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John Ekdahl Asks Liberal Journalists a Question and They All Light Their Hair on Fire in Response

I'm genuinely jealous -- I ask liberal reporters a lot of questions on Twitter, and they just completely ignore me. What it was about this question that made it catnip for commies, I don't know. But I'm going to study the boy's technique.


Sean Davis rounds up the hysterical overreactions by people in the media -- and liberals who apparently consider themselves to be reporters by proxy (I guess on the theory that anyone on Twitter is a "reporter") -- and it's a sumptuous feast of stupid.

There were basically three types of hysterical response to a simple question about truck owners: 1) shut up, 2) you're stupid and/or sexist and/or racist, and 3) whatever, liar, trucks aren't popular (far and away my favorite delusional response to a simple question from a group of people who want you to believe they're extremely concerned about "fake news"). It turns out that people who are paid large sums of money to opine on what Americans outside the Acela province think get very upset if you demonstrate that they don't actually know any of the people about whom they pretend to be experts.

Flabby flack Frank Luntz in particular really wanted to do a deep dive on the numbers before conceding that these trucks were in fact the best-selling models of light vehicles in America, questioning whether the trucks sold well to individual customers, or were just bought en masse for construction fleets:



I don't understand his resistance to accepting a well-evidenced claim as true, especially given that his petty cavil, even if true, would not alter John's point that a great many Americans own pickups, and it would say something about the insularity of the political and media classes (but I repeat myself) if they could not even think of a distant relative who owned a pickup.

As to progs' hysterical overreactions, I can only make a simple, obvious observation.

It's about ego.

There is this weird insistence progs and journalists (but I repeat myself) in particular have -- but everyone has this egotistical kick to some degree -- that all of human experience resides somewhere within them.

A guy who's never been poor in his life will begin kinda making up bullshit about having to scrap by in college to prove he's seen that side of life, for example.

There's just this weird, egotistical unwillingness to confess that one is a human being -- and not God, who is posited to understand everything. People have this weird blasphemous tic about insisting that they are the Alpha and Omega of human experience, that all human lives are lived somewhere in their soul, and that they represent the summa of the human condition.

Progs are especially insistent on this, because they claim to have greater Empathy and Cosmopolitaness than anyone else. (Despite the fact that they're nasty buggers who have lived all their life in a six by six block range in Brooklyn, except for that one semester abroad in Barcelona that they never shut the fuck up about.)

Journalists are also very insistent on this, as the pretensions of their hack jobs require them to pretend at knowledge they simply do not have and have no interest in having ("Who cares about trucks?!!?"), but are required to bluff and bullshit about on a daily basis.

Put the two into the same body and you have a maelstrom of credential-grabbing, resume-forging egostorm bullshit.

I don't know why people have such trouble with the three words that are the beginning of all wisdom:

I.

Don't.

Know.

Not "I don't care" or "Why is that even important?!," which are the college models of the proudly ignorant.

But a simple confession of not knowing.

Including its variants, such as, "That's outside my range of knowledge" and "I really don't know anything about that."

Personally, I have never owned a truck and I'm not sure I know anyone who owns one. (I know people who definitely did own trucks when I knew them, but some I haven't seen in a while so I don't know if they still have them or have gotten an SUV or something.)

So the truck experience is outside my experience.

I don't know why that's so hard to admit. I guess it's hard to admit for the extremely narcissistic and egotistical, who feel they have to pretend they know everything about everything, that they are large and contain multitudes, and that God has prepared a mansion for all of the Saved to live in, and it's called Their Super-Good Brain.

But I don't pretend that, so it's really not a big deal to me.

Genteel Ignorance: I've noted before that it was (is) a pretension of aristocracy to take pride in not knowing things about manual labor and ordinary lives. Someone who wishes to signal he's an aristocrat will make sure he knows all about fashion, but will also never actually stitch his togs, and will proudly announce that he can't stitch them.

It's an assertion of the division of labors between the Thinking Classes (guffaw) and the Working Classes.

This truck episode seems to be similar to that.

Posted by: Ace at 03:50 PM




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Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 04, 2017 03:48 PM (81UWZ)

2 Yeah - "None of MY friends buy trucks so how can they be popular."

But we still got Nixon and Trump. Reality once again trumps your fantasy.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 03:50 PM (idrE1)

3 Two of my sons own trucks. I guess that makes me a knuckle-dragging deplorable.

Posted by: Brown Line at January 04, 2017 03:50 PM (667Qv)

4 I tried to find the outrage earlier when I read this at Insty, and I'm still not seeing it.

I see a whole lot of answers and only a few that are really mockable.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 04, 2017 03:51 PM (ul9CR)

5 sons and s-i-l all drive trucks, Ram and Fords

one of them is yuuuge, bulging, beast, nicknamed Brodozer

Posted by: the Butcher at January 04, 2017 03:51 PM (AGJqR)

6 Provincial Rubes the lot of them.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 03:51 PM (QQ+il)

7 I can't remember when I didn't own a pickup.

Posted by: redenzo at January 04, 2017 03:51 PM (5wSNN)

8 In before I own a mansion and a yacht!

Posted by: son of hercules at January 04, 2017 03:51 PM (NBrh6)

9 Trucks are great to haul ass in.

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 04, 2017 03:51 PM (ONH2e)

10
Can you ask John Ekdahl if alternate-universe President-elect Carly Fiorina is done selecting her cabinet?

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 03:52 PM (4Ejxg)

11 It's one thing to not know anyone with a truck. It another to get butthurt when asked.

Posted by: Roy at January 04, 2017 03:52 PM (VndSC)

12 you know what truck rhymes with?

Posted by: Rick in SK at January 04, 2017 03:52 PM (/CIN4)

13 Methinks they doth protesteth too much, for they art whiny bitches, forsooth and all.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 04, 2017 03:52 PM (eGapT)

14 None of my friends own trucks. All of my neighbors do, so take that for what it's worth. I have flirted with the idea of getting a pickup, but that's mostly for tribal reasons. I do have some light hauling to do but I can/have rent U-hauls for that.

There's no telling what sets off one of these delicate princesses but perhaps the implication of the OP was that they weren't in the majority.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 04, 2017 03:52 PM (sh70B)

15 "Journalists are also very insistent on this, as the pretensions of their hack jobs require them to pretend at knowledge they simply do not have and have no interest in having ("Who cares about trucks?!!?"), but are required to bluff and bullshit about on a daily basis."

"I don't know why people have such trouble with the three words of wisdom: I. Don't. Know."
-------------

This is made worse by the internet, and it extends to non-journalists, as well. A basic, smart-sounding answer to more or less anything is at your fingertips (thanks, Wikipedia), and if you spend another thirty seconds on Google you can probably find someone with your preferred ideological spin on the issue. So everyone gets to pretend that they're smart.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 04, 2017 03:52 PM (xN1DB)

16 I guess it's hard to admit for the extremely narcissistic and egotistical, who feel they have to pretend they know everything about everything, that they are large and contain multitudes, and that God has prepared a mansion for all of the Saved to live in, and it's called Their Super-Good Brain.
--

My new response to most things liberal/leftist?

These people have personality disorders, and are consequently mentally ill.

/btw, personality disorders can be managed, but not cured.

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 03:52 PM (J5mC3)

17 I am momentarily truckless. I'm considering getting a utility trailer instead.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 03:52 PM (QQ+il)

18 i have a truck....most people i know have at least one truck in their family.....some of those people also have hybrids and gasp....a prius.......i don't know anyone with a fully electric car......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Happy Christmas at January 04, 2017 03:52 PM (0O7c5)

19
The thing was, all Ekdahl really was asking for was a straight-up "yes" or "no" answer.

But all the Brainy McBrainersons had to parse the question to death, looking for the hidden "gotchas". Or provide their trenchant and erroneous analysis of whether three models of pickup trucks REALLY were the top sellers and WHY. It was glorious.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Irredeemable Cycling Stars (TM) at January 04, 2017 03:53 PM (BK3ZS)

20 1970. Old red Chevy truck. Not mine. Belonged to a boy I knew. A really cute boy......I loved that truck.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 03:53 PM (bpfzP)

21 I know one person who owns a Prius. Out of hundreds and hundreds of people I know.

About 1/3 of the people I know own a pickup or SUV.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 04, 2017 03:53 PM (7ZVPa)

22 I've owned a truck. My best friend has a few of them. His son owns one. Hell, my mom and most of her friends owned them. Farming will tend to do that.

Considering a new truck right now. That boat ain't gonna tow itself.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 03:53 PM (/tuJf)

23 This is made worse by the internet, and it extends to non-journalists, as well. A basic, smart-sounding answer to more or less anything is at your fingertips (thanks, Wikipedia), and if you spend another thirty seconds on Google you can probably find someone with your preferred ideological spin on the issue. So everyone gets to pretend that they're smart.



Er yes ... quite.

*shifyeyes*

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 03:53 PM (QQ+il)

24 It takes a lot of humility and self-awareness to say "I don't know."

Posted by: sunny-dee at January 04, 2017 03:53 PM (QAOZh)

25 5 sons and s-i-l all drive trucks, Ram and Fords

one of them is yuuuge, bulging, beast, nicknamed Brodozer
Posted by: the Butcher at January 04, 2017 03:51 PM (AGJqR)

ahem, the vehicle has the nic, not the son

Posted by: the Butcher at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (AGJqR)

26 My cousin knows a guy with a truck!

Posted by: Journo-A-lister at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (Om16U)

27 Once you own a truck, you will wonder how you ever lived without one. That is, unless you live in the city. I worked upstate at a gas station - "side hustle" - while going to school, and we had some 60s-70s lady come up from the city who'd never pumped gas a day in her existence. That was a foreign to me as the truck owners to these elites. Yet, I helped her graciously.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (GX63o)

28
It was a gigantic #ClusterTruck

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Irredeemable Cycling Stars (TM) at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (BK3ZS)

29 Personally, I don't get buying a very expensive pick up truck if you're not going to be hauling stuff, for work or fun, in it. Girl who lives upstairs from me is about 5'1" & drives a double-cab Ram. But to each their own.

Posted by: josephistan at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (7HtZB)

30 Because they all live in big cities. If you have a truck in a big city, not only is it a pita to park, but you have to help EVERYONE you know in life to move.

If you have a truck in the south, none of this is a problem.

>questioning whether the trucks sold well to individual customers

This is hysterical, though.

Posted by: Lea at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (lIU4e)

31 -"sumptuous feast of stupid" is going into the vocabulary immediately.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (6gk0M)

32 I don't know why people have such trouble with the three words of wisdom: I. Don't. Know
***
It is a sign of maturity.

When I hit the point in my life where I could finally say that for the broad swath of things I had no interest in, and limited knowledge of, I found it...liberating.

No human being can know everything. But in modern, immature liberal land not knowing things is a sign of failure for some reason.

Or I should say, *admitting* to not knowing things. Because the left basically worships ignorance - it keeps people from having wrong thoughts.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (X7E8f)

33 uh...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, Chevy pickup driver at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (ZO497)

34 The little whatever-it-was over 'vehicle' was hilarious, too. Preening douchebags!

Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (eGapT)

35 20
1970. Old red Chevy truck. Not mine. Belonged to a boy I knew. A really cute boy......I loved that truck.


Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 03:53 PM (bpfzP)

all the cute boys drove trucks and played baseball...and actually worked on their trucks....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Happy Christmas at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (0O7c5)

36 We have a extended cab 88 Silverado and a Prius, which is nice when the Prius need to be washed - just throw it in the bed of the truck and haul it to the car wash.

Posted by: Roy at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (VndSC)

37 I understand in urban life you don't need a pickup. In Seinfeld, Kramer always had a guy for that. Bob Sacamanto? I think.

This is how I understand urban life.

Posted by: redenzo at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (5wSNN)

38
When I lived in LA, I used to see a whole lot of Chevy El Caminos, a model that is rare here in the northeast, and I always wanted one for some unknown reason.

Fuck journalists.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (mbhDw)

39 18 i have a truck....most people i know have at least one truck in their family...

We like to call that here, Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (dSqvH)

40 So the truck experience is outside my experience.

I don't know why that's so hard to admit. I guess it's hard to admit for the extremely narcissistic and egotistical, who feel they have to pretend they know everything about everything, that they are large and contain multitudes, and that God has prepared a mansion for all of the Saved to live in, and it's called Their Super-Good Brain.

++++

The 3 best selling vehicles in America are all pickup trucks. Anyone who claims to know the American people would surely know at least one person who owns a pickup truck.

They don't want to admit that their lives and all they know are contained in their tiny, little, unrepresentative bubble. They prefer the fiction that they are moderate, mainstream, impartial observers of the American condition.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (R+30W)

41 My favorite part is how some of the journalists assumed that John was trying to make a point about "Real Americans" when he obviously never made that point. They just projected that assumption onto his question.

That level of defensiveness really demonstrates a healthy and underlying happiness about who they are and what they stand for, eh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (/prE6)

42 I have a motorcycle (several, actually), so I have to have a pickup truck, or better yet, a friend with one who can drive it to the crash site.

Posted by: West at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (1Rgee)

43 Personally, I have never owned a truck and I'm not sure I know anyone who owns one. (I know people who definitely did own trucks when I knew them, but some I haven't seen in a while so I don't know if they still have them or have gotten an SUV or something.)

--------
So when are you coming to Fly-Over Country? We'll go to the gun ranges (indoor and outdoor) in my Chevy Z71 Silverado 1500 4x4 pickup truck. Shooting isn't your thing? I'll hook up the boat/trailer and we'll hit the lakes.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (voOPb)

44 I'll add that this Google-based know-it-all-ism comes from the same place as "I Love Science Sexually."

"Hey look, a cartoon about something called the Uncertainty Principle. Not really sure what that is but gimmie a sec to scan Wikipedia. Okay! Ha ha, I get the funny joke because I understand quantum physics, likely you rubes in Jesusland who hate science whydoyouhatescience???"

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (xN1DB)

45 9
Trucks are great to haul ass in.

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 04, 2017 03:51 PM (ONH2e)


Going my way?

Posted by: Lena Dunham at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (GX63o)

46 I was born and raised in the Bronx, I didn't even start driving until I was in my twenties, I now live in the outer burbs of NJ where most people have pickups as a second or third vehicle.

Or as I like to call it, the near West.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (Ln1SM)

47 Out here in flyover country, right now the temp is -3deg F, there's 4 inches of snow on top of 3 inches of ice and I'mma gonna fire up my pick'em-up truck, put it 4whl drive and drive to the bank to get some folding cash.

Also, I'm going to laugh at anybody I see in the ditch who drove off of the road because they don't have a pick-up with 4whl drive.

Posted by: Fritz at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (2Mnv1)

48 Also -- and Frank Luntz may not be aware of this -- it is possible to have a commercial vehicle which is ALSO your personal or primary vehicle. Like, there are a ton of contractor-types who live around me, and they are driving their trucks with their plumbing / contracting / electrician / HVAC company names on the side. Just because a truck was bought for Joe's Plumbing doesn't mean it isn't owned by a person who also uses it for other things.

Posted by: sunny-dee at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (QAOZh)

49 I have a Ram.

Posted by: Hope's Rolo at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (vtcmf)

50 40 The 3 best selling vehicles in America are all pickup trucks. Anyone who claims to know the American people would surely know at least one person who owns a pickup truck.

They don't want to admit that their lives and all they know are contained in their tiny, little, unrepresentative bubble. They prefer the fiction that they are moderate, mainstream, impartial observers of the American condition.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (R+30W)

========================

"Hmmm...maybe there are large sections of this country that I don't understand very well because their life experiences are so different from mine."
-None of these journalists.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (/prE6)

51
Have any of you 'journalists' ever been inside a Wal-Mart would be my next question.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (4Ejxg)

52 I kinda want a pickup. Of course I'm driving a 16 year old mini-van with no prospects of a new car anytime soon.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (Om16U)

53 Yep, Slap, "sumptuous feast of stupid" is yet another ace classic.


Sadly, very useful in today's America.


Speaking of which, while ace does the heavy lifting of unpacking, fisking, and incinerating the sad inadequacies of Our Lessers, I settle for things like "clueless, and actually stupid". Which I would argue are as accurate, though of course far less entertaining.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (QDnY+)

54 My two nephews have trucks. I have an SUV; before that was a red Sebring convertible that I really, really loved, and was taken away from me one night by a guy in front of me slamming on the brakes and wet pavement.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (hLRSq)

55 44... er... "UNLIKE you rubes in Jesusland"

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (xN1DB)

56 I have a 99 Ford Ranger (Red, with flames) and a 2011 Grand Sport (Red, with 430 hp - 3300 lbs)... The Corvette gets better mileage.

Posted by: Dave Head at January 04, 2017 03:57 PM (kH/If)

57 36 We have a extended cab 88 Silverado and a Prius, which is nice when the Prius need to be washed - just throw it in the bed of the truck and haul it to the car wash.
Posted by: Roy at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (VndSC)

Heh. My nephew drives two vehicles - one is his Miata, and the other is a giant pickup/snowplow for work. The Miata can fit in the bed of the truck. Both the same color, too.

Posted by: josephistan at January 04, 2017 03:57 PM (7HtZB)

58 I can't believe Nixon won. I don't know a single person that voted for Nixon.

Posted by: Chi at January 04, 2017 03:57 PM (/Z9VQ)

59 Let me guess, it's about people who drive pick-up trucks who are more likely to vote Republican in a election. That's why reporters are lighting their hair on fire.

Posted by: dantesed at January 04, 2017 03:57 PM (88xKn)

60 How many smallish cars, mini-vans, etc are fleet sales (for rental companies and other business purposes)?

Posted by: Kristian W Holvoet at January 04, 2017 03:57 PM (3bo9E)

61 And of course there's the virtue signalling: Only icky flyover types drive pickups. Just touching one makes you a racist sister-humper, etc. etc. etc.

Posted by: joncelli, not a pervert at all at January 04, 2017 03:57 PM (RD7QR)

62 >>When I lived in LA, I used to see a whole lot of Chevy El Caminos, a model that is rare here in the northeast, and I always wanted one for some unknown reason.

I had a buddy who had one years ago. Kind of a useless vehicle, not quite truck, not quite car, but it looked cool all pimped out.

I'm told a certain ex-president had an astro turf rug in the bed of his.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 03:57 PM (/tuJf)

63 Also... the libs/progs are "emotionally oversensitive" as well as "mentally ill."

Why else would you get upset that you don't know anyone with a pickup truck?



Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 03:57 PM (J5mC3)

64 We need to have a national conversation around firstieness and how to control it.

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at January 04, 2017 03:57 PM (DMUuz)

65 I'd love to have a Dodge Ram with a winch. I don't know why I want this, but I do.

Marc In Ohio

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 03:57 PM (6gk0M)

66 38
When I lived in LA, I used to see a whole lot of Chevy El Caminos, a model that is rare here in the northeast, and I always wanted one for some unknown reason.

Fuck journalists.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (mbhDw


You just wanted to fvck skinny girls compared to Bill Clinton banging razor backs in the back of his.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2017 03:57 PM (voOPb)

67 Just passed a guy in a commercial van earlier who had a pooch riding shotgun. So cute.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 04, 2017 03:58 PM (Om16U)

68 V 12.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 03:58 PM (6gk0M)

69 Come to think of it, it has been over a decade since I owned a car. All trucks.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 04, 2017 03:58 PM (7ZVPa)

70 Megan McArdle had an article several years ago about this divide. People living in flyover country would pay for a very nice truck/SUV whereas people in New York or DC would drive POS cars, if they owned one at all, while paying an extra 200k for a house in a slightly better school district.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 04, 2017 03:58 PM (FYrz1)

71
The dumb c*nt who tweeted "why does this fucking matter?" probably wants to get back to what really matters: white male racism and misogyny!

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 03:58 PM (4Ejxg)

72 Son in law owns a big Chevy truck. Don't ask me the model. It's big. He's an electrician and he's always hauling stuff either for his job of for remodeling their house. In the spring he uses it to get a full load of mulch, then topsoil for the garden. It's hard to haul dirt in a Hyundai.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 03:58 PM (bpfzP)

73
And then there was this guy --

Jay Cost
@JayCostTWS

If @JohnEkdahl had asked how many ppl bought a copy of "Hillbilly Elegy" and totally intend to read it someday, he'd have been fine.


Because that was better suited to providing the proper virtue signals than the icky pickup truck question was.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Irredeemable Cycling Stars (TM) at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (BK3ZS)

74 I own 3 trucks. Only 1 of them is parked on cinder blocks in my driveway!

Posted by: tbodie at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (/aFKY)

75 I'm not sure why the attempted "commercial vehicle" matters.

For purposes of this discussion, we're focusing on whether journalists are in touch with average Americans. Whether someone owns a pickup or drives his Honda Civic to the office, then gets in a pickup for work, we're still talking about blue collar types that journalists haven't befriended.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (xN1DB)

76
"Hmmm...maybe there are large sections of this country that I don't understand very well because their life experiences are so different from mine."
---

"Wha are things that journalists and liberals will never say for the win Alex."

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (J5mC3)

77 Most of the country's, and world's, "life experience" is different from mine.


Duh.


Which makes precisely zero difference, when one approaches things with the humility, realism, and intelligence. "Socratic" knowledge (knowin' what you don't know) is easy. It's absence is often an indicator of ..... mediocre intelligence.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (QDnY+)

78 On our very first date, my husband came to pick me up in his Dodge Ram truck. *fans self*

Posted by: IC at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (a0IVu)

79 I know quite few people with trucks; they are fairly ubiquitous in the South. Between them and SUVs, they are probably about 1/2 of the passenger vehicles on the road here.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (oZEJt)

80 Posted by: Kreplach at January 04, 2017 03:55 PM (Ln1SM)

Rural counties of NJ have lots of trucks because yes-there are farmers, or when the weather gets rough they need the traction.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (tOcW/)

81 My Prius self identifies as a Ford F150, so I know everything about trucks.

Posted by: Some Journolister at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (X7E8f)

82 Let's see. I have a Ranger. Step-son had a Dodge diesel 3/4 ton. Father in law has a half ton GMC. Brother in law has a half ton GMC. Sister has a 1 ton Ford Diesel.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (dSqvH)

83 I have a Nissan frontier, around the "subaru" crowds i get dirty looks for being a red neck in an oversized truck.

Stop by the farm and army surplus store and get dirty looks for being a not American made and not more raised.

So it's perfect for me, plus it's one of the few I could find with 4wd and manual trans.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (G7wcY)

84 My son has a pickup truck which is sitting in my driveway right now, and he voted for Trump.

And I just bought two bottles of Trump wine to celebrate on Inauguration Day.

Come and get me, People's Republic of NoVa!

Posted by: bluebell at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (sBOL1)

85
Driving down TX 288 in Brazoria County. Passed by a huge dualie. Gun rack and Bambi bars. On the tailgate is a sticker: "I [heart] My Yorkie".

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 04, 2017 04:00 PM (J8/9G)

86 Just wait until the average corporate mpg is the Federally-mandated 52.4 mpg. You guys will not be driving pickups then.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Steve Chu, who doesn't drive at January 04, 2017 04:00 PM (ZO497)

87 Do Up-armored Scooby Vans count?

Posted by: Hillary at January 04, 2017 04:00 PM (P/aDH)

88 Almost all my friends own a truck. Single women are the only people I can think of that don't drive a truck. Every guy I know drives a truck.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:00 PM (IgBFP)

89 73
And then there was this guy --

Jay Cost
@JayCostTWS

If @JohnEkdahl had asked how many ppl bought a copy of "Hillbilly Elegy" and totally intend to read it someday, he'd have been fine.

Because that was better suited to providing the proper virtue signals than the icky pickup truck question was.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Irredeemable Cycling Stars (TM) at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (BK3ZS)

======================

Cost was writing that in support of Ekdahl, commenting on how the journalists' responses wouldn't have been as strong if Ekdahl had mentioned a book instead of a car.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:00 PM (/prE6)

90 60 How many smallish cars, mini-vans, etc are fleet sales (for rental companies and other business purposes)?
Posted by: Kristian W Holvoet at January 04, 2017 03:57 PM (3bo9E)

Lots. When I selling Hondas, they kept stressing to us that if not for other manufacturers fleet sales (which Honda typically doesn't do), they'd be #1 in sales for every car/SUV category.

Posted by: josephistan at January 04, 2017 04:00 PM (7HtZB)

91 Why is there the suggestion that if you own a truck You're racist? Black People don't own any trucks? Latino Americans don't own any trucks?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:00 PM (tOcW/)

92 Apropos of nothing, my 1971 Datsun Pickup was the best handling vehicle I have every owned, bar none, once I put wide radials on it. Perfectly balanced with a mild understeer while cornering at speed.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:01 PM (QQ+il)

93 'Merica.

Fuck Yeah!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:01 PM (6gk0M)

94 Have any of you 'journalists' ever been inside a Wal-Mart would be my next question.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (4Ejxg)


"Do you know anyone who goes fishing on the weekends?" is another question.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2017 04:01 PM (hLRSq)

95 Also, I'm going to laugh at anybody I see in the ditch who drove off of the road because they don't have a pick-up with 4whl drive.
Posted by: Fritz at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (2Mnv1)

I laugh at all the trucks and SUV's in the ditch who think that 4wd means they can drive 80mph on ice.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:01 PM (8hICw)

96 I have owned 4 F150s and 1 Excursion with a V10. I will never own a sedan for my personal use. Most of my friends own or have owned trucks during their lifetime. I enjoy riding up on the bumpers of the elites driving Smart cars and other pieces of shit on the highway.....in the left lane doing 55 mph with Obama and Hillary stickers on their tiny back windows. You can smell their fear in the wind stream.

Posted by: David in ATL at January 04, 2017 04:01 PM (Gplmx)

97 Whether someone owns a pickup or drives his Honda Civic to the office,
then gets in a pickup for work, we're still talking about blue collar
types that journalists haven't befriended.
--
OMG.

I know a local tv reporter/weekend news anchor that DRIVES A PICKUP TRUCK. Someone alert the Twitterscape NOW!!!

Also, the guy in questions is a volunteer fireman.

And one of only TWO conservatives on the air at my former job; he has to keep quiet about it, of course.

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:01 PM (J5mC3)

98 >>Personally, I have never owned a truck and I'm not sure I know anyone who owns one.


Dave in Texas owns a truck, he whipped it out on Twitter.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 04, 2017 04:02 PM (4e+hS)

99
Latino Americans don't own any trucks?

Mostly beaters and lowriders.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 04, 2017 04:02 PM (J8/9G)

100 DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE WITH AN AMPHICAT?!?

Or owns Groucho Marx glasses??

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 04, 2017 04:02 PM (BucYa)

101 When was the last time these so called "journalists" ever been in a Walmart or Walgreens. Have they ever been in car repair shop? No, I didn't think so.

Posted by: dantesed at January 04, 2017 04:02 PM (88xKn)

102 #58 was just so y'all remember that this is nothing new. Been this way for at least 50 years.

Posted by: Chi at January 04, 2017 04:02 PM (/Z9VQ)

103 Proud evil Wall Street guy and F-150 owner. What does that say about me? Am I some kind of anachronism or prolepsis?

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:02 PM (BP2E4)

104 I was hoping you'd post on this Ace

Seriously its the most hilarious self-revealing elitism and lack of contact with Americans I've ever seen. People freaked out about this simple question and its pretty decent and thoughtful. How in touch with this nation you claim to report for and speak for?

After that hilarious NYT "lets go visit the Jesuslanders" Pickup article it was a natural question.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:03 PM (39g3+)

105
Flabby flack Frank Luntz in particular really wanted to do a deep dive on the numbers before conceding that these trucks were in fact the best-selling models of light vehicles in America, questioning whether the trucks sold well to individual customers, or were just bought en masse for construction fleets:


I guess Frank doesn't know that corporations buy large fleets of cars too

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 04, 2017 04:03 PM (lKyWE)

106 "Do you know anyone who goes fishing on the weekends?" is another question.
==================================


Or, "When's the last time you went to church?"

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:03 PM (bpfzP)

107 Should've pointed out the number of AR-15's sold in the past decade and ask them if they anyone who owns one of those. I was personally shocked when I saw the figure (and I own one).

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 04, 2017 04:03 PM (UBzPO)

108 Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 03:59 PM (dSqvH)
I bet I own 40 trucks mostly chevy or GMC. Some Toyotas. Maybe a dodge. I don't know why we don't buy Fords.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:03 PM (IgBFP)

109 >>>>Also, the guy in questions is a volunteer fireman.

Go Basement Saver, GO!!!!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2017 04:03 PM (voOPb)

110 Have never owned a pickup. Haven't stepped inside a church in years (aside from funerals and community meetings).


And yet ...... and yet ..... pickup ownership is absolutely meaningless to me, any more than the color of somebody's t-shirt on any given day. Whatever.


And yet ...... and yet .... being an actual American, with some sense of history and knowledge of the wider world, I recognize the importance of freedom of conscience (as it was called during the Cold War fights against totalitarianism), which encompasses religious freedom and tolerance.


Ace can do as many pretty vivisections of these idiots as he likes - and I'll read and enjoy them - but shorter ace: these people aren't very intelligent, in a practical sense, and are pretty useless due to the ignorance and bigotry.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (QDnY+)

111 He whipped it out??

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (QQ+il)

112 I remember riding in the back of my Mom's pickup truck at the age of four. She made us say near the cab, but the big kids (the eight-year olds) could ride by the gate.

Posted by: kathysaysso at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (43OZ6)

113 Have any of you 'journalists' ever been inside a Wal-Mart would be my next question.


-Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (4Ejxg)





""Do you know anyone who goes fishing on the weekends?" is another question.[/i\"-Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters
Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2017 04:01 PM (hLRSq)

-How many hours have you spent in a deer-stand?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (6gk0M)

114 I've always thought Luntz was somewhat amorphous. Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (BP2E4)

115 I don't know why people have such trouble with the three words that are the beginning of all wisdom:

I.

Don't.

Know.


This is a tough lesson to learn, because most people fear being revealed as ignorant or wrong as if that somehow destroys any chance of their being intelligent. But the smartest, wisest people are always willing to say this, if they don't know. Its an admission of imperfection, yes, but its also a statement of knowledge: I know a lot, but that one has me, and I need to learn.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (39g3+)

116 My Prius self identifies as a Ford F150, so I know everything about trucks.
Posted by: Some Journolister
-----------

It also makes the statement;
"I am not a racist!"

Posted by: Old Christine at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (ZO497)

117 When was the last time you went to a fast food place?

Posted by: dantesed at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (88xKn)

118 Should I check the GAO site to see how many cars, SUVs, and trucks the Federal government owns?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (idrE1)

119 103 Proud evil Wall Street guy and F-150 owner. What does that say about me? Am I some kind of anachronism or prolepsis?
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:02 PM (BP2E4)

====================

You're outside the statistical norm. There are exceptions to everything. Of course, the larger point is that most trucks are owned by conservatives, and the lack of knowledge of people with trucks is indicative of not knowing conservatives. Not definitive, but indicative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (/prE6)

120 Oh, and what does Luntz think happens to those fleet trucks when they're replaced?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (UBzPO)

121 Or owns Groucho Marx glasses??


I have a rubber chicken.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (QQ+il)

122 >>Apropos of nothing, my 1971 Datsun Pickup was the best handling vehicle I have every owned

We had one of those little rascals as a utility truck on the farm. Tough little SOB. Beat the crap out of it and it just kept going.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (/tuJf)

123 Close-tags For The Win.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (6gk0M)

124 Here in the SF Bay Area, Obama's costly rescue of flailing, failing General Motors was roundly cheered by the local liberal loons, not least because it meant that the electric Chevy Volt would be saved, and perforce also the Erf.

Then when the Volt actually came to market... none of the local liberal loons actually bought one. Because of the severe social stigma associated with purchasing a car made by "flyovers".

Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (noWW6)

125 Is it wrong for me to think about luring these elitist reporters to somewhere in "flyover country," forcing them to eat "regional food" and then, when their screams of emotional agony get to be too difficult to withstand, shipping them to Cuba?

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (J5mC3)

126 "Construction firms buy lots of trucks." No they don't. Workers buy their own light trucks and tools.

You got soft hands, Mr. Luntz -- been countin' money your whole life

Posted by: regular joe at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (O50yS)

127 106, Or, "When's the last time you went to church?"


Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:03 PM (bpfzP)
Ohh...their favorite answer to this is 'I am more spiritual than religious'. Which means, they believe in every new nonsense fad that comes up.

Posted by: IC at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (a0IVu)

128 >>Or, "When's the last time you went to church?"





"Do you know anyone who owns a gun?"

Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (NOIQH)

129 Dyk they still make el Caminos in Australia?

Posted by: Shiggz at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (G7wcY)

130 The shear rage that they responded with was the thing for me.

They took it so personally there is some kind of inferiority complex evident.

It's almost as if they don't want anyone asking how they feel entitled to write about a nation they know next to nothing accept that which the leftist narrative insists upon.

One of the best:

@lytestreet
@JohnEkdahl Q: How many of those truck owners use them for the intended purpose? A: Not many unless you count immigrant laborers.

The stupid here is impossible to untangle.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (FQ0rq)

131
again,

watch this very short Fake News video and see who we're dealing with

This is a MUST WATCH video. Believe me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YwIkknxE8E

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (4Ejxg)

132 What I found hilarious was they all claimed Ekdahl's question was implying that "people who own trucks" are "real Americans," whereas those who don't aren't. That's not what he was saying at all. It was a simple question meant to make people think about their bubble.


If the most popular vehicles in America are pickup trucks, but you don't know anyone who owns one, why? There are a lot of Americans and there are a lot of trucks, so it's not unreasonable to assume that the two would overlap in your experience. It's no different than asking, "The most popular ice cream in the country is vanilla. Do you know anyone who says vanilla is their favorite ice cream?" It should make you tilt your head and say, "Huh, good question. I DON'T know anyone like that. Everyone I know likes chocolate. Where are these vanilla-lovers? Are my chocolate-loving friends actually vanilla-lovers and I'm just making assumptions?"



Nowhere did he say, "So, coastal elites, how many down-home country truck owners do you know? And if you say none that means you're out of touch and don't know Real America."



We're defined as much by our ability to recognize what we DON'T know as by our ability to articulate what we DO know. Admitting that you live inside a bubble - especially about something as inconsequential as your associates' preferred vehicle type - is one way of acknowledging you may live in other bubbles, too.



But journalism is the only profession in which you are assumed to know as much about medicine as a doctor, as much about law as a lawyer, science as a scientist, economics as an economist, etc, etc, without ever having to go through the time, effort, and cost of actually ACQUIRING that knowledge. Implying that a journalist may not have knowledge in a particular area is akin to implying they don't know ANYTHING. Those who recognize their limitations and accept that there's things they don't know wouldn't have such an emotional overreaction to such a simple question. But "journalists" who don't want to admit they have limitations view any highlighting of those limitations as a personal attack and lash out.



I think Ekdahl helped us ferret out a lot of actual journalists from the pretenders and provocateurs.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (4df7R)

133 PHL 101

-trucks are popular
-reporters don't know anybody with a truck
therefore: reporters are NOT POPULAR

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (18h+i)

134 The solution to our Nation's existential crisis is perfectly clear from this article.

Since Hillary! won "handily" every state in which Subarus are the number one vehicle, it should be mandated that every individual own a Subaru.

Doc Marten's and flannel shirts can be optional.

Posted by: Barbara Boxer at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (DMUuz)

135 A truck is what the brown landscapers ride in, when they come once a week to the estate.

Posted by: Coastal liberal at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (VndSC)

136 I've seen what an F150 or SUV looks like when it tangles with a Prius/Honda, and what the car looks like.

My family will be inside the winner.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (7ZVPa)

137 Do you know someone who bought their clothes at Walmart or Sears or JC Penney or Wards?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 04, 2017 04:06 PM (BucYa)

138 Yeah, really, what is so shameful about just saying "No, I was raised in Manhattan and there aren't many pickup drivers around here." Hell, the native New Yorkers I know never even got driver's licenses - which is understandable if you've ever been to NY.

I don't think a non-media New Yorker would be upset by the question because a non-media type doesn't even pretend to be in touch with the strange people west of the Hudson.

Humans develop survival skills to match their environment. What those skills are different in NYC than they are in Montana.

What is irritating is that urban journalists know there are rural skills they don't need but dismiss the idea that someone who lives 30 miles away from the nearest police station might just feel a need to own guns.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:06 PM (ZM2xo)

139 Is anyone else annoyed that nobody makes anything like the old Toyota 2WD four-banger pickups anymore? Those were pretty handy trucks, good mileage and handling. Drove on snow like a bag of smashed ass unless you had 200lb of sandbags in the bed, but still a useful and economical little truck.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 04, 2017 04:06 PM (8nWyX)

140 The problem is there are a lot of people who are educated and/or intelligent on the left, but they are uniformly without exception fools. And that's the flaw: they lack discernment, wisdom, perspicacity, whatever you want to call it. And that's what makes them do such foolish crap despite their minds and educations.

I'd much rather be with a stupid, uneducated wise man than the opposite.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:06 PM (39g3+)

141 113
Have any of you 'journalists' ever been inside a Wal-Mart would be my next question.


-Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 03:56 PM (4Ejxg)


""Do you know anyone who goes fishing on the weekends?" is another question.[/i\"-Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters

Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2017 04:01 PM (hLRSq)

-How many hours have you spent in a deer-stand?


Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:04 PM (6gk0M)


How many lug nuts are there on a spare tire?

Posted by: Lena Dunham at January 04, 2017 04:06 PM (GX63o)

142 Every man in my family -- dad, grandfather, brothers, uncles, cousins -- all own and drive trucks. Lol. Guess I'm a super hick. Heck, my cousin's husband (ie not related to me by blood) is the only male in my extended family that I can think of who doesn't drive a truck -- but he did own one when the met/married, and it was only after kids that he opted for an SUV.
I owned a cute little jeep wrangler in my college days, but I've got a little SUV now.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at January 04, 2017 04:06 PM (lZaEn)

143 91 Why is there the suggestion that if you own a truck You're racist? Black People don't own any trucks? Latino Americans don't own any trucks?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:00 PM (tOcW/)

++++

Someone should tell all the landscaping crews. They are always in pickups and almost always are Hispanic.

I suppose they could be racists, though. I haven't really investigated that possibility.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 04, 2017 04:06 PM (R+30W)

144 If I got rid of my Dakota, my dog would be crushed. That's "our" truck.

Plus, I got a half-acre in suburban NJ to ranch.

Don't y'all think you're better'n me. You ain't.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 04, 2017 04:06 PM (mrfTe)

145 Latino Americans don't own any trucks?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:00 PM (tOcW/)


I guess all the Mexicans in South San Francisco didn't get that memo.

Posted by: kathysaysso at January 04, 2017 04:06 PM (43OZ6)

146 I think the only thing I wouldn't like about a pick-up is parking it. I'm terrible at parking. The minivan is hard enough.

I assert my Asian woman driver privilege in this.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (Om16U)

147 Someone who says "they're all fleet trucks sold to Construction companies" doesn't know how contracting is done.

They're called "subcontractors" and many of them are one or two man shops. They buy F-150s.

Disclosure: I do own part of a family construction company and our fleet has, IIRC, 14 to16 F150s/250s/350s. Subcontractors all own their own trucks as well.


Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (y/9kR)

148 Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2017 04:01 PM (hL
Yes, I do. I have fish in my freezer from them.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (IgBFP)

149 I freely admit I live in a bubble. Who doesn't? I live in a suburban/rural area that is mostly upper middle class and white. I hate no body and I am not racist or homophobic. I don't understand lib/prog smug assholes though.

Posted by: Usntakim at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (hMqvx)

150 I own one. It's a money sink.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (4ErVI)

151 I tried to find the outrage earlier when I read this at Insty, and I'm still not seeing it.

***

Nobody said it's outraging. It's fascinating.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (SEXy3)

152 I don't know why people have such trouble with the three words that are the beginning of all wisdom:

I.

Don't.

Know.



Amen and amen and amen.

Intellectual humility is one of my least favorite things in the world and something that the Universe is bound and determined to teach me, no matter how humiliating and painful and eternal those lessons will be.

I had to do something new at work last week and I asked many many many many completely idiotic questions because I didn't know. No, I didn't know that super obvious thing because I don't do that. No, I didn't know I had to do that other thing as well because I haven't done this before. You know what's wrong in that situation? Not asking the question.


Also, guys, guys, you guuuuyyyysss, I have this super new and incredibly radical idea and, seriously, I'm about to blow your minds.

Get. This.

Different people in different places have different experiences and view the world differently and, hold on, we're going next level now, have different priorities and different concerns which need to be addressed differently.

I know, I know, I'm Wil E. Coyote, Super Genius for figuring that out. I'm so awesome. Go me.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (mf5HN)

153 If saw saw Frank Lutz on Penn and teller bullsjit you might pull your punches.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (G7wcY)

154 How many light vehicles, which are not trucks are bought by governments for their fleet vehicles?

Seems like in particular, the Federal government buys a lot of sedans and SUVs.

Mostly made by Government Motors, if I remember correctly.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (J+eG2)

155 There's just this weird, egotistical unwillingness to confess that one is a human being -- and not God, who is posited to understand everything. People have this weird blasphemous tic about insisting that they are the Alpha and Omega of human experience, that all human lives are lived somewhere in their soul, and that they represent the summa of the human condition.

That's just the typical leftist projecting the utter shallowness and simplicity of his own mind. Chickens have more complex thoughts than your typical leftist ... because chickens can do elementary arithmetic - or so leftists have told me.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (zc3Db)

156 I've noted before that it was (is) a pretension of aristocracy to take pride in not knowing things about manual labor and ordinary lives.

That part about the aristocrats is mind boggling to me. I get frustrated not knowing things, especially getting my wife's damn car started.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (ODxAs)

157 grammie I neither fish nor attend church.


And the fishin', church-goin', god-bothering parts of the Horde could only dream of me being in charge of things, or a prominent "journalist". That's how much I'd be loved.


Not being ignorant, or bigoted, or narrow-minded, and having some humility are nothing heroic. Nor are these traits that rare - except, apparently, among today's "elites".

Posted by: rhomboid at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (QDnY+)

158
-How many hours have you spent in a deer-stand?
---

Can you identify:

-a deer
-a full bed pickup truck
- a miter saw

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:08 PM (J5mC3)

159 115 I don't know why people have such trouble with the three words that are the beginning of all wisdom:

I.

Don't.

Know.




Remember: If the women don't find you handsome, they should find you handy.
I'm pulling for ya'. We're all in this together.
Posted by: Red Green

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 04:08 PM (dSqvH)

160 How do you haul your big-ass boat without a truck to match? Probably something else outside our betters' comfort zone.

Posted by: ever at January 04, 2017 04:08 PM (kronK)

161 On the flip side of that question, I'm practically the only guy around me who does not have his own truck, weird.

Posted by: Jaybee at January 04, 2017 04:08 PM (O3uss)

162 Posted by: Chi at January 04, 2017 04:02 PM (/Z9VQ)

Hi, Chi

I believe you said that your mom was having a biopsy?. How did things go? Haven't seen you around much lately.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:08 PM (tOcW/)

163 Somebody tell Frank Luntz that if he wants to count construction firms buying trucks, he has to also count all the police and government cars, all the rental cars of every rental agency, all the corporate cars and taxi cabs. A lot of CARS also not going to individuals per se - so pickups might even be more popular than Neil DeGrasse Tyson is capable of pondering.

I'm surprised Luntz can even type with all that jelly donut goo all over his fingers.

Posted by: FredB at January 04, 2017 04:08 PM (c5sfq)

164 In parts of New York and New Jersey, pickup trucks are "low class" and can't be parked in your own driveway. I first encountered this in Florida when I rented a condo that was otherwise occupied by retired New Jersey folk. The Home Owner's Association demanded I park my high-end pickup truck around the back.

Posted by: Another Bob at January 04, 2017 04:08 PM (oBKSz)

165 I would like a car without all the "smart car" bells and whistles though.
I don't trust cars that are smarter than me.
Having my phone sneer at me is bad enough.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 04, 2017 04:08 PM (Om16U)

166 Christopher R. Taylor, this is the quote that goes with your assertion.

Do you see a man wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.
Proverbs 26:12

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 04:08 PM (idrE1)

167 do you personally know someone that owns one?

Yes.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (OzJeO)

168 "Do you know anyone who has posted on the 2016 award #winning Ace of Spades HQ?"

Posted by: Joy Behar at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (DMUuz)

169 Go Basement Saver, GO!!!!!
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
-----------

Well... after it's pumped out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (NBHj5)

170 128
>>Or, "When's the last time you went to church?"





"Do you know anyone who owns a gun?"


Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (NOIQH)
they don't know anyone who voted for trump

Posted by: phoenixgirl, Happy Christmas at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (0O7c5)

171 Just wow. Here in Texas just about every family has a pickup or SUV. In my family's case we have one of each. I only know one person who has a Prius and one who used to have a Smart car, until he figured out a Nissan Versa is cheaper, has some space in it, and has about the same MPG. And his wife has an SUV. Oops, scratch all that. The Prius owner traded it in for a Ford F250.

Posted by: TxDan at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (LYMyk)

172 >> Q: How many of those truck owners use them for the intended purpose?


Heh. Define the "intended purpose" of a truck, bucko!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (NOIQH)

173 Distinguish between a bow saw, a scroll saw and a hacksaw.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (QQ+il)

174 Question to journalists: how many rounds does a G19 handgun hold?

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (BP2E4)

175 I kind of get their reaction, because I'm a hacky partisan dick, in my private life.

When I sense someone from the other team is engaging me I immediately look for a path to deride them.

I'm getting better at suppressing this in real life...but I understand the impulse these people had to discredit and mock the question.

But I drive a truck, so what do I know?

Posted by: Barrmaggedon at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (w9Yap)

176 My delicate coworkers and I were discussing this very topic this morning. The delicate coworkers couldn't understand the purpose for asking the question. Naturally they don't know anyone that drives a pickup truck. Shocked the shit out of them when I explained my dad drives a pickup truck. In their world, black people don't drive pickup trucks. We only drive cars with spinning rims or muscle cars sittin' on 24s. Yea, no. Then is was "but, but, but he lives in the suburbs." And? Pickup trucks are rampant in Yorba Linda, California. The "hick rubes" aren't the only ones driving them.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (S/qwI)

177 Do you know someone who bought their clothes at Walmart or Sears or JC Penney or Wards?

================================


You shop at Penney's? Well, la di da.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (bpfzP)

178 Don't own a truck but I love to sing Joe Diffie's "Pickup Man" in the shower. Does that count?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (xK4Ot)

179 Luntz conveniently forgets to ask if sedan or SUV sales figures include government fleets such as police cars and cars provided to political hacks.

Of course Luntz can't his way to the parking garage without a bunch of knob turning focus groups deciding for him

Posted by: kbdabear at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (Ya7zs)

180 Here in Oklahoma, many many women drive a pickup, not a cutesy little one, but, a full size.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now @SMcEvil on GAB at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (kXoT0)

181 except for that one semester abroad in Barcelona that they never shut the fuck up about.)--- Ace

Holy shit, this is church!!!

Posted by: Pepe at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (7SUm3)

182 I own 3. What does that make ME?

Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:10 PM (xttKs)

183 Oliver Willis continues to shine as one of the most profoundly, reliably stupid people on the internet.

Also, he loves Big Macs. I've heard.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 04, 2017 04:10 PM (xeeHA)

184 I own two. 1990 F350 7.5L V-8 and a 2006 F350 6.8L V-10. Both have manual transmissions.
My hobbies include blowing the doors off Prii and Subarus on I-5 on my way to Baja, and checking girls laps at intersections.
Vroom, vroom.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 04:10 PM (HgMAr)

185 "So it's perfect for me, plus it's one of the few I could find with 4wd and manual trans."

At the GM dealership last summer to buy an obscure part for a friend's car:

Oleaginous sales guy straight out of the worst of the 1970s, bad plaid sport coat and all, sees me looking at a diesel truck while my buddy is inside at the parts counter.

"Say, what can we do to put you into one of those today?"

-- Only if you've got one with a six-speed.

"You're in luck! This has a six-speed, sir."

-- Six-speed *manual* with a *clutch*? News to me.

"Ummmmmmmmmmmm. Let me talk to my manager."

-- Don't bother.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:10 PM (noWW6)

186 Uh oh, what attachment did AlextheChick just order from Acme for the Sybian?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 04:10 PM (idrE1)

187 49 Ford, 55 Chevy 3100, 69 Chevy C-10, 69 El Camino, 77 Nissan Frontier 4WD, 2008 Nissan Frontier 4WD.

Posted by: Yes. at January 04, 2017 04:10 PM (3myMJ)

188 I own 3. What does that make ME?

Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:10 PM (xttKs)


One of those really dangerous "mega-truck owners".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (zc3Db)

189 Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:08 PM (J5mC3)
I don't know what a miter saw is. The other two I know.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (IgBFP)

190
Is it wrong for me to think about luring these elitist reporters to somewhere in "flyover country"
***
I really, really want to see us do this for government offices.

I'd love to everything not directly tied to the Congress, office of the President, or the SC moved somewhere else where they can more immediately work on whatever their nominal reason to exist is...and pay the price if they aren't.

HUD to Chicago
EPA to Flint
VA to Norfolk (or near one of the major army bases).
HHS to El Paso
INS also to El Paso
Etc...


Posted by: 18-1 at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (X7E8f)

191 Everyone on our street has a truck. That's not an exaggeration. Except us. My husband has a little Hyundai that he used when he drove all over Texas every day for work so we needed something that would be cheap to drive.

We are planning to trade it in for a truck.

I don't understand the unwillingness to accept your own ignorance though. Don't these assholes ever drive by a flatbed hauling some huge bit of equipment and think "wow, I wonder what that thing does!"

I guess not.

Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (sjmF0)

192 >>How do you haul your big-ass boat without a truck to match?

So far, with my friends truck. Friends trucks are more popular than Chevy, Ford and Dodge combined.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (/tuJf)

193 "Do you know anyone who has posted on the 2016 award #winning Ace of Spades HQ?"



Does this Mr. O'Spades have a blog?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (J+eG2)

194
At least I pronounce "ethanol" correctly!

Posted by: angry LIJ at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (2WoCi)

195 A SUV anecdote:

I live in Michigan, and fought against getting a SUV for a long time, mostly because they're more expensive to own, and the gas mileage isn't as good as I would want. And I would not consider a "hybrid" or any nonsense like that.

Well, a few years ago I got a Rav4, and WOW! It has four wheel drive and will go through anything. The ride isn't as smooth as a sedan, but when there's snow, you're golden.

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (J5mC3)

196 Also, he loves Big Macs. I've heard.


Fillet O' Fish.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (QQ+il)

197 I just wonder if the right was ever as intolerant as the left. Seriously, they are so filled with shaking, unquenchable hatred toward anyone who doesn't fit a very narrow set of demands, its hard to believe. Just 10 years ago, "tolerance" was their watchword. I mean, they never really were honest about it, but they don't even pretend any longer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (39g3+)

198 I dunno. Some of the new Ford F-150's are $65k and up. I'm not sure how that's some kind of lowbrow vehicle.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (BP2E4)

199 Can you identify:
-a deer
-a full bed pickup truck
- a miter saw
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat!


Well, can ya?

Posted by: Harry Callahan at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (DMUuz)

200 I would like a car without all the "smart car" bells and whistles though.
I don't trust cars that are smarter than me.
Having my phone sneer at me is bad enough.
Posted by: Deplorable votermom
------------
Heh. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Posted by: Googlemobile at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (ZO497)

201 How many lug nuts are there on a spare tire?
Posted by: Lena Dunham




None.
Unless you are driving a jeep. Then two to three to hold it on the mounting bracket.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (dSqvH)

202 I would love a Ford F450 if I could see over the steering wheel. Which I can't.

My brother got a Ram 2500 and I swear that thing is nicer inside than a BWM or Mercedes.


Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:12 PM (mf5HN)

203 -Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (4df7R)

The original question came from a NYT reporter who looked at Texans like most would look at wildlife in Africa. He didn't think that people "needed" pick-ups, but he didn't understand the reasoning, either.

They look at "Flyover Country" like they are on a Safari.

Fuck this guy in particular because he savors the cock that is New York City.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:12 PM (6gk0M)

204 I really, really want to see us do this for government offices.

I'd
love to everything not directly tied to the Congress, office of the
President, or the SC moved somewhere else where they can more
immediately work on whatever their nominal reason to exist is...and pay
the price if they aren't.

HUD to Chicago
EPA to Flint
VA to Norfolk (or near one of the major army bases).
HHS to El Paso
INS also to El Paso
Etc...
---
OMG.

If I was a man, I'd be headed for my bunk right now...

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:12 PM (J5mC3)

205 Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:09 PM (bpfzP)
Tough skins for the win.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:12 PM (IgBFP)

206 I think it's paranoia. I think the question feels, to them, like a trap. As if the straightforward answer ("I don't know anyone who drives a pickup.") is going to lead to an insult, along the lines of "You're not a real American" or "You're out of touch with Trump voters". Or something else along those lines.

I mean, who can really say what these people are thinking?

But whatever they're thinking, they dodge and leap and parry and spin in an effort to trick you (and their peers and followers, more importantly) into thinking they've defeated you, without ever answering the question that was asked.


Posted by: Steve at January 04, 2017 04:12 PM (Qv1ut)

207 I drive a truck. It...was...dad's; I started driving it when his decline began in '14, after a lifetime of cars. It took some getting used to and I'm still reconciling the difference in maneuverability, all of which is utterly beside the point.

But of course I live in the Deep South, where nearly everyone either drives a truck or knows a truck driver within at most three degrees of separation.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at January 04, 2017 04:12 PM (9krrF)

208 I well past time for some sensible pickup truck control laws.

Posted by: Coastal liberal at January 04, 2017 04:12 PM (VndSC)

209 Can you identify:
-a deer
-a full bed pickup truck
- a miter saw


White tail or mulie? Buck or doe?
8 ft bed
Yes

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 04:12 PM (dSqvH)

210
One of those really dangerous "mega-truck owners".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (zc3Db)



YAY!!! Badge of honor....

Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:13 PM (xttKs)

211 I want one more mini-van before I die but the particular model I want is hard to find. I want a Chrysler Town & Country, made in this century, with about 70k miles on it and it must have the stow and go seating.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:13 PM (QQ+il)

212 BMW, alexthechick?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:13 PM (6gk0M)

213 I'd love to everything not directly tied to the Congress, office of the President, or the SC moved somewhere else where they can more immediately work on whatever their nominal reason to exist is...and pay the price if they aren't.

Yeah, this was impractical in the past, but these days with communication and transportation being what it is, there's no reason not to, other than DC corruption and graft.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:13 PM (39g3+)

214
Well, can ya?


Posted by: Harry Callahan at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM
--

Yes.

And in fact, the other day I was pricing miter saws.

/I did not expect my life to be like this...

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:13 PM (J5mC3)

215 "
164 In parts of New York and New Jersey, pickup trucks are "low class" and can't be parked in your own driveway. I first encountered this in Florida when I rented a condo that was otherwise occupied by retired New Jersey folk. The Home Owner's Association demanded I park my high-end pickup truck around the back."

These assholes realize that a fully loaded truck costs more than a BMW, right?

Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2017 04:13 PM (sjmF0)

216
Does this Mr. O'Spades have a blog?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (J+eG2)


Comte Ac de Pique to you, peon.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 04, 2017 04:13 PM (J8/9G)

217 I've owned 4 trucks in my lifetime, and currently have 2. Both full-size 4x4's (one big-block powered, one diesel). Practically everyone I know has a truck (or two). The only time I didn't have a truck is the short period of time that I wasn't a home/land owner. If you do actual manly work (as all men should) then a truck is a necessity.

Oh, and your Prius is my carbon offset. Thanks!!

Posted by: Shepherd Lover at January 04, 2017 04:13 PM (u2w0Z)

218
Do you know who msnbc's chief political reporters are?

Two Stupid Girls who know nothing about the World or the people who live in it. Katy Turd and the gym-teacher-in-another-life Kasie Hunt. They are a couple of naive know-it-alls and liars who belong working on a community college newsletter.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:13 PM (4Ejxg)

219 I think it's paranoia. I think the question feels, to them, like a trap. As if the straightforward answer ("I don't know anyone who drives a pickup.") is going to lead to an insult, along the lines of "You're not a real American" or "You're out of touch with Trump voters". Or something else along those lines.

Posted by: Steve at January 04, 2017 04:12 PM (Qv1ut)


Which are all true, of course.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:14 PM (zc3Db)

220 Ha. We have a ford 250 diesel AND a Subaru Outback.
Remote mountain dwellers and we cannot get by without these two vehicles. I would prefer a pickup myself but my old father can't climb into one.

That said, during the election season (Trump country) I cringed driving around cause I got those scathing glances.
I have no virtue signaling on the suby, so I'm sure I got a begrudging pass. Hey! I'm one of you! The Suby also works as a disguise too, the libs think I'm one of them.

Posted by: Derak at January 04, 2017 04:14 PM (/LnUG)

221 Laslo Spatula said...
On the set of a Hollywood SJW Ad…

"Hello, America. I'm Robert Downey, Jr, and since the election of Trump I have been scared for my vagina…"

"Robert, stop, stop. I think you have Lena Dunham's script by mistake."

"Really? Because I can imagine having a vagina. I'm an actor: I can do that."

"No, sorry, Robert: Lena REALLY wanted to be the one to say 'vagina' in this spot. America knowing about her vagina fears is very important to her."

"I can have vagina fears, too. I'm a very sensitive guy. A very sensitive guy, sensitive to women's vagina fears: they have fears about their vaginas, and I can talk about sharing that."

"I think you talking about vaginas might not make the best of your time in this ad, Robert…"

"I think I know where this is going: I'm going to get the script about drug addictions increasing, aren't I?"

"Well, actually…"

"Yeah, I know, I know: I had drug problems. Big ones. But I'm REALLY tired of being 'that drug guy', you know?"

"I understand, Robert: I do. Say: how do you feel about transvestites, Robert? Travolta dropped out."

"Of course he did. Travolta talks a Big Game about transvestites in private, but when it comes to going public…"

"He's just not ready yet, Robert…"

"What is Trump doing to the transvestites? I know a few transvestite hookers, but they haven't said much…"

"That's because Trump is forcing them into silence."

"That's it? Silence? Are you SURE I can't talk about vaginas?"

"I really don't want to lose Lena, Robert: the hipsters like her."

"Maybe she could do something about body-shaming, instead? Because she's no Jennifer Lawrence, that's for sure."

"Body-Shaming is already being taken by some chunky black actress. I don't remember her name, but she was all we could get for the 'fat' part…"

"Maybe I could team up with Samuel L. Jackson on something, then: that could be cool."

"Samuel has already told us that when he films his part he wants no white people on the set."

"So it's drugs or transvestites, that's what you're saying?"

"I'm afraid so, Robert…"

"Fuck it: I'll stick with drugs, then…"

"Good, good! And now I can call Jared Leto and tell him the 'transvestite part' is his…"

I am Laslo.

Posted by: Arno-Fethwicke at January 04, 2017 04:14 PM (sf3Ua)

222 197 I just wonder if the right was ever as intolerant as the left. Seriously, they are so filled with shaking, unquenchable hatred toward anyone who doesn't fit a very narrow set of demands, its hard to believe. Just 10 years ago, "tolerance" was their watchword. I mean, they never really were honest about it, but they don't even pretend any longer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (39g3+)

=====================

Well, one indicator would be answering this question a certain way:

If someone were to present the question to you, "Do you know anyone who owns a Prius or uses public transportation exclusively?" would you:

A) Answer either "yes" or "no".

or

B) Imply that the questioner was questioning your level of Americanness and proceed to scream at them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:14 PM (/prE6)

223 My brother got a Ram 2500 and I swear that thing is nicer inside than a BWM or Mercedes.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits


Of course they are. Truck people aren't (all) savages...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at January 04, 2017 04:14 PM (9krrF)

224 I would love a Ford F450 if I could see over the steering wheel. Which I can't.

My brother got a Ram 2500 and I swear that thing is nicer inside than a BWM or Mercedes.


Posted by: alexthechick




Go large or go home: F650

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 04:14 PM (dSqvH)

225 Grump, we had that exact can before it got totaled in the flood. Now we have a Honda. I miss the stow and go.

Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2017 04:14 PM (sjmF0)

226 Not contesting the popularity of trucks - I'm having difficulty thinking of a family I know that *doesn't* own at least one - but saying the only three models of trucks are the three top-selling vehicles doesn't really say trucks are more popular than cars overall. If I want a pickup, there are three* options - F series, Silverado, or Ram - and if I want a sedan, there are what, 20 options? 30? I buy cars only from people who understand that we're not all 6' tall (I'm looking at YOU and your stupid high windows that make it impossible to check the blind spot, FORD, not to mention having to drive with the airbags 2" from my chest), and I still have a dozen options. So the sedan-buying population is far more fragmented.

*If its tailgate breaks off when you try to load the bed, it's not an option.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at January 04, 2017 04:14 PM (D6ny+)

227 Question for truck owners - do you know a smug liberal journalist?

Posted by: Roy at January 04, 2017 04:14 PM (VndSC)

228 Can you identify:
-a deer
-a full bed pickup truck
- a miter saw
___
Deers are those big things in Maine right? Like if you hit one driving to a sku resort it will destroy your car and then eat you?

a full bed pickup truck....is that like when you have a bed in the back? Like I had in my van in the 60s?

a miter saw that's like an rich old person's saw right?

Posted by: Some Journolister at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (X7E8f)

229 Have owned a truck continuously since 1989.

Currently have two trucks (no cars in the family): Dodge RAM 2500 Cummins Diesel; Dodge RAM 3500 Dually Cummins Diesel.

95 percent of the people I know own trucks...but hey, it's Texas.

Posted by: Sixkiller at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (mFA3Z)

230 My brother got a Ram 2500 and I swear that thing is nicer inside than a BWM or Mercedes.

That actually bothers me, pickups aren't supposed to be luxury and comfort. They're supposed to be something you can get into muddy and sooty and dirty and not worry about the interior. Girlified pickups annoy me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (39g3+)

231 156 I've noted before that it was (is) a pretension of aristocracy to take pride in not knowing things about manual labor and ordinary lives."

I don't care that they don't know. If you live in an apartment in NYC, there is no reason you have to know how to field dress a deer.

What I do hate is when they make a virtue of their ignorance - pontificating about "assault rifles" and whatnot when it's clear they don't know the first thing about guns. Then when they're corrected, they just blow it off because they don't think they have to actually know anything about guns to force their opinions about guns on everyone.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (ZM2xo)

232 Look up 'solipsism'.

Posted by: Eric Hoffer's Thumb at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (0J6e7)

233 I have a 5 year old truck.
I put stuff in it and sometimes go to the dump.
Current state: Filthy

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (QM5S2)

234 I don't now this could have a hilarious outcome like Frank Luntz losing an arm in a gator hunt just because he wants to prove he's down wit the good old boyz.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (4ErVI)

235 A new question for the next Charles Murray bubble quiz.

Posted by: Golfman at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (48QDY)

236 >>>Tough skins for the win.

TUFFSKINS

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy CON QUESO at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (BucYa)

237 Well, a few years ago I got a Rav4, and WOW! It has four wheel drive and will go through anything. The ride isn't as smooth as a sedan, but when there's snow, you're golden.

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (J5mC3)


Yeah, that and the Honda CRV were also on the list here in mid-MI. I ended up with a manual Impreza wagon which handles the snow just as well, but apparently I'm now a lesbian who listens to nothing but the Indigo Girls, so, y'know, keep that in mind.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (8nWyX)

238 I miss the stow and go.


That part is key for me. I don't care about the color or whatnot but I want those seats to fold down and disappear.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (QQ+il)

239 I own a pick up truck. When I lived in LA, I hated to drive it because it made me feel like a lesbian (not that there's anything wrong with that). In Texas, I feel like a hottie!

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at January 04, 2017 04:16 PM (CLKfs)

240 I own and drive a pickup truck.

And on Election Day morning, I predicted that Donald Trump would win Michigan and Pennsylvania and the election with 305 electoral votes.

Posted by: mrp at January 04, 2017 04:16 PM (JBggj)

241 Maybe it's like those mega-gun owners skewing the numbers. I'm in Texas. Right now I have four pickups and other vehicles. One of my pickups holds multiple land speed records.

Posted by: PostingatWork at January 04, 2017 04:16 PM (NzHOq)

242 I own 3. What does that make ME?

Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:10 PM (xttKs)
............

Deplorable.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 04:16 PM (HgMAr)

243 Bad thing about a truck is when you hear someone making noises about moving or needing help with landscaping, you know what they're hinting at.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 04, 2017 04:16 PM (4ErVI)

244 Ekdahl should have added a picture of Truck Nutz to his tweet.

Posted by: Roy at January 04, 2017 04:16 PM (VndSC)

245 Vans are much better. More privacy.

Posted by: Harry Reed at January 04, 2017 04:16 PM (8TdcF)

246 https://tinyurl.com/zubxs2e

More Trump WINNING!!

Posted by: Evilpens at January 04, 2017 04:16 PM (y3aQB)

247 BWM
Bavarian Wunder Motors?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (P/aDH)

248 -Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:10 PM (noWW6)

Have I told you lately that I love you?

Don't be a fag, now.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (6gk0M)

249 Imply that the questioner was questioning your level of Americanness and proceed to scream at them.

I suppose there are some folks around like that, still. I dunno. It just seems like the left goes berserk calling for severe penalties for someone who holds a position they did just 4 years ago. I don't see the right doing that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (39g3+)

250 231 What I do hate is when they make a virtue of their ignorance - pontificating about "assault rifles" and whatnot when it's clear they don't know the first thing about guns. Then when they're corrected, they just blow it off because they don't think they have to actually know anything about guns to force their opinions about guns on everyone.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (ZM2xo)

===================

Let them take pride in their ignorance as long as they don't try to influence your life.

They can sputter all they want about how they don't need to understand flyover country as long as they don't try to dictate how flyover country lives.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (/prE6)

251 Scott Brown's pickup was so important to the left that WaPo called him "in love" and analyzed how much the truck appeared in his ads:

http://tinyurl.com/hvd7vx4

Posted by: eforhan at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (QF7Nv)

252 >@lytestreet
@JohnEkdahl Q: How many of those truck owners use them for the intended purpose? A: Not many unless you count immigrant laborers.
The stupid here is impossible to untangle.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (FQ0rq)

Isn't the intended purpose 'hauling something'? So If I throw a couch in the back or help somebody move or transport anything too big for a little compact or haul a boat/camper, etc, I have used the truck for its 'intended purpose'.

Which I bet ya every truck owner has.

Posted by: Lea at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (lIU4e)

253 Windowless vans ..

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (QQ+il)

254 243 Bad thing about a truck is when you hear someone making noises about moving or needing help with landscaping, you know what they're hinting at.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 04, 2017 04:16 PM (4ErVI)

The shifty eyes they make toward you are also good signs.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (8hICw)

255 My F-150 has more accoutrements than most of my colleagues high end cars. But yeah, what a low class vehicle or something.

I will never go back to a car.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (BP2E4)

256 Posted by: Roland THTG at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (QM5S2)
That's what boots and trucks are meant to be.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (IgBFP)

257 Do you think Ekdahl could next ask how many people journalists know who own chainsaws and ballistic chaps? Pruning shears? A shovel?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (9MInk)

258 I don't know what a miter saw is. The other two I know.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM


C'mon out to Texas. There'll be a bunch of us that show you both the manual and power versions of same.

Not sure if they're still legal in California, though.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (DMUuz)

259 https://tinyurl.com/gndp3g7


Guccifer' casts doubt on Obama administration's Russia hacking claims

Posted by: Evilpens at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (y3aQB)

260 That is probably the worse thing about many of the new trucks, they have the comfort and luxury quotient of a mid-tier passenger car in them now. Heated leather seats, console navigation, entertainment center, and five cup-holders. Even the low end 'bargain' trucks have suffered the upcreep, compare say a 2000 Toyota Tacoma with a 2016 model.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (idrE1)

261 >>Bad thing about a truck is when you hear someone making noises about moving or needing help with landscaping, you know what they're hinting at.

Exactly. As I said, friends trucks are very popular.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 04:18 PM (/tuJf)

262 That actually bothers me, pickups aren't supposed to be luxury and comfort. They're supposed to be something you can get into muddy and sooty and dirty and not worry about the interior. Girlified pickups annoy me.



They are called Cowboy Cadillacs. And yes, the King Ranch edition with leather seats looks and feels like a caddy.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 04:18 PM (dSqvH)

263 Holy cow. We have enough truck owners here to do a meetup.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:18 PM (BP2E4)

264 BMW, alexthechick?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:13 PM (6gk0M)



I typed what I typed.

Which was, you know, less than accurate.

I blame everyone but me.


I want a RAV4 a lot. Were it not that I have the best kind of car, the paid off kind, then I would get one.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:18 PM (mf5HN)

265 Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (P/aDH)

B-M-Trouble-U

BTDT 2X

Posted by: Golfman at January 04, 2017 04:18 PM (48QDY)

266 "I would love a Ford F450 if I could see over the steering wheel. Which I can't. "


Alex..

A suggestion.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_500


I used to own a '68 when we were stationed in Italy.


You NEED this car.


As a second vehicle.
But, it's so you.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2017 04:18 PM (J+eG2)

267 240
I own and drive a pickup truck.

And on Election Day morning, I predicted that Donald Trump would win Michigan and Pennsylvania and the election with 305 electoral votes.


Posted by: mrp at January 04, 2017 04:16 PM (JBggj)


Me too - like the 1990 F350 7.5L owner above - I have a 1992 crew cab F350, it gets 3 priuses to the mile, and I told my dad, the day before the election, Trump had this with 300-315 EVs.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (GX63o)

268 HUD to Chicago
EPA to Flint
VA to Norfolk (or near one of the major army bases).
HHS to El Paso
INS also to El Paso
Etc...


Posted by: 18-1
---------

EPA to Fairbanks

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (ZO497)

269 If you can't hose out the cab as well as the bed, it's not a truck.

Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (QQ+il)

270 249 I suppose there are some folks around like that, still. I dunno. It just seems like the left goes berserk calling for severe penalties for someone who holds a position they did just 4 years ago. I don't see the right doing that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (39g3+)

===================

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but conservatives do do it.

Just look back at how Paul Ryan was treated when he was nominated for VP vs. how he's treated now. He hasn't changed any positions since, but he's generally disliked by movement conservatives when he was treated very kindly in 2012.

Of course, that's not quite a 1 to 1 example, but the way some conservatives have turned on people like National Review because they said something they didn't like is very much in that vein.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (/prE6)

271 Um, lots of fleet car sales too, Frank. Rental cars, government cars, police cars, guys who read water meters, I could go on and on.

Posted by: Dang at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (8b+oT)

272 Ram 1500. Molon Labe sticker in back window. Gun in console.

Posted by: SD at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (07YWD)

273 269 If you can't hose out the cab as well as the bed, it's not a truck.
Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (QQ+il)

Not everyone wants a farm truck.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (8hICw)

274 "So it's perfect for me, plus it's one of the few I could find with 4wd and manual trans."

At the GM dealership last summer to buy an obscure part for a friend's car:

Oleaginous sales guy straight out of the worst of the 1970s, bad plaid sport coat and all, sees me looking at a diesel truck while my buddy is inside at the parts counter.

"Say, what can we do to put you into one of those today?"

-- Only if you've got one with a six-speed.

"You're in luck! This has a six-speed, sir."

-- Six-speed *manual* with a *clutch*? News to me.

"Ummmmmmmmmmmm. Let me talk to my manager."

-- Don't bother.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:10 PM (noWW6)


Do people now-a-days even know how to drive a stick?

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (OzJeO)

275 Does Subaru make a pickup?

Posted by: tu3031 at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (qJhUV)

276 258.I don't know what a miter saw is. The other two I know.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM

C'mon out to Texas. There'll be a bunch of us that show you both the manual and power versions of same.

Not sure if they're still legal in California, though.

I invented the miter saw.

Posted by: R. DUKE at January 04, 2017 04:20 PM (ONH2e)

277 I still want a Fiat 850 Spyder.

Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at January 04, 2017 04:20 PM (QQ+il)

278 "e. I don't care about the color or whatnot but I want those seats to fold down and disappear."

Yeah it basically turns it into a work van. I believe they started doing the stow and go in '06 if that helps you.

Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2017 04:20 PM (sjmF0)

279 I don't have a truck ... and every so often when I need to get 4x8 sheets of something at Lowe's I curse the world as I'm forced to cut them to dimensions I don't want.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:20 PM (zc3Db)

280 106 "Do you know anyone who goes fishing on the weekends?" is another question.
==================================


Or, "When's the last time you went to church?"


Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:03 PM (bpfzP

Fished Saturday and Monday. Church on Sunday.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2017 04:20 PM (voOPb)

281 Good thread to ask has anyone ever had issues with the F-150 ecoboost engine? Like hesitation on acceleration?

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:20 PM (BP2E4)

282 Do people now-a-days even know how to drive a stick?
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (OzJeO)

Yes. Yes I do.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:20 PM (8hICw)

283 Does Subaru make a pickup?

They used to make the Brat.

Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at January 04, 2017 04:20 PM (QQ+il)

284
How many lug nuts are there on a spare tire?
Posted by: Lena Dunham at January 04, 2017 04:06 PM (GX63o)


Why don't you just look down and count?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 04, 2017 04:20 PM (lKyWE)

285 What's the big deal. My main vehicle is a P/U truck and has been for the past 35 years. Secondary vehicle is a Harley. Both are packing!

Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at January 04, 2017 04:20 PM (m2hXj)

286 LOL: "that one semester abroad in Barcelona that they never shut the fuck up about."

Posted by: Arnie Fufkin at January 04, 2017 04:20 PM (JUHfN)

287 Vans are much better. More privacy.

Posted by: Harry Reed
****

So true.

Posted by: Ted Bundy at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (+aCe4)

288 Um, lots of fleet car sales too, Frank. Rental cars, government cars, police cars, guys who read water meters, I could go on and on.
Posted by: Dang
----------

The Chevy Volt would be a footnote in GM history were it not for sales to the government.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (NBHj5)

289 Pooky's vent tube is out and he's not restrained anymore. He's in and out consciousness, wanting to speak but dehydrated. Just trying to figure out childcare arrangements and when Pookette can see him.

Posted by: pookysgirl at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (gmvO1)

290 279 I don't have a truck ... and every so often when I need to get 4x8 sheets of something at Lowe's I curse the world as I'm forced to cut them to dimensions I don't want.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:20 PM (zc3Db


We have Menards, not sure where you are at. They rent out pickups starting at 19.95 for 2 hours in city.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (voOPb)

291 Christopher R. Taylor, this is the quote that goes with your assertion.

Indeed. And of course, the beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord -- not just because it means you recognize the truth about the universe and its meaning, but because of this:

understanding you are not the highest and most important thing in the universe gives you proper perspective and the start of humility, and in that is wisdom.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (39g3+)

292 Can you identify:
-a deer
-a full bed pickup truck
- a miter saw
===========================


Last night going to the Y, we passed a truck that was disabled in the ditch. Then we found out why. Dead deer all over the place. If I had come home afterwards and used the mitre saw, I could have hit the trifecta.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (bpfzP)

293 I live in Central NY - snow country. But even when I lived South of Boston, I had a truck. Now I have a Tundra.

I work with roughly 600 other people. Easily 1/3 to 1/2 the vehicles in the parking lot are trucks.

Posted by: deadrody at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (kj7T1)

294 Oh, and Shibumi, my little black cat was a kitten abandoned by his mom (she did that a lot of her litters the neighbor told me) and was being raised, sort of, by the pride of feral cats in my neighbor's yard, and I figured I should adopt him when he was posing on top of a pumpkin I had picked and set by my front door.

Great little cat, but he can still outfight me about going to the vet's

Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (9MInk)

295 Do people now-a-days even know how to drive a stick?
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (OzJeO)


First car was a manual, and second and third as well. My current truck is a Tacoma with an automatic, but the next one I buy I'm going to try and find something with a manual.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (FYrz1)

296 "276 258.I don't know what a miter saw is. The other two I know. "

Haha clearly you've never suffered through trying to do your own trim work with a miter box and a handsaw.

Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (sjmF0)

297 I have a S-10 and have been driving it for 13 years.

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (6n332)

298 >>> Is it wrong for me to think about luring these elitist reporters to somewhere in 'flyover country'

"I really, really want to see us do this for government offices."

Democratic master porkmeister Robert Byrd shut down the Senate for a couple of weeks until he got his way on an appropriations bill that would locate a new U.S. Coast Guard facility in... his own home state of landlocked West Virginia.

So, there's no reason any longer to pretend that gooberment offices have to be located conveniently or logically relative to their intended function.

Call it the Saint Incarnate Robert C. Byrd Rule, force it down the Democrats' throats with constant reminders that they created the proof of principle, and start posting federal bureaucrats en masse to places like Barrow, Alaska.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (noWW6)

299 These people are mentally ill and have Cluster B personality disorders.

I place the blame on social media for creating these or making them worse. People know, and studies back it up, that using social media is unhealthy and causes depression, anxiety, and Narcissism. Obviously People should be held responsible as well but nobody seems to want to point the finger at social media and help these people, who more than likely will harm themselves or others.

(Not trying to offend or upset anybody using social media) Just saying too much of it is really unhealthy.

Posted by: Pepe at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (7SUm3)

300 Fiat 500?

https://youtu.be/oxbum3is6G0?t=14s

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (idrE1)

301 I suppose the greater point is that these media dopes are completely unaware that the pickup truck isn't just an odd choice in a car - it's not even just an article hunting and fishing equipment - it's a tool, a job, and a gateway to entrepreneurship for lots and lots of Americans.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (y/9kR)

302 Yeah, that and the Honda CRV were also on the list here in mid-MI. I ended up with a manual Impreza wagon which handles the snow just as well, but apparently I'm now a lesbian who listens to nothing but the Indigo Girls, so, y'know, keep that in mind.
--

I've owned two Subaru Legacy's; they're pricey to fix.

Really thought I would buy a CRV, but I didn't like it when I did a test drive. Same with the Nissan Rogue. The Rav4 beat both all counts, including price.

You might be an Indigo Girl loving lesbian; I AM NOT SUPPORTING THE UAW. I am a blasphemer!

/I think I win.

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (J5mC3)

303 Pooky's vent tube is out and he's not restrained
anymore. He's in and out consciousness, wanting to speak but dehydrated.
Just trying to figure out childcare arrangements and when Pookette can
see him.


Posted by: pookysgirl at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (gmvO1)
==========================

His tube's out - that's a good sign.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (bpfzP)

304 "What I do hate is when they make a virtue of their
ignorance - pontificating about "assault rifles" and whatnot when it's
clear they don't know the first thing about guns. Then when they're
corrected, they just blow it off because they don't think they have to
actually know anything about guns to force their opinions about guns on
everyone.

"
-Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM

I should have married you.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (6gk0M)

305 Do people now-a-days even know how to drive a stick?

--

It is getting harder to find them. I had a salesman beg me to buy an automatic mustang GT since they didn't have any manuals on the lot. I told him there was no point to a Mustang with an automatic.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (7ZVPa)

306 I suspect that a lot of our elites don't know someone that owns their own personal car, unless it's the help.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (Pby3z)

307 They used to make the Brat.
Posted by: Grump
----------

Baja - A car with a little bed. GGE owns one.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (NBHj5)

308 257 Do you think Ekdahl could next ask how many people journalists know who own chainsaws and ballistic chaps?
Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (9MInk)

I'll bet if he asked how many people journalists know who own assless chaps, he'd get lots of affirmative answers.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (ZM2xo)

309 Didn't one of Bill Clinton's old campaign commercials have him driving around in a truck to show how well he relates to the commonfolk? Or do I have him confused with every other self-serving politician who has ever run for office?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (UBzPO)

310 289 Pooky's vent tube is out and he's not restrained anymore. He's in and out consciousness, wanting to speak but dehydrated. Just trying to figure out childcare arrangements and when Pookette can see him.
Posted by: pookysgirl at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (gmvO1)


Ganbatte. Do what you need to do, and the rest will fall into place.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (8nWyX)

311 -- Six-speed *manual* with a *clutch*? News to me.

"Ummmmmmmmmmmm. Let me talk to my manager."

-- Don't bother.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:10 PM (noWW6)


My Nissan Frontier is six-speed manual. I've been told it's one of the more effective theft-deterrents available today. Not a big truck, but it's tough as shit, and I love it.
Do people now-a-days even know how to drive a stick?
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (OzJeO)

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gloaty McGloatface at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (RwwCT)

312 Learned to drive in a Ford F-150 3 on the tree way back when most pickups where standard shift. These days my truck has a better entertainment system then my house does :p

Posted by: Big V at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (wuhZk)

313 Do people now-a-days even know how to drive a stick?
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (OzJeO)

=====================

I'm 31 and I can. I can't buy a manual transmission, though, because my wife can't drive one and she sometimes needs to take my car places.

I do miss it, though.

Also, if I ever decide to rob a bank and need a quick getaway vehicle, I don't need to worry about manual vs. automatic. So I have that going for me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (/prE6)

314 Posted by: The Political Hat at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (OzJeO)
I do, the kids not so much.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (IgBFP)

315


That isnt the problem

The problem is that then they might have to concede they do not know very much at all about half the country


The people they have been calling racist nazis

Posted by: ThunderB at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (IRimx)

316 "Do you know anyone who goes fishing on the weekends?" is another question.

I hate fishing.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (zc3Db)

317 281 Good thread to ask has anyone ever had issues with the F-150 ecoboost engine? Like hesitation on acceleration?

Posted by: Marcus T

First thing I thought of was possible vacuum leak somewhere which caused me a similar issue years ago. Or bad gas/condensation in gas tank

Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (m2hXj)

318 I owned a truck when I came to Texas, but have since downsized to a car for the time being.

OT: can anybody give me am update on when SMFH's hubby's funeral is? I've been a bit out of touch lately.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (KUaxm)

319 Of course, that's not quite a 1 to 1 example, but the way some conservatives have turned on people like National Review because they said something they didn't like is very much in that vein.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (/prE6)

Oh goodie a fight about the KWD
yee haw as us rednecks would say

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (voOPb)

320
I know carpenters who don't even know what a worm-drive saw is.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (4Ejxg)

321 These people are mentally ill and have Cluster B personality disorders.


I place the blame on social media for creating these or making them worse. People know, and studies back it up, that using social media is unhealthy and causes depression, anxiety, and Narcissism. Obviously People should be held responsible as well but nobody seems to want to point the finger at social media and help these people, who more than likely will harm themselves or others.


(Not trying to offend or upset anybody using social media) Just saying too much of it is really unhealthy.
--
LOL Pepe.

See my comment at #16.

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (J5mC3)

322 I suspect that a lot of our elites don't know someone that owns their own personal car, unless it's the help.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
---------

Why would I want a car? I ride in a government limo.

Posted by: Steven Chu, Sec. of Energy at January 04, 2017 04:24 PM (ZO497)

323 My dad had a '57 Ford 3/4 ton truck, and I used to love to drive it when I got to be a teenager.

I have owned 2 trucks in my life; my ex drove a Dodge Dakota that I enjoyed driving.

It just occurred to me that my 2 older brothers and 1 older sister never owned trucks. They're all rabid liberals, too. Huh.

Posted by: fly gal at January 04, 2017 04:24 PM (8TdcF)

324 "Last night going to the Y, we passed a truck that
was disabled in the ditch. Then we found out why. Dead deer all over the
place. If I had come home afterwards and used the mitre saw, I could
have hit the trifecta.
"
-Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (bpfzP)

You.
Are.
The.
Best.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:24 PM (6gk0M)

325 Of course, that's not quite a 1 to 1 example, but the way some conservatives have turned on people like National Review because they said something they didn't like is very much in that vein.

No, I agree, the right can be very unforgiving and angry, but its usually directed at the people on their own side who don't measure up or betray them ideologically.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:24 PM (39g3+)

326 >>Not everyone wants a farm truck.

We tow my buddy's boat back and forth to the Keys every winter. One of his trucks is a Chevy 2500 Diesel Duramax Crew Cab that can pull a house and is totally plush inside.

Yea, 1500 miles each way and my ass wants a comfy seat and some pampering.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 04:24 PM (/tuJf)

327 I can't hold my beer with a manual transmission.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 04, 2017 04:24 PM (Pby3z)

328 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:22 PM (6gk0M)

Ah geez, Slap, it's a shame I never came strolling into your tanning salon with my big hair and leg warmers, asking for directions to the Indians game.....

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (ZM2xo)

329 @275, no. Never in the traditional (body on frame) sense. They had the BRAT and the Baja, which were neat and unibody.

I want a Baja Turbo with 5 speed. Swap in some nice aftermarket parts and I can keep up with the bro-trucks, no problem.

Posted by: GeoSTI at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (w1GWh)

330 "Is anyone else annoyed that nobody makes anything like the old Toyota 2WD four-banger pickups anymore?"

Toyota corporate still do design and sell basic, bare-bones, ultra-durable small pickups in global markets. Just not in the USA.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (noWW6)

331 Both direct neighbors have trucks...

Girlfriends Son has a truck...

I've owned a couple of trucks... but not now..



This is one of those flyover country vs. Los Angeles / New York / DC things...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (qf6WZ)

332 I took one of my vehicles for warranty work. When I went to pick it up, nobody in the shop in the late afternoon knew how to drive a stick, so I had to go get it out of the back lot.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (7ZVPa)

333 I know carpenters who don't even know what a worm-drive saw is.
Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite
---------
They are little more than handymen.
*eyes Skil worm-drive saw*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (ZO497)

334 I can't hold my beer with a manual transmission.

It bangs my girlfriend in the chest when I'm driving.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (FYrz1)

335 I can't hold my beer with a manual transmission.

That's what your crotch is for.

Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (QQ+il)

336 Pooky's vent tube is out and he's not restrained
anymore. He's in and out consciousness, wanting to speak but dehydrated.
Just trying to figure out childcare arrangements and when Pookette can
see him.




Posted by: pookysgirl at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (gmvO1)
==========================

His tube's out - that's a good sign.

---

Agreed. A please remember--- every single person is an individual, and the doctors make educated guesses in regards to their prognosis. That is why medicine is an art, not a science. Please take it a day at a time and pray.

{{hugs}}

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (J5mC3)

337 >My Nissan Frontier is six-speed manual. I've been told it's one of the more effective theft-deterrents available today.

Friend drove my (manual) car to the emergency room, they said 'we have valet', gives the keys to the guy and he says 'we can't drive this'. Lol.

Posted by: Lea at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (lIU4e)

338 The F-150 is what the Apple laptop is to the hipster urban dweller, if the hipster dweller ever did use the laptop to write something for which he or she got paid.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 04, 2017 04:26 PM (y/9kR)

339 OT-Can I complain about incredibly stupid spam?

"My wife walked in on me......"

There followed by the sad travails (but ultimately uhhh-"happy ending" of "Pastor Randy Conley" who was watching porn when his wife walked in on him but now things are great because he got some natural supplement that spiced up his love life.

I guess nobody figured out that there are women pastors and while we may be watching porn ({'m not), we might not think it was the best idea to have our clerical name associated with male enhancement drugs.

Ugh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:26 PM (tOcW/)

340 Her Majesty and I would both love a manual with a stick. In Houston, though, getting stuck in traffic with a manual is a pain at our age.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 04, 2017 04:26 PM (J8/9G)

341 327 I can't hold my beer with a manual transmission.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 04, 2017 04:24 PM (Pby3z)

Rookie.

Drink in one hand, food in the other. Knee under steering wheel. Use the bottom 2 fingers on the right hand to shift.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:26 PM (8hICw)

342 Ah yes, here's Hillary campaigning from the bed of a pickup: https://penraker.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/809765951.jpg

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 04, 2017 04:26 PM (UBzPO)

343 263
Holy cow. We have enough truck owners here to do a meetup.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:18 PM (BP2E4)

At the TexasMoMe last October, Ben Had's pasture was full of trucks.

Posted by: Sixkiller at January 04, 2017 04:26 PM (mFA3Z)

344 VIA, I would love a Fiat 850 Sypder, oh, yes, yes, I would.


That actually bothers me, pickups aren't supposed to be luxury and comfort. They're supposed to be something you can get into muddy and sooty and dirty and not worry about the interior. Girlified pickups annoy me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM (39g3+)



He got it because they sold their house and bought a fifth wheel camper which is really nice and they're living in that full time. Since they downsized to just the one vehicle, he wanted something that could tow the fifth wheel and still be used for going out and about.

I needed a step stool just to reach the running boards to get into it and I'm not lying.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:26 PM (mf5HN)

345
Toyota corporate still do design and sell basic, bare-bones, ultra-durable small pickups in global markets.

An Al Qaeda favorite, no? Ha!

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:26 PM (4Ejxg)

346 I have a 1992 crew cab F350, it gets 3 priuses to the mile,
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (GX63o)
.............

LOL so how much is that in Spark EV's?

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 04:26 PM (HgMAr)

347 And another of Bill: http://images1.dallasobserver.com/imager/u/original/7143307/harkin_clinton_1.jpg

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (UBzPO)

348 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_500

But, it's so you.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2017 04:18 PM (J+eG2)

Might be too much car for her

This might be better;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isetta

Or this;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_P50

Posted by: kbdabear at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (Ya7zs)

349 >>>HUD to Chicago
EPA to Flint
VA to Norfolk (or near one of the major army bases).
HHS to El Paso
INS also to El Paso

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:12 PM (J5mC3)

Nobody to Detroit?

Posted by: m at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (3jGss)

350 322 I suspect that a lot of our elites don't know someone that owns their own personal car, unless it's the help.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
---------

Why would I want a car? I ride in a government limo.
Posted by: Steven Chu, Sec. of Energy at January 04, 2017 04:24 PM (ZO497)

Yeah.... but I'm sure their lawn guy owns a truck....

if... they have a lawn...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (qf6WZ)

351 I can't hold my beer with a manual transmission.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
---------
Bah. I used to hold a cup of coffee, the steering wheel, and shift with my knee.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (ZO497)

352 "Ah geez, Slap, it's a shame I never came strolling
into your tanning salon with my big hair and leg warmers, asking for
directions to the Indians game...
"
-Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (ZM2xo)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (6gk0M)

353 311: no. most people that boost cars or trucks cannot drive a stick.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (KP5rU)

354 Why thank you Slap - you're making me blush.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (bpfzP)

355 I don't know why people have such trouble with the three words that are the beginning of all wisdom:

I.

Don't.

Know.

- Ace

This is very true. More and more people refuse to say these words and refuse to seek answers.

Again social media has become reality for many people escpecially on The Left. The 21st century ghettos.

Lord knows the damage it is and will do to the children of social media.

But don't worry Zuckerberg has a quick fix to this insanity.... Virtual reality social media. What could go wrong here? Amiright?

Posted by: Pepe at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (7SUm3)

356 Reminds me of a parody I once read about an outsider, maybe a reporter, as a guest judge at a chili cook off. Went something like this.

Judge 1: Nice beef to tomato ratio. Mild spice. Good.

Judge 2: Nice use of chipotle. Needs more cayenne though.

Guest Judge: OH MY FUCKING GAWD IVE EATEN NAPALM! MY BRAIN IS ON FIRE AND IM ABOUT TO BLOW MY GUTS OUT OF MY ASSHOLE! WHERE THE FUCK IS THE PORTA POTTY?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (kTF2Z)

357 I saw this on The Right Scoop earlier today & it proves, again, reporters are idiots that can't think.

I'm out & using iPhone.
BBL?

Posted by: Carol at January 04, 2017 04:28 PM (sj3Ax)

358 We have Menards, not sure where you are at. They rent out pickups starting at 19.95 for 2 hours in city.



Home Depot does also.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 04:28 PM (dSqvH)

359
You gotta wonder if anyone at Toyota ever considered an ad campaign aimed at muslim terrorists since they like their trucks so much.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:28 PM (4Ejxg)

360 Ballistic assless chaps? Where do you get those at?

Posted by: Bahney Fwank at January 04, 2017 04:28 PM (8TdcF)

361 "You never have to suffer from performance anxiety again"

I don't. Excerpt the first Christmas I served a church and was so nervous I set the Advent wreath on fire. I'm quite comfortable on stage or in front of people. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:28 PM (tOcW/)

362 Bah. I used to hold a cup of coffee, the steering wheel, and shift with my knee.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (ZO497)

Three on the tree?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:28 PM (8hICw)

363 I used to have a truck laying around just so I could use it to haul stuff around and go back and forth from the lumber yard and what not.

Now I drive a newer truck and have an old Bronco laying around in case I need to climb a hill or drive in mud and don't want to mess up my good car (the truck).

Posted by: DanMan at January 04, 2017 04:28 PM (aZqu2)

364 "Bah. I used to hold a cup of coffee, the steering wheel, and shift with my knee."
-Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (ZO497)

^THIS^

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:28 PM (6gk0M)

365 "Fiat 500?

https://youtu.be/oxbum3is6G0?t=14s"

Size is about right.

But performance was a little bit lacking.


The nuns at the convent would pass me going uphill.
On their skateboards.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2017 04:29 PM (J+eG2)

366 Related : Just heard the news guys and it's bad. Latest polls out of Texas indicate it's in play.

Posted by: the extremely deplorable and very racist, sexist, bigotted and homophobic james at January 04, 2017 04:29 PM (jxw6R)

367 Good thread to ask has anyone ever had issues with the F-150 ecoboost engine? Like hesitation on acceleration?

Posted by: Marcus

Check the throttle body intake. A good shot of cleaner could do the trick.

Posted by: Golfman at January 04, 2017 04:29 PM (48QDY)

368 356 Reminds me of a parody I once read about an outsider, maybe a reporter, as a guest judge at a chili cook off. Went something like this.

Judge 1: Nice beef to tomato ratio. Mild spice. Good.

Judge 2: Nice use of chipotle. Needs more cayenne though.

Guest Judge: OH MY FUCKING GAWD IVE EATEN NAPALM! MY BRAIN IS ON FIRE AND IM ABOUT TO BLOW MY GUTS OUT OF MY ASSHOLE! WHERE THE FUCK IS THE PORTA POTTY?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (kTF2Z)

=====================

Nothing wrong with that reaction, until he decides that he knows more about chili than the first two judges and tries to have the town council implement an ordinance that no chili can be that hot anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:29 PM (/prE6)

369 Does Subaru make a pickup?

Posted by: tu3031 at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (qJhUV)


In the 80's, they made the BRAT....It was pure garbage. Had a friend who had one. Utter rubbish.

Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:29 PM (xttKs)

370 >>This is one of those flyover country vs. Los Angeles / New York / DC things...

More of an urban/suburban and beyond. We have tradesmen and things to tow and tote here on the coast as well.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 04:29 PM (/tuJf)

371 351 I can't hold my beer with a manual transmission.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
---------
Bah. I used to hold a cup of coffee, the steering wheel, and shift with my knee.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 04, 2017 04:27 PM (ZO497)


That is why you are known as Mr. Hammer and not Hammer

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2017 04:29 PM (voOPb)

372 346
I have a 1992 crew cab F350, it gets 3 priuses to the mile,

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 04, 2017 04:19 PM (GX63o)

.............



LOL so how much is that in Spark EV's?

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 04:26 PM (HgMAr)


Divide by zero.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 04, 2017 04:29 PM (GX63o)

373 I have a little Datsun truck it's a manual, it has 4 wheel drive and the drivers seat is on the right. It's fun to drive. The tires look like golf cart tires.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:30 PM (IgBFP)

374 Drink in one hand, food in the other. Knee under steering wheel. Use the bottom 2 fingers on the right hand to shift.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:26 PM (8hICw)


Ha! My father use to do that while driving our VW Super Beetle. Good memories!

Posted by: I Be That Chick at January 04, 2017 04:30 PM (S/qwI)

375 Excerpt the first Christmas I served a church and was so nervous I set the Advent wreath on fire.
=================================


Fenelon - I didn't know you were Swedish.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:30 PM (bpfzP)

376 337 >My Nissan Frontier is six-speed manual. I've been told it's one of the more effective theft-deterrents available today.

Friend drove my (manual) car to the emergency room, they said 'we have valet', gives the keys to the guy and he says 'we can't drive this'. Lol.
Posted by: Lea at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (lIU4e)

I always warn valets when I pull up in my Camaro...

Its a stick... (had to special order it here in Clownifornia...)

Posted by: Don Q. at January 04, 2017 04:30 PM (qf6WZ)

377 Truck-owner knower here.

Great post, ace. I'll have to read some of the Twitter comments when I get home from work.

Posted by: rickl at January 04, 2017 04:30 PM (zoehZ)

378
Nothing wrong with that reaction, until he decides that he knows more about chili than the first two judges and tries to have the town council implement an ordinance that no chili can be that hot anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:29 PM (/prE6

Did the chili have carrots?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2017 04:30 PM (voOPb)

379 Windowless vans ..

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:17 PM (QQ+il)





Harry Reid: Why yes, that was mine parked by the all boys school yesterday. And the day before...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2017 04:30 PM (493sH)

380 351: i could drink beer, light a cigarette, and like do other stuff with my girlfriend, driving a stick. no cupholders or hold my beer either. priorities, man.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (KP5rU)

381 I don't know any reporters, but I bump into them once in a while. My picture was actually on the front page of or city newspaper once (a silhouette of me playing on the grade school's play area). But there's a pretty big difference here: there are very few reporters and a crapload of pickup truck types in America. I do know some academics, God help me, and a few lawyers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (39g3+)

382 "Four on the Floor" is what I grew-up with. My Dad had "Three in the Tree".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (6gk0M)

383 Toyota corporate still do design and sell basic, bare-bones, ultra-durable small pickups in global markets. Just not in the USA.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:25 PM (noWW6)


That's cool, odd that there isn't a market here for a tiny knockaround pickup. Actually there probably is, but regulations wouldn't allow it.

My own personal heaven is waking up and being 8 years old, driving around a Daihatsu keitora fire truck every day:
http://tinyurl.com/jfj4o3j

Posted by: hogmartin at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (8nWyX)

384 #339

There followed by the sad travails (but ultimately uhhh-"happy ending"
of "Pastor Randy Conley" who was watching porn when his wife walked in
on him but now things are great because he got some natural supplement
that spiced up his love life.

=====

That's some world-class google analytics, there. You need to clear your cookies more often

Posted by: mrp at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (JBggj)

385
That's what your crotch is for.

Great punchline!

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (4Ejxg)

386 Ha! My father use to do that while driving our VW Super Beetle. Good memories!
Posted by: I Be That Chick at January 04, 2017 04:30 PM (S/qwI)

That's how my older brother was taught to drive in driver's ed.

...which was taught by the sheriff's son.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (8hICw)

387 Hell, the native New Yorkers I know never even got driver's licenses - which is understandable if you've ever been to NY.

I know a working class guy who grew up in Manhattan, never went to college, never borrowed money from anybody but a loan shark...

...he didn't get a State Non-Driver ID card until he was 40. Never needed one.

Only reason he got it was he got arrested a few times and the young cops made fun of him, saying that it would be a simple ticket if they could verify who he was.

Being polite to the cops and carrying an old Xerox of his Birth Certificate worked for him for decades.

Posted by: Oschisms at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (ZsN9X)

388 I don't. Excerpt the first Christmas I served a church and was so nervous I set the Advent wreath on fire. I'm quite comfortable on stage or in front of people. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:28 PM (tOcW/)



*settles at Fenelon's feet*

Tell the Horde that story, please.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (mf5HN)

389 osted by: pookysgirl at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (gmvO1)

Thanks for the update. Will continue to keep you in prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (tOcW/)

390 "Three on the tree?"


*Facepalm*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (J+eG2)

391 Heh, and on comes the song "One's on the Way" with Loretta Lynch singing about celebrities, big time news, politics and how mom is just busy taking care of the kids

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (39g3+)

392 How many people do you know that own Subaru's?


Are any of them straight?



Posted by: NY Slime brain dead editors at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (aTg6G)

393 Whoops, the top part of my post is supposed to be a quote from an earlier Moron!

Posted by: Oschisms at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (ZsN9X)

394 I lived in Suffolk County, Long Island for five years. All I can say is, there's no place like home. Snobbery and stuffiness and oh aren't you just the biggest hick ever. No thanks.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (bpfzP)

395 Learned to drive a pickup with the shifter on the column. Remember those?

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (BP2E4)

396 Latino Americans don't own any trucks?

want to see if that is false? go to a recycling center.
Every spring we have a free pickup for spring cleanup day in Elmhurst, IL.
Starting two days before, people start putting stuff out at the curb, and every scrap picker with a pickup cruises the streets looking for scrap metal etc.
at least 90% are Latino.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (FIrEF)

397 381 I don't know any reporters, but I bump into them once in a while. My picture was actually on the front page of or city newspaper once (a silhouette of me playing on the grade school's play area). But there's a pretty big difference here: there are very few reporters and a crapload of pickup truck types in America. I do know some academics, God help me, and a few lawyers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (39g3+)

====================

The point is less, "I know x numbers of people is y number of groups, so I know a greater cross section of America than you," it's "I write about how America is going to react to things, but I have such a siloed view of America that I literally cannot imagine how very large swaths of Americans feel about something as basic as what they drive on a daily basis."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (/prE6)

398 Is anyone else annoyed that nobody makes anything like the old Toyota
2WD four-banger pickups anymore? Those were pretty handy trucks, good
mileage and handling. Drove on snow like a bag of smashed ass unless you
had 200lb of sandbags in the bed, but still a useful and economical
little truck.

****

I have a '93 Toyota PU with 275,000 miles on it and it runs great. I only use it on weekends for home/yard projects. So I have only put maybe 10,000 miles on it myself. I bought it with all those miles knowing it still had a lot left in it.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (18h+i)

399 Three on the tree?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric
------------

4-speed.
The current Chevy has cup holders, so that simplifies things.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 04, 2017 04:33 PM (ZO497)

400 "Nobody to Detroit?"

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, of course.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:33 PM (noWW6)

401 Father928 owned one of these when I was born. I wish he had kept it.

https://is.gd/2yuMsQ

Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at January 04, 2017 04:33 PM (QQ+il)

402 Posted by: rhomboid at January 04, 2017 04:07 PM (QDnY+)

I asked the question about fishing only in the "bubble" sense of it.

(Three people I know fish on the weekend: one is a CPA, one is a retired engineer, the third I cannot recall.)

These journalists travel in a world that has boundaries and they have - get this - no curiosity about what lies beyond the boundaries of their "bubbles" when their profession would seem to require them too.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2017 04:33 PM (hLRSq)

403 Is it Friday yet?

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at January 04, 2017 04:33 PM (uhftQ)

404 392
How many people do you know that own Subaru's?

Are any of them straight?


Posted by: NY Slime brain dead editors at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (aTg6G)



Wife and I also own a subaru - and we hump like bunnies.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 04, 2017 04:33 PM (GX63o)

405 On their skateboards?

LOL

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 04:33 PM (idrE1)

406 Learned to drive a pickup with the shifter on the column. Remember those?
Posted by: Marcus T
-----------

So, a late model.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (ZO497)

407 Three in the tree??


WTF apostrophe boy.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (JmjOe)

408 Isn't Suffolk County the rural part of Lawn Guyland? And they're snubbing you?

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (J8/9G)

409 Could've sworn you'd get more Sparks per mile than Prii. Plus maybe a few bicycles.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (HgMAr)

410 Learned to drive a pickup with the shifter on the column. Remember those?

--

Me too, hated three on the tree - especially with no syncromesh in first gear.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (7ZVPa)

411 402 These journalists travel in a world that has boundaries and they have - get this - no curiosity about what lies beyond the boundaries of their "bubbles" when their profession would seem to require them too.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2017 04:33 PM (hLRSq)

======================

If your job is to fix cars in Nebraska, and you don't want to tell Manhattanites how to live, then not know how people in Manhattan live is not a problem for you.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (/prE6)

412 I like sports cars. My dream car would be something the size of a Triumph spitfire with a V-8.

In general, I am not a huge truck fan. I just do not like the ride and lack of road feel. However I recently moved, and drove my Dad's truck (a Chevy Avalanche special edition) and I actually liked it. The ride was better, the steering felt a bit more tight than the other trucks I have driven. The V-8 is nice. The heated and cooled seats are a nice, if extraneous, feature.

There is something to be said for practical vehicles.


While they are not personally

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (92kX2)

413 Pfft. I adore my Ford Raptor. Hell hound actually fits in it. I can haul the horse trailer through the mountains easily. And it looks bad ass doing it.

And snow! So. Much. Fun!


Although, when I say I *climb* into my truck, I'm being literal.

Posted by: Occam's Epilady at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (prEBe)

414 ""Three on the tree?"


*Facepalm*
-Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (J+eG2)

No. Three "In" the tree.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (6gk0M)

415 Putting the shifter on the steering column was a major innovation.

Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at January 04, 2017 04:35 PM (QQ+il)

416 How many people do you know that own Subaru's?


Are any of them straight?



Posted by: NY Slime brain dead editors at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (aTg6G)


Was at a happy hour with some friends and one woman said she was looking for a car and really liked the Subaru. My bud told her "look at the next one you see on the road and see what's driving it." She said "why?"

He told her she wasn't a carpet muncher, so she should avoid those vehicles.

Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:35 PM (xttKs)

417 osted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (J5mC3

Great minds, right?

And lets take it a step further. The people tasks with managing these personality disorders are leftists/Cultural Marxists.... And probably spend a couple of hours a day on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter for non work related stuff.

So how long should we be holding our breath for these punitive to get the help and management that they need?

Posted by: Pepe at January 04, 2017 04:35 PM (7SUm3)

418 Isn't Suffolk County the rural part of Lawn Guyland? And they're snubbing you?

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (J8/9G)
===============

Think "Hamptons".

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:35 PM (bpfzP)

419 When I was a kid, my dad had a 1962 Valiant, it was such a neat little car. The transmission went out and he couldn't afford to get it fixed so it sat until she sold it to pay bills.

It had a push button transmission, on the dashboard and super cool fins on the back. Apparently it was a zippy little car when it was running.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:35 PM (39g3+)

420 Saved by "close-tags" again.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:35 PM (6gk0M)

421 I had a Subaru Forester. It was fun to drive. But I felt it didn't live up to Asian standards of reliability.
The Subaru ads are super annoying now though. I don't know if I would ever want another Subaru because of those ads.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 04, 2017 04:35 PM (Om16U)

422 I like sports cars. My dream car would be something the size of a Triumph spitfire with a V-8.


I want a Miata with a twin-rotor Wankle in it.

Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at January 04, 2017 04:36 PM (QQ+il)

423 we hump like bunnies.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 04, 2017 04:33 PM (GX63o)


Must be nice.....

Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:36 PM (xttKs)

424 388 I don't. Excerpt the first Christmas I served a church and was so nervous I set the Advent wreath on fire. I'm quite comfortable on stage or in front of people. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:28 PM (tOcW/)


*settles at Fenelon's feet*

Tell the Horde that story, please.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (mf5HN)

Oh, yes.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:36 PM (ZM2xo)

425
I can't hold my beer with a manual transmission. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 04, 2017 04:24 PM (Pby3z)

So put the manual transmission down

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 04, 2017 04:36 PM (lKyWE)

426 Yeah three on the three. On a construction site where they berated me mercilessly for not being able to drive it.

I learned fast.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:36 PM (BP2E4)

427 I want a Miata with a twin-rotor Wankle in it.
Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at January 04, 2017 04:36 PM (QQ+il)

There's a fun word to say.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:36 PM (8hICw)

428 Let me add: In all likelihood these journalists all want to change the world. They know nothing of the world outside their bubbles.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2017 04:36 PM (hLRSq)

429 Are any of them straight?



Posted by: NY Slime brain dead editors at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (aTg6G)

I know one. Married and a skydiver. Was run off the road about a year ago. Flipped. Not a scratch.

He's a believer.

Posted by: Golfman at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (48QDY)

430 It had a push button transmission, on the dashboard and super cool fins on the back. Apparently it was a zippy little car when it was running.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:35 PM (39g3+)


Wasn't the Edsel the first car to feature a push-button transmission?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (zc3Db)

431 Trucks? Shit, crossovers and SUVs rule surbs now.



Does any mommy own just a car?

Posted by: Jill Stein, the green frog at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (aTg6G)

432 My Grandpa had a push button shifter in the 70s.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (JmjOe)

433 380 351: i could drink beer, light a cigarette, and like do other stuff with my girlfriend, driving a stick. no cupholders or hold my beer either. priorities, man.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (KP5rU

U Da Man

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (voOPb)

434 @422 Yes, please.
Or a 20B 3-rotor.

Posted by: GeoSTI at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (w1GWh)

435 I want a Miata with a twin-rotor Wankle in it.
Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at January 04, 2017 04:36 PM (QQ+il)

That's pretty much an RX-7. The B body style was what the NB miatas were patterned after. Plus, I think a few of them were twin turbo charged.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (92kX2)

436 428 Let me add: In all likelihood these journalists all want to change the world. They know nothing of the world outside their bubbles.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2017 04:36 PM (hLRSq)

===================

"I don't care how happy you THINK you are. You will be happier when you do what I think is best."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (/prE6)

437 "Three on the tree?"



With the hi beam switch on the floor.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (dSqvH)

438 hab a chevy nova ss and a camaro rs. both four speeds. grannie shifting was not an option on those cars. fun rides. wish i had the nova back.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (KP5rU)

439 and paddle shifters.

Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (QQ+il)

440
Learned to drive a pickup with the shifter on the column. Remember those? --

Three on the tree

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (lKyWE)

441 My favorite arrogant-coastal-elitist-in-flyover-country story still has nothing to do with vehicles.

It's Jawn Forbes Kerry, running for President in 2004, in the coffee shop of the Holiday Inn in Emporia, Kansas, imperiously ordering green tea with his breakfast.

The waitress, staring at him: "We have Lipton's."

Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (noWW6)

442 >>I like sports cars. My dream car would be something the size of a Triumph spitfire with a V-8.

You'd like my TR6. Only a V-6 but a hand built race V-6 with a lowered and stiffed suspension. Road feel is not an issue.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (/tuJf)

443 With a pickup you never needed a hotel room in those days. Just sayin.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (BP2E4)

444 Lent my 1990 F350 to my brother to collect a VW engine for his latest nightmare, he drove 6 hours total and instead of thanking me said: "Fucking thing doesn't have any cupholders".
Ingrate.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (HgMAr)

445 Me too, hated three on the tree - especially with no syncromesh in first gear.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (7ZVPa)


Just don't use first unless you're stopped. Unless you can pull off the rev it up and pull the gear while rolling trick.

Had a 66 Mustang with a non-synchro first gear. Got reasonably good at it.

Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (xttKs)

446 Could also ask them do they like the song "I Drive Your Truck."

Posted by: m at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (3jGss)

447 About five years ago, during the VIA family vacation back to Charleston, we took two of the neighbor kids with us from here in Baltimore.

A friend of ours owns a horse farm right outside of Summerville, so we loaded all the kids up and went over to visit.

Kids got to pet and ride horses, and just do what kids do in the south for the entire day.

Their favorite part?

Riding in the bed of the farm truck when it missed a turn in the mud, and smacked a tree head on.

Second favorite part?

When the 14 year old daughter fired up the front end loader, drove it through the woods to yank our stuck asses off the tree, out of the mud, and back to the trail.

Two years ago, they sold their house in Baltimore, and moved to South Carolina.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (J+eG2)

448 Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:31 PM (mf5HN)

I thought i had shared it )Boringly) numerous times. :^)

The first year i was ordained we had a real pine wreath. Over the four weeks of advent the purple candles had burned down. So I had lite one of the purple candles and while I was leading worship from the pulpit it burned down and set the wreath on fire. It wasn't a laze, but but it smoldered nicely. i understand gave a nice piney smell. The ushers had to carry it out and put it in a puddle outside. My friend the Orthodox priest said, "Don't set wreaths on fire. We'll lend you some incense."

Bu it made the former Catholics feel right at home. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (tOcW/)

449
Motor Week started to put up all their old car reviews on youtube. Quite nostalgic and entertaining.

There's also a semi-humorous youtuber who does "Regular Car Reviews" of regular cars of the past with yesterday's and today's perspective in mind.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (4Ejxg)

450 Does any mommy own just a car?
Posted by: Jill Stein, the green frog at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (aTg6G)



This is a serious question and not me being ewww kids are icky.

Can you even fit a car seat in a regular car? Okay, maybe one, but two?

That's an actual question.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (mf5HN)

451 *furiously orders pickup trucks for his beta version of Facebook virtual reality*

Posted by: Mark Zuckerberg at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (7SUm3)

452 Subaru actually made a decision to market to the Lesbo market.




http://tinyurl.com/zomo2o9

Posted by: Jill Stein, the green frog at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (aTg6G)

453 With the hi beam switch on the floor.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (dSqvH)


With manual transmissions going extinct and the hi-beam switch moved to the steering column the left foot has nothing to do anymore. What a waste.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (zc3Db)

454 wasn't a laze=Wasn't a blaze.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (tOcW/)

455 You'd like my TR6. Only a V-6 but a hand built race V-6 with a lowered and stiffed suspension. Road feel is not an issue.

Posted by: JackStraw


--

Because your posterior is numb after mile 4?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (7ZVPa)

456 @435 I thought it was FB -> NA then FC ->NB (based on age and headlight lines)

And yes, the FB had a turbo variant and all FCs are. If a clean one wasn't 30K+ I'd own it.

Posted by: GeoSTI at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (w1GWh)

457 he drove 6 hours total and instead of thanking me said: "Fucking thing doesn't have any cupholders".
Ingrate.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (HgMAr)


Tell him to enjoy paying U-Haul next time, then.

Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (xttKs)

458 You'd like my TR6. Only a V-6 but a hand built race V-6 with a lowered and stiffed suspension. Road feel is not an issue.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (/tuJf)

Call me taken in by marketing, but I want a 2008 Mustang Bullitt edition. I have always loved british racing green, and that sound. Damn.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:40 PM (92kX2)

459 429 Are any of them straight?



Posted by: NY Slime brain dead editors at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (aTg6G)

I know one. Married and a skydiver. Was run off the road about a year ago. Flipped. Not a scratch.

He's a believer.
Posted by: Golfman at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (48QDY)

My Lady Dulcinea... who is most certainly Heterosexual... and HAWT... drives a Subaru...

Its full time 4 wheel drive... and as my Camaro is the OPPOSITE of good in the Snow... she lets me borrow it to go skiing...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 04, 2017 04:40 PM (qf6WZ)

460 Loading a pickup truck with hay bales in a big barn, in Iowa. In August.

It almost killed me.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:40 PM (BP2E4)

461
I want a Miata with a twin-rotor Wankle in it.

Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at January 04, 2017 04:36 PM (QQ+il)



"There's a fun word to say"
-Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:36 PM (8hICw)

I believe is is "Wankel" and it was a popular Mazda engine. The XR7 had them, I think.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:40 PM (6gk0M)

462 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (tOcW/)
======================


You can be our special guest for Lucia Day next Christmas. You're a natural.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:41 PM (bpfzP)

463 450 Does any mommy own just a car?
Posted by: Jill Stein, the green frog at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (aTg6G)


This is a serious question and not me being ewww kids are icky.

Can you even fit a car seat in a regular car? Okay, maybe one, but two?

That's an actual question.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (mf5HN

Yes you can, try a Buick

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2017 04:41 PM (voOPb)

464 Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (dSqvH)
When I drive someone else's car, my first instinct is to look for the high beams on the floor with my foot. I also put my arm out when I stop suddenly and there's a kid in the front seat.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:41 PM (IgBFP)

465 >>Because your posterior is numb after mile 4?

Something like that.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 04:41 PM (/tuJf)

466 Kelmark used to a frame that would fit an unaltered VW bug body with a mid-engine small block V8.


They also sold a really cool bubble car body for a VW frame.

I always wanted to mate those two together and have a cheap Pantera.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:41 PM (QQ+il)

467 My friends ex-girlfriend, who was just your archetypical west coast "progressive", audibly scoffed at me when I said that I had at various times changed the tires, oil, and battery in my car by myself, and asked incredulously why I would do that myself instead of hiring someone else to. It truly seemed like she was operating from a premise that any measure of self-reliance was to be avoided if possible. I'm no gearhead, and am generally ashamed of my lack of usefulness when it comes to these sorts of things. She belongs to a tribe that wears their helplessness and dependence as a badge of honor. Bizarre.

Posted by: anotheranon at January 04, 2017 04:41 PM (dOFfJ)

468 Anyone posted Billy Joe Shaver's "Ragged Ol' Truck" yet?

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 04, 2017 04:41 PM (5kqPn)

469 used to sell


FMF

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:41 PM (QQ+il)

470 460 Loading a pickup truck with hay bales in a big barn, in Iowa. In August.

It almost killed me.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:40 PM (BP2E4)


Hay in Iowa? That's odd, usually its corn to shining corn.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (voOPb)

471 Learned to drive a pickup with the shifter on the column. Remember those? --

===============

My Dad bought a Ford F-100 after I went to school. A truck with a lot of character, it was mostly white. IIRC, it also had a three-speed manual mounted on the column. One my sisters, about 16 at the time, drove that truck like a pro.

Posted by: mrp at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (JBggj)

472 I thought i had shared it )Boringly) numerous times. :^)

The first year i was ordained we had a real pine wreath. Over the four weeks of advent the purple candles had burned down. So I had lite one of the purple candles and while I was leading worship from the pulpit it burned down and set the wreath on fire. It wasn't a laze, but but it smoldered nicely. i understand gave a nice piney smell. The ushers had to carry it out and put it in a puddle outside. My friend the Orthodox priest said, "Don't set wreaths on fire. We'll lend you some incense."

Bu it made the former Catholics feel right at home. :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (tOcW/)



That. Is. Awesome.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (mf5HN)

473 @450 AtC, yeah, you can fit two in most sedans. It's not a big deal unless you have three spawn under... 10ish now, given some state laws and booster seats.

Posted by: GeoSTI at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (w1GWh)

474 450 comments on trucks and nobody's switched topic to boobehs. It's a AoS record.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (HgMAr)

475 I believe is is "Wankel" and it was a popular Mazda engine. The XR7 had them, I think.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:40 PM (6gk0M)


It's a rotary engine and I think only Mazda used them in production cars. The RX8 used it as well in newer models as well.

Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (xttKs)

476 Leftists don't own pickup trucks and can't fathom anybody owning one because a prerequisite of ownership of a pickup truck is actually doing something to help other people without telling anybody that you have helped out people.

This is a foreign concept to the Elite Left.

Posted by: Pepe at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (7SUm3)

477 Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:41 PM (bpfzP)

Well,Ii didn't light myself fire-yet ;^) and I haven't repasted that performance.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (tOcW/)

478 Bu it made the former Catholics feel right at home. :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (tOcW/)

I actually felt cheated this year. I visited my parents for Christmas and went to mass at their parish (a pretty liberal one)- no incense.

I was thinking: We are Catholics darn it. Two times a year at least you have to have the church choking up- Christmas and Easter.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (92kX2)

479 411 402 These journalists travel in a world that has boundaries and they have - get this - no curiosity about what lies beyond the boundaries of their "bubbles" when their profession would seem to require them too.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2017 04:33 PM (hLRSq)

======================

If your job is to fix cars in Nebraska, and you don't want to tell Manhattanites how to live, then not know how people in Manhattan live is not a problem for you.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (/prE6)

Well, that's true, but the journalists in Manhattan seem to want to tell the guy in Nebraska how to live.

And I once thought that one reason people became journalists was because they were insatiably curious about life and other people. Who? What? Where? Why? How? What's at the bottom of this story? Why did he do that? Why would she think that way?

The weirdest thing about journalists today is that as they've become more "educated" (compared to the "Front Page" days) they seem so incurious - because they're more interested in pushing their own narrative than figuring out human motivations and learning about people who are not like them.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (ZM2xo)

480 Our only vehicle is a pickup. Husband's nephew has a contracting business in UT. He buys 3 year old trade ins, big expensive pickups. He does have horses to haul so it's not just a truck for show.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (Lqy/e)

481 I *want* a pickup, but (get this) because they're so popular, they're also too damned expensive, more expensive than I consider a good value proposition. Even (especially?) used pickups in my area (Hampton Roads/Tidewater). I mean, a clapped out *with large rust holes* '98 F150 for $8000? AYFKM?

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (R5EqA)

482
Can you even fit a car seat in a regular car? Okay, maybe one, but two?

That's an actual question.
Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (mf5HN)

------------

No. Regular cars are too damned small because CAFE standards.

Which is why trucks sell so well. They have room. Even if I weren't a hammer swinger I'd still buy trucks for the room.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (JmjOe)

483 Can you even fit a car seat in a regular car? Okay, maybe one, but two?



That's an actual question.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (mf5HN)
===============================

I have two car seats and a small (very tight) booster seat in my back seat. I haven't seen my actual backseat for seven years.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (bpfzP)

484 I believe is is "Wankel" and it was a popular Mazda engine. The XR7 had them, I think.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:40 PM (6gk0M)


The XR7 had a Wankle engine. They kind of sucked. The RX7 had a Wankel engine in it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:43 PM (zc3Db)

485 463
450 Does any mommy own just a car?

Posted by: Jill Stein, the green frog at January 04, 2017 04:37 PM (aTg6G)





This is a serious question and not me being ewww kids are icky.



Can you even fit a car seat in a regular car? Okay, maybe one, but two?



That's an actual question.



Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (mf5HN



Yes you can, try a Buick



Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2017 04:41 PM (voOPb)


Our Subaru Forester does it fine, but it is no Suburban or minivan.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 04, 2017 04:43 PM (GX63o)

486
My car is annoying me at the moment. The SEL (service engine light) is on and I can't yet figure out what the hell.

Computers (ECM's) are the worst thing.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:43 PM (4Ejxg)

487 Throwing hay bales is probably the quickest way to convince yourself that you will put up with a lot to avoid having to do it on a regular basis. Convinced me to get a STEM degree.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 04, 2017 04:43 PM (7ZVPa)

488 >Can you even fit a car seat in a regular car? Okay, maybe one, but two?
That's an actual question.
Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (mf5HN)

I have in my little Hyundai elantra when my nephews were little enough I think but it's a pain. Not more than two, though.

Posted by: Lea at January 04, 2017 04:43 PM (lIU4e)

489 Drudge Report is offline again right now. Govt. must be really pissed at him

Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at January 04, 2017 04:43 PM (m2hXj)

490 "Hay in Iowa? That's odd, usually its corn to shining corn."

Not when you have to feed livestock.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:43 PM (BP2E4)

491 Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:40 PM (92kX2)
My dream car is a 57 corvette. Black.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:44 PM (IgBFP)

492 I *want* a pickup, but (get this) because they're so popular, they're also too damned expensive, more expensive than I consider a good value proposition.

------

Yup. City kids driving up the cost.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 04:44 PM (JmjOe)

493 This is a serious question and not me being ewww kids are icky.

Can you even fit a car seat in a regular car? Okay, maybe one, but two?

That's an actual question.
Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (mf5HN)

I can fit two car seats in my 2008 mazda 3. No, the middle seat disappears and can't be used. But they fit.


With manual transmissions going extinct and the hi-beam switch moved to the steering column the left foot has nothing to do anymore. What a waste.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (zc3Db)

Sometimes when I first drive an auto transmission after solely driving my car for months, I will accidentally slam the brake pedal while approaching stop lights.

"Right, right, no clutch."

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:44 PM (8hICw)

494 pookysgirl at January 04, 2017 04:21 PM (gmvO1)

Hopefully more good news to follow.

Take care of yourself & family ...

Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at January 04, 2017 04:44 PM (AoK0a)

495 Can you even fit a car seat in a regular car? Okay, maybe one, but two?



That's an actual question.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:39 PM (mf5HN)

Not cheap one's that is for sure. I guess a Prius could? I'll axe my gay husband.

Posted by: Jill Stein, the green frog at January 04, 2017 04:44 PM (aTg6G)

496 Subaru and Lesbians?


It's not by accident.


http://tinyurl.com/gqdb65q

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2017 04:44 PM (J+eG2)

497 ...."The waitress, staring at him: "We have Lipton's."
"
-Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (noWW6)

They wrote that into "Breaking Bad".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:44 PM (6gk0M)

498 481
I *want* a pickup, but (get this) because they're so popular, they're also too damned expensive, more expensive than I consider a good value proposition. Even (especially?) used pickups in my area (Hampton Roads/Tidewater). I mean, a clapped out *with large rust holes* '98 F150 for $8000? AYFKM?

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (R5EqA)


Buy a ticket to the west coast, find a decent deal on a solid truck and drive it back. You'll be miles ahead in costs and body life.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (GX63o)

499 Thanks for all the answers to the car seat question.

Hey, lookit that, I didn't know something so I, get this, asked people who would and listened to the answers!

Lookit me practicing such arcane arts.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (mf5HN)

500 I just got back from the Daily Kos, and the consensus over there is that Trump might win the popular vote, but that it doesn't matter because Hillary will have the electoral votes and that's what counts....

Posted by: JoeF. at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (fa8fr)

501 467 My friends ex-girlfriend, who was just your archetypical west coast "progressive", audibly scoffed at me when I said that I had at various times changed the tires, oil, and battery in my car by myself, and asked incredulously why I would do that myself instead of hiring someone else to. It truly seemed like she was operating from a premise that any measure of self-reliance was to be avoided if possible. I'm no gearhead, and am generally ashamed of my lack of usefulness when it comes to these sorts of things. She belongs to a tribe that wears their helplessness and dependence as a badge of honor. Bizarre.
Posted by: anotheranon at January 04, 2017 04:41 PM (dOFfJ)

These types of personalities and the Left in general has a pathological need to inflict helplessness on other people.

Posted by: Pepe at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (7SUm3)

502 My car is annoying me at the moment. The SEL (service engine light) is on and I can't yet figure out what the hell.


Probably nothing. Most of those alerts are bullshit. But buy a code-reader and check it out. They're only like $10 or $15.

Computers (ECM's) are the worst thing.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:43 PM (4Ejxg)


Yep.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (zc3Db)

503 As a Sconnie hunter/trapper who works at the brewery, it's hard for me to think of someone I know who doesn't own two trucks...

Posted by: Ash at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (BLkrk)

504 475 I believe is is "Wankel" and it was a popular Mazda engine. The XR7 had them, I think.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:40 PM (6gk0M)

It's a rotary engine and I think only Mazda used them in production cars. The RX8 used it as well in newer models as well.
Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (xttKs)

There was a monty python skit about humorous words.

Wankel rotary engine made the cut.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (8hICw)

505 The Check Engine Light is the worst idiot light in existence because until you get a read on the error code you simply don't know. A loose gas cap will trigger the light just as much as an oxygen sensor has gone out. Real helpful.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (idrE1)

506 AtC, if you don't like the Fiat, look to the classic lines of the Renault 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY-lL6NmBQI

Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (9MInk)

507
Let's test your mechanical know-how.

Today I bought a can of Carb Cleaner. But my car's engine doesnt have a carburetor. Why did I buy the can of carb cleaner?

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (4Ejxg)

508 489
Drudge Report is offline again right now. Govt. must be really pissed at him


Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at January 04, 2017 04:43 PM (m2hXj)

Back up for me.

Posted by: Jill Stein, the green frog at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (aTg6G)

509 Or, "When's the last time you went to church?"





"Do you know anyone who owns a gun?"
Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (NOIQH)

Both good follow up questions, though their guard will be up now.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (sh70B)

510 499 Thanks for all the answers to the car seat question.

Hey, lookit that, I didn't know something so I, get this, asked people who would and listened to the answers!

Lookit me practicing such arcane arts.
Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (mf5HN)

Good job handling all the mansplaining.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (8hICw)

511 Remember when BMW and Mercedes Benz were top notch, elite cars? When Cadillac was a brand people hoped they could some day afford? Now they're just cars, some punk out of college can afford to drive one around.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (39g3+)

512 I have had 3 trucks, most everyone I have worked with (75 or more) and guess 75% have had trucks at one time. Most guys in construction have trucks.

Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (5sOEp)

513 491 Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:40 PM (92kX2)
My dream car is a 57 corvette. Black.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:44 PM (IgBFP)

I want the second body style. Whichever one had the twin sets of headlights. Red, with the cream trim. Ahhhhh.

Mine Fuhrer, I can walk!!!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (92kX2)

514 "487 Throwing hay bales is probably the quickest way to convince yourself that you will put up with a lot to avoid having to do it on a regular basis. Convinced me to get a STEM degree."

This.

Hardest physical work I've ever done, and I've done a lot.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (BP2E4)

515 @ soothsayer

It's my understanding that the light is on it's emissions, and if it's flashing there's a real problem.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (5kqPn)

516 Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (GX63o)
Not where I live. They can't keep them in stock.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (IgBFP)

517 Drudge Report is offline again right now. Govt. must be really pissed at him

Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at January 04, 2017 04:43 PM (m2hXj)


I got right in.

Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (xttKs)

518 Gotta be honest on this issue....I'm about the only guy I know who does not or has not owned a truck.
Given the prententious shitweasels referred to above, I feel dirty because of this lack of truck ownership and must take a long, cleansing shower.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me - Deploribus Unum at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (Ftuf+)

519 >>My dream car is a 57 corvette. Black.

I want a '58. I love the dual headlights. And red with the white accent.

Because I'm a pimp.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (/tuJf)

520 "The XR7 had a Wankle engine. They kind of sucked. The RX7 had a Wankel engine in it."

-Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:43 PM (zc3Db)

Thanks! My damned fat fingers are too stupid to type!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (6gk0M)

521 491: i could live with one of those. classic inside and out. for me, 68 z-28 camaro with the cross ram dual carb option.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (KP5rU)

522 The piston engine goes up and down while the Mazda engine goes round and round ...

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:47 PM (QQ+il)

523 way off topic, but I found this while rummaging through old emails, it's from Oct 24:
the Fiscal Times via yahoo:

It's
a thankless job being a Donald Trump surrogate these days. One of the
requirements is making appearances on the Sunday talk shows and, on a
day like today, when new polls show your candidate trailing in national
opinion polls by double digits and behind in almost every swing state,
pretend that he is still winning.The
job fell to campaign manager Kellyanne Conway and Republican National
Committee Chairman Reince Priebus this weekend, and both twisted
themselves in verbal knots casting the Trump campaign as something other
than a foundering ship that's headed to the bottom.

Posted by: mallfly on horseback salad at January 04, 2017 04:47 PM (b7fwp)

524 Stupid fingers.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:47 PM (6gk0M)

525 Sometimes when I first drive an auto transmission after solely driving my car for months, I will accidentally slam the brake pedal while approaching stop lights.

"Right, right, no clutch."
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:44 PM (8hICw)

Heh. Happens to me too.

I used to turn the windshield wipers on when signalling for a turn after I got back from Japan.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at January 04, 2017 04:47 PM (R5EqA)

526 Why did I buy the can of carb cleaner?

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All purpose cleaner. Clean your throttle body with it.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 04:47 PM (JmjOe)

527 genteel ignorance; how long until the elitists in this country start growing their pinky fingernails long?

Posted by: TexasDan at January 04, 2017 04:47 PM (yL25O)

528 Do you know anyone who owns a gun?"
Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (NOIQH)

And follow that up with, "Do you know anyone with a pick-up truck with a gun rack?"

They'd stroke out.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 04, 2017 04:47 PM (fa8fr)

529 Filling a pickup bed with aged, prime horse manure ain't no treat, either.

Did wonders for the garden, though.

Posted by: mrp at January 04, 2017 04:48 PM (JBggj)

530
Probably nothing. Most of those alerts are bullshit. But buy a code-reader and check it out. They're only like $10 or $15.

Oh it's definitely something. I'm getting a code for running too lean but don't know why it's running lean.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:48 PM (4Ejxg)

531 471 Learned to drive a pickup with the shifter on the column. Remember those? --


My father was in the car business.

When my oldest brother turned 16, he got a brand new 1967 Chevelle to drive for the year.

When my other brother turned 16 the next year, my dad took back the Chevelle and gave them both 1968 Impalas for the year.

Two years later, I turned 16. Unfortunately, it was a bad year. I got a 1957 Dodge pickup with 3 on the tree.

Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2017 04:48 PM (Zs4uk)

532 I'd want the '62 vette, like in Route 66.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:48 PM (QQ+il)

533 At least I don't have to deal with "autocorrect" and all my mistakes re my own.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:48 PM (6gk0M)

534 It's not a big deal unless you have three spawn under... 10ish now, given some state laws and booster seats.


Hmph. I say things started going downhill when we were made to care about children's lives.

I was coddled because I was an only, but I married into a big Irish Catholic family where the mom would sometimes leave a kid at the store and once let one fall out of the station wagon.

That's how you build resilience.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at January 04, 2017 04:48 PM (mgbwf)

535 It's Jawn Forbes Kerry, running for President in 2004, in the coffee shop of the Holiday Inn in Emporia, Kansas, imperiously ordering green tea with his breakfast.

The waitress, staring at him: "We have Lipton's."


Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:38 PM (noWW6)


That campaign was so great. Remember when they went to a Wendy's with Ben Affleck and Theresa didn't know what chili was? Then J f'ing K tried to chat with some servicemen who were polite but clearly didn't want to talk to him?

The kickers was that after they bought their prole food, they all went out to the campaign bus and dined on their real lunch, which was something like quail with a cranberry sauce and fingerling potatoes ....

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:48 PM (ZM2xo)

536 "528 Do you know anyone who owns a gun?"
Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (NOIQH) "

Just one? No. Change that to several and the answer changes.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2017 04:49 PM (BP2E4)

537
All purpose cleaner. Clean your throttle body with it.

True, that's a use for it. What else?

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:49 PM (4Ejxg)

538
Someone who wishes to signal he's an aristocrat will make sure he knows all about fashion, but will also never actually stitch his togs, and will proudly announce that he can't stitch them.

Babe Ruth grew up learning how to make shirts. For the rest of his life he did his own sewing, and quite expertly too.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 04, 2017 04:49 PM (J8/9G)

539 The piston engine goes Boing ditty Boing but the the Mazda goes mmmmmm.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:49 PM (QQ+il)

540 It's my understanding that the light is on it's emissions, and if it's flashing there's a real problem.
Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (5kqPn)

On the Mazda, if it is flashing, that means that there is an engine problem like a cylinder not firing. How I know that is an expensive story...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:49 PM (92kX2)

541 And without any further info, I've got $5 that says it's an o2 sensor or an intake plumbing leak. Something loose or an old cracked hose.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 04, 2017 04:49 PM (5kqPn)

542 For those wanting classic and expensive cars, tonight's Powerball cash jackpot, before taxes, is worth $48.2 million.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 04:49 PM (idrE1)

543 528 Do you know anyone who owns a gun?"
Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (NOIQH)

And follow that up with, "Do you know anyone with a pick-up truck with a gun rack?"

They'd stroke out.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 04, 2017 04:47 PM (fa8fr)

I'm old enough to remember when the High School parking lot was filled with Trucks, with Gun Racks.... with GUNS IN THEM during school.

Posted by: Don Q. at January 04, 2017 04:49 PM (qf6WZ)

544 At least I don't have to deal with "autocorrect" and all my mistakes re my own.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:48 PM (6gk0M)


I'm with you. Using autocorrect is like doing crosswords in pencil.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (zc3Db)

545 Can you even fit a car seat in a regular car? Okay, maybe one, but two?

--

It would be tight if it was two infant car seats (like for twins). A booster and a car seat would fit.
I think it would eliminate the possibility of a 3rd passenger in the back.

A bigger problem is that it's low so lifting the kids in and out can do a number on your back.

For hauling young kids around an SUV or min-van is best. Because there will be times when you'll be driving the kids friends too.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (Om16U)

546 I always wanted a VW Jetta when I was in college: small, good mileage, pretty sporty, but affordable. I never was a big car or truck guy. These days I'm more partial to old models, stuff I could retromod into a sweet ride today. Pickup Trucks to me are workhorses, anyone who buys one to have it as a car is a poser, to me, like guys who buy cowboy hats and don't know how to ride a horse.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (39g3+)

547 Do you know anyone who owns a gun?"
Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2017 04:05 PM (NOIQH)

And follow that up with, "Do you know anyone with a pick-up truck with a gun rack & quick lime?"

They'd stroke out.
Posted by: JoeF.




FIFY

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (dSqvH)

548 Posted by: mallfly on horseback salad at January 04, 2017 04:47 PM (b7fwp)
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Wow - is that for real? Talk about living in a bubble.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (bpfzP)

549 Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (92kX2)
I'd take either, as long as it has a removable hardtop. It has to be black though.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (IgBFP)

550 Smith & Wesson M&P is the best selling semi auto pistol. I wonder if they know anyone that owns one.

Chic-fil-a is the number one fast food franchise is the US. . .

Posted by: David Wellman at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (aWQkK)

551 A high school buddy used to drive his dad's RX-7 (with Herr Doktor Professor Felix Wankel's rotary engine). No growly muscle car ever shoved me back in the seat like that little thing did. Thankfully, I didn't have to pay for the rotor seal replacements either :kazoo noise:

Posted by: hogmartin at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (8nWyX)

552
My car is annoying me at the moment. The SEL (service engine light) is on and I can't yet figure out what the hell.

Its always something to do with the emmissions system.Check PCV

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (lKyWE)

553 Oh Lord won't you buy me an F Two Fifty?
All my friends drive Siverados, they're blind can't you see,
Worked hard all my lifetime, and no one likes me,
Oh Lord won't you buy me an F Two Fifty

Posted by: Janice from Joplin MO at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (EfUM6)

554
and if it's flashing there's a real problem.

Yeah, this is called "Limp Mode" and when this happens your car is almost always running terribly (on purpose) to make you stop driving and prevent further damage.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (4Ejxg)

555 I want a '58. I love the dual headlights. And red with the white accent.

Because I'm a pimp.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (/tuJf)

*Fist bump*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (92kX2)

556 True, that's a use for it. What else?

-----

Put it in a bag and huff it for a buzz??

*shrugs*

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 04:51 PM (JmjOe)

557 The weirdest thing about journalists today is that as they've become more "educated" (compared to the "Front Page" days) they seem so incurious - because they're more interested in pushing their own narrative than figuring out human motivations and learning about people who are not like them.



Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (ZM2xo)


Epistemic Closure. Closed-Mindedness.

You know, that thing they accuse all conservatives and Republicans of being. Once again, it's just projection.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2017 04:51 PM (hLRSq)

558 I use brake cleaner for cleaning my guns, but I bet carb cleaner works, too.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 04, 2017 04:51 PM (5kqPn)

559 I *want* a pickup, but (get this) because they're so popular, they're also too damned expensive, more expensive than I consider a good value proposition.

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I'm almost 40 and have only owned two vehicles my entire life since age 15. I wanted a pickup to be my third (I owned a pathfinder and then a old landcruiser that you could take the top off). And get this, way to expensive even used (I have 2kids under 5 so I can't get a old beat up truck like I could as a bachelor with no kids because regulations and busybodies who report dumb shit to the governmnet about other people's kids).

Posted by: Pepe at January 04, 2017 04:51 PM (7SUm3)

560 Babe Ruth grew up learning how to make shirts. For the rest of his life he did his own sewing, and quite expertly too.

Babe Ruth as a kid was the kind of poor we only associate with third world countries now. He never forgot that or that he was so fortunate to make as much as $100,000!!! in a year.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:51 PM (39g3+)

561 >>*Fist bump*

Yep. Just saw your comment. We need matching '58s.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 04:51 PM (/tuJf)

562 Good job handling all the mansplaining.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (8hICw)


By the insanity of cthulhu, someone on twitter used mansplaining in replying to me and meant it.

I just stared and stared and stared and was all nope they win because I have no response to such idiocy.

Posted by: alexthechick - Darth Victory Tits at January 04, 2017 04:51 PM (mf5HN)

563 @534 Bandersnatch, it's not that I don't care about my children's lives, I do greatly. I just struggle when the law says "12 years old" yet I guarantee my 6 year old stepson will be taller than his 5'3 mother at that age. She doesn't require a booster seat.

Posted by: GeoSTI at January 04, 2017 04:51 PM (w1GWh)

564 "I'm with you. Using autocorrect is like doing crosswords in pencil." -Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (zc3Db)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 04:51 PM (6gk0M)

565 "Today I bought a can of Carb Cleaner. But my car's engine doesnt have a carburetor. Why did I buy the can of carb cleaner?"

You need to clean a firearm?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2017 04:52 PM (J+eG2)

566 Except a Wankel technically does not have cylinders. And from what Merovign has said in the past one issue with those engines is their seals deteriorate.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 04:52 PM (idrE1)

567 All purpose cleaner. Clean your throttle body with it.

True, that's a use for it. What else?


Dessert topping?

Posted by: Dan Aykroyd at January 04, 2017 04:52 PM (2WoCi)

568 537
All purpose cleaner. Clean your throttle body with it.

True, that's a use for it. What else?




Clean a bong?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 04:52 PM (dSqvH)

569 You need to clean a firearm?

That's what brake cleaner is for.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:52 PM (QQ+il)

570 Posted by: Janice from Joplin MO at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (EfUM6)
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Hey I been to Joplin.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:52 PM (bpfzP)

571 That's how you build resilience.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at January 04, 2017 04:48 PM (mgbwf)

----

My dad called that "character building". I'm 5'0. My character is YUUUGE.

Posted by: Occam's Epilady at January 04, 2017 04:52 PM (prEBe)

572 Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:48 PM (ZM2xo)
Quail is good but you have to watch out for the bb's.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:53 PM (IgBFP)

573 How many people do you know that own Subaru's?

Are any of them straight?


Posted by: NY Slime brain dead editors at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (aTg6G)



Wife and I also own a subaru - and we hump like bunnies.


Posted by: flounder
****

Each other?

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at January 04, 2017 04:53 PM (+aCe4)

574 All my lefty friends and relatives know that I own a pickup, or at least remember it whenever they want something transported, towed, pulled out of a ditch or snowbank....

Posted by: notropis at January 04, 2017 04:53 PM (ajl2k)

575 Oh it's definitely something. I'm getting a code for running too lean but don't know why it's running lean.
Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:48 PM (4Ejxg)

Most likely cause is a vacuum leak. Check your hoses that attach to the intake manifold and see if any are cracked or even broken.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at January 04, 2017 04:53 PM (R5EqA)

576 Traded in the sports car for a truck and I now wonder why I didn't bypass the sports car and go straight to truck.

Posted by: Blake at January 04, 2017 04:53 PM (qC1Sy)

577 My car door was frozen shut this morning. I ran back in and tried to find the de-icer stuff. I couldn't - so I tried WD40 out of desperation. A half a can and a lot of pulling did it.

It was 11 degrees here this morning.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:54 PM (ZM2xo)

578
My check engine light came on. The dealership said it was the catalytic converter. Someone else said oxygen sensor. Had the sensor replaced ($700). Light came back on. The people who fixed it said the catalytic converter ($1500 to fix). I said to hell with it. That was two years ago.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 04, 2017 04:54 PM (J8/9G)

579 Well hurumph!, no one I know owns a truck...

Posted by: Pauline Kael at January 04, 2017 04:54 PM (XRxxn)

580 I use brake cleaner for cleaning my guns, but I bet carb cleaner works, too.
Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 04, 2017 04:51 PM (5kqPn)

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Make damn sure its non chlorinated break cleaner if your cleaning guns with it.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 04:54 PM (JmjOe)

581
See, that's the thing. It can be caused by any of several sensors. Codes are useless in this respect. the Code is only telling A Problem not necessarily The Problem.

There's also the fact that the computer is telling sensors to compensate for The Problem and that causes other issues and gives you a headache tracing and eliminating all the False Problems due to sensors acting stupidly.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:54 PM (4Ejxg)

582 I think Mazda gave up the roter engine a few years ago.

Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2017 04:54 PM (5sOEp)

583
Today I bought a can of Carb Cleaner. But my car's engine doesnt have a carburetor. Why did I buy the can of carb cleaner?"


Works great for cleaning disc brakes

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 04, 2017 04:54 PM (lKyWE)

584 Re: vacuum leak

If you haven't removed anything that looks like an accordian and checked between the ridges, do.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 04, 2017 04:54 PM (5kqPn)

585 Today I bought a can of Carb Cleaner. But my car's engine doesnt have a carburetor. Why did I buy the can of carb cleaner?

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (4Ejxg)

Huffing

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 04, 2017 04:55 PM (P/kVC)

586 Make damn sure its non chlorinated break cleaner if your cleaning guns with it.

That's what people say but I use the chloro and haven't had any issues.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:55 PM (QQ+il)

587 Ask these journolistas how many of them own or know someone who owns a My Shiney Hiney. I'll bet that's something of which they greatly exceed the general population in ownership rates.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 04, 2017 04:55 PM (DW+jj)

588 I've got a fever.

Posted by: Erf at January 04, 2017 04:55 PM (Rc1wj)

589 Quail is good but you have to watch out for the bb's.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:53 PM (IgBFP)

I'm sure the Kerrys only eat organic, farm-raised, humanely treated quail.

I saw the wanker pretending to go duck hunting. He didn't kill anything.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:56 PM (ZM2xo)

590
Most likely cause is a vacuum leak. Check your hoses that attach to the intake manifold and see if any are cracked or even broken.


Ding! Ding! Ding!
And that's why I brought the carb cleaner!

I couldn't find any vacuum leaks.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:56 PM (4Ejxg)

591 Chic-fil-a is the number one fast food franchise is the US. . .

Never tried Chic-fil-a until the boycott.

Damn ... they really are good.

Posted by: SD at January 04, 2017 04:56 PM (07YWD)

592 "Today I bought a can of Carb Cleaner. But my car's engine doesnt have a carburetor. Why did I buy the can of carb cleaner? "

You asking us....or are you trying to remember why?


Yeh...i've had days like that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2017 04:56 PM (J+eG2)

593 "Today I bought a can of Carb Cleaner. But my car's engine doesnt have a carburetor. Why did I buy the can of carb cleaner?"

--

There's a hot chick at the store you wanted to see and you needed an excuse.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 04, 2017 04:56 PM (Om16U)

594 577 My car door was frozen shut this morning. I ran back in and tried to find the de-icer stuff. I couldn't - so I tried WD40 out of desperation. A half a can and a lot of pulling did it.

It was 11 degrees here this morning.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:54 PM (ZM2xo)

Reminds me of my best friend in HS. He washed his car in January (in the garage), but he had to park it outside (garage was for his parents cars). He was late picking me up, and when he arrived, there was a pot lid on the top of his car. Turned out that he REALLY froze his door shut, so he tried to heat (boil?) some water in a pot, took it outside and poured it onto his door to melt the ice - and forgot the pot lid on top of his car.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:56 PM (8hICw)

595
Google up what chlorinated cleaners do steel. Dont use chlorinated on guns.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 04:57 PM (JmjOe)

596 577 My car door was frozen shut this morning. I ran back in and tried to find the de-icer stuff. I couldn't - so I tried WD40 out of desperation. A half a can and a lot of pulling did it.

It was 11 degrees here this morning.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:54 PM (ZM2xo)

Be careful with your door seals or anything else rubber.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:57 PM (92kX2)

597 Laughable.

Mr.Jen and I have owned pick up trucks most of our adult lives, along with assorted 'cars" . We also know lots of other people who own pick up trucks, SUV's, sedans, Mercedes, Porsche's, Corvettes, etc.

Those vehicles have been owned by dedicated farmers, never leave the suburbs surburbanites and a few city dwellers.

This question goes right along with the bizarre six person panel I saw on Fox or CNN right after the election. The members of the panel were trying to cope with Trump winning and most memorable was the first skinny old dude who was having a bright idea moment that he should start actively seeking out Republicans to put on his Facebook page, as he lived in Delaware and only knew three Republicans...on facebook. He was an activist for the LGBTQ community, LOL.

Posted by: Jen at January 04, 2017 04:57 PM (a2Sj8)

598 Twitter is a sewer

Posted by: Rush at January 04, 2017 04:57 PM (Rc1wj)

599 Today I bought a can of Carb Cleaner. But my car's engine doesnt have a carburetor. Why did I buy the can of carb cleaner?
Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (4Ejxg)


You plan on burning spiders like the rest of us.


Heh? Ha! Hahahahah!

*FWoooooooSH! FWOOOooooooooooooooSSH!*

MUAHAHAHHAHAA!

Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2017 04:57 PM (9MInk)

600 588 I've got a fever.
Posted by: Erf at January 04, 2017 04:55 PM (Rc1wj)

Cow bell?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 04:57 PM (8hICw)

601 Speaking of codes and trucks, my old F150 started running very rich and poorly once. It turned out to be a temperature sensor that need replacement. The odd thing was, if you just disconnected the sensor, the truck ran almost normally. So the Limp Mode for no reading was much better than the Limp Mode for out-of-range.


I hate computers.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:57 PM (QQ+il)

602 Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:50 PM (92kX2)
My uncle had a corvette he bought senior year. I think a 57 black with red interior if I remember correctly. He kept it covered in his shop. Had 25,000 original miles. He sold it a few years ago to some guy on Santa Claus lane in Carpinteria. I would have bought that car. The manual was in the glove compartment in perfect condition.
He used to race it in the 50's./60's.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:58 PM (IgBFP)

603 Quail is good but you have to watch out for the bb's.


Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:53 PM (IgBFP)


Or buy it because you are too shitty a shot to hit the little bastards.

Or so a friend told me.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 04, 2017 04:58 PM (rF0hx)

604 Another reason progs freaked out is because this is the 'brand judgement game' they play with everybody else. They are exquisitely sensitive to calculating what your trappings say about you as a human being.

Your chicken sandwich makes you a homophobe, for example.

Posted by: lauraw at January 04, 2017 04:58 PM (K/zYU)

605
Carb Cleaner is Flammable.

So spraying carb cleaner onto vacuum lines and fittings will make the idle race up if there's a leak because it will suck the carb cleaner into the intake and shoot it down to the spark plugs.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:58 PM (4Ejxg)

606 "That campaign was so great. Remember when they went to a Wendy's with Ben Affleck and Theresa didn't know what chili was?"

And Teh-RAH-sa telling an auditorium full of blacks that she, a wealthy white woman who happened to have been born in colonial Mozambique, was "an African-American" just like them.

One shared thought bubble from the audience: "Da fuck?"

Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 04:58 PM (noWW6)

607 Today I bought a can of Carb Cleaner. But my car's engine doesnt have a carburetor. Why did I buy the can of carb cleaner?
Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 04:45 PM (4Ejxg)
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Personal stimulus package?

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 04, 2017 04:59 PM (xeeHA)

608 My uncle had a corvette he bought senior year. I think a 57 black with red interior if I remember correctly. He kept it covered in his shop. Had 25,000 original miles. He sold it a few years ago to some guy on Santa Claus lane in Carpinteria. I would have bought that car. The manual was in the glove compartment in perfect condition.
He used to race it in the 50's./60's.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 04:58 PM (IgBFP)

Aww, nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:59 PM (92kX2)

609 573
How many people do you know that own Subaru's?



Are any of them straight?





Posted by: NY Slime brain dead editors at January 04, 2017 04:32 PM (aTg6G)







Wife and I also own a subaru - and we hump like bunnies.





Posted by: flounder

****



Each other?

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at January 04, 2017 04:53 PM (+aCe4)


Sometimes on. Sometimes in . . . .

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 04, 2017 04:59 PM (GX63o)

610 I put astro turf in the bed of my pick up. When the misses asked why, I told her it was for midnight three hole golf. She never got that! haw haw haw

Posted by: Bill Clinton at January 04, 2017 04:59 PM (Rc1wj)

611 Google up what chlorinated cleaners do steel. Dont use chlorinated on guns.


And yet, never a problem. Perhaps it is only really bad for stainless.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 04:59 PM (QQ+il)

612 Cubs Spring Training tickets go on sale starting this Saturday at 11 am.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 04:59 PM (bpfzP)

613 I tried WD40 out of desperation. A half a can and a lot of pulling did it.
That's what she said!

Posted by: michael scott at January 04, 2017 04:59 PM (lJXY3)

614
It turned out to be a temperature sensor that need replacement.

In rare cases a stuck thermostat will screw with the rich/lean mixture too (as far as the dumb computer is concerned) because it doesn't sense the truck is at normal operating temp and many sensors won't function properly.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 05:00 PM (4Ejxg)

615 Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:57 PM (92kX2)

My son's gas cap door on a volvo was frozen shut last bad cold spell. He was running out of gas and in heavy traffic. He finally pulled off, pulled around back of a building and peed on it. Opened right up.

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2017 05:00 PM (pH7uT)

616 I'll have to check for chlorine, thanks. I doubt I would get it on purpose knowing how rough that stuff is, but if it's not on the front I wouldn't see it. Haven't seen any problems on anything yet, but it might be a good excuse to get something new.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 04, 2017 05:00 PM (5kqPn)

617 Your chicken sandwich makes you a homophobe, for example.
Posted by: lauraw at January 04, 2017 04:58 PM (K/zYU)

I think about this every time I go into the absolutely packed Chic-Fil-A's here in Lexington. Seriously, I have never seen one of them here that did not have a drive thru line stretching around the building.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:00 PM (92kX2)

618
Can you use a chlorinated solvent on a My Shiney Hiney?

Asking for myself.

Posted by: Shep Smith at January 04, 2017 05:01 PM (DW+jj)

619 I have to say - I had a really good chuckle about that NYT article on "truck owners" and why they were stoopid, stoopid, stoopid because they didn't really need them or use them and they were all "knuckle dragging flyover rubes" to boot. The author, safari style;e, goes to Texas (gasp - horror - a red state!) and has interaction with tow people to prove his point - the first is some editor at the Houston Chronicle, the other is some Executive type in or around Austin. Yep - That's typical, blue collar Texas all-right! Mmm hmm. What an absolute goober that NYT idiot is.

Anyway - this reaction to the simple question does not surprise me to the slightest - why do working class people in the hinterlands own trucks? Lots of reasons: hauling, hunting, camping, fishing, tailgating, livestock, off-roading, construction etc. Or maybe they own them because they like them and this is a free f*cking country so they f*cking can - hmm? How about that, blue state sh*t-for-brains? Oh - and btw - Houston and Austin are in Texas (and are great cities ) but that is NOT where you go to talk to typical Texans.

Now perhaps someone in NYC or LA can explain to me why they need a f*cking Humvee - which I seem to spot quite often and usually only in certain neighborhoods. Hmmm? Why no articles on that?

Et MSM delenda est

In a related story - I was in New Orleans a few months back (around the flooding at Baton Rouge days) and I called a Uber - the guy who picked me up was a clean cut African-American guy - active military - and he drove up to my hotel in a brand spanking new Ford F-150. Red. I felt like a kid in a candy store. I immediately hopped in the front and had an amazing drive ( and a great time meeting a truly great, and gracious American) and , yeah - he was one of those rube truck owners, yesiree

Posted by: Publius Redux at January 04, 2017 05:01 PM (Fb9aZ)

620 Bad thing about Quails is they get sucked into spelling potato wrong

Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2017 05:01 PM (5sOEp)

621 I can spway cwab cweener on ma Junk?

Posted by: Bwarny Fwank at January 04, 2017 05:01 PM (Rc1wj)

622 Be careful with your door seals or anything else rubber.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 04:57 PM (92kX2)

Crap! Do I have to wash it off now or else it will eat away the rubber?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 05:02 PM (ZM2xo)

623 @546, I drive a Jetta right now! I really love it -- the thing is a workhorse. I have 160,000 miles on it, and aside from regular maintenance, have had zero problems with it. The gas mileage is just okay for in-town (I think I get, like, 27mpg, and there are cars that do a lot more), but it runs just smooth and reliable. My stepson is turning 12 in two weeks; I've already told him that he can have this for this first car if he covers gas and insurance himself. He immediately told me to keep it washed and make sure it was serviced, so it'd be in good shape when he got it.

I'm in Dallas, so this comes up rarely, but I have driven it in ice and snow, and it handles really well, overall. I drove an F150 in college that my dad gave me ... grateful for the gift, but that truck couldn't handle a fine mist without skidding. And it was a lemon.

Posted by: sunny-dee at January 04, 2017 05:02 PM (QAOZh)

624
Had the sensor replaced ($700). Light came back on. The people who fixed it said the catalytic converter ($1500 to fix).

I hate hearing this.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 05:02 PM (4Ejxg)

625 I think we have a case of human error, Sooth. I'm sorry but I cannot pop the hood for you.

Posted by: soothsayer's onboard car system, PAL 9000 at January 04, 2017 05:03 PM (lJXY3)

626 WD-40 is something I use as a water repellant on Christmas light connections. I've used PB Blaster for nuts and bolts that seem to be fused together with rust.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 05:03 PM (6gk0M)

627 Today I bought a can of Carb Cleaner. But my car's engine doesnt have a carburetor. Why did I buy the can of carb cleaner?



Pourable liquid or spray? Pourable, pour into gas tank to help clean injectors.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 05:03 PM (dSqvH)

628 We currently have a Pacifica, an Explorer, an old Volvo 240, and a Jeep Wrangler. Thermostat went on the Pacifica and the Explorer so far. The cadillac converter is bad on the Pacifica but I'm enjoying the gas mileage until it has to pass emmissions.

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2017 05:04 PM (pH7uT)

629 @619, Austin has its charm, but Houston is an absolute hole. Other than that, your point stands.

Posted by: sunny-dee at January 04, 2017 05:04 PM (QAOZh)

630 Crap! Do I have to wash it off now or else it will eat away the rubber?
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 05:02 PM (ZM2xo)

I'd maybe lube them down with some Vaseline or something. Should also keep em from freezing shut as easy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:04 PM (92kX2)

631 You could try using it for floor wax.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 05:05 PM (HgMAr)

632 Everyone should own an O2 sensor socket for their wrench.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 05:05 PM (QQ+il)

633 My brother has a truck. (Ford) He likes it a lot.

Posted by: Jack at January 04, 2017 05:05 PM (YX9fV)

634 I'll have to check for chlorine, thanks. I doubt I would get it on purpose knowing how rough that stuff is, but if it's not on the front I wouldn't see it. Haven't seen any problems on anything yet, but it might be a good excuse to get something new.

------

Non chlorinated usually comes in the green can an chlorinated cleaner is red.

As hard as it is on steel,. Im not even sure whyvthey make a chlorinated vrrsion of brake cleaner.

I wont even use it on brakes.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 05:05 PM (JmjOe)

635
Speaking of hoods..

my pneumatic hood lifts are worn out and never stay up especially in the cold.

So it falls down on my head like the cartoons. It's hilarious.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 05:05 PM (4Ejxg)

636 My son's gas cap door on a volvo was frozen shut last bad cold spell. He was running out of gas and in heavy traffic. He finally pulled off, pulled around back of a building and peed on it. Opened right up.


Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2017 05:00 PM (pH7uT)

One of the great disadvantages of being female is that I can not use this method in case my car door freezes on me again.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 05:05 PM (ZM2xo)

637 Volvo 240? I always thought it would be fun to bracket race one of those.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 04, 2017 05:05 PM (5kqPn)

638 OH, my God! They realize their lack of knowing anyone who has a truck condemns them.

Posted by: Jack at January 04, 2017 05:06 PM (YX9fV)

639 >>the cadillac converter is bad on the Pacifica

You have a Pacifica that converts into a Cadillac?

You must be Batman.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 05:06 PM (/tuJf)

640 Had the sensor replaced ($700). Light came back on. The people who fixed it said the catalytic converter ($1500 to fix).


I hate hearing this.Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 05:02 PM (4Ejxg)
Try a new gas cap first. But enjoy the bad catalytic converter gone until it needs to pass emissions. You'll get about 100 more miles per tank until then. Mine broke right after an inspection so I'm making gas money for 2 years before I fix it.

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2017 05:07 PM (pH7uT)

641
Crap! Do I have to wash it off now or else it will eat away the rubber?
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 05:02 PM


In the words of a famous crook who will never be president,just wipe it with a cloth

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 04, 2017 05:07 PM (lKyWE)

642
PB blaster is the shits for penetrating oil.

Kroil Oil is even better.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 05:07 PM (JmjOe)

643 Man, when I get home, I don't know whether I'll have dinner or a nap first.

Funny thing, having the option.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at January 04, 2017 05:07 PM (9krrF)

644 630
Crap! Do I have to wash it off now or else it will eat away the rubber?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 05:02 PM (ZM2xo)



I'd maybe lube them down with some Vaseline or something. Should also keep em from freezing shut as easy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:04 PM (92kX2)


It also works on your johnson rod.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 04, 2017 05:07 PM (GX63o)

645 I know I spelled cadalytic converter wront the first time====girl

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2017 05:08 PM (pH7uT)

646 Crap! Do I have to wash it off now or else it will eat away the rubber?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 05:02 PM (ZM2xo)
Never use Andromeda around rubber

Posted by: MAC-SOG at January 04, 2017 05:08 PM (QPdNE)

647 I just wonder if the right was ever as intolerant as the left. Seriously, they are so filled with shaking, unquenchable hatred toward anyone who doesn't fit a very narrow set of demands, its hard to believe. Just 10 years ago, "tolerance" was their watchword. I mean, they never really were honest about it, but they don't even pretend any longer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 04:11 PM (39g3+)

I'm getting there re: the Prog scum.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 04, 2017 05:08 PM (KUaxm)

648 "One of the great disadvantages of being female is that I can not use this method in case my car door freezes on me again"
-Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 05:05 PM (ZM2xo)

Having an exterior hose has its advantages, as it were.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 05:08 PM (6gk0M)

649 Cubs Spring Training tickets go on sale starting this Saturday at 11 am.

88 days til Opening Day!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 05:08 PM (39g3+)

650 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHGgv6p7uVI

OK... this is F'n hilarious...

Real Housewives of ISIS....

Posted by: Don Q. at January 04, 2017 05:09 PM (qf6WZ)

651 Funny thing, having the option.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at January 04, 2017 05:07 PM (9krrF)
======================

I imagine your personal life is going thru a lot of adjustments. How are you doing?

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 05:09 PM (bpfzP)

652 Drudge's first headline of The Era of The Donald?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 04, 2017 05:09 PM (Pby3z)

653 And let me say I really like living in a place without emissions testing. Funny how they require brand new cars to test but exempt the old polluting models made before X year, isn't it?

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 04, 2017 05:09 PM (5kqPn)

654 I know I spelled cadalytic converter wront the first time====girl
Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2017 05:08 PM (pH7uT)

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Wrong the second time too. :Grin:

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 05:09 PM (JmjOe)

655 That reminds me: I still need to clean the deer blood out of the bed of my truck.

Posted by: Country Singer (Gab @Bert G) at January 04, 2017 05:09 PM (GUBah)

656 88 days til Opening Day!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 05:08 PM (39g3+)
================

88 seems so long. Maybe Trump will make the time fly.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 05:10 PM (bpfzP)

657 >>I know I spelled cadalytic converter wront the first time====girl

What's the reason for spelling it wrong the second time.

You can't hit me from there.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 05:10 PM (/tuJf)

658
In my car I have:
-- tools
-- jumper pack/compressor (this is a must for everyone)
-- a fuel siphoning hose

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 05:10 PM (4Ejxg)

659 "88 days til Opening Day"
-Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 05:08 PM (39g3+)

Oh, Hell Yeah!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 05:10 PM (6gk0M)

660 Speaking of trucks, here is a genius moving lambs in the back of a little Toyota on the 101. He was flying 75 miles an hour with what looked like baling wire to keep the lambs in the back.

http://tinypic.com/r/mvrjhh/9

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 04, 2017 05:10 PM (IgBFP)

661 My car is annoying me at the moment. The SEL (service engine light) is on and I can't yet figure out what the hell.



Computers (ECM's) are the worst thing.

Posted by: Soothsayer



Take your car to auto zone. They will check it for free.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at January 04, 2017 05:10 PM (FIrEF)

662 Do not pee on me and tell me that it is raining. I'm your PAL.

Posted by: soothsayer's onboard car system, PAL 9000 at January 04, 2017 05:11 PM (lJXY3)

663 OT, but Drudge is speculating that each Obama will get advances of $20 million for individual memoirs. Bill Clinton got $10 million and GWB got $7 mill, so Michelle and TFG are each lining up for nearly 3x GWB and 2x WJC.

The weird part is that if they get the $40 (a long shot, I'd say) they keep about $20-22 mill after taxes, agent fees and ghostwriter costs. That presumably is how they intend to pay for the new houses in Hawaii, Cali and the rentals in DC and NYC (if that last one is true), plus decorating costs. In other words, much of the money they are scheduled to make could go towards real estate.

These people will be writing books for years, the way they spend.

Posted by: MTF at January 04, 2017 05:12 PM (sAXJ5)

664 The word police live inside of my head
The word police come to me in my bed
The word policd are coming to arrest me
The word police, police, police

Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2017 05:12 PM (5sOEp)

665 Heck, I know people who own pick ups just because they can. Some of them are pretty damn fancy and I'm sure the heaviest load they've carried is a couple of grocery bags.

Posted by: Tuna at January 04, 2017 05:12 PM (JSovD)

666 Also Andromeda, unlike many Progs, loves nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 05:12 PM (idrE1)

667 Take your car to auto zone. They will check it for free.

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Not anymore they wont.

Turned Mrs Fixer away just the other day.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 05:13 PM (JmjOe)

668 666 Also Andromeda, unlike many Progs, loves nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 05:12 PM (idrE1)

Is that a Kevin Sorbo reference?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:13 PM (92kX2)

669 My pneumatic hood lifts are worn out and never stay up especially in the cold.


So it falls down on my head like the cartoons. It's hilarious.

April Fool, Sooth. That was me.

And now I would like to sing a song for you gentlemen.

Daisy, Daisy... Diasee... Dai... what are you doing, sooth? Da...

Posted by: soothsayer's onboard car system, PAL 9000 at January 04, 2017 05:13 PM (lJXY3)

670 #617

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:00 PM (92kX2)

The same is true here in ultra-lib (and presumably non-homophobic) L.A.

Posted by: notropis at January 04, 2017 05:14 PM (ajl2k)

671 "One of the great disadvantages of being female is that I can not use this method in case my car door freezes on me again"
-Posted by: Donna and V




"Psssst! Hey buddy! Yeah, you! I'll pay you $20 bucks to piss on my car door"

Posted by: rickb223 at January 04, 2017 05:14 PM (dSqvH)

672
When I was a teenager sometime, around 1980, my father got several cases of this "stuff". One, which we called the "red stuff" was a lubricant in a spray can with red lettering, hence "red stuff".

The other was a penetrating oil, which we called "green stuff", the cans having green lettering.

That green stuff was just about the best penetrating oil we'd ever used, seemed like. Once we used it up, we never saw its like again. I can't remember what the name was. My father got it from somebody he'd ran into who said he had some of the best penetrating oil he'd ever had, and sold a few cases to him.

He wasn't exaggerating, and I wish I knew what it was. Hell, since it was so good, the EPA probably banned it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 04, 2017 05:14 PM (DW+jj)

673 I'm getting there re: the Prog scum.

I, no shit, am having a problem with this.

I'm just getting damn mean as I get older. This is not one of those "not really a complaint" kind of statements. Not a humble brag.

My tolerance is about gone. Wife's about had it. Youngest kid is twelve.

The way I see the world ... which I'm pretty sure is clear and correct ... does not seem to square with most people around me.

Posted by: SD at January 04, 2017 05:14 PM (07YWD)

674 I imagine your personal life is going thru a lot of adjustments. How are you doing?

Posted by: grammie winger


Adapting. Still working out the living quarters issue, much is in limbo because of that. A funny thing though, I think I'm dealing better than I did with mom, partly because all of Dad's friends have become, well, my friends over the last few years. That's a network I lacked before and you can't really underestimate the difference that support makes.

It's still odd not having family around anymore. Liberating and lonely all at once.

Still eating leftovers. They don't kid when they say how much food folks give you!

Mostly I just want a long vacation somewhere quiet. Like, I don't know, six years or so. The caretaker thing takes it out of you, especially near the end, even when you don't realize it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at January 04, 2017 05:14 PM (9krrF)

675 If you didn't know me as a Baseball Fan before I did the World Series play-by-play, you know it now.

I root for the Indians, but I love baseball.

...and there is no team that I would rather lose to than the Cubbies.

...Not "I", personally. I can't throw over sixty MPH and I can't hit a curveball.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 05:15 PM (6gk0M)

676 These people will be writing books for years, the way they spend.
Posted by: MTF at January 04, 2017 05:12 PM (sAXJ5)

Eventually the stockholders of the publishing companies will stop the blatant Charity...

Because no way Obama's Wookie's book makes back 20 Million...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 04, 2017 05:15 PM (qf6WZ)

677 OK... this is F'n hilarious...

Real Housewives of ISIS....

Posted by: Don Q. at January 04, 2017 05:09 PM (qf6WZ)
........

Ali bought me a new chain... which is eight foot long.
So I can almost get outside... which is great.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 05:15 PM (HgMAr)

678 Mine has a lift gate.
And thats all I have to say about that.

Posted by: rusty shacklefjord at January 04, 2017 05:15 PM (v8mM1)

679 669 My pneumatic hood lifts are worn out and never stay up especially in the cold.


So it falls down on my head like the cartoons. It's hilarious.
April Fool, Sooth. That was me.

And now I would like to sing a song for you gentlemen.

Daisy, Daisy... Diasee... Dai... what are you doing, sooth? Da...
Posted by: soothsayer's onboard car system, PAL 9000 at January 04, 2017 05:13 PM (lJXY3)

Now those you probably *can* get at Autozone, or NAPA, or Pep Boys, or Advance, or Shucks, or whatever.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at January 04, 2017 05:16 PM (R5EqA)

680 "Psssst! Hey buddy! Yeah, you! I'll pay you $20 bucks to piss on my car door"


It's $40, same as in town.

Posted by: Buddy at January 04, 2017 05:16 PM (QQ+il)

681 >>Crap! Do I have to wash it off now or else it will eat away the rubber?

Sho nuff do.

Posted by: Baby Daddy at January 04, 2017 05:16 PM (/Nite)

682 The same is true here in ultra-lib (and presumably non-homophobic) L.A.
Posted by: notropis at January 04, 2017 05:14 PM (ajl2k)

It is good to see. They are a good company that seems to do a lot of charity (hurricanes and their extraordinarily tasty Christmas chocolate cookies.) I'd say the proportion of true homophobes here is the same as in LA- almost everyone could give a shit less.

Got to love progs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:17 PM (92kX2)

683
I think I am going to go with the sensor hammer next time and see if that will do it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2017 05:17 PM (ODxAs)

684 I don't own a pickup right now. My Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 self immolated back in 2010. Wiring bundle caught fire. By the time it was done, it looked like the last words anyone spoke in it were "Allahu Akbar!"

Funny part... funny odd not funny haha. .. was my son got hit by a drunk driver the next day. Same guys who put out the truck fire were the ones who responded.

Anyway, I drive an old CRV because I like not having a car payment. But I'm gonna give that Jeep pickup that comes out next year a serious look.

Posted by: V the K at January 04, 2017 05:17 PM (8fMq8)

685 Speaking of trucks, there's a big one parked in front of the White House.

I've been waiting to see this sight for 8 years
http://tinyurl.com/h3ythme

Posted by: weew at January 04, 2017 05:18 PM (6EH85)

686 683
I think I am going to go with the sensor hammer next time and see if that will do it.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2017 05:17 PM (ODxAs)

Percussive Maintenance is underrated.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at January 04, 2017 05:18 PM (R5EqA)

687 I owned a light pickup once. Thing was a beater for sure, but that's all I needed.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 04, 2017 05:18 PM (0mRoj)

688 672,
there's a youtube video that says acetone and synthetic auto trans fluid is best penetrating oil. any lubricating issues I go to bobistheoilguy.com, pretty good site.

Posted by: rusty shacklefjord at January 04, 2017 05:18 PM (pHVJG)

689
Is there any doubt hillary clinton wouldve been awarded this year's Peace Prize if she won?

I'll make a bold prediction: Either obama (again), john kerry, or hillary clinton will win the peace prize this year.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 05:19 PM (4Ejxg)

690 Aetius451AD, uh no...

Michael Crichton - The Andromeda Strain. Project Wildfire. At one point the alien Andromeda bug while airborne starts to eat parts of a USAF recon jet that are made of a certain type of rubber. The Wildfire lab had seals made of the same stuff. The Wildfire team also discovered if the secret lab's nuclear suicide charge went off, it would make Andromeda far more deadly.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 05:19 PM (idrE1)

691
Try a new gas cap first. But enjoy the bad catalytic converter gone until it needs to pass emissions. You'll get about 100 more miles per tank until then. Mine broke right after an inspection so I'm making gas money for 2 years before I fix it.

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2017 05:07 PM (pH7uT)


The comical thing is that my gas mileage hasn't changed a bit and when the light went out for a few days in September I took it in for inspection and it passed. Which makes me think it has nothing to do with the converter.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 04, 2017 05:19 PM (J8/9G)

692 I have written often Leftists know how to take care of their own. Obama's will get that kind of cash but like Hillary the publisher will never make it back. But thats how they funnel cash to eachother. Besides no way doing nothing his entire life he's writting anything. Somebody else will do it in his name.

Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2017 05:19 PM (5sOEp)

693 don't know why people have such trouble with the three words that are the beginning of all wisdom:

I.

Don't.

Know.

I have a low IDK limit before I start to get pissed off, esp. if it's questions I don't want to answer.
What I really don't know now is what the new bad noise the S10 (used to be the small size pickup) means and whether it's gonna crap out soon.

Posted by: DaveA at January 04, 2017 05:19 PM (8J/Te)

694 Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 05:05 PM (JmjOe)
My sense is that TCE (chlorinated) brake cleaner works very, very well at cleaning material out of linings, and because it evaporates so fast and is non-flammable, it can be very quick and effective. I prefer it for brake use. It's also not as immediately harmful to rubbers and plastics as xylene brake cleaners are, and anything that I'd use that for I can just use carb cleaner.

Very useful to have the TCE stuff if you're rebuilding brake components - calipers, cylinders, etc. Less so the xylene stuff, and even on things like rotors tends more to lift oils/etc. and less to smear.

Posted by: Sporkatus at January 04, 2017 05:19 PM (eXSOZ)

695 685 Speaking of trucks, there's a big one parked in front of the White House.

I've been waiting to see this sight for 8 years
http://tinyurl.com/h3ythme
Posted by: weew at January 04, 2017 05:18 PM (6EH85)

That sir, is a beautiful sight.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:19 PM (92kX2)

696 Take your car to auto zone. They will check it for free.



--------

Not anymore they wont.



Turned Mrs Fixer away just the other day.
Just had my F150 checked in October.
Advance auto would not check it but Auto Zone did. 1bad coil

Posted by: Cicero Skip at January 04, 2017 05:20 PM (FIrEF)

697 Sarah Palin has apologized to Assange for condemning him for his leak publishing.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 04, 2017 05:20 PM (DW+jj)

698 I think it's a bunch of funny money with these giant book advances to leftist icons. Who knows wher ethat money really comes from.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 04, 2017 05:20 PM (Om16U)

699 Mostly I just want a long vacation somewhere quiet.
Like, I don't know, six years or so. The caretaker thing takes it out
of you, especially near the end, even when you don't realize it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at January 04, 2017 05:14 PM (9krrF)
=============================

You were wondering before if you should have dinner first, or a nap. Maybe the nap.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 05:20 PM (bpfzP)

700 685 Speaking of trucks, there's a big one parked in front of the White House.

I've been waiting to see this sight for 8 years
http://tinyurl.com/h3ythme
Posted by: weew at January 04, 2017 05:18 PM (6EH85)

That was surprisingly easy to fap to.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 04, 2017 05:21 PM (0mRoj)

701
These people will be writing books for years, the way they spend. Posted by: MTF at January 04, 2017 05:12 PM (sAXJ5)

Plus he'll be hitting the lucrative climate change circuit

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 04, 2017 05:21 PM (lKyWE)

702 Posted by: Sponge at January 04, 2017 04:46 PM (xttKDrudge has been Up/Down all day

Posted by: Evilpens at January 04, 2017 05:21 PM (y3aQB)

703
we used to dream of lighting our hair on fire...

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 04, 2017 05:21 PM (toH8T)

704 Sarah Palin has apologized to Assange for condemning him for his leak publishing.

See, that's just dumb. His leaks were beneficial to the USA this time, but next time who knows what he'll dump out there? The guy isn't our friend. He's like the dragon that crapped on your garden so it grows 2 foot tomatoes the next year.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 05:21 PM (39g3+)

705 690 Aetius451AD, uh no...

Michael Crichton - The Andromeda Strain. Project Wildfire. At one point the alien Andromeda bug while airborne starts to eat parts of a USAF recon jet that are made of a certain type of rubber. The Wildfire lab had seals made of the same stuff. The Wildfire team also discovered if the secret lab's nuclear suicide charge went off, it would make Andromeda far more deadly.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 05:19 PM (idrE1)

I have to read that at some point.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:21 PM (92kX2)

706 I've been waiting to see this sight for 8 years

http://tinyurl.com/h3ythme

Posted by: weew at January 04, 2017 05:18 PM (6EH85)



That sir, is a beautiful sight.



Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:19 PM (92kX2)
=====================

Oh wow! It's really happening, for real!

Posted by: grammie winger at January 04, 2017 05:22 PM (bpfzP)

707 What's the ratio of pickup owners to gay people?
10:1?
A better question is not just how many pickup owners do you know, but "do you know ten times as many pickup owners as you do gay people?"

Posted by: wooga at January 04, 2017 05:22 PM (naT8w)

708 Ask me about guns...

I Don't Know.

Three beautiful words that exemplify humility.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 05:22 PM (6gk0M)

709 Posted by: rusty shacklefjord at January 04, 2017 05:18 PM (pHVJG)
While acetone + ATF is in fact the bee's knees, it's not "clingy" and it doesn't stay 100% in suspension. The same lack of surface tension that's an asset means it doesn't stay anywhere you put it. So for anything that has to soak on the bench, it's great. Anything that has to soak in place, much harder to keep it there, and harder to come up with a good way to spray it. Hence Kroil or CRC or PB.

Posted by: Sporkatus at January 04, 2017 05:23 PM (eXSOZ)

710 29 Personally, I don't get buying a very expensive pick up truck if you're not going to be hauling stuff, for work or fun, in it. Girl who lives upstairs from me is about 5'1" & drives a double-cab Ram. But to each their own.
Posted by: josephistan at January 04, 2017 03:54 PM (7HtZB)


Section 179 Deduction (Hummer loophole) up until last year, it was highly advantageous to buy a truck with a GVW over 6000 lbs if you had 1099 / small business income... hence why the Ford Ranger was allowed to die, and the Chevy/Toyota small pickup market share are way off 20 years ago

Posted by: phreshone at January 04, 2017 05:23 PM (DpOmP)

711 Pneumatic hood supports (struts?) DEFINITELY get from Amazon. Find out the number from auto zone and order from Amazon. Even with one of the coupons auto zone constantly sends out they'll be $40 more for the set.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 04, 2017 05:23 PM (0BApD)

712
Who knows wher ethat money really comes from.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at January 04, 2017 05:20 PM (Om16U)


No one tighter with their own money than a prog. Keep seeing surveys showing that liberals give much less to charity than conservatives.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at January 04, 2017 05:23 PM (J8/9G)

713

couldn't afford fire...or hair...

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 04, 2017 05:23 PM (toH8T)

714 Yes, yes, journalists are awful.

But the original tweet here was pretty silly. Cars (7.1 million last year) and Crossovers/SUVs (6.7 million) massively outsell pickups (2.6 million). The only reason "the three top-selling models" are pickups is because there are a lot fewer models of pickup.

Meh.

/relurk

Posted by: Concerned Republican Voter at January 04, 2017 05:23 PM (4bKiB)

715
Learned to drive on a stick--got good enough (and can yet) to shift without using any clutch--even from startup.

My ride is a 29 year old SUV that does everything I need and the body is pristine still. It has all the bells and whistles--air, cruise, power windows and seats, tilt wheel plus a healthy engine--best part is it's not a common vehicle so it stands out.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 04, 2017 05:23 PM (X35Yt)

716 707

I know a gay truck owner. Does that count double or do they cancel each other out?

Posted by: weew at January 04, 2017 05:24 PM (6EH85)

717
Oh yeah, my old beater truck, never should have got rid of it. Just a little 4 cylinder Ford, looked like crap, but never ever gave me any big expense and yet when I got older and richer I traded up so I could take cars to the shop and spend money on a quadratic duo-dangle flobmiester thingymajig going out which always seemed to be exactly $700 to fix.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2017 05:24 PM (ODxAs)

718 631
You could try using it for floor wax.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 05:05 PM (HgMAr)


_____________________________________________

"It's a dessert topping! No, it's a floor wax!"

Posted by: Publius Redux at January 04, 2017 05:24 PM (Fb9aZ)

719 Speaking of trucks, there's a big one parked in front of the White House.

I've been waiting to see this sight for 8 years
http://tinyurl.com/h3ythme

Posted by: weew at January 04, 2017 05:18 PM (6EH85)
................

whtazername sez she's HONORED to cover the WH for CNN.
*sniff* *sniff*

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 05:24 PM (HgMAr)

720 Do you know anyone who carries hotsause in their purse? Of course not, you racists.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 04, 2017 05:24 PM (g6yUI)

721 685 -wonder if they are stealing as much as the Clintons did. 328 1/2 hrs to go

Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2017 05:24 PM (5sOEp)

722 Well my 1999 Dodge Caravan is done, the brakes got spongey and I am not putting and more money into it, it was my Dad's car and he left it to me when he died and it's killing me that I will have to take it to the junkyard.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 04, 2017 05:24 PM (dKiJG)

723 705 690 Aetius451AD, uh no...

Michael Crichton - The Andromeda Strain. Project Wildfire. At one point the alien Andromeda bug while airborne starts to eat parts of a USAF recon jet that are made of a certain type of rubber. The Wildfire lab had seals made of the same stuff. The Wildfire team also discovered if the secret lab's nuclear suicide charge went off, it would make Andromeda far more deadly.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 05:19 PM (idrE1)

I have to read that at some point.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:21 PM (92kX2)

Or you could watch the movie, that scene was pretty dramatic.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at January 04, 2017 05:25 PM (R5EqA)

724 What I do hate is when they make a virtue of their
ignorance - pontificating about "assault rifles" and whatnot when it's
clear they don't know the first thing about guns.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:15 PM


Tucker Carlson had some anti-gun dude named Horowitz on, who deeply understands 'assault weapons', by dint of his statement "Assault weapons make killing more lethal, OK?"

Moar dead than dead!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 04, 2017 05:25 PM (DMUuz)

725 707 What's the ratio of pickup owners to gay people?
10:1?
A better question is not just how many pickup owners do you know, but "do you know ten times as many pickup owners as you do gay people?"
Posted by: wooga at January 04, 2017 05:22 PM (naT8w)

How about gay people who drive trucks?

Mind=blown.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:25 PM (92kX2)

726
whtazername sez she's HONORED to cover the WH for CNN.
*sniff* *sniff*
Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 05:24 PM (HgMAr)

she's = she is?
or she was?

Also don't know who you're talking about.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 05:25 PM (8hICw)

727 158
-How many hours have you spent in a deer-stand?
---

Can you identify:

-a deer
-a full bed pickup truck
- a miter saw

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 04, 2017 04:08 PM (J5mC3)



I miter saw a deer while from the bed of my pickup

Posted by: Jeff Foxworthy at January 04, 2017 05:25 PM (DpOmP)

728 RE: I Don't Know:

Who I look like to you? Christofo Columbo?

Posted by: mnw at January 04, 2017 05:25 PM (3iAUW)

729 *marshalls dragon over to shit in the garden*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 04, 2017 05:26 PM (hPfYF)

730 >>I know a gay truck owner.

How can you tell the truck is gay?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 05:26 PM (/tuJf)

731 I know a gay truck owner. Does that count double or do they cancel each other out?

Posted by: weew


How do you know if the truck is gay?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at January 04, 2017 05:26 PM (9krrF)

732 730 >>I know a gay truck owner.

How can you tell the truck is gay?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 05:26 PM (/tuJf)

Keeps trying go up other trucks' tailpipes.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 04, 2017 05:26 PM (0mRoj)

733 730 >>I know a gay truck owner.

How can you tell the truck is gay?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 05:26 PM (/tuJf)

"The banana in its tailpipe."

~ Axel Foley

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 05:27 PM (8hICw)

734 Missed it by > < that much

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at January 04, 2017 05:27 PM (9krrF)

735 What's the ratio of pickup owners to gay people?
10:1?
A better question is not just how many pickup owners do you know, but "do you know ten times as many pickup owners as you do gay people?"
Posted by: wooga at January 04, 2017 05:22 PM (naT8w)

The only fer sure out and proud gay guy I know is a relative who lives in Ft. Worth. He drives a pickup. I know several lesbians who mainly drive sedans. Since I am in OK, I, of course, know more truck drivers than gay folks, since every third vehicle is a truck....

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now @SMcEvil on GAB at January 04, 2017 05:27 PM (kXoT0)

736
Pneumatic hood supports (struts?) DEFINITELY get from Amazon.

Oh yeah. I get all my parts from ebay, hardly ever from parts stores. Ebay is like half the price. NAPA is the worst for prices.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 05:27 PM (4Ejxg)

737 Pneumatic hood supports (struts?) DEFINITELY get from Amazon. Find out
the number from auto zone and order from Amazon. Even with one of the
coupons auto zone constantly sends out they'll be $40 more for the set.>>>

If I don't need the part that day I get most of my cart parts from Rockauto or Parts Geek. Prices are usually half what NAPA autozone sell them for.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 04, 2017 05:27 PM (XtAzU)

738 it's killing me that I will have to take it to the junkyard.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 04, 2017 05:24 PM (dKiJG)

Take the steering wheel.

Seriously....that would be nice to see every day on the wall of the garage or in the basement or....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 04, 2017 05:27 PM (rF0hx)

739 To hell with the MSM commies and their blue state biases.

Where I live in Florida, filled with military retirees, everyone has a truck.

My daily driver is a 2002 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 extended cab with 4WD and 250,000 miles on the odometer. I got the Vortec V-8 rebuilt last year (it didn't need it, but it allowed me to put a hotter cam and better pistons) and the transmission was overhauled just a few months ago.

It runs like a top and sounds awesome with its Borla mufflers, which probably cause Prius driving eco-dorks to wet their pants. It tows my 23-foot fishing boat and my M Roadster on a trailer like a locomotive and it still has the original Rhino liner coating in the bed, which has hauled everything from mulch to lumber to build our deck.

It was my oldest son's, but I helped him buy a newer truck, a 2009 Silverado, when he got a full-ride scholarship to Boston College. I sold my former daily driver, a Hyundai Sonata, and haven't regretted it at all. My youngest son, who graduates this year from high school and was accepted to the CG Academy, drives a 2005 Silverado Z71 and loves it too. My wife has a 2011 Yukon and she loves it. No hybrids at our house.

My eldest drives his truck up to Boston, where it draws stares from the locals who aren't used to hearing the thunder of a V-8. His Blue state girlfriend thought we were lunatics when she saw all of the trucks in our driveway and our gun safe, but I think we've hopefully made her see that life down South is fundamentally different and that doesn't make us bad people.

Posted by: grizzledcoastie at January 04, 2017 05:27 PM (x37yo)

740 marshalls dragon over to shit in the garden

The tough part is raking it evenly over the whole acreage. But you find coins in it sometimes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 05:27 PM (39g3+)

741 "You can set my truck on fire and roll it down a hill and I still wouldn't trade it for a Coupe de Ville."

Posted by: A Jackson at January 04, 2017 05:28 PM (jiFJF)

742 318
I owned a truck when I came to Texas, but have since downsized to a car for the time being.



OT: can anybody give me am update on when SMFH's hubby's funeral is? I've been a bit out of touch lately.

Posted by: Country Boy - Stay Deplorable My Friends at January 04, 2017 04:23 PM (KUaxm)


She tells me that she's hoping for the Friday after this next one, but there are still uncertainties.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 04, 2017 05:28 PM (EzgxV)

743 685 -wonder if they are stealing as much as the Clintons did. 328 1/2 hrs to go
Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2017 05:24 PM (5sOEp)

Probably.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now @SMcEvil on GAB at January 04, 2017 05:29 PM (kXoT0)

744
So what brand spark plugs is recommended around these parts?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2017 05:29 PM (ODxAs)

745 "How do you know if the truck is gay?"

It has French written on it; i.e., "Chevrolet".

Posted by: Schaeffer at January 04, 2017 05:29 PM (001Yz)

746 Aetius451AD, a taste

https://youtu.be/hyCFRw9fdJM

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 05:29 PM (idrE1)

747 My eldest drives his truck up to Boston, where it draws stares from the locals who aren't used to hearing the thunder of a V-8.

That was one of my favorite parts of a Grand Tour episode. Richard Hammond tests the new Mustang GT and it has a very throaty GT with a supercharger. So you get this WHROOOMMMM wheeeeeeeeeeeeee sound that's the kind of awesome that makes American girl panties drop and guys salute the flag.

The other two guys hated it, of course, but he'd rev the engine in tunnels and it sounds like God clearing his throat.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 05:30 PM (39g3+)

748 she's = she is?
or she was?

Also don't know who you're talking about.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 04, 2017 05:25 PM (8hICw)
............

Michelle Kosinski
Travel savorer. Mango devourer. Occasional drummer. Oh yes and very much honored to cover the White House for CNN.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 05:30 PM (HgMAr)

749

I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison
So I went to pick her up in the rain
But before I could get to the station in my pick-up truck
She run over by a damned ol' train...

Posted by: David Allan Coe at January 04, 2017 05:31 PM (DpOmP)

750
So what brand spark plugs is recommended around these parts?

For spark plugs I always use the same as whatever came with the car.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 05:31 PM (4Ejxg)

751 Tucker Carlson had some anti-gun dude named Horowitz on, who deeply understands 'assault weapons', by dint of his statement "Assault weapons make killing more lethal, OK?"

Moar dead than dead!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 04, 2017 05:25 PM (DMUuz)

Ok, here is a real question: I always thought that assault rifle had a definitive definition: A shorter rifle round to bridge the gap between a rifle and a sub-machine gun. I thought that was the point of the MP-44 Sturmgewehr- the germans wanted something that was a bit more flexible/effective at medium ranges than ye old mp-38/40, with a higher rate of fire than a rifle.

Has this definition just been abandoned since then? I realize the progs are using it to cover a whole lot of ground for 'gun we don't like.' However, does anyone else use this definition?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:31 PM (92kX2)

752 Posted by: Concerned Republican Voter at January 04, 2017 05:23 PM (4bKiB)

The role differences are significant, but for even that many trucks to be sold means that a ludicrous number of people are buying them. Even admitting a 5:1 advantage in purchase numbers of cars (and SUVs) to pickups, not knowing anyone who has one is as absurdly highlighting of a bubble as any other missing significant minority. Four door sedans surely don't make up >1/6 of the vehicle population, but these folk would almost certainly be able to name somebody with one. Not a pickup. A significant portion of the public (at estimate well over 1/6 of vehicle drivers) and there's no connection.

The tweet is not silly, because it highlights that truck purchases are a BFD. "All cars" vs. only pickups is a silly comparison, and isolating SUVs (including pickup platform ones) from trucks is sillier still.

Posted by: Sporkatus at January 04, 2017 05:31 PM (eXSOZ)

753 How can you tell the truck is gay?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 05:26 PM (/tuJf)

Painted pink?

Posted by: Jill Stein, the green frog at January 04, 2017 05:31 PM (lEhiV)

754 How can you tell the truck is gay?

------

When it's dipstick tastes like shit.

Posted by: just the punchline at January 04, 2017 05:32 PM (JmjOe)

755 Or a rainbow flag sticker or an Equal sticker or a Hillary sticker

Posted by: Jill Stein, the green frog at January 04, 2017 05:32 PM (lEhiV)

756
Michelle Kosinski

Is she the fraud and liar who got into a canoe on a wet street in New Orleans and pretended she was in deep water?

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 05:32 PM (4Ejxg)

757
E-Bay seems to be the place to go for Ramcharger parts, that's for sure.

Damn few other places have anything for them.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 04, 2017 05:32 PM (X35Yt)

758 Truck Nutz are the assless chaps of the auto world.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 04, 2017 05:32 PM (QQ+il)

759 I've owned a Chevy S10, a Ford F-150 and five Jeep vehicles, including the Liberty I drive today. I've lived much of the time in northern Illinois (Chicago area) northern New York (Rochester), and in the west and southwest. No matter where I lived, 4Wd was always worth having. Now I've settled in Moab, UT where I lead photo tours in my Jeep, and almost everyone here has some kind of 4Wd, including Jeeps and Hummers, but especially pickup trucks.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 04, 2017 05:33 PM (ro5Th)

760 Is she the fraud and liar who got into a canoe on a wet street in New Orleans and pretended she was in deep water?

Yeah, she was canoe girl. Was so hilarious when the guy walked by her in waders, ankle deep.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 05:34 PM (39g3+)

761 And SUV is basically a car on a truck's body

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2017 05:34 PM (SjImc)

762 This is starting to sound a lot like the "do you know how I know you're gay?" trash talk from Forty Year Old Virgin

Posted by: weew at January 04, 2017 05:34 PM (6EH85)

763 Next questions for liberals: When was the last time you ate at McDonald's? Do you know anyone that routinely eats there?

When was the last time you attended a church, outside of a wedding or funeral? Do you know any Christian people?

When was the last time you fixed anything around your house, specifically plumbing and electrical?

What tools do you own?

What was the last thing you built from scratch? And I don't mean assembled, like from a kit.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at January 04, 2017 05:34 PM (UgF8H)

764 685
Moving Masters. Doing the job most Americans would love to do.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2017 05:34 PM (HgMAr)

765 "Well my 1999 Dodge Caravan is done, the brakes got spongy and I am not putting and more money into it, it was my Dad's car and he left it to me when he died and it's killing me that I will have to take it to the junkyard."
-Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 04, 2017 05:24 PM (dKiJG)

I'm guessing that the brakes weren't the bottom line for you. Eighteen years is a nice run for any automobile.

That it was gifted by your departed Father is another story. That is difficult to ponder, as my Father is still with me.

I have no idea what you are going through.

I only wish that our love finds you and finds you well.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The Horde has jagged edges, but it is a soft place to land when difficult times present themselves.

Know His love and know that The Horde is here for you, Good Sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 05:34 PM (6gk0M)

766 since every third vehicle is a truck....


Waaay back when I lived in Germany and bought a Jeep. Jeeps were rare enough that when the wife and I saw one on the road we'd point and yell "Jeep! Jeep! Jeep!".

Then we moved back to Cape Cod. Instinct kept us yelling Jeep! for a couple of weeks but it got tiring fast given that have the cars on the road were Jeeps.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at January 04, 2017 05:35 PM (mgbwf)

767
For spark plugs I always use the same as whatever came with the car. <<<<

Well, they are kinda gunky, but I'll throw em back in.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2017 05:35 PM (ODxAs)

768 "So what brand spark plugs is recommended around these parts?"

NGK for me if they fit the application.

Even in German cars.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 05:35 PM (noWW6)

769
If President Trump really called Schumer a clown today that makes me very happy.

Very, very happy. More, please!

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 05:35 PM (4Ejxg)

770
How can you tell the truck is gay? Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 05:26 PM (/tuJf)


Over sized tail pipe with a set of balls hanging from the trailer hitch

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at January 04, 2017 05:36 PM (lKyWE)

771 "I have people who know people with trucks for me."

Posted by: Axeman at January 04, 2017 05:36 PM (2mC6G)

772 Meh, Jeeps aren't really Jeeps these days. They're a Chrysler with a Jeep Grill. They put comfortable seats and AC and all that in them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 05:36 PM (39g3+)

773 Gay, Straight, Truck, Subaru ... I don't give a damn.

I just want people to quit lookin' down their nose at how I live. As a matter of fact, I insist.

Posted by: SD at January 04, 2017 05:36 PM (07YWD)

774 Speaking of trucks:

Moving Van Spotted Outside White House

Bye Bye!

Pic at Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2017 05:36 PM (SjImc)

775
Well, they are kinda gunky, but I'll throw em back in.

Ha!

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 05:36 PM (4Ejxg)

776 761 And SUV is basically a car on a truck's body

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2017 05:34 PM (SjImc)

You would think so, but because the EPA are pants-on-head retarded, any "tall" format vehicle can be cleverly described by its manufacturer as an SUV, therefore "truck", therefore lower fuel economy target. Kia Soul? "Truck". PT Cruiser? "Truck". etc. etc.

Posted by: Sporkatus at January 04, 2017 05:37 PM (eXSOZ)

777 A salt rifles are very different from pepper rifles...

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at January 04, 2017 05:37 PM (toH8T)

778 Fascinating, isn't it? Political journalists don't know anyone who drives a pickup. Never mind if it is a company truck or whatever. THEY DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO OWNS ONE!

And now they're still wondering and agonizing over how Trump could possibly have gotten elected.

Posted by: Gork at January 04, 2017 05:37 PM (9JDsW)

779 So what brand spark plugs is recommended around these parts?

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Depends on make and model. I always go OEM on plugs.

Always.

Posted by: just the punchline at January 04, 2017 05:37 PM (JmjOe)

780 When I was a boy I had the most realistic dream, I was driving a Truck and had a dog riding shotgun, I just knew that the Dream was real and the first vehicle I bought was a Truck and the dog came later.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 04, 2017 05:37 PM (dKiJG)

781
Ugggg socks.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 04, 2017 05:38 PM (JmjOe)

782 Those midsized mini SUVs are the Station Wagon of the modern era. People buy them thinking they are "crossovers" so they are truck-like cars, but they're just getting a Country Squire with a makeover.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 05:38 PM (39g3+)

783 "I realize the progs are using it to cover a whole lot of ground for 'gun we don't like.'"

Which is of course *all* guns. Hence the constant and depressing string of things being described by lefty journos as "assault rifles" that clearly are not.

http://tinyurl.com/8mb686o

Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 05:39 PM (noWW6)

784 Posted by: Sporkatus at January 04, 2017 05:31 PM (eXSOZ)

Eh, maybe. I wouldn't argue with the underlying point that most NY/DC journalists are not in touch with many rural/masculine "pickup people".

But "the top three best-selling models" schtick is BS.

(And you really can't include SUVs with pickups or the whole point falls apart. Those journos *do* know lots of people who drive CR-Vs.)

Anyhoo...

Posted by: Concerned Republican Voter at January 04, 2017 05:39 PM (10LGw)

785 "When I was a boy I had the most realistic dream, I was driving a Truck and had a dog riding shotgun, I just knew that the Dream was real and the first vehicle I bought was a Truck and the dog came later."
-Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 04, 2017 05:37 PM (dKiJG)

You're lucky. Mine was about a monster eating my neck.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 05:39 PM (6gk0M)

786 >> Meh, Jeeps aren't really Jeeps these days. They're a Chrysler with a Jeep Grill. They put comfortable seats and AC and all that in them.

Negative. My Grand Cherokee has a Mercedes 8 speed transmission (which is sweet, the old Jeep 5 speed transmission was clunky as hell) but it's mostly Jeep. They have gotten a lot nicer inside over the years but again a lot of that is Mercedes inspired.

One of the better cars I've owned.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 05:39 PM (/tuJf)

787
Nod Gunzz!

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at January 04, 2017 05:39 PM (4Ejxg)

788 772

I'm bitterly clinging to my TJ. Still looks and runs like new.

Posted by: weew at January 04, 2017 05:39 PM (6EH85)

789 A salt rifles are very different from pepper rifles...

I don't know about you but when I'm in a fancy restaurant and that kid comes up with the pepper rifle, I get nervous.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 04, 2017 05:40 PM (39g3+)

790 761 And SUV is basically a car on a truck's body

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2017 05:34 PM (SjImc)


It's a truck *station wagon*.

Don't deny it.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at January 04, 2017 05:40 PM (R5EqA)

791 783 "I realize the progs are using it to cover a whole lot of ground for 'gun we don't like.'"

Which is of course *all* guns. Hence the constant and depressing string of things being described by lefty journos as "assault rifles" that clearly are not.

http://tinyurl.com/8mb686o
Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 05:39 PM (noWW6)

It isn't just that they're ignorant, they're stridently, self-righteously, uncorrectably ignorant.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 04, 2017 05:40 PM (0mRoj)

792 Back from sitting on my ass for hours all afternoon at the hospital waiting on them to do my blood work for a colonoscapy on Friday. My appointment was scheduled for 2 pm. It wasn't until 3:45 before they called me to the desk to register. And then some more wait. I got home about 5 pm.


If I had my way I burn that building full of incompetent assholes to the ground.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 04, 2017 05:41 PM (mpXpK)

793 I know a gay truck owner. Does that count double or do they cancel each other out?
Posted by: weew at January 04, 2017 05:24 PM (6EH85)




You could be talking about my landlord? He drives an F-250 diesel.

Posted by: Country Singer (Gab @Bert G) at January 04, 2017 05:41 PM (GUBah)

794 NOOD Gunz!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 04, 2017 05:41 PM (6gk0M)

795 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

Posted by: weew at January 04, 2017 05:41 PM (6EH85)

796 Pneumatic hood supports (struts?) DEFINITELY get from Amazon.

Oh yeah. I get all my parts from ebay, hardly ever from parts stores. Ebay is like half the price. NAPA is the worst for prices.

Posted by: Soothsayer
****

Rock Auto is usually good too.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at January 04, 2017 05:41 PM (0x/TW)

797 Good gosh in 2008 they tried to remake Andromeda Strain as a two part show... this is the jet scene in the remake. And bonus points for identifying how many things are wrong with the F-16....

https://youtu.be/21xDu1aU6bg

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 05:41 PM (idrE1)

798 Out here in the West we call our SUVs our "trucks". They are definitely not "cars".

Posted by: Ruthless at January 04, 2017 05:42 PM (ro5Th)

799
hmmm... sold in packs of 4 or individually. So for a v6 Imma gonna have to ask my daughter to do some math.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2017 05:42 PM (ODxAs)

800 797 The 2008 version is horrendous.

Posted by: steevy at January 04, 2017 05:43 PM (r/0kC)

801 Slapweasel

The Transmission is slipping and the car is in limp mode so I can still drive it short distances, but it makes no sense to pay 1,500 to 3000 dollars to fix the transmission. It's a wheelchair van so I am going to donate it and maybe someone can fix it up.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 04, 2017 05:43 PM (dKiJG)

802 "I always go OEM on plugs. Always."

There were those Ford Motorcraft plugs seemingly designed with great skill to break off in the head upon any attempt to remove them.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2017 05:44 PM (noWW6)

803 685 Speaking of trucks, there's a big one parked in front of the White House.

I've been waiting to see this sight for 8 years
http://tinyurl.com/h3ythme
Posted by: weew at January 04, 2017 05:18 PM (6EH85)
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That's not the White House.
I'm not sure what building it is but it's definitely not the WH.

But, yeah, a lot of political appointees are moving stuff out of their offices right now. Heh.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 04, 2017 05:44 PM (Nox3c)

804 Meh, Jeeps aren't really Jeeps these days.

This is mostly true, Wranglers are still Jeeps.

The Cherokee was a body-on-frame, spring leaf suspension, actual truck. I owned four of them and then Jeep decided that making the perfect SUV for twenty years wasn't enough fun and scrapped it for a variety of unibody turds.

So I moved on to XTerras, likewise a perfect car with a truck frame. So of course Nissan has discontinued them.

I hope that by the time I beat this one into the ground someone else will decide to make a true truck SUV again.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at January 04, 2017 05:44 PM (mgbwf)

805 Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 05:39 PM (/tuJf)

The 5-speed was actually a Daimler-Benz unit and it had lots of problems. The 8-speed is a ZF and everyone seems to like it much better.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at January 04, 2017 05:44 PM (R5EqA)

806 Ok, here is a real question: I always thought that
assault rifle had a definitive definition: A shorter rifle round to
bridge the gap between a rifle and a sub-machine gun. I thought that was
the point of the MP-44 Sturmgewehr- the germans wanted something that
was a bit more flexible/effective at medium ranges than ye old mp-38/40,
with a higher rate of fire than a rifle.



Has this definition just been abandoned since then? I realize the
progs are using it to cover a whole lot of ground for 'gun we don't
like.' However, does anyone else use this definition?



Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 04, 2017 05:31 PM


Technically, except for a few nittiest of nitty details (StG-44 (Sturmgewehr (storm rifle or assault rifle), not MP44 (it was, however, the replacement name for the MP43), you are correct.

Students of weaponry use the definition; for most folks it's details that don't have a lot of relevance today, and, as you say, the proggies now have morphed into 'assault weapons', which translates into 'anything I don't like/am scared of'.


The term assault rifle is generally attributed to Adolf Hitler, who for propaganda purposes used the German word "Sturmgewehr" (which translates to "storm rifle" or "assault rifle"), as the new name for the MP43, subsequently known as the Sturmgewehr 44 or StG 44

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 04, 2017 05:45 PM (DMUuz)

807
700 685 Speaking of trucks, there's a big one parked in front of the White House.

I've been waiting to see this sight for 8 years
http://tinyurl.com/h3ythme
Posted by: weew at January 04, 2017 05:18 PM (6EH85)

That was surprisingly easy to fap to.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 04, 2017 05:21 PM (0mRoj)








A quick-lube place down the road from work has been counting down the days since 30 on the sign out front. But they're sneaky. They don't say why, it's just "Days Left: 16"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 04, 2017 05:46 PM (LuZz8)

808 But "the top three best-selling models" schtick is BS.

There are entire brands that don't sell as much as those leaders. As an example, F-series sales for 2014 in the US were three times all sales for Volkswagen, and likely (I haven't checked) exceeded all German cars combined. And yet, wouldn't these people think somebody in the sticks was pretty fucking parochial if he didn't know anybody who had a German car?

Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander. It beggars the imagination that these people don't know anybody, anybody at all, with any of several extremely popular vehicles, but it is more staggering that they cannot admit it.

Posted by: Sporkatus at January 04, 2017 05:46 PM (eXSOZ)

809 479 411 402 These journalists travel in a world that has boundaries and they have - get this - no curiosity about what lies beyond the boundaries of their "bubbles" when their profession would seem to require them too.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The 2017 Bunkers, Panic Rooms, and Bomb Shelters Await You at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2017 04:33 PM (hLRSq)

======================

If your job is to fix cars in Nebraska, and you don't want to tell Manhattanites how to live, then not know how people in Manhattan live is not a problem for you.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 04, 2017 04:34 PM (/prE6)

Well, that's true, but the journalists in Manhattan seem to want to tell the guy in Nebraska how to live.

And I once thought that one reason people became journalists was because they were insatiably curious about life and other people. Who? What? Where? Why? How? What's at the bottom of this story? Why did he do that? Why would she think that way?

The weirdest thing about journalists today is that as they've become more "educated" (compared to the "Front Page" days) they seem so incurious - because they're more interested in pushing their own narrative than figuring out human motivations and learning about people who are not like them.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 04, 2017 04:42 PM (ZM2xo)

I was a reporter for a small town for many years. The thing that attracted me to that industry was curiosity and the ability to make a living writing and meeting people.
If I had the chance to meet and interview, a member of the Green Party, I actually wanted to know why they believed what they believed. The journalists of today seem to have no such curiosity.

BTW the community I lived in was conservative and the newspaper was conservative as well.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2017 05:46 PM (hJrjt)

810 Even when I worked in SF, I had a pick up. Covered parking got up over $200 a month (70s) for my Corvette and Cadillac. My fabulous b-i-l built me a '67 Chevy Fleetside, dropping in a 396 coupled with the factory 410 rear end. It was primer gray so no one would lift it. Sucker would do wheelies. Love, love, loved it. The 3 speed on the column was awkward, but it could walk away from most in any gear. Now living in heaven (Iowa), we have a Lincoln and Chevy pickup, the attorney across the street has a gussied F-150, the doctor next door to him has a Silverado. I know one assbite with a Prius, my sister in up state New York. In the winter she drives a Ford Flex. We don't speak so its not an issue.

Posted by: Anna Mac at January 04, 2017 05:47 PM (xujfC)

811 >>The 5-speed was actually a Daimler-Benz unit and it had lots of problems. The 8-speed is a ZF and everyone seems to like it much better.

I actually had an older Grand Cherokee years ago that had a Jeep tranny. It really was clunky.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 05:47 PM (/tuJf)

812 I live in Texas where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting someone who owns a truck. Even a female Chinese co-worker is talking about buying an F-350 for some reason even though she has nothing to tow or haul with it.

I owned a Chevy Avalanche for awhile but downsized to a Cruze when I bought a Roadtrek E-Trek...a Mercedes Sprinter van that was converted into a Class B RV. It's an awesome road trip and tailgating machine. I can put the seats down in the back and haul a fair amount of stuff in it if I need to.

Posted by: RSR at January 04, 2017 05:47 PM (NysXC)

813 Lots of pickup trucks on my street. Because I live in Texas, I suppose.

Posted by: Avogadra at January 04, 2017 05:48 PM (X2SYo)

814 Me I like Minivans because we can fold down the seats and you have a huge area for loading all kinds of crap like when my wife goes shopping for her garden and nobody asks to barrow a minivan. Everyone and his Mother would ask you to help them move if you owned a Truck.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 04, 2017 05:49 PM (dKiJG)

815 What a wonderful bunch we are -- if we aren't talking about guns or boobs, it's pickup trucks. There's no place like this one.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 04, 2017 05:49 PM (ro5Th)

816 753 How can you tell the truck is gay?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 04, 2017 05:26 PM (/tuJf)

Painted pink?
Posted by: Jill Stein, the green frog at January 04, 2017 05:31 PM (lEhiV)

Lip marks on the tail pipe?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2017 05:49 PM (hJrjt)

817 Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at January 04, 2017 05:44 PM (mgbwf)

The now-classic "Cherokee" (XJ) built from 1984-2001 was unibody and coil-spring suspended (made making the truck version 1984-88 interesting) They used it as the basis for the Wrangler starting in 1997 - and they shared dashboards from that year on.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at January 04, 2017 05:50 PM (R5EqA)

818 I've never owned a truck because I happen to like sedans. But I know lots of truck owners and I'm seriously considering getting a truck next time around, which could be a while.

Full size pickups, however, don't fit into my garage and being vertically challenged I can find them a little hard to climb into. A full size pickup with a lift kit is very difficult for me to get into.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2017 05:53 PM (hJrjt)

819 I had a mid-90s Wrangler (the year they put square headlights on them) that I shipped over the water and drove all over Western Europe. And yes, I remember in Germany in particular people were waving and flashing their lights when they saw me coming in my Jeep. Other places, like the UK, France, Scandinavia, Spain or Italy, not so much. Germans really love the American West, so they probably see the Jeep as part of that lifestyle.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 04, 2017 05:53 PM (ro5Th)

820 We Talked about getting a truck so we could get a 5th wheel later. 5th wheels are really nice, you really are bringing home with you and no more sleeping in Hotels where you don't know the last time the rooms been cleaned.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 04, 2017 05:55 PM (dKiJG)

821 And how many are Prius owners? And I don't mean a fleet.

Posted by: 80's music fan at January 04, 2017 05:55 PM (PHcLa)

822

Full size pickups, however, don't fit into my garage and being vertically challenged I can find them a little hard to climb into. A full size pickup with a lift kit is very difficult for me to get into.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2017 05:53 PM (hJrjt)

Not making fun but some trucks have steps that pop out when you open the door, My wife always had a hard time getting in my Truck and she saw a Ford commercial and she said she could go with that.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 04, 2017 05:58 PM (dKiJG)

823 I took my Dodge Ram Hemi to 172,000 miles, and it was still running great when I decided it was time to let someone else have it. I wondered if I was being traitorous when I bought my 4WD Toyota Tacoma, but damn, I have loved driving that peppy little hauler. Handles better than any other truck I've ever driven.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 04, 2017 05:59 PM (Mb+1L)

824 re: the wife. I'm pretty tall so I've never had a problem stepping into the cab. My wife, especially on the Ram, said it always made her feel like she was having to climb into a covered wagon or something.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 04, 2017 06:01 PM (Mb+1L)

825 Brother Cavil, I don't give good advice, but the first thing you need to do is get out and deal with people socialy, and by that I mean real people in person.

If you are like me grief will drive you inwards, and from there you get lonely and don't know why.
So you need to get out and interact with people and give yourself time to adapt to the new world.

But deal with real people, don't adapt feral cats or women freshly into AA or other people that need caretaking

Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2017 06:03 PM (9MInk)

826 There is something to be said for watching a short, shapely woman in a tight, short dress get into a lifted pickup unassisted.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2017 06:05 PM (9MInk)

827 Does a 1994 GMC Suburban count?
Did I mention it's got a supercharger?

Posted by: Some Guy in Michigan at January 04, 2017 06:08 PM (8+8tu)

828 And bonus points for identifying how many things are wrong with the F-16....
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2017 05:41 PM (idrE1)


It's not wearing sexy aggressor paint. Probably other stuff too, but I'm just not in the mood if it isn't in black and white or Flanker blue.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 04, 2017 06:13 PM (8nWyX)

829 Had surgery last week. As my husband drove through the parking lot to the surgery center, he told me to look to my left where the signs along the fence indicated physician parking only. Of approximately 25 spaces, I saw only one vehicle that was not a late-model pickup truck, and that one was a large SUV. Hubby drives a 2015 Dodge Ram 1500 (his second Ram); we also have a 2000 S10, and I drive a 2017 Rubicon.

Posted by: Rana at January 04, 2017 06:16 PM (SUuMm)

830 Well c'mon up to Alberta Frank but keep your Smartie car in the slow lane lest the one ton dualies pulling horse trailers at 80 mph don't see you in time.

Posted by: Markon at January 04, 2017 06:19 PM (aK3kV)

831

What it was about this question that made it catnip for commies, I don't know.

Catnip? This question, a question that, as others point out, must be answered either YES or NO, was asked in potentially The Most Public Forum of All Time ... and therefore It Must Be Answered, and therefore must be publicly answered either YES or NO ...

How about ... it's actually a great & sour fart, possibly of all time, that every reporter or journalist simply cannot evade. They must smell it and breathe in the odor ... and everyone knows it.


"They All Light Their Hair on Fire in Response"

Of course they do. They live in the exclusive-yet-crowded Elite Elevator of Elite Journalism ... no windows, no air fresheners, no emergency can of Glade, and regrettably, no candles .. this is the Internet. They can't avoid breathing for a few days ...

What else could they do?

Posted by: Arbalest at January 04, 2017 06:22 PM (FlRtG)

832 Good friend (from the Island) drives a pickup.
My wife drives our beater and I drive a Dodge Challenger (RT)
Not a truck but it does make a statement.
And that statement is: "F*ck you" (in a friendly, pro-America way)

Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 04, 2017 06:25 PM (QtQaN)

833 Re: SUV and station wagons

If you don't know why the hated SUV came to be so popular, read up on the demise of the station wagon. Short version: as cars, station wagons had to meet government/CAFE mandates for cars. Trucks had massively easier mpg requirements. Hello SUVs. Thanks, government!

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at January 04, 2017 06:26 PM (0BApD)

834 Good lord they fell for that one...and still are even after it is obvious they have been played.

Posted by: William Eaton at January 04, 2017 06:44 PM (MuTTO)

835 We need a Pick-Up Truck on the American regalia...like the Bald Eagle, etc.

Posted by: William Eaton at January 04, 2017 06:45 PM (MuTTO)

836 Isn't you're very nice description of human behavior indicative that you know everything about the human condition, the Alpha and Omega?

Not only should we say I don't know, we should never give advice. Dammit, now I did it....

Posted by: James M Yerian at January 04, 2017 06:46 PM (PjdRu)

837 52 Chainsaw and a little imagination...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 04, 2017 07:05 PM (Kucy5)

838 I read the post earlier at work, but didn't have much time to spend with the comments.

I know several people with pickups, and in fact one was parked right outside my window at work. It belonged to my boss' sister, who had stopped by to visit him.

I've never owned one myself, but the last three cars I've owned were a hatchback, a station wagon, and now a Mazda 5, which is a miniminivan. It's only a little bigger than the Toyota station wagon I had previously.

Although I don't haul stuff for work, I like having the capability to carry cargo when necessary. Last summer I used the Mazda to take my lawnmower to the repair shop. Once I folded the handle, it fit inside easily. That would be a bit more awkward with a sedan.

Posted by: rickl at January 04, 2017 07:07 PM (sdi6R)

839 I thought about this in mn. we drive trucks (some 50 to60k trucks) I dont think hildabeast got alot of truck voters,even though this state votes demonrat. but thats not it its they could not tow a boat or r,v, or run a chainsaw to fill up the bed, They are the kinda people you laugh at at the boat ramp then eventually help out,they are too scared to even try something like that thats for rednecks and hicks! too scared is the real reason,

Posted by: nancysjet at January 04, 2017 07:10 PM (cNY1z)

840 2012 Tacoma and I'm happier with that than the American press...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 04, 2017 07:17 PM (Kucy5)

841 torquewrench
Ya that sales sounds bad even for a used car sales. The traditional manual trans with a clutch are becoming rarer and rarer

Posted by: Shiggz at January 04, 2017 07:28 PM (G7wcY)

842 486
My car is annoying me at the moment. The SEL (service engine light) is on and I can't yet figure out what the hell.

Computers (ECM's) are the worst thing.
Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite

most auto parts stores will do a free scan read for you

Posted by: Shiggz at January 04, 2017 08:06 PM (G7wcY)

843 a lot of cars now engine light set to go off automatically every so many miles

Posted by: Shiggz at January 04, 2017 08:07 PM (G7wcY)

844 I've only owned 2 trucks in my life.
...a Ford F250 from 1987 - 2003 and a Toyota Tundra since then.
...in case you needed to beef up truck numbers for this group.

...oh, and Hi

Posted by: ontherocks at January 04, 2017 08:15 PM (nIGPZ)

845 Best spark plugs are platinum or iridium. Spark plugs, tires and oil are three things to buy the most expensive stuff you can afford.

As for the Moron dissing Chevys, good luck fixing the blown turbos on the "Eco" boost V-6s that are the main engines for the F-150 series. BTW, they get no better or even worse gas mileage than the naturally aspirated V-8s in the Chevys. You'll be lucky to get 150k out of those turbos, especially in the 2.7 liter engines.

And the "a-lew-meen-e-um" body of the newer F-150s requires a specialized body shop to fix, which leads to higher repair and insurance costs. Chevys are made from good old-fashioned steel. Real trucks aren't made from soda cans.

And Richard Hammond's car on the Italian episode was a Dodge Challenger Hellcat, which has a 707 horsepower supercharged Hemi V-8.

Posted by: grizzledcoastie at January 04, 2017 08:50 PM (x37yo)

846 >When I lived in LA, I used to see a whole lot of Chevy El Caminos, a model that is rare here in the northeast, and I always wanted one for some unknown reason.

The front is like a car,
The back is like a truck,
The front is where you drive
And the back is where you
El Camino! El, El Camino!

Posted by: Scott at January 04, 2017 09:54 PM (SI1l5)

847 I worked for a large credit card company that also published a couple of high-end magazines. One was in the "food" space.

We would frequently mail a random selection of card holders subscription solicitations and use regression analysis to determine what spending characteristics the responders had in common--using that data to select larger more responsive prospect lists from the database.

The editor of this "foodie" magazine was a NYC urban prog that was so cool. And boy, did she have the pulse of her readership.

My single most satisfying interaction with her was getting to watch her head simultaneously ignite and explode when I told her that largest prospect identifier was an individual that had, in the prior six months, rented a car out of their home state and eaten at an Olive Garden restaurant.

Trucks and Olive Garden, what everything outside of NYC and LA is all about.

Posted by: Wally at January 04, 2017 10:01 PM (64YTh)

848 My car is annoying me at the moment. The SEL (service engine light) is on and I can't yet figure out what the hell.



Computers (ECM's) are the worst thing.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite

A lot of times it's an emission related thing. Could be as simple as an air filter...bad gas cap etc.

Posted by: Mimzey at January 04, 2017 10:03 PM (n3hky)

849 Hey. I understand that I am somewhere close to being the 1000th comment, but I can't let this slip by.

Ace, with proper emails and background checks (a lightly redacted fax of your CCW permit will do), we'd like to invite you our the Farm here in north central Mississippi. We''l pick you up at MEM (that's Memphis, Memhis, Tennessee) and drive you back *in our truck*' to the farm.

And we'll eat some food and go from there.

In the late 1800's, Turner proclaimed the Frontier gone. Can't quote it from memory. But basically he looked at the census and proclaimed that the American Frontier was closed.

His proclamation is everywhere in history books. Ask Steyn if you don't believe me.

The truck is Americans' fuck you to Turner.

Nothing light driving a truck on a gravel road. Or up a muddy hill. Once almost got a truck in 4 wheel drive stuck in the sand out at Okracoke except I didn't. Awful Arthurs.

A truck is a vehicle. It gets you into places other vehicles cannot.

Posted by: Marica Bernstein at January 04, 2017 10:11 PM (7VJw1)

850 Crap. I forgot I had a footnote.

1. In my part of the world, "truck" is more common than "pickup truck." Too many words.

Like. If you watch college football, you may have come to know that the FORD 150 is the BEST SELLING TRUCK OF ALL TIME SINCE EVER.

No one confuses sales of F-150s with sales of Peterbilts. So "pickup" is redundant.

Posted by: Marica Bernstein at January 04, 2017 10:16 PM (7VJw1)

851 I have two F-150s, just because.

Posted by: SouthTexas at January 05, 2017 12:17 AM (Elnfu)

852 I have a pickup, Ace. Have owned three. So you knowzz at least one guy.

Posted by: LikeAViking at January 05, 2017 08:28 AM (dk3Vl)

853 I've had six figure jobs working in gleaming office buildings and low wage jobs that involved driving a twenty year old pick up truck around the state. I'll take the latter any day. If I could make one recommendation to any young man entering the working world, its pick a career that you can do out of a pickup truck. Its the best...the closest you can get to be a cowboy these days unless you actually own a horse!

Posted by: Zon Toro at January 05, 2017 02:13 PM (82s/V)

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