Mid-Morning Open Thread

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Breakfast in the Open
Carl Larsson

Thanks to grammie winger I have been introduced to this fine and interesting artist. Some of his work is reminiscent of Norman Rockwell, and some is startlingly different (those are the ones I prefer).

Larsson said that his greatest work was a large piece called Midwinter Sacrifice, but I disagree.

My opinion and $2.50 will get you a cup of coffee.

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 I'll get the others

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 09:22 AM (EAA/O)

2 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 09:23 AM (EAA/O)

3 Tying wenches to trees. Kinky.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 09:23 AM (EAA/O)

4 Now I'm hungry for waffles.

Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at April 11, 2017 09:23 AM (ukNFU)

5 4 Now I'm hungry for waffles.
Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at April 11, 2017 09:23 AM (ukNFU)

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Weird...I have a hunger for human flesh...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 09:24 AM (ELUpj)

6 Snipers the one with the stick.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at April 11, 2017 09:24 AM (72PAC)

7 Is that woman tied to that tree?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:24 AM (IqV8l)

8 Where are the screaming bitches at?

Posted by: United Airlines Marketing at April 11, 2017 09:24 AM (BrQrN)

9 Why is that woman tied to the tree.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 11, 2017 09:25 AM (le7jz)

10 My opinion and $2.50 will get you a cup of coffee.

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

A cheap cup of coffee

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 09:25 AM (KlI/a)

11 My opinion and $2.50 will get you a cup of coffee.

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Not at Starbucks it won't.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 11, 2017 09:25 AM (KUaJL)

12 Why is that woman tied to the tree.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 11, 2017 09:25 AM (le7jz)

If you have to ask

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 09:25 AM (KlI/a)

13 What's in the bag?

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at April 11, 2017 09:25 AM (Yi9Gb)

14 I look forward to coffee on Saturday morning.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 11, 2017 09:25 AM (hLRSq)

15 Alternate Title ...

... Woods of the DeBoarded

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 09:25 AM (BEMJs)

16 Bondage and Breakfast. Kinky.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 11, 2017 09:26 AM (oVJmc)

17 Whadda buncha birches.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 11, 2017 09:26 AM (ul9CR)

18 I fooled around with a couple of girls in the woods when I was a teenager. Never tried to get them to let me tie em to a tree though...

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 11, 2017 09:26 AM (FqgrG)

19 This is very pretty. Worth clicking on to embiggen it, so you can see the detail.

grammie, where are you? She may be sleeping off the Cubs' win last night.

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2017 09:26 AM (sBOL1)

20 sniper in the farmhouse across the lake

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 11, 2017 09:27 AM (ul9CR)

21 This one needs more manspreading.

Posted by: Fritz at April 11, 2017 09:27 AM (2Mnv1)

22 Pleasant little party...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 09:28 AM (9krrF)

23 Fifty Shade Trees of Grey?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 11, 2017 09:28 AM (oVJmc)

24 20 sniper in the farmhouse across the lake
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 11, 2017 09:27 AM (ul9CR)

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That's what he WANTS you to think!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 09:28 AM (ELUpj)

25 At first glance thought it was Princess Leia. Beautiful painting.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at April 11, 2017 09:28 AM (N3JsI)

26 Breakfast is served.

Vestal Virgin for desert!

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 11, 2017 09:28 AM (FZYNt)

27 Insufficiently gay.

Posted by: Barry Manilow at April 11, 2017 09:28 AM (vRcUp)

28 I know this is an aside from today's painting, but can anyone say why Drudge has become so liberal?

Posted by: AnnaS at April 11, 2017 09:29 AM (l4l/z)

29 Someone left their bag of dicks by the tree.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 11, 2017 09:29 AM (6Hrsu)

30 The one with the trees is pleasant enough but I'd REALLLLY like some backstory on the Midwinter Sacrifice painting, as in "Da fuq?"

Posted by: joncelli, Making with the Ewok Call at April 11, 2017 09:29 AM (RD7QR)

31 There's trees. And I think that's a house back there.

Posted by: m at April 11, 2017 09:29 AM (Gqgs8)

32 Forest Tableau, a play in one act:

Girl in white: "Daddy! He's asked me to marry him!"


Girl's daddy: "I forbid it! You can't marry a tree!"


Girl in white: "But I love him, Daddy! I'm having his baby!"


Girl's daddy: "No, I say! He's an aspen for God's sake! I simply will not allow quakers in our family."

Posted by: Muldoon at April 11, 2017 09:29 AM (wPiJc)

33 My opinion and $2.50 will get you a cup of coffee.

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM
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C'mon pal. If you're going to make us listen to your opinion, at least shell out for a decent cup of coffee.

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2017 09:30 AM (sBOL1)

34 according to a thing I just read on the internet, the woman is "embracing the tree" and "lost in thought."

I guess it's technically an embrace. Most people hug a tree from the other direction.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 11, 2017 09:30 AM (ul9CR)

35 >>Why is that woman tied to the tree.

Bitches get birches!

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 09:30 AM (/tuJf)

36 Why is that woman tied to the tree.

Dammit Emma! I said NO mustard on my sandwich!

Posted by: GMan at April 11, 2017 09:30 AM (sxq57)

37 Breakfast in the open, I repeat, we have breakfast in the open!

You are free to engage. Fire at will, fire at will, fire at will!

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 11, 2017 09:30 AM (0mRoj)

38 Air Force not one lands in Moscow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 09:31 AM (KlI/a)

39 I'm sad to say that I saw the birches and thought of the artist who does the pictures of horses and wolves in the birch groves in snow.

but these people look like they are having fun. A lot of art is so serious, never a cracked smile, never a tilted head. Heavy, intense, makes me think artist should get out of the studio and have some fun.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 11, 2017 09:31 AM (ii4h0)

40 The setting is at New Lesbos Lake.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 09:31 AM (SsblQ)

41 Is Carl Larsson related to Magnus Carlsen?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 11, 2017 09:31 AM (vRcUp)

42 Can I make birch beer by rubbing my butt against it? Tee hee!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 11, 2017 09:31 AM (ul9CR)

43 I didn't know Princess Leia was so kinky.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 11, 2017 09:32 AM (0mRoj)

44 38 Air Force not one lands in Moscow
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 09:31 AM (KlI/a)

Pence is there?

Posted by: joncelli, Making with the Ewok Call at April 11, 2017 09:32 AM (RD7QR)

45 the good old days. When it took 6 women to feed one dude his breakfast sammiches.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 11, 2017 09:32 AM (oGRue)

46 Oh boy. Trump:

"North Korea looking for trouble. If China decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem without them! U.S.A."

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 09:32 AM (Jcg9Q)

47 >>>44 38 Air Force not one lands in Moscow
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 09:31 AM (KlI/a)

Pence is there?
Posted by: joncelli, Making with the Ewok Call at April 11, 2017 09:32 AM (RD7QR)

Tillerson.

Posted by: m at April 11, 2017 09:33 AM (Gqgs8)

48
Insufficiently gay.
Posted by: Barry Manilow


It's Mandy!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:33 AM (IqV8l)

49 9 Why is that woman tied to the tree.

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the soda was above 7 degrees celcius

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 11, 2017 09:33 AM (oGRue)

50 44 38 Air Force not one lands in Moscow
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 09:31 AM (KlI/a)

Pence is there?
Posted by: joncelli, Making with the Ewok Call at April 11, 2017 09:32 AM (RD7QR)


If Race Bannon is there ... Shit Status is about to get raised to Condition Real.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 09:33 AM (BEMJs)

51 I know this is an aside from today's painting, but can anyone say why Drudge has become so liberal?

Elaborate, please. I'm not seeing it.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 11, 2017 09:33 AM (B+qrE)

52 Russian dumpster fire

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:34 AM (IqV8l)

53 very calming, lovely painting

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 09:35 AM (0O7c5)

54 Alternate subtitle:

"Lady in White Readies Herself for Firing Squad"

Also - willowed from last thread:

Every so often - about once every year or so - I fly United because I
cannot fly a real airline (whether its the route or arrival time or my
work travel system, whatever) and it reminds me of why I avoid them like
the plague. They are a truly awful airline. Just awful in every facet;
service, responsiveness timeliness, cleanliness, you name it - they are
awful. And once they merged with American I decided to stop flying
American as well; United simply dragged American's responsiveness and
quality straight down the tubes. I gravitate towards JetBlue whenever I
can. Southwest is great - Delta is still good too. International-wise I
like BA for London and the EU and Cathay Pacific for Asia Pac.

Can we all just agree to not fly United ? - if ever there was an airline that should be forced into bankruptcy - this is it.

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 11, 2017 09:35 AM (Fb9aZ)

55 Wow....love this painting! Almost like a colorized photo....


Add in the chick chained to a tree, witches hunched over a cauldron, a guy from Madmen, and Dame Maggie Smith and you got yourself a winnah!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 11, 2017 09:35 AM (jjaLl)

56 nothing like anal wood in the morning to put a sprig in in your step

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 11, 2017 09:35 AM (oGRue)

57 so, if I identify as a headless man and lop my head off, it is suicide and against the law. If I identify as a one arm man and cut my arm off, they call me crazy and put me in a padded room. If I say I wanna be female and cut off my man parts I am enlightened and yall need to pay for it.
#liberallogic

Posted by: duncan at April 11, 2017 09:35 AM (XKLkE)

58 I thought the title of this one was:

"Come bang me against the Birch, Big Boy!'

Posted by: naturalfake at April 11, 2017 09:35 AM (9q7Dl)

59 I fly Southwest whenever I can.

You don't expect much, so you're not disappointed when you don't get much.

Plus, funny flight attendants.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 11, 2017 09:36 AM (ul9CR)

60 So for the first time I clicked on the picture to get the more detailed version, and damn, was not expecting that.

Nice painting.

Though it looks like the woman in white tried to start a fire by the middle trees.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at April 11, 2017 09:36 AM (72PAC)

61 If Race Bannon is there ... Shit Status is about to get raised to Condition Real.
Posted by: ScoggDog




You'll know it when Johnny and Hadji di di mau the f outta there.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 09:37 AM (EAA/O)

62 Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 09:33 AM (BEMJs)


One of Gushka's Facebook friends keeps posting "Pence and Barron" adventures using comics with Johnny (Quest?) and Race Bannon. They are always topical to the news which is impressive.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 11, 2017 09:37 AM (sEDyY)

63 I fly United because I
cannot fly a real airline...
And once they merged with American I decided to stop flying
American as well
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Uhmmm...

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 09:37 AM (SsblQ)

64
Sometimes I Make Myself Giraffe - a limerick


April the giraffe surely knew
That Oliver's proposal won't do
"We just can't elope,
hence I must dash your hopes
I'm in love with a birchbark gnu!"

Posted by: Muldoon at April 11, 2017 09:37 AM (wPiJc)

65 I like this. It's a little bit on the illustrator-ish side for my taste, but I like the way he pulls it off.

I like the era, for one thing, and it's full of birches which means it's from some pure, crisp, northern clime.

The girl on the left looks wistful. She's holding herself apart from the group and leaning into the tree in a very sensual way. I think she has a new lover and for now it's her secret.

Is she wondering whether he'll arrive? Looking forward to it? Or does she know he's not coming because for some reason of class, appropriateness, or blood relationship they can't be seen in public together?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 11, 2017 09:37 AM (gIRsn)

66 Are they eating lutefisk? I think the woman in white is just chilling. Probably bored.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 11, 2017 09:38 AM (vRcUp)

67 Larsson. Is this a Far Side cartoon?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:38 AM (IqV8l)

68 United down 3 1/2 percent now.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 09:38 AM (Jcg9Q)

69 Someone left their bag of dicks by the tree.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 11, 2017 09:29 AM (6Hrsu)


We already went over Macarthur Park on the ONT. Consensus: it's awful.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 11, 2017 09:39 AM (8nWyX)

70 Darjeeling is where it's at ...

Posted by: Adriane the Coffee Critic ... at April 11, 2017 09:39 AM (AoK0a)

71 Air Force not one lands in Moscow
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 09:31 AM (KlI/a)

Pence is there?
Posted by: joncelli, Making with the Ewok Call at April 11, 2017 09:32 AM (RD7QR)

Tillerson

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 09:39 AM (KlI/a)

72 What a stone-faced birch.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 09:39 AM (nlbfN)

73 I fixed the display....man, that was awful!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 11, 2017 09:39 AM (rF0hx)

74 There was nothing i could do to get away. She didn't even get my assent, she just started rubbing against me and then the sap just started to flow.

And now she wants child support!

Posted by: The Birch at April 11, 2017 09:40 AM (oGRue)

75 Its no pollock

Posted by: Pollock at April 11, 2017 09:40 AM (DdGS0)

76 Sammiches. Lotta sammiches being made, there.

Posted by: m at April 11, 2017 09:41 AM (Gqgs8)

77 63
I fly United because I

cannot fly a real airline...

And once they merged with American I decided to stop flying

American as well

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Uhmmm...

Sorry - always confuse US airways with United - hate US airways too - also avoid them like the plague

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 11, 2017 09:41 AM (Fb9aZ)

78 Why is that woman tied to the tree.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 11, 2017 09:25 AM


Narrative convention.

*twirls mustache*

Posted by: Snidely Whiplash at April 11, 2017 09:41 AM (p+Wdc)

79 See, if this had been painted by a French Impressionist, at least one of the gals in the woods would be nekkid.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at April 11, 2017 09:41 AM (iRu64)

80 Bringing open air slave markets back to Libya is my greatest accomplishment.

*hic*

Posted by: Hilary Clinton at April 11, 2017 09:41 AM (FqgrG)

81 I don't think that I can take it
'cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that ONT again

Posted by: zombie richard harris at April 11, 2017 09:41 AM (nlbfN)

82 79 See, if this had been painted by a French Impressionist, at least one of the gals in the woods would be nekkid.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at April 11, 2017 09:41 AM (iRu64)

Sweden. Just too blinkin' nippy for that.

Posted by: joncelli, Making with the Ewok Call at April 11, 2017 09:42 AM (RD7QR)

83 Air Force not one lands in Moscow

I'll bet Tillerson and Lavrov are not all giggly around a prop "reset" button after this meeting.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 11, 2017 09:42 AM (B+qrE)

84 United. If You'd Rather Fight Than Switch.

Posted by: United Airlines at April 11, 2017 09:43 AM (2z74n)

85 I'll be in my...

Quick! Someone cut me down and make me into a bunk!

Posted by: the tree at April 11, 2017 09:43 AM (ml2c/)

86 Larsson. Is this a Far Side cartoon?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:38 AM (IqV8l)



Yes.

You can find this cartoon in "Far Side: The Salad Days"

The is from the early days of "Far Side" when Larsson was using Birch trees instead of Holstein Cows in his cartoons.

He made the switch and the rest is history.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 11, 2017 09:43 AM (9q7Dl)

87 You are free to engage. Fire at will, fire at will, fire at will!

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 11, 2017 09:30 AM


Dude! Not cool.

Posted by: Will at April 11, 2017 09:44 AM (p+Wdc)

88 Weird...I have a hunger for human flesh...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

So do I.

Posted by: United Airlines at April 11, 2017 09:44 AM (326rv)

89
Why is that woman tied to the tree.

Narrative convention.

*twirls mustache*
Posted by: Snidely Whiplash


No railroad tracks available.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:44 AM (IqV8l)

90 One of Gushka's Facebook friends keeps posting "Pence and Barron" adventures using comics with Johnny (Quest?) and Race Bannon.

I gotta' find those ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 09:44 AM (BEMJs)

91 80 Bringing open air slave markets back to Libya is my greatest accomplishment.

*hic*
Posted by: Hilary Clinton at April 11, 2017 09:41 AM (FqgrG)

==================

"I was told that slavery was a uniquely American institution and that it had never existed anywhere before 1776. Why no, I have not attended my history classes in a few weeks, why do you ask?"
-Very smart college student who's struggling with their core classes but acing that gender studies course

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 09:45 AM (ELUpj)

92
Just An Observation - a limerick

One day on a forest plateau
I spotted this charming tableau
These young nature lovers
Had varied head covers:
Three bonnets, two hats, one chapeau

Posted by: Muldoon at April 11, 2017 09:45 AM (wPiJc)

93 59
I fly Southwest whenever I can.



You don't expect much, so you're not disappointed when you don't get much.



Plus, funny flight attendants.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 11, 2017 09:36 AM (ul9CR)
same

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 09:45 AM (0O7c5)

94 The dude in the hat is a PLAYAH!

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 11, 2017 09:46 AM (0mRoj)

95 Hey, everybody! How do you like my Edith Cavell impersonation?!

Posted by: woman in white at April 11, 2017 09:46 AM (nlbfN)

96 clearly the dudes pimp hand is strong.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 11, 2017 09:46 AM (oGRue)

97 Hey, everybody! How do you like my Edith Cavell impersonation?!
Posted by: woman in white at April 11, 2017 09:46 AM (nlbfN)


Dude.

Too soon.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 11, 2017 09:47 AM (8nWyX)

98 Note to landscapers:

Birch trees while pretty are a huge PITA dropping twigs, seeds, leaves, and bark all over the place constantly. We've got a river birch in the front yard. I suspect they're "river" birches because anywhere they're not constantly wet they burn down.

Posted by: DaveA at April 11, 2017 09:47 AM (FhXTo)

99 -Very smart college student who's struggling with their core classes but acing that gender studies course




Never not funny.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 09:48 AM (EAA/O)

100 Ya know that Monty Python sketch about not killing customers? What utter BS.

Posted by: United Airlines at April 11, 2017 09:48 AM (326rv)

101 99 -Very smart college student who's struggling with their core classes but acing that gender studies course




Never not funny.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 09:48 AM (EAA/O)

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Just wait until the semester ends....

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 09:48 AM (ELUpj)

102 US pecking order...

1. Jet Blue
2. Southwest

ENORMOUS GAP

3. Delta

ENORMOUS GAP

4. American

ENORMOUS GAP

5. United

SPAN OF THE VISIBLE UNIVERSE

6. Spirit

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 11, 2017 09:48 AM (B+qrE)

103 Bringing open air slave markets back to Libya is my greatest accomplishment.

*hic*

Posted by: Hilary Clinton at April 11, 2017 09:41 AM (FqgrG)


Democrats and slavery. Just can't separate the two no matter how much we try.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 11, 2017 09:49 AM (hLRSq)

104 Charter member of the Joan of Arc fan club.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 11, 2017 09:49 AM (kTF2Z)

105 Very pretty. Makes me think of Rafaelites Waterhouse, Rosetti, et al. Close to time period?

ps -- for some reason birch leaves do not degrade and dry up and crumble. I really dislike birches in the neighborhood.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 11, 2017 09:49 AM (MIKMs)

106 Birch trees while pretty are a huge PITA dropping twigs, seeds, leaves, and bark all over the place constantly. We've got a river birch in the front yard. I suspect they're "river" birches because anywhere they're not constantly wet they burn down.
_____________________________

That's why they are known as "dirty" trees.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 09:49 AM (4AVeu)

107 Was that wrong?

--United Spokesman George Costanza

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 11, 2017 09:50 AM (B+qrE)

108 Why is that woman tied to the tree.

She's not tied she's bracing herself. Too close to the rest of the picnic though.

Posted by: DaveA at April 11, 2017 09:50 AM (FhXTo)

109 Breakfast in the open is by the same person as Midwinter Sacrifice?

Wow. The latter is like some kind of weird fiction pulp magazine cover, except for the FFMN.

Quite a contrast.

Posted by: simplemind at April 11, 2017 09:50 AM (xVRrG)

110 Commercial air travel is becoming more of a drag every day.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 11, 2017 09:51 AM (wPiJc)

111 108 Why is that woman tied to the tree.

She's not tied she's bracing herself. Too close to the rest of the picnic though.
Posted by: DaveA at April 11, 2017 09:50 AM (FhXTo)

One too many mimosas.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 11, 2017 09:51 AM (0mRoj)

112 Don Draper is sleeping off his 8th Breakfast Bourbon......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 11, 2017 09:51 AM (jjaLl)

113 are you sure i can start a fire if i rub my ass on this tree long enough?

Posted by: treegirl at April 11, 2017 09:51 AM (oGRue)

114 Just booked a couple of tickets on SWA for the boy and his wife to fly out for the oldest daughter's wedding. They gave him a military discount and a gratis early bird check in.

Didn't even bother with checking another airline. They can FOAD.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 11, 2017 09:51 AM (VRsLi)

115 Three years later the musicians finally showed up...

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 09:52 AM (SsblQ)

116 112 Don Draper is sleeping off his 8th Breakfast Bourbon......
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 11, 2017 09:51 AM (jjaLl)

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"Piker."
-Winston Churchill

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 09:52 AM (ELUpj)

117 13
What's in the bag?

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at April 11, 2017 09:25 AM (Yi9Gb)

the cat

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 09:52 AM (0O7c5)

118
75 Its no pollock

Posted by: Pollock at April 11, 2017 09:40 AM (DdGS0)






And you're no Cod.

*flips fin at Pollock*

Posted by: Cod at April 11, 2017 09:52 AM (XWkhW)

119 What this painting needs is some Syrian refugees.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 11, 2017 09:52 AM (vRcUp)

120 Oh! A bag of dicks!

Dibs!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 11, 2017 09:52 AM (jjaLl)

121 119 What this painting needs is some Syrian refugees.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 11, 2017 09:52 AM (vRcUp)

Or at least a banana.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 11, 2017 09:52 AM (0mRoj)

122 "Midwinter Sacrifice" is going to be used as the cover for Bruce Jenner's autobiography

Posted by: josephistan at April 11, 2017 09:53 AM (7HtZB)

123 That's why they are known as "dirty" trees.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

dems some dirty birches

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 11, 2017 09:53 AM (FZYNt)

124 Commercial air travel is becoming more of a drag every day.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 11, 2017 09:51 AM (wPiJc)
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Actually, the increased use of winglets has considerably reduced it.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 09:53 AM (SsblQ)

125 I don't think that I can take it
'cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that ONT again


I happen to like MacArthur Park. And the album it's from, A Tramp Shining, is wonderfully goofy, as in "what the hell were Harris and Webb smoking?" goofy.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 11, 2017 09:53 AM (X6fMO)

126 sorry there's only one chair. Guess you'll just have to take turns sitting on my lap. so so sorry.

Posted by: painting dude at April 11, 2017 09:53 AM (oGRue)

127 Not sure what airlines are around anymore...local airport has JetBlue, Southwest, and Untied......The old days when I flew a lot for business it was mostly USAir, Delta...those days are gone forever, I guess.

Posted by: Colin at April 11, 2017 09:53 AM (RS7vk)

128 I preferred champagne with breakfast. Scotch and soda came after.

Posted by: Winston Churchill at April 11, 2017 09:53 AM (FqgrG)

129 I watched "The great War" on PBS last night.

Major disappointment. The first five minutes was about identity politics in the 1910's, as seen through the eyes of current day activists.

One black commentator glossed over the fact that Wilson segregated black and white federal workers. She seemed to apologize for him, saying it was because he had no choice.

They made Wilson out to be anti-war because he was the first president to grow up in a country (the Confederacy) that lost a war.

Yeah, no.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 09:53 AM (4AVeu)

130 Birch set me up

Posted by: Zombie Marion Berry at April 11, 2017 09:54 AM (FZYNt)

131 Wow. That 'Midwinter Sacrifice' painting is spectacular.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 11, 2017 09:54 AM (SzBdI)

132 123 That's why they are known as "dirty" trees.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

dems some dirty birches
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 11, 2017 09:53 AM (FZYNt)

Who's birch is this?

Posted by: josephistan at April 11, 2017 09:54 AM (7HtZB)

133 That's why they are known as "dirty" trees.

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you have NO idea.

Posted by: Girl being molested by tree at April 11, 2017 09:54 AM (oGRue)

134 129 One black commentator glossed over the fact that Wilson segregated black and white federal workers. She seemed to apologize for him, saying it was because he had no choice.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 09:53 AM (4AVeu)

===============

Of course he had no choice.

He was a Democrat who hated black people. What else was he going to do?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 09:54 AM (ELUpj)

135 131 Wow. That 'Midwinter Sacrifice' painting is spectacular.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 11, 2017 09:54 AM (SzBdI)

Points off for the only nudity being ween.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 11, 2017 09:55 AM (0mRoj)

136 I keep seeing the UA story reported as over booking. It wasn't. They kicked 4 paying customers off to accommodate UA employees, which is way worse IMO.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 11, 2017 09:55 AM (kTF2Z)

137
Commercial air travel is becoming more of a drag every day.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 11, 2017 09:51 AM (wPiJc)








I wonder what would lift your spirits?

I wonder.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2017 09:56 AM (XWkhW)

138 Its no pollock
Posted by: Pollock at April 11, 2017 09:40 AM (DdGS0)


of course not. Fresh water, right? Probably whitefish,

Posted by: Kindltot at April 11, 2017 09:56 AM (ii4h0)

139 Everyone hates white birch until they need to start a fire.

Posted by: garrett at April 11, 2017 09:56 AM (rlFK2)

140 Y'know, I have to wonder if United's CEO is getting lots of phone calls from his peers elsewhere in the industry..."Do you WANT more regulations?!? Because this is how you get more regulations...and less profits..."

Seriously, whatever sins that passenger may have been guilty of, this is probably the all-time DUMBEST performance in a PR clusterfuck by a major corporation in recent memory...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 09:56 AM (9krrF)

141 Wilson had no choice but to love The Birth of a Nation.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 11, 2017 09:56 AM (FqgrG)

142
I preferred champagne with breakfast.

Do you feel like I do?

Posted by: Peter Frampton at April 11, 2017 09:56 AM (IqV8l)

143 Just saw where The Pentagon has awarded United the contract to forcibly remove Assad.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 09:56 AM (EAA/O)

144 136 I keep seeing the UA story reported as over booking. It wasn't. They kicked 4 paying customers off to accommodate UA employees, which is way worse IMO.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

I know what they could have offered to get someone to give up their seat

Posted by: Madonna at April 11, 2017 09:57 AM (FZYNt)

145 Commercial air travel is becoming more of a drag every day.

Posted by: Muldoon

I wonder what would lift your spirits?

I wonder.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur


I think I get the thrust of your argument.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 09:57 AM (9krrF)

146 Resting Birch Face

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 11, 2017 09:57 AM (ul9CR)

147 Commercial air travel is becoming more of a drag every day.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 11, 2017 09:51 AM (wPiJc)


I think you need to air these puns in order to lift your spirits ...

Posted by: Adriane the Coffee Critic ... at April 11, 2017 09:57 AM (AoK0a)

148 Birch, larch, or Aspen trees?

Posted by: Under Fire at April 11, 2017 09:58 AM (57R5r)

149 141 Wilson had no choice but to love The Birth of a Nation.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 11, 2017 09:56 AM (FqgrG)

===============

It's what all racists Democrats did.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 09:58 AM (ELUpj)

150 Seriously, whatever sins that passenger may have been guilty of, this is probably the all-time DUMBEST performance in a PR clusterfuck by a major corporation in recent memory...
Posted by: Brother Cavil



You wanna pee with our daughters?
Posted by: Dayton Hudson Corp (Target)

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 09:58 AM (EAA/O)

151 OK. Seriously. Why is everyone so upset about the young woman tied to the tree? It's not like they're going to eat her. Are they?

Posted by: Eromero at April 11, 2017 09:58 AM (zLDYs)

152 at ticketing, American only has a handful of seats open to reserve...if you are traveling with a family bigger than 1....you will have to pay extra to sit next to 1 of them, if there are more than 2 of you....you most likely won't find seats together even if you pay the extra...even if you are traveling with children too young to fly alone but old enough to require a seat......don't forget.... you have to pay extra for your luggage.....and stand in lines to let social rejects paw through your carry on.....and grope you.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 09:58 AM (0O7c5)

153 #82

Another artist, Anders Zorn, made lots of pictures of big Swedish girls bathing in lakes. They're not as big as Rubens girls, but still quite substantial.
But I guess the Swedes kept their clothes on whilst picnicking.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at April 11, 2017 09:58 AM (iRu64)

154 Actually, the increased use of winglets has considerably reduced it.

Posted by: RioBravo


Not that canard again...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 09:58 AM (9krrF)

155 am i the only one who thinks the passenger was a whiny girlybitch?

Posted by: Girl being molested by tree at April 11, 2017 09:58 AM (oGRue)

156 >>Commercial air travel is becoming more of a drag every day.



Pro Tip : Just tell them you are a Docotor.

Posted by: garrett at April 11, 2017 09:58 AM (rlFK2)

157 132 123 That's why they are known as "dirty" trees.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
dems some dirty birches

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 11, 2017 09:53 AM (FZYNt)

Who's birch is this?
Posted by: josephistan at April 11, 2017 09:54 AM (7HtZB)


Hrm...hmmmm... These woody puns are quite hasty.

Hmmmm...

Posted by: Treebeard at April 11, 2017 09:59 AM (SzBdI)

158 151 OK. Seriously. Why is everyone so upset about the young woman tied to the tree? It's not like they're going to eat her. Are they?
Posted by: Eromero

Huma, get your ass over here!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at April 11, 2017 09:59 AM (FZYNt)

159 You wanna pee with our daughters?
Posted by: Dayton Hudson Corp (Target)

Posted by: rickb223


Target didn't beat the hell out of one of its customers!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 09:59 AM (9krrF)

160 28 I know this is an aside from today's painting, but can anyone say why Drudge has become so liberal?
Posted by: AnnaS at April 11, 2017 09:29 AM (l4l/z)




I have noticed the same thing. It seems that recently Drudge is posting an increased number of links to leftist news outlets and left-leaning stories. Since I can get the leftist manifesto on nearly every other news medium, it is disturbing to see it on Drudge.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 09:59 AM (TdMsT)

161 Commercial air travel is becoming more of a drag every day.
It's the passenger's fault for creating such a flap!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 09:59 AM (nlbfN)

162 Yeah, she does butt-stuff

Posted by: The Birch at April 11, 2017 09:59 AM (NF2Bf)

163 am i the only one who thinks the passenger was a whiny girlybitch?
Posted by: Girl being molested by tree at April 11, 2017 09:58 AM (oGRue)

Why? Just because I now use that as my alarm to wake me up in the AM?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 10:00 AM (KlI/a)

164 Hrm...hmmmm... These woody puns are quite hasty.

Hmmmm...


Posted by: Treebeard at April 11, 2017 09:59 AM (SzBdI)
she's going to bark like a dog

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 10:00 AM (0O7c5)

165 148 Birch, larch, or Aspen trees?

Birches. European birches from the looks of it. They're like paper birches but less peel-y.

There's an enormous one at an old abandoned school in my neighborhood. Not native to the US but you find them a lot in landscaping.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 11, 2017 10:00 AM (ul9CR)

166 162 Yeah, she does butt-stuff
Posted by: The Birch

that will give me a woody

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 11, 2017 10:00 AM (FZYNt)

167 What this painting needs is some Syrian refugees.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 11, 2017 09:52 AM (vRcUp)

Or at least a banana.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 11, 2017 09:52 AM (0mRoj)

Isn't it interesting how the left is building what is essentially a mythology about their various "martyrs" (none of whom needed to die if better personal choices had been made)? Bananas for the kid with the terrible father, tea for St. Trayvon. etc.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 11, 2017 10:00 AM (sEDyY)

168 Birches? I thought they were willows. Well it doesnt matter anyway. I can hit one seven times out of ten, thats the point!

Posted by: Dennis Moore at April 11, 2017 10:00 AM (GzXyM)

169 Seriously, whatever sins that passenger may have been guilty of, this is probably the all-time DUMBEST performance in a PR clusterfuck by a major corporation in recent memory...
==============

Lot of closet fascists in the world, feeling free to get their freak on. Not just workin' security either, lot of them are in boardrooms now.

Posted by: simplemind at April 11, 2017 10:01 AM (xVRrG)

170 she's merely pining for the fjord

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 10:01 AM (0O7c5)

171 One black commentator glossed over the fact that Wilson segregated black and white federal workers. She seemed to apologize for him, saying it was because he had no choice.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 09:53 AM (4AVeu)


I find, as a rule of thumb, anything that's going to be shown on a "public broadcast" channel will most likely be leftist idiocy.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 11, 2017 10:01 AM (X6fMO)

172 She looks tasty.

Posted by: The Doberman laying in the grass at April 11, 2017 10:01 AM (57R5r)

173 161 Commercial air travel is becoming more of a drag every day.
It's the passenger's fault for creating such a flap!

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they did not need the extra turbulence

Posted by: Girl being molested by tree at April 11, 2017 10:02 AM (oGRue)

174 Birches ain't nuffin' but sticks and hos.

Posted by: garrett at April 11, 2017 10:02 AM (rlFK2)

175 Coffee, tea, or a flick of my bic[/] big fuckin nightstick?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 11, 2017 10:02 AM (kTF2Z)

176 63 I fly United because I
cannot fly a real airline...
And once they merged with American I decided to stop flying
American as well
----------
Uhmmm...
Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 09:37 AM (SsblQ)


---------------

American and USAir merged. Not United.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2017 10:02 AM (Fmupd)

177 155 am i the only one who thinks the passenger was a whiny girlybitch?

Posted by: Girl being molested by tree at April 11, 2017 09:58 AM (oGRue)


No, I agree that he was. But I also think United is a crappy airline and whatever middle manager was responsible for that debacle should be strung up by his nuts and roasted over a slow fire.

A pox on both sides.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 11, 2017 10:02 AM (SzBdI)

178 Why? Just because I now use that as my alarm to wake me up in the AM?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 10:00 AM (KlI/a)

---

hey, how'd your uber work out?

Posted by: Girl being molested by tree at April 11, 2017 10:02 AM (oGRue)

179 Commercial air travel is becoming more of a drag every day.

It's the passenger's fault for creating such a flap!


Well, if he'd gotten his tail off the plane, the stock wouldn't be in a nosedive ...

Posted by: Adriane the Coffee Critic ... at April 11, 2017 10:03 AM (AoK0a)

180
Commercial air travel is becoming more of a drag every day.



Posted by: Muldoon



I wonder what would lift your spirits?



I wonder.



Posted by: IllTemperedCur



I think I get the thrust of your argument.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 09:57 AM (9krrF)


Aileron? I hardly knew her!


Posted by: Pretty Sure I Nailed This One!!! at April 11, 2017 10:03 AM (jjaLl)

181 Saint Hillary of Clinton teaches religion to the unwashed masses with the parable of the unwashed masses.

See WZ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 11, 2017 10:03 AM (Nwg0u)

182 The series did accurately portray the brutality and immorality of the Germans through their unrestricted use of U-boats, the use of gas in warfare, their espionage and sabotage network in the U.S., and their slaughter of thousands of Belgian civilians.

Since the federal government sat and watched the brutality, real Americans stepped up, like JP Morgan (who issued a $500 million letter of credit to France and the U.K.), private citizens (the Lafayette Escadrille and other) who volunteered to fight for the French and British, and the preparedness army that trained in Plattsburgh, NY under the auspices of Teddy Roosevelt.

Wilson was a disgrace.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 10:03 AM (4AVeu)

183 What's in the bag?

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller
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The head of the husband of the lady who's tied to the tree. She doesn't seem too upset.

Posted by: Dang at April 11, 2017 10:03 AM (8b+oT)

184 6. Spirit

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 11, 2017 09:48 AM (B+qrE)

I flew them once, because it was last minute and they had, by far, the cheapest fare.

I expected nothing, yet I was disappointed!

[And the return flight? I had a death in the family and couldn't use the ticket. They told me to fvck off when I asked for a refund]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 11, 2017 10:03 AM (rF0hx)

185 The Barrel is warming up in the bullpen....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 11, 2017 10:04 AM (jjaLl)

186 You guys are good at winging it!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 11, 2017 10:04 AM (ul9CR)

187 171
I find, as a rule of thumb, anything that's going to be shown on a "public broadcast" channel will most likely be leftist idiocy.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 11, 2017 10:01 AM (X6fMO)

===============

The fun is finding out what flavor of leftist idiocy appears.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:04 AM (mC1ZI)

188 >>>Birches? I thought they were willows.<<<

You're barking up the wrong tree.

Posted by: Fritz at April 11, 2017 10:04 AM (2Mnv1)

189 CBD, Thanks for another Larrson painting. This one uses gentle colors and a sylvan setting to create a wonderful, relaxing scene. It is not profound but sure is expressive and effective. Looking at this painting should lower blood pressure by thirty points. This one strikes a chord because I've always loved the look of birch trees.

I mentioned this the last time, Kindle has several collections of Larrson's works for 2.99. They are a bargain, in my opinion.

Posted by: JTB at April 11, 2017 10:04 AM (V+03K)

190 i remember when flight attendants were called stewardesses and stewards......they were helpful, young and attractive....not so much anymore.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 10:04 AM (0O7c5)

191 Aileron? I hardly knew her!
You won't get far with that altitude, mister!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 10:04 AM (nlbfN)

192 Young Hillary Clinton, unable to locate a bollard, steadies herself against a birch. Soon she will be tossed headfirst into a canoe and rowed hastily across the lake to a "hospital" prepared especially for her needs. . .

Posted by: simplemind at April 11, 2017 10:05 AM (xVRrG)

193 Gear up.

Posted by: United Herr Pilot at April 11, 2017 10:05 AM (57R5r)

194 You can't de-plane me. Who would spot the gremlins??

Posted by: William Shatner at April 11, 2017 10:05 AM (vRcUp)

195 This painting does have a disturbing undertone after one sees "Midwinter Sacrifice."

Posted by: josephistan at April 11, 2017 10:05 AM (7HtZB)

196 194 You can't de-plane me. Who would spot the gremlins??
Posted by: William Shatner at April 11, 2017 10:05 AM (vRcUp)

=================

"That happened to me too!"
-John Lithgow

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:06 AM (mC1ZI)

197 We sure that's a Birch?

Looks more like an Asspin.

Posted by: Dang at April 11, 2017 10:06 AM (8b+oT)

198 Oops.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 11, 2017 10:06 AM (kTF2Z)

199 girlybitch?
Posted by: Girl being molested by tree at April 11, 2017 09:58 AM (oGRue)



No. I spend hours booking a trip and travel, pay for the flight in advance, endure the hassle and Hell at the airport, and I'm told I'm being randomly selected to be ousted off prepaid transportation? Not to mention having to rearrange my personal and professional life at the other end?

So when you purchase an airline ticket, it's only a "possibilty" the airline is going to let you travel?

If this happened to me, I'd be pissed as Hell. And screaming bloody murder.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:07 AM (TdMsT)

200 194 You can't de-plane me. Who would spot the gremlins??
Posted by: William Shatner at April 11, 2017 10:05 AM (vRcUp)

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de-plane! de-plane!

Posted by: Tatoo (totally not a gremlin) at April 11, 2017 10:07 AM (oGRue)

201 First to use flamethrowers too, Adirondack Patriot, and bombing civilian populations from the air as a terror weapon against the enemy's will to fight.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 10:07 AM (nlbfN)

202 Beautiful paintings!
Thanks Grammie Winger & CBD!

But you can't fool me...Midwinter Sacrifice is really just a snapshot of United Airlines asking for 'volunteers'!
Amirite?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at April 11, 2017 10:08 AM (oQQwD)

203 $2.50 for a cup of coffee???

Man, that shows how much I get out.

Upscale here for coffee is $1.25.No way am I gonna pay that for garbage brew.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 10:08 AM (S/hVx)

204 Spirit

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 11, 2017 09:48 AM (B+qrE)

I flew them once, because it was last minute and they had, by far, the cheapest fare.

I expected nothing, yet I was disappointed!





Did you know that wing seat rows on Spirit don't recline?
Medieval torture devices have nothing on an airline seat that doesn't recline even a few degrees. Especially from Dallas to Vegas with a stop in Denver.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:08 AM (EAA/O)

205 Aileron? I hardly knew her!
You won't get far with that altitude, mister!
Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 10:04 AM (nlbfN)


YER ON GUARRRRRRD

https://youtu.be/YoZE0nE60sk?t=3m12s

Posted by: 121.500 at April 11, 2017 10:08 AM (8nWyX)

206 I can understand Larrson thinking "Midwinter Sacrifice" is his greatest work. Compared to his usual, homely works, it is spectacular and shows his technical mastery.

Posted by: JTB at April 11, 2017 10:08 AM (V+03K)

207 6 women and one dude? Must be Mormon's.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 11, 2017 10:08 AM (57R5r)

208 Its no pollock

Posted by: Pollock at April 11, 2017 09:40 AM (DdGS0)



With a name like Larsson he's probably a Scandi, unless it was shortened from Larssonski

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 11, 2017 10:08 AM (493sH)

209 If this happened to me, I'd be pissed as Hell. And screaming bloody murder.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:07 AM (TdMsT)
---------------------------------------------
Once the full transcript is available, we will know what the Chinaman doctor screamed.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 10:09 AM (SsblQ)

210 If this happened to me, I'd be pissed as Hell. And screaming bloody murder.

---

agreed. But i'm more Howard Dean embarrassing scream than manly tirade screaming. Give me more Boon from the end of Animal House.

Posted by: Tatoo (totally not a gremlin) at April 11, 2017 10:09 AM (oGRue)

211 Smoke at Moscow airport caused by grass burning nearby - emergency services


====




Reuters. Salt, grain, one each.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 11, 2017 10:09 AM (5FLKM)

212 Great! Now I have a taste for lingonberry jam on Swedish pancakes. SIGH!

Posted by: JTB at April 11, 2017 10:09 AM (V+03K)

213 Duke, you're lucky I'm busy streaming a "Girls" marathon this morning...


Posted by: The Barrel at April 11, 2017 10:10 AM (jjaLl)

214 >>i remember when flight attendants were called stewardesses and stewards......they were helpful, young and attractive....not so much anymore.....

I remember when air travel wasn't a glorified Greyhound trip. The whole experience is awful now.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 10:10 AM (/tuJf)

215 Aileron? I hardly knew her!
You won't get far with that altitude, mister!

Posted by: andycanuck


Thinking you have the wrong angle of attack there.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 10:10 AM (9krrF)

216 United: Redefining hospitality one asskicking at at time.

Posted by: Fritz at April 11, 2017 10:10 AM (2Mnv1)

217 The way those two in the middle are growing, they look like clonal trees which makes them look like Aspens, but I looked up the painting to be sure, and they're birches. Some of the markings are chevron-shaped. That's what gave it away.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 11, 2017 10:11 AM (ul9CR)

218
First to use flamethrowers too, Adirondack Patriot, and bombing civilian populations from the air as a terror weapon against the enemy's will to fight.
Posted by: andycanuck


Somebody has to be first.
Nobody is last.

Posted by: Peter Frampton at April 11, 2017 10:11 AM (IqV8l)

219 Did you know that wing seat rows on Spirit don't recline?

Medieval torture devices have nothing on an airline seat that
doesn't recline even a few degrees. Especially from Dallas to Vegas with
a stop in Denver.

Posted by: rickb223
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I flew across the Atlantic in the back row. Seats don't recline and you are right by the restrooms. And that deodorizer doesn't work as well as you want it to.

Posted by: Dang at April 11, 2017 10:11 AM (8b+oT)

220 216
United: Redefining hospitality one asskicking at at time.

Posted by: Fritz at April 11, 2017 10:10 AM (2Mnv1)
that needs to go viral

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 10:11 AM (0O7c5)

221
First to use flamethrowers too, Adirondack Patriot, and bombing civilian
populations from the air as a terror weapon against the enemy's will to
fight.


Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 10:07 AM (nlbfN)

Any idiot who thinks that Wilson was anti-war is a fucking retard - and if you doubt it - then I say Trump should re-pass Wilson's wonderful, progressive, "anti war" Sedition Act of 1918 and restart conscription - you know - for the kids - and to show how wonderfully anti-war he is, of course.

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 11, 2017 10:11 AM (Fb9aZ)

222

Yaw!

Posted by: Yaw! at April 11, 2017 10:11 AM (7HtZB)

223 United: Redefining hospitality one asskicking at at time.
------------------------------
Does give more heft to the constant request from the attendants to quickly "stow your bags and be seated". Or else...

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 10:12 AM (SsblQ)

224 Thinking you have the wrong angle of attack there.
Normally I'd be upset about that comment but I'm going to let it roll off of me instead.

Serenity now.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 10:12 AM (nlbfN)

225 Did you know that wing seat rows on Spirit don't recline?
Medieval torture devices have nothing on an airline seat that doesn't recline even a few degrees. Especially from Dallas to Vegas with a stop in Denver.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:08 AM (EAA/O)

Dallas to Vegas isn't nonstop??? That sucks.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:12 AM (Jcg9Q)

226 If this happened to me, I'd be pissed as Hell. And screaming bloody murder.



Put your hands on me when I haven't thrown a punch....

And I will be throwing some.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:12 AM (EAA/O)

227 I remember when air travel wasn't a glorified Greyhound trip. The whole experience is awful now.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 10:10 AM (/tuJf)

Heh! Last week I was looking at some vintage air travel photos from the 50s and 60s to use in a presentation on cabin safety and egress. Holy cow.....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 11, 2017 10:13 AM (VRsLi)

228 Closest I've ever been to the barrel. I've seen things, man!

*Thousand yard stare*

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 11, 2017 10:13 AM (kTF2Z)

229 Dallas to Vegas isn't nonstop??? That sucks.




Not on the return leg.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:13 AM (EAA/O)

230 United down over 4 percent now.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:13 AM (Jcg9Q)

231 Yaw!

Posted by: Yaw! at April 11, 2017 10:11 AM (7HtZB)


Don't forget us!

Posted by: Roll -n- Pitch at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (jjaLl)

232 Thinking you have the wrong angle of attack there.
Normally I'd be upset about that comment but I'm going to let it roll off of me instead.

Serenity now.

Posted by: andycanuck


Eh, I'm been refining my pitch.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (9krrF)

233 So. No takers on the Drudge comment and response above.

Nevertheless I'm really curious/ concerned about what appears to be a tilt to the left at Drudge.

Any thoughts?

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (TdMsT)

234 230 United down over 4 percent now.
Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile

Please tell me the Clintons are deep in United

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (FZYNt)

235 230 United down over 4 percent now.
Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:13 AM (Jcg9Q)

Sounds like they're in need of a bailout.

That's how this works, right?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (72PAC)

236 Any idiot who thinks that Wilson was anti-war is a fucking retard - and if you doubt it - then I say Trump should re-pass Wilson's wonderful, progressive, "anti war" Sedition Act of 1918 and restart conscription - you know - for the kids - and to show how wonderfully anti-war he is, of course.

I'd love Trump to reinstitute John Adams' Alien and Sedition Acts.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (X6fMO)

237 Normally I'd be upset about that comment but I'm going to let it roll off of me instead.

Serenity now.
Posted by: andycanuck



But you aim to misbehave.
Can't stop the signal, Mal.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:15 AM (EAA/O)

238 Any thoughts?
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (TdMsT)


I think we're only allowed to speak in aviation puns now.

Empennage.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 11, 2017 10:15 AM (8nWyX)

239 flamethrowers
-----------------------------
Nothing like the smell of roasting Jap in the early morning tropical island breeze.

Posted by: Thousand Yard Stare at April 11, 2017 10:15 AM (SsblQ)

240 "Aisle be back!"

Posted by: United ex-passenger at April 11, 2017 10:15 AM (GzXyM)

241 Well, the Zerohedgers are focused like lasers on the "PHAX" tHat TEh mOsSad fer SHUR plANTed ExploZives oN WTC ONE and tWO - GoOglE iT!!

...

Think I'll just sit here and look at this peaceful painting.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 11, 2017 10:16 AM (5FLKM)

242 But you aim to misbehave.
Can't stop the signal, Mal.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:15 AM (EAA/O)

Too soon.

Posted by: Hoban Washburne at April 11, 2017 10:16 AM (72PAC)

243 226 If this happened to me, I'd be pissed as Hell. And screaming bloody murder.



Put your hands on me when I haven't thrown a punch....

And I will be throwing some.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:12 AM (EAA/O)



Oh God yes.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:16 AM (TdMsT)

244 So. No takers on the Drudge comment and response above.

Nevertheless I'm really curious/ concerned about what appears to be a tilt to the left at Drudge.

Any thoughts?

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (TdMsT)

I haven't noticed anything, but I don't look every day.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:16 AM (Jcg9Q)

245 Dr's name is David Dao and has checkered past. Not saying he deserves an armrest facial, but probably should have been part of his thought process when situation started escalating.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 11, 2017 10:16 AM (N1U8L)

246 If this happened to me, I'd be pissed as Hell. And screaming bloody murder.



Put your hands on me when I haven't thrown a punch....

And I will be throwing some.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:12 AM (EAA/O)



I think the grace note in all of this is the Chicago PD police report that they were carrying this guy off the plane "when he fell".

The Chicago PD managed to throw the guy down a flight of stairs while he was on the plane. I mean, respect, man, that's impressive even for the Chicago PD.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 10:16 AM (mf5HN)

247 Eh, I'm been refining my pitch.
Yaw, man, yaw. It shows. Well done.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 10:16 AM (nlbfN)

248 Please tell me the Clintons are deep in United

I'm united and deep in, honey!

Right, Huma?

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at April 11, 2017 10:17 AM (X6fMO)

249 Any thoughts?
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (TdMsT)

I think we're only allowed to speak in aviation puns now.


Any commenter here is free to pitch for a new discussion...

Posted by: Adriane the Coffee Critic ... at April 11, 2017 10:17 AM (AoK0a)

250 Q: What's the difference between a passenger and a 500lb bomb?

A: Absofuckinglutely nothing.

Posted by: United Airlines at April 11, 2017 10:17 AM (326rv)

251 We encourage carry-on thuggage.

Posted by: United Airlines at April 11, 2017 10:17 AM (57R5r)

252 Please tell me the Clintons are deep in United

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (FZYNt)

Well whoever is, a couple more dollars and the dip buyers will probably show up.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:17 AM (Jcg9Q)

253 Nevertheless I'm really curious/ concerned about what appears to be a tilt to the left at Drudge.
Any thoughts?

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (TdMsT)


I agree 100%. I've been tired of Drudge for a while now- seems like every link is to the NYT, WaPo, CNN, etc...... plus, the linked stories don't come close to the breathlessness of some of the headlines.....




Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (jjaLl)

254 Dr's name is David Dao and has checkered past. Not saying he deserves an armrest facial, but probably should have been part of his thought process when situation started escalating.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 11, 2017 10:16 AM (N1U8L)



Bitch shouldn't wear her skirt that short, amirite?

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (mf5HN)

255 Dr's name is David Dao and has checkered past. Not saying he deserves an armrest facial, but probably should have been part of his thought process when situation started escalating.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 11, 2017 10:16 AM (N1U8L)



I heard he was under review a few years ago by the Tennessee medical board for a patient complaint. The guy went in for chest pains and a collapsed lung and the doctor gave him a genital exam. He also offered the guy prescription drugs in exchange for sex

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (493sH)

256 >>Heh! Last week I was looking at some vintage air travel photos from the 50s and 60s to use in a presentation on cabin safety and egress. Holy cow.....

My ex's sister was a stewardess for TWA back in the day. She was recruited out of college and rather than use her degree in in her major she took the job because she could make more money acting as a flying waitress and she got to fly around the world.

And she was hot. Of course this is when women thought being hot was a good thing rather than a curse by the patriarchy.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (/tuJf)

257 40,000 passengers bumped a year. Why is this guy the one who gets to refuse?

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (014lE)

258 238 Any thoughts?
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (TdMsT)

I think we're only allowed to speak in aviation puns now.

Empennage.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 11, 2017 10:15 AM (8nWyX)



I guess I'll have to update my flight plan before I comment further.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (TdMsT)

259 Shit. Someone beat me to a "yaw" crack. I guess I'm not very dynamic today.

Serenity NOW!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (nlbfN)

260 Could have been worse. United Airlines could have received their passengers the way the Luftwaffe received the 8th Air Force.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (Nwg0u)

261 flamethrowers
-----------------------------
Nothing like the smell of roasting Jap in the early morning tropical island breeze.
Posted by: Thousand Yard Stare




Korean bbq.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (EAA/O)

262 Wifey and I are going to Europe to see the sites and the seasonal car burnings, but mostly the sites.

We are flying a non-US carrier.

We are NOT paying for baggage, nosiree.

Posted by: blaster at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (tewYv)

263 I think the grace note in all of this is the Chicago PD police report that they were carrying this guy off the plane "when he fell".

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o, i didn't realize he was trying to get OUT of Chicago. His actions are obviously rational in that case.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (oGRue)

264 I think the grace note in all of this is the Chicago PD police report that they were carrying this guy off the plane "when he fell".

Shot while trying to escape.

Trust the cops like you would us.....Why are you running away?

Posted by: United Airlines at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (326rv)

265
I heard he was under review a few years ago by the Tennessee medical board for a patient complaint. The guy went in for chest pains and a collapsed lung and the doctor gave him a genital exam. He also offered the guy prescription drugs in exchange for sex
Posted by: TheQuietMan

sounds like he missed his calling.

He should be a high school teacher

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 11, 2017 10:19 AM (FZYNt)

266 I agree "Midwinter Sacrifice" is meh. I think the problem lies dear Horatio in the faces and expressions. They reduce the work to graphic novel quality while reminding me in someway of the works of Mobius.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 11, 2017 10:19 AM (9qw5X)

267 40,000 passengers bumped a year. Why is this guy the one who gets to refuse?



He understands contract law?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:19 AM (EAA/O)

268 Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 11, 2017 10:16 AM (N1U8L)

Bullshit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 11, 2017 10:20 AM (rF0hx)

269 I'd love Trump to reinstitute John Adams' Alien and Sedition Acts.
---------------------------------------------
The Alien Enemy Act is in part still in the code. FDR made some use of it.

For the rest, I am sure the Freedumb Caucus will get right on it.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 10:20 AM (SsblQ)

270 Coffee, tea, or baseball bat upside the head?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 11, 2017 10:20 AM (Nwg0u)

271 >>
Bitch shouldn't wear her skirt that short, amirite?


He's just lucky there was no Pinball Machine on board.

Posted by: garrett at April 11, 2017 10:20 AM (rlFK2)

272 267 40,000 passengers bumped a year. Why is this guy the one who gets to refuse?



He understands contract law?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:19 AM (EAA/O)

Educate me.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 11, 2017 10:20 AM (014lE)

273 253 Nevertheless I'm really curious/ concerned about what appears to be a tilt to the left at Drudge.
Any thoughts?

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (TdMsT)


I agree 100%. I've been tired of Drudge for a while now- seems like every link is to the NYT, WaPo, CNN, etc...... plus, the linked stories don't come close to the breathlessness of some of the headlines.....




Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (jjaLl)




And Drudge headlines appear to be skewed against Trump.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:20 AM (TdMsT)

274 Hey! Hey!

This is airplane!

This is airplane!

Posted by: Airline Passenger at April 11, 2017 10:20 AM (4AVeu)

275 United's top shareholder is Berkshire Hathaway, i.e. Warren Buffet.

Suck it Warren!!

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:21 AM (Jcg9Q)

276 Would this have happened if Dr. Faceplant was black?

Posted by: Under Fire at April 11, 2017 10:21 AM (57R5r)

277 >>>The guy went in for chest pains and a collapsed lung and the doctor gave him a genital exam.



OH MY!!!

Posted by: George Takei at April 11, 2017 10:21 AM (jjaLl)

278

Curious nobody is mentioning the obvious solution to the airline seating problem--stop overbooking and the issue disappears.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 10:21 AM (S/hVx)

279 Duke, you're lucky I'm busy streaming a "Girls" marathon this morning...

Posted by: The Barrel at April 11, 2017 10:10 AM (jjaLl)


And when you get to any of Lena Dunham's nude scenes, you need to slow it down to frame-by-frame crawl in order to elicit the maximum amount of horror from your unfortunate viewers.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 11, 2017 10:21 AM (SzBdI)

280 He understands contract law?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:19 AM (EAA/O)

Educate me.
Posted by: Jack Sock



Crudely. They offer the ticket. He buys said ticket. There is now a contract to transport him.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:22 AM (EAA/O)

281 Economy is turning.

Seeing lots of good positions advertised and having great success on the job hunt. Also, people are shopping like crazy at the mall.

The numbers are trending good - better than trending bad.

Posted by: blaster at April 11, 2017 10:22 AM (tewYv)

282 The guy went in for chest pains and a collapsed lung and the doctor gave him a genital exam.

Dude's clearly VA material.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 10:22 AM (9krrF)

283 236 Any idiot who thinks that Wilson was anti-war is a fucking retard - and if you doubt it - then I say Trump should re-pass Wilson's wonderful, progressive, "anti war" Sedition Act of 1918 and restart conscription - you know - for the kids - and to show how wonderfully anti-war he is, of course.

I'd love Trump to reinstitute John Adams' Alien and Sedition Acts.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (X6fMO)

================

I'm okay with the Alien part. The Sedition part was the unconstitutional monstrosity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:22 AM (ELUpj)

284 I heard he was under review a few years ago by the Tennessee medical board for a patient complaint. The guy went in for chest pains and a collapsed lung and the doctor gave him a genital exam. He also offered the guy prescription drugs in exchange for sex
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (493sH)


Even if true, it's completely irrelevant.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 11, 2017 10:22 AM (0mRoj)

285 Curious nobody is mentioning the obvious solution to the airline seating problem
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HIGH SPEED RAIL

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 10:22 AM (SsblQ)

286 Dr's name is David Dao and has checkered past. Not saying he deserves an armrest facial, but probably should have been part of his thought process when situation started escalating.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 11, 2017 10:16 AM (N1U8L)

Armrest facial, LMAO.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:23 AM (Jcg9Q)

287 40,000 passengers bumped a year. Why is this guy the one who gets to refuse?

---

40, 000 men and women everyyear, Like Romeo and Juliet
40, 000 men and women everyyear, Redefine happiness
Another 40, 000 coming everyyear, We can be like they are

Come on baby, don't fear the bumber
Baby take my hand, don't fear the bumper
We won't be able to fly, don't fear the bumper
Baby I'm your man

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 11, 2017 10:23 AM (oGRue)

288 >>Crudely. They offer the ticket. He buys said ticket. There is now a contract to transport him.

I hope that is not the course his lawyer takes. He will lose.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 10:23 AM (/tuJf)

289 40,000 passengers bumped a year. Why is this guy the one who gets to refuse?
Posted by: Jack Sock

Preach it.

never mind we fly planes but can't count, or that we boarded the cattle car and THEN pulled this stunt, or that we lowballed the guy counter to Federal regs, and then drew blood.

You and our CEO are on the same page.

Posted by: United Airlines at April 11, 2017 10:23 AM (326rv)

290 >>Crudely. They offer the ticket. He buys said ticket. There is now a contract to transport him.


Well, you obvioucly know the ins and outs of contract law.

Posted by: garrett at April 11, 2017 10:23 AM (rlFK2)

291 So let me get this straight.

After the doctor was physically dragged off the airplane, Chicago PD decided to perform a bit of rendition on him before releasing the guy as something of a warning?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 11, 2017 10:23 AM (9qw5X)

292 stop overbooking and the issue disappears.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 10:21 AM (S/hVx)

It's not that simple. The airlines have found that overbooking is the most cost effective way to ensure full planes, which keep costs down.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 11, 2017 10:24 AM (rF0hx)

293 233 So. No takers on the Drudge comment and response above.

Nevertheless I'm really curious/ concerned about what appears to be a tilt to the left at Drudge.

Any thoughts?
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (TdMsT)

Drudge seems to tack one way or the other based on what gets the most hits. I think he just plays it by ear and tilts the way that seems to get him more traffic. Love him or hate him, he knows how to get the hits.

Posted by: joncelli, Making with the Ewok Call at April 11, 2017 10:24 AM (RD7QR)

294 In approximately 8 months, you'll have the opportunity to have breakfast or lunch alfresco at my daughter's diner. The plans for the new patio are coming along swimmingly.

Also, it only take $2.00 to enjoy a delicious cup of Douwe Egberts rich Columbian coffee.

Posted by: jwest at April 11, 2017 10:24 AM (Zs4uk)

295 Saw a photo of the Burdoo shooter in the paper this am. I expect this story to be memory holed pronto.

Posted by: Infidel at April 11, 2017 10:24 AM (uKRys)

296 272 267 40,000 passengers bumped a year. Why is this guy the one who gets to refuse?



He understands contract law?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:19 AM (EAA/O)

Educate me.
Posted by: Jack Sock at April 11, 2017 10:20 AM (014lE


In my opinion, refusing to transport a person who has made and paid for said transport in advance, merely because the conveyer has DELIBERATELY OVERBOOKED is nothing short of kidnapping.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:24 AM (TdMsT)

297 I have been on United when they have overbooked. I volunteered a couple of times to give up my seat and they gave me a night in a hotel and a $500 voucher toward future use.

I traveled in my military uniform and the other passengers were very grateful. I was very happy with the compensated room and voucher.

I was able to do so because I had a flexible schedule. This doctor was not able to change his schedule and that's why he would not give up his seat.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 10:24 AM (4AVeu)

298 AP, I agree there's something off in the perspective and scale of the Midwinter's Sacrifice piece though I can't quantify it.


Curious nobody is mentioning the obvious solution to the airline seating problem--stop overbooking and the issue disappears.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 10:21 AM (S/hVx)



It wasn't overbooked. The seats were needed to get a United flight crew from Chicago to Louisville for a flight the next morning. That's why the four seats were needed.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 10:24 AM (mf5HN)

299 And Drudge headlines appear to be skewed against Trump.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 10:20 AM (TdMsT)


Yup.... not sure what's up over there, but Drudge isn't a go-to site for me like it used to be.....

Posted by: George Takei at April 11, 2017 10:24 AM (jjaLl)

300 >> stop overbooking and the issue disappears.



And Ticket Prices go up, up, up.

Posted by: garrett at April 11, 2017 10:25 AM (rlFK2)

301 #233 It just seems so to me. He seems to post in an anti-Trump manner. Things all going to hell in a hand basket. Plus Rachel Maddow is the queen of cable etc.

Posted by: AnnaS at April 11, 2017 10:25 AM (l4l/z)

302
I heard he was under review a few years ago by the Tennessee medical board for a patient complaint. The guy went in for chest pains and a collapsed lung and the doctor gave him a genital exam. He also offered the guy prescription drugs in exchange for sex

By the end of the week he'll be a serial killer.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 10:25 AM (IqV8l)

303 Off, Original Gay Sulu sock!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 11, 2017 10:25 AM (jjaLl)

304 291 So let me get this straight.

After the doctor was physically dragged off the airplane, Chicago PD decided to perform a bit of rendition on him before releasing the guy as something of a warning?
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 11, 2017 10:23 AM (9qw5X)

Watch that first step Doc -- it's a doozy! [Flings]

Posted by: Should be read in Bugs Bunny's voice at April 11, 2017 10:25 AM (RD7QR)

305 I'm busy streaming a "Girls" marathon this morning..

That's what I should have done!! the trick then would have been keeping ANYBODY on the plane.

Posted by: United Airlines at April 11, 2017 10:25 AM (326rv)

306 Crudely. They offer the ticket. He buys said ticket. There is now a contract to transport him.

I hope that is not the course his lawyer takes. He will lose.
Posted by: JackStraw



I honestly don't know. But when you buy a ticket, don't you have some rights, or is it a complete crap shoot?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:25 AM (EAA/O)

307 Birch Society?

Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at April 11, 2017 10:25 AM (0jR9T)

308 Curious nobody is mentioning the obvious solution to the airline seating problem--stop overbooking and the issue disappears.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 10:21 AM (S/hVx)


I keep saying this is what happens when you let government provide a soft protection for businesses (i.e. fascism).

What should be one of the most profitable things in the world, flying airplanes to awesome destinations, is indeed, operating on thin air and questionable profit margins.

So it's like fast food restaurants. They lose money if the clerks routinely give you three ketchup packets instead of two, and two napkins instead of one.

The airlines fail if they don't have a butt in every seat. Hence, overbooking is a necessity.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:25 AM (TOk1P)

309 They offer the ticket. He buys said ticket. There is now a contract to transport him.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:22 AM (EAA/O)

If only it were so.

You aren't guaranteed a place on any particular flight.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 11, 2017 10:25 AM (rF0hx)

310 Posted by: United Airlines at April 11, 2017 10:23 AM (326rv)

Your sarcasm doesn't eliminate the fact that airlines are allowed to bump people. Change the laws.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (014lE)

311 Fancy Tea Sipping Putin ponders why foolish Americans need so many women in their art.

Posted by: Ambiguously Gay Putin at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (i7TF8)

312 In approximately 8 months, you'll have the opportunity to have breakfast or lunch alfresco at my daughter's diner. The plans for the new patio are coming along swimmingly.

Also, it only take $2.00 to enjoy a delicious cup of Douwe Egberts rich Columbian coffee.

Posted by: jwest at April 11, 2017 10:24 AM (Zs4uk)

Is this place anywhere near Dallas?

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (Jcg9Q)

313 I heard he was under review a few years ago by the Tennessee medical
board for a patient complaint. The guy went in for chest pains and a
collapsed lung and the doctor gave him a genital exam. He also offered
the guy prescription drugs in exchange for sex.
====

Don't care if he was the star attraction at teh Folsom Street Fair.

Dude paid for his seat then got evicted. This seems to be the new hotness in American business, where instead of a like kind exchange of currency for services, it's "pay me and get out" with no recognition of an obligation on the part of the business. Happens everytime a tax-supported entity like the Federal Government gets mixed up in a for-profit enterprise. The enterprise goes from earning profit to trying to ompose tax without representation.

Hope he drags United through many painful years of litigation and the stupid CEO gets thrown out and his golden parachute is clawed back.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (5FLKM)

314 >>In my opinion, refusing to transport a person who has made and paid for said transport in advance, merely because the conveyer has DELIBERATELY OVERBOOKED is nothing short of kidnapping.


That's sensible.

Posted by: garrett at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (rlFK2)

315 Birch Society?

Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at April 11, 2017 10:25 AM (0jR9T)


Nah, she's hugging the tree. No tree huggers in Birch.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (TOk1P)

316 I'd love Trump to reinstitute John Adams' Alien and Sedition Acts.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 11, 2017 10:14 AM (X6fMO)

****
Either/or - I am fine with that - just thought it would be great to use the one passed by their great, progressive, hero Wilson - just to add me some extra butt hurt onto the lefty lefts as we arrest all of CNN, the NY Times and the WP, and cart them off to federal PMITA prison, for publishing/airing yet another "Trump's White House is in turmoil!!! Eleventy" OpEd/program

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (Fb9aZ)

317 And Ticket Prices go up, up, up.
Posted by: garrett

Exactly! let's keep ticket prices low...btw, did you want to be able to breathe on your flight? There's a user fee............

Posted by: United Airlines at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (326rv)

318 Good morning and welcome aboard United flight 860 with service to Louisville. Would you please turn your attention to the flight attendants as they demonstrate the safety features of this aircraft?

I SAID LOOK AT THE FUCKIN FLIGHT ATTENDANTS, ASSHOLES!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (kTF2Z)

319 We are flying a non-US carrier. We are NOT paying for baggage, nosiree.

Posted by: blaster at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (tewYv)

Flew Alitalia and Lufthansa last year for bidness. They had competitive rates with the US carriers, and they had great service and nice crews. Something United and American don't have.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (VRsLi)

320 Any spelling eror can be attributed to the fact that I am now wearing glasses - really really cheap ones.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 11, 2017 10:27 AM (5FLKM)

321 United: "Boy, we really screwed the pooch with customer service"
Northwest: "Hold my beer"

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at April 11, 2017 10:27 AM (laQYo)

322 Can we talk about Bruce Jenner here?

Posted by: franksalterego at April 11, 2017 10:27 AM (nqPt9)

323 Curious nobody is mentioning the obvious solution to the airline seating problem--stop overbooking and the issue disappears.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 10:21 AM (S/hVx)




I read that as "issue diapers" and thought that was a pretty good idea.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 11, 2017 10:27 AM (jjaLl)

324 there was a price 4 passengers would have jumped at....united didn't want to pay it.....now they get to pay a higher price.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 10:27 AM (0O7c5)

325 Mr rickb223, would you recite for us the facts of Hawkins versus McGee?

Posted by: Professor Charles W. Kingsfield Jr. at April 11, 2017 10:28 AM (nlbfN)

326 In my opinion, refusing to transport a person who has made and paid for said transport in advance, merely because the conveyer has DELIBERATELY OVERBOOKED is nothing short of kidnapping.
---------------------

That's sensible.

Posted by: garrett at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (rlFK2)


The airline industry: The Beatings Continue Until Customer Satisfaction Improves.

And people put up with it, because.... ooh shiny flying thing!

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:28 AM (TOk1P)

327 Can you imagine if other businesses operated like the airlines?

If you go in for surgery and the hospital says, "I'm sorry, we overbooked the operating room. You are going to have to wait for the next available time."

Or if you made reservations at a restaurant. "I'm sorry about your reservations, but we overbooked. Can you come back tomorrow?"

Or tickets to a really good baseball game. "Overbooked. I know you bought tickets for the Mets/Cardinals game, but can you come back when the Mets play the Kansas City Royals?"

Crazy.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 10:28 AM (4AVeu)

328 316 Either/or - I am fine with that - just thought it would be great to use the one passed by their great, progressive, hero Wilson - just to add me some extra butt hurt onto the lefty lefts as we arrest all of CNN, the NY Times and the WP, and cart them off to federal PMITA prison, for publishing/airing yet another "Trump's White House is in turmoil!!! Eleventy" OpEd/program
Posted by: Publius Redux at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (Fb9aZ)

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"Wait...." *does mental math* "My teacher told me that Democrats and Republicans switched sides in the 60s, so if Republicans did today what Democrats did in the 1910s, then it would just be normal, right? But...I'm supposed to love FDR and hate Coolidge...Why is this so confusing?"
-Very smart college student who's struggling with their core classes but acing that gender studies course

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:28 AM (ELUpj)

329 Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 10:24 AM (4AVeu)

That's the doctor's claim when trying to keep his seat. Someone was already covering his patients.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 11, 2017 10:28 AM (014lE)

330 >>I honestly don't know. But when you buy a ticket, don't you have some rights, or is it a complete crap shoot?

You have a contract that comes with a whole bunch of strings that include being bumped to a different flight basically at the airlines discretion.

This goes for cargo as well. In my old company we used to ship some of our product internationally as freight on commercial airlines. Even if there was room and the airline took our reservation and money, the captain could decline to take the cargo at his or her discretion.

This happened a lot more than once and it was an enormous pain in the ass but perfectly legal.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 10:28 AM (/tuJf)

331 Can we talk about Bruce Jenner here?
Posted by: franksalterego at April 11, 2017 10:27 AM (nqPt9)


Missing a pitot tube that one, yeah?

Posted by: hogmartin at April 11, 2017 10:28 AM (8nWyX)

332 They offer the ticket. He buys said ticket. There is now a contract to transport him.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:22 AM (EAA/O)


There's a "we can bump your ass off the flight if we want to" clause in the fine print of every airline ticket sold.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 11, 2017 10:28 AM (SzBdI)

333
Once again.

United should have handled this way differently.

But Dr Screamer was an ass. Doc Lives Matter aint a meovement.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2017 10:29 AM (8XRCm)

334 324 there was a price 4 passengers would have jumped at....united didn't want to pay it.....now they get to pay a higher price.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 10:27 AM (0O7c5)

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Penny wise and pound foolish.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:29 AM (ELUpj)

335 Midwinter Sacrifice is one of the more 'flat' paintings I have ever seen by a post Renaissance artist. Also, wth is going on there?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 11, 2017 10:29 AM (+c7tK)

336 If you go in for surgery and the hospital says, "I'm sorry, we overbooked the operating room. You are going to have to wait for the next available time."

Crazy.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 10:28 AM (4AVeu)

You're painting that like a ridiculous example, but that happens in countries with socialized medicine.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 11, 2017 10:29 AM (KUaJL)

337 The airline industry: Our Customers Are Damned Near Literally Frogs In Frying Pans

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:30 AM (TOk1P)

338 298: I
The flight was initially overbooked. But enough passengers took the reward that they got all booked passengers onboard. But Then they still had to seat the three or four United employees who had to get to their next flight and no one who was left wanted the offers.

Posted by: LASue at April 11, 2017 10:30 AM (CLKfs)

339 AlextheChick, I think the skewed perspective starts with the two circular portraits in the upper right and left corners. One can be viewed more fully than the other so we the viewer are presented with an offset view. That might be a deliberate bit of uneasiness the artist did to go 'hey this scene ain't quite kosher' or something. Plus the courses of stonework, it all seems to be an even flat color with only darker lines of gray to indicate any differences.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 11, 2017 10:30 AM (9qw5X)

340 Obvious simple solution to the overbooking situation, that will guarantee there will never be any controversy about it again - allow airlines to continue to do it, if they need to, but pass a law mandating that anyone who is kicked off a plane due to overbooking MUST be paid $50,000 in cash within 24 hours.

You think anyone would ever complain about being kicked again? You think airlines would ever allow anyone to get kicked again???

The entire problem would vanish overnight.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 11, 2017 10:30 AM (V2Yro)

341 If you go in for surgery and the hospital says, "I'm sorry, we overbooked the operating room. You are going to have to wait for the next available time."

Or if you made reservations at a restaurant. "I'm sorry about your reservations, but we overbooked. Can you come back tomorrow?"

Or tickets to a really good baseball game. "Overbooked. I know you bought tickets for the Mets/Cardinals game, but can you come back when the Mets play the Kansas City Royals?"

Crazy.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 10:28 AM (4AVeu)

You pay 6 bucks for a latte, the barista takes your money and tells you to get the fuck out. You ask for a manager, who calls the cops and has them stomp your ass and drag you out by the wrists.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 11, 2017 10:30 AM (0mRoj)

342 Penny wise and pound foolish.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:29 AM (ELUpj)

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Yup.... and we'll pound him again if he gives us any lip.

Posted by: United Airlrines at April 11, 2017 10:31 AM (8XRCm)

343 United- Problems? Think of how many pets are delivered dead....think real long and hard. Still have a problem?

Posted by: United Airlines at April 11, 2017 10:31 AM (326rv)

344 Bruce Jenner calls his, "just a penis"

I call mine, "Geronimo"

Posted by: franksalterego at April 11, 2017 10:31 AM (nqPt9)

345 crew scheduling.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 10:31 AM (0O7c5)

346 Thank you so much CBD! Bluebell alerted me to the fact that you had chosen this particular Carl Larsson painting. There is so much to love about Carl Larsson - I have Carl Larsson placemats, mugs, books, refrigerator magnets, prints - you name it. He is so lovely. Sweden, at a much more innocent time.


Notice it is a warm weather scene. Swedes love their summers, probably because they are so short. I love his painting "Outside Sommer Winds Are Blowing"


You're a doll, CBD.

Posted by: grammie winger - alleluia! at April 11, 2017 10:31 AM (dFi94)

347 Posted by: Tom Servo at April 11, 2017 10:30 AM (V2Yro)

And so would the airlines.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 11, 2017 10:32 AM (014lE)

348 I'm okay with the Alien part. The Sedition part was the unconstitutional monstrosity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:22 AM (ELUpj)


Very true, but I look at it the same way I look at my vote for Trump - revenge.

Hey, Tingles - want to call Trump's family just like Saddam's? Go ahead. And when you're finished, there's a nice space in PMITA prison waiting for you.

It's like the short discussion we had yesterday re Preston Brooks - too many people in government and the MFM shoot off their mouths knowing there will be no consequences. I want consequences to be back on the table.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 11, 2017 10:32 AM (X6fMO)

349 Posted by: rickb223
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I flew across the Atlantic in the back row. Seats don't recline and you are right by the restrooms. And that deodorizer doesn't work as well as you want it to.
Posted by: Dang at April 11, 2017 10:11 AM (8b+oT)

I flew back from my dad's funeral to my job in Athens. I had to go to work as soon as I landed, so I was trying to sleep, but I was in a seat backing the galley for economy, and the rest of my section was filled with partying senior citizens, who got drunk and started stripping. They started a conga line in the aisle, and poured beer on me when I wouldn't get up and dance with them. (I was 26 at the time.)

The flight attendants couldn't calm these old goats down. And I have flown with actual goats in the cabin, that were better behaved.

Posted by: moki at April 11, 2017 10:32 AM (V+V48)

350 What worries me most from this United debacle is that some idiot congressman is going to propose some idiot legislation that does something idiotic, like forbids by statute the airline practice of overbooking. Nobody will benefit and ticket prices will go up - and everyone will wonder why.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 11, 2017 10:32 AM (SzBdI)

351 Who you callin a birch?

Posted by: eleven at April 11, 2017 10:32 AM (qUNWi)

352 So let me get this straight.

After the doctor was physically dragged off the airplane, Chicago PD decided to perform a bit of rendition on him before releasing the guy as something of a warning?
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 11, 2017 10:23 AM (9qw5X)



He "fell" while they were taking him off the plane.

The part that is more worrisome is the whole running back on bit.

Let's step away from the joy of this situation. Let's say that a person was removed from the plane for an actual disturbance. Someone was drunk and being violent or someone has having some kind of mental breakdown or someone was acting in a suspicious manner so that person was removed by security.

How the holy hell did he turn around and get away from the cops to go running back on the plane?

That is the part that needs answered because that is a pretty damn major violation of security at least from where I'm sitting.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 10:32 AM (mf5HN)

353 >>Can we talk about Bruce Jenner here?


Not in the Cockpit.

Not anymore.

Posted by: The Pilot at April 11, 2017 10:33 AM (rlFK2)

354 >>>Bitch shouldn't wear her skirt that short, amirite?
Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 10:18 AM (mf5HN)

No, but he should have tucked his shirt in a little better. Maybe wear some Kareem Abdul Jabbar goggles too.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 11, 2017 10:33 AM (N1U8L)

355 335 Midwinter Sacrifice is one of the more 'flat' paintings I have ever seen by a post Renaissance artist. Also, wth is going on there?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 11, 2017 10:29 AM (+c7tK)

According to Wiki, it refers to a legendary king (Domald, IIRC) who was involuntarily sacrificed to break a famine and bring good crops.

Posted by: Should be read in Bugs Bunny's voice at April 11, 2017 10:33 AM (RD7QR)

356 348 Very true, but I look at it the same way I look at my vote for Trump - revenge.

Hey, Tingles - want to call Trump's family just like Saddam's? Go ahead. And when you're finished, there's a nice space in PMITA prison waiting for you.

It's like the short discussion we had yesterday re Preston Brooks - too many people in government and the MFM shoot off their mouths knowing there will be no consequences. I want consequences to be back on the table.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 11, 2017 10:32 AM (X6fMO)

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You're right, of course.

If I remember correctly, the Sedition Act wasn't ever declared unconstitutional in any formal way. Jefferson just simply refused to enforce it when he assumed office.

I wonder if it's still on the books in some way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:33 AM (ELUpj)

357 Bugs sock off.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at April 11, 2017 10:34 AM (RD7QR)

358 >>That is the part that needs answered because that is a pretty damn major violation of security at least from where I'm sitting.


The Booster Seat?

Posted by: garrett at April 11, 2017 10:34 AM (rlFK2)

359 It's not physically possible for the woman on the left to stand like that, is it?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at April 11, 2017 10:34 AM (fD1ST)

360
Did Bruce *really* do the takeadickfromee procedure??

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2017 10:34 AM (8XRCm)

361 Also, it only take $2.00 to enjoy a delicious cup of Douwe Egberts rich Columbian coffee.

Posted by: jwest at April 11, 2017 10:24 AM (Zs4uk)
Misspell "Colombian" again and Mrs. Redux will give you a "Colombian necktie." Just sayin' Pet peeve of mine even before I married a Colombian woman

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 11, 2017 10:34 AM (Fb9aZ)

362 Can you imagine if other businesses operated like the airlines?

If you go in for surgery and the hospital says, "I'm sorry, we overbooked the operating room. You are going to have to wait for the next available time."

Or if you made reservations at a restaurant. "I'm sorry about your reservations, but we overbooked. Can you come back tomorrow?"

Or tickets to a really good baseball game. "Overbooked. I know you bought tickets for the Mets/Cardinals game, but can you come back when the Mets play the Kansas City Royals?"

Crazy.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 10:28 AM (4AVeu)


It's even worse than that. Surgery? Sorry fella, we have an employee who needs an operation today, so we'll just toss you out on a gurney because we don't like your attitude.

Sorry, restaurant customer, I know we put that steak you ALREADY PAID for under your nose, but the bus boys are hungry...

Sorry, baseball fan, but the grounds crew need a place to sit. Too bad it's a World Series game, your needs are not important to us.

Oh, and we're really not sorry-

Signed, the CEO.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:34 AM (TOk1P)

363 >>>190 i remember when flight attendants were called stewardesses and stewards......they were helpful, young and attractive....not so much anymore.....


yep, my family knew four beautiful stewardesses.
i don't know any now.

Posted by: concrete girl at April 11, 2017 10:34 AM (eQSM0)

364
The Booster Seat?

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*backs away from garret


Dude.... this is a NEW jacket Im wearing.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2017 10:35 AM (8XRCm)

365 600 yards, Zero Wind.

No sanctioned targets.

Posted by: SniperintheWoodHouse at April 11, 2017 10:35 AM (xGZ+b)

366 >>The entire problem would vanish overnight.

So would air travel. Can you imagine how much a ticket would cost if you started mandating a $50,000 payoff?

The reason the airlines overbook is that a pretty well known number of people don't show for any given flight. Overbookings are based on these statistics. If they didn't there would be no such thing as flying standby.

But like any statistical model, sometimes everyone shows up and then comes the bumping game. It sucks and obviously United needs a better plan but if they change to a fully guaranteed ticket model with huge payouts somebody is going to pay for it and it is not going to be the airlines.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 10:35 AM (/tuJf)

367 When we at The First Persons Free Bleeding Center in Alburquque travel to the annual Eskimo Peoples summit, we take the planes with the painting of Jerry Garcia on the thing that goes up at the back.

Posted by: Spirit Cloggenstein in Albuquerque, NM at April 11, 2017 10:35 AM (57R5r)

368 Whose birch this is?



(Definitely not originating with me)

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 11, 2017 10:35 AM (MZcWR)

369 Nice !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at April 11, 2017 10:35 AM (KGH7Z)

370 Hysteria sells and drives traffic.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 11, 2017 10:35 AM (FqgrG)

371 Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 10:32 AM (mf5HN)

If I had to guess , after they removed him from the plane they did not intend on detaining him as he was technically just a bumped passenger. They did not think he would run back to the plane.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 11, 2017 10:36 AM (014lE)

372 Wilson was a disgrace.

-
Who campaigned in 1916 on "He Kept Us Out of the War" and got us into the two months into his second term. But he was a Donk so it's all good.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 11, 2017 10:36 AM (Nwg0u)

373 On one American flight I was on they asked if I would take a later flight. I said no. That was the end to that. Of course I used to be a frequent flyer too, so that might have had something to do with it.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2017 10:36 AM (Fmupd)

374 Keystone Cop #1, "Hey where did he go!"

Keystone Cop #2, "Thought you had him!"

KC1, "You were supposed to be holding him!"

Screaming from inside the airplane.

KC1 and KC2 in unison, "Uh oh...."

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 11, 2017 10:36 AM (9qw5X)

375 I'm still trying to figure out the whole baggage thing. Supposedly it was important that baggage not fly if the passenger didn't. this pre-dates 9/11. I think that it stemmed from the bombing that pretty much ruind Pan Am and fell on a town (Lockerbie).

If so, how is throwing a passenger off justified? Are they really going back into the cargo compartments and getting the baggage?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 10:37 AM (326rv)

376 That passenger lost any sympathy I might have had for him when he acted like a child and made them drag him off the plane. Had he walked off like a man and then dealt with the situation, I might be more on his side. Now, I just think "grow up."

Posted by: LASue at April 11, 2017 10:37 AM (CLKfs)

377 372 Wilson was a disgrace.

-
Who campaigned in 1916 on "He Kept Us Out of the War" and got us into the two months into his second term. But he was a Donk so it's all good.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 11, 2017 10:36 AM (Nwg0u)

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America seemed to be making some decent race relation progress until the Princeton University professor took over the federal government.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:37 AM (ELUpj)

378 Like that episode of Seinfeld where he made reservations with the rental car company but they had no car when he arrived.

Jerry: I don't understand. Do you have my reservation?

Rental Car Agent: We have your reservation, we just ran out of cars.

Jerry: But the reservation keeps the car here. That's why you have the reservation.

Rental Car Agent: I think I know why we have reservations.

Jerry: I don't think you do. You see, you know how to *take* the reservation, you just don't know how to *hold* the reservation. And that's really the most important part of the reservation: the holding. Anybody can just take them.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 10:38 AM (4AVeu)

379 That passenger lost any sympathy I might have had for him when he acted like a child and made them drag him off the plane. Had he walked off like a man and then dealt with the situation, I might be more on his side. Now, I just think "grow up."
Posted by: LASue at April 11, 2017 10:37 AM (CLKfs)

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This.

That man screams like a rabbit caught in a bear trap.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2017 10:38 AM (8XRCm)

380 376 That passenger lost any sympathy I might have had for him when he acted like a child and made them drag him off the plane. Had he walked off like a man and then dealt with the situation, I might be more on his side. Now, I just think "grow up."
Posted by: LASue at April 11, 2017 10:37 AM (CLKfs)

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I've seen this situation from the beginning as: Everyone in this story sucks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:38 AM (ELUpj)

381 What worries me most from this United debacle is that some idiot congressman is going to propose some idiot legislation that does something idiotic, like forbids by statute the airline practice of overbooking. Nobody will benefit and ticket prices will go up - and everyone will wonder why.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 11, 2017 10:32 AM (SzBdI)


Like so many other areas of "commerce," the answer is quite obvious: Remove any/all government involvement, and see what happens when market conditions are allowed to, you know, occur.

But no. The answer is more government, not less. So sure, the result will be worse, not better.

Funny how that happens.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:38 AM (TOk1P)

382 146 Resting Birch Face

That took a lot longer than I thought it would.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 11, 2017 10:39 AM (LeUrG)

383 Re: contract discussion above. For those interested, the relevant portions of the United Airlines Contract of Carriage would be:

Rule 5, Section G (subject to overbooking)

Rule 25, Part 4, Section a (compensation - involuntary)

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 10:39 AM (SsblQ)

384 Wilson was a disgrace.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 10:03 AM (4AVeu)

Sounds like Barky's brother.

Posted by: Killerdog at April 11, 2017 10:39 AM (1V8Oz)

385 I like this painting!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2017 10:39 AM (NOIQH)

386 The guy sitting at the table on the right wearing the wide brim hat looks like David Bowie's "Thin White Duke"

Posted by: JoeF. at April 11, 2017 10:39 AM (7uYFy)

387 How can they kick off a doctor? What are they going to do after people eat the fish?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 11, 2017 10:39 AM (oGRue)

388 You have a contract that comes with a whole bunch of strings that include being bumped to a different flight basically at the airlines discretion.



Well then, airlines delenda est.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:40 AM (EAA/O)

389 insomniac, but they then offered two vouchers for lattes!!

redeemable at 6 pm at night. and you have to use them in the next week or you lose them. and THEN Biff shows up to escort you out because the 5'11, 240 lb tattooed managerette starts saying she is feeling unsafe and harassed

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 11, 2017 10:40 AM (xpJ2/)

390 Jonah Goldberg sort of wrote a book on Wilson.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 11, 2017 10:40 AM (7uYFy)

391
You get to do shit like cancel a paid for flight, a reservation for dinner, a prepaid hotel room etc. to me ONCE.

After that it's fuck you forever.

I honor my word and my contracts.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 10:40 AM (S/hVx)

392 Good morning and welcome aboard United flight 860
with service to Louisville. Would you please turn your attention to the
flight attendants as they demonstrate the safety features of this
aircraft?



I SAID LOOK AT THE FUCKIN FLIGHT ATTENDANTS, ASSHOLES!

Posted by: Duke Lowell

==

You morons are absolutely killing it this morning!

And I need the laughs. Thank you.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 11, 2017 10:40 AM (5FLKM)

393 United could have avoided all of this if they'd installed ejection seats.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 11, 2017 10:41 AM (Nwg0u)

394 Oh hey United off the lows!!

Not many buyers though.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:41 AM (Jcg9Q)

395 Do you see the stooped woman behind the birch tree to the right of the pretty damsel? She is wearing traditional Swedish dress, which in Norwegian is called a bunad. My mind is blanking on the Swedish name for it. Anyway, my grandmother had one, very elaborately embroidered, red on black. My cousin took it when she died. Because she's ELCA and that's what they do.

Posted by: grammie winger - alleluia! at April 11, 2017 10:42 AM (dFi94)

396 So this will play out...Dr. ScreamsLikaAGurl gets a big settlement from the airline.

Copycat screamers start showing up around the country

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 11, 2017 10:42 AM (oGRue)

397 The seat cushion underneath you can be used as a flotation device in the event of a water landing. It can also be used as a shield for your face in the event of a re-accomodation.

Posted by: General Zod at April 11, 2017 10:42 AM (Bdeb0)

398 Because she's ELCA and that's what they do.

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*snort*

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2017 10:43 AM (8XRCm)

399 That's gold, Jerry! Comedy gold!

Posted by: kenny bania at April 11, 2017 10:43 AM (nlbfN)

400 The reason the airlines overbook is that a pretty well known number of people don't show for any given flight. Overbookings are based on these statistics. If they didn't there would be no such thing as flying standby.

My problem with this is that every single airline ticket I've ever purchased, I've had to pay up front, and are non-refundable. I mean, if I miss my flight, the airline doesn't lose any freaking money on that. Instead they sell the seat and make even MORE money. They're basically getting money for *nothing* by doing this.

Posted by: GMan at April 11, 2017 10:43 AM (sxq57)

401 Like so many other areas of "commerce," the answer is quite obvious: Remove any/all government involvement, and see what happens when market conditions are allowed to, you know, occur.

But no. The answer is more government, not less. So sure, the result will be worse, not better.

Funny how that happens.

Posted by: BurtTC


Like I said...do you want more regulation? Because this is how you get more regulation--good and hard.

The 500lb. bomb from the joke earlier would literally do less damage.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 10:43 AM (9krrF)

402 I wonder what provisions are in the contract you get when you purchase a ticket?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 11, 2017 10:43 AM (hLRSq)

403 You get to do shit like cancel a paid for flight, a reservation for dinner, a prepaid hotel room etc. to me ONCE.

After that it's f*ck you forever.

I honor my word and my contracts.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 10:40 AM (S/hVx)


Yeah, that's the other half of the problem. It's bad service because who cares, the government will bail us out.

It's also who cares, our customers don't seem to mind the f*cking we're giving them time after time after time.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:43 AM (TOk1P)

404 "So would air travel. Can you imagine how much a ticket would cost if you started mandating a $50,000 payoff?"

But the airline spokesman are all over the media this morning swearing that this almost NEVER happens, plus the airlines have it in their power to manage things better so that they can guarantee it never happens. So the actual cost to them will be pretty close to zero.

Plus, if they raise their prices too high in response they will simply drive passengers to carriers that can manage the situation better. Perhaps United needs to be driven into bankruptcy (again) in order to serve as an object lesson to others in the business. Nothing is permanent, in my life I've seen every airline that ever existed go out of existence and re-emerge as something else. So what? And if prices go up, then so what? That by itself will cut down the strain on the system by cutting down on tickets sold, and help to solve the overcrowding problems.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 11, 2017 10:43 AM (V2Yro)

405 >>I've seen this situation from the beginning as: Everyone in this story sucks.


Yup. Regardless of how the guy behaved, it is customer service 101 to not let things escalate to that point.

It starts off bad simply because air travel has become such a PITA since 9/11, with each new TSA prohibition and escalation of aggressive pat-downs. By the time you arrive at the gate you're feeling hassled. Add to that any poor treatment/pricing practices by the airline and weirdness from other passengers. Then you're packed into a cramped seat. I hate flying now, hate the whole demeaning experience.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2017 10:43 AM (NOIQH)

406
366 >>The entire problem would vanish overnight.

So would air travel. Can you imagine how much a ticket would cost if you started mandating a $50,000 payoff?

The reason the airlines overbook is that a pretty well known number of people don't show for any given flight. Overbookings are based on these statistics. If they didn't there would be no such thing as flying standby.

But like any statistical model, sometimes everyone shows up and then comes the bumping game. It sucks and obviously United needs a better plan but if they change to a fully guaranteed ticket model with huge payouts somebody is going to pay for it and it is not going to be the airlines.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 10:35 AM (/tuJf)


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$50,000 is a number pulled out of a commenter's ass. Perhaps an upgrade to business class on a later flight would be more in line with what the airlines could actually do. Or maybe a credit back to the bumped passenger making their ticket half priced. There's all sorts of incentives airlines could use.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2017 10:44 AM (Fmupd)

407 It would also be helpful to work out the overbooking BEFORE you let the passengers board the plane.

Me/Dad/Sis got bumped just like that when trying to fly to Dublin for vacation tour of Ireland.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 11, 2017 10:44 AM (oGRue)

408 They're basically getting money for *nothing* by doing this.

Posted by: GMan at April 11, 2017 10:43 AM (sxq57)
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And the chips aren't for free

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 10:45 AM (SsblQ)

409 407 It would also be helpful to work out the overbooking BEFORE you let the passengers board the plane.

Me/Dad/Sis got bumped just like that when trying to fly to Dublin for vacation tour of Ireland.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 11, 2017 10:44 AM (oGRue)

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You should have screamed and refused to de-plane.

Then you'd be internet famous.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:45 AM (ELUpj)

410 They're basically getting money for *nothing* by doing this.

Posted by: GMan at April 11, 2017 10:43 AM (sxq57)
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And the chips aren't for free
Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 10:45 AM (SsblQ)

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I want my...

I want my...

I want my ONT.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2017 10:45 AM (8XRCm)

411 Any airline accident starts with just one initial and most times minor event. But the same accident usually can be stopped down the causation chain by sensible action before the resulting smoking crater.

Same here.
If United had realized they needed to get a crew somewhere else, that crew would have had priority. And would have been the first to be seated after passengers gave up seats.

But that didn't happen and well other United employees acted stupidly.

And as AlextheChick has pointed out there could have been other consequences. IIRC the cockpit door in an airliner remains open until just before the jet is pushed back. The doctor in his anger could have started clocking pilots, crew, other parties, and messing up the instruments.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 11, 2017 10:45 AM (9qw5X)

412 375
I'm still trying to figure out the whole baggage thing. Supposedly it
was important that baggage not fly if the passenger didn't. this
pre-dates 9/11. I think that it stemmed from the bombing that pretty
much ruind Pan Am and fell on a town (Lockerbie).



If so, how is throwing a passenger off justified? Are they really
going back into the cargo compartments and getting the baggage?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 10:37 AM (326rv)

they put baggage on all different carriers.....so you may be flying on American but your bag may go on a different flight with a different airline.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (0O7c5)

413 Jonah Goldberg sort of wrote a book on Wilson.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 11, 2017 10:40 AM (7uYFy)


Yes. And kudos to him (and also to Dinesh D'Souza), for digging up unsavory aspects of the American historical record that the Democrats would like to keep buried.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (SzBdI)

414 397
The seat cushion underneath you can be used as a flotation device in the
event of a water landing. It can also be used as a shield for your face
in the event of a re-accomodation.


Posted by: General Zod at April 11, 2017 10:42 AM (Bdeb0)

Heh. Good one.

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (Fb9aZ)

415 We just had security forcibly remove an overbooked patient from the waiting room in the clinic here. He eluded their grasp in the hallway and came running back into the waiting room crying, screaming, kicking and flailing like a two-year-old...






...oh, wait a second. He is a two-year-old. Never mind.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (lHb9q)

416 Like so many other areas of "commerce," the answer is quite obvious: Remove any/all government involvement, and see what happens when market conditions are allowed to, you know, occur.

But no. The answer is more government, not less. So sure, the result will be worse, not better.

Funny how that happens.

Posted by: BurtTC

Like I said...do you want more regulation? Because this is how you get more regulation--good and hard.

The 500lb. bomb from the joke earlier would literally do less damage.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 10:43 AM (9krrF)


Let it burn.

Kill the airlines. Dead.

Then maybe we'll get our long-promised individual jet packs.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (TOk1P)

417 I wonder what provisions are in the contract you get when you purchase a ticket?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH



Well, as everyone has said, "gimme your money, drop trou, and bend over".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (EAA/O)

418 also they did their math on overlooking and all was peachy until they had to bump a SECOND batch of suckers I mean, passengers.

prior planning prevents piss poor performance.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (xpJ2/)

419 Is this place anywhere near Dallas?
Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (Jcg9Q)

No, you'll eat your breakfast as a light snow falls gently on your table.

That's the way we do it in Michigan.

Posted by: jwest at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (Zs4uk)

420 That passenger lost any sympathy I might have had for him when he acted like a child and made them drag him off the plane. Had he walked off like a man and then dealt with the situation, I might be more on his side. Now, I just think "grow up."
Posted by: LASue

Then we would never know his story, the airline would have ignored him, and his patients would all be scrambling to reschedule their lives. I'm disgusted no one else stood up. They sat there like sheep while he was assured and dragged off. It was like a plane full of Europeans instead of Americans.

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (zZb/S)

421 I'm sure United sucks but the roughed up passenger give off a strong "THATS DR AMY BISHOP" vibe to me. Personally, if I were a patient in whatever hospital or clinic he works at, I'd be happy to have the fill in instead.

I want a Dr who reacts well under stress, books another flight or even hires Uber to drive to wherever and then gets his lawyer golf buddy to draft a letter to United for extra dough, not a whiny bitch who falls apart when circumstances mess up his plans.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 11, 2017 10:47 AM (8qFZP)

422 Wilson was a disgrace.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 10:03 AM (4AVeu)

Sounds like Barky's brother.

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A sanctimonious narcissist who had the completely unjustified belief that he had the ability and the right to save the world by imposing his will on it. So, yeah.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 11, 2017 10:47 AM (Nwg0u)

423 So this will play out...Dr. ScreamsLikaAGurl gets a big settlement from the airline.

Should have been keelhauled.

Posted by: Capt Bleigh United Airlines director of Cust Relations at April 11, 2017 10:47 AM (326rv)

424 Yay grammie, you're here!

And OMuse, we watched the end of that movie last night. You wouldn't be disappointed.

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2017 10:47 AM (sBOL1)

425 Lately it seems like I manage to get here and comment about the time the art thread is superseded by the Ewok's arising.

Kind of a morning-exclusive willowing thing?

If the EMT is posted at 6am EDST, that's 4am on my mantle clock (CST) - and I haven't quite been able to get my schedule back to getting up that early.

Now, if Ace were to move to the Left Coast....

Gooooood Morning, Graybox, Peruvia!

Posted by: mindful webworker - doing due duty at April 11, 2017 10:47 AM (DKgtk)

426 $50,000 is a number pulled out of a commenter's ass. Perhaps an upgrade to business class on a later flight would be more in line with what the airlines could actually do. Or maybe a credit back to the bumped passenger making their ticket half priced. There's all sorts of incentives airlines could use.
Posted by: Soona

blow jobs are cheaper

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 11, 2017 10:47 AM (FZYNt)

427 422 A sanctimonious narcissist who had the completely unjustified belief that he had the ability and the right to save the world by imposing his will on it. So, yeah.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 11, 2017 10:47 AM (Nwg0u)

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"Good thing no one who disagrees with me will ever have the power that I bestow upon myself. Wait...elections? What are those?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:48 AM (ELUpj)

428 Assured = assulted

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2017 10:48 AM (zZb/S)

429

Let it burn.

Kill the airlines. Dead.

Then maybe we'll get our long-promised individual jet packs.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (TOk1P)

I can see a lot of people slamming into a mountain on the way to Vegas that way.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at April 11, 2017 10:48 AM (RD7QR)

430 what happened to the other three?

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 10:48 AM (0O7c5)

431 We just had security forcibly remove an overbooked patient from the waiting room in the clinic here. He eluded their grasp in the hallway and came running back into the waiting room crying, screaming, kicking and flailing like a two-year-old...


...oh, wait a second. He is a two-year-old. Never mind.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (lHb9q)


One of my personal favorite running jokes (even if no one else thinks it's funny, I crack me up every time), is when I'm in public and some kid starts screaming and wailing...

I'll turn my head in the direction of the screams, turn back and rather matter-of-factly state: "What a baby."

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:49 AM (TOk1P)

432 I wonder what provisions are in the contract you get when you purchase a ticket?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH



Well, as everyone has said, "gimme your money, drop trou, and bend over".

posted by rickb223
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Written in .00003 point Times New Roman font on the part of the ticket that you just handed to the nice lady on the jetway.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 11, 2017 10:49 AM (5FLKM)

433 Oh, look.

The have Chinese "take-out" on United.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 10:49 AM (4AVeu)

434 Any airline accident starts with just one initial and most times minor event. But the same accident usually can be stopped down the causation chain by sensible action before the resulting smoking crater.

Same here.
If United had realized they needed to get a crew somewhere else, that crew would have had priority. And would have been the first to be seated after passengers gave up seats.




Why not charter a cessna?
They are in the airplane business. They don't have small jets for this regular occurrence?
There was no other earthly way to get that crew there by the next morning?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:49 AM (EAA/O)

435 Let it burn.



Kill the airlines. Dead.



Then maybe we'll get our long-promised individual jet packs.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (TOk1P)



I can see a lot of people slamming into a mountain on the way to Vegas that way.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at April 11, 2017 10:48 AM (RD7QR)

seriously.....people can't drive and were going to let them fly?

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 10:49 AM (0O7c5)

436 Yay grammie, you're here!





Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2017 10:47 AM (sBOL1)
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Yes - thanks for alerting me! Tuesdays I get the kiddoes off to school. I had just dumped Number 3 and saw your email. Very nice painting. CBD is now my new secret crush. Besides Anthony Rizzo.

Posted by: grammie winger - alleluia! at April 11, 2017 10:50 AM (dFi94)

437 They've actually got a legal problem with those ticket contracts, that no one challenges because the cost of a ticket is far too low to justify a $500,000 in legal expenses appeals court case.

BUT there is plenty of legal precedent to the effect that if the participants in a contract are vastly unequal in bargaining power, to the point that the weaker party had no effective bargaining power and no true choice as to terms (ie, someone traveling due to a family emergency who had only 1 flight available), then as a position of equity, that person could be found to not be legally bound by unreasonable contract terms that were imposed on him or her by the party which had a monopoly on the bargaining power in the contract. (This would not apply to a ticket to say, a sports event, because it is hard to posit a circumstance in which someone would HAVE to go to a ball game)

It would depend on the judge and the court, but some cases have been won on that reasoning. ESPECIALLY if the plaintiff can get the question in front of a jury.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 11, 2017 10:50 AM (V2Yro)

438 Let it burn.

Kill the airlines. Dead.

Then maybe we'll get our long-promised individual jet packs.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (TOk1P)

I can see a lot of people slamming into a mountain on the way to Vegas that way.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at April 11, 2017 10:48 AM (RD7QR)


Other than debris cleanup, I'm not seeing the downside here.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:50 AM (TOk1P)

439 Princess Leia is tied to a tree!

Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 11, 2017 10:50 AM (QQ+il)

440 Assured = assulted
Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2017 10:48 AM (zZb/S)

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He can play the honky tonk like anything...
Saving it up for Friday night

With the assulted
withe the assulteds of swing....



*continuing with the Dire Straights meme here...

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2017 10:50 AM (8XRCm)

441 Like so many other areas of "commerce," the answer is quite obvious: Remove any/all government involvement, and see what happens when market conditions are allowed to, you know, occur.
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Remove all government funding for airports and sell them all to George Soros, the Koch Brothers (TM), Warren Buffett, and Trump/Kushner!

Success!

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 10:50 AM (SsblQ)

442 Yeah...flying cars would be the worst thing ever.

Like giving monkeys flamethrowers.

Posted by: eleven at April 11, 2017 10:50 AM (qUNWi)

443 The have Chinese "take-out" on United.
But can you buy ammo nearby?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 10:51 AM (nlbfN)

444 It's almost like the good Dr. Faceplant was trying to light his underwear on fire with a match or something.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 11, 2017 10:51 AM (57R5r)

445 Oh, look.

The have Chinese "take-out" on United.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 10:49 AM (4AVeu)
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I shouldn't laugh at this, I really really shouldn't.

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2017 10:51 AM (0I1TG)

446 I would have stood firm and refused to allow them to take the good doctor off the plane.

Posted by: Macho Macho Man at April 11, 2017 10:51 AM (FqgrG)

447 seriously.....people can't drive and were going to let them fly?

That gene pool's not going to clean itself.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 11, 2017 10:51 AM (oVJmc)

448 >>>I'm disgusted no one else stood up. They sat there like sheep while he was assured and dragged off. It was like a plane full of Europeans instead of Americans.

Hey I pulled my foot out of the aisle!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 11, 2017 10:52 AM (N1U8L)

449 435 Let it burn.



Kill the airlines. Dead.



Then maybe we'll get our long-promised individual jet packs.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (TOk1P)



I can see a lot of people slamming into a mountain on the way to Vegas that way.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at April 11, 2017 10:48 AM (RD7QR)

seriously.....people can't drive and were going to let them fly?
Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 10:49 AM (0O7c5)

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The current model sucks, but initial investment into the game is so high, and then regulation on how to operate is so onerous that it's hard to do anything differently.

A collapse of the passenger airline industry would cause a lot of problems in the short term, but it could allow for enough space for new ways of thinking about how to deliver people from one place to another through the air.

If I were in Congress, a practical solution could be some kind of incentive for a new model of air travel that could be implemented on a trial basis. I think Congress did something similar with space travel.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:52 AM (ELUpj)

450 So this will play out...Dr. ScreamsLikaAGurl gets a big settlement from the airline.

Should have been keelhauled.

Posted by: Capt Bleigh United Airlines director of Cust Relations at April 11, 2017 10:47 AM (326rv)


He was aislehauled. That nubby carpeting probably gave him one hack of a rugburn.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 11, 2017 10:52 AM (hLRSq)

451 Then we would never know his story, the airline would have ignored him, and his patients would all be scrambling to reschedule their lives. I'm disgusted no one else stood up. They sat there like sheep while he was assured and dragged off. It was like a plane full of Europeans instead of Americans.
Posted by: Jean

Remember what mark Steyn said. Everyone was told to be docile and cooperate. People in school shootings are STILL being told this. The first two flights on 9/11 sat in their seats as they were flown into buildings. One resisted, and that was the only one that failed to reach a target.

And in doing so, they violated every rule that airlines and government and conventional wisdom had set. After that, the bombing attempts were not stopped by government, the TSA or the airlines. People mobbed the shoe bomber and the panty raider.

Someone said it here yesterday. Some perv in the TSA openly treated someone like meat. Six months later, some meaningless letter of 'apology' from the TSA.

And what airline would have treated a mohammadan this way?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 10:52 AM (326rv)

452 Grammie, don't forget about Mike Pence!

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2017 10:52 AM (0I1TG)

453 Comedian Hasan Minhaj, Who Called Donald Trump White ISIS, to Headline WHCD

Because the MSM is no bias? LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 10:52 AM (KlI/a)

454 RE: UA overbooking: in their Contract of Carriage document, rule 25 addresses overbooking and selection of passengers for denial of boarding.

The way that I read the rule, it seems to me that once you've been issued a boarding pass and have a seat on the plane, only the people who are awaiting seat assignments are subject to this policy.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 11, 2017 10:53 AM (VRsLi)

455 seriously.....people can't drive and were going to let them fly?

Posted by: phoenixgirl...


Otherwise known as (a) Why Cavil Is Against Flying Cars and (b) Why We Can't Have Nice Things.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 10:53 AM (9krrF)

456 The contract provisions are clear, they had no right to remove him. And, misrepresented his conduct to the police.

And, no matter how good his golf buddy lawyer is - he wouldn't have gotten more than 1350$ had he gotten off that plane. Which doesn't even begin to cover the costs involved with missing a day's work.

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2017 10:53 AM (zZb/S)

457
Then we would never know his story, the airline would have ignored him, and his patients would all be scrambling to reschedule their lives. I'm disgusted no one else stood up. They sat there like sheep while he was assured and dragged off. It was like a plane full of Europeans instead of Americans.

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OH YEAH!!!!

PREACH IT SISTAH....... SHOW THE PIGS WHASSUP!!!!

Posted by: BLM at April 11, 2017 10:53 AM (8XRCm)

458 That passenger lost any sympathy I might have had for him when he acted like a child and made them drag him off the plane. Had he walked off like a man and then dealt with the situation, I might be more on his side. Now, I just think "grow up."
Posted by: LASue

Then we would never know his story, the airline would have ignored him, and his patients would all be scrambling to reschedule their lives. I'm disgusted no one else stood up. They sat there like sheep while he was assured and dragged off. It was like a plane full of Europeans instead of Americans.

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (zZb/S)


In Russia, the cliche is that the KGB would drag people out in the middle of the night, never to be heard from again.

But that wasn't literally true. Often they were dragged out in broad daylight.

Why? Because who was going to protest?

You? What about you?

No, good comrades, go back to your hovels. This is not your concern. Lest you give us a reason to drag YOU out too.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:53 AM (TOk1P)

459 Supersonic trebuchet.

My next big idea.

Posted by: eleven at April 11, 2017 10:53 AM (qUNWi)

460 David Dao, the doctor removed from the United flight has an interesting back story. I'm thinking he may not want any more public interest in his ordeal.

He's led a sordid life.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at April 11, 2017 10:54 AM (jAZR9)

461 $50,000 is a number pulled out of a commenter's ass. Perhaps an upgrade to business class on a later flight would be more in line with what the airlines could actually do. Or maybe a credit back to the bumped passenger making their ticket half priced. There's all sorts of incentives airlines could use.
Posted by: Soona

blow jobs are cheaper
Posted by: Rick in SK



If they must be given by the CEO, that shit'd stop toot suite.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:54 AM (EAA/O)

462 Southwest Airlines was the most fun even though it's no frills. On one flight there was a high school cheerleader flying who asked if she could sell fundraiser candy onboard. Flight attendant says sure but you have to do some cheers first. She did and everyone had fun. On another flight just before landing the PA came on and to the tune of Rawhide a guy starts singing, "Landing, landing, landing. Soon we will be landing. If you are still standing... You'll fly!"

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at April 11, 2017 10:54 AM (VZA0K)

463 >>One of my personal favorite running jokes (even if
no one else thinks it's funny, I crack me up every time), is when I'm
in public and some kid starts screaming and wailing...
I'll turn my head in the direction of the screams, turn back and rather matter-of-factly state: "What a baby." Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:49 AM (TOk1P)

Huh. I'll turn my head in the direction of the screams, cock it with insectile curiosity, and eat the child's face.

Posted by: Half-Man, Half-Mantis at April 11, 2017 10:55 AM (Bdeb0)

464 Modern Air travel is why the American love of the car can never be allowed to go away. I hate flying. Even if you do not have a 'bad experience' the experience is bad. Trapped, packed in. The TSA.

Meanwhile the car, even though it takes longer is freedom. Drive how you want (as long as it does not hurt anyone.) Listen to what you want. Even better: you get to choose who sits next to you.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 11, 2017 10:55 AM (+c7tK)

465 Sounds like someone let Harrison Ford back in the cockpit.

Small plane makes emergency landing on I-295 in Maine.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at April 11, 2017 10:55 AM (WuRdh)

466 I saw White ISIS open for Blue Rodeo in '87 at Maple Leaf Gardens. I blame Reagan for Iraq.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 10:55 AM (nlbfN)

467
Misspell "Colombian" again and Mrs. Redux will give you a "Colombian necktie."

Maybe he's talking about coffee from Columbus, Ohio.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 10:55 AM (IqV8l)

468 that shit'd stop toot suite.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:54 AM (EAA/O)

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Shit.

Now we're going to get a 50000 midday thread from Ace about us knuckledraggers not using foreign words right.

Way to go pal.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2017 10:56 AM (8XRCm)

469 Dr. David Dao, 69, who was captured in a now viral video being forcibly dragged off the Louisville, Ky-bound flight at Chicago OHare Airport on Sunday, was working as a doctor specializing in pulmonary disease in Elizabethtown when he was convicted of trading prescription drugs for sex favors.

Ah so who amongst us has not done that? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 10:56 AM (KlI/a)

470

Electric. Passenger. Drone.

http://tinyurl.com/zqacuvo
http://tinyurl.com/n8cs6ek

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 11, 2017 10:56 AM (5FLKM)

471 Finally a Swede to be proud of...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 11, 2017 10:56 AM (O2RFr)

472 Grammie, don't forget about Mike Pence!



Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2017 10:52 AM (0I1TG)
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Oh yes! But his wife would have to come along on any secret date. I'm sure she's a lovely woman, but - awkward.

Posted by: grammie winger - alleluia! at April 11, 2017 10:56 AM (dFi94)

473 >>Meanwhile the car, even though it takes longer is
freedom. Drive how you want (as long as it does not hurt anyone.) Listen
to what you want. Even better: you get to choose who sits next to you. Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 11, 2017 10:55 AM (+c7tK)

Also, the drinks are a lot cheaper.

Posted by: General Zod at April 11, 2017 10:56 AM (Bdeb0)

474 Any airline accident starts with just one initial and most times minor event. But the same accident usually can be stopped down the causation chain by sensible action before the resulting smoking crater.

Same here.
If United had realized they needed to get a crew somewhere else, that crew would have had priority. And would have been the first to be seated after passengers gave up seats.



The key is to undertake the whole 'giving up seats' BEFORE filling the plane. Once you fill the beast, and you belatedly realize a need, real or imagined, then YOU deal with it, not passengers with stowed baggage.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 10:56 AM (326rv)

475 Is this place anywhere near Dallas?
Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (Jcg9Q)

No, you'll eat your breakfast as a light snow falls gently on your table.

That's the way we do it in Michigan.

Posted by: jwest at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (Zs4uk)

That might work too. What part of Michigan?

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:56 AM (Jcg9Q)

476 469 Dr. David Dao, 69, who was captured in a now viral video being forcibly dragged off the Louisville, Ky-bound flight at Chicago OHare Airport on Sunday, was working as a doctor specializing in pulmonary disease in Elizabethtown when he was convicted of trading prescription drugs for sex favors.

Ah so who amongst us has not done that? LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 10:56 AM (KlI/a)

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And he was *this close* to being as regular a guest on MSNBC as Wendy Davis talking about the evils of America and Donald Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:57 AM (ELUpj)

477 It seems to me a good policy would be to pick up any immediate expenses of the bumped passenger plus free standby flights as often as the passenger wishes wherever the passenger wishes for one year from the date of the bump. That wouldn't be ruinous to the airline but would provide incentive to passengers to volunteer and to airlines to avoid bumping.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 11, 2017 10:57 AM (Nwg0u)

478 Right, he's past rule 25 and onto Rule 21.

And, before anyone says Federal law and flight crew ... Door wasn't closed, this was all ground folks working for customer service not flight crew. They didn't even ask the pilot to come back and help. You have no duty to crawl before the gate agents for safety and security like the flight crew. That's a whole ly different body of law going back to ship captain s.

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2017 10:57 AM (zZb/S)

479 Dao went to medical school in Vietnam in the 1970s before moving to the US,

Only the top Docs go there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 10:57 AM (KlI/a)

480 >>>Then we would never know his story

I think he would prefer that.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 11, 2017 10:57 AM (N1U8L)

481 103,
"Democrats and slavery. Just can't separate the two no matter how much we try."

The difference is that in Libya they've gone back to the original "private ownership" model which the Democrats were forced to drop here in the 1860s. They then embraced, a few years later, the collectivist "State ownership" model which they have advanced ever since.

Posted by: geoffb5 at April 11, 2017 10:57 AM (d3wbb)

482 ....was working as a doctor specializing in pulmonary disease in Elizabethtown when he was convicted of trading prescription drugs for sex favors.


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srsly?

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2017 10:58 AM (8XRCm)

483 "Then maybe we'll get our long-promised individual jet packs.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (TOk1P)

I can see a lot of people slamming into a mountain on the way to Vegas that way."

You know, as long as they were all coming from Los Angeles or San Fran I'd call that a win-win.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 11, 2017 10:58 AM (V2Yro)

484 Dr. David Dao, 69, who was captured in a now viral video being forcibly dragged off the Louisville, Ky-bound flight at Chicago OHare Airport on Sunday, was working as a doctor specializing in pulmonary disease in Elizabethtown when he was convicted of trading prescription drugs for sex favors.
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Hoo boy. No wonder he didn't want to miss his appointments.

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2017 10:58 AM (0I1TG)

485 Dr. David Dao, 69, who was captured in a now viral video being forcibly dragged off the Louisville, Ky-bound flight at Chicago OHare Airport on Sunday, was working as a doctor specializing in pulmonary disease in Elizabethtown when he was convicted of trading prescription drugs for sex favors.

Was that wrong...?


/Costanza

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 11, 2017 10:58 AM (oVJmc)

486 480 >>>Then we would never know his story

I think he would prefer that.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 11, 2017 10:57 AM (N1U8L)

=================

Just further proof that this guy is an idiot.

You have that on your record, and you make a huge scene in public in a viral video world?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 10:58 AM (ELUpj)

487 And what airline would have treated a mohammadan this way?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 10:52 AM (326rv)



Oh hush, you.

We have no room for logic when discussing these things.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 10:58 AM (TOk1P)

488 Finally a Swede to be proud of...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 11, 2017 10:56 AM (O2RFr)
==========================

In the Art Department, there's also John Bauer. He's most famous for his depictions of gnomes, trolls, tomte and fairies. I love him too. I got reprints of some of his paintings for my grandchildren's bedrooms.

Posted by: grammie winger - alleluia! at April 11, 2017 10:58 AM (dFi94)

489 476 469 Dr. David Dao, 69, who was captured in a now viral video being forcibly dragged off the Louisville, Ky-bound flight at Chicago OHare Airport on Sunday, was working as a doctor specializing in pulmonary disease in Elizabethtown when he was convicted of trading prescription drugs for sex favors.

So he was using said drugs.. Explains bizarre behavior...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 11, 2017 10:58 AM (O2RFr)

490 479 Dao went to medical school in Vietnam in the 1970s before moving to the US,

Only the top Docs go there
Posted by: Nevergiveup

what do you want to bet he fought alongside Hanoi Jane?

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 11, 2017 10:58 AM (FZYNt)

491 Yeah...flying cars would be the worst thing ever.

Like giving monkeys flamethrowers.
Posted by: eleven




Look on YouTube for the idiot warring tribesmen in Africa who give a fully automatic AK and a full mag to a chimp.

Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 10:58 AM (EAA/O)

492 >>Comedian Hasan Minhaj, Who Called Donald Trump White ISIS, to Headline WHCD. Because the MSM is no bias? LMAO


They were like kids, whining that they didn't want to attend if big, fat meanie Trump was there.....and now that Trump declined it will be a Trump Hatefest that will rival the Paul Wellstome Memorial. Her's hoping their masks are ripped off and more people see what progressive lil' a$$hats they are.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2017 10:59 AM (NOIQH)

493 More on Electric Passenger Drone

===

After setting a flight plan, passengers needed only to give two commands- "take off" and "land" - done with a single click on a tablet, the
company said.

...

A passenger would have no controls as a backup, he said. The company was
planning a remote control centre that would take over the vehicle in
the event of a problem and ensure it landed safely



Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 11, 2017 10:59 AM (5FLKM)

494 David Dao, the doctor who was dragged off the United flight, made a killing on the World Series of Poker while his medical license was suspended in Kentucky.
Dao joined the poker circuit in July 2006 one year after his medical license was suspended due to multiple convictions for illegally prescribing painkillers.
In 2009, he came in 2nd in a tournament and walked away with more than $117k.
His player profile shows total earnings of $234,664 in the WSOP.

Ya gotta know when to hold them and when to fold...Ya shoulda've folded on this one Doc? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 10:59 AM (KlI/a)

495 re: Woodrow Wilson

Despite that effort, whoever held power, whether a city government or some private gathering of the locals, they generally failed to keep the community together, They failed because they lost trust, They lost trust because they lied. (San Francisco was a rare exception; its leaders told the truth, and the city responded heroically.) And they lied for the war effort, for the propaganda machine that Wilson had created.

pg.396. The Great Influenza by John M. Barry. Penguin Books. 2005.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 11, 2017 10:59 AM (9qw5X)

496 It's always the old fat dudes and never the young attractive chicks who want to play with your stuff in exchange for drugs.

Life's not fair.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 11, 2017 11:00 AM (FqgrG)

497 Policy should have put the crew on a charter

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2017 11:00 AM (zZb/S)

498
Posted by: Soona

blow jobs are cheaper
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 11, 2017 10:47 AM (FZYNt)


--------------

Considering how many gay guys are flight attendants now, that's a risk I'd rather not take. And have you actually noticed how old the female attendants are anymore? It would be like getting some lip action from gramma.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2017 11:01 AM (Fmupd)

499 And uncommented on: Not one passenger changed their mind and volunteered to give up their seat when Dr rage like Amy Bishop announced "I am a DOCTOR and I HAVE to be at work the next day" Why is almost as if all the other passengers thought "screw you arrogant prick, my time is also valuable and the sympathy I would have for a Doc with extra difficulties setting up a sub evaporated when I heard the arrogance" This is a comment both on the Doctor and on the rise of selfishness among the general population.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 11, 2017 11:01 AM (8qFZP)

500 Ya gotta know when to hold them and when to fold...Ya shoulda've folded on this one Doc? LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 10:59 AM (KlI/a)

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Poker????

You bet I did.....but I had to give her bennies first.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2017 11:01 AM (8XRCm)

501 475,
"That might work too. What part of Michigan?"

Last Thursday here in SW MI.

Posted by: geoffb5 at April 11, 2017 11:01 AM (d3wbb)

502
In Russia, the cliche is that the KGB would drag people out in the middle of the night, never to be heard from again.

But that wasn't literally true. Often they were dragged out in broad daylight.


If one of your objectives is to terrorize the populace then it would be better to do it when others are watching.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 11:01 AM (IqV8l)

503 Policy should have put the crew on a charter
----------------------------
Or Greyhound

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 11:01 AM (SsblQ)

504 You have that on your record, and you make a huge scene in public in a viral video world? Posted by: TheJamesMadison
==

Worked for Bruce "Vehicular Manslaughter" Jenner.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 11, 2017 11:01 AM (5FLKM)

505 Scanning WaPo comments, looks like the United incident is all about good old American racism. Of course.

Weren't some other passengers asked to leave? What race were they?

Posted by: Ripley at April 11, 2017 11:02 AM (1BQGO)

506 >>"I am a DOCTOR and I HAVE to be at work the next
day" Posted by: PaleRider at April 11, 2017 11:01 AM (8qFZP)

"I am a PRAYING MANTIS and I HAVE to eat your head!"

Posted by: Half-Man, Half-Mantis at April 11, 2017 11:02 AM (Bdeb0)

507 502
In Russia, the cliche is that the KGB would drag people out in the middle of the night, never to be heard from again.

But that wasn't literally true. Often they were dragged out in broad daylight.

If one of your objectives is to terrorize the populace then it would be better to do it when others are watching.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 11:01 AM (IqV8l)

=================

Might be best to mix between the two tactics.

If you can be taken both in the day in front of everyone, and in the middle of the night when you're safe in your home, then you're never actually safe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (ELUpj)

508 Why is there a Teletubby in that Midwinter's Sacrifice painting? Shit is seriously weird.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (S2VsH)

509 For a couple of grand in bribes incentives, United could have avoided this whole thing.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (oVJmc)

510 >>Meanwhile the car, even though it takes longer is freedom. Drive how you
want (as long as it does not hurt anyone.) Listen to what you want.
Even better: you get to choose who sits next to you.

Yes! *fistbump*

I love my car, I love roadtrips.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (NOIQH)

511 Plenty o' blame to go around, airline sucks, manbaby Dr. sucks, security police suck. I find 3 equally suckie factors in this story. I don't fly much any more and I;m glad for it.

Posted by: USNtakim at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (hMqvx)

512 Re: Driving rather than flying; I've chosen that to go from East Texas to Phoenix, and that's 20 hours drive one way. Still a lot more pleasant than flying, especially when I took a break to see the Marfa Lights about halfway there. (yeah, that night they were easy to see, and they're kind of weird. they look like car headlights right up to where they split in two and go in different directions)

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (V2Yro)

513 504 You have that on your record, and you make a huge scene in public in a viral video world? Posted by: TheJamesMadison
==

Worked for Bruce "Vehicular Manslaughter" Jenner.
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 11, 2017 11:01 AM (5FLKM)

==================

Objection: Previously famous and transgender poster person.

Not applicable.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (ELUpj)

514 The last flight I was on, the flight attendant looked like Bea Arthur with a hangover. The other 'lady' thought she was God's gift to mankind.. Not to mention the male attendant acted like Milo on Prom Day.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (57R5r)

515 496 It's always the old fat dudes and never the young attractive chicks who want to play with your stuff in exchange for drugs.

Life's not fair.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 11, 2017 11:00 AM (FqgrG)

Funny how that works. It is like the attractive young ladies have something that makes the drugs superfluous...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 11, 2017 11:04 AM (+c7tK)

516 Three sucks don't make a flight.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 11:04 AM (nlbfN)

517 511 Plenty o' blame to go around, airline sucks, manbaby Dr. sucks, security police suck. I find 3 equally suckie factors in this story. I don't fly much any more and I;m glad for it.

Posted by: USNtakim at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (hMqvx)

=================

Because everyone sucks, I lost interest in the story yesterday.

And yet it continues...

Le sigh....

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:04 AM (ELUpj)

518 Dr. David Dao, 69, who was captured in a now viral video being forcibly dragged off the Louisville, Ky-bound flight at Chicago OHare Airport on Sunday, was working as a doctor specializing in pulmonary disease in Elizabethtown when he was convicted of trading prescription drugs for sex favors.

Ah so who amongst us has not done that? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 10:56 AM (KlI/a)

LET HE WHO HAS NOT SINNED...... oh never mind.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 11:04 AM (Jcg9Q)

519 ADHESION CONTRACTS AREN'T CONTRACTS!

*throws all the things all over the place*


Oh oh oh oh this is a pet peeve of mine. I know there's a not so polite fiction that adhesion contracts are totes contracts but they aren't which is why every term in an adhesion "contract" is interpreted against the drafter of it. What with it not being a contract. And the things. And the stuff.

Look, I'm spitting into the wind on this and I appreciate the necessity of uniformity and ease in dealing with masses of people who need a good/service and the needs of the provider to have standardized manners of provision of such items BUT IT'S STILL NOT A CONTRACT!

*holds breath and turns even bluer*

I'm right about this even if no one else ever in the history of ever agrees.

Why, yes, I have passionately held opinions about the wonkiest possible things, why do you ask?

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 11:05 AM (mf5HN)

520 Might be best to mix between the two tactics.

If you can be taken both in the day in front of everyone, and in the middle of the night when you're safe in your home, then you're never actually safe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (ELUpj)


Yes, the KGB was exquisitely talented at such things.

Although they say the East Germans were even more cunning and ruthless.

Imagine that... Germans.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 11:05 AM (TOk1P)

521 419 Is this place anywhere near Dallas?
Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 10:26 AM (Jcg9Q)

No, you'll eat your breakfast as a light snow falls gently on your table.

That's the way we do it in Michigan.
Posted by: jwest at April 11, 2017 10:46 AM (Zs4uk)

---

Ooooh, cold, wet snow falling on ya while you eat...

Pass.

Posted by: Texas at April 11, 2017 11:05 AM (sB1y1)

522 ecause everyone sucks, I lost interest in the story yesterday.

And yet it continues...

Le sigh....
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Ya gotta admit, the CEO breaking out a jackhammer after he hit bedrock is epic.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 11:05 AM (326rv)

523 482,
....was working as a doctor specializing in pulmonary disease in
Elizabethtown when he was convicted of trading prescription drugs for
sex favors.

He's still licensed?

Posted by: geoffb5 at April 11, 2017 11:06 AM (d3wbb)

524 487 And what airline would have treated a mohammadan this way?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 10:52 AM (326rv)


----------------

Excellent point.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2017 11:06 AM (Fmupd)

525 Might be best to mix between the two tactics.

If you can be taken both in the day in front of everyone, and in the middle of the night when you're safe in your home, then you're never actually safe.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (ELUpj)

The tactic at night also worked because of the type of dwelling most common Russians in cities lived in- Large apartment blocks. They would hear the footsteps in the middle of the night and hope the steps were going to their neighbor's door, not theirs. Dehumanizing and also serves to set you against those around you. Sets the populace adrift and means it is harder for the populace to be able to work together against you.

Communism is evil.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 11, 2017 11:06 AM (+c7tK)

526 519 I'm right about this even if no one else ever in the history of ever agrees.

Why, yes, I have passionately held opinions about the wonkiest possible things, why do you ask?

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 11:05 AM (mf5HN)

====================

Want to hear my opinions on Jesse Elliot's culpability in the damage to the USS Lawrence in the Battle of Lake Erie?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:06 AM (ELUpj)

527 better listen to Alex The Chick, she's pre-med.

Posted by: Otter at April 11, 2017 11:07 AM (NqyM4)

528 >>$50,000 is a number pulled out of a commenter's ass. Perhaps an upgrade to business class on a later flight would be more in line with what the airlines could actually do. Or maybe a credit back to the bumped passenger making their ticket half priced. There's all sorts of incentives airlines could use.

Sure, and as I said United could have handled this much better, obviously. But being bumped from a flight is not something new or something unique to United. It happens everyday to all airlines.

I agree it sucks and the airlines should do a much better job of compensating people but as with any free market issue, any additional costs will just be passed on to the consumer, in this case in the form of higher ticket prices.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 11:07 AM (/tuJf)

529 I had just dumped Number 3 and saw your email.
Posted by: grammie winger - alleluia! at April 11, 2017 10:50 AM (dFi94)


*considers asking about "dumping number 3"*

*decides not to ask*

Posted by: hogmartin at April 11, 2017 11:07 AM (8nWyX)

530 522
Ya gotta admit, the CEO breaking out a jackhammer after he hit bedrock is epic.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 11:05 AM (326rv)

====================

Eh...

CEOs behaving stupidly? Meh...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:07 AM (ELUpj)

531 Ya gotta admit, the CEO breaking out a jackhammer after he hit bedrock is epic.
Posted by: Blue Hen



Anyone know an old indian?
Once had an old indian tell me, "when you find yourself at the bottom of a hole, quit digging!"

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 11:08 AM (EAA/O)

532 addendum - East Texas to Phoenix road trip: 1100 miles by the odometer. Me and 2 friends did it once in just under 15 hours years ago, in my old Ford Torino with the 302. That was some real road trippin', good times.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 11, 2017 11:08 AM (V2Yro)

533 Meanwhile the car, even though it takes longer is freedom. Drive how you
want (as long as it does not hurt anyone.) Listen to what you want.
Even better: you get to choose who sits next to you.
--------------------
Yes! *fistbump*

I love my car, I love roadtrips.


Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (NOIQH)


Same here. As many times as I've driven west from here (St. Louis), I never get tired of seeing the mountains, the desert, the almost cartoon-like landscrape of Utah/Arizona.

Flying?

Oh hell no.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 11:08 AM (TOk1P)

534
Not to mention the male attendant acted like Milo on Prom Day.
Posted by: Under Fire


Whatever happened to him (Milo)?
He was in the news every day there for a while.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 11:08 AM (IqV8l)

535 >>>His player profile shows total earnings of $234,664 in the WSOP

I never play poker with my Vietnamese bruthas. They take that shit seriously. A game in a basement has more dough thrown around than a pizza parlor.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 11, 2017 11:08 AM (N1U8L)

536 531
Anyone know an old indian?
Once had an old indian tell me, "when you find yourself at the bottom of a hole, quit digging!"
Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 11:08 AM (EAA/O)

================

So...asking for a new shovel is not the right thing to do?

*takes notes*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:08 AM (ELUpj)

537 >> As many times as I've driven west from here (St. Louis), I never get
tired of seeing the mountains, the desert, the almost cartoon-like
landscrape of Utah/Arizona.

Oh man, saw the most perfect sunset evah last fall on a roadtrip down through New Mexico to an AZ border town. Just the most beautiful scenery!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2017 11:10 AM (NOIQH)

538 Hoping the bad PR and falling stock will level off soon.

Posted by: United at April 11, 2017 11:10 AM (bC5sA)

539 addendum - East Texas to Phoenix road trip: 1100 miles by the odometer. Me and 2 friends did it once in just under 15 hours years ago, in my old Ford Torino with the 302. That was some real road trippin', good times.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 11, 2017 11:08 AM (V2Yro)

Geez...it's 1187 from my place outside Ft. Worth to my daughter's place outside Detroit, and the best I've done is 18 hours.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 11:10 AM (Jcg9Q)

540 Just tell them you were hacked Dao!

Posted by: Carlos Danger at April 11, 2017 11:10 AM (FqgrG)

541 when I go to Houston, that's a drive. better than the pervs in Denver rummaging around my pants hoping to find a boner.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 11, 2017 11:10 AM (NqyM4)

542
Anyone know an old indian?

I know a little German.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 11:10 AM (IqV8l)

543 522
Ya gotta admit, the CEO breaking out a jackhammer after he hit bedrock is epic.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 11:05 AM (326rv)

====================

Eh...

CEOs behaving stupidly? Meh...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Don't be such a becky buzzkill.

God and everyone is watching the howling healer and this guy says, " I see that we drew blood; Procedure was followed."

I don't think that either the shoe bomber or Captain underroos looked this bad when they were hauled off.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 11:10 AM (326rv)

544 Anyone know an old indian?


Maybe, can you hum the first few lines?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (KlI/a)

545 blow jobs are cheaper

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 11, 2017 10:47 AM (FZYNt)


Seems like they used to be, but then came the diamonds, the mortgage, the car every few years, the restaurants, the kids, filling the refrigerator at home, the summer camps, the school trips, the kids' cars, insurance, college funds, etc., and then you realize you aren't getting blowjobs anymore.

And if you decide to go get one then that's when things REALLY get expensive.

Posted by: Married Men at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (fD1ST)

546 But being bumped from a flight is not something new or something unique to United. It happens everyday to all airlines.

Once they're seated ? Nope. Never seen that. I fly at least once a month. Sometimes every week.

There's a reason EVERY OTHER AIRLINE offers far more than the DOT minimum mandate to get people to volunteer.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (BEMJs)

547 Re: Driving rather than flying; I've chosen that to go from East Texas to Phoenix, and that's 20 hours drive one way. Still a lot more pleasant than flying, especially when I took a break to see the Marfa Lights about halfway there. (yeah, that night they were easy to see, and they're kind of weird. they look like car headlights right up to where they split in two and go in different directions)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 11, 2017 11:03 AM (V2Yro)



I'm fascinated by the Marfa Lights. As much as I want it to be aliens, because it's aliens, it's probably some type of natural phenomenon that we don't understand yet.

Which is even more interesting.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (mf5HN)

548 I think Milo is hunkered down writing his book.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (NqyM4)

549 It moved, Jerry. Ii moved!

Posted by: george costanza at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (nlbfN)

550 And OMuse, we watched the end of that movie last night. You wouldn't be disappointed.

Posted by: bluebell at April 11, 2017 10:47 AM (sBOL1)


Thanks, I'm thinking of watching it on Easter Sunday instead of the usual "Jesus of Nazareth."

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (SzBdI)

551 eleven #442: Yeah...flying cars would be the worst thing ever.
Like giving monkeys flamethrowers.


Yeah, but flying cars with flamethrowers, that would be great.

Posted by: mindful webworker - leaps into hot topic at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (DKgtk)

552 When we lived in Singapore and Hong Kong and flew back and forth from the US, United was THE worst airline to fly....especially with kids. Stewardesses were battleaxes bitching about everything. Not all of them but certainly the majority.


Singapore Airlines was THE absolute best. Friendly, efficient and the stewardesses were very friendly and helpful....especially with kids.


Cathay Pacific wasn't bad either.

Posted by: Tami at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (Enq6K)

553 He was in the news every day there for a while.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 11:08 AM

Turns out Milo (like nearly every gay man) is totes cool with the man/boy stuff. The conservative tent is only so large.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (S2VsH)

554 In book news, the latest novel in Elizabeth Moon's Vatta series was released today.

Cold Welcome.
https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Welcome-Vattas-Peace-Elizabeth/dp/1101887311

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (9qw5X)

555 White bitches...er... birches.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (NBHj5)

556 DAO!

Posted by: Homer Simpson at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (IqV8l)

557 Because everyone sucks, I lost interest in the story yesterday.

And yet it continues...

Le sigh....

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:04 AM (ELUpj)


Think of all of the opportunities this has provided people to take strong moral stances on involuntary bumping. Nobody died so it isn't as unseemly to do so.

The doctor and the airline have provided a true public service by their considerate actions here.

;p

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (hLRSq)

558 Geez...it's 1187 from my place outside Ft. Worth to my daughter's place outside Detroit, and the best I've done is 18 hours.
Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 11:10 AM (Jcg9Q)

As a kid every year we would drive from Jeffersonville, Indiana to El Paso, Texas straight through- 23 hours to visit my grandparents.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (+c7tK)

559 Anyone know an old indian?
Once had an old indian tell me, "when you find yourself at the bottom of a hole, quit digging!"
Posted by: rickb223

I must confess, the bit about the jackhammer belongs to iowahawk.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (326rv)

560 @ 519

ATC, what is an adhesion contract? Never heard the term before.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (S/hVx)

561 As many times as I've driven west from here (St. Louis), I never get
tired of seeing the mountains, the desert, the almost cartoon-like
landscrape of Utah/Arizona.
--------------------------------------
Oh man, saw the most perfect sunset evah last fall on a roadtrip down through New Mexico to an AZ border town. Just the most beautiful scenery!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2017 11:10 AM (NOIQH)


Going to make the trip again this year. Anyone who wants to come with me, book now.

I have room for three more people, so I'm taking reservations for five.

Pay now. No money back.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (TOk1P)

562 >>Singapore Airlines was THE absolute best. Friendly, efficient and the stewardesses were very friendly and helpful....especially with kids.

Singapore is right up there with my favorites along with Emirates.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (/tuJf)

563 Earlier in the year I was thinking about taking my vacation in Boston, only to be thwarted by the hotel prices. I couldn't find anything decent for less than $200 a night. It would be cheaper to take Amtrak back & forth every day than to stay in Boston for a week. Well I get travel perks at work, and just got an email about reduced hotel rates, so I checked out what they were offering - up to 10% off Boston hotels. Up to! What the hell is it with Boston & hotel prices?

Posted by: josephistan at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (7HtZB)

564 Want to hear my opinions on Jesse Elliot's culpability in the damage to the USS Lawrence in the Battle of Lake Erie?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:06 AM (ELUpj)



Yes, actually.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 11:13 AM (mf5HN)

565 ATC, what is an adhesion contract? Never heard the term before.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (S/hVx)

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Ever been in contract you were in and wanted to get out of but you were stuck???


There you go.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2017 11:13 AM (8XRCm)

566 s along with Emirates.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (/tuJf)

I tried to book a flight to Tel Aviv with them once and they hung up on me?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 11:13 AM (KlI/a)

567 I had the opposite happen to me. Me and my father were bumped up to first class because they oversold the regular seats we were originally booked for. Probably Air Canada as we were flying to Nova Scotia. (But not to see the total eclipse of the sun.)

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 11:14 AM (nlbfN)

568 Don't make me beat no stockholders.

Posted by: United at April 11, 2017 11:14 AM (oVJmc)

569 it smells like an english garden in there!

Posted by: jerry at April 11, 2017 11:14 AM (eQSM0)

570 better listen to Alex The Chick, she's pre-med.

Posted by: Otter at April 11, 2017 11:07 AM (NqyM4)


Of course she's crazy - she's a chick.

Oh, you wrote pre-med...

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 11, 2017 11:14 AM (hLRSq)

571 ATC, what is an adhesion contract? Never heard the term before.
Posted by: irongrampa

Shhh, she'll put it on the test!!

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 11:14 AM (326rv)

572 I think Milo is hunkered down writing his book.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 11, 2017 11:11 AM (NqyM4)


Funny how he started writing that book not long after the comments about diddling kids.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 11:14 AM (TOk1P)

573 LOL - Advice from a Singer/Actress:

"People have to start respecting the vagina. Until every man is fighting
for our rights, we should consider stopping having sex. I love men. But
evil men? I will not tolerate that. You don't deserve to be in my
presence. If you're going to own this world and this is how you're going
to rule this world, I am not going to contribute anymore until you
change it. We have to realize our power and our magic. Because I am all
about black-girl magic, even though I'm standing with all women. But
this year? This year, I am so carefree black girl."




Uh, OK. Stop having sex until *all* men behave?
You first!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2017 11:15 AM (NOIQH)

574 I'm fascinated by the Marfa Lights. As much as I want it to be aliens, because it's aliens, it's probably some type of natural phenomenon that we don't understand yet.

Which is even more interesting.
Posted by: alexthechick



Swamp gas.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 11:15 AM (EAA/O)

575 What's in the bag?

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at April 11, 2017 09:25 AM (Yi9Gb)

Before I enlargened it, I thought it was a bear cub....breakfast!

Posted by: BignJames at April 11, 2017 11:15 AM (x9c8r)

576 The NorKs should realize who they are messing with. We put 3 cop beat downs on 69 year old airline passengers. Does he think we will take any crap from him? DEFCON 1 baby, spool up the bombers!

Posted by: Uncle Si at April 11, 2017 11:15 AM (ZLmoR)

577 Adhesion Contract?

Okay who used the super glue on the paperclips in the Empress' office?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 11, 2017 11:15 AM (9qw5X)

578 Singapore is right up there with my favorites along with Emirates.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (/tuJf)

Their airport is the best too. Fast, efficient and friendly.

Posted by: Tami at April 11, 2017 11:15 AM (Enq6K)

579 Swamp gas.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 11:15 AM

Refracting the light of Venus.

Posted by: K at April 11, 2017 11:16 AM (S2VsH)

580 OK, who drug the guy off of the airplane, United people or the cops?

Posted by: Javems at April 11, 2017 11:16 AM (yOqwj)

581 >>I tried to book a flight to Tel Aviv with them once and they hung up on me?

They don't take dentists.

Seriously, I've never had anything but great experiences with them and they definitely get the concept of stewardess vs flight attendants.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 11:16 AM (/tuJf)

582 Don't make me beat no stockholders.

Posted by: United at April 11, 2017 11:14 AM (oVJmc)

Warren Buffet is your largest shareholder. He bought 24 million shares in the last quarter of 2016.

Just give him a Cherry Coke and Becky Quick and he's putty in your hands.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 11, 2017 11:16 AM (Jcg9Q)

583 I had the opposite happen to me. Me and my father were bumped up to first class because they oversold the regular seats we were originally booked for. Probably Air Canada as we were flying to Nova Scotia. (But not to see the total eclipse of the sun.)

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 11:14 AM (nlbfN)


Air Canada... actual, you know, planes? With engines and stuff?

Or do they just harness a gaggle of geese together?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 11:16 AM (TOk1P)

584 What the hell is it with Boston & hotel prices?
Posted by: josephistan

i'm guessing major city, big tourist destination AND major college town. And limited space. And they are in the Peoples Republic of Taxachootsis

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 11, 2017 11:16 AM (326rv)

585 563
Earlier in the year I was thinking about taking my vacation in Boston,
only to be thwarted by the hotel prices. I couldn't find anything decent
for less than $200 a night. It would be cheaper to take Amtrak back
forth every day than to stay in Boston for a week. Well I get
travel perks at work, and just got an email about reduced hotel rates,
so I checked out what they were offering - up to 10% off Boston hotels.
Up to! What the hell is it with Boston hotel prices?

Posted by: josephistan at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (7HtZB)

Come to Portsmouth, NH. 45-50 minute drive and you are in Boston. 30 minutes and you can pick up the Orange Line.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 11, 2017 11:17 AM (jxbfJ)

586 LOL - Advice from a Singer/Actress:

"People have to start respecting the vagina. Until every man is fighting for our rights, we should consider stopping having sex.




There's a reason it's called the world's oldest profession.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 11:17 AM (EAA/O)

587 576 The NorKs should realize who they are messing with. We put 3 cop beat downs on 69 year old airline passengers. Does he think we will take any crap from him? DEFCON 1 baby, spool up the bombers!
Posted by: Uncle Si at April 11, 2017 11:15 AM (ZLmoR)

Yeah he better watch out. We could have him fly United to Washington for talks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 11, 2017 11:17 AM (+c7tK)

588 My vagina talks to me and tells me secrets.

Posted by: Cate Blanchett at April 11, 2017 11:17 AM (FqgrG)

589 What the hell is it with Boston & hotel prices?

Supply and demand. Three or four years ago my ex-partner (who worked out of Boston) remarked to me that he knew developers who would kill for a piece of real estate in the city they could develop into a hotel. He may have used the word "literally" before the word "kill", and Boston being Boston he may actually have meant it.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 11, 2017 11:17 AM (kUmUV)

590 Cathay Pacific was very nice.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 11:17 AM (BEMJs)

591 Swamp gas.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 11:15 AM

Refracting the light of Venus.
Posted by: K



Off Uranus.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 11:17 AM (EAA/O)

592 ATC, what is an adhesion contract? Never heard the term before.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (S/hVx)

It is a 'take it or leave it' contract where the weaker party doesn't get an opportunity to bargain out any of the terms. The End User Licensing Agreements you see with computer programs are those. Onerous terms may be removed by courts, however such contracts are not necessarily considered unconscionable and voided in their entirety.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 11, 2017 11:18 AM (hLRSq)

593 Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 11:05 AM

LOL Contracts class would have been much more fun with you than with half of my section mates.

*pushes lemon squares though the USB port*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 11, 2017 11:18 AM (p+Wdc)

594 The NorKs should realize who they are messing with. We put 3 cop beat downs on 69 year old airline passengers. Does he think we will take any crap from him? DEFCON 1 baby, spool up the bombers!
Posted by: Uncle S

I got this


"Passengers AWAY!!!"

Posted by: United Airlines at April 11, 2017 11:18 AM (326rv)

595 Hey you ditzy Singer/Actress... are you Amy Schumer stealing your 'idea' from Lysistrata?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 11, 2017 11:18 AM (9qw5X)

596 >>Their airport is the best too. Fast, efficient and friendly.

And they have a nice outdoor waiting area past security so you aren't trapped with various smelly types. The importance of this can't be stressed enough when flying internationally.

#PersonalHygieneMatters

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 11:18 AM (/tuJf)

597 >>I tried to book a flight to Tel Aviv with them once and they hung up on me?

They don't take dentists.

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Have you seen "Marathon Man?"

Posted by: josephistan at April 11, 2017 11:18 AM (7HtZB)

598 Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2017 11:15 AM (NOIQH)


Just like every time a liberal "elite" says that "we must do something" what they really mean is "you idiot rubes need to do this, I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 11, 2017 11:19 AM (KUaJL)

599 Cathy Pacific sounds like an Asian pron name.

Posted by: josephistan at April 11, 2017 11:19 AM (7HtZB)

600 Josephsitan-Boston hotels--first we have the Marathon this week, then over the next few months, you are heading into prime graduation/wedding pricing, and then into summer tourist season, followed by the college kids coming back in September and Fall tourist season. It's never cheap here in Boston, even less so from May through October.

They are building hotels all over the place but it still isn't enough.

Posted by: Goldilocks at April 11, 2017 11:19 AM (zz1sH)

601 536 531
Anyone know an old indian?
Once had an old indian tell me, "when you find yourself at the bottom of a hole, quit digging!"
Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2017 11:08 AM (EAA/O)

================

So...asking for a new shovel is not the right thing to do?

*takes notes*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:08 AM (ELUpj)

Long in a Taos bar i had a big indian brave on the stool next to me turn and say 'you stole my land.'

I said. 'I don't even own a f*cking house.' The bartender saved me.

Posted by: Some moron at April 11, 2017 11:20 AM (iLoHX)

602 one good thing that has come from the mess with Iran and ISIS. the non Islamist and even some Islamist Sunni governments are quietly easing up on the Joo crap. I notice than when imams are spouting off they are doing it in Londonistan and Jakarta, not so much in the near East itself

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 11, 2017 11:20 AM (NqyM4)

603 My vulva is as smooth as a veal cutlet.

Posted by: Lana Kane at April 11, 2017 11:20 AM (FqgrG)

604 #PersonalHygieneMatters
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Welcome to Mumbai !

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 11:20 AM (SsblQ)

605 Best airport in the USA I've visited was Branson, MO. Maybe it's because it's a small private airport that allows one commercial airline (Southwest) to use it, but talk about no-stress travel! I could live in that airport.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at April 11, 2017 11:20 AM (S2VsH)

606 Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest

Standard form contracts are a source of many shenannigans. Some dude in Russia got payback for this a few years back when he changed the contract provisions for some account with a bank when he sent back the application...and the bank signed off without reading the changes.

Courts ruled the bank was stuck. Dude's suing the bank now for breach of the amended contract.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 11, 2017 11:20 AM (9krrF)

607 Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2017 11:15 AM

Zombie Aristophanes on Line 1....he wants his plot line back.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 11, 2017 11:21 AM (p+Wdc)

608 I have a chicken in my back yard.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2017 11:21 AM (Fmupd)

609 599 Cathy Pacific sounds like an Asian pron name.
Posted by: josephistan at April 11, 2017 11:19 AM (7HtZB)


Last time I flew with them ... half of the cabin crew were certainly qualified.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 11:21 AM (BEMJs)

610 527 better listen to Alex The Chick, she's pre-med.

----

If she needs meds, we can work out a trade...

Posted by: David Dao at April 11, 2017 11:21 AM (oGRue)

611 596 >>Their airport is the best too. Fast, efficient and friendly.

And they have a nice outdoor waiting area past security so you aren't trapped with various smelly types. The importance of this can't be stressed enough when flying internationally.

#PersonalHygieneMatters
Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 11:18 AM (/tuJf)

Kind of the opposite in Japanese airports. Their smoking rooms (with cigarette vending machines!) are like marinating in tobacco.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 11, 2017 11:21 AM (+c7tK)

612 Objection: Previously famous and transgender poster person.

Not applicable.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
===

Did Bruce have tits when he killed that person with his car? *





*filed under 'sentences I never thought that I would type'.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 11, 2017 11:22 AM (5FLKM)

613 Air Canada... actual, you know, planes? With engines and stuff?

Or do they just harness a gaggle of geese together?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 11:16 AM (TOk1P)


Do a search for 'Gimli Glider'. Air Canada plane runs out of fuel over Alberta because of wrong conversions due to a metric/imperial switch, the pilots manage to land an unpowered B767 with no injuries. Pretty impressive story.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 11, 2017 11:22 AM (8nWyX)

614 564 Want to hear my opinions on Jesse Elliot's culpability in the damage to the USS Lawrence in the Battle of Lake Erie?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:06 AM (ELUpj)


Yes, actually.
Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 11:13 AM (mf5HN)

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Jesse Elliott was derelict in his duty and probably wanted his commanding officer, Oliver Hazard Perry to die in the battle. Elliot obviously disobeyed clear orders.

The irony is, if Elliot had brought the Niagra into action when he should have, Perry probably would have lost the battle overall. After the Lawrence struck her colors, the British thought the battle was over. Battered, the British were possibly confused by the sudden movement of the Niagara, and the confusion actually led to the Detroit tangling itself in the sails of another ship, limiting its ability to turn and present a broadside to the fast coming Niagara, now commanded by Perry of course, which tore into the remains of the British fleet forcing them to strike their own colors.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:23 AM (ELUpj)

615 So, speaking of things that suck.

I watched Assassin's Creed last night. Well, some of it - couldn't make it through before my brain spontaneously lost consciousness in a bid to save my life from the plodding crapola that was that movie.

I'm a fan of the first game, a huge fan of the sequel, and the movie didn't take any of what made the games so cool.

Giant waste of talent, that movie was.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 11, 2017 11:23 AM (PFy0L)

616 The loneliest spot on US interstates I've seen is that stretch in between Van Horn and El Paso - 100 miles of absolutely nuttin'.
Getting a little more crowded in the last decade, but back in the 70's and 80's, that was an easy stretch of road to do in an hour, if you had the engine to do it. And after that, you only hit 3 towns before you're all the way through New Mexico. It's some pretty empty real estate down there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 11, 2017 11:23 AM (V2Yro)

617 ATC, what is an adhesion contract? Never heard the term before.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (S/hVx)



An adhesion contract is a contract drafted by one party, nearly always the seller, that sets out the terms of the contract that the purchaser must accept in order to complete the transaction. It's an adhesion contract because the purchase has no choice but to adhere to the terms dictated by the seller.

Super fast and dirty contract law:

OBLIGATORY I am not your lawyer this is for mouthing off on the internet purposes only.

A contract involves offer acceptance and consideration. The parties are assumed to be on equal footing in the negotiations and thus all terms are deemed to have been set by the meeting of the minds of the parties to the contract.

In an adhesion contract, there is offer acceptance and consideration but the parties are in such a different state of bargaining power that only one party sets the terms of the contract and that is presented on a take it or leave it proposition to the buyer. Think insurance. Think, yes, airline tickets. Think EULAs but those are a subset of their own special hell.

There's no negotiation. There's no discussion. There's no ability for the person who is paying the money to get concessions from the seller. You want homeowner's insurance? Sign here and pay me. You want to fly? Pay the money and you have no choice but to accept the terms. There's no drafting, there's just this is what it is take it or leave it.

Due to this unequal bargaining power, all terms of the contract are construed against the drafter in an attempt to level the playing field.

My position is that it's not actually a contract. I'm not sure what to call it, but there is no meeting of the minds on the terms. Now, again, the existence of adhesion contracts are an absolute necessity to insure the smooth running of commerce and daily life. It would be idiotic to negotiate every interaction individually. Economies of scale and what not. I'm not against standard forms and conditions on matters. That's comprehensible.

But it's not a contract. It's just not.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 11:23 AM (mf5HN)

618 Putin: Syria Chemical Attack Was False Flag, More Provocations Coming


hey that's funny, that's what the Dems are saying!!!

I want an investigation. Call out the FBI!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2017 11:24 AM (KlI/a)

619 Looked it up, airport security guy, who is now on leave. Not sure he has arrest powers or not, doubt it. Dude probably lost his temper. Nevertheless, I probably would have been tempted to help drag the guy off myself. You deal with situations as they are, not how you hope they would be.

Posted by: Javems at April 11, 2017 11:24 AM (yOqwj)

620 >>Just like every time a liberal "elite" says that "we must do something"
what they really mean is "you idiot rubes need to do this, I'm going to
keep doing what I'm doing."


I am particularly amused by actresses lecturing on things like equal pay and men being evil given that their chosen industry is and has always been misogynist and abusive of women. They honsetly believe the rest of us are surrounded by the same level of scumbags they are???

How about *you* get some new friends, some new employers before lecturing the rest of us about baaaaaad men. I like the men in my family, my job, etc. thankyouverymuch!!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 11, 2017 11:24 AM (NOIQH)

621 557
Think of all of the opportunities this has provided people to take strong moral stances on involuntary bumping. Nobody died so it isn't as unseemly to do so.

The doctor and the airline have provided a true public service by their considerate actions here.

;p
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 11, 2017 11:12 AM (hLRSq)

==============

You're right.

I take it all back.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 11, 2017 11:25 AM (ELUpj)

622 Air Canada... actual, you know, planes? With engines and stuff?

Or do they just harness a gaggle of geese together?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 11:16 AM (TOk1P)

Do a search for 'Gimli Glider'. Air Canada plane runs out of fuel over Alberta because of wrong conversions due to a metric/imperial switch, the pilots manage to land an unpowered B767 with no injuries. Pretty impressive story.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 11, 2017 11:22 AM (8nWyX)


No, not due to conversion confusion, it's because they tried to use maple syrup instead of fuel.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 11:25 AM (TOk1P)

623 My cat is chasing a chicken in my back yard.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2017 11:25 AM (Fmupd)

624 Posted by: hogmartin at April 11, 2017 11:22 AM (8nWyX)

They made a TV movie based on that incident. I still can't figure out what was more incompetent: the groundcrew only half-filling the plane, or a plane that didn't have a working fuel gauge... and everyone was COOL with that.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at April 11, 2017 11:25 AM (S2VsH)

625 Did Bruce have tits when he killed that person with his car? *

*filed under 'sentences I never thought that I would type'.
Posted by: Mortimer
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"he"?
The pronoun police have been alerted.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 11, 2017 11:25 AM (NBHj5)

626 Air Canada... actual, you know, planes? With engines and stuff?

Or do they just harness a gaggle of geese together?


If they can't find you handsome, they can at least find you handy.

Posted by: Red Green at April 11, 2017 11:25 AM (oVJmc)

627 No, not due to conversion confusion, it's because they tried to use maple syrup instead of fuel.
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Now that is sweet crude.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 11, 2017 11:25 AM (SsblQ)

628 534 Whatever happened to him(Milo)?

Stand up act in Branson? Catholic Seminary??

Posted by: Under Fire at April 11, 2017 11:26 AM (57R5r)

629 nood

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 11, 2017 11:26 AM (SzBdI)

630 But it's not a contract. It's just not.
Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 11:23 AM (mf5HN)

'Fair's got nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Unforgiven at April 11, 2017 11:26 AM (+c7tK)

631 The pronoun police have been alerted.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc
===

I hear that in PC Grammar Prison you get conjugation visits.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 11, 2017 11:28 AM (5FLKM)

632 623 My cat is chasing a chicken in my back yard.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2017 11:25 AM (Fmupd)


thanks fro adding some color to this thread.

Posted by: Some moron at April 11, 2017 11:29 AM (mBYZv)

633 But it's not a contract. It's just not.
Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 11, 2017 11:23 AM (mf5HN)


I really did see Living Colour open for The Rolling Stones at Cardinal Stadium in '89.

Got a contract high.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 11:31 AM (BEMJs)

634 Basic job skill requirements for a flight attendant:

1. Shove oversized carry-on luggage into the overhead rack (rather than tell the passenger that the carry-on luggage is too damned big.)

2. Do the 'seat belt/airmask/exits are located/seat cushion as a flotation in case of a water landing' routine.

3. Tell passengers to place small electronic devices into "airplane mode." On some flights, this is done with an automated message.

3. Push the beverage cart up and down the main aisle, making sure to hit every passenger. Collect cups and garbage from said passengers.

4. Tell passengers to buckle up and return your tray and seat to the original upright position prior to landing.

5. Hawk Airline credit card applications while in flight.

6. Say "Buh-bye" to all the passengers as they deplane.

Do that for 335 days out of a year and lose your sanity after about 7.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 11, 2017 11:31 AM (4AVeu)

635 597 >>I tried to book a flight to Tel Aviv with them once and they hung up on me?

They don't take dentists.
_____________________________

Because they're anti-dentites!

Posted by: Cosmo Kramer at April 11, 2017 11:34 AM (4AVeu)

636 The United Airlines episode is simply an illustration of what has happened in both business and to society at large.

First world problems. Airline travel is cheap enough that the majority of the masses can afford flights to wherever they want to go, further assisted by the travel point awards given by many credit cards. Flying has now become a "right" (like health insurance) in the minds of most Americans today.

So every airline books as many flights as is logistically possible(how many can take off from the airport within a timeframe, how many certified crews, pilots, etc, are available all factor into the logistics of that ) Flights are consistently full and overbooked as a way to squeeze every dollar out since competition requires discounting constantly.

When the least little thing screws it up, including suddenly needing to get a crew to another location because just one flight cancellation causes an entire cascade of problems, cancellations, etc. across the airline/airport, the airline has to rely on the graciousness of passengers to provide said seats. And since passengers now consider their flight as their 'right" , no matter what, no one wanted to give up their seat. Despite being offered a hotel and $800 in travel vouchers.

I realize that because everyone considers flying a right and schedule their trips to the exact limit of their own timing, spending a night in another city may not be worth the dollars, particularly since so many people are flying free or seriously discounted due to points, etc.

When Dr. Dumbass" why does he have a MD license" decided to make a huge scene about not giving up his seat, I'm actually delighted he got his sorry ass dragged off the plane. At what point do you take off into the air, with someone that beliigerant on board?

I know I'm in the minority, but I do not want to be on a plane with assholes like that. Could United have handled this better, sure, they could have gotten this problem handled at the gate before they seated the plane. There is no reason they couldn't have known prior to boarding that they absolutely needed four seats and had a full plane.

Everyone was at fault, but the temper tantrum fake doctor is no hero.

Posted by: Jen at April 11, 2017 11:43 AM (OBjuz)

637 @ 617

Thanks, ATC. Pretty lucid explanation.

I guess you could call that a onesided agreement, for lack of a better definition.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2017 11:50 AM (S/hVx)

638 Always feign deafness when they want to talk to you.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 11, 2017 11:52 AM (QQ+il)

639 The things that stick in my craw about United's "response" are:

(1) They created it by overbooking in the first place.

(2) They exacerbated the problem by loading passengers on the plane and then trying to sort the problem out, rather than at the gate.

(3) The need for the seats was created by their issues, for their convenience, not for other paying passengers or for safety.

(4) When you mess up, sometimes it can be inconvenient to make it right. There was a relatively easy way out for them - by raising the incentive to give up a seat. They failed to take it, resorting to trying to remedy the problem on the cheap.

(5) When the cheap solution didn't work, they resolved it by further inconveniencing the passengers.

(6) Their ultimate solution, force, resulted in an injured passenger.

They had many roads they could have taken that would have prevented this, and they made the wrong choice at each one.

I agree the guy did not cover himself in glory, but for most of us, flying is not pleasant. A change in plans like that would not be a minor hassle (note that people did not take United's "offer" of vouchers).

For all of us morons who own businesses, manage them, are in customer service, etc. - would you tolerate this at your business or run it that way?

And to make it a great grand finale, toss in the fallout of this being the type of thing that gets people clamoring for more regulations, more government intervention, more demagoguery by those who want the government to "just do something".

Well played, United. Don't come back crying when new regulations get slapped on you or someone gets a jackpot lawsuit award.

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Posted by: RM at April 11, 2017 11:57 AM (U3LtS)

640 In layman's terms, you can't contract away your liability.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 11, 2017 12:08 PM (014lE)

641 320 Any spelling eror can be attributed to the fact that I am now wearing glasses - really really cheap ones.
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER

No speling erors as far as I can see, Morty

Posted by: An American Commoner at April 11, 2017 12:27 PM (pxwEr)

642 I notice that in the painting the women on the left is scratching her back bear style.

Posted by: deepred at April 11, 2017 12:38 PM (8oULY)

643 He was in the news every day there for a while.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 11:08 AM

Turns out Milo (like nearly every gay man) is totes cool with the man/boy stuff. The conservative tent is only so large.


Posted by: Rusty Nail
****

Either I am missing your sarcasm or you swallowed the BS the LSM put out.
The group that went after Milo was a Soros group who deliberately twisted his words to make it look like he was ok with man/boy love when he has proven repeatedly he is not.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 11, 2017 12:40 PM (uhftQ)

644 ???

Posted by: Golfman at April 11, 2017 02:14 PM (0lTCU)

645 Midwinter Sacrifice is hideous.

Posted by: White Magic Woman at April 11, 2017 02:46 PM (SJ184)

646 Interesting to see an old-timey Swedish coffeepot in the painting. (The round-bottomed pot with three legs to the immediate right of the woman in white.) It looks like a branch was stuck into the handle to make it longer. Here's what they look like: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pin___.com/564x/f9/75/c9/f975c91d7a021a6b82cdee5cde6c584b.jpg

Posted by: bandarlog at April 11, 2017 03:12 PM (KKyU6)

647 Bourgeoisie outing while the world burns. No one is looking at another?

Posted by: V.I. Lenin at April 11, 2017 03:43 PM (dZGNV)

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