Getting It? Matthew Vaughan Says He Edited Out Anti-Trump Bits From "Kingsmen" Sequel, Prioritizing Escapism and Audience Unity Over Divisive Political Statements

One of the worst accusations you can make about a Hollywood worker is that he might lean conservative. So I would not libel Matthew Vaughan like that.

I would note, though, that the first Kingsmen had a scene that was glorious in its edginess and willingness to offend partisans of the previous president.

He said that was just some lighthearted fun. And so it was.

In fairness, "Kingsmen" was more of a quasi-nihilist scream at all of the ruling elite, of both the stuffy conservative my-ancestors-signed-the-Magna-Carta stripe and the weird, controlling progressive we-shall-remake-the-world-in-our-perfect-godly-image type. It was really not political so much as it encoded that juvenile impulse towards rebellion and desecration of sacred cows. (And while that is a juvenile impulse, associated chiefly with the young, I will also insist it is often useful to exercise that juvenile impulse. Just because we change as we grow up doesn't mean that we had everything wrong when we were young, and it doesn't mean that older guys who are approaching 29 years old, such as myself, still can't find some sneaky teenage joy in juvenilia.)

So its politics, to the extent it had them, weren't conventional left-right but populist of any persuasion vs elite of any stripe, or youthful irreverence vs. mature stodginess.

Anyway, this guy, who I'm sure Believes All the Right Things That All the Right People Believe, shied away from turning his escapist popcorn fun into yet another divisive round of political virtue signalling.

Apparently the script called for Julianne Moore, playing a (wow, so novel) evil corporate CEO type, talking about her desire to host The Apprentice. Vaughan deleted that as possibly alienating to some of the audience.

And:

"We were building a White House Oval Office in the style of Trump Tower. We were making it in all gold and blinging it up. This was in May of 2016 and then I had an inkling. I remember saying to my American production designer, 'Trump might win, you know? Would this be as funny if Trump won?’'And he was like, 'Trump will never win.' And I said, 'You know what, I have a weird feeling he might. So let's build a normal Oval Office and scrap the Trump version.'"

Looking back, Vaughn knows he made the right decision, because "if you go too far -- if movies get political when they're meant to be fun -- then it weighs everything down a bit too much."

Damn right brother. There are movies with political themes and there should be -- but we should get political messages from movies which are expressly political, thematically political from start to finish, and which announce right in the trailers they're political movies. We don't need or want pointless and tasteless political snarks and jibes inserted into movies that have no connection to political themes, except some SJW screenwriter's insistence that we need at least three Trump jokes in a film Because I Just Can't Even With This Any More. #TheResistance!

That said, let's enjoy the subversive and to this day utterly shocking climatic sequence featuring a whispy half-black president with a voice both sonorous and somnmbulant but who is definitely not Obama, according to Vaughan, getting his totalitarian head exploded by a neural implant he agreed to have inserted into him to protect him from the mass human extermination event he agreed to fund and assist in.

By the way, I hear the film is so-so. Pretty good, but not nearly as good (or fresh) as the first one. I guess if you're on the fence but want to signal to Hollywood you want more of this sort of non-political stuff, maybe go see it?

Posted by: Ace at 01:51 PM

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1 I really love that he took out the Trump jokes!
#Winning

Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2017 01:52 PM (W+vEI)

2 About time a director figures out that hey, maybe my audience doesn't want a political suckerpunch in the middle of a movie - they want a break from all that for a few hours.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2017 01:53 PM (W+vEI)

3 Two things: First, the original Kingsman was very good - campy, but very good.

Second, Vaughn made the absolute right move here. I never understood why Hollywood types would purposely alienate half their audience.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2017 01:54 PM (zB8Dq)

4

I will not be seeing this trash film....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 28, 2017 01:55 PM (0mskG)

5 Vox is now saying these movies are 'not so secretly conservative'. Do tell!

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/9/25/16346588/
kingsman-movies-populist-right

Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2017 01:56 PM (W+vEI)

6 Both villains of the films, however - Sam Jackson and Julianne Moore are terrible people who are to the left of Bernie bros.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2017 01:56 PM (zB8Dq)

7 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2017 01:56 PM (wyNrR)

8 All I can say about Kingsman 2 is that after the movie, I wanted to drink a lot of bourbon.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 28, 2017 01:57 PM (wo3jg)

9 "Apparently the script called for Julianne Moore, playing a (wow, so novel) evil corporate CEO type, talking about her desire to host The Apprentice."

I liked her in Boogie Nights.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 28, 2017 01:58 PM (OD2ni)

10 Money talks, bullshit walks.

Posted by: ShainS at September 28, 2017 01:58 PM (/T+zE)

11 "if movies get political when they're meant to be fun -- then it weighs everything down a bit too much."

Clues - Catch Them All!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Tailgate Special! Follies & Fulminations 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at September 28, 2017 01:58 PM (hLRSq)

12 You're only young once.

But you can be immature forever.

Posted by: Sage advice at September 28, 2017 01:58 PM (u0s1P)

13 Why alienate a large percentage of your audience?Because they are unpeople.That is the general Hollywod feeling.And it is killing them.

Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2017 01:58 PM (rmVvL)

14 What's in your racist wallet?

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at September 28, 2017 01:59 PM (zB8Dq)

15
I didn't think the first movie was all that good. Too over the top. Maybe that's what it was supposed to be but it just bored me

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 28, 2017 01:59 PM (493sH)

16 >>>Because they are unpeople.That is the general Hollywod feeling.And it is killing them.

True. They don't care about the people, only the money that accompanies them.

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at September 28, 2017 01:59 PM (zB8Dq)

17 Saw it with the wife. We both liked it, but she saw a lot of anti-Americanism in it. All the bad guys are Americans. But there are good Americans in it too.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 28, 2017 02:00 PM (6n332)

18 "if you go too far -- if movies get political when they're meant to be fun -- then it weighs everything down a bit too much."
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The hell you say?!?!

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 28, 2017 02:00 PM (vg8iE)

19 Off, damned Pulp Fiction sock!

Posted by: Wy at September 28, 2017 02:00 PM (zB8Dq)

20 "Vox is now saying these movies are 'not so secretly conservative'. Do tell!"

Outrageous. Movies should never be political!!

Posted by: Oliver Stone at September 28, 2017 02:00 PM (OD2ni)

21 >>>Two things: First, the original Kingsman was very good - campy, but very good.

Second, Vaughn made the absolute right move here. I never understood why Hollywood types would purposely alienate half their audience.

...

I agree, but he did... blow Obama's head up in the last one.

Do I contradict myself? Then I contradict myself. I am large; I contain head explosions.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:00 PM (8rNrN)

22 Man pictured taking a knee during Taps at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

Thanks NFL fans who couldn't be bothered to stop watching last year when we warned you this would happen.

See what you've wrought on the rest of us? And that doesn't include making the rest of us pay for your hobby horse through taxes to build your weekend homes - NFL stadiums.

Posted by: All That Glitters at September 28, 2017 02:00 PM (TgqlD)

23 It seems like poor marketing target the Eurotrash.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:01 PM (LjR2k)

24 Probably will be seeing it. Manners maketh movie.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 28, 2017 02:01 PM (HtLSE)

25 I mean, even *I* was kinda like "YOU CAN'T SHOW A PRESIDENT GETTING HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF!!!" and I hated Obama's guts.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:01 PM (8rNrN)

26 As the great philosopher Michael Jordan said, "Republicans buy sneakers too."

Posted by: tu3031 at September 28, 2017 02:01 PM (O5Q3r)

27 Sam Jackson and Julianne Moore are terrible people who are to the left of Bernie bros.
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OUR wealth and status is OK. Yours is....questionable.

Posted by: Liberal, Inc. at September 28, 2017 02:01 PM (vg8iE)

28 I am large; I contain head explosions.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:00 PM (8rNrN)

Slick Willie: Just don't let those head explosions get on a dress or anything.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 28, 2017 02:02 PM (493sH)

29 >>>I mean, even *I* was kinda like "YOU CAN'T SHOW A PRESIDENT GETTING HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF!!!" and I hated Obama's guts.

Good point. I guess he certainly alienated a lot of people with that.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2017 02:02 PM (zB8Dq)

30 I didn't see it.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 28, 2017 02:02 PM (FnGOY)

31 22 He should be used for bayonet practice.

Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2017 02:02 PM (rmVvL)

32 "if movies get political when they're meant to be fun -- then it weighs everything down a bit too much."

My millikohn meter just broke. It's now reading negative 5,000 millikohns. Can that happen?

Posted by: WisRich at September 28, 2017 02:02 PM (G0vdT)

33 22 Man pictured taking a knee during Taps at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.
___________________________________

I wish the Captain of the Guard would have order him to stand or removed him.

The tomb is certainly not a site for political protest or irreverent behavior.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 28, 2017 02:02 PM (wo3jg)

34 Fine use of Pomp and Circumstance.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 28, 2017 02:02 PM (3DZIZ)

35 Man pictured taking a knee during Taps at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.
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I will refrain from comment. I couldn't come up with enough denunciations to prevent a banning.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 28, 2017 02:02 PM (vg8iE)

36 So you're saying he writes scripts for a paying audience?

Posted by: ryukyu at September 28, 2017 02:02 PM (12Vsr)

37 >>I mean, even *I* was kinda like "YOU CAN'T SHOW A PRESIDENT GETTING HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF!!!" and I hated Obama's guts.

Yeah, it was shocking. But after all that W assassination porn, I quickly got over it. That, and they kill off a lot of world leaders and royals. Obama is not singled out.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2017 02:03 PM (W+vEI)

38 >>>I didn't think the first movie was all that good. Too over the top. Maybe that's what it was supposed to be but it just bored me

I think it was too over the top -- but I liked it. I liked that it was kind of like a comic book in the sense that comic books are cheap to produce so you can do whatever you want. You don't have to make it accessible to everyone. You can narrowcast.

You don't see too many big Hollywood movies taking that sort of balls-out-who-cares-who-this-movie-is-for audience.

It was over the top, yeah, and juvenile, but I thought it was kinda exhilerating in how *free* it was.

The movie was Based.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:03 PM (8rNrN)

39 The NFL isn't taxed. Remedy that.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:04 PM (LjR2k)

40 This is the rare non-MCU hollywood movie I planned on seeing, just because I need a distraction.

Now I can enjoy it even more.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 28, 2017 02:04 PM (72PAC)

41 Hollywood

Meh

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2017 02:04 PM (M+MSn)

42 >>>Fine use of Pomp and Circumstance.

I always forget the name of that piece until someone reminds me, then I promptly forget again.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:04 PM (8rNrN)

43 I doubt I will ever see the Movie...

But, the Archerized Trailer / Commercial is awesome.

Posted by: garrett at September 28, 2017 02:04 PM (FtM8u)

44 Man pictured taking a knee during Taps at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

++

That doesn't even make sense

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 28, 2017 02:04 PM (FnGOY)

45 Was the movie Woke too?

Posted by: Boots at September 28, 2017 02:04 PM (EBwPV)

46

Julianne Moore is father left than Paltrow's Left Labia. I hope she gets incinerated...

I denounce myself for liking the first one, especially the mass-kill in the church. Mad skillzzz...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Provincial Revanchist at September 28, 2017 02:04 PM (t3kPl)

47 I will refrain from comment. I couldn't come up with enough denunciations to prevent a banning.

I too will refrain from comment, other than to observe that his groin at that height relative to the general swing height of a boot counts as a sorely missed opportunity.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 28, 2017 02:04 PM (HtLSE)

48 Man pictured taking a knee during Taps at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.
===

Fix, Bayonets!

Posted by: Ghosts of the Unknown Soldiers at September 28, 2017 02:05 PM (2wRtc)

49 As the great philosopher Michael Jordan said, "Republicans buy sneakers too."

Posted by: tu3031 at September 28, 2017 02:01 PM (O5Q3r)

We categorically denounce this "Jordan" person as a hater and all around icky person.

Posted by: ESPN - We're So Politically Correct at September 28, 2017 02:05 PM (hLRSq)

50 Hollywood is trying hard to make aleading man of Ildris Elba.Not really wirking.

Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2017 02:05 PM (rmVvL)

51 Kingsman was over the top in a good way, and the southern church brawl was amaze-balls.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2017 02:05 PM (zB8Dq)

52
Second, Vaughn made the absolute right move here. I never understood why Hollywood types would purposely alienate half their audience.

I wouldn't worry about it they'll keep watching

Posted by: Roger Goodell at September 28, 2017 02:05 PM (lKyWE)

53 >>>Yeah, it was shocking. But after all that W assassination porn, I quickly got over it. That, and they kill off a lot of world leaders and royals. Obama is not singled out.

true... but only one of the World Leaders isn't a Generic World Leader, but a specific one.

(Unless there were some look-alikes of Brit politicians that I didn't pick up on.)

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:05 PM (8rNrN)

54 The youthful demand from the 60s to question authority became "automatically defy authority" and then "once we are the authority, pretend we aren't and continue to complain about it"

but the actual questioning of authority that's not instantly turning to defying it for the sake of doing that, is actually useful.

Posted by: SB at September 28, 2017 02:05 PM (B3P4g)

55 I loved the first one...want to watch this one even though most reviews say its not as good.

Posted by: IC at September 28, 2017 02:05 PM (a0IVu)

56 Man pictured taking a knee during Taps at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

That doesn't even make sense

Look at me!!!!

Posted by: Man pictured taking a knee during Taps at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at September 28, 2017 02:06 PM (O5Q3r)

57 45 Was the movie Woke too?

Posted by: Boots at September 28, 2017 02:04 PM (EBwPV)

Huh...it was Money though and Savage.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 28, 2017 02:06 PM (rN46U)

58 I think it was too over the top -- but I liked it. I
liked that it was kind of like a comic book in the sense that comic
books are cheap to produce so you can do whatever you want. You don't
have to make it accessible to everyone. You can narrowcast.

You don't see too many big Hollywood movies taking that sort of balls-out-who-cares-who-this-movie-is-for audience.

It was over the top, yeah, and juvenile, but I thought it was kinda exhilerating in how *free* it was.

The movie was Based.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:03 PM (8rNrN)
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I think that is the shortest movie review Ace has ever written. But still TL

Posted by: Penfold at September 28, 2017 02:06 PM (Fbt5B)

59 >>Julianne Moore is father left than Paltrow's Left Labia.

Love me, Jeffrey!

Posted by: Maude Lebowski at September 28, 2017 02:06 PM (FtM8u)

60 I went to the earlier thread. Hillz is still overcoming Sonobi.
Could this be the beginning of the end?

Posted by: Diogenes at September 28, 2017 02:06 PM (M+MSn)

61 Fine use of Pomp and Circumstance.
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The band leaders at hours-long high school graduations refer to it as "Eternal Pomp".

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 28, 2017 02:06 PM (2wRtc)

62 >>>45 Was the movie Woke too?

maybe. It might have both been radical left (Woke) and radical right (Based).

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:06 PM (8rNrN)

63 >>>Hollywood is trying hard to make a leading man of Ildris Elba.Not really working.

Very good actor, but his best work was arguably The Wire.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2017 02:06 PM (zB8Dq)

64 Let's see if they keep all of that stuff out of the DVD release. I hope so.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 28, 2017 02:07 PM (cAnNx)

65 Kingsman was over the top in a good way, and the southern church brawl was amaze-balls.

+++

Could've done without the volcano

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 28, 2017 02:07 PM (FnGOY)

66 Based movie cannot be woke.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 28, 2017 02:07 PM (baYK5)

67 The first Kingsman also had a dig on Bush and Southern Evangelicals. Funny sad that The Southen Evangelical scene was not considered controversial. They seem to be fair game for both sides. Right Judge Moore?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 28, 2017 02:07 PM (N7KlP)

68 >>>Could've done without the volcano

Who are you, Tom Hanks?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2017 02:07 PM (zB8Dq)

69 A Hollywooder who respects his audience?!

wow

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at September 28, 2017 02:08 PM (hMwEB)

70 "Man pictured taking a knee during Taps at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier."

I wonder if any of these people even think.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Tailgate Special! Follies & Fulminations 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at September 28, 2017 02:08 PM (hLRSq)

71 Too many white people anyway.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 28, 2017 02:08 PM (baYK5)

72 Boke. Wased.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 28, 2017 02:08 PM (FnGOY)

73 I liked Idris Elba in Pacific Rim. If all the performances had been on his level, the human interest scenes would have been as good as the action.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 28, 2017 02:08 PM (HtLSE)

74 Based movie cannot be woke.
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I have no idea what this means.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 28, 2017 02:08 PM (2wRtc)

75 >>Who are you, Tom Hanks?

Fuck that guy in particular.

Posted by: Wilson at September 28, 2017 02:09 PM (FtM8u)

76 I wouldn't worry about it they'll keep watching
Posted by: Roger Goodell at September 28, 2017 02:05 PM (lKyWE)

I'm waiting for you.

Posted by: Zombie Pete Rozelle at September 28, 2017 02:09 PM (72PAC)

77 The new Star Wars has too much divershitty.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:09 PM (LjR2k)

78 ehh, I could have lived with a few jabs @ Trump. I just don't want it teabagged in my face for over an hour.

they could have kept the Apprentice joke. glad they dropped the TrumpTower shit though.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 28, 2017 02:09 PM (fSiAi)

79 Honestly, I believe this is one of those "you can't put the genie back in the bottle moments.

Anyone who leans left has felt free to express their distaste for people who don't agree with them. In Obamaland the prevailing feeling was that unmasking would be inconsequential. Through sheer maniacal control of the media, "star power", coercion and weaponizing the government, most who didn't agree would be forced, shamed or propagandized into submission.

What some people (Vaughan included) determined is their vocation was largely dependent on a relatively neutral view of anything political. That such a view would be destructive to the entertainment value, creativity and escapism the audience derived from your product. Ergo the first Kingsmen was actually eh, but watchable on an entertainment level.

By the way, "NFL, please pick up the white courtesy phone."

Posted by: Marcus T at September 28, 2017 02:10 PM (6fmef)

80 I haven't seen the picture. To be clear, was the guy kneeling in prayer or protest?

Wearing a Kaepernick jersey?

Raised fist?

Working with limited facts here. Still reeling from the denunciation tornado from the last thread.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 28, 2017 02:10 PM (wo3jg)

81 >>>Based movie cannot be woke.

Roger Ebert, who I don't think was a good movie reviewer, did make this point about the Dirty Harry franchise: You couldn't really say that they were "right wing" because the sequel, whose name escapes me (the one with David Soul as the vigilante cop), was "left wing."

He said something like "You can't say it has any coherent politics except that it's extreme in either direction."

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:10 PM (8rNrN)

82 Magnum Force. can't believe I couldn't remember that.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:10 PM (8rNrN)

83 There is a MO state senator named Chapelle-Nadal who called for Trump's assignation on FB.

Posted by: mnw at September 28, 2017 02:10 PM (4hI6R)

84 The Constitution clearly states you cannot blow up a president in a film.

Posted by: Chuck Todd at September 28, 2017 02:10 PM (zB8Dq)

85 Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:01 PM (8rNrN)

I should hope that a totalitarian who funded a mass human extermination would get his head blown off. Really, it's only right. That it was done by the thing he thought would save him is certainly poetic justice. Practically ancient Greek in the aptness of Nemesis' application.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 28, 2017 02:10 PM (rp9xB)

86

Based movie cannot be woke.==
I have no idea what this means.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 28, 2017 02:08 PM (2wRtc)

Because you're based and can't be woke

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 28, 2017 02:11 PM (lKyWE)

87 I mean, even *I* was kinda like "YOU CAN'T SHOW A PRESIDENT GETTING HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF!!!" and I hated Obama's guts.

I think Vaugh mitigated the shock factor pretty significantly (at least for me) by

1) turning the explosions into Candy-bright, Cake-frosting fireworks.

2) And pretty much every leader in the world got his/her head blown up. Not just Not-Obama.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 28, 2017 02:11 PM (NyJwR)

88 But the Constitution is a living document.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:11 PM (LjR2k)

89 Maybe this guy, maybe, has seen how p*issing off half the audience has led to box office poison and he's figuring the lefties might still watch AND the righties will have a little extra motivation to watch his movie.

Posted by: Boots at September 28, 2017 02:11 PM (EBwPV)

90 Because you're based and can't be woke
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I...denounce myself?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 28, 2017 02:11 PM (2wRtc)

91 >>The first Kingsman also had a dig on Bush and Southern Evangelicals. Funny sad that The Southen Evangelical scene was not considered controversial. They seem to be fair game for both sides.

yeah, it was all about upsetting applecarts and smashing everyone's icons.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:12 PM (8rNrN)

92 Magnum Force has probably the best theme of a Dirty Harry movie by far. Lalo Schifrin kickin' ass.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 28, 2017 02:12 PM (HtLSE)

93
Roger Ebert, who I don't think was a good movie reviewer, did make this point about the Dirty Harry franchise: You couldn't really say that they were "right wing" because the sequel, whose name escapes me (the one with David Soul as the vigilante cop), was "left wing."

Magnum Force

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 28, 2017 02:12 PM (lKyWE)

94 When I watched it, I thought it would be fun to watch in the theater with a 1/8 of boomers.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 28, 2017 02:12 PM (XFue2)

95 25 I mean, even *I* was kinda like "YOU CAN'T SHOW A PRESIDENT GETTING HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF!!!" and I hated Obama's guts.

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that was the best part

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at September 28, 2017 02:12 PM (hMwEB)

96 The Constitution clearly states you cannot blow up a DEMOCRAT president in a film**

** edited for accuracy

Posted by: fios at September 28, 2017 02:12 PM (RzUqr)

97 Are there any movies out that don't suck?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:13 PM (LjR2k)

98
One of the best and worst features of streaming is 'they' know what I am watching, what I turned on and abandoned after a few minutes, what I watched until the end. You now have Neilsen ratings which is... just how representative the hell are they actually... sort of like poll numbers?

Now you have these streaming services that *actually* know what people are watching, probably want to watch more of in the future. If they follow a market driven philosophy a lot of bullshit fringe element stuff is going to no longer get produced. Because people just don't care.

I'm hopeful. The 'old' way just wasn't cutting it with me.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 28, 2017 02:13 PM (EgwCt)

99 I was once woke up at a base, but that was after passing out during a drunken softball game.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2017 02:13 PM (zB8Dq)

100 I wouldn't worry about it they'll keep watching
Posted by: Roger Goodell at September 28, 2017 02:05 PM (lKyWE)

-------------------------------------

Yeah, you gotta figure from their drug dealer perspective they are completely confused.

"Our drug addicts never turn us down. We'll just wait it out till they start going through the shakes and then we'll charge them even more."

I read the New England Turncoats actually charged $4.50 for a cup of tap water last weekend when they ran out of $4.50 bottled water.

Posted by: All That Glitters at September 28, 2017 02:13 PM (TgqlD)

101 >>>Are there any movies out that don't suck?

BATMAN V SUPERMAN!!!

Posted by: Zach Snyder at September 28, 2017 02:14 PM (zB8Dq)

102 Well,the Left did those ads in the UK with climate change deniers heads exploding.

Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2017 02:14 PM (rmVvL)

103 "82 Magnum Force. can't believe I couldn't remember that.

Posted by: ace"

I liked the horny Asian chick that was Harry's neighbor. Poor Harry got cock blocked by Hal Holbrock.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 28, 2017 02:14 PM (OD2ni)

104 mother!

Posted by: J Law at September 28, 2017 02:14 PM (2wRtc)

105 Co workers were talking about SNL today.

One of them said something like, "It isn't funny because ALL it does is make fun of Trump and that gets old".

Posted by: 18-1 at September 28, 2017 02:14 PM (eSx+E)

106 >>>Magnum Force has probably the best theme of a Dirty Harry movie by far. Lalo Schifrin kickin' ass.

I just saw it again. The plot is tight and Harry does actual police work. Also, the evidence he collects (the slug from David Soul's gun) is *suggestive,* but not conclusive, fueling his suspicions but not confirming them.

There's some actual dramatic scenes. Not high drama, but just people talking, arguing. And he's not always being Based. Like, when his superiors give him an order, he indicates his displeasure, but he doesn't openly contradict them. (Mostly.)

You don't see that often in movies now. Everything's so Pushed to 11. No reality.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:15 PM (8rNrN)

107 It will not help this guy in the long run though. He will be branded as a full throated conservative due to his refusal to harry his fucking viewers every step of the way.

The libs love to recreate A Man for All Seasons- anything less than a complete and utter vocal approval for everything they do is seen as complete disapproval- and therefore the malcontents must be dealt with.

Amazing how history repeats itself, no? It is like people are still people no matter what and all our technology just changes what we argue about.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 28, 2017 02:15 PM (ycWCI)

108 I like Julianna Moore. Well, I saw her in something once and now I like it when porn stars remind me of her twenty years ago.

Same thing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 28, 2017 02:15 PM (rjrh3)

109 'BASE - How low can you go?

Posted by: Chuck D at September 28, 2017 02:15 PM (FtM8u)

110 OT - so what is going to happen at tonights NFL game? Will the Packer fans actually link arms and disrespect the flag or will they roundly boo the idiots on the field?

Posted by: IC at September 28, 2017 02:15 PM (a0IVu)

111 Here... hold my denunciation for me and watch this...

Posted by: andycanuck at September 28, 2017 02:16 PM (mJ8mX)

112 Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 28, 2017 02:13 PM (EgwCt)

I agree to an extent. But with producers, directors and all movie people so overwhelmingly liberal, the junk is still going to be produced.

For a lot of them, even the higher ups, it probably has to do with getting pat on the back approval from the cocktail crowd as well.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 28, 2017 02:16 PM (72PAC)

113 Now there's a novel idea: in order to make more money, don't alienate a significant portion of your potential audience! It's a BRILLIANT insight!

(Baby steps, Hollywood. Baby steps.)

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at September 28, 2017 02:16 PM (RD7QR)

114 "92 Magnum Force has probably the best theme of a Dirty Harry movie by far. Lalo Schifrin kickin' ass.

Posted by: Sporkatus"

Enter The Dragon was on the other night. The Lalo Schiffrin sound is unmistakeable.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 28, 2017 02:16 PM (OD2ni)

115 >>>getting his totalitarian head exploded by a neural implant he agreed to have inserted into him to protect him from the mass human extermination event he agreed to fund and assist in.

*holds up signs*

6.7 6.2

Posted by: Tom Savini and David Cronenberg at September 28, 2017 02:16 PM (/qEW2)

116 They should repeal the D Cell ban at football games.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:16 PM (LjR2k)

117 BATMAN V SUPERMAN!!!
***
In fairness that was one of the few recent movies to NOT have some weird lefty message.

I guess the message was....trust Space Jesus and don't stab him with your krptonite spear? Also, Israeli girls in gladiator outfits are cool.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 28, 2017 02:16 PM (eSx+E)

118 Interesting that he had a premonition about the Trump win. Otherwise I'd have thought dismal box office numbers influenced his decision.

Posted by: kallisto at September 28, 2017 02:17 PM (eO2Z0)

119 OT - so what is going to happen at tonights NFL game? Will the Packer fans actually link arms and disrespect the flag or will they roundly boo the idiots on the field?

Would love to see the fans quietly walk out of the stands and leave the stadium.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2017 02:17 PM (wyNrR)

120 104 mother!
Posted by: J Law at September 28, 2017 02:14 PM (2wRtc)

Tell your children not to walk my way
Tell your children not to hear my words
what they mean, what they say
Mother!

Posted by: Glen Danzig at September 28, 2017 02:17 PM (XFue2)

121 Dat one WOKE muthafukka for a directa.....

Posted by: Sponge at September 28, 2017 02:17 PM (xttKs)

122 >>>OT - so what is going to happen at tonights NFL game? Will the Packer fans actually link arms and disrespect the flag or will they roundly boo the idiots on the field?

Hoping for the best, but expecting the worst. Packers fans are sheep, especially around their asshole QB, who snarked about the protests on social media this week.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2017 02:17 PM (zB8Dq)

123 Wasn't first or last time Barry had his head blown.

Posted by: Reggie at September 28, 2017 02:17 PM (bc2Lc)

124 The thing about Magnum Force is that Harry probably would have gladly joined if they didn't kill a clean cop.

Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2017 02:17 PM (rmVvL)

125 97 Are there any movies out that don't suck?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:13 PM (LjR2k)

Oral Sorority Vol 1 - 7 actually suck a great deal...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Provincial Revanchist at September 28, 2017 02:17 PM (t3kPl)

126 There is a MO state senator named Chapelle-Nadal who called for Trump's assignation on FB.

Posted by: mnw at September 28, 2017 02:10 PM (4hI6R)

She wanted a secret hook up with him?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 28, 2017 02:18 PM (493sH)

127 I do like the actor , Mark Strong . He plays a good bad guy in his movies.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 28, 2017 02:18 PM (N7KlP)

128 >>Tell your children not to walk my way
Tell your children not to hear my words
what they mean, what they say
Mother!

DANZIG!!!!

F'n Right On

Posted by: garrett at September 28, 2017 02:18 PM (FtM8u)

129 BASE - How low can you go?

Posted by: Chuck D at September 28, 2017 02:15 PM (FtM8u)

Death Row, whut a bruvva no.....

Posted by: Sponge at September 28, 2017 02:18 PM (xttKs)

130 Well,the Left did those ads in the UK with climate change deniers heads exploding.

YOUR HEAD A SPLODE

Posted by: Strong Bad at September 28, 2017 02:18 PM (u0s1P)

131 FOX News discovered an under-served niche market-- half the American people.

Posted by: mnw at September 28, 2017 02:18 PM (4hI6R)

132 "117 BATMAN V SUPERMAN!!!
***
In fairness that was one of the few recent movies to NOT have some weird lefty message."

I did like that they draped the coffin with an American flag.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 28, 2017 02:19 PM (OD2ni)

133 this has nothing to do with anything, but liked batman v Superman more than Wonder Woman movie - it seemed..silly.

Posted by: runner at September 28, 2017 02:19 PM (QC/4S)

134 110: packer fans are like sheep. aaron rodgers is their shepherd. what do you think? i'm 40 minutes west of green bay. i know what will happen. i hope i'm wrong. i won't be watching, my wife can inform me what those demented circus monkeys are doing.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 28, 2017 02:19 PM (KP5rU)

135 Slightly O/T but I saw a trailer in FB for a comedy about the death of Stalin that looks like it might have potential. Steve Buscemi and a bunch of others are in it.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at September 28, 2017 02:19 PM (87qIa)

136 She wanted a secret hook up with him?

Maybe she's into hate-sex?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 28, 2017 02:19 PM (IcT7t)

137 Saw it. Mostly fun movie. Dragged a bit towards the end.

Thought even the different bad guys had some justifiable moments, even if they were wrong.

Posted by: NJRob at September 28, 2017 02:19 PM (hkj67)

138 what I like in Magnum Force is that Harry has suspicions and theories, but he's not *convinced* of them until the Vigilante Four confirm it.

Like, he's a normal human being with imperfect and limited information, and is sometimes unsure of the truth.

In today's movies, most of the time, the hero has NO IDEA of who the villain is, then there is a HUGE DRAMATIC REVELATION, and then he is completely certain of the villain. He goes from perfect ignorance to perfect conviction.

I like it so much that we see Harry Callahan first having these crazy ideas about what's going on, then doing some police work that suggests maybe the crazy idea is right but still he's not sure, and then only later finding out his crazy idea was right.

Again: like a normal, reasonably-intelligent person would proceed from hypothesis to conviction in real life.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:19 PM (8rNrN)

139 122 I expect a clear split with some doing it and some booing loudly.Maybe fights breaking out.

Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2017 02:19 PM (rmVvL)

140 You don't see that often in movies now. Everything's so Pushed to 11. No reality.

Even when MF is pushing things to 11, it does it in a plausible way. It's like... they're at the docks, and there are two fleet carriers in drydock for scrapping. Motorcycles getting driven on them happens organically, and fleet carriers being scrapped was actually happening - which is where those two came from in the first place. Scrappers.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 28, 2017 02:19 PM (HtLSE)

141 >>Are there any movies out that don't suck?

Try the Handjob Honies Sereis.

Posted by: garrett at September 28, 2017 02:19 PM (FtM8u)

142
33 22 Man pictured taking a knee during Taps at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.
___________________________________

I wish the Captain of the Guard would have order him to stand or removed him.

The tomb is certainly not a site for political protest or irreverent behavior.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 28, 2017 02:02 PM (wo3jg)

Or at the very least, another onlooker sidling over and standing in front of the kneeler with his ass in the guy's face.

And rip a huge one.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 28, 2017 02:19 PM (iFZVz)

143 the movie that is, seemed silly

Posted by: runner at September 28, 2017 02:19 PM (QC/4S)

144 So, I've never even heard of this movie or the original one and the last movie I'd go to would be one starring Juilanne Moore and Samuel Jackson. Or Sean Penn, or George Clooney, or Jane Fonda, or Matt Damon, or Ben Affleck, or..................

Posted by: All That Glitters at September 28, 2017 02:20 PM (TgqlD)

145 https://youtu.be/e0d553Ms228

It's not often that it's on topic to post a Danzig / Shakira mashup.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 28, 2017 02:20 PM (rjrh3)

146 Dirty Harry was more of a Libertarian...... with a .44 Magnum.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 28, 2017 02:21 PM (QM5S2)

147 >>Now there's a novel idea: in order to make more money, don't alienate a
significant portion of your potential audience! It's a BRILLIANT
insight!

HOWEVER, they also get the opposite message of: in order to win oscars, emmys and golden globes, go Left *hard*; seize the latest social issue and portray it as the most sympathetic, normal way to be.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2017 02:21 PM (W+vEI)

148 Get me this Matthew Vaughn on the phone! He can help with my new picture!

Posted by: Norma Desmond at September 28, 2017 02:21 PM (ismre)

149 >>I like it so much that we see Harry Callahan first having these crazy ideas about what's going on, then doing some police work that suggests maybe the crazy idea is right but still he's not sure, and then only later finding out his crazy idea was right.

That's when I realized...

the fucking drill was in Reverse!

Posted by: Custom Shelves by Harry Callahan at September 28, 2017 02:21 PM (FtM8u)

150 "Like, he's a normal human being with imperfect and limited information, and is sometimes unsure of the truth."

Good point. Borrowing David Soul's gun after the competition so he could retrieve the bullet later was a very subtle move.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 28, 2017 02:21 PM (OD2ni)

151 >>>I do like the actor , Mark Strong . He plays a good bad guy in his movies.

yeah usually. I like it too when he occasionally gets the good guy role, and he's really good in it.

I like when good actors are given the shot to break out of their typecasted role.

Miguel Ferarra -- the junior exec from RoboCop -- said he had been typecast as the Young Street Punk and only got roles wearing a leather jacket and being a thug. Then he got put into a suit in RoboCop, and said "Now I'm only being offered roles where I wear a suit."

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:21 PM (8rNrN)

152 it's like they don't make movies for the American market anymore - why bother if china will pick up the slack, why bother if china will pick up the tab, finance it all. come to think of it, mission impossible - that is not too heavy on political and SJW crap, it is ?

Posted by: runner at September 28, 2017 02:22 PM (QC/4S)

153 OT , anyone else see La La Land? I thought it was better than average but the ending definitely is a downer. Was that just me ?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 28, 2017 02:22 PM (N7KlP)

154 I mean, even *I* was kinda like "YOU CAN'T SHOW A PRESIDENT GETTING HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF!!!" and I hated Obama's guts.

Posted by: ace

Vince Flynn kind of gets near that territory in Term Limits and a few other books. The President isn't a god-emperor like Caeser. After the past several years, I wish there were some Mitch Rapp/Scott Coleman type figure who could act as a deus ex machina.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 28, 2017 02:22 PM (/qEW2)

155 OT - so what is going to happen at tonights NFL game?

Everybody will tune in to see what the Packers will do and then lots will opt out, and the networks will say "Biggest audience ever Protests against kneeling FB players not effective,"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 28, 2017 02:22 PM (iVOAv)

156 Called up siriusxm yesterday and removed nfl from my service - I was not the only one, apparently they've been busy over there.

At first the only way to get nfl off my radio AND off my streaming service was to go to a Music Only package. I said no, I want some of the other non-music channels, just not nfl. If you can't do that then just cancel the whole thing.

They found a way, hahaha, and I'm also saving over a hundred dollars over the next 12 months.

Thanks NFL!!!

Posted by: Boots at September 28, 2017 02:22 PM (EBwPV)

157 So, I've never even heard of this movie or the original one and the last movie I'd go to would be one starring Juilanne Moore and Samuel Jackson. Or Sean Penn, or George Clooney, or Jane Fonda, or Matt Damon, or Ben Affleck, or..................

Posted by: All That Glitters at September 28, 2017 02:20 PM (TgqlD)

This......

I ain't goin to no movie staring racist, America hating assholes such as the ones listed.....

Posted by: Sponge at September 28, 2017 02:22 PM (xttKs)

158 BTW, is M Night Shlayman (sp?) a conservative or something?

I saw his latest movie Split and

MINOR SPOILERS

One of the villain's evil personalities is a woman...in a man's body. And it is a man...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 28, 2017 02:22 PM (eSx+E)

159 >>>I like when good actors are given the shot to break out of their typecasted role.

It's why I liked Denzel in Training Day.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2017 02:22 PM (zB8Dq)

160 I don't think that was a srapyard,it was the reserve fleet.Sure they would eventually be scrapped.

Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2017 02:22 PM (rmVvL)

161 I like it so much that we see Harry Callahan first having these crazy ideas about what's going on, then doing some police work that suggests maybe the crazy idea is right but still he's not sure, and then only later finding out his crazy idea was right.

He tests out some other possibilities first, has a revelation moment... but immediately doubts it. He has to be sure.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 28, 2017 02:22 PM (HtLSE)

162 Saw Kingsman2, liked it a lot. Appealed to the jr-high-school young 'ron in me.

But WOW did they get Kentucky wrong !! John Denver isn't Country Music !!

Yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikes

Hard to take any 'satire' seriously when that one's so far off the mark..

Posted by: Aunt Ralph at September 28, 2017 02:23 PM (6VG2o)

163 For the first Kingsman movie when Colin Firth told the kid that Manners maketh the man. I was really hoping it would be a your chav twat ways are stupid and there is a better way. Make something more of yourself direction it would take. There was an episode of the TV show the Avengers "The Correct Way to Kill" about these ever so polite and very well mannered assassins. I was hoping it would go more of that way, but I think that kind of British humor is dead

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 28, 2017 02:23 PM (493sH)

164 >>>Good point. Borrowing David Soul's gun after the competition so he could retrieve the bullet later was a very subtle move.

I also loved that Harry misses his final shot on purpose, to have an excuse to try out Soul's gun, which the then fires into soft wood to preserve the bullet.

So like: Harry won. But he doesn't care about winning a dumb shooting competition. He's a detective on a case.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:23 PM (8rNrN)

165 110 . The fans will rush the field and join the ponces in the chorus line. Copious high kicking to follow. Aaron Rodgers' jockstrap springs free of his tighties and hilarity ensues. Much unity is had by all, or as is said in Swaziland- UMOJA

Posted by: kallisto . at September 28, 2017 02:23 PM (eO2Z0)

166 >>>It's why I liked Denzel in Training Day.

yeah it was good to see him out of his Nice Guy comfort zone.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:24 PM (8rNrN)

167 Pic and article about the guy kneeling at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier...

http://tinyurl.com/ybqz2wly

Posted by: Tami at September 28, 2017 02:25 PM (Enq6K)

168 >>He tests out some other possibilities first, has a revelation moment... but immediately doubts it. He has to be sure.

Well, it's a Drill Bit you know?

You'd think it should just bore right through sheetrock or plaster...right?

But, maybe this was just some Super-Duper Sheetrock or something??

...I just didn't know what to think.

Posted by: Custom Shelves by Harry Callahan at September 28, 2017 02:25 PM (FtM8u)

169 I didn't see the original movie. What happened in the Southern Evangelical Church? Did they gets their heads blown off too or just your normal Evangelical church where theres a riot among members?/sarc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 28, 2017 02:25 PM (iVOAv)

170 155; this x 10000. we are being scammed. i refuse to participate in this charade tonite. aaron can get the sand out of his mangina without my help.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 28, 2017 02:25 PM (KP5rU)

171 I don't think that was a srapyard,it was the reserve fleet.Sure they would eventually be scrapped.

Nope, they were actually mothballed in line for scrapping. So much so that it remains uncertain to this day exactly which two fleet carriers they were.

I did a lot of reading on it, because I was curious. They have some good ideas, and some ideas of which scrapping yards they got shuffled from, but some uncertainty remains.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 28, 2017 02:25 PM (HtLSE)

172 The fans will rush the field and join the ponces in the chorus line. Copious high kicking to follow. Aaron Rodgers' jockstrap springs free of his tighties and hilarity ensues. Much unity is had by all, or as is said in Swaziland- UMOJA

Posted by: kallisto . at September 28, 2017 02:23 PM (eO2Z0)

Is that before or after Rodgers blows every guy at Lambeau?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 28, 2017 02:25 PM (493sH)

173 yeah it was good to see him out of his Nice Guy comfort zone.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:24 PM (8rNrN)

And it was once said that Jason Alexander was the most diverse actor ever.

Posted by: Sponge at September 28, 2017 02:26 PM (xttKs)

174 145 https://youtu.be/e0d553Ms228

It's not often that it's on topic to post a Danzig / Shakira mashup.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 28, 2017 02:20 PM (rjrh3)

LOL!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 28, 2017 02:26 PM (XFue2)

175 "sonorous and somnmbulant"

Oh ffs, there he goes with his words and stuff.

Posted by: dananjcon at September 28, 2017 02:26 PM (WLK0w)

176 Death of Stalin trailer thusly...
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/276454/

Posted by: andycanuck at September 28, 2017 02:26 PM (mJ8mX)

177
166 >>>It's why I liked Denzel in Training Day.

yeah it was good to see him out of his Nice Guy comfort zone.
==========================

Denzel in "Man On Fire". What a performance!

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 28, 2017 02:26 PM (ylUqT)

178 Packers will lock arms and all call out "Red Rover, Red Rover, let Trubisky come over!"

Posted by: Roy at September 28, 2017 02:26 PM (7n4KQ)

179 Pic and article about the guy kneeling at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier...

==

should have removed him pronto

Posted by: runner at September 28, 2017 02:26 PM (QC/4S)

180 >>>I didn't see the original movie. What happened in the Southern Evangelical Church? Did they gets their heads blown off too or just your normal Evangelical church where theres a riot among members?/sarc.

Massive fight, but no explosions.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 28, 2017 02:26 PM (zB8Dq)

181 Man pictured taking a knee during Taps at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

I've seen this headline, but does anyone know if he was "taking a knee" ala the NFL twats, or taking a knee as in genuine respect? Because it could be either.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at September 28, 2017 02:27 PM (4df7R)

182 Well actually if there were "diverse" (!!!) political messages in movies, that would be better than the agitprop idiocy that has blackened Hollywood's reputation. But no politics, of course, is an even better % bet.

But unless it's free, and I'm stuck in an airliner seat on a trans-Pacific flight, or somewhere else with no option, still not gonna watch any of it. Just personal taste.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2017 02:27 PM (NDlpU)

183 Danzig was the black guy in Training Day?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 28, 2017 02:27 PM (rjrh3)

184 >>It's not often that it's on topic to post a Danzig / Shakira mashup.

I think Trump should Knight Glenn Danzig.

That would really throw a wrench in the News Cycle.

Posted by: garrett at September 28, 2017 02:27 PM (FtM8u)

185 Posted by: Boots at September 28, 2017 02:22 PM (EBwPV)

-----------------------------

Good for you! Another one liberated from the NFL.

It's the only chance for the actual sport of football - sans the NFL - to survive long term.

Posted by: All That Glitters at September 28, 2017 02:27 PM (TgqlD)

186 @181 no, it could not. pretty strategy forward what he was doing

Posted by: runner at September 28, 2017 02:27 PM (QC/4S)

187 There is no courage in denouncing acid reflux.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:28 PM (LjR2k)

188 172: he doesn't have enough ambition to get past jordy.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 28, 2017 02:28 PM (KP5rU)

189 I've seen this headline, but does anyone know if he was "taking a knee" ala the NFL twats, or taking a knee as in genuine respect? Because it could be either.

A fact which, in the scheme of things, makes the whole NFL virtue-signaling shit look pretty silly.

Posted by: Roy at September 28, 2017 02:28 PM (7n4KQ)

190 >>>hat happened in the Southern Evangelical Church? Did they gets their heads blown off too or just your normal Evangelical church where theres a riot among members?/sarc.

The mass extermination plan was to send an audio signal that stimulated the brain into psychotic murder mode. The Church was used as a demo area/test run.
The congregation was depicted as you'd imagine -- racist, homophobic, stupid, etc.

But the murders and stuff happened only because the bad guy used them to test his Psychotic Reaction neurowave. They all went crazy and started killing each other. So did the hero (Colin Firth) -- so it's not like they were just susceptible to it. It works on everyone.

That said, the whole thing was intended for people who hate Southern Christians to get off on seeing them all getting killed.

But that aside -- it was a frenetic, potent bit of hyperviolence that made sense in the movie's reality.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:28 PM (8rNrN)

191 I agree to an extent. But with producers, directors and all movie people so overwhelmingly liberal, the junk is still going to be produced.

For a lot of them, even the higher ups, it probably has to do with getting pat on the back approval from the cocktail crowd as well.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 28, 2017 02:16 PM (72PAC)

Maybe, maybe not. The power of persuasion when dollars are involved and the streamer services say, 'Oh shit, we have the actual numbers for this genre, and nobody wants to watch that stuff. I'll give you 1/100th of a cent per view'.

We're talking renumeration levels around grocery store coupons.

It might just invite the next sentence, 'What do they want to see? What should I stay away from?'

Anyway, I have a dream.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 28, 2017 02:28 PM (EgwCt)

192 OT - so what is going to happen at tonights NFL game?
===

Rebellious Shitty Perma-Babies vs Adult Humans

Round 122

*ding*

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 28, 2017 02:28 PM (2wRtc)

193 I've seen this headline, but does anyone know if he was "taking a knee" ala the NFL twats, or taking a knee as in genuine respect? Because it could be either.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at September 28, 2017 02:27 PM (4df7R)

Yeah, don't know and according to the article they were asking if anyone that was there knew. No one else is kneeling though but who knows....it's a second in time, hard to discern his intent from that.

Posted by: Tami at September 28, 2017 02:29 PM (Enq6K)

194
I liked the horny Asian chick that was Harry's neighbor. Poor Harry got cock blocked by Hal Holbrock.

Posted by: Benji Carver
____________________

Hal Holbrook has a place just down the road a piece from me. Dixie Carter's old home place.

Posted by: Kudzu King at September 28, 2017 02:29 PM (ZFEAw)

195 >>>183 Danzig was the black guy in Training Day?

He really showed his range there, I think.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:29 PM (8rNrN)

196 108
I like Julianna Moore. Well, I saw her in something once and now I like it when porn stars remind me of her twenty years ago.

Same thing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College
Football - Forever at September 28, 2017 02:15 PM (rjrh3)
--------------------------------

Bright red pubes are shocking, even closely trimmed.

Posted by: Javems at September 28, 2017 02:29 PM (yOqwj)

197 158 BTW, is M Night Shlayman (sp?) a conservative or something?

I saw his latest movie Split and

MINOR SPOILERS

One of the villain's evil personalities is a woman...in a man's body. And it is a man...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 28, 2017 02:22 PM (eSx+E)

Id say he is a traditionalist. Unbreakable is one of the most pro father movies Hollywood had put out in decades.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 28, 2017 02:29 PM (XFue2)

198 At least Troy Aikman did his kneeling in private.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:29 PM (LjR2k)

199 I didn't see the original movie. What happened in the Southern
Evangelical Church? Did they gets their heads blown off too or just your
normal Evangelical church where theres a riot among members?

The church group was, I believe, supposed to evoke similarities to the Westboro Baptists in that they were pretty clearly a hate group, moreso than a true congregation (though it took place in an actual church setting).

Anyway. Huge fight driven by inhibition lowering Maguffin. Everyone dies.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at September 28, 2017 02:30 PM (4df7R)

200 There is no courage in denouncing acid reflux.
==

For all its faults, acid reflux has made a lot of money for the pharmaceutical industry.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 28, 2017 02:30 PM (2wRtc)

201 Danzig was the black guy in Training Day?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 28, 2017 02:27 PM (rjrh3)

Yeah, he later changed his name to Gdansk

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 28, 2017 02:30 PM (493sH)

202 I ain't watching that shit.
Lead a protest up Lombardi Avenue, if you want to.
Hell, crawl into the locker room carrying a giant cross. I don't care.
But suit up and shut up.
Play the damn game and spare me the fake-ass, virtue signaling, look-at-me bullshit.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 28, 2017 02:30 PM (QM5S2)

203 Huh, kinda wondered which carrier that was in the Dirty Harry flick. Well a large part of the mothball fleet was at Vallejo, and back then some scrapping was still going on at east bay shipyards, maybe, so either makes sense.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2017 02:30 PM (NDlpU)

204 I'd take a knee, but my girlfriend is an Army Ranger...

Posted by: Man Ti Teo at September 28, 2017 02:30 PM (FtM8u)

205 In case you're thinking that makes the movie "left wing"--

well, the mass extermination plot is hatched by a tech billionaire and environmental zealot who wants to kill off 95% of the world's population and only leave "The Elite" 5% alive. So they won't hurt Mother Gaia any more.

Politically, it's just all the fuck over the map.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:31 PM (8rNrN)

206 Watch interviews of Shamalamadingdong where he complains that his box office flops are really good but Americans don't get them.

Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2017 02:31 PM (rmVvL)

207 201 Danzig was the black guy in Training Day?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 28, 2017 02:27 PM (rjrh3)

Yeah, he later changed his name to Gdansk
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 28, 2017 02:30 PM (493sH)

He wanted to sound more American.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 28, 2017 02:31 PM (NWiLs)

208 Also, Danzig / Shakira mashup is hysterical.

Posted by: garrett at September 28, 2017 02:31 PM (FtM8u)

209 Black actors are always type cast as the black guy in movies.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:31 PM (LjR2k)

210 117 BATMAN V SUPERMAN!!!
***
In fairness that was one of the few recent movies to NOT have some weird lefty message.

I guess the message was....trust Space Jesus and don't stab him with your krptonite spear? Also, Israeli girls in gladiator outfits are cool.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 28, 2017 02:16 PM (eSx+E)

The message was clear.

MMMMMMAAAAARRRTTTTHHHHHAAAAAA!!!!

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 28, 2017 02:31 PM (72PAC)

211 John Wick.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 28, 2017 02:32 PM (2wRtc)

212 Black actors are always type cast as the black guy in movies.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:31 PM (LjR2k)

Al Jolson: Not in my day

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 28, 2017 02:32 PM (493sH)

213
Yeah, don't know and according to the article
they were asking if anyone that was there knew. No one else is kneeling
though but who knows....it's a second in time, hard to discern his
intent from that.

Posted by: Tami at September 28, 2017 02:29 PM (Enq6K)

That's what I think, too. I mean, i can't speak for the man in question, but I know if I wanted to turn the whole "take a knee" thing on its head show the NFL brats what it really means, I'd want to do something like kneel in respect during "Taps" at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

But that's me. If it's some woke leftist, who the hell knows what craziness is in his loony brain?

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at September 28, 2017 02:32 PM (4df7R)

214 Kingsman? All I remember is the Swedish Princess.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 28, 2017 02:33 PM (ylUqT)

215 >>But that aside -- it was a frenetic, potent bit of hyperviolence that made sense in the movie's reality.

...while the fast part of "Free Bird" is playing in the background. That was an unexpected song choice that worked.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2017 02:33 PM (W+vEI)

216 Huh, kinda wondered which carrier that was in the Dirty Harry flick. Well a large part of the mothball fleet was at Vallejo, and back then some scrapping was still going on at east bay shipyards, maybe, so either makes sense.

IMDB and lore have it as being the Rabaul and the Bing-Ding (Badoeng Strait), but some people have raised questions about the timing/location.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 28, 2017 02:34 PM (HtLSE)

217 206 Watch interviews of Shamalamadingdong where he complains that his box office flops are really good but Americans don't get them.
Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2017 02:31 PM (rmVvL)

They are to be watched many times to get them so people usually wait until they come out on dvd to buy them.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 28, 2017 02:34 PM (XFue2)

218 211
John Wick.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 28, 2017 02:32 PM (2wRtc)

Best movie of the last 5 years at least. Maybe longer.

As they say on Twitter, don't @ me.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at September 28, 2017 02:34 PM (4df7R)

219 Training Day.

Full frontal Eva Mendes.

Posted by: blaster at September 28, 2017 02:34 PM (x7Xk5)

220 Packers will lock arms and all call out "Red Rover, Red Rover, let Trubisky come over!"

Posted by: Roy

I thought "Red Rover" was from those stupid YA "Three Investigator" books - I never realized it was an actual game.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 28, 2017 02:34 PM (/qEW2)

221 The congregation was depicted as you'd imagine -- racist, homophobic, stupid, etc.
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So. Republican voters.

Posted by: BortTP at September 28, 2017 02:34 PM (mJ8mX)

222 205 In case you're thinking that makes the movie "left wing"--

well, the mass extermination plot is hatched by a tech billionaire and environmental zealot who wants to kill off 95% of the world's population and only leave "The Elite" 5% alive. So they won't hurt Mother Gaia any more.

Politically, it's just all the fuck over the map.
Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:31 PM (8rNrN)

He seemed to be intent on just skewering everyone. The Church scene seemed heavy handed to me, but in the context of the rest of the movie (the aforementioned head bursting scene of the supposed elites, etc) it felt of a piece.

There was no real group that he portrayed as 'good' or being 'with it'- not even the hero's age group or family. Quite the contrary.

His point, if he even had one, is that people are a mess.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 28, 2017 02:34 PM (ycWCI)

223 this is reminding me of Southpark last night, making fun of antifa statue tearing downing...libs online last night thought "finally, SP is showing how we're right"...

duh no.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 28, 2017 02:35 PM (XhN8Z)

224 Speaking of Training Day , I'm surprised I've not seen any snark when we are discussing government issued Chinese menu warrants .

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 28, 2017 02:35 PM (N7KlP)

225 >>>I thought "Red Rover" was from those stupid YA "Three Investigator" books - I never realized it was an actual game.

STUPID?!?!!

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:35 PM (8rNrN)

226 Huh? A spoof-like movie on the death of Stalin? OK.

Just happen to be in the middle of a good book on Koba and his henchmen, and a humorous twist on these events is, let's say, "creative", and something I'd never think of.

Of course, getting a decent historical movie done even half-well on any serious subject is far beyond the imaginations of the talentless sequel machines, so this may be a "high point" of sorts.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2017 02:35 PM (NDlpU)

227
I thought "Red Rover" was from those stupid YA "Three Investigator" books - I never realized it was an actual game.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 28, 2017 02:34 PM (/qEW2)

My lawn off it

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 28, 2017 02:36 PM (lKyWE)

228 You can make movies to your liking
Or you can make movies that the population likes
Your choice

Posted by: Skip -son of Sonobi-tch at September 28, 2017 02:36 PM (ghofu)

229 The Three Investigators were fags.

Posted by: Bugs Meaney at September 28, 2017 02:37 PM (8rNrN)

230 I've seen this headline, but does anyone know if he was "taking a knee" ala the NFL twats, or taking a knee as in genuine respect? Because it could be either.

------------------------

Google the picture. American Military News

It is a son of Obama and he sure looks like he's emulating Kaperdick.

From the article:

"Not standing for Taps is incredibly disrespectful."

"Protocol at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier is that you stand, and many times the Soldiers who guard the Tomb will directly address people who are not standing and demand they stand."

Posted by: All That Glitters at September 28, 2017 02:38 PM (TgqlD)

231 Viggo Tarasov: I heard you struck my son.

Aurelio: Yes, sir, I did.

Viggo Tarasov: And may I ask why?

Aurelio: Yeah, well, because he stole John Wick's car, sir, and, uh, killed his dog.

Viggo Tarasov: ... 'Oh.'

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 28, 2017 02:38 PM (2wRtc)

232 ...That's when I realized...

the fucking drill was in Reverse!

Posted by: Custom Shelves by Harry Callahan at September 28, 2017 02:21 PM (FtM8u)

Shut 'er down, Horde. The thread here, it has been won.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 28, 2017 02:38 PM (MGCfm)

233 88
But the Constitution is a living document.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:11 PM (LjR2k)

Until you blow its head off.
Off to continue catching up on the comments....And, the lovely Trish Regan in bright canary yellow.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 28, 2017 02:38 PM (8iiMU)

234 Al Jolson: Not in my day

I hate, HATE that it's become trendy to spout Al Jolson references as a shorthand for blackface only and reveal oneself as being Knowledgeable Woke. Most those doing so only know that he was a guy who did blackface and Blackface is Bad.

Literally his whole schtick was a campaign to humanize blacks, subvert the minstrel show paradigm of silly songs with meaningful, heartfelt ballads, and to act as a proxy for those of his friends, black, who were cut out of the Hollywood roles.

So here's Al, having convinced Hollywood to make a movie about a black guy as the first big talkie - what a coup! Except that he's going to be reviled as That Blackface Guy Who Was A Horrible Racist starting thirty years later and ending never...

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 28, 2017 02:39 PM (HtLSE)

235 There are some people you don't want to piss off, and on that list are the soldiers at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 28, 2017 02:39 PM (tVWQB)

236 >>217 206 Watch interviews of Shamalamadingdong where he complains that his box office flops are really good but Americans don't get them. Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2017 02:31 PM (rmVvL)

They're typically so insubstantial/goofy (The Village) or hamhanded (Signs) that one gets whiplash watching Night try to center himself.

Posted by: Zod at September 28, 2017 02:39 PM (Bdeb0)

237 "I read the New England Turncoats actually charged $4.50 for a cup of tap water last weekend when they ran out of $4.50 bottled water. "

WTF?

It's a joke in my family that when you stop wincing at the prices at Disney World it's time to leave, but you know what happens there when you ask for ice water? They give you a cup of ice water FREE.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 28, 2017 02:39 PM (6XIQF)

238 Thanks Sporkatus. I'd think there would be good, solid info on this - not like the movie was made 80 years ago or something.

Probably a thorough analysis of the imagery to identify the class of carrier would be a start. Then determine which ships of that class were in the Bay at time of filming (I assume whole movie was shot in SF area).

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2017 02:39 PM (NDlpU)

239 Huh? A spoof-like movie on the death of Stalin? OK.

==

I can see it, they lose Stalin's corpse right before the funeral and ...what to do, what to do ....

Posted by: runner at September 28, 2017 02:39 PM (QC/4S)

240 201 Danzig was the black guy in Training Day?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 28, 2017 02:27 PM (rjrh3)

Yeah, he later changed his name to Gdansk
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 28, 2017 02:30 PM (493sH)

Golf clap.

And for the query on the guy taking a knee at the Tomb of the Unknowns-it is protocol to stand at attention, especially during the changing ceremony. So yeah, it looks suspiciously like this D-bag did it on purpose to be part of the kneeling quims.

Not enough words to express my disgust for this vermin.

Posted by: moki at September 28, 2017 02:40 PM (V+V48)

241 Movies with politics ham-fisted into them never age well, even if you like it at this moment. In ten years you are all wtf?, that's lame.

Posted by: Barbarossa at September 28, 2017 02:40 PM (QQ+il)

242 Will he be able to put me back together again in the sequel?

Posted by: Humpty Dumpty at September 28, 2017 02:40 PM (/qEW2)

243 Nothing good comes from having Sonobi implants in your head.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus, Not My Sonobis at September 28, 2017 02:41 PM (h2y5G)

244 Who was the guy who played the black guy in The Empire Strikes Back?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:41 PM (LjR2k)

245 202: roland, you are the man. love the nic my friend.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 28, 2017 02:41 PM (KP5rU)

246 >>235 There are some people you don't want to piss off, and on that list are the soldiers at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 28, 2017 02:39 PM (tVWQB)

And the Injuns buried under Cuesta Verde...

Posted by: Zod at September 28, 2017 02:41 PM (Bdeb0)

247 Yeah, Tomb of the Unknowns etiquette is strict, and enunciated specifically prior to ceremonies by the guards (only place I have seen this in the US). Would think any nonsense there would be dealt with vigorously.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2017 02:41 PM (NDlpU)

248 "Protocol at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier is that you stand, and many times the Soldiers who guard the Tomb will directly address people who are not standing and demand they stand."

In my universe, it would say:

And shoot those who dont.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2017 02:42 PM (wyNrR)

249 I can see it, they lose Stalin's corpse right before the funeral and ...what to do, what to do ....
====

OT completely, but Rapone , the Westpoint Grad Commie Tweeted that he hoped to someday give Stalin's body a proper burial.

Shattered my creepy-meter.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 28, 2017 02:42 PM (2wRtc)

250 Yeah, you can blow me.

Posted by: Jupiter Jones at September 28, 2017 02:42 PM (pMGkg)

251 One of the saddest things today, is that EVERYTHING is made political....

Why? Politics is how we try to control our Government... and the Government is now so intrusive in EVERYTHING in our lives... that politics is personal every single day.

Movies.... NFL... TV News... hell... Mom got pissed at her Pastor last Sunday for a political statement he made...

Even Women's single ads take sides... 'swipe left if you voted for Trump' or 'if you support the current President we would not get along' is on about 10% of Women's ads here in Clownifornia...

So its REALLY nice to see someone saying they are going to try to take politics OUT of entertainment.

Posted by: Don Q. at September 28, 2017 02:42 PM (NgKpN)

252 237; fuck disney and everything about that evil empire.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 28, 2017 02:43 PM (KP5rU)

253 I wish the Captain of the Guard would have order him to stand or removed him.

The tomb is certainly not a site for political protest or irreverent behavior.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 28, 2017 02:02 PM (wo3jg)

Hard to tell if the kneeler was a left-wing jerk, or just some poor sap who thought one was supposed to take a knee as a sign of respect.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 28, 2017 02:43 PM (O848g)

254 Red Rover is a game that cannot be "won", by design.

Posted by: Barbarossa at September 28, 2017 02:43 PM (QQ+il)

255 >>OT completely, but Rapone , the Westpoint Grad Commie Tweeted that he hoped to someday give Stalin's body a proper burial.

Balls Deep.

Posted by: garrett at September 28, 2017 02:43 PM (FtM8u)

256
"Protocol at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier is that you stand, and many times the Soldiers who guard the Tomb will directly address people who are not standing and demand they stand."

And put on a decent shirt.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 28, 2017 02:43 PM (lKyWE)

257 They give you a cup of ice water FREE.
___________________________
Yes.

Free.

Posted by: The Disney Pond Alligator at September 28, 2017 02:43 PM (wo3jg)

258 I thought Kingsman was a shitty movie. The beginning was cool and led me to believe it would be a James Bond spoof.
I don't care for exploding heads.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 28, 2017 02:44 PM (7uYFy)

259 Mark Strong sits in the hanger, and sets off the enemy weapon that SLJ only wanted as a deterant. He does more damage than any Bond villain ever drempt of, with the exception of Moonraker.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 28, 2017 02:44 PM (/4Gjw)

260 169 I didn't see the original movie. What happened in the Southern Evangelical Church? Did they gets their heads blown off too or just your normal Evangelical church where theres a riot among members?/sarc.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 28, 2017 02:25 PM (iVOAv)

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It wasn't portrayed as a Southern Evangelical Church. It was a Fred Phelps church. They got their just results.

Posted by: NJRob at September 28, 2017 02:44 PM (hkj67)

261 Yeah, the Green Bay thing tonight could be a watershed, a turning-point, a ...... well, meaningful as to where this goes.

Kinda love the Rodgers has done the dumbest possible thing - openly call for the fans to get involved. Thus forcing many of them to confront an issue they just find idiotic and annoying and a distraction from their interest in this entertainment brand.

Will some moron in WI or with the NFL network thinggy promise to live-blog this trainwreck tonight?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2017 02:44 PM (NDlpU)

262 OT completely, but Rapone , the Westpoint Grad Commie Tweeted that he hoped to someday give Stalin's body a proper burial.
=======

With him in the hole with his beloved?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 28, 2017 02:44 PM (vg8iE)

263 Rapone wants to give Stalin a decent burial.? Sounds like either a sociopath or really desperate to get out of his army commitments or both.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 28, 2017 02:45 PM (iVOAv)

264 And for the query on the guy taking a knee at the Tomb of the
Unknowns-it is protocol to stand at attention, especially during the
changing ceremony. So yeah, it looks suspiciously like this D-bag did
it on purpose to be part of the kneeling quims.

If so, fuck him.

War.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at September 28, 2017 02:45 PM (4df7R)

265 I may be prude but that whole sticking it in the virgin (right?) princesses' squeak hole for the last hour of the movie was ... uh...tone retard.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 28, 2017 02:45 PM (XhN8Z)

266 Hard to tell if the kneeler was a left-wing jerk, or just some poor sap who thought one was supposed to take a knee as a sign of respect.
______________________________________

Yes, I agree. I just saw the photo over at Weasel Zippers.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 28, 2017 02:45 PM (wo3jg)

267 Best role in Kingsman 2 is Elton John playing himself.

Posted by: Hope Solo at September 28, 2017 02:45 PM (8Zq2n)

268 Probably a thorough analysis of the imagery to identify the class of carrier would be a start. Then determine which ships of that class were in the Bay at time of filming (I assume whole movie was shot in SF area).

They're the same class, and a brazilian of them were made, but the film crews don't appear to have really bothered to leave notes, meaning it's down to dates on the sale documents. And while the Rabaul belonged to somebody IIRC on the other side of the bay and is plausible, the actual dock belonged to somebody else(?) and the BingDing belonged to somebody in Portland at that time and some other escorts had been in the bay at least recently.

So it's possible the BingDing ended up transferred to the guy who owned the dock and he also got the Rabaul, or that the film crew shipped BingDing down the coast, or...

IIRC it's a mess.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 28, 2017 02:45 PM (HtLSE)

269 Man's suspected cancer tumor turns out to be a toy he inhaled 40 years ago.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/276771/

Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2017 02:46 PM (rmVvL)

270 I am nowways firstus evah!

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 28, 2017 02:46 PM (YV+SU)

271 There are some people you don't want to piss off, and on that list are the soldiers at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

When we were there, a guy's hat blew off and he went over the ropes to get it and was welcomed by an advancing sentry with a fixed bayonet telling him to get back behind the ropes.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 28, 2017 02:46 PM (O5Q3r)

272 261: not me.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 28, 2017 02:46 PM (KP5rU)

273 >>254 Red Rover is a game that cannot be "won", by design. Posted by: Barbarossa at September 28, 2017 02:43 PM (QQ+il)

Come to think of it, few of those playground games were. Submitted as evidence: "Muckle" (aka "smear the queer.")

Posted by: Zod at September 28, 2017 02:46 PM (Bdeb0)

274 Funny fact about Kingsman. At the end when kid asks for the code to the Swedish (?) babes jail cell. 2625. Spells anal.

Posted by: Bosk at September 28, 2017 02:46 PM (fjMEv)

275 Best role in Kingsman 2 is Elton John playing himself.
Posted by: Hope Solo at September 28, 2017 02:45 PM (8Zq2n)

I read that fast and thought I saw a "with" in there.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 28, 2017 02:47 PM (7uYFy)

276 244 Who was the guy who played the black guy in The Empire Strikes Back?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:41 PM (LjR2k)

That's Lando Calrissian.

No Star Wars actor ever gets their name back. (From the good trilogy people, don't yell.)

Except maybe Han Solo. But he's still Han Solo to me. (Though he can't fly worth a damn anymore.)

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 28, 2017 02:47 PM (72PAC)

277 Honestly, I believe this is one of those "you can't put the genie back in the bottle moments.

The election certainly was one of those moments for my previously apolitical and annoyed royally with my past political activism wife. Reading the invective in the local paper directed at people like us - you know, Trump voters - was a real eye-opener for her.

Me? I've been called a nazi bigot hater whateverphobe so many times over the 20+ years I was "involved" I couldn't start to count but this was the first time something like this was directed at her, from people she considered to be... neighbors.

That toothpaste ain't a-goin back in the tube anytime soon I can tell ya.

Posted by: DocJ at September 28, 2017 02:47 PM (NYS7S)

278 I can see it, they lose Stalin's corpse right before the funeral and ...what to do, what to do ....
====

OT completely, but Rapone , the Westpoint Grad Commie Tweeted that he hoped to someday give Stalin's body a proper burial.

Shattered my creepy-meter.

===

huh, other than the obvious craziness, I don't think he thought through logistics of that enterprise, I mean I think Stalin is interred in the Kremlin wall. how was he gonna drill into that ??

Posted by: runner at September 28, 2017 02:47 PM (QC/4S)

279
Didn't Matthew Vaughn grow up thinking that Robert Vaughn was his father? Robert was involved with his mother for a while but it turned out Vaughn wasn't his father but he kept the last name any way. Should have gone to Maury to save all of the confusion.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 28, 2017 02:47 PM (493sH)

280 Hard to tell if the kneeler was a left-wing jerk, or just some poor sap who thought one was supposed to take a knee as a sign of respect.
______________________________________

Yes, I agree. I just saw the photo over at Weasel Zippers.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 28, 2017 02:45 PM (wo3jg)

----------------------------

"Protocol at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier is that you stand, and many times the Soldiers who guard the Tomb will directly address people who are not standing and demand they stand."
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Posted by: All That Glitters at September 28, 2017 02:48 PM (TgqlD)

281 And in some respects "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now." http://tinyurl.com/y7pvc6ka

I loved Richard Curtis' films until Love Actually when his politics weighed down a lovely film with a lovely message outside of political messages. I have not seen one since then, that was 2003.

It applies to most media. Berke Breathed was so funny until he became so angry that his political views overwhelmed his sense of irony.

Chuck Lorre claims to keep politics out of his shows so they remain timeless. {Only Lorre show I watch is TBBT, so I cannot say if he is being truthful.}

Posted by: Locke Common at September 28, 2017 02:48 PM (pYsP+)

282 They're typically so insubstantial/goofy (The
Village) or hamhanded (Signs) that one gets whiplash watching Night try
to center himself.

Posted by: Zod at September 28, 2017 02:39 PM (Bdeb0)

I actually REALLY like "Signs." It's got enough of a creepy edge to make it fun, and I think it's a good representation of how people in a small, rural area would act during an alien invasion. But what I find most interesting is the story of Mel Gibson's character, a former man of God, re-discovering his faith. The whole "water is like acid to aliens" thing is a dumb twist, but otherwise the movie itself is pretty good.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at September 28, 2017 02:48 PM (4df7R)

283 Man's suspected cancer tumor turns out to be a toy he inhaled 40 years ago.
=====

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: John McCain at September 28, 2017 02:48 PM (vg8iE)

284 I think you could win Witch in the Ditch by catching on the little kids and converting them to witches also.

Like The Borg.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 28, 2017 02:48 PM (QQ+il)

285 274 Funny fact about Kingsman. At the end when kid asks for the code to the Swedish (?) babes jail cell. 2625. Spells anal.
_____________________________________

It also spells "coal."

Posted by: Santa Claus at September 28, 2017 02:49 PM (wo3jg)

286 many months, if not years ago, somewhere on this blog was posted a video of "sheep protesting" I think from New Zealand. It was the funniest thing. I replay it often when I need a chuckle.

I don't have the talent but would love to see someone photoshop kneeling NFL protesters heads to those sheep

Posted by: fios at September 28, 2017 02:49 PM (RzUqr)

287 >>Hard to tell if the kneeler was a left-wing jerk, or just some poor sap
who thought one was supposed to take a knee as a sign of respect.

Eh, look at the crowd - they're all standing. One would normally take that as a cue that kneeling is not the proper way to show respect. This was also taken during recent days when the kneeling thing has been intentionally used outside of anthem, such as Georgetown professors kneeling to protest Sessions, Sheila Jackson-Lee kneeling on the floor while Congress was in session, various celebs tweeting pics of themselves kneeling to indicate solidarity with the NFL players, etc.

I'd say he was attempting to find a new venue in which to inject the kneeling protest and failed miserably. He's proving how it is very much a "F@#$ you, America!" and not a pro-civil rights message.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2017 02:50 PM (W+vEI)

288 Kingsmen should be rebooted with an all female cast.

Posted by: Fat Funny Actress Du Jour at September 28, 2017 02:50 PM (bc2Lc)

289 Will some moron in WI or with the NFL network thinggy promise to live-blog this trainwreck tonight?
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We'll have coverage, 24/7

Posted by: FAILARMY at September 28, 2017 02:50 PM (XQvuQ)

290 Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at September 28, 2017 02:48 PM (4df7R)

Signs remains one of my favorite movies.

I have a soft spot for the Village as well, for it's flaws.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 28, 2017 02:50 PM (72PAC)

291 Ha!

I just had an ebay ad on the front page.

...for a Messenger Bag.

Posted by: garrett at September 28, 2017 02:51 PM (FtM8u)

292 Man's suspected cancer tumor turns out to be a toy he inhaled 40 years ago.

Big schnoz. Karl Mauldin?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2017 02:51 PM (wyNrR)

293 The whole "water is like acid to aliens" thing is a dumb twist, but otherwise the movie itself is pretty good.

Somebody on here has suggested that the water weakness thing makes more sense if the aliens are not aliens per se... but demons.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 28, 2017 02:51 PM (HtLSE)

294 Kinda love the Rodgers has done the dumbest possible thing - openly call for the fans to get involved. Thus forcing many of them to confront an issue they just find idiotic and annoying and a distraction from their interest in this entertainment brand.

Will some moron in WI or with the NFL network thinggy promise to live-blog this trainwreck tonight?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2017 02:44 PM (NDlpU)

I'd love to see fans, right before the anthem, hold up signs saying - Kneel Before Trump or Link Arms to Support Trump

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 28, 2017 02:52 PM (493sH)

295 283 Man's suspected cancer tumor turns out to be a toy he inhaled 40 years ago.
________________________________________

In April: Sir, I'm afraid you have a nine-inch dildo shaped tumor on your lung.

In September: Uhh, dude. How can you even breathe?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 28, 2017 02:52 PM (wo3jg)

296 The Slim Whitman yodeling thing was so much better.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 28, 2017 02:52 PM (LjR2k)

297 OT - so what is going to happen at tonights NFL game? Will the Packer fans actually link arms and disrespect the flag or will they roundly boo the idiots on the field?

Posted by: IC at September 28, 2017 02:15 PM (a0IVu)

I'd like to see the Cheeseheads all stand, put their hands over their hearts, and sing the anthem.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 28, 2017 02:52 PM (O848g)

298 I have a soft spot for the Village as well, for it's flaws.

Not a horrible move, and one of the most hauntingly beautiful soundtracks ever made.

Posted by: DocJ at September 28, 2017 02:52 PM (NYS7S)

299 Baby's First Coke Spoon?

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 28, 2017 02:52 PM (fSiAi)

300 I enjoy Shamalamadingdongs films. I just don't watch them twice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 28, 2017 02:52 PM (QQ+il)

301 Also, to answer the question, Lando Calrissian's former name is Billy Dee Williams.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 28, 2017 02:53 PM (72PAC)

302 >>>232 ...That's when I realized...

the fucking drill was in Reverse!

Posted by: Custom Shelves by Harry Callahan

...

stop using words that hurt, and start using words that *help.*

Posted by: The More You Know About Ace's Shelving Dysfunction at September 28, 2017 02:53 PM (8rNrN)

303 Nood

Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2017 02:53 PM (rmVvL)

304 I found the NFL Schedule from last year. Last year the Monday night game was Atlanta and New Orleans. So not really surprising a Dallas game would see a 3% bump over that even with people pissed.

Same with tonight's game. Its Green Bay vs. Chicago. Last year's week 4 game was Bengals vs Dolphins. So they'll be claiming a victory tonight when ratings are higher than last year, even though it will be mostly meaningless because the teams and match up will determine interest.

Posted by: buzzion at September 28, 2017 02:54 PM (cAnNx)

305 I'd like the Cheeseheads to all stay home and let Rogers play in an empty stadium.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 28, 2017 02:54 PM (wo3jg)

306 Nude Something Something Thread

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 28, 2017 02:54 PM (QQ+il)

307 It also spells "coal."
Posted by: Santa Claus at September 28, 2017 02:49 PM (wo3jg)

Racist!

Posted by: Black Peter at September 28, 2017 02:54 PM (mJ8mX)

308 260 169 I didn't see the original movie. What happened in the Southern Evangelical Church? Did they gets their heads blown off too or just your normal Evangelical church where theres a riot among members?/sarc.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 28, 2017 02:25 PM (iVOAv)

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It wasn't portrayed as a Southern Evangelical Church. It was a Fred Phelps church. They got their just results.
Posted by: NJRob at September 28, 2017 02:44 PM (hkj67)

Except Fred Phelps is in Kansas. Go ahead and spin some more. Doesn't bother me but it's obvious that it was not just a portrayal of an outlier.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 28, 2017 02:55 PM (N7KlP)

309 QuietMan, I've seen suggestions like that, pretty funny - hold up signs that in effect hijack the hijacking of the anthem ceremony, humorously.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 28, 2017 02:55 PM (NDlpU)

310 The Slim Whitman yodeling thing was so much better.
AAAAACCCKKK! AAAAAAAAACKKK! *sploom*

Posted by: AckAck. AAACK-AckAck at September 28, 2017 02:55 PM (HtLSE)

311 Right? Rodgers be all like "Mike Florio told me the league stood together in unity after Trump's obscene attacks against every person in the NFL and that the fans thought it was great. So, I know, my fan base made up of Olivia Munns' gay hairdressers and her agent, should be all up in this if I go super-woke and let them get involved too in protesting white people, their privilege, history, and trump"

It's sad to think that dumb athletes are being advised by even dumber pretend journalists (sorry, Mike Wise).

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 28, 2017 02:56 PM (XhN8Z)

312 It's like it's finally sunk in that their wives have been doing the whole defensive team behind their backs (while they've been working overtime and double time to pay for it) and they've finally just found out even though their friends have been telling them for years that 'she just ain't no good' but not only wouldn't they listen they yelled at you instead.

It must be so shocking and sad to learn what many of us figured out years ago.

Posted by: All That Glitters at September 28, 2017 02:56 PM (TgqlD)

313
I actually REALLY like "Signs." It's got enough
of a creepy edge to make it fun, and I think it's a good representation
of how people in a small, rural area would act during an alien invasion.
But what I find most interesting is the story of Mel Gibson's
character, a former man of God, re-discovering his faith. The whole
"water is like acid to aliens" thing is a dumb twist, but otherwise the
movie itself is pretty good.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at September 28, 2017 02:48 PM (4df7R)

They treated Mel and his ex-job with respect, which wouldn't happen now.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 28, 2017 02:56 PM (dKiJG)

314 >>>Except maybe Han Solo. But he's still Han Solo to me. (Though he can't fly worth a damn anymore.)

C3PO: The odds of an aging man who is chronically stoned on pot successfully piloting a plane are six million seven hundred thousand three hundred and twenty two to one---

HARRISON FORD: Never tell me the odds!
(pause)
Oh shit, we're going down again.

Posted by: ace at September 28, 2017 02:56 PM (8rNrN)

315 OT completely, but Rapone , the Westpoint Grad Commie Tweeted that he hoped to someday give Stalin's body a proper burial.

I think it was Lenin's body, not Stalin's. Though the guy's such an obnoxious asshat, he may have talked about both at different times.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at September 28, 2017 02:57 PM (4df7R)

316 Ah. Julianne Moore. The bint in "Children of Men", the film that turned the moral of the book upside down.

Posted by: JAS at September 28, 2017 02:57 PM (UnDQI)

317 Here's how the conversation went after seeing the first movie:

Mrs. Chronda: It was fun, except for the scene where everyone's heads blew up. What was your favorite part?

Me: The scene where everyone's heads blew up.

Haven't seen the second yet.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 28, 2017 02:57 PM (sGtp+)

318 One of the saddest things today, is that EVERYTHING is made political....
...
Posted by: Don Q.

Liberals want power, even if it is only a vicarious sense of power. So they are energized to infiltrate and politicize things, because if they can change people's minds and their guy gets in, it gives them a buzz.

Conservatives want to be left alone. They assume that politics is like plumbing. As long as it isn't overflowing fecal water all over the bathroom floor, just assume it's all running great and ignore it.

So naturally liberals are going to end up injecting political messages into culture, to get a buzz from being influential.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 28, 2017 02:57 PM (/qEW2)

319 I thought Kingsman was a shitty movie. The beginning was cool and led me to believe it would be a James Bond spoof.
I don't care for exploding heads.

Posted by: JoeF.

What about Maniac and Scanners?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 28, 2017 02:58 PM (/qEW2)

320 >>I found the NFL Schedule from last year. Last year the Monday night game was Atlanta and New Orleans. So not really surprising a Dallas game would see a 3% bump over that even with people pissed.

You know what else happened that night? A presidential debate. I hear a few people might have watched that.

But let's not let facts get in the way.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 28, 2017 02:58 PM (/tuJf)

321 I found the NFL Schedule from last year. Last year the Monday night game was Atlanta and New Orleans. So not really surprising a Dallas game would see a 3% bump over that even with people pissed.

****

right? 3% over what?

Also, what are the time splits?

You'd have to be a Costas to think that NFL survived the obscene insulting tweets from trump by locking arms successfully.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 28, 2017 02:59 PM (XhN8Z)

322 What about Maniac and Scanners?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 28, 2017 02:58 PM (/qEW2)

There were actually quite a few *exploding* heads in Boogie Nights, but I loved that movie.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 28, 2017 02:59 PM (7uYFy)

323 320 >>I found the NFL Schedule from last year. Last year the Monday night game was Atlanta and New Orleans. So not really surprising a Dallas game would see a 3% bump over that even with people pissed.

You know what else happened that night? A presidential debate. I hear a few people might have watched that.

****

"first, we'll use 1981, the coldest year on record, as our starting point for measuring global warming"

no shit.............wow.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 28, 2017 03:00 PM (XhN8Z)

324 I found the NFL Schedule from last year. Last year the Monday night game was Atlanta and New Orleans. So not really surprising a Dallas game would see a 3% bump over that even with people pissed.

****

right? 3% over what?

Also, what are the time splits?

You'd have to be a Costas to think that NFL survived the obscene insulting tweets from trump by locking arms successfully.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 28, 2017 02:59 PM (XhN8Z)

But viewership was down last year on account of the election, right?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 28, 2017 03:01 PM (7uYFy)

325 Kinda love the Rodgers has done the dumbest possible thing - openly call for the fans to get involved. Thus forcing many of them to confront an issue they just find idiotic and annoying and a distraction from their interest in this entertainment brand.

Too bad that Rogers chose to go this route since he personally turned my lifetime hatred of the Packers into something more benign. Oh well, you can take the boy out of Berkeley but...

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 28, 2017 03:01 PM (y7DUB)

326 Loved the first Kingsmen... the second one was s-l-o-w. And it had a ton of action in it, but still dragged. A lot.

Posted by: Ann at September 28, 2017 03:02 PM (jtHQy)

327 I mean, even *I* was kinda like "YOU CAN'T SHOW A PRESIDENT GETTING HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF!!!" and I hated Obama's guts.

Somebody in the room where I was watching the movie alone might have yelled SUCK IT OBAMA!" at that point, but I'm not sure who it was.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 28, 2017 03:03 PM (Nyyc4)

328 Kinda love the Rodgers has done the dumbest possible thing - openly call for the fans to get involved. Thus forcing many of them to confront an issue they just find idiotic and annoying and a distraction from their interest in this entertainment brand.

A-Aron .... (shakes head sadly)

Posted by: substitute teacher at September 28, 2017 03:04 PM (RzUqr)

329 Rhomboid,

Rodgers has even gone further. Sent out a bitchy tweet last night showing a cameraman on his knees filming Rodgers during the anthem from last year basically saying fuck you to taking a knee critics.

Posted by: H Badger at September 28, 2017 03:04 PM (RvXGY)

330 I wish TV would get the hint and cut back on the sucker-punches.

Case in point: in a recent episode of the TBS alien abduction comedy "People of Earth," there were scenes set at a convention of alien abductees. One table in the convention hall had pictures of former Presidents who were "known" to be Reptilians. They showed two: Nixon and Reagan.

Now how hard would it have been to make one of them a Democrat? But no, they couldn't possibly be that generous. That would have been unthinkable.

Posted by: Kensington at September 28, 2017 03:05 PM (Cw3TC)

331 OT completely, but Rapone , the Westpoint Grad Commie Tweeted that he hoped to someday give Stalin's body a proper burial.

Shattered my creepy-meter.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 28, 2017 02:42 PM (2wRtc)

I thought they finally did plant Stalin a few years ago?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 28, 2017 03:08 PM (O848g)

332 "Rodgers has even gone further. Sent out a bitchy tweet last night showing a cameraman on his knees filming Rodgers during the anthem from last year basically saying fuck you to taking a knee critics."

----------------------------------

I love when idiots not only double down but triple down.

"So you caught me in bed with a groupie. Screw you. I did your best friend on our wedding day. And I did your mother and sister both together last weekend while you were at work."

Keep it up guys. Lol

Posted by: All That Glitters at September 28, 2017 03:11 PM (TgqlD)

333 329. I don't get it. Photographers routinely position themselves to get the best shot. What was the point of the bitchy tweet?

Posted by: kallisto . at September 28, 2017 03:22 PM (eO2Z0)

334 "we should get political messages from movies which are expressly political, thematically political from start to finish, and which announce right in the trailers they're political movies. "

In other words. "Box office poison."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 28, 2017 03:23 PM (l9m7l)

335 Samuel L Jackson plays a rich liberal who is so upset about global warming he wants to depopulate the planet.

Around the same time, Interstellar had bad guy Dr Mann.

Posted by: MikeN at September 28, 2017 04:04 PM (o/eHL)

336 Still, go see the second Kingsman.
It's clear that the actors are having a hell of a time, because hey, no pressure, no one cares, just have fun!

And Fallout 4 makes an appearance with the robotic dogs and the 1950's malt-shop.

Posted by: Ingot9455 at September 28, 2017 06:42 PM (HetVs)

337 67 The first Kingsman also had a dig on Bush and Southern Evangelicals. Funny sad that The Southen Evangelical scene was not considered controversial. They seem to be fair game for both sides. Right Judge Moore?
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 28, 2017 02:07 PM (N7KlP)

I didn't like the slap at Southern Christians.

On the other hand, Samuel L. Jackson was a good representative of the wealthy global warming nuts and it was good to see him handled by the Kingsman.

Colin Firth is like Cary Grant in that he simply does not make bad movies. He's been in bad movies, but he redeems them.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at September 28, 2017 06:48 PM (nvMvs)

338 I had lots of fun watching Kingsman: Golden Nipple Ring! For me, it was the third best movie of the year (after Baby Driver and Guardians of the Galaxy).

While it's good that directors are actually thinking about stuff like this, for a woman living in the fifties, wanting to host the Apprentice is a pretty good joke (not as good as the peacock though!)

Posted by: Plato's Modern Heretic at September 29, 2017 04:54 AM (nZ5q2)

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