Was a Murdered DNC Official Sending Emails to Wikileaks?

I usually wouldn't give a post such a lurid headline, so full of Intriguingly Dangled Questions, but that's what the media has taught me to do.

There's a little confusion on who the private investigator making these claims is working for. He's frequently represented as the family's private investigator, but they have kinda shot that down (sort of) by clarifying he's being paid by an unnamed third party.

I don't know the truth. Trying to speculate here to see if both stories can have some truth in them: Let me guess he's being paid by a politically-interested third party, and has had some cooperation from the murdered DNC official's family, so he can be said, broadly, to be working "on behalf" of the family, but his actual client is someone else.

The family is distancing themselves from his claims and in fact contradicting them, per Buzzfeed:

The family of murdered Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich on Tuesday strongly rejected reports claiming he had been in contact with WikiLeaks.
"As we've seen through the past year of unsubstantiated claims, we see no facts, we have seen no evidence, we have been approached with no emails and only learned about this when contacted by the press," spokesperson Brad Bauman told BuzzFeed News in an emailed statement.
...
[R]ich's family said in its statement that the private investigator was "paid for by a third party" and under his contract had been "barred from speaking to press" without explicit authorization from the family.

So the family does have a contract with him of some kind, even if he's being paid by someone else. And apparently the PI wasn't supposed to go to the press, by the terms of this contract.

But then, his actual client seems to be someone other than the family.

Rich, 27, was shot and killed early one morning in Washington in July of last year. He had been working on a DNC project trying to make it easier for people to find where to vote on Election Day.
WikiLeaks published thousands of hacked DNC emails soon after Rich's death, and conspiracy theories began to swirl after the organization offered a $20,000 reward for help solving his case. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange then raised further eyebrows when he spoke of Rich's death, saying, "Our whistleblowers go to significant efforts to get us material."
WikiLeaks backed off the claim, saying his statement "should not be taken to imply that Seth Rich was a source for WikiLeaks," nor that his death was connected to the leaked emails.
Police said in response that they believe there is no connection between his death and "his employment at the DNC." Since that time, Rich's family have also said publicly that they believe his death wasn't connected.
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Rich family spokesman Brad Bauman, a Democratic political consultant by trade...

A little convenient. But kudos to Buzzfeed for actually reporting that, which most "Real News Outlets" would have supressed.

...told BuzzFeed News that the Wikileaks story just doesn't add up. Rich's job at the DNC had nothing to do with IT or internal cybersecurity...
Bauman said that evidence tying Rich to Wikileaks has been "nothing but hearsay or the insane rantings of conspiracy theorists."

Well, maybe. But the family seems to be a Democratic one, and maybe they don't like the idea that Seth Rich maybe, possibly could have been a turncoat against the Party.

With the denials out of the way, let's get to the claims. Which have been, as I've noted, largely denied by the family and their Democrat consultant spokesman.

From a local Fox affiliate news station:

t has been almost a year since Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich was murdered in the nation's capital. There have been no solid answers about why he was killed until now.
Rich was shot and killed last July in Northwest D.C and police have suggested the killing in the District's Bloomingdale neighborhood was a botched robbery. However, online conspiracy theories have tied the murder to Rich's work at the DNC.
Just two months shy of the one-year anniversary of Rich's death, FOX 5 has learned there is new information that could prove these theorists right.
Rod Wheeler, a private investigator hired by the Rich family, suggests there is tangible evidence on Rich's laptop that confirms he was communicating with WikiLeaks prior to his death.
Now, questions have been raised on why D.C. police, the lead agency on this murder investigation for the past ten months, have insisted this was a robbery gone bad when there appears to be no evidence to suggest that.
Wheeler, a former D.C. police homicide detective, is running a parallel investigation into Rich’s murder. He said he believes there is a cover-up and the police department has been told to back down from the investigation.
"The police department nor the FBI have been forthcoming,” said Wheeler. “They haven't been cooperating at all. I believe that the answer to solving his death lies on that computer, which I believe is either at the police department or either at the FBI. I have been told both.”
When we asked Wheeler if his sources have told him there is information that links Rich to Wikileaks, he said, “Absolutely. Yeah. That's confirmed."

Now here's the thing: Wheeler is not claiming he saw these communications with Wikileaks with his own eyes. He's saying he's got a source in the police department who says he saw such evidence on his computer.

So this relies on anonymous sources we can't talk to, alleged evidence we can't see, and innuendo that as of yet no one can prove, but merely suggest.

Sounds a lot like the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory the press is pushing with all its might.

A few stray thoughts:

1. I don't understand the motive for the murder, if we're talking about revenge-for-the-leaks as the motive. The leaks were already leaked. Further, this guy had committed a crime, so he could himself be arrested. Seems to me that if you wanted to punish the guy for his suggested betrayal, you could do so quite lawfully, and without all the dangers of an assassination.

2. On the other hand, I don't understand why a "botched robbery" results in a homicide, and yet the robber leaves behind the guy's wallet. That's real botch, isn't it?

3. And yet I also don't understand that if the instrument of this betrayal -- this guy's computer -- had juicy tidbits on it and such (which I'm sure people are hypothesizing), why would the successful assassin not take the computer or bleach-bit it?

Why was it allowed to fall into police hands, with the alleged communications between Rich and Wikileaks still on it?

4. It is strange and suggestive that Wikileaks head Julian Assange said of Rich's death, "Our whistleblowers go to significant efforts to get us material."

Maybe he was lying, and maybe he's trying to cover up the Russian connection.

5. If a botched robbery is hard to believe, so is a botched assassination -- Seth Rich was apparently still alive when he reached the hospital. I don't think he regained consciousness and could not provide any clues in his own death, but an assassin really wouldn't have left that up to chance, would he have? If you've come to kill someone, you kill him -- you don't injure him badly and then leave it up to God and emergency medicine whether he survives or not.

6. I find the Democrat spokesman's claim that Seth Rich did not work in cybersecurity, and had "no access to these domains," to be one of the silliest things I've ever heard. If the movies have taught me anything -- and I think on this point they're accurate -- you don't need to have, yourself, access to the "domains" you want to be a key operative in a hack. You just need to have physical access to the system to be hacked. You can then install some malware or deliberately click on a Trojan image that you've been told is in fact a Trojan image. That provides you the cover of just saying "I had no idea that was a Trojan" if anything is traced to you.

Anyway, the fact that this guy wasn't on the security end of things and did not have "access" to these restricted domains means nothing -- hackers themselves aren't working for DNC cybersecurity, and they don't have authorized access to sensitive domains either.

And yet -- there they are. Hacking away. Sometimes all it takes is a thumbdrive stuck into the right port.

I don't know what to think. All sounds a bit conspiracy theoryish to me, but apparently that's what "Real News" now consists of, so there you have it.

Pulitzer me.

#DemocracyDiesInDarkness

#TheTruthAndFactsAreMoreImportantThanEver

Update: Citing a "federal investigator" (unnamed), Fox says it can corroborate Wheeler's claim:

Rod Wheeler, a retired Washington homicide detective and Fox News contributor investigating the case on behalf of the Rich family, made the WikiLeaks claim, which was corroborated by a federal investigator who spoke to Fox News.

Well we're going to have to get to the bottom of that, then, with Congressional subpoenas and all the rest of it -- and I expect Adam Schiff and Jake Tapper to be fulsomely on board with that.

The Democrats are committed to getting to the bottom of this Hacking of the Election, right?

Posted by: Ace at 04:41 PM

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1 Emails? or FTP?

Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at May 16, 2017 04:43 PM (ukNFU)

2 Innuendo? Is this a about Reggie and the JEF?

Posted by: Bruce at May 16, 2017 04:43 PM (8ikIW)

3 I'm sure this will calm things down.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 16, 2017 04:44 PM (kTF2Z)

4 "I don't know the truth. Trying to speculate here to see if both stories can have some truth in them"

go on ace, find your own "truth" - its quite the popular thing among progressives

Posted by: chelsea danger at May 16, 2017 04:44 PM (brM/S)

5

dunno

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 16, 2017 04:44 PM (fceHP)

6 Fox News said they talked to someone who corroborated Wheeler: "Rod Wheeler, a retired Washington homicide detective and Fox News contributor investigating the case on behalf of the Rich family, made the WikiLeaks claim, which was corroborated by a federal investigator who spoke to Fox News"

Posted by: wte9 at May 16, 2017 04:45 PM (xYr9U)

7 *steals sideways glance at Hillary*

Posted by: wth at May 16, 2017 04:45 PM (HgMAr)

8 The family didn't really contradcit anything. For example they say he wasn't emailing Wikipedia, and if there's evidence he was, then emails can be hacked and faked. Which is to say: we don't want him to be the guy so we are coming up with reasons it isn't true in some lawyerly technical sense to deny it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2017 04:46 PM (39g3+)

9 I can't believe I read the whoooole thing. (buuurp)

But srsly, thanks for laying out the facts as we know them, Ace. Lots to chew on there.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 16, 2017 04:46 PM (ul9CR)

10 I'm betting on Iranians.

Posted by: Colossus of Ben Rhodes at May 16, 2017 04:47 PM (VFhMt)

11 Do I know? No. Would I put a hit on a leaker as something beyond the Clintons? No.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 16, 2017 04:47 PM (0mRoj)

12 Not a scintilla of a scandal

Posted by: Strobe at May 16, 2017 04:48 PM (gbWkA)

13 In a just world heads would roll over this, but here in 2017, I just don't see it getting that much traction.

Posted by: IP at May 16, 2017 04:48 PM (UmSfZ)

14 Sad to say, but amb. Stevens family, longtime DC Democrat insiders didn't want anyone to use hillary getting g their son killed for politics,so.....they may be denying it for reasons other than believing Seth wasn't the leaker.

Posted by: lizzy ' s phone at May 16, 2017 04:48 PM (d1VP+)

15
I read today that someone has thrown another $100,000 on the reward pile.

That may cause Hillary to throw some more chips in.

Damn. I wish I lived in the country I used to live in. Where the FBI put the bad people in jail.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 16, 2017 04:49 PM (HTdUD)

16 Ya, you all come around eventually, but we are always classified as *crazy* until we are once again proven right. Again.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 16, 2017 04:49 PM (6Ll1u)

17 It's not the scope of the evidence, it's the seriousness of the charge...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 04:49 PM (O2RFr)

18 The wikileaks info clearly came from someone who was in the DNC, and whose primary concern was the DNC collaborating with the Clinton campaign to defeat Bernie Sanders.

Seth Rich was in the DNC, and fits the profile of a Sanders supporter.

He was murdered in the time frame where these leaks were really starting to hurt Clinton - remember the "Russia hacked the election meme" was still to be born - and when there was a broad concern that the Bernie Bros would sit out the election if not go to Trump based on the activities of the Clinton campaign.

There is *NO* question that the Clinton campaign and the DNC had clear motivation to do something about the leaks - hell we have a Podesta email saying just that. And the stakes were extreme, from their perspective Hillary was probably going to win, but if the leaks continued it would cost them the Senate and House...

That certainly doesn't prove they were behind the murder, nor that Seth was the leaker, but what we know now is *EXACTLY* what we would know if this was the case.

No other scenario matches the observed facts:

Seth Rich was not robbed, and no other people motivated to do harm to him have been identified.

Wikileaks has identified their source as essentially someone who fits the profile of Seth Rich.

We don't have enough to arrest someone, but we have more then enough info to began a real investigation.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 16, 2017 04:49 PM (eSx+E)

19 So contracts are contracts again.

Posted by: NCKate at May 16, 2017 04:49 PM (KDsfS)

20 suggests there is tangible evidence on Rich's laptop that confirms he was communicating with WikiLeaks prior to his death.

but the guy doesn't have the laptop (hasn't seen the laptop?). The FBI has the laptop.

and the guy is repeating what an inside source told him.

Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at May 16, 2017 04:50 PM (c+z1/)

21 Pulitzer photo op: accept with the left, shake with the right.

Posted by: 80's music fan at May 16, 2017 04:50 PM (2snAa)

22 Not "murdered."

"Assassinated."

As in "some sources claim that Rich was assassinated."

"Which sources?"

"Confidential ones."

Posted by: filbert at May 16, 2017 04:50 PM (s5o+q)

23 I don't understand the motive for the murder, if we're talking about revenge-for-the-leaks as the motive. The leaks were already leaked. Further, this guy had committed a crime, so he could himself be arrested. Seems to me that if you wanted to punish the guy for his suggested betrayal, you could do so quite lawfully, and without all the dangers of an assassination.

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Intimidation of future leakers.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 16, 2017 04:50 PM (kTF2Z)

24 Also. Wikileaks may be backing away a little from stating outright that Seth Rich was one of their guys (there were two apparently), but they have said repeatedly that the source for the Podesta emails is "disgruntled DNC staffers" upset at the Sanders treatment by the party.

In no way are the Russians remotely involved, even if they did hack Hillary's server. This stuff is not Hillary sourced. Its Podesta. They are two separate and unconnected stories. There is no connection.

Further, Wikileaks put out a $25,000 reward for the capture of the killer of Seth Rich which is a pretty strange and random thing to do if he had nothing to do with them or their emails.

And finally, a family claiming they didn't hire this dude, he's not theirs.... but that he signed a contract saying he had to do what they said... is a bit odd, to say the least. One of these things is not like the other.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2017 04:50 PM (39g3+)

25 Hey, peddling unsubstantiated bullshit is the new normal. Just ask the New York Times, CNN and the Washington Post.

In a related story, Keith Olbermann buggers puppies and eats senior citizens.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 16, 2017 04:51 PM (ppaKI)

26 >>>Intimidation of future leakers.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

...

arrest and jail does that too, right?

Posted by: ace at May 16, 2017 04:51 PM (8rNrN)

27 Intimidation of future leakers.

Actually Podesta said as much in one of the leaked e-mails...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 04:52 PM (O2RFr)

28 Don't look at me! I was walking in the woods that day.

Posted by: Hillary's Liver at May 16, 2017 04:52 PM (gbWkA)

29 We need to get to the bottom of this.

We need an independent prosecutor.

A comprehensive solution.

Bipartisan agreement.

It was Russians.

Posted by: wth at May 16, 2017 04:52 PM (HgMAr)

30 The JFK assassination was just a botched robbery.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 16, 2017 04:52 PM (IqV8l)

31 :::sigh:::

I wished for a nood in the last thread.
Careful what you wish for.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 16, 2017 04:52 PM (RRmoB)

32 remember when hillary considered droning assange

this wasnt about these leaks

it was a message to the next leaker and perhaps even assange himself

Posted by: sound awake at May 16, 2017 04:53 PM (Ea3yB)

33 It was Russians.
Posted by: wth at May 16, 2017 04:52 PM (HgMAr)

I heard the wild-haired dude from "Ancient Aliens" is planning a spinoff series:

Ancient Russians

"Did ancient Russians build the Pyramids?"

Posted by: filbert at May 16, 2017 04:53 PM (s5o+q)

34 There was an anonymous 4chan post floating around Twitter this morning from someone who claimed to be in the know at the DNC. They said that Podesta came up with the idea of killing Rich, that the Clintons had final approval, and SEIU did the dirty work. The DC police chief helped with the coverup because he's part of Podesta's pedophile ring.

I don't know if I believe much of that (it's a little bit too good how it interlocks several conspiracy theories about the Dems) but it's certainly out there.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2017 04:53 PM (3J/LN)

35 I don't understand the motive for the murder
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Intimidation of future leakers.

Well yeah, obviously. I mean killing someone to warn off others is hardly a new concept, and it makes that person stop what they are doing and punishes them permanently. Anyone that thinks a political party would never kill to maintain power doesn't understand the stakes in US politics.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2017 04:53 PM (39g3+)

36 I wished for a nood in the last thread.
Careful what you wish for.

You can always go back down to the old thread...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 04:53 PM (O2RFr)

37 arrest and jail does that too, right?

Yeah, but death REALLY intimidates them. An added benefit? No second thoughts.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 16, 2017 04:53 PM (qJhUV)

38

Hacker KimDotCom - believe him or not

Seth was wikileaks DNC source
Seth was killed for that reason
Seth is one of many Clinton victims
Seth is a hero for preventing Clinton

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 16, 2017 04:53 PM (fceHP)

39 No angry ex, dope deal gone bad or loan shark involved?

Posted by: 80's music fan at May 16, 2017 04:54 PM (2snAa)

40 Why have someone murdered? To keep the rest in line.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 16, 2017 04:54 PM (MZcWR)

41 Can't Trump's Justice Dept launch a "real" investigation into this and not rely on DC police?

I mean, a potential political assasination is pretty big league stuff.

I'm someone that gets annoyed at some of the fever swamp stuff on our side, but this looks awfully damning to me.

Posted by: Maritime at May 16, 2017 04:55 PM (QWUwq)

42 Things get more House of Cards every day. Bill is obviously Frank Underwood. However, Hillary is no Claire Underwood. Maybe 2-3 Claire Underwoods.

Posted by: pep at May 16, 2017 04:55 PM (LAe3v)

43 He committed suicide.

Oh, not by the gun, but by crossing the Clintons and the DNC.

2 shots (as the more reputable sources are reporting) in the back, and they didn't take his wallet, or even the gold chain he wore?

Yeah, sure "Botched", just like fast & furious was "Botched" - i.e., "Everything went according to plan, but the plan is not what you were told".

Posted by: West at May 16, 2017 04:55 PM (1Rgee)

44 Trump needs to tell Sessions: "Fuck it. Convene a federal grand jury on Hillary's e-mail server national security violations. Start taking these SOB's down."

Posted by: filbert at May 16, 2017 04:55 PM (s5o+q)

45 There was an anonymous 4chan post floating around Twitter this morning from someone who claimed to be in the know at the DNC. They said that Podesta came up with the idea of killing Rich, that the Clintons had final approval, and SEIU did the dirty work. The DC police chief helped with the coverup because he's part of Podesta's pedophile ring.

I don't know if I believe much of that (it's a little bit too good how it interlocks several conspiracy theories about the Dems) but it's certainly out there.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 16, 2017 04:53 PM (3J/LN)

If only Podesta was having two scoops, maybe this would be a story.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 16, 2017 04:55 PM (fceHP)

46 yo

Posted by: Ralph at May 16, 2017 04:55 PM (8fdt8)

47
Some people say according to unnamed sources who know of someone who possibly knows, hillary definitely had him killed probably maybe. For revenge it is assumed by some people it is said.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 16, 2017 04:56 PM (ODxAs)

48 arrest and jail does that too, right?

Sure, so does kicking them in the nuts or fining them. So does firing them. So does a sternly worded letter from the UN.

Which is the most intimidating and effective?

Before you say 'they'd never get away with it' what's happening right now at this moment? Lets say they did kill him. Will anything ever be done about it? People on this very blog scoff at the very idea that could happen. The protection is hardwired into the crime: nobody wants to think that we're in a place where that could happen and its too conspiratorial to say it could. Hence: its safe.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2017 04:56 PM (39g3+)

49 Well there is more evidence of Dead Rich, DNC, and Leaked Emails than Trump and Russians. So by that standard we clearly need a Special Prosecutor appointed - pronto! Somebody tell Chuck Schumer to ramp up the hysteria a notch or two. It goes to eleven. There's plenty of room left.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 16, 2017 04:56 PM (vV/gB)

50 Lets go back to calling each other names.

Posted by: Strobe at May 16, 2017 04:56 PM (gbWkA)

51 >>>On the other hand, I don't understand why a "botched robbery" results in a homicide, and yet the robber leaves behind the guy's wallet. That's real botch, isn't it?

When the gun goes off, you split. A mugger doesn't retire off one 4AM mugging. You want to remain free to keep mugging.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 16, 2017 04:56 PM (RRmoB)

52 I'm on a roll with my theories today, so here's mine for Seth Rich:

He took the DNC emails, sent them to Wikileaks because he was pissed about what he learned about Hillary/the DNC stealing the nomination from Sanders. Wikileaks hadn't published them yet. The DNC discovered the emails had been taken and someone (*cough* Clinton* cough*) ordered Rich silenced, thinking that would stop the emails (or maybe more damaging info) from being disclosed.

Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2017 04:56 PM (CLKfs)

53 Just a note, if any of you all read Weasel Zippers, his site has been hacked and you get directed to fake download sites.

Stay away till he gets it fixed.

Posted by: Ralph at May 16, 2017 04:57 PM (8fdt8)

54 I am going from memory here, so may be wrong.

Did not Seth Rich have access, or his title, relate to new voter rolls or something for the DNC? It was long written, in the underground of news, that he had hard evidence of fraud. Presumably directed towards keeping the Hag on top vs Sanders.

He was in a bar, in a safe neighborhood, in the wee hours. He was on the phone with his gf who heard talking, he said he was ok. Video shows two men attack him, although the video, I don't think, was ever made public.

It was not a robbery,as stated over and over and oer again.

Rewards were posted. Wikileaks guy alluded, in August, without giving his name, that his whistleblowers know the danger. He was one who offered a reward.

Many of the Wikileaks were from Podesta, leading to much evil about him and many he was associated with. He also groused about the Hag, mentioned ties to the MSM, etc in his emails.

As I said below, twenty minutes after the Seth Rich news was released...which is no surprise to many who do not watch MSM for their news...WaPo released the intel bomb. Always keep in mind that Podesta is now part of WaPo.

But I am sure it is just a Clinton Coincidence, right?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at May 16, 2017 04:57 PM (fq4ih)

55 Wasn't this guy supposed to be a regular heavy drinker? Maybe he pissed off someone at the bar he had just left and they followed him and capped him.

Posted by: NCKate at May 16, 2017 04:57 PM (KDsfS)

56 C'mon, I was hoping for at least one burning skull for this story!

Here is the most important news today on this, from a Fox News report:

"An FBI forensic report of Rich's computer -- generated within 96 hours after Rich's murder -- showed he made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time, the federal source told Fox News.

"'I have seen and read the emails between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks,' the federal investigator told Fox News, confirming the MacFadyen connection. He said the emails are in possession of the FBI, while the stalled case is in the hands of the Washington Police Department.

***

"The federal investigator, who requested anonymity, said 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments between Democratic National Committee leaders, spanning from January 2015 through late May 2016, were transferred from Rich to MacFadyen before May 21."

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at May 16, 2017 04:57 PM (m5dkR)

57

Another reported fence jumper at the White House - reporters on lockdown 4:36 PM - 16 May 2017

security much?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 16, 2017 04:57 PM (fceHP)

58 I am assuming he's been hacked, because site goes to fake sites. Anyone else have this problem

Posted by: Ralph at May 16, 2017 04:58 PM (8fdt8)

59 Rich's job at the DNC had nothing to do with IT or internal cybersecurity...

Why would it have to? If he's leaking info, he wouldn't have to be involved in security, only have access and want to do it.

Prosecuting the guy, Ace, would mean that the DNC/Clintons would have to acknowledge that the emails were authentic, and that insiders knew what they were up to and disgusted by it. That would be going public with it all in the worst, most undeniable way.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 16, 2017 04:58 PM (oVJmc)

60 Well we're going to have to get to the bottom of that, then, with Congressional subpoenas and all the rest of it -- and I expect Adam Schiff and Jake Tapper to be fulsomely on board with that.

The Democrats are committed to getting to the bottom of this Hacking of the Election, right?

This will be grande.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 16, 2017 04:59 PM (fceHP)

61 23 I don't understand the motive for the murder, if we're talking about revenge-for-the-leaks as the motive. The leaks were already leaked. Further, this guy had committed a crime, so he could himself be arrested. Seems to me that if you wanted to punish the guy for his suggested betrayal, you could do so quite lawfully, and without all the dangers of an assassination.
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Intimidation of future leakers.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 16, 2017 04:50 PM (kTF2Z)

Historically phrased as "Pour encourager les autres"

Posted by: West at May 16, 2017 04:59 PM (1Rgee)

62 When the gun goes off, you split. A mugger doesn't retire off one 4AM mugging. You want to remain free to keep mugging.

it takes like 3 seconds to grab the guy's laptop and watch, which is the real problem here: why didn't they take it? Its not impossible the guy was robbed in a low crime area and yet somehow they didn't steal anything, it happens. But its a magnitude less likely than he was offed for what he knew/did, in my book. People just don't want to think that it could happen here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2017 04:59 PM (39g3+)

63 The Russians killed him because they were worried that Wikileaks would expose Trump's collusion with Hillary to win the election.

Yeah. That works.

Posted by: Him at May 16, 2017 04:59 PM (CPk08)

64 After seeing that the PI is claiming his source saw the e-mails, I will say robbery gone wrong and not a hit.

As for robber taking off without anything, look on line for such incidents. they are hardly rare.
This took me 30 seconds to find:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mzzr2v9

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 04:59 PM (m3iiU)

65 If only Podesta was having two scoops, maybe this would be a story.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 16, 2017 04:55 PM (fceHP)

I hear he's more of a "pizza" guy.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 16, 2017 04:59 PM (0mRoj)

66 arrest and jail does that too, right?
Not necessarily. Much higher costs (financial and political), and much higher risks. As well, you jail a guy for leaks, and you give him a platform to talk about the DNC screwing Dear Old Uncle Bernie. If he just drops dead in a park of a failed mugging, then the only people who notice sound like crazy people. Win-win.

Quite simply, if you don't believe the law will ever touch you (proven fact with that cabal) then the only limits on what you will do are your own ethics and convenience. Convenience weighs heavily on Side Evil for this one, and were there enough vestigial ethical traces to not take the risk? I can't say. Lucked out in one hell of a coincidence, if not.

Posted by: Sporkatus at May 16, 2017 04:59 PM (eXSOZ)

67 The family is distancing themselves from his claims

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They're allergic to income tax audits. And house fires.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 16, 2017 05:00 PM (Nwg0u)

68 I thought Seth Rich is the Wikileaks leaker was more or else sotto voce confirmed by Assange yonks ago?

No matter what, I feel terrible for Seth Rich's family. For whatever reason or for no reason at all, he was murdered. What a horror to live with.

Oh broseidon, I'm penciling you in for Gila Monster as your lizard shape shift since CBD is a Komodo Dragon.

*stands by with shovel in case more sand is needed for this thread*

Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at May 16, 2017 05:00 PM (mf5HN)

69 4/5 Career Prosecutors would never file a case in the event of a Botched Robbery

Posted by: James Comey at May 16, 2017 05:00 PM (IQ71s)

70 I've read this story on a lot of different outlets and one said Rich was shot in the back. Doesn't sound like a robbery to me.

Posted by: LexisTexas at May 16, 2017 05:00 PM (2YDX+)

71 I don't understand the motive for the murder, if we're talking about revenge-for-the-leaks as the motive. The leaks were already leaked.

naming names

hidden secrets

more leaks

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 16, 2017 05:00 PM (fceHP)

72 Childburger in Paradise....

Posted by: Hillary! at May 16, 2017 05:00 PM (2qHjF)

73 Not that Julian Assange is some good and decent person, but seeing as how seth Rich is dead, would it be so "unethical" for him to name the source so we could confirm he gave this intel to WikiLeaks as the source and not the Russians? And maybe get someone to look into a possible murder?

Posted by: Maritime at May 16, 2017 05:00 PM (QWUwq)

74 Actually we have no evidence what so ever that the Russians hacked the DNC because the DNC refused to hand over their computers to the FBI. They had an "independent" company investigate. Independent wink, wink, with ties to Hillary....They said it was the Russians...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:01 PM (O2RFr)

75 All that, and then Bernie was a sell-out....Damn! And Obama preached how the Bernie voters parents (gen x) were so cynical and jaded. Indeed. It's a crime what has happened either way.

Posted by: Alice at May 16, 2017 05:01 PM (eLvFT)

76 Could be worse.

We could be talking about men's rompers.

/ht: Instapundit

Posted by: filbert at May 16, 2017 05:01 PM (s5o+q)

77 >>The family is distancing themselves from his claims

They were invited to a family picnic at Ft. Marcy Park by an anonymous caller.

Posted by: James Comey at May 16, 2017 05:01 PM (IQ71s)

78 Seth Rich is just like the reporter in Los Angeles who suddenly ran his car into a tree and died before he put out his expose of the intelligence agencies.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 16, 2017 05:02 PM (6Ll1u)

79 Random murders for no reason are quite frequent in big cities.

Or so we've been told. Seth Rich was a totally random murder for no reason.

Oh, and a botched robbery gone wrong.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2017 05:02 PM (aMV0K)

80 73 Not that Julian Assange is some good and decent person, but seeing as how seth Rich is dead, would it be so "unethical" for him to name the source so we could confirm he gave this intel to WikiLeaks as the source and not the Russians? And maybe get someone to look into a possible murder?
Posted by: Maritime at May 16, 2017 05:00 PM (QWUwq)

Burning a source would be bad for him, even if the source is dead. That still leaves family and friends vulnerable and could discourage people from continuing to feed him information.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 16, 2017 05:02 PM (0mRoj)

81 I'm going with Colonel Mustard in the Parlor with a Monkey Wrench. Problem solved! Teh!

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 16, 2017 05:02 PM (vV/gB)

82 The war profiteers in our government and multinational corporations don't go to jail. Drugs, Humans, Sex, Organs, ect... This is the real global economy and why our borders stay open.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:02 PM (2qHjF)

83 Also troubling is the investigator's claim that he was told the cops were ordered to lay off the case. I'd say that's a bit much to buy except its been 10 months and the case has basically been ignored. Even the Democratic party who you'd think would want to look after their staffers at least a little is saying nothing about it. Where's the progress, the reports, the press conference, the comments on it? What's being done?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2017 05:02 PM (39g3+)

84 I don't buy that a mugger shoots a guy 4 times (!!!) and then is too spooked to take the wallet, watch or gold chain that was the goal of the mugging.

Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2017 05:02 PM (CLKfs)

85 With the Hillary and her groupies anything is possible...

Posted by: William Eaton at May 16, 2017 05:02 PM (MuTTO)

86 >> Rich was shot in the back.

Sounds legit to me.

Posted by: Zombie Pat Garrett at May 16, 2017 05:02 PM (IQ71s)

87

Appearing on Friday's NBC Today, security analyst Juan Zarate warned: "The problem is the Russians aren't trustworthy. The Russians have proven that when we've provided information in the past, they've used it against us." He then proceeded to explain how former President Obama gave the Russians classified information just months ago:

newsbusters.org < - - go watch the vid

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 16, 2017 05:03 PM (fceHP)

88 Throughout history, people have been murdered for far less than this.

The idea that someone gets murdered that may be in the way of a political dynasty having the White House, it's not ludicrous.

Posted by: Maritime at May 16, 2017 05:03 PM (QWUwq)

89 Probably a disgruntled Bon Jovi fan

shot through the heart
and we know who to blame
who gave politics a bad name

Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at May 16, 2017 05:03 PM (c+z1/)

90 70 I've read this story on a lot of different outlets and one said Rich was shot in the back. Doesn't sound like a robbery to me.
Posted by: LexisTexas at May 16, 2017 05:00 PM (2YDX+)

He was watching Ewok pr0n. It was a mercy killing.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 16, 2017 05:03 PM (CPk08)

91 men's rompers.

You mean romphims...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:03 PM (O2RFr)

92 Seth Rich's parents are the most terrified people in the country right now.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:03 PM (2qHjF)

93 26 >>>Intimidation of future leakers.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

...

arrest and jail does that too, right?
Posted by: ace at May 16, 2017 04:51 PM (8rNrN)

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To an extent. I don't know what type of jail time he would have been facing. Death is a bit more permanent.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 16, 2017 05:04 PM (kTF2Z)

94 wow. so Hillary murdered a guy. again.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at May 16, 2017 05:04 PM (nFwvY)

95 "Pulitzer me."

"PULITZER FIGHT!!!!"

Posted by: SNL skit in the Duranty Food Court at May 16, 2017 05:04 PM (CvDgu)

96 He needed to sleep with the fishes in my britches.

Posted by: hillary (. ) ( ') at May 16, 2017 05:05 PM (nlbfN)

97 He then proceeded to explain how former President Obama gave the Russians classified information just months ago:

"Its different when Obama does it! He's the bestest most wisest and smartest man in the room and is righteous and just in all he does. Besides he talks perty."
-Reporters

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2017 05:05 PM (39g3+)

98 Could be worse.

We could be talking about men's rompers.

/ht: Instapundit
Posted by: filbert at May 16, 2017 05:01 PM (s5o+q)

they talked about this on Tucker's show.
they look foolish

it's a fund me stint - but people have ante'd up

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 16, 2017 05:05 PM (fceHP)

99 Yesterday the rumor was flying around /pol that Seth Rich was a herion addict. Funny.... The timing of this rumor.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:05 PM (2qHjF)

100 Rich had his laptop with him when he was murdered?

Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2017 05:05 PM (CLKfs)

101 The late great FBI director had much experience in protecting the Cartel...going back to the 90's. He is mucho deep in the doo doo. No way did he work hard on prosecuting the paw that fed him.

He is worth multi-millions now.

One does wonder how all these "public servants" become millionaires, right? The Indian Princess, Warren, after only a few years as a Senator is worth millions. They all are bought and sold down the James River quickly. They know where their loyalties lie, and it is not for the public they swear to protect.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at May 16, 2017 05:05 PM (fq4ih)

102 And I say this as somebody who knows a guy who was the victim of a failed mugging, almost fatally due to related GSW. He struggled. In a not-entirely-suspect area. I think the wallet was claimed, but BSG's statement that the gun going off provides a spark for somebody to beat feet is pretty accurate. Mugging is *not* impossible.

What are the statistics, though? Do we really know if the unique odds for "guy out at 4AM getting mugged fatally with no take" are, compared with "guy who *just happens to have people gunning for him, out at night for unknown reason, getting rubbed out"? If he belongs to the second group in a proven way, his chance of having been slain for cause may actually be much higher.

Sure, the pure numbers of political assassinations are (probably) vanishingly small compared to failed muggings (also incredibly small), but with proper consideration of the victim, the odds on may be that it *was*.

Posted by: Sporkatus at May 16, 2017 05:06 PM (eXSOZ)

103
Just a note, if any of you all read Weasel Zippers, his site has been hacked and you get directed to fake download sites.

I didn't have a problem there.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 16, 2017 05:07 PM (IqV8l)

104 Who had the means and motive. Um... I can think of a few.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:07 PM (2qHjF)

105 Secretary Panzersuit, in the Deathmobile, with a gin bottle.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at May 16, 2017 05:07 PM (nFwvY)

106 Burning a source would be bad for him, even if the source is dead. That still leaves family and friends vulnerable and could discourage people from continuing to feed him information.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone

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Probably, but my organization's "credibility" would be secondary if someone that gave me info was just killed and it looked to me to be an assasiation that was being covered up.

If Seth Rich did give wikileaks their infamous info, I would be cutting some sort of deal with Session's DOJ for an immunity deal.

Posted by: Maritime at May 16, 2017 05:07 PM (QWUwq)

107 I see wikileaks has tweeted the Fox story and said may justice be done...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:07 PM (O2RFr)

108 Rich had his laptop with him when he was murdered?

Maybe, the info isn't clear. It seems he had a laptop with him, possibly his work one, possibly not. He may have sent them from a home computer, also.

Yesterday the rumor was flying around /pol that Seth Rich was a herion addict.

I also remember the "he was killed buying drugs" trial balloon that was launched back then.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 16, 2017 05:08 PM (39g3+)

109 If unsubstantiated rumors are flying around-that Seth Rich was a addict, then there will be more rumors-particularly if he was assassinated by the Clinton Crime family.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:08 PM (fDdVG)

110 One does wonder how all these "public servants" become millionaires, right? The Indian Princess, Warren, after only a few years as a Senator is worth millions. They all are bought and sold down the James River quickly. They know where their loyalties lie, and it is not for the public they swear to protect.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at May 16, 2017 05:05 PM (fq4ih0

Last I looked, the conflict of interest guidelines for federal elected officials are, shall we say, limp, compared to those in place for salaried public servants. Which is totally surprising.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 16, 2017 05:08 PM (CPk08)

111 Motive shmotive, was there Intent!?

Posted by: James Comey at May 16, 2017 05:08 PM (IQ71s)

112 Seems to me ... if a man jumps into DC ... he takes his chances ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 16, 2017 05:08 PM (0HqNX)

113 zerohedge notes that the Fox guy said federal law enforcement found 40k+ emails and 17k+ attachments from the DNC to leaders, and Rich had shared those with Wikileaks.

http://tinyurl.com/kxbnn4e

Posted by: illiniwek at May 16, 2017 05:08 PM (TmCOq)

114 Told ya not to cross Hillary!

Oh wait, scratch that, I died before I could tell you anything.

Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at May 16, 2017 05:09 PM (m5dkR)

115 I also remember the "he was killed buying drugs" trial balloon that was launched back then.

Sure. That's why he still had his wallet... Drugs were free...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:09 PM (O2RFr)

116 Based on the standard of proof used to prove Trump/Russia collusion I'd say it's an political assassination, straight up.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 16, 2017 05:09 PM (4e+hS)

117 @92...this is what I think as well. The family came out quickly with this.

If your son had been killed in a faux robbery in the heart of DC, in a "good" neighborhood, and nothing was done...would you hire a private detective if you could?

That laptop...will it be like the Weiner's and other Clinton aides and do a disappearing act? It is supposedly at the FBI (hello! Comey fired last week! Was not able to clean off his own computer files) or the local DC police. Keep in mind, as well, the DC police chief, a woman, "retired" within weeks of the murder and went to work elsewhere.

Lots of coincidences. Lots.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at May 16, 2017 05:09 PM (fq4ih)

118 Did anyone else in the DC area hear Larry O'Connor interview Rod Wheeler this afternoon? Here are a few tidbits:

Wheeler stated that he was hired by Rich's parents to find out who murdered their son. So yes, he is working directly for them, according to him.

Wheeler said he doesn't know whether it was a robbery gone bad or connected to Wikileaks, and he doesn't care about the politics, he just wants to find Rich's killer as he was asked to do.

Wheeler said that the police say they don't have Rich's cell phone, the parents must have it. The parents told Rich they don't have it, the police must have it. Also, the DC police told Rich they don't have the laptop, and they don't know where it is, and the parents likewise don't have it.

Lastly, he said that the parents are distancing themselves from him for one of two reasons: a) they want to preserve the reputation of their son and b) they might be feeling threatened. He said the parents asked him not to speak about the case, but he took that to mean not to speak on their behalf, not that he shouldn't speak about it at all. I think he is splitting hairs there.

Posted by: bluebell at May 16, 2017 05:10 PM (sBOL1)

119 The idea that someone gets murdered that may be in the way of a political dynasty having the White House, it's not ludicrous.
Posted by: Maritime at May 16, 2017 05:03 PM (QWUwq)

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Jeb would talk about sissy slapping someone who got in his way. Hillary on the other hand seems like the kind of person who would give that same person a boat ride...around 2 AM...

Posted by: William Eaton at May 16, 2017 05:10 PM (MuTTO)

120 It's apparently no secret that the Clintons are a crime family. Plug it into bing and you get 139,000 results.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:10 PM (fDdVG)

121 Weren't the DC police ordered to back off AntiFa until James Okeefe's videos?

I thought so.

Seems in the big blue urban areas you are either a full black hat or a full white hat in law enforcement.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:10 PM (2qHjF)

122 Democrats are satan worshipers. Their own son's life is a small price to pay to protect The Party.

Posted by: Chris M at May 16, 2017 05:10 PM (eAZVt)

123 s I said below, twenty minutes after the Seth Rich news was released...which is no surprise to many who do not watch MSM for their news...WaPo released the intel bomb. Always keep in mind that Podesta is now part of WaPo.

But I am sure it is just a Clinton Coincidence, right?
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at May 16, 2017 04:57 PM (fq4ih)

What was the intel bomb they released? Sorry, Im a little behind on this timeline...

Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2017 05:10 PM (CLKfs)

124 >>>Oh, and a botched robbery gone wrong

The evidence points that way thus far.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 16, 2017 05:11 PM (RRmoB)

125 95
"Pulitzer me."

"PULITZER FIGHT!!!!"

Posted by: SNL skit in the Duranty Food Court at May 16, 2017 05:04 PM (CvDgu)

***
The first rule of Pulitzer Fight Club? Don't talk about Pulitzer Fight Club.
The second rule of Pulitzer Fight Club? Don't talk about Pulitzer Fight Club.

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 16, 2017 05:11 PM (Fb9aZ)

126 http://fxn.ws/2qmI5YS

"An FBI forensic report of Rich's computer -- generated within 96 hours after Rich's murder -- showed he made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time, the federal source told Fox News."

Another death.

Posted by: S at May 16, 2017 05:11 PM (poT2p)

127 A man has been murdered. Screw the politics. Find the thug who did it and if they were a goon, flip them to fry the shark who ordered the hit.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 16, 2017 05:11 PM (g6Mg0)

128 This whole thing reaks of Gefilte Fish, Zionism and False Flags.

Posted by: garrett at May 16, 2017 05:12 PM (IQ71s)

129 I also remember the "he was killed buying drugs" trial balloon that was launched back then.

Sure. That's why he still had his wallet... Drugs were free...
Posted by: It's Me donna

Hey! Drug dealers may be murderers, but they aren't thieves!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2017 05:12 PM (aMV0K)

130 He should have known that double-crossing the Clinton Crime Family has been the leading cause of Arkancide for decades

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at May 16, 2017 05:12 PM (DpOmP)

131 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

We have just discovered a handwritten note, torn in pieces, in the bottom of Seth Rich's laptop bag, written just prior to his death stating that he expected to be killed by muggers later that night and bemoaning the divisive political culture in Washington, D.C., where ruining others is considered sport.

Posted by: The FBI at May 16, 2017 05:12 PM (m5dkR)

132 At this point, who the hell knows what's going on.
It's a strange state of mind to find myself believing nothing and believing everything I read.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (ZjHNW)

133 Somebody doesn't like Bon Jovi

or the input filter doesn't like supeeny

Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (c+z1/)

134 You do wonder how twisted some partisans could be to the point where this guys parents are so freaking liberal, they are willing to sweep this under the rug rather than give any ammunition to Republicans.

You hear stories where someone's kid is killed by refugees in Europe and the parents will then have a rally supporting letting in more refugees

Posted by: Maritime at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (QWUwq)

135 I remember all those times that people who had no relationship with me were contractually bound by our signed agreement to not discuss things specifically laid out in the documents we had notarized.

Posted by: John McCain and the Gay Rape Monkeys at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (fD1ST)

136 Oh, I think that depends on the Democrats. Spouse and I are registered Democrats, Haven't voted that way since the first time Obama ran for office. We don't worship anyone God the Father, Christ the son and the Holy Spirit.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (fDdVG)

137 Another death.
Posted by: S at May 16, 2017 05:11 PM (poT2p)
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McFadyen died of cancer. I think he was 76.

Posted by: bluebell at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (sBOL1)

138 I haven't taken much interest in this story so I don't have a hard opinion. I could see it as a random act, however, I could also see Hillary having a "will no one rid me of this troublesome priest" moment. Who knows.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (kTF2Z)

139 Not to take either side of this story, but the rationales behind this denial don't seem particularly compelling, logic-wise.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (oVJmc)

140 MacFadyen was a 76 year old man with lung cancer.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (ngT9v)

141

Jake Tapper of the furrowed brow.

Posted by: Sphynx at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (OZmbA)

142 116 Based on the standard of proof used to prove Trump/Russia collusion I'd say it's an political assassination, straight up.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 16, 2017 05:09 PM (4e+hS)

By THAT standard of proof, it's an alien invasion combined with an international cannibal conspiracy too. It's a lot of things.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (CPk08)

143 129
I also remember the "he was killed buying drugs" trial balloon that was launched back then.

It worked for Michael Corleone.

Posted by: pep at May 16, 2017 05:14 PM (LAe3v)

144 Trump should nuke DC and call it a night. Move the White House to the Biltmore. Move the capital to Denver.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:14 PM (2qHjF)

145 At this point, who the hell knows what's going on.
It's a strange state of mind to find myself believing nothing and believing everything I read.
Posted by: L, Elle at May

we are through the looking glass.

nothing in the public domain is what it seems.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 16, 2017 05:14 PM (cPsPa)

146 "An FBI forensic report of Rich's computer -- generated within 96 hours after Rich's murder -- showed he made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time, the federal source told Fox News."

Another death.
Posted by: S

wow. so Hillary murdered a guy. again. and another again too.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at May 16, 2017 05:15 PM (nFwvY)

147 By THAT standard of proof, it's an alien invasion combined with an international cannibal conspiracy too. It's a lot of things.

Sorry, I don't see the connection to Elvis' baby with Putin.

Posted by: pep at May 16, 2017 05:15 PM (LAe3v)

148 Rod Wheeler (website rod007.com) is also not a paragon of credibility. He's better than the crazy "former Bond girl" who claimed Guccifer texted her (has that been memory holed yet by the kooks?), but only a bit. He promised to deliver the goods today but seems to be fading.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 16, 2017 05:15 PM (RRmoB)

149 Oh, and he was an aspiring rapper who was turning his life around and getting ready to go to college.

Wait-

Posted by: John McCain and the Gay Rape Monkeys at May 16, 2017 05:15 PM (fD1ST)

150 137
Another death.

Posted by: S at May 16, 2017 05:11 PM (poT2p)

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McFadyen died of cancer. I think he was 76.

Posted by: bluebell at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (sBOL1)
***
Sorry - we meant to say "another drug-related death." Is that better?

Posted by: Clinton Crime Family(tm) Crony at May 16, 2017 05:15 PM (Fb9aZ)

151 through Gavin MacFadyen, A NOW-DECEASED AMERICAN INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time, the federal source told Fox News.

---Rich's contact is dead too!?!??!

Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2017 05:16 PM (CLKfs)

152 14 Sad to say, but amb. Stevens family, longtime DC Democrat insiders didn't want anyone to use hillary getting g their son killed for politics,so.....they may be denying it for reasons other than believing Seth wasn't the leaker.
Posted by: lizzy ' s phone at May 16, 2017 04:48 PM (d1VP+)

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This is why we will never understand them or reasonably converse with them. My blood has run toenail-paint red since the Clarence Thomas hearings, before blue became the new red, but if I had any inkling that the RNC was behind the death of my son, some great force of reason would have to keep me from twisting the still-beating heart out of its chairman's chest.

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at May 16, 2017 05:16 PM (CvDgu)

153 THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY !!! SHIT HAPPENS !!!

Posted by: Cherry Sundaes Dude at May 16, 2017 05:16 PM (0HqNX)

154 This is an example of real racism when you think about it.

The Dems are trying to pin the murder on unknown random local African-Americans. Despite the evidence so far that makes it more like a "hit" ordered by white people.

Posted by: William Eaton at May 16, 2017 05:16 PM (MuTTO)

155 I saw a somewhat similar true crime doc. A woman was shot and killed in her garage in an apparent targeted assassination. Two men left their car in front of witnesses, walked to the victim's garage, shot her as she exited her vehicle, and ran without taking anything. Cops tore through her background looking for a motive. Turns out a couple of hood rats had damaged a bigger hood rat's car and they needed a part, a hood I think, from the same make and model. Victim drove by with the right; I.e., wrong, make and model. They followed her home intending auto theft but got excited, then scared.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 16, 2017 05:16 PM (Nwg0u)

156 Gunshots of the fatal type do seem to be a trademark of a certain Criminal Crony Clinton Party. Unlike Chicago where one schlub was found mysteriously dead due to an aspirin overdose.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 16, 2017 05:17 PM (g6Mg0)

157 17 It's not the scope of the evidence, it's the seriousness of the charge...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 04:49 PM (O2RFr)

That was what popped into my head as well. Who was the nice leftist who dropped this jewel of wisdom years ago and under what circumstances? I'm seriously drawing a blank, here.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 16, 2017 05:17 PM (V4Qfo)

158 Sorry, I don't see the connection to Elvis' baby with Putin.
Posted by: pep at May 16, 2017 05:15 PM (LAe3v)

Lemme read some nutjob websites and I'll prove it to you beyond a shadow of a doubt. The truth is out there.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 16, 2017 05:17 PM (CPk08)

159 Remember the 650k emails on Carlos Dangers computer found in the pedo investigation of him? Crazy how nobody speaks of that. It's almost as if the government war profiteers seek to protect themselves because they are a global network.

*spit*

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:17 PM (2qHjF)

160 ---Rich's contact is dead too!?!??!
Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2017 05:16 PM (CLKfs)

...and I'm not feeling too well myself.

Would you mind taking a sip of my glass of water for me?

Posted by: Julian Assange at May 16, 2017 05:18 PM (m5dkR)

161

Assuming it was not a botched, interrupted, armed robbery . . .

Motives:

Shot by spurned lover, or new lover's spurned lover.
Killed by Hillary hit man who knew he had procured info but didn't know he'd already leaked it.
Killed by Hillary hit man to prevent further leaking.
Killed by Hillary hit man to intimidate other potential leakers.

Posted by: Sphynx at May 16, 2017 05:18 PM (OZmbA)

162 @146...he supposedly died of cancer in his 70's.

Who knows? Another one of those coincidences.

If you play their game you must know the risks at this point, right? Since Fosterization, that is. And plane crashes and crushing through with a weight in gym. It is all a coincidence except to those who read lists and see through glasses darky (mine are smudged). xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at May 16, 2017 05:18 PM (fq4ih)

163 I think you are all jumping to conclusions that Rich was murdered... It could have been a freak accident... Maybe he fell on a gun that an NRA member had carelessly dropped on the sidewalk and it went off shooting him in the back 2 times.... I heard this from an anonymous source....

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:18 PM (O2RFr)

164 137 Another death.
Posted by: S at May 16, 2017 05:11 PM (poT2p)
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McFadyen died of cancer. I think he was 76.
Posted by: bluebell at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (sBOL1)

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That's what they want you to think!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 16, 2017 05:18 PM (kTF2Z)

165 Every normal lesbian must be tempted at times to spit upon her hands, hoist the black flag, and begin shooting traitors.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 16, 2017 05:18 PM (vRcUp)

166 You mean hacking like a chunk of lung?

Posted by: Fritz at May 16, 2017 05:18 PM (TNQMS)

167 really, who knows? what would get more attention a professional double tap hit or this thing?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 16, 2017 05:19 PM (cPsPa)

168 Rich's contact is dead too!?!??!

-
There's a lot of that going around.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 16, 2017 05:19 PM (Nwg0u)

169 Would you mind taking a sip of my glass of water for me?

Posted by: Julian Assange

BTW, when did we get the water that smells like almonds?

Posted by: Julian Assange at May 16, 2017 05:19 PM (LAe3v)

170 I've read there is video of the assassination, they should release it.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 16, 2017 05:19 PM (4e+hS)

171 ION channel is going to play a Bond movie every Sunday in June, you like Bond movies right?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 16, 2017 05:19 PM (6Ll1u)

172 Anonymous source told Fox? Sorry, don't believe that anonymous source either.
I want proof he was in contact with Wikileaks. Herasay doesn't cut it.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 05:19 PM (m3iiU)

173 >>Weren't the DC police ordered to back off AntiFa until James Okeefe's videos?

Also so this floated, FWIW: Shortly after Seth Rich murder backed off by DC police (1 month), DC chief of police promoted to VP of NFL Security. Bill Clinton's WH spokesman in an executive for NFL (the one who is renting his house to Obama).

Yeah, I know, tinfoil hat required...

Posted by: Lizzy at May 16, 2017 05:20 PM (NOIQH)

174 It totes wasn't the Russians this time, right?

Posted by: John McCain and the Gay Rape Monkeys at May 16, 2017 05:20 PM (fD1ST)

175 Was a Murdered DNC Official Sending Emails to Wikileaks?

I am going to go with "Yes". Prove me wrong.

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 05:20 PM (c6/9Q)

176 #172- hearsay doesn't cut it either!

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 05:20 PM (m3iiU)

177 ION channel is going to play a Bond movie every Sunday in June, you like Bond movies right?
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There are more than four James Bonds, let alone four Bond movies.

Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at May 16, 2017 05:21 PM (c+z1/)

178 Ace wrote, "If a botched robbery is hard to believe, so is a botched assassination -- Seth Rich was apparently still alive when he reached the hospital...".

I find it very easy to believe in a botched assassination. The Archduke Franz Ferdinand survived an assassination attempt just prior to the one that killed him. The team that got Reinhard Heydrich on Operation Anthropoid in WWII very nearly botched the job, and they had been highly trained for that specific mission. FDR survived an assassination attempt. So did Teddy Roosevelt. So did Ronald Reagan. The list goes on and on.

Human beings are at once both incredibly fragile and amazingly durable. Chance plays a huge role too--especially when handguns are the weapons employed since handguns are notoriously ineffective when compared to bombs, rifles, shotguns, or--for that matter--knives.

If Rich was assassinated for political reasons rather than shot by a street thug or junkie, the killing would have to be done by someone trusted and highly placed--meaning older and maybe a little soft and rusty. That Rich was shot in the back is telling on that score.

Anyway, if history is an indicator, bungled assassinations are more the norm than the exception.

Posted by: troyriser at May 16, 2017 05:21 PM (Fw5cQ)

179 I am going to go with "Yes". Prove me wrong.

Posted by: runner

Yeah, no, that's not how this works.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at May 16, 2017 05:21 PM (LAe3v)

180 We should switch up the content at the hq to all food threads with one news thread on Saturday.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 16, 2017 05:21 PM (cPsPa)

181 You can go onto the dark web put a contract on somebody. Hell you can do anything. And our law enforcement rarely catches anybody except some token jack off that is in the. News for a day.

Yep. Nothing fishy here.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:21 PM (2qHjF)

182 It was a crime of passion.

Posted by: Uncle Leo at May 16, 2017 05:22 PM (IQ71s)

183 getting rid of cable, going to go with naked news.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 16, 2017 05:22 PM (cPsPa)

184 Eh. Sometimes shit happens.

Not to downplay the guys death, but a lot of people die every day. And in more senseless ways.

It may be fun to talk about the same way the Hillary walker stuff was, but you don't need a big conspiracy when bad luck will suffice.

Posted by: Chupacabra at May 16, 2017 05:22 PM (394Mh)

185 163 I think you are all jumping to conclusions that Rich was murdered... It could have been a freak accident... Maybe he fell on a gun that an NRA member had carelessly dropped on the sidewalk and it went off shooting him in the back 2 times.... I heard this from an anonymous source....
Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:18 PM (O2RFr)

Hi Guys! This is why I'm so in favor of just, common sense reforms on gun control! Thanks so much to everyone!

Posted by: It's Chelsea! at May 16, 2017 05:22 PM (CPk08)

186 It was Seth Rich that leaked this to Wiki leaks. It was Jon Podesta, Russian agent accused pedophile, that got hooked on the phishing scam.

See it is real simple.

Posted by: Occam with a Razor at May 16, 2017 05:22 PM (npdX6)

187 Sad to say, but amb. Stevens family, longtime DC Democrat insiders didn't want anyone to use hillary getting g their son killed for politics,so.....they may be denying it for reasons other than believing Seth wasn't the leaker.
Posted by: lizzy ' s phone at May 16, 2017 04:48 PM (d1VP+)

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This is why we will never understand them or reasonably converse with them. My blood has run toenail-paint red since the Clarence Thomas hearings, before blue became the new red, but if I had any inkling that the RNC was behind the death of my son, some great force of reason would have to keep me from twisting the still-beating heart out of its chairman's chest.
Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at May 16, 2017 05:16 PM (CvDgu)

I was on the phone with one of my brother's today.

His mother/father in-laws are kooky leftists. His mother in law is going through (another) bout of cancer, this time, she probably won't survive (they weren't even going to do chemo this time because they said she wouldn't respond to it).

But about a week+ ago, they both had[\i] to go to an anti-Trump rally - because of his stance on "climate change." In 90 degree weather, she paraded with the useful idiots, and now she has pneumonia.

She's drawing the very last precious moments of life and she decides to spend it at an anti-Trump rally?

I can't wrap my head around this no matter how hard I try. This is so unnatural. So hideous.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 16, 2017 05:22 PM (fceHP)

188 Anyway, if history is an indicator, bungled assassinations are more the norm than the exception.

But sometimes things work out.....for someone.

Posted by: Julius C. at May 16, 2017 05:22 PM (LAe3v)

189 Rich's contact is dead too!?!??!

-
There's a lot of that going around.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
****

His contact was 76, IIRC.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 05:23 PM (m3iiU)

190 Johnny Cash-"God's gonna cut you down."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTCS6aWRSc

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:23 PM (fDdVG)

191

*** unavailable for comment ***

Posted by: Ron Brown at May 16, 2017 05:23 PM (DpOmP)

192

About hacking

A certain government, not us, has developed a virus that allows them to bridge the air gap between classified and unclassified systems

And it was installed by air conditioner repairmen

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:23 PM (RFVuK)

193 The MSM and the Deep State is working 24/7/365 at this point to fill the news with as much bullshit to cover up the actual crimes.

Literally a Cloward-Piven operation.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:23 PM (2qHjF)

194 It was not just Rich, now was it. His contact is dead too.

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 05:24 PM (c6/9Q)

195 I shot him in Reno, just to watch him die.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! at May 16, 2017 05:24 PM (rUIbB)

196 get Mark Fuhrman involved, we will have it solved in a week.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 16, 2017 05:24 PM (cPsPa)

197 If you work for Hillary in anyway, never take that late night walk

Posted by: Vince Foster at May 16, 2017 05:24 PM (DpOmP)

198 CNN- The embattled Trump administration, reeling from weeks of embarrassing leaks from both within and without of the party, today failed to respond to requests for comment on the simultaneous launch of four test missiles from the peace loving nation of North Korea. Correspondents from Los Angeles, San Fransisco, and Honolulu were also unavailable for comment on this late breaking story.

Posted by: CNN Breaking News at May 16, 2017 05:24 PM (HTdUD)

199 say, anyone seen Huma Abedin lately ??

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 05:25 PM (c6/9Q)

200 About hacking

A certain government, not us, has developed a virus that allows them to bridge the air gap between classified and unclassified systems

And it was installed by air conditioner repairmen
Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017

big fucking deal, hillary and huma solved that on their own.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 16, 2017 05:25 PM (cPsPa)

201 I am totally being serious here, which I realize may be different from my usual sarcasm on the rare times I post:

Last night, for the first time since the election and January 20th, I lit a candle and prayed specifically for the protection of President Trump and the "good guys."

I prayed for the evil to be brought to light, all the players, no matter how shocking. It is a game to them. A tit for tat. Watch this closely...when President Trump has a good week they volley off with a "source" says blah blah. Fake news. Which gets idiots stirred up who only read or watch fake news and, therefore, have no curiosity for the other side aka truth.

This has happened before, courtesy of WaPo, and within minutes of bad news for the Cabal. It will happen again and again and again.

While I knew this would be a difficult job, to take back our country, I did not anticipate the NeverTrumpers like Balloon Head (friend of McCain and former CIA) along with the evil Dims and their effing Resist crap. It is bordering on sedition.

So, I pray for this country, and I pray for this President. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at May 16, 2017 05:25 PM (fq4ih)

202 Seth Rich was swallowed by a black hole.

Posted by: Don Lemon at May 16, 2017 05:25 PM (j+dfT)

203 Reese to Sarah Connor, "If you want to live, never work for Hillary."

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 16, 2017 05:25 PM (g6Mg0)

204 180 We should switch up the content at the hq to all food threads with one news thread on Saturday.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 16, 2017 05:21 PM (cPsPa)

Isn't there a danger that we could all become obese?

Posted by: rickl at May 16, 2017 05:25 PM (xjiRE)

205 Posted by: Chupacabra at May 16, 2017 05:22 PM (394Mh)

It's rather amazing how so many people connected with the Clintons-or stand in their way- have so much bad luck.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:26 PM (fDdVG)

206 Janet Reno blew up a compound, just to watch the children die

Posted by: David Koresh at May 16, 2017 05:26 PM (DpOmP)

207 What was he shot with? Was a shell casing recovered?

I ask because If no shell casing then only two things could be true.

1. He was shot with a revolver
2. The shooter recovered the casing

If 2, then there was no panic on the part of the shooter.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 16, 2017 05:26 PM (QvdcM)

208 these Clintons, they sound dangerous....

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 05:26 PM (c6/9Q)

209 Well, not much work done today, but on the up side, we solved a murder and debunked a treasonous conspiracy against the President.

Miller Time!

Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2017 05:26 PM (CLKfs)

210 156
Gunshots of the fatal type do seem to be a trademark of a certain
Criminal Crony Clinton Party. Unlike Chicago where one schlub was found
mysteriously dead due to an aspirin overdose.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 16, 2017 05:17 PM (g6Mg0)

***
I believe the police report reads that he fell, backwards, down an elevator shaft, and landed on 18 bullets . . . . that happened to be laying at the bottom. Nothing to see here, please disperse.

Posted by: Clinton Crime Family(tm) Crony at May 16, 2017 05:26 PM (Fb9aZ)

211

Christy Blinky I'm with you

This is an attempted coup

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:27 PM (RFVuK)

212 It was not just Rich, now was it. His contact is dead too.

Posted by: runner
****

His contact was 76 years of age.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 05:27 PM (0x/TW)

213 Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at May 16, 2017 05:25 PM (fq4ih)

Great. They need prayers. Spouse and i pray for them every morning.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:27 PM (fDdVG)

214 @186...on top of phishing he left his phone, with emails, and all sorts of goodies, in a NYC cab.

Oh, yeah, they were so careful. But no harm done, right? Only all of our enemies know stuff...don't look under that rock.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at May 16, 2017 05:27 PM (fq4ih)

215 (takes a glance at the last few hours)

THE 2016 ELECTION MASCOT IS BACK... IN STYLE!

https://youtu.be/6aHjgnQ8IR0

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 16, 2017 05:27 PM (wB8Tg)

216 I'm sure he was promised extra-security...

Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at May 16, 2017 05:27 PM (DpOmP)

217 Great. They need prayers. Spouse and i pray for them every morning.

You can add me too...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:28 PM (O2RFr)

218 202
Seth Rich was swallowed by a black hole.

Not true. He fell into the ocean when Guam tipped over.

Posted by: Hank J. at May 16, 2017 05:28 PM (LAe3v)

219 Remember that movie script involving wet works at the location where Scalia died that Jon Podesta emailed or recovered a email about about a year before Scalia died.

Crazy coincidence. The ball always bounces that way for our criminal war profiteers in our government and multinational coorporations. They should just play Powerball and win once a month, they are so damn lucky.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:28 PM (2qHjF)

220 With the obsolete media being what it is, we'll not see an answer to the emails probably and to the murder certainly.

Posted by: Anna Mac at May 16, 2017 05:28 PM (xujfC)

221 Amazon has power drills 70% off.

Somebody tell ace.

He might have another shelving job scheduled.

What? Too harsh?
You can never go wrong on a tool sale. Everybody needs tools, man.

Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at May 16, 2017 05:28 PM (c+z1/)

222 >>on top of phishing he left his phone, with emails, and all sorts of goodies, in a NYC cab.

His Pizza was getting cold.

Posted by: garrett at May 16, 2017 05:28 PM (IQ71s)

223 His contact was 76 years of age.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 05:27 PM (0x/TW)

well, then....

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 05:28 PM (c6/9Q)

224 You got to get rid of the people who can finger you...

[insert Huma joke here]

Posted by: Bill Ayers at May 16, 2017 05:29 PM (DpOmP)

225 Just because sometimes things aren't as they appear, doesn't mean that things are never as they appear.
Sometimes things are exactly as they appear.

Posted by: navybrat at May 16, 2017 05:29 PM (w7KSn)

226 They have their tentacles touching a lot of lives, Fen. I don't think it rises to me believing they put hits out on those that cross them though.

Not that I don't think them capable, but I'm skeptical and contrarian by nature.

Posted by: Chupacabra at May 16, 2017 05:29 PM (394Mh)

227 Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:28 PM (O2RFr)

I think there are a lot of people making these prayers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:29 PM (fDdVG)

228 New major fake news being released from the NYT. Something about Flynn and Comey. This is getting uglier by the hour.

Posted by: Ripley at May 16, 2017 05:29 PM (1BQGO)

229 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 16, 2017 05:22 PM (fceHP)

Sadly, the political is their religion.

If I had terminal cancer I think I'd be spending an awful lot of time praying in church. Your MIL is in her church.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 16, 2017 05:30 PM (Ri/rl)

230 I think there are a lot of people making these prayers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:29 PM (fDdVG)
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*raises hand*

Posted by: bluebell at May 16, 2017 05:30 PM (sBOL1)

231 >>221 Amazon has power drills 70% off.

Somebody tell ace.

Oh! Goodie goodie !!

Posted by: Zombie Jeffrey Dahmer at May 16, 2017 05:30 PM (OZmbA)

232 Well, y'all, nice to see you, ThunderB and Fenelon. For the sake of my sanity I will go back in my bunker.

Love y'all. Keep fighting and praying. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at May 16, 2017 05:30 PM (fq4ih)

233 221
Amazon has power drills 70% off.

Don't fall for the oldest con in the book, i.e., claiming some enormous price reduction based on a price that nobody ever paid.

Posted by: pep at May 16, 2017 05:30 PM (LAe3v)

234 I feel for the Riches. Kooks are the reason Scalia's burial was kept under so much wraps. Kooks ruin everything.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 16, 2017 05:31 PM (RRmoB)

235 anyone seen Huma Abedin lately ??
Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 05:25 PM (c6/9Q)

She is an artist now. She sculps ice figures with her face.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:31 PM (2qHjF)

236 Sad to say, but amb. Stevens family, longtime DC Democrat insiders didn't want anyone to use hillary getting g their son killed for politics,so.....they may be denying it for reasons other than believing Seth wasn't the leaker.

Posted by: lizzy ' s phone at May 16, 2017 04:48 PM (d1VP+)

"Party before family". A trait of Communists, and, it seems, Democrats.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2017 05:31 PM (0deF2)

237 >> Amazon has power drills 70% off.

Call me when the Fucksaws are on sale.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 16, 2017 05:31 PM (IQ71s)

238 McFadyen died of cancer. I think he was 76.

Posted by: bluebell at May 16, 2017 05:13 PM (sBOL1)

Maybe...maybe not....

Posted by: AoSHQ Conspiracy Theory League at May 16, 2017 05:31 PM (rF0hx)

239

I have zero clue about the murder

But just because the DNC leaks were already out and killing him wouldnt prevent that

Doesnt mean he didnt have more damage he could do, if he was the hacker

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:32 PM (RFVuK)

240 Maybe...maybe not....
Posted by: AoSHQ Conspiracy Theory League at May 16, 2017 05:31 PM (rF0hx)
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I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: bluebell at May 16, 2017 05:32 PM (sBOL1)

241 One thing about Hillary/The Clintons that bothers me is how much their luck is like Hitler's. There were so many times were it took serious luck for Hitler to survive or move on with his plans, it was like there was a dark angel watching over him. No, not saying there was.
Someone spared his lfe in WWI, all the failed assassination attempts, his unbelievable ascent to power. Just eerie.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 05:32 PM (0x/TW)

242 >>McFadyen died of cancer. I think he was 76.

So. Mitt Romney is working with the Clintons?

Posted by: Conspiracy Guy at May 16, 2017 05:32 PM (IQ71s)

243 209
Well, not much work done today, but on the up side, we solved a murder
and debunked a treasonous conspiracy against the President.

Miller Time!

Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2017 05:26 PM (CLKfs)
***

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRisovwz4KA

Posted by: Clinton Crime Family(tm) Crony at May 16, 2017 05:32 PM (Fb9aZ)

244 well, even if he had said he was the source of the leaks, not the russians, that would have been very damaging to the whole Trump-russian collusion narrative.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 16, 2017 05:33 PM (cPsPa)

245 Did you see the Death Row inmate that requested a firing squad instead of the lethal injection?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 16, 2017 05:33 PM (6Ll1u)

246 So why is Drudge bringing stories from the NYT and WaPo? The newest "scandal" is Trump asked Comey to stop investigating Flynn. A new one every day. As a matter of fact this is 2 today for the NYT...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:33 PM (O2RFr)

247 Assange's lawyer ended up under a train in Victoria (?) station. He was cancer free I believe.

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 05:33 PM (c6/9Q)

248 Call me when the Fucksaws are on sale.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May

you probably meant fucksalls.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 16, 2017 05:33 PM (cPsPa)

249 Intimidation of future leakers.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

...

arrest and jail does that too, right?

Posted by: ace at May 16, 2017 04:51 PM (8rNrN)

Going to "authorities" means going public with affirmation that the emails are legit. In essence, admitting to the content of the emails, which has never actually been done.
Besides, leakers are snitches of a sort, and that is the sort that squeals like a stuck pig when pressured.

Snitches get stitches, and end up in ditches.
So they say.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 16, 2017 05:34 PM (z79tQ)

250 >McFadyen died of cancer.

Polonium-related?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 16, 2017 05:34 PM (oVJmc)

251 well, duh, who would not prefer the firing squad?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 16, 2017 05:34 PM (cPsPa)

252 I read that FBI has evidence that Rich was communicating with wikileaks ? am I wrong ?

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 05:34 PM (c6/9Q)

253

Comeys revenge

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:34 PM (RFVuK)

254 well, even if he had said he was the source of the leaks, not the russians, that would have been very damaging to the whole Trump-russian collusion narrative.
Posted by: yankeefifth
________

Obviously WikiLeaks is not some partisan, Republican outfit. But yeah, if WikiLeaks came out and said that Seth Rich was the source, the Russia nonsense would blow up.

They'd be on to the next thing in 24 hours, like Trump called a different beauty contestant fat.

Posted by: Maritime at May 16, 2017 05:35 PM (QWUwq)

255 Seems to me the Democrats could have blamed the murder on Trump.

But they didn't so perhaps they didn't want any investigation.

Posted by: MAGA at May 16, 2017 05:35 PM (LQ1Q3)

256 You zotz the kid, because you have to send a message to the other kids that might be tempted to infiltrate the machine and make a name for themselves as investigative reporter.

Like that those kids did with the Planned Parenthood videos.

You come in here we'll kill you.

On the other hand, it could be the work of a foreign intelligence service. Seeing him as a threat to undo the work of generations coopting the DNC until it is an organ of your own foreign policy.

Posted by: simplemind at May 16, 2017 05:35 PM (xVRrG)

257 Going to "authorities" means going public with affirmation that the emails are legit. In essence, admitting to the content of the emails, which has never actually been done.

And then the public spectacle of a trial.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 16, 2017 05:36 PM (oVJmc)

258 Comeys revenge

Yup, I guess his "Pals" at the FBI are giving memos to the NYT that Comey allegedly wrote concerning Trump and Flynn...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:36 PM (O2RFr)

259
Comey was very feared around DC. At least that is what Tucker Carlson reported..

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 05:36 PM (c6/9Q)

260

Comey and Clapper are flooding the zone

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:36 PM (RFVuK)

261 Why is no one bringing up that Flynn was given security clearance by Obama before he was with Trump?

I mean, you would think that Flyn was some random spy that Trump picked out of one of his rallies.

Posted by: Maritime at May 16, 2017 05:37 PM (QWUwq)

262 Comey and Clapper are flooding the zone

Yup, and with a willing accomplice in the media...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:37 PM (O2RFr)

263 If Seth Rich was the source of the leaks and I think he was, since Assange put out a reward for the capture of his murderer, we have to think about what else he had.

Yes, he released X amount.

However, those emails might not have been the most dangerous.

He could have been killed to make sure the worst of the emails were never given to Wikileaks.

Posted by: shibumi at May 16, 2017 05:37 PM (BPeNq)

264 Rich Hall's career has been dead for ages.

Posted by: Norm McDonald at May 16, 2017 05:37 PM (bc2Lc)

265 McFadyen died of cancer.

Polonium-related?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 16, 2017 05:34 PM (oVJmc)

I'll just mention that his original death announcement apparently issued by his wife said that he had died after a "short illness." The next day, it said he had lung cancer. But people with lung cancer can live for quite some time, so.... ?

Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2017 05:37 PM (CLKfs)

266

This is a soft coup attempt

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:38 PM (RFVuK)

267 >>>It's rather amazing how so many people connected with the Clintons-or stand in their way- have so much bad luck.

Kinda like the Poltergeist movie crew, or was it the Exorcist? Or the people who opened King Tut's tomb? Or was it the cast of Dif'rent Strokes? So hard to keep all the theories straight...

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 16, 2017 05:39 PM (RRmoB)

268 Oh boy, the FBI is now releasing memos written by Comey of conversations with trump where Trump asks Comey to drop the investigation on Flynn...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:39 PM (O2RFr)

269 Well, I hope Trump keeps on more of Obama's people so we can have one of these fires to put out every week.

Sayy Yeates, Comey, Preet bahara, etc

Trump has no one to blame but himself, the day he was sworn in he should have fired all of them.

Posted by: Maritime at May 16, 2017 05:39 PM (QWUwq)

270 Obviously WikiLeaks is not some partisan, Republican outfit. But yeah, if WikiLeaks came out and said that Seth Rich was the source, the Russia nonsense would blow up.

They'd be on to the next thing in 24 hours, like Trump called a different beauty contestant fat.
Posted by: Maritime at May

right, but it seth came out and confirmed he was the leaker and the legitimacy of the emails that is a whole different game.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 16, 2017 05:40 PM (cPsPa)

271 The scene in the departed where Mark Wahlberg shoots Matt Damon is what I would like to happen to no one in particular except the deserving particulars.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 16, 2017 05:40 PM (QvdcM)

272 Yup, I guess his "Pals" at the FBI are giving memos to the NYT that Comey allegedly wrote concerning Trump and Flynn...
Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:36 PM (O2RFr)

About what, exactly? That Trump had Flynn, a respected general, in place for 2 weeks before he fired him? Gadzooks!!! Impeach!!!!

Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2017 05:40 PM (CLKfs)

273 269 Well, I hope Trump keeps on more of Obama's people so we can have one of these fires to put out every week.

Every week? It's every couple hours now...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:40 PM (O2RFr)

274

I hope Trump has those recordings

Comey and Clapper are gunning for him

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:40 PM (RFVuK)

275 Perhaps we-those who pray, I mean- should also pray that Trump just doesn't say, "To hell with this colossal
c***. I'm outtahere and going back to my business and my family"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:40 PM (fDdVG)

276 Rich Hall's career has been dead for ages.

Point Blimfark: The point where the wagon wheels start looking like they're spinning backwards.

(I like the physics ones).

Posted by: eleven at May 16, 2017 05:41 PM (qUNWi)

277 275 Perhaps we-those who pray, I mean- should also pray that Trump just doesn't say, "To hell with this colossal
c***. I'm outtahere and going back to my business and my family"

Maybe...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:41 PM (O2RFr)

278 There is no conspiracy. THERE IS NO CONSIRACY !!!

I love you Winona.

Posted by: Cherry Sundaes Dude at May 16, 2017 05:41 PM (0HqNX)

279 Fenelon, Trump is not a quitter. Of that I am sure. He's not going to leave voluntarily.

Posted by: bluebell at May 16, 2017 05:41 PM (sBOL1)

280
From the first election and inauguration of Barak H. O'Dogeater to this day, it has been as if I have slid into an alternate universe, everything is so over the top strange and one sided.

The media used to give a shit about their reputations and fairness. Now. Not at all. They're like horny teenagers who've showed up at the prom with their dicks wagging about and they're trying to hump anything that moves, without a shred of self awareness.

Posted by: Sphynx at May 16, 2017 05:41 PM (OZmbA)

281 Posted by: It's Me donna at May 16, 2017 05:41 PM (O2RFr)

Because they won't be any easier on Pence.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:42 PM (fDdVG)

282 The media used to give a shit about their reputations and fairness. Now. Not at all. They're like horny teenagers who've showed up at the prom with their dicks wagging about and they're trying to hump anything that moves, without a shred of self awareness.
Posted by: Sphynx at May

none of these guys went to prom, with a date anyway.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 16, 2017 05:43 PM (cPsPa)

283 Comey was very feared around DC.

---

Obama was feared, at least by the GOP, to judge by their actions.

I seems like the FBI was investigating Trump, Trump's campaign, Trump's advisers, Trump's potential political appointees.

Obama had Trump, Trump, Trump, and Trump under surveillance so the FBI has plenty of leads to investigate.

Rumor has it that Scalia said something to Napolitano about the Supreme Court being under Obama's surveillance, but Scalia's dead now.

Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at May 16, 2017 05:43 PM (c+z1/)

284

Deep state has declared war on a democratically elected POTUS

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:43 PM (RFVuK)

285 Posted by: bluebell at May 16, 2017 05:41 PM (sBOL1)

I think he has a fighting spirit too, and if anything was more likely to turn Trump more conservative it would be the absolute perfidy of the Dems.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:44 PM (fDdVG)

286 Comey is trying to protect himself because he is balls deep in making Hillary's server problems go away.

Posted by: MAGA at May 16, 2017 05:44 PM (LQ1Q3)

287 Hillary Clinton was kicked off the Watergate committee because she was a lying cheating bitch,

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 16, 2017 05:44 PM (6Ll1u)

288 The media can't keep up this pace of screaming outrage, already I would argue it's been tuned out by voters that matter.

The only people consuming the MSM anymore are voters that were never up for grabs.

Still, I have to say, Trump has made a lot of stupid, self-inflicted wounds. Keeping Comey on was a big one.

And most of Obama's holdovers are still there waiting to blow up.

Instead of trying to get the FBI to find leakers, how about just firing anyone Obama hired?

Posted by: Maritime at May 16, 2017 05:44 PM (QWUwq)

289 It's rather amazing how so many people connected with the Clintons-or stand in their way- have so much bad luck.

Kinda like the Poltergeist movie crew, or was it the Exorcist? Or the people who opened King Tut's tomb? Or was it the cast of Dif'rent Strokes? So hard to keep all the theories straight...

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy
****

Or the engine from James Deans death car...

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 05:44 PM (uhftQ)

290 Not alot of Maggie Thatchers in the moronette horde, sadly.

Posted by: eleven at May 16, 2017 05:45 PM (qUNWi)

291 just goes to show that if you work with the Clintons better keep your head on a swivel and always be serpentining.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at May 16, 2017 05:46 PM (nFwvY)

292 Posted by: Banana Splits Guy

So you're saying it's not at all unusual?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:46 PM (fDdVG)

293 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:40 PM (fDdVG)

Ha, au contraire!

He'll burn the bitch right down to the ground rather than quit, inho.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 16, 2017 05:47 PM (p5Y9F)

294 Ace: "5. If a botched robbery is hard to believe, so is a botched assassination -- Seth Rich was apparently still alive when he reached the hospital. I don't think he regained consciousness and could not provide any clues in his own death, but an assassin really wouldn't have left that up to chance, would he have? If you've come to kill someone, you kill him -- you don't injure him badly and then leave it up to God and emergency medicine whether he survives or not."

=========

He may have given clues to his killers to the D.C. police, but what would he likely have told them other than a physical description of the perps? I can't imagine they said, "this is for stealing emails and giving them to Wikileaks!" bang bang

Remember, Wikileaks had the emails, but had not yet published them, at the time of the killing.

If it was a hit on Seth Rich, it must have come out of the counterintelligence division of the FBI. They undoubtedly have been investigating Assange for years and identifying and tracking his contacts, such as MacFadyen. No one else would have been speculating about Rich or any other DNC staffer leaking the emails, because they had not yet been published. Who else could have known about what Rich had done at that point, other than the US intelligence community?

And if Rich told the D.C. police something about his killers, I don't discount the idea that the DC police would keep something under wraps if the feds told them to.

Remember the shooting of the single black mother who drove into a White House barrier and took off, shot and killed by someone (US Capitol Police, DC Police, Secret Service?) after a chase? That was kept under wraps, and the media never pursued what happened, and no one was publicly disciplined much less charged, even though it happened in front of lots of dash cams and building security cams.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at May 16, 2017 05:47 PM (m5dkR)

295 It's rather amazing how so many people connected with the Clintons-or stand in their way- have so much bad luck.

Kinda like the Poltergeist movie crew, or was it the Exorcist? Or the people who opened King Tut's tomb? Or was it the cast of Dif'rent Strokes? So hard to keep all the theories straight...
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy

Or the lawyers on OJ Simpson's defense team

Posted by: L, Elle at May 16, 2017 05:47 PM (ZjHNW)

296 I'll keep asking until I'm blue in the face: where is the evidence that the Russians changed one vote from Hillary to Trump?

Trump wanted Comey to stop the Flynn investigation. So the fuck what? There's not one shred of evidence that Flynn did anything to get the Russians to influence the election.

Posted by: Mike at May 16, 2017 05:48 PM (c056A)

297
Vince Foster was happenstance.
Seth Rich is coincidence.

Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at May 16, 2017 05:48 PM (FlRtG)

298 This is leading up to September 23 2017 when a once in 7000 years astrological event occurs. See Revelation 12. Truly interesting stuff. YouTube it. Nobody knows what it means but it's happening.

Amazing how disconnected we are from looking up at the sky, following the stars and planets, and astrological events compared to our ancestors. We are literally retarded as a civilization when it comes to that.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:48 PM (2qHjF)

299 I love you Winona.

Posted by: Cherry Sundaes Dude at May 16, 2017 05:41 PM (0HqNX)

TRO is in the mail.

Posted by: Winona at May 16, 2017 05:48 PM (kD8Fh)

300 Posted by: eleven at May 16, 2017 05:45 PM (qUNWi)

*raises an eyebrow at eleven*

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 16, 2017 05:48 PM (p5Y9F)

301

He may have underestimated the depth and viciousness of the swamp

Surely now he is aware, but he needs allies

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:48 PM (RFVuK)

302 Comey is a rotten, lying bastard who should have been gone gone day one.

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 05:49 PM (c6/9Q)

303 >> It's rather amazing how so many people connected with the Clintons-or stand in their way- have so much bad luck.

Bill found an evil enchanted Tiki on Pedophile Island and it's cursed the family ever since.

Posted by: garrett at May 16, 2017 05:49 PM (IQ71s)

304 >>Trump wanted Comey to stop the Flynn investigation.

When?

After he was let go?

Posted by: garrett at May 16, 2017 05:50 PM (IQ71s)

305 raises an eyebrow at eleven*
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 16, 2017 05:48 PM (p5Y9F)

Perhaps eleven means 'ettes willing to run for political office

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 05:50 PM (fDdVG)

306 So, the weasel Comey now is divulging memos of private meetings --- But if he thought whatever Trump had said was a problem, improper, or illegal, what did he do about it? Wait... Nothing?

Hmmm.

Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2017 05:50 PM (CLKfs)

307 >>>So you're saying it's not at all unusual?

I haven't heard anything unusual yet. And some claims are laughably wrong. Which is kind of like all the other "curses". There are a lot of similarities in conspiracy theories.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 16, 2017 05:51 PM (RRmoB)

308 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 16, 2017 05:22 PM (fceHP)'

That is unbelievable. I'd like to think I wouldn't spent my last months even thinking about politics.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 16, 2017 05:51 PM (p5Y9F)

309 CNN- Many career military officials are expressing dismay at the Trump administration removal of anti-ballistic missile systems protecting the cities of Seattle, San Francisco, and Los Angeles from attack.

The repositioning of the ABM system has caused consternation among many, ''From all appearances, it's looks like he's protecting Tijuana, Mexico'', said one respondent.

Referring to lack of coverage and protection of Mexico and immigration, one ardent anti-Trump person said, 'But how are they going to get here, if here isn't here anymore?'

Posted by: CNN Breaking News at May 16, 2017 05:51 PM (HTdUD)

310 What if the truth about just this one death came out? How long of a thread would be unraveled?
How many players would have to die to keep a lid on higher ups?

It'll never go anywhere, because if it did, the nation would be shocked to its core. Somewhere, there will be a very lumpy rug and nobody will ever lift a corner of it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 16, 2017 05:51 PM (z79tQ)

311
Amazon has power drills 70% off.

Don't need one.

Posted by: Tim the ex tool man at May 16, 2017 05:52 PM (IqV8l)

312
He may have underestimated the depth and viciousness of the swamp

Surely now he is aware, but he needs allies

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:48 PM (RFVuK)

At least his election has revealed what was hiding in plain sight. Yes he needs allies and lots of prayers as well. Someone upthread suggested he might throw in the towel out of concern for his family. But I think he feels an obligation to the millions of us who voted for him. He is a patriot. Those who oppose him are evil scumbuckets.

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 05:52 PM (kD8Fh)

313 The DNC emails obtained by Wikileaks revealed internal maneuvering to railroad Sanders and rig the nomination for Hillary (which led to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's resignation, and her immediate re-hiring by Hillary).

Wikileaks continued to jack up the reward for information leading to Rich's killers. If there is no connection to Seth Rich, why would they care?

Motive: Seth Rich supported Sanders. He was pissed and knew lots of others would be too. So he downloaded or forwarded the emails. Like Ace says, no need to be an IT guy, just have physical access to the system.

Posted by: Lab Rat at May 16, 2017 05:52 PM (hAbrX)

314
Trump vs The Machine

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:52 PM (RFVuK)

315 The Red Sox and the Cubs were legit cursed.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:52 PM (2qHjF)

316 303 >> It's rather amazing how so many people connected with the Clintons-or stand in their way- have so much bad luck.

one third of the episodes of the NBC show Supertrain were about hitmen or assassins. one third.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at May 16, 2017 05:53 PM (nFwvY)

317 The fact that he already leaked it doesn't mean they weren't afraid of what he would do next.

That motive is better than a robber who doesn't take anything. Someone lurking in the neighborhood (by his home) waiting for an opportunistic victim who she then doesn't steal anything from him? Just coincidence he lived close by? Way too much smoke especially if the police were told to stand down.

But the best proof that the democrats did it is that they never asked for a special prosecutor to investigate Trump for it.

I have spoken.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 16, 2017 05:53 PM (iWW0H)

318 Trump wanted Comey to stop the Flynn investigation. So the fuck what? There's not one shred of evidence that Flynn did anything to get the Russians to influence the election.

Posted by: Mike at May 16, 2017 05:48 PM (c056A)

Is this the investigation where they just subpoenaed a bunch of Flynn's business records from a few years ago and have empaneled a grand jury?

I think this must around some business deal Flynn did with a Russian company after Obama fired him, but I don't see anything illegal about that generally.

Posted by: LASue at May 16, 2017 05:53 PM (CLKfs)

319 So letting the killer of your son stay hidden, so the slander doesn't come back on the Democrat party.

Now THAT is one helluva donation.

Talk about Party loyalists.

Posted by: Huckleberry Hound at May 16, 2017 05:53 PM (UsCnO)

320 Simple answer - he was a paid Russian agent. Not every agent is the Black Widow. Sometimes you just got to pay a guy a couple of $k to stick a thumb drive in somewhere. Could be he was stupid enough not to know what he was doing. Wikileaks didn't know that. The family (and the police) know, but don't want it known he was a traitor. The FBI has the laptop, and it is part of their Russia investigation. Explains every fact in the case.

Who shot him? His Russian contact. maybe he mouthed off, asked for more money, made threats. Ivan shot him. What is he going to do if he survives, finger Ivan? And go to prison? Nope, he was shot to make a point, probably to others on the payroll - we own you. If he had survived he would have said it was a robbery gone wrong, and given a vague description, and kept his mouth shut, lest Ivan shut it for good.

Simple.

problem is - the Dems HATE this explanation, and surely don't want anyone to say it out loud.

Posted by: GenX at May 16, 2017 05:53 PM (UgF8H)

321 Why doesn't anybody opt for death by being buried up the tops of the shoulders around giant fire ant beds?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:54 PM (2qHjF)

322 >>raises an eyebrow at eleven*

She was old and you are all 29.

Posted by: garrett at May 16, 2017 05:54 PM (IQ71s)

323 " This is so unnatural. So hideous."

-

My FB friends are about 50/50 politically, since I blocked the 100 most obscene, murder-intending DU linkers. I have well over 1000 friends. If politics is the topic, STILL, my feed is 20-1 Trump-hate. Why? WE want to be left alone. We want to enjoy the seasons and our children's accomplishments, the moon phases, OUR dreams. THEY CAN NOT concentrate on anything else but who's in power, because they aren't connected to this power right now. I was this fucking stupid when I was in JA fifty years ago, until I met a future Democratic state rep whose ambition shriveled my sack. These people are this soulless NOW. Unfriend them. Disown them.

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at May 16, 2017 05:54 PM (CvDgu)

324 Schiff speaking now. Congress needs to get to the bottom of this.

oh boy, the deep state must be having a coughing fit from laughing so much.

Posted by: mallfly Obama at May 16, 2017 05:55 PM (ILitO)

325 So this relies on anonymous sources we can't talk to, alleged evidence we can't see, and innuendo that as of yet no one can prove, but merely suggest.
Sounds a lot like the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory the press is pushing.
====

Actually the Trump Russia lie is - a lie. There is a possibility of existing evidence in the Seth Rich case.

Posted by: Mortimer-Finish Her! at May 16, 2017 05:56 PM (wTvP+)

326 320 Simple answer - he was a paid Russian agent. Not every agent is the Black Widow. Sometimes you just got to pay a guy a couple of $k to stick a thumb drive in somewhere. Could be he was stupid enough not to know what he was doing. Wikileaks didn't know that. The family (and the police) know, but don't want it known he was a traitor. The FBI has the laptop, and it is part of their Russia investigation. Explains every fact in the case.

Who shot him? His Russian contact. maybe he mouthed off, asked for more money, made threats. Ivan shot him. What is he going to do if he survives, finger Ivan? And go to prison? Nope, he was shot to make a point, probably to others on the payroll - we own you. If he had survived he would have said it was a robbery gone wrong, and given a vague description, and kept his mouth shut, lest Ivan shut it for good.

Simple.

problem is - the Dems HATE this explanation, and surely don't want anyone to say it out loud.
Posted by: GenX at May 16, 2017 05:53 PM (UgF8H)

I would have demanded several of Russia's finest Whores to be at my dominant service for a 5 year contract if I was him.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:57 PM (2qHjF)

327
So we are Turkey in the 1970s

The Deep State decides our political leadership

This is where we are

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:57 PM (RFVuK)

328 51 >>>On the other hand, I don't understand why a "botched robbery" results in a homicide, and yet the robber leaves behind the guy's wallet. That's real botch, isn't it?

When the gun goes off, you split. A mugger doesn't retire off one 4AM mugging. You want to remain free to keep mugging.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy

What if the gun goes off twice like in this case.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 16, 2017 05:57 PM (iWW0H)

329 3. And yet I also don't understand that if the instrument of this betrayal -- this guy's computer -- had juicy tidbits on it and such (which I'm sure people are hypothesizing), why would the successful assassin not take the computer or bleach-bit it?

you mean, with like a cloth?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 16, 2017 05:58 PM (bmkS9)

330 The family is most likely scared shit-less to say anything other then deny everything.

Someone most likely made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

The PI just wants fame and fortune. He'd better watch his six.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 16, 2017 05:58 PM (5VlCp)

331 >>The DNC emails obtained by Wikileaks revealed internal maneuvering to
railroad Sanders and rig the nomination for Hillary (which led to Debbie
Wasserman-Schultz's resignation, and her immediate re-hiring by
Hillary).

Which reminds me, have they released the cause of death for the lead lawyer in the Bernie supporters' lawsuit against the DNC and DWS - Shawn Lucas?
Found dead by his gf in the bathroom and no cause of death given to family weeks after death was the last I heard.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 16, 2017 05:58 PM (NOIQH)

332 "I usually wouldn't give a post such a lurid headline..."

THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK WILL GET YOU WHACKED BY THE CLINTON CRIME MACHINE...!

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 16, 2017 05:58 PM (6wURk)

333 If this was just a robbery, they would give his laptop back.
This has legs.

Posted by: Mortimer-Finish Her! at May 16, 2017 05:58 PM (wTvP+)

334 Everyday is literally Chinatown.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:58 PM (2qHjF)

335 Folks, a competent hit man would have put one or two into his head to make sure he was dead.

From what I have seen it looks like he fought back and then maybe tried to run. It doesn't take long to fire four shots.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 05:59 PM (0x/TW)

336 So, I pray for this country, and I pray for this President. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at May 16, 2017 05:25 PM (fq4ih)

My family prays for him as well.

Lord please keep our President, his family, his staff and his security detail under your protection. We ask you to guide Donald Trump's steps in righteousness and bring his enemies, which are the enemies of liberty and the American people to justice.

Whether the justice is earthly or by Your almighty Hand.

Amen.

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 05:59 PM (kD8Fh)

337 So letting the killer of your son stay hidden, so the slander doesn't come back on the Democrat party.

Now THAT is one helluva donation.

Talk about Party loyalists.

Posted by: Huckleberry Hound

See Ambassador Stevens and the comments from his family after his death.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2017 05:59 PM (aMV0K)

338 The thing that puzzles me ( well, I'd be puzzled if I didn't know that the media was a propaganda arm for the Democrats) is that a crack reporter wouldn't be all over this story from day one.

Posted by: Awnree at May 16, 2017 06:00 PM (5XZ7Q)

339 Found dead by his gf in the bathroom and no cause of death given to family weeks after death was the last I heard.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 16, 2017 05:58 PM (NOIQH)

Yes, it took medical examiner three months to figure out that it was an accidental death by OD.

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:00 PM (kD8Fh)

340 >>Yes, it took medical examiner three months to figure out that it was an accidental death by OD.

Oh, that makes sense. Not.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 16, 2017 06:01 PM (NOIQH)

341 the swamp refuses to be drained

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 06:01 PM (c6/9Q)

342
It takes forever to get drug panels back from autopsies

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 06:01 PM (RFVuK)

343 327
So we are Turkey in the 1970s

The Deep State decides our political leadership

This is where we are

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:57 PM (RFVuK)

We've been here for several decades at least. The Information Superhighway traveling at light speed in most homes since the late 90's has officially exposed this fact and many more for all to see. Pandora's Box.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 06:01 PM (2qHjF)

344 Hit on Seth Rich?

Yeah, I did. Why do you ask?

Posted by: Shepard Smith at May 16, 2017 06:01 PM (j+dfT)

345 Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 05:59 PM (kD8Fh)

Nice prayer. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 06:02 PM (fDdVG)

346 why assume competence?

Posted by: Lord Sir x at May 16, 2017 06:02 PM (nFwvY)

347 Oh, that makes sense. Not.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 16, 2017 06:01 PM (NOIQH)

My friend died unexpectedly at age 37. The autopsy was turned around in 48 hours, here in bumfuck, PA.

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:02 PM (kD8Fh)

348 The premise for the MSM reporting on the Trump-Comey matter is that the FBI is not really a part of the Executive Branch, that it is a fourth branch of government not under the direction of the president.

What is the crime the FBI was investigating at the time against Flynn? It is not illegal to speak to the Russian ambassador, and it is not illegal to mislead Pence if that is what Flynn did.

By all accounts, Trump has not opposed at all the investigation of the supposed Russian hacking of the DNC or Podesta.

But the president does not need to suffer FBI agents going on fishing expeditions against members of his administration, where no crime can be pointed to, since the FBI is ultimately under his direction.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at May 16, 2017 06:03 PM (m5dkR)

349 If Rich is the source for Wikileaks, then there was NO HACKING, Russian or otherwise. Just a guy with access copying files.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 16, 2017 06:03 PM (oVJmc)

350 Autopsy can be fast. Drug panels are slow

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 06:03 PM (RFVuK)

351 Lord, please give PDT the fortitude of David to keep fighting for us.

Posted by: IC at May 16, 2017 06:03 PM (a0IVu)

352 I think there are at least two deep cover operatives on this blog. Sue me.

Posted by: nip at May 16, 2017 06:04 PM (vOea4)

353 Cicadas are out where I live in Northern Virginia. Never been a fan of the cicada.

Posted by: Weasel at May 16, 2017 06:04 PM (Sfs6o)

354 Nice prayer. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 06:02 PM (fDdVG)

You're welcome.

See the part about the Lord's Almighty Hand?

I was thinking something along the lines of a big building falling on all the Deep State players, including WaPoS.

(That's just a suggestion, Jesus. You may have another method in mind. Your call, Big Guy!)

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:04 PM (kD8Fh)

355 IIRC the Kopechne family remained committed Democrats.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 16, 2017 06:04 PM (jK8Z7)

356 The NYTs is working overtime to impeach PDT

And any RINO that does not realize this is dead to me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 16, 2017 06:04 PM (SjImc)

357 I think some states have some odd rules regarding autopsies.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 06:04 PM (fDdVG)

358 Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:04 PM (kD8Fh)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 06:05 PM (fDdVG)

359
And any RINO that does not realize this is dead to me

They're in on it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 16, 2017 06:05 PM (j3kFd)

360 "which was corroborated by a federal investigator who spoke to Fox News."

I continue to have a problem with this.

Don't know the fix, but...

Posted by: Golfman at May 16, 2017 06:05 PM (nAcpY)

361 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 05:48 PM (2qHjF)

Falling near Shabbat Shuvah, no less.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 16, 2017 06:05 PM (p5Y9F)

362 Why is Carlos Danger not being charged for being a pedo? What about the unmasking that Obama administration did? 650k emails?

Seriously WTF?!?!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 06:05 PM (2qHjF)

363 Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 06:03 PM (RFVuK)

It takes over 90 days in a major metro to get results back? When it's a person of significance...

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:06 PM (kD8Fh)

364 Never been a fan of the cicada.

Posted by: Weasel at May 16, 2017 06:04 PM (Sfs6o)

12 gauge with BB shot....

Or just shoot them with a .22 rifle if you are a good shot.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 16, 2017 06:06 PM (rF0hx)

365 Former FBI Director James Comey associates are leaking more information about his conversations with President Donald Trump, asserting that the president asked Comey to let his former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn go. I hope you can see your way

White House denies
McCabe denied

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 16, 2017 06:07 PM (SjImc)

366 Prince died April 21. They didnt get his drug panels back until June

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 06:07 PM (RFVuK)

367 Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 06:07 PM (RFVuK)

That's still not 90 days

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:08 PM (kD8Fh)

368 Straight outa "House of Cards."

Which was totally believable.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 16, 2017 06:08 PM (U6f54)

369 Folks, a competent hit man would have put one or two into his head to make sure he was dead.

From what I have seen it looks like he fought back and then maybe tried to run. It doesn't take long to fire four shots.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 05:59 PM (0x/TW)

The killer may have lacked finesse and a certain amount of Hollywood cool, but he or she was competent enough to get the job done. The victim is as dead as fried chicken.

Posted by: troyriser at May 16, 2017 06:08 PM (Fw5cQ)

370 Someone who is NOT part of Cyber Security, can be given Administrative access to stuff, so they can do their job....

Now, we KNOW the DNC Cyber Team were crap... if Rich needed access to information that was security protected... like where people are at so they can get them to vote... then the EASIEST way for him to gain that access, would be to make him an Admin...

Which would also give him access to a lot of other stuff...

It happens all the time in corporate America...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 16, 2017 06:09 PM (NgKpN)

371 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 16, 2017 06:07 PM (SjImc)

See 360.

What would happen with you if you leaked the Admiral had a cavity?

Posted by: Golfman at May 16, 2017 06:09 PM (nAcpY)

372 I'm only at comment 37, but -- arrest and jail CONFIRMS whatever the leaker leaked. You can't deny what was leaked or at least insinuate that it's inaccurate if you are entering legal proceedings saying that the info was real and stolen.

Killing someone, however, allows you to attack the leak AND punish the leaker (as an example).

Posted by: sunny-dee at May 16, 2017 06:09 PM (QAOZh)

373 I dreamed Comey was being removed out of his office by a big pincer that I nicknamed the Jaws of Life. This was about two months ago. So when he was shitcanned I figured the dream came true.

But what if there was more than one layer of significance to that dream?

What if Comey is going to be removed from Life As We Know It?

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:10 PM (kD8Fh)

374 President Trump is a modern day Hercules.

He is fighting everyone and everything everyday. I think he likes it and feels right at home.

Here is his morning affirmation:

"It's easy to grin
when your ship comes in
and you've got the stock market beat.
But the man worthwhile
is the man who can smile
when his shorts are too tight in the seat".

Keep fighting Mr. President, let the bastards have it!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 16, 2017 06:10 PM (5VlCp)

375 You all laugh at Hillary being late to change her Depends. Her Depends usually hold nunchuks and ninja stars. She plays a stupid drunk to cover her real life as a Pirate Ninja General Assassin. Do not laugh, she takes it personally.

Posted by: Zombie Seth Rich Isn't Laughing at May 16, 2017 06:10 PM (KkdSg)

376 I think there are at least two deep cover operatives on this blog. Sue me.
====

Deep deep DEEP undercover. They are waiting for The Signal.

Posted by: Mortimer-Finish Her! at May 16, 2017 06:10 PM (wTvP+)

377 It takes over 90 days in a major metro to get results back? When it's a person of significance...

Posted by: kallisto
****

In a major metro city it makes sense. Body backlogue.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:11 PM (0x/TW)

378 Circadia - harmless -- ugly but harmless

"Everything - birds, rodents, small mammals, even snakes, lizards, and fish will feed heavily on cicadas when they are out," said Keith Clay, a biologist and periodical-cicada expert at Indiana University in Bloomington.

Posted by: Timothy Hayfield at May 16, 2017 06:11 PM (c+z1/)

379 If Rich is the source for Wikileaks, then there was NO HACKING, Russian or otherwise. Just a guy with access copying files.

Say Comey knew it was Rich, and was instrumental in concocting the fake 'Russian' angle.

Wiki already has disclosed that the IC has the ability to fake hacking 'fingerprints' and make them look like they belong to other parties.

This alone makes the IC's assertion that they found Russian fingerprints completely meaningless, or even the finding of ANY 'fingerprints' at all.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 16, 2017 06:12 PM (oVJmc)

380 Also, re why the emails were still on the laptop: I honestly think the Clintons are so inept and idiotic that they really wouldn't realize that the files were in the computer. Like, Podesta clicks on obvious, 1994-style phishing links, Hillary wipes servers like with a cloth ... these are not brilliant people. They're simply ruthless.

Posted by: sunny-dee at May 16, 2017 06:12 PM (QAOZh)

381 376-I read that in Eddie Murphy/Axel Foley voice.

Posted by: nip at May 16, 2017 06:12 PM (vOea4)

382 376 Mortimer

The chair is against the wall...

Posted by: ibguy at May 16, 2017 06:12 PM (vUcdz)

383 The Deep State is doing their utmost to take out Trump, and their tactic du jour is claim he has obstructed justice, on basically no evidence.

But what about obstruction of justice by Comey, Lynch, Yates, McCabe and anyone else in the DOJ/FBI who whitewashed the Clinton email investigation, or who discouraged field agents from investigating the Clinton Foundation?

Many of the decisions made in the Clinton investigation were clear departures from decisions that would be made by objective, uncorrupted prosecutors and investigators.

How about the AG publicly appointing a special deputy to lead an investigation into this corruption?

Let's not go down without fighting.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at May 16, 2017 06:12 PM (m5dkR)

384 I know I'm late, but since the family didn't know anything about him leaking, that means he didn't do it?

That's the implication I'm seeing.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 16, 2017 06:13 PM (Twi6G)

385 "The Deep State decides our political leadership

This is where we are

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 05:57 PM (RFVuK)"

-----------

This is where we were until Trump's win and that is why the wailing and gnashing of teeth by the Deep State and the DNC/MSM. How dare the peasants think they have a say in this?

Posted by: Decaf at May 16, 2017 06:13 PM (oH94U)

386 Killing someone, however, allows you to attack the leak AND punish the leaker (as an example).

Posted by: sunny-dee at May 16, 2017 06:09 PM (QAOZh)

WikiLeaks published that one email by Pedosta where he encouraged severely punishing leakers.

It's all over twitter today, or just do a search on WikiLeaks.org.

or as the FAB called it, Wikipedia leaks.

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:14 PM (kD8Fh)

387 342
It takes forever to get drug panels back from autopsies
Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 06:01 PM (RFVuK)

And even longer for the ME (or pathologist) to interpret them sometimes.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut Im at May 16, 2017 06:14 PM (CPk08)

388 Good grief, the Pres must be out of his mind with anger right now, being accused of treachery towards his country?

Luckily most Americans know Trump is a patriot thru and thru.

Posted by: Pam at May 16, 2017 06:14 PM (cF0hS)

389 Mortimer

The chair is against the wall...

Posted by: ibguy at May 16, 2017 06:12 PM (vUcdz)

the eagle flew south...

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 06:14 PM (c6/9Q)

390
I dreamed Comey was being removed out of his office by a big pincer that I nicknamed the Jaws of Life.

The Craw

https://youtu.be/ftgAG3Vnif8

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 16, 2017 06:14 PM (IqV8l)

391 I know I'm late, but since the family didn't know anything about him leaking, that means he didn't do it?

Honestly, why WOULD they know?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 16, 2017 06:15 PM (oVJmc)

392 Folks, a competent hit man would have put one or two into his head to make sure he was dead.

From what I have seen it looks like he fought back and then maybe tried to run. It doesn't take long to fire four shots.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 05:59 PM (0x/TW)

The killer may have lacked finesse and a certain amount of Hollywood cool, but he or she was competent enough to get the job done. The victim is as dead as fried chicken.

Posted by: troyriser
****

He was alive when found. He died at the hospital.
Suggests amateur to me. Considering the potential fallout if the victim lives and the hit man is caught, such a chance would not be taken.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:15 PM (0x/TW)

393 The chair is against the wall...

Posted by: ibguy at May 16, 2017 06:12 PM (vUcdz)

the eagle flew south...
Posted by: runner

Snoopy likes his doghouse.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2017 06:15 PM (aMV0K)

394 Yeah these guys had at least four years worth of Hillary The Wonderful Woman President stories already in the can. They have to work now.
They are pissed.

Posted by: Mortimer-Finish Her! at May 16, 2017 06:15 PM (wTvP+)

395 CNN- In a growing sign of the disconnect between President Trump and American voters, the President has defended the re-positioning of the American anti-ballistic missile system (ABM) to defend Mexico. Thereby leaving vast stretches of the west coast, and many major cities undefended.

'Sure, there's bad hombres down there,' the President said, referring to Mexico, 'but Americans want these hombres in their cities. Without this system to protect them that might never happen.'

Posted by: CNN Breaking News at May 16, 2017 06:16 PM (HTdUD)

396 It could have been a robbery gone wrong or an assassination. Nothing is out of the question anymore and I trust no one.

Everyman for themselves is my motto these days.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 16, 2017 06:16 PM (IDPbH)

397 Oh guys, come on:

John has a long mustache....John has a long mustache

Posted by: browndog at May 16, 2017 06:17 PM (bGMOs)

398 these are not brilliant people. They're simply ruthless.

Posted by: sunny-dee at May 16, 2017 06:12 PM (QAOZh)

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to accomplish Jack Shit when you have the entire government and media apparatus doing your heavy lifting. These despots and tyrants are ENTITLED, you see.

If I had Deep State backing my sorry ass, maybe I'd be chiseling ice sculptures with Huma on Branson's private island right now, instead of filing my biweekly UC claim, lol.

FML

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:17 PM (kD8Fh)

399 The chair is against the wall...

Posted by: ibguy at May 16, 2017 06:12 PM (vUcdz)

the eagle flew south...

Posted by: runner

Snoopy likes his doghouse.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2017 06:15 PM (aMV0K)
green meadow lays flat...

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 06:18 PM (c6/9Q)

400 399 runner

As does St Rachel....

Posted by: ibguy at May 16, 2017 06:19 PM (vUcdz)

401 >>>140 MacFadyen was a 76 year old man with lung cancer.

And Breitbart was a 43 year old man with heart issues.

Posted by: S at May 16, 2017 06:19 PM (poT2p)

402 As a follow along to the earlier comment about WeaselZippers.

I use Brave and Firefox and I am still getting redirected bogus sites.

Posted by: browndog at May 16, 2017 06:19 PM (bGMOs)

403 The major news outlets can't have an hour ago by that they're not pasting "alert alert" on their Chyron and screaming some new outrageous thing Trump has done . I hope Trump takes Newt's advice and simply stops doing press briefings.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 16, 2017 06:19 PM (62eBc)

404 The tits have a monotonous languor...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 16, 2017 06:19 PM (oVJmc)

405 Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:15 PM (0x/TW)

Unless he knew the shooter, him living would make no difference IMO if it was a hit. Still would be considered a robbery gone wrong most likely.

If shell casings were found, then I would agree with you not a hit.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 16, 2017 06:20 PM (IDPbH)

406 What would happen with you if you leaked the Admiral had a cavity?
Posted by: Golfman at May 16, 2017 06:09 PM (nAcpY)

Depends which Cavity your talking about

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 16, 2017 06:20 PM (SjImc)

407 Does anybody think that in 4 years, our country will still be intact and not be Balkinized? We limped into 2016 election for crying out loud.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 06:20 PM (2qHjF)

408 We will stop at nothing...

Posted by: Bill Ayers at May 16, 2017 06:20 PM (DpOmP)

409 Or just shoot them with a .22 rifle if you are a good shot.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 16, 2017 06:06 PM (rF0hx)
------------
Well I have some skills!

It occurs to me these cicadas missed the entire debacle that was obama.

Posted by: Weasel at May 16, 2017 06:20 PM (Sfs6o)

410 This house sho gone crazy.

Here is the thing on Russia-Trump collusion: there is no evidence. FB Lefties are all like only the most bizarre and hyperpartisan can be defending Trump!

But you know who says there is no evidence of Russia-Trump collusion? Senator Dianne Feinstein, that's who.

The IC did not determine that there were Russian fingerprints on the DNC hack - because they never looked at the DNC server. Because the DNC wouldn't let them. Instead, they had a hired cybersecurity firm that said that. Hired by the DNC. And the "fingerprints?" Ninja super sophisticated can only be a state actor hackers left behind a word document with a Russian name in the document properties. Ooopsie!

And thus the world's hair is on fire.

Some day a real rain will fall, and wash all the scum off the Deep State....

Posted by: blaster at May 16, 2017 06:21 PM (HV1LS)

411 What would happen with you if you leaked the Admiral had a cavity?
Posted by: Golfman at May 16, 2017 06:09 PM (nAcpY)

Does he get it filled by seamen?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 16, 2017 06:21 PM (oVJmc)

412 As does St Rachel....

Posted by: ibguy at May 16, 2017 06:19 PM (vUcdz)

pancakes are stacked, may fall.. *** --- ***

Posted by: runner at May 16, 2017 06:21 PM (c6/9Q)

413 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 16, 2017 06:14 PM (IqV8l)

That's funny! I like goofy humor like when Steve Martin as Clouseau was trying to learn English by ordering l'hamburger

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:22 PM (kD8Fh)

414 Rich was in fact an IT guy? "Working for the DNC developing software to help voters locate their polling places."

"According to the unnamed federal investigator, 44,053 emails and 17,761
attachments between DNC leaders were transferred from Rich to [Wikileaks] MacFadyen
before May 21, 2016. This is exactly the number of documents posted by
WikiLeaks" on July 22.

So he transferred the emails 6-7 weeks before he was killed. And probably blabbed about it to his GF and other Sanders supporters, believing he was a whistleblower, doing good and righting a wrong.

Summary + the latest at okcfox.com

Posted by: Lab Rat at May 16, 2017 06:22 PM (hAbrX)

415 Good grief, the Pres must be out of his mind with anger right now, being accused of treachery towards his country?

Luckily most Americans know Trump is a patriot thru and thru.
--

But they don't.

50% of the nation are rabid libtards who want Trump to fail.

As for the 50% who support Trump, well, it hard not to be influenced by the constant hysterical MSM caterwauling of "TRUMP RUSSIA IMPEACH" that's now going on 24/7. That kind of constant propaganda is what makes North Koreans think they are the greatest country in the world. Prager pointed that out today.

/yeah, I don't believe any of it, but there are a lot of people- especially senior citizens-- who think the MSM is unbiased.

Posted by: shibumi at May 16, 2017 06:22 PM (BPeNq)

416 Where's AllenG when you need him/

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at May 16, 2017 06:23 PM (+tRIN)

417 Was a Murdered DNC Official Sending Emails to Wikileaks?

Like, from the dead?

Posted by: TexasDan at May 16, 2017 06:23 PM (yL25O)

418 Ahh! Home from work.

*makes martini*

*sits down*

*fires up computer, tunes into HQ*

*sips martini*

Aw crap! I forgot to vote on my way home!

Posted by: rickl at May 16, 2017 06:24 PM (sdi6R)

419 Folks, a competent hit man would have put one or two into his head to make sure he was dead.

Well, this is a Hillary Clinton operation, after all.

Posted by: surprised they didn't give Lewis a mislabeled button at May 16, 2017 06:24 PM (wpC7C)

420 Oh guys, come on:

John has a long mustache....John has a long mustache
Posted by: browndog

The tits are not calm. I repeat, the tits are not calm.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2017 06:24 PM (aMV0K)

421 He was alive when found. He died at the hospital.
Suggests amateur to me. Considering the potential fallout if the victim lives and the hit man is caught, such a chance would not be taken.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:15 PM (0x/TW)

Should be noted most criminals are twisted and screwed-up mental defectives of one sort or another--violent criminals especially so. I doubt real killers-for-hire are the suave and debonair masterminds of the public imagination.

Posted by: troyriser at May 16, 2017 06:24 PM (Fw5cQ)

422 Bottom Line: The Left and the MSM are never going to let up. This is only the beginning. We are headed for the abyss

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 16, 2017 06:25 PM (SjImc)

423 #268 I thought the Russian ambassador was being monitored, not Flynn? /sarc

Posted by: andycanuck at May 16, 2017 06:25 PM (nlbfN)

424 Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:15 PM (0x/TW)

Unless he knew the shooter, him living would make no difference IMO if it was a hit. Still would be considered a robbery gone wrong most likely.

If shell casings were found, then I would agree with you not a hit.

Posted by: Jack Sock
****

Say you were paid by the CCS (Clinton Crime Syndicate) and botched the hit and the guy lived. You would be next to go. Anyone willing to pay you to murder will certainly kill you if you fail.

I really think this is just a robbery gone wrong. Yes I can understand why people think otherwise these days, but the evidence simply isn't there AFAIC.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:26 PM (0x/TW)

425 402 As a follow along to the earlier comment about WeaselZippers.

I use Brave and Firefox and I am still getting redirected bogus sites.
Posted by: browndog at May 16, 2017 06:19 PM (bGMOs)

I use Epic, and also got that earlier. I force quit Epic rather than click on anything.

Posted by: rickl at May 16, 2017 06:26 PM (sdi6R)

426 Here is something that a lot of people are not clear on - the Left is accusing Trump of capital T Treason. In short, they want him dead, nothing else will be acceptable.

It is going to be a long hot summer.

Posted by: blaster at May 16, 2017 06:26 PM (HV1LS)

427 Even FOX is running with the comey/flyn story...the rest of the MSM must be have a party on their networks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 16, 2017 06:26 PM (SjImc)

428 Looking for an Ette for the end of the world.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 06:26 PM (2qHjF)

429 Folks, a competent hit man would have put one or two into his head to make sure he was dead.>>>>

Could have been a thug hired to do it. Not that I think he was assassinated but just playing devil's advocate.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 16, 2017 06:27 PM (IDPbH)

430 #331 => Lizzy, I have no idea. But it sure is weird how often people who get in Hillary's way wind up dead.

Posted by: Lab Rat at May 16, 2017 06:28 PM (hAbrX)

431

Woody Harrelsons father was a hitman. Killed a judge. They think he killed between 12-20 people

And a total fuck up. No money. No home. Beat his GF. Boozed and gambled and drugged the very small money he made

Posted by: ThunderB at May 16, 2017 06:28 PM (RFVuK)

432 The explanation to Ace's points number 567 and 568 above are that this could be a murder, plain and simple, by one of the aggrieved parties.

Let's say John Podesta finds out his spirit cooking escapades are about to be the topic du jour.

Let's say John gets upset enough to whack someone.

John Podesta is not an assassin or a doctor, so he fails to kill his victim outright or mistakenly evaluates unconsciousness as death.

John Podesta is also not thinking clearly enough, or lacks the catburglary skills, to steal the laptop. Plus, he's already been told that the cat is out of the bag. He's not trying to cover up, he's really just straight out taking revenge.

So not a botched burglary.
Not a botched assassination.
Not a botched coverup.

Because it's none of those things. It's simple murder by someone pissed at the whistleblower, perhaps for very personal reasons.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 16, 2017 06:28 PM (yL25O)

433 The hot dog lacks ketchup...the hot dog lacks ketchup.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 16, 2017 06:29 PM (kTF2Z)

434 Deep deep DEEP undercover. They are waiting for The Signal.

Posted by: Mortimer-Finish Her! at May 16, 2017 06:10 PM (wTvP+)

Winona is on her period. She has no tampons.

Posted by: Deep State Maxwell Smart giving The Signal. at May 16, 2017 06:29 PM (kD8Fh)

435 429. Heh....wanna get truly devious? You use a thug to do the hit, then whack the thug. Better, in fact, if Thug #1 has a record for narcotics or the like.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 16, 2017 06:29 PM (EVaa+)

436 I really think this is just a robbery gone wrong. Yes I can understand why people think otherwise these days, but the evidence simply isn't there AFAIC.

Shot in the back, nothing taken. Wallet, cash, credit cards, $2k gold necklace left untouched.

Talk about evidence that it was a robbery that isn't there.
Even a botched robbery is done from the front.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2017 06:30 PM (aMV0K)

437 He was alive when found. He died at the hospital.
Suggests amateur to me. Considering the potential fallout if the victim lives and the hit man is caught, such a chance would not be taken.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:15 PM (0x/TW)

Should be noted most criminals are twisted and screwed-up mental defectives of one sort or another--violent criminals especially so. I doubt real killers-for-hire are the suave and debonair masterminds of the public imagination.

Posted by: troyriser
*****

There are enough cold blooded and level headed killers out there available for hire if you have the right contacts, which people are saying the CCS has.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:30 PM (+aCe4)

438
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Posted by: Licolnsire Poacer at May 16, 2017 06:30 PM (c+z1/)

439 I'm not trying to shit on Seth Rich, but he seems a little light in the loafers. Maybe there was some crazy shit that came up that his parents didn't want out there?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 06:31 PM (2qHjF)

440 From 4chan user, via Gateway Pundit commenter:

http://tinyurl.com/n5d8cke

Gist of it:

Jennifer Palmieri, Hillary's Director of Communications, ordered the Seth Rich hit. Robbie Mook and John Podesta knew about it, and the DC police force was "told" it was a robbery. Someone in SEIU did the deed; police chief is covering up; he's a pedophile. Huma and Hillary also were in on it.

Posted by: shibumi at May 16, 2017 06:31 PM (BPeNq)

441 BTW, no one is mentioning what Rich did at the DNC. He was in charge of community outreach and GOTV efforts. As in -- he was in a very prime position to recognize any cheating that Hillary was doing in the primaries.

Posted by: sunny-dee at May 16, 2017 06:31 PM (QAOZh)

442 435
Heh....wanna get truly devious? You use a thug to do the hit, then whack the thug.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 16, 2017 06:29 PM (EVaa+)

Nah, that only happens in the movies.

Posted by: Zombie Lee Harvey Oswald at May 16, 2017 06:31 PM (sdi6R)

443 No evidence of any Trump crime: Media can't report anything else!

Actual Evidence of crime bleeding on their shoes: Not interested. Move on, citizens.

As a thought experiment, try running it in reverse: a murdered RNC staffer, a non-robbed robbery victim whom Julian Ass ange is tweeting about.

Still no interest? Or FRONT PAGE COVERAGE FOR MONTHS BY OUR HEROIC UNBIASED SEEKERS OF TRUTHINESS?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 16, 2017 06:31 PM (Ndje9)

444 Heh....wanna get truly devious? You use a thug to do the hit, then whack the thug. Better, in fact, if Thug #1 has a record for narcotics or the like.

Standard movie of the week.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2017 06:32 PM (aMV0K)

445 Heard Wheeler on WMAL, both morning and evening, and suspect he's going public because he knows this is deep and dangerous. He's got lots of professional investigator friends here in D.C. where he has worked for years, and to hear him relate that those still in the force only reply with blank stares when he asks if they have even looked at Seth Rich's personal/professional relationships is chilling. (Blank stare is apparently professional trade craft for "We can't say but you know the answer.") Wheeler also said that his understanding of the contract with Rich's parents did not include a gag deal, only that he not represent himself as speaking for the family. Screw the fact that the FBI or D.C. homicide has secreted Rich's cell phone and lap tops away where no one can find them, all this story needs is a quick call from Trump to the NSA.

Posted by: Yankee Doodler at May 16, 2017 06:32 PM (wDfaV)

446 Donny Two Scoops had Seth whacked to make it look like Hillary's wrecking crew were settling business with the guy.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 16, 2017 06:32 PM (EVaa+)

447 @Widespread Pepe. He had a girlfriend and was on his way home from her apartment. He was probably a typical liberal beta, but not light in the heels.

Posted by: sunny-dee at May 16, 2017 06:33 PM (QAOZh)

448 Posted by: shibumi at May 16, 2017 06:31 PM (BPeNq)

LAWD, LAWD, LAWDY LAWD

Hand to God:

If that scenario turns out to be true, I will post an AtC election night type pic on this here smart military blog.

I can't promise as righteous a rack as the illustrious Alex; however they ARE bewbs.

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:33 PM (kD8Fh)

449 Just because this guy sent emails to wikileaks, doesn't mean that is why he was killed. It is suggestive, but not definitive.

Rod Wheeler was on WMAL today with Larry O'Connor who is, I believe, a lurking moron.

Wheeler was clear that he had a contract with the parents of Seth Rich. His position on not talking to the press is that he is not barred from speaking to the press, but from doing so on behalf of the family. He acknowledges that the parents released a statement that they do not believe that their son had contact with wikileaks. He suggests that perhaps they themselves have been threatened.

This would all be so much bullshit if Obama and that crowd were not HUGE fans of House of Cards.

Posted by: blaster at May 16, 2017 06:33 PM (HV1LS)

450 Just another 'conveniently deceased' person...

...nothing to see here, move along.

--Da Presstitutes

.......OH LOOK!!11! RUSSIANS!!!

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 16, 2017 06:34 PM (Quwsn)

451 Shot in the back, nothing taken. Wallet, cash, credit cards, $2k gold necklace left untouched.

Talk about evidence that it was a robbery that isn't there.
Even a botched robbery is done from the front.

Posted by: rickb223
****
Fact: The neighborhood had been hit by a rash of armed robberies before he was murdered.

Fact: The police said he showed injuries consistent with fighting back

Earlier in a thread I posted a link to an article where an armed robber shot a guy and took off with nothing.
Again, I have read about multiple failed armed robberies where the robber murdered the victim and took off empty handed in panic.
It is far more likely that it was a failed robbery than an assassination.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:35 PM (m3iiU)

452 Heh....wanna get truly devious? You use a thug to do the hit, then whack the thug. Better, in fact, if Thug #1 has a record for narcotics or the like.

Standard movie of the week.

---

Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK. Jack Ruby Shot Oswald
The science is settled. The consensus was unanimous. Historians all agree, Oswald acted alone.

Posted by: Licolnsire Poacer at May 16, 2017 06:35 PM (c+z1/)

453 I think he got killed by the mugger but in typical Clinton fashion the PoPo called her people when they found the laptop and what was on it.

Then boom! full cover up ops till this day.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 16, 2017 06:37 PM (5VlCp)

454 Posted by: blaster at May 16, 2017 06:33 PM (HV1LS)

Seems like Rod Wheeler better keep his head on a swivel if he is correct that there is something nefarious about this murder.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 16, 2017 06:37 PM (IDPbH)

455 440 From 4chan user, via Gateway Pundit commenter:

http://tinyurl.com/n5d8cke

Gist of it:

Jennifer Palmieri, Hillary's Director of Communications, ordered the Seth Rich hit. Robbie Mook and John Podesta knew about it, and the DC police force was "told" it was a robbery. Someone in SEIU did the deed; police chief is covering up; he's a pedophile. Huma and Hillary also were in on it.

Posted by: shibumi at May 16, 2017 06:31 PM (BPeNq)

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But under this theory, how did Palmieri et al know that Seth Rich had stolen any emails, much less give them to Wikileaks?

The emails were not publicly revealed by Wikileaks until AFTER Rich had been killed.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at May 16, 2017 06:38 PM (m5dkR)

456 Wheeler also related that during the course of his investigation, after asking other investigators about the Rich's lap tops, he quickly received a call from a DNC representative wanting to know the nature of his interest.

Posted by: Yankee Doodler at May 16, 2017 06:39 PM (wDfaV)

457 >>>Talk about evidence that it was a robbery that isn't there.
Even a botched robbery is done from the front.

Muggers can and do operate in teams. Ask Henry Rollins, Joe Cole was killed when they were mugged by two. Two muggers give more targets (single individuals, couples) and can split if pursued.
Lots of ways to approach target, but splitting is not unheard of. Most people will tend to fixate on the one in front they spot, who may draw their attention or approach. Strong arm is behind.

And yes there were reports of groups of muggers doing strong arm robberies (why police were on foot patrol nearby). Neighborhood also had shotspotter (only in 1/3 of DC and neighborhoods with gunfire).

You don't come here for the camping, do you?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 16, 2017 06:39 PM (RRmoB)

458 I think he got killed by the mugger but in typical Clinton fashion the PoPo called her people when they found the laptop and what was on it.

Then boom! full cover up ops till this day.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy
****

That would make more sense than anything else.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:39 PM (uhftQ)

459 The Clintons are pure poison. Anyone who double-crosses them is eliminated. They have a history of this. So, no, I am not suspecting a botched robbery.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 16, 2017 06:39 PM (+eKyB)

460 Widespread Pepe. He had a girlfriend and was on his way home from her apartment. He was probably a typical liberal beta, but not light in the heels.
Posted by: sunny-dee at May 16, 2017 06:33 PM (QAOZh)

I meant in the closet type of deal. I don't want to shit on him and not trying to but DC seems to be the Mecca of that stuff..... Well second to San Fran. But first in the closet type stuff.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 06:40 PM (2qHjF)

461 It is far more likely that it was a failed robbery than an assassination.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:35 PM (m3iiU)

This is true; if we had no other information about the crime or the victim we should place our bets on the botched robbery.

But in his case we know other details which are a believable motive for murder.

Neither argument proves the thing either way, but it would be foolish to not actually investigate the thing knowing the particulars of the case.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 16, 2017 06:40 PM (yL25O)

462 It's not just right wingers who believe Seth Rich death suspicious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhQ_kuAcItI

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:41 PM (kD8Fh)

463 This was no boating accident.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 16, 2017 06:41 PM (oVJmc)

464 It takes over 90 days in a major metro to get results back?

That doesn't seem very long time when you consider the amount of crime on NoVa; probably plenty of backlog.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 16, 2017 06:43 PM (p5Y9F)

465 It is far more likely that it was a failed robbery than an assassination.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:35 PM (m3iiU)

This is true; if we had no other information about the crime or the victim we should place our bets on the botched robbery.

But in his case we know other details which are a believable motive for murder.

Neither argument proves the thing either way, but it would be foolish to not actually investigate the thing knowing the particulars of the case.

Posted by: TexasDan
****

I am not against checking things out. My opinion is simply that this will go nowhere because it wasn't a hit.
The PI is likely chasing his 15 minutes of fame.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 16, 2017 06:44 PM (uhftQ)

466 >>>I meant in the closet type of deal. I don't want to shit on him and not trying to but DC seems to be the Mecca of that stuff..... Well second to San Fran. But first in the closet type stuff.

You don't want to shit on him but you will. Way to smear a dead man with no evidence. Classy.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 16, 2017 06:44 PM (RRmoB)

467 If I had been a Bernie Sanders supporter I would think the death of Seth Rich was quite suspicious.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2017 06:45 PM (fDdVG)

468 >>>The PI is likely chasing his 15 minutes of fame.

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER
Just like the "former Bond girl".

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 16, 2017 06:46 PM (RRmoB)

469 Jennifer Palmieri, Hillary's Director of Communications, ordered the Seth Rich hit. Robbie Mook and John Podesta knew about it, and the DC police force was "told" it was a robbery. Someone in SEIU did the deed; police chief is covering up; he's a pedophile. Huma and Hillary also were in on it.

Posted by: shibumi at May 16, 2017 06:31 PM (BPeNq)

Here is the problem with that. The police chief was until recently a woman. (I don't mean its a xhe, I mean that she recently retired) So the "he is a pedophile" thing is an error of detail.

Posted by: blaster at May 16, 2017 06:47 PM (HV1LS)

470 From 4chan user, via Gateway Pundit commenter:

http://tinyurl.com/n5d8cke

Gist of it:

Jennifer Palmieri, Hillary's Director of Communications, ordered the Seth Rich hit. Robbie Mook and John Podesta knew about it, and the DC police force was "told" it was a robbery. Someone in SEIU did the deed; police chief is covering up; he's a pedophile. Huma and Hillary also were in on it.

Posted by: shibumi at May 16, 2017 06:31 PM (BPeNq)

We should hang out. Dinner?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 16, 2017 06:48 PM (2qHjF)

471 I doubt real killers-for-hire are the suave and debonair masterminds of the public imagination.
Just like whiny NeverTrump dicks.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 16, 2017 06:50 PM (nlbfN)

472 Dead folks do have a way of ending up near the Clintons, that's for damn sure.

But was he supposed to have been leaking?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 16, 2017 06:50 PM (p5Y9F)

473 "His Name Was Seth Rich..and He Was Probably the DNC Leaker"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6glz4Xluby8

"this is the kind of killing you would expect from the Klintoons"

Posted by: kallisto at May 16, 2017 06:53 PM (kD8Fh)

474 Having not the time to read 400+ comments, I would remind all that the DNC refused the FBI access to its servers as part of the bullshit "hacking" investigation. That there tells me there was no hack, it was an inside job.

Remember too that Roger Stone has contacts with Assange and has said that the DNC email trove was provided by Rich in person to a person, not emailed. This may be inconsistent with parts of the Fox story. Lastly, rumor had it that Seth was on the way to talking to the authorities about his discoveries which would have made murder more likely than "punishing" for something past.

I think he was murdered for the reason that he found stuff and was going to the feds with it.

Posted by: pissed off oddnot at May 16, 2017 06:59 PM (g1MTt)

475 >>>Lastly, rumor had it that Seth was on the way to talking to the authorities about his discoveries

Sure! At 4 in the morning! After a couple beers! Who doesn't do that?
:::eyes hurt from rolling so hard:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 16, 2017 07:03 PM (RrhD2)

476 I think Rod Wheeler is telling stories that he has heard. They are not based on anything he has seen.

Apparently Fox has an independent story from a different person that is congruent.

This number 44053 has that sheen of fake precision.

I say mostly meh.

Posted by: blaster at May 16, 2017 07:08 PM (HV1LS)

477 The lad was harvested for spirit cooking, you ninnies.

Posted by: Fritz at May 16, 2017 07:11 PM (TNQMS)

478 I've thought he was the leaker since his death--wayy pre-RUSSIA of course.
I believe family spokesman, given unto them by DNC after death, is a big Dem. I think they've been ... influenced.
Shot in back 2x, was talking to his gf, almost at his house.
Podesta did make dire comment about leakers.
John Ashe choked by weight. Shawn Lucas..mean bathroom floor, ~50 others weird sloppy deaths. It's a Clinton thing for sure.

Posted by: josco at May 16, 2017 07:12 PM (Iehkh)

479 Oh, I heard FBI had laptop. So, you know... black hole. And that DC police chief is fully capable of cover up.

Posted by: josco at May 16, 2017 07:14 PM (Iehkh)

480 A botched robbery? Only if the robber wanted his wallet and credit cards. What if he wanted a thumb drive?

And the emails released to Wikileaks may not have been everything he could get his hands on. The murder may have prevented the release of more damaging documents - which would also answer why they did not have him arrested but chose a 'safer' option.

Posted by: lyle at May 16, 2017 08:23 PM (52XKC)

481 474,
" I would remind all that the DNC refused the FBI access to its servers as part of the bullshit "hacking" investigation"

They learned well from Watergate where they did let the FBI and the phone company look for bugs. They found none. A week later the DNC called the FBI and exclaimed they had found one. It was a huge, kluge, Radio Schlock parts, and didn't work. That was embarrassing to the DNC so this time no FBI gets to look.

Posted by: geoffb5 at May 16, 2017 08:35 PM (d3wbb)

482 A botched robbery?

YGTBKM

Posted by: torabora at May 16, 2017 08:54 PM (rmw4/)

483 There is a lot of back-and-forth over The Laptop. But almost everyone has multiple devices. Would the cops even know if the key one was missing? Did they recover all his phones, tablets, and drives?

It has always seemed plausible that the leaks came from inside. Foreign hackers would not have recognized these interior DNC emails as damaging. And Crowdstrike, the democrat outfit that had sole access to the DNC system and proclaimed its penetration a Russian hack-job, has quietly rescinded its report.

Posted by: lyle at May 16, 2017 08:55 PM (52XKC)

484 I go for walks through crime infested D.C. neighbors at 4am all the time...carrying my laptop and thumb drive.

Actually I go for meet ups to sell the stuff I stole.

Actually I'm just looking for some stra....

*blam blam*

Posted by: Zombie Seth Rich at May 16, 2017 08:58 PM (rmw4/)

485 Why hasn't the MFMSM blamed the Russians?

Posted by: torabora at May 16, 2017 09:00 PM (rmw4/)

486 who goes out for a 4am stroll in DC wearing a 2k gold necklace?

dat true

Posted by: Your Friendly DC Mugger at May 16, 2017 09:22 PM (rmw4/)

487 Being skeptical is always good IF you also research. The slack dismissal of Clinton body count -- if you haven't looked into it, is naive.

Posted by: josco at May 16, 2017 11:05 PM (Iehkh)

488 Wheeler, per other news outlets, is claiming that those words were him previewing Fox's story, not his own independent information.

Either:
A)Fox News completely made up a story and has been caught red handed
Or
B)Someone got to Wheeler

Posted by: New Update at May 16, 2017 11:30 PM (UGEAq)

489 This is how HillaryCare works. Seth should have known that.

Posted by: Diggs at May 17, 2017 10:06 AM (iB2Gj)

490 If this murder happened in July of 2016 could preventing further leaks by the same person been the motive?
Getting rid of him by firing would have left him to free to blab some more and give his motive for the leaks.
Funny nobody seems to mention this possibility.

Posted by: Daniel at May 17, 2017 10:15 AM (e3bIv)

491 Recently, a State's (Commonwealth) attorney in Kentucky ran afoul of the legal system when a legal aide she did not give a raise to pulled email and text messages off a server and gave them to the KY Attorney General's office. He did not have authority to access that data either. My point: the DNC was lax in its IT security, as were Podesta and Hillary herself. You would not have to be much of a hacker to gain access - it happens all the time.

Search cincinnati.com for Linda Tally Smith for details.

Posted by: KY_boy at May 17, 2017 10:29 AM (L59C2)

492 I'm waiting on more evidence....but I wouldn't put anything past anyone in Washington. Scumbags, all.

Posted by: IndivDude at May 17, 2017 10:31 AM (P9cxH)

493 RE: "If a botched robbery is hard to believe, so is a botched assassination -- Seth Rich was apparently still alive when he reached the hospital."
Answer: A little of both. Possible scenario:
1. He was ambushed outside his apartment by two men intent on: (1) intimidation; (2) getting his laptop and any backup media; and (3) finding out what he did (i.e. how much had he given them). He fought refused and fought back (he had bruises). They didn't intend to shoot him, but things went bad.

Posted by: kevino at May 17, 2017 11:25 AM (noq2N)

494 RE: "According to Fox News sources, federal law enforcement investigators [FBI] found 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments sent between DNC leaders from January 2015 to May 2016 that Rich shared with WikiLeaks before he was gunned down on July 10, 2016."
How many of the 44,053 emails have been published by WikiLeaks? Seriously, that is not a difficult question. If the emails on Rich's laptop are a superset of the emails that WikiLeaks has, then he is a possible source of the leak. If not, just tell us. If so, then the "Russia-hacked-us" claim goes out the window -- completely.

Posted by: kevino at May 17, 2017 11:28 AM (noq2N)

495 Quote: "1. I don't understand the motive for the murder, if we're talking about revenge-for-the-leaks as the motive. The leaks were already leaked."

If memory serves me correctly, Wikileaks didn't publish those documents until a week after his death. Those ordering the killing may not have known he had already passed them along.

As to why they didn't take and destroy his laptop, keep in mind these people were techno-illiterate enough to let him steal from them in the first place. They might not have been clever enough to know police would be able to find those documents, perhaps buried deeply. He may have also stored the documents two places, with the second being a flash drive he carried with him. They may have stolen and destroyed the second, unaware of the first.

They may have also assumed that his murder would be written off as a clumsy robbery attempt. After all, D.C. does have a lot of murders. And in that case, the police would have no reason to look at his laptop.

Here, the answer to a conspiracy v. stupidity debate might be resolved by saying it could be both. It could be badly executed conspiracy.

Posted by: Mike Perry at May 17, 2017 12:19 PM (67gIY)

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