Madison University "Students" Stumped By Insanely Simple and Obvious Hypothetical

A new law proposed in Madison would strip away all rights of creative professionals (singers, photographers, bakers-- whatever) to refuse to serve a client based on political or religious disagreement.

This is obviously stupid and authoritarian.

"Alliance Defending Freedom," an advocacy group for conscience rights, asks some students if they support a dress designer's right to refuse to dress Melania Trump, or of the right of a Muslim singer to refuse a Christian Church's request to sing at an Easter mass.

Of course they immediately agree that these creative professionals have that right, and must have that right, because -- Because Of Course. What other way could it possibly be?

Then they're asked if a Christian photographer should have the right to refuse to take photos at a gay wedding.

That's where things get a bit stumpy and stammerey.

Posted by: Ace at 03:53 PM

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1 Madison, they named a University after that foppish Toadie?

Posted by: Zombie Hamilton at March 13, 2017 03:55 PM (HF/nI)

2 I notice this a LOT. If you turn the argument around, a third of them will clench up, grit their teeth, and agree that yes, it's wrong then too. I admire that third for their consistency.

The other two thirds either get all wishy washy, scream RACIST!, or pretend they don't understand the question.

Posted by: Toastrider at March 13, 2017 03:57 PM (MbjKe)

3 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at March 13, 2017 03:57 PM (GwIKd)

4 These kids (yes, I know some are older than me) have clearly never been taught to follow something through to its logical conclusion. Or they've smoked as much pot as Gary "What's an Aleppo?" Johnson.

Posted by: pookysgirl at March 13, 2017 03:57 PM (ar2KI)

5 Love it!!

And this happens every time a GOP candidate wants to use a popular song with his/her campaign. The jerky singer makes a statement announcing that he/she doesn't want their song used because political differences.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 13, 2017 03:58 PM (NOIQH)

6 Leftist students didn't learn a damn thing, who woulda guess.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2017 03:58 PM (HDU3V)

7 Shorter: "It's different when it comes to protecting my values!"

Posted by: Lizzy at March 13, 2017 03:59 PM (NOIQH)

8 Dear God. Is Madison home to some Cult of the Dumb?

The most important subject almost every person interviewed failed was basic logic and truthful conclusions.

These people don't want democracy. They want autocracy and they either don't know it or won't acknowledge it.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 13, 2017 03:59 PM (gjdGN)

9 Egality is not a difficult concept to wrap your head around.

Posted by: garrett at March 13, 2017 03:59 PM (HF/nI)

10 The stupid - it burns!

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 13, 2017 03:59 PM (Fb9aZ)

11 We are standing on the slippery edge of an abyss and these fools keep pushing and adding oil. Freedom is freedom for everyone who is legally living under our Constitution, not just the people you like or think are cool.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at March 13, 2017 04:00 PM (kXoT0)

12 "Alliance Defending Freedom, an advocacy group for conscience rights,
asks some students if they support a dress designer's right to refuse to
dress Melania Trump, or of the right of a Muslim singer to refuse a
Christian Church's request to sing at an Easter mass.

So it is OK to order Christians to serve muzzies but not for Christians to refuse service to cults they do no support. The irony escapes them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 13, 2017 04:00 PM (mpXpK)

13 Hey - top ten without even trying!

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 13, 2017 04:00 PM (Fb9aZ)

14 Knowledge is good

Posted by: Emil Faber at March 13, 2017 04:00 PM (qJhUV)

15 They're just programmed, don't ask them to think.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 13, 2017 04:01 PM (oVJmc)

16 Double standards... no standards at all...if it were not for...assembly required. Yada yada yada.

Posted by: USNtakim at March 13, 2017 04:01 PM (hMqvx)

17 It's like, well, you know, the baker thing. That's just not right. But you know, entertainers, they are just like, so righteous and should be able to do what they want. You know what I mean?

Hey do I get a free latte for this or maybe a bag of organic cheetos?

Posted by: Marcus T at March 13, 2017 04:01 PM (gjdGN)

18 So a Mohammedan can refuse a fag anything, but a Christian can't?

Got it

Posted by: Sam at March 13, 2017 04:02 PM (lEhiV)

19 Heh. So many petards.

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote, Super-Genius at March 13, 2017 04:02 PM (hLRSq)

20
Madison, they named a University after that foppish Toadie?
Posted by: Zombie Hamilton

Will the dancing Hamiltons please wait in the wings? We are only seeing singing Hamiltons.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 13, 2017 04:02 PM (IqV8l)

21 Since when have liberals ever been ideologically honest?

Of course they know making an Evangelical Christian business owner be a part of a gay wedding is wrong and evil, that's why they get such a kick out of it.

People need to understand that liberals don't make lawsuits/laws like this to "protect" gay people, they do it for the scalp and humiliation.

Posted by: Maritime at March 13, 2017 04:02 PM (D3P4S)

22 4
These kids (yes, I know some are older than me) have clearly never been
taught to follow something through to its logical conclusion. Or they've
smoked as much pot as Gary "What's an Aleppo?" Johnson.

Posted by: pookysgirl at March 13, 2017 03:57 PM (ar2KI)
______________________________________________
What's A Leppo? One of the long lost Marx brothers of course! Groucho, Chico, Zeppo, Harpo and Leppo

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 13, 2017 04:02 PM (Fb9aZ)

23 So, we are pretty much fvcked as a Country. Gah. These idiots obviously don't know the definition of hypocrisy.

Posted by: Infidel at March 13, 2017 04:03 PM (uKRys)

24 Yes folks. These are the future barristas, food servers, newspaper editors and college deans of America.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 13, 2017 04:03 PM (gjdGN)

25 They all need overseas scholarships to Europe, Holland, Germany, Sweden

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2017 04:03 PM (HDU3V)

26 I am seriously depressed for the left. This shit is so stupid as to be embarrassing.

Really, no grown up in the crowd?

Posted by: Sam at March 13, 2017 04:04 PM (lEhiV)

27 I had a friend who when getting ready to graduate with a degree in Comp Sci asked one of our professors for a recommendation to grad school. When the professor found out he was trying to get into UW-Madison, the prof refused saying it was not a good school.

That was in 1978.

Posted by: JAS at March 13, 2017 04:04 PM (Kresa)

28 23
So, we are pretty much fvcked as a Country. Gah. These idiots obviously don't know the definition of hypocrisy.

Posted by: Infidel at March 13, 2017 04:03 PM (uKRys)

I would hardly tar the whole country based on the most liberal college in the country.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 13, 2017 04:04 PM (mpXpK)

29 Haw haw! Whadda buncha maroons!

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at March 13, 2017 04:04 PM (NNd07)

30 Consistency is the mortal enemy of the Social Justice crowd. It's a great part of the reason they scream "Racist! Sexist! Homophobe!" and various other epithets so often. Can't conduct a fruitful indoctrination about the Evil White Capitalist Patriarchal Christian Conspiracy when someone's just proved you logic-deficient.

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at March 13, 2017 04:04 PM (mj4NC)

31 Double standards are worth twice as much as single ones!

Posted by: Al B. Kirky at March 13, 2017 04:04 PM (r86t6)

32 I know people just like this. They lack the brainpower to understand that laws always yielding results they like will necessarily yield results that are intolerable to others.

This is why I continue to believe that something like civil war is in our future.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 13, 2017 04:05 PM (97XyN)

33 How is it that *none* of them laugh or otherwise have a on "Oh, man, you got me!" moment?

All except for the one guy (beanie and glasses) were quick to agree with the first hypothetical; all were adamant that any law that forces artist to accept all customers was ridiculous.

So, is this because they are really that unself-aware, or is it like that Triump video where the college students clearly want to say one thing but hold back because they know it's un-PC. Think it's the former...

Posted by: Lizzy at March 13, 2017 04:05 PM (NOIQH)

34 This is a parody of a parody.

Would anyone 20 years ago not laughed these people off the stage?

Posted by: Sam at March 13, 2017 04:05 PM (lEhiV)

35 If dems ever get back in charge they'll try to make it law that you can have this one way discrimination because of white christian privilege.

Posted by: GregV61 at March 13, 2017 04:05 PM (+5nuR)

36 I am beginning to think that serving in the greatest Navy in the world from 17yo to 23yo was the best choice I ever made. (beats indoctrination)

Posted by: USNtakim at March 13, 2017 04:06 PM (hMqvx)

37 But they believe that they mean well.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 13, 2017 04:06 PM (hLRSq)

38 I love these videos where our intelligentsia-in-training get punked.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 13, 2017 04:06 PM (so+oy)

39 It is for this very reason that I have always been deeply opposed to hate crime laws. No one know what is in the heart and minds of someone committing a heinous crime--NO ONE. Even if they explicitly said that hate was their motivation, so what, does it change the outcome for the victim? But once you enter hate into the legal arguments, the jury cannot look at the facts objectively because their hates and biases prevent that. Then there are the hate crimes that turn out to have nothing to do with hatred towards the victim, Matthew Shepherd anyone?

The entirety of Sharia Law is built on Hate for infidels or anyone who opposes or disobeys Islam and it comes complete with ghastly punishments carried out by its adherents while they sing, laugh, dance, and clap, sometimes they even throw candy.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at March 13, 2017 04:06 PM (kXoT0)

40 This is why I continue to believe that something like civil war is in our future.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 13, 2017 04:05 PM (97XyN)

I doubt that, BUT buy ammo it is cheap now.

Posted by: Sam at March 13, 2017 04:06 PM (lEhiV)

41 People have the right to do stuff we like and the right to not do stuff we don't like. How fucking hard is that to figure out, you right wing retards!!

Posted by: The Incredibly Stupid Sarah Silverman at March 13, 2017 04:06 PM (qJhUV)

42 8 Dear God. Is Madison home to some Cult of the Dumb?

--

I lived in Madison for a couple of years out of college.
It really is.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 13, 2017 04:07 PM (KUaJL)

43 1 Madison, they named a University after that foppish Toadie?

Posted by: Zombie Hamilton at March 13, 2017 03:55 PM (HF/nI)

No, they didn't. They named the city after that foppish Toadie. It's the University of Wisconsin - Madison, aka Berkeley Central.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:07 PM (ZM2xo)

44 And there are your future HR dept. heads. Enjoy the suck, America.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:07 PM (PY9jH)

45 Heh.

My line is always:

"Should a vegan architect be required to design an abbatoir?"

Posted by: JEM at March 13, 2017 04:08 PM (TppKb)

46 The young woman in the green sweater could well be Sally Kohn's little sister.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:08 PM (PY9jH)

47 "Heads I win, tails you lose" is a game as old as coins.

Unfortunately, some people have tried to turn it into a "culture."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2017 04:08 PM (wB8Tg)

48
What I'm hearing is that some Fascism is okay.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 04:08 PM (LWYzG)

49 44
And there are your future HR dept. heads. Enjoy the suck, America.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:07 PM (PY9jH)

After 30 years of employment I never met a graduate from the UWM.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 13, 2017 04:08 PM (mpXpK)

50
Fascism is okay, as long as it's politically correct fascism.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 04:09 PM (LWYzG)

51 But we are the fascists.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2017 04:09 PM (/tuJf)

52 And there are your future HR dept. heads. Enjoy the suck, America.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:07 PM (PY9jH)

Until the robopocalypse.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 13, 2017 04:09 PM (hLRSq)

53 To watch their heads go all 'splodey, they should be asked if a Muslim photographer/florist/baker should be allowed to refuse service to a gay wedding.

Posted by: Jarrod at March 13, 2017 04:09 PM (E4H8A)

54 Madison, aka Berkeley Central.

That won't annoy them enough. Call it "Flyover Berkeley".

Posted by: mikeski at March 13, 2017 04:09 PM (JmGsr)

55 I liked the guy tapping his fingers nervously on the lid of his Starbucks cup.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:09 PM (PY9jH)

56 I lived in Madison for a couple of years out of college.
It really is.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 13, 2017 04:07 PM (KUaJL)

Remember, this is the city of anti-Walker protests and sing-alongs and Crying "Democracy Is Dead" boy. It's Tammy Baldwin's home.

The rest of Wisconsin (now a red state) thinks Madison is nuts.

Some good restaurants though.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:10 PM (ZM2xo)

57
I would hardly tar the whole country based on the most liberal college in the country.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 13, 2017

The problem is this is what a majority of the 'government' schools is putting out to generations of children. From pre-school to graduate school. This seems to be the norm, not the exception. It scares the crap out of me.

Posted by: Infidel at March 13, 2017 04:10 PM (uKRys)

58 >>After 30 years of employment I never met a graduate from the UWM.

Sadly, many in my family are graduates because a relative was a dean there (got the building named after him and everything). Said dean would be absolutely appalled by what has happened to UWM.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 13, 2017 04:10 PM (NOIQH)

59 42
8 Dear God. Is Madison home to some Cult of the Dumb?

No, that would be Chapel Hill, NC home of UNC-CH

Posted by: Sam at March 13, 2017 04:11 PM (lEhiV)

60 "Should a vegan architect be required to design an abbatoir?"

Can a pro-choice vegan consume "aborted" veal? I mean, it's just a fetus, not a living thing, right?

Posted by: mikeski at March 13, 2017 04:11 PM (JmGsr)

61 57 The problem is this is what a majority of the
'government' schools is putting out to generations of children. From
pre-school to graduate school. This seems to be the norm, not the
exception. It scares the crap out of me.

Posted by: Infidel at March 13, 2017 04:10 PM (uKRys)

Most of them are bad, but this is one of the worst in the country.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 13, 2017 04:11 PM (mpXpK)

62 So simple and so effective

Posted by: Gman at March 13, 2017 04:11 PM (VXoTW)

63 Lotsa fine cheese shops throughout Wis. so there's no real reason to get off the interstates in Dane Co. I should ask my cousin if he gets alumni rebates when they do something especially stupid. Hell Pitt probably owes me money.

Posted by: DaveA at March 13, 2017 04:12 PM (FhXTo)

64 Hey, Vic, how you doing? Good to see you in the afternoon.

Posted by: Sam at March 13, 2017 04:12 PM (lEhiV)

65
But wait a minute you ignorant hypocritical Christiams!!

How can you be against abortion and be for the death penalty!?!?

Posted by: typical stupid fucking moonbat at March 13, 2017 04:12 PM (LWYzG)

66 Cowards.

Posted by: anotheranon at March 13, 2017 04:13 PM (tKpEr)

67 64
Hey, Vic, how you doing? Good to see you in the afternoon.

Posted by: Sam at March 13, 2017 04:12 PM (lEhiV)

Cruising along feeling like crap

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 13, 2017 04:13 PM (mpXpK)

68 Logic and Liberalism? In the same sentence or Thought? Shirley you jest?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2017 04:14 PM (KlI/a)

69 38 I love these videos where our intelligentsia-in-training get punked.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 13, 2017 04:06 PM (so+oy)

Intelligensia? These are people of stupid.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2017 04:14 PM (SRKgf)

70 A new law proposed in Madison would strip away all rights of creative professionals (singers, photographers, bakers-- whatever) to refuse to serve a client based on political or religious disagreement.

Fine. Let's play Will To Power.

Off the top of my head, I can think of about 30+ things I would want put on a cake and then surrounded by gorgeous flowers which will then be photographed that would make the people doing all of those things have the damn vapors.

Those awful horrible homophobes.

So if we're going to play this, and we really really really really shouldn't play this, then I will play too.

Game on.

Posted by: alexthechick - Parallama platoon ahoy! at March 13, 2017 04:14 PM (mf5HN)

71 68 Logic and Liberalism? In the same sentence or Thought? Shirley you jest?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2017 04:14 PM (KlI/a)

You can't spell Liberal without "Er......"

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 13, 2017 04:14 PM (KUaJL)

72 69 38 I love these videos where our intelligentsia-in-training get punked.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 13, 2017 04:06 PM (so+oy)

Intelligensia? These are people of stupid.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2017 04:14 PM (SRKgf)

It's all feelz. They're emotionaligentsia.

Posted by: josephistan at March 13, 2017 04:15 PM (7HtZB)

73 I find these types of videos both depressing and distressing - to see and contemplate how vastly and deeply these kids have been indoctrinated to this point.
You can almost see their propagandized computer brains shorting out given circumstances outside of their realm of knowledge.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 13, 2017 04:15 PM (Ivjge)

74 Cruising along feeling like crap

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 13, 2017 04:13 PM (mpXpK)

This rain is not helping my fcking shoulders either.

At least you are still with us. The morons from hell!

Posted by: Sam at March 13, 2017 04:16 PM (lEhiV)

75 Intelligensia? These are people of stupid.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
..............
I was being wry.. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't..

But, guarantee you THEY will think they are part of the intelligentsia..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 13, 2017 04:16 PM (so+oy)

76 1 Madison, they named a University after that foppish Toadie?
Posted by: Zombie Hamilton at March 13, 2017 03:55 PM (HF/nI)

_____________________________

Yes, but not this one.

James Madison University is in Madison's home state of Virginia (in Harrisonburg).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 13, 2017 04:16 PM (riF5p)

77 Most of them are bad, but this is one of the worst in the country.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Sorry you are feeling like crap. I know it's the worst. I'm still looking for work. Had an interview last week with one of these clones. It's spreading.

Posted by: Infidel at March 13, 2017 04:17 PM (uKRys)

78 Hope you feel better soon, Vic. Keeping you in my prayers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:17 PM (PY9jH)

79 SO.

Old and busted - 'nood'

New hotness - Me 'FIRST' ! and Me 'SECOND'! and Me '73rd'!

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 13, 2017 04:17 PM (/hasf)

80
After 30 years of employment I never met a graduate from the UWM.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 13, 2017 04:08 PM (mpXpK)

Like Berkeley, it's the flagship of the state colleges and an excellent school for STEM majors. The Liberal Arts students are as crazy as Berkeley students.

Milo Y. gave a talk at UW-Milwaukee in December and got some screaming protesters but was still able to give his talk. At UW -Madison, he would have inspired riots.

If I remember correctly, UW Madison was in some trouble a few years back because of the relatively low number of Wisconsinites they admitted compared to other state schools, which seems sorta wrong when you consider that state schools were founded primarily to benefit the natives of that state. Madison accepts more out-of-staters and foreigners than the other schools and they said they needed to do so because otherwise they'd end up with a bunch of lily-white cheeseheads and what diverse multiculturalist lefty wants that?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:18 PM (ZM2xo)

81 While I'm thinking of love -
Love is thinking for me
And the Baker will come -
And the Baker, I'll be.

Posted by: The Small Faces at March 13, 2017 04:18 PM (eXSOZ)

82 The process:

1. Get to the outcome I want.
2. Grope at my perineum in search of a principle.
3. Fail to find it.
4. See 1.

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at March 13, 2017 04:18 PM (5JlYa)

83 I have a nephew who went to UNC Wilmington. It was nothing like this.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 13, 2017 04:18 PM (mpXpK)

84 In academia for my sins I sometimes had to teach darlings two-on-one, which is pretty much like playing chess with a golden retriever.

To add a little interest to the dire proceedings, I used to see how many times I could roll them on a given topic through use of body language and minimal verbal cues that they were wrong.

"X is greater than Y."

"Greater? (eyebrows raised)

"No, I meant less than Y."

Frown.

"Well, it could greater than Y, in a lesser sense."

"Lesser sense?"

"I mean, it could less, but in a greater sense."

My record was six roll overs for one student in the course of an hour.

The point of the exercise: don't try to read me. Think the issue through for yourself, reach a conclusion you believe, and then stick to it unless and until further evidence is adduced that makes you reconsider. Or prepare for a grueling hour's tutorial.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2017 04:19 PM (SRKgf)

85 Until the robopocalypse.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 13, 2017 04:09 PM (hLRSq)

Speaking of, I finished my Horizon Zero Dawn playthrough last night and the driving events of the plot are so full of hubris that I found it completely believable. It's very much oh this can never go horribly awry how dare you think that and hahaha Nemesis rides a pale horse.

Also the stuff they sprinkled through for the sequel was well crafted.

Excellent, excellent game. It's right below Witcher 3 which is a high compliment indeed.

Also you can shoot robot dinosaurs in the face. I mean come on. That's awesome.

Posted by: alexthechick - Parallama platoon ahoy! at March 13, 2017 04:19 PM (mf5HN)

86 Actual fascism: A collectivist system of government organized on a national level and exalting the nation and its purported ideals, generally a variant of socialism that retains private ownership of the means of production but not its control.

Lazy definition of fascism: A government that oppresses people.

Liberal definition of fascism: A government that doesn't oppress people we don't like.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2017 04:20 PM (wB8Tg)

87 Freedom is just fine, but only for the "right" people.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 13, 2017 04:20 PM (0mRoj)

88 As Adam Carolla sarcastically jokes when he is confronted with an obvious contradictory error in his opinion

Yeah but still....

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 13, 2017 04:21 PM (sNESL)

89 Excellent, excellent game. It's right below Witcher 3 which is a high compliment indeed.

Also you can shoot robot dinosaurs in the face. I mean come on. That's awesome.
Posted by: alexthechick - Parallama platoon ahoy! at March 13, 2017 04:19 PM (mf5HN)

Sweet.

I'm chomping at the bit for Mass Effect Andromeda in about a week.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 13, 2017 04:21 PM (KUaJL)

90 If I remember correctly, UW Madison was in some
trouble a few years back because of the relatively low number of
Wisconsinites they admitted compared to other state schools, which seems
sorta wrong when you consider that state schools were founded primarily
to benefit the natives of that state. Madison accepts more
out-of-staters and foreigners than the other schools and they said they
needed to do so because otherwise they'd end up with a bunch of
lily-white cheeseheads and what diverse multiculturalist lefty wants
that?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:18 PM (ZM2xo)
The received wisdom in academia is that Madison's problems started in the 60s when they admitted a whole bunch of students from New York, in particular, many of whom were radical indeed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2017 04:21 PM (SRKgf)

91 Does it sound better to call it "forcing people to enter contracts against their will", "It's not slavery-slavery", or "indentured servitude".

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 13, 2017 04:21 PM (P/kVC)

92 Consistency is a stone cold bitch.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2017 04:21 PM (geAkB)

93
I blame 'pot'.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 13, 2017 04:22 PM (/hasf)

94 Milo Y. gave a talk at UW-Milwaukee in December and got some screaming protesters but was still able to give his talk. At UW -Madison, he would have inspired riots.

--------

Speaking of, was this incident discussed? Mark Steyn talked about it today on Rush & it was the first I've heard about it. Middlebury College students assault their professor for inviting kinda rightist speaker to speak on campus.

http://tinyurl.com/hjdu7xp

Posted by: josephistan at March 13, 2017 04:22 PM (7HtZB)

95 Sorry you're still feeling like crap, Vic. You're in my prayers.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:22 PM (ZM2xo)

96 Derp.

Posted by: UW-Madison student at March 13, 2017 04:22 PM (HgMAr)

97 Speaking of, was this incident discussed? Mark Steyn talked about it today on Rush & it was the first I've heard about it. Middlebury College students assault their professor for inviting kinda rightist speaker to speak on campus.

http://tinyurl.com/hjdu7xp

Posted by: josephistan at March 13, 2017 04:22 PM (7HtZB)

Tucker Carlson did a segment on it a few weeks back.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:23 PM (ZM2xo)

98 Oh God, Thank you!

TWENTY INCHES of Global warming for NYC tonight.

Al Gore must be in the house.

Posted by: Sam at March 13, 2017 04:23 PM (lEhiV)

99 And this happens every time a GOP candidate wants to use a popular song with his/her campaign. The jerky singer makes a statement announcing that he/she doesn't want their song used because political differences.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 13, 2017 03:58 PM (NOIQH)

YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT.

Posted by: Rolling Bone at March 13, 2017 04:23 PM (cJswI)

100 >>I blame 'pot'.

A whole field of WhackyWeedus!

Posted by: Josephus at March 13, 2017 04:23 PM (HF/nI)

101 Dear God. Is Madison home to some Cult of the Dumb?

The most important subject almost every person interviewed failed was basic logic and truthful conclusions.

These people don't want democracy. They want autocracy and they either don't know it or won't acknowledge it.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 13, 2017 03:59 PM (gjdGN)

Go to virtually any college campus (besides Hillsdale and maybe Liberty University) and the responses would sadly be the same.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2017 04:23 PM (geAkB)

102 Tom Ford gets nooooo respect.

Wasn't he--the she-- that opted out of designing for Melania?

Posted by: Holmes at March 13, 2017 04:23 PM (fi5nC)

103 That video was so cratic.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 13, 2017 04:23 PM (FtrY1)

104
Also you can shoot robot dinosaurs in the face. I mean come on. That's awesome.
Posted by: alexthechick - Parallama platoon ahoy! at March 13, 2017 04:19 PM (mf5HN)

Don't forget taking over and riding them.

I just loved how the SJWs were all "woo hoo girl power, suck it male gamers," You know because male gamers have never played as chicks before...

And then it went to "This appropriates native american culture. How dare you!!!"

Posted by: buzzion at March 13, 2017 04:24 PM (z/Ubi)

105 UW Madison is a wretched hive of progressive scum and villainy.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 13, 2017 04:24 PM (0mRoj)

106 My son's campus is about 17% active duty military and veterans. The SJW's avoid them like the plague, which is a blessing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:25 PM (PY9jH)

107 I was being wry.. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't..

But, guarantee you THEY will think they are part of the intelligentsia..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 13, 2017 04:16 PM (so+oy)
Yep, I knew you were. I just wanted to deploy my latest macro-aggression, which is characterizing everyone as a "person of X," to mock the leftists' bizarre usage with "people of color," while deprecating as racist the linguistically equivalent "colored people."
So around liberals I'll agree that someone is tall, saying "Yes, he's a person of height," and a sunny day is a "day of sun." After a few of those they get really annoyed at the mockery.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2017 04:25 PM (SRKgf)

108 Also you can shoot robot dinosaurs in the face. I mean come on. That's awesome.
Posted by: alexthechick - Parallama platoon ahoy! at March 13, 2017 04:19 PM (mf5HN)

*tear rolls down scaly cheek*

Posted by: The Ravage at March 13, 2017 04:25 PM (8nWyX)

109 If a Satanist wants to perform a ritual sacrifice on the quad, would that be OK?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 04:25 PM (6Ll1u)

110
Today's Most Interest Though Of The Day:

There are people alive today, perhaps your children or grandchildren, who will be alive to see the year 2100.

Conversely, You will not be alive to see 2100. And most us here, although only 29 today, will not be alive to see 2050.

Posted by: typical stupid fucking moonbat at March 13, 2017 04:26 PM (LWYzG)

111 Sweet.

I'm chomping at the bit for Mass Effect Andromeda in about a week.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 13, 2017 04:21 PM (KUaJL)

I know, right?

One of the great things about Horizon is that when you finish the main quest line, you get the achievement for that and then they load you back in right before you start the final quest so you can go back and get all the rest of the trophies and finish up all the collectibles without having to start a new game and you keep your gear and all your xp from finishing the quest.

Now that's a nice player friendly feature.

It's very replayable even with the main quests done because shooting robot dinosaurs in the face with arrows is just really zen.

Posted by: alexthechick - Parallama platoon ahoy! at March 13, 2017 04:26 PM (mf5HN)

112 If a Satanist wants to perform a ritual sacrifice on the quad, would that be OK?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 04:25 PM (6Ll1u)

Absolutely... because, inclusiveness.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2017 04:26 PM (geAkB)

113 I blame 'pot'.
Posted by: Mortimer

Participation trophies

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2017 04:26 PM (T2Zv1)

114 They don't call Madison Kremlin East for nothing.

Posted by: bound4er at March 13, 2017 04:26 PM (2sVmX)

115 Before Justice Kennedy wrote his fortune cookie gay marriage opinion, a few states had passed gay marriage legislation but these statutes routinely included provisions like Georgia's Religious Liberty Bill. Thus, gays could marry but if you said you had a religious objection you didn't have to bake them a cake, etc. This is how NY's 2011 legislation works.

So now, thanks to Kennedy's 57-state legislation, we don't have a modicum of balance. And some gays have proven to be lousy winners.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 13, 2017 04:27 PM (SIY7D)

116 109 If a Satanist wants to perform a ritual sacrifice on the quad, would that be OK?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 04:25 PM (6Ll1u)

***************

Is he gay?

Posted by: University of Wisconsin student at March 13, 2017 04:27 PM (fi5nC)

117 I've gotta say, my vagina is giving me mixed signals on this one.

Posted by: Cate Blanchett, Idiot at March 13, 2017 04:27 PM (8ZskC)

118
Off the top of my head, I can think of about 30+
things I would want put on a cake and then surrounded by gorgeous
flowers which will then be photographed that would make the people doing
all of those things have the damn vapors.

Where are you going to find a cake big enough to fit Kate Upton and Christina Hendricks?

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 13, 2017 04:27 PM (fKWf6)

119 91 Does it sound better to call it "forcing people to enter contracts against their will", "It's not slavery-slavery", or "indentured servitude".
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 13, 2017 04:21 PM (P/kVC)

---

So totally not the same thing. Slaves have no choice, man. A business owner always has the option of losing his livelihood.

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at March 13, 2017 04:27 PM (5JlYa)

120 Cost of Attendance In-state: $25,294 Out-of-state: $47,544
Tuition and Fees In-state: $10,488 Out-of-state: $32,738
Room and Board $10,446
Books and Supplies $1,200
Other Expenses $3,160

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 13, 2017 04:27 PM (VdICR)

121 I mean--is the Satanist a transsexual?

Posted by: University of Wisconsin student at March 13, 2017 04:27 PM (fi5nC)

122
Muh dik.

Posted by: Zombie Michael Brown, a Gentleman and a Scholar at March 13, 2017 04:27 PM (BWrNO)

123
and, with my correct hosiery on now, I present today's Old English word of the day:

nitsqueeger

What was a nitsqueeger.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 04:27 PM (LWYzG)

124 Think the issue through for yourself, reach a
conclusion you believe, and then stick to it unless and until further
evidence is adduced that makes you reconsider.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2017 04:19 PM (SRKgf)

FASCIST OPPRESSOR!

Posted by: SJW...Always On The Lookout! at March 13, 2017 04:28 PM (rF0hx)

125 How shit, they are saying the snow will fall from 2-4 inches AN HOUR!

That is a lot of snow, da huh.

Posted by: Sam at March 13, 2017 04:28 PM (lEhiV)

126 If a Satanist wants to perform a ritual sacrifice on the quad, would that be OK?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 04:25 PM (6Ll1u)

Drudge, I believe, linked a story about a group of Satanists on the campus of Clemson Freaking University, that want to protest the opening of a chapel featuring a memorial to students who died before graduation, by sacrificing a lamb and burning Bibles.

Clemson University. My late dad's alma mater (when it was a military college). My great grandfather was a member of the first graduating class (have his picture on a wall).

They must be spinning in their graves.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:28 PM (PY9jH)

127 This is much like the remake of the Clinton-Trump debate done by actors, but with genders switched.

The "youth" (and left) are hard wired by shock-like indoctrination to hate the right. (the shock being the vehement hate they get when not PC). So the PC punks can be a little logical until the logic is applied to the deplorable and irredeemable non-humans. The infidel right has no equal rights, they have been judged guilty of ... everything.

The stammering is a Trump Derangement Syndrome symptom, a form of cognitive dissonance. If we had President Hillary, they would not stammer so much, because the deplorables/infidels would be in chains by now. But a funny thing happened on the way to the forum.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 13, 2017 04:29 PM (BrMft)

128
So how does that feel?

You and I won't see 2050, let alone 2100.

But there are little Shits alive today who will.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 04:29 PM (LWYzG)

129 Freedom is tough for the snowflake.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2017 04:29 PM (39g3+)

130 And in two more years they'l be J-school graduates who will take it upon themselves to lecture you knuckle-draggers in the ways of correct thinking.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 13, 2017 04:29 PM (8ZskC)

131 YA28AP (Yet Another 28th Amendment Proposal)

Freedom from the dis-associated.

Posted by: DaveA at March 13, 2017 04:30 PM (FhXTo)

132 And in two more years they'l be J-school graduates
who will take it upon themselves to lecture you knuckle-draggers in the
ways of correct thinking.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 13, 2017 04:29 PM (8ZskC)

Well, Mika tells us it's the media's job to tell us what to think.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:30 PM (PY9jH)

133 I find these types of videos both depressing and distressing - to see and contemplate how vastly and deeply these kids have been indoctrinated to this point.
You can almost see their propagandized computer brains shorting out given circumstances outside of their realm of knowledge.

________________

I for one see the pause and gears turning for 1 reason - they are starting to have a realization that what they believe IS stupid.

Give them 5-10 years outside that college life hellhole - when reality slaps them in the head, they usually will change their tunes.

Posted by: Fox at March 13, 2017 04:30 PM (DVC2D)

134 The video is even sadder when you realize that those shown were the only ones who didn't break down crying when asked the follow up question

Posted by: Mark E at March 13, 2017 04:31 PM (vVg5A)

135 a story about a group of Satanists on the campus of Clemson Freaking
University, that want to protest

====

At this point, that's what they pretty much ALL are.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 13, 2017 04:31 PM (/hasf)

136 If a Satanist wants to perform a ritual sacrifice on the quad, would that be OK?

That has to be, as long as it doesn't otherwise violate local ordinances and school rules (like against killing livestock). But performing some goofy childish ritual, okay, knock yourself out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2017 04:31 PM (39g3+)

137 I'm chomping at the bit for Mass Effect Andromeda in about a week.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 13, 2017 04:21 PM (KUaJL)

This is me not trusting EA not to **** it up. This is the company that killed and gutted Leapfrog, Origin, and Bioware, wore them as skin suits and built toilets with their skeletons.

I *want* it to be good, but so far the reviews make the interface sound *awful*, with dialogue wheels and semi-railed combat and basically everything that's wrong with Consolitis.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2017 04:31 PM (wB8Tg)

138 There world is "Binary". Something is either Mandatory, or Forbidden. That is it, they are taught what to love and what to hate. No maybe's or on the other hand.

Posted by: Paladin at March 13, 2017 04:31 PM (hxLER)

139 "Dear God. Is Madison home to some Cult of the Dumb?"

No, it is home to people between the ages of 18-22 who are not wise, who are not prone to thinking things through to the obvious conclusion, and who emote easily. Much like people that age with no real responsibilities are anywhere.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 13, 2017 04:32 PM (hLRSq)

140 Going to be a long election night in Pennsylvania in 2020. They're still finding dead ~~bodies~~ voters at construction site.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 13, 2017 04:32 PM (ZFUt7)

141 It depends on what your definition of "is" is

super smart

Posted by: ed gibbon at March 13, 2017 04:32 PM (6XT4H)

142 Bigots Against Bigotry, Unite!

Fuckwits.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at March 13, 2017 04:32 PM (4bjXi)

143 *tear rolls down scaly cheek*
Posted by: The Ravage at March 13, 2017 04:25 PM (8nWyX)

Fake robot dinosaurs, my pretties.

The bad stupid icky people thought they could make fake yous and that was just not on and they got theirs, good and hard and not in the happy fun way.

Posted by: alexthechick - Parallama platoon ahoy! at March 13, 2017 04:32 PM (mf5HN)

144 If the Satanist is George Clooney--then I guess I'm okay with it.

Posted by: University of Wisconsin Student at March 13, 2017 04:32 PM (fi5nC)

145 If you're a Satanist chances are you're just a weenie who wants to dress up and stick your finger in the eye of the Christianizes. You don't actually believe in Satan except as the supposed epitome of freedom and personal license. and IMO, you already belong to Satan-you just don't realize he's the father of lies.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2017 04:32 PM (fDdVG)

146 You can almost see their propagandized computer brains shorting out given circumstances outside of their realm of knowledge.

Capt. Kirk could permanently incapacitate any one of them without even breaking rhythm while shagging a green alien chick.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 13, 2017 04:33 PM (8ZskC)

147 It's astounding how they are utterly stumped by the last question about the Christian photographer. That the contradiction never even entered their heads before - Lord, so much for inquisitive young minds....

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:33 PM (ZM2xo)

148 If the test of an intelligent machine is that it is self-ware, are these young people not sentient humans?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 13, 2017 04:33 PM (EnKk6)

149 Liberals did such a 180 flip on religious exemption once they found they could persecute Christians.

They used to support nonsense like letting Indians smoke peyote for their alleged "religious" ceremonies. We were all supposed to ignore established federal drug laws because Native Americans simply must get high.

But a mainstream Christian simply doesn't want to participate in a gay wedding? Well they need to be run out of business for that.

Posted by: Maritime at March 13, 2017 04:34 PM (D3P4S)

150 Jane, that's exactly why I asked that question. Seems unimaginable, but give it time and it will spread.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 04:34 PM (6Ll1u)

151 Also, the Hunkering Down has commenced.

*pours zinfandel*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 13, 2017 04:34 PM (EnKk6)

152 107 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2017 04:25 PM (SRKgf)

I do the same thing. My favorite is correcting their use of "redneck" with "Neck of Red".

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at March 13, 2017 04:34 PM (i6shs)

153 If a Satanist wants to perform a ritual sacrifice on the quad, would that be OK?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 04:25 PM (6Ll1u)

Can we point and laugh at him?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 13, 2017 04:34 PM (hLRSq)

154 UM-W: $11k/yr stupid.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 13, 2017 04:34 PM (oVJmc)

155 ritual sacrifice

*************

Well if the Satanist is Susan Sarandon and she's burning her bra--for mankind....I dunno, I could be cool with it.

Posted by: University of Wisconsin Student at March 13, 2017 04:34 PM (fi5nC)

156 126 Clemson University. My late dad's alma mater (when
it was a military college). My great grandfather was a member of the
first graduating class (have his picture on a wall).

They must be spinning in their graves.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:28 PM (PY9jH)

I have found a lot of stories that said they were "planning" on doing this, but NONE that said they followed through with it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 13, 2017 04:35 PM (mpXpK)

157 This video must accompany the post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuYbDP2kDfg

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 13, 2017 04:35 PM (8ZskC)

158 So, like, you know, it is okay to discriminate against someone based on their creed, like, if it is not a protected creed and stuff. You know?

I hope that clears thing up for you.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at March 13, 2017 04:35 PM (4bjXi)

159 Then they're asked if a Christian photographer should have the right to refuse to take photos at a gay wedding.

No! Because they're all racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamaphobic h8rs!!! Wasn't an answer?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2017 04:35 PM (493sH)

160 145 If you're a Satanist chances are you're just a weenie who wants to dress up and stick your finger in the eye of the Christianizes. You don't actually believe in Satan except as the supposed epitome of freedom and personal license. and IMO, you already belong to Satan-you just don't realize he's the father of lies.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2017 04:32 PM (fDdVG

Yeah, I don't believe "Satanists" really believe in Satan. They're atheists who want to poke religious people in the eyes by behaving in a juvenile and offensive matter - they don't think Satan is any more real than God.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:35 PM (ZM2xo)

161 So these kids are paying six figures to turn out like this???

Posted by: navybrat at March 13, 2017 04:36 PM (w7KSn)

162 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2017 04:31 PM (wB8Tg)
I don't necessarily trust them not to fuck it up, but I've been managing my expectations. Limiting my trailer views, etc. etc. to keep hype down. If it's good or even stellar (heh!), then I'll enjoy it more, and if it's a disappointment - back to catching up on my huge backlog of things which includes Witcher 3.

Posted by: Sporkatus at March 13, 2017 04:36 PM (eXSOZ)

163
I have found a lot of stories that said they were "planning" on doing this, but NONE that said they followed through with it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 13, 2017 04:35 PM (mpXpK)

They haven't yet had their stupid ritual. But they've been advertising it on campus.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:36 PM (PY9jH)

164 Like Mr. Spock would say, this is fascinating.

I think most seasoned lib career politicians *know* that they are not supporting an objective moral principle, but are choosing an arbitrary side.

But naive, SJW college imbeciles, they are brainwashed into supporting this biased system, but it does not dawn upon them that the system is inconsistent. They have some subconscious awareness that they cannot articulate, that true moral principles are *universal*.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 13, 2017 04:36 PM (vRcUp)

165 This is me not trusting EA not to **** it up. This is the company that killed and gutted Leapfrog, Origin, and Bioware, wore them as skin suits and built toilets with their skeletons.

I *want* it to be good, but so far the reviews make the interface sound *awful*, with dialogue wheels and semi-railed combat and basically everything that's wrong with Consolitis.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2017 04:31 PM (wB8Tg)

Agree. I'd mentioned being excited about the game to my fiance about a week ago, and then had to backpedal and give her a 30 minute lecture on why on no uncertain terms should she preorder the game for me, because the industry has gotten into the habit of pushing out unfinished products and relying on patches in the first few weeks to fix the work they should have done before letting people buy the damn thing, so I never want a preordered game on principle.

I intend to wait a day or two to gauge general public interest before rushing home and buying it.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 13, 2017 04:37 PM (KUaJL)

166 Can a pro-choice vegan consume "aborted" veal? I mean, it's just a fetus, not a living thing, right?

Posted by: mikeski at March 13, 2017 04:11 PM (JmGsr)

That would be a good scene in a movie, like the vampire flic that has a wharehouse full of people in big blood bags - a smug vegan waves to the vast internal expanse of a warehouse, full of neat lines of live cattle hanging with harnesses, plugged into feeding funnels, slowing moving from the seeding station to the veal extraction station,
"We Vegans have found a way to enjoy tender delicious veal without harming a single living creature."

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 13, 2017 04:37 PM (P/kVC)

167 A new law proposed in Madison...

How can you be so Constitutionally-challenged? It's like we put our idiots into legislatures because it's the only way they'll be able to feed themselves.

Posted by: t-bird at March 13, 2017 04:37 PM (29QcC)

168 I had Consolitus when I was a kid. They took them out and I got ice cream.

Posted by: Little Joey Biden at March 13, 2017 04:38 PM (FtrY1)

169 If you're a Satanist chances are you're just a weenie who wants to dress up and stick your finger in the eye of the Christianizes

Usually. Some are Wiccan variants who beleive in absolute freedom and view Satan as a rebel against moral laws and restraints. Most are just angry emo types or crazy, but they aren't only anti-Christian. Just mostly.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2017 04:38 PM (39g3+)

170 Evangelical Atheists are exponentially more irritating than evangelical Christians.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at March 13, 2017 04:38 PM (4bjXi)

171 How does anybody get entangled in this obvious trap? By being too honest?

My first go-to response would be a scheduling conflict. Look I'm a booked solid thru July 2088. Can't do it, we won't be available until after your life event has passed by. So sorry.

Posted by: Fritz at March 13, 2017 04:38 PM (YAPkP)

172 Much like people that age with no real responsibilities are anywhere.

Parenting failure. I have sons 19, 22, 25 (and 13), all of whom are very likely to throw out the logical fallacy or the slippery slope red flag. They have to be taught young and parents need to teach them using logic, not using "because I said so." Demand they look ahead, ie what are the potential consequences of that act/tattoo/traffic ticket/missing condom/crappy grade/whatever. They'll still make mistakes, but they aren't learning analytical thinking in school anymore. In fact most tests are now scantrons, there is no opportunity for logical argument.

Posted by: dagny at March 13, 2017 04:38 PM (Mc+44)

173
Give them 5-10 years outside that college life hellhole - when reality slaps them in the head, they usually will change their tunes.

Posted by: Fox at March 13, 2017 04:30 PM (DVC2D)

Conservatives have been saying that since the 1980's at least - they ceded education to the left because "they'll grow out of it once they're in the real world."

The election results show that a lot of people don't. Some of the wealthiest 'burbs around here are the most liberal.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:38 PM (ZM2xo)

174 It's astounding how they are utterly stumped by the last question about the Christian photographer. That the contradiction never even entered their heads before

In a quality institution of higher learning they'd have the tools to handle this kind of thing, have seen through it already, and been ready with an answer even if they'd never been confronted with it. That's the entire point of a college or university, to teach young people the ways and means of thinking things through for themselves - how to think, in the most proper terms.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2017 04:40 PM (39g3+)

175 161
So these kids are paying six figures to turn out like this???

Posted by: navybrat at March 13, 2017 04:36 PM (w7KSn)

No. They want you and I to pay the six figures so they can turn out like that.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 13, 2017 04:40 PM (jxbfJ)

176 So these kids are paying six figures to turn out like this???

Bernie Sanders said that a college education should be free, and now you know why.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 13, 2017 04:41 PM (8ZskC)

177 "Capt. Kirk could permanently incapacitate any one of them without even breaking rhythm while shagging a green alien chick."

One of the more fascinating aspects of watching the remastered HD episodes of Star Trek is just how obvious the stunt doubles are. Shatner's double should be in the opening credits.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 13, 2017 04:41 PM (OD2ni)

178 Gee. I could have had a V8.

Posted by: zombie paul revere at March 13, 2017 04:41 PM (nlbfN)

179 If a Satanist wants to perform a ritual sacrifice on the quad, would that be OK?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 04:25 PM (6Ll1u)

Only if the sacrifice is a transFemale and you have the proper permit from the dean.

Posted by: gNewt at March 13, 2017 04:41 PM (cJswI)

180 Christians? They're bad right?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2017 04:41 PM (O2RFr)

181 If the service I request of a 'creative' (i.e. Starbucks waitress) may or may not be considered sex trafficking in less enlightened jurisdictions, are my rights to said service still sacred?

Posted by: t-bird at March 13, 2017 04:41 PM (8zL5i)

182 In case you have any teeth left to gnash, this story can remedy the problem

http://tinyurl.com/j72bnls

A 35-year-old illegal alien, twice released by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) under the Obama administration, reportedly shot a 15-year-old girl, killing her and their unborn child with whom she was 9 months pregnant, the Houston Chronicle reported on March 9.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2017 04:42 PM (39g3+)

183 I think it's pretty simple.

Liberal fascism is good.

Conseravtive/ free will is bad.

Posted by: shibumi at March 13, 2017 04:42 PM (FkAXz)

184 When these people get out of school they move to liberal enclaves that support their meal illness, they live their whole lives thinking that they are right about everything.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 04:43 PM (6Ll1u)

185 Note to the kidz pretending to be "Satanists": You may not really be interested in Satan, but Satan is always and forever very much interested in you.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at March 13, 2017 04:43 PM (ihUt+)

186 If the students were as disingenuous as their mentors / brainwashers they would not have stumble on their response.

They would have said that the difference was the discrimination by the majority on a minority and thus it was okay to force the majority to provide the business to the minority.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 13, 2017 04:43 PM (sNESL)

187 Bernie Sanders said that a college education should be free, and now you know why.

Well they say you should only pay what something is worth, so...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2017 04:43 PM (39g3+)

188 173: right. just look at any h.r. department in any big corporation. the are all sjw snowflakes. they don't change. the business conforms to them, or else.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 13, 2017 04:43 PM (KP5rU)

189 We are standing on the slippery edge of an abyss and these fools keep pushing and adding ~~oil~~ K-Y.
Fixed.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 13, 2017 04:43 PM (nlbfN)

190 A 35-year-old illegal alien, twice released by Immigration and Customs
Enforcement (ICE) under the Obama administration, reportedly shot a
15-year-old girl, killing her and their unborn child with whom she was 9
months pregnant
===

It's Satanists, all the way down.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 13, 2017 04:44 PM (/hasf)

191 Christians? They're bad right?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2017 04:41 PM (O2RFr)

SJWs: They're the worst. Unlike open minded progressive Muslims.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2017 04:44 PM (493sH)

192 How shit, they are saying the snow will fall from 2-4 inches AN HOUR!

That is a lot of snow, da huh.

Posted by: Sam at March 13, 2017 04:28 PM (lEhiV)

Probably be a thousand car wrecks as everyone rushes out to get milk, bread, beer, and smokes.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 13, 2017 04:44 PM (P/kVC)

193 CBO releases Ryancare score.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hu6j4cn

After obamacare, which Ryancare is designed to protect, has double insurance rates doubled several times since passage, Ryancare will still produce 20% rate increases for the next two years and then provide 'relief' of around 10% by 2026.

What a winner. Folks should be falling all over each other to support this deal.

Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 13, 2017 04:45 PM (3Liv/)

194 I intend to wait a day or two to gauge general public interest before rushing home and buying it.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 13, 2017 04:37 PM (KUaJL)

It will be longer than that for me, even assuming the UI isn't so broken it requires patches and aftermarket help (hello, Bethesda).

I'm beginning to think that, at least on PC, the UI should be 3rd Party. Very few devs have enough flexibility in their design, and more and more designs lock out more and more controls, or combine them in really annoying ways, because it's easier to design for one controller and then just map it as an afterthought to others.

Aside from that, I'm pretty much going to have to spoil the whole game before I trust that it isn't just a big middle finger, as so many have been (Far Cry 2, Deus Ex 3, Mass Effect 3, etc).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 13, 2017 04:45 PM (wB8Tg)

195 188
173: right. just look at any h.r. department in any big corporation. the
are all sjw snowflakes. they don't change. the business conforms to
them, or else.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 13, 2017 04:43 PM (KP5rU)

My old company got rid of the entire HR department except a few big wigs in the home office.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 13, 2017 04:45 PM (mpXpK)

196 A 35-year-old illegal alien, twice released by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) under the Obama administration, reportedly shot a 15-year-old girl, killing her and their unborn child with whom she was 9 months pregnant

It was an accident. He was just shooting at a seal.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 13, 2017 04:45 PM (8ZskC)

197 Ugh. In about 20 minutes, I'm going to trudge through the snowdrifts to get home. Just last Friday, I was happily drinking Pina Coladas at the pool in Scottsdale and 2 f's I did not give.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:45 PM (ZM2xo)

198 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2017 04:38 PM (39g3+)

Wiccans i know don't believe in Satan. They believe in a male God and a Goddess or they're Wiccans who worship Diana.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2017 04:45 PM (fDdVG)

199 How shit, they are saying the snow will fall from 2-4 inches AN HOUR!

Global warming!

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2017 04:45 PM (O2RFr)

200
I do the same thing. My favorite is correcting their use of "redneck" with "Neck of Red".
===

Person of Trailer

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 13, 2017 04:45 PM (/hasf)

201 My first go-to response would be a scheduling
conflict. Look I'm a booked solid thru July 2088. Can't do it, we won't
be available until after your life event has passed by. So sorry.

Posted by: Fritz at March 13, 2017 04:38 PM (YAPkP)

It is also a sin to lie... and really, why should we have to?

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2017 04:45 PM (geAkB)

202 Speaking of SJW idiots, Ashley Judd got skeered at a Wildcats game when she let someone take her picture and he turned out to be a Trump supporter.

She LITERALLY had to turn and ask her uncle, who is a pastor and a Dem, to HUG her.

She said she only wished she'd had to presence of mind to tell the Trump supporter he'd "voted for the KKK."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:46 PM (PY9jH)

203 You knew it was hitting the fan when they dropped "personnel" and picked up "human resources".

Posted by: gNewt at March 13, 2017 04:46 PM (cJswI)

204 "My old company got rid of the entire HR department except a few big wigs in the home office.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party"

Who is left to hold meetings in the conference room? I swear, the HR people are always having meetings.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 13, 2017 04:46 PM (OD2ni)

205 reportedly shot a 15-year-old girl, killing her and their unborn child

Well, how else was he supposed to turn his life around? Sheesh!

Posted by: t-bird at March 13, 2017 04:47 PM (ysprU)

206 What a winner. Folks should be falling all over each other to support this deal.

I don't trust the CBO... They lied about Odumbocare making it look way better than it was.. so...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2017 04:47 PM (O2RFr)

207 >>Probably be a thousand car wrecks as everyone rushes out to get milk, bread, beer, and smokes.

Done, done and done. Now I'm relying on you morons to get some rest so you can entertain me while I'm trapped by snowmaggedon.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2017 04:47 PM (/tuJf)

208 Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 13, 2017 04:44 PM (P/kVC)

They did it already. The supermarket was jammed today! I had to get cat food. It was crazy. There were no loves of sliced bread. I guess if you get in a snowed in you are too traumatized to slice bread on your own.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2017 04:47 PM (fDdVG)

209 She said she only wished she'd had to presence of mind to tell the Trump supporter he'd "voted for the KKK."

Good lord... Time for an intervention...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2017 04:48 PM (O2RFr)

210 I swear, the HR people are always having meetings.

It's more of a donut distribution system.

Posted by: t-bird at March 13, 2017 04:48 PM (/cksx)

211 Wiccans i know don't believe in Satan. They believe in a male God and a Goddess or they're Wiccans who worship Diana.

Right, its not wiccan, but its a related pagan-type religion with a lot of the same concepts of freedom. Wiccans are more "do good" and Satanists are more "just don't hurt people." But in terms of practice, personality, and culture, they're not far off from each other. Same sorts of people, same attitudes about life, etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2017 04:48 PM (39g3+)

212 Conservatives have been saying that since the 1980's at least -- they
ceded education to the left because "they'll grow out of it once they're
in the real world."
Chalk up another victory for the Weekly Standard/National Review wing of the GOP.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 13, 2017 04:48 PM (nlbfN)

213
202 Speaking of SJW idiots, Ashley Judd got skeered at a Wildcats game when she let someone take her picture and he turned out to be a Trump supporter"

How did she know? Did he announce it after he took the picture?

Or did she just then notice the horns and tail that all us Trump supporters have?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:48 PM (ZM2xo)

214 The MS13 members arrested recently supposedly killed a young sex slave for knocking down the leaders Satan shrine. This evil needs to be purged from this country.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 04:49 PM (6Ll1u)

215 Never before in my lifetime has it snowed ever before!!! Global warming is so real how can Trump deny this????

Posted by: New Yorker at March 13, 2017 04:49 PM (39g3+)

216 Paul Ryan is a sneaky, disingenuous, rat-bastard, douche-canoe. For the record.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 13, 2017 04:49 PM (Ivjge)

217
After obamacare, which Ryancare is designed to protect, has double insurance rates doubled several times since passage, Ryancare will still produce 20% rate increases for the next two years and then provide 'relief' of around 10% by 2026.

What a winner. Folks should be falling all over each other to support this deal.
---

Well, Ryan is a Democrat, so really, what do you expect? Of course he put together something that made King O's plan look better?

/wait, he's not a Democrat? Are you sure? REALLY SURE?

Posted by: shibumi at March 13, 2017 04:49 PM (FkAXz)

218 Done, done and done. Now I'm relying on you morons to get some rest so you can entertain me while I'm trapped by snowmaggedon.

Done. As soon as I finish shoveling the sunshine off the driveway.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2017 04:49 PM (T2Zv1)

219 There were no loves of sliced bread.
How you doin'?

Posted by: swiss-cheese f#cker at March 13, 2017 04:50 PM (nlbfN)

220 I'm sure the New York-based media will breathlessly regale us with tales of the snow storm.

Meanwhile, we're still waiting since October to have leaning/dangerous trees removed from the hurricane, and just today, a neighbor is finally having his roof replaced.

But we're knuckle dragging mouth breathers down here, so it's okay.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:50 PM (PY9jH)

221 Who is left to hold meetings in the conference room? I swear, the HR people are always having meetings.
Posted by: Benji Carver at March 13, 2017 04:46 PM (OD2ni)

I'm cool with that as long as I get to Zoidberg the leftover bagels as everyone's leaving.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 13, 2017 04:50 PM (8nWyX)

222 "Wiccans are more "do good" and Satanists are more "just don't hurt people."

I used to tend bar with a gal that claimed to be a Wiccan and some of her co-religionists used to hang out. My impression: weird but harmless.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 13, 2017 04:51 PM (OD2ni)

223 216; those are his good qualities.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 13, 2017 04:51 PM (KP5rU)

224 Over at ZeroHedge, problems with Netherlands and Turkey are escalating.

Turkey is going to Unfriend Netherlands.

/what next, will they unfollow them on Twitter?

Posted by: shibumi at March 13, 2017 04:51 PM (FkAXz)

225 Posted by: swiss-cheese f#cker at March 13, 2017 04:50 PM (nlbfN)

LOL. They love sliced bread alright. It's the bread that you have to manipulate with your strong arm that they despised.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2017 04:51 PM (fDdVG)

226 Chalk up another victory for the Weekly Standard/National Review wing of the GOP.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 13, 2017 04:48 PM (nlbfN)

To be fair, both publication have published a mountain of anti-PC on campus essays during the past few decades. That's how I found out how crazy things were becoming - even back in the '80's and '90's.

The problem is they're content to write their essays decrying PC - but when push comes to shove, they side with the GOPe who is scared to death someone will call them "racist."

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:51 PM (ZM2xo)

227 >>... shot a
15-year-old girl, killing her and their unborn child with whom she was 9
months pregnant.

Ah, see he was indulging in some "immigrant privilege" before shooting the poor girl.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-03-08.html#read_more

Posted by: Lizzy at March 13, 2017 04:52 PM (NOIQH)

228 A 35-year-old illegal alien, twice released by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) under the Obama administration, reportedly shot a 15-year-old girl, killing her and their unborn child with whom she was 9 months pregnant

It was an accident. He was just shooting at a seal.
Posted by: Cicero

See, we need abortion to be paid for by the government or tragedy like this will plague us ...

Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2017 04:52 PM (zZb/S)

229 Speaking of SJW idiots, Ashley Judd got skeered at a
Wildcats game when she let someone take her picture and he turned out
to be a Trump supporter"

How did she know? Did he announce it after he took the picture?

Or did she just then notice the horns and tail that all us Trump supporters have?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 04:48 PM (ZM2xo)

She said as he walked away he said, "We support Trump." Which sounded EXACTLY like "I want to murder you and carve KKK in your forehead."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:52 PM (PY9jH)

230
I don't trust the CBO... They lied about Odumbocare making it look way better than it was.. so...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2017 04:47 PM (O2RFr)

My working assumption is that double the cost they report would be closer to the truth.

And not that they are not lying liberals who are perfectly fine with untruth, but the CBO is statutorily constrained from doing anything but static analysis... which means they are not going to tell us the costs associated with people adjusting their behavior to legislation in addition to the direct costs of the legislation.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 13, 2017 04:52 PM (geAkB)

231 "relying on patches for the first few weeks"

Yeah... and you'll not just be able to... see your friends in the game, you'll also be able to help them in... space battles! that's it... and I will be directing further questions to... my secretaries, these two Bulgarian blondes who are sleeping with me!

well, okay, I was telling the truth about that last bit. suckers!

Posted by: Sean Murray, as played by Jon Lovitz at March 13, 2017 04:52 PM (reu8o)

232 vic, that's a good start. how this country gets anything done anymore is truly amazing.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 13, 2017 04:53 PM (KP5rU)

233
IF RYANCARE IS SO GREAT, THEN WHY ISN'T CONGRESS GOING ON IT?

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 04:53 PM (LWYzG)

234 Who is left to hold meetings in the conference room? I swear, the HR people are always having meetings.
Posted by: Benji Carver at March 13, 2017 04:46 PM (OD2ni)

=====

No shit. I am battling them right now. I now have the seniority to clean house and get rid of what I know to be dead wood. They are fighting me tooth and nail.

Posted by: Flyboy at March 13, 2017 04:53 PM (BUcYF)

235 ...reportedly shot a 15-year-old girl, killing her and their unborn child with whom she was 9 months pregnant
They stole my move!!!

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at March 13, 2017 04:54 PM (nlbfN)

236 /wait, he's not a Democrat? Are you sure? REALLY SURE? Posted by: shibumi at March 13, 2017 04:49 PM (FkAXz)
=====

Swamp Thing,
You Make My Heart Sing,
Swamp Thing,
You make everything.

(can't do notes, but think of 'Wild Thing')

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 13, 2017 04:54 PM (MIKMs)

237
The only question Paul Ryan needs to be asked is: You and Congress will be on this plan, right? If not, why not?

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 04:54 PM (LWYzG)

238 >>Turkey is going to Unfriend Netherlands.

/what next, will they unfollow them on Twitter?

Think they're more interested in hijacking the Netherlands' account and claiming it as their own.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 13, 2017 04:54 PM (NOIQH)

239 She said as he walked away he said, "We support Trump." Which sounded EXACTLY like "I want to murder you and carve KKK in your forehead."

Which is such bullshit. We don't say, we just do.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2017 04:54 PM (T2Zv1)

240 Over at ZeroHedge, problems with Netherlands and Turkey are escalating.

Turkey is going to Unfriend Netherlands.

/what next, will they unfollow them on Twitter?

Posted by: shibumi

Both heads of state asked their respective advisors this morning: " Where are my carriers!".

Posted by: Jean at March 13, 2017 04:54 PM (zZb/S)

241 A 35-year-old illegal alien, twice released by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) under the Obama administration, reportedly shot a 15-year-old girl, killing her and their unborn child with whom she was 9 months pregnant [\i]

Two less people sucking up resources.

Posted by: Thought bubble of most liberals at March 13, 2017 04:54 PM (eASYU)

242 The CBO is no different than the people who tell us that 90 million people out of work equals 4.7% unemployment.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 04:55 PM (6Ll1u)

243 The worst part is that these retards truly believe they are our betters and must lead us through life.

Posted by: WinkNF at March 13, 2017 04:55 PM (78iwL)

244 You knew it was hitting the fan when they dropped"personnel" and picked up "human resources".
===

'Human Capital ' .

If that ain't straight out of Minitru I don't know what is.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 13, 2017 04:55 PM (/hasf)

245 shit reporting to barrel.

Posted by: Thought bubble of most liberals at March 13, 2017 04:55 PM (eASYU)

246 UW-Madison...

Deeper in debt to the commune store
And come out more dumb.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2017 04:55 PM (QB0rT)

247 What's more scratch proof than Teflon because that should be Trump's name. He was involved in what Obamacare reform would entail and that meant no full repeal and leaving in the preexisting condition coverage. I'm glad though that Ryan is the one catching the heat and not Trump. He's got other things I want him to accomplish and I don't want him damaged by his own supporters.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 13, 2017 04:56 PM (sNESL)

248 Isn't mass effect the franchise where the designer told white people they were nasty and they should shut up? IIRC he said it wasn't possible to be bigoted against men and /or white people, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 13, 2017 04:56 PM (/f1mm)

249 So close.
So close.

Posted by: the barrel at March 13, 2017 04:56 PM (nlbfN)

250 220
I'm sure the New York-based media will breathlessly regale us with tales of the snow storm.

Meanwhile,
we're still waiting since October to have leaning/dangerous trees
removed from the hurricane, and just today, a neighbor is finally having
his roof replaced.

But we're knuckle dragging mouth breathers down here, so it's okay.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 04:50 PM (PY9jH)
------
Jane, they still haven't completed a lot of the rebuilding from Hurricane Sandy up in NYC (and particularly where I live). So don't feel that you are being ignored, it is just government efficiency.

Posted by: Penfold at March 13, 2017 04:57 PM (Fbt5B)

251 The worst part is that these retards truly believe they are our betters and must lead us through life.
Posted by: WinkNF at March 13, 2017 04:55 PM (78iwL)

They should all spent a week in Boot Camp. Mind you I don't want them in the Military, but I'd pay a small fortune to see them in Basic for one week, just one week

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2017 04:57 PM (KlI/a)

252 234; those who can't do shit, have meetings. makes them feel good about themselves.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 13, 2017 04:58 PM (KP5rU)

253 IF RYANCARE IS SO GREAT, THEN WHY ISN'T CONGRESS GOING ON IT?

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 04:53 PM (LWYzG)
...........

They don't want to pay the tanning tax?

Posted by: wth at March 13, 2017 04:58 PM (HgMAr)

254 Over at ZeroHedge, problems with Netherlands and Turkey are escalating.

===

More giblet gravy.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 13, 2017 04:58 PM (/hasf)

255 What's more scratch proof than Teflon because that should be Trump's name
=====

Red Copper square pans.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 13, 2017 04:58 PM (MIKMs)

256 HHS Price and the GOPe will disappoint us.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 13, 2017 04:58 PM (X+rUO)

257 moron robbie, yeah, Manveer Heir said that. he told me he doesn't want my opinion, so I figure my money is too dirty for him as well. doing him a favour really.

Posted by: Sean Murray, as played by Jon Lovitz at March 13, 2017 04:58 PM (reu8o)

258 Sooo very proud to have my Masters in Business from Wisconsin. Just the other day a student was asking me for advice on filling out his business school application. First question: ...importance of diversity... Second question: ...importance of sustainability... I told him I was the wrong person to ask, he would never get in if he listened to the likes of me.

Posted by: Blue in the face Madison resident at March 13, 2017 04:59 PM (MelgH)

259 off smelly liar sock.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 13, 2017 04:59 PM (reu8o)

260 >>They should all spent a week in Boot Camp. Mind you I don't want them in
the Military, but I'd pay a small fortune to see them in Basic for one
week, just one week

And no relaxing of physical standards for the ladies, because gender is just a social construct y'all!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 13, 2017 04:59 PM (NOIQH)

261 Over at ZeroHedge

Don't listen to them they're on the fake news list from Harvard along with Judicial Watch ...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2017 05:00 PM (O2RFr)

262
I am convinced that it is more kabuki.

The plan was to let Ocare fail all along.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 13, 2017 05:00 PM (/hasf)

263 Well, almost time to leave.

Horde, if you don't hear from me in a couple of hours, please send a St. Bernard with a keg of brandy.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 05:00 PM (ZM2xo)

264
The plan was to let Ocare fail all along.
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 13, 2017 05:00 PM (/hasf)

Well that was also Fredo's plan from the get go to force a full 100% Gov Takeover of Health Care

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2017 05:01 PM (KlI/a)

265 Posted by: Under Fire
Don't hit me with all them negative waves, Moriarty. Can't you see what a beautiful day it is?

Posted by: Oddball at March 13, 2017 05:01 PM (eXSOZ)

266 263 Well, almost time to leave.

Horde, if you don't hear from me in a couple of hours, please send a St. Bernard with a keg of brandy.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 05:00 PM (ZM2xo)

Scotch or Bourbon only.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 13, 2017 05:01 PM (sNESL)

267 mmm, st. bernard.

Posted by: Barry Dogeater at March 13, 2017 05:01 PM (reu8o)

268 Jane, they still haven't completed a lot of the
rebuilding from Hurricane Sandy up in NYC (and particularly where I
live). So don't feel that you are being ignored, it is just government
efficiency.

Posted by: Penfold at March 13, 2017 04:57 PM (Fbt5B)

It's not the government we need, we're all short of roofers and tree removal people. We're been on a waiting list since October. Screw the government, we're not dependent on them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 05:02 PM (PY9jH)

269 Bourbon then.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 05:02 PM (ZM2xo)

270 255 What's more scratch proof than Teflon because that should be Trump's name
=====

Red Copper square pans.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 13, 2017 04:58 PM (MIKMs)

That's a mouthful . But I like it.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 13, 2017 05:03 PM (sNESL)

271 "Stop making my feelz confused! STOP!"

Posted by: snowflake minion at March 13, 2017 05:03 PM (88jeI)

272 Bourbon then.

Posted by: Donna and V.

And some of those Cheeeez Waffle crackers.

Posted by: Bruce at March 13, 2017 05:03 PM (8ikIW)

273 Bourbon then.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 05:02 PM (ZM2xo)

What's wrong with both?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2017 05:03 PM (rF0hx)

274 257 moron robbie, yeah, Manveer Heir said that. he told me he doesn't want my opinion, so I figure my money is too dirty for him as well. doing him a favour really.

Posted by: Sean Murray, as played by Jon Lovitz at March 13, 2017 04:58 PM (reu8o)

I'm guessing he's very anti-gun, too. It's sort of puzzling how you make your fortune off of a white man with a gun saving all the lesser races / species.

What kind of message does that video game hero imprint on young developing minds?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 13, 2017 05:04 PM (/f1mm)

275 It's not the government we need, we're all short of roofers and tree removal people.

How many you want?
Sincerely,
Texas

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2017 05:04 PM (T2Zv1)

276 they still haven't completed a lot of the
rebuilding from Hurricane Sandy up in NYC (and particularly where I
live). So don't feel that you are being ignored, it is just government
efficiency.

Well yeah that and weakening the Mafia...at least the Contractors showed up, well sometimes.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2017 05:04 PM (KlI/a)

277 I was wrong. This is a 2014 Shiraz.

But the mellowing effect is just as fantastic.

Oh, there are my manchego cheese and bacon puffs, ready to be liberated from the oven!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 13, 2017 05:05 PM (EnKk6)

278 It's 75 here, 90 in the valley. I put on my shorts today, we had a cold winter and I feel for the east coast, really I do.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 05:06 PM (6Ll1u)

279 Oh, there are my manchego cheese and bacon puffs, ready to be liberated from the oven!

Hoity Toity... Where's the Ripple and bacon rinds?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2017 05:06 PM (O2RFr)

280 214 The MS13 members arrested recently supposedly killed a young sex slave for knocking down the leaders Satan shrine. This evil needs to be purged from this country.

Does MS13 have some connection with satanism pervasively, or is this just a funky case where illegal foreign criminal gang intersected with random crazy?

Posted by: moronhorde minion at March 13, 2017 05:06 PM (88jeI)

281 Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 13, 2017 05:02 PM (ZM2xo)

That seemed to be the 'ette consensus on the Sunday Bourbon / Scotch debate. Actullay it was clear liquor that was preferred but that wasn't one of the choices.

Posted by: Jack Sock at March 13, 2017 05:06 PM (sNESL)

282
All hail the new hero of the left - Preet Bharara is leaving his office today to people cheering him for standing up to Hitler. He's shaking hands and hugging people. CNBC is wetting is collective panties.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2017 05:06 PM (493sH)

283 It's like the pages of all the university textbooks are coated with retarded.

Posted by: Dang at March 13, 2017 05:06 PM (8b+oT)

284 Doh

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2017 05:06 PM (T2Zv1)

285 Anybody found a great photo feed from modernity Spring Break 2017?

We are close to reaching peak sexuality IMHO.

Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 13, 2017 05:06 PM (1hhNr)

286 It is very fun watching these snowflakes crack as they are truly challenged intellectually and ethically for the first time in their lives.

Posted by: New Yorker at March 13, 2017 05:06 PM (39g3+)

287 Oh,oh barrel time...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2017 05:07 PM (O2RFr)

288 Auto close tags FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2017 05:07 PM (T2Zv1)

289 OMG I is embarrelled!

Posted by: moronhorde minion at March 13, 2017 05:07 PM (88jeI)

290 The best pork rinds still have some snout hair on em.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 13, 2017 05:07 PM (X+rUO)

291 Does MS13 have some connection with satanism pervasively, or is this just a funky case where illegal foreign criminal gang intersected with random crazy?

I think its just that guy is a lunatic monster who happens to be an MS13 gangster

Posted by: New Yorker at March 13, 2017 05:07 PM (39g3+)

292 manchego cheese and bacon puffs
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 13, 2017 05:05 PM (EnKk6)

No - no words. No words to describe it. Poetry! They should have sent a poet. So beautiful. So beautiful...

Posted by: hogmartin at March 13, 2017 05:07 PM (8nWyX)

293 I really should learn not to try to sock puppet, I am no good at it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2017 05:08 PM (39g3+)

294 All hail the new hero of the left - Preet Bharara is leaving his
office today to people cheering him for standing up to Hitler. He's
shaking hands and hugging people. CNBC is wetting is collective panties.>>>

Well the list of new fires will be easier to make from that video.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 13, 2017 05:08 PM (qXFhJ)

295 please send a St. Bernard with a keg of brandy.

Dog's already eaten, what ya wanna bet the kegs drunk before I finish typing?

Posted by: DaveA at March 13, 2017 05:08 PM (FhXTo)

296 Preet must plan on a political campaign, but what is most likely - NYC mayor, a senate seat, NY governor?

Posted by: moronhorde minion at March 13, 2017 05:09 PM (88jeI)

297 A snow storm?

In winter?

Inconceivable!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 13, 2017 05:09 PM (kTF2Z)

298
Preet was about to leave but then went back up the stairs to shake hands again and stay on camera. He went back up the stairs. Now he's hugging people. All hail the TrumpHitler slayer!!!! I think the douches on CNBC are going to start fondling themselves over this

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2017 05:09 PM (493sH)

299 Preet's sending a lot of thrills up a lot of legs.

Posted by: moronhorde minion at March 13, 2017 05:10 PM (88jeI)

300 Preet must plan on a political campaign, but what is most likely - NYC mayor, a senate seat, NY governor?
Posted by: moronhorde minion at March 13, 2017 05:09 PM (88jeI)

Owning a 7-11

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 13, 2017 05:10 PM (KlI/a)

301 Google image search "ms13 tats". Looks like a lot of satany stuff going on.

Posted by: Dang at March 13, 2017 05:11 PM (8b+oT)

302 Does MS13 have some connection with satanism pervasively, or is this just a funky case where illegal foreign criminal gang intersected with random crazy?
Posted by: moronhorde minion at March 13, 2017 05:06 PM (

Some of the people from Latin America believe in Santeria and brujeria(sp?) witchcraft. The mexican markets sell candles and herbs.
My friend brought me to a place in the hills where someone is doing witchcraft. There were lit candles, chicken carcasses, coins and flowers. It was really creepy. There were 50lb bags of urea up there. You kind of had to see it.
Someone is taking advantage of these people.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 13, 2017 05:12 PM (NLtEd)

303 I think its more about being scary than any satanic affiliation, but I may be mistaken about that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2017 05:12 PM (39g3+)

304
Preet Bwahaha:

A guy we've never heard of before is someone the Fake News is telling us is very important.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 05:12 PM (LWYzG)

305 Preet is the hero that subpoenaed Reason dot com for commenters' information because they joking about judges and woodchippers using vague Fargo references that he didn't understand. Not any particular judge IIRC. Just Fargo jokes about judges.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 13, 2017 05:12 PM (/f1mm)

306 Questions that are being asked OUT OF DOORS, OUTSIDE OF THOSE BUILDINGS, by people OTHER THAN THEIR PROFESSORS.

Burn them to the ground.

Posted by: RKae at March 13, 2017 05:13 PM (4DpAT)

307
They're all smoking cigarettes on the set of CNBC. It was a collective Preetgasim.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2017 05:13 PM (493sH)

308 Preet will be running for some political office soon, yes, after he tries to dig up some dirt on Trump to get someone to bring an indictment. That will solidify his credentials with the left.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2017 05:13 PM (fDdVG)

309 You can tell a MS 13 gang member by the total body cover of tattoos, even the face. If you see one you'll know.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 05:14 PM (6Ll1u)

310 298 Preet was about to leave but then went back up the stairs to shake hands again and stay on camera.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2017 05:09 PM (493sH)

Repreet.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 13, 2017 05:14 PM (/f1mm)

311 "Preet must plan on a political campaign, but what is most likely - NYC mayor, a senate seat, NY governor?"

He wants to be president of a country made up of NYC, DC and NoVA.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 13, 2017 05:14 PM (OD2ni)

312 298
Preet was about to leave but then went back up the stairs to shake hands again and stay on camera. He went back up the stairs. Now he's hugging people. All hail the TrumpHitler slayer!!!! I think the douches on CNBC are going to start fondling themselves over this
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2017 05:09 PM (493sH)

**********************

For some reason I'm reminded of the Hindenburg.

If the Hindenburg was the Democrat Party flaming out.

It's full of Obama--and it's on fire!!

Posted by: Holmes at March 13, 2017 05:14 PM (fi5nC)

313 My friend brought me to a place in the hills where someone is doing witchcraft. There were lit candles, chicken carcasses, coins and flowers. It was really creepy. There were 50lb bags of urea up there. You kind of had to see it.
Someone is taking advantage of these people.
Posted by: CaliGirl

And if it doesn't eork, you displeased the witch/spirits. Leave more money & tryy again.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2017 05:15 PM (T2Zv1)

314 Preet was about to leave but then went back up the stairs to shake hands again and stay on camera.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 13, 2017 05:09 PM (493sH)
**********

My gawd--he is a Child of Chuckie (Schumer)!

Posted by: Holmes at March 13, 2017 05:15 PM (fi5nC)

315 I have a feeling they'd be a lot less excited by Preet if he was named Douglas Whitebread.

Posted by: moronhorde minion at March 13, 2017 05:15 PM (88jeI)

316
Prett Bharaa, a.k.a. some guy we've never heard of before.

He was Chuck Schemer's stooge on the inside of the Justice Dept.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 05:16 PM (LWYzG)

317 Preet would do well in the hospitality industry.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 13, 2017 05:16 PM (X+rUO)

318 "Preet's sending a lot of thrills up a lot of legs."

How is his pant crease?

Posted by: David Brooks at March 13, 2017 05:16 PM (OD2ni)

319 Preets real name is Preetinder and all I can think of "I am the great Pretender/Preetinder."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2017 05:16 PM (fDdVG)

320
Why is Prett leaving now??

He was FIRED on Friday. Get the fuck out, Prete.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 05:17 PM (LWYzG)

321 Preet would do well in the hospitality industry.

Slurpee machine operator?

I denounce myself...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2017 05:17 PM (O2RFr)

322 Well that was also Fredo's plan from the get go to force a full 100% Gov Takeover of Health Care
---
Ryan will be happy to pass that on a bipartisan 218-217 vote.

Regarding the CBO, I forgot to mention they're also saying 14 million folks got booted into the abyss of the uninsured, so Ryan gets all the benefits of a justified media screamfest, too, all for a whopping $337 billion in savings.

Over ten years.

Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 13, 2017 05:18 PM (3Liv/)

323 Pants status:

Creased to Foggy Bottom standards.

Posted by: moronhorde minion at March 13, 2017 05:18 PM (88jeI)

324 ...while tapping on you Starbucks cup's lid.

Fucking perfect.

yes Jane.

Posted by: Golfman at March 13, 2017 05:18 PM (48QDY)

325 Night Manager at the local Comfort Inn.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 13, 2017 05:18 PM (X+rUO)

326 Preet was the one who prosecuted Dinesh Disousa. A classic dem hack.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 05:19 PM (6Ll1u)

327 You people who put logic and thinking above feelings just don't understand the college campus.

I'm really not being sarcastic here, either. To them, there is no issue with hypocrisy or inconsistency. As long as you follow your feelings, you're not being hypocritical or inconsistent, even if your feelz produce wildly inconsistent results, and no logical path guiding future decisions.

Posted by: Ted K. at March 13, 2017 05:19 PM (I6Vm1)

328 On the whole Preet thing, nobody cares, and it's just the MSM hoping the whole "immigrant bigotry" card gets some play. Had he had a non-exotic name, it would have been a non-story.

I will say Trump carries some of the blame because he originally asked the guy to stay on which helped make this a story.

Hopefully he learned a valuable lesson. Anyone with a Dem connection is part of the conspiracy against him.

Posted by: Maritime at March 13, 2017 05:19 PM (D3P4S)

329 Its hilarious how the left is trying to turn this Preet guy into a crusader against corruption and a hero fighting injustice. Dinesh D'Suza ran up against him, he's a nasty character.

http://www.dineshdsouza.com/news/preet-bharara-ruthless-deceitful/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2017 05:19 PM (39g3+)

330 Preet was the one who prosecuted Dinesh Disousa. A classic dem hack.

Yup, good riddance...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2017 05:19 PM (O2RFr)

331
So now we know Preete was a Rat and a Leaker and a Saboteur in the Justice Department.

How do we know this?
By looking at the hysterical reaction by the Fake News and the Democrats.

But but but but but Trump said he'd keep Preat on??

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 05:19 PM (LWYzG)

332 Proud mom of a UW-Madison grad. And the Badgers are in the tournament. 8th Seed? What the ...

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2017 05:20 PM (dFi94)

333
And if it doesn't eork, you displeased the witch/spirits. Leave more money & tryy again.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2017 05:15 PM (T2Zv1)

It makes me mad. I think they bring oaxacans there by the bus full. These people are being taken advantage of. They are also going to start a fire.
I blew out their stupid candles. It's in the hills of drought riddled CA.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 13, 2017 05:20 PM (NLtEd)

334 292 manchego cheese and bacon puffs
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 13, 2017 05:05 PM (EnKk6)

No - no words. No words to describe it. Poetry! They should have sent a poet. So beautiful. So beautiful...
Posted by: hogmartin at March 13, 2017 05:07 PM (8nWyX)
---

*strums space hippie lyre*

Headin' out to Bacon
Yea Brother
Headin' out to Bacon
No more trouble in my body or my mind
Gonna live like a 'ron on whatever I find
Eat all the bacon and throw way the swine

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 13, 2017 05:21 PM (EnKk6)

335 Preet was in charge of the 650,000 emails found on Pedo Carlos Danger computer. All those emails the Clinton Crime Syndicate had. On charge of the Human and Weiner investigation as well in NYC.

Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 13, 2017 05:21 PM (1hhNr)

336 Preet will be running for some political office soon, yes, after he tries to dig up some dirt on Trump to get someone to bring an indictment. That will solidify his credentials with the left.

--

He already nail D'souza for that BS. His cred is established and that he's a mfm glory hound and sociopathic liar are pluses.

Posted by: auscolpyr at March 13, 2017 05:21 PM (pzA2L)

337 I blew out their stupid candles.

Well now you've done it. Lana Del Rey is gonna sing at you in your dreams. (bwuhaha scary laugh).

Posted by: moronhorde minion at March 13, 2017 05:22 PM (88jeI)

338 335 Preet was in charge of the 650,000 emails found on Pedo Carlos Danger computer. All those emails the Clinton Crime Syndicate had. On charge of the Human and Weiner investigation as well in NYC.

I read the NY cops were mad He was stalling on that investigation...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2017 05:22 PM (O2RFr)

339 somewhere, a 7-11 is missing a lottery ticket perveyor.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 13, 2017 05:22 PM (KP5rU)

340 Proud mom of a UW-Madison grad. And the Badgers are in the tournament. 8th Seed? What the ..

---

It's so they could knock of two #1 seeds like in Bennett's last year. However if they meet an ACC team expect BS ref's.

Posted by: auscolpyr at March 13, 2017 05:23 PM (pzA2L)

341 Donna Ampersands - you here? Are you getting hit with lake effect snow?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2017 05:23 PM (dFi94)

342 Regarding the CBO, I forgot to mention they're also saying 14 million folks got booted into the abyss of the uninsured...

Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 13, 2017 05:18 PM (3Liv/)

Oh good, we're back to talking about it in actual numbers again. I guess "less than 5% of the nation" doesn't have the same impact.

Hopefully someone will point out that there are still 40 million uninsured just like before Obamacare. I doubt they will, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 13, 2017 05:24 PM (/f1mm)

343 In better news, Chrissy H from The Pretenders fears she will spend the rest of her life alone, and die likewise.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 05:24 PM (6Ll1u)

344 Consistency is racist. As are principles.

Don't y'all know the ends justify the means?

Posted by: Minuteman at March 13, 2017 05:25 PM (0i9eW)

345 Dear Sweet Jesus. Just got a call, a young father in our church has committed suicide (father of four).

I have no words.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 05:25 PM (PY9jH)

346 I hope they made sure the dickbag didn't destroy any evidence before he left.

Posted by: steevy at March 13, 2017 05:25 PM (r/0kC)

347
Not for anything, but all those people who "hugged" Pleet on his way out his former office Need To Be Fired Too.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 05:25 PM (LWYzG)

348 In you live near NYC you've heard of Preet. He's done some good things. Going after Dinesh DSouza wasn't one of them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2017 05:25 PM (fDdVG)

349 There were 50lb bags of urea up there.
----
Gotta ask -- what do you do with the 50 lb bags of urea?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 13, 2017 05:25 PM (EnKk6)

350
In better news, Chrissy H from The Pretenders fears she will spend the rest of her life alone, and die likewise.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 05:24 PM (6Ll1u)
===================

Rev's doing a funeral for a person like that in a couple days. Literally nothing to say about him in his eulogy. Might have to get creative.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2017 05:26 PM (dFi94)

351 You and I won't see 2050, let alone 2100.

But there are little Shits alive today who will.

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 13, 2017 04:29 PM (LWYzG)
Maybe.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2017 05:26 PM (SRKgf)

352 Pre-tinder? Wouldn't that be Craig's List?

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 13, 2017 05:26 PM (6n332)

353 However if they meet an ACC team expect BS ref's.

Posted by: auscolpyr at March 13, 2017 05:23 PM (pzA2L)

Wow, basketball, too?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at March 13, 2017 05:27 PM (/f1mm)

354 Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 05:25 PM (PY9jH)

Terrible.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2017 05:27 PM (fDdVG)

355 Dear Sweet Jesus. Just got a call, a young father in our church has committed suicide (father of four).

I have no words.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 05:25 PM (PY9jH)
============================

That's horrible, Jane. The worst. We had a suicide in our church a couple months back. Young mom. It's hard to preach a funeral like that.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2017 05:27 PM (dFi94)

356 Preet must have stepped on the wrong toes.

Posted by: John Koskinen at March 13, 2017 05:28 PM (X+rUO)

357 All that money and, I guess, effort (but I'm in the dangerous territory of assumption here) and they haven't learned logic or critical thinking.

If they were smart and educated, they'd ask for a refund. Heeeeyyy, wait a minute... Well played, Madison-Wisconsin.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 13, 2017 05:28 PM (1CroS)

358 345 Dear Sweet Jesus. Just got a call, a young father in our church has committed suicide (father of four).

I have no words.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 05:25 PM (PY9jH)

I'm sorry, I have no words either. That's terrible.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 13, 2017 05:28 PM (NLtEd)

359 Nood

Posted by: Bruce at March 13, 2017 05:28 PM (8ikIW)

360 Dear Sweet Jesus. Just got a call, a young father in our church has committed suicide (father of four).

I have no words.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 05:25 PM (PY9jH)

Ugh, sorry. I haven't got anything that hasn't been said before or will be said again either.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 13, 2017 05:28 PM (8nWyX)

361 I just found out about the suicide, and that my friend and hairstylist, who suffered a medical mistake, has died at 51.

I'm in charge of funeral receptions. Just did my second in two weeks on Friday. This one is going to be awful.

I just want to sit and cry. But I won't.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 05:29 PM (PY9jH)

362 "In better news, Chrissy H from The Pretenders fears she will spend the rest of her life alone, and die likewise."

Well she looks like Steven Tyler now....

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 13, 2017 05:30 PM (OD2ni)

363 What if the demand is physically impossible?

E.g.

Demand: You must sing at my Easter mass.

Response: I'm booked for Easter.

Posted by: Off the reservation at March 13, 2017 05:30 PM (EoAgi)

364 There were 50lb bags of urea up there.
----
Gotta ask -- what do you do with the 50 lb bags of urea?
Posted by: All Hail Eris

Make black powder?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2017 05:30 PM (T2Zv1)

365 On Obamacare, I really don't think insisting on full repeal or nothing is a viable strategy, even though I'd like the thing dead and buried.

It's probably something that's going to need to be addressed with several bills over several years.

All because of a like 2-3 GOP RINOs in the Senate.

Posted by: Maritime at March 13, 2017 05:31 PM (D3P4S)

366 349 There were 50lb bags of urea up there.
----
Gotta ask -- what do you do with the 50 lb bags of urea?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 13, 2017 05:25 PM (EnKk6)
I don't know. They had 50lb bags of chicken food too.
I'm not sure if urea is flammable or puts fires out.
It was a 20 minute hike uphill from the road. That's why the supplies are left there.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 13, 2017 05:31 PM (NLtEd)

367 This one is going to be awful.

I just want to sit and cry. But I won't.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 05:29 PM (PY9jH)
==========================

You're one of the steady hands that helps in times like this. You are a treasure.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2017 05:31 PM (dFi94)

368 Just got a call, a young father in our church has committed suicide (father of four).

God be with his family.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 13, 2017 05:32 PM (39g3+)

369 wouldn't 50 lb bags of urea be considered a precursor chemical for explosive making? Really don't know but it might be in that zone.

Posted by: moronhorde minion at March 13, 2017 05:32 PM (88jeI)

370
I will say Trump carries some of the blame because he originally asked the guy to stay on which helped make this a story.
That was Nov and Trump might have asked him to be prepared to stay on to see if Schumer might play ball. Schumer's not playing ball and this schmuck is out on his ass too bad

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 13, 2017 05:32 PM (lKyWE)

371 There's only one thing that is challenging suicide for more deaths in this country, it's opiates. I'm sure there are blurred lines of those figures too.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 13, 2017 05:33 PM (6Ll1u)

372 iSoothsayer iPro iLX: "He was Chuck Schemer's stooge on the inside of the Justice Dept."

THE key metric in this story.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 13, 2017 05:33 PM (1CroS)

373 You're one of the steady hands that helps in times like this. You are a treasure.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2017 05:31 PM (dFi94)

Thank you, but my "committee" has dwindled down to me and a couple of other people. We put out huge spreads, and it's an enormous amount of work. I pulled out my back on Friday.

Right now I'm so mad at the father who did this and left his wife and four young children. Lord, forgive me.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 05:34 PM (PY9jH)

374 Why is Prett leaving now??
-----
They had to get a bunch of photographers together to reenact his departure.

Posted by: Dang at March 13, 2017 05:35 PM (8b+oT)

375 Right now I'm so mad at the father who did this and left his wife and four young children. Lord, forgive me.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 05:34 PM (PY9jH)
==========================

I think it's very normal to be mad at a person who has taken his/her own life. I get mad when people do it. I understand that most of them are not in the best mental health position when they do it, but it is so incredibly, horribly selfish.

A permanent solution to a temporary problem that slices through all of those who love you. Suicide is the worst.

God bless his poor family.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 13, 2017 05:38 PM (dFi94)

376 145 If you're a Satanist chances are you're just a weenie who wants to dress up and stick your finger in the eye of the Christianizes. You don't actually believe in Satan except as the supposed epitome of freedom and personal license. and IMO, you already belong to Satan-you just don't realize he's the father of lies.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2017 04:32 PM (fDdVG)

Shorter version: Nothing defines who they are except who we are.

Posted by: Minuteman at March 13, 2017 05:41 PM (0i9eW)

377 Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 05:34 PM (PY9jH)
Jane I'm really sorry.

We have a friend in the Ag industry that was just shot leaving a bar at 1:30 AM. He had a wife and two small children. He was 40.
The shooter had been in a fight in the bar, went home got a gun and came back. Shot the wrong guy in the parking lot.
It's shocking.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 13, 2017 05:42 PM (NLtEd)

378 I'm all about consent. Transactions only occur when there is mutual consent. I'm a firm believer in seduction, not rape.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at March 13, 2017 05:54 PM (xiOrX)

379 The fact these idiots couldn't see the obvious trap being set was enough for me.

But hey - Bill Clinton is paid a lot of money to give speeches. Why can't I pay him to give a speech I want him to give?

Posted by: realityman at March 13, 2017 06:32 PM (Ch0fq)

380 Well I know someone who thinks it should be illegal (as in pay a fine or even go to jail) for Drudge to link to Ann Coulter, because Ann lies. When I asked this person how a "lie" is defined, she patiently explained to me that a lie is a false statement. When I asked who gets to define what statements are false, she said community standards can decide. When I pointed out that different communities might have different opinions but want to read Drudge anyways, she patiently explained to me that I should go to hell. This person has several college degrees.

Yes, I would still bang her if given the opportunity, but that's different.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 13, 2017 07:12 PM (LeUrG)

381 So a white florist wouldn't have to sell flowers to a BLM member if the florist has a political disagreement with BLM?

Madison, where old hippies are still screwing everything and everyone.

Posted by: Michael Haz at March 13, 2017 09:35 PM (9ivOl)

382 This is a great thing to do. Those college kids clearly have never been presented with such a choice, and just as clearly, they're actually THINKING about it for the first time.

Bravo, ADF!

Posted by: Beverly at March 13, 2017 11:41 PM (/DwQ8)

383 Liberals have no qualms about actually refusing to serve Conservatives, Christians, Trump voters, police officers, etc, etc, etc.

At the height of the Christian Bakers persecutions, the hairdresser for the R Gov of NM refused her any further service because she didn't like her politics.

Number of liberals ever prosecuted over such things? Still zero.

Whatever happened to the 1st Amendment being required, per SCOTUS, to include a Right of association as a basis for the other Rights included?

I guess that doesn't apply to anyone that isn't a liberal.

Posted by: Aarradin at March 14, 2017 03:12 AM (+7Wfv)

384 >>> Will the dancing Hamiltons please wait in the wings? We are only seeing singing Hamiltons.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 13, 2017 04:02 PM (IqV8l)

+1

And the Hamiltons can ONLY be black or Latino, thank you very much, no white Hamiltons allowed. It says so on the call sheet!

Posted by: LizLem at March 14, 2017 05:10 PM (hvf9s)

385 >>> I just want to sit and cry. But I won't.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 13, 2017 05:29 PM (PY9jH)

*hugs*

*cookies*

Posted by: LizLem at March 14, 2017 05:12 PM (hvf9s)

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