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Rest On The Flight To Egypt
Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggio

This is a bit different than the typical Caravaggio. Less muscular and dark but still technically marvelous and evocative of so much.

Posted by: CBD at 09:35 AM




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1
Did they get a meal and a movie, or just hijacked by Black September?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 17, 2017 09:29 AM (mbhDw)

2 I was expecting an Irish landscape.

Posted by: HH at March 17, 2017 09:30 AM (DrCtv)

3 And first!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 17, 2017 09:30 AM (mbhDw)

4 Collecting autographs was Joseph's hobby.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Swears Never Gonna Give You Up, Never Gonna Let You Down at March 17, 2017 09:31 AM (hLRSq)

5 Jesus was a refugee!!!!

/lefties everywhere

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 09:31 AM (wPiJc)

6 They don't make flight attendants like they used to.

Posted by: JEM at March 17, 2017 09:31 AM (TppKb)

7 "I swear. I don't need directions. We're not lost."
-St. Joseph

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 09:32 AM (ELUpj)

8 The first rendition of Na, Na, Hey, Goodbye

Posted by: Roy at March 17, 2017 09:32 AM (VndSC)

9
I see no Golden Arches here. And no "gender questioning" restrooms, either.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot at March 17, 2017 09:32 AM (v1g1+)

10 "I swear. I don't need directions. We're not lost."

-St. Joseph

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I could use a small orange flavored aspirin though

Posted by: Bruce at March 17, 2017 09:33 AM (8ikIW)

11 Mary should have just had a small glass of the Chianti.

Posted by: Roy at March 17, 2017 09:33 AM (VndSC)

12 Lovely. I especially love the tender way he depicted Mary and Jesus. I can totally relate to holding a baby like that, even though it's been a while.

I do wish he had arranged the angel's clothes a bit more carefully, but who am I to question the genius of one so talented.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 09:34 AM (sBOL1)

13
Joseph: second fiddle to Mary, second fiddle to Jesus and second fiddle to... the fiddler.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot at March 17, 2017 09:34 AM (v1g1+)

14 Babies are the most difficult figures for artists to get right.

Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2017 09:34 AM (nNdYv)

15 The angel is hawt.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 17, 2017 09:35 AM (mpXpK)

16 Why is the angel playing violin? Aren't they pretty much limited to harps or lyres by convention?

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at March 17, 2017 09:35 AM (RD7QR)

17

Hark! - a limerick


An angelic visitor aspired
As a comedian perhaps to get hired
To Joseph and Mary he quipped
I've just flown in from E-gypt
And boy, howdy, are my wings tired!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 09:35 AM (wPiJc)

18 I do wish he had arranged the angel's clothes a bit more carefully, but who am I to question the genius of one so talented.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 09:34 AM (sBOL1)

His angels were no angels....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 09:35 AM (rF0hx)

19 Why is the angel playing violin? Aren't they pretty much limited to harps or lyres by convention?

Posted by: joncelli

The first one to go punk

Posted by: Bruce at March 17, 2017 09:35 AM (8ikIW)

20 As to the angel's gender...it's Caravaggio. Who knows what he intended.

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at March 17, 2017 09:35 AM (RD7QR)

21 16 Why is the angel playing violin? Aren't they pretty much limited to harps or lyres by convention?



South of Palestine, that was known as a fiddle.

Posted by: Roy at March 17, 2017 09:36 AM (VndSC)

22 Joseph: Couldn't you have brought a music stand down from heaven, too?

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at March 17, 2017 09:36 AM (PXbkt)

23 That painting needs some wind, but I do like the red hear. Thanks CBD

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2017 09:36 AM (KlI/a)

24 True, joncelli, but technically angels are genderless.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 09:37 AM (sBOL1)

25 And not in the SJW way.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 09:37 AM (sBOL1)

26 If I ever see a ginger angel, I'm looking for the serpent.

Posted by: Roy at March 17, 2017 09:37 AM (VndSC)

27 I do wish he had arranged the angel's clothes a bit more carefully, but who am I to question the genius of one so talented.

Posted by: bluebell

Ya gotta show a little skin, or this thing ain't going to sell.

Ed "Shifty" Goldberg
Caravaggio's Agent



Posted by: Bruce at March 17, 2017 09:37 AM (8ikIW)

28 The left wing shit organization that sends me Emails is crowing about "a beautiful blow against Trump" .Didn't read it butI'm guessing the dickbag riling frim Hawaii.And we are back to lawfare and every other kind of obstruction.

Posted by: steevy at March 17, 2017 09:38 AM (r/0kC)

29 Thanks CBD

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2017 09:36 AM (KlI/a)

You want to meet for a Jameson's later on?

I have the older brat, who has, beyond all expectation, turned into a human being.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 09:38 AM (rF0hx)

30 In before refugee jokes!

Posted by: josephistan at March 17, 2017 09:38 AM (7HtZB)

31 Nice, ahem, wings.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 17, 2017 09:38 AM (X+rUO)

32 24 True, joncelli, but technically angels are genderless.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 09:37 AM (sBOL1)

Yes, but Horde tradition requires some kind of sexual innuendo about the art within the first 100 comments. Reference Section 1.2.6.3(A), subsection iii, "Lascivious Comments Requirements."

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at March 17, 2017 09:38 AM (RD7QR)

33 Good job by the old guy keeping his eyes up considering that wardobe malfunction....

Posted by: steevy at March 17, 2017 09:39 AM (r/0kC)

34 I like redheads. Looks like Caravaggio did too.

Posted by: Surellin at March 17, 2017 09:39 AM (dHQbf)

35
Do ya think the Holy Family ran over Rachel Corrie on their flight into Egypt?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot at March 17, 2017 09:39 AM (v1g1+)

36 Interesting detail from Wikipedia:

the music held by Joseph is a motet by the Flemish composer Noel Bauldeweyn, with a text from the Song of Songs dedicated to the Madonna, Quam pulchra es, "How beautiful you are"

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at March 17, 2017 09:40 AM (PXbkt)

37 You want to meet for a Jameson's later on?

I have the older brat, who has, beyond all expectation, turned into a human being.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 09:38 AM (rF0hx)

Sure. Call me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2017 09:40 AM (KlI/a)

38 28 The left wing shit organization that sends me Emails is crowing about "a beautiful blow against Trump" .Didn't read it butI'm guessing the dickbag riling frim Hawaii.And we are back to lawfare and every other kind of obstruction.
Posted by: steevy at March 17, 2017 09:38 AM (r/0kC)

=================

What was their reaction to the federal judging halting DACA?

"A beautiful blow for separation of powers"?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 09:40 AM (ELUpj)

39
I recognize that music - "Air on a G-String"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot at March 17, 2017 09:40 AM (v1g1+)

40 but technically angels are genderless.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 09:37 AM (sBOL1)

Not Jewish angels. They are considered sons of God.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 09:40 AM (rF0hx)

41 29
You want to meet for a Jameson's later on?

I have the older brat, who has, beyond all expectation, turned into a human being.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 09:38 AM (rF0hx)

=================

He survived the gom jabbar?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 09:41 AM (ELUpj)

42 Well, that angel is different.

Would make a great book cover.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at March 17, 2017 09:41 AM (Om16U)

43 Dan, Randy, and Fred Savage walk into a bar...

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at March 17, 2017 09:41 AM (75WaT)

44 Joncelli, you're right. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 09:41 AM (sBOL1)

45 Quick question,

If a company's servers were "tapped" and that company used voice IP, wouldn't that provide the government with all calls and their contents?

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at March 17, 2017 09:42 AM (s9VMf)

46 On their way into Egypt Mary came down with a bad Sinai infection.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 09:42 AM (wPiJc)

47 Babies, hands and feet.

Caravaggio excels at all three. He used the religious subject to showcase his proficiency in rendering all types of still life. (Note the wine cask at lower left.)

Thinking he used a blackbird as reference material for the angel's wings.

Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2017 09:42 AM (nNdYv)

48 Repost - a really great book is free today and tomorrow: Amy Lynn by Jack July (OSP)

I linked to it, with my review from last year

in nic

Posted by: @votermom @vm at March 17, 2017 09:42 AM (Om16U)

49 Not Jewish angels. They are considered sons of God.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 09:40 AM (rF0hx)
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Hmmmm. So would Caravaggio be painting Christian angels or Jewish angels? Discuss.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 09:43 AM (sBOL1)

50 An angel playing a violin. Joseph holding the score. Joseph depicted as an old man, for whatever reason. Mary in clothes not made for travel. The group stopping off in a bucolic setting somewhere in Europe.
It is a pretty painting.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 09:43 AM (zSVEm)

51 All I ever hear is that Mattis and Tillerson and the other guy are hiring right out of the Obama or Bush II administration. It's perplexing.

Posted by: bjkubbs at March 17, 2017 09:44 AM (n/9Sj)

52 Turkeys Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu has threatened to blow the mind of Europe by sending 15,000 refugees a month to EU territory, in an intensifying dispute with the bloc.

???

Because that is what Allies do?

LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2017 09:46 AM (KlI/a)

53 Happy St. Patrick's Day

St. Patrick's Breastplate, the deer's cry https://youtu.be/PAuJgMDwTlw

Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 17, 2017 09:46 AM (0O7c5)

54 Joseph depicted as an old man, for whatever reason
Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 09:43 AM


Church Tradition holds that Joseph was fairly old when he married Mary.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2017 09:47 AM (p+Wdc)

55 Angels are lightly discussed, as to appearance, in the Bible. The wing thing is pretty much a customary depiction.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 09:47 AM (zSVEm)

56 45 Quick question,

If a company's servers were "tapped" and that company used voice IP, wouldn't that provide the government with all calls and their contents?
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at March 17, 2017 09:42 AM (s9VMf)

===================

"Not knowing the answer, but having seen a TED talk that I think might have been about this, I'm going to say, 'It depends on the politics of the situation.' At least, that's how my gender studies professor phrased it. Why no, I've never taken a computer engineering course, why do you ask?"
-Very smart college student who's struggling with their core classes but acing that gender studies course

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 09:48 AM (ELUpj)

57 So would Caravaggio be painting Christian angels or Jewish angels? Discuss.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 09:43 AM (sBOL1)

The renaissance painters used many Old Testament themes and stories, so I'll bet they blended Old and New for whatever artistic purpose they desired.

But Caravaggio is considered a homosexual by the current crop of art critics and historians, in spite of some evidence that he enjoyed the embraces of women.

And that angel could be either a feminine boy, or a relatively muscular girl.

So...the answer is: Not a clue!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 09:48 AM (rF0hx)

58
BREAKING NEWS!!!!

SEAN HANNITY SHOT AND KILLED JUAN WILLIAMS IN 2011 AFTER HEATED DEBATE ON THE SEAN HANNITY SHOW!!

DESPITE DENIALS BY JUAN WILLIAMS WE ARE STICKING BY OUR ORIGINAL REPORTAGE.

WE NOW RETURN YOU TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED BLOG.

Posted by: THIS is CNN at March 17, 2017 09:50 AM (8XRCm)

59 Joseph described as old is indeed a tradition of a particular group within Christianity. That view is an optional accessory, and not a requirement.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 09:50 AM (zSVEm)

60
Is it me or does it look like Mary is checking out the angel's ass?


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2017 09:50 AM (XWkhW)

61 >>All I ever hear is that Mattis and Tillerson and the other guy are hiring right out of the Obama or Bush II administration. It's perplexing.

Possibly. But the policies seem distinctly different, particularly on North Korea.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 09:51 AM (/tuJf)

62 58
BREAKING NEWS!!!!

SEAN HANNITY SHOT AND KILLED JUAN WILLIAMS IN 2011 AFTER HEATED DEBATE ON THE SEAN HANNITY SHOW!!

DESPITE DENIALS BY JUAN WILLIAMS WE ARE STICKING BY OUR ORIGINAL REPORTAGE.

WE NOW RETURN YOU TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED BLOG.
Posted by: THIS is CNN at March 17, 2017 09:50 AM (8XRCm)

To be fair, it would be hard to tell if Juan Williams were alive after 2011.

(Too soon?)

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at March 17, 2017 09:51 AM (RD7QR)

63 CBD, the painting is beautiful.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 09:51 AM (zSVEm)

64 That view is an optional accessory, and not a requirement.
Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 09:50 AM (zSVEm)


Um . . . You mean, like, glasses? A clutch purse? Pocket square?

Posted by: Kindltot at March 17, 2017 09:52 AM (WQX/u)

65 Mmmmm I LOVE Carpaccio!

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 17, 2017 09:52 AM (Fb9aZ)

66 Angels are lightly discussed, as to appearance, in the Bible. The wing thing is pretty much a customary depiction.
Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 09:47 AM (zSVEm)

-----

Not Angels.

ALIENS.

Posted by: Ezekiel at March 17, 2017 09:53 AM (8XRCm)

67 I bet they had to change planes in Atlanta.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Swears Never Gonna Give You Up, Never Gonna Let You Down at March 17, 2017 09:54 AM (hLRSq)

68 quam pulchra es

huh. the Cure has a song, How Beautiful You Are, about a woman who lets her mask slip and disappoints the narrator, Robert Smith.

I recall he was brought up Catholic. I wonder if he was evoking this hymn.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 17, 2017 09:55 AM (Qb6F8)

69 67 I bet they had to change planes in Atlanta.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Swears Never Gonna Give You Up, Never Gonna Let You Down at March 17, 2017 09:54 AM (hLRSq)

=================

Cincinnati. They flew Comair.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 09:55 AM (ELUpj)

70 I have to say that the beings described in Ezekial are such I've never been able to wrap my head around them. I even sat and tried to sketch them out from the description and - just no, too hard.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 09:56 AM (zSVEm)

71 Posted by: Ezekiel at March 17, 2017 09:53 AM (8XRCm)

The wing idea could be an adoption of Mesopotamian imagery. Winged also appear in descriptions of the angels on the Ark of the Covenant and Tabernacle, and in descriptions of the Cherubim that guard the Throne of God.

Winged angels also appear in some of the earliest Christian art.

Posted by: Kris at March 17, 2017 09:56 AM (nwqNw)

72 Mary is trying to figure out which pronoun to use. obviously.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 17, 2017 09:56 AM (Qb6F8)

73 Totally OT but the painting immediately triggered my memory of advice I got about the female sexually sensitive parts of the body. I was told the back of the knee was one such place. That angel is putting it out there.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 17, 2017 09:57 AM (n3xLS)

74 I do wish he had arranged the angel's clothes a bit more carefully, but who am I to question the genius of one so talented.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 09:34 AM (sBOL1)

His angels were no angels....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 09:35 AM (rF0hx)


Yeah, I think it would be more accurate to say the clothing was arranged quite carefully, with absolute precision.

It's the androgynous nature of the angel I find disturbing.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2017 09:58 AM (TOk1P)

75 I hope they locked the doors to their minivan. The crime at rest stops is not to be believed.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 17, 2017 09:58 AM (TdMsT)

76 If you turn that score upside down it pretty closely resembles the guitar tablature for Doc Watson's version of Columbus Stockade Blues.


And even an angel couldn't keep up with Doc on that piece.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 09:59 AM (wPiJc)

77 Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 09:56 AM (zSVEm)

The Byzantines tried to depict these creatures. There is an interesting illuminated manuscript that shows the Ascension of Christ that uses imagery from Ezekiel. An then there is the Book of Revelations that drips with Old Testament references.

Posted by: Kris at March 17, 2017 09:59 AM (nwqNw)

78 the painting is beautiful.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 09:51 AM (zSVEm)

It is....although not as beautiful as a Vito's Deli Italian sub.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 09:59 AM (rF0hx)

79 Turkeys Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu has threatened to blow the mind of Europe by sending 15,000 refugees a month to EU territory, in an intensifying dispute with the bloc.

???

Because that is what Allies do?

LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 17, 2017 09:46 AM (KlI/a)





Jan Sobieski you have a call on line one. Time to let Suleyman the not so magnificent know his crap won't be tolerated but Europe (for the most part) is beyond help

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 17, 2017 10:00 AM (493sH)

80 >>It's the androgynous nature of the angel I find disturbing.

It's Tilda Swinton.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:00 AM (/tuJf)

81 This is the segment of the show where Sean Hannity pistol-whips Juan Williams for being a mealymouthed liberal contrarian.

Posted by: Fritz at March 17, 2017 10:00 AM (2Mnv1)

82 I did notice that Joseph is a dead ringer for Bob Hoskins, with long hair and all robey.
Bob Hoskins, God rest his soul.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:01 AM (zSVEm)

83 I've seen Catholic statues which have Joseph as closer to Mary's age so, yeah, the tradition isn't necessary for salvation.

there are hints that Joseph died before Jesus' baptism, so maybe that is where the tradition got the idea that Joseph was already elderly

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 17, 2017 10:01 AM (wzTK0)

84 That angel used to spend all its time pillaging and luting.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 10:02 AM (wPiJc)

85 It's Tilda Swinton.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:00 AM (/tuJf)

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One of my favorite scenes ever is when Keannu cracked her right in the mouth.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 10:02 AM (8XRCm)

86 The left probably believes Juan corroborated Hannity's story out of fear for his life.

Posted by: steevy at March 17, 2017 10:02 AM (r/0kC)

87 Tilda Swinton, now THERE'S an alien walking among us, in plain sight.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:02 AM (zSVEm)

88 Joseph has his feet together like a pajama boy. Be a man!!!

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 17, 2017 10:02 AM (n3xLS)

89 83 I've seen Catholic statues which have Joseph as closer to Mary's age so, yeah, the tradition isn't necessary for salvation.

there are hints that Joseph died before Jesus' baptism, so maybe that is where the tradition got the idea that Joseph was already elderly
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 17, 2017 10:01 AM (wzTK0)

It would also be an explanation for Jesus's siblings - Joseph was an older widower with children from his first marriage.

Posted by: josephistan at March 17, 2017 10:02 AM (7HtZB)

90
84 That angel used to spend all its time pillaging and luting.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 10:02 AM (wPiJc)







Don't fret, it's just Muldoon with the puns again.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2017 10:03 AM (XWkhW)

91 20 minutes and no one called the corgis!!!!

Ima gonna hafta change my nic to IrishWillow.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 17, 2017 10:03 AM (HiDrR)

92 >>One of my favorite scenes ever is when Keannu cracked her right in the mouth.

As angels go, she was a bitch. Had it coming.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:03 AM (/tuJf)

93 You want to meet for a Jameson's later on?

I would like to have a few pints of Guinness after work, but for certain reasons, I don't think it will happen.

Posted by: Classy Freddie Blassie, King of Men at March 17, 2017 10:03 AM (X6fMO)

94 Don't fret, it's just Muldoon with the puns again.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2017 10:03 AM (XWkhW)

He'll string us along forever....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 10:04 AM (rF0hx)

95 Joseph, I knew Bob Hoskins. Bob Hoskins was a good friend of mine. And you, sir, are no Bob Hoskins!

Posted by: Roger Rabbit at March 17, 2017 10:04 AM (wPiJc)

96 I wonder if angels have sax?

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 17, 2017 10:04 AM (n3xLS)

97
94 Don't fret, it's just Muldoon with the puns again.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2017 10:03 AM (XWkhW)

He'll string us along forever....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 10:04 AM (rF0hx)







Yeah, what a nut.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2017 10:04 AM (XWkhW)

98 josephistan, that seems to follow from Mary's eternal virginity.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 17, 2017 10:04 AM (wzTK0)

99 So I finally got around to watching Batman vs Superman and was all set to have it out on TJM's movie thread but of of course I'm going to be MIA again Saturday.

Which means my venting needs to go here.

Short version: What the HELL Warner Brothers/DC?

Long version: I finally understand all the complaints about this movie. There WAS a good movie buried in there at some point but it was butchered beyond all comprehension.

To get it out of the way, that 'Matha' scene the internet has been making fun of since it happened, yeah that was so bad everyone involved in that scene's approval and design had to be on drugs.

It MAYBE could have worked if we actually had a Batman backstory movie focused solely on his love of his mother and what she meant to him, but no. We get a scene of him walking to a tomb and looking at a grave. *sigh*

Which brings up one of the two biggest problems with the movie.

It tried to be THREE movies in one, solely in an attempt to catch up to the MCU. This was MoS 2, Batman vs. Superman, AND Justice League prologue.

Pick one WB, just pick one. Lay out your backstory and characters a la MCU phase 1. But no, we get a haphazard mess. Personally my favorite parts were the JL intro parts, but they were SO out of place.

The other major problem? No charisma what so damn ever. Almost every single MCU actor exudes their character and brings them to life in such a short period of time.

BvS characters? Bland, boring, brooding and miserable. Bleh.

The only character I felt was actually unique was one so many people seem to hate. But Lex Luthor is the only character who had a personality brought to life and who, if you were reading a script with no names, you could immediately identify his lines.

If Superman, Batman and WW all were vaporized I would have felt nothing. It's fascinating that this movie was so wrong, but maybe Marvel has me spoiled. (Even with their clunkers.)

Now to try Suicide Squad.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 17, 2017 10:04 AM (72PAC)

100 Damn. Off, wrestling sock.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 17, 2017 10:04 AM (X6fMO)

101 the really hot angels attended to Jesus.

Jimmy Stewart got the old Clarence that hadn't earned his wings.

"you look about like the kind of angel I'd get"

Posted by: illiniwek at March 17, 2017 10:05 AM (BrMft)

102
If a company's servers were "tapped" and that company used voice IP, wouldn't that provide the government with all calls and their contents? 
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at March 17, 2017 09:42 AM (s9VMf) 


Yes. Digital stream could be easily reconstructed into audio.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 17, 2017 10:05 AM (ZFUt7)

103 Always harping on Muldoon for his puns.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 17, 2017 10:05 AM (n3xLS)

104 Don't fret, it's just Muldoon with the puns again.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2017 10:03 AM (XWkhW)

He'll string us along forever....


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


*****


You're all a bunch of dirty stinkin' lyres.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 10:05 AM (wPiJc)

105 96 I wonder if angels have sax?
Posted by: Jack Sock

if they have anal sax, they are no angels

Posted by: Rick in SK at March 17, 2017 10:05 AM (FZYNt)

106 My flights to Egypt haven't looked anything like that.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 17, 2017 10:05 AM (B+qrE)

107 Ok, that movie review was far longer than intended.

Apologies. (But seriously, what the hell WB?)

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 17, 2017 10:05 AM (72PAC)

108 It's the androgynous nature of the angel I find disturbing.
---------------------------
It's Tilda Swinton.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:00 AM (/tuJf)


One of the sexiest ugly women ever captured on film.

That she has a career is quite astonishing, really.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2017 10:05 AM (TOk1P)

109 I will have to research the Byzantine depictions of Ezekials celestial beings. Fascinating. When I tried, the sketch pad combusted, right after the piece of charcoal I was using started dripping blood.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:06 AM (zSVEm)

110 Willowed from previous page:

Umm... Can't all of those judges have their salary reduced to $1 per year?

I'm willing to bet that none of those #FakeAmericans are willing to work for the same salary that President Trump does.

Posted by: An Observation at March 17, 2017 10:06 AM (Qac1m)

111 Don't fret, it's just Muldoon with the puns again.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 17, 2017 10:03 AM (XWkhW)

He'll string us along forever....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 10:04 AM (rF0hx)

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No he wont. Lyre.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 10:06 AM (8XRCm)

112 I shall rename thins painting "Charlie Daniels teaches angel to play the devil went down to Georgia."

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 17, 2017 10:07 AM (kTF2Z)

113 I wonder if angels have sax?

In rock and roll heaven.

Where they've got a hell of a band.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 17, 2017 10:07 AM (X6fMO)

114
Dammit.

Muldoon beat me to it.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 10:07 AM (8XRCm)

115 ...and boy were their arms tired when they got to Cairo International.

Posted by: Sallah at March 17, 2017 10:08 AM (kfiVh)

116 >>That she has a career is quite astonishing, really.

She is freakily androgynous but I think she is also one of those rare actresses who can actually act. I can't think of a role she has done where I didn't think she was really good.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:08 AM (/tuJf)

117 That's Juice Newton!

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 17, 2017 10:08 AM (n3xLS)

118 Got to get Gorsuch confirmed and get this shit straightened out.This is intolerable.

Posted by: steevy at March 17, 2017 10:08 AM (r/0kC)

119 In rock and roll heaven.

Where they've got a hell of a band.

BUM BUM PAAAAAA

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 17, 2017 10:09 AM (B+qrE)

120 Burn her she is a witch. She has black wings.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 17, 2017 10:09 AM (le7jz)

121 In rock and roll heaven.

Where they've got a hell of a band.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

where they play "Stairway to Here"

Posted by: Rick in SK at March 17, 2017 10:09 AM (FZYNt)

122 Oh yes, JackStraw, Swinton is good. Never have seen her not so.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:10 AM (zSVEm)

123 "now to try Suicide Squad"

aka, i just found a dead cricket in my lunch so now I want to order up the cockroach cake

don't punish yourself

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 17, 2017 10:10 AM (wzTK0)

124 She is freakily androgynous but I think she is also one of those rare actresses who can actually act.

She was really good in Constantine.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 17, 2017 10:10 AM (92ruB)

125 Butt, butt...

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 10:11 AM (Q5kE6)

126 >>>The first one to go punk
Posted by: Bruce<<<

Isn't an angel with a hipster pompadour a little more new wavy?

Posted by: Fritz at March 17, 2017 10:11 AM (2Mnv1)

127 where they play "Stairway to Here"


****

Heh!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 10:12 AM (wPiJc)

128 Steven King wrote a short story on the idea of a "rock and roll heaven" called "You Know They Got a Hell of a Band:"

http://tinyurl.com/mau5cu9

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 17, 2017 10:12 AM (X6fMO)

129 Hey, that's the sheet music for "I've Seen All Good People!"

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 17, 2017 10:12 AM (ul9CR)

130 She is freakily androgynous but I think she is also one of those rare actresses who can actually act. I can't think of a role she has done where I didn't think she was really good.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:08 AM (/tuJf)


I watched "Burn After Reading" recently, an apparently underappreciated Coen brothers gem.

Everyone in it is damn near perfect. As much as people hate Clooney, he's always been great in the Coen brothers films he's been in.

Everyone, honestly, a bunch of freakin' pros, just hamming it up and having fun.

Great movie.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2017 10:13 AM (TOk1P)

131 Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:06 AM (zSVEm)

Start off with the Rabbula Gospels of AD 586. The creatures are pretty basic--a mortal's depiction of an eternal concept made concrete. I'm always amazed at Ezekiel's (and John's) ability to find the words to describe what he sees before him.

Posted by: Kris at March 17, 2017 10:13 AM (nwqNw)

132 124 She is freakily androgynous but I think she is also one of those rare actresses who can actually act.

She was really good in Constantine.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 17, 2017 10:10 AM (92ruB)

Another really good Keanu Reeves movie.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 17, 2017 10:13 AM (n3xLS)

133 Pretty sure that's a girl Angel, she prolly learned her violin licks from Scarlet Rivera. They can time travel, you know.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:13 AM (zSVEm)

134 I can't think of a role she has done where I didn't think she was really good.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:08 AM (/tuJf)

Check her first movie.

Go ahead...I'll wait.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 10:14 AM (rF0hx)

135 Media Matters already calling the fact that Obama went to school with Overreaching Hawaiian Judge "Latest conservative conspiracy".

That's how you know that there is something to it.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 10:14 AM (Q5kE6)

136 Would you like some candy, little girl?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 10:14 AM (ZO497)

137 rip auntie agnes....what a joyful day in heaven it must be!

Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 17, 2017 10:15 AM (0O7c5)

138 Does this bedsheet make my butt look big?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 17, 2017 10:15 AM (ul9CR)

139 Thanks for the lead, Kris. I will do that.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:15 AM (zSVEm)

140 With all this wailing and gnashing over a measly $40B in cuts in a $3,400B budget, I beging to think the debt problem is insoluble and collapse remains inevitable.

Which I welcome.

Posted by: V the K at March 17, 2017 10:15 AM (O7MnT)

141 Behold the violins inherent in the system.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 10:15 AM (wPiJc)

142 >>Check her first movie.

>>Go ahead...I'll wait.

Well roll me in bread crumbs and call me dessert. I did not know that.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:16 AM (/tuJf)

143 Media Matters already calling the fact that Obama went to school with Overreaching Hawaiian Judge "Latest conservative conspiracy".

TRUMP HAD CHICKEN KIEV FOR DINNER LAST NIGHT!!!!!!
REENACTMENT TONIGHT ON MADDOW!!!!
WITH CHIMPANZEES AND STUFF!!!!
WE CAN DO THIS BECAUSE FIRST AMENDMENT!!!!!

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 17, 2017 10:16 AM (B+qrE)

144 Angel bears a strong resemblance to Paul McCartney...

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 10:17 AM (wPiJc)

145 ...and Wings.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 10:17 AM (wPiJc)

146 "Moonrise Kingdom" too. Which is a Wes Anderson film, and the ensemble cast is so amazing, in that Anderson gets everyone to overact, and then revolves a sweet, sweet story around two kids, with all these huge star actors and actresses insanely crashing from one scene to the next.

And then Swinton just blows in and mows everyone down with her presence.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2017 10:17 AM (TOk1P)

147 With California to provide taxpayer funds for the legal defense of illegals, http://tinyurl.com/k8z67z2

and at the same time give teachers an exemption from paying taxes, http://tinyurl.com/lgrq9ue

wouldn't that technically, under progressive rules, make the teachers racist?

Posted by: geoffb5 at March 17, 2017 10:17 AM (d3wbb)

148 ...if they have anal sax, they are no angels

Posted by: Rick in SK at March 17, 2017 10:05 AM (FZYNt)



From whence we gained the term: "Oh, blow it out'cher ass!"



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 17, 2017 10:17 AM (v5iqM)

149 Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 10:14 AM (Q5kE6)

He not only went to school with him; Obama visited with him before the ruling.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2017 10:17 AM (fDdVG)

150 149 Mh,nothing to see here.They probably talked about the grandkids and yoga...uh...

Posted by: steevy at March 17, 2017 10:18 AM (r/0kC)

151 With all this wailing and gnashing over a measly $40B in cuts in a
$3,400B budget, I beging to think the debt problem is insoluble
====

Oh the debt problem is completely soluble.

The embedded leech Congress and radical blackrobe thug problems on the other hand...

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 10:18 AM (Q5kE6)

152 >>Moonrise Kingdom" too. Which is a Wes Anderson film, and the ensemble cast is so amazing, in that Anderson gets everyone to overact, and then revolves a sweet, sweet story around two kids, with all these huge star actors and actresses insanely crashing from one scene to the next

Fun fact of the day. Moonrise Kingdom was largely filmed in an around my town.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:19 AM (/tuJf)

153 141
Behold the violins inherent in the system.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 10:15 AM (wPiJc)

You topped "luting".

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at March 17, 2017 10:19 AM (7N6ox)

154 Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Yeah , Fen. I was posting about it last night on the 'CNN makes up BS story about Hannity" thread.

The kids at 'The Donald' reddit have been on it for a couple of days.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 10:20 AM (Q5kE6)

155 I was just thinking about how if Clinton is the unofficial first black president, maybe someday the LGBT community will call Obama the unofficial first crossdressing bottom president.

Posted by: mx4 at March 17, 2017 10:20 AM (pkWGd)

156 I can't think of a role she has done where I didn't think she was really good.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:08 AM (/tuJf)

Check her first movie.

Go ahead...I'll wait.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 10:14 AM (rF0hx)


Well heck. Isn't that an interesting coinkydink.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2017 10:20 AM (TOk1P)

157 You're all a bunch of dirty stinkin' lyres.
----

Ugh - some of these puns are viol.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at March 17, 2017 10:21 AM (PXbkt)

158 Behold the violins inherent in the system.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 10:15 AM (wPiJc)

-------

Gawd.... youre such a bassoon.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 10:21 AM (8XRCm)

159 Umm... Can't all of those judges have their salary reduced to $1 per year? I'm willing to bet that none of those #FakeAmericans are willing to work for the same salary that President Trump does. Posted by: An Observation

that could just put the judge completely in someone's pocket ... instead of just volunteer anti-American radicals.

Someone like Scalia has hate piled on him, but any judge the uses his Trump hate as adequate cause for a TRO allowing radicals to penetrate our borders is made a big hero by media and constitutional scholars like Fake Indian Warren and Real Commie Obama.

Warren says Trump has lost both "cases" when neither is resolved at all, just blocked because their mission is open borders. The planned assault on America is broader than most can imagine (it seems)

Posted by: illiniwek at March 17, 2017 10:21 AM (BrMft)

160 Swinton apparently likes working with Brad Pitt and George Clooney.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 17, 2017 10:21 AM (n3xLS)

161 Well, my work here is done. Enjoy your day of outrage over fake news stories!

Endeavor to persevere.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 10:21 AM (wPiJc)

162 Angel bears a strong resemblance to Paul McCartney...

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 10:17 AM (wPiJc)



The BandHoly Family on the Run? But the angel does look like a young John Lennon

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 17, 2017 10:22 AM (493sH)

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 17, 2017 10:22 AM (493sH)

164 130
She is freakily androgynous but I think she is also one of those rare
actresses who can actually act. I can't think of a role she has done
where I didn't think she was really good.



Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:08 AM (/tuJf)





I watched "Burn After Reading" recently, an apparently underappreciated Coen brothers gem.



Everyone in it is damn near perfect. As much as people hate
Clooney, he's always been great in the Coen brothers films he's been in.



Everyone, honestly, a bunch of freakin' pros, just hamming it up and having fun.



Great movie.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2017 10:13 AM (TOk1P)

______________________________________________________
Agreed - and they are all great in the Coens' "Hail Caesar!"
I usually cannot stand Hollywood movies about Hollywood movies or movie making - however this film captures the spirit of the golden age of Hollywood and is at once an homage to (old good) Hollywood but is anti (the sliminess of modern) Hollywood AND anti communism - and the movie also succeeds in being very pro catholic at the same time! ( Brolin's performance as the devout catholic Hollywood "fixer" trapped in the den of sinful iniquity that is Hollywood is absolutely sublime). And the subtle satire of Ben Hur is spot on. Truly a great film - see it if you haven't yet horde!

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 17, 2017 10:22 AM (Fb9aZ)

165 Angel bears a strong resemblance to Paul McCartney...

Posted by: Muldoon at March 17, 2017 10:17 AM (wPiJc)

Let me try that the right way:



The BandHoly Family on the Run? But the angel does look like a young John Lennon

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 17, 2017 10:23 AM (493sH)

166 why don't you add details on these art works - date, medium, size and location?

this painting is owned by a private collection in rome, which also has other caravaggio's, raphael, velazquez, titian and others. it's interesting.

a link would be nice. it would save my brain and fingers from using up precious energy.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 17, 2017 10:23 AM (WTSFk)

167
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 17, 2017 10:22 AM (493sH)

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That counts. In ya go.

Posted by: The Barrel at March 17, 2017 10:24 AM (8XRCm)

168 ... in any case, thanks for the post.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 17, 2017 10:24 AM (WTSFk)

169 Swinton apparently likes working with Brad Pitt and George Clooney.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 17, 2017 10:21 AM (n3xLS)


Given their roles in the Ocean's movies, in "Burn After Reading," Pitt and Clooney have one scene together.

It doesn't go anything like the scenes they did in the Ocean's films.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2017 10:24 AM (TOk1P)

170 I will have to research the Byzantine depictions of
Ezekials celestial beings. Fascinating. When I tried, the sketch pad
combusted, right after the piece of charcoal I was using started
dripping blood.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:06 AM


That's a tough one. This is as close a description as St. Basil the Great attempted in one of the prayers of his Divine Liturgy:

*cuts, pastes, prays for deliverance from the Barrel*

"For You are praised by the angels, archangels, thrones, dominions,
principalities, authorities, powers, and the many eyed Cherubim. Round
about You stand the Seraphim, one with six wings and the other with six
wings; with two they cover their faces; with two they cover their feet;
with two they fly, crying out to one another with unceasing voices and
everresounding praises"

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2017 10:24 AM (p+Wdc)

171 You're all a bunch of dirty stinkin' lyres.

Ugh - some of these puns are viol.

Behold the violins inherent in the system.


Gawd.... youre such a bassoon.====

Bunch of treblemakers.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 10:24 AM (Q5kE6)

172 (... by the way, the musical score held by joseph is a known composition.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 17, 2017 10:25 AM (WTSFk)

173 @99 - I actually thought WW was the best part of the movie, but, full disclosure, I've been in love with WW my entire life.

That being said, I am looking forward to the WW movie this year. Apparently, advance screening audiences have loved it.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 17, 2017 10:25 AM (vg8iE)

174 Tilda Swinton had an arrangement with her husband who accepted her much younger boyfriend.

Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2017 10:25 AM (nNdYv)

175 172
(... by the way, the musical score held by joseph is a known composition.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 17, 2017 10:25 AM (WTSFk)

Devil went down to Georgia???

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at March 17, 2017 10:26 AM (7N6ox)

176 Bunch of treblemakers.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 10:24 AM (Q5kE6)

Nice!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 10:26 AM (rF0hx)

177 DID SOMEONE SAY YOGA WITH GRANDKIDS?!

Posted by: Bill, Joe, and Harry all at the same time at March 17, 2017 10:27 AM (kfiVh)

178 Clearly not enough sax.

Posted by: dartist at March 17, 2017 10:27 AM (6auC4)

179 For a take on this tale from the Pseudo-Matthew, look up any version of "The Cherry Tree Carol," or "When Joseph Was An Old Man." It either is or really is not a Christmas carol, but it's in Child's. From the 1400's.
Old Joe has a moment, there. Because you can marry the Virgin Mary and still get tired of her shit. "Let him bring you a cherry, who brought you with child."

There's a Clancy Brothers version very appropriate to this day, but, I'm a Pentangle fan, so, there.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 17, 2017 10:27 AM (H5rtT)

180 That counts. In ya go.

Posted by: The Barrel at March 17, 2017 10:24 AM (8XRCm)



Not a chance. You'll never get me coppah. It's the luck of the Irish

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 17, 2017 10:28 AM (493sH)

181 This painting is strange and off-putting.

It's borderline creepy.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 17, 2017 10:28 AM (1zARK)

182 157
You're all a bunch of dirty stinkin' lyres.

----



Ugh - some of these puns are viol.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at March 17, 2017 10:21 AM (PXbkt

quit harping

Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 17, 2017 10:28 AM (0O7c5)

183 Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2017 10:13 AM (TOk1P)

______________________________________________________
Agreed - and they are all great in the Coens' "Hail Caesar!"
I usually cannot stand Hollywood movies about Hollywood movies or movie making - however this film captures the spirit of the golden age of Hollywood and is at once an homage to (old good) Hollywood but is anti (the sliminess of modern) Hollywood AND anti communism - and the movie also succeeds in being very pro catholic at the same time! ( Brolin's performance as the devout catholic Hollywood "fixer" trapped in the den of sinful iniquity that is Hollywood is absolutely sublime). And the subtle satire of Ben Hur is spot on. Truly a great film - see it if you haven't yet horde!

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 17, 2017 10:22 AM (Fb9aZ)


I haven't seen it yet, but I'm really working on catching up with their output.

I think a case could be made that their films are subversively conservative. I haven't really thought it through too much, but there always seems to be an undercurrent of morality running through.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2017 10:28 AM (TOk1P)

184 Well done (as always), Muldoon!

Posted by: fly gal at March 17, 2017 10:29 AM (8TdcF)

185 Oh by the way, I ran into sven the other day, in the blog world.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:29 AM (zSVEm)

186 Whoa dat' bitch could paint.

Posted by: J Pollock at March 17, 2017 10:29 AM (1G2ms)

187 177 DID SOMEONE SAY YOGA WITH GRANDKIDS?!
Posted by: Bill, Joe, and Harry all at the same time at March 17, 2017 10:27 AM (kfiVh)

The local morning talk show host was asking the audience for titles for Chelsea's new book. The winning one was a caller, who sounded just like a little girl: "Never Sit on Grandpa's Lap."

Posted by: josephistan at March 17, 2017 10:29 AM (7HtZB)

188 DID SOMEONE SAY YOGA WITH GRANDKIDS?!
Posted by: Bill, Joe, and Harry all at the same time at March 17, 2017 10:27 AM (kfiVh)

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Hey COBS..... cant we at least ban-joe ??

Posted by: The Barrel at March 17, 2017 10:29 AM (8XRCm)

189 "South of Palestine, that was known as a fiddle."

I was cruising Hwy 19 and went through Palestine, Tx. siri pronounces it like they do in the middle east. It's 'Palisteen' in these parts. Named for the town in Illinois by the same name by an early settler. Nice place.

Posted by: DanMan at March 17, 2017 10:30 AM (XTiHL)

190 It's no Kandinsky.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 10:30 AM (Q5kE6)

191 >>Ok, that movie review was far longer than intended.


Apologies. (But seriously, what the hell WB?)


Yeah, it was a hot mess.


Affleck at Batman is leaden, heavy, ugh. Makes you realize how Bale could be so serious a Batman without being a total killjoy.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2017 10:30 AM (NOIQH)

192 Tilda Swinton had an arrangement with her husband who accepted her much younger boyfriend.

Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2017 10:25 AM (nNdYv)


Knowing nothing other than this one statement, I would be fairly certain that the husband is gay.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2017 10:30 AM (TOk1P)

193 But too 'busy'.

Posted by: J Pollock at March 17, 2017 10:31 AM (1G2ms)

194 Stroh violin - no resonator box as such, just an amplifying horn

https://youtu.be/liH-LrHZ9f0


Posted by: Kindltot at March 17, 2017 10:31 AM (WQX/u)

195 It's no Henry Darger.

Posted by: General Zod at March 17, 2017 10:32 AM (Bdeb0)

196 Publius Redux, I really enjoyed Hail Caesar! too.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 10:32 AM (sBOL1)

197 It's no Henry Darger.

-----


Who's no Jacob Kainen.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 10:33 AM (8XRCm)

198 I just realized it is a Saints Day today. Huh. I'm kinda Irish. Well, not Bog Irish, or Black Irish. Actually I'm a sort of Celt interloper, what was imported by the Brits from Scotland to vex the Irish, in one of their fits of English perfidy.

So--- Orangeman? Coonfusing.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:33 AM (zSVEm)

199 I have Varney on. This Katie Hopkins is a hoot. She says Trump is flamboyant. Merkel could kill both her parents in the night, eat their livers and in the morning she would show no emotion.

Posted by: Infidel at March 17, 2017 10:34 AM (uKRys)

200 *lights cig*

That was marvelous, Publius. Simply amazing.

Posted by: The Margins at March 17, 2017 10:34 AM (92ruB)

201 "When I was a little boy, my father proudly told me that the Irish built the jails in this country. Then they proceeded to fill them."--Ronnie at the Pub

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 17, 2017 10:35 AM (Ndje9)

202 Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:29 AM (zSVEm)

How's he doing?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2017 10:35 AM (sEDyY)

203 some of these puns are terrible, but i prefer the positive rather than piccolo response.

so, no comment.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 17, 2017 10:36 AM (WTSFk)

204 I usually receive emails from Amazon with suggestions for products based on my previous purchases. This morning I received two emails from them with anti-Trump news articles. I immediately changed my preferences to opt out of "news" type emails which I never had received before. Anyone else get these?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 17, 2017 10:36 AM (IqV8l)

205 It'd be an easy mornings work to stuff PDT, Roberts, Ryan and McConnell into the limo, ride up Rt 1 or Kenilworth and have a "talk" with the Greenbelt judge.

Posted by: DaveA at March 17, 2017 10:37 AM (FhXTo)

206 Yay! Its Irish Joke Day!

Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 10:37 AM (1G2ms)

207 197
It's no Henry Darger.


Who's no Jacob Kainen. Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 10:33 AM (8XRCm)

Who's no Beuys.

Posted by: General Zod at March 17, 2017 10:37 AM (Bdeb0)

208 Oh by the way, I ran into sven the other day, in the blog world.

Sven's a regular commenter on Insty.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 17, 2017 10:37 AM (X6fMO)

209 So two Irishman walked out of a bar.

Hey, i can happen!

Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 10:38 AM (1G2ms)

210 Yay! Its Irish Joke Day!
Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 10:37 AM (1G2ms)

-----

Whats the difference between and Irish Wedding and an Irish Wake???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 10:38 AM (8XRCm)

211 198 I just realized it is a Saints Day today. Huh. I'm kinda Irish. Well, not Bog Irish, or Black Irish. Actually I'm a sort of Celt interloper, what was imported by the Brits from Scotland to vex the Irish, in one of their fits of English perfidy.

So--- Orangeman? Coonfusing.
Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:33 AM (zSVEm)

Sounds like you're Scots-Irish/Ulster Scot (pick your nomenclature). Have a Bushmills and a Glenlivet and call it good.

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at March 17, 2017 10:38 AM (RD7QR)

212 " Umm... Can't all of those judges have their salary reduced to $1 per year?"

No. Article III, Section 1.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Swears Never Gonna Give You Up, Never Gonna Let You Down at March 17, 2017 10:38 AM (hLRSq)

213 Shit...'it' can happen. More beer before the next joke.

Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 10:39 AM (1G2ms)

214 I haven't seen it yet, but I'm really working on catching up with their output.



I think a case could be made that their films are subversively
conservative. I haven't really thought it through too much, but there
always seems to be an undercurrent of morality running through.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 17, 2017 10:28 AM (TOk1P)

_____________________________________________________
That conservative case can definitely be made for many of their films ( I have loved them since Raising Arizona and Millers Crossing, btw) - but in this instance there is nothing subversive or subtle about the conservative message in Hail Caesar - as Blackadder said "[It's] about as subtle as a rhinoceros horn up the backside."
Oh and thanks Bluebell - it is my new favorite (and also that of the two Redux children)

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 17, 2017 10:39 AM (Fb9aZ)

215 By this Motive standard, the Court should have prohibited Obama from his Pre-Emptive Surrenders to Iran and Cuba due to his family background of Islam and Communism.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 17, 2017 10:39 AM (Ndje9)

216 204 I usually receive emails from Amazon with suggestions for products based on my previous purchases. This morning I received two emails from them with anti-Trump news articles. I immediately changed my preferences to opt out of "news" type emails which I never had received before. Anyone else get these?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 17, 2017 10:36 AM (IqV8l)

I said goodbye to Amazon where they led the charge to have Trump's first immigration E O blocked. Fuck that guy in particular.

Posted by: josephistan at March 17, 2017 10:39 AM (7HtZB)

217 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2017 10:35 AM (sEDyY)

Hey Polliwog. Said he is fine, just taking a long break from the joint. Like I did for a while. He sounds real busy with material world stuff.
Was good to touch base with him. Sven's a good guy, in my book.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:40 AM (zSVEm)

218
Whats the difference between and Irish Wedding and an Irish Wake???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 10:38 AM (8XRCm)

Come on!

Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 10:40 AM (1G2ms)

219 Today I fly to Israel, to the Negev and end the week in Jordan. Very excited

Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2017 10:40 AM (dZiSn)

220 Bunch of treblemakers.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 10:24 AM (Q5kE6)

Nice!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 10:26 AM (rF0hx)


What did you bass that opinion on?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 17, 2017 10:41 AM (gwPgz)

221 Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 10:40 AM (1G2ms)

One less drunk.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Swears Never Gonna Give You Up, Never Gonna Let You Down at March 17, 2017 10:41 AM (hLRSq)

222 Who doesn't love half-naked angels?

Posted by: JAS at March 17, 2017 10:41 AM (Kresa)

223 I shall rename thins painting "Charlie Daniels teaches angel to play the devil went down to Georgia."

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 17, 2017 10:07 AM (kTF2Z)

Can't believe it took 100+ posts for that to show up.

Posted by: BignJames at March 17, 2017 10:41 AM (x9c8r)

224 *lies back, catches breath*

Twice in one thread !!! Publius ... you are insatiable.

Posted by: The Margins at March 17, 2017 10:42 AM (92ruB)

225 Has Stuart Varney always been an a hole?

Posted by: Under Fire at March 17, 2017 10:42 AM (ymRuQ)

226 Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:40 AM (zSVEm)

Good to know. Glad he's okay. I can understand the need for a mental health break. The Horde is awesome and amazing, but can get pretty intense.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2017 10:42 AM (sEDyY)

227 210
Yay! Its Irish Joke Day!

Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 10:37 AM (1G2ms)



-----



Whats the difference between and Irish Wedding and an Irish Wake???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 10:38 AM (8XRCm)

_____________________________________________
Wait - this is a trick question isn't it -?
And now for your St Pat's viewing pleasure:Irish Yoga:http://www.funnyjunk.com/Irish+yoga/funny-pictures/4848225/

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 17, 2017 10:43 AM (Fb9aZ)

228 but, I'm a Pentangle fan, so, there.
Posted by: Stringer Davis
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Now, there's a name I haven't heard in decades.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 10:43 AM (ZO497)

229 Actually I'm a sort of Celt interloper, what was
imported by the Brits from Scotland to vex the Irish, in one of their
fits of English perfidy.



So--- Orangeman? Coonfusing.
Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:33 AM (zSVEm)


When Elizabeth was queen, cross border raiding by the various clans and the March lords was totally OK, mostly, as a sort of land based letter of Marque and Reprisal that kept the cost of garrisoning the border down.

When James owned both sides of the border, he told everyone to cool it. When they didn't a lot of them were deported to Northern Ireland and to the colonies.

In the Colonies, they were greeted as braw fighters and encouraged to settle Westward to counter the Indians who were raiding settlements. Later some of the locals were to comment that they might have been better off with the Indians

Posted by: Kindltot at March 17, 2017 10:43 AM (WQX/u)

230 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 17, 2017 10:37 AM (X6fMO)

That's where I ran into him, MP4. I dip my toe in their pool once in a while, Disqus notwithstanding.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:43 AM (zSVEm)

231 Posted by: ThunderB at March 17, 2017 10:40 AM (dZiSn)

Have a great time. Please let us know your observations when you get back.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2017 10:44 AM (sEDyY)

232 Only oboes drink green beer.

Posted by: Fritz at March 17, 2017 10:44 AM (2Mnv1)

233  *lies back, catches breath* Twice in one thread !!! Publius ... you are insatiable.
Posted by: The Margins


You could dial back your screen magnification, you know. Get some reading glasses at the dollar store.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 17, 2017 10:44 AM (ZFUt7)

234 Too bad Mary and Joseph didn't have high-speed rail when they went to Egypt.

Posted by: Soona at March 17, 2017 10:44 AM (LySqY)

235 Yay! Its Irish Joke Day!

Posted by: Some Ginzo
-------------

Two Irishmen walk out of a bar


That's it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 10:45 AM (ZO497)

236 Whats the difference between and Irish Wedding and an Irish Wake???

Whether the guest of honor is stiff before or after the festivities.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 17, 2017 10:45 AM (WQX/u)

237 >>>>With all this wailing and gnashing over a measly $40B in cuts in a
$3,400B budget, I beging to think the debt problem is insoluble and
collapse remains inevitable.



Which I welcome.
.
.
.There is no intention of every paying the National Debt off by either Party. At this point it is physically impossible, and the Fed is making sure we have a crisis within the next few years by raising interest rates and Trump will get the blame.

I used to care about the debt but after more than a few years of reading various articles and journals I have come to the conclusion that we are heading for a huge crash no matter what we do.

When the bills come due for over promising Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid starting in the next few years we are most likely going to see an economic set back the likes of which has not been seen in this Country before.

We have over $120 Trillion in unfunded mandatory spending coming due over the next 50 years and that will just keep growing no matter what Trump does with the budget. Social Security benefits will have to be actually cut in the very near future as we are now paying out more in benefits than we are taking in. By 2030 or so even the lie of the lock box will be out of money and that will happen most likely sooner.

What is coming will make the crash of 1929 look like a slight adjustment.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 17, 2017 10:45 AM (le7jz)

238 Islam and Communism.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 17, 2017 10:39 AM (Ndje9)


Nah, both are enshrined in the First and Fifth Amendments!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 17, 2017 10:46 AM (gwPgz)

239 Too bad Mary and Joseph didn't have high-speed rail when they went to Egypt.
Posted by: Soona
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Or Travelocity, to book a hotel.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 10:46 AM (ZO497)

240 there are hints that Joseph died before Jesus' baptism, so maybe that is where the tradition got the idea that Joseph was already elderly
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo

He had a heart attack from shoveling snow.

Posted by: mpfs, Pirate Wench at March 17, 2017 10:47 AM (JSC3V)

241
What is coming will make the crash of 1929 look like a slight adjustment.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman


Raise the debt ceiling to infinity...and beyond!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 17, 2017 10:48 AM (IqV8l)

242 All I ever hear is that Mattis and Tillerson and the other guy are hiring right out of the Obama or Bush II administration. It's perplexing.
Posted by: bjkubbs at March 17, 2017 09:44 AM (n/9Sj

Because there are thousands of qualified conservatives in the private sector clamoring to work for the government, supervising non fireable career govt. workers who hate conservatives.

Posted by: Jen at March 17, 2017 10:48 AM (SfvBj)

243 Redhead's got nice feet.

Posted by: Heel and Arch Fanciers, Inc. at March 17, 2017 10:49 AM (ND+aa)

244 He had a heart attack from shoveling snow.
Posted by: mpfs
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And no Obamacare. Which is pretty much the same as being doomed to die in the street.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 10:49 AM (ZO497)

245 The last thing I want to read this morning, from a usual suspect, Peggy Noonan:

Reach Across the Aisle, Mr. President

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 17, 2017 10:49 AM (Nwg0u)

246 Happy Day of the insufferable Ginger People!

Posted by: Garrett at March 17, 2017 10:49 AM (4/95V)

247 224
*lies back, catches breath*



Twice in one thread !!! Publius ... you are insatiable.

Posted by: The Margins at March 17, 2017 10:42 AM (92ruB)
____________________________________________________Was that me? Oh well. Off to the barrel. At least I can use the new suggestion box and sample Ace's Irish whiskey collection.

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 17, 2017 10:49 AM (Fb9aZ)

248 OK, we'll take the ni@@gers and the chinks, but not the Irish!

Posted by: JAS at March 17, 2017 10:49 AM (Kresa)

249 Whats the difference between and Irish Wedding and an Irish Wake???


A: One less Drunk

Posted by: Erin go Brah at March 17, 2017 10:49 AM (GuAuv)

250 I was close. 'One less guy at the bar.'

My first Irish wake was the father of a classmate. I was in like 6th grade. After attending the 7 day Bronx wake of my Italian grandfather i was kinda surprised. My dad said he loved Irish wakes after we left...much later. Hey, you know what, They didn't didn't have to keep old widows in black from throwing themselves in the coffin. Good times.

Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 10:50 AM (1G2ms)

251 that me? Oh well. Off to the barrel. At least I can use the new suggestion box and sample Ace's Irish whiskey collection.


Posted by: Publius Redux

That's not whiskey!!!!

Posted by: Bruce at March 17, 2017 10:50 AM (8ikIW)

252 Or Travelocity, to book a hotel.

There are better options ...

Posted by: William Shatner at March 17, 2017 10:50 AM (92ruB)

253 So if End Times style economic troubles are coming, should I hold on to all the silver I bought when Obama seized power, buy more now, or just keep hoarding 9mm rounds?

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:50 AM (zSVEm)

254 >>> At least I can use the new suggestion box and sample Ace's Irish whiskey collection.<<<

That's not a single malt you're sipping on.

Posted by: Fritz at March 17, 2017 10:51 AM (2Mnv1)

255 wtf?

Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 17, 2017 10:51 AM (0O7c5)

256
Erin go bra-less would be better.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 10:51 AM (8XRCm)

257 Has any elected Republican, besides PT, come out and repudiated these terrorist fed judges?

Posted by: Under Fire at March 17, 2017 10:51 AM (ymRuQ)

258 An Irish guy walks into a bar. The bartender says ' sorry we're all out of liquor '

The Irish guy says 'how can that be you're bar? '

The bartender replies ' Don't blame me, blame the other Irish guy that was in here just before you'

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 17, 2017 10:51 AM (n3xLS)

259 According to the Anne Rice novel, "The Road to Cana", Joseph was almost dead when the whole family went to be baptized by John the Baptist.

He died shortly thereafter.

Posted by: JAS at March 17, 2017 10:51 AM (Kresa)

260 That's not whiskey!!!!


Posted by: Bruce at March 17, 2017 10:50 AM (8ikIW)
_________________________________________
Aaaagh! What have I done!?!

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 17, 2017 10:51 AM (Fb9aZ)

261 I beging to think the debt problem is insoluble and
collapse remains inevitable.


Same as Insty said re: AGW - I'll take it seriously when they do.
At least the debt is a real thing.

Posted by: DaveA at March 17, 2017 10:51 AM (FhXTo)

262 243 Redhead's got nice feet.
Posted by: Heel and Arch Fanciers, Inc. at March 17, 2017 10:49 AM (ND+aa)

Why, thank you!

Posted by: mpfs, Pirate Wench at March 17, 2017 10:53 AM (JSC3V)

263
Nekkid angels playing fiddles.


Heaven's going to be interesting.


Sort of a cross between Playboy and Hee-Haw.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 17, 2017 10:54 AM (9q7Dl)

264 Reach Across the Aisle, Mr. President

Sure, Pegs. And I promise I won't do that thing in your mouth.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 17, 2017 10:54 AM (X6fMO)

265 What is coming will make the crash of 1929 look like a slight adjustment.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

===



"But sir, SIR! What about Meals on Wheels ? What about breakfast for underprivileged school children? "

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 10:54 AM (Q5kE6)

266 243 Redhead's got nice feet.
I noticed that too.

Posted by: Dick Morris at March 17, 2017 10:54 AM (ymRuQ)

267 Erin Grey goes braless?

Brb

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 17, 2017 10:55 AM (kTF2Z)

268 A lovely painting. Apparently Caravaggio thinks gingers are heavenly. While I'm no bible scholar, I don't recall Joseph being described as an old man. I've always pictured him as a 20-something year old carpenter. So I am having "thats not accurate" interfering with just enjoying this painting.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 17, 2017 10:55 AM (Jen0I)

269 Come to think of it, both ladies are redheads.

My "nice feet" comment stands.

Posted by: Heel and Arch Fanciers, Inc. at March 17, 2017 10:55 AM (ND+aa)

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 17, 2017 10:55 AM (Fb9aZ)

271 MPFS!!!!!! *HUGS*

Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 17, 2017 10:57 AM (0O7c5)

272 Reach Across the Aisle, Mr. President


8 years of GFY from the Democrats.

But, now we have to let them enact a minimum of 50% of what they want.

No. Thank. You. Peg.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 17, 2017 10:57 AM (9q7Dl)

273 Okay, I'll say it. WHY is the Great Economic Debacle coming? ( I have no pride.) Well, actually, that's pretty much not true, just none about econ.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 10:57 AM (zSVEm)

274 "But sir, SIR! What about Meals on Wheels ? What about breakfast for underprivileged school children? "

There'll be a judge somewhere declaring the shit must be funded regardless ... even if there's no money left.

If we get a do-over ... I'm against even having a judiciary at the Federal level.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 17, 2017 10:57 AM (92ruB)

275 True story. A friend of mine died in a kayaking incident. It's a terrible, terirble story, but putting that aside, there was only a funeral and family graveside service.

His friends were not at all content with that, and we gathered around the trunk of a car in the parking lot of the funeral home and broke out the Irish Whiskey, sharing as many toasts as we thought would allow us to drive home.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 10:59 AM (ZO497)

276 Posted by: PaleRider at March 17, 2017 10:55 AM (Jen0I)

The Bible doesn't say how old Joseph was. He was dead by the time of the crucifixion at the very least, otherwise Jesus wouldn't have told John to look after Mary, so the assumption has often been that he was older. Men waiting until they were established in their careers and then marrying much younger wives wasn't unusual either.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2017 10:59 AM (sEDyY)

277 Media Matters already calling the fact that Obama went to school with Overreaching Hawaiian Judge "Latest conservative conspiracy".

That's how you know that there is something to it.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 10:14 AM (Q5kE6)

It's long past time to do some dirt-digging on these leftist judges. Find some vice they have, and get them on related criminal charges.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2017 11:00 AM (WDdjT)

278 Anyone notice my judicial looking hair?

Posted by: CJ John Roberts at March 17, 2017 11:00 AM (ymRuQ)

279 Remember that President Obama presented his hologram across the nation to calm the people about the stock market crash of 2019.

Posted by: Joe Biden's Great Grandson at 2060 VP debate at March 17, 2017 11:00 AM (n3xLS)

280 Haven't seen AtC here this morning so I guess the spiders pulled off the dawn attack.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 17, 2017 11:01 AM (kTF2Z)

281 Men waiting until they were established in their careers and then marrying much younger wives wasn't unusual either.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2017 10:59 AM (sEDyY)

So I still have a chance.

Posted by: josephistan at March 17, 2017 11:01 AM (7HtZB)

282 So I still have a chance.
Posted by: josephistan

not with me

Posted by: Zombie Anna Nicole Smith at March 17, 2017 11:02 AM (FZYNt)

283 Posted by: josephistan at March 17, 2017 11:01 AM (7HtZB)

My brother-in-law is 45 and getting married (for the first time) sometime soon here. I think the lady is in her 30's but didn't ask.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2017 11:04 AM (sEDyY)

284 99 So I finally got around to watching Batman vs Superman and was all set to have it out on TJM's movie thread but of of course I'm going to be MIA again Saturday.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 17, 2017 10:04 AM (72PAC)

====================

Quick question:

Did you watch the theatrical version or the Ultimate Cut?

I've only ever seen the Ultimate Cut, and, while the movie is pretty obviously flawed, I think it largely overcomes those flaws in the longer version.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 11:04 AM (ELUpj)

285 I saw the post yesterday about men who look like old lesbians, right before I went to this site:

http://www.wcupa.edu/oca/wcuLive/speakerSeries.aspx

Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2017 11:04 AM (nNdYv)

286 I don't recall Joseph being described as an old man. I've always pictured him as a 20-something year old carpenter. So I am having "thats not accurate" interfering with just enjoying this painting.
Posted by: PaleRider at March 17, 2017 10:55 AM (Jen0I)

It may not have anything to do with historical accuracy, but in Italy, especially Southern Italy, it's part of the popular lore/folk culture. There are even children's nursery rhymes and folk songs describing St Joseph as an old man. Even his statues in Italian churches depict him as a fairly old gent.


So much beauty and human emotion in one painting! Thanks, CBD!

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at March 17, 2017 11:04 AM (oQQwD)

287 Interesting story of birth was John the Baptist. His mother Elizabeth was a relative of Mary and a old lady when she became pregnant.

Posted by: Joe Biden's Great Grandson at 2060 VP debate at March 17, 2017 11:04 AM (n3xLS)

288 The Chicken Lady showed up this morning, and dropped off 7 1/2 dozen eggs.

Woooo!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 17, 2017 11:04 AM (bQLQX)

289 Haven't seen AtC here this morning so I guess the spiders pulled off the dawn attack.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 17, 2017 11:01 AM


Either that or she's still compiling the body count.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2017 11:05 AM (p+Wdc)

290 I would hazard that people back in Biblish times often checked out young. So Joseph could have been any age, perhaps.
I am studying and thinking about Scripture now sort of out of the box of tradition and dogma, rereading the New Testament for a Lenten discipline.

Posted by: kraken at March 17, 2017 11:05 AM (zSVEm)

291 Reach Across the Aisle, Mr. President

-
Maybe to slap a Donk.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 17, 2017 11:06 AM (Nwg0u)

292 152
Fun fact of the day. Moonrise Kingdom was largely filmed in an around my town.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:19 AM (/tuJf)

=================

I'm adding that to the IMDB trivia section:

"Filmed in and around JackStraw's, a commenter of some import at the smart military blog Ace of Spades, town."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 11:06 AM (ELUpj)

293 Paddy had been drinking at his local Dublin pub all day and most of the night celebrating St Patrick's Day. Mick, the bartender says, 'You'll not be drinking anymore tonight, Paddy'. Paddy replies, 'OK Mick, I'll be on my way then'. Paddy spins around on his stool and steps off. He falls flat on his face. 'Damn' he says and pulls himself up by the stool and dusts himself off. He takes a step towards the door and falls flat on his face.

'Damn, 'Damn !'

He looks to the doorway and thinks to himself that if he can just get to the door and some fresh air he'll be fine. He belly crawls to the door and shimmies up to the door frame. He sticks his head outside and takes a deep breath of fresh air, feels much better and takes a step out onto the sidewalk and falls flat on his face.

'By'Jeebers.... I'm a little crocked,' he says.

He can see his house just a few doors down, and crawls to the door, hauls himself up the door frame, opens the door and shimmies inside. He takes a look up the stairs and says 'No damn' way'. He crawls up the stairs to his bedroom door and says 'I can make it to the bed'. He takes a step into the room and falls flat on his face He says ' Damn it ' and falls into bed.

The next morning, his wife, Jess, comes into the room carrying a cup of coffee and says, 'Get up Paddy. Did you have a bit to drink last night ?'

Paddy says, 'I did, Jess. I was really crocked But how'd you know?'

'Mick phoned . . . you left your wheelchair at the pub.'

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 17, 2017 11:06 AM (LTHVh)

294 283 Posted by: josephistan at March 17, 2017 11:01 AM (7HtZB)

My brother-in-law is 45 and getting married (for the first time) sometime soon here. I think the lady is in her 30's but didn't ask.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2017 11:04 AM (sEDyY)

I was 41. Married a 27 year old. Her Dad teased me about it. I said 'she's very mature, and I'm not so perfect match.' Still with me after 24 years, but I keep her toasted so there that.

Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 11:07 AM (1G2ms)

295 But, now we have to let them enact a minimum of 50% of what they want.

No. Thank. You. Peg.

Posted by: naturalfake
------------

50%? No, that's not how it works.

Illustrative story:

Billy and Bobby, while walking down the street, find $1.00. Billy wants it all, Bobby wants to split it 50/50.

They're squabbling over it when Liberal adult happens along. "Boys, boys!" She says, "you must learn to compromise."

"Now Billy, you want 100%, and Bobby, you want 50%, so you should compromise. Billy, you take 75 cents , and Bobby, you take 25 cents. See? Compromise!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 11:07 AM (ZO497)

296 SEAN HANNITY SHOT AND KILLED JUAN WILLIAMS

And yet Bob Beckel lives.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 17, 2017 11:07 AM (3J/LN)

297 Reach Across the Aisle, Mr. President

-----------

They haven't learned a thing, have they?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 17, 2017 11:08 AM (kTF2Z)

298 Okay, I'll say it. WHY is the Great Economic Debacle coming? ( I have no pride.) Well, actually, that's pretty much not true, just none about econ.

The main issue (as I see it) is mounting debt with no realistic plan to address it or grow our way out of it. Interest payments on that debt are accelerating in volume and will require loads of taxes to service.

Another point is the sheer volume of transfer payments happening. These things promote idleness, and foster a sense of entitlement over not having to work, or to do the bare minimum required. Incentives to do better are squashed.

Lastly, our arsenal of tools that can mitigate recessions (adjusting the money supply, etc) are limited in scope. Over the past ten years (and beyond, if you're more of a gold bug than I am) have shown their limitations. For a standard recession, a money supply adjustment is helpful...but that's after a bunch of assumptions that in the here and now aren't valid. Assumptions that unemployed people WANT to work, WANT to do better, and WANT to strive have become invalidated in the face of a large and robust welfare state.

So I have no optimism for the future economy. It won't be overnight, but the long slow slide continues, and there's no good way out of it.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 17, 2017 11:08 AM (PFy0L)

299 I was 41. Married a 27 year old. Her Dad teased
me about it. I said 'she's very mature, and I'm not so perfect match.'
Still with me after 24 years, but I keep her toasted so there that.

Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 11:07 AM


So you're saying there's hope for some of us, then?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2017 11:09 AM (p+Wdc)

300 Reach Across the Aisle, Mr. President


Noonan is on the other side.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 17, 2017 11:09 AM (LTHVh)

301 286 I don't recall Joseph being described as an old man. I've always pictured him as a 20-something year old carpenter. So I am having "thats not accurate" interfering with just enjoying this painting.
Posted by: PaleRider at March 17, 2017 10:55 AM (Jen0I)

*
*
Well, if Joseph was 20-25, say, when Jesus was born, he'd have been 53-58 at the time of the Crucifixion. In those days, that would have qualified him as an Elder for sure. People married and died younger then.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 17, 2017 11:09 AM (ND+aa)

302 From a not particularly reputable alt source:

"A federal District Court judge in Maryland is considering whether he should order President Donald Trump to double the annual inflow of refugees up to 100,000 per year."

How can this even be legal?

Posted by: shibumi at March 17, 2017 11:09 AM (FkAXz)

303 So I still have a chance.
Posted by: josephistan

not with me

Posted by: Zombie Anna Nicole Smith at March 17, 2017 11:02 AM (FZYNt)


Dead girls never say no.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 17, 2017 11:10 AM (X6fMO)

304 >>"But sir, SIR! What about Meals on Wheels ? What about breakfast for underprivileged school children..."



"....whom we continue to enthusiastically import thanks to Obama and federal judges usurping Trump's presidential powers to stop them from coming in?"


One current Drudge headline is "25% of public school kids are from immigrant household."

Do we know how many of these are legal vs. illegal immigrants?
Regardless, think of the savings of not providing 2-3 meals a day to ~25% or more (considering it's not 100% immigrant/lots of citizens' kids partake, too) of public school kids? One assumes that a lot of these families are already enrolled in SNAP and/or receiving other private charity food subsidies...

Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2017 11:10 AM (NOIQH)

305 Dead girls never say no.

They still give you the cold shoulder.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 17, 2017 11:10 AM (LTHVh)

306 I would hazard that people back in Biblish times often checked out young. So Joseph could have been any age, perhaps.
----------

Psalm 90:10

The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 11:11 AM (NBHj5)

307 Find some vice they have, and get them on related criminal charges.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2017 11:00 AM (WDdjT)


And it's not like we don't think the judges have vices aplenty, but the Stupid Party would rather keep their title and remain defeated than engage in any sort of retaliation, even genteel retaliation.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 17, 2017 11:11 AM (gwPgz)

308 305 Dead girls never say no.

They still give you the cold shoulder.

*
*
Tough to dance with, too. You have to take 'em for a brisk drag around the dance floor.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 17, 2017 11:12 AM (ND+aa)

309 Happy Amateur Drinking Day.

Posted by: buzzion at March 17, 2017 11:12 AM (z/Ubi)

310 303
Dead girls never say no.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 17, 2017 11:10 AM (X6fMO)

================

"Neither do girls in comas."
-Buck

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 11:12 AM (ELUpj)

311 Butt, butt...
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 10:11 AM


You always have hope here.

Posted by: Ms. Solo at March 17, 2017 11:14 AM (tBswe)

312 SEAN HANNITY SHOT AND KILLED JUAN WILLIAMS

And yet Bob Beckel lives.
Posted by: Ian
------------

This once again raises the question of why Mark Chapman was standing there with a gun in his hand, and yet Yoko is still alive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 11:15 AM (NBHj5)

313 From a not particularly reputable alt source:

"A federal District Court judge in Maryland is considering whether he should order President Donald Trump to double the annual inflow of refugees up to 100,000 per year."

How can this even be legal?



Posted by: shibumi at March 17, 2017 11:09 AM (FkAXz)


**sighs in resignation**

The law is whatever a Democrat says it is.

No more, no less.

Were that not true, Obama and Hillary would at this moment be locked in PITMA prison and that particular judge would be praying to Gaia that the good people of Maryland don't decide he should be set up on a date with Madame Guillotine.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 17, 2017 11:15 AM (X6fMO)

314 >>"Neither do girls in comas."

-Buck


"I know, right?"
- Benigno Martin

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287467/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2017 11:15 AM (NOIQH)

315 Well, if Joseph was 20-25, say, when Jesus was born, he'd have been 53-58 at the time of the Crucifixion. In those days, that would have qualified him as an Elder for sure. People married and died younger then.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 17, 2017 11:09 AM (ND+aa)

Not really. People forget that the "average age" is just that - a mathematical average. The low average age in earlier generations comes from the early years, not so much the later years. Many people died in the first few years of life - childhood diseases & such - which makes that average age so much lower than the average of today. Granted, medical advances means people are living longer today than in the past, but someone in their 50s wasn't elderly.

Posted by: josephistan at March 17, 2017 11:16 AM (7HtZB)

316 You all see where obama is in French Polynesian for a month sans Family?

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 17, 2017 11:16 AM (O2RFr)

317 Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at March 17, 2017 11:08 AM (PFy0L)

I would add that the Fed has yet to even to begin to unwind its massive, nearly $5 trillion balance sheet. They liked to claim that they could do that with no effect on the economy but only the dimmest among us would even entertain such a preposterous idea. The pain that will come with the unwinding will be far worse than any minor benefits we got in accumulating that balance sheet.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 17, 2017 11:16 AM (zc3Db)

318 >>You all see where obama is in French Polynesian for a month sans Family?


More important: Is Valerie Jarrett with him?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2017 11:17 AM (NOIQH)

319 You all see where obama is in French Polynesian for a month sans Family?

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 17, 2017 11:16 AM


What, not Thailand?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2017 11:17 AM (p+Wdc)

320 You all see where obama is in French Polynesian for a month sans Family?
Posted by: It's Me donna at March 17, 2017 11:16 AM (O2RFr)

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Yeah.... read that.

I'd ditch Lt. Whorf too, tho.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:17 AM (8XRCm)

321 316 You all see where obama is in French Polynesian for a month sans Family?
Posted by: It's Me donna at March 17, 2017 11:16 AM (O2RFr)

Kids are finally going back to the talent agency?

Posted by: josephistan at March 17, 2017 11:17 AM (7HtZB)

322 299 I was 41. Married a 27 year old. Her Dad teased
me about it. I said 'she's very mature, and I'm not so perfect match.'
Still with me after 24 years, but I keep her toasted so there that.

Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 11:07 AM

So you're saying there's hope for some of us, then?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2017 11:09 AM (p+Wdc)


Well I can certainly be an asshole, and not the sharpest knife in the drawer and well looks aren't the thing and yet she is smart and sweet and hot so yeah believe me for everyone here there is. one thing maybe. I fell hard and went from zero to engaged in 6 weeks. And I was in Tampa and she in MN. So like 3 real dates. She must have been weak and I was quick to close. .

Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 11:18 AM (1G2ms)

323 In addition to The New Testament, there is/was a lot of "oral tradition" in the Catholic Church. e.g. the bodily assumption of Mary into heaven. Joseph had children from an earlier wife. "James, the brother of Jesus" was one of them.

Posted by: JAS at March 17, 2017 11:18 AM (Kresa)

324 Those cocaine-fueled gay orgies in tropical areas with underage boys won't attend themselves, you know.

Posted by: Barry at March 17, 2017 11:19 AM (vg8iE)

325 Haven't seen AtC here this morning so I guess the spiders pulled off the dawn attack.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 17, 2017 11:01 AM
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Either that or she's still compiling the body count.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2017 11:05 AM


Or she could have taken refuge in the Pit of Balls, and gotten lost again.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 17, 2017 11:19 AM (tBswe)

326 sighs in resignation**

The law is whatever a Democrat says it is.


-
Overheard outside the judges' chambers while they are deliberating:

"Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg, and howlet's wing,--
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 17, 2017 11:19 AM (Nwg0u)

327
Totally off thread.... but .....


I have a terrible Creed earworm and cannot get out of my head.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:20 AM (8XRCm)

328 This once again raises the question of why Mark Chapman was standing there with a gun in his hand, and yet Yoko is still alive.

It's de facto proof that he was insane.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 17, 2017 11:21 AM (3J/LN)

329 I have a terrible Creed earworm and cannot get out of my head.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:20 AM (8XRCm)

You should welcome it with arms wide open.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2017 11:21 AM (rF0hx)

330 You should welcome it with arms wide open.

----


fucker

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:21 AM (8XRCm)

331 I have a terrible Creed earworm and cannot get out of my head.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:20 AM (8XRCm)


She ran calling "Wiiiiiiiiiiillllllldddfiiiiiirrreeee. . ."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 17, 2017 11:21 AM (X6fMO)

332 One current Drudge headline is "25% of public school kids are from immigrant household."

Do we know how many of these are legal vs. illegal immigrants?


It's much more complex than that thanks to birthright citizenship and the fact that we've spent the last 25 years letting illegals (border-crossers and visa-overstays) stay long enough to have kids.

So you have illegal parents with some potential mix of legal and illegal kids.

In California the total K12 immigrant-family mix was listed as 43%, of which I'd assume (whatever the citizenship and status of the kids) around half have one or more illegal parents.

Posted by: JEM at March 17, 2017 11:22 AM (TppKb)

333 "James, the brother of Jesus"

Posted by: JAS at March 17, 2017 11:18 AM (Kresa)

You got a problem wit dat?

Posted by: BignJames at March 17, 2017 11:22 AM (x9c8r)

334 I have a terrible Creed earworm and cannot get out of my head.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:20 AM (8XRCm)


This will cure it

https://youtu.be/Zv69q_oeDOk

Posted by: Kindltot at March 17, 2017 11:22 AM (WQX/u)

335 sweet fancy Moses - These people just will not stop until they get their war with Russia.

Dem rep: US needs plan to deal with potential Russian nuke


http://tinyurl.com/k47lkat

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 11:22 AM (Q5kE6)

336 327
Totally off thread.... but .....


I have a terrible Creed earworm and cannot get out of my head.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:20 AM (8XRCm)


Can.
You.
Take.
Me.
HIGHAAA!

Posted by: Scott Stapp at March 17, 2017 11:23 AM (z/Ubi)

337
I feel angry .... I feel helpless

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:23 AM (8XRCm)

338 I have a terrible Creed earworm and cannot get out of my head.

Posted by: fixerupper

===

Can it take you higher?

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 11:24 AM (Q5kE6)

339 Try this to cure your earworm

https://youtu.be/PhShj1cpHSQ

Posted by: Kindltot at March 17, 2017 11:24 AM (WQX/u)

340 I have a terrible Creed earworm and cannot get out of my head.
Posted by: fixerupper


You should listen to some Pearl Jam to clear it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 17, 2017 11:24 AM (4YGWz)

341 Hey, wheelchair punchline. Didn't see it coming. Funny.

Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 11:25 AM (1G2ms)

342 327
Totally off thread.... but .....


I have a terrible Creed earworm and cannot get out of my head.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:20 AM (8XRCm)



It is your Sacrifice.

Posted by: buzzion at March 17, 2017 11:25 AM (z/Ubi)

343 I feel angry .... I feel helpless
Posted by: fixerupper
-----------

*pours fixer a shot of Old Bushmill's*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 11:25 AM (ZO497)

344 You all see where obama is in French Polynesian for a month sans Family?

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 17, 2017 11:16 AM (O2RFr)

I'll go out on a limb, and suggest he isn't there to chase dusky, perky-boobied Polynesian babes in grass skirts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2017 11:25 AM (WDdjT)

345 335 sweet fancy Moses - These people just will not stop until they get their war with Russia.

Dem rep: US needs plan to deal with potential Russian nuke


http://tinyurl.com/k47lkat
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 11:22 AM (Q5kE6)


Yeah, like... I dunno, just spitballing here, what about a sort of a missile defense system. You know where we'd work on missiles with the intent that they would shoot down incoming missiles.

We could even name it after a popular Sci Fy series.

Why hasn't anyone ever come up with something like that already?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 17, 2017 11:26 AM (KUaJL)

346 315 Well, if Joseph was 20-25, say, when Jesus was born, he'd have been 53-58 at the time of the Crucifixion. In those days, that would have qualified him as an Elder for sure. People married and died younger then.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 17, 2017 11:09 AM (ND+aa)

Not really. People forget that the "average age" is just that - a mathematical average. The low average age in earlier generations comes from the early years, not so much the later years. Many people died in the first few years of life - childhood diseases & such - which makes that average age so much lower than the average of today. Granted, medical advances means people are living longer today than in the past, but someone in their 50s wasn't elderly.

*
*
I see what you mean. In any case, if Joseph had still been alive in 28 AD, he'd have been in his mid-50s, not much younger (unless he and Mary had married at age 16 or something like that).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 17, 2017 11:26 AM (ND+aa)

347 fixerupper, I can help!

I've had this song in my head today, not sure why, but it's a good one (I'm not bsing you):

https://youtu.be/URU-gWAOlDM

It's a duet, so we can sing it together.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 11:26 AM (sBOL1)

348 >>I have a terrible Creed earworm and cannot get out of my head.


You don't need to be lonely with farmers only dot com!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2017 11:27 AM (NOIQH)

349
Why hasn't anyone ever come up with something like that already?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously
==

Because don't want to stop it, joe.

I really believe that they want to start it.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 11:27 AM (Q5kE6)

350
Motown for the win!!!!


Much better than the Balkan Battle of the Bras.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:28 AM (8XRCm)

351 Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 11:18 AM (1G2ms)

Getting ready to meet cousin for lunch. At age 50 he married a woman 20 years younger. It was first nuptial for both.

Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2017 11:28 AM (nNdYv)

352 I feel angry .... I feel helpless

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:23 AM (8XRCm)


**pushes fixerupper pint of Guinness through USB port**

I know the feeling. I promised myself I was not going to get depressed today, but that went right out the damned window. Right now I feel like drinking myself stupid(er), pulling up a few pics of Pola Negri and fapping into an oblivious stupor.

But I suppose I might as well go get a cup of tea. BBL, perhaps.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 17, 2017 11:28 AM (X6fMO)

353 Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 11:22 AM (Q5kE6)

This seems to be another person for whom history began with today's breakfast.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Swears Never Gonna Give You Up, Never Gonna Let You Down at March 17, 2017 11:28 AM (hLRSq)

354
heh.... freudian slip


Balkan Brass

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:28 AM (8XRCm)

355 Posted by: Some Ginzo at March 17, 2017 11:18 AM

LOL! Good on ya!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2017 11:28 AM (p+Wdc)

356 Freudian slip indeed.

Come on, you keep missing your cue.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 11:29 AM (sBOL1)

357 fixerupper, much better than the earworm I had last night.
how can one mend a brokenheart'

Why oh Why me!?

Posted by: willow at March 17, 2017 11:29 AM (R7cwD)

358 So tie a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 17, 2017 11:29 AM (IqV8l)

359 So those of us whining about a judicial coup from the first minute the absurd WA district usurpation occurred, and predicting that anything other than repudiation would lead to more/worse of the same, were sadly not wrong. But it was obviously so.


Judicial lawlessness didn't start last month. It's been ravaging the country for decades, with a (big) hand in many of the country's greatest problems. But this is qualitatively new territory.


They have nibbled at the edges before. Hamdan v. Bush (Gitmo military commissions procedures) usurped the treaty power and brazenly encroached on the president's national defense responsibilities.


But this latest chapter is nothing more than seizing control of policy matters that lie entirely, and indisputably, within the president's purview, and which are specifically so per statute and the constitution.


Impeachment of judges is irrelevant and impractical, splitting up the 9th is irrelevant and besides the point in any case.


Trump and Sessions have their Pearl Harbor or 9/11 moment. They didn't seek or plan for it. But it will be the most important thing they deal with.


I seriously doubt they have the courage or wisdom to do the hard thing and the right thing. The legal community is 90% brain-dead when it comes to such matters, can only imagine deference to courts, which was always a lazy and thoughtless approach but under the circumstances has become dangerously stupid.


If that odd breed of American voter out there, many of them non-political and certainly not scholars on the topic, were enraged by years of seeing wave elections have no impact (until the extraordinary story of the Teh Donald, to date), just wait until they see what "elections don't matter" *realllly

Posted by: rhomboid at March 17, 2017 11:29 AM (QDnY+)

360 "just wait until they see what 'elections don't matter' *realllly* looks like"

Posted by: rhomboid at March 17, 2017 11:30 AM (QDnY+)

361 What's a worse earworm to have? A Creed song or an Abba song? Discuss.

Posted by: Independent George at March 17, 2017 11:30 AM (BDZWU)

362 We could even name it after a popular Sci Fy series.
Why hasn't anyone ever come up with something like that already?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously


Star Wars system. Perfect example of why you have to punch the left in the teeth every damn time.

They're not just dangerous to themselves but to all of us.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 17, 2017 11:30 AM (ZFUt7)

363 Totally off thread.... but .....


I have a terrible Creed earworm and cannot get out of my head.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:20 AM


Here you go. This should cure it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGF5ROpjRAU

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2017 11:31 AM (p+Wdc)

364 Reggie must be with him.

IYKWIMAIKYD

Posted by: JAS at March 17, 2017 11:31 AM (Kresa)

365 YAWNNNNN!!!!!

Morning Horde!
This sleeping in on a Friday is nice.

Earworms? Best cure is a math problem. Do a math problem in your head.
(Or maths for you of the UK persuasion.)

Posted by: Diogenes at March 17, 2017 11:31 AM (0tfLf)

366 fixerupper, much better than the earworm I had last night.

how can one mend a brokenheart'



Why oh Why me!?

Posted by: willow at March 17, 2017 11:29 AM


Could be worse, willow. Last night's ear worm was Weird Al's "King of Suede".

Yeah...I get strange earworms.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2017 11:32 AM (p+Wdc)

367 Dem rep: US needs plan to deal with potential Russian nuke


http://tinyurl.com/k47lkat

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 17, 2017 11:22 AM (Q5kE6)

If the Russians engineered the election of Donald Trump, which seems to be an article of faith with the Donks, why would they then proceed to instigate a nuclear war with a USA having him as President?

Being a Democrat means not having to observe logical consistency.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2017 11:32 AM (WDdjT)

368 361 What's a worse earworm to have? A Creed song or an Abba song?

Posted by: Independent George at March 17, 2017 11:30 AM (BDZWU)


Yes.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 17, 2017 11:32 AM (HRSh5)

369 Why oh Why me!?
Posted by: willow at March 17, 2017 11:29 AM (R7cwD)

======

Checks for a new thread......Nope.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 17, 2017 11:32 AM (eEcGH)

370 fixer, I think you're finding out who your true friends are here.

Just sayin'

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 11:32 AM (sBOL1)

371 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGF5ROpjRAU
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2017 11:31 AM (p+Wdc)

----

WHERE do you guys *find* this stuff...?

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:33 AM (8XRCm)

372 368
361 What's a worse earworm to have? A Creed song or an Abba song?

Posted by: Independent George at March 17, 2017 11:30 AM (BDZWU)

Yes.
///
Much better than the owner of a broken hearrrrrrrt!

Posted by: SFGoth at March 17, 2017 11:33 AM (dZ756)

373 But this latest chapter is nothing more than seizing control of policy matters that lie entirely, and indisputably, within the president's purview, and which are specifically so per statute and the constitution.


Impeachment of judges is irrelevant and impractical, splitting up the 9th is irrelevant and besides the point in any case.


Trump and Sessions have their Pearl Harbor or 9/11 moment. They didn't seek or plan for it. But it will be the most important thing they deal with.
---

I've heard that disbarment is a potential option.


Posted by: shibumi at March 17, 2017 11:34 AM (FkAXz)

374 Media Man In Action!

http://tinyurl.com/m6polwd

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 17, 2017 11:34 AM (Nwg0u)

375 368 Yes.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 17, 2017 11:32 AM (HRSh5)
===

Do you mean the band Yes? I always thought that Owner of a Lonely Heart song was pretty good.

Posted by: Independent George at March 17, 2017 11:34 AM (BDZWU)

376
*puts bluebell on the friends list

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:34 AM (8XRCm)

377 Much better than the owner of a broken hearrrrrrrt!
Posted by: SFGoth

I cure that one easily by changing the lyric to blower of a smelly fart.

Posted by: Roy at March 17, 2017 11:35 AM (VndSC)

378 Yeah...I get strange earworms.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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I pick them up from the Musak in the grocery store, where they play oldies. 'Only Sixteen' by Sam Cooke is still making passes through my head from three days ago.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 11:35 AM (NBHj5)

379 He's so technically proficient. And his use of color, shade and shadow are just wonderful..

Posted by: macleod at March 17, 2017 11:36 AM (N315I)

380 One of my favorite scenes ever is when Keannu cracked her right in the mouth.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 10:02 AM (8XRCm)


Yes, I think we would all like to crack Tilda Swinton right in the mouth.

Wait, that phrasing is not good...

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 17, 2017 11:36 AM (HRSh5)

381 We had joy we had fun we had seasons in the sun.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 17, 2017 11:36 AM (IqV8l)

382 I google___d Tilda Swinton and ended up with an eyeworm. Looking for a fork to pluck it out.

Posted by: Roy at March 17, 2017 11:36 AM (VndSC)

383
Impeachment of judges is irrelevant and impractical, splitting up the 9th is irrelevant and besides the point in any case.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 17, 2017 11:29 AM (QDnY+)

I disagree. Impeachment is exactly how wayward judges should be handled. That our political class has no stomach for it doesn't change that.

Posted by: East Bay Moonshine at March 17, 2017 11:36 AM (uDCdI)

384 I tried to put the Juice Newton ear worm into people but nobody bit.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 17, 2017 11:37 AM (n3xLS)

385 We had joy we had fun we had seasons in the sun.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot
---------

*rummages through desk drawer*

I know that I have a gun in here somewhere...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 11:37 AM (ZO497)

386 I'm gonna tell you something about me Joe Rogan that you might now know. I smoke rocks.

Posted by: Tyrone Biggums at March 17, 2017 11:38 AM (BDZWU)

387 Impeachment of judges is irrelevant and impractical, splitting up the 9th is irrelevant and besides the point in any case.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 17, 2017 11:29 AM (QDnY+)

I disagree. Impeachment is exactly how wayward judges should be handled. That our political class has no stomach for it doesn't change that.

Posted by: East Bay Moonshine at March 17, 2017 11:36 AM


Absolutely agree. If they want to put politics before the law, make each individual judge pay for it with their job.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 17, 2017 11:38 AM (0tfLf)

388 Never knew there was German newspaper called "Goonies".

Posted by: Truffle Shuffle at March 17, 2017 11:38 AM (osbCZ)

389 Get him, Mike H.

Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2017 11:38 AM (sBOL1)

390 He's so technically proficient. And his use of color, shade and shadow are just wonderful..
Posted by: macleod
-----------

Also, a keen eye for the physical form.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 11:39 AM (ZO497)

391 Get him, Mike H.

Posted by: bluebell
-----------------

*searches for ball and powder*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 11:39 AM (ZO497)

392 Try this to cure your earworm

Surgery was successful but the patient is dancing.

Posted by: DaveA at March 17, 2017 11:40 AM (FhXTo)

393 I tried to put the Juice Newton ear worm into people but nobody bit.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 17, 2017 11:37 AM (n3xLS)

-----

Well.... arent you just an angel of the morning.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:40 AM (8XRCm)

394 Mrs D had some "call in and pledge $xxx and we will send you the complete set of CDs..." channel on the other day. Subject was the complete works of Burt Bacharach.

Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head

Etc...

Posted by: Diogenes at March 17, 2017 11:40 AM (0tfLf)

395 Sorry. That should be "Turkish". Autocorrect can be a strange thing.

Posted by: Truffle Shuffle at March 17, 2017 11:40 AM (osbCZ)

396 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 11:04 AM (ELUpj)

Whichever version was on HBO. It didn't say Ultimate Cut, so I'd assume theatrical.

Did the extended include much extra?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 17, 2017 11:40 AM (72PAC)

397 I think Trump might as well give up on the travel "ban." It ain't gonna happen.. I don't see why He can't make it "harder" to get into the Country at the entry point...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 17, 2017 11:41 AM (O2RFr)

398 >>"Filmed in and around JackStraw's, a commenter of some import at the smart military blog Ace of Spades, town."

Of no import. But if you ever find yourself in my neighborhood I will buy you a drink or two.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 11:42 AM (/tuJf)

399 Impeachment of judges is irrelevant and impractical, splitting up the 9th is irrelevant and besides the point in any case.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 17, 2017 11:29 AM (QDnY+)


Maybe if you mean creating a new jurisdiction and delegating the judicial authority to separate courts. If the committee comes to a Judgement of Solomon solution, that might be more effective. Just have to wait and see what they come up with.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 17, 2017 11:42 AM (8nWyX)

400 think Trump might as well give up on the travel "ban." It ain't gonna happen.. I don't see why He can't make it "harder" to get into the Country at the entry point...
--

There is one benefit of this-- it's bringing to light all the corrupt lefty judges who want to be president.

Perhaps he has a plan for them, but needs to know who is colluding with Obama first.

Posted by: shibumi at March 17, 2017 11:43 AM (FkAXz)

401 I think Trump might as well give up on the travel "ban." It ain't gonna happen.. I don't see why He can't make it "harder" to get into the Country at the entry point...
Posted by: It's Me donna
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For me, at this point, it is no longer about immigration, it is about lawless judges trampling on The Constitution.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 11:43 AM (ZO497)

402 redmindbluestate, at least al is fun.

Posted by: willow at March 17, 2017 11:44 AM (R7cwD)

403 Here is some Cactus to wipe out those nasty earworms:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEhVLcelDMQ

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2017 11:45 AM (WDdjT)

404 shibumi, not sure what disbarment would be about - the judges' personal standing?


It's not about these judges personally or individually. It's about their lawless actions, and the fact such lawlessness (and the mindset under it) are acceptable to the judiciary and deferred to by the executive and Congress.


Apparently Hinderaker over at PowerLine is breaking with standard legal community unseriousness on this topic, and saying repudiation of the court is the only option (and the president's actual duty, under the constitution). Which I think is absolutely correct - if only because no other options come to mind.


One reason I've been hoping for some more outrageous judicial usurpations, and on other policies, and right away. Once the collapsed judicial system bum-rushes Trump on several of his most important policies (without a shred of legal or constitutional rationale, as in this case), it MIGHT be enough to make Trump and Sessions and others realize - this is it. This is the whole ball game.


No tanks in the streets, no mass detentions. But seems almost nobody realizes that, in a system like ours (historically unique or close to it), where in fact rule of law was real, and courts earned their distinctive role, a lawless judiciary *is* chaos, it *is* constitutional dissolution. Because a branch that was accorded possibly unwise latitude is abusing it to effectively take over the country.


Rewording an EO, or even mocking the latest absurd ruling or focusing on how it would play out under a different president, entirely miss the point. Courts have literally inserted themselves into policy-making, contrary to the law and constitution - that's the point. And *effectively* negating that chaotic attack on the rule of law is the only solution, anything else just gets us more (much more) of the same.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 17, 2017 11:45 AM (QDnY+)

405 >.think Trump might as well give up on the travel "ban." It ain't gonna
happen.. I don't see why He can't make it "harder" to get into the
Country at the entry point...


For starters, he should defund all refugee resettlement programs, stop or s-l-o-w down the processing of entry request, etc. That doesn't address the authority that the courts stripped from the president, but it at least addresses the intent of the EO while they're working on a more direct response to this challenge.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 17, 2017 11:45 AM (NOIQH)

406 I think Trump might as well give up on the travel "ban." It ain't gonna happen..

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Because refugeehadis have more rights in this country than citizens.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 17, 2017 11:46 AM (Nwg0u)

407 Fun fact of the day. Moonrise Kingdom was largely filmed in an around my town.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 10:19 AM (/tuJf)


I cannot abide Wes Anderson. I've tried to watch his movies, but all they do is irritate me.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 17, 2017 11:46 AM (HRSh5)

408 ring my beeee-l ell ring my bell.

you're welcome

Posted by: willow at March 17, 2017 11:46 AM (R7cwD)

409 396 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 11:04 AM (ELUpj)

Whichever version was on HBO. It didn't say Ultimate Cut, so I'd assume theatrical.

Did the extended include much extra?
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 17, 2017 11:40 AM (72PAC)

==================

It's the cut Snyder wanted released in theaters. The studio made him cut it down.

I know that the tonal stuff won't change between the cuts. And if you don't like Affleck as Batman, that won't change with this.

It mostly makes some plot and character stuff clearer.

I enjoy the movie a fair bit, but it's still so flawed that I don't feel like investing the energy to defend it in the actual movie thread.

Still, though, the "Martha" crap is there. I will say this in that point's defense: Batman was not going to be reasoned out of his hatred of Superman because it wasn't reason that got him to that spot, but emotion. He had to have an emotional jolt to get him to change his mind. "Martha" feels like a first draft placeholder solution that never got addressed in any subsequent drafts (if there were any).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 11:46 AM (ELUpj)

410 For me, at this point, it is no longer about immigration, it is about lawless judges trampling on The Constitution.

I agree.. Tucker had this Woman on last night defending these judges saying that these "immigrants" are covered by The Constitution and the Bill of Rights... Tucker was incredulous...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 17, 2017 11:46 AM (O2RFr)

411 Posted by: Diogenes at March 17, 2017 11:38 AM (0tfLf)

This. People who refuse to do their jobs don't get to keep their jobs and they are no better than the rest of us. This is turning into an issue of class warfare, but it's not the one they're always looking for (though, perhaps ironically, it certainly is an issue of those who have power and those who don't).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 17, 2017 11:47 AM (sEDyY)

412 408 ring my beeee-l ell ring my bell.

No,no,no,no... Curse You Willow...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 17, 2017 11:47 AM (O2RFr)

413 I think Trump might as well give up on the travel "ban." It ain't gonna happen..

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Its moved past just the travel ban.

Its now about separation of powers and the judiciary politically inserting itself into policy making.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 17, 2017 11:48 AM (8XRCm)

414 if that doesn't work.

do do do do do dodododododo
do do do do dodo
don't worry be happy

because I'm nice like that.

this is what you guys get for
no sugar tonight in my coffee.
no sugar tonight in my tea.

Posted by: willow at March 17, 2017 11:48 AM (R7cwD)

415 ring my beeee-l ell ring my bell.
you're welcome
Posted by: willow at March 17, 2017 11:46 AM (R7cwD)


Isn't that the song by some 80s porn starlet?

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 17, 2017 11:48 AM (HRSh5)

416 >>I cannot abide Wes Anderson. I've tried to watch his movies, but all they do is irritate me.

Moonrise is indeed a quirky film and not for everyone. Honestly, main attraction for me was the setting, always kind of cool to see your everyday places on the big screen.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 11:48 AM (/tuJf)

417 Saint Joe looks all excited....that angel's wings need cleaning asap.

Mary is napping after getting her hair did.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 17, 2017 11:48 AM (5VlCp)

418 donna, snicker.

hands over hot cocoa to sooth the pain of it all.

Posted by: willow at March 17, 2017 11:48 AM (R7cwD)

419 @359

The rule of law doesn't simply mean sheepishly aquiescing to lawless and constituonaly unmoored dictates from black robes tyrants.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 17, 2017 11:48 AM (ie7oh)

420 They didn't seek or plan for it.

Certainly some between the 1st and 2nd EOs.

But it will be the most important thing they deal with.


Do they think so?
Is there a Non-Jacksonian (ignore the judge) solution? Seems like a Yugely fight with weak allies (the GOPe) and little visible upside.

Posted by: DaveA at March 17, 2017 11:48 AM (FhXTo)

421 I've heard that disbarment is a potential option

He should ignore this ruling and move forward.

But I don't think he will.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 17, 2017 11:49 AM (92ruB)

422 + an e

Posted by: willow at March 17, 2017 11:50 AM (R7cwD)

423 416 >>I cannot abide Wes Anderson. I've tried to watch his movies, but all they do is irritate me.

Moonrise is indeed a quirky film and not for everyone. Honestly, main attraction for me was the setting, always kind of cool to see your everyday places on the big screen.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 11:48 AM (/tuJf)

=================

The one movie of Anderson's that I love rather completely without any sense of hesitation is The Royal Tenenbaums.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 11:50 AM (ELUpj)

424 oregonmuse, mebbe.

Posted by: willow at March 17, 2017 11:50 AM (R7cwD)

425 I agree.. Tucker had this Woman on last night defending these judges saying that these "immigrants" are covered by The Constitution and the Bill of Rights... Tucker was incredulous...
Posted by: It's Me donna
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But, what to do when the media/academe adopt (and even believe) the same claptrap?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 17, 2017 11:50 AM (/ZEVC)

426 Lovi'n You is easy cause You're beautiful

Dod'n dod' de Eh ah,ah,ah,ah,ah,ah..

Got ya back Willow...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 17, 2017 11:51 AM (O2RFr)

427 Nood

Posted by: Flyboy at March 17, 2017 11:51 AM (eEcGH)

428 nood. awful press

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 11:51 AM (ELUpj)

429 ah ha.

Posted by: willow at March 17, 2017 11:51 AM (R7cwD)

430 Moonrise is indeed a quirky film and not for everyone. Honestly, main attraction for me was the setting, always kind of cool to see your everyday places on the big screen.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2017 11:48 AM (/tuJf)


Back in the 70s, they filmed an episode of some TV show, I think maybe 'Mannix', in an about where I lived. It was fun watching a scene where a car is driving along on a road north of town, makes a left turn, and then the road the car on is someplace to the south of town. Which, of course, nobody would know unless they lived there.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 17, 2017 11:53 AM (HRSh5)

431 I checked Wes Anderson - I've seen 3 films: Grand Budapest Hotel, Moonrise Kingdom, Fantastic Mr. Fox.

I thought Grand Budapest was funny and charming
Moonrise tried a bit too hard and was creepy.
Hated Mr. Fox.

Also, they all had that zero calories feeling.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at March 17, 2017 11:53 AM (Om16U)

432 rhomboid at March 17, 2017 11:45 AM

Well said sir.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 17, 2017 11:54 AM (0tfLf)

433 OOGA-CHAKA-OOGA-OOGA
OOGA-CHAKA-OOGA-OOGA

I can't stop this feeling
Deep inside of me....

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 17, 2017 11:54 AM (4YGWz)

434 Since Hawaii is so open, in principle, to Muslim immigration (it IS Muslim immigration they have complained about), I propose that Honolulu become the next Dearborn. Trump should call for having some equal opportunity hosting of our new friends, starting at Fort Derussy, right on Waikiki Beach. Spend some time building it up and sensationalizing it, but make it ready for the new residents. Hell, even build a mosque!

Let's see what Hawaii thinks about immigration then!

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 17, 2017 11:56 AM (9xIiZ)

435 shibumi, not sure what disbarment would be about - the judges' personal standing?


It's not about these judges personally or individually. It's about their lawless actions, and the fact such lawlessness (and the mindset under it) are acceptable to the judiciary and deferred to by the executive and Congress.
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As I understood it-- and I could very well be VERY wrong-- on a high enough level, if you're disbarred, you can't be a judge anymore. Or perhaps more accurately, you can be a judge but not preside over cases.

That was my thinking.

As for it not being about them personally... I think it is. They are legislating from the bench, which is not their job. They are deciding to put out these insane rulings. So they need to be taken out to the woodshed and made an example of. Enough examples might change everyones opinions.

Posted by: shibumi at March 17, 2017 11:56 AM (FkAXz)

436 Yikes. Impeachment? You know how long it takes to impeach a federal judge? How many have been impeached, in our entire history, for judicial malfeasance as opposed to more mundane criminal reasons?


It's obvious that impeachment is completely impractical as a response to this. But explaining that would be even more boring than my usual stuff, so I'll just leave it as a bald assertion.


All these options to avoid the issue make no sense. You have to confront the issue.


A court acting outside the law, and specifically usurping the clear statutory and constitutional duties of another branch, has no authority in those matters.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 17, 2017 11:56 AM (QDnY+)

437 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 17, 2017 11:46 AM (ELUpj)

I didn't mind Affleck at Batman as much as a lot of the rest of the cast, it was more the utter lack of backstory and motivation for actions. Just could have been explained and portrayed so much better. (The Martha scene screws so much of his character in the movie too.)

I still can't entirely decide if I'm being too harsh on the movie because of the iconic characters and comparisons to other superhero movies.

Part of me thinks if this was a non comic book blank slate movie and not based on exisiting IPs, I'd be a lot more forgiving. Still don't think I'd be a fan, but it wouldn't be a 'Oh damn what are you doing to your universe' type of reaction.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 17, 2017 12:00 PM (72PAC)

438 http://bit.ly/2mDlJxG
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FAKE NEWS: Did Trump Just Kill Meals On Wheels? Not Even Close.
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From NeverTrumper Ben Shapiro

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 17, 2017 12:03 PM (y3aQB)

439 Uh, uh, huh....uh, uh
(Bow Wow)
Huh, uh...say my
Huh, Huh, uhhhhh...name
(Bow Wow)
Uhhhh, huh.

Now that's an ear worm.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 17, 2017 12:07 PM (bQLQX)

440 No worries. In 2019, when Gorsuch is confirmed, we'll get that vetting thingy working.

Posted by: Mathers at March 17, 2017 12:07 PM (3myMJ)

441 Instead of impeachment, can appointed federal court judges be transferred to another district? Alaska, Marshall Islands, or Puerto Rico, for instance?

Posted by: LASue, so very deplorable at March 17, 2017 12:20 PM (CLKfs)

442 Wow.

"Ahhhhhhh"

very nice. Thanks.

Posted by: simplemind at March 17, 2017 12:32 PM (xVRrG)

443 Very nice. A lovely oak grove and the improbable vertebrates living therein.

A little cabin would look good in the upper right. cabins are always nice.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at March 17, 2017 02:28 PM (CPk08)

444 late to this thread but I love the Caravaggio painting. The angel is playing music to cheer up Mary, who is afraid and worried about her Baby. beautiful and lyrical.

Posted by: vivi at March 17, 2017 11:56 PM (11H2y)

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