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Saturday Evening Movie Thread 05-27-2017 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

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What's the point of a movie trailer? I think that it's to convince the audience to spend money to see the advertised movie. Not to entertain on its own, although that can be a happy accident of well created trailers, but to promise an experience that will be worth a few dollars and a couple of hours of your time.

How to actually go about that, though, has changed dramatically over time. I'm no expert in movie trailers, but the changes are easy to see if you ever lose yourself in Youtube looking for a decent trailer to Moby Dick. You can find the original trailer below, but, at least for me, it doesn't convince me to see the movie itself.


Show, Don't Tell


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Older movie trailers seem intent on telling the audience that the movie is going to be amazing instead of showing how amazing the movie will be. That's why you get screens emblazoned with words about the size of the production, the cast, the number of extras. They also tended to be a fair bit longer than modern trailers. The Moby Dick trailer is more than three minutes long, while a three-minute-long trailer is actually pretty rare. Below is the trailer for Man of Steel which, no matter your opinion of the movie itself, makes the movie look slick and exciting.


Longer modern trailers are rare, apparently, because of agreements between movie studios and theater chains. Chains don't want long trailers because they want to get as many screening in per day as possible. Their current agreement allows for a movie studio to release one 3-minute trailer per year that the theater is willing to show before a feature film.

But, to take this back to the actual point, compare the two trailers. Moby Dick has a lot of voice over created for the advertisement. It's big language, praising Melville, and using grandiose verbiage to describe Ahab. When dialogue gets played, the sections are longish, and the trailer music even stops at times. It does still show some of the action of the film, but it feels like a film clip set to different music. I'm not judging it, but just pointing out that it's kind of clunky in execution, never really building up to anything, just presenting some stuff in an order. Man of Steel, however, is all about building up to its climax of action, trying to get you worked up and pumped to see the movie.


Technique, Hiding a Lack of Substance?

When I was growing up, the one movie trailer that stood far above the movie that it was selling was the below trailer for The Mummy Returns:


That's exciting. It makes the movie look big, bold, action packed, and a great time at the movies. For those of you who remember the movie itself, though, you got a middling action adventure movie filled with a curious sense of self-importance and a shocking lack of The Rock.

Another one was the below trailer for Alexander, directed by Oliver Stone:


That looks sweeping, epic and engrossing. The movie, though, is a complete mess. It's such a mess that Oliver Stone has come out with two more cuts of the movie, both of which are described as his definitive vision for the film. Hell, not to turn this into a review of the movie, but Val Kilmer is the only one who seems to actually be in a historical epic about Alexander the Great. Angelina Jolie seemed to think that she was in a horror movie.


My Small Contribution

About a year ago, I got a little bored and put together the below trailer for Moby Dick. I offer no comment, but am interested to see what the Horde thinks of it.


So…?

Trailers can be fun. What trailers have you loved but hated the movie? What movies have you loved but hated the trailer? Do you think that you can tell the quality of a movie based on the trailer itself?


Note

TheDolleyMadison and I actually have a babysitter for the night, so I will not be commenting. I'm going to the movie theater! You can't really understand how exciting this is for me.


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales
Baywatch
Drone

Next in my Netflix Queue:
Point Blank

Movies I Saw This Week:
The Jewel of the Nile (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1.5/4) Poster Blurb: "A complete mess that had no idea how to recapture the charm of the original."

Meatballs (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2.5/4) "Hit or miss comedy with a surprisingly sweet core between Bill Murray and the kid."

Knights of Badassdom (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2/4) "I've never seen a movie fall apart so thoroughly in its third act before."

Cars 2 [rewatch] (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2/4) "Spy fun with cars for kids. Meh, Jr wanted to watch it."


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1 Every time I go to the movies, which isn't often, there's 10-15 minutes of trailers. It's really annoying.

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 07:22 PM (0mRoj)

2 Missed it by that () much

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:24 PM (Ot7+c)

3 Trailers for sale or rent.

Posted by: Roger Miller at May 27, 2017 07:24 PM (IqV8l)

4 So which movie are you and Missus Madison seeing?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 07:25 PM (NT3RT)

5 Was hoping for some good war movies tonight, meaming right now but not seeing anything.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:25 PM (Ot7+c)

6 Call me Ishmael.

Posted by: Ishmael at May 27, 2017 07:25 PM (ZO497)

7 Call me Dick.

Posted by: Moby Dick at May 27, 2017 07:26 PM (ZO497)

8 Rooms to let, 50 cents

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:26 PM (Ot7+c)

9 The trailers are not bad at the beginning of a movie. Often they are better than the movies themselves or what you are going to see.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (iHjB5)

10 Was hoping for some good war movies tonight, meaming right now but not seeing anything.
Posted by: Skip
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TCM has been showing them all day.

'Good', of course, is relative.

Posted by: Moby Dick at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (ZO497)

11 What's the point of a movie trailer? I think that it's to convince the audience to spend money to see the advertised movie. Not to entertain on its own, although that can be a happy accident of well created trailers, but to promise an experience that will be worth a few dollars and a couple of hours of your time.

--The South Park episode with the boys enduring a Russell Crowe Fighting TV show just to see a Terrance and Phillip: Asses of Fire 2 trailer was epic.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (GsAUU)

12 Didn't know Moby Dick was a Muslim suicide bomber.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (sdi6R)

13 As a kid my dad listened to that stuff, Kingston Trio, Johnny Cash

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (Ot7+c)

14 I remember seeing the teaser trailer for "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World", which made the movie look like a crappy "Pirates of the Caribbean" knockoff. I thus didn't see the movie in theaters. When I rented the movie, I was blown away, and "Master and Commander" is now one of my favorite films, but somebody in marketing really messed up plugging that movie.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (1WTGm)

15 The trailer for "Prometheus" is a much better experience than the movie itself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34cEo0VhfGE

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 07:28 PM (NT3RT)

16 Surprised this wasn't the Roger Moore thread...

John Derbyshire is recommending Ivanhoe (technically a TV series).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:29 PM (XRIvr)

17 Yeah been watching Rock Hudson but that bloom was off long ago. Watched Men at War earlier, had to button up outside stuff and missed the anti war ending. ( looked it up)

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:29 PM (Ot7+c)

18 Sometimes the trailers and ads go on for so long that I momentarily forget which movie I'm seeing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 07:30 PM (NT3RT)

19 I've seen so many shitty movies recently, I can't even list them all. I've tried to blot them all out of my mind.

Most were Indie "mumblecore" nihilist dramedies that premieres at Sundance or the Toronto Film Festival or some other heebie-jeebie convention.

Overall recommendation: Stay away from modern indies! 95% of them are unwatchable crap, churned out by film-school graduates trained in narcissism and postmodernism and anti-commercialism.

Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:30 PM (DQ4Fv)

20 I have wished another Master and Commander movie since reading the books.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:31 PM (Ot7+c)

21 10 Was hoping for some good war movies tonight, meaming right now but not seeing anything.
Posted by: Skip
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TCM has been showing them all day.

'Good', of course, is relative.
Posted by: Moby Dick at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (ZO497)

--On Memorial Day itself, TCM will have Kelly's Heroes, Where Eagles Dare, The Dirty Dozen, and Destination Tokyo.

Monday morning AMC will have Midway.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:31 PM (GsAUU)

22 Less Moby, MORE DICK!!!

Posted by: Shep Smith at May 27, 2017 07:31 PM (oVJmc)

23 John Derbyshire is recommending Ivanhoe (technically a TV series).
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
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What channel?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 27, 2017 07:32 PM (ZO497)

24 "Meatballs" is surprisingly rewatchable. Like a lot of comedies of that era, it's a collection of sketches, without a real plot as such. Yeah there is a villain... sort of... the rich kids in their snooty camp for toffs. But they're just sort of there, not really driving the plot. Contrast with Revenge Of The Nerds or even Animal House.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:33 PM (XRIvr)

25 Most trailers are bad. Some are good.

And sometimes the good trailer is for a movie that will never exist.

Here's a link to the classic "Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern" trailer from several years ago -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hTiRnqnvDs

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 07:33 PM (deapv)

26 "What channel?"

Er... your home channel, if you have a DVD player, and the DVDs

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:33 PM (XRIvr)

27 I was even playing Boccherini when I finished a book
https://youtu.be/8dmWAve3Pvk

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:33 PM (Ot7+c)

28 "I offer no comment, but am interested to see what the Horde thinks of it."

Not enough cabin boy.

Posted by: Hard Asteae at May 27, 2017 07:34 PM (BO/km)

29 Fun fact -

Quite frequently when a trailer is released, the music for the movie still isn't done yet. So an unrelated musical piece is used for the trailer.

The soundtrack from 'The Rocketeer' is something that tends to get reused quite a bit in movie trailers.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 07:34 PM (deapv)

30 Hah, or the trailer for the Rob Ford movie, starring Chris Farley

There needs to be that movie

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:34 PM (XRIvr)

31 Some comedies are bad, but the trailers have all the funny parts in them.

I have heard that Ted has all the Funny in its trailer.

I have never seen Home Alone either, and I think the same goes for it.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:34 PM (GsAUU)

32 a few years ago people remade trailers to movies for surprise or comic effect. someone did a great reboot of kubrick's "the shining" as a family film of love and father/son conciliation. an amazing piece of work, very professional.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 07:35 PM (WTSFk)

33 junior: the Houston Browncoats got to see Serenity some months before tickets went on sale. The movie was almost all there. It was missing the soundtrack and a few CGI bits in the middle (one of River's dream-sequences IIRC).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:36 PM (XRIvr)

34 Saw the trailer for Dunkirk when went to Hacksaw Ridge, made me want to see it

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:37 PM (Ot7+c)

35 Trailers I loved and hated the movie... THAT would probably be Baywatch, if I wanted to watch the movie, which I don't. The trailers made it look like what I expect of a Baywatch movie: the Rock and bikinis.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:38 PM (XRIvr)

36 This article has links to a number of trailers, and concerns itself with the pacing of the edits rather than the overall length. Of particular note is the insane number of cuts in the trailer for Dr. Strangelove.
https://www.wired.com/2013/06/online-trailers-cuts

Posted by: Western Slope Mope at May 27, 2017 07:38 PM (WrMht)

37 The trailer for President Barky teased me with expansive racial healing and American pride.

President Barky: The Buggering instead delivered racial pandering, Divide and Conquer, and Ferguson and Baltimore riots.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:38 PM (GsAUU)

38 I don't like trailers that show all the best scenes of a movie. Also Greg Allman is kaput.

Posted by: freaked at May 27, 2017 07:39 PM (BO/km)

39 It seems The Rock is often in trailers that don't make for decent movies. But I *did* enjoy The Scorpion King.

Despite it being a badly-edited mess. Rogue One was also a badly-edited mess, but still enjoyable, IMO. This usually happens when the movie is Salvageable Shite; sometimes editors can actually salvage it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:40 PM (XRIvr)

40 32 a few years ago people remade trailers to movies for surprise or comic effect. someone did a great reboot of kubrick's "the shining" as a family film of love and father/son conciliation. an amazing piece of work, very professional.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 07:35 PM (WTSFk)

--A classic:

https://youtu.be/u1kqqMXWEFs

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:41 PM (GsAUU)

41 That mummy's girlfriend is hawt.

Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2017 07:41 PM (zLDYs)

42 I've never seen a movie based on a trailer ... unless there's some super hot chick in the trailer.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 07:41 PM (zc3Db)

43 Next in my Netflix Queue:
Point Blank

++++

I checked that one out at IMDB and the description sounded familiar. Sure enough, the Mel Gibson flick, Payback, is a remake of Point Blank.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 07:42 PM (R+30W)

44 I'm peddling a screenplay I've got for a dynamite trailer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 07:42 PM (oVJmc)

45 I just bought an R-Pod travel trailer .. oh wait ..nevermind.

Posted by: Billy Vera at May 27, 2017 07:43 PM (e3l1B)

46 @42 I've never seen a movie based on a trailer ... unless there's some super hot chick in the trailer.
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Occasionally I'll see a trailer for a movie that I might have an interest in, but that I'd never heard of before. It's pretty rare, though. I think the last time that happened was for the documentary "Last Days in Vietnam".

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 07:44 PM (deapv)

47 Go to the Drive-In. Who cares what the movie is? IYKWIMAITYD!

Posted by: Very Undude at May 27, 2017 07:44 PM (2X7pN)

48 The teaser for Superman Returns hits the nostalgia harder than any other. I didn't know that John Williams could give me an erection, no homo.

https://youtu.be/4CuJ08nwJpA

The two Superman movies (and the recent Star Wars movies) were far superior in cleverness and execution than the property they draw from. To an audience that is much less impressed. The scenes where he saves a 747, or lifts an island while being stabbed, would have made a 1980 audience shit a brick.

I don't know what it means. You could argue that there are not going to be huge cultural hits anymore at the cinema. Nor in 30 years are they going to bring back something we loved as a kid.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 07:44 PM (VdICR)

49
In prehistoric times trailers were it. How else could one see what the new movies were about. Nobody left their seat until the trailers were finished.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 07:46 PM (6qmBU)

50 Magic trailer (actually TV commercial, IIRC):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezkx07HYylo

So shocking at the time I still remember it 40 years later.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 07:46 PM (oVJmc)

51 Crap. More storms headed this way. I'm starting to mildew. Doesn't auger well for Memorial Day observance either.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 27, 2017 07:47 PM (ZO497)

52 Long Long Trailer trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucb9O8q1eOc

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 07:47 PM (oVJmc)

53 Surprised this wasn't the Roger Moore thread...

John Derbyshire is recommending Ivanhoe (technically a TV series).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:29 PM (XRIvr)



I thought we might get a bit of Roger tribute as well. I really wish some station would have run The Saint this weekend

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 27, 2017 07:48 PM (auHtY)

54 ... just looked it up on youtube - it's available as "the shining (happy version)" very funny. in the sidebar there's the likes of forrest gump as a gangster movie and silence of the lambs as a romcom. they play with trailer tropes very professionally.

people are so smart!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 07:48 PM (WTSFk)

55 I inspired The Rain Man.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 27, 2017 07:49 PM (GsAUU)

56
A good trailer is like gold. Take this example: Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter. The first trailer whets your appetite, tells you that this film is going to be weirdly, and awesomely epic (I love the way they use the silhouette shot of Abe that starts at 90 degrees and slowly turns upright in this trailer).

The second trailer says "here's a standard Hollywood tentpole comic book basket of cliches". Awful, and ordinary. And it does it using largely the same exact video clips as the first trailer. The voiceover kills it.

First trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXulj8Lgcyg

Second trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZp7eBStN1U

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 07:49 PM (quw2O)

57 "Gregory Peck IS Abraham Lincoln!"
TheJamesMadison, I loved your recut of the Moby Dick trailer - much better than the original.

Posted by: Dr Alice at May 27, 2017 07:51 PM (LaT54)

58 just looked it up on youtube - it's available as "the shining (happy version)" very funny. in the sidebar there's the likes of forrest gump as a gangster movie and silence of the lambs as a romcom. they play with trailer tropes very professionally.

people are so smart!
Posted by: musical jolly chimp
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Pfft.

Posted by: Hitler Videos at May 27, 2017 07:51 PM (ZO497)

59 I'm hoping for a good weather morning Monday, I'm going to ride my bike down to my parents and follow the parade back my way which ends up at the cemetery. It was mostly cancelled except for the fire company that had its own.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:51 PM (Ot7+c)

60 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 07:47 PM (oVJmc)
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Classic!

Posted by: Weasel at May 27, 2017 07:51 PM (Sfs6o)

61 Here are some the horrible movies I've seen in the last month. Avoid them all:

A Hologram for the King, with Tom Hanks. Meandering, insulting, plotless, set in Saudi Arabia. Couldn't even finish it. 1.5/10

[b}Goat, with James Franco. Horrible, anti-man feminist jerk-off fantasy about how evil fraternities are. No redeeming features. 1/10

[Zoom, with Alison Pill. Circular "plot": A girl draws a comic book about about a guy who's making a movie about a woman who's writing a novel about a girl who's drawing a comic book...etc. Turns out, there is no such thing as reality! Worse than it sounds -- zero humor. 2/10 ("2" for the sex scenes).

Turks and Caicos, with Bill Nighy. Incomprehensible. Turned out to be "part 2" of a three-part movie -- if you hadn't seen the first one, then then second one makes zero sense. 2.5/10 (decent acting).

The Lobster, with Colin Farrell. Dystopian fantasy about a futuristic hotel where guests get turned into animals. Internally inconsistent, violates all rules of logic and coherence, boring, misadvertised as a comedy. 2/10 (good acting in bit parts).

Digging for Fire, with Orlando Bloom. Infuriating mumblecore anti-comedy about wealthy LA thirty-somethings who do...nothing, ultimately. You just wanted all the characters to die already. 3/10 (Sam Rockwell is excellent in a cameo.)

Don't ever check out or watch any of these films.

Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:51 PM (DQ4Fv)

62 Don't ever check out or watch any of these films.
Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:51 PM (DQ4Fv)

--Thanks, but that's like warning me not to sleep with Lena Dunham.

I was never tempted. :lol;

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 27, 2017 07:53 PM (GsAUU)

63
29 Fun fact -

Quite frequently when a trailer is released, the music for the movie still isn't done yet. So an unrelated musical piece is used for the trailer.

The soundtrack from 'The Rocketeer' is something that tends to get reused quite a bit in movie trailers.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 07:34 PM (deapv)








The climax music from Aliens got re-used in pretty much every action movie trailer from the mid-80s to 2000. To be fair, it's an awesome piece of music.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 07:54 PM (quw2O)

64 /Slow Joe sock

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:54 PM (GsAUU)

65 Damn zombie, that is a lot of hours of your life you're not getting back

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:54 PM (XRIvr)

66 Ooooo, Watters' World will have Jesse hitting the beach talking to skimpily bikinied beach bimbos.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:55 PM (GsAUU)

67 Here's a neat trailer for Blade Runner that gives it a good LA noir feel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhJ7Mf2Oxs

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 07:55 PM (NT3RT)

68 Watters is not bad as a Tucker Lite.

Pwning a leftard Zerocare supporter.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:55 PM (GsAUU)

69 Andersonville is on Get TV, this is a long movie 4 hrs. Saw it maybe a year ago thought it was very good. I have a original book from a former prisoner, and read another from a different writer.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:56 PM (Ot7+c)

70 Sunday evening a "Sneak Preview" at the downtown theater was exhibited. You would watch the advertised movie then watch an unreleased movie yea-woooo. At exit the viewers would receive questionnaire cards to review the preview.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 07:56 PM (6qmBU)

71 Here's my review of "Alien:Covenant" again:



Saw "Alien: Covenant" the other day-


There will be some SPOILERY STUFF so avoid if you haven't seen it and wish to-
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Okay, this iteration of "Alien" still brings the stupid pretty heavily throughout, but-

it doesn't seem quite as stupid because the emphasis this time is on horror action so you aren't given as much time to contemplate the stupid as in "Prometheus" where it was all about the "mystery of human life".

How stupid?

Well, once again they land on a perfect, Earth-like planet, with cultivated Wheat even, and it never occurs to these Space Morons that an Earth-like planet would be loaded with Earth-like variations of viruses, bacteria, protozoa- which would be deadly.

So, they're off once again traipsing around the planet, picking daisies, and dancing the maypole.

At least, throw science a bone here, have a ten second conversation where "the integrated holistic endangerator" shows no pathogens of any consequence in air, soil, or water. Done.

But, that's not all, two of the crew members almost instantly get secretly infected by spitting puffballs.
And suddenly manifest horrible hemorrhagic virus-like symptoms. Almost instantly.

So, of course, they're instantly brought into the ship. Not isolated. Not observed and treated outside. Nope. Into the ship.

Hijinks ensue.

This is not the intelligent "Alien" horror show you were hoping for-

so just consider it a throwback to 1950s sci-fi with everyone wandering around bare-faced in Space Rompers and let it go.

"Alien: Covenant" really is a throwback to something like "House of Dracula" where the creepy dude invites you into his creepy house to do creepy things.....to Space Morons (the bad kind).

One scene still sticks out as the Stupidest Scene in the Entire Alien Series -

the captain after seeing David, the creepy evil cyborg, make kiss-faces to the Oppressive White Xenomorph that just killed one of his crew-

follows David around after seeing how shocked and angry David was that he, the Captain killed the Misogynystic White Xenomorph-

while David is explaining that he has been experimenting on all the life-forms on this planet to develop and improve the Xenophobic White Xenomorph-

and brings the captain into a dark chamber to show him the creepy looking Alien egg-pod thingys as his ultimate version of the Homophobic White Xenomorph-

And the creepy looking pod-dealio opens up it's veiny, slimy Space Labia of Doom and David invites the captain to look inside becuz it's awesome(!)-

And the captain, instead of shooting David, shooting the pods and getting the hell out of there
sez-

"Okey-Doke" and sticks his head in the pod.

You can guess what follows.


Aaaaaanyway, "Alien:Covenant"-

The Good-

Some great action scenes, creepy Alien stuff

The Bad -

Plotting still "Prometheus" quality but you think about it less becuz...great action scenes. Still, enough time between scenes that I was rewriting the movie in my head(not a good sign).

The Meh -

they really missed out on a great horror moment with the big reveal between David and the 2nd in command. Really missed.


Expect, a really well-shot and directed 1950s sic-fi flick mashed up with a 1930s haunted house flick and you'll have a good time.


Oh...and you get to learn that the whole Alien foofaraw, all of it, every bit of it, was caused by-

a cyborg being ordered to pour a cup of tea.

So, don't order your cyborg to pour any Lapsang Souchong.

They hate Lapsang Souchong...

...Orange Pekoe might be okay.

That's the moral of this story.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 27, 2017 07:56 PM (9q7Dl)

72

Alexander was one of the most disturbing and perverted movies ever made. Total trash and creepy.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 07:57 PM (a6O80)

73 I rented Alexander thought I would like it. It blew chunks. Stopped it after half an hour.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 27, 2017 07:57 PM (mpXpK)

74 59 - last year because weather was iffy

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:58 PM (Ot7+c)

75 Where is the trailer for Medellin?!?!

Posted by: Billy Walsh at May 27, 2017 07:58 PM (9uYWN)

76 65 Damn zombie, that is a lot of hours of your life you're not getting back
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo/i]

I actually didn't watch most of them all the way through to the end.

The only one I saw all of was "Digging for Fire," because they tricked the viewers into thinking there was a "murder mystery" that was going to be solved at the end. Except, when you get to the end -- they don't solve it! The filmmakers basically admit, "Ah, we was just fuckin' with ya -- we needed a maguffin to trick you into watching the whole movie. There never was a murder. Ha ha! Fooled you!" I almost smashed the DVD in rage.

All the rest of them I gave up somewhere in the middle.

Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:58 PM (DQ4Fv)

77 unitalic. Sigh.

Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:59 PM (DQ4Fv)

78 So Meals on Wheels is like Planned Parenthood: posing as a standard non-profit charity, but in reality just a de facto government program.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:59 PM (GsAUU)

79 During the era of TV becoming a thing, old trailers had to advertise the cool features a movie could do TV could not. Vistavision! CinemaScope! In glorious technicolor! I kinda love those. And sweeping epics got more sweeping. It's fun To see the films of that era playing with the format, like how to marry a millionaire and the girl can't help it. Featuring random stuff in the film like full orchestra intros.

Modern films seem so intent on telling you every plot twist so you might think it's interesting enough to go to. Half of the trailers ruin the film now! If there is any "there" there to ruin.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 07:59 PM (ZSEpY)

80
Alexander was pornographer Bob Goochyonie's Caligula minus the penetration and compelling story.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:00 PM (a6O80)

81 Heh, Todd Rungren will be on Jesse Watters' show next.

I recall Todd as a favorite of Clrahes Jhnoosn's.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:00 PM (GsAUU)

82 LMAO, Rundgren said the values in his show will offend Trump supporters.

Yeah, I guess not wanting to work and banging on a drum all day are not compatible with Trump supporters.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (GsAUU)

83
78 So Meals on Wheels is like Planned Parenthood: posing as a standard non-profit charity, but in reality just a de facto government program.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:59 PM (GsAUU)







I've gotten cynical enough that I consider ALL charities and non-profits to be scams designed to hoover up government subsidies and fools' money.

Fisher House is the one exception to that cynicism.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (quw2O)

84 Unbroken 2014 is on FXM, Louis Zamperini's experience as a POW of the Japanese

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (Ot7+c)

85 Never saw Alexander. Was warned off by the reported homoerotisism.

I have managed to bear this heavy burden.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (iHjB5)

86
I hate the name Todd. Never met a Todd worth a damn. Or a Kyle.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:05 PM (a6O80)

87 I've gotten cynical enough that I consider ALL charities and non-profits to be scams designed to hoover up government subsidies and fools' money.

Fisher House is the one exception to that cynicism.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (quw2O)

--I think you can leave overtly pro-life charities off that list as well.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (GsAUU)

88 LMAO, Rundgren said the values in his show will offend Trump supporters.

Let's take Tod's values at his word. We'll break in to his concert, take seats from actual ticket holders, and refuse to leave.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (oVJmc)

89 Alexander was one of the most disturbing and perverted movies ever made. Total trash and creepy.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 07:57 PM (a6O80)
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I gots to know - why?

I avoided it because I thought Colin Farrell's Irish mug was about as far from Alexander's famous profile as one could get. And I like Colin Farrell.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (NT3RT)

90 The theater - films - widescreen, CinamaScope, 70mm, excellent musical scores with a quality sound system - almost overwhelming, the sights and sounds almost absorbed you. Now the theater is full of kids slipping in bottles of wine who have no comprehension of SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (6qmBU)

91 People my age in my neck of the woods are gushing about Hunt for the Wilderpeople, so it's on the list if films to watch. Is on Hulu. Anyone seen it?

And friends are plotting to see Wonder Woman opening night so I'll do that. Best case scenario is like the first Cap America film, a good superhero + period piece. Bad case scenario is feminist SJW muck. I'm hoping for the former, fingers crossed.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (ZSEpY)

92 Not sure I have met a Todd since high school.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (iHjB5)

93 84 Unbroken 2014 is on FXM, Louis Zamperini's experience as a POW of the Japanese
Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (Ot7+c)

--Pretty good flick.

I like the "Lead, Kindly Light" reference.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:07 PM (GsAUU)

94 Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but Greg Allman passed away.

Also, as expected, new Roger Waters tour is filled with Trump hate.

The tour just opened; I watched a lot of it online, and it seems really uneven. PInk Floyd's Greatest Hits meets Spinal Tap Jazz Explorations with Giant, GIANT Screens and Roger's face 40' tall.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 08:07 PM (aT+Bx)

95 Growing up in South Carolina and living in Georgia, The Allman Brothers was one of my favorite groups. Gregg Allman by himself, not so much. Sad to see him go, though.

Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (zLDYs)

96 80
Alexander was pornographer Bob Goochyonie's Caligula minus the penetration and compelling story.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:00 PM (a6O80)

It's no Nymphomaniac the Director Cut!

Posted by: Billy Walsh at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (9uYWN)

97
I gots to know - why?

I forget now. But Val Kilmer made my skin crawl. He had the look on his face like he wanted to stick his finger in people's butts.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (a6O80)

98 Todd is a protopajama boy. Probably likes pina colada and all that shit.

Posted by: freaked at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (BO/km)

99
85 Never saw Alexander. Was warned off by the reported homoerotisism.

I have managed to bear this heavy burden.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (iHjB5)







I couldn't care less about the homo shit, as long as it's not shoved down my throat........errrr, so to speak. If it's an essential part of the story, and not just preaching, then so be it.

But with or without the homo, Alexander is a truly awful, incoherent film.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (quw2O)

100 In a world... where TVs are hi-def and TV shows are filmed with the cinematic quality of The Expanse...

... you're not getting anything from going to a cinema, except for the experience of sitting to the left of a bratty five year old boy and to the right of a passive-aggressive a$$hole who spends the whole movie audibly sighing.

(If you get that experience at home, my condolences.)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (XRIvr)

101 Ill Tempered Cur,

There's lots of teasers that are better than trailers. Luc Besson's Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets.

https://youtu.be/NNrK7xVG3PM

George Lucas will be in his bunk.

A teaser is supposed to be baffling and non-talkative. When it does that, it is playing to the strengths of the medium. There are plenty of trailers, and movies, that would be much better with Fury Road amounts of dialogue.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 08:09 PM (VdICR)

102 94 Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but Greg Allman passed away.

Also, as expected, new Roger Waters tour is filled with Trump hate.

The tour just opened; I watched a lot of it online, and it seems really uneven. PInk Floyd's Greatest Hits meets Spinal Tap Jazz Explorations with Giant, GIANT Screens and Roger's face 40' tall.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 08:07 PM (aT+Bx)

--shibumi, you're in MI . . . no love for Jim Bunning???

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:09 PM (GsAUU)

103 I forget now. But Val Kilmer made my skin crawl. He had the look on his face like he wanted to stick his finger in people's butts.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (a6O80)
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I'm Buttman.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 08:09 PM (NT3RT)

104 Mentioned before saw Todd at Knebworth England 1979

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 08:10 PM (Ot7+c)

105 Thanks for that review of Alien Covenant, naturalfake. I'm not going to see it after having read your comments on it. I watched the first two Alien movies this week which haven't held up well over time. I don't get why they keeping going with the same story line of letting the infected guy back on the ship. Stupid.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 27, 2017 08:11 PM (Rsi2C)

106
Bunning is mort? That's why he was mentioned?

I thought you were just talking random baseball.
Bunning was a good man.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:11 PM (a6O80)

107 'Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but Greg Allman passed away.'

I did. He was from 'round here. The whole town will probably get stupid for a couple of days and him dying will get more attention than Memorial Day.

Posted by: freaked at May 27, 2017 08:12 PM (BO/km)

108 Bunning is mort? That's why he was mentioned?

I thought you were just talking random baseball.
Bunning was a good man.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:11 PM (a6O80)

--I'm glad that at least for today I'm not the slowest Moron.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:12 PM (GsAUU)

109
Also, as expected, new Roger Waters tour is filled with Trump hate.

The tour just opened; I watched a lot of it online, and it seems really uneven. PInk Floyd's Greatest Hits meets Spinal Tap Jazz Explorations with Giant, GIANT Screens and Roger's face 40' tall.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 08:07 PM (aT+Bx)








It's really pathetic to see a man trying to hide the fact that he's been musically irrelevant for nearly 40 years.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 08:12 PM (quw2O)

110 Now the theater is full of kids slipping in bottles of wine who have no comprehension of SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.
Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM

Lol. The only way my sister got through the first Twilight movie was sneaking in s flask o rum to add to the coke she bought at concessions. And we had to take the coke away halfway through because she was leaning on it a BIT too much by then, heh.

We purposely went to it when was cheap and a matinee to heckle if needed, our own MST3K. Girls on dates around us were ticked, but I think their dates were amused.

Normally I'm a patron of perfect politeness in the theatre. But yeah that was a tough film to sit through.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (ZSEpY)

111 During the era of TV becoming a thing, old trailers had to advertise the cool features a movie could do TV could not. Vistavision! CinemaScope! In glorious technicolor! I kinda love those. And sweeping epics got more sweeping. It's fun To see the films of that era playing with the format, like how to marry a millionaire and the girl can't help it. Featuring random stuff in the film like full orchestra intros.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 07:59 PM (ZSEpY)


I don't know about all that. Back then, TVs were the size of fishbowls. The movies were a whole other universe, without any of the CinemaScope sort of stuff. And movies were just much higher quality than anything on TV. I think they were advertising to each other more than to the audience, most of whom couldn't really give a shit about any of that stuff.

Nowadays, most people have TVs that are large enough to get a movie sort of feeling with them (and sound systems) but that is only a very recent development. Of course, these days people seem happy enough to watch movies on a 4 inch screen. Go figure.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (zc3Db)

112 I actually think the first two Alien movies do hold up, except for the wretched special-effects on chestbuster 1. Spaceballs skewered that scene.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (XRIvr)

113 Val Kilmer gets a lot of rope for two things: Real Genius and Tombstone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (iHjB5)

114
From what I saw, the new Alien is the S.O.S., same old shit.

Cranky nonchalant smart-mouthed bored spaceship crew who turn out to be dangers to themselves.



Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (a6O80)

115 23 John Derbyshire is recommending Ivanhoe (technically a TV series).
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
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What channel?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 27, 2017 07:32 PM (ZO497)

++++

There have been a few Ivanhoe movies and series, but since BTH was talking about Roger Moore, he must have been talking about the 1958 series. According to Wiki, it was never released on DVD. The only place I could find it is on torrent sites.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 08:14 PM (R+30W)

116 You can't judge a cover by its book.

Posted by: Todd Kyle at May 27, 2017 08:14 PM (IqV8l)

117 The Alien flicks are enjoyable, but The Thing (the '80s one) blows them away.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (GsAUU)

118 There was a period of a year or so, maybe 5 or 6 years ago, when rented DVDs had like 20 or more minutes of trailers and you could NOT avoid them by going to the root menu to simply start the movie (feature was deactivated).

And then if you didn't finish the movie and had a dumb player that didn't remember your place, you'd have to suffer through the pain the next time you inserted it.

I tried all kinds of workarounds like trying to execute various individual files on the DVD itself and researching tricks, but to no avail.

Simply maddening (always eliciting a slew of curse words from me much to my wife's chagrin), so I learned to put the movie in the player quite some time before actually being ready to sit down and watch it.

Don't know if it was confined to certain studios or distributors, but this must have really pissed off people who purchased the DVDs as it appears they've since ended that practice.

Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (ZcAbN)

119 Aliens wears well. Burke does look a bit too yuppie popped collar business guy, but otherwise, very good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (iHjB5)

120 42
I've never seen a movie based on a trailer ... unless there's some super hot chick in the trailer.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 07:41 PM (zc3Db)

The movies Hobo With a Shotgun, and Machete came from the faux trailers in the Tarantino/Rodrigues Grindhouse double feature.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (XoldI)

121
You can't judge a cover by its book.

Posted by: Todd Kyle


heh.

in b4 Todd Kyle??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:16 PM (a6O80)

122
oops, I mean Kyle Todd

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:16 PM (a6O80)

123 The only way my sister got through the first Twilight movie was sneaking in s flask o rum to add to the coke she bought at concessions.

"Avatar" remains my only Three Beer Movie at the Alamo Drafthouse / Cinebarre.

I did sneak in that flask-o-rum for certain movies, but I don't remember which. Anyway I didn't, actually, sip much of the rum in the end.

I am VERY glad I didn't bring any serious booze to "Avatar" or they'd have had to wheel me out. That was an abomination.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:17 PM (XRIvr)

124 Alien is a seven-part franchise of which only the first two are liked by anybody.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:17 PM (oVJmc)

125 I think it is fitting that 30 years from now, Paul Riser will be known for Burke.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:17 PM (iHjB5)

126 Moby Dick TJM trailer is fine. It isn't 'hooky' but it builds nice.

It doesn't tell me what the movie is about, though. Just that there's sailors.

The job of a trailer is to put butts in seats before word of mouth. Some have done that well (Suicide Squad), some flat out lie (too many to list).

The trailer is also what first sets expectations. And if the movie isn't what the trailer shows, that's how you get backlash, even for movies that probably don't deserve it.

A good trailer is a work of art.

But I have to admit, I don't watch movies based on the strength of trailers alone.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 27, 2017 08:17 PM (xJa6I)

127 Never saw Alexander, but I liked Troy much more than I thought I would. I've seen it 3 times now.

Posted by: I had a name, but I forgot at May 27, 2017 08:17 PM (2WFxS)

128 Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but Greg Allman passed away.
Also, as expected, new Roger Waters tour is filled with Trump hate.
The tour just opened; I watched a lot of it online, and it seems really uneven. PInk Floyd's Greatest Hits meets Spinal Tap Jazz Explorations with Giant, GIANT Screens and Roger's face 40' tall.
Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 08:07 PM (aT+Bx)


Yup.....friend of mine back in the day would drop acid and listen to Floyd in his car in the parking lot. I would ask him about the different lyrics and he would go so in depth about them it was amazing. Too bad he couldn't get all worked up about real life though. Pink Floyd is and always was garbage.

Trailers always show the only part of the movie worth watching nowadays. I always liked the snack bar cartoons back when the world was sane.

I thought Greg Allman was already dead. Too bad. I always hoped Cher would go first.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (5VlCp)

129 David, the creepy evil cyborg
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I didn't see the first one, so I might have misunderstood something I read about this somewhere. But wasn't he a decaptitated head at the end of the last movie? I take it Noomi Rapace's character from the previous movie was stupid enough to give the treacherous backstabbing murderous android a new body? Presumably right before he painfully and messily killed her?

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (deapv)

130 I loved the 1st Alien, the 2nd was hair raising, 3rd was eh.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (Ot7+c)

131 The movies Hobo With a Shotgun, and Machete came from the faux trailers in the Tarantino/Rodrigues Grindhouse double feature.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (XoldI)


Never saw any of those. Don't like Tarantino. Don't like Rodrigues. Don't like any of the shit they spew out.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (zc3Db)

132 Val Kilmer gets a lot of rope for two things: Real Genius and Tombstone.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (iHjB5)

And Heat

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 27, 2017 08:19 PM (xJa6I)

133
Don't know if it was confined to certain studios or distributors, but this must have really pissed off people who purchased the DVDs as it appears they've since ended that practice.
Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (ZcAbN)


--Big Rat movies were notorious for that.

Now the thing with DVDs is that if you just rent them via Redbox you get a bare-bones DVD with rarely more than the feature; you gotta buy it to get deleted scenes and other worthwhile extras (which is fine by me since the flick is usually all I want, not the rambling of the director/cast commentary).

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:19 PM (GsAUU)

134 The movies Hobo With a Shotgun, and Machete came from the faux trailers in the Tarantino/Rodrigues Grindhouse double feature.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (XoldI)

Never saw any of those. Don't like Tarantino. Don't like Rodrigues. Don't like any of the shit they spew out.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (zc3Db)

Taste varies, but the man knows how to do a scene. Maybe not a whole movie, but you can take a single scene out of context and it is amazingly well done.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 27, 2017 08:19 PM (xJa6I)

135 Val Kilmer gets a lot of rope for two things: Real Genius and Tombstone.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (iHjB5)

And Heat


And Top Secret!.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:19 PM (oVJmc)

136 ShainS: The Hunger Games blu-rays (blu-rays!) unfortunately have trailers. Which are marked as "Mandatory Viewing" just like the Capital's propos in the film itself. Yeah... um... that's not funny.

I can kind of see having to endure trailers in a Redbox rental or maybe a library loan, but not in a blu-ray that you've paid a premium for. SHOW THE DAMN MOVIE ALREADY.

This is, of course, a large reason why piracy is such a thing, because pirates don't have to worry about previews. You get the movie, bam, on your desk, right away (after the download).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:21 PM (XRIvr)

137
I actually think the first two Alien movies do hold up, except for the wretched special-effects on chestbuster 1. Spaceballs skewered that scene.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (XRIvr)







Agreed.

But y'know, the practical effects in the first two films really do hold up well. Especially the Alien Queen, which is pretty much just a big puppet mounted to a crane. In the DVD Special Edition extras, there's some of the test footage of the first mockup of the queen. Basically it's the framework, covered with trash bags. They're running all the puppeteers for the thing.....while they're filming in a parking lot. Damned thing looks freakishly scary.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 08:21 PM (quw2O)

138 127
Never saw Alexander, but I liked Troy much more than I thought I would. I've seen it 3 times now.

Posted by: I had a name, but I forgot at May 27, 2017 08:17 PM (2WFxS)

The Achilles/Hector duel is epic.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 08:21 PM (XoldI)

139 @124 Alien is a seven-part franchise of which only the first two are liked by anybody.
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Seven? I thought the latest one was 6? Though I know that there are at least two more planned.

From what I've heard, it sounds like Ridley Scott is trying to retroactively remove 2, 3, and 4, from the canon. 3 and 4 probably wouldn't be missed all that much.

Aliens, on the other hand...

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:22 PM (deapv)

140 Best trailers ever are at the beginning of Tropic Thunder. Now, when I hear The Four Seasons, I hear female Jack Black say, "Yes, my good man. More beans, please."

Posted by: I had a name, but I forgot at May 27, 2017 08:22 PM (2WFxS)

141 I didn't see the first one, so I might have misunderstood something I read about this somewhere. But wasn't he a decaptitated head at the end of the last movie? I take it Noomi Rapace's character from the previous movie was stupid enough to give the treacherous backstabbing murderous android a new body? Presumably right before he painfully and messily killed her?
Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (deapv)
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I rewatched "Prometheus" and Elizabeth Shaw dragged David's body out of the ship along with his head in a bag. She had to take him because he knew how to pilot an alien spacecraft.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 08:22 PM (NT3RT)

142 Never saw any of those. Don't like Tarantino. Don't like Rodrigues. Don't like any of the shit they spew out.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (zc3Db)

--Neither made Hobo With a Shotgun.

It has the over-the-top gore QT likes. It has a heavy Canadian hand in its creation (John Dunsworth's daughters, Robb Wells, and hockeh skates) so it's a little different, though.

I liked it a lot as a revenge flick.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:23 PM (GsAUU)

143
Val Kilmer gets a lot of rope for two things: Real Genius and Tombstone.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (iHjB5)

And Heat

And Top Secret!.



And The Godfather.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:23 PM (a6O80)

144 LOL, "Satan's Alley"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:24 PM (XRIvr)

145 Gregory's Pecker played Moby's Dick

Posted by: Captn Cock Curious at May 27, 2017 08:24 PM (w9FXL)

146 "I forgot" == Lemon Kitten?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:24 PM (XRIvr)

147 i think alien and aliens hold up very well. real champs.

but i expected the next sequel to be about the mayhem when the corporation smuggles an alien onto earth. don't know why they didn't try that, seems like a natural.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:25 PM (WTSFk)

148 @141 I rewatched "Prometheus" and Elizabeth Shaw dragged David's body out of the ship along with his head in a bag. She had to take him because he knew how to pilot an alien spacecraft.
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Now, personally, if my choices were between "Rebuild the homicidal treacherous backstabbing android so that I can pilot a ship off of this rock," or "Sit tight and hope I'm lucky enough to have someone come by and rescue me," I'll go with the second option.

At least in that case, there's only a *chance* I'll die.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:25 PM (deapv)

149 I think in hindsight we are going to think Ridley Scott made a hash of the Aliens series already uneven quality.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:27 PM (iHjB5)

150
It's really pathetic to see a man trying to hide the fact that he's been musically irrelevant for nearly 40 years.
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IMHO, there are few, if any, artists over the age of 40 who are "musically relevant" anymore.

Waters spends money on his tours, and they look good. However, this one seems uneven. Kind of similar to U2's tour-- Giant Ass Video Wall.

/OK, confession. I write about entertainment technology, and my beat is concerts. That's how I know all these bizarre things.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 08:27 PM (aT+Bx)

151 I gotta say, DJT's golf course is really pretty.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:27 PM (GsAUU)

152 Red Letter Media explained 'Prometheus' pretty well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:27 PM (XRIvr)

153 Val Kilmer gets a lot of rope for two things: Real Genius and Tombstone.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (iHjB5)
And Heat
And Top Secret!.
And The Godfather.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:23 PM (a6O80)

Val was in a movie where the prison guards were fighting the prisoners in gladiator type fights and his cell mate was an innocent man who had to survive in the joint. Val was all fat in this one.

When his cellie arrived, Val asked him, "Do you want to fight or fuck?" and the guy said neither.
Pretty good movie.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2017 08:28 PM (5VlCp)

154 One of my (many) criticisms of "Covenant" was that, after suffering through her many horrors but surviving in the film "Prometheus", Elizabeth Shaw is dead as a door nail in the next flick (just like Newt and Hicks in Alien 3). What happened to her quest to find out the secrets of the Engineers?

I have heard that the next one may be a presequel between "Prometheus" and "Covenant".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 08:28 PM (NT3RT)

155 ... after all, the plots of the first two movies are about the corporation trying to get ahold of the creature... so naturally, that should follow.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:29 PM (WTSFk)

156 Couple of remarkable trailers in my experience.

Xanadu

This roller disco movie trailer shows Gene Kelly doing a few dance steps implying that Gene Kelly, aging hoofer legend, dances in the movie. In fact, the perhaps one second of Kelly's dancing in the trailer is all the dancing he does. I didn't care about Kelly, I saw the movie because back then Olivia Newton John was hot, but I resented being lied to.

Coal Miner's Dajghter

This trailer contained the plot of the entire movie. Didn't need to see the movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 27, 2017 08:30 PM (Nwg0u)

157 @147 but i expected the next sequel to be about the mayhem when the corporation smuggles an alien onto earth. don't know why they didn't try that, seems like a natural.
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The corporate weasel tried it in the second movie.

The Hadley's Hope colony was destroyed by the reactor going *boom* in the second movie, iirc. So there weren't any alien specimens around to recover. The plot summary I've seen of the third movie suggests that they tried at the end of that movie. But they failed again. By the time the fourth movie rolled around, the military was trying to clone the thing based off of a contaminated genetic sample. So evidently they hadn't found any more living xenomorphs in the intervening period of time.

At least in the movies.

There are a lot of comic books and novels that say otherwise. But given that Newt is still alive in those, they're obviously not the movie continuity.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:30 PM (deapv)

158 The differences between the first three movies is understandable- different directors, different writers. What is Scott's excuse.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:31 PM (iHjB5)

159 Many years ago I went to a showing of "Previews of Coming Attractions" at the L.A. County Museum of Art. It was great. Previews of silent films, all the way up to modern times. And some of them were hilarious.

Now, I'm not saying how long ago this was, but the last preview they showed?

Some film called "Star Wars".

Posted by: HH at May 27, 2017 08:32 PM (DrCtv)

160
One more thing about movie trailers.
Twenty minutes of them before the feature.

I'm so old I remember two or three trailers a cartoons (the good stuff) maybe a short film.

Posted by: YIKES! at May 27, 2017 08:32 PM (t6XCL)

161 Some of the movie trailers just don't work and I can't explain why. The Wonder Woman trailer? Did nothing for me. None of them did. The Valerian one looks amazing. I can't explain why.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 08:33 PM (39g3+)

162 One of my all-time favorite movies is Marathon Man with Laurence Olivier. Yes I realize the plot is muddled and there are more than a few scenes that leave the viewer thinking "Huh?" But Olivier creates one of cinema's most chilling and soulless villains and there are well-done scenes of excruciating intensity.
And...the trailer is awful. Tepid, watery, and unfocused, it does a terrible job of conveying what the film is about and an even worse job of convincing the customer to see it.

Posted by: Major1 at May 27, 2017 08:33 PM (UjIiY)

163 I remember being royally pissed that the trailer for John Carter was less compelling than the trailer for Wrath of the Titans. True, John Carter wasn't a great movie, but its trailers were just....so....bland. An amazing marketing fail for Disney...

The trailer for 300 (with the 'Just Like You Imagined' soundtrack) is probably the epitome of the modern action movie trailer. Perfectly encapsulates the movie, and is also entertaining in-and-of-itself!

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 27, 2017 08:34 PM (7aeqx)

164 the next one may be a presequel between "Prometheus" and "Covenant"

Nuke Ridley Scott's studio from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:34 PM (XRIvr)

165 Val was in a movie where the prison guards were fighting the prisoners in gladiator type fights and his cell mate was an innocent man who had to survive in the joint. Val was all fat in this one.

When his cellie arrived, Val asked him, "Do you want to fight or fuck?" and the guy said neither.
Pretty good movie.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2017 08:28 PM (5VlCp)


I was trying to remember the name of that movie. It was pretty good. I knew nothing about it before I saw it and was pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at May 27, 2017 08:34 PM (T71PA)

166 I really want to see Point Blank, but its not streaming

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 08:34 PM (39g3+)

167
Anyone remember the General Cinema previews?

I mean the little tune for the intro. It would show a big film reel and then the music...shh shhht shht shht-tttshhst

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (a6O80)

168 At least in the old days they made a movie and that was it. They generally didn't regurgitate them ad infinitum.

There was no Ben Hur III.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (ARzf8)

169 Some of the Wonder Woman trailers work better for me than others. I blame Gal Gadot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (iHjB5)

170 I really want to see Point Blank, but its not streaming

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 08:34 PM (39g3+)


TMC plays it pretty often.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (zc3Db)

171 ... would have given scott the opportunity to imagine another future earth, either a benevolent society run by a hillary played by helen mirren or judy densch, or a dystopian corporate dictatorship run by a bush, um, a trump.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (WTSFk)

172 OMG, the NIN trailer for "300". I saw that in the theatre and I gripped my then-gf's wrist.

I guess that's an advisory on dating BTH: contents volatile in presence of movies about Ancient Greeks.

Er, that didn't sound right . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:36 PM (XRIvr)

173 At least in the old days they made a movie and that was it. They generally didn't regurgitate them ad infinitum.

There was no Ben Hur III.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (ARzf


There were tons of movie franchises way back when.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 08:37 PM (zc3Db)

174
wow Youtube is amazing!

here's that old General Cinema intro I was talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzCAJt7HsqQ

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:37 PM (a6O80)

175
Seven? I thought the latest one was 6? Though I know that there are at least two more planned.


I was throwing in the Alien Vs. Predator movie. I didn't realize there were two of those.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:37 PM (oVJmc)

176 @168 At least in the old days they made a movie and that was it. They generally didn't regurgitate them ad infinitum.

There was no Ben Hur III.
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Remind me again which role the late Roger Moore was best known for?

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:38 PM (deapv)

177 Er, that didn't sound right . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:36 PM (XRIvr)

Do you like movies about gladiators?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:38 PM (iHjB5)

178 i think alien and aliens hold up very well. real champs.

but i expected the next sequel to be about the mayhem when the corporation smuggles an alien onto earth. don't know why they didn't try that, seems like a natural.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May




well, the problem with Aliens, which I really liked, was they would have solved a lot of their problems if they had simply gone outside. they had the detectors that could give you range and direction of aliens. simply going outside would have prevented the aliens from sneaking up on them and would have ensured the aliens could only approach them an the level, not from above or below.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:38 PM (cPsPa)

179 157: junior: um, you're right, they tried. thanks for the explanation.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:38 PM (WTSFk)

180 Heh, someone posted (albeit it's shit quality):

https://youtu.be/FAmTho20Wo0

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:39 PM (GsAUU)

181 Only trailer I've seen in a theater recently that made me go see the movie was for "Zootopia". That scene with the sloths at the DMV was so funny.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 27, 2017 08:39 PM (w+Jhj)

182 John Carter was kind of dull, it was okay but it just didn't have the right tone of pulp fun. Should have been more Indiana Jones, but it took its self far too seriously.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 08:39 PM (39g3+)

183 Some Upcoming Sequels:

The 11 Commandments

Malcolm XI

1777



Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:39 PM (oVJmc)

184 oh yeah, when you are on an alien planet waiting for you squad of colonial marines to find out what happened to the entire colony, close the doors on your assault craft.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:39 PM (cPsPa)

185 least in the old days they made a movie and that was it. They generally didn't regurgitate them ad infinitum.

There was no Ben Hur III.




someone said caitlin jenner will be in the upcoming been him.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:41 PM (cPsPa)

186 184 oh yeah, when you are on an alien planet waiting for you squad of colonial marines to find out what happened to the entire colony, close the doors on your assault craft.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:39 PM (cPsPa)

Also, stay armed at all times.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:41 PM (iHjB5)

187 If you've seen Planet of the Vampires and IT! The Terror from Beyond Space, you have to have seen the major contributions they made to 'Alien.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:41 PM (oVJmc)

188 "This trailer contained the plot of the entire movie. Didn't need to see the movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks"

That could be said of many of the trailers I've seen over the years.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 27, 2017 08:42 PM (w+Jhj)

189 Also, stay armed at all times.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May




yeah that. sure it is not detroit but it is dangerous

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:42 PM (cPsPa)

190 168 At least in the old days they made a movie and that was it. They generally didn't regurgitate them ad infinitum.

There was no Ben Hur III.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (ARzf

--Wasn't last year's the third iteration of Ben Hur?

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:42 PM (GsAUU)

191 The trailer for "Alien" in '79 is the best one I can think of ATM. It didn't give too much anyway, no voiceover, no dialogue. Love Alien 1, 2 and 3. After that, it's all downhill. Ridley Scott is making me reassess the worth of Alien 4. I don't hate it as much as I used to. At least it has interesting characters.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 08:42 PM (lmIoG)

192 Never saw Alexander. Was warned off by the reported homoerotisism.

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Shouldn't that word be homo-nausea-ism?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 27, 2017 08:43 PM (Nwg0u)

193 now that we're on aliens...

for me it was beyond stupid that the entire crew would land with the marines, leaving not one person on the orbiting mother ship.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:43 PM (WTSFk)

194 @190
--Wasn't last year's the third iteration of Ben Hur?
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There have been five films.

IIRC, the one with Heston was the third one.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:43 PM (deapv)

195
Saw Alien: Covenant.
I thought it was going to be about the origins of the Engineerings from the previous movie Prometheus but nope.

Instead it was about how bad decisions can cause you be to chase by very angry critters with a sneaky robot up to no good.

Posted by: YIKES! at May 27, 2017 08:43 PM (t6XCL)

196 165 Val was in a movie where the prison guards were fighting the prisoners in gladiator type fights and his cell mate was an innocent man who had to survive in the joint. Val was all fat in this one.

When his cellie arrived, Val asked him, "Do you want to fight or fuck?" and the guy said neither.
Pretty good movie.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2017 08:28 PM (5VlCp)


I was trying to remember the name of that movie. It was pretty good. I knew nothing about it before I saw it and was pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at May 27, 2017 08:34 PM (T71PA)

++++

Felon?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117385/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 08:44 PM (R+30W)

197
178 i think alien and aliens hold up very well. real champs.

but i expected the next sequel to be about the mayhem when the corporation smuggles an alien onto earth. don't know why they didn't try that, seems like a natural.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May




well, the problem with Aliens, which I really liked, was they would have solved a lot of their problems if they had simply gone outside. they had the detectors that could give you range and direction of aliens. simply going outside would have prevented the aliens from sneaking up on them and would have ensured the aliens could only approach them an the level, not from above or below.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:38 PM (cPsPa)

Bunker mentality. Recipe for disaster.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 27, 2017 08:44 PM (e1mEI)

198 On the theme of movies for this weekend, one war movie that's in the top 5 is "The Great Escape" The fact that it's (mostly) based on real events makes it even better.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 27, 2017 08:44 PM (w+Jhj)

199 Red Letter Media on Alien: Covenant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klsy8PiscEw

I just started it so, no clue. My guess is, they shred it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 08:45 PM (NT3RT)

200 now that we're on aliens...

for me it was beyond stupid that the entire crew would land with the marines, leaving not one person on the orbiting mother ship.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May




well, also, there is a moment in Aliens where the corporate puke admits they suspected there was something amiss on the planet before sending the colonists. why not send some robots down there to check things out before you send down the humans? you know, things that will not serve as alien hosts?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:46 PM (cPsPa)

201 but i expected the next sequel to be about the mayhem when the corporation smuggles an alien onto earth. don't know why they didn't try that, seems like a natural.

I expected that, too. I liked the 3rd one and 4th one as well but they were less exciting than the first two.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 08:46 PM (39g3+)

202 I wear earplugs at movie theaters. The previews and features both are too damn loud. Have to say one of the crappier movies seen on tv lately was the Noah thing with Russell Crowe. If I had seen that in a theater, I would have demanded my money back.What a load of crap, and yet one of my all time favorites was Master And Commander.

Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2017 08:46 PM (zLDYs)

203 agnew: The weather outside was bad and the terrain was volcanic with lots of jagged rocks .the xenos would have hunted them there too.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:47 PM (LpbSR)

204 John "Frickin'" Wick....

Posted by: KWDreaming at May 27, 2017 08:48 PM (lLOfk)

205 I didn't see the first one, so I might have misunderstood something I read about this somewhere. But wasn't he a decaptitated head at the end of the last movie? I take it Noomi Rapace's character from the previous movie was stupid enough to give the treacherous backstabbing murderous android a new body? Presumably right before he painfully and messily killed her?
Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (deapv)
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I rewatched "Prometheus" and Elizabeth Shaw dragged David's body out of the ship along with his head in a bag. She had to take him because he knew how to pilot an alien spacecraft.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 08:22 PM (NT3RT)



It's handled with five second of dialogue.

Something like "She was the only human who was kind to me. She put me together when I was badly injured."

Along those lines.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 27, 2017 08:48 PM (9q7Dl)

206 i did not finish Noah.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:48 PM (LpbSR)

207 What a load of crap, and yet one of my all time favorites was Master And Commander.
Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2017 08:46 PM (zLDYs)

--Great movie.

The books are highly recommended by Arthur Herman, historian and author of To Rule The Waves, for their accuracy and storylines.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:48 PM (GsAUU)

208 One question on MeTv, How did Lynda Carter get into the Wonder Woman costume?

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 08:49 PM (Ot7+c)

209 now that we're on aliens...

for me it was beyond stupid that the entire crew would land with the marines, leaving not one person on the orbiting mother ship.


Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:43 PM

Yeah, it's the biggest logic problem in Aliens. I guess cameron couldn't work out a way around it and keep the story being told. Still love it though. I forgive that sort of thing in a kickass flick.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 08:49 PM (lmIoG)

210 Is that Noah the one with the rock people?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2017 08:51 PM (fJ5wU)

211 The weather outside was bad and the terrain was volcanic with lots of jagged rocks .the xenos would have hunted them there too.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at May




well then what were they going to grow there? pet rocks? no thermal sights? that is it really cool rifles with some sort of injectable caseless amunition but only iron sights?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:51 PM (cPsPa)

212 Local Alamo Drafthouse is having a Kubrick festival, with Full Metal Jacket showing next month (too young to watch in the theater), and I'd love to see it, but that Wonder Woman asshattery will have me holding on to my $$$.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:52 PM (GsAUU)

213 When did Andrews AFB get renamed to Joint Base Andrews?

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:53 PM (GsAUU)

214 The planet in Aliens was in the process of being terraformed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:54 PM (iHjB5)

215 210 Is that Noah the one with the rock people?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2017 08:51 PM (fJ5wU)

--The Nephilim?

I heard that Noah was about climate change so I lost all interest.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:54 PM (GsAUU)

216 well, the problem with Aliens, which I really liked, was they would have solved a lot of their problems if they had simply gone outside. they had the detectors that could give you range and direction of aliens. simply going outside would have prevented the aliens from sneaking up on them and would have ensured the aliens could only approach them an the level, not from above or below.

I've said that today's modern military wouldn't have a whole lot of trouble with the aliens as depicted. The series always has to limit the capabilities of the humans to make them a viable threat.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:55 PM (oVJmc)

217 One question on MeTv, How did Lynda Carter get into the Wonder Woman costume?

I spent most of my younger years wondering how to get her OUT.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:56 PM (oVJmc)

218
168 At least in the old days they made a movie and that was it. They generally didn't regurgitate them ad infinitum.

There was no Ben Hur III.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (ARzf







The Thin Man series notwithstanding.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 08:56 PM (quw2O)

219 When did Andrews AFB get renamed to Joint Base Andrews?
Posted by: logprof at May




wasn't it late 2009?



Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:56 PM (cPsPa)

220 Local Alamo Drafthouse is having a Kubrick festival, with Full Metal Jacket showing next month (too young to watch in the theater), and I'd love to see it, but that Wonder Woman asshattery will have me holding on to my $$$.


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:52 PM

Wonder Woman??? Logprof, if you have a chance to see FMJ on the big screen... take it. It rocks on the big screen.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 08:56 PM (lmIoG)

221 The Master and Commander ship (the British one) is down on the waterfront here. Haven't toured it, even though I did go through the two subs next to it (one a Soviet Golf-class boat in poor shape). For many years one of the custom-built catamarans from Water World was tied up two piers away from my friend's cruising catamaran at the same marina. Never saw it being used.

Trying to think of the last time I was in a movie theater. Hmm, maybe three years ago - the latest Stalingrad movie (Russian production). Not awful, not great. Saw the 1993 German one at the AFI theater in DC - it was good (i.e. grim, tough, overwhelming).

My gawd, before that, we're talking Clint's two WWII movies, Flags, and Letters from Iwo Jima (meh, and sub-meh - but only in terms of the actual stories, and how weak and uninteresting the movies were in comparison).

On a more amusing note, I salute Merovign's sly attempt to turn the pet thread into a gun thread today. Valorous effort in the best tradition of the AOSHQ service.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 08:57 PM (QDnY+)

222 I just finished watching Tomorrowland. A subtle attempt at Leftism indoctrination. Funny that it contained a lot of violence. The part that really got me was the end when they were to recruit the best and brightest and the dreamers of a better future and not a white guy was to be found. Other than the above, not a bad movie.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 08:57 PM (IDPbH)

223 I've said that today's modern military wouldn't have a whole lot of trouble with the aliens as depicted. The series always has to limit the capabilities of the humans to make them a viable threat.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May




yep, you were right.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:58 PM (cPsPa)

224 Logprof,

What do you think of the Nash vs Pit Finals?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2017 08:58 PM (89T5c)

225 @216 I've said that today's modern military wouldn't have a whole lot of trouble with the aliens as depicted. The series always has to limit the capabilities of the humans to make them a viable threat.
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To add to that, Cameron apparently didn't base the Colonial Marines off of the volunteer US Army, which has been fairly professional since it went all-volunteer. Instead, he based it off of the conscript army that he was familiar with, which apparently had a lot more screw-ups in it.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:58 PM (deapv)

226
for me it was beyond stupid that the entire crew would land with the marines, leaving not one person on the orbiting mother ship.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:43 PM (WTSFk)

That one bothered me too. Bigger point is wtf did the drop ship crew land on the planet at a remote location. This seems like plot point tactics. Which when you view the many tactical mistakes in that movie shows how badly Cameron wanted his Vietnam parallel by how far he had to go.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:58 PM (iHjB5)

227 That one bothered me too. Bigger point is wtf did the drop ship crew land on the planet at a remote location. This seems like plot point tactics. Which when you view the many tactical mistakes in that movie shows how badly Cameron wanted his Vietnam parallel by how far he had to go.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May




interesting

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:59 PM (cPsPa)

228 I actually think the first two Alien movies do hold up, except for the wretched special-effects on chestbuster 1. Spaceballs skewered that scene.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (XRIvr)



You know, the funny thing is that I always considered the practical efx chestburster kinda lame-

until I saw the State of the Art CGI Chestburster Alien in "Alien:Convenant"

honestly it's ridiculous...like....Alien Barbie.

The low tech, hard to define, blood-splattered chestburster is actually the superior and more horrifying effect.

Who knew.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 27, 2017 09:03 PM (9q7Dl)

229 Wonder Woman??? Logprof, if you have a chance to see FMJ on the big screen... take it. It rocks on the big screen.
Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 08:56 PM (lmIoG)

--Yeah, I am torn. It's pricey, because in addition to the admission there's a T-shirt with the "BORN TO KILL" helmet on it (I want to get one in my son's size but not sure at what age), so it's enticing.

The Wonder Woman thing was posted here --only chicks (only bio, or also self-identified? hmmm) were allowed for the first showing.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:04 PM (GsAUU)

230 Tastes obviously vary, but logprof you're only missing half a movie if you skip FMJ. As some others have noted, second part (in Vietnam) is pretty forgettable, or silly, or uninteresting, depending on your personal take. I'm sure some love it, but even as a Kubrick semi-cultist, blah, and meh. First part of course is classic in its own way.

(if, for some reason, someone did sequels to FMJ, would they title them things like "LSWCHP", or "BTHP", I wonder?)

Can't recall if I saw Master and Commander in a theater. It's well executed, in every way. Interesting to hear it's fairly accurate - something I value in historical flicks.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:04 PM (QDnY+)

231

To add to that, Cameron apparently didn't base the Colonial Marines off of the volunteer US Army, which has been fairly professional since it went all-volunteer. Instead, he based it off of the conscript army that he was familiar with, which apparently had a lot more screw-ups in it.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:58 PM (deapv)






True, he was very clear that the Colonial Marines were based on Vietnam-era conscripts. On the other hand, the modern, professional volunteer military that we know today really didn't take shape until Reagan brought in the budgets necessary to properly train and equip it. In '86 when Aliens was released, that process was still ongoing. So the Vietnam meme really wasn't much of a stretch at the time.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 09:04 PM (quw2O)

232 Why did the drop ship land? Because then the Aliens could ambush and kill them, cutting the marines off from the ship.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:04 PM (iHjB5)

233 Don't complain about Joint Base Andrews, LogProf. I suppose it could have been stuff like Camp Lena Dunham. Or Fortress Liberace.

Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2017 09:05 PM (zLDYs)

234 naturalfake, dunno if true, but I've read that the chestburster scene was filmed in one take, with some of the cast deliberately not informed as to exactly what was to happen - so as to enhance the surprise/shock effect.

I'm sure the movie nerds in abundance here can confirm/debunk this.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:07 PM (QDnY+)

235 224 Logprof,

What do you think of the Nash vs Pit Finals?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2017 08:58 PM (89T5c)

--Mainly that I want Smashville to win.

Seriously, it should be awesome. Mike Fisher is the grizzled vet of the Preds, although Subban is not far behind. The Kings pulled it off as the bottom seed champs just five years ago, so I can dream. I hope Rinne will stay hot and catch that lightning in a bottle like Quick did. . . .

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:07 PM (GsAUU)

236 Worst movie experience.. when mom and I went to see Driving Miss Daisy and two black women behind us mouthing off the first 20 minutes then got up and left because they just couldn't stand the fact that that's the way it was in that time.

Funniest movie experience.. my grown son crying at the end of King Kong.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 09:07 PM (CNHr1)

237 worst movie ever, spaceballs, first movie I ever walked out of.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:08 PM (cPsPa)

238 --Yeah, I am torn. It's pricey, because in addition to the admission there's a T-shirt with the "BORN TO KILL" helmet on it (I want to get one in my son's size but not sure at what age), so it's enticing.

The Wonder Woman thing was posted here --only chicks (only bio, or also self-identified? hmmm) were allowed for the first showing.


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:04 PM


Oh, I see. Well, IMHO, forget that shit just this time, bite the bullet and just go. You don't get many shots at seeing something like FMJ at the movies. If you don't go, you'll regret it later.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:08 PM (lmIoG)

239 Worst movie I ever saw in the theater? Cutthroat Island.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:09 PM (iHjB5)

240 I walked out of a movie once. It must have been really bad because I don't remember the name to safe my life.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 09:10 PM (CNHr1)

241 Worst movie seen in a theater.

Looking for Mr. Goodbar

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 09:10 PM (IDPbH)

242 Yes, the theater was empty and I must have been one of the five people who saw it nationwide.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:11 PM (iHjB5)

243 Instead of waiting until I finally get a real TV, I should get a copy of Storyville from the local library system to see how that scene came out where I was sitting about 3 feet out of the camera's eye at Cafe du Monde while James Spader kept sneezing (powdered sugar on the beignets) and forcing many takes of a very short scene.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:11 PM (QDnY+)

244 Worst movie seen in a theater. The Blair Witch Project.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 27, 2017 09:11 PM (auHtY)

245 230 Tastes obviously vary, but logprof you're only missing half a movie if you skip FMJ. As some others have noted, second part (in Vietnam) is pretty forgettable, or silly, or uninteresting, depending on your personal take. I'm sure some love it, but even as a Kubrick semi-cultist, blah, and meh. First part of course is classic in its own way.

(if, for some reason, someone did sequels to FMJ, would they title them things like "LSWCHP", or "BTHP", I wonder?)

Can't recall if I saw Master and Commander in a theater. It's well executed, in every way. Interesting to hear it's fairly accurate - something I value in historical flicks.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:04 PM (QDnY+)

--Oh, I stick around for the second half just for Animal Mother.

Also, as I mentioned above, *all* of the Patrick O'Brien books got the thumbs-up from Arthur Herman, most specifically for the accuracy of the details. I hope there are some of them on Audible.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:11 PM (GsAUU)

246 Katie Hopkins on Judge Jeanine's show.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:14 PM (GsAUU)

247 Went to see "Cabin Boy". It was just me and my man, plus two other guys several rows back.

15 minutes past the start time and still no movie. I go and get an usher and he says "Oh wow, we didn't know anybody came to see that thing! There was nobody for the last showing."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 09:14 PM (NT3RT)

248 The original Forest Gump playing on TV right now.

No Time For Sergeants

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 09:15 PM (IDPbH)

249 naturalfake, dunno if true, but I've read that the chestburster scene was filmed in one take, with some of the cast deliberately not informed as to exactly what was to happen - so as to enhance the surprise/shock effect.

I'm sure the movie nerds in abundance here can confirm/debunk this.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:07 PM


Basically true. None of the cast, except John Hurt, knew what they were filming. I think Ian Holm may have known also. Not sure on that one. The bit where Yaphet Kotto tries to stab the chestbuster with the fork and Holm stops him, may have been added afterwards. But essentially it was done in two sections... First the breakfast scene, Hurt convulses and ends up on the table. Then they were all ushered away while they prepped Hurt for the big sequence setup on the table. The rest of the cast were brought back in to do the burst. They knew something really bad was on the cards (plastic sheeting etc covering some of the set) but, they didn't know WHAT exactly.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:16 PM (lmIoG)

250 I once heard Master and Commander described as the perfect movie for middle aged white guys. As one of those (OK, I was middle aged when the remark was made), I have to agree. I really enjoy that movie. I watch it at least once a year. Wish there had been more of the franchise.

Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 09:17 PM (V+03K)

251 Moby Dick? HATED IT!

Posted by: Men on Film at May 27, 2017 09:17 PM (wRCZ1)

252 Cabin Boy. Now there was a stinker.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:18 PM (iHjB5)

253 I really enjoy that movie. I watch it at least once a year. Wish there had been more of the franchise.
Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 09:17 PM (V+03K)

--Don't give up just yet. According to Wiki, the novels were huge best-sellers, and Dog knows that as much as Hollywood loves to go to the well for comic books, someone will resurrect those books on screen.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:19 PM (GsAUU)

254 I love it when there are 20 minutes of trailers before a movie. I don't watch tv anymore and don't always know what's coming out. Plus trailers are usually pretty exciting, they are trying to sell you something, after all.

I hate it when the trailer has scenes that aren't in the movie, or worse, when they put the funniest scene in the trailer. Christmas Office Party is a perfect example.

I also hate it when the movie score doesn't match the timeframe of the movie. The trailer for the new King Arthur movie does this. Totally threw water on any desire for me to watch. Meh.

Posted by: squeakywheel at May 27, 2017 09:19 PM (ntmD3)

255 Thanks, otho. Thus endeth my contribution to any movie trivia discussions (though there is that thing about Kubrick circulating the script of Strangelove to people in the biz, such as the RAND folks, to check the accuracy - if that's the word - of his caricatures of people/ideas in the nukyler strategery field).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:20 PM (QDnY+)

256 So overstock.com still makes ads, but alas, the MILFy spokesbabe is not on them anymore.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:20 PM (GsAUU)

257 I mentioned in an early thread that I watched Steel Helmet earlier . A Korean War movie made in only 10 days. I would say it would have to be one of the best 10 day movies ever made.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 09:20 PM (IDPbH)

258 The Alamo dh shows we we are losing to our he hypocritical lef. Instead of suing into oblivion , a few suggest simply claiming t identify as female as a response. No, it ain't gonna cut it. Until the left is confronted, they will keep winning the all important culture war. They ignore at will, and boast about public accommodation laws they themselves cite over cake bakers and hmos seeking wedding cakes, and say they will expand the policy and our side of idiots responds by saying a business can do as it wants, which misses the point.

I agree too, but this cannot stand. They must live and die by sword or we can just give into them right fucking now.

We keep playing nice and by the rules, and our own positions and values are used full force against us. The left knows we agree that p.a. Laws are dumb, so they know we will defend them claiming a biz right to exclude, while only applying laws they like against the other tribes they detest selectively.

That cannot be allowed.

U must, as a man go to those screenings and threat to sue and act upon it. They have to get punched hard in the face on this at all costs, it's a hill to die on and it's getting only minor angry they are hypocrites but oh well type of coverage today.

Gawd, no wonder we are losing.

Posted by: Me at May 27, 2017 09:20 PM (idhyN)

259 >>I once heard Master and Commander described as the perfect movie for middle aged white guys. As one of those (OK, I was middle aged when the remark was made), I have to agree. I really enjoy that movie. I watch it at least once a year. Wish there had been more of the franchise.

If you liked the movie, read the books. That should entertain you for the next couple years.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2017 09:21 PM (/tuJf)

260 I saw the trailer for Hot Fuzz in the theater. I about pissed myself watching the scene where Nick Frost had that goofy look on his face and ran through the fence.

Hot Fuzz is thusly on a 3-month rotation.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 27, 2017 09:21 PM (wRCZ1)

261 In 2004 I overheard a conversation. Older man: "What should we see?" Young man: "Team America?" Older man "I am NOT spending money to watch a goddam puppet show!"

This is how I feel about Blair Witch, Paranormal Activity, and any similar movie. I had a hi-8 camera when I was a teen, and I will damn sure not watch anything with a worse picture than that.

The old guy didn't know the meta-joke, that Team America was Thunderbirds on a Michael Bay scale. The photography is beautiful and Bill Pope is a famous DP. It should be. If it isn't gorgeous, then people should stay home.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 09:24 PM (VdICR)

262
I saw the trailer for Hot Fuzz in the theater. I about pissed myself watching the scene where Nick Frost had that goofy look on his face and ran through the fence.

Hot Fuzz is thusly on a 3-month rotation.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 27, 2017 09:21 PM (wRCZ1)







Cool thing with that scene is that it's a deliberate callback to one of the funnier gags in Shaun of the Dead.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 09:24 PM (quw2O)

263 260 I saw the trailer for Hot Fuzz in the theater. I about pissed myself watching the scene where Nick Frost had that goofy look on his face and ran through the fence.

Hot Fuzz is thusly on a 3-month rotation.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 27, 2017 09:21 PM (wRCZ1)

--I have all 3 of the Cornetti movies. I love in The World's End when The Network just gives up and says "Fuck you!" A great coda to the trilogy.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:24 PM (GsAUU)

264 Walker was the original John Wick.

Posted by: goon at May 27, 2017 09:24 PM (EaQ6/)

265 We had to leave before the end of King Kong because my daughter couldn't bear to watch the ape die.

Posted by: I had a name, but I forgot at May 27, 2017 09:25 PM (2WFxS)

266 This libtard on Judge Piro's show is a blowhard dipshit.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:25 PM (GsAUU)

267 Just watched the Frenxh Beauty and the Beast (2014) on Netflix. I liked it. It reminds me of a Patricia Mckillip book - very fairy tale in the original eerie sense.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books at May 27, 2017 09:26 PM (hMwEB)

268 Speaking of dresses, that black number Melania wore today was aces.
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I don't know. I think ace is more of a Fall.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 09:27 PM (nlbfN)

269 Lately my only movie-watching has been on yutube, Russian WWII-related movies. Interest in the topic, and language practice. One nice "small" movie (simple, small scope and story) I found was "Road to Berlin" (a ridiculous title, as it has nothing to do with the movie except in the most general sense).

The "Sftrafbat" (penal battalion) TV series, 11 parts, was actually quite good, and interesting for the unromantic view of Soviet realities. Production values nothing like Band of Brothers, but sort of the same vibe and idea.

Got half-way through a fairly recent movie about "Lady Death" (Pavlichenko, top Soviet female sniper) before some computer glitch, will find that again (actress playing Pavlichenko is decidely easy on the eyes and the PU scope).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:28 PM (QDnY+)

270 252 Cabin Boy. Now there was a stinker.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:18 PM (iHjB5)

++++

It made me laugh. But, I didn't go pay to see it in a theater, just watched on cable. But, that was what, 20 years ago. I was more easily amused in my youth.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 09:28 PM (R+30W)

271 I find deeper meaning in The World's End in every viewing. My latest theory is that Gary King actually died in his suicide attempt (spoiler) and is given a last opportunity to be the hero to his friends.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 27, 2017 09:29 PM (wRCZ1)

272 My mother tells me that I hid under the seats for the last few minutes of Creature From the Black Lagoon. She never got tired of reminding me of that. Even after I grew to be 2 feet taller than her. I would do bad things to hear her taunt me again.

Posted by: goon at May 27, 2017 09:29 PM (EaQ6/)

273 And if they're out of 80s movies to remake, they can start on early 90s films...I'm thinking Jerky Boys.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 27, 2017 09:30 PM (wRCZ1)

274 John Wick

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 27, 2017 09:31 PM (Uxokn)

275 1
Every time I go to the movies, which isn't often, there's 10-15 minutes of trailers. It's really annoying.

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 07:22 PM (0mRoj)

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"Previews" were always my favorite part of the experience. That was before they tended to blow my eardrums out. Plus they tended to be better than the movie itself.

Posted by: Javems at May 27, 2017 09:32 PM (yOqwj)

276 Andrews AFB is in Colorado???

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 09:32 PM (nlbfN)

277 I drank a whole bottle of wine. Now I feel fat.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 09:33 PM (CNHr1)

278 I am not interested in seeing Richard Melville Hall's penis, not even on a wheeled hauling apparatus.

Posted by: A Big White Whale What Speaks English And All at May 27, 2017 09:33 PM (SVttD)

279
Not too shabby a remake for the Moby Dick trailer, TJM.

Hardware Wars (197 -- You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss six bucks goodbye!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 27, 2017 09:33 PM (+8Yuj)

280 Heh, Judge Piro talking FLOTUS fashion.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:33 PM (GsAUU)

281 Andrews AFB is in Colorado???
Posted by: andycanuck at May




that took too much work to enjoy.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:34 PM (cPsPa)

282 Hey everybody. Oh boy, another movie thread!

Been wanting to tell people about this upcoming documentary that played at Cannes. It's a bio of a living person, Leon Vitale, who was Stanley Kubrick's personal assistant from 1980 (when he was shooting The Shining) to his death in 1999.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6851066/

Turns out, Stanley was *not* an easy man to work for, though he could be a kind man at times. Extremely demanding, and he wanted/needed Vitale there 24/7/365.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2017 09:34 PM (eMKNe)

283 Well, it is kinda sad when King Kong gets rabies at the end and threatens the family.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 09:34 PM (nlbfN)

284 Worst movie I ever saw in the theater? Cutthroat Island.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:09 PM


Me too. We're in the "I actually bought a ticket to CI" club, the few, the regretful. It was lame. However, I don't mind it much now. It has a cheesy bad movie charm that holds up pretty well today, despite it's lameness. It says more about today's movie fare than it does about CI, though.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:34 PM (lmIoG)

285 "but I don't wanna' be president"

Cannery Row.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 09:35 PM (6qmBU)

286 The old guy didn't know the meta-joke, that Team America was Thunderbirds on a Michael Bay scale. The photography is beautiful and Bill Pope is a famous DP. It should be. If it isn't gorgeous, then people should stay home.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 09:24 PM (VdICR)
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I loved it when Parker and Stone said "We didn't do a comedy, we did a Michael Bay movie with puppets!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 09:37 PM (NT3RT)

287 The verdict of the fashion dude on Judge Jeanine is that Melania can pull off the boob belt look.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:37 PM (GsAUU)

288
Well, it is kinda sad when King Kong gets rabies at the end and threatens the family.
Posted by: andycanuck


Old King Yeller

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 27, 2017 09:38 PM (IqV8l)

289 259 ... I have most of the Aubrey/Maturin series but have only read the first one (and loved it). I would be further along if I didn't keep getting side tracked with CS Lewis, Tolkien, Canterbury Tales and similar low trash. :-)

A side benefit has been discovering books of seafaring terms that are a delight on their own. "A Sea of Words" and "The Sailor's Word-Book" by Admiral Smyth published in 1867 are gems, especially the latter.

Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 09:38 PM (V+03K)

290 Well, it is kinda sad when King Kong Keith Olbermann gets rabies at the end and threatens the family.
Posted by: andycanuck


FIFY.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2017 09:38 PM (eMKNe)

291 Well, it is kinda sad when King Kong gets rabies at the end and threatens the family.
Posted by: andycanuck



you left out the part about how he owes the russian mob money and he is trying to start a rap career while his billionaire father is running for governor.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:39 PM (cPsPa)

292 Steve McQueen is still the epitome of Cool.

Talked my traditional mom to seeing The Sand Pebbles when we were young. She dragged us out right after the coolie in the gears scene. I was crushed.

Somehow word got around us grammar school boys that The Great Escape would be on regular TV in two parts, on two nights. It was epic!

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 27, 2017 09:39 PM (pV/54)

293 Yeah, the final scene when King Kong jumps into the volcano is a tear-jerker.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:39 PM (GsAUU)

294 Well, it is kinda sad when King Kong Keith Olbermann gets rabies at the end and threatens the family.
Posted by: andycanuck



that was not a movie it was a documentary.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:40 PM (cPsPa)

295 I must be an odd one. I prefer the Horatio Hornblower movies over the Master and Commander movie. (Well, at least the 3 best Hornblower movies.) M&H just never grabbed me like the tv movies did...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 27, 2017 09:40 PM (7aeqx)

296 No one would cry over Keith, and viewers would have wanted it in the film's first five minutes and not the last!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 09:41 PM (nlbfN)

297 The verdict of the fashion dude on Judge Jeanine is that Melania can pull off the boob belt look.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:37 PM (GsAUU)



The Trumps toured the Middle East and Europe showing the world how America does it best.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 09:41 PM (6qmBU)

298 A russell Crowe movie that was surprisingly good, was "The Nice Guys". Bonus for having Keith Fucking David in it.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:42 PM (lmIoG)

299 I think someone told Frank Langella in Cutthroat Island: "Frank, are you gonna let Gary Oldman have all the fun? Chew that scenery as if your life depended on it!"

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:42 PM (iHjB5)

300 I was crushed.
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So was the first engineering coolie!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 09:43 PM (nlbfN)

301 Sand Pebbles was great. As was, of course, The Great Escape.

Famous Hollywood figures who in real life were not far from the Malmedy massacre depicted in the movie? Mel Brooks, and ...... forget the other one. Both caught up in the Bulge.

And it really was closer to another village, not the town of Malmedy, but thus it was first termed and thus shall always be known (well, to the extent that any of our now routinely ignored or scrubbed history is "known" any longer ....).


Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:43 PM (QDnY+)

302 Not to be forgetting "The Getaway".

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 09:43 PM (6qmBU)

303 Another vote for Horatio Hornblower. The first two series are excellent.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:44 PM (iHjB5)

304 Master & Commander is a mash-up of two of something like seventeen 350 page novels. By necessity a lot gets left out.

There's a lot about the doctor character that's left out that I won't reveal.

Read the books!

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 27, 2017 09:44 PM (pV/54)

305 Nice touch, if true (meaning if it means what it sounds like, and was unusual by recent practice): Trump speaks to US troops instead of doing a post-summit press conference.

I believe "heh" is the appropriate internet term here.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:45 PM (QDnY+)

306 I think someone told Frank Langella in Cutthroat Island: "Frank, are you gonna let Gary Oldman have all the fun? Chew that scenery as if your life depended on it!"


Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:42 PM


LOL. Try watching it again and just embrace the suck. It's a lot of fun!

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:45 PM (lmIoG)

307 "Somehow word got around us grammar school boys that
The Great Escape would be on regular TV in two parts, on two nights. It
was epic!

Posted by: Ignoramus "

They just located one of the tunnels with underground radar / sonar a year or so ago.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 27, 2017 09:45 PM (w+Jhj)

308
301 Sand Pebbles was great. As was, of course, The Great Escape.

Famous Hollywood figures who in real life were not far from the Malmedy massacre depicted in the movie? Mel Brooks, and ...... forget the other one. Both caught up in the Bulge.

And it really was closer to another village, not the town of Malmedy, but thus it was first termed and thus shall always be known (well, to the extent that any of our now routinely ignored or scrubbed history is "known" any longer ....).


Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:43 PM (QDnY+)






Charles Durning.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 09:46 PM (quw2O)

309
Trailers these days are more an annoyance than anything because (1) way, way too fooking loud in the theatres and (2) there are some marketing dicks who make them unskippable on the DVD or Blu-Ray releases.

That said, another perfect trailer -- https://youtu.be/mkxQ6HYDwIA

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 27, 2017 09:47 PM (+8Yuj)

310 298 A russell Crowe movie that was surprisingly good, was "The Nice Guys". Bonus for having Keith Fucking David in it.
Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:42 PM (lmIoG)

--Speaking of The Thing . . .

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:47 PM (GsAUU)

311 They just located one of the tunnels with underground radar / sonar a year or so ago.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May




would be really cool if they found those stalag 13 tunnel complexes.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:48 PM (cPsPa)

312 259
>>I once heard Master and Commander described as the perfect movie
for middle aged white guys. As one of those (OK, I was middle aged when
the remark was made), I have to agree. I really enjoy that movie. I
watch it at least once a year. Wish there had been more of the
franchise.



If you liked the movie, read the books. That should entertain you for the next couple years.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2017 09:21 PM (/tuJf)
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My Dad was a big fan of the "Admiral Hornblower" books. Gregory Peck played the Admiral in a movie or two coincidentally.

Posted by: Javems at May 27, 2017 09:48 PM (yOqwj)

313 I always figured the Colonial Marines weren't exactly the top of the totem pole in the miltiary, that they were given substandard gear and not the best and brightest recruits

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 09:48 PM (39g3+)

314 There's a show on Axis TV called Nothing But Trailers.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 09:49 PM (IDPbH)

315 I always figured the Colonial Marines weren't exactly the top of the totem pole in the miltiary, that they were given substandard gear and not the best and brightest recruits
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May




yeah but seems really inefficient to send a really expensive ship on a really long trip with a bunch of submorons. you would think the corporation would want some ex sof quality private contractors to handle those situations. or at least morons.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:50 PM (cPsPa)

316 --Speaking of The Thing . . .


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:47 PM


Always up for a "Thing" convo! Though I fear we're gonna get stomped. I rate The Thing on par with Alien. It's better in some aspects.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:51 PM (lmIoG)

317 AshevilleRob - Tom, Dick, or Harry?

A few years ago an old guy of the appropriate vintage came into the museum wearing a P-47 hat. I laughingly said "hope you weren't shot down" (P-47's legendary toughness/capacity for sustaining battle damage and still flying) - he laughed and said he *had* been shot down. March (?) 1945, just in time for an "easy" two months at one of the camps near the one depicted in Great Escape.

He said the long-term POWs gave him quite a bit of s**t - by the time he got there, Fritz was everyone's friend, Red Cross rations were all coming out of storage, because the Allies were within a hundred miles, and the krauts all knew how the game was going to turn out.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:51 PM (QDnY+)

318 Mister Roberts on TMC at 9:30pm.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 09:52 PM (IDPbH)

319 I always figured the Colonial Marines weren't exactly the top of the totem pole in the miltiary, that they were given substandard gear and not the best and brightest recruits


Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 09:48 PM

Yep, It got from the story that they were not used to a challenge. "It's a bug hunt".

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:53 PM (lmIoG)

320 Always up for a "Thing" convo! Though I fear we're gonna get stomped. I rate The Thing on par with Alien. It's better in some aspects.
Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:51 PM (lmIoG)

--IMHO it's better, period. Maybe not in SFX, but in suspense no question.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:53 PM (GsAUU)

321 Thanks ITC! The info was in "Snow and Steel", a history of the Bulge I recommend.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:54 PM (QDnY+)

322
303 Another vote for Horatio Hornblower. The first two series are excellent.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:44 PM (iHjB5)


Agreed.

The Sand Pebbles was where I recall first hearing the phrase "It's his rice bowl" to refer to someone's not altogether necessary "job".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 27, 2017 09:54 PM (+8Yuj)

323 "AshevilleRob - Tom, Dick, or Harry?"

I'd have to find the article again. The Germans found Tom, and they stopped working on one (and salvaged shoring timbers, etc.) to put all of their effort into finishing the other remaining one but I can't remember which.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 27, 2017 09:56 PM (w+Jhj)

324 Dang, Kat Timpf has bony arms.

She needs to get knocked up.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:57 PM (GsAUU)

325 >>Master & Commander is a mash-up of two of something like seventeen 350 page novels. By necessity a lot gets left out.


Just 2 of the 20 really. The whole series has much more. Much.

This is what pisses me off about Hollywood. This is a ready made series, a great one with interesting characters and a rich story, and instead they remake Ghostbusters with girlzzz.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2017 09:57 PM (/tuJf)

326
315 I always figured the Colonial Marines weren't exactly the top of the totem pole in the miltiary, that they were given substandard gear and not the best and brightest recruits
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May




yeah but seems really inefficient to send a really expensive ship on a really long trip with a bunch of submorons. you would think the corporation would want some ex sof quality private contractors to handle those situations. or at least morons.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:50 PM (cPsPa)







I always got the impression that the whole rescue/recon was a semi-rogue operation, dreamed up by Burke using whatever assets he could scrape together from the company and the Colonial Administration without attracting too much attention.

In fact, the company as a whole is pretty much unaware of what's going on. He admits as much later in the film, when he talks about how if he made it a major security situation, then EVERYONE would get involved, and there'd be no exclusive rights for anyone. He was planning on doing the whole operation on the sly, and then presenting the alien to the company and getting a fat bonus.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 09:58 PM (quw2O)

327 --IMHO it's better, period. Maybe not in SFX, but in suspense no question.


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:53 PM


I'm inclined to agree. I saw Alien on the big screen on it's first run and was convinced it could never be topped. Over the years, with repeated viewings, The Thing just keeps climbing higher. I skipped it at the movies at the time, but caught it at a one off screening at the cinema a few years ago. Holy shit! I wish I wasn't so cynical about remaking Hawks' flich at the time. What a masterpiece.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:59 PM (lmIoG)

328 The Thing. Best suspense movie ever. Period.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 10:01 PM (CNHr1)

329 I didn't see The Thing for the first time just a few years ago. I caught it on VHS back in the 80's.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:01 PM (lmIoG)

330 I'm inclined to agree. I saw Alien on the big screen on it's first run and was convinced it could never be topped. Over the years, with repeated viewings, The Thing just keeps climbing higher. I skipped it at the movies at the time, but caught it at a one off screening at the cinema a few years ago. Holy shit! I wish I wasn't so cynical about remaking Hawks' flich at the time. What a masterpiece.
Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:59 PM (lmIoG)

--Not sure if you've seen Stranger Things (and given the libtardism of the cast/crew, I would understand if you never did), but a lot of it is a big homage to the 1981 The Thing.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:02 PM (GsAUU)

331 Nigel Farage coming up on Gutfeld.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:03 PM (GsAUU)

332 The Thing. Best suspense movie ever. Period.


Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 10:01 PM


And just as good as Alien at doing characterization, but with 12 instead of just 7. It gets massive bonus points for that.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:05 PM (lmIoG)

333
327 --IMHO it's better, period. Maybe not in SFX, but in suspense no question.


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:53 PM


I'm inclined to agree. I saw Alien on the big screen on it's first run and was convinced it could never be topped. Over the years, with repeated viewings, The Thing just keeps climbing higher. I skipped it at the movies at the time, but caught it at a one off screening at the cinema a few years ago. Holy shit! I wish I wasn't so cynical about remaking Hawks' flich at the time. What a masterpiece.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:59 PM (lmIoG)








Funny thing, it's pretty much the only Carpenter film that really stands the test of time. MAYBE Big Trouble in Little China, but as much as I love BTiLC, it's a little dated. It's Carpenter's music score that drags it down.

On the other hand, Morricone's score for The Thing is masterful.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 10:06 PM (quw2O)

334 258
U must, as a man go to those screenings and threat to sue and act upon it.
Posted by: Me at May 27, 2017 09:20 PM (idhyN)


What if I don't want to see Wonder Woman?

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 10:06 PM (sdi6R)

335 Worst movie I ever saw in the theater? Cutthroat Island.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:09 PM

Me too. We're in the "I actually bought a ticket to CI" club, the few, the regretful. It was lame. However, I don't mind it much now...
Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:34

Worst movie I ever saw in the theater? It was some POS Uwe Boll did w/ Meat Loaf, Micheal Masen and Sir Ben Kingsley. Don't recall the
name and it was so shitty I won't be bothered to look up the name.

OK, I gave in cause I wanted to know if anyone else saw this...it was BloodRayne. Wife was a big Meat Loaf fan so we saw it in limited release.

Yeah, it was limited for a reason. I understand Uwe Boll is usually crappy, only movie of his I've seen, but I'll buy that.

Posted by: Farmer at May 27, 2017 10:06 PM (o/90i)

336
Worst movie I ever saw in the theater? Anchorman 2

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 27, 2017 10:07 PM (+8Yuj)

337 In fact, the company as a whole is pretty much unaware of what's going on. He admits as much later in the film, when he talks about how if he made it a major security situation, then EVERYONE would get involved, and there'd be no exclusive rights for anyone. He was planning on doing the whole operation on the sly, and then presenting the alien to the company and getting a fat bonus.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 09:58 PM (quw2O)
---
Hmmm...very astute.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 10:07 PM (NT3RT)

338 --Not sure if you've seen Stranger Things (and given the libtardism of the cast/crew, I would understand if you never did), but a lot of it is a big homage to the 1981 The Thing.


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:02 PM


Really? I'll keep on eye open for it.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:07 PM (lmIoG)

339 OK, I gave in cause I wanted to know if anyone else saw this...it was BloodRayne. Wife was a big Meat Loaf fan so we saw it in limited release.

Yeah, it was limited for a reason. I understand Uwe Boll is usually crappy, only movie of his I've seen, but I'll buy that.


Posted by: Farmer at May 27, 2017 10:06 PM


Bloodrayne?? I LOVE Bloodrayne. That is Uwe Boll's bad movie Citizen Kane. It's sucktastic!

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:09 PM (lmIoG)

340 The ending of The Thing also leaves you in suspense, but not in a gulling way.

It's great storytelling.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:09 PM (GsAUU)

341
ONT is NOOD

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 10:10 PM (quw2O)

342 Nigel Farage has such a fucking cool accent.

He should do a cameo as a villain (ideally in a Bind flick), just to piss libtards off royally.

--and as Greg just said, he's apparently a FNC contributor now, so I look forward to more of him on screen.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:12 PM (GsAUU)

343
41 That mummy's girlfriend is hawt.
Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2017 07:41 PM (zLDYs)


And a former professional figure skater with substance abuse issues: Oksana Baiul.

Finally!

* crosses that off list of bad puns he'd been waiting to use for years *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 27, 2017 10:13 PM (+8Yuj)

344 On the other hand, Morricone's score for The Thing is masterful.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 10:06 PM


Arguably the most effective score in a movie, ever.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:15 PM (lmIoG)

345 The ending of The Thing also leaves you in suspense, but not in a gulling way.

It's great storytelling.


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:09 PM


Absolutely. Love the grim finale. "None of us is getting out of here alive. But... neither is that thing."

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:17 PM (lmIoG)

346 I couldn't find the exact trailer for "Paprika" that I first saw on the internet.

But, it was awesome. Almost an emotionally moving experience by itself.

Here's something that's close:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anu2IrsUlVs


but the trailer I saw used this song- "The Girl in the Byakkoya" throughout-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMc2EW6Pmkk


Too bad the movie couldn't live up the the trailer.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 27, 2017 10:22 PM (9q7Dl)

347 I always figured the Colonial Marines weren't
exactly the top of the totem pole in the miltiary, that they were given
substandard gear and not the best and brightest recruits
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 09:48 PM (39g3+)


In a way they are the ones that get shipped out, live in horrible conditions and get to come home to meet their brothers' grand-children.

The British colonial forces and the East Indian Company troops had similar issues: any promotion meant little in the regular service and in society in general, and even if the pay was better, you still ran the risk of dying of disease and prickly heat and poisonous snakes while you got to put down native riots that affected tea shipments, or some such.
So they got the men who were issues, and officers that tended to be no-hopers or were insanely ambitious.

My take on the Colonial Marines was that by this time they really didn't care who they shot, they just wanted to go home.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 10:24 PM (mkDpn)

348 Most famous recent movie that had a shitty, shitty trailer and yet was a damn good film... Guardians of the Galaxy 1.

The trailer made me actually not want to see the movie, which I now regret missing in the theater.

Go to the YouTube page and you will see lots of comments about this - especially with the early comments about how much it's going to suck. It's an object lesson in missing the freakin' mark. They made it look goofy and unserious, which unfortunately only tells half the story.

Posted by: Mega at May 27, 2017 10:25 PM (rv0Fo)

349 In a way they are the ones that get shipped out, live in horrible conditions and get to come home to meet their brothers' grand-children.

The British colonial forces and the East Indian Company troops had similar issues: any promotion meant little in the regular service and in society in general, and even if the pay was better, you still ran the risk of dying of disease and prickly heat and poisonous snakes while you got to put down native riots that affected tea shipments, or some such.
So they got the men who were issues, and officers that tended to be no-hopers or were insanely ambitious.

My take on the Colonial Marines was that by this time they really didn't care who they shot, they just wanted to go home.


Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 10:24 PM


Yeah. My take on the colonial marines (Foster's book might have elaborated on this, I can't quite remember) is that they weren't exactly crack troops and were used to only minor inconveniences, generally... despite loading up for serious encounters.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:32 PM (lmIoG)

350 TJM... nice job on Moby trailer. It was very well done. Love these threads, especially that they happen Saturday night so I can hit the comments on them on Sunday morning instead of reading politics... I would seriously miss them if they stopped.

I really like your analysis posts, like the one from the first couple weeks where you discussed theme, plot, character, etc. Oddly enough I could not have disagreed with your order more (I demand characters and plot), but found the post fascinating nonetheless. You and I also have very divergent tastes in movies, which would actually follow from that. Future post ideas - I would love to see more analysis. For example:

- why certain famous scenes work so well
- how stories are told strictly through visual means - blocking, lighting, tight vs wide scope, etc
- the perils and importance of exposition, and how good movies navigate around them, and bad movies don't
- timeshifting - why/how/when viewers need to see certain things happening and can skip others (for example showing a character driving to a location vs just appearing there in the next scene)

Hopefully some food for thought for future threads!!!!

Posted by: Mega at May 27, 2017 10:35 PM (rv0Fo)

351 "What if I dont wanna see Wonder Woman?"

Irrelevant, this is taking it for the team. The left works as one, that's why they win. We need to take a cue. They cannot be allowed to do this, period.

Posted by: Me at May 27, 2017 10:54 PM (idhyN)

352 Nice thread, TheJames. I appreciate your work on these.

I recall at least one trailer that put me off the movie. I took my son to see some movie, and a trailer before it was for Polar Express, a Christmas movie. It was 98 degrees outside and I don't much care for Christmas stories anyway except for the classics. Especially in July.

The trailer was so bombastic and overwrought it almost made me mad. In the short gap of silence between that trailer and the next I said to my kid "I hate Christmas". People around us started cracking up.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 11:15 PM (Uysai)

353 Video games have trailers now too.

Starcraft 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVtXac6if14

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 27, 2017 11:24 PM (V8zw+)

354 My dad went to see Jackass: The Movie solely based on a commercial where a midget kicked himself in the face. He didn't ask me about it. About 15 mins. into the movie he walked out.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 27, 2017 11:35 PM (V8zw+)

355 logprof, there are two versions of most of the Aubrey / Maturin series on Audible. I went with the Stephen Vance version, but the other one seems well rated, if slower paced.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 27, 2017 11:52 PM (V8zw+)

356 355 logprof, there are two versions of most of the Aubrey / Maturin series on Audible. I went with the Stephen Vance version, but the other one seems well rated, if slower paced.
Posted by: goodluckduck at May 27, 2017 11:52 PM (V8zw+)

--Thanks! I'll have to check them out. . . .

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 12:11 AM (GsAUU)

357 What's the difference between a preview and a trailer? Or is there a difference?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 28, 2017 12:14 AM (LeUrG)

358 Trailer for The Godfather is the strangest I've ever seen. No dialogue, lots of music, and lots of spolers.

Posted by: MikeN at May 28, 2017 12:28 AM (o/eHL)

359 Funny . . . the reason I wasn't around to participate in this thread this evening: I was watching Carpenter's The Thing. It really holds up. Great cast; the amount of character they manage to squeeze into so little dialogue and still keep the movie moving at a fast pace . . . hard to top.

Someone mentioned that Carpenter's other films don't hold up so well. Generally true. But I still enjoy They Live quite a bit.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at May 28, 2017 01:29 AM (H5knJ)

360 What's the difference between a preview and a trailer? Or is there a difference?
------------

They're the same. Previews used to be shown after the main attraction. Hence "trailers".

Posted by: Mega at May 28, 2017 03:12 AM (rv0Fo)

361 Loved the trailer, the movie not so much:

Prometheus
Suicide Squad

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 28, 2017 04:04 AM (v3DL/)

362 TJM - Re Moby Dick trailer: I thought you were trying for a Jaws-ian vibe, with the "slightly foreboding, now it's a jaunty sea adventure, now it's explosive, OMG we're gonna die cuts" trajectory. I might have liked that better than the "slightly foreboding, rising sea shanty, Deadliest Catch outtakes, coffin." I see you were going for art house, though. Not bad.

I've had "Knights of Badassdom" in my queue forever, waiting for the right mood to strike. Hmmm. Your review did not move me to see if any time soon.

Posted by: Gem at May 28, 2017 07:18 AM (uaHyk)

363 And my pet peeve about trailers are ones that basically tell you the whole movie. No point in seeing it if you know the beginning, the middle and the end.

Posted by: Gem at May 28, 2017 07:21 AM (uaHyk)

364 We went to see the latest Fast & Furious movie-the trailers before the movie were 30 MINUTES long.

Posted by: Mike at May 28, 2017 09:07 AM (oGI1N)

365 I'm not so sure that a trailer that gives a lot away is necessarily a bad trailer. For movies based on books, large parts of the audience know going in what is going to happen, but it does't necessarily ruin the film. The same is true of films based on historical events as a general rule. Sometimes the interesting thing about a movie is how and why the characters get from A to B, not A or B themselves.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at May 28, 2017 01:52 PM (H5knJ)

366 The trailer type that is terrible is the one that leaves you bewildered as to what a movie is about. I see thise every now and again; I'm trying to think of an example.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at May 28, 2017 02:04 PM (H5knJ)

367 Your trailer was very well done, and if it was used in 1956 it would have been very well received.

The problem with trailers (and this dates back to the golden years of movies) is that they seem to adopt a standard template that they beat to death. That includes the pattern of the narrative and the narrator's themselves. Very few are creative and some purposely mislead the audience about the nature and tone of the movie.


Posted by: Levin at May 28, 2017 07:54 PM (PNwAd)

368 I hate trailers that give away too much of the plot. The worst offender I've experiences was "Wild Things" -- a suspense/thriller with multiple plot twists. The trailer completely gave away most of the twists (not the big one at the end, thankfully, but most of the ones leading up to it). It made no sense.

Posted by: Dodd at May 29, 2017 06:17 PM (If7bJ)

369 Thor. When the camera pans over to Mjolnar right at the end of the trailer it's so cool. I was the only one in the theater that knew what it was about.

Posted by: Larry Geiger at May 30, 2017 09:58 AM (QpgDv)

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