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On Way Out the Door, Obama Administration Changes Rule So That Now Those Who Receive SSI Payments Will be Categorized Officially as "Mental Defectives" and Thus Flagged on Gun-Purchase Background Checks as Ineligible to Buy Guns
The Administration says that it suddenly realized it was required to do this to comport with the law.
Very odd that they're reversing a previous ruling, that they didn't have to automatically categorize SSI recipients as "mental defectives," after letting that ruling stand until three weeks before this clownish ideologue was booted out of public housing.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: ghbucky at December 28, 2016 04:07 PM (D2q91)
Posted by: Guzalot at December 28, 2016 04:07 PM (schB/)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2016 04:08 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Bosk at December 28, 2016 04:08 PM (n2K+4)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2016 04:09 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Sponge at December 28, 2016 04:10 PM (GVYK1)
Posted by: L, Elle at December 28, 2016 04:10 PM (SgI6S)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 28, 2016 04:11 PM (U6f54)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 28, 2016 04:11 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2016 04:09 PM (u82oZ)
Which just underscores that this move in intended to be a big FUCK YOU to the American People.
They know it won't last out Trump coming into office, but they are doing it anyway.
Posted by: ghbucky at December 28, 2016 04:11 PM (D2q91)
Posted by: 13times at December 28, 2016 04:11 PM (WHVu+)
Posted by: L, Elle at December 28, 2016 04:10 PM (SgI6S)
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1) To create so many that he can't reverse them all.
2) To sidetrack him from undoing other things like the ACA.
Will it work? I dunno.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 28, 2016 04:11 PM (ELUpj)
Yes. But the more they push, the less tolerant I feel.
We can do a lot to mess the Left up, if needed. Note, this is not all at the governmental level. If they want to make it personal - -.
Blowback is a hell of a thing.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2016 04:11 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 28, 2016 04:12 PM (icl5y)
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 04:12 PM (g9txO)
Posted by: L, Elle at December 28, 2016 04:10 PM (SgI6S)
How many will be refused guns in the next 3 weeks? Probably a few. Then, how do you reverse it? Once you're listed, you're always listed.
Posted by: Sponge at December 28, 2016 04:13 PM (GVYK1)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 28, 2016 04:13 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at December 28, 2016 04:13 PM (7A6l6)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 28, 2016 04:13 PM (X7E8f)
Exit poll: if Lord Barack is doing this in public, what is he doing in private that we don't know about yet?
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 28, 2016 04:13 PM (OnREi)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 28, 2016 04:13 PM (mgbwf)
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 04:14 PM (g9txO)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 28, 2016 04:14 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Dildos vs Guns! at December 28, 2016 04:14 PM (Re/7S)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 04:14 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at December 28, 2016 04:14 PM (ul9CR)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 04:15 PM (8ReTf)
Good times, good times....
Posted by: T at December 28, 2016 04:15 PM (IKdzI)
And I thought I couldn't despise this piece of shit cocksucker even more.
Posted by: tu3031 at December 28, 2016 04:15 PM (qJhUV)
obama should be removed of his glove.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 28, 2016 04:15 PM (uBa68)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 28, 2016 04:16 PM (jsWA8)
Posted by: #NotTiredOfWinning at December 28, 2016 04:16 PM (Re/7S)
How is that different?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at December 28, 2016 04:16 PM (u0s1P)
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 04:17 PM (g9txO)
Posted by: T at December 28, 2016 04:17 PM (IKdzI)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 04:17 PM (8ReTf)
Now donate to reelect us ASAP!!!
Posted by: The GOP at December 28, 2016 04:17 PM (xIBU4)
***
The point of gun control groups are to specifically deny segments of the American population their civil rights.
The government routinely goes after other such groups for violating other civil rights.
There is no reason that Trump can't sic a new FBI agency on the gun grabbers....
Hell, his administration could specifically prosecute Carolyn W. Colvin, the current head of the SSA, as soon as he is in office.
I doubt he will, but this is no different then if some element of the government was caught denying the vote to people based on skin color...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 28, 2016 04:18 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: huerfano at December 28, 2016 04:18 PM (jkkMG)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 28, 2016 04:18 PM (nl2r8)
HEY GOP YOU CAN OVERTURN THIS BY ACTUALLY PASSING A DAMN LAW THAT SAYS NOPE NOPE NOPE TO THAT REGULATION BECAUSE YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO DELEGATE AWAY ALL YOUR POWERS, REALLY, I PROMISE!
pantpantpantpantpant
All I want is for Trump to speak Delegation Doctrine. That's all I want.
And this lamp.
Delegation Doctrine and this lamp.
And this remote.
Delegation Doctrine, this lamp and this remote. That's all I want.
Posted by: alexthechick - stupid ceiling tree rats at December 28, 2016 04:18 PM (mf5HN)
Let's say you get laid off.
Then you run out of unemployment.
The next step is to have a "disability." The most popular one is bioplar disorder. You get a doctor to sign off, throw a bunch of money at lawyers, and voila! Uncle Sugar is sending you checks for the rest of your life when you can easily work.
I fully accept that there are lots of people out there that have genuine reasons for getting SSI, and have no problem with them receiving it, but as the economy has stagnated, this has become the new path to a life of ease.
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 28, 2016 04:18 PM (OnREi)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2016 04:18 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 04:17 PM (g9txO)
He's been doing that since Day 1 in between the golf games.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 28, 2016 04:18 PM (493sH)
Posted by: John McLame at December 28, 2016 04:18 PM (Re/7S)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 28, 2016 04:19 PM (nl2r8)
Every EO that Jug Eared Fuck wrote for the last 8 years is null & void.
__________________
Donald J Trump
President
Easy peasy.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 04:19 PM (O7kBk)
Obama is a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure.
23 days left.
23 days.
Posted by: Cymbaline at December 28, 2016 04:19 PM (/1FgJ)
That's good news.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at December 28, 2016 04:19 PM (ul9CR)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 28, 2016 04:19 PM (uBa68)
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:19 PM (dFi94)
Sadly, a lot of the other legal damage done recently will take a *lot* more work to undo.
It does highlight the level of contempt the cloistered bureaucrats have for "the people."
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 28, 2016 04:19 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2016 04:19 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2016 04:20 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 28, 2016 04:20 PM (nl2r8)
Aaarrrrrggghhhhhh!!!!
Posted by: The GOP at December 28, 2016 04:20 PM (xIBU4)
When I clicked on the sidebar under "Top Tens" for the "Signs That You, George Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up", I noticed another old Ace post from 4/29/04, "The ultimate Kerry Bumper Sticker", which contained this gem:
"You don't have to fall in love," Hillary Rodham Clinton reportedly
reproved a top Democratic fundraiser who was recently moaning about
Kerry's lackluster performance as a candidate. "You just have to fall in
line."
Holy shit. Talk about foreshadowing!!!! :O
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 28, 2016 04:20 PM (wtvvX)
defectives," thereby having their ability to own a firearm subject to
the federal Gun Control Act.
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The masks keep falling. These people believe in their own status as a Progressive "master race".
This is Nazi talk.
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at December 28, 2016 04:20 PM (toH8T)
Does being classified as mentally defective also make you ineligible to vote?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 04:20 PM (lKyWE)
"I won."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2016 04:20 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: ibguy at December 28, 2016 04:20 PM (vUcdz)
But he's not who we are as a nation.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at December 28, 2016 04:20 PM (ul9CR)
Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2016 04:20 PM (5sOEp)
Posted by: m at December 28, 2016 04:21 PM (3jGss)
That's when we found out my Mother just made up a SS number for me because she was too lazy to fill out the forms
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 28, 2016 04:21 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 28, 2016 04:21 PM (wB8Tg)
Works for Sweden.
Posted by: Asking for it at December 28, 2016 04:21 PM (Re/7S)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 28, 2016 04:20 PM (nl2r
==========================
Ya, you're probably right.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:21 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 28, 2016 04:22 PM (nl2r8)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 04:22 PM (O7kBk)
Posted by: Yo! at December 28, 2016 04:22 PM (PzHcy)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2016 04:22 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Evilpens at December 28, 2016 04:22 PM (y3aQB)
Yes, and then the left's mantra will be "Trump removed rules keeping crazy people from getting guns!!!"
The truth of it won't matter, it'll be another cliche they'll repeat ad infinitum.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 28, 2016 04:22 PM (Mt8T4)
Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2016 04:22 PM (5sOEp)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, Dividing by Zero at December 28, 2016 04:22 PM (29QcC)
Posted by: Dems 2018 at December 28, 2016 04:23 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 28, 2016 04:23 PM (uBa68)
reasons for getting SSI, and have no problem with them receiving it,
but as the economy has stagnated, this has become the new path to a life
of ease.
***
Actually it is even worse then that.
We've imported 20-40M people to take low skill jobs and pushed a lot of Americans into a position where it is hard to find that sort of job anymore.
In return the government purposely turned a blind eye to fake SSI claims.
We are importing illegals to "work for less" then Americans, so the Americans that would have been doing those jobs can go on SSI instead. Which, of course, is paid for out of taxes. Which of course costs a lot more then paying a "living wage" for carpentry, house cleaning, landscaping, etc.
IT
IS
FARKING
INSANE
Posted by: 18-1 at December 28, 2016 04:23 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 04:23 PM (O7kBk)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 28, 2016 04:23 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:23 PM (dFi94)
purchase a firearm? You're just supposed to sit there helpless and
unable to defend yourself?
You could always go on a nice ocean cruise
Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2016 04:23 PM (8ikIW)
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 04:23 PM (g9txO)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 28, 2016 04:23 PM (voOPb)
Someone in charge of tracking all this bs would be a good idea. It's hard to keep it all straight it coming so---umm-fast and furious"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 28, 2016 04:24 PM (tOcW/)
Posted by: Yo! at December 28, 2016 04:24 PM (PzHcy)
When do we get to the part about surrendering their reproductive rights?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2016 04:24 PM (J+eG2)
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If you're in a wheelchair, you're mentally defective. So of course you can't have a firearm. You might hurt someone. You might hurt yourself.
On the positive side, you won't be around much longer. If you're in a wheelchair, the insurance companies have spent way too much money on your healthcare, so you'll be getting a call from our Death Panel. I mean our "Obamacare Cost Auditing Team."
Posted by: Lord Barack the Insane at December 28, 2016 04:24 PM (OnREi)
Yes, and then the left's mantra will be "Trump removed rules keeping crazy people from getting guns!!!"
The truth of it won't matter, it'll be another cliche they'll repeat ad infinitum.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 28, 2016 04:22 PM (Mt8T4)
In all honesty I don't think Trump will give a shit what they say he will just do it.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 28, 2016 04:24 PM (dKiJG)
Mind you, this rule is still bullshit, but Supplemental Security Income is not Social Security Disability.
There is some overlap but it's a different program.
Posted by: alexthechick - stupid ceiling tree rats at December 28, 2016 04:24 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue at December 28, 2016 04:25 PM (9iR5/)
Then on the foreign relations front they are trying hard to set up wars to start very shortly after Trump is sworn in. Evil cads.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 28, 2016 04:25 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: ThunderB
There are plenty of Dem-voting old people, minorities, and women on SSI who deeply value the ability to protect themselves. I'm going to guess that being labeled as mental defectives won't go over very well. Good for us. Even after Trump rescinds this, the sting and insult will linger.
Posted by: pep at December 28, 2016 04:25 PM (LAe3v)
Thankfully, it is unconstitutional to quarter soldiers in people's homes. The mess would be unacceptable.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 04:25 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Bitch McConnell with a Dick In His Mouth at December 28, 2016 04:25 PM (97XyN)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, Dividing by Zero at December 28, 2016 04:26 PM (9Q5BJ)
Posted by: Killerdog at December 28, 2016 04:26 PM (r5sZn)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 04:26 PM (8ReTf)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 04:26 PM (QQ+il)
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: ibguy at December 28, 2016 04:20 PM (vUcdz)
Yes, the ashtray too.
Posted by: alexthechick - stupid ceiling tree rats at December 28, 2016 04:26 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 04:23 PM (O7kBk)
Think of all the vets who've lost limbs. They're mentally defective?
You know who's a mental defective? The thin-skinned, wispy little bastard who's been occupying the Oval Office, in between tee times.
We're witnessing malignant narcissism in real time. Hold onto your butts, gang.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2016 04:26 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2016 04:27 PM (m7g25)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 28, 2016 04:27 PM (g9txO)
___
And arming drug cartels! Errr...not that I did that.
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 28, 2016 04:27 PM (X7E8f)
Posted by: My Cousin Donald's opening remarks at December 28, 2016 04:27 PM (Re/7S)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 28, 2016 04:28 PM (uBa68)
It only makes sense. A right that arises only under an imaginary "penumbra" should be much easier to take away than a natural right that's expressly acknowledged in the Bill of Rights.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2016 04:28 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:19 PM (dFi94)
No. Well, not *yet*. This is about expanding rules and lists for "mental incapacity". You have no idea how easy it is to get on those lists.
These rules change assumptions about PTSD treatments and people who have assistance in managing their affairs. It's not (yet) a blanket prohibition for those disabled and/or on assistance.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 28, 2016 04:28 PM (wB8Tg)
Good call.
Barry picked a group to establish a precedent.
He's a devious fuck.
Posted by: SD at December 28, 2016 04:28 PM (La5SJ)
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 04:28 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:28 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 04:28 PM (g9txO)
Posted by: Reggie L at December 28, 2016 04:29 PM (p0JMG)
Posted by: Killerdog at December 28, 2016 04:26 PM (r5sZn)
Reggie: He's really good at it too. No idea about the wookie and really don't care either
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 28, 2016 04:29 PM (493sH)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 28, 2016 04:29 PM (nl2r8)
#THISISHOWYOUGOTTRUMPSFOOTUPYOURASS
Posted by: fixerupper at December 28, 2016 04:29 PM (8XRCm)
Yes.
When you are so mentally defective that you are no longer responsible for your actions ......
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 04:29 PM (O7kBk)
Posted by: alexthechick - stupid ceiling tree rats at December 28, 2016 04:30 PM (mf5HN)
Mind you, this rule is still bullshit, but Supplemental Security Income is not Social Security Disability. There is some overlap but it's a different program.
Posted by: alexthechick - stupid ceiling tree rats at December 28, 2016 04:24 PM
I think the majority of disabled vets get both
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 04:30 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 28, 2016 04:30 PM (nl2r8)
He'll release all the thugs in Gitmo, and present Gitmo to the Cubans.
So tired. So very, very tired. January 20 seems years away.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2016 04:31 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 04:31 PM (8ReTf)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 28, 2016 04:31 PM (Mt8T4)
Posted by: alexthechick - stupid ceiling tree rats at December 28, 2016 04:30 PM (mf5HN)
I'm sure that they'll forget it's a thing soon enough.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 28, 2016 04:31 PM (FYrz1)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 04:31 PM (O7kBk)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at December 28, 2016 04:32 PM (ul9CR)
MSM Headlines:
"GOP killing Grandma & Grandpa"
"GOP lists 20% of Americans as Mental Defectives"
"GOP kills poverty stricken minorities"
Obama does this - crickets
Posted by: Only GOP girl in PDX at December 28, 2016 04:32 PM (3aBcq)
Posted by: Justice Ant'ny Kennedy at December 28, 2016 04:32 PM (97XyN)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 28, 2016 04:28 PM (wB8Tg)
That's the goal, though. Keep expanding those limitations, and eventually they become absolute and ironclad across the board.
Incrementalism is how these people work.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 28, 2016 04:33 PM (X52ZZ)
Posted by: L, Elle at December 28, 2016 04:10 PM (SgI6S)
IIRC, there was some SCOTUS case that said that regulations, once promulgated, couldn't just be revoked without a substantive reason.
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2016 04:31 PM (PY9jH)
I'm kind of enjoying this all in some sick way. It's like watching a disaster movie. Maybe I need medication.
Posted by: Max Power at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (q177U)
Ultimately, I'd suggest that the whole SSI program is unconstitutional.
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (gmeXX)
Banning certain citizens from owning guns actually helps the gun owning public. And here's how.
~ VOX
Posted by: fixerupper at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (8XRCm)
2) To sidetrack him from undoing other things like the ACA.
Will it work? I dunno.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at December 28, 2016 04:11 PM (ELUpj)
Get the auto pen up, program it for "EO # next in line is now void.
And 'accidentally' get it to drop in JFK's EO allowing for public workers to unionize.
"Whoops, but there were so many to be voided, especially in the last 3 months, that it was impossible for anyone to keep track of by hand so we had to automate and sometimes these things happen. President Trump will revisit it in the future but right now he is focusing on getting America working again, but we can look at reviewing this sometime down the road. Next question."
- President Trump's spokes person
Posted by: Bete: A Deplorable at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (Ojki1)
I think the majority of disabled vets get both
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 04:30 PM (lKyWE)
I believe so.
ThunderB is correct, this is a swipe at disabled vets.
IIRC, there was a push to say that anyone being prescribed medication for depression or anxiety or the like be reported as well. Which means that, hey, go to the VA for PTSD or, if you're me, go to the doctor and get a prescription for xanax as needed to help with panic attacks and BOOM you get flagged. That didn't get rammed through but I fully expect that will be one of the midnight regs as well.
Posted by: alexthechick - stupid ceiling tree rats at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 28, 2016 04:29 PM (nl2r
====================================
I expect one or two things per day. Does anyone remember when he first took office after the 2008 election? There was a new law, a new ruling, a new czar, a new program - every day for a couple of months. They kept everyone off balance by throwing something new out there constantly. I remember having a conversation about how hard it was for me to keep track of all the things he was throwing out there.
I think this is going to be like that.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:35 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at December 28, 2016 04:35 PM (+FSld)
Trump won't spend as much time on vaycays as Obama does, and I think he will take great relish in undoing as much of JEF's handywork as he can.
You know, these moves are doing nothing but pissing off Trump. I really don't think Trump is a man you want to piss off.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 28, 2016 04:35 PM (s7vJs)
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 28, 2016 04:35 PM (J8/9G)
THATS 'why all this' and 'why now'.
Just take a moment.
Imagine if all this were going on while we sat and waited 23 days for Hillary to be inaugurated.
The enemies lists. The purges.
That's why Ryan and his ilk can't be trusted.
Poor judgement. At best.
Collaboration at worst.
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at December 28, 2016 04:35 PM (toH8T)
Three times today on Facebook Ive pointed out "this is who Obama has been all along".
No return fire.
fascinating.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 28, 2016 04:36 PM (8XRCm)
The main tool of the agitator is chaos.
We are about to find out how much chaos this regime is capable of sowing on it's way out the door.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 28, 2016 04:36 PM (+lv+r)
Posted by: grammie winger
That's exactly what they want. Just like those people in Florida who were slaughtered in the gay bar.
We also need to start viewing "lone wolf" Muslim terrorists as the new normal.
I truly hate Obama, Secretariat of State Kerry, and the Beast.
Over Christmas, a Beast voter asked me if I thought that a person lacking in character like Trump, could be a successful President.
I was dumbfounded. Is there anyone out there retarded enough to think that The Beast has any character?
Of course it was easy for me to respond to that, given what pigs democratic presidents like JFK and Clinton were.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 28, 2016 04:36 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2016 04:36 PM (EZebt)
>>We are about to find out how much chaos this regime is capable of sowing on it's way out the door.
It's not like we weren't warned.
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 04:37 PM (g9txO)
http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/page5-13.html
This in no way makes this administrative action acceptable, of course.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 28, 2016 04:37 PM (u8kLQ)
It's a shame his guns were all lost in a tragic boating accident. I guess he'll never be able to purchase another one.
*sigh*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2016 04:37 PM (PY9jH)
And Blago.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at December 28, 2016 04:32 PM (ul9CR)
===========================
I'm thinking maybe not Blago. He's in for trying to sell Barack's state senate seat. If Obama was part of that transaction, he might want Blago to stay right where he is.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:37 PM (dFi94)
Me too. This is like the death rattle of the Democrat Party.
With the possible exception of what he did to Israel, everything he is doing now goes away pretty rapidly. But he is taking this opportunity to throw his Party under the bus to push as far left as possible.
Can't say I hate that.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2016 04:38 PM (/tuJf)
I'd like as many penalties as possible for the free shit army.
Posted by: Dimitri at December 28, 2016 04:38 PM (WrfKu)
IIRC, there was some SCOTUS case that said that regulations, once promulgated, couldn't just be revoked without a substantive reason.
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (vBeA5)
This case is different. The government cannot arbitrarily declare a large swath of the American public mentally defective
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 04:38 PM (lKyWE)
"Whoops, but there were so many to be voided, especially in the last 3 months, that it was impossible for anyone to keep track of by hand so we had to automate and sometimes these things happen. President Trump will revisit it in the future but right now he is focusing on getting America working again, but we can look at reviewing this sometime down the road. Next question."
- President Trump's spokes person
See my #47 for how quick Trump can undo 8 years of Obola's EO's.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 04:38 PM (O7kBk)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 28, 2016 04:39 PM (LNl8j)
And yet he has in the last few weeks and in the next few will be pardoning thousands of violent criminals.
but anyhow, I hope the Trump Admin is paying attention and will reverse this crap, assuming they will agree with us here (which is still unknown).
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2016 04:39 PM (ODxAs)
I'd like as many penalties as possible for the free shit army.
------------
And that's the rub.
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 04:39 PM (gmeXX)
131 What is the point of all these last minute orders and regs if Trump is just going to reverse them?
Posted by: L, Elle at December 28, 2016 04:10 PM (SgI6S)
IIRC, there was some SCOTUS case that said that regulations, once promulgated, couldn't just be revoked without a substantive reason.
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (vBeA5
BECAUSE
Works for me.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 28, 2016 04:39 PM (voOPb)
sell Barack's state senate seat. If Obama was part of that transaction,
he might want Blago to stay right where he is.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:37 PM (dFi94)
Now I'm drawing a complete blank. What's the name of the Chicago pal of Barry's who arranged the purchase of his house, who is in prison??
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2016 04:39 PM (PY9jH)
Utterly sure this SCOMAF doesn't care.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 28, 2016 04:40 PM (LNl8j)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2016 04:40 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (gmeXX)
Do you mean SSI or SSDI? The Supplemental Security program is not a part of Social Security but is paid out of general taxes.
The only reason I'm harping on this is because I had to learn the difference between SSI, SSDI, Medicare and Medicaid in order to be sure we paid the right amount of lien back to the right agency and, hmm, how to put this that won't get me a visit from the nice folks with the sunglasses and earpieces, hmm, I would not be unhappy should chupacabras eat all of the people involved with promulgating all of these regulations and running all of these programs. Shall we say.
Posted by: alexthechick - stupid ceiling tree rats at December 28, 2016 04:40 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 04:40 PM (g9txO)
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I don't know about this, but my response would be so what. That ruling has no bearing on Trump.
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 04:40 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2016 04:41 PM (PY9jH)
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The upshot...the vast majority of these violent criminals will likely be back behind bars before long.
The downshot...countless additional victims will be left in their wake.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at December 28, 2016 04:41 PM (+FSld)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2016 04:39 PM (PY9jH)
Tony Rezko
Posted by: fixerupper at December 28, 2016 04:41 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: steevy at December 28, 2016 04:41 PM (r/0kC)
Tony Rezco? Something like that.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 28, 2016 04:41 PM (97XyN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2016 04:42 PM (PY9jH)
Hitler declared mentally defectives had to be euthanized.
And the left has the balls to criticize Trump?
Posted by: quack quack at December 28, 2016 04:42 PM (7t5Rs)
Posted by: Evilpens at December 28, 2016 04:42 PM (y3aQB)
You're absolutely right my Queen.
I am sure the GOP leadership is hard at work even as I write this prepositioning new bills, preparing revisions of existing laws and crafting obtuse verbiage to counteract all of what they have previously gone along with for the last eight years.
I don't even know why I doubted them. Or didn't listen to your safe advice. Please accept these lemon bars as a token of my sincerity.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2016 04:42 PM (g+ibI)
The only reason I'm harping on this is because I had to learn the difference between SSI, SSDI, Medicare and Medicaid
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SSI - though I probably do not know the difference between SSI and SSDI.
With respect to my constitutional analysis, all 4 are unconstitutional.
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 04:42 PM (gmeXX)
Well, then.
The whole Democrat Party will have to surrender their guns.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 28, 2016 04:42 PM (4AVeu)
He'll release all the thugs in Gitmo, and present Gitmo to the Cubans.
So tired. So very, very tired. January 20 seems years away.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2016 04:31 PM (PY9jH)
Barry: Free Mumia! Just try and stop me racists.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 28, 2016 04:42 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2016 04:24 PM (J+eG2)
So ... bad news for EBT recipients, amirite?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2016 04:43 PM (SRKgf)
The Joker is a ficticious character.
This is all too real, with deadly real world consequences.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 28, 2016 04:43 PM (+lv+r)
So Ernie down at Civil Service Window 3 now gets to decide who is mentally unfit?
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:43 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: SOMESASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at December 28, 2016 04:43 PM (nQHw/)
Posted by: Cjw at December 28, 2016 04:44 PM (cJiNU)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 28, 2016 04:44 PM (Mt8T4)
If you say, lose an leg in an accident of some sort (cutting down a tree or whatever.)
And you qualify for SSI...they're going to label you as "mentally defective?"
How the fuck does that work?
(Assume for argument's sake that the disability in question is enough to qualify for SSI which is that it prevents you from doing "substantial gainful activity." Maybe it's 2 legs, point is it's physical.)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at December 28, 2016 04:44 PM (dzmBR)
Please send us more money. You like money, and so do we. See we are just like regular folks and share the same values. Vote for us and we promise to do nothing and live well off of your dime while doing nothing.
Posted by: The GOP at December 28, 2016 04:44 PM (xIBU4)
https://tinyurl.com/z78qgdf
Carrie Fisher's Mom Debbie Reynolds Hospitalized with Stroke
Posted by: Evilpens at December 28, 2016 04:42 PM (y3aQB)
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Aww geez. Poor woman.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:45 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (vBeA5
So appoint and get approved a couple of young conservative Justices, reverse that holding, and then go to town on regulations.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2016 04:45 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: King George III at December 28, 2016 04:45 PM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 04:45 PM (8ReTf)
How about for gang tats. Fewer SSI recipients would need guns if they weren't surrounded by barbarians.
Posted by: DaveA at December 28, 2016 04:45 PM (8J/Te)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2016 04:42 PM (g+ibI)
I'm not touching those.
Posted by: alexthechick - stupid ceiling tree rats at December 28, 2016 04:46 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (vBeA5
So appoint and get approved a couple of young conservative Justices, reverse that holding, and then go to town on regulations.
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How do we know the current Court would follow that case?
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 04:46 PM (gmeXX)
Would be interesting to try an no guns for people accepting any welfare rule. Just for fun, to see what the Lefties say.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2016 04:46 PM (ODxAs)
Why didn't I think of that at Lexington and Concord?
Posted by: King George III at December 28, 2016 04:45 PM (4AVeu)
Because you adhered to the rule of law far more than Barry ever did
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 28, 2016 04:46 PM (493sH)
178 The old rules were, at least in Wisconsin, that you were denied purchase of a firearm if you had been involuntarily committed to a mental health facility. If you checked yourself in for a short term depression, and left on medical approval, it's a non-event.
So Ernie down at Civil Service Window 3 now gets to decide who is mentally unfit?
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:43 PM (dFi94
Just another reason to lie to the bastards.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 28, 2016 04:46 PM (voOPb)
No, the Midnight Toker.
______________________
But he ain't got no pompatus of love.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 28, 2016 04:47 PM (4AVeu)
And this remote.
Delegation Doctrine, this lamp and this remote. That's all I want.
I laughed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 28, 2016 04:47 PM (LNl8j)
++++
That is false. Or, at least, it is only true for a subset of people.
The SSA also insisted that it was not stigmatizing those who receive disability insurance or SSI for mental health conditions, arguing that the names of the beneficiaries reported to NICS would not be made public. What the administration ignores is that it would stigmatize the entire category of beneficiaries subject to reporting.
That is, people who are receiving disability / SSI for mental health problems will be prohibited from owning guns. It is a matter for concern. However, for someone who is receiving disability / SSI as a result of a non-mental health illness, their 2nd amendment rights are unaffected.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 28, 2016 04:47 PM (R+30W)
Sweeping elimination of everything Obama ever did. Striking terror into the hearts of liberals everywhere.
All it takes is for our people to just say so. 50% + 1 and a presidential signature.
Time to show Harry Reid how it's done.
Fuck everybody, we're coming through.
Posted by: jwest at December 28, 2016 04:47 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 04:47 PM (8ReTf)
So it evens out.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 04:48 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 28, 2016 04:48 PM (nl2r8)
Posted by: DaveA at December 28, 2016 04:48 PM (8J/Te)
Posted by: alexthechick - stupid ceiling tree rats at December 28, 2016 04:46 PM (mf5HN)
I'm shocked. You make me sad.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2016 04:48 PM (g+ibI)
So trannys are not to be considered mentally defective but a disabled vet collecting SSI to help pay the family bills is.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 04:49 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 04:49 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Lord Sir x at December 28, 2016 04:49 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 28, 2016 04:49 PM (4AVeu)
Carrie Fisher's Mom Debbie Reynolds Hospitalized with Stroke
Posted by: Evilpens at December 28, 2016 04:42 PM (y3aQB)
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Aww geez. Poor woman.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:45 PM (dFi94)
Oh no. Oh that poor woman. I wondered if this might just be the straw that broke Debbie's back.
College boyfriend had a cousin who died of aggressive melanoma at age 20. He was the youngest child and his mother was utterly distraught. She died six days after his funeral and not a person in the family was surprised. Her husband said point blank that he expected her to die of a broken heart and she did.
Also a reminder, if you have that weird mole or thing on your arm that just doesn't look right, go get it checked.
Posted by: alexthechick - stupid ceiling tree rats at December 28, 2016 04:50 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 28, 2016 04:50 PM (nl2r8)
Someone is voluntarily making this sort of statement.
Personally, I think getting disability these days is a just a bullshit form of welfare.
Posted by: Dimitri at December 28, 2016 04:50 PM (WrfKu)
Had one on my neck. Turns out its my head.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2016 04:51 PM (4WhSY)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2016 04:45 PM (SRKgf
IIRC The Hat is uncharacteriscally wrong here. Regs (like laws) can be rescinded, but you'd have to go through the process to do it, which is unwieldy.
Now, reading the actual regulation it's....weird. It's not an automatic "you're on SSI you're out." it's saying they have to turn over names the SSA determined were mentally defective. But that's redundant no? After all, that finding would be actually made by someone else (i.e. a psychiatrist or court) who would have to report it anyway.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at December 28, 2016 04:51 PM (dzmBR)
Posted by: talgus da deplorable at December 28, 2016 04:51 PM (fJQAI)
Someone is voluntarily making this sort of statement.
Personally, I think getting disability these days is a just a bullshit form of welfare.
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Try taking away their voting rights.
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 04:51 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 28, 2016 04:52 PM (wB8Tg)
NONE!
They are not rights if that is the case.
We need to come to a definition of what a right is that we can all agree on. Maybe even write some sort of document stating those rights, so we can restrain the government from doing what government always does, which is to accrue power to itself at the expense of those governed.
Perhaps it is time to put these ideas to paper, if for no other reason than to petition our rulers for a redress of our grievances.
/sarc off
Rights can't be taken except by force. What happened?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2016 04:52 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: Fritz at December 28, 2016 04:52 PM (nrkHK)
Posted by: jwest at December 28, 2016 04:47 PM (Zs4uk)
And when I say fuck everybody, I mean everybody.
Early voting? Fuck no.
Voting by mail? Sorry Pal, that was in the old days.
Voting without ID? You've got to be kidding.
People voted on to the Supreme Court that will have liberals jumping off of buildings.
Mass firings at all government agencies.
Mass prosecutions at all government agencies.
Time to clean house.
Posted by: jwest at December 28, 2016 04:52 PM (Zs4uk)
I'm not puttin my lips on that.
Posted by: Ben from Full Throttle at December 28, 2016 04:52 PM (uBa68)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 04:53 PM (8ReTf)
Racist!
Posted by: The Fly who uses Barry's mole as a navigational aid at December 28, 2016 04:53 PM (TqmC9)
One of son's buddies went back and told them he couldn't stand how they made him feel, and he wanted off them, and just be able to talk to someone. He was told if he insisted on going off the meds, he could no longer come to the VA.
Both his friends killed themselves a couple of weeks apart.
I hate the VA with a white hot rage.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2016 04:54 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 04:54 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Darth Randall at December 28, 2016 04:54 PM (6n332)
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Can we also put in that document a statement that Congress shall have all legislative power and not the Executive Branch.
ATC may like that.
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 04:55 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: MOAB at December 28, 2016 04:55 PM (LAe3v)
Mine's actually a vole.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 28, 2016 04:55 PM (Mt8T4)
You need us!!
Posted by: The GOP at December 28, 2016 04:55 PM (xIBU4)
Posted by: t-bird at December 28, 2016 04:56 PM (29QcC)
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 28, 2016 04:56 PM (FtrY1)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 04:56 PM (QQ+il)
Someone is voluntarily making this sort of statement.
Personally, I think getting disability these days is a just a bullshit form of welfare.
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Try taking away their voting rights.
Posted by: SH
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We do in the case of felons. And we also don't allow them to purchase firearms in many cases.
I'm rabidly pro-2nd Amendment, mass shootings have nothing to do with gun control or assault weapons but everything to do with crazy people.
If someone is voluntarily saying "I'm crazy" and getting a check for it for life with a doctor agreeing with them, I'm not exactly jumping up and down to make sure they can buy guns.
This isn't just regular "disability" claims, it's mentally disabled.
Posted by: Dimitri at December 28, 2016 04:56 PM (WrfKu)
Posted by: mallfly the elder at December 28, 2016 04:56 PM (b7fwp)
I get the slippery slope angle, but if someone is specifically saying
they are so mentally incompetent they can no longer work for the rest of
their lives and we have to then take care of them, I have to say I kind
of support the idea that they lose some rights with that.
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If I'm understanding this correctly, SSI recipients are having their gun rights taken away, but not SSDI recipients. The difference between the two is one is means-tested, and the other is not. SSI benefits are based on income. SSDI acts more like Medicare, and is not based on income.
So poor people with chronic depression cannot own guns, but better-off people with chronic depression can. This doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:56 PM (dFi94)
Mine's actually a vole.
Are you sure it isn't some form of weasel?
Posted by: MOAB at December 28, 2016 04:56 PM (LAe3v)
Federal Appeals Court Revives Hillary Email Case Leaving Key Decision To Trump's Attorney General
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2016 04:56 PM (FQ0rq)
I questioned the mental stability of my vet when he said my dog's problem was that he was too fat.
That's what we're talking about, right?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2016 04:56 PM (ODxAs)
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Why would he need a gun. He'll always have the SS.
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 04:56 PM (gmeXX)
If Trump tried this it would be called an attempt to disenfranchise minority voters
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 04:57 PM (lKyWE)
So it is not simply the disabled, but the mentally disabled who cannot handle their own money. Either they are incompetent, too irresponsible, or too weak-willed to resist users. To get a rep payee takes a statement from a doctor saying the person needs one.
SSI- that is a program where qualification also requires financial need. A person must be low income and have under two thousand dollars in resources. If somebody qualifies for SSI they probably could not afford to buy a gun. But where theres a will...
Posted by: ex-gubmint at December 28, 2016 04:57 PM (hJdFN)
..............
Neighbor found one on her toe. Died 6 months later. I go twice a year to the derm and luckily have found only basal cell carcinomas.
Posted by: wth at December 28, 2016 04:57 PM (HgMAr)
We should all just put this on a macro to save time.
Posted by: pep at December 28, 2016 04:58 PM (LAe3v)
As a Vet on SSDI with a degenerative disease . I hate this. Time at the range when I can go is all I have left. If I ever lose cognition or become demented (I pray for this not to happen) then I should not be able to own firearms not yet though. Fuck the jef.
Posted by: USNtakim at December 28, 2016 04:58 PM (hMqvx)
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You kidding? HE SHOOTS SKEET ALL THE TIME YOU GUYS
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 04:58 PM (8ReTf)
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I'm not really disagreeing with you, but pointing out the same logic would hold for allowing them to vote - they are incompetent - and noticing that the people who are ok with taking away 2nd A rights are probably not ok with taking away voting rights.
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 04:58 PM (gmeXX)
for life with a doctor agreeing with them, I'm not exactly jumping up
and down to make sure they can buy guns.
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You might want to learn more about the legal definition of "crazy" and stop using it to describe people with various mental health disorders.
I have a mental health disorder. I am no crazier then Mis Hum.
Perhaps I should use a different example.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:59 PM (dFi94)
Not the question.
I wonder if he's just trying to push some vet over the edge so that they'll FINALLY have the shooting incident they've been praying for.
Posted by: t-bird at December 28, 2016 04:59 PM (29QcC)
Why ram this through though? You're talking about a subset of people so remarkably small, who probably were already excluded anyway.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at December 28, 2016 04:59 PM (dzmBR)
Posted by: ThunderB at December 28, 2016 04:50 PM (nl2r
Oh, oh. Boom goes a Hollywood trope: the mass shooting by a nutzo veteran.
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 28, 2016 04:59 PM (J8/9G)
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 04:59 PM (dFi94)
Which pisses Mooch off because she doesn't know how to cook them.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2016 04:59 PM (4WhSY)
Posted by: ex-gubmint at December 28, 2016 04:57 PM (hJdFN)
Word.
Posted by: Millions of Gangstas Everywhere at December 28, 2016 05:00 PM (g+ibI)
...then you're not crazy. It's all the people who check "No" that we gotta look out for!
Posted by: Catch-22 at December 28, 2016 05:00 PM (ZIFyZ)
Posted by: steevy at December 28, 2016 05:00 PM (r/0kC)
remarkably small, who probably were already excluded anyway.
Precedent and propaganda.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2016 05:00 PM (4WhSY)
If you have a parent or child or loved one for or suffer through any trauma, you will get PTSD on some level of the spectrum.
If read and been told that technically everybody will get PTSD at some point of their lives falling on different areas of the spectrum.
Which is why bull shit like that should not be a reason to grab guns.
Posted by: Pepe at December 28, 2016 05:01 PM (xIBU4)
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 28, 2016 05:01 PM (J8/9G)
Posted by: Mary S. at December 28, 2016 05:01 PM (mvmHh)
Posted by: DaveA at December 28, 2016 05:01 PM (8J/Te)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 28, 2016 05:02 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: mallfly the elder at December 28, 2016 05:02 PM (b7fwp)
What kind of standard is that?
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 28, 2016 05:01 PM (J8/9G)
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I know. I was going to say AtC, but I knew she'd hurt me.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 05:03 PM (dFi94)
I have a mental health disorder. I am no crazier then Mis Hum.
Perhaps I should use a different example.
Posted by: grammie winger
Do you get a disability check for your mental disability?
That is the key, it's not people who say took something for their depression.
Could it go there? With additional laws it could, it's all up to our Supreme Court.
But we're basically now admitting large swaths of these people actually are mentally competent, they just don't want to work anymore. And that we shouldn't take their guns because they are lying about being mentally incompetent.
Posted by: Dimitri at December 28, 2016 05:03 PM (WrfKu)
Posted by: mallfly the elder at December 28, 2016 05:03 PM (b7fwp)
Yes, from the regs:
"we have "adjudicated as a mental defective" any individual who meets the criteria [Below]"
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at December 28, 2016 05:03 PM (dzmBR)
Posted by: mallfly the elder at December 28, 2016 05:04 PM (b7fwp)
So it is not simply the disabled, but the mentally disabled who cannot handle their own money. Either they are incompetent, too irresponsible, or too weak-willed to resist users.
So they can't vote either, correct?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 05:04 PM (O7kBk)
Consider sending a short e-mai to the Israeli consulate to express your support for Israell and that Obama's action do not have the support of the majority of Americans:
Email: consular@washington.mfa.gov.il
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 28, 2016 05:05 PM (tOcW/)
And here I thought I was a right wing gun nut.
Posted by: Dimitri at December 28, 2016 05:05 PM (WrfKu)
Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2016 05:05 PM (5sOEp)
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2016 05:05 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 05:04 PM (O7kBk)
In MI, IL and PA, they vote twice
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2016 05:06 PM (g+ibI)
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 05:03 PM (dFi94)
It's Fenelon you need to worry about.
You of all people should know that.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 28, 2016 05:06 PM (SJQXF)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 05:06 PM (8ReTf)
If you have a parent or child or loved one for or suffer through any trauma, you will get PTSD on some level of the spectrum.
If read and been told that technically everybody will get PTSD at some point of their lives falling on different areas of the spectrum.
Which is why bull shit like that should not be a reason to grab guns.
Posted by: Pepe at December 28, 2016 05:01 PM (xIBU4)
As defined by diagnostic criteria, PTSD is NOT a spectrum type disorder, but one that has a threshold.
You can have some symptoms associated with PTSD, but without the full scope of symptoms, you are not diagnosed with the condition.
Now, if you want to say there are some diagnoses being thrown around like candy by some providers, then yes, PTSD is one of those types of conditions that is diagnosed more than it should, by people who are licensed, but not qualified to do so.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 28, 2016 05:07 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: mallfly the elder at December 28, 2016 05:07 PM (b7fwp)
I'm a mental defective - where's my benefits?
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2016 05:05 PM (Sfs6o)
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Look under the mattress in your padded cell. That's where I
keep mine. And don't take my pudding.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 05:07 PM (dFi94)
The reason why this is a horrible move by Obama is right there in your statement. Obama is attempting to make law and restrict a fundament right of all citizens by himself and not through the legislative process.
It doesn't matter how you feel about it, feelings is not law, and Obama shouldn't be creating law on his own. If he can, another President can make whatever law he wants restricting basic rights on his or her own.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2016 05:07 PM (/tuJf)
regulations, once promulgated, couldn't just be revoked without a
substantive reason.
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (vBeA5)
All the more reason for Congress to start dismantling the agencies that promulgate this shit.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 28, 2016 05:07 PM (8iiMU)
++++
Post selfies on facebook with I'm sorry signs
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 05:07 PM (8ReTf)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at December 28, 2016 05:03 PM (dzmBR)
Sure, and who decides what constitutes mental impairment? the folks who make up the DSMIV or whatever number they are up to now? The ones that created some "oppositional disorder" to describe those who don't take to authority by nature, specifically with conservatives in mind?
No way that could go bad.
Mental defectives, deplorables, irredeemable...sigh.
We're sure using some interesting language lately.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2016 05:08 PM (kKHcp)
keep mine. And don't take my pudding.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 05:07 PM (dFi94)
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Pudding?
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2016 05:08 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 05:04 PM (O7kBk)
You said a funny.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 28, 2016 05:08 PM (TOk1P)
Vee haff a Solution for you.
Vhat is old ist new, nicht war?!
Posted by: zombie eichmann at December 28, 2016 05:08 PM (jpW6t)
How do you feel about letting them elect our representatives?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 05:09 PM (O7kBk)
I don't have Facebook. Is there something you consider wrong with sending an e-mail to the Israeli consulate?.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 28, 2016 05:09 PM (tOcW/)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 05:09 PM (QQ+il)
Second, the regulation does NOT say that everyone getting SSI is mentally defective. It deals with people who are getting SSI because they have been found to be mentally defective and are receiving SSI for that reason.
It may be a bad regulation for several reasons, but it is not as idiotic as has been made out. If you don't believe me, follow the links back to the actual regulation.
Posted by: JeffM at December 28, 2016 05:10 PM (Jj+/s)
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2016 05:10 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 05:09 PM (QQ+il)
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No - Friday is pie.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 05:10 PM (dFi94)
There are 5 Criteria listed below, and as I noted, most of them would have already landed you on the NICS system it seems, which is what makes this all confusing.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at December 28, 2016 05:10 PM (dzmBR)
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2016 05:10 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 05:11 PM (8ReTf)
It matters what the words say in whatever the govt does, but that is secondary to Lefties. They always have a hidden agenda.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2016 05:11 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 05:11 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at December 28, 2016 04:59 PM (dzmBR)
I would guess this is a foot in the door to set a precedent for future administrations and gun control as a benefit qualification.
Generalizing covers too many people but, people who have payees are the people who will drive you nuts. Before some of them got one they blew their money on beer and cigarettes for themselves and their buddies, then demand government action when the landlord starts eviction for not paying rent. Some of these people will burn through a couple rep payees a year because they keep demanding money from them. Which is to say, they are as widely varied as any other group of people. Bitch mode- off.
Posted by: ex-gubmint at December 28, 2016 05:11 PM (hJdFN)
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I wish there was a school house rock video about how "law" is actually made.
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 05:11 PM (gmeXX)
We're sure using some interesting language lately.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2016 05:08 PM (kKHcp)
Yes we are. The DSM (V, by the way) is not designed to be used by amateurs. It's a tool for mental health providers, to diagnose patients.
If it's being used by the government to classify people, well... this is why equating everyone to Hitler is such an evil tool, because in circumstances like this, when the government is doing just that, behaving like Nazis, it rings hollow.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 28, 2016 05:11 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 28, 2016 05:02 PM (TOk1P)
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Yes, but they are using that term because it is already the term used in existing law.
From Obama's new reg:
421.105 Definitions of terms used in this part.
For the purposes of this part:
Adjudicated as a mental defective, in accordance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(4),
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2016-12-19/pdf/2016-30407.pdf
And, if you look up that particular law, you get:
(d) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person-
[...]
(4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution;
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 28, 2016 05:11 PM (R+30W)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 05:12 PM (8ReTf)
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2016 05:12 PM (Sfs6o)
Never eat the government pudding!!
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 05:12 PM (lKyWE)
This is leading me to think ghost rifle is the only way to go.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 28, 2016 05:12 PM (97XyN)
Posted by: Lauren at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (3y414)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Kidney Pie at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (QQ+il)
If it was a joke, I'm sorry that i didn't get it. Since many people here don't use Facebook and think it's a waste of time, I was thinking it was a critique of Facebook.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (tOcW/)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (8ReTf)
remember TABLE TALK pies?
Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (uBa68)
regulations, once promulgated, couldn't just be revoked without a
substantive reason.
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 28, 2016 04:34 PM (vBeA5)
"Because it's total bullshit" is substantive enough for me.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (SJQXF)
She must have read Ace's Obituary.
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (g9txO)
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We should start a band.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Kidney Pie at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (uBa68)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 05:14 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2016 04:46 PM (ODxAs)
Forget the guns. How about no voting? To hell with whatever amendment put paid to the poll tax. If you don't contribute, you don't get a say in how contributions are spent.
Seems only fair.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2016 05:14 PM (SRKgf)
Adjudicated - by a judge and court?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 05:14 PM (O7kBk)
How you may ask? We will do nothing while the other party does it. We will then lie during reelection time promising to do something. Take more money and do nothing.
Isn't that what you rubes really want in an oppositional party?
Posted by: The GOP at December 28, 2016 05:14 PM (xIBU4)
Posted by: Lena Dunham on the Shitter at December 28, 2016 05:14 PM (g9txO)
Has that been done for people impacted by this regulation?
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at December 28, 2016 05:14 PM (2qjVe)
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2016 05:15 PM (Sfs6o)
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Just until he is 5.
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 05:15 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 05:15 PM (O7kBk)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2016 05:15 PM (ODxAs)
So individuals who are unable to support themselves are mentally defective?
When do we get to the part about surrendering their
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2016 04:24 PM (J+eG2)
Or do their perceived intentions cast sufficient penumbras and perturbations that suitably sensitive folks of the (D) persuasion can discern their intentions and vote for them?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Irredeemable Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2016 05:15 PM (BK3ZS)
An AR based on an 80% lower receiver, thereby avoiding a serial number. Perfectly legal, BTW.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 28, 2016 05:15 PM (97XyN)
Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2016 05:15 PM (5sOEp)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 05:15 PM (8ReTf)
Came to what? It is really difficult to know sometimes if people are joking or not. Since i think Michelle Obama posting on Facebook "Let Our Girls go" is a waste of time and a Pretentious "Look at me" action I thought you were perhaps suggesting that sending a e-mail of support to the Israeli was equivalent to Facebook "sad faces.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 28, 2016 05:16 PM (tOcW/)
Posted by: Jason Biggs at December 28, 2016 05:16 PM (g9txO)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 05:16 PM (8ReTf)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 05:17 PM (QQ+il)
Well the DSM was never intended to be used the way it's been used since about edition 4.
1-3 were primarily attempts to describe broadly diagnostic possibilities with significant prudence left up to the provider (i.e. doc).
IV started to go a bit nuts with specificity and categories that were a bit strong, V is off it's fucking rocker and might as well be a Web MD script the way it's being used.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at December 28, 2016 05:17 PM (dzmBR)
We should start a band.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (dFi94)
An American band that comes into your town an helps you party down
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 05:17 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2016 05:17 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2016 05:17 PM (4WhSY)
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 05:18 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: JeffM at December 28, 2016 05:10 PM (Jj+/s)
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You are right that it is not an EO. However, you are wrong to call a regulation a law. It is not.
And while it is true that Trump will not be able to use an EO of his own to overturn a regulation, there are other things that can be done. First, the agency itself can go through the process to issue a new reg overturning the previous reg. Also, Congress can overturn them as well.
My prediction is that with a Republican House / Senate / President, many of these last minute regs are going to get overturned pretty quickly.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 28, 2016 05:18 PM (R+30W)
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Adjudicated - by a judge and court?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 05:14 PM (O7kBk)
Yeah, sorry law people, that's some f**ked up shit right there. Adjudicated.
You have no business "adjudicating" somebody's mental defectiveness.
None. No government has any business in this business, ESPECIALLY when you use phrases like "mental defective."
And secondly, what is "any" mental institution? And what do you mean by "has been committed?"
Which lawyer came up with that phrase?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 28, 2016 05:18 PM (TOk1P)
I've never understood that. Meat is better than pudding.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 28, 2016 05:18 PM (mgbwf)
Coconut creme pie was a big favorite on Gilligan's Island. Lots of coconuts I guess.
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2016 05:17 PM (Sfs6o)
Im guessing Ginger provided the milk for the cream.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 05:19 PM (lKyWE)
An AR based on an 80% lower receiver, thereby avoiding a serial number. Perfectly legal, BTW.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 28, 2016 05:15 PM (97XyN)
Provided you never sell it. That would be illegal.
Then again, so is jaywalking.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2016 05:19 PM (kKHcp)
When Bush got RE elected the lefties all posted selfies on facebook with I'm sorry signs so that the world would know or whatever. Doing so now would serve two purposes at least and be in the language of derision and hubris that lefties understand
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 05:19 PM (8ReTf)
Tastykake Lemon Pie.
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 28, 2016 05:19 PM (J8/9G)
Or Trump could tell the agency to ignore the regulation. I'm pretty sure there is a precedent for that.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2016 05:19 PM (/tuJf)
Well yes. Though one gets you a ticket, the other gets you 20 in the slam.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 05:19 PM (QQ+il)
Lovey is a font of milk.
Granted, it's powdered.
Posted by: Thurston Howell III at December 28, 2016 05:20 PM (g9txO)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at December 28, 2016 05:17 PM (dzmBR)
Disagree.
It's a fine tool. Used badly by the ill trained, but that's not the tool's fault.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 28, 2016 05:20 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: the extremely deplorable and very racist, sexist, bigotted and homophobic james at December 28, 2016 05:20 PM (jxw6R)
Or Trump could tell the agency to ignore the regulation. I'm pretty sure there is a precedent for that.
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Or he could just issue an order that all regulations are repealed.
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 05:20 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 05:17 PM (lKyWE)
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Those are the very best kind. Son is getting married in June. They are having a string quartet for the ceremony. I am trying to help him see the wisdom of having string quartet 70's and 80's music. For some reason they want Vivaldi and Mozart. The fun potential is dropping rapidly.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 05:20 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Skeptical Voter at December 28, 2016 05:21 PM (Sda6L)
I don't see how it's any better, if the object is to own a weapon that isn't tracked by the government.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 28, 2016 05:21 PM (97XyN)
Wants to buy a gun when he is 18. Oopsie. Sorry he can't. Mental illness diagnosed by a man hating feminist teacher.
Haven't heard about schools creating SWOT's on each student for their permanent file? You will when they try and buy a gun or when they try and pursue a career outside what we have outlined for them beginning in Pre K.
Please send us your money so we can continue look amazing doing nothing while lying to you about doing something.
Posted by: The GOP, doing nothing but making dat $$$$ at December 28, 2016 05:21 PM (xIBU4)
I've never understood that. Meat is better than pudding.
See? There ya go, just being another brick in the wall.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2016 05:22 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Bill Cosby at December 28, 2016 05:22 PM (h3zAH)
Paint It Black is a great wedding song for a string quartet.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 05:22 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Skeptical Voter
You insult me sir. I demand satisfaction.
Posted by: Moose at December 28, 2016 05:22 PM (LAe3v)
I wonder, hard would it be for Trump to get this overturned?
Posted by: willy at December 28, 2016 05:22 PM (Ffw22)
I stumbled across a channel last night called GunTV. Anybody else heard of it or watched it?
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 28, 2016 05:22 PM (SJQXF)
Posted by: Raspail at December 28, 2016 05:22 PM (kQJUi)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 28, 2016 05:20 PM (TOk1P)
If it's subject to ideological manipulation, how much deference will it deserve? Ideology is ruining so much else, after all.
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 28, 2016 05:23 PM (J8/9G)
Posted by: grammie winger
I've never cared much for Wolfgang, but my appreciation of Vivaldi has been on the upswing. Give him a chance. He's got some mad beatz.
Posted by: Moose at December 28, 2016 05:24 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 05:24 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Raspail at December 28, 2016 05:24 PM (kQJUi)
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 05:24 PM (g9txO)
You there! Yes, you, laddy! Stand still!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 28, 2016 05:24 PM (lMveo)
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Because it's not that kind of pudding. Think Yorkshire or Christmas not chocolate and butterscotch.
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 05:24 PM (8ReTf)
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 05:24 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 05:22 PM (QQ+il)
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Yes - I found some Stones music, some Guns and Roses, some Metallica, also of course the Beatles and bands along those lines. I'm going to see if I can impose my will. At least one song. I gave birth to him, I should get a song.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 05:25 PM (dFi94)
No; I don't see the doctor for a few weeks. Thanks for asking. I did read about brother Cavil's dad and I posted a message. I hope that he say it. He definitely knows that people here are praying for him.
Someday i hope to figure out (with Ace's permission) how to do a website connected with Ace of Spades so that people can put prayer requests but I'm not good with sort of thing-designing a website.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 28, 2016 05:25 PM (tOcW/)
- Shit Hamilton Said, Vol I
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 05:25 PM (g9txO)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 05:25 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: pep at December 28, 2016 05:25 PM (LAe3v)
Who'm I kidding?
Posted by: willy at December 28, 2016 05:25 PM (Ffw22)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 28, 2016 05:18 PM (R+30W)
I may have misunderstood you but a 'regulation' that is codified is in fact a law and you can be fined, have license or a certificate revoked or even jailed for violation. For example: all those "federal aviation regulations" in 14 CFR parts 21, 23, 25...etc.
Failure to follow posted signs and placards, or instructions from the flight crew in a commercial airplane will get you fined or jailed depending on the transgression and the circumstances.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2016 05:25 PM (g+ibI)
Trump could just issue a counter regulation.
But what he should do is announce a total regulation review and update, by which I mean kill half of them. There are so many at this point that they probably cancel each other out anyway.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2016 05:25 PM (ODxAs)
The Cure's - 'Just Like Heaven' would make a really nice String Quartet / Wedding Tune.
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 05:26 PM (g9txO)
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No one can hear the speech for all the cheering
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 05:26 PM (8ReTf)
Also, we will do nothing when little Joey was put on ADD or ADHD medication in order to attend school because gun grabbing Marxist teacher said it was the only way he could attend class.
Wants to buy a gun when he is 18. Oopsie. Sorry he can't. Mental illness diagnosed by a man hating feminist teacher.
Yeah, I'm thinking that G'pa Krebs might get in the education establishment's grill if it comes to pass that g'son is offered up to the medical zombie protocols once he starts going to school.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Irredeemable Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2016 05:26 PM (BK3ZS)
I don't see how it's any better, if the object is to own a weapon that isn't tracked by the government.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 28, 2016 05:21 PM (97XyN)
But! BUT!! The ghost gun is AWESOME! I want one of these!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmFEv6BHM0
Can your gun do that?!? I think not.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2016 05:26 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 28, 2016 05:26 PM (hJrjt)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 28, 2016 05:27 PM (mgbwf)
Handel is moving to the top of the charts with a bullet.
Posted by: pep at December 28, 2016 05:27 PM (LAe3v)
I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes
I have to turn my head until my darkness goes
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 05:27 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 05:19 PM (lKyWE)
They get the crust while Mrs. Howell is sleeping.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 28, 2016 05:27 PM (8ZskC)
Billy Idol, White Wedding
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 05:27 PM (lKyWE)
I don't know.
I really wanted Horse/Man babies.
...does he have a Sister?
Posted by: Andrew mendoza at December 28, 2016 05:27 PM (g9txO)
Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2016 05:28 PM (5sOEp)
And you are right about folks that do abuse disability. It's hard to find a job when in your 50s and the unemployment runs out. I think most of these folks would rather work.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 28, 2016 05:28 PM (Lqy/e)
It's a fine tool. Used badly by the ill trained, but that's not the tool's fault.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 28, 2016 05:20 PM (TOk1P)
In my defense, I've been irritated by the entire field of psychiatry of late. At some point they just said "fuck it" and left the entirety of anything not purely pharmacological to psychology, which IMHO hinders the integrated care necessary for mental health.
To that end, I think this is why the DSM-V tends to be over interpreted by them (psychiatrists) as a nearly mathematical document. (Or a better descriptor may be any other disease treatise with hard and fast symptoms.)
Granted Kubler-Ross warned of this EXACT problem in "On Death and Dying" noting that we were choosing scientists to be the next generation of doctors not clinicians. Nobody listened though.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at December 28, 2016 05:28 PM (dzmBR)
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 05:20 PM (gmeXX)
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Nope. Executive Orders and agency regulations are not the same. Agencies have the authority to promulgate regulations based on the law. For instance, instead of Congress defining an acceptable level of every single kind of pollutant in the water or air, or whatever, they will give the EPA or whatever agency directions to go through the process of determining the appropriate levels based on safety, cost, etc. The EPA will go through the process laid out in the law to come up with the regulations. Once those regs are in place, the President can't just come along and order them changed. If there is reason for a change, the agency has to go through the process of issuing revised regs.
Of course, the president can fire the head of the EPA and put in someone who will run the agency more to his liking, but it takes more than a pen and a phone.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 28, 2016 05:28 PM (R+30W)
Posted by: willy at December 28, 2016 05:28 PM (Ffw22)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 28, 2016 05:25 PM (tOcW/)
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Ya, me too. That's beyond me. Make sure you let us know when you get results. And please make sure you don't over-do it.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 05:28 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Bigbys other phone at December 28, 2016 05:28 PM (8ReTf)
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Back in the day, I'd become chemically enhanced then go to the music library which had a huge selection of Vivaldi recordings complete with scores and learn.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 28, 2016 05:29 PM (Nwg0u)
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I read my copy of the Constitution differently.
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 05:29 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 28, 2016 05:29 PM (uBa68)
It makes the 1970's Soviet Union seem tame the direction this country is free falling.
Don't comply with your betters, then you are mentally ill. Believe too much governemnt is bad, then you are mentally ill. Believe and have proof/evidence that two or morr people would seecrey plot to make money or harm another party. then you are mentally ill.
Diagnosed with a phobia. Mental illness. Disagree with a "doctor, teacher, or therapist, lawyer, or any agent of the state", then that's right folks, mentally ill.
Posted by: Pepe at December 28, 2016 05:29 PM (xIBU4)
Better: That guy talks like a fag and his shit's all retarded.
Posted by: pep at December 28, 2016 05:30 PM (LAe3v)
has been in the works for well over a year. Consequently, it is law and
cannot quickly be reversed.
Second, the regulation does NOT say that everyone getting SSI is
mentally defective. It deals with people who are getting SSI because
they have been found to be mentally defective and are receiving SSI for
that reason.
It may be a bad regulation for several reasons, but it is not as
idiotic as has been made out. If you don't believe me, follow the links
back to the actual regulation.
.
.
.
.It's not a law, it's a regulation that was determined by the Head of the SSA. There is a tremendous difference. Regulations can be cancelled or simply ignored once they are published in the Federal Register by the Head of whatever Agency made them. Enforcement or lack thereof of various Immigration regulations are a good example. Laws can only be "made" by Congress and they most certainly did not make this one.
They did punt on their duties by allowing various Secretaries and Department heads to make what can amount to laws without any oversight, but that is an argument for a different day.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 28, 2016 05:30 PM (icl5y)
Posted by: Regular joe at December 28, 2016 05:30 PM (ROIz5)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 28, 2016 05:30 PM (QQ+il)
She must have read Ace's Obituary.
Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2016 05:13 PM (g9txO)
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I'm so going to hell.
Posted by: SMFH at December 28, 2016 05:30 PM (CRotO)
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2016 05:30 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: pep at December 28, 2016 05:27 PM (LAe3v)
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Really. Huh.
Posted by: grammie winger at December 28, 2016 05:31 PM (dFi94)
Of course, the president can fire the head of the EPA and put in someone who will run the agency more to his liking, but it takes more than a pen and a phone.
* note to DJT *
"Order up several gross of Louisville Sluggers"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Irredeemable Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2016 05:31 PM (BK3ZS)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 28, 2016 05:31 PM (kTF2Z)
I don't see how it's any better, if the object is to own a weapon that isn't tracked by the government.
#1. Ibuy a gun thru a gun store. Eventually I sell it to you.
You use it to commit a crime and stoopidly drop it at the scene.
The feds come to me via the serial number. I roll on you in a heartbeat.
#2. You buy an unfinished 80% lower with no serial number.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 28, 2016 05:32 PM (O7kBk)
Hi Lisa,
Sorry for the inconvenience and wait, my name is Elise and I'm a part of the Trust and Safety team. Your emails were escalated to me, I've taken a look at your fundraiser and cleared it so that we can go ahead and disburse your funds to you. I did want to let you know though that due to both company and bank holidays this week, we are not sending out disbursements this week, but you are cleared for next week's disbursement cycle! You'll receive an automated email from us once your funds have been sent (generally this happens later in the week after after the Trust and Safety, engineering, and accounting teams have reviewed all campaigns up for disbursement and processed those disbursements). After that email it generally takes 3-5 business days for the funds to be available in your bank account.
Best,
Elise
Trust and Safety
Posted by: SMFH at December 28, 2016 05:32 PM (CRotO)
Posted by: Fritz at December 28, 2016 05:33 PM (nrkHK)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 28, 2016 05:33 PM (Nwg0u)
Mental Defective
Sounds like a term that the Nazis and other Eugenicists used.
Congratulations. You are are correct! A lot of the 1968 Gun Control Act was cribbed from Nazi Era German Gun Control Laws.
http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/GCA_68.htm
Posted by: rd at December 28, 2016 05:34 PM (iT57s)
Posted by: SH at December 28, 2016 05:29 PM (gmeXX)
Hahahahaha! Constitution. Our rules to government, 9 pages total.
Governments rules to us--Fills libraries.
Sorry, I'm feeling a little cynical today, what with the lawlessness on display, and the inability to do shit about it.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2016 05:34 PM (kKHcp)
Once those regs are in place, the President can't just come along and order them changed. If there is reason for a change, the agency has to go through the process of issuing revised regs.
Didn't Obama use an EOto reverse a regulation that prevented U.S. funds from be used to provide birth control to foreign countries?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 28, 2016 05:34 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: USNtakim at December 28, 2016 05:35 PM (hMqvx)
Posted by: Fritz at December 28, 2016 05:33 PM (nrkHK)
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I don't see the problem.
Posted by: Fuckstick at December 28, 2016 05:35 PM (CRotO)
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2016 05:35 PM (Sfs6o)
https://youtu.be/cUEiMQfSrZw
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 28, 2016 05:35 PM (lMveo)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 28, 2016 05:18 PM (R+30W)
I may have misunderstood you but a 'regulation' that is codified is in fact a law and you can be fined, have license or a certificate revoked or even jailed for violation. For example: all those "federal aviation regulations" in 14 CFR parts 21, 23, 25...etc.
Failure to follow posted signs and placards, or instructions from the flight crew in a commercial airplane will get you fined or jailed depending on the transgression and the circumstances.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2016 05:25 PM (g+ibI)
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Congress passes laws, agencies promulgate regulations based on the authority given them by those laws. Congress can also make it either a civil or criminal offense to violate the regulations that an agency has put forth.
You might see it as a distinction without a difference, but laws have to go through a specific process to be passed (or overturned), while there is a different process when it comes to regulations. They are not the same.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 28, 2016 05:35 PM (R+30W)
Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at December 28, 2016 05:38 PM (nQ10o)
Yeah, in that case a ghost gun is certainly better.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 28, 2016 05:38 PM (97XyN)
Posted by: USNtakim at December 28, 2016 05:38 PM (hMqvx)
Posted by: Fuckstick at December 28, 2016 05:39 PM (CRotO)
Posted by: Fuckstick at December 28, 2016 05:39 PM (CRotO)
Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at December 28, 2016 05:38 PM (nQ10o)
An optimist?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2016 05:39 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: SMFH at December 28, 2016 05:40 PM (CRotO)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 28, 2016 05:35 PM (R+30W)
The result is/can be though.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2016 05:40 PM (g+ibI)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 28, 2016 05:41 PM (g+ibI)
Posted by: Weasel at December 28, 2016 05:12 PM
What do you know, you're a weasel!
The best are custard, butterscotch and chocolate.
Posted by: Farmer at December 28, 2016 06:46 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: Raspail at December 28, 2016 05:22 PM
FIFY
Posted by: Farmer at December 28, 2016 06:56 PM (o/90i)
These include having a diagnosis which pertains to mental, emotional or personality disorders, having one's eligibility to receive benefits being based on such a disorder or being at least a determining factor, being between the ages of 18 and "full retirement", AND have their benefits paid to a "representative payee".
Thus, the beneficiary must have a documented mental condition which would render them ineligible to own a firearm under current NICS regulations, AND be incapacitated enough that they are incapable of managing their own financial affairs.
I am not saying that it is a *good* thing that the feds are restricting gun ownership, but it isn't as random and far-reaching as the headlines would suggest.
Posted by: Big Twits at December 28, 2016 07:06 PM (yayMn)
01/20/17
Subject: Executive Order #1
Content: Effective immediately, ALL Executive Orders, Presidentially Directed Regulatory Orders and all and sundry, Acts, Regulations, Directives, Guidelines and all other such actions not approved by Congress shall be considered, null, void and non-actionable.
Donald J. Trump
President, United States of America
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 28, 2016 07:07 PM (Kucy5)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 28, 2016 07:09 PM (Kucy5)
Executive Orders are not. Amending or rescinding those from previous administrations is a commonplace thing.
Obama revoked a number of Bush's EO in March 2009
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 28, 2016 07:45 PM (di1hb)
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