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Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum -- Again
It is imperative we begin emulating the left in its tactics.
A couple of years ago, I suggested a completely different strategy: I wanted to pursue a kinder path. I wanted an end to the speech wars and social media mobs and boycotts and all the rest of it. But that path has been tried, and it has failed. Passive resistance -- moral resistance -- can only work when dealing with opponents with morality and honor, or who, at least, see you as more than subhuman. Gandhi's tactics would not have worked had India been colonized by, say, China. Many on the right, or even liberals who lean to the left but who still hold to classic liberal traditions, have called, endlessly, for an end to the Speech Wars. That failed. We've been trying this for years. Two or three years in my own case. Has this sweet music of reason had any positive effect of soothing the passions of the beast? Well, watch this video of the Empowered Mob demanding more firings at Evergreen college last week, and tell me the path of merely condemning mob lunacy is having any effect at all. The Empowered, Privileged Mob demanded -- demanded! -- that white people absent themselves from their space, and this is what happened to those who said, "No, that's racist, and teaching class is my job." Embarrassed by their own repulsive behavior, the Privileged Mob is now demanding -- demanding! again, like emotionally unstable toddlers -- that this video be taken down and that consequences be visited on whoever "stole" it. This is not working. People calling for an end to the Speech Wars have a good end in mind -- most people would just love it if not every single minor consumer transaction were not politicized, if not every single public faux pas were not a call to the Social Justice Wolves to come and feed -- but the current strategy, championed by most who want to get to this end-point, is not working. The dispute I have with them now is not over their preferred end-state -- I deeply desire the end-state they seek, where people actually have freedom to think and speak as they want, and not every fucking mundane movie-ticket purchase is either a Cause or a Crisis -- but the current policy of "unilateral disarmament, and hope that the Monster Babies will learn from our example" is a total, dismal, catastrophic failure. In order to learn at all, it is required that someone first believe that he has anything to learn at all, and we know that progressives do not see conservatives as people from whom anything can be learned -- they see us as subhumans to be re-educated and reconstructed into civilized savages who at least won't embarrass them as we tend their gardens. Leftist students cannot be taught anything -- they now routinely scream at professors (you know, the people they're allegedly paying to learn from) that they must SHUT UP AND LISTEN. They come to the university already knowing all there is to know, and in fact are only present to teach their professors; one wonders, then, why it isn't the students being paid, and the professors paying tuition to learn their collective, shouty, expletive-filled wisdom. (By the way, don't be fooled: None of these people will pay the massive debts they're acquiring while passing time at university; you will.) The most we are "winning" is not losing as much: We chalk it up as a "win" that USAA has been counter-pressured to resume buying ads on Hannity, overlooking the fact that nine other companies were protested by the left into boycotting him, and remain in full boycott. We overlook the fact that corporations routinely -- some might say "eagerly" -- join Social Justice War-Bands to curry favor with them and to improve their "brand image" in the eyes of the progressives, which make up about 20% of the country, but seem to be the only demographic that matters. Rather like the Brahmin class of India. But more on that later. We don't seem to notice that we are always defending, and even the best possible outcome for our attempts at defense only means that we have avoided harm -- for a month. Then they start up again, demanding this corporation boycott this public commentator, demanding that this writer have his advanced canceled, demanding that this Random Citizen of No Particular Public Interest be fired for the crime of giving spoiled, stupid Monster Babies something to #Occupy their shriveled brains for a morning. But they never stop. And why would they? Just as the best possible outcome for us is that we avoid the harm they intended for us for one short month, the worst possible outcome for them is they will not get This Twitter Cycle's Designated Scalp -- for now. But there'll be another scalp ripe for the tearing in a few days. In short, the worst penalty they suffer is not being able to make anyone else suffer-- for a short period. They are never made to suffer themselves. Thus, they have absolutely no incentive whatsoever to ever stop. If you're a sadist, and an insecure individual with little credit to his name, you can build yourself up into a Social Justice War-Fighter by constantly attacking others and making them miserable and afraid. The worst outcome is that you don't get your scalp -- this time. But you have in fact caused your enemies to fear you, and to always worry what might upset you next. Which is a major psyops victory in itself -- the best, and easiest, form of censorship is self-censorship, and if you've put your enemies into terror of being the next to face the mob, they will self-censor, and they will become, against their will at first, but then according to their habit as time goes on, your personal censorship enforcers, patrolling their own minds for thoughts the mob has deemed impermissible. The second-best outcome in war is to take an enemy out. But the very best outcome is to Shanghai an enemy to be one of your own marines. The worst outcome for them is basically... the best outcome for them. Do they ever actually suffer for their own choices? Do they ever experience a setback larger than just not getting their way, this week? No. And it's time for that to change. If a sadistic, insecure, submediocre individual enjoys tormenting those he deems enemies, like a child who enjoys pulling the wings off flies, he will not stop -- ever -- unless he is made to feel the same pain himself. If he subscribes to a racist cult that says all outside the cult are Fair Game for abuse, and abusing them is actually a sacrament -- how can he be made to stop? If you're in a fight with someone, and you never do anything but parry blows and dodge, you can at least hope for him to tire himself out. But he'll have regained his endurance by the next morning. And, as he actually enjoys just throwing blows at you, and you've done nothing to convince him this is a counterproductive idea -- he will be back. If you never actually hit him right the fuck back -- when is he ever going to learn that fighting is not a good idea? Many of us -- and I blame myself here -- have been pushing an idea of unilateral disarmament in this arena, hoping they would just learn how awful and venomous they are. But they don't. I think they take a rather different lesson from our passive resistance than the one they intended. We intended that by passively resisting, they would see us as showing moral courage and would learn from us that ceaseless violence and bullying and collectivized political campaigns run against everyday citizens pursuing no public office are wrong. But they didn't learn that. What our self-restraint has taught them is quite the opposite--when we refuse to fight back, they take that as signalling that deep down, we know they're right and that we are the monsters, and thus, our refusal to engage them in the fight they've started does not prove our moral rightness, but instead our moral corruption. We think: We are showing them a better way by acting in a manner that is morally superior. They infer: They are submitting to us as if they are our inferiors, therefore they must know that they are in fact our inferiors. We cannot keep deluding ourselves into pursuing a course of action which, while appearing morally righteous and principled on paper, is in fact bringing more suffering upon ourselves and only encouraging the behavior we thought our peaceable approach was actually discouraging. This path is not stopping the Social Justice Warrior Cult of Racist Hatred -- it's fueling it. We shall have One Law in this country, or none at all. If these tactics are permissible -- and effective, as they certainly appear to be -- then they are permissible for all, not just a special privileged group of Empowered Snowflake Warriors. If it's permissible to pressure corporations into firing people and cancelling appearances for leftist groups, then surely it is permissible for the right to do likewise. Only when they start seeing themselves blacklisted for employment will these morally senseless people learn that blacklisting is bad. They do not have moral sense, but I trust most of them are not so stupid that they don't possess a basic practical regard for their own self-interest. If you want the Culture of Ceaseless Social War to stop -- which i dearly do -- then I propose it is necessary to engage in it ourselves, until they sue for (at long last!) peace. We must insist on equality before the law -- and before the media, as well. The progressives are in the final stages of a decades-long campaign to make us a Lower Caste, with fewer rights and privileges than the Ruling Caste (and the sad courtiers to the Ruling Caste, who hilariously believe themselves to be members of that caste). When we demand that the "rules," such as they may be, must be enforced equally as to all, this is no minor cavil: If a social order exists in which some groups labor under additional legal and social burdens than others, then that social order is, by definition, a caste system. If we accept this caste system, and we accept that we belong to a lower caste by submitting ourselves to the special burdens reserved for those of our station, we confirm our place in the lower caste and we also confirm the special privileges of the higher caste. It is social codes like these that make a caste. In England, back when it was more class-stratified (and who knows, maybe today), a "gentleman" could refer to a commoner just by his last name, or his first name. Tom. Upton. Whatever. But the commoner was expected to only refer to the gentleman as "sir" (or "ma'am,") or, if named, with the title of dignity "Mister" (or "Miss"). Anyone who followed that convention was confirming his own place in the hierarchy. Another man can only tell you you belong to an inferior caste. But when you begin acting like you're part of an inferior caste -- following his rules and his preferences, substituting them for your own -- then you actually are now part of that inferior caste. The man posing as a lord only asserts you are a serf. When you begin bowing to him, you confirm his claim. The same rules must apply to all, the same laws. The same dignities. For everyone. Or else you have a hardening caste system. What do I want? I want a world in which angry mobs do not form up and begin screaming at people or pressuring companies to fire people just to fill their empty, pathetic lives with something shabby and mean they can pretend is grand and noble. But we're not in that world. We're not in that world of Social Peace. And refusing to acknowledge that we are in a state of Social War does not bring Social Peace any closer; it just encourages the Monster Babies to wage even further war, making more demands, demanding more submissions, concessions, and ritualized confessions. If you want peace, prepare for war. You may not be interested in Social War, but the Social Warriors are deeply, deeply interested you, and bringing you to heel, and making you confess that you are indeed a creature with fewer rights and privileges than they possess. No one's ever going to put them in a position of authority over others -- which is why they desperately need you to accept they have authority over you. I didn't particularly want Kathy Griffin fired -- but it was necessary. I actually envy her lack of inhibition and total feeling of freedom. She felt she could do whatever she wanted, so long as it broke no laws. I'd like to feel that way. But I can't. I can't feel that way, because I know the progressive mob is always scalp-hunting, and that I am not free to say or think as I might like. They rule part of my brain -- my very fear of them limits my thoughts, creates inhibitions and limitations in me which I did not choose for myself, but were forced upon me from without. I have become, partly, a recruit in the Social Justice Warrior army. Their dicta, their demands, their fury is always alive inside of me. I know to fear them. And so I must self-censor. My fear of their power makes part of my own brain their appointed warden for the rest of my head. So a big part of my anger is in seeing Kathy Griffin act as a totally free spirit and free agent, able to do what she likes just because she thinks it's funny, or "edgy," or whatever. It makes me angry to see her living a life where she can just do something without fearing the consequences -- but I can't. And neither can you. My hatred of Kathy Griffin isn't a hatred of her -- it's a hatred of the vicious caste-based system which says she has more rights than Sean Hannity, and more rights than you, and more rights than me. If keeping some of my diminished amount of freedom means that I have to thuggishly begin taking it from others -- so be it. I didn't make the rules. I'm just trying to survive them. I don't want her to have less freedom -- but the only way to make sure I keep the limited, constantly-eroded freedom I currently have is to insist that I am not a serf, and I will not be held to different laws than the Lords. As I cannot accept that -- and as I will not accept that -- I must insist she pay the same cost I would be expected to pay if I were to do what she did. Otherwise, I'm saying Sir/Ma'am to the Ruling Caste, and confirming that I accept my lower position. Hillary Clinton called half of the country "The Deplorables." It's really not so different from the lowest caste in India -- the "Untouchables," is it? They're not even attempting to turn us into serfs covertly any longer -- it's now just pretty much out in the open. No more. No more.Comments
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Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 31, 2017 06:18 PM (E8apb)
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Ok this is scary.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 31, 2017 06:19 PM (E8apb)
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I'm unworthy
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 31, 2017 06:19 PM (E8apb)
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On the bright side, chicks nowadays are more into butt stuff.
Posted by: wooga at May 31, 2017 06:19 PM (mqHvU)
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Wtf? the blog is broke.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 31, 2017 06:20 PM (E8apb)
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Never start a fight but always finish one.
Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2017 06:20 PM (s5o+q)
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@wooga, what on earth is the appeal of butt stuff? Poop is in the butt. Why on earth would the poop-hole be interesting to anyone?
Posted by: sunny-dee at May 31, 2017 06:21 PM (QAOZh)
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ACE. Thank you. yes. yes yes yes.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 31, 2017 06:21 PM (E8apb)
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I'm not personally interested in butt stuff.
But it is funny, and has some novelty.
But it is funny, and has some novelty.
Posted by: wooga at May 31, 2017 06:22 PM (mqHvU)
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@wooga, what on earth is the appeal of butt stuff?
Poop is in the butt. Why on earth would the poop-hole be interesting to
anyone?
Posted by: sunny-dee at May 31, 2017 06:21 PM (QAOZh)
It's tight, it's considered "naughty", and it doesn't cause pregnancy.
Poop is in the butt. Why on earth would the poop-hole be interesting to
anyone?
Posted by: sunny-dee at May 31, 2017 06:21 PM (QAOZh)
It's tight, it's considered "naughty", and it doesn't cause pregnancy.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 06:23 PM (fKWf6)
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I haven't seen this movie yet. Hope there are no spoilers.
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 31, 2017 06:23 PM (oAY8z)
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Welcome to the Party Ace. Glad to have ya
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:23 PM (SjImc)
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No way can I read all that right now, can anyone give me the short version?
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:24 PM (Ot7+c)
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To paraphrase Sherman: "The is the remedy our enemies have chosen. Let us give them all they like of it."
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 06:25 PM (ZgkX8)
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So this is a foreign movie?
Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 06:25 PM (qJhUV)
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13 No way can I read all that right now, can anyone give me the short version?
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:24 PM (Ot7+c)
Progs suck and are evil. We should stop pretending otherwise.
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:24 PM (Ot7+c)
Progs suck and are evil. We should stop pretending otherwise.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 06:25 PM (ZgkX8)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 06:25 PM (3OIiX)
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Awesome! LOng Ace post! Gonna get a beer and read.... then prolly make some retarded comment.....
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at May 31, 2017 06:26 PM (br2jI)
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Hmmm. A call to arms so to speak.
One tactic would be for those of us that are 29 to sign up for a college course and take absolutely no shit from the barbarous idiot commies that want to rule over free Americans.
Hit them with logic and do not bend on the Constitutional protections to individuals and Equal Rule of Law.
One tactic would be for those of us that are 29 to sign up for a college course and take absolutely no shit from the barbarous idiot commies that want to rule over free Americans.
Hit them with logic and do not bend on the Constitutional protections to individuals and Equal Rule of Law.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 31, 2017 06:26 PM (u82oZ)
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I don't get it.
We're winning. Not fast enough for my taste. But we are.
Small scale. Kathy Griffin just blew up her career.
Big scale. Global Warming is about to be declared a hoax by POTUS.
We're winning. Not fast enough for my taste. But we are.
Small scale. Kathy Griffin just blew up her career.
Big scale. Global Warming is about to be declared a hoax by POTUS.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:26 PM (+7/1f)
Posted by: bluebell at May 31, 2017 06:26 PM (r3yf/)
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That there is a lot of reading, but worth it...
Posted by: It's Me donna at May 31, 2017 06:26 PM (O2RFr)
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It's too late.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 31, 2017 06:26 PM (CNHr1)
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It is imperative we begin emulating the left in its tactics.
I have no interest in emulating the left's tactics. Frankly, I don't care how the left tries to do what they do. All I want is the left to be mercilessly dealt with and to have their criminals jailed.
The left deserves no quarter. They are evil shitweasels from their very cores.
I have no desire to hold the left to their own stupid laws and rules - which are laws and rules that have no business existing in any way. I want to hold them to normal laws - which they break all the time. And, to reiterate - no mercy. They don't deserve it.
I have no interest in emulating the left's tactics. Frankly, I don't care how the left tries to do what they do. All I want is the left to be mercilessly dealt with and to have their criminals jailed.
The left deserves no quarter. They are evil shitweasels from their very cores.
I have no desire to hold the left to their own stupid laws and rules - which are laws and rules that have no business existing in any way. I want to hold them to normal laws - which they break all the time. And, to reiterate - no mercy. They don't deserve it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 06:26 PM (zc3Db)
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A lot of words to simply say Republicans never play the tit-for-tat game which is why they always lose.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 31, 2017 06:27 PM (mpXpK)
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That is one sick video. And he administrators have brought this on themselves. This is what goes on in HS too. assault without consequences for theirs now a favored class and a subjugated class and violence on that lower class is Ok...its good. They have convinced themselves they deserve it.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 31, 2017 06:27 PM (E8apb)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 31, 2017 06:27 PM (YEelc)
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Welcome back to the dark side, Ace.
Or as I'm fond of saying, if you want a free Tibet (or whatever cause of the day), then grab a rifle. Otherwise, STFU.
It only takes one side to declare war...
Or as I'm fond of saying, if you want a free Tibet (or whatever cause of the day), then grab a rifle. Otherwise, STFU.
It only takes one side to declare war...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 06:27 PM (MINbv)
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I've been saying for a while that we're in a war. It's not a shooting war, not yet, but if we don't want shooting, we need to be shouting.
We need to be rioting.
We need Conservatives to go to jail for vandalism, violence and disruption.
That's not fun. That's not easy.
But if you want to avoid a shooting war, be ready to break bones, cause cuts and, worst of all, hurt people's feelings.
Either a little pain now, or death will come. Either for us, or for them.
We need to be rioting.
We need Conservatives to go to jail for vandalism, violence and disruption.
That's not fun. That's not easy.
But if you want to avoid a shooting war, be ready to break bones, cause cuts and, worst of all, hurt people's feelings.
Either a little pain now, or death will come. Either for us, or for them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 06:27 PM (3OIiX)
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No way can I read all that right now, can anyone give me the short version?
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:24 PM (Ot7+c)
Progs suck and are evil. We should stop pretending otherwise.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 06:25 PM (ZgkX
And we are at War with them and we better get used to it and act accordingly
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:24 PM (Ot7+c)
Progs suck and are evil. We should stop pretending otherwise.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 06:25 PM (ZgkX
And we are at War with them and we better get used to it and act accordingly
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:28 PM (SjImc)
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now junior, I'm gonna have a country not in a commie Cultural Revolution, or things are gonna get Awfully Awfully Physical around here.
Posted by: Lord Sir Covfefe at May 31, 2017 06:28 PM (nFwvY)
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I tried fighting them 24/7 but they are literally everywhere and in everything and they. Do. Not. Stop. Ever. As one person, it was just too tiring.
I don't have a solution, but I'm intrigued in organization that leads to concerted effort on one, single front. From that battle, victory and momentum for the next rollback. For ex, the month, our front is boycotts, or pressuring a single University. Cut from the hers, kill it, chalk up a victory for once.
I don't have a solution, but I'm intrigued in organization that leads to concerted effort on one, single front. From that battle, victory and momentum for the next rollback. For ex, the month, our front is boycotts, or pressuring a single University. Cut from the hers, kill it, chalk up a victory for once.
Posted by: Tonic Dog at May 31, 2017 06:28 PM (eud9E)
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I don't get it.
We're winning. Not fast enough for my taste. But we are.
Small scale. Kathy Griffin just blew up her career.
Big scale. Global Warming is about to be declared a hoax by POTUS.
Now is the time to move in and bayonet the survivors.
We're winning. Not fast enough for my taste. But we are.
Small scale. Kathy Griffin just blew up her career.
Big scale. Global Warming is about to be declared a hoax by POTUS.
Now is the time to move in and bayonet the survivors.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 31, 2017 06:28 PM (YEelc)
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Alright Mr. and Ms. Smartypants,
I've got a brand new dollar bill that says you can't read this list of names in one try.
One brand new dollar bill.
SFW
http://tinyurl.com/y8s4tc3b
I've got a brand new dollar bill that says you can't read this list of names in one try.
One brand new dollar bill.
SFW
http://tinyurl.com/y8s4tc3b
Posted by: weirdflunky at May 31, 2017 06:28 PM (b8+C/)
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For the life of me, I couldn't understand why we weren't passing around photshops of a beheaded Kathy Griffin. Right? Don't bring a knife to a gun fight, for heaven's sake.
How can the SJW's argue that it's wrong or in poor taste? Give it right back I say.
How can the SJW's argue that it's wrong or in poor taste? Give it right back I say.
Posted by: Frankns at May 31, 2017 06:29 PM (y4aiO)
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If leftists are going to be triggered and crying for no good reason... we might as well give them a good reason to cry.
Posted by: wooga at May 31, 2017 06:29 PM (mqHvU)
Posted by: Max Power at May 31, 2017 06:30 PM (q177U)
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Good one, ace. I like "Social Justice Wolves".
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 06:30 PM (sdi6R)
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Yo!
Posted by: Yo! at May 31, 2017 06:30 PM (GwIKd)
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I don't get it.
We're winning. Not fast enough for my taste. But we are.
Small scale. Kathy Griffin just blew up her career.
Big scale. Global Warming is about to be declared a hoax by POTUS.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:26 PM (+7/1f)
We're not winning. Or we haven't won, I should say. We are, with President Trump, finally fighting back.
But mark my words, these little wins here will spawn a bigger, uglier backlash from the Left. If they were going to accept defeat - or worse, that they were wrong - they wouldn't be spewing shit all over the place since the election.
We're winning. Not fast enough for my taste. But we are.
Small scale. Kathy Griffin just blew up her career.
Big scale. Global Warming is about to be declared a hoax by POTUS.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:26 PM (+7/1f)
We're not winning. Or we haven't won, I should say. We are, with President Trump, finally fighting back.
But mark my words, these little wins here will spawn a bigger, uglier backlash from the Left. If they were going to accept defeat - or worse, that they were wrong - they wouldn't be spewing shit all over the place since the election.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 06:30 PM (3OIiX)
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32,
Let me guess - Mennonites?
Let me guess - Mennonites?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 06:30 PM (MINbv)
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Okay, that needed some editing.
"We have to have one law for everyone" right on!
"We can't tolerate a caste system" Yass!
"Act like they do" BOTH FEET ON THE BRAKES!
It's rabbling, a lot of people are going to hear nothing but "let your freak flag fly."
If you don't have to ban people on this thread it'll be a miracle.
"We have to have one law for everyone" right on!
"We can't tolerate a caste system" Yass!
"Act like they do" BOTH FEET ON THE BRAKES!
It's rabbling, a lot of people are going to hear nothing but "let your freak flag fly."
If you don't have to ban people on this thread it'll be a miracle.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 31, 2017 06:30 PM (wB8Tg)
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Olberman is calling for the immediate arrest of Kushner...LMAO
Ya know I went out with girl named Kushner in High School. Saw the Godfather with her the day it opened
Ya know I went out with girl named Kushner in High School. Saw the Godfather with her the day it opened
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:31 PM (SjImc)
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Another idea (ace, post idea).
Out in the states, with all the GOP politicians in office, we should have a "deep bench". We should use that bench against the GOP politicians we send to Washington. If you don't fight 100% from day one, there are 5 other amazing candidates in your state's legislature that wouldn't mind a crack at the big table.
Primary your elected officials hard!!!! Much less risky with the state-level dominance the GOP has now.
Out in the states, with all the GOP politicians in office, we should have a "deep bench". We should use that bench against the GOP politicians we send to Washington. If you don't fight 100% from day one, there are 5 other amazing candidates in your state's legislature that wouldn't mind a crack at the big table.
Primary your elected officials hard!!!! Much less risky with the state-level dominance the GOP has now.
Posted by: Tonic Dog at May 31, 2017 06:31 PM (eud9E)
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Well, I'd like to say "rah! rah! rah!", but I don't know where to begin this encounter.
Outnumbered, you usually are. Just taking a principled stand and saying "no!" to all this nonsense is not nearly enough.
Last winter, I had a dinner time discussion with a 17 year old Know - It -All, who insisted that TRUMP WAS JUST LIKE HITLER! because this guy Robert Spencer was for Trump (out of a nation of 300 million). I gently asked him, if he had ever read "Mein Kampf" and knew what Hitler was really all about, and was actually going to make some small humor about "Mein Kampf" being just like "The Art of the Deal", but he was not to be trifled with.
Too bad he wasn't "age of majority" and 18, because then I could have physically smacked him good , which is what the rude little bastard deserved.
Yes, a generation of monsters is coming. I don't know about any organized resistance from me, but some of them are going to get smacked down hard some day.
Soon.
Outnumbered, you usually are. Just taking a principled stand and saying "no!" to all this nonsense is not nearly enough.
Last winter, I had a dinner time discussion with a 17 year old Know - It -All, who insisted that TRUMP WAS JUST LIKE HITLER! because this guy Robert Spencer was for Trump (out of a nation of 300 million). I gently asked him, if he had ever read "Mein Kampf" and knew what Hitler was really all about, and was actually going to make some small humor about "Mein Kampf" being just like "The Art of the Deal", but he was not to be trifled with.
Too bad he wasn't "age of majority" and 18, because then I could have physically smacked him good , which is what the rude little bastard deserved.
Yes, a generation of monsters is coming. I don't know about any organized resistance from me, but some of them are going to get smacked down hard some day.
Soon.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 06:31 PM (RFeQD)
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It only takes one side to declare war...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 06:27 PM
You know there in lies the tale to those who say War is not the answer, you don't always get to choose .
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 06:27 PM
You know there in lies the tale to those who say War is not the answer, you don't always get to choose .
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:31 PM (Ot7+c)
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Of course the enlightened should have more rights than you. What are you? A H8ter?? Looks like you need to "evolve"...
Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 06:32 PM (qJhUV)
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Personally, I have no problem with what Kathy Griffin did. I really don't care what she thinks about anything but I see nothing wrong with anyone expressing that they hate the President or would be happy to see him in that condition.
The problem is not what griffin did, it's that no one was allowed to do anything even remotely like that while Barky was occupooping the Oval Office - and he was a friggin retarded criminal who wasn't even eligible to be in that position.
But if Kathy Griffin likes running around with a fake decapitated head of Trump, I really could not care less.
The problem is not what griffin did, it's that no one was allowed to do anything even remotely like that while Barky was occupooping the Oval Office - and he was a friggin retarded criminal who wasn't even eligible to be in that position.
But if Kathy Griffin likes running around with a fake decapitated head of Trump, I really could not care less.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 06:32 PM (zc3Db)
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How did you guys read all that so quickly??? A lot to chew on there, Ace, but all quite true.
Posted by: IC at May 31, 2017 06:32 PM (a0IVu)
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I went with My boy scout troop to a city council meeting and SJW were there protesting police violence on some street rat. Saw up close and personal the insanity.
Orders received. Start nothing, but give no quarter when engaged.
Orders received. Start nothing, but give no quarter when engaged.
Posted by: Picric at May 31, 2017 06:32 PM (lxGI6)
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You know there in lies the tale to those who say War is not the answer, you don't always get to choose .
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:31 PM (Ot7+c)
Spot on
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:31 PM (Ot7+c)
Spot on
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:32 PM (SjImc)
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Yes, that.
ESPECIAL-EFFING-LY when it's the same. damn. person. saying it.
Griffin was horrified by how rude people were to Obama because of *body language*.
But her "body language" of holding up body parts should have been fine.
One of my favorite Twitter accounts, We Rate Dogs made a funny covfete hat...and declared that the proceeds would go to PP. Now dude realizes that was dumb. But I unfollowed. You want to yell "yea baby killing" then I won't support you, even with one wimpy follow. I don't care that he supports PP, I care that he can't keep that out of cute puppy stuff.
One rolled up newspaper to the nose at a time, I guess.
ESPECIAL-EFFING-LY when it's the same. damn. person. saying it.
Griffin was horrified by how rude people were to Obama because of *body language*.
But her "body language" of holding up body parts should have been fine.
One of my favorite Twitter accounts, We Rate Dogs made a funny covfete hat...and declared that the proceeds would go to PP. Now dude realizes that was dumb. But I unfollowed. You want to yell "yea baby killing" then I won't support you, even with one wimpy follow. I don't care that he supports PP, I care that he can't keep that out of cute puppy stuff.
One rolled up newspaper to the nose at a time, I guess.
Posted by: Mama AJ at May 31, 2017 06:32 PM (wwL6Q)
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So what are the phone #s for the venues of the ugly Griffins' *comedy* tour. I'll stir myself in this one case to call at least one place and announce I'll boycott all of their events unless they cancel her show.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 31, 2017 06:32 PM (eASYU)
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For the life of me, I couldn't understand why we weren't passing around photshops of a beheaded Kathy Griffin. Right? Don't bring a knife to a gun fight, for heaven's sake.
How can the SJW's argue that it's wrong or in poor taste? Give it right back I say.
Posted by: Frankns at May 31, 2017 06:29 PM (y4aiO)
Well, if you cut her head off, it would de-ugly her a little.
How can the SJW's argue that it's wrong or in poor taste? Give it right back I say.
Posted by: Frankns at May 31, 2017 06:29 PM (y4aiO)
Well, if you cut her head off, it would de-ugly her a little.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2017 06:32 PM (7MWCL)
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It'll be a hot summer folks.
Lots of protests about Global Warming.
"The end of the World is coming!"
"Trump is killing us!"
I can't wait.
Just sit back and laugh.
Lots of protests about Global Warming.
"The end of the World is coming!"
"Trump is killing us!"
I can't wait.
Just sit back and laugh.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:33 PM (+7/1f)
Posted by: Under Fire at May 31, 2017 06:33 PM (l4aLi)
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Consider, though, that the left's arrogance was how they were blindsided in the 2016 election. Normal people outwardly submitted to the left's rules and quietly voted for Trump at the poles. I'm not saying this is necessarily the right path moving forward, it's just an observation.
Posted by: Aunt Luna at May 31, 2017 06:33 PM (Zd2ZF)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2017 06:33 PM (x2oyq)
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Amen.
Posted by: Spanky at May 31, 2017 06:33 PM (7K1H3)
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perhaps we will start winning when the rest of the Republicans are more concerned about what Trump wants to do and less about what the mainstream media has to say.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 31, 2017 06:33 PM (ILitO)
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allegedly paying to allegedly learn from. fify
As to the meat of the matter, right on, right on, right on. As the antifa thugs wilted under a show of force, so too shall the snowflakes melt by a true "Resistance". Unfortunately for the latter, the SWJs have the media, education and entertainment (and vote grubbing politicos and self serving administrators and bureaucrats) and too many judges which does not make it a fair fight. That means push back and fight harder for I have had enough of their crap to last me 2 lifetimes.
As to the meat of the matter, right on, right on, right on. As the antifa thugs wilted under a show of force, so too shall the snowflakes melt by a true "Resistance". Unfortunately for the latter, the SWJs have the media, education and entertainment (and vote grubbing politicos and self serving administrators and bureaucrats) and too many judges which does not make it a fair fight. That means push back and fight harder for I have had enough of their crap to last me 2 lifetimes.
Posted by: pissed off oddnot at May 31, 2017 06:33 PM (g1MTt)
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So bowing and scraping to bullies doesn't work?
No way!
They'll learn when you send them home with their teeth in their pocket.
No way!
They'll learn when you send them home with their teeth in their pocket.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 31, 2017 06:34 PM (4ErVI)
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Good post, ace.
Posted by: Methos, warming again to Trump (the Ryan congress, not so much) at May 31, 2017 06:34 PM (3Liv/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:34 PM (SjImc)
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They're pretty dug in at this point. In colleges theres no one brave enough to say no mas. Will they be expelled? No. So what then?
Posted by: MOAB just sayin' at May 31, 2017 06:34 PM (E8apb)
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It is kind of let the crime fit the punishment time. In for a penny, in for a pound and all that. So since it is all damned if you do, damned if you don't then you might as well get some satisfaction out of it all.
Posted by: bored383 at May 31, 2017 06:34 PM (70HTk)
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>>>Consider, though, that the left's arrogance was how they were blindsided in the 2016 election. Normal people outwardly submitted to the left's rules and quietly voted for Trump at the poles. I'm not saying this is necessarily the right path moving forward, it's just an observation.
I'm not saying all is lost. But I am saying it's time give them so much of their own medicine they choke on it.
I'm not saying all is lost. But I am saying it's time give them so much of their own medicine they choke on it.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 06:35 PM (8rNrN)
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But did you like the movie?
Posted by: bluebell at May 31, 2017 06:26 PM (r3yf/) fnord (r3yf/)
Is the cookbook done yet?
Posted by: bluebell at May 31, 2017 06:26 PM (r3yf/) fnord (r3yf/)
Is the cookbook done yet?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 31, 2017 06:35 PM (wB8Tg)
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13 No way can I read all that right now, can anyone give me the short version?
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:24 PM (Ot7+c)
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F*ck you. War.
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:24 PM (Ot7+c)
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F*ck you. War.
Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 06:35 PM (fD1ST)
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"Gandhi's tactics would not have worked had India been colonized by, say, China."
The Dalai Lama, admittedly a wonderful, moral man, dedicated his life to following Ghandi's tactics.
That's why Tibet is now simply another province of China.
The Dalai Lama, admittedly a wonderful, moral man, dedicated his life to following Ghandi's tactics.
That's why Tibet is now simply another province of China.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2017 06:35 PM (QOaYT)
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How did you guys read all that so quickly???
Posted by: IC at May 31, 2017 06:32 PM (a0IVu)
Read what?
Posted by: IC at May 31, 2017 06:32 PM (a0IVu)
Read what?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 06:35 PM (zc3Db)
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Ace - Great. Just great.
Posted by: Spanky at May 31, 2017 06:35 PM (7K1H3)
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Posted by: Under Fire at May 31, 2017 06:33 PM (l4aLi)
Ace's post wasn't a call to violence, but suggesting violence will get you banned.
Ace's post wasn't a call to violence, but suggesting violence will get you banned.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2017 06:35 PM (x2oyq)
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Meanwhile Lewandowski says that Republicans can either unite behind the president or lose the 2018 elections.
"President Trump was elected to change the country ... You can get on board that train or you can lose your next election."
"President Trump was elected to change the country ... You can get on board that train or you can lose your next election."
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:35 PM (+7/1f)
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13 No way can I read all that right now, can anyone give me the short version?
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:24 PM (Ot7+c)
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Oops. I left out one more crucial part.
F*ck you. War. Tit for tat.
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:24 PM (Ot7+c)
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Oops. I left out one more crucial part.
F*ck you. War. Tit for tat.
Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 06:36 PM (fD1ST)
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So just dot them on the nose. It brings real tears when done correctly. Red, red karovvy does flow, oh my brothers.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 31, 2017 06:36 PM (YOP13)
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Four pages on my new 2k monitor!
Posted by: goodluckduck at May 31, 2017 06:36 PM (V8zw+)
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New chant. All we are saying is do what we say. With a side of drums
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at May 31, 2017 06:36 PM (nQHw/)
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66 It is kind of let the crime fit the punishment time. In for a penny, in for a pound and all that. So since it is all damned if you do, damned if you don't then you might as well get some satisfaction out of it all.
Posted by: bored383 at May 31, 2017 06:34 PM (70HTk)
Tit for tat then?
Whats good for the goose...?
Posted by: bored383 at May 31, 2017 06:34 PM (70HTk)
Tit for tat then?
Whats good for the goose...?
Posted by: MOAB just sayin' at May 31, 2017 06:37 PM (E8apb)
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Meanwhile Lewandowski says that Republicans can either unite behind the president or lose the 2018 elections.
"President Trump was elected to change the country ... You can get on board that train or you can lose your next election."
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:35 PM (+7/1f)
He is 100% correct. 110%
"President Trump was elected to change the country ... You can get on board that train or you can lose your next election."
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:35 PM (+7/1f)
He is 100% correct. 110%
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:37 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 06:37 PM (MINbv)
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But if Kathy Griffin likes running around with a fake decapitated head of Trump, I really could not care less.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 06:32 PM (zc3Db)
I am similarly torn. The thing I have loved most about Trump is that he has gotten these ass clowns to take their rubber noses off willingly. They are showing who they are in all their retarded glory- and is what we have suspected they are for the last 30 years.
On the one hand, she should be fired- not for this but because she a deeply unfunny woman whose only qualification is that she is a flaming prog and is 'edgy.'
On the other, by firing her, we are forcing them to consider going underground again. Right now they are vomiting their reality all over us 24/7. It is not an attractive look.
Honestly though, I think a lot of this is not just because of Trump, but that they thought they had achieved final victory with Obama. They are reacting now like the silent majority should have reacted in the 60s- try to stamp out the opposition.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 06:32 PM (zc3Db)
I am similarly torn. The thing I have loved most about Trump is that he has gotten these ass clowns to take their rubber noses off willingly. They are showing who they are in all their retarded glory- and is what we have suspected they are for the last 30 years.
On the one hand, she should be fired- not for this but because she a deeply unfunny woman whose only qualification is that she is a flaming prog and is 'edgy.'
On the other, by firing her, we are forcing them to consider going underground again. Right now they are vomiting their reality all over us 24/7. It is not an attractive look.
Honestly though, I think a lot of this is not just because of Trump, but that they thought they had achieved final victory with Obama. They are reacting now like the silent majority should have reacted in the 60s- try to stamp out the opposition.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 06:37 PM (ZgkX8)
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The Dalai Lama, admittedly a wonderful, moral man, dedicated his life to following Ghandi's tactics.
The dalai lama is a pos douchebag asshole.
The dalai lama is a pos douchebag asshole.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 06:37 PM (zc3Db)
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It sounds like Ace sees the real reason the Left is upset:
The Left is upset not because they're afraid they'll lose their basic civil rights under Trump; because they're angry that You and I will retain our basic civil rights under Trump.
It sounds like Ace sees the real reason the Left is upset:
The Left is upset not because they're afraid they'll lose their basic civil rights under Trump; because they're angry that You and I will retain our basic civil rights under Trump.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 06:38 PM (rAqYf)
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The Left is pissed that we're still free for the next 4 years.
The Left is pissed that we're still free for the next 4 years.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 06:38 PM (rAqYf)
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My "How Many More?" t shirts were done today. It applies to so many current situations.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2017 06:39 PM (XQvbv)
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It sounds like Ace sees the real reason the Left is upset:
The Left is upset not because they're afraid they'll lose their basic civil rights under Trump; because they're angry that You and I will retain our basic civil rights under Trump.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 06:38 PM (rAqYf)
I'd agree that this is fundamentally true.
The Left is upset not because they're afraid they'll lose their basic civil rights under Trump; because they're angry that You and I will retain our basic civil rights under Trump.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 06:38 PM (rAqYf)
I'd agree that this is fundamentally true.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 06:39 PM (ZgkX8)
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This is going to be a long war.
Look how long the Left took to get to this point. In the early 1970's they were getting arrested for occupying the universities.
By the 80's they were teaching at the universities.
By the 90's, they were giving you Title 9, good and hard and taking over the grade schools.
The Right is either going to have to commit to long term Pro-Constitution revolutionary war.
Or it is going to lose. And, BEST CASE, in losing soak the country in American blood.
Look how long the Left took to get to this point. In the early 1970's they were getting arrested for occupying the universities.
By the 80's they were teaching at the universities.
By the 90's, they were giving you Title 9, good and hard and taking over the grade schools.
The Right is either going to have to commit to long term Pro-Constitution revolutionary war.
Or it is going to lose. And, BEST CASE, in losing soak the country in American blood.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 06:39 PM (3OIiX)
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If you don't have to ban people on this thread it'll be a miracle.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 31, 2017 06:30 PM (wB8Tg)
That's part of the problem right there, that a blog owner feels compelled to police the comments or face "consequences".
Even saying something we all know to be true could be grounds for banning in some circumstances.
If you don't have to ban people on this thread it'll be a miracle.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 31, 2017 06:30 PM (wB8Tg)
That's part of the problem right there, that a blog owner feels compelled to police the comments or face "consequences".
Even saying something we all know to be true could be grounds for banning in some circumstances.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 06:39 PM (sdi6R)
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"Ace's post wasn't a call to violence, "
Seemed pretty close to me. Else it's a call ... to what exactly?
Seemed pretty close to me. Else it's a call ... to what exactly?
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:39 PM (+7/1f)
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Great article Ace.
Despite all of Trumps problems, you have to admit this is the first time in a while we are throwing punches back.
Despite all of Trumps problems, you have to admit this is the first time in a while we are throwing punches back.
Posted by: xanax at May 31, 2017 06:39 PM (XHucz)
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It sounds like Ace sees the real reason the Left is upset:
The Left is upset not because they're afraid they'll lose their basic civil rights under Trump; because they're angry that You and I will retain our basic civil rights under Trump.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 06:38 PM (rAqYf)
Yes. they saw it all in Hillary. Finally we get whats coming to us. They felt our necks under their boots and now...this. They cant handle it.
It sounds like Ace sees the real reason the Left is upset:
The Left is upset not because they're afraid they'll lose their basic civil rights under Trump; because they're angry that You and I will retain our basic civil rights under Trump.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 06:38 PM (rAqYf)
Yes. they saw it all in Hillary. Finally we get whats coming to us. They felt our necks under their boots and now...this. They cant handle it.
Posted by: MOAB just sayin' at May 31, 2017 06:40 PM (E8apb)
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I've got a brand new dollar bill that says you can't read this list of names in one try.
I did it, but i volunteered for years at our local emergency assistance program, so unfair advantage. The hard part? Guessing the spelling when someone simply tells you their name.
I've got a brand new dollar bill that says you can't read this list of names in one try.
I did it, but i volunteered for years at our local emergency assistance program, so unfair advantage. The hard part? Guessing the spelling when someone simply tells you their name.
Posted by: Sal at May 31, 2017 06:40 PM (hA4a+)
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Anybody want to take orders for "Resist The Resistance" t-shirts/hats?
Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2017 06:40 PM (s5o+q)
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I can't even take the whole thing seriously. The left goes nuts and seeks to destroy people over the most trivial things. Sarah Palin uses iconography resembling the sight from a scope to make a political point and the left acts like she was advocating people actually shooting those people. Ridiculous on its face. Not even the people making the accusation could have actually believed it.
Now we have Kathy Griffin holding up a blood-dripping severed head made to represent Donald Trump, and after some halfhearted tsk-tsking by the lefty media, she looses a gig that was only for one night a year anyway.
I'm not bothered that she lost the gig, but the whole thing is just lame. Get back to me once we start taking some real scalps.
Now we have Kathy Griffin holding up a blood-dripping severed head made to represent Donald Trump, and after some halfhearted tsk-tsking by the lefty media, she looses a gig that was only for one night a year anyway.
I'm not bothered that she lost the gig, but the whole thing is just lame. Get back to me once we start taking some real scalps.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 31, 2017 06:40 PM (R+30W)
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>>>It sounds like Ace sees the real reason the Left is upset:
The Left is upset not because they're afraid they'll lose their basic civil rights under Trump; because they're angry that You and I will retain our basic civil rights under Trump.
...
yup. seems to be a case of the psychological root often claimed to underlie all racism: For marginal people to feel superior, they must create a lower caste to feel superior to.
The Left is upset not because they're afraid they'll lose their basic civil rights under Trump; because they're angry that You and I will retain our basic civil rights under Trump.
...
yup. seems to be a case of the psychological root often claimed to underlie all racism: For marginal people to feel superior, they must create a lower caste to feel superior to.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 06:41 PM (8rNrN)
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Movie review long and worth every second of reading.
It helps that I agree with it.
Thanks ace.
Now back to the previously scheduled lurking.
It helps that I agree with it.
Thanks ace.
Now back to the previously scheduled lurking.
Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at May 31, 2017 06:41 PM (GWVcB)
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I don;t know if this breaks the forum's rules, but watching that video of black students surrounding a white teacher and screaming racist nonsense about black power, I do think we're eventually going to have real violence that goes beyond #hashtags.
Posted by: xanax at May 31, 2017 06:41 PM (XHucz)
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Ace, I agree 100%, I just wonder if we can possibly win since even if we start to fight, we're mostly fighting on their terms. We're largely averse to censorship and depriving people of their freedoms, whereas the left is either inured to it or actively enjoys it.
But we can no longer cede ground just because we know deep down that this is a nasty game we're being forced to play - it's still better than forfeiting.
But we can no longer cede ground just because we know deep down that this is a nasty game we're being forced to play - it's still better than forfeiting.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at May 31, 2017 06:41 PM (H8Wgz)
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We need to have our own long march through the institutions
Journalism, movies, TV, music, foundations, academia, and corporations.
Journalism, movies, TV, music, foundations, academia, and corporations.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 06:41 PM (Ri/rl)
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No Mas!
Posted by: dantesed at May 31, 2017 06:41 PM (88xKn)
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I fear that the leftist radical culture is pushing us to a place where the beatdowns start. The majority in this nation is very patient and tolerant, very willing to let things slide and turn the other cheek. We fear what we can do. We do not want to turn society into what these guys seem to be longing for.
They are children who never grew up, and if they don't ever get better by time and the usual pressures of maturation, when will they? Most folks get along fine. Its just the small loud, influential number that will not and cannot. I really don't think they comprehend math, or if they do, they reject it for their preferred reality, the world they substitute in their minds as better.
I am searching my mind and history and cannot come up with an equivalent situation or series of events. Never before can I think of a time when a small, stupid, loud, and childish segment got so obnoxious, even violent as if they are in charge.
They are children who never grew up, and if they don't ever get better by time and the usual pressures of maturation, when will they? Most folks get along fine. Its just the small loud, influential number that will not and cannot. I really don't think they comprehend math, or if they do, they reject it for their preferred reality, the world they substitute in their minds as better.
I am searching my mind and history and cannot come up with an equivalent situation or series of events. Never before can I think of a time when a small, stupid, loud, and childish segment got so obnoxious, even violent as if they are in charge.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2017 06:41 PM (39g3+)
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"Ace's post wasn't a call to violence, "
Seemed pretty close to me. Else it's a call ... to what exactly?
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:39 PM (+7/1f)
To defend ourselves, To stand up for what we believe in and not just to go along to get along, to take an aggressive intellectual offensive response to take our fight to the enemy. It was not a call to shoot anyone in the face
Seemed pretty close to me. Else it's a call ... to what exactly?
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:39 PM (+7/1f)
To defend ourselves, To stand up for what we believe in and not just to go along to get along, to take an aggressive intellectual offensive response to take our fight to the enemy. It was not a call to shoot anyone in the face
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:42 PM (SjImc)
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All you need to know about the present state of our society is that the scuffle in Montana was grossly exaggerated and got wall-to-wall media coverage on election day while a physical by a Donc in Texas on a representative was barely covered and when mentioned was described by CNN as democracy in action
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fart Leader at May 31, 2017 06:42 PM (Nwg0u)
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I'm not bothered that she lost the gig, but the whole thing is just lame. Get back to me once we start taking some real scalps.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 31, 2017 06:40 PM (R+30W)
She also lost the squatty potty gig. Which is sad- she was made to be poop duchess.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 31, 2017 06:40 PM (R+30W)
She also lost the squatty potty gig. Which is sad- she was made to be poop duchess.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 06:43 PM (ZgkX8)
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That's why Tibet is now simply another province of China.
Posted by: Tom Servo
There was a lot more than just passive resistance to the Chinese when they entered Tibet.
But China is a massive land power, and Tibet is a small landlocked country. We could not pull our Navy up to the door and do something. The CIA actually ran covert Ops for years with willing Tibetans, but now, it really is TOO LATE. The Chinese have completed a railroad line into Tibet, and it's a Theme Park visit for the casual Buddhist Chinese. I've know several Chinese who blithely talked about how COOL it would be to visit Tibet, now. And the Chinese will out breed the Tibetans, and in 25 years, Tibet WILL be Chinese. And then, so what?
Analogous, the "conservatives" (whatever that is these days) are going to be cornered by the upcoming Progressive Angry Babies, and it will get ugly down right soon.
I don't really know our numbers. I know some Jacksonian Democrats that voted for Trump, because frankly, 8 years of Obama and then Hillary turned their stomachs, and Trump wasn't the typical nauseating Republican, to them.
My BiL, who is actually quite a nice guy, thought Ted Cruz was a cross of Richard Nixon and Joe McCarthy.
It was funny coming from him, but that's how some people view the world.
Posted by: Tom Servo
There was a lot more than just passive resistance to the Chinese when they entered Tibet.
But China is a massive land power, and Tibet is a small landlocked country. We could not pull our Navy up to the door and do something. The CIA actually ran covert Ops for years with willing Tibetans, but now, it really is TOO LATE. The Chinese have completed a railroad line into Tibet, and it's a Theme Park visit for the casual Buddhist Chinese. I've know several Chinese who blithely talked about how COOL it would be to visit Tibet, now. And the Chinese will out breed the Tibetans, and in 25 years, Tibet WILL be Chinese. And then, so what?
Analogous, the "conservatives" (whatever that is these days) are going to be cornered by the upcoming Progressive Angry Babies, and it will get ugly down right soon.
I don't really know our numbers. I know some Jacksonian Democrats that voted for Trump, because frankly, 8 years of Obama and then Hillary turned their stomachs, and Trump wasn't the typical nauseating Republican, to them.
My BiL, who is actually quite a nice guy, thought Ted Cruz was a cross of Richard Nixon and Joe McCarthy.
It was funny coming from him, but that's how some people view the world.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 06:43 PM (RFeQD)
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Seemed pretty close to me. Else it's a call ... to what exactly?
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:39 PM (+7/1f)
Make your enemy live up to his own rules.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:39 PM (+7/1f)
Make your enemy live up to his own rules.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 06:43 PM (Ri/rl)
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The pendulum always swings both ways. There is finally pushback and it's been a long time coming, but once you light a torch that sucker is going to burn.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2017 06:44 PM (XQvbv)
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Else it's a call ... to what exactly?"
Not be nice. Someone gets in your face, don't lie down in the false hope they will stop.
Personally, I don't always relish it, but I have no compunction against pointing out idiocy.
And pointing while laughing...
Not be nice. Someone gets in your face, don't lie down in the false hope they will stop.
Personally, I don't always relish it, but I have no compunction against pointing out idiocy.
And pointing while laughing...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 06:44 PM (MINbv)
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Make your enemy live up to his own rules.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 06:43 PM (Ri/rl)
They have only one rule: There are no rules
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 06:43 PM (Ri/rl)
They have only one rule: There are no rules
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:44 PM (SjImc)
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One big advantage the Left often has is your average conservative has "something to lose" whereas most of the Monster Babies (love that term btw) don't.
And so we do self-censor ourselves because we don;t want to lose our jobs, not be able to pay the mortgage, have our kids face consequences, etc from fighting back.
And so we do self-censor ourselves because we don;t want to lose our jobs, not be able to pay the mortgage, have our kids face consequences, etc from fighting back.
Posted by: xanax at May 31, 2017 06:44 PM (XHucz)
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The Marxists were brilliant: They gave the losers someone to hate.
The Capitalists.
The Bourgeoisie.
The Patriarchy.
The Cis-Genders Het White Males.
The Capitalists.
The Bourgeoisie.
The Patriarchy.
The Cis-Genders Het White Males.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 06:44 PM (3OIiX)
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Hillary called us deplorable and everyone picked up that. In the same speech she also stated that we are irredeemable, which is much worse.
Posted by: Cosda at May 31, 2017 06:45 PM (r1Yud)
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Whats all this about a War on Tits?
Fight back I say! Unleash the boobies, unbind the funbags, show the antititties who's boss by releasing the twin peaks!
Whats all this about a War on Tits?
Fight back I say! Unleash the boobies, unbind the funbags, show the antititties who's boss by releasing the twin peaks!
Posted by: Kathy Scruntdrip at May 31, 2017 06:45 PM (pchgp)
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Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 31, 2017 06:40 PM (R+30W)
I think that's her only tv gig at this point.
I don't know I don't watch television so maybe she's on some crappy reality retard show or something.
She sure came out with that I so sorry video fast though.
I think that's her only tv gig at this point.
I don't know I don't watch television so maybe she's on some crappy reality retard show or something.
She sure came out with that I so sorry video fast though.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 31, 2017 06:45 PM (4ErVI)
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But Trump man handled some Montenegro leader or something- very rude -must be seen to be believed -just ask
Michael Totten -
I used to think Totten was sensible - now I see he is just another lefty that travels alot, (and he is honest about Cuba.)
Michael Totten -
I used to think Totten was sensible - now I see he is just another lefty that travels alot, (and he is honest about Cuba.)
Posted by: Glenn John at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (LilNs)
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"Ace's post wasn't a call to violence, "
Seemed pretty close to me. Else it's a call ... to what exactly?
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:39 PM (+7/1f)
To defend ourselves, To stand up for what we believe in and not just to go along to get along, to take an aggressive intellectual offensive response to take our fight to the enemy. It was not a call to shoot anyone in the face
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:42 PM (SjImc)
Agreed.
We aren't there yet.
But I can see it from here.
Seemed pretty close to me. Else it's a call ... to what exactly?
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:39 PM (+7/1f)
To defend ourselves, To stand up for what we believe in and not just to go along to get along, to take an aggressive intellectual offensive response to take our fight to the enemy. It was not a call to shoot anyone in the face
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:42 PM (SjImc)
Agreed.
We aren't there yet.
But I can see it from here.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (3OIiX)
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Evergreen State Kindergarten was a worthless shithole before this latest BLM ashattery began. If they are forced to close their doors, no actual students (or professors) will be inconvenienced.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (7MWCL)
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Hillary called us deplorable and everyone picked up that. In the same speech she also stated that we are irredeemable, which is much worse.
Posted by: Cosda at May 31, 2017 06:45 PM (r1Yud)
Personally I would wear both "deplorable" and "Irredeemable" as badges of honor...but then that's just me
Posted by: Cosda at May 31, 2017 06:45 PM (r1Yud)
Personally I would wear both "deplorable" and "Irredeemable" as badges of honor...but then that's just me
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (SjImc)
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Its all hearts and flowers and be nice to others... right up until they affect you personally.
I never even thought about Race growing up... it wasn't even part of my worldview that it was important...
Right up until I had people with worse records than I had, and less experience... and less knowledge... getting promoted above me in the Military because of affirmative action....
I was legally discriminated against because I was a White Male.
Guess what.... after a few years of that? Yes... I pay attention to race now.
I also in my youth, never cared about border security or the amount of Hispanics... and I grew up in Central California....
BUT, the demographics of the central Valley have changed to the point where you can't get a normal job here unless you are bilingual... ie... its personal..... and I am now an advocate for strong borders because they are NOT assimilating...
When philosophy, or National Policy, becomes PERSONAL... it WILL change your outlook...
I never even thought about Race growing up... it wasn't even part of my worldview that it was important...
Right up until I had people with worse records than I had, and less experience... and less knowledge... getting promoted above me in the Military because of affirmative action....
I was legally discriminated against because I was a White Male.
Guess what.... after a few years of that? Yes... I pay attention to race now.
I also in my youth, never cared about border security or the amount of Hispanics... and I grew up in Central California....
BUT, the demographics of the central Valley have changed to the point where you can't get a normal job here unless you are bilingual... ie... its personal..... and I am now an advocate for strong borders because they are NOT assimilating...
When philosophy, or National Policy, becomes PERSONAL... it WILL change your outlook...
Posted by: Don Q. at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (NgKpN)
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Look how long the Left took to get to this point. In the early 1970's
they were getting arrested for occupying the universities.
My father said it back then. "See these assholes? Someday they'll be running the country if it doesn't wise up. You remember I said that."
I remember he said that. And we didn't wise up.
they were getting arrested for occupying the universities.
My father said it back then. "See these assholes? Someday they'll be running the country if it doesn't wise up. You remember I said that."
I remember he said that. And we didn't wise up.
Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (qJhUV)
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The Left is upset not because they're afraid they'll lose their basic civil rights under Trump; because they're angry that You and I will retain our basic civil rights under Trump.
That appears to be the basic concern they have. They're angry because they don't have the power to crush us and destroy our culture. They frame it in terms of rights and humanity, because that's how they've been taught to think: they are good and just so what they want is good, and anyone who disagrees is therefor by definiton bad.
That appears to be the basic concern they have. They're angry because they don't have the power to crush us and destroy our culture. They frame it in terms of rights and humanity, because that's how they've been taught to think: they are good and just so what they want is good, and anyone who disagrees is therefor by definiton bad.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (39g3+)
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For marginal people to feel superior, they must create a lower caste to feel superior to.
Their Utopia wouldn't be complete without a permanent underclass to guide as their benevolent overseeers.
For marginal people to feel superior, they must create a lower caste to feel superior to.
Their Utopia wouldn't be complete without a permanent underclass to guide as their benevolent overseeers.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (rAqYf)
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Gandhi's tactics would not have worked had India been colonized by, say, China.
Very astute and correct.
Oh, and BTW, Ghandi was a gun lover.
Very astute and correct.
Oh, and BTW, Ghandi was a gun lover.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (gqTYw)
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They have only one rule: There are no rules
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:44 PM (SjImc)
Maybe we need to rewrite Alinsky's rule.
Make your enemies live up to the rules they impose on their enemies but don't follow themselves.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:44 PM (SjImc)
Maybe we need to rewrite Alinsky's rule.
Make your enemies live up to the rules they impose on their enemies but don't follow themselves.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (Ri/rl)
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I think I have done my part in this war, I'm old disabled and mostly irrelevant culturally. My two early 20's kids are sick and tired of this shit. They both voted Trump and will not put up with this behavior. Both are Catholic mostly conservative pro life, pro gun good kids.
Posted by: USNtakim at May 31, 2017 06:47 PM (zZWkn)
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Michael Totten makes me sad. He went Never Trump hard.
I supported his Kickstarters, bought his books for years. Now I can't read him. I can't trust his writing. I don't enjoy his writing.
Sad.
I supported his Kickstarters, bought his books for years. Now I can't read him. I can't trust his writing. I don't enjoy his writing.
Sad.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 06:47 PM (3OIiX)
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We shall have One Law in this country, or none at all.
You sound....resolute. Wars have begun over statements like that. I'm right there with ya.
You sound....resolute. Wars have begun over statements like that. I'm right there with ya.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 06:47 PM (Xr2/U)
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"Hillary called us deplorable and everyone picked up that. In the same speech she also stated that we are irredeemable, which is much worse."
And it's one of several things that, on the margin, cost her the election.
I'm not offended that she considers me irredeemable.
I think it's hilarious, actually.
And it's one of several things that, on the margin, cost her the election.
I'm not offended that she considers me irredeemable.
I think it's hilarious, actually.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:47 PM (+7/1f)
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I think ace is a good writer and if he wanted to write a call to violence he would make it clear, unambiguous, and less than 5,000 words.
Okay, it would still be 5,000 words.
Okay, it would still be 5,000 words.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at May 31, 2017 06:47 PM (H8Wgz)
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I think I have done my part in this war, I'm old disabled and mostly irrelevant culturally. My two early 20's kids are sick and tired of this shit. They both voted Trump and will not put up with this behavior. Both are Catholic mostly conservative pro life, pro gun good kids.
Posted by: USNtakim at May 31, 2017 06:47 PM (zZWkn)
Yup you did your job and did it well.
Posted by: USNtakim at May 31, 2017 06:47 PM (zZWkn)
Yup you did your job and did it well.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:48 PM (SjImc)
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a picture of someone holding up the bloody heads of baracky and hillarity might be fun to post about now.
Posted by: newrouter at May 31, 2017 06:48 PM (6HXF0)
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One small moment in the campaign that I think resonated much larger was when Trump was having those rallies and people were always starting trouble.
I remember an older biker dude punching some black agitator and dropping him like a sack of potatoes.
I could tell that REALLY messed with the Left's psyche, we were supposed to be punching bags, especially white people in the face of angry black people. We were just supposed to take our beat down.
I remember an older biker dude punching some black agitator and dropping him like a sack of potatoes.
I could tell that REALLY messed with the Left's psyche, we were supposed to be punching bags, especially white people in the face of angry black people. We were just supposed to take our beat down.
Posted by: xanax at May 31, 2017 06:48 PM (XHucz)
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"100
We need to have our own long march through the institutions
Journalism, movies, TV, music, foundations, academia, and corporations"
Too late, it's not going to work for us. Too much institutional resistance, which the left never had to face.
We are going to have to take actions which lead to the destruction of all of those institutions, bit by bit. And then hope that completely new institutions rise to take their place.
Our task is one of destruction, that's the part of the war we've come to. On the plus side, almost every institution you named is already either dead or dying. Take the music industry, for example - it is just tottering along as a dying husk of what it used to be. It has no more truly creative people left in it, just dancers and prancers and no talent ho's. Same could be said for "journalism", as far as that goes.
We need to have our own long march through the institutions
Journalism, movies, TV, music, foundations, academia, and corporations"
Too late, it's not going to work for us. Too much institutional resistance, which the left never had to face.
We are going to have to take actions which lead to the destruction of all of those institutions, bit by bit. And then hope that completely new institutions rise to take their place.
Our task is one of destruction, that's the part of the war we've come to. On the plus side, almost every institution you named is already either dead or dying. Take the music industry, for example - it is just tottering along as a dying husk of what it used to be. It has no more truly creative people left in it, just dancers and prancers and no talent ho's. Same could be said for "journalism", as far as that goes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2017 06:48 PM (QOaYT)
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$hit just got real. Subpoenas are out form the House Intel Committee and Rice is on the hook for the unmasking per Town hall.
Does anyone wonder now why huma took back carlos danger and did not divorce him? Spouses can't be compelled to testify against each other.
Does anyone wonder now why huma took back carlos danger and did not divorce him? Spouses can't be compelled to testify against each other.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 31, 2017 06:49 PM (le7jz)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 06:49 PM (MINbv)
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They're angry because they don't have the power to crush us and destroy our culture.
Their Regulatory Oversight over our lives has been halted and they can't cope.
They're angry because they don't have the power to crush us and destroy our culture.
Their Regulatory Oversight over our lives has been halted and they can't cope.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 06:49 PM (rAqYf)
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128 We shall have One Law in this country, or none at all.
You sound....resolute. Wars have begun over statements like that. I'm right there with ya.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 06:47 PM (Xr2/U)
Well... the Revolutionary War pretty much started when the Brits tried to enforce their Anti Gun Laws.... which led to Bunker and Breed's Hill...
You sound....resolute. Wars have begun over statements like that. I'm right there with ya.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 06:47 PM (Xr2/U)
Well... the Revolutionary War pretty much started when the Brits tried to enforce their Anti Gun Laws.... which led to Bunker and Breed's Hill...
Posted by: Don Q. at May 31, 2017 06:49 PM (NgKpN)
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Anyone else here from Houston planning on going to Hermann Park on June 10th?
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 06:49 PM (jl269)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 31, 2017 06:50 PM (TwwWO)
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A repost on point:
"Alinksy, you magnificent bastard! I read your book!"
Rule 4: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
This has proven the hardest rule to turn tables on the Left, because they're happy to wallow in hypocrisy.
Another from back in October:
Alinksy, you magnificent bastard! I read your book!"
D. Trump
Rule 5: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It's hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.
Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. "If your people aren't having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic."
How can MSM not cover a story involving Anthony Weiner? He's comedy gold.
Hillary will be made to look ridiculous, and a person in her position can't look ridiculous.
For ten days Trump gets to say how can we elect someone under FBI investigation. How can we let this Freak Show back in the White House.
"Alinksy, you magnificent bastard! I read your book!"
Rule 4: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
This has proven the hardest rule to turn tables on the Left, because they're happy to wallow in hypocrisy.
Another from back in October:
Alinksy, you magnificent bastard! I read your book!"
D. Trump
Rule 5: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It's hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.
Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. "If your people aren't having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic."
How can MSM not cover a story involving Anthony Weiner? He's comedy gold.
Hillary will be made to look ridiculous, and a person in her position can't look ridiculous.
For ten days Trump gets to say how can we elect someone under FBI investigation. How can we let this Freak Show back in the White House.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:50 PM (+7/1f)
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Make your enemies live up to the rules they impose on their enemies but don't follow themselves.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (Ri/rl)
Never. Just by trying to impose the left's own anti-human rules on themselves you lend credibility to those rules. The last thing you want to do is lend credibility to ANYTHING the left wants.
Just make the left live up to normal rules - which they can't do ... because they're lowlife, douchebag, nihilistic leftist pieces of shit. Give no credence or respectability to any of their rules.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (Ri/rl)
Never. Just by trying to impose the left's own anti-human rules on themselves you lend credibility to those rules. The last thing you want to do is lend credibility to ANYTHING the left wants.
Just make the left live up to normal rules - which they can't do ... because they're lowlife, douchebag, nihilistic leftist pieces of shit. Give no credence or respectability to any of their rules.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 06:50 PM (zc3Db)
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"I always knew it would be delicious. I never knew it would be THIS delicious." -- Dennis Miller
Posted by: Wontsubmit at May 31, 2017 06:50 PM (122Gu)
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Superb post, Ace. Just wish your audience was larger than the likes of us.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 31, 2017 06:50 PM (+tKYk)
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This nation has been enabling Toddlerism for a few short decades now and this is the end result: Tantrumism.
These full-sized, intellectual infants have fully out-sized expectations and narcissism. They will not be pacified by normal restraints typically possessed by classically normal adults.
I'm glad to see you, Ace, placing a clarion call.
These full-sized, intellectual infants have fully out-sized expectations and narcissism. They will not be pacified by normal restraints typically possessed by classically normal adults.
I'm glad to see you, Ace, placing a clarion call.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 31, 2017 06:51 PM (H8S+R)
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121 Look how long the Left took to get to this point. In the early 1970's
they were getting arrested for occupying the universities.
My father said it back then. "See these assholes? Someday they'll be running the country if it doesn't wise up. You remember I said that."
I remember he said that. And we didn't wise up.
Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (qJhUV)
Absolutely correct.
It's not so much that we didn't "wise up" as much as we didn't want to go Civil War. We didn't think it would come to that point.
That time has passed. We're out of time.
they were getting arrested for occupying the universities.
My father said it back then. "See these assholes? Someday they'll be running the country if it doesn't wise up. You remember I said that."
I remember he said that. And we didn't wise up.
Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 06:46 PM (qJhUV)
Absolutely correct.
It's not so much that we didn't "wise up" as much as we didn't want to go Civil War. We didn't think it would come to that point.
That time has passed. We're out of time.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 06:51 PM (gqTYw)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 06:51 PM (MINbv)
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The only way to stop the monster is to burn its institutions to the ground.
The monsters control everything. Education. Communication. Religion. Bureaucracy. Finance.
Vive la Revolution?
The monsters control everything. Education. Communication. Religion. Bureaucracy. Finance.
Vive la Revolution?
Posted by: 13times at May 31, 2017 06:51 PM (WHVu+)
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Is this some sort of Foreign Film Review?
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2017 06:51 PM (/jDGf)
150
Am I out of the bot-barrel yet?
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 31, 2017 06:51 PM (zS462)
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 06:52 PM (DQ4Fv)
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Else it's a call ... to what exactly?
When they call you a dumbass, you say
"Well, double dumbass on you!"
When they call you a dumbass, you say
"Well, double dumbass on you!"
Posted by: James T. Kirk, people person at May 31, 2017 06:52 PM (3Liv/)
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The only way to stop the monster is to burn its institutions to the ground.
The monsters control everything. Education. Communication. Religion. Bureaucracy. Finance.
Vive la Revolution?
Posted by: 13times at May 31, 2017 06:51 PM (WHVu+)
START with taking federal money away from the schools unless they stick to teaching redin, writin, and rithmatic
The monsters control everything. Education. Communication. Religion. Bureaucracy. Finance.
Vive la Revolution?
Posted by: 13times at May 31, 2017 06:51 PM (WHVu+)
START with taking federal money away from the schools unless they stick to teaching redin, writin, and rithmatic
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:52 PM (SjImc)
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I never heard of Evergreen College nor of the kefuffle there.
What set them off? What are they trying to remedy?
(Also, why does anyone not of the mob continue to want to teach or study there?)
What set them off? What are they trying to remedy?
(Also, why does anyone not of the mob continue to want to teach or study there?)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2017 06:52 PM (gIRsn)
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When philosophy, or National Policy, becomes PERSONAL... it WILL change your outlook...
Posted by: Don Q.
This is where my Jacksonian Democrat people are.
And by the way, the "Jacksonian Democrats" I know would also probably be called "hillbillies" by the Nomenklatura. They were rank and file Democrat voters, who puked that all up last November. Which is a large part of the reason that Hillary got schlonged! in Ohio.
Posted by: Don Q.
This is where my Jacksonian Democrat people are.
And by the way, the "Jacksonian Democrats" I know would also probably be called "hillbillies" by the Nomenklatura. They were rank and file Democrat voters, who puked that all up last November. Which is a large part of the reason that Hillary got schlonged! in Ohio.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 06:52 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: RIP Oderus at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (/jDGf)
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I'm free! Free at last! Wooo!
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (zS462)
158
hillary clinton campaigned on "going after" this one and "going after" that one.
She literally used the phrase "go after." And she meant it. And her supporters wanted exactly that.
hillary clinton campaigned on "going after" this one and "going after" that one.
She literally used the phrase "go after." And she meant it. And her supporters wanted exactly that.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (rAqYf)
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126 I think I have done my part in this war, I'm old disabled and mostly irrelevant culturally. My two early 20's kids are sick and tired of this shit. They both voted Trump and will not put up with this behavior. Both are Catholic mostly conservative pro life, pro gun good kids.
Posted by: USNtakim at May 31, 2017 06:47 PM (zZWkn)
Good for you. We sent our boy to college a conservative and he returned brainwashed. I want a refund.
We put him to work on the ranch. His first job was digging holes with a shovel 10 hours a day 6 days a week. We are trying to teach him through experience how wrong he is.
I tell him to tell his supervisor about his Masters degree. He doesn't think I'm funny.
Posted by: USNtakim at May 31, 2017 06:47 PM (zZWkn)
Good for you. We sent our boy to college a conservative and he returned brainwashed. I want a refund.
We put him to work on the ranch. His first job was digging holes with a shovel 10 hours a day 6 days a week. We are trying to teach him through experience how wrong he is.
I tell him to tell his supervisor about his Masters degree. He doesn't think I'm funny.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (Ri/rl)
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That shalt not lie with a feminist as you would a woman, for to do so is covfefe.
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (DQ4Fv)
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START with taking federal money away from the schools unless they stick to teaching redin, writin, and rithmatic
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:52 PM (SjImc)
Just stop with federal money to the schools, at all. The feds have no business mucking around in schools. They are state responsibilities.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:52 PM (SjImc)
Just stop with federal money to the schools, at all. The feds have no business mucking around in schools. They are state responsibilities.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (zc3Db)
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I'd like to enlist in your division, Ace.
Posted by: booknlass at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (oIc2X)
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Carry. Always.
Posted by: dc at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (oY/R7)
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And yes, ridicule is a wonderful thing. As an aside, I've wondered why it is not so well embraced by the "right" wing...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 06:54 PM (MINbv)
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What's amazing is how "mainstream" the idea that this is going to lead to violence or some sort of national divorce is in these modern times.
I feel decades ago, it was only small groups of nuts that really bought into that, now very "normal" people will concede it's sort of inevitable.
I feel decades ago, it was only small groups of nuts that really bought into that, now very "normal" people will concede it's sort of inevitable.
Posted by: xanax at May 31, 2017 06:54 PM (XHucz)
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Anyone else here from Houston planning on going to Hermann Park on June 10th?
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 06:49 PM (jl269)"
Not from Houston but I heard about it. My guess is that the so-called "Texas Antifa" is actually a joke account set up to try and get a bunch of people to go to Hermann Park that day.
Of course it would be pretty funny if some actual antifa people (are there any in Texas? Really?) actually showed up. Won't be pretty for them.
Anyone else here from Houston planning on going to Hermann Park on June 10th?
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 06:49 PM (jl269)"
Not from Houston but I heard about it. My guess is that the so-called "Texas Antifa" is actually a joke account set up to try and get a bunch of people to go to Hermann Park that day.
Of course it would be pretty funny if some actual antifa people (are there any in Texas? Really?) actually showed up. Won't be pretty for them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2017 06:54 PM (QOaYT)
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Griffin is having a comedy tour this summer. Start a twitter hashtag campaign to boycott TicketMaster unless they stop flogging tickets for her. Call the venue nearest to you and tell them to cancel her show or you will boycott other events. This is what the left does to get people who are much less in the public eye than a CNN regular guest or whatever fired if they make some stupid tasteless joke, I should think this utterly tasteless photo deserves at least equal SWJ type threats to corporations who have anything to do with her.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 31, 2017 06:54 PM (eASYU)
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I never heard of Evergreen College nor of the kefuffle there.
What set them off? What are they trying to remedy?
(Also, why does anyone not of the mob continue to want to teach or study there?)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2017 06:52 PM (gIRsn)
Evergreen State has been a lefty college since the 60's, maybe earlier. They are one of the nastier incubators of the this whole Marxists/SJW movement. No 'grades', lots of mandatory diversity.
If you see someone with this college on their resume, keep one hand on your wallet and the other on your Glock.
What set them off? What are they trying to remedy?
(Also, why does anyone not of the mob continue to want to teach or study there?)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2017 06:52 PM (gIRsn)
Evergreen State has been a lefty college since the 60's, maybe earlier. They are one of the nastier incubators of the this whole Marxists/SJW movement. No 'grades', lots of mandatory diversity.
If you see someone with this college on their resume, keep one hand on your wallet and the other on your Glock.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 06:54 PM (3OIiX)
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The TLDR; version:
The Progressives hold the Commanding Heights of the Culture and make the rules. Conservatives pretending otherwise are suicidally unilaterally disarming. The only possible option for us to change the rules is to make the enemy want to do so, the only weapon at our disposal for that purpose is to insist the rules apply to everyone, including the Progs.
Trying to be morally superior to Holy Warriors for Social Justice, who live to #VirtueSignal their own superiority, was obviously doomed to failure; i.e. it was totally Conservative.
Even shorter version:
#WAR
The Progressives hold the Commanding Heights of the Culture and make the rules. Conservatives pretending otherwise are suicidally unilaterally disarming. The only possible option for us to change the rules is to make the enemy want to do so, the only weapon at our disposal for that purpose is to insist the rules apply to everyone, including the Progs.
Trying to be morally superior to Holy Warriors for Social Justice, who live to #VirtueSignal their own superiority, was obviously doomed to failure; i.e. it was totally Conservative.
Even shorter version:
#WAR
Posted by: John Morris at May 31, 2017 06:54 PM (sCRhB)
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Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2017 06:52 PM (gIRsn)
They were having a day without white people and a professor refused to play along.
Crazy. I'd expel every single student that engaged in this behavior.
They were having a day without white people and a professor refused to play along.
Crazy. I'd expel every single student that engaged in this behavior.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 06:55 PM (Ri/rl)
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That shalt not lie with a feminist as you would a woman, for to do so is covfefe.
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (DQ4Fv)
LOL
Thanks Zombie
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (DQ4Fv)
LOL
Thanks Zombie
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 06:55 PM (3OIiX)
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So this is a foreign movie?
Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 06:25 PM (qJhUV)
Judging from the length.
A black and white Scandi movie.
So this is a foreign movie?
Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 06:25 PM (qJhUV)
Judging from the length.
A black and white Scandi movie.
Posted by: YIKES! at May 31, 2017 06:55 PM (t6XCL)
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Carry. Always.
Posted by: dc at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (oY/R7)
Develop an interest in numismatics. A couple of rolls of commemorative quarters in a sturdy sock...
Posted by: dc at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (oY/R7)
Develop an interest in numismatics. A couple of rolls of commemorative quarters in a sturdy sock...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2017 06:55 PM (7MWCL)
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The left is playing nine-dimensional covfefe, while we sit here thinking it's a game of tic-tac-toe.
Surprisingly, despite this fact, we still win every time.
Surprisingly, despite this fact, we still win every time.
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (DQ4Fv)
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I am not sure how to attack the photographer? who set up that photo. He should never work again either.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (eASYU)
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Geez; Ace just gutted, skinned, and flayed the Left.
It really boils down to is this, the Left has become accustomed to getting their Dane Geld sans cost for decades.
And yes there comes a point where people will say, "no more." And when that happens there will be a backlash and a reckoning that will even make Gozer go "dang who pissed in your Cheerios?"
It really boils down to is this, the Left has become accustomed to getting their Dane Geld sans cost for decades.
And yes there comes a point where people will say, "no more." And when that happens there will be a backlash and a reckoning that will even make Gozer go "dang who pissed in your Cheerios?"
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (GBWQj)
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Yes , it is Fuck you War. Griffin was like Ft, Sumpter.
You fired your most debased fucking shot and you think you can say " My Bad"?
Well Fuck you sister. I look forward to you sucking sewer drainage for sustenance.
You fired your most debased fucking shot and you think you can say " My Bad"?
Well Fuck you sister. I look forward to you sucking sewer drainage for sustenance.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (XQvbv)
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hillary said she'd Go After gun makers, Go After gun owners, Go After Republicans. Go After business owners, Go After Christians, Go After taxpayers, Go After whites, Go After men, Go After haters, ...
hillary said she'd Go After gun makers, Go After gun owners, Go After Republicans. Go After business owners, Go After Christians, Go After taxpayers, Go After whites, Go After men, Go After haters, ...
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (rAqYf)
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>>>hat's amazing is how "mainstream" the idea that this is going to lead to violence or some sort of national divorce is in these modern times.
I feel decades ago, it was only small groups of nuts that really bought into that, now very "normal" people will concede it's sort of inevitable.
...
people i know frequently comment on how routinely they now hear this, from people they never expected to hear it from.
I feel decades ago, it was only small groups of nuts that really bought into that, now very "normal" people will concede it's sort of inevitable.
...
people i know frequently comment on how routinely they now hear this, from people they never expected to hear it from.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (8rNrN)
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I didn't make the rules. I'm just trying to survive them.
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Dear God, Ace. Thank you.
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Dear God, Ace. Thank you.
Posted by: Browncoat formerly known as Mike at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (o38N1)
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The only way to stop the monster is to burn its institutions to the ground.
The monsters control everything. Education. Communication. Religion. Bureaucracy. Finance.
Vive la Revolution?
...and, here we are.
Who is willing to forgo their, currently, comfortable and mostly paid for existence, to go revolutionary?
Not too many, I expect.
The monsters control everything. Education. Communication. Religion. Bureaucracy. Finance.
Vive la Revolution?
...and, here we are.
Who is willing to forgo their, currently, comfortable and mostly paid for existence, to go revolutionary?
Not too many, I expect.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (gqTYw)
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172. Tarkovsky sci-fi flick.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (TwwWO)
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I've scanned the comments & didn't see this so sorry if it's already been said, but...
That's how you got Trump!!
He fights! He fights back against his enemies, he calls them out, he tweets at them 24/7, he never lets someone treat him like a fool.
Enough is enough. A good start would be to get the federal government completely out of the student loan business. Let private companies determine the credit worthiness of a 6-year degree in advanced community organizing. And no bail outs for any more banks/savings&loans/student loan lenders.
That's how you got Trump!!
He fights! He fights back against his enemies, he calls them out, he tweets at them 24/7, he never lets someone treat him like a fool.
Enough is enough. A good start would be to get the federal government completely out of the student loan business. Let private companies determine the credit worthiness of a 6-year degree in advanced community organizing. And no bail outs for any more banks/savings&loans/student loan lenders.
Posted by: Boots at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (EBwPV)
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Bravo!!!!!
Posted by: Tao at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (4Jh9A)
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That time has passed. We're out of time.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 06:51 PM (gqTYw)
Maybe. I tend to think that when the left sees their shit being responded to with derision, and the consistent enforcement of law with real consequences they'll back down. Especially if they perceive the very real threat of defense by violence.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 06:51 PM (gqTYw)
Maybe. I tend to think that when the left sees their shit being responded to with derision, and the consistent enforcement of law with real consequences they'll back down. Especially if they perceive the very real threat of defense by violence.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (Xr2/U)
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My guess is that the so-called "Texas Antifa" is actually a joke account set up to try and get a bunch of people to go to Hermann Park that day. "
Agreed.
Agreed.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (MINbv)
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I'M as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore !
Posted by: The Jackhole at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (M+Lyo)
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And it's one of several things that, on the margin, cost her the election.
I'm not offended that she considers me irredeemable.
I think it's hilarious, actually.
Posted by: Ignoramus
Don't get cocky, kid.
She could run again and win next time.
Or someone worse could do it.
And it's one of several things that, on the margin, cost her the election.
I'm not offended that she considers me irredeemable.
I think it's hilarious, actually.
Posted by: Ignoramus
Don't get cocky, kid.
She could run again and win next time.
Or someone worse could do it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (IqV8l)
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Amen amen and amen.
I will add this. People are sneering at whataboutism, you know, when the Right says well what about when the Left does it. People sneer and say it's childish but it's not.
You know what it is? It's an attempt to determine what the rules are. Because you cannot say that because you are a serf is a rule. So saying what about X is a way of pushing for an answer as to what the rules may be exactly.
I want to know what the rules are so that I can either play by those rules or I can go full Joker on them.
Someone had a point recently that the election of Trump and Brexit are a primal scream by those outside the Credentialed Class that they will NOT be serfs. Because that is what the current system is attempting to reassert, flat out serfdom.
No. No, I am not a serf. I also find it ludicrous that something which someone achieves at the age of 17 or 18, namely getting into an Ivy, determines that they are of Superior Worth.
That's insane and I think needs to be framed in that manner. Oh, you graduated from Haaaaahhhvvaaadd? I'm so sorry that the greatest accomplishment of your life happened when you were in high school, that's so sad, I feel sorry for you. Hmm, you didn't graduate until you are 23 or 24 or whatever? Bless your heart, everyone knows that no one flunks out of an Ivy. *concerned head tilt* Aren't you worried that you have to live another 50 or 60 years without doing anything more worthwhile with your life? Bless your heart.
I don't want this world. My horror at the politicization of All The Things is well known. But here we are.
I've had to watch people I otherwise like say horrible, horrible things about a group that includes me and you know what I think? I don't blame you. After the last 20 odd years of vituperation and, especially, after Memories Pizza, I would hate me too. It's human nature. It *hurts* but it's comprehensible. People pushed will push back. They will. That I am caught in the middle getting shot by all sides is just what it is. (Must. Not. Make. Obvious. Joke. Must. Resist.)
If I can comprehend this about human nature, it must be damn obvious indeed.
I despair, I despair.
I will add this. People are sneering at whataboutism, you know, when the Right says well what about when the Left does it. People sneer and say it's childish but it's not.
You know what it is? It's an attempt to determine what the rules are. Because you cannot say that because you are a serf is a rule. So saying what about X is a way of pushing for an answer as to what the rules may be exactly.
I want to know what the rules are so that I can either play by those rules or I can go full Joker on them.
Someone had a point recently that the election of Trump and Brexit are a primal scream by those outside the Credentialed Class that they will NOT be serfs. Because that is what the current system is attempting to reassert, flat out serfdom.
No. No, I am not a serf. I also find it ludicrous that something which someone achieves at the age of 17 or 18, namely getting into an Ivy, determines that they are of Superior Worth.
That's insane and I think needs to be framed in that manner. Oh, you graduated from Haaaaahhhvvaaadd? I'm so sorry that the greatest accomplishment of your life happened when you were in high school, that's so sad, I feel sorry for you. Hmm, you didn't graduate until you are 23 or 24 or whatever? Bless your heart, everyone knows that no one flunks out of an Ivy. *concerned head tilt* Aren't you worried that you have to live another 50 or 60 years without doing anything more worthwhile with your life? Bless your heart.
I don't want this world. My horror at the politicization of All The Things is well known. But here we are.
I've had to watch people I otherwise like say horrible, horrible things about a group that includes me and you know what I think? I don't blame you. After the last 20 odd years of vituperation and, especially, after Memories Pizza, I would hate me too. It's human nature. It *hurts* but it's comprehensible. People pushed will push back. They will. That I am caught in the middle getting shot by all sides is just what it is. (Must. Not. Make. Obvious. Joke. Must. Resist.)
If I can comprehend this about human nature, it must be damn obvious indeed.
I despair, I despair.
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (dEQP3)
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So, did Ace like the movie?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at May 31, 2017 06:58 PM (Ss6r7)
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I would love to be sure in punishing those that actually deserve it.
One of the frustrating things is the idea that we are supposed to boycott people that didn't do anything in order to indirectly reach someone behind someone who is off to the side of someone who is indirectly connected to someone who is ...... etc.
So, as I see it, much like dickhead-bike-lock-prof, it is time to start ID'ing the little twerps in these videos by name and letting any prospective employers both public and private that we will not take kindly to choosing to employ these little monsters.
Similarly, we should ID their faculty enablers and start going to legislators and others who fund their universities as necessary to push back against the actual villains. Don't cut funding to universities in general -- just eliminate troublesome departments within the university by order of those with the purse strings.
University presidents/staff obviously do not have the ability to do it on their own. It is time to do it for them, and it is time to punish specific bullies directly.
One of the frustrating things is the idea that we are supposed to boycott people that didn't do anything in order to indirectly reach someone behind someone who is off to the side of someone who is indirectly connected to someone who is ...... etc.
So, as I see it, much like dickhead-bike-lock-prof, it is time to start ID'ing the little twerps in these videos by name and letting any prospective employers both public and private that we will not take kindly to choosing to employ these little monsters.
Similarly, we should ID their faculty enablers and start going to legislators and others who fund their universities as necessary to push back against the actual villains. Don't cut funding to universities in general -- just eliminate troublesome departments within the university by order of those with the purse strings.
University presidents/staff obviously do not have the ability to do it on their own. It is time to do it for them, and it is time to punish specific bullies directly.
Posted by: jc at May 31, 2017 06:58 PM (iRJ+A)
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people i know frequently comment on how routinely they now hear this, from people they never expected to hear it from.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (8rNrN)
My best friend and I always had a saying in college *cough* a 'few' years ago: In the end, it'll come down to clubs.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 06:56 PM (8rNrN)
My best friend and I always had a saying in college *cough* a 'few' years ago: In the end, it'll come down to clubs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 06:58 PM (ZgkX8)
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The name of the movie ace is reviewing here is:
FYNQ, These Heads Ain't Gonna Crack Themselves!
Also, from the Is There Anything Islamic Terrorism Can't Do? file:
http://tinyurl.com/Dead-Man-Marryin
Dead French cop married to his gay lover a month after killed by terrorist.
Talk about Forget Paris.
FYNQ, These Heads Ain't Gonna Crack Themselves!
Also, from the Is There Anything Islamic Terrorism Can't Do? file:
http://tinyurl.com/Dead-Man-Marryin
Dead French cop married to his gay lover a month after killed by terrorist.
Talk about Forget Paris.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 31, 2017 06:58 PM (zKIA2)
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Read "Social Justice Warriors Always Lie" by Vox Day. Some of us been at this point for a LONG time and know how to handle it.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at May 31, 2017 06:59 PM (ej8X/)
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When these companies boycott conservatives on command from the fascist nuts, they make a choice to support the "enemy" and I will try to boycott them. Why would I give my money to any enterprise that is supporting thugs and harming the virtuous?
The alumni of many of these colleges need to pull support when they go far left fascist. There are all sorts of groups that "stick together" in their preferred choice of purchasing, which is fine. But they try to make laws against certain people doing that ... like the fed groups that seek out any that don't have the proper kind of diversity ... meaning always ... diversify away from traditional America.
Nuts to that.
The alumni of many of these colleges need to pull support when they go far left fascist. There are all sorts of groups that "stick together" in their preferred choice of purchasing, which is fine. But they try to make laws against certain people doing that ... like the fed groups that seek out any that don't have the proper kind of diversity ... meaning always ... diversify away from traditional America.
Nuts to that.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 31, 2017 06:59 PM (4fQGS)
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One step, seriously, that would end a lot of the nonsense: Get the Feds completely out of the Student Loan Business, which Obama let the Feds take over. Make it all private.
Next Step: Allow any student without an income to default on any student loan balance by declaring bankruptcy within 1 year of graduation.
Yes, that would destroy any company making these loans. Yes, that would lead to a catastrophic drop in college admissions. Yes, that would lead to a shutdown of those institutions which could not show that they were providing value for the money. Yes, it would create a large deal of unemployment for academics and their hangers-on.
That's the point.
Next Step: Allow any student without an income to default on any student loan balance by declaring bankruptcy within 1 year of graduation.
Yes, that would destroy any company making these loans. Yes, that would lead to a catastrophic drop in college admissions. Yes, that would lead to a shutdown of those institutions which could not show that they were providing value for the money. Yes, it would create a large deal of unemployment for academics and their hangers-on.
That's the point.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2017 06:59 PM (QOaYT)
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173 Carry. Always.
Posted by: dc at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (oY/R7)
Develop an interest in numismatics. A couple of rolls of commemorative quarters in a sturdy sock...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2017 06:55 PM (7MWCL)
Sword canes are illegal... as they are considered concealed weapons...
Canes however, are legal to carry...
As are, strangely enough, actual swords...
Some friends and I are trying to recreate BarJitsu.... just for 'fun' of course....
Posted by: dc at May 31, 2017 06:53 PM (oY/R7)
Develop an interest in numismatics. A couple of rolls of commemorative quarters in a sturdy sock...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2017 06:55 PM (7MWCL)
Sword canes are illegal... as they are considered concealed weapons...
Canes however, are legal to carry...
As are, strangely enough, actual swords...
Some friends and I are trying to recreate BarJitsu.... just for 'fun' of course....
Posted by: Don Q. at May 31, 2017 06:59 PM (NgKpN)
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people i know frequently comment on how routinely they now hear this, from people they never expected to hear it from.
Posted by: ace
It's like a nervous tic to dispel the tension when things just appear too weird to be acceptable.
People say it and almost laugh it off, because people are DUMBSTRUCK as to just how weird things are getting.
Logic and proportion are failing.
Posted by: ace
It's like a nervous tic to dispel the tension when things just appear too weird to be acceptable.
People say it and almost laugh it off, because people are DUMBSTRUCK as to just how weird things are getting.
Logic and proportion are failing.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (RFeQD)
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I have always preached about OpSec and open channels.
That said...
Draw up your plans.
Make your lists.
The time is soon.
That said...
Draw up your plans.
Make your lists.
The time is soon.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (66CWr)
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That I am caught in the middle getting shot by all sides is just what it
is. (Must. Not. Make. Obvious. Joke. Must. Resist.)
What joke? That you are so low to the ground that you're not at risk? Or that if you're taking it from all sides, the best thing to do is put on the school girl outfit, close your eyes, and smile for the camera?
is. (Must. Not. Make. Obvious. Joke. Must. Resist.)
What joke? That you are so low to the ground that you're not at risk? Or that if you're taking it from all sides, the best thing to do is put on the school girl outfit, close your eyes, and smile for the camera?
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (fKWf6)
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Maybe. I tend to think that when the left sees their shit being responded to with derision, and the consistent enforcement of law with real consequences they'll back down. Especially if they perceive the very real threat of defense by violence.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (Xr2/U)
Agreed. but is there enough in the mighty FEDGOV that can make that happen? I wonder if the current insanity is simply the crashing tide of peak LIEberaliSm.
I pray.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (Xr2/U)
Agreed. but is there enough in the mighty FEDGOV that can make that happen? I wonder if the current insanity is simply the crashing tide of peak LIEberaliSm.
I pray.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (gqTYw)
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I don't want this world. My horror at the politicization of All The Things is well known. But here we are.
I've had to watch people I otherwise like say horrible, horrible things about a group that includes me and you know what I think? I don't blame you. After the last 20 odd years of vituperation and, especially, after Memories Pizza, I would hate me too. It's human nature. It *hurts* but it's comprehensible. People pushed will push back. They will. That I am caught in the middle getting shot by all sides is just what it is. (Must. Not. Make. Obvious. Joke. Must. Resist.)
If I can comprehend this about human nature, it must be damn obvious indeed.
I despair, I despair.
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (dEQP3)
This is nothing new, Alex. This tune has been played before. The question is how the dance plays out.
Get battered, but don't despair. The music is still playing.
I've had to watch people I otherwise like say horrible, horrible things about a group that includes me and you know what I think? I don't blame you. After the last 20 odd years of vituperation and, especially, after Memories Pizza, I would hate me too. It's human nature. It *hurts* but it's comprehensible. People pushed will push back. They will. That I am caught in the middle getting shot by all sides is just what it is. (Must. Not. Make. Obvious. Joke. Must. Resist.)
If I can comprehend this about human nature, it must be damn obvious indeed.
I despair, I despair.
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (dEQP3)
This is nothing new, Alex. This tune has been played before. The question is how the dance plays out.
Get battered, but don't despair. The music is still playing.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (3OIiX)
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Two very young boys are bearing the burden of this shit. Barron, because he knows that there are people out there that want to kill his dad, and Huma's kid because he is the son of a pervert.
I'm not visiting the sins of the father but information is all.
I'm not visiting the sins of the father but information is all.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (XQvbv)
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They were having a day without white people and a professor refused to play along.
Ah. Thank you.
Ah. Thank you.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (gIRsn)
205
*offers the Empress some tim-bits, a new vial of heroin, and a HateShake*
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (GBWQj)
206
"I've scanned the comments & didn't see this so sorry if it's already been said, but...
That's how you got Trump!!
He fights! He fights back against his enemies, he calls them out, he tweets at them 24/7, he never lets someone treat him like a fool."
And that's why I've been a Trump supporter for close to two years now.
"Trump has been fighting the Clintons, Obama, MSM, the shit head pundits and the fifth column GOPe. And the DOJ and the FBI. The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people."
That's how you got Trump!!
He fights! He fights back against his enemies, he calls them out, he tweets at them 24/7, he never lets someone treat him like a fool."
And that's why I've been a Trump supporter for close to two years now.
"Trump has been fighting the Clintons, Obama, MSM, the shit head pundits and the fifth column GOPe. And the DOJ and the FBI. The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people."
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Ace, yes yes yes yes yes yes. Totally agree. Great read. Thank you.
Posted by: Brian at May 31, 2017 07:01 PM (cGic1)
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The monster already crashed the gates. Minas Tirith is ash and bone.
Either accept the New Circumstance (me) or literally take up arms, because our government shits on us and laughs.
Either accept the New Circumstance (me) or literally take up arms, because our government shits on us and laughs.
Posted by: 13times at May 31, 2017 07:01 PM (WHVu+)
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I have always preached about OpSec and open channels.
That said...
Draw up your plans.
Make your lists.
The time is soon.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (66CWr)
... And do it off-line.
That said...
Draw up your plans.
Make your lists.
The time is soon.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (66CWr)
... And do it off-line.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 07:01 PM (gqTYw)
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Only when they start seeing themselves blacklisted for employment will these morally senseless people learn that blacklisting is bad. They do not have moral sense, but I trust most of them are not so stupid that they don't possess a basic practical regard for their own self-interest.
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Love you, Ace. But that is to not learn from history. Elia Kazan testified that before there was a HUAC-inspired blacklist, there was a Communist blacklist. Communist handlers encouraged Hollywood Commies to "talk down" the talent of any of their patriotic colleagues. I mean diliberately talk down other actors, directors, producers and writers for the sin of not having the right politics. And patriotic performers got fewer roles and became known as "hacks". And Kazan admits he participated in this game.
But we know from history that when they got blacklisted the only thing they learned from it was how to squeal injustice that THEY got blacklisted. (And a disdain for Kazan for "squealing"--such that his work would not be recognized by the academy until the 1990s!)
A lack of self-reflection seems to go hand-in-hand with progressivism. They have the front armor of a M1 Abrams and observation just glances off the front armor.
These are unreflective, self-possessed assholes. And attract assholes who have an innate sense of unreflectiveness and self-possession but want to hit the next level.
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Love you, Ace. But that is to not learn from history. Elia Kazan testified that before there was a HUAC-inspired blacklist, there was a Communist blacklist. Communist handlers encouraged Hollywood Commies to "talk down" the talent of any of their patriotic colleagues. I mean diliberately talk down other actors, directors, producers and writers for the sin of not having the right politics. And patriotic performers got fewer roles and became known as "hacks". And Kazan admits he participated in this game.
But we know from history that when they got blacklisted the only thing they learned from it was how to squeal injustice that THEY got blacklisted. (And a disdain for Kazan for "squealing"--such that his work would not be recognized by the academy until the 1990s!)
A lack of self-reflection seems to go hand-in-hand with progressivism. They have the front armor of a M1 Abrams and observation just glances off the front armor.
These are unreflective, self-possessed assholes. And attract assholes who have an innate sense of unreflectiveness and self-possession but want to hit the next level.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 07:01 PM (2mC6G)
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I'm done with trying to understand why the left is like they are. I know why. And I know what will have to be done to change things. I probably won't be around to see that change. Nathan Hale and all that. Probably.
Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2017 07:01 PM (zLDYs)
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183,
Indeed. President Trump wasn't my first choice - barely in the top five early on - but as I have said here before, there is no doubt in my mind that we have a Chief Executive who loves this country, and is willing to tell those who do not to pound the proverbial sand...
Indeed. President Trump wasn't my first choice - barely in the top five early on - but as I have said here before, there is no doubt in my mind that we have a Chief Executive who loves this country, and is willing to tell those who do not to pound the proverbial sand...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 07:01 PM (MINbv)
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"Trump has been fighting the Clintons, Obama, MSM, the shit head pundits and the fifth column GOPe. And the DOJ and the FBI. The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people."
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:01 PM (+7/1f)
That did make me smile.................
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:01 PM (+7/1f)
That did make me smile.................
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 07:02 PM (gqTYw)
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So, did Ace like the movie?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX
Hon, ain't nobody liking this flick.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX
Hon, ain't nobody liking this flick.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:02 PM (66CWr)
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So naturally the Left thought the election would bring them heads on spikes. That's what their candidate-dictator promised them. And she was a sure thing to win!
By now, guns were supposed to be outlawed and confiscated. By now, all coal was to be outlawed. By now, churches were to be billed for back-taxes. By now, there was supposed 500K more islamic "refugee children" imported into our cities and towns. By now, there was supposed to be more leftist justices on the Court. By now, there was supposed a big tax hike. By now, there was supposed to be free tuition for everyone...except the white privileged. By now, there was supposed to be Amnesty. By now, there was supposed no more election oversight at all ensuring a Democrats stay in the White House and control Congress forever.
So naturally the Left thought the election would bring them heads on spikes. That's what their candidate-dictator promised them. And she was a sure thing to win!
By now, guns were supposed to be outlawed and confiscated. By now, all coal was to be outlawed. By now, churches were to be billed for back-taxes. By now, there was supposed 500K more islamic "refugee children" imported into our cities and towns. By now, there was supposed to be more leftist justices on the Court. By now, there was supposed a big tax hike. By now, there was supposed to be free tuition for everyone...except the white privileged. By now, there was supposed to be Amnesty. By now, there was supposed no more election oversight at all ensuring a Democrats stay in the White House and control Congress forever.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:03 PM (rAqYf)
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That time has passed. We're out of time.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 06:51 PM (gqTYw)
Yeah, pretty much. ... everything in the culture is really going to be subservient to the reactions when the monetary system implodes. And, even though most people have conveniently forgotten about that, it's going to happen.
But outside of that the right doesn't have the power to do much of anything. Most of our representatives and agents in Washington hate conservatives and work for the left.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 06:51 PM (gqTYw)
Yeah, pretty much. ... everything in the culture is really going to be subservient to the reactions when the monetary system implodes. And, even though most people have conveniently forgotten about that, it's going to happen.
But outside of that the right doesn't have the power to do much of anything. Most of our representatives and agents in Washington hate conservatives and work for the left.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 07:03 PM (zc3Db)
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Great post ace.
We do need to burn the institutions down and start again.
What many miss when resigningly fearing that some violence, at least, will be necessary, is that if we would stop playing so nice and fair and adopt and modify street tactics against these assclowns, it might not hAve come to this point and would not talked about as inevitable, etc.
We are too dignified and nonconfrontational and willing to live and let live, they ain't.
A rightest sees a big church built in his town that he is not interested in, and wants to build one of his own to balance it out, a leftist wants the church bulldozed...
We do need to burn the institutions down and start again.
What many miss when resigningly fearing that some violence, at least, will be necessary, is that if we would stop playing so nice and fair and adopt and modify street tactics against these assclowns, it might not hAve come to this point and would not talked about as inevitable, etc.
We are too dignified and nonconfrontational and willing to live and let live, they ain't.
A rightest sees a big church built in his town that he is not interested in, and wants to build one of his own to balance it out, a leftist wants the church bulldozed...
Posted by: Me at May 31, 2017 07:03 PM (8qtt8)
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This movie is like a mash-up of Ishtar. Heaven's Gate, and Lord of the Flies.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 07:03 PM (GBWQj)
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I have long been one to call for peace and maturity and doing the right thing even when treated like dirt. I still do believe that for myself I should, as a Christian. I believe in being a gentleman even as the world turns to savagery.
But I don't call for anyone else to be so any more. Civilization is built by gentlemen and scholars. But you can't have civilization without the asskickers and name-takers. The west wasn't won by preachers and schoolmarms. We're up against people who want to destroy civilization and people need to stand up to them to stop them.
But I don't call for anyone else to be so any more. Civilization is built by gentlemen and scholars. But you can't have civilization without the asskickers and name-takers. The west wasn't won by preachers and schoolmarms. We're up against people who want to destroy civilization and people need to stand up to them to stop them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2017 07:04 PM (39g3+)
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I have always preached about OpSec and open channels.
That said...
Draw up your plans.
Make your lists.
The time is soon.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (66CWr)
Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.
I come in peace. I didnt bring artillery. But Im pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, Ill kill you all.
By, You know who
That said...
Draw up your plans.
Make your lists.
The time is soon.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (66CWr)
Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.
I come in peace. I didnt bring artillery. But Im pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, Ill kill you all.
By, You know who
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 07:04 PM (SjImc)
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I just watched a 1950 film noire called "Try and Get Me!" which ultimately was a condemnation of "mob justice" -- it tells the (true) story of a guy accused of murder in San Jose was was dragged from the jailhouse and lynched because the mob thought he was gonna to walk free.
The screenwriter was a communist Hollywood-lefty type who two years later was blacklisted, because he was always interjecting politics into his scripts.
I tried figure out what was the leftist message of the movie: online reviews revealed that in the screenwriters worldview, "mobs" are always right-wing mobs, so by condemning mob behavior, he was condemning conservatism.
Fast forward 67 years: My oh my how things have changed. Now mobs are always LEFT-wing mobs.
Once again proving that "Conservatism is the new counter-culture."
The screenwriter was a communist Hollywood-lefty type who two years later was blacklisted, because he was always interjecting politics into his scripts.
I tried figure out what was the leftist message of the movie: online reviews revealed that in the screenwriters worldview, "mobs" are always right-wing mobs, so by condemning mob behavior, he was condemning conservatism.
Fast forward 67 years: My oh my how things have changed. Now mobs are always LEFT-wing mobs.
Once again proving that "Conservatism is the new counter-culture."
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 07:04 PM (DQ4Fv)
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This post would be a great time for Sven to return.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 07:05 PM (GBWQj)
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This is where I usually get banned
Posted by: Jean at May 31, 2017 07:05 PM (J/YFm)
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That I am caught in the middle getting shot by all sides is just what it is. (Must. Not. Make. Obvious. Joke. Must. Resist.)
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (dEQP3) fnord (dEQP3)
Wait, when did this stop being about #WAR and start being about #PERVERSE ICE CREAM SOCIAL?
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (dEQP3) fnord (dEQP3)
Wait, when did this stop being about #WAR and start being about #PERVERSE ICE CREAM SOCIAL?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 31, 2017 07:05 PM (wB8Tg)
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These are unreflective, self-possessed assholes. And attract assholes who have an innate sense of unreflectiveness and self-possession but want to hit the next level.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 07:01 PM (2mC6G)
... and they seem to be, increasingly, running those avenues of employment.
Then what..... slow, inevitable collapse?
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 07:01 PM (2mC6G)
... and they seem to be, increasingly, running those avenues of employment.
Then what..... slow, inevitable collapse?
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 07:05 PM (gqTYw)
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Look at what's happening in Venezuela.
Where is the USA in helping these people fight for their democracy?? Fuck Syria. We ought to be helping or South American neighbors who yearn Liberty.
Look at what's happening in Venezuela.
Where is the USA in helping these people fight for their democracy?? Fuck Syria. We ought to be helping or South American neighbors who yearn Liberty.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:06 PM (rAqYf)
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223 This post would be a great time for Sven to return.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 07:05 PM (GBWQj)
He's having a ball over at Instapundit.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 07:05 PM (GBWQj)
He's having a ball over at Instapundit.Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 07:06 PM (gqTYw)
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It was so weird getting this post the same day I'm reading 'Indian Country'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 07:06 PM (3OIiX)
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My manager was telling me about a book he's reading called Sucker Punch, which is about the art of hitting an assailant, hard, before he hits you. (As an act of self defence.)
He used to be a bar manager in Scotland so he's been sucker punched and had to sucker punch in a threatening situation.
Conservatives might have to start buying the book.
He used to be a bar manager in Scotland so he's been sucker punched and had to sucker punch in a threatening situation.
Conservatives might have to start buying the book.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 31, 2017 07:07 PM (hJrjt)
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I'm in leftist emulation training, so.....
re. Huma Albedin, the lesbo love of HRC's life, and her sex pervert husband Carlos Danger.
It is not better for the children, if one of the parents is a sex pervert.
And Huma Abedin is quite the charitable Muslim == she is married to a Jewish sex pervert. And yet, she has not been shunned, mocked, beaten with stones. And she still has her head. What kind of a father has she who will not defend the family's honor.
re. Huma Albedin, the lesbo love of HRC's life, and her sex pervert husband Carlos Danger.
It is not better for the children, if one of the parents is a sex pervert.
And Huma Abedin is quite the charitable Muslim == she is married to a Jewish sex pervert. And yet, she has not been shunned, mocked, beaten with stones. And she still has her head. What kind of a father has she who will not defend the family's honor.
Posted by: gracepc at May 31, 2017 07:07 PM (OU4q6)
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California politicos dropped the succession talk because some of us Northerners would seize the opportunity to raise the new bear flag in Redding and fight the Southerners..
Posted by: 13times at May 31, 2017 07:07 PM (WHVu+)
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That I am caught in the middle getting shot by all sides is just what it is. (Must. Not. Make. Obvious. Joke. Must. Resist.)
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there
I'd say try to lay low, but you have a natural advantage there...
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there
I'd say try to lay low, but you have a natural advantage there...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:07 PM (66CWr)
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They were having a day without white people and a professor refused to play along.
They better pray that never happens for real. They really wouldn't like the outcome.
They better pray that never happens for real. They really wouldn't like the outcome.
Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 07:07 PM (qJhUV)
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I would be interested in practical steps for not just countering the left tit-for-tat but actually out-maneuvering them.
The shouting down at town halls. I'm not personally interesting in just shouting back. Or throwing boiling coffee on them, or the other stuff they have done to us.
I'm not averse to punching back, literally, when it comes to it. When they bar the door and literally trap people into events and such I do think we ought to have a prepared response that discourages anyone from every trying that again. I kind of suspect that is in the works with based stickman and so on.
The shouting down at town halls. I'm not personally interesting in just shouting back. Or throwing boiling coffee on them, or the other stuff they have done to us.
I'm not averse to punching back, literally, when it comes to it. When they bar the door and literally trap people into events and such I do think we ought to have a prepared response that discourages anyone from every trying that again. I kind of suspect that is in the works with based stickman and so on.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 31, 2017 07:07 PM (yL25O)
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I have just sent an email to Simon & Schuster demanding that they pull Ken Jennings' books, and terminate his contracts.
Posted by: Aggle at May 31, 2017 07:07 PM (J6DrC)
Posted by: kadang at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (14D7u)
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Well tell Sven to get on over here then...
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (GBWQj)
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They really do not know what they are asking for. I have said that once or twice before, but it bears repeating. We have slipped past words and disagreement. It has arrived at violence, and for now, the violence remains solely on the left. But it won't stay there.
Posted by: Toxic Masculinity Retired at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (DxWUs)
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people i know frequently comment on how routinely they now hear this, from people they never expected to hear it from.
Posted by: ace
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I've definitely seen it first hand.
The sort of people that USED to talk about overthrowing the government, secession, a civil war, etc. would be like the guy at a Gun Show dressed in Camo or someone that is dirt poor and their life was in shambles.
Now its like educated, white collar professionals that at least in terms of resources, are quite comfortable.
It's just more of an attitude like this is going to break loose, there's no political solution to it.
Posted by: ace
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I've definitely seen it first hand.
The sort of people that USED to talk about overthrowing the government, secession, a civil war, etc. would be like the guy at a Gun Show dressed in Camo or someone that is dirt poor and their life was in shambles.
Now its like educated, white collar professionals that at least in terms of resources, are quite comfortable.
It's just more of an attitude like this is going to break loose, there's no political solution to it.
Posted by: xanax at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (XHucz)
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You know the war mongers McCain and Graham are full of shit about democracy when they don't even care about Venezuela.
You know the war mongers McCain and Graham are full of shit about democracy when they don't even care about Venezuela.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (rAqYf)
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What joke? That you are so low to the ground that you're not at risk? Or that if you're taking it from all sides, the best thing to do is put on the school girl outfit, close your eyes, and smile for the camera?
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (fKWf6)
Bingo bango for the second one.
Though if I were in California, I'd have to wear goggles, work place safety don't you know?
What joke? That you are so low to the ground that you're not at risk? Or that if you're taking it from all sides, the best thing to do is put on the school girl outfit, close your eyes, and smile for the camera?
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 07:00 PM (fKWf6)
Bingo bango for the second one.
Though if I were in California, I'd have to wear goggles, work place safety don't you know?
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (dEQP3)
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But I don't call for anyone else to be so any more. Civilization is built by gentlemen and scholars. But you can't have civilization without the asskickers and name-takers. The west wasn't won by preachers and schoolmarms. We're up against people who want to destroy civilization and people need to stand up to them to stop them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2017 07:04 PM (39g3+)
So much this.
I don't like where we are -- a cold civil war -- but going along to get along has brought us nothing but a continuing erosion of freedom. To the GOPe and the NeverTrumpers I ask, "If we don't fight now, then when?" Because we will pass the point of no return (if we haven't already).
However, I am neither an ass-kicker or a name-taker.
Yet. But I am grateful for those rough people who stand watch and fight back better than I can.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2017 07:04 PM (39g3+)
So much this.
I don't like where we are -- a cold civil war -- but going along to get along has brought us nothing but a continuing erosion of freedom. To the GOPe and the NeverTrumpers I ask, "If we don't fight now, then when?" Because we will pass the point of no return (if we haven't already).
However, I am neither an ass-kicker or a name-taker.
Yet. But I am grateful for those rough people who stand watch and fight back better than I can.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (MINbv)
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I have long been one to call for peace and maturity and doing the right thing even when treated like dirt. I still do believe that for myself I should, as a Christian. I believe in being a gentleman even as the world turns to savagery.
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Ditto, CT.
But my devotion to Christ doesn't stop me from "analytically" classifying them as "assholes". (Because I'm in that kind of a venue).
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Ditto, CT.
But my devotion to Christ doesn't stop me from "analytically" classifying them as "assholes". (Because I'm in that kind of a venue).
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (2mC6G)
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By now, guns were supposed to be outlawed and confiscated. By now, all coal was to be outlawed. By now, churches were to be billed for back-taxes. By now, there was supposed 500K more islamic "refugee children" imported into our cities and towns. By now, there was supposed to be more leftist justices on the Court. By now, there was supposed a big tax hike. By now, there was supposed to be free tuition for everyone...except the white privileged. By now, there was supposed to be Amnesty. By now, there was supposed no more election oversight at all ensuring a Democrats stay in the White House and control Congress forever.
And that's just the first 100 days.
And that's just the first 100 days.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (39g3+)
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Dead nuts on, ace.
Posted by: Insomniac, forgotten but not gone at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (0mRoj)
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But outside of that the right doesn't have the power to do much of anything. Most of our representatives and agents in Washington hate conservatives and work for the left.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 07:03 PM (zc3Db)
*long sloooow sigh*
So, it seems.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 07:03 PM (zc3Db)
*long sloooow sigh*
So, it seems.
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 31, 2017 07:09 PM (gqTYw)
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We're presently going through a new Red Scare with people being tarnished if they associate with or talk to Russians, and being black-balled in Hollywood if they're of the wrong political party, you'd think the left would realize this but they're stupid and probably wouldn't care if they did.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2017 07:09 PM (4e+hS)
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AtC- I am probably behind the first 50 people that would defend you to the last bullet but I would do so none the less.
Do Not Depsair.
AtC- I am probably behind the first 50 people that would defend you to the last bullet but I would do so none the less.
Do Not Depsair.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2017 07:09 PM (XQvbv)
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"We're up against people who want to destroy civilization and people need to stand up to them to stop them."
FFS, we won the election. The change we want will take years.
The counter-offensive has started. I can almost hear General Zhukov gunning the engines of 3,000 T-34 tanks.
FFS, we won the election. The change we want will take years.
The counter-offensive has started. I can almost hear General Zhukov gunning the engines of 3,000 T-34 tanks.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:09 PM (+7/1f)
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If the right were to going to really try to make any progress in pushing back the anti-human left you would see Congress starting to take its responsibilities and powers over the courts seriously. You would see idiot judges who think they are emperors of their little courtrooms being impeached for being America-hating, anti-Constitutional assholes. You would see the jurisdiction of courts being seriously curtailed.
But we don't see any of this. We see a Congress that put more effort into propping up the left's idiotic lie about Trump colluding with Russia than looking to straighten out any of the courts that snatched Executive power to themselves and then ruled against America.
But we don't see any of this. We see a Congress that put more effort into propping up the left's idiotic lie about Trump colluding with Russia than looking to straighten out any of the courts that snatched Executive power to themselves and then ruled against America.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 07:09 PM (zc3Db)
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I flat out don't understand how SJWs have developed such power in the market.
These unemployed and unemployable children don't have a pot to pee in, or a window to throw it out of.
These unemployed and unemployable children don't have a pot to pee in, or a window to throw it out of.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 31, 2017 07:09 PM (hJrjt)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 07:10 PM (GBWQj)
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Then what..... slow, inevitable collapse?
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC
It was slow at first, and then...all of a sudden!
BOOM!
Who knows how long this will go on? Will it burn itself out (unlikely), mutate into something else (what?) or start to become truly ridiculous, or terribly serious?
Are we on the cusp of something like the French Revolution of 1794?
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC
It was slow at first, and then...all of a sudden!
BOOM!
Who knows how long this will go on? Will it burn itself out (unlikely), mutate into something else (what?) or start to become truly ridiculous, or terribly serious?
Are we on the cusp of something like the French Revolution of 1794?
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 07:10 PM (RFeQD)
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On 9/11 (yeah, THAT 9/11) someone forwarded me an email that had been written by a New York City cop. The email is long since lost due to head crashes, but I do remember a couple of things from it. This cop (his nickname was "Big Irish") pulled no punches about how he felt about That Day, and I certainly did not blame him. I've forgotten most of it over the years, but there was one bit at the end that stuck in my mind, and it sort of meshed with the end of Ace's polemic here. He said:
No quarter.
No mercy.
No more.
The thing is this, boys and girls. These SJW assholes are like a lot of people on this planet and in history. They only understand one thing; the mailed fist. They certainly don't mind using that fist themselves when they think they can get away with it; we've seen the videos. So if we want any chance of winning this war, and war it is, we must trot out that mailed fist also, and not be bashful about using it.
No quarter.
No mercy.
No more.
No quarter.
No mercy.
No more.
The thing is this, boys and girls. These SJW assholes are like a lot of people on this planet and in history. They only understand one thing; the mailed fist. They certainly don't mind using that fist themselves when they think they can get away with it; we've seen the videos. So if we want any chance of winning this war, and war it is, we must trot out that mailed fist also, and not be bashful about using it.
No quarter.
No mercy.
No more.
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at May 31, 2017 07:10 PM (T1H5V)
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Absolutely right. Well done.
Posted by: nip at May 31, 2017 07:10 PM (VqJRJ)
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We're presently going through a new Red Scare with people being tarnished if they associate with or talk to Russians, and being black-balled in Hollywood if they're of the wrong political party, you'd think the left would realize this but they're stupid and probably wouldn't care if they did.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2017 07:09 PM (4e+hS)
Great analogy..I'm gonna steal that one when I fight with any G-D damn leftist
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2017 07:09 PM (4e+hS)
Great analogy..I'm gonna steal that one when I fight with any G-D damn leftist
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 07:11 PM (SjImc)
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Three of my children are SJW's and we have not spoken since the election. Our middle daughter is the only child that thinks her sibs are crazy. My father is in a coma now, the docs don't think he will last much longer, but my moron children refuse to answer our calls or texts about their grandfather. My husband and I have decided to forget they are alive, we have too much to worry about to think of them.
It's a mental disease that has completely overtaken them. They are lost to us but I would fight anyone that tried to do this to someone else's child.
It's a mental disease that has completely overtaken them. They are lost to us but I would fight anyone that tried to do this to someone else's child.
Posted by: Abby at May 31, 2017 07:11 PM (HBU7W)
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Where is the USA in helping these people fight for their democracy?? Fuck Syria. We ought to be helping or South American neighbors who yearn Liberty.
Posted by: Soothsayer
The most difficult lesson we haven't learned is that the 'oppressed' suddenly become anti-West when we try to help.
It never pays off, and freedom is rarely appreciated when we do.
Tribalism is more universal and harder to bridge than we appreciate.
Posted by: Soothsayer
The most difficult lesson we haven't learned is that the 'oppressed' suddenly become anti-West when we try to help.
It never pays off, and freedom is rarely appreciated when we do.
Tribalism is more universal and harder to bridge than we appreciate.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 31, 2017 07:11 PM (udajc)
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Regarding Venezuela - Goldman Sachs just gave them Billions with a B - bought a whole bunch of bonds with a supposed 40% rate of return.
So the murderous thugs have billions of dollars to purchase more arms & bullets to kill the democracy demonstrators.
An opposition lawmaker in their congress spoke out about this and said that if the opposition thru some miracle pulls off a coup, that those bonds will be defaulted. But in the meantime, GS has guaranteed the deaths of many patriots in Venezuela. Spit.
So the murderous thugs have billions of dollars to purchase more arms & bullets to kill the democracy demonstrators.
An opposition lawmaker in their congress spoke out about this and said that if the opposition thru some miracle pulls off a coup, that those bonds will be defaulted. But in the meantime, GS has guaranteed the deaths of many patriots in Venezuela. Spit.
Posted by: Boots at May 31, 2017 07:12 PM (EBwPV)
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As a Christian and a gentleman who isn't proud of the odd profanity I use, I think sex and travel should be insisted upon for every SJW who opens Xer mouth.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 31, 2017 07:12 PM (hJrjt)
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Civilization is built by gentlemen and scholars.
Civilization is built by strong people who respect each other and have the conviction to stand by their beliefs to the death, and in doing so will inflict death and destruction upon their enemies without compunction or mercy.
Civilization is built by strong people who respect each other and have the conviction to stand by their beliefs to the death, and in doing so will inflict death and destruction upon their enemies without compunction or mercy.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 07:12 PM (Xr2/U)
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And by the way, this is why I'm hoping I can get out of powderkeg country when the cash flow clears. Even if I'm not up on certs then. I may not be grade A prospects anymore, but if I can find a way to support myself or otherwise be useful, I'm going to find a place to do it where I'm among friendlies.
Not much of a lover or a fighter, but I might have some useful skills with words...
Not much of a lover or a fighter, but I might have some useful skills with words...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:12 PM (66CWr)
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You would see idiot judges who think they are emperors of their little courtrooms being impeached for being America-hating, anti-Constitutional assholes. You would see the jurisdiction of courts being seriously curtailed.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 07:09 PM (zc3Db)
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Wait. Did we have the same wet dream?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 07:09 PM (zc3Db)
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Wait. Did we have the same wet dream?
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 07:12 PM (2mC6G)
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259, Posted by: Abby at May 31, 2017 07:11 PM (HBU7W)
I am sorry to read that, Abby. I can imagine how hurtful that would be amidst your father's health struggles.
I am sorry to read that, Abby. I can imagine how hurtful that would be amidst your father's health struggles.
Posted by: IC at May 31, 2017 07:12 PM (a0IVu)
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We were just supposed to take our beat down.
Posted by: xanax at May 31, 2017 06:48 PM (XHucz)
I remember people using precisely those words regarding George Zimmerman vs. Trayvon Martin.
We were just supposed to take our beat down.
Posted by: xanax at May 31, 2017 06:48 PM (XHucz)
I remember people using precisely those words regarding George Zimmerman vs. Trayvon Martin.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 07:12 PM (sdi6R)
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In pace paratus.
Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2017 07:13 PM (nlbfN)
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255. Nahh...I'm thinking some mashup of Albania and Jugoslav civil wars, but with the pacing of The Troubles. Really nasty, really up-close and personal, and every.single.day.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 31, 2017 07:13 PM (TwwWO)
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It's as that silly expression ," I owned him", sounds silly but that has been what they've been actively doing and we've let them 'own us'
it's like with the harassing corps , and owning them until they eventually do.
when we've become so easy to own.
You said it best ace when you stated we allow this' (when speaking of a politicians act) then we become the slaves to their master-..ing over us.
it's like with the harassing corps , and owning them until they eventually do.
when we've become so easy to own.
You said it best ace when you stated we allow this' (when speaking of a politicians act) then we become the slaves to their master-..ing over us.
Posted by: willow at May 31, 2017 07:13 PM (iS1Cb)
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Civilization is built by gentlemen and scholars.
Civilization is built by strong people who respect each other and have the conviction to stand by their beliefs to the death, and in doing so will inflict death and destruction upon their enemies without compunction or mercy.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 07:12 PM (Xr2/U)
It's built by both. And both are honored professions
Civilization is built by strong people who respect each other and have the conviction to stand by their beliefs to the death, and in doing so will inflict death and destruction upon their enemies without compunction or mercy.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 07:12 PM (Xr2/U)
It's built by both. And both are honored professions
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 07:13 PM (SjImc)
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You bet, Ace. Let's pull some hair.
There's an old joke about a boy who complains to his mother that his sister keeps pulling his hair.
"Oh," responds the mother, "she doesn't know that it hurts."
A few minutes later, the mother hears the girl scream and runs into the other room. "She knows now," the boy explains.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/254936/
There's an old joke about a boy who complains to his mother that his sister keeps pulling his hair.
"Oh," responds the mother, "she doesn't know that it hurts."
A few minutes later, the mother hears the girl scream and runs into the other room. "She knows now," the boy explains.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/254936/
Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 31, 2017 07:13 PM (17QyB)
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"Gandhi's tactics would not have worked had India been colonized by, say, China."
Gandhi wrote a Dear Friend letter to Hitler--kind of a Rodney King "Why Can't We All Get Along" deal. A: Maybe because "some" of us are bent on world domination and have a nasty Zyklon-B habit.
He also recommended that Jews offer themselves like sheep for the slaughter until the Nazis saw the error of their ways. But Gandhi himself only took on the Brits, who could be shamed.
Screw that.
Gandhi wrote a Dear Friend letter to Hitler--kind of a Rodney King "Why Can't We All Get Along" deal. A: Maybe because "some" of us are bent on world domination and have a nasty Zyklon-B habit.
He also recommended that Jews offer themselves like sheep for the slaughter until the Nazis saw the error of their ways. But Gandhi himself only took on the Brits, who could be shamed.
Screw that.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 31, 2017 07:14 PM (Ndje9)
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. What's all this talk about fighting?
Before we get into a war, how about we start by, oh I dunno, hounding the shit outta the Republicans for starters? We don't do even do that!
How about we stop funding the Left by not patronizing anything they're involved in. Anything.
And why aren't we making our own News and Media outlet? Be it on Youtube or wherever.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. What's all this talk about fighting?
Before we get into a war, how about we start by, oh I dunno, hounding the shit outta the Republicans for starters? We don't do even do that!
How about we stop funding the Left by not patronizing anything they're involved in. Anything.
And why aren't we making our own News and Media outlet? Be it on Youtube or wherever.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:14 PM (rAqYf)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 07:15 PM (GBWQj)
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Just now joining in.
Been thinking this for some time.
I was in my first protest in the 70's in college and learned then that those who organize these events are seldom local. The Students for a Dem Society would swoop in (all paid for by the way) and use local chapters of volunteers to do the heavy lifting of the protest. The outsiders would just watch and guide. And leave.
And if there was pushback---they left early.
Its not the guy with the megaphone, its the guy who talks to the guy with the megaphone every so often you go after.
Nothing has changed in all the years since.
A long hot summer is brewing that will make Chicago '68 look like a walk in the park.
Para bellum!
Been thinking this for some time.
I was in my first protest in the 70's in college and learned then that those who organize these events are seldom local. The Students for a Dem Society would swoop in (all paid for by the way) and use local chapters of volunteers to do the heavy lifting of the protest. The outsiders would just watch and guide. And leave.
And if there was pushback---they left early.
Its not the guy with the megaphone, its the guy who talks to the guy with the megaphone every so often you go after.
Nothing has changed in all the years since.
A long hot summer is brewing that will make Chicago '68 look like a walk in the park.
Para bellum!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2017 07:15 PM (0tfLf)
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Great piece, Ace.
As for the Venezuelans, they made their bed.
I think they, in their present form, are useful as a warning, and not much else.
As for the Venezuelans, they made their bed.
I think they, in their present form, are useful as a warning, and not much else.
Posted by: navybrat at May 31, 2017 07:15 PM (w7KSn)
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Aggle- More info please- I called the Texas DoE 20 times about Jennings. There are few people that I have more hate for than him.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2017 07:15 PM (XQvbv)
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And why aren't we making our own News and Media outlet? Be it on Youtube or wherever.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:14 PM (rAqYf)
One America News
And sites like this
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:14 PM (rAqYf)
One America News
And sites like this
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (SjImc)
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Bingo bango for the second one.
Though if I were in California, I'd have to wear goggles, work place safety don't you know?
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (dEQP3)
Luckily the meetup is planned for Vegas?
Though if I were in California, I'd have to wear goggles, work place safety don't you know?
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 07:08 PM (dEQP3)
Luckily the meetup is planned for Vegas?
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (fKWf6)
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275. And we'll all fight to the death not to get stuck with the gypsies.....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (TwwWO)
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So, does this apply to their supporters in the GOPe as well?
Posted by: gracepc at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (OU4q6)
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Close the door put out the light
Why'know they won't be home tonight, ooh
The snow falls hard and don't you know?
The winds of Thor are blowing cold
They're wearing steel that's bright and true
They carry news that must get through
They choose the path where no one goes
They hold no quarter...
Walking side by side with death
The devil mocks their every step
The snow drives back the foot that's slow
The dogs of doom are howling more
They carry news that must get through
To build a dream for me and you
They choose the path where no one goes
They hold no quarter
They ask no quarter...
Why'know they won't be home tonight, ooh
The snow falls hard and don't you know?
The winds of Thor are blowing cold
They're wearing steel that's bright and true
They carry news that must get through
They choose the path where no one goes
They hold no quarter...
Walking side by side with death
The devil mocks their every step
The snow drives back the foot that's slow
The dogs of doom are howling more
They carry news that must get through
To build a dream for me and you
They choose the path where no one goes
They hold no quarter
They ask no quarter...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (66CWr)
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No way can I read all that right now, can anyone give me the short version?
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:24 PM (Ot7+c)
The SJW's want war and are at war with us. It's time to go to war with them using the same methods they have been using. They must feel pain.
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:24 PM (Ot7+c)
The SJW's want war and are at war with us. It's time to go to war with them using the same methods they have been using. They must feel pain.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (J70i0)
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Thank you, Ben Had, that means a lot.
Wait, when did this stop being about #WAR and start being about #PERVERSE ICE CREAM SOCIAL?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 31, 2017 07:05 PM (wB8Tg)
When I decided to attention whore even more than usual? Or, you know, after I read what I typed and decided to beat your pervy mcpervs to the joke.
Wait, when did this stop being about #WAR and start being about #PERVERSE ICE CREAM SOCIAL?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 31, 2017 07:05 PM (wB8Tg)
When I decided to attention whore even more than usual? Or, you know, after I read what I typed and decided to beat your pervy mcpervs to the joke.
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (dEQP3)
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Civilization is built by strong people who respect
each other and have the conviction to stand by their beliefs to the
death, and in doing so will inflict death and destruction upon their
enemies without compunction or mercy.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 07:12 PM (Xr2/U)
Hmm, written by a guy with a toxic masculinity problem. Semper Fi Mac.
each other and have the conviction to stand by their beliefs to the
death, and in doing so will inflict death and destruction upon their
enemies without compunction or mercy.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 07:12 PM (Xr2/U)
Hmm, written by a guy with a toxic masculinity problem. Semper Fi Mac.
Posted by: Toxic Masculinity Retired at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (DxWUs)
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Regarding Venezuela - Goldman Sachs just gave them Billions with a B - bought a whole bunch of bonds with a supposed 40% rate of return.
So the murderous thugs have billions of dollars to purchase more arms & bullets to kill the democracy demonstrators.
Not so much.
Goldman bought the bonds in the secondary market, meaning that the government had already received the money from someone else and Goldman is simply taking a risk on the obligation for repayment.
No new money went to Venezuela.
So the murderous thugs have billions of dollars to purchase more arms & bullets to kill the democracy demonstrators.
Not so much.
Goldman bought the bonds in the secondary market, meaning that the government had already received the money from someone else and Goldman is simply taking a risk on the obligation for repayment.
No new money went to Venezuela.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (gIRsn)
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I don't understand the talk of "fighting" and "war" when we don't even dedicate a tenth of our time to public demonstrations as the Left does.
No wonder why the Republicans are easily fooled that the majority is with the Left when we don't Show Up.
We gotta Show Up.
I don't understand the talk of "fighting" and "war" when we don't even dedicate a tenth of our time to public demonstrations as the Left does.
No wonder why the Republicans are easily fooled that the majority is with the Left when we don't Show Up.
We gotta Show Up.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (rAqYf)
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Two words: Neville Chamberlain.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (vRcUp)
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At the video around 3:50, one of the "students" reads a few words. She stumbles over the text like a child reading Green Eggs and Ham for the first time. She. Can't. Even. Read. In our first cannon shot in this war Ace has declared, we need to yank all the Pell Grants from the students who can't read higher than a 10th grade reading level. That would wipe out most major institutions of higher learning...
Posted by: Victoria at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (IokTD)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (QDnY+)
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. What's all this talk about fighting?
Before we get into a war, how about we start by, oh I dunno, hounding the shit outta the Republicans for starters? We don't do even do that!
How about we stop funding the Left by not patronizing anything they're involved in. Anything.
And why aren't we making our own News and Media outlet? Be it on Youtube or wherever.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:14 PM (rAqYf)
Agreed.
We need to get rowdy. Very rowdy. Ungovernable even.
Hopefully that will work
Whoa, whoa, whoa. What's all this talk about fighting?
Before we get into a war, how about we start by, oh I dunno, hounding the shit outta the Republicans for starters? We don't do even do that!
How about we stop funding the Left by not patronizing anything they're involved in. Anything.
And why aren't we making our own News and Media outlet? Be it on Youtube or wherever.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:14 PM (rAqYf)
Agreed.
We need to get rowdy. Very rowdy. Ungovernable even.
Hopefully that will work
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (3OIiX)
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How many of the day without white people were white?
Also one of them says "we had civilization before you ever did -we built these cities when you were coming out of caves."
These students don't even know what being civil means!
Also one of them says "we had civilization before you ever did -we built these cities when you were coming out of caves."
These students don't even know what being civil means!
Posted by: Glenn John at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (LilNs)
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It's a mental disease that has completely overtaken them. They are lost to us but I would fight anyone that tried to do this to someone else's child.
Posted by: Abby
That is so sad. I am so sorry. There is nothing more hurtful than having a beloved child turn against you. My youngest son sort of turned against me for a while when he was a teenager (over different issues) and it was very painful. He is coming back now.
It must ache inside you and your husband.
Posted by: Abby
That is so sad. I am so sorry. There is nothing more hurtful than having a beloved child turn against you. My youngest son sort of turned against me for a while when he was a teenager (over different issues) and it was very painful. He is coming back now.
It must ache inside you and your husband.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (RFeQD)
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It takes only one side to start a war.
And the aggressor sets the rules of engagement.
Great post, Ace.
And the aggressor sets the rules of engagement.
Great post, Ace.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (yV8pG)
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He also recommended that Jews offer themselves like sheep for the slaughter until the Nazis saw the error of their ways. But Gandhi himself only took on the Brits, who could be shamed.
Screw that.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 31, 2017 07:14 PM (Ndje9)
Meanwhile, India owes most of its modern economy to the fact that the Brits colonized them. If they hadn't made English an official language in India you would see a country, today, with a billion people and a GDP of $132.44. India has lived off of its English.
Screw that.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 31, 2017 07:14 PM (Ndje9)
Meanwhile, India owes most of its modern economy to the fact that the Brits colonized them. If they hadn't made English an official language in India you would see a country, today, with a billion people and a GDP of $132.44. India has lived off of its English.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (zc3Db)
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Long, long ago, when it was the commies we had to worry about, I verbalized the viewpoint...
"Speak to them in a language they understand."
...this was simply an update to the strategy used in WWII (and any major war before that).
Then the muzzies started acting up; the counter-violence started out as a mixed message: Islam is not the enemy / fuck with us and you die.
IMO, the former is a fatal conceit (based on the happy shiny premise that 'they love life too'), while the latter is a proper survivalistic mind-set.
Now the Left / Proggie / Globalist (statist) crowd has decided to go 'all in' since PDT up-ended the grand chessboard in 2016. My viewpoint has never changed... 'speak to them in a language they understand'.
Welcome to the party, Ace. Drinks are cooler, bring your own instruments of mayhem. The 'Show me your best War-Face' contest begins when the signal flares go up.
Deus Vult y'all.
"Speak to them in a language they understand."
...this was simply an update to the strategy used in WWII (and any major war before that).
Then the muzzies started acting up; the counter-violence started out as a mixed message: Islam is not the enemy / fuck with us and you die.
IMO, the former is a fatal conceit (based on the happy shiny premise that 'they love life too'), while the latter is a proper survivalistic mind-set.
Now the Left / Proggie / Globalist (statist) crowd has decided to go 'all in' since PDT up-ended the grand chessboard in 2016. My viewpoint has never changed... 'speak to them in a language they understand'.
Welcome to the party, Ace. Drinks are cooler, bring your own instruments of mayhem. The 'Show me your best War-Face' contest begins when the signal flares go up.
Deus Vult y'all.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 31, 2017 07:18 PM (Quwsn)
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Axeman @ 210 said, "A lack of self-reflection seems to go hand-in-hand with progressivism."
True. But pain is a powerful teacher. They won the Hollywood fight because they could quietly inflict disemployment on Americans while enforcing a public rule that said it was "unamerican" to ban communists. Exactly the double standard Ace is railing against. If every known commie was being named, shamed and disemployed they would have quickly been willing to discuss terms for a cease fire, but since they were getting every benefit and suffering no cost, they had zero reason to reconsider.
True. But pain is a powerful teacher. They won the Hollywood fight because they could quietly inflict disemployment on Americans while enforcing a public rule that said it was "unamerican" to ban communists. Exactly the double standard Ace is railing against. If every known commie was being named, shamed and disemployed they would have quickly been willing to discuss terms for a cease fire, but since they were getting every benefit and suffering no cost, they had zero reason to reconsider.
Posted by: John Morris at May 31, 2017 07:18 PM (sCRhB)
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That I am caught in the middle getting shot by all sides is just what it is. (Must. Not. Make. Obvious. Joke. Must. Resist.)
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (dEQP3) fnord (dEQP3)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO USE THE WORD BUKKAKE
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 06:57 PM (dEQP3) fnord (dEQP3)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO USE THE WORD BUKKAKE
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at May 31, 2017 07:19 PM (3Liv/)
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As for the Venezuelans, they made their bed.
I think they, in their present form, are useful as a warning, and not much else.
Posted by: navybrat
++++++++
That's when all of this will break loose here in the US.
Even if Trump is reelected and Republicans control Congress, I still see some sort of dollar crisis and everyone figures out its toilet paper and our bonds can never be paid back.
Then this gets real.
Right now, everyone feels like they have something to lose. once that goes away, that's when it will get ugly.
I think they, in their present form, are useful as a warning, and not much else.
Posted by: navybrat
++++++++
That's when all of this will break loose here in the US.
Even if Trump is reelected and Republicans control Congress, I still see some sort of dollar crisis and everyone figures out its toilet paper and our bonds can never be paid back.
Then this gets real.
Right now, everyone feels like they have something to lose. once that goes away, that's when it will get ugly.
Posted by: xanax at May 31, 2017 07:19 PM (XHucz)
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Anyway...
yeah, Ace, this post is a SICK BURN! on the Left.
We need more Sick Burns on these shitbags, right in their stupid faces.
Anyway...
yeah, Ace, this post is a SICK BURN! on the Left.
We need more Sick Burns on these shitbags, right in their stupid faces.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:19 PM (rAqYf)
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India has lived off of its English.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (zc3Db)
And of course technical support for ALL the western tech companies. LMAO
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (zc3Db)
And of course technical support for ALL the western tech companies. LMAO
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 07:19 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 07:19 PM (GBWQj)
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It's a mental disease that has completely overtaken them. They are lost to us but I would fight anyone that tried to do this to someone else's child.
Pray for their souls. Satan has them.
Y'all remember the verse I used to keep in my nic, right?
Powers and principalities.
Pray for their souls. Satan has them.
Y'all remember the verse I used to keep in my nic, right?
Powers and principalities.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:20 PM (66CWr)
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You can NEVER reason with a bully. They only know the power of direct force and they WILL back down once you exercise said power.
My Father taught me and my 5 brothers that over 50 years ago and he was right.
This was clearly demonstrated at the protests a month or so ago in Berkeley when the Right bloodied up the ANTIFA anarchists. Living in the San Francisco Bay Area, you'd a thought a bomb went off.
Things have been pretty quiet ever since.
My Father taught me and my 5 brothers that over 50 years ago and he was right.
This was clearly demonstrated at the protests a month or so ago in Berkeley when the Right bloodied up the ANTIFA anarchists. Living in the San Francisco Bay Area, you'd a thought a bomb went off.
Things have been pretty quiet ever since.
Posted by: Dansgirls at May 31, 2017 07:20 PM (xBbs+)
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It's a mental disease that has completely overtaken them. They are lost to us but I would fight anyone that tried to do this to someone else's child.
Posted by: Abby at May 31, 2017 07:11 PM (HBU7W)
I'm sorry. That's is terrible. I agree it's a mental disease.
I'm hoping my son paying his own way will help open his eyes. I also pray we don't have to go as far as you have.
Posted by: Abby at May 31, 2017 07:11 PM (HBU7W)
I'm sorry. That's is terrible. I agree it's a mental disease.
I'm hoping my son paying his own way will help open his eyes. I also pray we don't have to go as far as you have.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 07:20 PM (Ri/rl)
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Olberman is calling for the immediate arrest of Kushner...LMAO
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:31 PM (SjImc)
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German name, Jewish name. We know what's going on.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 06:31 PM (SjImc)
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German name, Jewish name. We know what's going on.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 07:21 PM (2mC6G)
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305. Not for nothing is Based Stickman a patriotic hero for our people.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 31, 2017 07:21 PM (TwwWO)
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OT, but Obamas bought the house they were renting in DC, for over 8 million. Where did they get that kind of money? #corruption.
Posted by: IC at May 31, 2017 07:21 PM (a0IVu)
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When Viet Nam was happening, I wondered why we didn't fight the commies in Cuba. After all, the supply lines would be shorter.
Forget about Venezuela.
We have commies to fight right here in the USA.
Forget about Venezuela.
We have commies to fight right here in the USA.
Posted by: navybrat at May 31, 2017 07:21 PM (w7KSn)
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This, and more, is the fight against abortion as well.
We say, Life beings at conception, and we shouldn't be murdering babies.
PP says, Life is only valuable if the mother says it is, and until then it's just a blob of cells, and who are we to judge what a woman wants to do with a blob of cells?
We say, Should we not err on the side of caution? These are human babies, after all.
PP says, They aren't human until they are born.
We say, If they aren't human, what are they?
PP: Blob of cells. Like a tumor.
There is no discussion here, just talking past one another without understanding, and they continue killing babies without fear of that being taken away from them. The only thing they fear is losing those lovely federal dollars that allow them to expand into areas with lots of teenagers and poor blacks and hispanics.
So, we cut off the funding. QED.
We say, Life beings at conception, and we shouldn't be murdering babies.
PP says, Life is only valuable if the mother says it is, and until then it's just a blob of cells, and who are we to judge what a woman wants to do with a blob of cells?
We say, Should we not err on the side of caution? These are human babies, after all.
PP says, They aren't human until they are born.
We say, If they aren't human, what are they?
PP: Blob of cells. Like a tumor.
There is no discussion here, just talking past one another without understanding, and they continue killing babies without fear of that being taken away from them. The only thing they fear is losing those lovely federal dollars that allow them to expand into areas with lots of teenagers and poor blacks and hispanics.
So, we cut off the funding. QED.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 31, 2017 07:22 PM (NXsWM)
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When I decided to attention whore even more than usual? Or, you know, after I read what I typed and decided to beat your pervy mcpervs to the joke.
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (dEQP3) fnord (dEQP3)
Remember the Burger Mascot Wars? The Perv Queen has just called us McPervs.
Where's Perv Bell when you need them? Yo Quiero Bukkake!
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (dEQP3) fnord (dEQP3)
Remember the Burger Mascot Wars? The Perv Queen has just called us McPervs.
Where's Perv Bell when you need them? Yo Quiero Bukkake!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 31, 2017 07:22 PM (wB8Tg)
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Goldman bought the bonds in the secondary market, meaning that the government had already received the money from someone else and Goldman is simply taking a risk on the obligation for repayment.
No new money went to Venezuela.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (gIRsn)
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Thanks, I was listening to the story on the radio yesterday and obviously either missed those details or (more likely) those details were missing from the story.
Anybody who provided money to those thugs deserves to lose it, and not get to write it off their taxes as a bad investment.
No new money went to Venezuela.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (gIRsn)
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Thanks, I was listening to the story on the radio yesterday and obviously either missed those details or (more likely) those details were missing from the story.
Anybody who provided money to those thugs deserves to lose it, and not get to write it off their taxes as a bad investment.
Posted by: Boots at May 31, 2017 07:22 PM (EBwPV)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2017 07:22 PM (GBWQj)
Posted by: Lew at May 31, 2017 07:22 PM (WcYU8)
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Meanwhile, India owes most of its modern economy to the fact that the Brits colonized them. If they hadn't made English an official language in India you would see a country, today, with a billion people and a GDP of $132.44. India has lived off of its English.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (zc3Db)
Happy the country that was colonized by the British. Unhappy the country that was colonized by anybody else.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (zc3Db)
Happy the country that was colonized by the British. Unhappy the country that was colonized by anybody else.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 07:22 PM (SRKgf)
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You guys want to fight??
Well, the Left is out there right now with their faces covered armed with sticks and bottles.
Let's start with waking up the Republican Shits, first.
You guys want to fight??
Well, the Left is out there right now with their faces covered armed with sticks and bottles.
Let's start with waking up the Republican Shits, first.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:22 PM (rAqYf)
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The Atlanta Fed's GDP figures are often outside the consensus but turn out to be accurate. They have 2Q GDP growth at 3.8%.
Tide has been turning folks. It may not feel that way because it's not being reported.
This talk of civil war is frankly overwrought and silly even.
Tide has been turning folks. It may not feel that way because it's not being reported.
This talk of civil war is frankly overwrought and silly even.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM (+7/1f)
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Abby, I'm so sorry. I will add you to my prayers.
*tweet* *throws flag*
That's 15 yards and loss of down for spelling bukkake correctly whilst wearing a Roethlisberger sock.
*tweet* *throws flag*
That's 15 yards and loss of down for spelling bukkake correctly whilst wearing a Roethlisberger sock.
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM (dEQP3)
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Meanwhile Lewandowski says that Republicans can either unite behind the president or lose the 2018 elections.
"President Trump was elected to change the country ... You can get on board that train or you can lose your next election."
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:35 PM (+7/1f)
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For establishment republicans that is immaterial, as long as they keep their seat. Probably would prefer to be out of power, no pressure to perform.
Meanwhile Lewandowski says that Republicans can either unite behind the president or lose the 2018 elections.
"President Trump was elected to change the country ... You can get on board that train or you can lose your next election."
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 06:35 PM (+7/1f)
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For establishment republicans that is immaterial, as long as they keep their seat. Probably would prefer to be out of power, no pressure to perform.
Posted by: Javems at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM (yOqwj)
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Regarding Venezuela - Goldman Sachs just gave them Billions with a B - bought a whole bunch of bonds with a supposed 40% rate of return.
So the murderous thugs have billions of dollars to purchase more arms & bullets to kill the democracy demonstrators.
The opposition leader said that if he ever comes to power he will default on the bonds as punishment to Goldman Sachs for supporting the oppression.
Regarding Venezuela - Goldman Sachs just gave them Billions with a B - bought a whole bunch of bonds with a supposed 40% rate of return.
So the murderous thugs have billions of dollars to purchase more arms & bullets to kill the democracy demonstrators.
The opposition leader said that if he ever comes to power he will default on the bonds as punishment to Goldman Sachs for supporting the oppression.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM (IqV8l)
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Ace, you go on and on and on. There is a simple, three word solution:
Ready, aim, fire.
Posted by: Lew at May 31, 2017 07:22 PM (WcYU
"Loot, pillage, THEN burn"
Ready, aim, fire.
Posted by: Lew at May 31, 2017 07:22 PM (WcYU
"Loot, pillage, THEN burn"
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 07:24 PM (fKWf6)
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Welcome to the alt-right.
Posted by: Mark Dietzler at May 31, 2017 07:24 PM (l4v7P)
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Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2017 06:30 PM (3OIiX)
We are just beginning to fight back. But we are not winning. And it is not just the awful vile SJW and the idiots like KG. It is also the Democrat Party and the organizations with which they are allied. And the GOPe.
We only have so much time until the next election. They have already, with the help of the GOPe, tied up the Congress and this Executive with the baseless Trump/Russia crap which will go on for 4 years. Voting is fraudulent, to be kind. And there is ample evidence of it. And then there are the leaks -- beyond which anything we have ever seen.
The enemy is in the streets, in the universities, and in the government, including the Congress. Where to start?
We are just beginning to fight back. But we are not winning. And it is not just the awful vile SJW and the idiots like KG. It is also the Democrat Party and the organizations with which they are allied. And the GOPe.
We only have so much time until the next election. They have already, with the help of the GOPe, tied up the Congress and this Executive with the baseless Trump/Russia crap which will go on for 4 years. Voting is fraudulent, to be kind. And there is ample evidence of it. And then there are the leaks -- beyond which anything we have ever seen.
The enemy is in the streets, in the universities, and in the government, including the Congress. Where to start?
Posted by: gracepc at May 31, 2017 07:24 PM (OU4q6)
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That's 15 yards and loss of down for spelling bukkake correctly whilst wearing a Roethlisberger sock.
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM (dEQP3)
There's a "coverage" joke in there somewhere, but I'm not enough of a football fan to make it.
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM (dEQP3)
There's a "coverage" joke in there somewhere, but I'm not enough of a football fan to make it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 07:25 PM (fKWf6)
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All PDT had to do was tweet the following and the left would be running for cover.
Why is Kathy Griffin holding up the severed head of Alec Baldwin?
Why is Kathy Griffin holding up the severed head of Alec Baldwin?
Posted by: charley horse at May 31, 2017 07:25 PM (+kahX)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:25 PM (rAqYf)
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Brilliant piece Ace. Caste captures the essence of the our reality. Shared.
Posted by: I'd rather be Surfin at May 31, 2017 07:25 PM (0VtiW)
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That's 15 yards and loss of down for spelling bukkake correctly whilst wearing a Roethlisberger sock.
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there
Objection, prove to me Roethlisberger isn't well familiar with the subject...
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there
Objection, prove to me Roethlisberger isn't well familiar with the subject...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:25 PM (66CWr)
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Daily Reminder: Leftism is a Satanic Cult.
Posted by: Mega at May 31, 2017 07:25 PM (rv0Fo)
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So many people are anxious to turn their neighborhood into Beirut.
All that's necessary is to put half as much energy into town halls and government offices as the lefties who freaking *set up camp* there.
As destructive and obnoxious as they are, they *are* doing the boots on the ground work. YES, courts should not be letting them get away with so much unconstitutional crap, NO we shouldn't have to fight all that every day.... but we DO have to fight it every day, and we aren't doing that.
All that's necessary is to put half as much energy into town halls and government offices as the lefties who freaking *set up camp* there.
As destructive and obnoxious as they are, they *are* doing the boots on the ground work. YES, courts should not be letting them get away with so much unconstitutional crap, NO we shouldn't have to fight all that every day.... but we DO have to fight it every day, and we aren't doing that.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 31, 2017 07:26 PM (wB8Tg)
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I don't want this war, no sane person does, but I want even less to live in fear as a nonperson in one of those future totalitarian societies out of the Twilight Zone and sci-fi films.
For starters as Ace said, we can stop treating OURSELVES as lesser citizens in hopes that the elite and their shock troops will treat us fairly. We can stop seeing them as "betters" and nothing more than well connected whores who lucked into a position in the "upper caste" if they weren't already born into it.
For starters as Ace said, we can stop treating OURSELVES as lesser citizens in hopes that the elite and their shock troops will treat us fairly. We can stop seeing them as "betters" and nothing more than well connected whores who lucked into a position in the "upper caste" if they weren't already born into it.
Posted by: kbdabear at May 31, 2017 07:26 PM (AOrEZ)
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Ace you are right on but in the future please consider indulging your loyal band of counter revolutionaries by saying...
No FUCKING more!
No FUCKING more!
Posted by: Lower class person whose opinions must be guided at May 31, 2017 07:26 PM (oBuXO)
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Stop using the left's phraseology.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:25 PM (rAqYf)
100% spot on
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:25 PM (rAqYf)
100% spot on
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 07:26 PM (SjImc)
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Ace has finally opened the window and aired the faint remaining whiff of cuck out of this place.
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 07:26 PM (DQ4Fv)
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Also one of them says "we had civilization before you ever did -we built these cities when you were coming out of caves."
These students don't even know what being civil means!
Posted by: Glenn John at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (LilNs)
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They're also pretty damn ignorant of the racist descriptions the paler Egyptians wrote of the down-river (jungle) "Nubians".
These students don't even know what being civil means!
Posted by: Glenn John at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (LilNs)
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They're also pretty damn ignorant of the racist descriptions the paler Egyptians wrote of the down-river (jungle) "Nubians".
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 07:26 PM (2mC6G)
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330 Daily Reminder: Leftism is a Satanic Cult.
Posted by: Mega at May 31, 2017 07:25 PM (rv0Fo)
Add the muzzies to that list and you have a complete understanding of the democrap party.
Posted by: Mega at May 31, 2017 07:25 PM (rv0Fo)
Add the muzzies to that list and you have a complete understanding of the democrap party.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 31, 2017 07:26 PM (NXsWM)
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No FUCKING more!
Posted by: Lower class person whose opinions must be guided at May 31, 2017 07:26 PM (oBuXO)
Every FUCKIN day
Posted by: Lower class person whose opinions must be guided at May 31, 2017 07:26 PM (oBuXO)
Every FUCKIN day
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 07:27 PM (SjImc)
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Ace's post isn't much different different from things people have been writing about for years. The Quakers would still be waiting on King George if the radicals hadn't forced the issue with rebellion and violence.
Talk is just wind.
Talk is just wind.
Posted by: 13times at May 31, 2017 07:27 PM (WHVu+)
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Objection, prove to me Roethlisberger isn't well familiar with the subject...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:25 PM (66CWr)
Oh I'm certain he's familiar with the subject.
I just don't think he can spell cat if you spot him the c, the a and the t.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 07:25 PM (66CWr)
Oh I'm certain he's familiar with the subject.
I just don't think he can spell cat if you spot him the c, the a and the t.
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 07:28 PM (dEQP3)
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They can all go to grass, and I'm willing to help them along.
Posted by: True the Note at May 31, 2017 07:28 PM (SJ184)
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I think this goes a little deeper than the political. In all honesty I think that the left could have taken a Hillary loss to another Republican, but not to Donald Trump. The loss to Donald, I think, was not only a political slap in the face it was a cultural slap in the face. The left has frequently said it won the culture wars. It said this when Obama won a second term. See if Ted Cruz had won, they could have amused themselves mocking the "Backwards Christian Right". Donald doesn't pretend to be all that religious and God know he is no moral Puritan. What is the left supposed to do with this? They not only lost the election but they lost to someone who although rich is NOT part of the club. He is not cultured, he is crass, he speaks his mind, and he is often showing a disgusting level of patriotism that is not kosher in elite circles. Donald Trump is not just a political loss it is a cultural loss that has them going nuts. It has been interesting seeing masks come off finding just how pervasive this is in both parties.
Posted by: lightning at May 31, 2017 07:28 PM (oJSnD)
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336 Also one of them says "we had civilization before you ever did -we built these cities when you were coming out of caves."
These students don't even know what being civil means!
Posted by: Glenn John at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (LilNs)
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They're also pretty damn ignorant of the racist descriptions the paler Egyptians wrote of the down-river (jungle) "Nubians".
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 07:26 PM (2mC6G)
No idea of history, at all.
Just the way the public schools like it.
Makes 'em better assholes for the cause.
These students don't even know what being civil means!
Posted by: Glenn John at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (LilNs)
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They're also pretty damn ignorant of the racist descriptions the paler Egyptians wrote of the down-river (jungle) "Nubians".
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 07:26 PM (2mC6G)
No idea of history, at all.
Just the way the public schools like it.
Makes 'em better assholes for the cause.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 31, 2017 07:28 PM (NXsWM)
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Excellent essay, ace, as always.
The biggest problem is the Media. They are the ones enabling and shielding the Justice Babies from the treatment they deserve.
Without the Media, the Justice Babies and the Democrats and all the Progressives, would wither away and die.
The biggest problem is the Media. They are the ones enabling and shielding the Justice Babies from the treatment they deserve.
Without the Media, the Justice Babies and the Democrats and all the Progressives, would wither away and die.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 31, 2017 07:28 PM (MZcWR)
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Re: Goldman: "Meanwhile, emerging market bond market participants familiar with Venezuelan debt said there was no effective secondary market for the bonds in question, which were first issued by the state-owned oil company PDVSA [PDVSA.UL.] in 2014 and held entirely by the country's central bank until recently.
Goldman paid 31 cents on the dollar for the bonds, which mature in October 2022, Borges' letter said. At that price, the bonds would yield more than 40 percent compared with their stated coupon of 6 percent.
Goldman acquired the bonds from Dinosaur Financial Group, two sources familiar with deal told Reuters."
It sounds like Maduro cooked up a phony middleman. At a minimum though, it puts people eating out of dumpsters on the hook for loan shark rates.
$hame.
Goldman paid 31 cents on the dollar for the bonds, which mature in October 2022, Borges' letter said. At that price, the bonds would yield more than 40 percent compared with their stated coupon of 6 percent.
Goldman acquired the bonds from Dinosaur Financial Group, two sources familiar with deal told Reuters."
It sounds like Maduro cooked up a phony middleman. At a minimum though, it puts people eating out of dumpsters on the hook for loan shark rates.
$hame.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 31, 2017 07:29 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 31, 2017 07:29 PM (MINbv)
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Hmm, written by a guy with a toxic masculinity problem. Semper Fi Mac.
Posted by: Toxic Masculinity Retired at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (DxWUs)
Heh! Spare me. Maybe you could point me to a civilization founded on scholastic achievement that hadn't previously been subjugated or fought for it's existence.
Posted by: Toxic Masculinity Retired at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (DxWUs)
Heh! Spare me. Maybe you could point me to a civilization founded on scholastic achievement that hadn't previously been subjugated or fought for it's existence.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 07:29 PM (Xr2/U)
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I mentioned it before.
I will turn the other cheek.
- However i only have 2.
I do not want to fight
- If you make me, prepare to lose.
This is not going to end well, we are looking at a civil war not of color but or thought.
1984 v 1776 if you will.
I will turn the other cheek.
- However i only have 2.
I do not want to fight
- If you make me, prepare to lose.
This is not going to end well, we are looking at a civil war not of color but or thought.
1984 v 1776 if you will.
Posted by: fox at May 31, 2017 07:30 PM (3s9iz)
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Yes, you can not speak to polls, and or do what the world does with an overbearing government and sell goods on the street behind a fence.
Reduce the size of the governments lever being used against you.
Reduce the size of the governments lever being used against you.
Posted by: tragedy of the commons at May 31, 2017 07:30 PM (o637i)
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As for the Venezuelans, they made their bed.
I think they, in their present form, are useful as a warning, and not much else.
Posted by: navybrat
There was a time, I think, when we would have helped the people in the streets suffering, but now as mentioned above, Goldman Sachs just enables the government to keep their power.
Unfortunately right now, our biggest enemy is at home. The rest of the world is going to have to pull its own weight.
As for the Venezuelans, they made their bed.
I think they, in their present form, are useful as a warning, and not much else.
Posted by: navybrat
There was a time, I think, when we would have helped the people in the streets suffering, but now as mentioned above, Goldman Sachs just enables the government to keep their power.
Unfortunately right now, our biggest enemy is at home. The rest of the world is going to have to pull its own weight.
Posted by: gracepc at May 31, 2017 07:30 PM (OU4q6)
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That's 15 yards and loss of down for spelling bukkake correctly whilst wearing a Roethlisberger sock.
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THAT'S A TYPO OF A MISSPELLING.
THE KK KKEY ON MY KKEYBOARD STICKS SOMETIMES
I THINKK YOU KKNOW WHY
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THAT'S A TYPO OF A MISSPELLING.
THE KK KKEY ON MY KKEYBOARD STICKS SOMETIMES
I THINKK YOU KKNOW WHY
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at May 31, 2017 07:30 PM (3Liv/)
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It has been interesting seeing masks come off finding just how pervasive this is in both parties.
Posted by: lightning at May 31, 2017 07:28 PM (oJSnD)
But of course, that's not how they phrase it. They claim that his directness or his crassness or his patriotism is somehow a threat to all we hold dear in the country, when it actually IS what we hold dear in this country.
Posted by: lightning at May 31, 2017 07:28 PM (oJSnD)
But of course, that's not how they phrase it. They claim that his directness or his crassness or his patriotism is somehow a threat to all we hold dear in the country, when it actually IS what we hold dear in this country.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 31, 2017 07:30 PM (NXsWM)
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So I'm a bit torn here. Why do we fight the left? Why should people step up here? More to the point, why shouldn't people be serfs? All our "betters" tell us so.
That's the foremost issue here: the failure of the right to stand for something. There's no cause; no theses nailed to a door.
Yes, we shouldn't be serfs... but why? Why is free speech better than hate speech? Why shouldn't government take care of the poor and provide healthcare?
We've had the Paul Ryans and the McCains plus the active malfeasance of the media, and the right has simply lost its voice. We don't stand for something important anymore; we just want our goodies--low taxes, government to not force us to cater to militant gays. Well, why shouldn't' the government protect gays from "bigoted Christian haters?"
The answers I think most if not all of us know, but we don't have a coherent platform. Freedom! Yes, but why is that important, when Mother Hillary promises to take care of all my wants? Why should I be free, when I can be a serf? We've found out that freedom is not important to Islamic countries, for the most part-- if they get freedom they promptly enslave themselves far worse to the Imams.
Before we go to war with the left, we have to have a message that is clear and compelling: Why are we fighting? To defend our wives, our children, our liberties, and our worship. To defend the idea that every man or woman is equal. Something pithy and easy to comprehend.
This war will not be won without converts. It's that simple. And what are we preaching is the better alternative to a life of easy serfdom?
That's the foremost issue here: the failure of the right to stand for something. There's no cause; no theses nailed to a door.
Yes, we shouldn't be serfs... but why? Why is free speech better than hate speech? Why shouldn't government take care of the poor and provide healthcare?
We've had the Paul Ryans and the McCains plus the active malfeasance of the media, and the right has simply lost its voice. We don't stand for something important anymore; we just want our goodies--low taxes, government to not force us to cater to militant gays. Well, why shouldn't' the government protect gays from "bigoted Christian haters?"
The answers I think most if not all of us know, but we don't have a coherent platform. Freedom! Yes, but why is that important, when Mother Hillary promises to take care of all my wants? Why should I be free, when I can be a serf? We've found out that freedom is not important to Islamic countries, for the most part-- if they get freedom they promptly enslave themselves far worse to the Imams.
Before we go to war with the left, we have to have a message that is clear and compelling: Why are we fighting? To defend our wives, our children, our liberties, and our worship. To defend the idea that every man or woman is equal. Something pithy and easy to comprehend.
This war will not be won without converts. It's that simple. And what are we preaching is the better alternative to a life of easy serfdom?
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 07:31 PM (HcgJZ)
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but, you see, this thing is...if we don't subjugate ourselves into a second class caste, then we'll drive the moderates into the arms of Maoism and we'll lose them for ever. Better to publicly disclaim our own beliefs so that we don't appear to intemperate. That way, by decrying our own values, the moderates will flock to them.
Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at May 31, 2017 07:31 PM (g9A94)
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This talk of civil war is frankly overwrought and silly even.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM (+7/1f)
Nope, I knew were on a path to civil war the moment Obama was elected in 2008. Because you can't have half of the population trying to ram Communism down the other half's throats without bloodshed.
I frankly thought it would have started by now, but apparently there was more resilience in American society than I thought.
I haven't changed my mind, and the unhinged behavior of the Left since the election is evidence in my favor. They now loudly and openly proclaim that they will not accept the results of an election that they did not win. There is no possibility of peaceful coexistence with such people.
This talk of civil war is frankly overwrought and silly even.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM (+7/1f)
Nope, I knew were on a path to civil war the moment Obama was elected in 2008. Because you can't have half of the population trying to ram Communism down the other half's throats without bloodshed.
I frankly thought it would have started by now, but apparently there was more resilience in American society than I thought.
I haven't changed my mind, and the unhinged behavior of the Left since the election is evidence in my favor. They now loudly and openly proclaim that they will not accept the results of an election that they did not win. There is no possibility of peaceful coexistence with such people.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 07:32 PM (sdi6R)
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35 For the life of me, I couldn't understand why we weren't passing around photshops of a beheaded Kathy Griffin. Right? Don't bring a knife to a gun fight, for heaven's sake.
How can the SJW's argue that it's wrong or in poor taste? Give it right back I say.
Posted by: Frankns at May 31, 2017 06:29 PM (y4aiO)
NO!
Photoshop the scrunt as a homeless bag lady living in a box under the Freeway.
Or being perp walked by the Secret Service.
In the Tumbril cart heading to the Guillotine.
Be Original. Don't follow the idiocy of the left.
***And for the Photographer***
He needs to be called out, shamed and driven from public.
How can the SJW's argue that it's wrong or in poor taste? Give it right back I say.
Posted by: Frankns at May 31, 2017 06:29 PM (y4aiO)
NO!
Photoshop the scrunt as a homeless bag lady living in a box under the Freeway.
Or being perp walked by the Secret Service.
In the Tumbril cart heading to the Guillotine.
Be Original. Don't follow the idiocy of the left.
***And for the Photographer***
He needs to be called out, shamed and driven from public.
Posted by: rd at May 31, 2017 07:32 PM (XSEwK)
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it is so ingrained it is why the host of this site and the commenters have to try to remain anonymous; because the left will try to destroy you for deviating from their approved thoughts or objecting to them taking half your income.
Posted by: Lord Sir Covfefe at May 31, 2017 07:32 PM (nFwvY)
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This war will not be won without converts. It's that simple. And what are we preaching is the better alternative to a life of easy serfdom?
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 07:31 PM (HcgJZ)
These are excellent points.
This war will not be won without converts. It's that simple. And what are we preaching is the better alternative to a life of easy serfdom?
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 07:31 PM (HcgJZ)
These are excellent points.
Posted by: alexthechick - at this point I think there's a beach up in there at May 31, 2017 07:32 PM (dEQP3)
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My children are grown adults with jobs and mortgages and still agree with this progressive BS. I don't pretend to understand this, but I expect a Civil War pt. II. Maybe this summer, maybe at the next election if we can hold on, but it will be soon and it won't be pretty.
Posted by: Abby at May 31, 2017 07:33 PM (HBU7W)
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AG Sessions could really get the ball rolling if he is doing as I hope he is doing, i.e., laying low because he is going from war room to war room where he has a battalion of white hat prosecutors working up indictments against: (1)Soros/NGOs fucking with this country and others, (2)Hillary/Huma/Mills/Campaign minions, (3)Rice/Brennan/IC leakers/Reporters of classified materials, (4)Mayors, City Councils and Governors of Sanctuary cities/states, (5)Bob Creamer/DNC for thug tactics and, topping it off, the (6) Pizzagate/Pedogate pedophile elites. Drop them all in a single day. That will set them back on their heels trying to 'splain that all away.
Posted by: pissed off oddnot at May 31, 2017 07:33 PM (g1MTt)
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Perhaps the elite at the top who know that a civil war could ruin their fortunes no matter what the outcome, perhaps they'll remember the words of Yamamoto after Pearl Harbor;
"I fear that all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve"
"I fear that all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve"
Posted by: kbdabear at May 31, 2017 07:33 PM (AOrEZ)
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Molon Labe
Posted by: True the Note at May 31, 2017 07:33 PM (SJ184)
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The answers I think most if not all of us know, but we don't have a coherent platform.
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 07:31 PM (HcgJZ)
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Yes, I think a lot of us know it's the G-word. But that makes "Theocracy!!!"
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 07:31 PM (HcgJZ)
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Yes, I think a lot of us know it's the G-word. But that makes "Theocracy!!!"
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 07:34 PM (2mC6G)
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Regardless, we'll always love Mary Clogginstein.
Posted by: SFGoth at May 31, 2017 07:34 PM (dZ756)
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it is so ingrained it is why the host of this site and the commenters have to try to remain anonymous; because the left will try to destroy you for deviating from their approved thoughts or objecting to them taking half your income.
Posted by: Lord Sir Covfefe at May 31, 2017 07:32 PM (nFwvY)
ALL my patients know where I stand. For better or for worse
Posted by: Lord Sir Covfefe at May 31, 2017 07:32 PM (nFwvY)
ALL my patients know where I stand. For better or for worse
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 07:34 PM (SjImc)
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Well put, ace (no surprise).
What I find most telling is that KG *felt*'that she was perfectly justified/comfortable doing the Left had already prepped the space.
That is, she believed it was just fine.
Interesting, that.
What I find most telling is that KG *felt*'that she was perfectly justified/comfortable doing the Left had already prepped the space.
That is, she believed it was just fine.
Interesting, that.
Posted by: ibguy at May 31, 2017 07:34 PM (vUcdz)
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"It is imperative we begin emulating the left in its tactics."
Emulating isn't enough. Outstripping them is what is needed. There's a lot of ground, especially in the realms of organization, funding, and mindset, where simply playing catch-up won't do. Think of it as the Battle of the Atlantic, or post-Pearl Harbor PTO: every effort has to be made to not only leap-frog ahead, but to do so quickly and overwhelmingly.
Emulating isn't enough. Outstripping them is what is needed. There's a lot of ground, especially in the realms of organization, funding, and mindset, where simply playing catch-up won't do. Think of it as the Battle of the Atlantic, or post-Pearl Harbor PTO: every effort has to be made to not only leap-frog ahead, but to do so quickly and overwhelmingly.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at May 31, 2017 07:35 PM (rznWS)
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What I find most telling is that KG *felt*'that she was perfectly justified/comfortable doing the Left had already prepped the space.
exactly
exactly
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 07:35 PM (SjImc)
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I'm glad you've gotten to this point, ace. I've been there since 2007 as i watched the rise of Obama and his truly frightening mindless crowds of lefty zombies. I saw them defend Jeremiah Wright taking a gleeful hateful dump on America... FIVE DAYS AFTER 9/11... while the bodies were still smoldering and lower manhattan was consumed by the stench of death... while Obama watched and no doubt applauded.
At the time I wished I had seen it sooner but I was naive. The media is the enemy and Democrats are guided by Satan. I mean every word of that. Those that dont quite know what i mean, or disagree... thats fine, as sure as ace has come to this point, you will see it. There will be no peace with the Left.
Ever. They are the political cousin of Islam. They 100% intend to kill us all.
They thought they were almost there. Until November 6th.
At the time I wished I had seen it sooner but I was naive. The media is the enemy and Democrats are guided by Satan. I mean every word of that. Those that dont quite know what i mean, or disagree... thats fine, as sure as ace has come to this point, you will see it. There will be no peace with the Left.
Ever. They are the political cousin of Islam. They 100% intend to kill us all.
They thought they were almost there. Until November 6th.
Posted by: Mega at May 31, 2017 07:35 PM (rv0Fo)
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Donald has a long covfefe. Repeat, Donald has a long covfefe.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 07:37 PM (LTHVh)
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Posted by: lightning at May 31, 2017 07:28 PM (oJSnD)
There is a *lot* of "not our class, dear" behind that opposition to Trump.
There is a *lot* of "not our class, dear" behind that opposition to Trump.
Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 31, 2017 07:38 PM (17QyB)
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"As for the Venezuelans, they made their bed."
Actually, Jimmy Carter did, certifying Chavez's stolen election. Just like Democrats do here.
See also MacAuliffe, Foreigners voting in Virginia.
(As opposed to MacAuliffe, paying off the FBI's McCabe for Clinton. Inc.)
Actually, Jimmy Carter did, certifying Chavez's stolen election. Just like Democrats do here.
See also MacAuliffe, Foreigners voting in Virginia.
(As opposed to MacAuliffe, paying off the FBI's McCabe for Clinton. Inc.)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 31, 2017 07:38 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: DaveA at May 31, 2017 07:39 PM (FhXTo)
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352: tcn in AK
Your comment made me think of some article recently written trying to understand Never Trumpers (it was posted at Legal Insurrection). I have read a lot of Never Trump articles, opinions, and comments across various blogs and one aspect continued to come to the forefront every time. The complaints of these folks are that Trump does not "conduct himself appropriately" for the office of the President and that he is not a "true" conservative. My immediate reaction upon reading that is "What happened to "Hold your nose because this is the best we can get" or "This is as conservative as the culture will allow"? I agree with Ace that they college level cry babies need to be put in check, but we also need to realize that there are other more subtle crybabies who are in positions of power that also need to be put in check. Trump has truly shown where the allegiance of some Republicans lie and it isn't with small government or the "little people".
Your comment made me think of some article recently written trying to understand Never Trumpers (it was posted at Legal Insurrection). I have read a lot of Never Trump articles, opinions, and comments across various blogs and one aspect continued to come to the forefront every time. The complaints of these folks are that Trump does not "conduct himself appropriately" for the office of the President and that he is not a "true" conservative. My immediate reaction upon reading that is "What happened to "Hold your nose because this is the best we can get" or "This is as conservative as the culture will allow"? I agree with Ace that they college level cry babies need to be put in check, but we also need to realize that there are other more subtle crybabies who are in positions of power that also need to be put in check. Trump has truly shown where the allegiance of some Republicans lie and it isn't with small government or the "little people".
Posted by: lightning at May 31, 2017 07:39 PM (oJSnD)
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366 Well put, ace (no surprise).
What I find most telling is that KG *felt*'that she was perfectly justified/comfortable doing the Left had already prepped the space.
That is, she believed it was just fine.
Interesting, that.
Posted by: ibguy at May 31, 2017 07:34 PM (vUcdz)
Not really surprising though. They have been whipping themselves up and trying to outdo one another for 8 months now.
I am actually surprised that someone has not taken a shot at Trump, given their rhetoric. They keep using more and more dire rhetoric, and some have even come out and said they wish someone would take him out. Hell, we have had people asking about assassins and KO asking for foreign intelligence services to "take out" the president.
I think leftists all agree that what she did was hilarious, but it is a bit too 'on the nose' for them. They want a case where some nut does the job for them, but they have plausible deniability.
What I find most telling is that KG *felt*'that she was perfectly justified/comfortable doing the Left had already prepped the space.
That is, she believed it was just fine.
Interesting, that.
Posted by: ibguy at May 31, 2017 07:34 PM (vUcdz)
Not really surprising though. They have been whipping themselves up and trying to outdo one another for 8 months now.
I am actually surprised that someone has not taken a shot at Trump, given their rhetoric. They keep using more and more dire rhetoric, and some have even come out and said they wish someone would take him out. Hell, we have had people asking about assassins and KO asking for foreign intelligence services to "take out" the president.
I think leftists all agree that what she did was hilarious, but it is a bit too 'on the nose' for them. They want a case where some nut does the job for them, but they have plausible deniability.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 07:39 PM (ZgkX8)
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The ONLY... and I mean only nice thing about the Left's plan to murder us... is that they will also take out 75% of their own for not being lefty enough.
Posted by: Mega at May 31, 2017 07:39 PM (rv0Fo)
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I think that the left could have taken a Hillary loss to another Republican, but not to Donald Trump.
Let me be your warrior! I will beat back the radical left.
Let me be your warrior! I will beat back the radical left.
Posted by: ¡Jeb! at May 31, 2017 07:39 PM (vRcUp)
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This talk of civil war is frankly overwrought and silly even.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM (+7/1f)
Then don't bother getting up off the couch.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM (+7/1f)
Then don't bother getting up off the couch.
Posted by: Monty James at May 31, 2017 07:39 PM (gKOMX)
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367 & 368. Going after the livelihood of the photographer - Tyler Shields, whose work is, surprisingly, well-done if a bit predictable - would be a good start. Flood the fashion houses and magazines that use his services with demands that they stop associating with this lowlife.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 31, 2017 07:39 PM (TwwWO)
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Heh! Spare me. Maybe you could point me to a
civilization founded on scholastic achievement that hadn't previously
been subjugated or fought for it's existence.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 07:29 PM (Xr2/U)
I don't explain jokes.
civilization founded on scholastic achievement that hadn't previously
been subjugated or fought for it's existence.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 07:29 PM (Xr2/U)
I don't explain jokes.
Posted by: Toxic Masculinity Retired at May 31, 2017 07:39 PM (DxWUs)
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I propose we start with something simple.
Just One Thing.
Every day we do Just One Thing to advance our cause. Just one. But we need to do it together to make a difference.
For instance, one day we pick out a Republican Shit and we bombard his/her office with phone calls, tweets, etc.
We have a Voice. Let's use it. Then we can hit the streets and break heads if we have to.
I propose we start with something simple.
Just One Thing.
Every day we do Just One Thing to advance our cause. Just one. But we need to do it together to make a difference.
For instance, one day we pick out a Republican Shit and we bombard his/her office with phone calls, tweets, etc.
We have a Voice. Let's use it. Then we can hit the streets and break heads if we have to.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:40 PM (rAqYf)
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Short story to tell from today.
Got to work at 6am in Phila and my forman wasn't there yet to unlock "our" gate because of a union picket. So drove around to another and it w0as blockaded by vehicals so went around block and forman opened our gate. Well the Electric workers union then blocked all around with about 15 vehicals and a giant blow up fat cat which I never saw before. They were there till 9am before packing up, and forman told me they agreed to take 2 Union electricians.
Got to work at 6am in Phila and my forman wasn't there yet to unlock "our" gate because of a union picket. So drove around to another and it w0as blockaded by vehicals so went around block and forman opened our gate. Well the Electric workers union then blocked all around with about 15 vehicals and a giant blow up fat cat which I never saw before. They were there till 9am before packing up, and forman told me they agreed to take 2 Union electricians.
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 07:41 PM (Ot7+c)
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370 Donald has a long covfefe. Repeat, Donald has a long covfefe.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 07:37 PM (LTHVh)
The long sobs of autumn's violins wound my heart with a monotonous covfefe.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 07:37 PM (LTHVh)
The long sobs of autumn's violins wound my heart with a monotonous covfefe.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 07:41 PM (ZgkX8)
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"This talk of civil war is frankly overwrought and silly even.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM"
No, frankly, it isn't. Go read contemporaneous accounts of the political and social climate in this country in 1857 - 1860 and you will be astounded and shocked at how similar the emotions and actions were to today. States were using their judicial courts to harass other states, cities were starting to found their own militias to support their dominant political goals - the US didn't become militarized by the 1861 secession, it was already completely militarized and divided, and waiting like the proverbial powderkeg for any lit match.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM"
No, frankly, it isn't. Go read contemporaneous accounts of the political and social climate in this country in 1857 - 1860 and you will be astounded and shocked at how similar the emotions and actions were to today. States were using their judicial courts to harass other states, cities were starting to found their own militias to support their dominant political goals - the US didn't become militarized by the 1861 secession, it was already completely militarized and divided, and waiting like the proverbial powderkeg for any lit match.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2017 07:41 PM (V2Yro)
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Note that Chelsea tweeted that it "wasn't funny". She said nothing about its moral right or wrongness.
Posted by: Mega at May 31, 2017 07:41 PM (rv0Fo)
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"Nope, I knew were on a path to civil war the moment Obama was elected in 2008. Because you can't have half of the population trying to ram Communism down the other half's throats without bloodshed."
MSM is losing, slowly but surely. They're being made to look ridiculous. Russiagate will be their Chicken Little moment. May take a year to fully play out.
Colleges will start going broke, and will be forced to change. May take a few more years. Insty has been on this for years.
The economy has been picking up, and will continue to chug along. Regulatory reform is already a help. Also the self-fulfilling idea that America is where you want to do business. Tax reform will add to this.
OCare will fail. A crisis will force needed reforms. Trump has positioned this so that the blame is on the Ds (and the GOPe if they're not careful).
Progress has been made on Immigration. More to come.
Rs will keep the House in 2018, and pick up at least six seats in the Senate. Trump will actively campaign here.
I am concerned that Sessions needs to get his ass in gear on several fronts including leakers.
MSM is losing, slowly but surely. They're being made to look ridiculous. Russiagate will be their Chicken Little moment. May take a year to fully play out.
Colleges will start going broke, and will be forced to change. May take a few more years. Insty has been on this for years.
The economy has been picking up, and will continue to chug along. Regulatory reform is already a help. Also the self-fulfilling idea that America is where you want to do business. Tax reform will add to this.
OCare will fail. A crisis will force needed reforms. Trump has positioned this so that the blame is on the Ds (and the GOPe if they're not careful).
Progress has been made on Immigration. More to come.
Rs will keep the House in 2018, and pick up at least six seats in the Senate. Trump will actively campaign here.
I am concerned that Sessions needs to get his ass in gear on several fronts including leakers.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:41 PM (+7/1f)
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Note that Chelsea tweeted that it "wasn't funny". She said nothing about its moral right or wrongness.
Posted by: Mega
In fairness, growing up in the Clinton household, she isn't equipped to understand moral right or wrong.
Posted by: Mega
In fairness, growing up in the Clinton household, she isn't equipped to understand moral right or wrong.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 07:42 PM (6FqZa)
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The biggest problem is the Media. They are the ones enabling and shielding the Justice Babies from the treatment they deserve.
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The media exists to sell advertising. That is their ONLY source of income.
Advertising. Cut off their ad funding and they have no way to pay those Smart Anchors their salaries.
Bocott advertisers.
That is a tactic.
Also, for those who are adventurous, go to 4chan politically incorrect. There are a lot of young people out there who are fed up and are looking to bust heads. Be forewarned-- there is lots of racisim and prejudice there, but, for the most part, there is a lot of Trump support and they want to take action and live in a decent country
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The media exists to sell advertising. That is their ONLY source of income.
Advertising. Cut off their ad funding and they have no way to pay those Smart Anchors their salaries.
Bocott advertisers.
That is a tactic.
Also, for those who are adventurous, go to 4chan politically incorrect. There are a lot of young people out there who are fed up and are looking to bust heads. Be forewarned-- there is lots of racisim and prejudice there, but, for the most part, there is a lot of Trump support and they want to take action and live in a decent country
Posted by: shibumi at May 31, 2017 07:43 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: Joe Mama at May 31, 2017 07:43 PM (MZi7T)
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It was Rush Limbaugh who correctly diagnosed Chelsea's father as not dishonest, but a-honest. Bill Clinton doesn't know what a lie is, either.
(Hillary actually does. She just enjoys lying.)
(Hillary actually does. She just enjoys lying.)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 07:43 PM (6FqZa)
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I think we need to define what freedom is: it's not "I can do whatever I want!" Well, it is... but what does that mean? The freedom to do something is also the freedom to NOT do something.
The left offers nothing but coercion and loss of freedom of choice. You must buy this health care. You must bake that cake. You must not say anything we disapprove of. The right offers you the ability to say that Islam sucks. That no, you don't have to bake that cake, or even serve a Christian. Most importantly, the right asks that in exchange for your freedom, you use it to govern yourself. Who is the real man or woman: the self reliant, self mastered person or the slave to a government check?
This, I think, is the core choice we should offer: stand up against slavery. Ace was getting at it with the whole "serf" bit; but the left doesn't want a serf, they want a slave.
People instinctively are seeing this with the transgendered issue: the trannies are taking away the right of women to say no, to be themselves. They are losing their right to be a woman, in favor of someone who claims something completely against reality. That's an issue we can win on if we make it about the rights of the women forced to shower with the guy in a skirt. The left loses, big time.
Make everything a referendum on "aren't you enslaving people"?
The left offers nothing but coercion and loss of freedom of choice. You must buy this health care. You must bake that cake. You must not say anything we disapprove of. The right offers you the ability to say that Islam sucks. That no, you don't have to bake that cake, or even serve a Christian. Most importantly, the right asks that in exchange for your freedom, you use it to govern yourself. Who is the real man or woman: the self reliant, self mastered person or the slave to a government check?
This, I think, is the core choice we should offer: stand up against slavery. Ace was getting at it with the whole "serf" bit; but the left doesn't want a serf, they want a slave.
People instinctively are seeing this with the transgendered issue: the trannies are taking away the right of women to say no, to be themselves. They are losing their right to be a woman, in favor of someone who claims something completely against reality. That's an issue we can win on if we make it about the rights of the women forced to shower with the guy in a skirt. The left loses, big time.
Make everything a referendum on "aren't you enslaving people"?
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 07:44 PM (HcgJZ)
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>>>"This talk of civil war is frankly overwrought and silly even.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM"
No, frankly, it isn't. Go read contemporaneous accounts of the political and social climate in this country in 1857 - 1860 and you will be astounded and shocked at how similar the emotions and actions were to today.
...
not a civil war -- I don't want a war.
But I do want a divorce.
A divorce can be amicable. And when people hate each other, a divorce can at least make them civil to one another, as they're not in each other's shit every day any longer.
A country in which one group decides what political violence is acceptable, according to whether they're In the Group or the Out Group, is no longer a country.
The very nation of a country requires that people agree, nearly universally, that we are all citizens protected by the law.
When a very powerful group of people decides that some citizens aren't really citizens, the most basic element of "country" is now lacking. Now you have mutually hostile tribes which merely pay taxes to the same central authority.
A government does not make a people -- fellow-feeling makes a people.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:23 PM"
No, frankly, it isn't. Go read contemporaneous accounts of the political and social climate in this country in 1857 - 1860 and you will be astounded and shocked at how similar the emotions and actions were to today.
...
not a civil war -- I don't want a war.
But I do want a divorce.
A divorce can be amicable. And when people hate each other, a divorce can at least make them civil to one another, as they're not in each other's shit every day any longer.
A country in which one group decides what political violence is acceptable, according to whether they're In the Group or the Out Group, is no longer a country.
The very nation of a country requires that people agree, nearly universally, that we are all citizens protected by the law.
When a very powerful group of people decides that some citizens aren't really citizens, the most basic element of "country" is now lacking. Now you have mutually hostile tribes which merely pay taxes to the same central authority.
A government does not make a people -- fellow-feeling makes a people.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 07:44 PM (8rNrN)
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Whew...I read the whole post, thought it would never end.
If no one's said it...so, did Ace like the movie?
If no one's said it...so, did Ace like the movie?
Posted by: Farmer at May 31, 2017 07:44 PM (yJ1e6)
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WHO IS PHOTOGRAPHER
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 31, 2017 07:45 PM (U6f54)
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The long sobs of autumn's violins wound my heart with a monotonous covfefe.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 07:41 PM
NO! NO! WAIT 6 MORE DAYS!!!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 07:41 PM
NO! NO! WAIT 6 MORE DAYS!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2017 07:45 PM (V2Yro)
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I don't can't explain jokes.
Posted by: Toxic Masculinity Retired at May 31, 2017 07:39 PM (DxWUs)
FIFY.
Posted by: Toxic Masculinity Retired at May 31, 2017 07:39 PM (DxWUs)
FIFY.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2017 07:45 PM (Xr2/U)
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Make everything a referendum on "aren't you enslaving people"?
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 07:44 PM (HcgJZ)
In the Troy books, John Ringo made an interesting point: the difference between having Liberty and being libertine. I liked the distinction.
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 07:44 PM (HcgJZ)
In the Troy books, John Ringo made an interesting point: the difference between having Liberty and being libertine. I liked the distinction.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 07:45 PM (ZgkX8)
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388. And those doods are masters at the sort of tactics that drive the left up one wall and down the next before they collapse, sobbing, in a pool of their own piss, tears, and flop-sweat
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 31, 2017 07:46 PM (TwwWO)
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As rush says "The aggressor sets the rules in any conflict" or as Gregory Peck said in The Guns of Navarone " The only way to win a war is to be as ruthless as the enemy."
Or as we say in my family "Aut Vincere Aut Mori." {Conquer or die.}
Or as we say in my family "Aut Vincere Aut Mori." {Conquer or die.}
Posted by: Locke Common at May 31, 2017 07:46 PM (YqvaZ)
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9mm parabellum.
Yup, if it gets worserer then it will end up there. Push people into a corner and bad things happen.
Yup, if it gets worserer then it will end up there. Push people into a corner and bad things happen.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 31, 2017 07:46 PM (QMG4P)
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Or as we say in my family "Aut Vincere Aut Mori." {Conquer or die.}
Posted by: Locke Common at May 31, 2017 07:46 PM (YqvaZ)
Survival of the fittest
Posted by: Locke Common at May 31, 2017 07:46 PM (YqvaZ)
Survival of the fittest
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 07:47 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 31, 2017 07:47 PM (CcuKY)
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In fairness, growing up in the Clinton household, she isn't equipped to understand moral right or wrong.
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Stop.
Being
Fair.
Eff them.
Do liberals give conservatives breaks? No. NEVER. Hell, Republicans don't give conservatives breaks.
Screw Princess Chelsea.
Too bad that she doesn't understand right from wrong. Let's teach it to her now and shove our moral superiority down her throat like an engorged stallion d*ck.
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Stop.
Being
Fair.
Eff them.
Do liberals give conservatives breaks? No. NEVER. Hell, Republicans don't give conservatives breaks.
Screw Princess Chelsea.
Too bad that she doesn't understand right from wrong. Let's teach it to her now and shove our moral superiority down her throat like an engorged stallion d*ck.
Posted by: shibumi at May 31, 2017 07:47 PM (aT+Bx)
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I suggest first target GrubHub. It's CEO said Trump voters can't work there. A boycott is particularly effective because the customers are really restaurants, and restaurant owners would be sympathetic towards Trump. You target the Grubhub clients with boycotts, that they get back by switching to a local competitor.
Posted by: MikeN at May 31, 2017 07:47 PM (o/eHL)
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394. Tyler Shields.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 31, 2017 07:47 PM (TwwWO)
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"But I do want a divorce.
A divorce can be amicable. "
How exactly do we have a national divorce?
A divorce can be amicable. "
How exactly do we have a national divorce?
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:47 PM (+7/1f)
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MY HASH IS FUNNY BECAUSE ITS CANADIAN.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 31, 2017 07:48 PM (CcuKY)
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"Go read contemporaneous accounts of the political and social climate in this country in 1857 - 1860"
When we have a latter day John Brown and the equivalent of a Bleeding Kansas, you may be on to something.
Until then, I stand by overwrought and silly even.
When we have a latter day John Brown and the equivalent of a Bleeding Kansas, you may be on to something.
Until then, I stand by overwrought and silly even.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:49 PM (+7/1f)
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I think that the left could have taken a Hillary loss to another Republican, but not to Donald Trump.
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This isn't "how the left are taking it", this is who and what they are. They are not "taking" anything. Their actions and words are planned and meticulous. People have to understand what we are up against. They aren't weak. They are dishonest scumbags who live to hate you and the rest of humanity.
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This isn't "how the left are taking it", this is who and what they are. They are not "taking" anything. Their actions and words are planned and meticulous. People have to understand what we are up against. They aren't weak. They are dishonest scumbags who live to hate you and the rest of humanity.
Posted by: Mega at May 31, 2017 07:49 PM (rv0Fo)
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How exactly do we have a national divorce?
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:47 PM (+7/1f)
Constitutional Convention. Amend the Constitution to separate the country into two separate nations.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:47 PM (+7/1f)
Constitutional Convention. Amend the Constitution to separate the country into two separate nations.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 07:49 PM (fKWf6)
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'A government does not make a people -- fellow-feeling makes a people.'
Good point - and several groups of people who don't like each other very much, but who are held together by a powerful and oppressive central Government, makes an Empire, run by an institutional class which is far above and disdainful of all of the smaller polities which they rule.
Which is what we're well on our way to becoming.
Good point - and several groups of people who don't like each other very much, but who are held together by a powerful and oppressive central Government, makes an Empire, run by an institutional class which is far above and disdainful of all of the smaller polities which they rule.
Which is what we're well on our way to becoming.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2017 07:49 PM (V2Yro)
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ooohh I just fucking ranted on FB. Fuck this shit.. I am so sick of these ass clowns.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 31, 2017 07:49 PM (CNHr1)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:50 PM (rAqYf)
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I agree with earlier comments -- something of this nature wasn't even PERMITTED under the reign of Sir Barky the Lying Shill, so no way it's allowed now.
The Left had power, and not only abused it thoroughly, but terrorized and intimidated any opposition in a way that would make the old USSR proud.
The Left needs to bleed, profusely, until they either learn a new appreciation for civility, or until the odds are at least even, and both sides are down an eye, as it were.
The Left had power, and not only abused it thoroughly, but terrorized and intimidated any opposition in a way that would make the old USSR proud.
The Left needs to bleed, profusely, until they either learn a new appreciation for civility, or until the odds are at least even, and both sides are down an eye, as it were.
Posted by: acethepug at May 31, 2017 07:50 PM (539ql)
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My pitchfork is sharp and real stabby. I have the torches ready. Are we rising up now or waiting until first light?
I don't like drinking coffee this late but will put another pot on if there is an uprising scheduled this evening.
I don't like drinking coffee this late but will put another pot on if there is an uprising scheduled this evening.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 31, 2017 07:50 PM (ARzf8)
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Think the appeal of the nice guy act for alot of us was we don't want to get into shouting screaming matches with a bunch of hippies and trannies about Hayek or the perverse incentives of government interventionalism.
Short we hoped we could half ass the culture war. Our kindness or patience was viewed as submission. Then like gay marriage we hoped to compromise and coexist but then the cake bakers and photographers started being targeted.
Then when we objected they lied and slandered us. when we won election they delegitamized is and neutred our reps. In short like most problems we face everything ended up in its cynical logical conclusions and their greed left us no decent avenues for response.
Short we hoped we could half ass the culture war. Our kindness or patience was viewed as submission. Then like gay marriage we hoped to compromise and coexist but then the cake bakers and photographers started being targeted.
Then when we objected they lied and slandered us. when we won election they delegitamized is and neutred our reps. In short like most problems we face everything ended up in its cynical logical conclusions and their greed left us no decent avenues for response.
Posted by: Shiggz at May 31, 2017 07:50 PM (X8Fea)
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Written a few times that sooner or later these fascists will start bombing events or places.
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 07:51 PM (Ot7+c)
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not a civil war -- I don't want a war.
But I do want a divorce.
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A man and a woman get married.
He decides he wants out, but wants to be civil.
She goes insane and declares war on him.
He tries to be civil to calm her down.
She escalates to hurt him as much as she can.
He continues to take the high road.
She continues to escalate to the point of insanity.
In the end, he capitulates and is left with nothing- no house, no car, no life, just to appease the ex-wife.
And she is still angry and trying to destroy him, years after the divorce.
You might not want war, but that does not mean that war is not interested in you.
But I do want a divorce.
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A man and a woman get married.
He decides he wants out, but wants to be civil.
She goes insane and declares war on him.
He tries to be civil to calm her down.
She escalates to hurt him as much as she can.
He continues to take the high road.
She continues to escalate to the point of insanity.
In the end, he capitulates and is left with nothing- no house, no car, no life, just to appease the ex-wife.
And she is still angry and trying to destroy him, years after the divorce.
You might not want war, but that does not mean that war is not interested in you.
Posted by: shibumi at May 31, 2017 07:51 PM (aT+Bx)
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Interesting piece, Ace. I read the whole thing, but haven't looked at the comments yet.
Speaking for myself, I am blessed to live in a pleasant little town in Flyover Country. This coming weekend we will go to a Milk Festival, complete with parade. I pretty much speak my mind to everyone I know, and I think they feel free to do so with me. There is no unpleasantness.
Some of this is probably due to the fact that all my family are conservative devout Christians, my husband is a pastor of a conservative Christian church, and also I am cute.
The teenagers and college students that I know are friendly and nice. They run track and work at Farm and Fleet. The men in my Sunday School class like to talk about guns. They YMCA where I work out passes out Bible Verses on little paper curly strips, and has John 3:16 painted on the walls.
I turn off the TV so I don't hear the screechers. It helps.
There will never be Peace, until the Prince of Peace returns. I've always assumed that to be the case, and adjusted accordingly.
Speaking for myself, I am blessed to live in a pleasant little town in Flyover Country. This coming weekend we will go to a Milk Festival, complete with parade. I pretty much speak my mind to everyone I know, and I think they feel free to do so with me. There is no unpleasantness.
Some of this is probably due to the fact that all my family are conservative devout Christians, my husband is a pastor of a conservative Christian church, and also I am cute.
The teenagers and college students that I know are friendly and nice. They run track and work at Farm and Fleet. The men in my Sunday School class like to talk about guns. They YMCA where I work out passes out Bible Verses on little paper curly strips, and has John 3:16 painted on the walls.
I turn off the TV so I don't hear the screechers. It helps.
There will never be Peace, until the Prince of Peace returns. I've always assumed that to be the case, and adjusted accordingly.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 07:51 PM (lwiT4)
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They own the courts. They own the media. They own the universities. There is no aspect of public life that they do no have a controlling majority.
You play by their rules, they crucify you. Simple as that.
You play by their rules, they crucify you. Simple as that.
Posted by: spmat at May 31, 2017 07:52 PM (QuE2W)
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I don't like drinking coffee this late but will put another pot on if there is an uprising scheduled this evening.
Party at my house! Bring your own web gear and plate carriers.
Party at my house! Bring your own web gear and plate carriers.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 07:52 PM (CcuKY)
Posted by: DaveA at May 31, 2017 07:52 PM (FhXTo)
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I think part of the problem is not that Republicans don't have a response to the "We must love everyone or else" brigade; but that the average citizen doesn't give a *. That is on us as a culture. We have all done what Germans did in WWII. They aren't coming for me so I say nothing. Many simply want to live and be left alone. If Ace is correct then what that means is that we all need to leave our "safe spaces" and be willing, even within our own comfortable circles, to say NO. Easy to say on the Internet but totally different at work surrounded by lefties who can affect your employment situation.
Posted by: lightning at May 31, 2017 07:52 PM (oJSnD)
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Also one of them says "we had civilization before you ever did -we built these cities when you were coming out of caves."
These students don't even know what being civil means!
Posted by: Glenn John at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (LilNs)
How did they get so stupid in the last ten thousand years?
These students don't even know what being civil means!
Posted by: Glenn John at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (LilNs)
How did they get so stupid in the last ten thousand years?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2017 07:52 PM (7MWCL)
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This is what the alt right has been advocating for half a decade. This is a winning strategy.
Posted by: Cecil at May 31, 2017 07:52 PM (jJ6o/)
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Remember after the election the Narrative was how "frightened" the Left was, especially for their daughters who were crying in their cereal bowls because Trump won, and how they all seemed to know a muslim and were frightened for their muslim friend?
All that was Bullshit.
Remember after the election the Narrative was how "frightened" the Left was, especially for their daughters who were crying in their cereal bowls because Trump won, and how they all seemed to know a muslim and were frightened for their muslim friend?
All that was Bullshit.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:52 PM (rAqYf)
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>>>How exactly do we have a national divorce?
The left is leading the way. California is basically now South Carolina, invalidating federal law. Will not be long before red states realize they, too, can ignore federal laws they do not like.
The left is leading the way. California is basically now South Carolina, invalidating federal law. Will not be long before red states realize they, too, can ignore federal laws they do not like.
Posted by: ace at May 31, 2017 07:53 PM (8rNrN)
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Yes, the media is the key, nuke them and the whole Progressive edifice is vulnerable.
Consider the whole of modern journalism entirely depends on the reputation of a couple of people and institutions. Look at the news and what do you see? Unsourced leaks, deep 'background' reports from unnamed 'insiders' and unsubstantiated rumor passed off as news. This is only possible because a critical mass of readers / viewers accept the premise that we can trust there actually IS a leaker because of the faith in the NYT, WaPo, CNN, etc. talking head or byline. End that and make the default assumption (which is true) that an unnamed source quoted on CNN should get about the same credibility as "anonymous 'FBI' insider on reddit" and we are in an entirely different world.
Kick it up one more notch to assume any story promoted by the usual suspects is false until proven otherwise and we have probably won the #WAR. That should be the goal, the end game kept firmly in mind when considering strategy and tactics, if it advances that end goal it is good.
Digging up dirt on key journalists and ruining a few lives would be an excellent tactic for instance. Planting #FakeNews that is capnip for the Prog media and then burning them would be both hilarious and productive. And wasn't it Alinsky who recommends tactics which are fun for your troops?
Consider the whole of modern journalism entirely depends on the reputation of a couple of people and institutions. Look at the news and what do you see? Unsourced leaks, deep 'background' reports from unnamed 'insiders' and unsubstantiated rumor passed off as news. This is only possible because a critical mass of readers / viewers accept the premise that we can trust there actually IS a leaker because of the faith in the NYT, WaPo, CNN, etc. talking head or byline. End that and make the default assumption (which is true) that an unnamed source quoted on CNN should get about the same credibility as "anonymous 'FBI' insider on reddit" and we are in an entirely different world.
Kick it up one more notch to assume any story promoted by the usual suspects is false until proven otherwise and we have probably won the #WAR. That should be the goal, the end game kept firmly in mind when considering strategy and tactics, if it advances that end goal it is good.
Digging up dirt on key journalists and ruining a few lives would be an excellent tactic for instance. Planting #FakeNews that is capnip for the Prog media and then burning them would be both hilarious and productive. And wasn't it Alinsky who recommends tactics which are fun for your troops?
Posted by: John Morris at May 31, 2017 07:53 PM (sCRhB)
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Evergreen college has always been strange. I'll copy a comment here that I originally posted at Reddit Europe forum.
This has always been a nuthouse college. I'm a logger in Washington
state, cut trees down. Anyway 20 years ago or so I had a job near the
campus, cutting a stand of second growth Douglas Fir. All kinds of
boo-hoo and whining from students, hey I'm just a working stiff, I don't
get to tell the land owner he can't cut his own trees. I got tired of
all the whining so I made a point of getting on the job long before the
crack of dawn and dragging a culvert with my crew cab up and down the
gravel road for hours until daylight. Kept those cry babies awake and
sleepless till we finished the job, a couple weeks or so. They couldn't
win that battle.
This has always been a nuthouse college. I'm a logger in Washington
state, cut trees down. Anyway 20 years ago or so I had a job near the
campus, cutting a stand of second growth Douglas Fir. All kinds of
boo-hoo and whining from students, hey I'm just a working stiff, I don't
get to tell the land owner he can't cut his own trees. I got tired of
all the whining so I made a point of getting on the job long before the
crack of dawn and dragging a culvert with my crew cab up and down the
gravel road for hours until daylight. Kept those cry babies awake and
sleepless till we finished the job, a couple weeks or so. They couldn't
win that battle.
Posted by: JHW at May 31, 2017 07:54 PM (kn0BL)
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Few people know, since it hasn't been taught, that in the summer of 1861 there was a conference convened in Washington, with the goal of averting a military conflict. They came up with a plan that looked good on paper, to split the country into 4 separate regions with 4 separate capitols, which would control the laws inside their own spheres but still cooperate to an extent.
But unfortunately, as always with such plans, no one could com to an actual agreement as to who would exactly control what, and everyone involved wanted more than they were getting, and others said it was a stupid idea to begin with, and no one really powerful ever bought into it.
And then South Carolina got sick of waiting for something to happen and opened fire on Ft. Sumter, and we were off to the races. After months of dithering and doing nothing, they were positive that Lincoln was weak and would fold his hand and just let them go.
But unfortunately, as always with such plans, no one could com to an actual agreement as to who would exactly control what, and everyone involved wanted more than they were getting, and others said it was a stupid idea to begin with, and no one really powerful ever bought into it.
And then South Carolina got sick of waiting for something to happen and opened fire on Ft. Sumter, and we were off to the races. After months of dithering and doing nothing, they were positive that Lincoln was weak and would fold his hand and just let them go.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2017 07:54 PM (V2Yro)
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In completely unrelated news: (AP) Kellogg Co. is shuttering distribution centers around the nation and cutting more than 1,000 workers, as it follows through with a cost-cutting plan amid falling sales.
GrrrReat!
GrrrReat!
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 31, 2017 07:54 PM (Ndje9)
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What ever happened to those timid frightened leftists after the election, anyway? Where'd they go?
Well, on inauguration day they were on the streets with their faces covered as they threw rocks and bottles.
What ever happened to those timid frightened leftists after the election, anyway? Where'd they go?
Well, on inauguration day they were on the streets with their faces covered as they threw rocks and bottles.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:55 PM (rAqYf)
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Will not be long before red states realize they, too, can ignore federal laws they do not like.
The first step to Seceding in Place is to quite taking Washington's money.
The first step to Seceding in Place is to quite taking Washington's money.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 07:55 PM (CcuKY)
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I am not sure how one could intimate that we are overwrought.
we have watched them Chasing Trump supporters and beating on them.
we have watched them bite the finger off a dissenter
we have watched them actually write in words on sites such as BI that dissenters of Gl9bal warming should be jailed.
We have watched plenty to see where they are at on their desires list.
we have seen them turn on their own just as swiftly for Any disagreement.
I do not want to be ruin down by them, I want my children to feel some semblance of freedom I once gelt I had
we have watched them Chasing Trump supporters and beating on them.
we have watched them bite the finger off a dissenter
we have watched them actually write in words on sites such as BI that dissenters of Gl9bal warming should be jailed.
We have watched plenty to see where they are at on their desires list.
we have seen them turn on their own just as swiftly for Any disagreement.
I do not want to be ruin down by them, I want my children to feel some semblance of freedom I once gelt I had
Posted by: willow at May 31, 2017 07:55 PM (iS1Cb)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 07:55 PM (CcuKY)
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How exactly do we have a national divorce?
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:47 PM (+7/1f)
What? You don't knows any good Jew Lawyers?
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:47 PM (+7/1f)
What? You don't knows any good Jew Lawyers?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 07:55 PM (SjImc)
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So ... anybody banned yet from this thread ?
Country Boy understood this missive from Ace. He got banned yesterday.
I understood this missive from Ace before Ace understood it himself. I've been banned more than once.
Yet ... stopping people from saying things I consider obvious ain't stopped us from getting to this point.
Country Boy understood this missive from Ace. He got banned yesterday.
I understood this missive from Ace before Ace understood it himself. I've been banned more than once.
Yet ... stopping people from saying things I consider obvious ain't stopped us from getting to this point.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 31, 2017 07:55 PM (fiGNd)
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It is imperative we begin emulating the left in its tactics.
Respectfully: nah. I need to emulate how The Donald does it. He employs delicious ridicule, does not for a second feel inferior or guilty, and uses the rules fairly. He is an old-school parent. He's not trying to be their buddy or playmate.
Respectfully: nah. I need to emulate how The Donald does it. He employs delicious ridicule, does not for a second feel inferior or guilty, and uses the rules fairly. He is an old-school parent. He's not trying to be their buddy or playmate.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2017 07:56 PM (8zL5i)
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The ONLY... and I mean only nice thing about the Left's plan to murder us... is that they will also take out 75% of their own for not being lefty enough.
Posted by: Mega
They are sociopaths. That's why they devour their own when there are no conservatives available.
Posted by: Mega
They are sociopaths. That's why they devour their own when there are no conservatives available.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 31, 2017 07:56 PM (vRcUp)
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Tucker and his team have been reading my comments --Mark Steyn is on again tonight! 
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2017 07:56 PM (GsAUU)
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Has anyone done a photoshop of Trump's typo Tweet and then a picture of Cthlulhu yet?
And if not, why the hell not? And someone please get on that.
And if not, why the hell not? And someone please get on that.
Posted by: buzzion at May 31, 2017 07:56 PM (z/Ubi)
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CB got banned?
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 07:56 PM (Sfs6o)
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"California is basically now South Carolina, invalidating federal law. Will not be long before red states realize they, too, can ignore federal laws they do not like."
That's not a divorce.
And California and Illinois will go broke before they split off on their own accord.
That's not a divorce.
And California and Illinois will go broke before they split off on their own accord.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 07:56 PM (+7/1f)
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I mostly know and relate to conservatives but I also know liberals and leftists.
I know Christians, atheists, hindus and muslims and the odd Sikh.
I know well-read, intelligent people and I know a lot of dumb asses.
But I don't know a single shrieking scumbag that seem to rule the news.
Pretty much all the people I know simply want to make a living and take care of their families.
Where do these cockroaches hide out?
I know Christians, atheists, hindus and muslims and the odd Sikh.
I know well-read, intelligent people and I know a lot of dumb asses.
But I don't know a single shrieking scumbag that seem to rule the news.
Pretty much all the people I know simply want to make a living and take care of their families.
Where do these cockroaches hide out?
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM (hJrjt)
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I would think we'd have to start bocoting or or something the medias benifactors. the corps that sellthem the lines to read for their own gain
those guys. we need to find a way to destabilize their propaganda and hopefully wreck the funding
those guys. we need to find a way to destabilize their propaganda and hopefully wreck the funding
Posted by: willow at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM (iS1Cb)
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we built these cities when you were coming out of caves
Funny they say that, when it's now been proven that the ancient Egyptians are genetically the cousins of the ancient Canaanites. Whatever African was in them (there was some but not much) was Nubian. As in, Sudanese Darfuris, not Al Sharpton.
Funny they say that, when it's now been proven that the ancient Egyptians are genetically the cousins of the ancient Canaanites. Whatever African was in them (there was some but not much) was Nubian. As in, Sudanese Darfuris, not Al Sharpton.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM (6FqZa)
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Some of this is probably due to the fact that all my family are conservative devout Christians, my husband is a pastor of a conservative Christian church, and also I am cute.
What did I tell you about posting drunk?
#glugglugglugglug
Some of this is probably due to the fact that all my family are conservative devout Christians, my husband is a pastor of a conservative Christian church, and also I am cute.
What did I tell you about posting drunk?
#glugglugglugglug
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM (rAqYf)
448
Constitutional Convention. Amend the Constitution to separate the country into two separate nations.
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A separate nation next door that lets illegal marauders invade it and take over? Not really a great idea.
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A separate nation next door that lets illegal marauders invade it and take over? Not really a great idea.
Posted by: Mega at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM (rv0Fo)
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Country Boy understood this missive from Ace. He got banned yesterday.
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He did? Oh no!
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He did? Oh no!
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM (lwiT4)
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367 "It is imperative we begin emulating the left in its tactics."
Emulating isn't enough. Outstripping them is what is needed.
Posted by: FaCubeItches
Precisely.
Here is a great example of what conservatives SHOULD be doing if they want to destroy the left at their own game:
Read this very carefully -- be prepared, because it is shocking:
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Assemble a group of at least 50 (or more) dedicated conservative activists.
Make a bunch of signs ahead of time with the following slogans:
"No more black babies -- defend Planned Parenthood."
"Legal Abortion Is Necessary to Eliminate Minorities."
"Margaret Sanger -- Aryan Hero."
"Eugenics Now, Eugenics Forever: Keep Abortion Legal."
" 'We Must Exterminate Human Waste to Preserve the White Race.' -- Margaret Sanger"
etc. etc. etc.
The point behind the signs is to foreground the true eugenicist/eliminationist goal behind the origins of Planned Parenthood.
Then, 30 of your activists go to the busiest Planned Parenthood center in your state, and set up camp right around the entrance. Make it clear that they are there to DEFEND Planned Parenthood and to SUPPORT abortion rights.
Then, the remaining 20 activists, dressed differently if possible, arrive half an hour later from a different direction. Put all your conservative minorities in this group. Have them be very overtly Catholic, and have half their signs in Spanish. Their signs are anti-abortion, standard fare. They show up to pray away the sin, and to oppose Planned Parenthood and everything it stands for.
Meanwhile, your Media Team (you do have a media team, right?) has contacted all the local, regional and national news stations and outlets. As soon as the first camera shows up, have the two sides start getting into ever-escalating nearly violent conflicts. Screaming, fists flying, veins and tendons bulging. But make sure the pro-choice crowd is scarier and more violent.
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Video of this confrontation is sure to make the evening news, and sure to go viral. But the good-guy/bad-guy sides have been reversed from the Leftist narrative.
The problem with this scenario, which is guaranteed to "worK" i.e. change people's minds, is that the activists have to be truly truly "dedicated" in the way that leftists are dedicated: You have to be prepared to be arrested, to have your real name slandered in public, to be endangered.
And the problem is that most conservatives are "normal people" with families, jobs and responsibilities, and are not willing to lay their names and livelihood and safety on the line to make a point.
That's why the Right has so few "professional activists," and therefore why the right often loses the "street theater" battles for political optics.
Emulating isn't enough. Outstripping them is what is needed.
Posted by: FaCubeItches
Precisely.
Here is a great example of what conservatives SHOULD be doing if they want to destroy the left at their own game:
Read this very carefully -- be prepared, because it is shocking:
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Assemble a group of at least 50 (or more) dedicated conservative activists.
Make a bunch of signs ahead of time with the following slogans:
"No more black babies -- defend Planned Parenthood."
"Legal Abortion Is Necessary to Eliminate Minorities."
"Margaret Sanger -- Aryan Hero."
"Eugenics Now, Eugenics Forever: Keep Abortion Legal."
" 'We Must Exterminate Human Waste to Preserve the White Race.' -- Margaret Sanger"
etc. etc. etc.
The point behind the signs is to foreground the true eugenicist/eliminationist goal behind the origins of Planned Parenthood.
Then, 30 of your activists go to the busiest Planned Parenthood center in your state, and set up camp right around the entrance. Make it clear that they are there to DEFEND Planned Parenthood and to SUPPORT abortion rights.
Then, the remaining 20 activists, dressed differently if possible, arrive half an hour later from a different direction. Put all your conservative minorities in this group. Have them be very overtly Catholic, and have half their signs in Spanish. Their signs are anti-abortion, standard fare. They show up to pray away the sin, and to oppose Planned Parenthood and everything it stands for.
Meanwhile, your Media Team (you do have a media team, right?) has contacted all the local, regional and national news stations and outlets. As soon as the first camera shows up, have the two sides start getting into ever-escalating nearly violent conflicts. Screaming, fists flying, veins and tendons bulging. But make sure the pro-choice crowd is scarier and more violent.
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Video of this confrontation is sure to make the evening news, and sure to go viral. But the good-guy/bad-guy sides have been reversed from the Leftist narrative.
The problem with this scenario, which is guaranteed to "worK" i.e. change people's minds, is that the activists have to be truly truly "dedicated" in the way that leftists are dedicated: You have to be prepared to be arrested, to have your real name slandered in public, to be endangered.
And the problem is that most conservatives are "normal people" with families, jobs and responsibilities, and are not willing to lay their names and livelihood and safety on the line to make a point.
That's why the Right has so few "professional activists," and therefore why the right often loses the "street theater" battles for political optics.
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: votermom pimping great books at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM (hMwEB)
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290 At the video around 3:50, one of the "students" reads a few words. She stumbles over the text like a child reading Green Eggs and Ham for the first time. She. Can't. Even. Read...
Posted by: Victoria at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (IokTD)
holy crap. I just watched it for the first time just to see that.
Watch it if you haven't. It really is sad to be shown that kids aren't expected to rise to the strenuous academic levels of college now that colleges will lower their standards so long as those student loan checks keep coming.
Posted by: Victoria at May 31, 2017 07:17 PM (IokTD)
holy crap. I just watched it for the first time just to see that.
Watch it if you haven't. It really is sad to be shown that kids aren't expected to rise to the strenuous academic levels of college now that colleges will lower their standards so long as those student loan checks keep coming.
Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 07:58 PM (fD1ST)
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What did I tell you about posting drunk?
#glugglugglugglug
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM (rAqYf)
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In Swedish, it's glogg. With the funny umlaut thing.
#glugglugglugglug
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM (rAqYf)
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In Swedish, it's glogg. With the funny umlaut thing.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 07:58 PM (lwiT4)
454
442 CB got banned?
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 07:56 PM (Sfs6o)
Yeah ... he said something and Tim from Illinois got concerned.
Tim gets concerned quite a bit.
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 07:56 PM (Sfs6o)
Yeah ... he said something and Tim from Illinois got concerned.
Tim gets concerned quite a bit.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 31, 2017 07:58 PM (fiGNd)
455
Posted by: Shiggz at May 31, 2017 07:50 PM (X8Fea)
This times 1000
My husband still thinks leftists can be persuaded by rational debate. He's busy working, he really has no idea how truly evil these people are.
This times 1000
My husband still thinks leftists can be persuaded by rational debate. He's busy working, he really has no idea how truly evil these people are.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 07:58 PM (Ri/rl)
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388
Also, for those who are adventurous, go to 4chan politically incorrect. There are a lot of young people out there who are fed up and are looking to bust heads. Be forewarned-- there is lots of racisim and prejudice there
Posted by: shibumi at May 31, 2017 07:43 PM (aT+Bx)
And that doesn't bother me a bit. At some point, white people need to decide to stop being punching bags. The only racism that is acceptable today is racism against whites, and the cultural Marxists even teach that racism against whites is not racism at all.
Obama only won because of White Guilt. It didn't matter how many black or brown people voted for him, he never could have won without the votes of millions of groveling whites.
To bring it back to Ace's post, white people who suffer from White Guilt are basically saying that they deserve to be subjugated. They are like serfs who bow to their lords.
Also, for those who are adventurous, go to 4chan politically incorrect. There are a lot of young people out there who are fed up and are looking to bust heads. Be forewarned-- there is lots of racisim and prejudice there
Posted by: shibumi at May 31, 2017 07:43 PM (aT+Bx)
And that doesn't bother me a bit. At some point, white people need to decide to stop being punching bags. The only racism that is acceptable today is racism against whites, and the cultural Marxists even teach that racism against whites is not racism at all.
Obama only won because of White Guilt. It didn't matter how many black or brown people voted for him, he never could have won without the votes of millions of groveling whites.
To bring it back to Ace's post, white people who suffer from White Guilt are basically saying that they deserve to be subjugated. They are like serfs who bow to their lords.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 07:59 PM (sdi6R)
457
I still remember when ace would give us a time-out for using the words "Worf", Wookie", "Klingon", etc., to refer to Moochelle. Good times. Good times.
Wait - I think I see the ban-hammer headed my wa...
Wait - I think I see the ban-hammer headed my wa...
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 31, 2017 07:59 PM (lIZQs)
458
Ace has been here before if I recall it correctly, during the Bush years the left was close to being unhinged as it is today, that's why Britebart made so much sense to so many. The colleges teach the insanity, instigate the insanity and then pretend to surrender to the righteous mob in order to advance on to the next level of culture destruction. The EPA has done the same exact crap for at least a decade, fund the environmental nuts, get the nuts to sue the gov so the gov can surrender and then start the process anew.
There has never been a path to reasonable accommodation, they only want us around to pay for their path to victory over us. I personally adopted the strike first strategy back in '03 or so and have had a far simpler and enjoyable life as a result.
There has never been a path to reasonable accommodation, they only want us around to pay for their path to victory over us. I personally adopted the strike first strategy back in '03 or so and have had a far simpler and enjoyable life as a result.
Posted by: Anthony Weiners Ghostly Schlong at May 31, 2017 07:59 PM (UaguQ)
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Regarding Evergreen - some folks have remarked re the "professors professing" and/or "students studying", etc.
Not that kinda place - its a self actualizing / self evaluating kinda place. No serious academics goin' on. A sorta kindergarden for the post high school -pre-barrista set in the Pacific NW.
After a few years & maybe 100k down the tubes you get a participation diploma.
If you've ever tried to have a logical conversation with an Evergreener - you'll remember it for its entertainment value.
Not that kinda place - its a self actualizing / self evaluating kinda place. No serious academics goin' on. A sorta kindergarden for the post high school -pre-barrista set in the Pacific NW.
After a few years & maybe 100k down the tubes you get a participation diploma.
If you've ever tried to have a logical conversation with an Evergreener - you'll remember it for its entertainment value.
Posted by: bcaphaedrus@gmail.com at May 31, 2017 07:59 PM (4IjM5)
460
C[ountry]B[oy] got banned?
Yeah, last night. Some violent commentary I think. The post was buhleeted, and the other morons' quotes from it ****'ed out the bad part.
Yeah, last night. Some violent commentary I think. The post was buhleeted, and the other morons' quotes from it ****'ed out the bad part.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 07:59 PM (6FqZa)
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this position returns fire when fired upon
Posted by: Amalgamated Association of Morons Local 6 7/8 at May 31, 2017 08:00 PM (49u8l)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 08:00 PM (rAqYf)
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Posted by: acethepug at May 31, 2017 07:50 PM (539ql)
The Left was granted power because somehow the power of being a victim was used to make it so Men would not use their own strength, to do what was right.
The strong were socially coerced into being weak...
I had this brought home to me a few years back. My Girlfriend at the time had a Sister who was a bitch... everyone knew it...
One day, she was in my face about a subject she knew nothing about, and started to make jokes about my Manhood... to the point of invading my personal space and sticking her finger in my face saying ' ew... I'm making you mad aren't I'...
Well... I was training for a historic fencing tourney at the time... parry reflex kicked in and I grabbed her hand, and held it... saying ' if a Man did that, I'd kick his ass... ' and then forcibly removed her hand from my face...
Her boyfriend then got involved and told me to apologize.... I said no... and if you want to be as rude as her, you can take the ass whuppin she deserves.... he backed down...
I lost a girlfriend over it... because her very weakness was supposed to protect her from the rudeness of her own actions...
I won't play that game any longer... I will not be weak, because they want to use their victimhood or weakness against me....
The Left was granted power because somehow the power of being a victim was used to make it so Men would not use their own strength, to do what was right.
The strong were socially coerced into being weak...
I had this brought home to me a few years back. My Girlfriend at the time had a Sister who was a bitch... everyone knew it...
One day, she was in my face about a subject she knew nothing about, and started to make jokes about my Manhood... to the point of invading my personal space and sticking her finger in my face saying ' ew... I'm making you mad aren't I'...
Well... I was training for a historic fencing tourney at the time... parry reflex kicked in and I grabbed her hand, and held it... saying ' if a Man did that, I'd kick his ass... ' and then forcibly removed her hand from my face...
Her boyfriend then got involved and told me to apologize.... I said no... and if you want to be as rude as her, you can take the ass whuppin she deserves.... he backed down...
I lost a girlfriend over it... because her very weakness was supposed to protect her from the rudeness of her own actions...
I won't play that game any longer... I will not be weak, because they want to use their victimhood or weakness against me....
Posted by: Don Q. at May 31, 2017 08:00 PM (NgKpN)
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454 442 CB got banned?
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 07:56 PM (Sfs6o)
Yeah ... he said something and Tim from Illinois got concerned.
Tim gets concerned quite a bit.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 31, 2017 07:58 PM (fiGNd)
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Dang.
How've you been Amigo?
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 07:56 PM (Sfs6o)
Yeah ... he said something and Tim from Illinois got concerned.
Tim gets concerned quite a bit.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 31, 2017 07:58 PM (fiGNd)
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Dang.
How've you been Amigo?
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:00 PM (Sfs6o)
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I like Country Boy. Isn't he the DJ, or am I thinking of someone else?
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:00 PM (lwiT4)
466
CB got banned?
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 07:56 PM (Sfs6o)
Yeah ... he said something and Tim from Illinois got concerned.
Tim gets concerned quite a bit.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 31, 2017 07:58 PM (fiGNd)
I was on but not following that closely at the time. But from what I remember I thought it was far from the worst thing I heard on here. Hell someone on this thread wants to shoot people in the face with hollow points and did not get banned.
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 07:56 PM (Sfs6o)
Yeah ... he said something and Tim from Illinois got concerned.
Tim gets concerned quite a bit.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 31, 2017 07:58 PM (fiGNd)
I was on but not following that closely at the time. But from what I remember I thought it was far from the worst thing I heard on here. Hell someone on this thread wants to shoot people in the face with hollow points and did not get banned.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 08:01 PM (SjImc)
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Yeah ... he said something and Tim from Illinois got concerned.
That guy just came out of nowhere.
That guy just came out of nowhere.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:01 PM (CcuKY)
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Tim from IL drove off Chi, yes?
Tim from IL drove off Chi, yes?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 08:01 PM (rAqYf)
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A separate nation next door that lets illegal marauders invade it and take over? Not really a great idea.
Posted by: Mega at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM (rv0Fo)
Better than the alternatives. Unless you're willing to round up progressives and their families and march them in front of firing squads, they are going to need a place to go, and the Euros won't take them.
Posted by: Mega at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM (rv0Fo)
Better than the alternatives. Unless you're willing to round up progressives and their families and march them in front of firing squads, they are going to need a place to go, and the Euros won't take them.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 08:01 PM (fKWf6)
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437 So ... anybody banned yet from this thread ?
Country Boy understood this missive from Ace. He got banned yesterday.
I understood this missive from Ace before Ace understood it himself. I've been banned more than once.
Yet ... stopping people from saying things I consider obvious ain't stopped us from getting to this point."
What you should and shouldn't say is actually pretty easy, since they are the same rules I follow in my day to day life, and those that I advise everyone I know to follow.
Never say anything that you would worry about saying to a police officer on the side of the road at night, or in front of a judge in open court.
Anything that passes those guidelines, fire away.
Country Boy understood this missive from Ace. He got banned yesterday.
I understood this missive from Ace before Ace understood it himself. I've been banned more than once.
Yet ... stopping people from saying things I consider obvious ain't stopped us from getting to this point."
What you should and shouldn't say is actually pretty easy, since they are the same rules I follow in my day to day life, and those that I advise everyone I know to follow.
Never say anything that you would worry about saying to a police officer on the side of the road at night, or in front of a judge in open court.
Anything that passes those guidelines, fire away.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2017 08:02 PM (V2Yro)
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And again, it's probably the European in me (I can be racist toward my own blood yes?), but I freely cop to being a serf. I'm no alpha; don't particularly want to be an alpha. I just want a lord who mostly leaves me alone and won't buttf@ck my sheep.
I haven't got that assurance from the SJWs. Much less from the Muslims.
I haven't got that assurance from the SJWs. Much less from the Muslims.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 08:02 PM (6FqZa)
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457 I still remember when ace would give us a time-out for using the words "Worf", Wookie", "Klingon", etc., to refer to Moochelle. Good times. Good times.
Wait - I think I see the ban-hammer headed my wa...
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 31, 2017 07:59 PM (lIZQs)
Yeah.... some things were not to be mentioned....
Wait - I think I see the ban-hammer headed my wa...
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 31, 2017 07:59 PM (lIZQs)
Yeah.... some things were not to be mentioned....
Posted by: The Thirsty thirsty Tree of Liberty at May 31, 2017 08:02 PM (NgKpN)
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I relize why people get banned but hate when it does
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 08:02 PM (Ot7+c)
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That guy just came out of nowhere.
Yeah, he did. Just like CAC did. Not much of a paper trail.
I had never crossed paths with the guy before.
That guy just came out of nowhere.
Yeah, he did. Just like CAC did. Not much of a paper trail.
I had never crossed paths with the guy before.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 31, 2017 08:02 PM (rAqYf)
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313 Goldman bought the bonds in the secondary market, meaning that the government had already received the money from someone else and Goldman is simply taking a risk on the obligation for repayment.
No new money went to Venezuela.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (gIRsn)
Unless they paid a penny on the dollar, what a stupid investment risk. Venezuela ain't likely ever paying on those bonds.
No new money went to Venezuela.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2017 07:16 PM (gIRsn)
Unless they paid a penny on the dollar, what a stupid investment risk. Venezuela ain't likely ever paying on those bonds.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 08:02 PM (IDPbH)
476
When mockery fails, I find that a right cross is a good back up.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2017 08:02 PM (F0ZHr)
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Then like gay marriage we hoped to compromise and coexist but then the cake bakers and photographers started being targeted.
Posted by: Shiggz at May 31, 2017 07:50 PM (X8Fea)
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I was here and on HotAir trying to warn everybody about the bullshit sucker bet appeasement SSM was--and a conversation that made everybody dumber.
Posted by: Shiggz at May 31, 2017 07:50 PM (X8Fea)
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I was here and on HotAir trying to warn everybody about the bullshit sucker bet appeasement SSM was--and a conversation that made everybody dumber.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 08:03 PM (2mC6G)
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So the latest advance in the gay rights agenda: The city of Lansing, Michigan just banned a farmer from the farmers market because said farmer didn't hold a lesbian wedding on his farm.
This is quite the step beyond forcing someone to bake the cake--there, you could at least serve other customers. Now, the LGBT crowd is stating flat out that if you don't cater to them, you don't get to do business with anyone.
This is quite the step beyond forcing someone to bake the cake--there, you could at least serve other customers. Now, the LGBT crowd is stating flat out that if you don't cater to them, you don't get to do business with anyone.
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 08:03 PM (HcgJZ)
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Ace:
Great, and I mean GREAT post. A case in point is the so-called "N word." The fact that I cannot write it here in full is a defeat for free speech. It's not that I condone its usage; far from it. But to not be able to write the clinical sentence "N---er is a horrible racist insult" means that not only have I censored myself, but that people who do use the word have a de facto power over me because they can say it with impunity and I cannot (not that I want to), no matter what ridiculous pseudo-cultural-sociloligcal excuse is given for its use by them.
It is a symbol of domination over me, regardless of whether I recognize it as such. They do.
QED.
Ace:
Great, and I mean GREAT post. A case in point is the so-called "N word." The fact that I cannot write it here in full is a defeat for free speech. It's not that I condone its usage; far from it. But to not be able to write the clinical sentence "N---er is a horrible racist insult" means that not only have I censored myself, but that people who do use the word have a de facto power over me because they can say it with impunity and I cannot (not that I want to), no matter what ridiculous pseudo-cultural-sociloligcal excuse is given for its use by them.
It is a symbol of domination over me, regardless of whether I recognize it as such. They do.
QED.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:03 PM (mbhDw)
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I agree, we need to actively fight back. Is there a conservative version of the SJW mobs, like ACCORN or Southern Poverty Law Center?
I'm certainly willing and able to join up, but with whom?
I'm certainly willing and able to join up, but with whom?
Posted by: BuckIV at May 31, 2017 08:03 PM (CLfqv)
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Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 07:51 PM (lwiT4)
We seem to live parallel lives except I live in deep blue California.
We are going to opening day of the rodeo tomorrow night. Everyone loves Trump there.
We seem to live parallel lives except I live in deep blue California.
We are going to opening day of the rodeo tomorrow night. Everyone loves Trump there.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:03 PM (nQ+bw)
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Unless they paid a penny on the dollar, what a stupid investment risk. Venezuela ain't likely ever paying on those bonds.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 08:02 PM (IDPbH)
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A revolutionary leader said if they win, they are going to purposely default on that loan. LOL!!
Why aren't libs going off on GS?!
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 08:02 PM (IDPbH)
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A revolutionary leader said if they win, they are going to purposely default on that loan. LOL!!
Why aren't libs going off on GS?!
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 08:04 PM (2mC6G)
483
Once again we see how like to Islam the Left is. Strong horse - weak horse, same reaction to each.
Posted by: geoffb5 at May 31, 2017 08:05 PM (d3wbb)
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So the latest advance in the gay rights agenda: The city of Lansing, Michigan just banned a farmer from the farmers market because said farmer didn't hold a lesbian wedding on his farm.
I assume this was done publicly, by a city council vote or something, yes? So the miscreants have names and addresses.
I assume this was done publicly, by a city council vote or something, yes? So the miscreants have names and addresses.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:05 PM (CcuKY)
485
478 Thats Leftism in a nutshell, play by their rules and like it or pay the price.
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 08:05 PM (Ot7+c)
486
We need to befriend journalists and get them to (unintentionally) print obvioualy false stories where they will discredit themselves bigly in front of the world. Like the piss hooker story.
Trump really needs to recruit some "leakers". This is the time and they way to take the media out.
Trump really needs to recruit some "leakers". This is the time and they way to take the media out.
Posted by: Mega at May 31, 2017 08:06 PM (rv0Fo)
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Dang. How've you been Amigo?
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:00 PM (Sfs6o)
Something's going on ... shoot me an email.
Long story short - I got back into the weights for a couple months. And I ain't no underwear model ... but I ain't no slouch either.
For whatever reason - just under 45 seems to be my sweet spot. Things are going well.
Nobody is more surprised than me.
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:00 PM (Sfs6o)
Something's going on ... shoot me an email.
Long story short - I got back into the weights for a couple months. And I ain't no underwear model ... but I ain't no slouch either.
For whatever reason - just under 45 seems to be my sweet spot. Things are going well.
Nobody is more surprised than me.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 31, 2017 08:06 PM (fiGNd)
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I love when Ace writes one of these thought pieces that get links from all over the right side of the internet... and I get a top 10 comment in about "butt stuff". Keeping the place classy.
Posted by: wooga at May 31, 2017 08:06 PM (mqHvU)
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478 So the latest advance in the gay rights agenda: The city of Lansing, Michigan just banned a farmer from the farmers market because said farmer didn't hold a lesbian wedding on his farm.
This is quite the step beyond forcing someone to bake the cake--there, you could at least serve other customers. Now, the LGBT crowd is stating flat out that if you don't cater to them, you don't get to do business with anyone.
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 08:03 PM (HcgJZ)
That is some bullshit right there. Really?
This is quite the step beyond forcing someone to bake the cake--there, you could at least serve other customers. Now, the LGBT crowd is stating flat out that if you don't cater to them, you don't get to do business with anyone.
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 08:03 PM (HcgJZ)
That is some bullshit right there. Really?
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:06 PM (nQ+bw)
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Is there a conservative version of the SJW mobs, like ACCORN or Southern Poverty Law Center?
Turning Point USA and College Fix would qualify. Down to the public shaming of pretty much anybody whom they don't like, unfortunately.
I would consider getting involved in them much like I'd consider signing a pact with Tiamat to fight off an invasion from Orcus.
Turning Point USA and College Fix would qualify. Down to the public shaming of pretty much anybody whom they don't like, unfortunately.
I would consider getting involved in them much like I'd consider signing a pact with Tiamat to fight off an invasion from Orcus.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 31, 2017 08:06 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2017 08:06 PM (/jDGf)
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This is quite the step beyond forcing someone to bake the cake--there, you could at least serve other customers. Now, the LGBT crowd is stating flat out that if you don't cater to them, you don't get to do business with anyone.
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 08:03 PM (HcgJZ)
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...no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 08:03 PM (HcgJZ)
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...no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 08:06 PM (2mC6G)
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Most likely scenarios in 2018 and 2020 is a rebranded Deplorable R party picking up ground, including with Deplorable Minorities, and gaining 5% more in the vote.
The Ds at the national level have nothing to run on, and are badly internally divided. I don't see the Ds fixing this any time soon.
One way we could have a civil war is a bullshit attempt to impeach Trump, but that ain't happening.
Efforts to enable Sanctuary Cities are a loser, politically, especially with the Black vote.
We will have a hot summer over Global Warming. Just sit back and laugh.
The Ds at the national level have nothing to run on, and are badly internally divided. I don't see the Ds fixing this any time soon.
One way we could have a civil war is a bullshit attempt to impeach Trump, but that ain't happening.
Efforts to enable Sanctuary Cities are a loser, politically, especially with the Black vote.
We will have a hot summer over Global Warming. Just sit back and laugh.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 31, 2017 08:07 PM (+7/1f)
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Ace...Great work.
"We shall have One Law in this country, or none at all."
That is a good and safe place to start.
"We shall have One Law in this country, or none at all."
That is a good and safe place to start.
Posted by: William Eaton at May 31, 2017 08:07 PM (MuTTO)
495
rickl @ 355 --Civil war stared in 2008.
Well said, comrade. However, I would like to imagine that a percentage, say 10 percent of the ignorant lefty voters are just being used. I hate to see them harmed for being stupid. But as Old Granny used to say on hogkilling day "Let the hair go with the hide'. Since we scraped the hair off the hide and cooked it up for lard, I suppose she was saying a euphemism. It will be what it will be and if ignorant, they are not totally innocent. They gotta go too. Just like their leaders.
Well said, comrade. However, I would like to imagine that a percentage, say 10 percent of the ignorant lefty voters are just being used. I hate to see them harmed for being stupid. But as Old Granny used to say on hogkilling day "Let the hair go with the hide'. Since we scraped the hair off the hide and cooked it up for lard, I suppose she was saying a euphemism. It will be what it will be and if ignorant, they are not totally innocent. They gotta go too. Just like their leaders.
Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2017 08:07 PM (zLDYs)
496
I was unaware that I am obligated to open my property to just any damn body that wants to come in.
Moats and burning oil.
Moats and burning oil.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2017 08:07 PM (F0ZHr)
497
shibumi@388 said, "The media exists to sell advertising. That is their ONLY source of income."
Nope. CNN gets more money from carriage fees bundled up with the price cable companies pay to take the Warner bundle of channels like TBS, TNT, TCM, etc. Same for the others. The megacorp that is Warner could absorb losses from CNN forever, much like NBC runs NBC News at a loss. And if push comes to shove, like the NYT and WaPo they know a Progressive Stalwart Billionaire will step forward to eat the losses. Could Jeff Bezos buy influence through a normal lobbying firm for twice his annual losses from owning the WaPo? He could not, so it isn't like he is even actually losing anything financially and plus he gains much in public image from owning it.
We must make him pay a price. We must make owning a #FakeNews outlet a liability for everyone who owns one. #WAR
Nope. CNN gets more money from carriage fees bundled up with the price cable companies pay to take the Warner bundle of channels like TBS, TNT, TCM, etc. Same for the others. The megacorp that is Warner could absorb losses from CNN forever, much like NBC runs NBC News at a loss. And if push comes to shove, like the NYT and WaPo they know a Progressive Stalwart Billionaire will step forward to eat the losses. Could Jeff Bezos buy influence through a normal lobbying firm for twice his annual losses from owning the WaPo? He could not, so it isn't like he is even actually losing anything financially and plus he gains much in public image from owning it.
We must make him pay a price. We must make owning a #FakeNews outlet a liability for everyone who owns one. #WAR
Posted by: John Morris at May 31, 2017 08:08 PM (sCRhB)
498
Good - no, great - post, Ace.
Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 08:08 PM (ANIFC)
499
Posted by: zombie at May 31, 2017 07:57 PM
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Zombie, this is an excellent post.
Do you ever visit 4chan politically incorrect?
This seems perfect for them.
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Zombie, this is an excellent post.
Do you ever visit 4chan politically incorrect?
This seems perfect for them.
Posted by: shibumi at May 31, 2017 08:08 PM (aT+Bx)
500
484 So the latest advance in the gay rights agenda: The city of Lansing, Michigan just banned a farmer from the farmers market because said farmer didn't hold a lesbian wedding on his farm.
I assume this was done publicly, by a city council vote or something, yes? So the miscreants have names and addresses.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:05 PM (CcuKY)
Recall Prop 8 in California a number of years back. The Leftists got hold of the donors list, or tried desperately to do so. Talk about political persecution.
And further to Ace, the next stage, happening as we speak, is being slammed in the face with a steel bike lock for having the gall and poor taste to dare to exercise your right to protest and/or show support for whom you choose.
This does not end well IF we allow it to not end well. And I don't know how to stop this any more with mere words.
I assume this was done publicly, by a city council vote or something, yes? So the miscreants have names and addresses.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:05 PM (CcuKY)
Recall Prop 8 in California a number of years back. The Leftists got hold of the donors list, or tried desperately to do so. Talk about political persecution.
And further to Ace, the next stage, happening as we speak, is being slammed in the face with a steel bike lock for having the gall and poor taste to dare to exercise your right to protest and/or show support for whom you choose.
This does not end well IF we allow it to not end well. And I don't know how to stop this any more with mere words.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:08 PM (mbhDw)
501
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2017 08:02 PM (V2Yro)
I always phrase my conversation with a cop in a form of a question. Would it be illegal if I called you a %#¥# wannabe facist who has no business carrying a gun? Because I don't want to do anything illegal.
I always phrase my conversation with a cop in a form of a question. Would it be illegal if I called you a %#¥# wannabe facist who has no business carrying a gun? Because I don't want to do anything illegal.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 08:08 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2017 08:09 PM (/jDGf)
503
It is imperative we begin emulating the left in its tactics.
Ace, what do you mean by this?
Are you suggesting that we get down and dirty if necessary? That's perfectly accessible if that's what it takes.
However, you'd damn well be willing to strike at the heart of the matter and not fail to kill.
Of course, what is the strategy you are planning on emulating?
If you think that the Left's tactics is just to shove things in people's faces on the assumption that the other side is nice, and can be stopped by merely standing up against them, then you do not grok the Left's tactics, and thus are playing into their hands than declaring that turnabout is fair play.
The Left have been playing incrementally for over a century. They aim to destroy and replace with their own fevered dreams. When they push something openly, it is because they have successfully made society conducive towards their arguments, give or take a handful of slightly premature attempts at immanentize the eschaton.
In order to fight the Left, we must return society such that it is conducive towards liberty and virtue by normalizing what makes that possible, while concomitantly deligitimizing the very root and basis for the Left's logic. That is playing by the Left's game.
America is not some invention, but a civic heritage that can not be created ex nihilo in vacuo. Simply copying them does not save America, but results in you opposing them, but in you co-opting them. Rather than save America, you end up substituting your own attempt as societal intelligent design for theirs.
You must remove the poison from the soil and properly fertilize it before you can regrow the American Beauty Rose. Otherwise, you'll just get a prettier weed.
Again, if you think that the Left only win because they suddenly push insanity and then the "establishment" lays down either out of cowardliness or collusion, and that the Left can be opposed by emulating their superficial victory dance without actually doing the hard work of laying down the groundwork, then you understand not what the Left are doing, and are incapable of emulating them.
If you really are going to take them on outright, you have better make sure you achieve total victory, and have the ability to not only win, but to suppress all opposition in a rather authoritarian, if not totalitarian, manner for at least some while, while reconstructing a society where you are comfortable laying down power at the end of it. Playing tit-for-tat will do nothing but destroy the remaining edifices and constraints which, even now, not only slow down by channeling the drive of the Left, but provides a path back.
In other words, if you go Pinochet, you go full Pinochet.
I doubt that very many people here would be willing to actually do what is necessary to win, or even have an understanding of much of an unlikely one-shot that will be.
And don't give me that "Flight 93 Election" bulls**t. If you think that if we just stand up and fight by emulating the superficial actions of the Left, and thereafter be #winning, then you are an optimist.
Quite frankly, what I see is people waking up to discover the end result of decades, if not well over a century, of undermining this country, and thinking that they can rebuild simply by pantomiming the end result, is nothing but wishful thinking by a bunch of Pollyannas.
So go ahead and call me a coward or a sell-out for not not "scratching that itch" of doing something, even when that something will likely give America sepsis to compound the cancer that is the Left.
Ace, what do you mean by this?
Are you suggesting that we get down and dirty if necessary? That's perfectly accessible if that's what it takes.
However, you'd damn well be willing to strike at the heart of the matter and not fail to kill.
Of course, what is the strategy you are planning on emulating?
If you think that the Left's tactics is just to shove things in people's faces on the assumption that the other side is nice, and can be stopped by merely standing up against them, then you do not grok the Left's tactics, and thus are playing into their hands than declaring that turnabout is fair play.
The Left have been playing incrementally for over a century. They aim to destroy and replace with their own fevered dreams. When they push something openly, it is because they have successfully made society conducive towards their arguments, give or take a handful of slightly premature attempts at immanentize the eschaton.
In order to fight the Left, we must return society such that it is conducive towards liberty and virtue by normalizing what makes that possible, while concomitantly deligitimizing the very root and basis for the Left's logic. That is playing by the Left's game.
America is not some invention, but a civic heritage that can not be created ex nihilo in vacuo. Simply copying them does not save America, but results in you opposing them, but in you co-opting them. Rather than save America, you end up substituting your own attempt as societal intelligent design for theirs.
You must remove the poison from the soil and properly fertilize it before you can regrow the American Beauty Rose. Otherwise, you'll just get a prettier weed.
Again, if you think that the Left only win because they suddenly push insanity and then the "establishment" lays down either out of cowardliness or collusion, and that the Left can be opposed by emulating their superficial victory dance without actually doing the hard work of laying down the groundwork, then you understand not what the Left are doing, and are incapable of emulating them.
If you really are going to take them on outright, you have better make sure you achieve total victory, and have the ability to not only win, but to suppress all opposition in a rather authoritarian, if not totalitarian, manner for at least some while, while reconstructing a society where you are comfortable laying down power at the end of it. Playing tit-for-tat will do nothing but destroy the remaining edifices and constraints which, even now, not only slow down by channeling the drive of the Left, but provides a path back.
In other words, if you go Pinochet, you go full Pinochet.
I doubt that very many people here would be willing to actually do what is necessary to win, or even have an understanding of much of an unlikely one-shot that will be.
And don't give me that "Flight 93 Election" bulls**t. If you think that if we just stand up and fight by emulating the superficial actions of the Left, and thereafter be #winning, then you are an optimist.
Quite frankly, what I see is people waking up to discover the end result of decades, if not well over a century, of undermining this country, and thinking that they can rebuild simply by pantomiming the end result, is nothing but wishful thinking by a bunch of Pollyannas.
So go ahead and call me a coward or a sell-out for not not "scratching that itch" of doing something, even when that something will likely give America sepsis to compound the cancer that is the Left.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 31, 2017 08:09 PM (rUIbB)
504
yeah but the GOP has decided that having one law in this country will drive the moderates to crack each others skulls open to feast on the gooey goodness inside. but hey, tax cuts.
Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at May 31, 2017 08:09 PM (g9A94)
505
So it's actually East Lansing, Michigan. His farm is 22 miles outside the limits of the city, but the City banned him anyway. His farm is Country Mill Farms, and the guy's name is Stephen Tennes.
There's not much else I know. Story was a short blurb in the Deseret News.
There's not much else I know. Story was a short blurb in the Deseret News.
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 08:10 PM (HcgJZ)
506
Puck drop in Pittsburgh
Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 08:10 PM (qJhUV)
507
I would consider getting involved in them much like I'd consider signing a pact with Tiamat to fight off an invasion from Orcus.
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Don't know what any of that means except that you're not allying with them.
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Don't know what any of that means except that you're not allying with them.
Posted by: BuckIV at May 31, 2017 08:10 PM (CLfqv)
508
Every normal man must be tempted at times...
Posted by: Some Guy (a different Some Guy) at May 31, 2017 08:10 PM (rv0Fo)
509
"Now, the LGBT crowd is stating flat out that if you don't cater to them, you don't get to do business with anyone."
Including with public authorities.
San Antonio's city council and mayor decreed that if you're not on board 100% with their *rather expansive* view of the LGBT-OMG-WTF agenda, then you are perforce ineligible to be hired by the city in any capacity, and equally ineligible to compete for any contracts which the city may let out for bidding.
Including with public authorities.
San Antonio's city council and mayor decreed that if you're not on board 100% with their *rather expansive* view of the LGBT-OMG-WTF agenda, then you are perforce ineligible to be hired by the city in any capacity, and equally ineligible to compete for any contracts which the city may let out for bidding.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (ujwCG)
510
Just for the record, anyone who thinks I should feel sorry for that Griffin troll, I refer you to the Curt Schilling courtesy phone. Hypocritical Satan pawns.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (F0ZHr)
511
I mostly know and relate to conservatives but I also know liberals and leftists.
I know Christians, atheists, hindus and muslims and the odd Sikh.
I know well-read, intelligent people and I know a lot of dumb asses.
But I don't know a single shrieking scumbag that seem to rule the news.
Pretty much all the people I know simply want to make a living and take care of their families.
Where do these cockroaches hide out?
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I live in the suburbs of a big blue city and used to work in local tv.
These cockroaches are your neighbors and your relatives. They are the poeple in line behind you at the grocery store and parked next to you in the parking lot. If you live in a red state, they are not empowered to talk.
Visit a blue state. Listen to the crazy. It is old, young, smart, stupid, white, black, Christian, Jewish, Muslim and atheist.
BTW, there were FOUR people in the entire tv station that were tagged as conservative. You had to keep your mouth shut or you'd be shunned.
I know Christians, atheists, hindus and muslims and the odd Sikh.
I know well-read, intelligent people and I know a lot of dumb asses.
But I don't know a single shrieking scumbag that seem to rule the news.
Pretty much all the people I know simply want to make a living and take care of their families.
Where do these cockroaches hide out?
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I live in the suburbs of a big blue city and used to work in local tv.
These cockroaches are your neighbors and your relatives. They are the poeple in line behind you at the grocery store and parked next to you in the parking lot. If you live in a red state, they are not empowered to talk.
Visit a blue state. Listen to the crazy. It is old, young, smart, stupid, white, black, Christian, Jewish, Muslim and atheist.
BTW, there were FOUR people in the entire tv station that were tagged as conservative. You had to keep your mouth shut or you'd be shunned.
Posted by: shibumi at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (aT+Bx)
512
Never say anything that you would worry about saying to a police officer on the side of the road at night, or in front of a judge in open court.
Your honor, I would like to mark as Exhibit 1 this photo of Ms
Hope Solo's nether regions.
Your honor, I would like to mark as Exhibit 1 this photo of Ms
Hope Solo's nether regions.
Posted by: wooga at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (mqHvU)
513
Be forewarned-- there is lots of racisim and prejudice there
Posted by: shibumi at May 31, 2017 07:43 PM (aT+Bx)
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The only part of racism and prejudice I don't get is the "White privilege" and "the black experience" while simultaneously demanding group classifications are not applied in reverse.
Posted by: shibumi at May 31, 2017 07:43 PM (aT+Bx)
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The only part of racism and prejudice I don't get is the "White privilege" and "the black experience" while simultaneously demanding group classifications are not applied in reverse.
Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (sQx3i)
514
I so so want the LeBron James racist graffiti incident to be a leftist hoax.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (U6f54)
515
'Charlie Brown's Dildo Don't Surf' - The Clash (1980)
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (/jDGf)
516
*dons goggles*
I draw the line at the school girl uniform and you scamps are not getting cameras.
I draw the line at the school girl uniform and you scamps are not getting cameras.
Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (dEQP3)
517
509 "Now, the LGBT crowd is stating flat out that if you don't cater to them, you don't get to do business with anyone."
Including with public authorities.
San Antonio's city council and mayor decreed that if you're not on board 100% with their *rather expansive* view of the LGBT-OMG-WTF agenda, then you are perforce ineligible to be hired by the city in any capacity, and equally ineligible to compete for any contracts which the city may let out for bidding.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (ujwCG)
"Will Governor Abbot please pick up the white courtesy baseball bat? . . ."
Including with public authorities.
San Antonio's city council and mayor decreed that if you're not on board 100% with their *rather expansive* view of the LGBT-OMG-WTF agenda, then you are perforce ineligible to be hired by the city in any capacity, and equally ineligible to compete for any contracts which the city may let out for bidding.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (ujwCG)
"Will Governor Abbot please pick up the white courtesy baseball bat? . . ."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:12 PM (mbhDw)
518
Things are going to get ugly.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 31, 2017 08:12 PM (9hBOH)
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2017 08:12 PM (/jDGf)
520
Your honor, I would like to mark as Exhibit 1 this photo of Ms Hope Solo's nether regions.
..not because it has anything to do with the case. Just because I want to.
..not because it has anything to do with the case. Just because I want to.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2017 08:12 PM (CcuKY)
521
...no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 08:06 PM (2mC6G)
You know what ... I don't go to church. Shitty imposition on their insurance, as far as I'm concerned. I'd be a dick for bringing that risk into their house.
But I shit you not ... that verse has been in my head for months.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 08:06 PM (2mC6G)
You know what ... I don't go to church. Shitty imposition on their insurance, as far as I'm concerned. I'd be a dick for bringing that risk into their house.
But I shit you not ... that verse has been in my head for months.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 31, 2017 08:12 PM (fiGNd)
522
I won't play that game any longer... I will not be weak, because they want to use their victimhood or weakness against me....
Posted by: Don Q. at May 31, 2017 08:00 PM (NgKpN)
The chick was daring you to hit her. That's wrong. So wrong.
Posted by: Don Q. at May 31, 2017 08:00 PM (NgKpN)
The chick was daring you to hit her. That's wrong. So wrong.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:13 PM (nQ+bw)
523
Well crap. I forgot that gays and crossdressers are a uniform group when it suits them, too.
Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 08:13 PM (sQx3i)
524
Country Boy is not banned.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 31, 2017 08:13 PM (d76uN)
525
>> "Now, the LGBT crowd is stating flat out that if you don't cater to them, you don't get to do business with anyone."
If a Lesbian won't suck my cock, why should I be expected to do anything for them?
If a Lesbian won't suck my cock, why should I be expected to do anything for them?
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2017 08:14 PM (/jDGf)
526
514 I so so want the LeBron James racist graffiti incident to be a leftist hoax.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (U6f54)
I'll put the odds at 60/40 its a leftist hoax. If you want to include some Mexican edgy gangbanger wannabe as a part of "leftist hoax" then the odds are 90/10.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (U6f54)
I'll put the odds at 60/40 its a leftist hoax. If you want to include some Mexican edgy gangbanger wannabe as a part of "leftist hoax" then the odds are 90/10.
Posted by: buzzion at May 31, 2017 08:14 PM (z/Ubi)
527
g'early evenin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2017 08:14 PM (KCxzN)
528
Nope. CNN gets more money from carriage fees bundled up with the price cable companies pay to take the Warner bundle of channels like TBS, TNT, TCM, etc. Same for the others. The megacorp that is Warner could absorb losses from CNN forever, much like NBC runs NBC News at a loss. And if push comes to shove, like the NYT and WaPo they know a Progressive Stalwart Billionaire will step forward to eat the losses. Could Jeff Bezos buy influence through a normal lobbying firm for twice his annual losses from owning the WaPo? He could not, so it isn't like he is even actually losing anything financially and plus he gains much in public image from owning it.
We must make him pay a price. We must make owning a #FakeNews outlet a liability for everyone who owns one. #WAR
Posted by: John Morris at May 31, 2017 08:08 PM (sCRhB)
Testify, my brother.
We must make him pay a price. We must make owning a #FakeNews outlet a liability for everyone who owns one. #WAR
Posted by: John Morris at May 31, 2017 08:08 PM (sCRhB)
Testify, my brother.
Posted by: ESPN at May 31, 2017 08:14 PM (s5o+q)
529
You have one side who is the Borg and the other side who are made up of individualists. Hard to organize individualists to battle the Borg. It will take a big catastrophic event. Not sure that will happen. Instead I think we're headed to a European type of decline.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 08:14 PM (IDPbH)
530
The farm that didn't accommodate the homosexual marrying party does have on its website that they do weddings as part of their business. I don't know if that makes a difference under Michigan law.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:15 PM (lwiT4)
531
So it's actually East Lansing, Michigan. His farm is 22 miles outside the limits of the city, but the City banned him anyway.
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Ah, a commerce clause case.
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Ah, a commerce clause case.
Posted by: Hate Has No Home Here But He Knows the Wi-Fi Key and Helps With The Weedeating at May 31, 2017 08:15 PM (sQx3i)
532
516 *dons goggles*
I draw the line at the school girl uniform and you scamps are not getting cameras.
Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (dEQP3)
Well if you're gonna go goggles, then how about something in the outfit stylings of Becky Lynch.
I draw the line at the school girl uniform and you scamps are not getting cameras.
Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (dEQP3)
Well if you're gonna go goggles, then how about something in the outfit stylings of Becky Lynch.
Posted by: buzzion at May 31, 2017 08:15 PM (z/Ubi)
533
511
These cockroaches are your neighbors and your relatives. They are the poeple in line behind you at the grocery store and parked next to you in the parking lot. If you live in a red state, they are not empowered to talk.
Posted by: shibumi at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (aT+Bx)
I live in a purple suburban county, and after the elections of 2008 and 2012 I was all too aware that half the people I saw in the supermarket would have been perfectly OK with the government killing me and giving them my stuff.
These cockroaches are your neighbors and your relatives. They are the poeple in line behind you at the grocery store and parked next to you in the parking lot. If you live in a red state, they are not empowered to talk.
Posted by: shibumi at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (aT+Bx)
I live in a purple suburban county, and after the elections of 2008 and 2012 I was all too aware that half the people I saw in the supermarket would have been perfectly OK with the government killing me and giving them my stuff.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 08:15 PM (sdi6R)
534
Well said Political Hat. I may be uncomfortable but we all need to be real in what exactly we are willing to do and to be equally honest about what we won't do.
Posted by: lightning at May 31, 2017 08:15 PM (oJSnD)
535
518 Things are going to get ugly.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 31, 2017 08:12 PM (9hBOH)
What are they now, if not that? Is there a pre-ugly stage?
Asking for a fiend.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 31, 2017 08:12 PM (9hBOH)
What are they now, if not that? Is there a pre-ugly stage?
Asking for a fiend.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:15 PM (mbhDw)
536
>> I so so want the LeBron James racist graffiti incident to be a leftist hoax.
I want to know if the property is ever rented / leased or if it's a personal residence.
I want to know if the property is ever rented / leased or if it's a personal residence.
Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2017 08:16 PM (/jDGf)
537
"Now, the LGBT crowd is stating flat out that if you don't cater to them, you don't get to do business with anyone."
So the mark on the head or the hand is a rainbow flag.
Not what I expected for the Beast, but it is what it is.
So the mark on the head or the hand is a rainbow flag.
Not what I expected for the Beast, but it is what it is.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 08:16 PM (66CWr)
538
Well if you're gonna go goggles, then how about something in the outfit stylings of Becky Lynch.
Posted by: buzzion at May 31, 2017 08:15 PM (z/Ubi)
*taps chin*
Depends how high the Kickstarter gets.
Posted by: buzzion at May 31, 2017 08:15 PM (z/Ubi)
*taps chin*
Depends how high the Kickstarter gets.
Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:16 PM (dEQP3)
539
*dons goggles*
I draw the line at the school girl uniform and you scamps are not getting cameras.
Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (dEQP3)
That's fine, you can leave the school girl uniform off.
And we'll bring in an artist for tasteful sketches.
I draw the line at the school girl uniform and you scamps are not getting cameras.
Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:11 PM (dEQP3)
That's fine, you can leave the school girl uniform off.
And we'll bring in an artist for tasteful sketches.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 08:17 PM (fKWf6)
540
What are they now, if not that? Is there a pre-ugly stage?
Asking for a fiend.
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I mean Cultural Revolution ugly.
Asking for a fiend.
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I mean Cultural Revolution ugly.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 31, 2017 08:17 PM (9hBOH)
541
2b) Republican Senators up to their hearing aids in the email fiasco.
Posted by: DaveA at May 31, 2017 08:17 PM (FhXTo)
542
What are they now, if not that? Is there a pre-ugly stage?
Asking for a fiend.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:15 PM (mbhDw)
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Come stay with me, J.J. We'll take you to the Milk Parade. It's good for the soul. The aroma of fresh cow manure will calm the fevered brain.
Asking for a fiend.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:15 PM (mbhDw)
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Come stay with me, J.J. We'll take you to the Milk Parade. It's good for the soul. The aroma of fresh cow manure will calm the fevered brain.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (lwiT4)
543
But I shit you not ... that verse has been in my head for months.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 31, 2017 08:12 PM (fiGNd)
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And I don't post a whole lot of Bible verses, but there you go. TFW...
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 31, 2017 08:12 PM (fiGNd)
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And I don't post a whole lot of Bible verses, but there you go. TFW...
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (2mC6G)
544
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:12 PM (mbhDw)
Am I the only one that remembers when the LGBT crowd just wanted civil unions and to be left alone? They said of course we don't want marriage, just to be tolerated. I remember.
Tolerance, that word does not mean what you think it means.
Am I the only one that remembers when the LGBT crowd just wanted civil unions and to be left alone? They said of course we don't want marriage, just to be tolerated. I remember.
Tolerance, that word does not mean what you think it means.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (Ri/rl)
545
I fear you are correct Cicero.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (CNHr1)
546
That's fine, you can leave the school girl uniform off.
I did that to me.
And we'll bring in an artist for tasteful sketches.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 08:17 PM (fKWf6)
Because if there's anything for which the Horde is know, it's being tasteful.
I did that to me.
And we'll bring in an artist for tasteful sketches.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 08:17 PM (fKWf6)
Because if there's anything for which the Horde is know, it's being tasteful.
Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (dEQP3)
547
542 Come stay with me, J.J. We'll take you to the Milk Parade. It's good for the soul. The aroma of fresh cow manure will calm the fevered brain.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (lwiT4)
What's brown and sounds like a bell?
Dung!
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (lwiT4)
What's brown and sounds like a bell?
Dung!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (mbhDw)
548
529 You have one side who is the Borg and the other side who are made up of individualists. Hard to organize individualists to battle the Borg. It will take a big catastrophic event. Not sure that will happen. Instead I think we're headed to a European type of decline.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 08:14 PM (IDPbH)
All other things being equal, I would agree with you on this one. Islam, however is the turd in the punch bowl of socialist decline. It makes things more interesting.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 08:14 PM (IDPbH)
All other things being equal, I would agree with you on this one. Islam, however is the turd in the punch bowl of socialist decline. It makes things more interesting.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 08:19 PM (ZgkX8)
549
I haven't read through the comments yet,but, I must comment on the Post. It's not about Griffin exercising her freedom so much as the line she crossed in civility, morals and nastiness. Yes, it's time to stand up to the uncivilized behavior and to start holding them accountable. Loudly, relentlessly, vigorously and righteously. If they break the law, prosecute. If they pull a Griffin or Colbert, turn them off and be vocal about the why. Once the money dries up, we will see a change. But, we must be determined to not become them in the process.
Posted by: dailydish at May 31, 2017 08:19 PM (g5vXL)
550
yo
Posted by: Ralph at May 31, 2017 08:19 PM (pvwwD)
551
Am I the only one that remembers when the LGBT crowd just wanted civil unions and to be left alone? They said of course we don't want marriage, just to be tolerated. I remember.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (Ri/rl)
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And the camel just wanted to warm its nose...
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (Ri/rl)
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And the camel just wanted to warm its nose...
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 08:20 PM (2mC6G)
552
544 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:12 PM (mbhDw)
Am I the only one that remembers when the LGBT crowd just wanted civil unions and to be left alone? They said of course we don't want marriage, just to be tolerated. I remember.
Tolerance, that word does not mean what you think it means.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (Ri/rl)
"I have no more territorial demands after Munich."
- - A. Hitler
Plus ca change, plus la meme chose.
Am I the only one that remembers when the LGBT crowd just wanted civil unions and to be left alone? They said of course we don't want marriage, just to be tolerated. I remember.
Tolerance, that word does not mean what you think it means.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (Ri/rl)
"I have no more territorial demands after Munich."
- - A. Hitler
Plus ca change, plus la meme chose.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:20 PM (mbhDw)
553
Because if there's anything for which the Horde is know, it's being tasteful.
Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (dEQP3)
We're classy as fuck. I'll have you know that my codpieces are subtle and reserved.
Because if there's anything for which the Horde is know, it's being tasteful.
Posted by: alexthechick - fagette at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (dEQP3)
We're classy as fuck. I'll have you know that my codpieces are subtle and reserved.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 31, 2017 08:20 PM (fKWf6)
554
Daily dish... that's pretty much what I said in my rant on FB. She has the right but by God we have the right to torment her relentlessly.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 31, 2017 08:20 PM (CNHr1)
555
If this plan is going to work - and I think it can - it's going to require a few things of us. We have to stop being afraid of being called "homophobe" "transphobe" "Islamaphobe" "sexist" "racist" etc.
It's already kinda-sorta happened with "racist". That particular term isn't delivering the kind of results that it used to, so the progs have largely shifted to "white supremicicst" and "Nazi".
We have to be able to shrug these insults off. And that sucks, because I hate racism (real racism, that is). I don't want to be indifferent to it, but we're going to have to be because it will always ALWAYS be used against us, and never against them.
Another thing we're going to have to do is provoke. This is why I was disappointed when the right disavowed Milo. He's one of the best provocateurs we've got. Ann Coulter is good, too. Stop apologizing for her. Stop saying, "I can't stand her, but she's right." Just say, "She's right". The left doesn't abandon their crazies. They make their crazies the leaders. (Not that I think Ann is crazy. You know what I mean.)
But really - and this is where it's going to be hard - we have to do our own long march. We have to get jobs as college professors, and reporters, and such. We have to get our hands on the levers of cultural transmission. We'll have to hide our beliefs until we have power. Then we can "evolve" (Like the JEF with gay marriage.)
Sort term, we can't be afraid to say things like "There are only two genders" or "There's no Global Warming". Yes, it's going to suck. We're going to have arguments. We're going to take hits. We just have to make sure we hit back.
Last thing: We must prepare for violence. If a Berkeley type thing happens in your town, you should be out there being like Based Stick Man. Like Ace says, we're going to have to get arrested and shit.
This is war.
It's already kinda-sorta happened with "racist". That particular term isn't delivering the kind of results that it used to, so the progs have largely shifted to "white supremicicst" and "Nazi".
We have to be able to shrug these insults off. And that sucks, because I hate racism (real racism, that is). I don't want to be indifferent to it, but we're going to have to be because it will always ALWAYS be used against us, and never against them.
Another thing we're going to have to do is provoke. This is why I was disappointed when the right disavowed Milo. He's one of the best provocateurs we've got. Ann Coulter is good, too. Stop apologizing for her. Stop saying, "I can't stand her, but she's right." Just say, "She's right". The left doesn't abandon their crazies. They make their crazies the leaders. (Not that I think Ann is crazy. You know what I mean.)
But really - and this is where it's going to be hard - we have to do our own long march. We have to get jobs as college professors, and reporters, and such. We have to get our hands on the levers of cultural transmission. We'll have to hide our beliefs until we have power. Then we can "evolve" (Like the JEF with gay marriage.)
Sort term, we can't be afraid to say things like "There are only two genders" or "There's no Global Warming". Yes, it's going to suck. We're going to have arguments. We're going to take hits. We just have to make sure we hit back.
Last thing: We must prepare for violence. If a Berkeley type thing happens in your town, you should be out there being like Based Stick Man. Like Ace says, we're going to have to get arrested and shit.
This is war.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at May 31, 2017 08:20 PM (gQVIy)
556
524 Country Boy is not banned.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 31, 2017 08:13 PM (d76uN)
Then I apologize for wrong statements ... and I'll be glad to settle a bar tab in your favor.
Please let me know how I can square up. I'm serious.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 31, 2017 08:13 PM (d76uN)
Then I apologize for wrong statements ... and I'll be glad to settle a bar tab in your favor.
Please let me know how I can square up. I'm serious.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 31, 2017 08:21 PM (fiGNd)
557
Watch him with Dave Rubin...This guy is a total 'progressive' type person..But, what has happened to him is absolutely disgraceful. The only 'people' that seem to be coming to his defense are from the 'right'. Its just amazing how far gone we really are at this point. His wife was threatened by another professor and from students. There has been zero repercussions for any of these fools. And another thing...if you watch the initial video..its mostly white kids who are doing the chanting,screaming etc etc. And we're not talking about 'Milo' here..lol..this guy is as harmless as it comes. This really is bizzarro world. Very sad state of affairs. History shows that there are two possible outcomes to most situations. We are getting to that point, very quickly.
Posted by: johny boy at May 31, 2017 08:21 PM (UNXWZ)
558
This is why leftist admire Mohammedans.
Submit is the only choice you get with Mohammedans or die.
The leftist agree.
Let's get over this, it's WAR. Buy more ammo.
Submit is the only choice you get with Mohammedans or die.
The leftist agree.
Let's get over this, it's WAR. Buy more ammo.
Posted by: Ralph at May 31, 2017 08:21 PM (pvwwD)
559
524 Country Boy is not banned.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 31, 2017 08:13 PM (d76uN)
I saw yesterday where either CharlieBrown'sDildo or Oregon Muse gave him a rather pointed warning.
(For some reason I get those two mixed up, and I have no idea why.)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 31, 2017 08:13 PM (d76uN)
I saw yesterday where either CharlieBrown'sDildo or Oregon Muse gave him a rather pointed warning.
(For some reason I get those two mixed up, and I have no idea why.)
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 08:21 PM (sdi6R)
560
Isn't he the DJ, or am I thinking of someone else?
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:00 PM (lwiT4)
Someone else...namely, me.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:00 PM (lwiT4)
Someone else...namely, me.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 31, 2017 08:22 PM (rJUlF)
561
492 This is quite the step beyond forcing someone to bake the cake--there, you could at least serve other customers. Now, the LGBT crowd is stating flat out that if you don't cater to them, you don't get to do business with anyone.
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 08:03 PM (HcgJZ)
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...no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 08:06 PM (2mC6G)
How many stripes are in the ghey rainbow flag? Six. A real rainbow, symbol of God's promise to man after the flood, has seven colors. Six is the bad number in the Bible, and seven is Godly.
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 08:03 PM (HcgJZ)
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...no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 08:06 PM (2mC6G)
How many stripes are in the ghey rainbow flag? Six. A real rainbow, symbol of God's promise to man after the flood, has seven colors. Six is the bad number in the Bible, and seven is Godly.
Posted by: josephistan at May 31, 2017 08:22 PM (ANIFC)
562
Country Boy understood this missive from Ace. He got banned yesterday.
He did? Fuck, I like Country Boy. What happened?
He did? Fuck, I like Country Boy. What happened?
Posted by: Insomniac, forgotten but not gone at May 31, 2017 08:22 PM (0mRoj)
563
What Is To Be Done? - V.I. Lenin, 1902
The Left's playbook, prior to Alinsky.
They're following it to the letter.
The Left's playbook, prior to Alinsky.
They're following it to the letter.
Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2017 08:22 PM (s5o+q)
564
You must remove the poison from the soil and properly fertilize it
before you can regrow the American Beauty Rose. Otherwise, you'll just
get a prettier weed.
Public. Schools.
before you can regrow the American Beauty Rose. Otherwise, you'll just
get a prettier weed.
Public. Schools.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 31, 2017 08:22 PM (Tyii7)
565
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 08:21 PM (sdi6R)
I think it actually was Tim in Illinois that gave him a timeout,
I think it actually was Tim in Illinois that gave him a timeout,
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 08:22 PM (IDPbH)
566
"Now, the LGBT crowd is stating flat out that if you don't cater to them, you don't get to do business with anyone."
They just want to be like everyone else. Sure they do.
I'm a big believer in incrementalism. You can smoke on the plane. Then you can only smoke in this part of the plane. Then you can't smoke on the plane. So just smoke in the bar in the airport. Then smoke in this part of the bar at the airport. Then you can't smoke at the bar at the airport. So smoke in the smoking section at the airport. Then there's no more smoking section at the airport. So smoke outside at the airport. Then you can't smoke at the airport. So smoke it the cab heading to the airport. Then you can't smoke in the cab.
We know what's best for you. It's for your own good.
The point is, if they see you'll stand for it, you'll get it. Good and hard.
They just want to be like everyone else. Sure they do.
I'm a big believer in incrementalism. You can smoke on the plane. Then you can only smoke in this part of the plane. Then you can't smoke on the plane. So just smoke in the bar in the airport. Then smoke in this part of the bar at the airport. Then you can't smoke at the bar at the airport. So smoke in the smoking section at the airport. Then there's no more smoking section at the airport. So smoke outside at the airport. Then you can't smoke at the airport. So smoke it the cab heading to the airport. Then you can't smoke in the cab.
We know what's best for you. It's for your own good.
The point is, if they see you'll stand for it, you'll get it. Good and hard.
Posted by: tu3031 at May 31, 2017 08:23 PM (qJhUV)
567
But I do want a divorce.
Again, white men ain't doing so well in court these days.
Even if Alberta does have a sweet ass.
Again, white men ain't doing so well in court these days.
Even if Alberta does have a sweet ass.
Posted by: DaveA at May 31, 2017 08:23 PM (FhXTo)
568
Someone else...namely, me.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 31, 2017 08:22 PM (rJUlF)
=============================
Your nics both begin with C. I cannot be held responsible.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 31, 2017 08:22 PM (rJUlF)
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Your nics both begin with C. I cannot be held responsible.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:24 PM (lwiT4)
569
Embrace the Zeitgeist!
Posted by: BraineaterBob at May 31, 2017 08:25 PM (8PKnI)
570
"I have no more territorial demands after Munich."
- - A. Hitler
Plus ca change, plus la meme chose.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:20 PM (mbhDw)
History is first repeated as tragedy, then as farce, then as stupidity because you stupid idiots won't learn.
The original quote was actually a kind of funny thing for Marx to have said. This is considering his supposed adherents have been trying to create his dream for years, but always get the same despots, starvation and brutal repression every time. The names may change, but the pile of bodies never lie.
Venezuela: This time it will be different!
- - A. Hitler
Plus ca change, plus la meme chose.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2017 08:20 PM (mbhDw)
History is first repeated as tragedy, then as farce, then as stupidity because you stupid idiots won't learn.
The original quote was actually a kind of funny thing for Marx to have said. This is considering his supposed adherents have been trying to create his dream for years, but always get the same despots, starvation and brutal repression every time. The names may change, but the pile of bodies never lie.
Venezuela: This time it will be different!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 08:25 PM (ZgkX8)
571
Is it still OK to make fun of cripples and retards?
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (Sfs6o)
572
The farmer in Lansing had previously allowed people to schedule weddings in his orchards. He did however as a practicing Catholic refused to allow LGBT weddings. East Lansing saw his posting informing those customers of his of his private farms policy and decided that he cannot sell apples at the East Lansing farmers market. Despite the fact that he is not discriminating against anyone at the market. The city of East Lansing has no authority to determine what he does on his farm located out of the city. He is suing East Lansing and let's hope for once the good guys win
Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (31ZTX)
573
Posted by: Farmer Joe at May 31, 2017 08:20 PM (gQVIy)
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Yup. I am not that far to the right. But I've always preached against the knee-buckling I'm-not-as-bad-as-those-guys-to-my-right lib-appeasement practiced for decades by various strains of "conservatives". Like the original virtue-signalers, the libertarians.
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Yup. I am not that far to the right. But I've always preached against the knee-buckling I'm-not-as-bad-as-those-guys-to-my-right lib-appeasement practiced for decades by various strains of "conservatives". Like the original virtue-signalers, the libertarians.
Posted by: Axeman at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (2mC6G)
574
Another loon on tucker...
Posted by: E.T. at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (P1GJy)
575
Your nics both begin with C. I cannot be held responsible.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha
Wonder how you keep all us "B C" names straight...
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha
Wonder how you keep all us "B C" names straight...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (66CWr)
576
Is it still OK to make fun of cripples and retards?
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (Sfs6o)
Ummmmmmm....Yes.
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (Sfs6o)
Ummmmmmm....Yes.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (5VlCp)
577
571 Is it still OK to make fun of cripples and retards?
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (Sfs6o)
I miss Handicap Man.
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (Sfs6o)
I miss Handicap Man.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 08:27 PM (IDPbH)
578
Now I don't feel bad about accusing a liberal when talking about school that he's against school choice because he's afraid of black and brown families.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Luchini aka This Is It What at May 31, 2017 08:27 PM (IYHxL)
579
(For some reason I get those two mixed up, and I have no idea why.)
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 08:21 PM (sdi6R)
They are on about the same time of day a lot, it seems.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 08:21 PM (sdi6R)
They are on about the same time of day a lot, it seems.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 08:27 PM (ZgkX8)
580
Wonder how you keep all us "B C" names straight...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (66CWr)
==========================
Rolodex.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (66CWr)
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Rolodex.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:27 PM (lwiT4)
581
Ethnic cleansing!!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2017 08:27 PM (IqV8l)
582
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 08:27 PM (IDPbH)
Handiman.
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE HANDICAPPED!
Handiman.
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE HANDICAPPED!
Posted by: thathalfrican - Luchini aka This Is It What at May 31, 2017 08:27 PM (IYHxL)
583
History is first repeated as tragedy, then as farce, then as stupidity because you stupid idiots won't learn.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 08:25 PM (ZgkX
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That's what I've been saying.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 08:25 PM (ZgkX
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That's what I've been saying.
Posted by: George Santayana at May 31, 2017 08:27 PM (2mC6G)
584
OT: Watching Game 2 of the Stanley Cup. During a pause in the action, they played at the arena one of my favorite Black Sabbath songs; The Mob Rules! I love Pittsburgh!!
GO PENS!!
GO PENS!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 31, 2017 08:28 PM (pY+s4)
585
....and thats how we got trump
Posted by: E.T. at May 31, 2017 08:28 PM (P1GJy)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 31, 2017 08:28 PM (d76uN)
587
Bin Laden gets a lot of credit for the Cell System, but the Soviets were way ahead of him in their subversion of the USA.
Posted by: davidt at May 31, 2017 08:28 PM (XoldI)
588
Your nics both begin with C. I cannot be held responsible.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:24 PM (lwiT4)
No worries, grammie. Hope you and yours are doing well!
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:24 PM (lwiT4)
No worries, grammie.
Hope you and yours are doing well!
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 31, 2017 08:28 PM (rJUlF)
589
580 Wonder how you keep all us "B C" names straight...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (66CWr)
==========================
Rolodex.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:27 PM (
---------
Dr. Jill bought me a Rolodex. Most accurate watch I ever owned.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (66CWr)
==========================
Rolodex.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at May 31, 2017 08:27 PM (
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Dr. Jill bought me a Rolodex. Most accurate watch I ever owned.
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 31, 2017 08:28 PM (9hBOH)
590
Why wait for the movie, I just read the book. Great post, Ace. Delapsus resurgam.
Posted by: Corona at May 31, 2017 08:29 PM (/Z/Pe)
591
Now the, still existing, FBI has opened a hate file. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Posted by: KentAllard at May 31, 2017 08:29 PM (TQw9b)
592
Only when they start seeing themselves blacklisted for employment will
these morally senseless people learn that blacklisting is bad. They do
not have moral sense, but I trust most of them are not so stupid that
they don't possess a basic practical regard for their own self-interest.
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Only paragraph I disagree with.
Epic post. Now take the gloves off and say what you really mean ...
these morally senseless people learn that blacklisting is bad. They do
not have moral sense, but I trust most of them are not so stupid that
they don't possess a basic practical regard for their own self-interest.
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Only paragraph I disagree with.
Epic post. Now take the gloves off and say what you really mean ...
Posted by: ShainS at May 31, 2017 08:29 PM (ZcAbN)
593
still reading, but this line --
" They do not have moral sense, but I trust most of them are not so stupid that they don't possess a basic practical regard for their own self-interest."
made me pause. The progressive ideology is built on an armature of inequality. Eugenicists never worried that *their* children would be eliminated. Communist party members never worried about losing *their* dacha. Affirmative action proponents never worry about *their* spot being earmarked for a less qualified minority. Gun grabbers never worry that *their* safety will be at risk and they left defenseless. Open border types never worry that *their* neighborhood, or school, or park will be overrun by MS13 and their progeny destroying property values, safety, and lives.
What I am saying is that they are not stupid (necessarily,) but they are delusional. While I support fighting back, lets not kid ourselves that the leaders really give a shit if there is more destruction of the laws and conventions of civilization - that is what they want, after all.
" They do not have moral sense, but I trust most of them are not so stupid that they don't possess a basic practical regard for their own self-interest."
made me pause. The progressive ideology is built on an armature of inequality. Eugenicists never worried that *their* children would be eliminated. Communist party members never worried about losing *their* dacha. Affirmative action proponents never worry about *their* spot being earmarked for a less qualified minority. Gun grabbers never worry that *their* safety will be at risk and they left defenseless. Open border types never worry that *their* neighborhood, or school, or park will be overrun by MS13 and their progeny destroying property values, safety, and lives.
What I am saying is that they are not stupid (necessarily,) but they are delusional. While I support fighting back, lets not kid ourselves that the leaders really give a shit if there is more destruction of the laws and conventions of civilization - that is what they want, after all.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 31, 2017 08:29 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 31, 2017 08:30 PM (cGLu6)
595
I suppose we can pass an ordinance now saying that all liberal businesses cannot do business in our town, because political reasons we disagree with them, right?
They discriminate against Republicans, it's all the fig leaf we need.
They discriminate against Republicans, it's all the fig leaf we need.
Posted by: Vanceone at May 31, 2017 08:30 PM (HcgJZ)
596
Is it still OK to make fun of cripples and retards?
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (Sfs6o)
If you're referring to FDR then yes.
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (Sfs6o)
If you're referring to FDR then yes.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2017 08:30 PM (auHtY)
597
That was stupid. 2 bad penalties and the Preds have a 5 on 3 for 2 minutes. Dumb.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 31, 2017 08:30 PM (pY+s4)
598
Ace, you left out one aspect of the rise of SJW's - the contributions to their cause given by GOP, Inc. and the passivity of GOP politicians, especially US Senators. Until GOP Inc. is burned to the ground, nothing will change in the long run.
Posted by: Born Free at May 31, 2017 08:31 PM (PTsUx)
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 31, 2017 08:31 PM (pY+s4)
600
Bloomberg: '55 percent chance' Trump will win reelection
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at 08:30 PM
________
That's up quite a bit from a year ago.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at 08:30 PM
________
That's up quite a bit from a year ago.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 31, 2017 08:32 PM (zkGZ8)
601
565 Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 08:21 PM (sdi6R)
I think it actually was Tim in Illinois that gave him a timeout,
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 08:22 PM (IDPbH)
OK, so I get CharlieBrown's Dildo, OregonMuse, and Tim in Illinois confused with each other.
I'm just plain bad with names in general.
I think it actually was Tim in Illinois that gave him a timeout,
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 31, 2017 08:22 PM (IDPbH)
OK, so I get CharlieBrown's Dildo, OregonMuse, and Tim in Illinois confused with each other.
I'm just plain bad with names in general.
Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2017 08:33 PM (sdi6R)
602
Nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2017 08:33 PM (ZgkX8)
603
586 Not a problem ScoggDog. My bar tab is about $0.00
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 31, 2017 08:28 PM (d76uN)
Maybe so ... but I'm still in the wrong. I thought you banned CB. And I said so.
Your word to the contrary is good enough for me. And I apologize.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 31, 2017 08:28 PM (d76uN)
Maybe so ... but I'm still in the wrong. I thought you banned CB. And I said so.
Your word to the contrary is good enough for me. And I apologize.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 31, 2017 08:33 PM (fiGNd)
604
Damn, it's been a while since I've seen a good banning.
(Well, I'm gonna miss CB, so that would not have been "good")
(Well, I'm gonna miss CB, so that would not have been "good")
Posted by: logprof at May 31, 2017 08:33 PM (GsAUU)
605
Looks like Tanaka took tonight off
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2017 08:34 PM (SjImc)
606
I am an heir to the Enlightenment and a child of God. I bow to no-one.
And though I am no warrior, I will do what I must to see to it that all those of my kind who are enslaved by the twin Satanic creeds of Leftism and Islam--body, mind, soul--may be freed.
That is why I say we should fight.
And though I am no warrior, I will do what I must to see to it that all those of my kind who are enslaved by the twin Satanic creeds of Leftism and Islam--body, mind, soul--may be freed.
That is why I say we should fight.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 08:34 PM (66CWr)
Posted by: Shiggz at May 31, 2017 08:34 PM (X8Fea)
608
This may have been stated already, but it seems to be the same dynamic as seen with ISIS. They respect only strength; appeasing them does not work, and, at best, staves off the onslaught for only a short period of time.
Posted by: jimmy958 at May 31, 2017 08:35 PM (MGAsr)
609
Is it still OK to make fun of cripples and retards?
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (Sfs6o)
No.
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2017 08:26 PM (Sfs6o)
No.
Posted by: ALH at May 31, 2017 08:36 PM (JACOL)
610
Obama had an army of social scientists and machiavellians in admin. We have great warriors but no tacticians.
Posted by: Shiggz at May 31, 2017 08:37 PM (X8Fea)
611
Am I the only one that remembers when the LGBT crowd just wanted civil unions and to be left alone? They said of course we don't want marriage, just to be tolerated. I remember.
Tolerance, that word does not mean what you think it means.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (Ri/rl
By no means. When I met my (now) wife, the fruits were saying that they just wanted to queer off in peace, not interest in marriage or adoption.
Having spent many years in Berkeley, I knew the score, and I told her that that's all they say they want now, but later it will be marriage and adoption.
Sure enough. My predictions being borne out has moved her significantly rightward, until she's nearly as damned as I am, because I also taught her that the measure of a perspective (i.e., a model) is its ability to predict results. And my batting average has been pretty effing good.
And next up: mainstreaming pederasty. Harvey Milk has shown the way.
Of course, Dan White has shown the way too.
Tolerance, that word does not mean what you think it means.
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 31, 2017 08:18 PM (Ri/rl
By no means. When I met my (now) wife, the fruits were saying that they just wanted to queer off in peace, not interest in marriage or adoption.
Having spent many years in Berkeley, I knew the score, and I told her that that's all they say they want now, but later it will be marriage and adoption.
Sure enough. My predictions being borne out has moved her significantly rightward, until she's nearly as damned as I am, because I also taught her that the measure of a perspective (i.e., a model) is its ability to predict results. And my batting average has been pretty effing good.
And next up: mainstreaming pederasty. Harvey Milk has shown the way.
Of course, Dan White has shown the way too.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 31, 2017 08:38 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Lord Dewclaw at May 31, 2017 08:39 PM (B8uVo)
613
I doubt if anyone's still around to read this, but it doesn't really belong on the movie thread above:
http://tinyurl.com/y8wgqzrx
Seems that Texas Antifa is demanding that the statue of Sam Houston be taken down.
http://tinyurl.com/y8wgqzrx
Seems that Texas Antifa is demanding that the statue of Sam Houston be taken down.
Posted by: Monty James at May 31, 2017 08:40 PM (gKOMX)
Posted by: DaveA at May 31, 2017 08:41 PM (FhXTo)
615
That is why I say we should fight.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 08:34 PM (66CWr)
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Beautiful and succinct, Brother.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 31, 2017 08:34 PM (66CWr)
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Beautiful and succinct, Brother.
Posted by: George Santayana at May 31, 2017 08:42 PM (2mC6G)
616
Vanceone @ 595 said, "I suppose we can pass an ordinance now saying that all liberal
businesses cannot do business in our town, because political reasons we
disagree with them, right?"
For several years I have advocated "Anti-Blue Laws", pass laws intended to ensure Blue refugees from failing States like CA won't choose to settle in your lands. Even if you yourself do not particularly like them, pass them anyway if -they- will hate them so much they will pick a different destination. And yes, your idea is a good one. Forbid 'religious discrimination' for example and anyone who insists on redefining marriage and punishing anyone who refuses to accept the redefinition is a bigot, blammo, banned. Push to have your local schools teach the actual American civic belief system, teach how to recognize propaganda, etc. No way a Snowflake would want their precious crotchfruit exposed to that sort of thing so they go elsewhere. And so on.
We could push for a declaration (State Legislature in a Red State somewhere would be ideal for a start) that Cultural Marxism is a religion, thus the State Uni can't teach it, government money can't pay tuition, etc.
#WAR
businesses cannot do business in our town, because political reasons we
disagree with them, right?"
For several years I have advocated "Anti-Blue Laws", pass laws intended to ensure Blue refugees from failing States like CA won't choose to settle in your lands. Even if you yourself do not particularly like them, pass them anyway if -they- will hate them so much they will pick a different destination. And yes, your idea is a good one. Forbid 'religious discrimination' for example and anyone who insists on redefining marriage and punishing anyone who refuses to accept the redefinition is a bigot, blammo, banned. Push to have your local schools teach the actual American civic belief system, teach how to recognize propaganda, etc. No way a Snowflake would want their precious crotchfruit exposed to that sort of thing so they go elsewhere. And so on.
We could push for a declaration (State Legislature in a Red State somewhere would be ideal for a start) that Cultural Marxism is a religion, thus the State Uni can't teach it, government money can't pay tuition, etc.
#WAR
Posted by: John Morris at May 31, 2017 08:43 PM (sCRhB)
617
Rule 1) Never lose the Second Amendment.
Rule 2) NEVER lose the Second Amendment.
Rule 3) Without the Second Amendment, the rest of the Bill of Rights is garbage.
Seriously, these people fantasize about killing us.
You think Kathy Griffin was just having fun with that severed head. This is what all leftists would do to us if they could.
We came pretty damn close to getting a Supreme Court that would have ruled that the Second Amendment didn't apply to private citizens. Whatever else the Trump does or does not do, I'll never forget that he has saved the Supreme Court.
For now.
Rule 1) Never lose the Second Amendment.
Rule 2) NEVER lose the Second Amendment.
Rule 3) Without the Second Amendment, the rest of the Bill of Rights is garbage.
Seriously, these people fantasize about killing us.
You think Kathy Griffin was just having fun with that severed head. This is what all leftists would do to us if they could.
We came pretty damn close to getting a Supreme Court that would have ruled that the Second Amendment didn't apply to private citizens. Whatever else the Trump does or does not do, I'll never forget that he has saved the Supreme Court.
For now.
Posted by: rayj at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (pI/IV)
618
423
"We must love everyone or else" brigade.........
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If they don't love you as well that is called stalking.
"We must love everyone or else" brigade.........
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If they don't love you as well that is called stalking.
Posted by: Javems at May 31, 2017 08:45 PM (yOqwj)
619
"yup. seems to be a case of the psychological root often claimed to underlie all racism: For marginal people to feel superior, they must create a lower caste to feel superior to.Posted by: ace
I don't know the reference, but a quote I recall "what every slave really wants ... is his own slave"
That is probably not quite true, but perhaps true for those SJW types are not raised with old "traditional values". Marginal people that are "raised right" are very fine people. In many cases it is the poor most likely to provide help to others in bad situations. (I think that is from some old Russian novel ... ummm?)
I don't know the reference, but a quote I recall "what every slave really wants ... is his own slave"
That is probably not quite true, but perhaps true for those SJW types are not raised with old "traditional values". Marginal people that are "raised right" are very fine people. In many cases it is the poor most likely to provide help to others in bad situations. (I think that is from some old Russian novel ... ummm?)
Posted by: illiniwek at May 31, 2017 08:51 PM (4fQGS)
620
I happened to stumble on to a youtube clip of Mark Steyn talking to Hugh Hewitt. This was during the GOP primary with 17 candidates.
Just like any other election year. Democrat primary debates was where Dems distinguish themselves by talking about their favorite topics. And GOP primary debates where Republicans talk about democrat favorite topics. Almost every question was prefaces with a 30 or 60 second speech that tilted the field unfairly.
And even though 16 candidates were smart enough to reject the premises of garbage beltway questions, they did not. They watched Trump's numbers (and Cruz IIRC) go up every time, EVERY TIME, he fought with the press. But since they were more in the business of feathering their congressional campaigns, or selling a book, ect. than actually being president, they stuck to the gentleman rules.
Just like any other election year. Democrat primary debates was where Dems distinguish themselves by talking about their favorite topics. And GOP primary debates where Republicans talk about democrat favorite topics. Almost every question was prefaces with a 30 or 60 second speech that tilted the field unfairly.
And even though 16 candidates were smart enough to reject the premises of garbage beltway questions, they did not. They watched Trump's numbers (and Cruz IIRC) go up every time, EVERY TIME, he fought with the press. But since they were more in the business of feathering their congressional campaigns, or selling a book, ect. than actually being president, they stuck to the gentleman rules.
Posted by: Bourbonchicken at May 31, 2017 08:52 PM (VdICR)
621
"1984 v 1776 if you will.
Posted by: fox at May 31, 2017 07:30 PM (3s9iz) "
Very well put.
That's going on a t-shirt tomorrow !
Posted by: fox at May 31, 2017 07:30 PM (3s9iz) "
Very well put.
That's going on a t-shirt tomorrow !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at May 31, 2017 08:54 PM (yV8pG)
622
Progress has been made on Immigration. More to come.
_____________________
Another area where there is a caste system in this country, and we are on the bottom.
Tax laws, fraud laws, and many other types of laws that citizens must obey (and are punished if they don't), but illegal aliens get a free pass.
A Boston prosecutor cut a deal to give an armed bank robber less than a year in jail, because the robber is an illegal alien and if he received a sentence of more than a year, he might get deported. (After serving his less than one-year sentence, the illegal alien murdered two doctors).
The state's attorney in Maryland last week sent out a memo to local prosecutors in her state, telling them not to even prosecute illegal aliens for crimes, since it may result in their deportation.
This week in Queens, ICE officers who had come to pick up a Guyana illegal alien, currently facing burglary charges, were surrounded by other "residents" and had to call local cops for help defending themselves from the mob. The Guyana man had already been voluntarily deported years earlier, after having been arrested for a violent assault in Florida. He illegally re-entered the U.S. and committed yet another crime. All we hear in the media are sob stories about how Trumps is "breaking up immigrant families" and how he is deporting "good, law-abiding" people. It's bullshit. Most of these people, like this Guyana criminal, are repeat offenders -- and not just of immigration crimes, but of crimes like assault, rape, murder, burglary, etc. Can you imagine how law enforcement would have reacted if a bunch of white citizens had surrounded and menaced them when they were trying to detain a criminal suspect? But when it's illegal aliens doing this to protect other illegal alien criminals, it's totally fine, and "we can understand your frustration" as the ICE official said soothingly to the mob.
Victor Hansen has been writing for years about how citizens in California have to jump through all sorts of regulatory hoops and a mountain of paperwork to get anything done that might impact the environment. Meanwhile, when the locals illegal aliens want to dispose of their beat-up old refrigerator, they just load in onto the back of their beat-up, unregistered old truck, and dump it in a local pond, and nobody says boo.
So sick of this shit. This is how you get Trump. And if this shit does not stop, this is how you're going to get even worse than Trump next time.
_____________________
Another area where there is a caste system in this country, and we are on the bottom.
Tax laws, fraud laws, and many other types of laws that citizens must obey (and are punished if they don't), but illegal aliens get a free pass.
A Boston prosecutor cut a deal to give an armed bank robber less than a year in jail, because the robber is an illegal alien and if he received a sentence of more than a year, he might get deported. (After serving his less than one-year sentence, the illegal alien murdered two doctors).
The state's attorney in Maryland last week sent out a memo to local prosecutors in her state, telling them not to even prosecute illegal aliens for crimes, since it may result in their deportation.
This week in Queens, ICE officers who had come to pick up a Guyana illegal alien, currently facing burglary charges, were surrounded by other "residents" and had to call local cops for help defending themselves from the mob. The Guyana man had already been voluntarily deported years earlier, after having been arrested for a violent assault in Florida. He illegally re-entered the U.S. and committed yet another crime. All we hear in the media are sob stories about how Trumps is "breaking up immigrant families" and how he is deporting "good, law-abiding" people. It's bullshit. Most of these people, like this Guyana criminal, are repeat offenders -- and not just of immigration crimes, but of crimes like assault, rape, murder, burglary, etc. Can you imagine how law enforcement would have reacted if a bunch of white citizens had surrounded and menaced them when they were trying to detain a criminal suspect? But when it's illegal aliens doing this to protect other illegal alien criminals, it's totally fine, and "we can understand your frustration" as the ICE official said soothingly to the mob.
Victor Hansen has been writing for years about how citizens in California have to jump through all sorts of regulatory hoops and a mountain of paperwork to get anything done that might impact the environment. Meanwhile, when the locals illegal aliens want to dispose of their beat-up old refrigerator, they just load in onto the back of their beat-up, unregistered old truck, and dump it in a local pond, and nobody says boo.
So sick of this shit. This is how you get Trump. And if this shit does not stop, this is how you're going to get even worse than Trump next time.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 31, 2017 08:55 PM (riF5p)
623
Excellent rant Ace. I think this is the longest one yet, ever, at least since 2006.
Your point:
"Many on the right, or even liberals who lean to the left but who still hold to classic liberal traditions, have called, endlessly, for an end to the Speech Wars.
That failed.
We've been trying this for years. Two or three years in my own case.
...
This is not working."
is clearly correct, but you provide the solution.
The recent Battle of Berkeley aside (mostly 20-35 y.o.s, and a loss for the Left), most people can't afford to be activists in the model of the Left; it interferes with Being Employed ... and it increases the likelihood of mistakes, own-goals and Career-Ending-Actions (Kathy Griffin ... heh)
Continuous resistance IS necessary, but point-by-point resistance is a waste of time. It takes a lot of time and energy and, more importantly, causes a loss of focus among the audience. The LIVs, marginally- and non-political types, simply can't afford the brain fatigue of paying attention.
But, again, you provide the solution. Kathy Griffin's Trump performance art (titled "Actress Drives Her Career Into a Bridge Support") and The Evergreen Community College Tantrum video highlights it:
Embarrassed by their own repulsive behavior, the Privileged Mob is now demanding -- demanding! again, like emotionally unstable toddlers -- that this video be taken down and that consequences be visited on whoever "stole" it.
The ECC Tantrum looks exactly like Mao's Red Guards in 1967 during the Cultural Revolution ... only this time, they've crossed a line. Forcing the ECC president to kneel in supplication, and attacking this professor; there is no longer a line separating the professor they attacked and their Maoist Womyn's Studies SJW professors, and the Maoist Womyn's Studies SJW professors know it.
Something must be done. Average people, many who are JFK-Hubert-Humphrey-"Scoop"-Jackson (remember him?) Democrats, or who simply vote for the incumbent (or the guy they remember from ads), are "waking up", and this meaning of "woke" cannot be allowed. Besides, Maoists academics want to issue diktats and demand results, not pick cabbages and subsist on bread crusts and cabbage broth.
The Battle of Berkeley (again, mostly 20-35 y.o.s, and a loss for the Left), the subsequent internet tracking and public exposure of the USF(?) bicycle-lock-wielding staffer and a few other "activists", the Internet Popping of the Shia Lebeouf Pimple, suggests rather strongly that a lot of 20-somethings, when shown the Left's actions on video, start acting against the Left ... and never go back
Mass media circulation of videos, KG's performance art, identities of Leftist activists, and other exposure are the solution. Wage the Information/Culture/Whatever War on the internet, in front of hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of viewers.
It's easy and not time-consuming ... and a bit anonymous. If someone doxxes you ... you might have standing, and standing with the ACLU. Make the ACLU live up to ITS rules (and spend its money).
Download each video, "for later"; exchange it with friends; make it reappear (make the Left play whack-a-mole), and with e-mail notification to others, to get views.
Get other to watch ... this is the Internet version of "Hey hey, ho ho, ..." Never let up.
Excellent rant Ace. I think this is the longest one yet, ever, at least since 2006.
Your point:
"Many on the right, or even liberals who lean to the left but who still hold to classic liberal traditions, have called, endlessly, for an end to the Speech Wars.
That failed.
We've been trying this for years. Two or three years in my own case.
...
This is not working."
is clearly correct, but you provide the solution.
The recent Battle of Berkeley aside (mostly 20-35 y.o.s, and a loss for the Left), most people can't afford to be activists in the model of the Left; it interferes with Being Employed ... and it increases the likelihood of mistakes, own-goals and Career-Ending-Actions (Kathy Griffin ... heh)
Continuous resistance IS necessary, but point-by-point resistance is a waste of time. It takes a lot of time and energy and, more importantly, causes a loss of focus among the audience. The LIVs, marginally- and non-political types, simply can't afford the brain fatigue of paying attention.
But, again, you provide the solution. Kathy Griffin's Trump performance art (titled "Actress Drives Her Career Into a Bridge Support") and The Evergreen Community College Tantrum video highlights it:
Embarrassed by their own repulsive behavior, the Privileged Mob is now demanding -- demanding! again, like emotionally unstable toddlers -- that this video be taken down and that consequences be visited on whoever "stole" it.
The ECC Tantrum looks exactly like Mao's Red Guards in 1967 during the Cultural Revolution ... only this time, they've crossed a line. Forcing the ECC president to kneel in supplication, and attacking this professor; there is no longer a line separating the professor they attacked and their Maoist Womyn's Studies SJW professors, and the Maoist Womyn's Studies SJW professors know it.
Something must be done. Average people, many who are JFK-Hubert-Humphrey-"Scoop"-Jackson (remember him?) Democrats, or who simply vote for the incumbent (or the guy they remember from ads), are "waking up", and this meaning of "woke" cannot be allowed. Besides, Maoists academics want to issue diktats and demand results, not pick cabbages and subsist on bread crusts and cabbage broth.
The Battle of Berkeley (again, mostly 20-35 y.o.s, and a loss for the Left), the subsequent internet tracking and public exposure of the USF(?) bicycle-lock-wielding staffer and a few other "activists", the Internet Popping of the Shia Lebeouf Pimple, suggests rather strongly that a lot of 20-somethings, when shown the Left's actions on video, start acting against the Left ... and never go back
Mass media circulation of videos, KG's performance art, identities of Leftist activists, and other exposure are the solution. Wage the Information/Culture/Whatever War on the internet, in front of hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of viewers.
It's easy and not time-consuming ... and a bit anonymous. If someone doxxes you ... you might have standing, and standing with the ACLU. Make the ACLU live up to ITS rules (and spend its money).
Download each video, "for later"; exchange it with friends; make it reappear (make the Left play whack-a-mole), and with e-mail notification to others, to get views.
Get other to watch ... this is the Internet version of "Hey hey, ho ho, ..." Never let up.
Posted by: Arbalest at May 31, 2017 08:58 PM (FlRtG)
624
Great piece--but it's interesting, and ominous, that Ace could just as easily have been talking about Islam as the radical Left.
Posted by: phineas gage at May 31, 2017 09:04 PM (ul4jy)
625
Sadly, I must agree. So who is the best candidate for the next scalp the right needs to pursue?
Posted by: Jill v2 at May 31, 2017 09:12 PM (CUNqO)
626
And this is why I say that we need to stop surrendering parts of the country to these people, even in jest. Can you imagine what it would be like to have the East and West coasts controlled by Lefties that seceded? Gee, you could sure sleep good at night, with the possibility of a two front war.
There are good folks in California. We can't abandon them. It's far more important to take back the courts than the universities and we need to clean house on the judges all the way down to the local level.
There are good folks in California. We can't abandon them. It's far more important to take back the courts than the universities and we need to clean house on the judges all the way down to the local level.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 31, 2017 09:16 PM (JKNZq)
627
Trivial Pursuer @ 622- refrigerators in pond--
Agreed! I am sick and tired of diapers in parking lots, tires by the road, mattresses in the damn creek. Take that crap back to the shitholes you came from.
Agreed! I am sick and tired of diapers in parking lots, tires by the road, mattresses in the damn creek. Take that crap back to the shitholes you came from.
Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2017 09:17 PM (zLDYs)
628
Instapundit linked to this latest burst of poetry from the pen of Ace. 240 comments so far - and that's a lot for Insta-world.
Posted by: George Tirebiter at May 31, 2017 09:19 PM (/zyrl)
629
Kathy Griffin looks like nothing so much as she looks like "Baby Jane" from the movie of the same name, starring Bette Davis.
Posted by: True the Note at May 31, 2017 09:22 PM (SJ184)
630
Thanks, Ace. I appreciate every word of this post.
Posted by: Jaws at May 31, 2017 09:33 PM (V4FnY)
631
1. Accept that this is a war and we are losing.
2. Accept that institutional left views us like we view ISIS.
3. Accept that killing our way out of this won't succeed or won't succeeds for long.
4. Must curate and spread a positive unique culture that intertwines liberty as life purpose and liberty inspired entertainment.
2. Accept that institutional left views us like we view ISIS.
3. Accept that killing our way out of this won't succeed or won't succeeds for long.
4. Must curate and spread a positive unique culture that intertwines liberty as life purpose and liberty inspired entertainment.
Posted by: Shiggz at May 31, 2017 09:40 PM (X8Fea)
632
Accept that you and the children you care about are now second class citizens.
Posted by: Shiggz at May 31, 2017 09:42 PM (X8Fea)
633
Tit for tat is the only thing they understand. Break a few noses and they'll quiet right down.
Posted by: Scars at May 31, 2017 09:47 PM (jiQvT)
634
That is why Trump was so, so necessary. We needed someone to just say screw you and screw the genteel republicans who play like SJW's themselves and stay out of their crosshairs. While the rest of the country get pummelled by the little darlings.
That is why Alamo theater should be sued for sexual discrimination for WW. The left should be sued every single time they do anything, every.single.time.
That is why Alamo theater should be sued for sexual discrimination for WW. The left should be sued every single time they do anything, every.single.time.
Posted by: dude1394 at May 31, 2017 09:52 PM (b91ZC)
Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at May 31, 2017 09:53 PM (PFy0L)
636
Just keep delegitimizing them with your own spunky brand of humor, Ace. They want someone to take them seriously. The internet and their safe space media platforms allow them to have a little charade where they can imagine that their poorly conceived ideas will result in some kind of actual gratification. It's like the professor behind the curtain. Rip it off, Dorothy!
Posted by: H at May 31, 2017 09:54 PM (b4rXB)
637
So, Trump hasn't fixed everything yet? I thought you guys won the last election. Sounds like Ace is inciting violence here, the tactic of a loser.
Gee, I'd hate to see how he behaves when he loses. He probably upends the whole Risk board. Ukraine is weak!
Gee, I'd hate to see how he behaves when he loses. He probably upends the whole Risk board. Ukraine is weak!
Posted by: JohnnyTrumpalo at May 31, 2017 09:54 PM (JNMri)
638
That was so many words to say "Hey, Jukin you were right in December 2012."
But I will accept it.
But I will accept it.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 31, 2017 10:05 PM (npdX6)
639
ace said; It is imperative we begin emulating the left in its tactics
So is Johnny come late admitting the left is inciting violence?
well we then agree.
So is Johnny come late admitting the left is inciting violence?
well we then agree.
Posted by: willow at May 31, 2017 10:08 PM (iS1Cb)
640
Don't forget the pathway to college is (typically) through public schools. To me, the current situation on college campuses across the land owes much to what is taking place in grade schools in this country.
Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 31, 2017 10:21 PM (gzDHL)
641
Thank GOD Hillary is not President.
Posted by: X at May 31, 2017 10:23 PM (WiPBb)
642
You know there in lies the tale to those who say War is not the answer, you don't always get to choose .
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:31 PM (Ot7+c)
Every time I see that "War Is Not the Answer" bumper sticker I want to whip out a marker and write across the bumper: "It Depends on the Question."
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2017 06:31 PM (Ot7+c)
Every time I see that "War Is Not the Answer" bumper sticker I want to whip out a marker and write across the bumper: "It Depends on the Question."
Posted by: JAL at May 31, 2017 10:27 PM (3W1JV)
643
Welcome to Alt-Right.
It's a large tent- so I'm sure that you'll find a table to drink at.
Watch out for those tattooed fellas by the 4x4. They kinda started this party but lost control now that they don't pay for the beer. Good to know that they are around when there is a scrap, though.
It's a large tent- so I'm sure that you'll find a table to drink at.
Watch out for those tattooed fellas by the 4x4. They kinda started this party but lost control now that they don't pay for the beer. Good to know that they are around when there is a scrap, though.
Posted by: Cluebat at May 31, 2017 10:36 PM (9WTDY)
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Great post. Deserves a Bruce Willis 'Welcome to the party, pal!' though. Anyone who's ever only survived a bully by fighting back knew this from the get go.
They will not stop. Ever. Until they are made to stop. You only win a war by convincing your enemy that it's in their own best interest to stop now, or suffer the consequences. That has yet to happen with these fuck sticks. They are spoiled kids whom no one dare discipline. Because black power or boycot or you'll get fired. But someone is going to have to be the man who finally stands up when all are told to sit down.
These people are literally, not figuratively but literally ruining this country each day this is allowed to continue. And because these losers crave both attention and acceptance in the pack, their numbers grow by the minute.
They will not stop. Ever. Until they are made to stop. You only win a war by convincing your enemy that it's in their own best interest to stop now, or suffer the consequences. That has yet to happen with these fuck sticks. They are spoiled kids whom no one dare discipline. Because black power or boycot or you'll get fired. But someone is going to have to be the man who finally stands up when all are told to sit down.
These people are literally, not figuratively but literally ruining this country each day this is allowed to continue. And because these losers crave both attention and acceptance in the pack, their numbers grow by the minute.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2017 10:39 PM (pUDQf)
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"Good to know that they are around when there is a scrap, though."
Well..... we all know that at some point this situation is going to deteriorate to a point where we will need stormtroopers so it is kinda nice to know we have the real deal handy. Oh, you mean those guys.... oops not so much.
I'd trust the ex-army guys on the Right if things go shooty and splody a lot more than the average larper hanging out at StormFront. And no, most of the Alt-Right, even the other 'racist' types, don't put a lot of faith in the reliability of the Stormers in a SHTF situation.
Well..... we all know that at some point this situation is going to deteriorate to a point where we will need stormtroopers so it is kinda nice to know we have the real deal handy. Oh, you mean those guys.... oops not so much.
I'd trust the ex-army guys on the Right if things go shooty and splody a lot more than the average larper hanging out at StormFront. And no, most of the Alt-Right, even the other 'racist' types, don't put a lot of faith in the reliability of the Stormers in a SHTF situation.
Posted by: John Morris at May 31, 2017 10:41 PM (sCRhB)
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"Don't forget the pathway to college is (typically) through public schools. To me, the current situation on college campuses across the land owes much to what is taking place in grade schools in this country."
It owes even more to what we have been immersed in for seventy years ... the assumptions, mores, and social contract of the Blue Social Model, that have even seeped deeply into the thinking of many conservatives.
Sen. Ben Sasse just released a book about "the vanishing American adult" ... well, our Best and Brightest have been diligently working to make them disappear for seventy years ... by turning them into loyal subjects dependent upon the "experts" and "leaders" who are the lords in this high-tech serfdom we more and more appear to live in.
And they are not just wannabe lords ... they are fundamentalist busybodies, the type C. S. Lewis warned us about ... trying to impose their One and Only True Way with a zeal that makes fire-and-brimstone Baptists look like loose-topped libertines out for beads at Mardi Gras.
ABSOLUTELY we need to aggressively challenge every significant assault they make upon our liberty ... and while we're at it, let's work to understand our own conservative worldview enough, that we can get in their faces while standing on a sound foundation of common-sense truth that we can actually articulate.
Returning tit-for-tat is a good start, but let us bring more than just name-calling to the fight ... let's bring a full load of potent ammunition, so we can move from stalemate to victory.
It owes even more to what we have been immersed in for seventy years ... the assumptions, mores, and social contract of the Blue Social Model, that have even seeped deeply into the thinking of many conservatives.
Sen. Ben Sasse just released a book about "the vanishing American adult" ... well, our Best and Brightest have been diligently working to make them disappear for seventy years ... by turning them into loyal subjects dependent upon the "experts" and "leaders" who are the lords in this high-tech serfdom we more and more appear to live in.
And they are not just wannabe lords ... they are fundamentalist busybodies, the type C. S. Lewis warned us about ... trying to impose their One and Only True Way with a zeal that makes fire-and-brimstone Baptists look like loose-topped libertines out for beads at Mardi Gras.
ABSOLUTELY we need to aggressively challenge every significant assault they make upon our liberty ... and while we're at it, let's work to understand our own conservative worldview enough, that we can get in their faces while standing on a sound foundation of common-sense truth that we can actually articulate.
Returning tit-for-tat is a good start, but let us bring more than just name-calling to the fight ... let's bring a full load of potent ammunition, so we can move from stalemate to victory.
Posted by: Ritchie The Riveter at May 31, 2017 10:50 PM (Lv8+F)
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Ken Jennings has an 11 year old daughter. How can he be so heartless about Barron Trump's reaction to seeing what he thought was his dead father on tv? Never mind, I know the answer. Maybe something will happen someday to break him out of his hate bubble so he can feel other people's pain.
Posted by: OCBill at May 31, 2017 11:06 PM (oDxFZ)
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OTOH, if he made it this far, I think this is who he is and how he will stay.
Posted by: OCBill at May 31, 2017 11:08 PM (oDxFZ)
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I know I'm super late and I know it has to annoy Ace to hear this all the time, but this is brilliant. It's like you took the haphazard thoughts jumping around in my mind and beamed them to the screen.
Thanks, as always, for helping fight the fight.
Thanks, as always, for helping fight the fight.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at May 31, 2017 11:28 PM (KCgrJ)
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Social Justice ORCS.
Posted by: Mike at May 31, 2017 11:37 PM (9XbvX)
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I would argue that it is not enough to simply use the same tactics as the Left. If we truly want this nonsense to end, we have to go "Ender's Game" on them.
For those who saw the movie, you know that Ender dealt with his bullies by not just standing up to the bully and beating him, but by beating him up so badly, that the bully never wanted to fight him again.
He fought the fight not with the purpose of just winning the fight of the moment, but to prevent all future fights. Similar to the movie "The Last Samarai" where Tom Cruise explains to Katsumoto regarding the Battle of Thermopylae: "In two days the Greeks made them pay so dearly, the Persians lost all taste for battle. And were defeated soon after."
In addition, not only did Ender utterly destroy his bully in the one-on-one fight, he did it in such a brutal manner and in front of all the bully's friends, as a warning to them that this would happen to them if they tried anything. Similar to the wall of dead bodies the Spartans built in the movie 300 or the pile of Uruk-hai burned and heads on stakes in Lord of the Rings.
This is what conservatives have to do regarding this era of SJW, White-hating, femiNAZI, enviroNAZI despicable culture in which we find ourselves.
We cannot just hit back. We have to hit back and keep hitting them until they are begging for mercy and have lost all taste for battle.
The good news is that bullies usually crumble when confronted. And that's what SJWs and all the rest of these idiots are... bullies. They pick only on people or groups they know are 'soft' targets. You didn't see the LGBTs go after Black churches who were against "gay marriage", they attacked Christians and Mormons. You didn't see LGBTs go after Muslim bakeries or pizza places, they went after Christian businesses. You don't see liberals attack Islam or Muslims for issues regarding LGBTs or misogyny, they only go after Whites and Christians.
So, my hope here is that a big part of stopping this SJW culture is simply conservatives choosing to finally stand up to them.
For those who saw the movie, you know that Ender dealt with his bullies by not just standing up to the bully and beating him, but by beating him up so badly, that the bully never wanted to fight him again.
He fought the fight not with the purpose of just winning the fight of the moment, but to prevent all future fights. Similar to the movie "The Last Samarai" where Tom Cruise explains to Katsumoto regarding the Battle of Thermopylae: "In two days the Greeks made them pay so dearly, the Persians lost all taste for battle. And were defeated soon after."
In addition, not only did Ender utterly destroy his bully in the one-on-one fight, he did it in such a brutal manner and in front of all the bully's friends, as a warning to them that this would happen to them if they tried anything. Similar to the wall of dead bodies the Spartans built in the movie 300 or the pile of Uruk-hai burned and heads on stakes in Lord of the Rings.
This is what conservatives have to do regarding this era of SJW, White-hating, femiNAZI, enviroNAZI despicable culture in which we find ourselves.
We cannot just hit back. We have to hit back and keep hitting them until they are begging for mercy and have lost all taste for battle.
The good news is that bullies usually crumble when confronted. And that's what SJWs and all the rest of these idiots are... bullies. They pick only on people or groups they know are 'soft' targets. You didn't see the LGBTs go after Black churches who were against "gay marriage", they attacked Christians and Mormons. You didn't see LGBTs go after Muslim bakeries or pizza places, they went after Christian businesses. You don't see liberals attack Islam or Muslims for issues regarding LGBTs or misogyny, they only go after Whites and Christians.
So, my hope here is that a big part of stopping this SJW culture is simply conservatives choosing to finally stand up to them.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 31, 2017 11:46 PM (7A4qQ)
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I stopped trying to be either polite or persuasive to Democrat a few months ago. The sudden verbal and actual violence that erupted like pus from a squeezed zit shocked unshockable me. I had been thinking and saying these Democrats are exactly this bad, I hadn't grokked it viscerally.
I've been listening much more than talking this year, and I have a couple of preliminary hypotheses.
First, ridicule is the most potent weapon before violence. The Democrats believe that, and it appears they are right. Successfully ridiculing their ridicule is Yuge. Previous commenters on this thread have already co-opted "covfefe." Brilliant.
Second, elementary schools. PTSAs and school boards are the training wheels of politics.
Many conservatives, if not most, do not know that the teacher colleges were long ago conquered by the Left, and that the nice 3rd grade teacher is pounding politically correct pitons into the brains of your child.
It can be embarrassing and risky to your position in your neighborhood to fight back, but this is where you can start if you have children, or where you can help if you can recruit people in your neighborhood who have children.
You have to pick your first battle based on your neighbors, but there are always plenty of battles, thanks to the Left, that even Democrat parents care about. Is your school district spending 60% of its budget on the 5% of special needs kids and ignoring smart kids (many are, to the neglect of programs high-functioning parents want)? Bathroom wars can be a good wedge issue in many places. Is your school board fighting charter schools?
If you get involved, you'll find pain points and leadership opportunities.
Finally, where is our GoFundMe? We can't compete with the Democrats when it comes to political organizing because we abhor their demogogic rabble-organizing methods. But we do have one advantage: entrepreneurial spirit and understanding the division of labor.
We need to activate and support entrepreneurs who will "community organize" on our behalf while we do our jobs. I'm thinking about scholarships and stipends based on fighting the Left at universities, with big resources backing our young warriors on campus.
If we crowdfund, we can outspend Soros. The awesome thing about entrepreneurship is that new ideas flourish and multiply. We must be willing to pay our people who are good at this stuff to make a very good living doing the things we think about but don't have time to do.
I've been listening much more than talking this year, and I have a couple of preliminary hypotheses.
First, ridicule is the most potent weapon before violence. The Democrats believe that, and it appears they are right. Successfully ridiculing their ridicule is Yuge. Previous commenters on this thread have already co-opted "covfefe." Brilliant.
Second, elementary schools. PTSAs and school boards are the training wheels of politics.
Many conservatives, if not most, do not know that the teacher colleges were long ago conquered by the Left, and that the nice 3rd grade teacher is pounding politically correct pitons into the brains of your child.
It can be embarrassing and risky to your position in your neighborhood to fight back, but this is where you can start if you have children, or where you can help if you can recruit people in your neighborhood who have children.
You have to pick your first battle based on your neighbors, but there are always plenty of battles, thanks to the Left, that even Democrat parents care about. Is your school district spending 60% of its budget on the 5% of special needs kids and ignoring smart kids (many are, to the neglect of programs high-functioning parents want)? Bathroom wars can be a good wedge issue in many places. Is your school board fighting charter schools?
If you get involved, you'll find pain points and leadership opportunities.
Finally, where is our GoFundMe? We can't compete with the Democrats when it comes to political organizing because we abhor their demogogic rabble-organizing methods. But we do have one advantage: entrepreneurial spirit and understanding the division of labor.
We need to activate and support entrepreneurs who will "community organize" on our behalf while we do our jobs. I'm thinking about scholarships and stipends based on fighting the Left at universities, with big resources backing our young warriors on campus.
If we crowdfund, we can outspend Soros. The awesome thing about entrepreneurship is that new ideas flourish and multiply. We must be willing to pay our people who are good at this stuff to make a very good living doing the things we think about but don't have time to do.
Posted by: Comment Monster at June 01, 2017 12:32 AM (HXsXt)
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Ironically, much of this applies to another war we are being forced into, in which we are saying "if we just be nice, show we mean them no harm, then they will be nice back". Then, KABOOOM! GUTS LEGS EYEBALLS BLOOD...... flowers candles John Lennon song etc.......
Posted by: Me me hey, it's me! at June 01, 2017 12:57 AM (ZhwLl)
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One line of attack would be to start collecting the full names of SJWs, such as those in that Evergreen video. Start a website listing all these people, with their full names, school name, courses of study/degree sought, graduation year, and a synopsis of what they did, SJW-wise (i.e., "Led a takeover of the Dean's office; called him a %^ and a ($@%^.") Include links to any videos.
Perhaps reach out to the local college Republicans to gather such info. They're on-site, and might be able to pull the info together, based on school news sources, etc.
Also, anyone else involved in such activities as Gamergate, as well as Antifa and OWS types.
The goal is to provide job hirers with a tool that identifies potential troublemakers. HR personnel are now searching websites and social media for more info on those seeking jobs with their organization. So, give them a clear-cut tool that lists these idiots. Make their background searches easier.
One of the consequences of being such a jerk ought to be the knowledge that they are on, or may go on, a blacklist. Only, don't explicitly label it a blacklist (might be legal issues.) Simply identify it as a collection of known activists, SJWs, and Antifa types culled from open sources.
Anyway, just one possible line of attack.
Perhaps reach out to the local college Republicans to gather such info. They're on-site, and might be able to pull the info together, based on school news sources, etc.
Also, anyone else involved in such activities as Gamergate, as well as Antifa and OWS types.
The goal is to provide job hirers with a tool that identifies potential troublemakers. HR personnel are now searching websites and social media for more info on those seeking jobs with their organization. So, give them a clear-cut tool that lists these idiots. Make their background searches easier.
One of the consequences of being such a jerk ought to be the knowledge that they are on, or may go on, a blacklist. Only, don't explicitly label it a blacklist (might be legal issues.) Simply identify it as a collection of known activists, SJWs, and Antifa types culled from open sources.
Anyway, just one possible line of attack.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 01, 2017 01:07 AM (v5uOx)
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About that idea of the PTA being important, yup and so is the school board. Yes teachers are now all taught Cultural Marxism but some believe it more than others. Make sure your school is hiring the ones who didn't buy it as hard and letting the diehard Comrades be some other school system's curse.
One way would be to agitate for explicitly American ideas to be taught. Actual critical thinking and debate (not Critical Theory) and most important a requirement for the modern age, a requirement they be taught an unit on propaganda; now to recognize it (make em watch a MSM newscast and break it down, for example) and how to use it. Once you make someone a propagandist in their own right they are probably immune to it. Force the school to actually make the kids read the U.S. Constitution and then debate whether it actually says anything about various hot button issues. Teach them about the actual history of Socialism / Communism and the body count. Teach what Capitalism actually is, not the strawman parody the Left fights.
The great side benefit is, as I said, no hard left teacher would be caught dead in such a "reactionary" school system or a town that would allow such a thing to exist. Win - Win.
One way would be to agitate for explicitly American ideas to be taught. Actual critical thinking and debate (not Critical Theory) and most important a requirement for the modern age, a requirement they be taught an unit on propaganda; now to recognize it (make em watch a MSM newscast and break it down, for example) and how to use it. Once you make someone a propagandist in their own right they are probably immune to it. Force the school to actually make the kids read the U.S. Constitution and then debate whether it actually says anything about various hot button issues. Teach them about the actual history of Socialism / Communism and the body count. Teach what Capitalism actually is, not the strawman parody the Left fights.
The great side benefit is, as I said, no hard left teacher would be caught dead in such a "reactionary" school system or a town that would allow such a thing to exist. Win - Win.
Posted by: John Morris at June 01, 2017 01:14 AM (sCRhB)
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Anonymous, your idea of taking names is not new. You are looking for <a href="http://www.sjwlist.com/Main_Page">The Complete List of SJWs</a>... if this link actually posts correctly. It it isn't a link, google the text and it will get you there.
Posted by: John Morris at June 01, 2017 01:17 AM (sCRhB)
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The high road is only useful for raining Death down upon your enemies.
Posted by: rayra at June 01, 2017 02:46 AM (Pgsaa)
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"It is imperative we begin emulating the left in its tactics."
Well... you aren't wrong. You're a little late. But it's true.
A sojourn as an agnostic left-libertarian left me with an intimate knowledge of their tactics. And they're effective. Super easy, by design.
You just have to believe in your cause and be determined to *win*.
Which is why a Crusader-style Christian revival is most likely necessary, and should be rooted for even by those that would never participate.
Well... you aren't wrong. You're a little late. But it's true.
A sojourn as an agnostic left-libertarian left me with an intimate knowledge of their tactics. And they're effective. Super easy, by design.
You just have to believe in your cause and be determined to *win*.
Which is why a Crusader-style Christian revival is most likely necessary, and should be rooted for even by those that would never participate.
Posted by: SciVo at June 01, 2017 03:45 AM (ugFUf)
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Gandhis tactics didnt work against the British empire either. Heck he actively recruited Indians to fight FOR the British in both the world wars. Indeed the British were pleased to have Gandhi around as a useful idiot. It was Hitler that bankrupted the empire and Subhash Chandra Bose who planted to seeds of rebellion in the British Indian army so the UK's hold on India was at best tenuous by the end of 1950. Everything else is commentary.
Posted by: Dr Van Nostrand at June 01, 2017 04:42 AM (fgacn)
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I agree, follow the #ObamaDicta, punch back twice as hard.
Posted by: Rich Vail at June 01, 2017 04:55 AM (6lkQH)
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The civil war has already been enjoined. Legalized weed. Sanctuary cities. Nobody left or right respects federal authority.
Posted by: Comment Monster at June 01, 2017 05:25 AM (HXsXt)
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Welcome to the party, pal.
Posted by: Chester White at June 01, 2017 06:05 AM (F0r/b)
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Ace,
Would you please do a follow-up post on how this translates into action? Knowing specifically how to combat the SJW's would be hugely helpful. Knowing what actions to take would be great too.
Would you please do a follow-up post on how this translates into action? Knowing specifically how to combat the SJW's would be hugely helpful. Knowing what actions to take would be great too.
Posted by: TXBrass at June 01, 2017 07:00 AM (gfJC6)
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I wholeheartedly agree with everyone, with one small caveat. Ace says "Only when they start seeing themselves blacklisted for employment will
these morally senseless people learn that blacklisting is bad." I don't think most of the SJWs are able to learn that lesson. They think their actions are justified and ours are evil. They completely miss the irony. But at this point, I don't care. If it stops them, it's worth it, whether they learn the important lesson or not.
Someone put it perfectly recently: Most Social Justice isn't about justice (or peace). It's about revenge. If more people saw it this way, which I believe to be accurate, they wouldn't be guilted into the fascism that's being forced on us - in the name of "tolerance, diversity and inclusivity."
Yeah, I feel really tolerated and included.
these morally senseless people learn that blacklisting is bad." I don't think most of the SJWs are able to learn that lesson. They think their actions are justified and ours are evil. They completely miss the irony. But at this point, I don't care. If it stops them, it's worth it, whether they learn the important lesson or not.
Someone put it perfectly recently: Most Social Justice isn't about justice (or peace). It's about revenge. If more people saw it this way, which I believe to be accurate, they wouldn't be guilted into the fascism that's being forced on us - in the name of "tolerance, diversity and inclusivity."
Yeah, I feel really tolerated and included.
Posted by: Khiri at June 01, 2017 07:23 AM (vTp2Z)
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Oops, everything, not everyone.
Posted by: Khiri at June 01, 2017 07:24 AM (vTp2Z)
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Anyone who advertises SJW credentials on their resume does not get an interview. One small contribution.
Posted by: Xnycpeasant at June 01, 2017 07:44 AM (+4zIB)
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Well, Jesus, this has been obvious for years.
Posted by: Rhino at June 01, 2017 08:07 AM (ag+fg)
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Ace,
I'm probably still banned due to a childish rampage on your part, but I'd like to say - congratulations on waking up!
I've been saying this for years.
Just like I was for Trump before you jumped on the bandwagon (and I remember you being viciously anti-trump), and degrading pro-trump people, you used to degrade people who argued for using the left's nasty tactics against them, but as with Trump, you have come around.
Indeed, if I recall correctly, you made a comment during your never-trump phase that implied Trump was like a nazi. I called you out on it and was threatened with a banning.
But, as you slowly came around to my point of view on Trump, you are likewise coming around to my point of view on tactics. Amazing growth on your part.
I'm probably still banned due to a childish rampage on your part, but I'd like to say - congratulations on waking up!
I've been saying this for years.
Just like I was for Trump before you jumped on the bandwagon (and I remember you being viciously anti-trump), and degrading pro-trump people, you used to degrade people who argued for using the left's nasty tactics against them, but as with Trump, you have come around.
Indeed, if I recall correctly, you made a comment during your never-trump phase that implied Trump was like a nazi. I called you out on it and was threatened with a banning.
But, as you slowly came around to my point of view on Trump, you are likewise coming around to my point of view on tactics. Amazing growth on your part.
Posted by: monkeytoe at June 01, 2017 08:09 AM (3ZtZW)
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I guess that Mencken quote at the top of your page is just an embroidery, and didn't really mean anything to you.
Posted by: modsquad at June 01, 2017 08:22 AM (z07EX)
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Ace, the anger that you are feeling has been suppressed for years and it is good to finally let it go. We do not need to continue taking hits without offering resistance.
For my part, I try to raise awareness by ridiculing the fascist tactics of the new left and highlighting their hypocrisy on open forums. But I am ready to do more. There are a few bastions of intolerance in my region and I will be looking for opportunities to confront the nihilistas on their home turf.
I signed up for notifications over at safestreetsproject.org and will be showing up with placards and a GoPro.
Batting helmet not required- but is recommended, due to the past tactics displayed by these dishonorable zealots.
Still waiting for things to heat up, and hoping you will be covering them fairly and vociferously.
For my part, I try to raise awareness by ridiculing the fascist tactics of the new left and highlighting their hypocrisy on open forums. But I am ready to do more. There are a few bastions of intolerance in my region and I will be looking for opportunities to confront the nihilistas on their home turf.
I signed up for notifications over at safestreetsproject.org and will be showing up with placards and a GoPro.
Batting helmet not required- but is recommended, due to the past tactics displayed by these dishonorable zealots.
Still waiting for things to heat up, and hoping you will be covering them fairly and vociferously.
Posted by: Cluebat at June 01, 2017 08:25 AM (Mv/2X)
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The reason you guys, you "conservatives", haven't been fighting is because you don't have any fight in you.
You've been the manners/tone police for years, content to punch to your right to please your leftist masters.
All it takes to shut any of you up is to point out the implicit pro-white racism of your ideas.
That's a shame though. The real right, as opposed to the National Review "right", needs all the fight we can get.
But, as I said, I don't think there is any fight in the lot of you.
If you want to get some fight in you, you might start by studying the ideas of the actual right: traditionalism, hierarchy, stability. The leftist idea of universal human equality has to be jettisoned. It is the source of the problem.
Who decided to let mentally and morally cretinous people vote anyway? Why should such people have any voice in your future, in your children's future?
But you won't look into this, you're scared.
You've been the manners/tone police for years, content to punch to your right to please your leftist masters.
All it takes to shut any of you up is to point out the implicit pro-white racism of your ideas.
That's a shame though. The real right, as opposed to the National Review "right", needs all the fight we can get.
But, as I said, I don't think there is any fight in the lot of you.
If you want to get some fight in you, you might start by studying the ideas of the actual right: traditionalism, hierarchy, stability. The leftist idea of universal human equality has to be jettisoned. It is the source of the problem.
Who decided to let mentally and morally cretinous people vote anyway? Why should such people have any voice in your future, in your children's future?
But you won't look into this, you're scared.
Posted by: Rhino at June 01, 2017 08:36 AM (ag+fg)
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OK..but STOP PUNCHING RIGHT.
Stop virute signaling to those you claim to be in a long drawn out fight with. thats all you are doing when you Punch Right.
Stop virute signaling to those you claim to be in a long drawn out fight with. thats all you are doing when you Punch Right.
Posted by: Quilp at June 01, 2017 08:51 AM (txGCj)
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Thank you Ace. You are not alone.
Posted by: NJRob at June 01, 2017 09:39 AM (W6e3c)
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Hey Ace.
I used to come down on you hard for what you've said in the past, being on the 'we must be better, we must not hit back when they hit us' train. I was pretty fierce in my criticism of that thinking, and of you for advancing it.
I criticize no more. Glad you've seen the light.
Good, solid post. Thank you for it.
I used to come down on you hard for what you've said in the past, being on the 'we must be better, we must not hit back when they hit us' train. I was pretty fierce in my criticism of that thinking, and of you for advancing it.
I criticize no more. Glad you've seen the light.
Good, solid post. Thank you for it.
Posted by: DDT at June 01, 2017 09:41 AM (DUynq)
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Oh look another "I finally get it" post.
"We" in your post should say "I".
Anyway, hopefully your awakening sticks for more than a couple weeks this time around but I'm not going to hold my breath.
"We" in your post should say "I".
Anyway, hopefully your awakening sticks for more than a couple weeks this time around but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Posted by: thisbeingmilt at June 01, 2017 09:42 AM (MbrzC)
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668 Ace,
I'm probably still banned due to a childish rampage on your part, but I'd like to say - congratulations on waking up!
I've been saying this for years.
Just like I was for Trump before you jumped on the bandwagon (and I remember you being viciously anti-trump), and degrading pro-trump people, you used to degrade people who argued for using the left's nasty tactics against them, but as with Trump, you have come around.
Indeed, if I recall correctly, you made a comment during your never-trump phase that implied Trump was like a nazi. I called you out on it and was threatened with a banning.
But, as you slowly came around to my point of view on Trump, you are likewise coming around to my point of view on tactics. Amazing growth on your part.
Posted by: monkeytoe at June 01, 2017 08:09 AM (3ZtZW)
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Not necessary for you to poke Ace. You're not banned since I see and am responding to you. Ace is on the right side. You know that. Why are you attacking?
I'm probably still banned due to a childish rampage on your part, but I'd like to say - congratulations on waking up!
I've been saying this for years.
Just like I was for Trump before you jumped on the bandwagon (and I remember you being viciously anti-trump), and degrading pro-trump people, you used to degrade people who argued for using the left's nasty tactics against them, but as with Trump, you have come around.
Indeed, if I recall correctly, you made a comment during your never-trump phase that implied Trump was like a nazi. I called you out on it and was threatened with a banning.
But, as you slowly came around to my point of view on Trump, you are likewise coming around to my point of view on tactics. Amazing growth on your part.
Posted by: monkeytoe at June 01, 2017 08:09 AM (3ZtZW)
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Not necessary for you to poke Ace. You're not banned since I see and am responding to you. Ace is on the right side. You know that. Why are you attacking?
Posted by: NJRob at June 01, 2017 09:46 AM (W6e3c)
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Wow, had the chance to read this whole awesome essay while I waited in Court. Brucking filliant!
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at June 01, 2017 10:15 AM (N/T7m)
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I've always seen the SJWs and the "respectable Left" as no different morally than Ceaucescu's Securitate loyalists --rampaging brainwashed thugs who even need a prison net over them when they're being treated in the hospital. They can never be persuaded, only crushed or terrorized into submission. They really belong in hospitals for the criminally insane, if we still have those.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at June 01, 2017 10:22 AM (N/T7m)
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I would submit, kind sir, that you are correct in all the particulars except one...
Yes, they see passivity as weakness...
But it is because they are like unto animals, you named them correctly;
Social Justice Wolves.
To the moral / Christian man; Your preachers have harmed you, by demanding you behave as 'moral men', and 'turn the other cheek'. It was also written to 'sell your coat and buy a sword'. This is because there are levels of evil, from a basically moral man making an insult, to the psychopathic killer, do we conflate both as the same thing? The moral man turns the cheek to demonstrate the superiority of his character, but he also knows when to defend the innocent. Holding to a doctrine, or ideology, in the face of evil, allows evil to thrive... in essence, it is a 'doctrine of devils'.
As others have noted above the Way of Ghandi, was the way of the Dalai Lahma, the Animals took his country. The SJWs are taught there is no God, so how would you expect them to behave? Even those who have elevated their ideology to the status of a moral god, do not understand that this was all predicted a long time ago... In Revelation 10, John was given 'The Little Book', which was of "Sweet words on the tongue, like honey, that grows bitter in the belly". This is the most perfect definition of political correctness I've ever read.
The Beast is coming, it is The Animal within man. It has been said over and over, that civilization is merely a veneer over the souls of animals. Now we see that to be true. Ace is right, it is time to understand, what time we're in... it is time for the Righteous man to "do exploits". It is also time to understand, that righteous men bare burdens until they can't, that evil will win the short game... because they are evil, but the good must take up the sword to defend the innocent.
Yes, they see passivity as weakness...
But it is because they are like unto animals, you named them correctly;
Social Justice Wolves.
To the moral / Christian man; Your preachers have harmed you, by demanding you behave as 'moral men', and 'turn the other cheek'. It was also written to 'sell your coat and buy a sword'. This is because there are levels of evil, from a basically moral man making an insult, to the psychopathic killer, do we conflate both as the same thing? The moral man turns the cheek to demonstrate the superiority of his character, but he also knows when to defend the innocent. Holding to a doctrine, or ideology, in the face of evil, allows evil to thrive... in essence, it is a 'doctrine of devils'.
As others have noted above the Way of Ghandi, was the way of the Dalai Lahma, the Animals took his country. The SJWs are taught there is no God, so how would you expect them to behave? Even those who have elevated their ideology to the status of a moral god, do not understand that this was all predicted a long time ago... In Revelation 10, John was given 'The Little Book', which was of "Sweet words on the tongue, like honey, that grows bitter in the belly". This is the most perfect definition of political correctness I've ever read.
The Beast is coming, it is The Animal within man. It has been said over and over, that civilization is merely a veneer over the souls of animals. Now we see that to be true. Ace is right, it is time to understand, what time we're in... it is time for the Righteous man to "do exploits". It is also time to understand, that righteous men bare burdens until they can't, that evil will win the short game... because they are evil, but the good must take up the sword to defend the innocent.
Posted by: Piper Michael at June 01, 2017 10:43 AM (d8K0y)
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I am a liberal and I see my friends cheering Kathy Griffin and frankly it makes me sick. Go for it, hit us in our advertising dollars. What is right is right. What is wrong is anyone who makes direct threats against the president it's illegal for one and secondly it has no place in a human discourse. I look at that and think wtf kathy. wtf. I agree with your post. We should all have equal rights, liberal or conservative.
Posted by: bonerici at June 01, 2017 11:13 AM (e+MAM)
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One of your most spot on commentaries, Ace. The only leverage, short of violence, is economic. And for decades the wet Right has been telling us this is not allowed (as it might hurt the companies employing their relatives and themselves later on). So only the Left has had this tool to beat us with. The true Right needs to develop a consensus on boycotting left-leaning companies, and put into effect. Will that produce a right-leaning culture? Hardly, but it will move us back towards the middle.
The one element left out of your righteous philippic is the Soros factor. The paid brown shirts of the left, whether live on campus or multiplied robots online. That must be countered.
The one element left out of your righteous philippic is the Soros factor. The paid brown shirts of the left, whether live on campus or multiplied robots online. That must be countered.
Posted by: TomScott at June 01, 2017 11:43 AM (9/QQm)
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Meh. You tried self-censoring and it didn't work..now you're going to act the same and you think that will? Sucker. The only thing that's going to set things right is bloodshed in the streets. The sooner you accept that's where this is al headed the sooner you will be prepared for it when it comes.
Nazism wasn't stopped with words. It took bloodshed. This is no different.
Nazism wasn't stopped with words. It took bloodshed. This is no different.
Posted by: Chris at June 01, 2017 12:49 PM (C5VQV)
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Posted by: xanax at May 31, 2017 06:44 PM
"And so we do self-censor ourselves because we don't want to lose our jobs, not be able to pay the mortgage, have our kids face consequences, etc from fighting back."
So what happened to "...with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor.?"
Somehow we have to get that spirit back. Unless we do the left will win.
"And so we do self-censor ourselves because we don't want to lose our jobs, not be able to pay the mortgage, have our kids face consequences, etc from fighting back."
So what happened to "...with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor.?"
Somehow we have to get that spirit back. Unless we do the left will win.
Posted by: Oldfart at June 01, 2017 01:00 PM (3Wa4H)
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I know what you mean about engaging in debate with the dishonest. It never works. As a great man once said:
"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again.
But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The [Marxist] had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day."
"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again.
But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The [Marxist] had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day."
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Posted by: pst314 at June 01, 2017 02:14 PM (T4dRn)
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Posted by: Californiacontrarian at June 01, 2017 04:21 PM (HyTVu)
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Welcome to the war all of you conservatives who have been operating under the Marquess of Queensberry Rules. Time to throw that book away. If it's a war, (and it is) you need the right ammo. One needs to start by thinking correctly about this.
The left is the enemy. Not in a metaphorical sense, but really for real. Don't ever forget that these same people put 100,000,000 people in their graves during the 20th century for not being leftist enough. They will do it to you too if given half a chance. Time to take them seriously.
I recommend:
The Art of War by Sun Tzu
The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Green
The 35 Strategies of War also by Robert Green
SWJs Always Lie by Vox Day
The Way of Men by Jack Donovan
MAGA Mindset by Mick Cernovich
Understanding your enemy is the first step in defeating him.
The left is the enemy. Not in a metaphorical sense, but really for real. Don't ever forget that these same people put 100,000,000 people in their graves during the 20th century for not being leftist enough. They will do it to you too if given half a chance. Time to take them seriously.
I recommend:
The Art of War by Sun Tzu
The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Green
The 35 Strategies of War also by Robert Green
SWJs Always Lie by Vox Day
The Way of Men by Jack Donovan
MAGA Mindset by Mick Cernovich
Understanding your enemy is the first step in defeating him.
Posted by: RedMoonJournal at June 01, 2017 06:39 PM (ilMEE)
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Welcome to the fray. I suspect that had we all fought fire with fire at the beginning, this would not be occurring. We are constantly bringing a knife to a tank fight thinking honor and decency will prevail. Honor is being stamped into the ground. Decency no longer exists.
Posted by: Darrell at June 01, 2017 07:21 PM (kw7ec)
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Another awakening. It's amazing how many "right-wing" websites I've just abandoned since November 9...because the writers / pundits just don't seem teachable to me anymore. I've cut off leftist friends that I've known for 50 years. I just cannot abide them taking anymore of my time or energy.
Dr. Savage was ahead of his time. The left is insane--incurably so. They are TWANLOC. A reckoning is inevitable and it's not going to come from anything currently defined as a political party. But it is going to come, and the left is going to be very sorry that they provoked it.
Dr. Savage was ahead of his time. The left is insane--incurably so. They are TWANLOC. A reckoning is inevitable and it's not going to come from anything currently defined as a political party. But it is going to come, and the left is going to be very sorry that they provoked it.
Posted by: Lawrence Larson at June 01, 2017 11:32 PM (d/r2I)
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Posted by: Golfman at June 02, 2017 09:19 AM (SchFD)
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"Ace's post wasn't a call to violence, but suggesting violence will get you banned."
So Georgina F Will still trumps Based Stickman around here. Good to know.
As for me, I'm taking concrete steps to make sure I'm properly equipped if I ever find myself involved in a polar bear hunt.
So Georgina F Will still trumps Based Stickman around here. Good to know.
As for me, I'm taking concrete steps to make sure I'm properly equipped if I ever find myself involved in a polar bear hunt.
Posted by: Byzantine_Corporal at June 02, 2017 04:39 PM (Z5vgj)
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"Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum" I have been preparing for the last 20 years. It's coming and soon. Being a realist is not necessarily a end result of paranoia, sometimes it's just being situationally aware.
Posted by: Balfy at June 03, 2017 09:56 AM (MjJ4+)
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Okay, welcome aboard, I guess but Ace-baby is about forty years late to this party. Do unto others as they would do unto you, only harder and possibly first. Nuke 'em from orbit! It's the only way to be sure.
Posted by: The Revenger at June 05, 2017 08:00 AM (6qgLz)
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...they aren't Social Justice Wolves ... they're social "justice' JACKALS ...
...and the aren't resisting ... they're revolting. As Mel Brooks would say, "They stink on ice."
...and the aren't resisting ... they're revolting. As Mel Brooks would say, "They stink on ice."
Posted by: Laughing Tyger at June 05, 2017 01:44 PM (+v7y4)
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I was a TEA Party leader in my county. Even before that I picketed progressive office holders over policy. I cautioned people to remain civil for 10 years. No longer. I am tired of turning the other cheek. This 72 year old veteran is almost to the point of wanting some Antifa Fascist to confront me. I loved it when conservative Australian, Mr. Bolt, nailed one of the attacking Antifa Fascists.
Posted by: amr at June 07, 2017 09:17 PM (+ERhJ)
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What freedoms have you lost exactly, Ace? Honest question from a noob.
Posted by: Confused at June 12, 2017 07:04 PM (I1EjX)
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697 What freedoms have you lost exactly, Ace? Honest question from a noob.
Posted by: Confused at June 12, 2017 07:04 PM (I1EjX)
The freedom to speak and act conservatively in public, and the freedom to speak and act non-progressively in public. These are two big, important freedoms.
Posted by: Confused at June 12, 2017 07:04 PM (I1EjX)
The freedom to speak and act conservatively in public, and the freedom to speak and act non-progressively in public. These are two big, important freedoms.
Posted by: Matthew Goggins at June 16, 2017 11:46 PM (OBl7l)
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Bravo! Bravo!
Posted by: Sb at June 17, 2017 12:09 AM (D7RBS)
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Great, now what do you propose to do about it? It's only the first step to say you've had enough. What actions are you taking?
Posted by: Traderbarn at June 17, 2017 07:33 AM (6cKoE)
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I agree with every word. But let me offer this remedy: Bring back the Draft.
Military Service is not just good for the country. As Gen Brut Krulak observed in his classic "First To Fight," it is good for the Manhood of the nation. Under the ministrations of a motivated and motivating Drill Instructor, young, unfocused boys are turned into useful and productive men ready to take their place in society.
And don't think these kinds can't be redeemed. After all, it was the same generation who swore an oath at the Oxford Union not to fight for king and country, who manned those Spitfire and Hurricane cockpits during the Battle of Britain. Our sons and daughters are made of just a stern a stuff.
Military Service is not just good for the country. As Gen Brut Krulak observed in his classic "First To Fight," it is good for the Manhood of the nation. Under the ministrations of a motivated and motivating Drill Instructor, young, unfocused boys are turned into useful and productive men ready to take their place in society.
And don't think these kinds can't be redeemed. After all, it was the same generation who swore an oath at the Oxford Union not to fight for king and country, who manned those Spitfire and Hurricane cockpits during the Battle of Britain. Our sons and daughters are made of just a stern a stuff.
Posted by: potkas7 at June 17, 2017 11:07 AM (2XAuG)
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Twenty-five years ago -- after having spent more than a dozen years in NYC -- I told a childhood friend "We will have to fight these people one day. They hate our God, our guns, this country, everything we believe in." At the time, he thought I was crazy; not so much anymore.
You come a long way in this piece, but there remains a distance to travel. The good news is, these aren't your Grandaddy's commies. Narcissism doesn't lend itself to sacrifice or courage. Hit these jokers once and they will waver; a second time, and they will scatter. Perhaps some of them will return, but they have to assured of the consequences losing will bring.
You come a long way in this piece, but there remains a distance to travel. The good news is, these aren't your Grandaddy's commies. Narcissism doesn't lend itself to sacrifice or courage. Hit these jokers once and they will waver; a second time, and they will scatter. Perhaps some of them will return, but they have to assured of the consequences losing will bring.
Posted by: Kevin Cutt at June 17, 2017 01:08 PM (jWACw)
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698 The freedom to speak and act conservatively in public, and the freedom to speak and act non-progressively in public. These are two big, important freedoms.
Huh? 1st amendment is still there, so your freedom of speech has not been impacted. Now, in a lawful society this only provides you w/ legal protection. In a free society, there can still be societal consequences in exercising these rights, among these can be economic (ex/ boycotts). I think you may be conflating these -- you still have the same freedom to say what you want -- but this doesn't immunize you from the consequences of your words.
I don't know of any laws in existence (in this country, anyway) against 'acting non-progressively', in public or otherwise.
I would respectfully submit that you have not provided an example of a single lost freedom
Huh? 1st amendment is still there, so your freedom of speech has not been impacted. Now, in a lawful society this only provides you w/ legal protection. In a free society, there can still be societal consequences in exercising these rights, among these can be economic (ex/ boycotts). I think you may be conflating these -- you still have the same freedom to say what you want -- but this doesn't immunize you from the consequences of your words.
I don't know of any laws in existence (in this country, anyway) against 'acting non-progressively', in public or otherwise.
I would respectfully submit that you have not provided an example of a single lost freedom
Posted by: Confused at June 19, 2017 12:17 PM (I1EjX)
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