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Mid-Morning Open Thread
Saint Julian Murdering his Parents
Spinello Aretino
According to the account that was very popular in the Middle Ages, Julian was of noble birth and while hunting one day, was reproached by a hart for hunting him and told that he would one day kill his mother and father. He was richly rewarded for his services by a king and married a widow. While he was away his mother and father arrived at his castle seeking him; When his wife realized who they were, she put them up for the night in the master's bed room. When Julian returned unexpectedly later that night and saw a man and a woman in his bed, he suspected the worst and killed them both.[Hat tip: Misanthropic Humanitarian]
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: bluebell at April 07, 2017 09:40 AM (RZA9I)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 07, 2017 09:40 AM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 07, 2017 09:41 AM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2017 09:42 AM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 07, 2017 09:42 AM (l1pkh)
Posted by: Jack Sock at April 07, 2017 09:42 AM (bLhAC)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2017 09:43 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 09:43 AM (FZYNt)
Saint Julian had incredibly tiny feet.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 09:43 AM (8XRCm)
I misread that as "was reproached by a tart"--which, I guess, was the same way that Julian misread it
Posted by: m at April 07, 2017 09:43 AM (Gqgs8)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 07, 2017 09:43 AM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Parker at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (mZGw4)
Posted by: rickl at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (xjiRE)
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (tVWQB)
"Hey Xi, check this shit out."
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: The Little St Julian at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: M. Night Shamalamadingdong at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 09:43 AM (FZYNt)
Must be the wife. Silent type.
Posted by: m at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (Gqgs8)
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Or, it's easier to be made pope these days.
Posted by: mpthompson at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (b0njJ)
Dude must have had bad eyesight
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (FZYNt)
"Hey Xi, check this shit out."
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (kTF2Z)
He served chow mein and fried rice, right? Cooked by Martin Yan.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 07, 2017 09:45 AM (mbhDw)
"When his wife returned from church and he found he had killed his parents, he was overcome with remorse and fled the castle, resolved to do a fitting penance. He was joined by his wife and they built an inn for travelers near a wide river, and a hospital for the poor. He was forgiven for his crime when he gave help to a leper in his own bed; the leper turned out to be a messenger from God who had been sent to test him. "
And now you know the rest of the story
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 09:45 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Country Boy at April 07, 2017 09:45 AM (Jcg9Q)
Posted by: Jack Sock at April 07, 2017 09:45 AM (bLhAC)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2017 09:45 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 09:43 AM (FZYNt)
Must be the wife. Silent type.
Posted by: m at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (Gqgs
She never liked the in-laws anyway.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 07, 2017 09:45 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Max Power at April 07, 2017 09:45 AM (QCc6B)
Kill them!
Posted by: The Little St Julian at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (7ZVPa)
I liked the Bugs Bunny version better. "Tell me more about my eyes!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 07, 2017 09:46 AM (mbhDw)
Posted by: m
would be the 1st and last silent wife in recorded history
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 09:46 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: joncelli LaRouche at April 07, 2017 09:46 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 07, 2017 09:46 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (7ZVPa)
The other day I told you I had just been to the best interview I had ever been on.
I got an email today from the guy, and he says a few things, among them, that he will be sending an offer to me as soon as possible.
I am taking that as a positive!
Thank you for your prayers and good vibes, Horde.
Now, among the other things he mentioned in the email was funding which is due in soon, but no deal is done until the deal is done.
Also, I will say that the economy must be a LOT better. I am getting a LOT of traction right now and just seriously turned on the find a new job thing about 3 weeks ago.
Prayers and vibes to all others who are currently searching. Your day is coming.
Posted by: blaster at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (tewYv)
As for faith, that's a hard thing. I've been tested hardcore, and can't say I've always held fast...but I can at least say for myself I've found my way home eventually. And that's the point--no matter what happens in this life, my heart has a home and a guiding star. Nobody in this world can take that from me; I can only lose it if I refuse it. It's not an easy path, but in the end it's the one worth walking.
For those of you having doubts, make the effort. I think you'll find it's a better life if you do.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 07, 2017 09:40 AM (9krrF)
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Beautifully said, Brother Cavil. We are all tested from time to time. Some are tested harder than others. The tests are when we should turn towards God, rather than away.
Much easier said than done. I know that. But worth it to power through.
Posted by: bluebell at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (RZA9I)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (KUaJL)
Then I refresh the page to be sure, and, lo, no, it's the art report.
Well, at least I'm really early on the art report!
Mooorrrrrning, Glorious offspring of Big Dad!
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Not familiar with St Julian. Seems kind-of easily provoked, for a saint...
Posted by: mindful webworker - needs coffee at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (bF/TV)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (FqgrG)
Posted by: T at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (IKdzI)
Soooooooo....... guy has a conversation with a deer, kills his parents, and is made a saint.
Huh.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (57R5r)
Posted by: blaster at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (tewYv)
Great news blaster, congrats!
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
but then if it is the wife at the end of the bed then that defence won't stand up in court
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 07, 2017 09:48 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Max Power at April 07, 2017 09:48 AM (QCc6B)
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 07, 2017 09:48 AM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 07, 2017 09:48 AM (FqgrG)
Posted by: dantesed at April 07, 2017 09:48 AM (88xKn)
Posted by: t-bird at April 07, 2017 09:48 AM (2z74n)
"Three's Company, Four's a Crowd": Hilarity ensues when Julian returns home looking for his wife in his bed, but mistakenly thinks his wife is in bed with another man, so he kills them in the dark. Things really get silly when "The Saint" finds out who he really killed.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 07, 2017 09:49 AM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Goldilocks at April 07, 2017 09:49 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2017 09:49 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (KUaJL)
My dad snored like a woodchipper.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 07, 2017 09:49 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 07, 2017 09:49 AM (0O7c5)
Soooooooo....... guy has a conversation with a deer, kills his parents, and is made a saint.
Huh.
Posted by: fixerupper
I could totally see Tucker doing the interview and giving the "shocked face" look on this one
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 09:49 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 07, 2017 09:48 AM (FqgrG)
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Unpossible.
There are no guns in Sweden, its illegal.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 09:49 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Barack, nominated for Sainthood at April 07, 2017 09:50 AM (2z74n)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2017 09:49 AM (lwiT4)
St. Julian stabbing his parents to death?
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 07, 2017 09:50 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2017 09:50 AM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: Not Martin Luther at April 07, 2017 09:50 AM (tQSaB)
T.V. Guide macro: "hilarity ensues..."
Posted by: General Zod at April 07, 2017 09:50 AM (Bdeb0)
There are no guns in Sweden, its illegal.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 09:49 AM (8XRCm)
They came across the border from Gary. Damn Hoosiers.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 07, 2017 09:50 AM (fiGNd)
Posted by: The Hart at April 07, 2017 09:51 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Goldilocks at April 07, 2017 09:49 AM (NOIQH)
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Phrasing.
And I said I was gonna eat you.
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf at April 07, 2017 09:51 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Publius Redux at April 07, 2017 09:51 AM (Fb9aZ)
Posted by: dantesed
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Certainly not the patron saint of comfortable footwear, that was Saint Hubbins.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2017 09:51 AM (7ZVPa)
De Verazze continues: "And Julian felt deep sadness and his face drew into a frown. He rode back home, went to his bed and found a man and a woman sleeping in it. He drew his sword and killed them both. He was about to take off and never again set foot in that land, but as he was leaving he saw his wife sitting among the other women. She told him: 'There are your mother and father resting in your room'.
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...and now you know the rest of the story.
It does sound suspiciously similar to some Greek tragedies.
Posted by: mpthompson at April 07, 2017 09:52 AM (b0njJ)
Posted by: The Big Bad Wolf
I'm sure the wolf got more than he bargained for "eating out" grandma
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 09:52 AM (FZYNt)
"You're fucking laws didn't save anyone at the Bataclan"
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 07, 2017 09:52 AM (FqgrG)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2017 09:49 AM (lwiT4)
St. Julian stabbing his parents to death?
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 07, 2017 09:50 AM (0mRoj)
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I was thinking maybe for Mother's Day Sunday? No?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2017 09:52 AM (lwiT4)
Seems like there's nearly on jihadi attack somewhere in the west every day now.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 09:53 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: General Zod at April 07, 2017 09:53 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: washrivergal at April 07, 2017 09:53 AM (Ivjge)
Huh.
Posted by: fixerupper
Resolved: Drink a lot less at deer camp. A whole lot less.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Abhorrent Abominations Abound at the Outrage Outlet! at April 07, 2017 09:53 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Gary Hart at April 07, 2017 09:54 AM (vRcUp)
Posted by: Alex #11 at April 07, 2017 09:54 AM (ka13S)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2017 09:52 AM (lwiT4)
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Oh, please no. Last year on Mother's Day, if I recall correctly, the food thread was all about the worst thing you've ever eaten. No need to sully the day any further.
Posted by: bluebell at April 07, 2017 09:54 AM (RZA9I)
Seems like there's nearly on jihadi attack somewhere in the west every day now.
Posted by: Lizzy
Well Trumps rhetoric just encourages attacks, to make him look accurate.
Posted by: Elitist Lefty Douche at April 07, 2017 09:54 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Abhorrent Abominations Abound at the Outrage Outlet! at April 07, 2017 09:53 AM (hLRSq)
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Drink less at deer camp? Let's not get all crazy here.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2017 09:55 AM (lwiT4)
According to a pious fiction that was very popular in the Middle Ages,
Julian was of noble birth and while hunting one day, was reproached by a
hart for hunting him and told that he would one day kill his mother and
father. He was richly rewarded for his services by a king and married a
widow. While he was away his mother and father arrived at his castle
seeking him; When his wife realized who they were, she put them up for
the night in the master's bed room. When Julian returned unexpectedly
later that night and saw a man and a woman
in his bed, he suspected the worst and killed them both. When his wife
returned from church and he found he had killed his parents, he was
overcome with remorse and fled the castle, resolved to do a fitting
penance. He was joined by his wife and they built an inn for travelers
near a wide river, and a hospital for the poor. He was forgiven for his
crime when he gave help to a leper in his own bed; the leper turned out
to be a messenger from God who had been sent to test him. He is the patron of hotel keepers, travelers, and boatmen. His feast day is February 12th.
My favorite line: "He gave help to a leper in his own bed . . . ." Knowing what happened in his bed initially I am not sure why he would be anywhere near it with anyone else in the room but - eh - who I am I to second guess the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Posted by: Publius Redux at April 07, 2017 09:55 AM (Fb9aZ)
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 07, 2017 09:55 AM (fiGNd)
Posted by: mpthompson at April 07, 2017 09:55 AM (b0njJ)
Apparently arson, knives, and the odd bomb/grenade is totes legal...or just frowned upon, because those kinds of attacks happen all the time.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 09:55 AM (NOIQH)
Norman Bates probably had a picture of him over the front desk.
Posted by: Roman Polanski at April 07, 2017 09:56 AM (X6fMO)
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Also the patron saint of OJ Simpson
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2017 09:56 AM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 07, 2017 09:56 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: White Magic Woman at April 07, 2017 09:57 AM (SJ184)
Posted by: Lizzi Borden at April 07, 2017 09:57 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 07, 2017 09:57 AM (lZ2Zo)
Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 07, 2017 09:57 AM (fiGNd)
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Hotel keepers? Seriously? Better leave the light on.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2017 09:57 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Roy at April 07, 2017 09:58 AM (7n4KQ)
Posted by: Motel 6 at April 07, 2017 09:58 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 07, 2017 09:58 AM (fiGNd)
Does that seriously ever happen or is it a metaphor, like being accosted by a squirrel?
Posted by: Dang at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (8b+oT)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2017 09:57 AM (lwiT4)
it keeps the roaches out of sight
Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (0O7c5)
Julian was made a Saint because he founded the first HoJo's.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Oedipus at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (7n4KQ)
Laws of Alfred the Great sez that if you catch a man behind (your) closed doors with your wife, you can break down the door and whack him without being liable for wergeld - i.e., justifiable homicide.
Sounds reasonable to me, actually.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (7ZVPa)
You got that right! *hic*
*shart*
HUMA! MOMMY NEEDS A LOOFAH!
GET YOUR SKANK HOURI ASS OVER HERE BEFORE I REALLY GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO CRY ABOUT!
**vomit**
**faceplant**
Posted by: Hillary at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (jjaLl)
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (Astxw)
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 07, 2017 10:00 AM (57R5r)
Posted by: Prancercise With Putin at April 07, 2017 10:00 AM (ONL5p)
The future world is so perfect, safe, and idealized that a single gangster is immune from any sort of reprisals because no one knows how to deal with him anymore.
I think of this because of the (hopefully sarcastic) calls to ban knives after knife attacks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:00 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Dang at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (8b+oT)
SQUIRRELS ARE EVIL!
I hopped online to see what was going on in the world and kind of wish I hadn't.
Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 07, 2017 10:00 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Dang at April 07, 2017 10:00 AM (8b+oT)
Posted by: Dolphin at April 07, 2017 10:00 AM (FqgrG)
Posted by: Rick in SK
Things happen in threes.
Hillary - time for your nap.
Posted by: Roy at April 07, 2017 10:00 AM (7n4KQ)
Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2017 10:00 AM (2Mnv1)
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We have filed suit against the artist's estate and the heirs of the Middle Ages for retroactive damages from copyright violations.
Posted by: Disney Legal - Bambi division at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (tz0ev)
Posted by: washrivergal at April 07, 2017 09:53 AM (Ivjge)
He had a heart-to-hart talk with him.
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Rick in SK
Things happen in threes.
Hillary - time for your nap.
Posted by: Roy at April 07, 2017 10:00 AM (7n4KQ)
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Hillary is going to be relatively harmless.
RBG though...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (FZYNt)
I know!
Go fund me for new mosque!
Svenhamad.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (d76uN)
And I salute you, Sir!
Posted by: Little Man in the Boat at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (l1pkh)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Julian at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (8b+oT)
He had a heart-to-hart talk with him.
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (7HtZB)
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Oh deer.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 10:02 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Evil Manipulative Hart at April 07, 2017 10:02 AM (RD7QR)
Does that seriously ever happen or is it a metaphor, like being accosted by a squirrel?
Posted by: Dang
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It happens occasionally with rabbits.
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at April 07, 2017 10:02 AM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (NOIQH)
Knew I always liked Alfred.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2017 10:03 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (FZYNt)
I think Socrates was on more of a chaise lounge..... lol
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 07, 2017 10:03 AM (jjaLl)
Posted by: Swedish Government at April 07, 2017 10:03 AM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (NOIQH)
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He's also said that he'd leave Britain if he ever paid more than 50% of his income in taxes.
I have no idea of what he actually pays, whether he's hit that threshold, or what.
But he does have moments of clarity. He does seem like a blue collar guy who met huge success and never quite lost the blue collar part of him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:03 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 10:02 AM (8XRCm)
Don't start!!
I couldn't bear it.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 07, 2017 10:04 AM (jjaLl)
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at April 07, 2017 10:05 AM (tz0ev)
He had a heart-to-hart talk with him.
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (7HtZB)
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Oh deer.
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Why stag parties aren't a good idea.
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at April 07, 2017 10:05 AM (Astxw)
Carl Bildt, the former Swedish prime minister, also questioned the President's statement on Twitter."Sweden? Terror attack? What has he been smoking?" Bildt tweeted. "Questions abound."
Posted by: Colin at April 07, 2017 10:05 AM (RS7vk)
Posted by: Kevin Hart at April 07, 2017 10:05 AM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Alfred E. Neuman at April 07, 2017 10:05 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Jack Sock at April 07, 2017 10:05 AM (bLhAC)
who met huge success and never quite lost the blue collar part of him.
Pretty sure that's why he's in so many bad movies - he likes to work, so he's not all precious about accepting only scripts that meet his high standards for art.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 10:06 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2017 10:06 AM (oBHqU)
There appears to be some sort of an incident happening in ultra enlightened Swedestan. It must be some sort of right wingers unhappy with the peace loving migrants
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 10:06 AM (493sH)
Sounds reasonable to me, actually.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 07, 2017 09:59 AM (bZ7mE)
And that is why the vice president has his little rules. You never know when Alfred the Great is going to show up.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Abhorrent Abominations Abound at the Outrage Outlet! at April 07, 2017 10:07 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Swedish Government at April 07, 2017 10:07 AM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Carl Bildt at April 07, 2017 10:07 AM (FqgrG)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 07, 2017 10:07 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (NOIQH)
Looks like Alfie knows what it's all about
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 10:07 AM (493sH)
who met huge success and never quite lost the blue collar part of him.
Pretty sure that's why he's in so many bad movies - he likes to work, so he's not all precious about accepting only scripts that meet his high standards for art.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 10:06 AM (NOIQH)
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That may be a general British thing.
British actors seem to like to work a lot.
Could be both, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:07 AM (ELUpj)
It was reported the hart was heard to say to Julian "Ohhh barra- barracuda."
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 10:07 AM (8XRCm)
"When his wife returned from church and he found he had killed his parents, he was overcome with remorse and fled the castle, resolved to do a fitting penance. He was joined by his wife and they built an inn for travelers near a wide river, and a hospital for the poor. He was forgiven for his crime when he gave help to a leper in his own bed; the leper turned out to be a messenger from God who had been sent to test him. "
And now you know the rest of the story
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 09:45 AM (7HtZB)
Turned his life around, did he?
And what's this business we have of building prisons and such. We just let Pookie and Ray Ray build inns for weary travelers.
The murder problem in this country would be solved, literally, overnight.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:07 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: JuJuBee at April 07, 2017 10:08 AM (dargh)
I'm confused (shocka, huh?) about the jobs report. They're reporting this morning only 98k new jobs. I thought there was one about 2 days ago that said 230k +/- were added in March. Did I dream that or what?
Posted by: Tami at April 07, 2017 10:08 AM (Enq6K)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:08 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: Chris M at April 07, 2017 10:08 AM (eAZVt)
Posted by: Gary Johnson at April 07, 2017 10:08 AM (lWCRE)
I'm confused (shocka, huh?) about the jobs report. They're reporting this morning only 98k new jobs. I thought there was one about 2 days ago that said 230k +/- were added in March. Did I dream that or what?
Posted by: Tami at April 07, 2017 10:08 AM (Enq6K)
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The 230 was ADP's estimate. the 98 is the government number.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:09 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: geoffb5 at April 07, 2017 10:09 AM (d3wbb)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 10:06 AM (NOIQH)
Jaws The Revenge. Supposedly he stated "I have never seen the movie and I've heard it's awful. I have, however, seen the house that the check for doing it bought and it is magnificent."
James Earl Jones was the same way. He grew up poor and said he was raised that if someone offered you a job, you took it.
Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 07, 2017 10:09 AM (mf5HN)
He had a heart-to-hart talk with him.
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (7HtZB)
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Oh deer.
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Why stag parties aren't a good idea.
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It's what you get for bucking the system.
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at April 07, 2017 10:09 AM (tz0ev)
We should be bombing the real perpetrator of violence..
Al Leppo !!!
Posted by: Gary Johnson at April 07, 2017 10:08 AM (lWCRE)
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Just go away.
My vote for you was painful enough.
Don't keep bringing it up.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:09 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Lyle and Eric Menendez at April 07, 2017 10:10 AM (oVJmc)
3 dead in Stockholm Swedestan after truck drives into a department store. We'll never know the motives of Mohammed Achmed Mohammed who was screaming Allah Akbar the whole time
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 10:10 AM (493sH)
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Ah, ok. Is there usually that big of a discrepancy between the two?
Posted by: Tami at April 07, 2017 10:10 AM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2017 10:10 AM (7ZVPa)
Wasn't that the theme of the Stones 'Exile on Main street' ?
They all moved to France to record the album to avoid UK taxes...
Posted by: Gary Johnson at April 07, 2017 10:11 AM (lWCRE)
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Ah, ok. Is there usually that big of a discrepancy between the two?
Posted by: Tami at April 07, 2017 10:10 AM (Enq6K)
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I don't think so.
This difference is certainly notable.
*tin foil hat on*
The government agency could be lowering the numbers to hurt Trump.
*tin foil hat off*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:11 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Grimaldi at April 07, 2017 10:11 AM (V/f/L)
Posted by: McCool at April 07, 2017 10:12 AM (lWCRE)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 07, 2017 10:12 AM (97XyN)
The premise is basically what if Obamacare pushed through
Link in nic
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at April 07, 2017 10:12 AM (hMwEB)
Posted by: McCool at April 07, 2017 10:12 AM (lWCRE)
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I think you may mean "libertarian" sock.
Gary Johnson isn't much of a libertarian.
Now...political label fight! Go!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:12 AM (ELUpj)
But rest assured, he acted ALONE
and did not have an ISIS membership card in his possession.
Posted by: McCool at April 07, 2017 10:12 AM (lWCRE)
They all moved to France to record the album to avoid UK taxes...
Posted by: Gary Johnson
Led Zep did the same thing, had to live abroad for a year if I remember correctly.
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 10:13 AM (FZYNt)
I will be as shocked by the identity of the terrorist in Stockholm as I was by the revelation that Manilow is gay.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 07, 2017 10:13 AM (B+qrE)
*tin foil hat on*
The government agency could be lowering the numbers to hurt Trump.
*tin foil hat off*
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I see we have the same hat....
Posted by: Tami at April 07, 2017 10:13 AM (Enq6K)
Or as noted scholar Will Smith said when asked if he would be willing to pay that rate after saying his taxes were too low "WOO! God Bless America!".
Posted by: Johnny Depp at April 07, 2017 10:13 AM (FqgrG)
We should be bombing the real perpetrator of violence..
Al Leppo !!!
Posted by: Gary Johnson at April 07, 2017 10:08 AM
Would that be the Jefferson County Leppos?
Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2017 10:13 AM (oBHqU)
Posted by: Grimaldi at April 07, 2017
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH GAY, YOU SEE.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at April 07, 2017 10:14 AM (V/f/L)
He had a heart-to-hart talk with him.
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (7HtZB)
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Oh deer.
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Why stag parties aren't a good idea.
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It's what you get for bucking the system.
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at April 07, 2017 10:09 AM (tz0ev)
Doe n't go there
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:14 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Nobel Laueate Obama at April 07, 2017 10:14 AM (O4CF7)
Posted by: Professor Charles W. Kingsfield Jr. at April 07, 2017 10:14 AM (IqV8l)
Sigh.
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at April 07, 2017 10:15 AM (hMwEB)
The government agency could be lowering the numbers to hurt Trump.
*tin foil hat off*
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I see we have the same hat....
Posted by: Tami at April 07, 2017 10:13 AM (Enq6K)
These numbers might be legit and ones under Barry inflated. The job market is rotten and there is no way the unemployment numbers or hires are close to reality
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 10:15 AM (493sH)
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (7HtZB)
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Oh deer.
==========
Why stag parties aren't a good idea.
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It's what you get for bucking the system.
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at April 07, 2017 10:09 AM (tz0ev)
Venison kills his mudder and fadder...
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:15 AM (Pz4pT)
Tin soldiers and ISIS coming,
Allah may your country our own.
Can you hear the engine gunning,
Three dead in Ole Stockholm.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 10:15 AM (8XRCm)
But the hart ignored his pleas.
He knew he was a lout,
As he pulled the sword out.
He couldn't see the forest for the trees!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 07, 2017 10:15 AM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Tami at April 07, 2017 10:13 AM (Enq6K)
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Bought mine at Harris Teeter.
It's super stylish.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:15 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Grimaldi at April 07, 2017
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH GAY, YOU SEE.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at April 07, 2017 10:14 AM (V/f/L)
Olivia Munn is gay?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:16 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: Def Leppo at April 07, 2017 10:17 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 10:17 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 07, 2017 10:18 AM (tHwdc)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 07, 2017 10:18 AM (vRcUp)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at April 07, 2017 10:18 AM (CPk08)
He had a heart-to-hart talk with him.
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (7HtZB)
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Oh deer.
==========
Why stag parties aren't a good idea.
==========
It's what you get for bucking the system.
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at April 07, 2017 10:09 AM (tz0ev)
Doe n't go there
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:14 AM (7HtZB)
I shall not fawn over you for making goofy puns.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at April 07, 2017 10:19 AM (oQQwD)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 10:19 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: geoffb5 at April 07, 2017 10:09 AM (d3wbb)
http://www.stjulian.com/History
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Abhorrent Abominations Abound at the Outrage Outlet! at April 07, 2017 10:19 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Tami at April 07, 2017 10:13 AM
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Bought mine at Harris Teeter.
It's super stylish.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:15 AM
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Mine is a full helmet with ear flaps and a chinstrap. Keeps the contrails out of my ear canals.
Because that's how they get you.
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at April 07, 2017 10:19 AM (tz0ev)
The science is settled.
Settled bullshit.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 07, 2017 10:20 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Kreplach at April 07, 2017 10:20 AM (Gh/jd)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 10:06 AM (NOIQH)
Michael Caine's early spy movies--the ones where he plays cockney crook and spy Harry Palmer (starting with 'The Ipcress File')--are low budget spoofs of the James Bond movies that simply wouldn't work with anyone but Caine playing Harry Palmer. He's an amazing actor.
Posted by: troyriser at April 07, 2017 10:20 AM (Fw5cQ)
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Isnt that a champagne?
Posted by: fixerupper
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No, just very expensive ice cream.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2017 10:20 AM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess
Shame to let that go to waste. Too bad there's no such thing as a foot transplant. I hate being a size 14.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 07, 2017 10:20 AM (vRcUp)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2017 10:10 AM (7ZVPa)
Oh come on now! We sent our finest female polis to arrest the victims of these totally understandable attacks because of islambophobia.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at April 07, 2017 10:21 AM (d76uN)
Can I order that online ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 07, 2017 10:22 AM (fiGNd)
inflated. The job market is rotten and there is no way the unemployment
numbers or hires are close to reality Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 10:15 AM (493sH)
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But you are in Illinois (as am I) and things are so bad here that it has really skewed our perspective. Son moved to WI a few years ago because they have something of a reasonable economy.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 07, 2017 10:22 AM (MIKMs)
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Which , despite dropping fuel costs , causes ticket prices to increase.
Of course.
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at April 07, 2017 10:22 AM (tz0ev)
inflated. The job market is rotten and there is no way the unemployment
numbers or hires are close to reality
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 10:15 AM (493sH)
I'm sure they were inflated under TFG. But the difference between ADP's number and the government's number is YUUUUGE.
And if I remember correctly, February's jobs report was over 230k. And I think that was the government's number. Something is off.
Posted by: Tami at April 07, 2017 10:22 AM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 07, 2017 10:22 AM (kTF2Z)
Yes, a guy who killed two people in their sleep is the patron saint of innkeepers.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 07, 2017 10:23 AM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Sweden at April 07, 2017 10:23 AM (Tyii7)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:16 AM (Pz4pT)
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She is now.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 10:17 AM (8XRCm)
Ok, I didn't really know who she is, because why would I. So... all I can say is, be very careful with Googley images, unless you want to see Aaron's anthony.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:23 AM (Pz4pT)
If it hasn't been mentioned the attack in Sweden took place during one of the muzzie calls to prayer.
Therefore, no muzzies on the streets.
Still seeking a motive though.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 07, 2017 10:23 AM (2x9LM)
Posted by: Sweden at April 07, 2017 10:23 AM (Tyii7)
I don't wanna' hear it. You could have taken the Irish ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 07, 2017 10:23 AM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 07, 2017 10:20 AM (vRcUp)
Never too late to try foot binding.
Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2017 10:24 AM (x9c8r)
Police are totally hindered by PC rules from above -- I recall reading that they are having a hard time finding/keeping people to be policemen in Sweden because things have gotten so bad (constant arson, no-go zones, etc.).
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/05/
police-officer-almost-serious-crime-committed-migrants/
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 10:24 AM (NOIQH)
Let's play a game...
Pedolophileaphobia
Serial Killeraphobia
Human traffickeraphobia
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 07, 2017 10:24 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:01 AM (7HtZB)
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Oh deer.
==========
Why stag parties aren't a good idea.
==========
It's what you get for bucking the system.
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at April 07, 2017 10:09 AM (tz0ev)
Doe n't go there
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:14 AM (7HtZB)
I shall not fawn over you for making goofy puns.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma
******
Ah, a pun thread. The antler to all my dreams.
Posted by: Muldoon, ambidextrous and nimble at April 07, 2017 10:25 AM (KFpN+)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 07, 2017 10:22 AM (kTF2Z)
*heads off to make popcorn*
Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 07, 2017 10:25 AM (mf5HN)
I seem to recall more than one instance of Swedish Police putting up some pretty damning stuff online. Anybody else recall that ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 07, 2017 10:25 AM (fiGNd)
Dude must have had bad eyesight
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 07, 2017 09:44 AM (FZYNt)
No kiddin.' He was able to discern a man and a woman in the darkness but not that they were his parents. That defense wouldn't fly today.
Do we know why and how he gained sainthood?
Posted by: SandyCheeks at April 07, 2017 10:25 AM (joFoi)
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:26 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 07, 2017 10:22 AM (kTF2Z)
*heads off to make popcorn*
Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 07, 2017 10:25 AM (mf5HN)
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Mindless bluster from US Senators is that exciting to you?
Okey dokey...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:26 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2017 10:26 AM (2Mnv1)
Posted by: April D Giraffe at April 07, 2017 10:26 AM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 07, 2017 10:26 AM (57R5r)
Posted by: Muldoon, ambidextrous and nimble at April 07, 2017 10:25 AM (KFpN+)
A buck who can pull off some killer deer puns gets a lot of white tail.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:27 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 07, 2017 10:27 AM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Muldoon, ambidextrous and nimble at April 07, 2017 10:25 AM (KFpN+)
Are you going to cervus us and write a delightful limerick?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2017 10:27 AM (rF0hx)
Posted by: SandyCheeks at April 07, 2017 10:25 AM (joFoi)
The election was held in Chicago.
Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2017 10:27 AM (x9c8r)
Posted by: troyriser at April 07, 2017 10:20 AM (Fw5cQ)
The first two Harry Palmer (hell of a name) movies weren't spoofs. In fact, Ipcress File was a pretty solid spy movie and Funeral in Berlin was good too. They showed more of drudgery of spy work rather than the glamour of the Bond movies. The last one Billion Dollar Brain (directed by Ken Russell) was over the top and not good. Caine made two more in 90s that were very low budget and direct to video.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 10:27 AM (493sH)
And the wife he thought he killed stayed with him.
Probably even made him a sammich.
Posted by: Meremortal..redlined yoks at April 07, 2017 10:27 AM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 07, 2017 10:27 AM (kTF2Z)
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So.... you say youre in a rut ?
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 10:28 AM (8XRCm)
So.... you say youre in a rut ?
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 10:28 AM (8XRCm)
If so, just hoof it out of there.
Posted by: golfman at April 07, 2017 10:29 AM (yxVpR)
No kiddin.' He was able to discern a man and a woman in the darkness but not that they were his parents. That defense wouldn't fly today.
Do we know why and how he gained sainthood?
Posted by: SandyCheeks at April 07, 2017 10:25 AM (joFoi)
Read up thread, he was sawwy, and promised never to do it (kill his parents) again.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:29 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: Guy who doesn't know how to do puns at April 07, 2017 10:30 AM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:26 AM (7HtZB)
No word so far on the misunderstood, not connected in any way to any group and not representative of any religion attacker
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 10:31 AM (493sH)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2017 10:31 AM (vzLRM)
Unfortunately, he decided to invade Iraq, er, "Persia", and his brilliant invasion plan was ruined by poor intelligence. He had gone in not knowing the Persians had built a wall around their capital. He died of a spear wound he suffered while fighting back out of Persia.
Posted by: Robert Crawford at April 07, 2017 10:31 AM (fV8mV)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2017 10:32 AM (vzLRM)
Unfortunately, he decided to invade Iraq, er, "Persia", and his brilliant invasion plan was ruined by poor intelligence. He had gone in not knowing the Persians had built a wall around their capital. He died of a spear wound he suffered while fighting back out of Persia.
Posted by: Robert Crawford at April 07, 2017 10:31 AM (fV8mV)
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I'll take Julian Bashir, genius, genetically enhanced doctor of Deep Space Nine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:32 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Meremortal..redlined yoks at April 07, 2017 10:32 AM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 07, 2017 10:33 AM (Nwg0u)
Violets are blue,
I'm gonna kill some sleepers,
Though I don't know, they are who ...
Posted by: Adriane the Bad Poetry Critic ... at April 07, 2017 10:33 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2017 10:31 AM (vzLRM)
*****
Just landed in Austin myself. Sick of Seattle rain.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2017 10:33 AM (NqZ29)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 10:27 AM (493sH)
Not spoofs? I'm pretty sure the selective mind-blanking technology portrayed in 'The Ipcress File' isn't the gritty realism to which you refer, but I see your point.
Posted by: troyriser at April 07, 2017 10:33 AM (Fw5cQ)
I can understand why a number of other groups and people would want the optics of this - ISIS, Hillary, the Deep State, random crazies - but not Assad or Putin.
Seems a little too convenient.
Timing and all that.
Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2017 10:33 AM (Zs4uk)
They keep building up his strawmen about the president not having the authority for this strike and I keep burning them down.
But "it's not in the Constitution!"
Good grief.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 10:33 AM (hmrpP)
Medieval church humor wasn't subtle.
Posted by: Robert Crawford at April 07, 2017 10:34 AM (fV8mV)
Posted by: Unitentified Swedish Terrorist's Mom at April 07, 2017 10:34 AM (Tyii7)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:34 AM (Pz4pT)
I can understand why a number of other groups and people would want the optics of this - ISIS, Hillary, the Deep State, random crazies - but not Assad or Putin.
Seems a little too convenient.
Timing and all that.
Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2017 10:33 AM (Zs4uk)
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The timing is off for a rational actor.
Is Assad, after 6 years of civil war, still or ever was a rational actor?
I honestly don't know.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:34 AM (ELUpj)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFE4GnUirOY
This would be the Secondary Tune, as voiced by Orson Welles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AMi-vCfAWw
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 07, 2017 10:34 AM (6gk0M)
***
25 from Silo A.... 25 from Silo B
Posted by: dananjcon at April 07, 2017 10:35 AM (WLK0w)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 07, 2017 10:35 AM (57R5r)
Posted by: Diogenes
Move. You'll forget what it looks like.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2017 10:35 AM (vzLRM)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2017 10:35 AM (NqZ29)
They keep building up his strawmen about the president not having the authority for this strike and I keep burning them down.
But "it's not in the Constitution!"
Good grief.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 10:33 AM (hmrpP)
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Sure, precedent allows it.
But it's kind of terrible precedent.
It's the precedent that allowed Obama to topple Libya, leaving nothing in its place.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:35 AM (ELUpj)
So is the terrorist in the Swedish attack on the loose?
Posted by: josephistan at April 07, 2017 10:26 AM (7HtZB)
FBN reported that he's in custody. Also reported that the legitimate driver of the truck has stopped to unload and the 'misunderstood yute' jumped in and drove off.
Posted by: Tami at April 07, 2017 10:36 AM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Swedish terrorist at April 07, 2017 10:36 AM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 07, 2017 10:36 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 07, 2017 10:36 AM (GgzGa)
Posted by: Sen. E "High Cheekbones" Warren at April 07, 2017 10:36 AM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 10:36 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2017 10:36 AM (NqZ29)
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Did you point out that we've had boots on the ground in Syria since 2015, put there by Obama.?
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 10:37 AM (8XRCm)
The walls red with blood he did paint
A reproachful hart
Told him right from the start
Now of orphans, he is the patron saint.
Posted by: Muldoon, ambidextrous and nimble at April 07, 2017 10:37 AM (KFpN+)
*falls over*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 07, 2017 10:37 AM (6gk0M)
The only things missing are the rapping and the tats.
Posted by: Meremortal..redlined yoks at April 07, 2017 10:37 AM (3myMJ)
He was a good boy. Turned his life around. Enrolled in cosmetology school.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 07, 2017 10:38 AM (97XyN)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 07, 2017 10:38 AM (57R5r)
Not that I'm entirely convinced of the scenario, just I can see how it works.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 07, 2017 10:38 AM (9krrF)
Medieval church humor wasn't subtle.
Now you know where Alfred Hitchcock got his inspiration for Psycho.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2017 10:39 AM (vzLRM)
Is Assad, after 6 years of civil war, still or ever was a rational actor?
I honestly don't know.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:34 AM (ELUpj)
It won't be the first time terrorists in the Middle East committed atrocities, and then blamed it on the one actor that would cause world opinion to shift away from them.
But sure, let's believe the facts on the ground, that NOBODY but Assad could have gassed these people.
And then let's go bomb them.
Because why? Because we bomb people who kill people who have no connection to us whatsoever.
That's some awesome foreign policy we got going there.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:39 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: SandyCheeks at April 07, 2017 10:25 AM (joFoi)
Bathroom server. The rest was easy, comradeski.
Posted by: Vlad Putin at April 07, 2017 10:39 AM (JZdsf)
Good luck.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2017 10:39 AM (NqZ29)
military is heap big bad cultural appropriation from peaceful Native
Americans! I am introducing legislation today to change the name of the
missiles from "Tomahawk" to "White Man's Tool to Oppress Peaceful
Muslims from Cowardly Long Distance."
OK, how about we rename them "Duston hatchets"?!?
Posted by: Hannah Duston, colonial badass at April 07, 2017 10:39 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Unitentified Swedish Terrorist's Mom at April 07, 2017 10:39 AM (Tyii7)
I recall reading that they are having a hard time finding/keeping people to be policemen in Sweden because things have gotten so bad (constant arson, no-go zones, etc.).
No such thing as a no go zone. That's right wing Islamophobic propaganda.
NPR told me so.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 07, 2017 10:40 AM (IqV8l)
It's well beyond simply precedent. The president has the power, authority and legal grounding to carry out these actions.
It's only "terrible" when used incompetently, see President Obama for one.
I believe my point was more this nonsense that the president requires the approval of Congress for what is partially his Article II, Section II power as CiNC.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 10:40 AM (hmrpP)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 07, 2017 10:40 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: dananjcon
ICWYDT
Posted by: weft cut-loop
So did Assad.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2017 10:40 AM (vzLRM)
I can understand why a number of other groups and people would want the optics of this - ISIS, Hillary, the Deep State, random crazies - but not Assad or Putin.
Seems a little too convenient.
Timing and all that.
Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2017 10:33 AM (Zs4uk)
I'm guessing the Russians coerced Assad to do it in order to gauge President Trump's reactions. It was done as an intelligence probe. Remember when Chinese fighter jets intercepted a US intelligence-gathering aircraft in international airspace early in W's term? Same thing.
Posted by: troyriser at April 07, 2017 10:40 AM (Fw5cQ)
But sure, let's believe the facts on the ground, that NOBODY but Assad could have gassed these people.
And then let's go bomb them.
Because why? Because we bomb people who kill people who have no connection to us whatsoever.
That's some awesome foreign policy we got going there.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:39 AM (Pz4pT)
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Wasn't commenting on our reaction (which I don't support), but just the idea that Assad is a rational actor and would never do such things.
Power mad dictators do tend to do irrational things from time to time.
I don't know much more than that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:40 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: SarahW at April 07, 2017 10:41 AM (Sp1NT)
Posted by: It's Me donna at April 07, 2017 10:41 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2017 10:41 AM (zeo/4)
Posted by: It's Me donna at April 07, 2017 10:41 AM (O2RFr)
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What...
Posted by: The Same Statistician That Had Hillary In A Landslide at April 07, 2017 10:42 AM (8XRCm)
Wonder if that's the reaction they expected?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2017 10:42 AM (vzLRM)
So the answer is simple: the story we have is wrong. The Saint is stabbing people who are ALREADY DEAD, probably poisoned by his wife, and he's stabbing them to cover up for her crime and take the fall. The fake story was propagated, probably by the Catholic Church, because the guys wife was probably a Bishop's sister or something.
Truth will out, guys.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at April 07, 2017 10:42 AM (CPk08)
They could hurt their backs doing this.
Posted by: Meremortal..redlined yoks at April 07, 2017 10:42 AM (3myMJ)
It's well beyond simply precedent. The president has the power, authority and legal grounding to carry out these actions.
It's only "terrible" when used incompetently, see President Obama for one.
I believe my point was more this nonsense that the president requires the approval of Congress for what is partially his Article II, Section II power as CiNC.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 10:40 AM (hmrpP)
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Don't care.
It's a terrible power for a president to have.
I would hope that the power gets pulled back, making it harder for us to get involved in foreign wars without a broader consensus than the president's wishes.
That's probably never going to happen, but I'm also never going to stop complaining about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:42 AM (ELUpj)
Brit Spy was a genre and the Bond films were at the silly end of that spectrum. Caine also did The Fourth Protocol, one of my favorite books ever though the movie was not half so good.
As noted yesterday, The Italian Job is a career in itself.
Posted by: JEM at April 07, 2017 10:42 AM (TppKb)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 07, 2017 10:42 AM (57R5r)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 07, 2017 10:43 AM (6gk0M)
She accepted Christ afterward. She's the patron saint of widows and converts.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 07, 2017 10:43 AM (G8B7r)
Posted by ScoggDogg
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Just the materials. The secret is to layer egg whites between each aluminum sheet. They HATE organic matter.
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at April 07, 2017 10:44 AM (tz0ev)
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Wasn't commenting on our reaction (which I don't support), but just the idea that Assad is a rational actor and would never do such things.
Power mad dictators do tend to do irrational things from time to time.
I don't know much more than that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:40 AM (ELUpj)
I know, I'm not arguing with you. Sorry if it came off that way.
I'm saying, this is ugly, and all the drumbeat hastiness to start bombing over there is more likely to make matters worse, not better.
So I'll make this blanket statement, which should have been U.S. policy for decades now: We stay out of the Middle East, unless and until Israel is threatened.
Otherwise, let everyone everywhere kill everybody.
I'm beyond caring.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:44 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: SarahW at April 07, 2017 10:44 AM (Sp1NT)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2017 10:44 AM (1aLjg)
Read on another site that Assad used them to root out rebels....
Posted by: It's Me donna at April 07, 2017 10:44 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: troyriser at April 07, 2017 10:33 AM (Fw5cQ)
When I think of spy spoofs I think of Matt Helm. It might not have been the Spy Who Came in From the Cold but the first two were played pretty straight. Plus Ipcress File had a good John Barry score and Sue Lloyd. Blimey!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 10:44 AM (493sH)
They could hurt their backs doing this.
Posted by: Meremortal..redlined yoks at April 07, 2017 10:42 AM (3myMJ)
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Ive had good success with "So one Russian puppet bombed another Russian puppet, huh" meme when dealing with my lefty friends on social media today.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2017 10:44 AM (8XRCm)
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And out of control trucks.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 07, 2017 10:44 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 07, 2017 10:43 AM (G8B7r)
So, I've still got a pretty good shot at this "Saint" thing...
Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2017 10:45 AM (Zs4uk)
Truth will out, guys.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In
*takes notes*
*wipes ass with notes*
*collects $25 mill option check*
*wipes ass with check*
Posted by: Dann Brownn at April 07, 2017 10:45 AM (GgzGa)
He thought the Russians would have his back and that nothing would come from it.
He and his military miscalculated.
I see the Russian propaganda machine is trying to state only half the tLAM's made it to target. I'm laughing at them because there is a demonstrable initial BDA that is showing a different story.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 10:45 AM (hmrpP)
approval of Congress for what is partially his Article II, Section II
power as CiNC. Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 10:40 AM (hmrpP)
That "partially" part is a sticky wicket, huh? In fact, on a second reading of 2/II, it's not sticky at all...
Posted by: General Zod at April 07, 2017 10:45 AM (Bdeb0)
As horrible and explicit as this painting is, and that blood is certainly prominent, the audience presumably knew the whole story. Julian is either jinxed by evil spirits at birth or is being tested by the devil. The outcome of this tragedy is that he became The Hospitaller. I don't know where Aretino stands as an influence but the usual stiffness in the figures of the period is a bit less here. His use of color enlivens the whole work, making it more effective.
I wonder if this was one of a series in the story of Saint Julian. It's so stark it seems odd to be a stand alone piece.
Posted by: JTB at April 07, 2017 10:46 AM (V+03K)
Posted by: troyriser at April 07, 2017 10:40 AM (Fw5cQ)
I'm guessing Assad doesn't have much day to day operational control over all of his colonels and generals. I'm guessing that the officer corps of the SAA is basically a gang of heavily armed thugs with only moderate impulse control and Assad is just the head gangster. Not to say he isn't responsible, but it's a shit storm over there.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at April 07, 2017 10:46 AM (CPk08)
Speaking of Son of Sam, it's a long, sometimes confusing read, but if you're a true-crime buff, I recommend the late Maury Terry's The Ultimate Evil. His take is that, while Berkowitz committed at least one murder, the other Sam killings were performed by a Satanic cult with Manson Family connections centered in Yonkers and that Berkowitz was selected as the fall guy.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2017 10:47 AM (X6fMO)
According to de Varazze, the night Julian was born, his father, a man of noble blood, saw pagan witches
secretly jinx his son into killing both his parents. His father wanted
to get rid of the child, but his mother did not let him do so. As the
boy grew into a handsome young man, his mother would regularly burst
into tears because of the sin her son was destined to commit. When he
finally found out the reason for her tears, he swore he "would never
commit such a sin" and "with great belief in Christ
went off full of courage" as far away from his parents as he could.
Some versions say that it was his mother who told him at the age of 10,
while others say it was a stag he met in the forest while hunting (a
situation used in depicting St. Julian in statues and pictures). After
fifty days of walking he finally reached Galicia where he married a "good woman", said to be a wealthy widow.
Twenty years later, his parents decided to go look for their now
thirty-year-old son. When they arrived, they visited the altar of St. James,
and "as soon as they came out of the church they met a woman sitting on
a chair outside, whom the pilgrims greeted and asked, for Jesus' love,
whether she would host them for the night as they were tired". She let
them in and told them that her husband, Julian, was out hunting. (This
is why he is also known as the patron of hunters). The mother and father
were overjoyed to have found their son, as was Julian's wife. "She took
care of them well and had them rest in her and Julian's bed". But the enemy
went off seeking Julian and told him: 'I have sour news for you. While
you are here, hunting, your wife is in bed embracing another man. There
they are right now, still sleeping.'"
De Verazze continues: "And Julian felt deep sadness and his face drew
into a frown. He rode back home, went to his bed and found a man and a
woman sleeping in it. He drew his sword and killed them both. He was
about to take off and never again set foot in that land, but as he was
leaving he saw his wife sitting among the other women. She told him:
'There are your mother and father resting in your room'. And so Julian
knew, and fell into a rage. 'The shrewd enemy lied to me when he said my
wife was betraying me', and while kissing their wounds he cried 'Better
had I never been born, for I am cursed in soul and body.' And his good
wife comforted him and said 'Have faith in Christ Almighty, a stream of
life and mercy.' They had no children... Gold and silver they had a
lot... And after seeking redemption in Rome, Julian built seven
hospitals and twenty-five houses. And the poor started flowing to him,
to Jesus' Almighty's love."
Posted by: the chair leg of truth at April 07, 2017 10:47 AM (cfjq1)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:42 AM (ELUpj)
It will if this ends up as a hot war with Russia.
Considering how irresponsible the left has been recently, with everything else they are accusing Russia of doing, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if we saw a Russian attack on Americans or clear allies of American over there. Like American controlled areas of Iraq.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:47 AM (Pz4pT)
Alas after eight years of feckless 'leadership' by a Theta xir who's only desire was to avoid looking bad, the bad actors upon the world stage are out of control.
So ask yourself this question about foreign policy. Do you want an Alpha male cowboy who draw's his own red lines and is willing to go to the mat over them? Or more of Sir Nancy Boy of the Prissy Scold like the past eight years?
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2017 10:48 AM (zeo/4)
Posted by: Hannah Duston, colonial badass at April 07, 2017 10:48 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 07, 2017 10:48 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: The Swedish Chef at April 07, 2017 10:49 AM (4AVeu)
We will just have to respectfully disagree then. To me it's part of the power I want our CiNC to have. Like any power it should be wielded with wisdom and measure. But we should expect that.
Time is usually of the essence in these matters. I'm not willing to have a president cede that power to a deliberative body who can't even pass a budget anymore.
This was the right, measured thing to do. Period.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 10:50 AM (hmrpP)
I'm beyond caring.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:44 AM (Pz4pT)
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I'm okay with that.
I'm not an isolationist, but I'd like it if we did a bit less around the world. And when we do, we do it with a bit more deliberation and input from the people's representatives in Congress.
Is that so much to ask?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:50 AM (ELUpj)
Actually Reagan's firing of the Air Traffic Controllers in their strike had the same effect. He demonstrated he meant business and would take decisive action.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2017 10:51 AM (oBHqU)
Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2017 10:51 AM (2Mnv1)
I honestly believe that they've become so enmeshed with tunnel-visioned liberal activists that they would do unthinkable things if they believed it would embarrass Trump for a news cycle.
The purge needs to happen quickly and thoroughly.
Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2017 10:51 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Meremortal..redlined yoks at April 07, 2017 10:52 AM (3myMJ)
Time is usually of the essence in these matters. I'm not willing to have a president cede that power to a deliberative body who can't even pass a budget anymore.
This was the right, measured thing to do. Period.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 10:50 AM (hmrpP)
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"Respectfully disagree"?
What the hell?
What is this place? I thought this was the HQ? Did I take a wrong turn somewhere?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:52 AM (ELUpj)
https://tinyurl.com/lda5zgs
Posted by: MAGA at April 07, 2017 10:53 AM (A4HOq)
Posted by: Meremortal..redlined yoks at April 07, 2017 10:52 AM (3myMJ)
Hmmm, it's a real humdinger of a mystery there, I tells you.
Posted by: Zombie S. Hussein at April 07, 2017 10:53 AM (Pz4pT)
https://tinyurl.com/lda5zgs
Posted by: MAGA at April 07, 2017 10:53 AM (A4HOq)
When did we get out of a recession?
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at April 07, 2017 10:54 AM (RD7QR)
lot... And after seeking redemption in Rome, Julian built seven
hospitals and twenty-five houses.
There's your motive for the cover up right there. She's a "rich widow' (read: she'd killed off a few other husbands) but she finally got caught, and in return for her husband taking the fall, she'll pay off the Church.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at April 07, 2017 10:54 AM (CPk08)
By such actions that included Operation El Dorado Canyon, Reagan showed the world that they really did not want to mess with him and the US.
That old saw of Machiavelli comes into play - "Better to be feared than liked."
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2017 10:54 AM (zeo/4)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2017 10:54 AM (1aLjg)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2017 10:44 AM (1aLjg)
I wouldn't lend credence to anything the Russians say.
And about a 'proper' Sarin attack: there isn't one. The problem with gas (or particulate) dispersion has been evident since the beginning, when the Germans first employed chlorine gas at the 2nd Battle of Ypres in WWI. The wind shifted. Hilarity ensued.
The point is chemical warfare cannot be normalized; e.g., viewed by murderous dictators as an easy means of civilian pacification.
Posted by: troyriser at April 07, 2017 10:54 AM (Fw5cQ)
I wonder where the Sarin gas came from that the rebels supposedly had stored, according to Assad.
Amazon or ebay.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 07, 2017 10:54 AM (IqV8l)
Is that so much to ask?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I can tell you're not Cobra Kai material.
Posted by: Sensei Steve or whatever at April 07, 2017 10:55 AM (GgzGa)
What the hell?
What is this place? I thought this was the HQ? Did I take a wrong turn somewhere?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:52 AM (ELUpj)
Yeah, really. I mean, fuck off, man.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at April 07, 2017 10:55 AM (CPk08)
Didn't Susan Rice tell us that all chemical weapons had been removed from Syria? I mean, if you can't trust what the former president's top national security advisor said, then who can you trust?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 10:55 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: 'Cold Civil War'. That seems apt. at April 07, 2017 10:55 AM (oBuXO)
It's part of my personal effort to restore civility. But that's how I always roll.
Besides. You make good points, we just see it differently. At some point perhaps people will get back to the juncture where we can intellectually disagree- and that's OK.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 10:55 AM (hmrpP)
Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2017 10:51 AM (2Mnv1)
All I know is, I'm for the People's Liberation Front of Syria.
Those fellas from the Syrian People's Liberation Front are some right bastards.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 10:56 AM (Pz4pT)
Yeah, really. I mean, fuck off, man.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at April 07, 2017 10:55 AM (CPk0
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Phew...
I was getting worried there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:56 AM (ELUpj)
Those fellas from the Syrian People's Liberation Front are some right bastards.
Splitter!!!!
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2017 10:57 AM (zeo/4)
Hello there!!
Posted by: Country Boy at April 07, 2017 10:57 AM (Jcg9Q)
THAT and seeing how congress is off all of April.....
I would hate for December 7th, 1941 to happen on April 15th, or 9-11 happen on 4-20.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2017 10:58 AM (vzLRM)
She looked me straight in the eye whilst doing so.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler at April 07, 2017 10:58 AM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 07, 2017 10:58 AM (57R5r)
You'd be surprised what turns up on craigslist.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 07, 2017 10:58 AM (YEelc)
After Eight Long Locust Years, President Trump stood up for Humanity and against the Dictators for a change.
President Trump drew a Red Line--and enforced it within 48 hours. He kept his word.
President Trump used our Intelligence Services against our adversaries, not against Democrats and senators.
And while the Left blathers on against "normalizing Trump", that is, accepting the results of an election, President Trump said we will not accept the Normalization of Dictators Spraying Children With Pesticides Like They Were Cockroaches.
Even the Chinese approved; now they know that the military technology that they purchased from the Clintons works as advertised.
Bravo, Mr. President. You struck a long overdue blow for America, for freedom and, dammit, For The Children(tm).
It's been so long since we had a president who didn't beg for Putin's permission or the Ayatollah's approval before acting, we'd almost forgotten what its like to have a president stand up for us.
Well done, sir.
Posted by: Typhoid Hillary at April 07, 2017 10:58 AM (m6qV1)
It's part of my personal effort to restore civility. But that's how I always roll.
Besides. You make good points, we just see it differently. At some point perhaps people will get back to the juncture where we can intellectually disagree- and that's OK.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 10:55 AM (hmrpP)
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Seriously, though.
I appreciate the effort. I do my best to never rise to insults myself.
I actually find debate more fun when I can continually tell my opponent to refocus on the original point of discussion.
"That's an interesting point, but not really that related. When we're finished discussing A, then we can come back and start discussing B."
In my experience, debates, especially political ones, tend to shoot off in five directions at once where a discussion on the morality of abortion becomes something about federally funded ant farm within five minutes. Those end up being completely worthless. Forcing focus actually makes the talks more productive, less emotional, and more interesting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:59 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Jack Sock at April 07, 2017 10:59 AM (bLhAC)
That said - f*ck that place and everyone in it.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2017 10:59 AM (1aLjg)
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at April 07, 2017 10:54 AM (RD7QR)
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Good point, deepening recession would probably be a better statement.
You can go to the link and there will be information on that very subject.
https://tinyurl.com/lua3o4j
Posted by: MAGA at April 07, 2017 10:59 AM (A4HOq)
Besides. You make good points, we just see it differently. At some
point perhaps people will get back to the juncture where we can
intellectually disagree- and that's OK. Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 10:55 AM (hmrpP)
I wasn't convinced by your argument until you concluded by saying that you were "right. Period." That changed everything for me, and clarified the issue.
I'm kidding. Kneel before Zod.
Posted by: General Zod at April 07, 2017 11:00 AM (Bdeb0)
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Too bad that won't work. They have to be dealt with like it or not.
See also: Muslims in South America
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 07, 2017 11:00 AM (0x/TW)
that actually removed the chemical weapons that were known from Syria,
in a way that the use of force would never have accomplished. Our aim in
contemplating the use of force following the use of chemical weapons in
August of 2013 was not to intervene in the civil war, not to become
involved in the combat between Assad and the opposition, but to deal
with the threat of chemical weapons by virtue of the diplomacy that we
did with Russia and with the Security Council. We were able to get the
Syrian government to voluntarily and verifiably give up its chemical
weapons stockpile.
--- Susan Rice, in January NPR interview
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 11:01 AM (NOIQH)
-Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 10:52 AM (ELUpj)
Allow me to stand-in and call you names...
-You Silly Bastard
-You Pile of Horseshit
-You're not capable of thought beyond a Dixie-Cup
-Who the Hell do you think you are, Nostradamus?
-Some people think things through. You're not one of them.
-Care to come back with facts? --Thanks!
-Hit the showers because you smell like vinegar.
I hope I have triggered you and allowed you to consume feces in a reasonable fashion.
-Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 07, 2017 11:01 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2017 11:01 AM (1aLjg)
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Too bad that won't work. They have to be dealt with like it or not.
See also: Muslims in South America
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 07, 2017 11:00 AM (0x/TW)
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I don't know...the Middle East is becoming less and less important with their increasing inability to control the price of oil.
Maybe we could build a wall around the Middle East...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 11:01 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2017 11:01 AM (zeo/4)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2017 10:51 AM (oBHqU)
Yup. And remember the big Fake News of the day? ZOMG AIRPLANES WILL BE FALLING OUT OF THE SKY BECAUSE OF THAT CRAZY MAN RONNIE RAY-GUN!!!!1!eleventy!
Heh. Good times.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 07, 2017 11:01 AM (ul9CR)
I would hate for December 7th, 1941 to happen on April 15th, or 9-11 happen on 4-20.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2017 10:58 AM (vzLRM)
Isn't 4-20 a stoner holiday? Our response will be to drop a B-52 load of bananas on unsuspecting Zulu tribes in Swahili.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 11:01 AM (Pz4pT)
-Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 07, 2017 11:01 AM (6gk0M)
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It's like a warm, fuzzy blanket in winter while I sip on a warm cup of cocoa.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 11:02 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2017 11:02 AM (2Mnv1)
Posted by: Country Boy at April 07, 2017 11:02 AM (Jcg9Q)
Didn't Susan Rice tell us that all chemical weapons had been removed from Syria? I mean, if you can't trust what the former president's top national security advisor said, then who can you trust?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 10:55 AM (NOIQH)
John Kerry is who made that announcement and it was supposedly all of Assad's chemical weapons removed per the agreement reached in negotiations that included the Russians.
Posted by: Jack Sock at April 07, 2017 11:02 AM (bLhAC)
Assad thought the Russians had his six no matter what, then I can see
him deciding chem weapons were an thing he could get away with. It
would be far from the first "miscalculation" on similar basis undertaken
in that region.
Not that I'm entirely convinced of the scenario, just I can see how it works.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 07, 2017 10:38 AM (9krrF)
I do not see how Assad using chemical weapons (assuming he did) is any different than him going in with soldiers, lining people up and shooting them all in the head. They are just as dead either way. Him having chemical weapons is a concern in general but (again assuming he used them which I think is a rather large assumption given whose word we are taking on that) he did not use them on US citizens or our allies.
So how is this our business? If we are going to intervene here, are we responsible for policing all shit-hole dictatorships that slaughter their citizens? If so, what is the numerical cut-off? 80? 60? 1? If we are concerning ourselves with Syria's internal matters (where literally everyone is in one bad guy group or another) why are we not intervening in Venezuela where people are also being murdered by their government?
Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2017 11:02 AM (f5uaD)
Are we at war with our Russian masters now?
Posted by: Country Boy at April 07, 2017 11:02 AM (Jcg9Q)
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Nope, just undermining all of their finances by driving down the price of oil with shale and fracking.
War may come later, though. Stay tuned.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 11:03 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2017 11:02 AM (2Mnv1)
It was his unforgettable role in Airplane.
Posted by: Country Boy at April 07, 2017 11:03 AM (Jcg9Q)
Posted by: CNN at April 07, 2017 11:03 AM (6n332)
-Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 11:02 AM (ELUpj)
Welcome back, Sir.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 07, 2017 11:03 AM (6gk0M)
Maybe we could build a wall around the Middle East...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Lance the boil and take their oil. Glass their ass and take their gas.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2017 11:04 AM (vzLRM)
Are we at war with our Russian masters now?
Posted by: Country Boy at April 07, 2017 11:02 AM (Jcg9Q)
Yep. This is evidence that its really the Zionists who control everything in the Mid East.
Gimme 5 minutes and I'll figure out how. But trust me, I can!
Posted by: Rev Jeremiah Wright at April 07, 2017 11:04 AM (CPk08)
Posted by: Meremortal..redlined yoks at April 07, 2017 11:04 AM (3myMJ)
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Too bad that won't work. They have to be dealt with like it or not.
See also: Muslims in South America
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 07, 2017 11:00 AM (0x/TW)
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I don't know...the Middle East is becoming less and less important with their increasing inability to control the price of oil.
Maybe we could build a wall around the Middle East...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 11:01 AM (ELUpj)
Remember when Rumsfeld (I think it was Rumsfeld) said we'd deal with the problem over there, so we don't have to deal with it over here?
How we laughed and laughed.
Too bad the joke is on us. Now we get to deal with it over there AND over here.
Yay us.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 11:05 AM (Pz4pT)
I would be happy if the more stable ME countries would take care of their own and stop sending them here and to Europe.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 11:05 AM (NOIQH)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l5gjjkb
-Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2017 11:01 AM (zeo/4)
These Great United States of America.
...as The World watched.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 07, 2017 11:05 AM (6gk0M)
I would be happy if the more stable ME countries would take care of their own and stop sending them here and to Europe.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 11:05 AM (NOIQH)
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That sounds like quite an investment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 11:06 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: 'Cold Civil War'. That seems apt. at April 07, 2017 10:55 AM (oBuXO)
Barry in Tahiti: What's this about fucking men?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 11:06 AM (493sH)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 11:05 AM (NOIQH)
I hear ya. That f'n Rahm guy.....
Posted by: Chicago at April 07, 2017 11:06 AM (CPk08)
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It's Arabic for, "Do you validate parking?"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 07, 2017 11:08 AM (Nwg0u)
They arrested a guy that looked Muslim ... five dead last I heard.
twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/850351773432860672/photo/1
Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2017 11:08 AM (TmCOq)
Assad tried, look what it got him.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2017 11:08 AM (vzLRM)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2017 11:02 AM (f5uaD)
Hell, how about our own shithole neighbors to the south? Mexico does some wild and kinky stuff, AND they send all their unwanted here.
Why are we not bombing them? If there's any other place in the world that is more of a threat to the USA, I cannot imagine how.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 11:08 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 07, 2017 11:09 AM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Susan R.R.R. Rice at April 07, 2017 11:09 AM (Tyii7)
After OIF knocked Saddam off, Colonel Qaddafi started to turn over his WMD program to the US just to stay in power. Libya had already transferred to US control all the equipment to deliver mustard gas when the Idiot in Chief decided that there must be regime change in Tripoli.
Which meant that barrels of mustard agent and Uranium yellowcake suddenly were up for grabs as a civil war raged. Does anyone know what happened to those stockpiles.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2017 11:09 AM (zeo/4)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 11:05 AM (NOIQH)
Hey!
Posted by: Paul Anka at April 07, 2017 11:09 AM (CPk08)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l5gjjkb
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2017 11:01 AM (zeo/4)
Seriously Hilda, you've got to stop smoking weed before we do the incantations in the desert.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at April 07, 2017 11:09 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Dan Blather at April 07, 2017 11:11 AM (Tyii7)
So last night's action was twofold. First, as a signatory to an agreement between us, Syria, and the Russians, that all chem. weapons in Syria(likely the WMD Bush thought was in Iraq, but the entire world watched news footage of caravans hauling out of Iraq to Syria) would be destroyed, we have a right and a duty to ensure that the other signatories are living up to their side of the deal. Or else why ever sign anything. Let everything be survival of the fittest....
Obviously the Syrians weren't. So we fixed that for them last night.
Also, as a couple of military analysts pointed out, we have troops on the ground in Syria. Rightly or wrongly, they are there and we need to protect them.
Ignore this gassing and what to say Assad wouldn't be emboldened to drop them on our troops next time.
Posted by: Jen at April 07, 2017 11:11 AM (OBjuz)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 07, 2017 11:11 AM (h/uSM)
Posted by: geoffb5 at April 07, 2017 11:12 AM (d3wbb)
"My god what the hell are we doing to each other?"
We???????
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 11:12 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Colin at April 07, 2017 11:13 AM (RS7vk)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 07, 2017 11:11 AM (h/uSM)
SEE?! We TOLD you Pence was a murdering Christofascist!
Posted by: SJWs everywhere at April 07, 2017 11:13 AM (RD7QR)
-Implausible Shitburger
-Incomprehensible Ass-Clown
-Intense Cockwatcher
-Unavailable, Shit-Savoring Jackass
-Anus-Sucking Tongue-Pleaser.
No need to vote, but it is now "In the Ether".
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 07, 2017 11:13 AM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Colin at April 07, 2017 11:13 AM (RS7vk)
Certainly, certainly.
Posted by: Zombie Qaddafi or Khaddafy or Whatever at April 07, 2017 11:14 AM (RD7QR)
"My god what the hell are we doing to each other?"
Somebody tweet back, "What do you mean 'we,' white man?"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2017 11:14 AM (X6fMO)
"My god what the hell are we doing to each other?"
We???????
Dumb turd has watched too many Coke commercials.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2017 11:14 AM (JZdsf)
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at April 07, 2017 11:15 AM (rX06+)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 07, 2017 11:15 AM (57R5r)
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So the truth finally comes out.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 07, 2017 11:15 AM (Nwg0u)
Hillary would have been too busy siccing federal agencies on conservatives and shoveling bribes into her pockets to do much of anything else.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2017 11:15 AM (JZdsf)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 11:12 AM (NOIQH)
He must mean his fellow zealous dickheads with no impulse control. I think he's finally understanding things a bit more clearly. A good sign.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at April 07, 2017 11:16 AM (CPk08)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2017 11:14 AM (JZdsf)
==============
Since this is an open thread, I'm taking this in a completely new and exciting direction!
The end of Mad Men where Don Draper smiles and then the video cuts to the Coke ad. I read it as: Don Draper's new found peace is as real as the peace in the Coke ad. It's just a new way for him to lie about himself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 11:16 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 07, 2017 11:16 AM (h/uSM)
Unbelievable: Chris Cilizza tweets this in response to terror attack in Sweden:
"My god what the hell are we doing to each other?"
We???????
Posted by: Lizzy
What did I do to make them run over me??
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 07, 2017 11:16 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 11:05 AM (NOIQH)
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That sounds like quite an investment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 11:06 AM (ELUpj)
Yeah, tell me about it.
--George W. Bush.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 07, 2017 11:16 AM (y7apq)
Unbelievable: Chris Cilizza tweets this in response to terror attack in Sweden:
"My god what the hell are we doing to each other?"
We're killing each other. Here, hold my beer while I reload, beta. Sheesh.
Posted by: General Zod at April 07, 2017 11:16 AM (Bdeb0)
No, I am not one of the ten semi-finalists. Oh well. Back to the writing right?
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2017 11:16 AM (zeo/4)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 11:12 AM (NOIQH)
He must mean his fellow zealous dickheads with no impulse control. I think he's finally understanding things a bit more clearly. A good sign.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at April 07, 2017 11:16 AM (CPk0
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It's why they think no one can be trusted with a gun. They know what they would do with one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 11:17 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Chrissy Cilia at April 07, 2017 11:18 AM (Tyii7)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2017 11:08 AM (Pz4pT)
The point is the normalization of the use of nerve gas and other chemical agents on civilians as a means of pacification. That's the point, the focus of the argument and the primary rationale behind the cruise missile attack on a Syrian air base.
If bombing the shit out of Mexico would somehow get that point across, then sure, why not? But it doesn't, it wouldn't. Hence, a cruise missile attack on a Syrian airbase.
Posted by: troyriser at April 07, 2017 11:18 AM (Fw5cQ)
John Kerry is who made that announcement and it was supposedly all of Assad's chemical weapons removed per the agreement reached in negotiations that included the Russians.
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Perhaps Assad did get rid of all he had as of a particular time. But what guarantee did our fearless diplomats have that Assad would not buy or make more? All felons up for parole claim they will never break the law again. Progressives always seem to be trustful of bad people for some reason.
Posted by: Gref at April 07, 2017 11:18 AM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Ted S at April 07, 2017 11:19 AM (oR5ks)
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is he talking about our immigration policies?
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 07, 2017 11:19 AM (h/uSM)
"My god what the hell are we doing to each other?"
We???????
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 11:12 AM (NOIQH)
God? Well now isn't that very oppressive of him to mention God. Or Hell for that matter. What a very atheist-aphobic tweet.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 11:20 AM (493sH)
"My god what the hell are we doing to each other?"
We???????
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2017 11:12 AM (NOIQH)
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So, he really believes that humanity as a whole will just magically evolve into placid, nonviolent creatures who never raise a hand against one another, huh?
I wonder if he ever asks why Greek tragedy still works today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 11:21 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2017 11:14 AM (JZdsf)
Pepsi I thought we brought about world peace
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2017 11:21 AM (493sH)
Should be interesting.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 11:21 AM (hmrpP)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at April 07, 2017 11:21 AM (kXoT0)
signatory to an agreement between us, Syria, and the Russians, that all
chem. weapons in Syria(likely the WMD Bush thought was in Iraq, but the
entire world watched news footage of caravans hauling out of Iraq to
Syria) would be destroyed, we have a right and a duty to ensure that the
other signatories are living up to their side of the deal. Or else why
ever sign anything. Let everything be survival of the fittest....
Obviously the Syrians weren't. So we fixed that for them last night.
Also, as a couple of military analysts pointed out, we have troops
on the ground in Syria. Rightly or wrongly, they are there and we need
to protect them.
Ignore this gassing and what to say Assad wouldn't be emboldened to drop them on our troops next time.
Posted by: Jen at April 07, 2017 11:11 AM (OBjuz)
Syria did not sign anything nor give any assurances that they had given up any weapons. The assurances came from the Russians. We were not enforcing any agreements and wouldn't have the right to enforce them with bombs even if we were.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2017 11:21 AM (f5uaD)
Posted by: zombie Don Rickles at April 07, 2017 11:21 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at April 07, 2017 11:21 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 07, 2017 11:22 AM (6gk0M)
"My god what the hell are we doing to each other?"
Some of us are putting out bullshit. *Glares*
Posted by: Meremortal..redlined yoks at April 07, 2017 11:22 AM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 07, 2017 11:22 AM (6gk0M)
Well Chris, some of "US" are trying to protect ourselves from the other ones of "US" who want us dead.
But dude, we're really all one big family.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2017 11:23 AM (JZdsf)
gas and other chemical agents on civilians as a means of pacification.
That's the point, the focus of the argument and the primary rationale
behind the cruise missile attack on a Syrian air base.
If bombing the shit out of Mexico would somehow get that point
across, then sure, why not? But it doesn't, it wouldn't. Hence, a
cruise missile attack on a Syrian airbase.
Posted by: troyriser at April 07, 2017 11:18 AM (Fw5cQ)
Again, would they be any less dead if he had used a conventional bomb?
Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2017 11:23 AM (f5uaD)
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That's what every bad actor in the world is asking themselves today.
New one-man sheriff/judge/jury in town. New rules, but not posted. Better be careful.
Posted by: Gref at April 07, 2017 11:23 AM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2017 11:24 AM (hmrpP)
Posted by: Gref
Which would be positive, and might ultimately be the point.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 07, 2017 11:25 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2017 11:25 AM (NqZ29)
No, I am not one of the ten semi-finalists. Oh well. Back to the writing right?
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2017 11:16 AM (zeo/4)
**hugs**
**pushes box of chocolate and bottle of Veuve Cliquot through USB port**
I'm so sorry, Anna. Patterson's loss, anyway.
Beyond that, though, did you think the course was a good use of your time and money?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2017 11:26 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 07, 2017 11:17 AM (ELUpj)
I know what I'd do with a rocket launcher, man! Free Palestine!
Posted by: Bruce Cockburn at April 07, 2017 11:27 AM (CPk08)
Posted by: Barry Manilow at April 07, 2017 11:30 AM (uhftQ)
ha ... yeah if he is really asking God "what the hell" ... there is a book or two he could read on that.
The Hadith says it is an obligation to kill all infidels that don't convert.
The Bible says man has sin nature but free will to act charitably.
Middle East meets PC West on a truck bumper in Stockholm
Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2017 11:37 AM (TmCOq)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2017 11:21 AM (f5uaD)
So Marco Rubio told a bald faced lie last night when he said that the US, Russia and Syria were all signatories to an agreement regarding WMD?
Posted by: Jen at April 07, 2017 11:38 AM (OBjuz)
Posted by: Gref at April 07, 2017 11:23 AM (AMIL/)
In short, a grownup's approach to diplomacy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 07, 2017 11:43 AM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Killerdog at April 07, 2017 11:47 AM (17bvA)
The end of Mad Men where Don Draper smiles and then the video cuts to the Coke ad. I read it as: Don Draper's new found peace is as real as the peace in the Coke ad. It's just a new way for him to lie about himself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
If the show was the Prisoner, and he was Patrick McGoohan, I'd believe it. As it is, while mad Men had some very interesting moments, I doubt that it ever rose to that level.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2017 11:47 AM (326rv)
...Prayers and vibes to all others who are currently searching. Your day is coming.
Posted by: blaster at April 07, 2017 09:47 AM (tewYv)
Congratulations on your good luck! I was laid off a couple weeks ago but haven't really started a job search yet. I'll remember your sentiment when the time comes.
Posted by: kallisto at April 07, 2017 02:20 PM (kD8Fh)
The end of Mad Men where Don Draper smiles and then the video cuts to the Coke ad. I read it as: Don Draper's new found peace is as real as the peace in the Coke ad. It's just a new way for him to lie about himself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
If the show was the Prisoner, and he was Patrick McGoohan, I'd believe it. As it is, while mad Men had some very interesting moments, I doubt that it ever rose to that level.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2017 11:47 AM (326rv)
TJM, that's as good an explanation as I've heard; I just figured after everything he had been through, instead of changing himself, he went back to work and continued to be a d-bag, after making a yuuge deal on the Coke ad
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