Monday Overnight Open Thread (12/19/16)


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On this day in 1998, President William Clinton is impeached.
After nearly 14 hours of debate, the House of Representatives approves two articles of impeachment against President Bill Clinton, charging him with lying under oath to a federal grand jury and obstructing justice. Clinton, the second president in American history to be impeached, vowed to finish his term.

He did finish his second term. But, his wife will never be POTUS. And that's alright with The ONT.


Quotes Of The Day

Quote I

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana

Quote II

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchil

Quote III

Under socialism all will govern in turn and will soon become accustomed to no one governing. Vladimir Lenin

What a crock of shit, Vlad.

Quote IV

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. Margaret Thatcher

Venezuela is going to hell in a hand-basket. Thank you Socialists. Lessons to be learned from Venezuela's collapse.

First, Socialism never works. From Korea, Russia, Africa, to Latin America, it has never worked. But people keep wanting it. Venezuela has had a bad decade with their socialist experiment and within the last year the final domino has fallen. Their economy is in meltdown. When the price of oil plummeted, Venezuela could no longer afford their socialist programs and the state-controlled industries failed.

The second bad idea is an economic “solution” that has always failed: Venezuela kept printing money so they could pay for everything their socialist experiment demanded. Of course, Venezuela went the way of every other country that has tried devaluing their currency—hyperinflation has completely wrecked the economy. Venezuela’s currency inflated so fast that they couldn’t afford to buy more paper and ink to print more.


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Hey look, mister, we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast and we don’t need any characters around to give the joint atmosphere. Is that clear or do I have to slip you my left for a convincer?

My how times have changed. Look young man, we serve pansy ass drinks in here for men and transmen who want to sip their drinks. Buttery Nipple my ass.


Clarence, George names of the past. Popular baby names over the past 100+ years. Funny, Misanthropic was never a contender.


Don't care to cater a gay wedding? Why that's homophobic. Refusing to photograph a gay wedding? Why that's illegal! Religious beliefs be damned.


But, refusing service based upon political beliefs? That appears to be just fine and dandy. And it's just not the swanky upper class punishing people because of their political beliefs. It's also occurring in every day necessities of life.

Marc Jacobs, who has also dressed — you guessed it — Michelle Obama, wants nothing to do with Melania:

I have no interest whatsoever in dressing Melania Trump. I didn’t see [Sophie Theallet’s] letter. Personally, I’d rather put my energy into helping out those who will be hurt by [Donald] Trump and his supporters.”

Tonight's Musical Interlude



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Play ground changes. The death of the see-saw.


“Federal safety guidelines for playgrounds, which were created in 1981, began to limit their use. The older seesaws were wooden planks that often hit asphalt directly, leading to occasional tailbone and spinal injuries, falls and pinched fingers, not to mention splinters. Children could slam each other by dismounting suddenly. Playgrounds that retained old seesaws were exposed to lawsuits.”
And yet, there is real value to children who play on a seesaw. “Seesaws are excellent at encouraging collaborative play and patience, as they require coordination and balance between two different children to work. Core upper body strength and lower body strength are developed as a child moves the seesaw up and down,” the folks at School Outfitters explain. Kids can gain essential understanding of the mechanics of fulcrums by playing on a seesaw, as How Things Work author David Macaulay has noted. And Stephen Wills, the author of Power through Collaboration loves what a seesaw can teach.


Fat, stupid and lazy is no way to go through life. Did the ONT mention Fat & Stupid is no way to go through life? Genius Award Winner. NSFW


What could have been a terrible tragedy. Was not. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day


Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Cuteness.

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Posted with permission by AceCorp, LLC. The ONT has been a dramatization. Professional Cob on a closed course. Do not attempt.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 09:51 PM




Comments

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1 First woman commenter!!!

Posted by: Hillary! at December 19, 2016 09:47 PM (ZAlOu)

2 Hola!

Posted by: fixerupper at December 19, 2016 09:50 PM (JmjOe)

3 Go away, Hillary.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 09:50 PM (6gk0M)

4 first non affirmative action commenter

Posted by: JEM at December 19, 2016 09:50 PM (PRJyD)

5 The top selling car...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 19, 2016 09:50 PM (C9pBZ)

6 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 19, 2016 09:50 PM (bV6Ah)

7 Good evening! That FAB will never be president!

Posted by: April at December 19, 2016 09:51 PM (e8PP1)

8 Did I hear correctly that Billy Jeff Clinton cast his vote today as an elector from the state of Arkiansas?

And took the opportunity to blame James Comey for Hillary's loss at the polls?

Or was I imagining things?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 19, 2016 09:52 PM (wPiJc)

9 Top ten

Posted by: ALH at December 19, 2016 09:52 PM (FRIIR)

10 NINE!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 09:52 PM (6gk0M)

11 Sonofa...

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 09:52 PM (6gk0M)

12 cute

Posted by: SMFH at December 19, 2016 09:52 PM (CRotO)

13 ONT needs moar kittehs.

Posted by: Basement Cat at December 19, 2016 09:52 PM (3C9q2)

14 It's so hard to tell satire from reality now a days.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 19, 2016 09:53 PM (SjImc)

15 Personally, I'd rather put my energy into helping out those who will be hurt by [Donald] Trump and his supporters.

By designing burqas?

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 09:53 PM (HwVbl)

16 GLOAT GLOAT GLOAT!

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 09:53 PM (tHwdc)

17 The guy who lit off the fireworks while wearing them? Theres also a video of him tasering himself in the face.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 19, 2016 09:53 PM (JmjOe)

18 I suppose that pic of Bubba is marginally better than a photo of the JEF playing golf today.

Posted by: Basement Cat at December 19, 2016 09:54 PM (3C9q2)

19 17 The guy who lit off the fireworks while wearing them? Theres also a video of him tasering himself in the face.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 19, 2016 09:53 PM (JmjOe)

Methinks he might have issues.

I am not a psychiatrist or anything...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 09:54 PM (92kX2)

20 Yeah, Big Willie was an elector. Just like SanFranNan's kid.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 19, 2016 09:55 PM (C9pBZ)

21 17 The guy who lit off the fireworks while wearing them? Theres also a video of him tasering himself in the face.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 19, 2016 09:53 PM (JmjOe)

I'm going to take a wild guess & say there's no Mrs. Guy Who Lit Off Fireworks While Wearing Them.

Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 09:55 PM (7qAYi)

22 A quick check shows that I must have misheard something- as Arkansas cast its six electoral votes for DJT.

Maybe Clinton was commenting on the occasion of the electoral vote.

Oh well, need more coffee or something.

We return you to your regular ONT programming.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 19, 2016 09:55 PM (wPiJc)

23 Damn, but Bubba aged like a tomato left to dry out in the sun.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 09:55 PM (92kX2)

24 No Democrat since Michael Dukakis received fewer Electoral votes than Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (1JnAL)

25 18 I suppose that pic of Bubba is marginally better than a photo of the JEF playing golf today.
Posted by: Basement Cat at December 19, 2016 09:54 PM (3C9q2

Keys to the blog. Magic wand. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (voOPb)

26 I'm going to take a wild guess & say there's no Mrs. Guy Who Lit Off Fireworks While Wearing Them.
Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 09:55 PM (7qAYi)

Who do you think strapped the fireworks on him?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (92kX2)

27 I think Bill Clinton was an elector for NY.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (39g3+)

28 Glenn Beck is appearing on Samantha B this evening.

Take me now, Lord. I'm ready.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (Nwg0u)

29 The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money.

Margaret Thatcher


I never liked this quote. Yes, it's concise and cute and catchy ... but incorrect at its core. Churchill pretty much nailed it correctly.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (zc3Db)

30 First woman commenter!!!
Posted by: Hillary! at December 19, 2016 09:47

And first woman nominated by a major party to lose an election. Hooray!

Posted by: Farmer at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (o/90i)

31 that last picture gives me hope. pretty sure that kid doesn't know obama or hillary and doesn't care.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (KP5rU)

32 I'm not real impressed by the way Moochelle was dressed by her designers.

Melania Trump was a model and still looks like one and she can do better than wearing upholstery fabric and a boob belt.

Posted by: ALH at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (FRIIR)

33 Ah, now I have it. He was an elector in NY state, not in Arkansas. Duh.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (wPiJc)

34 26 I'm going to take a wild guess & say there's no Mrs. Guy Who Lit Off Fireworks While Wearing Them.
Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 09:55 PM (7qAYi)

Who do you think strapped the fireworks on him?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (92kX2)

The same guy holding his beer, of course.

Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (7qAYi)

35 Genius Award Winner. NSFW

I think it's ok to laugh, because at the very end he goes, "Did you get that?"

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 09:57 PM (9Q5BJ)

36 WTFITS?

Buttery Nipple?
Brain Hemorrhage?

Fuck that.

Old Fashioned, Manhattan, White Russian, Gin and Tonic, Martini. Those are manly drinks.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 09:57 PM (FYrz1)

37 Tyke looks like he's ready to move up to a Smart Car.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 09:57 PM (tHwdc)

38 Billy was an elector from NY...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 19, 2016 09:57 PM (C9pBZ)

39 Is it just me or does Calvin Klein look like Nancy Pelosi with short hair?

Posted by: Titanium at December 19, 2016 09:57 PM (u9UgT)

40 Misanthropic Humanitarian, very nice ONT. And I love your disclaimer. So cool!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 19, 2016 09:58 PM (u82oZ)

41 Good evening! That FAB will never be president!

Hey wait, who is the FAB?

That's Hillary Clinton?

That's not funny!!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at December 19, 2016 09:58 PM (S6Pax)

42 'Lo, 'rons....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 19, 2016 09:58 PM (EzgxV)

43 "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana

History repeats, whether people remember the past or not.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 19, 2016 09:58 PM (zc3Db)

44 Marc Jacobs, who has also dressed - you guessed it - Michelle Obama

I would hire Marc Jacobs. My cats scratched the hell out of one of my couches and it needs the Michelle treatment.

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 09:58 PM (9Q5BJ)

45 And while I'm at it, baby with Christmas tree on top of his car wins the entire Intertoobs!

Posted by: Muldoon at December 19, 2016 09:59 PM (wPiJc)

46 36,
Indeed. Four or more ingredients, chick drink.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 19, 2016 09:59 PM (C9pBZ)

47 Bring back seesaws, more government overreaching

Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 19, 2016 09:59 PM (BS8yt)

48 Fireworks vest

Meh, it could work.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 09:59 PM (ZBp8/)

49 Melania Trump was a model and still looks like one and she can do better than wearing upholstery fabric and a boob belt.
Posted by: ALH

Melania Trump will have no problem with clothiers and designers making things for her to wear.

The silly, pouting madness of the Leftists is illuminating in its childishness.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....Grate American cheese again! at December 19, 2016 09:59 PM (S6Pax)

50 "Glenn Beck is appearing on Samantha B this evening.
Take me now, Lord. I'm ready.
"
-Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (Nwg0u)

Stick around. The conservatives hat Trump has appointed should make the show worthwhile.

I've given-up on defending Glenn Beck.

...not that the bullshit stories weren't Fake News, but he's so Anti-Trump that I need to fall-off that particular bandwagon.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 09:59 PM (6gk0M)

51 My hope is that as a result of this election more and more conservatives start to realize who we are up against. The left are not our friends and cannot be reasoned with.

Posted by: James the worst of the deplorable at December 19, 2016 10:00 PM (jxw6R)

52 I thought they should have seesaws with steel coils under seats for extra fun.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:00 PM (ZBp8/)

53 Who do you think strapped the fireworks on him?

Some guiltless soul actually applied the tape that held the fireworks to his back.

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 10:00 PM (/wWB4)

54 27: yes, he was. conflict of interest anyone? fuck that syphillis ridden cancer of mankind. with a flaming, razor wire, wrapped pineapple sideways.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 10:00 PM (KP5rU)

55 Firecracker guy: WHY????????

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM (tHwdc)

56 32 I'm not real impressed by the way Moochelle was dressed by her designers.

Melania Trump was a model and still looks like one and she can do better than wearing upholstery fabric and a boob belt.
Posted by: ALH at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (FRIIR)

I am not into the fashion, but I have seen women knock me dead by wearing this or that dress. Even with the... difficulties inherent in Michelle's... physique, you'd think they could find a way to dress her to make her look at least pretty. She comes across like a linebacker in a dress made of couch material.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM (92kX2)

57 You know, I couldn't pick beck out of a lineup.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM (C9pBZ)

58 The thing with booze is that people don't drink to get drunk any more, they drink to get laid. So all the stupid names like sex on the beach and screaming orgasm. So you can order one and feel sexy and flirty while just being stupid and humiliated.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM (39g3+)

59 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM (IcT7t)

60 so is anyone around here a manhattan afficionado?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM (cPsPa)

61 Beck was praising Samantha Bee last week and it was the Final Straw.

...blinders are blinders.

Myopia is simply myopia.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM (6gk0M)

62 Posted by: ALH at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (FRIIR)
I'm willing to bet milania doesn't own any boob belts.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:02 PM (Q5Ymk)

63 You gave us another cool map, MisHum! Thank you. That name thing was fascinating. Funny, my name never showed up either.

Posted by: bluebell at December 19, 2016 10:02 PM (sBOL1)

64 https://youtu.be/ejeSL2uwE2w


Mr No Mrs. Guy Who Lit Off Fireworks While Wearing Them has a montage

Posted by: fixerupper at December 19, 2016 10:03 PM (JmjOe)

65 60,
Sort of. Grew up on the lower East Side.

Wait, what?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 19, 2016 10:03 PM (C9pBZ)

66 Why would Melania even want to wear anything by those designers who dressed Mooch? I highly doubt that Melania wants to look like a tablecloth.

Posted by: Titanium at December 19, 2016 10:03 PM (u9UgT)

67 60 so is anyone around here a manhattan afficionado?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM (cPsPa)

I won't say "afficionado" but I enjoy them.

Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 10:03 PM (7qAYi)

68 51 My hope is that as a result of this election more and more conservatives start to realize who we are up against. The left are not our friends and cannot be reasoned with.
Posted by: James the worst of the deplorable at December 19, 2016 10:00 PM (jxw6R)

--------

Less "my friends across the aisle" and more "these bastards need to be crushed".

Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 19, 2016 10:03 PM (BS8yt)

69 "Refusing to photograph a gay wedding? Why that's illegal!"

This isn't anything like Revelations' prophecy of "forbidding to buy and sell," and anyone who says so is a homophobe.

Posted by: Faith Spotted Eagle at December 19, 2016 10:03 PM (fYFz4)

70 I used to think Michelle's designers were laughing at her behind her back by dressing her like a sofa at Bob's Big Barn of Furniture. Do you think they really made her look like that on purpose?

Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:03 PM (dFi94)

71 Hillary? Hillary, honey, come here.

Sit next to me.

We can haz vodka together.

Posted by: Geraldine Ferraro at December 19, 2016 10:03 PM (044Fx)

72 so is anyone around here a manhattan afficionado?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM (cPsPa)


I like them. I tend to go heavy on the vermouth, however, which a lot of people don't like.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 10:03 PM (FYrz1)

73 58 The thing with booze is that people don't drink to get drunk any more, they drink to get laid. So all the stupid names like sex on the beach and screaming orgasm. So you can order one and feel sexy and flirty while just being stupid and humiliated.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM (39g3+)

Um, I don't know about you, but in college I most certainly was going out to drink in order to get laid. If I missed out on the latter (often), well I always had the former.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:03 PM (92kX2)

74 Hillary always reminded me of a well-explained joke.

Posted by: OurFederalism at December 19, 2016 10:04 PM (48KEb)

75 "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana, Day 1
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana, Day 2
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana, Day 3

Posted by: VA MKZ at December 19, 2016 10:04 PM (htupJ)

76 so is anyone around here a manhattan afficionado?

You've made a fine choice... Twelve dollars, no refunds!

Posted by: The Manhattan Indians at December 19, 2016 10:04 PM (ysprU)

77 Beck was praising Samantha Bee last week and it was the Final Straw.

...blinders are blinders.

Myopia is simply myopia.
Posted by: Slapweasel


Or he's a manic-depressive who tried to self-medicate for years.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:04 PM (ZBp8/)

78
I'm willing to bet milania doesn't own any boob belts.

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Am I the only one picturing her wearing a belt as a top?

Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 10:04 PM (7qAYi)

79 I have no interest whatsoever in dressing Melania Trump. I didn't see [Sophie Theallet's] letter. Personally, I'd rather put my energy into helping out those who will be hurt by [Donald] Trump and his supporters.

Good. Go dress the Chinese. Bon Voyagee, doubchebag.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 19, 2016 10:05 PM (zc3Db)

80 I mean, she can't help it if she's built like Ditka, but the belts and the cropped jackets and the upholstery fabric. I think I saw maybe two pictures of her in 8 years where I said, Oh - she looks pretty in that.

Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:05 PM (dFi94)

81 Hey look, mister, we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast and we don't need any characters around to give the joint atmosphere. Is that clear or do I have to slip you my left for a convincer?

*sniff*. Yes you are clear, I will not be bothering you with my "atmosphere" any more.

Posted by: Jason Biggs at December 19, 2016 10:06 PM (rH4JY)

82 "Or he's a manic-depressive who tried to self-medicate for years."
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:04 PM (ZBp8/)

I'll buy that.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 10:06 PM (6gk0M)

83 69 "Refusing to photograph a gay wedding? Why that's illegal!"

This isn't anything like Revelations' prophecy of "forbidding to buy and sell," and anyone who says so is a homophobe.
Posted by: Faith Spotted Eagle at December 19, 2016 10:03 PM (fYFz4)

And that the rainbow flag has the magic number of six colors, not the seven that the rainbow actually has.

Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 10:06 PM (7qAYi)

84 Or he's a manic-depressive who tried to self-medicate for years.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:04 PM (ZBp8/)

The sad thing is, he seems to fall off the wagon (whatever his particular wagon is these days) and then goes crazy, but his baseline seems to keep getting pushed down.

There was a time (HLN days) when he seemed somewhat rational and cogent.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:06 PM (92kX2)

85 Personally, I'd rather put my energy into helping out those who will be hurt by [Donald] Trump and his supporters.
***
The 1%ers do pay well don't they?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 19, 2016 10:06 PM (aZq03)

86 78,
Two words: thermal bandages.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 19, 2016 10:06 PM (C9pBZ)

87 Hey all white guys, want MTV to chastise, I mean, suggest some New Years Resolutions for you?

http://tinyurl.com/z2ypk23

As you can expect, all those condescending pricks in that short video are racist, Millennial jerk-offs.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 19, 2016 10:06 PM (0sc5d)

88 Wonderful collection of links, MisHum -- thank you for all you do.


Now, off to chase them -- squirrel!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 19, 2016 10:06 PM (EzgxV)

89 Socialism is parasitism and eventually kills its host.

Posted by: Grimmy at December 19, 2016 10:07 PM (m+qrc)

90 I think I saw maybe two pictures of her in 8 years where I said, Oh - she looks pretty in that.



Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:05 PM (dFi94)
And that was after how many drinks?

Posted by: Titanium at December 19, 2016 10:07 PM (u9UgT)

91 Maybe we can persuade Melania to go all Sue Ellen Mischke

Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 19, 2016 10:07 PM (BS8yt)

92 78. Heh. Skirt.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:07 PM (d0XHp)

93 Colorado Alex In Exile, josephistan,




do y'all have favorite ingredients, especially for rye and vermouth?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:07 PM (cPsPa)

94 This is mean but when I was a cocktail waitress, one bartender always tried to guess who ordered the white russian or kahlua and cream. It was more often than not the bigger girls.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:08 PM (Q5Ymk)

95 >>>Hillary always reminded me of a well-explained joke.


Posted by: OurFederalism at December 19, 2016 10:04 PM (48KEb)<<<

And I'm a botched joke.

Posted by: Secretariat of State John Kerry at December 19, 2016 10:08 PM (ZAlOu)

96 Socialism: crude but ineffective, short but pointless--and makes for a government that couldn't get chicken to taste like chicken.

Posted by: OurFederalism at December 19, 2016 10:09 PM (48KEb)

97 The final humiliation hit Hillary. Sure wouldn't wantoto be an ashtray, lamp, glass, book, ...around her today.

Posted by: jukin Former Republican at December 19, 2016 10:09 PM (pEmk1)

98
So who is it that will be 'hurt' by Trump?

Posted by: Willie Wonte at December 19, 2016 10:09 PM (rXaut)

99 Personally, I'd rather put my energy into helping out those who will be hurt by [Donald] Trump and his supporters.
=============================



Oh look at me! I can be pretentious and altruistic all at the same time!


He won't do a darn thing to help anybody, who's he trying to kid?

Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:09 PM (dFi94)

100 mooch was never pretty. ugly on the inside, hideous on the outside. you can't fight fashion.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 10:09 PM (KP5rU)

101 They ain't doin' no impeachin' on Pedo Island, baby! WOOOOOOOO!! Awesome down here!!!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 19, 2016 10:09 PM (qJhUV)

102 Hey everybody. I've been dying to share this for the last two hours... below is a link to the Hollywood Reporter, linking to the all-time most awkward video interview EVER with a celebrity, in this case legendary comedian Jerry Lewis. None of his responses are more than 5 words long.

Seems the young video crew couldn't be bothered to listen to Jerry (who was already cranky) when they were setting up the shoot in his home in Las Vegas, and Jerry decided to reciprocate when the cameras were rolling.

On top of that, the interviewer (a) asks a ton of *dumb* questions he would have already known the answers to, and how to follow up on, if he had just read Lewis' Wiki page and had a bit of respect for him; and when Jerry gets nervous, the interviewer nervously resorts to asking a ton of simple "yes or no" questions, which Jerry never fails to answer with just "yes" or "no." LOL.

Alls I knows is, I love it. Hey genius? When a legend asks you to do something to *make his interview more comfortable,* LISTEN and DO IT. Geezaloo.

http://tinyurl.com/jhcyqvt

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:09 PM (u8kLQ)

103 "The older seesaws were wooden planks that often hit asphalt directly, leading to occasional tailbone and spinal injuries, falls and pinched fingers, not to mention splinters. Children could slam each other by dismounting suddenly."

ITS FUNNY BECAUSE TRYING TO GET THE OTHER PERSON TO SLAM DOWN WAS THE POINT.

Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at December 19, 2016 10:10 PM (Ojki1)

104 Yankeefifth,

Mine is Bulliet Rye, Martini and Rossi Sweet Vermouth, and Angostura Bitters. 2:1 ratio of Rye to Vermouth with three dashes of bitters.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 10:10 PM (FYrz1)

105 Cocktails.About.com...

Drinks every Bartender Should Know:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/7sn4l8v

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 10:10 PM (6gk0M)

106 And that was after how many drinks?


Posted by: Titanium at December 19, 2016 10:07 PM (u9UgT)
=====================

I'm trying to think. Might have been eleventy.

Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:10 PM (dFi94)

107 Mine is Bulliet Rye, Martini and Rossi Sweet Vermouth, and Angostura Bitters. 2:1 ratio of Rye to Vermouth with three dashes of bitters.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 10:10 PM (FYrz1)




Thanks

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:10 PM (cPsPa)

108 Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:03 PM (dFi94)
I think a simpler explanation is they all hated her.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:11 PM (Q5Ymk)

109 Not sure if I have ever seen a mooch outfit that was complimentary. You would think with all that money they could do something. But then look at Hitlary's wardrobe. Sheesh.

Posted by: Infidel at December 19, 2016 10:11 PM (a62hT)

110 Mine is Bulliet Rye, Martini and Rossi Sweet Vermouth, and Angostura Bitters. 2:1 ratio of Rye to Vermouth with three dashes of bitters.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 10:10 PM (FYrz1)




I was going to say "Thanks!" but thought it seemed gay and assumed you would understand the sincere appreciation.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:11 PM (cPsPa)

111 103 "The older seesaws were wooden planks that often hit asphalt directly, leading to occasional tailbone and spinal injuries, falls and pinched fingers, not to mention splinters. Children could slam each other by dismounting suddenly."

ITS FUNNY BECAUSE TRYING TO GET THE OTHER PERSON TO SLAM DOWN WAS THE POINT.
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at December 19, 2016 10:10 PM (Ojki1)

So you know my cousin then?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 19, 2016 10:11 PM (voOPb)

112 Wait, a 'bomb pop shot' shot is a manly drink?

My rule is simple, if you cannot imagine Charleton Heston, Winston Churchill or Frank Sinatra drinking it, it is not a manly drink.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:11 PM (92kX2)

113 Sing at Trump's inauguration, get blacklisted.

http://tinyurl.com/hlzplyw

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 19, 2016 10:11 PM (J8/9G)

114 96. I think it was PJ O'Rourke who said the fact that cigars were rationed in Cuba and that you couldn't get Chicken Kiev in Kiev told you all you needed to know about socialism.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:11 PM (d0XHp)

115 Oops, that is to say, Jerry makes the interviewer nervous, who then asks a lot of yes or no questions.

Dang lack of a preview function!! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:12 PM (u8kLQ)

116 Drinks every Bartender Should Know:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/7sn4l8v
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 10:10 PM (6gk0M)




good site

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:12 PM (cPsPa)

117 >>mooch was never pretty. ugly on the inside, hideous on the outside. you can't fight fashion.


Sure.


But, I don't think any First Lady will ever touch her Career Rebounding Numbers.

Posted by: garrett at December 19, 2016 10:12 PM (BrHGq)

118 So who is it that will be 'hurt' by Trump?

Posted by: Willie Wonte

John Podesta
David Axelrod
Bill DeBlasio
Hillary Rodham Clinton
LeBron James
The staff at CNN
Everybody at MSNBC
Jerry Brown

And many, many more.....

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....Grate American cheese again! at December 19, 2016 10:13 PM (S6Pax)

119 The real problem with socialism is that inevitably one has to deal with a great number of people who simply will not be enslaved...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 19, 2016 10:13 PM (kP16F)

120 Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at December 19, 2016 10:10 PM (Ojki1)
I hated that. That was the whole point though.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:13 PM (Q5Ymk)

121 Celebs, ready to leave Earth? We can accommodate!

Posted by: Space X at December 19, 2016 10:13 PM (+kwUl)

122 Posted by: Infidel at December 19, 2016 10:11 PM (a62hT)
=====================================


I remember this one dress - I think it was cobalt blue with black - I thought it was pretty on her, and her hair looked good that day. She was also minus the Resting Bitch Face, which improved her looks tremendously.

Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:13 PM (dFi94)

123 117; she is kinda like sir charles in his prime.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 10:14 PM (KP5rU)

124 If fat dumb and stupid is no way to go in life then how come I'm going to the inauguration to protest Drumph

Posted by: Michael More at December 19, 2016 10:14 PM (Lh0b8)

125 The real shame of Venezuela:

Totally. Predictable.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 19, 2016 10:14 PM (EZebt)

126 36 Old Fashioned, Manhattan, White Russian, Gin and Tonic, Martini. Those are manly drinks.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 09:57 PM (FYrz1)


One of these things is not like the others
One of these things doesn't belong
I blame Lebowski

Posted by: Splunge at December 19, 2016 10:14 PM (iMxBJ)

127 Hillary always reminded me of a well-explained joke.

Really disappointed Ben Roethlisberger didn't take a shot at this one.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016 10:14 PM (IcT7t)

128 Yankeefifth - old overholt and rossi. I mix half sweet, half dry, on the vermouth.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:14 PM (d0XHp)

129 So who is it that will be 'hurt' by Trump?

Apparently there are people who can't dress themselves.

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 10:14 PM (8zL5i)

130 Steve,
That interview is hilarious.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:15 PM (Q5Ymk)

131 Trump now has the electoral votes, and some Hillary electors defected to Sanders. BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:15 PM (0mRoj)

132 Yankeefifth - old overholt and rossi. I mix half sweet, half dry, on the vermouth.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:14 PM (d0XHp)




Thanks

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:15 PM (cPsPa)

133 so is anyone around here a manhattan afficionado?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:01

My FIL was for yrs. He's since switched to bourbon and a splash of water as he's mellowed.

Posted by: Farmer at December 19, 2016 10:15 PM (o/90i)

134 What was up with the bobbers? I've never seen one in the wild. The only person I've ever seen wearing a boob belt was mooch.

Posted by: James the worst of the deplorable at December 19, 2016 10:15 PM (jxw6R)

135 The real problem with socialism is that inevitably one has to deal with a great number of people who simply will not be enslaved...

Which is the reason I always say that Socialism always works, as long as you're willing to kill enough people.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016 10:15 PM (IcT7t)

136 So you can order one and feel sexy and flirty while just being stupid and humiliated.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM (39g3+)


So you . . . So you do know about my past love life.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (9MInk)

137 Socialism is parasitism and eventually kills its host.

Posted by: Grimmy


*****


So basically you could say that socialism fails even as a parasite.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (wPiJc)

138 123 117; she is kinda like sir charles in his prime.

Turrible, turrible, turrible

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (voOPb)

139 Old Fashioned, Manhattan, White Russian, Gin and Tonic, Martini. Those are manly drinks.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 09:57 PM (FYrz1)

Whiskey. Neat.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (0mRoj)

140 Another search with Manhattans and whiskey:

I prefer Bushmill's, but you already knew that.

I've never had a Manhattan, by the way.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (6gk0M)

141 On one of the morning threads, I noted that today is the anniversary of physicist Albert Michelson, which is only notable in that such folk inspired Muldoon's ancients:

There was a young lady named Bright,
Whose speed was far faster than light,
She set out one day
In a relative way
And returned the previous night.

- Arthur Buller (1874-1944) ("Relativity," in Punch, London, 19 December 1923)



Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (ZO497)

142 Rum and Coke.



**and a long straw**

Posted by: a T-Rex tring to rub one out have a drink at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (ZAlOu)

143 Sing at Trump's inauguration, get blacklisted.



http://tinyurl.com/hlzplyw

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 19, 2016 10:11 PM (J8/9G)
==================

Oh, I love Bocelli. Come on people - grow up. Let the man sing, for pete's sake. Does every single thing have to have a grievance attached to it now?

Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (dFi94)

144 But, I don't think any First Lady will ever touch her Career Rebounding Numbers.
Posted by: garrett at December 19, 2016 10:12 PM (BrHGq)

We have never seen her and Dennis Rodman in the same place at the same time, have we?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (92kX2)

145 60 so is anyone around here a manhattan afficionado?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM (cPsPa)


It's a really good drink, especially if you stick to Rye. But it is a maddening drink, because it gives the feeling that it could be perfect, if only you got everything just right, and I never have.

What kind of Vermouth do you use?

Posted by: Splunge at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (iMxBJ)

146 I was going to say "Thanks!" but thought it seemed gay and assumed you would understand the sincere appreciation.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:11 PM (cPsPa)


No worries. You're welcome. Feel free to cut back on the vermouth. I believe that the standard ratio is 4:1 whiskey to vermouth, but I like mine a little sweeter.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (FYrz1)

147 Went to a party with a dork friend. We go to pick up some booze.

I just grab a 12 pack of Sam Adams. He's insists on buying that Butter liquor. "No, no, it's coo'. E'rryone will like it," Mr. Bartender he.

I went back to the host's house 10 years later. Still had a 3/4 full bottle of that shit.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (ZBp8/)

148 Marc Jacobs, who has also dressed -- you guessed it -- Michelle Obama, wants nothing to do with Melania:

Bwahaha. I knew it as I was looking it up - he's gay.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 19, 2016 10:17 PM (rH4JY)

149 And many, many more.....

Don't forget us.
...forget us
...us
...don't
...forget us

Posted by: Martin Sheen, Mike Farrell and the rest of The Star's of the '80s and '90s at December 19, 2016 10:17 PM (qJhUV)

150 Cali, yup. Thanks.

It's doubtful but if I'm ever something of a "name" director/writer and I'm not happy with what I know about the person interviewing me (such as Jeffrey Wells), I hope I would have the balls to do what Lewis did there.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:17 PM (u8kLQ)

151 Glenn Beck with Trump is no different than Charles Johnson was with the Tea Party. Beck sees Trump as bad and therefore its all bad and horrible no matter what. Johnson saw the Tea Party as bad and horrible just because Glenn Beck supported it, and it didn't matter that it was focused on taxes and the size of government. That Jesus Freak Beck liked it so therefore its awful. No different than Beck with Trump.

Posted by: buzzion at December 19, 2016 10:17 PM (z/Ubi)

152 I prefer Bushmill's, but you already knew that.

I've never had a Manhattan, by the way.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (6gk0M)




yep. Thanks.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:17 PM (cPsPa)

153 From Korea, Russia, Africa, to Latin America, it has never worked. But people keep wanting it.

People keep wanting it because liberals and democrats promote a politics of envy.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2016 10:17 PM (+lVUW)

154 Whiskey. Neat.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (0mRoj)


I've given advice to a few young folks that they should find a brand of whiskey that they can drink neat or on the rocks. If nothing else, it's a good go-to when other options are limited.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 10:18 PM (FYrz1)

155 The real shame of Venezuela:

Totally. Predictable.


Totally Preventable. Sitting on that much oil? Man, they should swimming in success.

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 10:18 PM (8zL5i)

156 148 Marc Jacobs, who has also dressed -- you guessed it -- Michelle Obama, wants nothing to do with Melania:

Bwahaha. I knew it as I was looking it up - he's gay.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 19, 2016 10:17 PM (rH4JY)

The Great Kreskin better watch out! You are the prognosticator of prognosticators.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:18 PM (92kX2)

157 154 Whiskey. Neat.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (0mRoj)

I've given advice to a few young folks that they should find a brand of whiskey that they can drink neat or on the rocks. If nothing else, it's a good go-to when other options are limited.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 10:18 PM (FYrz1)

Absolutely, and there's no shortage of good whiskey these days.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:18 PM (0mRoj)

158 You're quite welcome, Good Sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 10:19 PM (6gk0M)

159 134. I think the idea was to create the illusion of a higher waist, thereby crwaing better visual balance between her shoulders and hips.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:19 PM (d0XHp)

160 Put me in the Manhatten column

Posted by: tmitsss at December 19, 2016 10:19 PM (xlzu7)

161 Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:17 PM (u8kLQ)
I think if we make it to our 90's and are still working, I think none of us would GAF.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:19 PM (Q5Ymk)

162 I think Bill Clinton was an elector for NY.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 19, 2016 09:56 PM (39g3+)

Did Energizer Bunny make cookies for the NY electors?

Once a carpetbagger, always a carpetbagger.

Evening all.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 19, 2016 10:19 PM (D2vc1)

163 60 so is anyone around here a manhattan afficionado?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM


NEW YORK CITY ????????

Posted by: Often Heard In Texas at December 19, 2016 10:19 PM (DMUuz)

164 It's a really good drink, especially if you stick to Rye. But it is a maddening drink, because it gives the feeling that it could be perfect, if only you got everything just right, and I never have.

What kind of Vermouth do you use?
Posted by: Splunge at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (iMxBJ)




Oh I don't really make them. I am sending a business associate, who is addicted to manhattans, a kit for Christmas. Rye, Vermouth, and Bitters. He can get his own damn cherries.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:19 PM (cPsPa)

165 Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:13 PM (dFi94)



http://preview.tinyurl.com/jt9zzcu


maybe this?

Posted by: Infidel at December 19, 2016 10:19 PM (a62hT)

166 Oh, I love Bocelli. Come on people - grow up. Let the man sing, for pete's sake. Does every single thing have to have a grievance attached to it now?

Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (dFi94) fnord (dFi94)


I wanna know where you've been living the last 40 years and move there.

But yeah, there's a kind of acceleration of BS grievances since the Age of Social Media started (really before, but bigger acceleration).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 19, 2016 10:20 PM (wB8Tg)

167 159 134. I think the idea was to create the illusion of a higher waist, thereby crwaing better visual balance between her shoulders and hips.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:19 PM (d0XHp)

Just made her look like an inverted goblet with upholstery.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:20 PM (0mRoj)

168 So you know my cousin then?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

If you grew up in a small northern WI town, it is possible. Course if your name is Mike I might be that cousin.

Posted by: Bete: A Deplorable at December 19, 2016 10:20 PM (Ojki1)

169 I think the fireworks guy might be onto something for tattoo removal....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 19, 2016 10:20 PM (EzgxV)

170 I think the idea was to create the illusion of a
higher waist, thereby crwaing better visual balance between her
shoulders and hips.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:19 PM (d0XHp)
=============================

Didn't go too well.

Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:20 PM (dFi94)

171 Barry & I will be married 2-14-18! He promised to divorce soon.

Posted by: Reggie! at December 19, 2016 10:21 PM (+kwUl)

172 Good evening, 'rons and 'ettes!

Gonna read a few comments. Save my seat.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 19, 2016 10:21 PM (rJUlF)

173 Steve -

Montrose Record went out this morning. Got a little snowy and cold up here, this weekend and it slipped my mind.

-G

Posted by: garrett at December 19, 2016 10:21 PM (BrHGq)

174 I've given advice to a few young folks that they should find a brand of whiskey that they can drink neat or on the rocks. If nothing else, it's a good go-to when other options are limited.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 10:18 PM (FYrz1)

Absolutely, and there's no shortage of good whiskey these days.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:18 PM (0mRoj)




very good advice. further, when you are at a business dinner everyone will notice who is drinking scotch neat.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:21 PM (cPsPa)

175 Just made her look like an inverted goblet with upholstery.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:20 PM (0mRoj)
=============================


Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:21 PM (dFi94)

176 169 I think the fireworks guy might be onto something for tattoo removal....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 19, 2016 10:20 PM (EzgxV)

Creme brulee torch'll get 'er done.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:22 PM (0mRoj)

177 What? No Wallbanger? I call bullshit on that list.

Posted by: otho at December 19, 2016 10:22 PM (lmIoG)

178 I don't think Dorothy is in Kansas any more. Colorado and Washington more like.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 19, 2016 10:22 PM (wPiJc)

179 You and your fancy drinks. I feel blessed when what I drink doesn't taste of diesel.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 19, 2016 10:22 PM (9MInk)

180 CaliGirl, exactly. What's especially interesting is, I've read when Jerry Lewis is not in the greatest mood, he doesn't just give this tight-lipped treatment to young cub reporters; he does it to everybody if he thinks he's not respected by the person/people.

garrett, thanks! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:23 PM (u8kLQ)

181 167, 170, & 175:

They did what they could with what they had. But, no, their efforts were not successful in all places.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:24 PM (d0XHp)

182 I think the idea was to create the illusion of a higher waist, thereby crwaing better visual balance between her shoulders and hips.

Can't make the waist too high, though, or the ref won't be able to see her number.

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 10:24 PM (29QcC)

183

Forty Two

Posted by: Deep Thought at December 19, 2016 10:24 PM (IqV8l)

184 Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:20 PM (0mRoj)
I never want to hear how fabulous Michelle is again. Go away.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:24 PM (Q5Ymk)

185 179 You and your fancy drinks. I feel blessed when what I drink doesn't taste of diesel.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 19, 2016 10:22 PM (9MInk)

You had diesel 'flavored' drinks? We had to wave our valu-rite in the exhaust of a passing 18 wheeler.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:24 PM (92kX2)

186 Firefighter Eating At Restaurant Notices Carbon Monoxide Symptoms, Saves 32 People

++++

And kudos to the firefighter. The reporter who wrote the piece of shit article is another matter. Whatever caused 32 people dining in a restaurant to suddenly come down with carbon monoxide poisoning? Idiot never tells us.

But, at least there was a link, and if you click through to the real news site, the obvious question is answered.

The source of the carbon monoxide exposure was the restaurant's natural gas heating system, Williams said.

Posted by: Kosmo Kramer at December 19, 2016 10:24 PM (R+30W)

187 whiskey and whisky should both be consumed at room temp, with a bit of water added.

no ice, and no bubbles. just sip it. the water drops the proof a bit, so the alcohol doesn't lock up your taste buds. ice deadens them as well, hence no ice.

same for rum, etc.

vodka? who cares? straight shots from the freezer or mixed.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 19, 2016 10:25 PM (JKi7U)

188 >>Hey look, mister, we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get
drunk fast and we don't need any characters around to give the joint
atmosphere. Is that clear or do I have to slip you my left for a
convincer?



The difference between Nick's and the ONT is that we NEED characters to give the joint atmosphere.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 10:25 PM (tHwdc)

189 Posted by: Bete: A Deplorable at December 19, 2016 10:20 PM (Ojki1)

Kay, is that you?
J/K

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 19, 2016 10:25 PM (voOPb)

190 12 Posts of Christmas, 2016 (Day 7)

"Hark the hearald angels sing" and "Come all ye faithfull" as performed by Blackmore's Night

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12816

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 19, 2016 10:25 PM (vBeA5)

191 In other news...

The head of a Russian foreign ministry department has been shot dead in Moscow, according to local media.The government has not yet confirmed the reports.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 10:26 PM (Zla+B)

192 I never want to hear how fabulous Michelle is again. Go away.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:24 PM (Q5Ymk)

I can only assume you mean Mooch. I'm not going anywhere...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:26 PM (0mRoj)

193 /sock

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 19, 2016 10:26 PM (R+30W)

194 You and your fancy drinks. I feel blessed when what I drink doesn't taste of diesel.
Posted by: Kindltot


I posted earlier:

"December 19, 2016 Associated Press
MOSCOW - A state of emergency has been introduced in the Siberian city of Irkutsk on Monday after at least 33 people died of alcohol poisoning from consuming a bath lotion.
...
Officials said the bottles with the lotion were clearly marked with warnings that they weren't for internal use."

Fuckin' sad.d

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:27 PM (ZBp8/)

195 vodka? who cares? straight shots from the freezer or mixed.
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 19, 2016 10:25 PM (JKi7U)

I tried the 'crystal head' vodka that Aykroyd sells. It was actually not bad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:27 PM (92kX2)

196 Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:23 PM (u8kLQ)
His sweater kept changing colors too. He was not happy at all.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:27 PM (Q5Ymk)

197 Small explosives might work well on hard-to-remove piercings, too...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 19, 2016 10:27 PM (kP16F)

198 In other news...

The head of a Russian foreign ministry department has been shot dead in Moscow, according to local media.The government has not yet confirmed the reports.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 10:26 PM (Zla+B)




wow, obama is settling scores on his way out. without even leaving the golf course he is whacking russians everywhere.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:28 PM (cPsPa)

199
"Hark the hearald angels sing" and "Come all ye faithfull" as performed by Blackmore's Night
---

So, Blackmore's Night is ripping off Trans Siberian Orchestra.

While Deep Purple has become a Deep Purple cover band.

/I cannot wait until this year is over.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 10:28 PM (Zla+B)

200 194. It was freakin' Irkutsk. Living there would be enough to make anyone go insane.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:28 PM (d0XHp)

201 MOSCOW - A state of emergency has been introduced in the Siberian city of Irkutsk on Monday after at least 33 people died of alcohol poisoning from consuming a bath lotion.
...
Officials said the bottles with the lotion were clearly marked with warnings that they weren't for internal use."

Fuckin' sad.d
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:27 PM (ZBp8/)

WTF. Were they shot gunning the bottles? Or does the local hooch taste that bad that they could not tell the difference.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:28 PM (92kX2)

202 The head of a Russian foreign ministry department has been shot dead in Moscow, according to local media.The government has not yet confirmed the reports.


*****


Fort Marx-y Park?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 19, 2016 10:28 PM (wPiJc)

203 Cali, I know about that. The idiots doing video at Hollywood Reporter, didn't bother to calibrate/conform color in the edit. Therefore, the two different cameras picked up two different colors.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:29 PM (u8kLQ)

204 Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:26 PM (0mRoj)
You may stay, you are fabulous. Michelle O, not so much.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:29 PM (Q5Ymk)

205 "Federal safety guidelines for playgrounds..."

The fact that those words are a reality and not a comedy punch line says a lot about how screwed up this country has become.

Posted by: Ripley at December 19, 2016 10:29 PM (NbRJx)

206 And kudos to the firefighter. The reporter who wrote the piece of shit article is another matter. Whatever caused 32 people dining in a restaurant to suddenly come down with carbon monoxide poisoning? Idiot never tells us.
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Creme brulee torch'll get 'er done.
Posted by: Insomniac
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There's your answer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 10:29 PM (ZO497)

207 I'm going to take a wild guess & say there's no Mrs. Guy Who Lit Off Fireworks While Wearing Them.
Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 09:55 PM (7qAYi)


Watch tv judge shows. There are women out there stupid enough to marry pretty much any dumbass.
Well, Huma, for instance.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2016 10:29 PM (+lVUW)

208 Wait, what? Lotion has enough alcohol to kill you? WTF are the Russians making it with? Something seems hinky about that.

Posted by: Infidel at December 19, 2016 10:29 PM (a62hT)

209 Oh, I love Bocelli. Come on people - grow up. Let the man sing, for pete's sake. Does every single thing have to have a grievance attached to it now?

Posted by: grammie winger - Glad Tidings of Great Joy at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (dFi94)


And I always associated blacklisting with a bad, bad man who was junior Senator from Wisconsin.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 19, 2016 10:29 PM (J8/9G)

210 It tastes good!

Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at December 19, 2016 10:29 PM (+kwUl)

211 >>So, Blackmore's Night is ripping off Trans Siberian Orchestra.


No more man on the silver mountain

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 19, 2016 10:31 PM (voOPb)

212 But! They never call it socialism!

They call it other things:

Rich paying their fair share.

Affordable health care (Act).

Student loans + student loan forgiveness.

A real living wage for all (mandated).

SSI ("crazy checks").

And all the rest of the stuff the free shit army wants.



Posted by: mnw at December 19, 2016 10:31 PM (Y1iuP)

213 well, if you have to drink vodka it should be chilled in a snowbank, drunk in front of a fireplace, and the bottle and glasses should be thrown into the fireplace right before you toss your russian cutie over your shoulder and stagger upstairs.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:32 PM (cPsPa)

214 Speaking of booze, I'm reading "Punch, the Delights and Dangers of the Flowing Bowl" by David Wondrich. He mentions a Colonial punch made on the Virginia-Carolina border in 1828 called "Fricassee of Rum."

Preparation was described by a contemporary traveler as "they Fry'd half a dozen rashers of very fat Bacon in a Pint of Rum, both of which being disht up together, serv'd the Company at once for meat and Drink."

I have the rum, just need to run to the store for the bacon...

Posted by: Skookumchuk at December 19, 2016 10:32 PM (bftta)

215 "Federal safety guidelines for playgrounds..."

I remember tying string to chunks of asphalt and whirling them around to see how high we could throw them. That's still ok, right?

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 10:32 PM (9Q5BJ)

216 208. Probably scented and denatured. I imagine it was more a sort of eau de toilet rather than a 'lotion' as we understand it. My guess? Glycerine and alcohol with perfume.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:32 PM (d0XHp)

217 Wait, what? Lotion has enough alcohol to kill you? WTF are the Russians making it with? Something seems hinky about that.
Posted by: Infidel


I suspect poor translation there. Probably some after-shave.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:32 PM (ZBp8/)

218 Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:29 PM (u8kLQ)
I really wanted to know, was Jerry's sweater orange or pink?

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:32 PM (Q5Ymk)

219 how is bath lotion cheaper than vodka in russia?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:33 PM (cPsPa)

220 MSN "News" trying to tie Hitler 'this day in history' story to Trump. Link to "Trump Wins Electoral College" (and not "Election" you'll notice) followed by "Hitler Takes Command" story 3 seconds after the Trump story as the "stories" rotate on the Windows 8.1 start screen.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2016 10:33 PM (lJXY3)

221 As in Bay Rum Aftershave. Smells for all the world like a spiced rum.

ABER NYET!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:33 PM (ZBp8/)

222 Forty Two

Posted by: Deep Thought



Magnus Carlsen is a cretin.

Posted by: Deep Blue at December 19, 2016 10:33 PM (rH4JY)

223 215 "Federal safety guidelines for playgrounds..."

I remember tying string to chunks of asphalt and whirling them around to see how high we could throw them. That's still ok, right?
Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 10:32 PM (9Q5BJ)

Sheeeit, these days that would probably get the SWAT team sicced in you.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:33 PM (0mRoj)

224 213. That assumes she doesn't drag you to the floor and get hers right there and then. Subtle and modest the younger ones ain't.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (d0XHp)

225 Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:29 PM (Q5Ymk)

Heh. I've been referred to as many things. Fabulous has not been one of them.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (0mRoj)

226 if you drink bath lotion you can make your own foam party

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (cPsPa)

227 how is bath lotion cheaper than vodka in russia?
Supply and demand.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (lJXY3)

228
201 MOSCOW - A state of emergency has been introduced in the Siberian city of Irkutsk on Monday after at least 33 people died of alcohol poisoning from consuming a bath lotion.
...
Officials said the bottles with the lotion were clearly marked with warnings that they weren't for internal use."

Fuckin' sad.d
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:27 PM (ZBp8/)

WTF. Were they shot gunning the bottles? Or does the local hooch taste that bad that they could not tell the difference.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:28 PM (92kX2)







Basically, if there's the slightest hint of an idea that you can get drunk off it, a Russian will drink ANYTHING.

As I recall, legend was that the Soviets had constant problems with their tank crewmen drinking brake and hydraulic fluid used in their armored vehicles because they were alcohol-based fluids.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (LuZz8)

229 I'm a Manhattan afficianado. My favorite building in Manhattan is the Empire State Building.

Posted by: VA MKZ at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (htupJ)

230 how is bath lotion cheaper than vodka in russia?


*****


Simple supply and demand?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (wPiJc)

231 "I suspect poor translation there. Probably some after-shave."
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:32 PM (ZBp8/)

You can drink that, but you'll only wind-up professing your love for Mollie Hemingway.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (6gk0M)

232 96. I think it was PJ O'Rourke who said the fact that cigars were rationed in Cuba and that you couldn't get Chicken Kiev in Kiev told you all you needed to know about socialism.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:11 PM (d0XHp)


Too bad he died years and years and years ago. That guy would be tweeting one-liners about Hillary every day.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 19, 2016 10:35 PM (VdICR)

233 how is bath lotion cheaper than vodka in russia?
Supply and demand.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (lJXY3)




have you been to russia? the same bottle of bath lotion has been on the store shelf since kruschev was in charge.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:35 PM (cPsPa)

234 So, is Russia having moonbat issues or is just getting out on the intertubes?

Posted by: Infidel at December 19, 2016 10:35 PM (a62hT)

235 Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (lJXY3)

****


Curse you, canuck!

Posted by: Muldoon at December 19, 2016 10:35 PM (wPiJc)

236 46 >> Indeed. Four or more ingredients, chick drink.

Bloody Marys. Vodka, tomato juice, Tabasco, olives, lemon or lime slices. The essential way to start a hungover day. Not many women drink them.

As to how unfair the whole discrimination laws thing is, Steve Crowder went undercover into a muzzie bakery in Dearborn MI and asked for a gay wedding cake, with quite predictable results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Strangely enough, the DOJ or MI officials didn't get all hot and bothered and sue the place out of existence.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 19, 2016 10:35 PM (oZEJt)

237 My guess? Glycerine and alcohol with perfume.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
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So, Jergen's?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 10:36 PM (ZO497)

238 I don't like beer. I've had a shot or two of Fireball in the winter to clear my sinuses, but I don't want to drink that all the time. I'd like to try something else.

So, if one were not a drinker of whiskey, rum, or vodka in the past -- that "one" being yours truly -- are there brands that I should avoid?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 19, 2016 10:36 PM (rJUlF)

239 I remember tying string to chunks of asphalt and whirling them around to see how high we could throw them. That's still ok, right?
Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 10:32 PM (9Q5BJ)

You had chunks of asphalt?

Ok, no one wants to play tonight.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:36 PM (92kX2)

240 Glycerine and alcohol with perfume.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine


Methanol vs. Ethanol

Methanol is wood alcohol. Deadly.

Ethanol is yer concentrated booze product.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:36 PM (ZBp8/)

241 Sheeeit, these days that would probably get the SWAT team sicced in you.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:33 PM (0mRoj)


And the Federales will scratch their heads and wonder why children are getting obese.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 19, 2016 10:36 PM (J8/9G)

242 I'm a Manhattan afficianado. My favorite building in Manhattan is the Empire State Building.
Posted by: VA MKZ at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (htupJ)




you are obviously socking. no one likes the empire state building.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:36 PM (cPsPa)

243
"'Federal safety guidelines for playgrounds...'

The fact that those words are a reality and not a comedy punch line says a lot about how screwed up this country has become."

Now that is a well-explained joke.

Posted by: OurFederalism at December 19, 2016 10:36 PM (48KEb)

244 #220 Addendum: And the headline wasn't "Hitler Takes Command of the German Army" just "Hitler Takes Command" implying today was the same day Adolf was elected!!!11!!1! just like Trump!!1!!1!!!!111!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2016 10:36 PM (lJXY3)

245 One thing about drinking lotion- it goes down smooth!

Posted by: Muldoon at December 19, 2016 10:37 PM (wPiJc)

246 Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (0mRoj)
Would you settle for your repartee is fabulous?

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:37 PM (Q5Ymk)

247 I'm wandering off to eat cookies. Have everything packaged for friends.

I'm gonna nibble on what's left. Nom, nom...

Posted by: Farmer at December 19, 2016 10:37 PM (o/90i)

248 You can drink that, but you'll only wind-up professing your love for Mollie Hemingway.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (6gk0M)


Or Patty Ann Browne.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 19, 2016 10:37 PM (rJUlF)

249 228. Yep. 'Handbook of Soviet Military Deficiencies,' based on Rooshian experience in Afghanistan, noted that they'd drain anti-freeze/coolant (usually high-proof ethanol) and cut it with tea to keep warm at night and numb by day.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:37 PM (d0XHp)

250 Just read at Boston Globe, Trump's picks of Mattis and Tillerson have been praised as "thoughtful" by...

John Kerry.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:38 PM (u8kLQ)

251 212 But! They never call it socialism!
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Crimethought!!!!!!1!!!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 19, 2016 10:38 PM (EZebt)

252 So, if one were not a drinker of whiskey, rum, or vodka in the past -- that "one" being yours truly -- are there brands that I should avoid?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 19, 2016 10:36 PM (rJUlF)



it is easier to recommend brands to seek out.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:38 PM (cPsPa)

253 ..."Or Patty Ann Browne."
-Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 19, 2016 10:37 PM (rJUlF)

Sober "given".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 10:38 PM (6gk0M)

254 As for drinking bath lotion:

Is it Aveeno? Because if there's oatmeal in it, all bets are off...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:38 PM (u8kLQ)

255 Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 19, 2016 10:36 PM (rJUlF)
Val u rite is the best.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:38 PM (Q5Ymk)

256 bill clinton net worth $200 million +.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 19, 2016 10:39 PM (WTSFk)

257 >>>Wait, what? Lotion has enough alcohol to kill you? WTF are the Russians making it with? Something seems hinky about that.

Posted by: Infidel




I suspect poor translation there. Probably some after-shave.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:32 PM (ZBp8/)




Have a shave with this and you'll look like a million bucks.

Have a drink with this and she'll look like a million bucks.

Burma Russia Shave.

Posted by: Russia Shave at December 19, 2016 10:39 PM (ZAlOu)

258 The difference between Nick's and the ONT is that we NEED characters to give the joint atmosphere.
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pull my finger and we're there!


Posted by: redc1c4 at December 19, 2016 10:39 PM (JKi7U)

259 Glycerine is potable. It'll just give you the shits.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:39 PM (ZBp8/)

260 MTV needs to shut its pie hole and just play some damn music videos...

http://tinyurl.com/ja7lm3l

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 19, 2016 10:39 PM (vBeA5)

261 Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:38 PM (u8kLQ)

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Heh.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (CRotO)

262 john brennan is a muzzie sucker of cock. better keep his head on a swivel. man is a fucking traitor.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (KP5rU)

263 Yo, andycanuck!!!


I just want you to know that I'm really sorry I alarmed you the night I was banned. I was being a jackass, and I regret it.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (EzgxV)

264
MSN "News" trying to tie Hitler 'this day in history' story to Trump.

MSN.com is always crap. I change that page immediately.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (IqV8l)

265 So I'm browsing Amazon hoping to find a Christmas gift for the wife and prevent *unfortunate* consequences, and I come across this:

Pure Copper Magnetic Bracelet From Earth Therapy - For Men & Women To Give Relief To Arthritis, RSI, Carpal Tunnel, Migraines, Fatigue & More

It's frightening that so few people will see what's wrong with that.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (uyrlv)

266 Bloody Marys. Vodka, tomato juice, Tabasco, olives, lemon or lime slices. The essential way to start a hungover day. Not many women drink them.

Her Majesty has one when we go out to breakfast to go with her beignets.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (J8/9G)

267 it is easier to recommend brands to seek out.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:38 PM (cPsPa)

OK, then. What do y'all like?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (rJUlF)

268 Truck driver was Afghan refugee, in Germany since last Feb.

Dead passenger was the murdered Polish trucker who had been driving before hijacked.

Posted by: mnw at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (Y1iuP)

269 The difference between Nick's and the ONT is that we NEED characters to give the joint atmosphere.

I'm shocked, shocked that there's gambling going on in here!!

Loan me $50 for the blackjack table!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (u8kLQ)

270 240. Mentioned denatured ethyl alcohol. Wood spirit is not suitable for cosmetic use, even by Rooshian standards. Perfumers alcohol is highly refined ethanol - the best os from grape spirit - with just a splash of butanol to render it unfit to drink. Wood spirit has a stank that cannot be removed.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:41 PM (d0XHp)

271 Hand Lotion is probably their description of hand sanitizers, which are frequently ethanol based.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 19, 2016 10:41 PM (oZEJt)

272 Did someone say Manhattan?


Bulleit (or Old Overholt) rye and Noilly Prat vermouth.

IMO, the Noilly Prat is a more complex vermouth than Martini.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 19, 2016 10:41 PM (+eR2D)

273 265 So I'm browsing Amazon hoping to find a Christmas gift for the wife and prevent *unfortunate* consequences, and I come across this:

Pure Copper Magnetic Bracelet From Earth Therapy - For Men & Women To Give Relief To Arthritis, RSI, Carpal Tunnel, Migraines, Fatigue & More

It's frightening that so few people will see what's wrong with that.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (uyrlv)

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One good thing about being broke and no family around...no xmas shopping.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 10:41 PM (CRotO)

274 ... when mrs. obama sat down with billionaire oprah winfrey and said there's "no hope" she lied. in her quiet and serious moments her only concern is will the obama's turn $10 million + into $100 million + so she can con tine to live in mansions and enjoy million dollar vacations.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 19, 2016 10:42 PM (WTSFk)

275 Methanol is wood alcohol. Deadly.
Ethanol is yer concentrated booze product.


We all have bottles of ethanol at work for cleaning things. There are people who don't know what it is. That may be a good thing.

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 10:42 PM (/cksx)

276 OK, then. What do y'all like?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (rJUlF)




were I stuck on a desert island with only one scotch I would take Macallan 12. Lots of scotches that I like but I have never been sorry I ordered Macallan 12.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:42 PM (cPsPa)

277 Breitbart headline: "Obama warns Trump not to overuse Executive Orders"

BWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 19, 2016 10:42 PM (rJUlF)

278 There are some serious drinkers here, even morbid.

Posted by: OurFederalism at December 19, 2016 10:42 PM (48KEb)

279 Pure Copper Magnetic Bracelet From Earth Therapy - For Men & Women To Give Relief To Arthritis, RSI, Carpal Tunnel, Migraines, Fatigue & More

It's frightening that so few people will see what's wrong with that.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (uyrlv)

I know. I saw one in a gift shop at Mt Rushmore with my parents and started laughing.

Mmmm magnetic copper.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:42 PM (92kX2)

280 "'Federal safety guidelines for playgrounds...'

The fact that those words are a reality and not a comedy punch line says a lot about how screwed up this country has become."

Now that is a well-explained joke.
Posted by: OurFederalism
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The Attorney General of the United States determining that by law a man who declares himself to be a woman, must be treated as a woman.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 10:42 PM (ZO497)

281 Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (J8/9G)
Don't forget the Worcestershire sauce, horseradish and celery salt.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:42 PM (Q5Ymk)

282 Mentioned denatured ethyl alcohol. Wood spirit is not suitable for cosmetic use, even by Rooshian standards. Perfumers alcohol is highly refined ethanol - the best os from grape spirit - with just a splash of butanol to render it unfit to drink. Wood spirit has a stank that cannot be removed.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine


That's okay, this hasn't been real skin on my face for years.

Posted by: Hillary R.C. at December 19, 2016 10:43 PM (u8kLQ)

283 RE: It's a Wonderful Life quote--

My favorite line from a different movie's bartender is from 'Harvey':

Mr. Cracker, the Bartender: [to Wilson] One more peep outta you, weisenheimer, and I'll butter your necktie.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 19, 2016 10:43 PM (uyrlv)

284 if we have our own hitler, do we have to do the full heil? or is a half heil o.k.?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 10:43 PM (KP5rU)

285 >>>Marc Jacobs, who has also dressed -- you guessed it -- Michelle Obama, wants nothing to do with Melania:<<<

So what you're saying is that Michelle was giving handjobs for fashion tips. And only the tips.

Posted by: Fritz at December 19, 2016 10:43 PM (4y6Fd)

286 continue not "con tine". damn splchk.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 19, 2016 10:43 PM (WTSFk)

287 Kurt loved see-saws as a kid, and he was awfully good at it.

He was so good at it, he was able to see-saw while standing on his head. Amazing!

Banged his head a little, though, each and every time his end of the see-saw hit the ground. Probably explains some of his issues really. Almost like a war injury.

Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald's Wife at December 19, 2016 10:43 PM (BKV7y)

288 Bulleit (or Old Overholt) rye and Noilly Prat vermouth.

IMO, the Noilly Prat is a more complex vermouth than Martini.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 19, 2016 10:41 PM (+eR2D)




Thanks

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:44 PM (cPsPa)

289 Mmmm magnetic copper.

Posted by: Aetius451AD
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I don't get that. What's funny about it?

Posted by: Barky at December 19, 2016 10:44 PM (ZO497)

290 259. Old style 'lotions' were usially glycerine, rosewater, and alcoholic perfume. Applied after a bath, usually. I expect that could be why they called it 'lotion.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:44 PM (d0XHp)

291 Cripes. I've done no Christmas shopping and that's for me or dad. My head as just not been in it this season. Probably because I've spent so much of my time this year chasing my tail I'm checking for polyps at this stage.

Must figure it out. Must make it right...

I hate this part of Christmas, I really do.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at December 19, 2016 10:44 PM (vyqqu)

292 Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at December 19, 2016 10:44 PM (v3DL/)

293 RE: Truck terror attack today:

Will be interesting to see how mass murder by recent Islamic "refugee" ... affects public opinion in Ger.

Posted by: mnw at December 19, 2016 10:44 PM (Y1iuP)

294 The Attorney General of the United States determining that by law a man who declares himself to be a woman, must be treated as a woman.

So any man declaring himself a woman should expect an immediate pay cut?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016 10:44 PM (IcT7t)

295 You had chunks of asphalt?

Ok, no one wants to play tonight.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:36 PM (92kX2)
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Yeah, we had asphalt. Everywhere except under the monkey bars. That's where the broken glass was.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 19, 2016 10:45 PM (EZebt)

296 Also, request will be made for gift ideas to be communicated by email, NOT text messages.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at December 19, 2016 10:45 PM (vyqqu)

297 Heil myself.

Posted by: Der Trumpenfuhrer at December 19, 2016 10:46 PM (uyrlv)

298 I heartily accept your apology, cthulhu. I knew the back story of your harasser and take that into account. Cheers and have a Merry Christmas.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2016 10:46 PM (lJXY3)

299 So any man declaring himself a woman should expect an immediate pay cut?

Posted by: Blanco Basura


Well if you're cutting the one thing...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at December 19, 2016 10:46 PM (vyqqu)

300 >>Pure Copper Magnetic Bracelet From Earth Therapy -
For Men Women To Give Relief To Arthritis, RSI, Carpal Tunnel,
Migraines, Fatigue More



It's frightening that so few people will see what's wrong with that.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles

So what's wrong with that?

Posted by: Preznit Fucknuts at December 19, 2016 10:46 PM (/Nite)

301 Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 19, 2016 10:41 PM (+eR2D)

Never, ever try Antica Carpano Vermouth.

It's 2x-3x the price of Noilly Prat, but so much better you won't be able to use anything else.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 19, 2016 10:47 PM (42Mgr)

302 since celebrating a gay ceremony is against everything I believe in I must charge enough money to feed all the poor in town for 2 weeks to bake your cake.
Hillary will not be POTUS. Blessings are true.

Posted by: talgus da deplorable at December 19, 2016 10:47 PM (fJQAI)

303 Pure Copper Magnetic Bracelet From Earth Therapy - For Men & Women To Give Relief To Arthritis, RSI, Carpal Tunnel, Migraines, Fatigue & More

It's frightening that so few people will see what's wrong with that.


It's fine the way it is. Just past some current through it and it'll be magnetic. Need more magnetism? Crank up the amperage!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016 10:47 PM (IcT7t)

304 289 Mmmm magnetic copper.

Posted by: Aetius451AD
------------

I don't get that. What's funny about it?
Posted by: Barky at December 19, 2016 10:44 PM (ZO497)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IRON IS UNIQUE IN BEING MAGNETIC. THIS IS DUE TO IT'S SINGLE FILLING OF ELECTRONS IN EACH OF IT ORBITAL PATHWAYS. THIS ALLOWS THE SPIN STATES OF THE ELECTRONS TO BE ALIGNED- WITHOUT BEING CANCELLED OUT- WHICH CREATES MAGNETISM.

Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at December 19, 2016 10:47 PM (92kX2)

305 It's Russian copper, my friend. Like Chinese steel, nothing but the best.

Posted by: Fritz at December 19, 2016 10:47 PM (4y6Fd)

306 Copper has proven disinfectant qualities, which is why the Greeks and Romans used bronze for their medical tools.

But wearing copper bracelets for the aura is major cargo cult thinking. Like wearing a penicillin tablet as a pendant.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 19, 2016 10:48 PM (6FqZa)

307 Just past some current through it and it'll be magnetic. Need more magnetism? Crank up the amperage!

Here, let Firecracker Boy show you how...

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 10:48 PM (k8DTS)

308 Great news everyone!! Miley Cyrus has just released her very first Christmas album!!

You'll love her modern, sassy takes on the classics. Included on this great new album are:

- "Jiggly Balls"

- "Rodolfo the Transgen DREAMer"

- "I Saw Daddy Mounting Santa Claus"

... and many, many more!!! (Some titles can't be listed due to FCC obscenity statutes.)

Call now, operators are standing by!!!!

Posted by: K(inky)-Tel at December 19, 2016 10:48 PM (u8kLQ)

309 >>>Mmmm magnetic copper.

Posted by: Aetius451AD

------------

I don't get that. What's funny about it?
Posted by: Barky at December 19, 2016 10:44 PM (ZO497)<<<

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE COPPER ISN'T MAGNETIC... AND NEITHER IS ALUMINUM.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at December 19, 2016 10:48 PM (ZAlOu)

310 LMAO "Roethlisberger".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 19, 2016 10:48 PM (6FqZa)

311 RE: It's a Wonderful Life quote--

My favorite line from a different movie's bartender is from 'Harvey':

-------

Uncle Billy staggers away from Christmas party. After he is off screen, we hear a crash of garbage cans.

Still unseen, we hear Uncle Billy call back: "I'm aaaallll right, I'm aaaallll right."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 10:48 PM (NBHj5)

312 I love this ingrained idea, this notion these assholes have that Melania Trump wants or needs their help. I mean, look at her. She's what we in the retail business used to call a "clothes hanger"-- everything looks good on her. Target could dress her and she'll wear it like Valentino.

Michelle Obama had to be molded into whatever it was they insisted she became, fashion-wise.

Posted by: Ktgreat at December 19, 2016 10:48 PM (Bl4dy)

313 And it wasn't MSNBC on TV running the Trump/Hitler history day thing; it was Microsoft's "news" links that are part of the Windows 8.1 startup page when you start your handheld. (Although I don't know if they're the same stories run by MSNBC.)

Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2016 10:49 PM (lJXY3)

314 copper is so conductive when the solar flares come calling

Posted by: talgus da deplorable at December 19, 2016 10:49 PM (fJQAI)

315 Everywhere except under the monkey bars. That's where the broken glass was.


******


Must be nice to be rich. When our mom told us to go to the monkey bars to play we had to go to a real bar. With real monkeys.


Mean drunks, they were.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 19, 2016 10:49 PM (wPiJc)

316 The two Christmas musical selections: Not a dig at the post author, but, did you notice how dumb it is to post a VIDEO which is just a photo (or a series of stills) when all you really want is the audio?

Where's the audio-only YouSpeaker that's easily embedded, universally playable, and video-free?

(Say those of us who remember how valuable data download time is.)

Oh, well. So many digital windmills to be tilted at.

HOWDY, HAPPY HORDE!

It's Election Day all over again. Liberal tears a-flowing like the Mississippi at flood stage. HAHAHAHHHAA!

!

Re-run from earlier:

Half-minute video remix
Electoral Snowflaking
http://mindfulwebworks.com/radical/electoral-snowflaking
or
https://youtu.be/R4UHPkrK1qg

Thanks for the link, Warden!

Posted by: mindful webworker - jolly holly day-oh dayyy oh at December 19, 2016 10:49 PM (5a8XA)

317 Although Blanco is also right with regards to electrical magnets. I was speaking of ferro-magnetism.

Anyone know if you could achieve the same effect with elements in the same period? I never got to ask a professor in college.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:49 PM (92kX2)

318 Will be interesting to see how mass murder by recent Islamic "refugee" ... affects public opinion in Ger.
Posted by: mnw at December 19, 2016 10:44 PM (Y1iuP)


I have been told, but I am unable to verify it, that the most recent issue with Merkel's government is that they were covering up German assaults on the Syrians and others claiming to be Syrians to keep up the facade of "everyone is welcoming them"


Posted by: Kindltot at December 19, 2016 10:49 PM (9MInk)

319 >>>Don't forget the Worcestershire sauce, horseradish and celery salt

has to be extra, extra spicy for me

Posted by: concrete girl at December 19, 2016 10:49 PM (pzy2j)

320 Now saying driver may be Paki refugee, or possibly an Afghani refugee.

Merkel said all the refugees would be just fine, I thought?

Posted by: mnw at December 19, 2016 10:50 PM (Y1iuP)

321 HITLER TAKES COMMAND
OBAMA GOES GOLFING

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 10:50 PM (/cksx)

322 Glycerine and alcohol with perfume.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine


I thought there was a quote from Obama along the lines of 'just learned that aluminum is not magnetic.'

Can't find a thing on the web searches.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:50 PM (ZBp8/)

323 271. Also possible. A little sprite or the Rooshian equivalent, amd you've got a poor man's Tom Collins. Or Tomas Kaliningrad. Whichever.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:50 PM (d0XHp)

324 It's frightening that so few people will see what's wrong with that.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (uyrlv)



Yes, everyone knows that aluminum magnetic bracelets are the correct ones for women!

Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at December 19, 2016 10:51 PM (wCEn4)

325 It's 2x-3x the price of Noilly Prat, but so much better you won't be able to use anything else.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 19, 2016 10:47 PM (42Mgr)


I have some expensive $20+ vermouth here that Mr D bought me (I'm too tired to get up to look at what it is) that I didn't like. I do like Stock too, but Noilly Prat is my go-to.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 19, 2016 10:51 PM (+eR2D)

326 Fun trivia fact of the day:

Tabasco was originally packaged in perfume bottles.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:51 PM (u8kLQ)

327 Can't find a thing on the web searches.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:50 PM (ZBp8/)

#FakeNews

Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at December 19, 2016 10:51 PM (wCEn4)

328 Tabasco was originally packaged in perfume bottles.

Maybe in Jeffrey Dahmer's house...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 19, 2016 10:52 PM (6FqZa)

329 SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/810921854168928256

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/810921943180382208

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/810922114471645184

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/810922268721287169

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/810922373801246720

Posted by: kbdabear at December 19, 2016 10:52 PM (Ya7zs)

330 Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
Posted by: Amy Schumer
----------------

Those who cannot remember their password, will soon be speaking to 'Philip', who has a curiously heavy Indian accent.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 10:52 PM (ZO497)

331 Mean drunks, they were.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 19, 2016 10:49 PM (wPiJc)

Luxury....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 19, 2016 10:52 PM (42Mgr)

332 I love this ingrained idea, this notion these assholes have that Melania Trump wants or needs their help. I mean, look at her. She's what we in the retail business used to call a "clothes hanger"-- everything looks good on her. Target could dress her and she'll wear it like Valentino.

I think it would be hilarious if Melania chose to do just that. Buy stuff that most middle class women could afford and look amazing in it. It would drive the left nuts.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 10:52 PM (FYrz1)

333 >>has to be extra, extra spicy for me

Posted by: concrete girl

That's where the Old Bay and Tapatio come in.

Posted by: Preznit Fucknuts at December 19, 2016 10:52 PM (/Nite)

334 246 Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:34 PM (0mRoj)
Would you settle for your repartee is fabulous?
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 19, 2016 10:37 PM (Q5Ymk)


That is just spiffy.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:52 PM (0mRoj)

335 errps,

that was to be addressed to

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (ZBp8/)

336 Never, ever try Antica Carpano Vermouth.

It's 2x-3x the price of Noilly Prat, but so much better you won't be able to use anything else.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 19, 2016 10:47 PM (42Mgr)



glad you stopped by I was going to have to shoot you an email about manhattans. what is your preferred rye?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (cPsPa)

337 bth, LOL. But 'tis true.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (u8kLQ)

338 A Drudge link blurb this morning said something like

Lonely men more likely to have sex with a robot...

Or a couch. I have a sneaky suspicion that our tax money paid for this study.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (oZEJt)

339 >>>>has to be extra, extra spicy for me



Posted by: concrete girl

That's where the Old Bay and Tapatio come in.


Posted by: Preznit Fucknuts

Crap, sock fail.

Posted by: Aviator at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (/Nite)

340 I'd try Noilly Prat, but I make Manhattans so rarely that most of the bottle would go to waste. Hence, I still with Martini.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (FYrz1)

341 There was a "news" fluff piece a few days ago about how medical scientists are back to looking at copper-based antibiotics to fight today's "super bugs" that had been investigated earlier in the 20th Century but were abandoned after penicillin became mass produced.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (lJXY3)

342 SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics - 2

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/810922533121822720

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/810922615170797575

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/810922699799281664

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/810922797266505729

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/810922889683800064

Posted by: kbdabear at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (Ya7zs)

343 Anonosaurus Wrecks #28: Glenn Beck is appearing on Samantha B this evening.

Must-not-see TV!

Posted by: mindful webworker - watching paint dry instead at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (5a8XA)

344 Yes, everyone knows that aluminum magnetic bracelets are the correct ones for women!

That's simply due to aluminum's inferior current handling capabilities. The sexists that make the bracelets think women only need 77% of the magnetism that men do.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (IcT7t)

345 Don't know if I'd have much success with a robot.

Even my imaginary girlfriend left me. Turned out she was cheating with Superman.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 10:54 PM (u8kLQ)

346 Some guys are really sick!

Posted by: swiss-cheese f#cker at December 19, 2016 10:54 PM (lJXY3)

347 I thought there was a quote from Obama along the lines of 'just learned that aluminum is not magnetic.'

Can't find a thing on the web searches.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
-------------

Stand by
*wades into the archives*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 10:54 PM (ZO497)

348 >>>A Drudge link blurb this morning said something like

Lonely men more likely to have sex with a robot...

Or a couch. I have a sneaky suspicion that our tax money paid for this study.


Posted by: GnuBreed at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (oZEJt)<<<

What a buncha freaks.

Posted by: toaster fucker at December 19, 2016 10:54 PM (ZAlOu)

349 148 Marc Jacobs, who has also dressed -- you guessed it -- Michelle Obama, wants nothing to do with Melania:

Bwahaha. I knew it as I was looking it up - he's gay.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 19, 2016 10:17 PM (rH4JY)


Maybe he likes challenge. Obviously it's harder to make Michelle look good.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2016 10:55 PM (+lVUW)

350 341 There was a "news" fluff piece a few days ago about how medical scientists are back to looking at copper-based antibiotics to fight today's "super bugs" that had been investigated earlier in the 20th Century but were abandoned after penicillin became mass produced.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (lJXY3)

I actually saw a piece about a coal tar based antiseptic that was used in WWI. It was linked on Instapundit a week or so ago. Seemed actually to be an interesting and useful idea.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:55 PM (92kX2)

351 But I had to! It said it had soft shoulders and was slippery when wet!

Posted by: roadside sign f#cker at December 19, 2016 10:55 PM (lJXY3)

352 Beck either doesn't know or doesn't care that the Left is using him. Judging from his actions in the past year, it could be either.

He'll be their token "maverick" right-winger, like McCain, et al, until they're tired of him. Then they'll turn on him, like they turn on everyone else.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 19, 2016 10:56 PM (rJUlF)

353 As far as Melania not being dressed in the finest, I suspect she could throw a bed sheet around herself and make it look regal and elegant.

Also hot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:56 PM (92kX2)

354 344 Yes, everyone knows that aluminum magnetic bracelets are the correct ones for women!

That's simply due to aluminum's inferior current handling capabilities. The sexists that make the bracelets think women only need 77% of the magnetism that men do.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (IcT7t)

If it helps them make sammiches I'm all for it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 19, 2016 10:56 PM (voOPb)

355 139
Whiskey. Neat.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:16 PM (0mRoj)


Sid. From a used water bottle.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 19, 2016 10:56 PM (di1hb)

356 But I had to! It said it had soft shoulders and was slippery when wet!

You got kicked out of a lot record stores around August of 1986, didn't you?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016 10:57 PM (IcT7t)

357 Colorado Alex-

She should wear Ivanka's line.

They. Would. Die.

Posted by: Ktgreat at December 19, 2016 10:57 PM (Bl4dy)

358 Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:53 PM (cPsPa

DangerGirl has it exactly right....Bulleit Rye.

Antica Carpano Vermouth.

Bitter End or Angostura Bitters.

Maple Syrup as the sweet component.

Luxardo maraschino cherry

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 19, 2016 10:57 PM (42Mgr)

359 I'll have to look into coal tar. I recall it being massively useful when mentioned in James Burkes' various The Day The Universe Changed series.

Cool.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2016 10:58 PM (lJXY3)

360 Maybe drinks have changed because people used to need a stiff drink to cope with their hard shit and there's just less hard shit to deal with. or, you know, there are more options?

Posted by: H at December 19, 2016 10:58 PM (BgsX2)

361 meh sex bots seem kind of high maintenance. someone is going to have to plug em in and wash em up when you are done.



even worse, who is going to get them ready for the date? mine would be kept in the trunk next to my skis, shotgun, or clubs depending on the season. when I pulled he out she would be all wrinkled and disheveled and smell like gasoline and grass.




the real money in sex bots is going to be the maid service that maintains them for you.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:58 PM (cPsPa)

362 350. Heh...salvarsan..... arsenic, ftw.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 10:58 PM (d0XHp)

363 267 it is easier to recommend brands to seek out.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:38 PM (cPsPa)

OK, then. What do y'all like?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (rJUlF)

Oh boy. There are a lot of good ones out there.

Single malt: Macallan, Deanston, Dalmore, Glenmorangie
Bourbon: Bulleit, Woodford Reserve, Knob Creek, Bowman Brothers (casked in VA so technically not bourbon but made the same way)
Vodka: New Amsterdam, Tito's

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 10:58 PM (0mRoj)

364 >>>There was a "news" fluff piece a few days ago about how medical
scientists are back to looking at copper-based antibiotics to fight
today's "super bugs" that had been investigated earlier in the 20th
Century but were abandoned after penicillin became mass produced.<<<

Copper doorknobs were the best thing going, until some anally retentive bean counter reengineered the fucking doorknob to be more cost effective.

Posted by: Fritz at December 19, 2016 10:58 PM (4y6Fd)

365 What Europe needs is common sense truck control.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 19, 2016 10:58 PM (v3DL/)

366 "I think the idea was to create the illusion of a higher waist, thereby crwaing better visual balance between her shoulders and hips"

And drawing the eye away from her dick.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 19, 2016 10:59 PM (fYFz4)

367 Hey, we all know when it says "do not enter", it's just playing hard to get.

Posted by: roadside sign f#cker at December 19, 2016 10:59 PM (lJXY3)

368 DangerGirl has it exactly right....Bulleit Rye.

Antica Carpano Vermouth.

Bitter End or Angostura Bitters.

Maple Syrup as the sweet component.

Luxardo maraschino cherry
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 19, 2016 10:57 PM (42Mgr)




Thanks

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:59 PM (cPsPa)

369 I still love Eagle Rare for bourbon, but rarely (SWIDT?) buy it.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 19, 2016 11:00 PM (+eR2D)

370 That's all for me tonight. Early day tomorrow. Well. Earlyish.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2016 11:01 PM (lJXY3)

371 isn't copper the poor man's silver for antibiotic properties?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:01 PM (cPsPa)

372 Thanks

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:59 PM (cPsPa)

Oh yes, CBD.Luxardo maraschino cherries are decadent.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 19, 2016 11:01 PM (+eR2D)

373 A preview/taste of Mindful Webworkshop #16, Christmas Edition:

https://youtu.be/w30RkH1hajA

Posted by: mindful webworker - Merrily Christmasy at December 19, 2016 11:02 PM (5a8XA)

374 >>Luxardo maraschino cherry

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Did you ever end up making your own?

Posted by: Aviator at December 19, 2016 11:02 PM (/Nite)

375 Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:55 PM (92kX2)

I bought some colloidal silver spray for the dogs for external use, but am tempted to try it myself. IIRC, silver also has some anti-bacterial properties.

Posted by: Hrothgar de Plorabble at December 19, 2016 11:03 PM (wCEn4)

376 Ok, have been up too late typing. Have to get up in five hours.

Have a good night all.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 11:03 PM (92kX2)

377 Yep, Bubba was an ee-lector for the state of NY, and made some speech about never being prouder of casting a vote than that there ee-lectoral vote for Shrillary.

When I first saw that, I saw "Whu...Bill's an elector?" but then I remembered I knew that and had read something about Bill being appointed to the NY Dem slate of electors.

He was hoping to make some big production of it when Hillary won. They may have even been hoping to rig something where Bill's vote would put her over the top. Don't know if they could have done that exactly. They could have probably rigged it, by coordinating with the other states (if enough state officials would've gone along with it) to allow NY to put her over the top to 270. And then Bubba could made some deal to be the 270th vote.

But it was all Trumped to the dust bin of history.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:03 PM (DW+jj)

378 298 I heartily accept your apology, cthulhu. I knew the back story of your harasser and take that into account. Cheers and have a Merry Christmas.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 19, 2016 10:46 PM (lJXY3)


Thank you andycanuck. If you have an interest in why I went woozy when you said something about being responsible for my absence, acecomments.mu.nu/?post=367307 has a story between @780 and @799. I felt like a total shitheel about that.



I'm so glad I caught up with you.



Merry Christmas!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 19, 2016 11:03 PM (EzgxV)

379 I've been drinking gimlets lately.

A well made gimlet is damn refreshing.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 19, 2016 11:03 PM (alag3)

380 G'Night, andycanuck.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:03 PM (6gk0M)

381 Marc Jacobs doesn't want to dress Melania? Oh noes, whatever will she do, dressed in rags and looking like the crazy bag lady...*eye roll* these idiot designers are so full of themselves.

Posted by: IC at December 19, 2016 11:04 PM (gcme+)

382 I actually saw a piece about a coal tar based antiseptic that was used in WWI. It was linked on Instapundit a week or so ago. Seemed actually to be an interesting and useful idea.

They used to use lavender oil for antiseptic and burn treatments WWI - ish ...

Posted by: Adriane the Herbal Garden Critic ... at December 19, 2016 11:04 PM (AoK0a)

383 G'Night, Aedius451AD.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:04 PM (6gk0M)

384 375. Still used to treat burn victims. When #1 daughter had a boil, we used silver ointment and yunan baiyao. Worked to stop the spread and killed the infection.

(Poor girl. I had to lance and cup the thing....awful.)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:05 PM (d0XHp)

385 Aetius, even.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:05 PM (6gk0M)

386 All those fancy designers, and yet she still looked like a horse wearing a warming blanket. Says something about their talent right there, it does.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at December 19, 2016 11:05 PM (w+Jhj)

387 I think it's bullshit that someone who once held office and is a relative of the nominee can be an elector.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 19, 2016 11:05 PM (+eR2D)

388 Did you hear Putin is blaming NATO and the West for the assassination of his ambassador in Turkey? The Dems and MSM are blaming him for rigging the election, so he blames us for killing his man.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:05 PM (DW+jj)

389 hey cooth

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:05 PM (CRotO)

390 379. That you, Terry Lennox?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:06 PM (d0XHp)

391 388 Did you hear Putin is blaming NATO and the West for the assassination of his ambassador in Turkey? The Dems and MSM are blaming him for rigging the election, so he blames us for killing his man.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:05 PM (DW+jj)

---

Cool.

I have WWIII to look forward to.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:06 PM (CRotO)

392 I think it's bullshit that someone who once held office and is a relative of the nominee can be an elector.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 19, 2016 11:05 PM (+eR2D)


Forget it, Jake. It's Clintontown.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 19, 2016 11:07 PM (J8/9G)

393 Mmmm, good eats. Jules really does a good job on the cookies.

Nite for now. This nap may last all nite, time will tell.

Posted by: Farmer at December 19, 2016 11:07 PM (o/90i)

394 So about two weeks ago one of the guys in my group at work didn't show up, which was unusual as he never missed work or came in late. He didn't show up the next day, or the rest of the week. The next week our manager says that he can't say when this guy might come back. Later in the week, our manager lets us know that he won't be coming back to work at all. I was shocked. This was a real stand-up guy, been there 6 years, a model employee. I couldn't believe that he would quit his job. Now I found out that he was let go - because he set up an upskirt cam under one of our female co-worker's desk!! I am absolutely stunned that he did that. He was the last person I would have expected to do anything remotely like that.

Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 11:08 PM (7qAYi)

395 G'Night, Farmer.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:08 PM (6gk0M)

396 hey slap

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:09 PM (CRotO)

397 I think it's bullshit that someone who once held office and is a relative of the nominee can be an elector.
Posted by: @DangerGirl


Welcome to America, 2016

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....Grate American cheese again! at December 19, 2016 11:09 PM (S6Pax)

398 I'm whooped.
Say a little prayer for me, Horde. Family is arriving Wednesday at noon and I'm sick. I want to feel better when they arrive (not to mention trying to get the house ready while being sick is a pain).

See y'all tomorrow.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 19, 2016 11:09 PM (+eR2D)

399 ..."I am absolutely stunned that he did that. He was the last person I would have expected to do anything remotely like that."
-Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 11:08 PM (7qAYi)

People are strange.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:09 PM (6gk0M)

400 So about two weeks ago one of the guys in my group at work didn't show up, which was unusual as he never missed work or came in late. He didn't show up the next day, or the rest of the week. The next week our manager says that he can't say when this guy might come back. Later in the week, our manager lets us know that he won't be coming back to work at all. I was shocked. This was a real stand-up guy, been there 6 years, a model employee. I couldn't believe that he would quit his job. Now I found out that he was let go - because he set up an upskirt cam under one of our female co-worker's desk!! I am absolutely stunned that he did that. He was the last person I would have expected to do anything remotely like that.
Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 11:08 PM (7qAYi)




does he not know how to search google for porn?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:09 PM (cPsPa)

401 IC, I know, right? Like a former model will have a problem with clothes. Just more virtue signaling. They are like a bunch of school girls. The melt downs will be epic.

Posted by: Infidel at December 19, 2016 11:10 PM (a62hT)

402 399. Yep. People do things. It's a known fact.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:10 PM (d0XHp)

403 Howdy, SMFH!

...and G'Night, Dangergirl.

Wishing you the best of health for Christmas!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:10 PM (6gk0M)

404 "I actually saw a piece about a coal tar based antiseptic that was used in WWI. It was linked on Instapundit a week or so ago."

Acriflavine.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 19, 2016 11:11 PM (fYFz4)

405 Maraschino cherries....

Posted by: Aviator at December 19, 2016 11:02 PM (/Nite)

No...too lazy. But the Luxardo are obscenely expensive, and I am running out, so maybe I should.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 19, 2016 11:11 PM (42Mgr)

406 Coal tar is also the active ingredient in Neutrogena shampoo (and some similar ones). It's damn good at taming seborrheic dermatitis, otherwise known as dandruff, bad dandruff.

A friend told me this of course. That friend once tried a CVS knock-off of the Neutrogena. It wasn't any good. So there's some trick in making the stuff work right.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:11 PM (DW+jj)

407 Melania could give new designers a chance, couldn't she?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:12 PM (tHwdc)

408 Mamas, just let your babies grow up to be cowboys,
don't give them a name that just makes them flame.
or they grow up to play with butt-toys.
Just give them a name like old John Wayne,
and they won't tend to have buttsecks with boys.

Posted by: Eromero at December 19, 2016 11:12 PM (zLDYs)

409 hey miley

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:12 PM (CRotO)

410 Did you hear Putin is blaming NATO and the West for the assassination of his ambassador in Turkey? The Dems and MSM are blaming him for rigging the election, so he blames us for killing his man.
Posted by: publius


No, haven't. Because the only official statement from him says it was "certainly a provocation aimed at disrupting the normalisation of Russian-Turkish relations and at derailing the peace process in Syria, which is actively promoted by Russia, Turkey, Iran and other countries interested in the settlement of the Syrian conflict."

And if you're looking in the comments at Youscrewb, obviously it was dah JOOOOOOOOS~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 11:12 PM (ZBp8/)

411 Good evening everyone,

Cute tyke picture

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 19, 2016 11:12 PM (hipNa)

412 Long drive to Atlanta airport and back tomorrow, so calling it an early night. Have fun ya'll.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at December 19, 2016 11:13 PM (w+Jhj)

413 375 I bought some colloidal silver spray for the dogs
for external use, but am tempted to try it myself. IIRC, silver also has
some anti-bacterial properties.


Posted by: Hrothgar

Colloidal silver impregnated cloth is used for dressing large open wounds and is quite effective. It's also fairly easy to make it yourself as long as you have a spare Ron Paul silver dime, there's plenty of how-to youtube videos on it. Also also, some people take it internally for reasons I don't understand, but it is a thing.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 19, 2016 11:13 PM (oZEJt)

414 Hey, Miss Joy!

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:13 PM (tHwdc)

415 "Acriflavine."
-Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 19, 2016 11:11 PM (fYFz4)

Which Kelloggs uses as a flavor enhancement.

...allegedly.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:13 PM (6gk0M)

416 so who do we call to get rid of the super long depressing commercials? some are long enough to be considered short mini series. couple of em must have been nominated for an emmy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:14 PM (cPsPa)

417 Yeah, so not feeling the joy right now...no offense.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:14 PM (CRotO)

418 406

Coal tar is also good for treating psoraisis.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 19, 2016 11:14 PM (rJUlF)

419 putin is pretty good playing this game of mindfuck. another goodbye gift to phuckstick. vlad is pissing in barkys' corn flakes just because he can.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 11:14 PM (KP5rU)

420 Yep, Bubba was an ee-lector for the state of NY

I was wondering where that phrase 'faithless elector' came from. Thanks for clearing that up.

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2016 11:15 PM (hBig8)

421 G'Night, Asheville Robert.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:15 PM (6gk0M)

422 416 so who do we call to get rid of the super long depressing commercials? some are long enough to be considered short mini series. couple of em must have been nominated for an emmy.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:14 PM (cPsPa)

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Easy.

Don't watch them.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:15 PM (CRotO)

423 Anybody surprised that a Russian bigwig blamed "the West" i.e. Nato for the assassination of their ambassador to Turkey?

After all, "we," meaning the left and its minions in the press, have been blaming the Rooskies for tilting our election, for going on seven weeks now.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 19, 2016 11:16 PM (U6f54)

424 I thought there was a quote from Obama along the lines of 'just learned that aluminum is not magnetic.'

Can't find a thing on the web searches.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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Stand by
*dives into the archives*
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
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*rises gasping for air*

That was tougher than I expected:

"At an Alcoa plant in Davenport, Iowa, in June, Obama observed machines that milled aerospace parts. He then approached a handful of reporters who had been watching nearby: "Did you know aluminum is not magnetic? I learned something today."

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zmhqx2z

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 11:16 PM (ZO497)

425 Does anyone else get a chuckle over the fact that Dems SCREAMED for days ... threatened... cajoled....

Even made Hollywood videos trying to get Trump's Electoral College folks to switch...

But the only Electors who switched were FIVE who were supposed to vote for Hillary?

Posted by: Don Q. at December 19, 2016 11:16 PM (qf6WZ)

426 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 11:16 PM (ZO497)

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The stupid leading the stupid.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:17 PM (CRotO)

427 Yeah a faithless elector is one who promises a girl he won't do that thing in her mouth -- and then stains her dress as well.

I think Adams and Jefferson both accused each other of doing that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:18 PM (DW+jj)

428 389 hey cooth

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:05 PM (CRotO)



Howdy, howdy. And, boy, do I ever agree with the sentiment in your nic.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 19, 2016 11:18 PM (EzgxV)

429 Knowing that Hillary Will Never be President is good enough of a present for me.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:18 PM (6gk0M)

430 Notice the tone of the Putin statement. No weepy words, no meaningless palaver - just a man of the world speaking of the things in it. Very different style.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:19 PM (d0XHp)

431 Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:14 PM (CRotO)

I hear ya, sweetheart. Just a reminder.


For both of us.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:19 PM (tHwdc)

432 "I am absolutely stunned that he did that. He was the last person I would have expected to do anything remotely like that."

Geez. Why didn't he just spend his workday looking at online porn like government workers?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2016 11:19 PM (+lVUW)

433 OK, so I can refuse to, say, perform an oil change on your car, because you're a . . . Democrat?

That's cool.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 19, 2016 11:19 PM (U6f54)

434
"At an Alcoa plant in Davenport, Iowa, in June, Obama observed machines that milled aerospace parts. He then approached a handful of reporters who had been watching nearby: "Did you know aluminum is not magnetic? I learned something today."

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zmhqx2z
Posted by: Mike Hammer


Thanks. They made that one hard to find. Surprised it wasn't entirely wiped.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 11:19 PM (ZBp8/)

435 "Yeah a faithless elector is one who promises a girl he won't do that thing in her mouth -- and then stains her dress as well.
I think Adams and Jefferson both accused each other of doing that.
"
-Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:18 PM (DW+jj)

*HAH!*

...indeed.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:19 PM (6gk0M)

436 Easy.

Don't watch them.
Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:15 PM (CRotO)




yeah, yeah, yeah. when I cannot fall asleep and do not have anything valuable to contribute here I will try to doze off in front of the tv. unfortunately every few minutes you get some awful commercial listing dozens of diseases and side effects and or with all kinds of eerie voiceovers and medical equipment. would really just like to fall asleep without the misery.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:19 PM (cPsPa)

437
Melania may well give some sort of F-you to all those designers. Remember what she did at the debate right after the pussy grabbing thing broke? She wore a dress called a "Pussy Bow".

So she may doing something similar.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:20 PM (DW+jj)

438 The stupid leading the stupid.
Posted by: SMFH
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Tut, tut, m'lady. This is the fellow who promised to "restore science to its proper role". I'm thinking the chap knows a lot about science.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 11:20 PM (ZO497)

439 But the only Electors who switched were FIVE who were supposed to vote for Hillary?

Posted by: Don Q. at December 19, 2016 11:16 PM (qf6WZ)

Of course. Just like she lost votes in the recounts.

hahahahahaha

Posted by: Infidel at December 19, 2016 11:20 PM (a62hT)

440 Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:19 PM (tHwdc)

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It's not working for me.

Right now, all I want to do is break things.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:21 PM (CRotO)

441 re coal tar via psoriasis.org:

However, the FDA maintains that OTC products with coal tar concentrations between 0.5 percent and 5 percent are safe and effective for psoriasis, and there is no scientific evidence that the tar in OTC products is carcinogenic.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 19, 2016 11:21 PM (oZEJt)

442 >>No...too lazy. But the Luxardo are obscenely expensive, and I am running out, so maybe I should.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 19, 2016 11:11 PM (42Mgr)
Can you get fresh cherries in your area this time of year?

Posted by: Aviator at December 19, 2016 11:22 PM (/Nite)

443 Thanks. They made that one hard to find. Surprised it wasn't entirely wiped.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
------------

The article, or the Alcoa plant? Because, you know, he has left a wake of failed businesses behind his visits.

Even destroyed a BBQ restaurant here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 11:22 PM (ZO497)

444 Now I found out that he was let go - because he set up an upskirt cam
under one of our female co-worker's desk!! I am absolutely stunned that
he did that. He was the last person I would have expected to do anything
remotely like that.

Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 11:08 PM (7qAYi)





Some months ago I got a call from the local sheriff's office - apparently some perv did something similar to me while I was in line at the cash register at Wegman's. Put his camera in his bag and set it on the floor to film up my skirt.

It doesn't even make sense, for Pete's sake - why not pick on some young hottie?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:22 PM (tHwdc)

445 406 Coal tar is also the active ingredient in Neutrogena shampoo (and some similar ones). It's damn good at taming seborrheic dermatitis, otherwise known as dandruff, bad dandruff.

A friend told me this of course. That friend once tried a CVS knock-off of the Neutrogena. It wasn't any good. So there's some trick in making the stuff work right.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:11 PM (DW+jj)



Also see ichthammol ointment, which does magic things to boils (but may leave a dark stain that lasts years). It's a drawing salve.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 19, 2016 11:22 PM (EzgxV)

446 "Notice the tone of the Putin statement. No weepy words, no meaningless palaver - just a man of the world speaking of the things in it. Very different style."
-Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:19 PM (d0XHp)

We've all know the Democratic Bullshit for years.

No reason to raise Putin for any sort of praise whatsoever.

I get what you're saying, but...

Things are still what they are and that KGB Bastard needs to be taken down to 1991-levels.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:23 PM (6gk0M)

447 187 whiskey and whisky should both be consumed at room temp, with a bit of water added.

no ice, and no bubbles. just sip it. the water drops the proof a bit, so the alcohol doesn't lock up your taste buds. ice deadens them as well, hence no ice.

same for rum, etc.

vodka? who cares? straight shots from the freezer or mixed.

========
I learned my whiskey drinking when I was in a pipe band.
Single malt, room temp, alternate with small sips of room temp water, that way the alcohol won't numb the taste buds and the whiskey stretchs longer. Which is a good thing at these prices.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at December 19, 2016 11:23 PM (FeQVL)

448 Right now, all I want to do is break things.

I should send you my sister's address.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016 11:24 PM (IcT7t)

449 I went to a bath once where, after the steam, you flogged yourself with fresh birch branches.

The scent of that birch was amazing. Oil of cade, though, is hard to come by.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:24 PM (d0XHp)

450 Silver nitrate? Has that been mentioned?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 11:24 PM (ZO497)

451 I should send you my sister's address.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016 11:24 PM (IcT7t)

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That would require me leaving the house.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:24 PM (CRotO)

452 smfh: there is a twenty room mansion in d.c. phuckstick is going to rent. you could help redecorate by going there and wrecking a bunch of trashy shit. don't forget the spray paint.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 11:25 PM (KP5rU)

453 Some months ago I got a call from the local sheriff's office - apparently some perv did something similar to me while I was in line at the cash register at Wegman's. Put his camera in his bag and set it on the floor to film up my skirt.

It doesn't even make sense, for Pete's sake - why not pick on some young hottie?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:22 PM (tHwdc)

And my co-worker chose to do this in late fall - no one has been wearing skirts since Labor Day around here. People are strange.

Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 11:25 PM (7qAYi)

454 It doesn't even make sense, for Pete's sake - why not pick on some young hottie?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:22 PM (tHwdc)

The same reason that a middle-class housewife shoplifts from the supermarket: it's the thrill of the danger that excites them.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 11:26 PM (FYrz1)

455 That would require me leaving the house.

It's OK. She doesn't really have all that much stuff to break anyway.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016 11:26 PM (IcT7t)

456 Obama commutes sentences of 1,176 , including 54 serving life sentences.

Didn't Castro do something like this when he opened the prisons and criminals poured out into society?

Posted by: gracepc at December 19, 2016 11:26 PM (OU4q6)

457 yeah, yeah, yeah. when I cannot fall asleep and do
not have anything valuable to contribute here I will try to doze off in
front of the tv. unfortunately every few minutes you get some awful
commercial listing dozens of diseases and side effects and or with all
kinds of eerie voiceovers and medical equipment. would really just like
to fall asleep without the misery.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:19 PM (cPsPa)


I used to lull myself to sleep with MST3k. Good for about a 90 minute nap.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 19, 2016 11:26 PM (9MInk)

458 And right now, since all my so-called family and friends are with their friends and families, I see no need to leave the house.

Don't even have to worry about cooking for anyone this year.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:27 PM (CRotO)

459 332 I love this ingrained idea, this notion these assholes have that Melania Trump wants or needs their help. I mean, look at her. She's what we in the retail business used to call a "clothes hanger"-- everything looks good on her. Target could dress her and she'll wear it like Valentino.

I think it would be hilarious if Melania chose to do just that. Buy stuff that most middle class women could afford and look amazing in it. It would drive the left nuts.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 10:52 PM (FYrz1)

Name three things that don't drive the left mad.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 19, 2016 11:27 PM (s7hQ/)

460 "I went to a bath once where, after the steam, you flogged yourself with fresh birch branches.
The scent of that birch was amazing. Oil of cade, though, is hard to come by.
"
-Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:24 PM (d0XHp)

You lead a silly life; or at least you had a silly incident.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:27 PM (6gk0M)

461
Does anyone else get a chuckle over the fact that Dems SCREAMED for days ... threatened... cajoled....



Even made Hollywood videos trying to get Trump's Electoral College folks to switch...



But the only Electors who switched were FIVE who were supposed to vote for Hillary?
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I believe that is a sign that God still loves America.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:27 PM (Zla+B)

462 452 smfh: there is a twenty room mansion in d.c. phuckstick is going to rent. you could help redecorate by going there and wrecking a bunch of trashy shit. don't forget the spray paint.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 11:25 PM (KP5rU)

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*snort*

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:27 PM (CRotO)

463 Some months ago I got a call from the local sheriff's office - apparently some perv did something similar to me while I was in line at the cash register at Wegman's. Put his camera in his bag and set it on the floor to film up my skirt.

It doesn't even make sense, for Pete's sake - why not pick on some young hottie?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:22 PM (tHwdc)




caught some guy doing that on the subway one day. he had a little camera sticking out from the bottom of his briefcase. I went and stood in front of him / behind the girl in the skirt. he should have some really nice footage of the lining of my trench coat.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:27 PM (cPsPa)

464

Things are still what they are and that KGB Bastard needs to be taken down to 1991-levels.
Posted by: Slapweasel


By doing what exactly?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2016 11:27 PM (IqV8l)

465 I read somewhere on FB that Mooch has signed with the Harlem Globetrotters.

Posted by: CitizenX at December 19, 2016 11:28 PM (mvyKt)

466 >>>doesn't even make sense, for Pete's sake - why not pick on some young hottie?



Cuz Miley is a hawtie

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 19, 2016 11:28 PM (voOPb)

467 I went to a bath once where, after the steam, you flogged yourself with fresh birch branches.

The scent of that birch was amazing. Oil of cade, though, is hard to come by.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:24 PM (d0XHp)

I would love to have a house with some space out back for a sauna and a soaking tub full of cold water. Heat up and clean yourself with olive oil ala the romans, then whip yourself with birth branches before finishing off with a cold soak.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 11:29 PM (FYrz1)

468 >>I read somewhere on FB that Mooch has signed with the Harlem Globetrotters.

Posted by: CitizenX

I think it was the Chicago Bears.

Posted by: Aviator at December 19, 2016 11:29 PM (/Nite)

469 Doesn't Melania have her own clothing line? She doesn't need anyone to "dress" her.

Though I'd be willing to offer my services...

Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 11:29 PM (7qAYi)

470 Right now, all I want to do is break things.
Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:21

Go ahead, just remember you will have to clean up the mess.

Be well and I'm glad 2016 is almost over.

Now 2017 will give us Trump, that should be fun. Be well SMFH and ya'll. Niter's.

Posted by: Farmer at December 19, 2016 11:29 PM (o/90i)

471 Oh hell you always knew when someone was going to bail on the other end of the see saw and straightened your legs and took the shock with bent knees. No problem.

Posted by: Cannibal bob at December 19, 2016 11:29 PM (AGr9E)

472 caught some guy doing that on the subway one day. he had a little camera sticking out from the bottom of his briefcase. I went and stood in front of him / behind the girl in the skirt. he should have some really nice footage of the lining of my trench coat.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:27 PM (cPsPa)

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Reason #2528292 why I don't wear dresses or skirts.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:29 PM (CRotO)

473 460. A series of silly incidents. But it was nice, really nice.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:29 PM (d0XHp)

474 "By doing what exactly?"
-Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2016 11:27 PM (IqV8l)

I don't know. I'm not that bright. You probably skip my comments because of that.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:30 PM (6gk0M)

475 I used to lull myself to sleep with MST3k. Good for about a 90 minute nap.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 19, 2016 11:26 PM (9MInk)




my go to is the old columbo / mccloud / mcmillan and wife shows. I have a dvr full of them. one show is good for a nearly a week because they put me to sleep reasonably quickly, if the commercials do not keep waking me up.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:30 PM (cPsPa)

476 Been a helluva year, that's for sure. We had a massive plumbing catastrophe, and three major appliance failures in the span of five months.

And yet we're okay, because I've had a shit-ton of overtime pretty much all year.

But election night lifted a weight off my chest I barely knew was there. I'd been losing sleep, my BP spiked a lot, my appetite waned. I did not fully realize just how much the thought of the Beast being elected was gnawing at me.

But. All is well. I sleep better, and my desire to vaporize shitty drivers has slacked somewhat.

Plus I managed to shovel my driveway last weekend without dying. It's the little things.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at December 19, 2016 11:30 PM (1oVdo)

477 It's not working for me.



Right now, all I want to do is break things.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:21 PM (CRotO)

Maybe a trip to the shooting range would help?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:31 PM (tHwdc)

478 467. See? This guy gets it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:31 PM (d0XHp)

479 nite farmer.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 11:31 PM (KP5rU)

480 ...as you should, Bertram.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:31 PM (6gk0M)

481 Reason #2528292 why I don't wear dresses or skirts.
Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:29 PM (CRotO)




friend of a friend fell asleep on the subway going home from work late. when she woke up there was a homeless guy / hobo sitting opposite from her waxing the bat. she said he was not being threatening.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:31 PM (cPsPa)

482 Oh, have to push back Carl's memorial service til after the new year.

hopefully, will have the funds by then.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:32 PM (CRotO)

483 Maybe a trip to the shooting range would help?
Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:31 PM (tHwdc)

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Would if I could afford to.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:32 PM (CRotO)

484 "I went to a bath once where, after the steam, you flogged yourself with fresh birch branches.

The scent of that birch was amazing. Oil of cade, though, is hard to come by."

-Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:24 PM (d0XHp)

Not a true flogging, just to stimulate the skin surface. Classic sauna ritual.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:32 PM (tHwdc)

485 http://preview.tinyurl.com/hk7ss6j

Don't know if it's ironic or not -- this is the same artist who painted "Reagan in a Mustang breaking through a fence" and "Roosevelt fighting Bigfoot."

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 19, 2016 11:33 PM (Gv1ao)

486 467. This was a really nice place I went. They'd even press your clothes and shine your shoes for you while you bathed.

I felt like a million bucks when I stepped out of there.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:33 PM (d0XHp)

487
I looked it up. It wasn't Putin himself who claimed it was the West behind the assassination of the ambassador, but a Russian senator who was the deputy chairman of the "defense and security" committee of the Russian senate, a Putin lackey.

He said it could be ISIS, or the Kurds, but it is most likely a "representative of the foreign NATO secret services" behind it. He vowed that this will make Russia determined to annihilate the terrorists in Syria opposing Russian forces.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:34 PM (DW+jj)

488 Posted by: gracepc at December 19, 2016 11:26 PM (OU4q6)

ooops/ That's 1, 176 commuted of which 395 were serving life sentences.

Posted by: gracepc at December 19, 2016 11:35 PM (OU4q6)

489 today, phuckstick started circling the bowl. next month, that useless toilet fish will be on his way to a sewage plant somewhere around d.c. then, off to the atlantic. you know how he loves vacations. this alone makes things bearable. and, hellary will never be president.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 11:35 PM (KP5rU)

490 Reason #2528292 why I don't wear dresses or skirts.
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Reason #7583848583 not to leave the house...

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:35 PM (Zla+B)

491 'Night, all.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 19, 2016 11:35 PM (Gv1ao)

492 I live a sheltered life. Mow grass, fix shit, run the snowblower, fix shit.

Ohio is boring.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:35 PM (6gk0M)

493 484. Well, I exaggerated, slightly. But, yeah, grab a few, dunk 'em in hot water, and go to it. Good for the skin and circulation, and that smell.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:35 PM (d0XHp)

494 465 I read somewhere on FB that Mooch has signed with the Harlem Globetrotters.
Posted by: CitizenX at December 19, 2016 11:28 PM (mvyKt)



I read somewhere that she's hooked up a gig as a body double for Harambe.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 19, 2016 11:35 PM (SRKgf)

495 G'Night, Trimegistus.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:36 PM (6gk0M)

496 caught some guy doing that on the subway one day.
he had a little camera sticking out from the bottom of his briefcase. I
went and stood in front of him / behind the girl in the skirt. he
should have some really nice footage of the lining of my trench coat.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:27 PM (cPsPa)


This is one of the reasons I consider you to be a moron in good standing, y5.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:36 PM (tHwdc)

497 Reason #7583848583 not to leave the house...
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:35 PM (Zla+B)

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Yep.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:36 PM (CRotO)

498 I live a sheltered life. Mow grass, fix shit, run the snowblower, fix shit.



Ohio is boring.
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Feed cat. Mow grass. Computer Things. Run Snowblower.

Greetings from the Thrill Fest that is Michigan.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:37 PM (Zla+B)

499 Cuz Miley is a hawtie

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 19, 2016 11:28 PM (voOPb)

Oh, enough of your false advertising, you sweet man!

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:37 PM (tHwdc)

500 The article, or the Alcoa plant? Because, you know, he has left a wake of failed businesses behind his visits.

Even destroyed a BBQ restaurant here.
Posted by: Mike Hamme


The article you sited wasn't focused the Alcoa visit. It was a stupid fluff piece on a WH 'science day' that just happened to reiterate his Alcoa quotes.

Can't find the quote from the visit.

Do a Googie search with just "Did you know aluminum is not magnetic? I learned something today."


Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 11:38 PM (ZBp8/)

501 Harrumph!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 19, 2016 11:38 PM (ZLQuU)

502 You know what baby name needs to make a comeback?



Edsel.






And Groucho.

Posted by: eleven at December 19, 2016 11:39 PM (qUNWi)

503
Name three things that don't drive the left mad.
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Liberals LOVE:

1. Black Lives Matter
2. Abortion
3 Gaia.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:39 PM (Zla+B)

504 Do a Googie search with just "Did you know aluminum is not magnetic? I learned something today."

Smartest President retard ever.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 19, 2016 11:39 PM (SRKgf)

505 163 60 so is anyone around here a manhattan afficionado?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM

NEW YORK CITY ????????
Posted by: Often Heard In Texas at December 19, 2016 10:19 PM (DMUuz)

Not us.

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 19, 2016 11:39 PM (brIR5)

506 "Feed cat. Mow grass. Computer Things. Run Snowblower.
Greetings from the Thrill Fest that is Michigan.
"
-Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:37 PM (Zla+B)

That said, I like my life.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:39 PM (6gk0M)

507 People are strange.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:09 PM (6gk0M)

Tell me about it.

I've jumped right from widow Cray Cray to Cray Cray roommates within about a 2 week period. Including someone who declared her love for me, wanted to make me happy in every way then 2 days later is going back to crazy man.

This year can't end soon enough.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 19, 2016 11:39 PM (D2vc1)

508 This is one of the reasons I consider you to be a moron in good standing, y5.
Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:36 PM (tHwdc)




Well that is high praise indeed, coming from an esteemed moronette and royalty as well.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:40 PM (cPsPa)

509 That was supposed to be socked with Kings, Richmond, Queens and Bronx counties.

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 19, 2016 11:40 PM (brIR5)

510 But. All is well. I sleep better, and my desire to vaporize shitty drivers has slacked somewhat.



Plus I managed to shovel my driveway last weekend without dying. It's the little things.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at December 19, 2016 11:30 PM (1oVdo)

It is. Congratulations and I hope you continue not dying. Don't overload the shovel and rest and enjoy the fresh air in between.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:41 PM (tHwdc)

511 Seconded. 2017 has to be better.

Posted by: Infidel at December 19, 2016 11:41 PM (a62hT)

512 The Mass. state supreme court, whatever they call it, ruled that "upskirting" was okey dokey, and did not violate privacy laws back in 2014. I think the legislature then changed the law to make it a crime.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:41 PM (DW+jj)

513 've jumped right from widow Cray Cray to Cray Cray roommates within about a 2 week period. Including someone who declared her love for me, wanted to make me happy in every way then 2 days later is going back to crazy man.


Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 19, 2016 11:39 PM (D2vc1)




how were the two days? were you happy in every way?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:42 PM (cPsPa)

514 448 Right now, all I want to do is break things.
I should send you my sister's address.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016

Psycho-ette Basura?! She wears crocs instead of choos, doesn't she?

Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy at December 19, 2016 11:42 PM (hscyr)

515 Yeah Putin's statement contains the expected amount of diplo-blather, but overall he speaks directly and simply. Watching the video for language practice. He's got a sort of unassuming, plain style (no surprise from someone of his background). Doesn't enunciate as clearly as Gorbachev, slurs a bit and harder to follow like Yeltsin, but faster.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2016 11:42 PM (QDnY+)

516
Seconded. 2017 has to be better.

At least it will prove to be "interesting."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2016 11:42 PM (IqV8l)

517 "I've jumped right from widow Cray Cray to Cray Cray roommates within about a 2 week period. Including someone who declared her love for me, wanted to make me happy in every way then 2 days later is going back to crazy man.

This year can't end soon enough.
"
-Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 19, 2016 11:39 PM (D2vc1)

There are precursors to "crazy". It is "odd", then "wacky" then "Leaving wacky at the side of the road.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:42 PM (6gk0M)

518 The Mass. state supreme court, whatever they call it, ruled that "upskirting" was okey dokey, and did not violate privacy laws back in 2014. I think the legislature then changed the law to make it a crime.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:41 PM (DW+jj)




that was for public places like stairs and escalators. was it recording?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:43 PM (cPsPa)

519 Some months ago I got a call from the local sheriff's office - apparently some perv did something similar to me while I was in line at the cash register at Wegman's. Put his camera in his bag and set it on the floor to film up my skirt.

It doesn't even make sense, for Pete's sake - why not pick on some young hottie?



Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:22 PM (tHwdc)

So, um, how did they know it was you???

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 19, 2016 11:43 PM (D2vc1)

520 A story:

Yesterday, I was watching Star Trek, the animated series, and Harry Mudd gave Nurse Chapel a crystal that would make Spock fall in love with her.

To which I thought "who would I like to fall in love with me?"

And... I had no answer. Nothing. Completely blank.

Then, because I obviously need frequent psychotherapy, I thought, "yeah, maybe the ex-boss who is a chronic liar. I'd wouldn't mind him falling in love with me just so I could reject him and consequently destroy him emotionally."

Question for the horde: if you were single, who would you want to fall in love with you and why?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:44 PM (Zla+B)

521 I've never watched Steven Colbear before. He's a fucking idiot.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 19, 2016 11:44 PM (89T5c)

522
When Putin walks, he always keep his gun hand at the ready. It looks sort of awkward, and that's the way KGB agents were trained. Always walk with your gun hand ready to draw.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:44 PM (DW+jj)

523 It doesn't even make sense, for Pete's sake - why not pick on some young hottie?



Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:22 PM (tHwdc)




hot is hot

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:45 PM (cPsPa)

524 Mull wine, now be at it my good man....

And that was Conan's mouth-over for Billy Jeff, I believe.

Posted by: micky at December 19, 2016 11:45 PM (o5vMc)

525 amy schumer hawking old navy? ho lee phuck, she must work cheap. like for free beer or something. and, fuck old navy.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 11:45 PM (KP5rU)

526 I've jumped right from widow Cray Cray to Cray Cray
roommates within about a 2 week period. Including someone who declared
her love for me, wanted to make me happy in every way then 2 days later
is going back to crazy man.



This year can't end soon enough.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 19, 2016 11:39 PM (D2vc1)


Maybe you should sleep for the next 12 days. 2017 has to be better.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:46 PM (tHwdc)

527 Boils? Splinters? Use epsom salt soaks or poultices to draw them out. Cheap and effective per many website references.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 19, 2016 11:46 PM (oZEJt)

528 Question for the horde: if you were single, who would you want to fall in love with you and why?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:44 PM (Zla+B)


I got nothin'.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 11:46 PM (0mRoj)

529 Who exactly does Marc Jacobs think will be hurt by Trump? Is he going to start designing clothes for illegal aliens? Syrian refugees? BLM protesters? Trigglypuff?

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 19, 2016 11:46 PM (P8951)

530 I think a lot of the younuns today have no idea what the KGB was and that Putin was one. It boggles.

Posted by: Infidel at December 19, 2016 11:46 PM (a62hT)

531 Well that is high praise indeed, coming from an esteemed moronette and royalty as well.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:40 PM (cPsPa)

UNINDICTED royalty - that's important.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:47 PM (tHwdc)

532 Argue with wife, fix snowblower, fall down blowing snow, repair knee & elbow.

But life is good cause Barky moving out & no Clinton's moving in.

Posted by: CitizenX at December 19, 2016 11:47 PM (mvyKt)

533 A guy in my platoon in BCT used to drink Mennen Skin Bracer, the green crap.

Posted by: CMU VET at December 19, 2016 11:47 PM (C+wjz)

534 469 Doesn't Melania have her own clothing line? She doesn't need anyone to "dress" her.

Though I'd be willing to offer my services...
Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 11:29 PM (7qAYi)

Melanie has basically three choices:

Her own designs
Ivanka's designs
Whatever is being sold in one of the shops in Trump Tower (or any other Trump property)

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 19, 2016 11:47 PM (brIR5)

535 UNINDICTED royalty - that's important.
Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:47 PM (tHwdc)




thousand pardons your highness.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:48 PM (cPsPa)

536 521: that's giving idiots a bad name. i know a few idiots that actually have some redeeming social value.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 11:48 PM (KP5rU)

537 Question for the horde: if you were single, who would you want to fall in love with you and why?
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Someone with a love for providing geriatric care.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 11:49 PM (ZO497)

538 I should send you my sister's address.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 19, 2016 11:24 PM (IcT7t)

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That would require me leaving the house.
Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over


I say nay, nay ...

Posted by: Adriane's Voo Doo Doll Emporium, now with Virtual Reality Barbie ... at December 19, 2016 11:50 PM (AoK0a)

539 Torpedo fuel... until the Navy wised up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 19, 2016 11:50 PM (ZO497)

540 505 163 60 so is anyone around here a manhattan afficionado?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 10:01 PM

Dude...absolutely. Mixed some up last night & decorated the Christmas tree.

Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy at December 19, 2016 11:50 PM (hscyr)

541 Question for the horde: if you were single, who would you want to fall in love with you and why?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:44 PM (Zla+B)


Taylor Swift. She's cute and rich.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 19, 2016 11:50 PM (FYrz1)

542 Question for the horde: if you were single, who would you want to fall in love with you and why?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:44 PM (Zla+B)

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Divorced.

Widowed.

Yeah, not interested.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:50 PM (CRotO)

543 Russian Duma figures often are in fact mouthing the regime's line with one degree of separation, but also are often just sharing their own wisdom. In this case, who knows.


Russian news is reporting that the US has offered to help Turkey and Russia with the investigation of the assassination this morning.


And one funny thing I hadn't noticed before. The Russian transliteration of Trump, for some reason, would be pronounced "tramp" in English. Not sure why they don't use a "u" (they have one, though it's always a long one, as in "chute"). So, it's soon to be President Tramp for Russian news consumers.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2016 11:50 PM (QDnY+)

544 Question for the horde: if you were single, who would you want to fall in love with you and why?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:44 PM (Zla+B)

No one. I really don't know many women & the ones I do know I'm not in love with.

Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 11:50 PM (7qAYi)

545 ...Put his camera in his bag and set it on the floor to film up my skirt.

It doesn't even make sense, for Pete's sake - why not pick on some young hottie?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR
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Isn't this where rule #34 gets called into play?

Posted by: Chi at December 19, 2016 11:51 PM (0g+ZS)

546 I got nothin'.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 19, 2016 11:46 PM (0mRoj)

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Makes two of us.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:51 PM (CRotO)

547 Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:22 PM (tHwdc)



So, um, how did they know it was you???





Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 19, 2016 11:43 PM (D2vc1)

Observant store security - they had a grainy photo of me by the register and my Wegman's club card, along with my receipt. I was buying some supplies for a beach vacation. I remembered that day.
What bothers me is how much goes on around me that I'm completely clueless about. I'm like the exact opposite of the Secret Service.
Including, apparently, their fondness for hookers.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:51 PM (tHwdc)

548 Question for the horde: if you were single, who would you want to fall in love with you and why?

Posted by: shibumi


Elderly billionaire with a penchant for ice-diving and mochi*.

*japanese joke

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2016 11:51 PM (ZBp8/)

549 hi chi

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:51 PM (CRotO)

550 Dude...absolutely. Mixed some up last night & decorated the Christmas tree.
Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy at December 19, 2016 11:50 PM (hscyr)




Bebe's!


What are your preferred ingredients?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:52 PM (cPsPa)

551 Time for bed. good night, all.

Posted by: josephistan at December 19, 2016 11:52 PM (7qAYi)

552 543. 'Troomp' would sound odd. Tramp is pretty close.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:52 PM (d0XHp)

553 Who would I want to fall in love with? My wife, I suppose, but don't think it's gonna happen.

But, never say never, right? If Mooch can sign with the Bears, who knows?

Posted by: CitizenX at December 19, 2016 11:53 PM (mvyKt)

554 *waves towards the Raiderette

Posted by: Chi at December 19, 2016 11:54 PM (0g+ZS)

555 Her own designs
Ivanka's designs
Whatever is being sold in one of the shops in Trump Tower (or any other Trump property)
Posted by: Fox 2! at December 19, 2016 11:47 PM (brIR5)

I hope Ivanka designs Melania's inaugural gown. It would be great if it was modestly priced and something ordinary women could buy themselves. The pink dress Ivanka wore at the Convention (which cost something like $150.) was lovely and sold like hotcakes afterward.

It would serve these designers right if they realized that they were missing a huge opportunity by refusing to dress a supermodel First Lady.

I'm sure none of them had any problems accepting orders from Melania before Trump ran for President.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 19, 2016 11:54 PM (P8951)

556 Pure Copper Magnetic Bracelet From Earth Therapy - For Men & Women To Give Relief To Arthritis, RSI, Carpal Tunnel, Migraines, Fatigue & More

It's frightening that so few people will see what's wrong with that.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 19, 2016 10:40 PM (uyrlv)

Well, of course it's not magnetism, but many people do claim to find relief from those sorts of ills by wearing copper bracelets. If there is any more to it than placebo effect, I'd bet it is due to tiny amounts of copper getting into the bloodstream via skin absorption.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2016 11:54 PM (MiBfH)

557 I remember a time when "There was no God" for SMFH.

What I'm hearing is positively hopeful and blessed.

The whole "breaking things" mantra isn't conducive to winning. She'll get over it, because leftists are bloviating, over-confident weaklings.

Just because they reside in her Family doesn't mean that they own her soul.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:55 PM (6gk0M)

558 Once again Horde, you have made me feel better.

I really could not think of anyone I'd want to fall in love with me, and was wondering if I either had a lack of imagination or simply needed a lot of medication. I'm glad I'm not the only one who came up with a blank on that question.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:55 PM (Zla+B)

559 G'Night, josephistan.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:55 PM (6gk0M)

560 I'm here, slap.

No need to speak of me in the 3rd person.

yeah, there's a God.

Doesn't mean we're exactly on speaking terms right now.

Besides, He has Carl.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 19, 2016 11:56 PM (CRotO)

561 556. The placebo effect is still an effect. Works quite well, and quite often, too.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 19, 2016 11:57 PM (d0XHp)

562 hot is hot

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:45 PM (cPsPa)

I suppose there is the "idea" of hot, as divorced from the superficial qualifiers.

Yeah, I'll go with that.

>>Question for the horde: if you were single, who would you want to fall in love with you and why?



Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:44 PM (Zla+B)


Ladies have a tendency to make lists of qualities. I don't think guys do that.
Anyway, I've made lists in the past, and none of them worked. Two of the most important things that Mr. Deplorable did for me never appeared on any list - he brought me closer to God and closer to my family. So I don't even try to do the list thing.
I do recall wishing that I could meet a man who would teach me about wine. Mr. D did that.
I suppose if I had to make a wish about the next one (whenever I may be ready to kill off another husband), I would hope he could teach me how to shoot.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:58 PM (tHwdc)

563 nite all.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 19, 2016 11:58 PM (KP5rU)

564 I was speaking to others on my own behalf.

I dare not speak for an 'Ette.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:58 PM (6gk0M)

565
Fashionista said they weren't going to cover Melania at all. Fascist, racist, homo/transphobic, genocide and all that. They said Melania had some big fashion shoes to fill following Mooch. They said that.

Anyway, they got some snooty digs at Melania, calling her a low-end model, and that she wore "off the rack" clothes. It was hilarious.

To compare her and Mooch, well there's no comparison. Yet they all pretended Mooch was some sort of super model fashion plate.

Melania makes Jackie O. look like a bag lady.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 19, 2016 11:58 PM (DW+jj)

566 Once again Horde, you have made me feel better.

I really could not think of anyone I'd want to fall in love with me, and was wondering if I either had a lack of imagination or simply needed a lot of medication. I'm glad I'm not the only one who came up with a blank on that question.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 19, 2016 11:55 PM (Zla+B)




well, yeah but the thing is you asked a hard question. if you had posed that question the day before I met my wife, Mrs. YankeeFifth, I would have drawn a blank too. The week after I met her I would have had a name.

you need to cast a wider net.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016 11:58 PM (cPsPa)

567 And one funny thing I hadn't noticed before. The Russian transliteration of Trump, for some reason, would be pronounced "tramp" in English. Not sure why they don't use a "u" (they have one, though it's always a long one, as in "chute"). So, it's soon to be President Tramp for Russian news consumers.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 19, 2016 11:50 PM (QDnY+)


What's wrong with
Трумп?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 19, 2016 11:58 PM (SRKgf)

568 So who would *I* want to fall in love with me?

I admit, I want a woman who is *slightly* out of my league. (Because, among other reasons, most of the women who are *in* my league are also toothless and homeless.)

I want her to be a little bit exotic, a Christian, not afraid to have fun, be struggling with risk-taking like I am, supportive of my writing/filmmaking, and yes I admit it: I want her to be able to support me a little bit (but she doesn't have to be rich, or give me an allowance; I'd just like her to be a bit more well-off than I am as well).

I know, I have impossible standards. Oh well.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 11:58 PM (u8kLQ)

569 G'Night, Chavez.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 19, 2016 11:58 PM (6gk0M)

570 550. Bebe's! What are your preferred ingredients?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 19, 2016

Sigh. Ok I'll tell you, but if CBD ridicules my father's recipe again, you have to kick his ass. Agreed?

2 parts Canadian Club, 1 part martini & Rossi sweet vermouth, 1/2 part martini & Rossi dry vermouth, dash of angostura bitters, splash of maraschino cherry juice,

Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy at December 19, 2016 11:59 PM (hscyr)

571 They said Melania had some big fashion shoes to fill following Mooch. They said that. /i]


Size twelves, to be exact.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 19, 2016 11:59 PM (SRKgf)

572 Red Hot Chili Peppers, Wet Sand

https://youtu.be/-66h7hHWx8Q

The music is good too.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 19, 2016 11:59 PM (VdICR)

573 125
The real shame of Venezuela:



Totally. Predictable.

*****

member when Obama went down and high fived Hugo Chavez? He wanted that same crap sandwich for America.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 19, 2016 11:59 PM (18h+i)

574 Question for the horde: if you were single, who would you want to fall in love with you and why?

No interest. Like my checking account.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2016 12:00 AM (9Q5BJ)

575 Ladies have a tendency to make lists of qualities. I don't think guys do that.
Anyway, I've made lists in the past, and none of them worked. Two of the most important things that Mr. Deplorable did for me never appeared on any list - he brought me closer to God and closer to my family. So I don't even try to do the list thing.
I do recall wishing that I could meet a man who would teach me about wine. Mr. D did that.
I suppose if I had to make a wish about the next one (whenever I may be ready to kill off another husband), I would hope he could teach me how to shoot.
Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 19, 2016 11:58 PM (tHwdc)




scotch down the windpipe.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:00 AM (cPsPa)

576 It would serve these designers right if they
realized that they were missing a huge opportunity by refusing to dress a
supermodel First Lady.



I'm sure none of them had any problems accepting orders from Melania before Trump ran for President.
Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersandsand so there at December 19, 2016 11:54 PM (P8951)


I suppose it is a matter of pride to create a 15 grand designer dress, but how many can you sell? 12 in a lifetime if you are lucky, and probably not that many since I would guess a lot of the ladies that can dump that sort of money on a dress all know each other

But a dress the first lady wore that is $200? You could get rich that way, and have fun doing it too. Every hausfrau would want one, and would be happy for the cut and want a flattering color too.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2016 12:00 AM (9MInk)

577 They said Melania had some big fashion shoes to fill following Mooch. They said that. "

They can say whatever they want. The rest of us have eyes.

Good night, horde and thanks for the ONT, Mis Hum.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 20, 2016 12:01 AM (P8951)

578 There's always cats.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 20, 2016 12:01 AM (ZLQuU)

579 Mull wine, now be at it my good man....

And that was Conan's mouth-over for Billy Jeff, I believe.

Posted by: micky at December 19, 2016 11:45 PM (o5vMc)


Better idea? Mulled ale.

My Wassail recipe:

In a crock pot add 5 bottles of brown ale, half a bottle of Madeira, a sliced blood orange and a bitters soaked spice bag of whole cloves, whole allspice, crystallized ginger, and cinnamon.

Separately core four apples/pears and fill them with brown sugar and honey and a sixth bottle of brown ale and bake them in the oven. When done, combine in the crock pot.

Posted by: Hat goes a-wassailin' at December 20, 2016 12:01 AM (vBeA5)

580 Pure Copper Magnetic Bracelet From Earth Therapy - For Men & Women To Give Relief To Arthritis, RSI, Carpal Tunnel, Migraines, Fatigue & More


Where to start? How about with "pure copper is not ferromagnetic?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 12:01 AM (SRKgf)

581 They said Melania had some big fashion shoes to fill following Mooch. They said that.

------

Well....yeah.

Size 13s *would* be very hard to fill

Posted by: fixerupper at December 20, 2016 12:01 AM (JmjOe)

582 Sigh. Ok I'll tell you, but if CBD ridicules my father's recipe again, you have to kick his ass. Agreed?

2 parts Canadian Club, 1 part martini & Rossi sweet vermouth, 1/2 part martini & Rossi dry vermouth, dash of angostura bitters, splash of maraschino cherry juice,
Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy at December 19, 2016 11:59 PM (hscyr)




Thanks! I promise to defend the honor of your father's recipe against all detractors.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:01 AM (cPsPa)

583 G'Night, Donna of the Ampersands.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 20, 2016 12:02 AM (6gk0M)

584 567. It's not at all similar, in terms of sound, to Trump. Transliteration should at least attempt to approach the sound of the original.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 20, 2016 12:02 AM (d0XHp)

585 I cannot begin to express how un-useful and confusing I find gmail's web interface to be. Incoming emails get attached to threads off the main page and disappear; drafts get sent; double-responses blip the first response into inter-dimensional black holes. I had to install Thunderbird to have the faintest clue as to what was going-on, and it really works best when it's on just one device.



Of course, with pretty much everything yahoo melting down security-wise, it's not like there are a plethora of options.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:02 AM (EzgxV)

586 They said Melania had some big fashion shoes to fill following Mooch. They said that.

I say the White House couches can come out of hiding after 8 years. I say that.

Posted by: Adriane the Curtain & Furniture Critic ... at December 20, 2016 12:03 AM (AoK0a)

587 barack obama is the emperor that had no clothes and Melania Trump is the first lady which no one will clothe.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:03 AM (cPsPa)

588 Anyone know if you could achieve the same effect with elements in the same period? I never got to ask a professor in college.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:49 PM (92kX2)

I believe pure nickel has ferromagnetic properties. And of course, for many years, the standard alloy for magnets was Alnico: aluminum+nickel+cobalt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 12:03 AM (MiBfH)

589 They said Melania had some big fashion shoes to fill following Mooch.

A St. Bernard on his morning walk couldn't fill those shoes.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2016 12:04 AM (29QcC)

590 Hat goes a-wassailin'

Love & Joy unto you !!!!

Posted by: Christmas Carol Critic ... at December 20, 2016 12:04 AM (AoK0a)

591 It would take Chewbacca to fill those shoes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (ZLQuU)

592 I did have a man who literally loved me more than life itself.

I'm gonna be alone for quite some time.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (CRotO)

593 Bet that Billy Jeff got his elector creds thinking it would be a huge photo op and a little microphone time as well, when he made whatever call he did to set things up.

Historic first doing a historic first for a historic first, and all.

He never thought she could lose, back then.

But that was then and this is now.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (U6f54)

594 I'm not 100% sure, but I think the guys backing the Syrian guy who shot the Russian ambassador made a really, really big mistake. Two people you don't want to needlessly piss off: Vladi and Bibi. Either one will make the remainder of your stupid life thoroughly miserable. I hope Trump takes note of Vladi's response.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (iYTF2)

595 guys would want a crystal that would make the woman of their choice fall in lust with them. much easier question.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (cPsPa)

596 >> I say the White House couches can come out of hiding after 8 years.
>> I say that.

Remember Carol Burnette's famous "Gone With the Wind" parody, where as Scarlett, she wore the that dress made from the curtains with the curtain rod still in place over the shoulders?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (DW+jj)

597 582 Thanks! I promise to defend the honor of your father's recipe against all detractors.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:01 AM (cPsPa)

That used to be considered a "proper" Manhattan according to Daddy.

Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (hscyr)

598 "I did have a man who literally loved me more than life itself.

I'm gonna be alone for quite some time.
"
-Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (CRotO)

Know that God walks with you and you are loved through Him and many others.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 20, 2016 12:06 AM (6gk0M)

599 Ohh, just found the perfect glass for the Baileys. Little 3oz brandy snifters I forgot I had. Would anyone like a glass?

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 12:06 AM (a62hT)

600 You guys and gals have given me some interesting answers.

I was actually thinking in specifics, wild specifics.

Like "John Bon Jovi." "That Katerday Chick." "Zombie Cary Grant". "Zombie Marilyn Monroe"

I actually think that anyone who works behind the scenes on Coast to Coast AM would be an interesting date. Conversely, so would any psychiatrist who specializes in personality disorders and isn't afraid to talk about his clients...

/OMG, I'm going to end up dating some guy on Ancient Aliens, aren't I?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 20, 2016 12:07 AM (Zla+B)

601 587 barack obama is the emperor that had no clothes and Melania Trump is the first lady which no one will clothe.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:03 AM (cPsPa)

That could be a plus since y'all 'rons want to see her buck nekkid.

Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy at December 20, 2016 12:07 AM (hscyr)

602 2 parts Canadian Club, 1 part martini & Rossi sweet vermouth, 1/2 part martini & Rossi dry vermouth, dash of angostura bitters, splash of maraschino cherry juice,
Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy


x2 kinds of vermouth? That's kind of finicky.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 12:07 AM (ZBp8/)

603 I'd just like her to be a bit more well-off than I am as well.



I know, I have impossible standards. Oh well.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 19, 2016 11:58 PM (u8kLQ)


Apparently there are quite a few people out there with structured settlements (slip and fall accidents? who knows). Maybe a lady like that might fit the bill.
I suggest you hang out around a courthouse.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:07 AM (tHwdc)

604 Anyone know if you could achieve the same effect with elements in the same period? I never got to ask a professor in college.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 19, 2016 10:49 PM (92kX2)



Which period - 11 or 13?

Actually, doesn't matter. Neither period has any ferromagnetic elements in the pure form.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 12:07 AM (SRKgf)

605 scotch down the windpipe.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:00 AM (cPsPa)

Scotch, whatever it takes.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:09 AM (tHwdc)

606 They said Melania had some big fashion shoes to fill following Mooch.


Snowshoes would be smaller than Mooch's shoes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 12:10 AM (SRKgf)

607
Of course, with pretty much everything yahoo melting down security-wise, it's not like there are a plethora of options.
--

Yeah, I use a yahoo account for all of my purchasing type things. It's so... easy.

I have a gmail account as well, but I hate gmail and only use it for certain business reasons.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 20, 2016 12:10 AM (Zla+B)

608 I'm going to end up dating some guy on Ancient Aliens, aren't I?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 20, 2016 12:07 AM (Zla+B)

------

Hey....once you go Greek......



You'll be back in a week.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 20, 2016 12:10 AM (JmjOe)

609 602 x2 kinds of vermouth? That's kind of finicky.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 12:07 AM (ZBp8/)

Get hopping Y5

Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy at December 20, 2016 12:10 AM (hscyr)

610 Miley, LOL.

That's one of the problems here in SoCal, I think. There seems to be an ironclad rule here, it doesn't matter how insanely rich a woman is; she's just GOT to have someone wealthier. IF a woman is a billionaire, she only wants a trillionaire.

I guess I can understand it. Part of my problem is, I need a woman who's as unconventional as I am.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 12:10 AM (u8kLQ)

611 Size 13s *would* be very hard to fill

Posted by: fixerupper at December 20, 2016 12:01 AM (JmjOe)

YUUUGE shoes.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:11 AM (tHwdc)

612 That used to be considered a "proper" Manhattan according to Daddy.
Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (hscyr)




well it absolutely is proper. is is very similar to the recipe an older friend uses.

CBD's is also proper but bangs up against the ceiling with high end ingredients.


Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:11 AM (cPsPa)

613 YUUUGE shoes.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:11 AM (tHwdc)



And malodorous, in Mooch's case, I have no doubt.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 12:11 AM (SRKgf)

614 Acriflavine.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 19, 2016 11:11 PM (fYFz4)

Pretty sure we had some acriflavine lotion in the medicine cabinet when I was a kid. Very yellow, it was.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 12:12 AM (MiBfH)

615 Scotch, whatever it takes.
Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:09 AM (tHwdc)




no,no, your closing sentence made me inhale scotch.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:12 AM (cPsPa)

616 599 Ohh, just found the perfect glass for the Baileys. Little 3oz brandy snifters I forgot I had. Would anyone like a glass?
Posted by: Infidel
--------------

Pour a spot of Cognac in mine, please?

I actually had a n eggnog wit the neighbor last night. I forgot how good they can be.
What were they originally made with? I think rum is the usual nowadays, right?

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 12:13 AM (0g+ZS)

617 Apparently iron, nickel, and cobalt are the magnetic elements. And doesn't the earth have an iron/nickel core?

Checking the periodic table... that's funny- they're all next to each other. I thought they'd be in the same column. Oh well, it's all magic to me.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2016 12:13 AM (29QcC)

618 Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:02 AM (EzgxV)

I hate gmail. Yahoo is my standard, all I can do is change passwords from time to time. Mr. D's FB account is tied to his yahoo, as is his website, so I keep it for that reason.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:13 AM (tHwdc)

619 612 well it absolutely is proper. is is very similar to the recipe an older friend uses.
CBD's is also proper but bangs up against the ceiling with high end ingredients.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:11 AM

It's a mixed drink. I'm not putting sipping whiskey in a mixed drink.

Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy at December 20, 2016 12:13 AM (hscyr)

620 614 Acriflavine.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 19, 2016 11:11 PM (fYFz4)
Pretty sure we had some acriflavine lotion in the medicine cabinet when I was a kid. Very yellow, it was.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 12:12 AM (MiBfH)



If that shit's not a DNA intercalator, I'll piss port wine.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 12:14 AM (SRKgf)

621 who is fucking with Bebe's Daddy's Manhattan recipe?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:14 AM (cPsPa)

622 I believe pure nickel has ferromagnetic properties.
And of course, for many years, the standard alloy for magnets was
Alnico: aluminum+nickel+cobalt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 12:03 AM (MiBfH)

I used to electroplate PCB prototypes with nickel over the copper, then gold to bond with the nickel. Maybe that's why.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:15 AM (tHwdc)

623 Sorry chi, no cognac. Brandy or whiskey for brown liquor.

Haven't had eggnog for years, but it was rum a very delicious.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 12:15 AM (a62hT)

624 617 Apparently iron, nickel, and cobalt are the magnetic elements. And doesn't the earth have an iron/nickel core?
Checking the periodic table... that's funny- they're all next to each other. I thought they'd be in the same column. Oh well, it's all magic to me.
Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2016 12:13 AM (29QcC)



You mean ferromagnetic, I assume. Lots of elements and compounds are paramagnetic.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 12:15 AM (SRKgf)

625 Checking the periodic table... that's funny- they're all next to each other. I thought they'd be in the same column. Oh well, it's all magic to me.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2016 12:13 AM (29QcC)


They used to be grouped together in the old periodic nomenclature (either Group VIIIA or Group VIIIB depending on the standard).

Posted by: The Magnetic Hat at December 20, 2016 12:16 AM (vBeA5)

626 Ni is indeed ferromagnetic at room temperature, one of four pure elements which are, Fe, Ni, Co, and Gadalonium (Gd).

Ni's Cure temp is fairly low, 671F.

Well, I see that pure Gd is "believed to be" ferromagnetic, with a Curie temperature of just 68F. So "room temperature" is sort of iffy, there.

Metallurgy, and the crystals structure thereof are quite complex. For example, adding nickel to stainless steel, the typical "18-8" class of stainlesses, meaning roughly 18% chromium and 8% nickel, are non-ferromagnetic. Adding that 8% Ni changes the room temp matrix to "austenite", which is the non-magnetic solid phase of iron.

You want to see something complicated, look at the Fe-C phase diagram, Fe-C being known as "steel" in some percentages. It is crazy complex. Now, add other elements, and you've got a complex system indeed.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 12:16 AM (DW+jj)

627 "I actually had an eggnog with the neighbor last night. I forgot how good they can be.
What were they originally made with? I think rum is the usual nowadays, right?
"
-Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 12:13 AM (0g+ZS)

Brandy.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 20, 2016 12:16 AM (6gk0M)

628 x2 kinds of vermouth? That's kind of finicky.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 12:07 AM (ZBp8/)




Bebe's daddy adores his girls more than anything and is willing to go to any length to achieve the ideal balance in his Manhattans for them. Why is anyone surprised by this?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:16 AM (cPsPa)

629 611 Size 13s *would* be very hard to fill

-------------

No problem. I'll take the saucy Jimmy Choo strapless stilettos in size Leviathan.

Posted by: Bruce Jenner at December 20, 2016 12:17 AM (ZLQuU)

630 I did have a man who literally loved me more than life itself.



I'm gonna be alone for quite some time.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (CRotO)

Understood.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:17 AM (tHwdc)

631 A proper Manhattan requires a Fat Man and a Little Boy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2016 12:18 AM (IqV8l)

632 Sweet and dry vermouth makes a "perfect" manhattan and is a classic variation. There's nothing wrong with it at all.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 20, 2016 12:18 AM (FYrz1)

633 631 A proper Manhattan requires a Fat Man and a Little Boy.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2016 12:18 AM (IqV8l)



Now you're just projecting.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2016 12:19 AM (SRKgf)

634 Remember Carol Burnette's famous "Gone With the
Wind" parody, where as Scarlett, she wore the that dress made from the
curtains with the curtain rod still in place over the shoulders?


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (DW+jj)

I do! That whole gang was brilliant.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:19 AM (tHwdc)

635 Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:17 AM (tHwdc)

---

I'll be ok.

Got used to being alone after 21+ years of marriage.

Will get used to this.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:19 AM (CRotO)

636 Properly Mixed Drinks 101:

http://cocktails.about.com/od/outonthetown/ss/bartend_memory.htm

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 20, 2016 12:20 AM (6gk0M)

637 A proper Manhattan requires a Fat Man and a Little Boy.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2016 12:18 AM (IqV8l)




now you are describing carlos slim's weekend in nyc.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:20 AM (cPsPa)

638 We used Jim Beam Devil's Cut, Infidel.
A good drink. But I couldn't take me than one. Way too sweet.

Side note, I think my oven runs on the hot side. But I believe I have mastered Miley's oatmeal cookies. Tomorrow is the last test batch before the Christmas Eve bakeday marathon.

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 12:21 AM (0g+ZS)

639 curtains with the curtain rod still in place over the shoulders?




Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (DW+jj)

I do! That whole gang was brilliant.

lol. If I remember correctly, the drapes were green? She was walking down the stairs I think.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 12:21 AM (a62hT)

640 Sweet and dry vermouth makes a "perfect" manhattan and is a classic variation. There's nothing wrong with it at all.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile


So if someone produced a mixed vermouth, they'd make all the moneys?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 12:21 AM (ZBp8/)

641 Classic Eggnog:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yhwhclo

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 20, 2016 12:21 AM (6gk0M)

642
I do! That whole gang was brilliant.

lol. If I remember correctly, the drapes were green? She was walking down the stairs I think.


Modern comedians would have to work in a sex joke, a toilet joke and a dig at conservatives.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2016 12:22 AM (IqV8l)

643 So if someone produced a mixed vermouth, they'd make all the moneys?

Probably not. Too niche of a product, and too many individual variations.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 20, 2016 12:23 AM (FYrz1)

644 Question for the horde: if you were single, who would you want to fall in love with you and why?

Easy. The one I fall in love with.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 20, 2016 12:23 AM (di1hb)

645 oatmeal cookies. Tomorrow is the last test batch before the Christmas Eve bakeday marathon.

Posted by: Chi a

yum. I finally figured out how to turn my oven on. It only took 2 hours of scrubbing with goo gone to get the tape off.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 12:24 AM (a62hT)

646 Psycho-ette Basura?! She wears crocs instead of choos, doesn't she?

Psycho-ette would be my brother's wife.

My sister was bestowed with the unfortunate moniker of Puta Basura. That's what happens when you piss me off repeatedly over a lifetime.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 12:24 AM (IcT7t)

647 Easy. The one I fall in love with.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 20, 2016 12:23 AM (di1hb)




dude the is the ont not the hallmark thread.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:24 AM (cPsPa)

648 592 I did have a man who literally loved me more than life itself.

I'm gonna be alone for quite some time.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:05 AM (CRotO)



You'll be alone as long as you choose to be -- no more, no less. You're intelligent, witty, charming, fierce, strong, drop-dead gorgeous, and funny (gee, sounds like an 'ette....) -- oh, and an 'ette. Your future is yours, on your terms.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:24 AM (EzgxV)

649 One month, 12 hours.

I still won't stop being vigilant about the Dems trying to steal this thing until Trump puts his hand on the Bible and takes the oath from Roberts.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at December 20, 2016 12:24 AM (1JnAL)

650 If you put a magnet on typical 18-8 stainless, such as 304 grade, you'll find it is slightly attracted. You'll feel a slight force there. And that's more of that complexity. Not all of the structure is austenitic, there's some free ferrite in there, which is the magnetic crystal form.

Rather than one solid phase, they all have mixtures of various solid phases in them generally.

IIRC, a mixture of pure iron to a "steel" with a very tiny carbon percentage will undergo 3 solid phase changes before melting to a liquid as you heat it. The first will be ferrite to austenite, alpha to gamma. Then there will be another phase change, gamma to delta, and delta is again ferromagnetic, I believe. Then it melts.

Liguid iron is only paramagnetic. But "in practice", they'll usually be some ferrite in there, sort of solids floating around, usually on the surface and you'll get some ferromagnetic behavior from that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 12:24 AM (DW+jj)

651 Modern comedians would have to work in a sex joke, a toilet joke and a dig at conservatives.

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Maybe Hillary singing a Hallelujah solo at the piano. That there's some hilarious shit, it is.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 20, 2016 12:25 AM (ZLQuU)

652 647 Easy. The one I fall in love with.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 20, 2016 12:23 AM (di1hb)

dude the is the ont not the hallmark thread.


Heh. Roger. But it worked just fine second time around. For us, anyways.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 20, 2016 12:27 AM (di1hb)

653 cooth,

I'm also dead broke, alone, and have no one here.

Daughter and BF went down to SA to spend Christmas with their friends. Seems since I don't have any money for xmas, she decided to spend xmas with friends that do.

I will be ok.

But I do not forget.

and rarely forgive.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:28 AM (CRotO)

654 Okay... I fold.

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 20, 2016 12:28 AM (6gk0M)

655 607
Of course, with pretty much everything yahoo melting down security-wise, it's not like there are a plethora of options.
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Yeah, I use a yahoo account for all of my purchasing type things. It's so... easy.

I have a gmail account as well, but I hate gmail and only use it for certain business reasons.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 20, 2016 12:10 AM (Zla+B)



Have you seen https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/12/my-yahoo-account-was-hacked-now-what/#more-37257 ? If not, please read.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:28 AM (EzgxV)

656 Right now, being alone is probably best for me.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:28 AM (CRotO)

657
Heh. Roger. But it worked just fine second time around. For us, anyways.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 20, 2016 12:27 AM (di1hb)



understood.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:29 AM (cPsPa)

658 SMFH, it's ok, you have us imaginary friends in the magical box who are here for you.

I'm doing the Christmas alone thing as well. Family all live in Oregon or Colorado, and I don't have the money to spend to drive out there, nor the inclination to deal with the drama. I'm planning to smoke a cigar, whip up some cocktails, and watch The Ref on netflix.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 20, 2016 12:30 AM (FYrz1)

659 night Slapweasel

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:31 AM (cPsPa)

660 656, kidlet asked me last week if I wanted to cancel Christmas. I should have said yes.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 12:31 AM (a62hT)

661 I'll watch football and maybe order a pizza.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:31 AM (CRotO)

662 no,no, your closing sentence made me inhale scotch.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:12 AM (cPsPa)


Well, wouldn't you agree that a woman should know how to shoot?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:32 AM (tHwdc)

663 618 Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:02 AM (EzgxV)

I hate gmail. Yahoo is my standard, all I can do is change passwords from time to time. Mr. D's FB account is tied to his yahoo, as is his website, so I keep it for that reason.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:13 AM (tHwdc)



They're estimated to having about a billion accounts and just announced a billion accounts might have been heisted in 2013. You may want to check the krebs link I posted upthread.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:32 AM (EzgxV)

664 Remember Carol Burnette's famous "Gone With the
Wind" parody, where as Scarlett, she wore the that dress made from the curtains with the curtain rod still in place over the shoulders?


My college roommate - a GWTW fan - made that dress for a Halloween party many years ago. Can't remember if her husband went as Rhett or Ashley. And yes, she wore the curtain rod !!

Posted by: Adriane the Costume Critic ... at December 20, 2016 12:32 AM (AoK0a)

665 Well, wouldn't you agree that a woman should know how to shoot?
Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:32 AM (tHwdc)

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Yes.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:32 AM (CRotO)

666 definitely

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:33 AM (CRotO)

667
Here's the Scarlett in the Curtain Rod Dress part:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBzQ0Lon1g

"I just saw it in the window, and I couldn't resist it!"

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 12:33 AM (DW+jj)

668 In our family Chrismas Eve is the big event, but Christmas day is kind of a lonely letdown; everyone's moved on to visit other family.

So, I know what I'll be doing: going to Acapulco (a nearby favorite Mexi restaurant) for dinner, probably by myself (my Mom's mobility is *really* limited by her bad knee right now, although to her credit she's getting some surgery done to fix it in the new year).

It'll be a little lonely, but I know I'll get through it and probably still have some fun.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 12:33 AM (u8kLQ)

669 I actually think that anyone who works behind the
scenes on Coast to Coast AM would be an interesting date. Conversely, so
would any psychiatrist who specializes in personality disorders and
isn't afraid to talk about his clients...

/OMG, I'm going to end up dating some guy on Ancient Aliens, aren't I?



Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 20, 2016 12:07 AM (Zla+B)

I wonder if Art Bell's in the market? IIRC, he moved to the Philippines for a while with wife #4.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 20, 2016 12:33 AM (jK8Z7)

670 A proper Manhattan requires a Fat Man and a Little Boy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2016 12:18 AM (IqV8l)


Not the way I make it...

Posted by: Harry Reid at December 20, 2016 12:33 AM (vBeA5)

671 we have done the Christmas alone thing as well, by we I mean Mrs. YankeeFifth and myself. it is fine, however, if you can my advice is to get yourself an invite to someone else's Christmas. it gives you something to do.

what is more it is always a little awkward being around someone else's Christmas celebration so you are a little glad to leave and happy to be back home alone again.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:34 AM (cPsPa)

672 I've been surprised how many "open on Christmas day" signs I've seen on stores and restaurants this year.

So much for that fabulous Obamaconomy, eh? :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 12:34 AM (u8kLQ)

673 626 Ni is indeed ferromagnetic at room temperature, one of four pure elements which are, Fe, Ni, Co, and Gadalonium (Gd).

Ni's Cure temp is fairly low, 671F.

Well, I see that pure Gd is "believed to be" ferromagnetic, with a Curie temperature of just 68F. So "room temperature" is sort of iffy, there.

Metallurgy, and the crystals structure thereof are quite complex. For example, adding nickel to stainless steel, the typical "18-8" class of stainlesses, meaning roughly 18% chromium and 8% nickel, are non-ferromagnetic. Adding that 8% Ni changes the room temp matrix to "austenite", which is the non-magnetic solid phase of iron.

You want to see something complicated, look at the Fe-C phase diagram, Fe-C being known as "steel" in some percentages. It is crazy complex. Now, add other elements, and you've got a complex system indeed.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 12:16 AM (DW+jj)



I thought it was marvelous when I found an old-time recipe for hardening steel: heat it until it glows and magnets no longer stick to it, then drop into a metal bucket of motor oil. The fact that magnets won't stick to sufficiently heated steel is intriguing.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:36 AM (EzgxV)

674 I actually think that anyone who works behind the
scenes on Coast to Coast AM would be an interesting date. Conversely, so
would any psychiatrist who specializes in personality disorders and
isn't afraid to talk about his clients...

/OMG, I'm going to end up dating some guy on Ancient Aliens, aren't I?



Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 20, 2016 12:07 AM (Zla+B)




well, they probably all have rockstar hair so you would look good on the red carpet or in the transporter together.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:36 AM (cPsPa)

675 646 My sister was bestowed with the unfortunate moniker of Puta Basura. That's what happens when you piss me off repeatedly over a lifetime.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 12:24 AM (

Ohhhh. Bet she would get along with my scrunt sister, that's trying to force me out of my patent's house.

Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy at December 20, 2016 12:37 AM (GCwTE)

676 Well, wouldn't you agree that a woman should know how to shoot?
Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:32 AM (tHwdc)




Indeed!

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:37 AM (cPsPa)

677
And yes, she wore the curtain rod !!
Posted by: Adriane the Costume Critic


Did she have to turn sideways to go through a doorway?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2016 12:37 AM (IqV8l)

678 well, they probably all have rockstar hair so you would look good on the red carpet or in the transporter together.

I saw "The Fly". You probably don't want to get in the transporter together.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 12:38 AM (IcT7t)

679 Got used to being alone after 21+ years of marriage.



Will get used to this.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:19 AM (CRotO)


I hadn't been truly alone my entire adult life until Mr. D. died. It's been a long spell, this. The utter absence of desire is weird.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:38 AM (tHwdc)

680 One thing I may try in the new year is... cosplay.

What do folks think I should dress up as, Wonder Woman or Catwoman?? :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2016 12:38 AM (u8kLQ)

681 My sister was bestowed with the unfortunate moniker of Puta Basura. That's what happens when you piss me off repeatedly over a lifetime.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 12:24 AM (

Ohhhh. Bet she would get along with my scrunt sister, that's trying to force me out of my patent's house.
Posted by: bebe's boobs desteoy at December 20, 2016 12:37 AM (GCwTE)




you know I have a third sister that we could mix in with our two and make a reality tv show. she never reads this place.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:38 AM (cPsPa)

682 Have you seen https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/12/my-yahoo-account-was-hacked-now-what/#more-37257 ? If not, please read.
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just read it. Thanks!

yikes.

so... I guess my holiday project is to transfer things to gmail.

lovely.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 20, 2016 12:38 AM (Zla+B)

683 Side note, I think my oven runs on the hot side. But
I believe I have mastered Miley's oatmeal cookies. Tomorrow is the last
test batch before the Christmas Eve bakeday marathon.

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 12:21 AM (0g+ZS)


CHI! You made them! Awesome! I always use an oven thermometer on the middle rack at 350F just to get the feel for a new oven.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:40 AM (tHwdc)

684 671 we have done the Christmas alone thing as well, by we I mean Mrs. YankeeFifth and myself. it is fine, however, if you can my advice is to get yourself an invite to someone else's Christmas. it gives you something to do.

what is more it is always a little awkward being around someone else's Christmas celebration so you are a little glad to leave and happy to be back home alone again.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:34 AM (cPsPa)

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Yeah, not gonna happen.

All my neighbors are out of town, and I'll be damned if I cruise around the city looking for a christmas party to take me in.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:40 AM (CRotO)

685 mix in with your two

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:40 AM (cPsPa)

686 662 no,no, your closing sentence made me inhale scotch.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:12 AM (cPsPa)


Well, wouldn't you agree that a woman should know how to shoot?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:32 AM (tHwdc)



Everyone should know how to shoot. You shouldn't be able to get a High School diploma or GED without demonstrated proficiency.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:41 AM (EzgxV)

687 Ohhhh. Bet she would get along with my scrunt sister, that's trying to force me out of my patent's house.

After Mama Basura's memorial service, Puta started making vague insinuations about a certain missing piece of jewellery and could it have ended up with Psycho-ette? Never made an actual accusation, and it turned out the item was in a safe, but still...

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 12:41 AM (IcT7t)

688 yum. I finally figured out how to turn my oven on. It only took 2 hours of scrubbing with goo gone to get the tape off.


Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 12:24 AM (a62hT)

Confused - did you tape it shut?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:41 AM (tHwdc)

689 Yeah, not gonna happen.

All my neighbors are out of town, and I'll be damned if I cruise around the city looking for a christmas party to take me in.
Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:40 AM (CRotO)




understood. wasn't thinking you should go the hitchhiking for a Christmas party route. You do seem like you would be a "good get" though so would think you would be turning down invites.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:42 AM (cPsPa)

690 I hadn't been truly alone my entire adult life until Mr. D. died. It's been a long spell, this. The utter absence of desire is weird.
Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:38 AM (tHwdc)

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Can't say the same as far as being alone in my adult life. Many times that has been the case, including childhood.

As far as desire, nada.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:42 AM (CRotO)

691 681 you know I have a third sister that we could mix in with our two and make a reality tv show. she never reads this place.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:38 AM

Yeah, my greedy bint sibling doesn't come here either.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 20, 2016 12:42 AM (GCwTE)

692 what invites?

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:43 AM (CRotO)

693 No one wants a grieving widow harshing their mellow.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:43 AM (CRotO)

694 Yeah, my greedy bint sibling doesn't come here either.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 20, 2016 12:42 AM (GCwTE)




rumor has it my sister blew money on the stein recount thing.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:43 AM (cPsPa)

695 you know I have a third sister that we could mix in with our two and make a reality tv show. she never reads this place.

Going to use a word here that I know some of the 'ettes hate. It is necessary for the joke. And, yes, I am a disgusting human being.

TV show? Could we call it "Three's Cuntany"?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 12:44 AM (IcT7t)

696 Yo get a load of this.

Statement from President-Elect Donald J Trump on the Attack in Berlin:
"Our hearts and prayers are with the loved ones of the victims of today's horrifying attack in Berlin. Innocent civilians were murdered in the streets as they prepared to celebrate the Christmas holiday. ISIS and other Islamist terrorists continually slaughter Christians in their communities and places of worship as part of their global jihad. These terrorists and their regional and worldwide networks must be eradicated from the face of the earth, a mission we will carry out with all freedom-loving partners."


http://tinyurl.com/hw7m34z

Did you ever think you'd see that coming from the desk of the US president?

Posted by: most deplorable Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at December 20, 2016 12:44 AM (Iy6JT)

697 Miley, if you wanna find a marriageable moron whut can teech you to choot?

Just go survey all of the Postal Match entries for their status and age, and you're off to the races!

In my life, the problem hasn't been finding a "good woman", I've done okay there.

It's my lack or failure in finding one who is not just giving me the ol' "go along to get along", when I describe my life of motorcycling the USA, living on a sailboat, hunting and outdoorsmanship, and a bit of minimalism, in that I find the slavery of a mortgage to be an abhorrence. I'd much rather save up to buy land, and build with my own hands, than to give most of my life's earnings to a frikkin' lender.

But, I'm batting 0.00%, they've all ended up wanting the wee cottage, white picket fence, etc. And they want some tame "retiree" guy, clipping roses in his cardigan sweater, just like on the retirement village brochures.

Just shoot me, bleh!

Much as I've enjoyed working and rebuilding the house here after Hurricane Ike, I also know that I'll not want to be doing this again, moving from here to a new house, wherever.

Next house for me, will be a seaworthy one, again. Should I be so blessed as to find a 1st mate for that endeavor, it'd be a blessing.

But an unexpected one, to be sure.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2016 12:45 AM (v5iqM)

698 I'm planning to smoke a cigar, whip up some cocktails, and watch The Ref on netflix.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 20, 2016 12:30 AM (FYrz1)

One of my favorite Christmas movies! Sounds like a winning combo. All I need to do is choose the cocktails. Maybe whiskey sours would be apropos.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:45 AM (tHwdc)

699 695 Going to use a word here that I know some of the 'ettes hate. It is necessary for the joke. And, yes, I am a disgusting human being. TV show? Could we call it "Three's Cuntany"?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 12:44 AM

If the pussy moniker fits...

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 20, 2016 12:46 AM (GCwTE)

700 684 671 we have done the Christmas alone thing as well, by we I mean Mrs. YankeeFifth and myself. it is fine, however, if you can my advice is to get yourself an invite to someone else's Christmas. it gives you something to do.

what is more it is always a little awkward being around someone else's Christmas celebration so you are a little glad to leave and happy to be back home alone again.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 12:34 AM (cPsPa)

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Yeah, not gonna happen.

All my neighbors are out of town, and I'll be damned if I cruise around the city looking for a christmas party to take me in.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:40 AM (CRotO)



If MisHum is still around, it looks like we'll need a "AoSHQ Family Christmas Party, 'cause our families IRL aren't as fun" thread on 12/25.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:46 AM (EzgxV)

701 They're estimated to having about a billion accounts
and just announced a billion accounts might have been heisted in 2013.
You may want to check the krebs link I posted upthread.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:32 AM (EzgxV)

You say this at post #663. I have to get up in 6 hours. Do I need to do something besides change passwords every month?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:47 AM (tHwdc)

702 Confused - did you tape it shut?


Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:41 AM (tHwdc)


No, Miley. My oven died Thanksgiving morning. Bought a new stove/oven. Was delivered on Saturday. Delivery guys get here, and after they get the old stove out ask if I have a cord to plug it in. Whaaa! I guess these days there are 2 types of 220 outlets. A 3 prong and 4 prong. Sales person never mentioned it. Anyway, got that straightened out. The guys took some sort of blue strapping tape off the top of the oven door and it didn't come off all the way. It was only 25 outside. So had to do some scrubbing before I turned on the oven for the first time. Not my best experience buying a new appliance.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 12:49 AM (a62hT)

703 693 No one wants a grieving widow harshing their mellow.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:43 AM (CRotO)



Dear heart -- I'd sit next to you, for hours, without moving a muscle or saying a word.....just to try to absorb "good people" points from you by osmosis.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:49 AM (EzgxV)

704 SMFH, my heart goes out to you! (and prayers, I've seen what you're going thru)

This here JQ redneck nobody has been thru similar: better half (we weren't married yet, he didn't live long enough) passed untimely and it just *crushed my spirit*

Cried for months. Shook my fist at God. Every day was just another ordeal to be gotten thru. "Suck" doesn't contain enough syllables to convey the suckage of it.

Not saying there's any silver lining because there might actually not be. Just...

Just, well... damn, girl. It's okay to cry.

I'm sorry you're going thru this. That's all I can say.

May you find *Joy* again someday.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 20, 2016 12:50 AM (044Fx)

705 673: Oh, this can be very fascinating, if you're into it. I've played around with quenching and tempering, and know just enough to be dangerous, if that much.

For it to work, you've got have enough carbon in there. Low carbon steel will not work. When you heat steel above that magnetic temp, it phase changes to austenite, with carbon in solid solution. I think. Look at the Fe-C phase diagram.

Now, when you quench, you cool it so fast that the normal phase change back to ferrite can't happen. "Annealing" is cooling slow enough to allow the minimum energy state, the natural state it "wants" to be in, to form. How fast, or slow this take depends on the material. Copper can be annealed by heating it cherry red, then quenching with water. It only "work hardens".

When you quench steel, you form "martensite", which is the high-energy crystal formed when it doesn't have time to settle in to the normal state it wants to.

Tempering is re-heating to allow some phase change to take place and relieve stress. Depending on things, the just-quenched structure is very brittle and under enormous internal stress.

Note that austenite and martensite are named after famous metallurgists would figured all this shit out.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 12:51 AM (DW+jj)

706 FWIW, I was home alone once for Christmas and went to the Methodist Church midnight service on Christmas Eve. It was comforting. I'm a Lutheran, but nobody does music like the Methodists.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 20, 2016 12:51 AM (jK8Z7)

707 "Yet they all pretended Mooch was some sort of super model fashion plate."

If your fashion plate is full of a big ole sweaty helping of cross-dressing dockworker, sure...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 20, 2016 12:51 AM (Kucy5)

708 One of my favorite Christmas movies! Sounds like a winning combo. All I need to do is choose the cocktails. Maybe whiskey sours would be apropos.
Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:45 AM (tHwdc)

Whiskey sours are a possibility. And The Ref is great.

"I'm going to buy you a big wooden cross, so that any time you feel unappreciated you can climb up there and nail yourself to it!"

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 20, 2016 12:51 AM (FYrz1)

709 #682 thanks !

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:52 AM (tHwdc)

710 701 They're estimated to having about a billion accounts
and just announced a billion accounts might have been heisted in 2013.
You may want to check the krebs link I posted upthread.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:32 AM (EzgxV)

You say this at post #663. I have to get up in 6 hours. Do I need to do something besides change passwords every month?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:47 AM (tHwdc)


Probably, but not tonight. All the damage was really done in 2013.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:52 AM (EzgxV)

711 The headines say "These Are The Worst of Times." I do believe it's true.

Posted by: Dennis DeYoung and gullible, worst songwriter ever at December 20, 2016 12:53 AM (7cqHD)

712 thank you all...

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:53 AM (CRotO)

713 My.mother drank a perfect Manhattan on occasion. Never had one myself.
My father liked a gin over with a twist. Bombay Sapphire was his favorite, but any English gin would do.
I followed on that path for a time, but settled with Boilermakers. No cheap beer and a good bourbon.
I was at a bar/restaurant in Hamilton, Bermuda once. I was in Bermuda doing some work for the Navy. 1979. I ordered a Jim Beam and the owner said he found a case of pre-prohibition Beam in the cellar. It was delicious, but he wouldn't sell me a bottle or two.

Posted by: Hank at December 20, 2016 12:53 AM (qFcmo)

714 No one wants a grieving widow harshing their mellow.

If you knocked on my door, a place would be made for you. You don't need an invitation.

You might need earplugs when the emotional two year old comes over, but that's another topic altogether.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 12:53 AM (IcT7t)

715 Everyone should know how to shoot. You shouldn't be able to get a High School diploma or GED without demonstrated proficiency.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:41 AM (EzgxV)

My dad should have taught me to shoot. He and his buddy used to do all kinds of stupid gun tricks when they were in high school, like shooting the cherries off each other's cigarette at - well, I don't know how far away.
Of course, I didn't know that until I was over 40.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 12:54 AM (tHwdc)

716 If we ever meet up Miley, I'd be happy to teach you.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:55 AM (CRotO)

717 "I cannot begin to express how un-useful and confusing I find gmail's web interface to be. Incoming emails get attached to threads off the main page and disappear; drafts get sent; double-responses blip the first response into inter-dimensional black holes. "

We have to use gmail at work. Turning off message threading solved most of the silliness. (Of course, my first email program was Pine, so I'm used to unthreaded email.)

The only thing that still trips me up is when I delete something, then realize I should have replied. The reply doesn't happen unless I take the message out of the trash first. (Everything goes right, and then instead of sending and moving to my "sent" folder, the reply stays in the trash.)

Posted by: mikeski at December 20, 2016 12:55 AM (lO+tS)

718 Yep.
You have to buy a new cord when you buy an oven or a dryer.
They've been doing that for decades.
But you can blame the gov't for demanding the 4 prong outlet. A redundant ground has been added. Lobbyists for the copper wiring industry?

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 12:55 AM (0g+ZS)

719 Blanco : )

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:55 AM (CRotO)

720 Blanco : )

Us Army pukes gotta stick together.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 12:57 AM (IcT7t)

721 Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 20, 2016 12:07 AM (Zla+B)

Back in the day, Art Bell ran the whole thing by himself from his trailer in Pahrump, NV. Did the same thing from the Philippines when he did his occasional gig for C2C.

I'm sure it's more conventional with the guy now. George Noory? I haven't listened in years, but Art was a hoot back in the 90s.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 20, 2016 12:57 AM (R5EqA)

722 trump
trump
trump

deport
deport
deport

!!

this is your reply to that lefty fucko at any future family gatherings

Posted by: Original Jake at December 20, 2016 12:58 AM (jrFgU)

723 . Copper can be annealed by heating it cherry red, then quenching with water. It only "work hardens".
---------

Hmm. What about brass? I have a chunky piece of cast brass that has been accidentally dropped and bent. My plan is to place in annealing oven to 650 deg or so, soak a bit, then allow to cool slowly in the oven. After that I'll try to bend back to proper shape.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2016 12:59 AM (ZO497)

724 Art Bell did A-OK.
Sold that show to Noory years ago.
I saw Art on a cruise ship, had his new bride and child.
I asked him how far he was sailing.
He said they were staying on the ship for a year.
Art was surprised I knew his face.

Posted by: navybrat at December 20, 2016 12:59 AM (w7KSn)

725 It's so stupid Chi. I haven't had to buy an appliance for a long time. Sales idiot should have said something. Nothing in the research I did revealed that either. Broiler pans are separate now too. Sheesh. Just like the swamp cooler doesn't come with the motor. Have to buy that extra. Same with hot water heater. Stupid gov't blue bubble is separate. I hate these fvckers.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:00 AM (a62hT)

726 Next house for me, will be a seaworthy one, again.
Should I be so blessed as to find a 1st mate for that endeavor, it'd be a
blessing.



But an unexpected one, to be sure.







Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX





Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2016 12:45 AM (v5iqM)

I wouldn't mind a weathered little place not far from a beach, in a place with no snow.

The guy in the cardigan clipping roses sounds like old Pajama Boy.
Good luck on your hunt, Jim!

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 01:00 AM (tHwdc)

727 718: Hate to be a pedant, but that's not a redundant "ground". Stoves and dryers are 3-wire devices, using both 240V and 120V. Thus, one of the "grounds" is a current-carrying neutral.

There used to be an exception to the NEC, specifically put in for residential ranges and dryers that allowed "grounding to a neutral".

Grounding to a current neutral defeats the whole purpose of a seperate safety ground. But it was allowed, because it was lobbied for, and thought not to be as much of a hazard as grounding to the neutral of a 120V plug-in device like hand tools.

You'll note that a standard NEMA 5-15R receptable and plug has "two grounds". One is a current carrying neutral, and the other is safety ground.

A 240V only device has two current carrying wires, which happen to be hot most of the time, and one safety ground. A 120/240V device has two hot wires, a neutral, and a safety ground.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:00 AM (DW+jj)

728 717 "I cannot begin to express how un-useful and confusing I find gmail's web interface to be. Incoming emails get attached to threads off the main page and disappear; drafts get sent; double-responses blip the first response into inter-dimensional black holes. "

We have to use gmail at work. Turning off message threading solved most of the silliness. (Of course, my first email program was Pine, so I'm used to unthreaded email.)

The only thing that still trips me up is when I delete something, then realize I should have replied. The reply doesn't happen unless I take the message out of the trash first. (Everything goes right, and then instead of sending and moving to my "sent" folder, the reply stays in the trash.)

Posted by: mikeski at December 20, 2016 12:55 AM (lO+tS)



You can turn that bullshit off???

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:01 AM (EzgxV)

729 Statement from President-Elect Donald J Trump on the Attack in Berlin:

"Our hearts and prayers are with the loved ones of the victims of
today's horrifying attack in Berlin. Innocent civilians were murdered in
the streets as they prepared to celebrate the Christmas holiday. ISIS
and other Islamist terrorists continually slaughter Christians in their
communities and places of worship as part of their global jihad. These
terrorists and their regional and worldwide networks must be eradicated
from the face of the earth, a mission we will carry out with all
freedom-loving partners."



Did you ever think you'd see that coming from the desk of the US president?

Has President Dickbreath even commented on it yet? Does he even know it happened, since I doubt it was on ESPN.

Posted by: tu3031 at December 20, 2016 01:02 AM (qJhUV)

730 Next house for me, will be a seaworthy one, again.
Should I be so blessed as to find a 1st mate for that endeavor, it'd be a
blessing.
---------

sailorsonly.com

But... maybe not.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2016 01:02 AM (ZO497)

731 >> Hmm. What about brass?

I have no clue. :-) Read up on the metallurgy of brass and the hardening and softening, if possible, thereof.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:02 AM (DW+jj)

732 Seesaws are dangerous. Way back in preschool, my buddy stepped off without thinking, and I whacked my head on the ground.

Posted by: MetaThought at December 20, 2016 01:02 AM (yhs3z)

733 Going to use a word here that I know some of the 'ettes hate. It is
necessary for the joke. And, yes, I am a disgusting human being. TV
show? Could we call it "Three's Cuntany"?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 12:44 AM


Nah, you aren't a disgusting human being. Just save it for appropriate occasions. This sound like one, PLUS a horribly painful play on words.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 01:02 AM (tHwdc)

734 718 Yep.
You have to buy a new cord when you buy an oven or a dryer.
They've been doing that for decades.
But you can blame the gov't for demanding the 4 prong outlet. A redundant ground has been added. Lobbyists for the copper wiring industry?

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 12:55 AM (0g+ZS)



I normally salvage it off the old one -- it's usually not the part that wears out.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:03 AM (EzgxV)

735 Nah, you aren't a disgusting human being.

There goes my reputation.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 01:03 AM (IcT7t)

736 >> super model fashion plate

super model fashion plate or super buffet plate?

Posted by: JEM at December 20, 2016 01:03 AM (TppKb)

737 If MisHum is still around, it looks like we'll need a
"AoSHQ Family Christmas Party, 'cause our families IRL aren't as fun"
thread on 12/25.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:46 AM (EzgxV)

We do, that would be awesome! I'll be having dinner with the in-laws, not sure what time. The rest of the day I'll be here with Miley's Deplorable Cat.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 01:03 AM (tHwdc)

738 Seesaws are dangerous. Way back in preschool, my buddy stepped off without thinking, and I whacked my head on the ground.
Posted by: MetaThought
-----------

One of life's lessons for boys is a slipping chain on a bicycle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2016 01:05 AM (ZO497)

739 Alas, I'm gonna switch azimuth to the horizontal.

Early start in the ayyemm, and also trying to shake a nasty sinus infection. Does bourbon count as "self medicating?"

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2016 01:05 AM (v5iqM)

740 >> You can turn that bullshit off???

yes you can, but then I mostly read mail (gmail and three other accounts) in Thunderbird on the desktop and Kaiten on the android things so the gmail interface rarely enters into it.

Posted by: JEM at December 20, 2016 01:06 AM (TppKb)

741 I guess these days there are 2 types of 220
outlets. A 3 prong and 4 prong. Sales person never mentioned it. Anyway,
got that straightened out. The guys took some sort of blue strapping
tape off the top of the oven door and it didn't come off all the way. It
was only 25 outside. So had to do some scrubbing before I turned on the
oven for the first time. Not my best experience buying a new appliance.


Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 12:49 AM (a62hT)



What if you have a 3 prong that identifies as a 4 prong?

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 01:06 AM (tHwdc)

742


I normally salvage it off the old one -- it's usually not the part that wears out.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:03 AM (EzgxV)

Thought about that. But the old one has electrical problems and I didn't want to chance it for $23 bucks. It was an old stove.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:06 AM (a62hT)

743 727 718: Hate to be a pedant, but that's not a redundant "ground". Stoves and dryers are 3-wire devices, using both 240V and 120V. Thus, one of the "grounds" is a current-carrying neutral.

There used to be an exception to the NEC, specifically put in for residential ranges and dryers that allowed "grounding to a neutral".

Grounding to a current neutral defeats the whole purpose of a seperate safety ground. But it was allowed, because it was lobbied for, and thought not to be as much of a hazard as grounding to the neutral of a 120V plug-in device like hand tools.

You'll note that a standard NEMA 5-15R receptable and plug has "two grounds". One is a current carrying neutral, and the other is safety ground.

A 240V only device has two current carrying wires, which happen to be hot most of the time, and one safety ground. A 120/240V device has two hot wires, a neutral, and a safety ground.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:00 AM (DW+jj)



Reminds me -- Arbalest and I got into a big discussion about 240V while we were driving, and I got a Make Magazine issue which had a nice tabular summary within about two days. I need to scan it and email it to him.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:07 AM (EzgxV)

744 The list goes on, Infidel. At least they start shipping dishwashers with the install hardware these days.

Did you know that you have to buy or make a cord to install/plug in a new garbage disposal? Doesn't come with one. Despite every new home in America being built with a switched outlet under the sink. Stoopid


Miley,
Of course I made them!
Twice now (1/2 batches).
I think turning the oven down & sitting in front of it will be the winning combination to get my timing right. One benefit of unemployment is having time to watch cookies bake...

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 01:07 AM (0g+ZS)

745 Note that austenite and martensite are named after famous metallurgists would figured all this shit out.

And if you cover the back of the blade with pitch before cold water quenching, you get hard martensitic steel at the cutting edge and softer, shock absorbing // less brittle steel on the back.

i.e. a katana ...

I thought it was perlite, but it might be austenite. It has been a long time.

Posted by: Adriane the Composite Material Critic ... at December 20, 2016 01:07 AM (AoK0a)

746 737 If MisHum is still around, it looks like we'll need a
"AoSHQ Family Christmas Party, 'cause our families IRL aren't as fun"
thread on 12/25.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 12:46 AM (EzgxV)

We do, that would be awesome! I'll be having dinner with the in-laws, not sure what time. The rest of the day I'll be here with Miley's Deplorable Cat.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 01:03 AM (tHwdc)



I emailed it to him.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:08 AM (EzgxV)

747

What if you have a 3 prong that identifies as a 4 prong?


Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 01:06 AM (tHwdc)


Well, then your unlady like inner self comes out and you tell it what to do with what part of it's ah, stuff.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:09 AM (a62hT)

748 >> Did you ever think you'd see that coming from the
>> desk of the US president?

It's the most Presidential thing we've seen in fifteen years, and we had to wait for the Texas electors to finish fluffing each other today to get an actual President-Elect.

Posted by: JEM at December 20, 2016 01:09 AM (TppKb)

749 I was at a bar/restaurant in Hamilton, Bermuda once. I was in Bermuda doing some work for the Navy. 1979. I ordered a Jim Beam and the owner said he found a case of pre-prohibition Beam in the cellar. It was delicious, but he wouldn't sell me a bottle or two.
Posted by: Hank at December 20, 2016 12:53 AM (qFcmo)




how is the pre-prohibition stuff different?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 01:10 AM (cPsPa)

750 If we ever meet up Miley, I'd be happy to teach you.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 12:55 AM (CRotO)

Wish you weren't so far away, hon - I'd spend Christmas with you. I guess I could put up with football on TV as long as I had enough booze.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 01:10 AM (tHwdc)

751 G'night everyone.

Gotta go do almost nothing for eight hours tomorrow.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2016 01:10 AM (IcT7t)

752 Oh yes, if you're just wired for 3-wire, then a 4-prong cord and receptable does you no good, and you're "grandfathered" (unless you're not, and you're supposed to re-wire it).

So, you have to convert the new appliance to 3-wire, which you do by changing a bonding strap (or wire)to ground the frame to the neutral pole on the terminal block inside.

Old installations used to use SE cable for the range, and 10/3 without ground for dryers. Which is likely what you have if your house was built before the 90s, whenever they took out the exception.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:11 AM (DW+jj)

753 738 One of life's lessons for boys is a slipping chain on a bicycle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2016 01:05 AM (ZO497)

Whats the worst case on that one?

Posted by: MetaThought at December 20, 2016 01:11 AM (yhs3z)

754 740 >> You can turn that bullshit off???

yes you can, but then I mostly read mail (gmail and three other accounts) in Thunderbird on the desktop and Kaiten on the android things so the gmail interface rarely enters into it.

Posted by: JEM at December 20, 2016 01:06 AM (TppKb)



Well, hello -- HOW??? I'm on a different computer than usual right now -- the usual is doing Thunderbird -- and I'm trying to check things and send things. And this one is telling me absolute garbage about current emails when I can look four feet to the left and see all sorts of interesting new ones.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:12 AM (EzgxV)

755 House built in '61. Dryer has the same.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:13 AM (a62hT)

756 >> Well, hello -- HOW???

Settings gear at top right corner, 'conversation view' off.

Posted by: JEM at December 20, 2016 01:13 AM (TppKb)

757 753 738 One of life's lessons for boys is a slipping chain on a bicycle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2016 01:05 AM (ZO497)

Whats the worst case on that one?

Posted by: MetaThought at December 20, 2016 01:11 AM (yhs3z)



I'm just guessing you're an 'ette, here.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:15 AM (EzgxV)

758 I'm smelling what you're steping in, publius - but I was making a po8nt, dammit!
Besides, do you realize how many homes still have the ground & neutral buss tied together?

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 01:15 AM (0g+ZS)

759 Of course I made them!

Twice now (1/2 batches).

I think turning the oven down sitting in front of it will be
the winning combination to get my timing right. One benefit of
unemployment is having time to watch cookies bake...

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 01:07 AM (0g+ZS)


Like "sittin' on the dock of the bay" except with cookies.

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 01:16 AM (tHwdc)

760 757
I'm just guessing you're an 'ette, here.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:15 AM (EzgxV)
I was just sheltered as a boy. Crotch rockets are more my style now.

Posted by: MetaThought at December 20, 2016 01:17 AM (yhs3z)

761 Whats the worst case on that one?
Posted by: MetaThought
---------------

Crushed testicle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2016 01:18 AM (ZO497)

762 756 >> Well, hello -- HOW???

Settings gear at top right corner, 'conversation view' off.

Posted by: JEM at December 20, 2016 01:13 AM (TppKb)



Settings gear at top right corner, settings, scroll down, 'conversation view' off. Thank you, thank you, thank you, I hope this works.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:19 AM (EzgxV)

763 "Well, hello -- HOW???"

In the gmail web interface, hit the gear icon, pick "settings", and turn off "conversation view". (And "save changes", o'course.) That's how it is on my work email, anywho.

Posted by: mikeski at December 20, 2016 01:19 AM (lO+tS)

764 Arrrgh - it's too late. Gotta get some sleep. Thanks Horde!

Posted by: Miley, the Unindicted Duchess of the DSR at December 20, 2016 01:19 AM (tHwdc)

765 Cooth: It's as simple as it can be. Single phase residential systems in the US are technically known as 120/240V 3-wire. You have a center tapped secondary winding on the transformer. That center tap is brought out and grounded.

Here's a simple DC way to see it. Take two 12V batteries. Put them in series. In the middle, the + to - junction connecting the two batteries, bring that terminal out for a third wire. You now have a 12/24VDC three wire system. The middle wire is electrically "neutral" because the voltage from all points sums to zero away from it. In field theory terms, it is "uncharged" because of this. It's like the middle plane of a dipole field.

Note that is positive to one side and negative to the other side. You have 24V between the ends, and 12V between either end and the middle.

It's that simple. Now, this neutral point is "grounded". Which means it is literally connected to the dirt, the earth. This connection is known as "system grounding" in the parlance. Ground is also a safety thing, and safety grounding is the connecting of all exposed metallic conducting parts to a common system to prevent any voltage from accidentally developing between those parts. Now, we connect this safety grid to the dirt, "earth" as well as our "system ground", the one side, or pole of an electrical system we create.

This matrix is "ground".

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:19 AM (DW+jj)

766 761 Whats the worst case on that one?
Posted by: MetaThought
---------------

Crushed testicle.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc
-----------------

I do believe that the plural version would be worst case, there, Lance Armstrong.

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 01:20 AM (0g+ZS)

767 Miley, if you wanna find a marriageable moron whut can teech you to choot?

Just go survey all of the Postal Match entries for their status and age, and you're off to the races!

Dammit, I knew I should have participated.

Can you get another one going Jim? Please???

: )

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 20, 2016 01:23 AM (Jcg9Q)

768 I was just sheltered as a boy. Crotch rockets are more my style now.
Posted by: MetaThought
-----------

Yeah, well, it can happen on one of those too. tankslappers have thrown people up onto the tank, with the same consequence.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2016 01:23 AM (ZO497)

769 Someone oughta design an app for keeping track of the replies. Saves on teh endless refreshing.

Posted by: MetaThought at December 20, 2016 01:23 AM (yhs3z)

770 >> Besides, do you realize how many homes still have the ground neutral buss tied together?

-----------------

Neutral and ground are together until the Service entrance point, per NEC rules, with some complications and exceptions.

The neutral and ground buss are "bonded" at the main panel, the thing with the first main breaker or fuses in them. Thereafter, they must be separate.

If you pull a subpanel off that main panel, you go "4-wire", with a separate neutral and ground. And you do not bond the ground bus, if provided, to the neutral.

I can't tell you how many jack-legged fools can fuck up this simple concept. I've undone more fuckups from those who don't know what they're doing than I can count.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:24 AM (DW+jj)

771 "Saves on teh endless refreshing."

...and would save me from doing silly things like replying to a question after both another answer and the thank-you for it...

Posted by: mikeski at December 20, 2016 01:26 AM (lO+tS)

772 I guess it's too much to ask that you buy an electric stove and you can just plug it in when it's delivered.
fuck.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:26 AM (a62hT)

773 772 I guess it's too much to ask that you buy an electric stove and you can just plug it in when it's delivered.
fuck.
Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:26 AM (a62hT)

Yeah, the power cord is extra. Same with dryers, too.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 20, 2016 01:27 AM (R5EqA)

774 Posted by: JEM at December 20, 2016 01:13 AM (TppKb)



Incidentally, there was recently a thread where you said something like, "you got banned right out of the gate" about me @195 or thereabouts, where my initial comment was about @10.



I checked for my comments @10 and @205, and they were missing -- but then went back to reference your comment and it was back to where it had been.....and my comments were back. I thought I had seen my comments disappear and return -- does that square with your perception?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:27 AM (EzgxV)

775 If you pull a subpanel off that main panel, you go "4-wire", with a separate neutral and ground. And you do not bond the ground bus, if provided, to the neutral.
-----------------

So you know the idiots that are too lazy to drive new ground rods for the subpanel, too?
I've had arguments that lasted longer than doing it with a maul would take...

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 01:30 AM (0g+ZS)

776 765 Cooth: It's as simple as it can be. Single phase residential systems in the US are technically known as 120/240V 3-wire. You have a center tapped secondary winding on the transformer. That center tap is brought out and grounded.

Here's a simple DC way to see it. Take two 12V batteries. Put them in series. In the middle, the + to - junction connecting the two batteries, bring that terminal out for a third wire. You now have a 12/24VDC three wire system. The middle wire is electrically "neutral" because the voltage from all points sums to zero away from it. In field theory terms, it is "uncharged" because of this. It's like the middle plane of a dipole field.

Note that is positive to one side and negative to the other side. You have 24V between the ends, and 12V between either end and the middle.

It's that simple. Now, this neutral point is "grounded". Which means it is literally connected to the dirt, the earth. This connection is known as "system grounding" in the parlance. Ground is also a safety thing, and safety grounding is the connecting of all exposed metallic conducting parts to a common system to prevent any voltage from accidentally developing between those parts. Now, we connect this safety grid to the dirt, "earth" as well as our "system ground", the one side, or pole of an electrical system we create.

This matrix is "ground".

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:19 AM (DW+jj)



I get it -- but the article had a cool matrix for plugs and wiring, with what plugs gave you real grounds, etc.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:31 AM (EzgxV)

777 I guess it's too much to ask that you buy an electric stove and you can just plug it in when it's delivered.
fuck.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:26 AM (a62hT)

There was a time, when homes didn't have a stove outlet. There was just a hunk of armored cable coming up out of the floor, with red, white, and black wires in it. And you connected those wires to the corresponding screw terminals on the rear of the stove.

Then came three-prong range plugs, followed by 4-prong range plugs.

Appliance manufacturer doesn't know if your home was built in the '40's, '80's, or oughties. So easier to have the customer buy the required cord (if needed), separately.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 01:32 AM (MiBfH)

778 Sounds like you guys could put a new electric box/panel for me. Hmm.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:32 AM (a62hT)

779 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 01:32 AM (MiBfH)

Silly me, I thought the sales idiot would have mentioned that.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:34 AM (a62hT)

780 770 >> Besides, do you realize how many homes still have the ground neutral buss tied together?

-----------------

Neutral and ground are together until the Service entrance point, per NEC rules, with some complications and exceptions.

The neutral and ground buss are "bonded" at the main panel, the thing with the first main breaker or fuses in them. Thereafter, they must be separate.

If you pull a subpanel off that main panel, you go "4-wire", with a separate neutral and ground. And you do not bond the ground bus, if provided, to the neutral.

I can't tell you how many jack-legged fools can fuck up this simple concept. I've undone more fuckups from those who don't know what they're doing than I can count.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:24 AM (DW+jj)



Everything I ever build from here on out will have a main board that only drops to one or more subpanels. There will be nothing in the main board that goes to a regular circuit. Parts are too cheap, and heartbreak too dear.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:36 AM (EzgxV)

781 Nite Miley.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 01:36 AM (CRotO)

782 723 . Copper can be annealed by heating it cherry red, then quenching with water. It only "work hardens".
---------

Hmm. What about brass? I have a chunky piece of cast brass that has been accidentally dropped and bent. My plan is to place in annealing oven to 650 deg or so, soak a bit...


You want to get it to 600-650 all the way through, then keep it there for an hour or so. You shouldn't need to let it cool slowly.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 20, 2016 01:37 AM (di1hb)

783 >>I thought it was perlite

Pearlite is the eutectoid mixture of iron and carbon, I think, as it itself a mixture of ferrite and cementite, Fe3C. That's an iron-carbon compound, a "carbide", which is really a ceramic. Pearlite is those two things making a structure that resembles "pearl" in some way, hence pearlite.

Now, when you have less carbon total than that ratio, you get "free ferrite" in the structure. When you have more carbon, you get something else. :-)

Anyway, mild steel is that hypoeutectoid mixture of carbon and iron, which has pearlite and free ferrite.

Oh, and eutectoid is not to be confused with eutectic, which has to do with mixtures in the liquid phase and is important too.

At some point a little above 2% C, steel becomes "cast iron".

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:37 AM (DW+jj)

784 Silly me, I thought the sales idiot would have mentioned that.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:34 AM (a62hT)

Does the selling store not have an installer? Or maybe sales idiot figured that if you undertook to do the install yourself, that he didn't need to tell you about the cord situation?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 01:37 AM (MiBfH)

785 778 Sounds like you guys could put a new electric box/panel for me. Hmm.
Posted by: Infidel
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You want cheap?
You can get a new 40 circuit, 200 amp Square D panel for $100 these days. With the breakers fercryingoutloud.
I'd do the labor for airfare, dinner, bourbon & a bag of Colorado's finest...

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 01:39 AM (0g+ZS)

786 Silly me, I thought the sales idiot would have mentioned that.
Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:34 AM (a62hT)
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Now don't immediately blame the idiot! The POS (Point of Sale System/and/or/Piece of Shiit) should have recommended associated items to be sold such as power cord, power cord installation contractor service, and an extended service plan. It is probably a system problem and not an idiot problem. /s

Posted by: RioBravo at December 20, 2016 01:40 AM (OmhcY)

787 I went to Lowes. Had it delivered. Learn something new everyday.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:40 AM (a62hT)

788 You can get a new 40 circuit, 200 amp Square D panel for $100 these days. With the breakers fercryingoutloud.

I'd do the labor for airfare, dinner, bourbon a bag of Colorado's finest...


Hmm, can you fly Delta?

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:41 AM (a62hT)

789 Guess Indiegogo isn't releasing the funds since I'm a Trump supporter...

They're based in SF, so wouldn't be all that surprising.

They said the week of Dec 12.

*looks at calendar*

*shrugs*

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 01:41 AM (CRotO)

790 Untuckit is still the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen

Posted by: James the worst of the deplorable at December 20, 2016 01:42 AM (jxw6R)

791 Back in the late 90s, when I was wiring houses, we decided to start hard wiring stoves in, rather than wiring receptacles for them. We'd just put a 4" square junction box and use a piece of flex conduit from that to the range itself.

That eliminated all the plug confusion, not to mention depending on a plug connection for a high current load. We didn't do it with dryers, because the plug connection was too convenient.

I remember my boss at the time said, if they go to replace the stove, they'll see that hardwired conduit-to-junction box, and if they don't know what they're doing, they'll just call somebody who does and not fuck with the 3-wire vs 4-wire plug confusion.

But not for dryers, because hard-wiring that would just "be wrong" he declared.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:43 AM (DW+jj)

792 *shrugs*

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 01:41 AM (CRotO)


Ah, that is not right.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:43 AM (a62hT)

793 790 Untuckit is still the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen
Posted by: James the worst of the deplorable at December 20, 2016 01:42 AM (jxw6R)

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Yeah.

Wish my biggest worry was how my shirt looks untucked.

Yet another reason to hate people.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 01:43 AM (CRotO)

794 Ah, that is not right.
Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:43 AM (a62hT)

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Story of my life.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 01:44 AM (CRotO)

795 "perlite" is a thing, too. It's obsidan volcanic glass with a high water content. Heated to near its melting point it puffs up into light pellets of glass foam.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 01:44 AM (MiBfH)

796 Coming from 20+ years in retail, not only should he have told you about the need to buy a new cord, he should have been up-selling you to the one with gold plated prongs & WiFi capability.
This is retail 101.

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 01:45 AM (0g+ZS)

797 791 Back in the late 90s, when I was wiring houses, we decided to start hard wiring stoves in, rather than wiring receptacles for them. We'd just put a 4" square junction box and use a piece of flex conduit from that to the range itself.

That eliminated all the plug confusion, not to mention depending on a plug connection for a high current load. We didn't do it with dryers, because the plug connection was too convenient.

I remember my boss at the time said, if they go to replace the stove, they'll see that hardwired conduit-to-junction box, and if they don't know what they're doing, they'll just call somebody who does and not fuck with the 3-wire vs 4-wire plug confusion.

But not for dryers, because hard-wiring that would just "be wrong" he declared.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:43 AM (DW+jj)



I have a tendency toward three-way switch configurations, which I've spec'd in certain projects.....and frequently had to debug for the electricians (note -- I'm a CPA, not an electrician).

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:46 AM (EzgxV)

798 They said the week of Dec 12.

*looks at calendar*

*shrugs*

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 01:41 AM (CRotO)

Indiegogo giving you the runaround? Crap. So sad to hear that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 01:48 AM (MiBfH)

799 I went to Lowes.

Huh. I've bought appliances at Lowes, and I usually have to fight off the upsales with a stick. "No, I have those." "I won't need that." "My house is wired that way already." "You can't reuse the braided-steel washer hoses I have? Ok fine, new washer hoses. Nuttin' else."

I guess their sales-rep training isn't very consistent. Admittedly, their plumbing dep't is run by an actual retired plumber...

And, last one I had done, my installer dude was surprised that I had drained my own (leaking) water heater. Yeah, like I was gonna just shut off the water and hope that 50 gallons was gonna stay put until he got there to drain it for me...

Posted by: mikeski at December 20, 2016 01:49 AM (lO+tS)

800 Yep AOP.

Which is why I have to wait until after the new year to hold Carl's service (was going to be this Friday).

And VA is no help.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 01:49 AM (CRotO)

801 Tell me I didn't just watch a commercial that had a female spray something into a toilet bowl to get rid of the smell of her business.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 01:50 AM (6Ll1u)

802 791 Back in the late 90s, when I was wiring houses, we decided to start hard wiring stoves in, rather than wiring receptacles for them. We'd just put a 4" square junction box and use a piece of flex conduit from that to the range itself.

That eliminated all the plug confusion, not to mention depending on a plug connection for a high current load. We didn't do it with dryers, because the plug connection was too convenient.

I remember my boss at the time said, if they go to replace the stove, they'll see that hardwired conduit-to-junction box, and if they don't know what they're doing, they'll just call somebody who does and not fuck with the 3-wire vs 4-wire plug confusion.

But not for dryers, because hard-wiring that would just "be wrong" he declared.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:43 AM (DW+jj)



And, BTW, when we did our kitchen remodel, we had to upgrade the HOUSE 100 Amp service to 200 Amp, then drop a 125 Amp service to a kitchen subpanel, where, IIRC, the double oven (Thermador CM302) took 50 amps by its lonesome.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:50 AM (EzgxV)

803 You don't have to buy a new cord (unless something is wrong with the old one). Just use the old cord. If you have 3-wire installation, just remove the old plug and cordset from the old range or dryer and connect it to the new one, taking care to install the bonding strap/wire as needed.

The default configuration for new appliances is the 4-wire, so if you have a 3 wire setup, you'll need to connect the frame bonding strap/wire to the neutral terminal.

And that's all there is.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:51 AM (DW+jj)

804
And, last one I had done, my installer dude was
surprised that I had drained my own (leaking) water heater. Yeah, like I
was gonna just shut off the water and hope that 50 gallons was gonna
stay put until he got there to drain it for me...

Posted by: mikeski at December 20, 2016


Yep, and these people think we are stupid. We are living in a freak show. I'm not liking it one bit.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:51 AM (a62hT)

805 Tell me I didn't just watch a commercial that had a female spray something into a toilet bowl to get rid of the smell of her business.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 01:50 AM (6Ll1u)

"PongBGone"?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 01:52 AM (MiBfH)

806 If I had a shitload of kids and on welfare (and illegal), I'd get all kinds of help.

Since that isn't the case, not so much.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 01:52 AM (CRotO)

807 801 I can't. I have ID on. I saw it.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:54 AM (a62hT)

808 Yep.
An oven (double or not) would be a 40 or 50 amp circuit. Any respectable guy runs 6 and puts it on a 50 amp breaker.

Publius, any truth to the rumor that ALL home breakers will be required to be arc fault next year?
Bedrooms require it here, last time I dealt with the code nazis.

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 01:56 AM (0g+ZS)

809 I feel like I should go over to yahoo group and spread the warnings from the Krebs article upthread, to help keep 'em safe. But I'd have to dig up a bunch of stuff to get over there. Anyone going that way?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 01:56 AM (EzgxV)

810 I can't log into my yahoo account bc they want a phone number now. I refuse. It's just a throw away acct anyway. Not worried about my real email acct.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 01:58 AM (a62hT)

811 >>And, BTW, when we did our kitchen remodel, we had to upgrade the HOUSE
100 Amp service to 200 Amp, then drop a 125 Amp service to a kitchen
subpanel, where, IIRC, the double oven (Thermador CM302) took 50 amps
by its lonesome.

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Would you believe 200A service is getting a bit on the small side, now. Some of the Mcmansions they were building when I got out of it were coming it at 400A (note if 225A is not big enough and the load calc comes to say 270A, the next size up is 400A).

The trouble is the NEC load calculation is very liberal, erring on the side of caution. You'll see the power companies use a much more conservative and realistic estimate when the size the transformer.

And in high density subdivisions, they like to use a honking huge 100KVA or so transformer and pull a shit ton of services off it. The problem with that is the fault current can be so large, especially on a short service drop, that it exceeds the 10kA rating of the residential service equipment.

A short range run of #6, coming off a main panel fed by one of these monsters can produce more than 10kA fault current at the range. And that shit has happened. Service equipment, rated 10kA, blew on a hard range fault.

I remember reading some caution they sent out about that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 01:59 AM (DW+jj)

812 The Festivus episode of Seinfeld is on now, what's your feat of strength?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 02:02 AM (6Ll1u)

813 Untuckit is still the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen
Posted by: James the worst of the deplorable at December 20, 2016 01:42 AM (jxw6R)




yep. tuck your shirt in nancy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 02:03 AM (cPsPa)

814 The Festivus episode of Seinfeld is on now, what's your feat of strength?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 02:02 AM (6Ll1u)

I helped my neighbor lift an Ingersoll-Rand compressor pump, and an 11 Horse Kohler engine to their places atop the compressor tank. Some heavy iron, there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 02:04 AM (MiBfH)

815 Chi, you're in CA aren't you? That's a whole different ballgame, code and regulatory wise.

I've been out of the game too long to have kept up. Arc-fault was just becoming a thing when I got out of it.

Basically, in just about every way, I'm stuck in the '90s. If I was going to wire a new house now, I'd have to do a bunch of reading of the latest shit. Well, the last thing I did was rig a new little service for a buddy, and it passed inspection no problem, but that wasn't residential.

There's nothing I love more than wiring, but this damned arthritis has ended that for real work. I do what's fun when I feel like it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 02:04 AM (DW+jj)

816 Roses are red,
Mistletoe is a parasite,
Everybody take care, And again tomorrow,
We fight the good fight ...

Posted by: Adriane the Composite Material Critic ... at December 20, 2016 02:07 AM (AoK0a)

817 Today I got a couple of coats of white paint on the new siding I hung on the front of the trailer. Blends the trailer right in with the rest of the facade. Once I get the bottom of the skirting hidden, the illusion will be almost perfect. I think some green-painted wood trim around the doors and windows will help break up the vast expanse of white.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 02:08 AM (MiBfH)

818 does someone keep track of people pardoned by presidents so we are able to track what happens to them?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 02:09 AM (cPsPa)

819 180° to the east, publius.
Almost on the Atlantic ocean. Virginia.
Arc faults are supposed to be the next thing, last I heard. Instead of $3 per breaker, you will be required to use $30 breakers.
And don't change a light bulb with the switch in the on position, or you'll have to reset the breaker...

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 02:11 AM (0g+ZS)

820 There's nothing I love more than wiring, but this damned arthritis has ended that for real work. I do what's fun when I feel like it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 02:04 AM (DW+jj)

I have a mess of wiring to do here. Some will be "new work", and some will be repairing damaged/stolen wiring in the existing structure.

Can room lighting and convenience outlets be on the same breaker, provided the total load doesn't exceed the breaker rating? Can an outside light be on the same breaker as interior convenience outlets? I know outside outlets, and there will be some, should be on GFCI's. I will probably want to have those outlets switched from inside the house, so roaches cannot steal power when I am away.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 02:14 AM (MiBfH)

821 808 Yep.
An oven (double or not) would be a 40 or 50 amp circuit. Any respectable guy runs 6 and puts it on a 50 amp breaker.

Publius, any truth to the rumor that ALL home breakers will be required to be arc fault next year?
Bedrooms require it here, last time I dealt with the code nazis.

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 01:56 AM (0g+ZS)



I'm of two minds about code nazis. Title 24, the bullshit "non-incandescent on first switch" thing, is psychedelic screaming crap.


On the other hand, I experienced the 6.9 Loma Prieta earthquake of 1989, which caused 63 [42 of which on the "Cypress Structure" of I-880, where I'd cringed while driving earlier] deaths and 3,757 injuries. In 2003, a 6.6 earthquake hit the city of Bam, Iran, causing >26271 deaths and >30000 injuries.


I would attribute the three orders of magnitude difference in death rate from a lesser earthquake largely to building codes.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 02:14 AM (EzgxV)

822 814 The Festivus episode of Seinfeld is on now, what's your feat of strength?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
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I have developed the strength to stay in the room when my dog farts.
I no longer have to go sleep on the couch.
I consider this a Herculean effort some days...

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 02:15 AM (0g+ZS)

823 818 does someone keep track of people pardoned by presidents so we are able to track what happens to them?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 20, 2016 02:09 AM (cPsPa)


Nope.

They are free men/women, their debt to society deemed to be paid in full.

see Marc Rich.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at December 20, 2016 02:16 AM (1JnAL)

824 My feat of strength?

*snort*

Running people off.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 02:16 AM (CRotO)

825 I gave heavily to the Human Fund this year.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 02:16 AM (6Ll1u)

826 I've been up since six this am. Nite horde.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 02:21 AM (a62hT)

827 AOP,
Sure, lights & receptacles can be on the same circuit. And sure, indoor/outdoor doesn't matter one bit.

A good rule of thumb is 10 devices per circuit (that's on the way safe side).
Recetacles, switches, lights, fans, etc count as a device. It's your house - one room per circuit, even if it's only 5 receptacles, one switch & 1 ceiling light - will be overkill that'll make you happy. Easy to isolate a room, too.
Wire everything with 12ga & 20 amp breakers just to go overboard.

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 02:24 AM (0g+ZS)

828 I just looked it up. The 2014 NEC AFCI requirements are indeed just about for every 120V 15 or 20A circuit in a residential application. Well, not for ranges, dryers, basically your lighting and 120V receptacle circuits.

So, when the state/local adopts the 2014 NEC, that will be required.

I'm also not too up on the latest technology, and I'm looking. The earliest ones couldn't detect a series arc -- well, it was all involved, but the newer technology does attempt to detect an arc's "signature" (an arc does have a reliable signature in the current waveform.

A brief arc, such as plugging or unpluggin something under load is not supposed to trip them, per the standards. So briefly screwing a light bulb in shouldn't do it, unless you take your time doing it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 02:25 AM (DW+jj)

829 I guess my feat of strength should go to SMFH, God bless you.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 02:27 AM (6Ll1u)

830 827 AOP,
Sure, lights & receptacles can be on the same circuit. And sure, indoor/outdoor doesn't matter one bit.

A good rule of thumb is 10 devices per circuit (that's on the way safe side).
Recetacles, switches, lights, fans, etc count as a device. It's your house - one room per circuit, even if it's only 5 receptacles, one switch & 1 ceiling light - will be overkill that'll make you happy. Easy to isolate a room, too.
Wire everything with 12ga & 20 amp breakers just to go overboard.

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 02:24 AM (0g+ZS)



Copper is cheap, and labor is expensive.....but there are exceptions.



I'm going to switch trades because it's easier to illustrate....the hot water supply line to the laundry room should be tiny.....because that will have it get hot faster. If it's a 1" line, it could take 3 gallons before you're drawing from hot water, and the clothes washer will already be almost full.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 02:28 AM (EzgxV)

831 God bless you.

---

Maybe one day, He will.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 02:36 AM (CRotO)

832 And, it's dead, Jim.
Meh. Almost Columbo'clock anyway. Looks like another Robert Culp episode...

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 02:36 AM (0g+ZS)

833 bye chi

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 02:37 AM (CRotO)

834 Oh, lights and receptables on the same circuit is fine, or used to be (defer to any new insane rules I'm unware of).

However, and this was something my boss at the time like to do, and I got to liking it, was to keep lights and recepts on different circuits. THe reason was to make lighting circuits 15A, with #14 wire. You don't really notice voltage drop on lights if it's not too bad, and doing wads of multi-gang switch setups with 3- and 4-way is much easier with #14 wire than #12.

Now loading. Figure about "180VA" per "outlet". Now, continuous load can be only 80% of the branch circuit rating (with some additional complexity and all that, but you'd have to go on for pages). Note, that 80% of 20A is 16A and 80% of 15A is 12A.

So max continuous load is 12A on a 15A circuit, and 16A on a 20A circuit. 12*120/180 = 8 and 16*120/180 = 10.67

So that's a max of 8 "outlets" on a 15A circuit and 10 on a 20A circuit.

That's how I did it. I put 8 lights per 15 "lighting circuit" and 10 receptacle per 20A "receptacle" circuit. On the plans, I'd divide them up, them walk through and see if there was anything in the way of that by way how we'd have to bore holes and pull wire. That would sometimes change things.

Now, the exception was flood light circuits, which were long, usually, and people would generally put a shit ton of wattage on those things. That was #12 and it's own circuit, and maybe two if there were a shit ton of them specified.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 02:39 AM (DW+jj)

835 You're stuck with me for another 10 or 15 minutes, lady.

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 02:40 AM (0g+ZS)

836 A good rule of thumb is 10 devices per circuit (that's on the way safe side).
Recetacles, switches, lights, fans, etc count as a device. It's your house - one room per circuit, even if it's only 5 receptacles, one switch & 1 ceiling light - will be overkill that'll make you happy. Easy to isolate a room, too.
Wire everything with 12ga & 20 amp breakers just to go overboard.

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 02:24 AM (0g+ZS)

Thanks. That helps. I will also be using 240 volt electric baseboard heaters. One each for the two bedrooms, likely three in the trailer, circa 600 square feet, and maybe two in the front room that's about 12X22. Bathrooms likely will get wall-mount fan heaters. No central air, no central heat. Probably a dedicated 20 amp outlet or two in each living space for window-mount air conditioners.

Heh. Maybe I should opt for 120 volt baseboard heaters, and put the dedicated A/C receptacle on the same circuit. Not like they would ever be used together...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 02:41 AM (MiBfH)

837 I think I'm gonna stay up all night.

And sleep during the day.

Not like I have to be anywhere.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 02:44 AM (CRotO)

838 Yay.

Today would have been my 26th wedding anniversary, if I were still married...heh.

God, I hate this time of year.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 02:48 AM (CRotO)

839 That's how I did it. I put 8 lights per 15 "lighting circuit" and 10 receptacle per 20A "receptacle" circuit. On the plans, I'd divide them up, them walk through and see if there was anything in the way of that by way how we'd have to bore holes and pull wire. That would sometimes change things.

Now, the exception was flood light circuits, which were long, usually, and people would generally put a shit ton of wattage on those things. That was #12 and it's own circuit, and maybe two if there were a shit ton of them specified.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 02:39 AM (DW+jj)

That makes sense to me, and in this house, the lighting and outlets can be quite physically remote. One advantage would be, if I accidentally overload a circuit, and pop the breaker, the room isn't plunged into darkness.

My security lights are already wired. I could get by with three lighting circuits: east bedroom plus front room plus one bath plus two small outside porch lights - six lights, maybe seven. West bedroom plus bath plus "hall" light, 5 lamps. Trailer section would have one lighting circuit. Garage would be the fourth. It's going to get a hundred-amp sub-panel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 02:49 AM (MiBfH)

840 AOP,
Stick with the 220 heaters. Efficiency being the reason. I can't see you using them much, but the cost of materials should be almost equaL (a roll of 12/2 & a few beeakers). Your first electric bill alone should pay for any difference in thermostats & breakers.

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 02:50 AM (0g+ZS)

841 838 Yay.

Today would have been my 26th wedding anniversary, if I were still married...heh.

God, I hate this time of year.

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 02:48 AM (CRotO)



{{{{SMFH}}}} *runs away*

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2016 02:55 AM (EzgxV)

842 thanks cooth.

don't blame you a bit for running away...

Posted by: SMFH - be glad when this f'ing year is over at December 20, 2016 02:56 AM (CRotO)

843 Stick with the 220 heaters. Efficiency being the reason. I can't see you using them much, but the cost of materials should be almost equaL (a roll of 12/2 & a few beeakers). Your first electric bill alone should pay for any difference in thermostats & breakers.

Posted by: Chi at December 20, 2016 02:50 AM (0g+ZS)

Yeah, I know 220 is more efficient. I will just run separate 20 amp 120 volt lines for likely A/C outlets. Fortunately, the layout is such that one such outlet in each room will be within reach of any window likely to get an A/C unit. Trailer section, I'm not sure about. Only the ends are exposed, and no room for window air in either end. I have one old RV roof air unit. Maybe mount that above the kitchen, and rig ducts to bring air to/from the condenser coils?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 03:01 AM (MiBfH)

844 The higher the voltage the better. :-) Less current.

Here's a little quick and dirty calculation to show you how it goes. Losses goes as I^2*R, where R is the resistance of the wiring. Now, hold R fixed. For a given load power P, the load current goes as I = P/V. Plug that in.

Losses = P*R/V^2. Your loss is inverse to the *square* of the operating voltage. Double the voltage, the loss goes down by a factor of four.

Now, to get fancy, you can say, with higher voltage, we can use less wire, and ask what are acceptable voltage drops and all that. When you do, you'll reproduce things they've known for over 100 years. :-)

Now, with power companies, the longer a run, the more load you pick up.

A rule of thumb for distribution is "1kV per mile". Note that with power lines coming from a substation, you have a circle and the larger the radius, the area is going as the square.

But it works out to 1kV per mile of actual distribution line. And that pretty much holds. Which voltage line to line or line to neutral(ground). Well, if you balance it, it's the former.

And so you can get a higher effective voltage with a 3-phase system than the line to ground voltage you have to insulate against. To a point and if done right.

When you've got 480V available, you'd be amazed at the size of motors you can run off even #12 circuits.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 03:03 AM (DW+jj)

845 Well, I am going to pull the pin, and go to bed, too. My sojourn here in AJ is fast drawing to a close, and I still have a mittful of little chores to do before I can leave with a sense of having accomplished something.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 03:04 AM (MiBfH)

846 I love Shorpy.

Posted by: Infidel at December 20, 2016 03:05 AM (a62hT)

847 The first computers I worked on in the Army took 208v 3phase 400 hrts power, Same as the Beach Boys.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 20, 2016 03:07 AM (6Ll1u)

848

When you've got 480V available ...

Will equiment designed to run off of 460V run on 480? Some/most 208V electric motors will run cooler on 220V.

How big a deal is it to get 480V to a home?

Posted by: Arbalest at December 20, 2016 03:07 AM (FlRtG)

849 When you've got 480V available, you'd be amazed at the size of motors you can run off even #12 circuits.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 03:03 AM (DW+jj)

Oh yeah. I'm up on Ohm's Law, and the formula for power loss. My rural line back in Alberta is 15 kV, one-wire, with ground return. Single-phase, of course. I have a transformer on my pole to step it down to 240 volts for the house and outbuildings.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2016 03:08 AM (MiBfH)

850 John Podesta is preparing a potion that will allow my soul to take over Trump's body. I will be President.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 20, 2016 03:16 AM (rH4JY)

851 >> How big a deal is it to get 480V to a home?

A BFD. 3-phase distribution would be needed, and the requirements for a 480V service are more strict than a regular residential service. The equipment has to be rated for the higher voltage, and they don't make cheap residential stuff at that voltage. It's much more expensive.

You could do it. But believe me, it would be quite difficult. You'd need to step it down with your own transformers to get any 120V at all, because they don't make 277V volt household stuff you plug in the wall.

Now, about voltages, 440 vs 460V vs 480V which is the same as 220 vs 230V vs 240V, aka 110 vs 115 vs 120.

Note all voltages are a multiple of some base, which is either 110, 115, or 120V. Even the high voltage up in kV are based on these multiples. You get either an integral mulitple, or one involving the square root of three, which comes from the three-phase relations.

The standard base that motors are based on is 115V. Now, a standard rule for induction motors (and most of them) is the voltage range can be +/-10%. That is, a motor meeting NEMA (in the US) standards will run correctly and deliver rated output without overheating if the terminal voltage is within 10% of the nameplate rated voltage.

For 230V (or 460V, times 2), that is 207V - 257V.

Now, for a standard type (and this changed with high efficiency motors) a "sweet spot" on the motor's curve was +5%. A motor would draw the least running current for a given load (well, near full load) at about +5%. Note that is about 240V for a 230V rated motor.

Now, most supply systems used the 120V as the base.

So, the loads are designed for 115V base, and the supply is designed for 120V base. This gives you voltage drop room. And a nice sweet spot for you motors, if you don't have too much drop.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 03:18 AM (DW+jj)

852 An exception to the "+5%" sweet spot rule is incandescent lighting. The lifetime goes as a high inverse power (7th power, IIRC) of the overvoltage fraction.

You actually want a little lower than rated voltage for incadescent lights! So they are rated 120V to match the standard supply base. And a trick is to use 130V rated bulbs. THey'll be dimmer looking, but they last so much longer.

They also mandated higher efficiency well before they banned 100W. This meant the filament had to run at a higher temperature. This was like a lower rated filament being run at a higher voltage. On purpose. The efficiency in terms of lumens per watt goes up with voltage. It gets brighter and whiter. But the life drops dramatically.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 03:23 AM (DW+jj)

853 And another thing. 230V motors on 208V. Note that 208V (square root of three times 120V) is just right at the low end of the 10% range, which is 207V. You have no room for voltage drop on 208V.

Now, for that reason they make 200V rated motors (note 200V is the square root of three times 115V). This is the proper 115V base voltage multiplier.

You can get away with it, and people do as long as your motor is not at full load.

And you'll note small motors starting across the line don't jerk as much when you have a 230V motor running on 208V. But at full load, you're pushing it.

I wired my shop for 3-phase back in the late 90s. 208Y/120V. I wanted a high-leg, but Duke wouldn't run those anymore without some special circumstance. DIdn't like 'em at all.

So, I used some booster transformers to get 240V for those single phase 230V motors I had a bunch of. And since I had it, the new three-phase stuff I got 230V motors there as well. Since I had it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 03:29 AM (DW+jj)

854 >> My rural line back in Alberta is 15 kV,

The standard distribution voltages that Duke uses here are
12,470Y/7200V and twice that 25Y/14.4kV. 7200V phase to ground and 12, 470V phase-to-phase. You can tell the difference easily as the insulators are twice as big. On ends, they use a type called "bells". They use about twice as many "bells" on the 14.4kV circuits.

They use the latter out in the deep country, and the lower closer to town. Now, there are other voltages used in the cities, especially for some older underground stuff, but for pole wiring, it's usually one of those two.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 03:34 AM (DW+jj)

855 And again, note that 7200V is a simple multiple of 120(0V), 5(0)x.
The oddball 12.5kV comes from the square root of three, which is inherent to 3-phase. You make the phase to ground an integral multiple, and you get the oddball phase to phase. And vice versa.

480V are either 3-wire deltas or wyes, 480Y/277V. The integral multiple is the phase to phase, 4*120V and the oddball is the phase to neutral, 277V.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 20, 2016 03:37 AM (DW+jj)

856 480V are either 3-wire deltas or wyes, 480Y/277V. The integral multiple is the phase to phase, 4*120V and the oddball is the phase to neutral, 277V.
Posted by: publius

"wyes"

Hmm hmm.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 03:46 AM (ZBp8/)

857 I love Shorpy.
Posted by: Infidel


That you, Gabe?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2016 03:47 AM (ZBp8/)

858 Good Morning Everyone.

AOP, you still around?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 04:04 AM (d76uN)

859 The deafening sound of silence. Sometimes, it's for the best.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 04:19 AM (d76uN)

860 In the 800's already, mostly this is my quiet time.
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at December 20, 2016 04:34 AM (5sOEp)

861 there's a reason i hire out electrical w*rk...

and a reason i leave the ONT when day walkers appear.

hasta, y'all.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 20, 2016 04:35 AM (JKi7U)

862 Skip,

I think we have been dissed.

????wth???

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 04:43 AM (d76uN)

863 Does the liquor store open @ 5 or 6am? Asking for a friend... Not a friend exactly, more like a wife.

Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at December 20, 2016 04:48 AM (+kwUl)

864 Should of stocked yesterday Bill. Ummm, for the celebration, Yeah, the celebration.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 04:49 AM (d76uN)

865 Does the liquor store open @ 5 or 6am? Asking for a friend... Not a friend exactly, more like a wife.

Posted by: Bill

How far of a drive is it to Vics house for you Bill?


Bill: Not far enough

Posted by: Bruce at December 20, 2016 04:54 AM (8ikIW)

866 Good news for me. The weather forecasters who are never wrong, have taken the snow on Christmas day out of the rotation. I like a white Christmas, but I don't want the company bringing it into the house with them.


Posted by: Bruce at December 20, 2016 04:57 AM (8ikIW)

867 I came, I seesawed, I conquered.

Posted by: Julius Caesaw at December 20, 2016 04:58 AM (rH4JY)

868 Tim it sure looks like it.
If I had some snow on Christmas and only that day in a year I would be happy.

Posted by: Skip at December 20, 2016 05:00 AM (5sOEp)

869 If I had some snow on Christmas and only that day in a year I would be happy.

Posted by: Skip

I don't mind it as much now that I'm retired. It's not like I have to go out at a usual time.
Saying that, my wifes friend will need some surgery at a hospital that is about an hour away and, of course, closer to Chicago.
I just know I'm going to be driving her to and from.

Posted by: Bruce at December 20, 2016 05:04 AM (8ikIW)

870 I have Kids that love to play in the snow. You should see these tiny Snowball Men we have on the outside window sills.

The Girls want real Snow. We haven't had enough to make a decent Snowman yet.

Send it our way.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 05:04 AM (d76uN)

871 We've had the cold snow, so it doesn't pack. It does blow back on the sidewalk when the wind comes from the other way though.

Posted by: Bruce at December 20, 2016 05:06 AM (8ikIW)

872 Morning, Peeps.

Posted by: fluffy at December 20, 2016 05:35 AM (jw2Xw)

873 Good Morning Fluffly.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 05:45 AM (d76uN)

874 She's on her back & choking on vomit. Turn her on her side? Maybe when I get back from the liquor store.

Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at December 20, 2016 05:50 AM (+kwUl)

875 Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at December 20, 2016 05:50 AM (+kwUl)

That's a horrible thing to do to your designer wife. Your designer kid may not like it.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 05:52 AM (d76uN)

876 Turn her on her side?


Hang her by her feet from a lamppost. It'll help to drain the devil juice out of her.

Posted by: Bruce at December 20, 2016 05:53 AM (8ikIW)

877 Then again, maybe she's just tirreed.

Posted by: Bruce at December 20, 2016 05:54 AM (8ikIW)

878 First day I've been able to leave the house in a few days. Ugh. Stupid winter bugs.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 20, 2016 05:56 AM (J+mig)

879 Most cocktails need a sweet component. Why is this confusing to many bartenders?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2016 05:59 AM (42Mgr)

880 Would a Tequila Sunrise be a Cocktail or a Mixed Drink?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 06:03 AM (d76uN)

881 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 20, 2016 06:04 AM (u82oZ)

882 They taste sweet to me or used to. Damned diabetes anyway.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 06:04 AM (d76uN)

883 If I had heated walkways and driveway I'd be fine with lots more snow. Love it, in fact.

As it is though, I hate shoveling and Kurt has a seizure if I ask him to do it.

Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald's Wife at December 20, 2016 06:06 AM (BKV7y)

884 >>> Most cocktails need a sweet component. Why is this confusing to many bartenders?

Rumpel Minz

Posted by: fluffy at December 20, 2016 06:06 AM (jw2Xw)

885 And, good morning all!

Posted by: MTF at December 20, 2016 06:07 AM (BKV7y)

886 Especially Hillary. Its morning now Hillz; time to put away the vodka and lace up the boots.

Posted by: MTF at December 20, 2016 06:09 AM (BKV7y)

887 So have the Germans managed to come up with a motive of the truck attack carried out by the Pakistani refugee? I think the MSM as declared all of this "not news" so we may never know.

Posted by: Ripley at December 20, 2016 06:09 AM (1BQGO)

888 Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 06:03 AM (d76uN)

I guess I am speaking of the broader category of "mixed drinks."

Aside from a very few....they are best with a hint of sweetness.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2016 06:09 AM (42Mgr)

889 CBD, you're living pretty hard if you are bitching about sub-par cocktails at this hour.

Posted by: fluffy at December 20, 2016 06:09 AM (jw2Xw)

890 Posted by: fluffy at December 20, 2016 06:06 AM (jw2Xw)

Peppermint?

Awful.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2016 06:11 AM (42Mgr)

891 "Especially Hillary. Its morning now Hillz; time to put away the vodka and lace up the boots.

Posted by: MTF"

What are you talking about? She is probably already out for her morning woods walk, chatting up the early morning joggers.

Posted by: Ripley at December 20, 2016 06:11 AM (1BQGO)

892 20 ℉!

After the last few days this is flip-flops and running shorts weather. But not OM book thread's knit shorts. -- shudder --

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 20, 2016 06:12 AM (u82oZ)

893 I have a crappy cold which has kept me from a sound sleep, so I might as well obsess a bit.

I had a crappy Manhattan last night. But the bartender was smoking hot, so there's that.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2016 06:13 AM (42Mgr)

894 >>> Peppermint?
>>> Awful.

Sip it straight and don't adulterate it with other liquors.

It was the toast of choice here last night. Mrs fluffy was genuinely stressed about the electoral college noise.

Posted by: fluffy at December 20, 2016 06:16 AM (jw2Xw)

895 31 Days. Please Vlad, wait 31 days.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 06:17 AM (d76uN)

896 My wife used to love a Tequila Sunrise.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 20, 2016 06:19 AM (mpXpK)

897 It seemed clear to me that the vast majority of the electors would take their responsibility seriously and just to their jobs.

There was, as you say, a lot of noise, but not much action.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2016 06:20 AM (42Mgr)

898 Tim,

Do you think Putin will do anything other than low-level stuff?

They already have proxies fighting each otther in Syria. What more can they do without crossing the line into stupid?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2016 06:22 AM (42Mgr)

899 My policies are working! Here is the heartwarming story (via Drudge) of Abdul Mohammed Rauf, the former Taliban "Health" Minister who tried and failed to claim asylum in Germany. Dumbfuck, as he is known to his friends, has done this before, most recently in Norway.

http://tinyurl.com/z6jz8zg

Posted by: TFG, Emperor Of The First Tee at December 20, 2016 06:22 AM (BKV7y)

900 G'morning, all.

Still no hint of what might have cases that German truck to lose control?

I'm sure some crack reporter will eventually get to the bottom of it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 20, 2016 06:23 AM (J+eG2)

901 My wife has recently started following politics.

Hell, she reads the comments at Breitbart.

Posted by: fluffy at December 20, 2016 06:23 AM (jw2Xw)

902 Not only did hillzebub loose the Electoral College vote, she also lost more faithless electors than PE Trump.

#winning

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 06:23 AM (d76uN)

903 We should all compromise and inaugurate Faith Swpotted Eagle.

Posted by: fluffy at December 20, 2016 06:25 AM (jw2Xw)

904 What was it? She lost three and he lost two?

Much ado about nothing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 20, 2016 06:26 AM (42Mgr)

905 Hillary, since you won't be busy, please remove the superfluous 'w' from my last comment.

Posted by: fluffy at December 20, 2016 06:26 AM (jw2Xw)

906 4-2 I think.

3 for powell
1 for FSE

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 06:27 AM (d76uN)

907 Fluffy, Swpotted is about right. An inspired typo.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 20, 2016 06:27 AM (u82oZ)

908 Someone in Hawaii voted for Bernie.

Posted by: fluffy at December 20, 2016 06:27 AM (jw2Xw)

909 1 elector from MN, IIRC, was replaced for refusing to vote for hillzebub. Another took 17 rounds of voting before finally voting for madam arf arf.

It could have been worse.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 20, 2016 06:30 AM (d76uN)

910 Someone in Hawaii voted for Bernie.

Oblabla is there now. Maybe he wandered off the golf course and did it for a prank

Posted by: Bruce at December 20, 2016 06:30 AM (8ikIW)

911 Morning, all. Yesterday was very strange...I worked until ten (prepping for Christmas vacay) and was pretty much in the zone so as I was on the train home and reconnecting with the world my hilarity at Hillary winding up with more faithless electors than Trump was immediately doused by the horror of the Kristkindlemarkt terrorism and the Russian ambassador. I saw the video of the assassination. The shock on his face when the bullets hit really shook me.

Posted by: Gem at December 20, 2016 06:31 AM (uaHyk)

912 Gem

There sure are a lot of shenanigans in Turkey recently. If only we had outfits in the US Government that could find out what is going on behind the facade. If only ..

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 20, 2016 06:34 AM (u82oZ)

913 EMT is up

Posted by: Bruce at December 20, 2016 06:38 AM (8ikIW)

914 I love Shorpy.
Posted by: Infidel


I did until they decided - on the day Trump won the GOP nomination - to oh-so-coincidentally post a picture of a Klan rally.

Fuck that.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 20, 2016 06:41 AM (X6fMO)

915
My wife used to love a Tequila Sunrise.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 20, 2016 06:19 AM (mpXpK)
________________________

Yes, Paolo knows...

Posted by: Paolo at December 20, 2016 06:53 AM (KoeFI)

916 727:. 120/120/240 is 3-phase. Your range and dryer are single phase: two 120 volt wires, no 240 V

Posted by: CitizenX at December 20, 2016 08:41 AM (mvyKt)

917 On fat and stupid... What the hell did he think was gonna happen?? Has he hoping to die in the process? Would have been faster (but certainly not as entertaining) to just jump into a bonefire if he wanted to burn himself badly.

Posted by: Janir at December 20, 2016 11:07 AM (Lk5qN)

918 Under socialism all will govern in turn and will soon become accustomed to no one governing. Vladimir Lenin
What a crock of shit, Vlad.

In that case, let's get rid of all traffic lights and stop signs.

Posted by: Learn Some History at December 20, 2016 07:03 PM (SJ184)

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