Sunday Morning Book Thread 04-02-2017


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Library of Colonel Kurtz

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are gorgeous, safe spaces are underneath your house and are used as protection against actual dangers, like natural disasters, or Literally Hitler, and special snowflakes do not last. And unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which look to be of the sort that Goldie Hawn used to wear on Laugh-In.


Children's Books

“What do they teach them at these schools?”

--C.S. Lewis, The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe

Hey, how many of you are old enough to remember when the worst book we could possibly think to give to children was Heather Has Two Mommies? Well, those were the good old days. Because now there's Jacob's New Dress, and it's every bit as bad as you might think:

Jacob loves playing dress-up, when he can be anything he wants to be. Some kids at school say he can’t wear “girl” clothes, but Jacob wants to wear a dress to school. Can he convince his parents to let him wear what he wants?

The progressive full-court press for even greater levels of public perversity proceeds apace. Sometimes I think this is like a drug they're addicted to: they need larger and larger doses to get the same high. Eventually, though, they're going to run out of perversity to promote, so then what are they going to do?

I don't think this is a real book, or at least, I think it's just somebody's experiment. But the main character, a little boy, is told that his aborted sister, whom he imagines is sometimes there with him, is a "happy ghost".

And then there's The Pumpkin and the Pantsuit, which, again, is an actual children's book, not an Onion parody, which claims to answer the question

"How do we explain the 2016 election to our kids?", this book is a cautionary tale of two big personalities who run against each other for the highest public office in the land.

In the cover art, the pantsuit is smiling and waving while the pumpkin is all shouty and rage-stroking. So you can see how this one is going to go.

Hillary wants you to know that she's a religious person:

Abingdon Press acquired world rights in all formats to Strong For a Moment Like This—The Daily Devotions of Hillary Rodham Clinton, a collection of daily devotions written for the former secretary of state and the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee. Slated to publish on August 15, each of the 365 devotions are written by pastors who provided Clinton with spiritual support during the presidential campaign, including her pastor and friend, Rev. Dr. Bill Shillady.

“During the campaign, the emails from Bill were the first I opened each morning. They gave me strength,” Clinton said in a statement released by Abingdon.

Can't wait.

(h/t FenelonSpoke)

Meanwhile, progressives are all, like, WHAT WE DO NOW: Standing Up for Your Values in Trump's America. Because for progressives, controlling the mainstream media, the entertainment industry, academia, and book publishing just isn't enough. They still feel stifled because of the existence of Donald Trump.

This is a collection of essays written by an assortment of progressive nincompoops whose politics run the gamut from 'far left' to 'loony left':

Among the contributors are Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Gloria Steinem, Paul Krugman, Robert B. Reich, George Saunders and Dave Eggers as well the heads of the ACLU, the NAACP, the Sierra Club, the Arab American Association, the National GLBTQ Task Force, the Freedom of the Press Association, and other prominent activists.

I'm sure they're just full of ideas whose time has come - and gone. I'm disappointed that Ruth Bader Ginsburg doesn't have one in there about the glories of eugenics.

This one seems a bit premature, but The Case for Impeachment, by Allan J. Lichtmann, which claims to show

...exactly how the impeachment of President Trump might work by showing how his actions—past or future—make him uniquely vulnerable to impeachment proceedings.

This is really quite remarkable, saying that a sitting president will be impeached based on actions he hasn't done yet. That must be quite a crystal ball he's got.



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Renishaw Hall Library, Derbyshire, England

30,000 books and a Ghost

That's some private library:

More than 30,000 books, collected over hundreds of years, line the walls of Renishaw Hall in Derbyshire. This “house of books”, as described by its owner, Alexandra Sitwell, was the inspiration for her ancestors, the literary Sitwell trio, siblings who established themselves as rivals (or pretenders) to the Bloomsbury Set in the Twenties and Thirties.

The article is chiefly about the eccentric goofballs who lived in the building. Not much to say about it, just wanted an excuse to put up another classy and luxurious library pic.

(h/t to KT, she of the green thumb)


What Do You Do When The World Ends?

Answer: save the books.

In the hopes of protecting the world's most important books, a second 'Doomsday Vault' has been opened in the frozen Arctic wasteland of Svalbard, Norway.

The precious books will be stored in digital form, allowing them to survive the most extreme conditions, including nuclear war.

A *second* 'doomsday vault' for books? You mean there's another one? Actually no, they're referring to the Svalbard Global Seed Vault that was established in 2006 as a safeguard against agricultural disaster.

So it's just like this seed archive, only for books. But, surprisingly, the books aren't going to be stored on digital media, but rather

Incredible new technology by a firm called Piql, will be used to store data as film, rather than hard drives, or other forms of storage.

Because

Magnetic storage media is short lived and best used for backups, while security and privacy issues make the cloud unsuitable for the purpose. It is estimated that 5% of the world’s digital data requires secure, long-term preservation.

If I filled up a thumb drive and then just left it there, how long would it last before the magnetic properties essential for data storage start to decay? Years? Decades? Not good enough:

“Our goal has been to keep valuable digital data securely preserved and accessible for 500 years. Ensuring that the data cannot be modified or deleted is imperative in this context,” explained Rune Bjerkestrand, managing director of Piql AS. “A true preservation solution must also secure future access independent of availability to specific technologies or vendors.”

According to Piql, data archived with their system is copied to "a true WORM (write once, read many) medium", making it impossible to modify or delete recorded data. However, the data is also searchable and fully accessable within an IT environment.

Meanwhile, back at Svalbard:

The film will be stored deep inside a deep mine called Mine 3 that is frozen in permafrost, ensuring it keeps a constant temperature.

No word yet on what "important" books will be stored here as insurance against some future apocalypse. Presumably the books will be about how to grow stuff and how to build stuff and how to fix stuff, rather than diatribes against patriarchy and how gender is a social construct.

(h/t JTB)


Moron Recommendations

Caught a recommendation from simplemind one one of my pro-life threads earlier in the week: The rec is for Racketeer for Life: Fighting the Culture of Death From the Sidewalk to the Supreme Court by Joseph Scheidler, a book which

...explains how a former Benedictine monk and journalism professor was drawn into pro-life activism and describes his part in the history of the pro-life movement in the United States. Conversations, protests, and battles with clinic directors, doctors, politicians, judges, media personalities, and even other pro-lifers are woven together in this engaging account of the efforts of Scheidler and other activists to publicize the horrors of abortion, influence legislation, and, ultimately, to save lives.

Scheidler, who has fought abortion ever since the passage of Roe v. Wade in 1973, was the defendant in a RICO lawsuit brought against him by the National Organization for Women. I'm not sure how they have the standing to initiate such a suit. RICO is a tool that fedgov invented to go after the mafia and other organized crime types, so this seems to be an overreach, but what do I know, I'm not a legal expert.


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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 Huzzah!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 09:08 AM (PhYV5)

2 *dances jig of triumph*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 09:08 AM (PhYV5)

3 And that my friends, is a library! Good on you Colonel.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 02, 2017 09:09 AM (tr2D7)

4 Loving “In the Mountains of Madness: the Life and Extraordinary Afterlife of H.P. Lovecraft” by W. Scott Poole. Mr. Poole writes surpassingly fine about the cramped, crabbed life of the hermit of Providence, who preferred communicating via correspondence. He has made a tale of a creepy introverted genius into a real page-turner. Poole also delves into his influence in modern pop culture, and oh let me lay this gem on you:

http://www.necronomicox.com/products/ ((NSFW!))

Need I even say that there have been films with titles like “Booty Call of the Cthulhu”?
Of course red-state, repressive, Eisenhower-era America is the most ghastly horror of them all!

Last week I checked out two SF books by Becky Chambers, “The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet” and “A Closed and Common Orbit”, based on the coolth of their covers and positive reviews. The first is basically a road trip story with our young naif joining a ragtag group of oddballs both human an alien aboard a ship designed to punch wormholes in the fabric of space. It’s all very lighthearted and good-natured, a cozy sci-fi if you will, but there’s an awful lot of SWJ wish-fulfillment. Humanity has by this time melded into an interracial toasty brown (the one white character in the tale is a weird cranky paleface descended from a scientists’ colony on Ganymede). Humans have expanded into the galaxy but have learned humility when comparing themselves to superior alien societies (Why are humans so violent and competitive? wonders the large reptiloid with teeth and claws). There’s interspecies love, human-robot love, same-sex love, and intra-self love (one character identifies as two persons inhabiting one body). I wanted to like it more but the gentle nudges into enlightenment were aggravating. I gave up about halfway in. Maybe others have read them and can convince me to continue? Hey, don’t get me wrong, I’m all about the cross-species cultural and intellectual fertilization, baby, and anybody who loves SF as much as I do will grant personhood to just about any sentient being. It was just so proud of its inclusiveness.

And on the recommendation of a Horde reader I checked out Charles McCarry’s “Shelley’s Heart” about election tampering in a heated contest between a conservative businessman and a liberal professional politician. Very prescient even though written in the mid-90’s. Read it and see if you won’t nod in recognition at just about every page. I enjoyed it so much I got the novel preceding this one, “The Better Angels”.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 09:10 AM (PhYV5)

5 This week I finished 'Gallows Thief', Bernard Cromwell. A tip o' the hat to the reccomending Moron(s). It has been so long since I read any of the 'Sharpes' books that I had forgotten that Cornwell was the author.

It's a light, interesting read, and reflects Cornwell's grasp of the history of that era. It is at times quite humorous.

Continuing in the vein of some light fiction, for a change, this week I started the second in the 'Camel Club' series by Baldacci, titled 'The Collectors'. Contemporary political intrigue. Entertaining, it is.

Now, off to Church.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 02, 2017 09:10 AM (NBHj5)

6 This week did the first two books of Roger Zalazny's 9 Princes in Amber but kinda got bored with it and did not go on to the third book. Moved on to the Last Jihad Series. Its been a while since I read this one.


I am once again reminded in this book of how many authors take the easy way out in trying to make battle scenes involving use of US air power more interesting by employing the bad weather cliché that grounds US aircraft.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 09:11 AM (mpXpK)

7 Hmph. I could have been first. That's what I get for reading the content.

Nice library, Colonel!

Posted by: right wing yankee at April 02, 2017 09:12 AM (26lkV)

8 OK, now that photo looks a bit like my library. Minus the shelves.

Posted by: rickl at April 02, 2017 09:13 AM (sdi6R)

9 Hey, how many of you are old enough to remember when the worst book we could possibly think to give to children was Heather Has Two Mommies?


I thank God every day that I know longer have any children in school.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 09:13 AM (mpXpK)

10 My home WiFi IP address is still banned and I'll be damned if I'm going to do a long book review on my cellphone keypad.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 02, 2017 09:14 AM (HhNOL)

11 Yay Book Thread! Col Kurtz, I admire you and your library immensely. here is my willowed comment, to start the day. I posted it, as i often do, for the same reason i carry an umbrella: to ensure it doesn't rain.
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Friend of mine, former Religious Studies/Theology major, despite being a
lapsed Catholic, is writing a book on how Western Civilization and
Islam are incompatible. Says he is exclusively using mainstream
contemporary Islamic writings. He says Amazon.com is a great source for
self-publishing resources.

Posted by: goatexchange at April 02, 2017 09:14 AM (YFnq5)

12 The only reading done here this week was "Hop on Pop" and "A fish out of water" and the like. Granddaughters still reigning at Casa del Tonypete. Tomorrow would be the start of the third week here.

Today we're trying again to get them back to parental units but it's iffy. Fertility is wasted on the young - or something. Sigh.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 02, 2017 09:14 AM (tr2D7)

13 There hasn't been much reading or writing at casa yankee this week because I'm fighting a cold. I did read the first of Winston Graham's Poldark series, and found it very underwhelming. It read like a book that was supposed to have lots of action, then... didn't. It wasn't bad, but I was expecting more. And the chapters tended to end in odd spots. Alas.

I haven't decided if I want to next read Around the World in Eighty Days, or Comrade Don Camillo.

Posted by: right wing yankee at April 02, 2017 09:16 AM (26lkV)

14 Would like to see a history book thread.

Posted by: Libra at April 02, 2017 09:16 AM (u0gU9)

15 exactly how the impeachment of President Trump might work by showing how
his actions, past or future, make him uniquely vulnerable to impeachment
proceedings.



Statements like that just show how ignorant some people are on impeachment. Impeachment can be done anytime for any reason. You can impeach a President because he likes ham sandwiches if you can get the votes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 09:16 AM (mpXpK)

16 A gracious good morning to all my fellow Book Threadists. I hope those in the Virginia tornado area came though safely.

And I liked those pants on a sexy pixie like Goldie Hawn. Not so much on others.

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 09:16 AM (V+03K)

17 Good Sunday morning, horde! Continuing to read Salt, and also, Joe R. Lansdale's Zeppelins West. Zeppelins West is odd, but fascinating. Still in the early chapters.

Posted by: April at April 02, 2017 09:17 AM (e8PP1)

18 I especially like the title "How To Make Love Like a Porn Star - A Cautionary Tale" next to all the military books! This is truly a moron's library!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 02, 2017 09:18 AM (UpGcq)

19 JTB - nice Lily Tomlin reference.

Posted by: goatexchange at April 02, 2017 09:18 AM (YFnq5)

20 Scheidler, who has fought abortion ever since the passage of Roe v. Wade
in 1973, was the defendant in a RICO lawsuit brought against him by the
National Organization for Women. I'm not sure how they have the
standing to initiate such a suit. RICO is a tool that fedgov invented to
go after the mafia and other organized crime types, so this seems to be
an overreach, but what do I know, I'm not a legal expert.



Its lawfare, they know they have no case and will lose. The aim is to cost him money. In the US you can sue someone because you think they are ugly.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 09:19 AM (mpXpK)

21 Oh, and, shameless pimpage of the book https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XC9X5R4/

Posted by: right wing yankee at April 02, 2017 09:20 AM (26lkV)

22 17 Good Sunday morning, horde! Continuing to read Salt, and also, Joe R. Lansdale's Zeppelins West. Zeppelins West is odd, but fascinating. Still in the early chapters.
Posted by: April at April 02, 2017 09:17 AM (e8PP1)
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That's on my stack of "to reads"! One of many stacks, if I'm being honest.

I got derailed by my new (old) McCarry.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 09:20 AM (PhYV5)

23 10
My home WiFi IP address is still banned and I'll be damned if I'm going to do a long book review on my cellphone keypad.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 02, 2017 09:14 AM (HhNOL)

Have you tried unplugging your WiFI and router for 5 min and then plugging it back in to get a new IP address?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 09:21 AM (mpXpK)

24 Colonel Kurtz's library is just so proper. Books stuffed every which way they will go on the shelves, non-book items put there because it was convenient, and double stacking where possible. The only thing missing are the boxes of books there wasn't room for on the shelves. A cat is optional.

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 09:22 AM (V+03K)

25 Vic @ 20 - Any tool the government creates for a "good" purpose, such as RICO, will be used against political opponents.

Posted by: Butch at April 02, 2017 09:23 AM (hXu8T)

26 I see the book on sniper techniques, right side, third shelf up, next to the ale stein.

Posted by: goatexchange at April 02, 2017 09:23 AM (YFnq5)

27 "I'm not sure how they have the standing to initiate such a suit. RICO is a tool that fedgov invented to go after the mafia and other organized crime types, so this seems to be an overreach, "

You can bring a civil lawsuit under federal RICO. Many states have their own RICO statutes.

Not an expert on standing. JUst know it gets squirrerly

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 09:23 AM (bQxkN)

28 This has been a good week for Kindle books at excellent prices.

I came across mention of "Beauty and the Beast" in the original French. Unlike a certain two hour cartoon, this is only thirty pages but it is illustrated by Walter Cline. The illustrations and page designs look like William Morris met Beatrix Potter. The effect is lovely. I figure I'm getting about 70 percent of the text, maybe more. A number of comments mentioned reading this with their kids to introduce youngsters to a different language and older style art. $1.68 for this.

In a similar vein, I found "Les Contes de Perrault". Charles Perrault, a leading French academic, wrote down many of the fairy tales common in 17th century France and his book was an influence on the Brothers Grimm a century later. The stories include familiar ones like Red Riding Hood, Sleeping Beauty, and others, some I had never heard of. This edition is illustrated by Gustave Dore. Another beautiful volume. $2.51 is a good price. I'm hoping these stories and the way they were written will give me some insight into the culture of the period.

Finally, I happened across ebook versions of "Galactic Patrol" and "Grey Lensman", two of the Lensman series by E.E. Doc Smith. I've treasured these and the Skylark series since grade school. Unlike some earlier ebook editions of Doc Smith's stories, abridged and poorly scanned, these two are complete and well done with very few typos. And they fit into the continuing 'my brains are sludge from this damn head cold so I'm not reading anything difficult' motif. These are just fun. Considering my old paperback versions are showing serious age and use trauma, these are handy and only 99 cents each. I hope they do the whole series eventually.

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 09:24 AM (V+03K)

29 Yeah, I'm loving Col Kurtz's library. In addition to weaponry and cat guardian, I would add beer steins as necessary embellishments.

I see on the colonel's militaria shelf a book called "If the Allies Had Fallen". Is this a good one?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 09:24 AM (PhYV5)

30 Because now there's Jacob's New Dress, and it's every bit as bad as you might think:

I'm thinking of writing a book 'Why Jacobs Dad Moved Out'.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 02, 2017 09:25 AM (ZFUt7)

31 I believe....The film will be stored deep inside a deep mine called Mine 3 that is
frozen in permafrost, ensuring it keeps a constant temperature.

I think that important documents are still microfilmed? Salt mines are used. Of course you don't really need electronics to read micro film. Sort of like Hollywood was going to switch to video tape for movies, great idea at the time. I remember watching a movie shot all on tape, I'd bet it doesn't exist anymore.

Posted by: Colin at April 02, 2017 09:25 AM (odQZE)

32 25
Vic @ 20 - Any tool the government creates for a "good" purpose, such as RICO, will be used against political opponents.

Posted by: Butch at April 02, 2017 09:23 AM (hXu8T)

Yes, but still lawfare bordering on a frivolous suit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 09:26 AM (mpXpK)

33 I finally finished "Sons and Soldiers" and posted a review on Amazon. Briefly, it's a fascinating account of the German-Jewish refugees who enlisted or were drafted into the US Army, and wound up serving as intelligence specialists in the advance across France and into Germany in WWII.
Easy and fascinating read - review here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062419099

Other than that - working away on the next Luna City chronicle, which should be out by June.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at April 02, 2017 09:26 AM (xnmPy)

34 I read Requiem for an Assassin by Barry Eisler. This is the sixth book in the John Rain series. Rain is a Japanese-American assassin who is trying to retire. His nemesis, Jim Hilger, a rogue CIA operative, kidnaps Dox, Rain's best friend and partner, to persuade Rain to do three more jobs. The jobs are tied to a bigger plot of set off a dirty bomb in Rotterdam's petro-chemical area. No early retirement for John Rain.

Posted by: Zoltan at April 02, 2017 09:28 AM (mB70I)

35 Satanism is a religion....right?

Posted by: BignJames at April 02, 2017 09:28 AM (x9c8r)

36 I came across mention of "Beauty and the Beast" in
the original French. Unlike a certain two hour cartoon, this is only
thirty pages but it is illustrated by Walter Cline. The illustrations
and page designs look like William Morris met Beatrix Potter. The effect
is lovely. I figure I'm getting about 70 percent of the text, maybe
more. A number of comments mentioned reading this with their kids to
introduce youngsters to a different language and older style art. $1.68
for this.



In a similar vein, I found "Les Contes de Perrault". Charles
Perrault, a leading French academic, wrote down many of the fairy tales
common in 17th century France and his book was an influence on the
Brothers Grimm a century later. The stories include familiar ones like
Red Riding Hood, Sleeping Beauty, and others, some I had never heard of.
This edition is illustrated by Gustave Dore. Another beautiful volume.
$2.51 is a good price. I'm hoping these stories and the way they were
written will give me some insight into the culture of the period.



Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 09:24 AM (V+03K)

Those sound awesome- not that I need to add to my list of of books to be read; it's longer than my arm. But I'm trying to get back into reading in French, and something short and light sounds much easier than slogging through Dumas at this stage.

Posted by: right wing yankee at April 02, 2017 09:30 AM (26lkV)

37 "Abingdon Press acquired world rights in all formats to _Strong For a Moment Like This -- The Daily Devotions of Hillary Rodham Clinton_, a collection of daily devotions written for the former secretary of state and the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee."

Golly gee whillickers, with material like this being released, surely it won't be long before we get an archivally bound, low-acid-paper, collector's-edition version of the transcripts from Hillary's White House seances of the 1990s, featuring Hilldawg chatting amicably with the shade of Eleanor Roosevelt and whatnot.

After all, you can't spell "Party Of Science" without "seance", hmmm?

Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2017 09:32 AM (noWW6)

38 27
"I'm not sure how they have the standing to initiate such a suit. RICO
is a tool that fedgov invented to go after the mafia and other organized
crime types, so this seems to be an overreach, "



You can bring a civil lawsuit under federal RICO. Many states have their own RICO statutes.



Not an expert on standing. JUst know it gets squirrerly

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 09:23 AM (bQxkN)

Standing is not based on the law being used as a reference for the suit. Federal rule for standing (which most States also use)

Person bringing suit must show the action in question is causing them harm (injury in fact)
There must be a causal connection between the injury and the conduct
complained of, so that the injury is fairly traceable to the challenged
action of the defendant and not the result of the independent action of
some third party who is not before the court.

It must be likely, as opposed to merely speculative, that a favorable court decision will redress the injury.

As I said, you can sue for anything.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 09:32 AM (mpXpK)

39 19 ... "JTB - nice Lily Tomlin reference."

goatexchange, If they are going to wear hip huggers, they should have hips.

Hawn - 1
Tomlin - 0

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 09:35 AM (V+03K)

40 I don't get how an advocacy organization like NOW or the Sierra Club seemingly has more standing than individual citizens

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 09:35 AM (bQxkN)

41 Preserving books for 50 years?


Hmm....Sumerians used clay tablets and the've lasted 5000 years.

Posted by: BignJames at April 02, 2017 09:37 AM (x9c8r)

42 40
I don't get how an advocacy organization like NOW or the Sierra Club seemingly has more standing than individual citizens

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 09:35 AM (bQxkN)

NOW probably doesn't have "standing" but that doesn't matter if they can shop for the right judge. I have seen cases where the judge granted standing for some pretty awful shit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 09:37 AM (mpXpK)

43 500 years. yeesh

Posted by: BignJames at April 02, 2017 09:37 AM (x9c8r)

44 I read "The Chameleon's Shadow" by Minette Walters, who is a new-to-me author. Very good thriller set in England with an injured war vet as the main character. Is he responsible for the murder of three gay men? Very readable and kept me up late to finish the book.

Posted by: biancaneve at April 02, 2017 09:39 AM (A/iod)

45 33 I finally finished "Sons and Soldiers" and posted a review on Amazon.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at April 02, 2017 09:26 AM
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See Women in the Fatherland by Claudia Koonz.

She describes Nazi social structure comprised of only women as "mothers" and men as "soldiers," with other social roles, such as wife, or son being discouraged.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 02, 2017 09:40 AM (EZebt)

46 Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2017 09:32 AM (noWW6)

You should get a membership upgrade for that post.

Posted by: BignJames at April 02, 2017 09:40 AM (x9c8r)

47 Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 02, 2017 09:14 AM (HhNOL)

Were you able to recycle your IP?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 02, 2017 09:41 AM (rF0hx)

48 Preserving books for 50 years?





Hmm....Sumerians used clay tablets and the've lasted 5000 years.

Posted by: BignJames at April 02, 2017 09:37 AM (x9c8r)

The oldest book in my little library was printed in 1793..Still in great shape, even though I don't take any special care of it. But I'm sure libraries have much older books than that, especially university libraries.

Posted by: Colin at April 02, 2017 09:43 AM (odQZE)

49 It looks like Col. Kurtz keeps his sabres in the umbrella stand, where they probably belong.

One of my deepest held beliefs is that there is never enough shelf space.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 02, 2017 09:43 AM (0hI48)

50 Oh one more item for standing: It is automtatically granted by law. Our civil rights laws do that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 09:45 AM (mpXpK)

51 @35 - Apparently, satanism is alive and well in the Vatican and has been for a while. I just got Windswept House, by Malachi Martin, from the 'brary, which is said to contain thinly veiled descriptions of the major players and how they were "recruited" into the Church. The most-popular hotspot for current recruitment is the gay bar scene in Rome.

I recalled shortly after TFG was elected and people started digging into his background that someone published a copy of the check penned by a Chicago archbishop to Barry for some nefarious purpose.

Read the comments on Amazon. Chilling.

On a much lighter note, I'm halfway through A Simple Act of Gratitude (How Learning to Say Thank You Changed My Life), by John Kralik, which was recommended in the comment section of a Catholic Lenten devotional that arrives daily.

So a wildly successful attorney's life falls apart and he decides to write at least 365 thank-you notes over the course of a year to those who have impacted his life in the powerful to the most miniscule ways. Interesting.

BBL

Posted by: SandyCheeks at April 02, 2017 09:45 AM (joFoi)

52 Yessir, that's a library! I'm going to spend a while seeing what titles I recognize.

Posted by: josephistan at April 02, 2017 09:47 AM (ANIFC)

53 10 My home WiFi IP address is still banned and I'll be damned if I'm going to do a long book review on my cellphone keypad.
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 02, 2017 09:14 AM (HhNOL)


Turn your phone into a hotspot and connect your computer to it.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at April 02, 2017 09:47 AM (6GTWP)

54 >>One of my deepest held beliefs is that there is never enough shelf space.

And Ikea claims another victim.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 02, 2017 09:47 AM (/tuJf)

55 I continued reading "The Insidious Dr. Fu Manchu". Now this is fun reading. The 'Yellow Peril' villain, London lime houses, the Oriental femme fatale who may not be (or might be) all bad, exotic dangers and means to kill, pre-WW I British prejudices, and tons of action, it has it all. Reminds me of H. Rider Haggard and Edgar Rice Burroughs.

Sax Rohmer worked on the series over several decades. I hope they continue to be this much fun.

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 09:48 AM (V+03K)

56 I'm very religious. Can't have spirit cooking without spirits.
Pass the braised fetus.

Posted by: Hillary! at April 02, 2017 09:48 AM (fYbFJ)

57 I love the idea of a doomsday library. While watching The Walking Dead, I often think that the survivors need to scavenge libraries & get books on farming, medicine, carpentry, machine repair - all the things we take for granted.

Posted by: josephistan at April 02, 2017 09:48 AM (ANIFC)

58 "Would like to see a history book thread."

Okay, until then, let me pop up with a plug for _Japanese Destroyer Captain_ by Tameichi Hara.

I have a section on the shelf here devoted to military history through the eyes of former enemies. So far as World War II goes, this is one of the best. (And there is strong competition in that genre from both other Japanese authors as well as German ones.)

One of the quietly sobering parts of the book is the retired captain relating the survival statistics for his naval academy class. Dire. It underscores how thoroughgoing and total was the defeat of the IJN in combat.

Especially into 1945, as the preponderance of forces tipped more and more against the Japanese, and the navy faced endemic shortages of fuel, food, ammunition, and adequately trained sailors. Yet the captain and his cohorts continued to take their ships to sea and to the fight.

Futile fanaticism or samurai stoicism? You be the judge.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2017 09:48 AM (noWW6)

59 Right wing yankee: I fixed your book link in #21 so it doesn't need to be shortened.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 09:49 AM (hdBlY)

60 Article on ways to change your IP address.


http://whatismyipaddress.com/change-ip

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 09:49 AM (mpXpK)

61 Yessir, that's a library! I'm going to spend a while seeing what titles I recognize.

Posted by: josephistan at April 02, 2017 09:47 AM (ANIFC)

I wanna know what's in the tupperware?

Posted by: BignJames at April 02, 2017 09:49 AM (x9c8r)

62 Tolle lege
That library does not look like the jungles of Vietnam, but I digress.
On the downhill side or Thomas Carlyle's History of Frederick II book 16 writting of the period between the wars of Silesia and the Seven Years War. I brought show and tell as in this book Voltaire figures prominently.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tafelrunde.PNG
This is a painting of one of Frederick's dinner parties which usually ran from 8pm to midnight and after the evening concert Frederick playing his flute with a couple other musicians.

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 09:50 AM (GPaiX)

63 What Do You Do When The World Ends?

Of mice men and Henry Bemis

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 09:54 AM (GPaiX)

64 I recently got back into the Warhammer 40K universe thanks to the 'lore videos' by a guy on youtube called ArchWarhammer. Fun (if dark) stuff. By coincidence, Humble Bundle currently has a whole shelf of Warhammer 40K books available. Will be grabbing them soon.

Somewhat related; I have no interest in reading the Song of Ice and Fire novels. The show is kinda interesting, but not really re-watchable, and I just don't want to spend time with any of the characters in that universe. But the universe itself is pretty interesting. Thus, I've spent a lot of time listening to the lore and conspiracy theory videos on the subject by one Preston Jacobs. It feels a little odd listening to an in-depth analysis of a work I haven't (and won't) read...but amusing nonetheless.

Posted by: Castle Guy at April 02, 2017 09:55 AM (7aeqx)

65 It must be likely, as opposed to merely speculative, that a favorable court decision will redress the injury.
As I said, you can sue for anything.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 09:32 AM (mpXpK)


Right, and if we had a just and fair legal system, Scheidler would've been able to recover his court costs from NOW or whoever it was who sued him in the first place.

Which actually would have discourged these sorts of harassing lawfare suits to begin with.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 09:55 AM (hdBlY)

66 It would be fun to have my books preserved in a vault so that in 500 years people could look at them and wonder: "WTF was he thinking?"

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 09:55 AM (V+03K)

67 Long term data storage:

http://www.sciencealert.com/
this-new-5d-data-storage-disc-
can-store-360tb-of-data-for-14-billion-years

Posted by: holographic storage at April 02, 2017 09:56 AM (OkKDg)

68 I have started reading Thomas Merton's autobiography, 'The Seven Storey Mountain'; what a totally fascinating childhood he had and his insights are so piercing. It's quite a read.

Posted by: IC at April 02, 2017 09:57 AM (gcme+)

69 The Daily Devotions affirmations of Hillary Rodham Clinton


*****


"Because I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And doggone-it, people LIKE me!"

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 09:57 AM (wPiJc)

70 Something that works for comments disappearing...that may look like an IP being banned...

Add a [ i ] (without spaces between characters) to your nic. Leave a space between the end of your nic and bracket. Don't worry, Pixy will add a [ / i ].

I think, in trying to keep mumr away, some error was added to the program code that blocked a lot of people.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 02, 2017 09:58 AM (ZFUt7)

71 65 Right, and if we had a just and fair legal system,
Scheidler would've been able to recover his court costs from NOW or
whoever it was who sued him in the first place.

Which actually would have discourged these sorts of harassing lawfare suits to begin with.


Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 09:55 AM (hdBlY)

You can recover legal costs, but you have to counter sue to do that, so due to the expense most people don't. And the whole thing gets drug out for eons and eons. Lawyers love it while the public hates it. But guess who makes the laws.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 09:58 AM (mpXpK)

72 I'd like to thank biblio for the recommendation last week of The Gargoyle by Andrew Davidson. I finished it a few days ago and also highly recommend it.

Davidson's intricate tale flashes back over seven centuries and is told from the point of view of a recovering burn patient and the woman who claims she shared a past life with him. It also touches on how manuscripts and translations were painstakingly created and maintained in the 1300s by the few who were literate and skilled and how valuable books were then.

Be aware that the text goes into graphic detail about burn injuries and recovery and also describes the narrator's former life as a male porn star before his horrific burns.

Here is a quote from the narrator/protagonist in The Gargoyle that fits in well with the book thread:

"While it is true that outside of the library I have lived a life of wickedness, inside it I've always been as devoted to knowledge as a saint to his bible."

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at April 02, 2017 09:58 AM (NqQAS)

73 Futile fanaticism or samurai stoicism? You be the judge.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2017 09:48 AM (noWW6)


Fatalism, if a lot of the kamikaze last letters are any indication. They knew they were barely trained and had little chance of finding a USN ship, much less hitting it before they were destroyed, and that the war was already lost if this was what they were resorting to, but they had no choice.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 02, 2017 09:59 AM (8nWyX)

74 BTW, IIANM most countries in Europe have "loser pays" laws. We will never get that here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 10:00 AM (mpXpK)

75 Posted by: holographic storage at April 02, 2017 09:56 AM (OkKDg)

14 billion, huh? Assuming some form of humanity is around, even for a fraction of that, what kind of languages would be in use? Would they be able to decipher the material?

Posted by: BignJames at April 02, 2017 10:00 AM (x9c8r)

76 I've said before that I can't shake the nagging feeling that I should be sealing my books in plastic and burying them in lead-lined boxes.

There are a number of ways a new Dark Age could come about besides nuclear war. The Muslims could take over and destroy books they consider un-Islamic (which is almost all of them), or the SJWs could come to power and set about "correcting" history and erasing wrongthink.

Posted by: rickl at April 02, 2017 10:01 AM (sdi6R)

77 ABC Martha Haddatz interrogating Nikki "Not her porn name" Haley: Has Trump stopped beating his wife?

Seriously, "Why isn't Trump beating on Russia?"

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:01 AM (bQxkN)

78 JTB, when I was learning Spanish I read the Asterix books in Spanish, but they are easier to find in French. I also loved the Tintin books by Herge when I was learning to read - they are also originally in French.

They both have good payoffs for the struggle of reading them, both in the jokes and in the plot elements; the slapstick humor is improved by understanding the text, which I find to be rare in kids' books. Also the adventure is enough to bring you in to the story and keep you flogging away and learning the new words.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 02, 2017 10:01 AM (0hI48)

79 There are 7 States here that have some form of loser pays laws for their State suits. There is none for federal.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 10:02 AM (mpXpK)

80 James Lee Burke. Rain Gods.

Never read anything by him before.

Crime story but oddly enough even though evil is portrayed it is not a depressing nihilistic story. It's characters are fully treated, interesting and not an ounce of un realistic nonsense.

And the writing is extremely good.

Posted by: Simplemind at April 02, 2017 10:02 AM (ZuGkg)

81 Long term data storage:



http://www.sciencealert.com/

this-new-5d-data-storage-disc-

can-store-360tb-of-data-for-14-billion-years





Posted by: holographic storage at April 02, 2017 09:56 AM (OkKDg)

Like any long term storage, will people 200 years from now even be able to read it....Since electronics change a light speed.

Posted by: Colin at April 02, 2017 10:02 AM (odQZE)

82 Reading Cuchulain of Muirthemne by Lady Gregory.

Cuchulain's sword "would cut a man in two and the one-half of him would not miss the other for some time after."

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 10:02 AM (wPiJc)

83 Dress aficionado Jason's book led me to something even worser, called "My Princess Boy" ("Dyson loves pink, sparkly things. He likes to wear his princess tiara, even when climbing trees"). One reader bought it so she could "start a conversation" with her nephew who had rigid cis-normal concepts about boy stuff and girl stuff.

The book is, get this, all about tolerance. Now I'm a little more lenient about this than some Hordelings, I'd wager, since we all knew that kid in elementary school who was a tad effeminate. I don't think at that age it is something they'd fake, and this was years before it was the hip thing.

My beef is that this is being pushed as a major issue. Instead of teaching "tolerance", how about teaching kids how to fight? Yeah, I'm horrible. I just knew this anti-bullying movement was not about empowering the weak but about corralling the strong.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:03 AM (PhYV5)

84 I think, in trying to keep mumr away, some error was added to the program code that blocked a lot of people.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 02, 2017 09:58 AM (ZFUt7)

We got rid of MUMR in another way....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 02, 2017 10:04 AM (rF0hx)

85 "Cuchulain's sword "would cut a man in two and the one-half of him would not miss the other for some time after.""

So, a katana

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:04 AM (bQxkN)

86 58

The numbers are just as horrifying for the German Navy. Almost 800 Boats and 28,000 sailors. The US Lost only 52 and 3,500.

Posted by: Bensdad00 at April 02, 2017 10:05 AM (DkRXj)

87 We got rid of MUMR in another way....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

[cues Godfather theme]

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 02, 2017 10:06 AM (fYbFJ)

88 Good morning 'Rons and 'Ettes of the book.

Finished Isak Dinesen's 7 Gothic Tales. If you like short stories, which not everyone does, I recommend this fairly highly. Lots of stories within stories, identity shifting, unfaithful narratives and active versus passive existences. It provoked lots of good book group discussions. One story in the middle was overly cryptic imo but everything surrounding it was top notch. The group's next selection is Independent People by Halldor Laxness, which was my choice.

Read a couple chapters I John Guy's Elizabeth: The Forgotten Years which cover the execution of Mary Queen of Scots, which Liz didn't really want to do until confronted with multiple plots of her death. The execution was totally fucked up as the idiot executioner first missed her neck with the axe and bashed in the back of her head. He then hit her neck but was either not strong enough or the blade was so fucking dull that it didn't sever her noggin and he had to drag it back and forth to finish the job. Needless to say this was agonizing to the recipient and witnesses, when not puking their guts out, said her lips moved back and forth for 15 minutes after being parted from her body. Also reports of Liz being the Warrior Queen was, at least in part, a hot steaming pile. She shackled Sir Francis Drake with rules of engagement that the JEF would admire. Plus she dimwittedly was engaged with peace talks with Spain which they had no intention to abide by. Fortunately Philip was as dumb as a plank in his strategy of attack. I usually find Brit history tediously dull but this is very good.

Finished a chapter in the last volume of Gibbon when John Cantacuzenus was the reluctant Emporer of Byzantium and he did his best to arrest the decline that his predecessors initiated. Between the Turks and Genoese, enemies were everywhere. Because Gibbon was so resolutely anti Christian and sucked so much muslim cock, I had to continually refer to John Julius Norwich's excellent Byzantium: The Decline and Fall to figure out just WTF was going on.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 02, 2017 10:06 AM (y7DUB)

89 76 I've said before that I can't shake the nagging feeling that I should be sealing my books in plastic and burying them in lead-lined boxes.

There are a number of ways a new Dark Age could come about besides nuclear war. The Muslims could take over and destroy books they consider un-Islamic (which is almost all of them), or the SJWs could come to power and set about "correcting" history and erasing wrongthink.
Posted by: rickl at April 02, 2017 10:01 AM (sdi6R)
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You know I back you up on this!

I don't trust electronic media to remain untampered, let alone undegraded. A physical book will always "work" as long as it is safe from the elements and critters.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:07 AM (PhYV5)

90 We got rid of MUMR in another way....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


Nurse Ratched, Posey vest, and a large needle?

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 02, 2017 10:07 AM (ZFUt7)

91 If I had the means and money to do it I would have all books reprinted in cursive, not block letters, just to piss off all those fools (and their alleged teachers) who think handwriting doesn't matter. Of course, that assumes they are capable of reading more than 140 characters at a time.

Sorry. The books OM mentioned in the post concerning sexual relativism (deviancy by a tiny minority), the utter BS with the idea of Hillary devotionals, and the arrogance of the left about Trump left a sour taste in my mouth and a desire for revenge.

Mini-rant off. Back to pleasant matters.

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 10:07 AM (V+03K)

92 "I love the idea of a doomsday library. While watching The Walking Dead, I
often think that the survivors need to scavenge libraries and get
books on farming, medicine, carpentry, machine repair - all the things
we take for granted."

Niven and Pournelle's _Lucifer's Hammer_. Key plot point.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2017 10:07 AM (noWW6)

93 For those of you who are interested in that long term storage stuff I got involved with that one time where I used to work. Federal law required us to maintain certain charts, records, and logs for the life of the plant (40+ years) plus ten years.


We were looking at going to a new type of chart recorder/indicator for a number of parameters because the old ones were wearing out. The type we wanted to go to had not been approved for "long term storage" by the NRC.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 10:07 AM (mpXpK)

94 I don't trust electronic media to remain untampered, let alone undegraded. A physical book will always "work" as long as it is safe from the elements and critters.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:07 AM (PhYV5)


Even if the media are still viable, there may not be any readers that still work. This is starting to become a problem for libraries and archives that are scrambling to find ways to extract content from floppy disks and cassette tapes while they can still find readers.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 02, 2017 10:10 AM (8nWyX)

95
Niven and Pournelle's _Lucifer's Hammer_. Key plot point. Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2017 10:07 AM (noWW6)
=====

I remember being taught how to use a slide rule -- but don't remember a thing. Make sure we have slide rules and instructions.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 02, 2017 10:12 AM (MIKMs)

96 Books printed on quality paper - not cheap wood pulp - will last for centuries.

Posted by: josephistan at April 02, 2017 10:13 AM (ANIFC)

97 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 10:07 AM (mpXpK)

Mine was an industrial gas/oil fired plant, so I'm sure rules are different,but we were upgrading to digital because for a lot of the Foxboro/Moore stuff, especially recorders, we were having to buy parts on ebay.

Posted by: BignJames at April 02, 2017 10:13 AM (x9c8r)

98 94 Even if the media are still viable, there may not be
any readers that still work. This is starting to become a problem for
libraries and archives that are scrambling to find ways to extract
content from floppy disks and cassette tapes while they can still find
readers.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 02, 2017 10:10 AM (8nWyX)

Floppy disks are generally only guaranteed for 5 years. Cassette tapes even less. The best is "microfilm" but you have to also maintain a reader along with it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 10:13 AM (mpXpK)

99 >>I love the idea of a doomsday library. While watching The Walking Dead, I
often think that the survivors need to scavenge libraries and get
books on farming, medicine, carpentry, machine repair - all the things
we take for granted."

Book of Eli.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 02, 2017 10:14 AM (/tuJf)

100 Even if the media are still viable, there may not be
any readers that still work. This is starting to become a problem for
libraries and archives that are scrambling to find ways to extract
content from floppy disks and cassette tapes while they can still find
readers.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 02, 2017 10:10 AM (8nWyX)

At garage sales you often see boxes of 8 track tapes, probably don't sell many. I'm sure there are YouTube videos on repairing the machine. Some "old" TV's from the 80's and later are almost collectors items, as they were destroyed by the millions over the years.

Posted by: Colin at April 02, 2017 10:15 AM (odQZE)

101 Even if the media are still viable, there may not be any readers that still work. This is starting to become a problem for libraries and archives that are scrambling to find ways to extract content from floppy disks and cassette tapes while they can still find readers.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 02, 2017 10:10 AM (8nWyX)
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Floppies! Precambrian!

I wonder if they still have microfiche readers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:15 AM (PhYV5)

102 "Even if the media are still viable, there may not be any readers that
still work. This is starting to become a problem for libraries and
archives"

A librarian informed me of her college institution's difficulties with legacy media devices such as VCRs (!) and their special-snowflake millennial undergraduates.

Said undergrads instinctively assume that they are omniscient little masters and mistresses of all technology, and won't read written instructions -- how old-fashioned and quaint -- and end up incompetently wrecking the stored media and the reader devices alike.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2017 10:16 AM (noWW6)

103 97 Mine was an industrial gas/oil fired plant, so I'm
sure rules are different,but we were upgrading to digital because for a
lot of the Foxboro/Moore stuff, especially recorders, we were having to
buy parts on ebay.

Posted by: BignJames at April 02, 2017 10:13 AM (x9c8r)


I would also be careful there because there are some requirements for "record keeping" for the EPA. We had a senior guy at one of out fossil plants that ran afoul of that and wound up getting fired. (and us a big fine)
Many of chart recorders were at the point where the IC shop said they could no longer get parts and could no longer repair the ones we had.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 10:17 AM (mpXpK)

104 I wonder if they still have microfiche readers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:15 AM (PhYV5)

Lots of them listed forsale on the internet, ebay, etc.

Posted by: Colin at April 02, 2017 10:18 AM (odQZE)

105 101 Even if the media are still viable, there may not be any readers that still work. This is starting to become a problem for libraries and archives that are scrambling to find ways to extract content from floppy disks and cassette tapes while they can still find readers.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 02, 2017 10:10 AM (8nWyX)
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Floppies! Precambrian!

I wonder if they still have microfiche readers.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:15 AM (PhYV5)

My dad once salvaged a microfiche reader for me from a job site. I never used it as a reader, but as a projection microscope.

Posted by: josephistan at April 02, 2017 10:19 AM (ANIFC)

106 We still have a bunch of microfilm readers and cabinets full of microfilm.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 10:20 AM (mpXpK)

107 thanks OregonMuse, for the work you put into this book thread each week.

"exactly how the impeachment of President Trump might work ... uniquely vulnerable to impeachment proceedings" Lichtmann

It reveals how Democrats are like jihadists. They have no interest in working with a duly elected president unless it is their choice. Otherwise, they seek to destroy the will of the people. They turn on a dime from "the people have spoken, mandate" to "not our president, impeach or kill".

Trump has voiced what the people have been screaming, and that makes him a unique anathema to the DC swamp. That indeed makes him "uniquely vulnerable" since he threatens to expose the DC cabal, thereby uniting "deep state globalists" beyond party lines.

Viva la counter revolucion!

Posted by: illiniwek at April 02, 2017 10:20 AM (TmCOq)

108 I inherited the lab of a psychotic colleague who hadn't done research in years, but who jealously (and obnoxiously) protected his programs, which were on ... punched cards.

I didn't have the heart to tell him that there wasn't a punched card reader left in the university, nor had there been for years.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 02, 2017 10:22 AM (SRKgf)

109 I'm thinking of writing a book 'Why Jacobs Dad Moved Out'.

If you write it, I will edit it for free and help you selfpublish.

Posted by: Anonymous-9 at April 02, 2017 10:23 AM (QEQmi)

110 Said undergrads instinctively assume that they are omniscient little masters and mistresses of all technology, and won't read written instructions -- how old-fashioned and quaint -- and end up incompetently wrecking the stored media and the reader devices alike.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2017 10:16 AM (noWW6)


Even some stuff that came out much more recently than VHS or floppies, e.g. Zip drives and media, are always inherently trying to kill themselves even on a good day.

Microfilm/fiche is probably the safest in general though. As long as the film doesn't degrade, the reader is just a lamp, a magnifying lens, and a screen.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 02, 2017 10:23 AM (8nWyX)

111 I urge you to click on the link for "The Pumpkin and the Pantsuit" if only to see what other books are recommended.

The most bestest: "When a Bully is President: Truth and Creativity for Oppressed Times". It's for ages 7-10 years. One parent complained that it didn't have enough on economic oppression. You know, if you're buying this book on your computer, you're not economically strapped, kitten.

Thank God I had parents who didn't care enough about me to ensure that I was "woke". They were so indifferent they let me play outside in the sun like an animal (I was going to say "like a savage", because they never woke my consciousness).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:23 AM (PhYV5)

112 14 billion, huh? Assuming some form of humanity is around, even for a fraction of that, what kind of languages would be in use? Would they be able to decipher the material?

Posted by: BignJames at April 02, 2017 10:00 AM (x9c8r)


Bedrich Hrozny started the decipherment of Hittite with the cuneiform hieroglyph for "bread" in an apparent rhyming couplet and then determining it was an Indo-European language, found a cognate for "water" and went on to translate the couplet to "You shall eat the bread and drink the water." This opened up a route to translation, as did the later discover of bilinguals for Hittite and Egyptian, and Hittite and other languages

With a large mass of written documents a decipherment is easy, as long as you have an idea of what the sound values of the symbols are and - as in the case of Hittite - you have a language group to allow you to cross check your determinations by cognates with other languages.

One language that defies translation is Minoan Linear A, and that is partially because written documents are rare, they are mostly lists, and also because no-one so far assign it to a language group it belongs to. Linear B is archaic Greek using Linear A characters, and this helped crack Linear B (IIRC by the word for "horse" ) but the Linear A may not be Indo-European.
It may be uncrackable if the Minoan langage was an isolate language like Basque or Korean

Posted by: Kindltot at April 02, 2017 10:24 AM (0hI48)

113 "I wonder if they still have microfiche readers."

I last used a fiche about ten years ago, to read an obscure trade press article from the 1970s. Worked just fine. The machine had been kept under a dust cover waaaaaaay in the back somewhere, no longer in public space, and someone had oiled and cleaned it.

Really not too much to go wrong with the optomechanical internals of the unit. A burnt-out incandescent illuminator could be hacked around in a pinch.

I wonder about the chemical longevity of the microfiches themselves. Acetate film, yes? And they apparently have a hard time in fires, as you would imagine. They melt together and they optically distort even when not directly exposed to flame.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2017 10:24 AM (noWW6)

114 I have 3 books to recommend:

The Lost Art of Reading Nature's Signs
How to Read Water--both by Tristan Gooley

Training for Sudden Violence--by Rory Miller

Most people will know some of the stuff in each book, but each one gave me, at least, several new ways to perceive and understand my surroundings.

Posted by: Pogonip at April 02, 2017 10:25 AM (k+XMH)

115 They melt together and they optically distort even when not directly exposed to flame.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 02, 2017 10:24 AM (noWW6)
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But the steel apparatus remains standing!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:26 AM (PhYV5)

116 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:23 AM (PhYV5)

How to raise a generation of idealogical jihadis.

Posted by: BignJames at April 02, 2017 10:26 AM (x9c8r)

117 Every few years I re-read the "Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe" series.

Other books in a regular rotation:
Last of the Breed
Starship Troopers
The Merchant of Venice
Visions of the Anointed
The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy series
The Bourne triology

Thanks to the recommendation from here, going to start "The Count of Monte Cristo" today.
Did not realize it was 1200+ pages.

A book I've been trying to finish is "Conquest: Montezuma, Cortes, and the Fall of Old Mexico."
Yeah, the Aztecs were awful people.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 02, 2017 10:27 AM (ZQpd0)

118 Chuck Todd, after being hit in a Trump tweet, going all-in about a Presidency In Crisis.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:29 AM (bQxkN)

119 Eventually, though, they're going to run out of perversity to promote, so then what are they going to do? Lol

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Is person food choice anybody's business but yours? The new book Having Friends For Dinner follows little Jeffrey Dahmer as stands up to a repressive society to become himself.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at April 02, 2017 10:29 AM (Nwg0u)

120 There hasn't been much reading or writing at casa yankee this week because I'm fighting a cold. I did read the first of Winston Graham's Poldark series, and found it very underwhelming. It read like a book that was supposed to have lots of action, then... didn't. It wasn't bad, but I was expecting more. And the chapters tended to end in odd spots. Alas.

I haven't decided if I want to next read Around the World in Eighty Days, or Comrade Don Camillo.
Posted by: right wing yankee at April 02, 2017 09:16 AM (26lkV)


I started watching the recently done Poldark series, released here by PBS, of course.

It's sour, late 18th century melodrama. I don't know how accurately it tracks with the books, but good grief. You had a template: British soldier returns from the Revolutionary War, and then... what?

Nothing, that's what. Except it's got a distinct leftish bent to it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2017 10:30 AM (Pz4pT)

121 I remember micofiche readers in the USAF, long before computers in daily life.

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 10:31 AM (GPaiX)

122 You can't search or link microfiche.

Searching and linking is huge transformational change in how we use information

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:31 AM (bQxkN)

123 118 Chuck Todd, after being hit in a Trump tweet, going all-in about a Presidency In Crisis.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:29 AM (bQxkN)
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I propose that official usage guide adds "Ginger Lawn Gnome Chuck Todd".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:31 AM (PhYV5)

124 78 ... Kindltot, Thanks for the Asterix and Tintin suggestions in French. I'll check on them.

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 10:31 AM (V+03K)

125 OregonMuse, in yesterday's chess thread you speculated that the photo taken in 1857-59 must be one of the earliest photos still extant. Not so! The oldest known photo in existence was taken in 1826, the first one showing people in 1838, and the earliest portraits date from 1839. I remember seeing a website with photos of Revolutionary War veterans, who were quite elderly by the time they were photographed.

This is a segue to the book I'm currently reading, Paul Johnson's "The Birth of the Modern". It focuses on the period from roughly 1815-1830. At the beginning of the book, Johnson says that a well-to-do Roman citizen would have found the world of 1800 more or less recognizable, but it had changed completely by 1830. Things like iron bridges, railroads, steamships, the telegraph, and more were either invented or came to fruition during this period. I'm sure he talks about photography at some point, but I haven't gotten to that part yet.

I actually started the book a year or so ago, but put it down after a couple of chapters. There's nothing wrong with it; it's absolutely fascinating. It's just that I suffer from Internet ADD as Ace wrote about the other night.

One interesting tidbit is that when steam locomotives were invented, some people thought about attaching steam engines to carriages to run on existing roads, rather than laying track everywhere. This was opposed by coach companies that carried passengers and mail. They even got legislation passed in England to discourage such a thing. The joke was on them, though, as the railroads soon ate their lunch. But it is interesting that the era of the horseless carriage could have begun over half a century before it actually did.

Posted by: rickl at April 02, 2017 10:32 AM (sdi6R)

126 Chuck Todd, after being hit in a Trump tweet, going all-in about a Presidency In Crisis.
Posted by: Ignoramuus


It's still early in the day, but it looks like the LaTimes is an early contender for daily 'Most Hysterical anti-Trump Diatribe' - west coast division.

Link Drudge, top.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 02, 2017 10:32 AM (ZFUt7)

127 At garage sales you often see boxes of 8 track tapes, probably don't sell many. I'm sure there are YouTube videos on repairing the machine. Some "old" TV's from the 80's and later are almost collectors items, as they were destroyed by the millions over the years.
Posted by: Colin
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I had a contract at one time to clear out a huge office building of everything left behind down to the walls.

I threw out hundreds of perfectly good IBM Selectrics along with dictaphones, laser disk readers (the big 12 inch ones), etc. There was no market at the time and storing them simply wasn't an option.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 02, 2017 10:33 AM (tr2D7)

128 A book I've been trying to finish is "Conquest: Montezuma, Cortes, and the Fall of Old Mexico."
Yeah, the Aztecs were awful people.
Posted by: RoyalOil at April 02, 2017 10:27 AM (ZQpd0)


Is that a version of Bernal Diaz' "Conquest of New Spain", or something more recent?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 02, 2017 10:33 AM (0hI48)

129 Hi

Posted by: Mel at April 02, 2017 10:34 AM (tZIah)

130 'Most Hysterical anti-Trump Diatribe' - west coast division.


Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 02, 2017 10:32 AM (ZFUt7)

The East coast division has been retired already. The NY Times gets all the cool awards!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 02, 2017 10:35 AM (rF0hx)

131 Hope all of the Austin 'rons/'ettes are staying safe.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 02, 2017 10:35 AM (p+V1j)

132 Yes, I saw that LA Times piece.

Amazingly deranged polemic. Goes right up to the line of demanding armed insurrection.

It's only the first in a four-part series. Don't know where they go next.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:37 AM (bQxkN)

133 Splendid Moronic library, Col. Kurtz! (Although I think you mis-shelved the linseed oil.) I am going to assume the comfy chair with kitteh is just out of the frame of the photo. Along with the sniper.

Spent yesterday making editor-requested changes to a short story I sold, a new process for me. Hope to make more writing progress today, assuming the large and heavy cat that has liquified himself on my lap ever lets me get out of the chair...

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at April 02, 2017 10:38 AM (mDjbp)

134 store data as film

I think that's called microfiche. It's not new.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 02, 2017 10:38 AM (MZcWR)

135 My beef is that this is being pushed as a major issue. Instead of teaching "tolerance", how about teaching kids how to fight? Yeah, I'm horrible. I just knew this anti-bullying movement was not about empowering the weak but about corralling the strong.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:03 AM (PhYV5)


The beef with the book about poufy little Jacob is that it crosses the line from "you shouldn't pick on poufy little Jacob" (which is fine) to "poufy little Jacob is wonderful and we should celebrate and encourage his poufiness" (which is a sure-fire recipe for social pathology).

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 10:39 AM (hdBlY)

136 My explanation to those who don't know what a micofiche reader is having a entire book on a single page and a enlarging scanner to search that page.

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 10:39 AM (GPaiX)

137 but Jacob wants to wear a dress to school

This is gonna be good! * rubs hands gleefully *

Posted by: Spike the playground bully at April 02, 2017 10:40 AM (Tyii7)

138 Captain Hate,

Halldor Laxness! What a great name!

That goes in the bin of names to modify and use in future writings.


I'd never heard of him before but "Independent People" sounds good.

I picked it up.

Anyone who gets compared to Icelandic Sagas
Plus is known for humor...

Well, that guy's got to be read.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 02, 2017 10:40 AM (9q7Dl)

139 This is a segue to the book I'm currently reading, Paul Johnson's "The Birth of the Modern". It focuses on the period from roughly 1815-1830. At the beginning of the book, Johnson says that a well-to-do Roman citizen would have found the world of 1800 more or less recognizable, but it had changed completely by 1830. Things like iron bridges, railroads, steamships, the telegraph, and more were either invented or came to fruition during this period. I'm sure he talks about photography at some point, but I haven't gotten to that part yet.

I actually started the book a year or so ago, but put it down after a couple of chapters. There's nothing wrong with it; it's absolutely fascinating. It's just that I suffer from Internet ADD as Ace wrote about the other night.

One interesting tidbit is that when steam locomotives were invented, some people thought about attaching steam engines to carriages to run on existing roads, rather than laying track everywhere. This was opposed by coach companies that carried passengers and mail. They even got legislation passed in England to discourage such a thing. The joke was on them, though, as the railroads soon ate their lunch. But it is interesting that the era of the horseless carriage could have begun over half a century before it actually did.
Posted by: rickl at April 02, 2017 10:32 AM (sdi6R)


If there was an objective list of top 10 books that everyone should read, this would be on it.

You can't know how we got from there to here, without understanding that very specific time period. And this book is as thorough (and readable) as any on the subject.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2017 10:40 AM (Pz4pT)

140 Reading "Washington's Farewell: The Founding Father's Warning to Future Generations" by John Avlon. A fascinating and really good book so far. While many have been holding up this book as warning on President Trump, it is a book that can apply to any Presidential administration. Overall, it really affirms that George Washington was our greatest President.

Posted by: Rgallegos at April 02, 2017 10:40 AM (59GQk)

141 exactly how the impeachment of President Trump might work by showing how his actions, past or future, make him uniquely vulnerable to impeachment proceedings.

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Step 1: Fake news stories about Trump sniping pedestrians from the top of Trump Tower.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at April 02, 2017 10:42 AM (Nwg0u)

142 With a large mass of written documents a decipherment is easy, as long as you have an idea of what the sound values of the symbols are and - as in the case of Hittite - you have a language group to allow you to cross check your determinations by cognates with other languages.
Posted by: Kindltot

*****

Interesting comment. It makes sense that not having a large enough body of written content makes deciphering difficult. But that makes me wonder if there is a point at which there is too much or too large a body of work in a given language to allow a rational translation.

Consider the voluminous content of the current internet in English alone. Imagine preserving that for a million years. Then imagine a future civilization trying to decipher that language. The true meaning could easily be buried in an avalanche of irrelevant, trivial, misleading or frankly wrong context.

I see some future alien archeologist writing his dissertation on "What is the meaning of 'is'?"

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 10:42 AM (wPiJc)

143 Chuck Schumer has a modest proposal. Let's not change the rules, just ditch Gorsuch and come up with a mainstream nominee

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:42 AM (bQxkN)

144 My great-grandfather was a jeweler and inventor. I am currently examining one of his old diaries...from 1886!

It's written in ink, on paper and the pages are still in good condition, but I'm photographing them and printing them out on new paper. Eventually, I have to investigate things like archival paper and inks to really make certain the records remain.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at April 02, 2017 10:43 AM (oQQwD)

145 Searching on a microfiche was done knowing the coordinates of what you need I think by row and column or page and you could zoome around by hand on that film page.

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 10:43 AM (GPaiX)

146 OM, Thanks for another wonderful book thread. The effort you put into it is a weekly treasure.

The suggestion of a thread on history books is interesting but should be separate from this one and weekly or at least monthly. The range of interests concerning history and books in the Horde is probably unquenchable.

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 10:43 AM (V+03K)

147 Among the contributors are Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Gloria
Steinem, Paul Krugman, Robert B. Reich, George Saunders and Dave Eggers
as well the heads of the ACLU, the NAACP, the Sierra Club, the Arab
American Association, the National GLBTQ Task Force, the Freedom of the
Press Association, and other prominent activists.


Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends!

Posted by: Mos Eisley at April 02, 2017 10:43 AM (Tyii7)

148 OregonMuse, in yesterday's chess thread you speculated that the photo taken in 1857-59 must be one of the earliest photos still extant. Not so! The oldest known photo in existence was taken in 1826, the first one showing people in 1838, and the earliest portraits date from 1839. I remember seeing a website with photos of Revolutionary War veterans, who were quite elderly by the time they were photographed.

Posted by: rickl


Yes, thank you, I saw your comment in the chess thread. Looks like I was wrong by quite a margin.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 10:44 AM (hdBlY)

149 naturalfake,

Enjoy! It's very good/great and is a reread for me.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 02, 2017 10:44 AM (y7DUB)

150 Trump's shooting pediatricians???

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 10:44 AM (wPiJc)

151 144 That is awesome, make a multiple copy to back it up.

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 10:44 AM (GPaiX)

152 143
Chuck Schumer has a modest proposal. Let's not change the rules, just ditch Gorsuch and come up with a mainstream nominee

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:42 AM (bQxkN)

I have a modest proposal for Shitty Schumer. DIAF asshole.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 10:45 AM (mpXpK)

153 Oregon Muse in the post above:
"... Even if it's these pants, which look to be of the sort that Goldie Hawn used to wear on Laugh-In."

Me, two book threads ago, comment #90:
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=368880
"Didn't Goldie Hawn wear those pants on Laugh-In?"

What are you, Amy Schumer? Where's my 2¢ royalty?

Morning, readers.

Posted by: mindful webworker - look that up in your F&W at April 02, 2017 10:45 AM (cN1tG)

154 Most of the way through "Clans of the Alphane Moon" by Philip K. Dick. One of his better ones in my opinion.

The biggest problem with Dick is that, after he creates these incredible worlds, amazing creatures, and imaginative ideas, he gets distracted by trivia and follows an uninteresting path through what he has created. Not all the time, but enough so that he can be frustrating.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 02, 2017 10:45 AM (MZcWR)

155 but Jacob wants to wear a dress to school

This is gonna be good! * rubs hands gleefully *

Posted by: Spike the playground bully


I can see a book in *your* future, Why Jacob Gives Me His Lunch Every Day!

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 02, 2017 10:45 AM (ZFUt7)

156 Among the contributors are Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Gloria
Steinem, Paul Krugman, Robert B. Reich, George Saunders and Dave Eggers
as well the heads of the ACLU, the NAACP, the Sierra Club, the Arab
American Association, the National GLBTQ Task Force, the Freedom of the
Press Association, and other prominent activists.

Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends!

Posted by: Mos Eisley at April 02, 2017 10:43 AM (Tyii7)


"You have never seen a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 10:45 AM (hdBlY)

157 The beef with the book about poufy little Jacob is that it crosses the line from "you shouldn't pick on poufy little Jacob" (which is fine) to "poufy little Jacob is wonderful and we should celebrate and encourage his poufiness" (which is a sure-fire recipe for social pathology).
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 10:39 AM (hdBlY)


Which, if it must be said (and it shouldn't need to be said), all while you are teaching your pasty white male children to love dresses and nail polish, the darker toned fellas are growing up in a separate culture down the street, or on the other side of the tracks.

That culture is violent and racist and equates maleness with sexual conquest and shut down emotions.

When the turn finally comes, and it will, the reason white men will become extinct is in part because it chose to become extinct.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2017 10:46 AM (Pz4pT)

158 I'm reading Marco Polo's Travels again, this time for comprehension. I will probably read it a third time with an atlas to pin the route and information down again.

I had picked up a book called "Contemporaries of Marco Polo" which is a series of short books made by travelers to Central Asia and China both before and after the Mongol conquests. The introductory article is incredibly politically slanted, but the texts appear to be honest translations, and very interesting - in an antiquarian sort of way.
I have also read Mandeville's Travels as well, and as a book of facts, it is almost as inaccurate as reading the 1001 Nights as a history book

So I wanted to re-read Marco Polo to see if I can spot any folkloric explanations, definitions or old-wive's tales masquerading as fact.

For fun I'm reading O'Brien's The Mauritius Campaign.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 02, 2017 10:46 AM (0hI48)

159 There are photos of elderly Napoleoic war veterans ( ending 1815) in their uniforms

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 10:46 AM (GPaiX)

160 I started watching the recently done Poldark series, released here by PBS, of course.



It's sour, late 18th century melodrama. I don't know how
accurately it tracks with the books, but good grief. You had a
template: British soldier returns from the Revolutionary War, and
then... what?



Nothing, that's what. Except it's got a distinct leftish bent to it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2017 10:30 AM (Pz4pT)

That ties in pretty well with the book. I shouldn't have expected anything better from PBS/the BBC, but I was hoping for a decent story that was actually readable/watchable.

Posted by: right wing yankee at April 02, 2017 10:46 AM (26lkV)

161 I see London, I see France

I see Jacob's underschwantz!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:47 AM (PhYV5)

162 Schumer says Gorsuch won't get 60. Your move Turtle.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:47 AM (bQxkN)

163 My great-grandfather was a jeweler and inventor. I am currently examining one of his old diaries...from 1886!

*****


How cool is that!!!?

Any tidbits to share?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 10:47 AM (wPiJc)

164 133 ... Sabrina, Thanks for the morse code training link from yesterday. I have it bookmarked. I want to revive my CW skills.

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 10:48 AM (V+03K)

165 Care to share the code link?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:48 AM (PhYV5)

166
Searching on a microfiche was done knowing the coordinates of what you
need I think by row and column or page and you could zoome around by
hand on that film page. Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 10:43 AM (GPaiX)
=====

I think there used to be a job title called 'indexer' -- from the days of buggywhip manufacturers.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 02, 2017 10:49 AM (MIKMs)

167 >>Schumer says Gorsuch won't get 60. Your move Turtle.

And McConnell replied that he will be confirmed this week.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 02, 2017 10:50 AM (/tuJf)

168 Chuck Schumer has a modest proposal. Let's not change the rules, just ditch Gorsuch and come up with a mainstream nominee
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:42 AM (bQxkN)


Chuckie sounds desperate.

Chuckie sounds like he's squirming.

Chuckie sounds like he knows he's going to lose.

Chuckie needs to be told to go pound sand.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 10:50 AM (hdBlY)

169 Along the lines of "The Birth of the Modern" (which I need to put on my list), has anyone read the "Connections" book based on the James Burke series? The DVDs are on Amazon but they're not cheap, and the episodes are on Youtube but they look like they were filmed with a potato. Just wondering if the book might be worth tracking down.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 02, 2017 10:50 AM (8nWyX)

170 162
Schumer says Gorsuch won't get 60. Your move Turtle.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:47 AM (bQxkN)

We have known that all along. The only reason I can think of for McKonehead to drag it out is that he doesn't have even 50 votes due to RINOs/DIABLOs. The DIABLO twins have already said they will Bork him, but there are two Dems who will replace them. So there must be at least one more traitor holding out for something.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 10:51 AM (mpXpK)

171 I'd think any new storage format would be able to handle ALL books, including the PC "Dick likes to wear a dress, and Jane (Lena) fondles Sally". That way the future will understand how culture wars were fought, how the enemy infiltrated.

Back when I had more interest in old Bible texts, I'd hear stories of upper rooms in eastern lands where stacks of books were found under centuries of dust. ISIS and jihadists were intent on destroying all such history, but someone with good digital abilities could spread the whole library far and wide.

Smart people hopefully have filtered much of that out for us and advanced our societies, but the evil ones are more intent on knowledge of attaining and maintaining power, than on knowledge that spreads liberty. (Marxist "theology" versus Federalist Papers) So Obama's "academic thinkers not doers" presidency contrasts directly with Trump's "wisdom of knowledge applied" people.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 02, 2017 10:51 AM (TmCOq)

172 My beef is that this is being pushed as a major issue. Instead of teaching "tolerance", how about teaching kids how to fight? Yeah, I'm horrible. I just knew this anti-bullying movement was not about empowering the weak but about corralling the strong.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:03 AM (PhYV5)



It's not about corralling the strong.

It's about taking "agency" away from young individuals,

so that they learn the only way to solve their problems is to run to mommy/daddy/teacher - i.e.. gov't.

Yes, kids should be taught to punch the bully in the nose (or solar plexus),

taught to stand up for themselves and be strong in the face of adversity.

But, that does get Our Betters elected.


Plus, man, if you teach your kids to fight back, be prepared to go hammer and tong with the teachers and principal and everyone else.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 02, 2017 10:52 AM (9q7Dl)

173 OregonMuse, in yesterday's chess thread you speculated that the photo taken in 1857-59 must be one of the earliest photos still extant. Not so! The oldest known photo in existence was taken in 1826, the first one showing people in 1838, and the earliest portraits date from 1839. I remember seeing a website with photos of Revolutionary War veterans, who were quite elderly by the time they were photographed.

Posted by: rickl

Yes, thank you, I saw your comment in the chess thread. Looks like I was wrong by quite a margin.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 10:44 AM (hdBlY)


Related: The fascinating discussion over whether this photo is the earliest of Abe Lincoln...

http://www.lincolnportrait.com/index.asp

Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2017 10:53 AM (Pz4pT)

174 I see Jacob's underschwantz!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 10:47 AM (PhYV5)


"Lower horn", please.

Posted by: Lrrr at April 02, 2017 10:53 AM (8nWyX)

175 It's sour, late 18th century melodrama. I don't know how accurately it tracks with the books, but good grief. You had a template: British soldier returns from the Revolutionary War, and then... what?
Nothing, that's what. Except it's got a distinct leftish bent to it.

Posted by: BurtTC

*****

You nailed it Burt. What a snoozefest. The camera shots of Poldark cantering on his horse from left to right across the screen with the bluffs overlooking the sea in the background occurred with increasing frequency as the series progressed. Ga-lump, ga-lump, ga-lump



Side note: Our dog hangs out in the backyard most days. Occasionally we will look up from where we are sitting and see him trot across in front of the sliding glass door from left to right. Either Missus Muldoon or I will call out, "Poldark!"

Ga-lump, ga-lump, ga-lump!

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 10:53 AM (wPiJc)

176 "Which book would you take to a desert island?" is now "Which desert island would you take to your books?"

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 02, 2017 10:53 AM (Ndje9)

177 If an R Senator like McCain doesn't vote for Gorsuch because of the sanctity of the Senate, McConnell needs to kick them out of the party and move across the aisle.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:53 AM (bQxkN)

178 3 ... Sabrina, Thanks for the morse code training link from yesterday. I have it bookmarked. I want to revive my CW skills.
Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 10:48 AM (V+03K)


Not to be a d*ck or anything, but wouldn't it be easier for you just to turn on one of your radios, slide down to the CW portion of one of the bands, and just listen to QSOs?

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 10:53 AM (hdBlY)

179 >>We have known that all along. The only reason I can think of for McKonehead to drag it out is that he doesn't have even 50 votes due to RINOs/DIABLOs. The DIABLO twins have already said they will Bork him, but there are two Dems who will replace them. So there must be at least one more traitor holding out for something.

There hasn't been any dragging out. This is the normal process. There was no reason to go nuclear as long as the process was moving but if the Dems are dumb enough to filibuster, boom goes the filibuster.

Gorsuch will be approved.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 02, 2017 10:53 AM (/tuJf)

180 Whish I remembered what the book was on children and these games of allowing them to determine what their sex is. A author was on the radio Thursday . I thought it was a male but also Dennis Prager had on Ashley McGuire on her book Sex Scandle:the Drive to Abolish Male and Female

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 10:53 AM (GPaiX)

181 83 ... "One reader bought it so she could "start a conversation" with her nephew who had rigid cis-normal concepts about boy stuff and girl stuff."

If I had a family member trying to start such a 'conversation' with my normal kid, their ass would be handed to them in a way they would never broach the matter again. I'm enraged by this and I don't even have kids.

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 10:53 AM (V+03K)

182 torquewrench wrote: Okay, until then, let me pop up with a plug for _Japanese Destroyer Captain_ by Tameichi Hara.

I
have a section on the shelf here devoted to military history through
the eyes of former enemies. So far as World War II goes, this is one of
the best. (And there is strong competition in that genre from both other
Japanese authors as well as German ones.)

One of the quietly
sobering parts of the book is the retired captain relating the survival
statistics for his naval academy class. Dire. It underscores how
thoroughgoing and total was the defeat of the IJN in combat.

Especially
into 1945, as the preponderance of forces tipped more and more against
the Japanese, and the navy faced endemic shortages of fuel, food,
ammunition, and adequately trained sailors. Yet the captain and his
cohorts continued to take their ships to sea and to the fight.

Futile fanaticism or samurai stoicism? You be the judge.


I've read it multiple times, great book, good recommendation.

Posted by: William Alan Webb at April 02, 2017 10:55 AM (OhYcy)

183 177
If an R Senator like McCain doesn't vote for Gorsuch because of the
sanctity of the Senate, McConnell needs to kick them out of the party
and move across the aisle.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:53 AM (bQxkN)

Both McShitty and Lindsey have said they will vote for him.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 10:55 AM (mpXpK)

184 Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2017 10:30 AM (Pz4pT)

That ties in pretty well with the book. I shouldn't have expected anything better from PBS/the BBC, but I was hoping for a decent story that was actually readable/watchable.
Posted by: right wing yankee at April 02, 2017 10:46 AM (26lkV)


There are many BBC/PBS television series that are well worth watching. Poldark just isn't one of them.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2017 10:56 AM (Pz4pT)

185 113: Especially given the jihadic invasion of Norway and Sweden my first thought was one could write a suspense novel about keeping jihadis after nuclear war from getting to the films in this vault to melt them but still preserve the secret of how to get to the knowledge store for a future civilization.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 02, 2017 10:56 AM (Jen0I)

186 #118

Chuck Todd, after being hit in a Trump tweet, going all-in about a Presidency In Crisis.
===================

A classic example of projection. There's a big media scrum to see which dog wins the most viewers from 30% of the electorate pool. The rest of the country just rolls their eyes and puts the msm on "ignore".

Posted by: mrp at April 02, 2017 10:56 AM (Pqytn)

187 Related: The fascinating discussion over whether this photo is the earliest of Abe Lincoln...

http://www.lincolnportrait.com/index.asp

Posted by: BurtTC

*****


Before I clicked on the link I was imagining an elementary school class photo from 1816. Abe was the tall kid in the back row with the stovepipe hat and beard.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 10:57 AM (wPiJc)

188 Link to photos of Napoleoic veterns
http://mashable.com/2014/10/27/napoleonic-wars-veterans/#8RjzLfP0gEqW

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 10:57 AM (GPaiX)

189 Ugh.

That doesn't get Our Betters elected.




Carry on.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 02, 2017 10:57 AM (9q7Dl)

190 My computer will not load that page. Keep getting a page code error.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 10:58 AM (mpXpK)

191 So it'll be 52 to kill cloture on SCOTUS appointments.

Then watch a few D Senators defect and vote for Gorsuch on the merits

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:58 AM (bQxkN)

192 Uh, there is too many objects on Col. Kurtz's top shelf for a cat to be.

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 10:59 AM (GPaiX)

193 The Morse code link, wiedermal www.justlearnmorsecode.com

Speaking of old photographs, my great-uncle was a professional telegrapher. I have a photograph of a telegraph office from I think the 30's. Complete with office message boy on roller skates.

The hamsters would probably die, but it would be fun to have a Moron "oldest photo" thread!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at April 02, 2017 10:59 AM (mDjbp)

194 anyone else click the link on the "pumpkin and the pantsuit"? these people are sick....who talks politics with little children? answer: the same group that aborts babies....now they are aborting their childhood with these vile books.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at April 02, 2017 10:59 AM (0O7c5)

195 That 1826 (or 1827) photo is interesting. It was taken from a window looking into a courtyard, and required an exposure of several hours.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/k4dc5px

The shapes are barely recognizable. It looks almost like abstract art.

Posted by: rickl at April 02, 2017 10:59 AM (sdi6R)

Posted by: phoenixgirl..opening day at April 02, 2017 11:00 AM (0O7c5)

197 Some moron recommended The Sweetness at the Bottom of the Pie, a mystery by Alan Bradley featuring 11 year old Flavia de Luce, a precocious and not altogether sweet chemistry enthusiast. I read it this week and did enjoy it. An easy, fast read.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at April 02, 2017 11:00 AM (Nwg0u)

198 191
So it'll be 52 to kill cloture on SCOTUS appointments.



Then watch a few D Senators defect and vote for Gorsuch on the merits

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 10:58 AM (bQxkN)
Assuming Murkowski and Collins are willing to help nuke the filibuster...

Posted by: Jackal at April 02, 2017 11:00 AM (NiR1r)

199 " A bit premature"? That bastard Lichtmann plagiarized the book I haven't written yet.

It's about how I grew up in a small Welsh coal-mining town with Lord Neil Kinnock. It should be out just in time for the West Virginia primary.

Posted by: Joe. Bidin'. at April 02, 2017 11:00 AM (Ndje9)

200 Related: The fascinating discussion over whether this photo is the earliest of Abe Lincoln...

http://www.lincolnportrait.com/index.asp

Posted by: BurtTC

*****

Before I clicked on the link I was imagining an elementary school class photo from 1816. Abe was the tall kid in the back row with the stovepipe hat and beard.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 10:57 AM (wPiJc)


Heh. We should be so lucky. There was a photo they were talking about some short time ago, a crowd pic, I think, and they were trying to figure out if "that" guy was Lincoln. I don't know what happened to that.

I want a photo of him fighting the Mississippi as a boatman, or perhaps, doing some gen-ewe-wine railsplitting.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2017 11:01 AM (Pz4pT)

201 52- 2 +2=52

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 11:01 AM (bQxkN)

202 http://emperornapoleon.com/photos/
Trying this

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 11:02 AM (GPaiX)

203 165 ... All Hail Eris, The morse code link is

just learn morse code dot com and get rid of the spaces.

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 11:02 AM (V+03K)

204
How cool is that!!!?

Any tidbits to share?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 10:47 AM (wPiJc)

A lot of it is notes about how to wash gold in acid, how to electrify it...

In later entries there are some notes about when my grandmother was a baby, too. I could post some of the photos of the pages.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at April 02, 2017 11:03 AM (oQQwD)

205 52- 2 +2=52

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 11:01 AM (bQxkN)
I was told there would be no math on this blog. Especially not Common Core math.

Posted by: right wing yankee at April 02, 2017 11:05 AM (26lkV)

206 Assuming Murkowski and Collins are willing to help nuke the filibuster...


Posted by: Jackal at April 02, 2017 11:00 AM (NiR1r)

They have both said they will not already.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 11:06 AM (mpXpK)

207 It's about how I grew up in a small Welsh coal-mining town with Lord Neil Kinnock. It should be out just in time for the West Virginia primary.
Posted by: Joe. Bidin'. at April 02, 2017 11:00 AM (Ndje9)


IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE JOE BIDEN WAS CAUGHT PLAGIARIZING STUFF FROM NEIL KINNOCK'S SPEECHES.

Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at April 02, 2017 11:06 AM (hdBlY)

208
A book I've been trying to finish is "Conquest: Montezuma, Cortes, and the Fall of Old Mexico."
Yeah, the Aztecs were awful people.
Posted by: RoyalOil at April 02, 2017 10:27 AM (ZQpd0)

Is that a version of Bernal Diaz' "Conquest of New Spain", or something more recent?
========
By Hugh Thomas. 1993

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 02, 2017 11:07 AM (ZQpd0)

209 I wonder if that digital library of the apocalypse will have Al Gore's book "The Future: Six Drivers of Global Change".

Probably not.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 02, 2017 11:07 AM (5VlCp)

210 That's not a photo of Lincoln. The area around your eyes never changes -- that's how you can recognize baby pictures of elderly relatives. The young dude doesn't have Lincoln's eyes. QED.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 02, 2017 11:08 AM (rA7sJ)

211 "The Pumpkin and the Pantsuit"?

More like...

"The Glorious Golden Scalp Weasel of Wealth and The Soiled Depends Diaper"


Amazing. They really are going all in to get Hillary! on the ticket for 2020.

Well...I gotta admire the persistence. That's why they usually win and we're stuck with lame-ass Loser Kings like The Turtle and Eddie Munster.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 02, 2017 11:08 AM (9q7Dl)

212 They have both said they will not already.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 11:06 AM (mpXpK)
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I wasn't aware of this. I thought Collins was reluctant but would if necessary.

Posted by: WisRich at April 02, 2017 11:09 AM (OAlmw)

213 178 ... I listen to QSOs sometimes but when I fall behind because I can't remember the characters, I get lost and frustrated and quit. I do better if my CW comprehension is more complete. It doesn't have to be perfect but to the point where I can easily fill in the missed characters. I also have to re-learn the Q signs.

Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 11:11 AM (V+03K)

214 The President is hardly a lame duck two months in. But Chuck Todd wrote his own profession's epitaph:

The Left-Wing Quack-Up of the #LameDuckMedia.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 02, 2017 11:12 AM (Ndje9)

215 Muldoon, the sheer volume of English documentation, fiction, history, opinion, instruction manuals, laundry and shopping lists, graffiti, liner notes, how to books and tweets running back to Henry VIII is part of the problem we have today.
Any hypothetical alien thousands of years in the future would be able to translate English (or French or Chinese or Korean) from our writings, but they would face the same problem of what is important. The words are easy, facts are capable of being teased out, but the whole "what does it actually mean" is hard, and is based on context.
And the stuff that is done to hide facts and ideas makes it hard for us today. What does "is" mean is not an argument to bring us closer to the truth, for example

Posted by: Kindltot at April 02, 2017 11:12 AM (0hI48)

216 We don't like McCain but I do like him calling Kim Jung Un a crazy fat kid.

NK press releases are comedy gold. We're about to be hit with a merciless sledge hammer for daring to hurt the dignity of Supreme Leader like a puppy knowing no fear of the tiger. You've been warned

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 11:12 AM (bQxkN)

217 You can't search or link microfiche. Searching and linking is huge transformational change in how we use information
Posted by: Ignoramus

Exactly. Content and extraction. Consider the original Edison wax cylinders played on phonographs 100 years ago. Now available!

http://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/10000-historic-phonograph-
cylinder-audio-recordings-hit-the-web-for-free-1639065/

Other records, like aerial photographs, really cannot be duplicated, because their information content is a function of their format. The silver halide crystals of the exposed film can be digitized to a particular scan level of detail, but never really duplicated in a way that the original content can be searched or shared.

Posted by: holographic storage at April 02, 2017 11:12 AM (nIGPZ)

218 52- 2 +2=52

?! What is this sorcery?

Posted by: t-bird at April 02, 2017 11:13 AM (k8DTS)

219 212
They have both said they will not already.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 11:06 AM (mpXpK)

-------

I wasn't aware of this. I thought Collins was reluctant but would if necessary.



Posted by: WisRich at April 02, 2017 11:09 AM (OAlmw)

OK I worded that wrong. They will vote to confirm, BUT they will not vote for nuclear option.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 11:14 AM (mpXpK)

220 Sabrina Chase,

I was hoping to find you on this thread--I owe you thanks bigly for recommending the Dean/Kris workshops. The one re self-publishing is just what I need. I e-mailed, Dean said it seemed a good fit, and by the end of the day I had registered. It must be a highly sought-after workshop--I registered seven months in advance and still will be in overflow housing, not the main hotel. Wow. Thank you.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at April 02, 2017 11:14 AM (Kr0FZ)

221
I took a look at the "Sister Apple, Sister Pig" link and a couple of more links to the "artist".

Revolting. I'm out...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot at April 02, 2017 11:14 AM (v1g1+)

222 >>I wasn't aware of this. I thought Collins was reluctant but would if necessary.

Yea, that's what I've heard as well. There is literally no reason for the Republicans to have a majority if they fold on this. They didn't hold up Garland for a year just so they could give it away.

Only suspense for me is whether or not the Dems want to kill the filibuster.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 02, 2017 11:15 AM (/tuJf)

223 That's not a photo of Lincoln. The area around your eyes never changes -- that's how you can recognize baby pictures of elderly relatives. The young dude doesn't have Lincoln's eyes. QED.
Posted by: Trimegistus at April 02, 2017 11:08 AM (rA7sJ)


You can read the article, there are explanations for changes, including substantial weight loss in the time period between this photo and the one universally accepted as Lincoln's earliest portrait.

The author says there's no doubt about its authenticity. I guess people are welcome to dispute his conclusions.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2017 11:16 AM (Pz4pT)

224 Yeah I remember when Trump just stole the election by forcing the majority of Americans in the majority of States to voter for him. Liar.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 02, 2017 11:16 AM (OhTOr)

225 This is the earliest known photo of Lincoln. It is from 1846.


http://tinyurl.com/lzs5wep

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 11:17 AM (mpXpK)

226 I listen to QSOs sometimes but when I fall behind because I can't remember the characters, I get lost and frustrated and quit. I do better if my CW comprehension is more complete. It doesn't have to be perfect but to the point where I can easily fill in the missed characters. I also have to re-learn the Q signs.
Posted by: JTB at April 02, 2017 11:11 AM (V+03K)


I use graph paper so I can leave a block blank if I miss that character and know that it's an 'unknown', but yeah, if they go fast enough that I can't get a foothold, then I'm just listening to beeping and it's not going to me any good in learning to copy.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 02, 2017 11:17 AM (8nWyX)

227 So it looks like 52+2=54.

And no filibuster for the next one.

Chuck Schumer ... winning!

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 11:17 AM (bQxkN)

228 The first picture of Lincoln
http://rogerjnorton.com/photos/abraham23.html

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 11:19 AM (GPaiX)

229 Does this Hello Kitty lunchbox make my butt look big?

Posted by: Jacob at April 02, 2017 11:19 AM (Tyii7)

230 208
A book I've been trying to finish is "Conquest: Montezuma, Cortes, and the Fall of Old Mexico."
Yeah, the Aztecs were awful people.
Posted by: RoyalOil at April 02, 2017 10:27 AM (ZQpd0)

Is that a version of Bernal Diaz' "Conquest of New Spain", or something more recent?
========
By Hugh Thomas. 1993
Posted by: RoyalOil at April 02, 2017 11:07 AM (ZQpd0)

A very good book. I second the recommendation.

Posted by: josephistan at April 02, 2017 11:20 AM (ANIFC)

231 "OK I worded that wrong. They will vote to confirm, BUT they will not vote for nuclear option."

So we're back to 52 - 2 +2=52

Which makes me nervous, until its done

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 11:21 AM (bQxkN)

232 I have been thinking about that. How is it up to Collins whether or not they use the nuclear option? I thought that was up to the Senate Parliamentarian?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 11:22 AM (mpXpK)

233 I read the first two volumes of the "Lost Fleet" series by Jack Campbell, Dauntless and Courageous on airplanes while traveling for work. The premise of the series is that the protagonist, Jack Geary, has been recovered after spending a century in statis is a survival pod and discovers that he has been immortalized as "Black Jack" and given a posthumous promotion to Captain. Since he has a century-worth of time-in-grade, command of a trapped fleet falls to Geary after the Admiral is executed during a truce.

The series got mentioned on the Book Thread a while back and the two I read were fun and essentially "Horatio Hornblower in Space." An interesting idea the Campbell explores is that, after a century of war, Jack Geary begins to teach fleet tactics that had been forgotten because officers with the that knowledge died in combat. I give the books 4 out of 5 stars.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 02, 2017 11:23 AM (5Yee7)

234 My cat Cinnamon has been out cold on my lap for over a hour

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 11:23 AM (GPaiX)

235 The words are easy, facts are capable of being
teased out, but the whole "what does it actually mean" is hard, and is
based on context. And the stuff that is done to hide facts and ideas
makes it hard for us today. What does "is" mean is not an argument to
bring us closer to the truth, for example Posted by: Kindltot at April 02, 2017 11:12 AM (0hI4

=====

I distinctly remember an academic flap a few years ago when some researcher went to the original transcripts of the Haymarket trials. Lotsa huffing and puffing about the workers and oppression from the usual academic suspects. Interesting that the record was available for research, but it didn't 'fit the narrative'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 02, 2017 11:25 AM (MIKMs)

236 >>I have been thinking about that. How is it up to Collins whether or not they use the nuclear option? I thought that was up to the Senate Parliamentarian?

The Senate majority can change the rules when they want. The job of the parliamentarian is to interpret the rules.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 02, 2017 11:25 AM (/tuJf)

237 OK

The nuclear or constitutional option
is a parliamentary procedure that allows the U.S. Senate to override a
rule or precedent by majority vote. The presiding officer of the United
States Senate rules that the validity of a Senate rule or precedent is a
constitutional question. They immediately put the issue to the full
Senate, which decides by majority vote.



So if 2 Republicans say no, then no nuclear option.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 11:26 AM (mpXpK)

238 MSNBC giving Trump shit for trips to Mar-a-Lago.

But he's working weekends, holding meetings including with foreign leaders, because he can't be bugged there. No more leaks like with the Mexican President and the Aussie PM

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 11:26 AM (bQxkN)

239 Times change, and the filibuster rule has changed too. There's nothing constitutional about it.

Given that D Congresscritters only represent the D party, the filibuster needs to go

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 02, 2017 11:30 AM (bQxkN)

240 But the main character, a little boy, is told that his aborted sister,
whom he imagines is sometimes there with him, is a "happy ghost".



Oh...wow. Wow. Did a progressive just admit a "fetus" has a soul?!?!
Imagine the cognitive dissonance it takes to believe that image is sweet, heart-warming. Wow!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 02, 2017 11:33 AM (NOIQH)

241 Filibuster rule is only going to stand until the Republicans dump it or the Democrats take over whichever comes first.

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 11:33 AM (GPaiX)

242 There's a big glowy thing up in the sky. I'm off to investigate.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 11:33 AM (PhYV5)

243 then no nuclear Reid option.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 11:26 AM (mpXpK)

Say it loud. Say it often.

Posted by: golfman at April 02, 2017 11:34 AM (k0S3A)

244 So Mitch says he's going to be confirmed on Friday.

Cornyn say's he's going to be confirmed, one way or another, on Friday.

Schumer says the don't have a sixty votes.

Heck of a game of Chicken: One that the R's always lose.

Posted by: WisRich at April 02, 2017 11:35 AM (OAlmw)

245 Save the mark, but McCain just said 'how can the Syrians determine their own future'. I think even Raddatz was embarrassed.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 02, 2017 11:36 AM (MIKMs)

246 #237
So if 2 Republicans say no, then no nuclear option.
==================

Does Pence have a vote on a rules vote?

Y'know, back when LBJ ran the Senate, he usually got what he wanted.

Posted by: mrp at April 02, 2017 11:36 AM (Pqytn)

247 So if 2 Republicans say no, then no nuclear option.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 11:26 AM (mpXpK)
------

You still have Pence as tie breaker. So three R's and no deal.

Posted by: WisRich at April 02, 2017 11:38 AM (OAlmw)

248 If Schumer was smart he would take this right to the edge and then announce that they won't filibuster because the poopie head Republicans would change the rules. He'd have the media 100% in his corner, nothing new, and they could frame this as the Dems standing up for the rules and traditions of the Senate.

They have no other shot at a win.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 02, 2017 11:38 AM (/tuJf)

249 re; Gorsuch

As I understand it, some Democrat senators will invoke the filibuster (which doesn't even require long speeches anymore). When the cloture vote comes short of the 60 votes required to end the pretend filibuster, Republicans follow the path trod by the Great Statesman Harry Reid and change the rules to require only a simple majority vote.

Which is how the Senate should operate anyway, including for reconciliation votes, too.

As for the politics, I don't think Schumer has a strategy other than basic survival. After 8 years of Communizing, Democrats will punish almost any senator not frothing at the mouth-crazy.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 02, 2017 11:38 AM (Ndje9)

250 Currently reading "Common Sense Nation" by Robert Curry.

Posted by: Jingo Unchained! at April 02, 2017 11:38 AM (GdgAM)

251 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 11:17 AM (mpXpK)

I've seen one that might be a bit older. I think it's from a physician's study of Lincoln. He got kicked by a horse or something....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 02, 2017 11:39 AM (rF0hx)

252 The author says there's no doubt about its authenticity. I guess people are welcome to dispute his conclusions.

Posted by: BurtTC

*****

I agree with Trimegistus. I read through the author's analysis. It seems he is forcing the analysis, emphasizing supposed similarities and downplaying differences among the three pictures.

1. The prominent hook in midportion of the nose on the Kaplan photo would not have receded due to weight loss.
2. The contour of the upper lip looks different in #1 compared to #2 and #3.
3. The ear looks more posteriorly rotated in #1. (The author claims he did a photoshop type manipulation to 'age' the ear and made it look like #2 and #3.

Just my two cents.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 11:39 AM (wPiJc)

253 Murky and Mitch are like this. If Mitch puts the arm twist on her, it's hard to imagine she's going to tell the Senate Majority Leader to take a hike.

Posted by: mrp at April 02, 2017 11:39 AM (Pqytn)

254 >>This is really quite remarkable, saying that a sitting president will be
impeached based on actions he hasn't done yet. That must be quite a
crystal ball he's got.


"Eh, it's not that hard, really."
-- Nobel Peace Prize Committee

Posted by: Lizzy at April 02, 2017 11:40 AM (NOIQH)

255 ps: Americans don't find a simple majority vote objectionable.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 02, 2017 11:40 AM (Ndje9)

256 I still believe the Dems won't filibuster Gorsuch. They will save everything they have to fight the next nominee.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 02, 2017 11:40 AM (IDPbH)

257 I have a rule that I call the "Aunt Minnie Rule". If you see a lady walking down the opposite side of the street you will holler out, "Hi, Aunt Minnie". How do you know it's Aunt Minnie? Because it looks like Aunt Minnie, that's how.

When I apply this rule to the Lincoln photos that #1 photo does not look anything like my Aunt Minnie.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 11:40 AM (wPiJc)

258 >>Heck of a game of Chicken: One that the R's always lose.

Merrick Garland might disagree.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 02, 2017 11:40 AM (/tuJf)

259 Given the fraudulent paperwork used for financial gain that was widespread across the VA, couldn't the managers be charged under the RICO Act?

Posted by: Hillbilly Xirannosaurus at April 02, 2017 11:41 AM (NnnZy)

260 Here's an old one....

http://www.lincolnportrait.com/#

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 02, 2017 11:41 AM (rF0hx)

261 Schumer says the don't have a sixty votes.
Heck of a game of Chicken: One that the R's always lose.

Posted by: WisRich at April 02, 2017 11:35 AM (OAlmw)


This used to be true. But since the Great Entrumpening, perhaps this has changed.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 11:42 AM (hdBlY)

262 215 Muldoon, the sheer volume of English documentation, fiction, history, opinion, instruction manuals, laundry and shopping lists, graffiti, liner notes, how to books and tweets running back to Henry VIII is part of the problem we have today.
Any hypothetical alien thousands of years in the future would be able to translate English (or French or Chinese or Korean) from our writings, but they would face the same problem of what is important. The words are easy, facts are capable of being teased out, but the whole "what does it actually mean" is hard, and is based on context.
And the stuff that is done to hide facts and ideas makes it hard for us today. What does "is" mean is not an argument to bring us closer to the truth, for example
Posted by: Kindltot at April 02, 2017 11:12 AM (0hI4

Worse for the hypothetical Alien...

Fiction.... and our ability to make reality, even stranger than it...

Alien: Oh, those poor people shipwrecked on the island... Gilligan....

Alien2: Yeah, but they elected an idiot who wanted to destroy them TWICE? Obama, gotta be a Myth...

Posted by: Don Q. at April 02, 2017 11:42 AM (NgKpN)

263 Hillary used the Nixon frame up to launch her career.

Watergate happened 3 weeks after FBI Dierctor Hoover's death.

They waited until he passed and there was a power vacuum to operate in. They set up the honey pot at Watergate and dropped a dime knowing Coulson and Co would run right into the trap.

As a perfect bookend, it was an FBI Director who helped put the stink on Hillary during the election. Ok, refuse to offer any masking fragrance. She already stunk.

So they sent up the monster in a way that inflicted maximum damage and satisfied the Mafia rule that says you don't hit a made man without permission. It was straight outta Good Fellas. Election night they led her to believe she was being made when in reality it was an execution. Hillary is the Joe Pesci of politics.

And Republicans are Elephants. They never forget.

Posted by: Charley Horse at April 02, 2017 11:43 AM (+kahX)

264 The problem is, the Dems are perfectly happy with the status quo. The 4-4 split on the USSC allows the liberal courts to run amok.

Posted by: mrp at April 02, 2017 11:43 AM (Pqytn)

265
"I started watching the recently done Poldark series, released here by PBS, of course.

It's sour, late 18th century melodrama. I don't know how accurately it tracks with the books, but good grief. You had a template: British soldier returns from the Revolutionary War, and then... what? "

That's the BBC trying, but not succeeding, to capture the magic of the original 1970s "Poldark" starring Robin Ellis as Poldark and the absolutely delightful Angharad Rees as Demelza. That was Masterpiece Theater in the early years when Alistair Cooke was still introducing the dramas to the viewing audience. it was truly "must see TV" back then.

Posted by: Tuna at April 02, 2017 11:44 AM (jm1YL)

266 Given the fraudulent paperwork used for financial gain that was widespread across the VA, couldn't the managers be charged under the RICO Act?
Posted by: Hillbilly Xirannosaurus at April 02, 2017 11:41 AM (NnnZy)


Doubtful. The "corrupt organization" has to exist for no other purpose than to indulge in criminal activities. This is manifestly not the case with the CA, despite being venal and yes, corrupt.

"The He Man Women-Haters Club" would today most likely fall under the RICO statutes.


Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 11:45 AM (hdBlY)

267 Just my two cents.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 11:39 AM (wPiJc)

None of that makes any sense.

Please translate to limerick.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 02, 2017 11:45 AM (rF0hx)

268 There was once an earlier known photo of Lincoln. His mother commissioned a portrait of toddler Lincoln naked in the bathtub. But one day she showed it to his high school girlfriend and in a fit of pique young Abe tore it to pieces and threw it on the fire.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 11:46 AM (wPiJc)

269 Early photo of Joe Biden.

http://tinyurl.com/lrehepp

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at April 02, 2017 11:48 AM (Nwg0u)

270 #265

That's the BBC trying, but not succeeding, to capture the magic of the original 1970s "Poldark" starring Robin Ellis as Poldark and the absolutely delightful Angharad Rees as Demelza. That was Masterpiece Theater in the early years when Alistair Cooke was still introducing the dramas to the viewing audience. it was truly "must see TV" back then.

============

Concur.

Posted by: mrp at April 02, 2017 11:48 AM (Pqytn)

271 Murky and Mitch are like this. If Mitch puts the arm twist on her, it's hard to imagine she's going to tell the Senate Majority Leader to take a hike.
Posted by: mrp at April 02, 2017 11:39 AM (Pqytn)

Just so long as they sent the signed contracts downtown to Mitch and Murray they owe me a new Cadillac.

Posted by: Ricky Roma at April 02, 2017 11:48 AM (5VlCp)

272 258 >>Heck of a game of Chicken: One that the R's always lose.

Merrick Garland might disagree.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 02, 2017 11:40 AM (/tuJf)
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Yeah, but here's the difference. Collins, Murkowski, and McCain are not on the Judicial committee. They had no power on the decision to allow the Garland hearings to move forward.

However, once out of committee, the power moves to these clucks.

All I'm saying is watch out for these clowns to make a deal with the Dem's and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: WisRich at April 02, 2017 11:51 AM (OAlmw)

273 270

Ellis and Rees had a kind of on screen chemistry you don't see very often and the rest of the cast was a lineup of unforgettable character actors. It was a big deal back in the day.

Posted by: Tuna at April 02, 2017 11:52 AM (jm1YL)

274 The author says there's no doubt about its authenticity. I guess people are welcome to dispute his conclusions.

Posted by: BurtTC

*****

I agree with Trimegistus. I read through the author's analysis. It seems he is forcing the analysis, emphasizing supposed similarities and downplaying differences among the three pictures.

1. The prominent hook in midportion of the nose on the Kaplan photo would not have receded due to weight loss.
2. The contour of the upper lip looks different in #1 compared to #2 and #3.
3. The ear looks more posteriorly rotated in #1. (The author claims he did a photoshop type manipulation to 'age' the ear and made it look like #2 and #3.

Just my two cents.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 11:39 AM (wPiJc)


I think I am more inclined to keep an open mind on the matter. He says, for example, the earlier portrait's nose is not humped, but that on closer examination the hump is from shadow, not tissue.

Or something like that.

So I would argue, the issue is not proved. We don't know that it is a photo of Lincoln, but I believe we do not know that it is not.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2017 11:53 AM (Pz4pT)

275
"they're going to run out of perversity to promote, so then what are they going to do?"
When they run out of perversity they are going to go to torture and murder. That is the way this always plays out. In the period of the Roman Republic there were not great coliseum buildings that held giant murder-fest games. There were small arenas here and there that held fights, and were the venue for punishment of criminals. As the Empire moved on there was an ever expanding thirst for larger and larger spectacle. Hence the great games where hundreds of animals and humans might be killed in a day, under most horrific of circumstance.

I hate to say we are headed there at breakneck speed, but when you see television shows that allow "contestants" to risk their necks for a few bucks and a chance for fame how far a trip is it going to be where they offer criminals a chance at freedom if they would just take the risk of the arena?
Imagine how much insurance and feminine deodorant spray you could sell!

Posted by: Put that kid back where it came from or So Help Me at April 02, 2017 11:54 AM (HPNqc)

276
Please translate to limerick.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


******


Be Careful What You Ask For - a limerick

I'll tell you what I've been a-thinkin'
This analysis of Abe? It's a-stinkin'
But if we put them in motion
I've got half a notion
We could analyze how they're a-blinkin'

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 11:54 AM (wPiJc)

277 263
It was straight outta Good Fellas. Election night they led her to believe she was being made when in reality it was an execution. Hillary is the Joe Pesci of politics.
Posted by: Charley Horse at April 02, 2017 11:43 AM (+kahX)


I love it! I still want to see somebody's cell phone video of Hillary melting down or passing out.

Posted by: rickl at April 02, 2017 11:55 AM (sdi6R)

278 So I would argue, the issue is not proved. We don't know that it is a photo of Lincoln, but I believe we do not know that it is not.

Posted by: BurtTC

*****


Fair enough. I concur.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 11:56 AM (wPiJc)

279 That's the BBC trying, but not succeeding, to capture the magic of the original 1970s "Poldark" starring Robin Ellis as Poldark and the absolutely delightful Angharad Rees as Demelza. That was Masterpiece Theater in the early years when Alistair Cooke was still introducing the dramas to the viewing audience. it was truly "must see TV" back then.

============

Concur.
Posted by: mrp at April 02, 2017 11:48 AM (Pqytn)


My general impression of earlier Beeb productions is that the poor quality of tape/film or whatever, and the stilted, staged settings render them unwatchable.

Maybe this is different, but I'd be skeptical until I actually see for myself.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2017 11:56 AM (Pz4pT)

280 There is a photo of Lincoln kissing another guy that proves he was gay. They are hiding it from the public.

Posted by: LGBTQ at April 02, 2017 11:56 AM (IDPbH)

281
229 Does this Hello Kitty lunchbox make my butt look big?

Posted by: Jacob at April 02, 2017 11:19 AM (Tyii7)

*****

You got any chimichangas in there?

Posted by: Deadpool at April 02, 2017 11:58 AM (NqQAS)

282 >>Yeah, but here's the difference. Collins, Murkowski, and McCain are not on the Judicial committee. They had no power on the decision to allow the Garland hearings to move forward.

The only person who stopped Garland was McConnell. He held the Senate Republicans together on that issue and rightfully so. It was Biden who insisted on this "rule" so it was especially nice to see him take it in the pooper over Garland.

Polls showed that the SC was one of the biggest issues if not the biggest issue in this past election. I see no chance whatsoever this doesn't get done and get done this week so Gorsuch can be part of the Spring term.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 02, 2017 11:58 AM (/tuJf)

283 As the Empire moved on there was an ever expanding thirst for larger and larger spectacle. Hence the great games where hundreds of animals and humans might be killed in a day, under most horrific of circumstance.

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Making slaves pick cotton was worse.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at April 02, 2017 11:58 AM (Nwg0u)

284 "I love it! I still want to see somebody's cell phone video of Hillary melting down or passing out."

I'm sure that everyone but all the most trusted flunkies had to relinquish their cell phones upon exiting her majesty's presence that night.

Posted by: Tuna at April 02, 2017 11:59 AM (jm1YL)

285 Be Careful What You Ask For - a limerick

I'll tell you what I've been a-thinkin'
This analysis of Abe? It's a-stinkin'
But if we put them in motion
I've got half a notion
We could analyze how they're a-blinkin'
Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 11:54 AM (wPiJc)


Huzzah!

Posted by: BurtTC at April 02, 2017 11:59 AM (Pz4pT)

286 Bruch time. Have a good day all.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 02, 2017 12:01 PM (/tuJf)

287 The Bible says come the millennium we will beat our swords into plowshares because we ain't gonna study war no more. Isaiah 2:4. The more interesting thing in my opinion is that we will need plowshares because we will still have to work. We will have to earn our bread by the sweat of our brow.

Conclusion: Obamunism is better than religion.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at April 02, 2017 12:01 PM (Nwg0u)

288 276
I'll tell you what I've been a-thinkin'
This analysis of Abe? It's a-stinkin'
But if we put them in motion
I've got half a notion
We could analyze how they're a-blinkin'
Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 11:54 AM (wPiJc)


I approve of your methodology.

Posted by: Clyde Tombaugh at April 02, 2017 12:01 PM (sdi6R)

289 There is a photo of Lincoln kissing another guy that proves he was gay. They are hiding it from the public. Posted by: LGBTQ at April 02, 2017 11:56 AM (IDPbH)
=====

Made me laugh out loud.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 02, 2017 12:05 PM (MIKMs)

290 Repubs need to pick up McCaskill's seat in MO and a couple others in 2018 so they can use the filibuster next time and add 2-3 more real judges, instead of activist leftists. Otherwise McStain, Collins etc have too much clout.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 02, 2017 12:09 PM (TmCOq)

291 "The teacher told all of the little children that they should celebrate and encourage little Jacob's poufiness. Little Mohamet Ackbar went home and told his father, Al, about the day's lesson.
The next day, Al went to class and cut off the teacher's head with a rusty knife. Then he poured gas on all of the little children and set them on fire, while live-streaming it on Facebook."

*The End*

Posted by: RI Red at April 02, 2017 12:10 PM (oBF1V)

292 1. Thread Drift

This concern, for if one photo looks
like Lincoln or not, kinda sooks:
Whilst analysts rage,
Who's turning the page
to get back on-topic with books?



2. Thread Tangles

This concern, for judicial appointment,
majority Senate annointment,
its ups and its downs
and the congress of clowns
...

(um)

(dang!)

(can't use disappointment to rhyme appointment. AH!)

can't be had without plenty of ointment.



(HELP! REWRITE!)

Posted by: mindful webworker - ain't no seamus but I get by at April 02, 2017 12:11 PM (cN1tG)

293
Brunch - the Rhode Island of meals.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 02, 2017 12:12 PM (ZFUt7)

294 (HELP! REWRITE!)


*****


I might try using a juxtaposition of disappointment and dat appointment. That might be allowable.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 02, 2017 12:13 PM (wPiJc)

295 "My general impression of earlier Beeb productions is that the poor quality of tape/film or whatever, and the stilted, staged settings render them unwatchable. "

Yes, yes the early productions would be primitive to younger folk to today's viewing audiences. I guess I'd call them more like stage productions. In its infancy Masterpiece Theater was a really big deal. "Upstairs, Downstairs", "The First Churchills", " The Duchess of Duke Street" and so on. There were memorable performances that have not faded from my memory. The good old days of "high brow" public TV.

Posted by: Tuna at April 02, 2017 12:14 PM (jm1YL)

296 188 Link to photos of Napoleoic veterns
http://mashable.com/2014/10/27/napoleonic-wars-veterans/#8RjzLfP0gEqW
Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 10:57 AM (GPaiX)

And in the middle of these photographs are ads for hipster millennials pretending to be Arthur pulling Excalibur out of the boulder and making "awesome videos"

Posted by: Just John at April 02, 2017 12:15 PM (1yGmM)

297 "How do we explain the 2016 election to our kids?",

"There were two people nominated that voters really didn't like, but they decided that they liked Hillary less than Trump, and so elected him instead. People were very passionate about the issues, and the election brought out a lot of hard feelings. Now eat your cheerios."

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 02, 2017 12:19 PM (Tnhbr)

298 237 OK

The nuclear or constitutional option
is a parliamentary procedure that allows the U.S. Senate to override a rule or precedent by majority vote. The presiding officer of the United States Senate rules that the validity of a Senate rule or precedent is a constitutional question. They immediately put the issue to the full Senate, which decides by majority vote.

So if 2 Republicans say no, then no nuclear option.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 02, 2017 11:26 AM (mpXpK)

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If it's 52-2 vs 48+2, does the VP get a vote?

Posted by: Just John at April 02, 2017 12:22 PM (1yGmM)

299 Muldoon makes limericking look so easy.

"You gotta know where the rocks are."
-Just the Punchline

Posted by: mindful webworker - don't fear the riper at April 02, 2017 12:26 PM (cN1tG)

300 I enjoyed it so much I got the novel preceding this one, "The Better Angels".

Posted by: All Hail Eris
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I look forward to a review. 'Heart' was a very interesting novel.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 02, 2017 12:31 PM (ZO497)

301 Wenda, so glad I could help! The classes are great and the people are wonderful to network with as well. Just be sure to rest up beforehand--you get a lot of information from a firehose and Dean has odd working hours--likes to stay up late.

Yes, the classes are very popular. As for the main hotel, it is...eclectic and not for everybody. You should check it out while there, though. NOBODY finds the sniper. Nobody.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at April 02, 2017 12:40 PM (mDjbp)

302 Somebody should show our cross-dressing buddy Jakob that movie vignette about the outed tranny drinking Woolite on the sidewalk curb.

Posted by: Corona at April 02, 2017 12:44 PM (3/A/K)

303 Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 09:50 AM (GPaiX)

Late to the game, but thanks for including the painting that was fun.

I see your comments frequently. Curious. What prompted you to read the entire Thomas Carlyle's History of Frederick II? Thanks. Good Sunday all.

Posted by: gracepmc at April 02, 2017 12:57 PM (OU4q6)

304 One good early Beeb production is Macbeth with a young
Sean Connery. B&W, late 50s, and it feels like a parody of early Beeb productions. Cardboard sets, some stilted movement. But real acting.

Current read: Camus's The Plague. I love my neighborhood library; they have the "sorta interesting" shelf by the front, and the staff always surprises with their choices. Classics, oddballs, current semi-hot books (warm?), solid good reads.

Posted by: AnAnonymousAuthor at April 02, 2017 12:58 PM (Zkkoo)

305 Sabrina,

Thanks for the pro tips. When the time gets closer, I'll ask for advice on what really scares me: finding my way from the Portland airport to Lincoln River!

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at April 02, 2017 01:05 PM (Kr0FZ)

306 Would not want to be in that library during an earthquake.

Posted by: Cluebat at April 02, 2017 01:35 PM (9WTDY)

307 I am quite the Prussian aficionado, I have a love for Napoleoic history and have a extensive miniture Prussian army. I have other books on Frederick the Great and find him to be a very facinating figure in history, much as some do of Napoleon.

Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 01:49 PM (GPaiX)

308 Colonel Kurtz looks like he has a His n' Hers library. Love it.

Posted by: Gem at April 02, 2017 01:54 PM (uaHyk)

309 Hello #194,

They substitute politics for religion. Their Goddess is Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Pogonip at April 02, 2017 01:59 PM (k+XMH)

310 That Kaplan photo looks nothing like Lincoln to me.

Posted by: Gem at April 02, 2017 02:06 PM (uaHyk)

311 So I said I might come back for the book thread.

Although all the moron libraries have been enjoyable to look at. let's just say almost all of them have been tiddier than mine is. Finally, Colonel Kurtz has a library that is not tidy-well the right side isn't. Thanks, Colonel Kurtz. Now I feel so much better! ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 02, 2017 03:30 PM (fDdVG)

312 And Re; Hillary Clinton's book of devotionals-Abingdon Press in the "official" United Methodist publishing house. I somehow doubt Hillary looked at devotionals every morning and If I want to read devotionals of Methodists, I would pick somebody like John Wesley for instance.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 02, 2017 03:34 PM (fDdVG)

313 Still reading Charles McCarry's "The Better Angels", the prequel to "Shelley's Heart". What a talent. He has such love and pity for his characters, even the awful ones.

When people are so finely drawn, do they actually come alive in some literary plane?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 02, 2017 03:43 PM (PhYV5)

314 Hey, guys, "Fade" was nominated as one of the best book covers of the month of March. I would love your support. Link in sig.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at April 02, 2017 04:15 PM (rvzMR)

315 Hillary Clinton's book of devotionals

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Blessed are they who shut my enemies' mouths.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at April 02, 2017 04:16 PM (Nwg0u)

316 Although all the moron libraries have been enjoyable to look at. let's just say almost all of them have been tiddier than mine is. Finally, Colonel Kurtz has a library that is not tidy-well the right side isn't. Thanks, Colonel Kurtz. Now I feel so much better! ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 02, 2017 03:30 PM (fDdVG)


So send me a photo of your library, FS! I would love it if you did.

Let the Horde be judge of whether it's tidy or not.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 02, 2017 04:55 PM (hdBlY)

317 One language that defies translation is Minoan Linear A, and that is partially because written documents are rare, they are mostly lists, and also because no-one so far assign it to a language group it belongs to.

They have a few Linear A words. The technical word for "total", TO-SO (tosos) in Greek, is KU-RO in Linear A. Cyrus Gordon said, oh like kull in Arabic - Minoan is Semitic!!

... except that, as a technical word, KU-RO might just be a loanword from Semitic. (Like how "total" is a Latin loanword in our language.) This would imply exactly nothing about all those other, nonSemitic words in Linear A. So, back to the drawing-board all those geeks went...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 02, 2017 05:52 PM (6FqZa)

318 The new book Having Friends For Dinner follows little Jeffrey Dahmer as stands up to a repressive society to become himself.

Foreword by Reza "Braains" Aslan

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 02, 2017 05:54 PM (6FqZa)

319 Posted by: Skip at April 02, 2017 01:49 PM (GPaiX)

Thanks. Makes sense. Sounds like a passion. Good on you for having one.

Posted by: gracepmc at April 02, 2017 05:56 PM (OU4q6)

320 Currently 200 pages into Necronomicon, an 1100 page epub collection of the works of H.P. Lovecraft. 67 stories in all. I've read some Lovecraft back in my 20s and found the stories creepier then. Still, it's been fairly entertaining so far.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 02, 2017 06:01 PM (6n332)

321 but they decided that they liked Hillary less than Trump, and so elected him instead.

"But Daddy, someone said something about a Lectrical College..."

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 02, 2017 06:01 PM (6FqZa)

322 I'm reading Tocqueville's "Democracy in America". He's amazingly prescient. It's also refreshing to read about a time when the federal govt was considered too weak.

Posted by: norrin radd, sojourner of the space ways at April 02, 2017 07:27 PM (vdB1J)

323 hi

Posted by: Londo Cardassian at April 02, 2017 07:41 PM (erVoE)

324 I think I'll be giving up on the webz for at least a couple of weeks. I can't stand the constant negativity messing up my writing, when the story itself is grim enough.

Posted by: Empire1 at April 02, 2017 09:13 PM (AKehQ)

325 Thanks, all. I was away from the Internet today.

The linseed oil was for doing rifle stocks. The other side of the room is the gun safe.

Ironically, I couldn't take that pic right now. I am reflooring part of the house and the library is stuffed full of displaced furniture.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at April 03, 2017 01:18 AM (3beF7)

326 Transgendered is equal to cisgendered. A man wearing a dress is just as equal to be a father wearing pants. A woman wearing a dress is no better than a female softball player.
Disagree and be scorned.

Posted by: Joe Mack at April 03, 2017 07:21 PM (iynDC)

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