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McConnell's Next Mysterious Obamacare Gambit: A "Skinny" Repeal of Just the Least Popular Parts of Obamacare?

It's not nothing, but it does seem to be very low-cal and unsatisfying substitute for what we were promised.


Republican senators are planning to pursue a "skinny" repeal of Obamacare if Tuesday's Senate votes to open debate on health care and pass the current GOP bill both fail.

The so-called "skinny" repeal would be a series of amendments to dispose of a few key components of the Affordable Care Act that Republicans have identified as being particularly burdensome, NBC News reports.

The first vote on Tuesday will be to open debate on the health care measure. Should that "motion to proceed" pass, the Senate will debate and vote on multiple approaches to the current health care bill.

...

The Senate would then move to vote on the current Senate replacement bill, the Better Care Reconciliation Act. However, the BCRA includes newly added amendments from Sen. Ted Cruz (R, Texas) and Sen. Rob Portman (R, Ohio) that have not been scored by the Congressional Budget Office and would likely need 60 votes, rather than a simple majority of 50, to pass.

McCain's headed to Washington, and Mike Pence is standing by to break ties, for these votes.

But the #FakeNewsRepublicans -- Collins, Murfluvsky, and Caputo -- have already vowed they won't pass any kind of repeal without a "replacement." In other words, they just want to keep Obamacare.

Protesters have delayed the beginning of the vote, chanting "Kill the bill, don't kill us."

#FakeNewsRepublicans Lisa Muffzinsky and Susan Collins have re-announced they will fight to keep Obamacare. If any other #FakeNewsRepublicans defect, they can't even have a debate on the question.

Posted by: Ace at 02:20 PM




Comments

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1 Does anyone know how this will affect gays and Lesbians ???

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 25, 2017 02:30 PM (WmgTn)

2 Let's Repeal congress itself.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (DQ4Fv)

3 Those two bints need to be primaried and sent out to pasture.

Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (a0IVu)

4 1 Does anyone know how this will affect gays and Lesbians ???
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien


AIDS was caused by Reagan not mentioning AIDS in a speech in 1983!!!!

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (DQ4Fv)

5 Good.
Fine.
Do something. Take the beast down with a thousand cuts if need be.
And when the sky doesn't fall you and the dead don't start shambling through the streets you can go back and repeal another stretch.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (hLRSq)

6 I want a half-decaf Vente repeal.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (DQ4Fv)

7 But the #FakeNewsRepublicans -- Collins, Murfluvsky, and Caputo -- have already vowed they won't pass any kind of repeal without a "replacement." In other words, they just want to keep Obamacare.

Its obvious that their states will not remove these worthless piles of trash so what can the GOP do in congress about them? Do they really need to be in any committee of singificance? Do they really need to be given any kind of position or power? Do they really deserve any money at all in any campaigns? I mean there are ways to make people toe the line better, why aren't they being used? There is leverage that can be applied.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (39g3+)

8 I want a half-decaf Vente repeal."

With sprinkles.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (MINbv)

9 Collins, Murfluvsky

Cuckettes

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (ul9CR)

10 Second look at sending blankets filled with smallpox to every SJW???

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (DQ4Fv)

11 If you can't get a Republican to just repeal a few parts of ObamaCare, they might as well be replaced with Democrats.

If I lived in one of those states, I could see myself voting for the Democrat candidate.

We know they won't be beat in their respective primaries.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 02:33 PM (LHzKO)

12 Those two bints need to be primaried and sent out to pasture.
Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 02:31 PM (a0IVu)

Holdning my tongue

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 02:34 PM (5y11N)

13
The closest thing that there is to immortality is a government bureaucracy. Especially since politicians feed from the trough of same.

Anything that reduces the size of the government and devolves power back to the people is axiomatically an enemy of the government - regardless of political party.

If this is not evident by now, then you (the royal you) are not paying attention.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:34 PM (mbhDw)

14 McKonehead can't get the job done because of all the RINOs and DIABLOS. Need to get rid of some of them in the primaries.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:34 PM (mpXpK)

15 C*cksuckers. The lot of them.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:34 PM (mcI77)

16 So, if this idea ever gets passed, liberals will be more pissed than ever, and little will actually change?

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:34 PM (3myMJ)

17 It's unbelievable these 2 scrunts won't even vote to allow a bill to be debated.

That is pretty much the job description of a Senator.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (/tuJf)

18 Not to be all sexist, but I don't trust female Republicans.

They always seem to be pulled leftward.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (LHzKO)

19 your choices:

socialism quickly (D)
socialism gradually (R)

Posted by: brak at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (5iU/N)

20 AIDS was caused by Reagan not mentioning AIDS in a speech in 1983!!!!

That's because he was too preoccupied with the CIA plan to invent crack and put it in the ghetto!

Posted by: tu3031 at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (qJhUV)

21 Protesters have delayed the beginning of the vote, chanting "Kill the bill, don't kill us."


That's what they make capital hill police for. They need to dish out some hickory hair cuts.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (mpXpK)

22 19 your choices:

socialism quickly (D)
socialism gradually (R)
Posted by: brak at July 25, 2017 02:35 PM (5iU/N)


There is another choice but decorum prohibits me from elucidating.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (mbhDw)

23 Repeal something, even if it's not everything. Momentum will help you go after other parts.

And let the traitors show their true colors.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (fKWf6)

24 I've had it with our so-called representatives.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (0mRoj)

25 I don't want tofu that tastes like steak.

I want a freakin' STEAK.

And a baked potato. Lots of sour cream too.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (RD7QR)

26 But the #FakeNewsRepublicans -- Collins, Murfluvsky, and Caputo -- have already vowed they won't pass any kind of repeal without a "replacement." In other words, they just want to keep Obamacare.

This isn't any sort of repeal, anyway, so they shouldn't have a problem with this.

And for those who were screaming about how this was a real repeal because it was "only phase 1" ... LOL. What sort of idiot thinks that there could ever possibly be a phase 2 to this bullshit?

BarkyCare is an affront to the Constitution and to America. It needs to be totally removed and burned to a crisp. The Senate needs to nuke the filibuster for BarkyCare's ACTUAL repeal and just undo the whole friggin anti-American, retarded, commie POS.

What they are straining to do, now, is just bullshit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (rZ+mb)

27 I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them -- sitting at the head of the table in my Skull Throne, and gesturing grandly, talking through my Darth Vader Voice Simulator by Mattel, "This one dies. This one lives. So shall it be."

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (DQ4Fv)

28 Those two bints need to be primaried and sent out to pasture.
===============
Indict, perp walk, federal penitentiary.

Posted by: Attorney General Darth Tits at July 25, 2017 02:37 PM (C6xeQ)

29 McCain waiting to make his dramatic entrance back into the well of the Senate to cast the final vote.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:37 PM (G0vdT)

30 Good.
Fine.
Do something. Take the beast down with a thousand cuts if need be.
And when the sky doesn't fall you and the dead don't start shambling through the streets you can go back and repeal another stretch.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Find the Dark Linings in the Silver Clouds at the Outrage Outlet! at July 25, 2017 02:32 PM (hLRSq)



I was just going to say, sorry to destroy what little HQ cred I have but when we keep screaming do something, well, we have to be supportive when something is done, even if it is not everything we would like it to be.

Is it everything? No. But it is something and good on the Senate for doing at least that.

The Horde is welcome to throw this in my face when this turns out to be all that's done and it blows up Yellowstone caldera style.


But the #FakeNewsRepublicans -- Collins, Murfluvsky, and Caputo -- have already vowed they won't pass any kind of repeal without a "replacement." In other words, they just want to keep Obamacare.


I read an article by Roger L. Simon (the good one) about the Senators holding up doing anything on Obamacare and it was fascinating because he was all butthurt about how the people holding up everything were Cruz and Paul and Lee and how the reasonable ones in the Senate wanted to work to get a replacement passed. It was very interesting to read an exactly opposite perception from mine.

It was also a good reminder that there are many people on "our side" who do favor a replacement approach and that, hey, maybe both sides need to compromise a bit.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at July 25, 2017 02:37 PM (mf5HN)

31 Does anyone know how this will affect gays and Lesbians ???

If Obamacare is repealed they'll live happier, healthier lives.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 25, 2017 02:37 PM (IZPn8)

32
Murkowsky and Collins need to visit Charlie Gard and his parents.

Or have Malach ha Mawis visit them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:38 PM (mbhDw)

33
Overlord Kabuki Mcshubuki Bukakke doesn't even buy it. They will protect the govt leviathan at all costs.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 02:38 PM (r+sAi)

34 I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them
-- sitting at the head of the table in my Skull Throne, and gesturing
grandly, talking through my Darth Vader Voice Simulator by Mattel, "This one dies. This one lives. So shall it be."

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (DQ4Fv)


*Note to self: get on zombie's good side*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 02:38 PM (PY9jH)

35 Not to be all sexist, but I don't trust female Republicans.

They always seem to be pulled leftward.
Posted by: publix



By their mish. Always about the feelz.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:39 PM (Bd48Y)

36 27 I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them -- sitting at the head of the table in my Skull Throne, and gesturing grandly, talking through my Darth Vader Voice Simulator by Mattel, "This one dies. This one lives. So shall it be."
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (DQ4Fv)

Uhhhhhh, cookie, oh Grand Undead One?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 02:39 PM (RD7QR)

37 Two Scoops shamed the senate by bringing in real Americans whose CHILDREN are suffering due to ACA

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 02:40 PM (g+Dix)

38 35 Not to be all sexist, but I don't trust female Republicans.

They always seem to be pulled leftward.
Posted by: publix



By their mish. Always about the feelz.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:39 PM (Bd48Y)


Joni Ernst, Renee Ellmers.... Palin?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:40 PM (mbhDw)

39 Is around now when we all thought we'd be tired of winning?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 02:40 PM (UCap9)

40 And the Republican Party goes the way of the Whigs....

You see... historically, the Whigs were one of the two dominant parties, but did not listen to their Base on a very important issue...

They were replaced as a party, within a very few years... using 1850's technology...

How much faster can we do it today?

Posted by: Don Quixote at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (NgKpN)

41 36 27 I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them -- sitting at the head of the table in my Skull Throne, and gesturing grandly, talking through my Darth Vader Voice Simulator by Mattel, "This one dies. This one lives. So shall it be."
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (DQ4Fv)

Uhhhhhh, cookie, oh Grand Undead One?
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 02:39 PM (RD7QR)


Will Abi Wilkinson please pick up the green courtesy grenade?....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (mbhDw)

42 Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, on Tuesday was caught on a hot mic
insulting Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, by calling him "so
unattractive, it's unbelievable" after Farenthold blamed Collins for the
GOP's failed efforts to repeal and replace Obamacare.



So much for committee in the senate.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (mpXpK)

43 Joni Ernst, Renee Ellmers.... Palin?




What has Palin voted on lately?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (Bd48Y)

44 Has anyone actually listened to Collins answer a question from reporters lately? She sounds like a washed up cigarette laden Hollywood actress, complete with raspy , shaky voice that shakes along with her head.

She's been in the Senate since 1997. She has been a strong supporter of the Democrats on almost every issue. And it shocks me she is only 64.

At some point, voters need to take into account their representatives actual physical and mental deficiencies.
I wouldn't trust Collins to be able to under stand the directions on a can of cat food.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (FggK5)

45 Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (DQ4Fv)

*Note to self: get on zombie's good side*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 02:38 PM (PY9jH)


Daria wouldn't hurt nobody.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (Niu5G)

46 the #FakeNewsRepublicans -- Collins

-
Didja see Collins' open mike moment?

"'I swear, [the Office of Management and Budget] just went through and whenever there was 'grant,' they just X it out, ' Collins says. 'With no measurement, no thinking about it, no metrics, no nothing. It's just incredibly irresponsible.'

"'Yes, ' Reed replies. 'I think - I think he's crazy,' apparently referring to the president. 'I mean, I don't say that lightly and as a kind of a goofy guy.'

"'I'm worried,' Collins replies."

Yeah, boy. Cutting spending is coo coo bananas.

The "Reed" in question is Donk Senator Jack Reed.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (Nwg0u)

47 Still not tired of winning.

Hillary would already have the names and addresses of everyone commenting on this site. And we would all be receiving notices of IRS audits for MANY prior years.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:42 PM (C6xeQ)

48 Colon Malignancy voted against proceeding.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 25, 2017 02:42 PM (tbOMB)

49 Jeebus. My Senator, Johnson, is on of the hold outs on the vote. He's suppose to be a conservative. He better vote yes.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:42 PM (G0vdT)

50 29 McCain waiting to make his dramatic entrance back into the well of the Senate to cast the final vote.



Is his fat daughter still on FNC?

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:42 PM (mcI77)

51 Step Right Up
by Tom Waits

Step right up, step right up, step right up,
Everyone's a winner, bargains galore
Insurance plans in all colors, one size fits all
No muss, no fuss, no spills, you're tired of dying in the emergency room
Fifty percent off original price, skip the middle man
Don't settle for less
How do we do it? how do we do it? Volume, volume, turn up the volume
Now you've heard it advertised, don't hesitate
Don't be caught with your drawers down,
Don't be caught with your drawers down
You can step right up, step right up

That's right, Obamacare filets, it chops, it dices, slices,
Never stops, lasts a lifetime, mows your lawn
And it mows your lawn and it picks up the kids from school
It gets rid of unwanted facial hair, it gets rid of embarrassing age spots,
It delivers a pizza, and it lengthens, and it strengthens
And it finds that slipper that's been at large
under the chaise lounge for several weeks
And it plays a mean Rhythm Master,
It makes excuses for unwanted lipstick on your collar
And it's only a dollar, step right up, it's only a dollar, step right up.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (DQ4Fv)

52 "McCain's headed to Washington."

ISWYDT

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (tbOMB)

53 38 Joni Ernst, Renee Ellmers.... Palin?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:40 PM (mbhDw)


Palin has been a consistent conservative. The other two not so much. especially Scrunt Collins.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (mpXpK)

54 If the two scrunts won't go for this - they aint going for full repeal.

Posted by: reality man at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (xOBRH)

55 49 Jeebus. My Senator, Johnson, is on of the hold outs on the vote. He's suppose to be a conservative. He better vote yes.
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:42 PM (G0vdT)


He's an untrustworthy dickweed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (mbhDw)

56 Do something. Take the beast down with a thousand cuts if need be.


I agree with this, at least take one step toward getting rid of it. Trump did so instantly upon taking office: no more penalty for not signing up. GOP has to get on the ball here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (39g3+)

57
The repubs can barely pass (or not) a proceed to debate vote when they have all the majorities and people believe they are going to pass an actual bill?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2017 02:44 PM (r+sAi)

58 The young lady on the Senate floor in a miniskirt looks very out of place.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:44 PM (3myMJ)

59 52 "McCain's headed to Washington."

ISWYDT
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (tbOMB)


My friendzh, you have nothing to fear with Benedict Arnold in your Army.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:44 PM (mbhDw)

60 Hillary would already have the names and addresses of everyone commenting on this site. And we would all be receiving notices of IRS audits for MANY prior years.

Ace would probably be in police custody. I'm not even joking.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:44 PM (39g3+)

61 Kill the bill, don't kill us...

I would have replied

"well yes, we are trying to kill the Obamacare bill, if it goes further, it'll do to you what the state did to Charlie Gard."

Posted by: reality man at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (xOBRH)

62 The plan after those two votes is for senators to proceed to votes on a series of amendments to create what leadership has called a "skinny" repeal, which is a watered-down version of repeal with nothing to replace it. The goal would be to eliminate Obamacare's individual mandate penalty, the employer mandate penalty, and the tax on medical devices. A broader repeal would also have ended Medicaid's expansion, get rid of or replace the Obamacare subsidies that help people purchase insurance and repeal more - or all - of Obamacare's taxes.

++++

That isn't as much as we had hoped for, but if the skinny repeal passes, that would still be an improvement.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (pvjTE)

63 Make'em vote and then release the votes publically on every outlet repeatedly (b/c most folks are too lazy to click on the Senate webpage where the votes are tallied) and remove them from all committees until they change parties and then vote their asses out. I just dropped an email to my senators (one is a gimmedat, the other a Repub) stating that I'm voting for their opponents in the upcoming election cycle... Enough of this nonsense, you fuckers work for me on my behalf not the other way around. Kiss my everloving ass...

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (lwKRt)

64 He's an untrustworthy dickweed.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (mbhDw)


What in the Hell did I ever do to you ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (Niu5G)

65 socialism quickly (D)
socialism gradually (R)

-
Socialism forever!

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (Nwg0u)

66
Senator McCain?

* pulls himself back in seat and pulls 'eject' handle *

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (EgwCt)

67 Ace would probably be in police custody. I'm not even joking.
======
Nope, and the MSM would explain it as "KABOOM" terrorist website takedown.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (C6xeQ)

68 27 I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them -- sitting at the head of the table in my Skull Throne, and gesturing grandly, talking through my Darth Vader Voice Simulator by Mattel, "This one dies. This one lives. So shall it be."
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 02:36 PM (DQ4Fv)

Be careful what you wish for.... for history will Judge you....

Posted by: Pontius Pilate at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (NgKpN)

69 56 Do something. Take the beast down with a thousand cuts if need be.


I agree with this, at least take one step toward getting rid of it. Trump did so instantly upon taking office: no more penalty for not signing up. GOP has to get on the ball here.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (39g3+)


My fear is that it's just paper shuffling and bukkake-kabuki. That which the government has seized for itself will not be relinquished. Sad.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (mbhDw)

70 The young lady on the Senate floor in a miniskirt looks very out of place.
Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:44 PM (3myMJ)

Remember how Ryan was scorched for enforcing the Congressional Dress Code?

It's being revamped, just wait until the new one comes out.

Get used to seeing your Reps. in pajamas and crocs.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (FggK5)

71 Betrayal is our greatest challenge to overcome. One thing you got to say about Democrats - they don't have to worry about betrayal on their side.


What's that saying about good people losing all confidence while the craziest are full of passionate zeal. I'm sure there's a poet somewhere who could put it better.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (FJr2+)

72 64 He's an untrustworthy dickweed.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (mbhDw)

What in the Hell did I ever do to you ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (Niu5G)


Look at his voting record and ACU score.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (mbhDw)

73 @42 Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, on Tuesday was caught on a hot mic
insulting Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, by calling him "so
unattractive, it's unbelievable" after Farenthold blamed Collins for the
GOP's failed efforts to repeal and replace Obamacare.


So much for committee in the senate.
--------------------

I think the press will be conflicted on this bit of news. It's a Republican in an embarrassing open mic moment, so the gut reaction of the press will be to report it. But she's in the middle of defending one of the sacred cows of the press, so they'll also want to avoid embarrassing her.

Posted by: junior at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (Q6qiA)

74 To be fair to Republicans, what % are really getting in the way here.

I think he only have 52, so all it takes is 2 or 3 and the whole thing goes down.

Collins
Murkowsi
Capito

And the whole repeal is dead.

So if 90% are doing the right thing, I'm willing to at least give some benefit of the doubt.

We need to stop electing RINOs and filter these clowns in the primary.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (LHzKO)

75 Again with the croc hate.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (mcI77)

76 55
49 Jeebus. My Senator, Johnson, is on of the hold outs on the vote. He's suppose to be a conservative. He better vote yes.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:42 PM (G0vdT)





He's an untrustworthy dickweed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (mbhDw)


His ACU rating is only 84 so he is no conservative.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (mpXpK)

77 Get used to seeing your Reps. in pajamas and crocs.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (FggK5)
It would be like elementary schools - wear your pajama to work!

Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (a0IVu)

78 >>Has anyone actually listened to Collins answer a question from reporters lately? She sounds like a washed up cigarette laden Hollywood actress, complete with raspy , shaky voice that shakes along with her head.

She's got some speech impediment, sounded like that for a long time. She's not senile, she's a garden variety asshole.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (/tuJf)

79 69 56 Do something. Take the beast down with a thousand cuts if need be.


I agree with this, at least take one step toward getting rid of it. Trump did so instantly upon taking office: no more penalty for not signing up. GOP has to get on the ball here.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:43 PM (39g3+)


My fear is that it's just paper shuffling and bukkake-kabuki. That which the government has seized for itself will not be relinquished. Sad.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (mbhDw)

So would bukkake-kabuki involve lots of elaborately dressed Japanese actors engaging in stylized gestures and then...you know...well, use your imagination.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (RD7QR)

80 Christopher R Taylor: "...There is leverage that can be applied."

And it won't be. There's Kabuki Theater to sell.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (H8S+R)

81 Like everything else in DC, what should take 90 seconds drags on and on.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (3myMJ)

82 An Attorney General vigorously prosecuting existing anti-trust and restraint of trade laws solves 90% of the problems in our healthcare system.

Just saying...

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (AEpSb)

83 I don't understand why Trump doesn't fight dirty here. Dems want the lawl? Fine. Let them keep Obamacare but give it to them good and hard:

Impose the Cadillac tax. Don't allow it as a business expense.

Impose the taxes on medical equipment

Doc fix? Fuck that. Full steam ahead.

Impose all the fines on people without health care. max them out.

Drop all insurance company subsidies.

In short - enforce the law to the letter of the law.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (UgF8H)

84 What is this, like ordering a diet Coke to go with your triple cheese burger, extra large fries, apple pie and hot fudge sundae????

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (NOIQH)

85 Hole in the head McCain just walked in.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (8iiMU)

86 Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, on Tuesday was caught on a hot mic
insulting Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, by calling him "so
unattractive, it's unbelievable"
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Dear, do you have any mirrors in your own home?

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (C6xeQ)

87 McCain must be coming in.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (3myMJ)

88 Oh God, giving mcCain a standing ovation.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (G0vdT)

89 Susan "BUT MUH 'BORTIONS!" Collins can go do something in a very hot place.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (CMbMd)

90 Keep the bill except for the icky stuff then get blamed when Obamacare continues failing because you removed _____, and then when (R) voters give up and the (D)s are back in power they add everything back and then some. (D)s are happy, (R)s are back in their comfortable minority positions, and the only group getting f*cked is the middle class again.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (JTMqu)

91 @63 Make'em vote and then release the votes publically on every outlet repeatedly (b/c most folks are too lazy to click on the Senate webpage where the votes are tallied) and remove them from all committees until they change parties and then vote their asses out. I just dropped an email to my senators (one is a gimmedat, the other a Repub) stating that I'm voting for their opponents in the upcoming election cycle... Enough of this nonsense, you fuckers work for me on my behalf not the other way around. Kiss my everloving ass...
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I doubt being forced to switch parties would hurt Collins. Didn't Snow - the other Lady from Maine - get replaced by a Dem?

Posted by: junior at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (Q6qiA)

92 Now they got to 50 votes yes, and now the pussy Dems are voting. One voted present...

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (8iiMU)

93 McCain: aye

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (3myMJ)

94 I would hope that the home state voters for Collins, Murfluvsky, and Caputo would oblige their request for *replacement* by replacing them.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (NOIQH)

95 Whew, Johnson is a yes.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (G0vdT)

96 94 I would hope that the home state voters for Collins, Murfluvsky, and Caputo would oblige their request for *replacement* by replacing them.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (NOIQH)


I hope PDT remembers this. Especially in the next election cycle.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (mbhDw)

97
We need to stop electing RINOs and filter these clowns in the primary.





Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 02:47 PM (LHzKO)

--------------------------------------------
Did that to Murkowski without effect once already. She just ran write-in and won the general.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (SsblQ)

98 Party of no is voting.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (3myMJ)

99 Do something. Take the beast down with a thousand cuts if need be.

"A thousand cuts" ... LOL. If the GOP doesn't actually repeal this un-Constitutional POS then the best they will manage to do is two or three paper cuts, of course promising a coming thousand slashes when they finally control both houses of Congress and the Presidency ...

If they pass anything regarding BarkyCare it is only going to be one, single bill, and that's it. THey will never do anything else. So, this is it. This will be the end of anything the GOP turds ever even say about BarkyCare. This is the end of their movement on anything BarkyCare related. So, you had better be satisfied with these two paper cuts to BarkyCare (which will be immediately reversed the minute the Dems even get close to taking the House or Senate) because there will never be any other action by the Vichy GOP turds.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (rZ+mb)

100 >>I doubt being forced to switch parties would hurt Collins. Didn't Snow - the other Lady from Maine - get replaced by a Dem?

More or less. King is an Independent but he caucues with the Dems.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (/tuJf)

101 95 Whew, Johnson is a yes.
Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (G0vdT)


Vic:

84.2%

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (mbhDw)

102 >>Oh God, giving mcCain a standing ovation.

*mumbles* "....sea otter gumbo!" *mumbles*

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 02:50 PM (NOIQH)

103 Does Amazon sell dicks? Because I want to gift a bag of them to McConnell.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (mcI77)

104 Shut up, Shep.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (7uYFy)

105 You wanted: red meat
You'd settle for: chicken
You'll get: tofu

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (ifORZ)

106 Collins has an ACU rating of 23. There are Democrats with higher rating than that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (mpXpK)

107 104 Shut up, Shep.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (7uYFy)


You have a remote on the TV, no?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (mbhDw)

108 I've lost all respect for the Republican Party. Not only as politicians but as men/women, in the sense that I have contempt for anyone who refuses to fight back when the other side does nothing but play dirty.


Where is your fucking pride, if nothing else?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (FJr2+)

109 If McCain votes yes than this proves he hates persons of color, gays, and lesbians !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (WmgTn)

110 calling him "so
unattractive, it's unbelievable"
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and if someone said of Collins "2/10" or "would not bang" I am sure she would be the first to call them out for Gendered Insults, Harassment, Misogyny, and maybe Threats to boot.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (CrPLf)

111 J.J. Sefton: "Anything that reduces the size of the government and devolves power back to the people is axiomatically an enemy of the government - regardless of political party."

This cannot be repeated enough. It's why a lifelong, worldly businessman who isn't a politician strikes so much fear in the Federal system. Trump has to produce; the DC cretins merely parasitize.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (H8S+R)

112 82
An Attorney General vigorously prosecuting existing anti-trust and
restraint of trade laws solves 90% of the problems in our healthcare
system.



Just saying...

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (AEpSb)

Yeah!

*pointing at healthcare*


Posted by: MSM and Tech at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (tbOMB)

113 109 If McCain votes yes than this proves he hates persons of color, gays, and lesbians !!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (WmgTn)


Don't we all?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (mbhDw)

114 Hole in the head McCain just walked in.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 02:48 PM (8iiMU)

At least he's walking now. Eventually, he will be wheeled in, then at some point, he'll be wheeled in on a gurney. I believe the last legislation Ted Kennedy signed was only a week or two before he died.

Robert Byrd used to sit in his wheelchair in the Senate, head on his chest drooling. He would have an aid point to where he would sign his vote and he would scratch a mark on it.

You know, the Senate. A deliberative body our forefathers did not design to be elected nor to function in this manner.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 02:52 PM (FggK5)

115 McCain's symptoms include a negative affect on one's judgement. He should not be allowed to have a say on anything to do with governance.

McCain should not be allowed to have a say on anything.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (cjVcY)

116 the republican party has perfected the art of fund raising on "next year".

If they actually do what you want now, they are convinced they will get no money from you ever again. Likewise they do nothing for you and tell you they will get it done next time, but please make a payment now. The republican's are your basic contractors from hell scenario.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (Lutdd)

117 a least Collins doesnt vote like a 2/10.

she votes like a 2.3/10.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (CrPLf)

118 "I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them"

I don't have enough juice to get myself appointed to anything higher up than the Nagging Discomfort Panels.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (ujwCG)

119 I'm curious. What was the last government program to be completley, definitively killed?

Posted by: Guy who has had it at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (cOANc)

120 >>"A thousand cuts" ... LOL. If the GOP doesn't actually repeal this un-Constitutional POS then the best they will manage to do is two or three paper cuts, of course promising a coming thousand slashes when they finally control both houses of Congress and the Presidency ...

They can't completely repeal it. That has always been a lie. Even the vote they took last year which some people keep screaming for them to vote on again wasn't a complete repeal.

You can't do a full repeal using budget reconciliation. No matter how many times people keep saying they can just repeal it with 51 votes the facts don't change.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (/tuJf)

121 Now he Senate is presumably looking for Pence to break the tie.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (8iiMU)

122 Just great.

The Stupid Party is going to try to "fix" Obamacare, get their dirty fingerprints all over it, then be in a position to take the blame when it continues to suck and inevitably crashes and burns in a year or two.

Either pass a clean repeal (like you did back when you knew Obama would veto it), or leave it alone to die on it's own.

Dumb-asses.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (tu3iY)

123 So if 90% are doing the right thing, I'm willing to at least give some benefit of the doubt.

See my above post on leverage. If they won't put pressure on and punish these leftist twits, they're all to blame. How can you take them seriously about their commitment to getting this done if they won't fight to make it happen?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (39g3+)

124 What was the last government program to be completley, definitively killed?
Posted by: Guy who has had it at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (cOANc)

WWII.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (3myMJ)

125 Susan Collins is a Zero.

Higher Condemnation I simply do not know how to give.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (Niu5G)

126
McCain can do better than that. Nothing adds to the sympathy quotient quite like a robotic chair and voice synthesizer.

Posted by: Stephen Halking at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (EgwCt)

127 They can't completely repeal it. That has always been a lie. Even the vote they took last year which some people keep screaming for them to vote on again wasn't a complete repeal.

You can't do a full repeal using budget reconciliation. No matter how many times people keep saying they can just repeal it with 51 votes the facts don't change.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:53 PM (/tuJf)


They could nuke the filibuster for the full repeal.

The GOP turds have no excuse. None.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (rZ+mb)

128 I can guarantee that if a bill is eventually passed, everyone will hate it.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (3myMJ)

129 All the Senators going up to McCain to welcome him back.

McCain: "Who are all these wacko birds?

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (G0vdT)

130 What was the last government program to be completley, definitively killed?

I think we're still paying a fee on telephone bills to pay for putting up telegraph lines in the 1800s.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (39g3+)

131 I'll agree to Death Panels if I get to oversee them...
I have actual experience with this type of work!

Posted by: Josef Mengele at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (gbWkA)

132 89 Susan "BUT MUH 'BORTIONS!" Collins can go do something in a very hot place.
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 02:49 PM (CMbMd)

I don't want her here in Florida. Send her to Riyadh.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (0mRoj)

133 126
McCain can do better than that. Nothing adds to the sympathy quotient quite like a robotic chair and voice synthesizer.

Posted by: Stephen Halking at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (EgwCt)


Piker.

Posted by: Captain Christopher Pike at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (tu3iY)

134 125 Susan Collins is a Zero.

Higher Condemnation I simply do not know how to give.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 02:54 PM (Niu5G)

Agreed. Bob Dole would get too drunk to get it up before she looked good.

Posted by: Bob Dole at July 25, 2017 02:56 PM (RD7QR)

135 See my above post on leverage. If they won't put pressure on and punish
these leftist twits, they're all to blame. How can you take them
seriously about their commitment to getting this done if they won't
fight to make it happen?



The Dems know how to use that leverage. With extreme prejudice. That's why they win.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 02:56 PM (FJr2+)

136 All it takes to repeal is pass a law stating that the ACA sunsets in 2 years. That's not a budget issue, its just a law.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:56 PM (39g3+)

137 McCain is going to vote with half his brain tied behind his back.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 02:57 PM (Nwg0u)

138 If this goes to debate get the Congressional money trough filled to the brim. The payoffs will be epic.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:57 PM (mcI77)

139 Socialism forever!

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 02:45 PM (Nwg0u)

Mongo like Socialism

Posted by: Colin at July 25, 2017 02:57 PM (EcgLJ)

140 If you are follwing on Fox News, switch to FBN. You won't need to hear Shep.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 02:57 PM (lIZQs)

141 McCain is going to vote with half his brain tied behind his back.
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That's what I always did.

Posted by: joe biden at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (mUgpF)

142 Collins, Murkowsi, and Capito are beards for the chameleon commies.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (cjVcY)

143 John McCain will be back next year as Captain Christopher Pike in the chair with the little blinking light.

Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (gbWkA)

144 These Senators . . . they really don't like making tough decisions.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (+YumX)

145 talking through my Darth Vader Voice Simulator by Mattel,

Hasbro. Previously Kenner, but Hasbro bought Kenner.

You may be thinking of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, or possibly Hot Wheels.

Posted by: Soledad O'Brien's earwig at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (u0s1P)

146 ThePrimordialOrderedPair: "...because there will never be any other action by the Vichy GOP turds."

Yep. Another political party will form de novo to reform healthcare to free market standards before the GOP touches this turd again. IOW, it ain't happenin'.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (H8S+R)

147 I agree Republicans at this point just need to do SOMETHING in the right direction.

We clearly don;t have the votes for some perfect bill that accomplishes everything.

Collins, Capito, and Murkowski won't even allow a repeal bill to be debated.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (LHzKO)

148 "Did that to Murkowski without effect once already. She just ran write-in and won the general."

It's awfully hard to win Alaska on an anti-pork platform. Which is what her challenger was attempting in the general.

Note that Palin won as governor on an oddly combined platform of less corruption but moar pork.

Morecokeski is all pork, all the time, stack 'em deep and sell 'em cheap. And hasn't ever even sneezed in the direction of anticorruption efforts.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (ujwCG)

149 *lol at topic*

Aaand, at the same time, they're trying to privatize the VA.

---

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"Congressional leaders have continually promised that they have no intent to privatize the VA health care system and do not intend to gradually erode VA's ability to provide care in favor of sending veterans to private sector doctors. VA cannot be everything to everyone and private sector doctors must be used to supplement VA doctors when VA facilities are too far away or appointment wait times are too long. However, the House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on S.114, which would ignore the needs of the VA health care system and use funds from VA programs to "pay for" private sector care."

Posted by: SMFH at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (s5Kql)

150 The obamacare funding bill was passed with reconciliation. So all the have to do is kill funding for it with reconciliation.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (mpXpK)

151 Senate votes to open debate on ObamaCare repeal

http://nyp.st/2tHVVbD

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (vBeA5)

152 a few key components of the Affordable Care Act that Republicans have identified as being particularly burdensome

That's nice.

Posted by: t-bird at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (2z74n)

153 >>The Dems know how to use that leverage. With extreme prejudice. That's why they win.


And they always renegotiate a "deal" so that they eventually get 100% of what they want. And then *still* find time to knife the Republicans in the back.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (NOIQH)

154 >>They could nuke the filibuster for the full repeal.

>>The GOP turds have no excuse. None.

They aren't going to nuke it for all legislation and even if they did they wouldn't have the votes for a full repeal.

It's not the entire GOP, it's the same 3 of 4 people who have been fucking this up since Day 1.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (/tuJf)

155 Feds Dole Out $3 Million To Fight "Microaggressions" In Science Fields.

-WZ

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (mcI77)

156 Is Trump going to have a presser with LeBron?

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (lIZQs)

157 Honestly a bunch of headless chickens walking to Chick Fil a then Colon and Myflukupkowsky

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (zJ3L1)

158 All it takes to repeal is pass a law stating that the ACA sunsets in 2 years. That's not a budget issue, its just a law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

+++++

You forgot the majority in the Senate voting for it.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (LHzKO)

159 McCain is going to vote with half his brain tied behind his back.
==============

McCain is going to vote with that spider web ganglia blowing the synapses in his brain.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:00 PM (cjVcY)

160 McCain's symptoms include a negative affect on one's judgement. He should not be allowed to have a say on anything to do with governance.

McCain should not be allowed to have a say on anything.

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He's Mad Max Waters level crazy.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 03:00 PM (Nwg0u)

161 It's going to be hilarious when McCain suddenly votes or comments in a pro-conservative, pro-Trump way and all the Smart People start suddenly demanding he be removed from his seat because his condition influences his cognitive ability and decision making skills.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 25, 2017 03:00 PM (JTMqu)

162 Note that Palin won as governor on an oddly combined platform of less corruption but moar pork.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 02:58 PM (ujwCG)

--------------------------------------------

The clean pork platform ?

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 03:00 PM (SsblQ)

163 Does McCain's tumor get an extra vote?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (UBzPO)

164 It's awfully hard to win Alaska on an anti-pork platform. Which is what her challenger was attempting in the general.

Note that Palin won as governor on an oddly combined platform of less corruption but moar pork.

Morecokeski is all pork, all the time, stack 'em deep and sell 'em cheap. And hasn't ever even sneezed in the direction of anticorruption efforts.
Posted by: torquewrench

______

The whole "pork busters" thing that McCain championed really was stupid and was like .01% of our budget.

I would have gladly traded some pork in Alaska to change out Murkowski.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (LHzKO)

165 Collins and Murkowski voted NO.

Pence provided 51st vote.

Probably scripted vote.

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (vBeA5)

166 "What was the last government program to be completley, definitively killed?"

The former Civil Aeronautics Board.

During the Reagan years.

That's what the "Reagan Revolution" came to. Arriving inside the Beltway in 1981 while swearing to decertify and defund the Departments of Education and Energy. Leaving D.C. eight years later with the tiny scalp of the CAB.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (ujwCG)

167 It's not the entire GOP, it's the same 3 of 4 people who have been fucking this up since Day 1.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (/tuJf)


It's the whole GOP, save a couple. It's Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and the rest of the idiots. It's pretty much the whole bunch of them.

They're a bunch of lying shit-stains who suck donkey shlong in their off-time.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (rZ+mb)

168 John McCain is a fucking traitor and he makes me fucking sick.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (jjaLl)

169 "Susan Collins" is one of those names McCain struggles with, straining the "S"s through his back teeth with his jaw clenched.

I think that's why the North Vietnamese beat him.

He was actually trying to tell them the Navy's code words -- Sassafrass, Sasquatchawan, Supersilious, Sausalito -- but the dumbass commies couldn't understand a damned thing he was saying.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (4AVeu)

170 Can someone smarter than me explain if the congress can pass a bill that says it's legal to sell health insurance across state lines, and somehow override all the stupid stuff that has to be in insurance policies, like acupuncture?

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (Ri/rl)

171 All I want is for McCain to meander through a speech and then, apropos of nothing, say "Flag on the Moon" and move on. My needs are few but highly specific.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (RD7QR)

172 somewhere there is a clip of McCain singing Bomb Bomb Iran to the tune of Barbara Ann.

the man has been a loon for years.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (CrPLf)

173 McCain reading a statement and making sense.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (3myMJ)

174 What was the last government program to be completley, definitively killed?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 02:55 PM (39g3+)

Actually, the federal government kills some 100,000 carnivores every year under the U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA's) Wildlife Services program.

Posted by: Colin at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (EcgLJ)

175 Enough blathering on about high-minded concepts. Just cast your vote for this farce already.

Posted by: Ripley at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (MxEKc)

176 Nancy Sinatra is dead.

Exit to "Boots Are Made for Walking"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (4AVeu)

177 He's Mad Max Waters level crazy.

Loving living nectar of bees of pollen and butterflies run amok, Garbage pink composition solely bags speak deodorant. Arrrrgh!

Posted by: Sen John McCain, Esq at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (eytER)

178 168 John McCain is a fucking traitor and he makes me fucking sick.

I would like to add to this but I don't want to be banned.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (mcI77)

179 I wouldn't trust Collins to be able to under stand the directions on a can of cat food.
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Shit. And all these years I thought it was food made out of cats.

Posted by: Susan Collins at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (vg8iE)

180 I only heard about a minute but this sounds a lot like a farewell speech by McCain

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (UBzPO)

181 The Dems know how to use that leverage. With extreme prejudice. That's why they win.

Exactly, when they want something done, Dem leadership will use the leverage they have: poor committees, no funding, lower priority for their legislation, tabling what they want done, etc. GOP seems to know none of this. No matter what a reprehensible piece of trash you are, if you have seniority, well you get the power even if its directly opposed to the party's platform and intent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (39g3+)

182
Where is your fucking pride, if nothing else?
Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 02:51 PM (FJr2+)


If nearly having nine of your fellow republicans assissnated by a core democrat constituent doesn't put a little fight in you nothing will.

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (lKyWE)

183 Now we get 20 hours of debate with amendments. Somebody go to to the floor and get Murcokesky her blow.

How you got against the motion to proceed is mind boggling. They should beat those two idiots over the head with that vote.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (zJ3L1)

184 Can someone smarter than me explain if the congress can pass a bill that says it's legal to sell health insurance across state lines, and somehow override all the stupid stuff that has to be in insurance policies, like acupuncture?

Posted by: CaliGirl

++++++

Yes they can pass that, but states have their own insurance laws.

I support selling across state lines. but this is one of those things too many people think will fix insurance. It won't. The burdensome state mandates will still be there.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (LHzKO)

185 Does McCain's tumor get an extra vote?


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM


Obligatory:

It's not a tumah!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (p+Wdc)

186 McCain just dissed everybody on our side that is barley keeping this country from sliding into tyranny. Screw him

Posted by: Ripley at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (MxEKc)

187 I only heard about a minute but this sounds a lot like a farewell speech by McCain
===========

Just Kiddin' Psych!!!

Posted by: john mcCain at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (JUgNk)

188 Oh FFS, shut up already and sit down.

"We're getting nothing done my friendshs, we're GETTING NOTHING DONE!"

Yeah, and you are it idiot helping it not get done, asshole.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (8iiMU)

189 Add a bunch more welfare to it but make it unconstitutional as f*ck, get the (D)s on board, and then send it to the SCOTUS to strike down.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (JTMqu)

190 "And they always renegotiate a "deal" so that they eventually get 100% of what they want. And then *still* find time to knife the Republicans in the back.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 02:59 PM (NOIQH) "
*********************************************


In an argument with a Dem about a treaty we did not honor: He said a treaty, a contract, is the beginning of negotiation not the end.

That's the way they are trained. That is who they are.
Nibbling commie cockroaches.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (cjVcY)

191 McCain just insulted half of America, the half that voted for Trump.

Posted by: WisRich at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (G0vdT)

192 Leaving D.C. eight years later with the tiny scalp of the CAB.


Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (ujwCG)
--------------------------------------------------
Due to the 1978 deregulation bill.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (SsblQ)

193
McCain reading a statement and making sense.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 03:02 PM (3myMJ)


There's a medical term -- and I kick myself in the ass for forgetting it -- for when a patient begins to make sudden progress, gains clarity -- before the inevitable occurs.

Damned if I can remember it now.

* kicks self again *

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (EgwCt)

194 Can't we do like a "cornhusker kickback" to places like Alaska and Maine where nobody lives anyway?


It would be worth it just to get the 99% of other people off Obamacare.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (LHzKO)

195 so...keeping Obamacare is bipartisan thanks to these traitorous bishes.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:05 PM (AU4SY)

196 176
Nancy Sinatra is dead.



Exit to "Boots Are Made for Walking"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:03 PM (4AVeu)


That was Sinatra's wife Barbra.

http://tinyurl.com/y94t7rg3

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (mpXpK)

197 My bad. Barbara Sinatra has died. Not Nancy.

Barbara was Frank's wife.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (4AVeu)

198 I would have gladly traded some pork in Alaska to change out Murkowski.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:01 PM (LHzKO)


I been trying to give away some of this pork my entire adult life.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (Niu5G)

199 This is going to be amendmentpalooza. Each side will game certain amendments to put their opponents on the record for certain positions. It's election fodder time.

Weeeeeeeeee!!

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (zJ3L1)

200 It's been a while since we've had Cocaine Bear. If we're going to talk about Lisa Morecokeski then we need Cocaine Bear.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (RD7QR)

201
If nearly having nine of your fellow republicans assissnated by a core democrat constituent doesn't put a little fight in you nothing will.
=============
You need to send your resume to the Trump Communications Director I hear they are looking for somebody.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (Lutdd)

202 I'll take a half-caff skinny soy latte with wings.

Posted by: Hipster GOPe Doofus at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (ctuyM)

203 Nancy Sinatra is dead.

Didn't someone on the ONT say they got in a Twitter argument with her?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (AM1GF)

204 Hey- ho.. I am ready for a new Party... anybody else? I have a couple of ideas about what it should be. It may be time now...

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (zSVEm)

205

Posted by: CaliGirl

++++++

Yes they can pass that, but states have their own insurance laws.

I support selling across state lines. but this is one of those things too many people think will fix insurance. It won't. The burdensome state mandates will still be there.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (LHzKO)

There is no way Congress can do an end run around all the state mandates?

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (Ri/rl)

206 You forgot the majority in the Senate voting for it.

I was dumb enough to think a bill can only pass if the majority votes for it regardless of which house of congress.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (39g3+)

207 Barbara was Frank's wife.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM (4AVeu)

While he was screwing half of Hollywood and making a fool of himself chasing Ava Gardner.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (UBzPO)

208 POTATO SALAD!

Posted by: Johnny Mac at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (H8S+R)

209 I was wrong. It's Barbara Sinatra who died. Not Nancy.

I ban myself.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (4AVeu)

210 There's a medical term -- and I kick myself in the ass for forgetting it -- for when a patient begins to make sudden progress, gains clarity -- before the inevitable occurs.

Damned if I can remember it now.

* kicks self again *
=========\
Terminal Lucidity.

*Kick*

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (xUXis)

211 John McCain needs to go, nobody listening to this likes the guy. People are sick of politicians like him. Nobody wants politicians "working together"... they just want them out of their lives.

That's why they got Trump, and they still don't understand it.

We need more Kid Rock... less John McCain.

Posted by: reality man at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (xOBRH)

212
All I want is for McCain to meander through a speech and then, apropos of nothing, say "Flag on the Moon" and move on. My needs are few but highly specific.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist


How did it get there?

Posted by: Coleman Francis at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (IqV8l)

213 Frank's first wife, Nancy...IS still alive.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (7uYFy)

214 "I ban myself."

Pfff. who does that on THIS blog?!

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (CrPLf)

215 210 There's a medical term -- and I kick myself in the ass for forgetting it -- for when a patient begins to make sudden progress, gains clarity -- before the inevitable occurs.

Damned if I can remember it now.

* kicks self again *
=========\
Terminal Lucidity.

*Kick*
Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (xUXis)


Whew... fortunately, I show no signs of that...

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (zSVEm)

216 Funny how McBrain can sound very conservative when he wants to. Like now, and six months before election time.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (8iiMU)

217 Same as always. Nothing but kabukake. Again.

Posted by: Eromero at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (zLDYs)

218 McCain's employing some rather..... creepy vocal tones on what the speechwriter marked as stress points...... Seems like he read it as "stroke points", because that's what it sounds like he's having.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (jjaLl)

219 I never understood the Nancy thing. Did he name his daughter after her mother? Is that like Nancy Jr?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (UBzPO)

220 It's been a while since we've had Cocaine Bear.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 25, 2017 03:06 PM


I'm always happy to help with clever mathematical pick-up lines on the Patient Bear threads.

Posted by: Patient Mathematical Bear at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (ctuyM)

221 By making sense I simply meant he is able to read his statement without stumbling or getting lost.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (3myMJ)

222 If anyone survives brain cancer, it will be John McCain....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (7uYFy)

223 Nancy Sinatra:

http://en.mediamass. net/ people/
nancy-sinatra/deathhoax.html

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:10 PM (cjVcY)

224 There is no way Congress can do an end run around all the state mandates?

Posted by: CaliGirl
++++

Not to my knowledge, unless you want to end federalism and state's rights.

If you offer insurance to a state resident, the state law has certain "rights" that drive the price of insurance up.

And with ObamaCare, a whole bunch of new federal mandates got added on top of that.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:10 PM (LHzKO)

225 Protesters have delayed the beginning of the vote, chanting "Kill the bill, don't kill us."

Embrace the power of 'and'.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 25, 2017 03:10 PM (xAvrH)

226 I never understood the Nancy thing. Did he name his daughter after her mother? Is that like Nancy Jr?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:09 PM (UBzPO)

Yes. His first wife was Nancy Barbato....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:10 PM (7uYFy)

227 212
All I want is for McCain to meander through a speech and then, apropos of nothing, say "Flag on the Moon" and move on. My needs are few but highly specific.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist

How did it get there?
Posted by: Coleman Francis at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (IqV8l)

These are all just random sentences, folks.

Posted by: Mike Nelson at July 25, 2017 03:10 PM (RD7QR)

228 Nothing is crazier than Mia Farrow marrying Frank Sinatra (for like 10 minutes). . . and then marrying Woody Allen (a.k.a. Soon Yi's Daddy/Husband).

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (4AVeu)

229 If nearly having nine of your fellow republicans assassinated by a core democrat constituent doesn't put a little fight in you nothing will.

If you don't have a spine to begin with, then being frightened is not going to grow it in you.

then send it to the SCOTUS to strike down.

"Looks constitutional to me!"
-Chief Justice Roberts

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (39g3+)

230 Maybe this vote will help spur on states ratifying for a convention. It's pretty close now, IIRC.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (cjVcY)

231 209 I was wrong. It's Barbara Sinatra who died. Not Nancy.

I ban myself.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot /i]

OK, now you must put "FAKE NEWS" in your user nick.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (DQ4Fv)

232 Terminal Lucidity.

*Kick*

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:08 PM (xUXis)


*ouch*

That describes it, yeah - that works. But that term dates to 2009. I was exposed to a different term in the mid 90's. So many beers ago.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (EgwCt)

233 Unitalic

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (DQ4Fv)

234 And McCain makes an impassioned speech.... to start the whole damn process of Obamacare over...

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (NgKpN)

235 When Satan's claw reaches up and grabs McCain by his nuts and he is dragged screaming into hell, will his fat daughter still have a job at FNC?

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (mcI77)

236 If anyone survives brain cancer, it will be John McCain....

He doesn't strike me as a fighter, given his life history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (39g3+)

237 Shut up Shemp.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (/tuJf)

238 I saw Terminal Lucidity open up for Queensryche in 1989.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (7uYFy)

239 Yes they can pass that, but states have their own insurance laws.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (LHzKO)


And the ACTUAL job of the feral government is to make a law that makes regular the interstate commerce of that product. The feral government actually has the responsibility to fix that problem - not to take control of health insurance markets but to work it out so that interstate commerce is possible and fluid. That is their ACTUAL Constitutional task.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (rZ+mb)

240 OK, now you must put "FAKE NEWS" in your user nick.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (DQ4Fv)
____________________________

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot Fake News at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (4AVeu)

241 205

Posted by: CaliGirl

++++++

Yes they can pass that, but states have their own insurance laws.

I support selling across state lines. but this is one of those things too many people think will fix insurance. It won't. The burdensome state mandates will still be there.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (LHzKO)

There is no way Congress can do an end run around all the state mandates?

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 25, 2017 03:07 PM (Ri/rl)

++++

Sure, they could. Interstate commerce clause. I don't think they should, though. Allow insurance to be sold across state line, yes. But, I don't want the feds completely owning health insurance. That's a big part of what Obamacare is. Let the states make their own laws.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (FUu/Z)

242 234 And McCain makes an impassioned speech.... to start the whole damn process of Obamacare over...

/facepalm
Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (NgKpN)

Hook up the morphine folks, we're done here.

Posted by: McCain's doctor at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (RD7QR)

243 >>>>Yes they can pass that, but states have their own insurance laws.



I support selling across state lines. but this is one of those
things too many people think will fix insurance. It won't. The
burdensome state mandates will still be there.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:04 PM (LHzKO)



There is no way Congress can do an end run around all the state mandates?
.
.
.Yep, comply with the provisions of the new law allowing interstate health insurance policies (and my favorite....catastrophic only policies) or we cut off Medicaid funding to your State.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (0pcwX)

244 "Nancy with the laughing face" written by Phil Silvers on the birth of Nancy Sinatra.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (cjVcY)

245 Election have consequences...

apparently not


Why does the GOP continue to defy the voters?

I remember when Ryan, Paul, etc... were the "new fresh hope" not too long ago. WTF?!

Posted by: Getcha Pull at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (MIwBq)

246 Lame McCain grows tumors on his brain.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (jjaLl)

247 There's a medical term -- and I kick myself in the ass for forgetting it -- for when a patient begins to make sudden progress, gains clarity -- before the inevitable occurs.

Damned if I can remember it now.

* kicks self again *
=========\
Terminal Lucidity.

-
Good God! Mad Max will live forever.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 25, 2017 03:13 PM (Nwg0u)

248 230 Maybe this vote will help spur on states ratifying for a convention. It's pretty close now, IIRC.
Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:11 PM (cjVcY)

They just won't recognize it...

The Feds decide whether the States votes for a Constitutional Amendment is valid...

Which is why the 16th passed, even though it should not have...

And the Balanced Budget Amendment didn't, even though enough States have ratified it.

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (NgKpN)

249 JoeF.: "If anyone survives brain cancer, it will be John McCain...."

...because it would have been a damn tiny tumor.

I denounce myself, sort of.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (H8S+R)

250 Senate agrees to talk.

World in shock.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (3myMJ)

251 trump needs to join primary fights for some of these senators.

Too many limp rhinos sneaking through

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (AU4SY)

252 Trump gloating now....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (7uYFy)

253 And with ObamaCare, a whole bunch of new federal mandates got added on top of that.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:10 PM (LHzKO)

It's all those mandates that makes insurance expensive.

No, I don't want to get rid of federalism.

It would be nice to buy the policy we'd like to buy.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (Ri/rl)

254 234 And McCain makes an impassioned speech.... to start the whole damn process of Obamacare over...

/facepalm
Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (NgKpN)

It would almost seem like the Uniparty is just kicking the Obamacare can around, with an eye to taking a majority in some part of the government again. Almost.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (zSVEm)

255 >>>>If anyone survives brain cancer, it will be John McCain....



He doesn't strike me as a fighter, given his life history.
.
.
.No one "survives" the type of cancer he has, some just live a bit longer than others and the long lived ones are usually way younger than 80.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (0pcwX)

256 Trump looks like Kennedy sometimes, doesn't he....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (7uYFy)

257 Ha ha. Looks like the Dems are objecting, and compelling the amendments to be read out loud in full. Am I interpreting this correctly?


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (8iiMU)

258 LIke Sinatra's music but he was a dick

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (g+Dix)

259 People will always remember that Colons and Murcokesky wanted to keep Obamacare. We should make them wear that vote like a dog collar.

How the hell can you be in the senate and vote to not have debate on the most important issue our country and her citizens needs to to fix.

The words spineless "pussies" comes to mind.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (zJ3L1)

260 When Satan's claw reaches up and grabs McCain by his nuts and he is dragged screaming into hell, will his fat daughter still have a job at FNC?
=====

As a parting gift, the governor of AZ will appoint her to his seat!

Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (vg8iE)

261 257 This is what the GOP should have done for ObamalamaCare.....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (8iiMU)

262 Terminal Lucidity.

That would've been a better film if Nastassja Kinski had gotten nekkid.

...

Wait, what?

Posted by: movie cricket at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (+INtM)

263 ... will his fat daughter still have a job at FNC?
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM


Of course not. Useless eaters are not tolerated here.

Posted by: Juan & Geraldo at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (ctuyM)

264 So, just the tip?

Posted by: fluffy at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (jw2Xw)

265 LIke Sinatra's music but he was a dick
Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (g+Dix

Yes he was. He weighed 120 pounds, and 100 of it was COCK---actual quote from Ava Gardner

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (7uYFy)

266 McCain's words were quaint . And irrelevant.

The OTHER side declared war on the voters after the election. McCain is either sick or comically stupid to not understand the war that was declared on his cherished 'Republic' .

McCains words , given the hell unleashed by the other side, are.......so Very French.


Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (oBuXO)

267 My thought is anything is better than everything in the history of the country previously taken away from the Democrats, which of course isn't much.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (pPKG5)

268 trump needs to join primary fights for some of these senators.

---------------------------------------
He might need their votes against conviction by then...

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 03:16 PM (SsblQ)

269 Too many limp rhinos sneaking through

I think they are the best you can expect from these states, in terms of Republicans. Their voters are too worthless, stupid, or corrupt to make the right choice. So its up to the congressional leadership in the parties to crack the whip and apply pressure, which they are plainly choosing not to do. This isn't the fault of a "few troublesome members" its a leadership issue. And who votes for these leaders? The majority of congress.

In other words: its not a small number, its most of them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:17 PM (39g3+)

270 260 When Satan's claw reaches up and grabs McCain by his nuts and he is dragged screaming into hell, will his fat daughter still have a job at FNC?
=====

As a parting gift, the governor of AZ will appoint her to his seat!
Posted by: bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (vg8iE)

I am, like, so happy to be here! SQUEEEEE!! So where's the all you can eat buffet?

Posted by: Meaghan "Thunder Thighs" McCain at July 25, 2017 03:17 PM (RD7QR)

271 hell, will his fat daughter still have a job at FNC?
=====
No, but KFC is hiring. Should do wonders for her figure.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:17 PM (rm2Cc)

272 No one "survives" the type of cancer he has, some just live a bit longer than others and the long lived ones are usually way younger than 80.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:14 PM (0pcwX)


Very true.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:17 PM (zSVEm)

273
When Satan's claw reaches up and grabs McCain by his nuts and he is dragged screaming into hell, will his fat daughter still have a job at FNC?
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (mcI77)


She probably has her eyes set on her fathers vacated senate seat

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 03:17 PM (lKyWE)

274 In true John McCain fashion, the Senator has successfully negotiated a compromise with his brain tumor.

McCain has agreed to let the tumor remain and the tumor has given McCain its hearty assurance that it will not kill him.

"We must not let our hatred of tumors dictate the possibility of compromise," McCain said.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot Fake News at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (4AVeu)

275 Yes he was. He weighed 120 pounds, and 100 of it was COCK---actual quote from Ava Gardner
=====

I KNEW I was born at the wrong time. I just knew it!!

Posted by: Shep! at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (vg8iE)

276 She probably has her eyes set on her fathers vacated senate seat
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 03:17 PM (lKyWE)

And the entire Senate's vacated lunch....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (7uYFy)

277 .Yep, comply with the provisions of the new law allowing interstate health insurance policies (and my favorite....catastrophic only policies) or we cut off Medicaid funding to your State.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
___________

Sure they can do that and also "make" the states pass any law with a bribe.

But to my knowledge, you can't simply say "drop all mandates" and suddenly all state laws regarding insurance become null and void.

Imagine if they could do that with gun laws.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (LHzKO)

278
Yes he was. He weighed 120 pounds, and 100 of it was COCK---actual quote from Ava Gardner
--------
sounds like he didn't just chase her, he caught her, at least once.

Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:19 PM (y/1Lm)

279 274 In true John McCain fashion, the Senator has successfully negotiated a compromise with his brain tumor.

McCain has agreed to let the tumor remain and the tumor has given McCain its hearty assurance that it will not kill him.

"We must not let our hatred of tumors dictate the possibility of compromise," McCain said.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot Fake News at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (4AVeu)

OK... I'm goin to hell for laughin at that...

See ya all there!

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 03:19 PM (NgKpN)

280 My frienshs, we have noth- POUND CAKE!! ing to fear from thesh brain tu- I HAVE A HAT!!!! mors growing in my FUCK!!! SHIT!!!!! PISS!!!!!! head.

Posted by: John McCain at July 25, 2017 03:20 PM (jjaLl)

281 258 LIke Sinatra's music but he was a dick

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 03:15 PM (g+Dix)


My father hated him because Sinatra avoided military service in WWII.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 25, 2017 03:20 PM (tu3iY)

282 People will always remember that Colons and Murcokesky wanted to keep Obamacare. We should make them wear that vote like a dog collar.

How the hell can you be in the senate and vote to not have debate on the most important issue our country and her citizens needs to to fix.

The words spineless "pussies" comes to mind.
Posted by: Marcus T

______

I agree, and Trump's election has showed that Republicans voters aren't taking the same shit sandwich any longer.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:20 PM (LHzKO)

283 Yes he was. He weighed 120 pounds, and 100 of it was COCK---actual quote from Ava Gardner
--------
sounds like he didn't just chase her, he caught her, at least once.
Posted by: simplemind at July 25, 2017 03:19 PM (y/1Lm)

Sounds like he "lassoed" her with that thing....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:20 PM (7uYFy)

284
Susan Collins -- a class act!

http://www.mediaite.com/online/ sen-susan-collins-blasts-house-colleague-hes-so-unattractive-its-unbelievable/

Sen. Susan Collins Blasts House Colleague: ‘He’s So Unattractive, It’s Unbelievable’

MALE SENATOR on FARENTHOLD: “You could beat the shit out of him.”

SUSAN COLLINS: “He’s huge … he’s so unattractive, it’s unbelievable.” pic.twitter.com/hyw6fKU15E

— JM Rieger (@RiegerReport) July 25, 2017

Following a Senate Committee of Appropriations Meeting Tuesday, Senator Susan Collins was caught talking with Senator Jack Reed about Rep. Blake Farenthold, calling him “so unattractive.”

Listen to the audio above.

Senator Collins delivered a statement in the hearing before sitting down next Reed, where they start talking to each other about budget and healthcare. The conversation turns towards Farenthold when Collins says, “Did you see the one that challenged me to a duel?”

The senator responded, “Trust me, do you know why he challenged you to a duel? Because you could beat the sh*t out of him.”

The audio gets fuzzy here, but Collins is heard saying “fat guy,” “he’s huge,” and “he is so unattractive it’s unbelievable.”

Collins continued by talking about the famous picture of Farenthold in his pajamas next to a scantily clad model at a costume party in 2010, but tragically cuts off right as she starts to describe it.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (DQ4Fv)

285 McCain has been a mostly terrible politician, but as a man we owe him a lot. I don't like his rather obvious penchant for being incoherently oppositional, mostly for the camera and his own ego, but the hate for a man in his condition is a bit in poor taste.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (zJ3L1)

286 >>>However, the House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on S.114, which would ignore the needs of the VA health care system and use funds from VA programs to "pay for" private sector care."

S.114 is Transparency Act. Might be thinking of S.1526 or S.1527, but those were new appropriations and didn't make it through House yesterday.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (UCap9)

287 Has Trump's federal execution happened yet? Is Hillary President?

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (SsblQ)

288 The Balanced Budget Amendment was never passed by Congress so it never made it to the States.


from wiki:


There is no balanced budget provision in the U.S. Constitution, so the federal government is not required to have a balanced budget and usually does not pass one. Several proposed amendments to the U.S. Constitution would require a balanced budget, but none have been passed. Most of these proposed amendments allow a supermajority to waive the requirement of a balanced budget in times of war, national emergency or recession.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (mpXpK)

289 "Does anyone know how this will affect gays and Lesbians ???"

Just in case no else has said it, they along with women, children, persons of color, and disabled will be hardest hit.

You need to get over Susan Olivia leaving you for a man. Stuff happens.

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 03:22 PM (sf2BM)

290 We already primaried Murky -- and she persists.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 03:22 PM (9TU00)

291 As I was just saying to Frank last night, "Argle bargle, bargle. . . "

Posted by: Ava Gardner at July 25, 2017 03:22 PM (4AVeu)

292 Frank Murkowski, Jr. got primaried and lost to Joe Miller in 2010. Murkowski, Jr. ran a write-in campaign and beat Miller in the general. The enemy is not Murkowski, Jr. It's Alaska voters.

In Maine, the last three Republican Senators were William Cohen, Olympia Snowe, and Susan Collins. The lefties in Portland will never permit a conservative to be elected to the Senate. Gov. LePage won twice because there were third party candidates. So, the enemy here are the voters of Maine.

Posted by: mercenary13 at July 25, 2017 03:22 PM (4Tut9)

293 @265: it's the skinny dudes who are full of surprises

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 03:22 PM (g+Dix)

294 Most of what the federal government can do to fix health care costs is negative: eliminate restrictions, eliminate regulations, eliminate mandates. There's not a lot they can do in the positive sense to fix anything.

Because the problem with health care in the USA isn't insufficient insurance, its not lack of coverage, its not even lack of access. Its vast expense. And that expense is largely driven by government interference, brutal lawsuits against doctors, and insurance companies covering far more than they need to, in order to get a bigger bite of the pie.

If in a perfect world somehow all of that got fixed over night, it would take decades to really bring the cost down.

And in the meantime, all those mangy hippies and worthless dirtbags in the boomer generation who live off the state and demand more and more (as in: not everyone in the generation) get older and sicker and more expensive to deal with.

We're watching a cost balloon grow like a mushroom cloud and its right on the horizon. Obamacare was an attempt to deal with that by forcing everyone to buy in and spread the cost around.

"Yes, it will be expensive, but if we compel people who do not want or need insurance to either buy it or pay a fine, well then we can ride this out!" That was the theory.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:23 PM (39g3+)

295 The Balanced Budget Amendment was never passed by Congress so it never made it to the States.


But it scared Congress into the current budget architecture

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 03:23 PM (9TU00)

296 Federalism, no. Confederation, yes.
If the Fed can't be reigned in then it must be abolished.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:23 PM (cjVcY)

297 42 Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, on Tuesday was caught on a hot mic
insulting Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, by calling him "so
unattractive, it's unbelievable" after Farenthold blamed Collins for the
GOP's failed efforts to repeal and replace Obamacare.


So much for committee in the senate.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 02:41 PM (mpXpK)

has Collins looked in a mirror lately? her Katherine Hepburn impersonation with the shaky voice isn't helping, either.....

Posted by: the Butcher at July 25, 2017 03:23 PM (KtAmr)

298 238 I saw Terminal Lucidity open up for Queensryche in 1989.

I used a Lucidity terminal to open a file on a PDP-10 back in the late '70s. It was VT-52 compatible. Mostly.

Posted by: Anachronda at July 25, 2017 03:24 PM (sGtp+)

299 Sinatra lookedlike he had a Steve Buscemi build. Like a Carny....

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:24 PM (zSVEm)

300 Honestly what the hell happened to Maine? These people will mostly now sell their souls for some more federal handouts. What a disgrace.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:24 PM (zJ3L1)

301 >>>>Sure they can do that and also "make" the states pass any law with a bribe.



But to my knowledge, you can't simply say "drop all mandates" and
suddenly all state laws regarding insurance become null and void.



Imagine if they could do that with gun laws.
.
.
.If it involves anything to do with interstate commerce the Fed can pretty much do anything it wants to and make all sorts of mandates to the States.

Look up Wickard vs. Filburn to see how far the reach of the Fed has been made in regards to interstate commerce.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:24 PM (0pcwX)

302 Wait- Collins is a woman?

Who knew?

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:25 PM (zJ3L1)

303 Gov. LePage won twice because there were third party candidates.

Seems like the beginnings of a strategy ...

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 03:25 PM (9TU00)

304 268 trump needs to join primary fights for some of these senators.

---------------------------------------
He might need their votes against conviction by then...

*****
also, these states are full of moderates who hate the GOP...
**********

sure sure, but the left gets their lockstep liberals in Congress no matter who their constituents are.

It doesn't take SunTzu to see these people opposing trump have lost and don't know it yet.

impeach? Ok then. Maybe in the few remaining brain cells that Pelosi has left.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:25 PM (AU4SY)

305 Paul Ryan is a fucking dope.

I am going to donate as much as I possibly can to his challenger.

ARGHHH!!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at July 25, 2017 03:25 PM (2JcMg)

306 Wait- Collins is a woman?

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How does xe identify?

Posted by: RioBravo at July 25, 2017 03:25 PM (SsblQ)

307 >>Collins continued by talking about the famous picture of Farenthold in his pajamas next to a scantily clad model at a costume party in 2010, but tragically cuts off right as she starts to describe it.

Collins publicly came out last year and announced that she wouldn't be voting for Trump because he didn't treat people with respect.

She's a fraud but she won her last election with almost 70% of the vote.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 03:26 PM (/tuJf)

308 285 McCain has been a mostly terrible politician, but as a man we owe him a lot. I don't like his rather obvious penchant for being incoherently oppositional, mostly for the camera and his own ego, but the hate for a man in his condition is a bit in poor taste.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (zJ3L1)



Was it alright to hate him before he got sick?

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at July 25, 2017 03:26 PM (yKB8T)

309 Wow, oil up 3.34% today.

Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 03:26 PM (3myMJ)

310 meanwhile...trump has a pen and a phone.

The 404care act was written to be performed by a long line of democrat Secretaries to do whatever he wanted.

So now we have the secretaryship.

Direct the shit to end.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:26 PM (AU4SY)

311 301 Imagine if they could do that with gun laws.
.
.
.If
it involves anything to do with interstate commerce the Fed can pretty
much do anything it wants to and make all sorts of mandates to the
States.

Look up Wickard vs. Filburn to see how far the reach of the Fed has been made in regards to interstate commerce.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:24 PM (0pcwX)

The 2nd amendment forbids that. There is no amendment for healthcare. And Obamacare is plainly unconstitutional despite what SCOTUS says.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:26 PM (mpXpK)

312 Farenthold in his pajamas next to a scantily clad model at a costume party in 2010, but tragically cuts off right as she starts to describe it.

Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 03:21 PM (DQ4Fv)
***************************************

From Corpus Christie? Ha, they hate him. Lilly white boy voted in by Hispanics. Racism in Texas is rampant.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:27 PM (cjVcY)

313 I always thought to myself- "why does Collins always have someone filling her so close and dressed so similarly they look like an appendage". Then I figured out it was her fat ass.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:27 PM (zJ3L1)

314 Imagine if they could do that with gun laws.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:18 PM (LHzKO)

AFAIK they can and would if they had the votes. As I recall there were a few states with legal slavery until the Fed gov't put an end to that.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (UBzPO)

315 BSG,

Just going by what the VFW sent me via email.

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"Take Action: Call (202) 224-3121. Press 2 and follow the prompt to reach your Representative. Tell your Representative that you oppose the gradual privatization of VA health care and you demand that they vote "NO" on S.114, which would send billions of dollars into the private sector through the Choice Program; use veterans benefits to pay for it; and put no new resources into VA to address critical infrastructure and staffing shortages which led to the creation of the Choice Program in the first place."

Posted by: SMFH at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (s5Kql)

316 We need a Red Wedding moment with GOP from both Houses.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (2qHjF)

317 >>Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, on Tuesday was caught on a hot mic

insulting Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas...


Thus confirming that DC is high school, where the cool-kid, long-serving incumbents rule the school like mean grrrrls!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (NOIQH)

318 reminder of the GOP's core beliefs:

1. our base is an embarrassment.
2. our beliefs are best hidden because no honest person could believe this shit.
3. The democrats are kind of right, you know.
4. Our goal is to get democrat interns fresh from leftwing universities to love us.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (AU4SY)

319 There's a medical term -- and I kick myself in the ass for forgetting it -- for when a patient begins to make sudden progress, gains clarity -- before the inevitable occurs.

Damned if I can remember it now.


Talking Heads syndrome. It happens Once in a Lifetime

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (lIZQs)

320 McCain having cancer doesn't make him somehow immune to criticism. I agree he shouldn't be hated, but nobody should be. I sympathize with his family and I don't wish death or illness on him.

I just want him out of power, out of the public eye, retired somewhere that he can get the care he needs. And if he truly cared about the American people or at least his constituents, he'd be announcing his retirement, not grandstanding on the Senate floor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (39g3+)

321 They'll pass it, slap each other on the back, and put it in their campaign ads while the shills on Fox et al hail it as a great victory.

What a crock of shit, they have the ability to do exactly what they want to here and this sad drop in the bucket will be it.

Posted by: Motorhead at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (RjQO6)

322 And the ACTUAL job of the feral government is to
make a law that makes regular the interstate commerce of that product.
The feral government actually has the responsibility to fix that problem
- not to take control of health insurance markets but to work it out so
that interstate commerce is possible and fluid. That is their ACTUAL
Constitutional task. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 25, 2017 03:12 PM (rZ+mb)
=====

^^^THIS^^^

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (MIKMs)

323 318 reminder of the GOP's core beliefs:

1. our base is an embarrassment.

***

remember, we never knew that the GOP's biggest voting block were college graduates until evil, oh my God, trump is hitler was allegedly losing them.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (AU4SY)

324 I blame Preibus for Collins and McCloutsky.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (mcI77)

325 >>There's a medical term -- and I kick myself in the ass for forgetting it -- for when a patient begins to make sudden progress, gains clarity -- before the inevitable occurs.

>>Damned if I can remember it now.

Look at the bright side, you're obviously not dying.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (/tuJf)

326 Farenthold.... is that pronounced Farent hold, or Faren thold ??
Really important point there.... would not want to embarrass myself at the coffee shop..

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (zSVEm)

327 >>>>>Because the problem with health care in the USA isn't insufficient
insurance, its not lack of coverage, its not even lack of access. Its
vast expense. And that expense is largely driven by government
interference, brutal lawsuits against doctors, and insurance companies
covering far more than they need to, in order to get a bigger bite of
the pie.
.
.
.I was just talking to a guy at the VFW and his doctor told him that she would no longer being doing any of his pain management due to her Malpractice insurance going up almost double.

We just had a pill mill doctor over in Sherman get busted by the FBI for a decades worth of Medicare fraud and abuse and over prescribing pain pills so the Temoxa Insurance companies are raising everyone's premiums who do any long term pain management treatment.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (0pcwX)

328 Collins has to be one of the ugliest bitches I've ever laid eyes on. She should talk.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:30 PM (LHzKO)

329 300 Honestly what the hell happened to Maine? These people will mostly now sell their souls for some more federal handouts. What a disgrace.

You get on the north side of I95 and there is not a whole lot to do other than collect the federal handouts. South of the highway is completely overrun by Massholes doing their best to make Maine into what they escaped.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 25, 2017 03:30 PM (kUmUV)

330 Rush has repeatedly said the GOP will not repeal Obamacare because they want to keep it.

The only constituency the GOP cares about is the Media and the Dems.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 25, 2017 03:31 PM (MZcWR)

331 >>>The 2nd amendment forbids that. There is no amendment for healthcare.
And Obamacare is plainly unconstitutional despite what SCOTUS says.
.
.
.Vic what I was saying is that the Fed can tell the States to back off any restrictions to the 2nd, not add more to it.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:31 PM (0pcwX)

332 Trashing Sessions praising McCain in the last few moments. I'm with Carol on Trump.

Posted by: Tallulah Jane at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (WLNyn)

333 300 Honestly what the hell happened to Maine? These people will mostly now sell their souls for some more federal handouts. What a disgrace.

You get on the north side of I95 and there is not a whole lot to do other than collect the federal handouts. South of the highway is completely overrun by Massholes doing their best to make Maine into what they escaped.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 25, 2017 03:30 PM (kUmUV)


I would say it's maybe Northern West Virginia, but I doubt there is enough similarities for it to really work.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (zSVEm)

334 Remember how Ryan was scorched for enforcing the Congressional Dress Code?

It's being revamped, just wait until the new one comes out.

Get used to seeing your Reps. in pajamas and crocs.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 02:46 PM (FggK5)



For half of them the dress code should be an orange jumpsuit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (SRKgf)

335 >>>Just going by what the VFW sent me via email.

You can go to congress.gov and read the text of the bills. S.114 and H.R.1690 are Transparency Acts regarding reporting of performance awards and bonuses.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (UCap9)

336 Making a cogent argument against the plethora of idiotic grandstanding and ass chaping incidents Mcain has been involved in and making comments about his illness are two different things. Like I said, he's been demonstrably a horrible politician and one could even say disloyal. But I still empathize with his condition and the things he's done before politics. That's my only point.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (zJ3L1)

337 The women in the office are all "BUT MUH 'BORTIONS!"-ing even though they're like f***ing Menopause age...

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (CMbMd)

338 Honestly what the hell happened to Maine? These people will mostly now sell their souls for some more federal handouts. What a disgrace.

_________

The state is not that liberal.

It has a Republican Governor and Trump lost only like by like 4 points.

I could maybe understand Collins if we were talking about a state like Massachusetts.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (LHzKO)

339 320 McCain having cancer doesn't make him somehow immune to criticism. I agree he shouldn't be hated, but nobody should be. I sympathize with his family and I don't wish death or illness on him.

I just want him out of power, out of the public eye, retired somewhere that he can get the care he needs. And if he truly cared about the American people or at least his constituents, he'd be announcing his retirement, not grandstanding on the Senate floor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:28 PM (39g3+)

DITTO!!!

I would give him time on the floor of the Senate for a farewell speech. But if he (like any other servant of the people) should recognize the sun is setting on their career and graciously bow out so another can step in. Anything more just shows how large the divide is between our "betters" and us commoners.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (jxbfJ)

340 Don't know much about Maine, but just looking at a map makes me think some Massholes moved in.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (+YumX)

341 amazing that the commie senators in Trump states couldn,t vote yes

Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 03:33 PM (g+Dix)

342 328 Collins has to be one of the ugliest bitches I've ever laid eyes on. She should talk.

I agree.

Posted by: Rosa DeLauro at July 25, 2017 03:33 PM (mcI77)

343 337 The women in the office are all "BUT MUH 'BORTIONS!"-ing even though they're like f***ing Menopause age...
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 03:32 PM (CMbMd)

Waving that banner, virtue signalling.

Posted by: kraken at July 25, 2017 03:33 PM (zSVEm)

344 >>Don't know much about Maine, but just looking at a map makes me think some Massholes moved in.

And apparently some Somalis?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 03:34 PM (NOIQH)

345 Oh well, it's shot down, whatever it was.

Posted by: SMFH at July 25, 2017 03:34 PM (s5Kql)

346 Look at the bright side, you're obviously not dying.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (/tuJf)


On a long enough time-line you're completely incorrect.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:34 PM (EgwCt)

347 The obvious solution is pass a bill repealing it in its entirety and pass a bill that says this is a States issue and the States can do whatever they want. Of course that would be a constitutional solution so it's out of the question.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at July 25, 2017 03:34 PM (HKM9P)

348 Collins is ugly as hell but that fat guy does look like a dumbass

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 03:35 PM (E4p3I)

349
The 2nd amendment forbids that. There is no amendment for healthcare. And Obamacare is plainly unconstitutional despite what SCOTUS says.
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But I lurk in the penumbras and emanations.

Posted by: Abortion at July 25, 2017 03:35 PM (vg8iE)

350 346 Look at the bright side, you're obviously not dying.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 03:29 PM (/tuJf)

On a long enough time-line you're completely incorrect.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:34 PM (EgwCt)

As soon as you're born you start dyin'
So you might as well have a good time

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 03:35 PM (0mRoj)

351 But cripes, Maine just doesn't seem like the place where people would be protesting in the streets to keep Obamacare. Alaska either.

Yet that's essentially what this two saggy boobs just voted for.
The voters can't be that dumb.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:35 PM (zJ3L1)

352 I agree.


Posted by: Rosa DeLauro at July 25, 2017 03:33 PM (mcI77)

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I know, right?

Posted by: Big Debbie Stabenow at July 25, 2017 03:36 PM (vg8iE)

353 trump needs to talk to the "director" who is basically authorized to rewrite the law as he sees fit.

seriously, how does the GOP not know this?

also, faukkke your preexisting conditions. And the mandated cadillac plans. the director can direct this shit away.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:36 PM (AU4SY)

354 The only constituency the GOP cares about is the Media and the Dems.

I think they would actually care more about what the American people think, but they are basically soaking nose-deep in leftists so they have no connection whatosever to the voters. They stay all year long out of state with a few visits, they hear only what they're allowed to hear by the media, they have staffers who handle their mail who may or may not be leftist, and they simply don't know.

It takes a pretty extraordinary person to be constantly surrounded by a worldview and not be influenced and changed by it. Hence: don't send your kids to college.

Collins has to be one of the ugliest bitches I've ever laid eyes on. She should talk.

But if she gets the sniffles you dare not say anything bad about her!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:36 PM (39g3+)

355 The women in the office are all "BUT MUH 'BORTIONS!"-ing even though they're like f***ing Menopause age...
Posted by: Hikaru

If they had one, they are compromised - PP keeps a list and vets it with their political operatives.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 03:36 PM (9TU00)

356 The 2nd amendment forbids that. There is no amendment for healthcare. And Obamacare is plainly unconstitutional despite what SCOTUS says.

______

But the 2nd Amendment doesn't mean "zero gun laws" and obviously states all have different laws.

So I wouldn't want the Feds to say we all have to have California's gun laws that could override existing state laws.

The Feds are only supposed to regulate activity between states, but we know that has largely been made null and void.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:37 PM (LHzKO)

357 "On a long enough time-line you're completely incorrect.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:34 PM (EgwCt)"


We are all suffering from terminal birth.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 03:37 PM (lIZQs)

358 Maine is beautiful. As such it must be settled and eventually destroyed by the Left.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 03:37 PM (A3edJ)

359 OK John. Your turn. One drool for yes, two for no.

Posted by: wth at July 25, 2017 03:38 PM (HgMAr)

360 But cripes, Maine just doesn't seem like the place where people would be protesting in the streets to keep Obamacare. Alaska either.

Yet that's essentially what this two saggy boobs just voted for.
The voters can't be that dumb.
Posted by: Marcus T

_______

None of these Senators are in any danger of getting booted.

They simply WANT government controlled health care.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:38 PM (LHzKO)

361 Maine just doesn't seem like the place where people would be protesting in the streets to keep Obamacare. Alaska either.

The older you get, the more... flexible, lets say... your constitutionalism and federalism becomes. BUt mah soch security! But may medicares! You can't touch em!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:38 PM (39g3+)

362 @338 The state is not that liberal.

It has a Republican Governor and Trump lost only like by like 4 points.

I could maybe understand Collins if we were talking about a state like Massachusetts.
-----------------------

Collins's fellow senator used to be Olympia Snow. Snow was a Republican, but frequently voted along with the other party, just like Collins. When Snow finally left office, she was not replaced with a Republican.

Sure sounds like the state really is "that liberal".

Posted by: junior at July 25, 2017 03:38 PM (Q6qiA)

363 Trump's comments about AG Sessions make me uncomfortable too. But why can't Trump demand and get loyalty at that position like every other president does?
If Obama asked Holder to jump, he'd say, "How High?"

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:38 PM (7uYFy)

364 ***Faren thold

This.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at July 25, 2017 03:39 PM (HKM9P)

365 They pass some crapass amendment to O'care and the
Dems will never quit pointing and saying "Pubbies fouled it up, Pubbies fouled it up.

The Republicans in congress are beyond stupid.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:39 PM (cjVcY)

366 We are all suffering from terminal birth.

"No way, science will save us, we'll be immortal!"
-Instapundit

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:39 PM (39g3+)

367 If Obama asked Holder to jump, he'd say, "How High?"
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Real fuckin' high, duuuuuuuuude.

Posted by: Choomin' Barry at July 25, 2017 03:39 PM (vg8iE)

368 Trump's comments about AG Sessions make me uncomfortable too. But why can't Trump demand and get loyalty at that position like every other president does?
If Obama asked Holder to jump, he'd say, "How High?"
Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:38 PM (7uYFy)


Well White Men can't Jump.

You walked right into that one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 03:40 PM (5y11N)

369
Maine shares a long border with Canada

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 03:40 PM (lKyWE)

370 Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:37 PM (LHzKO

It does basically say no gun laws regard to ownership. That it's been interpreted through the years as saying differently doesn't change that fact.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 03:40 PM (A3edJ)

371 We looked at Maine for retirement. But he estate tax and retirement taxes in general were a killer. No thanks.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:40 PM (zJ3L1)

372 The only constituency the GOP cares about is the Media and the Dems.


The only constituency the GOP cares about is K Street.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:41 PM (cjVcY)

373 >>>Oh well, it's shot down, whatever it was

Whether it's called Choice or CARE, it's a sensible solution pushed by Sec Shulkin.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 03:41 PM (UCap9)

374 A new Portland, OR mother posted a photo on facehole of her breastfeeding her new spawn while taking a bong hit.

Posted by: Rosa DeLauro at July 25, 2017 03:42 PM (mcI77)

375 OT:

The Wiltshire Police have doubled-down and are threatening people who sent them politically incorrect tweets...

https://twitter.com/wiltshirepolice/status/889903731256512513

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 25, 2017 03:42 PM (vBeA5)

376 368, Well White Men can't Jump.



You walked right into that one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 03:40 PM (5y11N)
Lol. That said, I think Sessions is a good man and he was very loyal to Trump during the primaries and what's going on right now does make me feel rather sad for him.

Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 03:42 PM (a0IVu)

377
"No way, science will save us, we'll be immortal!"

-Instapundit
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Immortality seems more like a punishment than a reward.

Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 03:43 PM (aT+Bx)

378 "Well, fat guy," Collins said, "He's so unattractive it's unbelievable. Did you see the picture of him in his pajamas next to the bunny.the Playboy Bunny?"

So we have mean girls of about the emotional maturity of 8th grade girls in the Congress. GREAT!

Can someone who actually is a Republican who doesn't have a crush on the Democrats please primary Collins?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 03:43 PM (iVOAv)

379 >>The Wiltshire Police have doubled-down and are threatening people who sent them politically incorrect tweets...



https://twitter.com/wiltshirepolice/status/889903731256512513




The replies to that are epic!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 03:43 PM (NOIQH)

380 , I think Sessions is a good man and he was very loyal to Trump during the primaries and what's going on right now does make me feel rather sad for him.
Posted by: IC at July 25, 2017 03:42 PM (a0IVu)

Me too.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 03:43 PM (5y11N)

381 Sessions is a good man doing a poor job.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:44 PM (cjVcY)

382 >>>>>Trump's comments about AG Sessions make me uncomfortable too. But why
can't Trump demand and get loyalty at that position like every other
president does?

If Obama asked Holder to jump, he'd say, "How High?"
.
.
.Because Trump is an outsider and he keeps hiring DC Beltway insiders who actually view him as a flash in the pan showman who accidentally got elected and will be gone in four years and then they can get everything back to normal.

He needs to hire completely outside of the DC box. Sure there will be a steep learning curve and the bureaucrats will try to slow walk everything, but they are doing that already.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:44 PM (0pcwX)

383 I had hoped the President Trump would be good at managing things and handling people, cleaning up messes, and restructuring but it appears he's a lot of hot air and blather, he's a con man who talks a game but can't seem to carry it out. No wonder he went bankrupt so often.

I knew we weren't going to vote our way out of the burning times but I had hoped he'd be more professional and competent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:45 PM (39g3+)

384 A new Portland, OR mother posted a photo on facehole of her breastfeeding her new spawn while taking a bong hit.

Posted by: Rosa DeLauro at July 25, 2017 03:42 PM (mcI77)


Yeah, well I'm going to have to see some evidence, solid evidence before I can render judgment. Sometimes it's best not to jump to conclusions when there are so mammary variables involved.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:45 PM (EgwCt)

385 Everytime I refresh this page it opens it in a new tab. Anyone else have this going on?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:45 PM (mpXpK)

386 @338 The state is not that liberal

Portland is way beyond "that liberal". And Kinnebushport is old, establishment money - so, not on the Trump Train.

The rest of the state? Yeah, that's how LaPage got elected.

Posted by: DocJ at July 25, 2017 03:45 PM (NYS7S)

387 trump's comments about sessions enrage me just like his anti-intelligence community statements where he doubted the thorough, independent work of all 17 USA intelligence agencies ...

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 03:45 PM (AU4SY)

388 LOL Lizzy!

Favorite:

"I'm offended by clouds. Please ban clouds. And the letter "R". It offends me dreadfully. Please arrest "R" before it can offend again."

Posted by: SMFH at July 25, 2017 03:45 PM (s5Kql)

389 "[The problem with health care is] vast expense. And that expense is largely driven by government
interference, brutal lawsuits against doctors, and insurance companies
covering far more than they need to"

Also, the artificial curtailment of supply by what are in effect cartels.

In a normal market, when prices for a service are sky high, the market promptly responds by training and equipping more people to provide that service. Prices then come down.

Medicine isn't a normal market because the interests who are making a ton of money out of it have rigged the market and have curtailed access, which means supply can't respond with normal sprightliness.

The USA ranks #52 globally in number of licensed physicians per capita. Behind the likes of Kyrgystan.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 03:46 PM (ujwCG)

390
It does basically say no gun laws regard to ownership. That it's been interpreted through the years as saying differently doesn't change that fact.
Posted by: Jack Sock

++++

I would disagree, but it doesn't matter.

The 2nd Amendment does not protect you from dumb gun laws and if you can have the federal government override state health laws, than get ready for them to end state laws like concealed carry.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:46 PM (LHzKO)

391 Now it stopped.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:46 PM (mpXpK)

392 Vic, I just get the pop ups from the crap ads telling me I've just won an iPhone.

Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 03:47 PM (E4p3I)

393 352 I agree.


Posted by: Rosa DeLauro at July 25, 2017 03:33 PM (mcI77)

========

I know, right?
Posted by: Big Debbie Stabenow at July 25, 2017 03:36 PM (vg8iE)

+++

Don't be so mean! Not everyone can have a face and figure like me.

Posted by: Patty Murray at July 25, 2017 03:47 PM (2+gSO)

394 By the way. You have to appreciate the irony of McCain calling other people "bombastic loudmouths ".

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:47 PM (zJ3L1)

395 Grrrrrrrr.

Types/deletes over and over.

We are so boned. Elect Democrats IDGAF any more. Burn it down. Fucking burn it.

Posted by: USNtakim at July 25, 2017 03:47 PM (zZWkn)

396 Anthony Scaramucci, looks like a good pick.
Trump is beginning to thin out the beltway crowd.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:48 PM (cjVcY)

397 Is it two for one on trolls today ?

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:48 PM (zJ3L1)

398 PDT is learning on the job just how corrupt DC is and who he can trust and not trust....It's a work in progress...and anyway he is our only hope. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 03:49 PM (5y11N)

399
Wasn't Collins along with Olympia Snowe the two that gave Harry Reid the votes to proceed with the house vote on Obama Care then voted against it?

Posted by: YIKES! at July 25, 2017 03:50 PM (t6XCL)

400 People talking about how liberal Maine is, I still think a Republican Senator can get away with repealing Obamacare in a state that only went for Hillary by 3%.


Apparently everyone wants to make the case that Collins is being super smart here and doing what her constituents want.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:50 PM (LHzKO)

401
I had hoped the President Trump would be good at managing things and handling people, cleaning up messes, and restructuring but it appears he's a lot of hot air and blather, he's a con man who talks a game but can't seem to carry it out. No wonder he went bankrupt so often.


Good lord did you think the swamp was go___ to go without a fight?

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 03:50 PM (lKyWE)

402 >>By the way. You have to appreciate the irony of McCain calling other people "bombastic loudmouths ".

THIS


Also, let's not pretend Collins represents Maine anymore than McCain represents Arizona, Lindsey Graham represents, SC, etc.
After so many years in the Senate they represent themselves and DC, period. They have more respect and time for their fellow Senators of both parties than any of those icky non-donors in whatever city, home state.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 03:51 PM (NOIQH)

403 398
PDT is learning on the job just how corrupt DC is and who he can trust
and not trust....It's a work in progress...and anyway he is our only
hope. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 03:49 PM (5y11N)


His biggest mistake is not clearing out all the Obama personnel. He should have done that the first week in office.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:51 PM (mpXpK)

404 I had hoped the President Trump would be good at managing things and handling people, cleaning up messes, and restructuring but it appears he's a lot of hot air and blather, he's a con man who talks a game but can't seem to carry it out.
---
1. Get hired for a high profile job in a new field
2. From day 1, 75% + of your coworkers spend their entire day working to get you fired.
3. That 75% enables all of their friends (aka the MSM) to do everything they can 24/7 to get you fired.

Put youself in that position. Could you get anything at all done?


Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 03:51 PM (aT+Bx)

405 By the way. You have to appreciate the irony of McCain calling other people "bombastic loudmouths ".

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (iVOAv)

406 There is no fight in DC just the status quo...

Posted by: USNtakim at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (zZWkn)

407 Can someone who actually is a Republican who doesn't have a crush on the Democrats please primary Collins?

The theory is that Suzie Q really wants to be Governor (open seat - LePage is term limited) and needs to keep the vote in Portland quiet. She's denying, of course, that she's running.

All of the Dems lining up to run in what will likely be a nasty primary are lunatic fringe leftists who will try to out pinko each other for the Portland vote. Whoever survives that primary won't get jack from CD-2, so if Suzie can keep CD-1 (Portland, basically) quiet she's a lock.

The true joy would be then if LePage appointed himself to her seat. Heads would explode.

Posted by: DocJ at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (NYS7S)

408 The Wiltshire Police have doubled-down and are threatening people who sent them politically incorrect tweets...



The wankers DO know that Twitter is worldwide, don't they?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (Bd48Y)

409 OT, but I was thinking about this...

...sure, it was the UK, but will Charlie Gard go down as the first known Government-Ordered Post-Birth Abortion in the Anglosphere (setting an example that our Washington Bureaumonsters can't wait to follow)?

Or does this happen all the time and we just don't hear about it because the parents are too cowardly to make a stink about it?

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (CMbMd)

410 371 We looked at Maine for retirement. But he estate tax and retirement taxes in general were a killer. No thanks.

Maine has one of the oldest populations in the nation so people do retire there. Never really understood that. Wondering if it may be young people with ambition leave, and old ones who stay have stopped reproducing.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (kUmUV)

411 His biggest mistake is not clearing out all the Obama personnel. He should have done that the first week in office.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
-----
This.

Posted by: Dang at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (8b+oT)

412 Police placed the suspect into the back of a patrol car and began driving eastbound on Interstate 80, at which point the suspect slipped his cuffs, undressed in the backseat, and tossed his clothes out onto the freeway, according to officials.

When officers realized he was throwing clothes out of the car, "they also realized he had just defecated, started to eat his feces and spat feces at the officers", police said.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 03:53 PM (mcI77)

413 Mooch is known as a no bullshit guy in the industry. You don't get to that type of position being a pussy.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:53 PM (zJ3L1)

414
His biggest mistake is not clearing out all the Obama personnel. He should have done that the first week in office.
--

My guess is that couldn't be done because it would simply shut down the government, and cause epic problems, especially if there was no one around who knew the job.

Plus.. people protect their jobs and their secrets. Do you really think that the Obama holdovers would train new people? Hell, they want the government to shut down so they can impeach Trump.

Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 03:53 PM (aT+Bx)

415 His biggest mistake is not clearing out all the Obama personnel. He should have done that the first week in office.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

+++++

He just hired a press a Press Secretary that was a big Obama donor and voter, is pro gun control, pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro global warming nonsense and called Trump an idiot over and over again.

But Trump's totally draining the swamp.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (LHzKO)

416 Because Trump is an outsider and he keeps hiring DC Beltway insiders who actually view him as a flash in the pan showman who accidentally got elected and will be gone in four years and then they can get everything back to normal.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 03:44 PM (0pcwX)

Oh Trump may be gone in four years, but things aren't going to be "getting back to normal." Trump --by his mere existence--has already seen to that.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (7uYFy)

417 >>Or does this happen all the time and we just don't hear about it because the parents are too cowardly to make a stink about it?


Pretty sure it's that one. This is the same healthcare system that implemented the Liverpool Care Pathway, with cash bonuses to hospitals that exceed their kill quota.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (NOIQH)

418 We've got the White House, the Senate, and the House, but we really need to get control of the Council of Elrond in order to get rid of Obamacare. You know where to donate.

Posted by: Lord of the Harry Potter Star Trek Wars at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (qYCgM)

419 I had hoped the President Trump would be good at managing things and handling people, cleaning up messes, and restructuring but it appears he's a lot of hot air and blather, he's a con man who talks a game but can't seem to carry it out. No wonder he went bankrupt so often.


Mary Cloggenstein? That you?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:55 PM (EgwCt)

420 Being fat does not make a person dumb. Being dumb makes a person fat.
Hon, can you get me some icecream while you're up? What?!? Well who the hell ate it?

Posted by: Eromero at July 25, 2017 03:55 PM (zLDYs)

421 Medicine isn't a normal market because the interests who are making a ton of money out of it have rigged the market and have curtailed access, which means supply can't respond with normal sprightliness.

. . .
Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 03:46 PM (ujwCG)
***********************************


You talkin' to me?

Posted by: AMA & Insurance Cos at July 25, 2017 03:55 PM (cjVcY)

422 The wankers DO know that Twitter is worldwide, don't they?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 03:52 PM (Bd48Y)

---

They do now.

Heh.

Another favorite of mine:

"This is twitter you seat sniffing biff
Everyone & Everything on twitter is fair game, always has been. Go back to facebook poppet"

Posted by: SMFH at July 25, 2017 03:55 PM (s5Kql)

423 Let me make future presidential appointments easy:

1. If you've ever been appointed by Obama, your application is rejected.

2. If you've ever been appointed by anyone with the last name Bush, your application is rejected.

Now let me make all future personnel decisions easy:

"You're fired."

Posted by: Furious George at July 25, 2017 03:55 PM (j+dfT)

424
He just hired a press a Press Secretary that was a big Obama donor and voter, is pro gun control, pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro global warming nonsense and called Trump an idiot over and over again. But Trump's totally draining the swamp.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (LHzKO)

He's a communications director not a policy advisor

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 03:56 PM (lKyWE)

425 We really liked Vermont also. In general very libertarian. Good on the Second no Amendment. But again the estate and retirement taxes were a killer. That's a real shame because it's one of my favorite states. Other than the ex New Yorkers that is.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2017 03:56 PM (zJ3L1)

426 414 My guess is that couldn't be done because it would simply shut down the government, and cause epic problems, especially if there was no one around who knew the job.

Plus.. people protect their jobs and their secrets. Do you really think that the Obama holdovers would train new people? Hell, they want the government to shut down so they can impeach Trump.


Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2017 03:53 PM (aT+Bx)


That and it would be tied up in HR hearings against the Fed Workers Union FOREVER, and they'd still get to keep their jobs anyway while it was in dispute/appeal.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 03:56 PM (CMbMd)

427 My guess is that couldn't be done because it would simply shut down the
government, and cause epic problems, especially if there was no one
around who knew the job.
---
How is shutting down the government a worse option than letting it continue to operate?

Posted by: Methos at July 25, 2017 03:56 PM (3Liv/)

428 I had hoped the President Obama would be good at managing things and handling people, cleaning up messes, and restructuring but it appears he's a lot of hot air and blather, he's a con man who talks a game but can't seem to carry it out.


Posted by: Roy at July 25, 2017 03:56 PM (7n4KQ)

429 He just hired a press a Press Secretary that was a big Obama donor and voter, is pro gun control, pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro global warming nonsense and called Trump an idiot over and over again.

But Trump's totally draining the swamp.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (LHzKO)
********************************************

Say it ain't so.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 03:57 PM (cjVcY)

430 Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 03:55 PM (EgwCt)


No; Probably Bill Wynn. The Cloggenstein sock purposely spells almost everything incorrectly.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 03:57 PM (iVOAv)

431 "When officers realized he was throwing clothes out of the car, 'they
also realized he had just defecated, started to eat his feces and spat
feces at the officers', police said."

Wow. Getting McCain there for the floor vote was harder than I thought.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 03:57 PM (ujwCG)

432 has Collins looked in a mirror lately? her Katherine Hepburn impersonation with the shaky voice isn't helping, either.....
Posted by: the Butcher at July 25, 2017 03:23 PM (KtAmr)

Olympia Snowe had the same problem.

What is it with these Maine senators? Is it the air up there?

I should talk, right? I live in Florida - home of the nutcase news

Posted by: Marybeth at July 25, 2017 03:57 PM (CmURZ)

433 Betrayal is our greatest challenge to overcome. One thing you got to say about Democrats - they don't have to worry about betrayal on their side.

Yoohoo! Over here...

Posted by: Bernie Sanders Primary Voter at July 25, 2017 03:57 PM (joFoi)

434 We've got the White House, the Senate, and the House, but we really need to get control of the Council of Elrond in order to get rid of Obamacare. You know where to donate.
Posted by: Lord of the Harry Potter Star Trek Wars at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM

And The Secret Chamber of Tellrudia. We need all the members of the Secret Chamber of Tellruidia on our side to get rid of Obamacare.

Donate now. Your very life depends on it.

Posted by: : Lord of the Harry Potter Star Trek Wars at July 25, 2017 03:58 PM (aT+Bx)

435 Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 03:46 PM (ujwCG)

Obamacare has little or nothing to do with actual Health care costs.... except to raise them through taxes.

O'care is all about the mechanism used to PAY those costs.... its arguing about who picks up the check... How much the Government will pay for (Medicaid expansion)... and how much the Healthy and prosperous will pay of OTHER peoples healthcare costs, through a gerrymandered Insurance system.

The Repubs are continuing down the same path.... tinkering with WHO pays... and not fixing a damn thing...

Because to actually FIX it, wouldn't be 'nice'....

Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 03:58 PM (NgKpN)

436 He just hired a press a Press Secretary that was a big Obama donor and voter, is pro gun control, pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro global warming nonsense and called Trump an idiot over and over again. But Trump's totally draining the swamp.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (LHzKO)

He's a communications director not a policy advisor
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic



Still. I'd rather have someone that had his back than someone who is ethically opposed to him.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 03:58 PM (Bd48Y)

437 Apparently everyone wants to make the case that Collins is being super smart here and doing what her constituents want.

Its more like this: they like the way she is and want her to continue being that way.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 03:59 PM (39g3+)

438 399


Wasn't Collins along with Olympia Snowe the two that gave Harry Reid
the votes to proceed with the house vote on Obama Care then voted
against it?

Posted by: YIKES! at July 25, 2017 03:50 PM (t6XCL)

the original vote in 2009 was 60 Democrats and 0 Republicans. RINO Bunting of KY did not vote.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:59 PM (mpXpK)

439 Name one fucking thing that ever drifted rightward, I'm just so sick of congress... Types/deletes Over and over again. fuck.

Posted by: USNtakim at July 25, 2017 03:59 PM (zZWkn)

440 He's a communications director not a policy advisor
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic

+++++

I'm sure that will never bleed into any decisions Trump will make.

Couldn't he find one guy that was good at his job and was an actual conservative? What's with all the NYC liberal bankers?

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:00 PM (LHzKO)

441 Instead of destroying Obamacare, why don't we just wield it to destroy our enemies? We would be unstoppable!

Posted by: Boromir at July 25, 2017 04:00 PM (qYCgM)

442 I can't find the committee vote.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:00 PM (mpXpK)

443 Wasn't Collins along with Olympia Snowe the two that gave Harry Reid
the votes to proceed with the house vote on Obama Care then voted
against it?

Posted by: YIKES!
+++++

It was either Collins or Snowe that allowed ObamaCare to get out the Committe to proceed, but that wouldn't have really stopped it.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:01 PM (LHzKO)

444
Still. I'd rather have someone that had his back than someone who is ethically opposed to him.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 03:58 PM (Bd48Y)

That's what's pissing me off. No one is actively helping him. Either Trump is as terrible s the media has always said or they all buy into this Russian hoax and think that Trump is going --and don't want to be associated with him.
Something is going to give. And soon.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 25, 2017 04:01 PM (7uYFy)

445
Personally, as someone who has *nearly* experienced both business and personal bankruptcy, I kinda think that the learning experience provides a benefit over those who just *shrug* their shoulders at the topic and laugh at nineteen trillion dollars in debt.

But feel free to sign on with a divorce lawyer with no experience. I'm sure you'll get what you deserve in the end.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 25, 2017 04:01 PM (EgwCt)

446 Couldn't he find one guy that was good at his job and was an actual conservative? What's with all the NYC liberal bankers?

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:00 PM (LHzKO)
*************************

Maybe the Party of Stupid runs deeper than we realize.

Posted by: gNewt at July 25, 2017 04:01 PM (cjVcY)

447 It was either Collins or Snowe that allowed ObamaCare to get out the Committe to proceed, but that wouldn't have really stopped it.



IIRC, Snowe.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 04:02 PM (Bd48Y)

448
Yoohoo! Over here...
Posted by: Bernie Sanders Primary Voter at July 25, 2017 03:57 PM (joFoi)

++

That reminds me, what kind of chicken shit steals his neighbor's Sunday newspaper. What a wanker. And millions love this guy.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 25, 2017 04:02 PM (2+gSO)

449 441 Instead of destroying Obamacare, why don't we just wield it to destroy our enemies? We would be unstoppable!
Posted by: Boromir at July 25, 2017 04:00 PM (qYCgM)


Well played.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 04:03 PM (Niu5G)

450 Charlie Gard Care 2020

Posted by: Single Player at July 25, 2017 04:03 PM (qYCgM)

451 He just hired a press a Press Secretary that was a big Obama donor and voter, is pro gun control, pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro global warming nonsense and called Trump an idiot over and over again. But Trump's totally draining the swamp.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 03:54 PM (LHzKO)

He's a communications director not a policy advisor
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic



Still. I'd rather have someone that had his back than someone who is ethically opposed to him.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 03:58 PM (Bd48Y)

It would be a mistake to attribute definitive political leanings to a non-political person who was in finiance in left wing circles and who probably gave to many differant politicians and causes just to have an in.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 04:04 PM (5y11N)

452 425 We really liked Vermont also.

Vermont is great if you are really rich, or really poor. Also has a nice matching thing if you plan ahead and get a long term care insurance policy before you need it. Other than that, no.

I'm somewhat past 59 and as soon as we can I'm out (wifey maybe not so much - interesting times). Property taxes will eat you alive. A small single story ranch around 1000 square feet on a postage stamp lot in the town my office is in will have property taxes in excess of $10,000 a year. I live a bit farther out and we're now over $5000 and going up 3%-5% a year.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 25, 2017 04:04 PM (kUmUV)

453
Couldn't he find one guy that was good at his job and was an actual conservative? What's with all the NYC liberal bankers?

Like Sean Spicer?

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 04:04 PM (lKyWE)

454

the original vote in 2009 was 60 Democrats and 0 Republicans. RINO Bunting of KY did not vote.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 03:59 PM (mpXpK)


I distinctly remembering a vote prior to the final vote which paved the way for the final vote in the house. That's the one in which Collins and Snowe voted in favor of.

Posted by: YIKES! at July 25, 2017 04:05 PM (t6XCL)

455 I'm somewhat past 59 and as soon as we can I'm out (wifey maybe not so much - interesting times). Property taxes will eat you alive. A small single story ranch around 1000 square feet on a postage stamp lot in the town my office is in will have property taxes in excess of $10,000 a year. I live a bit farther out and we're now over $5000 and going up 3%-5% a year.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 25, 2017 04:04 PM (kUmUV)

+++

That's brutal.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 25, 2017 04:06 PM (2+gSO)

456 I just went to Snow's web site. She voted for both ACA and the reconciliation act.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:06 PM (mpXpK)

457 Couldn't he find one guy that was good at his job and was an actual conservative? What's with all the NYC liberal bankers?

Like Sean Spicer?
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic




Like how about tapping an unemployed/underemployed very eloquent moron from here? We have more than a few.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 04:07 PM (Bd48Y)

458 Correction, she dis NOT vote for the reconciliation bill. She did vote for the ACA to leave the committee.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:08 PM (mpXpK)

459 1. Get hired for a high profile job in a new field
2. From day 1, 75% + of your coworkers spend their entire day working to get you fired.
3. That 75% enables all of their friends (aka the MSM) to do everything they can 24/7 to get you fired.

Put youself in that position. Could you get anything at all done?


Posted by: shibumi

Do I have a flamethrower?

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 04:08 PM (9TU00)

460 The girls will still receive our support at election time. You can bank on it. Just ask Reince.

Posted by: Ronna Romney McDaniel at July 25, 2017 04:08 PM (mcI77)

461
Like how about tapping an unemployed/underemployed very eloquent moron from here? We have more than a few.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 04:07 PM (Bd48Y)


I'm good with that

Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (lKyWE)

462 Couldn't he find one guy that was good at his job and was an actual conservative? What's with all the NYC liberal bankers?

Like Sean Spicer?
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic




Like how about tapping an unemployed/underemployed very eloquent moron from here? We have more than a few.



--
And an addendum:
Not just from AoSHQ specifically, but from outside the swamp.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (Bd48Y)

463 Couldn't he find one guy that was good at his job and was an actual conservative? What's with all the NYC liberal bankers?

Like Sean Spicer?
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic




Like how about tapping an unemployed/underemployed very eloquent moron from here? We have more than a few.
Posted by: rickb223

I still want Chris Plante on the podium, just to have the media piss themselves

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 04:09 PM (9TU00)

464 I still want Chris Plante on the podium, just to have the media piss themselves



I want D Lamp.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 25, 2017 04:10 PM (Bd48Y)

465 Colins voted against the ACA and for the reconciliation bill.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:11 PM (mpXpK)

466 It would be a mistake to attribute definitive political leanings to a non-political person who was in finiance in left wing circles and who probably gave to many differant politicians and causes just to have an in.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

++++

Go look at the guy's tweets and tell me this is someone you trust to have the President's ear.

If we're going to complain about liberal Republicans like Snowe, might want to be careful about who you hire in such a prominent position.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (LHzKO)

467 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (mpXpK)

468 "Also has a nice matching thing if you plan ahead and get a long term care insurance policy before you need it."

Mercatus ranks the state of Varmint as #40 out of 50 for long term fiscal solvency. I wouldn't bet on that matching dealio being around for too much longer.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 25, 2017 04:12 PM (ujwCG)

469 Put youself in that position. Could you get anything at all done?

Yeah, by firing people who are trying o prevent me from doing my job. That would be my first priority: clean house, then get the work done.

How can you seek justice if so many of your workers are interested in only social "justice?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (39g3+)

470 Colins voted against the ACA and for the reconciliation bill.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
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As far as I'm concerned, she might as well have voted for ObamaACre like every other Democrat considering she's getting in the way of a repeal.

She's not even letting a bill proceed for a vote.

Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (LHzKO)

471 I want D Lamp.

D Lamp creates a special place for the press:

https://youtu.be/e2PyeXRwhCE

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 25, 2017 04:13 PM (IZPn8)

472 "Instead of destroying Obamacare, why don't we just wield it to destroy our enemies? We would be unstoppable!"

also known as, Cruz' s vote to use the Import Export Bank as a tool to hurt boycotters of Israel.

yeah, I don't like the BDS movement either, and I like its fans less. but using a semi-public slush fund to reward friends and harm enemies is, literally, fascism.

and Cruz going for this after arguing against the i.e.b. on those very terms is despicable.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 25, 2017 04:16 PM (kqI/Q)

473 Time to sweep and mop. Any volunteers?

Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 04:18 PM (sf2BM)

474 I distinctly remembering a vote prior to the final vote which paved the
way for the final vote in the house. That's the one in which Collins and
Snowe voted in favor of.
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I think Snowe helped to vote it out of committee due to 'the call of history'

Posted by: Methos at July 25, 2017 04:20 PM (3Liv/)

475 I've never been in favor of it but we need a third party to be formed now. Trump is in the best position to do it and should do it tomorrow figuratively speaking. I think he needs to give a speech declaring he is resigning as a member of the GOP and forming the Citizen Party.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 04:25 PM (A3edJ)

476 yeah, trump's biggest mistake was running as a republican. Look at what the party does to its own.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 25, 2017 05:57 PM (AU4SY)

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