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Trump Tweets Out Support for Charlie Gard;
Media Refuses to Mention
If we can help little #CharlieGard, as per our friends in the U.K. and the Pope, we would be delighted to do so.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 3, 2017
When Trump tweets, media is all over...oh... pic.twitter.com/5Hs6qqUoRc
— Stephen Miller (@redsteeze) July 3, 2017
“He prays for them, wishing that their desire to accompany and care for their own child to the end will be respected.”Ed Morrissey notes that the word Crux (the magazine that was quoted from) translated as "care for" is better translated as "treat," as in "medically treat:"
Veteran Vatican reporter Francis X. Rocca translates it into a more explicit reference to “treat” the baby from the official Italian-language statement..
Italian text of pope's statement in support of Charlie Gard's parents and their "desire to accompany and treat their baby till the end" pic.twitter.com/fEjXOqs14E
— Francis X. Rocca (@FrancisXRocca) July 2, 2017
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 04:23 PM (Ot7+c)
Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 04:23 PM (Ot7+c)
Posted by: josephistan at July 03, 2017 04:24 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Kreplach at July 03, 2017 04:24 PM (9A6UB)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 03, 2017 04:25 PM (u82oZ)
The press was running impeachment scenarios on Trump before he even took office. He has every right to treat them as his enemy. THEY endangered
democracy when they abandoned their responsibilities to play palace
guardians for 8years. It's a little late to blame Trump for it now.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 03, 2017 04:25 PM (toi7g)
Posted by: Shannon Twat Watts at July 03, 2017 04:26 PM (phoPy)
Posted by: MAC SOG at July 03, 2017 04:26 PM (QPdNE)
Posted by: Onree Offputtin at July 03, 2017 04:26 PM (m9X4Y)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Kreplach at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (9A6UB)
Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (Ot7+c)
Yeah, right. He's just the least understood pope in history.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (39g3+)
Because caring about the family of a suffering child is weird somehow.
"Inserting" oneself into St. Trayvon's demise or the Gentle Giant of Ferguson was a-okay, though.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (mpXpK)
Now THERE is a book Dan Brown should write. Because something ain't right there.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (39g3+)
He's just a soul who's intentions are good.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (IZPn8)
Posted by: Mega at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (rv0Fo)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (toi7g)
Posted by: 80's music fan at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (HCnEB)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (6Ll1u)
Seems someone here linked that story earlier.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (PY9jH)
I bet Planned Parenthood sent out notice to all of their MSM friends to leave this story alone. It is inconvenient for socialized medicine as well as a baby's right to life. Two "third rails" in one!!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2017 04:30 PM (NOIQH)
He's just a soul who's intentions are good.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM
I didn't understand that.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2017 04:30 PM (p+Wdc)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at July 03, 2017 04:31 PM (H5rtT)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:31 PM (QQ+il)
They mixed politics and medicine, and it has blown up in their faces. The only solution to problems like this is humility and the separation of politics and medicine. They failed on both counts.
Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:31 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 04:31 PM (hi5+T)
Posted by: josephistan at July 03, 2017 04:31 PM (ANIFC)
Mika's bloody face looked incurable too but look how it healed. Little #CharlieGard deserves the same chance. #BloodyMika&PsychoJoe
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 03, 2017 04:32 PM (Mouru)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ABc6sVFx_M
Posted by: goozer at July 03, 2017 04:32 PM (bOuUd)
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 04:32 PM (hi5+T)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:32 PM (QQ+il)
Sometimes progressives in the blind servitude to their authoritarian nature get ahead of themselves miscalculating when their moral depravity will be sheepishly accepted by the common folk. Francis backed off this time. He'll make sure to test this again in the future when an appropriate situation presents itself.
Posted by: DaveD at July 03, 2017 04:32 PM (P5fqQ)
Actually, someone on CNN described Trump as "inserting" himself into the Charlie Gard case.
"Bring back our girls*!"
*Not that there was anything wrong with that cause, just that Obama and Michelle were happy to jump on that bandwagon as a vehicle to push a girls education narrative (not the pesky muslims kidnap Christian schoolgirls angle).
Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2017 04:32 PM (NOIQH)
We should fly doctors to the UK and treat the kid at a medical facility
on a joint Airbase. Yes, that would royally piss off our allies, but I
DARE them to try and punish the United States for medically treating a
child (with the parents explicit permission, no less), no matter how
much it "embarrassed" them.
Posted by: Rusty Nail
Really? Who pays?
Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:33 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 04:33 PM (Ot7+c)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2017 04:30 PM
"Get off my lawn" in 4, 3, 2, ...
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 03, 2017 04:33 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (6Ll1u)
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Hawaiian judge blocks effort in 3... 2...
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 04:34 PM (hi5+T)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:34 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 04:34 PM (Ot7+c)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (IZPn8)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (IZPn
Your Mother cares about your intentions. God may well care about your intentions.
The rest of the universe only sees the consequences of your actions.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (wB8Tg)
parents that they couldn't bring him to the States, when someone else
was paying.
Because state-controlled healthcare is about state CONTROL over your health.
Not just about deciding who get state paid care, it's about getting to decide who lives or dies. If something is not covered, it's not allowed even if the patient wants to pay for it.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (soOgU)
She'd be staring down a group of bobbies, "So, then are you going to arrest me?"
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (Sgood)
From what I understand, the parents are willing (and able) to foot a sizable bill.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (toi7g)
Posted by: dantesed at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (88xKn)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (FQKBL)
There's something really sick about the way a lot of people (not only in Europe, though they seem to be really concentrated there) seem to have raised euthanasia up as some amazingly wonderful thing. It doesn't strike them how ridiculous a phrase like "dying with dignity" sounds. If I'm dead, I'm unlikely to care how dignified my exit was.
Posted by: TheLowerDepths at July 03, 2017 04:36 PM (PMt8D)
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 04:36 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at July 03, 2017 04:36 PM (Jj+59)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 04:36 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 04:37 PM (hi5+T)
We do, as always.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (IZPn
Wrong. The parents raised the money for the treatment.
Posted by: TheLowerDepths at July 03, 2017 04:37 PM (PMt8D)
Posted by: Kebas at July 03, 2017 04:37 PM (kwsnd)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: dantesed at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (88xKn)
..and as a Catholic I am LMAO.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'Official Amy Winehouse addict' at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (31vnC)
Really? Who pays?
The parents have a couple of million pounds Sterling.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
As long as American tax dollars aren't involved in any way, but I don't see how that's possible if they're using American facilities.
Besides, if the Brits were willing to tell a family that they couldn't take the child to the States, it's unlikely that they'll let American doctors do the procedure there. It is a JOINT Air Base we're talking about, not sovereign territory like an Embassy.
Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (toi7g)
Way simpler and cheaper to just fly them to the US.
The parents can pay for the treatment, I wouldn't object to a few plane tickets from the US govt.
I wouldn't even object to a US helicopter flying them straight from the hospital to the airport. It'd be expensive, but good training (urban landing and traffic), and great publicity.
The US hospital would be a better place to treat, anyway, and they've already made contacts and are better prepared for it. It's not a boo-boo, it's a severe genetic disorder.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (wB8Tg)
But doing stuff like saying "we'll allow you more time with your child" that's just ... wrong on every level.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 04:36 PM (zZWkn)
Good. That's a various positive approach and you can also ask Pope (Saint) John Paul II to intercede for him
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (soOgU)
They are happy to use immigrant babies to score points. How dare Trump take interest in a white, British baby?!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2017 04:39 PM (NOIQH)
I imagine the incremental cost would be trivial.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:39 PM (QQ+il)
parents that they couldn't bring him to the States, when someone else
was paying.
Because state-controlled healthcare is about state CONTROL over your health.
Not just about deciding who get state paid care, it's about getting to decide who lives or dies. If something is not covered, it's not allowed even if the patient wants to pay for it.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (NOIQH)
It's amazing to me that Sarah Palin (who can be ridiculous, in all fairness) was lambasted endlessly over describing socialized medicine as leading to death panels, and no one has pointed out that instances like this prove that she was totally correct.
Posted by: TheLowerDepths at July 03, 2017 04:39 PM (PMt8D)
Wrong. The parents raised the money for the treatment.
Posted by: TheLowerDepths at July 03, 2017 04:37 PM (PMt8D)
I believe like 1.5 Mil on a GoFund.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'Official Amy Winehouse addict' at July 03, 2017 04:39 PM (31vnC)
Posted by: dantesed at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (88xKn)
Will do!
Posted by: Cardinal LL Cool J at July 03, 2017 04:40 PM (B11vO)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 03, 2017 04:40 PM (89T5c)
Go for it, Donald.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (QQ+il)
Nah, I know a Brit helo guy who'd take care of that. Compassionate sort, has kids of his own. And the Queen has a pretty good in with him.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (H5rtT)
Way simpler and cheaper to just fly them to the US.
The parents can pay for the treatment, I wouldn't object to a few plane tickets from the US govt.
I could be wrong about this, but it was my understanding that the Brit NHS forbade them from taking him to the States. I don't know how seriously that would be enforced. It would be worse than Elian Gonzalez.
Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (hi5+T)
"Mary said knock you out!"
-L.L. Cool Benedict
Frankly, Benedict was terrifying looking but seemed like a much better man than this new dude.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (39g3+)
Yeah, I was wondering how the Left and the MSM (but I repeat myself) would demonize Trump for trying to save a sick baby. That's it. White privilege.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (Mouru)
Recall that when Trump first signed the travel ban EO, NY Gov. Cuomo
used an Iranian baby girl who was coming to the US for a heart surgery
to score points against cruel, heartless Trump.
They are happy to use immigrant babies to score points. How dare Trump take interest in a white, British baby?!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2017 04:39 PM (NOIQH)
That makes Cuomo a liar because the travel ban did not apply to those situations.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 03, 2017 04:42 PM (mpXpK)
Pretty seriously. They won't let the parents take the boy home to die, lest they flee.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:42 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Kebas at July 03, 2017 04:42 PM (kwsnd)
Posted by: TheLowerDepths at July 03, 2017 04:36 PM (PMt8D)
To Hell with quetly and cheaply slipping away, if the afterlife wants me they can fucking come and get me, and they had better pack a lunch.
Came for me twice in the last eight years and I'M STILL HERE BITCHES!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2017 04:42 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (0mRoj)
I don't know how seriously that would be enforced.
Pretty seriously. They won't let the parents take the boy home to die, lest they flee.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
So they're not going to let the parents take him to a US military hospital, whether in the UK or the US. The cost is moot.
Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 03, 2017 04:44 PM (89T5c)
But the US healthcare ranks way down when compared to other Western
countries. Why would anyone want to come here for treatment? /s
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (IDPbH)
that is because the rating system is rigged by liberal assholes who can not admit the US does anything good.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 03, 2017 04:44 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: John Marston at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (phoPy)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (6Ll1u)
Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (LAe3v)
The baby's on lockdown at the hospital. They won't even let his parents move him to hospice. They are just that totalitarian.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (0mRoj)
That's the horror of the story. People, even children sadly, die everyday. This is a child being put down like an animal, for political reasons.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (Sgood)
It is a beautiful image; make it so queen Lizzy!
Such a tragic story, I hope the NHS gets a cluebat to the head before it's too late.
Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 04:46 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:46 PM (IDPbH)
Dear God, if it is your will to take Charlie, please reunite them someday in Heaven where they may live eternally without pain or mortal imperfections, in the light of your perfect love.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 03, 2017 04:46 PM (4AVeu)
My heart is broken for Charlie Gard and his parents.
Dear God, if it is your will to take Charlie, please reunite them
someday in Heaven where they may live eternally without pain or mortal
imperfections, in the light of your perfect love.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 03, 2017 04:46 PM (4AVeu)
Amen. My heart is breaking too...been saying a lot of rosary prayers for this little guy.
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 04:47 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 03, 2017 04:44 PM (mpXpK)
Infant mortality is one of the most glaring examples. Our statistics include all babies. Everyone else jukes their stats by not counting babies below a certain birthweight, or sometimes IIRC those that die within a short time from birth.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:47 PM (0mRoj)
Because caring about the family of a suffering child is weird somehow.
"Inserting" oneself into St. Trayvon's demise or the Gentle Giant of Ferguson was a-okay, though.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (PY9jH)
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THE LEFT inserted themselves into Everyones health care , babies , mens and womens vaginas,.. Obama is right now inserting himself in s korea on his own.
The Left have inserted themselves into our homes, if we're allowed to smoke, or even Think by ourselves.
The Left has inserted themselves into our childrens sexuality.
but Trump What!?
oh yeah inserted himself into the lefts idea that a baby has a Right To Life!
Posted by: willow at July 03, 2017 04:47 PM (v12G8)
i doubt The Queen would insinuate herself into this and make her government look bad....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:48 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:48 PM (Rsi2C)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 03, 2017 04:48 PM (FQKBL)
I don't think they count those that die within 48 hours or 72 hours. I forget which.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: Mega at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (rv0Fo)
That's wonderful of both you and Adirondack Patriot! :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (soOgU)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (0mRoj)
Yes.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (XNL5i)
how about locking mommy and daddy iout of the room while baby dies by Their standsards of care?
Posted by: willow at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (v12G8)
Even though I know the health care I'd get there sucks, I have 20x the family and 20x the safety net.
Counting my blessings, at least it's too small of a country to ever institute single payer. 4 million people isn't enough of a risk pool.
Posted by: Oschisms at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (70QTT)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (H5rtT)
That would work too, if the Royals would stand up to the bureaucracy.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2017 04:50 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:31 PM (QQ+il)
There is still a C of E?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 03, 2017 04:50 PM (auHtY)
Nail. Head. Assembly complete.
Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (LAe3v)
Leftists can't have a potential Alpha male live.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (LnIG2)
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 04:47 PM (a0IVu)
That's wonderful of both you and Adirondack Patriot! :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (soOgU)
I try to write down prayer intentions every morning and dedicate to those more deserving than me, Fen. I don't succeed all the time but I give it my best shot.
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:48 PM (Rsi2C)
I liked Benedict too. I liked that he was an intellectual and yet, very conservative. But the reality is he's a very frail old man and it's *possible* he's not even aware of what's going on in his Church--or what's going on, period.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (soOgU)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (FQKBL)
This is the other point that never got put forth adequately in my opinion. Even if the child is 99.9% terminal, the treatment might work and the NHS doesn't have to pay out one single taxpayer pence for the travel or treatment. Furthermore, even if the treatment doesn't work, the information about learned about the treatment might save many other lives in the future, and rather than the child "dying passively with dignity", the child might die actively fighting to pull through from an experimental cure.
BUT Do Not Challenge the Authority of the State in Life And Death Matters!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (Rsi2C)
Red Frankie must have been made to realize that the Church's position made them look like the biggest hypocrites on earth.
Last Sunday my son refused to go to mass, and said if letting Charlie Gard die against his parents' wishes was supported by official church position he didn't want to be a Catholic anymore. I felt the same way.
Posted by: Gem at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (uaHyk)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (soOgU)
Sorry Fen, you are NOT a "True Democrat!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:48 PM (7uYFy)
If the government doesn't already look bad, via the NHS torpedoing themselves with the bad press of "allowing" a parent time with their dying child, I can't imagine what looking bad would ACTUALLY look like.
Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (hvf9s)
I'm reserving judgment on his application. I still don't believe he left under his own free will. I think he was forced out under the threat of death.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (0R8lo)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2017 04:30 PM
"Get off my lawn" in 4, 3, 2, ...
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 03, 2017 04:33 PM
Did I really need the sarc tag on that?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (p+Wdc)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 03, 2017 04:50 PM (auHtY)
There is Church. And there is an England. So, yeah.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (7uYFy)
I'm sure you do. It is hard to keep up with everything that happens here (I find it so) but I believe in prayer and am always glad to hear when people are doing that!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:53 PM (soOgU)
Ireland is beautiful and they tried the free market / low tax thing that revamped their economy but started reverting back just a bit. People just don't learn.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:53 PM (IDPbH)
Why, it's almost as if the media are obsessed, spoiled brats.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 04:53 PM (kusha)
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We will discuss:
1. Abortion all the time, for everyone
2. Government funded tranny surgeries
3. Euthanasia
4. Government funded birth control
5. Government funded medical care of illegals and criminals
6. The Glorious Medical Care available in Cuba
Any other topic is off limits
Posted by: The Left at July 03, 2017 04:54 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (hvf9s)
Oh I agree with you. My point is--when has the Queen EVER "stepped up" and insinuated herself into either English politics--or Anglican matters?
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:54 PM (7uYFy)
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Stay away from the salmon mousse!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 04:54 PM (kTF2Z)
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We will discuss:
1. Abortion all the time, for everyone
2. Government funded tranny surgeries
3. Euthanasia
4. Government funded birth control
5. Government funded medical care of illegals and criminals
6. The Glorious Medical Care available in Cuba
Any other topic is off limits
Posted by: The Left at July 03, 2017 04:54 PM (aT+Bx)
Next on the list: intrauterine prenatal gender reassignment surgery.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:55 PM (0mRoj)
They persist in seeing themselves as heroic while contempt for them grows.
Posted by: Northernlurker at July 03, 2017 04:56 PM (TisfY)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:56 PM (soOgU)
--
Yesterday, it was reported that the NHS wants to public to pay for woman transplants for trannies, and that they consider this a top priority (over cancer) since it involves "equality."
Infertile women were not asked their opinions.
Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 04:56 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (0mRoj)
NHS: We know what it means to "die with dignity" and we'll show you how it's done!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 04:56 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 04:57 PM (/tuJf)
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Things like that happen when you're mentally ill.
Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 04:57 PM (aT+Bx)
I get tired of their political bull-s .... and wonder, more than a little, at how they manage to juggle the temporal and spiritual.
Posted by: 13times at July 03, 2017 04:57 PM (WHVu+)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (0mRoj)
NHS: We know what it means to "die with dignity" and we'll show you how it's done!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 04:56 PM (gwPgz)
Pretty much. "With dignity" means "when we tell you, where we tell you and how we tell you."
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:54 PM (7uYFy)
Ah, gotcha. True, I can't think of any cases of stepping up, other than during WW2 which was ages ago. But she's a grandma, would she passively let NHS do this if baby George, heir to the throne, was dying of a fatal disease? Methinks not.
Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (hvf9s)
pile drive her into the mat. She offers nothing but tits on a stick and
smart glasses.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 04:57 PM (/tuJf)
I cannot watch her. Gutfeld is dead to me when she is on. Same with The Specialists. I have no idea what she's supposed to offer.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM
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Yes, that is the argument that many of his supporters use so as not to condemn a truly great man. As a Catholic, I believe that God protects the Church despite the humanity, frailty, and mental capacity of the occupant that holds the office. The gates of hell will not prevail against, Christ promised and assured us. We survived the Borgias. We will survive this horrible Vicar.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (Rsi2C)
And maybe that's the case of some of Britian's problems. It's time - and past time - for the Crown to assert itself.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 03, 2017 04:59 PM (LnIG2)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 04:57 PM (/tuJf)
Tits?
(looks at Kat Timpf)
There's no tits there....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:59 PM (7uYFy)
The Royal family has a private doctor because of course they do. Elites always exempt themselves from the policies they force on us little people.
Yet another reason we got Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 05:00 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (6Ll1u)
Fly the whole family out of England on U.S. diplomatic passports. Then announce that due to taking on three Britons, 60 fewer muslims will be permitted entry.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 03, 2017 05:00 PM (XUcIQ)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at July 03, 2017 05:00 PM (hKi6n)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:00 PM (IDPbH)
FIFY
Posted by: Mega at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (rv0Fo)
Posted by: Fox2! at July 03, 2017 05:00 PM (brIR5)
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 05:00 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: John Marston at July 03, 2017 05:01 PM (phoPy)
OVER cancer?? To quote a Brit: "O, that way madness lies."
Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 05:01 PM (hvf9s)
25 Yeah, right. He's just the least understood pope in history.
He's just a soul whose intentions are good.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM
Turnin' his life around. Gentle moral giant. C'mon, MSM, you know you have those phrases already loaded up and "hot keyed".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 03, 2017 05:01 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (PY9jH)
She's always trying to argue with Bolling. I think there's a weird father/daughter dynamic there, like she wants to prove to him how smart she is...
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Darth Randall at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (6n332)
Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 04:56 PM (aT+Bx)
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Newsflash to the NHS. That scene from Lif of Brian was a PARODY.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (emO+i)
I know what pile driver means in this context, but there is a place near me that sells something called a pile driverr-a breakfast sandwich on an English muffin with thick bacon, eggs, garlic butter and cheddar cheese so All I can think of is you covering her completely with Pile drivers, which is actually funnier image than the one you have in mind. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 05:03 PM (soOgU)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (0mRoj)
At least North Korea lets the kids starve to death at home with their parents.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 03, 2017 05:03 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:03 PM (IDPbH)
No palomino here. The woman is a complete airhead and is a horrible ambassador for the right.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 05:04 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 03, 2017 05:04 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (emO+i)
She's annoying as hell. I hope FOX doesn't think they are pulling in young, hip viewers with her schtick...
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:04 PM (7uYFy)
Catholicy is a job requirement when you're applying for pope, or at least it used to be.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (0R8lo)
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I can respect that viewpoint. I'll offer another one: If he was forced out under the threat of death, he had the choice to accept martyrdom like our first pope, Peter, did and many of the early ones did. Thankfully, I won't get to be the ultimate judge of his decision bc I'm not sure that I would have accepted the alternative I just suggested. But it's what Chrust asks of us all. Of course, we were created with the gift of free will so our final fate will be determined by how we exercised our free will and what choices we made.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (Rsi2C)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (39g3+)
The practical side of me gets that there's no chance. But the parent side gets that if there's a 0.00000000001% chance for your baby, you fucking take it because that is your baby.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (JPRju)
Ireland is beautiful and they tried the free market / low tax thing that revamped their economy but started reverting back just a bit. People just don't learn.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:53 PM (IDPbH)
And the EU has the sass :cry over the tax deal they did with Apple to induce them to move to Ireland.
Posted by: Fox2! at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (brIR5)
Well said. Would we all have the courage of the first Pope.
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (a0IVu)
He claims they call him the Space Cowboy, but the rest of the band says nobody does.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: josephistan at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (ANIFC)
the mat. She offers nothing but tits on a stick and smart glasses.
Posted by: JackStraw
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A Nancy Pelosi mask is but one way to prevent premature ejaculation.
There are other, less nauseating, ways I hear...
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Fox2! at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (brIR5)
Catholicy is a job requirement when you're applying for pope, or at least it used to be.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (Mouru)
Yes and that's what Catholics like Pelosi didn't like.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (IDPbH)
Slippery slope, anyone?
http://moonbattery.com/?p=85766
Posted by: RKae at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (gQyp8)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (Rsi2C)
I have a feeling Benedict was facing the Vatican version of "The Resistance" from the day he became Pope. He probably was made to understand that nothing he wanted to do would get done....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:08 PM (7uYFy)
He'll always be Maurice to me.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:08 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (39g3+)
The monarchy is still a big tourist draw. QEII almost makes up for the lack of a Disney theme park in Britain.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 03, 2017 05:08 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (Rsi2C)
AND the Medicis, who turned banking, politics and the papacy into a family business. Prayers to the Catholics in the Horde that this too shall pass.
Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 05:09 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Fox2! at July 03, 2017 05:09 PM (brIR5)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (IDPbH)
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Maybe they should take the baby to Cuba which has the best healthcare in the world.
Posted by: Soona at July 03, 2017 05:09 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:10 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 03, 2017 05:10 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (IDPbH)
See? You don't have to be a Catholic to see what's going on. Pelosi--like Biden, assorted Kennedys and others --want to be Catholic to appeal to what's left of the old ward-healer type Democrats. But if forced to choose their "faith" over their political power?
No contest.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:10 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 05:12 PM (6Ll1u)
Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 05:09 PM (hvf9s)
*****
Thank you for the prayers for all us stuck with the Church. I left for 3 yrs and came back this last Easter. I hate being Catholic. Thanks for the mention of the Medicis. I forgot about them. Different kind of badness, but still bad.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:12 PM (Rsi2C)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (Rsi2C)
You're thinking of my nephew. I wasn't so bad.
Posted by: Callixtus III at July 03, 2017 05:12 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (IDPbH)
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Maybe they should take the baby to Cuba which has the best healthcare in the world.
Posted by: Soona at July 03, 2017 05:09 PM (Fmupd)
I love the sarcasm but after putting on my conspiracy hat, I think one of the reasons they don't want him to come to the United States is the possibility , however slight, that we may be successful. That can't be allowed.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:13 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 03, 2017 05:13 PM (JPRju)
I dub thee Sir AssHat.[/]
Posted by: An Observation at July 03, 2017 05:13 PM (+uLgy)
Posted by: William Eaton at July 03, 2017 05:14 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (Rsi2C)
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In a way, Francis is worse. The bad Popes of the late Middle Ages / Renaissance may have been bad people, but they didn't try to rewrite the faith, unlike Francis.
Posted by: josephistan at July 03, 2017 05:14 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:14 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:12 PM (Rsi2C)
No 2,000 earthly institution is going to have entirely clean hands. And don't forget, the papacy was a temporal power with lands and armies and all that entails...
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:14 PM (7uYFy)
Slippery slope, anyone?
http://moonbattery.com/?p=85766
Posted by: RKae at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (gQyp
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The Dutch are simply saving their future Muslim masters the trouble.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 03, 2017 05:15 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (JPRju)
Low-risk low-reward is how you survive in a mud hut.
High-risk high-reward is how you reach the stars.
I think someday more Mothers will realize this.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2017 05:15 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 05:12 PM (6Ll1u)
It is trolltastic, yes! He might not have accomplished all the tech things he claims, but I love his chutzpah. Hope he scalps the Lieawatha in votes at the election.
Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 05:16 PM (hvf9s)
Things can change quickly in this world.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 03, 2017 05:14 PM (MuTTO)
*****
Isn't that something? Never thought I'd see the day when could be true.
That's an unfortunate hash unless you are doggie lover.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:16 PM (Rsi2C)
He could be re-elected literally forever, if the did that.
Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2017 05:16 PM (DQ4Fv)
Slippery slope, anyone?
http://moonbattery.com/?p=85766
Posted by: RKae at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (gQyp
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The Dutch are simply saving their future Muslim masters the trouble.
Posted by: William Eaton
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Getting out of the way and leaving the infrastructure intact.
It's the polite thing to do.
Posted by: RKae at July 03, 2017 05:16 PM (gQyp8)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 05:17 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Grump928
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Well now, some may call me, Moe
Some may call me, Joe
Just remember Speedo
He don't never take it slow
Well now, they often call me Speedo
But my real name is Mr. Earl
Posted by: The Cadillacs, irrelavently at July 03, 2017 05:18 PM (OdK9v)
This is true, Nobles and Royals are kind of a history-themed amusement park. Come see our castle! Gaze in wonder at the carefully manicured lawns! View our paintings. Oh God, what have we become...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:18 PM (39g3+)
NBC's Matt Bradley accused Donald Trump Monday of using Charlie Gard's parents' grief in order to further his own political agenda.
Yep. Thoroughly diseased.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2017 05:18 PM (udajc)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:19 PM (39g3+)
Hi Mrs. Peel. Nice to see you again. And a baby? Congratulations!
Unfortunately, I lost the big guy last year but I have a new puppy to drive me crazy.
Don't be a stranger, come back and visit when you can.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 05:19 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:20 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:14 PM
****
Yes, all true. The Church really has evolved just not on the moral teachings that the Godless Left want to see thrown out the window
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:20 PM (Rsi2C)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel
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Ah. There's your mistake. It's our baby.
Posted by: The NHS at July 03, 2017 05:20 PM (OdK9v)
Posted by: ShainS at July 03, 2017 05:21 PM (TDpLU)
Posted by: Javems at July 03, 2017 05:21 PM (yOqwj)
Posted by: Golfman at July 03, 2017 05:22 PM (48QDY)
Can we trade Mika and Joe for little Charlie?
Posted by: ShainS at July 03, 2017 05:21 PM (TDpLU)
I'd throw in some money too.
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:22 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:23 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (Rsi2C)
You're thinking of my nephew. I wasn't so bad.
Posted by: Callixtus III at July 03, 2017 05:12 PM (Mouru)
The Dirty Vicar?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:23 PM (0mRoj)
Twitter reports that the Vatican Children's Hospital will take the baby.
Thank the Lord.
Posted by: Golfman at July 03, 2017 05:22 PM (48QDY)
And? Can they try the experimental treatment there? Or are they just offering hospice care?
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:23 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: The NHS at July 03, 2017 05:20 PM (OdK9v)
The designation "Subjects" sort of captures the whole essence of the NHS!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 05:23 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Golfman at July 03, 2017 05:22 PM (48QDY)
I *wanna* celebrate, but...
If *they* don't immediately let the parents take the kid to the US, Imma lose my shit.
The NHS has already imposed possibly lethal delays.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2017 05:24 PM (wB8Tg)
Yes, all true. The Church really has evolved just not on the moral teachings that the Godless Left want to see thrown out the window
Posted by: L, Elle
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See: The Episcopal Church. Spiritual activism abandoned to social activism. Oddly, it is dying on the vine. The progressives that remain do not care.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:24 PM (kusha)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:25 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:23 PM (a0IVu)
At least a chance for a better fate.
Posted by: Golfman at July 03, 2017 05:25 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM
There [b[are a lot of youngsters running around here these days.
I mean, c'mon, even metal is considered classical by many here. Sorry if that was a Burdon for you.
;-)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 03, 2017 05:25 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Golfman at July 03, 2017 05:22 PM (48QDY)
I google "vatican children's hospital" and the first news stories that pop up are that they are being investigated for putting children at risk while chasing profits. Stories the media conveniently published a few hours ago. I can see how this will be spun...
Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 05:25 PM (hvf9s)
Exhibit A:
https://twitter.com/RobProvince/status/881927882175643649
Oh, and in the original (now hastily deleted) tweet, from Illinois state rep Emanuel Welch, get a load of who it is that's shown shaking hands with a beaming Welch.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 03, 2017 05:25 PM (ujwCG)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:25 PM (IDPbH)
Good.
Posted by: Soona at July 03, 2017 05:26 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:26 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (HBU7W)
Hospice care is preferable to dying with no care. Better care is at least trying for life. Prayers for the little boy and his parents (and other family).
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (zZWkn)
He then went on to say "that's our schtick, the thieving bastard! We're the ones that politically exploit children for our gain!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (HBU7W)
They are of their father, the Devil.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (HBU7W)
Yes both are socialist bordering on communist.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:28 PM (IDPbH)
He then went on to say "that's our schtick, the thieving bastard! We're the ones that politically exploit children for our gain!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (39g3+)
Well, I never!
Posted by: Piers Morgan, lecturing on gun control standing atop a dead child at July 03, 2017 05:28 PM (0mRoj)
the American Indian Elizabeth Warren. He sent her a 23 and Me testing
kit.
Fourth of July parade in the town I was living in 2012 and she's running for Senate so she's in the parade. Bunch of kids start doing the tomahawk chop. Before you know it, hundreds of people are doing the tomahawk chop, sounds and all. She looked like she wanted to kill us all. Funny as hell.
Posted by: tu3031 at July 03, 2017 05:29 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: Rhennigantx at July 03, 2017 05:29 PM (bmkS9)
Posted by: Alexander VI at July 03, 2017 05:29 PM (6FqZa)
the American Indian Elizabeth Warren. He sent her a 23 and Me testing
kit.
Fourth of July parade in the town I was living in 2012 and she's running for Senate so she's in the parade. Bunch of kids start doing the tomahawk chop. Before you know it, hundreds of people are doing the tomahawk chop, sounds and all. She looked like she wanted to kill us all. Funny as hell.
Posted by: tu3031 at July 03, 2017 05:29 PM (qJhUV)
Troll power level: over 9000.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:30 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:30 PM (HBU7W)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (Rsi2C)
Posted by: X-ray at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (br7RH)
I'm sorry about your dog...he was a sweet guy.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (JPRju)
there's a weird father/daughter dynamic there, like she wants to prove
to him how smart she is...
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (7uYFy)
And eventually she'll understand that she needs her own approval, not her father's (or his surrogate's).
I'll never forget the night when my dad and I were drinking scotch and smoking cigarettes on the patio, and he told me that he liked me, as a person.
I always knew he loved me, even if he didn't understand what I was up to (any more than I did). But it meant the world to me that he liked me, too, because I had so much respect for him.
(((Daddy)))
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (Id9+8)
As far as Pope Francis goes, I am not Catholic, rather I am Protestant.
I never comment on Catholicism, in the interests of the Body of Christ.
Posted by: kraken at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (Rsi2C)
Not a Catholic. Lapsed Protestant.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: dantesed at July 03, 2017 05:32 PM (88xKn)
Thank you. He was a gentle soul.
Sounds like life is going great with you. Always nice to "see" you. Come back when you can and class the place up some.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 05:33 PM (/tuJf)
I'll never forget the night when my dad and I were drinking scotch and smoking cigarettes on the patio, and he told me that he liked me, as a person.
I always knew he loved me, even if he didn't understand what I was up to (any more than I did). But it meant the world to me that he liked me, too, because I had so much respect for him.
(((Daddy)))
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (Id9+
Love and approval from your parents are critically important. I had neither growing up and believe me it fucks with you for life.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:33 PM (0mRoj)
Thank you, President Trump.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:34 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: dantesed at July 03, 2017 05:32 PM (88xKn)
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Nonsense. Tits aren't shown anywhere on the internet.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 05:34 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:34 PM (HBU7W)
Well you know, omelettes, eggs. The greater good, and all that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:35 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:35 PM (zZWkn)
The priest was great. The services went well, and familiar to Anglicans. Mainly it's because I felt like a nameless face-in-the-crowd. Some churches are very large, and if you're introverted it is hard to get involved in the community.
And if the pope is a dope, that's an irritant too.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 03, 2017 05:35 PM (6FqZa)
I would bet against that, if only gambling were permitted on the internet.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:35 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: dantesed at July 03, 2017 05:32 PM (88xKn)
I'm holding out for boobies.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:35 PM (0mRoj)
Yep. Trump=jobs. American jobs. For American workers. That alone was enough of a deciding factor for my supporting him.
Posted by: kraken at July 03, 2017 05:36 PM (zSVEm)
mice
Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 05:36 PM (Ot7+c)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:36 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:35 PM (zZWkn)
Of course, despite knowing it would be birds.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:36 PM (0mRoj)
At least, that's what I'm hoping.
Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 05:36 PM (aT+Bx)
there's a weird father/daughter dynamic there, like she wants to prove
to him how smart she is...
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (7uYFy)
All the more reason why you need to love and approve of yourself, Insomniac.
Mom - well, she was another story, And I even got to square things with her, eventually. It was mostly about forgiving her, once I had more insight into how she grew up and the issues she had. I didn't understand any of that until I was over 50.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:37 PM (Id9+8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:37 PM (OdK9v)
Posted by: tu3031 at July 03, 2017 05:29 PM (qJhUV)
Just when I despair over the direction of America and its people, you have to share something like that and give me some hope! Blast you.
Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 05:37 PM (hvf9s)
******
Ha boulder! I so much understand that sentiment. It's so much worse when you try to live your entire adult life as a faithful Catholic. RunningOutOfSteam x1000
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (Rsi2C)
Way to fight for Life, pope, you Shit.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (BDCcu)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Never mind, it's gone now.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (OdK9v)
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:39 PM (Id9+8)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:39 PM (Id9+
I followed, no worries.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:40 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: USNtakim
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Try converting to Judaism.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:40 PM (OdK9v)
Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2017 05:40 PM (gDoff)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:34 PM (HBU7W)
Many people can't actually say the words, Abby. And we need to forgive them that. They show us as they can, and most of the time, they give us what they can - they aren't "holding out" and we need to understand that.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:41 PM (Id9+8)
Posted by: Single Mothers of the USA at July 03, 2017 05:41 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (zZWkn)
Depends. There are usually classes specifically for people interested in becoming members that lay out core doctrines and that sort of thing. Some denominations are more systematic than others.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:42 PM (0mRoj)
*clutches flat stinky pillow*
You'll have to pry it from my cold, dead hands.
;-)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:42 PM (OdK9v)
Posted by: NCKate at July 03, 2017 05:42 PM (dGSft)
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (a0IVu)
I thought HE was the brain surgeon?
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:42 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:42 PM (a0IVu)
Easter Orthodox Church is pretty stringent too. I think it's helps people learn as much about their faith as possible A church that has no requirements to join is not good , IMO
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 05:43 PM (soOgU)
What the hell happened to Benedict?
Posted by: Kreplach at July 03, 2017 04:24 PM (9A6UB)
Benedict was "retired" due to his role in the catholic priest rape coverups. This pope was chosen due to the pressure of not having yet another European pope in an ever growing Hispanic world. The Vatican is a corrupt political machine.
Posted by: bknsty14 at July 03, 2017 05:43 PM (0gAY0)
Posted by: the Borgias at July 03, 2017 05:43 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 05:43 PM (soOgU)
The kids were like a doll or a pet. Something to trot out and hug, but otherwise, in the way. Real moms, good moms... God bless you all. But those women, God help us.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:44 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 05:44 PM (Ot7+c)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (HBU7W)
Grrrrrrr. This way of thinking sets my hair on fire. Lets just call men worthless and encourage more deadbeats. Fathers are critical for healthy children. SPIT SPIT SPIT.
FUCKME!!!!!
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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We have very stringent requirements, I'm pretty sure.
Posted by: Unitarian Unversalist at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (OdK9v)
My brothers and I lived in fear of her manic days. She tried to kill me
twice, but as she grew older she got quieter. The Alzeheimers helped
too.
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (HBU7W)
I remember you telling me about your childhood, Abby. I can even begin to imagine what you went through and God bless you and your brother.
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:46 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Islam at July 03, 2017 05:46 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 05:47 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Unitarian Unversalist at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (OdK9v)
" Wide gate, narrow gate, something something..."
Posted by: kraken at July 03, 2017 05:47 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:47 PM (Id9+8)
https://twitter.com/_GreatWhiteDope/status/881980078057439233
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:47 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:48 PM (Rsi2C)
Posted by: Single Mothers of the USA at July 03, 2017 05:48 PM (2qHjF)
Remember how much they praised their health system at the olympics a few years ago?
Didn't they have nurses dancing around hospital beds or something like that?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 03, 2017 05:48 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (HBU7W)
Damn. I lived in fear of my mother too but I don't think she ever tried to kill me.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:49 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 03, 2017 05:49 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:49 PM (0mRoj)
" Let me tell you about my mother..." and what is a tortoise?
Posted by: kraken at July 03, 2017 05:50 PM (zSVEm)
It was pretty ridiculous, but these days, what does the UK really have to brag about? They used to rule the world. Now they can't even decide whether or not to pull out of the EU, after a huge election demanding it.
Well, we were hasty, perhaps we shouldn't do that now... or maybe we should? What do our betters tell us?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:50 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: USNtakim
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Try converting to Judaism.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:40 PM (OdK9v)
I hear there is a cutoff on conversion.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 03, 2017 05:50 PM (vYdNK)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 03, 2017 05:51 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 03, 2017 05:51 PM (Ri/rl)
The parents have everything lined up here. The baby is being detained by the NHS. He literally would have to be busted out of the hospital at this point. I like the Trump plane thing. Wonder if an SAS unit would get him out of the hospital & then get him to the plane. That would be a nice FU to the NHS from their own peeps.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 03, 2017 05:51 PM (hscyr)
Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (emO+i)
She writes for National Review. Don't they all hate Trump?
Posted by: bknsty14 at July 03, 2017 05:51 PM (0gAY0)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (Rsi2C)
I have a feeling Benedict was facing the Vatican version of "The Resistance" from the day he became Pope. He probably was made to understand that nothing he wanted to do would get done....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:08 PM (7uYFy)
Can't say for sure what went down inside the Vatican with regards to Benedict XVI stepping down , but we DO know that he loathed the queer-ing of the Church, called it outright, " filth," and was defrocking hundreds of pedophile priests. ( you won't find this out on google, have to use bing, seriously, and the numbers vary from 400-800) . Pope Frankie just made it easy for pedophile priests to get away with it.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 03, 2017 05:52 PM (oQQwD)
Yeah, right. He's just the least understood pope in history.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (39g3+)
I agree. It's not like English is some obscure language they need to translate from Italian.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 03, 2017 05:52 PM (J70i0)
"If we can help little #CharlieGard, as per our friends in the U.K. and the Pope, we would be delighted to do so.
- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 3, 2017
It's unclear how the U.S. government would be able to assist."
Yes, they actually followed the President's tweet with that snarky piece of shit.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 03, 2017 05:52 PM (o7l6R)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2017 05:53 PM (b/nXm)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 05:53 PM (6Ll1u)
Grrrrrrr. This way of thinking sets my hair on fire. Lets just call men worthless and encourage more deadbeats. Fathers are critical for healthy children. SPIT SPIT SPIT.
FUCKME!!!!!
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (zZWkn)
My ex wife maintains she wants supervision at 50-130 bucks an hour until our sons are 14. She believes this is healthy because I sent emails expressing concerns and desires to co-parent, which she calls accusatory. And she is literally blaming me for her acts of domestic violence, and saying under a sworn oath that her sworn oath testimony from 3 years ago did not happen.
Yep. In America as a father/man, when you have domestic violence happen against you, then it's your fault. I shit you not.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 05:53 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: King George III twitter feed at July 03, 2017 05:55 PM (kTF2Z)
That's a great way to go to the pen for perjury and maybe contempt of court.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 03, 2017 05:55 PM (6FqZa)
This shit is so sad. The state only knows how to kill.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 05:55 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:56 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 03, 2017 05:57 PM (Ri/rl)
That's a great way to go to the pen for perjury and maybe contempt of court.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 03, 2017 05:55 PM (6FqZa)
You would think, but she is a mom and its family court. They don't do that kind of things to their scared cows.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 05:57 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (emO+i)
She writes for National Review. Don't they all hate Trump?
Posted by: bknsty14 at July 03, 2017 05:51 PM (0gAY0)
He's the president of the United States. Not Trump. He's the president of the United States.
Posted by: George Clooney at July 03, 2017 05:57 PM (0gAY0)
The issue is he's on major life support I believe, so they can't just pick him up in a basket and run off.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:58 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: washrivergal at July 03, 2017 05:58 PM (ZrpvE)
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 05:59 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: phineas gage at July 03, 2017 05:59 PM (XsVWn)
Posted by: The GOP Congress at July 03, 2017 05:59 PM (l4aLi)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 05:53 PM (2qHjF)
Agreed that men usually get the short end of the stick. Not always. Kidlet is going to be 36 in Aug. I finally started getting back child support 4 months ago.
Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2017 06:00 PM (gDoff)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 05:55 PM (2qHjF)
A skill that was been honed for centuries, but has come close to perfection in the last century or so!!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 06:00 PM (gwPgz)
*Who got to John Roberts?
*Why did Benedict abdicate?
Can I irresponsibly speculate that the answer may be the same in each case?
Posted by: phineas gage at July 03, 2017 06:01 PM (XsVWn)
Unfortunately this sort of thing is not uncommon.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:01 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:40 PM (OdK9v)
I hear there is a cutoff on conversion.
ISWYDT.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 03, 2017 06:02 PM (LTHVh)
A lot of it is bad press from the Italians. Both Borgias were pretty firm against the Saracens, for one thing.
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:02 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:01 PM (0mRoj)
And people wonder why we are distrustful of the opposite sex.
Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2017 06:03 PM (gDoff)
My heart and prayers go out to little Charlie and his parents. May God bless them in this most difficult time.
Posted by: Cheri at July 03, 2017 06:03 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: GOULD [ught /u] at July 03, 2017 06:03 PM (segId)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:58 PM (39g3+)
A full-up specialized transportation and medevac flight operation is required, hence the public contributions to provide such a flight, but the option has been denied by the wisdom of the family's "betters" in the NHS.
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 06:05 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:05 PM (0mRoj)
i suppose i should be grateful to trump for his tweets. when they cause a brouhaha i have good reason not to watch the news for a few days.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 03, 2017 06:07 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: GOULD [ught /u] at July 03, 2017 06:07 PM (segId)
well, it's possible.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 03, 2017 06:09 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 03, 2017 06:10 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:05 PM
******
I would imagine that being a divorce lawyer requires that the advocate be a cold motherfucker.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 06:10 PM (Rsi2C)
Donald Trump is trying to discredit and destroy the press so people stop paying attention to them any longer thus eliminating the 1st amendment!
Because you know, people ignoring the press violates the constitution.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:11 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 05:59 PM (hMwEB)
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It's probably safe to plan for $500-$700.
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 06:13 PM (hi5+T)
Posted by: Larry Dumoff at July 03, 2017 06:13 PM (m9X4Y)
Posted by: GOULD at July 03, 2017 06:13 PM (segId)
Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (emO+i)
..........
she sure could use some biscuits. Smothered in butter. And some cheeseburgers.
Posted by: wth at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (Rsi2C)
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 06:13 PM (hi5+T)
the dealer wants $340 just for the front ones, I was thinking that seems high
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (hMwEB)
I would be standing in front of a camera with the biggest shark lawyer I could find. This story already has enough media attention in the UK to engage lawfare on anyone involved.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (b/nXm)
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When businesses want LESS attention paid to their product, it's rarely because the product is functioning as intended.
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (hi5+T)
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (hMwEB
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Seems a bit, but dealer service is important to a lot of folks. I was one for a while myself.
I'd recommend asking around and finding a good honest local shop if you're not bothered by non-dealer service receipts.
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 06:18 PM (hi5+T)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:05 PM
******
I would imagine that being a divorce lawyer requires that the advocate be a cold motherfucker.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 06:10 PM (Rsi2C)
It depends. There are some out there who try hard to vigorously represent their clients' interests without needlessly fanning the flames. Others will go out of their way to make things as nasty as possible.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:19 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (hMwEB)
The problem is going to the dealership. Around here they always charge a lot more. I suppose you've got a better chance of the work getting done right, but you will pay more.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 03, 2017 06:19 PM (4ErVI)
according to some experts in extra terrestrials, trump is tweeting in order to give me a reason not to watch the news.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 03, 2017 06:19 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:20 PM (kTF2Z)
according to some experts in extra terrestrials, trump is tweeting in order to give me a reason not to watch the news.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 03, 2017 06:19 PM (WTSFk)
Like the MFM hasn't done that pretty thoroughly already?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:20 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2017 06:20 PM (b/nXm)
We should fly doctors to the UK and treat the kid at a medical facility
on a joint Airbase. Yes, that would royally piss off our allies, but I
DARE them to try and punish the United States for medically treating a
child (with the parents explicit permission, no less), no matter how
much it "embarrassed" them.
Posted by: Rusty Nail
Really? Who pays?
Posted by: pep
You and I pay -- out of our several-trillion-dollar military budget.
Right now, all around the world, the US military is treating innumerable third-worlders for free, as part of humanitarian missions. It's actually most fo what the military does these days -- war-style shooting engagements take uop less time and money than "helpful" interventions (building hospitals Afghanistan, treating ebola patients in Africa, helping tsunami victims in Asia, etc. etc.).
Spending a couple thou on a quick mission to save a child would be about 0.0000001% of our annual humanitarian budget.
Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2017 06:21 PM (DQ4Fv)
Had to get new tires too. Luckily BJ's is doing a sale.
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:21 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:20 PM (kTF2Z)
Only if the car is under warranty. And even there depending on what it is they might try and give you this isn't covered spiel.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 03, 2017 06:22 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: stace, all out of bubblegum at July 03, 2017 06:23 PM (zzUT1)
Well that's because you're a free citizen and they are subjects of the crown.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:23 PM (39g3+)
My lawyer does not believe she even know that she is lying because she lies so much and has sailed through life without ever facing consquences and being held accountable for her actions.
She is truly fucked up and I wish for the sake of our kids I could fix her or make her get help but I can't...... And even worse I don't have faith that the court will make her get help either. It grinds you down as a human being to a state of learned helplessness, which is a dark place to be.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 06:23 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:24 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Kreplach at July 03, 2017 06:25 PM (9A6UB)
Depends upon make and model.
On rotors, I'd ask if the guy on the shop floor measured the thickness, and also ask what the factory spec is for minimum thickness.
In a lot of shops, cynically enough, "rotor resurfacing" often means leaving them totally alone and charging the customer for work, because the rotors are actually fine.
However, even in a shop that does do a resurfacing, on a disk that has surface issues requiring same, bear in mind that what's being done is to machine metal off of the brake disk, making it that much thinner.
And if the disk is already close to minimums, all it's doing is expensively hastening the day when it warps from being too thin, and you're back in the shop writing another check.
If you know for sure how many miles you've got on the disks, and it's a big number, or if you're hard on brakes, I'd ask to quote a full disk replacement v. resurfacing. I've seen that be a smaller number!
Posted by: torquewrench at July 03, 2017 06:26 PM (ujwCG)
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they do free inspections so that's what came up
I said I'd bring it back after I got the stuff fixed to get my sticker
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:26 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 03, 2017 05:52 PM (J70i0)
He's not Italian.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 06:26 PM (Id9+8)
lies so much and has sailed through life without ever facing consquences
and being held accountable for her actions.
Prayers Widespread. I went thru something similar. Just the opposite sex as you. I will pray for you. {{{Hugs}}}
Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2017 06:26 PM (gDoff)
Um. I know that song.
It was a painful lesson to learn: you cannot love someone enough to fix them. Our love is not enough to make someone better than who they are. They have to be part of the effort, too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:27 PM (39g3+)
Thanks, I will ask for a price for rotor replacement too when I call around
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:28 PM (hMwEB)
*****
So your ex is my mother? That makes you what? My stepfather?
I'm confused.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 06:31 PM (Rsi2C)
Some bog-standard maint tasks such as brakes, alignments, oil and trans fluid changes, and such can turn out to be attractively priced at a dealership service bay, with coupons. Check dealership Web sites.
It's a loss leader to get people in to hopefully sell them more expensive stuff once they are on the premises.
I've gone that route on vehicles I've owned, esp. if still under factory warranty. I would never pay full list for routine maintenance at a dealership, though.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 03, 2017 06:32 PM (ujwCG)
Um. I know that song.
It was a painful lesson to learn: you cannot love someone enough to fix them. Our love is not enough to make someone better than who they are. They have to be part of the effort, too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:27 PM (39g3+)
But there has to be incentive and, given the society in which we live, there rarely is such incentive.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:32 PM (0mRoj)
Well that's because you're a free citizen and they are subjects of the crown.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:23 PM (39g3+)
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And this is exactly what we'll be celebrating tomorrow.
Posted by: Soona at July 03, 2017 06:32 PM (Fmupd)
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I moved away from them long ago, but I found the best shop I'd ever experienced and they gained a loyal customer when I took in an old Mazda pickup I'd just bought to have everything looked over and made right.
Pre-internet so I didn't have many details of specs, but I asked them to change the timing belt. The boss called the next day and said they were finished but that it had a chain and there was no need to mess with it.
He could've just as easily charged me the $600 and laughed at my stupidity. What happened was that I went there exclusively until my family moved because of that one action.
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 06:33 PM (hi5+T)
Well that's because you're a free citizen and they are subjects of the crown.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:23 PM (39g3+)
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And this is exactly what we'll be celebrating tomorrow.
Posted by: Soona at July 03, 2017 06:32 PM (Fmupd)
You really shouldn't be.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at July 03, 2017 06:33 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:34 PM (HBU7W)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:34 PM (HBU7W)
They're called law enforcement officers. They'll restrain you at gunpoint and take you a lovely little place called jail.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at July 03, 2017 06:35 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:36 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 06:37 PM (IDPbH)
i had to go up to their school almost daily at the end of the year to make sure they were eating, and this is turned on me of course.
Pediasure because you and your extended family are too lazy and sorry to take time to cook and sit down with kids to make sure they eat.
*ragestroke*
Thanks Horde for letting me vent. God Bless Y'all!
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 06:38 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 03, 2017 06:38 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (hMwEB)
Even on Fox majority of so called journalists are mightily threatened by a tweet.
Posted by: Decaf at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (U5yng)
Her: Yes, I married you. That's on me. I really thought you would have changed by now.
Me: Seriously? The spots on this leopard are fifty years old. You really thought you would change me?
So, first marriage ended in death. Second ends in divorce. There won't be a third. I'm fine with that.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (HBU7W)
Prayers for you. Stay strong.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 06:40 PM (Rsi2C)
Let me guess...you're "angry" "controlling" and "disruptive" for trying to keep your kids from being malnourished. Am I close?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:42 PM (0mRoj)
Men do get screwed over in divorces and especially in regards to children. Not all the time, but.. a lot. And it's not right.
I hope all the guys out there that have had that experience know that there are decent females out there who know that you're an integral part of your child's life and don't want to see you estranged from your child via lawfare.
Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 06:42 PM (aT+Bx)
a young single mom (son, about 14 mos.) attempted to state her disgust with the story about the baby's plight she'd read on facebook.
she couldn't stand that people were trying to say that national healthcare isn't doing right by the baby. she thought it was terrible that people were talking bad about the UK's government, and generalizing about singlepayer here....
whew! she was severely confused. just kept repeating this. her main point was that how did we know it wasn't the best thing? and why shouldn't we have national healthcare, too?
Posted by: booknlass at July 03, 2017 06:44 PM (6Xf+s)
Abby - been there. Nuff said. Prayers your way as well. And hey look! - we made it!
Posted by: grammie winger - o how we danced at July 03, 2017 06:44 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:44 PM (HBU7W)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (kTF2Z)
Come to Pensacola and live in sin with me.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 06:45 PM (Id9+8)
For my part, I apologize. I mean no slight toward women in general or ettes in specific. I know good women are out there, I was raised by one, and surrounded by them in my family. Its how I expected women to be.
But when you get burned over and over, its hard for that painful scar not to form over your heart.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:46 PM (39g3+)
We should fly doctors to the UK and treat the kid at a medical facility
on a joint Airbase. Yes, that would royally piss off our allies, but I
DARE them to try and punish the United States for medically treating a
child (with the parents explicit permission, no less), no matter how
much it "embarrassed" them.
Posted by: Rusty Nail
Really? Who pays?
Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:33 PM (LAe3v)
Supposedly, the parents have raised the money through donations; if correct, then they pay. If they wanted their child flown to the U.S. for treatment at the expense of UK's NHS then that is different.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 03, 2017 06:47 PM (5Yee7)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (kTF2Z)
Come to Pensacola and live in sin with me.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 06:45 PM (Id9+
What am I, chopped liver? Oh right...cat allergy. Dammit.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:47 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:48 PM (HBU7W)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (kTF2Z)
Come to Pensacola and live in sin with me.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 06:45 PM (Id9+
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Could I talk you into Nashville? I mean, you already have the title. Wouldn't even have to change the monogram on your luggage.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:48 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: ibguy at July 03, 2017 06:49 PM (vUcdz)
I hope all the guys out there that have had that experience know that there are decent females out there who know that you're an integral part of your child's life and don't want to see you estranged from your child via lawfare.
Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 06:42 PM (aT+Bx)
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I do have to say that my divorce was remarkably civil. My Ex had inherited some substantial family coin, so we agreed to leave each others individual assets alone and split the sale of the house and our one joint investment account.
We also put our daughter first, which was nice.
Posted by: GOULD at July 03, 2017 06:49 PM (segId)
Let me guess...you're "angry" "controlling" and "disruptive" for trying to keep your kids from being malnourished. Am I close?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:42 PM (0mRoj)
Yep. And delusional for bringing up the domestic violence facts she admitted in court. And even though I've never been violent nor have a history of violence, her lawyer actually framed a question to where is justified in her fear of me because of the fact that she was violent towards me in the past.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 06:49 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2017 06:49 PM (gDoff)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:46 PM
****
Of course it is. I don't the comments from morons about women in a personal way bc I understand what is causing them. It's still hard to read sometimes when they take over a thread. I just leave when it gets to be too much for me to read. I feel bad for all you guys and what you've had to go through with bad women.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 06:50 PM (Rsi2C)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 03, 2017 06:50 PM (OlNRF)
already have the title. Wouldn't even have to change the monogram on
your luggage.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:48 PM (kTF2Z)
I could be amenable to Nashville. And after all, we do having matching titles.
No luggage, but I do have a cat. Are you allergic?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 06:51 PM (Id9+8)
Posted by: booknlass at July 03, 2017 06:52 PM (6Xf+s)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 06:53 PM (Id9+8)
Posted by: booknlass at July 03, 2017 06:54 PM (6Xf+s)
We own the DVD.
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:56 PM (HBU7W)
Nashville is great
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:58 PM (HBU7W)
Men do get screwed over in divorces and especially in regards to children. Not all the time, but.. a lot. And it's not right.
I hope all the guys out there that have had that experience know that there are decent females out there who know that you're an integral part of your child's life and don't want to see you estranged from your child via lawfare.
Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 06:42 PM (aT+Bx)
It's only white women under 40 who are infected with the mind virus
I blame feminism, white knights, and social media.
But yes I'd give a limb for a decent woman in my life since I obviously can't have my sons in my life. I'd love to move closer to home, work on myself, and get set up with a good woman through family contacts. I know they exist.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 06:58 PM (2qHjF)
Which is why I'm aiming for the beach in Pensacola. It doesn't care, one way or another.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 07:04 PM (Id9+8)
Posted by: Sharkman at July 03, 2017 07:11 PM (5djUI)
What's the worse-case scenario? The child dies anyway? No; the worst-case is that the Blob-ocracy is no longer in control. That is their nightmare scenario.
As for the Professional Liar Media; they are uninterested in a Trump tweet that's not about them. CNN was sponsoring the Trump/Caesar Assassination Play and the New York Times gave directions to the baseball field to the Democrat assassin, plus helpful tips about the security detail.
But Trump is Quashing Dissent(tm).
Dirtbag Liars.
I like Trump more every day.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 03, 2017 07:14 PM (Ndje9)
Which is why I'm aiming for the beach in Pensacola. It doesn't care, one way or another.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 07:04 PM (Id9+
I either need older or generation Z, both of those groups are conservative.
At this point a night of spooning, watching a couple of movies, and falling asleep and waking up to cook breakfast would be like losing a second virginity for me.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 07:25 PM (2qHjF)
youngest is about the same age, and I can tell you in deadly seriousness
that if some bureaucrat tried to tell me I couldn't pursue a treatment
he needed, I would kill them. And I don't mean that metaphorically. I
mean that I would literally murder that person. With no remorse.
The practical side of me gets that there's no chance. But the parent
side gets that if there's a 0.00000000001% chance for your baby, you
fucking take it because that is your baby.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (JPRju)
This.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 03, 2017 07:27 PM (FTXAT)
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 05:59 PM (hMwEB)
Take your minivan to O'Reiley's Auto Parts, or NAPA, or Auto Zone, or Advanced Auto Parts. Pick any two, but DO get quotes from two or more.
Pads, Rotors and Fluid. Get the parts prices.
Then, ask 'em for a referral to an independent, local mechanic of good repute. Get one such referral from each parts store, if you have the time.
Get a quote for the labor only, to 'em to spin the wrenches so as to effect the removal of the old parts, and the installation of the new bits you'd bought over the counter.
My mechanic does 'em for me at the price of only $20 per corner. Because it only takes him about fifteen minutes per corner, start to finish.
It would cost a LOT more to get rotors turned and resurfaced. That's because each rotor is going to be on the lathe for another ten or fifteen minutes each, not counting the labor to mount each disc to the lathe, measure the remaining thickness, test for runout to be within tolerances, etc.
Those Made in China brake rotors the auto parts stores sell, seem to work just fine for me. YMMV.
Good luck to you, ma'am!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 03, 2017 07:51 PM (v5iqM)
Posted by: torabora at July 03, 2017 08:43 PM (Q1UO3)
I'm glad to see the Pope and President Trump get involved in this!
Good luck to that family, and I hope their baby ends up living to be 100 years old!
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 03, 2017 10:30 PM (3YxFh)
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