Thread below the Gardening Thread: Novel Theory about Muslim Immigration [KT]

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I have been wondering why the political left, and to some extent the right, has been so enthusiastic about Muslim immigration. Islam is just not compatible with the liberal traditions of the West. So why the continued efforts to import Muslims ?

What do you think the novel theory is? Clue below the fold:

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:10 AM

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1 Nice day ot here

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:03 AM (GPaiX)

2 First... drink of the day!

Posted by: Hillary 2020! at March 25, 2017 11:04 AM (bc2Lc)

3 THIRD!!! YOU WILL NOT DIVIDE US

Posted by: Shia LaBeouf at March 25, 2017 11:05 AM (vRcUp)

4 Watching Hotel Rwanda,the evil white people have just been evil by evacuating their nationals instead of protecting Rwandans.Racists.

Posted by: steevy at March 25, 2017 11:05 AM (r/0kC)

5 http://bit.ly/2nQnUSK
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Blixseth on Montgomery "I hacked into all of America for Brennan & Clapper" Trump a Zillion times
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Willowed

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 25, 2017 11:05 AM (y3aQB)

6 They're a wedge.

They'll be used to break down the traditions of the West, which is the Left's motivation for everything.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 25, 2017 11:06 AM (oVJmc)

7 Reminds me of that guy in Paris after one of the attacks. He's telling his very young son that sure they have guns, but we have Flowers. Kid was having none of it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 11:07 AM (kTF2Z)

8 That kind of stuff would never happen here.

Posted by: IR Porn, the fastest growing segment in the industry. at March 25, 2017 11:09 AM (Jcrm4)

9 Dennis Prager has a theory at least for Germany that the goverment elite thinks as a correction to erase the mark on their history have purposely invited Muzzies to prove they are not racist. Of course their invites are as racist as they come.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:09 AM (GPaiX)

10 KWAAAAAAAN!!!!!

Posted by: Julie Andrews at March 25, 2017 11:11 AM (wpC7C)

11 Many including me are thinking Leftists have in their goal of destruction of western civilization and the individual have found allies in Islam.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:12 AM (GPaiX)

12 Many including me are thinking Leftists have in their goal of destruction of western civilization and the individual have found allies in Islam.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:12 AM (GPaiX)

1000 times this.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 25, 2017 11:14 AM (aMlLZ)

13 Be mindful. Know Yoko. Visualize whirled peas.

Posted by: Intragalactic Yoko Ono Appreciation Society, AoSHQ Chapter at March 25, 2017 11:16 AM (B1ik8)

14 3 THIRD!!! YOU WILL NOT DIVIDE US
Posted by: Shia LaBeouf at March 25, 2017 11:05 AM (vRcUp)

Whatever. All your flags are belong to us!

Posted by: 4chan /pol/ at March 25, 2017 11:16 AM (ywNoU)

15 So I'm on board with the theory. Yes, the so-called leaders of the west are all up in the business of being girly, but the video?

It had me conflicted. She's awfully pleasant to look at, but when she started singing I wanted to barf, and frankly, what's her job? In that apartment, what does she do to afford it?

Ready in 20 minutes for a date, with a guy she barely knows???

Oh, nevermind. I know her job.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:16 AM (Pz4pT)

16 There's nothing quite like a good, old-fashioned beat down with a chrysanthemum to humiliate and subdue your enemies.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 25, 2017 11:16 AM (Tyii7)

17 The issue is when Nancy Kwan's date wants to be a girl as well.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:17 AM (GPaiX)

18 Could have just linked the original article at Zman. If you haven't been by there you need to. This guy is brilliant and like Ace, cuts through all the crap and lays it out in plain English. Great web site.

Posted by: NobodyCanuck at March 25, 2017 11:17 AM (e5gpF)

19 It had me conflicted. She's awfully pleasant to look at, but when she started singing I wanted to barf, and frankly, what's her job? In that apartment, what does she do to afford it?

Ready in 20 minutes for a date, with a guy she barely knows???

Oh, nevermind. I know her job.
Posted by: BurtTC

I was gonna say........
Morning all.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2017 11:17 AM (eauMe)

20 11
Many including me are thinking Leftists have in their goal of
destruction of western civilization and the individual have found allies
in Islam.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:12 AM (GPaiX)

And replace it with?

Posted by: Tami at March 25, 2017 11:18 AM (Enq6K)

21 16 There's nothing quite like a good, old-fashioned beat down with a chrysanthemum to humiliate and subdue your enemies.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 25, 2017 11:16 AM

We prefer full-bloom hysteria.

Posted by: Proggies Everywhere at March 25, 2017 11:19 AM (B1ik8)

22 Watched the video clip, she does mention a job or a john

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:19 AM (GPaiX)

23 Many including me are thinking Leftists have in their goal of destruction of western civilization and the individual have found allies in Islam.
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:12 AM (GPaiX)

Yeah, but don't leave the feminism part of this out of the equation. This is one of the major problems of the left, they laydies want to neuter the men, the blacks want to kill all the whites, the gheys want to get rid of the straights.

All of which are suicidal, but it's like they can't see the whole picture. They're so fixated on who they hate, they have NO CLUE that the alternative, in this case a rabid evil cult of a billion just might hate them more.

So they chip away at Western civilization, which essentially is that: white, male, hetero Christians. Consequences be damned. And if they succeed, they damn everybody.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:20 AM (Pz4pT)

24 You want a character's resume and bank statement in the middle of a song about being a girl?

Posted by: how to write a shitty musical at March 25, 2017 11:21 AM (wpC7C)

25 Many including me are thinking Leftists have in their goal of destruction of western civilization and the individual have found allies in Islam.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:12 AM (GPaiX)

1000 times this.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division

What deludes the left is the thinking that they can turn the muzzies off when the are done.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2017 11:21 AM (eauMe)

26 >>So they chip away at Western civilization, which essentially is that:
white, male, hetero Christians. Consequences be damned. And if they
succeed, they damn everybody.

"Take that, daddy!!" - Angry Feminists

Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2017 11:22 AM (NOIQH)

27 Morons could be replaced by robots.

"One of the great mysteries of the human mind is surely the pun. Just why are they funny? To explain it, researchers have proposed a new quantum theory of humour - work that could be in line for next year's IgNobel prizes."

http://tinyurl.com/k754lf7

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 25, 2017 11:22 AM (Nwg0u)

28 Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:20 AM (Pz4pT)

Sorry, I forgot to make my main point. None of the factions of the left REALLY want to destroy ALL of Western Civ. They only want to destroy the part they hate, but the end result will be a destruction of all, which I think if we're honest, is not the goal.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:22 AM (Pz4pT)

29 Many including me are thinking Leftists have in their goal of
destruction of western civilization and the individual have found allies in Islam.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:12 AM (GPaiX)

And replace it with?
Posted by: Tami

Nirvana. Problem is, the muzzies won't play that game. They have their own game.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2017 11:23 AM (eauMe)

30 Did see what I am sure was a live April the giraffe cam earlythis morning but yesterday and today mostly have only found taped videos.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:23 AM (GPaiX)

31 What deludes the left is the thinking that they can turn the muzzies off when the are done.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2017 11:21 AM (eauMe)

Which is true! The problem is, their definition of "done" and the Muzzies' definition are not the same.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:24 AM (Pz4pT)

32 So they chip away at Western civilization, which essentially is that: white, male, hetero Christians. Consequences be damned. And if they succeed, they damn everybody.

"Take that, daddy!!" - Angry Feminists

Well past time that daddy lit that ass up with a belt.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2017 11:25 AM (eauMe)

33 I don't get the clue. Does she sing that she hates her father and is "gonna show him"?

Posted by: t-bird at March 25, 2017 11:25 AM (k8DTS)

34 It had me conflicted. She's awfully pleasant to look at, but when she started singing I wanted to barf, and frankly, what's her job? In that apartment, what does she do to afford it?

Ready in 20 minutes for a date, with a guy she barely knows???

Oh, nevermind. I know her job.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:16 AM (Pz4pT)

Apparently you've never seen Flower Drum Song, which is a very fun movie/musical. She's the lead showgirl at a Chinese restaurant/nightclub in San Francisco. Her ambition is to marry Jack Soo, who plays her boyfriend/the club owner, although she gets detoured into becoming engaged to James Shigeta, playing a Chinese college student. But all comes right in the end, after everyone sings/dances their way to exhaustion.

Posted by: HTL at March 25, 2017 11:25 AM (JsSFV)

35 You want a character's resume and bank statement in the middle of a song about being a girl?
Posted by: how to write a shitty musical at March 25, 2017 11:21 AM (wpC7C)

I'm stating the obvious, without saying it: she's a prostitute.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:26 AM (Pz4pT)

36 4 year old terrorist threatens preschool.

He was kicked out because he brought an expended .22 bullet casing to school because he thought it was shiny and pretty.

No word on fatalities and injuries.

http://tinyurl.com/lhl2h4t

P.S. .22 casing described as "shotgun bullet".

P.P.S. Aggravating factor: his name is "Hunter".

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 25, 2017 11:26 AM (Nwg0u)

37 Mark Cuban the socialist is on Fox with his healthcare is a human right crap. Wants to take insurance companies out of the equation, doesn't want them to make profits.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:27 AM (GPaiX)

38 Did see what I am sure was a live April the giraffe cam earlythis morning but yesterday and today mostly have only found taped videos.

Only time you can say a female's back end looks bigger and not get shot. LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2017 11:27 AM (eauMe)

39 Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:16 AM (Pz4pT)

Apparently you've never seen Flower Drum Song, which is a very fun movie/musical. She's the lead showgirl at a Chinese restaurant/nightclub in San Francisco. Her ambition is to marry Jack Soo, who plays her boyfriend/the club owner, although she gets detoured into becoming engaged to James Shigeta, playing a Chinese college student. But all comes right in the end, after everyone sings/dances their way to exhaustion.
Posted by: HTL at March 25, 2017 11:25 AM (JsSFV)

No, I have never seen it. And I am saying again, look at her surroundings. She's not a "show girl." She's a prostitute.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:27 AM (Pz4pT)

40 I've heard that Merkel wants to import new citizens because Germans aren't procreating at a rate which would continue the welfare state. That would make sense if the imports were literate, skilled workers who would be a net positive on their economy. If.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 11:28 AM (kTF2Z)

41 >>None of the factions of the left REALLY want to destroy ALL of Western
Civ. They only want to destroy the part they hate, but the end
result will be a destruction of all, which I think if we're honest, is
not the goal.

Cue Instapundit's quip about chivalry being a set of behaviors for *both* sexes.

Feminists wanted to nuke the patriarchy, chivalry - and yet what do they whine about all the dang time? "Men don't treat me with respect!"
No kidding! You destroyed the social/cultural norms and etiquette that encouraged and enforced that behavior - deal with it.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2017 11:28 AM (NOIQH)

42 gee, thanks for derailing my entire day. now I can't think about anything besides Nancy Kwan...

Posted by: Nathan R. Jessup at March 25, 2017 11:28 AM (TixTl)

43 For the hard left that is driving most of our whole insane society, they are a powerful tool to destroy our society. To the left, we cannot have their desired utopia until what we have built is eradicated.

Hence their incredible nihilism and need to destroy everything we hold dear.

Mass Muslim immigration is a means to that end. If an entire American culture, all our institutions, a happy and productive way of life for tens of millions, and as many lives as necessary are stamped out and crushed under their heel - the means justify the ends to the left

BTW, enjoyed the song, haven't heard it for decades, but not sure of the linkage. Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: RM at March 25, 2017 11:28 AM (U3LtS)

44 Intragalactic Yoko Ono Appreciation Society #13:
Be mindful. Know Yoko. Visualize whirled peas.

Nothing comes as close to making me regret my choice of moniker, two decades ago, as the hipsterish "mindfulness" movement. "Mindful..." I don't think it means what they mean it to mean.

Gooooood morning, world. Cooler, with a little much-needed rain here in NE OK. We interrupt having one Summer day after another so we could sneak in some Spring. (Eying sky for possible tornadoes...)

Posted by: mindful webworker - petulantly clark in the subway, darling at March 25, 2017 11:29 AM (jqZ8a)

45 Did see what I am sure was a live April the giraffe cam earlythis morning

Any girls named March? April, May, and June are common enough, and I think I've heard of January.

This poor giraffe deserved a better name.

Posted by: t-bird at March 25, 2017 11:29 AM (k8DTS)

46 Also, that's not Nancy Kwan singing in that video. Her singing parts all had to be dubbed, which is why she wasn't in the Broadway or London theater productions.

Posted by: HTL at March 25, 2017 11:31 AM (JsSFV)

47 Sidebar: They're remaking Suspira With Dakota Johnson in the Lead Role

It's Suspiria, with an"i" before the "a." The original flick is indeed overrated (that had to be the most unrealistic "ballet school" imaginable) but it has one major thing going for it, and that's the superb and justly famous soundtrack by GOBLIN. Unless the remake uses the exact same soundtrack, it will suffer for it.

I bought the deluxe DVD edition of SUSPIRIA just because the package included a separate CD of the soundtrack.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 25, 2017 11:31 AM (ul9CR)

48 Naw, I don't think robots can replace Muldoon and the other punsters of the world. Not a chance!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2017 11:31 AM (NOIQH)

49 It's not muzzies per se the left is in love with. It's anything non-White/European.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 11:32 AM (vsYKI)

50 I've heard that Merkel wants to import new citizens because Germans aren't procreating at a rate which would continue the welfare state. That would make sense if the imports were literate, skilled workers who would be a net positive on their economy. If.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

What are the odds that any one third grade graduate Syrian is fluent in German?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 25, 2017 11:32 AM (eauMe)

51 Any girls named March? April, May, and June are common enough, and I think I've heard of January.

-
Ugly girls could be named February.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 25, 2017 11:32 AM (Nwg0u)

52 Nothing comes as close to making me regret my choice of moniker, two decades ago, as the hipsterish "mindfulness" movement. "Mindful..." I don't think it means what they mean it to mean.

Gooooood morning, world. Cooler, with a little much-needed rain here in NE OK. We interrupt having one Summer day after another so we could sneak in some Spring. (Eying sky for possible tornadoes...)
Posted by: mindful webworker - petulantly clark in the subway, darling at March 25, 2017 11:29 AM (jqZ8a)

Mindfulness, as a tool for people who are crazy, is very effective. Mindfulness for preening halfwits is just another spoonful of pablum to ease their discomfort over their meaningless lives.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:33 AM (Pz4pT)

53 Happy 70th birthday to Sir Elton, listening to Tumbleweed Connection.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 11:33 AM (bMQv/)

54 >>Ugly girls could be named February.

Or short ones

Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2017 11:33 AM (NOIQH)

55 40 I've heard that Merkel wants to import new citizens because Germans aren't procreating at a rate which would continue the welfare state. That would make sense if the imports were literate, skilled workers who would be a net positive on their economy. If.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 11:28 AM (kTF2Z)

____

You mean sitting around train stations all day leering at women isn't a positive net effect on the economy?

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 11:33 AM (vsYKI)

56 I say, good sir! Thanks ever so much for letting me come to Germany to enhance your culture. Did you just say you have a husband? Could you please meet me on the roof?

Posted by: Achmed the new German at March 25, 2017 11:33 AM (kTF2Z)

57 Also, that's not Nancy Kwan singing in that video. Her singing parts all had to be dubbed, which is why she wasn't in the Broadway or London theater productions.
Posted by: HTL at March 25, 2017 11:31 AM (JsSFV)

I don't know anything about her, but I realized that when the musical number started. Here was a hot looking Asian gal, and the voice was... typical smarmy American musical voice.

Bleh. No thanks.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:35 AM (Pz4pT)

58 Never saw the "Flower Drum Song". That was painful - I should have just read the article first.

That article might explain Merkel - who is so f*cked up she is inscrutable and opaque to me.

But in general, I think it's a case of:

i) Democrat politicians don't care about the distant future, whether the world goes to shit. They just want to guarantee that they will have safe seats for the remainder of their lifetimes, so they want to import as many people as possible who are guaranteed to vote for them in the short term.

ii) Useful idiot liberals, not alpha liberals like Hillary, but Libtardis Vulgaris, soccer moms who so rabidly desire Muslim immigrants. I think they are subconsciously repulsed by Muslims, and feel guilty about this, and try to "atone" for this by inflicting Muslims upon themselves and the rest of the country (similar to Medieval people who flagellated themselves to atone for their sins).

There also is the odd psychological phenomenon called "survivor guilt". The one person who survives the plane crash feels *guilty* as if he did something wrong when he had nothing to do with the outcome. Americans are conditioned to think that all societies are equal in their natural states and that if Shithole-istan in the Middle East is not, it must be something *we* did, and we must atone for it, even if all the evidence points to their being the primary cause of their own woes. If it were possible for these people to think so, I believe that if they saw a child with a debilitating disease, they would not merely feel sorry for that child and want to help them (which would be noble), they would feel personally guilty about it, and would want to inflict the same disease upon themselves and their own children, which is grotesque and sick.

iii) I also believe that liberals are a) racists with b) an inferiority complex. They are kids who were bullied and taunted in school by their peers. Their peers were mostly white. They associate whiteness with competition: ie. people who are smarter and better looking who will mouth off to them and make them look stupid when they behave stupidly. Then they look upon third world sh*tholes and they think: "the brown people are docile, humble. I will be their rescuer, like that guy in the Avatar movie. They will worship me and love me and adore me."

Liberals are losers who want to bring in Muslims to help fulfill their narcissistic fantasy. And if people here have concerns about criminals and terrorists in sanctuary cities, liberals enjoy lambasting them as racists. It's a way for liberals to get revenge on the people who bullied them in childhood.

Posted by: Shia LaBeouf at March 25, 2017 11:36 AM (vRcUp)

59 Off division sock.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 11:36 AM (vRcUp)

60 My parents loved Broadway shows and particularly the musicals. When I was a teenager trying to sleep in, their method of waking me was to put Fiorello, Flower Drum Song, My Fair Lady, etc. on the phono, and crank up the volume.

This song made me smile thinking of that.

Posted by: RM at March 25, 2017 11:36 AM (U3LtS)

61 Something I've never seen put together, but which I'm sure someone somewhere must've already noted:

On the one hand we have these nations where there is concern about not reproducing at replacement levels, thus reducing the available workforce.

On the other hand we have these concerns about increasing automation taking over all positions, thus reducing the available jobs.

Seems t'me that it would be preferable to go with the flow, lower reproduction and automation, than to invite in hordes of uncooperative, unproductive, untrainable, third-world welfare cases.

But, what do I know? I'm not the head of a major European nation or anything...!

Posted by: mindful webworker - artificially intelligible at March 25, 2017 11:37 AM (jqZ8a)

62 9 Dennis Prager has a theory at least for Germany that the goverment elite thinks as a correction to erase the mark on their history have purposely invited Muzzies to prove they are not racist. Of course their invites are as racist as they come.
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:09 AM (GPaiX)

I agree with this, but would add that the Germans are being a bit ingenuous about this, because they allied with the Arabs, and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, in order to get rid of the Jews in the Middle East. They were never racist against the Arabs-only the Jews.

Posted by: moki at March 25, 2017 11:37 AM (wuzmq)

63 Because English is a messy language with homophones and odd cognates it is fairly easy to do a pun. Spanish is harder, and there is far less acceptance of puns in Spanish.

I have thought of punning as a form of "shifting paradigms without a clutch"
The humor comes from the GRAWWRRRRRR as you flip the meanings around.

Some of us, of course, have the advantage of metaphorically growing up without syncromesh. . .

Posted by: Kindltot at March 25, 2017 11:37 AM (0hI48)

64 No, I have never seen it. And I am saying again, look at her surroundings. She's not a "show girl." She's a prostitute.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:27 AM (Pz4pT)

You seem determined to put the most negative possible spin on this. In the book, and the movie, she is just a showgirl, although her boyfriend subsidizes her lifestyle. And it's the fifties, so no she wasn't "putting out". Girls in musicals back then "saved themselves" until after marriage. She wants to marry her boyfriend, but breaks up with him when he won't propose, then gets back together with him and marries him at the end and THEN (at least according to the end credits) has about ten children.

Posted by: HTL at March 25, 2017 11:37 AM (JsSFV)

65 Is that a young George Takei in that clip?

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2017 11:37 AM (V2Yro)

66 Her ambition is to marry Jack Soo, who plays her boyfriend/the club owner, although she gets detoured into becoming engaged to James Shigeta, playing a Chinese college student.

Jack Soo? The token asian in Barney Miller?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 11:38 AM (vRcUp)

67 Posted by: Shia LaBeouf at March 25, 2017 11:36 AM (vRcUp)

Something tells me this wasn't really Shia LaBeouf...

Posted by: t-bird at March 25, 2017 11:38 AM (NBHj5)

68 Is that a young George Takei in that clip?
Posted by: Tom Servo

Can't be, no pockmarks.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 25, 2017 11:39 AM (3FOXU)

69 Sorry-disingenuous, not ingenuous.

No coffee yet, so slow brain cells.

Posted by: moki at March 25, 2017 11:39 AM (wuzmq)

70 Yeah, no.

Leftists want Muslims because they are women and/or pussies and want to create drama so someone will come rescue them?

Too many bankshots, and I don't see how pussified men leads to this either.

I think this is what some are saying above, but let's be plain: Leftists are against what we quaintly used to call Western Culture before that became a hate phrase.

If it can be used as a cudgel against Western Culture, the Left will take it up.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 11:40 AM (HV1LS)

71 BurtTC #52: Mindfulness, as a tool for people who are crazy, is very effective. Mindfulness for preening halfwits is just another spoonful of pablum to ease their discomfort over their meaningless lives.

* ponders *

I'm pretty sure I'm in the former crazy category... but since you mention it, my life is discomfitingly meaningless, so... hmmm.

* wanders off to contemplate this for forty minutes in the wilderness *

Posted by: mindful webworker - or... is he? at March 25, 2017 11:41 AM (jqZ8a)

72 I wonder if Jack Soo ever fancied George Takei.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2017 11:41 AM (V2Yro)

73 Dennis Prager has a theory at least for Germany that
the goverment elite thinks as a correction to erase the mark on their
history have purposely invited Muzzies to prove they are not racist. Of
course their invites are as racist as they come.
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:09 AM (GPaiX)

I understand that a good number of the upper echelon in German government is from East Germany, and are still working at subjugating the West by the Soviet method of forcing aliens in on the population to destroy unity and culture.
Stalin started doing that, and even such "moderates" as Brezhnev did this as well.

Most of the elite of Europe are various shades of soviet indoctrinated socialists, and this has been the ploy to keep in power and get rid of all that messy uncontrolled involvement of the citizens in government.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 25, 2017 11:42 AM (0hI48)

74 Carried over-

The zoo vets have said that unlike domesticated animals, such as cows, horses, etc. no one has been breeding giraffes and calving out babies for centuries, collecting data and amassing what usual impeding birth signs are considered correct for the species.

In other words, they are all just guessing.....

*****

So, a giraff-etus of unknown guestational age.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 11:43 AM (wPiJc)

75 maybe i'm in the wrong frame of mind or maybe i'm not fully awake or maybe i'm just getting old but the the "Justice League" trailer looks really really really bad. absolute horseshit. worse than dawn of justice or suicide squad bad. unoriginal. bad catchphrases. aimed at junior high level 'short attention span theater' types. YMMV...

Posted by: Nathan R. Jessup at March 25, 2017 11:43 AM (TixTl)

76 "Barack Obama was a wigger dork. Paul Ryan is a ridiculous pussy"

I don't know what a "wigger dork" is, but it sounds right!

Posted by: m at March 25, 2017 11:44 AM (Gqgs8)

77 Seems t'me that it would be preferable to go with the flow, lower reproduction and automation, than to invite in hordes of uncooperative, unproductive, untrainable, third-world welfare cases.

But, what do I know? I'm not the head of a major European nation or anything...!
Posted by: mindful webworker - artificially intelligible at March 25, 2017 11:37 AM (jqZ8a)

The dread of many in Europe is less about not having people to man the jobs, it's about not having taxpayers paying into their retirement benefits pool.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:44 AM (Pz4pT)

78 KWAAAAAAAN!!!!!

Posted by: Julie Andrews

That's the threadwinner. I'm like a drug addict here, scanning the threads for random comments like this that make you guffaw for several minutes.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 11:44 AM (vRcUp)

79 I don't know anything about her, but I realized that when the musical number started. Here was a hot looking Asian gal, and the voice was... typical smarmy American musical voice.

Bleh. No thanks.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:35 AM (Pz4pT)

It's not as bad as Audrey Hepburn being overdubbed in My Fair Lady. And Kwan is the only one. Everyone else belted out their own tunes, and there are some good ones. But suit yourself. Although you could probably find "Chop Suey" and "Don't Marry Me" on YouTube as well, which are fun songs with 100% Nancy Kwan-free content.

The movie is an interesting artifact of its time. The Chinese aspired to be too American for it to be "cool" today.

Posted by: HTL at March 25, 2017 11:44 AM (JsSFV)

80 What do you think the novel theory is?

Mutual self loathing and cultural shame.
The Left, being pussified and collectively frustrated, has found its muscle, and the Muz, being self-conscious about lack of achievement and culturally frustrated, has found its quasi-intellectual legitimacy and enabler.
It's going to be fun-cum-frightening watching them realize they're both each other's useful idiots.

Posted by: BuddyPC at March 25, 2017 11:44 AM (lPWWH)

81 * wanders off to contemplate this for forty minutes in the wilderness *

Posted by: mindful webworker - or... is he?

******

Tell Hillary "hi" from us while you're there.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 11:45 AM (wPiJc)

82 "What deludes the left is the thinking that they can turn the muzzies off when the are done.

Posted by: rickb223:

They should talk to the Iranian socialists that allied with the Muslim fundamentalists to overthrow the Shah in 1979 to see how that worked out. If they can find any that survived the following break-up.

Posted by: Ripley at March 25, 2017 11:45 AM (1BQGO)

83 I like suspiria even more than regular old root beer.

Posted by: Evelle Snoats at March 25, 2017 11:45 AM (2SERm)

84 >>>7 Reminds me of that guy in Paris after one of the attacks. He's telling his very young son that sure they have guns, but we have Flowers. Kid was having none of it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 11:07 AM (kTF2Z)

Wasn't it even worse than that? Like, they had see his mother or sibling be killed in the attack?

Posted by: m at March 25, 2017 11:45 AM (Gqgs8)

85 btw left over from last thread - Miley was saying she was going to a range with weasel - and I was trying to horn in on the action.

Either one here? MiniNoVaMoMe?

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 11:46 AM (HV1LS)

86 Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:27 AM (Pz4pT)

You seem determined to put the most negative possible spin on this. In the book, and the movie, she is just a showgirl, although her boyfriend subsidizes her lifestyle. And it's the fifties, so no she wasn't "putting out". Girls in musicals back then "saved themselves" until after marriage. She wants to marry her boyfriend, but breaks up with him when he won't propose, then gets back together with him and marries him at the end and THEN (at least according to the end credits) has about ten children.
Posted by: HTL at March 25, 2017 11:37 AM (JsSFV)

I really could not possibly care less about the plot of the musical.

I'm just looking at a 45 second snippet of a scene, and putting simple logic in place.

Hollowwood musicals are, by their very nature, fantasies with no real connection to the real world, so please, don't let my "negativity" get in your way of enjoying the story.

We're talking about two very different things.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:47 AM (Pz4pT)

87 The dread of many in Europe is less about not having people to man the jobs, it's about not having taxpayers paying into their retirement benefits pool.
Posted by: BurtTC

Exactly. Take out the welfare Ponzi scheme and there is no demographic problem. Japan saw that AI and robotics is making the Japanese worker exponentially more productive and decided they'd rather deal with an implosion of the welfare state instead of aloha snackbar.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 25, 2017 11:48 AM (3FOXU)

88 Question re Michelle Kwan - everything I read about the 50s and 60s is that hot chicks used to be size 16 and then Barbie ruined it for everyone.

This video clip would seem to give the lie to that notion...

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 11:48 AM (HV1LS)

89 Musical fight!

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 11:48 AM (bMQv/)

90 37 Mark Cuban the socialist is on Fox with his healthcare is a human right crap. Wants to take insurance companies out of the equation, doesn't want them to make profits.
____________________

Does he realize that insurance companies don't actually provide health care? What happens to the health care providers under his scheme? Are they conscripted into service? And if the government can force labor (at whatever price) from doctors, nurses, etc., then why can't it do the same for people who perform other necessary services? Like auto mechanics, plumbers, etc.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 25, 2017 11:49 AM (riF5p)

91 Tell Hillary "hi" from us while you're there.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 11:45 AM

No need. I'm practically a regular here.

Posted by: Hillary! at March 25, 2017 11:52 AM (DMUuz)

92 As others have said, the Left, bent on the destruction of Western civilization, views Islam as an ally.

The Left has taken over the Democrat Party. Most Democrats are completely ignorant of this--they're sheep.

A few Democrats know very well what they're doing. They're truly evil.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 25, 2017 11:52 AM (97XyN)

93 See the comment by "Veryretired" at the linked article. I've been saying for a long time that the Left and Islam are both using each other as useful idiots in their quest to destroy Western civilization. Each believes the other will be dealt with afterward.

The most recent example of this was the Iranian revolution. The Communists allied with the Ayatollah to overthrow the Shah, then were ruthlessly exterminated by the Islamists.

But the Communists were only a small minority in Iran. There's no guarantee it would play out the same way on a global scale. Islam has religious fanaticism on its side, but the secular Left has modern technology on its side, which as we have seen, can be useful for mass extermination.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 11:52 AM (sdi6R)

94 So the "Flower Drum Song" is not an export, but a Rogers and Hammerstein musical. Was it a propaganda film designed to convince American men to date asian women? Do I have this film to blame for my father marrying an asian? I'll have to confront him about this.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 11:52 AM (vRcUp)

95 Question re Michelle Kwan - everything I read about the 50s and 60s is that hot chicks used to be size 16 and then Barbie ruined it for everyone.

This video clip would seem to give the lie to that notion...
Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 11:48 AM (HV1LS)

She was wearing her high heels in bed, so we've preserved at least one stereotype.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:52 AM (Pz4pT)

96 Let me start a healthcare fight. Single payer is perfectly Constitutional and legal and acceptable.

For example, know anyone who is actually wants to repeal Medicare?

I think that if we want to cover the uncovered, we should have a single payer system in parallel to the regular system. Yes, government hospitals and clinics. Free, or super low fees at least. Yes, subsidized, you and me pay it. And anyone who is a citizen can go. Sure, the lines may be long, and the treatment may be not what you can get at your high dollar concierge doctor - but it is very cheap.

Safety net. No concerns about previous conditions, whatever.

But it still allows the private system to exist.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 11:53 AM (HV1LS)

97 Ugly girls could be named February.

Or short ones

******

February is the Rhode Island of months.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 11:53 AM (wPiJc)

98 "I'm just looking at a 45 second snippet of a scene, and putting simple logic in place. "

The logic of 2017 isn't the same as the logic of 1957. In fact it's not even close.

When we talk about the degradation of our culture, that's what we're talking about.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2017 11:53 AM (V2Yro)

99 "Mark Cuban the socialist is on Fox with his
healthcare is a human right crap."

Posted by: TrivialPursuer

And why not entertainment, like professional sports? Have you seen the price of tickets? Why shouldn't poor kids be able go see their teams play in person? Going to see a game is a right, not a privilege!

This is what that a**hole needs to hear when he spouts that BS.

Posted by: Ripley at March 25, 2017 11:55 AM (1BQGO)

100 Is that a young George Takei in that clip?

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2017 11:37 AM (V2Yro)

If you're talking about the guy on the phone, that's James Shigeta. You might remember him better as Admiral Nagumo from Midway, or Mr. Takagi from Die Hard.

Posted by: HTL at March 25, 2017 11:55 AM (JsSFV)

101 Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 25, 2017 11:49 AM (riF5p)

He is for single payer and get rid of insurance..

So while unworkable and stupid IMO, at least is consistent, unlike most of the Left.

Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 11:55 AM (NgKpN)

102 But the Communists were only a small minority in Iran. There's no guarantee it would play out the same way on a global scale. Islam has religious fanaticism on its side, but the secular Left has modern technology on its side, which as we have seen, can be useful for mass extermination.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 11:52 AM (sdi6R)

I have been saying for some time, if the Euros ever get serious about seeing Islam as a threat, watch for the french to take the lead on the efforts to root them out, and they WILL be more vicious about it than people are likely to imagine.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:56 AM (Pz4pT)

103 My Father's Gun is up there with The Night They Drove Ole Dixie Down.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 11:56 AM (bMQv/)

104 Oy, mate! 'Ow do you expect me to play these drums with these fookin' daisies???

Posted by: John Bonham at March 25, 2017 11:57 AM (vRcUp)

105
Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 11:53 AM (HV1LS)

So, the VA system on Steroids?

Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 11:57 AM (NgKpN)

106 Shotgun bullets can be tragically lethal when run through a Glock machine gun.

Posted by: The MFM at March 25, 2017 11:57 AM (Tyii7)

107

If you're talking about the guy on the phone, that's James Shigeta. You might remember him better as Admiral Nagumo from Midway, or Mr. Takagi from Die Hard.

Major Jong from the original Outer Limits episode 'Nightmare.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 25, 2017 11:58 AM (oVJmc)

108 I have been saying for some time, if the Euros ever get serious about seeing Islam as a threat, watch for the french to take the lead on the efforts to root them out, and they WILL be more vicious about it than people are likely to imagine.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:56 AM (Pz4pT)

Before Glenn Beck went totally batshit, he used to talk about this - when the backlash comes in Europe - and it will - it will be a bloodbath. The Europeans have proved to be totally vicious. I don't think that they have totally pussified out of it, I think that they have been comfortable. But once they get pushed out of their comfort zone, well, the trains will roll.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 11:58 AM (HV1LS)

109 I have been saying for some time, if the Euros ever get serious about seeing Islam as a threat, watch for the french to take the lead on the efforts to root them out, and they WILL be more vicious about it than people are likely to imagine.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:56 AM (Pz4pT)

European history of full of over reactions... and they are about due...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 11:58 AM (NgKpN)

110 "I'm just looking at a 45 second snippet of a scene, and putting simple logic in place. "
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The logic of 2017 isn't the same as the logic of 1957. In fact it's not even close.

When we talk about the degradation of our culture, that's what we're talking about.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 25, 2017 11:53 AM (V2Yro)

Nonsense. The logic is, a simple "showgirl" does not live in a luxury apartment, unless she's supplementing her income somehow.

I doubt she own oil wells, or is doing rocket surgery.

And lest anyone forget, sex was NOT invented in your lifetime.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:59 AM (Pz4pT)

111
Western women need more excitement in their lives? Like increasing the odds of being raped or murdered? Or marrying, having children with a refugee, only to have no rights when refugee decides to return to home country - with her children?

I have a difficult time believing women have become this stupid. But I've been out of the dating scene for decades.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 25, 2017 11:59 AM (ZFUt7)

112 don't think that they have totally pussified out of it, I think that they have been comfortable. But once they get pushed out of their comfort zone, well, the trains will roll.
Posted by: blaster

But at least they'll run on time.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 25, 2017 12:00 PM (3FOXU)

113 Islam excels at violence. The anticipation is that the "democratic" west will eventually vote to have strong central control to defeat the chaos and violence, trading any semblance of freedom for security. But, like anybody who thinks that violence is the desired means to effect change, they really do not understand what they are asking for. When it comes, it will be too late for a do over.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at March 25, 2017 12:00 PM (7N6ox)

114 You ignorant hicks. What part of 'fundamentally change America' do you not understand?

Posted by: Dogeater ex-chief at March 25, 2017 12:00 PM (ivHkJ)

115 I was just thinking about this issue earlier.

On one hand, we have the First Amendment, specifically freedom of religion. I think most of us would agree that this is absolute and inviolable.

The roots of our nations can be found in people fleeing religious repression, sacrificing everything else in their life, risking perilous sea journeys, and choosing the uncertainty and risk of coming to a largely unestablished land where they were mor likely to starve or perish for lack of basic necessities for the chance at being free to worship as they saw fit.

At that time, the various religions of people who chose to come here were largely similar in their fundamental moral and societal underpinnings. For the most part, people were coming from similar backgrounds and, while th details might differ about their beliefs, there was a reasonably common thread about right and wrong.

Even absent the religious motivation, people shared a common belief that, left entirely to their own devices with odds stacked against them, having the chance to freely succeed or fail on their own was preferable to what was possible for them within the confines and structures of wherever they left.

This point can't be stated strongly enough, people left EVERYTHING in the full knowledge that they were coming to nothing. There was no "safety net". There were no employers. There were no unions or rights. There were not even systems in place to deliver water to them, ready made lumber or nails to build homes, or stores at which to acquire things that they had no skill or knowledge to produce on their own. In the truest sense, these people believed that they were better off entirely on their own.

That fundamental idea no longer exists. People risk relatively little to come the the United States, particularly in comparison to what they are leaving. The worst case scenairo choice is stay and starve or leave and, if you make it in, live for some time in some form of prison where you get 3 squares and a cot. The worst case end being unlikely, it is more likely that you will have access to job paying far more per day than you'd earn in a week or month if there were any employment available in your native land, you will have access to numerous private and public support structures and, failing all of that, you can live on the streets with no less than you left behind.

In short, people don't come to th United States for the chance at freedom, they come for the near guarantee of a better life.

Going back to religion, the First Amendement did not anticipate non western systems and ideas. It anticipated that everyone would pretty much agree that stoning and mutilating people was wrong and, while it didn't get alll the way there, it took first steps to say that there was at least some marginal difference between people and property. There wasn't a conflict between the religious belief of "thou shall not kill" and any other laws or traditions.

To deal with the present day immigration question, it will be necessary to determine if the First Amendment has limits, what those limits are. Man creates laws on the basis of their traditions and beliefs, which often go back centuries. If those centuries old structures, belief systems, and cultural norms ar fundamentally different than western norms, do we adjust the first amendment and maintain it and alter all the laws and ideas and traditions that come after it?

My opinion is that any solution must begin with complete dissolution of government social safety nets, entitlements, and the like. I recognize that this would have a substantial impact on virtually every American individual and household and many would experience a meaningful sense of loss. That is unfortunate but it is the core of nearly every major issue. Entitlement and rights to an every increasing array of stuff has resulted in the loss of entrepreneurial and pioneering spirit, created tens of trillions in debt that cannot be ever be reconciled, flattened advancement and innovation, inflated costs, and done absolutely nothing to improve the ratio of haves to have nots, unless in contrast to the increasing masses of people who no longer come here for freedom and the chance to pursue a better life, but instead, come for guaranteed minimums that exceed anything they could have done on their own regardless of freedom or opportunity.

Posted by: Damiano at March 25, 2017 12:01 PM (n3oGs)

116 One of the eeriest accounts occurred in August, 1975, to a man on Montauk Point, in Long Island: "I was in bed at my beach house, but could not sleep because of some fried chicken in the icebox that I felt entitled to. I waited till my wife dropped off, and tiptoed into the kitchen. I remember looking at the clock. It was precisely four-fifteen. I'm quite certain of this, because our kitchen clock has not worked in twenty-one years and is always at that time. I also noticed that our dog, Judas, was acting funny. He was standing up on his hind legs and singing, 'I Enjoy Being a Girl.'

- Woody Allen, "The UFO Menace", Side Effects

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 12:01 PM (vRcUp)

117 I think that if we want to cover the uncovered, we should have a single payer system in parallel to the regular system. Yes, government hospitals and clinics. Free, or super low fees at least. Yes, subsidized, you and me pay it. And anyone who is a citizen can go. Sure, the lines may be long, and the treatment may be not what you can get at your high dollar concierge doctor

*****

You could make the case that this is largely what we had in the 70s and 80s. E.g. in New Orleans the two medical schools (Tulane and LSU) shared the big charity hospital that was named (unironically) Charity Hospital. Nobody with means really went to Charity. Long lines, busy ER's, waits for surgeries, much of the care provided by med students, interns and residents, but care was delivered. If it was paid for, it was Medicare, Medicaid and other gov't programs. Also subsidized (probably by the state of Louisiana) for non-paying customers.

So why did that system go away?

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:01 PM (wPiJc)

118 It's the feminisation of the Western elite. As Moldbug said - "We still have Spartans. So did Honorius. If anything, it was his Athenians that sucked balls"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 25, 2017 12:02 PM (6FqZa)

119 Oh, right across the street from Charity Hospital was Tulane Medical Center. Those were the paying patients. Med students didn't get to touch them.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:02 PM (wPiJc)

120 @105 kinda yeah. Though if I wanted to start another fight, it would be how I would cut VA medical, too. (I am a veteran btw)

The VA does a great job at caring for our wounded warriors etc they are swamped dealing with mental, drug, and old age issues for every veteran ever.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 12:02 PM (HV1LS)

121 But it still allows the private system to exist.
Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 11:53 AM (HV1LS)

----------------

And how long until the howls of outrage that it just isn't fair that the rich get quality care while Jose has to wait for months for shitty care?

Posted by: Achmed the new German at March 25, 2017 12:03 PM (kTF2Z)

122 I'm part of the problem of course. I took my classical education and entered a monastery, called Boulder.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 25, 2017 12:03 PM (6FqZa)

123 At the beginning of the video, what are those funny blobby, plasticky looking things that the people are holding up to their faces and talking into? Is this some weird Chinese thing?

Posted by: Steve Jobs at March 25, 2017 12:03 PM (vRcUp)

124 Nonsense. The logic is, a simple "showgirl" does not live in a luxury apartment, unless she's supplementing her income somehow.

I doubt she own oil wells, or is doing rocket surgery.

And lest anyone forget, sex was NOT invented in your lifetime.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:59 AM (Pz4pT)

And the more I think about it, the more I'm going to stand my ground here. Musicals are pure fantasy, and anyone is welcome to enjoy them as much as they want. I can't stand them myself.

Compare this thing to a movie like "The Apartment." Same time period. One a complete fantasy, the other a fairly bold look at reality.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 12:03 PM (Pz4pT)

125 James Shigeta also starred in The Crimson Kimono with Jeffrey Hunter. Two war buddies who are now cops investigating the murder of a torch singer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 25, 2017 12:04 PM (NEGWE)

126 6 They're a wedge.

They'll be used to break down the traditions of the West, which is the Left's motivation for everything.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 25, 2017 11:06 AM (oVJmc)

This.

As Lenin said, "The worse, the better."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 12:04 PM (SRKgf)

127 Testing

Posted by: Puddin Head at March 25, 2017 12:05 PM (BuB4M)

128 Gardening thread up.

Posted by: HH at March 25, 2017 12:06 PM (DrCtv)

129 So why did that system go away?

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:01 PM (wPiJc)

If anyone remembers Hillarycare from 1994, the big pitch was that it wasn't fair for anyone to have better care than anyone else. It made it a crime to have medical service outside the single payer system it set up.

Back in BBS days you would tell Lefties that and they would say that this was right-wing propaganda and then I would cut and paste from the legislation directly (bought the book of the proposal with the floppy disk included) and then they would call me mean or racist or something.

So, anyway, why the charity model went away, and why what I am proposing would be opposed is because it isn't "fair." As if it is somehow "fair" to make doctors accept Medicaid payments (which is significantly lower compensation) for the same service.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 12:07 PM (HV1LS)

130 @121. Yeah.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 12:08 PM (HV1LS)

131 I have a darker view. The left, pussies that they are, don't have the spine to actually get their fingers dirty to murder the planet, and make no mistakes, in order for them to get their utopia they will have to remove a huge segment of the population.

As someone above mentioned, they view the muzzies as their muscle, and after they use them to murder civilization they think they can turn them off by showering them with benefits, free phones, free weed, etc, you know, like the average ass sucking leftist.

You know why I pray for colander facemask world? Its that arena where we will shine, and THEN we will take care of all family business. It don't matter who gets elected, the system is rigged, its too far gone, and history has seen this movie before countless times. A small handful of assholes holding civilization hostage, and it don't stop until you can salt and burn their bones.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 25, 2017 12:09 PM (aMlLZ)

132 @121 and @129

Ding, ding, ding, correct answer both.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:10 PM (wPiJc)

133 Mutiny On the Bounty 1962 is on TMC with Marlon Brando and Trevor Howard and Richard Harris

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 12:10 PM (GPaiX)

134 So why did that system go away?
Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:01 PM (wPiJc)

We had a similar setup in St. Louis. They called the regional public hospital... Regional Hospital.

Manned by med students, mostly from Washington University, which cranks out some fine doctors. They specialized in premie babies, and I don't think it is inaccurate to say they were better at it than the big private hospitals around the area, including Barnes, which was Wash U's main hospital. Or the children's hopsital... interestingly named Children's Hospital.

I think they went away because they became embroiled in fights over who, indeed, WAS supposed to pay for it. The city and county shared costs for a while, then they started arguing, and I'm sure the feds came in and mucked it up even more.

So... no more public hospital. Instead we have, Lord hep us, this.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 12:11 PM (Pz4pT)

135 109,
" I have been saying for some time, if the Euros ever get serious about
seeing Islam as a threat, watch for the french to take the lead on the
efforts to root them out, and they WILL be more vicious about it than
people are likely to imagine.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:56 AM (Pz4pT)"

If they don't then the project to make the "New Soviet Man" will be shown to finally be a success. Britain may be the closest to success so far.

Posted by: geoffb5 at March 25, 2017 12:11 PM (d3wbb)

136 I guess Flower Drum Song is like the precursor of Marvel Comics making all their characters minorities or homosexuals or turning Thor into Thora. The Rogers/Astaire musicals of the thirties were incredibly funny and charming, and a few decades later they hoped to recycle that by swapping out Astaire and Rogers and making everybody asian. Ugh, these people. Think I'll go rewatch Top Hat or Shall We Dance.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 12:11 PM (vRcUp)

137 Mutiny On the Bounty 1962 is on TMC with Marlon Brando

*****

I prefer Bounty of the Mutton, a harrowing tale of a three-master that is sheepwrecked in the South Pacific.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:12 PM (wPiJc)

138 Too bad MP4 took off earlier. He could answer the question: crap or not?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 12:12 PM (vRcUp)

139 Personal theory: Without anything to worship, a deep segment of them wishes not only to rule, but to be ruled. Even if they don't agree with it, they want Shiria over them. Just as long as it's not Christian, and the muzzles make them feel like the cucks they so yearn to be.

Posted by: Woooooooah at March 25, 2017 12:13 PM (qBShr)

140 IIRC Japanese is very good for puns too. Even written ones what with multiple meanings to Kanji.

Posted by: geoffb5 at March 25, 2017 12:14 PM (d3wbb)

141 If it was paid for, it was Medicare, Medicaid and
other gov't programs. Also subsidized (probably by the state of
Louisiana) for non-paying customers.

So why did that system go away?

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:01 PM (wPiJc)
=====
In the immortal words of Instapundit: 'Insufficient opportunities for graft'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 25, 2017 12:14 PM (MIKMs)

142 @131 Let's not hasten Ragnarok, here, I am pretty sure we are all better off in our current stations than as stand-ins for Mongolian Pit Fighter #3 (ace is a genius btw - I knew EXACTLY what he meant with that right away) and you know what happened to him, and if you do survive the pits, after a while it means climbing out on the hood of a moving semi under crossbow fire to get a shotgun shell because it is Just. That. Valuable.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 12:14 PM (HV1LS)

143 They called the regional public hospital... Regional Hospital.

****

Heh!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:14 PM (wPiJc)

144 Back from visiting with daughter. This thread still alive?

BurtTC #77: The dread of many in Europe is less about not having people to man the jobs, it's about not having taxpayers paying into their retirement benefits pool.

Ah, yes.

Funny how it's still a form of having children as old-age insurance, isn't it? Just socialized rather than tribal-familial.

Just emancipate the robots and then they'll have to be paid wages, and those wages can be taxed, right? (Unless, once emancipated, the robots mostly decide to go on welfare. (Imagine how they can game the EBTs!))

[I should probably denounce my raciss self now, shouldn't I?]

Posted by: mindful webworker - or... is he? at March 25, 2017 12:16 PM (jqZ8a)

145 Many including me are thinking Leftists have in their goal of
destruction of western civilization and the individual have found allies
in Islam.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 11:12 AM (GPaiX)

And replace it with?

Posted by: Tami at March 25, 2017 11:18 AM (Enq6K)

Transnational socialism. The globalists, in their hubris, think everyone will be happy proles laboring under their enlightened rule.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 25, 2017 12:16 PM (5Yee7)

146 My Dad worked for Humana when they used to have hospitals. They had one in London by Lord's Cricket Ground.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 12:17 PM (bMQv/)

147 Older cisnormative, white males are particularly fascinated by the sheer destructive power of the shotgun bullet.

Posted by: The MFM at March 25, 2017 12:17 PM (Tyii7)

148 115
Going back to religion, the First Amendement did not anticipate non western systems and ideas.
Posted by: Damiano at March 25, 2017 12:01 PM (n3oGs)

Great comment overall.

The First Amendment was intended to prevent a recurrence of the religious wars in Europe between Catholics and Protestants, which were still pretty fresh in everyone's mind. The Founders never in their worst nightmares imagined that Muslims would come to the New World in great numbers.

Individual Muslims can be tolerated only when they are a very tiny minority in a society. Once Islam establishes a foothold, it makes increasing demands on the larger society, and enforces them with ever-increasing violence. Then all bets are off.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 12:17 PM (sdi6R)

149 I once asked my surgeon uncle, "If there were a way to eliminate your costs of dealing with the government and insurance companies, would you agree to work two days a week without pay?"

He said, "I'd take that deal in a heartbeat."

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 25, 2017 12:18 PM (97XyN)

150 Western women need more excitement in their lives? Like increasing the odds of being raped or murdered? Or marrying, having children with a refugee, only to have no rights when refugee decides to return to home country - with her children?

I have a difficult time believing women have become this stupid. But I've been out of the dating scene for decades.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum

The article addresses specifically feminist politicians like Merkel.

You are a regular here. After all you have read, do you really have a difficult time believing that radical feminist politicians who do not think they will suffer consequences for their actions, could "be that stupid"?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 12:18 PM (vRcUp)

151 Simpler premise...

'Nice' has become the bottom line desire of Goody two shoes leftists... and many on the right as well...

Nice taken to extremes, is suicidal... its anti survival.

And the Left is forcing their view of 'nice' on us all... even to the point of enslaving workers through an income Tax system, to take the labor of those who have jobs, to pay for stuff for those who will not.

The problem is, we have reached the point where, 'its time to not be nice' (yes, snuck in a Roadhouse reference...)...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 12:18 PM (NgKpN)

152 Just emancipate the robots and then they'll have to be paid wages, and those wages can be taxed, right? (Unless, once emancipated, the robots mostly decide to go on welfare. (Imagine how they can game the EBTs!))

[I should probably denounce my raciss self now, shouldn't I?]
Posted by: mindful webworker - or... is he? at March 25, 2017 12:16 PM (jqZ8a)

No, that's an hilarious visual right there. We all fear the robots will become sentient, and start mercilessly killing us.

Instead, they develop artificial intelligence... and become WAY better than us at figuring how to get paid to do squat.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 12:19 PM (Pz4pT)

153 If we want to talk about musicals that totally miss their target, there is always Xanadu. Not even Olivia Neutron Bomb could save that picture.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 25, 2017 12:19 PM (NEGWE)

154 Older cisnormative, white males are particularly fascinated by the sheer destructive power of the shotgun bullet.

Posted by: The MFM

Homonormative libtards of all ages and races are particularly fascinated by the sheer coercive power of government.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 12:20 PM (vRcUp)

155 Goodness I'm an Insomniac - went to bed and here I am , sipping Aussie chardy with a cat chewing on my toes...

Health care - ours is far from ideal, being single payer plus a top up of private health insurance but it staggers along and I don't think we kill as many people here as the NHS does in the UK

And it's a Federal thing, all states here have the same Medicare tax and the same private health insurance rates. Everyone here is covered by Medicare to a certain extent - my GP bulk bills (she is paid by Medicare) and if I go to my local hospital without private insurance I'm still treated but I can't choose my doctor and I might be on a waiting list for a year for a hip replacement - with health insurance I can rock up to my local public hospital OR my private hospital of choice and get my hip replaced next week.

One thing we don't do here is employer paid health insurance (unless it's in a negotiated salary package )

It's fascinating to read about your system, and others around the world - I wonder how those one world government types will manage to control centralised health care covering the whole world ?

Posted by: Aussie at March 25, 2017 12:20 PM (N/OEj)

156 Off new German sock.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 12:21 PM (kTF2Z)

157 Hillary.

With a Blackberry.

In the woods.

Posted by: mindful webworker - clue less at March 25, 2017 12:21 PM (jqZ8a)

158 In upstate NY's cities, I see this as a way to boost population, since the cities have lost so many people moving out. Its something the liberal mayors don't mention. This may be true in other cities around the country. Look at Baltimore, Chicago, etc. Build the population, get more federal dollars, or least they hope so.

Posted by: Colin at March 25, 2017 12:21 PM (DLV/d)

159 *pauses*

THAT is what they should have named that robot in Heavy Metal - Paolo.

"But what if I come home to find you screwing the toaster."

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 25, 2017 12:21 PM (NEGWE)

160 James Shigeta also starred in The Crimson Kimono with Jeffrey Hunter. Two war buddies who are now cops investigating the murder of a torch singer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 25, 2017 12:04 PM (NEGWE)

That sounds interesting. I'll have to look that one up. But first, for some reason, I am going to re-watch The Presidio, which your comment reminded me of. Not very much similarity in the films at all, I'm guessing, except two guys investigating a murder. But enough to put me in mind of it.

Posted by: HTL at March 25, 2017 12:21 PM (JsSFV)

161 I caught American Psycho before it was cancelled, I enjoyed it.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 12:22 PM (bMQv/)

162 If anyone remembers Hillarycare from 1994, the big pitch was that it wasn't fair for anyone to have better care than anyone else.

Some people are worth more than others, and deserve more as a consequence. Duh.

Now we're just arguing about which people those are.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 12:22 PM (SRKgf)

163 I wonder how those one world government types will manage to control centralised health care covering the whole world ?

Posted by: Aussie at March 25, 2017 12:20 PM (N/OEj)

By rationing it and deciding who is worthy to live.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 25, 2017 12:23 PM (aMlLZ)

164 I wonder how those one world government types will manage to control centralised health care covering the whole world ?

******

Hang on a few years, we'll get to it. We're still tweaking the legislation to address all the problems that arose from 10 years ago. We're nothing if not responsive to changing needs.

Posted by: One World Government Type Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:24 PM (wPiJc)

165 Elvis Costello on MTVlive just started

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 12:24 PM (bMQv/)

166 I have a difficult time believing women have become this stupid. But I've been out of the dating scene for decades.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum

The article addresses specifically feminist politicians like Merkel.

You are a regular here. After all you have read, do you really have a difficult time believing that radical feminist politicians who do not think they will suffer consequences for their actions, could "be that stupid"?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 12:18 PM (vRcUp)

1 out of 4 women are on some mood or brain chemical altering medicine.

I'm out in the dating scene... ITS FUCKING NUTS OUT HERE!!!

Met a woman a couple weeks ago, who really believed the whole 'Brit Royal family are Reptiloids' thing....

Met one two nights ago... seemed OK... really hit it off... but at dinner hinted about some dark secret... and next morning cut all contact...

Met another who was Jesus this and Jesus that... to the point I thought I needed his permission to take her out again... she was looking for happiness in religion... not understanding that She was the one making herself unhappy...

It's crazy out here.... and seems to be getting crazier...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 12:25 PM (NgKpN)

167 Elvis Costello on MTVlive just started
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 12:24 PM (bMQv/)

30 or more years ago? Sure.

He's just a bitter old lefty these days. No thanks.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 12:25 PM (Pz4pT)

168 I wonder how those one world government types will manage to control centralised health care covering the whole world ?

Man, we could run on repealing that shit for fifty years!

Posted by: Pauli Ryan at March 25, 2017 12:25 PM (97XyN)

169 OK trying bed again

Nightynight all and have a great yesterday!

Posted by: Aussie at March 25, 2017 12:25 PM (N/OEj)

170 My aim is true.

Posted by: Bubba Clintoon at March 25, 2017 12:27 PM (Tyii7)

171 Does the author state, that the feminization of European men, is responsible for the import of the unapologetic rapists from the middle east and the religion that sanctions rape of non believers?

Posted by: plum at March 25, 2017 12:27 PM (vzZKT)

172 Elvis Costello on MTVlive just started

*****

♫♫

This is hell, this is hell
And it never gets better or worse
But you get used to it
After a while
'Cause heaven is ~~hell~~ Nevaeh in reverse.

Tweaked it for you, Elvis!

Posted by: One World Government Type Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:27 PM (wPiJc)

173 And how long until the howls of outrage that it just isn't fair that the rich get quality care while Jose has to wait for months for shitty care?

Posted by: Achmed the new German at March 25, 2017 12:03 PM (kTF2Z)

No waiting in Mexico, Jose. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 12:28 PM (SRKgf)

174 It's crazy out here.... and seems to be getting crazier...
Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 12:25 PM (NgKpN)

Le Sigh, tis true.

I got single the hard way, through death. Every woman I have met since then, essentially if I/we start getting interested, I find myself having to apologize for the behavior of her ex.

No thanks. Single is better than that. It really really is.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 12:28 PM (Pz4pT)

175 Ack, not Jeffrey Hunter but Glenn Corbett. Had my Star Trek actors confused.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052713/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_88

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 25, 2017 12:30 PM (NEGWE)

176 You are a regular here. After all you have read, do you really have a difficult time believing that radical feminist politicians who do not think they will suffer consequences for their actions, could "be that stupid"?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear�

Feminists? No. But like democrats, I believe their numbers shrink every year. Which was the untold 'big story' of the Hillary defeat. She thought she would get 100% of the female vote. My numbers, based on memory, seem to indicate she didn't win half of them.

Normal women, well I don't believe they're that stupid. Every year, as feminists become more strident and anti-male, they turn off a larger percentage of normal women.

(I define normal women as seeing males as imperfect creatures, yes. But ones they'd rather live with, than without. )

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 25, 2017 12:30 PM (ZFUt7)

177 On one hand, we have the First Amendment, specifically freedom of religion. I think most of us would agree that this is absolute and inviolable.

I respectfully disagree. There are some religions we would not, should not, and in fact have not allowed.

We would not tolerate the Aztec religion, for example, and more recently, did not tolerate the Mormon religion until it jettisoned polygamy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 12:30 PM (SRKgf)

178 Saw a kid not too long ago named Neaveah.

I asked the parents, "So is that like 'heaven' spelled backwards incorrectly?

Posted by: One World Government Type Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:31 PM (wPiJc)

179 A prescient (and unfortunately accurate) assessment of feminism's role in the ultimate downfall of free societies:

"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy."
George Orwell, 1984

Posted by: Former MSM journalist, active Moron at March 25, 2017 12:32 PM (g+yem)

180 /internationalist sock off.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:32 PM (wPiJc)

181 28 Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:20 AM (Pz4pT)

Sorry, I forgot to make my main point. None of the factions of the left REALLY want to destroy ALL of Western Civ. They only want to destroy the part they hate, but the end result will be a destruction of all, which I think if we're honest, is not the goal.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 11:22 AM (Pz4pT)

Yep. You can't have just a little bit of Stage IV cancer...

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 25, 2017 12:32 PM (0mRoj)

182 Feminists? No. But like democrats, I believe their numbers shrink every year. Which was the untold 'big story' of the Hillary defeat. She thought she would get 100% of the female vote. My numbers, based on memory, seem to indicate she didn't win half of them.

Normal women, well I don't believe they're that stupid. Every year, as feminists become more strident and anti-male, they turn off a larger percentage of normal women.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 25, 2017 12:30 PM (ZFUt7)

Two elderly sisters from New York live across the street from us, and I'd assumed that they were in the sweet spot of Hillary's demographic.

I'd put up a sign supporting our Republican Congressman (no Trump sign; they were vandalized with regularity around here), and the sisters heartily approved. We got to talking, and it turns out that they detest Hillary as much as any of us.

I was astonished.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 12:33 PM (SRKgf)

183 Pasiphae: the Greek queen who so loved her monster Minotaur that the entire country had to sacrifice their young people every year to appease the monster.

Mutti Merkel has become Pasiphae.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 25, 2017 12:33 PM (MIKMs)

184 I got single the hard way, through death. Every woman I have met since then, essentially if I/we start getting interested, I find myself having to apologize for the behavior of her ex.

And her parents.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 25, 2017 12:34 PM (0mRoj)

185 178 Saw a kid not too long ago named Neaveah.

I asked the parents, "So is that like 'heaven' spelled backwards incorrectly?
Posted by: One World Government Type Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:31 PM (wPiJc)

I really don't get the "spelling shit backwards" thing at all. WTF? Nomar Garciaparra, because "Nomar" is "Roman" spelled backwards? Really? Why would even name a kid "Roman" in the first place, much less spell it backwards for some reason best known to yourself?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 12:35 PM (SRKgf)

186 The Left is in total Pasiphae. They are in love with their pet monster even as it devours everything, including them.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 25, 2017 12:35 PM (NEGWE)

187 I guess Flower Drum Song is like the precursor of Marvel Comics making all their characters minorities or homosexuals or turning Thor into Thora. The Rogers/Astaire musicals of the thirties were incredibly funny and charming, and a few decades later they hoped to recycle that by swapping out Astaire and Rogers and making everybody asian. Ugh, these people. Think I'll go rewatch Top Hat or Shall We Dance.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 12:11 PM (vRcUp)

Not to worry...the very next year Rogers and Hammerstein made Sound of Music, which I believe is the whitest musical ever.

Personally, I always found the Astaire and Rogers movies to be somewhat formulaic, but that doesn't stop me from watching one occasionally. My wife likes them a lot, so I get a merit badge whenever I suggest putting one on. Edward Everett Horton is always a hoot, too. He was like Tony Randall to their Doris Day/Rock Hudson, i.e. comic relief/sidekick. Then there's Follow the Fleet, with an interesting cast (including Harriet from the pre-Ozzy era) plus shots of the old San Francisco ferry fleet and the old Pacific Fleet.

Posted by: HTL at March 25, 2017 12:35 PM (JsSFV)

188 Sgt. Mom has a comment at the Chicago Boyz post:

Sgt. Mom Says:
March 23rd, 2017 at 5:51 pm
It would not surprise me at all to learn that there is also some ghastly psycho-sexual sadistic urge at work among those feminists/socialists who are all keen on Muslim immigration into Western European countries. It's as if (having reduced their native males to emasculated sitzsprinklers) they long to be brutally dominated by the exotic barbarian "other". Or see younger and prettier women be brutally dominated by the unashamedly masculine "Other" in some kind of psychic revenge.

Makes perfect sense to me. The ugly "Mean Girl" feminists wishing revenge on younger, prettier women.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 12:35 PM (sdi6R)

189 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 12:35 PM (SRKgf)

*****

I didn't realize that Nomar was named for backwards Ramon.

I always find the Nevaeh thing in particular to be amusing.

"So, you named your beautiful daughter the "Opposite of Heaven"? The hell, you say!"

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:39 PM (wPiJc)

190 I used to work with a girl named Anaid. I would greet her with good morning, Diana backwards.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 12:39 PM (kTF2Z)

191 I really don't get the "spelling shit backwards" thing at all. WTF? Nomar Garciaparra, because "Nomar" is "Roman" spelled backwards? Really? Why would even name a kid "Roman" in the first place, much less spell it backwards for some reason best known to yourself?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

These are not the child rapists you are looking for.

Posted by: Nomar Iksnalop Kenobi at March 25, 2017 12:39 PM (vRcUp)

192 Yup. The commies lost the cold war, so now they'll use the muzzies to get their way, or at least get even.

Posted by: Dr. Zaius at March 25, 2017 12:40 PM (hW88Z)

193 Sgt. Mom is a Spartan

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 25, 2017 12:40 PM (6FqZa)

194 Makes perfect sense to me. The ugly "Mean Girl" feminists wishing revenge on younger, prettier women.
Posted by: rickl

I wish you hadn't proposed that idea, and that I can't dismiss it out of hand.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 25, 2017 12:41 PM (ZFUt7)

195 There's nothing quite like a good, old-fashioned beat down with a chrysanthemum to humiliate and subdue your enemies.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
---

While sipping green tea.

Posted by: A Lotus eater at March 25, 2017 12:41 PM (ZO497)

196 I got single the hard way, through death. Every woman I have met since then, essentially if I/we start getting interested, I find myself having to apologize for the behavior of her ex.
--------------------------
And her parents.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 25, 2017 12:34 PM (0mRoj)

Yeah, that's true. I know a gal, love her to death, but we're not... eh, compatible, in some very important ways. I still hear how fully atheist she is, and I can't tell her, because she wouldn't hear me, no honey, you're not atheist, you're a-yourparentsreligionist.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 12:41 PM (Pz4pT)

197 "Ugly Mean Girl" -> TrigglyPuff with a truncheon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 25, 2017 12:41 PM (NEGWE)

198 Makes perfect sense to me. The ugly "Mean Girl" feminists wishing revenge on younger, prettier women. Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 12:35 PM (sdi6R)
=====

Everything can be reduced to the archetypal 'mean girls' or 'frat boyz' and can forget history.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 25, 2017 12:42 PM (MIKMs)

199 There's nothing quite like a good, old-fashioned beat down with a chrysanthemum to humiliate and subdue your enemies.

*****

Maybe we could arm our side with poppy guns.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:42 PM (wPiJc)

200 I really don't get the "spelling shit backwards" thing at all. WTF? Nomar Garciaparra, because "Nomar" is "Roman" spelled backwards? Really? Why would even name a kid "Roman" in the first place, much less spell it backwards for some reason best known to yourself?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 12:35 PM (SRKgf)

No, that one makes sense. The Romans never used steroids.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 12:43 PM (Pz4pT)

201 TrigglyPuff with a truncheon.

*****

You misspelled luncheon.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:43 PM (wPiJc)

202 "Ugly Mean Girl" -> TrigglyPuff with a truncheon.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 25, 2017 12:41 PM (NEGWE)

She seems more like the blurglecruncheon type.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 12:44 PM (8nWyX)

203 Backward names I think are just another way of naming kids like snowflakes.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 12:44 PM (GPaiX)

204 202 "Ugly Mean Girl" -> TrigglyPuff with a truncheon.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 25, 2017 12:41 PM (NEGWE)

She seems more like the blurglecruncheon type.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 12:44 PM (8nWyX)

She'll rend you in the gobberworts, man. Right in the fucking gobberworts.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 25, 2017 12:46 PM (0mRoj)

205 BurtTC, Costello's bitter lyrics are what makes him great. Could care less about his politics.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 12:47 PM (bMQv/)

206 These flower puns are really trying my patiens.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 12:47 PM (kTF2Z)

207 Re: the "eating out" study in the sidebar. Further research may reveal they're many of the same folks that can't scrape together $500 to pay an unexpected expense.

Posted by: BignJames at March 25, 2017 12:48 PM (x9c8r)

208 Sgt. Mom has a comment at the Chicago Boyz post:

Sgt. Mom Says:
March 23rd, 2017 at 5:51 pm
It would not surprise me at all to learn that there is also some ghastly psycho-sexual sadistic urge at work among those feminists/socialists who are all keen on Muslim immigration into Western European countries. It's as if (having reduced their native males to emasculated sitzsprinklers) they long to be brutally dominated by the exotic barbarian "other". Or see younger and prettier women be brutally dominated by the unashamedly masculine "Other" in some kind of psychic revenge.
---------------
Makes perfect sense to me. The ugly "Mean Girl" feminists wishing revenge on younger, prettier women.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 12:35 PM (sdi6R)

I do find there to be some incongruence that I cannot quite explain to myself. Some of the more strident feminists I have encountered are very prominently sexy, to the point of going out of their way to wear the short skirts, and the hair all pron star styled, and the mousy frumpy ones are much more quietly on board with the sisterhood.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 12:48 PM (Pz4pT)

209 No s.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 12:48 PM (bMQv/)

210 198
Everything can be reduced to the archetypal 'mean girls' or 'frat boyz' and can forget history.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 25, 2017 12:42 PM (MIKMs)

One of my favorite Kurt Vonnegut quotes was, "When you reach a certain age, you realize you're being governed by people you knew in high school."

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 12:48 PM (sdi6R)

211 207 Re: the "eating out" study in the sidebar. Further research may reveal they're many of the same folks that can't scrape together $500 to pay an unexpected expense.
Posted by: BignJames at March 25, 2017 12:48 PM (x9c8r)

This just blows my mind. First that people don't get this to begin with, and second that there would be a study on something so blindlingly obvious.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 25, 2017 12:49 PM (0mRoj)

212 Backward names I think are just another way of naming kids like snowflakes.

*****

Yeppers. Everybody wants their baby to be the most specialest uniquest (I've seen Unique as a name) every.

I think it will be funny in a few years when little special Tiphannee goes to first grade and meets six other Tiphannees.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:49 PM (wPiJc)

213 ThisTV is showing 'Fail-Safe.' Some thoughts:

1. Strangelove stomps the shit out of this.

2. Henry Fonda is a pain-in-the-ass. Especially when he's playing a left-wing Christ figure. Merkin Muffley is actually a more likeable character.

3. Needs moar Major Kong.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 25, 2017 12:49 PM (oVJmc)

214 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 12:35 PM (SRKgf)

I guess Roman Gabriel was a twofer.

Posted by: BignJames at March 25, 2017 12:50 PM (x9c8r)

215 In a moment of sanity, the Charlotte (of course) School board has, under pressure, removed 'Jacob's New Dress' from the the Elementary curriculum.

It's worth noting that no notice was given to parents that the book was going to be used. When they found out, the book was pulled.

http://tinyurl.com/mzjdhvn

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 12:51 PM (ZO497)

216 Backward names I think are just another way of naming kids like snowflakes. Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 12:44 PM (GPaiX)
=====

Eternal vigilance! Last weekend I was lamenting the silliness of the female parent of my grandchild wanting an unique name. I'm really big on tradition -- because then the poor kid has enough family baggage to overcome but it is appropriate and excusable. This whole nonsense of 'unique' names is making me nuts. The new dog got the last name floated, but they already have two cats and a new puppy.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 25, 2017 12:51 PM (MIKMs)

217 One of my favorite Kurt Vonnegut quotes was, "When you reach a certain age, you realize you're being governed by people you knew in high school."
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 12:48 PM (sdi6R)

You have no idea how appropriate that saying is to me...

I went all through school with Dennis Cardoza... who was in the House of Representatives...

He was a weasel when young... and never changed...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 12:51 PM (NgKpN)

218 To the writer of the side column: It's Suspiria, NOT Suspira.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at March 25, 2017 12:51 PM (S2VsH)

219 ThisTV is showing 'Fail-Safe.' Some thoughts:
1. Strangelove stomps the shit out of this.
2. Henry Fonda is a pain-in-the-ass. Especially when he's playing a left-wing Christ figure. Merkin Muffley is actually a more likeable character.
3. Needs moar Major Kong.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 25, 2017 12:49 PM (oVJmc)

Yup....Henry Fonda blows. Larry Hagman is sober in that one I think.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 25, 2017 12:52 PM (5VlCp)

220 I eat out all the time and have plenty of money.

Posted by: Huma at March 25, 2017 12:53 PM (89T5c)

221 I'm not sure if Chuck Palahniuk, author of Fight Club was the first to apply the 'snowflake' tag as a pejorative. But I'd like to think so. He initially used it against males...

Tyler Durden:�Listen up, maggots. You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 25, 2017 12:53 PM (ZFUt7)

222 BurtTC, Costello's bitter lyrics are what makes him great. Could care less about his politics.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 12:47 PM (bMQv/)

It was before my time, but the song "Radio, Radio" got him banned from many radio stations, because it was so bitterly accurate in its portrayal of the music biz.

And songs like "Alison" are bittersweet, and you can hear the pain any man has known, if he has spent any amount of time in the dating scene.

But he got older, and I got older, and frankly I don't care about any of that stuff anymore. It's not at all interesting to me, to hear a 60 year old man sing about the girl that got away, or the culture he so doesn't fit into.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 12:53 PM (Pz4pT)

223 212
I think it will be funny in a few years when little special Tiphannee goes to first grade and meets six other Tiphannees.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:49 PM (wPiJc)

Nah, there will be six different spellings of Tiphannee.

When I lived in an apartment, my downstairs neighbor had daughters whose names were pronounced Jasmine and Sierra.

I sent them a Christmas card one year, and learned that I had misspelled both their names. Turns out they were Jazmine and Ciara.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 12:54 PM (sdi6R)

224 These flower puns are really trying my patiens.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 12:47 PM (kTF2Z)
=====Duh. You are impatiens. (since nobody jumped on the garden pun yet)

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 25, 2017 12:55 PM (MIKMs)

225 This whole nonsense of 'unique' names is making me nuts.

*****

This business will get out of control and it will get out of control fast. We will be lucky not to be named Phosphorillia Pusillanimiss Jones.

/Adm. Painter

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:55 PM (wPiJc)

226 Nomar Garciaparra, because "Nomar" is "Roman" spelled backwards? Really? Why would even name a kid "Roman" in the first place, much less spell it backwards for some reason best known to yourself?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 12:35 PM (SRKgf)

No, that one makes sense. The Romans never used steroids.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 12:43 PM (Pz4pT)

Well... that and the fact that Nomar is NOT Roman spelled backwards... that would be Namor....

Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 12:55 PM (NgKpN)

227 224 These flower puns are really trying my patiens.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 12:47 PM (kTF2Z)
=====Duh. You are impatiens. (since nobody jumped on the garden pun yet)
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 25, 2017 12:55 PM (MIKMs)

/throws flag...

Clear violation of the Thread Boundary rule... flower puns clearly belong in the Gardening thread...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 12:57 PM (NgKpN)

228 Hey that could be Lena Dunham's next project = remake Manos.

This time you root for the evil spirit to win.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 25, 2017 12:57 PM (NEGWE)

229 **wanders off**

Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:58 PM (wPiJc)

230 Well... that and the fact that Nomar is NOT Roman spelled backwards... that would be Namor....
Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 12:55 PM (NgKpN)

Yup...Namor Gabriel played for the Eagles many moons ago.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 25, 2017 12:58 PM (5VlCp)

231 Then there's Follow the Fleet, with an interesting cast (including Harriet from the pre-Ozzy era) plus shots of the old San Francisco ferry fleet and the old Pacific Fleet.

Posted by: HTL

I know I've seen that ... can't remember it though. Thanks for the reminder - gotta rewatch that. I have a Ginger Rogers fetish that probably only MP4 could appreciate.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 12:59 PM (vRcUp)

232 Jya ne minna. Work beckons so *thud*

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 25, 2017 01:00 PM (NEGWE)

233 I was surprised this week to learn that a third cousin and her husband have given their new baby my (family's) surname as a first name.

It's a little odd using it as a first name, but I was pleased as punch that they used a family name.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 01:01 PM (ZO497)

234 This business will get out of control and it will
get out of control fast. We will be lucky not to be named Phosphorillia
Pusillanimiss Jones. /Adm. Painter Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:55 PM (wPiJc)
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Sweet, but stupid young woman (college graduate, no less). Unfortunately, she might do something like that.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 25, 2017 01:01 PM (MIKMs)

235 I think it will be funny in a few years when little special Tiphannee goes to first grade and meets six other Tiphannees.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 25, 2017 12:49 PM (wPiJc)

Nah, there will be six different spellings of Tiphannee.

When I lived in an apartment, my downstairs neighbor had daughters whose names were pronounced Jasmine and Sierra.

I sent them a Christmas card one year, and learned that I had misspelled both their names. Turns out they were Jazmine and Ciara.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 12:54 PM (sdi6R)

It astounds me that the trailer trash names of a couple decades ago are considered quaint and too traditional.

Perhaps we're one generation removed from all the girls being named Joan and Mary.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 01:02 PM (Pz4pT)

236 Has anyone heard from Ricardo Kill since his health issues?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 01:02 PM (kTF2Z)

237 I eat out all the time and have plenty of money.

Posted by: Huma

I have struggles with weight gain. I think this would be an awesome diet. Some government weight loss agency forces me to perform oral sex on Hillary and then I lose my appetite for the next 24 hours. GAINZZZ.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 01:03 PM (vRcUp)

238 If I have a son, I'll name him Obo, Bob inside out.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 25, 2017 01:03 PM (Nwg0u)

239 233 I was surprised this week to learn that a third cousin and her husband have given their new baby my (family's) surname as a first name.

It's a little odd using it as a first name, but I was pleased as punch that they used a family name.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 01:01 PM (ZO497)

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Hammer Jones?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 01:03 PM (kTF2Z)

240 I didn't realize that Nomar was named for backwards Ramon.

Yeah, I realize that "Nomar" is "Ramon" not "Roman" spelled backwards, but that's what his father claimed was the origin of the name (eman?).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 01:04 PM (SRKgf)

241 My brothers name is Bob, but he spells it backwards.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 01:04 PM (kTF2Z)

242 Duke - I mentioned RK last night. No word from him.

Pretty unsettling for someone to hint at not feeling well, then disappear.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 01:05 PM (ZO497)

243 Well... that and the fact that Nomar is NOT Roman spelled backwards... that would be Namor....

Posted by: Don Q.

I wanna be detades.

Posted by: E. Nomar Yeoj at March 25, 2017 01:05 PM (vRcUp)

244 I actually read the novel "Fail-Safe" before I saw the movie. I thought it was pretty good.

It's kind of interesting that the movie version of "Fail-Safe" and "Dr. Strangelove" came out almost simultaneously, since they both had the same basic plot. Was "Dr. Strangelove" a satirical take on the same book, or was it based on a different one?

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 01:05 PM (sdi6R)

245 233 I was surprised this week to learn that a third cousin and her husband have given their new baby my (family's) surname as a first name.

It's a little odd using it as a first name, but I was pleased as punch that they used a family name.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 01:01 PM (ZO497)

It's kind of an upper class signaling thing, as far as I can tell.

Name the kid Givenname Familyname Surname, and he ends up going by G. Familyname Surname. I think it's absolutely required if the kid becomes a lawyer.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 01:06 PM (SRKgf)

246 Hammer Jones?
Posted by: Duke Lowell

--------
Hammer Smith

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 01:06 PM (ZO497)

247 Perhaps we're one generation removed from all the girls being named Joan and Mary.

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Someday soon it's gonna be one day.
Has anybody here seen my old friend Bobby,
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up over the hill
With Abraham, Martin and John.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 25, 2017 01:07 PM (Nwg0u)

248 Hey, Dom Deluise in 'Fail-Safe.'

This movie could use a good musical number!

"Throw out your hands!! Stick out your tush!! Hands on your hips Give them a push!! "

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 25, 2017 01:07 PM (oVJmc)

249 Well... that and the fact that Nomar is NOT Roman spelled backwards... that would be Namor....

Imperius Rex!

Posted by: The Submariner at March 25, 2017 01:08 PM (oVJmc)

250 FYI, Elvis Costello is currently married to jazz singer Diana Krall, they have 2 sons. But he's been married previously...

Posted by: gdgm+ at March 25, 2017 01:08 PM (14ss4)

251 Someday soon it's gonna be one day.
Has anybody here seen my old friend Bobby,
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up over the hill
With Abraham, Martin and John.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 25, 2017 01:07 PM (Nwg0u)

Walking up over the hill? Like silhouettes.

You think they would have learned.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 01:09 PM (Pz4pT)

252 Name the kid Givenname Familyname Surname, and he
ends up going by G. Familyname Surname. I think it's absolutely required
if the kid becomes a lawyer. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 25, 2017 01:06 PM (SRKgf)
=====

Nah, I come from the culture where everyone and all their aunts have the name Mary and everyone and all their uncles have the names Christian.

Middle names (and we are all poor as dirt).

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 25, 2017 01:09 PM (MIKMs)

253

European history of full of over reactions... and they are about due...
Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 11:58 AM (NgKpN)

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This is exactly what the left is pushing in this country. And it's a toss-up how it's going to end. There could be trains for both sides.

Remember. The left wants chaos. The left NEEDS chaos.

Posted by: Soona at March 25, 2017 01:10 PM (Fmupd)

254
Name the kid Givenname Familyname Surname, and he ends up going by G. Familyname Surname. I think it's absolutely required if the kid becomes a lawyer.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Yeah, well names are deceiving. I'm surprised by the occasional thug who gets busted named something like, Theodore Pryce-Wilkinson II. It's like, their parents had the right idea, but the culture squashed it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 01:10 PM (ZO497)

255 Some government weight loss agency forces me to perform oral sex on Hillary and then I lose my appetite for the next 24 hours. GAINZZZ.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 01:03 PM (vRcUp)

Possible side effects include mental dysfunction.

Posted by: BignJames at March 25, 2017 01:10 PM (x9c8r)

256 DPRK_News
25/03/17 13:17
Electrical lights shut off across Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea in observance of Earth hour, for preservation of precious climate.
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hahaha

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 25, 2017 01:11 PM (y3aQB)

257 If the Laz-Z-Boy is so great, why isn't it man's last invention?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 25, 2017 01:12 PM (0tfLf)

258 If names meant anything, there would be gardeners out rolling my lawn and tending to the topiary.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 01:12 PM (ZO497)

259 How long before we have Lenin Cheguevara Smith?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 25, 2017 01:12 PM (Nwg0u)

260 Now, this is bitter...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EiOmhOumh-w

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 01:13 PM (bMQv/)

261 Name the kid Givenname Familyname Surname, and he ends up going by G. Familyname Surname. I think it's absolutely required if the kid becomes a lawyer.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Yeah, well names are deceiving. I'm surprised by the occasional thug who gets busted named something like, Theodore Pryce-Wilkinson II. It's like, their parents had the right idea, but the culture squashed it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 01:10 PM (ZO497)

Yeah, I have had the opportunity to encounter young men in situations where young men do not want to be, and I'm surprised that, sprinkled among the names like Lo'quishus and Shaqwazz, there are guys with names like Brian and Mike.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 01:14 PM (Pz4pT)

262 A family member had two years of marital bliss. He adored his wife. Then it all went to crap and so it goes. The wife eventually told him that he was too nice and she no longer respected him.
The daughter of a friend told him that she wants a boy friend that she cannot push around.
It might be that some women want the security of an alpha male and find no joy in Alan Alda feeler types.
Muslims do not put up with feminist crap, they will not be bullied or manipulated. Perhaps some women are drawn to that.

Posted by: Useless, Already Said, But There It Is at March 25, 2017 01:14 PM (Mt8T4)

263 and I'm surprised that, sprinkled among the names like Lo'quishus and Shaqwazz, there are guys with names like Brian and Mike.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Causes one to think that they might be salvageable, since it seems that they are the first thug generation, rather than second or third.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 01:17 PM (NBHj5)

264 All set for the quarters. I'm rooting for Lefty, but I don't think DJ can be stopped.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 01:17 PM (kTF2Z)

265 This is exactly what the left is pushing in this country. And it's a toss-up how it's going to end. There could be trains for both sides.

Remember. The left wants chaos. The left NEEDS chaos.
Posted by: Soona at March 25, 2017 01:10 PM (Fmupd)

Which is exactly why the Left wishes to take away our guns...

And are succeeding here in Clownifornia...

Because those who control the guns, will control the aftermath of the chaos..

Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 01:17 PM (NgKpN)

266 "262 A family member had two years of marital bliss. He adored his wife. Then it all went to crap and so it goes. The wife eventually told him that he was too nice and she no longer respected him.
The daughter of a friend told him that she wants a boy friend that she cannot push around.
It might be that some women want the security of an alpha male and find no joy in Alan Alda feeler types."

Men get lied to about this all their lives.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 25, 2017 01:17 PM (0mRoj)

267 It might be that some women want the security of an alpha male and find no joy in Alan Alda feeler types. Useless, Already Said, But There It Is at March 25, 2017 01:14 PM (Mt8T4)

Please, take some of The Paolo's business cards and share them widely.

Posted by: The Paolo at March 25, 2017 01:18 PM (8nWyX)

268 Islam and the Left share a common enemy: Western Christendom.

Posted by: JAS at March 25, 2017 01:20 PM (lcylG)

269 Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2017 01:14 PM (Pz4pT)

I did not even know it when I named my Son, but there has been a John every other Generation in my family.... since the John who was at Valley Forge...

I just named my Son John, after my Dad.... did not even realize the 'trend' until years later.

Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 01:20 PM (NgKpN)

270 Islam and the Left share a common enemy: Western Christendom.

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And soap.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 25, 2017 01:20 PM (Nwg0u)

271 Daily Reminder: Democrats are guided by Satan.

Posted by: Mega at March 25, 2017 01:20 PM (1CtvB)

272 I heard a story of a sub taking roll and got stuck on L-A. Pronounced Ladasha.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2017 01:21 PM (kTF2Z)

273 My brothers name is Bob, but he spells it backwards.

Posted by: Duke Lowell

If you think Dylan is an overrated cretinous, smelly, douche slob and you are a Weird Al fan, you might find this relevant:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=weird+al+yankovic+bob&FORM=HDRSC3

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 01:23 PM (vRcUp)

274 flower drum song is one of my favorite musicals

Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 25, 2017 01:24 PM (0O7c5)

275 Just think of how inspired Bruce Jenner was by this song.

Posted by: Donna, tan now gone but with &&&&&&& to burn and so there at March 25, 2017 01:26 PM (P8951)

276 Pigs are flying over a frozen Hell! Alex Jones apologizes for wacko theory he promulgated.

http://tinyurl.com/m7coaw4

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 25, 2017 01:27 PM (Nwg0u)

277 273
If you think Dylan is an overrated cretinous, smelly, douche slob and you are a Weird Al fan, you might find this relevant:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=weird+al+yankovic+bob&FORM=HDRSC3
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 01:23 PM (vRcUp)

I don't, but that is hilarious.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 01:28 PM (sdi6R)

278 Daily Reminder: Democrats are guided by Satan.

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Satan spelled backwards is Soros, or, at least, it should be.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 25, 2017 01:31 PM (Nwg0u)

279 Making fun of my name are we? Enjoy your droning.

Posted by: Bob From NSA at March 25, 2017 01:31 PM (kTF2Z)

280 This is very interesting.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/260764/

Posted by: steevy at March 25, 2017 01:31 PM (r/0kC)

281 Making fun of my name are we? Enjoy your droning.

Posted by: Bob From NSA at March 25, 2017 01:31 PM (kTF2Z)

Sweet Ol Bob!

Posted by: BignJames at March 25, 2017 01:32 PM (x9c8r)

282 I just named my Son John, after my Dad.... did not even realize the 'trend' until years later.
Posted by: Don
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There have been an unbroken series of 'Johns', 'Roberts', and 'Mary's' in our family since the early 1700's.

I've rather regretted that my g-g-g-g-grandmother's name of 'Ursula' never got passed along.

There was a 'Marmaduke' in the mix also.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 01:35 PM (ZO497)

283 Off to enjoy the gossip at the local lunch counter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 01:37 PM (ZO497)

284 281 Making fun of my name are we? Enjoy your droning.

Posted by: Bob From NSA at March 25, 2017 01:31 PM (kTF2Z)

Sweet Ol Bob!
Posted by: BignJames at March 25, 2017 01:32 PM (x9c8r)

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You just made the list, buddy!

Posted by: Psycho From NSA at March 25, 2017 01:37 PM (kTF2Z)

285 There was a 'Marmaduke' in the mix also.
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Valentine in my family.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 25, 2017 01:38 PM (MIKMs)

286 This is very interesting.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/260764/
Posted by: steevy at March 25, 2017 01:31 PM (r/0kC)

It is. I don't have any particular fondness for leftist agitators, but isn't a search warrant supposed to at least detail:
- here's where we're searching
- here's what we're searching for
Seems like a bulk dump of many peoples' cell phones could get some cases thrown out, but IANAL.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 01:39 PM (8nWyX)

287 Re: unique names. Have you strolled through an old cemetery lately? Looks like it's not necessarily a recent trend. I walked past a tombstone for "Perna" this morning.

Posted by: April at March 25, 2017 01:39 PM (e8PP1)

288 Just think of how inspired Bruce Jenner was by this song.

Posted by: Donna, tan now gone but with &&&&&&& to burn and so there

Thanks. I usually try to make goofy Jenner comments when applicable, but I was just too tired to bother. I felt guilty so I'm glad someone took up the slack.

What I like about people like Jenner and Shia LaBeouf - they are so silly that even the concept of them makes me laugh.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 01:40 PM (vRcUp)

289 I think that if we want to cover the uncovered, we should have a single payer system in parallel to the regular system. Yes, government hospitals and clinics. Free, or super low fees at least. Yes, subsidized, you and me pay it.

Posted by: blaster at March 25, 2017 11:53 AM (HV1LS)

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Problem is for liberals that will never be enough. Think of how food stamps started out.....a program to help the very poor. And it grew and grew and now 1/2 the country is on it.

Same would happen with this program. Within 25 years 75% of the public would be on the program for "the poor".

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 01:42 PM (vsYKI)

290 My parents were names Herb and Elsie. You don't see those names much today.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 01:42 PM (sdi6R)

291 *named*

Stupid fingers.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 01:43 PM (sdi6R)

292 Or Richard.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 01:44 PM (bMQv/)

293 Actually, Shia LaBeouf should become a tranny and help speed Western Civilization on its way to destruction. I can easily picture him on an MSNBC panel with Zoey Tur and the Wachowskis, talking endlessly about getting into bathrooms.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 01:46 PM (vRcUp)

294 215 In a moment of sanity, the Charlotte (of course) School board has, under pressure, removed 'Jacob's New Dress' from the the Elementary curriculum.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2017 12:51 PM (ZO497)

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We'll see about that.

Posted by: Judges in NC You've Never Heard Of at March 25, 2017 01:46 PM (vsYKI)

295 Actually Elsie or Eleanor?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 01:48 PM (bMQv/)

296 If Trump were a Machiavellian genius, he'd throw his support behind "Medicare for All," House bill HR 676.
https://tinyurl.com/NYTimes-HR676

Posted by: DLS at March 25, 2017 01:50 PM (hJCbk)

297 295 Actually Elsie or Eleanor?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 01:48 PM (bMQv/)

Actually Elsie.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 01:51 PM (sdi6R)

298 "If anyone remembers Hillarycare from 1994, the big pitch was that it wasn't fair for anyone to have better care than anyone else. "

It's weird for me to think that I had no clue what was going on with that. I was a freshman in college in 1994 and was completely oblivious to anything political. And so was everyone in my circle. Ignorance was such bliss.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 01:52 PM (vsYKI)

299 Actually Elsie or Eleanor?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 01:48 PM (bMQv/)

I knew an Eleanor born after 1980. Friendly, cute face, bugnuts insane.

My grandfather's name was Isidor, but nobody - not even my grandmother - knew that until my uncles did some genealogical digging after he died. He changed it to "Harry" at Ellis Island and nobody knows why.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 01:52 PM (8nWyX)

300 Pretty risque for 1962 with a woman showing that much leg and wearing a negligee

Oh and Nancy Kwan? Like a kamikaze on a carrier deck

Posted by: kbdabear at March 25, 2017 01:53 PM (AOrEZ)

301 Daily Reminder: Democrats are guided by Satan.

Posted by: Mega

I'm an atheist, but Democrat shits are almost able to convince me that there is such a thing as "evil" and therefore something like God must exist, in order to establish some kind of non-arbitrary moral standard. That would be funny, if Democrats, with their fanatical dedication to their stupid fake morality that always results in evil, were to convince the majority of atheists that morality was real and that Democrats were evil.

Democrats turn everything to shit. At this point, all this I think this justifies is that they are smooth talking con (wo)men, and that on *pragmatic* grounds, we should reject them. But the bizarre insanity that causes them to do things against their own interests gives me pause. I don't know - in 100 years, I'm guessing we'll have an analysis of how we went crazy.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 01:56 PM (vRcUp)

302 You had to make a conscious effort to be engaged politically back then. There was CNN, but that was about the only all news all the time thing that existed. No Fox, no MSNBC. No internet (at least not on a wide scale), no smart phones, no social media. You could easily exist in a universe where politics just didn't exist. And it was probably there, but I don't remember dealing with political shit everywhere I went. Like I could watch sports and not be lectured about racism every 5 seconds. There were no safe spaces on campus, etc.

What a different world, and it was not that long ago.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 01:56 PM (vsYKI)

303 Nancy is also a name you don't see much anymore.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 01:58 PM (bMQv/)

304 303 Nancy is also a name you don't see much anymore.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 01:58 PM (bMQv/)

____

I'm right fucking here!!

Posted by: Mrs. Pelosi at March 25, 2017 01:58 PM (vsYKI)

305 Nancy is also a name you don't see much anymore.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 01:58 PM (bMQv/)

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I'm right fucking here!!
Posted by: Mrs. Pelosi at March 25, 2017 01:58 PM (vsYKI)

*clears throat*

Posted by: Lindsey "Nancy" Graham at March 25, 2017 01:59 PM (8nWyX)

306 Is Shia Le Boeuf his real name? Weird combo

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 01:59 PM (bMQv/)

307 I'm an atheist, but Democrat shits are almost able to convince me that there is such a thing as "evil" and therefore something like God must exist, in order to establish some kind of non-arbitrary moral standard. That would be funny, if Democrats, with their fanatical dedication to their stupid fake morality that always results in evil, were to convince the majority of atheists that morality was real and that Democrats were evil.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 01:56 PM (vRcUp)

I'm not too religious, not by a stretch, but the dems definitely taught me satan lives, and they are his minions.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 25, 2017 02:00 PM (aMlLZ)

308 My grandfather's name was Nunzio, and the funny bastard couldn't understand why nobody in the family used that name....ever.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at March 25, 2017 02:03 PM (aMlLZ)

309 You made me think of that Lindsey Graham cel phone video.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 02:03 PM (bMQv/)

310 Afternoon all

Ryan is a fuck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2017 02:06 PM (TlKsh)

311 310 Afternoon all

Ryan is a fuck
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 25, 2017 02:06 PM (TlKsh)

____

Take that back!

Posted by: Fuck at March 25, 2017 02:07 PM (vsYKI)

312 Grandfathers were Albert and Felix.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 02:08 PM (bMQv/)

313 Judicial coup status:

[X] Intact
[ ] Challenged or put down

(just a reminder)

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 02:09 PM (QDnY+)

314 Islam and it's adherents will be fine once we give them proper messaging about socialism and tolerance of all.

Things just haven't been properly explained to them yet.

Posted by: Crud Pink at March 25, 2017 02:10 PM (3myMJ)

315 The Veep in W.Va. slamming the Freedom Caucus. This concerns me.

and yes, fuck Paul Ryan with a Mack truck.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 25, 2017 02:12 PM (nN3W/)

316 Ryan is nothing more than the selected leader of a couple hundred GOP congresscritters, themselves elected by and accountable to millions of voters across the country.

If he is derelict or treacherous in some way, presumably that behavior would have consequences with those who select him.

If not - then when you're looking for the main cause of the country's entirely self-inflicted and ridiculous wounds, don't look up - look around.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 02:12 PM (QDnY+)

317 I've known several muslims over the year. I always assumed they were "the good type" of Muslim. But who knows? Every time one of these fucks goes on a killing spree, they started out as normal and then went to not so normal. So for all I know, all the ones I've known secretly wished they could slit my throat. Kinda depresses me that I think like that, but it's a depressing fucking situation.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:13 PM (vsYKI)

318 315 The Veep in W.Va. slamming the Freedom Caucus. This concerns me.

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Fer realz? Yeah that is about an 9 on the concern meter for sure. You know what Joe Biden never did? Slam anyone on the left. Ever.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:14 PM (vsYKI)

319 317 I've known several muslims over the year. I always assumed they were "the good type" of Muslim. But who knows? Every time one of these fucks goes on a killing spree, they started out as normal and then went to not so normal. So for all I know, all the ones I've known secretly wished they could slit my throat. Kinda depresses me that I think like that, but it's a depressing fucking situation.
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:13 PM (vsYKI)

There's even a term for it: "Sudden Jihadi Syndrome".

Look at how many times Muslims our soldiers were training in Afghanistan turned and killed their trainers. They can't be trusted, period.

Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 02:17 PM (sdi6R)

320 Is Shia Le Boeuf his real name? Weird combo

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie

From wikipedia:

LaBeouf was born in Los Angeles, California, as the only child of Shayna (n�e Saide) and Jeffrey Craig LaBeouf.[5] His mother is a dancer and ballerina turned visual artist and clothing jewelry designer.[6] His father is a Vietnam War veteran who had numerous jobs.[7][8][9][10] LaBeouf's mother is Jewish, and his father, who is of Cajun descent, is Christian. LaBeouf has described himself as Jewish,[11] and has stated that he was raised around "both sides"; he had a Bar Mitzvah ceremony, and was also baptized in the Angelus church.[12][13][14][15] One of the camps he attended was Christian.[16] His first name is derived from the Hebrew shai Yah, meaning "gift of God".[17]

Beouf means "Beef" in French, as in "Beouf Bourguinon".

So I guess Shia LaBeouf's name means "The Gift of God is Beef".

I thought it was bacon, but I'm not a theologian.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 02:18 PM (vRcUp)

321 Novel Theory about Muslim Immigration [KT]

I have to disagree with this theory. I think it's totally wrong. Sure, the feminization of our politics has led to a dramatic veering to the left but what's happening with this new fad of pushing to import every muzzie in the world is something totally different. It isn't about feminization, per se.

It used to be that one of the main characteristics of a woman was that she would ruthlessly and selflessly defend her children. That was a huge part of being a mother - of being a woman. But, now, the idea that a Western mother would defend her children has become passe, or even worse. I don't think you could find five young people on the street who have ever even heard of such an idea.

The women of today (the lefty women, of course) are far more concerned with ruthlessly defending the enemies of their children. This is what has changed. The "motherly instinct" seems to have disappeared from our public discourse. I would venture that it came about as these lefty women have been trying to defend rampant abortions for convenience to themselves.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 02:19 PM (zc3Db)

322 His mother is a dancer and ballerina turned visual artist and clothing jewelry designer.[6] His father is a Vietnam War veteran who had numerous jobs

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Man talk about an odd couple for parents. No wonder he's as fucked up as he is.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:20 PM (vsYKI)

323 322 His mother is a dancer and ballerina turned visual artist and clothing jewelry designer.[6] His father is a Vietnam War veteran who had numerous jobs

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Man talk about an odd couple for parents. No wonder he's as fucked up as he is.
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:20 PM (vsYKI)

Maybe, but child actors frequently lose their shit as they grow up, odd parents or no. Hollyweird does a number on you.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 25, 2017 02:22 PM (0mRoj)

324 Pence? Wow, that's not good.

And Emanuel having this third Trump/WH meeting since the election is absurd, and sickening ("architect" of the O-care disaster).

And note how lazy the GOPe is - presumably a result of their confidence that their voters are still the saps they've been for years. Not even a head-fake, a gesture, toward actual politics - publicly documenting the damage and disaster of O-care (beyond the same old empty talking points), identifying fixes (for the most part, just going back to the pre-2014 situation), and tying your political opponents to the current misery and chaos.

So Trump exists primarily because the GOP has lost all credibility with enough voters. Now, even with Trump, the GOP provides a reminder of why it lacks credibility. If there are political/mechanical constraints on instant, simple repeal - and there probably are - FFS explain them in detail, and structure your attack to prove that you're serious. Make the Dems block your bold approach. Acknowledge that your "phased" approach, while perhaps realistic, is simply non-credible, given the GOP's performance.

Heard Mark Meadows on the radio. FFS, even the leader of the revolt, in his rhetoric, feels the need to talk about "safety nets" and making sure nobody is left behind blah blah blah - could be any Dem hack talking. Meanwhile, the only remaining national secret is intact - 10-20 million people grievously damaged by O-care, without insurance for the first time in their lives (cost), small businesses not formed or dissolved, etc.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 02:24 PM (QDnY+)

325 I've known several muslims over the year. I always assumed they were "the good type" of Muslim. But who knows? Every time one of these fucks goes on a killing spree, they started out as normal and then went to not so normal. So for all I know, all the ones I've known secretly wished they could slit my throat. Kinda depresses me that I think like that, but it's a depressing fucking situation.

Posted by: #neverskankles

Here's the test: I work for a company that is Lebanese, so most of the foreigners are Christian. But it also has a fair number of Muslims.

Here's the deal: They NEVER wash their feet in the sink, and whenever we have company parties, we always have alcohol and oysters and pork and various shellfish. And they all love it. So I have confidence these guys are ok. They care more about the company and not so much about their religion.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 02:24 PM (vRcUp)

326 Too much over-thinking in that article.

The reason for the social-suicidal muslim influx is that the Davos crowd has decided that there will be no more war.

And who wages war effectively? The West.

And who have they had to lately wage it against becuz the muslims are going through one of their periodic violent jihadist expansions/jihadist crazy periods? Muslims.

How do you neutralize Western effectiveness at conducting war against 3rd World muslim jihadists?

You flood Western countries with a muslim fifth column, which will be able to now conduct effective jihadist/terrorist warfare within Western nations should they go to war.

That's it. Nothing more than that.

Our Betters want to eliminate war, or rather our ability to fight an effective war.

They are marxists and right now their man weapon is multiculturalism. Multiculturalism breaks a nation into pieces and makes national cohesion almost impossible. All they needed was a violent arm of multiculturalism and now they have imported it.

These people aren't that smart. You don't need to give them credit for 11 dimension chess.

But, the article is useful in pointing out why there has been no defense of European children, wives, grandmothers against the rape and violencefest going on over there.

Ineffectual European leftist pussymen is the correct answer.

Now, ask yourself - why the sudden surge by the Left to tar all heterosexual Western men as rapists and potential rapists?

Posted by: naturalfake at March 25, 2017 02:25 PM (9q7Dl)

327 I know a guy who's wife is Velma. Yeah, just like Mike Hammer's secretary.

Southern girl.

Posted by: JAS at March 25, 2017 02:25 PM (lcylG)

328 327 I know a guy who's wife is Velma. Yeah, just like Mike Hammer's secretary.

Southern girl.

Posted by: JAS at March 25, 2017 02:25 PM (lcylG)

Is her last name Dinkley?

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 25, 2017 02:26 PM (0mRoj)

329 The disturbing thing about Lebanese: they are Christian, but they speak Arabic, although Maimonides also spoke Arabic. And they have eastern names like Oussama and Oday. I realize these are just eastern names, and I know Christians with these names, but I kind of wish they would change their names to Joe, or Fred.

I notice a lot of asian guys at our company are crosslisted. When I email them it's John, but their names are actually something odd like "Jinxin" or some odd thing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 02:28 PM (vRcUp)

330 Watching This Is it, that was going to be quite a show.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 25, 2017 02:28 PM (bMQv/)

331 324: And THIS is why I wasn't celebrating yesterday. I was worried that the assumption that Trump was setting up Ryan was wrong and it seems I was right. And now conservatives are going to be shut out. Nice fucking job guys.

Posted by: Jackal at March 25, 2017 02:28 PM (NiR1r)

332 319 317 I've known several muslims over the year. I always assumed they were "the good type" of Muslim. But who knows? Every time one of these fucks goes on a killing spree, they started out as normal and then went to not so normal. So for all I know, all the ones I've known secretly wished they could slit my throat. Kinda depresses me that I think like that, but it's a depressing fucking situation.
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:13 PM (vsYKI)

There's even a term for it: "Sudden Jihadi Syndrome".

Look at how many times Muslims our soldiers were training in Afghanistan turned and killed their trainers. They can't be trusted, period.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 02:17 PM (sdi6R)

What we in the West do not understand, is that there actions are perfectly aligned with what they believe is 'good'.

Their Culture, and Religion, are both telling them those actions are not just OK, but will be rewarded in Heaven...

They are not insane... they know right from wrong... its just that their definition of what is 'right' is not ours...

And until we recognize that fact, we will never be able to solve this problem....

Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 02:28 PM (NgKpN)

333 And Emanuel having this third Trump/WH meeting since the election is absurd, and sickening ("architect" of the O-care disaster).

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WHAT

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FUCK???

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:29 PM (vsYKI)

334 Germany imports muzzies for the same reason as France and Britain, etc.

They are in a demographic death spiral. Germany needs workers. The natives stopped reproducing.

Importing barbarians will not save your culture.

Posted by: JAS at March 25, 2017 02:31 PM (lcylG)

335 I think it is a simple matter of following the money. The Arab states, or Middle-Eastern states, where these dregs originate, have the wherewithal to bribe or threaten, with money, any Western state that does not allow those Muslim states to cast off their dregs. They have it made there. They don't really have to work for their money, they just pump it out of the ground. It's a very high-margin business and so they can afford to use cash to cajole Western countries into taking their home-grown problems off of their hands.

Posted by: goon at March 25, 2017 02:32 PM (EaQ6/)

336 Is her last name Dinkley?

No anymore. Perhaps that was her maiden name.

Posted by: JAS at March 25, 2017 02:33 PM (lcylG)

337 If the GOP were smart - I know, I know - they would have done a clean repeal of OCare bill together with something Dems support like infrastructure or a big middle class tax cut or pick something that polls at 65%+ approval. Force the Dems to squirm. Even if it didn't pass, fine, at least it puts the Dems on the defensive and they are cast as the obstructionists and Trump is the guy trying to help out people, etc etc.

I mean this is fucking Politics 101.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:34 PM (vsYKI)

338 334 Germany imports muzzies for the same reason as France and Britain, etc.

They are in a demographic death spiral. Germany needs workers. The natives stopped reproducing.

Importing barbarians will not save your culture.

Posted by: JAS at March 25, 2017 02:31 PM (lcylG)

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That would somewhat kind of makes sens *IF* they worked. But they don't work. They live off the system. It's a doubly stupid.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:35 PM (vsYKI)

339 Heard Mark Meadows on the radio. FFS, even the leader of the revolt, in his rhetoric, feels the need to talk about "safety nets" and making sure nobody is left behind blah blah blah - could be any Dem hack talking.

I was really surprised that the Freedom Caucus held strong on this. I didn't have much faith in that group. It was many of the members of the Freedom Caucus, if we recall, that turned at the last minute and voted for Paul Ryan for Speaker, even though everyone and his brother knew that Ryan was a lowlife POS and that he was nothing but a Boehner retread - which was immediately proven true with that insane spending bill he shoved through the minute he got in to let Barky skate for the duration of his illegitimate term and to take any budget (or lack of budget) issues out of the 2016 campaign.

Meanwhile, the only remaining national secret is intact - 10-20 million people grievously damaged by O-care, without insurance for the first time in their lives (cost), small businesses not formed or dissolved, etc.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 02:24 PM (QDnY+)

Yep. I've still got insurance .. but barely. And I can't even really use it for anything. My co-pays are now what a cash office visit should cost and my deductible is twice what it was before BarkyCare (which is what I now get for premiums that are over twice what they were). But no one gives a shit about me - a normal health insurance customer who buys in the individual market. And the fact that me health records are now being centralized and made available to various government turds makes it all 1000 times worse.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 02:36 PM (zc3Db)

340 neverskankles, hate to do this, but I saw that Emanuel info from a link here yesterday (in the comments) that I cannot recall. But the "source" site seemed credible, and had specific factoids confidently reported. Unless they're just making it up. But it said Emanuel had met Trump in December, and there was one other meeting back pre-Jan. 20, and now another one at the WH soon.

Again, unless just plain disinformation - pretty gob-smacking. Even (the pretty stupid) Trump affection for welfare elements muddling the power of insurance - er, "pre-existing conditions" crap - and the even dumber 26-yr old children thing don't exactly require "experts" (esp. discredited ones) to explain them. Just push those incredibly stupid things, if you want.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 02:36 PM (QDnY+)

341 Yep. I've still got insurance .. but barely. And I can't even really use it for anything. My co-pays are now what a cash office visit should cost and my deductible is twice what it was before BarkyCare (which is what I now get for premiums that are over twice what they were). But no one gives a shit about me - a normal health insurance customer who buys in the individual market. And the fact that me health records are now being centralized and made available to various government turds makes it all 1000 times worse.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 02:36 PM (zc3Db)

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But the good news is you have free abortion coverage!!

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:37 PM (vsYKI)

342

Here's the deal: They NEVER wash their feet in the sink, and whenever we have company parties, we always have alcohol and oysters and pork and various shellfish. And they all love it. So I have confidence these guys are ok. They care more about the company and not so much about their religion.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 02:24 PM (vRcUp)

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Yeah, they're okay......until they get the phone call or email, or hear the rousing rant at the mosque or perhaps find comradeship on that jihadi blog.

I don't trust any of them. Their religion is a death-worshipping, repressive, dictatorial pudding. Never forget that.

Posted by: Soona at March 25, 2017 02:38 PM (Fmupd)

343 342

Here's the deal: They NEVER wash their feet in the sink, and whenever we have company parties, we always have alcohol and oysters and pork and various shellfish. And they all love it. So I have confidence these guys are ok. They care more about the company and not so much about their religion.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 02:24 PM (vRcUp)

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Yeah, they're okay......until they get the phone call or email, or hear the rousing rant at the mosque or perhaps find comradeship on that jihadi blog.

I don't trust any of them. Their religion is a death-worshipping, repressive, dictatorial pudding. Never forget that.
Posted by: Soona at March 25, 2017 02:38 PM (Fmupd)

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Some of the 9/11 hijackers hung out at strip clubs and drank alcohol. Doesn't mean anything.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:40 PM (vsYKI)

344 In the 70s and 80s Germany was importing Turks. And those guys worked. They also didn't get citizenship. Come. Work. Go home.

Posted by: JAS at March 25, 2017 02:42 PM (lcylG)

345 Actually neverskankles, politics 101 would have been clean repeal (or something close, or the foundations of clean repeal), and have the Dems block it (and its follow-on measures).

Absolutely no need to "sweeten the pot" by adding some stupid Dem priority like infrastructure spending.

O-care was never popular, was so unpopular its passage helped ravage the Dems' national political standing, and is even less popular now.

It's as one-sided a political issue as there has been in my lifetime. Thus my astonishment and dismay at the idiotic stuff we're seeing.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 02:42 PM (QDnY+)

346 Alex Jones and InfoWars
in
A FEAST OF CROW

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 25, 2017 02:42 PM (5bz7Q)

347 Judicial coup status:

[X] Intact

I agree with you re: repudiation but that doesn't seem to be PDJT's style.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump

"Trump and his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases"

Either he doesn't see that it's not "just another judge" or he figures to keep playing til he gets another judge.

Posted by: DaveA at March 25, 2017 02:42 PM (FhXTo)

348 Killing the infidel is the penance a muzzie gets for liquor and pork.

Posted by: JAS at March 25, 2017 02:43 PM (lcylG)

349 ace made the right call not to go balls-deep in Jones' pizza.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 25, 2017 02:43 PM (5bz7Q)

350 Absolutely no need to "sweeten the pot" by adding some stupid Dem priority like infrastructure spending.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 02:42 PM (QDnY+)

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That's getting done anyway. Might as well have used it to twist some Dem arms.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:44 PM (vsYKI)

351 I'm not even that upset that OCare will be with us forever. I knew that was the case the day it was signed into law. It's that the GOP thinks I'm an imbecile and told me for 6 years they'd repeal it on day 1. I get that it's impossible to get rid of an entitlement. And if they had just been honest and said look man, we can't do this shit. It sucks, we wish we could, we'd love to, but we just can't. We'll do what we can, it won't be perfect, but fuck it, that's the reality of where we are.

I could live with that. But instead Ryan and Co told me that AHCA was the mostest awesomest bill ever. THAT's why I wanted it to die. I'm just so sick of the lying by these pukes.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:48 PM (vsYKI)

352 .until they get the phone call or email,

Gimme that telefon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNRnG026Dr8

Posted by: Donald Pleasance at March 25, 2017 02:50 PM (FhXTo)

353 Ugh BTH I will finish and post a review of Throne of Glass on Amazon before the next week.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 25, 2017 02:52 PM (vRcUp)

354 DaveA, I doubt there is anyone (incl. Sessions) who even recognizes the constitutional system is in tatters, and judicial usurpation has now reached new extremes. There appears to be no ability to actually think among the legal types - they are trapped in a completely obsolete and irrelevant box of mindless deference to judicial supremacy.

I'd offer a hypothetical "straw that breaks the camel's back" situation - say, a judge counter-manding a presidential order to military units - in order to draw the lines more brightly - but there's no need.

This immigration EO crap IS as outrageous, and as baseless, and in the long run possibly as consequential, as something like that - which would be so outlandish even some legal types might murmur the words "judicial lawlessness" and "constitutional breakdown".

But it's being handled like some court put a hold on development of in-holder's logging leases in national forest land, or something. Just another day at the august and non-chaotic default system where "courts have the last say" (contrary to the constitution and common sense).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 02:53 PM (QDnY+)

355 nood pet thread

Posted by: hogmartin at March 25, 2017 02:58 PM (8nWyX)

356 Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 02:53 PM (QDnY+

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Makes one want to take a second look at what the British did in 1812.

Posted by: Soona at March 25, 2017 02:58 PM (Fmupd)

357 It had me conflicted. She's awfully pleasant to look at, but when she started singing I wanted to barf, and frankly, what's her job? In that apartment, what does she do to afford it?

Ready in 20 minutes for a date, with a guy she barely knows???

Oh, nevermind. I know her job.
Posted by: BurtTC

And speaking about over thinking things.

Yeeeesh.

This song is from "Flower Drum Song" a musical by Rogers and Hammerstein.

The time is the late 50s, early 60s when Asian Americans were just starting to go mainstream.

The story is one of Old Country values and first generation coming into conflict with the 2nd and 3rd generation who hold American values.

Twenty years earlier it would've been the Irish or Italian or Jewish family who was the subject of the musical.

And R&H always had a social message in their musicals- in this case, that Asian-Americans make look like they're from the exotic orient -

but, hey, they're just Americans like me or you.

So, the song is nothing more than that- a beautiful American girl singing about loving the fact that she's a beautiful American girl and able to date who she wants and who hopes to get married one day to a great American guy.

Though there is a social context to the song - the song itself literally has no subtext or hidden context beyond the lyrics.

A beautiful American girl loves being a beautiful American girl.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 25, 2017 02:59 PM (9q7Dl)

358 neverskankles, you're wrong to just accept that no entitlement can ever go away. The O-care entitlement is going away, on its own, as we speak. Insurers withdrawing from the system. The "system" financially unraveling.

And again, I know it's a secret to anyone not directly affected, and Americans of all stripes now view everything in terms - only - of how it affects THEM, in the NEXT 20 minutes - but millions and millions of people (like TPOP in this thread) have to go without insurance for the first time in their lives or are getting financially hollowed out or have had their small biz situation effed up by the *destruction of markets*, not by any new entitlement.

Another missing sign of seriousness by the admin. would be for Price to have already gone public with the "hardest" numbers HHS can get on O-care enrollments, and also on damage to the individual/small group sector. Those numbers would show (according to the best outside estimates) that the "beneficiaries" of the new "entitlement" number 1/4 to 1/5 those negatively affected - with the ratio worsening even further as O-care is shrinking.

This is a one-sided issue. Obviously so. Which is why the smallness, irresponsibility, and dishonesty of the GOP (and possibly the administration) is so blazingly obvious.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 03:00 PM (QDnY+)

359 Neither party, zero factions in Congress, and zero lobbyists want Obamacare repealed and/or replace.
End of Story.

As long as the same same two party structure remains in Congress then Obamacare and Single Payer health care will be in our future.

Republicans of all factions don't give a shit about the People, they only care about selling big money lobbyists aganda.

Wise up.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 25, 2017 03:01 PM (1ZlS3)

360 359 Neither party, zero factions in Congress, and zero lobbyists want Obamacare repealed and/or replace.
End of Story.

As long as the same same two party structure remains in Congress then Obamacare and Single Payer health care will be in our future.

Republicans of all factions don't give a shit about the People, they only care about selling big money lobbyists aganda.

Wise up.
Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 25, 2017 03:01 PM (1ZlS3

The same goes with GOPe and Conserative MSM. Thye worship the $$$$$$$. Thus don't give a Fuck about truth or facts or The People. It's all about their corporate sponsors and the lobbyist narrative.

Turn them off. 99% if them are Con Men.

Fuck them. Let new talent rise from their ashes.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 25, 2017 03:07 PM (1ZlS3)

361 Ryan is a garden variety moderate.

The Status Quo Caucus is no better.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 25, 2017 03:08 PM (3myMJ)

362 I think the FC and a lot of other people killed this bill thinking that next time, they'd be included In the drafting of the next O-care fix. Looks like that was wrong, which doesn't surprise me, given the echo chamber that is DC. Yeah the bill was shit, but I'm willing to believe that Trump was serious about his plan. Now he's going to put plan B in place which, given Pence ripping the FC, seems to be to freeze out the FC and conservatives and compromise with the Dems. The Ryan bill was as conservative as it was going to get and would have set the stage for more reforms. Now, we'll still get the R's taking effective ownership, but without anything conservative, like Bloc granting Medicaid, removing minimum coverage (the real reason for the collapse of the individual market IMHO).

Posted by: Jackal at March 25, 2017 03:13 PM (NiR1r)

363 Please God, someone post this at Jezebel or one of the more strident feminist websites. It would provide weeks of entertainment.

Posted by: Dan at March 25, 2017 03:20 PM (9uEHW)

364 Neither party, zero factions in Congress, and zero lobbyists want (to be blamed for )Obamacare repealed and/or replace.
End of Story.

Getting rid of a entitlement is a political death wish and the Democrats and media will remind you every chance they get.

Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2017 03:25 PM (GPaiX)

365 An "entitlement" benefits 5 million people.

The law containing the "entitlement" has a serious-to-catastrophic negative effect on 20-25 million self-sufficient people.

There appears to be some fundamental problem with the idea that this "entitlement" is untouchable, or politically sacrosanct.

Discuss.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 03:27 PM (QDnY+)

366 "Getting rid of a entitlement is a political death wish and the Democrats and media will remind you every chance they get."

That's right. Government subsidized health insurance is the only way to keep the graft flowing and it's now a right as far as most Americans are concerned.

Some version of it will be with us forever.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 25, 2017 03:29 PM (3myMJ)

367 Some version of it will be with us forever.

or until the whole fraud collapses in a few years.

Posted by: DaveA at March 25, 2017 03:32 PM (FhXTo)

368 The entitlement "benefits" an invisibly small segment of the electorate. The damage afflicts a significant chunk of the electorate (who are also much higher on the political participation scale).

Yet it is beyond the intellectual capacity or political skill and courage of anyone to separate these two things (which have zero financial or functional linkage otherwise), fix the disaster, and let the "entitlement" whither and disintegrate on its own?

This is "hard" to do, politically?

Trump and his team, who pretend to care about and understand economic growth, are just going to let this huge obscene anchor lie around the necks of 10s of millions - and, crucially, the small biz sector, source of most job-creation - and move on to tax cuts for a govt. awash in red ink and with an ever-shrinking number of citizens on the tax rolls?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 03:32 PM (QDnY+)

369 So destroying a normal and important part of the financial picture for 10-20 million is no big deal, but ending an entitlement for 5 million is a "political death wish"?

A policy nobody wanted, whose adoption caused the greatest shift in partisan power, nationally, in our history, which remains unpopular, and is directly linked to novel financial misery for millions is untouchable?

These are rhetorical questions, in the Twilight Zone we now appear to inhabit.

Having given up on the country already, it's time to give up on this thread and take my bike into the shop for a tune-up .......

Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2017 03:36 PM (QDnY+)

370 The Freedom Caucus voted in Paul Ryan As speaker. The Freedom Caucus opposed Trump just as much if not more during the primaries and election. The Freedom Caucus has done nothing but sell out America and American Citizensand perform failure theater as well selling out America and American Citizens. What bills have they written up and passed? Why did they have zero bulls ready to go if and when Trump was elected?

They are Con Men just like the GOPe. Fucking pathetic.

Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 25, 2017 03:47 PM (1ZlS3)

371 Right, it's all about the money. If they turn health care over to the free market all the cronies lose their big fat cut. The only winner would be the American people.

The two parties are wholly owned subsidiaries of Lobbyists and the big money interests they represent. There are no parties. It's We The People and PDT (hopefully) vs Them - the Dems and Pubbies - the UniParty.

What an observation!: What's so utterly disgraceful, is not just that Republicans failed so miserably, but that they barely tried, raising questions about whether they ever actually wanted to repeal Obamacare in the first place. http://preview.tinyurl.com/kjpgrhj - He then rambles in the weeds of assumption that we have two separate parties devoid of any heavy external influence.

CTH, however, has taken the time to elaborate on the big money influences on Dims and demPubbies. How it unifies them into one party of self interest against We The People and PDT's goals. - http://preview.tinyurl.com/zcpyo9u

Posted by: gNewt at March 25, 2017 04:02 PM (DYDUy)

372 Posted by: Phone of Blake Lively's Racist Booty at March 25, 2017 03:47 PM (1ZlS3)

But helping to sink this shitty BarkyCare amending was one of the good things the Freedom Caucus has done. I was surprised that they hung tough on this.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 25, 2017 04:25 PM (zc3Db)

373 One of the basic tenets of leftism is "the ends justify the means". In this case the means is going to result in an end that they weren't expecting.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks and his flaming boner of winning at March 25, 2017 04:40 PM (18h+i)

374 http://nyp.st/2n3eO0p
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Why Trump's approval ratings don't matter Salena Zito

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 25, 2017 04:45 PM (y3aQB)

375 Look carefully and you can see a young Hans Gruber right behind the guy on the phone telling him something about "Counting to three".

Posted by: Crom's Dirty Underpants at March 25, 2017 04:55 PM (3W8Vm)

376 Simply put, Western European countries especially are going broke. They need more taxpayers to prop up their Nanny States because their native populations have stopped having kids, a natural consequence when the state swoops between 50-70% of your paycheck for showing up. So they encourage immigration so that they can get more taxpayers. The thought of maybe giving away less free stuff and possibly telling the voters that they are better off getting their own goodies hasn't occurred to them; or if it has, gives them visions of mobs with pitchforks coming to get them (Nanny States that give away the store tend to generate populations of adolescents who only look adult; see France for a good example). That immigration has consequences doesn't occur to the State because the ONLY thing they care about is that they need money, and more taxpayers, NOW.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at March 25, 2017 05:04 PM (YFVDd)

377 332 319 317 I've known several muslims over the year. I always assumed they were "the good type" of Muslim. But who knows? Every time one of these fucks goes on a killing spree, they started out as normal and then went to not so normal. So for all I know, all the ones I've known secretly wished they could slit my throat. Kinda depresses me that I think like that, but it's a depressing fucking situation.
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 25, 2017 02:13 PM (vsYKI)

There's even a term for it: "Sudden Jihadi Syndrome".

Look at how many times Muslims our soldiers were training in Afghanistan turned and killed their trainers. They can't be trusted, period.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2017 02:17 PM (sdi6R)

What we in the West do not understand, is that there actions are perfectly aligned with what they believe is 'good'.

Their Culture, and Religion, are both telling them those actions are not just OK, but will be rewarded in Heaven...

They are not insane... they know right from wrong... its just that their definition of what is 'right' is not ours...

And until we recognize that fact, we will never be able to solve this problem....
Posted by: Don Q. at March 25, 2017 02:28 PM (NgKpN)

What

Different cultures are different?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2017 07:01 PM (P/kVC)

378 80 What do you think the novel theory is?

Mutual self loathing and cultural shame.
The Left, being pussified and collectively frustrated, has found its muscle, and the Muz, being self-conscious about lack of achievement and culturally frustrated, has found its quasi-intellectual legitimacy and enabler.
It's going to be fun-cum-frightening watching them realize they're both each other's useful idiots.

Posted by: BuddyPC

Very good. That's why Obama is a Commie on Monday, Wednesday and Fridays, and an Islamist on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturdays. And on Sunday he rested by taking weird selfies of his weird self.

Other aspects besides the femmy-ness noted at Chicago Boys include the thought, at least originally, that new blood would pay the bills. What a joke that wa$.

Some of it is the hippie dream of a borderless world, typified by the COEXIST bumpersticker. They never notice that its largely one letter that can't seem to get along with all the others--and its not the Star of David. This thinking predates the "I'd Like To Buy the World a Coke"-commercial by thousands of years--at the Tower of Babel.

For some, its virtue-signaling run amok. For others, it seems to be cultural suicide. They're so empty inside that they crave extinction and hope to drag the rest of us with them. No thanks.

Somebody once said no one ever volunteered to be a slave. I don't think that's true anymore. Those mobs screaming at the airports come to mind.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 25, 2017 10:20 PM (Ndje9)

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