Of Course: Hawaiian Judge Claims Authority To Rewrite Travel Ban, Again

The law is whatever a Hillary Voter says it is.

Hawaii judge late Thursday ordered a nationwide loosening of President Donald Trump’s temporary ban on U.S. entry for some travelers from six Muslim-majority countries, ruling the administration’s strict approach contradicted a recent Supreme Court ruling.
The decision is a fresh legal blow for the president just two weeks after a Supreme Court ruling allowed the administration to implement its travel ban against refugees and foreign nationals from six countries who have no connection to the U.S.
The justices said Mr. Trump’s administration couldn’t enforce the ban against people with bona fide relationships to people or organizations in the U.S. Days after, the Trump administration adopted a narrow view of what relationships counted for an exemption from the ban.

Appeal.

Posted by: Ace at 06:27 PM

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1 How about a nice Hawaiian punch?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2017 06:16 PM (IqV8l)

2 Idiot

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 14, 2017 06:17 PM (J+eG2)

3 Perfect Bertram!

Posted by: Tami at July 14, 2017 06:18 PM (Enq6K)

4 Is there something in the water in Hawaii that causes terminal Stupid?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 14, 2017 06:18 PM (J+eG2)

5 Can this a-hole be impeached? Do it, and do it now! Otherwise, you'll be dealing with this shit for the entire administration.

Posted by: very irredeemably undude at July 14, 2017 06:18 PM (2X7pN)

6 Can no one rid me of this meddlesome judge?

Posted by: Trump at July 14, 2017 06:19 PM (Enq6K)

7 that judge needs to go on a long vacation
or find himself a hobby

Posted by: concrete girl at July 14, 2017 06:19 PM (EqvVS)

8 Didn't this asshole try it previously and even the 9th circus told him no?

Posted by: buzzion at July 14, 2017 06:20 PM (z/Ubi)

9 Fuck appeal, that's what Trump did and overwhelmingly won at the highest level. It's time for impeachments.

Posted by: mugiwara at July 14, 2017 06:20 PM (I7hGG)

10 Has this ever happened before where the SC rules on something and a lower court tries to undo the ruling?

Posted by: Tami at July 14, 2017 06:21 PM (Enq6K)

11 We are nation of feels, not of men, not of laws.

Posted by: wooga at July 14, 2017 06:21 PM (3I7wr)

12 The Supreme Court ruled on this, but Hawaii supersedes, ya sure.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 14, 2017 06:23 PM (6Ll1u)

13 9
Fuck appeal, that's what Trump did and overwhelmingly won at the highest level. It's time for impeachments.

Posted by: mugiwara at July 14, 2017 06:20 PM (I7hGG)
Next step. Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 14, 2017 06:23 PM (tbOMB)

14 Ignore the ruling.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 14, 2017 06:24 PM (R/01c)

15 Everyone knew this would happen the moment SC put in those exemptions without specifying what relationships were in and out.

Posted by: IC at July 14, 2017 06:24 PM (a0IVu)

16 Ignore him.

He's in violation of SCOTUS.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 14, 2017 06:25 PM (oVJmc)

17 It's worthy of note how many "refugees" were dispatched to Obama's home haven of Hawaii during the Obama administration. Basically zero.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 14, 2017 06:25 PM (ujwCG)

18 And what happens if the Supreme Court stomps this clown?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 14, 2017 06:25 PM (J+eG2)

19 First the judge rules, in essence, that the President can't issue Executive Orders. Now, after being told by the Supreme Court that the President can issue Executive Orders and that Trump's order passed constitutional muster on all but two points, the judge decides that the Supreme Court doesn't mean what it said.

This judge appears to understand neither the law nor the Constitution. In which case, he should be doing something else for a living than being a Federal judge.

Posted by: AnotherLurkingLurkerWhatLurks at July 14, 2017 06:26 PM (4euOh)

20
14 Ignore the ruling.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 14, 2017 06:24 PM (R/01c)

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Yup.

Posted by: Soona at July 14, 2017 06:27 PM (Fmupd)

21
Everyone knew this would happen the moment SC put in those exemptions without specifying what relationships were in and out.
Posted by: IC at July 14, 2017 06:24 PM

Are we not all related?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2017 06:27 PM (IqV8l)

22 18 And what happens if the Supreme Court stomps this clown?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 14, 2017 06:25 PM (J+eG2)

Then he'll have achieved his immediate goal - allowing more Muslims into the country.

Ignore him. Go ahead with the policy as written.

Dare a Federal or State cop to implement this judge's rule - and humiliate the fuck in the process.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 14, 2017 06:28 PM (R/01c)

23 So, the USA is not run by the President.

The law of the land is not determined by the Supreme Court.

The USA is run by and all laws are ajudicated by random Hawaiian judges.

/can we arrange for ALL immigration to be routed through Hawaii?

Posted by: shibumi at July 14, 2017 06:28 PM (aT+Bx)

24 Hawaiian judge declares SCOTUS unconstitutional.

Posted by: Aunt Luna at July 14, 2017 06:28 PM (Zd2ZF)

25

I wasn't aware we had another president in Hawaii??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Now In Bold at July 14, 2017 06:28 PM (Wli2K)

26 Deport the judge.

Yes, I know.

Do it anyway. Call it 'forced exile' if it makes you feel better.

Posted by: Methos at July 14, 2017 06:29 PM (3Liv/)

27 So, We don't do Nood anymore?

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2017 06:29 PM (9g/6M)

28 Hmmm, if district court judges can overrule the Supreme Court, then why not encourage conservative judges to re-write Roe v. Wade?

Posted by: The Rewriting Hat at July 14, 2017 06:29 PM (vBeA5)

29

So, We don't do Nood anymore?

Some people are just inconsiderate.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Now In Bold at July 14, 2017 06:29 PM (Wli2K)

30 The SCOTUS decision was preliminary anyway, wasn't it? The court still has to issue their full decision.

There shouldn't be any need to appeal, since its already on the docket.

The administration has grounds to say they're following the decision the court issued, since the court left the ambiguity to be interpreted.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 14, 2017 06:30 PM (oVJmc)

31 28 Hmmm, if district court judges can overrule the Supreme Court, then why not encourage conservative judges to re-write Roe v. Wade?
Posted by: The Rewriting Hat at July 14, 2017 06:29 PM (vBeA5)

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Good point.

Posted by: Soona at July 14, 2017 06:30 PM (Fmupd)

32 Trump should call that judge and say-

first you will blow me

then hang up.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2017 06:30 PM (aMlLZ)

33 I agree. Ignore the ruling. What's this judge going to do other that have a hissy fit?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 14, 2017 06:30 PM (0mRoj)

34 Can you ignore a Supreme Court injunction? Will they take weeks or months to decide?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: "John Miller," Presidential Strategist at July 14, 2017 06:31 PM (6K44c)

35

this judge went ROGUE

case is closed

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Now In Bold at July 14, 2017 06:31 PM (Wli2K)

36 So at what point does the administration simply ignore this kind of shit?

Posted by: Apostate at July 14, 2017 06:31 PM (n1dE4)

37 Bye Bye DACA.

Buh BYE!

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at July 14, 2017 06:31 PM (xmlAN)

38 Ah, but Trump has picked up the Overton Window and physically carried it about 10 miles rightward. Now all the judge can do is quibble over the details of the ban. But the ban now exists. In the Obama era, the door was wiiiiiide open.

Posted by: zombie at July 14, 2017 06:31 PM (DQ4Fv)

39 4,
" Is there something in the water in Hawaii that causes terminal Stupid?"

Spam poisoning.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 14, 2017 06:32 PM (d3wbb)

40 Supreme Court precedence? What's that?

Posted by: Hawaiian Jurisprudence at July 14, 2017 06:32 PM (toi7g)

41 Has this ever happened before where the SC rules on something and a lower court tries to undo the ruling?

Posted by: Tami at July 14, 2017 06:21 PM (Enq6K)

Only when leftists lose.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 14, 2017 06:32 PM (/o9Qk)

42 Fire him. He's higher authority than the Supreme court?. This is the buddy of Obama whom. Obama went to visit in Hawaii before the 9th circuit idiocy?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2017 06:32 PM (iVOAv)

43 File for a stay with the 9th. If refused, then consult the S.C. justice in charge of that circuit Justice Kennedy who can issue a stay on that decision until the Scotus gets involved.

This is how contempt of the law ripens.

Posted by: whig at July 14, 2017 06:32 PM (W9rTq)

44 When you eat ham and pineapple pizza...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2017 06:32 PM (IqV8l)

45

Someone need to go full Teen Vogue on this fucking Hawaiian judge.

Posted by: Max Power at July 14, 2017 06:33 PM (q177U)

46
Are we at the part in the left-wing fake news farce when this totalitarian judge says he's getting death threats, yet?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Now In Bold at July 14, 2017 06:33 PM (Wli2K)

47 They must have some bad shit shit on Robert's, what did he do to get blacked mailed?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 14, 2017 06:34 PM (6Ll1u)

48 30 The SCOTUS decision was preliminary anyway, wasn't it? The court still has to issue their full decision.

There shouldn't be any need to appeal, since its already on the docket.

The administration has grounds to say they're following the decision the court issued, since the court left the ambiguity to be interpreted.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 14, 2017 06:30 PM (oVJmc)

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You're correct. I'd forgotten about that. They'll hear the full case in October I believe.

But that still gives the muzzies almost a whole year to immigrate.

Posted by: Soona at July 14, 2017 06:34 PM (Fmupd)

49 You can order your own judge within an Amazon Prime membership.

Posted by: ryukyu at July 14, 2017 06:34 PM (WGVbt)

50

it's too bad that John Roberts is the George W Bush of Supreme Court Chief Justices

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Now In Bold at July 14, 2017 06:34 PM (Wli2K)

51 Trump should call that judge and say-

first you will blow me

then hang up.
-----

hahahaha.

Yes.

Do it PDT. DO IT!!!!!

And if you cannot, please have someone else do it. I bet Steve Bannon would enjoy that kind of thing.

Posted by: shibumi at July 14, 2017 06:34 PM (aT+Bx)

52 4 Is there something in the water in Hawaii that causes terminal Stupid?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 14, 2017 06:18 PM (J+eG2)

Hawaii, California, Oregon, North Korea - the Pacific Ocean gets you f'd up.

Posted by: josephistan at July 14, 2017 06:34 PM (ANIFC)

53 Has this ever happened before where the SC rules on something and a lower court tries to undo the ruling?

In the Book of Mormon they describe a system with a sort of pyramid of Judges (not too different, we have that now), but here's the interesting part. If a ruling came down at level N, a certain number of Judges at level N-1 could group together and overturn that ruling. I don't know if this is common practice in other countries, or whether there are known bad side effects, but it sounds like a hell of a lot better than our current "eight robed masters are kings of the US and they cannot be overruled".

But I guess nobody told this Hawaii Judge we don't actually let this happen here, and certainly not by a single person.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2017 06:35 PM (jhqr1)

54 More like the Mitt Romney.

Posted by: Hawaiian Jurisprudence at July 14, 2017 06:35 PM (toi7g)

55
Are we at the part in the left-wing fake news farce when this totalitarian judge says he's getting death threats, yet?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Now In Bold at July 14, 2017 06:33 PM

He found a noose at the luau.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2017 06:35 PM (IqV8l)

56 His name was Peter Smith.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 14, 2017 06:35 PM (TwwWO)

57 55
Are we at the part in the left-wing fake news farce when this totalitarian judge says he's getting death threats, yet?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Now In Bold at July 14, 2017 06:33 PM

He found a noose at the luau.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2017 06:35 PM (IqV8l)

He couldn't get leied.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 14, 2017 06:36 PM (0mRoj)

58

He found a noose at the luau.

And a cursed Tiki idol!

Posted by: Peter Brady at July 14, 2017 06:36 PM (Wli2K)

59 50

it's too bad that John Roberts is the George W Bush of Supreme Court Chief Justices
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Now In Bold at July 14, 2017 06:34 PM (Wli2K)

He's still the fourth best judge on a nine member court.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 14, 2017 06:36 PM (Xuv2G)

60 "Pacific Gateway Center is a local refugee resettlement site which offers assistance and support to refugees as they begin their resettlement in the United States. Families and individuals from all over the world find it necessary to flee from their homes in fear of persecution and choose the United States as a new home offering safety and opportunity. Hawaii is an important gateway city in the United States."

http://www.pacificgatewaycenter.org/refugee-services.html

Posted by: SMFH at July 14, 2017 06:36 PM (s5Kql)

61 Are we at the part in the left-wing fake news farce when this totalitarian judge says he's getting death threats, yet?

*rapidly deletes pending comment*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 14, 2017 06:37 PM (LTHVh)

62 60 "Pacific Gateway Center is a local refugee resettlement site which offers assistance and support to refugees as they begin their resettlement in the United States. Families and individuals from all over the world find it necessary to flee from their homes in fear of persecution and choose the United States as a new home offering safety and opportunity. Hawaii is an important gateway city in the United States."

http://www.pacificgatewaycenter.org/refugee-services.html
Posted by: SMFH at July 14, 2017 06:36 PM (s5Kql)

So what you're saying is this is where Yakuza retire?

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 14, 2017 06:37 PM (Xuv2G)

63 He found a noose at the luau.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2017 06:35 PM (IqV8l)

He couldn't get leied.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 14, 2017 06:36 PM (0mRoj)

The death threat came via email and he thought it was just spam.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 14, 2017 06:37 PM (4ErVI)

64 Is this the same judge who overruled a previous EO with the reasoning that he didn't like some of the things PDT said about immigrants and Muslims, even though they weren't part of the actual wording of the order?

Posted by: Aunt Luna at July 14, 2017 06:37 PM (Zd2ZF)

65 There's something kind of yeeesh about a place that's proud of the ukulele.

Posted by: josephistan at July 14, 2017 06:38 PM (ANIFC)

66 One aspect of this decision is to let in whole boatloads of refugees that otherwise wouldn't get in at all. The decision may get reversed, but this practical effect won't be.

I wonder how many will wind up in Hawaii.

This judge is an ass hole buddy of Obama.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 14, 2017 06:38 PM (+7/1f)

67 "And a cursed Tiki idol!"

That was me.

Posted by: Robert Reiiich at July 14, 2017 06:38 PM (BO/km)

68 So what you're saying is this is where Yakuza retire?
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 14, 2017 06:37 PM (Xuv2G)

---

That's more true than you think.

Posted by: SMFH at July 14, 2017 06:38 PM (s5Kql)

69 He found a noose at the luau.

And a cursed Tiki idol!
===

Up your butt, Jobu.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at July 14, 2017 06:39 PM (xmlAN)

70 As a practical matter, who does a Hawaiian District Judge make the State Department issue a visa?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 14, 2017 06:39 PM (LTHVh)

71 Who should independence first, Puerto Rico or Hawaii?

Posted by: josephistan at July 14, 2017 06:40 PM (ANIFC)

72 Wouldn't the denied applicant have to appeal his denial?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 14, 2017 06:40 PM (LTHVh)

73 Impeach and convict.

I've had enough of this asshole, and I bet a lot of other people have, too. If he wants to be the President, let him run for the office.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 14, 2017 06:40 PM (SRKgf)

74

As a practical matter, who does a Hawaiian District Judge make the State Department issue a visa?

To a non-American citizen, a.k.a. a foreigner, a.k.a. a citizen of another nation.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 14, 2017 06:41 PM (Wli2K)

75 The thing I don't get is this - they're acting as if the u.s. is under some legal obligation to admit anyone except for a very, very few, whereas the exact opposite is the case.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 14, 2017 06:41 PM (BFSn1)

76 Makes Plinkett Oh face.

Posted by: Max Power at July 14, 2017 06:41 PM (q177U)

77 who how, same diff

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 14, 2017 06:41 PM (LTHVh)

78 So what you're saying is this is where Yakuza retire?

Ferdinand Marcos, the dictator from the Philippines, escaped to Hawaii when the people threw his rotten ass out. He flew out of Clark AFB in two C130s. One had his family, the second had all the loot they could carry.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2017 06:41 PM (jhqr1)

79 Send every single person the judge wants in this country to the island that judge resides on.

I'll wait.

Posted by: PBJ1515 at July 14, 2017 06:41 PM (PsdJu)

80 Fuck that judge sideways with a pineapple.

Posted by: Gorilla Pundit at July 14, 2017 06:41 PM (7ciu+)

81 Did the Judge issue a list of names that need visas?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 14, 2017 06:41 PM (LTHVh)

82 Should never have made their shitty little island a state.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (xmlAN)

83 79 Send every single person the judge wants in this country to the island that judge resides on.

I'll wait.
Posted by: PBJ1515 at July 14, 2017 06:41 PM (PsdJu)

It might tip over and capsize.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (0mRoj)

84 /can we arrange for ALL immigration to be routed through Hawaii?

Posted by: shibumi at July 14, 2017 06:28 PM (aT+Bx)

Make Hawaii a holding center for Muslim immigrants while they're being investigated. And take your time on the latter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (SRKgf)

85 lol Insomniac

Posted by: SMFH at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (s5Kql)

86 O - tay !

Well after 5, w/o invoking "the clause", so here goes:

*goes to freezer, removes shotglass and stein*
*fills shotglass from bottle in freezer*
*fills stein from bottle in freezer*

To Ace, the Horde, and PDT !
You've all been on fire today !
Confusion to our enemies !

*makes "toast" gesture with filled shotglass*
*tosses back shot, chases with ice-cold beer*

Aaaahhhhhh !

(gotta say, that confusion toast seems to have been working exceptionally well lately ...)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (Mcvvl)

87 Should never have made their shitty little island a state.

We needed a coaling station.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (LTHVh)

88

he's Judge ISIS as far I'm concerned

this Shit-On-The-Bench is determined to let in muslim jihadis

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (Wli2K)

89 64
Is this the same judge who overruled a previous EO with the reasoning
that he didn't like some of the things PDT said about immigrants and
Muslims, even though they weren't part of the actual wording of the
order?

Posted by: Aunt Luna at July 14, 2017 06:37 PM (Zd2ZF)

Yes, things he 'said during the campaign'.....this judge and some of the 9th circuit judges sited that. I believe there was an East coast judge that did too.

Posted by: Tami at July 14, 2017 06:43 PM (Enq6K)

90 47 They must have some bad shit shit on Robert's, what did he do to get blacked mailed?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 14, 2017 06:34 PM (6Ll1u)

Butt stuff.

Or gorillas.

Or gorilla butt stuff.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at July 14, 2017 06:43 PM (tbOMB)

91 Ferdinand Marcos, the dictator from the Philippines, escaped to Hawaii when the people threw his rotten ass out. He flew out of Clark AFB in two C130s. One had his family, the second had all the loot they could carry.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2017 06:41 PM (jhqr1)

It was his dowry.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 14, 2017 06:43 PM (SRKgf)

92 "Bye Bye DACA."

If I got this right, DACA is illegal but Trump didn't want to look heartless. So a bunch of states are suing, which will force his hand.

"Hey, I didn't want to, but the courts forced me."

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 14, 2017 06:43 PM (+7/1f)

93 I'm pretty sick and tired of judges legislating from the bench.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 14, 2017 06:43 PM (/o9Qk)

94 Is this the same judge who overruled a previous EO with the reasoning that he didn't like some of the things PDT said about immigrants and Muslims, even though they weren't part of the actual wording of the order?

Yep. We should use that precedent to get rid of Obamacare. Roberts said it was a tax, Obama said it wasn't. Well, now that we're taking tweets and campaign speeches into account, let's have a do-over.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2017 06:43 PM (jhqr1)

95
We needed a coaling station.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (LTHVh)

They became a state in 1959.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 14, 2017 06:43 PM (lKyWE)

96 And a cursed Tiki idol!
Posted by: Peter Brady at July 14, 2017 06:36 PM

Russia, Russia, Russia!

Posted by: Jan Brady, feeling left out once again at July 14, 2017 06:43 PM (aT+Bx)

97 82 Should never have made their shitty little island a state.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (xmlAN)

It's true. They've resented the annexation to this day. Of course if we didn't the Japanese or Germans would have, and history would have taken a much different course.

Posted by: josephistan at July 14, 2017 06:44 PM (ANIFC)

98 If I got this right, DACA is illegal but Trump didn't want to look heartless. So a bunch of states are suing, which will force his hand.

"Hey, I didn't want to, but the courts forced me."
===

As long as the deportation wheels keep turning between injunctions, it's all good.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at July 14, 2017 06:45 PM (xmlAN)

99 The lower court is making an interpretation of a SCOTUS ruling that the Supreme Court didn't bother to make.

Hold that the lower court cannot amend a superior court's decision, and say that you will follow the decision as written. By their own interpretation, of course, and if SCOTUS wants to clarify it, they can do so in October.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 14, 2017 06:46 PM (oVJmc)

100 >>>Butt stuff.

Or gorillas.

Or gorilla butt stuff.

Just the punchline: "now he measures it first"

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 14, 2017 06:46 PM (ElnX1)

101 I did call this as well as soon as the last Supreme Being Court 'settled 'this.

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2017 06:46 PM (9g/6M)

102 First, the man with the melon switches on the vacuum cleaner ...

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 14, 2017 06:46 PM (LTHVh)

103 On the plus side, this has to harden his resolve to appoint conservative judges.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at July 14, 2017 06:46 PM (LWu6U)

104 Should never have made their shitty little island a state.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (xmlAN)

It's true. They've resented the annexation to this day. Of course if we didn't the Japanese or Germans would have, and history would have taken a much different course.
Posted by: josephistan

We can always cut them loose and look for another state.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2017 06:46 PM (YxyYj)

105 Shame on me for failing to keep up with this ....

Judicial Coup Status:

[X] Intact
[ ] Reversed

And this applied to, and after, the SCOTUS action as well.

The law is clear. No individuals could possibly have standing to stop or change a law that is constitutionally valid - and there is no constitutional challenge to the delegation of authority by Congress to the executive on this, which was explicit and comprehensive.

Even the MA district judge droned on too long to basically say "president is acting within the law, case dismissed". That is the only defensible statement of any court on this matter.

This is the essence of lawlessness. It exceeds even the brazen usurpation of the treaty power in Bush v. Hamdan.

The judiciary has (lawlessly, disastrously) exercised legislative and even constitutional convention powers, for years. It is now moving on to the next logical step. No sign of anyone in a position to make a difference is even interested in this. And almost all judicial types are blind to it all, and cannot think beyond brain-dead mechanics and process. Constitution is dead, and nobody cares or understands.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2017 06:47 PM (QDnY+)

106 We should create a new circuit court comprising only of Hawaii and appoint the animatronic birds from the Enchanted Tiki Room to serve thereon...

Posted by: The Tiki Hat at July 14, 2017 06:47 PM (vBeA5)

107 Should never have made their shitty little island a state.

I've read the welfare state in Hawaii is so generous, you have to make $60K/year just to match what the welfare kings/queens get for nothing.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 14, 2017 06:47 PM (jhqr1)

108 Texas Will Soon Let You Openly Carry a Sword (and Many Other Weapons)

http://time.com/4857911/texas-sword-knives-law/

Funneh quote:

"People could already carry knives with blades under the 5.5-inch limit, but they generally could not purchase or carry longer weapons. Now they will be able to take many more weapons with them when they run errands, for example, or when acting out their favorite scenes from Game of Thrones in the local park."

Posted by: SMFH at July 14, 2017 06:48 PM (s5Kql)

109 "84 /can we arrange for ALL immigration to be routed through Hawaii?

Posted by: shibumi at July 14, 2017 06:28 PM (aT+Bx)

Make Hawaii a holding center for Muslim immigrants while they're being investigated. And take your time on the latter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (SRKgf) "

O my goodness gracious YES.
THIS !

Good and hard.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 14, 2017 06:48 PM (Mcvvl)

110 The problem with Hawaii is that the Choom boys can't handle their own shit.

Put the bong down.

Posted by: Fritz at July 14, 2017 06:48 PM (eLttb)

111 We need to strip Hawaii of Statehood. Place them on probation as a territory or a generation.

Enough of this shit.

Posted by: Drone Strike Hawaii, Now! at July 14, 2017 06:48 PM (8ceaY)

112 And this applied to, and after, the SCOTUS action as well.

The law is clear. No individuals could possibly have standing to stop or change a law that is constitutionally valid - and there is no constitutional challenge to the delegation of authority by Congress to the executive on this, which was explicit and comprehensive.

Even the MA district judge droned on too long to basically say "president is acting within the law, case dismissed". That is the only defensible statement of any court on this matter.

This is the essence of lawlessness. It exceeds even the brazen usurpation of the treaty power in Bush v. Hamdan.

How many divisions does this judge command?
Let him enforce it.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2017 06:49 PM (YxyYj)

113 I do not think this ruling is a blow to the President's agenda or reputation. It is a blow to the reputation and the legitimacy of the Federal Court System.

The Administration should immediately appeal this ruling. Depending on whether they want to humiliate the 9th Circus too, or just stomp this asshole, they should demand an emergency stay at either the 9th, or SCOTUS.

Posted by: rd at July 14, 2017 06:49 PM (4dz1m)

114 We should create a new circuit court comprising only of Hawaii and appoint the animatronic birds from the Enchanted Tiki Room to serve thereon...
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We have more characater and standards than those idiot justices, and even if we just uttered radom statements, we'd still do better than the Democratic Party.

/we expect to paid in animatronic bird seed.

Posted by: animatronic birds at July 14, 2017 06:50 PM (aT+Bx)

115 109 "84 /can we arrange for ALL immigration to be routed through Hawaii?

Posted by: shibumi at July 14, 2017 06:28 PM (aT+Bx)

Make Hawaii a holding center for Muslim immigrants while they're being investigated. And take your time on the latter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (SRKgf) "

O my goodness gracious YES.
THIS !

Good and hard.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 14, 2017 06:48 PM (Mcvvl)

Do they still have leper islands there?

Posted by: josephistan at July 14, 2017 06:50 PM (ANIFC)

116 115. They will.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 14, 2017 06:51 PM (TwwWO)

117 No josephistan, they do not.

Posted by: SMFH at July 14, 2017 06:51 PM (s5Kql)

118 And almost all judicial types are blind to it all, and cannot think beyond brain-dead mechanics and process. Constitution is dead, and nobody cares or understands.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2017 06:47 PM (QDnY+)

Administrative Courts by 2020.

This is an actual plan BTW.

Posted by: Drone Strike Hawaii, Now! at July 14, 2017 06:51 PM (8ceaY)

119 If you read the recent decision by the 9th Circuit, they wrote out a road map for this exact kind of reasoning. They were begging him to refile, on these lines, with a big wink-wink-nudge-nudge we guarantee you our support.

So yeah, I've been expecting this all along. The 3 conservative on the SCOTUS predicted this, too.

I've read that the Solicitor is going to bypass the 9th Circuit and appeal directly to the SCOTUS. Thing is, the Supremes are scheduled to hear the full case in October, and there's no guarantee they'll bother getting around to this appeal before then.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2017 06:51 PM (OmOvC)

120 Nood

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2017 06:52 PM (YxyYj)

121 Make Hawaii a holding center for Muslim immigrants while they're being investigated. And take your time on the latter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (SRKgf) "

O my goodness gracious YES.
THIS !

Good and hard.
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Yes. And make sure the "holding center" is near this judges home. You know, we must be hospitalable, so let's put them up in a nice upper class liberal area.

It's the blue collar "I'm going to hit you so hard that your great great great grandmother is going to get a black eye" philosophy.

Posted by: shibumi at July 14, 2017 06:52 PM (aT+Bx)

122 "People could already carry knives with blades under
the 5.5-inch limit, but they generally could not purchase or carry
longer weapons. Now they will be able to take many more weapons with
them when they run errands, for example, or when acting out their
favorite scenes from Game of Thrones in the local park."

Posted by: SMFH at July 14, 2017 06:48 PM (s5Kql)

I have a coworker who was bragging that now she can carry her broadsword in public. The work BFF and I just looked at her like she was crazy. Of course, I think she probably is...this is the same woman that can take three hours to tell a story that has no point.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 14, 2017 06:52 PM (/o9Qk)

123 I've read that the Solicitor is going to bypass the 9th Circuit and appeal directly to the SCOTUS. Thing is, the Supremes are scheduled to hear the full case in October, and there's no guarantee they'll bother getting around to this appeal before then.

Then ignore it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 14, 2017 06:52 PM (oVJmc)

124 Do they still have leper islands there?
Posted by: josephistan at July 14, 2017 06:50 PM (ANIFC)

Used to be a leper colony on Molokai. I think there still is.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 14, 2017 06:53 PM (SRKgf)

125 I've read that the Solicitor is going to bypass the
9th Circuit and appeal directly to the SCOTUS. Thing is, the Supremes
are scheduled to hear the full case in October, and there's no guarantee
they'll bother getting around to this appeal before then.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2017 06:51 PM (OmOvC)

Aren't they on vacation?

Posted by: Tami at July 14, 2017 06:53 PM (Enq6K)

126 This was always going to be the end result when the SCOTUS carved out the exception.

THE LEFT NEVER STOPS!

Posted by: Kreplach at July 14, 2017 06:56 PM (9A6UB)

127 "People could already carry knives with blades under
the 5.5-inch limit, but they generally could not purchase or carry longer weapons.

And we could ALWAYS buy them. Just not carry them.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2017 06:56 PM (YxyYj)

128 "And almost all judicial types are blind to it all, and cannot think
beyond brain-dead mechanics and process. Constitution is dead, and
nobody cares or understands."

Actually they're not blind to it, and they understand completely what they're doing. A large number of District Courts, the 9th Circuit, and the DC Circuit are now fully operational and empowered arms of the Left Wing of the Democrat Party, and their purpose is now SOLELY to see that party gain and hold power, at all costs.

The situation is much worse than you thought. When you hear talk that a coup is being attempted, that is an accurate description.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2017 06:56 PM (OmOvC)

129 Posted by: Gorilla Pundit at July 14, 2017 06:41 PM (7ciu+)
_____

* gets in Ace's time machine, hits forward button *

* looks around Supreme Court chambers *

* gets back in Ace's time machine, pleasantly surprised, hits present button *

Congratulations, Justice Gorilla Pundit!

Posted by: Furious George at July 14, 2017 06:59 PM (j+dfT)

130 104 Should never have made their shitty little island a state.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at July 14, 2017 06:42 PM (xmlAN)

It's true. They've resented the annexation to this day. Of course if we didn't the Japanese or Germans would have, and history would have taken a much different course.
Posted by: josephistan

We can always cut them loose and look for another state.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2017 06:46 PM (YxyYj)

We could swap 'em out for Puerto Rico. Hell, the 'Ricans already get US citizenship.

It's not nearly as nice a place as Hawaii, though.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 14, 2017 06:59 PM (Xuv2G)

131 I have a coworker who was bragging that now she can carry her broadsword in public. The work BFF and I just looked at her like she was crazy. Of course, I think she probably is...this is the same woman that can take three hours to tell a story that has no point.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 14, 2017 06:52 PM (/o9Qk)

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This is when you institute a Bring Your Sword to Work Day.

See how fast she tells a story then.

Posted by: SMFH at July 14, 2017 07:00 PM (s5Kql)

132 osted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2017 06:56 PM (OmOvC)

So what do the people who voted for him and support Trump do the stop the coup?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2017 07:03 PM (iVOAv)

133 Because Nanny Pelosi is talking impeachment now-or just talking about it louder.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2017 07:05 PM (iVOAv)

134 Yeah, but she still thinks Bush is president.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 14, 2017 07:06 PM (Xuv2G)

135 Yes, she has here moments where's she out of it but she still commands a lot of respect from her Democrat colleagues.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2017 07:08 PM (iVOAv)

136 like I always say, when judges like this jump into nat sec orders that counteract the president based on bias and bad law reads...it's...

treason1!@#$12$1

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at July 14, 2017 07:08 PM (AU4SY)

137 Some D brought up impeachment charges yesterday or day before I think.

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2017 07:09 PM (9g/6M)

138 This is when you institute a Bring Your Sword to Work Day.

See how fast she tells a story then.

Posted by: SMFH at July 14, 2017 07:00 PM (s5Kql)

Oh, I LIKE the way you think.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 14, 2017 07:12 PM (/o9Qk)

139 "So what do the people who voted for him and support Trump do the stop the coup?"

For now, understand what a long game this is. Understand that Trump's first 2 years is all going to be spent just fighting lawsuits and judges and getting people appointed, and not much more is going to happen than that. The rot is too deep, the deep state is too entrenched, and the current Congress isn't capable of it. We need another big election in 2018 to knock some more of the current inhabitants out and put a scare into the rest of them. (We also need to replace Kennedy, which now won't happen til next year, probably.)

This is the Battle of the Bulge, and we're under siege. It's going to take everything we got just to hang on til hopefully, some relief can come in 2018.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2017 07:15 PM (OmOvC)

140 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 14, 2017 07:15 PM (OmOvC)

Thanks. I think you're correct.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2017 07:20 PM (iVOAv)

141 Time to Vince Foster this idiot.

Posted by: PaddyO' at July 14, 2017 07:22 PM (Bbw58)

142 Why do so many liberals complain about Trump? He isn't running the country....the freakin' courts are!!!! How is this even remotely legal????

Posted by: wayne at July 14, 2017 07:23 PM (+JFwL)

143 No appeal, disobedience. Ignore the judge.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at July 14, 2017 07:26 PM (xiOrX)

144 Hate to say it, but it's time to simply ignore these ridiculous judges.

Posted by: forest at July 14, 2017 10:11 PM (4ExtI)

145 The conservative SCOTUS judges warned that their close relationship test would just mean the case would come right back to SCOTUS.

Posted by: hoodaticus at July 14, 2017 11:32 PM (vitRc)

146 ǝʌᴉssǝɹƃoɹd

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2017 11:45 AM (OdK9v)

147 Impeach.

Posted by: Arnold Williams at July 15, 2017 10:46 PM (fd7Qr)

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