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Victory Of Joshua over The Amalekites
Julius Schnorr von Carolsfeld

This is from the Book of Joshua, and seems to be fine advice for President Trump's nominees, in particular Judge Gorsuch.

Did I not command you, be strong and have courage, do not fear and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.

I was going to use a painting of Daniel in the lions' den, from the Book of Judges Daniel!* But I already used it...alas.

*Oops.

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 Top 10!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 01, 2017 09:27 AM (SUd6i)

2 Where's the ruins of the walls?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet sponsors The Man in the High Dudgeon! at February 01, 2017 09:27 AM (hLRSq)

3 Someone get the others

Posted by: Tonypete at February 01, 2017 09:28 AM (SUd6i)

4 3 Someone get the others
Posted by: Tonypete at February 01, 2017 09:28 AM (SUd6i)


Need moar coffee first.

*stumbles over dog*

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 09:29 AM (Pd7Sl)

5 Great painting, CBD. grammie will be along with her trumpet any minute now.

Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 09:31 AM (sBOL1)

6 5

Posted by: MadDawgArt at February 01, 2017 09:32 AM (/r8l5)

7 Hillary Clinton will never be president.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 01, 2017 09:32 AM (kTF2Z)

8 Haaaaarrrffff. Sounds like the noise you make when you puke. And yes, she makes me sick.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at February 01, 2017 09:33 AM (a3sfz)

9 Who farted?

Posted by: Reverse Polish Notation at February 01, 2017 09:33 AM (qfDb3)

10 Why are these rednecks abusing those midget ponies?

Posted by: Fritz at February 01, 2017 09:33 AM (2Mnv1)

11 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 09:34 AM (W2Fol)

12 Wife was on twitter while Trump was announcing his SCOTUS pick. It took Schumer all of thirty seconds to tweet his opposition. So predictable. So tiresome.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 01, 2017 09:35 AM (kTF2Z)

13 Biblical week

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 09:35 AM (Om16U)

14 Not a crossbow in sight!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 09:35 AM (W2Fol)

15 Violence never solved anything. I think I saw that on a Prius somewhere.

Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 09:35 AM (7HtZB)

16 Why are three guys trying to shoot another guy in the ass?

I'm not getting the strategery here.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 09:35 AM (97XyN)

17 repost:

FREE BOOK by a great SF yarn spinner - Henry Vogel.
and check out his new release in the series.
It's space ships & stuff

Link in nic

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 09:36 AM (Om16U)

18 Wife was on twitter while Trump was announcing his SCOTUS pick. It took Schumer all of thirty seconds to tweet his opposition.



That long? The dick must have been asleep.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 09:36 AM (W2Fol)

19 Looks more like a riot or kerfuffle or fracas than a battle, what with the lack of armor. Yeah, I see a few helmets, but c'mon.

And those archers are waay too close to their targets. The summoners and black mages (I assume that's what the three in the distance are) have the right idea, being far away from the action. Though maybe one of the three is a bard?

Man, bards are almost useless, but I guess you work with what you got. Maybe they couldn't afford the armor for a knight or samurai?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 09:36 AM (u0s1P)

20 The whole thing seems a little homoerotic to me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 01, 2017 09:36 AM (B2ga5)

21 Joshua fit the battle of Jericho.

Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 09:37 AM (tewYv)

22 >>Not a crossbow in sight!

No tridents either.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 09:37 AM (/tuJf)

23 18 Wife was on twitter while Trump was announcing his SCOTUS pick. It took Schumer all of thirty seconds to tweet his opposition.



That long? The dick must have been asleep.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 09:36 AM (W2Fol)

====================

"Hey, these pre-made signs really do reflect my long held views on this event that happened thirty seconds ago."
-Protester

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 09:37 AM (ThL6N)

24 Why are three guys trying to shoot another guy in the ass?


He's taking the only red towel. Duh.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 01, 2017 09:37 AM (B2ga5)

25 FBN: Senate Finance committee is voting to suspend rules so they can vote on Price and Mnuchin.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 09:37 AM (Enq6K)

26 See, you're Christian holy books are full of jihad too !!!

Posted by: Derp at February 01, 2017 09:38 AM (nCSwS)

27 FBN: Senate Finance committee is voting to suspend rules so they can vote on Price and Mnuchin.

But only if the Price is Right.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 09:38 AM (u0s1P)

28 There wasn't a lot of uniformity in weapons procurement back then, from what I can see.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 01, 2017 09:38 AM (B2ga5)

29 Ha ha ha:

http://shirt.woot.com/offers/aa-rp-4?ref=sh_cnt_wp_0_13

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 01, 2017 09:38 AM (gTQoY)

30 That painting could be metaphor for oh-so-many scenarios of the Right overrunning the commiesatanlovingprogtardleft, and putting 'em to the sword.

And if the left keeps up their madness, it's gonna go from dress rehearsals, past live "theatre" to BREAKING NEWS, in the blink of an eye.

Upon their heads, be it.

"Terrible Swift Sword", isn't just a lyric in a song, and "62 grains of 5.56 at 3,100 fps", is just a wee bit swifter than that sword.

That said, I'm thankful to not be living in moonbatville, as I frankly, never see the whackball left operating en-masse, this far South.

I'm sure they're out there, though. But they just don't materialize in numbers, here.

For which, as I said, I'm grateful.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 01, 2017 09:38 AM (v5iqM)

31 White lives matter protest?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 01, 2017 09:38 AM (aVYsC)

32 Schumer voted against Elaine Chow the other day. They are trying to hit bottom fast

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 09:38 AM (c6/9Q)

33 And how many times did they march around the city?

Posted by: BignJames at February 01, 2017 09:38 AM (x9c8r)

34 White House is no longer playing with CNN, at ZeroHedge:
the White House has confirmed that surrogates of the Trump administration will no longer appear on CNN and will instead go to "places where we think it makes sense to promote our agenda."





Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 09:39 AM (J5mC3)

35 28 There wasn't a lot of uniformity in weapons procurement back then, from what I can see.

--

I think soldiers usually had to bring their own gear to war.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 09:39 AM (Om16U)

36 Hum, did they have double recurve bows in 1400 BC?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 09:39 AM (mpXpK)

37 Is that guy in the middle holding a big rock and about to smash it on someone's head? Ugh. Arrows and rocks. I don't know how they did it.

Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 09:39 AM (sBOL1)

38 FBN: Senate Finance committee is voting to suspend rules so they can vote on Price and Mnuchin.


Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 09:37 AM (Enq6K)

They can do that ? They can do that !

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 09:39 AM (c6/9Q)

39 Speaking of war, Fox just announced that if the Dems try to boycott the committee hearings today the Republicans are going to suspend the rules that require Dem attendance and push forward.

And that's how you do it.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 09:39 AM (/tuJf)

40 **psst***
I hate to be one of those people...

The story of Daniel and the Lions' Den is in the Book of Daniel.

Posted by: Kris at February 01, 2017 09:39 AM (nwqNw)

41 The guy on the hill:

"Hey, WTF??? Get off my lawn!"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 01, 2017 09:40 AM (B2ga5)

42 Schumer voted against Elaine Chow the other day. They are trying to hit bottom fast

Schumer is an enemy of women of color, he does not want them to advance, he should be ashamed and resign.

EAT YOUR ALINSKY, BITCHES!

Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 09:40 AM (tewYv)

43 "Hey, these pre-made signs really do reflect my long held views on this event that happened thirty seconds ago."

-Protester

They must have had signs pre-printed for at least three potential nominees.
You have to wonder if the unused signs end up like The Big Game t-shirts for the team that loses, adorning the squares of third-world villages?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 01, 2017 09:40 AM (H5rtT)

44 There wasn't a lot of uniformity in weapons procurement back then, from what I can see.

Snark aside, a lot of ancient and not-so-ancient armies seemed to have a BYOW policy. Even the Romans, who you would think would be all over uniformity, had soldiers supply their own horses and things. IIRC, in several armies, part of what made a cavalryman part of the cavalry was that he owned a horse.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 09:40 AM (u0s1P)

45 Is that guy in the middle holding a big rock and about to smash it on someone's head? Ugh. Arrows and rocks. I don't know how they did it.

Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 09:39 AM (sBOL1)


Umm, with arrows and rocks.

Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 09:40 AM (tewYv)

46 that biblical dude on a white horse is wearing 16th century armor

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (c6/9Q)

47 BREAKING: Senate committee approves Trump Treasury, Health nominees without Dems present after GOP changes panel's rules.


WOW Reps. Find their BALLS Big League

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (y3aQB)

48 Is that guy in the middle holding a big rock and about to smash it on someone's head? Ugh. Arrows and rocks. I don't know how they did it.




"I don't know what WWIII will be fought with, but WWIV will be fought with stick & stones"
-Albert Einstein

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (W2Fol)

49 Loincloths?

Posted by: JEM at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (TppKb)

50 Yeah, the whole "give no quarter and enslave the women" thing works for me. Metaphorically speaking, of course. Although maybe not the part about the women. Maybe I should stop typing.

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable MMA Afficianado at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (RD7QR)

51 Speaking of war, Fox just announced that if the Dems try to boycott the committee hearings today the Republicans are going to suspend the rules that require Dem attendance and push forward.

And that's how you do it.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 09:39 AM (/tuJf)
-------------

It's almost too early in the day for more winning. Almost.

Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (sBOL1)

52 46 that biblical dude on a white horse is wearing 16th century armor

--

Ace lets everyone but me borrow the time machine.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (Om16U)

53 Orrin Hatch saying basically...."I've had it. I've been patient. But...FY."

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (Enq6K)

54 one difficult thing about old history, it is hard to imagine how brutal life was then. War was not something the read about in papers ... it was a bloody hand to hand thing, that could come to their house and rape and pillage, burn and torture.

Leftists complain about "rape" in the Bible being approved or something. They usually come up with something about the women "taken" after a bloody war. Life was brutal, and survivors learned to survive by making any allegiance necessary, to king, pope, or enemy soldier I guess.

We have been so pampered and protected, so the peace/love/tie-die left think forcing PC Religion on all would bring global peace, if the west would just stop being so mean.

But brutal mean carved out our little safe spaces, better not chase them too far away.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (nYqUL)

55 Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable MMA Afficianado at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (RD7QR)

LOL

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 09:42 AM (Om16U)

56 Speaking of war, Fox just announced that if the Dems try to boycott the committee hearings today the Republicans are going to suspend the rules that require Dem attendance and push forward.


BOOM

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 01, 2017 09:42 AM (B2ga5)

57 BREAKING: Senate committee approves Trump Treasury, Health nominees without Dems present after GOP changes panel's rules.



Bwahahahahahahaha LOL.
F U Dems. Who needs ya'?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 09:42 AM (W2Fol)

58 They're ALL Snipers!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 01, 2017 09:42 AM (ul9CR)

59 Seems like a good place to mention this:

A document from the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) indicates that
Donald Trump took steps last week to outmaneuver nonprofit
organizations, leaving them unable to officially campaign against him
over the next few years of his Presidency.

Filed on January 20th, 2017, the letter states that, while not an
official announcement for reelection, Donald Trump has filed an FEC Form
2 in order to ensure compliance with the Federal Election Campaign
Act. This is an unprecedented, although legal, move for the President
to make. Barack Obama did not file for his 2012 re-election bid until
April 2011. Having filed (even if not formally announcing a bid) as a
candidate, Trump would be able to coordinate with PACs and other similar
organizations.

More importantly, 501(c)(3) nonprofit organizations would no longer
be able to engage in political speech which could theoretically affect
the results of the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election without running the
risk of losing their nonprofit status. The move effectively bars
interest groups from creating nonprofits which they could funnel money
into for the purposes of opposing Trump's initiatives. This will likely
create chaos for political opponents of Trump such as George Soros, who
has sunk significant amounts of money into various nonprofit groups with
the intent of opposing Trump's government.



This guy, he gets it. It's War, and you fight to Win.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 09:42 AM (NOIQH)

60 Good they change the rules and passed Price out of committee without any left wingers present. Good for Hatch.

FUCK THE LEFT

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 09:42 AM (SjImc)

61 Warren - you go...Senator !

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 09:43 AM (c6/9Q)

62 Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 09:40 AM (u0s1P)

You'd think we'd see more ass jaw bones.

Posted by: BignJames at February 01, 2017 09:43 AM (x9c8r)

63 BREAKING: Senate committee approves Trump Treasury, Health nominees without Dems present after GOP changes panel's rules.

Schadenboner status: third stage ignition complete, heading out of the solar system.

Posted by: JEM at February 01, 2017 09:43 AM (TppKb)

64 FBN: Senate Finance committee is voting to suspend rules so they can vote on Price and Mnuchin.>>>

Quick everybody write in Price on your whiteboard protest sign.

Posted by: Protest Organizer at February 01, 2017 09:43 AM (aVYsC)

65 Soros' asshole has got to be sore this morning. Trump just shut down the DemocratNonProfitTaxScam Complex.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at February 01, 2017 09:43 AM (nFwvY)

66 The guy on the hill:

"Hey, WTF??? Get off my lawn!"


Nah, LIGHTNING BOLT! LIGHTNING BOLT!

You have to wonder if the unused signs end up like The Big Game t-shirts for the team that loses, adorning the squares of third-world villages?

This was covered back during the World Series. Professor-Empress Alex the Chick dropped the 411 on how and why that's not done any more.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 09:43 AM (u0s1P)

67 John Kerry looks pretty happy in the painting.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 01, 2017 09:43 AM (B2ga5)

68 War.

Uh.

What is it good for?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 09:44 AM (/tuJf)

69 dems tried to pull a Wisconsin. lol

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 09:44 AM (c6/9Q)

70 43 They must have had signs pre-printed for at least three potential nominees.
You have to wonder if the unused signs end up like The Big Game t-shirts for the team that loses, adorning the squares of third-world villages?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 01, 2017 09:40 AM (H5rtT)

===================

I hope that there are some Justice Willert signs out there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 09:44 AM (ThL6N)

71 Kagan confirmed with 63 votes and Sotomayor with 68 votes.

This is all theater and a waste of time but we all know that.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 01, 2017 09:44 AM (AC18V)

72 I wonder if Schumer voting against his wife was the last straw for McConnell

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 09:44 AM (Om16U)

73 47 BREAKING: Senate committee approves Trump Treasury, Health nominees without Dems present after GOP changes panel's rules.


WOW Reps. Find their BALLS Big League
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (y3aQB)

Speaking of "Big league" Jeff Bezo's blog had a piece about the "frightening parallels" between "1984" & the Trump administration. One example? Trump's use of "bigly" is an example of Newspeak.

Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 09:44 AM (7HtZB)

74 Hey Left wingers: Garland is old news..move on..or not, but shut the fuck up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 09:44 AM (SjImc)

75 68 War.

Uh.

What is it good for?


Absolutely everything!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 01, 2017 09:44 AM (ul9CR)

76 that biblical dude on a white horse is wearing 16th century armor

Duh, Time Mage. Or Time Lord.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 09:44 AM (u0s1P)

77 I think that's the first decent thing Hatch has ever done!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 01, 2017 09:45 AM (UDXti)

78 Fits right in with grammie winger marching her band around seven times.

Posted by: no good deed at February 01, 2017 09:45 AM (hJamr)

79 53 Orrin Hatch saying basically...."I've had it. I've been patient. But...FY."
Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (Enq6K)

=================

I'm sure the filibuster will survive this Democratic obstruction.

Also, I have it on good authority that pigs will fly soon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 09:45 AM (ThL6N)

80 You'd think we'd see more ass jaw bones.



Seeing a lot of jaw boning asses.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 09:45 AM (W2Fol)

81 Snipers....everywhere!

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 09:46 AM (1H9ox)

82 Copied from EMT because I got left behind back there with the aerosol cheese in a can.

"question regarding boycotting stupid stores: if you're given a gift card for, say, target or starbucks, should you still use it? "

--

Joe, what I would do is definitely use the card. Buy something from the store so they don't get to keep the card buyer's money...then go back and return the item for cash. That way, Target or wherever doesn't get to keep anything from it.

*twirls Snidley Whiplash moustache*

Posted by: Lady in Black - LONG LIVE THE SCALP WEASEL at February 01, 2017 09:46 AM (+FSld)

83 that biblical dude on a white horse is wearing 16th century armor

Duh, Time Mage. Or Time Lord.




Highlander. There can only be one.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 09:46 AM (W2Fol)

84 46 that biblical dude on a white horse is wearing 16th century armor
Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 09:41 AM (c6/9Q)

****

Yeah. Artists did that a lot. He could be trying to make the story more relateable to his audience by giving them contemporary dress. You'll notice a guy on the right has Roman armor on, and another looks more Greek. He could be using different styles to differentiate armies and people groups.

Posted by: Kris at February 01, 2017 09:46 AM (nwqNw)

85 Snark aside, a lot of ancient and not-so-ancient armies seemed to have a BYOW policy. Even the Romans, who you would think would be all over uniformity, had soldiers supply their own horses and things.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 09:40 AM (u0s1P)


The early Roman armies were basically the people who had enough slaves working at home that they could afford to take time off and go campaigning, and yes, they were expected to supply their own gear. The Marian reforms sorted most of that out though.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 01, 2017 09:46 AM (8nWyX)

86 Soros' asshole has got to be sore this morning.

I wish it were more than sore.

Posted by: JEM at February 01, 2017 09:46 AM (TppKb)

87 34 White House is no longer playing with CNN, at ZeroHedge:
the White House has confirmed that surrogates of the Trump administration will no longer appear on CNN and will instead go to "places where we think it makes sense to promote our agenda."





Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 09:39 AM (J5mC3)

OMG, I've been yelling at Republicans for years to do just this. They piss on you, you shake the dust off your shoes and go someplace where they'll at least give you a fair hearing. Trump is going to make the blood drain from my head.

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable MMA Afficianado at February 01, 2017 09:47 AM (RD7QR)

88 63 BREAKING: Senate committee approves Trump Treasury, Health nominees without Dems present after GOP changes panel's rules.

Schadenboner status: third stage ignition complete, heading out of the solar system.

Posted by: JEM at February 01, 2017 09:43 AM (TppKb)


Heh. See that black hole? Hit it!

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at February 01, 2017 09:47 AM (rIvb0)

89 https://tinyurl.com/ht74wo6

----------------------------------

White House Blackballs CNN; Refuses To Send Surrogates On "Fake News" Network

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 09:47 AM (y3aQB)

90 Donald Trump took steps last week to outmaneuver nonprofit
organizations, leaving them unable to officially campaign against him
over the next few years of his Presidency.


OMG - they will be 'literally shaking' all week with this.

'See !! He's Hitler trying to suppress all dissent !!'
'He'll send us to the camps next !!'

Posted by: Derp at February 01, 2017 09:47 AM (nCSwS)

91 If the situations were reversed,is there anybody in their right mind who thinks the Dems would have confirmed the R nominee?Such hypocrite frauds.

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 09:47 AM (r/0kC)

92 Schumer voted against Elaine Chow the other day. They are trying to hit bottom fast
Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 09:38 AM (c6/9Q)


This may be why Sen. Chris Coons of DE has voiced opposition to donk leadership obstruction tactics. He knows it's not playing well with the peeps.

It's funny, for a deep blue state, DE doesn't seem to be that unhinged. I don't know if Blue Hen is still lurking out there, but I'd like to hear his perspective and that of other First Staters.

Posted by: kallisto at February 01, 2017 09:47 AM (nNdYv)

93 Trump just shut down the DemocratNonProfitTaxScam Complex.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at February 01, 2017 09:43 AM (nFwvY)


Trump, um, I mean President Trump, understands that lawfare is a two way street!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 01, 2017 09:47 AM (UDXti)

94 82 Joe, what I would do is definitely use the card. Buy something from the store so they don't get to keep the card buyer's money...then go back and return the item for cash. That way, Target or wherever doesn't get to keep anything from it.

*twirls Snidley Whiplash moustache*

Posted by: Lady in Black - LONG LIVE THE SCALP WEASEL at February 01, 2017 09:46 AM (+FSld)

===================

They might only give it back in the form of a gift card. I'm not sure what the store's policy would be on requesting cash on a receipt that says the item was paid for with a gift card, but they'd probably refuse.

They don't want to give up that money, and it could invite fraud otherwise.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 09:48 AM (ThL6N)

95 You'd think we'd see more ass jaw bones.

Yeah, a lot of these painters aren't big on the whole "historical accuracy" thing. Though that's part of a larger trend, I think. IIRC in Shakespeare's time, the actors wore then-contemporary attire, not the garb of the setting.

In addition to men playing women and all that.

(To be fair, even Hollywood tries and fails to get historical details like that right, and research is easier now.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 09:48 AM (u0s1P)

96 Psy warfare and obedience.

Posted by: auscolpyr at February 01, 2017 09:48 AM (suO/a)

97 Nice photo, but shouldn't all the Left be, you know, over on the left?

Posted by: t-bird at February 01, 2017 09:48 AM (2z74n)

98 Two years ago, Girl Souts came to my door selling cookies. I looked directly into the adult with them and told her, when you quit supporting the killing of babies, maybe then we can discuss business. They haven't come back. Felt sorry for the little girls but, some things just need to be addressed. I may burn in hell for that one.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 01, 2017 09:48 AM (KP5rU)

99 Looks like one guy has 12th century armor and one guy has a Napoleonic hat on.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 09:49 AM (W2Fol)

100 I wonder if Schumer voting against his wife was the last straw for McConnell

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 09:44 AM (Om16U)
McConnell was indifferent to his tears. Actually, I think that maybe Schumer tried to make some kind of deal (get concessions) from McConnell on some things and got zero. Voting against Chow, who was already part of one cabinet is beyond stupid. It's unhinged.

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 09:49 AM (c6/9Q)

101 90 Donald Trump took steps last week to outmaneuver nonprofit
organizations, leaving them unable to officially campaign against him
over the next few years of his Presidency.

OMG - they will be 'literally shaking' all week with this.

'See !! He's Hitler trying to suppress all dissent !!'
'He'll send us to the camps next !!'
Posted by: Derp at February 01, 2017 09:47 AM (nCSwS)

====================

"Well, we said campaign finance laws were dumb. Want to help us dismantle them now?"
-The Right

"Fascists!"
-The Left

"Okey-dokey..."
-The Right

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 09:49 AM (ThL6N)

102 Trump's use of "bigly" is an example of Newspeak.

How about "breathalator" or "syncophant" from Obama? We could do this all day.

Posted by: no good deed at February 01, 2017 09:49 AM (hJamr)

103 >>Trump, um, I mean President Trump, understands that lawfare is a two way street!

And he's doing it *legally* - the FEC will be enforcing the law now, not bypassing it.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 09:49 AM (NOIQH)

104 I may burn in hell for that one.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 01, 2017 09:48 AM (KP5rU)

Yeah probably, but we'll both be in good company

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 09:49 AM (SjImc)

105

Decorum - a limerick

In Jericho the battle was hairy
With a violent din oh so scary
But there on the hill
A Chinese man named Bill
Said, "You go now, THIS LIBRARY!"

Posted by: Muldoon at February 01, 2017 09:49 AM (wPiJc)

106 Posted by: Lady in Black - LONG LIVE THE SCALP WEASEL at February 01, 2017 09:46 AM (+FSld)

Oh how I like the devious way your mind works!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 01, 2017 09:49 AM (UDXti)

107 Comicbooks have to just die now.Nothing but SJW bullshit.

http://tinyurl.com/h28xpmd

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 09:50 AM (r/0kC)

108 Speaking of war, Fox just announced that if the Dems try to boycott the committee hearings today the Republicans are going to suspend the rules that require Dem attendance and push forward.

Fuck "if." Suspend the rule and push forward anyway.

Shove "comity" right down these nickelfuckers' throats.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 01, 2017 09:50 AM (X6fMO)

109 I like that painting. I;d like to think that sometime President Trump visits his site and sees the lovely religious art, and that perhaps gets him to think about his faith. It's easy to not have faith when things are going your way, but IMO, God has been very gracious to Donald Trump and he was obviously raised in a religious household since his mother give him a Bible which he used at inauguration and which apparently was given to him at graduation from Sunday School-Confirmation?. I think if remembers to thank God- and thatt he didn't just achieve things all on his own-that it can only help him in his Presidency.

And here's what i think is a particularly nice refection from The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews-"We are the trees of the field":

http://tinyurl.com/z54tblv



Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 09:50 AM (fDdVG)

110 92 This may be why Sen. Chris Coons of DE has voiced opposition to donk leadership obstruction tactics. He knows it's not playing well with the peeps.

It's funny, for a deep blue state, DE doesn't seem to be that unhinged. I don't know if Blue Hen is still lurking out there, but I'd like to hear his perspective and that of other First Staters.
Posted by: kallisto at February 01, 2017 09:47 AM (nNdYv)

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Gonna be honest, I really would expect more even headed representatives from safe states. They don't really need to worry about re-election, and they could just concentrate on governance.

Reality begs to differ, however. It's just how I would operate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 09:50 AM (ThL6N)

111 They haven't come back. Felt sorry for the little girls but, some things just need to be addressed. I may burn in hell for that one.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 01, 2017 09:48 AM (KP5rU)


I think you did the Lord's work by putting the adult in the position of having to abortsplain to the female children.

"Well honey, that nice man was just objecting to the fact that marxist agenda forces women to wage war against the children we nurture in our bodies. Oh, Look! We're all out of s'mores!"

Posted by: kallisto at February 01, 2017 09:50 AM (nNdYv)

112 104; If not me, who? Somebody has to give them a voice.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 01, 2017 09:51 AM (KP5rU)

113 Quick, Somebody Post It:

"Art of Manliness" how-to on girding your loins.

Wiseguy biblical scholars, the kind who insist it's all true if you read between the lines and apply enough allegory (and whose side I'm often on), insist the noise-making parade was to mask the sound of Joshua's sappers undermining Jericho's estimable walls, which tumbled when they sparked the punk.

It's certainly a plausible story if you read it that way, but it spoils the miracle.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 01, 2017 09:51 AM (H5rtT)

114 Two years ago, Girl Souts came to my door selling cookies. I looked directly into the adult with them and told her, when you quit supporting the killing of babies, maybe then we can discuss business

I just go with a polite no thank you. They set up right in front of the gym where I work out. All kinds of wrong that is.

Posted by: no good deed at February 01, 2017 09:51 AM (hJamr)

115 Looks like one guy has 12th century armor and one guy has a Napoleonic hat on.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 09:49 AM (W2Fol)

looks like armor ranges anywhere from modern Macedonian to pre-30 year War Traditional

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 09:51 AM (c6/9Q)

116 Trump's use of "bigly" is an example of Newspeak.

======

He may have had a small point were it not for the fact that Trump is saying "big league".

Posted by: Flyboy at February 01, 2017 09:51 AM (R3Jti)

117 105

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Hot coffee through the nasal cavity hurts.

Posted by: auscolpyr at February 01, 2017 09:51 AM (suO/a)

118 When I blow vuvuzela, his wall, she come tumbling down.

Posted by: ¡Jeb! at February 01, 2017 09:51 AM (nIGPZ)

119 Was this a battle to determine who would gain access to the world's only supply of shoes?

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 09:52 AM (1H9ox)

120 Posted by: Jim at February 01, 2017 09:38 AM (v5iqM)

EK emailed you about the voice-over project and is concerned the message may have gotten caught in your spam filter. She's going to try again if you don't mind keeping an eye out for it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 01, 2017 09:52 AM (sEDyY)

121 This may be why Sen. Chris Coons of DE has voiced
opposition to donk leadership obstruction tactics. He knows it's not
playing well with the peeps.



It's funny, for a deep blue state, DE doesn't seem to be that
unhinged. I don't know if Blue Hen is still lurking out there, but I'd
like to hear his perspective and that of other First Staters.

Posted by: kallisto at February 01, 2017 09:47 AM (nNdYv)

more likely, he's playing good cop, sanctioned by his leadership.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl...26 days until spring training at February 01, 2017 09:52 AM (0O7c5)

122 It's my party

And I'll cry if I want to

Cry if I want to

Cry if I want to

You would cry too

If filthy-ass Rethuglicans buttfucked you

Posted by: Chuck Schumer and the Schoomelles at February 01, 2017 09:52 AM (97XyN)

123 >>Said, "You go now, THIS LIBRARY!"

He's now our official spokesman.

Posted by: Sparta Libray at February 01, 2017 09:52 AM (gTQoY)

124 114; I tried being polite. How did that work out? Fuck em. War.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 01, 2017 09:53 AM (KP5rU)

125 When I blow vuvuzela, his wall, she come tumbling down.
,,,
I love it when you talk dirty.

Posted by: Vuvu Zela at February 01, 2017 09:53 AM (1H9ox)

126 Hey! I was just talking about this last night! CBD must have overheard. Let's get the band back together and march around Schumer's house 7 times. That oughta do it. Gotta run - BBL

Posted by: grammie winger at February 01, 2017 09:53 AM (dFi94)

127 @107 - that one's a joke, right?

Because Snagglepuss - a pink lion - totally was like a gay Southern gothic playwright.

Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 09:53 AM (tewYv)

128 >>I think you did the Lord's work by putting the adult in the position of having to abortsplain to the female children.


Heck, it's not just abortion. PP has materials and videos to "educate" kis/teens on sex and it's just as depraved as you can imagine. Gotta get those kids humping early, often and w/lots of partners to be sure they PP's services for STDs, BC, and abortion.Sick.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 09:54 AM (NOIQH)

129 118 When I blow vuvuzela, his wall, she come tumbling down.
Posted by: ¡Jeb! at February 01, 2017 09:51 AM (nIGPZ)

Well as long as he consents and you let him get the yard work done.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at February 01, 2017 09:54 AM (a3sfz)

130 Several of the fellas aren't wearing shoes, and the guy on the right isn't wearing a shirt.

I'm afraid they'll catch a cold.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 09:54 AM (TOk1P)

131 >>Fuck "if." Suspend the rule and push forward anyway.


Too late. Done.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 09:54 AM (/tuJf)

132 EK emailed you about the voice-over project and is concerned the message may have gotten caught in your spam filter.

I know this wasn't addressed to me, but sometimes I think that's what I'd like to get into and away from this job.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 01, 2017 09:54 AM (X6fMO)

133 Soros' asshole has got to be sore this morning. Trump just shut down the DemocratNonProfitTaxScam Complex.
---

I said this with O, and I'll say it with Trump.

Don't watch what the media is focusing on. See what else he's doing.

THIS may have way more impact down the road than any of the short term immigration actions.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 09:54 AM (J5mC3)

134 Ahhhh. Coffee. Finally.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 09:55 AM (VuJJJ)

135 132 I know this wasn't addressed to me, but sometimes I think that's what I'd like to get into and away from this job.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 01, 2017 09:54 AM (X6fMO)

=====================

Getting caught in spam filters?

Whatever floats your boat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 09:55 AM (ThL6N)

136 Was this a battle to determine who would gain access to the world's only supply of shoes?

The philosophers were saying that they'd reached Peak Shoe due to global warming.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 09:55 AM (u0s1P)

137 About Amazon, I'm sorry I can't completely boycott it but for indy writers it is practically a monopoly.

They can't not publish there if they want to get readers. And I think getting more rightwing fiction read is more important than punishing Bezos.

The culture war is being fought in Leftist territory. I think that's partly why Trump uses Twitter and FB despite them being enemy orgs.


(But I really need to setup an alternate site for non-amazon stuff I can talk about. Maybe pets?)

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 09:55 AM (Om16U)

138 Why are there no women in this picture?

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 09:56 AM (1H9ox)

139 Why are three guys trying to shoot another guy in the ass?

I'm not getting the strategery here.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 09:35 AM (97XyN)


There is such a thing as too much concentration of one's forces.

Maybe the guy owes them money and they want him double dead.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 09:56 AM (TOk1P)

140 Ya know, it's really hard to put feeling into singing "February made me shiver" when you're wearing shorts and flip flops.

#first world Southern problems

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 01, 2017 09:56 AM (gTQoY)

141 Heck, it's not just abortion. PP has materials and videos to "educate" kis/teens on sex and it's just as depraved as you can imagine. Gotta get those kids humping early, often and w/lots of partners to be sure they PP's services for STDs, BC, and abortion.Sick.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 09:54 AM (NOIQH)

Ayup. Can't kill babies if they don't get the kids to make babies.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 09:57 AM (VuJJJ)

142 bluebell it does seem crazily up close and personal. i hope their aim was true . lol

Posted by: willow at February 01, 2017 09:57 AM (R7cwD)

143 Amazon boycott is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 01, 2017 09:57 AM (Pxqnw)

144 117 105

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Hot coffee through the nasal cavity hurts.
Posted by: auscolpyr at February 01, 2017 09:51 AM (suO/a)

Yeah, the Horde has helped me cleanse my nasal passages with all manner of fluids. Part of the AoSHQ experience.

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable MMA Afficianado at February 01, 2017 09:57 AM (RD7QR)

145 Cruz is becoming PT best friend in the Senate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 09:58 AM (SjImc)

146 Don't watch what the media is focusing on. See what else he's doing.


Where else are Trump-haters and NeverTrumpers going to get their talking points and fuel their feelz?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 09:58 AM (VuJJJ)

147 145 Cruz is becoming PT best friend in the Senate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 09:58 AM (SjImc)

I'm glad. I like Cruz a lot.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 09:59 AM (Om16U)

148 Yeah, the Horde has helped me cleanse my nasal passages with all manner of fluids. Part of the AoSHQ experience.


Heh heh. Heh heh heh. Heh.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 09:59 AM (VuJJJ)

149 >>i hope their aim was true

Mine is.

Posted by: Elivis Costello at February 01, 2017 09:59 AM (/tuJf)

150 Yeah, the Horde has helped me cleanse my nasal passages with all manner of fluids. Part of the AoSHQ experience.

Put some Wassabe in your coffee, it works wonders

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM (SjImc)

151 Oh, and I'm certain ancient battles, even if they started out planned and orderly, degenerated quickly. Noise, confusion, yelling orders, dust, dirt, mud-- meanwhile there's at least one guy trying to stab you, so you're probably not thinking about the best way to achieve any objective other than "not die."

Oh, and depending on the battle, you don't want to be there, the guys stabbing you don't want to be there, and you wish you were safely in a meeting or something.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM (u0s1P)

152 >>Cruz is becoming PT best friend in the Senate


Good! I like Cruz despite his RNC stunt. Another fighter!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM (NOIQH)

153 I am very fond of the panoramic scenes because there is so much interesting stuff going on -- I could look at them for hours.

However, I like VeggieTales Josh and the Big Wall the best.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM (MIKMs)

154 Was this a battle to determine who would gain access to the world's only supply of shoes?

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 09:52 AM (1H9ox)


I think this may be the most fundamental difference between modern and ancient warfare.

Not weapons, not gunpowder, not communications, not vehicles, on the ground and in the air.

It's shoes. Good, solid, fightin' men's footwear.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM (TOk1P)

155
Joe, what I would do is definitely use the card. Buy something from the store so they don't get to keep the card buyer's money...then go back and return the item for cash. That way, Target or wherever doesn't get to keep anything from it.

Some stores give you another gift card instead of cash for returns.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM (IqV8l)

156 133 Soros' asshole has got to be sore this morning. Trump just shut down the DemocratNonProfitTaxScam Complex.
---

I said this with O, and I'll say it with Trump.

Don't watch what the media is focusing on. See what else he's doing.

THIS may have way more impact down the road than any of the short term immigration actions.
Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 09:54 AM (J5mC3)

The thing about Soros is that he happily combines business and lefty activism. He's smart enough to use the anarchist tactics to mask whatever business he's into. I'm betting that if you graph upticks in protesting against upticks in Soros-sponsored moneymaking the two will overlap heavily.

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable MMA Afficianado at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM (RD7QR)

157 Any thoughts on (or experience with) Walmart-owned Jet.com as an alternative to Amazon?

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at February 01, 2017 10:01 AM (hYNPr)

158 Ha, I like North Dakota for wanting to collect income taxes from the paid protesters at the Dakota Access pipeline. I think this is the first time I am pro-tax. http://tinyurl.com/zq9rdqx

Posted by: no good deed at February 01, 2017 10:01 AM (hJamr)

159 Why are three guys trying to shoot another guy in the ass?





Folsom Street Faire?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 10:01 AM (W2Fol)

160 I just can't boycott Amazon. It makes my life so much easier. I will look around at other sites to see if I have options that can replace Amazon, Walmart and Ebay being two of them. But full on boycott ain't gonna happen with me.



Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:01 AM (Enq6K)

161 I posted this in JJ's thread, but this is more Daywalker territory:

I think the Left is making a serious strategic error on Trump.

Trump is the Republican that they claimed to want. He is not ideological. Willing to tax rich people. Okay with spending money, mostly non-interventionist, not a social conservative, gay-friendly, etc. (I say all that and I am a supporter!)

And they have amped everything up way past 11. Trump does not have to have a learning curve about who the Left is. He gets people that are shitty to him right away, and always pushes back harder. He wrote it in a book! So these Lefties are guaranteeing that he will do the things they most don't want. They have pushed Trump into more conservative positions than I think he would ordinarily hold.

Keep fucking that chicken Lefties. Trump isn't in politics with you, you are in politics with him.

Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 10:01 AM (tewYv)

162 I think this may be the most fundamental difference between modern and ancient warfare.

Not weapons, not gunpowder, not communications, not vehicles, on the ground and in the air.

It's shoes. Good, solid, fightin' men's footwear.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM (TOk1P)


Damn, I wrote a poem and didn't even know it.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:01 AM (TOk1P)

163 145 Cruz is becoming PT best friend in the Senate
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 09:58 AM (SjImc)


Finally realizing that teh Donald is doing what he could only dream of and never get away with.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:01 AM (Pd7Sl)

164 Any thoughts on (or experience with) Walmart-owned Jet.com as an alternative to Amazon?

It's racist?

Posted by: Whitey Bulger at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (u0s1P)

165 Hatch changed the rules of the finance committee this morning, eliminating the need for at least 1 person from the minority to be present. They approved both Mnuchin and Price.

Repub's are finally getting it: The Dem's are playing for keeps and they need to respond accordingly.

Posted by: WisRich at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (hdpay)

166
The Battle Of Jericho
Julius Schnorr von Carolsfeld
This is from the Book of Joshua, and seems to be fine advice for President Trump's nominees, in particular Judge Gorsuch.

Thank you for such inspiration! I just looked up this artist and Britannica says he was of the Nazarene Movement: "The Nazarenes believed that all art should serve a moral or religious purpose."

Morality & Religion- two compasses the left has abandoned.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (oQQwD)

167 I've always been curious how, in these old timey battles, were people able to distinguish friend from foe? Once you're in the middle of that maelstrom of non-uniformed combatants I would think you would basically be attempting to hack your way through anyone that wasn't your best friend.

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (1H9ox)

168 Man, bards are almost useless.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 09:36 AM


Never pick a fight with someone who buys songs by the score.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (DMUuz)

169 they say we're young and we dunno
We won't find out until we grow
well I dunno if all that's true
cause you.got me.and baby I got youuu

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (IbBNa)

170 Kris @40, re: the book of Daniel---you beat me to it.

Posted by: CCO at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (WaZ4D)

171 161
Keep fucking that chicken Lefties. Trump isn't in politics with you, you are in politics with him.
Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 10:01 AM (tewYv)

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I agree.

We could very well be looking at a near (if not complete) super-majority in the Senate because they're playing their bad hand so poorly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:03 AM (ThL6N)

172 What did Trump do to Soros?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 01, 2017 10:03 AM (4ErVI)

173 fighting mens thought bubbles.
i would kill thousands of men for some nice cotton socks and a decent pair of boots.

Posted by: willow at February 01, 2017 10:03 AM (R7cwD)

174 I just looked up this artist and Britannica says he was of the Nazarene Movement: "The Nazarenes believed that all art should serve a moral or religious purpose."

They sound like a lot of fun at parties they never get invited to.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:03 AM (u0s1P)

175 Why is that horse laughing?!? Sick bastard!

Posted by: Dang at February 01, 2017 10:03 AM (8b+oT)

176 I must have missed a memo. What's the "this is library" thing about?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:03 AM (VuJJJ)

177 The philosophers were saying that they'd reached Peak Shoe due to global warming.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 09:55 AM (u0s1P)


You do realize that once we reach peak shoe, instead of the shoe deflationary period, we run the risk of flipping over into the Shoe Event Horizon, where the only type of store economically viable to build is a shoe shop. At this point, society ceases to function, and the economy collapses, sending a world spiralling into ruin.
Then we all forsake shoes and walking forever and mutate into a bunch of giant, evil smelling birds.

Caw.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 01, 2017 10:03 AM (6f7eA)

178 165
Hatch changed the rules of the finance committee this morning,
eliminating the need for at least 1 person from the minority to be
present. They approved both Mnuchin and Price.



Repub's are finally getting it: The Dem's are playing for keeps and they need to respond accordingly.





Posted by: WisRich at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (hdpay)

Still think they should have done a quorum call and force the dems to show up

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 01, 2017 10:04 AM (jxbfJ)

179 I think this may be the most fundamental difference between modern and ancient warfare.

Not weapons, not gunpowder, not communications, not vehicles, on the ground and in the air.

It's shoes. Good, solid, fightin' men's footwear.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM


I approve of this message.

Posted by: Nike at February 01, 2017 10:04 AM (DMUuz)

180 176
I must have missed a memo. What's the "this is library" thing about?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:03 AM (VuJJJ)




http://tinyurl.com/j8gdpeo

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:04 AM (Enq6K)

181 but what about Sessions ???

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 10:05 AM (c6/9Q)

182 I just can't boycott Amazon. It makes my life so much easier. I will look around at other sites to see if I have options that can replace Amazon, Walmart and Ebay being two of them. But full on boycott ain't gonna happen with me.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:01 AM (Enq6K)


I'm willing to work on it, but Amazon is what has kept me from walking into Target. It's going to take time to extricate myself from this, and frankly, I guess I'm dreading having to work up learning to use another digital video source.

I know, I know, there are bunches of them, but I get tired of the learning curve on using entertainment.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:05 AM (TOk1P)

183 >>Hatch changed the rules of the finance committee this morning,
eliminating the need for at least 1 person from the minority to be
present. They approved both Mnuchin and Price.



SO GOOD!
About time they started playing by the Left's rules.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 10:05 AM (NOIQH)

184 I must have missed a memo. What's the "this is library" thing about?

You missed one of the Great Memes.

You do realize that once we reach peak shoe, instead of the shoe deflationary period, we run the risk of flipping over into the Shoe Event Horizon, where the only type of store economically viable to build is a shoe shop.

Pfff. That's basic economics. Not even 101. Remedial.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:05 AM (u0s1P)

185 Violence never solved anything. I think I saw that on a Prius somewhere.

Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 09:35 AM (7HtZB)


"I'd beg to differ, but I got something in my throat."

Posted by: Goliath of Gath at February 01, 2017 10:05 AM (hLRSq)

186 Posted by: Jim at February 01, 2017 09:38 AM (v5iqM)

EK emailed you about the voice-over project and is concerned the message may have gotten caught in your spam filter. She's going to try again if you don't mind keeping an eye out for it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 01, 2017 09:52 AM (sEDyY)



Very likely, as my spam spam spam spam spam! filter, has been overworked of late, fending off all manner of foul and evil dreck, malware and phishing attacks, etc.

Try this, in that YOUR addy is whitelisted, send me her mail as a "fwd" from your mailer, and I'll then extract her address and add it to the "good guy" list, too.

And apologies for having missed her efforts to get in touch. I'd still be pleased to help, of course!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 01, 2017 10:05 AM (v5iqM)

187 It is certainly possible that famous cartoon characters were thinly-veiled representations of prominent gay personalities.

It is just as likely that prominent gay personalities deliberately model themselves after Hanna-Barbera prototypes. Fine line of difference.

I would sure like to see Brett Favre star in "Cat on A Hot Tin Roof."
Bet he could do that un-ironically. Newman couldn't.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 01, 2017 10:05 AM (H5rtT)

188 167 I've always been curious how, in these old timey battles, were people able to distinguish friend from foe? Once you're in the middle of that maelstrom of non-uniformed combatants I would think you would basically be attempting to hack your way through anyone that wasn't your best friend.
Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (1H9ox)


"Friendly Hacking" was probably a frequent occurrence.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:05 AM (Pd7Sl)

189 I guess if i sent a book to President Trump, there is no way it would ever actually reach him. correct? As I was sleeping last night (in the time I actually WAS sleeping) it came to me that"Life Secrets" by Henry Foster would be an excellent choice since it contains so many nuggets about dealing with difficulties, keeping focused on prayer and looking towards Jesus Christ what we do, that it would be inspiring for him, but he probably gets lots of things from people and the SS or somebody has to search through all this stuff.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 10:05 AM (fDdVG)

190 "172 What did Trump do to Soros?"

The answer is best left to the ONT.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 10:06 AM (97XyN)

191 >>I must have missed a memo. What's the "this is library" thing about?

Hey Hey Hey! You watch now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHhy2Gk_xik

Posted by: Elivis Costello at February 01, 2017 10:06 AM (/tuJf)

192 Yeah, a lot of these painters aren't big on the whole "historical accuracy" thing. Though that's part of a larger trend, I think. IIRC in Shakespeare's time, the actors wore then-contemporary attire, not the garb of the setting.

In addition to men playing women and all that.

(To be fair, even Hollywood tries and fails to get historical details like that right, and research is easier now.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 09:48 AM (u0s1P)

Well, you gotta wonder if they even knew what people in ancient Israel wore. It's not like they could go on the Internet or to the library and look up pictures. It was hard to even come by books in those days. The Bible itself doesn't give you a lot of clues. And people didn't travel as much. We forget how much information we have right at our fingertips.

So it's possible some of these artists thought, I really don't know how they dressed, I don't want to guess and come up with something ridiculous, so I'll dress them like the way people dress now.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 10:06 AM (ZM2xo)

193 180 176
I must have missed a memo. What's the "this is library" thing about?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:03 AM (VuJJJ)




http://tinyurl.com/j8gdpeo
Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:04 AM (Enq6K)

I see now. What's the context?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:06 AM (VuJJJ)

194 165 Hatch changed the rules of the finance committee this morning, eliminating the need for at least 1 person from the minority to be present. They approved both Mnuchin and Price.

Repub's are finally getting it: The Dem's are playing for keeps and they need to respond accordingly.

Posted by: WisRich at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (hdpay)

================

I feel like the Republicans had to give the Democrats a chance to play fair.

If McConnell had gone nuclear (not necessarily in terms of the filibuster, just in terms of general tactics), the Democrats would have been more effectively able to frame Republicans as running over norms without precedent.

Now that we've seen their reaction to Gorsuch, and Trump is behind every president over the last 40 years in terms of getting cabinet appointees approved, the Democratic messaging is much much less effective.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:06 AM (ThL6N)

195 Yeah, the Horde has helped me cleanse my nasal passages with all manner of fluids. Part of the AoSHQ experience.

Put some Wassabe in your coffee, it works wonders



Dry it. Cut it. Snort lines.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 10:06 AM (W2Fol)

196 " Is that guy in the middle holding a big rock and about to smash it on someone's head? Ugh. Arrows and rocks. I don't know how they did it."

Read about the Battle of Franklin

Posted by: Joe at February 01, 2017 10:06 AM (fYFzF)

197 let men hang out together and this is what they do.

here, hold my wine

Posted by: willow at February 01, 2017 10:07 AM (R7cwD)

198 99 Looks like one guy has 12th century armor and one guy has a Napoleonic hat on.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 09:49 AM (W2Fol)

More evidence of Time Travelers.

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at February 01, 2017 10:07 AM (O6j88)

199 I hate to be one of those people...


The story of Daniel and the Lions' Den is in the Book of Daniel.

Posted by: Kris at February 01, 2017 09:39 AM (nwqNw)

Nah....correcting a cob is a time-honored tradition around here.

Thanks.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 01, 2017 10:07 AM (rF0hx)

200 174 I just looked up this artist and Britannica says he was of the Nazarene Movement: "The Nazarenes believed that all art should serve a moral or religious purpose."

They sound like a lot of fun at parties they never get invited to.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:03 AM (u0s1P)

================

Good. They should be producing art, not mingling.

I wish all artists would do this. Especially in Hollywood.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:07 AM (ThL6N)

201 It's shoes. Good, solid, fightin' men's footwear.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM



I approve of this message.

Posted by: Nike at February 01, 2017 10:04 AM (DMUuz)>>>
You make Running shoes. We make Fighting Boots.

Posted by: Redwing Boots at February 01, 2017 10:07 AM (XtAzU)

202 >>However, I like VeggieTales Josh and the Big Wall the best.

Lulz.

Someone needs to photoshop that cover with a pic of Pres. Trump. Or just the hair...

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 01, 2017 10:07 AM (gTQoY)

203 Gonna be honest, I really would expect more even headed representatives from safe states. They don't really need to worry about re-election, and they could just concentrate on governance.

Reality begs to differ, however. It's just how I would operate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 09:50 AM (ThL6N)
-------

That assumes that a Senator is concerned with governance over political considerations. This guy might be one of those, but they seem to be relatively rare.

It's like, the META-job of a Senator is to toe the party line and win elections. The ACTUAL job of Senator seems to generally not even be considered by pundits and, increasingly, Senators themselves. If that makes any sense. It is a weird concept to put into words in a short form.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:07 AM (xeeHA)

204 So when/if the Left starts losing all the procedural / adminstrative / lawfare battles based on rules and law.

Do they turn to burning the place down ?

A sorta 'Make it Burn' philosophy ?

Posted by: McCool at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (nCSwS)

205 Keep fucking that chicken Lefties. Trump isn't in politics with you, you are in politics with him.
Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 10:01 AM (tewYv)


BAM!!

Posted by: Emeril Lagasse at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (Pd7Sl)

206 I'm willing to work on it, but Amazon is what has kept me from walking into Target. It's going to take time to extricate myself from this, and frankly, I guess I'm dreading having to work up learning to use another digital video source.

I know, I know, there are bunches of them, but I get tired of the learning curve on using entertainment.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:05 AM (TOk1P)

Amazon's streaming service impressed me the least of the big providers. Except for "Bosch" nothing else appealed to me. Their movie selection was almost the same as Hulu's.

Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (7HtZB)

207 I just can't boycott Amazon. It makes my life so much easier. I will look around at other sites to see if I have options that can replace Amazon, Walmart and Ebay being two of them. But full on boycott ain't gonna happen with me.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:01 AM (Enq6K)


I'm willing to work on it, but Amazon is what has kept me from walking into Target. It's going to take time to extricate myself from this, and frankly, I guess I'm dreading having to work up learning to use another digital video source.

I know, I know, there are bunches of them, but I get tired of the learning curve on using entertainment.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:05 AM (TOk1P)

Amazon is so persuasive thru out almost all consumer industries that it is almost impossible to boycott them unfortunetaly..and They save you a small fortune. I wish there was a Conservative Alternative, but there isn't. And they are now about to put Fedex and UPS out of business. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (SjImc)

208 Read something interesting today, won't let me cut and paste it.

Basically, democrats are now protesting in the name of corporations and on behalf of globalists. They are Soros' tools.

They are protesting FOR the things they used to protest against.



Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (J5mC3)

209 Good! I like Cruz despite his RNC stunt. Another fighter!
=====

Where were the other primary opponents? Washing their hair?

I don't see Cruz at the convention as a 'stunt' at all. He ran a good fight and had to appear and thank supporters and the RNC. My own opinion is that he walked that tightrope very well.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (MIKMs)

210 I've always been curious how, in these old timey battles, were people able to distinguish friend from foe? Once you're in the middle of that maelstrom of non-uniformed combatants I would think you would basically be attempting to hack your way through anyone that wasn't your best friend.

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (1H9ox)


That's probably true. Best left on the battlefield, unexamined.

If you commanded such a force, and you were not in the middle of the hell yourself, you probably counted on not much more than superior numbers to win the day. Unless you have horsed forces waiting to clean up, and then again, your horsemen aren't doing a lot of looking at uniform markings.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (TOk1P)

211 I see now. What's the context?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:06 AM (VuJJJ)

Anti-Trump protesters at U of Wash protesting in the library.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (Enq6K)

212 167 I've always been curious how, in these old timey battles, were people able to distinguish friend from foe? Once you're in the middle of that maelstrom of non-uniformed combatants I would think you would basically be attempting to hack your way through anyone that wasn't your best friend.
Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (1H9ox)

==================

You can see a very minor form of this confusion in the opening battle of Gladiator.

Russell Crowe is about to cut someone down and only stops when he recognizes the man personally. It's hard to slow down in chaos, even when the two sides are wearing very different clothes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (ThL6N)

213 Great piece of art. Would love a print to hang in the house.

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (O6j88)

214
Chuckie Schemer issued a statement on Gorsuch saying in effect he's always sided with corporations and has been against women's rights. They really ought to change their scripts once in a while

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (493sH)

215 I think this may be the most fundamental difference between modern and ancient warfare.

Not weapons, not gunpowder, not communications, not vehicles, on the ground and in the air.

It's shoes. Good, solid, fightin' men's footwear.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM

I approve of this message.
Posted by: Nike




Just do it.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (W2Fol)

216 I would sure like to see Brett Favre star in "Cat on A Hot Tin Roof."

Favre could barely get though the few lines he had in "There's Something About Mary." He was ridiculously bad.

So starring role- no.

He can manage commercials although I'm really not crazy about seeing my one-time favorite QB clip his nose hairs.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (ZM2xo)

217

Im optimistic. We got the momentum. I feel good

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (0D4kT)

218 Hatch changed the rules of the finance committee this morning, eliminating the need for at least 1 person from the minority to be present. They approved both Mnuchin and Price.
,,,
CNN headline that just peeled across my feed..."Republicans take extraordinary steps to move forward with two of T's cabinet nominees"

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (1H9ox)

219 I find von Carolsfeld's subjects to be rather stiff, which detracts from his technical talent for color and placement. This painting is busy, almost hectic, and has splashes of color (nicely done) but I don't see a real focal point. It's not a bad painting but not an especially good one to my eye.

I found a von Carolsfeld "Wedding at Cana" painting. Compared to the overwhelming life and brilliance of the Veronese version we looked at some months ago, the von Carolsfeld version is subdued and lacks vitality.

I can't help thinking: what if Frank Frazetta had painted this scene? Some possibilities come to mind right off.

Posted by: JTB at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (V+03K)

220 "Joshua fit the battle of Jericho, Jericho Jericho.
Joshua fit the battle of Jericho.
And the walls came tumbling down!
Hallelujah!"

Mmmm
Hmmm

https://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=gPZuWzZvoYQ

remove space in "watch"



Posted by: Publius Redux at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (Fb9aZ)

221 >>They are protesting FOR the things they used to protest against.

Sort of like being against Russia after decades of trying to coddle them.

The poles have switched.

Posted by: Elivis Costello at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (/tuJf)

222 160 I just can't boycott Amazon. It makes my life so much easier. I will look around at other sites to see if I have options that can replace Amazon, Walmart and Ebay being two of them. But full on boycott ain't gonna happen with me.

I sent a strongly worded email to them yesterday stating exactly why I was boycotting and that they themselves choose that course of action and they themselves were responsible for it. That being said, if I fall off the wagon once in a while no one will be the wiser. Actually from having ordered on Amazon I've discovered a world of small businesses that I can order things from direct, and most have free shipping. I'll be doing that as much as I can.

Posted by: moon over vermont at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (kUmUV)

223 Chuckie Schemer issued a statement on Gorsuch saying in effect he's always sided with corporations and has been against women's rights. They really ought to change their scripts once in a while
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (493sH)

Well you know what they say: Small minds, small peckers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (SjImc)

224
So have all of the paid protestors left the airports and are now camped out in front of courts to protest Gorsuch?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 01, 2017 10:10 AM (493sH)

225 So the Dems pulled the Wisconsin Gambit and just didn't show up?

So no one asked how that worked out in Wisconsin?

Genius political moves there.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 01, 2017 10:10 AM (4ErVI)

226 So it's possible some of these artists thought, I really don't know how they dressed, I don't want to guess and come up with something ridiculous, so I'll dress them like the way people dress now.

Yeah, that's my thinking. Also the relatability issue (which was mentioned upthread).

Religious art especially has lots of symbolism and hidden-ish meanings, so I'm sure costuming plays into that.

One thing-- maybe the only thing-- that stuck with me from "Sunday School" (CCD, on Wednesdays, IIRC) was that ancient writers (especially Biblical and that era) weren't as concerned about what *actually* happened as the meaning of the events. Even the Greek and Roman historians had political points to score, so they're not as reliable as we'd like.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:10 AM (u0s1P)

227 "I'd beg to differ, but I got something in my throat."
Posted by: Goliath of Gath at February 01, 2017 10:05 AM (hLRSq)


You know, this is the only smart military blog that has mentioned Gath more that three times in a year.

TRY BEATING THAT MALKIN!

Posted by: Kindltot at February 01, 2017 10:10 AM (6f7eA)

228 Amazon's streaming service impressed me the least of
the big providers.

Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (7HtZB)

And their FireStick sucks donkey balls compared to Roku.

I have both, and I just replaced the FireStick with a new Roku, which is so much faster and has a better interface that it is amazing they are considered the same category of hardware.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 01, 2017 10:10 AM (rF0hx)

229 RE: Amazon, I've found that a lot of the things you can get there are also on Ebay. Just do Buy It Now with free shipping.

They don't havae100% of what I want, but I've moved away from Amazon quite a bit. But.. I'm not a big Amazon buyer in the first place.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 10:10 AM (J5mC3)

230 203 That assumes that a Senator is concerned with governance over political considerations. This guy might be one of those, but they seem to be relatively rare.

It's like, the META-job of a Senator is to toe the party line and win elections. The ACTUAL job of Senator seems to generally not even be considered by pundits and, increasingly, Senators themselves. If that makes any sense. It is a weird concept to put into words in a short form.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:07 AM (xeeHA)

=================

I get it. I'm assuming that most senators hold onto the idea that they'll be president one day, and they're always trying to position themselves like that.

Even Henry Clay never became president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:10 AM (ELE3W)

231 208 Read something interesting today, won't let me cut and paste it.

Basically, democrats are now protesting in the name of corporations and on behalf of globalists. They are Soros' tools.

They are protesting FOR the things they used to protest against.



Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (J5mC3)

They used to be against The Man, now they ARE The Man.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:11 AM (VuJJJ)

232 I feel like the Republicans had to give the Democrats a chance to play fair.

If McConnell had gone nuclear (not necessarily in terms of the filibuster, just in terms of general tactics), the Democrats would have been more effectively able to frame Republicans as running over norms without precedent.

Now that we've seen their reaction to Gorsuch, and Trump is behind every president over the last 40 years in terms of getting cabinet appointees approved, the Democratic messaging is much much less effective.


Agreed. Give them the rope ... etc. etc.....

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:11 AM (Pd7Sl)

233 So maybe nationally Republicans have figured out what WI Republicans knew back in 2010 with the Act 10 legislation.

The left cannot be bargained with or worked with in any meaningful or constructive way...they despise our side and will do whatever they have to to fight solid progress on our side.

Like WI the national GOP has the votes and have the means to push through these appointments...the WI Gop did it and they were rewarded by the voters. Its time for the national GOP to do the same.

Voters respect prinicpled leaders, but they also want fighters.

Keep it up GOP.

Posted by: H Badger at February 01, 2017 10:11 AM (n/0Nw)

234 201 It's shoes. Good, solid, fightin' men's footwear.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM

Gettysburg began as a search for shoes, if I am not mistaken.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at February 01, 2017 10:11 AM (rIvb0)

235 I feel like the Republicans had to give the Democrats a chance to play fair.

Gave 'em just enough rope to hang themselves.

Metaphorically.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:11 AM (u0s1P)

236 Damn, I wrote a poem and didn't even know it.


Posted by: BurtTC

I think this may be the most fundamental difference between modern and ancient warfare.

Not weapons, not gunpowder, not communications, not vehicles, on the ground and in the air.

But when it comes to a sociopolitical discussion of ancient war as it relates to today's news

One must ask if it iw more important for the soldiers to be well-armed or have shoes.



It's shoes. Good, solid, fightin' men's footwear.



*****

There, now it's a limerick.



Posted by: Muldoon at February 01, 2017 10:11 AM (wPiJc)

237 And you know it was bad if freaking Orin Hatch took action. That squish doesn't take a dump without checking which way the wind is blowing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 01, 2017 10:12 AM (4ErVI)

238 >>>>167 I've always been curious how, in these old timey battles, were
people able to distinguish friend from foe? Once you're in the middle of
that maelstrom of non-uniformed combatants I would think you would
basically be attempting to hack your way through anyone that wasn't your
best friend.

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (1H9ox)



"Friendly Hacking" was probably a frequent occurrence.
.
.
.Friendly hacking was quite a common occurrence. There were some subtle measures that might make a difference on the battlefield. Things such as a simple colored armband that one side wore. Some tribes shaved clean like Romans so they would be easy to tell friend from foe there.

But generally you just kept hacking and stabbing at the guy coming from the other direction who was hacking and stabbing at you.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 01, 2017 10:12 AM (le7jz)

239 It's shoes. Good, solid, fightin' men's footwear.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM



I approve of this message.

Posted by: Nike at February 01, 2017 10:04 AM (DMUuz)>>>
You make Running shoes. We make Fighting Boots.
Posted by: Redwing Boots at February 01, 2017 10:07 AM (XtAzU)


Yeah, I was gonna say, take a look at the pitcher up there on the top of this post. Air Jordans are NOT going to be of much use there.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:12 AM (TOk1P)

240
Trump is meeting with black leaders to kick off the start of black history month. No sign of Jesse Jackass or Al Sharpton. Resist we much!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 01, 2017 10:12 AM (493sH)

241 They used to be against The Man, now they ARE The Man.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:11 AM (VuJJJ)


Funny that, eh?

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:12 AM (Pd7Sl)

242 Anti-Trump protesters at U of Wash protesting in the library.
Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (Enq6K)

Of course.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:12 AM (VuJJJ)

243 "I've always been curious how, in these old timey battles, were people able to distinguish friend from foe?"

Strange, foreign colognes and hair care products.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 10:12 AM (97XyN)

244 232 Agreed. Give them the rope ... etc. etc.....
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:11 AM (Pd7Sl)

================

I should have thought of that analogy...

But yeah. They're hanging themselves.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (ThL6N)

245 All these Black people with the President will be called Uncle Tom's by the Left is 3, 2,1...

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (SjImc)

246 That's probably true. Best left on the battlefield, unexamined.

If you commanded such a force, and you were not in the middle of the hell yourself, you probably counted on not much more than superior numbers to win the day. Unless you have horsed forces waiting to clean up, and then again, your horsemen aren't doing a lot of looking at uniform markings.
,,,
Basically, both sides tell their troops to either move in a direction toward a goal or to defend a position. Anyone going in the opposite direction of you (or toward the position you are defending), is fair game.
So you're ultimate goal as a foot soldier is to not go the wrong direction.

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (1H9ox)

247 it was predictable they would hold up the constitution again,' that old rag, at least a hundred years old' as some dumb guy once said.

old things are new again! if they had to toss hypocrisy out they'd have nothing left.

Posted by: willow at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (R7cwD)

248 The idea that "violence doesn't solve anything" is almost as stupid as the idea that it takes "a village to raise a child."

Violence, when you think about it, can solve essentially ANY problem. It just tends to create a lot of new problems when used. It is often a solution, just almost always not the BEST solution.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (xeeHA)

249 Posted by: JTB at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (V+03K)

Agreed.

I certainly didn't choose this work on its artistic merits, but rather to illustrate the quotation.

Yes...politics creeps into everything...even the Art Thread!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (rF0hx)

250 Amazon's streaming service impressed me the least of the big providers. Except for "Bosch" nothing else appealed to me. Their movie selection was almost the same as Hulu's.
Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (7HtZB)


They do have the HBO stuff, though, like Band of Brothers. That said, their streaming app is a bag of smashed ass. If I run it on my Macbook, the menu bar disappears until I restart, and on the blu-ray player, sometimes it doesn't pause, or will pause but not restart.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (8nWyX)

251 news @ drudge: peepholes found in interstate rest area mens' bathrooms

1. those aren't peepholes
2. where's Bill Wynn?

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (IbBNa)

252 Yeah, I was gonna say, take a look at the pitcher up there on the top of this post. Air Jordans are NOT going to be of much use there.



They will be when it's time to unass the AO.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (W2Fol)

253 Today we settle for good and all who holds sway over the Five Points Jericho!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:14 AM (VuJJJ)

254 news @ drudge: peepholes found in interstate rest area mens' bathrooms




That ought to keep Barry busy for a while

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 01, 2017 10:14 AM (493sH)

255 >>CNN headline that just peeled across my feed..."Republicans take
extraordinary steps to move forward with two of T's cabinet nominees"

We all remember how Obamacare was enacted - all the rules bent or broken, the sneakiness in both House and Senate.

Maybe we can get Paul Ryan to start walking around with Pelosi's big gavel just to drive the message home: you guys started this.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 10:14 AM (NOIQH)

256 If you commanded such a force, and you were not in the middle of the hell yourself, you probably counted on not much more than superior numbers to win the day. Unless you have horsed forces waiting to clean up, and then again, your horsemen aren't doing a lot of looking at uniform markings.

Sez you.

Posted by: King Leonidas at February 01, 2017 10:14 AM (tewYv)

257 Top down, George Strait on the radio. Gorgeous day

Feels very American

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:14 AM (0D4kT)

258 You know, this is the only smart military blog that has mentioned Gath more that three times in a year.

Party on, Wayne. Party on, Gath.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:14 AM (u0s1P)

259

Molon labe

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:15 AM (0D4kT)

260 253 Today we settle for good and all who holds sway over the Five Points Jericho!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:14 AM (VuJJJ)

====================

"By the ancient laws of combat, I accept the challenge of the so called "natives." They plague our people at every turn, but from this day out, they shall plague us no more. For let it be known, that the hand that tries to strike us from this land shall be swiftly cut down."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:15 AM (ThL6N)

261 I should have thought of that analogy...

But yeah. They're hanging themselves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (ThL6N)


I only thought of it because the coffee finally kicked in....

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:15 AM (Pd7Sl)

262 Violence, when you think about it, can solve essentially ANY problem. It just tends to create a lot of new problems when used. It is often a solution, just almost always not the BEST solution.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (xeeHA)

Maybe not always the best, but it's rapidly moving up the ladder.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (Jcg9Q)

263 205
Keep fucking that chicken Lefties. Trump isn't in politics with you, you are in politics with him.

Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 10:01 AM (tewYv)



BAM!!

Posted by: Emeril Lagasse at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (Pd7Sl)


Heh - Thanks Emeril Blaster - love it -

Love the Watchmen Rorschach reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3lsJmwNO40

Posted without further comment - for your enjoyment.




Posted by: Publius Redux at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (Fb9aZ)

264 I certainly didn't choose this work on its artistic merits, but rather to illustrate the quotation.

I liked the quotation. It was a strong quotation. It made me think of things outside of my immediate context.

Posted by: kallisto at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (nNdYv)

265 Trump's having a great presser with black community leaders and Trump supporters. He's going around the table and having all of them introduce themselves.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (Enq6K)

266 Trump is meeting with black leaders to kick off the start of black history month. No sign of Jesse Jackass or Al Sharpton. Resist we much!

Shit may, in fact, be real.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (u0s1P)

267 208 Read something interesting today, won't let me cut and paste it.

Basically, democrats are now protesting in the name of corporations and on behalf of globalists. They are Soros' tools.

They are protesting FOR the things they used to protest against.



Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 10:08 AM (J5mC3

I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that the anarchists/anti-fascists are nihilists.

Or maybe being an anarchists allows a wide latitude for fluid changes beleifs and actions.  

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (O6j88)

268 Logistics - a limerick



When fighting for King, Country and God
It might seem a little bit odd
But by logistics, we mean
You need bullets, and beans
And the best armies must be well-shod.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (wPiJc)

269 I don't know what that painting is officially named, but the scene depicted has nothing to do with Jericho. The painting is of the battle by Joshua against the Amalekites (basically the Palestinians of his day) as described in Exodus 17, 11 - 13.

The identifier of this scene is the two men holding up Moses' hands while he stands on a hill overlooking the battle.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (V2Yro)

270 *Put some Wassabe in your coffee, it works wonders
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM (SjImc)*


LOL

Posted by: tbodie at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (QjxTy)

271 but what about Sessions ???
Posted by: runner


WHAT ABOUT BOB?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (RFeQD)

272 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 01, 2017 09:54 AM (X6fMO)

If you want to give it a try she says you can email her at nyrdak.gaming at gmail. The project doesn't pay anything since it's her first but she always needs male voices and is specifically looking for voices for a dwarf, a half-troll and a fighter she thinks is human.

The project is a dramatization of a collaborative text game she's involved in and will be put on YouTube, without monetization to avoid any legal issues, when finished.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (sEDyY)

273 Morality & Religion- two compasses the left has abandoned.


Posted by: RondinellaMamma
****

And sanity...

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at February 01, 2017 10:17 AM (+aCe4)

274 news @ drudge: peepholes found in interstate rest area mens' bathrooms

This is news?

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at February 01, 2017 10:17 AM (Jcg9Q)

275 There, now it's a limerick.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 01, 2017 10:11 AM (wPiJc)

Now Imelda Marcos makes a lot more sense.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:17 AM (xeeHA)

276 Amazon's streaming service impressed me the least of the big providers. Except for "Bosch" nothing else appealed to me. Their movie selection was almost the same as Hulu's.
,,,

I just finished wathcing Sneaky Pete. It was good original content. They also had a one episode preview of Jean Claude van Johnson that cracked me up.

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:17 AM (1H9ox)

277 The identifier of this scene is the two men holding up Moses' hands while he stands on a hill overlooking the battle.
--
I KNEW it looked like Moses!

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 10:17 AM (Om16U)

278 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:15 AM (ThL6N)

Then may the Christian Lord guide my hand against your Roman popery!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:17 AM (VuJJJ)

279 216 I would sure like to see Brett Favre star in "Cat on A Hot Tin Roof."

Favre could barely get though the few lines he had in "There's Something About Mary." He was ridiculously bad.

My favorite QB movie performance is still Dan Marino & the scared, confused look that he wore throughout "Ace Ventura."

Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 10:17 AM (7HtZB)

280 Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (Enq6K)

I'll have to go look for a livestream.

Posted by: kallisto at February 01, 2017 10:18 AM (nNdYv)

281 Ah - the actual name of that painting by von Carolsfeld is "The Victory of Joshua over the Amalekites".

A painting of Jericho would feature a lot of trumpets and walls.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 01, 2017 10:19 AM (V2Yro)

282 Stuart Varney pointing out that Al Sharpton is NOT there. Hahaha!

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:19 AM (Enq6K)

283

Bring it fuckers

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:19 AM (0D4kT)

284 278 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:15 AM (ThL6N)

Then may the Christian Lord guide my hand against your Roman popery!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:17 AM (VuJJJ)

===================

"Prepare to meet the true Lord."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:19 AM (ThL6N)

285 All these Black people with the President will be called Uncle Tom's by the Left is 3, 2,1...
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (SjImc)
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Is it just me or is Trump WAY more popular with blacks than is generally appreciated? I feel like he has a real opportunity to flip the script on voting habits. While the general left was apoplectic after he won, I heard a lot of very reasonable, hopeful statements from the black community.

Not all of it, obviously. And not from the 'elite' leadership.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:19 AM (xeeHA)

286 There, now it's a limerick.

Posted by: Muldoon




You know when Muldoon has been around when you catch yourself reading posts in a limerick lilt.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 10:19 AM (W2Fol)

287 I heard a lot of very reasonable, hopeful statements from the black community.

Not all of it, obviously. And not from the 'elite' leadership.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:19 AM (xeeHA)

IF he delivers results to the Black Community he will make huge inroads in the next Election.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:20 AM (SjImc)

288 I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that the anarchists/anti-fascists are nihilists.

--

That article on oathkeepers about the 3 sets of protesters was really interesting.

Iirc, in order of increasing violence and militancy it was liberals, commies, and anarchists.

The anarchists call themselves anti-facists and everyone they don't like is fascist or nazi or both. They are also very organized.

It kinda boggles the mind that the anarchists are the most organized.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 10:20 AM (Om16U)

289 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 01, 2017 10:19 AM (V2Yro)

This is not my finest hour.

Although...I did spell "Dildo" correctly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 01, 2017 10:21 AM (rF0hx)

290 Any QB performance is better than Terry Bradshaw and his ass in Failure to Launch.

And sadly, that isn't ass in the Biblical sense.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 01, 2017 10:21 AM (+PEqr)

291 287
IF he delivers results to the Black Community he will make huge inroads in the next Election.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:20 AM (SjImc)

=================

If Trump can get 25% of voting blacks to vote Republican, and if Republicans can hold onto that, Democrats won't win another presidential election for a generation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:21 AM (ThL6N)

292 Not all of it, obviously. And not from the 'elite' leadership.

Well ... in all fairness, my supposed Elite Leadership don't really speak for me either.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 01, 2017 10:21 AM (1ZlS3)

293 Is it just me or is Trump WAY more popular with blacks than is generally appreciated?

I think that he is. I first figured that out when I saw a local attorney's ads on Judge Judy that was a parody of Trump's wall building speech.

Though black men like him more than black women. The press says that's because black men are a bunch of sexists.

Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 10:22 AM (tewYv)

294 Strange.

Posted by: E pluribus Juan at February 01, 2017 10:22 AM (ZFUt7)

295 Trump is meeting with black leaders to kick off the start of black history month. No sign of Jesse Jackass or Al Sharpton. Resist we much!

There's a news video of Jess-uh praising Trump. I'll bet the farm he was "talked to" shortly thereafter.

*Put some Wassabe in your coffee, it works wonders
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM (SjImc)*


0.0

Not until after a good morning shit.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:22 AM (Pd7Sl)

296 I've always been curious how, in these old timey battles, were people able to distinguish friend from foe? Once you're in the middle of that maelstrom of non-uniformed combatants I would think you would basically be attempting to hack your way through anyone that wasn't your best friend.
Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (1H9ox)


Thus the importance of maintaining a tight battle line, knowing instinctively what the trumpet sounds you needed to know were, and keeping attention on your standard's position. In addition, shield patterns and decoration were identifiers as were crests on helmets. Drill was important so that you did not need to think much about any of that at all, it just became second nature.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet sponsors The Man in the High Dudgeon! at February 01, 2017 10:22 AM (hLRSq)

297 I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that the anarchists/anti-fascists are nihilists.


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Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, but at least it's an ethos. Nihilists? Fuck me!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at February 01, 2017 10:22 AM (7HtZB)

298 The anarchists call themselves anti-facists and everyone they don't like is fascist or nazi or both. They are also very organized.

It kinda boggles the mind that the anarchists are the most organized.
Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 10:20 AM (Om16U)

They also seem to be real big on expensive government programs. I don't think they quite grok the whole "anarchy" thing. Hell, I'm probably closer to an actual anarchist than they are. They're just Bolsheviks.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:22 AM (VuJJJ)

299 Y'all be good. I'm taking a time out to take care of me. Too much winning has made me a dull boy.

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at February 01, 2017 10:22 AM (O6j88)

300 Is it just me or is Trump WAY more popular with blacks than is generally appreciated?

Sure looks like it. I assume there's more, but I'd ascribe part of that to A) not an establishment (i.e. demonized) Republican, B) reality show, C) blacks, like whites and almost every other human on Earth, want to be rich, and D) Not Hillary.

Plus anything downstream of D) (not much to show for voting Democrat and such).

But those are just guesses. I'm someone else can elucidate more eloquently anon.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:22 AM (u0s1P)

301 900 State Dept Officials sign a dissent memo. 900 ???? boy oh boy, State Dept is bloated isn't ?

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 10:23 AM (c6/9Q)

302 Although...I did spell "Dildo" correctly.

No, it's "dildoe."

Posted by: Dan Quayle at February 01, 2017 10:23 AM (97XyN)

303 Black, gay, and union blue collar are very much up for grabs right now.

The Dems are pissing in their own faces.

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 01, 2017 10:23 AM (Pxqnw)

304 Iirc, in order of increasing violence and militancy it was liberals, commies, and anarchists.

The anarchists call themselves anti-facists and everyone they don't like is fascist or nazi or both. They are also very organized.



Anarchists truly don't want anarchy. They just don't know it.

Because a lack of government and laws means they get hunted down and ended in their beds. Along with anyone they've ever know.

There's your lack of government and laws.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 10:23 AM (W2Fol)

305 Even Henry Clay never became president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:10 AM (ELE3W)


There's a story that, at the start of the 1844 election, a friend of Clay's ran up to him excitedly with the news that the Democrats had nominated the extremely dark horse (and, so thought the friend, easily defeated) James Polk to run.

According to the story, Clay stood still for a moment, then muttered, "Beat again, by God!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 01, 2017 10:23 AM (X6fMO)

306 I've always been curious how, in these old timey battles, were
people able to distinguish friend from foe?

*****


Start singing the Michigan fight song.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 01, 2017 10:23 AM (wPiJc)

307 news @ drudge: peepholes found in interstate rest area mens' bathrooms

This is news?
Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends


You don't say.

Posted by: The Barrel at February 01, 2017 10:23 AM (TnUKj)

308 Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 10:17 AM (7HtZB)

How about Roman Gabriel in The Undefeated?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 01, 2017 10:23 AM (AC18V)

309 IF he delivers results to the Black Community he will make huge inroads in the next Election.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:20 AM (SjImc)



He's under cutting the Dems by getting jobs in this country for union workers not stuffing the pockets of leadership. He's appealing directly to blacks not the usual song and dance with the Jackson/Sharpton clown show. He could really flip many states if this works

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 01, 2017 10:23 AM (493sH)

310 Is it just me or is Trump WAY more popular with blacks than is generally appreciated? I feel like he has a real opportunity to flip the script on voting habits. While the general left was apoplectic after he won, I heard a lot of very reasonable, hopeful statements from the black community.
,,,
I don't think it is just Trump...well maybe...but there are some points that he has pushed that play well in the black community.
Immigration. The refuge ban. School choice. Manufacturing. Cleaning up crime in the inner cities.

Those are real issues that some in the black community...not the race hustlers, but the working man...hold much more in common with DT (and conservatives) than Chuck Schumer.

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:23 AM (1H9ox)

311 Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, but at least it's an ethos. Nihilists? Fuck me!
Posted by: Walter Sobchak at February 01, 2017 10:22 AM (7HtZB)

LOL

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:24 AM (VuJJJ)

312 I've always been curious how, in these old timey battles, were people able to distinguish friend from foe? Once you're in the middle of that maelstrom of non-uniformed combatants I would think you would basically be attempting to hack your way through anyone that wasn't your best friend.
Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (1H9ox)

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You can see a very minor form of this confusion in the opening battle of Gladiator.

Russell Crowe is about to cut someone down and only stops when he recognizes the man personally. It's hard to slow down in chaos, even when the two sides are wearing very different clothes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:09 AM (ThL6N)


And of course, with mud and blood and God knows what else, pretty quickly a battle field ceases to reveal distinguishable colors.

Even in relatively modern times, the American Civil War started with no uniformity to the attire of the combatants. There were blue coats on rebels, gray coats on union men, and great gaggles of colors on some of the fancier, wealthier regiments, with feathers and parachute pants and who knows what else.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:24 AM (TOk1P)

313 We just had the highest job print since June. With the exception of that month it's the highest print since December 2015.

They are also good jobs, with the biggest gains in professional/business and TTU.

Go Trump.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 01, 2017 10:24 AM (llUHc)

314 Keep fucking that chicken Lefties. Trump isn't in politics with you, you are in politics with him.

Can this get gold certified for all A o' S platinum members?

Posted by: Max Power at February 01, 2017 10:24 AM (QCc6B)

315 He's under cutting the Dems by getting jobs in this country for union workers not stuffing the pockets of leadership. He's appealing directly to blacks not the usual song and dance with the Jackson/Sharpton clown show. He could really flip many states if this works
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 01, 2017 10:23 AM (493sH)


yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:24 AM (SjImc)

316 Maybe not always the best, but it's rapidly moving up the ladder.
Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (Jcg9Q)
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The police think they are deescalating the situation by not cracking down hard on protesters like the ones in the Portland airport.

But outside their view, the spirit of violence is growing among the people that refuse to be victims and see an absence of justice for those that use violence as a political tool.

If the police won't protect a man with a bible from masked thugs, we will. They won't like how we do it.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:24 AM (xeeHA)

317 If Trump can get 25% of voting blacks to vote Republican, and if Republicans can hold onto that, Democrats won't win another presidential election for a generation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:21 AM (ThL6N)


Schadenboner Status: Preparing for trans lunar injection.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:24 AM (Pd7Sl)

318 300 Is it just me or is Trump WAY more popular with blacks than is generally appreciated?

Sure looks like it. I assume there's more, but I'd ascribe part of that to A) not an establishment (i.e. demonized) Republican, B) reality show, C) blacks, like whites and almost every other human on Earth, want to be rich, and D) Not Hillary.

Plus anything downstream of D) (not much to show for voting Democrat and such).

But those are just guesses. I'm someone else can elucidate more eloquently anon.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:22 AM (u0s1P)

I think black men like Trump's "living bigly, don't give a shit" attitude. It's very hip-hop.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at February 01, 2017 10:24 AM (7HtZB)

319 >>>>Is it just me or is Trump WAY more popular with blacks than is generally
appreciated? I feel like he has a real opportunity to flip the script
on voting habits. While the general left was apoplectic after he won, I
heard a lot of very reasonable, hopeful statements from the black
community.



Not all of it, obviously. And not from the 'elite' leadership.
.
.
.
.Little known under reported fact.....Trump got more of the black and Hispanic vote than either Romney or McCain got.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 01, 2017 10:25 AM (le7jz)

320 305 Even Henry Clay never became president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:10 AM (ELE3W)

There's a story that, at the start of the 1844 election, a friend of Clay's ran up to him excitedly with the news that the Democrats had nominated the extremely dark horse (and, so thought the friend, easily defeated) James Polk to run.

According to the story, Clay stood still for a moment, then muttered, "Beat again, by God!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 01, 2017 10:23 AM (X6fMO)

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And I think we thank God for that gift of Polk as president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:25 AM (ThL6N)

321 Is it just me or is Trump WAY more popular with blacks than is generally appreciated? I feel like he has a real opportunity to flip the script on voting habits. While the general left was apoplectic after he won, I heard a lot of very reasonable, hopeful statements from the black community.

Not all of it, obviously. And not from the 'elite' leadership
.

Maybe some folks see an opportunity to make real improvement. Good for them

Posted by: tbodie at February 01, 2017 10:25 AM (QjxTy)

322 Is only me or does it look like the dems might be boycotting the Sessions vote also?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:25 AM (SjImc)

323 >>The anarchists call themselves anti-facists and everyone they don't like
is fascist or nazi or both. They are also very organized.

It kinda boggles the mind that the anarchists are the most organized.


Ayers is part of the Anti-Fascists group along with a lot of 60's era activists.
This is a seasoned, professional group who has been perfecting its tactics for decades. They may put young punks in the front line, but don't bee fooled into thinking that's who they are.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 10:25 AM (NOIQH)

324 MTF,

I apologize for jumping the gun on you so quick. I should not have. The ban has been pulled.

Tim

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at February 01, 2017 10:25 AM (d76uN)

325 So the Dems are voting "not present" on everything?

How do you fund raise off that stance?

Posted by: Batterup at February 01, 2017 10:25 AM (mtGE/)

326 You know when Muldoon has been around when you catch yourself reading posts in a limerick lilt. Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 10:19 AM (W2Fol)
=====

We got rhythm.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 01, 2017 10:25 AM (MIKMs)

327 Black, gay, and union blue collar are very much up for grabs right now.

The Dems are pissing in their own faces.
,,,
This is where DT can help the conservatives overcome the "inevitable demographic shift" that is supposedly going to make this country forever socialist (because only white males are conservative). And he is working his way there already.

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:26 AM (1H9ox)

328 If Trump can get 25% of voting blacks to vote Republican, and if Republicans can hold onto that, Democrats won't win another presidential election for a generation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:21 AM (ThL6N)


That would be something not done since Nixon. Just breaking double digits would be a signal achievement. In the final analysis I don't think Trump did that, but did get a higher percentage than any Republican since GHWB.

Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 10:26 AM (tewYv)

329 312 Even in relatively modern times, the American Civil War started with no uniformity to the attire of the combatants. There were blue coats on rebels, gray coats on union men, and great gaggles of colors on some of the fancier, wealthier regiments, with feathers and parachute pants and who knows what else.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:24 AM (TOk1P)

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Didn't the Confederacy begin with blue uniforms?

The only reason the stopped with the blue was because the gray was cheaper to manufacture, I think.

Talk about confusion.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:26 AM (ThL6N)

330 >> Is only me or does it look like the dems might be boycotting the Sessions vote also

That senile old fuck Leahy is there.

Posted by: Elivis Costello at February 01, 2017 10:26 AM (/tuJf)

331 what if Frank Frazetta had painted this scene? Some possibilities come to mind right off.

Posted by: JTB

Like most fuddy-duddies, I have him in my pantheon of Greatest Artists Evah, right next to a couple of other "illustrators."

Cecil B. DeMille once said his family owned one of those 19th-century lavishly illustrated Bibles, and it was his lifelong inspiration in blocking out scenes. Makes you thing of Clockwork Orange's young Alex in bible-study class in prison. There are a lot of lessons in the Bible. Some are good.


Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 01, 2017 10:26 AM (H5rtT)

332 Immigration. The refuge ban. School choice. Manufacturing. Cleaning up crime in the inner cities.

Yeah, forgot about the actual issues in play. That'll learn me. Immigration (and jobs) has to be yuuuuge. Anyway, my point about being taken for granted by the Democrat leadership ties into this, so I'll give myself a B+.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:27 AM (u0s1P)

333 He's going around the table and having all of them introduce themselves.

He's just acknowledging his white privilege.. allowing them to speak first.

Posted by: McCool at February 01, 2017 10:27 AM (nCSwS)

334 dammit

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 10:27 AM (/tuJf)

335 249 ... "I certainly didn't choose this work on its artistic merits, but rather to illustrate the quotation.

Yes...politics creeps into everything...even the Art Thread!"

CBD, I had to smile at that. If I was creating this painting as a modern piece, I would have Trump blowing the war horn while his administration people and fly over country voters march around Jericho's crumbling walls, revealing Schumer, Pelosi and the MFM buried in the rubble.

Hmmm! I either need moar coffee or shouldn't have had any this morning.

Posted by: JTB at February 01, 2017 10:27 AM (V+03K)

336 Nope now the dems showed up..just late as usual

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:27 AM (SjImc)

337 If the police won't protect a man with a bible from masked thugs, we will. They won't like how we do it.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:24 AM (xeeHA)

In Dearborn, the cops will beat and arrest the guy with the bible because he's upsetting the GFMs.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:27 AM (VuJJJ)

338 A 10% flip in the black vote would be enormous.

Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 10:27 AM (7HtZB)

339 I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that the anarchists/anti-fascists are nihilists.



Or maybe being an anarchists allows a wide latitude for fluid changes beleifs and actions.
Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at February 01, 2017 10:16 AM (O6j8


anarchists are and always have been socialists, they are the original brand that put aside parlor mutterings and the big-hearted gestures. Fascists are Socialists, they were an attempt to be socialists without the violence that the Anarchists brought as a tactic. Communists are Socialists, they just more obvious about being a totalitarian.

Socialism is a philosophy of greed and covetousness no matter what it calls itself, it is a Ponzi scheme that first promises to take from the people you resent and give their goods to you for free, then turns into a society wide prison to ensure you get your share, then starts burying people in mass graves because they are the wrong sort of people for this sort of society.

The only good thing about Communists is that they jail and execute the Anarchists to the last man when they achieve power and no longer need the Anarchists' support.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 01, 2017 10:27 AM (6f7eA)

340 >>.Little known under reported fact.....Trump got more of the black and Hispanic vote than either Romney or McCain got.

He may be getting more of their support in office.
He speaks to the ones who still have family values, such as all of the black preachers who are against abortion. They're out there, despite the Left and MSM only holding up charlatans like Sharpton as their community's spokesman.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 10:27 AM (NOIQH)

341 And remember if PT does not revoke a women's right to vote , he should also increase his share of the female vote also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:28 AM (SjImc)

342 328
That would be something not done since Nixon. Just breaking double digits would be a signal achievement. In the final analysis I don't think Trump did that, but did get a higher percentage than any Republican since GHWB.

Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 10:26 AM (tewYv)

=================

So he went to pre-Obama levels. To this historical norm.

Wait until Trump can deliver some positive changes to the country overall and the black community in general.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:28 AM (ThL6N)

343 32 Schumer voted against Elaine Chow the other day. They are trying to hit bottom fast


Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 09:38 AM (c6/9Q)

Make the Left live up to their own rules.

Chuck-you Schumer is a Racist and Misogynist.

Beat that drum until his ass bleeds.

Posted by: Hikaru at February 01, 2017 10:28 AM (9TK8E)

344 It's also ironic that the anarchists accuse others of being jackbooted brownshirts and yet their the ones who show up at protests in what's practically ninja uniforms.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 10:28 AM (Om16U)

345 Does anyone have a handle on what the percentage of black workers that is unionized is relative to population and compared to others?

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:28 AM (1H9ox)

346 If Trump can get 25% of voting blacks to vote Republican, and if Republicans can hold onto that, Democrats won't win another presidential election for a generation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:21 AM (ThL6N)
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I think the partisan split of blacks should be roughly the same as whites when you take away the effect of the Racist GOP Boogeyman that the Democrats have forged for 50 years.

Maybe a significant tilt to the left for economic reasons, but I think there are just as many sensible black people as white people once you take away the poisoning started with the Great Society.

In other words, I think, if Trump can dis-spell the illusion, there will be a cascading effect and the GOP may end up with 35-40% of the black vote.

I think he'd only need a marginal improvement in inner cities to achieve this.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:29 AM (xeeHA)

347 There were blue coats on rebels, gray coats on union men, and great gaggles of colors on some of the fancier, wealthier regiments,

with feathers and parachute pants and who knows what else.




Members Only jackets.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 10:29 AM (W2Fol)

348 How do you fund raise off that stance?
Posted by: Batterup at February 01, 2017 10:25 AM (mtGE/)

We refuse to compromise with the tactics of President Trump who has taken actions against the environment, women and the right of people to come here and make a new life. Therefore we say "no" by refusing to show up. This shows our solidarity with the American people who reject his divisievness...blah, blah blah----principled stand



Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 10:29 AM (fDdVG)

349 "I've always been curious how, in these old timey battles, were people able to distinguish friend from foe? "

One of the lesser known stories of the American Civil War is just how many times two units (sometimes full divisions) on the same side would open fire on each other, sometimes battling for hours before they realized they were both on the same side. Takes "friendly fire" to a whole new level.

This has a bearing why both sides had an unofficial rule to never fight in the dark. Each army tried surprise attacks at night, but when the dust settled, they would realize that they shot as many of their own men as they shot of the opposing army whenever they tried that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 01, 2017 10:29 AM (V2Yro)

350 Amazon's streaming service impressed me the least of the big providers. Except for "Bosch" nothing else appealed to me. Their movie selection was almost the same as Hulu's.
,,,

I just finished wathcing Sneaky Pete. It was good original content. They also had a one episode preview of Jean Claude van Johnson that cracked me up.

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:17 AM (1H9ox)


I watched that Jean Claude thing, it wasn't bad at all.

Never bothered with Sneaky Pete, it just doesn't sound all that interesting to me.

You know the one that is much better than how they sell it? "Catastrophe," which is about an American dude, and Irish chick who accidentally (well, somewhat on purpose) get pregnant, and then try to figure out what to do about it.

I watched the first season. It's funny, touching, more than a bit respectful of the subject matter, and refreshingly honest about what it's like to have to relative strangers try to figure out what to do with a baby between them on the way.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:29 AM (TOk1P)

351 >>There's a news video of Jess-uh praising Trump. I'll bet the farm he was "talked to" shortly thereafter.


Not a Jesse fan, but he was absent throughout Obama's presidency, and I suspect that was Obama's decision. He preferred having Sharpton as his advisor.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 10:29 AM (NOIQH)

352 332 Yeah, forgot about the actual issues in play. That'll learn me. Immigration (and jobs) has to be yuuuuge. Anyway, my point about being taken for granted by the Democrat leadership ties into this, so I'll give myself a B+.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:27 AM (u0s1P)

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School choice is extremely important to the black community, but black communities keep electing Democratic lawmakers that are hostile to the very idea.

We've been waiting for at least some of the black community to break ranks on that issue for years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:30 AM (ThL6N)

353 It's a truly unjust world where Pat Leahy outlives Heath Ledger.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 01, 2017 10:30 AM (+PEqr)

354 Little known under reported fact.....Trump got more of the black and Hispanic vote than either Romney or McCain got.



Another interesting fact. Puerto Ricans can't vote for President while living in Puerto Rico. 500,000 of them have moved to Florida. They can now vote for President. Apparently they did not vote in mass for Hillary. Something about moving from an area with the lowest labor participation rate around might have influenced their vote, I suspect.

Posted by: E pluribus Juan at February 01, 2017 10:30 AM (ZFUt7)

355 The professionals political class is very good at fund raising. They prey on the fears of people while making themselves sound noble and heroic.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 10:30 AM (fDdVG)

356 >>331
what if Frank Frazetta had painted this scene? Some possibilities come to mind right off.

Now we're getting somewhere.

Posted by: General Zod at February 01, 2017 10:30 AM (Bdeb0)

357 I don't think they had parachute pants in the Civil War, dude. it's not like the South's rebel yell was an homage to Billy Idol

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (IbBNa)

358 FBN: Sessions confirmation is currently underway.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (Enq6K)

359 349 "I've always been curious how, in these old timey battles, were people able to distinguish friend from foe? "

One of the lesser known stories of the American Civil War is just how many times two units (sometimes full divisions) on the same side would open fire on each other, sometimes battling for hours before they realized they were both on the same side. Takes "friendly fire" to a whole new level.

This has a bearing why both sides had an unofficial rule to never fight in the dark. Each army tried surprise attacks at night, but when the dust settled, they would realize that they shot as many of their own men as they shot of the opposing army whenever they tried that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 01, 2017 10:29 AM (V2Yro)

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It's how Stonewall Jackson died.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (ThL6N)

360 I think black men like Trump's "living bigly, don't give a shit" attitude. It's very hip-hop.

Yeah. Tough the Hispanic support is harder to square with the Narrative. My theory is that most actual citizens are okay with border controls, but support wanes some if you have relatives and/or friends who are illegal or would be if they came.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (u0s1P)

361 341 And remember if PT does not revoke a women's right to vote , he should also increase his share of the female vote also
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:28 AM (SjImc)


The drooling infants at the (D)U Romper Room post that shit CONSTANTLY.

Just mind-numbing.....

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (Pd7Sl)

362 Harley Davidson cancelled an upcoming factory visit by President Trump out of fears of negative publicity. They're in Milwaukee which is run by a Dem machine and full of SJWs.

If you have a Twitter account, tell them, as I just did, that you will never ever buy another one of their motorcycles.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (U6f54)

363 Frazetta should have lived to paint Trump's inaugural portrait

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (IbBNa)

364 >>Little known under reported fact.....Trump got more of the black and Hispanic vote than either Romney or McCain got.

Trump didn't run against our first historic black President. He ran against a nasty old drunk in a pantsuit who's husband the black community blames for aggressively locking up black men.

He did pretty well with minorities but the situation shouldn't be ignored.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 10:32 AM (/tuJf)

365 FBN: Sessions confirmation is currently underway.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (Enq6K)

Final confirmation or just out of committee?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at February 01, 2017 10:32 AM (d76uN)

366 Talk about confusion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:26 AM (ThL6N)
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It is a major point here in Wisconsin, when teaching the Civil War, that our regiments wore Grey.

Maybe not for the ENTIRE war but for a great deal of it.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:32 AM (xeeHA)

367 I've only ordered three things from Amazon ever. And they've all happened in only the last month. Obviously I don't do Prime.

I get most of my clothes through Kohl's. They always have a lot of sales and Kohl's cash.

You can probably get all your electronic needs through Newegg and they usually have pretty good prices.

Posted by: Independent George at February 01, 2017 10:33 AM (BDZWU)

368 361 341 And remember if PT does not revoke a women's right to vote , he should also increase his share of the female vote also
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:28 AM (SjImc)

The drooling infants at the (D)U Romper Room post that shit CONSTANTLY.

Just mind-numbing.....
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (Pd7Sl)

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I believe that the pattern for re-elections is that presidents tend to grow their share of the electorate (Obama being an ahistorical counter-example).

With that in mind, Trump has a lot of room to grow. More than most presidents, I think.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:33 AM (ThL6N)

369 The only reason the stopped with the blue was because the gray was cheaper to manufacture, I think.

That does make some sense. The reason purple became associated with royalty and the Church was due to the cost of the indigo dye way back when, and only the rich could afford it. Again, stuff we take for granted was really hard back in the day.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:33 AM (u0s1P)

370 If they showed up great.


They were going to fundraise off of their delaying the nominees and now they can fundraise of their vote against them in committee.

Either way it moves the vote forward and gets it out of delay.



Posted by: H Badger at February 01, 2017 10:33 AM (n/0Nw)

371 If you have a Twitter account, tell them, as I just did, that you will never ever buy another one of their motorcycles.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (U6f54)


Never bought one, but my neighbor has two.

I'll use his name.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:33 AM (Pd7Sl)

372 Final confirmation or just out of committee?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at February 01, 2017 10:32 AM (d76uN)

Committee...and surprise...the Dems showed up.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2017 10:33 AM (Enq6K)

373 Final confirmation or just out of committee?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at February 01, 2017 10:32 AM (d76uN)

Out of committee

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:33 AM (SjImc)

374 291
287

IF he delivers results to the Black Community he will make huge inroads in the next Election.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:20 AM (SjImc)



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If Trump can get 25% of voting blacks to vote Republican, and if
Republicans can hold onto that, Democrats won't win another presidential
election for a generation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:21 AM (ThL6N)

_____________________________________
Agreed! The Donald is way more popular with rank and file blacks than he gets credit for as most of them are sick to death of both the liberal establishment democrat types that run the cities and the crazy SJW types who are advocating things like attacking the police etc. which just leads to more violence in black neighborhoods and less police protection. Most blacks I know (and I do know a few!) are like that woman in Baltimore who saw her son participating in the "demonstrations" ( actually riots) and went down there and grabbed his *ss beat him and took him home. What do black people like that want? Jobs, safety and the chance to get ahead with a good education for their children. That is it. If Trump can show that he can take away control of the crime problem, in places like Chicago, from dumb numnuts like Rahm Emmanuael, and reduce crime and get the economy going ( stopping things like the Detroit Rot and company flight caused by Democrats ) he is going to get a lot more than 25% of the black vote in the next election. Frankly it will solidify his street cred as being very "gangster" - which he already has.I mean, my God, do lefty libs in DC and New York think the average black voter wants unbridled Moslem refugees to stream, into the US? WTF?! Absolutely clueless - and let's hope they stay that way.As someone on here much more intelligent than me has already said today:"Keep f*ckin that chicken!"

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 01, 2017 10:33 AM (Fb9aZ)

375 Dear (insert Democrat Voter name),

As you know I am in the fight for your life. We must protect our values, our American values against the Trump onslaught. But this fight requires me to ask a favor from you. We need money to make up generic signs and hire protesters to represent our views. If you would just send $3 it would make a difference.

In return, I promise to continue to not show up for my job in the Senate, but I will go on friendly TV news shows to repeat my party line, and offer you the necessary platitudes to keep you in the state of misinformed chaos we value so much.

Yes I know it is a big sacrifice to not show up for the job the taxpayers pay me a mere $174,000 for but it is necessary.

In solidarity,

(insert Democrat Senator's name)

Posted by: Batterup at February 01, 2017 10:34 AM (mtGE/)

376 Blue? Grey? Feh.

Real soldiers wear butternut.

Posted by: Jefferson Davis at February 01, 2017 10:34 AM (97XyN)

377 369 The only reason they stopped with the blue was because the gray was cheaper to manufacture, I think.

That does make some sense. The reason purple became associated with royalty and the Church was due to the cost of the indigo dye way back when, and only the rich could afford it. Again, stuff we take for granted was really hard back in the day.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:33 AM (u0s1P)

====================

"Why do you think I'm objecting over nothing?"
-Very smart college student who's struggling with their core classes but acing that gender studies course

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:35 AM (ThL6N)

378 I hate Amazon's streaming. It's clunky interface and clumsy browsing are no where close to Netflix's quality. No one talks about the Amazon original stuff much either. The new version of Top Gear was off to a very rocky start, I'll have to watch more but I think I've already lost interest.

Posted by: Dang at February 01, 2017 10:35 AM (8b+oT)

379 I rename this painting 'Seattle Police Confront Conservative Protestors'

Posted by: Under Fire at February 01, 2017 10:35 AM (6LwXe)

380 How very outlaw biker of Harley Davidson.

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 01, 2017 10:35 AM (Pxqnw)

381 It's time for Gwyneth to stuff some "Party of No" balls up her hoohah.

Posted by: Roy at February 01, 2017 10:35 AM (VndSC)

382 I don't think they had parachute pants in the Civil War, dude. it's not like the South's rebel yell was an homage to Billy Idol

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (IbBNa)

You can call it something else. I think "parachute pants" is an apt description:

http://tinyurl.com/z6zp8by

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:36 AM (TOk1P)

383 375 Dear (insert Democrat Voter name),

As you know I am in the fight for your life. We must protect our values, our American values against the Trump onslaught. But this fight requires me to ask a favor from you. We need money to make up generic signs and hire protesters to represent our views. If you would just send $3 it would make a difference.

In return, I promise to continue to not show up for my job in the Senate, but I will go on friendly TV news shows to repeat my party line, and offer you the necessary platitudes to keep you in the state of misinformed chaos we value so much.

Yes I know it is a big sacrifice to not show up for the job the taxpayers pay me a mere $174,000 for but it is necessary.

In solidarity,

(insert Democrat Senator's name)
Posted by: Batterup at February 01, 2017 10:34 AM (mtGE/)

===================

"Sounds like a winning strategy to me!"
-Out of work, former WI Democratic state legislator

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:36 AM (ThL6N)

384 251 news @ drudge: peepholes found in interstate rest area mens' bathrooms

1. those aren't peepholes
2. where's Bill Wynn?
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 10:13 AM (IbBNa)

[Looking up from peephole] I'm busy here! Go talk to the Chamber of Commerce!

Posted by: Will Bynn at February 01, 2017 10:36 AM (RD7QR)

385
Some local news - Chicago had over 300 shootings and 52 killed in January. Up over 2016 record numbers. The shootings aren't just happening on the south and west sides. Three people were shot Saturday morning in the heart of the Gold Coast. And what did Tiny Dancer do? He had some "Dreamers" to his house for dinner. Gee, I wonder why people are fleeing the city?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 01, 2017 10:36 AM (493sH)

386 It's also ironic that the anarchists accuse others of being jackbooted brownshirts and yet their the ones who show up at protests in what's practically ninja uniforms.

Point of pendantry order-- ninja didn't generally wear the all-black bodysuits. They were spies and assassins, and dressed to blend in. The black costuming apparently comes from theater stage hands, who'd dress like that as they moved props. As an audience-member, you kind of trained yourself to ignore them.

And then one would kill a guy, and it was like an invisible man had done it.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:36 AM (u0s1P)

387 With that in mind, Trump has a lot of room to grow. More than most presidents, I think.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:33 AM (ThL6N)


He keeps the economy on track and actually makes any noticeable improvement in the inner city black situation and the (D)Marxists might as well sit out the next three elections.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:36 AM (Pd7Sl)

388 325 So the Dems are voting "not present" on everything?

How do you fund raise off that stance?

Posted by: Batterup at February 01, 2017 10:25 AM (mtGE/)

They're the RESISTANCE!

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 10:36 AM (ZM2xo)

389 ...with feathers and parachute pants and who knows what else...


******


"Can't touch this!"

/Brevet Brigadier M.C. Hammer of the First Philadelphia Fusilier Battalion

Posted by: Muldoon at February 01, 2017 10:37 AM (wPiJc)

390 How do you fund raise off that stance?
Posted by: Batterup at February 01, 2017 10:25 AM (mtGE/)

LOL. You're good at this....but I bet you could do a real fund raising letter that they would write if you wanted to.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 10:37 AM (fDdVG)

391 357 I don't think they had parachute pants in the Civil War, dude. it's not like the South's rebel yell was an homage to Billy Idol
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (IbBNa)

Rico Zuoave
http://civilwar.si.edu/soldiering_zuoave.html

Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 10:37 AM (7HtZB)

392 I am not surprised about Harley. big corporate suits against their own workforce and customer base

hopefully their board fires the ceo' s sorry ass

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 10:37 AM (IbBNa)

393 I'll bet a lot of Harley employees are deplorables.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 10:37 AM (ZM2xo)

394 No one talks about the Amazon original stuff much either.


Mad Dogs series (original Amazon stuff) is pretty good.

Posted by: E pluribus Juan at February 01, 2017 10:37 AM (ZFUt7)

395 385
Some local news - Chicago had over 300 shootings and 52 killed in January. Up over 2016 record numbers. The shootings aren't just happening on the south and west sides. Three people were shot Saturday morning in the heart of the Gold Coast. And what did Tiny Dancer do? He had some "Dreamers" to his house for dinner. Gee, I wonder why people are fleeing the city?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 01, 2017 10:36 AM (493sH)

==================

And yet, he'll still get re-elected in 2019, I'm sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:37 AM (ThL6N)

396 I don't think they had parachute pants in the Civil War, dude. it's not like the South's rebel yell was an homage to Billy Idol Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 10:31 AM (IbBNa)
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Check out the 'Zouaves' uniforms.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 01, 2017 10:38 AM (MIKMs)

397 Love the painting, Joos kicking ass and not taking names.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 01, 2017 10:38 AM (voOPb)

398 Look!! No pants!!!

Posted by: Colossus of Ben Rhodes at February 01, 2017 10:38 AM (VFhMt)

399 Real soldiers wear butternut.

Posted by: Jefferson Davis at February 01, 2017 10:34 AM


Wouldn't that get a little messy?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 01, 2017 10:38 AM (p+Wdc)

400 347
There were blue coats on rebels, gray coats on union men, and great
gaggles of colors on some of the fancier, wealthier regiments,



with feathers and parachute pants and who knows what else.









Members Only jackets.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 10:29 AM (W2Fol)

MC Hammer ---- is that you?

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 01, 2017 10:38 AM (Fb9aZ)

401 "It is a major point here in Wisconsin, when teaching the Civil War, that our regiments wore Grey.

Maybe not for the ENTIRE war but for a great deal of it."

One of my ancestors was Lt. Col. Harrison C. Hobart, in command of the 21st Wisconsin at the Battle of Chickamauga, taken prisoner and sent to Libby prison in Virginia, and one of the leaders of the greatest prison break of the war.

ALMOST was Governor.

I think of him when Democrats tell me I owe reparations for slavery, or something.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 01, 2017 10:38 AM (V2Yro)

402 ...with feathers and parachute pants and who knows what else...


******


"Can't touch this!"

/Brevet Brigadier M.C. Hammer of the First Philadelphia Fusilier Battalion

Posted by: Muldoon at February 01, 2017 10:37 AM (wPiJc)


Wanna bet?

Posted by: Sharpshooter from Alabama at February 01, 2017 10:39 AM (TOk1P)

403 392 I am not surprised about Harley. big corporate suits against their own workforce and customer base

hopefully their board fires the ceo' s sorry ass
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 10:37 AM (IbBNa)

Which seems to be the norm this century. Be a great subject for a future discussion.

Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 10:39 AM (7HtZB)

404 393 I'll bet a lot of Harley employees are deplorables.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 10:37 AM (ZM2xo)


Yep. They certainly are down here.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 10:39 AM (Pd7Sl)

405 one thing mentioned about Gorsuch by those who know him and his record is that he is not afraid and sticks to his principles. much needed quality on that bench. Roberts went wobbly. now we have a mess.

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 10:39 AM (c6/9Q)

406 Can we tunnel into some older low yielding coal mines, turn them into rockets, speed up the Earth's rotation and fling Al Gore into space.

Posted by: DaveA at February 01, 2017 10:40 AM (8J/Te)

407 300 Is it just me or is Trump WAY more popular with blacks than is generally appreciated?

Sure looks like it. I assume there's more, but I'd ascribe part of that to A) not an establishment (i.e. demonized) Republican, B) reality show, C) blacks, like whites and almost every other human on Earth, want to be rich, and D) Not Hillary.

Plus anything downstream of D) (not much to show for voting Democrat and such).

But those are just guesses. I'm someone else can elucidate more eloquently anon.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:22 AM (u0s1P)

I think working class whites and blacks both admire Trump for reaching out and grabbing life by the pussy. (If you'll excuse a turn of phrase.) He's not only rich, he's in-your-face rich; his wife is not just pretty, she's a hot model; his lifestyle is not only luxurious, it's way bigly luxurious. These guys look at that and go "Yeah, I want a guy who knows how to live large." It seems like a small thing but people vote as much on personality as policy.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at February 01, 2017 10:40 AM (RD7QR)

408 hopefully their board fires the ceo' s sorry ass

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 10:37 AM (IbBNa)

http://www.victorymotorcycles.com/en-us/1200cc

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 01, 2017 10:40 AM (rF0hx)

409 401
One of my ancestors was Lt. Col. Harrison C. Hobart, in command of the 21st Wisconsin at the Battle of Chickamauga, taken prisoner and sent to Libby prison in Virginia, and one of the leaders of the greatest prison break of the war.

ALMOST was Governor.

I think of him when Democrats tell me I owe reparations for slavery, or something.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 01, 2017 10:38 AM (V2Yro)

=================

"Totally doesn't make up for the fact that you're white. Why no, I'm not a racist. Why do you ask?"
-Very smart college student who's struggling with their core classes but acing that gender studies course

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:40 AM (ThL6N)

410 Real soldiers wear butternut.

Posted by: Jefferson Davis at February 01, 2017 10:34 AM

Caitlyn Jenner is almost a woman, butternut prevents it.

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:40 AM (1H9ox)

411

Senate leadership needs to play hardball

Lock them out of their offices, cyt their phones

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:41 AM (0D4kT)

412 If they don't show up and the nominations are approved they then get to say "The votes for nomination were only done by Republicans...This does not represent the American people."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 10:41 AM (fDdVG)

413 Biden announced that he is starting the Biden Foundation to continue all of his hard work on issues that matter to him. Violence against the womyynz is one issue he noted that he cares deeply about. What a maroon. I would feel violated if I was groped by plugs and forced to smell his breath of paste, gin, and cheetohs.

Posted by: Cheri at February 01, 2017 10:41 AM (TmVQX)

414 Someone with balls in Congress should propose a law for docking pay for every day they don't show up

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 10:42 AM (fDdVG)

415 Cut their phones

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:42 AM (0D4kT)

416 412 If they don't show up and the nominations are approved they then get to say "The votes for nomination were only done by Republicans...This does not represent the American people."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 10:41 AM (fDdVG)

=================

"Democrats knew when and where the votes were happening. It's not our fault they chose to not show up and represent the voices of their own constituents."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:42 AM (ThL6N)

417 Can we tunnel into some older low yielding coal mines, turn them into rockets, speed up the Earth's rotation and fling Al Gore into space.

Posted by: DaveA at February 01, 2017 10:40 AM (8J/Te)


That doesn't sound very scientifically doable, but we can sure try.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:42 AM (TOk1P)

418 That is it. If Trump can show that he can take away control of the crime problem, in places like Chicago, from dumb numnuts like Rahm Emmanuael,

What's happening in Chicago is tragic and unconscionable. And the female zombies march en masse with pink fuzzy hats in support of...what exactly?

Posted by: kallisto at February 01, 2017 10:42 AM (nNdYv)

419 Fen's Law

Liberals do not believe the things they complain about.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 01, 2017 10:42 AM (VdICR)

420

Take their pay, thats a good one

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:42 AM (0D4kT)

421 I think of him when Democrats tell me I owe reparations for slavery, or something.
Posted by: Tom Servo



Sign seen on Fb:

"I didn't own slaves. You didn't pick cotton. 'Nuff said."

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 10:43 AM (W2Fol)

422 Posted by: Cheri at February 01, 2017 10:41 AM (TmVQX)

So ole Joe is cashing in on the Foundation scam too. He learned well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 10:43 AM (fDdVG)

423

Who cares what they say

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:43 AM (0D4kT)

424 The left on the Judiciary committee are still ragging on Sessions and dragging this out.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:44 AM (SjImc)

425 Real soldiers wear butternut.

Posted by: Jefferson Davis at February 01, 2017 10:34 AM

Caitlyn Jenner is almost a woman, butternut prevents it.
Posted by: ajmojo




Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 10:44 AM (W2Fol)

426 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAxg8nuvPKM

The Call- The Walls Came Down

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 10:44 AM (y3aQB)

427 news @ drudge: peepholes found in interstate rest area mens' bathrooms


That peephole better be high up cuz if not,

it's getting rinsed out.


IYKWIMAISYD.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 01, 2017 10:44 AM (vZ9Fw)

428 Republican votes were just to get it out of the committee now it moves to full Senate.

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 10:45 AM (c6/9Q)

429 They just drone on and on. We get it, you don't like Sessions...VOTE

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:45 AM (SjImc)

430 I'm told to say Caitlyn Jenner is a woman, butternut's quash it.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 01, 2017 10:45 AM (+PEqr)

431 These fucks on Judiciary might be trying to invoke the 2 PM rule again.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:46 AM (SjImc)

432 >>Biden announced that he is starting the Biden Foundation to continue all of his hard work on issues that matter to him.

Like Biden staying in DC, schmoozing with donors and hanging with his long-time Senate pals?

I bet Dr. Jill wants this, too! Better than having him hang around the house skinny-dipping in front of the female Secret Service agents and groping the neighbors.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 10:46 AM (NOIQH)

433 If they don't show up and the nominations are approved they then get to
say "The votes for nomination were only done by Republicans...This does
not represent the American people."
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I wonder if anyone's reminded the dems how pointless obstructionism worked out for the during the early part of the Bush years?

Posted by: Methos at February 01, 2017 10:46 AM (3Liv/)

434 I've started reading about how battles were fought in ancient times. I think the word hoplite is Greek for 'free for all'.

Posted by: JTB at February 01, 2017 10:46 AM (V+03K)

435 I would be remiss if I didn't add that after Ol' Hobart escaped from Confederate prison and made his way back to Union Lines, he was reactivated in the Federal Army, and took an assignment as one of Sherman's staff officers on the March through Georgia.

The only thing I could imagine being that much fun today would be a March through California, with Mad Dog at the lead.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 01, 2017 10:47 AM (V2Yro)

436 As someone on here much more intelligent than me has already said today:"Keep f*ckin that chicken!"
Posted by: Publius Redux at February 01, 2017 10:33 AM


Ssqqqaaaaaaack!

Posted by: The Chicken at February 01, 2017 10:47 AM (DMUuz)

437 Friggin Instapundit with the "travel ban was rushed and not thought out" sob stories.Give it a fucking rest.

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 10:47 AM (r/0kC)

438 I keep jabbing pins into a cabbage patch doll that looks remarkably like RGB. Nothing. Any other suggestions?

Posted by: Under Fire at February 01, 2017 10:47 AM (6LwXe)

439 It appears that corporate cowardice is going to be a particular problem in straightening out our society.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 01, 2017 10:47 AM (oVJmc)

440 "These fucks on Judiciary might be trying to invoke the 2 PM rule again."

I hope a vote on suspending the rules is scheduled for 1:59.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 10:47 AM (97XyN)

441 One of my ancestors was Lt. Col. Harrison C. Hobart, in command of the 21st Wisconsin at the Battle of Chickamauga, taken prisoner and sent to Libby prison in Virginia, and one of the leaders of the greatest prison break of the war.

ALMOST was Governor.

I think of him when Democrats tell me I owe reparations for slavery, or something.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 01, 2017 10:38 AM (V2Yro)

=================

"Totally doesn't make up for the fact that you're white. Why no, I'm not a racist. Why do you ask?"
-Very smart college student who's struggling with their core classes but acing that gender studies course

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:40 AM (ThL6N)


My grandfather arrived from the old country (which old country? Yes, the old one) somewhere around 1912/1913. He barely got out. Went back over there as a member of the American armed forces, even though he spoke practically no English, and eventually got back over here, went to work and saved up his money.

About 10 years after he arrived here, he sent for his wife and eldest son.

So yeah... I don't owe anybody for the damnable sin of slavery.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:47 AM (TOk1P)

442 The Joe Biden Foundation For Kids Who Can't Read Good and Want To Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too? It has to be at least 3 times this size!

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 01, 2017 10:48 AM (+PEqr)

443 @408 Victory has announced end of production.
Owner will concentrate on their other brand, Indian.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 01, 2017 10:48 AM (H5rtT)

444 Someone with balls in Congress should propose a law for docking pay for every day they don't show up

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 10:42 AM


I think I spotted the tiny flaw in that plan.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 01, 2017 10:48 AM (p+Wdc)

445 353
It's a truly unjust world where Pat Leahy outlives Heath Ledger.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at February 01, 2017 10:30 AM (+PEqr)

It's a truly unjust world where Pat Leahy outlives Lemmy Kilmister.
Ace of Spades - Motorhead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iwC2QljLn4

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at February 01, 2017 10:48 AM (7N6ox)

446 Violence against the womyynz is one issue he noted that he cares deeply about.

Who said Uncle Joe was a dumass? Canny little bastid just gave him an excuse to hobnob with babes.

Posted by: kallisto at February 01, 2017 10:48 AM (nNdYv)

447 >>I wonder if anyone's reminded the dems how pointless obstructionism worked out for the during the early part of the Bush years?

The next few years are also going to be an abject demonstration to Democrats and even some Republicans of how little power a party has when they control almost nothing in government.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 10:49 AM (/tuJf)

448 >>...and took an assignment as one of Sherman's staff officers on the March through Georgia.

Oh, one of my relatives participated in Sherman's march, too (a great, great grandfather on my dad's side, I think).

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 10:49 AM (NOIQH)

449 You know, this is the only smart military blog that has mentioned Gath more that three times in a year.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 01, 2017 10:10 AM (6f7eA)


Who is John Gath?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 01, 2017 10:49 AM (8iiMU)

450 437 Friggin Instapundit with the "travel ban was rushed and not thought out" sob stories.Give it a fucking rest.
Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 10:47 AM (r/0kC)

==================

If you can't acknowledge that the Trump admin ever made any sort of mistake in any way, shape, or form, then you're going to be a very boring person for the next 4-8 years.

The story looks bad and plays negatively on a political level. Realizing that is a good way to understand the overall political picture. Ignoring it is a good way to build a bubble around yourself where you refuse to realize what works outside that bubble and what does not.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:49 AM (ThL6N)

451

Sgt at Arms should lock them in until they vote

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:49 AM (0D4kT)

452 The next few years are also going to be an abject demonstration to
Democrats and even some Republicans of how little power a party has when
they control almost nothing in government.
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Elections. Have. Consequences.

Posted by: Methos at February 01, 2017 10:50 AM (3Liv/)

453 CBD, I had to smile at that. If I was creating this painting as a modern piece, I would have Trump blowing the war horn while his administration people and fly over country voters march around Jericho's crumbling walls, revealing Schumer, Pelosi and the MFM buried in the rubble.

Hmmm! I either need moar coffee or shouldn't have had any this morning.

Posted by: JTB at February 01, 2017 10:27 AM (V+03K)


Heck, I'd have Trump driving a muscle car standing up, one-handed, with a shotgun or Mac 10 in his other hand.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at February 01, 2017 10:50 AM (tzoeb)

454 can Franken be recalled ??

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 10:51 AM (c6/9Q)

455 Friggin Instapundit with the "travel ban was rushed and not thought out" sob stories.Give it a fucking rest.

I think you mean Stephen Green on that one.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 10:51 AM (u0s1P)

456 373 Final confirmation or just out of committee?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at February 01, 2017 10:32 AM (d76uN)

Out of committee
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:33 AM (SjImc)

Send it straight to the floor. Invoke the rule if you have to. Sessions has work to do.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at February 01, 2017 10:51 AM (RD7QR)

457 437 Friggin Instapundit with the "travel ban was rushed and not thought out" sob stories.Give it a fucking rest.
Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 10:47 AM (r/0kC)

It's another NeverTrump talking point that was old almost as soon as it was uttered.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:51 AM (oi+1u)

458 SenOrrinHatch
01/02/17 10:11
Rather than accept anything less than their desired outcome, our Democrat colleagues chose to cower in the hallway.

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 10:52 AM (y3aQB)

459 454 can Franken be recalled ??
Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 10:51 AM (c6/9Q)

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No.

Members of Congress are not subject to recalls. SCOTUS says so.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:52 AM (ThL6N)

460 Franken is an asshole

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:52 AM (SjImc)

461 can Franken be recalled ??

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 10:51 AM (c6/9Q)

Unfortunately not. There is no mechanism for the states to recall their congressmen.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 01, 2017 10:52 AM (rF0hx)

462 Re: Sidebar article. I saw the clip of Orrin Hatch saying crap. I was like.. "did he just say crap?".. moar please!

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at February 01, 2017 10:52 AM (zRZaJ)

463 >>Rather than accept anything less than their desired outcome, our Democrat colleagues chose to cower in the hallway.


Heh. Now that's punching back - changing the rules AND mocking them!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 10:53 AM (NOIQH)

464
Lock them in

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:53 AM (0D4kT)

465 458 SenOrrinHatch
01/02/17 10:11
Rather than accept anything less than their desired outcome, our Democrat colleagues chose to cower in the hallway.
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 10:52 AM (y3aQB)

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Even Orrin Hatch may be losing faith in his Democratic colleagues to uphold the comity and augustness of the Senate.

Could lead to some fighting spirit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:53 AM (ThL6N)

466 There is no mechanism for the states to recall their congressmen.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 01, 2017 10:52 AM (rF0hx)

Not even if they are not funny ex comedians?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:53 AM (SjImc)

467 466 There is no mechanism for the states to recall their congressmen.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 01, 2017 10:52 AM (rF0hx)

Not even if they are not funny ex comedians?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:53 AM (SjImc)

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I'd forgotten that clause of the Constitution...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:54 AM (ThL6N)

468
If they don't show up and the nominations are approved they then get to
say "The votes for nomination were only done by Republicans...This does
not represent the American people."


See Obamacare

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 01, 2017 10:54 AM (IqV8l)

469 453
CBD, I had to smile at that. If I was creating this painting as a
modern piece, I would have Trump blowing the war horn Posted by: JTB at February 01, 2017 10:27 AM (V+03K)

I'd have Barron Trump in his school uniform (a la Angus Young) intently prying loose the gold fillings of the slain with a pair of pliers while Melania scourged the captured in a floss bikini.

Posted by: General Zod at February 01, 2017 10:54 AM (Bdeb0)

470 Tibetan Buddhists just built a temple on my boner.

Posted by: Fritz at February 01, 2017 10:54 AM (2Mnv1)

471 A very many Harley-Davidson riders are "poseurs". We're talking about suit n' tie professionals, who quit shaving on Thursday, so they can have a bit of a "badass" stubble for their ride to the waffle shoppe on Sunday.

Oooooohhhhh, scary!

I've always kept a quiet, wry amusement at them, redolent in their Halloween Biker togs, and riding only in the safety of a dozen or more of their kind, while they soak in the "intimidating-ness" of their own bad selves on their Fifty Mile Sunday Ride.

That said, it's exactly *those* who bought enough of the H-D product to not only keep 'em in business, but to majorly flourish, all through the desperate '80s, the yuppified '90s, and into the socially acceptable "bikers" of the New Century.

Coming full circle now, with this capitulation by the Harley-Davidson company, itself.

The factory is now the "poseur", and is doing damage to it's core image with this, their decision.

They'd be wise to retract, restate and re-invite, quickly, before this bites them in the ass. If it hasn't, already.

Otherwise, I see a whole lot of buying decisions going to Indian, Victory and other on-shore manufacturers. Not to mention a surge in the sales of the heavyweight import cruisers, many of which have learned how to be worthy competitors in the decreasingly jingoistic, biker's marketplace.

It's not the '80s or '90s anymore, no matter how nostalgic those days might be for the H-D factory.

Politics has evolved, and hardly ever as quickly as in the past 18 months. Bikers evolve, and import riders can often be found among the hardest of the 1%'ers.

People do have a tendency to go with "what works", regardless of source or origin.

Trumpism, seems to be working.

H-D's decision, is a non-starter. Which, H-D used to be known for, come to think about it.

"History doesn't necessarily repeat, but it does seem to rhyme."

Sure wish I knew to whom to attribute that quote, but there it is, and it fits.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 01, 2017 10:55 AM (v5iqM)

472 "Rather than accept anything less than their desired outcome, our Democrat colleagues chose to cower in the hallway."

That's not "cowering," it's "assuming the position!"

Posted by: Chuck Schumer at February 01, 2017 10:55 AM (97XyN)

473 If they don't show up and the nominations are approved they then get to
say "The votes for nomination were only done by Republicans...This does
not represent the American people."


Tough shit. They refused to show up and do their jobs, so we went on without them.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:55 AM (oi+1u)

474 When Sessions becomes the AG, the first thing I would do is go after franked for anything, just make something up and rake him over the coals

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:56 AM (SjImc)

475 I can't wait for the first SOTU address with Trump. If Dems boycott it Trump will call them out for ridicule. If they show up, he will ridicule them to their face if they keep up with their bullshit. Should be a hoot!

Posted by: Cheri at February 01, 2017 10:56 AM (TmVQX)

476 473
Tough shit. They refused to show up and do their jobs, so we went on without them.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 10:55 AM (oi+1u)

================

I prefer the, "They've abdicated voicing the concerns of their constituents on important matters in Congress. They do not deserve their seats and their constituents should take note."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:57 AM (ThL6N)

477 The story looks bad and plays negatively on a political level. Realizing that is a good way to understand the overall political picture. Ignoring it is a good way to build a bubble around yourself where you refuse to realize what works outside that bubble and what does not.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:49 AM (ThL6N)
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Personally, I think I would have waited until after all my confirmations to roll out the order. We'll see how it turns out. The protests over the weekend seem to have had SOME effect on the polls so there is evidence it didn't play well overall.

It should have been sold as, "We need to know who we let into the country BEFORE we let them in. This delay allows us to figure out how to do that."

On the other hand, I've been wrong about Trump's tactics repeatedly and will wait to see what happens. I think it was inartfully implemented but what do I know?

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:57 AM (xeeHA)

478 Franken is really going after Cruz and he's pissing off some of the Republicans on the committee. Who knew it would be Franken that would help bring Republicans around to Cruz's defense.

Can't wait to hear Cruz go back after this dolt.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 10:57 AM (/tuJf)

479 I thought I'd had an original thought. If the Democrats accusations, filibustering and general obstruction becomes a PR disaster it could be called a blusterf-ck. A bing search showed that Urban Dictionary already had it. Nothing. I've got nothing. Back to lurking.

Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at February 01, 2017 10:57 AM (OkKDg)

480 Unfortunately not. There is no mechanism for the states to recall their congressmen.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 01, 2017 10:52 AM (rF0hx)

Sad.

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 10:57 AM (c6/9Q)

481 477 On the other hand, I've been wrong about Trump's tactics repeatedly and will wait to see what happens. I think it was inartfully implemented but what do I know?
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:57 AM (xeeHA)

=================

It's not doubting Trump's ability or tactics to acknowledge that there are negative stories out there and bemoan their existence.

Ignoring them is a bad idea, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:58 AM (ThL6N)

482 Can't wait to hear Cruz go back after this dolt.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 10:57 AM (/tuJf)

Cruz is not there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:58 AM (SjImc)

483

Sounds like Franken has aspirations

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:58 AM (0D4kT)

484 My grandfather arrived from the old country (which old country? Yes, the old one) somewhere around 1912/1913. He barely got out. Went back over there as a member of the American armed forces, even though he spoke practically no English, and eventually got back over here, went to work and saved up his money.


About 10 years after he arrived here, he sent for his wife and eldest son.


So yeah... I don't owe anybody for the damnable sin of slavery.
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Mine came in 1914.

I live in Michigan.

Not Responsible.

However, I've been told that although Michigan is not a slave state, slaves were kept here and because "whitey" I owes dem people some rep-a-ray-shuns.

Bite.
Me.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 10:58 AM (J5mC3)

485 450 Yeah,talk about boring.Who would ever guess what your take what be.

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 10:59 AM (r/0kC)

486 482 Can't wait to hear Cruz go back after this dolt.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 10:57 AM (/tuJf)

Cruz is not there
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:58 AM (SjImc)

==================

Franken is a brave as Meryl Streep.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:59 AM (ThL6N)

487 >>Franken is really going after Cruz and he's pissing off some of the Republicans on the committee.

Can always count on the Dems to stab a fellow GOP Senator in the back.
They did this to Ashcroft, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 10:59 AM (NOIQH)

488 Rove looks like a sick manatee in a suit.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 01, 2017 10:59 AM (6LwXe)

489 Wouldn't Britain be the responsible party for any reparations since slavery in the Americas was started by them?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 01, 2017 10:59 AM (AC18V)

490 Sounds like Franken has aspirations
Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:58 AM (0D4kT)

You misspelled Asperges

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 10:59 AM (SjImc)

491 Iranians: doing the math American kids dont.

Most of the foreign students impacted the visa ban
are studying in STEM fields.

But with 94 million Americans not working and millions of college kids who cant find a job, surely there's some STEM jobs that could be available to Americans (without the H1B visa discount of course !)

A look at the subjects pursued by those 12,000 Iranian students shows that the ban could dramatically affect companies that rely on graduates with STEM degrees. More than three quarters of those students were working in STEM fields: 54 percent were studying engineering, 12 percent studied math or computer science, and 12 percent studied physical or life sciences.

Overall, about two thirds of international students pursue STEM degrees, compared with 48 percent of students born in the U.S.


http://tinyurl.com/h5jj68d

Posted by: McCool at February 01, 2017 10:59 AM (nCSwS)

492 On the other hand, I've been wrong about Trump's tactics repeatedly and will wait to see what happens. I think it was inartfully implemented but what do I know?
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:57 AM (xeeHA)

Maybe it was inartful - or, gasp, impolitic - but I think the pearl-clutching, wailing and gnashing of teeth that I'm seeing from certain parties is ridiculous.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 11:00 AM (oi+1u)

493 "Tibetan Buddhists just built a temple on my boner."

OK, now that's fuckin' funny.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 11:00 AM (97XyN)

494 can Franken be recalled ??
Posted by: runner
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Sure. I recall that he was a second-rate SNL stoner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 11:00 AM (ZO497)

495 It's not doubting Trump's ability or tactics to acknowledge that there are negative stories out there and bemoan their existence.

Ignoring them is a bad idea, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:58 AM (ThL6N)
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I think quickly and personally addressing them buys back a lot of any lost good will. Trump just says, "we are following stories where the EO was misapplied and are taking any steps necessary to reunite families wrongly separated."

No harm, no foul. And a few hours lost at an airport is not 'harm.'

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:00 AM (xeeHA)

496 Some local news - Chicago had over 300 shootings and 52 killed in January. Up over 2016 record numbers. The shootings aren't just happening on the south and west sides. Three people were shot Saturday morning in the heart of the Gold Coast. And what did Tiny Dancer do? He had some "Dreamers" to his house for dinner. Gee, I wonder why people are fleeing the city?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 01, 2017 10:36 AM (493sH)

Here in Baltimore we have had 32 murders in the first full 31 days of the year. Yay us! At this pace, we'll beat last year's record of 344 homicides. This in a city whose population has dipped to only 622,793 last year. Take that Chicago!

Posted by: Timon at February 01, 2017 11:00 AM (27k1O)

497
Reject the hair shirt. Fuck em. 109 people inconvenienced. Hundreds of millions have been inconvenienced since 911

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 11:00 AM (0D4kT)

498 Sure. I recall that he was a second-rate SNL stoner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 11:00 AM (ZO497)

was ?

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:00 AM (c6/9Q)

499 I'm a little late to the party- have we discussed Harley-Davidson yet?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 01, 2017 11:01 AM (mN+tK)

500 LOL while franken pontificates the Republicans on the committee are playing with their iPhones.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 11:01 AM (SjImc)

501 Overall, about two thirds of international students pursue STEM degrees, compared with 48 percent of students born in the U.S.

http://tinyurl.com/h5jj68d
Posted by: McCool at February 01, 2017 10:59 AM (nCSwS)
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In this regard, foreign students are wiser than ours.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:01 AM (xeeHA)

502 >>Cruz is not there

I know. But that doesn't mean he won't come back. Happens all the time in committee hearings.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 11:01 AM (/tuJf)

503

Shit Status: REAL.

GOP votes to suspend rules and call for a vote on Mnuchin and Price.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 01, 2017 11:01 AM (mbhDw)

504 489 Wouldn't Britain be the responsible party for any reparations since slavery in the Americas was started by them?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 01, 2017 10:59 AM (AC18V)

Whew! Off the hook!

Posted by: Spain at February 01, 2017 11:02 AM (7HtZB)

505 It's not doubting Trump's ability or tactics to acknowledge that there are negative stories out there and bemoan their existence.


Ignoring them is a bad idea, though.
---

Collectively, I think many of us are in a state of shock, going WTF? Is there nothing Trump cannot do? What is today, something like day 12? He's already met and exceeded my four year expectations.

Now... go to the other side.

This guy doesn't play by Republican Gentleman's Rules. They are clueless, which is why I think they are going collectively batsh*t crazy. Metaphorically, they're at the bus station and he's on the space shuttle.

I would not be surprised if there is rioting and the National Guard has to be called out. I happened in Detroit in the late 1960's. However, I'm hoping that this protest thing will eventually burn itself out.

/or we can hurry it up and put George Soros in jail.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:02 AM (J5mC3)

506 Maybe it was inartful - or, gasp, impolitic - but I think the pearl-clutching, wailing and gnashing of teeth that I'm seeing from certain parties is ridiculous.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 11:00 AM (oi+1u)
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I don't disagree with you.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:02 AM (xeeHA)

507 >>Here in Baltimore we have had 32 murders in the
first full 31 days of the year. Yay us! Posted by: Timon at February 01, 2017 11:00 AM (27k1O)

Ballmer: Formstone, curlas, and death.

Posted by: General Zod at February 01, 2017 11:02 AM (Bdeb0)

508
I will pay attention to their inconvenience when they stop putting bombs in shoes, undergarments and their babys bottles

Depraved

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 11:03 AM (0D4kT)

509 Funny, according to a poll, 57% approved of Trumps "immigration freeze".

I see we have some already going wobbly. Jaysus. Nut up or shut up already.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at February 01, 2017 11:03 AM (0x/TW)

510 "Wouldn't Britain be the responsible party for any reparations since slavery in the Americas was started by them?"

Why shouldn't the bill go to the African Muslims who sold the slaves to Americans? After all, they're the ones who enslaved people.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 11:03 AM (97XyN)

511 Whew! Off the hook!
Posted by: Spain at February 01, 2017 11:02 AM (7HtZB)

*sneaks out of room while others are arguing*

Posted by: The Dutch at February 01, 2017 11:03 AM (xeeHA)

512 For joncelli-if he's still l on the website

Hello, Brother-I endorse what other people said about you contacting your doctor right away if you anti depressant is causing you to have suicidal thoughts. That is very bad. Thees intrusive thoughts may only get worse. I can only assure you-and you know this when thoughts are logical-that are numerous people who would be devastated if you acted on those thoughts.

In addition, today is a Holy Day in the Orthodox church-unless the particular church is celebrating it another day. It is the presentation of Jesus and Mary and the temple-40 days after the celebration of his birth. I know you hesitate to go there but you might find the sung prayers and chanting soothing and healing as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 11:04 AM (fDdVG)

513 I guess if there's a labor shortage in STEM, the ones you have will get paid more and more people will go into those fields for the pay.

It really isn't hard.

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 01, 2017 11:04 AM (Pxqnw)

514 510 "Wouldn't Britain be the responsible party for any reparations since slavery in the Americas was started by them?"

Why shouldn't the bill go to the African Muslims who sold the slaves to Americans? After all, they're the ones who enslaved people.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 11:03 AM (97XyN)

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What other countries supplied slaves before importing slaves became illegal?

I'm guessing Spain.

Why not sue Spain?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:04 AM (ThL6N)

515 I see we have some already going wobbly. Jaysus. Nut up or shut up already.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at February 01, 2017 11:03 AM (0x/TW)
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Just for the record: Everything Trump does is exactly perfect and 100% wise. That's the official position, right? Or am I missing some nuance?

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:05 AM (xeeHA)

516 Regarding STEM fields, it probably hasn't helped matters that young American men, who are the ones that typically go into those fields are being increasingly squeezed out academically.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 11:05 AM (oi+1u)

517 Last?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 01, 2017 11:05 AM (mN+tK)

518 I'm from NY.

Lost family in the Civil War.

I want reparations from the people they liberated.

Posted by: garrett at February 01, 2017 11:05 AM (PPu+l)

519 Look at the magnificent nation of Brazil we built with our slaves! We even have a HUGE Jesus! The slaves love Him!

Posted by: Portugal at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (7N6ox)

520 Didn't African tribes take captives from their own rivals and than sell them to the slave traders?Pretty sure there was no need for white men to go into Africa and capture anyone,as depicted in Roots.

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (r/0kC)

521 Why not sue Spain?

Works for me. Good luck collecting from their broke asses, though.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (97XyN)

522 I'm guessing Spain.

Why not sue Spain?


Yeah, sue Spain. They're awful. Almost Hitlerian.

Posted by: Portugal at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (u0s1P)

523 Maybe it was inartful - or, gasp, impolitic - but I think the pearl-clutching, wailing and gnashing of teeth that I'm seeing from certain parties is ridiculous.
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Political Histrionics.

As in "Histrionic Personality Disorder."

Look it up. Describes what's going on to a "T."

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (J5mC3)

524 Each army tried surprise attacks at night, but when the dust settled, they would realize that they shot as many of their own men as they shot of the opposing army whenever they tried that.

Been there, done that, brah.

Posted by: Stonewall Jackson at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (X6fMO)

525 Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:05 AM (xeeHA)

Who thinks that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (fDdVG)

526 Cruz just showed up SMILING

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (SjImc)

527 And there's Cruz.

popcorn time

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 11:07 AM (/tuJf)

528 I keep jabbing pins into a cabbage patch doll that looks remarkably like RGB. Nothing. Any other suggestions?
Posted by: Under Fire

You realize that's actually been Steven Hawking in drag for the last year and a half, right?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 01, 2017 11:07 AM (V1M8q)

529 522 Yeah, sue Spain. They're awful. Almost Hitlerian.
Posted by: Portugal at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (u0s1P)

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"Leave us out of it, though."
-Catalonia

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:07 AM (ThL6N)

530 483 Sounds like Franken has aspirations
Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 10:58 AM (0D4kT)
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Are you talking about butt sweat?

Posted by: Young Ted Cruz at February 01, 2017 11:07 AM (BDZWU)

531 Robert Jackson (the judge that precede Scalia) who was mentioned by Gorsuch was a chief US prosecutor at Nuremberg.

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:07 AM (c6/9Q)

532

They strap bombs to women holding babies and little gis


So fuck your inconvenience

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 11:07 AM (0D4kT)

533 @489 I was taught there was no slavery in Georgia before independence.
If you think about that for a moment, you'll realize why.

In this regard, foreign students are wiser than ours.

Posted by: Moron Pundit

The foreign students do not have a choice of academic major.
Since the early 60's, "our" universities have been staffing the armories of our enemies, at tremendous profit to themselves. This is the actual treason.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 01, 2017 11:07 AM (H5rtT)

534 Cruz just showed up SMILING
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (SjImc)

With a coffee that does not look like a Starbucks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 11:07 AM (SjImc)

535 >>Reject the hair shirt. Fuck em. 109 people inconvenienced. Hundreds of millions have been inconvenienced since 911


Heck, I bet more travelers were inconvenienced last weekend by the protests.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 11:07 AM (NOIQH)

536 >>If they don't show up and the nominations are approved they then get to
say "The votes for nomination were only done by Republicans...This does
not represent the American people."

I think this is what they want to have happen.

I think they like that the nuclear option will be used against them.

Everybody looks good for their constituents!

Win-win, congressional style.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 01, 2017 11:08 AM (gTQoY)

537 I keep jabbing pins into a cabbage patch doll that looks remarkably like RGB. Nothing. Any other suggestions?
Posted by: Under Fire at February 01, 2017 10:47 AM


Dude. You have to use the right name. It's Notorious RGB.

Posted by: Dr. Fred M'gobo at February 01, 2017 11:08 AM (DMUuz)

538 OT:

Does anyone know the earliest that the judiciary committee will take up Gorsuch's nomination?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:08 AM (ThL6N)

539 I just finished wathcing Sneaky Pete. It was good original content. They also had a one episode preview of Jean Claude van Johnson that cracked me up.
Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 10:17 AM (1H9ox)

I've been lucky and Amazon survey's me on some of their new shows. I liked the pilot for Sneaky Pete and gave it a thumbs up. The series though ended up being kind of meh. Ended up not liking any of the characters that well.

The HBO'ization of shows annoys me. Lot's a swearing and nudity does not a quality show make.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at February 01, 2017 11:08 AM (J70i0)

540 535 >>Reject the hair shirt. Fuck em. 109 people inconvenienced. Hundreds of millions have been inconvenienced since 911


Heck, I bet more travelers were inconvenienced last weekend by the protests.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 11:07 AM (NOIQH)

Not to mention the TSA gropers.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 11:09 AM (oi+1u)

541 Ugh. Little girls

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 11:09 AM (0D4kT)

542 Didn't African tribes take captives from their own rivals and than sell them to the slave traders?Pretty sure there was no need for white men to go into Africa and capture anyone,as depicted in Roots.

I dunno about *never*, but yeah, POW-slavery is ancient. The Greeks, Romans... Basically everyone in the ancient world AFAIK.

Including Africans, because wow there were a lot of hostile tribes. The difference was when Europeans made it hereditary, permanent (i.e. no buying your freedom), and extra-dangerous and degrading.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 11:09 AM (u0s1P)

543 The Amazon pilot I really liked was Patriot. Can't wait for the series.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 01, 2017 11:10 AM (U6f54)

544 Depends on what kind of nudity.Hot chicks?Good.Floppy weiners?Very bad.

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 11:10 AM (r/0kC)

545 The HBO'ization of shows annoys me. Lot's a swearing and nudity does not a quality show make.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at February 01, 2017 11:08 AM (J70i0)

Just wait until you see what we do with Sesame street!

Posted by: HBO at February 01, 2017 11:10 AM (7HtZB)

546 franken is attacking everyone in the Trump Admin? What the fuck does that have to do with Sessions?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 11:10 AM (SjImc)

547 Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:05 AM (xeeHA)

Who thinks that?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (fDdVG)
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Honestly, I think no one.

But it does appear that, for some, simply questioning the wisdom of some of Trump's tactical decisions is "going wobbly."

I personally support him and the immigration EO 100%.

But I don't think the delivery was as effective as it could have been. I can simultaneously believe that AND that the reaction from the Left and GOPe was outrageously outrageous.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:10 AM (xeeHA)

548 >>Lot's a swearing and nudity does not a quality show make.


Depends on who is getting naked.

Posted by: garrett at February 01, 2017 11:11 AM (PPu+l)

549 Harley Davidson cancelled an upcoming factory visit by President Trump out of fears of negative publicity. They're in Milwaukee which is run by a Dem machine and full of SJWs.

OK, then.

Guess I don't need to buy a Harley ever again.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 01, 2017 11:11 AM (X6fMO)

550 Really stupid move by HD. You know those huge groups of motorcycle riders that showed up at Trump rallies and at the inauguration? They are not in the least intimidated by protestors and will be pissed at this pussy move. Stupid.

Posted by: Cheri at February 01, 2017 11:11 AM (TmVQX)

551

We have been inconvenienced for 16 years

Posted by: ThunderB at February 01, 2017 11:11 AM (0D4kT)

552 509
Funny, according to a poll, 57% approved of Trumps "immigration freeze".



I see we have some already going wobbly. Jaysus. Nut up or shut up already.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at February 01, 2017 11:03 AM (0x/TW)

______________________________________
Agreed - polls - even the usual lefty over sampled dem/big city ones show that most people want this "ban" - and, frankly the ones who don't already live in NY and California ( NYC- LA) so any person on the right side of the aisle who is going "wobbly" on this has not been paying attention - they will, however, learn when elections come up in 2018 and 2020.
#and this is how you got a Republican senate superiority in 2018 and Trump again in 2020 (and probably Pence in 2024)

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 01, 2017 11:11 AM (Fb9aZ)

553 >> Little girls


And, thank Heaven for them.

Posted by: Zombie Maurice Chevalier at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (PPu+l)

554 Now the failed comic is laughing yates?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (SjImc)

555 Didn't African tribes take captives from their own rivals and than sell them to the slave traders?Pretty sure there was no need for white men to go into Africa and capture anyone,as depicted in Roots.
Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (r/0kC)

Arabs and other Africans did the slave collecting. The traders just showed up at the coastal towns and purchased.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (J70i0)

556 LOL CNN.

Liars and liars of factcheckers.

Posted by: Jingo Unchained! at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (VFhMt)

557 Franken is really going after Cruz and he's pissing off some of the Republicans on the committee. Who knew it would be Franken that would help bring Republicans around to Cruz's defense.

Al's still sore after the beating Ted gave him a few weeks ago. Today's his chance for a, "jerk store ran out of you" comeback.
What a thin-skinned, little turd he is.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (B6OKy)

558 The foreign students do not have a choice of academic major.
Since the early 60's, "our" universities have been staffing the armories of our enemies, at tremendous profit to themselves. This is the actual treason.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 01, 2017 11:07 AM (H5rtT)
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I personally don't believe anyone receiving financial aid should be able to pick their major. They should be presented a list of majors that represent the needs of the country at the time. If you want to major in art history, you pay for it your damned self.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (xeeHA)

559 >>Does anyone know the earliest that the judiciary committee will take up Gorsuch's nomination?

Heard talk that they want to get it done by early April before the Easter break so that Gorsuch can hear cases during the Spring session.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (/tuJf)

560 "#and this is how you got a Republican senate superiority in 2018 and Trump again in 2020 (and probably Pence in 2024)"

If Trump can defeat the GOPe, 2018 will be a Republican blow-out.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 11:13 AM (97XyN)

561 >>But I don't think the delivery was as effective as it could have been.

It doesn't seem like it. But there may have been security reasons to rush it.

Everyone, on all sides, seems to only be looking at the political aspects of it.

It's a security issue! Perhaps that's how it should be judged.

Not fussing at you, or anyone in particular, just grumping about the overall focus.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 01, 2017 11:13 AM (gTQoY)

562 Jerome Corsi
@jerome_corsi
18h
I resigned from WND on Monday & began working w INFOWARS today TUES Jan. 31. Application for credentials emailed today, per WH instructions twitter.com/cwarzel/status


Interesting. Very interesting maneuver on the right side of the investigative journalism front

Ok off to play outside, detach, and decompress. Y'all have fun and be good.

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at February 01, 2017 11:13 AM (O6j88)

563 So he went to pre-Obama levels. To this historical norm.

Wait until Trump can deliver some positive changes to the country overall and the black community in general.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 10:28 AM (ThL6N)


Not just pre-Obama. Pre GWB, pre Clinton. Bob Dole pulled 2% of the black vote.

Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 11:13 AM (tewYv)

564 519 Look at the magnificent nation of Brazil we built with our slaves! We even have a HUGE Jesus! The slaves love Him!
Posted by: Portugal at February 01, 2017 11:06 AM (7N6ox)

The Left loves to say that our economic success was due to slavery. Brazil had slavery from the 16th Century until the late 19th (after our Civil War), and slaves made up the majority of the country's population. Shouldn't Brazil therefore be the richest nation in history?

Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 11:13 AM (7HtZB)

565 Oh no, Sessions lost the all important Al Franken vote.

Posted by: E Pluribus Juan at February 01, 2017 11:13 AM (ZFUt7)

566
Everybody looks good for their constituents!

Win-win, congressional style.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 01, 2017 11:08 AM (gTQoY)

The thing is the Dems are sorely lacking in constituents these days. Playing to the choir will solidify the allegiance of those who already vote for them, but will not win anybody else over.

That's not how you get Congress back.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 11:13 AM (ZM2xo)

567 Straight party line vote...what a farce

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 11:14 AM (SjImc)

568 Approved on party lines. Of course.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 11:14 AM (/tuJf)

569 559 >>Does anyone know the earliest that the judiciary committee will take up Gorsuch's nomination?

Heard talk that they want to get it done by early April before the Easter break so that Gorsuch can hear cases during the Spring session.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (/tuJf)

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Damn...I'm just so impatient.

Trump has ruined me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:14 AM (ThL6N)

570 pink scrunts there also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 11:14 AM (SjImc)

571 If you want to learn about the Slave Trade, I would advise a field trip to Northern Africa and the Middle East.

Go check out the sights, buy a slave and learn all about the process the old fashioned way.

Posted by: garrett at February 01, 2017 11:14 AM (PPu+l)

572 Aaaand there's a Code Pink protester.
How do they get in there so often, I wonder....

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 11:14 AM (NOIQH)

573 Sessions approved.

Posted by: WisRich at February 01, 2017 11:14 AM (hdpay)

574 Including Africans, because wow there were a lot of
hostile tribes. The difference was when Europeans made it hereditary,
permanent (i.e. no buying your freedom), and extra-dangerous and
degrading.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 01, 2017 11:09 AM (u0s1P)

Muslims gave us chattel slavery, buying and selling slaves as property was an Islamic innovation.

Posted by: Portugal at February 01, 2017 11:15 AM (7N6ox)

575 It doesn't seem like it. But there may have been security reasons to rush it.

Everyone, on all sides, seems to only be looking at the political aspects of it.

It's a security issue! Perhaps that's how it should be judged.

Not fussing at you, or anyone in particular, just grumping about the overall focus.
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 01, 2017 11:13 AM (gTQoY)

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I agree. I don't know enough to condemn it in any regard and I agree with the meat of it on security/policy. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some chatter that led to the timing.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:15 AM (xeeHA)

576 Whew! Off the hook!
Posted by: Spain at February 01, 2017 11:02 AM (7HtZB)

*sneaks out of room while others are arguing*

Posted by: The Dutch at February 01, 2017 11:03 AM (xeeHA)
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Never concerned at all.

Posted by: Den Danes at February 01, 2017 11:15 AM (SsblQ)

577 Gorsuch is the ultimate example of why NeverTrump was such a stupid and selfish stunt.

From the very beginning, Trump had laid out the people he was going to nominate and he did.

yet there's still "conservatives" that think a President Hillary would have been better for this country.

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:15 AM (qRZ4c)

578 566
The thing is the Dems are sorely lacking in constituents these days. Playing to the choir will solidify the allegiance of those who already vote for them, but will not win anybody else over.

That's not how you get Congress back.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 11:13 AM (ZM2xo)

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I don't think that red state Democrats are looking particularly good to their constituents right now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:15 AM (ThL6N)

579 I think Cruz would TKO frankin in 2...I'd say 1 but frankin is probably a dirty bastard and would go for the gonads

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 11:15 AM (SjImc)

580
My boyfriend is back and you're gonna be in trouble, hey la hey la my boyfriend is back.

Posted by: Lady Liberty at February 01, 2017 11:15 AM (ODxAs)

581 I think the Harley thing and the Bud thing are of a kind- how many SJWs ride Harleys and drink Bud? (Or watch NFL football for that matter). The question then is- why are they more afraid of the SJWs than their customers, and how can we change that?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 01, 2017 11:15 AM (mN+tK)

582 558 The foreign students do not have a choice of academic major.
Since the early 60's, "our" universities have been staffing the armories of our enemies, at tremendous profit to themselves. This is the actual treason.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 01, 2017 11:07 AM (H5rtT)
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I personally don't believe anyone receiving financial aid should be able to pick their major. They should be presented a list of majors that represent the needs of the country at the time. If you want to major in art history, you pay for it your damned self.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (xeeHA)

Oh I love this.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 01, 2017 11:16 AM (WuRdh)

583 Leahy and feinstein talking---what a revolting picture

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 11:16 AM (SjImc)

584 577 Gorsuch is the ultimate example of why NeverTrump was such a stupid and selfish stunt.

From the very beginning, Trump had laid out the people he was going to nominate and he did.

yet there's still "conservatives" that think a President Hillary would have been better for this country.
Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:15 AM (qRZ4c)

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That battle is over and won. Win graciously and move on. There are other battles to be had.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:16 AM (ThL6N)

585 577 Remember "confirm Merrick Garland,he's not that bad and Hillary will pick worse.We know she is going to win in a landslide!"

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 11:17 AM (r/0kC)

586 InfoWars is an Alex Jones outlet. Why is that significant ?

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:17 AM (c6/9Q)

587 The Left loves to say that our economic success was
due to slavery. Brazil had slavery from the 16th Century until the late
19th (after our Civil War), and slaves made up the majority of the
country's population. Shouldn't Brazil therefore be the richest nation
in history?

Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 11:13 AM (7HtZB)

Did you miss our amazing Olympic Games? We, Brazilians are a global powerhouse!

Posted by: Portugal's Legacy at February 01, 2017 11:17 AM (7N6ox)

588 One of my ancestors was a signatory of the Mayflower Compact so I gues this is all my fault. However, since I'm broke, good luck with the reparations.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 01, 2017 11:17 AM (kTF2Z)

589 "Muslims gave us chattel slavery, buying and selling slaves as property was an Islamic innovation."

They didn't actually invent zero, but their claim to development of the Clap-On is unassailable.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 11:17 AM (97XyN)

590 582 I personally don't believe anyone receiving financial aid should be able to pick their major. They should be presented a list of majors that represent the needs of the country at the time. If you want to major in art history, you pay for it your damned self.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (xeeHA)

Oh I love this.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 01, 2017 11:16 AM (WuRdh)

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I don't like the central planning flavor of it, personally.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:17 AM (ThL6N)

591 @558 Sure, the sooner "we" end all government financial aid, the better.
But I hear this a lot from "engineers" who got big government scholarships to state universities, and are very, very obviously compensating. Nobody's more patriotic than a socialist, I have found.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 01, 2017 11:17 AM (H5rtT)

592 yet there's still "conservatives" that think a President Hillary would have been better for this country.
Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:15 AM (qRZ4c)

yeah but most of them are chemistry assit.professors

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 01, 2017 11:18 AM (SjImc)

593 Senate committee approves Trump Treasury, Health nominees without Dems present after GOP changes panel's rules.

Yo, Dems. Ask the Russians how that boycott stuff worked when the Korean War broke out.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at February 01, 2017 11:18 AM (eRbei)

594 550
Really stupid move by HD. You know those huge groups of motorcycle
riders that showed up at Trump rallies and at the inauguration? They
are not in the least intimidated by protestors and will be pissed at
this pussy move. Stupid.

Posted by: Cheri at February 01, 2017 11:11 AM (TmVQX)

And those motorcycle riders aren't showing up on Yamahas.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 01, 2017 11:18 AM (jxbfJ)

595 Jerome Corsi
@jerome_corsi
18h
I resigned from WND on Monday began working w INFOWARS today TUES Jan. 31. Application for credentials emailed today, per WH instructions twitter.com/cwarzel/status


Interesting. Very interesting maneuver on the right side of the investigative journalism front
---

Corsi seems to be an upfront guy. I say give him a chance. Same with Infowars. I skim their site regularly, and I'd say they're more accurate than CNN.

As for CNN... give Corsi their seat at press conferences.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:18 AM (J5mC3)

596 On the other hand, I've been wrong about Trump's tactics repeatedly and will wait to see what happens. I think it was inartfully implemented but what do I know?
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 10:57 AM (xeeHA)

You're quoting polls around here? No one cares about what the polls say because they are part of the MSM. But the last poll I saw was 49-41 for the order.

There is no possible way the order could have been implemented that wouldn't have had the same results. The Left is deranged. Worrying about what they think or how they'll react is counterproductive. We want them worrying about what we are going to do to them next.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at February 01, 2017 11:19 AM (J70i0)

597 I am directly related to one of the lawyers who defended the Amistad slaves. I don't think he got paid. I'm owed something from all of the ancestors of those freed slaves. Pony up people.

Posted by: Timon at February 01, 2017 11:19 AM (27k1O)

598 I think the Left is keeping their powder dry for the next SC appointment. As much as I love the Gorsuch nomination, he doesn't really change the intellectual, such as it is, balance of the court. If someone retires or dies, the next appointment is going to be an absolute circus.

Posted by: no good deed at February 01, 2017 11:19 AM (hJamr)

599 Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 01, 2017 11:17 AM (kTF2Z)

So was one of mine. Not one of the Pilgrims though. He just came over as an indentured servant.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 11:19 AM (fDdVG)

600 The Left is melting down because, up until now, they were confident that they made the rules.

Trump, and a lot of other people to boot, are challenging that and there is no one at the top to apply pressure to reassert their power to control the debate.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 01, 2017 11:20 AM (oVJmc)

601 596 There is no possible way the order could have been implemented that wouldn't have had the same results. The Left is deranged. Worrying about what they think or how they'll react is counterproductive. We want them worrying about what we are going to do to them next.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at February 01, 2017 11:19 AM (J70i0)

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It is possible to say, however, that this particular story of an Iraqi boy being kept apart from his parents while he needs major surgery could have been avoided with a better roll out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:20 AM (ThL6N)

602 >> The question then is- why are they more afraid of the SJWs than their customers, and how can we change that?

They are louder.


But we buy more.

See Target's stock prices, posted above or in last thread.

They are in an echo chamber and think everyone will agree with them...til we stop buying their stuff. Just gotta keep applying the pressure.

Wonder how Kellogg's is doing...

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 01, 2017 11:20 AM (gTQoY)

603 Shouldn't Brazil therefore be the richest nation
in history?

Posted by: josephistan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XpWOBEZLEs

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 01, 2017 11:20 AM (H5rtT)

604 I personally don't believe anyone receiving financial aid should be able to pick their major. They should be presented a list of majors that represent the needs of the country at the time. If you want to major in art history, you pay for it your damned self.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (xeeHA)


Agree, but that won't fly because Vets.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 11:20 AM (Pd7Sl)

605 We, Brazilians are a global powerhouse!
Posted by: Portugal's Legacy at February 01, 2017 11:17 AM


And that's the bare truth!

Posted by: Brazilian Hardwood Producers Association at February 01, 2017 11:20 AM (DMUuz)

606 I think the Harley thing and the Bud thing are of a kind- how many SJWs ride Harleys and drink Bud? (Or watch NFL football for that matter). The question then is- why are they more afraid of the SJWs than their customers, and how can we change that?
Posted by: Farmer Bob

_______



Our side is lazy/sane/employed and just refuses to really mobilize over small issues. We also have a media that can block any boycott, whereas the MSM loves to trumpet liberal boycotts and show all the Hollywood actors involved, etc.

Also, the much bigger problem is all of these big ad agencies are usually in "blue" cities like San Fran, NYC, LA, etc. And I would wager 90% of people in PR are dyed in the wool liberals.

It's a sea change from the idea that Big Corporations are dens of right wingers, it couldn't be further from the truth

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:21 AM (qRZ4c)

607 EO to limit H1B visas to be signed today.
*squirt*

Posted by: Under Fire at February 01, 2017 11:21 AM (6LwXe)

608 I personally don't believe anyone receiving financial aid should be able to pick their major. They should be presented a list of majors that represent the needs of the country at the time. If you want to major in art history, you pay for it your damned self.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (xeeHA)

Oh I love this.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 01, 2017 11:16 AM (WuRdh)

=================

I don't like the central planning flavor of it, personally.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison




As was said, you're free to pay for it all on your own.

I didn't like the rules the state put on us when I was a prison guard and lived in the BOQ. Their dime, their rules.
I had every right to move out and pay for an apartment on my own.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 11:21 AM (W2Fol)

609 Hatch changed the rules of the finance committee this morning, eliminating the need for at least 1 person from the minority to be present. They approved both Mnuchin and Price.

Repub's are finally getting it: The Dem's are playing for keeps and they need to respond accordingly.

Posted by: WisRich at February 01, 2017 10:02 AM (hdpay)

Cruz this morning on F&F , after hearing the quote from Hatch yesterday that the Democrat's "crap" etc. was a full on rip of expletives from Hatch, the likes of which Cruz hadn't heard from Hatch ever. He was laughing while he said it.

Said they have a basketball game going on this afternoon, LOL.

Posted by: Jen at February 01, 2017 11:21 AM (z0fov)

610 Did Sessions get voted out of committee yet? I can't get any live streams to actually stream. Damn clouds anyway.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at February 01, 2017 11:21 AM (d76uN)

611 They didn't actually invent zero, but their claim to development of the Clap-On is unassailable.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 11:17 AM (97XyN)

Okay, maybe we borrowed zero from India, and found a couple papyrus from Egypt that had some bizarre mathematical computations, we called it Algebra, because that means, we know it is math, but have no idea what it means.

Posted by: MOOSLIM SCIENCE! at February 01, 2017 11:21 AM (7N6ox)

612 Corsi did great with the Swift Boat Vets but went a little weird with the birth certificate stuff iirc.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 11:21 AM (o+R4H)

613 I personally don't believe anyone receiving financial aid should be able to pick their major. They should be presented a list of majors that represent the needs of the country at the time. If you want to major in art history, you pay for it your damned self.


Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (xeeHA)


Oh I love this.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 01, 2017 11:16 AM (WuRdh)


=================


I don't like the central planning flavor of it, personally.
---

A different take on it: if you get financial aid, you're presented with a list of majors that are needed in the country. If you choose to study outside of those majors, you student loan interest rates are somewhat higher.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:21 AM (J5mC3)

614 581
I think the Harley thing and the Bud thing are of a kind- how many SJWs
ride Harleys and drink Bud? (Or watch NFL football for that matter). The
question then is- why are they more afraid of the SJWs than their
customers, and how can we change that?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 01, 2017 11:15 AM (mN+tK)

How to change it? Easy. Stop buying their product. Period. And incessantly remind these companies that you will buy their competitors products.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 01, 2017 11:22 AM (jxbfJ)

615 608 As was said, you're free to pay for it all on your own.

I didn't like the rules the state put on us when I was a prison guard and lived in the BOQ. Their dime, their rules.
I had every right to move out and pay for an apartment on my own.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 11:21 AM (W2Fol)

===============

But still, the plan has government picking winners and losers. It's an invitation to rent seeking, and we all know how well that works out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:22 AM (ThL6N)

616 If this dem stupid continues we will see Dick Durbin as minority leader in no time.

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:23 AM (c6/9Q)

617 613 A different take on it: if you get financial aid, you're presented with a list of majors that are needed in the country. If you choose to study outside of those majors, you student loan interest rates are somewhat higher.
Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:21 AM (J5mC3)

================

Who creates that list?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:23 AM (ThL6N)

618 I personally don't believe anyone receiving financial aid should be able to pick their major. They should be presented a list of majors that represent the needs of the country at the time. If you want to major in art history, you pay for it your damned self.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:12 AM (xeeHA)

Simply tailor financial aid to the expected income of the major. You're getting a mechanical engineering degree, here's your $5K. Art Major, here's your $1.50.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at February 01, 2017 11:23 AM (J70i0)

619 The Left loves to say that our economic success was
due to slavery. Brazil had slavery from the 16th Century until the late
19th (after our Civil War), and slaves made up the majority of the
country's population. Shouldn't Brazil therefore be the richest nation
in history?

Posted by: josephistan at February 01, 2017 11:13 AM (7HtZB)
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The U.S. ended slavery with a major war which kick-started industrialization and national economic integration; Brazil ended slavery politically and received no developmental boost from doing so. /

Posted by: RioBravo at February 01, 2017 11:23 AM (SsblQ)

620 As was said, you're free to pay for it all on your own.

I didn't like the rules the state put on us when I was a prison guard and lived in the BOQ. Their dime, their rules.

I had every right to move out and pay for an apartment on my own.


Bingo ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 01, 2017 11:23 AM (1ZlS3)

621 Agree, but that won't fly because Vets.




That can be addressed thru the GI Bill.
Snowflakes don't like it, snowflakes can sign up.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 11:23 AM (W2Fol)

622 Bam. And just like that Republicans change the quorum rules so Democrats don't need to be present and Price and Mnuchin move to the senate for a vote.

The adults are back in charge.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 01, 2017 11:23 AM (llUHc)

623 I've had a lot of motorcycles, but never could afford a Harley. Now that I can, I guess I'll get an Indian Chief.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 01, 2017 11:23 AM (mN+tK)

624 616 If this dem stupid continues we will see Dick Durbin as minority leader in no time.
Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:23 AM (c6/9Q)

==================

Taking the idea seriously: How does that play out?

Schumer gets defeated in an election? Schumer steps down as leader?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:24 AM (ThL6N)

625 Gorsuch goes before in the Senate in six weeks.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 01, 2017 11:24 AM (4ErVI)

626 Harley owners who don't like this need to make HD kmow,bigly.

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 11:24 AM (r/0kC)

627 My friends, we have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House

Posted by: John McCain at February 01, 2017 11:24 AM (DpOmP)

628 Trump's alpha-ness is so powerful and pervasive, it even gave Orrin Hatch second-hand balls. That's some good shit right there.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 01, 2017 11:24 AM (oZ6kz)

629 But still, the plan has government picking winners and losers.



The government picks winners and losers every day when there are strings to the money doled out.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 11:25 AM (W2Fol)

630 That battle is over and won. Win graciously and move on. There are other battles to be had.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

_________

I don't think it's "won" at all, most of the conservative "intelligentsia" is still firmly in the NeverTrump camp and just waits for any small issue to jump on board and say "see, we should have made sure he lost!!!" with things like the visa pause because a few people got hung up in an airport.

These people need to be discredited.

Just browse around Twitter and look at what people are saying that I used to think were on our side.

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:25 AM (qRZ4c)

631
Pretty sure there was no need for white men to go into Africa and capture anyone,as depicted in Roots.
Posted by: steevy


You mean to tell me that Roots was historically inaccurate?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 01, 2017 11:25 AM (IqV8l)

632 we Brits stopped slavery in our "South" (Jamaica, Barbados, etc) without a bloody war, and industrialisation went fine for us.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 11:25 AM (o+R4H)

633 I think the Left is keeping their powder dry for the next SC appointment. As much as I love the Gorsuch nomination, he doesn't really change the intellectual, such as it is, balance of the court. If someone retires or dies, the next appointment is going to be an absolute circus.
Posted by: no good deed at February 01, 2017 11:19 AM (hJamr

If that's the case, then having a liberal dunce replace Scalia shouldn't have been a big deal.

This will put the court back to a 5-4 majority. And yes, I agree we need a 6-7 majority to overcome the two court idiots, Kagan and Sotomayor. And the 'consult the 8 ball" Roberts.

But every seat on that court is most definitely a hill to die on.

Posted by: Jen at February 01, 2017 11:25 AM (z0fov)

634 629 The government picks winners and losers every day when there are strings to the money doled out.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 11:25 AM (W2Fol)

=================

I know. And it's a behavior that I do not like and do not want to see spread any further. In fact, I'd like to see it rolled back instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:26 AM (ThL6N)

635 Far from being a boon, the effect of slavery on the economy of the South was almost wholly negative. The story is of the Southern grandee who died and was buried in an Indiana coffin, a New York suit and Massachusetts shoes under a headstone of Vermont granite. The South provided the corpse and the hole in the ground.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at February 01, 2017 11:26 AM (eRbei)

636 631 Shocking,I know.

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 11:26 AM (r/0kC)

637 Yeah, I don't like the ring of government deciding what jobs are 'needed.' How about just getting the gov't out of the school loan business? I know, a pipe dream, but why not dream big with everything Trump has been able to do in less than two weeks?

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 01, 2017 11:26 AM (oZ6kz)

638 If Kennedy resigns, do I get to be pivot man?

Posted by: John Roberts at February 01, 2017 11:27 AM (97XyN)

639 12 Wife was on twitter while Trump was announcing his SCOTUS pick. It took Schumer all of thirty seconds to tweet his opposition. So predictable. So tiresome.

Posted by: Duke Lowell

Tiresome? Are you kidding? I find it delightful and invigorating. I file Cry baby Schumer's tweets under "lamentations of the women". It's part of what's best in life.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 01, 2017 11:27 AM (iWW0H)

640 Wonder how Kellogg's is doing...


$14.00 per share off their all time high.

Posted by: E Pluribus Juan at February 01, 2017 11:27 AM (ZFUt7)

641 Story of Saul and the Amalekites: Saul angered God by not kicking Amalekite ass hard enough. He killed 99.99% of them but he let some of them live. God didn't like that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 11:27 AM (Nwg0u)

642 Our side is lazy/sane/employed and just refuses to really mobilize over small issues. We also have a media that can block any boycott, whereas the MSM loves to trumpet liberal boycotts and show all the Hollywood actors involved, etc.


Also, the much bigger problem is all of these big ad agencies are usually in "blue" cities like San Fran, NYC, LA, etc. And I would wager 90% of people in PR are dyed in the wool liberals.


It's a sea change from the idea that Big Corporations are dens of right wingers, it couldn't be further from the truth
---
Remember the old "think globally, act locally" cr@p from a while back?

Everyone can act locally.

Boycott your local tv stations. Your newspapers.

Tell them you're boycotting them.

Then contact their advertisers. Tell them you are boycotting them because they support these fake journalists. Tell them you won't buy their products until they stop supporting left wing policies.

Case in point: Budwieser. They have a pro-immigration ad out right now. Seems like a great time to contact them and say "I'm have a super bowl party and not serving your beer becuase of your political views."

The only way they will learn is if they lose money. That's all that matters to them: money.

And if they only want to sell their products to liberals, well, that's fine. Let's see how that works out for you. Check to see how it worked out for Target.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:27 AM (J5mC3)

643 Yeah. Artists did that a lot. He could be trying to make the story more relateable to his audience by giving them contemporary dress. You'll notice a guy on the right has Roman armor on, and another looks more Greek. He could be using different styles to differentiate armies and people groups.

Posted by: Kris at February 01, 2017 09:46 AM (nwqNw)

Painting really needs Willie and Joe in a Jeep.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 01, 2017 11:27 AM (WDdjT)

644 Mine came in 1914.

I live in Michigan.

Not Responsible.

However, I've been told that although Michigan is not a slave state, slaves were kept here and because "whitey" I owes dem people some rep-a-ray-shuns.

Bite.
Me.
Posted by: shibumi,
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My g-grandfather's mother died right after he was born. He was the youngest of four. He and his brothers and sisters were sent to live with his grandparents.

He was apprenticed to a chemist (pharmacist) when he was 16. Life was hard in Yorkshire then, mechanization had displaced all of the textile workers, there were no jobs, and disease was rampant, particularly Typhus.

His older brother lost 3 children in 10 days to Scarlet fever.

He had an uncle here in the states, so in 1861, he emigrated. Enlisted in Michigan 29th Infantry Regiment. Eventually commissioned to 2nd Lt. Mustered out at Murfreesboro, TN, Sept. of 1865.


He is buried at Cave Hill National Cemetery in Kentucky.

Reparations: probably not happening.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 11:27 AM (ZO497)

645 Slavery in the US is a poisonous legacy of colonialism.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at February 01, 2017 11:27 AM (eRbei)

646 That can be addressed thru the GI Bill.
Snowflakes don't like it, snowflakes can sign up.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 11:23 AM (W2Fol)


True. It is a form of deferred compensation.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at February 01, 2017 11:28 AM (Pd7Sl)

647 Taking the idea seriously: How does that play out?



Schumer gets defeated in an election? Schumer steps down as leader?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:24 AM (ThL6N)


I think it has to be done with new congress, so 2 years from now Durbin will act rationally for two years, and then challenge Schumer.

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:28 AM (c6/9Q)

648 32 Schumer voted against Elaine Chow the other day. They are trying to hit bottom fast

Posted by: runner

Racism.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 01, 2017 11:28 AM (iWW0H)

649 Good point, Jen.

Posted by: no good deed at February 01, 2017 11:28 AM (hJamr)

650 Damn clouds anyway.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at February 01, 2017 11:21 AM (d76uN)
------------

I've tried yelling at clouds too, but sadly, it's rarely productive.

Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 11:29 AM (sBOL1)

651 It's shoes. Good, solid, fightin' men's footwear.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:00 AM




I approve of this message.
Posted by: Nike at February 01, 2017 10:04 AM (DMUuz)>>>


You make Running shoes. We make Fighting Boots.

Posted by: Redwing Boots at February 01, 2017 10:07 AM (XtAzU)

Yeah, I was gonna say, take a look at the pitcher up there on the
top of this post. Air Jordans are NOT going to be of much use there.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2017 10:12 AM


Ahem. The shoe maker only borrowed my name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike_(mythology)

Posted by: Nike at February 01, 2017 11:29 AM (DMUuz)

652 Schumer barely represents the state on NY anymore. Most of his support in NYC. Yet he believes this crap plays with Americans his party needs to vote for them nationally. He's the gift that keeps on giving. May he continue his destruction.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 01, 2017 11:29 AM (llUHc)

653 630 I don't think it's "won" at all, most of the conservative "intelligentsia" is still firmly in the NeverTrump camp and just waits for any small issue to jump on board and say "see, we should have made sure he lost!!!" with things like the visa pause because a few people got hung up in an airport.

These people need to be discredited.

Just browse around Twitter and look at what people are saying that I used to think were on our side.
Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:25 AM (qRZ4c)

===================

I don't see that at all.

Aside from Rick Wilson and a couple of others (none of whom would ever be considered part of the intelligentsia) most of the conservative movement is, at worst, Trump-cautious. They're happy to praise him when they need to and criticize him when they see fit.

Plus, I thought most of us considered these people to have no power anymore? Focus on those who do have power instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:30 AM (ThL6N)

654 47 BREAKING: Senate committee approves Trump Treasury, Health nominees without Dems present after GOP changes panel's rules.


WOW Reps. Find their BALLS Big League

Posted by: EVLINC!

Wow, no dissenting votes. Unity, Trump is bringing the country together.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 01, 2017 11:30 AM (iWW0H)

655 Sessions just cleared for full senate.

The crowd roars.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 01, 2017 11:30 AM (llUHc)

656 They didn't actually invent zero, but their claim to development of the Clap-On is unassailable.

-
They can have Zerobama as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 11:30 AM (Nwg0u)

657 I know. And it's a behavior that I do not like and do not want to see spread any further. In fact, I'd like to see it rolled back instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Easy peasy. Don't take the king's coin.

Simple really. States could have said f u and kept their speed limits what they wanted.
States can educate their kids how they want. Just don't take the DoE's money.
Want a degree in underwater basketweaving? Cough up the coin on your own.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 11:31 AM (W2Fol)

658 I see we have some already going wobbly. Jaysus. Nut up or shut up already.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at February 01, 2017 11:03 AM (0x/TW)
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Just for the record: Everything Trump does is exactly perfect and 100% wise. That's the official position, right? Or am I missing some nuance?

Posted by: Moron Pundit
****

Nice straw man. I am not surprised you have to resort to that. Really, you just don't get it.
I don't care how it looks and being afraid of such a thing is what the GOPe does.
No matter what Trump does he will be attacked and lied about. It is dime to damn the torpedos.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at February 01, 2017 11:31 AM (0x/TW)

659 I don't like the central planning flavor of it, personally.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:17 AM (ThL6N)
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Well, my other position would be no funding at all.

But I could see universities having a constantly updated list of job openings in their area by major and use that as a guide.

So it wouldn't be driven by any decision-making at the Federal level. I don't know. I am just tired of the country spending hundreds of billions of dollars on English majors.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:31 AM (xeeHA)

660 647 I think it has to be done with new congress, so 2 years from now Durbin will act rationally for two years, and then challenge Schumer.
Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:28 AM (c6/9Q)

=================

Again, taking your idea seriously:

Is that like hoping that McConnell will step aside for someone else?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:31 AM (ThL6N)

661 If Trump wins in 2020, there's an extremely good chance he'll have three more SCOTUS seats to fill, 2 of them libs and one of them squishy. If he can push through a few more like Gorsuch, we could have a 7-2 court.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 01, 2017 11:31 AM (oZ6kz)

662 >>645
Slavery in the US is a poisonous legacy of colonialism. Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at February 01, 2017 11:27 AM (eRbei)

Zod relaxes in the knowledge that the Aztecs he employs to spread mulch and do landscaping each spring cannot read English. If they could, they'd surely agree with you and Nat Turner Zod's estate.

Posted by: General Zod at February 01, 2017 11:31 AM (Bdeb0)

663 By the way, observation that the ette's will understand.

Trump needs to pay raise whoever did his hair and makeup last night. He looked ten years younger, got ride of those raccoon eyes (goggles for the tanning booth?) and lost that brassy, gold tones from his hair. I liked his dark suit, and I know people comment about his long ties...they actually make him look taller than he is.

Thumbs up for whoever it is, possibly he hired Hillary's makeup artist and hair stylist, who really was an academy award winner for how she/he could turn Hillary's carcass into a decent looking human being for the camera.

Posted by: Jen at February 01, 2017 11:32 AM (z0fov)

664
But still, the plan has government picking winners and losers. It's an invitation to rent seeking, and we all know how well that works out.
---

By letting everyone get womyns studies, gender studies, philosophy, communications, psychology and underwater basketweaving degrees, we're just setting ourselves up to pay for their future unemployment and welfare benefits.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:32 AM (J5mC3)

665 Can't wait to see how McStain in my underwear because I'm senile, voted.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 01, 2017 11:32 AM (llUHc)

666 we Brits stopped slavery in our "South" (Jamaica, Barbados, etc) without a bloody war, and industrialisation went fine for us.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo
-----------

Not really.
The industrialization period in England brought about a lot of upheaval. Crowding, slums, disease, and joblessness.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 11:33 AM (ZO497)

667 I don't think it's "won" at all, most of the conservative "intelligentsia" is still firmly in the NeverTrump camp and just waits for any small issue to jump on board and say "see, we should have made sure he lost!!!" with things like the visa pause because a few people got hung up in an airport.

-
Yeah, that worked out well for them during the campaign.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 11:33 AM (Nwg0u)

668 657
Easy peasy. Don't take the king's coin.

Simple really. States could have said f u and kept their speed limits what they wanted.
States can educate their kids how they want. Just don't take the DoE's money.
Want a degree in underwater basketweaving? Cough up the coin on your own.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 11:31 AM (W2Fol)

==================

I can kill it by killing the idea.

Me not accepting federal funds for an education won't do anything since I'm done with college.

Government picking winners and losers is not suddenly a good thing when we're in charge. That's just like the GOPe being better managers than Democrats. Something that I do not like.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:33 AM (ThL6N)

669 I don't see that at all.

Aside from Rick Wilson and a couple of others (none of whom would ever be considered part of the intelligentsia) most of the conservative movement is, at worst, Trump-cautious. They're happy to praise him when they need to and criticize him when they see fit.

Plus, I thought most of us considered these people to have no power anymore? Focus on those who do have power instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
________


I would say most of the major "conservative" printed publications (National Review, Weekly Standard) , big conservative websites and bloggers (Hot Air, Red State, NRO Corner) are still in the "hope he fails!" column.

I would love to "move on" and stop pointing it out, just as soon as they do.

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:33 AM (qRZ4c)

670 Far from being a boon, the effect of slavery on the economy of the South was almost wholly negative
--------------------------------------
With respect to the North and industry perhaps. The South was certainly convinced of the superior efficiency of their slave plantations versus the then free-labor plantations of the Caribbean (not to mention Free Haiti).

Posted by: RioBravo at February 01, 2017 11:34 AM (SsblQ)

671
465 458 SenOrrinHatch
01/02/17 10:11
Rather than accept anything less than their desired outcome, our Democrat colleagues chose to cower in the hallway.
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 10:52 AM (y3aQB)

=================

Even Orrin Hatch may be losing faith in his Democratic colleagues to uphold the comity and augustness of the Senate.

Could lead to some fighting spirit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

The dems screwed Orrin Hatch out of being on SCOTUS, he was nominated by Reagan. He seems to be a pretty forgiving guy.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 01, 2017 11:34 AM (iWW0H)

672 659 Well, my other position would be no funding at all.

But I could see universities having a constantly updated list of job openings in their area by major and use that as a guide.

So it wouldn't be driven by any decision-making at the Federal level. I don't know. I am just tired of the country spending hundreds of billions of dollars on English majors.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:31 AM (xeeHA)

==================

Hey...my English major has done me wonders!

*sparkles between my hands*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:34 AM (ThL6N)

673 Nice straw man. I am not surprised you have to resort to that. Really, you just don't get it.
I don't care how it looks and being afraid of such a thing is what the GOPe does.
No matter what Trump does he will be attacked and lied about. It is dime to damn the torpedos.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at February 01, 2017 11:31 AM (0x/TW)
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Well, then I'll just say I think the execution of the EO was flawed and simultaneously, am not 'wobbly' and support Trump and this EO 100%. I think it could have been achieved with ZERO political fallout instead of SOME political fallout. Ultimately, enough political fallout will MATTER no matter how much we know we're right.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:35 AM (xeeHA)

674 Also... people seem to forget that colleges and universities are not in the business to train people for jobs.

Their primary job is to keep students in their particular system as long as possible so they can make as much money as possible off those students.

Four year degree? It's better if it takes five. They make more money that way.

And if you're employable, well, what a happy coincidence.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:35 AM (J5mC3)

675 "By letting everyone get womyns studies, gender studies, philosophy, communications, psychology and underwater basketweaving degrees, we're just setting ourselves up to pay for their future unemployment and welfare benefits.


Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:32 AM (J5mC3) "

You may not like psychology, but it pays a hell of a lot better than your other examples. The median income for the degree I abandoned is one of the highest out there for a starting MA or MS.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 01, 2017 11:36 AM (oZ6kz)

676
He had an uncle here in the states, so in 1861, he emigrated. Enlisted in Michigan 29th Infantry Regiment. Eventually commissioned to 2nd Lt. Mustered out at Murfreesboro, TN, Sept. of 1865.


He is buried at Cave Hill National Cemetery in Kentucky.

Reparations: probably not happening.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Mine came in the 1730s to Virginia, owned slaves, fought under Harry and Bobby Lee; and reparations aren't happening.

Posted by: Jean at February 01, 2017 11:36 AM (Cx5AI)

677 I would say most of the major "conservative" printed publications (National Review, Weekly Standard) , big conservative websites and bloggers (Hot Air, Red State, NRO Corner) are still in the "hope he fails!" column.

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:33 AM (qRZ4c)


None of them are conservative. They are Vichy Conservative, at best. Pretty much all of them are into giving treasonous aid and comfort to invading illegals ... so they can all just fuck off, really.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 01, 2017 11:36 AM (zc3Db)

678 664 By letting everyone get womyns studies, gender studies, philosophy, communications, psychology and underwater basketweaving degrees, we're just setting ourselves up to pay for their future unemployment and welfare benefits.
Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:32 AM (J5mC3)

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You're right, that's a problem.

This is not really a good solution, though.

Kill the federal loan program. Put colleges partially on the hook for the money if the student defaults.

No college will want to be on the hook for $50-100,000 for a women's studies major when job prospects are as bad as they are.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:36 AM (ThL6N)

679 If Trump wins in 2020, there's an extremely good chance he'll have three more SCOTUS seats to fill, 2 of them libs and one of them squishy. If he can push through a few more like Gorsuch, we could have a 7-2 court.
Posted by: broseidon

__________

Even if he's only a one termer, I'll be surprised if he doesn't get to fill at least one more vacancy. Hopefully Kennedy or the ultimate prize, Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

But Kennedy would be a major dick not to step down in the next 4 years, the guy is 80 years old.

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:36 AM (qRZ4c)

680 I've yelled at cloud from both sides now.

Posted by: John McCain at February 01, 2017 11:37 AM (IqV8l)

681 Again, taking your idea seriously:



Is that like hoping that McConnell will step aside for someone else?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:31 AM (ThL6N)

No one will seriously challenge McConnell. He held the line during the Dark Ages (no not racist just historically accurate). But Schumer is no Reid. What is going on now is a mess. Total loss of control over causus without any political gain.

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:38 AM (c6/9Q)

682 669 I would say most of the major "conservative" printed publications (National Review, Weekly Standard) , big conservative websites and bloggers (Hot Air, Red State, NRO Corner) are still in the "hope he fails!" column.

I would love to "move on" and stop pointing it out, just as soon as they do.
Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:33 AM (qRZ4c)

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It seems to be a difference of interpretation of tone, then.

There are bigger battles. Trump will win against them if and when he's a good president. Let him defeat that attitude through his actions.

Focus on Democrats instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:38 AM (ThL6N)

683 Heh heh. Heh heh heh. Heh.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 01, 2017 09:59 AM (VuJJJ)

Hey, Insomniac, I addressed you on the ONT last night but maybe you missed it. Have you thought of pitching your services to Rand Paul or the Trump team as a consultant with legal experience working in the health-care litigation trenches?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 01, 2017 11:38 AM (WDdjT)

684 Speaking of political fallout: Trump is back up to a net ZERO on strongly favor at Rasmussen.

So, the political fallout from this is rebounding already.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:38 AM (xeeHA)

685 670 Far from being a boon, the effect of slavery on the economy of the South was almost wholly negative
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With respect to the North and industry perhaps. The South was certainly convinced of the superior efficiency of their slave plantations versus the then free-labor plantations of the Caribbean (not to mention Free Haiti).
Posted by: RioBravo at February 01, 2017 11:34 AM (SsblQ)

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Thomas Jefferson was once challenged to prove that slavery was more economically advantageous to him than paid labor would be.

He never finished the analysis.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:39 AM (ThL6N)

686 Sessions confirmed. I like that.

Posted by: Dang at February 01, 2017 11:39 AM (8b+oT)

687 Just for the record: Everything Trump does is exactly perfect and 100% wise. That's the official position, right? Or am I missing some nuance?

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Trump is like James Bond except better. And I don't mean those second string Bonds like Roger Moore.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 11:39 AM (Nwg0u)

688 Four year degree? It's better if it takes five. They make more money that way.

And if you're employable, well, what a happy coincidence.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:35 AM (J5mC3)


To be precise, they would rather that it took less time. What the universities are all about is just making students (or the government(s) through financial aid) pay for class credits. If they can make them pay for the same number of credits in less time then they are all gung-ho for that. If they can make a student pay for getting credit for some earlier class (AP stuff, say) or "life experience" then that is the best sort of business they can do - literally 'money for nothing'.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 01, 2017 11:39 AM (zc3Db)

689 If Trump wins in 2020, there's an extremely good chance he'll have three more SCOTUS seats to fill, 2 of them libs and one of them squishy. If he can push through a few more like Gorsuch, we could have a 7-2 court.
Posted by: broseidon

__________

Even if he's only a one termer, I'll be surprised if he doesn't get to fill at least one more vacancy. Hopefully Kennedy or the ultimate prize, Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

But Kennedy would be a major dick not to step down in the next 4 years, the guy is 80 years old.

Posted by: Maritime

Remember, Thomas wants to retire too

Posted by: Jean at February 01, 2017 11:39 AM (Cx5AI)

690 O/T
Can someone please give me the contact info for the curator of the pet thread?

Posted by: random lurker commenter at February 01, 2017 11:39 AM (+tRIN)

691 I suppose it helped to have an empire to send our excess males off to. like my grandfather in India. at least it wasn't Australia

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 11:40 AM (jpHqH)

692 Kill the federal loan program. Put colleges partially on the hook for the money if the student defaults.

No college will want to be on the hook for $50-100,000 for a women's studies major when job prospects are as bad as they are.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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If the schools don't want to self-finance/manage the loan programs, then let them guarantee the loans. It's that simple.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 11:40 AM (ZO497)

693 You may not like psychology, but it pays a hell of a lot better than your other examples. The median income for the degree I abandoned is one of the highest out there for a starting MA or MS.
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What is the starting pay for those with a psychology degree and a BA? I was talking undergraduate degrees, not graduate.

Back in the day, every female who was unsure about her future took psychology for a major. Until she got her Mrs.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:40 AM (J5mC3)

694 Kill the federal loan program. Put colleges partially on the hook for the money if the student defaults.

No college will want to be on the hook for $50-100,000 for a women's studies major when job prospects are as bad as they are.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:36 AM (ThL6N)
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This is probably the ideal way to get the effect I want without government interference.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 11:40 AM (xeeHA)

695 681 No one will seriously challenge McConnell. He held the line during the Dark Ages (no not racist just historically accurate). But Schumer is no Reid. What is going on now is a mess. Total loss of control over causus without any political gain.
Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:38 AM (c6/9Q)

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I see now. You're assuming that the caucus is completely un-governable (to coin a phrase).

I could buy it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:40 AM (ThL6N)

696 Even if he's only a one termer, I'll be surprised if he doesn't get to fill at least one more vacancy. Hopefully Kennedy or the ultimate prize, Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

Breyer is getting on in years, too. If Trump wins in 2020, he could get four appointments.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 01, 2017 11:40 AM (10LGw)

697 just getting rid of Kennedy will tighten up the court. Libertarian justice fighting the Constitution. that was sad.

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:41 AM (c6/9Q)

698 It's shoes. Good, solid, fightin' men's footwear.

The Roman officers were given short heels on their sandals to make them look taller. The Romans noticed that their officers didn't get nearly as tired on marches as the troops did. Not being idiots they gave all their soldiers the heels. The Romans were thus able to march somewhere and fight - while their foes were exhausted and had to rest after a march. This gave the Romans a decisive edge on the battle field.

Posted by: An Observation at February 01, 2017 11:41 AM (JJvT1)

699 32 Schumer voted against Elaine Chow the other day. They are trying to hit bottom fast

Posted by: runner

Racism.
,,,
I hate to say it, but I side with Schumer. I don't care if she is "highly qualified". She is the wife of the Majority Leader of the Senate. Even if it isn't (and you can't tell me that it isn't), it reeks of crony capitalism swamp water bullcrap.

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 11:41 AM (1H9ox)

700 Pelousi is having a major meltdown on CNN vomitting lies right and left. Of course she is not challenged at all on any of them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 11:41 AM (mpXpK)

701 Re: Sidebar article. I saw the clip of Orrin Hatch saying crap. I was like.. "did he just say crap?".. moar please!


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Yep! Shannon Bream and Christ Stirewalt were live when it happened and were really shocked. They said that he's a stalwart of decorum in Congress and his actions and language are indicative of just how very angry and fed up he is.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 01, 2017 11:42 AM (SEXy3)

702 College costs getting out of control is the same with why housing prices exploded in the 2000s, once the government makes these loans a human right, the price goes through the roof as ability to pay is no longer a factor.

I would not be opposed though to some "non-conservative" solutions like tuition freezes for colleges that accept federal aid. It is a government institution after all, if they want to go 100% private than they won't have those regulations.

I also would like to start going after these endowments with tax reforms, some of them like Harvard could pay for like 100 years of free tuition for every student that attends.

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:42 AM (qRZ4c)

703 I just sent this letter to the douchecanoe Cardin who is my senator in the PR of Maryland.
Mr. Cardin,
Will you and the other Democrats in the Senate please get back to work and do your jobs. This posturing and skipping out of Finance committee meetings to stall President Trump's nominees is ridiculous. Mr. Obama had 11 cabinet positions filled in the first two weeks of his first term. The Republicans were in the minority but didn't resort to these silly stunts. President Trump only has 2 cabinet positions filled at this time. Please put these partisan tactics aside and do your job.

Please include the text of this email in any response that you may send.

Thank you,
Timon

Posted by: Timon at February 01, 2017 11:42 AM (27k1O)

704 Hammer, my pow in Andersonville g grandfather is buried in cave hill. Gorgeous place. He was from Ohio. Married after the war and settled in Louisville.

Posted by: NCKate at February 01, 2017 11:42 AM (hIjEp)

705 Mz. Lindsey: No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!

McCain: We're just the guys to do it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 11:43 AM (Nwg0u)

706 Thomas Jefferson was once challenged to prove that slavery was more economically advantageous to him than paid labor would be.

He never finished the analysis.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:39 AM (ThL6N)
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He certainly would have had a problem comparing slave labor in the South to free labor in the Caribbean.

Posted by: RioBravo at February 01, 2017 11:43 AM (SsblQ)

707 Chinese people invented stirrup pants!

Posted by: One Hung Lo at February 01, 2017 11:43 AM (97XyN)

708 703 I just sent this letter to the douchecanoe Cardin who is my senator in the PR of Maryland.
Mr. Cardin,
Will you and the other Democrats in the Senate please get back to work and do your jobs. This posturing and skipping out of Finance committee meetings to stall President Trump's nominees is ridiculous. Mr. Obama had 11 cabinet positions filled in the first two weeks of his first term. The Republicans were in the minority but didn't resort to these silly stunts. President Trump only has 2 cabinet positions filled at this time. Please put these partisan tactics aside and do your job.

Please include the text of this email in any response that you may send.

Thank you,
Timon
Posted by: Timon at February 01, 2017 11:42 AM (27k1O)

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His staff probably won't read it for a few days at least.

Good luck getting anything other than a form response, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:43 AM (ThL6N)

709 what ajmojo said. I don't like that appointment either. maybe Trump's plan was to trick Schumer into stepping on his own crank in public. If so then Schumer got himself trolled hard

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 11:44 AM (jpHqH)

710 Ginsburg is 187yrs old and looks like a decomposing troll. She only stayed thru the oblabo years because she is a rabid racist and didn't want the black guy to name her replacement. She expected hellbeast to win and get the honor. Now she is screwed. She needs to resign but can't. Odds are she keels during a court session.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity woman extraordinary) at February 01, 2017 11:44 AM (yTnCT)

711 >>No one will seriously challenge McConnell. He held the line during the Dark Ages (no not racist just historically accurate). But Schumer is no Reid. What is going on now is a mess. Total loss of control over causus without any political gain.

It could be argued that one of the big reasons the Dems are in the mess they are right now is because of Reid. Not only did he blow up the filibuster for federal judicial appointments he gave the precedent for doing the same with the Supreme Court votes.

Also his nastiness, dishonesty and general dickish behavior turned a lot of voters off. Like it or not the Senate was designed to be a congenial place where debate could take place at a high level. Reid went a long ways toward blowing that up and the rancor and partisanship we see now is his legacy.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 11:44 AM (/tuJf)

712 The trees are nice, but the painting would be even better with a little cabin in it. Those are always good.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 01, 2017 11:44 AM (CPk08)

713 Ha, watching the replay of Orrin Hatch ranting at the committee meeting on CSPAN1.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 01, 2017 11:45 AM (8iiMU)

714 Hammer, my pow in Andersonville g grandfather is buried in cave hill. Gorgeous place. He was from Ohio. Married after the war and settled in Louisville.
Posted by: NCKate
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Yes. A beautiful cemetery.
Interesting about Louisville, because my g-grandfather eventually settled there also, which is why he is at Cave Hill.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 11:45 AM (ZO497)

715 With respect to the North and industry perhaps. The South was certainly convinced of the superior efficiency of their slave plantations versus the then free-labor plantations of the Caribbean (not to mention Free Haiti).

Posted by: RioBravo at February 01, 2017 11:34 AM (SsblQ)

Well, yeah, but being better off than Haiti is a pretty low bar - particularly when they were going up against a more populous and industrialized part of the country.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 11:45 AM (ZM2xo)

716 Even if he's only a one termer, I'll be surprised if he doesn't get to fill at least one more vacancy. Hopefully Kennedy or the ultimate prize, Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

But Kennedy would be a major dick not to step down in the next 4 years, the guy is 80 years old.



Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:36 AM (qRZ4c)

Buzzy Ginsberg is 83 and looks like she is 183. She could be next.

Posted by: Timon at February 01, 2017 11:45 AM (27k1O)

717 "Odds are she keels during a court session."

The "Breakfast at Bernie's" scenario.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 01, 2017 11:45 AM (97XyN)

718 I've yelled at cloud from both sides now.

Posted by: John McCain at February 01, 2017 11:37 AM (IqV8l)

And yet my connection is still slower than dial up. Plus you'll never be an Admiral like Pappy and Grand Pappy and you still have 4 and a half confirmed kills.

For our enemies.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at February 01, 2017 11:46 AM (d76uN)

719 It does take a moron -- and not the good kind -- to presume government should decide which majors are "needed".

Simpler solution: no financial aid, just loans. If the student defaults, institution of record is on the hook for repayment. Washing students out becomes critical, BS majors are a burden to the school, and if you can make a doctorate in grievance studies pay, you're free to do so.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at February 01, 2017 11:46 AM (CWJvQ)

720 It seems to be a difference of interpretation of tone, then.

There are bigger battles. Trump will win against them if and when he's a good president. Let him defeat that attitude through his actions.

Focus on Democrats instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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We can't do both?

If Trump's agenda fails, it will be almost exclusively because of NeverTrump Republicans like McCain, Flake, Sasse, Orrin Hatch etc.

It won't be from Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:46 AM (qRZ4c)

721 Pelousi is having a major meltdown on CNN vomitting lies right and left.

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Nanzi: I'll get you, my pretty, and your little scalp weasel, too!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 11:46 AM (Nwg0u)

722 His staff probably won't read it for a few days at least.

Good luck getting anything other than a form response, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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That is why such should be handwritten. They go to the top of the priority list.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 11:47 AM (ZO497)

723 "Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:40 AM (J5mC3) "

Yeah, it's not very good for BA's, but you pretty much can't get a job in psych with a psych BA. You can be a barista that educates the coffee-drinking populace about Adler and Terman.

But that's also true of other degrees that require higher education, like law and medicine. No one would say pre-med is a major with no earning potential, but if you don't go to Med School, then yeah, you're going to be working in fast food. (And of course a lot of people going to Med School don't do a pre-med undergrad).

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 01, 2017 11:47 AM (oZ6kz)

724 Trump is like James Bond except better. And I don't mean those second string Bonds like Roger Moore.
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Right - the grab the pussy galore Bond.

Posted by: Roy at February 01, 2017 11:47 AM (VndSC)

725 Kill the federal loan program. Put colleges partially on the hook for the money if the student defaults.

Also: conservative-minded employers should be shouting from the *rooftops* that they're open to hiring people right out of high school for apprenticeship type positions.

Half of the kids at any public university would be better off doing something like that.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at February 01, 2017 11:47 AM (10LGw)

726 What the universities are all about is just making students (or the government(s) through financial aid) pay for class credits. If they can make them pay for the same number of credits in less time then they are all gung-ho for that. If they can make a student pay for getting credit for some earlier class (AP stuff, say) or "life experience" then that is the best sort of business they can do - literally 'money for nothing'.
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I think they do well with something called "room and board." I was factoring that in as well. I'm guessing that on campus housing is just as expensive as tuition.

It might have changed over the years, but the university I attended deliberately under scheduled required classes in popular majors so that it would take five years to complete

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:47 AM (J5mC3)

727 Buzzy Ginsberg is 83 and looks like she is 183. She could be next.
,,,
I wouldn't count on it. Ever been to an old folks home? There are some old birds there that look like they should pass any minute now, but they keep on ticking for years.
She's tiny. All the tiny ones go forever. She could live to be 100. And there is no removing her.

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 11:48 AM (1H9ox)

728 I was shopping just last night for a new bike. Now I'll buy used or rebuild the one I have.
I emailed them this morning to let them know at media@harley-davidson.com.

Posted by: IP at February 01, 2017 11:48 AM (PgCSb)

729 Buzzy Ginsberg is 83 and looks like she is 183. She could be next.
Posted by: Timon
________



She's the most likely to die, but the other "conservative" justices are more likely to leave strategically.

She will be in a coma on life support and try to keep that seat if Trump is President, I'm not using hyperbole.

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:48 AM (qRZ4c)

730 720 We can't do both?

If Trump's agenda fails, it will be almost exclusively because of NeverTrump Republicans like McCain, Flake, Sasse, Orrin Hatch etc.

It won't be from Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.
Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:46 AM (qRZ4c)

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McCain does not write for those publications. Neither does Flake, Sasse, or Hatch.

I'm not arguing against keeping the fight on elected Republicans, but on people who literally have as much power as we do right now in terms of voting on legislation and appointments.

Bitching about the Weekly Standard doesn't accomplish quite as much as bitching about John McCain. The best place to direct your energies though is at red state Democrats.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:49 AM (ThL6N)

731 Trump is like James Bond except better. And I don't mean those second string Bonds like Roger Moore.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 11:39 AM


Begun the Bond Wars have.

Posted by: Yoda at February 01, 2017 11:49 AM (DMUuz)

732 Sessions confirmed. I like that.

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Well, he's out of committee. Still has to get through the floor vote.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 01, 2017 11:49 AM (SEXy3)

733 The EU just put the US on their draft tax-haven Blacklist. They say we as a country encourage tax avoidance. Lol.

They really are running out of money, aren't they.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 01, 2017 11:49 AM (llUHc)

734 But Kennedy would be a major dick not to step down in the next 4 years, the guy is 80 years old.

Posted by: Maritime

Remember, Thomas wants to retire too
Posted by: Jean at February 01, 2017 11:39 AM (Cx5AI)

I was thinking that it would be a no brainer that Kennedy would announce his retirement in the next twelve months.

The question is: How much does Kennedy value his "swing vote" status and would he delay his retirement knowing he would would be replaced with a firm conservative voice and majority on the bench?

I shudder just thinking about it.

Posted by: WisRich at February 01, 2017 11:50 AM (hdpay)

735 Well, yeah, but being better off than Haiti is a pretty low bar - particularly when they were going up against a more populous and industrialized part of the country.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 11:45 AM (ZM2xo)
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Hence "not to mention"

Posted by: RioBravo at February 01, 2017 11:50 AM (SsblQ)

736 Good luck getting anything other than a form response, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:43 AM (ThL6N)

I know but it is better than nothing. I can't be too big of a jerk because I regularly have business before CMS which may involve action from the hill.

Posted by: Timon at February 01, 2017 11:50 AM (27k1O)

737 what ajmojo said. I don't like that appointment
either. maybe Trump's plan was to trick Schumer into stepping on his own
crank in public. If so then Schumer got himself trolled hard

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 11:44 AM (jpHqH)

there is something to that

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:50 AM (c6/9Q)

738 727 Buzzy Ginsberg is 83 and looks like she is 183. She could be next.
,,,
I wouldn't count on it. Ever been to an old folks home? There are some old birds there that look like they should pass any minute now, but they keep on ticking for years.
She's tiny. All the tiny ones go forever. She could live to be 100. And there is no removing her.
Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 11:48 AM (1H9ox)

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Prediction:

She makes it to 2020 and decides to retire in June.

Democrats will pressure Republicans to not replace her until after the election. Republicans will concede.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:50 AM (ThL6N)

739 >>Well, he's out of committee. Still has to get through the floor vote.

A formality at this point.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 11:51 AM (/tuJf)

740 I think Sasse can be counted on to join Lee and Cruz in agreeing with Trump when he does conservative stuff.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 11:51 AM (jpHqH)

741 685
670 Far from being a boon, the effect of slavery on the economy of the South was almost wholly negative

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With respect to the North and industry perhaps. The South was
certainly convinced of the superior efficiency of their slave
plantations versus the then free-labor plantations of the Caribbean (not
to mention Free Haiti).

Posted by: RioBravo at February 01, 2017 11:34 AM (SsblQ)



=====================



Thomas Jefferson was once challenged to prove that slavery was more economically advantageous to him than paid labor would be.



He never finished the analysis.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:39 AM (ThL6N)

I once read a history text used at Wofford that studied the economics of the civil war in the South. The use of slavery prior to invention of the cotton gin probably wasn't advantageous. Indeed prior to that cotton gin many thought it would actually die out on its on.
At the start of the civil war this text said that around 95% of the economy of the South was tied up with slavery in one form or another.

Now imagine that the South in the mid 50s had demanded that the North shutdown all the auto industry, the steel industry, and nearly every other economic industry they had in the North.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 11:51 AM (mpXpK)

742 Bitching about the Weekly Standard doesn't accomplish quite as much as bitching about John McCain. The best place to direct your energies though is at red state Democrats.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


_______

I'll decide who gets to be bitched at, but thanks for the suggestions.

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:52 AM (qRZ4c)

743 The Notorious RBG might actually go the Futurama route and end up serving as a head in a jar.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 01, 2017 11:52 AM (oZ6kz)

744 No one would say pre-med is a major with no earning potential, but if you don't go to Med School, then yeah, you're going to be working in fast food. (And of course a lot of people going to Med School don't do a pre-med undergrad).

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 01, 2017 11:47 AM (oZ6kz)


There really is no such thing as a "pre-med" major. Pre-med just describes someone who intends to go to med school.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 01, 2017 11:52 AM (zc3Db)

745 there is rumor going around that there is going to be a supreme court resignation

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:52 AM (c6/9Q)

746 741 Now imagine that the South in the mid 50s had demanded that the North shutdown all the auto industry, the steel industry, and nearly every other economic industry they had in the North.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 11:51 AM (mpXpK)

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The more I read about Antebellum America, the more I'm convinced that war was inevitable. There was literally no way to stop it.

I don't want to blame the abolition movement that developed, but I do wonder what would have happened if it hadn't developed. Would the South have hardened its views so thoroughly? Would having territories determine their own rules on slavery when they applied for statehood been quite so controversial?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:54 AM (ThL6N)

747 I'm usually not one to mention this sort of thing, but Sonya's really let herself go. The bitch.

Posted by: Elena Kagen at February 01, 2017 11:54 AM (97XyN)

748 I've tried yelling at clouds too, but sadly, it's rarely productive.
Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 11:29 AM


Individually or cumulatively?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 01, 2017 11:54 AM (DMUuz)

749 Buzzy Ginsberg is 83 and looks like she is 183. She could be next.


Weekend At Buzzy's

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at February 01, 2017 11:55 AM (vtcmf)

750 Buzzy Ginsberg is 83 and looks like she is 183. She could be next.

As a female at that age she has a life expectancy of ~91.

Posted by: An Observation at February 01, 2017 11:55 AM (JJvT1)

751 "There really is no such thing as a "pre-med" major. Pre-med just describes someone who intends to go to med school.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 01, 2017 11:52 AM (zc3Db) "

Well, they won't print it on a degree, but there are a suite of courses that basically make up a major - they're more credit intensive than a lot of 'real' majors. It's just taken for granted that anybody doing that courseload is doing it as a precursor to Med School and their formal degree will usually be in one of the sciences. (I know my grandpa's was in Bio, and my father's was Chem.)

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 01, 2017 11:55 AM (oZ6kz)

752 Vic is right, slavery was dying out in the non cotton slave states like Maryland, Virginia, South Carolina

and when further mechanization came to the South after the war, a lot of the sharecroppers were out of work, so it is unlikely slavery was going to last long in Mississippi either

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 11:55 AM (jpHqH)

753 Before she changed her name, she was known as John Wilkes Booth Bader Ginsberg.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 11:56 AM (Nwg0u)

754 Not being idiots they gave all their soldiers the heels. The Romans were thus able to march somewhere and fight - while their foes were exhausted and had to rest after a march. This gave the Romans a decisive edge on the battle field.

More than the heels, they made distance marches a routine, so the soldiers were all conditioned for endurance. On campaign, the daily routine was to tear down the camp -- which involved removing a stockade -- marching, then building a new camp, with a surrounding ditch, dirt rampart, and stockade on top the rampart. Oh, and sometimes the troops carried the poles for the stockade, as well as their gear and food.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at February 01, 2017 11:56 AM (CWJvQ)

755 742 I'll decide who gets to be bitched at, but thanks for the suggestions.
Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:52 AM (qRZ4c)

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I just see it as two groups of people who agree on large swaths of ideology (with some significant differences) going after each other instead of after Democrats.

It's extending a civil war that I think was fought and won to the point that we can push it to the side for a more important fight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:56 AM (ThL6N)

756 The question is: How much does Kennedy value his "swing vote" status and would he delay his retirement knowing he would would be replaced with a firm conservative voice and majority on the bench?

I shudder just thinking about it.

Posted by: WisRich at February 01, 2017 11:50 AM (hdpay)

Last night, Laura Ingraham declared pretty firmly that there will be another opening on the court by this summer. Maybe she's talking out of her butt, maybe she knows something...

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 11:56 AM (ZM2xo)

757 Im starting to think Trump may win pennsylvania!.....and maybe Michigan


Posted by: duncan at February 01, 2017 11:56 AM (XKLkE)

758 Individually or cumulatively?


Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 01, 2017 11:54 AM (DMUuz)

You missed an easy cloud pun there with cumulus-tively.

Puns are the lifeblood of this place, I wish you'd be more cirrus about them.

<_<

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at February 01, 2017 11:56 AM (6JL3d)

759 I see Debbie Washingmachine-Schlitz is running her mouth again.

Posted by: Killerdog at February 01, 2017 11:56 AM (sfq6H)

760 >>Trump, and a lot of other people to boot, are challenging that and there
is no one at the top to apply pressure to reassert their power to
control the debate.


Yep.
People like Milo, James O'Keefe, Paul Joseph Watson, Drudge invading their territory like guerilla fighters. How do you fight back against it when these people refuse to be silences, and their audience refuses to accept the Left's attempt to deligitimize them?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 11:56 AM (NOIQH)

761 The question is: How much does Kennedy value his "swing vote" status and would he delay his retirement knowing he would would be replaced with a firm conservative voice and majority on the bench?

I shudder just thinking about it.
Posted by: WisRich

______

Sandra Day OConnor played a similar role, she seemed to fine with being replaced by a more conservative justice.

I think most of them understand that there are only two choices: a Hard Left judicial activist under a Democrat or a reasonable conservative nominee under a Republican.

I don't think any Republican is going to nominate a real social conservative, culture warrior fire breather on the Supreme Court for a while.

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 11:57 AM (qRZ4c)

762 757 Im starting to think Trump may win pennsylvania!.....and maybe Michigan

Exit polls do not look good. Say hello to Madame Cankles!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 01, 2017 11:57 AM (ul9CR)

763 "Maybe she's talking out of her butt, maybe she knows something..."

When Laura Ingraham talks out of her butt, people listen.

Posted by: EF Hutton with a Hard-On at February 01, 2017 11:58 AM (97XyN)

764 Last night, Laura Ingraham declared pretty firmly that there will be another opening on the court by this summer. Maybe she's talking out of her butt, maybe she knows something...
,,,
Pics or it didn't happen.

Posted by: ajmojo at February 01, 2017 11:58 AM (1H9ox)

765 anybody tired of all this winning yet? Me either!
I can haz more winnings?

Posted by: duncan at February 01, 2017 11:58 AM (XKLkE)

766 I've tried yelling at clouds too, but sadly, it's rarely productive.
Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 11:29 AM

Individually or cumulatively?

-
Cirrusly?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 11:58 AM (Nwg0u)

767 I think they do well with something called "room and board." I was factoring that in as well. I'm guessing that on campus housing is just as expensive as tuition.

Very true. The ridiculous rates they cahrge for dorms and their shitty cafeterias are damn good sidebusinesses. Normally, lefties would describe them as "price gouging" ... but everything associated with universities is pretty much like that.

It might have changed over the years, but the university I attended deliberately under scheduled required classes in popular majors so that it would take five years to complete

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 11:47 AM (J5mC3)


I don't know. That sounds odd. The university makes more money getting students to pay for every credit and then be gone (to be deluged with letters begging for donations ever after). Required classes are usually good business for colleges because they allow large graduate programs, as the grad students are the cheapest instructors around - so it ends up being a win-win for the school.

Most schools I have been involved with (as a student or on faculty) have wanted to get the population turned over as quickly as possible.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 01, 2017 11:58 AM (zc3Db)

768 When Laura Ingraham talks out of her butt, people listen.

*ahem*

Posted by: Hope's Rolo at February 01, 2017 11:58 AM (vtcmf)

769 Individually or cumulatively?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 01, 2017 11:54 AM (DMUuz)
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Cirrusly

Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 11:58 AM (sBOL1)

770 That battle is over and won. Win graciously and move on. There are other battles to be had.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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No.

That's twice in two days that you have pled the Nevertrumpers case.

Stop being so generous with other's forgiveness.

I'll forgive who, what , when and where I damn well please.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at February 01, 2017 11:58 AM (toH8T)

771 Last night, Laura Ingraham declared pretty firmly that there will be another opening on the court by this summer. Maybe she's talking out of her butt

If so, I am more than willing to listen.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 01, 2017 11:59 AM (oVJmc)

772 The Left, in sum:

President Hitler just nominated Hitler to be a SCOTUS justice!

Posted by: Marmo, so tired of lefties at February 01, 2017 11:59 AM (xujbM)

773 >>Indeed prior to that cotton gin many thought it would actually die out on its on. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 11:51 AM (mpXpK)

That's very true, but there were also those in the South who thought that the gin would, almost overnight, generate a vast, unemployed, thoroughly impoverished, restive black population in Dixie, and that that unacceptably dangerous situation was reason enough to slow-roll acceptance of industrialized agriculture. Not saying it's the "correct" history, but the argument has been made (and there's some precedent for it).

Posted by: General Zod at February 01, 2017 11:59 AM (Bdeb0)

774 "Individually or cumulatively?"

That is a un-cirrius question.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at February 01, 2017 11:59 AM (d76uN)

775 Well crap, Anon Wrecks beat me to it. I blame my phone.

Very nimbusly done.

Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 12:00 PM (sBOL1)

776 >>Individually or cumulatively?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 01, 2017 11:54 AM (DMUuz)
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>>Cirrusly

The cumulus result of all these puns is a coarsening of our language.

I blame Muldoon.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:00 PM (/tuJf)

777 Age limits on the Supreme Court are another thing that aren't really "conservative" but that just seem to make sense. It's silly that RBG can potentially be a decomposing husk on the bench and the only mechanism to remove her has never been fully utilized. (Fortas is sort of the Nixon of the SCOTUS, I suppose)

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 01, 2017 12:00 PM (oZ6kz)

778 770 No.

That's twice in two days that you have pled the Nevertrumpers case.

Stop being so generous with other's forgiveness.

I'll forgive who, what , when and where I damn well please.
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at February 01, 2017 11:58 AM (toH8T)

====================

Don't forgive. Forgive. I don't care.

I just want our energies directed at more meaningful targets.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:00 PM (ThL6N)

779 President Hitler just nominated Hitler to be a SCOTUS justice!

It's Hitlers all the way down.

Posted by: Hope's Rolo at February 01, 2017 12:00 PM (vtcmf)

780 That's very true, but there were also those in the South who thought that the gin would, almost overnight, generate a vast, unemployed, thoroughly impoverished, restive black population in Dixie, and that that unacceptably dangerous situation was reason enough to slow-roll acceptance of industrialized agriculture. Not saying it's the "correct" history, but the argument has been made (and there's some precedent for it).
,,,
We agree.

Posted by: Fast Food workers replaced by robotic kiosks at February 01, 2017 12:01 PM (1H9ox)

781 I see Debbie Washingmachine-Schlitz is running her mouth again.

-
Ugly, stupid, and corrupt is no way to go through life, son (or whatever the hell xe is).

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 12:01 PM (Nwg0u)

782 President Hitler just nominated Hitler to be a SCOTUS justice!


Eight out of ten Hitlers approve.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 01, 2017 12:01 PM (oVJmc)

783 I blame Muldoon.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017
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It's a stratus symbol if you can beat Muldoon to the punch.

Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 12:01 PM (sBOL1)

784 Should be about time for Ace.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 12:02 PM (mpXpK)

785 I just want our energies directed at more meaningful targets.
==

The Nevertrumpers and the GOPe ARE the most meaningful targets.


Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at February 01, 2017 12:02 PM (toH8T)

786 My school definitely tried to get rid of my as quickly as possible, but I was also a commuter student that parked at a private location, so they were getting 0 money from me except for tuition and a few fees that you can't escape paying.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 01, 2017 12:03 PM (oZ6kz)

787 @Mortimer: I can move on too, but let us never forget who and what this enemy is. Liberals/socialist/communist etc represent all that is evil in this world either by choice or by ignorance, but they rep it non the less.

Here is to never forgetting

Posted by: duncan at February 01, 2017 12:03 PM (XKLkE)

788 Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer...How can someone this stupid be an elected leader? What does that say about her constituents?

Posted by: IC at February 01, 2017 12:04 PM (a0IVu)

789 It's extending a civil war that I think was fought and won to the point that we can push it to the side for a more important fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
_____



And yet their side keeps shooting.

I naively thought most of this would be put to bed after the election, that was my sincere hope, but I honestly don't think these people will stop until they get Trump impeached, so the war continues.

McCain tried with his silly Russian dossier. All sorts are coming out of the woodwork and throwing around the word fascist because some people coming from countries we've been bombing got held up at an airport for screening.

Trump tried to bury the hatchet with these people,even endorsing both McCain and Ryan in their respective primaries. It didn't help matters.

So it's war.

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 12:04 PM (qRZ4c)

790 Seriously!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 01, 2017 12:04 PM (gTQoY)

791 That's very true, but there were also those in the South who thought that the gin would, almost overnight, generate a vast, unemployed, thoroughly impoverished, restive black population in Dixie, and that that unacceptably dangerous situation was reason enough to slow-roll acceptance of industrialized agriculture. Not saying it's the "correct" history, but the argument has been made (and there's some precedent for it).
,,,
We agree.
Posted by: Fast Food workers
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See: Power looms in England, Luddites, riots, Militias called out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 12:04 PM (ZO497)

792 I don't have a lot of energy when it comes to productive work, but my heart is an engine of boundless energy when it comes to hate, so I think I can afford to spread it around.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at February 01, 2017 12:04 PM (oZ6kz)

793 >>The Nevertrumpers and the GOPe ARE the most meaningful targets.

Haven't noticed them having much affect lately.

I'm having way too much fun winning to care what they think.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:04 PM (/tuJf)

794 788
Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer...How can someone this
stupid be an elected leader? What does that say about her constituents?


Posted by: IC at February 01, 2017 12:04 PM (a0IVu)

Almost ALL of them do not give a shit about anything any Democrat says except here is your free shit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 12:05 PM (mpXpK)

795 I don't want to blame the abolition movement that developed, but I do wonder what would have happened if it hadn't developed. Would the South have hardened its views so thoroughly? Would having territories determine their own rules on slavery when they applied for statehood been quite so controversial?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:54 AM (ThL6N)
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By the mid 1850's there was a growing sentiment in the South (though still a minority view) that focused on the Golden Circle and attributed great importance to the expansion of slavery to the Caribbean and Central America (that is a re-introduction of slavery where it had been abolished) under the American (until 1861)flag. Initiatives in this direction would have placed free-soilers in the same hardened political position as the abolitionists.

Posted by: RioBravo at February 01, 2017 12:05 PM (SsblQ)

796 Wayne LaPierre sitting at the left hand of the father a few moments ago. Rightous.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 01, 2017 12:05 PM (6LwXe)

797 Drudge: Ohio Pastor Claims Chicago Gangs Want To Work With Trump To Fight Crime

NOW HE'S CAPONE-HITLER!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 01, 2017 12:05 PM (ul9CR)

798 Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer...How can someone this stupid be an elected leader? What does that say about her constituents?
Posted by: IC
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That they are spoon-fed by the Fellow-Traveler media.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 12:05 PM (ZO497)

799 I just want our energies directed at more meaningful targets.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:00 PM (ThL6N)


And that's your opinion... but you are trying to tell others what they should, or should not, be saying... where THEY decide to put their energy...

Which is amazingly, how the Right got into trouble in the first place...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 01, 2017 12:05 PM (qf6WZ)

800 789
So it's war.
Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 12:04 PM (qRZ4c)

===================

You keep naming elected officials.

Great! I don't disagree!

Keep the pressure on them!

Picking on Twitterers like Rick Wilson is a waste of breath, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:05 PM (ThL6N)

801 That battle is over and won. Win graciously and move on. There are other battles to be had.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

___________________________

In all do respect ! GO FUCK YOURSELF

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:06 PM (y3aQB)

802 >>784
Should be about time for Ace. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 12:02 PM (mpXpK)

And not a moment too soon.

Posted by: General Zod at February 01, 2017 12:06 PM (Bdeb0)

803 In regards to Harley Davidson -


I just called their offices in Milwaukee. They said they did NOT cancel a tour by Trump. They said there was some preliminary activity trying to schedule a meeting but it has not been scheduled as of yet. They said they are HAPPY to have the President tour the company, and are unhappy that the media is reporting otherwise.


Posted by: grammie winger at February 01, 2017 12:06 PM (bpfzP)

804 Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer...How can someone this stupid be an elected leader? What does that say about her constituents?
Posted by: IC

Too much botox rots the brain.

San Francisco...

Posted by: Timon at February 01, 2017 12:06 PM (27k1O)

805 Nothin' up my sleeve...

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 01, 2017 12:07 PM (ul9CR)

806 512 For joncelli-if he's still l on the website

Hello, Brother-I endorse what other people said about you contacting your doctor right away if you anti depressant is causing you to have suicidal thoughts. That is very bad. Thees intrusive thoughts may only get worse. I can only assure you-and you know this when thoughts are logical-that are numerous people who would be devastated if you acted on those thoughts.

In addition, today is a Holy Day in the Orthodox church-unless the particular church is celebrating it another day. It is the presentation of Jesus and Mary and the temple-40 days after the celebration of his birth. I know you hesitate to go there but you might find the sung prayers and chanting soothing and healing as well.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 01, 2017 11:04 AM (fDdVG)

Hi Fen! Everybody has been so supportive. I'm feeling better now and I'm going to see the doctor. And I identified an Orthodox church near me (St. Herman of Alaska, which is cool because I lived in Anchorage long ago). Seriously, I'm okay and I appreciate everybody's caring.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at February 01, 2017 12:07 PM (RD7QR)

807
Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer...How can someone this stupid be an elected leader? What does that say about her constituents?
Posted by: IC at February 01, 2017 12:04 PM (a0IVu)

Her constituents are wealthy and every bit as whacked out as she is.

Posted by: Deplore Male Logic at February 01, 2017 12:07 PM (lKyWE)

808 Grammie, I will spread the news. Thanks for checking!

Posted by: @votermom @vm at February 01, 2017 12:07 PM (Om16U)

809 803 Hmmm,damage control or the truth?Doesn't matter.

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 12:07 PM (r/0kC)

810 thank you winger.

PR departments around the country have to watch out for the Fake News Media

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at February 01, 2017 12:08 PM (jpHqH)

811 https://tinyurl.com/jm7zmp6

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Trump Tells McTurtle "Go Nuclear" If You Have To

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:08 PM (y3aQB)

812 801 In all do respect ! GO FUCK YOURSELF
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:06 PM (y3aQB)

==================

I bet you're fun in real life.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:08 PM (ThL6N)

813 803 In regards to Harley Davidson -


I just called their offices in Milwaukee. They said they did NOT cancel a tour by Trump. They said there was some preliminary activity trying to schedule a meeting but it has not been scheduled as of yet. They said they are HAPPY to have the President tour the company, and are unhappy that the media is reporting otherwise.


Posted by: grammie winger at February 01, 2017 12:06 PM (bpfzP)

The White House needs to highlight this. Yet another reason to bitchslap the media, and I apologize to bitches for the comparison.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at February 01, 2017 12:08 PM (RD7QR)

814 Glad to hear it, joncelli. Thanks for letting us know.

Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 12:08 PM (sBOL1)

815 Liberals/socialist/communist etc represent all that is evil in this
world either by choice or by ignorance, but they rep it non the less.
==

I would rather have honest evil in my face. I can deal with that.

Those who publicly declared that Hillary would have been a better president do NOT get to come back and tell Trump how to run his administration and receive anything like credibility.

Some Nevertrumpers spent hours and thousands of words attacking Trump even once he was the nominee. They also attacked his supporters. Right JohnE? Gabe? Ynot?

I was at ace's when you could get BANNED by a cob on a thread for mentioning Trumps NAME.


I will mock and deride Nevertrumpers permanently.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at February 01, 2017 12:09 PM (toH8T)

816 803 Hmmm,damage control or the truth?Doesn't matter.

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 12:07 PM (r/0kC)
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The woman I talked to was emphatic that they would welcome "OUR" President. Not The President. OUR President.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 01, 2017 12:09 PM (bpfzP)

817 Remember how, before the election, the Dems were talking about how the country was tired of gridlock? And now, they seem to love it. If you don't want to vote for a nominee, that's fine. But don't pull this BS where you don't want to let them out of committee.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 01, 2017 12:09 PM (PjWy4)

818 Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer...How can someone this stupid be an elected leader? What does that say about her constituents?
Posted by: IC at February 01, 2017 12:04 PM (a0IVu)

Her constituents are wealthy and every bit as whacked out as she is.
Posted by: Deplore Male Logic
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Wasn't there some poll where like 75% of deep blue California wanted to end Sanctuary Cities in their state?

If we were an organized political movement, someone might throw something up on a CA ballot regarding this and see what happens.

Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 12:09 PM (qRZ4c)

819 A custom Trump HD would be classy and luxurious.

And probably very golden.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 01, 2017 12:09 PM (ul9CR)

820 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:08 PM (ThL6N)

Yes I am, You on the other hand are like Explosive Diarrhea

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:09 PM (y3aQB)

821 By the mid 1850's there was a growing sentiment in the South (though still a minority view) that focused on the Golden Circle and attributed great importance to the expansion of slavery to the Caribbean and Central America (that is a re-introduction of slavery where it had been abolished) under the American (until 1861)flag. Initiatives in this direction would have placed free-soilers in the same hardened political position as the abolitionists.

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I've read specation that but for Nat Turner, slavery may have disappeared of its own accord.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 12:09 PM (Nwg0u)

822 In all do respect ! GO FUCK YOURSELF

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:06 PM (y3aQB)

There are other sites on the internet. If you like this kind of discourse perhaps you should try somewhere else.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 01, 2017 12:09 PM (rF0hx)

823 820 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:08 PM (ThL6N)

Yes I am, You on the other hand are like Explosive Diarrhea
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:09 PM (y3aQB)

===================

You have no idea.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:10 PM (ThL6N)

824 >>Yes I am, You on the other hand are like Explosive Diarrhea

Dial it down a couple notches.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:10 PM (/tuJf)

825 >>Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer...How can someone this
stupid be an elected leader? What does that say about her constituents?

She's stupid AND she thinks Americans are stupid.
Half the time she's clearly saying this stuff because she thinks people will buy it. Problem is she's lied so dang much she can't keep 'em straight from reality.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 12:10 PM (NOIQH)

826 I don't much care how Trump does it, as long as he does it!
This is war. Our leader is not and never will be perfect, but we fight with what we have.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at February 01, 2017 12:10 PM (m3iiU)

827 Picking on Twitterers like Rick Wilson is a waste of breath, though.

Eh.

I don't think that douchebag can get kicked in the teeth enough.

Friend of the blog or not.

Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 12:11 PM (tewYv)

828 Wait. There is a website called MishTalk.com.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at February 01, 2017 12:12 PM (xeeHA)

829 Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at February 01, 2017 12:07 PM
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So glad you're going to contact your doctor, it's the right thing to do.

Also, when dealing with any kind of psych meds, it might take a while to find the one that works best for you. It's not a one size fits all kind of thing, and it might take a few months to find what's right for you. Please be patient with the process.

{{hugs}}

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 12:12 PM (J5mC3)

830 did I someone post something about H1Bs ?

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 12:12 PM (c6/9Q)

831 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:08 PM (ThL6N)

Yes I am, You on the other hand are like Explosive Diarrhea
Posted by: EVLINC!
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Personal insults are akin to buying a one-way ticket on the Ban Train.

If I were you, I would stop digging.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 12:13 PM (ZO497)

832 I don't much care how Trump does it, as long as he does it!
This is war. Our leader is not and never will be perfect, but we fight with what we have.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at February 01, 2017 12:10 PM (m3iiU)

I will not agree with everything Trump does, But if the NeverTrumpers thought & still think FAB would be better !
find a new party

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:13 PM (y3aQB)

833 Friend of the blog or not.
Posted by: blaster at February 01, 2017 12:11 PM (tewYv)

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At this point I would have to go with "not".

Posted by: Flyboy at February 01, 2017 12:13 PM (R3Jti)

834
Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer...

Street gangs make us safer.

Posted by: San Fran Gran Nan at February 01, 2017 12:13 PM (IqV8l)

835 Even if it isn't (and you can't tell me that it isn't), it reeks of crony capitalism swamp water bullcrap.
***
I think it is pretty darn clear that Trump is buying off one of the biggest alligators in the swamp with the Chao nomination to give him room to go after the majority of them...


Posted by: 18-1 at February 01, 2017 12:13 PM (X7E8f)

836 832 I will not agree with everything Trump does, But if the NeverTrumpers thought & still think FAB would be better !
find a new party
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:13 PM (y3aQB)

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Who's advocating that who's still Republican?

Name some names.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:13 PM (ThL6N)

837 Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer...

Said Kate Steinle ....never

Posted by: deplorable donna at February 01, 2017 12:14 PM (O2RFr)

838 Picking on Twitterers like Rick Wilson is a waste of breath, though.

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Probably.

I am thinking more along the lines of the FOX newsies who wanted Hillary to win so that they could be the conservative voice in the wilderness for 4 more years.

Yeah , you Krauthammer and Chris Wallace and all the others that are currently whining about " ooooh poor deployment" and "not well thought out".

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at February 01, 2017 12:14 PM (toH8T)

839
Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer...
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Hey those illegals are just doing the drunk driving Americans won't do.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 01, 2017 12:14 PM (X7E8f)

840 803 In regards to Harley Davidson -


I just called their offices in Milwaukee. They said they did NOT cancel a tour by Trump. They said there was some preliminary activity trying to schedule a meeting but it has not been scheduled as of yet. They said they are HAPPY to have the President tour the company, and are unhappy that the media is reporting otherwise.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 01, 2017 12:06 PM (bpfzP)

Good to know.

During the Trump era, it might be a good idea to remember the media lies to us and we shouldn't immediately buy into whatever they report.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 12:15 PM (ZM2xo)

841 NOW HE'S CAPONE-HITLER!


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And Valentine's Day is coming up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 12:15 PM (Nwg0u)

842 Who's advocating that who's still Republican?

Kristol, Wilson go find the others

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:15 PM (y3aQB)

843 >>Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer...


Makes your Democrat seats safer from a GOP opponent.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 12:15 PM (NOIQH)

844 Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer...How can someone this stupid be an elected leader? What does that say about her constituents?
Posted by: IC


Too much botox rots the brain.


San Francisco...
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I'm going with psychologically deluded. Aka "delusional." Not reality based.

However, I sincerely believe they think what they say reflects reality.

But it does not.

Because "mental illness"

They keep getting elected because there are a lot of people with the same delusions, plus... free sh*t.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 12:15 PM (J5mC3)

845 Twitter is more effective than email in getting to Harley Davidson.

The wimps there said that they never heard of Trump's planned visit.

Tweet them using @harleydavidson, and tell them you ain't buyin' no more, and telling all your riding buddies.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 01, 2017 12:15 PM (U6f54)

846
Picking on Twitterers like Rick Wilson is a waste of breath, though.

You can just as easily say that commenting on blogs is a waste of breath.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 01, 2017 12:16 PM (IqV8l)

847 I saw Explosive Diarrhea open up for Slayer at the Roseland in '99.

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 12:16 PM (r/0kC)

848 Now I'm glad DHS armed up. I think they going to need some overwhelming fire power in the next couple of months.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 01, 2017 12:16 PM (6LwXe)

849 Sadly I think CA is a lost cause - hope I am mistaken but the thing I hear folks I think are rational say...just too indoctrinated in stupid.

Posted by: IC at February 01, 2017 12:17 PM (a0IVu)

850 Our local paper's letters to the editor was full of prog rage and angst today. One writer even suggested our military should refuse to serve under Trump.

I don't believe I've ever seen so many unhinged leftards.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 01, 2017 12:17 PM (PY9jH)

851 You can write a long,long book filled with all the stupid stuff Nancy Pelosi has said.

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 12:17 PM (r/0kC)

852 Replace .gov loans by the endowments and let them be bankruptcy dischargeable. Then we'll see how many Art Major Baristas Academia thinks we really need.

Posted by: DaveA at February 01, 2017 12:17 PM (8J/Te)

853 842 Who's advocating that who's still Republican?

Kristol, Wilson go find the others
Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:15 PM (y3aQB)

==================

I've really missed those moments when they've said, "Damn, Hillary would have been better."

Also...I thought Wilson left the party. Maybe I'm confusing him with someone else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:17 PM (ThL6N)

854 I did the math and we in Baltimore are killing Chicago in murders per resident.

Baltimore 2016 murders 344= 1 per 1800 residents
Chicago 2016 murders 760= 1 per 3500 residents.

Suck our dust Chicago!! They would have to get to 1500 to catch us.

For comparison, NYC had 330 murders last year. They would need to get to over 4700 to catch us.
We win!

Posted by: Timon at February 01, 2017 12:17 PM (27k1O)

855 Begun the Bond Wars have.

Ian Fleming wanted David Niven to play Bond in the films.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 01, 2017 12:18 PM (X6fMO)

856 re: the Roman Army

"On campaign, the daily routine was to tear down the camp -- which involved removing a stockade -- marching, then building a new camp, with a surrounding ditch, dirt rampart, and stockade on top the rampart."

There was another factor to this; it was official Roman policy to always keep the troops busy doing something. They had learned from many years of experience that a bunch of army grunts with nothing to do generally find any number of ways to cause trouble.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 01, 2017 12:18 PM (V2Yro)

857 During the Trump era, it might be a good idea to remember the media lies to us and we shouldn't immediately buy into whatever they report.
---

They totally made up a story about Nancy Sinatra not wanting My Way used at the inaugural ball; I don't think we discussed that at the time, but it was totally fictitious, and she called them out on it.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 12:18 PM (J5mC3)

858 as long as Hollywood runs california it is a lost cause. as long as china runs hollywood california is a lost cause.

Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 12:18 PM (c6/9Q)

859 Hey those illegals are just doing the drunk driving Americans won't do.

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Didja see DeCommio is promising to protect illegal undocumented drunken drivers from deportation? They're just drinking the hooch Americans won't drink.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 12:18 PM (Nwg0u)

860 The wimps there said that they never heard of Trump's planned visit.
===

HA

That's hilarious!

Probably that one guy in legal with a ponytail and a European manbag. " Trump is bad for business, boss! And he scares me!"

Put enough pressure on and the sane voices at corporate will be heard. Twitter is probably the best way to do that.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at February 01, 2017 12:18 PM (toH8T)

861 I live in Cali. So much hope in this state once. I stay because my entire family is here, and it's the only place I've known, but I've been making escape plans for over a year now. I can't take it much longer.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 01, 2017 12:18 PM (S2VsH)

862 >>I saw Explosive Diarrhea open up for Slayer at the Roseland in '99.

I saw Explosive Diarrhea open for The Butthole Surfers at The Garden in '04.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:18 PM (/tuJf)

863 types

deletes

rethinks

no stay with the delete

types some more

deletes some more!

There I feel better that I got that off my chest!

Whew!!!!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at February 01, 2017 12:18 PM (d76uN)

864 850 Our local paper's letters to the editor was full of prog rage and angst today. One writer even suggested our military should refuse to serve under Trump.

I don't believe I've ever seen so many unhinged leftards.

In their hysterical addled little brains they believe their "protests" and rants will change the election....

Posted by: deplorable donna at February 01, 2017 12:19 PM (O2RFr)

865 During the Trump era, it might be a good idea to
remember the media lies to us and we shouldn't immediately buy into
whatever they report.



Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 12:15 PM (ZM2xo)
======================

Yes, they are running out of power and out of weapons. They've lost the Presidency, the Senate, the House, most of the governors and most of the State houses. They are about to lose the Court. All that's left are riots, protests, and media lies. There will be a lot of traps laid.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 01, 2017 12:19 PM (bpfzP)

866 Tweet them using @harleydavidson, and tell them you ain't buyin' no more, and telling all your riding buddies.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 01, 2017 12:15 PM (U6f54)

See 803 and 845.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 12:19 PM (ZM2xo)

867 "Pelosi says sanctuary cities makes us all safer..."

Oh boy, this is gonna be great!

Posted by: Flounder at February 01, 2017 12:19 PM (97XyN)

868 Tweet them using @harleydavidson, and tell them you ain't buyin' no more, and telling all your riding buddies.



Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 01, 2017 12:15 PM (U6f54)
=========================


Don't do that, littl shyning man. It's Fake News.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 01, 2017 12:20 PM (bpfzP)

869
Haven't noticed them having much affect lately.

===

McCain and Graham?

McConnell and Ryan?


Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at February 01, 2017 12:20 PM (toH8T)

870 Recall that it was Pelosi who claimed that unemployment was good for the economy, and, oh yes, 'Funemployment'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 12:20 PM (ZO497)

871 Our local paper's letters to the editor was full of prog rage and angst today. One writer even suggested our military should refuse to serve under Trump.

I don't believe I've ever seen so many unhinged leftards.
---

Please remember... people acting unhinged makes good tv. It makes good reading in a newspaper. At least that's the opinion of the media.

There could be a peaceful protest of 500 people, and they will focus on the 25 nut jobs screaming.

Same with the paper. They could be getting hundreds of letters supporting Trump, but they're probably left, so they publish the crazy leftist letter.

Sigh.

They are distorting everything. They have since the election season began. So please don't feel discouraged.

Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 12:20 PM (J5mC3)

872 They totally made up a story about Nancy Sinatra not wanting My Way used at the inaugural ball; I don't think we discussed that at the time, but it was totally fictitious, and she called them out on it.

-
Her picture scared me. Her boots aren't made for walking anymore.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 12:21 PM (Nwg0u)

873 >>McCain and Graham?

>>McConnell and Ryan?


Are all pretty much falling in line. Particularly McConnell and Ryan.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:21 PM (/tuJf)

874 Second look at yelling at clouds?

Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 12:21 PM (sBOL1)

875 They will undermine Trump at every turn.

So sorry. The civil war may no longer be hot.

But it's really, really cold.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at February 01, 2017 12:21 PM (toH8T)

876 It's funny, for a deep blue state, DE doesn't seem to be that unhinged. I don't know if Blue Hen is still lurking out there, but I'd like to hear his perspective and that of other First Staters.
Posted by: kallisto

Hello,
still lurking when life permits.


This state is batshit crazy. The Biden worship is sickening, and locals here are posturing about how they are the new resistance. I hate this place now.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 01, 2017 12:21 PM (326rv)

877 I just got a call from that doctor down at MUSC that is supposed to do my operation. They got a copy of the stress test I had run a couple of weeks ago which my doctor had said was OK. They said there was a "slight abnormality" and even though the EKG they ran was OK they want a cardiologist to sign off on the operation.


Even though they have the stress test and a building full of cardiologists here they want me to get a cardiologist here. We don't have one here. They work out of a hospital out of Columbia with an office here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 12:22 PM (mpXpK)

878 Did anyone see the grief-stricken mother whose teenaged son was tortured and set on fire by an illegal, take on Piglosi on CNN last night?

She brought me to tears. She asked Piglosi if she could look at her sleeping grandchildren and choose one she'd be willing to give up to an illegal.

Nancy was....displeased.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 01, 2017 12:22 PM (PY9jH)

879
McCain and Graham?

McConnell and Ryan?


Rubio, Murkowski, Collins

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:22 PM (y3aQB)

880 871 Our local paper's letters to the editor was full of prog rage and angst today. One writer even suggested our military should refuse to serve under Trump."

It's a safe bet that the writer doesn't actually know anybody in the military.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 12:22 PM (ZM2xo)

881 873 Are all pretty much falling in line. Particularly McConnell and Ryan.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:21 PM (/tuJf)

====================

Doesn't matter. Gotta yell.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:22 PM (ThL6N)

882
Wasn't there some poll where like 75% of deep blue California wanted to end Sanctuary Cities in their state?
Posted by: Maritime at February 01, 2017 12:09 PM (qRZ4c)


When you're paying $3,500 a month rent for a small studio apt so you can live in San Fransisco even the most liberal of liberals get sick and tired of the constant property crime and filth


Posted by: Deplore Male Logic at February 01, 2017 12:23 PM (lKyWE)

883 I think Pelosi was abducted by aliens long ago and they left in her place a robotic shell only capable of reflexively speaking in Lefty talking points. There is no thought, just regurgitation of what's been programmed in.

Posted by: Marmo, so tired of lefties at February 01, 2017 12:23 PM (xujbM)

884 Our local paper's letters to the editor was full of prog rage and angst today. One writer even suggested our military should refuse to serve under Trump.

I don't believe I've ever seen so many unhinged leftards




I don't believe I've seen so many who don't understand how shit works.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 12:23 PM (W2Fol)

885 Second look at yelling at clouds?

Didn't he just take Acela home?

Posted by: DaveA at February 01, 2017 12:23 PM (8J/Te)

886 877 I just got a call from that doctor down at MUSC that is supposed to do my operation. They got a copy of the stress test I had run a couple of weeks ago which my doctor had said was OK. They said there was a "slight abnormality" and even though the EKG they ran was OK they want a cardiologist to sign off on the operation.


Even though they have the stress test and a building full of cardiologists here they want me to get a cardiologist here. We don't have one here. They work out of a hospital out of Columbia with an office here.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 12:22 PM (mpXpK)

====================

I've somehow completely missed the fact that you're at MUSC.

I live on James Island and work on Daniel Island. If you need anything you can let me know, and I'll do what I can.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:24 PM (ThL6N)

887 In their hysterical addled little brains they believe their "protests" and rants will change the election....
Posted by: deplorable donna
----

Actually, they are trying to cripple Trump, long term. I will add that, abetted by the entirety of the media, they have always been successful in doing this.

I can't find a good reason to doubt that they will succeed this time also.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 12:24 PM (ZO497)

888 Are all pretty much falling in line. Particularly McConnell and Ryan.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:21 PM (/tuJf)

yeah the Obamacare repeal is flying through the house & Senate isn't it?

Just like The Godfather, Keep your friends close & your enemies closer

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:24 PM (y3aQB)

889 Wow: Journalist advocates for political violence to stop Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu3OPaNl3jU

Oh, and Sudanese who lives in London. Naturally.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 01, 2017 12:24 PM (NOIQH)

890 Vic, you continue to be in my prayers. {hug}

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 01, 2017 12:24 PM (PY9jH)

891 The "scandal" of the day is the "rumor" that Melania and Barron are not going to move onto the WH but stay in NY.... I don't blame Her...

Posted by: deplorable donna at February 01, 2017 12:24 PM (O2RFr)

892 861
I live in Cali. So much hope in this state once. I stay because my
entire family is here, and it's the only place I've known, but I've been
making escape plans for over a year now. I can't take it much longer.


Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 01, 2017 12:18 PM (S2VsH)
Us too, Rusty Nail. Hubby was born here and lived through the RR years here so he is quite sad at the prospect. But the state is just ridiculous now.

Posted by: IC at February 01, 2017 12:25 PM (a0IVu)

893 Vic, you continue to be in my prayers.

In mine too...

Posted by: deplorable donna at February 01, 2017 12:25 PM (O2RFr)

894
I am thinking more along the lines of the FOX newsies who wanted Hillary to win so that they could be the conservative voice in the wilderness for 4 more years.


Mark Levin wanted the same thing.

These 'performers' on the radio NEED Conservatives to literally depend on them for daily comfort and guidance.

Then Trump came along...

Posted by: Soothsayer GT with Electronic Fuel Injection at February 01, 2017 12:25 PM (prTbl)

895 She brought me to tears. She asked Piglosi if she could look at her sleeping grandchildren and choose one she'd be willing to give up to an illegal.

Nancy was....displeased.


Fuck Nancy. Right in her ass.

Katie Steinle is STILL unavailable for comment.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 12:25 PM (W2Fol)

896 Are all pretty much falling in line. Particularly McConnell and Ryan.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:21 PM (/tuJf)



====================



Doesn't matter. Gotta yell.

===

Yeah. I should definitely pat Mr. Math Witch Ryan on the head whenever he does exactly what he was elected to do in the first place.

You know Paul Ryan? The guy who refused to speak Trump's name on the campaign trail?

I'd sooner trust a wounded rattlesnake.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at February 01, 2017 12:25 PM (toH8T)

897 891 What?They said that from when he was elected,she was going to stay in NYC until school finished for Barron.

Posted by: steevy at February 01, 2017 12:26 PM (r/0kC)

898 Because "mental illness"

They keep getting elected because there are a lot of people with the same delusions, plus... free sh*t.
Posted by: shibumi, a rational single white female and kitteh servant at February 01, 2017 12:15 PM (J5mC3)

I realized awhile back, that the entire Lefts philosophy is based on the belief that they can overcome base Human Nature, and Reality.

They attempt to mask it... but every single one of their outlooks, is anti Survival of the species... is against the way people are programmed (whither by God, or Evolution).

Men and Women the same? Hell no...

Abortion? How anti survival can you get?

Welfare? ie teaching people NOT to work?

Immigration? Allowing other tribes to come in and take your stuff?

Multiculturalism? Making it so others don't even have to assimilate into your tribe?

Gays and Women in the Military? yeah, that makes our military more able to Kill the enemy...

Race Relations? Hell, they are the ones who categorize us by Race, then use that in the LEGAL arena to reward some and penalize others.

I could go on and on... but on every issue the Left flies in the face of Human Nature... which is designed for Race Survival...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 01, 2017 12:26 PM (qf6WZ)

899 886 I've somehow completely missed the fact that you're at MUSC.



I live on James Island and work on Daniel Island. If you need anything you can let me know, and I'll do what I can.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:24 PM (ThL6N)

I am not there now, but I will be next week. I am pretty sure they are going to keep me tied to the bed for a week or more.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 12:26 PM (mpXpK)

900 Nood

Posted by: Flyboy at February 01, 2017 12:26 PM (R3Jti)

901 The "scandal" of the day is the "rumor" that Melania and Barron are not going to move onto the WH but stay in NY.... I don't blame Her...

Posted by: deplorable donna at February 01, 2017 12:24 PM (O2RFr)
..............

The fumigation service underestimated the size of the job.

Posted by: wth at February 01, 2017 12:26 PM (HgMAr)

902
Nood







Nood


Posted by: Soothsayer GT with Electronic Fuel Injection at February 01, 2017 12:27 PM (prTbl)

903 I don't believe I've ever seen so many unhinged leftards

I don't believe I've seen so many who don't understand how shit works.
Posted by: rickb223
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It is a mass, self-induced, panic/anxiety attack.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 12:27 PM (ZO497)

904 Second look at yelling at clouds?

Posted by: bluebell at February 01, 2017 12:21 PM (sBOL1)

I've looked at clouds from both sides now,

And still somehow, it's cloud illusions i recall...

Posted by: tbodie at February 01, 2017 12:27 PM (0DVOr)

905 897 891 What?They said that from when he was elected,she was going to stay in NYC until school finished for Barron.

Supposedly they are "re-evaluating" that...

Posted by: deplorable donna at February 01, 2017 12:27 PM (O2RFr)

906 Her picture scared me. Her boots aren't made for walking anymore.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 12:21 PM (Nwg0u)

People are generally better looking at age 25 than they are at age 75.

It's strange how that works.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 12:27 PM (ZM2xo)

907 890
Vic, you continue to be in my prayers. {hug}


Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 01, 2017 12:24 PM (PY9jH)

Thanks

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 12:27 PM (mpXpK)

908 883 I think Pelosi was abducted by aliens long ago and they left in her place a robotic shell only capable of reflexively speaking in Lefty talking points. There is no thought, just regurgitation of what's been programmed in.
Posted by: Marmo, so tired of lefties at February 01, 2017 12:23 PM (xujbM)

If so they're still not over the Uncanny Valley problem.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at February 01, 2017 12:27 PM (RD7QR)

909 Just like The Godfather, Keep your friends close & your enemies closer



I prefer my friends close and my enemies dead. But that's just me. YMMV.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 01, 2017 12:27 PM (W2Fol)

910 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 12:26 PM (mpXpK)

------------------------------

You are in my Thoughts & Prayers Vic !! Beat that Bastard again !!!

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:27 PM (y3aQB)

911 Second look at yelling at clouds?

===

Clouds have punchable faces.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at February 01, 2017 12:27 PM (toH8T)

912 >>yeah the Obamacare repeal is flying through the house & Senate isn't it?

This may come as a shock but unwinding a law that affects every single American, the entire insurance industry and basically 1/5th of the American economy is a tad more difficult than writing an Executive Order. And if the Trump and the Republicans fuck it up it is going to hamstring the rest of Trump's term.

It took Democrats years to implement Obamacare because of the scope of what they were doing, it is not going to go away overnight. But it will go.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:28 PM (/tuJf)

913 I think Pelosi was abducted by aliens long ago and they left in her place a robotic shell only capable of reflexively speaking in Lefty talking points. There is no thought, just regurgitation of what's been programmed in.
Posted by: Marmo, so tired of lefties at February 01, 2017 12:23 PM (xujbM)


Locking Pelosi and DWS in the same room would create the most hilarious and terrifying feedback loop ever.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 01, 2017 12:28 PM (8nWyX)

914 we should really vet all those Trump cabinet picks very closely but those peeps coming from the middle east that love peace and allah, they should get a free pass asap.

This is the opposition party???? Man, we are gonna keep winning Big league!

Posted by: duncan at February 01, 2017 12:28 PM (XKLkE)

915 912 It took Democrats years to implement Obamacare because of the scope of what they were doing, it is not going to go away overnight. But it will go.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:28 PM (/tuJf)

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Doesn't matter. Gotta yell.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 12:28 PM (ThL6N)

916 more nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 01, 2017 12:29 PM (mpXpK)

917 I live in Cali. So much hope in this state once. I stay because my
entire family is here, and it's the only place I've known, but I've been
making escape plans for over a year now. I can't take it much longer.


Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 01, 2017 12:18 PM (S2VsH)
Us too, Rusty Nail. Hubby was born here and lived through the RR years here so he is quite sad at the prospect. But the state is just ridiculous now.
Posted by: IC at February 01, 2017 12:25 PM (a0IVu)

Shit... I'd made my escape... was gone for many years...

Had to come back to care for my Mom.... who we could not blast out of here with explosives...

But once she's passed.... I'll be gone as fast as I can sell the damn house....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 01, 2017 12:29 PM (qf6WZ)

918 Time's inauguration edition featured an article, featuring a photo of the one! The only! David Brock! about the Donks planning their "revenge". Remember all those revenge articles acter Obozo was elected?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at February 01, 2017 12:30 PM (Nwg0u)

919 Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:28 PM (/tuJf)

I will agree to disagree, if you want to trust Ryan & McTurtle who have been career politcal hacks, That is well within you rights

Posted by: EVLINC! at February 01, 2017 12:30 PM (y3aQB)

920 745 there is rumor going around that there is going to be a supreme court resignation
Posted by: runner at February 01, 2017 11:52 AM (c6/9Q)

The rumor last night was the Kennedy resigned and Trump was going to announce it and nominate two guys.

It is also rumored that Melanie Trump is secretly obsessed with me and hoping that I will move to NY to be with her, where we'll invited Giada Delaurentis over for cooking and threesomes.

Sure. A Justice will resign... eventually. Unless they die first. Rumor has it, also, that the sun will rise in the east every day for at least the next 4 years.

Posted by: Damiano at February 01, 2017 12:30 PM (71OEY)

921 Doesn't matter. Gotta yell.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Nevertrumper amnesty ain't happening.

Also there is a difference between bureaucratic headaches of Obamacare and flat out opposing repeal.

But with these snakes, you will never know which one it is.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at February 01, 2017 12:31 PM (toH8T)

922 I can't find a good reason to doubt that they will succeed this time also.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 01, 2017 12:24 PM (ZO497)

I have two good reasons:

1) President

2) Trump

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at February 01, 2017 12:32 PM (Jcg9Q)

923 685 670 Far from being a boon, the effect of slavery on the economy of the South was almost wholly negative
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With respect to the North and industry perhaps. The South was certainly convinced of the superior efficiency of their slave plantations versus the then free-labor plantations of the Caribbean (not to mention Free Haiti).
Posted by: RioBravo at February 01, 2017 11:34 AM (SsblQ)

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Thomas Jefferson was once challenged to prove that slavery was more economically advantageous to him than paid labor would be.

He never finished the analysis.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at February 01, 2017 11:39 AM (ThL6N)


Others did finish the analysis, and they concluded that, except for the appreciation/speculation bubble in the value of slaves bred here that started after importation of slaves was ended in 1807, farming using slave labor never made money (source for the reference is Allan Nevins history of the Civil War, although I do not remember who he was actually citing). Further, the agricultural methods used at the time were depleting the soil so that farmlands in the Old South were rapidly becoming unusable for cotton growing. Slavery was just a blight in every sense of the word.

Posted by: HTL at February 01, 2017 12:35 PM (oEoeA)

924 Yeah, the "at least one minority member present" rule made sense if the "loyal opposition" was fully involved in the confirmation process, like attending committee votes. The purpose of the rule, I believe is to prevent the majority party from ramming through legislation in committee and not informing the minority party that such a meeting was taking place.

That's one thing. It's a travesty when the minority routinely refuse to attend a scheduled meetings for the purpose of preventing the entire Senate from performing its constitutional duties.


Posted by: mrp at February 01, 2017 12:36 PM (JBggj)

925 912 >>yeah the Obamacare repeal is flying through the house & Senate isn't it? "

Jeez, Trump hasn't been in office 2 full weeks yet, he's already done a shit ton and we're complaining about O care not being repealed yet?

Obama and the Dems deliberately made sure it would difficult to repeal - the GOP has to be careful about how they handle it or the backlash will be terrible.

You know what the Left has that the Right doesn't? Patience.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 01, 2017 12:47 PM (ZM2xo)

926 >>I will agree to disagree, if you want to trust Ryan & McTurtle who have been career politcal hacks, That is well within you rights

Well thanks. But I disagree that they have been career political hacks. Watch what happens now that there is a Republican President.

You will see the same effectiveness that they had in the minority from Pelosi and Schumer. It's how the system works.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:48 PM (/tuJf)

927 Team,

It has been brought to our attention that Ace of Spades is not trending on Facebook, Yahoo nor is it in the top Google search results, when people seek information on Hitler. Please ensure that Figuratively, Nearly, Like or Literally Hitler, is mentioned in every posting.

Thank you,

Donald Literally Hitler Trump el Kommandant of the Fascist Republic

Posted by: Figuratively, Literally Hitler at February 01, 2017 12:52 PM (7N6ox)

928 This may come as a shock but unwinding a law that affects every single American, the entire insurance industry and basically 1/5th of the American economy is a tad more difficult than writing an Executive Order.


Posted by: JackStraw at February 01, 2017 12:28 PM (/tuJf)


No, it isn't. BarkyCare is hereby repealed. Done.

The Vichy GOP turds claim that they have already passed repeal bills 53 times during Barky's reign ... but they can't get one bill out on the floor, now? Bullshit.

And for those poor, widdle souls who are going to "lose" their health insurance (that mine went up over 200% in order to pay for) they can all just suck my dick. No one is giving any thought to the way my costs went through the friggin roof and how my actual health care has been destroyed. No .... it's only the welfare leeches who all the Vichy turds are worried about ...\

FFS. I am well damn sick and tired of this bullshit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 01, 2017 01:05 PM (zc3Db)

929 Posted by: HTL at February 01, 2017 12:35 PM (oEoeA)

re: Slavery: Adam Smith thought slavery was pernicious. The idea that capitalism and slavery are somehow inextricably linked is hooey. Bad in agriculture, bad in industry.

It is one of those ideas that sounds obviously advantageous from a purely capital point of view ("Hey, if I could just own people, I could tell them what to do, and they would have to, and I wouldn't have to pay them") but just isn't true.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 01, 2017 01:07 PM (CPk08)

930 Indigo needs hot weather and is grown in the South. The North would have had access to it from England though. I think the grey was from butternut hulls, mordanted in iron (which tends to produce darker colors.)

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 01, 2017 01:08 PM (nIGPZ)

931 Sucks to be Amalekite.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 01, 2017 01:41 PM (FtrY1)

932 is that painting from when Joshua fit the battle of Jerico?

Posted by: docweasel at February 01, 2017 03:40 PM (yjdpW)

933 I thought Biden was supposed to be curing cancer?

Posted by: torabora at February 02, 2017 02:54 AM (oK58D)

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