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Pre-ONT Open Thread
Here's a story that you might want to talk about: The claim that in October 2016, Hannity pointed an (unloaded) gun on Juan Williams and even lit him up with the gun's laser-sight.
Last year, after ending one of his many spirited on-air arguments with liberal contributor Juan Williams, Hannity pulled out a gun and pointed it directly at Williams, according to three sources with knowledge of the incident. He even turned on the laser sight, causing a red dot to bob around on Williams' body. (Hannity was just showing off, the sources said, but the unforeseen off-camera antic clearly disturbed Williams and others on set.) For the record: Hannity's colleagues brought the Williams incident to the attention of Fox News executives, though it's not clear whether anything came of it.... The Fox News spokesperson also provided the following statements from Hannity and Williams. "While discussing the issue of firearms, I showed my good friend Juan Williams my unloaded firearm in a professional and safe manner for educational purposes only," Hannity's statement read. "Every precautionary procedure that I have been trained in since the age of 11 was followed. I've had a conceal carry permit in five states for all of my adult life. Any other interpretation of this is outright false reporting." "This incident is being sensationalized -- everything was under total control throughout and I never felt like I was put in harm's way," Williams' statement read. "It was clear that Sean put my safety and security above all else and we continue to be great friends."I'm sure that Hannity didn't put Williams' in danger, though I guess it is possible that Hannity handled it in a way that would alarm a gun-fearing liberal. (And the three people who talked to Byers may well be gun-fearing liberals themselves; most people that work at Fox are in fact liberals.) This kind of sounds like bullshit to me, but what do I know. I can see a gun owner trying to explain to a gun-fearing liberal that "guns don't work the way you say" and trying to show them, and then the liberal going "OH MY GOD A GUN!!!" But it is a weapon, and people don't like seeing weapons in the wrong context or handled sloppily. Go to any gun range and commit any Gun Fault and just wait for the shouts to come pouring in. Yeah, I know, I was wrong, and yeah, they were right (I think I carried my gun not quite pointed directly at the ground when moving to another station), but man, did I get an earful. Now I always carry the gun with the barrel pointed directly under my chin, Martin Riggs style, just to show everyone how cautious and cool-tempered I am.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Lizzy at March 16, 2017 08:03 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: pep at March 16, 2017 08:05 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 08:05 PM (tHwdc)
Politics is in itself a professional enterprise, just as much as your common small business.
Many people here right now reside in the latter (myself included).
It is here that we view coworkers at our regular business office by a set of principles custom to that office environment. Behavior, communication, decision-making, and work results are established to a certain normal standard. Their daily focus is to succeed in that arena. We get our news, politics, sports, on social media, tv, radio, AoS and other internet sites.
Trump is private businessman - real-estate, entertainment, private label retail. He plays in these waters, and knows how to please this audience to get things done to further his professional aspirations. He's successful due to mastering the skills and actions to be successful in that arena. His daily focus is to succeed in that arena. Pre-candidate Trump used to get his info from the same places. President Trump gets info from these same places plus his advisors.
Same can be said for the politician - their focus and business is politics. Their office watercooler includes think tanks, lobbyists, interest groups, aids, etc. They get their info that sect.
I think this shared commonality of having the majority of their focus not being on politics, but obtaining info the same sources is key to differentiate why he won. A lot had to do with platform and his anti-MSM fighting spirit early on, but the shared news and info sources between voters and Trump was the same as well. That is powerful. It was just a business guy that knows his customers well - a task made easier because they are linked by where they get their info. He spoke their language, and reacted in the same way they would react. Condition by the same standards both hold professionally and personally (ok maybe, very loosely here).
It was the shared ability to connect with voters in a way not as voter-representative, but as employee-employer or customer-salesman that resounded. I know that is how I slowly turned toward supporting him. I like winners, and have and want to work for CEOs that are successful, and that understand the delicate balance of the two.
Sorry short on time - Politicians on the other hand live in their own special echo chamber habitat. Less connection.
So in summary - I agree with your good piece. Nice touch on the Right Wing Radio (info source)- very salient and sound description.
I think going forward we should expect (ceteris paribus) Trump to stay in sync with conducting his admin more of less in the same fashion in response to what these shared info resources dictate.
--Also, it could be Sean Hannity and Lou Dobbs take turns being behind the wheel of the Trump Vessel, because they found that secret portal in Trump Tower like in 'Being John Malkovich'.
Steve Bannon is Orson Bean's character.
>Reposting here from OMB thread because I am retarded
Posted by: Carlos Danger at March 16, 2017 08:05 PM (fFfWq)
Not like CNN was all that concerned about that Meet the Press dude who had an illegal gun magazine (or something) i=on his show in DC.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 16, 2017 08:05 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 16, 2017 08:05 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Charlie Kilo at March 16, 2017 08:05 PM (8LbXK)
Posted by: pep at March 16, 2017 08:06 PM (LAe3v)
Just another in an unending parade of Leftist hysterias ...
LOL line about Martin Riggs, Ace ...
Posted by: ShainS at March 16, 2017 08:06 PM (mt8X9)
My theme song this week has been that pop hit where they sing I don't care!!! I love it!!!
I think it is by to hot chicks, but I could be wrong.
The Dem/lib axis is desperate to get a scalp. anything will do at this point, even the hair off a rat's ass.
*** But I will say if he was pointing the weapon at Juan Williams I'da slapped his hand.
Its one of the 3 inviolable rules my father taught me.
Posted by: Put that kid back where it came from or So Help Me at March 16, 2017 08:06 PM (HPNqc)
Good times.
Posted by: tbodie at March 16, 2017 08:06 PM (EUw/L)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 16, 2017 08:07 PM (fdyxv)
Posted by: Charlie Kilo
It was a spear.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 16, 2017 08:08 PM (4YGWz)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 16, 2017 08:09 PM (uuwor)
If you said 'bang!', he'd probably think he was.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 08:09 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 16, 2017 08:09 PM (fdyxv)
Posted by: freaked at March 16, 2017 08:09 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 16, 2017 08:05 PM (mbhDw)
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You better Take the Money and Run.
Posted by: Steve Miller Band at March 16, 2017 08:09 PM (v3DL/)
Posted by: Chilling the most at March 16, 2017 08:10 PM (Cl52v)
Posted by: buzzion at March 16, 2017 08:10 PM (z/Ubi)
Everything gets turned around to be about him. He's as annoying as he is dumb.
Posted by: pep at March 16, 2017 08:10 PM (LAe3v)
The hypocrisy of the Left has only gotten worse ...
Posted by: ShainS at March 16, 2017 08:10 PM (mt8X9)
Posted by: whig at March 16, 2017 08:10 PM (AH98f)
Posted by: logprof at March 16, 2017 08:10 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: Don Q. at March 16, 2017 08:11 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Captain Picard at March 16, 2017 08:11 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 16, 2017 08:11 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 08:11 PM (oVJmc)
I figure ace was trying to do some sweet Equilibrium-style gun kata.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 16, 2017 08:11 PM (uuwor)
Having said that, won't any competent gun safety instructor:
(1) Tell you there's no such thing as an "unloaded gun," and
(2) Tell you NEVER to point one at someone, unless you intend to follow through and shoot them?????
Me thinks Sean needs more safety lessons, big time.
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 16, 2017 08:12 PM (u8kLQ)
You better Take the Money and Run.
Posted by: Steve Miller Band at March 16, 2017 08:09 PM (v3DL/)
Woo-Hoo!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 16, 2017 08:12 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: willow at March 16, 2017 08:12 PM (R7cwD)
FOUR
RULES!
Posted by: Captain Picard
Five.
5. Whatever caliber you prefer, YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG, CIVILIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 16, 2017 08:12 PM (4YGWz)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 16, 2017 08:12 PM (kFnmp)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 16, 2017 08:12 PM (EnKk6)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 16, 2017 08:12 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 08:13 PM (oVJmc)
If that's the case I retract the first part of my previous statement.
Posted by: freaked at March 16, 2017 08:13 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 08:14 PM (oVJmc)
Did Juan try to brush the laser dot off himself?
No, but he was confused when Hannity moved it up the wall.
Posted by: pep at March 16, 2017 08:14 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: blaster at March 16, 2017 08:14 PM (HV1LS)
Posted by: freaked at March 16, 2017 08:09 PM (BO/km)
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Pfft. Bad discipline my ass. That Hannity didn't pull the trigger proves just how good his discipline was.
Posted by: Darth Randall at March 16, 2017 08:15 PM (v3DL/)
1) There was some confusion about when Columbo ran. Some people seemed to think it ran for 20 years straight but they only re-ran episodes from the 70s. In fact, Columbo's first run was on NBC from 1971 to 1978 and then it was resurrected on ABC from 1989 through 2003, with only specials from 1991-2003. I remember as a teenager getting hooked on Columbo reruns and then being very excited about ABC resurrecting the series, but I hated the ABC resurrection. I felt like the writing was much worse and that they exaggerated all of the character's idiosyncrasies. In the NBC version, Columbo acted a bit like a disjointed idiot but it was clearly an act. In the ABC series, it wasn't so much of an act.
2) I think the episode Ace was thinking about where Columbo let the muderess go was one where the murderess was an elderly former actress/dancer who performed in musicals on film and sung and danced. She committed the murder but also had dementia and it became clear she didn't actually remember committing it. One of her friends/admirers took the fall and she got very upset at him because she didn't remember that she actually committed the murder. Now Im going to look it up and see if my memory is correct or not.
Posted by: Keyser at March 16, 2017 08:15 PM (v8/5X)
NOT GUILTY!
Posted by: Every Jury In America at March 16, 2017 08:15 PM (kFnmp)
Posted by: JuJuBee at March 16, 2017 08:15 PM (dargh)
Something smells here... not sure if Hannity idiocy or lib fake-hate screaming about it just to be able to read the headline 'Hannity' with 'gun'
Posted by: Mr Wolf at March 16, 2017 08:15 PM (rD+jq)
Posted by: concrete girl at March 16, 2017 08:15 PM (pe9k3)
Pfft. Bad discipline my ass. That Hannity didn't pull the trigger proves just how good his discipline was.
Posted by: Darth Randall at March 16, 2017 08:15 PM (v3DL/)
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*tucks loaded gun under arm*
*golf clap*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 16, 2017 08:16 PM (EnKk6)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 16, 2017 08:16 PM (fdyxv)
If that's the case I retract the first part of my previous statement.
Posted by: freaked at March 16, 2017 08:13 PM (BO/km)
I'm just wildly speculating though. But with how stupid some people are I can see that being the case.
Posted by: buzzion at March 16, 2017 08:16 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 16, 2017 08:16 PM (uuwor)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 08:17 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: 80's music fan at March 16, 2017 08:17 PM (PHcLa)
Posted by: Homer Simpson at March 16, 2017 08:17 PM (kFnmp)
It's one of the NRA's basic rules of firearm safety.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 16, 2017 08:17 PM (ul9CR)
Rules 2 and 1 from Jeff Coopers Four Rules:
http://www.nlgunclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52
Posted by: mr_jack at March 16, 2017 08:17 PM (M59SC)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 08:17 PM (oVJmc)
Aye laddy!
Posted by: Chief O'Brien at March 16, 2017 08:17 PM (kFnmp)
Posted by: hillary "Felon" Clinton at March 16, 2017 08:18 PM (75WaT)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 16, 2017 08:18 PM (kFnmp)
Posted by: washrivergal at March 16, 2017 08:19 PM (Ivjge)
32 1 "Forgotten Lady" Harvey Hart William Driskill 92 minutes September 14, 1975
When elderly physician Henry Willis (Sam Jaffe) refuses to finance a return to the spotlight for his wife, aging former movie star Grace Wheeler (Janet Leigh) kills him in his sleep, passing it off as a suicide. The elderly butler (Maurice Evans) believes Grace was in a private screening room the entire time, watching one of her classic films. This is the only episode where the murderer is not arrested, as Ned Diamond (John Payne), her longtime song and dance partner, falsely confesses to save Grace, after Columbo points out to him that she is dying of a brain disease, ironically the reason her husband refused to finance her return, and doesn't even remember the murder. Columbo has no choice but to arrest Diamond, both realizing that by the time he is cleared, Grace will have died after spending her last days living happily in the past. The episode features excerpts from the 1953 musical comedy Walking My Baby Back Home, which starred Leigh. (This is the movie that was playing when she was committing the crime.)
Posted by: Keyser at March 16, 2017 08:20 PM (v8/5X)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 16, 2017 08:08 PM (4YGWz)
Boy, that escalated quickly.
Posted by: JuJuBee at March 16, 2017 08:20 PM (dargh)
I may have made all of that up.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:20 PM (PY9jH)
This is the kind of thing I would have thought someone here would have told me about long before now.
But nooooo!
You let me get caught flat footed on it.
Posted by: teej at March 16, 2017 08:20 PM (tnOuI)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 16, 2017 08:08 PM (4YGWz)
As long as it wasn't a longbow.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 16, 2017 08:21 PM (kFnmp)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 08:21 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 16, 2017 08:11 PM (mbhDw)
Money shot
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 08:21 PM (tHwdc)
Now I always carry the gun with the barrel pointed directly under my chin, Martin Riggs style, just to show everyone how cautious and cool-tempered I am.
Good gravy, Ace, this is magnificent. This is why we live here.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 16, 2017 08:22 PM (gIRsn)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 08:11 PM (oVJmc)
He chased it around the studio.
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 08:22 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: brak at March 16, 2017 08:22 PM (guIHw)
That said, trust in people handling firarms near my person is limited to my cop brother, one of my many cousins and two hunter friends.
Posted by: 13times at March 16, 2017 08:23 PM (WHVu+)
Rule #5 When pointing a weapon at Juan Williams, try to line up Shep Smith behind him.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 08:23 PM (LTHVh)
He was too afraid the idiot TSA goons here would take it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:24 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: hillary "Felon" Clinton at March 16, 2017 08:24 PM (75WaT)
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Wait. Wut???? Ace has a gun?
Posted by: L, Elle at March 16, 2017 08:25 PM (Rsi2C)
It's like more 'unnamed sources.'
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 08:25 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:24 PM (PY9jH)
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And rightly so.
Can he borrow a sword from somebody?
Are the bride and groom going to cut the cake with a sword?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 16, 2017 08:25 PM (EnKk6)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 08:23 PM (LTHVh)
Keep one chambered for Geraldo.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:25 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: @votermom @vm at March 16, 2017 08:25 PM (Om16U)
He was too afraid the idiot TSA goons here would take it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:24 PM (PY9jH)
I did historical sword fighting all over the country...
Never had a problem with TSA and swords... just have to let them know... and put it into checked baggage...
Posted by: Don Q. at March 16, 2017 08:25 PM (NgKpN)
My the back of my gun safe is just asking to be destroyed.
Posted by: wooga at March 16, 2017 08:26 PM (ta1vn)
Posted by: Skip at March 16, 2017 08:26 PM (GPaiX)
********
Wait. Wut???? Ace has a gun?
Posted by: L, Elle at March 16, 2017 08:25 PM (Rsi2C)
BowCaster?
Posted by: Don Q. at March 16, 2017 08:27 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 08:23 PM (LTHVh)
Thought that was 4(b) - make certain of your target and what is beyond it.
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 08:27 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:24 PM (PY9jH)
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And rightly so.
Can he borrow a sword from somebody?
Are the bride and groom going to cut the cake with a sword?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 16, 2017 08:25 PM (EnKk6)
I have no idea. The dad of one of their buddies is putting several Marines up at his house (God bless him). The rehearsal dinner last night was a cookout prepared by my son and some other Marines. D'oh Boy had his steak recipe printed in Sunny Anderson's Food Network cookbook.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:28 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Skip at March 16, 2017 08:28 PM (GPaiX)
Posted by: hillary "Felon" Clinton at March 16, 2017 08:24 PM (75WaT)
It's not the heat, it's the Huma-dity.
Posted by: JuJuBee at March 16, 2017 08:28 PM (dargh)
Posted by: Mimzey at March 16, 2017 08:28 PM (n3hky)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 08:28 PM (oVJmc)
I'm not sure this is true. Maybe he was a storm trooper.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 16, 2017 08:29 PM (Rsi2C)
Yeah, every one I know is taught these rules. Even during cleaning I keep everything pointed safe until I've got the firing mechanism disabled.
Better safe than sorry.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 16, 2017 08:29 PM (dzmBR)
In the 90s I took a delta flight back from Paris, and they let me put a sword in the overhead bin. The bag screening people were talking about how cool it looked, in their frenchy voices. Those were the days.
Posted by: wooga at March 16, 2017 08:29 PM (ta1vn)
Wait. Wut???? Ace has a gun?
Posted by: L, Elle at March 16, 2017 08:25 PM (Rsi2C)
There are worse things than banning. Just sayin'.
Posted by: rickl at March 16, 2017 08:29 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: eleven at March 16, 2017 08:29 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: wooga at March 16, 2017 08:26 PM (ta1vn)
Guns don't shoot themselves. Is your finger on the trigger?
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 08:29 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: Weasel at March 16, 2017 08:30 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: L, Elle
He was the one in white.
Posted by: pep at March 16, 2017 08:30 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Retired Buckey Cop is now an engineer at March 16, 2017 08:30 PM (5Yee7)
Posted by: Skip at March 16, 2017 08:30 PM (GPaiX)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:30 PM (PY9jH)
Not a storm trooper.
Chuck Norris as,,,, The Force.
Posted by: teej at March 16, 2017 08:31 PM (tnOuI)
Posted by: eleven at March 16, 2017 08:31 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 16, 2017 08:31 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: Weasel at March 16, 2017 08:30 PM (Sfs6o)
Amen - he's a bit of a whiny bitch.
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 08:32 PM (tHwdc)
Reading the article, to me it just smacks of being a hit piece on Hannity and Fox. Virtually every sentence is an assertion without supporting evidence, laden with pejoratives and insults.
Regrading what *actually* happened, I don't know, so I can't comment with too much wisdom. If Hannity pulled out his unloaded weapon on an unaware Juan, then that is obviously wrong. If they planned this ahead of time and the gun was inspected by Juan and never left his sight, then to me, it's a 'meh'.
Anything in between would put me on a sliding scale from livid to irritated.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 16, 2017 08:32 PM (8iiMU)
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Good to hear.
Between his giant Cock of Death and Trump-Hulk, we might just get this country back on track.
/can someone give Sessions some super powers? I think he might need them most of all... like the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz...
Posted by: SNL writers at March 16, 2017 08:32 PM (FkAXz)
Perhaps, but Hannity is still a tool.
Posted by: pep at March 16, 2017 08:32 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:30 PM (PY9jH)
He shouldn't point it at anyone he isn't prepared to destroy.
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 08:33 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: pep at March 16, 2017 08:33 PM (LAe3v)
Better safe than sorry.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 16, 2017 08:29 PM (dzmBR)
Sometimes, detail stripping is one of the more dangerous things you'll do with a gun. Mauser bolts spring to mind.
Then through mind.
Then through wall.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 16, 2017 08:33 PM (8nWyX)
Juan Williams is mort?
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 16, 2017 08:33 PM (Wr3DZ)
Oh I was just telling this story yesterday it must be told again.
Friend has some land. Enough that we've set up a plinking range on it. We shoot of his front porch (no joke.)
Anyway, he had some lab mates over. Most of them were from countries where guns were outlawed, so they had never handled them before. You get the standard safety talk before start shooting. One of the yahoos swings 180 muzzling the ENTIRE FIRING LINE with what was at least possibly (given that we were shooting) a loaded gun. I think the moron wanted a picture of himself holding it out off his hip.
My 3 closest friends literally grabbed him and pinned him to the porch rail with the barrel up in the air screaming "NO, FUCKING NO."
He lost shooting privileges the rest of the weekend.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 16, 2017 08:33 PM (dzmBR)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 08:34 PM (LTHVh)
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Hey Miley! Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner - this week kind of got away from me. Leaving in the AM for a few days out of town. Back before next weekend though!
Posted by: Weasel at March 16, 2017 08:34 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 16, 2017 08:34 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: blaster at March 16, 2017 08:34 PM (HV1LS)
TIME Cover: We Are All Palestinians Now
Children's book: Everyone Who Disagrees With Me Is Hitler
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 16, 2017 08:34 PM (wB8Tg)
Just sayin....
Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 16, 2017 08:34 PM (3cOA7)
But yes, if you've removed the magazine and inspected the chamber 100 times and confirmed it's unloaded it's a bit silly to act like a bullet is going to magically appear in the gun.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 16, 2017 08:35 PM (uuwor)
It helps if I read more closely.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 16, 2017 08:35 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 08:35 PM (tHwdc)
I've always thought Hannity is a jackass and this confirms it. You always treat every firearm as if it's loaded. You never point one at anything you're not willing to shoot. Asshole.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 16, 2017 08:35 PM (TJx8f)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 16, 2017 08:36 PM (gwPgz)
TIME Cover: We Are All Palestinians Now
Children's book: Everyone Who Disagrees With Me Is Hitler
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 16, 2017 08:34 PM (wB8Tg)
But Hitler was right? These people confuse me.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 16, 2017 08:36 PM (mbhDw)
Just wanted to let teh Horde know.
Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 16, 2017 08:36 PM (3cOA7)
When Dad went to clean the weapon he didn't check to see if a round was chambered. It was and it went clean through his hand. Last time Dad made that mistake.
Posted by: Old Blue release the KrakenTrump at March 16, 2017 08:37 PM (9iR5/)
And Hannity should learn the first rule of concealed carry. You never, ever advertise it.
Keeps the bad guys guessing.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 16, 2017 08:37 PM (5VlCp)
Good night horde
Posted by: Skip at March 16, 2017 08:37 PM (GPaiX)
Just wanted to let teh Horde know.
Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 16, 2017 08:36 PM (3cOA7)
My lawn. Off it.
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 08:38 PM (tHwdc)
Good night horde
Posted by: Skip at March 16, 2017 08:37 PM (GPaiX)
Only one guy ever mounted Saint Mary. And now I denounce myself.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 16, 2017 08:38 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Charlie Kilo
five years later, I'm still getting an earful.
It was unloaded. I'd finished at the station. But as it was a revolver, it wasn't visibly obvious it was unloaded.
Posted by: ace at March 16, 2017 08:38 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 08:39 PM (oVJmc)
First Ilsa the She Wolf demanded to know why he wasn't traveling in uniform, and he kindly explained to her that Marines can only travel in any uniform when they're with their unit.
She wasn't impressed and told him, "Well, if you were in uniform, things here would go a lot more smoothly for you."
He went into the nude scanner, came out the other side and was met with a full body pat-down, and had his hands swabbed for explosives. He was wearing shorts, a t-shirt, and flip flops.
They went through his Marine Corp(se) backpack like he was carrying heroin. It contained his i-Pad, and a change of underwear.
We walked him to his gate (after *I* was given the full rapey pat-down, as per usual), and he was pissed. "I can't believe I fought...." etc. They announced the military could board, and as he approached the boarding area, he was pulled out of line AGAIN by two TSA goons who went through his sad little backpack one more time.
Husband is convinced my early ties to the Tea Party not only pegged me, but our son as well.
I had my picture taken (while wearing my name badge) by some guy who did the same to all of our Tea Party members, and when we questioned him, he disappeared into the crowd.
Fuck you, Obama. Not a hot enough place in hell for you or your minions.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:39 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 16, 2017 08:39 PM (uuwor)
You may have had one of those Magic movie revolvers with unlimited rounds. You should know better.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 16, 2017 08:40 PM (IDPbH)
He was an Air Policeman, and lent his firearm to a friend whose weapon
was in the armory.
When Dad went to clean the weapon he didn't check
to see if a round was chambered. It was and it went clean through his
hand. Last time Dad made that mistake.
Posted by: Old Blue release the KrakenTrump at March 16, 2017 08:37 PM (9iR5/)
My brother's Army buddy shot him in the thigh - missed major artery by 1/4" - and no, he wasn't even cleaning the gun.
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 08:40 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: JuJuBee at March 16, 2017 08:40 PM (dargh)
Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 16, 2017 08:40 PM (3cOA7)
/sar
Posted by: Rosasharn at March 16, 2017 08:41 PM (PzBTm)
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 16, 2017 08:41 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 16, 2017 08:42 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: ace at March 16, 2017 08:38 PM (8rNrN)
I hope you at least understand why all of us Range Nazis never want to hear those words.
They belong in the Hall of Shame with "I've done this a thousand times," "what could go wrong," and "hold my beer."
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 16, 2017 08:42 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 16, 2017 08:35 PM (uuwor)
It's called training. You train to the point where you instinctually find it wrong. Otherwise you shouldn't own a firearm.
Posted by: Eddie Eagle at March 16, 2017 08:43 PM (TJx8f)
Posted by: eleven at March 16, 2017 08:43 PM (qUNWi)
Why were you changing stations, anyway? Did you rent two lanes? Conspicuous consumption ...
Anyway, just have the slide open when you're moving around and there won't be any problems, pointed or not.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 16, 2017 08:43 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: eleven at March 16, 2017 08:44 PM (qUNWi)
Oh yeah, I remembered another 'black knight' who used to be a relatively frequent O+A guest - Jim Jefferies. He was post-Tough Crowd and he's a tad liberal at times, and I admittedly haven't heard any of his stuff from the past few years, but he was gold in the late 00's/early 10's. Just a terrible human being and not at all shy about it.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 16, 2017 08:44 PM (uuwor)
Don't take it personally Ace. The rules are strict because there are fricking idiots out there, and even the best can get complacent. It's actually somewhat amazing accidental shootings are as low as they are. I suppose even the "hold my beer" set realize at some level a boo boo can be a very bad thing.
I had to call a cease fire on a range once when a new arrival went down to set up his target while the range was hot and bullets were flying. It took a "are you fricking kidding me" moment to realize I was actually seeing what I was seeing.
Posted by: Keith at March 16, 2017 08:44 PM (USf3s)
inspected the chamber 100 times and confirmed it's unloaded it's a bit
silly to act like a bullet is going to magically appear in the gun.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 16, 2017 08:35 PM (uuwor)
It's called training. You train to the point where you instinctually find it wrong. Otherwise you shouldn't own a firearm.
Posted by: Eddie Eagle at March 16, 2017 08:43 PM (TJx8f)
Put your finger in the hole.
Yes, that's what she said.
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 08:44 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: t-bird at March 16, 2017 08:45 PM (HwVbl)
"You'll burn your eye out."
This is from the "A Christmas Story" remake - the Red Rider BB gun with the laser sight.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 16, 2017 08:45 PM (zc3Db)
Former US president Barack Obama landed on the tourist island Tahiti without his family for a month-long stay at a luxury resort, according to local TV channel Tahiti Nui TV
I'm sure he's going to have a gay old time
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 16, 2017 08:46 PM (auHtY)
That's not exactly the movie for gun safety tips. Chet and Lisa each misused their firearms. (Lisa's gun was fake and Chet was Hannity as a kid but, still.)
Anthony Michael Hall's character (can't remember his name) did okay. Kicking Mad Max extras out of your house is what guns are for.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 16, 2017 08:46 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Eddie Eagle at March 16, 2017 08:43 PM (TJx8f)"
Yes Eddie, I've heard this all a million times. I've never broken the rules at the range and I'm a safe gun owner. I'm just saying that it verges on superstition.
Besides, we have conscious thought so it doesn't need to be instinctual. If I don't have a spot when I'm just benching the bar I'm not going to try to push 405 and suddenly forget that I need a spot.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 16, 2017 08:47 PM (uuwor)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 16, 2017 08:46 PM (auHtY)
My first thought when I read that on Weasel Zippers.
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 08:47 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: dantesed at March 16, 2017 08:47 PM (88xKn)
Ignore the emotional appeals they mean nothing.
That said, you don't fuck around with guns. That's definitely not cool and is a total breach of gun safety.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 16, 2017 08:48 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Randall Flagg at March 16, 2017 08:48 PM (oTX5E)
I *do* hope we're picking up his Secret Service tab for the month.
Posted by: t-bird at March 16, 2017 08:49 PM (/cksx)
Posted by: David Gregory at March 16, 2017 08:49 PM (TJx8f)
I'm sure he's going to have a gay old time
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 16, 2017 08:46 PM (auHtY)
+++
We were considering all that on the last thread. And, going over that picture of him and Branson: Branson having his hands in a "pretend" choke-hold on Obama's neck. They are both clad in their swim wear, we suppose. A "humorous" posed picture.
Posted by: washrivergal at March 16, 2017 08:49 PM (Ivjge)
Posted by: Reggie at March 16, 2017 08:49 PM (75WaT)
Posted by: dantesed at March 16, 2017 08:47 PM
Terry Kath from Chicago?
Posted by: otho at March 16, 2017 08:49 PM (lmIoG)
Posted by: Ismal Badhands at March 16, 2017 08:49 PM (pPTJ4)
inspected the chamber 100 times and confirmed it's unloaded it's a bit
silly to act like a bullet is going to magically appear in the gun.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 16, 2017 08:35 PM (uuwor)
But stories of negligent discharges show how once in a hundred or several hundred times something glitches. You mind glitches and you think you did X but you did not, or you were distracted and did Y without realizing it.
We used to clean weapons in the military all the time and I'm sure the muzzle swept people all the time, but no finger on the trigger pow pow stuff. Well, except for the funny photo I have of me holding a fellow trainee hands up with a .50 cal.
Posted by: Keith at March 16, 2017 08:49 PM (USf3s)
Oh yeah, I remembered another 'black knight' who used to be a relatively frequent O+A guest - Jim Jefferies. He was post-Tough Crowd and he's a tad liberal at times, and I admittedly haven't heard any of his stuff from the past few years, but he was gold in the late 00's/early 10's. Just a terrible human being and not at all shy about it.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 16, 2017 08:44 PM (uuwor
He is a black knight. His show Legit was great. I'm a huge fan of his.
He was a Opera singer in Australia before doing comedy. I found that tidbit to be out of left field and interesting.
Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 16, 2017 08:49 PM (3cOA7)
Posted by: Fritz at March 16, 2017 08:49 PM (YAPkP)
Bob Dole? I can't remember, either.
Posted by: t-bird at March 16, 2017 08:50 PM (/cksx)
inspected the chamber 100 times and confirmed it's unloaded it's a bit silly to act like a bullet is going to magically appear in the gun.
Until, well...
Posted by: Brandon 'the crow' Lee, who ain't coming back at March 16, 2017 08:51 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Sean Hannity at March 16, 2017 08:51 PM (JZdsf)
Posted by: Eddie Eagle at March 16, 2017 08:43 PM (TJx8f)
It can be surprising how wrong it feels, too. FPFT has you shooting real M9s at people. It takes a surprising amount of will to point a no-kidding pistol (albeit with a blue barrel and loaded with Simunitions) at someone, much less actually shoot it, lest the Wrath of 1,000 Dads come crashing down on your head.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 16, 2017 08:51 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: Fritz at March 16, 2017 08:52 PM (YAPkP)
That's what I'm talking about. Maybe the training should include a better understanding of instinctively clearing your weapon.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 16, 2017 08:52 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: Vito Corleone at March 16, 2017 08:52 PM (JZdsf)
I think it is by to hot chicks, but I could be wrong. [ . . . }
Surely not this one.
https://youtu.be/cjiIQ9Z02bU
Posted by: Kindltot at March 16, 2017 08:52 PM (WQX/u)
Posted by: Kindltot at March 16, 2017 08:52 PM (WQX/u)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUbARjJfgvI
Posted by: rickl at March 16, 2017 08:52 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Vito Corleone at March 16, 2017 08:52 PM (JZdsf)
This be true.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at March 16, 2017 08:53 PM (JZdsf)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 16, 2017 08:53 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 16, 2017 08:54 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 16, 2017 08:54 PM (T+OWU)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 16, 2017 08:54 PM (LWu6U)
You're telling me he's leaving his wife and youngest daughter for a month?
I'm shocked he didn't take his "best friend" Malia with him.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:55 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 16, 2017 08:54 PM (zc3Db)
That's easy to say when you don't have a red dot in the middle of your chest, He-man.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at March 16, 2017 08:55 PM (JZdsf)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 16, 2017 08:54 PM
Yep. Like parachutes in combat planes.
Posted by: otho at March 16, 2017 08:55 PM (lmIoG)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 16, 2017 08:53 PM (IqV8l)
He's going to bed Rock and bed Reggie and bed....
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 16, 2017 08:55 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: freaked at March 16, 2017 08:56 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:56 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Ok folks, hands up. Who would rather be robbed by me? Who would rather be robbed by him?
Posted by: Hillary and Bernie, accidentally entering a bank at the same time at March 16, 2017 08:56 PM (vRcUp)
Posted by: logprof at March 16, 2017 08:57 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: Average Guy at March 16, 2017 08:57 PM (LMcFk)
Probably not, though. I'm just saying. I mean I'm always "saying", but in this instance I'm just saying.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 08:57 PM (6gk0M)
I advise him not to be the bottom. Polynesian men get pretty bulky.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 16, 2017 08:57 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Infidel at March 16, 2017 08:58 PM (uKRys)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboror, VT at March 16, 2017 08:58 PM (WmgTn)
Posted by: pep at March 16, 2017 08:32 PM (LAe3v)
Not really disagreeing, but I categorize Hannity in the "earnest but not very bright" category. I used to watch him before there were better alternatives, but he really is not a very good interviewer (unlike Tucker "The Death Dealer" Carlson).
Posted by: Retired Buckey Cop is now an engineer at March 16, 2017 08:58 PM (5Yee7)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 16, 2017 08:58 PM (JZdsf)
Posted by: vivi at March 16, 2017 08:59 PM (11H2y)
Posted by: hogmartin at March 16, 2017 08:51 PM (8nWyX)
Yup. Ace just wrote about this recently. It's an induced fear trigger, and in this case, it's a worthwhile one. "Even though I checked this pistol 5 minutes ago, and I haven't let it out of my sight, I will still assume it's loaded." Because habits fail you, people forget stuff, and a nice fear trigger is just the ticket.
Posted by: Splunge at March 16, 2017 09:00 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 16, 2017 09:00 PM (P/kVC)
The lead biker was not an EXTRA in Mad Max.
He was a co-star in The Road Warrior.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 09:00 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:00 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Jean at March 16, 2017 09:01 PM (zZb/S)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:02 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Country Boy at March 16, 2017 09:02 PM (Jcg9Q)
Boy oh boy, he was given a send-off like father/husband/son of the year.
I didn't bother to so much as attend a nano second of the service. Over 200 people attended. I'm sure very few of them knew about his douchebaggery.
This is a smallish city. They'll all know soon enough.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:02 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:02 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Eromero at March 16, 2017 09:02 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: eleven at March 16, 2017 09:02 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: vivi at March 16, 2017 09:03 PM (11H2y)
Then through mind.
Then through wall.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 16, 2017 08:33 PM (8nWyX)
We can talk about the Astra 400 and the Hakim too.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 16, 2017 09:03 PM (WQX/u)
"Laser sights are for pussies and cheaters."
Probably not, though. I'm just saying. I mean I'm always "saying", but in this instance I'm just saying.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 08:57 PM (6gk0M)
They do highlight tremors beautifully on the target.
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 09:03 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 16, 2017 09:04 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: William S. Burroughs at March 16, 2017 09:04 PM (vRcUp)
-Posted by: Country Boy at March 16, 2017 09:02 PM (Jcg9Q)
The phrase is "Never hit a Lady." Once a broad draws blood, she is a combatant and no longer a "Lady".
At that point, she gets subdued with prejudice.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:05 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 09:00 PM (oVJmc)
And Bennet in Commando.
Posted by: blaster at March 16, 2017 09:05 PM (HV1LS)
Ugh, Jane D'oh.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 16, 2017 09:04 PM (6FqZa)
As my husband said, "It could have been way worse. He could have wiped out his wife and kids first."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:05 PM (PY9jH)
Becuase... Civil Rights of Foreigners.
/I may have got it wrong, I only lasted about 20 seconds with her.
Posted by: shibumi at March 16, 2017 09:06 PM (FkAXz)
Targeting liftoff at 20 minutes past the hour.
Posted by: rickl at March 16, 2017 09:06 PM (sdi6R)
They're hard to find. Believe me, I looked.
Posted by: Zombie Elvis Presley at March 16, 2017 09:06 PM (JZdsf)
Posted by: 80's music fan at March 16, 2017 09:06 PM (PHcLa)
Posted by: dantesed at March 16, 2017 08:47 PM (88xKn)
Courtney Love?
/I denounce myself.
Posted by: buzzion at March 16, 2017 09:06 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 08:56 PM (PY9jH)
What or who will prissy Barry do? I wonder where Aunt Esther will be for the next month? I'm guessing even Paolo wouldn't touch that
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 16, 2017 09:07 PM (auHtY)
Winchester 94 Carbine - Limited 100th Anniversary NY State Trooper Edition - 30-30 Win $749.99
http://bit.ly/2mOGx6m
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:07 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:07 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Infidel at March 16, 2017 09:07 PM (uKRys)
Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 16, 2017 09:07 PM (3cOA7)
against everybody else in the media. My question, is this how the left
starts the final assault?
Posted by: Eromero at March 16, 2017 09:02 PM (zLDYs)
Yep. They did it to Milo, they are trying it on Mattis, they think it works.
And it does. The Concerned conservatives find something to be offended by and throw the target under the bus from Fear/me-too-ism/because they are actually liberals at heart.
Yea! Us!
Posted by: Kindltot at March 16, 2017 09:08 PM (WQX/u)
/I denounce myself.
Posted by: buzzion at March 16, 2017 09:06 PM (z/Ubi)
Golf clap and a half
Posted by: Keith at March 16, 2017 09:08 PM (USf3s)
Every single one of his prog guests would happily load us all into cattle cars and take us not to camps, but to gas chambers.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:08 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:08 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Splunge
---------
Heh. I check for clear, even when I just put the thing away yesterday, and no one has had access to it since.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 16, 2017 09:08 PM (ZO497)
Posted by: vivi at March 16, 2017 08:59 PM (11H2y)
It is obvious to that the judge simply used spectral evidence to establish that muslims are a special class that must be allowed entry into the country.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 16, 2017 09:08 PM (P/kVC)
--
And they would congratulate themselves on ridding the world of another useless climate denier/ breeder.
Posted by: shibumi at March 16, 2017 09:09 PM (FkAXz)
Posted by: OldDominionMom at March 16, 2017 09:09 PM (GzDYP)
Flintlocks are ...different.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 16, 2017 09:09 PM (bZ7mE)
1. All guns are loaded. I was taught this in childhood. One day when I was 14 or so I was shooting trap with my brother and brought the barrel around and inadvertently passed it across my brother. My Stepfather grounded me for a month and I was stuck with every shit-job on the farm for weeks afterwards. That lesson was driven down to the bone.
Hannity didn't do it--or at least I can't imagine him being that reckless and stupid.
Posted by: troyriser at March 16, 2017 09:10 PM (nSXub)
Flintlocks are ...different.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 16, 2017 09:09 PM (bZ7mE)
What's the argument on that? There might be a pocked of unfired powder ready to ignight.
Posted by: Keith at March 16, 2017 09:11 PM (USf3s)
"Don't meddle with old unloaded firearms. They are the most deadly and unerring things that have ever been created by man. You don't have to take any pains at all with them; you don't have to have a rest, you don't have to have any sights on the gun, you don't have to take aim, even. No, you just pick out a relative and bang away, and you are sure to get him. A youth who can't hit a cathedral at thirty yards with a Gatling gun in three-quarters of an hour, can take up an old empty musket and bag his mother every time at a hundred."
Posted by: JTB at March 16, 2017 09:11 PM (V+03K)
What I wouldn't give to hear Tucker ask one of these progs this exact question.
Posted by: Infidel at March 16, 2017 09:11 PM (uKRys)
Then, four years back, I decided I needed to actually OH I DONT KNOW "learn how to use a gun." I took a training class, with my 16 year old son, and I was... nervous as hell. I was scared, I was unsure, and I ended up less nervous than I did the two hours before. But not by much.
My teen age son, however, was the opposite. He took to it, instantly. No fear, and absolute respect of the weapon. Then he got the Gun Bug.
He started looking into rifles. He bought a Mosin Nagant at a gun show, and I went to shoot it with him. And then... Something clicked.
I was responsible, I knew to be the master of the weapon, not let it master me. It was a tool, like others... but one I should and could be in charge of. Like a car, or a chainsaw. Respect, not fear.
My son now has three rifles, and I own three handguns and a rifle, and I am a card-carrying member of the NRA. I've also talked to colleagues about their gun thoughts and as I am surrounded by liberals the reactions I've gotten have been... interesting.
Hannity was being unserious, and that is the main point for why he should be criticized - I now cringe when I see any scene on a movie or TV show when someone has their finger on a trigger when they are walking or not aimed at a person. You can trip, you can twitch, and you can let loose a round that hits your partner in the back. Straight finger on the side of the weapon until you aim and shoot is my approach, and it works.
Posted by: Joseph Dickerson at March 16, 2017 09:12 PM (LDV7V)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:12 PM (PY9jH)
*****************
Martin Riggs--don't know who this is.
Posted by: Holmes at March 16, 2017 09:12 PM (fi5nC)
Posted by: rickl at March 16, 2017 09:12 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Burnt Toast
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alternatively
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 16, 2017 09:12 PM (ZO497)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 09:12 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Holmes at March 16, 2017 09:13 PM (fi5nC)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:14 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Batterup at March 16, 2017 09:14 PM (hes+/)
Posted by: Skip at March 16, 2017 08:26 PM (GPaiX)
His indefinite article? How does that work?
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:14 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 09:12 PM (oVJmc)
*********
I had to google it, but I remember the character now.
Posted by: Holmes at March 16, 2017 09:15 PM (fi5nC)
My husband grew up in a liberal, gun-hating family.
When my dear Dad died, he left his entire gun collection to us, and my husband couldn't get rid of them fast enough. Our son was five, and my husband was skeered.
Son goes into the Marines, gets out, comes home, buys guns, and drags his dad to the range.
Happy ending, husband loves and respects guns, and cannot get enough time at the range.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:15 PM (PY9jH)
*****************
Martin Riggs--don't know who this is.
Posted by: Holmes at March 16, 2017 09:12 PM (fi5nC)
Dude. Turn in your man and moron cards.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:15 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Infidel at March 16, 2017 09:16 PM (uKRys)
Martin Riggs--don't know who this is.
Posted by: Holmes at March 16, 2017 09:12 PM (fi5nC)
So, I'm not alone.
Posted by: Charles Gibson at March 16, 2017 09:17 PM (V4Qfo)
Good lord he makes some sense and I love him.
I'm off for a nap. Maybe see you'all later.
T
Posted by: Farmer at March 16, 2017 09:17 PM (o/90i)
Flintlocks are ...different.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 16, 2017 09:09 PM (bZ7mE)
I always run a dry patch down the barrel of the PA flintlock rifle between shots. Partly as a token gesture to clean fouling between shots and partly because having 55-60 grains of FFG thwoomping off right next to my face seems like it would be a really unpleasant surprise.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 16, 2017 09:17 PM (8nWyX)
Winchester 94 Carbine - Limited 100th Anniversary NY State Trooper Edition - 30-30 Win $749.99
http://bit.ly/2mOGx6m
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:07 PM (LTHVh)
It's a shame I'm dick broke.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:18 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Burnt Toast
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alternatively
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 16, 2017 09:12 PM (ZO497)
Spectral evidence has precedent of use in court, by witnesses. This time a judge is using it.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 16, 2017 09:18 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: Infidel at March 16, 2017 09:18 PM (uKRys)
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at March 16, 2017 09:18 PM (ptQdD)
A rank political decision like that should be grounds for impeachment, debarment, and prison. But fucking things up with a sweeping stay is their real strategy, so they'll shoot the moon.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 09:19 PM (oVJmc)
Martin Riggs--don't know who this is.
Posted by: Holmes at March 16, 2017 09:12 PM (fi5nC)
So, I'm not alone.
Posted by: Charles Gibson at March 16, 2017 09:17 PM (V4Qfo)
Me either.
Posted by: rickl at March 16, 2017 09:19 PM (sdi6R)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:19 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:19 PM (LTHVh)
It is a matter of breaking the letter of the "don't point a gun at anything you aren't willing to destroy" law (and freaking out bystanders, teaching bad habits to children, acting in an unsafe manner, etc) versus an unlikely but possible safety issue particular to muzzleloaders.
I myself blow across the muzzle and use a hand to funnel the wind into the bore without placing my mouth on the gun itself, which seems a practical solution. I also favor the idea that the first rule of gun safety is "know the condition of your weapon," since as a practical matter I can't always treat the gun as loaded and a rule that has to be selectively and deliberately broken is not a good law.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 16, 2017 09:19 PM (bZ7mE)
It's all bs of course, but that's all they got.
Posted by: OldDominionMom at March 16, 2017 09:19 PM (GzDYP)
Post '64 Winchester 94, pfooie!
(OK, that's one of the only gun snob things I know. I do have a 1949 '94).
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 16, 2017 09:20 PM (gIRsn)
Do you think that's a deal? Would it appreciate in value?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:19 PM (LTHVh)
Don't care. It's purty.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:20 PM (0mRoj)
Canoeing at iron-bottom cove.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:20 PM (LTHVh)
My father-in-law died and left all his guns to my wife.
She ain't sellin' anything.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 09:21 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 16, 2017 09:22 PM (fU1ci)
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 16, 2017 09:19 PM (bZ7mE)
It also helps to notch the ramrod at empty and loaded (if you hadn't done that already).
Posted by: hogmartin at March 16, 2017 09:22 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:23 PM (6gk0M)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:19 PM (0mRoj)
YES. Sadly, he sold most of them to the douchebag loser son of a guy he worked with. My dad must have spun in his grave.
Husband has since hated what he did. My dad wanted D'oh Boy to have those guns. Had he lived to see our son become a Marine, he'd have been so proud.
One of the guns was a weapon (have no idea what kind) taken off a Nazi by Dad's BiL. I'm sure it wasn't legal for him to have it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:23 PM (PY9jH)
Guns guns guns guns
Guns-dee guns, gunsidy guns!
Guns-dee guns, gunsidy guns!
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:23 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: rickl at March 16, 2017 09:23 PM (sdi6R)
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Black-robed priest: "UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN!"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 16, 2017 09:24 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:23 PM (PY9jH)
If it was a pistol, it was probably a Luger, in which case I'm weeping bitter tears on your behalf.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:24 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:24 PM (LTHVh)
I thought ewoks used spears and bows. I didn't realize they had discovered firearms.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 16, 2017 09:25 PM (vRcUp)
hogmartin, I've followed this same routine for thirty years with flintlocks and percussion. For the sake of 10 seconds, it's a reasonable precaution. If I was in a hurry, I would be using a semi auto not a traditional muzzleloader.
Posted by: JTB at March 16, 2017 09:25 PM (V+03K)
If Barry requests "The Full Brando," he'll likely spend one week partying and three weeks recovering.
Posted by: Fritz at March 16, 2017 09:25 PM (YAPkP)
Probably a P38, wouldn't you think?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:25 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:25 PM (6gk0M)
I haven't, 'cause I've never actually worked out a proper load for the one I have. Probably never will, as I think I am retiring it as soon as I get the next one built - I don't entirely trust the barrel these days.
Just got a NOS Green Mountain swamped barrel in the mail this week, and am figuring out what I want to do with it.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 16, 2017 09:26 PM (bZ7mE)
I myself blow across the muzzle and use a hand to funnel the wind into the bore without placing my mouth on the gun itself, which seems a practical solution. I also favor the idea that the first rule of gun safety is "know the condition of your weapon," since as a practical matter I can't always treat the gun as loaded and a rule that has to be selectively and deliberately broken is not a good law.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 16, 2017 09:19 PM (bZ7mE)
Interesting. One of the major concerns with a cartridge weapon being "always loaded" is that it is so easy for a cartridge to find it's way in by lack of attention. I didn't really associate that with a freshly fired BP rifle.
I don't own any BP now, but I do have a Colt Navy gnawing at my wallet from time to time.
Posted by: Keith at March 16, 2017 09:26 PM (USf3s)
participated online was whether or not to blow down the barrel after
shooting, to blow out any lingering sparks and soften fouling prior to
reloading.
Flintlocks are ...different.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 16, 2017 09:09 PM (bZ7mE)
I was told to do that when I first started shooting black powder, so I would reverse the rifle, ground the butt, grab the muzzle, blow down the barrel, and then start loading.
Then one day I did that and got to the point of blowing down the barrel, and the SOB in the lane next to me popped off his shot.
My first thought was, "I've just blown my brains out"
My second thought was, "how am I thinking with a giant hole through my head?"
Then I had to explain why I started laughing.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 16, 2017 09:26 PM (WQX/u)
273 *noms on delicious Chick-fil-A sammich happily*
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 16, 2017 09:22 PM (fU1ci)
===
I took Girl Franpsycho on a little road trip to Novato for her first Chik-fil-A last month. It was incredibly good. I had a salad on the side, and it, too, was a great salad.
Posted by: General Pinochet at March 16, 2017 09:26 PM (EZebt)
kind) taken off a Nazi by Dad's BiL. I'm sure it wasn't legal for him to
have it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:23 PM (PY9jH)
If it was a pistol, it was probably a Luger, in which case I'm weeping bitter tears on your behalf.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:24 PM (0mRoj)
I'm weeping with ya. When Daddy died, I was coming out of a brief period of liberalism. My husband (thanks to Daddy) was ahead of me. However, we were both askeered of having any guns in the house around our son.
I hate both of us for our stupidity.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:27 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 16, 2017 09:27 PM (EZebt)
"PBS and our nearly 350 member stations," said a statement released Thursday, "along with our viewers, continue to remind Congress of our strong support among Republican and Democratic voters, in rural and urban areas across every region of the country.
Go away. You won't be missed
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 16, 2017 09:28 PM (auHtY)
Probably a P38, wouldn't you think?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:25 PM (LTHVh)
Could be, they were both in service in WW2. I'm still weeping bitter tears though.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:28 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: JAS at March 16, 2017 09:28 PM (Kresa)
Posted by: Epobirs at March 16, 2017 09:28 PM (AK5Ni)
Jack - Yeah, it can be a tad superstitious but it's mostly to train yourself to follow the rules when it matters. It's like doing your warm-up set on the bench and treating it like it's your one rep - sure, you don't need perfect form to bench 135, but it's good practice for weights when you actually need perfect form.
But yes, if you've removed the magazine and inspected the chamber 100 times and confirmed it's unloaded it's a bit silly to act like a bullet is going to magically appear in the gun.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 16, 2017 08:35 PM (uuwor)
On the other hand, when I've taught new shooters, IllTemperedCur's 5th Rule of Safe Gun Handling is that when you hear someone say "don't worry, it isn't loaded" the only sane course of action is to dive behind the most solid piece of cover available.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 16, 2017 09:28 PM (cuZZW)
"PBS and our nearly 350 member stations," said a statement released
Thursday, "along with our viewers, continue to remind Congress of our
strong support among Republican and Democratic voters, in rural and
urban areas across every region of the country.
Why, fuck you very much, darlings. Bless your hearts.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:29 PM (PY9jH)
He "got it", instantly.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:29 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Ned Reid at March 16, 2017 09:29 PM (Nnmy9)
Posted by: JAS at March 16, 2017 09:30 PM (Kresa)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at March 16, 2017 09:30 PM (KgpWR)
Posted by: Ned Reid at March 16, 2017 09:29 PM (Nnmy9)
You didn't look down the barrel? Then how are you going to tell if it's chambered or not?
Jk
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:30 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 16, 2017 09:22 PM (fU1ci)
Chikan good.
Posted by: Leeloo Dallas at March 16, 2017 09:30 PM (8nWyX)
I'm not laughing at you , I'm laughing with you. The unfortunate timing is hilarious.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 16, 2017 09:31 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 16, 2017 09:22 PM (fU1ci)
Did you get a Hate Shake?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:31 PM (PY9jH)
I hate both of us for our stupidity.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:27 PM (PY9jH)
Bummer of bummers. Especially if it had the original Nazi markings...
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:31 PM (0mRoj)
Now I mostly shoot a 22 at varmints. I don't plan to ever need one for defense, but have a handgun if things got tense. A woman that hunts had her high school age kids out and I noticed once, a little ritual they did when she handed him her gun to put in the truck. It was like "the gun is yours" ... or something. I forget the exact words but like an official ... "take control" thing, which was kinda nifty.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 16, 2017 09:31 PM (BrMft)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at March 16, 2017 09:31 PM (KgpWR)
Bummer of bummers. Especially if it had the original Nazi markings...
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:31 PM (0mRoj)
I have no idea. My Daddy, retired AF officer, kept it "hidden" in the attic because of whatever.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:32 PM (PY9jH)
Tonight they had an interview with Maya Angelou. Where else are you going to get that kind of quality programming?
Posted by: freaked at March 16, 2017 09:33 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: vivi at March 16, 2017 09:33 PM (11H2y)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at March 16, 2017 09:33 PM (KgpWR)
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:33 PM (0mRoj)
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Integrity is sooooo 1980s.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 16, 2017 09:33 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 16, 2017 09:33 PM (fU1ci)
kind) taken off a Nazi by Dad's BiL. I'm sure it wasn't legal for him to
have it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:23 PM (PY9jH)
I assume they were at least sold. What's heartbreaking is to look in a photo of a pile of firearms turned in at some buy back for a $50 gift card and see all sort of nice to rare weapons likely from some similar situation.
Posted by: Keith at March 16, 2017 09:34 PM (USf3s)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 16, 2017 09:33 PM (fU1ci)
There's never a bad time to get a Hate Shake.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:34 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 16, 2017 09:33 PM (fU1ci)
Do you even have to ASK?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:34 PM (PY9jH)
participated online was whether or not to blow down the barrel after
shooting, to blow out any lingering sparks and soften fouling prior to
reloading.
But first ...
Posted by: Martin Riggs at March 16, 2017 09:35 PM (vRcUp)
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 16, 2017 09:35 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 16, 2017 09:33 PM (fU1ci)
Do you even have to ASK?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:34 PM (PY9jH)
Right? Especially cookies and cream. Mmmm...makes me feel tingly just thinking about it.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:35 PM (0mRoj)
"PBS and our nearly 350 member stations," said a statement released Thursday, "along with our viewers, continue to remind Congress of our strong support among Republican and Democratic voters, in rural and urban areas across every region of the country.
Go away. You won't be missed
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 16, 2017 09:28 PM (auHtY)
Yeah, piss off.
Posted by: rickl at March 16, 2017 09:35 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Sean Hannity at March 16, 2017 09:36 PM (YAd2u)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at March 16, 2017 09:37 PM (KgpWR)
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Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:37 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 16, 2017 09:37 PM (4YGWz)
Cable has replaced their children's programming niche.
And digital broadcasting has allowed them to broadcast multiple channels which should provide a larger viewer base.
It's time to give up the easy money of the gummint teat, PBS.
(Don't they alternately argue that 'we really don't get very much from the government?')
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 16, 2017 09:37 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: illiniwek at March 16, 2017 09:31 PM (BrMft)
Oh, neat, that is a really good idea, especially with kids. I think the BSA has (or had, who knows) something similar for when you're passing someone a knife or axe. It's kind of like in aviation "my airplane/your airplane" or in nautical litany "Lt. Wotsit has the deck and the conn".
Posted by: hogmartin at March 16, 2017 09:38 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 16, 2017 09:38 PM (fU1ci)
Watching True Grit. Rooster Coburn just said he kept one chamber empty so he don't shoot his own foot off.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 16, 2017 09:35 PM (IDPbH)
Which was extremely common for most of the old western revolvers since the firing pin was on the hammer. A good smack on the hammer could sometimes touch off the round.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 16, 2017 09:38 PM (cuZZW)
Every night when the actor fired it (blanks, natch) the audience would jump out of their skins.
Daddy insisted I keep it in my Atlanta apartment in case I was robbed. Well, lo and behold, I came home to the mansion I lived in (was turned into four apartments), and it was being re-roofed. Someone tore a hole through the ceiling above my bed and my suitcase was laid open on my bed, but when I came in the upstairs back door, they fled. And never noticed the loaded 22 under my bed. Damn, I miss that gun.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:38 PM (PY9jH)
in at some buy back for a $50 gift card and see all sort of nice to
rare weapons likely from some similar situation.
Even worse when they are destroyed. I'm sure the 'officials' skim the good ones first.
Posted by: Infidel at March 16, 2017 09:38 PM (uKRys)
Posted by: cm9000 at March 16, 2017 09:39 PM (C06tc)
Posted by: JAS at March 16, 2017 09:39 PM (Kresa)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 16, 2017 09:38 PM (fU1ci)
We really need to get "phrasing" back in the rotation.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:39 PM (0mRoj)
Who pays for C-SPAN? IIRC, the various cable/satellite companies all chip in for it, which is obviously then passed on to subscribers, right?
So why can't the PBS programming be supported that way instead of off of taxes? Heck, channels like MSNBC can exist because, A] NBC owns a lot of other profitable channels, so it can afford the loss, and B] like other unprofitable channels, it survives through bundling channels as opposed to cable/satellite customers being able to pay for only channels they want a la cart. So why not bundle PBS and have the cable/satellite companies fund it?!?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 16, 2017 09:39 PM (NOIQH)
http://tinyurl.com/m3kqkxk
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 16, 2017 09:40 PM (Nwg0u)
Dad was a rifleman in the Reserves, so I've loaded and shot rifles since I was fourteen.
I haven't handled many handguns, however.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:40 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Infidel at March 16, 2017 09:38 PM (uKRys)
I always hope so. That's one level of corruption I can overlook.
Posted by: Keith at March 16, 2017 09:40 PM (USf3s)
in at some buy back for a $50 gift card and see all sort of nice to
rare weapons likely from some similar situation.
Even worse when they are destroyed. I'm sure the 'officials' skim the good ones first.
Posted by: Infidel at March 16, 2017 09:38 PM (uKRys)
Like drug seizures.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:40 PM (0mRoj)
So who again is whiny and not so bright?
Posted by: MKM at March 16, 2017 09:40 PM (D8fDd)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:41 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 16, 2017 09:41 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Kindltot at March 16, 2017 09:41 PM (WQX/u)
Posted by: freaked at March 16, 2017 09:41 PM (BO/km)
"PBS and our nearly 350 member stations," said a statement released Thursday, "along with our viewers, continue to remind Congress of our strong support among Republican and Democratic voters, in rural and urban areas across every region of the country."
Why, you condescending snots. Your lineup drips pure disdain for the rural population, especially that prick Garrison Keillor.
You went to the top of my FOADIAF list when you offered your bon mot of "How to Speak Tea Partyese" back in 2009 or 2010. I hope that you choke on your own hubris and bile.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 16, 2017 09:42 PM (v1g1+)
This is good practice, actually, especially with older wheel guns: keep the hammer on that empty chamber, because sometimes *bump* *BANG!*
Posted by: JQ Flyover at March 16, 2017 09:42 PM (044Fx)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:42 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:43 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: JQ Flyover at March 16, 2017 09:43 PM (044Fx)
See, the written verdict, here, acknowledges that, as our duly-elected President, Trump does have this power enumerated to him by the Constitution. But this judge has declared that he doesn't like the way Trump is using the power, because Trump has the "wrong" political views, and therefore he, this mere judge, gets to take a Constitutionally-granted power away from the President.
You know, some day, there will be a Democrat President again. Are liberals okay with the idea of some judge in Texas taking a Constitutionally-granted power away from that President, just because he disagrees with the President politically?
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler. Welcome to Trumpdome, bitch! at March 16, 2017 09:44 PM (0OG8D)
You make a good point but I don't think you know the definition of pervasive if you're describing the Horde.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 16, 2017 09:44 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 16, 2017 09:44 PM (89T5c)
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This is my rifle. This is my gun.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 16, 2017 09:45 PM (Nwg0u)
This is good practice, actually, especially with older wheel guns: keep the hammer on that empty chamber, because sometimes *bump* *BANG!*
Posted by: JQ Flyover at March 16, 2017 09:42 PM (044Fx)
It would have to be pretty old for that to be an actual risk.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:46 PM (0mRoj)
I made a far less stupid mistake on a Marine Corps Rifle Range many years ago. I still remember the screaming.
Posted by: Beaches at March 16, 2017 09:46 PM (9ZwVV)
But, but...
tote bag!
Posted by: Your PBS at March 16, 2017 09:46 PM (BO/km)
341 333 What's heartbreaking is to look in a photo of a pile of firearms turned
in at some buy back for a $50 gift card and see all sort of nice to
rare weapons likely from some similar situation.
Even worse when they are destroyed. I'm sure the 'officials' skim the good ones first.
Posted by: Infidel at March 16, 2017 09:38 PM (uKRys)
Like drug seizures.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:40 PM (0mRoj)
Or if you use a handgun to defend yourself. It's not uncommon for the cops to destroy the gun immediately after your shoot is ruled justified. Sometimes they destroy it by having it disappear into the Assistant Chief's personal gun safe.
Some jurisdictions are worse about this than others, of course.
Even if you get it back, it's likely to have been tossed into a bin with a bunch of other evidence guns, and it'll look like someone dragged it behind their squad car on a high speed chase.
Which is why it's a good idea to use a fairly inexpensive and common firearm for your defense needs.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 16, 2017 09:46 PM (cuZZW)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:46 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Sean Hannity at March 16, 2017 09:47 PM (YAd2u)
Posted by: wooga at March 16, 2017 09:47 PM (ta1vn)
Oh, neat, that is a really good idea, especially with kids. I think the BSA has (or had, who knows) something similar for when you're passing someone a knife or axe.
The person receiving the cutting tool must say "Thank you" to indicate that he or she now has control of the tool before the person handing it to him or her releases it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 16, 2017 09:47 PM (v1g1+)
So who again is whiny and not so bright?
Posted by: MKM at March 16, 2017 09:40 PM (D8fDd
I was all in on Trump 2 months after he announced.
I've always believed Hannity to be lazy, not prepared, immature, speaking in sound bites like a parrot, and somebody who has a long history of riding coattails beginning with his radio career on Rush's coattails.
And you don't point a gun at anybody no matter what. Dumb move. He needs to grow up and smarten up.
Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 16, 2017 09:47 PM (3cOA7)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 16, 2017 09:45 PM (Nwg0u)
This is for shooting,
This is for engaging enemy battleships and shore emplacements
Posted by: USS Missouri at March 16, 2017 09:47 PM (WQX/u)
yeah, good comparison.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 16, 2017 09:47 PM (BrMft)
I am so damned grateful I no longer am forced to work with people with whom I disagree about pretty much everything. I head a "volunteer" job with my church hosting/catering receptions, be they funerals, or for musicians who perform concerts.
If I had to do non-paying hard work and had to put up with liberal/prog yakking, I'd quit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:47 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: torabora at March 16, 2017 09:48 PM (AhPGR)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:48 PM (LTHVh)
http://tinyurl.com/m3kqkxk
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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The shakeup - which will take effect in April - comes on the heels of comedian Amy Schumer accusing haters of conspiring to flood her latest Netflix special with one-star reviews. "The alt-right organized trolls attack everything I do," Schumer said. More on the Schumer issue here.
Lefties are so busy organizing themselves that they project their obsession onto the right.
Posted by: Martin Riggs at March 16, 2017 09:48 PM (vRcUp)
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 16, 2017 09:48 PM (IDPbH)
So air guns are the gateway drug to automatic assault weapons... You heard it here first!
Posted by: t-bird at March 16, 2017 09:48 PM (ysprU)
Posted by: Kindltot at March 16, 2017 09:41 PM (WQX/u)
Cool. I didn't know that. Today it's Japan's Cape Canaveral.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanegashima
Posted by: rickl at March 16, 2017 09:48 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:46 PM (0mRoj)
Why yes, yes it is. Haven't sent it in for the "fix" yet... older Ruger Vaquero.
Posted by: JQ Flyover at March 16, 2017 09:49 PM (044Fx)
Posted by: Jon Eric Hexum at March 16, 2017 09:49 PM (xlzu7)
tinyurl.com/lvxjmqo
I sub'ed in:
1/4 cup of whole wheat flour
1 tab of sour cream for 1 tab of butter reserved for butter wash.
Nice and cakey. The previous versions I've tried were crumbly scone messes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 16, 2017 09:49 PM (4YGWz)
Constitutionally-granted power away from that President, just because he
disagrees with the President politically?"
Well, of course such a thing would never be allowed and would be speedily quashed if it did.
Emanations. Penumbras. Standing. Force fields. Tractor beams.
All of these doctrines are unidirectional, you see.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 16, 2017 09:49 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:49 PM (LTHVh)
Even if you get it back, it's likely to have been tossed into a bin with a bunch of other evidence guns, and it'll look like someone dragged it behind their squad car on a high speed chase.
Which is why it's a good idea to use a fairly inexpensive and common firearm for your defense needs.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 16, 2017 09:46 PM (cuZZW)
I've heard this. Getting seized property back from the cops is a real bitch apparently, especially if it's a gun, or a camera you used to record them with. It's not uncommon for the footage to be deleted or the memory card conveniently "misplaced."
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:50 PM (0mRoj)
Why, fuck you very much, darlings. Bless your hearts.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:29 PM (PY9jH)
I love you, Jane. Had to be said.
Posted by: Miley, Daywalking Duchess at March 16, 2017 09:51 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 16, 2017 09:51 PM (fU1ci)
Posted by: Splunge at March 16, 2017 09:51 PM (iMxBJ)
375 Martin Riggs is a pansy
Posted by: Jon Eric Hexum at March 16, 2017 09:49 PM (xlzu7)
Oh Dood......so insensitive.
And I'm going to the Special Hell for laughing.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 16, 2017 09:51 PM (cuZZW)
Posted by: JTB at March 16, 2017 09:52 PM (V+03K)
you will give it a girl's name.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:48 PM (LTHVh)
Your days of finger banging Mary Jane Rottencrotch through her frilly pink panties are OVER!
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:52 PM (0mRoj)
For much of 2016 it did indeed describe a sizable number if not outright majority of posters on this site the point where I didn't visit it months. The Cruz vs. Trump wars and never-Trumpers made it unreadable.
The point being that a lot of people here got it completely wrong in 2012 when they predicted Romney would win. They also got it completely wrong in writing Donald Trump off before the primaries were even finished. These same folks now have the nerve to describe somebody who unabashedly supported the winning team while under tremendous duress from all sides as "stupid"?
Please.
Posted by: MKM at March 16, 2017 09:52 PM (D8fDd)
Posted by: JQ Flyover at March 16, 2017 09:49 PM (044Fx)
Ah so.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:53 PM (0mRoj)
Your days of finger banging Mary Jane Rottencrotch through her frilly pink panties are OVER!
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:52 PM (0mRoj)
So you wouldn't mind if I gave her a call?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 16, 2017 09:53 PM (cuZZW)
The person receiving the cutting tool must say
"Thank you" to indicate that he or she now has control of the tool
before the person handing it to him or her releases it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)
My family has always made you pay for it. Whether knife or gun. You had to pay a penny. Something about "It now belongs to you, take good care."
Posted by: Infidel at March 16, 2017 09:53 PM (uKRys)
The problem is that her audience had expectations of comedy. Where did they ever get that idea?
Posted by: t-bird at March 16, 2017 09:53 PM (ysprU)
ha, yeah. But they use shotguns for deer. I'm not sure if they have rifling or not for deer slugs.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 16, 2017 09:54 PM (BrMft)
Heres a little piece of gossip. Not from CNN though, sorry
Fake News?
WHO CARES!
Obama Made Surprise Visit to Hawaii 48 hours Before Judge Blocked Trump Travel Ban.
Hawaii Judge Derrick Kahala Watson graduated with Obama at Harvard Law in 1991. Obama was seen in Hawaii yesterday. Really makes you think.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at March 16, 2017 09:54 PM (KgpWR)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:54 PM (6gk0M)
I've been a CCW permit holder in MA. When I moved to CT they wouldn't recognize it. So I've twice spent $100-ish to take the safety courses here in CT. I've never come up with the roughly $200 in application fees, background check fees, fingerprint fees that it takes to get permitted here.
So, if I have a couple of handguns safely locked and stored at home I can't legally bring them out of the house nor buy ammunition for them.
Some "right".
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 16, 2017 09:54 PM (gIRsn)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 16, 2017 09:53 PM (cuZZW)
Ask Grump, that's his department.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:54 PM (0mRoj)
I do that with my kids: when we're handing a gun between us, the "handee" looks the "hander" in the eye & says "Thank You" before the hander lets go of the weapon.
We even do it with the pellet rifle. I do it when I take a new shooter to the range
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 16, 2017 09:54 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, Dividing by Zero at March 16, 2017 09:54 PM (ysprU)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 16, 2017 09:55 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 16, 2017 09:56 PM (vRcUp)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at March 16, 2017 09:54 PM (KgpWR)
Promises were made. Beejers were exchanged.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:56 PM (0mRoj)
The problem is that her audience had expectations of comedy. Where did they ever get that idea?
-
- Rachel Maddow
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 16, 2017 09:56 PM (Nwg0u)
I understand you believe Hannity deserves some type of waiver for his frequent dumbassery because of his loyalty to Trump but that's not the way it works. That's not how any of it works.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 16, 2017 09:56 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: Sean Hannity at March 16, 2017 09:56 PM (YAd2u)
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 16, 2017 09:52 PM (0mRoj)
Luvvin' the 4F!
Posted by: Jody at March 16, 2017 09:57 PM (RZdMg)
Anyhow, he was a strong young guy, who dearly loved his 485 Winchester that he treated like a woman.
So, our last afternoon drive with him, he let me hold the yuge, heavy thing, and we named "her" together. And now I can't remember "her" name.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 09:57 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 16, 2017 09:57 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Emma Watson at March 16, 2017 09:57 PM (YAd2u)
...flood her latest Netflix special with one-star reviews.
The new scale is binary -- thumb up or thumb down -- so she can break through into scoring zeros on her future offerings.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 16, 2017 09:57 PM (v1g1+)
Never point the muzzle at anything you do not want to destroy.
If Hannity actually did that, he should be fucking ashamed of himself.
Posted by: Long name that doesn't say things we don't like at March 16, 2017 09:58 PM (YtzJ5)
Please."
-Posted by: MKM at March 16, 2017 09:52 PM (D8fDd)
Thank you for being as gracious as I was conciliatory and deferent.
I'd much rather admit fault than gloat like a douche.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:59 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Chris M at March 16, 2017 09:59 PM (6RZos)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 16, 2017 09:59 PM (6gk0M)
Never point the muzzle at anything you do not want to destroy.
If Hannity actually did that, he should be fucking ashamed of himself.
Posted by: Long name that doesn't say things we don't like at March 16, 2017 09:58 PM (YtzJ5)
This. Sometimes Hannity gets way too full of himself. "Sometimes."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 16, 2017 10:00 PM (PY9jH)
A former classmate? Huh. Whaddaya know... I'm sure the press are *breathlessly* covering their possible "mini- class reunion."
Posted by: JQ Flyover at March 16, 2017 10:00 PM (044Fx)
I've been a CCW permit holder in MA. When I moved to CT they wouldn't recognize it. So I've twice spent $100-ish to take the safety courses here in CT. I've never come up with the roughly $200 in application fees, background check fees, fingerprint fees that it takes to get permitted here.
So, if I have a couple of handguns safely locked and stored at home I can't legally bring them out of the house nor buy ammunition for them.
Some "right".
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 16, 2017 09:54 PM (gIRsn)
Those state gun laws are blatantly unconstitutional.
That any court would uphold them shows how corrupt the courts are.
Posted by: rickl at March 16, 2017 10:00 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: garrett at March 16, 2017 10:00 PM (YAd2u)
1. Where Obama played golf: Mid-Pacific Country Club, 266 Kaelepulu Dr, Kailua, HI 96734
2. Obama visited: Buzz's SteakHouse, 413 Kawailoa Rd, Kailua, HI 96734 (I don't think this one is relevant)
3. Location of the Courthouse: Prince Kuhio Federal Building, 300 Ala Moana Blvd, Honolulu, HI 96850
If you look on google maps, both 1 and 2 are about 30 minutes by car from the courthouse.. Obviously if Obama were to meet him, they wouldn't meet at the courthouse- that's just silly. But it gives you a rough idea of the the general vicinity in which the judge lives and works, and therefore, how accessible he would have been to Obama. Given the location of the courthouse on the water, if the judge were to leave the courthouse, he almost certainly would only be traveling closer towards Obama. Given Obama's locations on the water as well, were he to leave the country club, he almost certainly would only be traveling closer towards the judge.
http://tinyurl.com/mdrrylx
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at March 16, 2017 10:00 PM (KgpWR)
I'm not fond of "binary" rating systems in general, though, so this change kind of sucks, IMO. Especially since it was made specifically to keep a joke-stealing special snowflake from getting one-star reviews.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler. Welcome to Trumpdome, bitch! at March 16, 2017 10:01 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 16, 2017 09:54 PM (gIRsn)
Way back when I was a wee sprog, we moved from Athens GA to Lawrence MA. According to the story as I understand it, my dad had to register his firearms (which were probably a pump shotgun, maybe a Ruger Security Six, and a 10/22) and the desk sergeant gave him a huge ration of shit and hurry-up-and-wait. Dad had copies of all the relevant state laws or something, and finally got the shift supervisor to relent, so the desk sergeant had to fill out the registrations. As he was doing so he said something like, "your mistake was bringing your guns into Massachusetts", to which my dad, according to the story, replied, "no sir, my mistake was bringing my family to Massachusetts".
Posted by: hogmartin at March 16, 2017 10:01 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: pat at March 16, 2017 10:02 PM (4MSOz)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 16, 2017 10:03 PM (89T5c)
cock to spin the cylinder. Load one round, skip one chamber then load
four. Bring to full cock and lower the hammer. The firing pin will be on
the empty chamber every time.
Posted by: JTB at March 16, 2017 09:52 PM (V+03K)
With the Navy and Army Colt you could also put it on half cock - and that did leave it open to catching the hammer and fanning it by accident - or you could ease the hammer back a enough to disengage the cylinder indexing lock, and rotate the cylinder just enough to allow you to rest the hammer between the nipples
Posted by: Kindltot at March 16, 2017 10:05 PM (WQX/u)
So who again is whiny and not so bright?
Posted by: MKM at March 16, 2017 09:40 PM (D8fDd
I was all in on Trump 2 months after he announced.
I've always believed Hannity to be lazy, not prepared, immature, speaking in sound bites like a parrot, and somebody who has a long history of riding coattails beginning with his radio career on Rush's coattails.
And you don't point a gun at anybody no matter what. Dumb move. He needs to grow up and smarten up.
Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 16, 2017 09:47 PM (3cOA7)
No doubt this will be Willowed. I like Sean Hannity. He has flaws, as all of us do, but he is fearless in his opposition to the left. With me, that counts for a lot.
As for the gun-pointing incident: many years ago I saw a bumper sticker on the car of an elderly gentleman. It read, "I don't believe the liberal media."
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 16, 2017 10:06 PM (TdMsT)
Er, uh, at least that's the way I did do it, before that tragic boating accident.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler. Welcome to Trumpdome, bitch! at March 16, 2017 10:07 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at March 16, 2017 10:08 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Flyboy at March 16, 2017 10:22 PM (4imdv)
Posted by: Clyde at March 16, 2017 10:36 PM (PkIg+)
Posted by: Flyboy at March 16, 2017 10:53 PM (THj70)
Patriotic Canadian anti-nazi propaganda movie.
One unarmed Canadian against an armed Nazi, pfft, ...
Posted by: gNewt at March 16, 2017 11:32 PM (PkIg+)
Posted by: Zapp Branigan at March 17, 2017 06:37 AM (FgFCM)
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