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Mid-Morning Open Thread
Scene During The Eruption of Vesuvius
Joseph Franque
This melodramatic scene of a family trying to escape the A.D. 79 eruption of Vesuvius, a volcano in southern Italy, was inspired by the report of a French archeologist excavating in Pompeii in 1813. "A mother fled, dragging after her a part of her family: two daughters, and an infant whom she clutched in vain against her breast....The ash covered them, burying them all in the same tomb; their remains were mingled, and almost indistinguishable from one another." The report goes on to describe jewelry found with the remains, including the mother's earrings and the serpent ring worn by the standing girl.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Tami at March 08, 2017 09:33 AM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Kindltot at March 08, 2017 09:35 AM (WQX/u)
Posted by: Strobe at March 08, 2017 09:35 AM (gbWkA)
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 08, 2017 09:35 AM (WuRdh)
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 09:36 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Tami at March 08, 2017 09:36 AM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Roman Polanski at March 08, 2017 09:36 AM (/x6xU)
Posted by: JEM at March 08, 2017 09:36 AM (TppKb)
-Ezra Klein
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 09:37 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 08, 2017 09:37 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 08, 2017 09:37 AM (Tyii7)
Posted by: kallisto at March 08, 2017 09:37 AM (nNdYv)
-Ezra Klein
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
"Seventy-three, bitch."
-Mt. Vesuvius
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 08, 2017 09:37 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 08, 2017 09:37 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Chupacabra at March 08, 2017 09:37 AM (/x6xU)
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 09:37 AM (sBOL1)
I am having fun doing that.
Not much on the painting though.
Composition is OK, but the subject is depressing. Reading on various disasters tells me to run now.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 08, 2017 09:38 AM (WQX/u)
Posted by: Campi Flegrei at March 08, 2017 09:38 AM (yoe9p)
I was too poor and too busy for it.
I did make is to Ostia Antica which was the Roman port during the Republic/Empire.
It's a smaller, more lightly trafficked version of Pompeii with no dead bodies but plenty of preserved mosaics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 09:38 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 08, 2017 09:38 AM (vRcUp)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 08, 2017 09:39 AM (LTHVh)
Mom's kind of beefy.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 08, 2017 09:39 AM (XWkhW)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 09:40 AM (4Ru5B)
-Mt. Vesuvius
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 08, 2017 09:37 AM (9krrF)
Ha.
Posted by: Golfman at March 08, 2017 09:40 AM (k0S3A)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 08, 2017 09:40 AM (zGttg)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 08, 2017 09:40 AM (LTHVh)
By the way, it ain't no Rothko.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 08, 2017 09:40 AM (XWkhW)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 09:38 AM (ELUpj)
Some of my relatives live in Ostia Lido, the neighboring town/city/disaster of communist bloc architecture. What a contrast to Ostia Antica.
What were you doing in Rome, if I may be so ficcanaso to ask?
Posted by: kallisto at March 08, 2017 09:41 AM (nNdYv)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 09:41 AM (/tuJf)
Don't mess with pyroclastic flow.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 08, 2017 09:41 AM (ZFUt7)
Nonetheless, it must have been terrifying when Vesuvius erupted.
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 09:41 AM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Tami at March 08, 2017 09:41 AM (Enq6K)
I found it interesting that the artist painted entirely from a written description of an event.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2017 09:41 AM (rF0hx)
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Trump to Pick Former UN Spokesman Grenell for NATO Post, Official Says
Trump Definitely is a NAZI !
Grenell will be among highest-ranking openly gay officials
Posted by: EVLINC! at March 08, 2017 09:41 AM (y3aQB)
-Mt. Vesuvius
Stuff like this just goes on camera these days, right?
Hold my beer and watch this...
Posted by: San Andreas Fault at March 08, 2017 09:41 AM (TppKb)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 09:41 AM (yoe9p)
it too obvious, but I want to see fur and early morning dew.
Posted by: Lt. Lockhart at March 08, 2017 09:42 AM (FZYNt)
(Not complaining -- it's dramatic, well-executed, and full of boobies -- but the back story doesn't pass the straight face test.)
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 08, 2017 09:42 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: josephistan at March 08, 2017 09:42 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 08, 2017 09:40 AM (zGttg)
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It seems to have convinced JackStraw that he needs to move to a volcano. Other than that, I got nothing.
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 09:42 AM (sBOL1)
26 It was the poison gas that got them.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 08, 2017 09:40 AM (LTHVh)
Vulcan had the refried beans for lunch.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 08, 2017 09:42 AM (XWkhW)
Posted by: Under Fire at March 08, 2017 09:43 AM (57R5r)
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 09:43 AM (nw6G5)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 08, 2017 09:43 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 08, 2017 09:43 AM (VLjz7)
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 09:44 AM (FZYNt)
I like volcanos, sue me.
In addition to being one of the major causes of greenhouse gases, far more than man, boobies.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 09:44 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: kallisto at March 08, 2017 09:44 AM (nNdYv)
Well that is, or was, a motivated individual
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 09:44 AM (KlI/a)
Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe
Dafuq?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 08, 2017 09:44 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: willow-McGivering at March 08, 2017 09:44 AM (R7cwD)
Posted by: fixerupper at March 08, 2017 09:44 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 08, 2017 09:44 AM (fAZRN)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 08, 2017 09:45 AM (pUDQf)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 08, 2017 09:40 AM (zGttg)
Hell is opening up on earth, a wave of death is about to overtake you, and you're only dressed in a toga. I don't think keeping modest is necessarily a high priority on their minds.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 08, 2017 09:45 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Edie Van Halen at March 08, 2017 09:45 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2017 09:41 AM (rF0hx)
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Well, it would have to be that way, right? I mean, if he had been there he'd be dead, and even if he had lived, he wouldn't have made it through all those centuries until the 1800s.
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 09:45 AM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Kindltot at March 08, 2017 09:45 AM (WQX/u)
Day Without Women.
Good.
Maybe I can get some shit DONE today.
Posted by: fixerupper
If that dick can suck itself, please explain to the horde.
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 09:45 AM (FZYNt)
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FBI chief Comey asserting power like no one in history | New York Post
Posted by: EVLINC! at March 08, 2017 09:46 AM (y3aQB)
What were you doing in Rome, if I may be so ficcanaso to ask?
Posted by: kallisto at March 08, 2017 09:41 AM (nNdYv)
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I ran away and taught English as a foreign language.
It was fun, for sure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 09:46 AM (ELUpj)
why not just go to permanent sleep in a comfy bed?
Posted by: willow-McGivering at March 08, 2017 09:46 AM (R7cwD)
Posted by: EVLINC!
Comey puts the ass in asserting
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 09:46 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: mindful webworker, volcanically at March 08, 2017 09:46 AM (CigxG)
A 20-year-old man was killed when he laid his head on the rail at a Brooklyn subway station as a train was arriving Wednesday morning.
Well that is, or was, a motivated individual
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 09:44 AM (KlI/a)
He's no squish, that's for sure.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 08, 2017 09:46 AM (XWkhW)
Nosebleeds, bleeding gums, and bruising are back, so it's off to the hematologist for a blood check.
Almost two years post chemo.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 08, 2017 09:47 AM (56nYn)
Have you considered putting together a grant application regarding that latter point? We may still have a few ucks left.
Posted by: NSF, NOAA, EPA at March 08, 2017 09:47 AM (TppKb)
They contribute breasts, for cryin' out loud. Breasts are self-justifying.
I visited Pompeii ten years ago. One of the fun facts I learned was that casualties were relatively light because Pompeii was being rebuilt and most people hadn't moved back yet.
Rebuilt because it was destroyed by an earthquake sixteen years prior. It's as if Someone really didn't want that town there.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 08, 2017 09:47 AM (gIRsn)
Diane Von Furstenberg, designer of "the wrap dress" on CNN now being toted as a feminist icon
1. She chased monied men and she married money
2. She invented the wrap dress in the heyday of Studio 54. The point was to have a dress you could take off and on quickly in order to be available for
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 09:47 AM (RY9Jq)
Our museum had a special Popeii exhibit, and it included this cool vid of what was going on in the 24 hours leading up to the eruption. Not pretty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY_3ggKg0Bc
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 09:48 AM (NOIQH)
That is just awful. Young men with mental illness are vulnerable to suiciding this way. My friend's son threw himself in front of a trolley at age 21 because he couldn't stand being bipolar anymore. David Bowie's brother laid his head on rail tracks right after being discharged from yet another mental institution.
It's a horrible, catastrophic, nightmare illness.
Posted by: kallisto at March 08, 2017 09:48 AM (nNdYv)
Almost two years post chemo.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 08, 2017 09:47 AM (56nYn)
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Oh no. I hope it's nothing significant.
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 09:48 AM (sBOL1)
Just sayin'.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at March 08, 2017 09:48 AM (bE6x+)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 08, 2017 09:48 AM (9krrF)
Real feminist her
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 09:48 AM (RY9Jq)
Posted by: willow-McGivering at March 08, 2017 09:48 AM (R7cwD)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 08, 2017 09:48 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 09:45 AM (FZYNt)
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Hey ... Its only for day.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 08, 2017 09:48 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: EVLINC! at March 08, 2017 09:49 AM (y3aQB)
Doesn't take much to be a feminist icon, apparently. Just ask Lena Dunham.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 09:49 AM (NOIQH)
Diane Von Furstenberg, designer of "the wrap dress" on CNN now being toted as a feminist icon
1. She chased monied men and she married money
2. She invented the wrap dress in the heyday of Studio 54. The point was to have a dress you could take off and on quickly in order to be available for
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 09:47 AM (RY9Jq)
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Kind of reminds me of Memoirs of a Geisha.
You know, the story about a prostitute that was supposed to be an example of powerful women in history?
Groping for examples.
Be proud of the ones there are, and make new ones. Don't mine the depths for new examples. Make them instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 09:49 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 08, 2017 09:50 AM (0O7c5)
'Yeah, there was this rumbling...and this chick was smoking hot! I had rumblings of my own, iykwimaityd, Joe!'
'Her perky sweater puppies were jostling my man parts about my toga, even as that mountain started spewing! Speaking of spewing...did I mention her breasts?!?'
Joe - 'yeah, I can paint that.'
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 08, 2017 09:50 AM (pUDQf)
Dude ... I just want in on some of that $XX,XXX,XXX tax return shit. Need an Automation and Controls guy ? I'm pretty good at field work. Great on start ups. Twenty years experience.
Call me.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 09:50 AM (nw6G5)
I'm o.k. with this.
Posted by: Beer, Pizza, Guns, and Porn at March 08, 2017 09:50 AM (Ct+pi)
*looks around office*
It seems no one got the memo.
If it helps, think of it as a Day Without Whiny Women.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 09:50 AM (NOIQH)
http://www.warwingsart.com/12thAirForce/Vesuvius.html
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 08, 2017 09:50 AM (R8XuK)
Anyone ever read The Last Days of Pompeii by Edward Bulwer-Lytton.
Am I the only one who found it just kind of okay?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 09:50 AM (ELUpj)
Given the choice of gazing at buxom women who are clothed, or buxom women who are unclothed, which would you choose?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2017 09:51 AM (rF0hx)
Posted by: willow-McGivering at March 08, 2017 09:51 AM (R7cwD)
The bodies were creepy, even including a curled up dog. The worst one for me was a man that had died sitting up holding a cloth to his face.
Anyhow, highly recommend it to anyone in the KC area.
Posted by: HH at March 08, 2017 09:51 AM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 08, 2017 09:44 AM (9krrF)
"there is no difference between Conservatives and Socialists"
I am not sure there is a conclusion to be made here, though I am broken enought to hear echoes of "Surrender Dorothy"
Personally I am going to wait for the flying monkeys first.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 08, 2017 09:52 AM (WQX/u)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 08, 2017 09:52 AM (uSlc8)
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 09:52 AM (R7cwD)
Have you considered putting together a grant application regarding that latter point? We may still have a few ucks left.
Posted by: NSF, NOAA, EPA at March 08, 2017 09:47 AM (TppKb)
Proposal Title:
Mammary Glands and Their Relationship with Climate-Affecting Volcanic Activity: Correlation, Causation, and Firm, Firm Tits
Even if you don't get the grant you get to say that you submitted it.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 08, 2017 09:52 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Ivanka at March 08, 2017 09:52 AM (57R5r)
Given the choice of gazing at buxom women who are clothed, or buxom women who are unclothed, which would you choose?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2017 09:51 AM (rF0hx)
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Serious question:
Were women's breasts considered as sexual at the time?
Is the argument that artists appreciated the form of the human body good enough?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 09:52 AM (ELUpj)
"It was a dark and stormy late, with a shitload of falling rocks and ash..."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 08, 2017 09:52 AM (uSlc8)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 09:53 AM (dFi94)
(In honor of International Women's Day)
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 08, 2017 09:53 AM (wwRzm)
Posted by: Aussie at March 08, 2017 09:53 AM (N/OEj)
Media all a twitter with President Boyfriends upset
Livid
Hurt
Exasperated
Bwhahahahhaaha Bwhahahahhaaha Bwhahahahhaaha
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 09:53 AM (RY9Jq)
YOU ARE SLUT SHAMING!
BEGONE!
SHUN THE WITCH!
Posted by: SJW...Always On The Lookout! at March 08, 2017 09:54 AM (rF0hx)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 09:53 AM (dFi94)
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Well, it sits outside of Naples which is currently pretty much run by the Mafia.
So there's that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 09:54 AM (ELUpj)
Were women's breasts considered as sexual at the time?
Is the argument that artists appreciated the form of the human body good enough?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Pretty sure Larry Flynt ruined it for everybody
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 09:54 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Lady in Black - LONG LIVE THE SCALP WEASEL at March 08, 2017 09:54 AM (+FSld)
Do not try to correct the color yourself, particularly since you want to go lighter. Going lighter means you have to lift color out of the hair first, and if you try to do this yourself, you will trash your hair. If you don't do it first, what you end up with by layering another color on top of what you already have will not result in anything you will be happy with. And you might fry the hair.
Go to a color correcting salon and pay the piper to have your color corrected. They might be able to simply tone your current color to make it more in the direction you like. Any salon that promotes their ability to color hair should have someone on staff with experience in correcting home color mistakes.
As my own stylist says, any stylist who has been working for a year or two will be faced with color corrections.
I get mine done every three to four weeks because if not, I would look like Emmie Lou Harris, and that wouldn't be a good look on me. Lots of discussion about trying to do my own at home....even my stylist says she won't do her own.
Posted by: Jen at March 08, 2017 09:54 AM (K7A0z)
Are you referring to the erotic art they had on the walls of their abodes?
Posted by: kallisto at March 08, 2017 09:54 AM (nNdYv)
Posted by: Tuna at March 08, 2017 09:54 AM (Phln5)
Posted by: runner at March 08, 2017 09:54 AM (VvDTH)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 09:54 AM (ty7RM)
(just trying to get with the feminist deal today in solidarity)
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 09:54 AM (R7cwD)
Not "furious" tho
Sense of decorum
Nevermind the war room and shadow government Obama is operating
But he is hurt and Exasperated
Pppfffffffttttt
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 09:55 AM (RY9Jq)
YOU ARE SLUT SHAMING!
BEGONE!
SHUN THE WITCH!
Posted by: SJW...Always On The Lookout! at March 08, 2017 09:54 AM (rF0hx)
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"Expel him from the world! Also, man, Sarah Palin is a c*nt."
-Very smart college student who's struggling with their core classes but acing that gender studies course
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 09:55 AM (ELUpj)
*looks around office*
It seems no one got the memo."
Yeah, noticed that around here.
Of course, I did see a number of women in red this AM - at the local HEB
(for those not of a Texas persuasion, HEB is a grocery chain that outfits in red polo/t shirts)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 08, 2017 09:55 AM (MINbv)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 09:55 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 08, 2017 09:55 AM (uSlc8)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 08, 2017 09:55 AM (R8XuK)
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Heh. Isn't the allegorical figure of Liberty showing her boobs in that famous Delacroix? Damn dirty French romantics didn't seem to need much of an excuse to throw some boobehs in.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at March 08, 2017 09:55 AM (OVUYQ)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin
likely his collections of photos with goats in compromising positions.
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 09:55 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 08, 2017 09:55 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Pliny the Younger at March 08, 2017 09:56 AM (2Mnv1)
In 1827? Probably.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
Ben Franklin was a tit man
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 09:56 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 09:56 AM (RY9Jq)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 09:56 AM (yoe9p)
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at March 08, 2017 09:55 AM (OVUYQ)
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I don't think any men need much of an excuse for that.
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 09:57 AM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 08, 2017 09:57 AM (uSlc8)
Posted by: kallisto at March 08, 2017 09:57 AM (nNdYv)
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 09:57 AM (R7cwD)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin
Well ... there ain't exactly an Elliot Ness on every street corner. And nothing less will do to lead such a group of Untouchables as the FBI.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 09:57 AM (nw6G5)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 08, 2017 09:58 AM (R8XuK)
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 08, 2017 09:58 AM (BBWB6)
Dante's Pornferno was epic!
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 09:58 AM (4Ru5B)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 09:58 AM (RY9Jq)
Posted by: BLM at March 08, 2017 09:58 AM (+FSld)
Posted by: Javems at March 08, 2017 09:58 AM (yOqwj)
Posted by: Al Gore at March 08, 2017 09:58 AM (vRcUp)
http://tinyurl.com/z2ebb9e
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 09:58 AM (fDdVG)
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 09:59 AM (sBOL1)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 09:59 AM (RY9Jq)
**Spock eyebrow**
Did I just log on to Hot Air?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 08, 2017 09:59 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Vulcanologist at March 08, 2017 09:59 AM (57R5r)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 09:55 AM (dFi94)
Was it a copy of the famous watchdog mosaic "Cave Canem"?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 08, 2017 09:59 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 09:59 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 09:59 AM (R7cwD)
Posted by: DaveA at March 08, 2017 10:00 AM (8J/Te)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 10:00 AM (RY9Jq)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin
I believe the appointment is for a ten year term. I suspect, since Trump can barely get his nominations confirmed, now might not be the optimum time to start that particular battle.
Same with IRS. He still appears to be in the audit process.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 08, 2017 10:00 AM (ZFUt7)
Was it a copy of the famous watchdog mosaic "Cave Canem"?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 08, 2017 09:59 AM (hLRSq)
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Without even digging any further, I'm betting yes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:00 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 08, 2017 10:00 AM (vRcUp)
Were women's breasts considered as sexual at the time?
1827? I'm going with "yes". Time of Ol' Pompeii, I'm still going with "yes".
There is some randy art preserved at Pompeii. My boys and I were looking at a bas-relief when two Canadian girls came up and said "oh, look at that phallic symbol". I said, "that's not a phallic symbol, that's a phallus".
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 08, 2017 10:00 AM (gIRsn)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 09:58 AM (RY9Jq)
President Joe Besser.
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 08, 2017 10:00 AM (wwRzm)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 08, 2017 09:59 AM (hLRSq)
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yes i believe so
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:00 AM (dFi94)
The pyroclastic flow that finally did in Pompeii killed so quickly nobody had any time to suffer. However, the weeks leading up to it were rather unpleasant.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 08, 2017 10:00 AM (uSlc8)
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 08, 2017 09:58 AM (BBWB6)
More like Pluto's Artillery Battery.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 08, 2017 10:00 AM (hLRSq)
Obama told his courtiers to tell the media he wasnt yet furious, but was livid, hurt and Exasperated
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 10:01 AM (RY9Jq)
Obama told his courtiers to tell the media he wasnt yet furious, but was livid, hurt and Exasperated
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 10:01 AM (RY9Jq)
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Did he say that there's no "there" there?
Cause that's when we know that the's super serious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:01 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 09:58 AM (RY9Jq)
The type called "a pretty man" would do that.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 08, 2017 10:02 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 10:01 AM (RY9Jq)
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But, was he clear???
*spit*
Posted by: fixerupper at March 08, 2017 10:02 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 10:02 AM (OEibW)
Posted by: Moron at Pompeii at March 08, 2017 10:02 AM (nw6G5)
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 09:56 AM (FZYNt)
At his weight, he pretty much would be.
Posted by: josephistan at March 08, 2017 10:02 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 10:03 AM (RY9Jq)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 09:55 AM (dFi94)
Does it say "CAVE CANEM" on it?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 08, 2017 10:03 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Under Fire at March 08, 2017 10:03 AM (57R5r)
wouldn't be a good look on me.
Posted by: Jen at March 08, 2017 09:54 AM (K7A0z)
The real question is: Can you sing like Emmylou Harris?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2017 10:03 AM (rF0hx)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 10:03 AM (OEibW)
The type of creature that may perhaps possess a Y chromosome, wears Mom jeans, ride a girl's bike, and can't figure out how to close an umbrella.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 08, 2017 10:03 AM (R8XuK)
Posted by: Algoricus at March 08, 2017 10:03 AM (XoldI)
Posted by: ThunderB
Leader of girlie men.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 10:03 AM (4Ru5B)
He was furious about the accident
livid-enraged; furiously angry:
feeling or appearing strangulated because of strong emotion
ok then.
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:04 AM (R7cwD)
You completely overlooked that tight little bare ass at the bottom of the painting. Hand in your Moron card.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 08, 2017 10:04 AM (uSlc8)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 10:01 AM (RY9Jq)
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Did he say that there's no "there" there?
Cause that's when we know that the's super serious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:01 AM (ELUpj)
As I said in the last thread, Barky's waiting for the Deep State to hand him a script so he can go in front of the MFM and pout. If he goes out now, he'll end up uh-uh-uhing and okey-doking himself right into the slammer.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 08, 2017 10:04 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:04 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: stacyaw at March 08, 2017 10:04 AM (s74o7)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 10:04 AM (4Ru5B)
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 09:59 AM (R7cwD)
Perhaps he was hurt by the Bush' and all white males engaged in Othering as they constantly like a reflex blamed poor and sick citizens for all of their ills and problems of this country.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 08, 2017 10:04 AM (WQX/u)
Posted by: runner at March 08, 2017 10:04 AM (VvDTH)
"Then and Now" :
http://tinyurl.com/hpg8do8
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:04 AM (fDdVG)
Yes . Series called History of Sex showed the various sex businesses in operation in Pompeii . Lots of them.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 08, 2017 10:04 AM (BBWB6)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 08, 2017 10:03 AM (X6fMO)
===============
Yes! It does. At first I couldn't find it but there it was under my Green Bay Packer oven mitts. I like the mitts better.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:05 AM (dFi94)
And they will be so surprised when half of us stay home in 2018
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:05 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 10:05 AM (nw6G5)
Posted by: Under Fire at March 08, 2017 10:05 AM (57R5r)
He has already surpassed truculent and huffy. Next will be the foot stomping.
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:05 AM (sBOL1)
Par.for.the.course
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 08, 2017 10:05 AM (pUDQf)
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:05 AM (R7cwD)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 10:05 AM (RY9Jq)
Have a wonderful yesterday everyone
Good Brit band Bastille and their Pompeii song...
https://tinyurl.com/zwgbe4g
See you all tonight!
Posted by: Aussie at March 08, 2017 10:06 AM (N/OEj)
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FBI chief Comey asserting power like no one in history | New York Post
Posted by: EVLINC! at March 08, 2017 09:46 AM (y3aQB)
He should have been bounced to the curb on day one of the Trump administration.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2017 10:06 AM (493sH)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 10:06 AM (s8yyZ)
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I got a word Starts with F & ends in G
Posted by: EVLINC! at March 08, 2017 10:06 AM (y3aQB)
He has already surpassed truculent and huffy. Next will be the foot stomping.
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:05 AM (sBOL1)
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Maybe he's just gassy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:06 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 10:06 AM (RY9Jq)
What leader of men describes himself publicly as being hurt and Exasperated
The kind who, for eight loooong years, claimed no knowledge or responsibility for any bad thing that happened on his watch --- even when it was committed by his own staff.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:06 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 10:02 AM (OEibW)
how did they stand on Lares et Penates?
Posted by: Kindltot at March 08, 2017 10:07 AM (WQX/u)
http://www.warwingsart.com/12thAirForce/Vesuvius.html
That was impressive. Thanks.
Posted by: mindful webworker, eruptively at March 08, 2017 10:07 AM (CigxG)
The CGI renditions on movies & documentaries are amazing in how fast it moved.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 10:07 AM (4Ru5B)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 10:01 AM (RY9Jq)
Why the poor dear just cried himself to sleep the other night
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2017 10:07 AM (493sH)
Factoid of little value...
The temperature of a cremation oven and pyroclastic flow are roughly equivalent. Approximately 1, 800 degrees (f).
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 08, 2017 10:07 AM (ZFUt7)
He should take notes from that nice Bush guy and allow me my insults.
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:07 AM (R7cwD)
Posted by: runner at March 08, 2017 10:08 AM (VvDTH)
Next on CNN
A graphic of a thermometer in the lower right hand corner with an Obama Emotional Temperature reading
Tell Putin, hes hurt and Exasperated
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 10:08 AM (RY9Jq)
http://www.warwingsart.com/12thAirForce/Vesuv13.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 08, 2017 10:08 AM (R8XuK)
Posted by: Dang at March 08, 2017 10:08 AM (8b+oT)
Posted by: SmileyNh at March 08, 2017 10:08 AM (rgj9x)
Looking forward to the book!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at March 08, 2017 10:09 AM (jjaLl)
Memo to Chuck: Planned Parenthood doesn't own a single mammogram machine. All PP does is refer women to certified clinics and mammogram vans. The only in house "healthcare" PP provides is killing babies.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 10:09 AM (ty7RM)
The temperature of a cremation oven and pyroclastic flow are roughly equivalent. Approximately 1, 800 degrees (f).
That's pretty hot.
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 08, 2017 10:09 AM (uSlc8)
Lyin' Ryan doesn't seem to understand that when he says 'repeal and replace' what we heard was 'repeal, then replace', which is to say, replace with reofrms unrelated to obamacare.
Lies to say the mandate is being repealed.
Insists last election was about his 'better way agenda'.
It also seems to me that blowing this bill up neuters Ryan and the house leadership more than Trump, and is probably worth doing on that ground alone.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:09 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: Killerdog at March 08, 2017 10:09 AM (5gXZz)
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:09 AM (sBOL1)
Posted by: runner at March 08, 2017 10:04 AM (VvDTH)
I could imagine that:
"I know how you feel Baracky. You spend eight years in the most difficult job in the world and as soon as you leave it your successor comes along and blames you for every little thing. I really feel for you, I do."
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 08, 2017 10:09 AM (hLRSq)
Memo to Chuck: Planned Parenthood doesn't own a single mammogram machine. All PP does is refer women to certified clinics and mammogram vans. The only in house "healthcare" PP provides is killing babies.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 10:09 AM (ty7RM)
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"Senator, how can you make this claim when even the head of Planned Parenthood has said that the organization does not perform mammograms?"
-Alternate Universe Press
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:09 AM (ELUpj)
Quisling Ryan is trying to sell his shit sandwich. It repeals Obamacare mandates and taxes. But wait there's more!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2017 10:10 AM (493sH)
Wife: "You came home late last night reeking of booze and perfume, and that pink splotch on your collar sure looks like lipstick. You're having an affair, you b@stard!!!"
Husband: "How could you accuse me of this, after all these years. I buy you this nice house, take you on exotic vacations, and remember your birthday and anniversary every year?!?!? I'm starting to think you don't appreciate what a good man I am to you!"
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:10 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:10 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 08, 2017 10:10 AM (RY9Jq)
You wingnuts with all your facts. There's a Narrative to promote here!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 08, 2017 10:11 AM (uSlc8)
something like that
Posted by: runner at March 08, 2017 10:11 AM (VvDTH)
HaHaHaHa Chuckie Schoooomer: "Millions of women turn to Planned Parenthood for mammograms..."
Memo to Chuck: Planned Parenthood doesn't own a single mammogram
machine. All PP does is refer women to certified clinics and mammogram
vans. The only in house "healthcare" PP provides is killing babies.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 10:09 AM (ty7RM)
wouldn't you think pp would have purchased machines by now? just to shut us all up?
Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 08, 2017 10:11 AM (0O7c5)
"There boy. Now you'll have something to be hurt and exasperated about. Now dry that shit up. You're acting like a little faggot bitch."
Posted by: Father of ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 10:11 AM (nw6G5)
Quisling Ryan is trying to sell his shit sandwich. It repeals Obamacare mandates and taxes. But wait there's more!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2017 10:10 AM (493sH)
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TBH, I'm selfishly hoping that the employer mandate gets repealed quickly. I'm kind of okay with that happening faster than anything else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:11 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Ivanka at March 08, 2017 10:11 AM (57R5r)
http://www.warwingsart.com/12thAirForce/12thAF041.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 08, 2017 10:11 AM (R8XuK)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 08, 2017 10:00 AM (gIRsn)
FIFY
Posted by: blaster at March 08, 2017 10:12 AM (tewYv)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 09:53 AM (dFi94)
It's an incredibly fascinating place. Especially if you're a history nerd like I am. But yes they did seem to like naughty art
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2017 10:12 AM (493sH)
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:12 AM (3Liv/)
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Dyson: Trump Has 'Tried to Retroactively Abort' Obama 'From the Womb of Democracy'
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http://bit.ly/2mFJmZY
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This chucklehead is Oswald Bates
Posted by: EVLINC! at March 08, 2017 10:12 AM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:10 AM (3Liv/)
--------
*whispers in Ryans ear*
"Eric Cantor"
Posted by: fixerupper at March 08, 2017 10:12 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at March 08, 2017 10:12 AM (bE6x+)
I knew that B-25s were old planes, but I had no idea how old.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 08, 2017 10:13 AM (uSlc8)
"weep, o girls, for my penis has abandoned you. now it penetrates mens' rears. farewell wondrous feminity!"
#daywithoutwomen
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 10:13 AM (NyR0Q)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at March 08, 2017 10:13 AM (bE6x+)
Posted by: Ryan at March 08, 2017 10:13 AM (57R5r)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:13 AM (fDdVG)
No connection to reality at all.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:13 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2017 10:12 AM (493sH)
that was the whole Roman empire; and then it fell
Posted by: runner at March 08, 2017 10:13 AM (VvDTH)
Posted by: steevy at March 08, 2017 10:14 AM (r/0kC)
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:12 AM (3Liv/)
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I can honestly imagine this "Stage 1" bill passing leading to good things.
It's just that I don't think anyone really trusts Republican leadership to follow through, including the leadership themselves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:14 AM (ELUpj)
I'm confused - I thought abortion was a good thing?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:14 AM (NOIQH)
I'm confused - I thought abortion was a good thing?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:14 AM (NOIQH)
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::gold clap::
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:15 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Max Power at March 08, 2017 10:15 AM (QCc6B)
Posted by: steevy
Seems fair, Barry spent 8+ years running against Bush.
Trump needs to go campaign mode agansit O
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 10:15 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:14 AM (NOIQH)
Got that right. Especially for black people.
Posted by: Margaret Sanger, Leftist Icon at March 08, 2017 10:15 AM (uSlc8)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:14 AM (NOIQH)
They're confused too. They never ever had a Chief Disruptor as their opposition.
Posted by: kallisto at March 08, 2017 10:15 AM (nNdYv)
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 10:16 AM (FZYNt)
I think you may be right.
Which would take one HELL of a lot of sheltering. You'd think, at least at a party or something, some guy would have told Barry to STFU.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 10:16 AM (nw6G5)
...
It also seems to me that blowing this bill up neuters Ryan and the house leadership more than Trump, and is probably worth doing on that ground alone.
====
*nods solemnly*
I think Trump is canny enough to feel the rumbling and change course.
Ryan, on the other hand, will be caught totally off guard when the base explodes. He'll run out the door tits aflapping.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at March 08, 2017 10:18 AM (OVUYQ)
Posted by: steevy at March 08, 2017 10:18 AM (r/0kC)
wouldn't you think pp would have purchased machines by now? just to shut us all up?
Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training
Lamborghini doesn't make them.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 08, 2017 10:18 AM (IqV8l)
::gold clap::
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:15 AM (ELUpj)
Even the clap is classy & luxurious in the Age of Trump.
Posted by: josephistan at March 08, 2017 10:18 AM (7HtZB)
gets repealed quickly. I'm kind of okay with that happening faster than
anything else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:11 AM (ELUpj)
There is no 'something happening faster'.
There will be one bill passed, and when it's done, the GOP will spend the rest of its time until Nov 2018 patting itself on the back for having 'done something' and expect us to reward them at the polls.
They wouldn't have released a pre-compromised bill if they intended to do anything more.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:18 AM (3Liv/)
Which would take one HELL of a lot of sheltering. You'd think, at least at a party or something, some guy would have told Barry to STFU.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 10:16 AM (nw6G5)
I'm sure when Barry was out partying with the guys his mouth was always full
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2017 10:19 AM (493sH)
Posted by: Under Fire at March 08, 2017 10:19 AM (57R5r)
HaHaHaHa Chuckie Schoooomer: "Millions of women turn to Planned Parenthood for mammograms..."
Memo to Chuck: Planned Parenthood doesn't own a single mammogram
machine. All PP does is refer women to certified clinics and mammogram
vans. The only in house "healthcare" PP provides is killing babies.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 10:09 AM (ty7RM)
wouldn't you think pp would have purchased machines by now? just to shut us all up?
Posted by: phoenixgirl..spring training at March 08, 2017 10:11 AM (0O7c5)
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Why waste the money when they know the media won't hold them to account?
Posted by: Independent George at March 08, 2017 10:19 AM (BDZWU)
Posted by: JEM at March 08, 2017 10:19 AM (TppKb)
Statue of Liberty goes dark, lights up - and the symbolism is not lost
Lady Liberty takes a stand
Statue of Liberty goes dark and Twitter lit up
388 articles so far.... SMOD take me away...
Posted by: Nathan R. Jessup at March 08, 2017 10:19 AM (TixTl)
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From breasts in art, to Roman preference-changing graffiti, to dialogue from a gay sex party? Stoppit.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 08, 2017 10:20 AM (SsblQ)
I think you should consider finding Chuck'e e-mail address at the Senate and mailing that to him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:20 AM (fDdVG)
I'll say again, I think many people would feel a lot better about what is going on if they would take some time and educate themselves about the process and what can and can't be done with various different legislative processes.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 10:20 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: WaitingForMartel at March 08, 2017 10:21 AM (BYSrJ)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 08, 2017 10:21 AM (IqV8l)
I sure see a lot of womyns around for this day without them. I guess only leftist school teachers were participating. For the children of course
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2017 10:21 AM (493sH)
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well.... why the hell do you think I had to go back to Chicago??
Posted by: Rahm Immanuel at March 08, 2017 10:21 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 08, 2017 10:21 AM (pUDQf)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 09:53 AM
So...no plans to visit San Fran, then?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 08, 2017 10:21 AM (p+Wdc)
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Well they had an unexpected decline in sales of remainder items due to some videos or something. Much tighter budget.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 08, 2017 10:21 AM (SsblQ)
And equally large numbers of men turn to the National Rifle Association for prostate cancer prevention. So where's the federal funding for that?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 08, 2017 10:22 AM (uSlc8)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 08, 2017 10:22 AM (R8XuK)
Hah ha ha ha hah .. oh I can't breath.,. ha ha
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 08, 2017 10:22 AM (BBWB6)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2017 09:51 AM (rF0hx)
I completely understand the 'sex drives viewership' aspect. I was just wondering what response was the painter trying to evoke by going big on the breastes.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 08, 2017 10:22 AM (zGttg)
Posted by: Max Power at March 08, 2017 10:23 AM (QCc6B)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 08, 2017 10:21 AM (IqV8l)
Are they bouncing up and down as they ride in slo-mo?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2017 10:23 AM (493sH)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 08, 2017 10:23 AM (B+qrE)
Bradford Exchange collector plate sales?
Posted by: Thomas Kinkade at March 08, 2017 10:23 AM (uSlc8)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 08, 2017 10:21 AM (pUDQf)
edited for accuracy...
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at March 08, 2017 10:24 AM (jjaLl)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2017 09:51 AM (rF0hx)
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You know damn well there are some women that look better clothed than nekkid.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 08, 2017 10:24 AM (8XRCm)
You're alright. I don't care what anyone says.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 08, 2017 10:24 AM (zGttg)
Posted by: stacyaw at March 08, 2017 10:04 AM (s74o7)
:::mixes baking soda and vinegar and adjusts binoculars:::
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at March 08, 2017 10:25 AM (p5rtE)
Posted by: Nathan R. Jessup at March 08, 2017 10:25 AM (TixTl)
Yes.
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 08, 2017 10:25 AM (wwRzm)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2017 09:51 AM (rF0hx)
I'd take 2 and hit to right
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 10:25 AM (KlI/a)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 08, 2017 10:21 AM (p+Wdc)
======================
I visited SF in '89. My plane landed at 4:20. I got to my hotel at 4:45. I took a trolley down to the Marina a few minutes before 5. The giant earthquake that set the Marina on fire happened at 5:05. I was stranded in SF for three days with no hotel (collapsed), no clothes (suitcase inside of collapsed hotel), no transportation (streetcars couldn't run) and no way out.
So, no.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:26 AM (dFi94)
I prefer the before and after scenario. Adds to the experience.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 08, 2017 10:27 AM (BBWB6)
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 08, 2017 10:27 AM (MIKMs)
is going on if they would take some time and educate themselves about
the process and what can and can't be done with various different
legislative processes.
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The first thing that should be done is a straight up repeal of everything in the ACA. Let the senators take the hard vote that will be used against them the next time they face the voters. Maybe you get a surprise from the dems up in 2018 and it passes, and then you're done.
Then, if you're not going to repeal obamacare in this congress, stop pretending that you're keeping your promise to repeal it. Pass individual line by line bills repealing each mandate separately, each tax separately, and so on with respect to every single thing in obamacare and prove in public what parts of it which congresscum are refusing to get rid of. And then run against them in 2018 so you have a congress capable of keeping its promise.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:27 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at March 08, 2017 10:27 AM (p5rtE)
Posted by: H Badger at March 08, 2017 10:27 AM (n/0Nw)
Nice work if you can get it I guess?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 10:27 AM (KlI/a)
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at March 08, 2017 10:28 AM (jjaLl)
It's up to the people promoting a bill to make their case.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:28 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:28 AM (fDdVG)
Yes.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 10:28 AM (4Ru5B)
It's like you people don't even see me ...
Posted by: Tight Buns at Bottom of Painting at March 08, 2017 10:28 AM (nw6G5)
I'm here to judge.
He's an effing dirty hippie.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 08, 2017 10:28 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: JackStraw
Process, process, process, it's not about the process, it's that we have zero reason to trust the people engaged in it.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 08, 2017 10:28 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 08, 2017 10:28 AM (R8XuK)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 08, 2017 10:22 AM (zGttg)
Chaos. Panic. Things have gone so bad so quickly that people do not have time to get dressed. They are clutching whatever clothing or bedsheets were available and are blindly fleeing into the night.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 08, 2017 10:29 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at March 08, 2017 10:29 AM (iXvCN)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 08, 2017 10:29 AM (R8XuK)
Betsy Russell?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy
Nipsey Russell was nicer looking.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 10:29 AM (4Ru5B)
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 08, 2017 10:29 AM (wwRzm)
Posted by: @votermom's phone at March 08, 2017 10:30 AM (55x9i)
So Aussies have figured out how to make a traffic light that dispenses sandwiches and refuses to have sex with you? Oh, and, 1 week out of the month it just blinks back and fourth between red and green in 2 second cycles?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 10:30 AM (ty7RM)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 08, 2017 10:31 AM (IqV8l)
Uh....there is a finely shaped backside too....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2017 10:31 AM (rF0hx)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 08, 2017 10:29 AM (R8XuK)
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This is why I go to the U.P. - Nothing much there to wreck.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:31 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 08, 2017 10:31 AM (IqV8l)
Directly towards the blast of course
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 10:32 AM (KlI/a)
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 08, 2017 10:32 AM (BBWB6)
Seriously, have you been watching what has been going on in the Senate over the last 2 months? In what universe where Chuck Schumer has voted against the Senate Majorities wife, a woman who is extremely qualified for her job, do you think he is going to rally his troops to repeal a law they fought like hell to put in place and which their base will riot if they help repeal? It isn't going to happen.
People keep talking about how they already had a repeal vote last year. No they did not. They had a defund bill which is very similar to this one using the exact same reconciliation process. So if you want them to do what they did last year, celebrate, they are.
They are taking out all the funding processes for Obamacare including both the individual and employer mandate. They are increasing the speed and guaranteeing it will fail. That's what's really happening right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 10:32 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
They're alike in another way--if you wait until you know it's underway, it's too late.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 08, 2017 10:32 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 08, 2017 10:32 AM (pUDQf)
Related:
Anyone ever read The Last Days of Pompeii by Edward Bulwer-Lytton.
Am I the only one who found it just kind of okay?"
They're OK, the last days of Pompeii, I'll be breathing dry air...
Posted by: Richard Cranium at March 08, 2017 10:33 AM (ZBO0C)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 08, 2017 10:33 AM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 10:33 AM (KlI/a)
And they will be so surprised when half of us stay home in 2018
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:05 AM (3Liv/)
If you listened to Trump and the other GOP candidates through the campaign, they all said, Trump included, that at every rally, town hall, etc. they were told by those in attendance that they wanted any new health care bill to include forcing insurance companies to accept those with preexisting conditions and they liked being able to keep kids on their insurance until age 26 because so many college grads can't find jobs.
Go out and talk to your neighbors ,friends, etc. The vast majority will tell you that exact same thing. It's become a typical American thing, rail against government dictates and yet demand the government dictate when it benefits you personally.
If you all think these two inclusions in the current GOP bill are bait and switch, you weren't listening this past summer and fall. They have said all along that these two mandates would stay.
I do remember Rand P, and other's proposing to create high risk pools for those with preexisting conditions in order to satisfy that overwhelming demand from citizens.
Also, people keep complaining about how insurance should be free market, etc. There isn't an insurance market out there that is "free". All insurance is overseen by the government, typically the state. State's have insurance regulatory agencies that regulate how insurance is sold, what is offered in policies, how much reserve cash insurance companies must maintain, how much premium increases can occur each year, etc. It's basically a government function funneled through private companies who can profit to some extent.
Remember the health care insurance analyst who regularly called into Rush during the Obamacare passage and subsequent lawsuits? Her calls were very eye opening on exactly what the Democrats were doing to existing insurance companies with Obamacare in order to pave a path to single payer. And exactly how incredibly regulated insurance companies were.
Posted by: Jen at March 08, 2017 10:33 AM (K7A0z)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:34 AM (fDdVG)
Yeah, all of that is obvious.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 08, 2017 10:34 AM (zGttg)
Yay! I got an appointment this morning at the salon. They are going to correct my tragic color accident. Now I don't have to meet the fiance's side of the family looking like I have dog poo on my head!
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:35 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:35 AM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 08, 2017 10:35 AM (wwRzm)
in 71 AD a lot of those prostitutes would have been Jewish, from the revolt. by 79 that batch were probably too old
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 10:35 AM (wSZhv)
Yeah, that's the NAMBLA* line of thinking: "It was common in ancient Greece..."
Yeah, well the world grew up deviants!
* If you don't know what this is, don't look it up. NSFW for sure.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 10:35 AM (ty7RM)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at March 08, 2017 10:36 AM (iXvCN)
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:35 AM (sBOL1)
It changes it's mind and color every 5 seconds? ( NGU Ducks)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 10:36 AM (KlI/a)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:34 AM (fDdVG)
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You'd be surprised. Don't ask me how I know.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:36 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:34 AM (fDdVG)
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I would think the same. Maybe he gets it because he's schizo and wasn't "responsible" for his actions.
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:36 AM (sBOL1)
Grammie Winger - dog poo brown hair? Oh dear... I guess it beats having neon green hair by accident though now that is a 'normal' color in certain circles.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 08, 2017 10:37 AM (R8XuK)
This is why I go to the U.P. - Nothing much there to wreck.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:31 AM (dFi94)
Account for your whereabouts on the day the Edmund Fitzgerald sank.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 08, 2017 10:37 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:35 AM (dFi94)
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Hooray, grammie! I'm sure they'll make it all better.
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:37 AM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Indiana Jones at March 08, 2017 10:37 AM (vg8iE)
Section 1. The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
Section 2. The transportation or importation into any State,
Territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use
therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is
hereby prohibited.
Section 3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall
have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in
the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years
from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:37 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 10:38 AM (NFLO+)
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:35 AM (sBOL1)
They ask, Do you think I look better in red or how about the yellow? Let me try the green on. No, I think the red looks better. What do you think?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2017 10:38 AM (493sH)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 10:36 AM (KlI/a)
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*whacks NGU upside the head with a skillet*
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:38 AM (sBOL1)
Why do you hate orphans?
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 08, 2017 10:39 AM (ZFUt7)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 10:35 AM
So in AoSHQ terms, they were born in 49 AD or earlier, correct?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 08, 2017 10:39 AM (39cXK)
They are taking out all the funding processes for Obamacare including both the individual and employer mandate. They are increasing the speed and guaranteeing it will fail. That's what's really happening right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 10:32 AM (/tuJf)
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My main gripe is that they seem to have blocked the conservative wing from contributing to this version of the bill before its release. It's pretty much a purely political argument that feeds the idea that leadership can't be trusted.
Trump insisting that this bill move through committees is encouraging, allowing for those members of Congress to contribute. Let's see if Ryan does it, though it could make his early April deadline hard to hit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:39 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 08, 2017 10:33 AM (pUDQf)
If you stop on red it starts screaming at you that it really meant green, and if you cared about her you'd know that, you insensitive asshole, and if you don't already get it there's no point explaining it.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 08, 2017 10:39 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 08, 2017 10:37 AM (B+qrE)
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I make it a point never to go down to the lakefront of Superior in November. Or anytime after September. Or anytime before June. Too darn cold. But July and August are nice.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:39 AM (dFi94)
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Their gods were going around raping chicks all the time. Like the Clintons and the Kennedys.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 08, 2017 10:39 AM (Nwg0u)
Seriously, have you been watching what has been going on in the Senate over the last 2 months?
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You are unclear on the meaning of 'maybe'?
The point is you have as many hard votes as possible for folks that want to protect obamacare in both parties. At some point *maybe* they break, and if they don't you remind the voters in 2018 why obamacare is still around.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:40 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at March 08, 2017 10:40 AM (zRZaJ)
Can you think of any women you actually like, insomniac?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:40 AM (fDdVG)
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:35 AM (sBOL1)
I'm assuming that the LED figure is wearing a dress, like the sign outside the ladies room? But those signs are decried as sexist & transphobic, so there's no pleasing these people.
Posted by: josephistan at March 08, 2017 10:40 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Woman Driver at March 08, 2017 10:40 AM (XoldI)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 10:38 AM
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Taupe at March 08, 2017 10:40 AM (39cXK)
Remember the health care insurance analyst who regularly called into Rush during the Obamacare passage and subsequent lawsuits? Her calls were very eye opening on exactly what the Democrats were doing to existing insurance companies with Obamacare in order to pave a path to single payer. And exactly how incredibly regulated insurance companies were.
Posted by: Jen at March 08, 2017 10:33 AM (K7A0z)
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We haven't had anything approaching a free market in healthcare since about the 30s.
We didn't get into this mess overnight, and we're not going to get out of it overnight.
It's going to take time and many steps.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:41 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 08, 2017 10:41 AM (P/aDH)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2017 10:31 AM (rF0hx)
No shit? I hadn't noticed.
Thanks Captain Obvious.
I wonder why the painter has that victim down away from the main part of the image, and she is turned away whereas the others are facing the viewer.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 08, 2017 10:41 AM (zGttg)
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 08, 2017 10:41 AM (BBWB6)
Posted by: Ahnold at March 08, 2017 10:41 AM (57R5r)
Posted by: steevy at March 08, 2017 10:41 AM (r/0kC)
Oh Bullshit. Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit.
The parties themselves invented most of this "process" as an excuse to fool the rubes (that's us) into believing they're not in collusion, and to excuse their own incompetent asses for not being able to deliver on their promises.
The are only two groups that will feel better for us buying into the notion that the same politicians that passed multiple clean repeal bills ... WITHOUT VETO-PROOF MAJORITIES ... suddenly can't do the same ...
... the lying bastards themselves. And their full-time defenders (that's you).
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 10:41 AM (nw6G5)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 10:38 AM (NFLO+)
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I'll send you an invite to Son's wedding. I'm wearing a slightly deeper shade of that. Earrings to match. That's why I can't have dog poo hair. Champagne blonde goes much better.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:41 AM (dFi94)
You ever take the ferry out to Isle Royal NP? I've been out there multiple times on extended backpacking trips. it's incredibly wild, remote and beautiful.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 10:42 AM (ty7RM)
Posted by: RioBravo at March 08, 2017 10:42 AM (SsblQ)
I think they are doing this because the Freedom Caucus keeps insisting on a straight repeal vote which will fail. There is no way in hell you are getting 60 votes in the Senate no matter how many times people keep saying it will happen. Now that is kabuki.
There are not 8 Democrat Senators who would vote for it and there are at least 4 Republicans who say they won't do it unless there is some measure that deals with Medicaid so you are right back at square 1.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 10:42 AM (/tuJf)
Can you think of any women you actually like, insomniac?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:40 AM (fDdVG)
A few.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 08, 2017 10:42 AM (0mRoj)
but in honour of Wymens Day, would it not be appropriate to start some threads featuring attractive Conservative women?
preferably in fishnets
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 10:43 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 08, 2017 10:43 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 08, 2017 10:43 AM (NFLO+)
Do you include Trump in any of this collusion?
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 08, 2017 10:43 AM (BBWB6)
Go for the metal flake cobalt blue.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 08, 2017 10:43 AM (hLRSq)
I know nothing about her politics.
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at March 08, 2017 10:43 AM (Kr0FZ)
There are a couple of Mexican weather "reporters" that might bump ratings a bit.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 10:43 AM (ty7RM)
Posted by: steevy at March 08, 2017 10:41 AM (r/0kC)
It's funny to me - the liberal answer to their failing network shows is to always assume it's not liberal enough. Economics are just an inconvenient truth to them.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 08, 2017 10:43 AM (pUDQf)
preferably in fishnets
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 10:43 AM (FZYNt)
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What, the boobs and bums at the top of this thread aren't enough for you? There's no pleasing some of you people.
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:44 AM (sBOL1)
Never happened and I challenge you to show me one time a clean repeal bill, not a defund bill that went through reconciliation, passed the House and the Senate.
I'll wait.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 10:44 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: steevy
So Olbermann is coming back?
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 10:44 AM (FZYNt)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 08, 2017 10:44 AM (zGttg)
Section 1. The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
Section 2. The transportation or importation into any State,
Territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use
therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is
hereby prohibited.
Section 3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall
have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in
the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years
from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:37 AM (3Liv/)
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That passed with at least a 2/3 majority in both chambers of congress and was ratified by 3/4 of the states.
Do you think that could happen in today's Congress and states with an ACA repeal?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:44 AM (ELUpj)
*Cough* anchor babies *cough*
That'd be a no.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 10:44 AM (4Ru5B)
https://www.libertyislandmag.com/creator/atelier/content.html?ln=obamapei
Guess I should depart the blog and get some writing done.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 08, 2017 10:44 AM (R8XuK)
Posted by: Under Fire at March 08, 2017 10:44 AM (57R5r)
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:44 AM (R7cwD)
Posted by: steevy at March 08, 2017 10:41 AM (r/0kC)
She could go all the way? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: josephistan at March 08, 2017 10:45 AM (7HtZB)
been out there multiple times on extended backpacking trips. it's
incredibly wild, remote and beautiful.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 10:42 AM (ty7RM)
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We did that once - so pretty. We often take the ferry over to Mackinac Island too. Love it there. Sometimes we time it so we're there to see the sailboats come in from the Chicago - Mackinac race.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:45 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: steevy at March 08, 2017 10:45 AM (r/0kC)
377 puts carmel coffee cake on table.
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:44 AM (R7cwD)
And...??
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 08, 2017 10:45 AM (pUDQf)
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:45 AM (sBOL1)
"Tomsh'allah": if it pleases Tom, it will be so.
Posted by: General Zod at March 08, 2017 10:46 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 08, 2017 10:46 AM (0mRoj)
There are not 8 Democrat Senators who would vote for it and there are at least 4 Republicans who say they won't do it unless there is some measure that deals with Medicaid so you are right back at square 1.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 10:42 AM (/tuJf)
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True, but straight repeal seems like a great place to begin a negotiation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:46 AM (ELUpj)
and switch, you weren't listening this past summer and fall. They have
said all along that these two mandates would stay.
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Then there's no point doing anything.
Unless you prevent coverage of preconditions, either at the government or individual insurance company level, there is no possible constraint on claims against the company, which means there's no upper bound on the rates it must charge the people who are actually buying insurance rather than demanding someone else pay for their known medical expenses.
Which will eventually bankrupt each company, and the federal government (which is more likely to take the form of the destruction of the dollar).
At which point, neither this, nor any other political discussion, matters.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:46 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Bladerunner: The Musical at March 08, 2017 10:43 AM (hLRSq)
That would be a terrible color for hair. Blues always seem muddy as a hair dye, even with glitter.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 08, 2017 10:46 AM (WQX/u)
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But you can inherit if you aren't guilty of at least voluntary manslaughter even if you killed the testator. If you are koo koo bananas and thought you were killing a demon instead of mom, you are not guilty and can inherit.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 08, 2017 10:46 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Kindltot at March 08, 2017 10:46 AM (WQX/u)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 08, 2017 10:47 AM (2x9LM)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:47 AM (fDdVG)
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:47 AM (R7cwD)
So Aussies have figured out how to make a traffic light that dispenses sandwiches and refuses to have sex with you? Oh, and, 1 week out of the month it just blinks back and fourth between red and green in 2 second cycles?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 10:30 AM (ty7RM)
You're never getting laid again...
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin's wife at March 08, 2017 10:47 AM (27k1O)
Blue tinge with the mothball smell.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 10:47 AM (4Ru5B)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2017 10:48 AM (TOk1P)
So Aussies have figured out how to make a traffic light that dispenses sandwiches and refuses to have sex with you? Oh, and, 1 week out of the month it just blinks back and fourth between red and green in 2 second cycles?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 10:30 AM (ty7RM)
You're never getting laid again...
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin's wife at March 08, 2017 10:47 AM (27k1O)
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Well, not by a woman...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:48 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:48 AM (R7cwD)
This will obviously infuriate the trans community for being left out. This is how we got three bathrooms...
Posted by: Nathan R. Jessup at March 08, 2017 10:48 AM (TixTl)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:48 AM (fDdVG)
preferably in fishnets
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 10:43 AM (FZYNt)
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What, the boobs and bums at the top of this thread aren't enough for you? There's no pleasing some of you people.
Posted by: bluebell
Sorry I don't post pics, but being from Canada, here is a sample, google Michelle Rempel
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 10:48 AM (FZYNt)
I'll wait.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 10:44 AM (/tuJf)
Why, it's like everything they said for the last 7 years was BS. But now, they're totes telling the truth and they're gonna do this sensibly in stages.
Fuck them. Repeal it. Start from scratch and quit screwing around or go home
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 08, 2017 10:48 AM (zGttg)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 08, 2017 10:48 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: The Truth Is Out There at March 08, 2017 10:48 AM (39cXK)
O.K. :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:47 AM (fDdVG)
Like I said, in close relationships no. My experience has been seeing the stereotypical hysterical female insanity up close and personal at enormous cost to myself.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 08, 2017 10:49 AM (0mRoj)
http://tinyurl.com/h6opgtq
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 10:49 AM (/tuJf)
We didn't get into this mess overnight, and we're not going to get out of it overnight.
It's going to take time and many steps.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:41 AM (ELUpj)
Exactly. Insurance became tied to employment because of wage and price freezes dictated by Roosevelt. In order to try to compete with other companies to secure the best employees, companies that could afford it started offering medical care payment assistance. Then it really rolled into place with the large industrial unions, until every company had to offer health care insurance in order to either attract employees or were dictated to do so under collective bargaining agreements.
And so here we are today. Trying to continue the coupling of insurance with employement, while also reducing costs for the employer and employee, while covering those who don't have a job.
It's impossible, but we are still trying to do it.
Posted by: Jen at March 08, 2017 10:49 AM (K7A0z)
Posted by: Sherriff Bart at March 08, 2017 10:49 AM (XoldI)
So Aussies have figured out how to make a traffic light that dispenses sandwiches and refuses to have sex with you? Oh, and, 1 week out of the month it just blinks back and fourth between red and green in 2 second cycles?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin
You're never getting laid again...
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin's wife
Ha! You can't cut him off!
You don't know where he's getting it!
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 10:49 AM (4Ru5B)
Bluebell of course it's for you guys.
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:47 AM (R7cwD)
It's working..I was just hoping for some good coffee too. ;0
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 08, 2017 10:49 AM (pUDQf)
****
The lens is taco shaped?
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at March 08, 2017 10:49 AM (uhftQ)
They've got to use up all those personal days somehow.
Did they attack Israel yet?
Posted by: Mathers at March 08, 2017 10:49 AM (mDmux)
Just another privilege.
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 08, 2017 10:50 AM (BBWB6)
So Aussies have figured out how to make a traffic light that dispenses sandwiches and refuses to have sex with you? Oh, and, 1 week out of the month it just blinks back and fourth between red and green in 2 second cycles?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 10:30 AM (ty7RM)
You're never getting laid again...
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin's wife at March 08, 2017 10:47 AM (27k1O)
Really... I keep his calendar, if you know what I mean. And I think you don't.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin's Secretary at March 08, 2017 10:50 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: steevy at March 08, 2017 10:50 AM (r/0kC)
youtube.com/watch?v=t2dct9ErA_g
Posted by: Darth Randall at March 08, 2017 10:50 AM (6n332)
"Wives, submit to your husbands, as to the Lord" Ephesians 5:22
How's that?
bbl
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:51 AM (dFi94)
So even their fight against sexism is sexist. Dumb bints.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 08, 2017 10:51 AM (oVJmc)
sorry I was being absent minded (typical yes?)
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:51 AM (R7cwD)
Posted by: Sam at March 08, 2017 10:51 AM (pvwwD)
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 08, 2017 10:51 AM (1GMPq)
Posted by: steevy at March 08, 2017 10:51 AM (r/0kC)
There are a couple of Mexican weather "reporters" that might bump ratings a bit.
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Especially if their back fields are in motion.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 08, 2017 10:52 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:52 AM (R7cwD)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 10:52 AM (4Ru5B)
Posted by: rickl at March 08, 2017 10:52 AM (zoehZ)
youtube.com/watch?v=t2dct9ErA_g
Posted by: Darth Randall at March 08, 2017 10:50 AM (6n332)
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I posted the link to that video yesterday in J.J. Sefton's morning report thread. Definitely a must watch and worth everyone's time.
Posted by: Independent George at March 08, 2017 10:52 AM (BDZWU)
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Trump certainly deserves blame for endorsing the shit sandwich.
It looks like he mainly let congresscum do whatever they wanted to do and promised he'd support it.
Which, oddly enough, was pretty much how obama handled obamacare.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 10:52 AM (3Liv/)
"Wives, submit to your husbands, as to the Lord" Ephesians 5:22
How's that?
bbl
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:51 AM (dFi94)
That'll definitely make some heads explode.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 08, 2017 10:52 AM (0mRoj)
They didn't lie. People hear what they want to hear.
The only bill that made it through the Senate was a defund bill that was done in the exact same process that is being used now, reconciliation, and it was virtually the same bill as now, a defund bill that will help kill Obamacare.
The hearings just started in Ways and Means and if you think this isn't killing Obamacare watch the Democrats going insane.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 10:52 AM (/tuJf)
This new bill is not doing the same thing as the previous bill. That bill ended the medicaid expansion, the new bill keeps it and also reformats the subsidies as tax credits.
Posted by: MAGA at March 08, 2017 10:53 AM (A4HOq)
I haven't decided if I like that or not...
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:53 AM (R7cwD)
It's impossible, but we are still trying to do it.
Posted by: Jen at March 08, 2017 10:49 AM (K7A0z)
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It'd be nice if the government simply ended the tax protection of employer directed health insurance, but that's politically impossible (tax increases!).
Extending that to individual coverage is a step in the right direction.
I don't think I'd want to go this far, but forcing insurance companies to keep employers and individuals in the same risk pool.
Eh, the single biggest problem with insurance portability is really the fact that the real cost of the insurance is hidden from the employee. The employer usually pays at least half of the premium, and while they may tell their employees about it once a year at open enrollment, it's not something that employees know about on a gut level.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:53 AM (ELUpj)
Someone at this doc office has a duck quack as a ring tone.
I kinda like it.
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 08, 2017 10:51 AM (1GMPq)
It can be yours!
http://tinyurl.com/h9ayptk
Posted by: Sam at March 08, 2017 10:53 AM (pvwwD)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:54 AM (fDdVG)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 10:52 AM (/tuJf)
Low Bar
VERY low bar
LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 10:54 AM (KlI/a)
Say, was there any mention of red lines and/or changing calculus?
Cuz if there was, then we'd know he was about to go Red Barry on us all, and open a can of momjeans on our asses.
Posted by: Twin Cities Daydrunk, Advocating violence upon climate changers at March 08, 2017 10:54 AM (1aMQH)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 10:55 AM (KlI/a)
I'd say it's ironic that this is being announced on International Women's Day, but it's probably a safe bet Nike did this on purpose, what with sharia-loving muslim women being so embedded (like ticks) in the US women's march activities. The west seems to be proud of itself for supporting the hijab and and burkini. Pathetic.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:55 AM (NOIQH)
The hearings just started in Ways and Means and if you think this isn't killing Obamacare watch the Democrats going insane.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 10:52 AM (/tuJf)
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I'm on your side of this argument, JackStraw, but Democrats going insane doesn't feel like compelling evidence.
If Republicans put forward a bill that said, "The ACA is from here on known as Trumpcare. The End." They'd still go insane.
Because they are insane.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:55 AM (ELUpj)
Don't call Barry's bluff, yo!
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:56 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: steevy at March 08, 2017 10:56 AM (r/0kC)
I'd say it's ironic that this is being announced on International Women's Day, but it's probably a safe bet Nike did this on purpose, what with sharia-loving muslim women being so embedded (like ticks) in the US women's march activities. The west seems to be proud of itself for supporting the hijab and and burkini. Pathetic.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:55 AM (NOIQH)
Should be hot seller, since there are so many muslim female athletes??????????
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 10:56 AM (KlI/a)
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 08, 2017 10:52 AM (0mRoj)
Only women who are not Christians and/or do not understand the entire context of the passage.-particularly the part about loving and laying down your life for your wife,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:56 AM (fDdVG)
Not really. It extends if for a couple years to help in the transition but it is also going to start sending what basically amounts to block grants back to the state to let them spend it as they see fit.
The first Dem out of the box in the hearings, Neal of MA, was freaking out that governors would use the money to fill pot holes instead of using it for healthcare so they know what's in there.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 10:56 AM (/tuJf)
I'm with you. "Iron my shirt" was better.
For Hispanic women I'm told it's "Cut up my steak."
Posted by: Mathers at March 08, 2017 10:56 AM (mDmux)
got to my hotel at 4:45. I took a trolley down to the Marina a few
minutes before 5. The giant earthquake that set the Marina on fire
happened at 5:05. I was stranded in SF for three days with no hotel
(collapsed), no clothes (suitcase inside of collapsed hotel), no
transportation (streetcars couldn't run) and no way out.
So, no.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 08, 2017 10:26 AM
O_O
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 08, 2017 10:56 AM (p+Wdc)
Posted by: Roberta Marley and the Whiners at March 08, 2017 10:56 AM (IqV8l)
I'm thinking "The Romans had potatoes?"
Posted by: JAS at March 08, 2017 10:57 AM (4sHXv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:56 AM (fDdVG)
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Exactly.
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 10:57 AM (sBOL1)
Nike
Posted by: steevy at March 08, 2017 10:57 AM (r/0kC)
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 08, 2017 10:49 AM (0mRoj)
So is this a reflection on the female race in general or the person they're reacting to?
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at March 08, 2017 10:57 AM (gIRsn)
Posted by: The Truth Is Out There at March 08, 2017 10:48 AM (39cXK)
I think you mean Mets over the Cubs in six, then Mets over the (irrelevent AL team) in seven.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 08, 2017 10:57 AM (WuRdh)
1. JackStraw is right -- we don't like it but what we're getting is what is legislatively possible.
2. Jen is right -- Obama lethally screwed health care with the ACA and it's a wonder that there's any health care industry left.
3. Whoever it was that said that the vast majority of our countrymen want (A) Preexisting conditions coverage and (B) coverage until 26 under a parental plan is also right.
The Ryan bill is a piece of bread with a smear of cheap mustard but it beats the shit sandwich we once had.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 08, 2017 10:57 AM (RD7QR)
Good luck Eli
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 10:55 AM (KlI/a)
The crazy one, or the rayciss one?
I'm guessing crazy, because otherwise Eli wouldn't need luck.
The bigger question is, how does one team keep Odi and Brandi happy? (So far, no team has been able to keep EITHER of them happy for very long).
Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: john podesta at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (nlbfN)
Posted by: Mathers at March 08, 2017 10:56 AM (mDmux)
Sorry, but if you can't cut up your own darn steak you're not very manly. Mommy never taught them how to use knives properly when eating?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (fDdVG)
Absolutely totally trolled the liberals.
http://tinyurl.com/zmwjmsa
Posted by: Sam at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (pvwwD)
I'd say it's ironic that this is being announced on International Women's Day, but it's probably a safe bet Nike did this on purpose, what with sharia-loving muslim women being so embedded (like ticks) in the US women's march activities. The west seems to be proud of itself for supporting the hijab and and burkini. Pathetic.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:55 AM (NOIQH)
Somehow the hijab has become a symbol of both islamic oppression & arrogant feminism.
Posted by: josephistan at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (7HtZB)
. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church
and it isn't my book but your own.
just saying
reciprocity
NOUN
the practice of exchanging things with others for mutual benefit, especially privileges granted by one country or organization to another.
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (R7cwD)
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 08, 2017 10:57 AM (RD7QR)
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Sometimes I hate reality.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (ELUpj)
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (1GMPq)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 08, 2017 10:41 AM (zGttg)
Heh....
Seriously, sometimes we read too much into art.
I have a feeling that this guy read the description and simply decided to paint something with lots of boobs and naked chicks.
Because he could.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (rF0hx)
Mixed signals. The transition from yellow to green is being repressed by the patriarchy.
Posted by: Pliny the Younger at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (2Mnv1)
I reject your false dichotomy and not-so-subtle personal jab.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 08, 2017 10:59 AM (0mRoj)
Uh, if you need traffic lights to affirm your feelings of equality you're doing it wrong.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:59 AM (NOIQH)
The bigger question is, how does one team keep Odi and Brandi happy? (So far, no team has been able to keep EITHER of them happy for very long).
Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (TOk1P)
exactly. That is my point.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 10:59 AM (KlI/a)
Posted by: willow at March 08, 2017 10:59 AM (R7cwD)
I'm with you. "Iron my shirt" was better.
For Hispanic women I'm told it's "Cut up my steak."
Shhhhh. The adults are talking.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 11:00 AM (4Ru5B)
What is the distance from Iran's border to Tel Aviv, Alex?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 11:00 AM (ty7RM)
This nation will never progress (in a true fashion) while the "poor" drive every domestic policy decision. Period. Why is it that the baseline for any domestic policy is always what's best for the poor? The poor are like a drowning person - they will pull you down with them, whether they intend to or not. Then, on top of that insanity, we are importing more and more of it everyday! We are told there's something wrong with us if we don't think importing the third world's impoverished masses for all us to go to work to support is not at the forefront of our lives.
That being said, I don't have issues with providing health services for those who are genuinely disabled and/or unable to provide for themselves. That is a totally different story. But it seems to me, in my observation, that the "poor" they always trot out and focus on is some 30-something woman who is not married with four kids who either makes $25,000 a year or doesn't work.
Guess what? I don't care. Not my problem. Perhaps she should have thought about that before she let a man ejaculate inside of her. But of course, carnal pleasures always must be provided for first and foremost, hence the millions of abortions every year, the never-ending fight over PP and birth control....plus CHIP, food stamps, welfare, the list is endless.
"Healthcare" or "insurance" or whatever the fuck it is at this point will always be a problem when the Welfare Class gets to drive and decide policy. It seems like the people who take responsibility for their own existence and pay for all this shit are always getting fucked because they aren't as noble, valiant or hardworking as the "poor."
Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 08, 2017 11:00 AM (vg8iE)
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Um, the democrats go insane over everything any republican utters, so that's not really a supporting data point.
And even if it were, they're only upset at the possibility (from their perspective) that republicans will get credit for giving everyone health care.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 11:00 AM (3Liv/)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (TOk1P)
Lots of schoolyard plays and trickery.
Eli to OBJ to Marshall.
Though without a linemen it's going to be more like
Center to Eli to Hospital Bed.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 08, 2017 11:00 AM (WuRdh)
http://tinyurl.com/zmwjmsa
Posted by: Sam at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (pvwwD)
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The "bless their hearts" was a nice touch.
Posted by: bluebell at March 08, 2017 11:01 AM (sBOL1)
CIA = Microsoft
CIA = Apple
CIA = Cisco
CIA = All major US tech companies
Posted by: Nathan R. Jessup at March 08, 2017 11:01 AM (TixTl)
What is the distance from Iran's border to Tel Aviv, Alex?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 08, 2017 11:00 AM (ty7RM)
LOL A lot more than 150 miles.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 11:02 AM (KlI/a)
Apparently, but one thing they did not have in Ancient Rome was tomatoes. (as I learned in Alberto Angela's excellent book, A Day in the Life of Ancient Rome.)
Italians without tomatoes. It boggles the mind.
My mom used to make home-made gnocchi. It was delicious but very, very filling.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at March 08, 2017 11:02 AM (ul9CR)
I'm not really arguing for anything, I'm just pointing out that some of the "facts" people keep claiming aren't true and the reconciliation process, which was used to do the last defund bill is the same thing as we are seeing now.
I try to ignore the spin on both sides and just look at the facts. I'd like to see Obamacare completely repealed and have some things like interstate competition and others and this is the only process that makes it even possible. I'm sure I won't get everything I want but I do want it to start and that is all that is happening now. It's just a start.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 11:02 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: bicentennialguy
Bicentennialguy for President 2020
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 11:02 AM (4Ru5B)
Thus confirming (yet again) that feminism is about destroying western civilization. These stupid bints don't get what comes next when you partner with islam.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 11:02 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: JAS at March 08, 2017 10:57 AM (4sHXv)
were they ricotta gnocchi?
It's doubtful that Roman cuisine resembles anything that contemporary Italians' dining choices.
Posted by: kallisto at March 08, 2017 11:02 AM (nNdYv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (fDdVG)
I'm told they make their women do that at restaurants. Never seen it myself. I do notice one endearing thing Hispanic men do with their women in public often. They pretend they are going to push them into traffic when walking on the sidewalk. They push them over the curb and drag them back.
Not kidding.
Posted by: Mathers at March 08, 2017 11:02 AM (mDmux)
http://tinyurl.com/jrwu5ff
Posted by: geoffb5 at March 08, 2017 11:03 AM (d3wbb)
Posted by: kallisto at March 08, 2017 11:03 AM (nNdYv)
Roast Flamingo and Stuffed Sow's Teats, anyone?
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at March 08, 2017 11:03 AM (ul9CR)
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They wait until she is "emotionally ready for change" and listen to "her side of things" before gently and carefully going from one color to another.
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at March 08, 2017 11:03 AM (lKcIL)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (fDdVG)
Real men pick up the whole piece of meat and tear off pieces with their teeth.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 08, 2017 11:04 AM (0mRoj)
Totes awesome.
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (1GMPq)
There's a Morse code keyboard, for iOS at least. Replaces the whole keyboard area with a code keyer button. Sounds dorky, but you don't have to look at the letters to send a text, which keeps your hands warm since you can just keep your phone in your coat pocket when you're walking around in the winter.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 08, 2017 11:04 AM (8nWyX)
Posted by: bicentennialguy at March 08, 2017 11:04 AM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 11:04 AM (KlI/a)
Posted by: Rick in SK at March 08, 2017 11:04 AM (FZYNt)
http://tinyurl.com/jrwu5ff
Posted by: geoffb5 at March 08, 2017 11:03 AM (d3wbb)
It's long past time for the CIA to be broken into parts.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 08, 2017 11:04 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 11:05 AM (fDdVG)
I'd say it's ironic that this is being announced on International Women's Day, but it's probably a safe bet Nike did this on purpose, what with sharia-loving muslim women being so embedded (like ticks) in the US women's march activities. The west seems to be proud of itself for supporting the hijab and and burkini. Pathetic.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 08, 2017 10:55 AM (NOIQH)
Should be hot seller, since there are so many muslim female athletes??????????
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On the other hand, adding machetes to football will make the game more exciting.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Now worse than Hitler! at March 08, 2017 11:05 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
It's about control.
"You do what I say." "Cut my steak".
Posted by: rickb223 at March 08, 2017 11:05 AM (4Ru5B)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 11:06 AM (fDdVG)
Posted by: Self-driving car>>Safe space>>Adult coloring book at March 08, 2017 11:06 AM (qYCgM)
Posted by: JAS at March 08, 2017 11:07 AM (4sHXv)
LOL. Well done.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 11:05 AM (fDdVG)
I prefer medium rare.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 08, 2017 11:07 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: JAS at March 08, 2017 11:07 AM (4sHXv)
So did chili peppers. While you're imagining Italian cuisine without tomatoes, try to picture centuries of Thai cuisine with no chilis.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 08, 2017 11:08 AM (8nWyX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 11:05 AM (fDdVG)
I prefer medium rare.
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Is this about me? Look: I know what I like. And what I like is dry steak with ketchup.
Posted by: Donald J. TRUMP at March 08, 2017 11:10 AM (OVUYQ)
That's sick.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 11:06 AM (fDdVG)
Being a little hard on the Beaver, isn't that, FS?
Posted by: john podesta at March 08, 2017 11:10 AM (nlbfN)
Posted by: steevy at March 08, 2017 11:11 AM (r/0kC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 08, 2017 11:04 AM (KlI/a)
Really, it took him less than two, as it was passed before the 2010 election.
And all he did was leave congress to their own devices.
Like Trump is doing now.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 11:11 AM (3Liv/)
And here's the crux of your constant one-man campaign to defend the sacred honor of the GOP. This semantic argument designed to mudfy the issue ... along with your chaff about "process". So let's blow it up and be done with it.
Obama vetoed a reconciliation bill to repeal most of it on 1/8/2016 ... per the CNN article I'm looking at right now. Per Paul Ryan's quote ..
"But here's the thing. The idea thatvObamacare is the law of the land is a myth. This law will collapse under it's own weight, or it will be repealed. Because all these rules and procedures Senate Democrats have used to block us from doing this ? That's all history. We have now shown that there is a clear path to repealing Obamacare without 60 votes in the Senate. So, next year, if we're sending this bill to a Republican president, it will get signed into law."
So instead of this newest clusterfuck ... all they need to do is run HR 3762 to the President ... like Ryan said then. HR 3762 is eight pages long.
Reconciation ? Process ? I don't care. Ryan talked repeal. At the time, the Party of Stupid called it repeal. That's good enough for me.
The jig's up Jack. People see the GOP for what it is.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 11:12 AM (nw6G5)
The medicaid expansion is backed in the cake.
If the new bill does the same thing as the previous bill, then just re-pass the previous bill. They won't because it is not the same.
Posted by: MAGA at March 08, 2017 11:14 AM (A4HOq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2017 10:58 AM (fDdVG)
Real men pick up the whole piece of meat and tear off pieces with their teeth.
Posted by: Insomniac
****
You mean that ISN'T how we are supposed to eat? Who knew?
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at March 08, 2017 11:14 AM (0x/TW)
This.
Ryan lied then or he's lying now, and in any case the expectation among GOP voters was that the GOP promised repeal.
Ryan's refusal to do that is a break of his promise in the eyes of the voters no matter how much propaganda he puts out. And it will have easily predictable consequences at the polls in 2018, just like the last time the GOPe held all three branches of government and sought to screw us all over.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 11:17 AM (3Liv/)
So in other words, what you have been saying is wrong and instead of trying to understand what is happening you just want to accuse me, someone who isn't even a Republican, of being a RINO or something.
It is beyond idiotic to say "Hey, let's just let the entire insurance industry to collapse and then somehow it will magically remake itself" and I don't want to do idiotic things. Neither does Trump who has been saying this exact thing for some time now. And there is no way to get a straight repeal vote through the Senate no matter how many times you scream about it.
I don't give a shit whether you like the process or not. It is the only way to get this thing started whether you understand it or not without blowing up the filibuster completely and making the Senate a smaller duplicate of the House and as a Constitutional Conservative I don't want that.
So scream all you want and blame me. I could not give less of a shit.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 11:18 AM (/tuJf)
Do you include Trump in any of this collusion?
Posted by: Jack Sock at March 08, 2017 10:43 AM (BBWB6)
Worse ... he gave the GOP an excuse. And an excuse to them - and their enablers - is better than catnip.
They never wanted to pull up Obamacare "root, stem, and branch" like McConnell famously said. They needed Obama to veto their shit. Just like they need the Senate Fillibuster since they have majorities in both Houses and control of the White House. How in the hell would they blame Democrats then ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 11:19 AM (nw6G5)
that can be forgiven (often the forgiveness is taxable as income) but not offered at discount equivalent or less than what Medicare and medicaid are billed.
Almost single handedly THIS is what created the worst cost shifting shell games in the industry, and penalized individuals without insurance to the maximum degree possible.
If there were a single health care law change, I would suggest making a law saying that anyone accepting medicare or medicaid patients may not bill any uninsured person more than the medicaid and medicare rate, and may bill LESS. (With lower rates before or after the bill is sent NEVER being treated as taxable income.)
Talk about bending the cost curve down.
Posted by: SarahW at March 08, 2017 11:19 AM (Sp1NT)
But scream all you want. I don't give a shit.
But you told on yourself Jack. Republicans really, really need that fillibuster now, don't they. And they CAN'T put HR 3762 back on the floor ... because it'll pass the House.
And that would put the Senate on the spot. No no ... can't have that.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 11:25 AM (nw6G5)
It's not a matter of putting the Senate on the spot, it's math. They need 60 votes to do a straight repeal There are 52 Republican Senators.
You tell me where those other 8 votes come from assuming you get every single Republican.
Or did you just want to scream?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 11:28 AM (/tuJf)
With the loss of Murkowski and Capito (she can be leaned on, I think) Pence could do a tie breaker.
Paul and Lee would vote for it, Collins did vote for it last time.
Posted by: MAGA at March 08, 2017 11:28 AM (A4HOq)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 11:18 AM (/tuJf)
I don't think people are blaming you.
They seem to be awfully down on Ryan. For which I blame Ryan.
Unlike most people, I am not hard over on Obamacare I think there is not an easy answer.
But the failure theater game has reaped its reward. I know Ryan never expected to catch the car, but running on "we repealed Obamacare eleventyteen times we just need a Republican President" is now exposed as, well, the bunch of horsehockey it was.
Posted by: blaster at March 08, 2017 11:29 AM (tewYv)
Posted by: MAGA at March 08, 2017 11:30 AM (A4HOq)
Posted by: LizLem at March 08, 2017 11:30 AM (hvf9s)
insurance industry to collapse and then somehow it will magically remake
itself"
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There's nothing idiotic about it, and it may in fact be the best available outcome.
If the insurance industry disappears, the robber barons of the medical industry will have no way of hiding their pricing scam and the prices ofr health care will drop to what customers can pay out of pocket (and uneconomic 'care' will disappear as well) resulting in greater efficiency. At that point it won't matter whether the insurance industry, who let's remember doesn't actually produce anything of value, revives itself.
It will suck if your nest is getting padded by the graft (either as part of the industry, or poor choices in your stock portfolio) or if you need some of that uneconomic care, but for most everyone it would be a tremendous improvement
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 11:30 AM (3Liv/)
Paul Ryan said you're wrong.
Or do you just want to scream ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 11:31 AM (nw6G5)
Posted by: simplemind at March 08, 2017 11:33 AM (xVRrG)
But it's really not. Again, it's semantics. They are gutting the mechanisms that pay for Obamacare with this reconciliation bill, making it implode faster. Call it repeal or killing the law or whatever, it is going away.
If the Republicans had 60 votes in the Senate they could do a straight repeal assuming they all voted for it. But they don't. They have 52. And there is not a chance in hell that 1 let alone 8 Democrats would vote to repeal it.
So this is the route, the only route, reconciliation. And again, it is the exact same route they used last year when everyone was calling it repeal.
I don't care what word is used as long as it is dead.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 11:33 AM (/tuJf)
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You don't need them unless you are relying on the filibuster to give you an excuse not to act.
And if you don't get every other republican, it's time to kick them out of the party.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 11:34 AM (3Liv/)
No he didn't and I'll once again ask you to show me one area where I'm wrong other than just typing it over and over.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 11:35 AM (/tuJf)
Again , pass the 2016 bill! Ryan said they could do it.
Posted by: MAGA at March 08, 2017 11:36 AM (A4HOq)
Republicans REALLY need to keep that fillibuster in place, don't they. Nothing like a ready made excuse for why you need even more money to support more Senate campaigns.
God help 'em if they ever get to sixty. I assume they'd raise the limit to seventy-five.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 11:36 AM (nw6G5)
Oh, then so magic. Ok then.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 11:36 AM (/tuJf)
Because they are using reconciliation which limits what can be done in the original bill.
Look, if you're going to insist on not educating yourself on the process then fine. But I'm not going to keep saying the same thing over and over.
You don't seem to care that Obamacare is being killed, you're just angry about the process. Not my problem, I didn't design Congressional rules.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 11:39 AM (/tuJf)
"... with a Republican president, we have now shown there is a clear path to repealing Obamacare without sixty votes in the United States Senate" - Paul Ryan, 1/7/16
His words. Not mine.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 11:41 AM (nw6G5)
This will, in fact, build trust with the conservatives for future changes in the "replace" portion.
I realize the Repubs are spineless. But I suggest, unless they do what I'm saying they will lose the House in 2018.
Posted by: MAGA at March 08, 2017 11:42 AM (A4HOq)
And that is exactly what is happening. You are arguing about semantics. I really don't care about semantics in politics, I care about results.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 11:45 AM (/tuJf)
And Jack ... if you insist on "educating" everyone on how the Repubs need sixty senate votes to repeal Obamacare ...
... I'm going to keep posting that Ryan quote over and over again.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 11:45 AM (nw6G5)
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Or the old 'nuclear' option that senate democrats used with impunity that McConnell is keeping around
because, why, exactly?
Seriously, maybe you should educate yourself about senate procedures.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 11:48 AM (3Liv/)
You mean where he says they can repeal Obamacare without 60 votes? No shit. What the hell do you think I have been saying for the last hour.
It's called reconciliation and it doesn't require 60 votes. It's the only way. What part of this is hard for you to understand?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 11:49 AM (/tuJf)
1) makes the Medicaid expansion permanent
2) institutes an entitlement to a tax credit
3) and reformats the individual mandate to an insurance surcharge
None of those were in the 2016 bill
Posted by: MAGA at March 08, 2017 11:50 AM (A4HOq)
Posted by: MAGA at March 08, 2017 11:51 AM (A4HOq)
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Because the GOP commies care a great deal more about the 'replace' part they want to do, than the 'repeal' part they promised us they would do.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 11:52 AM (3Liv/)
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You don't.
The senate majority leader makes a rules objection to the chair.
The chair (who is GOP) ways, 'hey, you're right.'
The Dems object.
A vote is held to determine who's right, and the majority wins.
Then you pass the repeal on 50 votes plus Pence.
Unless of course they don't really want repeal.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 11:54 AM (3Liv/)
The senate majority leader makes a rules objection to the chair.
The chair (who is GOP) ways, 'hey, you're right.'
The Dems object.
A vote is held to determine who's right, and the majority wins.
Then you pass the repeal on 50 votes plus Pence.
>>Unless of course they don't really want repeal.
Simply not true.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 11:58 AM (/tuJf)
Are all gun control laws unconstitutional? How many different Democrats have made intemperate remarks about the second amendment not protecting an individual right? Clearly every law they passed was motivated by anti-Constitutional animus.
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at March 08, 2017 11:59 AM (BHpB+)
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 12:01 PM (nw6G5)
>>I bet not.
Please take 5 minutes to read a neutral 3rd party that actually understands the process and then make that claim.
http://tinyurl.com/h6opgtq
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 12:03 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 12:05 PM (3Liv/)
Read the link I just posted at comment 540. Some of the assumptions you guys are making are just wrong and you are getting furious over things that can not happen.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 12:07 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: steevy at March 08, 2017 11:11 AM (r/0kC)
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Potatoes, tomatoes, bell peppers, chili peppers, (and what we call corn, as well as other things like squash and peanuts) are native to the Americas.
The Romans had no tomatoes or potatoes.
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at March 08, 2017 12:08 PM (adsVM)
Why ? I already listened to the smartest guy in the room.
Paul Ryan. Sorry Jack ... I can only cite his quote for you. I can't understand it for you.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 08, 2017 12:08 PM (nw6G5)
Whatever. Do you know what else Ryan said last year when they passed, through reconciliation with less than 60 votes in the Senate, a bill to defund Obamacare the Obama vetoed? He said this:
>>We have now shown that there is a clear path to repealing Obamacare without 60 votes in the Senate
http://tinyurl.com/hyv5b2c
So snark all you want. It's happening despite what you think.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 12:12 PM (/tuJf)
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He clearly doesn't understand.
The 60 vote thing isn't a Constitutional requirement. It is a mere Senate rule. And the majority can change the rules of the Senate any time the choose to, as they have regarding judicial nominations.
Maybe they have to make the change for every type of business they deal with, but the process for changing the rules is the same.
And given the dem's willingness to ignore the filibuster when it suited them, there is no reason to keep it regarding any business, unless senate repukes want an excuse for their failure (which is far and away the most likely explanation, as it has been their driving motivation for six years now).
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 12:13 PM (3Liv/)
Second part is through executive order. A lot of stuff was just made up out of whole cloth by Sebilius, and with Tom Price as head of HHS it can all be undone.
Third part is trickier. It will require actual legislation and will either need to be negotiated with the Dems, or wait until after 2018 and see if we have a supermajority.
Yes, I too wish we could wave a magic wand and go back to 2009, but we need to deal with the facts on the ground. I also wish I trusted the feckless GOPe...
Posted by: WaitingForMartel at March 08, 2017 12:15 PM (BYSrJ)
And they aren't going to because they don't need to. They have a process without blowing up the Senate rules which would be a horrible thing to do. If you think not, ask the Democrats how much they like Reid's going nuclear on federal judges now that Trump has the ability to seat over a hundred of them using the same 51 vote majority rule.
The Senate was designed from day 1 to give the minority some power. As a conservative, I want it to stay that way because sure as shit the liberal will be back in power some day.
Why do you care so much about process instead of the end result?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 12:17 PM (/tuJf)
There are 11 supermajority requirements in the Constitution and the 60-vote filibuster is not one of them.
The filibuster is an un-Constitutional supermajority requirement instituted by Senate rule, not by a legitimate amendment. Yes, the Constitution gives the Senate the right to set it's own rules, but it doesn't give them the right to amend the Constitution by those rules.
It is already impinging on the American Health Care Act. To avoid the filibuster, these provisions must be passed separately at a later date:
buying across state lines, removing insurance regs, reducing drug costs and legal reforms to cut cost
...and that's if these provisions aren't successfully filibustered then.
The filibuster didn't stop Obama's One-Man Treaty with his Ayatollah. In fact, it was the filibuster that prevented his Unconditional Pre-Emptive Surrender from being stopped.
Obamacare was passed with 51 votes. But we can't replace it with 51 votes?
And if Democrats can't get the votes for their extremist positions, they simply write crooked executive orders or have their judges legislate them from the bench.
The filibuster is tradition and it does offer some protections to the minority party. But that is far outweighed by the damage to the principle of majority rule and the opportunity for obstruction. It also thwarts accountability for senators by muddling the whole question.
Let your yeas be yeas and your nays be nays, and live with it.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 08, 2017 12:18 PM (Ndje9)
No it wasn't. Damn, how can people complain so much without knowing the basic facts of how we got here?
It was passed on December 24th in the middle of the night with 60, count 'em, 60 votes. Only later did they use reconciliation, the same damn process the Republicans are using now to undo the financial underpinnings of Obamacare, to put those financial underpinnings in place.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 12:23 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 08, 2017 12:27 PM (Ndje9)
No worries. Just gets tiring to keep offering facts to people and having them ignore them and tell me I am some sort of sellout.
When they took the vote last year they made a big deal of the fact that they would use the same process, reconciliation, to repeal and replace Obamacare. Now that they are people seem shocked. Trump ran on repeal and replace. This was always the plan.
Just gets old to offer facts and evidence and be accused of lying.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 12:30 PM (/tuJf)
without blowing up the Senate rules which would be a horrible thing to
do. If you think not, ask the Democrats how much they like Reid's going
nuclear on federal judges now that Trump has the ability to seat over a
hundred of them using the same 51 vote majority rule.
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There's nothing horrible about it. There is no value in giving the minority in the senate some power IF IT ONLY IS EVER GUARANTEED TO THE DEMOCRATS.
The rest of your statement is dishonest and you know it. There is not a single voter anywhere in the country who flipped in a senate race based on Reid nuking the filibuster. Democrat's losses under obama were because their policies were bad either in effect, or alien to American moral norms.
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Why do you care so much about process instead of the end result?
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Because the GOP, like their Democrat brothers, are totally untrustworthy, and unless they give us all of what we want up front, we have to assume that they will take what they want, and then give us excuses for why their part of the bargain never happens.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 12:33 PM (3Liv/)
Well since you're going to accuse my of lying and saying something I didn't, let me return the favor. You have no fucking idea what people voted on. Many polls showed that one of the top issue for people was in fact SC judges and they do not like the direction that Obama's judges have taken us.
>>Because the GOP, like their Democrat brothers, are totally untrustworthy, and unless they give us all of what we want up front, we have to assume that they will take what they want, and then give us excuses for why their part of the bargain never happens
Or you could just turn on CSPAN and watch it happen right in front of you.
In any case, I'm done with this. I find it much more interesting to watch the process than argue with someone who doesn't understand the process and won't take a couple minutes to read what a neutral 3rd party has written to try and understand it.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 08, 2017 12:39 PM (/tuJf)
didn't, let me return the favor. You have no fucking idea what people
voted on. Many polls showed that one of the top issue for people was in
fact SC judges and they do not like the direction that Obama's judges
have taken us.
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You implied the dem's senate losses were in fact a result of Reid's nuking of the filibuster, or more laughably that they blame their losses on it. I've seen no reason to believe either is true.
The hypothetical polls your citing (which I don't doubt exist, but we're not referencing one) would almost certainly show that judge concern is primarily among people who wouldn't vote for dem senators anyway, and is only part of a larger universe of alien values that progressives have sought to impose on us.
In any case, that is not a legitimate excuse for keeping the filibuster in place.
Your argument has now boiled down to 'they're not repealing obamacare because they don't really want to' which was the point I was trying to make all along.
If they did, they wouldn't be dicking around with this silly defund approach. That made sense when the strategy was to use Congress' power of the purse to force an enemy president to give up something he wanted, but it failed because the cowards in congress wouldn't stick with the shutdown and see it through.
Now that there's an American in the White House, there's no reason at all to be taking the power of the purse approach. Just pass the repeal, changing the senate rules if necessary (because let's remember, it's not just about getting rid of it, but walking on the democrats to let them know they *can* be punished) and let Trump sign it into oblivion.
Then and only then can we have a discussion about what sorts of things we want to do to improve competition and efficiency in the health care industry. And the insurance companies can remodel themselves around that. Or not. They aren't the primary concern.
Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at March 08, 2017 12:52 PM (3Liv/)
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