Hollywood Blues: Worst Memorial Day for Box Office; Reviews Are Apparently to Blame

Before getting to that:

It should be noted that movies are only one aspect of Hollywood. When we say "Hollywood," we must also think of television, which is doing... well, I don't know it's doing. I do know all of The Elites spend hours and hours watching it because we're in a Golden Age or something.

Point is, theatrical production and exhibition is only one part of this industry.

That said, I have to note Steven Spielberg's seeming prescience.

Steven Spielberg on Wednesday predicted an "implosion" in the film industry is inevitable, whereby a half dozen or so $250 million movies flop at the box office and alter the industry forever. What comes next -- or even before then -- will be price variances at movie theaters, where "you're gonna have to pay $25 for the next Iron Man, you're probably only going to have to pay $7 to see Lincoln." He also said that Lincoln came "this close" to being an HBO movie instead of a theatrical release.
George Lucas agreed that massive changes are afoot, including film exhibition morphing somewhat into a Broadway play model, whereby fewer movies are released, they stay in theaters for a year and ticket prices are much higher. His prediction prompted Spielberg to recall that his 1982 film E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial stayed in theaters for a year and four months.

Yeah, I left in George Lucas' part because it's so obviously wrong.

The real movie side of Hollywood-- including theatrical distribution, not just PPV stuff -- is in trouble.

Here's the problem:

1. Television picture quality has advanced to the point where there is not really a big premium on seeing a movie at the theater. I used to always have to see the big spectacle movies on the big screen, but I don't any longer. For one thing, spectacle is now commonplace and CGI is often lame, and for another thing, there's really not that big of a difference between "The Big Screen" and a good-sized TV.

The big screen has the best theoretical resolution and sound, but how many times do you get to see a movie where the projector is perfectly focused and the sound is perfect? And you don't have idiots yapping next to you?

2. Because of the overseas market, and because Hollywood needs a reason to draw people into the theater instead of just waiting six months to watch it on demand on TV, Hollywood really can only make one kind of movie now. Gotta be big, gotta be splodey, gotta be something that can be plausibly claimed to be "better in 3D" or "mindblowing in Imax."

Don't get me wrong, I like a good popcorn movie with explosions, but when that's the only kind of movie you can make, the novelty of such a thing quickly diminishes, and you have to start making movies that are really third-tier material at best.

When's the last time you saw a big movie advertised that wasn't about superheroes or reboots of tv shows from the 60s to 80s?

Where are the detective movies? I only remember the Reacher films and The Nice Guys.

Where are the comedies? Fewer and fewer -- as with detective movies, comedy relies on dialogue, and that doesn't play well with foreign audiences. And even where there is a comedy, it's often a comedy-action-special-effects hybrid, like Ghostbusters, which gives not one but three different Failure Paths.

War movies? Well, you can't make a movie about our current wars, which are Bad, and even movies about World War Two have to be about something other than war. Saving Private Ryan was about the rescue of a single soldier, and Dunkirk -- which looks pretty good -- is about an evacuation/rescue/escape. Which is, yes, part of war obviously, but note that it's not about beating our enemies. It's about saving lives.

Same with Hacksaw Ridge. Yes, part of war (medics need love and haven't gotten enough), but we're running into the same problem where the number of things you can make a movie about are getting smaller and smaller. War is a spectacle and so should make for a movie -- except, you can only do war movies where This Time, The Mission is a Man.

How many of those can they do?

Horror remains a popular genre and we still get a lot of those (some pretty darned good!), but it's a niche genre that most people don't like.

Sure, there are exceptions here and there, but basically you have movies based on cartoons, or movies that are cartoons (children's fare), or attempts to turn a children's toy or game into some kind of Shard Universe. (Which GI Joe and the Micronauts are apparently doing -- there'll be some kind of Hasbro Toy Cinematic Universe. Maybe.)

Eh. I'm a fairly childish adult but even I can only take so much of childish things.

3. TV is, I keep being told, in a "Golden Age" where you have "actual stories you care about" or something, though when I see it, it always looks like a premise that could have been dealt with in a movie or six episode miniseries but gets padded out with all the same potboiler/soap opera twists and turns we've seen six thousand times so that they can make a full season of it.

Anyway, TV is more and more for anything that isn't about superheroes or aliens.

So the theatrical side of Hollywood finds itself in a fix similar to the one it faced in the 50s, when TV first became big.

Oh, and a lot of their movies are terrible and fall into the category of I Didn't Ask For This. That Great Wall movie with Matt Damon? Um... A movie about the Great Wall and the Mongol wars might have been interesting, but now it has to be about Giant Space Monsters or whatever.

Because Imax.

I've seen enough Giant Monsters From Space. Seriously.

Spectacle is too common and too easily achieved now to be spectacular. The most "spectacular" parts of movies are just CGI cartoons now and most could GAF -- and many people wonder, "Why not just have the hero and villain fight? Without all the super space explosions." Few have anything nice to say about Batman v. Superman, but many complain, rightly, that the garishly cartoonish fight at the end was the worst part of the movie.

I hear people are saying the same about the otherwise-well-reviewed Wonder Woman -- once again, the stuff they spend the most money on is the stuff that makes people wonder, "Why didn't they just have her kick the bad guy's ass for a bit?"

It's just boring now. When everything is a CGI Extravaganza, nothing is a CGI Extravaganza.

Anyway, the rash of failures is prompting some to complain that reviewers, who no one listens to anyway, are to blame for this.

But here's the thing:

No one wanted a Baywatch reboot. They estimated the Brand Value of the IP was high. They were wrong.

But they felt forced into Exploiting a Known IP because... I don't know. A movie without a pre-existing brand identity would be punted to Netflix or something.

No one wanted a Pirates of the Caribbean 5. In fact, no one wanted a Pirates of the Caribbean 3, and definitely not a 4. (We did want a Pirates of the Caribbean 2... until we saw Pirates of the Caribbean 2.)

Movies are largely about novelty, fellas. These things are not novel. Even the idea of doing a spoof of a bad, poorly-remembered TV show is old -- Brady Bunch did it. Starsky and Hutch did it. 21 Jump Street did it. Some of those movies are fun, but the idea of doing a silly spoof of a bad old TV show is old.

Clint Eastwood is doing a movie about those three Americans who thwarted the knife-and-gun attack on the Thalys train running from Brussels to Paris. I assume Hollywood only permitted this because they're all afraid of saying no to Clint Eastwood. And they fucking should be.

That's kind of new, just because it's so not of-the-moment. It's new because people don't do suspense movies with Problematic Overtones any more.

Tom Cruise's movies are like that too -- he's the only guy doing a particular kind of movie, where the late eighties never really died. Shooting and stunts and no giant space monsters (usually). Good bless him.

But everything else is so samey-samey.

And it kind of has to be. Anything else isn't a movie in today's climate -- it's something you pitch to a pay tv channel, and then pad it out until it's boring.

I don't know how they're going to solve this. In the 50s, Hollywood trotted out spectacles and introduced Panavision and Technicolor and stuff to differentiate theatrical pictures from TV fare, but spectacle is dead, and I can't think of any kind of technological innovation that would make seeing a movie on the screen a big must any more.

I don't even blame it on a lack of creativity (though, you know, some would be nice.) There are economic and social forces now arrayed against theatrical exhibition of films that I think are completely unstoppable.

Posted by: Ace at 08:30 PM

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1 George Lucas agreed that massive changes are afoot, including film exhibition morphing somewhat into a Broadway play model, whereby fewer movies are released, they stay in theaters for a year and ticket prices are much higher.

LOL.

That's friggin retarded. Broadway shows do that because ... there's only ONE theater the show can be seen at.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 08:33 PM (zc3Db)

2 People be readin' the content now?

Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2017 08:34 PM (s5o+q)

3 yo

Posted by: Ralph at May 31, 2017 08:35 PM (adlcU)

4 top 10

Posted by: thathalfrican - Luchini aka This Is It What at May 31, 2017 08:35 PM (IYHxL)

5 Tucker is talking about the same thing Ace just talked about in last thread.

Is he a lurker?

Posted by: Ralph at May 31, 2017 08:36 PM (adlcU)

6 Apropos of both this and the previous Acepost . . . I've finally talked the Mrs. into cord-cutting!

Going from $160/month to probably somewhere around $100/month, and most of that is the high-speed internet service.

Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2017 08:36 PM (s5o+q)

7
The problem with movies is that they are not loud enough, lack of explosions and special effects.
BOOM!

Posted by: Michael Bay at May 31, 2017 08:36 PM (t6XCL)

8 Thus do I prophesy...

After Avengers: The Infinity War next year...it's over. That will be it.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2017 08:36 PM (F0ZHr)

9 Nashville scores first

Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 08:36 PM (qJhUV)

10 Television picture quality has advanced to the point where there is not really a big premium on seeing a movie at the theater.

--Same is happening with live sports, which is why cities forking out hundreds of millions on arenas for billionaires thinking the payoff will be huge is ignorant and wasteful, if not immoral.

Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2017 08:37 PM (GsAUU)

11 Valid points all. I miss good comedies that do not involve only biological function jokes.

Airplane! we hardly knew ye.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 08:37 PM (ZgkX8)

12 You can't blame me for the dip. Interstellar was the last movie I paid for.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:37 PM (CcuKY)

13 Hollywood should remake "Gentleman's Agreement" but send the hero in as a Muslim who blows the country club up at the end. Yeah! That'll satisfy left and right.

Posted by: SFGoth at May 31, 2017 08:37 PM (dZ756)

14 i'm sad to say i was dragged to the pirates of the carribean movie...i saw the beginning and the end....slept through the middle.....what i saw was ok.....way better than the second but not even close to as good as the first......

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at May 31, 2017 08:37 PM (0O7c5)

15 There's some good stuff on Netflix and Amazon, but even that is hit or miss. I actually like the Netflix Marvel stuff because it's slower-paced, which I like. It allows for a little more character development. The Man In The High Castle is a good series, as well as Bosch. Both benefit from being able to tell longer stories than would be available in two hours.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 08:37 PM (fKWf6)

16 I liked going to the movies back in 19-something. I liked going to the mall. Now it's VOD, prime shipping for everything. Doesn't anyone else want to get out of the damn house sometime?

Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 08:38 PM (ANIFC)

17 Saving money for legal defense?
Low profile to escape criminal charges?
Accelerating depreciation writeoffs?
Hoping the Chicoms have good story ideas?

What the hell?

Posted by: 80's music fan at May 31, 2017 08:39 PM (HCnEB)

18 Valid points all. I miss good comedies that do not involve only biological function jokes.

Airplane! we hardly knew ye.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 08:37 PM (ZgkX

The problem is that comedy relies on pointing out the absurd around us, but in the modern world pointing out the absurdity of any "disadvantaged" group gets you lynched.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 08:39 PM (fKWf6)

19 Yeah, being more selective with their audiences at $25/ticket. Someone obviously thinks they are French film auteurs.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 08:39 PM (GBWQj)

20 Why would I want to leave the surround sound and beer of my home theater for a skinny porno looking multiplex?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:39 PM (CcuKY)

21 9 Nashville scores first
Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 08:36 PM (qJhUV)

--No NBCSN.

Grrr.

Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2017 08:39 PM (GsAUU)

22 Yeah, there was a big difference between movie and TV screens, and sound systems, from the 50s through the 80s. Not so much today.

I've also learned to make hella good popcorn at home. And it doesn't cost me $5-7 a serving.

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

23 Cruise is very good at space monster movies. Edge of Tomorrow was classic (I know it ate sh!t at the theatre but the DVD sales were strong). And now he's in The Mummy, which counts as a Shadow Out Of Time if not space.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 08:39 PM (6FqZa)

24 Hollywood is being gobbled up by China. That's how you know it's over. The foreign buyers are always the last. There is no "greater fool" left.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 08:39 PM (zc3Db)

25 They are just out of ideas. They keep remaking this or that but it usually pales in comparison to the original. Usually the best movies I've seen are little known titles I run across in the video store. Yeah.. we actually still have a video store in my little hamlet.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 31, 2017 08:39 PM (CNHr1)

26 Movies are shitty and demographics are going to kill them.

Most movies are made for teen age boys and young men. They are doing other shit.

The millennials are settling down and the baby boomer will wait to see the shit on Netflix

Posted by: Ralph at May 31, 2017 08:40 PM (adlcU)

27 8 Thus do I prophesy...

After Avengers: The Infinity War next year...it's over. That will be it.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2017 08:36 PM (F0ZHr)

I am not sure I would say that. If they deliver a good story and good characters, they could still be ok. My worry is that they will deliver try for just spectacle that people will say 'meh' to.

Now this might not be a bad thing, but I like at least some of those movies and would like to see more good ones.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 08:41 PM (ZgkX8)

28 Marvel had nothing to lose, and so they took some risks and made a pretty good Iron Man movie.

Now there's a lot on the line, there's a lot to lose, so all their new stuff seems really, really safe. I fell asleep twice trying to watch Doctor Strange.

Once "profit" is the main thing, you lose a lot of the urge to take risks.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 31, 2017 08:41 PM (MZcWR)

29 Isn't Tom Cruise a little old for doing Tom Cruise movies?

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 31, 2017 08:41 PM (hJrjt)

30 "Wonder Woman" is the only movie out there that I would consider buying a ticket for. Other than that, I can use Amazon Prime and/or Netflix and see movies in the comfort and safety of my own home.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (uBKPR)

31 I am glad that Hollywood so far has avoided trying to remake Top Secret and Real Genius.

"What were Socrates' last words? 'I drank what?'"

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (GBWQj)

32 re but how many times do you get to see a movie where the projector is perfectly focused and the sound is perfect? And you don't have idiots yapping next to you?

Oh, or when you pay $15 for the "enhanced" experience at the Flatirons AMC and the ticket you have to get is in the front right corner. Where the picture is distorted and awful. Hell with that, unless you're seating me next to Carice "Melisandre" van Houten and she's scratching my left ear throughout the movie

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (6FqZa)

33 The last really quality thing that I saw was Philip Seymour Hoffman's last pic...A Most Dangerous Man.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (F0ZHr)

34

And you don't have idiots yapping next to you?

That's why I don't go.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (IqV8l)

35 Isn't Tom Cruise a little old for doing Tom Cruise movies?

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 31, 2017 08:41 PM (hJrjt)

They let Harrison Ford keep doing action movies into his 90s. Even his stunt doubles were 70+.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (zc3Db)

36 >>>Isn't Tom Cruise a little old for doing Tom Cruise movies?

he is, but who else can get greenlit?

Also, he's the only one who seems to want to do these things. A lot of his stuff is in-house. He's developing this stuff, not just being hired on.

So like, I figure, he bought the Reacher rights because he wanted to do the Reacher movie.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (8rNrN)

37 Don't forget the commercials...in the theater. I love those.

Posted by: nip at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (28rfK)

38 The only movies I see in the theatre are when I'm babysitting and I take the rugrats.

I did see 13 hours in the theatre.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (Ri/rl)

39 The problem is that comedy relies on pointing out the absurd around us, but in the modern world pointing out the absurdity of any "disadvantaged" group gets you lynched.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 08:39 PM (fKWf6)

Will that be chanting or non chanting sir?

Chanting, please.

Here you go.

----

I had a good joke relating to snack bars, but thought better of it on a work computer...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 08:43 PM (ZgkX8)

40 15 There's some good stuff on Netflix and Amazon, but even that is hit or miss. I actually like the Netflix Marvel stuff because it's slower-paced, which I like. It allows for a little more character development. The Man In The High Castle is a good series, as well as Bosch. Both benefit from being able to tell longer stories than would be available in two hours.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 08:37 PM (fKWf6)

--High Castle is okay, but I feel like I'm missing something having not read the book (I'm almost finished with Season 1).

The best originals to me have been Sneaky Pete and You are Wanted. Both of course left huge cliffhangers after the first season.

Posted by: logprof, with added couvfefe at May 31, 2017 08:43 PM (GsAUU)

41 And Harrison Ford in 2020 is bringing back Indiana Jones, guess this time Indy is looking for the Fountain of Youth.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 08:43 PM (GBWQj)

42 Isn't Tom Cruise a little old for doing Tom Cruise movies?

Yeah, Top Gun II. How they gonna do that?

Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 08:43 PM (qJhUV)

43 I watched Logan the other night. I guess that's it for the X-Men, huh.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:43 PM (CcuKY)

44 Last movie I saw in the theater was Castaway.

SPOILER ALERT: he gets off the island.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:44 PM (Sfs6o)

45 Yeah, Top Gun II. How they gonna do that?

He's to old to even play Jester.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:44 PM (CcuKY)

46 Indy will be looking for his misplaced pilot's licence

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 08:44 PM (6FqZa)

47 I don't go to movies. Don't even watch DVDs or watch network programs, or HBO or Netflix or Hulu. Not to my taste, so it's no sacrifice to give them up.

But I love classical music. I used to have season tickets to the opera and symphony and also donated generously.

Now, no more. Not another ticket, not another dollar. I will never again set foot in a concert hall. Because the arts community has made clear the level of contempt they have for dull, bourgeois lumps like me who have paying jobs, go to work, pay my bills and try to live a normal life.

So, I can purchase and download (or even record online) a much greater variety of music than I can hear live. I might lose something, but it's a trade I'm willing to make. Sure, the musicians will get a pittance or nothing, but that's a feature, not a bug.

Want me back? Try having some respect for those who buy tickets.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 08:44 PM (IMNWu)

48 >>>And Harrison Ford in 2020 is bringing back Indiana Jones, guess this time Indy is looking for the Fountain of Youth.

is that last part true?

Because, you know, if he finds it -- metamorphosis into Chris Pine.

Though that would be deeply dumb.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:44 PM (8rNrN)

49 31 I am glad that Hollywood so far has avoided trying to remake Top Secret and Real Genius.

"What were Socrates' last words? 'I drank what?'"
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (GBWQj)

Well, maybe you are smarter than me- but can you do this? *dances away*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 08:44 PM (ZgkX8)

50 War movies? Well, you can't make a movie about our current wars, which are Bad, and even movies about World War Two have to be about something other than war. Saving Private Ryan was about the rescue of a single soldier, and Dunkirk -- which looks pretty good -- is about an evacuation/rescue/escape. Which is, yes, part of war obviously, but note that it's not about beating our enemies. It's about saving lives.

++++

It's tough to do a WWII movie because it's tough to make it interesting. Allies good, axis bad. What can you do with that? Hollywood loves to flip things and make you see the other side of the bad guys, but how are you going to do that with Nazis? The Imperial Japanese weren't much better. You just can't make them misunderstood. We understand them all too well.

The Americans and their allies have to be the good guys. But, that tale has been told and lots of times. You want to get people excited about seeing a new WWII movie, you have to figure out a fresh angle on it. Not easy to do. But then, I'm not making those big Hollywood screenwriter bucks.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (R+30W)

51 Horror remains a popular genre and we still get a lot of those (some pretty darned good!), but it's a niche genre that most people don't like.

Horror is cheap so you can recoup almost certainly and if you do hit? You hit YUGE. Plus you can address problematic issues within the framework of horror because it's just horror.

Speaking of, the Spectrum anti-Directv Now ad with the monsters in it is funny because the scariest thing in it is the marionette as is true.

I am a cinephile and I nearly never go to the movies anymore. It's ridiculously expensive and my eight year old tv has fantastic resolution and my food and my bathroom are right here. Why would I shell out the price of three months of Netflix to go see a movie and get a small popcorn and a small drink?

That being said, I will probably go see Valerian on the huge screen because it is a spectacle and I'm a sucker for Besson's band of crazy though wtf Lucy. W.T.A.F.

Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (dEQP3)

52 It's not the yapping - it's the smelly people. Why, why are they so smelly?

Posted by: Batterup at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (mtGE/)

53 I am glad that Hollywood so far has avoided trying to remake Top Secret and Real Genius.

"What were Socrates' last words? 'I drank what?'"
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (GBWQj)

Consider the horrorfests which would be modern remakes of "Airplane!" or "Blazing Saddles."

Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (s5o+q)

54 "I don't know how they're going to solve this."

Brings me to tears, it does.

Posted by: Rhymes with Covfefe at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (YtUUu)

55 Last movie I saw in the theater was Castaway.

SPOILER ALERT: he gets off the island.

Apollo 13.
SPOILER ALERT: They make it back.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (qJhUV)

56 Indiana Jones and the Early Bird Special

Posted by: fluffy at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (jw2Xw)

57 Ace, there are two primary but mundane reasons why movies-in-theaters is a dying format:

"Pause" and "Rewind."

I stopped going to movie theaters 15 or more years ago, and the main reason was that, while at home, I could pause the film to take a leak, or rewind it to see the explosion again -- but in the theater that was not possible.

I began to realize -- a realization that by now has struck most people -- that seeing a movie in a theater is almost always LESS enjoyable than seeing it at home, because of "pause," "rewind," and also "couch," "pajamas," "beer," "bonus features" and "not having to smell the farts of the guy in front of you."

Home TV screens are ridiculously hi-res these days, too. So theaters to not have an advantage there either.

Sure, a small percentage of the population needs somewhere to "go out for a night on the town," but most don't anymore.

Having total idiosyncratic control over one's home viewing experience is what really killed the movie theater industry.

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (DQ4Fv)

58 As I have said here a few times I have paid to see 2 movies in a theater in the last 20 years: Lone Survivor, and American Sniper

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 08:46 PM (SjImc)

59 >>>45 Yeah, Top Gun II. How they gonna do that?

He's to old to even play Jester.

...

he's now the instructor, and he's stationed near a war zone for some kind of tactical advise, but he's forced to take a plane when a terrorist bomb kills and injures several pilots.

easy peasy lemon squeezy.

basically he's now Tom Skerrit but also he has to take to the air to help his students win.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:46 PM (8rNrN)

60 Ace, why do you think I put the word' guess' in there. I was riffing on the only thing that would be funny and make sense besides "Quest for the Metamucil."

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 08:46 PM (GBWQj)

61 Pittsburgh ties it up

Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 08:46 PM (qJhUV)

62 >>>"Pause" and "Rewind."

I stopped going to movie theaters 15 or more years ago, and the main reason was that, while at home, I could pause the film to take a leak, or rewind it to see the explosion again -- but in the theater that was not possible.

...

very true.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:46 PM (8rNrN)

63 23 Cruise is very good at space monster movies. Edge of Tomorrow was classic (I know it ate sh!t at the theatre but the DVD sales were strong). And now he's in The Mummy, which counts as a Shadow Out Of Time if not space.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 08:39 PM (6FqZa)

I hear that Universal is going back to their roots & will be doing a "shared universe" with their monster movies, beginning with "The Mummy."

Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 08:46 PM (ANIFC)

64 CGI spectacle is dead, I bet if you started making practical action films you could lure a ton of people back.

Think Mad Max.

I could do with a modern practically shot Towering Inferno or Earthquake in Sensurround.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 31, 2017 08:47 PM (9A6UB)

65 58 As I have said here a few times I have paid to see 2 movies in a theater in the last 20 years: Lone Survivor, and American Sniper
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 08:46 PM (SjImc)

I forgot, we saw American Sniper in the theatre too. The audience stood and applauded. First and only time I've seen that happen in a theatre.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:47 PM (Ri/rl)

66 Hey, I liked "Lucy."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 31, 2017 08:47 PM (MZcWR)

67 Movies were a great way to socialize with people you didn't really want to talk to. Now we have Facebook.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 08:48 PM (zkGZ8)

68 he's now the instructor, and he's stationed near a war zone for some kind of tactical advise, but he's forced to take a plane when a terrorist bomb kills and injures several pilots.

easy peasy lemon squeezy.

basically he's now Tom Skerrit but also he has to take to the air to help his students win.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:46 PM (8rNrN)

No. That's a remake of Iron Eagle ... and he's Lou Gossett Jr.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 08:48 PM (zc3Db)

69
Last movie I saw in the theater was Castaway.

SPOILER ALERT: he gets off the island.

I assume there was no professor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2017 08:48 PM (IqV8l)

70 Re foreign box office vs. American box office, I think it's the "Air America effect" writ large. By trying to appeal - sorta - to a whole bunch of people, you end up appealing to ... nobody.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 08:48 PM (SRKgf)

71 Apropos of nothing, I like Tom Skerrit as an actor.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:48 PM (CcuKY)

72 >>>It's tough to do a WWII movie because it's tough to make it interesting. Allies good, axis bad. What can you do with that? Hollywood loves to flip things and make you see the other side of the bad guys, but how are you going to do that with Nazis? The Imperial Japanese weren't much better. You just can't make them misunderstood. We understand them all too well.

"Valkyrie" kind of did that and it was awesome. Thought it was a suspense/espionage movie, that just happened to take place during WWII.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:48 PM (8rNrN)

73 Hey, I liked "Lucy."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 31, 2017 08:47 PM (MZcWR)

Ricky: I loved her.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2017 08:48 PM (auHtY)

74 Robin Olds was 45 when he was killing MiGs over Vietnam. Tom Cruise as a fighter pilot in 2017 is believable.

Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 08:48 PM (ANIFC)

75 48 >>>And Harrison Ford in 2020 is bringing back Indiana Jones, guess this time Indy is looking for the Fountain of Youth.
is that last part true?
Because, you know, if he finds it -- metamorphosis into Chris Pine.
Though that would be deeply dumb.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:44 PM (8rNrN)

In all seriousness: reboot with Chris Pratt as Indie's son & run with it from there.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2017 08:48 PM (mvKQt)

76 or attempts to turn a children's toy or game into some kind of Shard Universe. (Which GI Joe and the Micronauts are apparently doing -- there'll be some kind of Hasbro Toy Cinematic Universe. Maybe.)

*Ahem*

Posted by: Shia LaBeouf at May 31, 2017 08:49 PM (vRcUp)

77 he's now the instructor, and he's stationed near a war zone for some
kind of tactical advise, but he's forced to take a plane when a
terrorist bomb kills and injures several pilots.

easy peasy lemon squeezy.

basically he's now Tom Skerrit but also he has to take to the air to help his students win.

They should let Harrison Ford into it. He could do his own flying.
That could be entertaining.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 08:49 PM (qJhUV)

78 Iron Eagle?

You mean the IAF F-16A Netz with the unlimited bombs option?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 08:49 PM (GBWQj)

79
Seeing a movie in a theater with an audience is a sociological/cultural/psychological experience that you just cannot get at home unless you can replicate a theatre like setting with a fairly large screen. I think theaters are in essence here to stay, in that regard.

That said, making the Return of the Son of Monster Magnet Part 6 with Amy Schumer as Brian Dennehy for a cost of $150 million not including P&A is not as they say "sustainable."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:49 PM (mbhDw)

80 Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (DQ4Fv)

Now I know you're a guy, chicks don't say take a leak.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:49 PM (Ri/rl)

81 Also, I have never been disappointed by a Jason Statham film and yet the effects are minimal.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:50 PM (CcuKY)

82 I wanted to like Lucy but unfortunately that was in the movie where I sat next to passive-aggressive sighing douchebag.

So, why don't people do to movies, one big reason is passive-aggressive sighing dickhead, along with his wife Mrs Texty, and their kids Bratty and Whiny.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 08:50 PM (6FqZa)

83 Credits rolling on the most recent "Avengers" movie...

My wife: "I'm sick of CGI; physically sick of it."

Me: "I was just thinking how much I want to watch 'Swimming to Cambodia' right now."

(True story.)

Posted by: RKae at May 31, 2017 08:50 PM (i3rHh)

84 One of the worst sci-fi films ever made? Spielberg's AI.

Posted by: 13times at May 31, 2017 08:50 PM (WHVu+)

85 Hollyweird is the shock troop of the SJW fascists.

From homos having sex in the mountains, to evil white guys replacing muzzie terrorists as the "bad" guys in every movie, to evil HMO and health care providers not providing health care as a right, to 98 pound broads imitating GySgt. Basilone at Guadalcanal, they make this crap they call movies and sell it to the willing morons who can't buy it up fast enough. Then the morons actually come to believe what they watch because they are ignorant and are happy to remain so. Every movie I have seen or glimpsed by accident recently has had some SJW dogma couched in at every opportunity.

It's a wonder people want to watch the drek they put out.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2017 08:50 PM (5VlCp)

86 Great Scott.

I think the blog has tripped the light fantastic.

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 08:51 PM (JACOL)

87 >>>CGI spectacle is dead, I bet if you started making practical action films you could lure a ton of people back.

Think Mad Max.

...

not as CGI free as claimed. Obvious big stuff, like the sandstorm with lightning and other big silly things.

The Mission Impossible 5 movie was mostly CGI-free. Pretty amazing. Best motorcycle chase I've ever seen.

Though what I think they did is filmed real motorcyles on real cliffside roads but then digitally added the traffic they were weaving around. But as that's a background kind of element, you don't notice that maybe that truck wasn't real.

PS I don't know that, I'm just speculating. I just think some of the high-speed stuff they did was insanely dangerous and I have to imagine there was some fakery involved.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:51 PM (8rNrN)

88
That said, making the Return of the Son of Monster Magnet Part 6 with Amy Schumer as Brian Dennehy for a cost of $150 million not including P&A is not as they say "sustainable."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

It can't happen here...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2017 08:51 PM (IqV8l)

89 Last movie I saw in the theater was Castaway.

SPOILER ALERT: he gets off the island.

Is that the one where Amanda Donahue runs around starkers? I ... uh ... enjoyed that movie. The character development, dialogue, and narrative arc were superb.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 08:51 PM (SRKgf)

90 One of the worst sci-fi films ever made? Spielberg's AI.
Posted by: 13times

----

Gee whiz! How can you hate a movie that gives you 5 endings? Every time you think it's run its course and you're going to get to leave the theater... "Oh. It's still going."

Posted by: RKae at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (i3rHh)

91 Though that would be deeply dumb.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:44 PM (8rNrN)

Two words: Crystal Frickin Skull

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (ZgkX8)

92 They should let Harrison Ford into it. He could do his own flying.
That could be entertaining.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 08:49 PM (qJhUV)

Flies at 25 mph. Wanders all over the sky. With the turn signal on.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (Fj+94)

93 Iron Eagle?

You mean the IAF F-16A Netz with the unlimited bombs option?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 08:49 PM (GBWQj)

Heh.

That was a fun movie.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (zc3Db)

94 AI suffered because the kept the film rolling after the perfect but sad ending was reached - when David's creator only sees him as a thing and not as the thinking caring being he is.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (GBWQj)

95 Now I know you're a guy, chicks don't say take a leak.

Posted by: CaliGirl
________

All this talk about taking a leak and now I have to piddle.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (zkGZ8)

96 89 Last movie I saw in the theater was Castaway.

SPOILER ALERT: he gets off the island.

Is that the one where Amanda Donahue runs around starkers? I ... uh ... enjoyed that movie. The character development, dialogue, and narrative arc were superb.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 08:51 PM (SRKgf)

You must be thinking of "Quest For Fire" with Rae Dawn Chong.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (mbhDw)

97 ... and I can't think of any kind of technological innovation that would make seeing a movie on the screen a big must any more.

3-D Virtual Reality orgy palaces and opium dens!!!

Posted by: ShainS at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (ZcAbN)

98 The Imperial Japanese weren't much better. You just can't make them misunderstood. We understand them all too well.

Two words: Letters from Iwo Jima. Great movie.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (CcuKY)

99 he is, but who else can get greenlit?

Also, he's the only one who seems to want to do these things. A lot of his stuff is in-house. He's developing this stuff, not just being hired on.

So like, I figure, he bought the Reacher rights because he wanted to do the Reacher movie.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (8rNrN)

I believe it is still true that several years ago Tom Cruise stopped taking a salary for movies and instead is a producer and takes a piece of gross points. He did an interview about it and said basically that he's made more than enough money for himself and his family and now if he does something he's got skin in the game. It also allows him to do Reacher and movies like that.

You mentioned about the Reacher movies I think that Cruise is a professional in the best sense of the term and I agree. He shows up, does his job and seems to remember that he is there to do something the audience will enjoy.

I hope that The Mummy is good because I would like to see the old monsters come back.

Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (dEQP3)

100 And the major problem is that the Hollywood is increasingly making films for the world and must make films as bland and generic as possible to appeal to the Frenchman as well as the ChinaMan and is leaving American audiences cold.

I really loved seeing big films at the theater.

I used to see all of the big films at the Ziegfeld which was single screen theater with comfy seats and an old time movie house atmosphere watching it with an appreciative and receptive audience.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (9A6UB)

101 Pro tip: any movie promoted as being in 3D sucks donkey balls. Because if it didn't, they wouldn't have to resort to some cheesy technical shit to appeal to potential viewers.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (SRKgf)

102 Maybe its because young men are afraid to ask a girl on a date lest being arrested

Posted by: vizzy at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (s5Khz)

103 >>>I wanted to like Lucy but unfortunately that was in the movie where I sat next to passive-aggressive sighing douchebag.

So, why don't people do to movies, one big reason is passive-aggressive sighing dickhead...

...

I have to admit I did that in Inception. I began doing it even more when it made the person I was with laugh. I was dong Ignatius J. Reilly, who couldn't believe the abortion he was seeing.

Really, that movie tried my patience when it would not just END ALREADY.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (8rNrN)

104 Hollywood is trapped between two forces that restrict subject matter and tone of every mass-market-intended production: Foreign market acceptance and US/Euro SJW acceptance. They can't make comedies like Blazing Saddles and Airplane! today. Offends too many SJW-supported victim groups. They can't have villains other than Caucasians in too many movies for risk of offending both the SJW and foreign crowds, but US Caucasians are tired of that game, one they know is being played.

A return to movies that we over age 45 or so remember is off the table, I believe, because the younger folks can't sit through slow-paced deep stories. That type of movie is rare these days, so how can they develop any appreciation for such material? IMHO.

Posted by: Gref at May 31, 2017 08:53 PM (AMIL/)

105 Did you know George Lucas was the first person to film a movie with an all-black cast?

Yep. No sh*t. Told me so himself. I'm sure it's on the youtubes.

Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 08:53 PM (fD1ST)

106 64 CGI spectacle is dead, I bet if you started making practical action films you could lure a ton of people back.

Think Mad Max.

I could do with a modern practically shot Towering Inferno or Earthquake in Sensurround.
Posted by: Kreplach at May 31, 2017 08:47 PM (9A6UB)

--In his Roger Moore tribute Steyn spoke the obvious truth that even though the Bond ski-parachute scene was done by a stunt double, it was still *real*, unlike CGI.

Posted by: logprof, with added couvfefe at May 31, 2017 08:53 PM (GsAUU)

107 Tom Cruise is actually a superb actor. probably one of the best actors of all time.

Is he a member of a crazy cult? Yes.

Is he ashamed of being a closeted homo? Yes.

Is he even more ashamed of being shorter than most of his leading ladies? Yes.

Does he have a creepy, weird personality in real life? Yes.

But all of that is irrelevant. I'm not watching a Tom Cruise movie to ponder the reality of the real Tom Cruise. I'm watching a Tom Cruise movie because I know that the lead character is going to utterly believable, emotionally intense, portrayed by an actor who is completely committed to his role to such a degree that you think he is the character on screen.

I forgive him his personal foibles, because his personal foibles have no impact at the skill with which he does his job.

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 08:53 PM (DQ4Fv)

108 Public Enemy said it best (for other reasons, but I digress), "Burn Hollywood Burn"

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at May 31, 2017 08:53 PM (RKQ/v)

109 Gee whiz! How can you hate a movie that gives you 5 endings? Every time you think it's run its course and you're going to get to leave the theater... "Oh. It's still going."

Posted by: RKae at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (i3rHh)

I had that same experience with "Age of Innocence". I finally just walked out.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 08:54 PM (zc3Db)

110 AI suffered because the kept the film rolling after the perfect but sad ending was reached - when David's creator only sees him as a thing and not as the thinking caring being he is.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (GBWQj)

You are so right. Praying to the Good Fairy forever as the power fades and the darkness falls.

Instead we got whatever the hell that ending was.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:54 PM (CcuKY)

111 Is Tucker a lurker? Is Ace Tucker?

Posted by: Jean at May 31, 2017 08:54 PM (9TU00)

112 103
Really, that movie tried my patience when it would not just END ALREADY.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (8rNrN)

So, I assume you were like 99% of normal, caring, feeling human beings who actually cheered when Sofia Coppola got shot in "Godfather part 3?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:54 PM (mbhDw)

113 And the major problem is that the Hollywood is increasingly making films for the world and must make films as bland and generic as possible to appeal to the Frenchman as well as the ChinaMan and is leaving American audiences cold.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (9A6UB)

This, in a nutshell, is the "Air America effect." What could Air America broadcast that would please eco-nuts, but not enrage blue collar union guys? Or that would appeal to abortion fans, and not enrage Hispanic mothers? Etc.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 08:55 PM (SRKgf)

114 Heh, I just realized we're gonna get *two* (at least) movie threads this week instead of one.

Posted by: logprof, with added couvfefe at May 31, 2017 08:55 PM (GsAUU)

115 80
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (DQ4Fv)

Now I know you're a guy, chicks don't say take a leak.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:49 PM (Ri/rl)

Ok, now I feel weird.

Posted by: Guy who really, really thought Zombie was a hot Asian chick at May 31, 2017 08:55 PM (2DT4P)

116 interesting analysis, right on as always.

however, you already have the solution well in hand, hardcore a-list, 3d porn. who wouldn't want to pay to have gwyneth paltrow get a face full of goop?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 08:55 PM (cPsPa)

117 Tom Cruise has made consistently entertaining movies for over thirty years & hasn't managed to piss off half the public. More power too him.

Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 08:55 PM (ANIFC)

118 A return to movies that we over age 45 or so remember is off the table, I believe, because the younger folks can't sit through slow-paced deep stories. That type of movie is rare these days, so how can they develop any appreciation for such material? IMHO.
Posted by: Gref at May 31, 2017 08:53 PM (AMIL/)

Hey, watch it. We are all 29 on this blog.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:55 PM (Ri/rl)

119 So, I assume you were like 99% of normal, caring, feeling human beings who actually cheered when Sofia Coppola got shot in "Godfather part 3?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:54 PM (mbhDw)

It's rare that I spend two hours muttering "shoot the fucking bitch already," but that movie was an exception.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 08:56 PM (SRKgf)

120 War movies? Well, you can't make a movie about our current wars, which are Bad, and even movies about World War Two have to be about something other than war.

Which is in part why the Star Trek franchise fucked up.

The audience already knows about the conflicts, and yet Simon Peg "Me" decided that another micro tale was a good idea. (further why didn't they follow up on Kirk's dad getting killed; it was the psychological basis but ignored the actual history .!~)(

Bad idea. We saw the Klingons, they hinted at the other races out there, and the blowing up of an entire civilization wasn't enough to even discuss intergalactic warfare?

Cowards. One and all.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2017 08:56 PM (udajc)

121 80 Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (DQ4Fv)

Now I know you're a guy, chicks don't say take a leak.
Posted by: CaliGirl

Have you seen my new username self-portrait photo? I scanned it from an old polaroid in the family album.

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 08:56 PM (DQ4Fv)

122 The last few movies I have seen have all had a negative comment about Republicans. Even the ones on HBO.

Mr. H isn't as aware of this stuff as I am and when I point it out he tells me to knock off the politics.

Only time he ticks me off.

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 08:56 PM (JACOL)

123
Posted by: Guy who really, really thought Zombie was a hot Asian chick at May 31, 2017 08:55 PM (2DT4P)

It really is a mystery, the way Zombie likes it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:56 PM (Ri/rl)

124 I have to admit I did that in Inception. I began doing it even more when it made the person I was with laugh. I was dong Ignatius J. Reilly, who couldn't believe the abortion he was seeing.

Really, that movie tried my patience when it would not just END ALREADY.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (8rNrN)

Inception was one of the best movies of the last 20 years. Easily. It was interesting and exceptionally well done from top to bottom.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 08:56 PM (zc3Db)

125 I have a 110 inch screen at home I use a digital projector for that i can game on or watch Netflix. I only felt like I was missing something because of 3D IMAX features, so I went to a 3D showing of The Force Awakens. It was the worst fucking god damned piece of shit that essentially raped the fucks piss out of my childhood memories, and I never went to the theaters again. My home built theater of watching quality shows of my own choosing for $10 a month at 1080p suits me just fine.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at May 31, 2017 08:56 PM (+dsLj)

126 Hockey game is 1-1, end of 1.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 08:56 PM (qJhUV)

127 113 And the major problem is that the Hollywood is increasingly making films for the world and must make films as bland and generic as possible to appeal to the Frenchman as well as the ChinaMan and is leaving American audiences cold.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (9A6UB)

This, in a nutshell, is the "Air America effect." What could Air America broadcast that would please eco-nuts, but not enrage blue collar union guys? Or that would appeal to abortion fans, and not enrage Hispanic mothers? Etc.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 08:55 PM (SRKgf)

Limited number of screens, and fierce competition for mass releases. And that leaves no room for smaller, indy pictures with actual stories and plots. So each film has bigger and bigger budgets with so much riding on them that directors are not permitted to take creative risks.

QED.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (mbhDw)

128 After having read Lawrence Wright's book "Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief", I have lost almost all respect for Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

Very hard for me to watch them in movies anymore ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (ZcAbN)

129 I'm watching a Tom Cruise movie because I know that the lead character is going to utterly believable, emotionally intense, portrayed by an actor who is completely committed to his role to such a degree that you think he is the character on screen.

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 08:53 PM
________

Two words: Collateral.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (zkGZ8)

130 Virtual Reality was the next big thing when?

Posted by: Javems at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (yOqwj)

131 The Five is getting tiresome. I miss the old white liberal, Juan is just a fcking token idiot, who thinks he is the smartest guy in town.

Posted by: Ralph at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (adlcU)

132 99 I hope that The Mummy is good because I would like to see the old monsters come back.
Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (

It looks like a lot of fun from the preview before guardians of the galaxy.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (hscyr)

133 80
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (DQ4Fv)

Now I know you're a guy, chicks don't say take a leak.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31

knew a girl who used the phrase "drain the lizard." she was from canadiastan. she was also a stripper.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (cPsPa)

134 Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 08:56 PM (DQ4Fv)

I've learned the hard way to never click on your links. I'm afraid.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (Ri/rl)

135 My decades-long near-perfect boycott* of Hollywood has finally begun to take effect. (buffs nails)

*I got dragged to see the middle movie of the Hobbit-thon. Smaug was cool.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (7MWCL)

136 105 Did you know George Lucas was the first person to film a movie with an all-black cast?

Yep. No sh*t. Told me so himself. I'm sure it's on the youtubes.
Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 08:53 PM (fD1ST)

Box office gold, obviously.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 08:58 PM (SRKgf)

137 Have you seen my new username self-portrait photo? I scanned it from an old polaroid in the family album.

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 08:56 PM (DQ4Fv)

Every girl on the internet is actually a fat bearded dude with a ponytail.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 08:58 PM (fKWf6)

138 They can't have villains other than Caucasians in too many movies for risk of offending both the SJW and foreign crowds, but US Caucasians are tired of that game

I would figure the guys throwing Communists into the ocean were heroes ...

Posted by: L-188 Loadmasters Association , ask about our free drink coupobs at May 31, 2017 08:58 PM (9TU00)

139 50
It's tough to do a WWII movie because it's tough to make it interesting. Allies good, axis bad. What can you do with that? Hollywood loves to flip things and make you see the other side of the bad guys, but how are you going to do that with Nazis?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (R+30W)

I saw "Das Boot" in the theater when it first came out, and it was riveting. You couldn't help but root for the poor guys in the boot. I mean, they weren't sending Jews to the camps themselves, but they didn't have a problem with it, if they ever thought about it.

You could make a decent WWI movie showing the lives of the soldiers in the trenches, without taking sides or making Profound Statements About the Futility of War.

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 08:58 PM (sdi6R)

140 131 The Five is getting tiresome. I miss the old white liberal, Juan is just a fcking token idiot, who thinks he is the smartest guy in town.
Posted by: Ralph at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (adlcU)

"And tonight on the Dunning-Kruger Hour, we take a look at . . . ourselves!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:59 PM (mbhDw)

141 return to movies that we over age 45 or so remember is off the table, I believe, because the younger folks can't sit through slow-paced deep stories. That type of movie is rare these days, so how can they develop any appreciation for such material? IMHO.
Posted by: Gref at May 31, 2017 08:53 PM (AMIL/)

well everyone likes that talkies better.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 08:59 PM (cPsPa)

142
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (cPsPa)

Okay, I'll rephrase, my friends and I don't say take a leak.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:59 PM (Ri/rl)

143 re:I forgive him his personal foibles, because his personal foibles have no impact at the skill with which he does his job.

Spot on, Zombie.

I also give him a ton of leeway since he makes interesting movies and has not, as yet, publicly insulted his audience members like me for being a conservative.

I can't say that about too many in Hollywood.

Posted by: squeakywheel at May 31, 2017 08:59 PM (ntmD3)

144 Ok, now I feel weird.
Posted by: Guy who really, really thought Zombie was a hot Asian chick

As long as you aren't suffering from Cherry Blossom Disease, you're still good to go. I mean, you won't move any further up the Kinsey scale if it was accidental.

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (DQ4Fv)

145 128 After having read Lawrence Wright's book "Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief", I have lost almost all respect for Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

Very hard for me to watch them in movies anymore ...
Posted by: ShainS at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (ZcAbN)

--I learned recently that the first choice for Pulp Fiction was not John Travolta, but James Gandolfini.

What a different movie that would have been.

Posted by: logprof, with added couvfefe at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (GsAUU)

146 Jaws. Greatest movie ever.

Posted by: Mike at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (c056A)

147 136 105 Did you know George Lucas was the first person to film a movie with an all-black cast?

Yep. No sh*t. Told me so himself. I'm sure it's on the youtubes.
Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 08:53 PM (fD1ST)

Box office gold, obviously.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 08:58 PM (SRKgf)

Wait, he was the creative genius behind the Warner Bros. cartoon "Coal Black?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (mbhDw)

148 135 My decades-long near-perfect boycott* of Hollywood has finally begun to take effect. (buffs nails)

*I got dragged to see the middle movie of the Hobbit-thon. Smaug was cool.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (7MWCL)

One of my favorite "Married with Children" episodes was when Al was dragged to a showing of "The Bridges of Madison County," and while standing in line one guy yells, "No bloody way!" and jumps into the street, getting run over.

Al, disgusted, says "That's it. Take the easy way out."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (SRKgf)

149 knew a girl who used the phrase "drain the lizard." she was from canadiastan. she was also a stripper.

It's a trap!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (6FqZa)

150 42 Isn't Tom Cruise a little old for doing Tom Cruise movies?

Yeah, Top Gun II. How they gonna do that?
Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 08:43 PM (qJhUV)
-----

My wife and like cruise.

The thing I admire about him is that he tries to do as many of his stunts that he can.

When I learned that in the one Mission Impossible stunt, when he was hanging onto the cargo plane door from the outside and it wasn't CGI....I said to myself "that dude has some large huevos".

Posted by: WisRich at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (OAlmw)

151 105 Did you know George Lucas was the first person to film a movie with an all-black cast?

---

BTW, in case anyone is wondering, it was Red Tails. 2012, and no one had made a movie with black lead characters until that time.

Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (fD1ST)

152 130 Virtual Reality was the next big thing when?

Posted by: Javems at May 31, 2017 08:57 PM (yOqwj)

==================

About the same time that Nuclear Fusion was ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (ZcAbN)

153 It's tough to do a WWII movie because it's tough to make it interesting. Allies good, axis bad. What can you do with that? Hollywood loves to flip things and make you see the other side of the bad guys, but how are you going to do that with Nazis? The Imperial Japanese weren't much better. You just can't make them misunderstood. We understand them all too well.

"Valkyrie" kind of did that and it was awesome. Thought it was a suspense/espionage movie, that just happened to take place during WWII.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:48 PM

Agreed. To break out of potboiler A-B-C movies, you have to do something that is different, with a story you haven't seen before. Movies done with axis characters as the focus are possible, with the right story, but it has to be well done. There's a a ton of interesting stories to be told, that don't glorify anybody in WW2, or end up as "anti-war" flicks. Just fascinating WW2 stories... even about the germans, italians or japanese. Valkyrie was fantastic.

Posted by: otho at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (lmIoG)

154 Did you know George Lucas was the first person to film a movie with an all-black cast?

Yep. No sh*t. Told me so himself. I'm sure it's on the youtubes.

Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 08:53 PM (fD1ST)

Cabin in the Sky: Really?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (auHtY)

155 105 Did you know George Lucas was the first person to film a movie with an all-black cast?

Is that really true? I'm not up on prison documentaries, but ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:01 PM (SRKgf)

156 PS I don't know that, I'm just speculating. I just think some of the high-speed stuff they did was insanely dangerous and I have to imagine there was some fakery involved.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 08:51 PM (8rNrN)

Tom Cruise does as many of his own stunts as he can and even some that the insurance is all OH FUCK NO.

That bit in Mi:4 where he's climbing the super tall building? Yeah, that was him climbing about 20 or so stories up. Brad Bird said he almost had a heart attack watching it.

Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 09:01 PM (dEQP3)

157 Think will watch the original The Mummy tonight.

"He decided to take a little walk.... ha ha ha ha hahahahahaha"

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 09:01 PM (GBWQj)

158 I've learned the hard way to never click on your links. I'm afraid.
Posted by: CaliGirl

I SWEAR it is safe fir work and non-crazy.

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 09:01 PM (DQ4Fv)

159 "Take 'em along for ballast, Chief."

Posted by: Mike at May 31, 2017 09:01 PM (c056A)

160 I've made the same prediction as Spielberg. It's a Hollywood-cycle, and it works pretty much the same a real-estate (or any other sort of bubble).

"Wow, did you see [movie about X] made [a gazillion] dollars?"
"We gotta make ten [movies about X]! Then we'll have [10 gazillion] dollars!"

And the industry does this for as long as it works and just a little bit longer. Then they take a bath, and someone comes and makes a [movie about Y], and the cycle repeats.

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 09:01 PM (CcUfv)

161 NBCSN: totally in the tank for the Pens.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:01 PM (qzt3j)

162 Jaws. Greatest movie ever.
Posted by: Mike at May

lots better.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:01 PM (cPsPa)

163 I haven't been to a movie in 10 years. Maybe longer, I can't remember what was the last movie I went out to see.

Posted by: dantesed at May 31, 2017 09:01 PM (88xKn)

164 154
Cabin in the Sky: Really?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (auHtY)

" . . . when he rubbed them together,
they played 'Stormy Weather,'
and lighting shot out of his ass.

Sorry, Muldoon.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 09:02 PM (mbhDw)

165 Every girl on the internet is actually a fat bearded dude with a ponytail.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

Wait -- you mean this is the real me?:

http://www.zombietime.com/zombie17.jpg

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 09:03 PM (DQ4Fv)

166 It's a trap!
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May

heh

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:03 PM (cPsPa)

167 Movies suck. Most TV sucks. We watch AMC originals (truly great shows like, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Hell on Wheels, etc.), some Netflix (loved Ripper Street), Amazon specials, and BBC. If I could afford it, we might watch some HBO and Showtime.

Posted by: Outspoken Red at May 31, 2017 09:03 PM (UN8m+)

168 Start nic change time!

*Hammerpants all over*

Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 09:03 PM (dEQP3)

169 161 NBCSN: totally in the tank for the Pens.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:01 PM (qzt3j)

--Peter MacGuire.

Posted by: logprof, with added couvfefe at May 31, 2017 09:04 PM (GsAUU)

170 Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (DQ4Fv)

Now I know you're a guy, chicks don't say take a leak.

Posted by: CaliGirl

Zombie is a master of misdirection. And only chicks dislike smelling farts. I still think she's a chick.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 31, 2017 09:04 PM (vRcUp)

171 --I learned recently that the first choice for Pulp Fiction was not John Travolta, but James Gandolfini.

What a different movie that would have been.

Posted by: logprof, with added couvfefe at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (GsAUU)

==================

Huh, hadn't heard that. Interesting.

That certainly revived Travolta's career.

Posted by: ShainS at May 31, 2017 09:04 PM (ZcAbN)

172
10 years. Try about 25 with me.

The last time I went to a theater was some time in the '90s, and likely the early 90s.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 09:05 PM (8O3HH)

173 If they'd pushed Guardians 2 back to Memorial Day weekend they probably would have done fine. And that was a fringe-as-hell IP they developed, in a way that was a fresh take on a genre. So they're kinda painted into a corner sure, but that doesn't mean they don't have a few tricks left.

I'm waiting for TV to crawl back out of the seriaization fad they've been stuck in since Lost, right now you could even call moviegoing a sort of counterprogramming to the "I must binge watch 30 hours of this drama on Netflix" madness.

Posted by: Cjw at May 31, 2017 09:05 PM (Vtlqb)

174 Did you know George Lucas was the first person to film a movie with an all-black cast?

Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating

really? was he going to something formal? which arm was it on?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:05 PM (cPsPa)

175 158 I've learned the hard way to never click on your links. I'm afraid.
Posted by: CaliGirl

I SWEAR it is safe fir work and non-crazy.
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 09:01 PM (DQ4Fv)

What a pretty girl. I love the boy toy themed belt. And the hair.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 09:05 PM (Ri/rl)

176 165
Wait -- you mean this is the real me?:

http://www.zombietime.com/zombie17.jpg
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 09:03 PM (DQ4Fv)

I will continue to believe that your current nick picture is you. Grr.

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 09:05 PM (sdi6R)

177 I like Travolta in Swordfish and that angel movie. Michael?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 09:05 PM (CcuKY)

178 With all that sand in there AlextheChick, Ozymandias is not far from the tip of my tongue.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 09:06 PM (GBWQj)

179 knew a girl who used the phrase "drain the lizard." she was from canadiastan. she was also a stripper.

Let me guess... she was chill, really chill. Like, not even a two crazy...

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 09:06 PM (fKWf6)

180 "Hollywood Blues: Worst Memorial Day for Box Office"

I blame Climate Change!

Posted by: Al Gore at May 31, 2017 09:06 PM (Wb2La)

181 What's CGI and GAF mean?

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:06 PM (JACOL)

182
With all that sand in there AlextheChick, Ozymandias is not far from the tip of my tongue.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 09:06 PM (GBWQj)

Wait... where's your tongue?!

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 09:06 PM (fKWf6)

183 A World War II movie that can't be made: an alt-history where the Manhattan Project fails and the US is forced to launch Operation Olympic.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:06 PM (qzt3j)

184 167 Movies suck. Most TV sucks. We watch AMC originals (truly great shows like, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Hell on Wheels, etc.), some Netflix (loved Ripper Street), Amazon specials, and BBC. If I could afford it, we might watch some HBO and Showtime.
Posted by: Outspoken Red at May 31, 2017 09:03 PM (UN8m+)

--Do you like Turn as well? I'm looking forward to the final season after BCS Season 3 is over.

Posted by: logprof, with added couvfefe at May 31, 2017 09:06 PM (GsAUU)

185 knew a girl who used the phrase "drain the lizard." she was from canadiastan. she was also a stripper

It might mean something different for her, and involve a Franklin

Posted by: L-188 Loadmasters Association , ask about our free drink coupobs at May 31, 2017 09:07 PM (9TU00)

186 I bet if you started making practical action films you could lure a ton of people back.

Think Mad Max.

I think youtube. How are you going to compete with guys in flying suits? Man, that shit's incredible.

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 09:07 PM (29QcC)

187 146 Jaws. Greatest movie ever.
Posted by: Mike at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (c056A)

I saw that in the theatre in Santa Barbara. My mother kept covering my eyes. I was terrified of swimming in the ocean after that movie.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (Ri/rl)

188 We've had a real issue this month. In the span of a week we saw (at the theater!) "12 Angry Men", "Witness for the Prosecution", "Guys and Dolls", "Casablanca" and "West Side Story".

Five of the best movies ever made. Two of the best musicals.

Everything since is basically a let down. Tuesday is "The Matrix" which I hope holds up.

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (CcUfv)

189 I hope that The Mummy is good because I would like to see the old monsters come back.

Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (dEQP3)

Remonstrations?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (7MWCL)

190 That Wonder Women for Womyn showing thing is at Alamo Drafthouse, so I have to hate them now or something, but Alamo has lots of imitators and innovators in the Destination Theater space. Alamo has lots of kinda cool stuff in their pre-roll (that's what I am calling the stuff that plays before the previews - not commercials for Coca-Cola, but kind of a little art piece, snippets of movies related to the movie you are watching, and old commercials and stuff) and they do events (like the aforementioned WW for W thing) and they have Nerd Nights and they have decent food and drinks.

Because as ace notes, a big screen and loud sound system is available at home for a lot of people. (I have a 70 inch 4k and a nice 5.1 sound system and 4 kids - so first run movie for us is 75 bucks just to get in the door.)

Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (jHrzU)

191 *pats Colorado Alex on the head*

Not much gets past you before going there...

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (GBWQj)

192 A World War II movie that can't be made: an alt-history where the Manhattan Project fails and the US is forced to launch Operation Olympic.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

The graphic novels, Storming Paradise go.there. and, that's something Chinese billionaires might fund

Posted by: L-188 Loadmasters Association , ask about our free drink coupobs at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (9TU00)

193 Back in a college, a gal used to say "going to Europe". It was based a joke, a silly chick joke that goes you are American before you go, and an American after, but what are when you're doing it? European.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (8O3HH)

194 Wait -- you mean this is the real me?:

http://www.zombietime.com/zombie17.jpg

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 09:03 PM (DQ4Fv)

This is my understanding of the ways of the interwebs.

https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/09/30

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (fKWf6)

195 181 What's CGI and GAF mean?
Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:06 PM (JACOL)

You're not from around here, are ya, boy?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (SRKgf)

196 Let me guess... she was chill, really chill. Like, not even a two crazy...
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May

well, you would have thought so. never raised her voice, always smiling and normal. then after having dated our common friend ka-boom! blew all over. she had a really long fuse and put up with lots. guess he should not have called her a stupid stripper.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:09 PM (cPsPa)

197 I hear that Universal is going back to their roots & will be doing a "shared universe" with their monster movies, beginning with "The Mummy."
Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 08:46 PM (ANIFC)

My understanding (reading between the lines) is that is what ultimately shelved bringing Larry Correia's Monster Hunter series to film. Universal wanted all the monies with their own properties.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 31, 2017 09:09 PM (17QyB)

198 I like Travolta in Swordfish and that angel movie. Michael?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 09:05 PM (CcuKY)

Swordfish, aside from its many really stupid parts, was a good, fun movie. But the producers were totally mixed up about who the real good guys were (not that whiny, annoying Hugh Jackman character, that's for sure).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 09:09 PM (zc3Db)

199 Hollywood has a double tap: Make live action cartoons, chick flix and movies for China. When in doubt - repeat.

Posted by: KentAllard at May 31, 2017 09:09 PM (TQw9b)

200

While it's just as easy to get a BJ mid-film at home as it is in the the theater, being at home has the advantage of greatly increasing the chances of you knowing who is blowing you...

Posted by: Ricky Retardo at May 31, 2017 09:09 PM (pchgp)

201

I think I'll wait for the porn parody of Wonder Woman.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 09:09 PM (8O3HH)

202 One shift from the good old days to now is back then the people making the movie or TV show wanted me to notice everything and take it all in, but now they want to overwhelm me with stuff, always leaving me (correctly) thinking that I missed something.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 09:09 PM (zkGZ8)

203 Saw a trailer for "Logan Lucky" yesterday. Daniel Craig, Channing Tatumn, Adam Driver. They attempt to rob the bank at/during NASCAR.

It looked funny.

Posted by: Ktgreat at May 31, 2017 09:09 PM (f8ilN)

204 Somebody actually did want Pirates 3, 4, and 5 made, and that somebody was Disney.

Even the suckiest Pirates movie has made a lot of money for Disney, thanks to China.

Why the Chinese love these movies so much is hard to say. Maybe life for the average Chinese person is so dull that watching Johnny Depp sashay around in his smeared eyeliner for a couple of hours counts as a good time. Who knows?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 31, 2017 09:10 PM (riF5p)

205 Dammit misspelled coupons in my sock

Posted by: Jean at May 31, 2017 09:10 PM (9TU00)

206 Not much gets past you before going there...

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (GBWQj)

Go there? I've got a season pass, my own parking space, and a first name relationship with some of the employees.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 09:10 PM (fKWf6)

207 I don't go to movies. Don't even watch DVDs or watch network programs, or HBO or Netflix or Hulu. Not to my taste, so it's no sacrifice to give them up.

But I love classical music. I used to have season tickets to the opera and symphony and also donated generously.

Now, no more. Not another ticket, not another dollar. I will never again set foot in a concert hall. Because the arts community has made clear the level of contempt they have for dull, bourgeois lumps like me who have paying jobs, go to work, pay my bills and try to live a normal life.

So, I can purchase and download (or even record online) a much greater variety of music than I can hear live. I might lose something, but it's a trade I'm willing to make. Sure, the musicians will get a pittance or nothing, but that's a feature, not a bug.

Want me back? Try having some respect for those who buy tickets.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 08:44 PM (IMNWu)

Major thumbs up for this post. I feel the same way about my local classical music station. Every time I feel tempted to support them so that classical music stays on the air, they go to an NPR "news" update that is just a collection of SJW teeth gnashings. Or an announcer has to explain to all us plebeians that the references to "alle Menschen" [all men] in Beethoven's 9th symphony is sexist or something. Or another announcer goes on a tangent about global warming when I just want to hear some Wagner. And then I decide that I don't give a $**t if the station goes belly up. I'll make do with CDs or whatever.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at May 31, 2017 09:10 PM (1WTGm)

208
When's the last time you saw a big movie advertised that wasn't about superheroes or reboots of tv shows from the 60s to 80s?

Duuuude, are you jonesing for a reboot of "Saved By The Bell Goes to Hawaii?"

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at May 31, 2017 09:10 PM (FlRtG)

209 I don't know if this has been mentioned yet. I think video games have had a big effect on Hollywood bottom line too. A lot of games have better stories than movies now. Plus they are far more interactive.

Posted by: Thursby at May 31, 2017 09:11 PM (1wofY)

210 201

I think I'll wait for the porn parody of Wonder Woman.
Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 09:09 PM (8O3HH)

I saw the trailer. It's called "No Wonder. He's a Woman."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 09:11 PM (mbhDw)

211 195 181 What's CGI and GAF mean?
Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:06 PM (JACOL)

You're not from around here, are ya, boy?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (SRKgf)

I'm an 'Ette.

What does CGI and GAF mean?

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:11 PM (JACOL)

212 "Isn't Tom Cruise a little old for doing Tom Cruise movies?"

Yes, probably. You got to give him credit for keeping himself in shape though.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2017 09:12 PM (jm1YL)

213 Tom Cruise had himself vacuum-packed at age 30 to preserve his freshness.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 09:12 PM (GBWQj)

214 Because as ace notes, a big screen and loud sound system is available at home for a lot of people. (I have a 70 inch 4k and a nice 5.1 sound system and 4 kids - so first run movie for us is 75 bucks just to get in the door.)

Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (jHrzU)

Ah, but where are you going to get the assholes talking loudly and checking their fucking phones ever 60 seconds? And how do you get 20 minutes of commercials before the goddamned movie? And where are find assholes willing to come to your house and shoot at the screen.

So you see, there IS something to be said for the movie theater experience.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:12 PM (SRKgf)

215 I really hate seeing Hollywood slit it's own throat. They are doing it so slowly is what I can't stand. Get on with it! Kick yourselves in the nuts too before you go!

Posted by: goon at May 31, 2017 09:12 PM (EaQ6/)

216 Allies good, axis bad. What can you do with that?

Das Boot worked for me.

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 09:12 PM (29QcC)

217 I have hearing loss. In the audible voice range. I can hear music just fine. I cannot hear the dialog in films over the soundtrack.

I watch what I can from either Redbox or Netflix with closed-captioning on.

Posted by: JAS at May 31, 2017 09:12 PM (EX4Wr)

218
161 NBCSN: totally in the tank for the Pens.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:01 PM (qzt3j)

--Peter MacGuire.

Posted by: logprof, with added couvfefe at May 31, 2017 09:04 PM (GsAUU)

Pierre. *Wags finger*
Last movies I saw in the theater were in the mid-2000s. They were a James Bond movie and a Tom Cruise movie (I went with others), along with Pride and Prejudice (the Knightley version) and Master and Commander (I went myself).

Posted by: Vendette at May 31, 2017 09:13 PM (a1pmd)

219 I think I'll wait for the porn parody of Wonder Woman.
Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May

gal gadot will probably be in it. the ghostbusters crew is doing the ghostbusters porn version using their real names.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:13 PM (cPsPa)

220 212 "Isn't Tom Cruise a little old for doing Tom Cruise movies?"

Yes, probably. You got to give him credit for keeping himself in shape though.
Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2017 09:12 PM (jm1YL)

Old and busted - Dancing around in his tidy whities.
New hotness - Examining scrotum in yellowed boxers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 09:13 PM (mbhDw)

221 >>>Did you know George Lucas was the first person to film a movie with an all-black cast?

Orson Welles did theatrical productions of Shakespeare with all black casts. And even played a black man in Othello. Quite the Shaun King, that one.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 31, 2017 09:13 PM (vRcUp)

222 We went to see the new Pirates movie. In 3D. The 3D part sucked. The movie was entertaining. Nothing deep, no underlying message, just campy entertainment. It was good.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 09:13 PM (Xr2/U)

223 Ah, but where are you going to get the assholes talking loudly and checking their fucking phones ever 60 seconds?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:12 PM (SRKgf)

That's what the kids are for!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (zc3Db)

224 Two words: Gratuitous Nudity.

Harley Quinn's ass in 3d put asses in seats.

Yeah, we have internet porn, but it just doesn't have the *quality* of Hollywood nudies.

Posted by: davidt at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (XoldI)

225 What does CGI and GAF mean?
Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:11 PM (JACOL)

CGI = computer-generated imagery

GAF = give a fuck

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (SRKgf)

226 I'm CGI: Congealed, Gaseous, Immense.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (bc2Lc)

227 Tom Cruise in Das Booty Business.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (GBWQj)

228 201

I think I'll wait for the porn parody of Wonder Woman.
Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 09:09 PM (8O3HH)

I saw the trailer. It's called "No Wonder. He's a Woman."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 09:11 PM (mbhDw)

J. J., you have been sitting on that gold mine for a while waiting to use it, amiright?

Made me laugh hard btw.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (2qHjF)

229 221 >>>Did you know George Lucas was the first person to film a movie with an all-black cast?

Orson Welles did theatrical productions of Shakespeare with all black casts. And even played a black man in Othello. Quite the Shaun King, that one.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 31, 2017 09:13 PM (vRcUp)

Godfrey Cambridge, "Watermelon Man."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (mbhDw)

230 knew a girl who used the phrase "drain the lizard." she was from canadiastan. she was also a stripper.
Posted by: yankeefifth

Oh yes. YOU would know such a girl.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (S6Pax)

231 I really hate seeing Hollywood slit it's own throat. They are doing it so slowly is what I can't stand. Get on with it! Kick yourselves in the nuts too before you go!

Posted by: goon
________

Well said! The decline of ...

... aw, crap - the holiday got me all messed up and now I missed "Modern Family."

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (zkGZ8)

232 Tom Cruise had himself vacuum-packed at age 30 to preserve his freshness.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 09:12 PM (GBWQj)

Formaldehyde enemas.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (VlqX8)

233 228
J. J., you have been sitting on that gold mine for a while waiting to use it, amiright?

Made me laugh hard btw.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (2qHjF)

Nope. Wrote that minutes ago, off the cuff.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (mbhDw)

234 (I have a 70 inch 4k and a nice 5.1 sound system and 4 kids

But isn't sitting thru half an hour of insipid ads because you want a good seat an experience that's you're missing?

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 09:15 PM (29QcC)

235 "Why the Chinese love these movies so much is hard to say."

Probably the same reason the Frenchies worship Jerry Lewis.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2017 09:15 PM (jm1YL)

236 What does CGI and GAF mean?
Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:11 PM (JACOL)

CGI = computer-generated imagery

GAF = give a fuck
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May

used in a sentence - I dont GAF if you DIAF CGI or IRL.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (cPsPa)

237 232 Tom Cruise had himself vacuum-packed at age 30 to preserve his freshness.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 09:12 PM (GBWQj)

Formaldehyde enemas.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (VlqX

I saw a pirated video made in secret of him, Dick Clark and Dinah Shore, walking in a circle and chanting:

"Hail, hail fire and snow,
call the Angel, we will go . . ."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (mbhDw)

238 I'm going to give a shout-out to the Amazon/Cinemax series "Strike Back."

Four seasons. Totally bingeable.

Great chemistry between the two male leads. Good casting in general. Hard 'R' but it's in service of the plot.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (uBKPR)

239 Thanks, Jay. When I googled those acronyms, I got the DSM-V version.

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (JACOL)

240 Godfrey Cambridge, "Watermelon Man."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 09:14 PM (mbhDw)

Denzel Washington, "Carbon Copy"

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (zc3Db)

241
GAF, as in Viewmaster?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (mbhDw)

242 The local drive-in has been playing the same movie for years: Swap Meet.

Posted by: George Lucas at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (bc2Lc)

243 Tom Cruise had himself vacuum-packed at age 30 to preserve his freshness.

I'm convinced that Nicole Kidman bathes in the blood of virgins.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (CcuKY)

244 Oh yes. YOU would know such a girl.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May

well, it is better than if I had been that girl.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (cPsPa)

245 Even the French hated Jerry Lewis in "The Day the Clown Cried."

Posted by: JAS at May 31, 2017 09:17 PM (EX4Wr)

246 Sheesh. Wow. The last movie I paid full-pop to see in the Big Box was "300" ... and that only to vote-with-the-wallet for something that was (in the milder term of a kinder, gentler era, NPC).

Since then, zip.

I quit supporting Hollywood a long time ago; just like I started hoarding silver and food and ammo back in the Reagan administration, if not before.
Not like any of what is happening now is new or anything; just bigger. Surprisingly so.
I (sorta) expected (hoped?) to retire in peace (so to speak ...) Don't get me started on what I thought and said when Personnel explained FICA to me back i9n '72 .... Oh well ....
Maybe it was all the Soviet history I read (Know Your Enemy). Or history in general.

Repeated from Previous Thread:
"It only takes one side to start a war."
"The aggressor sets the Rules of Engagement."

*hits poat so he can pour a nother shot*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at May 31, 2017 09:17 PM (yV8pG)

247 I think I'll wait for the porn parody of Wonder Woman.
Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May

I watched a Youtube Entertainment Tonight (don't be hatin') segment on the Sopranos, which mentioned the porn parody, "The Sopornos." I LOLed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:17 PM (SRKgf)

248
used in a sentence - I dont GAF if you DIAF CGI or IRL.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (cPsPa)

So what does DIAF and IRL mean?

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:17 PM (JACOL)

249 If Tom Cruise still looks good in 5 years, I'm joining Scientology.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:17 PM (8rNrN)

250 181 What's CGI and GAF mean?

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:06 PM (JACOL)

GAF made the View Master.

Posted by: X-Ray at May 31, 2017 09:17 PM (Wb2La)

251 What does CGI and GAF mean?

Posted by: ALH

Computer Generated Imagery and Give A Fuck.

Now what does IP mean in the Baywatch sentence?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 31, 2017 09:17 PM (vRcUp)

252 That's funny, zombie: I realized the exact opposite.

I go to movies BECAUSE there is none of the "convenience" you describe.

Actually, forget the scare quotes. It IS convenient. TOO convenient. If I'm at home, I'm not watching a movie, I'm doing 16 other things. (Whether I want to or not.)

Every film is better on the big screen, in a room designed for the purpose, and with a like-minded audience. Yeah, you get some losers from time-to-time, but not that often, in my experience. (And if you get them a lot, maybe re-examine the movies you're going to and the showtimes they're playing.)

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 09:17 PM (CcUfv)

253 Sheesh. Wow. The last movie I paid full-pop to see in the Big Box was "300" ... and that only to vote-with-the-wallet for something that was (in the milder term of a kinder, gentler era, NPC).

Since then, zip.

I quit supporting Hollywood a long time ago; just like I started hoarding silver and food and ammo back in the Reagan administration, if not before.
Not like any of what is happening now is new or anything; just bigger. Surprisingly so.
I (sorta) expected (hoped?) to retire in peace (so to speak ...) Don't get me started on what I thought and said when Personnel explained FICA to me back in '72 .... Oh well ....
Maybe it was all the Soviet history I read (Know Your Enemy). Or history in general.

Repeated from Previous Thread:
"It only takes one side to start a war."
"The aggressor sets the Rules of Engagement."

*hits poat so he can pour a nother shot*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at May 31, 2017 09:18 PM (yV8pG)

254 GAF, as in Viewmaster?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May

they did porn?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:18 PM (cPsPa)

255 DILLIGAF?

Posted by: JAS at May 31, 2017 09:18 PM (EX4Wr)

256 Speilberg is wrong.

I got 20,000 on-demand movies I can watch at home for free or maybe a few bucks.

Why would I drive somewhere and pay $18 to sit in a seat surrounded by often rude strangers to watch Transformers VII--Bulldozer Danger" that stars lefty actors and some bad guy who is a Republican that is preaching global warming.

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at May 31, 2017 09:18 PM (k/llo)

257 Tom Cruise and Keanu Reeves, from what I can tell, have the best work ethic in all of Hollywood. The way they train for their action roles is insane.

Posted by: Insomniac, forgotten but not gone at May 31, 2017 09:18 PM (0mRoj)

258 Tom Cruise looks good because they air-brush him.

Or something.

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:18 PM (JACOL)

259 Now what does IP mean in the Baywatch sentence?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
________

I read it as "intellectual property" and it made sense.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 09:19 PM (zkGZ8)

260 In all seriousness: reboot with Chris Pratt as Indie's son & run with it from there.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2017 08:48 PM (mvKQt)

That seems to be every woman's idea to make a movie better.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 31, 2017 09:19 PM (1JnAL)

261 Hey, speaking of DIAF, where did Peaches go?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:19 PM (cPsPa)

262 Yeah, I don't get the bagging on Swordfish by critics. It was indeed a pretty fun movie, even without Halle Berry's rack.

Posted by: logprof, with added covfefe at May 31, 2017 09:19 PM (GsAUU)

263 No matter when I pick a seat in a public venue, early or late, or where, or if the seats in my sightline are empty or filled with smallish people then invariably and without fail some tall, big melon-headed galoot will plop themselves in front of me.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 31, 2017 09:19 PM (JO9+V)

264 Now what does IP mean in the Baywatch sentence?

Intellectual Property. I admit, it sounds funny when you're talking about Baywatch.

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 09:19 PM (29QcC)

265 "Why the Chinese love these movies so much is hard to say."

Probably the same reason the Frenchies worship Jerry Lewis.
Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2017 09:15 PM (jm1YL)

I dunno. I read years ago (late 1990s) that the Chinese were totally obsessed with the slam dunk (the rest of basketball was just meh for them). They literally loved the Star Wars prequels more than the originals. My theory (borne out by all the ridiculous lack of physics in Chinese action films, is that Chinese society is so hide-bound and stratified (even before you get to Communist Party rule) that the Chinese are obsessed with anything that speaks to liberation from constraints. Even if it is a crappy action pic with two unmemorable characters flying around on green screen.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at May 31, 2017 09:19 PM (1WTGm)

266 do you guys know the GAF Viewmaster is a Civil War era technology?

Called "stereographs," they were, like the later Viewmaster, just photos taken from two slightly different angles which, when viewed through a viewer, would create a 3D impression.

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/stereo
/viewing3d.html

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:19 PM (8rNrN)

267 Probably the same reason the Frenchies worship Jerry Lewis.
Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2017 09:15 PM (jm1YL)

My conjecture re the Frogs: it plays to their image of the typical American.

Kinda like Pepe LePew plays to ours of the typical Frenchman.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:19 PM (SRKgf)

268 I went to see "The Deathly Hallows, Part II" in 3-D and used the crappy hearing aid headphones.

Total disaster. Never again.

Posted by: JAS at May 31, 2017 09:20 PM (EX4Wr)

269 DIAF = Die in a Fire

That's not very nice.

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:20 PM (JACOL)

270 DILLIGAF?

Posted by: JAS at May

yes?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:20 PM (cPsPa)

271 Dammit ace why'd you have to put this up when I'm doing work stuff. It would have allowed me a good premise to argue with you about Edge of Tomorow and your review of it.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 31, 2017 09:20 PM (z/Ubi)

272

Damn that Putin, he hacked me again, and brought up a search for Wonder Woman parodies. Some old stuff, low budget. Romi Rain (whoever that it is) did one.

And then there was Wonder Woman vs. Supergirl, which looked .... intriguing.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 09:21 PM (8O3HH)

273 Also, seriously, guys: Who shows up for the movies on time? I get there at the marquee time (or a little later) then pee/get my popcorn (preferably in that order). I'm usually walking in the theater just as the first logo is going up.

And if you go see the classics, they usually don't have ANY trailers.

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 09:21 PM (CcUfv)

274 DILLIGAF?

Wasn't that the hero of those Babylonian epics?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 09:21 PM (CcuKY)

275 James T. Kirk, Admiral to Buzzion, "Aren't you dead?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 09:21 PM (GBWQj)

276 Your posts are too long. You go on and on and on, rambling and repeating yourself, droning endlessly. We know that your secret desire -- well, not so secret, actually -- is to be in the movie business or, failing that, to be a movie critic. But in order to be a movie critic you need to learn to edit your own writing. You need to write less. In your case especially, less really would be more.

Posted by: Hobby Models at May 31, 2017 09:21 PM (6Jdxv)

277 There are some really good ideas about why THINGS HAVE GONE WRONG with movies, so I will toss one of my pet ideas out there.

Money. They want to be sure to make money. So they do the predictable thing, and surprisingly, some of these big flicks BOMB. You know, if you were an expert in Game Theory mathematics, you could probably get into at least one studio and point out where their thinking is leading them to bankruptcy.

And my other pet theory is that old stories are remade to change the meta-message in the movie. That movie you saw as a child and loved has now been re-made with this hot young starlet, but the meta-message now is something twisted.

I remember this lousy movie I watched years ago on cable called "The Deep End of the Ocean", with Treat Williams, Michelle Pfeiffer and Whoopi Goldberg. Really stupid movie overall, but Whoopi played a Lesbian Law man. And I think that was the "meta" message. Let's get the proles to accept a lesbian law man.
Whatever.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 09:22 PM (S6Pax)

278 We're watching Jurassic Park III.

Yes, I know what you're thinking.

Mr. H selected it. We were going to watch HGTV, but it's those ghey Property Brothers.

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:22 PM (JACOL)

279 Posted by: Hobby Models

Hard to believe that wasn't signed DocWeasel.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 09:22 PM (CcuKY)

280 >>>They literally loved the Star Wars prequels more than the originals. My theory (borne out by all the ridiculous lack of physics in Chinese action films, is that Chinese society is so hide-bound and stratified (even before you get to Communist Party rule) that the Chinese are obsessed with anything that speaks to liberation from constraints.

I thought I read the Star Wars movies actually played pretty poorly in China -- permitted, and seen, but they weren't big hits. There were minor movies over here that beat star wars soundly in China. Movies where you'd go WTF?

Not that I liked the Star Wars movies.

Just saying, I read that. I think.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:22 PM (8rNrN)

281 My wife and I go to Tuesday night movies which are $6.50 locally. That's not terrible.

We saw GOTG2 the other night and that was a fun and funny movie.

This year there was a big deal about movies that were big in China but not here. I noticed that there were some that were produced there so that explains a lot - the new XXX film (Vin Diesle not porn) and also I think the new Resident Evil film. (neither were that good nor memorable - and for RE, I am thinking that Paul W. S. Anderson was mad at Milla because she got the crap kicked out of her over and over).

Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2017 09:22 PM (jHrzU)

282 Every film is better on the big screen, in a room designed for the purpose, and with a like-minded audience. Yeah, you get some losers from time-to-time, but not that often, in my experience. (And if you get them a lot, maybe re-examine the movies you're going to and the showtimes they're playing.)

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 09:17 PM (CcUfv)

Better a ribeye on a paper plate than Brussels sprouts on fine china.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:23 PM (Fj+94)

283 264 Now what does IP mean in the Baywatch sentence?

Intellectual Property. I admit, it sounds funny when you're talking about Baywatch.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 09:19 PM (29QcC)

The sister of the female lead for "Baywatch Nights" used to work for me in the Navy.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 31, 2017 09:23 PM (17QyB)

284 276 Your posts are too long. You go on and on and on, rambling and repeating yourself, droning endlessly. We know that your secret desire -- well, not so secret, actually -- is to be in the movie business or, failing that, to be a movie critic. But in order to be a movie critic you need to learn to edit your own writing. You need to write less. In your case especially, less really would be more.
Posted by: Hobby Models at May 31, 2017 09:21 PM (6Jdxv)

You shut your whore mouth and let ace make with the wordy words.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 31, 2017 09:23 PM (z/Ubi)

285 264 Now what does IP mean in the Baywatch sentence?

Intellectual Property. I admit, it sounds funny when you're talking about Baywatch.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 09:19 PM (29QcC)

Now don't quote Hank Johnson or Maxine Waters without attribution. You'd be infringing on their intellectual property.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:23 PM (SRKgf)

286 192 A World War II movie that can't be made: an alt-history where the Manhattan Project fails and the US is forced to launch Operation Olympic.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

The graphic novels, Storming Paradise go.there. and, that's something Chinese billionaires might fund
Posted by: L-188 Loadmasters Association , ask about our free drink coupobs at May 31, 2017 09:08 PM (9TU00)

Good comic, written by conservative scribe Chuck Dixon.

Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 09:23 PM (ANIFC)

287 DIAF = Die in a Fire

That's not very nice.

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:20 PM (JACOL)

Sometimes, it's still too nice.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 09:23 PM (zc3Db)

288 So where is TheJamesMadison? He's missing out on a good thread that's right up his alley.

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 09:23 PM (sdi6R)

289 This is a fun thread to read.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 31, 2017 09:24 PM (hMwEB)

290 Toby's short review of Passengers: worth watching.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 09:24 PM (CcuKY)

291 DILLIGAF?
Posted by: JAS

That's just internet colloquial.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2017 09:24 PM (udajc)

292 Ace, read your most excellent post below about 10 minutes ago. Wanted to say that you get it and you may be missing one of your callings as a father's rights type family lawyer. Because it's that type of understanding and being a non-pussy that fathers desparately need from their family lawyers: 1. For the sake of their children's lives 2. For the sake for men and father's lives 3. To help save Western Civilization to reform the family law system 4. Plus, you can make great money fighting for a truly honorable and righteous cause.

Anyway, that blog entrance was awesome and puts into words what I'm going through as a younger white man in America today being pushed into dark areas of my mind that I don't want to go and have to fight daily to stop from going there.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:24 PM (2qHjF)

293 I like to go at the movies

Posted by: IP Freely at May 31, 2017 09:25 PM (JO9+V)

294 Movies are going the way of Cable TV and for the same reason.

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:25 PM (JACOL)

295 Really stupid movie overall, but Whoopi played a Lesbian Law man. And I think that was the "meta" message. Let's get the proles to accept a lesbian law man.
Whatever.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 09:22 PM (S6Pax)

For my part, I don't accept her as ... anything. Except, perhaps, as a measure of Ted Danson's shitty vision and/or taste.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:25 PM (SRKgf)

296 So what does DIAF and IRL mean?

Posted by: ALH

Die In A Fire, and In Real Life.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 31, 2017 09:25 PM (vRcUp)

297 Jack Reacher movie, Ace? The guy is 6'5" in the books and they picked Tom Cruise for the part? My dog is taller than Tom Cruise. And she's a dutch hound. MINIATURE dutch hound. His best movie was Top Gun, and that pissed me off because he had a SeaBee patch on his jacket.

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2017 09:26 PM (zLDYs)

298 Just gonna point out that Mr. Ace, sir, basically accused me of being racist when I made the same argument about overseas sales driving movie development on Twitter.

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 09:26 PM (CcUfv)

299 >>>They literally loved the Star Wars prequels more than the originals. My theory (borne out by all the ridiculous lack of physics in Chinese action films, is that Chinese society is so hide-bound and stratified (even before you get to Communist Party rule) that the Chinese are obsessed with anything that speaks to liberation from constraints.

I thought I read the Star Wars movies actually played pretty poorly in China -- permitted, and seen, but they weren't big hits. There were minor movies over here that beat star wars soundly in China. Movies where you'd go WTF?

Not that I liked the Star Wars movies.

Just saying, I read that. I think.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:22 PM (8rNrN)

Not the article I'm looking for, but it gives some idea about the theatrical release. A huge issue with China is that since intellectual property law is . . . well, nonexistent, most Western movies are seen in pirated editions. That's what I read at some point a few years ago (perhaps not from a reputable source, admittedly). The Chinese apparently preferred pirated Phantom Menance pod-racing to pirated Empire Strikes Back.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at May 31, 2017 09:26 PM (1WTGm)

300 192 A World War II movie that can't be made: an alt-history where the Manhattan Project fails and the US is forced to launch Operation Olympic.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

In which case, I almost certainly wouldn't be here now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:27 PM (SRKgf)

301 Toby's short review of Passengers: worth watching.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

hard sf fans should avoid unless heavily medicated.

but still; some non-franchise sf is better than none at all.

also, I couldn't help but thinking of a certain Pixar movie.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2017 09:27 PM (udajc)

302 The sister of the female lead for "Baywatch Nights" used to work for me in the Navy.

Never watched it, have no idea who it might be, but their intellectual property is such that I'm jealous...

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 09:27 PM (TqmC9)

303 Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 09:22 PM (S6Pax)

There is a scripting formula, with "story beats" plotted down to the minute that is now used for most movies, which is why they all seem the same, and a few (like the Nu-Trek movies) have some real WTF moments (like giving an academy rock-out a full Captaincy and a ship).

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 31, 2017 09:27 PM (17QyB)

304 well, it is better than if I had been that girl.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (cPsPa)

Are you positive she was a girl?

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 09:27 PM (Ri/rl)

305 As far as Tom Cruise movies go, the movie "Knight and Day" was hysterical. Really funny and well done.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 09:27 PM (zc3Db)

306 >>>very film is better on the big screen, in a room designed for the purpose, and with a like-minded audience. Yeah, you get some losers from time-to-time, but not that often, in my experience. (And if you get them a lot, maybe re-examine the movies you're going to and the showtimes they're playing.)

not every film -- in a comedy, you may miss a line, and Flashback Two Seconds is a wonderful feature.

A lot of films just aren't particularly cinematic. Comedies, most of the time. None of that good stuff like "light reflecting off wet nighttime streets" or other good camera stuff.

Because I used to be a cinephile in this sense (i want the movie-movie experience), defects in the focus or film would piss me off, and I got pissed off a lot (lots of problems with projection), and I tended to not enjoy it as much as I'd hoped.

Now theaters are made better and stadium seating promises that there's (almost) not a bad seat in the house, and maybe projection control has gotten better, but still, it's not comfortable. I don't like being trapped by a sea of humanity when I want to pee.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:27 PM (8rNrN)

307 Nolan's Batman trilogy was not filled with unnecessary CGI. Or am I wrong about this?

Plus, how in the fuck does Wonder Woman rank higher in Rotten Tomatoes than The Dark Knight? Or should this answer itself?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:28 PM (2qHjF)

308 Today is Clint Eastwood's birthday. He's 87.

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:28 PM (JACOL)

309 First Jack Reacher movie was better than the 2d.

Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2017 09:28 PM (jHrzU)

310 Yeah, here it is. George Lucas on a 2012 movie he made:

"they said "No, we don't know how to market a movie like this... it's because it's an all-black movie. There's no major white roles in it at all. It's one of the first all-black action pictures ever made."

http://947thewave.cbslocal.com/2012/01/11/
george-lucas-talks-about-red-tails-being-the-first-
all-black-action-film-on-the-daily-show/

Racists.

Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 09:28 PM (fD1ST)

311 In regards to Tom Cruise I do find he makes entertaining movies. I do like the Mission Impossible series. Yeah some of it is over the top but you look for that in those type of movies.
I am interested in how The Mummy turns out.

Is it true he is going to do Top Gun 2? That I think is a mistake IMHO

Posted by: Scuba Dude at May 31, 2017 09:28 PM (YLciO)

312 Plus, how in the fuck does Wonder Woman rank higher in Rotten Tomatoes than The Dark Knight? Or should this answer itself?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:28 PM (2qHjF)

Sex Sells.

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:29 PM (JACOL)

313 151 105 Did you know George Lucas was the first person to film a movie with an all-black cast?

---

BTW, in case anyone is wondering, it was Red Tails. 2012, and no one had made a movie with black lead characters until that time.
Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 09:00 PM (fD1ST)

Funny, I remember "The Color Purple" that Speilberg produced back in the mid 80's.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 31, 2017 09:29 PM (1JnAL)

314 Jack Reacher movie, Ace? The guy is 6'5" in the books and they picked Tom Cruise for the part? My dog is taller than Tom Cruise. And she's a dutch hound. MINIATURE dutch hound. His best movie was Top Gun, and that pissed me off because he had a SeaBee patch on his jacket.
Posted by: Eromero at May

thought the sea bee patch was a nod to buggery rum and the lash.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:29 PM (cPsPa)

315 ...and after checking IMDB, it must be Angie Harmon's sister. Oh, man. Big Angie Harmon fan.

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 09:29 PM (TqmC9)

316 Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 09:27 PM (TqmC9)

She (not the sister I knew) was also a Playboy covergirl and centerfold.

BTW, the younger sister was a real princess. Ended up kicker her off the ship, and losing her was like *gaining* 2 productive people.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 31, 2017 09:29 PM (17QyB)

317 Funny, I remember "The Color Purple" that Speilberg produced back in the mid 80's.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May

that was a stupid movie. who is going to believe in a purple shark.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:30 PM (cPsPa)

318 The novelties in film are now almost exclusively independent movies.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:30 PM (2qHjF)

319 Hollywood is fundamentally disconnected with the culture.

While binge-watching Grey's Anatomy, there is an episode. A funeral. The priest is reading Ecclesiastes. Izzy is laughing because it's "the lyrics of a rock and roll song."

To everything turn turn. there is a season, turn turn.

The unchurched Whoreywood assumes that the rest of us are.

Loved the line in "The Raiders of the Lost Ark."

"Didn't you go to Sunday School?"

Posted by: JAS at May 31, 2017 09:30 PM (EX4Wr)

320 Toby's short review of Passengers: worth watching.

Posted by: Grump928(C)

I would agree. It's not great but it does its job as a movie well enough. It could have been great ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 09:30 PM (zc3Db)

321 Wasn't that the hero of those Babylonian epics?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 09:21 PM (CcuKY)

Pretty sure that was a top five search term on redtube the other week.

You know what tv show needs to be rebooted as a series, not a movie? Silk Stalkings. I loved that show.

Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 09:30 PM (dEQP3)

322 >>>Jack Reacher movie, Ace? The guy is 6'5" in the books and they picked Tom Cruise for the part? My dog is taller than Tom Cruise.

I only read one of the books and so am not invested enough to care. Also, I asked a friend (Verum Serum) who read all of them "How is he such a superhero badass? Does he work out?"

And he said the books specifically say he doesn't work out much but is just genetically a superman so I was like "Oh, go f*** yourself, book."

So I don't really care if this Conan-like genetic superman is properly depicted on screen.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:30 PM (8rNrN)

323 In which case, I almost certainly wouldn't be here now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:27 PM (SRKgf)

Nonsense! I've been told by my betters that the Japanese were begging to surrender and that we nuked those poor, pacifist inhabitants of Hiroshima and Nagasaki because we were racists and wanted to scare that gentle old Uncle Joe.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:31 PM (Fj+94)

324 There is a scripting formula, with "story beats" plotted down to the minute that is now used for most movies,

Pro tip for The Horde: the best nude scene usually occurs around the 1:00 +- 5 minute mark.

Because I'm a giver.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 09:31 PM (SRKgf)

325 First Jack Reacher movie was better than the 2d.

Of course, it had Robert Duvall.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 09:31 PM (CcuKY)

326 312 Plus, how in the fuck does Wonder Woman rank higher in Rotten Tomatoes than The Dark Knight? Or should this answer itself?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:28 PM (2qHjF)

Sex Sells.
Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:29 PM (JACOL)

There is sex in Wonder Woman? Why?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:31 PM (2qHjF)

327 The old elites used to scoff at television. Called it low brow and they were right. Remember Newton Minow called it a vast wasteland.

There were some good things in the beginning. Lucy, for example, which still holds up fairly well and is important because her and her husband basically invented the sitcom and how it was shot.

Probably the old elites didn't care for it because it appealed to the masses instead of showing someone drinking wine and sniffing their farts. Also it wasn't pushing the poz.

Breaking Bad I thought was very, very good but even there you have what Ace refers to above as soap opera (even if it was soap opera for guys). I strongly suspect it did so well because it showed a middle aged White Guy outsmarting all of his enemies. He starts out as that sort of cucky doofus Dad type we've all seen mocked endlessly in commercials and television and movies and then he metamorphoses into a crime kingpin who doesn't hesitate to murder his enemies.

That role plays so against how they want to present white guys these days that it's astonishing it ever got on the air. You can say well Tom Cruise or other action movie type heroes, but that has changed. Most of the newer action movies I've seen in the last few years always promote diversity and usually have a team of diverse peeps working together to overcome obstacles. It's blatant propaganda to prop up the current system.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 31, 2017 09:31 PM (4ErVI)

328 Remember "Baywatch Nights?" Baywatch meets the X-Files - how could that not work?
/

Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 09:31 PM (ANIFC)

329 Hollywood could make billions off of war movies about Afghanistan and Iraq but its too fucking cowardly. Read any number of books about the wars and there are stories of valor and sacrifice that equal Omaha beach or Iwo Jima, but those are wars against unacceptable enemies

Posted by: UGAdawg at May 31, 2017 09:32 PM (HL3BI)

330 well, it is better than if I had been that girl.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (cPsPa)

Are you positive she was a girl?
Posted by: CaliGirl at May

as sure as I am you are.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:32 PM (cPsPa)

331 I wish they would just keep making King Kong movies and nothing else.

Posted by: goon at May 31, 2017 09:32 PM (EaQ6/)

332 I'm not seeing Wonder Woman. I am, however, seeing "Steve Trevor: Badass Seducer of Godesses."

I hear Wonder Woman has a cameo in that.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:32 PM (8rNrN)

333 "Kinda like Pepe LePew plays to ours of the typical Frenchman."

Guffaw!

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2017 09:33 PM (jm1YL)

334 Trailers and commercials. How movies are marketed matter, I think. I think sometimes the people selling the movie want to trick you to come in to make first week money because they think it won't have staying power.

The new Mummy movie is interesting, because it is theoretically a reboot so the commercials make it look like they are putting Cruise in to sub for Fraser. This seems like a silly idea.

But I saw a trailer for it when we saw GOTG2 and it was clear from that it was a Big Tom Cruise Movie and it only shares a name with the Brendan Fraser franchise.

The commercials don't give that impression at all.

Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2017 09:34 PM (jHrzU)

335 Jack Reacher movie, Ace? The guy is 6'5" in the books and they picked Tom Cruise for the part?
Posted by: Eromero

Once an author options a book, he no longer has any say in the matter.

So when your book series is optioned, maybe you demand to be a casting director as well. Let us know how well it works out.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2017 09:34 PM (udajc)

336 Bring back Gladiator movies!

Posted by: Captain Oveur at May 31, 2017 09:34 PM (JO9+V)

337 183 A World War II movie that can't be made: an alt-history where the Manhattan Project fails and the US is forced to launch Operation Olympic.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:06 PM (qzt3j)

That would be a hell of a movie. But yeah, it probably can't be made.

You'd need a huge budget and an enormous cast. It couldn't be done on the cheap with CGI.

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 09:34 PM (sdi6R)

338 I wish they would just keep making King Kong movies and nothing else.
Posted by: goon at May 31, 2017 09:32 PM (EaQ6/)

Silly, haven't you heard that King Kong movies promote racist ideas about miscegenation? I heard it from a professor is BS grievance studies so it must be true.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at May 31, 2017 09:34 PM (1WTGm)

339 And he said the books specifically say he doesn't work out much but is just genetically a superman so I was like "Oh, go f*** yourself, book."

So I don't really care if this Conan-like genetic superman is properly depicted on screen.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:30 PM (8rNrN)

Just let that hostility out.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 09:35 PM (zc3Db)

340 Funny, I remember "The Color Purple" that Speilberg produced back in the mid 80's.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 31, 2017 09:29 PM (1JnAL)
Funny, I remember Raisin in the Sun,1961

Posted by: CN at May 31, 2017 09:35 PM (2+tI4)

341 Clint Eastwood made American Sniper. That was really good.

We haven't seen 13 Hours yet, mainly because I'm afraid of how pissed off it will make me.

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:35 PM (JACOL)

342 I have zero clue about the mythos of Wonder Woman except in a Justice League movie I saw her fight a Woman who was a cheeta or a hologram of a cheeta.

Are cheeta women her enemies? Who are her enemies? Who is her Joker, Riddler, Bane, Scarecrow, ect.... ?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:35 PM (2qHjF)

343 Wonder Woman is receiving good reviews because:

1. The women need their Ghostbusters to finally succeed.

2. DC needs a hit -- if this movie tanks, the DC project is almost over, except for the Justice League (already shot) and maybe a Batman movie or two. But they already had batman.

I want DC to have a hit just to have some competition here. And because I don't like who owns Marvel, or the politics at the actual Marvel.

3. The other DC movies are so bad this one has a low bar to clear.

4. It might also be reasonably good, besides.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:35 PM (8rNrN)

344 Nah if Hollywood really did sell out to the PRC, they could do the Chinese version of the Amazons. Yes the Chinese had a floating island inhabited only by women. That only by sheer disaster and shipwreck could anyone from the Middle Kingdom even find the place. Unlike Diana's creation out of mud, in the Chinese version legs were opened to the wind and thus babies were born.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 09:35 PM (GBWQj)

345 329 Hollywood could make billions off of war movies about Afghanistan and Iraq but its too fucking cowardly. Read any number of books about the wars and there are stories of valor and sacrifice that equal Omaha beach or Iwo Jima, but those are wars against unacceptable enemies

Posted by: UGAdawg at May 31, 2017 09:32 PM (HL3BI)

You have to go back to True Lies to see Muslims as villains, I think. Maybe some low budget schlock still uses them as heavies. Dunno. When was a newer movie with Muslims terrorists? Wasn't there a film in the last decade about Muslim terrorists taking over a city? Bruce Willis as a general? I never saw it but if memory serves Willis quickly becomes the villain because martial law and he's white or something and that's what white guys always do because they love dicks and guns or something.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 31, 2017 09:36 PM (4ErVI)

346 13 hours was not that good of a movie.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:36 PM (cPsPa)

347 340 Funny, I remember "The Color Purple" that Speilberg produced back in the mid 80's.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 31, 2017 09:29 PM (1JnAL)
Funny, I remember Raisin in the Sun,1961
Posted by: CN at May 31, 2017 09:35 PM (2+tI4)

Porgy and Bess, 1959

Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 09:36 PM (ANIFC)

348 You know, if you were an expert in Game Theory mathematics, you could probably get into at least one studio and point out where their thinking is leading them to bankruptcy.

I tried, man.

Posted by: Russell Crowe at May 31, 2017 09:37 PM (vRcUp)

349 >>>Are cheeta women her enemies?

I can only think of Cheetah, who was cursed by some African god (I think) into being some kind of were-cheetah, and Ares, the Greek god of War, who she fights a lot.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:37 PM (8rNrN)

350 Good actors that hang around long enough end up doing a bunch of crap and collecting the paychecks...

DeNiro
lord knows Pacino
Morgan Freeman
even Gene Hackman & Robt Duvall

not that I blame them for cashing in, mind you

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 31, 2017 09:37 PM (oAY8z)

351 You have to go back to True Lies to see Muslims as
villains, I think. Maybe some low budget schlock still uses them as
heavies. Dunno. When was a newer movie with Muslims terrorists? Wasn't
there a film in the last decade about Muslim terrorists taking over a
city? Bruce Willis as a general? I never saw it but if memory serves
Willis quickly becomes the villain because martial law and he's white or
something and that's what white guys always do because they love dicks
and guns or something.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 31, 2017 09:36 PM (4ErVI)

London Has Fallen.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 31, 2017 09:37 PM (JO9+V)

352 2. DC needs a hit -- if this movie tanks, the DC project is almost over, except for the Justice League (already shot) and maybe a Batman movie or two. But they already had batman.

I want DC to have a hit just to have some competition here. And because I don't like who owns Marvel, or the politics at the actual Marvel.

Posted by: ace

RED , and RED 2 were successful.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2017 09:37 PM (udajc)

353 I remember this lousy movie I watched years ago on cable called "The Deep End of the Ocean", with Treat Williams, Michelle Pfeiffer and Whoopi Goldberg. Really stupid movie overall, but Whoopi played a Lesbian Law man. And I think that was the "meta" message. Let's get the proles to accept a lesbian law man.
Whatever.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 09:22 PM (S6Pax)

I always point to "Oceans 11".

The original with the Rat Pack was kind of a fun little crime movie that the remake tried to capture.

The problem? The ending. In the original, only a portion of the money they stole ended up being kept, and that was for the widow and son of one of their crew. None of them got a penny. In the remake, of course they got the millions because George Clooney was a bigger star than Frank Sinatra or something.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 31, 2017 09:37 PM (1JnAL)

354 Funny, I remember "The Color Purple" that Speilberg produced back in the mid 80's.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 31, 2017 09:29 PM (1JnAL)
Funny, I remember Raisin in the Sun,1961
Posted by: CN at May 31, 2017 09:35 PM (2+tI4)

Porgy and Bess, 1959

Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 09:36 PM (ANIFC)

Carmen Jones, 1943

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 09:37 PM (zc3Db)

355 I can only think of Cheetah, who was cursed by some African god (I think) into being some kind of were-cheetah, and Ares, the Greek god of War, who she fights a lot.
Posted by: ace at May

but everyone is always throwing blood on here because to were fur is murder. tough curse.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:38 PM (cPsPa)

356 I think maybe there's some evil Amazon woman who's her rival and opposite because every hero has to have his or her Evil Opposite. But I don't know. I think I've seen a scheming Amazon in the JLA cartoons.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:38 PM (8rNrN)

357 Lyle Waggoner is still alive. 82.

He was almost Batman, losing to Adam West. He was a player on Carol Burnette, as well. There was one skit where Tim Conway made him lose it. Conway got a kick out of going off script and trying to crack the others up, Harvey Korman most notably.

Anyway, Wagonner was playing a captured American and Tim Conway was a Nazi interrogator. Ve have vays of making you talk. His was a little Hilter hand puppet, who used a pencil to beat Wagonner.

Wagonner lost it when Conway started singing "I've been working on the railroad" in the German accent.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 09:38 PM (8O3HH)

358 "Is it true he is going to do Top Gun 2? That I think is a mistake IMHO"

It 20 years too late.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2017 09:38 PM (jm1YL)

359 Just let that hostility out.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

He's on his way to the Dark Side.

Lay low. Don't antagonize him.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 09:38 PM (S6Pax)

360 Thunder Thunder Thunder Thundercats Ho!!!!!!!

Posted by: Lion-O at May 31, 2017 09:38 PM (CcuKY)

361 Seriously, did boys and men buy and consume Wonder Woman comics as stand alones? My gut feeling tells me that DC had to make her a member of Judtice League to keep her relevant.

I could be wrong.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:38 PM (2qHjF)

362 I liked Passengers but didn't love it. I put it around the same level as The Great Wall. Yeah... character arc, and some strong supporting cast, and I guess I cared what happened. Do I care enough to spend $15 on a date with Mrs Texty and her kid Fidget? Um...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 09:38 PM (6FqZa)

363 yankeefilth @ 314 -- nod to buggery rum and the lash?
Seabees are about getting shit DONE. And comshawing army engineers' materials in the dark of night, building the EM clubs, hospitals, and delivering on commitments. But of course, there's the drinking and taking care of lonely women and suchlike. All night.

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2017 09:39 PM (zLDYs)

364 13 hours was not that good of a movie.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:36 PM (cPsPa)

Any man that says 13 Hours is not that good of a movie spends the night in the box.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Floorwalker at May 31, 2017 09:39 PM (JO9+V)

365 As far as Tom Cruise movies go, the movie "Knight and Day" was hysterical. Really funny and well done.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 09:27 PM (zc3Db)

Safe and secure.
The fight sequence on the airplane - awesome.

Posted by: Joanne at May 31, 2017 09:39 PM (A07hL)

366 >>>RED , and RED 2 were successful.

you know what I mean. They're not the DCEU.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:39 PM (8rNrN)

367 some evil Amazon woman

======

Jessica Bezos?

Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 09:39 PM (ANIFC)

368 The world yearns for a reboot of "The Sound of Music" except grittier.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 09:39 PM (zkGZ8)

369 Porgy and Bess, 1959

Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 09:36 PM (ANIFC)
And who could forget, A Natural Born Gambler: 1916

Posted by: CN at May 31, 2017 09:39 PM (2+tI4)

370 My point on trailers and commercials was brought up by the mention of Passengers. Because that was a movie that I did not expect from its commercials and trailers. It was kind of sold as big Pratt space action movie with a scary subplot.

Which it wasn't.

What it was was a cute and serviceable movie that tried to rely on the star power to get butts in seats and tricked you with the trailer. I think a better actress than Jennifer Lawrence should have played the female lead, it might have been a better movie.

Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2017 09:39 PM (jHrzU)

371 350 Good actors that hang around long enough end up doing a bunch of crap and collecting the paychecks...

DeNiro
lord knows Pacino
Morgan Freeman
even Gene Hackman & Robt Duvall

not that I blame them for cashing in, mind you

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 31, 2017 09:37 PM (oAY8z)

The sad case of Joseph Cotten. The guy was in The Third Man and Citizen Kane. Flash forward to the 1970s and he's shooting a Jonestown exploitation flick and co-starring in disaster movies. Really sad to see and you could tell he was pretty sick.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 31, 2017 09:39 PM (4ErVI)

372 Acronyms commonly used in the movie business:

ABQT -- Anyone But Quentin Tarantino.
Example: "I need this script rewritten -- ABQT!"

YASCZRWJBDHMULM -- Yes, Adam Sandler is a Conservative Zionist Ring-Wing Jew -- But Damn He Makes Us a Lot of Money.
Example: "I hear they greenlighted Happy Gilmore III -- YASCZRWJBDHMULM."

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 09:39 PM (DQ4Fv)

373 Funny, I remember "The Color Purple" that Speilberg produced back in the mid 80's.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 31, 2017 09:29 PM (1JnAL)
Funny, I remember Raisin in the Sun,1961
Posted by: CN at May 31, 2017 09:35 PM (2+tI4)

Porgy and Bess, 1959

Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 09:36 PM (ANIFC)

Carmen Jones, 1943

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 09:37 PM (zc3Db)

---

Black Dynamite, 2009. Which you need to see if you haven't.

Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 09:40 PM (fD1ST)

374 Any man that says 13 Hours is not that good of a movie spends the night in the box.
Posted by: Count de Monet, Floorwalker at May

great story, ok movie.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:40 PM (cPsPa)

375 I'm amazed London Has Fallen got made. Yeah, they weren't identified as Muslims directly. But my god, they winked really hard in that direction

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 09:40 PM (6FqZa)

376 Ring-Wing Jew = Right-Wing Jew

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 09:40 PM (DQ4Fv)

377 I think Circe is Wonder Woman's mai rival.

Posted by: Thursby at May 31, 2017 09:40 PM (1wofY)

378 That would be a hell of a movie. But yeah, it probably can't be made.

You'd need a huge budget and an enormous cast. It couldn't be done on the cheap with CGI.

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 09:34 PM (sdi6R)

I was thinking about the PC view of the end of the Pacific war. But I agree with you as well.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:41 PM (VlqX8)

379 His prediction prompted Spielberg to recall that his 1982 film E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial stayed in theaters for a year and four months.

Yeah, well, no shit, Sherlock, that was a completely different time. ALL movies ran a lot longer in theaters then than they did ten years later.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2017 09:41 PM (oVJmc)

380 Back to the Future I had Libyan terrorists. They wanted the uranium Doc stole to power the Flux Capacitor.

They almost killed him, except Doc read the letter from Marty and so he wore a bullet proof vest.

Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 09:41 PM (JACOL)

381 "Mrs Rabbit!!!"

"That's Bezos now," Jessica purred and watched in satisfaction as the newshound became a puppy dog.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 09:41 PM (GBWQj)

382
London Has Fallen.
Posted by: Count de Monet

Yes, but he's an Arms Dealer, kind of an Evil Capitalist.

He's not a True Believer.

so there.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 09:41 PM (S6Pax)

383 Baywatch could have been a great PG13 movie. It would have forced the writers to be clever, instead of thinking all the audience wants are prosthetic dicks being waggled around because prosthetic dicks are hilarious or something.

The R rated comedy needs to go away. It allows for laziness in comedy writing.

Posted by: PBJ4848 at May 31, 2017 09:41 PM (PsdJu)

384 >>> My gut feeling tells me that DC had to make her a member of Judtice League to keep her relevant.

she's almost always been a core member. Though, seriously, in the first incarnation (the Justice SOCIETY of America), they made her their... secretary.

Seriously. That happened.

But Wonder Woman has always been big in the JLA and is a good character. DC calls her part of the "Trinity" of Bats, Supes, and WW.

She's well depicted on the Justice League cartoon. Also, supremely hot. That cartoon was where I "Got it" that she was supposed to be a demigod.

Because, Hot.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:41 PM (8rNrN)

385 The Epic of DILLIGAF, better than Beowulf.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 31, 2017 09:41 PM (bJdWR)

386 Seriously, did boys and men buy and consume Wonder Woman comics as stand alones?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe
________

I've been told that what a healthy male does with his Wonder Woman comics is natural.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 09:41 PM (zkGZ8)

387 Hollywood is a puny god.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2017 09:42 PM (ZO497)

388 as sure as I am you are.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:32 PM (cPsPa)

So, totally could have been a dude.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 09:42 PM (Ri/rl)

389 368 The world yearns for a reboot of "The Sound of Music" except grittier.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 09:39 PM (zkGZ

Been done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwc1Kbv9dVY

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 09:42 PM (sdi6R)

390 I would like to see the old monsters come back.

Hello.

Posted by: some Senator from Searchlight at May 31, 2017 09:42 PM (wpC7C)

391 >>>I think Circe is Wonder Woman's mai rival.

oh right, her too.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:42 PM (8rNrN)

392 Example: "I hear they greenlighted Happy Gilmore III -- YASCZRWJBDHMULM."

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 09:39 PM (DQ4Fv)

Happy Gilmore was a great movie ... but I was unaware that there was ever a Happy Gilmore II.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 09:42 PM (zc3Db)

393 nod to buggery rum and the lash?

Seabees are about getting shit DONE. And comshawing army engineers' materials in the dark of night, building the EM clubs, hospitals, and delivering on commitments. But of course, there's the drinking and taking care of lonely women and suchlike. All night.
Posted by: Eromero at May

it was a joke. man, you are longer harder and more full of seamen than a submarine.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:42 PM (cPsPa)

394 Funny, I remember "The Color Purple" that Speilberg produced back in the mid 80's.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 31, 2017 09:29 PM (1JnAL)

++++

There were Whites in there. The dingbat woman who Ofrah Winfrey mouthed off to, and the sheriff who hit Ofrah. The whole crowd around that event.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 31, 2017 09:42 PM (R+30W)

395 Because, Hot.

Posted by: ace

Gal Gad-Hot -- that's how hot.

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 09:42 PM (DQ4Fv)

396 All I wanted from Baywatch was some dumb fun with the Rock and hot chicks. Agreed that a PG-13 constraint would have helped... a lot.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 09:43 PM (6FqZa)

397 as sure as I am you are.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:32 PM (cPsPa)

So, totally could have been a dude.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May

yep. can't tell one way or other from the fuzzy internet pics.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:44 PM (cPsPa)

398 that was a stupid movie. who is going to believe in a purple shark.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:30 PM (cPsPa)

Word

Posted by: Grape Ape at May 31, 2017 09:44 PM (1JnAL)

399 I don't care about the movie and never read a Wonder Woman comic, but Linda Carter was one of the first women that made me realize that women were very interesting in unusual ways.

Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 09:44 PM (fD1ST)

400 you know what I mean. They're not the DCEU.

Posted by: ace

Yes, but why should we expect another multi-bullshit universe to be as popular?

Fuck that.

The Walking Dead isn't, nor can it be connected to another franchise.

If DC(cough Warner Bros. owned by Time Warner ) just did stand-alone movies from now on, who cares?

And yes, I still fucking hate the idea of golden age Justice Friends standing around the Hall of Justice waiting for Mr. Chill to skate into a bank heist.

I just want a Lobo movie.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2017 09:44 PM (udajc)

401 Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:41 PM (8rNrN)

The question I have Ace, when did WW ditch the invisible jet and learned how to fly?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 31, 2017 09:44 PM (bJdWR)

402 315 ...and after checking IMDB, it must be Angie Harmon's sister. Oh, man. Big Angie Harmon fan.

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 09:29 PM (TqmC9)

==============

Ditto. I used to be so jealous of Jason Sehorn (and not just because I wanted to be an NFL Safety).

See that, despite three children, they got divorced last year.

Posted by: ShainS at May 31, 2017 09:45 PM (ZcAbN)

403 #375 When we came out of London Has Fallen I was like man that was a 2 hour commercial for the Trump Campaign.

Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2017 09:45 PM (jHrzU)

404 As a kid back in the '70s, I used to read DC comics, didn't like Marvel. I was trying to remember the name of an illustrator and looked him up.

Dick Dillin. He was a man after my own heart in how sexy he made the womyms.

I remember there was one Justice League series where they had to go to Paradise Island with the Amazons. I was a bit young, and just didn't understand why some of the outfits he had on those babes had such an effect on me.

The circuitry is there from birth. Burned in the ROM. It just takes the conscious mind a while to understand what's going on..... Puberty awakens the higher circuits. But the lower ones are there.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 09:45 PM (8O3HH)

405 In the early 60's, Hollywood played by the old rule. Crime cannot pay.

By the 70's, that went out the window.

Posted by: JAS at May 31, 2017 09:45 PM (EX4Wr)

406 pedsonally, I like cheeta spelled my way for a cheeta woman. Adding the h at the end is like adding a penis.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:46 PM (2qHjF)

407 I'm trying to remember the last movie I saw where when it was over I was awed, feeling fortunate that I had seen that movie.

It's been a long time. Vertigo, I think.

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at May 31, 2017 09:46 PM (PFy0L)

408 Earlier, they were playing Black Sabbath's The Mob Rules during a pause in play in Pittsburgh. They just played Ratt- Round and Round. Stupid observations I make while trying not to get an ulcer watching my Pens in the SC Finals.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 31, 2017 09:46 PM (pY+s4)

409 >>>Gal Gad-Hot -- that's how hot.

cartoon Wonder Woman was even hotter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30nBX1ePJWY

oh there's another Wonder Woman villain-- "Gigantess."

She also fights Aquaman's villain Black Manta there, though they call him "Devil Ray."

Because -- and I only learned this recently -- Black Manta actually is black. (I didn't know that, because I never saw him without his distinctive armor and weirdly-shaped helmet.)

I don't know why that's a problem. There are black heroes and villains.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:46 PM (8rNrN)

410 Been done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwc1Kbv9dVY
Posted by: rickl

I wuz gonna do that! (fistbump!)

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 09:46 PM (S6Pax)

411 >>not every film -- in a comedy, you may miss a line, and Flashback Two Seconds is a wonderful feature.

Yes, you won't be able to flash back. But also, you will laugh more when you're watching it on the big screen. I've personally gotten more laughs in theaters out of films I've seen on the little screen, including when that TV-viewing experience was recent. So, not only am I finding movies funnier on the big screen, I'm finding them funnier even if I just watched them on the little screen.

>>A lot of films just aren't particularly cinematic. Comedies, most of the time. None of that good stuff like "light reflecting off wet nighttime streets" or other good camera stuff.

I've been there, believe me. Wouldn't have expected it to matter nearly as much as it has in every single case.

There are many cases where one doesn't care because the movie just simply isn't good. Or not good enough to warrant a special viewing. But it's surprising how much a difference it can make, even on a not great film.

"The Goonies", for example, I didn't think was great. But it would've lost me completely on TV. I'm going to see "The Sandlot" later this summer not because I think it's going to be great but because, eh, if it's worth the two hours of my time, it's worth watching it for real.

>>Because I used to be a cinephile in this sense (i want the movie-movie experience), defects in the focus or film would piss me off, and I got pissed off a lot (lots of problems with projection), and I tended to not enjoy it as much as I'd hoped.

I didn't get a lot of that. Defects in the film didn't ever bother me that much. (I used to watch for the "cigarette burns".) Focus was annoying more than once. Even now, the theater's bluRay (or whatever) projector will just play the audio. But it's less than 1%.

>>Now theaters are made better and stadium seating promises that there's (almost) not a bad seat in the house, and maybe projection control has gotten better, but still, it's not comfortable. I don't like being trapped by a sea of humanity when I want to pee.

The Boy is diabetic (lotta pee breaks) so he likes to sit on the aisle. I can usually go two hours without peeing, if I haven't drunk a lot before.

But, hey, I admit I'm odd. I think there's a positive quality in going out to watch your video--even HAVING to go out--being amongst other people, etc. And I live in L.A. so I have literally scores of screens to choose from and lots of classic options.

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 09:46 PM (CcUfv)

412 I'm actually quite glad that Gal Gadot has now taken the place of Bar Refaeli as queen of the super-hot Israeli model-chicks.

Why?

Because bar Refaeli bragged about being a draft-dodger, refusing to do her mandatory military service, since she was "special" and not one the little people. Whereas Gal Gadot served for two years with pride, learning Krav Maga, how to fire a rifle, and how to kill terrorists.

Which makes her even hotter.

Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 09:46 PM (DQ4Fv)

413 You have to go back to True Lies to see Muslims as
villains, I think.

How far back for a Republican Good Guy?

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 09:47 PM (TqmC9)

414 The Aquaman movie is going to be badass. 73 minutes in and the supervillain realizes all he needs to do is take over the world / blow up the world somewhere OUT of the water...

Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 09:47 PM (fD1ST)

415 I just want a Lobo movie.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2017 09:44 PM (udajc)

Little too late for that, hoss.

Posted by: Zombie Claude Akins at May 31, 2017 09:47 PM (ANIFC)

416 His prediction prompted Spielberg to recall that his 1982 film E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial stayed in theaters for a year and four months.

Yeah, well, no shit, Sherlock, that was a completely different time. ALL movies ran a lot longer in theaters then than they did ten years later.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2017 09:41 PM (oVJmc)

Yeah, pretty hard to pirate movies in 1982.

Spielberg's cluelessness leads me to mention another possible reason why movies mostly suck now. No really creative directors (or screenwriters, for that matter). 70s and 80s Spielberg produced crowd pleasing movies, but thay also had themes and relatable characters. Heack, I recently rewatched "Back to the Future" (directed by Zemeckis but produced by Spielberg) and was shocked by the obvious product placement in a movie that is nonetheless as emotionally involving as a popcorn movie can hope to be. Spielberg hasn't really shown much creativity recently. A lot of his product is competent, but forgettable. And the people following in his footsteps like J. J. Abrams are just hacks with no interest in character or compelling storyline or anything. They're just versions of Michael Bey no one bothers to make fun of.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at May 31, 2017 09:47 PM (1WTGm)

417 IIRC, in Batman vs. Superman, Wonder Woman was intruduced as a fellow refugee from the Planet Krypton.

Therefore, she is Superwoman.

Posted by: JAS at May 31, 2017 09:47 PM (EX4Wr)

418 Went out to Hollywood a few years ago to sit with a group of producers, directors, and other Hollywood types to figure out how to fix Hollywood. The problem is really the business model. The theaters only get ticket revenue after the third week, by which time the movie has run its course. So the theaters raise the prices on everything, and add more and more stuff at the concession stand, add 3D and IMAX, and now it costs $50 to go to the movies. So the only movies worth that much are the big ones you want to see in the theater. So, they got to make them big, over the top big. And it kills the market for smaller films. How much money could be made by having reasonably priced romantic comedies, action/adventures, and family movies every week at the theater? They broke the business model. They can fix it.

Posted by: IanDeal at May 31, 2017 09:49 PM (teGBX)

419 How far back for a Republican Good Guy?

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 09:47 PM (TqmC9)
Lincoln

Posted by: CN at May 31, 2017 09:49 PM (2+tI4)

420
>>>I think Circe is Wonder Woman's main rival.

Does she turn men into pigs?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2017 09:49 PM (IqV8l)

421 Rickl, that was just beautiful.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 09:49 PM (zkGZ8)

422 Yeah, well, no shit, Sherlock, that was a completely different time. ALL movies ran a lot longer in theaters then than they did ten years later.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
----------------

*runs crying from the room*

Posted by: Inchon! at May 31, 2017 09:49 PM (ZO497)

423 384 >>> My gut feeling tells me that DC had to make her a member of Judtice League to keep her relevant.

she's almost always been a core member. Though, seriously, in the first incarnation (the Justice SOCIETY of America), they made her their... secretary.

Seriously. That happened.

But Wonder Woman has always been big in the JLA and is a good character. DC calls her part of the "Trinity" of Bats, Supes, and WW.

She's well depicted on the Justice League cartoon. Also, supremely hot. That cartoon was where I "Got it" that she was supposed to be a demigod.

Because, Hot.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:41 PM (8rNrN)

The Secretary!!!!1!1!!1!1eleventy!1!1!1!

How very Mad Men of them. Too funny.

Thanks for the response!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:49 PM (2qHjF)

424 The circuitry is there from birth. Burned in the ROM. It just takes the conscious mind a while to understand what's going on..... Puberty awakens the higher circuits. But the lower ones are there.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 09:45 PM (8O3HH)

Two words: Cynthia Myers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:49 PM (VlqX8)

425 >>>IIRC, in Batman vs. Superman, Wonder Woman was intruduced as a fellow refugee from the Planet Krypton.

Therefore, she is Superwoman.

...

no, I think I remember that, and I think that was pre-film leak of some original script or something. That wasn't in the movie, and it's obviously not true given the trailer of Wonder Woman, which features all the Amazons and Themiscyra and etc.

And, spoiler alert, Ares.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:50 PM (8rNrN)

426 what moron is going to pay $25 to see a movie at the theater for 1 person when they can buy it the day it comes out on dvd for $20...shit, it already costs a family of 4 $100 dollars to see a movie now...

part of the problem that i'm sure hollywood doesn't get is us normal people are tired of hearing their libtard asses talk shit about the US, Trump, white privilege, etc...stfu, act, and maybe i'll go see your movie...

Posted by: joe at May 31, 2017 09:50 PM (CBb1I)

427 343 Wonder Woman is receiving good reviews because:

1. The women need their Ghostbusters to finally succeed.

2. DC needs a hit -- if this movie tanks, the DC project is almost over, except for the Justice League (already shot) and maybe a Batman movie or two. But they already had batman.

I want DC to have a hit just to have some competition here. And because I don't like who owns Marvel, or the politics at the actual Marvel.

3. The other DC movies are so bad this one has a low bar to clear.

4. It might also be reasonably good, besides.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:35 PM (8rNrN)

Yeah I think it's a case that it is actually a decent movie and it's getting a big bump from critics because so many of them are sjw tools. One reviewer on YouTube made a contrast of it with Ghostbusters pointing out that Wonder Woman isn't spending the movie pointing out how awful he is for being a man.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 31, 2017 09:50 PM (z/Ubi)

428 True Lies was the last time for a lot of things:

last time Schwarzenegger did something worthwhile

last time Jamie Lee Curtis was hot and not whoring probiotics to keep her grey wrinkly ass regular

last time Tia Carrere was hot, she was throwing off more heat than that nuke they detonated in the keys. how did they get approval for that anyway?

last time tom arnold did anything funny.

last time I went to a movie with my sister

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:50 PM (cPsPa)

429
Bring back Black Canary. She was Green Arrow's SO.

I was looking up Dick Dillin's work, which was bringing back memories, and she popped up. I had forgotten all about that character.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 09:51 PM (8O3HH)

430 part of the problem that i'm sure hollywood doesn't get is us normal people are tired of hearing their libtard asses talk shit about the US, Trump, white privilege, etc...stfu, act, and maybe i'll go see your movie...

Posted by: joe at May 31, 2017 09:50 PM (CBb1I)
I find the list of actors worth boycotting, makes it hard to throw any money away on movies

Posted by: CN at May 31, 2017 09:51 PM (2+tI4)

431 Posted by: TheLowerDepths at May 31, 2017 09:10 PM (1WTGm)

I am listening to Beethoven's 9th right now, and there isn't a better argument for the existence of God, and that he works through Man.

Anyone who criticizes that music can get fvcked.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2017 09:52 PM (x2oyq)

432 Hollywood should do a live-action Speedy Gonzales movie. I'd pay to see that.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 09:52 PM (zkGZ8)

433 Quilter's Irish Death--

Wonder Woman has been able to fly since the '50s.

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/5404/how-why-did-wonder-woman-gain-the-ability-to-fly

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 09:52 PM (CcUfv)

434 The Justice League cartoon is often on Netflix and is really good. Everyone loved it -- why Zach Snyder didn't just take that as a jumping off point, but instead tried to re-make the Watchmen, I don't know.

The last season (called Justice League Unlimited) features a very cool running metaplot about Amanda Waller's attempt to build a superhero team to kill the Justice League, if it ever becomes necessary.

The interesting thing is that Waller is not depicted as crazy or evil, just prudent, and at least one Justice League member actually supports her initiative. Some interesting arguing between heroes.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:53 PM (8rNrN)

435 I am listening to Beethoven's 9th right now, and there isn't a better argument for the existence of God, and that he works through Man.

Anyone who criticizes that music can get fvcked.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May

meh, the first eight innings are just as strong an argument.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:53 PM (cPsPa)

436 415 I just want a Lobo movie.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2017 09:44 PM (udajc)

The Main Man.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 31, 2017 09:54 PM (bJdWR)

437 Has there been a Space Ghost movie?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 09:54 PM (CcuKY)

438 I just want a Lobo movie.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2017 09:44 PM (udajc)

A movie about a song about Me and You and a Dog named Boo?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 31, 2017 09:54 PM (JO9+V)

439 Just heard in game chat that some folks will be boycotting Wonder Woman "because, Gaza." Apparently that was Gal Gadot's own personal fault.

So I'll be going twice.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 31, 2017 09:54 PM (nIGPZ)

440 424 The circuitry is there from birth. Burned in the ROM. It just takes the conscious mind a while to understand what's going on..... Puberty awakens the higher circuits. But the lower ones are there.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 09:45 PM (8O3HH)

Two words: Cynthia Myers.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:49 PM (VlqX

The Sinbad movie with Caroline Munro had that effect on me as a young lad. Watching it on TCM a few years ago, that memory began to stir & I thought "A really hot woman is going to appear any moment now, isn't she?" And bless her heart, she did.

Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 09:54 PM (ANIFC)

441 I only read one of the books and so am not invested enough to care. Also, I asked a friend (Verum Serum) who read all of them "How is he such a superhero badass? Does he work out?"

And he said the books specifically say he doesn't work out much but is just genetically a superman so I was like "Oh, go f*** yourself, book."

So I don't really care if this Conan-like genetic superman is properly depicted on screen.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:30 PM (8rNrN)

Well, Lee Child had a cameo in the first one, so I don't think he minds how Cruise has taken the role.

About the only actors in Hollywood that I think could pull off Reacher better than Cruise are guys that don't have the stroke to get a Jack Reacher movie made in Hollywood.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 31, 2017 09:54 PM (1JnAL)

442 I am listening to Beethoven's 9th right now, and there isn't a better argument for the existence of God, and that he works through Man.

Anyone who criticizes that music can get fvcked.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2017 09:52 PM (x2oyq)

Ormandy's recording of the Ninth (never out of print) was what opened my eyes (and ears) to classical music.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:54 PM (VlqX8)

443 or a gritty reboot of the Tennessee Tuxedo legend?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 09:54 PM (CcuKY)

444 74 Robin Olds was 45 when he was killing MiGs over Vietnam. Tom Cruise as a fighter pilot in 2017 is believable.

Yes but (1) Robin Olds was a bad ass and (2) Tom Cruise would look like an idiot with the 'stache.

Posted by: Tex at May 31, 2017 09:54 PM (xRq2F)

445 Wonder Woman has been able to fly since the '50s.

Posted by: moviegique
________

Whatever happened to Isis?

(You know - came on right after Shazam on Saturdays?)

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 09:55 PM (zkGZ8)

446 Has there been a Space Ghost movie?
Posted by: Grump928(C)

No, but now that the thought exists, it will likely happen. That's really all it takes.

The Rock plays Space Ghost. Sure.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 09:55 PM (S6Pax)

447 Hockey 1-1, end of 2

Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 09:56 PM (qJhUV)

448 or a gritty reboot of the Tennessee Tuxedo legend?

Posted by: Grump928(C)
________

I'm already picturing Clint Eastwood as Commander McBragg.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 09:56 PM (zkGZ8)

449 If Wonder Woman is legit good, I'll watch it. I have zero problem supporting and watching good movies and entertainment. I'm not holding my breath that it will be. I actually think it will suck, but I'm open minded.

Having just seen Bat v Sups recently, I'm in the minority and really liked it enough that I've seen it twice. I actually liked the Gal Gadot character as Wonder Woman. I saw potential.

But color me skeptical and cynical of DC because they really know how to fuck up movies.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 09:56 PM (2qHjF)

450 Yes but (1) Robin Olds was a bad ass and (2) Tom Cruise would look like an idiot with the 'stache.
Posted by: Tex

Robin Olds was indeed a Bad Ass. His life story would make an incredible movie, and you wouldn't have to jazz anything up.
And of course, it will never be made.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 09:57 PM (S6Pax)

451 shazam. if you are ever a Union soldier trying to operate in the CSA make sure your primary expression of wonder and surprise is shazam!

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 31, 2017 09:57 PM (cPsPa)

452 They were supposed to make a American Assasin movie which would be a blockbuster if they followed the book closely. Unfortunately PC will not allow Hollywood to do that so another book they will ruin if they ever give it the green light.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 09:57 PM (IDPbH)

453 Is it possible that the movie is actually decent and not just because reviewers want the movie tio succeed because of girl power?

I need an excuse to go watch Gal Gadot in a period piece action movie, dammit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 09:58 PM (ZgkX8)

454 I'm already picturing Clint Eastwood as Commander McBragg.

Quite.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 09:58 PM (CcuKY)

455 Mr. Sunday Movies, who seems a little bendable to SJW will (given that he said Ghostbusters was "okay") says Wonder Woman is pretty good, not great, not in any way a breakout comic book movie.

However, it may be a breakout comic book movie for DC specifically, which fucking needs to do something really quickly.

If Wonder Woman is as good as a mediocre Marvel movie, that's a success for DC..

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:59 PM (8rNrN)

456 448
or a gritty reboot of the Tennessee Tuxedo legend?

Posted by: Grump928(C)

________

I'm already picturing Clint Eastwood as Commander McBragg.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 09:56 PM (zkGZ

Jack Black as Chumly.

Posted by: davidt at May 31, 2017 09:59 PM (XoldI)

457 Whatever happened to Isis?

(You know - came on right after Shazam on Saturdays?)
Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 09:55 PM (

I forgot about that show. What an unfortunate name.

I don't know what happened to her.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 10:00 PM (Ri/rl)

458 there isn't a better argument for the existence of God, and that he works through Man.

But chimpanzees can make Jackson Pollocks! Harrumph...

Posted by: Teh Leftz! at May 31, 2017 10:00 PM (NBHj5)

459 Best movie ever... Meet the Spartans!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2017 10:01 PM (nlbfN)

460 "Hollywood should do a live-action Speedy Gonzales movie. I'd pay to see that."

Today's Hollywood would make make Speedy a poor Mexican yearning to get his ass over the border to get him some free stuff. Either that or a virtuous drug dealer.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2017 10:01 PM (jm1YL)

461 John Wick 2 will be on DVD in a month. Why trek to the movies when you can see it in the comfort of your home in less than 3 months from the day of the theater release?

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 10:01 PM (IDPbH)

462 Oh for fucks sake. Batman v Superman really is Watchmen, which I love.

That's where that style was lifted from. And I thought it was unique for some reason.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 10:01 PM (2qHjF)

463 433 Quilter's Irish Death--

Wonder Woman has been able to fly since the '50s.

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/5404/how-why-did-wonder-woman-gain-the-ability-to-fly
Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 09:52 PM (CcUfv)

Well damn, thanks MG. Never got DC's universe. Clock King, the Calculator, Matter Eater Lad. But WW, BM and SM are solid. And I worked in the industry for 6 yrs (Spawn/Image).

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 31, 2017 10:01 PM (bJdWR)

464 Caroline Munro.

I'd never heard of that name, but my, my. I've probably seen her, just didn't know the name.

But bueno poontang, indeed.

"Bueno Poontang!" was the exclamation of a buddy of mine in college when he saw a nice specimen. Something reminded me of that the other day.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 10:01 PM (8O3HH)

465

Well the burgers are off the grill, the onions are caramelized and Black Adder is teed up on the home theater...

Fuck Hollywood.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at May 31, 2017 10:02 PM (pchgp)

466 You have to go back to True Lies to see Muslims as

villains, I think.

Executive Decision? I think Perot's David Suchet was some arab bad guy. Released in 1996.

Posted by: Joanne at May 31, 2017 10:02 PM (A07hL)

467 streaming services don't need to stretch out a series, they just need a large enough catalogue of them

this is starting to happen, seasons are getting shorter

Posted by: Joel at May 31, 2017 10:03 PM (JcRMF)

468 >>>Executive Decision? I think Perot's David Suchet was some arab bad guy. Released in 1996.

even that was a bit of a soft-sell -- the terrorist he claimed to want released, he didn't actually want relased (it was a ruse, as Archer would say), and that terrorist tried to convince David Suchet NOT to detonate the bomb.

Also, David Suchet's men were in the dark about Suchet's scheme as well -- they thought it was a common hijacking to force the release of a terrorist (or "political prisoner," whatever).

So really, David Suchet was the only real terrorist-terrorist in that movie, in the sense of wanting to kill lots and lots of people for no reason.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 10:04 PM (8rNrN)

469 you're gonna have to pay $25 for the next Iron Man, you're probably only going to have to pay $7 to see Lincoln."

Red box is a buck fifty, and that is way too much for most of their shit.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 31, 2017 10:04 PM (P/kVC)

470 With all the instant flooding of the Internet with movie reviews and social media opinions, which do infect the masses, personally I think it's better to wait until the opinions die down before watching a movie/film.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 10:05 PM (2qHjF)

471 Night Horde and Ace. Thanks for the great blog posts and comments the last 90 minutes. I appreciate y'all!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 10:06 PM (2qHjF)

472 Jack Black as Chumly.

Posted by: davidt at May 31, 2017 09:59 PM (XoldI)

No, Austin 'Chumlee" Russell (Pawn Stars) as Chumly. Meta casting.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 31, 2017 10:07 PM (JO9+V)

473 Speaking of Tom Cruise, any word on Risky Business, Part II?
Whatever happened to Joel after Princeton?

Posted by: drowningpuppies at May 31, 2017 10:07 PM (EyFCU)

474 Ace if you actually do like the DCAU such as Justice League I would recommend checking out Young Justice on Netflix as well. Consider it sort of an alternate universe and the focus is on the sidekicks. And it is finally getting a third season.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 31, 2017 10:07 PM (CeV//)

475 ONT

Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 10:07 PM (qJhUV)

476 470 With all the instant flooding of the Internet with movie reviews and social media opinions, which do infect the masses, personally I think it's better to wait until the opinions die down before watching a movie/film.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2017 10:05 PM (2qHjF)

Yes and no. For video games, I usually just watch game footage trailers and decide whether I want to buy them- lately a lot of games have been put on the 'two minute hate' for obscure reasons having nothing to do with their overall quality.

Movies, I watch or read reviews from critics I trust only. RLM mostly, although Ace still gets a watch for a recommendation after Edge of Tomorrow.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 10:08 PM (ZgkX8)

477 I didn't realize Suchet did anything else but Perot.

Posted by: dantesed at May 31, 2017 10:08 PM (88xKn)

478 Ormandy's recording of the Ninth (never out of print) was what opened my eyes (and ears) to classical music.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 31, 2017 09:54 PM (VlqX

Barry Tuckwell's Mozart Horn Concertos and Bruno Walter's 6th symphony....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2017 10:08 PM (x2oyq)

479 I watched all 3 seasons of Bosch. Enjoyed them very much. Then I tried watching Goliath and couldn't get past episode one. Billy Bob Thornton is really hard to look at.

Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2017 10:08 PM (jm1YL)

480 The great thing about Isis "Oh, Mighty Isis!" for JoAnna Cameron had to be that she didn't have to change her clothes if she headed for the disco after a day's shoot.

For some reason I was less interested in SHAZAM!! (Though I had a few comic books. Pretty sure Isis was just the ERA version of Shazam.)

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 10:08 PM (CcUfv)

481 Black Dynamite, 2009. Which you need to see if you haven't.

Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 09:40 PM (fD1ST)

I'm Gonna Get You Sucka

Keenan Ivory Wayans made the movie right before "In Living Color" hit TV. Stars a bunch of the blaxpotation stars of the 70's.

Black Dynamite was awesome.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 31, 2017 10:09 PM (1JnAL)

482 Any chance of Jason of Star Command? Want to see Sid Haig reprise his role as Dragos.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 31, 2017 10:10 PM (bJdWR)

483 Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 09:59 PM (8rNrN)

And Capone at AICN is, of course, jizzing his pants at all the grrl-power(!) in the movie.

What a pussy.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 31, 2017 10:10 PM (17QyB)

484 Oh for fucks sake. Batman v Superman really is Watchmen, which I love.

That's where that style was lifted from. And I thought it was unique for some reason.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe

The problem with Watchmen the movie is that it has to be explained at length. Mostly because the movie version cracks open Moore's commie nihilist ideal and shits in his mouth.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2017 10:10 PM (udajc)

485 Caroline Munro?

Beautiful, but dumb enough to get into a complete stranger's UFO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0G-G24ZFm8

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 10:11 PM (CcUfv)

486 "Watchmen" demonstrates that if you give liberals superpowers, they become supervillains.

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 10:12 PM (CcUfv)

487 Caroline Munro.

I'd never heard of that name, but my, my. I've probably seen her, just didn't know the name.

Stromberg's henchwoman in The Spy Who Loved Me.

Posted by: I don't think Bond got to hit it, though at May 31, 2017 10:12 PM (wpC7C)

488 Speaking of Tom Cruise and Scientology, I've been watching that Leah Remini show about leaving Scientology, and I have to say that after watching this show, I still want to bang the hell out of Leah Remini.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 31, 2017 10:14 PM (1JnAL)

489 479 I watched all 3 seasons of Bosch. Enjoyed them very much. Then I tried watching Goliath and couldn't get past episode one. Billy Bob Thornton is really hard to look at.
Posted by: Tuna at May 31, 2017 10:08 PM (jm1YL)

Your post reminded me of Sling Blade. IMO one of the best acted films ever. Besides Thornton , Yokum's acting convinced me he had to be an abusive domestic partner in real life.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 10:15 PM (IDPbH)

490

Bidets got an association amongst us 'Mericans with French whores from WWII. Or was it WWI?

Anyway, they saw them in French whorehouses, thinking that's what the whores used to hose themselves out between clients.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 10:18 PM (8O3HH)

491 491: Wrong thread, sorry. Screw up when you have two tabs open.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 31, 2017 10:19 PM (8O3HH)

492 Speaking of the movies - Eva Mendes is many kinds of hawt.

Her brief flash of full frontal in Training Day was a treat.

Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2017 10:20 PM (jHrzU)

493 Greetings:

I grew up in the Bronx of the '50s and '60s. Back then and there movie theaters showed double features. The smallest, least fancy, closest theater was a 25 cents admission, the next closest, etc. was 35 cents and the fanciest, first run was 50 cents. Cartoons, newsreels, and short features were also involved. Commercials were not.

Posted by: 11B40 at May 31, 2017 10:22 PM (evgyj)

494 I don't give two shits how Wonder Woman does at the BO, but I saw some chatter on Twitter about the star being Israeli, and some lefty anti-semites (BIRM) having a problem with that.

I dunno if there's anything to that so don't go by me. It adds yet another political dimension to the mess if it's true though.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 31, 2017 10:25 PM (/BXzQ)

495 >>>Ace if you actually do like the DCAU such as Justice League I would recommend checking out Young Justice on Netflix as well. Consider it sort of an alternate universe and the focus is on the sidekicks. And it is finally getting a third season.

I've heard about season 3. I never wanted to watch it, because I usually don't like the teens, but then I saw clips of it, and it looked great. (The clips I saw featured the actual JLA member interacting with the Titans.)

So I might just push aside my prejudice against the Teen versions of the heroes, because man, it does (visually) look good. Even better than Justice League.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 10:31 PM (8rNrN)

496 To properly appreciate Robin Olds whole life would require two movies, one set in WWII and one set in Viet Nam.

It would be possible to film the second movie because there is a flying F-4 Phantom in civilian hands. Along with a few MiG-21s. Don't think the Fresno or the Farmer has found any takers on the civil market.

Best guy to be the adviser for both movies passed away. Ed Rasimus helped write Olds' biography Fighter Pilot and did two combat tours in Viet Nam racking up 200+ missions in F-105Ds and F-4Es.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 10:31 PM (GBWQj)

497 one thing that always made me NOT like DC when I was younger, and prefer marvel, was DC's weird and unbreakable habit of ALWAYS having some Teen analogue of a hero. I thought that was silly. They ALL have young dopplegangers?

plus, being younger, I didn't want to see KIDS. I wanted to see adults. Or, you know, people as old as Spider-Man, who was kind of an adult, at least when he had his costume on.

Marvel didn't do that. There was no Iron Boy, or Hulk Jr., or Little Thing, or Flaming Teen. When they had a "teen" group it was like the X-Men, who were there own thing, not young versions of established characters.

Anyway, that's why I was a Marvel kid when younger: I hated the DC Teens.

but I do hear a lot of adults saying how much they like the teen titans.

Not sure why they like them so much, as I never gave them a chance.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 10:36 PM (8rNrN)

498 495 >>>Ace if you actually do like the DCAU such as Justice League I would recommend checking out Young Justice on Netflix as well. Consider it sort of an alternate universe and the focus is on the sidekicks. And it is finally getting a third season.

I've heard about season 3. I never wanted to watch it, because I usually don't like the teens, but then I saw clips of it, and it looked great. (The clips I saw featured the actual JLA member interacting with the Titans.)

So I might just push aside my prejudice against the Teen versions of the heroes, because man, it does (visually) look good. Even better than Justice League.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 10:31 PM (8rNrN)

Yeah there is a decent amount of interaction between the Justice League and the sidekicks. And even though it is focused on the teens I think it's a bit more adult than even Justice League was. It's definitely not like Teen Titans was and not at all the abomination that is Teen Titans Go

Posted by: Buzzion at May 31, 2017 10:39 PM (cAnNx)

499 Bring back the big screen

Posted by: Mamawolf at May 31, 2017 10:43 PM (/GtFV)

500 Heh. I liked the "Teen Titans" cartoon. Ine of my kids won't watch "Teen Titans Go", not because it's not funny (it is) but because she doesn't want the original toon messed with.

The comic books were okay. Cartoon teens aren't a lot like real teens. They have jobs (fighting crime's a job!) and vehicles and no parents.

The original "Harlequin" was Joker's daughter, and she was a Teen Titan who fought against him. (That's pretty teen-y, I guess.) Also, I got the distinct impression she was black(ish), which might have been edgy (to someone).

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 10:46 PM (CcUfv)

501 I would like to have seen this get developed but DC/WB/Cartoon Network opted for something similar but lamer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7ging4Nqww

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 10:48 PM (CcUfv)

502 I can tell you why I don't go to the movies: They cost s lot. Take both my daughters to the movies, it costs $10 for a bottle of water and a snack, then $15 x3 for tickets, that's over $50. I can wait six months and buy the DVD for $15, or wait a year and pay $10, or wait two years and check it out from the library (FREE). I'm at the tail end of the baby boom, I have two kids who both think they want to go to college, and I'd like to retire in 11 years. Probably a lot of other boomers are in the same boat.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 feet CO at May 31, 2017 10:50 PM (pOIpG)

503 By the way, the Lego Batman movie is really good. Probably second in my list of Batman movies after the Adam West 1966 movie.

I hated the West stuff as a kid but it's so much more fun than the brabrbarhahBATMANbrabra stuff, even when (like the Nolan flicks) it's done pretty well. (It may be my third overall superhero movie with the Donner Supes being the first two.)

Now that they've turned Bats into a psychopath, they needed a movie like Lego to point out that that's a really grim and dumb way to go through life.

Posted by: moviegique at May 31, 2017 10:51 PM (CcUfv)

504 Formaldehyde enemas.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Watch out the Scientology lawyers will be after you for disclosing stuff like that

Posted by: Jean at May 31, 2017 10:55 PM (9TU00)

505 Damn, Ace infringing on TJM's turf.

Well said as always.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at May 31, 2017 11:27 PM (KCgrJ)

506 Tom Cruise's movies are like that too -- he's the only guy doing a particular kind of movie, where the late eighties never really died. Shooting and stunts and no giant space monsters (usually). ~~Good~~ Xenu bless him.

FIFY

Posted by: Fox2! at May 31, 2017 11:42 PM (brIR5)

507 Film could re-invent itself by working hand-in-glove with TV.

A big budget movie could be a helluva launch to a new TV series, look at the upcoming "Inhumans" for example. On the other side, imagine the draw if a popular TV series, such as "The Walking Dead", were to show its season finale for on the big screen first. That would work especially well to breathe extra life into a series that is starting to lose momentum.

If you cant beat them, join them.

Posted by: Eurpancreas at May 31, 2017 11:50 PM (3+E2h)

508
"Hail, hail fire and snow,
call the Angel, we will go . . ."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (mbhDw)

Friendly angel, come to us.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 01, 2017 12:19 AM (brIR5)

509 The solution for Hollywood is simple. Make better movies.

In the last decade, how many great films have bombed at the box office? And how many pieces of garbage have made hundreds of millions of dollars? I think the latter is more common than the former.

It can be freakin' amazing to watch a good/great original film and then look at a remake made years or decades later and witness how much worse the filmmaking and storytelling is in the remake. My theory is that starting with music videos and getting worse with YouTube is that young filmmakers have grown up obsessed with getting THE moment or THE image or THE scene right, but have absolutely no clue how to connect those moments or images or scenes together to make an actual motion picture.

Mike

Posted by: MBunge at June 01, 2017 12:29 AM (d2sU9)

510 Mike, your solution relies on sophisticated movie consumers. That might be a problem.

Posted by: Eurpancreas at June 01, 2017 12:45 AM (3+E2h)

511 Let's see... I can stay at home to see a movie and...

1. Pay significantly less than going to the rip off arena.
2. Pause the movie.
3. Take a whiz while said movie is paused. See #2.
4. Not have to listen to other people be noisy idiots.
5. Not have people crawl over me to whiz.
6. Make my own damn popcorn for significantly less. Plus, I can get the fancy chocolate swirl covered kind that the ripoff arena doesn't sell and you have to smuggle in like some drug dealer to enjoy it. Fuck them!
7. When I go whiz, I don't have to worry about the bathroom being occupied by weirdos that I'm not related to. And... the movie is paused at home...

Movie theaters on on the way out. Doesn't break my heart in the least.

Posted by: PaterNovem at June 01, 2017 01:14 AM (wxQ53)

512 Good analysis, Ace.

AND Left-think and the Thought Police are the death of drama and suspense; also of comedy.

Up next: Samizdat Productions.

Posted by: Beverly at June 01, 2017 01:15 AM (9Z6LD)

513 The last movie I saw in the theater was "Blazing Saddles," last year in the Radio City Music Hall, with Mel Brooks doing a real funny QA right afterwards -- about a half-hour of nonstop wisecracks and hilarious anecdotes at New York speed that felt like a full hour.

When the movie started, the entire auditorium cheered: 5,000 fans. Boy, you just can't get that feeling sitting at home by yourself with your TV.

What has really killed the movie business is the commie wankers who are running it: There's no gut-wrenching Good versus Evil any more ("Everything's all the saaaame"), and all funny stuff, pretty much, is forbidden; OH! and there's no such thing as Man and Woman either, so that's right out, or has to have a homo sidebar "romance," etc., etc., etc.

Such wankers they are. Total buzzkills.

And the Chinese market? yeah, the idea that Every Single Movie has to play Everywhere is also killing the good stories. Which is idiotic because the world has Always loved American movies and our sense of heroes and villains -- people love that shit. But the commie wanker bean-counters can't see it.

Posted by: Beverly at June 01, 2017 01:27 AM (9Z6LD)

514 I must be one of those weird people who actually WANTS to go to a theater, and shell out the bucks to see a movie in a theater. That being said, I want to watch something worth my time. The last movie I saw in a theater: "Rogue One". Before that, "Spectre". Before that, "Star Wars VII". Before that, "Skyfall". And before that, Spiderman III". That's five movies in a theater in 10 years!

Time was when ones I wanted to see in a theater came out in waves. The summer of 2000 is a good example: a time when "Gladiator" and "X-Men" came out, among others. But those days are long gone.

Less CGI - or at least an economically deployed CGI - is not a bad thing. I want a good story, a decent premise, a decent plot, carried out by actors/actresses who can make it all believable. But Hollywood has not done that in ages. And I can't put that all on TV, either. For 30 years people have had the capability of setting up their own home theater systems, and such systems have only gotten better and cheaper. If this were all on the purported golden age of TV, part 2, the cracks should have been showing long ago.

Hollywood needs to get back to the basics of telling a good, compelling story. It's something they have abandoned for years now.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at June 01, 2017 02:26 AM (gzDHL)

515 Well they are not going to survive on filmhouse box office, because I'll be damned if I'm going to pay more than it costs to buy the Blue Ray, to see a film in a theater full of talkers, texters and brat-assed kids kicking my seat.
The electronics industry has spent a decade selling us all 'home theaters' and large high resolution screens.

the film industry would do better to broad release their films as PPV-streaming to any device for $10. Probably more people would pay to do that, than go to a theater.

Posted by: rayra at June 01, 2017 02:45 AM (Pgsaa)

516 The only good movies are ones that have a literary heritage. That means some schmuck has to sit down and write a compelling story that is translated into a visual medium. Hate on Moby Dick with Atticus Fitch playing Ahab but it is a good story some schmuck converted to a visual medium. Without the story it is a 90 minute nightmare.
Wait, let me rephrase that....

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 01, 2017 02:51 AM (e1mEI)

517 "482 Any chance of Jason of Star Command? Want to see Sid Haig reprise his role as Dragos."

Good lord! There's something I haven't seen or heard of in 32 years!

I'd be MUCH more interested to see who would play the role of Nicole Davidoff.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at June 01, 2017 04:08 AM (gzDHL)

518 You left out the most important item: STARS. In the last century people went to movies to see stars. You went to most movies BECAUSE Gary Cooper,John Wayne, Betty Davis, etc were in them. How many of today''starts' can make that claim>s

Posted by: Lew at June 01, 2017 06:17 AM (WcYU8)

519 You mentioned about the Reacher movies I think that Cruise is a professional in the best sense of the term and I agree. He shows up, does his job and seems to remember that he is there to do something the audience will enjoy.

I hope that The Mummy is good because I would like to see the old monsters come back.
Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (dEQP3)

To my surprise, I really loved the first Reacher movie, and really liked the second one even though the ending was schmaltzy.

The Edge of Tomorrow is also very good. Huh. It just occurred to me that three of last four movies I've purchased star Tom Cruise.

But I've seen the previews for The Mummy, and they are a confusing mess. I hope the actual movie is better.

Posted by: Gem at June 01, 2017 07:22 AM (uaHyk)

520 Its not the cgi, its not the "reboot" its not the foreign audience, its the crappy liberal writers. producers and actors. They insult their audience. They don't know their subject matter, they are lazy in their facts and portrayal. They rarely venture past their east or west coast bubble and reject anything that threatens their world view......They always want to make everything PC and inject their liberal politics into every conversation!

Posted by: jhaley59 at June 01, 2017 07:43 AM (f4z3u)

521 News Media, Hollywood, Cable Television, The University Industrial Complex, the Deep State... all the pillars of Leftist social control are experiencing or about to experience massive disruption. Public education will soon be their last redoubt.

Posted by: Zon Toro at June 01, 2017 08:57 AM (82s/V)

522 I don't go to the movies not so much because they are produced by left wing rubes, but because yeah, everything is splodey, 'spectacular' CGI crap with characters you don't care about.

The only exception I have seen is Guardians of the Galaxy. It was splodey and CGI crazy but it was funny and had character development. Other than that, when I seen yet another splodey CGI mess advertised, I run for cover.

Neflix original series is going to bring down the Hollywood movie buisness. There is stuff on there so much better than what you get at the movie theater. Great dramas such as bloodline, Stranger Things and so many others.

Posted by: jp at June 01, 2017 09:03 AM (ctXeH)

523 the stranger things creator said they could never make that show into a movie or series of movies; hollywood never would have bought it. and it became a massive hit on netflix.

Posted by: jp at June 01, 2017 09:04 AM (ctXeH)

524 Yes it is all very depressing. There is an inertial stupidity at work. Hollywood is stuck on Big Stupid. I don't even blame 'em. I blame the zombie general public who would go see a movie featuring CGI hamster robots battling mutant dung beetles on Mars if it was marketed to them. You ought to add the depressing Star Wars and Star Trek features. And they will make them until this civilization collapses. Which of course may not be far off. And the less said about the Fast and Furious, the better.

Posted by: Lawrence at June 01, 2017 09:50 AM (sBHT0)

525 test test

Posted by: ArthurK at June 01, 2017 11:19 AM (AVMrq)

526 Wild horses.

As in, there aren't enough wild horses to drag me to a movie theater these days.

Posted by: Guido H. Obama at June 01, 2017 12:26 PM (0xzXo)

527 Consider the horrorfests which would be modern remakes of "Airplane!" or "Blazing Saddles."

Wouldn't it be great to sit a theater full of SJW to watch Blazing Saddles. Then have the lobby full of grief counselors, and film that!

Posted by: Paladin at June 01, 2017 12:36 PM (LTquJ)

528 Clint Eastwood is doing a movie about those three Americans who thwarted the knife-and-gun attack on the Thalys train running from Brussels to Paris. I assume Hollywood only permitted this because they're all afraid of saying no to Clint Eastwood. And they fucking should be.
QFT

Posted by: moronhorde minion at June 01, 2017 12:39 PM (88jeI)

529 Lurker here, but had to comment: I've seen two pretty good 'films' in the last 6 months. "Lion" and "The Red Turtle". Probably not for everyone but interesting, which is what it's all about for me.

Also, if Dirty Harry makes a movie about the train vigilantes I'll stand in line to see it.

Finally, Paladin above has a brilliant idea. Film it, sell it pay-per-view and make a fortune.

Posted by: Farmboy at June 01, 2017 09:11 PM (tlyas)

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