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McMaster Fires Another Iran Hawk, While Doing His Best to Protect Obama Holdovers

Derek Harvey is a Middle East expert who had been on the National Security Council. He had pushed for a "more belligerent" line on Iran -- in accordance with Trump's, but apparently not McMasters', wishes.

Obviously, then, he had to go.

Harvey was apparently a strong advocate of Trump's decision to bomb a Syrian airfield in April in retaliation for the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad using chemical weapons on civilians days earlier. Harvey also supported a more bellicose Iran strategy than either Tillerson or Secretary of Defense James Mattis.

Mattis, in particular, had strong disagreements with Harvey. Sources told the Standard that Mattis raised his concerns with National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, who was the one to fire Harvey on Thursday morning.

Harvey, a long-time intelligence professional with wide knowledge of the Middle East, played a critical role in the administration's Iran, Syria, and Iraq policies. He has extensive experience as an intelligence officer and analyst for the military, embassies, and the Defense Intelligence Agency.

McMaster meanwhile continues fighting to keep Obama's Team in place.

Harvey was closely involved in president Trump's efforts to rid the National Security Council of Obama holdovers, who were suspected of leaking national security secrets to the press. After extensive research, Harvey compiled a list of suspected leakers and reportedly delivered it straight to the president, who then took his list to McMaster.

Even though President Trump asked McMaster to fire the individuals on the list, the NSC chief refused the president's directives to get rid of the Obama holdovers. This comes as Congress continues to sound the alarm about the national security implications of a White House that can't control the release of classified information.

And as the classified leaks continue to spill into the public domain at a record-high rate, the National Security Council remains staffed with a shockingly high percentage of holdovers from the Obama era. Reached for comment, a White House official estimated that well over fifty percent of the National Security Council staff are Obama holdovers.

But instead of firing the Obama holdovers, McMaster has purged several conservative Trump supporters from the ranks of the NSC.

Obama's holdovers are invested in keeping the "Iran Deal" alive, one imagines. Right?

You know, establishment types ooohed and aahed over the Mattis and McMaster nominations while people I consider more credible -- that is, Deplorables with some subject-matter expertise -- told me both were weak and more aligned with Obama.

They turn out to have been right.

So I guess the question for the "principles" braggarts is this: You supposedly were against the Iran deal. Yet the establishment-blessed men you say are the Adults in the Room seem to be determined to keep it.

So, have your principles been corrupted by your tribal loyalties to the establishment/RINO wing?

Do you really oppose the Iran deal, or do you oppose it like Lisa Murkowski opposes Obamacare?

Posted by: Ace at 08:08 PM




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1 Yay! Ace is on late tonight. Maybe he'll make an appearance in the ONT.

Posted by: The Frugal Shaver at July 27, 2017 07:52 PM (4bjXi)

2 What the actual fuck?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 07:53 PM (PY9jH)

3 Sigh. I'll go summon the others from the fun thread.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 07:53 PM (PY9jH)

4
Note to Scaramucci. Fire McMaster.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 07:54 PM (mbhDw)

5
Jeez, this insurrection is worse than even I suspected.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 07:54 PM (mbhDw)

6 4
Note to Scaramucci. Fire McMaster.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 07:54 PM (mbhDw)

Ditto

Posted by: Denny Crane! at July 27, 2017 07:54 PM (4bjXi)

7 So Mattis isn't really a mad dog?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2017 07:55 PM (IqV8l)

8 Top 10?

Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2017 07:55 PM (s5o+q)

9 Active duty Army officers should not make a career of serving on the NSC staff. Colin Powell is germane.

Posted by: Muthaucker at July 27, 2017 07:55 PM (XtT5R)

10 H.R. McMasterstuf, who do you call when things get rough?

Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2017 07:56 PM (pPKG5)

11 Marines and the other branches of the military love Mattis.

This totally sucks for them, but also for the country.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 07:56 PM (PY9jH)

12 All Obama holdovers should be summarily fired, save for the ones that are arrested, tried for treason, and hanged.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2017 07:56 PM (AWYXL)

13 Nein

Posted by: Regular joe at July 27, 2017 07:56 PM (7PllL)

14 So I guess the question for the "principles" braggarts is this:

++++

I have principles, but I hold them modestly.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2017 07:56 PM (FUu/Z)

15 McMasters Fires Another Iran Hawk
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I still get to use the Ferrari, though , right?

Posted by: Magnum PI at July 27, 2017 07:57 PM (3j2Y3)

16 Do you really oppose the Iran deal, or do you oppose it like Lisa Murkowski opposes Obamacare?

Posted by: Ace at 08:08 PM
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To ask the question is to answer it.

Posted by: WisRich at July 27, 2017 07:57 PM (OAlmw)

17 11 Marines and the other branches of the military love Mattis.

This totally sucks for them, but also for the country.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 07:56 PM (PY9jH)


Chesty Puller replaced by Pud Puller.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 07:57 PM (mbhDw)

18 Meanwhile, Sessions is in El Salvadore trying to do something about MS-13.

Tucker just came from a jail full of MS-13 detainees, and interviewed one guy who said he's killed 20 people.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 07:57 PM (PY9jH)

19 If you read between the lines of the Washington Free Beacon article, especially the last sentence or two, it could be that Harvey is possibly being freed up for some other assignment.

Is he being fired? Or re-assigned to something else?

(Cue spooky music)

Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2017 07:58 PM (s5o+q)

20 Can we take back our palette of Benjamins? Is that an option?

I'd rather give that cash to freaking welfare queens and men who want to be women instead of Iran. Or any Muslim natoin.

Posted by: shibumi at July 27, 2017 07:58 PM (aT+Bx)

21 18 Meanwhile, Sessions is in El Salvadore trying to do something about MS-13.

Tucker just came from a jail full of MS-13 detainees, and interviewed one guy who said he's killed 20 people.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 07:57 PM (PY9jH)


One of Obama's dreamy Dreamers, no doubt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 07:58 PM (mbhDw)

22 Most disappointing. Trump better get a handle on this ASAP.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at July 27, 2017 07:58 PM (66CWr)

23 Tucker just came from a jail full of MS-13 detainees, and interviewed one guy who said he's killed 20 people.

"Yeah, but they were all bad."

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 27, 2017 07:59 PM (6FqZa)

24 One of Obama's dreamy Dreamers, no doubt.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 07:58 PM (mbhDw)


Barry should hire him as a pool boy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 07:59 PM (PY9jH)

25 Trump better have the heads stacked up like an Aztec temple.

Posted by: phineas gage at July 27, 2017 07:59 PM (XsVWn)

26 IIRC, Priebus was in support of McMasters.

Posted by: Article V at July 27, 2017 08:00 PM (mcI77)

27 Chesty Puller replaced by Pud Puller.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 07:57 PM (mbhDw)

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heh

Posted by: SMFH at July 27, 2017 08:00 PM (s5Kql)

28
Former congressman Joe Walsh on his radio show tonight was having the vapors over McMasters and Tillerson might quit because they can't take the chaos in the White House. Let them go

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 27, 2017 08:00 PM (auHtY)

29 Laura Ingraham filling in for Tucker, and has Newt on. They're displeased with the Scaramucci "soap opera."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 08:00 PM (PY9jH)

30 22 Most disappointing. Trump better get a handle on this ASAP.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at July 27, 2017 07:58 PM (66CWr)


Time to whip out Bill Buckley's Boston phone book and start dialing the first 3,000 names.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 08:00 PM (mbhDw)

31 Be of good-ish cheer. What can't go on forever, won't.

All these people running interference and the like are just delaying the inevitable, and making it far worse when it does come.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:00 PM (y4UNz)

32 Do you really oppose the Iran deal, or do you oppose it like Lisa Murkowski opposes Obamacare?

++++

Has the Iran deal ever been published in its entirety? I had the impression parts of it were still secret.

Not that I would support anything that Iran would ever be willing to agree to. My idea of an Iran deal would be that we acknowledge that they have declared war on us and we return the favor.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2017 08:01 PM (pvjTE)

33 Mattis and McMaster are solid. I know less about Harvey, but have heard good things (but mixed). If there is really a need to pick sides, I go with the M&Ms

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:01 PM (RrhD2)

34
I don't like a 'more belligerent' line with Iran, especially when it is in news media headlines. I don't believe in bluff, bravado, and posturing.

When it's time to shoot, then shoot. Don't talk.

On the other hand there is no reason to keep Obama loyalists or sympathizers or fellow travelers on the Federal payroll.

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:01 PM (m9X4Y)

35 OK - I've been making a conscious decision not to be such a dick. So I'll "try" to say this nicely. Work with me here, OK ?

Just because McMaster is Military doesn't mean he's not a Career First Tell Me What to Think Do Whatever It Takes to Advance Douche.

As a matter of fact - since he's risen this high - I'm pretty sure he probably is.

There. Was that tactful enough ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 08:01 PM (fiGNd)

36 President says to do something, if it's legal, do it.

McMasterbaiter has to be fired now if this is true.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2017 08:01 PM (5VlCp)

37 31 Be of good-ish cheer. What can't go on forever, won't.

All these people running interference and the like are just delaying the inevitable, and making it far worse when it does come.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:00 PM (y4UNz)


Your first sentence also applies to America As Founded.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 08:01 PM (mbhDw)

38 This is rather a stressful news day. So many jerks in power that need to be kneecapped.

Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:01 PM (FKrah)

39 Trump better get a handle on this ASAP.
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Early night.

Posted by: Biill VVynn at July 27, 2017 08:01 PM (3j2Y3)

40 'Former congressman Joe Walsh on his radio show'

That guy is unlistenable. At least when Levin screams I might learning something.

Posted by: phineas gage at July 27, 2017 08:01 PM (XsVWn)

41


I would have never guessed we weren't cynical enough


Huh

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:02 PM (hh7FY)

42 Fucking hell. I've never seen anything like this.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 27, 2017 08:02 PM (0mRoj)

43 Looks like no one receiving a government paycheck has the President's back on anything.

Posted by: josephistan at July 27, 2017 08:02 PM (ANIFC)

44 "Even though President Trump asked McMaster to fire the individuals on the list, the NSC chief refused the president's directives to get rid of the Obama holdovers."

So maybe Trump could step in and rehire Harvey and fire McMasters (in the same sentence) and further add, "When I make a suggestion, it's not really a suggestion; and when I make a request, that's a GD order!"

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 27, 2017 08:02 PM (H8S+R)

45 'I go with the M&Ms'

With or without nuts?

Posted by: phineas gage at July 27, 2017 08:02 PM (XsVWn)

46 38 This is rather a stressful news day. So many jerks in power that need to be kneecapped.
Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:01 PM (FKrah)


Martial Law declaration would not upset me. Not with all this fucking shit going on.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 08:03 PM (mbhDw)

47 Sigh

Well the Yankees are up 3-1

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:03 PM (SjImc)

48 Time to whip out Bill Buckley's Boston phone book and start dialing the first 3,000 names.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 08:00 PM (mbhDw)


Can we use the, say, Tulsa phone book instead?

Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2017 08:03 PM (s5o+q)

49 'Fucking hell. I've never seen anything like this.'

It's a coup--this is what it looks like

Posted by: phineas gage at July 27, 2017 08:03 PM (XsVWn)

50 Newt still trying to remain relevant.

Posted by: Article V at July 27, 2017 08:03 PM (mcI77)

51 Jeebus. I've had enough drama for one day. I think I'll go sit on the porch and watch the deer destroy the yard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 08:03 PM (PY9jH)

52 18 Meanwhile, Sessions is in El Salvadore trying to do something about MS-13.

Tucker just came from a jail full of MS-13 detainees, and interviewed one guy who said he's killed 20 people.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 07:57 PM (PY9jH)

Uh..... talking to foreign governments?.... don't we have a whole big Cabinet Post for that????

Maybe... Secretary of State?

Should not the Attorney General be in the US, enforcing US Law?

Posted by: Vicinni.... at July 27, 2017 08:03 PM (NgKpN)

53 Fucking hell. I've never seen anything like this.
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 27, 2017 08:02 PM (0mRoj)


That was sort of the whole point of electing Trump, wasn't it?

Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2017 08:04 PM (s5o+q)

54 >>>Just because McMaster is Military doesn't mean he's not a Career First Tell Me What to Think Do Whatever It Takes to Advance Douche.

As a matter of fact - since he's risen this high - I'm pretty sure he probably is.

Don't celebrate your ignorance so ostentatiously.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:04 PM (RrhD2)

55 J.J. that's a terrifying thought,
look who won't give up any of their power.

those people are still there running shit .

Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:05 PM (FKrah)

56 37. Yes, I know. I do hate that I grew up in a nation that, measure for measure, was worse and more impoverished than the one bequeathed and intended for us. And I do hate to think what measures will go from being 'unthinkable' to sad necessities, to enthusiastic projects. Such is life.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:05 PM (y4UNz)

57 48
Can we use the, say, Tulsa phone book instead?
Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2017 08:03 PM (s5o+q)

Well, it was based on the spirit of the quote. But, sure.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 08:05 PM (mbhDw)

58 46 38 This is rather a stressful news day. So many jerks in power that need to be kneecapped.
Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:01 PM (FKrah)


Martial Law declaration would not upset me. Not with all this fucking shit going on.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 08:03 PM (mbhDw)

Yeah, but no one would obey. If your employees won't obey you on the the little stuff, they sure as hell won't do the Really Big Stuff.

Posted by: josephistan at July 27, 2017 08:05 PM (ANIFC)

59 Perhaps they were/are turned/compromised/being ran by a foreign power as a result of the OPM breach.....


Posted by: wytshus at July 27, 2017 08:05 PM (EVi2J)

60 Weren't Mattis and McMaster pissed that Trump ended the funding ISiS and other Syrian Rebels program? Or did I assume they were pissed because Swamp?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 27, 2017 08:06 PM (2qHjF)

61 'If your employees won't obey you on the the little stuff, they sure as hell won't do the Really Big Stuff.'

The military rank and file backs PDT, which is what is really most important.

Posted by: phineas gage at July 27, 2017 08:06 PM (XsVWn)

62 59 Perhaps they were/are turned/compromised/being ran by a foreign power as a result of the OPM breach.....

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hmmm...

Posted by: SMFH at July 27, 2017 08:06 PM (s5Kql)

63 Fuck it, fire em all right down to the carpet cleaners. I'm about ready to see all 3 million federal employees fired, and sell the buildings to the Russians for all I care.

Let's see, 3 million times $100k per employee, that's $300 billion per year. There, I just cut the deficit in half. And since these employees donate almost exclusively to Democrats, I just wrecked their bankroll too.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2017 08:07 PM (6jaju)

64 >>>With or without nuts?

Without the conspiracy nuts.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:07 PM (RrhD2)

65 Can we use the, say, Tulsa phone book instead?

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I'm not ever sure of Tulsa. Have you seen the vote tallies in the last election?

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:07 PM (m9X4Y)

66 55 J.J. that's a terrifying thought,
look who won't give up any of their power.

those people are still there running shit .
Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:05 PM (FKrah)

Is that any more terrifying than the 7 scumbags who voted to cement the theft of our healthcare coupled with the leaking of sensitive intelligence just to bring down a political opponent? And the shredding of the Constitution to enable a psycho theocracy to nuke up? And on and on and on?

Not to me. Doesn't mean I am sickened by the prospects, but it's now a matter of survival. God help us.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 08:07 PM (mbhDw)

67 Don't celebrate your ignorance so ostentatiously.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:04 PM (RrhD2)


Piss off.

We're both consistent. You consistently defend the current structure - because that's how you make your living. I consistently question it - because that's how you make your living.

And I'm totally cool with you not doing me so many favors. Don't ever forget that.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 08:07 PM (fiGNd)

68 'Weren't Mattis and McMaster pissed that Trump ended the funding ISiS and other Syrian Rebels program?'

They were also pissed about their Afghanistan recommendations being trashed.

Posted by: phineas gage at July 27, 2017 08:07 PM (XsVWn)

69
Marines and the other branches of the military love Mattis.
Posted by: Jane D'oh


What are his views on the transgender thing?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2017 08:07 PM (IqV8l)

70 Perhaps I do not mind scaraymucci's tone after all.
That's what needs to go down, start cleaning house , do this until they buckle.

Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:07 PM (FKrah)

71 @32 Has the Iran deal ever been published in its entirety? I had the impression parts of it were still secret.
---------------

This is correct. Not even the Senate, which voted on the thing, knows everything that's in it.

Posted by: junior at July 27, 2017 08:07 PM (Q6qiA)

72 I'll admit up front that I'm inclined to support military guys but I saw enough careerists in my career to not make it blind support.


BLUF to McMaster and Mattis: Why in the fuck are you not cleaning house and getting rid of every Obama holdover? They had their shot when their messiah was President so go ahead and move them the fuck out.
What are your fucking questions?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:08 PM (mhIjm)

73 Don't celebrate your ignorance so ostentatiously.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:04 PM (RrhD2)

Easy there stud.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 08:08 PM (wYseH)

74 49 'Fucking hell. I've never seen anything like this.'

It's a coup--this is what it looks like
Posted by: phineas gage at July 27, 2017 08:03 PM (XsVWn)


Sure is beginning to look like it.

Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 08:08 PM (sdi6R)

75 I'm not ever sure of Tulsa. Have you seen the vote tallies in the last election?
Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:07 PM (m9X4Y)


I was trying for "most conservative large-ish city I could think of off the top of my head" (after disqualifying Salt Lake City for, well, McMuffin).

Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2017 08:08 PM (s5o+q)

76 'Without the conspiracy nuts'

How about with the balls to get the job done, as ordered by your C-in-C?

Posted by: phineas gage at July 27, 2017 08:08 PM (XsVWn)

77 What are his views on the transgender thing?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2017 08:07 PM (IqV8l)

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Supposedly, Mattis is pissed that Trump tweeted.

Posted by: SMFH at July 27, 2017 08:08 PM (s5Kql)

78

Jailing MS 13 there is a law enforcement issue here

We have to work jointly

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:09 PM (hh7FY)

79 Ed Henry
*click*

Posted by: Article V at July 27, 2017 08:09 PM (mcI77)

80 G-d forbid JJ, I see what you are saying but They won't leave without a brawl and they have all the good stuff.

Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:09 PM (FKrah)

81
Please, Tony! Don't Hurt 'Em!

Posted by: MC Hammer at July 27, 2017 08:09 PM (3j2Y3)

82 Fox goofs not too happy with the mooch.... Screw them i say

Posted by: Hmmmmmmm at July 27, 2017 08:09 PM (P1GJy)

83 and we saw how it was with Bowston Strong, they all hid in their homes until given the ok.
we saw how Orleans went down back in the day handing over their protection.
so i'm not feeling that would be a positive and the pain would be too severe for too many.

Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:10 PM (FKrah)

84
Newt still trying to remain relevant.

Nancy Pelosi has a spot open on the couch.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2017 08:10 PM (IqV8l)

85 >>>Piss off.

We're both consistent. You consistently defend the current structure - because that's how you make your living. I consistently question it - because that's how you make your living.

I merely point out that you are totally unfamiliar with McMaster's career or reputation. Being angry and ill-informed is not "questioning" anything.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:10 PM (RrhD2)

86 @52 Uh..... talking to foreign governments?.... don't we have a whole big Cabinet Post for that????

Maybe... Secretary of State?

Should not the Attorney General be in the US, enforcing US Law?
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Do you *really* want STATE, of all departments, getting involved in MS13? I tremble at the thought of how badly they'd screw things up.

On a more serious note, he's likely coordinating legal stuff and information sharing. Going down and glad-handing is a good idea every now and again, particularly with our neighbors to the south who are always a bit worried about "Yankee Imperialism".

Posted by: junior at July 27, 2017 08:10 PM (Q6qiA)

87 80 G-d forbid JJ, I see what you are saying but They won't leave without a brawl and they have all the good stuff.
Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:09 PM (FKrah)


Well then, bend over and grab the ankles. I am angry.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 08:10 PM (mbhDw)

88 i have been displeased by newt ever since he sat on that couch with hitlers' daughter. newt is below fucking pond scum. him and rove should just start a circle jerk of has beens.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 27, 2017 08:11 PM (KP5rU)

89

I like Scaramucci. Someone needs to kick ass and take names and it cant always be Trump

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:11 PM (hh7FY)

90 84
Newt still trying to remain relevant.

Nancy Pelosi has a spot open on the couch.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2017 08:10 PM (IqV8l)


Note to Pelosi: Carbona.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2017 08:11 PM (mbhDw)

91 And I do hate to think what measures will go from being 'unthinkable' to sad necessities, to enthusiastic projects. Such is life.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:05 PM (y4UNz)

Like hitting your girl's prostrate during anal.

Posted by: Teen Vogue at July 27, 2017 08:11 PM (2qHjF)

92 Easy there stud.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 08:08 PM (wYseH)


CBD - if my opinion means much - and it don't.

Let him roll.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 08:11 PM (fiGNd)

93 It's in the papers - yeah, I know its the Free Bacon but they are not immune to bad journalism - they seem to have some recent faux outragy kind of things lately so, Ida know.

And using my finely honed Kremlinological skills, I spot a paragraph that makes me wonder:

He is also known for recognizing the growing threat of the Iraqi insurgency following the U.S. invasion in 2003, and as a key ally of retired Gen. David Petraeus in executing the surge in Iraq. Petraeus has called Harvey his "favorite intelligence officer."

The blood is not good between Petraeus and McMaster. Petraeus was at one point a fan of McMaster, convening a special promotion panel that he returned from CENTCOM to come back and personally chair when McMaster was passed over for BG. One might think that McMaster and Petraeus are tight (google McMaster and Petraeus and you will find plenty of conspiracy theory that McMaster is just Petraeus in drag), part of the "COIN Mafia" - but I think there was significant fallout from Petraeus's tenure at CIA and his leaving the post in disgrace.

I am not a fan of Petraeus, so if a Petraeus favorite is getting canned, I am not necessarily dismayed.

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 08:11 PM (jHrzU)

94 So no the freebeacon is a serious news source? After a day of pointing out "fake news" we're going to run on this?

Count me out.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 27, 2017 08:11 PM (MINbv)

95 Swamp status: foetid.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 27, 2017 08:11 PM (7gCCJ)

96 Derek Harvey wanted MORE US involvement in Syria. Is that what all his advocates are in favor of?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:11 PM (RrhD2)

97 Do these people want Archer memes? Because this is how you get Archer memes.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:12 PM (y4UNz)

98
Do you *really* want STATE, of all departments, getting involved in MS13? I tremble at the thought of how badly they'd screw things up.

Midnight basketball.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2017 08:12 PM (IqV8l)

99

So many rest on reputation

What are you actually doing

Show me what you are doing. Dont give a fig about the past

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:13 PM (hh7FY)

100 On a more serious note, he's likely coordinating legal stuff and information sharing. Going down and glad-handing is a good idea every now and again, particularly with our neighbors to the south who are always a bit worried about "Yankee Imperialism".
Posted by: junior at July 27, 2017 08:10 PM (Q6qiA)

I'd rather have him here, going after Hillary, the leaks, the Dems, and Fusion GPS...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 27, 2017 08:13 PM (NgKpN)

101 As a matter of fact - since he's risen this high - I'm pretty sure he probably is.

Don't celebrate your ignorance so ostentatiously.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:04 PM (RrhD2)

Which sort of makes him the exact opposite of "solid". "Weathervane" might be more appropriate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2017 08:13 PM (AWYXL)

102 So many rest on reputation

What are you actually doing

Show me what you are doing. Dont give a fig about the past
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:13 PM (hh7FY)

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hooah

Posted by: SMFH at July 27, 2017 08:13 PM (s5Kql)

103 Waterboard Harf she was there for all of the P5+1 Iran talks.

Allen West needs to be put in a WH role stat.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 08:13 PM (evw2O)

104 Let him roll.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 08:11 PM (fiGNd)

This has nothing to do with you. Trust me, I have no interest in protecting your tender sensibilities.

We have very few rules around here, but one of them is: no ad hominem attacks.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 08:14 PM (wYseH)

105 >>>Which sort of makes him the exact opposite of "solid". "Weathervane" might be more appropriate.

What exactly in his career are you referring to?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:14 PM (RrhD2)

106 96 Derek Harvey wanted MORE US involvement in Syria. Is that what all his advocates are in favor of?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:11 PM (RrhD2)


I don't know anything about him, but is he one of the discredited neocons who never saw a foreign war they didn't want to get involved in?

Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 08:14 PM (sdi6R)

107 I'd rather have him here, going after Hillary, the leaks, the Dems, and Fusion GPS...
Posted by: Don Q. at July 27, 2017 08:13 PM (NgKpN)


Well, he has his Top Men working on . . .

. . .

. . . oh, yeah, right.

Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2017 08:15 PM (s5o+q)

108 J.J as I am.
They really do hope to make this the last attempt by the people to hope to take drag back some sanity.
I'm sticking to prayers
I know there might come a time, but let's keep backing his efforts and hoping this administration gets stronger and wiser.

for now

Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:15 PM (FKrah)

109 If the common denominator behind Tillerson, McMasters, and the other GO(bama)P Islamophiles is Preibus then I think we can trace all these disasters back to the malignant absurdity that is Michelle Fields.

Any man who did what she did would have been on the ground with a knee on his neck and handcuffs applied. Instead the Secret Service agent handed her off to Lewandowski, who had the gall to physically stop her in her tracks, which as treatment of a pretty girl is something that simply cannot be allowed, as every white-knighting beta male instinctively knows (an opportunity!), and so Trump had to lose his right hand man, a man who knew the need to fight and who to fight, leaving room for the GOPe to slither in.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at July 27, 2017 08:15 PM (AphMS)

110 But McMaster was so good in that youtube video describing the Battle of 73 Easting.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 27, 2017 08:15 PM (pzA2L)

111 Boys have a prostate.

Girls have a prostrate.

Duh!

Posted by: Teen Vogue at July 27, 2017 08:15 PM (2qHjF)

112 interesting. thank you.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 27, 2017 08:15 PM (WTSFk)

113 rickl, I agreed with your Dylan iconoclast comments as to the left. I think the same thing could be said for he Hunter/Garcia songwriting team.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 27, 2017 08:15 PM (PUmDY)

114

I mean they are doing a good job getting at ISIS

That i believe

But their other assessments, like about the ME


Not

So

Much

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:15 PM (hh7FY)

115 Send McMasters packing, and if Mattis doesn't have a policy to effectively and fairly remove the "transgendered" from the ranks in short order, time to let him walk also. You can't say that you want to improve warfighting while you allow this Obama/Carter travesty to continue.

As much as I love Mattis for his battlefield savvy and courage, he has an absolute blindspot about Islam.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 27, 2017 08:15 PM (DxWUs)

116 But McMaster was so good in that youtube video describing the Battle of 73 Easting.
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 27, 2017 08:15 PM (pzA2L)

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lol

Posted by: SMFH at July 27, 2017 08:16 PM (s5Kql)

117 Meh. I'd light my hair on fire but I just washed it.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at July 27, 2017 08:16 PM (hMwEB)

118 >>>I don't know anything about him

So are you picking sides in his firing or saying, well, let me look at reasons?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:16 PM (RrhD2)

119 Salt the swamp where it stood.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at July 27, 2017 08:16 PM (Tyii7)

120 Both Petraeus and McMasters are something of media creations, at least in the minds of the general public (like myself).

We only know what the media tells us.

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:16 PM (m9X4Y)

121 Well, can't we just get rid of ALL ubama appointees wherever they are in the government? The bastards were placed to sabotage a republican president or keep hellary reined in. President Trump is a wild card kicking the left in the nutz when they want him to be nother W.

Posted by: Eromero at July 27, 2017 08:17 PM (zLDYs)

122 Don't understand anything going on anymore. Not sure I ever did but I sure don't now.

Posted by: doomed at July 27, 2017 08:17 PM (UW4Uc)

123 49 'Fucking hell. I've never seen anything like this.'

It's a coup--this is what it looks like
Posted by: phineas gage at July 27, 2017 08:03 PM (XsVWn)

Sure does.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at July 27, 2017 08:18 PM (4bjXi)

124 109 If the common denominator behind Tillerson, McMasters, and the other GO(bama)P Islamophiles is Preibus then I think we can trace all these disasters back to the malignant absurdity that is Michelle Fields.

Any man who did what she did would have been on the ground with a knee on his neck and handcuffs applied. Instead the Secret Service agent handed her off to Lewandowski, who had the gall to physically stop her in her tracks, which as treatment of a pretty girl is something that simply cannot be allowed, as every white-knighting beta male instinctively knows (an opportunity!), and so Trump had to lose his right hand man, a man who knew the need to fight and who to fight, leaving room for the GOPe to slither in.
Posted by: Alec Rawls at July 27, 2017 08:15 PM (AphMS)

GorillaPundit?!?!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 27, 2017 08:18 PM (2qHjF)

125 I merely point out that you are totally unfamiliar with McMaster's career or reputation. Being angry and ill-informed is not "questioning" anything.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:10 PM (RrhD2)


I. Don't. Care.

He's made a career off my taxes. Not the other way around.

You know - those people that do that - and I think that includes you, but I'm not sure - have this notion in your heads that I somehow owe YOU.

That's not how it works. Now ... I'd like to kick in extra for somebody like SMFH - because she volunteered, took a toll, and is now back out here with the rest of us.

But I don't ever, EVER, intend to tip my hat or bend my knee to some career government dude. That includes career staff officers like McMasters. Or anyone else.

How about him ... and you ... just stop doing me so many favors. As a matter of fact - I insist.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 08:18 PM (fiGNd)

126

Even Patton got fired

Cant listen to the boss? You got to go

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:18 PM (hh7FY)

127 Meanwhile, some senior officials in the Trump administration have been pushing to widen the war in Syria.

Ezra Cohen-Watnick, the senior director for intelligence on the National Security Council, and Derek Harvey, the NSC's top Middle East adviser, have been advocating the use of U.S. patrol bases in southern Syria, which includes the garrison at Tanf, to go on the attack against Iranian militias in Syria backing the Assad regime, according to a report by Foreign Policy.


Posted by: Military Times - 7/22 at July 27, 2017 08:19 PM (3j2Y3)

128 We have very few rules around here, but one of them is: no ad hominem attacks.
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Dipshit's right!

Posted by: andycanuck at July 27, 2017 08:19 PM (nlbfN)

129 Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:20 PM (SjImc)

130 Even though President Trump asked McMaster to fire the individuals on the list, the NSC chief refused the president's directives to get rid of the Obama holdovers.


WATF? The President told him to do something.

He refused. Issue him a cardboard box and frog march him off the premises.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:20 PM (SRKgf)

131 Im still holding out hope that the Muslim Brotherhood gets designated as a terrorist group.

Night Horde. Sweat and Sexy Dreams For all tonight!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 27, 2017 08:20 PM (2qHjF)

132 Even Patton got fired


--I'm not sure about that. He died as a result of injuries from an auto accident.

MacArthur, on the other hand, was fired.

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:21 PM (m9X4Y)

133 As for Syria - the nerve agent use jas NEVER been confirmed in the first place, Assad using it there would make no sense in the second place, and, in the third place, WTF were we doing hitting the guy who's hitting ISIS?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:21 PM (fA1SL)

134 This thread is out of control. It is out of control and we will be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2017 08:21 PM (s5o+q)

135 I'm starting to get the sick feeling that Obama really did fundamentally transform America.


And oh, btw, he's still out there fucking it up with his OFA.

I wish he wasn't black because then maybe somebody could say something negative about him doing that.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:21 PM (mhIjm)

136 Dipshit's right!

Posted by: andycanuck at July 27, 2017 08:19 PM (nlbfN)

I thought we got rid of all of you poutine-eating retards?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 08:21 PM (wYseH)

137 >>>But I don't ever, EVER, intend to tip my hat or bend my knee to some career government dude. That includes career staff officers like McMasters. Or anyone else

Tip your hat? Bend your knee? Career staff officer? Basically you hate all military officers I guess. Just don't expect me to treat it as an informed opinion.

So you're in favor of more US involvement in Syria?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:22 PM (RrhD2)

138 110 But McMaster was so good in that youtube video describing the Battle of 73 Easting.
Posted by: auscolpyr at July 27, 2017 08:15 PM (pzA2L)

I was an expert at Military Electronics... it does not mean I know shit about anything else.

Being a Great Tank Commander.... means you are a great Tank Commander.... and nothing else.

Posted by: Don Q. at July 27, 2017 08:22 PM (NgKpN)

139 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 08:14 PM (wYseH)

Well ... I do have an Artist's Soul. Extremely sensitive, and all that.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 08:22 PM (fiGNd)

140 BSG I believe you know how many gallons of water are in Lusk Reservoir. And I think your YG and McMaster's are pretty close. I think. Not that I am stalking or anything.

I have an intrinsic and extrinsic trust of McMaster when it comes to doing the right thing for this country. I have a deep distrust of the press which has its interest in causing distrust. They want us to distrust Trump and his administration. Free Bacon has good lists of the top 10 bikini bodies and stuff (okay, I know, that's Daily Caller, same diff) but in the end they are a press outlet and can be wagged by someone who wants to get a message out just like the rest.

What I would really like to see is Republicans point their shivs at people who need knifing. If you learn anything from Scaramucci, it is "be a front-stabbing person."

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 08:22 PM (jHrzU)

141 It's all kabuki. President Trump got a hold of a T-55 and is now throwing the diesel onto the engine and dumping out the smelliest smoke screen dee cee has ever dealt with.

I'm enjoying the hell out of it. This here is the best damn speculatin on the net.

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 27, 2017 08:23 PM (sf2BM)

142 So you're in favor of more US involvement in Syria?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:22 PM (RrhD2)


I'm absolutely positive of this ...

... your opinion counts for no more than anyone else's around here.

No less - and no more. Regardless of how you make your check.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 08:23 PM (fiGNd)

143 Even Patton got fired





--I'm not sure about that. He died as a result of injuries from an auto accident.



MacArthur, on the other hand, was fired.

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:21 PM (m9X4Y)


IIRC, Patton got relieved (fired) from command over the slapping incident in Sicily.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:24 PM (mhIjm)

144 So you're in favor of more US involvement in Syria?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:22 PM (RrhD2)

You aren't making any sense.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 08:24 PM (wYseH)

145 >>>What I would really like to see is Republicans point their shivs at people who need knifing. If you learn anything from Scaramucci, it is "be a front-stabbing person

Who has he stabbed so far?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:24 PM (RrhD2)

146 As for Syria - the nerve agent use jas NEVER been confirmed in the first place, Assad using it there would make no sense in the second place, and, in the third place, WTF were we doing hitting the guy who's hitting ISIS?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:21 PM (fA1SL)

As far as Syria goes, the Assads were/are the least-worst option, and the least toxic to religious minorities like Christians and Druze. So, even if Iran supports Assad, that fact alone should not deter us from doing likewise. In fact, strong support from the West might wean Assad away from Iran.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2017 08:25 PM (AWYXL)

147 Okay, I'm back. The deer did a dandy job of trimming the jasmine arbor. My blood pressure is back to near-normal.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 08:25 PM (PY9jH)

148

Iran is creating a land corridor to the Mediterranean through Iraq and Syria with military bases


Thats very bad

Thats what the increased Syria involvement is about

Stop the Iranian land corridor to the Mediterranean

Think of it as our Cuban missile crisis

Sort of

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:25 PM (hh7FY)

149 --I'm not sure about that. He died as a result of injuries from an auto accident.

MacArthur, on the other hand, was fired.

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:21 PM (m9X4Y)


Yeah, Patton was fired. History. Read some.

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 08:25 PM (jHrzU)

150 "The administration is working with Colonel Harvey to identify positions in which his background and expertise can be best utilized."
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In a statement, Harvey said, "I will be leaving the National Security Council today to take advantage of a new opportunity to continue serving our President and the United States of America in an important capacity."

Posted by: huh at July 27, 2017 08:26 PM (3j2Y3)

151 IIRC, Patton got relieved (fired) from command over the slapping incident in Sicily.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:24 PM (mhIjm)


"Fired" would mean dismissed from service, right?

Patton was benched, not dismissed if I recall correctly.

Not "fired." "Re-assigned" would be more accurate.

Posted by: filbert at July 27, 2017 08:26 PM (s5o+q)

152 IIRC, Patton got relieved (fired) from command over the slapping incident in Sicily.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:24 PM (mhIjm)

And was given another command a year later.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 08:26 PM (wYseH)

153 CBD - I see where this is going.

I'll catch everybody on the next one. No sense in me getting any more pissed and putting you in the spot to send me down the road.

I'm getting soft.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 08:26 PM (fiGNd)

154 Who has he stabbed so far?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:24 PM (RrhD2)


Kinda looks like his own foot right now.

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 08:26 PM (jHrzU)

155 >>>You aren't making any sense.

Derek Harvey's conflict with Mattis was over more involvement in Syria. If firing Harvey is so wrong, and we need to throw Mattis and McMaster overboard, I assume it's because Harvey's views are so right? Or are we just randomly choosing sides and attacking based on assumptions on who one's patrons are? (Which may or may not be correct?)

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:27 PM (RrhD2)

156 Patton got relieved (fired) from command over the slapping incident in Sicily.


but he was put back into command and was commanding something in Berlin when his car/jeep was hit by another vehicle.

And Patton's troops marched a hundred miles (on foot) in two days (or three), and then fought at the Battle of the Bulge.

He might have been relieved of command, but it was more of a time out when Eisenhower found out he couldn't fight the war without Patton.

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:29 PM (m9X4Y)

157 All Obama holdovers should be summarily fired, save for the ones that are arrested, tried for treason, and hanged.Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27,
2017 07:56 PM (AWYXL)

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fire them all, arrest them all, try them all then hang them all.

#ProblemSolved

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 27, 2017 08:29 PM (dqXSA)

158 ...amd furthermore, Qatar must be destroyed.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:29 PM (fA1SL)

159 Hey hey ho ho McMaster has to go! No surrender no peace.

Replace him with Harvey.

Posted by: Shiggz at July 27, 2017 08:29 PM (X8Fea)

160 Let's not bicker and argue about 'oo killed 'oo.

Patton was relieved of command. Colloquially, that is "fired." You don't have to be put out of the service to be fired. And, yes, he got a combat command again.

But I think the point being made is that no one is too big to get fired.

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 08:29 PM (jHrzU)

161 Yes, he got the Third Army. Subordinate to Bradley, who had been Patton's subordinate. I think Patton's mercurial attitude had something to do with not being given the top slot by Ike.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:29 PM (mhIjm)

162

Fine. Patton wasnt fired he was relieved

McArthur was fired

Do you get the larger point that even the most brilliant military mind is subservient to a mediocre POTUS


Do you grok that

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:30 PM (hh7FY)

163 Even though President Trump asked McMaster to fire the individuals on the list, the NSC chief refused the president's directives to get rid of the Obama holdovers.


I just can't believe this.

If I'd told a subordinate to do something, and he forgot or otherwise neglected to do it, I'd call him for the "how do you think this should affect your next performance appraisal" talk.

But if someone willfully refused to carry out my directions, I'd tell my secretary to call security and have this this asshole frog marched off the premises within the next 15 minutes or I'm going to be firing other people.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:30 PM (SRKgf)

164 Patton was relived of command of the Third Army after the Battle of the Bulge.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 08:30 PM (evw2O)

165 But I think the point being made is that no one is too big to get fired.
Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 08:29 PM (jHrzU)\

So you say white boy

Posted by: Labron James at July 27, 2017 08:31 PM (SjImc)

166 Its hard to argue with the McMaster foreign policy, given his startling Electoral College win

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at July 27, 2017 08:31 PM (ZT/+/)

167 New York Post is going to have "Survivor - White House" on the cover tomorrow.

I chuckled.

Posted by: WisRich at July 27, 2017 08:31 PM (OAlmw)

168 Perhaps I do not mind scaraymucci's tone after all.
That's what needs to go down, start cleaning house , do this until they buckle.

Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:07 PM (FKrah)
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Trump needs a few (more) good Scaramucci's.

Posted by: gNewt at July 27, 2017 08:31 PM (tm6wE)

169 What I would really like to see is Republicans point their shivs at people who need knifing.
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the only people the GOPe is willing to shiv is their base.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 27, 2017 08:32 PM (dqXSA)

170 but he was put back into command and was commanding something in Berlin when his car/jeep was hit by another vehicle.



And Patton's troops marched a hundred miles (on foot) in two days (or three), and then fought at the Battle of the Bulge.



He might have been relieved of command, but it was more of a time
out when Eisenhower found out he couldn't fight the war without Patton.



No US forces ever made it to Berlin. The Russians got that city (at tremendous cost).

His troops didn't actually march to the Bulge, being that they were either Armored or Motorized Divisions. But the gist of what you say is correct.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:32 PM (mhIjm)

171 >>>Kinda looks like his own foot right now.

Well, bingo. Let's be careful about celebrating a "fighter" who is throwing all his punches at his own team.
My take: Mattis is hands down one of the best SECDEFs we've had in a long time. Yet people are suddenly clamoring to send him packing?!?
McMaster is one of the better NSAs we've had in a while. If you're advocating for firing these two, you need to pause and take some deep breaths.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:32 PM (RrhD2)

172

Nobodys trying to nation build Syria


They are trying to stop an Iranian land corridor to the Mediterranean through Iraq

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:32 PM (hh7FY)

173 The Obama holdovers are Trump's National Security Advisers... HE needs to fire their asses.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 27, 2017 08:33 PM (FTXAT)

174 Do you get the larger point that even the most brilliant military mind is subservient to a mediocre POTUS
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MacArthur's sin was publicly contradicting the President's policy in Korea, especially the part about invading China.

So it would seem that McMaster's publicly not following the president's directives would fall into the same category.

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:33 PM (m9X4Y)

175 163
But if someone willfully refused to carry out my directions, I'd tell my secretary to call security and have this this asshole frog marched off the premises within the next 15 minutes or I'm going to be firing other people.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:30 PM (SRKgf)


Yeah, I've got a yuge problem with anyone in any government agency deliberately keeping Obama holdovers.

Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 08:33 PM (sdi6R)

176 I don't know if I trust spooks more than combat arms types.

Then again, I was a combat arms type.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 27, 2017 08:33 PM (ZBO0C)

177 IIRC, Patton got relieved (fired) from command over the slapping incident in Sicily.




Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:24 PM (mhIjm)

Patton was relieved at Sicily, but he was the most tactically smart general in the US Army. Eisenhower needed Patton's warfighting ability, gave him the decoy command in North England before D-Day, then ordered Bradley to give him third Army again for the push towards Germany.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at July 27, 2017 08:33 PM (DxWUs)

178 Tony Shaffer on Fox saying the Muzz Brohood may be the big recipient of the info Debbie W-S's IT guy leaked.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 08:33 PM (PY9jH)

179 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:34 PM (SjImc)

180 The Weekly Standard (which first reported Harvey's firing) describes him as an "out-of-the-box thinker who has shown a keen knack for identifying threats before they've matured.



That's what they used to say about me-ee.

*sob*


Posted by: James Comey at July 27, 2017 08:34 PM (3j2Y3)

181 But if someone willfully refused to carry out my directions, I'd tell my secretary to call security and have this this asshole frog marched off the premises within the next 15 minutes or I'm going to be firing other people.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:30 PM (SRKgf)

This is what I don't get.

Boss: Hey, I need you to do this, this, and this.

Me: Hey boss, I did this other thing, and that other thing.

Boss: None of that is what I told you to do. Door's over there. Don't let it hit you on the way out.

...right? How does it go down any other way?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 08:34 PM (ebb11)

182 LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:32 PM

Thanks for that. My off the cuff remarks are, all too often, off the mark. Taking the time to do the research means the thread is miles and miles away by the time I get back to it.

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:35 PM (m9X4Y)

183

I don't do cults

I do do chain of command

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:35 PM (hh7FY)

184 Even though President Trump asked McMaster to
fire the individuals on the list, the NSC chief refused the president's
directives to get rid of the Obama holdovers.





I just can't believe this.



If I'd told a subordinate to do something, and he forgot or
otherwise neglected to do it, I'd call him for the "how do you think
this should affect your next performance appraisal" talk.



But if someone willfully refused to carry out my directions,
I'd tell my secretary to call security and have this this asshole frog
marched off the premises within the next 15 minutes or I'm going to be
firing other people.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:30 PM (SRKgf)


THIS^^^^^^^

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:35 PM (mhIjm)

185 Tony Shaffer on Fox saying the Muzz Brohood may be the big recipient of the info Debbie W-S's IT guy leaked.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2017 08:33 PM (PY9jH)

Was there ever any doubt?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2017 08:35 PM (AWYXL)

186 Also time to sue Murkowski personally to pay our Obamacarez mandate fines out of alaskas permanent dividend fund.

Posted by: Shiggz at July 27, 2017 08:36 PM (X8Fea)

187 Trump says he wants to drain the swamp. Some will oppose him, especially those who saw "Gator Bait" and think it's a documentary.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 27, 2017 08:36 PM (zkGZ8)

188 Patton was worried the war would end before he got back into a fighting command.

Typical careerist.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2017 08:36 PM (5VlCp)

189 This might be a naive question, but if Trump told McMaster to fire all those people, and McMaster didn't do it, why hasn't Trump gotten rid of McMaster? It's kind of gutsy, in the bad sense, to refuse an order from the president.

Posted by: bluebell at July 27, 2017 08:36 PM (UoSKV)

190 The Weekly Standard? That's Bill Kristol, right?

Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

191 191 The Weekly Standard? That's Bill Kristol, right?
Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

Maybe? Maybe Bill Wynn is around and can clear that up for us.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 08:37 PM (ebb11)

192 Newly single right wing Trump supporter seeking a right wing man to do what her Lefty ex husband could not do..... Put a baby in her. She divorced his faggit ass. Really activates my almonds.

Wew!

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1501199518825.jpg

Night!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 27, 2017 08:37 PM (2qHjF)

193 Trump says he wants to drain the swamp. Some will oppose him, especially those who saw "Gator Bait" and think it's a documentary.
Posted by: FireHorse at July 27, 2017 08:36 PM (zkGZ

EPA to declare DC a "protected wetland", 3, 2, 1...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2017 08:37 PM (AWYXL)

194 I am not sure that I believe that Trump would allow anyone to directly disobey orders. I don't think McMaster would directly disobey orders. This is what the NYT (yes, I know) had to say:

The status of Obama holdovers remains a source of tension within the National Security Council. Since the inauguration in January, Mr. Trump's aides have pushed to get rid of many of them, in part because they question whether people who worked for Mr. Obama can be loyal to Mr. Trump. It is unclear whether the new national security adviser, Lt. Gen. H. R. McMaster, is resisting these efforts, though he has made a point of meeting with the career staff.

This says it is "unclear." It says Trump aides want Obama holdovers gone. I do not see here anything declarative either way. It is ambiguous, I imagine purposely so. For example, I am having a hard time parsing this:

"It is unclear whether the new national security adviser, Lt. Gen. H. R. McMaster, is resisting these efforts, though he has made a point of meeting with the career staff."

I don't see how or why meeting with career staff rates a "though." It is not oppositional.

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 08:38 PM (jHrzU)

195 BSG I believe you know how many gallons of water are in Lusk Reservoir. And I think your YG and McMaster's are pretty close.

*cough*

Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 27, 2017 08:38 PM (ZBO0C)

196

Weakly Standard

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:38 PM (hh7FY)

197 I don't know enough about McMasters and have no idea who and where these leaks are coming from to even venture an opinion, other than, what the Left would like most is to have us on the "right" at each other throats.

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:38 PM (SjImc)

198 142 So you're in favor of more US involvement in Syria?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:22 PM (RrhD2)

I'm absolutely positive of this ...

... your opinion counts for no more than anyone else's around here.

No less - and no more. Regardless of how you make your check.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 08:23 PM (fiGNd)

++++

I would love to know what our current plan in Syria is. Not all the nitty-gritty top secret details. Just the broad strokes. Something also that accounts for our place with all the current players there. Let's see:
Assad
ISIS
Iran
Russia
Turkey
Israel
oh yeah, the "good" rebels

Did I leave anyone out?

So, what are we trying to accomplish, and how are we going about it?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2017 08:39 PM (FUu/Z)

199 Thanks for that. My off the cuff remarks are, all
too often, off the mark. Taking the time to do the research means the
thread is miles and miles away by the time I get back to it.

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:35 PM (m9X4Y)


No worries. I've spent an inordinate amount of time in my life reading military history, making me a boring person overall and I have to stifle the urge to correct others. Your knowledge of the subject is more than adequate.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:39 PM (mhIjm)

200

NSC and State loves them some Iran and Muslim Brotherhood

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:40 PM (hh7FY)

201 Cabinet appointees serve at the pleasure of the President. You want your own policies in place then go out and run for office.

Every fucking General either went along with o'fucksticks edicts or got shuffled out.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 08:40 PM (evw2O)

202 Your knowledge of the subject is more than adequate.



Well I watched the movie - Patton, with George C. Scott

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:40 PM (m9X4Y)

203 *cough*

Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 27, 2017 08:38 PM (ZBO0C)


Hmm, name sounds familiar. First Reg, right?

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 08:41 PM (jHrzU)

204 >>>*cough*

Off target, but I'm not going to walk rounds in on my position.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:41 PM (RrhD2)

205 Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:32 PM (RrhD2)

You are definitely the resident contrarian.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 27, 2017 08:41 PM (KtcMg)

206 Well I watched the movie - Patton, with George C. Scott
Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:40 PM (m9X4Y)

I played the bridge.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at July 27, 2017 08:42 PM (AWYXL)

207 191 The Weekly Standard? That's Bill Kristol, right?
Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

Ought to call it the Weekly Automatic.

No way those pantywaists can drive stick.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 08:42 PM (hcyUh)

208 gNewt, Would be helpful , need more fighters , If they want it this way I guess it must be this way.

Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:42 PM (FKrah)

209 199. Originally, we were trying to topple Assad to allow Madame Maomu's good friends and paymasters in Qatar to build a pipeline.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:42 PM (fA1SL)

210 But if someone willfully refused to carry out my directions, I'd tell my secretary to call security and have this asshole frog marched off the premises within the next 15 minutes or I'm going to be firing other people.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:30 PM (SRKgf)

THIS^^^^^^^

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:35 PM (mhIjm)


Really. Refusing to carry out directions is like throwing your bat or helmet in MLB: absolutely guaranteed ejection.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:43 PM (SRKgf)

211 I would love to know what our current plan in Syria is. Not all the nitty-gritty top secret details. Just the broad strokes. Something also that accounts for our place with all the current players there. Let's see:
Assad
ISIS
Iran
Russia
Turkey
Israel
oh yeah, the "good" rebels

Did I leave anyone out?

So, what are we trying to accomplish, and how are we going about it?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2017 08:39 PM (FUu/Z)

We should build a wall around the entire middle east. Everything is a no fly zone. Let them figure it out. Between us and Russia (holy crap, am I a Russian spy???!?!!!) there's enough energy to go around while they kill each other. Persecuted non-muslims are given refugee status and air-lifted out.

Too simplistic? Not compared to my first thought: turn it into a glass parking lot and start over.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 08:43 PM (ebb11)

212 Thanks, blaster. I didn't read the link (of course) as I am sitting out on the porch watching the rain. Can't do both.

Posted by: bluebell at July 27, 2017 08:43 PM (UoSKV)

213 210 199. Originally, we were trying to topple Assad to allow Madame Maomu's good friends and paymasters in Qatar to build a pipeline.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:42 PM (fA1SL)

"Originally" we were trying to build a coalition of Arabs to help push back the Ottoman menace.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 08:43 PM (hcyUh)

214 Why don't people start identifying who these holdovers are? There's some information out there on who they are and why they have survived.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:44 PM (RrhD2)

215 (being destracted by children)

Posted by: willow at July 27, 2017 08:44 PM (FKrah)

216 Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 08:43 PM (hcyUh)

Not meaning to contradict you, by the way, just rakishly pointing out that the whole god damned area outside of Israel is a shit show of the first order.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 08:44 PM (hcyUh)

217 Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:40 PM (m9X4Y)

By the way how is Poughkeepsie doing? Growing ? Deteriorating? I had the pleasure of working there for a few years.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 27, 2017 08:45 PM (KtcMg)

218 I don't know anything about McMasters, he could be James Jesus Angleton for all I know, but refusing to carry out a direct order?

No dice. Adios, pendejo.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:45 PM (SRKgf)

219
I would love to know what our current plan in Syria is.



Don't you

Forget about me

Posted by: Kim Jong-un at July 27, 2017 08:45 PM (IqV8l)

220 BREAKING: Top FBI Lawyer Allegedly Under Investigation For Leaking Classified Info To Media

Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:45 PM (SjImc)

221 Drain the swamp.

Redecorate.

Refill the swamp.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at July 27, 2017 08:45 PM (TgBaq)

222 Just got around to reading the updated Fusion GPS post. I had no idea that Grassley was capable of questioning anyone in that manner. Maybe I underestimated him. Consider my nose slightly less held now than when I voted for him.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 08:45 PM (ebb11)

223 Originally, we were trying to topple Assad to allow Madame Maomu's good friends and paymasters in Qatar to build a pipeline.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:42 PM (fA1SL)

Best course of action right now would be to destroy the Middle East's capacity to produce oil. Russia would see their market improve, so would Canada, and the USA, and all non-muslim producers. It would benefit some muslim producers, like Indonesia, but that can't be helped.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2017 08:45 PM (AWYXL)

224 "Originally" we were trying to build a coalition of Arabs to help push back the Ottoman menace.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 08:43 PM (hcyUh)
----------

This is about me, isn't it.


Posted by: Fat Naked Guy at July 27, 2017 08:46 PM (Dn+ZB)

225 Just who the FUCK is running the ship?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 08:46 PM (ZTRlp)

226 217. And aint that the truth of things? Maybe there's a reason Tengri made that region largely unsuitable for human habitation......

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:46 PM (fA1SL)

227 222 Drain the swamp.

Redecorate.

Refill the swamp.
Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at July 27, 2017 08:45 PM (TgBaq)



Shorter version: chlorinate the swamp.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:46 PM (SRKgf)

228 >>>You are definitely the resident contrarian.

I was trying to remember whether I agreed with Jack Sock and disagreed with Jack Straw, or agreed with Jack Straw and disagreed with Jack Sock, until I realized it was both depending on the topic.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:47 PM (RrhD2)

229 Baker is a close confidant of former FBI Director James Comey, and recent media reports suggested he was reportedly advising the then-FBI director on legal matters following private meetings the former director had in February with President Trump in the Oval Office.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:47 PM (SjImc)

230 By the way how is Poughkeepsie doing?

---

It's in New Jersey!

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 08:47 PM (m9X4Y)

231 221 BREAKING: Top FBI Lawyer Allegedly Under Investigation For Leaking Classified Info To Media

Weasel Zippers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:45 PM (SjImc)

Stake. Kindling. Kingsford Lighter Fluid. Some assembly required.

Too harsh?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 08:47 PM (ZTRlp)

232 I played the bridge.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at July 27, 2017 08:42 PM (AWYXL)



I thought you would have been much better cast as the Siegfried Line

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 27, 2017 08:47 PM (auHtY)

233 226 Just who the FUCK is running the ship?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 08:46 PM (ZTRlp)

Apparently all of Obama's holdovers.

But what do I know, maybe this is 12^1000 level chess and by the end of the year, Trump is in full control of the administration after publicly humiliating all of TFG's leftovers.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 08:47 PM (ebb11)

234
Shorter version: chlorinate the swamp.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:46 PM (SRKgf)

And not just any bargain bleach either.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 08:48 PM (ZTRlp)

235 Stake. Kindling. Kingsford Lighter Fluid. Some assembly required.

Too harsh?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July




too complicated. rope, yardarm.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2017 08:48 PM (0wem/)

236 By the way how is Poughkeepsie doing?


Were you picking your toes in Poughkeepsie?

(ORA.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:48 PM (SRKgf)

237 too complicated. rope, yardarm.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 27, 2017 08:48 PM (0wem/)


What about pointed sticks?

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 08:48 PM (jHrzU)

238 @224 Best course of action right now would be to destroy the Middle East's capacity to produce oil. Russia would see their market improve, so would Canada, and the USA, and all non-muslim producers. It would benefit some muslim producers, like Indonesia, but that can't be helped.
---------------------------

Except Venezuela. That country is so screwed up that *nothing* will help it until Madura is carried out in a body bag removed from power.

Posted by: junior at July 27, 2017 08:49 PM (Q6qiA)

239 I think Mattis is okay but this McMaster guy, who knows. Doesn't seem good right now. But its easy to freak out and light your hair on fire like a manic depressive chimpanzee when anything happens.

Moderately good news: EVERYTHING IS AWESOME! GARGANTUAN WANG!
Moderately disappointing news: WE'RE DOOMED! LET IT BURN!!! CIVIL WAR!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 27, 2017 08:49 PM (39g3+)

240
Best course of action right now would be to destroy the Middle East's capacity to produce oil. Russia would see their market improve, so would Canada, and the USA, and all non-muslim producers. It would benefit some muslim producers, like Indonesia, but that can't be helped.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2017 08:45 PM


Maduro would appreciate it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2017 08:49 PM (IqV8l)

241 And not just any bargain bleach either.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 08:48 PM (ZTRlp)



And then drop the pH, shifting the equilibrium from sodium hypochlorite back to chlorine gas.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:49 PM (SRKgf)

242 BREAKING: Top FBI Lawyer Allegedly Under Investigation For Leaking Classified Info To Media



Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:45 PM (SjImc)


We really, really, desperately need something to break our way. Now I know what it must have felt like in the first months after Pearl Harbor when there was nothing but a string of defeats. Hell, the Doolittle Raid was done more for the propaganda value and the need for some good news than for the negligible military effects it had.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:49 PM (mhIjm)

243 Moderately good news: EVERYTHING IS AWESOME! GARGANTUAN WANG!

Moderately disappointing news: WE'RE DOOMED! LET IT BURN!!! CIVIL WAR!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 27, 2017 08:49 PM (39g3+)


Well kinda. I am more like:

Moderately good news: EVERYTHING IS AWESOME! GARGANTUAN WANG!

Moderately disappointing news: WE'RE DOOMED! LET IT BURN!!! CIVIL WAR!! GARGANTUAN WANG!

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 08:50 PM (jHrzU)

244 Except Venezuela. That country is so screwed up that *nothing* will help it until Madura is carried out in a body bag removed from power.
Posted by: junior at July 27, 2017 08:49 PM (Q6qiA)

True, dat. Let us say it would create an opportunity for a sane government in Venezuela to restart a successful economy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2017 08:50 PM (AWYXL)

245 When Obama stocks the swamp, it's perma-swamp.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 27, 2017 08:51 PM (vRcUp)

246 Except Venezuela. That country is so screwed up that *nothing* will help it until Madura is carried out in a body bag removed from power.
Posted by: junior at July 27, 2017 08:49 PM (Q6qiA)



I would NOT want to be the underwriter of Maduro's life insurance policy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:51 PM (SRKgf)

247 240
Moderately good news: EVERYTHING IS AWESOME! GARGANTUAN WANG!
Moderately disappointing news: WE'RE DOOMED! LET IT BURN!!! CIVIL WAR!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 27, 2017 08:49 PM (39g3+)


That's how the Horde rolls.

Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 08:51 PM (sdi6R)

248 Doolittle Raid was done more for the propaganda value and the need for some good news than for the negligible military effects it had.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:49 PM (mhIjm)

Maybe we can fly a vintage B-25 off the deck of the Intrepid and hit the NYT's building?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:51 PM (SjImc)

249 246 When Obama stocks the swamp, it's perma-swamp.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 27, 2017 08:51 PM (vRcUp)



Nah. Bleach kills everything.

Biology is the life science.

Chemistry is the death science. We can kill anything.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:52 PM (SRKgf)

250 pparently all of Obama's holdovers.

But what do I know, maybe this is 12^1000 level chess and by the end of the year, Trump is in full control of the administration after publicly humiliating all of TFG's leftovers.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 08:47 PM (ebb11)

Trump ought to sit down with Pence and just put together their list and just start firing people.

So what if the positions are vacant. Cant be any worse than what is going on now.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 08:52 PM (ZTRlp)

251 7 So Mattis isn't really a mad dog?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2017 07:55 PM (IqV8l)


Only when lisping.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 08:52 PM (ZTRlp)

252 So what if the positions are vacant. Cant be any worse than what is going on now.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 08:52 PM (ZTRlp)

Hard to argue with that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:53 PM (SjImc)

253 But Boeing made out great! Nine-Eleven's Falling Man couldn't be reached for comment.

Posted by: Born Free at July 27, 2017 08:53 PM (xISuQ)

254 Maybe we can fly a vintage B-25 off the deck of the Intrepid and hit the NYT's building?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:51 PM (SjImc)


Heh. If only.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:53 PM (mhIjm)

255 249
Maybe we can fly a vintage B-25 off the deck of the Intrepid and hit the NYT's building?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:51 PM (SjImc)


A B-25 did hit the Empire State Building in 1945.

Or was that not what you meant?

Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 08:53 PM (sdi6R)

256 >>>So what if the positions are vacant. Cant be any worse than what is going on now.

It's a good rule never to think "well, things can't get any worse". Because they can.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 08:54 PM (RrhD2)

257 And then drop the pH, shifting the equilibrium from sodium hypochlorite back to chlorine gas.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 08:49 PM (SRKgf)

I like your thinking

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 08:54 PM (ZTRlp)

258 Well the pot is boiling .

Hope McMaster boils out of the pot and out the door.


Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved at July 27, 2017 08:54 PM (oBuXO)

259 Keep thinking of Reagan picking Bush 41 to try to appease deep state and snowstorm unwraveling all his work that came after. You don't compromise the deep state. The deep state compromises you.

Posted by: Shiggz at July 27, 2017 08:54 PM (X8Fea)

260 So what if the positions are vacant. Cant be any worse than what is going on now.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 08:52 PM (ZTRlp)
Hard to argue with that
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:53 PM (SjImc)

Yup......but we still should bomb the NYT with those B-25s.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2017 08:55 PM (5VlCp)

261 After today I'm beginning to believe if there should be a second civil war it won't be between the right and the left.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 08:55 PM (evw2O)

262 A B-25 did hit the Empire State Building in 1945.

Or was that not what you meant?
Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 08:53 PM (sdi6R)

Well I meant with a bomb..would hate to lose a vintage B-25

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:55 PM (SjImc)

263 If Trump wants them gone then he will fire them. If this is true then he know it already, and perhaps that will be the reason. If it's false or misleading then he knows that too, and maybe he won't fire them. Or maybe is paralyzed in fear and crying under his desk waiting for the Grand Marshal of the Supreme Court to drag him away.

Maybe the criticism is well meaning. It smells like more of the same old Chaos! narrative, this time written at foreign policy folks like us, instead of the usual Bannon/Kuscher Feud slash fic political soap-opera fans enjoy.

It concerns me, but I don't see the point in demanding things like we have exclusive insider knowledge when we clearly don't.

Posted by: GalosGann at July 27, 2017 08:55 PM (md1b/)

264 Trump ought to sit down with Pence and just put together their list and just start firing people.

So what if the positions are vacant. Cant be any worse than what is going on now.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 08:52 PM (ZTRlp)

No joke.

Rearview mirror mode: They have pulled down a full org chart of every department in the executive branch with no names filled and started putting names of people they know into each one.

Yeah, the first 6 months would have been a poop show as no one would be left who "knew how things worked around here".

BUT WOULD IT REALLY HAVE BEEN ANY WORSE?

Bright Side mode: They can still do this!

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 08:55 PM (ebb11)

265 Moderately good news: It's about time. It'd be worse under Hillary.

Moderately disappointing news: What's the hold up? Why did this happen? Why is it so difficult to fix this?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 27, 2017 08:55 PM (vRcUp)

266 Moderately good news: EVERYTHING IS AWESOME! GARGANTUAN WANG!

Moderately disappointing news: WE'RE DOOMED! LET IT BURN!!! CIVIL WAR!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 27, 2017 08:49 PM (39g3+)

Resolved:

The Horde shall henceforth comment on any and all posts by the Proprietor, Cob-Loggers, or their residuaries, with the following language, in toto:

"That happened."

Further verbiage shall result in permanent relocation to the Barrel, and may Kek have mercy on their souls.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 08:55 PM (hcyUh)

267 253 So what if the positions are vacant. Cant be any worse than what is going on now.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 08:52 PM (ZTRlp)

Hard to argue with that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 27, 2017 08:53 PM (SjImc)

++++

It might be just the thing to light a fire under the Senate's ass and get them to hold up their end in getting the positions filled.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2017 08:56 PM (FUu/Z)

268 Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017"

Snort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 27, 2017 08:56 PM (MINbv)

269

Harvey sees where Iran is going

Not sure McMaster does

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:57 PM (hh7FY)

270 Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 08:55 PM (hcyUh)

That uh... happened(?)

(am I doing it right?)

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 08:57 PM (ebb11)

271 And aint that the truth of things? Maybe there's a reason Tengri made that region largely unsuitable for human habitation......
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan!


I suspect God tested us by putting the ultimate resource in the same region as the ultimate fuckups.

I further suspect we did not test well.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at July 27, 2017 08:57 PM (66CWr)

272 After today I'm beginning to believe if there should be a second civil war it won't be between the right and the left.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 08:55 PM (evw2O)


Who then? Between all of us on the right?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 08:57 PM (mhIjm)

273 No new thread yet ? Well - hell. But anywho ...

252 7 So Mattis isn't really a mad dog?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2017 07:55 PM (IqV8l)


Y'all remember when we were just so fucking glad that Hillary would never be president that anybody Trump named was instantly The Man ?

Well ... Obama purged alot of people. But he didn't shit-can Mattis.

Time will tell.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 08:57 PM (fiGNd)

274 I had forgotten that Stealers Wheel had a song equally as great as SITMWY...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mWa_zbUDkwQ

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 27, 2017 08:58 PM (PUmDY)

275 (am I doing it right?)
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 08:57 PM (ebb11)

(I'm not allowed to comment! Stop trying to get me in trouble!)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 08:58 PM (hcyUh)

276 That happened.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 08:58 PM (fA1SL)

277 What if the word has circulated that Mueller is taking down Trump on money laundering? The permanent council (incumbent Senators like Lady Graham of House Carolina) have nothing to fear and are in full rebellion.

It feels a little like the fix is in.

Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 08:59 PM (+kahX)

278 >>>Obama purged alot of people. But he didn't shit-can Mattis.

*sigh*
Amos was selected as Commandant over Mattis.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 09:00 PM (RrhD2)

279 Well ... Obama purged alot of people. But he didn't shit-can Mattis.


Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 08:57 PM (fiGNd)

I don't think Obama was enamored of Mattis, although your point is well taken, that he was compliant enough to survive the purges.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:00 PM (wYseH)

280 LGoPs- our government. We are beyond simple corruption.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 09:00 PM (evw2O)

281 Whenever the D.C. establishment and talking heads fall all over themselves about the universal "integrity" enjoyed by an "R" appointee ... you can bet your life you'll be betrayed.

Exhibit #1: James Comey
Exhibit #2: Robert Mueller
Exhibit #3: H.R. McMaster

... ad infinitum ...

Posted by: ShainS at July 27, 2017 09:01 PM (ZcAbN)

282 278. Concern noted.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:01 PM (fA1SL)

283 Et tu, Mattis?

I find that depressing. We were all delighted here when Trump picked him.

Is there anybody who isn't part of the f'ing swamp?

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V : The Brewers are hanging on to No. 1 in the NL Central by their fingertips at July 27, 2017 09:01 PM (P8951)

284 Fat Fuck obviously has no clue how the military works.

Resistance: Michael Moore Says Trans Troops Should 'Refuse to Leave' Military

http://tinyurl.com/yahh2vg2

Posted by: SMFH at July 27, 2017 09:01 PM (s5Kql)

285 262 After today I'm beginning to believe if there should be a second civil war it won't be between the right and the left.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 08:55 PM (evw2O)


It won't ... or we'll have two. Because there are two schools of thought in play. In play here. The cause of most arguments.

1 - Does the Citizen serve the State ?
2 - If so, how ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 09:02 PM (fiGNd)

286 278 What if the word has circulated that Mueller is taking down Trump on money laundering? The permanent council (incumbent Senators like Lady Graham of House Carolina) have nothing to fear and are in full rebellion.

It feels a little like the fix is in.
Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 08:59 PM (+kahX)

I've kinda stopped factoring in Mueller as an entity...

I really have the feeling he's just there to collect a fat disbursement and hand it out to his buddies, in exchange for sitting around and doing precisely Fanny All until this whole stupid farce blows over.

He doesn't look like the kind of Swamp Creature that wants to be famous. He looks like the Swamp Creature that wants to get quietly rich and then disappear.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 09:02 PM (hcyUh)

287 Is there anybody who isn't part of the f'ing swamp?
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V : The Brewers are hanging on to No. 1 in the NL Central by their fingertips at July 27, 2017 09:01 PM (P8951)

2 things

1) no, the people who aren't part of the swamp aren't currently in government.

2) F'in right the Brewers are in 1st! Enjoying this while I can.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:03 PM (ebb11)

288 283. Whoever's socking Bill is on fire.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:03 PM (fA1SL)

289 LGoPs- our government. We are beyond simple corruption.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 09:00 PM (evw2O)


Can't say I disagree with you there. I certainly don't call them the Vichy Republicans for nothing.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 27, 2017 09:03 PM (mhIjm)

290 289 283. Whoever's socking Bill is on fire.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:03 PM (fA1SL)

But will you pee on him to put him out?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:03 PM (ebb11)

291 Harvey sees where Iran is going

Not sure McMaster does
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:57 PM (hh7FY)


Churchill saw where Germany was going.

Chamberlain didn't.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 09:04 PM (SRKgf)

292 If MacArthur hadn't been fired we wouldn't have lil Kim lobbing nukes at us today.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at July 27, 2017 09:04 PM (hMwEB)

293
Harvey sees where Iran is going

Not sure McMaster does

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:57 PM (hh7FY)


Maybe that's because he knows the rest of the story

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 27, 2017 09:05 PM (auHtY)

294 >>>survive the purges.

And the "purge" myth resurfaces...

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 09:05 PM (RrhD2)

295 Churchill saw where Germany was going.

Chamberlain didn't.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 09:04 PM (SRKgf)

"Peace in our time"

An aside: a fat lot of good surviving and winning the war did him. He was dropped like a bad habit afterwards. :-/

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:05 PM (ebb11)

296 What if the word has circulated that Mueller is taking down Trump on money laundering? The permanent council (incumbent Senators like Lady Graham of House Carolina) have nothing to fear and are in full rebellion.

It feels a little like the fix is in.
Posted by: charley horse

Fear you are right.

Posted by: Shiggz at July 27, 2017 09:05 PM (X8Fea)

297 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2017 08:56 PM (FUu/Z)

If you light a fire under the senates ass I want them well done to the point of being charcoal

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 09:06 PM (ZTRlp)

298 Kinda weird with Mattis supposedly being forced to retire early because of his criticisms of the Iran deal.

Posted by: John Marston at July 27, 2017 09:06 PM (SkuXa)

299 Is there anybody who isn't part of the f'ing swamp?
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V : The Brewers are hanging on to No. 1 in the NL Central by their fingertips at July 27, 2017 09:01 PM (P8951)


Another source of my heartburn ...

... if they draw a check from The Swamp, what do you think ?

To me - this seems obvious.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 09:06 PM (fiGNd)

300 Last businessman who landed in the Whitehouse was Herbert Hoover. He was overwhelmed and overmatched and things fell apart about this time into his first term.

Remember the old saw.

If Democrats aint happy, aint nobody happy.

Had to figure when Schumer and Pelosi got all kissy kissy that they were let in on the news that Mueller has Trump.

Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:06 PM (+kahX)

301 Former congressman Joe Walsh on his radio show tonight was having the vapors over McMasters and Tillerson might quit because they can't take the chaos in the White House. Let them go
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 27, 2017 08:00 PM (auHtY)


I saw Joe Walsh open for... Ah, forget it. Someone one else opened for Joe Walsh. I did see him at one of our HS dances when he and the James Gang Were still playing the bars in Kent.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 27, 2017 09:07 PM (lIZQs)

302 Maybe that's because he knows the rest of the story
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 27, 2017 09:05 PM (auHtY)



And maybe not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 09:07 PM (SRKgf)

303 Moderately disappointing news: WE'RE DOOMED! LET IT BURN!!! CIVIL WAR!! GARGANTUAN WANG!



Posted by: blaster
===


Velly funny, lound-eye

Posted by: G.G. Tuan Wang at July 27, 2017 09:07 PM (2wRtc)

304 278 What if the word has circulated that Mueller is taking down Trump on money laundering? The permanent council (incumbent Senators like Lady Graham of House Carolina) have nothing to fear and are in full rebellion.

It feels a little like the fix is in.
Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 08:59 PM (+kahX)



If Trump was money laundering then why should anyone pay taxes if the IRS was never able to figure it out after auditing him every year?

So stupid.

Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2017 09:07 PM (z/Ubi)

305
Resistance: Michael Moore Says Trans Troops Should 'Refuse to Leave' Military

1968: Hell no we won't go
2017: Hell no we won't leave

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2017 09:07 PM (IqV8l)

306 I don't foresee civil war. I foresee outpost 31.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 09:07 PM (RrhD2)

307 To whom was this Scaramucci comment about Priebus made? Not up to speed, sorry. Cnn is acting like there were a lot of witnesses or there is a recording of it.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 27, 2017 09:07 PM (PUmDY)

308 An aside: a fat lot of good surviving and winning the war did him. He was dropped like a bad habit afterwards. :-/
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:05 PM (ebb11)



Yep. Although he was Prime Minister again afterwards.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 09:08 PM (SRKgf)

309 I saw Joe Walsh open for... Ah, forget it. Someone one else opened for Joe Walsh. I did see him at one of our HS dances when he and the James Gang Were still playing the bars in Kent.
Posted by: bergerbilder at July 27, 2017 09:07 PM (lIZQs)

Sure you don't mean Joe Cocker?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:08 PM (ebb11)

310 "other than, what the Left would like most is to have us on the "right" at each other throats.

Sigh"

Exactly. As the Trump campaign demonstrated, the left can't govern, report news, or win elections, but they know how to target conservative factions and stir the shit. They're still doing it, and sometimes we're still afraid that this is all some huge trick and somebody's gonna make fools of us.

Posted by: GalosGann at July 27, 2017 09:09 PM (md1b/)

311 Funny to see money laundering concern trolling here from unusual nicks, as that is what the left has been pushing as the golden bullet.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 27, 2017 09:09 PM (tbOMB)

312 Maybe that's because he knows the rest of the story
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 27, 2017 09:05 PM (auHtY)



I don't give a shit if he's come up with the Unified Field Theory.

He refused a direct order? Fire his ass. NOW.

And make sure there are lots of photographers there when he's unceremoniously marched out.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 09:09 PM (SRKgf)

313 Barky was only interested in Generals that would contain things and keep it off of his plate.

PDT wants to WIN things and get it over with.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 09:11 PM (evw2O)

314 I don't give a shit if he's come up with the Unified Field Theory.

Hey ...

... if the cat has Unified Field Theory - I'm willing to make some exceptions.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 09:11 PM (fiGNd)

315 I don't see where McMaster is a big fan of Iran, not sure where that comes from.

Here is something about military folks - a quote from MacArthur - that guy who got fired.

The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war.

Military people are not big fans of getting in fights that they don't need to. Iran is not right now fighting us. They might even kinda sort of be allies in Syria (Syria is AFU - we have a shitload of frenemies there, Russians, Syrian, Kurds, Turks, Iranians, blah blah blah. BSG was asking what our policy should be - I don;t know, but my read is that our policy IS under the Trump admin do ISIS first, worry about the rest later.) Yes, seriously, Iran is attacking ISIS in Syria

And so no one misreads me - I am not praising Iran or being soft by saying they are sort of allies in Syria. But the big place where the US is fighting to knock out ISIS is Syria, and it is better to be on the outside shooting in than the inside shooting out.


Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 09:11 PM (jHrzU)

316 307 I don't foresee civil war. I foresee outpost 31.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 09:07 PM (RrhD2)

There are a lot of people I want at outpost 32

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 09:11 PM (ZTRlp)

317 312. Yep. We should ask them how Cenk & Ana are doing these days.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:11 PM (fA1SL)

318 Funny to see money laundering concern trolling here from unusual nicks,

---------------
Switching the comments over to disqus or Facebook would eliminate that.

Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 09:12 PM (m9X4Y)

319 Iran is not right now fighting us.


Tell that to the soldiers who died from Iranian IEDs.

Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2017 09:12 PM (z/Ubi)

320 Rachel Maddow is spinning more conspiracy crap tonight. Implies that the story about the FBI Counsel being under investigation for leaking is only a warning shot across bow of him and others in the FBI to both toe the Trump line and discredit any possible obstruction of justice charges against Trump (due to Comey's firing).

She's also astounded and horrified that Trump in a recent tweet said the FBI Director is answerable to POTUS. (Well, what the hell does she think the Constitution means when it says: "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States," when neither the DoJ nor FBI are mentioned in the Constitution???)

Posted by: Gref at July 27, 2017 09:12 PM (AMIL/)

321 >>>Tell that to the soldiers who died from Iranian IEDs

Those were McMaster's soldiers.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 09:13 PM (RrhD2)

322 319 Iran is not right now fighting us.


Tell that to the soldiers who died from Iranian IEDs.
Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2017 09:12 PM (z/Ubi)


---

Oh, but that was then.

We're buddies now.

*spit*

Posted by: SMFH at July 27, 2017 09:13 PM (s5Kql)

323 Posted by: ShainS at July 27, 2017 09:01 PM (ZcAbN)

I thought it was understood AoS wisdom that sooner or later a Republican will betray you, and it's usually sooner rather than later!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 27, 2017 09:13 PM (gwPgz)

324 PDT wants to WIN things and get it over with.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 09:11 PM (evw2O)

Syria is unwinnable.

It may be containable, but I would prefer not losing another American life in that shithole.

Let the Russians and the Iraqis and the Iranians and whoever else wants to fight there duke it out for a few years.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:14 PM (wYseH)

325 Sure you don't mean Joe Cocker?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:08 PM (ebb11)


Do you mean the man with a hole in his pocket?

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 27, 2017 09:14 PM (lIZQs)

326 320 Rachel Maddow is spinning more conspiracy crap tonight.

Minor Point of Disagreement ...

... if Rachel spun that shit all the time - she'd be a living example of the wisdom of the First Ammendment.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 09:14 PM (fiGNd)

327 Switching the comments over to disqus or Facebook would eliminate that.

+++


Death by bunga bunga.

Posted by: Minx 0.7 alpha at July 27, 2017 09:14 PM (2wRtc)

328 Death by bunga bunga.
Posted by: Minx 0.7 alpha at July 27, 2017 09:14 PM (2wRtc)

BAH HAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:14 PM (ebb11)

329 Funny to see money laundering concern trolling here from unusual nicks, as that is what the left has been pushing as the golden bullet.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 27, 2017 09:09 PM (tbOMB)

Yup.....money laundering and murder are the Clinton's forte, not President Trump's.

Especially the money laundering part.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2017 09:15 PM (5VlCp)

330 Military people are not big fans of getting in fights that they don't need to.

I'M NOT DEAD YET !!!

Posted by: John McCain at July 27, 2017 09:15 PM (fiGNd)

331

Iranian IEDs

Iran humiliates our Navy

Challenged our ship just the other day


Hey. Their missile launch today broke up

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 09:16 PM (hh7FY)

332 Yup.....money laundering and murder are the Clinton's forte, not President Trump's.

Especially the money laundering part.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2017 09:15 PM (5VlCp)



What do you call a charity that the charity monitoring organizations say that they can't even give them a rating?

Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2017 09:16 PM (z/Ubi)

333 Hey. Their missile launch today broke up
Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 09:16 PM (hh7FY)

It didn't go very far, see?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 09:17 PM (hcyUh)

334 I don't give a shit if he's come up with the Unified Field Theory.

He refused a direct order? Fire his ass. NOW.

And make sure there are lots of photographers there when he's unceremoniously marched out.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 27, 2017 09:09 PM (SRKgf)


It was a Paul Harvey joke. The rest of the story..

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 27, 2017 09:17 PM (auHtY)

335

I dont think Iran should get that land corridor to the Med

Thats just me

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 09:18 PM (hh7FY)

336 Tell that to the soldiers who died from Iranian IEDs.

Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2017 09:12 PM (z/Ubi)


Oh I have not forgotten. But for it to be remembered, it must be in the past. I am not saying that okay there is a statute of limitations but I was clear - Iranians are not fighting us right now.

Everyone who is ready to go to war with Iran right now, raise your hand. This isn't a chickenhawk argument, I want to know who thinks that it is a good idea, right now, for the US to start a war with Iran.

Remember - a LOT of military people were against going into Iraq. For the very reason I stated above - why start new fights? Now, sometimes you have to, and then you go win. But beforehand, you don't wanna. Default position.


Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 09:18 PM (jHrzU)

337 Listen people.. You don't want to hear it fine. I am giving my opinion as to why things are happening as they are. It appears to this observer that the guys with the most reputation to lose are going jump first. That is a very VERY bad sign. Graham saying what he said is a very VERY bad sign. Schumer and Pelosi being magnanimous is a very VERY bad sign.

You don't see it, you're not paying close enough attn.

Here educate yourself. The Feds flipped Deutsche Bank. That's the money trail.

I think it is horrendous that the Permanent Council and it's army of devoted followers can use Stalins method being Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime.

Nobody outside the establishment swamp is ever going to run for office again.

Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:18 PM (+kahX)

338 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:14 PM (wYseH)

No you're wrong, I'm sure that THIS time, we can craft a Constitutional Jeffersonian Republic in the Middle East that will serve as a shining example to all the goat humping moon rock worshiping idiots that infest the area!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 27, 2017 09:18 PM (gwPgz)

339 Money laundering won't stick to Trump but maybe they'll pin the murder of Ben Brackett on him.

(Or was that "Gator Bait"? I have it playing on YouTube in another tab and sometimes I get confused.)

Posted by: FireHorse at July 27, 2017 09:19 PM (zkGZ8)

340

I dont want to go to war with Iran

But they act like they are at war with us

They get a vote

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 09:20 PM (hh7FY)

341
Let the Russians and the Iraqis and the Iranians and whoever else wants to fight there duke it out for a few years.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:14 PM (wYseH)


That wouldn't hurt the energy funds in someone's 401k, either.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 27, 2017 09:20 PM (lIZQs)

342 293
Harvey sees where Iran is going

Not sure McMaster does

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 08:57 PM (hh7FY)


Maybe that's because he knows the rest of the story
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 27, 2017 09:05 PM (auHtY)


Did anyone else but me get that joke?

Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 09:20 PM (sdi6R)

343 No you're wrong, I'm sure that THIS time, we can craft a Constitutional Jeffersonian Republic in the Middle East that will serve as a shining example to all the goat humping moon rock worshiping idiots that infest the area!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 27, 2017 09:18 PM (gwPgz)

Imperium Americanum.

Pro Victoria.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 09:20 PM (hcyUh)

344 "...we can craft a Constitutional Jeffersonian Republic
in the Middle East that will serve as a shining example..."

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 27, 2017 09:18 PM (gwPgz)

I stand corrected.

But first....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:20 PM (wYseH)

345 Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:18 PM (+kahX)


Is that the way it sounds when you have one in your mouth and you try to say you like them?

Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2017 09:21 PM (z/Ubi)

346 Did anyone else but me get that joke?

Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 09:20 PM (sdi6R)


Paaage...three!

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 09:21 PM (jHrzU)

347 Did anyone else but me get that joke?
Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 09:20 PM (sdi6R)

I'm not THAT 29 yet...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 09:21 PM (hcyUh)

348 Iran is not right now fighting us.

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 09:11 PM (jHrzU)

++++

Iran is fighting us anywhere and everywhere we have a presence in the M.E. Not always with their military, granted. They usually use others to do their dirty work.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2017 09:21 PM (FUu/Z)

349 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:14 PM (


Fence Syria in and supply them all with small arms & amo. Let God sort them out. Not one more dime let alone a single US soldiers life

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 09:22 PM (ZTRlp)

350 337.
*points to a winding country road.*
You'll want to follow that until you reach the intersection with County 76. Head west for about a mile and you'll turn onto FM 88. Ya go all the way to the end, right by the bend in the river. And that's where you can take that shit.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:22 PM (fA1SL)

351 That wouldn't hurt the energy funds in someone's 401k, either.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 27, 2017 09:20 PM (lIZQs)

And it would put nice fat paychecks into the bank accounts of lots of frackers in The Dakotas and Pennsylvania.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:22 PM (wYseH)

352 CBD- I was unclear on my meaning of win. Syria is going to have a Russian proxy government sans Assad. The only win is ISIS obliterated and we send a truckload full of money and weapons to the Kurds.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 09:23 PM (evw2O)

353 This civil war we're going to have -- any idea what the color the uniforms will be?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 27, 2017 09:23 PM (zkGZ8)

354 Everyone who is ready to go to war with Iran right now, raise your hand.

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 09:18 PM (jHrzU)


Can I just blink in the affirmative ?

Posted by: John McCain at July 27, 2017 09:24 PM (fiGNd)

355 353 This civil war we're going to have -- any idea what the color the uniforms will be?
Posted by: FireHorse at July 27, 2017 09:23 PM (zkGZ

I'll be in blue jeans and a dirty shirt.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:24 PM (ebb11)

356 I want to know who thinks that it is a good idea, right now, for the US to start a war with Iran.

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 09:18 PM (jHrzU)

It is obviously an awful idea. Who the fuck wants to fight Iran?

There are about 8,000 ways short of war to defang the Mullahs, but we are too stupid to use any of them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:24 PM (wYseH)

357 353. I'm thinking fucking ponchos. And shirts - the guys get shirts.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:25 PM (fA1SL)

358 345 Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:18 PM (+kahX)


Is that the way it sounds when you have one in your mouth and you try to say you like them?
Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2017 09:21 PM (z/Ubi)

You need a banning. Nah nah I don't want to hear it. Fking echo chamber pussy.

Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:25 PM (+kahX)

359 Can I just blink in the affirmative ?

Posted by: John McCain at July 27, 2017 09:24 PM (fiGNd)

That is a vile and disgusting joke, and once I stop laughing I am going to be very angry.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:25 PM (wYseH)

360 350
337.

*points to a winding country road.*




Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:22 PM (fA1SL)

He sounds concerned. It's funny that that's the exact same script I heard elsewhere. It's like they have memos or meetings or something.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 27, 2017 09:25 PM (tbOMB)

361 And it would put nice fat paychecks into the bank accounts of lots of frackers in The Dakotas and Pennsylvania.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:22 PM (wYseH)


But think of Mother Gaia and the carbon footprint!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 27, 2017 09:26 PM (gwPgz)

362 No you're wrong, I'm sure that THIS time, we can craft a Constitutional Jeffersonian Republic in the Middle East that will serve as a shining example to all the goat humping moon rock worshiping idiots that infest the area!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 27, 2017 09:18 PM (gwPgz)


When I first read that I thought you wrote said "Mid West, " and I'm thinking, "Washington CH , OH, would be a nice capital.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 27, 2017 09:26 PM (lIZQs)

363 That is a vile and disgusting joke, and once I stop laughing I am going to be very angry.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:25 PM (wYseH)

No you're not. I was in the thread that was commenting on his diagnosis. :-)

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:26 PM (ebb11)

364 359
Could be worse. Could have gone with Captain Pike...... beep!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:26 PM (fA1SL)

365 I am the McMaster. You will obey me.

Posted by: Roger Delgado at July 27, 2017 09:26 PM (/qEW2)

366

Syria is being dotted with Russian and Iranian bases as we speak

Dont know what we can do about that, but i bet Harvey has some ideas

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 09:27 PM (hh7FY)

367 He sounds concerned. It's funny that that's the exact same script I heard elsewhere. It's like they have memos or meetings or something.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 27, 2017 09:25 PM (tbOMB)

Fusion GPS....it's what's for dinner.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2017 09:27 PM (5VlCp)

368 357
353. I'm thinking fucking ponchos. And shirts - the guys get shirts.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:25 PM (fA1SL)

Ponchos for the ladies. Side boobage.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 27, 2017 09:27 PM (tbOMB)

369 Iran is fighting us anywhere and everywhere we have a presence in the M.E. Not always with their military, granted. They usually use others to do their dirty work.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 27, 2017 09:21 PM (FUu/Z)


Yeah, okay, I don't seem to be saying what I mean here.

In Syria, we bombed the Syrians, shot down one of their planes, cruise missiled their airbases....and yet there are US backed Syrian forces fighting Syria. Iran is getting froggy in the gulf but you send a few tracers across the bow they turn back. They are shooting missiles at ISIS and NOT turning back. I am okay with that.

I don't know this guy Harvey from Adam. All I hear is he is an Iran hawk. Not sure what that means. Is he single threaded on it? Did he go to every meeting with DoD at the table and say "hey when are you guys going to start doing Iran?" I dunno. The article in the Free Bacon says he was a Petraeus guy, but Petraeus was not especially anti-Iran, and he was CINC CENTCOM when Iran WAS fighting us in Iraq.

So, I don't know. There are people leaking to papers to grind axes, this strikes me as an axe griding thing.

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 09:27 PM (jHrzU)

370 beep
beep

Posted by: senator john mccain at July 27, 2017 09:27 PM (nlbfN)

371 we send a truckload full of money and weapons to the Kurds.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 09:23 PM (evw2O)

Bingo.

I'm in.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:28 PM (wYseH)

372 This civil war we're going to have -- any idea what the color the uniforms will be?
Posted by: FireHorse at July 27, 2017 09:23 PM (zkGZ


I'm hoping the progs uniforms will be red. Very, very red.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 27, 2017 09:28 PM (lIZQs)

373 357 353. I'm thinking fucking ponchos. And shirts - the guys get shirts.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:25 PM (fA1SL)

My fucking poncho is still at the cleaners (for obvious reasons. giggity) ....

Can I wear my Sears Poncho instead?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 09:28 PM (hcyUh)

374 The only win is ISIS obliterated and we send a truckload full of money and weapons to the Kurds.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 09:23 PM (evw2O)


There's WINNING and there's winning (which is a lot more cost effective in bioth blood and treasure).

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 27, 2017 09:28 PM (gwPgz)

375
I am the McMaster. You will obey me.
Posted by: Roger Delgado


NO!

Posted by: Jon Pertwee at July 27, 2017 09:29 PM (IqV8l)

376 Can I just blink in the affirmative ?

Posted by: John McCain at July 27, 2017 09:24 PM (

Forgive me Lord I laughed at that one out loud

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 09:29 PM (ZTRlp)

377 Fking echo chamber pussy.

Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:25 PM (+kahX)

If I knew what the hell you have been babbling about I might take you more seriously, but you make so little sense that I'm just sort of bored.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:30 PM (wYseH)

378 'My fucking poncho is still at the cleaners (for obvious reasons. giggity) .... '


A night to remember

Posted by: Camarillo Brillo at July 27, 2017 09:30 PM (BO/km)

379 371 we send a truckload full of money and weapons to the Kurds.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 09:23 PM (evw2O)

Bingo.

I'm in.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:28 PM (wYseH)

That better be one huge friggin' truck.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:30 PM (ebb11)

380 Posted by: bergerbilder at July 27, 2017 09:26 PM (lIZQs)

Could it be that you have a newsletter?

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 27, 2017 09:31 PM (gwPgz)

381 I saw the Echo Chamber Pussies.

No opener, they were the main act.

Good show.

(Hot bassist)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 09:31 PM (hcyUh)

382 This civil war we're going to have -- any idea what the color the uniforms will be?

---

Won't be uniforms. It will be arm bands. But you can't trust anyone just because they are wearing the right color arm band.

You need recognition codes. But you can't trust anyone who gives the proper response when challenged. Codes can be compromised.

Even the people known to you can be turned. If they disappear for a few days, they might have been captured and turned.


Posted by: Nonplussed in Pokepshie at July 27, 2017 09:31 PM (m9X4Y)

383 OT - House approves border wall funding.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 27, 2017 09:32 PM (tbOMB)

384 382.

TL; DR - shoot all the things

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:32 PM (fA1SL)

385 Squint squint blink
Squint squint squint
Squint squint squint
Squint blink squint
Blink blink blink

Posted by: FireHorse at July 27, 2017 09:32 PM (zkGZ8)

386 That better be one huge friggin' truck.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:30 PM (ebb11)

You use a helicopter? Airlift the cash in on pallettes? Hellooooo? Amateurs?

Posted by: His JEFness at July 27, 2017 09:33 PM (hcyUh)

387 377 Fking echo chamber pussy.

Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:25 PM (+kahX)

If I knew what the hell you have been babbling about I might take you more seriously, but you make so little sense that I'm just sort of bored.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:30 PM (wYseH)

Let me help you a little more. Never, ever get sideways with Poppy Bush or your ass is grass. Trump's ass is grass. He should have never gone after Poppy's boy.

Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:33 PM (+kahX)

388 386.

Silly! That's not what rotary wing assets are for. - A. Pinochet

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:34 PM (fA1SL)

389 Scaramucci likes Twitter too like the Boss
https://twitter.com/Scaramuuci/status/890356631913070592

Posted by: andycanuck at July 27, 2017 09:34 PM (nlbfN)

390 383 OT - House approves border wall funding.

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Breaking news Susan Fuck Face Collins says no way Jose. The fat bitch from AK concurs in Eskimoese

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 27, 2017 09:34 PM (ZTRlp)

391 353 This civil war we're going to have -- any idea what the color the uniforms will be?
Posted by: FireHorse at July 27, 2017 09:23 PM (zkGZ

Jeffersonians? whatever works....

Status Quo'ers? Pink, Paisley, and sharply pressed trousers...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 27, 2017 09:34 PM (NgKpN)

392 387 377 Fking echo chamber pussy.

Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:25 PM (+kahX)

If I knew what the hell you have been babbling about I might take you more seriously, but you make so little sense that I'm just sort of bored.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:30 PM (wYseH)

Let me help you a little more. Never, ever get sideways with Poppy Bush or your ass is grass. Trump's ass is grass. He should have never gone after Poppy's boy.
Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:33 PM (+kahX)

Bill? Mr. Wynn, is that you?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:34 PM (ebb11)

393 He should have never gone after Poppy's boy.

Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:33 PM (+kahX)

Still not making much sense.

Try harder!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:36 PM (wYseH)

394 Let me help you a little more. Never, ever get sideways with Poppy Bush or your ass is grass. Trump's ass is grass. He should have never gone after Poppy's boy.
Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:33 PM (+kahX)

Yeah... because after taking down the Clinton's... who took down the Busheys....

Poppy Bush is a real threat....

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q. at July 27, 2017 09:36 PM (NgKpN)

395 Won't be uniforms. It will be arm bands. But you can't trust anyone just because they are wearing the right color arm band.

You people have never watched The Dirty Dozen, have you ?

This is such a bad friggin' idea.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 09:36 PM (fiGNd)

396
Let me help you a little more. Never, ever get sideways with Poppy Bush or your ass is grass. Trump's ass is grass. He should have never gone after Poppy's boy.

Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:33 PM (+kahX)



Please clap

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 27, 2017 09:36 PM (auHtY)

397

Dude. I live in Houston

Poppy Bush is in no position or shape to take on anyone

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 09:37 PM (hh7FY)

398 389
Scaramucci likes Twitter too like the Boss
https://twitter.com/Scaramuuci/status/890356631913070592


Posted by: andycanuck at July 27, 2017 09:34 PM (nlbfN)

No blue check mark, but funny.

TGP saying Scaramuccito fire 3-4 more leakers tomorrow.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 27, 2017 09:37 PM (tbOMB)

399 OT: Larry David and Bernie Sanders are related.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 27, 2017 09:38 PM (/qEW2)

400

Harvey said Iraq would be a shit show without Saddam

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 09:38 PM (hh7FY)

401 Charley Horse there is to be thanked, congratulated, amd honored for bringing Larouchian-level batshit to this, our humble blog.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:38 PM (fA1SL)

402 Still not making much sense.

Try harder!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2017 09:36 PM (wYseH)

Excuse me sir, I speak choksondick.

Posted by: Barbara Billingsley at July 27, 2017 09:39 PM (tbOMB)

403 Yeah... because after taking down the Clinton's... who took down the Busheys....
Poppy Bush is a real threat....
/facepalm
Posted by: Don Q. at July 27, 2017 09:36 PM (NgKpN)

Hahaha...too funny. Is Poppy Bush related in any ways to the Jeb!

Jeb! 2020.......and this time it's for real.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2017 09:39 PM (5VlCp)

404 FireHorse -I garundoubletee ya it isn't going to be pants dragging down around your ass and your underware hanging out.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 27, 2017 09:39 PM (evw2O)

405 385 Squint squint blink
Squint squint squint
Squint squint squint
Squint blink squint
Blink blink blink

Posted by: FireHorse at July 27, 2017 09:32 PM (zkGZ


It that the Horde's recognition signal?

Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 09:40 PM (sdi6R)

406 That's a parody account, but I really wish it were real. I bet it's the SeanSpicier guy.

Posted by: sunny-dee at July 27, 2017 09:40 PM (QAOZh)

407 Ace retweeted it, flounder, but maybe it's a Spicier-like parody because 'scaramucci' is misspelled in the handle. Still, pretty funny.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 27, 2017 09:40 PM (nlbfN)

408 Posted by: FireHorse at July 27, 2017 09:32 PM (zkGZ

It that the Horde's recognition signal?
Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 09:40 PM (sdi6R)

I think he's trying to talk to Juan McCain.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:40 PM (ebb11)

409 Flash. You can oppose something, but realize it's done and move on.

Oh, and where's Obama's birth certificate?

As a well known skeevy harpy harridan sweathog in a muumuu once said, 'What difference does it make?"

Posted by: Bobby Ahr at July 27, 2017 09:41 PM (zmZ2x)

410 Mattis, in particular, had strong disagreements with Harvey.

I don't want to play devil's advocate but I trust Mattis's judgment.

Posted by: Jim S. at July 27, 2017 09:41 PM (ynUnH)

411 It that the Horde's recognition signal?

Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 09:40 PM (sdi6R)

I move to make it a muldoon limerick.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 27, 2017 09:41 PM (tbOMB)

412 Harvey said Iraq would be a shit show without Saddam

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 09:38 PM (hh7FY)


Well Iraq was a shit show with Saddam. So not sure if this means something good or bad.

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 09:42 PM (jHrzU)

413

Poppy Bush, bless him, cant sit up or walk, broke his neck getting out of bed, is constantly struggling with pnuemonia


Hes not orchestrating anything other than what delightful socks to wear

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 09:42 PM (hh7FY)

414 And then the FIRE TRUCKS with the mind control spray, and the dogs come out, and then, and then, Because Nixon, all those people over there got the, but BUSH LIED PEOPLE D-- and then the fascists Though you know my father was there and DON"T YOU TALK ABOUT MAH DADDY! Can I get another? But like I was sayin', you don't know about what's REALLY going on in the Middle *BARF*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 09:42 PM (hcyUh)

415 Dude. I live in Houston

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 09:37 PM (hh7FY)


Well ... shit.

I travel there all the time. Always into Hobby. Working the refineries. I love Kema.

Hi !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 09:42 PM (fiGNd)

416 44 "Even though President Trump asked McMaster to fire the individuals on the list, the NSC chief refused the president's directives to get rid of the Obama holdovers."

So maybe Trump could step in and rehire Harvey and fire McMasters (in the same sentence) and further add, "When I make a suggestion, it's not really a suggestion; and when I make a request, that's a GD order!"
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 27, 2017 08:02 PM (H8S+R)

In the military, a 'request' or 'suggestion' by a superior officer is considered a direct order. Thus McMasters did in fact disobey a direct order.

Posted by: Cardinal Cool J at July 27, 2017 09:43 PM (k6kXg)

417 Can I just blink in the affirmative ?

Posted by: John McCain at July 27, 2017 09:24 PM (fiGNd)

====


CAN I JUTHT BLANK IN THE AFFIRMA TIEV?

Posted by: Miss Lindsey with McCain's hand up his ass at July 27, 2017 09:44 PM (2wRtc)

418 Charley Horse there is to be thanked, congratulated, amd honored for bringing Larouchian-level batshit to this, our humble blog.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:38 PM (fA1SL)


Hey ... piss up a rope. I'm still here. And I don't need help.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 09:44 PM (fiGNd)

419 Thus McMasters did in fact disobey a direct order.

Posted by: Cardinal Cool J at July 27, 2017 09:43 PM (k6kXg)


In fact?

Can someone show me some sourcing on this?

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 09:44 PM (jHrzU)

420 Wait, the fix is in as to PDT's money laundering? I am not on here much, but did I miss something? Seems like a gigantic leap.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 27, 2017 09:45 PM (PUmDY)

421 ".....Can I get another? But like I was sayin', you don't know about what's REALLY going on in the Middle *BARF*"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 09:42 PM (hcyUh)

Dad?

Posted by: charley horse at July 27, 2017 09:45 PM (wYseH)

422 "Do you really oppose the Iran deal, or do you oppose it like Lisa Murkowski opposes Obamacare?"

Sen. Corker's Kabuki Theatre answered that question for all time. Establishment Washington, which is basically all of the Democrats and the vast majority of Republicans, was full on board with this clusterfuck.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 27, 2017 09:45 PM (HTsYh)

423 I voted for the guy who had no trouble telling people "You're Fired!"

Wonder what happened to him!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 27, 2017 09:45 PM (gwPgz)

424 Well Iraq was a shit show with Saddam. So not sure if this means something good or bad.

Posted by: blaster


It was less shittier with Saddam, though. More secular (women could work, didn't have to dress in garbage bags, etc.). Less terror attacks. No chance ISIS could have caused so much havoc for so long if he were still in power. The region was more stable.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 27, 2017 09:46 PM (/qEW2)

425 418. Dude.....you're like William Cooper-meets-Hunter S. Thompson - channelled by Dennis Hopper tripping balls on three sheets of windowpane with a speedball chaser to keep him level. You're leagues ahead of him.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:47 PM (fA1SL)

426 Wonder what happened to him!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 27, 2017 09:45 PM (gwPgz)

He's never had to deal with a "confirmation hearing" before, outside of a relatively pliant Board (half of whom he sired)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 09:48 PM (hcyUh)

427 425 418. Dude.....you're like William Cooper-meets-Hunter S. Thompson - channelled by Dennis Hopper tripping balls on three sheets of windowpane with a speedball chaser to keep him level. You're leagues ahead of him.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:47 PM (fA1SL)

We were just outside of Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 27, 2017 09:48 PM (0mRoj)

428 Warai-otoko @414 --

It all goes back to when Senator McCarthy was on the House Un-American Activities Committee.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 27, 2017 09:48 PM (zkGZ8)

429 Echo Chamber Pussy is opening for Hole this weekend at Hara Arena.

Can't make it.

Posted by: Guy what knows all the concerts but is to busy to see them at July 27, 2017 09:49 PM (4bjXi)

430 If I could remember where I put my mechanical grabber, I'd give you such a pinch!

Posted by: Poppy Bush at July 27, 2017 09:49 PM (O5U4s)

431 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:47 PM (fA1SL)

Just quit it. You ain't gonna' make me cry.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 27, 2017 09:50 PM (fiGNd)

432 Come an' git it!

Posted by: ONT at July 27, 2017 09:50 PM (/qEW2)

433 Ont

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 27, 2017 09:50 PM (fA1SL)

434 429
Echo Chamber Pussy is opening for Hole this weekend at Hara Arena.



Can't make it.

Posted by: Guy what knows all the concerts but is to busy to see them at July 27, 2017 09:49 PM (4bjXi)

I saw them with Pussy Riot. Couldn't get a word in edgewise. Sammiches were meh.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 27, 2017 09:50 PM (tbOMB)

435 nood, that is

Posted by: ONT at July 27, 2017 09:50 PM (/qEW2)

436 381 I saw the Echo Chamber Pussies.

No opener, they were the main act.

Good show.

(Hot bassist)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 09:31 PM (hcyUh)



Really?

I figured the Echo Chamber Pussies would be Lena Dunham, Sandra Fluke, and Rosie O'Donnel.

Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2017 09:51 PM (z/Ubi)

437 419 Thus McMasters did in fact disobey a direct order.

Posted by: Cardinal Cool J at July 27, 2017 09:43 PM (k6kXg)

In fact?

Can someone show me some sourcing on this?

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2017 09:44 PM (jHrzU)

It was taught in Marine Corps bootcamp. They made a big deal about it at the time. I'll see if I can find something.

Posted by: Cardinal Cool J at July 27, 2017 09:51 PM (k6kXg)

438 424
It was less shittier with Saddam, though. More secular (women could work, didn't have to dress in garbage bags, etc.). Less terror attacks. No chance ISIS could have caused so much havoc for so long if he were still in power. The region was more stable.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 27, 2017 09:46 PM (/qEW2)


I thought it was worth a try to bring democratic government to the Middle East, as opposed to glassing them right away.

But it didn't work, and maybe the best form of government for those countries is a secular dictator that is favorable to the West. Because the alternatives are MoBro and ISIS types.

I don't really give a shit about their human rights. Not my problem.

Posted by: rickl at July 27, 2017 09:51 PM (sdi6R)

439 Mattis, in particular, had strong disagreements with Harvey.

I don't want to play devil's advocate but I trust Mattis's judgment.
Posted by: Jim S. at July 27, 2017 09:41 PM (ynUnH)


Strong men always have disagreements and pissing matches. But for the sake of the country, come on, guys, this about way more than who has the longest dick.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 27, 2017 09:51 PM (lIZQs)

440 It all goes back to when Senator McCarthy was on the House Un-American Activities Committee.
Posted by: FireHorse at July 27, 2017 09:48 PM (zkGZ

I have a great-uncle who signed up for that committee and was severely disappointed.

He wanted to play Bocce and Kendo with the other Senators, but got stuck listening to a bunch of geezers ramble on about communists.

Raw Deal man.

True story.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 09:52 PM (hcyUh)

441 430

What's this? I got your nose!

Posted by: Trilateral Bilderburg Illuminati III at July 27, 2017 09:53 PM (4bjXi)

442 Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 27, 2017 09:45 PM (HTsYh)

"Sen. Corker's Kabuki Theatre" was yet another confirmation of the putrid nature of the swamp denizens, and the fact that it was so blithely accepted was the piece de resistance which basically went unnoticed!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 27, 2017 09:53 PM (gwPgz)

443

Why Hello Scoggie

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 09:53 PM (hh7FY)

444

That mechanical grabber riff is hilarious

Posted by: ThunderB at July 27, 2017 09:54 PM (hh7FY)

445 The Mooch is gone within the week, as I said on an earlier thread to the derision of other posters.

The new head of WH communications burned himself by going on record with Lizza at The New Yorker, of all places, with his personal vendetta with Priebus and Bannon.

Don't forget that he made a false accusation that his financials were leaked.

Like I said, Mooch is a self-aggrandizing prick which is why the rest of the inner Trump circle didn't want him in.

"Mr President, does Steve Bannon still suck his own cock?"

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 27, 2017 09:54 PM (pV/54)

446 Nood

Posted by: Tonypete at July 27, 2017 09:55 PM (8O97s)

447 Nope, Obama loyalists and sympathizers have got to go, every one of them, and if that includes Mattis and McMaster, so be it.

Surprising, but then these times are full of surprises as people reveal their true colors.

G'night everybody !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 27, 2017 09:55 PM (Mcvvl)

448 Posted by: Ignoramus at July 27, 2017 09:54 PM (pV/54)

Eh. You're probably right.

I like the idea of a vulgar, asinine flame-thrower in his position, but behind the dick swinging mayhem must reside a certain calm, methodical manner that remains hidden from the adversary.

Just shootin' your mouth off isn't really a strategy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 09:57 PM (hcyUh)

449 BSG I believe you know how many gallons of water are in Lusk Reservoir. And I think your YG and McMaster's are pretty close....

---

WTF is a YG?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 27, 2017 09:59 PM (z79tQ)

450 2) F'in right the Brewers are in 1st! Enjoying this while I can.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 27, 2017 09:03 PM (ebb11)

Er, you're reminded me to do an update. The Crew isn't in first anymore. Lost a game we should have won last night due to shitty BP management (yeah, take out the kid who struck out friggin' Bryce Harper and put in a guy who gives up 4 runs) and today's game was painful.

Not the end of the world yet, but right now grammie's Cubs are No. 1.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V : The Brewers: we're No.2 - especially our bullpen! at July 27, 2017 10:04 PM (P8951)

451 Year
Group

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 27, 2017 10:12 PM (RrhD2)

452 I recently retired from the Air Force. IMO, Mattis is a fine officer and a fighter, but he's at bottom a jarhead: "hey diddle, diddle, right up the middle." Yes, he believes that if we are to apply violence, we should supply it unsparingly, in spades, no hold barred. Fine. And yes, he is well-read. But he is, at bottom, a jarhead. Not all that imaginative as to alternative uses of military power, other than "hey, diddle, diddle,....."

His will be an interesting tenure.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2017 10:14 PM (v5uOx)

453 Jesus H. Christ. When is the leadership of this country and the leadership of the World going to realize that there are only two paths to victory in the Middle East.

1. Kill everything, ASAP.

2. Send in an occupying force, including civilians, colonize, and annex all captured territory. Kill everything.

Commit or get out. Kill everything or get out. Stop fucking around.

Posted by: Fritz at July 27, 2017 10:18 PM (eLttb)

454 I hope our uniforms are not that flame retardant crap. Natural cotton or a blend is best, and don't forget to order trousers 3 inches long.

Posted by: Eromero at July 27, 2017 10:26 PM (zLDYs)

455

So Hannitty says that the Mooch says he thought he was off the record. So Mooch was a leaker.

Read the article. Mooch leaked that Priebus would soon be shit canned.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 27, 2017 10:05 PM (pV/54)
***************************

What the hell has Michelle Obama got to do with any of this?

Posted by: gNewt at July 27, 2017 10:45 PM (tm6wE)

456 This is the wrong thread. How the hell did I get here?
Well----------

Posted by: gNewt at July 27, 2017 10:48 PM (tm6wE)

457 Last!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2017 11:02 PM (hcyUh)

458 Posted by: Anonymous at July 27, 2017 10:14 PM (v5uOx)

If you knew as much about the AF as you know of Marines, it took you too long to retire, fuckass.

Posted by: McLurkerson at July 27, 2017 11:14 PM (35/F6)

459 Sounds to me like Trump needs to fire McMaster.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 28, 2017 03:25 AM (mpXpK)

460 There are two (2) people Trump should have hired (even begged to come on board), Newt Gingrich and John Bolton.
New Gingrich is a heck of a good organizer and idea man. Bolton is a pure conservative and knows the State Dept. Bolton was the absolute best pick to "Drain the Swamp" for Trump. The Swamp IS "Foggy Bottom", the US State Dept.
Trump screwed up big time when he did not hire Newt and John. Now, it might be too late. I'm all for Trump, but Trump has to do a better job of selecting staff, stopping leaks, draining the swamp. America is counting on Trump and if he screws up, his name will be "mudd" forever!
Trump, Hire Newt Gingrich and John Bolton.

Posted by: Tom Johnson at July 28, 2017 06:51 AM (uNXCo)

461 Great rant, Ace.

I'm glad you woke up and smelled the coffee.

Back in the day, when you first began this 'blog', I said similar things about the DC establishment Pubbies...and you - and all of your Morons - hammered me for it. Later, you included a special 'thread' with my real name on it, so the entire internet could have a go. Slander, libel, smear. besmirch, etc., etc.

Your Morons followed me all over the internet after that one.

Welcome to the real world.

Posted by: The Hot Gates at July 28, 2017 10:16 AM (k3uSs)

462 I'm wondering: Who appointed McMaster? Isn't the Obama-created mess being perpetuated by this PC-addled, cueball-headed, stuffed-shirt, puffed-up military bureaucrat really the fault of the game show host who appointed him?

If Trump really cared about standing up to Iran, he would have fired McMaster by now.

Posted by: djf at July 28, 2017 01:50 PM (E7tOO)

463 I'm pissed that Trump keeps hiring liberal globalists for his administration, not that liberal globalists are acting like liberal globalists. You see what I did there? I placed the blame on Trump, because he's supposed to be able to hire people that will execute his will. His is not a victim of his bad hiring decisions, unless he wants to be. You can't say that Trumps agenda was derailed by his traitorous staff, poor Trump. We elected him because we believed that he could hire good people who would enact his policies. What happened, Trump? Stop messing up and fix it.

Posted by: Immolate at July 28, 2017 02:12 PM (a1oE7)

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