Mid-Morning Open Thread

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The Death Of Socrates
Jacques Louis David

He was a bastard, but a supremely talented bastard. Is there a better technician in all of art history?

I looked through a bunch of his works, looking for some softening of his crisp, almost arrogant technique. But I didn't see any trend. I was hoping to make some sweeping comment about how his strident political stances eased as he grew older and wiser. Unfortunately I think he was an opportunist until the end...embracing the Revolution, and then Napoleon when the wind shifted.

From The Met's web site....

Accused by the Athenian government of denying the gods and corrupting the young through his teachings, Socrates (469-399 B.C.) was offered the choice of renouncing his beliefs or dying by drinking a cup of hemlock. David shows him prepared to die and discoursing on the immortality of the soul with his grief-stricken disciples.

Painted in 1787 the picture, with its stoic theme, is perhaps David's most perfect Neoclassical statement. The printmaker and publisher John Boydell wrote to Sir Joshua Reynolds that it was "the greatest effort of art since the Sistine Chapel and the stanze of Raphael."

That's a tad too much hyperbole. The four Stanze in the Vatican are Raphael's greatest works, and grand in a way that even David couldn't compete with.

Posted by: CBD at 09:35 AM




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1 oro !!

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:29 AM (c6/9Q)

2 Dos!

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 06, 2017 09:30 AM (UOr6C)

3 Where is the vimen?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 09:30 AM (KlI/a)

4 th

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 09:30 AM (ELUpj)

5 Alternate subtitle: "Check, please!"

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 06, 2017 09:30 AM (UOr6C)

6 In before it is noted that this is really gay.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 09:30 AM (tewYv)

7 6th?

Posted by: Corona at April 06, 2017 09:30 AM (3/A/K)

8 Testing.

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 06, 2017 09:31 AM (xMu63)

9 Sniper under the bed.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 06, 2017 09:32 AM (ul9CR)

10 Ah there's nothing like a cup o' joe while staring at a painting of a bunch of half naked men. I was told there'd be Chinese lanterns.

Posted by: Corona at April 06, 2017 09:32 AM (3/A/K)

11 Hey, who's the old guy asleep at the foot of the bed?

"Hey, you, wake up! I'm about to drink hemlock here!"

Seriously though always loved this painting ~ and its meaning.

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 06, 2017 09:33 AM (UOr6C)

12 These people have really big hands.

In the White House, they have a copy of this hanging, but altered to give them all medium-big hands.

It's true, I saw some reporter tweet it.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 09:33 AM (tewYv)

13
Little known fact... Jacques David had an affinity for painting well groomed metrosexuals.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 06, 2017 09:33 AM (HTdUD)

14 Last Call.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Has Got it, Yeah Baby It's Got It at April 06, 2017 09:33 AM (hLRSq)

15 So, the big news:

Netflix officially moved over to the thumbs rating system on their streaming service.

I already hate it and will refuse to use it.

The DVD service seems to still use their 5 star system. I hope this remains.

There's absolutely nothing more important going on in the world, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 09:34 AM (ELUpj)

16 More Obama Legacy: Army General Says Startlingly Small Amount Of US Forces Could Fight An Enemy Today



Every time a democrat is control of the White House, the end result is a gutted U.S. military.

Weasel Zippers

Only three of 58 Army Brigade Combat Teams (BCT) would be available to respond to an enemy attack if one hypothetically happened tonight, according to the vice chief of staff of the Army.

Of the BCTs that are ready, only three could be called upon to fight tonight in the event of a crisis, Gen. Daniel Allyn told the House Committee on Armed Services during a hearing Wednesday.

A BCT usually numbers anywhere between 4,400 to 4,700 soldiers, meaning only approximately 13,500 troops would be ready to fight an enemy in the event of an emergency.

And the situation is pretty much like that across the board.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 09:34 AM (KlI/a)

17 Ah there's nothing like a cup o' joe while staring at a painting of a bunch of half naked men.

Everyone is naked. Under their clothes.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 09:34 AM (tewYv)

18 Also ~ is that the 10:00AM tour group in the far background?

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 06, 2017 09:34 AM (UOr6C)

19 excellent choice, but why was JL David un batard ? just your typical upper crust young man seduced by the revolution wanting the old regime DEAD

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:34 AM (c6/9Q)

20 blakehounshell
06/04/17 09:38
#BREAKING House intel chairman to step aside from Russia probe
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The Stupid Party

Posted by: EVLINC! at April 06, 2017 09:34 AM (y3aQB)

21 I'm sure all he was sipping was hemlock

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 06, 2017 09:34 AM (FZYNt)

22 So, he was ghey? No women friends to see him "off"?

Posted by: Raplh at April 06, 2017 09:34 AM (kREqP)

23 Socrates seems to be ranting about something or other: "And this hemlock sucks! Why couldn't you put it in ouzo or something ya freakin' imbeciles?!"

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at April 06, 2017 09:35 AM (RD7QR)

24 Whoa. Devin Nunes is stepping aside from the Russia investigation.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 09:35 AM (/tuJf)

25 #BREAKING House intel chairman to step aside from Russia probe
----
The Stupid Party


Jeebus.

Can't anybody here play this game?

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 09:35 AM (tewYv)

26 Gheyer than a Barry Manilow concert in a San Francisco bathhouse.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 06, 2017 09:36 AM (vRcUp)

27
Man slain in vehicular attack was Golani combat soldier
Sgt. Elchai Teharlev, 20, of the West Bank settlement of Talmon was killed by a Palestinian terrorist one year his senior at a bus stop near Ofra on Thursday morning. His mother is a psychologist, and his father is a rabbi and educator who supports religious female enlistment to the IDF.

Teharlev was a corporal at the time of his death. As is standard in the IDF, he was posthumously promoted one rank immediately after his death. His funeral was scheduled for 6:30pm on Thursday in Israels national cemetery on Mount Herzl.

His father, Rabbi Ohad Teharlev, is the head of MIdreshet Lindenbaum, a Jewish educational institution in Jerusalem. He is one of the leading rabbis who encourage religious women to enlist in the IDF. His mother, Avital Teharlev, is a psychologist.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 09:36 AM (KlI/a)

28 I drank what???

Didn't we do this one a while back?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 06, 2017 09:37 AM (7ZVPa)

29 On the other hand. Nunes could be plain old Republican stupid.

Or, since we know now that the Deep State is real, and spectacular, one wonders what they have on him.

Because you know that is coming next, right?

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 09:37 AM (tewYv)

30 Woody Allen has a hilarious mini-play about this incident in one of his books.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 06, 2017 09:38 AM (vRcUp)

31 Nunes steps aside. Yet another in the long string of unforced errors.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 06, 2017 09:39 AM (noWW6)

32 they are playing a game of bukkake. I suspect all of this stepping aside - Bannon included has a lot to do with getting Gorsuch enough votes. BUt who knows, that's just my outlandish theory

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:39 AM (c6/9Q)

33 >>>Can't anybody here play this game?

A rhetorical question, no doubt. You hand them the house, the senate and the presidency and they fuck it up. They wake up on the front lawn covered in feces and they have the nerve to blame US!

Posted by: Max Power at April 06, 2017 09:39 AM (QCc6B)

34 Mr.Met know's a lot about art...

Posted by: steevy at April 06, 2017 09:39 AM (r/0kC)

35 >>Or, since we know now that the Deep State is real, and spectacular, one wonders what they have on him.

His claim is that a few leftwing groups have filed ethics charges against him for his handling of intel on WH grounds before going the committee with the info and he doesn't want to get in the way of the investigation but he is staying on the committee and this is only temporary.

Sounds like maybe Gowdy is taking over temporarily. This is escalating fast.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 09:39 AM (/tuJf)

36 Devin Nunes is stepping aside from the Russia investigation.

(facepalm)

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 06, 2017 09:39 AM (ul9CR)

37 Done got willowed. Nuts.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 09:40 AM (0mRoj)

38
I drank what???


=====


Here the newest sample of our Santorini white...

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:40 AM (c6/9Q)

39 Didn't we do this one a while back?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 06, 2017 09:37 AM (7ZVPa)

Shut your whore mouth.

[ah...fvck. We did. I got lazy and didn't check.]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 06, 2017 09:40 AM (rF0hx)

40 Sounds like maybe Gowdy is taking over temporarily. This is escalating fast.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 09:39 AM (/tuJf)


Great. Gowdy.

Now things will get done.

Insert rolleyes emoticon here.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 09:40 AM (tewYv)

41 Oh boy, GOWDY is taking over?

Stand by for the phoneybaloney hearings.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 06, 2017 09:40 AM (ul9CR)

42
Budweiser? Feh!!!

Gimme a good boutique brewery beer every time.


Now, pass me that goblet of Athenian Acres' "Hemlock Happiness Double IPA".

There's a good lad.

Posted by: Socrates at April 06, 2017 09:41 AM (9q7Dl)

43 A Democrat would NEVER step aside.

Posted by: steevy at April 06, 2017 09:41 AM (r/0kC)

44 Test


Morning all. Having computer problems. So we'll see if this works. And on top of that I lost my HnR Block software will have to download another copy to wife's computer since they no longer support XP.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 06, 2017 09:42 AM (mpXpK)

45 21 I'm sure all he was sipping was hemlock
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 06, 2017 09:34 AM (FZYNt)

The finest single-malt hemlock, aged 18 years in sherry casks.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 09:42 AM (0mRoj)

46 A Democrat would NEVER step aside.
Posted by: steevy at April 06, 2017 09:41 AM (r/0kC)

Ain't that the truth!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 09:42 AM (KlI/a)

47 OK, working now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 06, 2017 09:42 AM (mpXpK)

48 Posted by: Raplh at April 06, 2017 09:34 AM (kREqP)

That's his wife leaving in the background. If I remember right, Plato is the old guy at the end of the bed.

Posted by: Kris at April 06, 2017 09:42 AM (nwqNw)

49 Hey! Those guys are wearing my artwork! Son of a bitch!

Posted by: Mark Rothko at April 06, 2017 09:43 AM (0mRoj)

50 His claim is that a few leftwing groups have filed ethics charges against him for his handling of intel on WH grounds before going the committee with the info and he doesn't want to get in the way of the investigation but he is staying on the committee and this is only temporary.

So, Congressman Nunes, you think the Lefties are going to drop their ethics charges?

You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha, you fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia," but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line!"

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 09:43 AM (tewYv)

51 "Army General Says Startlingly Small Amount Of US Forces Could Fight An Enemy Today "

Yes, maybe, but have seen all those new fangled doodads, gewgaws, and shiny brass badges the high command has deployed on their Class A's?

That aught to impress isis more than bullets and bombs.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at April 06, 2017 09:43 AM (d76uN)

52 They are just having John Glenn's Funneral today?

WTF have they been waiting for? For him to ripen?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 09:43 AM (KlI/a)

53 Nope, not Gowdy. Mike Conaway is taking over.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 09:43 AM (/tuJf)

54 Vic - was worried about you. Missed your noos last couple days.

You doing ok? And Mrs. Vic?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 06, 2017 09:43 AM (jxbfJ)

55 Moron.

Posted by: Vizzini at April 06, 2017 09:43 AM (0mRoj)

56 Honest to God last words?
"I owe a cock to Aesclapius."

Sumbitch sure looks like he owed cock to somebody.

FWIW, there is a historical Socrates, and then there is the character created in those wordy and clever drawing-room comedies by the playwright, Plato.
Not the same guy at all. And Socko was guilty, as charged, and admitted it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 06, 2017 09:44 AM (H5rtT)

57 53 Nope, not Gowdy. Mike Conaway is taking over.
Posted by: JackStraw

Might as well be Tim Conway

fuckin' joke

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 06, 2017 09:44 AM (FZYNt)

58 "I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said....'I drank what?'"

-Chris Knight

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 06, 2017 09:44 AM (p+Wdc)

59 Ryan holding news conference....



Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 09:44 AM (Enq6K)

60 The problem is not that the left does not accept Trump or his agenda as legitimate and worthy of support.

The problem is that the Republican Congress does not accept Trump or his agenda as legitimate and worthy of support.

Every one of those nickelfucking Cub Scout molesters (thanks MPPP!) thinks that they should be the ones leading not following their President's lead.

Damn them all.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at April 06, 2017 09:44 AM (+n6qf)

61 That's his wife leaving in the background. If I remember right, Plato is the old guy at the end of the bed.
Posted by: Kris

So she was there for one last gang bang?

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 06, 2017 09:44 AM (FZYNt)

62 repeat?

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 06, 2017 09:45 AM (0O7c5)

63 Ryan holding news conference....



Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 09:44 AM (Enq6K)


I am sure this will be confidence building.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 09:45 AM (tewYv)

64 Devin Nunes is stepping aside from the Russia investigation.

(facepalm)

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 06, 2017 09:39 AM (ul9CR)

So stupid, republicans suck at politics. They hate winning.

Posted by: spypeach at April 06, 2017 09:45 AM (u/r83)

65 Stand by for the phoneybaloney hearings.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 06, 2017 09:40 AM (ul9CR)

That is all you will get and like it!

Posted by: MAC-SOG at April 06, 2017 09:45 AM (QPdNE)

66 From Fox


Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is preparing to deploy the nuclear option to confirm Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 06, 2017 09:45 AM (mpXpK)

67 Ryan: We have made some real progress this week. Added high risk pools amendment that will get premiums down.


Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 09:46 AM (Enq6K)

68 66 From Fox


Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is preparing to deploy the nuclear option to confirm Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 06, 2017 09:45 AM (mpXpK)

=================

And may RBG decide to retire at the very moment the rule change happens.

If we pray hard enough, can we make it happen?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 09:46 AM (ELUpj)

69 I'll repeat the quote I posted in the last thread:

"Now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."

Posted by: Independent George at April 06, 2017 09:47 AM (BDZWU)

70 Have to say I am not a fan of this one -- the rigid angles of Socrates' body and arm are just uncomfortable. Similar to the 'Tennis Court' one. The angles are just jarring. I like the business continuing in the back and admire technique, but using the angles for emphasis just distracts; and becomes propoganda. The bathtub and Nappy on a horse are my favorites.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 09:47 AM (MIKMs)

71 69 I'll repeat the quote I posted in the last thread:

"Now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
Posted by: Independent George at April 06, 2017 09:47 AM (BDZWU)

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Spoken by the philosopher, as I call him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 09:47 AM (ELUpj)

72 "Much have I travell'd in the realms of gold,
And many goodly states and kingdoms seen;
Round many western islands have I been
Which bards in fealty to Apollo hold...."

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:47 AM (c6/9Q)

73 Mix the hemlock in some KoolAid, to make it taste better, like Jim Jones did.

Posted by: Things Liberals Think Socrates Said at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (ndGCC)

74 "I got no boobs. I bought this fAAAAbulous gown and the damn thing won't stay up.

I should look like Melania by now but I still got a beard. What's wrong with those damn hormone shots?"

Posted by: JEM at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (TppKb)

75 54
Vic - was worried about you. Missed your noos last couple days.

You doing ok? And Mrs. Vic?


Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 06, 2017 09:43 AM (jxbfJ)


Rocking chair had me but have Dr's appointment tomorrow so have to dry out..

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (mpXpK)

76 Socrates is dead? Dude!

Posted by: Bill S. Preston, Esquire at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (le7jz)

77 For some reason, Greek history has never interested me. I prefer Egyptian and Roman for my ancient world.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (X6fMO)

78 Oh, FFS! The whole Russia BS narrative was being turned in our favor, and now the focus will be on Numb-nuts stepping down.

Doesn't anyone on this team know how to play baseball?!?

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (7HtZB)

79 Let me guess---Devin Nunes has never paid attention to politics before. His saintly grandmother was an FDR Democrat, and he just arrived in Washington for the first time this week.

Dammit. Why does our side keep taking a pet hamster to a knife fight?

Posted by: Furious George at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (j+dfT)

80
"Now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."

Posted by: Independent George



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nope

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (c6/9Q)

81 Socrates is built like a soldier. That always cracks me up.

When I was in Paris, the tomb of Napoleon made me want to barf. He's depicted in a multiple of statues as a god-like Cesar bestowing blessings on the poor, children, etc. The scale of his statue versus theirs is noticeably larger, like he should have been six feet tall.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (G8B7r)

82 Socrates was a hero of many Enlightenment philosophers. David is painting him as a martyred victim of reason at the hands of the "superstitious" status quo. It's mostly all dudes because David was a chauvinist who believed Revolution was Man's Work. Only men had Reason. Women were weak and emotional.

Posted by: Kris at April 06, 2017 09:49 AM (nwqNw)

83 Put a shot of ouzo in it and it's not too bad.

Posted by: BignJames at April 06, 2017 09:49 AM (x9c8r)

84 My conservative congressman is a total fucking idiot, however, he's been an idiot his entire life.

What is it with Washington that makes other, relatively normal or even mildly smart people turn into idiots when they are elected as republicans?

Why is it so hard for them to understand that if they buckle under pressure from the liberal press, they will always lose?

Fuck.

Posted by: jwest at April 06, 2017 09:50 AM (Zs4uk)

85 Doesn't anyone on this team know how to play baseball?!?

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (7HtZB)


No.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at April 06, 2017 09:50 AM (d76uN)

86 67
Ryan: We have made some real progress this week. Added high risk pools amendment that will get premiums down.




Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 09:46 AM (Enq6K)

Probably go up for my wife then.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 06, 2017 09:50 AM (mpXpK)

87 77 For some reason, Greek history has never interested me. I prefer Egyptian and Roman for my ancient world.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (X6fMO)

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Maybe because Greek history is a bit scant.

More detail, that is completely lost to time, might have changed that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 09:50 AM (ELUpj)

88 Dude has a few too many men in togas hanging around in his bedroom not to be gay.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 06, 2017 09:50 AM (JZdsf)

89 You had one job!

Posted by: Socrates at April 06, 2017 09:50 AM (NF2Bf)

90 I'll take my hemlock neat.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 09:50 AM (0mRoj)

91 Nunes stepping asides basically gives credence to the charge that he acted improperly. That's how it will be spun.

The donks have their scalp, there will be more.


The GOP is an illigitmate politcal party.

Useless cunts.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 06, 2017 09:51 AM (s1SXz)

92 The bathtub and Nappy on a horse are my favorites.

A dead Marat is a good Marat, of course.

The Napoleon-on-horseback thing is phony as a three-dollar bill. Dramatic, but phony.

Posted by: JEM at April 06, 2017 09:51 AM (TppKb)

93 >>Oh, FFS! The whole Russia BS narrative was being turned in our favor, and now the focus will be on Numb-nuts stepping down.

>>Doesn't anyone on this team know how to play baseball?!?

There is another way to view this. All the Democrats had was to go after Nunes for "improperly" viewing and releasing info on the probe to the WH. And they have been, endlessly. They no longer have that weapon.

The investigation isn't ending and Nunes isn't leaving the committee, he's just stepping aside as the chairman temporarily.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 09:51 AM (/tuJf)

94 I can't even. I tried to even but then I couldn't, and still can't. Seriously, I need to follow baseball or shoot heroin or something. Because I can't even, that's for sure.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at April 06, 2017 09:51 AM (RD7QR)

95 So who is the guy sitting at the foot of the bed?

Posted by: Larry Geiger at April 06, 2017 09:52 AM (QpgDv)

96 Maybe because Greek history is a bit scant.



More detail, that is completely lost to time, might have changed that.

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I told them to go digital, they wouldn't listen

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:52 AM (c6/9Q)

97 Socrates is dead? Dude!
_______________________

Dude! That was like two years ago bro!

Posted by: Tommy Campaign Bus Driver Vietor at April 06, 2017 09:52 AM (FqgrG)

98 The best thing about Egyptian and Roman history is that it was written by Greeks.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 06, 2017 09:52 AM (H5rtT)

99 96 I told them to go digital, they wouldn't listen
Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:52 AM (c6/9Q)

=================

"We like our tablets analog, thank you very much."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 09:52 AM (ELUpj)

100 I can't wait for the RNC to call again for money...

Posted by: jwest at April 06, 2017 09:52 AM (Zs4uk)

101 There is another way to view this. All the Democrats had was to go after Nunes for "improperly" viewing and releasing info on the probe to the WH. And they have been, endlessly. They no longer have that weapon.

Let me know when the Dems play that way.

No, the weapon they have now is that Nunes was tainted and the whole investigation is tainted and Obama is awesome!

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 09:52 AM (tewYv)

102 Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (G8B7r)

You may be interested (not really) in Horatio Greenough's statue of George Washington, then. Modeled after a statue of Zeus, it was rejected by the people who ordered it. LOL. Hero worship is a helluva thing.

Posted by: Kris at April 06, 2017 09:52 AM (nwqNw)

103 88
Dude has a few too many men in togas hanging around in his bedroom not to be gay.



Just sayin'

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 06, 2017 09:50 AM (JZdsf)

Got a problem with free-ballin'?

Posted by: Scottsmen in kilts everywhere at April 06, 2017 09:53 AM (jxbfJ)

104 The Death Of Socrates
Jacques Louis David



I thought it was Barry Manilow's coming out party

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 06, 2017 09:53 AM (493sH)

105 Ryan now taking questions from the press.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 09:53 AM (Enq6K)

106 Socrates is built like a soldier. That always cracks me up.





They all look like they just got back from the gym.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 06, 2017 09:53 AM (R5V4T)

107 101 There is another way to view this. All the Democrats had was to go after Nunes for "improperly" viewing and releasing info on the probe to the WH. And they have been, endlessly. They no longer have that weapon.

Let me know when the Dems play that way.

No, the weapon they have now is that Nunes was tainted and the whole investigation is tainted and Obama is awesome!
Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 09:52 AM (tewYv)

Yep. I'm tired of the GOP being a bunch of pussies.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 09:53 AM (0mRoj)

108 If they were so smart, how come they didn't invent clothes?
They all be hanging around in bed sheets and togas.
Don't even have pockets.

Posted by: Roland THTG at April 06, 2017 09:54 AM (QM5S2)

109 >>>>>>Oh, FFS! The whole Russia BS narrative was being turned in our
favor, and now the focus will be on Numb-nuts stepping down.



>>Doesn't anyone on this team know how to play baseball?!?



There is another way to view this. All the Democrats had was to go
after Nunes for "improperly" viewing and releasing info on the probe to
the WH. And they have been, endlessly. They no longer have that weapon.



The investigation isn't ending and Nunes isn't leaving the committee, he's just stepping aside as the chairman temporarily.
.
.
.Yep, he is taking away the only weapon they have right now. I am not saying they won't go and make up more $hit, but he just pulled the rug right out from underneath of them.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 06, 2017 09:54 AM (le7jz)

110 INteresting that they had the same fate planned for Aristotle, but he realized the better part of valor...and fled

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:54 AM (c6/9Q)

111 Leonidas? GREEK!
Alexander? GREEK!
Ptolemy? GREEK!
Cleopatra? GREEK!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 06, 2017 09:54 AM (JZdsf)

112 >>Let me know when the Dems play that way.

I don't expect them to play fair or smart. They never do.

But the genie is out of the bottle in regard to Rice and spying by the Obama WH and nothing they can say or do is going to stop that. All this does is remove an avenue of attack they had.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 09:55 AM (/tuJf)

113 Ryan: We have made some real progress this week. Added high risk pools amendment that will get premiums down.


Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 09:46 AM (Enq6K)



They did something that accomplishes nothing

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 06, 2017 09:55 AM (493sH)

114 Socrates is dead? Dude!

2016 took so many people

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 06, 2017 09:55 AM (FZYNt)

115 105
Ryan now taking questions from the press.


Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 09:53 AM (Enq6K)

he's on a quest to find a consensus....

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 06, 2017 09:55 AM (0O7c5)

116 "So stupid, republicans suck at politics. They hate winning."

The Daniel Greenfield piece linked in Sefton's Morning Report post earlier today is must reading.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 06, 2017 09:55 AM (noWW6)

117 INteresting that they had the same fate planned for Aristotle, but he realized the better part of valor...and fled

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:54 AM (c6/9Q)


I know. Socrates is all famous, and who ever heard of this Aristotle nobody?

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 09:55 AM (tewYv)

118 Greeks didn't wear togas.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 06, 2017 09:55 AM (H5rtT)

119 Man, Kevin Brady is short. Like munchkin short.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 09:55 AM (Enq6K)

120 So she was there for one last gang bang?

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that. . .

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 06, 2017 09:56 AM (X6fMO)

121 Hear me, Tinnitis.

Be not rash, Syphilis!

Nor irritated, Epidermis.

Posted by: Socrates at April 06, 2017 09:56 AM (4AVeu)

122 If Kevin Brady put rubber on his head would he look more or less like a little penis?

Posted by: Under Fire at April 06, 2017 09:56 AM (nN3W/)

123 111 Leonidas? GREEK!
Alexander? GREEK!
Ptolemy? GREEK!
Cleopatra? GREEK!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)

I knew a hooker once that did Greek

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 06, 2017 09:56 AM (FZYNt)

124 So far, General Flynn has resigned and AG Sessions & Rep. Nunes has recused themselves over the "Russia hacked the elections" nonsense. Meanwhile, the people responsible for illegally unmasking & leaking names of Trump's team to the press are sitting pretty. What the living fuck will it take?

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 09:56 AM (7HtZB)

125 But the genie is out of the bottle in regard to Rice and spying by the Obama WH and nothing they can say or do is going to stop that.

CNN says "nanananana I can't hear you!"

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 09:56 AM (tewYv)

126 121
Hear me, Tinnitis.



Be not rash, Syphilis!



Nor irritated, Epidermis.

Posted by: Socrates at April 06, 2017 09:56 AM (4AVeu)

Golf clap.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 06, 2017 09:56 AM (jxbfJ)

127 Doesn't anyone on this team know how to play baseball?!?

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 09:48 AM (7HtZB)


We should play politics like Bob Gibson played Baseball. High Hard and Inside!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 09:56 AM (KlI/a)

128 Yanni ? GREEK !

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:56 AM (c6/9Q)

129 Venus d' Milo ? GREEK !

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:57 AM (c6/9Q)

130
Nunes a 'distraction' wants to 'clear himself' per Ryan.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 06, 2017 09:57 AM (HTdUD)

131 He's pointing at the sniper on the ceiling.

Posted by: Dang at April 06, 2017 09:57 AM (8b+oT)

132 The Napoleon-on-horseback thing is phony as a three-dollar bill. Dramatic, but phony.
Posted by: JEM at April 06, 2017 09:51 AM (TppKb)

Check out the one by Paul Delaroche. Painted as a direct response to David's propaganda.

Posted by: Kris at April 06, 2017 09:58 AM (nwqNw)

133 Got a problem with free-ballin'?

Oh, screw you. Now I've got that stupid Tom Petty song running through my head.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 06, 2017 09:58 AM (X6fMO)

134 Nike ? GREEK !

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 09:58 AM (c6/9Q)

135 The guy who blew the Pan Flute....GREEK!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 06, 2017 09:58 AM (J+eG2)

136 Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 09:51 AM (/tuJf)
===
Ok . But why isn't anyone calling for crazed radical Schiff to step down?

I know Hannity abuse is a popular sport here, played it myself, but he was calling for it last night - and no one else is.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at April 06, 2017 09:58 AM (0DkDf)

137 [Ii]I looked through a bunch of his works, looking for some softening of his crisp, almost arrogant technique.

We talking about the artist or wine?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 06, 2017 09:58 AM (0tfLf)

138 FWIW, there is a historical Socrates, and then there is the character created in those wordy and clever drawing-room comedies by the playwright, Plato...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 06, 2017 09:44 AM (H5rtT)



S: I say, Demetrius!

D: Yes, Socrates.

S: Why is your bum like a chicken coop filled only with hens?

D: Why is my bum like a chicken coop filled only with hens???

S: Yes. Why, I queried you, is your bum like a chicken coop filled only with hens?

D: I don't know, Socrates. Why is my bum like a chicken coop filled only with hens?

S: (raises index finger) Because it needs a cock in it!

*applause*

*standing ovation*

Posted by: Witty Socrates - A Play by Plato at April 06, 2017 09:58 AM (9q7Dl)

139 In fairness any and every development in this administration and in Washington is seen as confirmation of the #RussiaGate conspiracy. They are deep banana noo-noo crazy with their confirmation bias.

Posted by: Max Power at April 06, 2017 09:59 AM (QCc6B)

140
Ryan finished. Speaking, that is.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 06, 2017 09:59 AM (HTdUD)

141 Dude with his hand on his thigh is getting a little bit too familiar. And who is the guy in the background waving to?

Posted by: Fritz at April 06, 2017 09:59 AM (2Mnv1)

142 Got a problem with free-ballin'?

Oh, screw you. Now I've got that stupid Tom Petty song running through my head.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke



♪ Freeeeeee-ballinnnnn

Posted by: rickb223 at April 06, 2017 10:00 AM (R5V4T)

143 >>Ok . But why isn't anyone calling for crazed radical Schiff to step down?

>>I know Hannity abuse is a popular sport here, played it myself, but he was calling for it last night - and no one else is.

According to Nunes, leftwing activists filed ethics charges against him and he wants to clear those up before retaking the chairmanship so as not to be a distraction to the investigation.

Anyone can file ethics charges not just Congressman. So who's going to the Ethics Committee to file charges?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 10:00 AM (/tuJf)

144 Hear me, Tinnitis.



Be not rash, Syphilis!



Nor irritated, Epidermis.

Posted by: Socrates at April 06, 2017 09:56 AM (4AVeu)


Old joke: a man walks into a Greek tailor shop and holds up a torn pair of pants. He asks, "Eumenides?"

"Yes,"
the tailor replies. "Euripides?"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 06, 2017 10:00 AM (X6fMO)

145 There is another way to view this. All the Democrats had was to go after Nunes for "improperly" viewing and releasing info on the probe to the WH. And they have been, endlessly. They no longer have that weapon.

The investigation isn't ending and Nunes isn't leaving the committee, he's just stepping aside as the chairman temporarily.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 09:51 AM (/tuJf)

You can put JackStraw down as not know how to play the game.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at April 06, 2017 10:00 AM (WVeiZ)

146 Delaroche's alpine Napoleon:
http://tinyurl.com/kk2ltkv

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 06, 2017 10:01 AM (H5rtT)

147 And who is the guy in the background waving to?
Posted by: Fritz at April 06, 2017 09:59 AM (2Mnv1)

That's the wife. She's waving at you.

Posted by: Kris at April 06, 2017 10:01 AM (nwqNw)

148 Saganaki ? GREEK!

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:01 AM (c6/9Q)

149
Ethics charges. The Sarah Palin playbook resurfaces.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 06, 2017 10:01 AM (HTdUD)

150 Repubs just don't have the stomach for a fight anymore.

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at April 06, 2017 10:01 AM (zRZaJ)

151 Posted by: Witty Socrates - A Play by Plato




Golf. Clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 06, 2017 10:02 AM (R5V4T)

152 He is now officially "disgraced" or " discredited" from now on.

Posted by: steevy at April 06, 2017 10:02 AM (r/0kC)

153 The Napoleon-on-horseback thing is phony as a three-dollar bill. Dramatic, but phony.
=====

I know, that is why I like it. Irony can be a thing. Socrates and the Tennis Court are too earnest -- almost juvenile.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 10:02 AM (MIKMs)

154 I see the resident GOPe water carriers/insiders a babbling happy talk and nonsense.

Nunes stepping aside is a mistake, it give the MSM and donks an avenue of attack and affords them an opportunity to deflect on Susan Rice and the other spying conspirators.

This has all the earmarks of "leadership" giving in to pressure and forcing Nunes aside.

Again this is stupid.

Also I notice that the only bit of legislation that's been signed into law by Trump is a bill to let your browsing history to be sold.

And the debt ceiling hits on April 28th and congress is taking most of April off, returning on the 25th so you know what that means....

Posted by: Kreplach at April 06, 2017 10:02 AM (s1SXz)

155 Saganaki ? GREEK!

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:01 AM (c6/9Q)


You just can't get Tsaganaki here.

Go to a Greek diner, they don't have.

But you want some stuffed grape leaves? That they got.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:02 AM (tewYv)

156 Nunes stepping aside.

I am so sick of these republican a-holes.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 06, 2017 10:03 AM (HiDrR)

157 Also I notice that the only bit of legislation that's been signed into law by Trump is a bill to let your browsing history to be sold.

Well, that isn't true.

Actually there has been some good legislation passed and he signed it.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:03 AM (tewYv)

158 @138 You may well laugh, but in fresh translation a lot of the quips in the dialogues are just about that outrageous. And some that are mined hard for their Platonic content are just that, throwaway lines that are in there to set the mood and advance the plot. They're minimalist plays, not meant to be dry.

Father Cornford did what he could to take the jokes out. But they're in there.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 06, 2017 10:04 AM (H5rtT)

159 Michael Fitzpatrick, and Patrick Fitzmichael?



GREEK!!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 06, 2017 10:04 AM (J+eG2)

160 @157

What legislation would that be?

Posted by: Kreplach at April 06, 2017 10:04 AM (s1SXz)

161 I see the resident GOPe water carriers/insiders a babbling happy talk and nonsense.

Dude ... I haven't said a word.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 06, 2017 10:05 AM (BHaRb)

162 Nunes stepping down, however temporarily, gives credence to the charges. Undeserved credence, but still credence.

And now that's the story.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 06, 2017 10:05 AM (tVWQB)

163 "Men, we must fight for our right to buggery!"

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 06, 2017 10:05 AM (zQ1pD)

164 "So far, General Flynn has resigned and AG Sessions Rep. Nunes has
recused themselves over the 'Russia hacked the elections' nonsense."

Plus, Trump abruptly sacked Bannon from the NSC, because precious princess Ivanka and her husband think Bannon is a big meanie who is ruining everything.

Furthering the narrative of "an administration in severe internal turmoil, unable to govern", to the absolute delight of the wing of the Democratic Party called the news media.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 06, 2017 10:05 AM (noWW6)

165 A large part of how Trump got where he is, was by never apologizing and never surrendering. Just like the Dems.

I had hoped that spirit would spread to the GOPe.

I should have my head examined for even hoping.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 06, 2017 10:05 AM (ul9CR)

166 My opinion -- and it is just an opinion -- is that his painting captures the five stages of grief before they were formally described by psychologists as the Kubler-Ross model.

Starting from right to left (which is the way Greek text was read) you see the subjects engaged in denial (far right), anger, bargaining (Socrates himself), depression (guy with the bowl of hemlock) and acceptance (old guy who appears dead at foot of bed.)

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 06, 2017 10:06 AM (4AVeu)

167 And the debt ceiling hits on April 28th and congress is taking most of
April off, returning on the 25th so you know what that means....
=====

The (R) Budget Guru will broker another continuing resolution that blows up any semblance of a budget and fiscal responsibility.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 10:06 AM (MIKMs)

168 >>I see the resident GOPe water carriers/insiders a babbling happy talk and nonsense.

Yes, yes. You found me out.

Will you be enjoying the Senate going nuclear and putting Gorsuch on the Court is that GOPe water carrier/insider babble?

Sometimes it actually helps to follow what's going on instead of living in a perpetual state of rage. But you do you.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 10:06 AM (/tuJf)

169 You just can't get Tsaganaki here.



Go to a Greek diner, they don't have.



But you want some stuffed grape leaves? That they got.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:02 AM (tewYv)

did you try'em ? how'd they taste ? rich ? filling ?

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:07 AM (c6/9Q)

170 "I should have my head examined for even hoping."

Another look at phrenology?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 06, 2017 10:07 AM (J+eG2)

171 Take my life, please!

Posted by: Henny Socrates at April 06, 2017 10:07 AM (IqV8l)

172 Greek is read right-to-left? This is new to me.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 06, 2017 10:08 AM (H5rtT)

173 158 @138 You may well laugh, but in fresh translation a lot of the quips in the dialogues are just about that outrageous. And some that are mined hard for their Platonic content are just that, throwaway lines that are in there to set the mood and advance the plot. They're minimalist plays, not meant to be dry.

Father Cornford did what he could to take the jokes out. But they're in there.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 06, 2017 10:04 AM (H5rtT)



I guess that's no surprise.

Aristophanes is one of my faves...as anyone who's read "Wearing the Cat" could probably tell you.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 06, 2017 10:08 AM (9q7Dl)

174 Take my life, please!
Posted by: Henny Socrates at April 06, 2017 10:07 AM (IqV8l)


Golf. Clap.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 06, 2017 10:08 AM (BHaRb)

175 Evidently, K. McMorris-Rogers role in the GOPe is to stand next to Pauline Ryan and project a serious face. She really is an idiot throne sniffing scrunt.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 06, 2017 10:09 AM (nN3W/)

176 "Ordinary people seem not to realize that those who really apply themselves in the right way to philosophy are directly and of their own accord preparing themselves for dying and death. And you, there, in the red toga. Suck my crank, willya?"

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 06, 2017 10:09 AM (zQ1pD)

177 Plus, Trump abruptly sacked Bannon from the NSC, because precious
princess Ivanka and her husband think Bannon is a big meanie who is
ruining everything.



"[Obama administration National Security Adviser] Susan Rice operationalized the NSC during the last administration," Bannon said in a statement. "I was put on to ensure that it was de-operationalized. [National Security Adviser] General [H.R.] McMaster has returned the NSC to its proper function."

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 10:10 AM (Enq6K)

178 And, of course:

"Pull my finger!"

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 06, 2017 10:10 AM (zQ1pD)

179 Look, I get JackStraw, not everything the GOP does is completely stupid, and sometimes hands are forced, and sometimes there are not good choices.

But let's take a look at how the game is played.

Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey was the Dems lead to call for an investigation of the Trump tweets about wiretapping.

You remember Senator Menendez. The Senator who is under indictment right now for corruption.

Yeah, that Senator Menendez. Who has recused himself from NOT. ONE. THING.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:10 AM (tewYv)

180 "Ahhhh...the French..."

Posted by: Corona at April 06, 2017 10:11 AM (3/A/K)

181 Schifty ---another pos.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 06, 2017 10:11 AM (HiDrR)

182 Fucking Nunes steps down.


Fuck fuck fuck. Stop giving in to the fucking leftists dammit!

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at April 06, 2017 10:12 AM (2x9LM)

183 PRO TIP: Before you invite friends over, be sure to remember to slide the manacles under the bed.

AWKWARD!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 06, 2017 10:12 AM (JZdsf)

184 Nunes stepping aside.

I am so sick of these republican a-holes.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 06, 2017 10:03 AM (HiDrR)



The gutless party strikes again. Meanwhile the Dems could run for office in jail and get elected

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 06, 2017 10:12 AM (493sH)

185 Huh.

So today I hear in the news that Jeb Bush is bidding to buy the Florida Marlins. Sorry, the Miami Marlins.

Can't wait to see what he'd do as an owner. "Letting the other team steal bases on you is an act of love."

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 06, 2017 10:12 AM (hNNJ5)

186 Schiff already dancing on Nunes Dick.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 06, 2017 10:12 AM (nN3W/)

187 did you try'em ? how'd they taste ? rich ? filling ?

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:07 AM (c6/9Q)


Didn't want stinking dolmades, want some tsaganaki!

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:12 AM (tewYv)

188 the pressure is not coming from the left, it is the likes of McCain who want things (Bannon removal? Nunes removal?) and holding up their Gorsuch vote

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:12 AM (c6/9Q)

189 I'm buying the Florida Marlins!

Please do the wave.

Posted by: ¡Jeb! at April 06, 2017 10:12 AM (vRcUp)

190 Can't wait to see what he'd do as an owner. "Letting the other team steal bases on you is an act of love."

He can be "Clappy," the mascot.

Please clap.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 06, 2017 10:13 AM (X6fMO)

191 Didn't want stinking dolmades, want some tsaganaki!

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:12 AM (tewYv)

tsaganaki is not ready, but we have a sample of some very good young Santorini white..

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:13 AM (c6/9Q)

192 Schiff already dancing on Nunes Dick.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 06, 2017 10:12 AM (nN3W/)


He hasn't read JackStraw's post yet. Once he does, he will realize that he has no weapons, and will have to concede.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:13 AM (tewYv)

193 Lotsa feet in this. But no Uma feet. Big thumbs down.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at April 06, 2017 10:14 AM (vRcUp)

194 Accused by the Athenian government of denying the gods and corrupting the young through his teachings, Socrates
___
Hey the Science was settled and Socrates was being a denier, what can we say?

Posted by: The Athenian government at April 06, 2017 10:14 AM (aZq03)

195 tsaganaki is not ready, but we have a sample of some very good young Santorini white..

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:13 AM (c6/9Q)


Would rather hemlock than that friggin retsina and Coke.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:14 AM (tewYv)

196
According to Nunes, leftwing activists filed ethics charges against him and he wants to clear those up before retaking the chairmanship so as not to be a distraction to the investigation.

Anyone can file ethics charges not just Congressman. So who's going to the Ethics Committee to file charges?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017
====

So yet another fork in the road of endless show trials. Will we ever get inside their OODA loop?

Trump is sifting through intel to decide if we are justified in spilling American blood to repair Barky's Syrian Fuckup , and our feckless self pitying Congressional fucktards can't be bothered to cover his back in a bullshit investigation, predicated on bullshit, soaked in bullshit and producing more bullshit as it squat-lurches ever onward to pointlessness.

And then McCain. I'd rather lose the majority in theSenate than have that asshole "on our side".






Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at April 06, 2017 10:14 AM (0DkDf)

197 Civil war getting warmer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aECqkALa8rI

Thug pulls out ar-15 on Trump supporter

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 06, 2017 10:15 AM (HTdUD)

198 "I was put on to ensure that it was
de-operationalized. [National Security Adviser] General [H.R.] McMaster
has returned the NSC to its proper function."

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 10:10 AM (Enq6K)

This is a great talking point to explain it, but shockingly, the MSM has ignored it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 06, 2017 10:15 AM (rF0hx)

199 >>Yeah, that Senator Menendez. Who has recused himself from NOT. ONE. THING.

Nunes hasn't recused himself from the committee, he just temporarily stepped aside as chairman and handed it over to another Republican.

Won't really have any affect on the investigation, just removes a club from the Democrats hands. Now they can't say the investigation is being led by someone under the cloud of multiple ethics complaints. That is what is known as playing the game.

Tell me, what has Menedez accomplished lately cause I haven't heard much noise from him since he went after Obama over Cuba.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 10:15 AM (/tuJf)

200 the pressure is not coming from the left, it is the likes of McCain who want things (Bannon removal? Nunes removal?) and holding up their Gorsuch vote

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:12 AM (c6/9Q)


FIFY

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:15 AM (tewYv)

201 And double on top of it my stereo receiver has torn up.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 06, 2017 10:16 AM (mpXpK)

202
So today I hear in the news that Jeb Bush is bidding to buy the Florida Marlins. Sorry, the Miami Marlins.

Can't wait to see what he'd do as an owner.


All the players will be from south of the border.
They are more fertile hitters.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 06, 2017 10:16 AM (IqV8l)

203 Would rather hemlock than that friggin retsina and Coke.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:14 AM (tewYv)

how 'bout some lovely Mavrodaphne ?

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:16 AM (c6/9Q)

204 And then McCain. I'd rather lose the majority in theSenate than have that asshole "on our side".

That fucker needs a hot sandpaper enema.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 06, 2017 10:16 AM (X6fMO)

205 According to Nunes, leftwing activists filed ethics charges against him and he wants to clear those up before retaking the chairmanship so as not to be a distraction to the investigation.

Anyone can file ethics charges not just Congressman. So who's going to the Ethics Committee to file charges?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 10:00 AM (/tuJf)

As I understand it, he is not relingushing the Chairmanship, just recusing himself from the Russian thing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 10:16 AM (KlI/a)

206 the pressure is not coming from the left, it is the likes of McCain who want things (Bannon removal? Nunes removal?) and holding up their Gorsuch vote



So. The left.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 06, 2017 10:16 AM (R5V4T)

207
And then Socrates said "I drank what???"

Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 06, 2017 10:17 AM (XWkhW)

208
You put the hemlock in the coconut and ya' mix it all up...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 06, 2017 10:17 AM (HSmrB)

209 I got willowed.

You cold, unfeeling bastards.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 06, 2017 10:17 AM (B+qrE)

210 >>As I understand it, he is not relingushing the Chairmanship, just recusing himself from the Russian thing

Yep.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 10:17 AM (/tuJf)

211
Won't really have any affect on the investigation, just removes a club from the Democrats hands.

From their left hand to their right hand.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 06, 2017 10:17 AM (IqV8l)

212 And double on top of it my stereo receiver has torn up.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 06, 2017 10:16 AM (mpXpK)


That Tom Edison. Freakin' crook, right Vic?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 06, 2017 10:17 AM (X6fMO)

213 And then McCain. I'd rather lose the majority in theSenate than have that asshole "on our side".

No you wouldn't..If we did not have the majority, as useless as it seems sometimes, we could not go nuclear on Gorsuch. And for the record McStain is supporting going Nuclear for what it is worth

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 10:17 AM (KlI/a)

214 "The gutless party strikes again. Meanwhile the Dems could run for office in jail and get elected"


I know, right?

Posted by: Zombie Marion Barry at April 06, 2017 10:17 AM (J+eG2)

215 124 So far, General Flynn has resigned and AG Sessions & Rep. Nunes has recused themselves over the "Russia hacked the elections" nonsense. Meanwhile, the people responsible for illegally unmasking & leaking names of Trump's team to the press are sitting pretty. What the living fuck will it take?
Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 09:56 AM (7HtZB)


THIS.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 06, 2017 10:18 AM (TdMsT)

216 FIFY

Posted by: blaster

===

thanks ! been busy waiting tables, did not notice my mistake...

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:18 AM (c6/9Q)

217 And to noones surprise the sirens and breaking news of Nunes stepping down everywhere.

Donks out crowing, demanding more blood.

Tailor made excuse to focus coverage on Nunes and away from Rice.

Fucking brilliant move GOPe, fucking brilliant.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 06, 2017 10:18 AM (s1SXz)

218 Nunes stepping down has helped Hippy Dippy Coworker believe that the entire investigation is a sham, proven because Nunes had to step down.

And when the next Chairman comes up and gets manufactured ethics complaints, he'll have to step down.

One thing I've learned over the years...if you let someone else dictate your personnel, you aren't in control of much of anything.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 06, 2017 10:18 AM (PFy0L)

219 blaster, have you tried asking the waiter if the chef could make some? It's worth a shot. Maybe that's something that most Greek diners don't offer because it's hard to get the kefalotiri cheese here.


My favorite ouzeria in Athens made a magnificent tsaganaki, and bekris medze. And a gorgeous shrimp dish with tomatoes and feta, broiled.

Mercy, now I'm hungry.

Posted by: moki at April 06, 2017 10:19 AM (wuzmq)

220 So Nunes has Ethics complaints.

Okay kids, you know what to do.

Adam Schiff, California, Ranking Member
Jim Himes, Connecticut
Terri Sewell, Alabama
André Carson, Indiana
Jackie Speier, California
Mike Quigley, Illinois
Eric Swalwell, California
Joaquin Castro, Texas
Denny Heck, Washington

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:20 AM (tewYv)

221 >>>the pressure is not coming from the left, it is the likes of McCain who want things (Bannon removal? Nunes removal?) and holding up their Gorsuch vote

Ahh, that is something. It's Trump vs. the establishment all over again.

Posted by: Max Power at April 06, 2017 10:20 AM (QCc6B)

222 My recollection is that the reason that Athens condemned Socrates to death was rather more complicated then generally discussed.

Remember he was about 70 when he was sentenced so Athens had long been ok with his beliefs and methods.

What had changed is that Athens lost the Peloponnesian war, and had a Spartan friendly government enforced on them. And Socrates was more of a fan of the Spartan method of government and culture then the Athenian...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 06, 2017 10:20 AM (aZq03)

223 "'[Obama administration National Security Adviser] Susan Rice
operationalized the NSC during the last administration,' Bannon said in a
statement. 'I was put on to ensure that it was de-operationalized.'"

Bannon also said that it was "nonsense" that he had reportedly threatened to quit over being let go from his NSC seat. At the very same time that Bannon backers are being quoted by name on the newswires describing him as having been furious and ready to quit.

ADMINISTRATION IN CHAOS! FILM AT ELEVEN.

To repeat an obvious point, the newshounds have to be rolling on the floor in absolute glee over what this White House is doing to itself every day.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 06, 2017 10:20 AM (noWW6)

224 Throughout Greek history, people who drank hemlock generally expected to die.

Posted by: Neal Tyson, But You Can Call Me Ashley at April 06, 2017 10:20 AM (97XyN)

225 Goddam you tinnitus! You're a cruel mistress!

Posted by: Sterling Archer at April 06, 2017 10:21 AM (FqgrG)

226 Ahh, that is something. It's Trump vs. the establishment all over again.

Posted by: Max Power at April 06, 2017 10:20 AM (QCc6B)

yes. just look at who had to step aside

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:21 AM (c6/9Q)

227 11 Hey, who's the old guy asleep at the foot of the bed?

Food-taster?

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at April 06, 2017 10:21 AM (XsvhI)

228 @moki yes I ask. I was at one diner and they made it for me, it was off menu.

For me, souvlaki and fries, and tsaganaki.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:21 AM (tewYv)

229 224 Throughout Greek history, people who drank hemlock generally expected to die.
Posted by: Neal Tyson, But You Can Call Me Ashley at April 06, 2017 10:20 AM (97XyN)

=================

"Sign my tits! Your such a genius!"
-Very smart college student who's struggling with their core classes but acing that gender studies course

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 10:22 AM (ELUpj)

230 They're isolating Trump.

This sends a message. If you dig too deep, if you insist on rocking the boat, we'll freeze you out.

This is a sweet little set-up they've got going. Dems throw the bombs with no fear of reprisal - while Establishment Repubs let selected ones through to get rid of party rivals. Just a different version of the game that was played the last eight years.

My guess ... they just keep this up until Trump is totally surrounded by Establishment Players. Then he either succumbs to their influence ... or he's out.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 06, 2017 10:23 AM (BHaRb)

231 "Jackie Speier, California"

The very notion of Jackie on an intelligence committee is one of those fundamental contradictions in terms. She makes Babs Boxer appear deeply cerebral by comparison.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 06, 2017 10:23 AM (noWW6)

232 Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow she'll be brandishing a restraining order.

Posted by: Fritz at April 06, 2017 10:23 AM (2Mnv1)

233 At the very same time that Bannon backers are being quoted by name on
the newswires describing him as having been furious and ready to quit.




Exactly who are these 'Bannon backers' that are being quoted on the newswires.


Besides, he still has his clearance and can sit in any time he wants.


Newswires.....

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 10:24 AM (Enq6K)

234 224 Throughout Greek history, people who drank hemlock generally expected to die.
Posted by: Neal Tyson, But You Can Call Me Ashley at April 06, 2017 10:20 AM (97XyN)


"Bleach keeps you young so I've been told
'Cause no one who drinks it lives to get old"

The Dead Milkmen

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 10:24 AM (7HtZB)

235
What had changed is that Athens lost the Peloponnesian war, and had a Spartan friendly government enforced on them. And Socrates was more of a fan of the Spartan method of government and culture then the Athenian...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 06, 2017 10:20 AM (aZq03)

I.F. Stone wrote an essay about that. I want to say J.J. Sefton linked it, but I don't remember. But the article said in a nutshell that Socrates was basically helping to overthrow the Athenian government, and advocated killing to get it done. I think that the usual consequence for treason is the death penalty, hence the hemlock. But "historians" have ignored that bit of history, and whinged about a poor philospher/educator being executed for his conscience."

Plus ca change, plus ca le meme.

Posted by: moki at April 06, 2017 10:24 AM (wuzmq)

236 For me, souvlaki and fries, and tsaganaki.





Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:21 AM (tewYv)

whole Bass (or Snapper, whatever they caught that day) over charcoal. no ouzo - that stuff is wicked !

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:25 AM (c6/9Q)

237 Jennefer Anniston.

Greek. Does not drink hemlock.

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at April 06, 2017 10:25 AM (XsvhI)

238 I.F. Stone wrote an essay about that. I want to say J.J. Sefton linked it, but I don't remember. But the article said in a nutshell that Socrates was basically helping to overthrow the Athenian government, and advocated killing to get it done. I think that the usual consequence for treason is the death penalty, hence the hemlock. But "historians" have ignored that bit of history, and whinged about a poor philospher/educator being executed for his conscience."

Plus ca change, plus ca le meme.
Posted by: moki at April 06, 2017 10:24 AM (wuzmq)

Just like Ozzy.

Posted by: Bill & Ted at April 06, 2017 10:25 AM (7HtZB)

239 Saganaki, Nagasaki, so little difference.
Friend of mine got a third-degree burn on her arm, flaming a plate of cheese in the middle of a crowded dining room. Not enough lemon, and she Would.Not.Put.The.Flaming.Cheese.Down.

Almost wish I'd been there, because beautiful woman, head back, screaming, with limbs on fire is right out of "Troades." But then, glad I wasn't, too.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 06, 2017 10:25 AM (H5rtT)

240 156 Nunes stepping aside...

Trump needs to take his entire cabinet, the Republican members of Congress, and all the appointed executive officials on a long retreat named "Learning to Play this Fucking Game".

To set the right mood, it should kick off with the ritual castration of Nunes, using rusty garden shears.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 06, 2017 10:26 AM (LeUrG)

241
My guess ... they just keep this up until Trump is totally surrounded by Establishment Players.

ala Schwarzenegger

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 06, 2017 10:26 AM (IqV8l)

242 Neal DeGrasse Tyson is a silly little bitch.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at April 06, 2017 10:27 AM (xeeHA)

243 I do not approve of setting paying customers on fire with tsaganaki

Posted by: runner's Greek Taverna at April 06, 2017 10:27 AM (c6/9Q)

244 The problem is not that the left does not accept Trump or his agenda as legitimate and worthy of support.

The problem is that the Republican Congress does not accept Trump or his agenda as legitimate and worthy of support.


The problem is not understanding that "the Left" includes parts of the Republican Congress, especially in leadership.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 06, 2017 10:27 AM (9krrF)

245 Old and Busted: Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!

New and Cromulent: *dither and handwring* It doesn't look good. I'm breaking off.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 06, 2017 10:27 AM (JO9+V)

246
For me, souvlaki and fries, and tsaganaki.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:21 AM (tewYv)

Opa!


Every three months, the consulate would get back adjustments from the INS-lists of people who were sent over on B1/B2 tourist visas, who adjusted their status to immigrant. The consular officer with the highest adjustment status had to buy souvlaki for the entire consulate. (45 or so people then, '89-90) I can proudly say that I never had to buy. There was a reason I was known as the bitch at window three.

Posted by: moki at April 06, 2017 10:27 AM (wuzmq)

247 156 Nunes stepping aside...


I did see that Gowdy is gonna "assist." This might have been the plan all along...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 06, 2017 10:28 AM (O2RFr)

248 "Socrates is built like a soldier."

ISTR that's because he was, at least for a time. It was a thing thr Athenians did -- citizens serving in the military, and not making it their career.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at April 06, 2017 10:28 AM (fV8mV)

249 Throughout Greek history, people who drank hemlock generally expected to die.





No Mr. Socrates, I expect you to die!
Posted by: Auric Goldfinger

Posted by: rickb223 at April 06, 2017 10:28 AM (R5V4T)

250 I see the handwriting on the wall, this once in a lifetime opportunity is going to be squandered.

Fucking useless cunts.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 06, 2017 10:29 AM (s1SXz)

251 Lamb Souvlaki ? GREEK !

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:29 AM (c6/9Q)

252 Susan Rice will be in the nearby city (Rochester) tomorrow on her speaking tour....

According to the "Women Helping Girls" website,
there will be a VIP reception held at 5:00 p.m. followed by a moderated
conversation at 6:00 p.m. They say that to get tickets you can purchase
them at the location. The website adds that you can contact
cheryl.mckeiver@gmail.com. The website says tickets cost $25 per person.

I think I can pass, I wonder how much they have to pay her to come and give this talk?

Posted by: Colin at April 06, 2017 10:30 AM (RS7vk)

253 Alt title: "I Drank WHAT?!?"

Posted by: Hack at April 06, 2017 10:31 AM (WuqzM)

254 This is all turning out as I feared it would.

The left and media are like the ocean against a rock. Doesn't matter what rock it is. Give them long enough and they wear it down.

At least the Supreme Court will be okay for a while. A nice, calming reprieve before the country goes all the way off the cliff.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at April 06, 2017 10:31 AM (xeeHA)

255 If the Republicans were smart - HA! I KILL ME! - they would set up a select committee and hire a real pro investigator lawyer.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:31 AM (tewYv)

256 Which raises an uncomfortable question - did Obama stir up race hatred, or did he create the conditions for the true feelings that have always been there to fully surface? IOW, was that supposed "march to racial harmony" which we told ourselves was happening prior to the dog-eating crackhead always a lie?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 06, 2017 07:28 AM (X6fMO)

This is a carryover from the previous thread, but it stirred some memories for me, as someone who has been around for a while. I'm retired now, but from 1970 until 2015 I was out in the real world, the working world, interacting with people of every race, creed, color and hat size.

To answer MPPPP's question, yes, the "race hatred" has always been there, particularly among the black, hispanic and Asian segments of the population. And it has always been there, ever since I was a kid. On top of that, white American has had this whole "whites are all e-vil racists" rammed down it's collective throat by the popular media since the 1960s, and it's never stopped.

However, the fact that blacks, Hispanics and Asians are every bit as racist, indeed moreso, than the whites have ever thought of being, is NEVER mentioned. What has changed now, thanks to Obama, is that now these groups feel more free to openly express their racism than they were in the past.

One huge irony is that each other aforementioned groups hate each other as much as they hate the whites, but the "gringo/honky/gwai-lo" segment are an easy target and a convenient enemy.

I have always chalked this up to being an unfortunate aspect of human nature; the whole "us vs them", "rejection of the Other", etc, that has always been part of the human condition, regardless of race or ethnicity.

So yes, it has always been there, simmering below the surface perhaps, but present nevertheless, in EVERY racial group. But thanks to Obama, now it is out in the open.

And never mind that it was those e-vil white European immigrants, and no one else. who created this country, established the government and civilization, with all its comforts that we all now enjoy. The whites are now the bad guys, the evil ones, no matter how bigoted the other racial groups really are. We are on the hot seat, and you might as well get used to it, because thanks to the Democrat/left flooding the country with people from cultures that hate us, there is no stopping it.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at April 06, 2017 10:32 AM (T1H5V)

257 Posted by: rickb223

lol !

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 10:32 AM (c6/9Q)

258 "Exactly who are these 'Bannon backers' that are being quoted on the newswires."

Rebekah Mercer. Says she had to urge him to not immediately resign from the administration.

"Besides, he still has his clearance and can sit in any time he wants."

We can all rest safely assured that fine-grained, nuanced details of this sort will lodge in the public mind after the huge media carnival of DANGEROUS LOOSE CANNON BANNON UNCEREMONIOUSLY FIRED FROM IMPORTANT NATIONAL SECURITY POST dominates the next four news cycles.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 06, 2017 10:32 AM (noWW6)

259 It occurs to me with a sudden flash of insight: the left thinks we are living in 1984 but this is actually another book by the same author: Animal Farm.

double face palm

Posted by: Max Power at April 06, 2017 10:32 AM (QCc6B)

260 Rubens, not David, was/is arguably the greatest technician in art history. His paintings are a marvel of technical prowess and meticulous construction. Rubens made his paintings to last forever.

Posted by: troyriser at April 06, 2017 10:32 AM (Fw5cQ)

261 What we need now is KAC come busting out of the WH front door wearing a flag jumpsuit, jumping up and down, blowing on a bugle. Because....TRUMP!!

Posted by: Under Fire at April 06, 2017 10:32 AM (nN3W/)

262 For those contemplating Real Philosophy, that shit is not related to our Hemlock tree. Drinking from Hemlock tree will remind you of retsina, but probably won't kill you.

Other names for the real hemlock herb?
Woomlick, beaver poison, poison parsley, bunk, hever, caise, devil's flower,
gypsy flower, break-your-mothers-heart, lady's lace, and, scabby hands.

How history might have changed, with better toxonomy.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 06, 2017 10:32 AM (H5rtT)

263 Susan Rice will be in the nearby city (Rochester) tomorrow on her speaking tour....

I wonder if she's going to bust out her Dindu Nuffin accent again.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 06, 2017 10:32 AM (X6fMO)

264 Dude with his hand on Socrates leg has been inching it higher hoping he doesn't notice

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 06, 2017 10:32 AM (FZYNt)

265 Maybe the democrats are right...

We might have to face the facts that, as a group, we're too fucking stupid to field players on side who can play the game at a level sufficient to win.

No matter how well we do at the ballot box, the people we end up with in office just can't seem to realize what the rules are and how they need to join with their team members to make the big plays.

The other side's back bench routinely beats our star players.

I'm pretty sure they're fucking our cheerleaders too.

Posted by: jwest at April 06, 2017 10:33 AM (Zs4uk)

266 Adam Schiff, California, Ranking Member

-------

That fucker needs to be in prison.


Or sharing a shallow trench with Ben Rhodes.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 10:33 AM (8XRCm)

267 I did see that Gowdy is gonna "assist." This might have been the plan all along...

I can see the narrative now ...

GOPe Shill: We've got a real chance to get this done now !!! Not like when Obama controlled the AG. So we gotta' do this right, see ? Gowdy's a good guy. A real prosecutor. So give him time.

And then Gowdy does just enough to get a few public hearings for political advantage ... and nothing more.

Players ... place your bets.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 06, 2017 10:34 AM (BHaRb)

268 beaver poison

My old sorority nickname!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 06, 2017 10:34 AM (X6fMO)

269 Steven Pressfield's Tides of War uses a disciple of Socrates as a character to present his story of the Peloponnesian War. Athenians and Spartans. Fascinating period of time that does indeed mirror modern day.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 06, 2017 10:35 AM (wH8rX)

270 Knowing what the dems reaction would be, perhaps Nunes could've taken some time to come up with a game plan? Instead, he couldn't wait to get in front of the cameras. If you're gonna get into a fight, it's not necessary to arm your opponent.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 06, 2017 10:35 AM (kTF2Z)

271 @248 Damn right, Crawford.

On other hand, "Plato" means either "The Broad One" or "Fatso."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 06, 2017 10:35 AM (H5rtT)

272 Drinking from Hemlock tree will remind you of retsina, but probably won't kill you.


Tea made from hemlock tree needles not only won't kill you, it's chock full of vitamin C. It's so safe it's listed in my wild foods books.

Same goes for Spruce needles, but some varieties of spruce needles taste funky.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 06, 2017 10:35 AM (ul9CR)

273 Mmm...woomlick.

Posted by: Hillary! at April 06, 2017 10:35 AM (97XyN)

274 The website says tickets cost $25 per person.

I think I can pass, I wonder how much they have to pay her to come and give this talk?
Posted by: Colin



$20.00 a ticket.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 06, 2017 10:35 AM (R5V4T)

275
beaver poison

My old sorority nickname!
Posted by: Sandra Fluke


Do you mean poison beaver?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 06, 2017 10:36 AM (IqV8l)

276 Rubens made his paintings to last forever.

Posted by: troyriser at April 06, 2017 10:32 AM (Fw5cQ)

He must have used the markers they used to map the veins in my legs.

Posted by: BignJames at April 06, 2017 10:36 AM (x9c8r)

277 "beaver poison"
____________________

Yeah, I ingested beaver poison in my late 20s, developed an acute case of matrimony and have been dying a slow death ever since.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 06, 2017 10:36 AM (4AVeu)

278
Plato???


Loved her Diffrent Strokes.

Too bad she couldnt handle her booze and pills.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 10:36 AM (8XRCm)

279 On other hand, "Plato" means either "The Broad One" or "Fatso."
Posted by: Stringer Davis

ever heard of anorexia, bitch?

Posted by: Zombie Dana Plato at April 06, 2017 10:36 AM (FZYNt)

280 GOPe Shill: We've got a real chance to get this done now !!! Not like when Obama controlled the AG. So we gotta' do this right, see ? Gowdy's a good guy. A real prosecutor. So give him time.

And then Gowdy does just enough to get a few public hearings for political advantage ... and nothing more.

Players ... place your bets.
Posted by: ScoggDog




Sucker bet. Not taking it.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 06, 2017 10:37 AM (R5V4T)

281 DOZE GREEK HOMOS WUZ IN CAVES WHEN WE WUZ BUILDINATIN' THE PYRE-KNEES.

Posted by: AL SHARPTATO at April 06, 2017 10:38 AM (9dKbG)

282 And then Gowdy does just enough to get a few public hearings for political advantage ... and nothing more.

=====

Any investigation might have a better chance here where there are real and documented paper trails to follow. The unknown unknowns of past investigations have really shown us that one. After the report is written, ooops, we found another few thousand e-mails, etc.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 10:38 AM (MIKMs)

283 Players ... place your bets.
Posted by: ScoggDog


------

I dunno.

Im torn between "those assholes ALWAYS get away with it" and "Jeff Seesions is gonna light your ass on fire".

I think Im leary of getting my hopes up.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 10:39 AM (8XRCm)

284 @265

The main philosophical difference is those who are leftist/progressive are collectivist and those who are conservative/originalist are individualist.

Given this dynamic it's hard to organize effective resistance and advance a coherent agenda.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 06, 2017 10:40 AM (s1SXz)

285 258
"Exactly who are these 'Bannon backers' that are being quoted on the newswires."

Rebekah Mercer. Says she had to urge him to not immediately resign from the administration.

"Besides, he still has his clearance and can sit in any time he wants."

We
can all rest safely assured that fine-grained, nuanced details of this
sort will lodge in the public mind after the huge media carnival of
DANGEROUS LOOSE CANNON BANNON UNCEREMONIOUSLY FIRED FROM IMPORTANT
NATIONAL SECURITY POST dominates the next four news cycles.


Posted by: torquewrench at April 06, 2017 10:32 AM (noWW6)

That quote from Mercer being repeated in the various 'newswires' all seems to stem from Politico. So I'm suppose to run around with my hair on fire because of a Politico story?
Next time use more CAPS and throw in a few !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 10:40 AM (Enq6K)

286 http://bit.ly/2oN4hbT

Bannon to associates: "I love a gunfight"

all but dad are done with Bannon and his politics.

Posted by: EVLINC! at April 06, 2017 10:41 AM (y3aQB)

287 "Nunes steps down."

Huge mistake. The only response to all the Fake MSM and Dem concerns. should have been FU. Republicans have learned nothing and seem determined to lose.

If the Dems ever get Trump to resign but it won't be from their temper tantrums. It will be from his allies lack of resolve.

Posted by: Ripley at April 06, 2017 10:41 AM (1BQGO)

288 I have a FREE BOOK on my blog today

it's a future set space detective thriller assassin type novel

Link in nic

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at April 06, 2017 10:41 AM (hMwEB)

289 Off, most excellent sock

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 10:41 AM (7HtZB)

290 What is it with Washington that makes other, relatively normal or even mildly smart people turn into idiots when they are elected as republicans?

Posted by: jwest at April 06, 2017 09:50 AM (Zs4uk)

NSA archives.

Posted by: Not James Angleton at April 06, 2017 10:41 AM (tQSaB)

291 Again - if the Republicans do not have the stones or the talent - and they don't! - to do the investigation, then make a select committee and hire some pros.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 10:41 AM (tewYv)

292 "I see the handwriting on the wall, this once in a lifetime opportunity is going to be squandered."

Well, it's true I traded the cow for a couple of beans, but they're *magic* beans, honestly, that's what the guy told me.

::: dried rat turds :::

Posted by: torquewrench at April 06, 2017 10:42 AM (noWW6)

293 China owns all the rare earths in the world. Woe is us.
GE is for sale (the light bulb part), to...guess who.
GE invented LED's, but, Immelt. "Mature product line. No future."
The other big old light bulb companies, Philips, etc, already Chinese.

Sunoco just sold out to 7-11. The good news? They're Japanese.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 06, 2017 10:42 AM (H5rtT)

294 BSG put it best - bukkake theatre.

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 10:42 AM (7HtZB)

295
Holy shit.

I havent seen the much Moby moping since King Putt beats Romney by a nose.

Buck it up buttercups

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 10:43 AM (8XRCm)

296 Im torn between "those assholes ALWAYS get away with it" and "Jeff Seesions is gonna light your ass on fire".

You and I share the same opinion of Sessions ... he seems to be a serious cat.

Which I think is why he was one of the very first pushed to the side. I'll be very surprised if we hear much out of him.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 06, 2017 10:43 AM (BHaRb)

297 ....stick yer finger in the hole and out will come a tootsie roll!!

Posted by: dananjcon at April 06, 2017 10:43 AM (WLK0w)

298 BSG put it best - bukkake theatre.
Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 10:42 AM (7HtZB)

------

That was AtC.

BSG had no clue what bukkake was....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 10:44 AM (8XRCm)

299 "Nunes steps down."

Huge mistake. The only response to all the Fake MSM and Dem concerns. should have been FU. Republicans have learned nothing and seem determined to lose.

If the Dems ever get Trump to resign but it won't be from their temper tantrums. It will be from his allies lack of resolve.

Posted by: Ripley at April 06, 2017 10:41 AM (1BQGO)



The surrender party learned nothing from Trump's campaign. You can't give into them for anything

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 06, 2017 10:44 AM (493sH)

300 "Accused by the Athenian government of denying the gods and corrupting the young"

So, It was Socrates who was the first Rock & Roller?

Posted by: The Left at April 06, 2017 10:45 AM (1Rgee)

301 Which I think is why he was one of the very first pushed to the side. I'll be very surprised if we hear much out of him. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 06, 2017 10:43 AM (BHaRb)
=====

My hope is that since he is out of the way of the main hair on fire contingent now, he can accomplish some substantive reforms.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 10:46 AM (MIKMs)

302 >>>That quote from Mercer being repeated in the various 'newswires' all
seems to stem from Politico. So I'm suppose to run around with my hair
on fire because of a Politico story?
Next time use more CAPS and throw in a few !!!!!!!!!!!
.
.
.I read an article yesterday about that very thing. One site starts an anti Trump story and everyone jumps on the band wagon citing only the original story and soon it is being reported all over the msm as the latest scandal.

All smoke and mirrors with zero substance, and those stories usually start with politico or some other left leaning web site.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 06, 2017 10:46 AM (le7jz)

303 In order to beat the establishment Trump will have to become the establishment.

He will disappoint us eventually but lets never forget all the winning at the beginning, the EPA and immigration changes that are massive and most important stopping Hillary. We will always have Paris....

Posted by: Max Power at April 06, 2017 10:46 AM (QCc6B)

304 BSG had no clue what bukkake was....

There's a joke about having to have things hit you right in the face before you understand, but I'm not making it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 06, 2017 10:46 AM (X6fMO)

305 You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!

Posted by: Eros at April 06, 2017 10:46 AM (JO9+V)

306 298 BSG put it best - bukkake theatre.
Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 10:42 AM (7HtZB)

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That was AtC.

BSG had no clue what bukkake was....
Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 10:44 AM (8XRCm)

Oh. That's not quite as funny as him mistaking kabuki for bukkake.

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 10:47 AM (7HtZB)

307 >>The surrender party learned nothing from Trump's campaign. You can't give into them for anything

And yet it was Trump who pushed back on House Republican's attempt to gut the crazy ethics committee that was set up under Pelosi.

Trump's twitter giveth and taketh away.

http://tinyurl.com/gpljy4h

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 10:48 AM (/tuJf)

308 Oh. That's not quite as funny as him mistaking kabuki for bukkake.
Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 10:47 AM (7HtZB)

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Better than hibachi I guess.

That would an awkward BBQ.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 10:49 AM (8XRCm)

309 Given this dynamic it's hard to organize effective resistance and advance a coherent agenda.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 06, 2017 10:40 AM (s1SXz)

It's about shared goals. The Left knows what it wants. The Right is all over the map.

Posted by: troyriser at April 06, 2017 10:49 AM (Fw5cQ)

310 http://wapo.st/2oNeKnG

Trust in your Govt.

Posted by: EVLINC! at April 06, 2017 10:50 AM (y3aQB)

311 Socrates sure had fabulous abs for an old man. No greasy Greek diner fare for him....

Posted by: JoeF. at April 06, 2017 10:50 AM (7uYFy)

312 On a more positive note, it's Masters time!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 06, 2017 10:51 AM (kTF2Z)

313 the crazy ethics committee that was set up under Pelosi.

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Nanzi Pelosi and Peter Singer, ethicists.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 06, 2017 10:51 AM (Nwg0u)

314 Rain outside the window and rain in my heart, as Buddy Holly would say. I need a cup of tea.

BBL.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 06, 2017 10:51 AM (X6fMO)

315
Oh. That's not quite as funny as him mistaking kabuki for bukkake.

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 10:47 AM (7HtZB)



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Better than hibachi I guess.



That would an awkward BBQ.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 10:49 AM (8XRCm)

Avoid the potato salad at those.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 06, 2017 10:51 AM (JO9+V)

316 308 Oh. That's not quite as funny as him mistaking kabuki for bukkake.
Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 10:47 AM (7HtZB)

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Better than hibachi I guess.

That would an awkward BBQ.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 10:49 AM (8XRCm)

Might make dinner at Benihana's more interesting.

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 10:52 AM (7HtZB)

317 On a more positive note, it's Masters time!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 06, 2017 10:51 AM (kTF2Z)

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What's your safeword??

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 10:52 AM (8XRCm)

318 Palomino!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 06, 2017 10:52 AM (kTF2Z)

319 The surrender party learned nothing from Trump's campaign. You can't give into them for anything

Or maybe we learned nothing.

The phrase came up here constantly ... if someone wanted to dismantle the US, what would they do any differently than Obama ? It's a good question. A hell of a method to figuring out someone's motivations.

So let me ask ... if a political faction wanted to solidify their control of a political party ... what would they do any differently than the GOP Establishment since the Tea Party wave of 2010.

At least for me ... it explains a ton of the actions of Boehner, McCain, Ryan, etc ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 06, 2017 10:53 AM (BHaRb)

320
Socrates sure had fabulous abs for an old man. No greasy Greek diner fare for him....
Posted by: JoeF


Cheeburger cheeburger cheeburger hemlock.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 06, 2017 10:53 AM (IqV8l)

321 312 On a more positive note, it's Masters time!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 06, 2017 10:51 AM (kTF2Z)

Odds on when they change the name due to the racial undertones of hosting "Masters" in a former slave state?

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 10:53 AM (7HtZB)

322 It's about shared goals. The Left knows what it wants. The Right is all over the map.

Also, the left is manic schizophrenics, while the right are all suicidal depressives.

Really, I'm about to just chuck it all and find a cave to live in, the way this keeps going.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 06, 2017 10:53 AM (9krrF)

323 I did see that Gowdy is gonna "assist." This might have been the plan all along...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 06, 2017 10:28 AM (O2RFr)

Saw that too. Hoping.

But in the end will it matter. Laws are for some and not for others.

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at April 06, 2017 10:55 AM (2x9LM)

324 320
Socrates sure had fabulous abs for an old man. No greasy Greek diner fare for him....
Posted by: JoeF

Cheeburger cheeburger cheeburger hemlock.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 06, 2017 10:53 AM (IqV8l)

===============

I have no idea why, but this popped a scifi concept into my mind:

A drug that gives you the instant idealized body, but kills you moments later.

It could have potential...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 10:55 AM (ELUpj)

325 That quote from Mercer being repeated in the various 'newswires' all seems to stem from Politico. So I'm suppose to run around with my hair on fire because of a Politico story?
Next time use more CAPS and throw in a few !!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 10:40 AM (Enq6K)


Yes you are supposed to do that because this is the HQ and the day ends with a 'y'.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Has Got it, Yeah Baby It's Got It at April 06, 2017 10:55 AM (hLRSq)

326 323 Saw that too. Hoping.

But in the end will it matter. Laws are for some and not for others.
Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at April 06, 2017 10:55 AM (2x9LM)

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You could say that some animals are more equal than others.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 10:55 AM (ELUpj)

327 Yes you are supposed to do that because this is the HQ and the day ends with a 'y'.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Has Got it, Yeah Baby It's Got It at April 06, 2017 10:55 AM (hLRSq)

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Do you know what else ends in Y???


ELEVENTY

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 10:56 AM (8XRCm)

328 Good god, another day with "EVILINC" whinging?

Posted by: Robert Crawford at April 06, 2017 10:57 AM (fV8mV)

329
Do you know what else ends in Y???


ELEVENTY
Posted by: fixerupper

Hitlery

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 06, 2017 10:57 AM (FZYNt)

330 102
You may be interested (not really) in Horatio Greenough's statue of George Washington, then. Modeled after a statue of Zeus, it was rejected by the people who ordered it. LOL. Hero worship is a helluva thing.
Posted by: Kris at April 06, 2017 09:52 AM

I saw that! It is hilarious because Washington himself would probably have found it pretentious. Also, there was a video game several years ago that featured the statue because he and Jefferson were worshipped as gods by a future nation called Columbia.

248 "Socrates is built like a soldier."

ISTR that's because he was, at least for a time. It was a thing thr Athenians did -- citizens serving in the military, and not making it their career.
Posted by: Robert Crawford at April 06, 2017 10:28 AM

You are correct. But I know a couple gents retired from service who work out every day and still didn't look like this Socrates at 70! Ha ha,

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 06, 2017 10:57 AM (G8B7r)

331 So...I should really pay more attention to state politics:

SC House just passed Constitutional Carry.

Apparently the hopes of getting it through the State Senate are not terribly high.

I should call my state senator...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 10:58 AM (ELUpj)

332 Good god, another day with "EVILINC" half the goddamn Horde whinging?

Posted by: Robert Crawford


Fixed. Don't have the patience for this today. Out. Laters.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 06, 2017 10:58 AM (9krrF)

333 "EVILINC" whinging?

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Yeah..... but his link to the IRS using deposit rules to steal legitimate business cash was a good story...

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 10:58 AM (8XRCm)

334 But in the end will it matter. Laws are for some and not for others.
Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at April 06, 2017 10:55 AM (2x9LM)

A Citizen-State is not what most people want. They want Comfortable Serfdom.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 06, 2017 10:58 AM (BHaRb)

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 06, 2017 10:59 AM (BHaRb)

336

Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) was been awarded Indian contracts in the sum of almost $2 billion, considered to be "the largest defense contract in Israel's Defense Industries' history."

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 10:59 AM (KlI/a)

337 Suck it Barrel. Suck. It.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 06, 2017 10:59 AM (BHaRb)

338 Yes you are supposed to do that because this is the HQ and the day ends with a 'y'.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Has Got it, Yeah Baby It's Got It at April 06, 2017 10:55 AM (hLRSq)


Every day ends in the Y.

Posted by: Barry at April 06, 2017 10:59 AM (8nWyX)

339 You could say that some animals are more equal than others.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 10:55 AM (ELUpj)

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All the pigs are all lined up...

Posted by: Moron Pundit at April 06, 2017 11:00 AM (xeeHA)

340 Good god, another day with "EVILINC" whinging?

Posted by: Robert Crawford at April 06, 2017 10:57 AM (fV8mV)


See my #325.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Has Got it, Yeah Baby It's Got It at April 06, 2017 11:00 AM (hLRSq)

341 "Accused by the Athenian government of denying the gods and corrupting the young"

Who was the guy who got accused of breaking all the dicks off the herms around Athens? The Greek busts we think of tended to be from herms, which were the subject's head on a block of stone with a cock carved on it a foot or so below the neck.

No, I don't get it either.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at April 06, 2017 11:00 AM (fV8mV)

342 336

Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) was been awarded Indian contracts in the sum of almost $2 billion, considered to be "the largest defense contract in Israel's Defense Industries' history."
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 10:59 AM (KlI/a)

Second look at the Lavi?

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 11:01 AM (7HtZB)

343 Laws are for some and not for others.

I'm getting so sick of this shit.... When the Democrats lose they win. When the Republicans win they lose...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 06, 2017 11:01 AM (O2RFr)

344 I just can't figure out why the Russians (eleventy!) are the big bad here and what the endgame is for declaring virtual war. Geopolitically, they are sometimes adversaries and sometimes allies -- just like every other country. Of course, there are lunatics like McCain who don't believe that countries can govern themselves and have their own interests, but what is the purpose of picking a fight with another country.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 11:01 AM (MIKMs)

345 All this talk about pankkake is making me hungry...

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 06, 2017 11:02 AM (vrLK3)

346 Every day ends in the Y.

Posted by: Barry at April 06, 2017 10:59 AM (8nWyX)


And for you they begin in the 'A'.

So to speak.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Has Got it, Yeah Baby It's Got It at April 06, 2017 11:02 AM (hLRSq)

347 So is Gowdy going to have to split his time with his Benghazi investigation?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at April 06, 2017 11:02 AM (fD1ST)

348 You could say that some animals are more equal than others.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 10:55 AM (ELUpj)

In the animal world (not counting humans at this time) The bigger animals eat the smaller animals. Of course the animal world has grass eating animals, (and they are fair game for everyone) So the bigger you are, the less hungry you will be....Hawks/eagles probably never go hungry, with so many little birds to pick and choose from.Must be an lesson for all of us is their somewhere. Life is not fair!

Posted by: Colin at April 06, 2017 11:03 AM (RS7vk)

349 149,
"Ethics charges. The Sarah Palin playbook resurfaces."

The playbook was written by Rep. David Bonior.

Posted by: geoffb5 at April 06, 2017 11:03 AM (d3wbb)

350 I just can't figure out why the Russians (eleventy!) are the big bad here

It's all they've got.... Everyone one of them running around yelling "The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming."It's a distraction from the real story of obama spying on the other political parties candidate to take him down .

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 06, 2017 11:04 AM (O2RFr)

351 So is Gowdy going to have to split his time with his Benghazi investigation?
Posted by: Moron Robbie at April 06, 2017 11:02 AM (fD1ST)

Is Benghazi playing 3rd base for the Mets?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 11:04 AM (KlI/a)

352 HA! Guy on FBN just said "kabuki theater" re the dems and Gorsuch.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 11:04 AM (Enq6K)

353 >>It's all they've got.... Everyone one of them running around yelling "The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming."It's a distraction from the real story of obama spying on the other political parties candidate to take him down .

Which is why it's a good idea to remove whatever issues they can use as a distraction when it costs you nothing.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 11:05 AM (/tuJf)

354 The Russians are not doing anything different than they have been doing for 75 years...it just took the left wing that many years to wake up to that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 11:05 AM (KlI/a)

355 I'm more cynical.

The Democrats look at how popular Reagan is. They see him talking about the Soviets a lot. They also didn't believe the Soviets were a threat.

So now they don't believe the Russians are a threat, but a really popular President talked about them a lot as if they were...so they'll use them as threats in their rhetoric.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 06, 2017 11:06 AM (PFy0L)

356 All this talk about pankkake is making me hungry...
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 06, 2017 11:02 AM (vrLK3)

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You guys who play baseball will know the feeling when you recognize that hanging curveball isnt going break and your know its going over the fence even before you hit it.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 11:06 AM (8XRCm)

357 Laws are for some and not for others.

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This is the real problem. Right now is our last best hope of maintaining our liberty without blood flowing in the streets. The phony Russia crisis is moving full speed ahead while Obama's Gestapo tactics are written off as Republican racism.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 06, 2017 11:06 AM (Nwg0u)

358 331
So...I should really pay more attention to state politics:



SC House just passed Constitutional Carry.



Apparently the hopes of getting it through the State Senate are not terribly high.



I should call my state senator...


That would be awesome. Especially since non-residents can't get a CCW license there - unless you own property in the state.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 06, 2017 11:06 AM (jxbfJ)

359 I've had to deal politicians at all levels. Sure, there are some decent ones, but most are dumber than a bag of hammers. They're only good at one thing, getting elected. And fund raising. Ok, that's two things. The two things they're good at are gelling elected and fund raising. And grandstanding. Damn, that's three things. Wait, I'll go out and come back in.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 06, 2017 11:06 AM (kTF2Z)

360 The playbook was written by Rep. David Bonior.

Posted by: geoffb5


From Wiki: 'known for his tenacity in opposing Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, against whom Bonior filed more than seventy-five ethics charges'

What a POS.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 06, 2017 11:07 AM (HTdUD)

361 Geopolitically, they are sometimes adversaries and
sometimes allies -- just like every other country.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 11:01 AM (MIKMs)

Huh?

The Russians are our adversaries for many reasons. They are very different than most of the rest of the developed world because they want regional hegemony and are willing to do anything to get it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 06, 2017 11:07 AM (rF0hx)

362 I've had to deal politicians at all levels. Sure, there are some decent ones, but most are dumber than a bag of hammers. They're only good at one thing, getting elected. And fund raising. Ok, that's two things. The two things they're good at are gelling elected and fund raising. And grandstanding. Damn, that's three things. Wait, I'll go out and come back in.

You forgot about their fanatical devotion to the Pope.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 06, 2017 11:07 AM (PFy0L)

363
Must be an lesson for all of us is their somewhere. Life is not fair!
Posted by: Colin


And the trees were all made equal by hatchet, ax and saw. And government.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 06, 2017 11:07 AM (IqV8l)

364 Of course, there are lunatics like McCain who don't believe that countries can govern themselves and have their own interests, but what is the purpose of picking a fight with another country.

Because you get to seize control internally. When Dems are in charge, you get to do it with the willful co-operation of pro-State Republicans.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 06, 2017 11:08 AM (BHaRb)

365 The Russians are not doing anything different than they have been doing for 75 years...it just took the left wing that many years to wake up to that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 11:05 AM (KlI/a)


They don't have anything else and Trump is the one that holds all of the files and the logs. Scream and distract and hope for the best seems to be their game plan.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Abhorrent Abominations Abound at the Outrage Outlet! at April 06, 2017 11:08 AM (hLRSq)

366 Trump's Swamp Pump is broken and offline. Bannon is the only one in the WH that has the maintenance manual out on the desk trying to figure out a solution while Kuschy looks on woefully shaking his head. Duchess Ivanka is repulsed by the entire conversation. It's the Kardasian WH. We. Are. Fvcked. Analy.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 06, 2017 11:08 AM (nN3W/)

367 344 I just can't figure out why the Russians (eleventy!) are the big bad here and what the endgame is for declaring virtual war. Geopolitically, they are sometimes adversaries and sometimes allies -- just like every other country. Of course, there are lunatics like McCain who don't believe that countries can govern themselves and have their own interests, but what is the purpose of picking a fight with another country.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 11:01 AM (MIKMs)

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I keep repeating it, but Russia preferring Trump over Hillary, aside from some personal pique which I'm sure played a part since Putin apparently hates Clinton, doesn't make all that much sense.

In terms of Russia's goals, it seems like they'd rather have someone in the White House willing to strangle American oil production with over regulation and taxation instead of a president who has promised to open up lands and push fracking's interests in government.

So, either Putin looked at the Russia's finances and decided that helping his government go bankrupt was worth destroying someone he personally hates, or he was trying to weaken the assumed president, ifhe did anything at all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:08 AM (ELUpj)

368
The Russians are our adversaries for many
reasons. They are very different than most of the rest of the developed
world because they want regional hegemony and are willing to do anything
to get it. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 06, 2017 11:07 AM (rF0hx)
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Germany.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 11:09 AM (MIKMs)

369 Whatever it takes to put Gorsuch on the US Supreme Court bench. Nothing else short of a nuclear exchange matters.

Posted by: mrp at April 06, 2017 11:10 AM (Pqytn)

370 Is Benghazi playing 3rd base for the Mets?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 11:04 AM (KlI/a)




I Don't Know

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 06, 2017 11:10 AM (493sH)

371 Whew. That was close.

This is why I'm always nice to Fenelon.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 06, 2017 11:11 AM (KGH7Z)

372 >>Whatever it takes to put Gorsuch on the US Supreme Court bench. Nothing else short of a nuclear exchange matters.

That doesn't sound very GOPeish.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 11:11 AM (/tuJf)

373 Barry Manilow comes out as gay.

Other big surprise story of the day:

Yankee Pitching sucks


Stay tuned for more breaking news?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 11:11 AM (KlI/a)

374 Which is why it's a good idea to remove whatever issues they can use as a distraction when it costs you nothing.

I agree 100% I know it's probably not popular here but I think Nunes had no choice.. If you read his statement, he says he wants to meet with the ethics committee as soon as possible to prove this bogus .

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 06, 2017 11:12 AM (O2RFr)

375 The Russians are our adversaries for many

reasons. They are very different than most of the rest of the developed

world because they want regional hegemony and are willing to do anything

to get it. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 06, 2017 11:07 AM (rF0hx)
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Germany.




Posted by: mustbequantum


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Russia is a European Union problem - they want their gas cheep. it is always about the resources in resource poor Europe. the only country that is resource rich is Russia, therefore a push into Ukraine, the Caucuses

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 11:12 AM (c6/9Q)

376 350 I just can't figure out why the Russians (eleventy!) are the big bad here

It's all they've got.... Everyone one of them running around yelling "The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming."It's a distraction from the real story of obama spying on the other political parties candidate to take him down .
Posted by: It's Me donna at April 06, 2017 11:04 AM (O2RFr)

Everybody to get from street!

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 11:12 AM (0mRoj)

377 372 >>Whatever it takes to put Gorsuch on the US Supreme Court bench. Nothing else short of a nuclear exchange matters.

That doesn't sound very GOPeish.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 11:11 AM (/tuJf)

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Comity is slowly dying in the Senate, and it seems like most Republicans have given up on the defibrillator.

I'm sure one or two will come back to try CPR soon enough, but it will be to no avail.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:12 AM (ELUpj)

378 In the animal world (not counting humans at this time) The bigger animals eat the smaller animals. Of course the animal world has grass eating animals, (and they are fair game for everyone) So the bigger you are, the less hungry you will be....Hawks/eagles probably never go hungry, with so many little birds to pick and choose from.Must be an lesson for all of us is their somewhere. Life is not fair!

Posted by: Colin at April 06, 2017 11:03 AM (RS7vk)


Somebody didn't watch Zootopia!

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 11:12 AM (tewYv)

379 >>>A drug that gives you the instant idealized body, but kills you moments later.

There was an interesting poll of Olympic athletes on this subject.

:::rummages in links:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 06, 2017 11:12 AM (vrLK3)

380 You heard of honest Socrates
The man who never lied
They weren't so grateful as you'd think
Instead the rulers fixed to have him tried
And handed him the poisoned drink
How honest was the people's noble son
The world however didn't wait
But soon observed what followed on
It's honesty that brought him to that state
How fortunate the man with none
How fortunate the man with none

Posted by: BurtTC at April 06, 2017 11:13 AM (TOk1P)

381 379 >>>A drug that gives you the instant idealized body, but kills you moments later.

There was an interesting poll of Olympic athletes on this subject.

:::rummages in links:::
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 06, 2017 11:12 AM (vrLK3)

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Seems like the idea could have the level of merit that a short story could hinge on...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:13 AM (ELUpj)

382 I think one can say that David was always a proto fascist, in the sense he was someone hungering a for a new order to sweep away all the degeneracy he saw around him, and give him heroes to worship. He cared very little about the quantity of blood that was shed, after all action requires blood, and action was what he wanted. He worshipped the vital force, what the Romans called the "genius" in man. His toady behaviour with Napoleon was his true nature. A fascist worships action for its own sake and worships death because the ultimate action is killing and being killed. This is why General Millan-Astray cried ˇViva la Muerte! He expressed the dream of the real fascist.

Before the Revolution he, David, held up men of action, acts of violence, victories made by men who feared nothing except dishonor. These are his calls to moral action. But once the Revolution and then the Terror began he was fulfilled, he had his heroes before him.

I think his greatest painting is his most odious, the Death of Marat, with Marat deified like a new Christ. Marat, the perfect inage of the age, a man who kills hundred, thousands, remotely and capriciously merely by using their names is visibly holding a final list of names. That list Charlotte Corday used to lure him to death. That the list is utterly fraudulent and a ruse is perfect since even in death Marat's supreme will will have them murdered.

David is the painter that every worshipper of death that followed wanted and needed.

(Btw, this is why every accusation of Trump as fascist is so odious and repellent. Trump wants no one's death, he abhors war, he obviously sees conflict as waste. He wants to get up every morning and build stuff, get stuff done, to see actual progress, and then maybe get a little remote adulation, and then have sex and eat a delicious burger and go to sleep. Sure he wants to be strong, but only because he knows being strong is a way of avoiding wasteful conflict.

At the worst you could sat Trump wants to be Pharoah, but a good Pharoah like the one in Genesis 37-50, who has the dream and makes Joseph his vizier, top men after all. This pharoah wants his people to prosper and he wants to make Egypt great again.

Posted by: Roy CT at April 06, 2017 11:14 AM (wdHQo)

383 What's all this talk about "nuclear?"

Didn't someone point out that Clarence Thomas was confirmed with 52 or so votes? What's different now?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at April 06, 2017 11:14 AM (fD1ST)

384
Heh.

Love the headline and photo on Drudge.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 11:14 AM (8XRCm)

385 Didn't someone point out that Clarence Thomas was confirmed with 52 or so votes? What's different now?
Posted by: Moron Robbie at April 06, 2017 11:14 AM (fD1ST)

They did not fillurbuster his vote...the left let him be voted upon

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 11:15 AM (KlI/a)

386 383 What's all this talk about "nuclear?"

Didn't someone point out that Clarence Thomas was confirmed with 52 or so votes? What's different now?
Posted by: Moron Robbie at April 06, 2017 11:14 AM (fD1ST)

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More than 60 voted for cloture on Thomas, but only 52 voted for the actual approval.

Cloture is stupid.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:15 AM (ELUpj)

387 Didn't someone point out that Clarence Thomas was confirmed with 52 or so votes? What's different now?
Posted by: Moron Robbie at April 06, 2017 11:14 AM (fD1ST)

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The vote for cloture and the actual vote for appointment are two different things.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 11:15 AM (8XRCm)

388 381 379 >>>A drug that gives you the instant idealized body, but kills you moments later.

There was an interesting poll of Olympic athletes on this subject.

:::rummages in links:::
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 06, 2017 11:12 AM (vrLK3)

================

Seems like the idea could have the level of merit that a short story could hinge on...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:13 AM (ELUpj)

It could. Maybe extend it to 24 hours. Perfect appearance, body, mind, strength, vitality. The pinnacle of the human ideal. But you die in exactly one day.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 11:15 AM (0mRoj)

389 This pharoah wants his people to prosper and he wants to make Egypt great again.

Posted by: Roy CT at April 06, 2017 11:14 AM (wdHQo)


Great. Now they'll say Trump is pro-slavery and anti-Semitic.

Oh, wait.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 11:15 AM (tewYv)

390 So Nunes says he is stepping down from the chairmanship because he doesn't want ethics charges to get in the way of the investigation,

That's hilarious.

What does he think is going to happen to the next chairman? I give him a week before ethics charges are filed against him.

And this is how you derail an investigation if you are the democrats. They know exactly how to remove a Republican, simply run to the press and accuse them of being racist, homophobic, or being unethical. Bring up some ridiculous example, such as Nunes used a WH scif instead of one at another building, and keep intimating that he did so to inform the president to begin covering up his Russia connections.

Poof, the republicans, whose reputation as being clean as the wind driven snow means more to them than the job they were sent to Washington to do, will immediately go into an apologetic, cowering , please forgive me , I want to set an example posture.

And the wolves smile.

Posted by: Jen at April 06, 2017 11:15 AM (OBjuz)

391 frack - cheap !

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 11:16 AM (c6/9Q)

392 383 What's all this talk about "nuclear?"

Didn't someone point out that Clarence Thomas was confirmed with 52 or so votes? What's different now?
Posted by: Moron Robbie at April 06, 2017 11:14 AM (fD1ST)
===

That was me. His was the most narrow confirmation of a supreme court justice ever.

Posted by: Independent George at April 06, 2017 11:16 AM (BDZWU)

393 I am glad they are going nuclear...now we need a left Judge to leave the Court, one way or another

Best News since PDT was elected

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 11:16 AM (KlI/a)

394 >>Russia is a European Union problem - they want their gas cheep. it is always about the resources in resource poor Europe. the only country that is resource rich is Russia, therefore a push into Ukraine, the Caucuses

Russia is a far more than an EU only problem and their expansion goes far beyond Ukraine and the Caucuses.

They are backing Iran and Syria for a reason and it's not humanitarian. Iran is sitting on an assload of oil with limited means to distribute it. Syria has warm water ports that give ready access to Europe.

While their might be short term issues we can work with Russia they are few and far between. They have their own agenda and they are much more focused on getting it done. Dictatorships are fun like that.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 11:17 AM (/tuJf)

395 i really want that post post correct, i am so embarasasted

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 11:17 AM (c6/9Q)

396 388 It could. Maybe extend it to 24 hours. Perfect appearance, body, mind, strength, vitality. The pinnacle of the human ideal. But you die in exactly one day.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 11:15 AM (0mRoj)

=================

20-30 pages could cover it...

I'm going to file this away and get to it as soon as I'm done with draft 1 of book 4.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:17 AM (ELUpj)

397 >>>Geopolitically, they are sometimes adversaries and
sometimes allies -- just like every other country.

They are more frequently adversary and there is a much smaller spectrum of ally than many other countries. Otherwise your statement is just a banality. (Not a banana inanity either, because those are the BEST)

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 06, 2017 11:17 AM (vrLK3)

398 The Russian thing is Saint Elmo's Fire. Just something the dems made up to make themselves feel better.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 06, 2017 11:17 AM (kTF2Z)

399 Stupid party needs to learn "FYNQ"

Posted by: Roland THTG at April 06, 2017 11:17 AM (oR5ks)

400 393 I am glad they are going nuclear...now we need a left Judge to leave the Court, one way or another

Best News since PDT was elected
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 06, 2017 11:16 AM (KlI/a)

====================

I'm still hoping that RBG retires the second the rule change happens.

The timing would be good enough for Hollywood.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:18 AM (ELUpj)

401
How about instead of pearl clutching y'all round on your Rep and Sen with your complaint?

Not really intending sarcasm with the above, but THEY need to hear you holler.

Repeatedly, but do it with a modicum of courtesy.

Convincing me that their approach is useless preaching to the choir.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 06, 2017 11:18 AM (S/hVx)

402 I agree 100% I know it's probably not popular here but I think Nunes had no choice.. If you read his statement, he says he wants to meet with the ethics committee as soon as possible to prove this bogus .
Posted by: It's Me donna at April 06, 2017 11:12 AM (O2RFr)

and the Dems on that committee will stall as long as possible. Say they don't have enough information, then Congress will recess, then when they come back, the Dems will say Nunes didn't file his papers correctly, then someone will be ill and can't attend a meeting, etc.

Posted by: Jen at April 06, 2017 11:18 AM (OBjuz)

403 Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Abhorrent Abominations Abound at the Outrage Outlet! at April 06, 2017 11:18 AM (hLRSq)

404 While their might be short term issues we can work with Russia they are few and far between. They have their own agenda and they are much more focused on getting it done. Dictatorships are fun like that.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 11:17 AM (/tuJf)


I've spent much of the last several years not giving a damn what Russia does or does not do.

I keep waiting for something to happen that will give me some indication why I should give a damn what they do.

I haven't seen it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 06, 2017 11:19 AM (TOk1P)

405 It could. Maybe extend it to 24 hours. Perfect appearance, body, mind, strength, vitality. The pinnacle of the human ideal. But you die in exactly one day.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 11:15 AM (0mRoj)


That could be a Philip K. Dick story.

You'd have to have some lifespan greater than a day to make the tradeoff.

Or if you really want to make it fun, make it based on some genetic thing that can trades off your telomeres at a 100:1 rate. So if your lifespan is genetically only going to be a year, you get 3.6 days.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 11:20 AM (tewYv)

406 >>I keep waiting for something to happen that will give me some indication why I should give a damn what they do.

>>I haven't seen it.

Keep your eye on Iran and Syria. An indication is coming up soon.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 11:20 AM (/tuJf)

407 Seems like the idea could have the level of merit that a short story could hinge on...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:13 AM (ELUpj)



It could. Maybe extend it to 24 hours. Perfect appearance, body,
mind, strength, vitality. The pinnacle of the human ideal. But you die
in exactly one day.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 11:15 AM (0mRoj)

Would this be a luxury tourist resort for people attracted to those who are beautiful, smart and witty but will be dead soon? Is there a market for that?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 06, 2017 11:20 AM (tHwdc)

408 and the Dems on that committee will stall as long as possible. Say they don't have enough information, then Congress will recess, then when they come back, the Dems will say Nunes didn't file his papers correctly, then someone will be ill and can't attend a meeting, etc

LOL, probably right! But meanwhile the investigation goes on...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 06, 2017 11:21 AM (O2RFr)

409 Bush got along with Putin, got things done. Then Georgia happened, and it happened because VV realized that certain Brezhinski types had a plan going to bring Georgia into EU then NATO

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 11:21 AM (c6/9Q)

410 Saint Elmo's Fire. Just something the dems made up to make themselves feel better.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 06, 2017 11:17 AM (kTF2Z)


I don't know about the Democrats, but it makes ME feel better to think of a young Demi Moore when she was so damned hot, even Elmo couldn't touch her.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 06, 2017 11:21 AM (TOk1P)

411 OK!

Katie Genevieve Bigby born yesterday at 530pm 6lbs whatever ounces

Mom and baby doing fine. Dad running around like a headless chicken.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM (eCG8/)

412 The Russian thing is Saint Elmo's Fire. Just something the dems made up to make themselves feel better.

-------

No ..... the Russia thing is real.


Where do you think the Long March Thru The Institutions, Alger Hiss, The Rosenbergs, The Organized Labor Movement and most of the 20th Century Anti War Movement came from??

Russian Influence.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM (8XRCm)

413 Shit just got real.

Democrats did it.

They "filibustered" Gorsuch.

Nuke it from orbit, Mitch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM (ELUpj)

414 I keep waiting for something to happen that will give me some indication why I should give a damn what they do.

>>I haven't seen it.
-----------------------------
Keep your eye on Iran and Syria. An indication is coming up soon.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 11:20 AM (/tuJf)


Nope. Don't care what happens to Iran/Syria.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM (TOk1P)

415 So McConnell will go nuclear and then they have 30 hours to vote.



Why the 30 hours? Just effin' vote.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM (Enq6K)

416
Cloture vote was 55 Yes, 45 Nay. I wonder if all the Republicans were on board?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM (493sH)

417 398 The Russian thing is Saint Elmo's Fire.

--

Obligatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVf4_WglzWA

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 11:23 AM (7HtZB)

418 407
Would this be a luxury tourist resort for people attracted to those who are beautiful, smart and witty but will be dead soon? Is there a market for that?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 06, 2017 11:20 AM (tHwdc)

================

Don't you think that in today's narcissistic and short sighted culture that there would be a bunch of people to fall over themselves for this just so they can have that perfect Instagram photo that will go viral as soon as the world finds out that they're dead?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:23 AM (ELUpj)

419 Or if you really want to make it fun, make it based on some genetic thing that can trades off your telomeres at a 100:1 rate. So if your lifespan is genetically only going to be a year, you get 3.6 days.

But best part - you don't know.

(Harrison Ford voiceover) Who does?(end voiceover)

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 11:24 AM (tewYv)

420 >>Nope. Don't care what happens to Iran/Syria.

You should. They care about you.

Why exactly do you think we are having this huge issue with Syrian refugees? Why do you think Russia was buys arming Iran before the ink on the UN SC deal to kill the sanctions was dry?

It is dangerous to think that what happens in other parts of the world doesn't affect us. It does.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 11:24 AM (/tuJf)

421 417 398 The Russian thing is Saint Elmo's Fire.
--

Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVf4_WglzWA

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 11:23 AM (7HtZB)


Heh. I was expecting this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-3djUYgebU

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 06, 2017 11:24 AM (zQ1pD)

422 416
Cloture vote was 55 Yes, 45 Nay. I wonder if all the Republicans were on board?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM (493sH)

===============

They were.

52 plus Manchin, Donnelly, and Bennet

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:25 AM (ELUpj)

423 Where do you think the Long March Thru The Institutions, Alger Hiss, The
Rosenbergs, The Organized Labor Movement and most of the 20th Century
Anti War Movement came from??
Russian Influence.
=====

You could make the same argument against Germany and the German influence, especially in the Academy. Where do you think all those Russian 'leaders' trained?

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 11:25 AM (MIKMs)

424 Katie Genevieve Bigby born yesterday at 530pm 6lbs whatever ounces

Mom and baby doing fine. Dad running around like a headless chicken.

Congrats to you!

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 06, 2017 11:26 AM (O2RFr)

425 Would this be a luxury tourist resort for people attracted to those
who are beautiful, smart and witty but will be dead soon? Is there a
market for that?


A one night stand you never have to worry about boiling bunnies later? Yeah, there's a market for that.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 06, 2017 11:26 AM (YEelc)

426 Congrats, Bigby & Mrs. !
Blessings on the little one !
Blessings rain down on you all !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 06, 2017 11:26 AM (KGH7Z)

427 Russian Influence.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM (8XRCm)

Soviet, Soviet influence. That was ideology and world proletariat unite. Russian concerns are different now, and the resources are not there to influence every dissatisfied punk on the street to overthrow eveil capitalists and install glorious communism.

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 11:26 AM (c6/9Q)

428 You would think a war hero and outstanding judge absolving generals accused of false war crimes would have gotten some leniency. But remember, he crossed the Greek Deep State. Nobody lives when they whip up the polis.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 06, 2017 11:27 AM (e1mEI)

429 It is dangerous to think that what happens in other parts of the world doesn't affect us. It does.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 11:24 AM (/tuJf)



Funny, when we had that little post this morning about rotten old Woodrow Wilson coercing us into WWI...

No, I don't care. Let them all die. Let Russia take what they want, and kill everybody they want.

I don't care.

If it helps the rest of y'all, feel free to draw whatever lines you want on a map, tell Russia to stay out of THOSE places, and leave me the hell alone unless and until they cross those lines.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 06, 2017 11:27 AM (TOk1P)

430 Dear Lord...

Joss Whedon apparently believes that Trump is going to kill gay people, literally.

When it doesn't happen, I'm sure Joss will apologize and rethink his basic assumptions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:27 AM (ELUpj)

431 OK!



Katie Genevieve Bigby born yesterday at 530pm 6lbs whatever ounces



Mom and baby doing fine. Dad running around like a headless chicken.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM


Congratulations, Bigby!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 06, 2017 11:28 AM (p+Wdc)

432 Don't you think that in today's narcissistic and
short sighted culture that there would be a bunch of people to fall over
themselves for this just so they can have that perfect Instagram photo
that will go viral as soon as the world finds out that they're dead?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:23 AM (ELUpj)

A preferable pathway to fame than being a mass murderer, I suppose.
People are so stupid.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 06, 2017 11:28 AM (tHwdc)

433 430 Dear Lord...

Joss Whedon apparently believes that Trump is going to kill gay people, literally.

When it doesn't happen, I'm sure Joss will apologize and rethink his basic assumptions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:27 AM (ELUpj)

Start posting rumors on FB & twitter that your gay BFF disappeared. Watch the panic ensue. These people are so easy to gaslight.

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 11:29 AM (7HtZB)

434 Scott Adams with interesting take on Syrian gas attack.

I think it is a good analysis, but one quibble, relies on rational actors and not so sure Syria has many.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 11:29 AM (tewYv)

435

Why the 30 hours? Just effin' vote.


Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM (Enq6K)

Probably some stupid rule. But they can sure try to milk all the drama possible before they leave tomorrow night.

Posted by: Infidel at April 06, 2017 11:29 AM (uKRys)

436 432
A preferable pathway to fame than being a mass murderer, I suppose.
People are so stupid.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 06, 2017 11:28 AM (tHwdc)

================

It doesn't help that the dominant culture encourages the stupidity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:29 AM (ELUpj)

437 You should see what we have on this Gorsuch guy.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at April 06, 2017 11:29 AM (nN3W/)

438 Joss Whedon apparently believes that Trump is going to kill gay people, literally.

When it doesn't happen, I'm sure Joss will apologize and rethink his basic assumptions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:27 AM (ELUpj)


*starts stopwatch*

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at April 06, 2017 11:30 AM (K9oqL)

439 433 Start posting rumors on FB & twitter that your gay BFF disappeared. Watch the panic ensue. These people are so easy to gaslight.
Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 11:29 AM (7HtZB)

================

"I made fun of Whedon when he said this would happen, but no one's seen Gerald in two weeks. He's not responding to texts. Please, if you know anything..."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:30 AM (ELUpj)

440 It could. Maybe extend it to 24 hours. Perfect appearance, body, mind,
strength, vitality. The pinnacle of the human ideal. But you die in
exactly one day.

Posted by: Insomniac

that would be one busy day ...

Posted by: runner at April 06, 2017 11:30 AM (c6/9Q)

441 Why the 30 hours? Just effin' vote.


Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM (Enq6K)

Probably some stupid rule. But they can sure try to milk all the drama possible before they leave tomorrow night.

Posted by: Infidel at April 06, 2017 11:29 AM (uKRys)


Yes there is a 30 hr debate rule. Insty had a link, they are thinking of changing that to 8.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 11:30 AM (tewYv)

442 441 Yes there is a 30 hr debate rule. Insty had a link, they are thinking of changing that to 8.

Posted by: blaster at April 06, 2017 11:30 AM (tewYv)

=================

So many lower court appointees...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:31 AM (ELUpj)

443 430 Dear Lord...

Joss Whedon apparently believes that Trump is going to kill gay people, literally.

When it doesn't happen, I'm sure Joss will apologize and rethink his basic assumptions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:27 AM (ELUpj)

I don't understand the OMG TRUMP IS GOING TO EXTERMINATE TEH GHEYZZZ thing. It was going around well before the election. It's beyond insane.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 11:32 AM (0mRoj)

444 Thanks all

Of course I'm going to be in and out, lots to do. Probably more settled down in a week or so. Next is out of town relatives

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at April 06, 2017 11:32 AM (eCG8/)

445 Do they have to have 30 hours of floor time on the motion to reduce it to 8?

Posted by: JEM at April 06, 2017 11:32 AM (TppKb)

446
You done fucked up Chuckie Schumer.


Supreme Court Justice Ted Cruz.

Its coming. .... and you cant do shit about it.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 11:33 AM (8XRCm)

447 Assad is rational. he kind of has to be.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 06, 2017 11:33 AM (DeO5Y)

448 Joss Whedon apparently believes that Trump is going to kill gay people, literally.

When it doesn't happen, I'm sure Joss will apologize and rethink his basic assumptions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:27 AM (ELUpj)

I don't understand the OMG TRUMP IS GOING TO EXTERMINATE TEH GHEYZZZ thing. It was going around well before the election. It's beyond insane.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 11:32 AM (0mRoj)



Beyond insane = normal for the left

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 06, 2017 11:33 AM (493sH)

449 >>>They were.

52 plus Manchin, Donnelly, and Bennet
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:25 AM (ELUpj)

Heitkamp too. McConnell voted no for procedural reasons related to the pending nuking.

Posted by: T at April 06, 2017 11:33 AM (IKdzI)

450 Congrats on the newest little bologna loaf Bigby!

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 11:33 AM (0mRoj)

451 Start posting rumors on FB & twitter that your gay BFF disappeared. Watch the panic ensue. These people are so easy to gaslight.
Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 11:29 AM (7HtZB)

================

"I made fun of Whedon when he said this would happen, but no one's seen Gerald in two weeks. He's not responding to texts. Please, if you know anything..."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:30 AM (ELUpj)


I would almost consider creating a fake twitter account just to do this.

"Marcus said he didn't care there was a Trump rally going on, he had to get to work, and he had to go through that area. The thing is, somebody found and turned in his phone to the police, but the police don't care! Marcus would NEVER go anywhere without his phone!!!"

Posted by: BurtTC at April 06, 2017 11:34 AM (TOk1P)

452 443 I don't understand the OMG TRUMP IS GOING TO EXTERMINATE TEH GHEYZZZ thing. It was going around well before the election. It's beyond insane.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 11:32 AM (0mRoj)

=================

Yeah...the guy who built a new golf course because another golf course wouldn't allow gay people specifically because Trump wanted to play golf with some gay guys...

He totally hates them.

These people have become completely unhinged from reality.

Hey, you know how publications are writing articles wondering why Republicans believe things that are patently false like the wiretapping? How about an article about how progressives "know" that Trump hates gay people?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:34 AM (ELUpj)

453 430 Dear Lord...

Joss Whedon apparently believes that Trump is going to kill gay people, literally.

When it doesn't happen, I'm sure Joss will apologize and rethink his basic assumptions.
---------------------------

It's amazing how much some people believe they matter to others.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 06, 2017 11:34 AM (vg8iE)

454 I don't understand the OMG TRUMP IS GOING TO
EXTERMINATE TEH GHEYZZZ thing. It was going around well before the
election. It's beyond insane.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 11:32 AM (0mRoj)

They're fizzing with rabies. Rationality was never their strong suit before Trump anyway.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (tHwdc)

455 446
You done fucked up Chuckie Schumer.


Supreme Court Justice Ted Cruz.

Its coming. .... and you cant do shit about it.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 11:33 AM (8XRCm)

================

Not just SCOTUS justice Cruz, but Cruz in RBG's seat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (ELUpj)

456
Don't you think that in today's narcissistic and short sighted culture that there would be a bunch of people to fall over themselves for this just so they can have that perfect Instagram photo that will go viral as soon as the world finds out that they're dead?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:23 AM (ELUpj)


I'm too lazy to look it up, but apparently there's a Robert Redford movie coming out where he plays a scientist who definitively establishes that there is an afterlife, and people begin killing themselves to get there.

I expect it to be gratuitously anti-religion.

And I'd take that pill. In a fucking heartbeat.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (X6fMO)

457 Probably some stupid rule. But they can sure try to milk all the drama possible before they leave tomorrow night.


Posted by: Infidel at April 06, 2017 11:29 AM (uKRys)

The stupid rules in the Senate is directly proportional to the number of stupid senators.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (Enq6K)

458 In the spirit of good sportsmanship, comity and environmentalism , we have decided not to exercise nukyular options of any kind this week. Er year.

Posted by: A Turtle-Like Mammal at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (fLMbU)

459 449 >>>They were.

52 plus Manchin, Donnelly, and Bennet
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:25 AM (ELUpj)

Heitkamp too. McConnell voted no for procedural reasons related to the pending nuking.
Posted by: T at April 06, 2017 11:33 AM (IKdzI)

=================

McConnell voted no?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

He must be punished!!!!!!!!

Rage above all!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (ELUpj)

460 >>You done fucked up Chuckie Schumer.


>>Supreme Court Justice Ted Cruz.

>>Its coming. .... and you cant do shit about it.

Can't be. I've been told the GOPe would surrender on this issue for weeks now.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (/tuJf)

461 443 430 Dear Lord...

Joss Whedon apparently believes that Trump is going to kill gay people, literally.

When it doesn't happen, I'm sure Joss will apologize and rethink his basic assumptions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:27 AM (ELUpj)

I don't understand the OMG TRUMP IS GOING TO EXTERMINATE TEH GHEYZZZ thing. It was going around well before the election. It's beyond insane.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 11:32 AM (0mRoj)

It's not insane. I was going to meet my gay BFF Julio for a soy latte at Starbucks the other day & he never showed up. He's not answering my texts, he hasn't posted anything on facebook - I think he may have been taken to the Trump camps.

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (7HtZB)

462

Speaking of Greeks - Nicole Petallides on Fox Business

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 06, 2017 11:36 AM (493sH)

463 Teh gheys is disappearin'!1!

Posted by: Josss Weeding at April 06, 2017 11:36 AM (vtcmf)

464 If one of my FB friends posts that Whedon story about Trump eliminating the gays, I'm tempted to respond with "Well, here's hoping." The outrage should be pretty significant.

Posted by: T at April 06, 2017 11:36 AM (IKdzI)

465 Took a little trip around to other Conservative sites, I know I cheated, and they are running around with their hair on fire over this Nunes thing.....It's a wonder to behold...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 06, 2017 11:37 AM (O2RFr)

466 454 I don't understand the OMG TRUMP IS GOING TO
EXTERMINATE TEH GHEYZZZ thing. It was going around well before the
election. It's beyond insane.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 06, 2017 11:32 AM (0mRoj)

They're fizzing with rabies. Rationality was never their strong suit before Trump anyway.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (tHwdc)

Trump's election put a lot of stress on a structure that wasn't up to code to begin with.

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 11:37 AM (7HtZB)

467 "Crito, we owe a rooster to Asclepius. Please, don't forget to pay the debt."

Posted by: Baracrates Obama at April 06, 2017 11:37 AM (2Mnv1)

468 I don't understand the OMG TRUMP IS GOING TO EXTERMINATE TEH GHEYZZZ thing. It was going around well before the election. It's beyond insane.

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It's nothing more than a dramatic device to whip up Leftist hysterics. These people are mentally and emotionally unstable and why more people don't see it is a fucking mystery to me.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 06, 2017 11:38 AM (vg8iE)

469 You done fucked up Chuckie Schumer.


Supreme Court Justice Ted Cruz.

Its coming. .... and you cant do shit about it.

Posted by: fixerupper



Pray hard.
Because I'm on an anti-incumbent tear next couple election cycles. And yes, Cruz is included. So he'd best take it if offered.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 06, 2017 11:38 AM (R5V4T)

470 Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM (8XRCm)

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I should have been more clear. I meant the Russian hacking of the election thing. Trying to cope with the loss of the election.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 06, 2017 11:38 AM (kTF2Z)

471 377,

"Comity is slowly dying in the Senate, and it seems like most Republicans have given up on the defibrillator.



I'm sure one or two will come back to try CPR soon enough, but it will be to no avail.
"

Constitutional Carry 4 Congress Comity or Comedy will return.

Posted by: geoffb5 at April 06, 2017 11:38 AM (d3wbb)

472 Posting that video of St. Elmo's Fire led me down a whole rabbit hole of 80s one hit wonders.

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 11:38 AM (7HtZB)

473 So-crates Johnson!

Posted by: Agent Cooper at April 06, 2017 11:39 AM (1zARK)

474 In my sock, a minor piece from Scott Adams doubting the "Assad" gas attack. (Includes "persuasion" links!)

Posted by: andycanuck at April 06, 2017 11:39 AM (nlbfN)

475 "Yet Socrates himself is particularly missed. A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed."

Posted by: Russkilitlover at April 06, 2017 11:39 AM (xiapr)

476 nood

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 06, 2017 11:39 AM (zQ1pD)

477 I'm too lazy to look it up, but apparently there's a Robert Redford movie coming out where he plays a scientist who definitively establishes that there is an afterlife, and people begin killing themselves to get there.

I expect it to be gratuitously anti-religion.

And I'd take that pill. In a fucking heartbeat.


Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (X6fMO)


I want somebody to go there and come back first. Tell me what the work hours are like, and how often we get breaks.

And the average ambient temperature of the job site, as well as some word on whether the overseers carry pitchforks or not.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 06, 2017 11:39 AM (TOk1P)

478 It's not insane. I was going to meet my gay BFF Julio for a soy latte at Starbucks the other day & he never showed up. He's not answering my texts, he hasn't posted anything on facebook - I think he may have been taken to the Trump camps.

Posted by: josephistan at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (7HtZB)



Start mailing pink triangles to Joss. I went to my friend's place and this was all I found there!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 06, 2017 11:39 AM (493sH)

479 Scott Adams with interesting take on Syrian gas attack. I think it is a good analysis, but one quibble, relies on rational actors and not so sure Syria has many.
Posted by: blaster 

That is a good take. It's logical.

Islamists have a long history of making shit up. It's even endorsed policy in their war manual/holy book.

Those who do not learn from history are destined to annoy me.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 06, 2017 11:40 AM (HTdUD)

480 I meant the Russian hacking of the election thing. Trying to cope with the loss of the election.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 06, 2017 11:38 AM (kTF2Z)

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I know.

I just think its ridiculous that the modern day leftists are concerned about Russian Influence.

Their entire movement is rooted in Russian influence.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 06, 2017 11:40 AM (8XRCm)

481 Not just SCOTUS justice Cruz, but Cruz in RBG's seat. Posted by: The James Madison at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (ELUpj)

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I'm betting on Mike Lee.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 11:41 AM (MIKMs)

482 ** dang! stuck with a banned AT&T IP again -- try #2 to comment: **

Morning, Glories, what's left of it.

Just went back and read the EMT, links (some of them) and comments.

And yet we're still on the Ahrt Threade?

In the words of Richard Dreyfuss, "this means something!" (e.g. Needs gravy.)

Posted by: mindful webworker - slow, but slow at April 06, 2017 11:41 AM (bF/TV)

483 there is an afterlife, and people begin killing themselves to get there.

I saw a trailer for that.
Was of the opinion that the idea is that people are all het up to get to the afterlife, without considering that if there's a heaven, there might also be a hell, and which one do you end up in?
Maybe that was my mistaken take on it though, or maybe I'm thinking of a different movie...

Posted by: GMan at April 06, 2017 11:41 AM (sxq57)

484 I'm pretty sure they're fucking our cheerleaders too.

But enough about Lindsay Graham.

Posted by: DaveA at April 06, 2017 11:41 AM (FhXTo)

485 481 Not just SCOTUS justice Cruz, but Cruz in RBG's seat. Posted by: The James Madison at April 06, 2017 11:35 AM (ELUpj)

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I'm betting on Mike Lee.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 11:41 AM (MIKMs)

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I would be good with that.

Hell, I'd be good with a Kennedy clone replacing RBG.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 06, 2017 11:42 AM (ELUpj)

486 Re: Nuclear cloture

Thanks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at April 06, 2017 11:43 AM (fD1ST)

487 "the discovery" isnt about religion so much as about midlife crises, based on the (leftist) reviewers I saw. if it was anti religion ("the invention of lying", "sausage party") the reviewers would notice and applaud.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 06, 2017 11:43 AM (DeO5Y)

488 The MSM is always going to spin things. Those that listen to them already believed there was a problem, those that don't listen to them already know the script and don't pay them any attention. So "how the MSM is going to spin this" should never be a consideration in a political action.

Posted by: goodluckduck at April 06, 2017 11:43 AM (yqvys)

489 I am pretty sure there is a hell and I'm going there, so there is no way I'm taking that pill

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 06, 2017 11:44 AM (DeO5Y)

490 Looks like Socrates was put to death for his GAINZ

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 06, 2017 11:44 AM (PqqkK)

491 344 I just can't figure out why the Russians (eleventy!) are the big bad here and what the endgame is for declaring virtual war. Geopolitically, they are sometimes adversaries and sometimes allies -- just like every other country. Of course, there are lunatics like McCain who don't believe that countries can govern themselves and have their own interests, but what is the purpose of picking a fight with another country.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 11:01 AM (MIKMs)


The way I see it is that Putin and Trump are both nationalists. The globalist Davos crowd really, really don't want to see us cooperating or collaborating in any way, shape, or form. Heck, if both countries were to be crippled or destroyed by a war, that would remove a couple of major roadblocks to World Government.

Posted by: rickl at April 06, 2017 11:45 AM (xjiRE)

492 490 Looks like Socrates was put to death for his GAINZ
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 06, 2017 11:44 AM (PqqkK)



I thought they were giving him the drink to prepare for his colonoscopy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 06, 2017 11:47 AM (SRKgf)

493 The reason Nunes is stepping down is not because the investigation was getting too close to dem leadership, rather it was getting too close to many repubs. This will die the same way the IRS debacle died.

It's almost time to take a second look at the actions of the British in 1812.

Posted by: Soona at April 06, 2017 11:47 AM (Fmupd)

494 Germany.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 06, 2017 11:09 AM (MIKMs)

Germany is a democracy, and not actively pursuing domination of its neighbors.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 06, 2017 11:52 AM (rF0hx)

495 In the face of the Trump terror, Barry Manilow does the manly, brave thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 06, 2017 11:56 AM (ZO497)

496 I thought they were giving him the drink to prepare for his colonoscopy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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It would be a tough call.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 06, 2017 11:57 AM (ZO497)

497 bullpucky! That is the best painting, ever. We need more of this on the mid-morning artsy thingamajig. I, just like everyone else, love to look for the sniper and try to find the cat, but art, real art, has made a guest appearance on the thread today and the bar has been raised. Superior choice blogger!

Posted by: goon at April 06, 2017 12:06 PM (EaQ6/)

498 OK!
Katie Genevieve Bigby born yesterday at 530pm 6lbs whatever ounces
Mom and baby doing fine. Dad running around like a headless chicken.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at April 06, 2017 11:22 AM
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That's wonderful! Much love and good wishes to the Bigby family.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 06, 2017 12:10 PM (HiDrR)

499 Dear Democrats,

Long loverdue shipment of Fuck You just arrived. From 1987.

Who'd like to sign for it?

Posted by: Zombie Robert Bork at April 06, 2017 12:11 PM (JJzaE)

500 The death of Socrates, re-enacted. "Hoooooogannnnnnn."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVc8jwYexjE

Posted by: Squints at April 06, 2017 01:11 PM (zziHT)

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