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Here at AoSHQ, a few heartening signs of swamp-draining have been noted lately.

The "swamp" in question of course is Washington DC, but also includes much of the bureaucracy, judiciary, and cultural command posts of the country, such as the media and entertainment industries. The tributaries comprise America's educational system, long dominated by the radical left and protected by tenure and union power. It is this ideological effluent center that has done so much to poison the discourse of American politics, smearing every institution that contributed to the country's greatness, and radiating hatred of all things most citizens hold dear . . .

Most of us can't do much right now about the swamp in D.C. But maybe some of us can do something to help drain the real swamp: Academia.

Via Insty, a Knoxville News Sentinel piece with advice for a new university chancellor. Including:

- Embrace the Tennessee Student Free Expression Act. State Rep. Martin Daniel, R-Knoxville, has introduced HB739, which quotes the Tennessee constitution: "The free communication of thoughts and opinions, is one of the invaluable rights of man, and every citizen may freely speak, write, and print on any subject."
Daniel's bill states the obvious: "In recent years, state institutions of higher education have abdicated their responsibility to uphold free speech principles."
- Commit to hiring conservatives. . .

How do you think the Chancellor feels about the advice in the piece above? That is more important that what she thinks, of course.

Got any ideas that might cause an educational official to look for a space which is safe from the ideas of other people? Have you gotten involved yourself in a bit of academic swamp-draining? Here's one area where it is possible to act locally. This may not always be easy. We might also think about some ways to support those who engage the monster.

Anybody remember Blue Sky Sessions? Ours is now open. Throw out an idea, if you've got one. We can work out the practicalities later.

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Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 11:11 AM (kTF2Z)

2 I'll collect the corgis.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 11:12 AM (kTF2Z)

3 3

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 11:12 AM (W8bn5)

4 Now to read the content.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 11:12 AM (kTF2Z)

5 by the last picture, we should be be applying litches?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 18, 2017 11:13 AM (XMCn6)

6 Ideas on academia? Fire for effect.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2017 11:14 AM (ywNoU)

7 Swamp Thing was the good guy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2017 11:14 AM (IqV8l)

8 Why is a plant monster ( ok a nice plant monster) on the thread heading?

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 11:15 AM (HDU3V)

9 7 Swamp Thing was the good guy.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2017 11:14 AM (IqV8l)

Adrienne Barbeau's chesticles were the real hero of the story.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2017 11:16 AM (ywNoU)

10 I know he's still gearing up but of all the things he campaigned on, draining the swamp of DC seems to be Trump's lowest priority so far. I fear he's going to spend more time making life better for businesses and less if any on actually fixing things.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 11:16 AM (39g3+)

11 If you want to take on the rot that is academia, how about appealing to businesses and other entrepreneurs to begin the process of training a work force without degrees.

Once upon a time a university degree had nothing to do with career choices. We now operate as if it's the only way in to many many many jobs. Most of which have nothing to do with the stuff being shoved down students' throats.

Figure out a way to separate qualified candidates from the necessity of having followed the well-worn university (and in many cases, post-graduate) path, and you'll now be able to compete with the rotten education system, in the REAL marketplace.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 11:16 AM (Pz4pT)

12 8 Why is a plant monster ( ok a nice plant monster) on the thread heading?
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 11:15 AM (HDU3V)

Because its the thread before gardening, which involves plants? There's a literal connection, dude.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2017 11:16 AM (ywNoU)

13 Good news out of Tennessee, but I can hear the special snowflakes howling now.

HATE SPEECH IS NOT PROTECTED SPEECH !!!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 11:18 AM (kTF2Z)

14 The swamp as cartel.

http://tinyurl.com/glfjwc4

Posted by: geoffb5 at February 18, 2017 11:18 AM (d3wbb)

15 I read the content and did a Duh Fuque. WTF?

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 18, 2017 11:19 AM (vV/gB)

16 >>>Got any ideas that might cause an educational official to look for a space which is safe from the ideas of other people?

Can't alums keep them in line by withholding donations and communicating the reasons?

Didn't Oxford alums prevent the removal of the Cecil Rhodes statue that way?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 11:19 AM (W8bn5)

17 If college alums were not screaming retards, they would be withholding donations and funding from these craze-hatcheries, but they don't seem to give a crap.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 11:20 AM (39g3+)

18 Had to run out for 3rd time today, caught a little of a local(?) radio show. Appears Leftists are using lawfare against President Trump for receiving gifts from foreign powers, but not personally. They are trying to equate corporations to person and are streaching supposed shell corporation to actual producing corporations.

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 11:21 AM (HDU3V)

19 baseboard buddy is apparently real

Posted by: Had a hot au pair at February 18, 2017 11:22 AM (M3DRt)

20 There's a literal connection, dude.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2017 11:16 AM

Oh, KT does the Thread before the thread And the Garden Thread. I get it now.

self promoting don't you think?

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 11:23 AM (HDU3V)

21 >>>Into the Swamp

Not at this hour. Hillary is still passed out.

Posted by: Huma Abedin's tongue at February 18, 2017 11:23 AM (W8bn5)

22 1. Feds: Quit subsidizing student loans
2. Banks: Approve or reject student loan applications based on the proposed major and the applicant's academic record.
3. Businesses: Hire people for office and IT jobs right out of high school. FIND A WAY.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 18, 2017 11:24 AM (PXbkt)

23 Swamp Thing was the good guy.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2017 11:14 AM (IqV8l)

Heather Locklear was HOTTER

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 18, 2017 11:24 AM (y3aQB)

24 The goverment swamp is quite a bit bigger than I imagined.

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 11:24 AM (HDU3V)

25
Swamp Thing
You make my heart sing

Posted by: The Troggs at February 18, 2017 11:24 AM (wpC7C)

26 I came to a conclusion last night:

Socialism in all its branches pushes defense of rights to secure title to property;
Classic Liberalism pushes the defense of property to secure rights.

After all, what makes a young, liberal hipster into a conservative? Getting a job and paying massive taxes to see people who work less given your stuff.

What keeps a young, liberal hipster on being a worn out greasy grasping liberal? Believing that there are rights to taking the property of other people, and believing real hard and breaking the will of your opponents will make them fork it over.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 18, 2017 11:24 AM (XMCn6)

27 If college alums were not screaming retards, they would be withholding donations and funding from these craze-hatcheries, but they don't seem to give a crap.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 11:20 AM (39g3+)

Yeah. But if the football team loses a couple of games to Rival U, there is hell to pay.

Posted by: Golfman at February 18, 2017 11:24 AM (k0S3A)

28 20 There's a literal connection, dude.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2017 11:16 AM

Oh, KT does the Thread before the thread And the Garden Thread. I get it now.

self promoting don't you think?
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 11:23 AM (HDU3V)

Nothing wrong with that! Also, that last sentence should be read in Walter Sobchak's voice.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2017 11:24 AM (ywNoU)

29 10 I know he's still gearing up but of all the things he campaigned on, draining the swamp of DC seems to be Trump's lowest priority so far. I fear he's going to spend more time making life better for businesses and less if any on actually fixing things.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 11:16 AM (39g3+)

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I understand what your saying, but he's only been there for a month and still doesn't have all f his cabinet in place. If, in six months, Sessions, Tillerson, Pruitt, et al haven't done some serious draining, I will start to worry.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 11:25 AM (kTF2Z)

30 @BurtTC

Companies used to hire non- college people by using hiring testing. Which is now SCOTUS deemed racist, and why degrees are the only way companies can get any assurance of competency.

Allow companies to test again, and watch the value of those catskins get put in their rightful place.

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 18, 2017 11:25 AM (dSa5I)

31 Juan is a useful idiot

Posted by: Had a hot au pair at February 18, 2017 11:26 AM (M3DRt)

32 Juan is a useful idiot
Posted by: Had a hot au pair at February 18, 2017 11:26 AM (M3DRt)

This, we knew.

Posted by: Golfman at February 18, 2017 11:26 AM (k0S3A)

33 22
1. Feds: Quit subsidizing student loans
2. Banks: Approve or reject student loan applications based on the proposed major and the applicant's academic record.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 18, 2017 11:24 AM (PXbkt)

You are correct - this is how to drain the academic swamp. The federal subsidies are what is feeding this disease

Posted by: Batterup at February 18, 2017 11:26 AM (mtGE/)

34 If/when the Dems slithers into power again, they will be even more insane than 2008. This time they will be full of rage and seeking revenge for their 2016 loss and anything Trump manages to do good. Their main policy goal will be to punish America in general and conservatives in particular and I doubt they will even bother to try and hide it. The federal bureaucracy must be defanged before Dems get hold of it again.

Posted by: Ripley at February 18, 2017 11:27 AM (1BQGO)

35 Make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy court. Student loan criteria would tighten up real quick.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 11:28 AM (kTF2Z)

36 He is flailing

Posted by: Had a hot au pair at February 18, 2017 11:29 AM (M3DRt)

37 Appoint Mike Rowe as Trades Jobs Czar.

No one hired at my office for the last seven years has not been college graduate. But these are clerical-type jobs. There's no career path here. They dump and run after a year. We need people who can type fast and use Excel and don't have $100k in student loans to worry about.

What ever happened to secretarial schools?

Posted by: Gem at February 18, 2017 11:29 AM (uaHyk)

38 Make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy court. Student loan criteria would tighten up real quick.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 11:28 AM (kTF2Z)

Are there any other loans that are not dischargable? None come to mind. Telling.

Posted by: Golfman at February 18, 2017 11:30 AM (k0S3A)

39 If, in six months, Sessions, Tillerson, Pruitt, et al haven't done some serious draining, I will start to worry.

I've already read two articles this morning in which draining, and the necessary preceding steps are occurring.
1) Tillerson is accepting lots of resignations from the politicals at State. The Tillerson folks describe it as routine, but I suspect it's far more than that.
2) The worker bee union at EPA is threatening to go beyond contacts to Congressmen, to outright obstruction. They wouldn't be doing this if they weren't afraid. It will not end well for the participants.

Posted by: pep at February 18, 2017 11:31 AM (LAe3v)

40 If, in six months, Sessions, Tillerson, Pruitt, et al haven't done some serious draining, I will start to worry.

I know, its early. And the man has astounded me with his following through on promises, its so unexpected and unprecedented, I'm still trying to get used to the idea. Its just such a huge priority.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 11:31 AM (39g3+)

41 Hate speech is to free speech as nonsense is to sense.

Posted by: Western Slope Mope at February 18, 2017 11:31 AM (WrMht)

42 Since this is an open thread. Wtf is this? Surfing Craigslist. Seems to be a card set.

Selling MTG Modern Bushwhacker Zoo Deck Near Mint/Lightly Played - $300

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 18, 2017 11:32 AM (BB1en)

43 Also, to ameliorate the risk, the interest rate should be based on your proposed degree.

Posted by: Batterup at February 18, 2017 11:32 AM (mtGE/)

44 As you saw in the last thread, today's SpaceX launch was scrubbed due to a problem in the control system for the second stage engine. They're currently targeting a launch at 9:38 am EST on Sunday.

In the meantime, here is yesterday's press conference at the launch site, which is well worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulzHxIt--00

I love Gwynne Shotwell. She's the closest thing we have to a real-life Dagny Taggart.

Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2017 11:32 AM (sdi6R)

45 Aren't there already reports of a serious bloodletting at State? I wouldn't worry too much about the swamp, and it's drainage status just yet.

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 18, 2017 11:32 AM (dSa5I)

46 Cap overheads on Federal research grants. Universities use overheads as a cookie jar to fund a lot of their operations (i.e., crap), and continually jack up the overhead rate. In some cases (I've been told) it has been raised to 90%, so a $1 million research grant gives the researcher $100,000 to do the actual research, with $900,000 going to fund diversity coordinators and a bazillion other administrators.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 11:32 AM (SRKgf)

47 @BurtTC

Companies used to hire non- college people by using hiring testing. Which is now SCOTUS deemed racist, and why degrees are the only way companies can get any assurance of competency.

Allow companies to test again, and watch the value of those catskins get put in their rightful place.
Posted by: Chupacabra at February 18, 2017 11:25 AM (dSa5I)

I keep saying, and I know it does ruffle some feathers around these parts, but the biggest problem with our legal system is that it's full of lawyers.

Another necessary step: Put common sense back in our laws.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 11:33 AM (Pz4pT)

48 I think we can push back where it comes to students being punished for recording the political rants of their instructors.

I have always wondered how a student can pay for a class and also invest his or her own valuable time to learn something and then find that the instructor is failing to follow the curriculum. Most of these cases don't seem to mention what the course subject matter is, and without knowing that, I wouldn't know for sure that these political rants are off topic. But I imagine that in many cases they are.

If I am spending my time and money to be taught something that has no relationship with politics, I would be within my rights to expect nothing else. An instructor should be the one who is sanctioned if the instructor cannot deliver.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 18, 2017 11:33 AM (9xIiZ)

49 What ever happened to secretarial schools?

Yeah, tech jobs are like that, too. The vast majority of people do have a traditional four-year degree, often in an unrelated subject. But there's no reason at all to treat that as a qualification. Just give 'em a short practical test.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 18, 2017 11:34 AM (PXbkt)

50 Are there any other loans that are not dischargable? None come to mind. Telling.

---------------

While not technically a loan, IRS debt isn't dischargeable in bankruptcy. Since most student loans are now handled by the Feds, well, the Fedzilla will be paid, regardless of one's ability to pay. Reminds me of Goodfellas. Fuck you, pay me.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 11:34 AM (kTF2Z)

51 Bushwhacker wwf act was kind of funny

Posted by: Had a hot au pair at February 18, 2017 11:34 AM (M3DRt)

52 Business will begin holding academia accountable to producing useful workers if we can get the spigot turned off for bringing in H1B visa workers to replace the US workforce.

Posted by: ghbucky at February 18, 2017 11:35 AM (D2q91)

53 If college alums were not screaming retards, they would be withholding donations and funding from these craze-hatcheries, but they don't seem to give a crap.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 11:20 AM (39g3+)

Yeah. But if the football team loses a couple of games to Rival U, there is hell to pay.
Posted by: Golfman at February 18, 2017 11:24 AM (k0S3A)

I would think, and maybe it's just me, but if people are fed up with the NFL, why are they also not fed up with the NCAA?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 11:36 AM (Pz4pT)

54 At this point, the only real trade schools are the military.

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 18, 2017 11:37 AM (dSa5I)

55 * waves hello from deep inside self-dug hole *

Sometimes I wonder how I used to have time to participate in threads. I need one of Hermione time-turner thingies. Probably still wouldn't help.

Somehow, despite all prevailing circumstances, I seem to want to smile, be happy, and hold the head high.

Good morning, Horde o'Plenty.

Posted by: mindful webworker - nose still above water (barely) at February 18, 2017 11:37 AM (cHQtB)

56 I kind of love how Juan et al laugh hysterically when faced with Trump's policies

Posted by: Had a hot au pair at February 18, 2017 11:37 AM (M3DRt)

57
I would think, and maybe it's just me, but if people are fed up with the NFL, why are they also not fed up with the NCAA?
Posted by: BurtTC

Sports are Mother. Sports are Father.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2017 11:37 AM (IqV8l)

58 Selling MTG Modern Bushwhacker Zoo Deck Near Mint/Lightly Played - $300

Magic the Gathering you build your own deck of cards you play with, under basic guidelines. Different strategy types end up with names like "Bushwhacker Zoo Deck" and this guy is selling a pre-made one. I don't know how he expects anyone to buy it, but you never can tell.

Some cards are very rare and expensive to buy singly, so it is probably cheaper than buying each card individually.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 11:37 AM (39g3+)

59 Make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy court. Student loan criteria would tighten up real quick.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 11:28 AM (kTF2Z)

Are there any other loans that are not dischargable? None come to mind. Telling.
Posted by: Golfman
_________

At one time they were dischargeable, and as soon as someone got out of medical school they declared bankruptcy and became high paid doctors.

If you took the government out of subsidizing student loans, the market would fix things very quickly. That's a better solution.

Posted by: xanax at February 18, 2017 11:38 AM (QzwGI)

60 Just to add one more "blue sky" comment: If an instructor strays from the topic of the course, then he/she/zhe/whatever is now speaking outside of the curriculum and is moving into the realm of public speaking.

Public speaking has no protection of privacy, and the school should have no right to "protect" any such right. Therefore, it is the right of anyone present to make a record of such speech.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 18, 2017 11:38 AM (9xIiZ)

61 https://tinyurl.com/haro9ck

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Dedicated to all the Precious Little Snowflakes

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Fucked Up - Insecure - Neurotic - Emotional

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 18, 2017 11:38 AM (y3aQB)

62 Second idea: charge tuition based on net cost to the university. Industry and the Federal government support STEM departments, because they're perceived as doing something worthwhile and valuable to industry and to the country. Tuition in those subjects should therefore be cheaper (despite the extra cost of running laboratories, etc.)

OTOH, those taking classes in Lesbian Basketweaving Styles in Ancient Greece should pay the full freight, viz., the fully-loaded salary of the instructor, the overheads (building construction and maintenance, power, water, janitorial services, the lot). Students will be astonished at how much that is, and will also now take a dimmer view of their leftist firebrand professor for whom they are now paying.

(Back in the 19th century, IIRC, German university students literally paid admission to attend each lecture, just like attending a movie now. I like that idea. It would weed out shitty lecturers, and also force students to consider what value they're getting for money.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 11:38 AM (SRKgf)

63 I am always pushing this, Diplomad 2.0 The coup attempt continues is a very good read.
http://www.thediplomad.com/

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 11:39 AM (HDU3V)

64 Limit student loans to five times the average annual salary that the degree would earn.

Disallow student loans for degrees that currently have more applicants than positions ( this would be damned near all Arts degrees ).

Cut off student loan money for colleges that violate free speech of students, penalize free speech with bad grades, or allow black shirts on campus to riot and do the same.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 18, 2017 11:39 AM (Vkf+s)

65 Juan is a loyal idiot

Posted by: Had a hot au pair at February 18, 2017 11:41 AM (M3DRt)

66 Allow companies to test again, and watch the value of those catskins get put in their rightful place.

Posted by: Chupacabra

Not to mention -- having people skip college and actually work for an additional four years before retiring helps;
1. Employee starts earning earlier and longer
2. Government starts collecting payroll taxes earlier and longer

Posted by: E Depluribus Juan at February 18, 2017 11:41 AM (ZFUt7)

67 Force universities to publish the five-year post-graduation employment records of their entering class. How many of the entering class graduated? In what majors? How were they employed after leaving the university, whether it be by graduating or dropping out? How much debt did they have?

I think special snowflakes would get hit upside the head with a snow shovel if they saw how those sociology majors fared in the real world.

The subliminal message: "choose wisely, grasshoppers."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 11:42 AM (SRKgf)

68 ****Update on Vic****

From Mrs Vic:

Uh oh. More delays. They want another blood test, will wait for results. Also want an infectious disease team to see him. Not sure when he'll get to go home. My permission to post.

Posted by: phoenixgirl in sedona at February 18, 2017 11:43 AM (iUvab)

69 I think colleges need to stop getting tax breaks, government grants, and be heavily audited and overseen for behavior, hiring, and how they are handling their money. No more grants for arts or sciences, no more money to build another palacial "community center" or "student union" building. Colleges should not look like the Versailles, they need to be stripped down and utilitarian.

Any college with more administration than profs needs to be cut off entirely from loans until they clean up their act.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 11:44 AM (39g3+)

70 58 Selling MTG Modern Bushwhacker Zoo Deck Near Mint/Lightly Played - $300

Magic the Gathering you build your own deck of cards you play with, under basic guidelines. Different strategy types end up with names like "Bushwhacker Zoo Deck" and this guy is selling a pre-made one. I don't know how he expects anyone to buy it, but you never can tell.

Some cards are very rare and expensive to buy singly, so it is probably cheaper than buying each card individually.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 11:37 AM (39g3+)

Thanks for reply Chris. Amazes me the hobbies people have and the knowledge here.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 18, 2017 11:44 AM (BB1en)

71 Public speaking has no protection of privacy, and the school should have no right to "protect" any such right. Therefore, it is the right of anyone present to make a record of such speech.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 18, 2017 11:38 AM (9xIiZ)

How about this - record ALL lectures. When I was on the faculty at *cough* university, they recorded every lecture I gave in freshman chemistry (to put it in the library for the students' use). I thought nothing of it, although it was slightly unnerving to lecture to an audience I couldn't really see (because of the klieg lights in my eyes, rather like a TV studio).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 11:44 AM (SRKgf)

72 I was big in Swamp Thing

Posted by: Adrienne Boobeau at February 18, 2017 11:45 AM (JO9+V)

73 Adrienne Barbeau's chesticles were the real hero of the story.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2017 11:16 AM (ywNoU)

THIS!

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 18, 2017 11:46 AM (aMlLZ)

74 You can't drain the swamp! It's a "protected wetland"!

Posted by: EPA at February 18, 2017 11:46 AM (W8bn5)

75 Oh, and students will need to have the ability to record any school employee at any time, otherwise proving free speech violations would be difficult.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 18, 2017 11:46 AM (Vkf+s)

76 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 11:44 AM (39g3+)

Cut off the arts, yes, absolutely. Cut off grants to the sciences would end scientific research (real science, not social "science"), which is expensive and funded almost entirely by Federal and industrial research grants.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 11:46 AM (SRKgf)

77 Are women really attracted to Swamp Thing? Or is it an ugly guy's fantasy?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 11:47 AM (W8bn5)

78 Bewbs in before 100.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at February 18, 2017 11:47 AM (Tyii7)

79 52 Business will begin holding academia accountable to producing useful workers if we can get the spigot turned off for bringing in H1B visa workers to replace the US workforce.
Posted by: ghbucky at February 18, 2017 11:35 AM (D2q91)

There actually was a good IT trade school set up in the late 90's early 2000's.... run by Microsoft, the MCSE program.

We had schools nationwide, which taught college accredited classes so you could tie into retraining and Vet dollars.

You'd then take a series of fairly hard tests, and Industry could check on which tests you had passed.

Worked well, right up until two things... both Government actions.

They made it much harder to get the College Accreditation, so most Government Aid money stopped...

And H1Bs flooded the market...

We went from doing $1 Million a month in delivered training in the Colorado Springs, Denver, Boulder corridor.... to out of business in 4 years.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 18, 2017 11:48 AM (qf6WZ)

80 Throw out the Obama 'Dear Colleague' letter that started the kangaroo court system in colleges that assume every male is a rapist.

Stop colleges from preaching that this race/gender/outlook is the source of all evil. Foster lawsuits by students against institutions that persist in this.

Make colleges liable for student orgs they charter that openly foster violence or harassment.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 18, 2017 11:48 AM (oVJmc)

81
The Blind Sheik dead in prison, aftrr serving life sentence.

Sentence complete!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at February 18, 2017 11:48 AM (4DCSq)

82 College "common core": If x% of your graduates can't do intro calculus, pass a factual US History test or write a grammatically correct, coherent essay, you are disqualified from Federally guaranteed student loans.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 18, 2017 11:48 AM (OhTOr)

83 62 when I was in college, tuition was charged by unit.
Now they do a flat rate.
I like the per lecture idea.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 18, 2017 11:48 AM (Om16U)

84 The canoe photo is vague enough to me to seem post-impressionistic

Posted by: Had a hot au pair at February 18, 2017 11:49 AM (M3DRt)

85 Are women really attracted to Swamp Thing? Or is it an ugly guy's fantasy?

http://thedeclination.com/radfems-cenobites-and-the-lament-configuration/

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 18, 2017 11:50 AM (6FqZa)

86 The Blind Sheik dead in prison, aftrr serving life sentence.

Sentence complete!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at February 18, 2017 11:48 AM (4DCSq)

Awesome, now fire his meat suit into the sun.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 18, 2017 11:50 AM (aMlLZ)

87 Amazes me the hobbies people have and the knowledge here.

I used to be a huge MTG fan when it first came out, played for years. After a while they changed the game so much I lost interest and sold all my thousands of cards. I had literally a suitcase full of the fool things. Made a few hundred bucks.

Its still pretty popular but not nearly like it used to be. It was such a bizarrely, powerfully addictive game when it first came out, its hard to explain why it was so much fun and interesting.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 11:51 AM (39g3+)

88 College "common core": If x% of your graduates can't do intro calculus, pass a factual US History test or write a grammatically correct, coherent essay, you are disqualified from Federally guaranteed student loans.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 18, 2017 11:48 AM (OhTOr)

I can't do intro calculus. At all.

Luckily, my field is programming, where being multilingual is actually a more useful background than advanced mathematics, and not because you'll be speaking any of those languages.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 18, 2017 11:51 AM (8nWyX)

89 Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 18, 2017 11:50 AM (aMlLZ)

Satan Screamin Allahu Akbar

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 18, 2017 11:51 AM (y3aQB)

90 charge tuition based on net cost to the university. Industry and the Federal government support STEM departments, because they're perceived as doing something worthwhile and valuable to industry and to the country. Tuition in those subjects should therefore be cheaper (despite the extra cost of running laboratories, etc.)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

******

Along the same lines, in medical academia there is a lot of grant money that is tied not so much to real-world tangible results. Research funding should be tied to the real world in some measurable way. Just as healthcare subsidies should be limited to a finite (rather small) list of 'essential' (e.g. life-saving) medical services and not tampons, contraceptives and sex change surgery. Too many academic physicians earn their keep by pumping socially oriented research (as defined by a federal agency), with frank disregard for the values of the patients they should be serving. To whom are they accountable?

Follow the money.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 11:51 AM (wPiJc)

91 77 Are women really attracted to Swamp Thing? Or is it an ugly guy's fantasy?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 11:47 AM

There was that other whole monster series Beauty and the Beast with Ron Pearlman and Linda Hamilton

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 11:52 AM (HDU3V)

92 Amazing how the blind sheik tried to escape by scaling a wall and stealing a car. Good thing they picked him off at the checkpoint.

Posted by: The Deep State You Want at February 18, 2017 11:52 AM (OhTOr)

93
Selling MTG Modern Bushwhacker Zoo Deck Near Mint/Lightly Played - $300

Sounds like a mower deck for a lawn tractor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2017 11:52 AM (IqV8l)

94 85 really interesting post, isn't it?

Among religious people, there is always some who will fetshize suffering and martyrdom. But here they don't have anyone telling them, hey, that's neither healthy nor virtuous.

In a nutshell, the Left is a collection of nuts.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 18, 2017 11:53 AM (Om16U)

95 Cut off the arts, yes, absolutely.
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Interestingly - the music school I spent the most time at was actually a (very modest) profit center for the university, even though the faculty doesn't really bring in grant money... Lot of foreign students paying full freight.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 18, 2017 11:53 AM (PXbkt)

96 There was that other whole monster series Beauty and the Beast with Ron Pearlman and Linda Hamilton

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 11:52 AM (HDU3V)

Look at Linda Hamilton today, she could be the beast. Frigging shame.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 18, 2017 11:53 AM (aMlLZ)

97 "Throw out an idea, if you've got one. We can work out the practicalities later."

Kill them all and let God sort 'em out?

Posted by: West at February 18, 2017 11:54 AM (RYoHZ)

98 Companies used to hire non- college people by using hiring testing. Which is now SCOTUS deemed racist, and why degrees are the only way companies can get any assurance of competency.
Allow companies to test again, and watch the value of those catskins get put in their rightful place.
Posted by: Chupacabra at February 18, 2017 11:25 AM (dSa5I)

This.

Also, make uttering the words "disparate impact" a capital offense. Same thing with "it's for the children," usually bleated by some wizened old crone who only has cats.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 11:54 AM (SRKgf)

99 Prayers for Vic and the missus... this infectious disease thing is troubling.

Have a good day, morons! Supposed to be in the 60s... in February! in Chicago! Gotta get outside.

Posted by: Gem at February 18, 2017 11:55 AM (uaHyk)

100 The Blind Sheik dead in prison, aftrr serving life sentence. Sentence complete!

Oh no. No, it's not.

Posted by: Iblis at February 18, 2017 11:55 AM (6FqZa)

101 Thunderball 2

Posted by: Had a hot au pair at February 18, 2017 11:55 AM (M3DRt)

102 Sorta OT: I was all set to put a pork shoulder on the Traeger grill for an all day slow roast when I realized I was out of pellets. Only store open at 7:30 was WalMart. Of course, their barbecue section had only one big bag of (socialistic) cooking pellets- a "competition mix" of various woods. Diversity in a bag. So instead of using pure hickory, I am cooking with a diverse mix. Including that frankly communist anti-freedom, hate-spewing mesquite!! Not even fully vetted mesquite at that. Damn jihadi refugee mesquite I'll bet.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 11:57 AM (wPiJc)

103 https://tinyurl.com/hjbd2fa

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Facebook Meme That is HILARIOUS & scary

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 18, 2017 11:57 AM (y3aQB)

104 Interestingly - the music school I spent the most
time at was actually a (very modest) profit center for the university,
even though the faculty doesn't really bring in grant money... Lot of
foreign students paying full freight.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 18, 2017 11:53 AM (PXbkt)
Fair enough. The market decided that music school was providing value for money. That works.

STEM subjects get grants because basic science is a public good, much like interstate freeways, but no one knows exactly who it will ultimately benefit, so industry often won't support it unless it obviously bears on exactly what they do (i.e., it's at least somewhat applied).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 11:57 AM (SRKgf)

105 Adrienne Barbeau's chesticles were the real hero of the story.

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I rooted for them

Posted by: Swamp Thing at February 18, 2017 11:58 AM (PqqkK)

106 Omar abdel Rahman? That piece of shit is finally dead? Woo hoo!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 18, 2017 11:58 AM (WFENN)

107 Among religious people, there is always some who will fetishize suffering and martyrdom.

Leave Jerry Brown out of this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 11:59 AM (SRKgf)

108 Grand bargain:
End tax exemption for places of worship.

AND: Government GTF out of the pulpit.

AND:
End federally guaranteed student loans.

Revoke all Title IX bullshit telling everyone how to run their sports programs.

Let everyone pray for themselves and think for themselves without interference, and let everyone pay for it themselves. I think they actually tried this once before too. Something called "America."

Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 18, 2017 11:59 AM (OhTOr)

109 The Wall by IKEA - some assembly required.

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/selection-du-weekend-232-76.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 18, 2017 12:00 PM (spN65)

110 Swamp Thing?

"Choot 'im, Guy, choot 'im!!

/Troy Landry

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:00 PM (wPiJc)

111 Just read this , Jennifer Palmieri in a CBS interview a few days ago makes the unbelievable claim that Hillary didn't want torun in 2016 but had to save the D's from Bernie Sanders. ( Philthy-Delphia)

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 12:01 PM (HDU3V)

112 Any university that receives tax payer funding should get regularly audited in some way. Diversity means that they should hire qualified conservative professors as well as administrators. The audit should include measures to make colleges more affordable --there's too many unnecessary classes that the students are forced to take that have nothing to do with getting a degree -and that includes the stupidity involved in white privilege. Any special concessions that are giving to special groups needs to be carefully examined and an equal measure should be given to the general student population. No discrimination or segregation of any type should be permitted. Common rooms and dorms should be available to all students, and not divided by race. Any concession or petition that a student organization "demands" should be met with a state regulator, a legal adviser and even a general student vote if needed. Any university that loses control of their campus, including the general safety of students and property will immediately lose some type of accreditation and funds will be stopped until it is proven that they have the means and the will to stop that type of behavior.

Posted by: Pat at February 18, 2017 12:01 PM (hRWzP)

113 Reports of 3 mile + line in Melbourne, Florida for "I Work For YOU" Presidential Rally to start at 5pm ET.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 18, 2017 12:01 PM (Om16U)

114 video of ppl lined up

https://twitter.com/MichaelDelauzon/status/832998681045409793

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 18, 2017 12:02 PM (Om16U)

115 Throw out the Obama 'Dear Colleague' letter that started the kangaroo
court system in colleges that assume every male is a rapist.

A modest proposal: throw it out on "disparate impact" grounds.

A second modest proposal: require the kangaroo courts to ring up students in proportion to their proportion in the population. I want 51% of those crucified to be female, 13% to be black, etc. Stop that shit in a big hurry.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 12:02 PM (SRKgf)

116 Also, make uttering the words "disparate impact" a capital offense. Same thing with "it's for the children," usually bleated by some wizened old crone who only has cats.

----

can we add 'out of the mainstream"?

But I'll settle for groin kicks for that one. Because compassion

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 18, 2017 12:02 PM (PqqkK)

117 Also the joy and pride of North Myrtle Beach turned 60 today, Vana White.
God I'm getting old.

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 12:02 PM (HDU3V)

118 98 Companies used to hire non- college people by using hiring testing. Which is now SCOTUS deemed racist, and why degrees are the only way companies can get any assurance of competency.
Allow companies to test again, and watch the value of those catskins get put in their rightful place.
Posted by: Chupacabra at February 18, 2017 11:25 AM (dSa5I)

This.

Also, make uttering the words "disparate impact" a capital offense. Same thing with "it's for the children," usually bleated by some wizened old crone who only has cats.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 11:54 AM (SRKgf)

Isn't it amazing that just about every internal problem we have, there is a Court in there somewhere? Sometimes at the very CORE of the problem?

Posted by: Don Q. at February 18, 2017 12:02 PM (qf6WZ)

119 having people skip college and actually work for an additional four years before retiring

Posted by: E Depluribus Juan at February 18, 2017 11:41 AM (ZFUt7)

Are you really talking about penalizing people who don't go to college?

Posted by: dDan at February 18, 2017 12:03 PM (hwYmz)

120 The closest Giant to me has a fair number of bottles of Trump Meritage. $28.50 a bottle. (Northern Virginia)

I am going to pick up a bottle later.

Posted by: blaster at February 18, 2017 12:03 PM (HV1LS)

121 Cut off the arts, yes, absolutely. Cut off grants to the sciences would end scientific research (real science, not social "science"), which is expensive and funded almost entirely by Federal and industrial research grants.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 11:46 AM (SRKgf)

What is science? What is scientific research?

These are not flippant questions. If you know anything about the Science Industrial Complex, you know there's lots of stuff that gets called "science" that is either: 1. Not science, or 2. Of no practical value to humanity, or 3. Both.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 12:03 PM (Pz4pT)

122 Just read this , Jennifer Palmieri in a CBS interview a few days ago makes the unbelievable claim that Hillary didn't want torun in 2016 but had to save the D's from Bernie Sanders. ( Philthy-Delphia)

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She just wanted to be coronated.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 18, 2017 12:03 PM (PqqkK)

123 Diversity means that they should hire qualified conservative professors as well as administrators.

*****

Most so-called conservative professors I've seen are more along the lines of "professors of conservatism", and best suited for the anthropology department- just like academicians who study aborigines, New Guinea tribesmen, South American jungle people and other backwards civilizations. Just like David Brooks is a 'conservative' journalist.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:04 PM (wPiJc)

124 On the radio they said she has worn something like 60,000 dresses and not 1 twice.

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 12:04 PM (HDU3V)

125 Teach. At any level in any institution from free community courses to exclusive universities. Flood the educational system. Assist your fellow travelers whenever you encounter them. Work against the enemy at every opportunity. Begin the long march.

Posted by: wilbeforce at February 18, 2017 12:05 PM (9CvIS)

126 @122 - how stupid do these people think we are?

Posted by: blaster at February 18, 2017 12:05 PM (HV1LS)

127 @22 Businesses: Hire people for office and IT jobs right out of high school. FIND A WAY.
------------------------------

Quite a few starter IT jobs will settle for a High School Diploma, actually. On the other hand, there are places like my old school district that put out announcements for job openings and basically state that all that matters is the degree. They're going to ignore the resume that you submit.

(and yes, it was literally stated right in the description of the job opening)

Posted by: junior at February 18, 2017 12:06 PM (nsZ+m)

128 My biggest concern about colleges and universities is that they are left almost untouched, self regulating, with even their own police and courts. when you combine that with the vast money they have at their disposal and how poorly they spend it, you end up with utter crap as a product.

The point of an institute of higher learning is education, not palacial grounds or boutique sjw studies. They're spending billions every year on park-like settings and new, beautiful buildings, with administration bloat like you've never seen. Each year they add a new diversity vice president or provost, or chancellor, or administrator of student concerns.

Here's just the top leadership of UCLA

http://www.ucla.edu/about/leadership

And that's only the top level, and only the head of each department, not their staff which is huge as well. There are literally thousands of people working on college campuses who do no educating whatsoever. Each administrator adds more to their staff each budget meeting, knowing the money is always there.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 12:06 PM (39g3+)

129 Teach. At any level in any institution from free community courses to exclusive universities. Flood the educational system. Assist your fellow travelers whenever you encounter them. Work against the enemy at every opportunity. Begin the long march.
Posted by: wilbeforce at February 18, 2017 12:05 PM (9CvIS)

You won't be hired unless you join the tribe...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 18, 2017 12:06 PM (qf6WZ)

130 Posted by: phoenixgirl in sedona at February 18, 2017 11:43 AM (iUvab)

Mrs. Vic -- good people. Thoughts and prayers that they are both soon home together. And that they think to stockpile some brown stuff so the neighbor will not be a bother.

Posted by: gracepc at February 18, 2017 12:06 PM (OU4q6)

131 And apart from the credentials, can't you learn pretty much anything a college can teach you with just YouTube and Amazon? At least to the undergrad level?

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 18, 2017 12:07 PM (dSa5I)

132 Is there any 'evidence' that diversity makes things better? Or is this one of those "The Science is Settled" propositions

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 18, 2017 12:07 PM (PqqkK)

133 122 Just read this , Jennifer Palmieri in a CBS interview a few days ago makes the unbelievable claim that Hillary didn't want torun in 2016 but had to save the D's from Bernie Sanders. ( Philthy-Delphia)

==

A teeny problem with that theory - Hillary started fundraising for her 2016 campaign way before anyone else.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 18, 2017 12:07 PM (Om16U)

134 I like the cut of Swamp Thing that shows a lot of Adrienne Barbeau's boobs.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 18, 2017 12:07 PM (S2VsH)

135 Muldoon, I don't do pellets, but when I fire up my Weber Smoky Mountain, I use a mix do mesquite and hickory. Unless they put pine pellets in there, I think you'll be pleased. Also, when should I be there for dinner?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 12:07 PM (kTF2Z)

136 I like the cut of Swamp Thing that shows a lot of Adrienne Barbeau's boobs.

*****

Exactly how many does she have?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:08 PM (wPiJc)

137 What is science? What is scientific research?

These are not flippant questions. If you know anything about the
Science Industrial Complex, you know there's lots of stuff that gets
called "science" that is either: 1. Not science, or 2. Of no practical
value to humanity, or 3. Both.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 12:03 PM (Pz4pT)
Good point. My view is colored (?) ...Let me try that again. My view is of color by my experience in chemistry, where that's not a problem. The social sciences are another story entirely, and 99% of what they do is crap as far as I can tell. The tell here: how often are they surprised by their data? Answer: virtually never. Their data seem always to support their original hypothesis. In the no-shit sciences, we are surprised all. the. time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 12:08 PM (SRKgf)

138 Factoid of the day to make a liberal want to jump out the window...

Trump filed reelection papers on January 20, 2017.

#JumpForTrump

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 18, 2017 12:08 PM (ZFUt7)

139 I strongly suspect the Chancellor thinks of conservatives as un-people whose ideas are not meritorious enough for representation. In her head: should we have Flat Earthers represented in our teaching? Do we really want Nazis to have an equal say?

Posted by: blaster at February 18, 2017 12:08 PM (HV1LS)

140 Better Barbeau's boobs....

Swamp Thing or Escape from New York

discuss...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 18, 2017 12:09 PM (PqqkK)

141 STEM subjects get grants because basic science is a public good, much like interstate freeways, but no one knows exactly who it will ultimately benefit
--

Yeah, I agree with you. Would be completely in favor of restricting the percentage of "overhead" in federal STEM grants.

(The conversation just reminded me of how bitter the music school administration was about pooling "their" tuition monies with other departments. Real bunch of capitalists, as far as that was concerned!)

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 18, 2017 12:09 PM (PXbkt)

142 Unless they put pine pellets in there, I think you'll be pleased. Also, when should I be there for dinner?

******

Oh, I was just making a socialism joke. I like mesquite. I agree, it should turn out fine. We're shooting for six o'clock. Bring some Trump wine or a dessert.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:09 PM (wPiJc)

143 132 Is there any 'evidence' that diversity makes things better? Or is this one of those "The Science is Settled" propositions
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 18, 2017 12:07 PM (PqqkK)

Ask the people in the former Yugoslavia, or in Rwanda, what they think about "diversity." The people who survived their experience of "diversity," that is.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 12:10 PM (SRKgf)

144 Make college harder to get into and more expensive.

Stop insisting kids that can barely graduate high school should dumb down colleges.

Require the college to cosign on all student loans.

All state schools have identical (difficult) standards. UNC or NC Central, you are expected to earn your place. If they can't, rename them, remove accreditation, remove taxpayer dollars, and let them be local Phoenix University setups.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at February 18, 2017 12:10 PM (/f1mm)

145
Just read this , Jennifer Palmieri in a CBS interview a few days ago makes the unbelievable claim that Hillary didn't want torun in 2016 but had to save the D's from Bernie Sanders. ( Philthy-Delphia)
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 12:01 PM (HDU3V)

If Hillary hadn't run Joe Biden would have and beaten Bernie handily,and he may have beat Trump in the general.Hillary's sense of self entitlement cost dems dearly

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 18, 2017 12:10 PM (lKyWE)

146 @138 - proof that Trump and his people are smart. By doing so, he is a candidate, and that rules out a lot of things that cannot be said about him.

Yeah, First Amendment and all that, but libs made the rules, they gotta live with them.

Posted by: blaster at February 18, 2017 12:10 PM (HV1LS)

147
Cut off grants to the sciences would end scientific research (real science, not social "science"), which is expensive and funded almost entirely by Federal and industrial research grants.

It all comes down to whose Gore is being oxxed.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2017 12:10 PM (IqV8l)

148 We're shooting for six o'clock. Bring some Trump wine or a dessert.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:09 PM (wPiJc)
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I've got six bottles of it. Can I come?

Posted by: bluebell at February 18, 2017 12:11 PM (sBOL1)

149 (The conversation just reminded me of how bitter the
music school administration was about pooling "their" tuition monies
with other departments. Real bunch of capitalists, as far as that was
concerned!)

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 18, 2017 12:09 PM (PXbkt)
Everyone's a capitalist when it comes to his own money.
Now imagine how the STEM departments feel about supporting the humanities and social science departments, whose denizens delight in asserting that the STEM subjects are "not relevant."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 12:11 PM (SRKgf)

150 Factoid of the day to make a liberal want to jump out the window... #JumpForTrump

Spring fuer mich!
Spring ins Licht!
Spring!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 18, 2017 12:11 PM (6FqZa)

151
Better Barbeau's boobs....
Swamp Thing or Escape from New York

Maude

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2017 12:13 PM (IqV8l)

152 Are you really talking about penalizing people who don't go to college?
�Posted by: dDan

Believe it or not, some people actually enjoy working, collecting a paycheck, and using that paycheck to buy things they enjoy. For as many years as they possibly can.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 18, 2017 12:13 PM (ZFUt7)

153 Cut off grants to the sciences would end scientific research

No, it would just force these institutions to be more selective and careful about what research they do, because it would be limited to the funds they have, and private donations rather than sucking from the government teat.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 12:13 PM (39g3+)

154 @87 It was such a bizarrely, powerfully addictive game when it first came out, its hard to explain why it was so much fun and interesting.
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MTG is still quite popular. My Friendly Local Game Store makes a lot of sales whenever a new set comes out, and has weekly tournaments. The various local collectible card stores all pretty much depend on MTG sales to stay in business.

My FLGS doesn't need the sales, though, as they sell more than enough other stuff. And the owner has expressed to me on more than one occasion that he sort of wishes he could just cut it off.

Posted by: junior at February 18, 2017 12:14 PM (nsZ+m)

155 Everyone's a capitalist when it comes to his own money.

*****

Remember the OWS guy who wanted to eradicate private property but screamed when someone suggested that he give away his iPad? He made a distinction between "private property" (everybody else's stuff) and "personal property" (his stuff).

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:15 PM (wPiJc)

156 Also heard on radio news rocket launch is going to try again tomorrow, not sure off time.

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 12:15 PM (HDU3V)

157 Is there any 'evidence' that diversity makes things better? Or is this one of those "The Science is Settled" propositions
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 18, 2017 12:07 PM (PqqkK)

If by "the science is settled" you mean adjudicated by the courts, then yes, the science is settled.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 12:15 PM (Pz4pT)

158 should we have Flat Earthers represented in our teaching?

Indubitably.

Posted by: Kyrie Irving at February 18, 2017 12:16 PM (Tyii7)

159 Better Barbeau's boobs....

Swamp Thing or Escape from New York

discuss...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 18, 2017 12:09 PM (PqqkK)

well since I really have nothing to add to the thread. I'm going with swamp thing, for obvious reasons.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at February 18, 2017 12:16 PM (aMlLZ)

160 Maude
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

*****

I'm surprised no Moron has yet used the nickname "Bea Arthur's Boobs"

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:17 PM (wPiJc)

161 I have boys in 10th grade, got a mailing beginning of this year that an electrical company was hiring HS grads no experience required, they would train you, 1st year income guaranteed, $30k, 2d year guaranteed $60k. Presuming it levels off there, that means 4 years after graduation is +$210k v dumping that much down some college rathole.

Working on convincing them this is a smart move - maybe at least do it for 2-3 years before going to college, since I can't convince them to go in the Marines....

Posted by: blaster at February 18, 2017 12:17 PM (HV1LS)

162 129 Teach. At any level in any institution from free community courses to exclusive universities. Flood the educational system. Assist your fellow travelers whenever you encounter them. Work against the enemy at every opportunity. Begin the long march.
Posted by: wilbeforce at February 18, 2017 12:05 PM (9CvIS)
You won't be hired unless you join the tribe...
Posted by: Don Q. at February 18, 2017 12:06 PM (qf6WZ)

I previously related my recent experience with a local juco, where a friend (another Berkeley chemistry Ph.D.) was urging me to teach on the side.

I read the job opening blurb, and threw it away. Among other things it required applicants to write an essay on how they'd supported LGBTQIA (whatever that is) students in their quest for ... whatever it is they're questing for.

Now how this bears on chemistry, I do not know. But it was clear I'd be about as welcome there as a turd in a punchbowl.

Fun fact: I'd have been the only person in the chem department who has a Ph.D., or who has taught at the university level. Most of them have bachelor's degrees, and a few have master's. That's it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 12:17 PM (SRKgf)

163 Time to go spritz the Boston Butt. Back in a jiffy.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:18 PM (wPiJc)

164 Having backup knowledge of a trade is never a bad idea, Blaster.

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 18, 2017 12:18 PM (dSa5I)

165 Insist on Diversity of thought- not Diversity of skin tone.

Posted by: LASue, so very deplorable at February 18, 2017 12:19 PM (CLKfs)

166 The easiest way I can think of to drain the swamp would be to get Congress to repeal the law, and the President to repeal the executive orders, that granted Federal workers the ability to Unionize.

The rationale behind doing so, besides clearing out a lot of overpaid deadweight who are immune to being fired, is quite simple. One of the interested parties, the taxpayer, is unrepresented in all of their contract negotiations. Nobody involved in making the decision bears the negative impact of the decision.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 18, 2017 12:19 PM (X52ZZ)

167 I was lucky to have passed a GED to land my forever job.

Posted by: Federal Employee Entrenched Deeper Than A Creosote Root at February 18, 2017 12:19 PM (nN3W/)

168 Time to go spritz the Boston Butt.

We are still doing phrasing, right?

Posted by: blaster at February 18, 2017 12:20 PM (HV1LS)

169 What is science? What is scientific research?

These are not flippant questions. If you know anything about the
Science Industrial Complex, you know there's lots of stuff that gets
called "science" that is either: 1. Not science, or 2. Of no practical
value to humanity, or 3. Both.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 12:03 PM (Pz4pT)
Good point. My view is colored (?) ...Let me try that again. My view is of color by my experience in chemistry, where that's not a problem. The social sciences are another story entirely, and 99% of what they do is crap as far as I can tell. The tell here: how often are they surprised by their data? Answer: virtually never. Their data seem always to support their original hypothesis. In the no-shit sciences, we are surprised all. the. time.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 12:08 PM (SRKgf)

Chemistry might be relatively unsullied, I honestly do not know, but obviously there are several disciplines of "hard" science that have that very type of thing happening. "Gotcha" research going on, and the self-selecting topics, based on what is and what is NOT allowed to be studied.

One of my greatest pet peeves: The almost complete lack of hard research being done on the effects of marijuana, long term.

There are many studies that demonstrate short term effects (they are real, and they are serious), but there's almost nothing being done, for example, to determine there are real links between marijuana consumption and early dementia.

I can assure you, there is anecdotal evidence. But studies? Zip. Nada. Zilch. It's almost as if the funders don't WANT to know the effects.

Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 12:20 PM (Pz4pT)

170 Boycott institutions that embrace safe spaces, rape culture hysteria, and violent suppression of speech. There are plenty of alternatives out there. Starve the beast.

I personally will not send my boys to college unless they have clear career goals that do not include office assistant or barista as the logical outcome. That means BS at a minimum, and engineering, science, or other in demand, competitive profession for which their contribution will extend beyond, "you want fries with that?". Military academy? Even better.

Otherwise, there are plenty of trades that need sharp, hard-working people, and that is respectable, valuable work.

Finally, get the Fed out of the student loan business will dry up the easy money that subsidizes those bullshit X-studies programs. When institutions feel the financial pinch, they will be forced to refocus to the core mission, education, away from being an SJW-mill.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 18, 2017 12:21 PM (GX63o)

171 Working on convincing them this is a smart move - maybe at least do it for 2-3 years before going to college, since I can't convince them to go in the Marines....

Posted by: blaster at February 18, 2017 12:17 PM (HV1LS)

Kids (and adults) don't think this far ahead, but retirement before 50 would be a nice benefit, too.

Posted by: Press One for Moron at February 18, 2017 12:21 PM (/f1mm)

172 @119 Are you really talking about penalizing people who don't go to college?
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I'm not seeing it that way. The extra four years of work is the time that otherwise would have been spent at a four year (and, increasingly these days, five and six year...) university. Both the graduate and the guy who didn't go to college retire at the same time. But the guy who didn't go has a few extra years of work under his belt.

Posted by: junior at February 18, 2017 12:21 PM (nsZ+m)

173 162: I've never understood why "Bi" people need protection or help. By definition, they can go either way, so the world is their oyster!

Posted by: LASue, so very deplorable at February 18, 2017 12:22 PM (CLKfs)

174 A study of the VA just revealed that some of their employees are 100% involved in union activities, zero percent patient care administering to vets.

It was on last night's John Batchelor podcast.

Infuriating.

Posted by: navybrat at February 18, 2017 12:22 PM (w7KSn)

175 22,
"1. Feds: Quit subsidizing student loans

2. Banks: Approve or reject student loan applications based on the proposed major and the applicant's academic record"

This is another Dem. money laundering scheme.

Student loans done by Federal government which allow colleges to charge more, this subsidizes the cult indoctrination factories. Student loans impoverish the graduates but --- they can get loans forgiven by working in a good government union job or and activist NGO job for 10 years which will contribute either money (dues) or feet on the ground (activists) to the great and almighty Party in return for loan forgiveness which means taxpayer money spent to subsidize the Party.

Winning!

Posted by: geoffb5 at February 18, 2017 12:22 PM (d3wbb)

176 I want to live long enough to see the next ice age cover Iowa. Draining the swamp can wait.

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 18, 2017 12:23 PM (Ik1WR)

177 @162 I've never understood why "Bi" people need protection or help. By definition, they can go either way, so the world is their oyster!
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Because otherwise the gays would lynch them all.

Posted by: junior at February 18, 2017 12:23 PM (nsZ+m)

178
I'm surprised no Moron has yet used the nickname "Bea Arthur's Boobs"
Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:17 PM (wPiJc)

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I bet there's a limerick in there somewhere.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 12:23 PM (kTF2Z)

179 "Bi" people ... the world is their oyster

or their clam, because, you know, they're up for whatever

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 18, 2017 12:24 PM (6FqZa)

180 Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at February 18, 2017 12:13 PM (ZFUt7)

This is true.

With that context and clarification, I misunderstood the first post.

I apologize.

Posted by: dDan at February 18, 2017 12:24 PM (hwYmz)

181 I've never understood why "Bi" people need protection or help. By definition, they can go either way, so the world is their oyster!
Posted by: LASue, so very deplorable at February 18, 2017 12:22 PM (CLKfs)

Bisexual guy? He's a fag in denial.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 18, 2017 12:24 PM (gp9bb)

182 Speaking of draining the swamp, that terrorist bastard, the Blind Sheikh, just died in prison. My dream of seeing him repatriated to Egypt one body part at a time has ended in futility.

Posted by: CPT11A at February 18, 2017 12:26 PM (koG1G)

183 I bet there's a limerick in there somewhere.

Posted by: Duke Lowell

******

While surfing the interwebtubes
You should make sure to bring lots of lube
You must overcome friction
When you view a depiction
And start fapping to Bea Arthur's boobs.

(ewww)

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:26 PM (wPiJc)

184 Is there any 'evidence' that diversity makes things better? Or is this one of those "The Science is Settled" propositions

Posted by: Buzzsaw90

They are not interested in 'better', so evidence doesn't come into it. For them, seeking after particular kinds of 'diversity' is a moral principle, and as such needs no justification.

President #44 is diverse, an historic first. That's all that matters. It doesn't matter that he's an immoral, incompetent, dangerous fool. It's the principle of the thing.

Diversity as such is neutral, sometimes good sometimes bad. It's not an unconditional good. That's obvious to all except liberals.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 12:26 PM (W8bn5)

185 No, it would just force these institutions to be more selective and careful about what research they do, because it would be limited to the funds they have, and private donations rather than sucking from the government teat.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 12:13 PM (39g3+)

Sorry, have to disagree. Scientific research is too expensive for that, but there's a more apposite point: even if institutions supported their own research, how would they decide which proposals to fund? The only people who can really assess the merit of a proposal are themselves in the same field, and departments typically spread out their faculty appointments across a range of subdisciplines (think placekickers on NFL teams).

Furthermore, the fruits of basic research are imponderable going in, so few people/companies will fund them because it's not clear what the benefit will be to them. Guys screwing around measuring the electrical properties of metalloids led - ultimately - to the transistor. Guys screwing around measuring the optical properties of chromium-doped silica led to the laser, which for years was termed the "solution in search of a problem." Guys screwing around irradiating samples in magnetic fields with RF sources invented NMR, while decades later guys screwing around with doing NMR on oranges and mouse tails - this time as a function of space, rather than frequency - invented MRI.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 18, 2017 12:26 PM (SRKgf)

186 I read the job opening blurb, and threw it away. Among other things it required applicants to write an essay on how they'd supported LGBTQIA (whatever that is) students in their quest for ... whatever it is they're questing for.

-----------

Dear Hiring Committe,

I try to teach them a deep understanding of chemistry. Just like I do with the rest of my fucking students. I can haz job now?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 12:26 PM (kTF2Z)

187 I have boys in 10th grade, got a mailing beginning of this year that an electrical company was hiring HS grads no experience required, they would train you, 1st year income guaranteed, $30k, 2d year guaranteed $60k. Presuming it levels off there, that means 4 years after graduation is +$210k v dumping that much down some college rathole.

Working on convincing them this is a smart move - maybe at least do it for 2-3 years before going to college, since I can't convince them to go in the Marines....
Posted by: blaster at February 18, 2017 12:17 PM (HV1LS)

I have heard this, some industries where any kind of aptitude for electronics is desperately needed, they'll take people, pay them well, and train them to do the work.

No, the phrase "desperately needed" is not hyperbole.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 12:27 PM (Pz4pT)

188 157 Is there any 'evidence' that diversity makes things better? Or is this one of those "The Science is Settled" propositions

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 18, 2017 12:07 PM (PqqkK)

Seems that science has been settled for thousands of years. Bakers, metallurgists, chemists, and countless others long ago discovered the usefulness of mixing and combining. I doubt there's much place for diversity unless you are aiming for distinct separation between things.

Posted by: Press One for Moron at February 18, 2017 12:27 PM (/f1mm)

189 >>>>or their clam<<<<

It has been a while since Spartacus, but if I remember right it was oysters vs snails.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at February 18, 2017 12:28 PM (x3uSY)

190 "Bea Arthur's Boobs"

Different than Bette Davis eyes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2017 12:28 PM (ZO497)

191 Diversity is a push: there are benefits and drawbacks to it. You can learn from each other, and by exposure to someone with different backgrounds and experiences, get a perspective on life you weren't aware of in your own. But it also sets up inherent clashes, usually innocent enough, of cultural misunderstandings and presumptions. Diversity will also tend to create clicques and tribes rather than blending, unless a more powerful, more important tribe pulls them all together (like, say, a vision of freedom as given in the US Constitution).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 18, 2017 12:28 PM (39g3+)

192 There's a whole lot of evidence, throughout history, that diversity makes things the polar opposite of better. Well, better for the barbarians at the gate, I guess.

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 18, 2017 12:29 PM (dSa5I)

193 "Bea Arthur's Boobs"

Different than Bette Davis eyes.

******

Sort of googly, all the same.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:29 PM (wPiJc)

194 Drain the swamp!

Got some errands and such to do.

Kek vult!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 18, 2017 12:30 PM (o+ZNM)

195 I have heard this, some industries where any kind of aptitude for electronics is desperately needed, they'll take people, pay them well, and train them to do the work.

No, the phrase "desperately needed" is not hyperbole.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 12:27 PM (Pz4pT)

Very much related:

https://tinyurl.com/h7gwwye

(Link goes to St. Louis Post-Disgrace story about Navy Hornets not fit for duty because of wear)

Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 12:30 PM (Pz4pT)

196 Rot in Hell, asshole:

http://tinyurl.com/zqzfpkt

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at February 18, 2017 12:31 PM (Saqzi)

197 Salad bowl diversity usually ends in blood, America is a unique animal with the melting pot idea. But no integration, blood in the streets.

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 18, 2017 12:31 PM (dSa5I)

198 Different than Bette Davis eyes.

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Or Marty Feldman Eyes

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 18, 2017 12:31 PM (y3aQB)

199 I'm surprised no Moron has yet used the nickname "Bea Arthur's Boobs"
Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:17 PM (wPiJc)

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I bet there's a limerick in there somewhere.

Posted by: Duke Lowell

Bea Arthur was flashing her boobs
While thinking "This'll fool the rubes.
They don't understand
That I'm really a man
And these sweater puppies are actually moobs"

I'm not pleased with the meter, but I'm no poet.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 12:32 PM (W8bn5)

200 Speaking of googly, do a search for Lynda Carter. Wonder Woman from the 70s is nearly 70 and still very much a 1.

Posted by: Press One for Moron at February 18, 2017 12:32 PM (/f1mm)

201 They are not interested in 'better', so evidence doesn't come into it. For them, seeking after particular kinds of 'diversity' is a moral principle, and as such needs no justification.

President #44 is diverse, an historic first. That's all that matters. It doesn't matter that he's an immoral, incompetent, dangerous fool. It's the principle of the thing.

Diversity as such is neutral, sometimes good sometimes bad. It's not an unconditional good. That's obvious to all except liberals.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 12:26 PM (W8bn5)

Actually, I'm pretty sure that IS one of the legal justifications. Somehow diversity is SUPPOSED to lead to better outcomes, but I don't think it's being looked into, because as I said before, legally, it HAS been settled.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 12:34 PM (Pz4pT)

202 Hi, everybody.

Gardening Thread is up. Have fun, whether here or there.

Posted by: KT at February 18, 2017 12:35 PM (qahv/)

203 This is true.
With that context and clarification, I misunderstood the first post.
I apologize.
Posted by: dDan

No problem.

Posted by: E Depluribus Juan at February 18, 2017 12:35 PM (ZFUt7)

204 h/t Instapundit

Apparently Rutgers University turned people away from a job fair because those individuals were wearing blue suits and/or brown shoes, and violated a dress code that had been put in place recently.

Uh...

Posted by: junior at February 18, 2017 12:36 PM (nsZ+m)

205 Sort of googly, all the same.
Posted by: Muldoon
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I never thought it would lead to this.

Posted by: Billy DeBeck at February 18, 2017 12:37 PM (ZO497)

206 an electrical company was hiring HS grads no experience required, they would train you, 1st year income guaranteed, $30k, 2d year guaranteed $60k.

I like it! That's exactly what businesses should do.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 18, 2017 12:38 PM (PXbkt)

207 http://thedeclination.com/radfems-cenobites-and-the-lament-configuration/

Very interesting. And, yes, I can see all that: Sinner at night, moralist in the day (both to atone for and to magnify the sin).

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 18, 2017 12:38 PM (oVJmc)

208 http://thedeclination.com/radfems-cenobites-and-the-lament-configuration/

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo

This makes sense - feminists being taught all their lives to despise their true natures, and then their desires eventually assert themselves in ugly, destructive ways. The anger they express is really anger at themselves.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 12:39 PM (W8bn5)

209 Hi, everybody.

Gardening Thread is up. Have fun, whether here or there.

Posted by: KT

Oh, don't patronize us! To you, we non-gardeners are dhimmis! Second class citizens! You want to put us in the camps!

/kidding

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 12:40 PM (W8bn5)

210 Anybody remember Blue Sky Sessions? Ours is now open. Throw out an idea, if you've got one. We can work out the practicalities later.

Out of the door. Line on the left. One cross each.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 18, 2017 12:42 PM (XQSfA)

211 Burger, fries and a Sheik.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2017 12:43 PM (IqV8l)

212 Posted by: Billy DeBeck

*****

I didn't recognize this name, had to google it.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:43 PM (wPiJc)

213 Diversity is a push: there are benefits and drawbacks to it. You can
learn from each other, and by exposure to someone with different
backgrounds and experiences

Yes.

Posted by: Kyrie Irving at February 18, 2017 12:44 PM (Tyii7)

214 how to solve every national problem with one law: by cornbred

1. Every lawyer that loses a trial is immediately taken behind the courthouse and shot in the head.

2. Problem solved.

Posted by: cornbred at February 18, 2017 12:44 PM (f7fLH)

215 You want to put us in the camps!

/kidding
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
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Worse. Fertilizer.

Posted by: Billy DeBeck at February 18, 2017 12:46 PM (ZO497)

216 how to solve every national problem with one law: by cornbred

I take it that you've lost a case. Divorce court?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 18, 2017 12:46 PM (XQSfA)

217 Oops.
Sheds cartoonist sock

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2017 12:46 PM (ZO497)

218 1. Every lawyer that loses a trial is immediately taken behind the courthouse and shot in the head.

2. Problem solved.
Posted by: cornbred
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I think that Loser Pays would do the job. Also, no post-trial mess to clean up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2017 12:48 PM (ZO497)

219 "216 how to solve every national problem with one law: by cornbred

I take it that you've lost a case. Divorce court?"

No.

Ok, yes, but I'm telling you it would work.

Posted by: cornbred at February 18, 2017 12:48 PM (f7fLH)

220 how to solve every national problem with one law: by cornbred

1. Every lawyer that loses a trial is immediately taken behind the courthouse and shot in the head.

2. Problem solved.
Posted by: cornbred at February 18, 2017 12:44 PM (f7fLH)

*Disclaimer: This post neither advocates the killing of anyone, nor discriminates based on legal accumen...

What, you gonna drop the ones who win cases in vats of boiling lava?

Cuz really man, the good lawyers are more a menace than the bad ones.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 12:49 PM (Pz4pT)

221 http://thedeclination.com/radfems-cenobites-and-the-lament-configuration/

Very interesting. And, yes, I can see all that: Sinner at night, moralist in the day (both to atone for and to magnify the sin).
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 18, 2017 12:38 PM (oVJmc)

Very well written...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 18, 2017 12:51 PM (qf6WZ)

222 220. Second look at dueling and trial by combat and ordeal?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 18, 2017 12:52 PM (o+ZNM)

223 I didn't recognize this name, had to google it.

Posted by: Muldoon
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The Horde is a fecund garden of obscure references.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2017 12:52 PM (ZO497)

224 1. Every lawyer that loses a trial is immediately taken behind the courthouse and shot in the head.

******

Bill? Billy Shakespeare? Is that you?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 12:52 PM (wPiJc)

225 Privatize education. Tax endowments. Do away with tax exemptions. Privatize parks. I'm tired of paying for rich people hiking and biking trails. Don't get me started on stadiums and arenas. Most people won't admit that every organization in the world is a variation on ones we decry from the past. Read The King's Gambit (SPQR I) and tell me that current times are any better politically speaking. Engineering has improved but politics hasn't.

Posted by: Ok at February 18, 2017 12:52 PM (LD6vw)

226 214 how to solve every national problem with one law: by cornbred

1. Every lawyer that loses a trial is immediately taken behind the courthouse and shot in the head.

2. Problem solved.
Posted by: cornbred at February 18, 2017 12:44 PM (f7fLH)

sorry, but with the current Judiciary, all you would end up with are Lefty Lawyers, and those who take any woman's side in a divorce proceeding...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 18, 2017 12:53 PM (qf6WZ)

227 Here at AoSHQ, a few heartening signs of swamp-draining have been noted lately.

*****

Season 3, episode 6

Posted by: The Curse of Oak Island at February 18, 2017 12:55 PM (wPiJc)

228 220 how to solve every national problem with one law: by cornbred

1. Every lawyer that loses a trial is immediately taken behind the courthouse and shot in the head.

2. Problem solved.
Posted by: cornbred at February 18, 2017 12:44 PM (f7fLH)

*Disclaimer: This post neither advocates the killing of anyone, nor discriminates based on legal accumen...

What, you gonna drop the ones who win cases in vats of boiling lava?

Cuz really man, the good lawyers are more a menace than the bad ones.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2017 12:49 PM (Pz4pT)

The problem is the proliferation of lawyers, with too many of them looking for the big score.

Ok, maybe shooting them in the head is too extreme. Kneecap maybe?

Posted by: cornbred at February 18, 2017 12:55 PM (f7fLH)

229 222 220. Second look at dueling and trial by combat and ordeal?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 18, 2017 12:52 PM (o+ZNM)

You have no idea how fast you would suddenly see the 'Black Tiger Academy'... which teaches Elizabethan Fencing... become a money making proposition...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 18, 2017 12:55 PM (qf6WZ)

230 Every lawyer that knowingly gets a child rapist off is immediately taken behind the courthouse and shot in the head. After a while all the child rapist and their putrid lawyers will be gone and they won't be able to run for President.

Posted by: Ok at February 18, 2017 12:56 PM (LD6vw)

231 http://thedeclination.com/radfems-cenobites-and-the-lament-configuration/
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Interesting read. It is sad that it must be couched in such vulgarity, but, vulgar is as vulgar does, and to the extent that the vulgarity is part and parcel of rising generations there is no way of avoiding it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2017 01:00 PM (ZO497)

232 230 Every lawyer that knowingly gets a child rapist off is immediately taken behind the courthouse and shot in the head. After a while all the child rapist and their putrid lawyers will be gone and they won't be able to run for President.
Posted by: Ok at February 18, 2017 12:56 PM (LD6vw)

Actually.... the biggest problem I see with the Law Profession is that they are the ONLY ones who Police themselves...

You need a Board of NOT Lawyers, who can take their licenses away for miscarriages of Justice.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 18, 2017 01:00 PM (qf6WZ)

233 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2017 01:00 PM (ZO497)

He is pointing to the extremes he sees..

But I see the trend in he Internet dating communities...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 18, 2017 01:02 PM (qf6WZ)

234 229. Dueling and all the rest of it made for a polite and civil society. Actual combat was very rare - the parties would usually work it out through seconds and what have you. Nobody lost honor. It could work, but we'd have to be a very different sort of people than we are now.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 18, 2017 01:03 PM (o+ZNM)

235 @204 Rutgers University turned people away from a job fair because those individuals were wearing blue suits and/or brown shoes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZLWD75KKGA

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 18, 2017 01:03 PM (H5rtT)

236 1. Every lawyer that loses a trial is immediately taken behind the courthouse and shot in the head.

2. Problem solved.

Posted by: cornbred

Is the rationale: if this were the case, lawyers would only accept trials they were almost certainly sure of winning.

This would eliminate the need for anti-SLAPP laws, which are only partially effective. It would deter a lot of lawsuits intended only to intimidate and discourage people into submission.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 01:04 PM (W8bn5)

237 Has anyone watched the Louder with Crowder episode with Joy Villa?

As one might of guessed she is an intelligent, contemplative, courageous woman. She was raised a conservative christian and did a pretty good job of laying out where her perspective comes from and when she made her decision to make the statement with the dress.

I like her alot.

Posted by: bananaDream at February 18, 2017 01:05 PM (Ag8Mw)

238 Now the Democrats want to Federalize redistricting...

https://lofgren.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?documentid=398138

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 18, 2017 01:07 PM (vBeA5)

239 I was at the Mall and my four year old saw a Ivy Leager at the food court. He started gigling and pointing at the man, hopping around as he chortled,

Everyone in the food court was looking at the child and, after glancing the object of his taunts, moved their gaze to me with palpable disaproval.

I was so embarrassed that I did not get to my son in time to keep him from creating a spectacle by mocking someone with such a pitifully ability to think or reason.

Posted by: Minuteman at February 18, 2017 01:07 PM (AjjIl)

240 Per a quote at Daily Caller, Betsy DeVos says she would be quite happy if she worked herself out of a job.

In other words, if the DOEd were to disappear.

That, my friends, would be a massive swamp drainin'.

And the new EPA head, Pruitt, has advocated in the past for the elimination of the EPA.

Rome wasn't drained in a day. Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2017 01:10 PM (xpfRn)

241 You need a Board of NOT Lawyers, who can take their licenses away for miscarriages of Justice.

Posted by: Don Q.

I like this. They can have law degrees, but not be lawyers.

And, we need term limits for federal judges, or some procedure by which biased judges can be purged.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 01:11 PM (W8bn5)

242 Dear Arizona, can you issue a silver alert for McCain's sanity?

Posted by: Patrick Henry at February 18, 2017 01:12 PM (a7IXj)

243
Roe v Wade woman "Jane Roe" is mort.

Norma McCovern, the plaintiff in Roe v Wade who later turned pro-life is dead at 69.

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 18, 2017 01:12 PM (gCg0/)

244
I just noticed this news. Anyone know how the Fake News is covering this death, if at all, and what spin they're putting on it?

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 18, 2017 01:13 PM (gCg0/)

245 Haven't read the comments so apologies if this was mentioned.

Endowments need to be taxed. Why are taxpayers funding institutions when said institutions have millions of dollars. Pay the professors and admin out of their own pockets for dubious degrees.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 18, 2017 01:13 PM (qIhPN)

246 Here's a link to the "swamp in question" quote:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hnfysq9

Posted by: gNewt at February 18, 2017 01:14 PM (FCAbp)

247 And the new EPA head, Pruitt, has advocated in the past for the elimination of the EPA.

Rome wasn't drained in a day. Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.

Posted by: GnuBreed

The left is strange, bizarre and grotesque. What you describe is ironic but not strange - it's just decent, responsible people (we hope) finally being appointed to positions of authority. That should be the natural order of things.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 01:15 PM (W8bn5)

248
Correction: " Jane Roe's" name is Norma McCorvey

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 18, 2017 01:16 PM (gCg0/)

249 Just read Milo's Facebook post - he is goi g to be giving a keynote address at CPAC this year. A flamboyant gay British dude at cpac..these are strange and interesting times indeed.

Posted by: IC at February 18, 2017 01:17 PM (gcme+)

250
I understand the weather today is okay in some parts but gee whiz where is everyone?

Get back in front of your computer screens!!

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 18, 2017 01:18 PM (gCg0/)

251
There is nothing for you Outside.

Outside is not your friend.

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 18, 2017 01:19 PM (gCg0/)

252
I hate the Sun!

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 18, 2017 01:19 PM (gCg0/)

253 Soothsayer 45, here in so cal, it's been biblical rains..but seems to be easing off now and heading north I guess. I'm too lazy to even venture out for food...lazy gainzzzzz.

Posted by: IC at February 18, 2017 01:21 PM (gcme+)

254 It's like pulling teeth. Here's the link to the original article: http://preview.tinyurl.com/j9o74f9

Posted by: gNewt at February 18, 2017 01:21 PM (FCAbp)

255 Endowments need to be taxed. Why are taxpayers funding institutions when said institutions have millions of dollars. Pay the professors and admin out of their own pockets for dubious degrees.
Posted by: Beartooth
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My plan, admittedly not fleshed out, is that no taxpayer-guaranteed loans would be available to students at schools with endowments of more than $1 Million (or some number...).

Let the schools provide the loans. I suspect that they would abruptly begin to pay much more attention to their curriculum and the quality of their teachers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2017 01:22 PM (ZO497)

256 Anyone know how the Fake News is covering this death, if at all, and what spin they're putting on it?

Posted by: Soothsayer 45

My guess: "If she were forced to be punished with a baby, she would have died a lot younger".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 01:22 PM (W8bn5)

257 Sessions DOJ, in concert wth the Devos DOEd, should target Universities and their HR departments, Ethnic Studies programs, and Diversity Offices for actual civil rights violations of any and all students as individual citizens. And it should be color-blind.

Contrary to what John Lewis and Al Sharpton might think: ALL CITIZENS have civil rights.

Saying that an individual. because he is white has WHITE PRIVIEDGE is racist.

Saying a male is a rapist because he is a male is sexist.

Saying conservatives and libertarians do not have freedom of speech is fascist.

Saying any group that peaceable gathers cannot have freedom of association is fascist.

A target rich environment indeed.

Posted by: Minuteman at February 18, 2017 01:23 PM (AjjIl)

258 22 1. Feds: Quit subsidizing student loans
2. Banks: Approve or reject student loan applications based on the proposed major and the applicant's academic record.
3. Businesses: Hire people for office and IT jobs right out of high school. FIND A WAY.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 18, 2017 11:24 AM (PXbkt)

Demanding a Bachelor's Degree for an entry level Admin position is absurd. The salaries are so low as to be an insult. I only had an Associates (20 years ago) and just talked to everyone I could and learned as I went. Showing a little interest and moxie got me into more challenging tasks over time.

......And not that kind of moxie!

Posted by: Pickleweasel (longtime lurker turned poster) at February 18, 2017 01:23 PM (6qFMc)

259 I found that ridiculing Ward Churchill and examining, dissecting, and debunking his every utterance proved very useful; while pirateballerina certainly didn't bring him down, it contributed significantly to marking him as a fraud and a liar. I believe that encouraged others to act, others with the power to move him along.

Heard anything about him lately? I didn't think so.

Posted by: jwpaine at February 18, 2017 01:24 PM (hoJm7)

260 Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 12:26 PM (kTF2Z)

Teaching locally to begin to effect change. Sounds nice. Tried it at a college here. Two semesters and I couldn't do it. Each student needed to be "deloused" and re entered as a clean slate. They would not read, they could not write, absolutely could not. They had no connectivity to the real world.

It was a lot of work and depressing. It did not help that it was world history and more than half of the class had never been out of state, let alone the country. I cannot imagine what they did in high school.

God bless all of you who take them on.

Posted by: gracepc at February 18, 2017 01:24 PM (OU4q6)

261 I'd like to see federal unions abolished, but that ain't gonna happen. Even now, the Repubs are merely gnawing around the edges, by trying to cut the amount of 'official time' that gubmint employees can spend ON THE CLOCK working on union issues. For the VA alone, that amounted to 1.1 MILLION hours last year. But it is feasible to make the federal workforce Right To Work, ie dump the mandatory union dues and the collection thereof.

When Walker instituted this in WI, teachers union membership fell 40%.

And also reform civil service protections, to something vaguely sane. It's crazy that many of these useless fucks cannot be fired without a literal act of Congress.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2017 01:26 PM (xpfRn)

262 gracepc - Last week I visited with a professor at a community college. He is in their Electrical Department. He spoke at length regarding the laziness and indifference of the students.

What is missing, it seems, is the desire to be something... to do something. There is very little genuine interest in what they are 'studying'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2017 01:28 PM (ZO497)

263 ...The left is...

Subsidized. God would let them starve if they didn't straighten up. GOPe and Dems have treated them as useful fools. They are turning into dangerous fools. Mayors and Governors are next. Notice Christie is getting his reward for kissing Obama's ass. (suit over bridge traffic)

Posted by: Ok at February 18, 2017 01:28 PM (LD6vw)

264 May the blind sheik rot in the eternal hellfire.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 18, 2017 01:28 PM (89T5c)

265 Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2017 01:26 PM (xpfRn)

Is there an actual good reason why civil service shouldn't be "at will" for employment?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 18, 2017 01:30 PM (sEDyY)

266 ----

My plan, admittedly not fleshed out, is that no taxpayer-guaranteed loans would be available to students at schools with endowments of more than $1 Million (or some number...).

Let the schools provide the loans. I suspect that they would abruptly begin to pay much more attention to their curriculum and the quality of their teachers.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2017 01:22 PM (ZO497)

I like the idea of using endowments for student loans. It would also lead to better qualified students getting loans because the school is now wants the loan repaid and leftist degrees don't do that.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 18, 2017 01:31 PM (qIhPN)

267 I like the idea of using endowments for student loans. It would also lead to better qualified students getting loans because the school is now wants the loan repaid and leftist degrees don't do that.
Posted by: Beartooth
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Exactly. Your graduates don't get jobs? Your loans don't get repaid.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2017 01:33 PM (ZO497)

268 81
The Blind Sheik dead in prison, aftrr serving life sentence.

Sentence complete!
Posted by: Spun and Murky at February 18, 2017 11:48 AM (4DCSq)

Great. I am looking forward to seeing the waves of muslim mobs his coffin surfs on, his putrifying corpse hanging ten until it spill out of the box.

Maybe he can beat the gnarly wave record set by Hoodaddy Khomeini. Whoa!

Posted by: Minuteman at February 18, 2017 01:33 PM (AjjIl)

269 ...desire...

Also called motivation. Open up opportunity in this country and watch what happens. They tax your ass out of existence unless your an illegal or connected. Hillary bragged about oppressive taxes when she was doing her world tour (extorting money).

...The percentage of taxes on GDP (in Pakistan) is among the lowest in the world...We (the United States) tax everything that moves and doesn't move, and that's not what we see in Pakistan...

Posted by: Ok at February 18, 2017 01:36 PM (LD6vw)

270 /sock

Posted by: Muldoon at February 18, 2017 01:37 PM (wPiJc)

271 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2017 01:22 PM (ZO497)

How is it that universities see having a massive endowment fund as a selling point instead of the indictment that it really is? You have a hundred million in endowments? Awesome, you can lower your tuition and stop taking government funds.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 18, 2017 01:38 PM (sEDyY)

272 265 Is there an actual good reason why civil service shouldn't be "at will" for employment?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

Well, not in my opinion but here's how the current system came about -- In the past, incoming admins would fire huge numbers of non-appointed workers and replace them with their cronies. Tammany Hall type stuff at the federal level.

But like damn near everything the gubmint 'fixes', the cure is worse than the disease.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2017 01:39 PM (xpfRn)

273 Any chance of eliminating the security departments and then starting over?

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 01:40 PM (HDU3V)

274 ...Is there an actual good reason why civil service shouldn't be "at will" for employment?...

Excuses were used to put the current system in place. No one has come up with any system that hasn't succumbed to corruption so far. God's way of dealing with corruption usually leaves a crater that has to be filled in.

Maybe make every position an elected position?

Posted by: Ok at February 18, 2017 01:41 PM (LD6vw)

275 "Any chance of eliminating the security departments and then starting over?"

I think Homeland Security was suppose to fix a lot of the ATF (BATF) issues. Didn't work.

I think best bet is to freeze hiring and let all these vital agencies gray out.

Posted by: Ok at February 18, 2017 01:45 PM (LD6vw)

276 Good afternoon horde. I just crawled out of bed (barely) with what I think is a lovely case of food poisoning. So forgive me if this has already been posted: Norma McCorvey (aka Jane Roe of Rove v Wade) has died at age 69. Her case was used to legalize abortion in the US. Aftwerwards she became a very vocal prolife activist.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 18, 2017 01:47 PM (bpfzP)

277 Let the schools provide the loans. I suspect that they would abruptly begin to pay much more attention to their curriculum and the quality of their teachers.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2017 01:22 PM (ZO497)

Work! You want me to, gasp, work. You, you bloat killer.

Posted by: Faculty Lounge at February 18, 2017 01:48 PM (FCAbp)

278 Ok, so blind sheik is dead. Is this the plan for Nidal Hasan and Dzhokar Tsarnaev? Let them rot till they die of old age?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 01:49 PM (W8bn5)

279 I see Soothie beat me to it upthread. Oh well. A brave woman who really fought the good fight.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 18, 2017 01:50 PM (bpfzP)

280 The blind sheik is dead? Hmm. I'm trying to find my sadness.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 18, 2017 01:51 PM (bpfzP)

281 CNN headline now:

NBA players take bold stance on politics.

Not if they're making the same anti Trump comments everyone else in the popular culture is making.

Conservatism is the new counter culture.

Posted by: Independent George's Phone at February 18, 2017 01:53 PM (FKOs9)

282
Oh well. A brave woman who really fought the good fight.

She saw the error of her ways, so there's that.

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 18, 2017 01:53 PM (gCg0/)

283 Also, the duplication of departments across state university systems is another huge cost. I understand that you need some duplication based upon population density or distances between universities (see Montana).

However, offering so many of the same degree programs, I'm looking at you business schools, degrades quality and of course less qualified students become the norm because they have to pay for that shiny new business building with the massage chairs and espresso bar.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 18, 2017 01:58 PM (qIhPN)

284 Grammie, you got food poisoning from the swanky restaurant?

drink lots of water

poor thing

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 18, 2017 01:58 PM (Om16U)

285 Reading wikipedia, it seems Norma McCorvey never had an abortion. I never knew that- a lesbian who had 3 kids who never had an abortion was the means of legalizing abortion.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 02:02 PM (W8bn5)

286 Grammie, you got food poisoning from the swanky restaurant?

drink lots of water

poor thing

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 18, 2017 01:58 PM (Om16U)
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Ya I think I did. The restaurant was lovely, the view was gorgeous, and the food was really really good. And not those teensy portions either. About an hour after we got home, I started getting violently ill. Just in the last half hour have I felt like I might possibly not die. Sipping on some lemon water right now.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 18, 2017 02:05 PM (bpfzP)

287 Restaurant food poisoning doesn't have anything todo with how nice it is.
Grammie take care

Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2017 02:08 PM (HDU3V)

288 Posted by: Pat at February 18, 2017 12:01 PM (hRWzP)

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Remember. Paragraphs are your friends.

Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2017 02:09 PM (Fmupd)

289 did you tell the restaurant?

that's awful

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 18, 2017 02:12 PM (Om16U)

290 Line is already 3 miles long in FLA to see Trump. Event is still hours away.

Think MSM covers the crowd? I bet no.

Posted by: maria at February 18, 2017 02:15 PM (0CBfo)

291 did you tell the restaurant?

that's awful

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 18, 2017 02:12 PM (Om16U)
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Ya Rev called them this morning. They said they hadn't heard from any other customers, but he called pretty early. He and I had two entirely different things to eat, so no comparison there. At least I feel like I might live.

You know who else is alive? Yoko Ono turns 85 years old today. I thought you all would want to know.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 18, 2017 02:18 PM (bpfzP)

292 Line is already 3 miles long in FLA to see Trump. Event is still hours away.
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Wow.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 18, 2017 02:19 PM (bpfzP)

293
Fake News does not approve of President's rally today and they want you to know it.

Fake News is telling us it's wrong for Mr President to do this!

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 18, 2017 02:19 PM (gCg0/)

294 Well, not in my opinion but here's how the current system came about -- In the past, incoming admins would fire huge numbers of non-appointed workers and replace them with their cronies. Tammany Hall type stuff at the federal level.

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As for government employment, I find nothing wrong with this. Government service should not have "tenure". Civil service should have time limited contracts just like the military, and with the same criteria to eliminate them. You don't perform, you're out.

And they should be employed at the pleasure of the president, also like the military. Or discharged at the pleasure of the president.

Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2017 02:20 PM (Fmupd)

295 I think I like Slovakian nationalists. Especially this one.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zqwt2yb

Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2017 02:21 PM (sdi6R)

296 Fake News is telling us it's wrong for Mr President to do this!

Posted by: Soothsayer 45 at February 18, 2017 02:19 PM (gCg0/)
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What - he should go golfing instead? Fill out his brackets maybe? Those are the truly Presidential qualities that I like to see.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 18, 2017 02:22 PM (bpfzP)

297 Fake News does not approve of President's rally today and they want you to know it.

Fake News is telling us it's wrong for Mr President to do this!

I remember Obama having these kinds of things continually.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 18, 2017 02:23 PM (oVJmc)

298 IThe MFM can go fuck themselves.

Posted by: steevy at February 18, 2017 02:24 PM (r/0kC)

299 Santa Clarita Diet on Netflix - yea or nay?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 18, 2017 02:26 PM (Om16U)

300 Trouble brewing for the mullahs in Iran?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/grwdr5v

(American Thinker) That sure would be a darn shame.

#stillnottiredofwinning

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2017 02:30 PM (xpfRn)

301 299. Hmmm...... does that involve the McRib, by any chance?

https://youtu.be/D9fnfusdJYs

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 18, 2017 02:30 PM (o+ZNM)

302 Fake News does not approve of President's rally today and they want you to know it.

Fake News is telling us it's wrong for Mr President to do this!

Posted by: Soothsayer 45

When it comes to the MSM, like a wise old person confronted with a loudmouthed a**hole, I turn off my hearing aid, smile, and nod politely.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 02:34 PM (W8bn5)

303 301 299. Hmmm...... does that involve the McRib, by any chance?

https://youtu.be/D9fnfusdJYs
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 18, 2017 02:30 PM (o+ZNM)

She's a 1.

Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2017 02:36 PM (sdi6R)

304 303. Yep. And, given that McDonald's stuff seems to work for catering family holidays, a thrifty one, as well.

A man could do worse.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at February 18, 2017 02:38 PM (o+ZNM)

305 Fox News is calling DT's rally a "campaign rally".

Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2017 02:38 PM (Fmupd)

306 I think I like Slovakian nationalists. Especially this one.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zqwt2yb

Posted by: rickl

If she needs funding I would be able to contribute a few k for that. That was awesome.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2017 02:40 PM (W8bn5)

307 Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, the "Blind Sheikh," died in prison this morning.

Oh, he's gonna HATE Thursdays...

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 18, 2017 02:42 PM (97XyN)

308 Nood. Sack of shit being tossed into van.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 18, 2017 02:47 PM (kTF2Z)

309 I hate the Sun!

Try the Daily Mirror.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 18, 2017 02:51 PM (LTHVh)

310 When government forced banks to make bad loans in the name of "fairness", it blew up in everyone's face. And politicians then blamed banks: "How Dare You Make Those Risky Loans We Forced You To Make!"

Student loans are the same. Only the Gummint makes them. They went from 5% of the loan market (for widows and orphans) to 95% today. And its crushing the people it was meant to help with debt. Not to mention taxpayers.

Stop "helping". Mike Rowe is right.

As for the Academy, it's not. An Academy. Any true academy would teach students how to think for themselves, not what to think.

It is instead an extremist political indoctrination center. It is funded by Americans of all political views, yet teaches only one political view, and an extreme one at that.

Gut their funding. Tax the endowments. Stop the Madness. End the Extremists' Free Ride. #DrainThePeriodicallyInundatedBorealWetland...
and support actual education for a change.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 18, 2017 02:57 PM (Ndje9)

311 Oysters or clams? It doesn't matter: they're both "bi-valves"!

Posted by: Dr Weevil at February 18, 2017 06:24 PM (dZ2ai)

312 Conservative retirees could assess classes at local unis and correct the profs as required. I would rather golf. But it's an idea.

Posted by: Anna Mac at February 18, 2017 11:57 PM (xujfC)

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