Kick. The. Can.

Promises, promises.

Republicans shutting down government, Bad. Democrats shutting down government, Good. Government shutdown averted.

A deal has been reached on a $1 trillion-plus bill to fund the government for the final five months of this fiscal year, an agreement that is likely to avert a government shutdown.
Congressional negotiators had been working through the weekend to hash out the last remaining complications in a bill to fund the government before the agreement was announced Sunday night.

I feel better, don't you?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 12:29 PM

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Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 12:30 PM (yL25O)

2 Is this the beginning of the end of the #winning?

Feels like the unbeaten streak is over at least.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 12:32 PM (yL25O)

3 Democrats got everything they wanted. It's like they control the WH and congress.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 01, 2017 12:32 PM (UBzPO)

4 Congressional negotiators had been working through the weekend to hash
out the last remaining complications in a bill to fund the government
before the agreement was announced Sunday night.

Translation: Repukes sold us out again.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2017 12:32 PM (mpXpK)

5 Rush is all over this right now - how DC crowd could not let Trump succeed because it would show them to be the do-nothing fakes that they are.

Can't have an outsider turn DC upside-down, you guys!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2017 12:32 PM (NOIQH)

6 Spineless worthless sniveling cocksuckers.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2017 12:32 PM (0mRoj)

7 Cans need kicking

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at May 01, 2017 12:33 PM (NmR1a)

8 Who mentioned the sore rectum w/o a reach around this morning? PP, NPR, NEA etc.....no wall. Eff the lot.

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 01, 2017 12:33 PM (suO/a)

9 I feel much better. Who could ask for more?

Seriously, having Trump as president gives cover to absolutely everybody not named Trump.
Squishes who cave, Dems who get everything they want still get to bitch about the evil T rump and the awful GOP, win win win baby!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 01, 2017 12:33 PM (z79tQ)

10 F*** NO!!!!!!

Posted by: Baconfat at May 01, 2017 12:33 PM (8LBk3)

11 The Spice Must Flow.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 01, 2017 12:33 PM (KUaJL)

12 Think Trump will veto?!?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2017 12:33 PM (NOIQH)

13 Trump even in the primaries was vocal against government shutdowns, so I'm not surprised he was eager for a deal.

But I'm still waiting for the supposed Paul Ryan "wonderkid" that was going to save us trillions because he's such a brilliant policy wonk.

Posted by: Maritime at May 01, 2017 12:33 PM (jFyx5)

14 A trillion here, a trillion there, a trillion everywhere!

Posted by: wth at May 01, 2017 12:33 PM (HgMAr)

15 I was sore afraid all those shovel-readied union contracts to siphon $800 billion off the taxpayers might come to a halt.

After all, a stimulus that was supposed to end a recession (that wasn't a real, you know, recession) has to go on in perpetuity. Because... well, Conservative Stalwart Principles, that's why.

And shut up.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 01, 2017 12:33 PM (TOk1P)

16 I feel better, don't you?

++++++++++++++

Not even remotely.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 01, 2017 12:33 PM (qf8IB)

17 The word is that philly GOPe congressmen, including mine - don't want to sign off on the re-written health care bill.

There aren't a dozen or so donk congresspeople in districts that voted for Trump who can offset these loser asshats?

I'm convinced these limpdick GOPes can't wait for Trump to be dethroned and they can go back to Uniparty business as usual.

Posted by: kallisto at May 01, 2017 12:33 PM (kD8Fh)

18 More Abortion.
More Illegals.
More Obamacare.
More Muslims.
More EPA.

Ladies and Gentlemen, YOUR REPUBLICAN PARTY!

Posted by: Hikaru at May 01, 2017 12:34 PM (CMbMd)

19
What "deal"??

The deal to continue obama's 3rd term??

What did the Republicans negotiate??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 01, 2017 12:34 PM (ER901)

20 Piper just might have been on to something in Planet for Texans and what to do with practicing politicians.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 12:34 PM (UEB67)

21 Think Trump will veto?!?

Posted by: Lizzy

One can only hope.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at May 01, 2017 12:34 PM (9krrF)

22 I don't think you understand. Democrats never shutdown the government. Only Republicans do that, and everything Republicans do is bad just because.

Posted by: Advo at May 01, 2017 12:34 PM (Ms4Um)

23 Returned last night from NJ/NYC visit, land of feelz, illegals, and free shit.

Could not wait to get home.

Certainly dodged the May Day bullet.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 01, 2017 12:35 PM (PY9jH)

24

Really, what was the negotiation?

Did the Democrats want MORE than they got last time and the Republicans had to negotiate them down to the status quo?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 01, 2017 12:35 PM (ER901)

25 Veto it.

demand it be submitted as multiple bills.

veto some of them.

demand they be submitted as multiple bills.

veto some of them.

repeat as necessary

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 12:35 PM (h/uSM)

26 If the Republicans had 534 seats in the House, and there was 1 Democrat, that Democrat would still get his way.

Posted by: Jay In Ames at May 01, 2017 12:35 PM (i2Lsf)

27 They really need to be held to account. What is the point, we put them in.....to do things we want....and, they do this.

Posted by: Baconfat at May 01, 2017 12:35 PM (8LBk3)

28 If the GOPe want to make it up to me they had better pass the Cruz El Chapo wall bill and the O-care repeal and replace. I'm not thrilled about the replace but if they don't repeal we are all screwed.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 01, 2017 12:35 PM (8qFZP)

29 Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Posted by: Cathy McMorris Rogers With The Impish Yet Eveil Grin at May 01, 2017 12:35 PM (ymRuQ)

30 There is no hill to die on. Unless you're a Dem. Otherwise, it's a place for naps.

Every time time Schumer smiles and is happy, an angel gets mange.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 01, 2017 12:36 PM (wTwJ2)

31 Forget the Spice, this is just to keep the Borloi going.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 12:38 PM (UEB67)

32 Throw in another trillion and cut everybody a check for $3077.

Posted by: wth at May 01, 2017 12:38 PM (HgMAr)

33 Return of the Nood

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 01, 2017 12:39 PM (C52a9)

34 Just read about Trump's Civil War comments. I am going to refer to Trump as our first internet bog commenter President.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 01, 2017 12:39 PM (1b+5Z)

35 You know, I wouldn't mind this so much if it weren't for the fact that come September the Republicans will be stunned, stunned!, that they have to do this all over again.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 12:39 PM (dEQP3)

36 "I feel better, don't you?"

About as good as being awake for a colonoscopy.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 01, 2017 12:40 PM (jxbfJ)

37 This was never going to be a Democrat shutdown. I am genuinely baffled about why anyone discusses it that way.

It was an internal GOP divide--a faction of the GOP was going to shut it down, and the D's were going to back that faction. So while symbolically it's the D's voting on the side with more votes in the shutdown scenario, the swing vote that sets it up, the deciding vote, is GOP.

Ergo a GOP shutdown. And a GOP middle finger to PDT and his priorities.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 12:40 PM (yL25O)

38 There is no hill to die on.

There may, however, eventually be ditches.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at May 01, 2017 12:40 PM (9krrF)

39 If by better you mean "ready to vote out RINOs and only support non-politician types," yes, well, I suppose I do.

Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 12:40 PM (8zWAk)

40 Is it safe to comment here now? I tried before but thought I'd killed the post when it disappeared.

I never met a government shutdown I didn't like.
-Wilbur Rogets

Posted by: mindful webworker - skepticallishly at May 01, 2017 12:40 PM (gB+8C)

41 Are we here to stay, or is this just another drive-by. Hmmm

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 01, 2017 12:40 PM (z79tQ)

42 Trump should go the Obama route and just magically fund what he wants.
And use money saved from budget/staff cuts at EPA, State, etc..

Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2017 12:40 PM (NOIQH)

43 You will bend over before your powerful overlords.

Posted by: Cathy McMorris Rogers With The Impish Yet Eveil Grin at May 01, 2017 12:41 PM (ymRuQ)

44 The Republicans have one again demonstrated they are unfit to lead. They can't even follow through with their campaign promises when they have the House, Senate AND the WH.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 01, 2017 12:41 PM (jxbfJ)

45 Empress, see my comment #20

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 12:41 PM (UEB67)

46 25 Veto it.
demand it be submitted as multiple bills.
veto some of them.
demand they be submitted as multiple bills.
veto some of them.
repeat as necessary
Posted by: buzzsaw90

===

All of THIS

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 01, 2017 12:41 PM (C52a9)

47 Funny how Republicans are always working "frantically" and "over the weekend" to do things we don't care about and never on the ones that we do.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 01, 2017 12:41 PM (KUaJL)

48 It's terrible, but I can see a political reason for funding Planned Parenthood (not wanting to piss off GOPe who don't want their kid's :punished" with a child), but what's the deal with funding Sanctuary Cities? Who's for that?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 01, 2017 12:42 PM (7uYFy)

49 25 Veto it.

demand it be submitted as multiple bills.

veto some of them.

demand they be submitted as multiple bills.

veto some of them.

repeat as necessary

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 12:35 PM (h/uSM)

A president with cojones could have a line-item veto, as you have described.

And really, you'd only have to step on one of Congress' well-deserved breaks, only have to recall them to Washington one time, and they would happily give you what you wanted.

Because what they want is to not work.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 12:42 PM (yL25O)

50
If PDT does not openly, loudly and angrily threaten the entire GOP with extinction, then I will have a friggin' coronary.

Rush says that PDT needs to craft his own legislation independent of Congress. All well and good, but at the end of the day, Ryan and McConnell will still kill anything that threatens the Leviathan.

Said it this morning, but I'm at the stage where if PDT dissolves Congress, I would not object. Especially right after he dissolves the Judiciary.

Fed up.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 12:43 PM (mbhDw)

51 Brother Cavil, from previous thread.

Imagine Brigadoon unfreezing and encountering Soviet Justice Wankers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 12:44 PM (UEB67)

52 Now submit a clean bill to fund the wall.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2017 12:44 PM (kTF2Z)

53 I remember on election night, when the end was in sight and Sean Hannity called in to the FOX broadcast. One of the first things he said was that Ryno was finished as majority leader.

If only, Sean. If only.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 01, 2017 12:44 PM (ul9CR)

54 Budget includes funding to refugee resettlement program for refugees from 6 countries mentioned in Trump's travel ban EO.

That's an FU to Trump.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2017 12:44 PM (NOIQH)

55 *waves to J. J. Sefton*

Left your neck of the woods yesterday. The stories I could tell.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 01, 2017 12:44 PM (PY9jH)

56 Trump should go the Obama route and just magically fund what he wants. And use money saved from budget/staff cuts at EPA, State, etc..
====

Over my sweet young, sexy boy-toy draped over my dead body!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at May 01, 2017 12:44 PM (C52a9)

57 Rubes are for violating.

Posted by: Cathy McMorris Rogers With The Impish Yet Pure Evil Grin at May 01, 2017 12:45 PM (ymRuQ)

58 It's terrible, but I can see a political reason for funding Planned Parenthood (not wanting to piss off GOPe who don't want their kid's :punished" with a child),

Have mom teach Susie how to swallow or take it up the ass.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 12:45 PM (Njtx4)

59 Speaker not majority leader.

Dammit, I shouldn't try to do this while I'm working.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 01, 2017 12:45 PM (ul9CR)

60
Planned Parenthood? Still fully funded.
H2-B visas? Funded.
Green energy programs at DoE? Fully funded.
CFPB? Full funded.
CA Hi-speed rail? Fully funded by FRA.

Border Wall? No funding.

I'm starting to get a bit peeved.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 12:46 PM (mbhDw)

61 OK, so they totally ignored Trump's budget - includes funding for all the things Trump wants to cut - EPA, CA high-speed rail, and all the rest.

GOPe jerks.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2017 12:46 PM (NOIQH)

62 Yep. They need another Trilliiiion right after Tax Day.

What's wrong with this picture?

Posted by: Golfman at May 01, 2017 12:46 PM (8j1sG)

63 The Republicans have one again demonstrated they are unfit to lead. They can't even follow through with their campaign promises when they have the House, Senate AND the WH.

Why should they?

Are you going to vote Democrat? Or stay home?

So what if they lose their DC seat? You think they're going to go back to East Anal, Arkansas and work sacking groceries in the Piggly-Wiggly?

Fuck you! They'll have a nice consulting job, or maybe a lobbying position, or even a no-show partner position in a white shoe law firm.

When treasonous assholes like Paul Ryan have to decide, when they lose an election, whether to buy dog food for dinner or sell their '70 Pacer to afford the wife's operation, then you'll see change.

But that would require a revolution and people dragging Ryan out of his office to the nearest lamppost.

So, in short - fuck you, serf, keep working!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 01, 2017 12:46 PM (X6fMO)

64 Have mom teach Susie how to swallow or take it up the ass.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 12:45 PM (Njtx4)

No babie's?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 01, 2017 12:46 PM (8nWyX)

65 55 *waves to J. J. Sefton*

Left your neck of the woods yesterday. The stories I could tell.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 01, 2017 12:44 PM (PY9jH)

You don't call me?!

Just kidding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 12:46 PM (mbhDw)

66 Have mom teach Susie how to swallow or take it up the ass.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 12:45 PM (Njtx4)

They already do. But it's easy to forget to take the pills.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 01, 2017 12:46 PM (7uYFy)

67 49

A president with cojones could have a line-item veto, as you have described.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 12:42 PM (yL25O)

Won't have that -ever. Neither side wants to hand that power over. Plus the SC already jettisoned it once. Only chance of getting this through would be a) the GOP-e grew some balls, b) RBG or another liberal judge on the SC falls and becomes room temperature, and c) another truly conservative judge replaces her.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 01, 2017 12:46 PM (jxbfJ)

68 Have mom teach Susie how to swallow or take it up the ass.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 12:45 PM (Njtx4)

No babie's?
Posted by: hogmartin

None that they had to kill.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 12:48 PM (Njtx4)

69 44 The Republicans have one again demonstrated they are unfit to lead. They can't even follow through with their campaign promises when they have the House, Senate AND the WH.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 01, 2017 12:41 PM (jxbfJ)

Because for the most part they are donks in gope clothing. Except for the Freedom Caucus and some outliers.

Posted by: kallisto at May 01, 2017 12:48 PM (kD8Fh)

70 With the passage of this, the last omnibus appropriation, the already-ridiculous excuses will be exhausted.

In the coming process in which all the regular appropriations bills are passed, there will have to be votes. Votes on "controversial" things like border security, sanctuary cities - you know, things that are "controversial" because 20% of the electorate and 100% of the Beltway oppose any intelligent policy.

The GOP has avoided politics for years. This is what the continuing-resolution scam has been about. It's been astonishing to watch, to anyone who experienced "normal" budgeting and politics. By having a CR, there have been almost no votes on any "controversial" topics - you know, the ones that are dramatically one-sided - which include Obamacare, by the way, when you exclude Medicaid expansion, which has never been any significant part of the reason the country rose up to reject the disastrous overall policy.

There are several here who don't understand the budgeting/appropriations process, and how it is th essence of actual politics at the congressional level. So they endlessly rationalize the GOP's behavior, with an eye on a Dem/GOP headcount scoreboard that has been rendered near-meaningless. Well this is it - no more "next time".

But I boldly predict there will be an attempted "next time". Just watch. By fall, let's see how many approps bills have been passed with regular order. The GOP establishment and its backers are rightly and deathly afraid of straight votes on things like O-care, and border security. They have avoided politics (campaign on one thing, abandon it once in power, count on fear of the Dems plus inertia plus big money backing to protect them) - I don't think they know any other "strategy" at this point.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 01, 2017 12:48 PM (OkKDg)

71
Remember, the Democrats opposition is via the GOP. That is the tip of the spear of the so-called "Resistance."

Now spitting mad.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 12:48 PM (mbhDw)

72 I realise presiding is hard, but in a somewhat more ideal world Trump would hold out for a a better deal and would veto this turd...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 01, 2017 12:48 PM (kP16F)

73 At this point the only thing that will help is Divine Intervention.

link to National Day of Prayer events, May 4, 2017

http://tinyurl.com/lq6ud3s

Posted by: kallisto at May 01, 2017 12:49 PM (kD8Fh)

74 Said it this morning, but I'm at the stage where if PDT dissolves Congress, I would not object. Especially right after he dissolves the Judiciary.

Fed up.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Grand Moff Conway: The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Trumperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the old Republic have been swept away.

General Mnuchin: But that's impossible. How will the Trumperor maintain control without the Deep State?

Grand Moff Conway: The state governments now have direct control over their territories. Fear will keep the sanctuary cities in line...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at May 01, 2017 12:49 PM (9krrF)

75 I wouldn't piss on Paul Ryan's face if his eyeballs were on fire. What a piece of complete, complete human shit.

Posted by: elkomandante at May 01, 2017 12:49 PM (K3zou)

76 "What do you think of this congress's execution?"

"I think it's a very good idea"

To paraphrase...

Posted by: JEM at May 01, 2017 12:50 PM (TppKb)

77 A president with cojones could have a line-item veto, as you have described.

---

At a minimum, explain how there is a new sheriff in town and that this it what will happen with the upcoming budget. You have a year to get your shit together.

You have been warned.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 12:50 PM (h/uSM)

78 At this point the only thing that will help is Divine Intervention.

There never really was anything else.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at May 01, 2017 12:50 PM (9krrF)

79 God bless the illegal apple pickers and their little babies.

Posted by: Cathy McMorris Rogers With The Impish Yet Pure Evil Grin at May 01, 2017 12:50 PM (ymRuQ)

80 Have mom teach Susie how to swallow or take it up the ass.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 12:45 PM (Njtx4)

Not without jewelry. Diamonds, they always want diamonds.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 01, 2017 12:50 PM (jxbfJ)

81 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 12:48 PM (mbhDw)

I know.

We're trapped in a horror movie where we realize the guy who was supposed to save us is really The Monster.

Posted by: kallisto at May 01, 2017 12:50 PM (kD8Fh)

82 Not without jewelry. Diamonds, they always want diamonds.

And THERE's the difference between geology & gemology!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 12:51 PM (Njtx4)

83 Just because congress funds a program doesn't mean that Trump has to spend the money. He can always follow the Obama precedent and shift funds from one program he doesn't like to one he wants to implement.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2017 12:51 PM (mpXpK)

84 73
At this point the only thing that will help is Divine Intervention.

link to National Day of Prayer events, May 4, 2017

http://tinyurl.com/lq6ud3s

Posted by: kallisto at May 01, 2017 12:49 PM (kD8Fh)

Pray for SMOD.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 01, 2017 12:51 PM (jxbfJ)

85 The Republicans have one again demonstrated they are unfit to lead. They can't even follow through with their campaign promises when they have the House, Senate AND the WH.
---

Veto it.
demand it be submitted as multiple bills.
veto some of them.
demand they be submitted as multiple bills.
veto some of them.
repeat as necessary
---

BOTH of these.

Posted by: shibumi at May 01, 2017 12:52 PM (8zWAk)

86 J. J., "sightings" on 5th Avenue Saturday, walking to Eataly for lunch:

1. Poor, old guy with pants hanging around his knees, letting the world see his dirty underwear.

2. Next block, urban outdoorsman sleeping face down on a piece of cardboard.

3. As we prepared to cross another street, black dude walks next to my husband and yells, "DON'T BE AFRAID OF BLACK MEN!!!!" in husband's left ear.

*sigh*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 01, 2017 12:52 PM (PY9jH)

87 Grand Moff Conway: The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Trumperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the old Republic have been swept away.

General Mnuchin: But that's impossible. How will the Trumperor maintain control without the Deep State?

Grand Moff Conway: The state governments now have direct control over their territories. Fear will keep the sanctuary cities in line...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at May 01, 2017 12:49 PM (9krrF)

Now all we need is to give Trump a giant superweapon and we're talking. Cover up that exhaust port though.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 01, 2017 12:52 PM (KUaJL)

88 It would be enlightening if every person/organization that wrote any part of a piece of legislation had to personally sign the parts they wrote and anyone modifying a passage had to sign as the one doing the modification. Like software documentation or Wikipedia changes.

Posted by: geoffb5 at May 01, 2017 12:53 PM (d3wbb)

89 >>>If PDT does not openly, loudly and angrily threaten the entire GOP with extinction, then I will have a friggin' coronary.

Will there still be an EMT?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 01, 2017 12:54 PM (apaEr)

90 Speaking of the EO on sanctuary city funding... the chaps at Powerline round it up quite nicely on how bonkers Judge Orrick was in his ruling.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/05/judge-orricks-bizarre-decision.php

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 12:54 PM (UEB67)

91 Trump wants to increase gasoline taxes to fund his infrastructure plans now. Glad I don't have to worry about such things.

Posted by: Cathy McMorris Rogers With The Impish Yet Pure Evil Grin at May 01, 2017 12:54 PM (ymRuQ)

92 The worthlessness of the Congressional GOP cannot be overstated.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at May 01, 2017 12:54 PM (+ttLq)

93 Trump never really campaigned on smaller government. If anything, I saw a whole bunch of populist promises to expand it, at least domestically.

It was always his achilles heel.

Does anyone really think though that if another Republican had won, we'd be doing a government shutdown right now?

Posted by: Maritime at May 01, 2017 12:54 PM (jFyx5)

94 "cover up that exhaust port"

Donald Trump with a gold grille?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 12:55 PM (UEB67)

95 J. J., "sightings" on 5th Avenue Saturday, walking to Eataly for lunch:

My half hour in the Tenderloin Sunday. I'll save the discussion of 'why' for later, got administrative shit to pass through a tin horn for the next two hours

Posted by: JEM at May 01, 2017 12:55 PM (TppKb)

96 The worthlessness of the Congressional GOP cannot be overstated.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at May 01, 2017 12:54 PM (+ttLq)
We need a good caning on the House floor. Either that, or pistols at dawn.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 01, 2017 12:55 PM (PY9jH)

97 Posted by: elkomandante at May 01, 2017 12:49 PM (K3zou)

He was so pissed that Trump defeated Skankles.

Daddy Soros had told him that after she crushed any notion of liberty or constitutional protections, the Throne was his.

So now he's the behind the scenes head of the resistance.

Posted by: kallisto at May 01, 2017 12:56 PM (kD8Fh)

98 This is how a Republic is designed to work. Everyone gets in one big room and they all negotiate. "You get a billion, and you get a billion, and you get a billion" until everyone has a billion. Then they pat themselves on the back for a bipartisan compromise solution to the complex problems of the day. Get their pictures taken for history, and go home to their palatial estates or penthouse apartments in the sky.

Everyone wins! Peace, prosperity, and the Progressive Way.

Posted by: Randie Ladies Apparell Shopping Center for Intimate Ladies at May 01, 2017 12:56 PM (vSVDW)

99 It would be enlightening if every person/organization that wrote any part of a piece of legislation had to personally sign the parts they wrote and anyone modifying a passage had to sign as the one doing the modification. Like software documentation or Wikipedia changes.
Posted by: geoffb5

_____

That would be great, and I think it would also reveal a lot of "TruCons" that say one thing in their fundraising letters and do another in DC.

Let's be honest here, elected Republicans LIKE Paul Ryan and even the Freedom Caucus has continued to back him as Speaker.

If they were truly pissed at him ad how he was doing his job, he'd be gone.

They want someone that never calls the tough votes.

Posted by: Maritime at May 01, 2017 12:56 PM (jFyx5)

100 an agreement

My agreement - if they Fuck Off they don't have to Die (this fiscal year).

Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2017 12:57 PM (FhXTo)

101 I never met a government shutdown I didn't like.

--Wilbur Rogets
He had his pet Thesaurus dinosaur stuffed after it died, didn't he?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 01, 2017 12:57 PM (nlbfN)

102 I don't care who shuts it down as long as it gets shut down.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 01, 2017 12:57 PM (LTHVh)

103 94
"cover up that exhaust port"

Donald Trump with a gold grille?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 12:55 PM (UEB67)

First time I read that I was wondering if the reference was to Elizabeth Fauxcahontas Warren, Maxine Waters, and Nancy Pelosi with ball gags.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 01, 2017 12:57 PM (jxbfJ)

104 Ryan's just buying insurance against The Restoration, which is a little under three years away. His indecision will mean he gets to keep his seat. Brat and his kind, though, shouldn't expect to be allowed to escape punishment...

Posted by: General Zod at May 01, 2017 12:58 PM (Bdeb0)

105 AP, you're right.

A/C update. Very nice maintenance guy was just here. He hooked the shop vac up outside, came in and smacked on a pipe and gurgle gurgle there it went. He said I was the third person today and they had a bunch over the weekend do the same thing. He checked the wood and said it'll be fine. They're going to get me a new thermostat too so yay me.

It's still dripping a little bit so he's going to come back later to recheck it. So not too shabby, reported it around 10:30 a.m., fixed by 1:00 p.m.

In theory I could run into work now. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 12:59 PM (dEQP3)

106
What is so darned difficult about separate appropriations for cabinet departments? I know, I know, too transparent and insufficient opportunities for graft.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 01, 2017 01:00 PM (MIKMs)

107 Trump's best response... a veto.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 01, 2017 01:00 PM (Quwsn)

108 Does anyone really think though that if another Republican had won, we'd be doing a government shutdown right now?

Posted by: Maritime at May 01, 2017 12:54 PM (jFyx5)

I might have
Posted by: Wannabe President Cruz

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 01:00 PM (voOPb)

109 Trump has already accomplished his primary mission.

Even he was only at best going to delay the inevitable.

The only numbers I care about anymore are prices for guns and ammo.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 01, 2017 01:00 PM (Jcg9Q)

110 Trump's best response... a veto.

"supposedly" he agrees with this POS...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 01, 2017 01:01 PM (O2RFr)

111
When Democrats are in the majority they shove through whatever they want and any token Republican vocal opposition and they are labeled the Party of No. When the Republicans have the reigns of power they still act like the minority party and buckle and cave every time. Brilliant

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 01, 2017 01:01 PM (493sH)

112 Posted by: elkomandante at May 01, 2017 12:49 PM (K3zou)

Another GOPe who can feast on a YUUUUGE BOD is John Kasich. Local radio hosted him the other night. When they were pitching the event, I thought: I wouldn't cross the street to see that clown. Of course he had to take shots at the host because he disagreed with his (JK's) globalist/corporatist immigration stance.

Posted by: kallisto at May 01, 2017 01:01 PM (kD8Fh)

113 Things will go smoother after Trump has Schumer's severed hands nailed to the Senate door.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 01, 2017 01:01 PM (LTHVh)

114 I hope they got some funding in there for the Fyre Festival. Those people are hurting.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:01 PM (yL25O)

115 7
Cans need kicking

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at May 01, 2017 12:33 PM (NmR1a)

Go ahead and blame the victims.

1. Shut it down.
2. Burn it down.
3. Something, something.4. Profit!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 01, 2017 01:01 PM (GX63o)

116 Schadenboner status -- Unable to lift a candy wrapper

#canwehazmorewinningplease

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 01, 2017 01:01 PM (wTwJ2)

117 You know what would be a good thing?
Print 535 stickers saying "Reserved for____________",
fill in the blank with each Congressvermin's name, and paste them on the lampposts closest to the Capitol.

That would be a good thing.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at May 01, 2017 01:01 PM (oPl0w)

118 What is so darned difficult about separate appropriations for cabinet departments? I know, I know, too transparent and insufficient opportunities for graft.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 01, 2017 01:00 PM (MIKMs)

Zero based budgeting.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:01 PM (dEQP3)

119 Glad your A/C issue is fixed and no Harry Buttle was involved either.

Well if you got some 'free' time could shoot you second revision of my short story submission for Amazon Storyteller UK contest. See what you think.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 01:02 PM (UEB67)

120 The real problem here is one of perception...

The Repubs in Congress do not realize their own power...

And allowed the Dems to win...

Thus, cementing their power...

They have shown the Dems that the threat of a Government shutdown is enough for the Repubs to cave...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 01, 2017 01:03 PM (NgKpN)

121 geoffb5, what you're joking about is actually exactly what a normal appropriations process does.

Legislators don't "sign" part of a bill - but they do vote on specific parts of it, via amendments - in effect, the equivalent of signing that part.

That's why I say the GOP is desperate to avoid politics, as it has for years, thanks to the CRs. No votes on specific matters.

Until 2009 votes on specific amendments regarding controversial policies were the *essence* of politics itself at the congressional level. It took up 90% of the Senate's time, and much of the House's. For a reason. It provided voters with specific benchmarks on things they might care about.

As I said in my earlier novella above, this really is "it". No more excuses. There will be no excuse for not having some politics - some votes on specifics, some separate appropriations bills that can be vetoed - this time around. (there really wasn't any excuse since 2014, but that's history now)

Posted by: rhomboid at May 01, 2017 01:03 PM (OkKDg)

122 Finally! It's about time. Now let's hope something good comes out of this. If we're going to exercise power like this, it was damn well worth the wait.

Posted by: Furious George, Pretending Not to Know What "Avert" Means at May 01, 2017 01:03 PM (j+dfT)

123 >>107
Trump's best response... a veto. Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 01, 2017 01:00 PM (Quwsn)

Trump's best response: A packed tumbrel, a mob, and the National Razor.

Posted by: General Zod at May 01, 2017 01:03 PM (Bdeb0)

124 86 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 01, 2017 12:52 PM (PY9jH)

Um, that was me.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 01:03 PM (mbhDw)

125 In theory I could run into work now. HAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 12:59 PM (dEQP3)

"run?"

We were all led to believe you were carried everywhere on a litter.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:03 PM (yL25O)

126 There's a reason Trump ends his rallies with The Stones "You Can't Always Get What You Want."

But will we get what we need?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 01, 2017 01:03 PM (SIY7D)

127
Interesting morning. Lot's of activity. Now we're hungry.

Posted by: Very Wet Spiders at May 01, 2017 01:03 PM (HTdUD)

128 So, since I know the word is going to come up a few times before this thread is nood'd, can someone go ahead and define "sinecure"?

Posted by: Hikaru at May 01, 2017 01:03 PM (CMbMd)

129
OW!!!

I've got ants in my pants
I need to dance....

HEY!!

*spins around, does the splits*

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at May 01, 2017 01:04 PM (HSmrB)

130 "Cans need kicking"

Olly Olly Oxen Free!

Posted by: The Uniparty call at May 01, 2017 01:04 PM (r5KeJ)

131 86 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 01, 2017 12:52 PM (PY9jH)

Um, that was me.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 01:03 PM (mbhDw)

The guy with his pants around his knees, or the guy face down on the piece of cardboard?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 01, 2017 01:04 PM (PY9jH)

132 There never was much hope. Just a fool's hope.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at May 01, 2017 01:04 PM (xeeHA)

133 I hope you deplorables enjoyed all that winning because now it's OVAH. hahahaha

Posted by: Cathy McMorris Rogers With The Impish Yet Pure Evil Grin at May 01, 2017 01:04 PM (ymRuQ)

134 Planned Parenthood? Still fully funded.
H2-B visas? Funded.
Green energy programs at DoE? Fully funded.
CFPB? Full funded.
CA Hi-speed rail? Fully funded by FRA.

Border Wall? No funding.

I'm starting to get a bit peeved.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 12:46 PM (mbhDw)

Elections don't have consequences when Republicans win them because they are only too glad to go along with status quo or Democrats

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 01, 2017 01:04 PM (493sH)

135 Something terrible happened, didn't it.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 01, 2017 01:05 PM (C52a9)

136 But will we get what we need?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 01, 2017 01:03 PM (SIY7D)

he signed an EO creating a Veterans' Accountability Office. That has been sorely needed for some time.

Posted by: kallisto at May 01, 2017 01:05 PM (kD8Fh)

137
Zero based budgeting.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:01 PM (dEQP3)
=====
LOL. We have ALL the money. You have zero. Negotiations commence on that assumption.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 01, 2017 01:05 PM (MIKMs)

138 I really hate our "betters" in DC. All of them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 01, 2017 01:05 PM (PY9jH)

139 I'm starting to get a bit peeved.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 12:46 PM (mbhDw)

Starting? Ha-ha, you're so funny

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2017 01:05 PM (voOPb)

140 It's still dripping a little bit
That's what I said!

Posted by: sandy fluke at May 01, 2017 01:05 PM (nlbfN)

141 And people wonder why Chuckie Schumer mocks them so.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 01, 2017 01:06 PM (jxbfJ)

142 What am I missing?

If the Rs in Congress voted as unified block on this, the Ds couldn't threaten a shut down because only 51 needed in the Senate. Is this right?

If so, then the outcome is on Ryan and McConnell.

Even more on Ryan who can't get his caucus to agree on the time of day

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 01, 2017 01:06 PM (SIY7D)

143 This is how these things go.

Republicans get scared shitless about the next election, so they think if they give Democrats what they want, they'll be spared in the next midterm.

Republicans then get slaughtered anyway, and have nothing to show for their cowardice as all the "moderates" in purple districts get washed away regardless.

At least be willing to throw the die and reform the government. We're not going to have many more of these opportunities.

This why I'm a big fan of term limits, you'd have less Republicans caring so much about their next election as politicians if they had to leave after a few terms.

Posted by: Maritime at May 01, 2017 01:06 PM (jFyx5)

144 "run?"

We were all led to believe you were carried everywhere on a litter.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:03 PM (yL25O)

*waves paw imperially*

Fine, fine, the litter bearers can run.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:06 PM (dEQP3)

145 I said one more time and I meant it. The GOP is dead to me. I'm done. You guys can get suckered again - not me!

Posted by: Very Irredeemably Undude at May 01, 2017 01:06 PM (2X7pN)

146 What JJ said.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 01, 2017 01:06 PM (vRcUp)

147 In theory I could run into work now. HAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 12:59 PM (dEQP3)

"run?"

We were all led to believe you were carried everywhere on a litter.
Posted by: TexasDan

Xactly! Can't have "The Rack" free-bouncing.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:07 PM (Njtx4)

148 But will we get what we need?

Ya. Illegal immigration down by 70%.
We want the wall.
We need illegal immigration to stop.
We'll settle for a slow down of the invasion.

Posted by: Randie Ladies Apparell Shopping Center for Intimate Ladies at May 01, 2017 01:07 PM (vSVDW)

149 "Look on the bright side of life"
https://youtu.be/Ep9Vzb6R_58

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 01:07 PM (UEB67)

150 "And people wonder why Chuckie Schumer mocks them so."

Only good news on this is that the Ds keep driving hard left.

They own Sanctuary Cities now, among other things

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 01, 2017 01:08 PM (SIY7D)

151 >>Republicans get scared shitless about the next election, so they think
if they give Democrats what they want, they'll be spared in the next
midterm.

So, were the Soros-funded townhall protestors successful then?

Because those people would never vote for them, even as they cave to their demands.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2017 01:09 PM (NOIQH)

152 Xactly! Can't have "The Rack" free-bouncing.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:07 PM (Njtx4)

I'd put my eyes out.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:09 PM (dEQP3)

153 Ignoramus, I don't think so.

Shame on me, but I'm not sure whether McConnell ended the cloture rule for nominations only, or generally, for all Senate action.

If the former, then no, 51 votes would not be enough to move to consideration of any bill, including appropriations, in the Senate. You'd need 60. The House could not block this. Any "shutdown" threat has to come from the Senate in this case.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 01, 2017 01:09 PM (OkKDg)

154 Apparently, we still don't have a modern Andrew Jackson in the White House.

Posted by: Strobe at May 01, 2017 01:09 PM (gbWkA)

155 Put me in for a Jack Welsh in this years Ghoul Pool.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 01, 2017 01:09 PM (ymRuQ)

156 150 "And people wonder why Chuckie Schumer mocks them so."

Only good news on this is that the Ds keep driving hard left.

They own Sanctuary Cities now, among other things

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 01, 2017 01:08 PM (SIY7D)

The Ds own NOTHING when Paul RYNO hands it all to them on a golden platter.

He serves his own head up to Nasty Pelosi in tribute to go with it.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 01, 2017 01:10 PM (CMbMd)

157 Well, I hope the Freedom Caucus and their ilk shut this wretchedness of a spending bill before it gets anywhere. And Paul Ryan, gah! I am starting to really despise him.

Posted by: IC at May 01, 2017 01:11 PM (a0IVu)

158 Shit. First responder shot somewhere in Dallas.

Posted by: Uber Lyft Driver at May 01, 2017 01:11 PM (Hj4t4)

159 I'd put my eyes out.

Using the wrong katas for your Bewb-Fu???

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 01:11 PM (UEB67)

160 140 It's still dripping a little bit
That's what I said!
Posted by: sandy fluke at May 01, 2017 01:05 PM (nlbfN)

I didn't know she had the GI Joe... Kung Fu grip.

Posted by: Sublime, "Caress Me Down" at May 01, 2017 01:11 PM (IDtpy)

161 Have patience. It's only a stop gap bill till Sept.

Trump has only been in office what, 3 months, not even? It's going to take time to get all his people in place, for him to learn the ropes, get a feel for how it all works. Plus there's plenty of cowardly, entrenched deep govt opposition to root out.

It's a lot to take on, and it's going to take some time. It really is the toughest job there is. I wouldn't start calling for his head yet.

Give Trump and his people some time.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at May 01, 2017 01:11 PM (1zARK)

162 So, were the Soros-funded townhall protestors successful then?

Because those people would never vote for them, even as they cave to their demands.
Posted by: Lizzy

_____

Yes, they were.

Unfortunately the small business owner doesn't have time to show up for townhalls and talk about how ObamaCare is bleeding him dry, but the free shit army and union stooges always have time for that sort of thing.

And yes, these are people that will never vote Republican, but Republicans will make damn sure their needs are catered to rather than the voters that put them in office.

Posted by: Maritime at May 01, 2017 01:11 PM (jFyx5)

163
OT:

Dallas firefighter shot by sniper, cops pinned down. Just heard over the radio.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 01:12 PM (mbhDw)

164 [ ... ] President Trump recently announced the 'close out' of the ENERGY STAR
program, which effectively ends the mandate requiring government to
purchase only ENERGY STAR products and services from EPA partners.
Opening up a trillion dollar market for American businesses to market
products and services directly to our government, the largest
procurement agency in the world. [...]

Posted by: andycanuck at May 01, 2017 01:12 PM (nlbfN)

165 not sure whether McConnell ended the cloture rule for nominations only

--

Only for Supreme Court nominations, people say. Still in effect for everything else.

Posted by: Randie Ladies Apparell Shopping Center for Intimate Ladies at May 01, 2017 01:12 PM (vSVDW)

166
Give Trump and his people some time.
====

Agreed. Congress still sucks though.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 01, 2017 01:13 PM (C52a9)

167 Prayers for Dallas PD and FD

Posted by: IP at May 01, 2017 01:13 PM (2hqkh)

168
I'm starting to believe that it's not too difficult to con Trump -- if even the Republicans can do it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 01, 2017 01:13 PM (ER901)

169 Dallas firefighter shot by sniper, cops pinned down. Just heard over the radio.

Watching it live on nbcdfw dot com

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:13 PM (Njtx4)

170 I'd love the notion of ending the legislative filibuster- except then McCain, among others, would defect to the Dems like Jim Jeffords or Arlen Specter. The party labels are as useful as pirates flying false colors, and for the same reasons.

Really, once you realize that Congress is an enemy of the American people, what must be done becomes obvious.

Posted by: trev006 at May 01, 2017 01:13 PM (fBI6U)

171 @115 Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 01, 2017 01:01 PM (GX63o)

~"Go ahead and blame the victims."

perhaps I need more coffee, but I don't understand your comment.

said "Cans" referred to were of the Political animal Class.

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at May 01, 2017 01:14 PM (NmR1a)

172 Nothing is ever going to change. People say, well vote them out next time and get someone in there that will listen to us. If we manage to get someone new in there they still disappoint.

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at May 01, 2017 01:14 PM (zRZaJ)

173 Nobody here can see the future. Some will rationalize this (for both the House, Senate, and WH) mainly by pointing to the coming appropriations process, which will presumably be done in regular order - separate bills, veto-able on their own, so no "shut-down" theater.

Uh huh.

Well I can't see the future either. But I'd like to see the political analysis that makes desperately needed action on "controversial" matters more likely in the coming appropriations season than it is now, much closer to a rebellious national election.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 01, 2017 01:14 PM (OkKDg)

174 158 Shit. First responder shot somewhere in Dallas.
Posted by: Uber Lyft Driver at May 01, 2017 01:11 PM (Hj4t4)

That place has turned into real shithole in the last 10 years.

Posted by: Fried Baloney Sandwich at May 01, 2017 01:15 PM (xgKhT)

175 We all may cry over the Repubs, I suppose you could have wished you voted for Hillary....where you going to go???

Posted by: Colin at May 01, 2017 01:15 PM (kDKIn)

176 It's still dripping a little bit
That's what I said!
Posted by: sandy fluke

The penicillin! She no works no more!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:16 PM (Njtx4)

177 I sent a nastygram to my congress critter about the CR.

While I'm sure it was a waste of time and nothing will come of it, I do feel better for venting, lol.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2017 01:16 PM (uiwCw)

178 The heck is going on in Dallas?

Posted by: IC at May 01, 2017 01:16 PM (a0IVu)

179 I'd like to kick something but it's not the can...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 01, 2017 01:16 PM (O2RFr)

180 We were all led to believe you were carried everywhere on a litter.

Posted by: TexasDan

Xactly! Can't have "The Rack" free-bouncing.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:07 PM

"Will you people please try to step on the same foot at the same time....?!"

Posted by: Empress Nympho at May 01, 2017 01:16 PM (p+Wdc)

181 No money for wall, mo' money for sanctuary cities.

This whole Republican strategery thing is just waaay beyond me.

Posted by: spoonfeed me at May 01, 2017 01:17 PM (bcDxW)

182 Sinecure?

Well, I take that when I have a runny nose or something like that.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 01, 2017 01:17 PM (RFeQD)

183 174 158 Shit. First responder shot somewhere in Dallas.
Posted by: Uber Lyft Driver at May 01, 2017 01:11 PM (Hj4t4)

That place has turned into real shithole in the last 10 years.

I wonder...

Posted by: MS 13 at May 01, 2017 01:17 PM (O2RFr)

184
I wonder...
Posted by: MS 13 at May 01, 2017 01:17 PM (O2RFr)

"Us too."

- - -BLM, ISIS

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 01:17 PM (mbhDw)

185 That place has turned into real shithole in the last 10 years.
Posted by: Fried Baloney Sandwich

Not all of Dallas. Same old shit hole areas are still shit holes.
East & South are still shit holes.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM (Njtx4)

186 I wonder...
Posted by: MS 13 at May 01, 2017 01:17 PM (O2RFr)

"Us too."

- - -BLM, ISIS
Hey, don't forget Us !

ANTIFA

Posted by: MS 13 at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM (O2RFr)

187 Give Trump and his people some time.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at May 01, 2017 01:11 PM (1zARK)

A veto would uncomplicate things in very short order.

Trump doesn't need more time. He need a strong backhand.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM (yL25O)

188 Dallas, Chicago, Baltimore - the new normal.

Posted by: Randie Ladies Apparell Shopping Center for Intimate Ladies at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM (vSVDW)

189 Have patience. It's only a stop gap bill till Sept.

--

As we speak, the Republican Excuse Generator is already warming up the "Too Close to Mid-Terms" to really do what we want excuse.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM (+FSld)

190 Really, once you realize that Congress is an enemy of the American people, what must be done becomes obvious.
Posted by: trev006

"There is no permanent criminal class in America, except for Congress" - stuff that Samuel Clemens was supposed to have said.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM (RFeQD)

191 Xactly! Can't have "The Rack" free-bouncing.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:07 PM (Njtx4)

---

ode to the rack

She's a good girl, loves her mama
Loves Jesus and America too
She's a good girl, crazy 'bout spiders
Loves horses and BCochrane too

It's a long day, livin' in the litter
There's a freeway, runnin' through the yard
And I'm a bad boy, cause I keep jiggling her
I'm a bad boy for shakin' her bewbs

And they're free, free bouncin'
(free bouncin', they're-a free bouncin')
Yeah they're free, free bouncin'
(free bouncin', they're-a free bouncin')

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM (h/uSM)

192 Trump doesn't need more time. He need a strong backhand.

Agreed...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 01, 2017 01:19 PM (O2RFr)

193 We all may cry over the Repubs, I suppose you could have wished you voted for Hillary....where you going to go??? Posted by: Colin at May 01, 2017 01:15 PM (kDKIn)
=====

That is why I am so darned angry at the silly/stupid party libertarians. They used to be my go-to when the choices were so awful. Not now: they have become silly/stupid/evil.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 01, 2017 01:19 PM (MIKMs)

194 It's the Republi-Can.
What else can be done except kick our own back end?

Posted by: wooga at May 01, 2017 01:19 PM (IDtpy)

195 The heck is going on in Dallas?
Posted by: IC

The sniper WAS behind the tree.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:19 PM (Njtx4)

196 The good news is we don't have toss vets outta park memorials! Score!

Posted by: Ranger Park, the park ranger at May 01, 2017 01:19 PM (Re/7S)

197 >>A veto would uncomplicate things in very short order.

Trump and his team know exactly what is happening in Congress. He didn't put Priebus and Pence in their jobs for nothing.

He's not going to veto this bill.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 01, 2017 01:20 PM (/tuJf)

198 This has probably mostly to do with ensuring congress critters phony baloney jobs, and funding of .mil during the Asian unpleasantness. But mostly the phony baloney jobs.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 01, 2017 01:20 PM (GX63o)

199 Man, y'all are some cynical sumbitches.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2017 01:20 PM (kTF2Z)

200 Not all of Dallas. Same old shit hole areas are still shit holes.
East & South are still shit holes.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM (Njtx4)

=====

Yep. This was SE Dallas.

Posted by: Uber Lyft Driver at May 01, 2017 01:20 PM (Hj4t4)

201 He's not going to veto this bill.

He "supposedly" backs it...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 01, 2017 01:20 PM (O2RFr)

202 Ya. Illegal immigration down by 70%.
We want the wall.
We need illegal immigration to stop.
We'll settle for a slow down of the invasion.

Posted by: Randie Ladies

_____

I honestly would prefer movement on this issue than whatever a supposed fiscal conservative could actually deliver.

I bet if Ted Cruz had somehow won (he would have lost), we'd be talking about rounding errors in what was actually cut in these budget deals. Meanwhile the flood of illegals would continue.

My fear though is Trump may see drops like this in border crossing, declare victory and go home on this issue.

Posted by: Maritime at May 01, 2017 01:21 PM (jFyx5)

203 She's a good girl, crazy 'bout spiders

Loves horses and BCochrane too

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM

You like living on the edge, don't you?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2017 01:21 PM (p+Wdc)

204 Hey, I'm just like that chicken , I like being kicked.

Posted by: The Can at May 01, 2017 01:21 PM (6eEcU)

205 We hereby Resolve to Continue to suck balls.

Posted by: GOPe at May 01, 2017 01:21 PM (Re/7S)

206 Yep. This was SE Dallas.

Dolphin & I-30.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:21 PM (Njtx4)

207 I'm not seeing any interwebs activity on Dallas...anyone have a link?

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at May 01, 2017 01:22 PM (xGZ+b)

208 Not all of Dallas. Same old shit hole areas are still shit holes.
East & South are still shit holes.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM (Njtx4)

Dolphin & I-30 near Fair Park, not the greatest area is it?

Posted by: Country Boy at May 01, 2017 01:22 PM (Jcg9Q)

209 She's a good girl, crazy 'bout spiders

Loves horses and BCochrane too

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM

You like living on the edge, don't you?

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crazy = murderously deranged

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 01:22 PM (h/uSM)

210 Once again we are shown that there a a bunch of "Republicans" who are actually Democrats that aren't politically talented enough to win a Dem primary.

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at May 01, 2017 01:22 PM (+tRIN)

211 Dolphin & I-30 near Fair Park, not the greatest area is it?

Not since the '40's.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:23 PM (Njtx4)

212 Okay, Powerline gave me a laugh. Feel a bit better.

Actually, I find Le Pen pretty normal for a politician - more so than Donald Trump and more so, in some ways, than Macron. For his part, Macron is more normal than Hillary Clinton. We're talking low bars here.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/kbudln9

But if Le Pen can pants Macron at the Whirlpool factory, I get a feeling that 59% for Macron might be a chimera created from selective polling data.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 01:23 PM (UEB67)

213 Dolphin I-30 near Fair Park, not the greatest area is it?

Posted by: Country Boy at May 01, 2017 01:22 PM

Does it have an MLK Blvd. in the vicinity? Usually a good tell.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2017 01:23 PM (p+Wdc)

214 Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM (h/uSM)

I just snorfled strawberry muffin up my nose.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:24 PM (dEQP3)

215 Republicans get scared shitless about the next election, so they think
if they give Democrats what they want, they'll be spared in the next
midterm.
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So, were the Soros-funded townhall protestors successful then?

Because those people would never vote for them, even as they cave to their demands.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2017 01:09 PM (NOIQH)

Nah, that stuff is just for show, so the left can feel like they're doing something.

No, Republican Congresscritters live in fear of their constituents.

'Cept, if it needs to be explained, we ain't their constituents.

Look at it this way: If a Congresscritter gets a thousand letters from voters in his/her district, that's fine and dandy. Same Congresscritter gets one letter from the CoC saying "vote this way or else," and that one letter trumps all 1000 of the others.

Simple as that.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 01, 2017 01:24 PM (TOk1P)

216 207 I'm not seeing any interwebs activity on Dallas...anyone have a link?
Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at May 01, 2017 01:22 PM (xGZ+b)

use the nbcdfw dot com that was posted upthread. no actual info coming out

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:24 PM (yL25O)

217 If this needed 60 in the Senate, then Schumer had leverage.

He won $$$ for Sanctuary Cities, and PP which appeases his base, which is moving ever leftward

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 01, 2017 01:24 PM (SIY7D)

218 210 Once again we are shown that there a a bunch of "Republicans" who are actually Democrats that aren't politically talented enough to win a Dem primary.

Posted by: random lurker commenter at May 01, 2017 01:22 PM (+tRIN)

Dems who aren't well-versed enough in Communist lingo, and don't know how to make that nasty smug face that all Demoncrats have perfected (except that Paul RYNO has perfected the smug face himself)...

Posted by: Hikaru at May 01, 2017 01:24 PM (CMbMd)

219 living on the edge

Aerosmith

Posted by: Randie Ladies Apparell Shopping Center for Intimate Ladies at May 01, 2017 01:25 PM (vSVDW)

220
I don't like Pence at all. Too much GOPe for my taste. Preibus doesn't bother me as much for some reason, even though he is just as much estab as Pence. Never forget him backing down on some obscure pizza place. To continue a theme: 'Sad'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 01, 2017 01:25 PM (MIKMs)

221 211 Dolphin & I-30 near Fair Park, not the greatest area is it?

Fair Park was cops don't go alone territory in the early 90's.

I think it goes way back.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:25 PM (yL25O)

222 snorfled?

*hands AlextheChick a napkin and a tissue*

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 01:26 PM (UEB67)

223 But this spending bill hasn't even passed in the house yet, has it? I suspect (hope, pray) it won't get anywhere without major modifications.

Posted by: IC at May 01, 2017 01:26 PM (a0IVu)

224 Le Pen has her dad as baggage. IRRC he founded and ran France's National Front, which was an arch uber Right Wing fascist party

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 01, 2017 01:26 PM (SIY7D)

225 What's especially galling is that this deadline has been in place since 2015. Yes 2015! And they act like it just snuck up on them.

Posted by: MAGA at May 01, 2017 01:26 PM (LQ1Q3)

226 Dolphin I-30 near Fair Park, not the greatest area is it?

Posted by: Country Boy at May 01, 2017 01:22 PM

Does it have an MLK Blvd. in the vicinity? Usually a good tell.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2017 01:23 PM (p+Wdc)

Caesar Chavez Blvd. & Malcolm X Blvd.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 01, 2017 01:27 PM (Jcg9Q)

227 Eh, there's no fixing the money problem, anyways.

20 trillionish in debt and another 140+ trillion in unfunded liabilities? Screw it, lets go bowling.

Posted by: Chupacabra at May 01, 2017 01:27 PM (yy7cB)

228 "Government shutdown!"--You say that like its a bad thing. Bug, meet Feature.

How bout playin' some hardball, Donald? Draw 'em out. Make 'em take a stand. Beat the hell out of them.

DON'T BUY INTO THE NARRATIVE, MAN!

Make 'em buy into yours. Running scared is RINOs. And scared runners.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 01, 2017 01:27 PM (Ndje9)

229 Maybe two shot in Dallas.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:27 PM (yL25O)

230 BOHICA, baby, BOHICA

Posted by: Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2017 01:27 PM (vI+F1)

231 She's a good girl, crazy 'bout spiders

Loves horses and BCochrane too

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM

You like living on the edge, don't you?

---

crazy = murderously deranged

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 01:22 PM

I dunno...what sayeth the Horde? Poetic license, or butt covering?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2017 01:28 PM (p+Wdc)

232 "Does anyone believe if another Repub won they would veto?"

Yes. Ted Cruz.

This is why New York values picks fail. It does no good to elect a person who does not have clear ideology bc you cannot even rely on them to hold the line on Iowa ethanol pork, let alone a huge national budget that does not reflect a commitment to even nominally valid gov functions. Trump will almost certainly agree to this crap bc of optics, and what the GOP needs are values and consistency of message and brand identity. The dems never give an inch and take losing issues and win bc they stick together and do not dilute their identity ideologically. When they win majorities it counts, they enact lasting stuff that makes the culture move ever more left, while our side is afraid of looking too extreme, etc. The left wins even on lesser numbers bc they are a unified fighting force and they move the ball when they ever get a chance. We do not, that's a lot of the reason why we lose. The GOP should be doing national voter ID and such when they have a narrow window like this, but they tread water and don't do game changing stuff making it easier for our side and right wing ideology to hold and expand, then the line keeps drifting thru history to the left, endlessly bc our side does little but tax cuts while in, no laws banning sharia, etc. but dems support their world views with the ACA and, if another dem is soon potus, laws outright banning speech as hate speech if it criticizes trans people, changing national bathroom policy by law, etc. they know what they want and go for it without apology, that's why they win and keep doing so and we don't.

Posted by: Me at May 01, 2017 01:28 PM (sIcO8)

233 I'm not seeing any interwebs activity on Dallas...anyone have a link?
Posted by: USMC8541

Or wfaa dot com

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:28 PM (Njtx4)

234 Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM (h/uSM)

I just snorfled strawberry muffin up my nose.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:24 PM

Looks like you could be safe.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2017 01:29 PM (p+Wdc)

235 Apparently they're still not getting the whole
"What is the point of you" concept.

Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2017 01:29 PM (FhXTo)

236 found linkage in sidebar. I have LEO family in Dallas, as well as Brother's in Arms.

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at May 01, 2017 01:30 PM (NmR1a)

237 The area they are showing in the Dallas shooter feed is pretty heavily wooded from the vantage point of the camera.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:30 PM (yL25O)

238 Meanwhile the geniuses behind the Frye Festival have been hit with a $100 million lawsuit.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 01:30 PM (UEB67)

239 use the nbcdfw dot com that was posted upthread. no actual info coming out
Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:24 PM (yL25O)

Dallas Morning News says the gunman is at large, and the firefighter is in surgery with several shots.

Prayers for his family, and for this nonsense to stop.

Posted by: moki at May 01, 2017 01:30 PM (V+V48)

240 212 Okay, Powerline gave me a laugh. Feel a bit better.

Actually, I find Le Pen pretty normal for a politician - more so than Donald Trump and more so, in some ways, than Macron. For his part, Macron is more normal than Hillary Clinton. We're talking low bars here.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/kbudln9

But if Le Pen can pants Macron at the Whirlpool factory, I get a feeling that 59% for Macron might be a chimera created from selective polling data.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 01:23 PM (UEB67)

Perhaps, but I still don't know how LePen squares the circle as it were. 21 (LePen)+20 (Fillion) =41, not 51%. Where does she get the other 10%? She can get a few votes from Melenchon's (19.5) group based on her EU and immigration stances, but I doubt she can get enough to win...

Posted by: Jackal at May 01, 2017 01:30 PM (klWDV)

241 Meanwhile the geniuses behind the Frye Festival have been hit with a $100 million lawsuit.

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LOL

Posted by: Toldjha at May 01, 2017 01:31 PM (vSVDW)

242 Posted by: Me
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Dude, breathe.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 01, 2017 01:32 PM (C52a9)

243 Does Trump not know the history of the Republican's love for failure theater?

What is their end game here?

Do Republicans think we will vote for them again in the mid-terms?

They are absolutely in denial if they believe we would vote for a DEAD party!

Posted by: Pam at May 01, 2017 01:32 PM (cF0hS)

244 Military Coup looking better each day.

Trump should veto this POS ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 01, 2017 01:33 PM (bG7WG)

245 241 Meanwhile the geniuses behind the Frye Festival have been hit with a $100 million lawsuit.

Maybe Obama can help organize the Fyre community better next time.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:33 PM (yL25O)

246 Meanwhile the geniuses behind the Frye Festival have been hit with a $100 million lawsuit.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 01:30 PM (UEB67)

Somebody has to compensate those poor little rich brats for their "tragedy."

I hope they lose.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 01, 2017 01:33 PM (Jcg9Q)

247 Found linkage in sidebar. I have LEO family in Dallas, as well as Brother's in Arms.
Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at May 01, 2017 01:30 PM (NmR1a)

Prayers up for all of them.

This sounds more drug/gang related than terrorism right now, assuming that we classify drug/gang violence as not being terrorism.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:33 PM (dEQP3)

248 Ace's boy Trump, signed it... So much for "conservative" and keeping promises..

Posted by: macleod at May 01, 2017 01:33 PM (N315I)

249 "This is why New York values picks fail."

Pure unadulterated Cruz doesn't crack 30% voter support. I wish it weren't so, but it is.

You have to work with you got and build the best constituency you can

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 01, 2017 01:34 PM (SIY7D)

250 Obama's only got eyes for Fire Island.

Posted by: Chupacabra at May 01, 2017 01:34 PM (yy7cB)

251 I for one, like my can kicked.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at May 01, 2017 01:34 PM (WLK0w)

252 Sounds like the DFW shooting was an ambush. Called to house and shot.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:34 PM (yL25O)

253 243 Does Trump not know the history of the Republican's love for failure theater?

What is their end game here?

Do Republicans think we will vote for them again in the mid-terms?

They are absolutely in denial if they believe we would vote for a DEAD party!

Posted by: Pam at May 01, 2017 01:32 PM (cF0hS)

The end game is handing control "graciously" over to Schumer and Nazi Pelosi, nodding sagely as they impeach DJT, and then cashing in as much as they possibly can until 2020, when the Dems get 80+ Senate Seats, 450+ House Seats, and President Kamala Harris.

Then jetting off to some island while they laugh at the rest of us.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 01, 2017 01:34 PM (CMbMd)

254 Rush says that PDT needs to craft his own legislation...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 12:43 PM (mbhDw)

Rush is now lifting material directly from Sundance at The Conservative Treehouse without attribution.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's apprentice at May 01, 2017 01:34 PM (s/yC1)

255 Burn it, burn it all down!

Posted by: Strobe at May 01, 2017 01:34 PM (gbWkA)

256 240 Perhaps, but I still don't know how LePen squares the circle as it were. 21 (LePen)+20 (Fillion) =41, not 51%. Where does she get the other 10%? She can get a few votes from Melenchon's (19.5) group based on her EU and immigration stances, but I doubt she can get enough to win...
Posted by: Jackal at May 01, 2017 01:30 PM (klWDV)

==============

I'll eat my hat if Le Pen wins.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 01, 2017 01:35 PM (/prE6)

257 Meanwhile the geniuses behind the Frye Festival have been hit with a $100 million lawsuit.
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Plus my last 6 bucks for that stupid inflight movie, "Neighbors2".

Posted by: Jerb from Arizona at May 01, 2017 01:35 PM (C52a9)

258 The area they are showing in the Dallas shooter feed is pretty heavily wooded from the vantage point of the camera.

Old established neighborhood. Big trees.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:35 PM (Njtx4)

259 Okay time to do things. Like work on cover art.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 01, 2017 01:35 PM (UEB67)

260 So the (R)s think this will gain enough crossover votes from people who will never vote for them to replace those of us who are giving up on them?

Won't they still need even more, though? I know! Lean even farther left! That's bound to work!

Posted by: Moron Robbie at May 01, 2017 01:35 PM (fD1ST)

261 245 241 Meanwhile the geniuses behind the Frye Festival have been hit with a $100 million lawsuit.

Maybe Obama can help organize the Fyre community better next time.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:33 PM (yL25O)

He's probably smoking a blunt with Ja Rule as we speak.

Posted by: Fried Baloney Sandwich at May 01, 2017 01:35 PM (xgKhT)

262 It's almost as if the Republican's that took campaign money from the Soros controlled .orgs are against Trump.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 01, 2017 01:35 PM (ymRuQ)

263
If I were to pick one thing that could theoretically end this bullshit, or at least make it much harder to screw over the people, it would have to be term limits.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 01:36 PM (mbhDw)

264 Yes things can be a lot better but again it's only been 100 days. Hillary will never be President and we will have at least two conservatives appointed to the SC.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 01, 2017 01:37 PM (1b+5Z)

265 Sounds like the DFW shooting was an ambush. Called to house and shot.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:34 PM (yL25O)

I take it back, that's an old school terrorist trick.

I was thinking it was more crack house/meth lab caught fire and they shot trying to hide the underlying crime.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:37 PM (dEQP3)

266 @247 alexthechick...thanks.
I'll stomp a spider for you some time.

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at May 01, 2017 01:37 PM (NmR1a)

267 254 Rush says that PDT needs to craft his own legislation...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 12:43 PM (mbhDw)

Rush is now lifting material directly from Sundance at The Conservative Treehouse without attribution.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's apprentice at May 01, 2017 01:34 PM (s/yC1)

So what. He does the same to Ace. El Rushbo stealing from you is a sign you've made it on the Right. Sundance is a big boy and can take care of himself.

Posted by: Jackal at May 01, 2017 01:37 PM (klWDV)

268 Posted by: Pam at May 01, 2017 01:32 PM (cF0hS)

The end game is handing control "graciously" over to Schumer and Nazi Pelosi, nodding sagely as they impeach DJT, and then cashing in as much as they possibly can until 2020, when the Dems get 80+ Senate Seats, 450+ House Seats, and President Kamala Harris.

Then jetting off to some island while they laugh at the rest of us.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 01, 2017 01:34 PM (CMbMd)

Man, they're gonna add House seats, just to accommodate all the Dems they'll be electing.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 01, 2017 01:37 PM (TOk1P)

269 263
If I were to pick one thing that could theoretically end this bullshit, or at least make it much harder to screw over the people, it would have to be term limits.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 01:36 PM (mbhDw)

================

Triple the size of the House.

I think the average representative represents something like 700,000 people. Get that down to 150,000 or so, and things might turn out differently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 01, 2017 01:38 PM (/prE6)

270 Prayers up for all of them.

This sounds more drug/gang related than terrorism right now, assuming that we classify drug/gang violence as not being terrorism.
Posted by: alexthechick

Have heard three or four different stories so far. No telling.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:38 PM (Njtx4)

271 263
If I were to pick one thing that could theoretically end this bullshit, or at least make it much harder to screw over the people, it would have to be term limits.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 01:36 PM (mbhDw)

That's about it, other than the great unpleasantness to come. It's far too late even for a balanced budget amendment.

And really, I think tree hole's too deep for term limits to do anything, either.

Posted by: Chupacabra at May 01, 2017 01:38 PM (yy7cB)

272 263
If I were to pick one thing that could theoretically end this bullshit, or at least make it much harder to screw over the people, it would have to be term limits.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 01:36 PM (mbhDw)

I used to agree with this, but now I don't think it would make a difference.

If they KNOW they only have 8 years (12 in the house) to cash in on graft, they're going to go into overdrive to grab as much cash as they can as quick as they can.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 01, 2017 01:38 PM (CMbMd)

273 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 01:36 PM (mbhDw)

I would agree if only most of those elected possessed anything that resembles a conscience.

IOW I don't put it past some fuckwad(s) to screw over the people on their way out.

Posted by: kallisto at May 01, 2017 01:39 PM (kD8Fh)

274 I was thinking it was more crack house/meth lab caught fire and they shot trying to hide the underlying crime.
Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:37 PM (dEQP3)

could still be that, of course.

Could still be a crime of passion for all we know. They're saying two shot but not clear if the second is a firefighter.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:40 PM (yL25O)

275 ~rolling eyes~ Republicans are a cross between the Aints and the Yuccaneers, but with more follies.

Posted by: Locke Common at May 01, 2017 01:40 PM (VVvw0)

276 249 "This is why New York values picks fail."
_______________________________

Yeah, that Texas guy really brought home conservative values with the Harriet Myers Supreme Court nomination and the miraculous No Child Left Behind.

And creating DHS, the largest federal bureaucracy in the history of the country.

Then there's California values with Schwarzenegger.

And good old southern values with Rubio, Graham and Jeb!

Puhlease.

Posted by: James Taylor at May 01, 2017 01:40 PM (4AVeu)

277 Meanwhile the geniuses behind the Frye Festival have been hit with a $100 million lawsuit.

Frye Boots ought to sue the Fyre Festival douchebags for ruining their brand.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 01:40 PM (zc3Db)

278 I'll eat my hat if Le Pen wins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 01, 2017 01:35 PM (/prE6)

Yep. As a resident of a state where the Jungle Primary is a maddening fact of political life (NOT Cali!!!) I dont' see how LePen pulls this off, despite Sargon of Akkad's analysis.

Posted by: Jackal at May 01, 2017 01:40 PM (klWDV)

279 169 Dallas firefighter shot by sniper, cops pinned down. Just heard over the radio.

Watching it live on nbcdfw dot com
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:13 PM (Njtx4)

I grew up about 3 miles west and a bit north of the shooting. That area has gone to total crap over the past 30 years. I wouldn’t dare be caught there after dark.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at May 01, 2017 01:40 PM (nvMvs)

280 Announcer: Oh my goodness, the kick went left of the upright.
Color guy: Boy, he really shanked that one. Gonna be lonely on the bench. Even the Gatorade guy gonna avoid him and he works for tips.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 01, 2017 01:40 PM (e1mEI)

281 Puhlease.
Posted by: James Taylor at May 01, 2017 01:40 PM (4AVeu)

----

Hey.

You've got a friend.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 01, 2017 01:41 PM (8XRCm)

282 Well, yeah, term limits , "one and done"

Average Senate tenure is now hitting 16 years. Until the Civil War, it was only 4 years and up until 1950 it was 8 years.

Posted by: MAGA at May 01, 2017 01:41 PM (LQ1Q3)

283 I take it back, that's an old school terrorist trick.

Unless he's a garden variety crazy.
And lack of any more shots might support that.
He could have pulled something similar to the downtown Dallas PD ambush.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:41 PM (Njtx4)

284 272 263
If I were to pick one thing that could theoretically end this bullshit, or at least make it much harder to screw over the people, it would have to be term limits.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 01, 2017 01:36 PM (mbhDw)

I used to agree with this, but now I don't think it would make a difference.

If they KNOW they only have 8 years (12 in the house) to cash in on graft, they're going to go into overdrive to grab as much cash as they can as quick as they can.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 01, 2017 01:38 PM (CMbMd)

Term limits and a 10 year ban on lobbying. Lifetime ban on any income through government contracts, direct or indirect.

Or just a clean exile. I hear there's a great place in the Bahamas.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:41 PM (yL25O)

285 Trump faces the entrenched uniparty. For a really good view on the whys and whats of the DC swamp, check out Sundance's pieces of the past week or two at theconservativetreehouse.com. It will make you feel good and will make you feel mad.

That said, fuck the swamp rats of both parties, the lobbyists and special interests and the media that continue to fuck America. Fuck them all with a pineapple. Salted. Sideways. Repeatedly.

Posted by: oddnot at May 01, 2017 01:41 PM (g1MTt)

286 Posted by: James Taylor at May 01, 2017 01:40 PM (4AVeu)

What was bad about Harriet Miers?

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 01, 2017 01:42 PM (1b+5Z)

287 TJM,

Make the House about 10,000.

Posted by: MAGA at May 01, 2017 01:42 PM (LQ1Q3)

288 You can hate the left all you want, but as I said above, they know what they want, act as a team, a unified fighting messaging force, and go after their identity politics without apology. They win because they have unbridled will. Our side is divided ideologically. We have to all be way right to keep the left which is getting only more left daily, at bay. All republicans should realize you gotta use all tools on the left 24 7 to even keep them at bay, you have to be completely ruthless with them, or life under their boot. Our side is so split we could not even pass that anti abortion measure late in obamas presidency due to wobbly female liberal members balking at gestational restrictive levels weaker than that expected by sweden, for craps sake, even though o would vetoed, now it won't even get brought up with a GOP prez, and those same women would Torpedo it again anyway. The left would never fail like that in a revised version scenario on abortion, bc they are clearly prochoice, act as one, and our side is, like on everything, too nuanced, so we never move the ball to a directionality of any meaning.

Hate the left all u want, but they know what they believe and want, and act on it collectively so their brand is consistent and known. GOP does not govern cuz it cannot decide with conviction what it believes enough to act on it united.

Posted by: Info at May 01, 2017 01:42 PM (sIcO8)

289 Meanwhile the geniuses behind the Frye Festival have been hit with a $100 million lawsuit.

So, not quite like Woodstock.

Y'all know Woodstock was a scam from its inception, yes?

http://tinyurl.com/q87c4u

Cracked article from 2009, when it was really good. Mostly. Anyway, this one's good.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 01, 2017 01:42 PM (u0s1P)

290 Well, yeah, term limits , "one and done"

Average Senate tenure is now hitting 16 years. Until the Civil War, it was only 4 years and up until 1950 it was 8 years.
Posted by: MAGA at May 01, 2017 01:41 PM (LQ1Q3)

I'm starting to come around to the one seventeen-year term for Supreme Court Justices idea.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:42 PM (dEQP3)

291 Ideology is only useful for the rubes during elections.

And it lasts only until the final results are in.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 01, 2017 01:43 PM (C52a9)

292 282 Well, yeah, term limits , "one and done"

Average Senate tenure is now hitting 16 years. Until the Civil War, it was only 4 years and up until 1950 it was 8 years.
Posted by: MAGA at May 01, 2017 01:41 PM (LQ1Q3)

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Civil War era had everything to do with how tight of a leash state legislatures kept on senators. They provided strict instructions to them on how to vote, and if the senator didn't do what the legislature wanted (or didn't do it enthusiastically enough, or had a face that was beginning to be deemed punchable, or whatever reason), then the legislature would demand resignations and recall the senators.

I kind of prefer that system.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 01, 2017 01:43 PM (/prE6)

293 "We can absorb a few terrorists attacks" - B.Oama

Ex-President, now speech maker for hire. Reasonable rates. If there is something you want said, we can negotiate a price. See website for details.

Posted by: Toldjha at May 01, 2017 01:43 PM (vSVDW)

294 Winning lasted about 48 hours, and was over roughly on November 10

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 01, 2017 01:43 PM (U6f54)

295 Or just a clean exile. I hear there's a great place in the Bahamas.
Posted by: TexasDan

Sweet island! Awesome entertainment venues! Culinary delights!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2017 01:43 PM (Njtx4)

296 I knew they were just like me. Money well spent.

Posted by: Georges Soros at May 01, 2017 01:44 PM (ymRuQ)

297 What's with the new one-name posters who don't believe in paragraphs?

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:44 PM (yL25O)

298

Did Congress pass a law banning paragraphs or something?

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 01, 2017 01:44 PM (C52a9)

299 214 Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 01:18 PM (h/uSM)

I just snorfled strawberry muffin up my nose.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:24 PM (dEQP3)

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does that mean i get to live or die?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 01:44 PM (h/uSM)

300 290
I'm starting to come around to the one seventeen-year term for Supreme Court Justices idea.
Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:42 PM (dEQP3)

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I'd heard of the 18 year one where there's one appointment every 2 years.

But I think that the average tenure of a SCOTUS jurist is something like 20 years, so it wouldn't be a huge cut in time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 01, 2017 01:44 PM (/prE6)

301 Did Congress pass a law banning paragraphs or something?
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 01, 2017 01:44 PM (C52a9)

Yeah, at least when I wall o'text I put in paragraphs and include apologetic hotassery at the end.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:45 PM (dEQP3)

302 Posted by: Hikaru at May 01, 2017 01:38 PM (CMbMd)

Term limits and a 10 year ban on lobbying. Lifetime ban on any income through government contracts, direct or indirect.

Or just a clean exile. I hear there's a great place in the Bahamas.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:41 PM (yL25O)

The one thing the French revolutionaries got right was the politician retirement plan.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 01, 2017 01:45 PM (TOk1P)

303 Winning lasted about 48 hours, and was over roughly on November 10

Posted by: Les Kinetic
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Nevertrumpers, nevertrumpin...

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 01, 2017 01:46 PM (C52a9)

304 Rick Wilson is smiling today.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 01, 2017 01:46 PM (ymRuQ)

305 Nood. Ace is awake.

Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at May 01, 2017 01:46 PM (ukNFU)

306
does that mean i get to live or die?
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 01:44 PM (h/uSM)

Yes, you do get to do one of those.

May the odds be ever in your favor.

Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:46 PM (dEQP3)

307 Everyone assumes that Trump is going to sign this.

I've not read the articles (that's why I'm here) but, what if he vetos it?

Says: "No wall? No bill, no way. Go back to work, try again."

Seems a perfect play for him--they get the blame and he gets to stand strong on a campaign promise.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 01, 2017 01:46 PM (ZQpd0)

308 sounds like they are back to saying only one shot?

EMT/paramedic.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:46 PM (yL25O)

309 For the SC, the legislature of each state gets a justice pick, subject to recall.

Posted by: MAGA at May 01, 2017 01:46 PM (LQ1Q3)

310
Term limits and a 10 year ban on lobbying. Lifetime ban on any income through government contracts, direct or indirect.

Or just a clean exile. I hear there's a great place in the Bahamas.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2017 01:41 PM (yL25O)

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Required military enlistment at private.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 01, 2017 01:46 PM (/prE6)

311 Hurts, don't it.

Posted by: Bobby from "Deliverance" at May 01, 2017 01:46 PM (zdRHJ)

312 285 Trump faces the entrenched uniparty. For a really good view on the whys and whats of the DC swamp, check out Sundance's pieces of the past week or two at theconservativetreehouse.com. It will make you feel good and will make you feel mad.
Posted by: oddnot at May 01, 2017 01:41 PM (g1MTt)

Thanks. I agree.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's apprentice at May 01, 2017 01:47 PM (s/yC1)

313 Well, yeah, term limits , "one and done"

Abandon Yucca Flats and just powder all nuclear/toxic waste over DC.

Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2017 01:47 PM (FhXTo)

314 I used to agree with this, but now I don't think it would make a difference.

If they KNOW they only have 8 years (12 in the house) to cash in on graft, they're going to go into overdrive to grab as much cash as they can as quick as they can.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 01, 2017 01:38 PM (CMbMd)

So what? Then they'll be sloppier and easier to nail. And, with a definite end to their tenure the Washington mob will be less reluctant to actually go after their criminality.

We have found with the lifetime tenures of federal judges that it does less than nothing to remove politics from their actions. In fact, with judges, it has turbocharged the political influence in their work - in direct opposition to what the Founders thought.

We need a Constitutional amendment laying down strict term limits for all federal positions - elected and appointed - and seriously limiting any work with the US government they can do after their tenure would be a nice, little addition.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2017 01:47 PM (zc3Db)

315 Yeah, at least when I wall o'text I put in paragraphs and include apologetic hotassery at the end.

Posted by: alexthechick
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Which is much appreciated. Much.

* sits on floor cross-legged, waits for next Majestic ATC text wall to arrive*

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 01, 2017 01:47 PM (C52a9)

316
What?!?!?

Is that a bald spot?!/1!?!?

Do you guys see a bald spot?1?!?!!

I'ma gonna have to have some weave repair, pronto!!

OW!!!

*jumps back and kisses myself*

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at May 01, 2017 01:47 PM (HSmrB)

317 >>Trump faces the entrenched uniparty. For a really good view on the whys and whats of the DC swamp, check out Sundance's pieces of the past week or two at theconservativetreehouse.com. It will make you feel good and will make you feel mad.

Trump is a guy who ran on not touching entitlements, the one thing that is crushing the federal debt more than anything else, a trillion dollar infrastructure plan, yuuuge increases in military spending and a massive tax cut. He's also been know to say that debt not only doesn't matter, it's a good thing. Seems a lot of people forgot that one of his biggest selling points was not that he was some super fiscal conservative but that he wasn't Hillary Clinton.

I don't think he's being played at all. This just isn't the priority for him that it is for a lot of us. I voted for him because of the Supreme Court which he hit out of the park and to get serious about law and order, dealing with illegal immigration which he has made enormous steps in already and taking the fight to Johnny Jihad and other assorted crazies which he is also doing.

If we want more conservative fiscal policies we are going to have to keep electing more conservatives. The Freedom Caucus has less than 50 members in the House. We need more fiscal conservatives in Congress and the White House.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 01, 2017 01:47 PM (/tuJf)

318 What's with the new one-name posters who don't believe in paragraphs?

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Apple OS handles CR/LF differently than Microsoft.
Bill Gates soon to be Trillianare because he knows how paragraphs are supposed to work.

Posted by: Toldjha at May 01, 2017 01:48 PM (vSVDW)

319 >>>>My fear though is Trump may see drops like this in border crossing, declare victory and go home on this issue.
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.As I have said many times before on here, enforce the employer laws that are on the books and you don't need a wall, they will leave and not come back.

Change the law that says the IRS can't share the data on multiple use SS numbers and let them and the HHS guys generate a few big raids on some employers. That's really all that needs to be done.

Rinse and repeat as necessary. Tyson Chicken plant in Sherman Texas I am looking at you.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 01, 2017 01:48 PM (le7jz)

320 Fuck them all with a pineapple. Salted. Sideways. Repeatedly.

Posted by: oddnot at May 01, 2017 01:41 PM (g1MTt)
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Intriguing...Cut...Jib, Newsletter!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at May 01, 2017 01:48 PM (WLK0w)

321 K Street and big donors will still rule after term limits.

Posted by: ShainS at May 01, 2017 01:48 PM (bG7WG)

322 In all seriousness, is there ANYTHING that conservatives got out of these "negotiations"? Tell me anything. It can be $1200 in spending cuts when they buy one less elliptical machine for the Senate gym. Just give me one reason to actually get out and vote next time.

Posted by: Ted K. at May 01, 2017 01:48 PM (7RqXg)

323 One free ass kicking from the citizenry, A WEEK.

Posted by: MAGA at May 01, 2017 01:49 PM (LQ1Q3)

324 What's with the new one-name posters who don't believe in paragraphs?
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And comment using two different socks without trying to be funny/ironic etc.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 01, 2017 01:55 PM (nlbfN)

325 I so hope Trump vetoes this crap, and lets the government shutdown.

Posted by: Iblis at May 01, 2017 01:55 PM (9221z)

326 I guess all we'll get from PDT is a Gorsuch.

And three more years of caterwauling from the left.

And then thankfully they'll get whoever they nominate, because PDT will be so hated by then even H could beat him.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 01, 2017 01:56 PM (U6f54)

327 Bush was not Cruz
Poll after poll showed him winning against hrc to believe only trump could win is exactly why we keep losing. Dems vote who they want so wh n they win it matters.

trump won in spite of himself, and almost lost and had the grab pussey tape, machado, etc, Cruz was not a forced loss, any GOP er wins on the 8 year cycle flips, which is the norm. The public hated Clinton, a top debater looking reasonable such as a Cruz does not equal a forced loss in a general election, and if so, we should just surrender if our values are so little meaning we fear we cannot package to sell them and refuse to see the bigger picture. Again, dems patiently wait to move the ball and realize the only good thing above it power is using it, if you get In and do not do big ideological things t make future wins more likely for for your respective ideOlogical leanings it is all for nothing. That's why dems walked the gallows fr Obamacare and republicans in reverse fail to try to do national voter ID and such, they don't make the connection to long term game, so we keep drifting left each passing year.

Posted by: Info at May 01, 2017 01:57 PM (sIcO8)

328 Info, er, Me, er, Info is right!!

Posted by: Concerny Concern McConcernyson at May 01, 2017 01:59 PM (nlbfN)

329 Yes, you do get to do one of those.

May the odds be ever in your favor.
Posted by: alexthechick - ho ho ho now I've got a Ravage at May 01, 2017 01:46 PM (dEQP3)

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hmmm...

complicates the calculus of asking for a title of nobility in the empire or making a short joke.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 01, 2017 02:02 PM (h/uSM)

330 Let's be honest here, elected Republicans LIKE Paul Ryan and even the Freedom Caucus has continued to back him as Speaker.

If you'll recall, I was unanimously re-elected.

Posted by: Paul "Eddie" Ryan at May 01, 2017 02:03 PM (joFoi)

331 Remember all the horseshit we heard about how Private Ryan was this really really smart guy who learned from Barney Frank the ins and outs of federal budgeting? Since 2010 when even assholes like Hewitt were screaming at him to just cut wide swathes out of everything because that's why he was put in charge of the power of the purse, not only hasn't he not cut a fucking thing, getting rolled by rocket surgeons like Patty Murray along the way, but he hasn't even done his major responsibility of putting together an annual budget instead of these fuckknuckle CRs. The only ins and outs sitting on Barney's lap got him just opened him up for Tom Donohue and the rest of the Gas Chamber of Commerce.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 01, 2017 02:12 PM (y7DUB)

332 It's 5 months of spending. I'm fine with it. Get the focus back on Healthcare and Tax Reform. Get over it.

Posted by: K-E at May 01, 2017 02:15 PM (s3vlQ)

333 Vichy Republicans is all they are.

Fuck them.

Posted by: LGoPs at May 01, 2017 02:18 PM (kXoPF)

334 Wow. That's a relief . At least Congress is assured continuing paychecks throughout their month of August entitled holiday. WDC and surrounds, kind of like France in August.

Posted by: gracepc at May 01, 2017 02:22 PM (OU4q6)

335 We all may cry over the Repubs, I suppose you could have wished you voted for Hillary....where you going to go???
Posted by: Colin at May 01, 2017 01:15 PM (kDKIn)

Vote Federalist Party and bug your state reps to sign on to a Convention of States if they haven't already.

Posted by: Who You Gonna Call? at May 01, 2017 02:22 PM (joFoi)

336 Most of the commenters here still believe the new Civil War in America won't happen.

Fuck they are stupid.

Ammo prices are down, buy on the dip, just like any precious metal.

Posted by: Huckleberry Hound at May 01, 2017 02:34 PM (UsCnO)

337 No. Effing. Balls.

Fixed the title for you.

Posted by: Captain Betty at May 01, 2017 03:13 PM (iSYsz)

338 Like they say at Western Rifle Shooters Association website:

"Republicans, they thirst for death."

Posted by: Alaska Paul at May 01, 2017 03:59 PM (Hc+rA)

339 Swamp 1 - America 0

Posted by: crazy at May 01, 2017 04:13 PM (beW9b)

340 48 It's terrible, but I can see a political reason for funding Planned Parenthood (not wanting to piss off GOPe who don't want their kid's :punished" with a child), but what's the deal with funding Sanctuary Cities? Who's for that?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 01, 2017 12:42 PM (7uYFy)

We are!!!!

Posted by: Wall Street Journal editorial hacks at May 01, 2017 04:20 PM (ujg0T)

341 GOP: Hey Democrats, it looks like we control all branches of government and can pass whatever we want. We know that's a pretty weak hand, so go easy on us in the negotiations.

Democrats: Fuck off.

Posted by: TSGSJeremy at May 01, 2017 09:01 PM (/Rfmk)

342 "I feel better, don't you?" NO.

Posted by: BJ54 at May 02, 2017 04:25 PM (Bed/U)

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