Wednesday Night ONT: Clearing Out The Browser Tabs Edition

Hi gang! Welcome to the Wednesday night ONT, starting with an encore appearance by the star of last week's ONT:

Tonight is going to be all over the place because I have a lot of tabs open with a lot of content I've been saving, and I'm going to clear them all out.

Quote of the Day

I don't want to steal Mis Hum's bit, but this struck me:

Our heroes are old and stooped and wizened, but they are the only giants we have. Today, when we talk about Americans boldly going where no man has gone before, we mean the ladies' bathroom. Progress.
-Mark Steyn on the passing of John Glenn

Source. He has a point. We've gone from a nation of bold overachievers to a bunch of locally sourced pussies, nattering about trivial nonsense and obsessed with our feels.

Don't Ever Tell Me Santa Isn't Real

He's as real as it gets for this little boy. This story had me crying like a baby. It was obviously devastating for the guy playing Santa, but I think it was probably wonderful for the little boy. Rest in peace, little guy.

Related, from, I believe, 4-Chan of all places:

Let It Snow

Plowing with a hoverboard. Clever kid. Don't think it would work so well with deep snow, however.

Christmas Cheer

James Tiberius Kirk wouldn't wear this, and Benjamin Sisco would punch you if you suggested it. I'm just saying.

You know who would wear it? This guy:

Unfortunately, he's pretty busy at the moment, obsessing about Donald Trump.

So.......do you want to tell him or should I?

Update

Last week I linked a story about a guy who was caught on film punching a kangaroo. Well, it seems things are escalating down under, and the situation is now pretty tense. Hollywood is on it:

Bruh �� pic.twitter.com/3Bxfdal9au
— Daily Roasts (@DaiIyRoasts) December 9, 2016

Update II:

We covered dad reflexes on a previous ONT. Apparently, they are present from youth:

This 9-year-old boy saved his baby brother with an epic catch https://t.co/lXN1FPQWy8 pic.twitter.com/Wv7hHkoYVO
— CNN (@CNN) November 18, 2016

Troll Level: God

I apologize in advance to those of you on cell phones for the tall photo, but this makes me laugh like a loon (and randomly say “chicken” for a couple of hours) every time I read it:

Great Photography

Explore an Eerie Soviet Base at the Edge of the World

Shapran endured piercing wind and the constant fear of bumping into a polar bear during his three weeks there. The short window of daylight, just six hours long when he arrived, gave way to total darkness by the time he returned home in December, leaving the desolate landscape behind.

What I find most fascinating is that these are color photos, but they appear to be black and white. My wife, who lived for several years in the Arctic in Canada, was less impressed. Still, some haunting images.

(Musical?) Interlude

Rockwell Warned Us About This Back in the 1980s

Google Maps Is Tracking Your Every Move, And There's Even A Website To Prove It

News You Can Use

Government is Here to Help

How The US Government Legally Stole Millions From Kim Dotcom

I'm not concerned here with the legality or not of Kim Dotcom's business model. What's salient is how the government can crush anyone one without regards to their “rights” or the “law” at will.

Dutch Euthanasia Goes Looney Toons

Thoughtful post by our own esteemed “Fill-in-the-Blank” Hat

Man Faces Huge Fines After Using Drone to Bring Sausage to His Hot Tub

Thank God the government down under is there to protect the population from rogue sausages. Oh the humanity!

And what happens when the government stops interfering with every aspect of our lives? Not what you'd think, or rather, exactly what y'all would think, but certainly not what we're taught in schools. I love the weasel words from the American farmer in the story who observed this. Even seeing the results, he can't bear to even suggest that he isn't entitled to a long pull from the government tit.

What Happened When New Zealand Got Rid of Government Subsidies for Farmers

Veterans

USS Springfield Conducts Burial Sea, Reuniting a Sailor with Lost Shipmates
Captain Rogers had been scheduled to ship out on the ill-fated voyage of USS Thresher, but another officer with more experience was assigned to the boat instead. Earlier this year Captain Rogers was buried at sea over the icy tomb of his former shipmates.

Vet Dies With Maggots Crawling In His Wound

At a VA hospital, of course. THIS is where I'd put Mitt Romney if I was Donald Trump. He demonstrated in Salt Lake that he has a talent for turning around failing enterprises. I'd give him carte blanche.

Veteran's home vandalized, torched

The tolerant left strikes again. The vet was a Trump supporter.

Some Things Don't Translate Across Cultures

Like slapping women for daring to turn you down.

Churchill on America

No one can think clearly or sensibly about this vast and burning topic without in the first instance making up his mind upon the fundamental issue. Does he value the State above the citizen, or the citizen above the State? Does a government exist for the individual, or do individuals exist for the government?
I hold that governments are meant to be, and must remain, the servants of the citizens; that states and federations only come into existence and can only by justified by preserving the ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness’ in the homes and families of individuals,
I judge the civilization of any community by simple tests. What is the degree of freedom possessed by the citizen or subject? Can he think, speak and act freely under well-established, well-known laws? Can he criticize the executive government? Can he sue the State if it has infringed his rights? Are there also great processes for changing the law to meet new conditions? Judging by these standards, Great Britain and the United States can claim to be in the forefront of civilized communities.

Source

Tonight's ONT brought to you by traps:

The Yahoo Group wants a dozen Maple Dips from Tim Hortons.

Chicken

Posted by: WeirdDave at 10:08 PM

Comments

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1 *Plants Flag*

*runs away*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 14, 2016 10:05 PM (6gk0M)

2 'Lo, 'rons....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 10:06 PM (EzgxV)

3 So much content!

Posted by: Flyboy at December 14, 2016 10:06 PM (L+dg+)

4 Top 10.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 14, 2016 10:08 PM (b9JGJ)

5 Awesome work WeirdDave. And no, let Sulu find out just how much Harry Reid screwed the Dems on nominations...though of course Sulu is too old for Harry to do that to him.

Allegedly.

Posted by: Bete stays up at December 14, 2016 10:08 PM (Ojki1)

6 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 14, 2016 10:10 PM (KCxzN)

7 Dang, all kinds of Rogue One leaks are hitting the interwebs.

Posted by: CDR M at December 14, 2016 10:11 PM (9I51B)

8 all kinds of Rogue One leaks

Like "Rogue One Is A Stinker" ?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 10:11 PM (6FqZa)

9 Wow, enough content here for three ONTs. So much for malingering before Christmas.

Posted by: Splunge at December 14, 2016 10:12 PM (iMxBJ)

10 No like in actual video of the movie.

Posted by: CDR M at December 14, 2016 10:12 PM (9I51B)

11 That Vader scene. Hot damn!

Posted by: CDR M at December 14, 2016 10:13 PM (9I51B)

12 That chicken thing tho . . .

Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2016 10:13 PM (sBOL1)

13 I'm going to bed and to nightmares of shirtless sweaty George Takei balls deep in hairy poop-chute and the horror that is Pegman.

Well done , WD. Well done indeed.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at December 14, 2016 10:14 PM (zu88C)

14 Diamond and Silk for press secretary

Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 14, 2016 10:14 PM (BS8yt)

15 Great ONT WD, thanks. And the unpermitted traps was the best laugh I've had all week.

Posted by: tbodie at December 14, 2016 10:14 PM (/DNWp)

16 That, right there, is an astounding smorgasbord of content.

Thank you, WeirdDave.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 10:15 PM (EzgxV)

17 Awesome ONT, WeirdDave. I especially love the kid shoveling snow on the hoverboard, and the cop trap. Great sense of humor they have.

Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2016 10:15 PM (sBOL1)

18 Chicken, chicken, chicken is pure poetry.

I bow to their greatness.

Posted by: mpfs, DeplorableFishstick at December 14, 2016 10:16 PM (d2/pK)

19 So much...."content"!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 14, 2016 10:16 PM (kP16F)

20 No like in actual video of the movie.
Posted by: CDR M at December 14, 2016 10:12 PM (9I51B)

Downside of opening the film in other parts of the world first- the torrents hit the US before the film does.

Posted by: Bete stays up at December 14, 2016 10:17 PM (Ojki1)

21 well, it seems the chinese are less tolerant of jihadi culture than the europeans. sure he slapped her but then he got an epic brucette lee ass kicking.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:17 PM (cPsPa)

22
Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times

That is just too good.

Posted by: davidt at December 14, 2016 10:17 PM (XoldI)

23 Trigglypuff: Press secretary.

Press corps: Is it true that president Trump lied to-
Trigglypuff: YAJDHDJDJDJD DIOOTNALWORU DIFORJSBAKFI DIFIRPSLLWIR RUTKFBRISOAOD!

PC: But Putin sai-
TP: PAKEHR RIRIAPAMBT DUDUDJANSH DOROTJFJ!

PC: Trump needs to answe-
TP: YAJDJDJRPDKRLAJAJD DJFLDLFKFNRJ SJALpxprb!
Thank you, this concludes the briefing.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2016 10:17 PM (dnWSK)

24 Surprised your PC didn't freeze up with all those open tabs Dave.

Quite the ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2016 10:17 PM (voOPb)

25 "I accidentally slept with a Donald Trump supporter"

I hope he took video.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 10:18 PM (6FqZa)

26 No like in actual video of the movie.
Posted by: CDR M at December 14, 2016 10:12 PM (9I51B)

Downside of opening the film in other parts of the world first- the torrents hit the US before the film does.
Posted by: Bete stays up at December 14, 2016 10:17 PM (Ojki1)

which is very problematic because the highest ticket prices are in the US. might be a billion chinese but they are not paying $20 per ticket.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:19 PM (cPsPa)

27 Ain't we lucky we got 'EM! GOOD TIMES!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2016 10:19 PM (dnWSK)

28 I read the above link about Kim Dotcom as "Kink Dotcom". I said what the hell, the US government is seizing a BDSM website?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 14, 2016 10:19 PM (DW+jj)

29 very funny cop trap.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:20 PM (cPsPa)

30 Well harrumph.
On my way home from practice and pulled off the road to thank Mis Hum for putting up the Kathy Mathew vid last night.
Will check in in about an hour to see if little shyning man is around to talk to him about th he guitar cabinet he's building.

Posted by: teej at December 14, 2016 10:20 PM (gJ3Vg)

31 I read the above link about Kim Dotcom as "Kink Dotcom". I said what the hell, the US government is seizing a BDSM website?
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 14, 2016 10:19 PM (DW+jj)

same difference

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:20 PM (cPsPa)

32 Tim Horton's? maple cream? I'm partial to their Boston Cream donuts instead, but maple cream will do.

Not a big fan of the coffee there, but others will line up for it.

By the way, a mighty ONT tonight sir. Mighty indeed.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 10:20 PM (rB/gm)

33 Per Daily Mail, the Santa story may not be real. I didn't have the heart to read the piece, as that Santa story made me cry.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 14, 2016 10:21 PM (oZEJt)

34 Yeoman's work on the ONT, Weirddave. Thank you!!

Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at December 14, 2016 10:21 PM (VnCI9)

35 I'm using the chicken to measure it.

Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2016 10:21 PM (BO/km)

36 They were posting about the hot chicks of the 80s here today but didn't mention that one girl.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 14, 2016 10:21 PM (BS8yt)

37 Not a big fan of the coffee there, but others will line up for it.

By the way, a mighty ONT tonight sir. Mighty indeed.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 10:20 PM (rB/gm)

well it's canadiastan, where else are they going to go for fine dining?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:21 PM (cPsPa)

38 Google Maps Is Tracking Your Every Move, And There's Even A Website To Prove It

Not me, because I turned that option off! And I am CERTAIN that Google wouldn't collect the data anyways...

Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2016 10:22 PM (NBHj5)

39 It's great that New Zealand has eliminated their crop subsidies and it has turned into a boom for innovation and profits for New Zealand farmers but.....DONT YOU FUCKING TOUCH MY GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES!
That about sums it up.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2016 10:23 PM (dnWSK)

40 Posted by: teej at December 14, 2016 10:20 P

You're welcome teej

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2016 10:23 PM (voOPb)

41 well it's canadiastan, where else are they going to go for fine dining?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:21 PM (cPsPa)

Harvey's, my good man, Harvey's.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 10:23 PM (rB/gm)

42 Ok, made the mistake of watching the cocksucker Hollywood actors telling electors to vote against Trump, now I'm beyond fucking pissed, my hubby is kinda worried about me, I just went on a five minute rant , gonna go smoke a cig. So SICK of their shit! Trump won, you sore fucking losers!!!!

Posted by: lousagirl at December 14, 2016 10:23 PM (9plvG)

43 I'm laughing like an idiot at the chicken paper. Freakin' hilarious.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2016 10:24 PM (0mRoj)

44 Idiot celebrities acting idiotic...again..

Celebrities urge electors not to vote for Trump

http://tinyurl.com/jfahsqk

Posted by: Rgallegos at December 14, 2016 10:24 PM (59GQk)

45 Evening all.

Prog scum can all go die in a fire. I'd pour gasoline on them if it would help.

That's all for the moment.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 14, 2016 10:24 PM (D2vc1)

46 Chicken train. Runnin' all day.
Chicken train. Runnin' all day.
Chicken train. Runnin' all day.

Posted by: Ozark Mountain Darediablos at December 14, 2016 10:24 PM (ixxO0)

47 21 well, it seems the chinese are less tolerant of jihadi culture than the europeans. sure he slapped her but then he got an epic brucette lee ass kicking.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:17 PM (cPsPa)

I don't know about the ISIS types, but the Gulf arabs are not fighters. After the first Gulf war, hubby was out and about, and saw two kuwaitis getting into an altercation after a car wreck. They each hit each other, and fell down, and didn't get back up. He stayed to watch to see what happened, and after half an hour, left because they were still on the ground.

Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at December 14, 2016 10:24 PM (VnCI9)

48 Harvey's, my good man, Harvey's.
Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 10:23 PM (rB/gm)

really? harvey's is good?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:25 PM (cPsPa)

49 https://tinyurl.com/zgqob8w

EARLY CHRISTMAS: Source Indicates FBI Is STILL Investigating CLINTON Foundation

Posted by: Evilpens at December 14, 2016 10:25 PM (y3aQB)

50 I have a confession to make: I didn't read every word in the chicken image. I just skimmed through it.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 14, 2016 10:25 PM (R+30W)

51 GFM slaps Chinese girl for refusing to dance with him. Chinese girl proceeds to whup his ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2016 10:25 PM (0mRoj)

52 I don't know about the ISIS types, but the Gulf arabs are not fighters. After the first Gulf war, hubby was out and about, and saw two kuwaitis getting into an altercation after a car wreck. They each hit each other, and fell down, and didn't get back up. He stayed to watch to see what happened, and after half an hour, left because they were still on the ground.
Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at December 14, 2016 10:24 PM (VnCI9)

chuckle

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:25 PM (cPsPa)

53 So bars never close in Louisiana? I like it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 14, 2016 10:26 PM (NbJXF)

54 50 I have a confession to make: I didn't read every word in the chicken image. I just skimmed through it.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 14, 2016 10:25 PM (R+30W)

Chicken.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2016 10:26 PM (0mRoj)

55 the hard times create strong men thing sounds a lot like "the fourth turning".

http://www.fourthturning.com/

where's art bell when you need him?

Posted by: Anachronda at December 14, 2016 10:26 PM (Oi5b2)

56 Posted by: lousagirl at December 14, 2016 10:23 PM (9plv

Losing doesn't make a person a loser.

Bursting into tears and acting like a complete asswipe for a month (and counting) is what makes a person a loser.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 10:27 PM (rB/gm)

57 The bar map for MS (and LA for that matter) is not accurate as we have casinos, and they never close and they all have bars.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 14, 2016 10:28 PM (oZEJt)

58 When you see the word chicken written out that many times you realize what a strange looking word it is.

Posted by: Tuna at December 14, 2016 10:28 PM (JSovD)

59 Well this looks interesting for next summer. Christopher Nolan's Dunkirk.

https://youtu.be/XRtZUkAR2u4

Talk about a time of men at a pivotal moment.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 14, 2016 10:29 PM (uYZSX)

60 Muslim slaps Chinese woman for refusing to dance with him? Looks more to me like "Muslim gets his ass fucking kicked repeatedly by Chinese woman".

Oh, and I laughed for about 5 minutes after reading the chicken thing.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at December 14, 2016 10:29 PM (w+Jhj)

61 When you see the word chicken written out that many times you realize what a strange looking word it is.
Posted by: Tuna at December 14, 2016 10:28 PM (JSovD)

true of any word. pick a word say it 100 times.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:29 PM (cPsPa)

62 Oh wait the LA map is accurate; the bars never close there.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 14, 2016 10:29 PM (oZEJt)

63 Where and why did Gingy live North of 60, Weird Dave? (I've never been; family is from North Ontario.)

Posted by: andycanuck at December 14, 2016 10:30 PM (ENpER)

64 Losing doesn't make a person a loser.

I prefer to think of it as "alternatively winning"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 10:30 PM (6FqZa)

65 Hey everybody.

For I think just over a month now, I've been reading "The Filmmaker's Handbook," Fourth Edition, and learning lots about the still fairly new world of digital video, as well as a lot of really cool acronyms. "Your XDCAM and IPS-ranked LCD are OK, but you should upgrade your SD cards and RAID or your NLE is DOA." Uh, okay...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:30 PM (u8kLQ)

66 That's not Chicken.

That's my Master's thesis.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2016 10:30 PM (EZebt)

67 59 Halfwise, exactly. I really didn't enjoy the media, Obama, Hollywood, co-workers, etc etc etc telling me every day you lost, get over it. But I didn't shit the bed for two months about it!
I went to work, cleaned my house, made dinner, paid bills, lived my life!!
Sick of this shit

Posted by: lousagirl at December 14, 2016 10:31 PM (9plvG)

68 I'm convinced that there is some dark conspiracy, using subliminal suggestion to cause me to want a Berretta 92.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:31 PM (ZO497)

69 Is skimmed chicken something you make with Kraft "cheese food products"?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 14, 2016 10:31 PM (ENpER)

70 BTW, does anyone here know about how to set up a RAID?

As I understand it, it's neither that tough or expensive, if you know what you're doing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:31 PM (u8kLQ)

71 Posted by: Tuna at December 14, 2016 10:28 PM (JSovD)

Yes, I was beginning to think it had been misspelled after a while!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 14, 2016 10:31 PM (wCEn4)

72 ey everybody.

For I think just over a month now, I've been reading "The Filmmaker's Handbook," Fourth Edition, and learning lots about the still fairly new world of digital video, as well as a lot of really cool acronyms. "Your XDCAM and IPS-ranked LCD are OK, but you should upgrade your SD cards and RAID or your NLE is DOA." Uh, okay...
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:30 PM (u8kL

lot less work to just get your porn off the internets. less likely to get arrested too.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:32 PM (cPsPa)

73 Downside of opening the film in other parts of the world first- the torrents hit the US before the film does.

Downside?

Posted by: Hollywood can f*ck right off at December 14, 2016 10:32 PM (wpC7C)

74 Fuck the VA.

That is all.

Posted by: SMFH at December 14, 2016 10:32 PM (CRotO)

75 Damn, I would be up all night if I read all the content. That's one meaty ONT, weirddave. I was amused by the chicken trolling and the cop trap.

You know what else was amusing? Did anybody else see the Cali secessionist Tucker Carlson had on tonight, who singlehandedly confirmed stereotypes about fruits and nuts rolling to the Left coast?

Tucker asked Cali guy what would be done with the US military bases in California. Cali dude said he didn't think California Nation would really need a military since they're all peace-loving and diverse and so who would want to f with them? They'll have some border controls but that will be done by the California Highway Patrol. CHiPs will protect us!

Carlson is a native Californian himself, but he could not refrain from laughter interviewing this dude.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 10:32 PM (P8951)

76 48 Harvey's, my good man, Harvey's.
Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 10:23 PM (rB/gm)

really? harvey's is good?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:25 PM (cPsPa)

Harvey's cooks real hamburgers over real flames and when yours is cooked you get to tell the person exactly what you want on it. They put it together as you watch and coach them.

Not suitable for vegetarians, though.

Of course, "vegetarian" comes from the Ojibway word meaning "clumsy hunter".

Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 10:33 PM (rB/gm)

77 Speaking of chicken, the Denny's ad with the chicken and the song "Love Machine" was epic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3fNJzy-n7M

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at December 14, 2016 10:33 PM (w+Jhj)

78 55 the hard times create strong men thing sounds a lot like "the fourth turning".

http://www.fourthturning.com/

Posted by: Anachronda at December 14, 2016 10:26 PM (Oi5b2)

Very much so. I was going to point that out.

Oh, we're in the "crisis" phase now, in case anyone is wondering.

Posted by: rickl at December 14, 2016 10:33 PM (sdi6R)

79 I lost my job because of this bullshit, and ya know what, I've moved on.
Liberals really fucking take the happiness out of everything, that's a fact!!

Posted by: lousagirl at December 14, 2016 10:33 PM (9plvG)

80 One of my FB friends posted "fuck you, Harry," in response to a story he found quoting Harry Reid saying Republicans "don't have the nerve" to repeal Obamacare.

I responded in the thread, "And he doesn't have very much longer before he enters hell."

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:33 PM (u8kLQ)

81 That video of the Chinese girl is hysterical. She whooped his ass.

Posted by: Tami at December 14, 2016 10:34 PM (Enq6K)

82 "
I'm convinced that there is some dark conspiracy, using subliminal suggestion to cause me to want a Berretta 92.

Posted by: Mike Hammer"

I'd like one of those.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at December 14, 2016 10:34 PM (w+Jhj)

83 Okay, gay Asian Star Trek guy has definitely overstayed his welcome.
You go now! Go now!!

Posted by: tu3031 at December 14, 2016 10:34 PM (qJhUV)

84 y5, uh, okay. Not sure what you meant. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:35 PM (u8kLQ)

85 Liberals love misery and I am moving on from this shit, ya wanna be miserable, take it somewhere else

Posted by: lousagirl at December 14, 2016 10:35 PM (9plvG)

86 So SICK of their shit! Trump won, you sore fucking losers!!!!
Posted by: lousagirl at December 14, 2016 10:23 PM (9plvG)

Don't get mad, point and laugh. It won't work.

Hillary will never be president.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 10:35 PM (P8951)

87 I responded in the thread, "And he doesn't have very much longer before he enters hell."

For ol' Harry, the scamp, the trick is getting the weight room equipment set up just right.

Posted by: nergal, prince of the underworld at December 14, 2016 10:36 PM (6FqZa)

88 Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 14, 2016 10:36 PM (FYrz1)

89 Where and why did Gingy live North of 60, Weird Dave? (I've never been; family is from North Ontario.)

She lived in Yellowknife. Not quite above the circle, but close enough. If you can toss boiling water in the air and have it turn into snow instantly, it counts in my book. She told me the lowest temp she had ever experienced was -70.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 14, 2016 10:36 PM (yIhYo)

90 As I understand it, it's neither that tough or expensive, if you know what you're doing.
Posted by: qdpsteve
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cthulhu - But you'll only get hit with more acronyms and abbreviations. The argot of the Nerdish tribe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:36 PM (ZO497)

91 I tried to share this last night, but it didn't take, I think because I shared it way too late in the ONT thread.

Anyway, it's sad about Sears.

"Sears Transformed America. It Deserves to Die With Dignity." - Megan McArdle

http://tinyurl.com/gt8d4je

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:37 PM (u8kLQ)

92 68 I'm convinced that there is some dark conspiracy, using subliminal suggestion to cause me to want a Berretta 92.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:31 PM (ZO497)

It's the Russians... brain hacking. (somber nod)

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 14, 2016 10:37 PM (yTnCT)

93 She told me the lowest temp she had ever experienced was -70.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 14, 2016 10:36 PM (yIhYo)

So, it's almost as cold as Wisconsin right now

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 10:37 PM (P8951)

94 lousagirl, yes!!!!

Mike, true. TMA - too many acronyms.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:38 PM (u8kLQ)

95 Andycanuck! Good to see you.

I want to say that I am very sorry for alarming you that night, and I'm glad I got Blanco to let you know I hold no hard feelings. As a matter of fact, if you check the Monday ONT at acecomments.mu.nu/?post=367307 and read my comments between @780 and @799, you'll find that I have had the same hard feelings as I have toward my refrigerator.

But I am really sorry I caused you grief.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 10:38 PM (EzgxV)

96 but close enough.
Near enough by reckoning too.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 14, 2016 10:38 PM (ENpER)

97 Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times

====

I'm not sure whether we're at Stage III or IV.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2016 10:38 PM (EZebt)

98 ... my reckoning ...

Posted by: andycanuck at December 14, 2016 10:38 PM (ENpER)

99 nergal, LOL.

The next time the exercise equipment comes for you, Harry, no one will be able to hear you scream.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:38 PM (u8kLQ)

100 I'd like one of those.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert
------------

I'm convinced the cosmetics make it a favorite for Hollywood. They're everywhere.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:39 PM (ZO497)

101 I'm still laughing at the thought of a Jerky Boys DNC call.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2016 10:39 PM (PeNEi)

102 70 BTW, does anyone here know about how to set up a RAID?

As I understand it, it's neither that tough or expensive, if you know what you're doing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:31 PM (u8kLQ)

Depends. What kind of RAID are you thinking, what kind of hardware and OS are you looking at?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 10:40 PM (EzgxV)

103 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 14, 2016 10:40 PM (IcT7t)

104 92 68 I'm convinced that there is some dark conspiracy, using subliminal suggestion to cause me to want a Berretta 92.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:31 PM (ZO497)

It's the Russians... brain hacking. (somber nod)

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 14, 2016 10:37 PM (yTnCT)

Indeed. Never mind that he wants an Italian handgun instead of a Russian handgun. That's just the Russians covering their tracks.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2016 10:40 PM (0mRoj)

105 >>Hard times create strong men

Strong men, also, cry.

Posted by: The Big Lebowski at December 14, 2016 10:40 PM (PeNEi)

106 cthulhu, 4 drives, to hopefully speed up Final Cut Pro X.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:41 PM (u8kLQ)

107 i like the idea of romney for the v.a. but he did put in obamacare in massachussets sort of showing a tolerance for bureaucracy. dunno. seems like someone more ruthless is called for. oh well.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 14, 2016 10:41 PM (WTSFk)

108 es anyone here know about how to set up a RAID?

As I understand it, it's neither that tough or expensive, if you know what you're doing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:31 PM (u8kLQ)

foreign or domestic?

for domestic you are usually going to need some sort of warrant.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:41 PM (cPsPa)

109 Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:37 PM (u8kLQ)

That Montrose LP is sitting by the door.

Did that email I sent you make it through?

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2016 10:41 PM (PeNEi)

110 Chicken thing is epic!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2016 10:41 PM (0tfLf)

111 Oh, we're in the "crisis" phase now, in case anyone is wondering.

Posted by: rickl at December 14, 2016 10:33 PM (sdi6R)

And according to them, the "resolution" of this crisis phase occurs around 2020, one way or another.

And I believe they also said every Crisis period ends with war.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 14, 2016 10:42 PM (D2vc1)

112 I'm still not sick of all this winning, and I'm trying to envision a scenario in which I might get sick of winning.

I may have found it.

If Trump decided to treat the Presidential Alert System as his personal Twitter account, and one that actually wakes up every American with a cell phone, that might be a little too much winning for my taste.

See, instead of tweeting, for example, "Rosie O'Donnell is a disgusting slob, and nobody watched her show because she's a nasty person. Sad!", at 3am, he could choose to wake us all up at 3am to tell us that via the Presidential Alert System.

I could see myself being sick of winning at that point.

Frankly, I think if Hillary wanted to make us all afraid of a Trump presidency, she's have gotten a lot more mileage out of talking about the Presidential Alert System than about the "nuclear football". Good thing she didn't think of that, huh?

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 14, 2016 10:42 PM (0OG8D)

113 Indeed. Never mind that he wants an Italian handgun instead of a Russian handgun. That's just the Russians covering their tracks.
Posted by: Insomniac
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Clever bastards, are the Rooskies.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:42 PM (ZO497)

114 Somebody should send that VA story to Trump.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 14, 2016 10:42 PM (D2vc1)

115 >>I'm convinced that there is some dark conspiracy, using subliminal suggestion to cause me to want a Berretta 92.

I have one in .40 cal. Nice gun.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2016 10:42 PM (PeNEi)

116 I hate wrapping Christmas presents.

You know what's fun? Two cats "helping."

*back to Christmas wrapping funz*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 14, 2016 10:43 PM (PY9jH)

117 I also learned yesterday, that most of the best RAID systems, like RAID 5 and 10 (i.e., those that protect your data), *use up* half your HD space.

Which makes sense, the RAID's got to have a space to duplicate the data. Still, I imagine it's frustrating if you've spent a pretty penny on 40TB worth of hard drives, and find out you can only use 20 of it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:43 PM (u8kLQ)

118 One thing about maggots is that they will really debride a wound, probably better than a human. There are medical uses of maggots to do so. Not in this case, but the fellow's wound may have been in better shape than if the VA people were just doing dressing changes.

Posted by: Aviator at December 14, 2016 10:43 PM (/Nite)

119 Anyway, it's sad about Sears.

"Sears Transformed America. It Deserves to Die With Dignity." - Megan McArdle

http://tinyurl.com/gt8d4je
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:37 PM (u8kLQ)

Yeah, it is sad. I'm far too young to remember Sears' glory days (my dad told me that looking through the Sears Roebuck catalog during the Depression was like looking at pictures of the Taj Mahal.) Sears sold houses via it's catalog for God's sakes - houses which are still standing today.

I can remember we got most of our appliances from there - Kenmore stuff was considered solid and reliable and wouldn't break the bank.

But when I was in a local one right before it closed, everything looked cheap and sad and the store was almost empty.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 10:44 PM (P8951)

120 garrett, oops!! Sorry!! And thanks again!!!!!

I will send you my info tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:44 PM (u8kLQ)

121 SO WHO WAS CHICKEN?!

Posted by: The Chicken at December 14, 2016 10:44 PM (ir1zf)

122 86 Donna, Thanks, phewwwww, I just am beyond this. Sorry, I know the ont is supposed to be fun

I'm gonna go listen to Christmas music

Posted by: lousagirl at December 14, 2016 10:44 PM (9plvG)

123 Harvey's Bristol Cream

Never before have three words come together to scream "Classy"....

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 14, 2016 10:44 PM (oAY8z)

124 BTW, does anyone here know about how to set up a RAID?

As I understand it, it's neither that tough or expensive, if you know what you're doing.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:31 PM

i didn't know panty raids were still a thing. I never participated, but I knew some frat guys who did.

What RAID level you want?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2016 10:44 PM (DMUuz)

125 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE ALL IT SAYS IS CHICKEN!!!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBUGGERER at December 14, 2016 10:45 PM (ir1zf)

126 RAID!!??

*explodes*

Posted by: Cartoon cockroaches at December 14, 2016 10:45 PM (0mRoj)

127 But when I was in a local one right before it closed, everything looked cheap and sad and the store was almost empty.
Posted by: Donna di deplorable
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Breaks my heart. Age robs us of one thing after another.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:46 PM (ZO497)

128 Donna, yup.

There's stuff in McArdle's article stating that Sears is thinking of going hard-core DIY central, and tossing out everything else (particularly the clothes/fashion, home goods, etc). I think that might not be a horrible idea, especially if they keep selling quality major appliances. IMHO they could become a more down-to-earth version of Williams-Sonoma, or a higher-end version of Hobby Lobby crossed with Lowe's.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:46 PM (u8kLQ)

129 I live in a house that was built in the 1920's from a Sears & Roebuck catalogue kit

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 14, 2016 10:46 PM (oAY8z)

130 I also learned yesterday, that most of the best RAID systems, like RAID 5 and 10 (i.e., those that protect your data), *use up* half your HD space.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:43 PM (u8kLQ) fnord (u8kLQ)

(blinks)

(blinks again)

(squints)

Where did you think the copy of the data went?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 14, 2016 10:46 PM (wB8Tg)

131 53 So bars never close in Louisiana? I like it.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 14, 2016 10:26 PM (NbJXF)

Plus three words.

Drive. Through. Daquiris.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 14, 2016 10:46 PM (R5EqA)

132
Captain Rogers had been scheduled to ship out on the ill-fated voyage of USS Thresher, but another officer with more experience was assigned to the boat instead.

The Thirty-Fathom Grave

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734678/

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2016 10:46 PM (IqV8l)

133 RAID?!?!?!?!

Posted by: a bunch of scared ants at December 14, 2016 10:47 PM (ir1zf)

134 And that was a lot of content.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 14, 2016 10:47 PM (sp6+W)

135 Duncan, that's okay thanks ;-)

Mike, yep. My family on my Mom's side was always huge fans of Sears. My grandfather and dad always loved Craftsman, and everyone trusted Kenmore.

Losing Sears would emotionally feel for me like losing family. I know that must sound strange, but still.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:47 PM (u8kLQ)

136 i didn't know panty raids were still a thing. I never participated, but I knew some frat guys who did.

What RAID level you want?

IUD's. While they're wearing them.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2016 10:47 PM (ohWrE)

137 129 I live in a house that was built in the 1920's from a Sears & Roebuck catalogue kit
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 14, 2016 10:46 PM (oAY8z)

I read a reprint of a Sears catalog from that era. Quite fascinating. You could get pretty much anything, including guns.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2016 10:47 PM (0mRoj)

138 Posted by: lousagirl at December 14, 2016 10:44 PM (9plvG)

I find the libtard's wailing and bitching and sour grapes much more bearable than I would find their gloating and preening had they won.

This whining is only hurting them and their party and they're too stupid to see it.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 10:47 PM (P8951)

139 So bars never close in Louisiana? I like it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 14, 2016 10:26 PM (NbJXF)

Plus three words.

Drive. Through. Daquiris.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 14, 2016 10:46 PM (R5EqA)

Husband is in Baton Rouge on bidness tonight.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 14, 2016 10:47 PM (PY9jH)

140 Merovign, as I explained... of course the data needs to go somewhere. :-)

It's just a drain on resources, is all. Like when the IRS announces, congrats on the big raise, now we can tax you at the rate of 50%.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:48 PM (u8kLQ)

141 106 cthulhu, 4 drives, to hopefully speed up Final Cut Pro X.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:41 PM (u8kLQ)

I'm not sure RAID is the right tool for that. You might want to consider using an SSD as cache for a fast hard drive.

RAID stands for "redundant array of inexpensive drives" and is usually more for data integrity in the face of drive failure.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 10:48 PM (EzgxV)

142 ...
just as easy as fishin'
you can be a musician
...
Bubba Gump Band and shrimp

and God bless (Red Skelton)

Posted by: micky at December 14, 2016 10:49 PM (o5vMc)

143 No problemo.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2016 10:49 PM (PeNEi)

144
>>>Posted by: Cartoon cockroaches at December 14, 2016 10:45 PM (0mRoj)<<<
Damn. You cock(roach)suckers beat us to it.

Posted by: a bunch of scared ants at December 14, 2016 10:49 PM (ir1zf)

145 Merovign, data elves with magical data dust?

Anyway back under the covers and try to make it through the coughing and sore throat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 14, 2016 10:49 PM (uYZSX)

146 One thing about maggots is that they will really debride a wound, probably better than a human.

This is true:
http://www.monarchlabs.com/mdt

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 10:49 PM (6FqZa)

147 That chicken paper is hilarious and I have no idea why. I notice it uses 'chickens' once for variety.

Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2016 10:50 PM (TqmC9)

148 Part of the problem with Sears is in our mall was that the clothing sections were full of the most hideous shit imaginable. Most of it had the Kartrashian label and all of it was so expensive no one in their right mind would buy it. Cheap crap with high prices doesn't equal a good business plan. Especially when it's ugly cheap crap that no one wants.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 14, 2016 10:50 PM (yTnCT)

149 Fuck the VA.
That is all.
Posted by: SMFH at December 14, 2016 10:32

Well said. And be well.

T

Posted by: Farmer at December 14, 2016 10:50 PM (o/90i)

150 I also learned yesterday, that most of the best RAID systems, like RAID 5 and 10 (i.e., those that protect your data), *use up* half your HD space.

Which makes sense, the RAID's got to have a space to duplicate the data. Still, I imagine it's frustrating if you've spent a pretty penny on 40TB worth of hard drives, and find out you can only use 20 of it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:43 PM

TANSTAAFL.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2016 10:50 PM (DMUuz)

151 Never before have three words come together to scream "Classy"....
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah
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The Hathaway Man. Eye patch, impeccably dressed, Holding a Purdy side-by-side double.

Posted by: 60's magazine commercial at December 14, 2016 10:50 PM (ZO497)

152 Chicken chicken, chicken!!!!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2016 10:50 PM (rJUlF)

153 Never going to get tired of winning on Wednesday night - thanks for making it great again, Dave.

Posted by: lymond at December 14, 2016 10:50 PM (2mv+1)

154 sears big mistake was getting acquired by kmart.

should blow out of their crappy real estate in crappy markets and go internets.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:50 PM (cPsPa)

155 Husband is in Baton Rouge on bidness tonight.

"Gwine to run all night!
Gwine to run all day..."

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 10:51 PM (6FqZa)

156 >>I live in a house that was built in the 1920's from a Sears Roebuck catalogue kit

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah

My grandfather built one of those when he was a young man, lived in it to the day he died.

Posted by: Aviator at December 14, 2016 10:51 PM (/Nite)

157 I miss Sears.

Their automotive center up here was awesome. Killer deals on tires and routine maintenance shit.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2016 10:51 PM (PeNEi)

158 qdpsteve, RAID and speed are usually mutually exclusive.

If you want to fly, get SSD's. If you want good speed and protection against a single disk failure, get SSD's and build a RAID array with them.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 14, 2016 10:51 PM (IcT7t)

159
trump
trump
trump

deport
deport
deport

Posted by: Origional Jake at December 14, 2016 10:51 PM (jrFgU)

160 Duncanthrax, true. :-)

cthulhu, absolutely true. Am thinking it might be worth it just to wait another year or two for the SSD drives to get bigger and less expensive. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:52 PM (u8kLQ)

161 Blanco, thanks! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:52 PM (u8kLQ)

162 Especially when it's ugly cheap crap that no one wants.

But enough about me.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 14, 2016 10:53 PM (IcT7t)

163 117 I also learned yesterday, that most of the best RAID systems, like RAID 5 and 10 (i.e., those that protect your data), *use up* half your HD space.

Which makes sense, the RAID's got to have a space to duplicate the data. Still, I imagine it's frustrating if you've spent a pretty penny on 40TB worth of hard drives, and find out you can only use 20 of it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:43 PM (u8kLQ)

RAID 5 uses up one of the (minimum 4) disks. In block one of the four drives, you have data, data, data, checksum (actually the xor of the other three drives). In block two of the four drives, you have data, data, checksum, data. In block three, you have data, checksum, data, data -- and so on, with the checksum migrating from drive to drive.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 10:53 PM (EzgxV)

164 I wonder what Churchill would say now about both the U.S. & UK. He probably wouldn't recognize either one.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 14, 2016 10:53 PM (b9JGJ)

165 I read a reprint of a Sears catalog from that era. Quite fascinating. You could get pretty much anything, including guns.
Posted by: Insomniac
------------

Aside from brand names and mil surplus, they private labeled guns from a number of manufacturers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:53 PM (ZO497)

166 I have a replica copy of the 1909 Sears Roebuck catalog. It is really neat. You can buy newer reprints of that year but mine is vintage 1968. It is trying to fall to pieces. I have a much newer reprint of the 1905 Montgomery Ward catalog. Also very cool.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 14, 2016 10:54 PM (yTnCT)

167 so it seems like that blood spatter is a lot more important in forensics these days.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:54 PM (cPsPa)

168 The story about the 4chan guy made me cry (but not the Santa with the dying kid. Maybe it's because dying children are so common on FB, demanding likes). Anyway, the things that fathers do in the background are wonderful things, and we rarely have any idea, because the great dads don't demand attention or our full understanding of their efforts.

God bless them, every one.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 14, 2016 10:54 PM (tHwdc)

169 Carlson is a native Californian himself, but he could not refrain from laughter interviewing this dude.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 10:32 PM (P8951)

California residents != native Californians

Natives are - or were - pretty sensible, and conservative. After all, we elected Reagan twice.

It's all the shitheads from the Northeast and Upper Midwest (IL, MN) who have made the state a laughing stock. It's happening to Colorado right now. My fear is it will happen to Texas, as is beginning to happen in Austin already.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 10:54 PM (SRKgf)

170 Wednesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809089034261843968

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809089113022492672

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809089203774586880

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809089294354776064

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809089391964684288

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2016 10:54 PM (Ya7zs)

171 147 That chicken paper is hilarious and I have no idea why. I notice it uses 'chickens' once for variety.

Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2016 10:50 PM (TqmC9)

Is there an entropy formula for chicken I see?

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at December 14, 2016 10:54 PM (ixxO0)

172 cthulhu, I read that too. :-) It seemed to me RAID 5 provided the best bang for the buck.

But as others (and I think you) said, SSDs may be the best way to go. I know they're not going to get smaller.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:55 PM (u8kLQ)

173 119

Donna, when I went home last week to visit the family, I took Mom shopping (her vision is not good enough for driving), and we went to Sears at the local mall.

I remember my first visit to Sears when the mall opened in the early 1980s. It was the first really big department store I'd ever been in, and seeing all those goods for sale under one roof was amazing.

At the last visit, there were some parts of the store with no merchandise at all. I think I saw maybe three staffers. It's a matter of time before it's gone, I think.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2016 10:55 PM (rJUlF)

174 Churchill might recognise Russia, at least... Alexander III's Russia

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 10:55 PM (6FqZa)

175 I wonder what Churchill would say now about both the U.S. & UK. He probably wouldn't recognize either one.
Posted by: Octiparan at December 14, 2016 10:53 PM (b9JGJ)

he would give Trump a call and ask him to invade.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:55 PM (cPsPa)

176 Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:46 PM (u8kLQ)

I hope that's the case. Their appliances and tools were always their strong point. Their clothes were awful. I went shopping there - I wanted to support them because they supported the military - but I didn't see one outfit I wanted to buy. All of the women's clothes looked like something your 90 year old aunt Mabel would wear.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 10:55 PM (P8951)

177 cthulhu

Posted by: lousagirl at December 14, 2016 10:55 PM (9plvG)

178 More Wednesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809089530661834752

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809089628347265024

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809089716150816768

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809089808060530688

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2016 10:55 PM (Ya7zs)

179 RAID 5 uses up one of the (minimum 4) disks. In block one of the four drives, you have data, data, data, checksum (actually the xor of the other three drives). In block two of the four drives, you have data, data, checksum, data. In block three, you have data, checksum, data, data -- and so on, with the checksum migrating from drive to drive.
Posted by: cthulhu
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Chicken, checksum... a distinction without a difference.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:55 PM (ZO497)

180

Hilarious:

Just now on Fake News CNN an entire segment on
TRUMP TRANSITION: LEAST DIVERSE CABINET IN DECADES

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 14, 2016 10:55 PM (25wCj)

181 Anyway back under the covers and try to make it through the coughing and sore throat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 14, 2016 10:49 PM (uYZSX) fnord (uYZSX)

I hope you feel better soon!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 14, 2016 10:56 PM (wB8Tg)

182 I'll go out on a limb....
"I accidentally slept with a Trump supporter"....could be "Fake News"

I know....crazy talk

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 14, 2016 10:56 PM (oAY8z)

183 Chicken chicken chicken, ya'll.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 14, 2016 10:56 PM (ZfkJm)

184 >>>I wonder what Churchill would say now about both the U.S. UK. He probably wouldn't recognize either one.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 14, 2016 10:53 PM (b9JGJ)<<<

I'll just be glad when my bust can find it's way back to the Oval Office once that mohammedan imbecile is booted out the door.

**pours drink... then another... then another... lights cigar... pours another drink**

Posted by: zombie Winston Churchill at December 14, 2016 10:56 PM (ir1zf)

185 IUD's. While they're wearing them.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2016 10:47 PM

Lena's & Trigglypuff's coming up just for you, Horde Brother.

No, really, it's no trouble. Getting you two, because they're small.

If you ask nicely, the COBs might get you Yoko's.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2016 10:56 PM (DMUuz)

186 182 I'll go out on a limb....
"I accidentally slept with a Trump supporter"....could be "Fake News"

I know....crazy talk
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 14, 2016 10:56 PM (oAY8z)

It just sounds way too scripted.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2016 10:57 PM (0mRoj)

187 5, 6, or 10 RAID

big outlay. choose wisely

e.g. -- don't care about the build after it happens ... and using jenkins et al?
RAID6'll get ya a whole lot a storage. 10 is duh (something +1) and will always fail at times of something +2. That's for operational.

Archives? 10 or moreso for sure.

Posted by: micky at December 14, 2016 10:57 PM (o5vMc)

188 Donna, thanks!

Yeah, IMHO Sears needs to go big with changing their business model (which has been outdated for decades now), or just call it quits.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:57 PM (u8kLQ)

189 So, you start with a baseline chicken and then expand the parameters until the point of failure.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 14, 2016 10:57 PM (5Ha/8)

190 All that chicken and not one dumpling?

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at December 14, 2016 10:57 PM (ixxO0)

191 I have one remaining pair of good wool slacks purchased from Sears in the mid 90s. About '03 wanted a new pair and a shirt. It was crap all the clothes, never heard of viscous material until that day.

Posted by: gNewt at December 14, 2016 10:57 PM (MSiSP)

192 "I accidentally slept with a Trump supporter"

Does Elfwick have a sister?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 10:57 PM (6FqZa)

193 Chicken, checksum... a distinction without a difference.

At least you found a joke in there. I was going to do something with whether or not the checksum was migrating legally, but couldn't make it work.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 14, 2016 10:57 PM (IcT7t)

194 micky, thanks.

rickb223, I'm sticking with what's actually possible for me right now :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:58 PM (u8kLQ)

195 Of course, "vegetarian" comes from the Ojibway word meaning "clumsy hunter".
Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 10:33 PM

LMAO, I am so stealing that. OK?

Posted by: Farmer at December 14, 2016 10:58 PM (o/90i)

196 #169: Texas has more resistance than than that. Austin has been going that way for a long, long time, but it's far from being the largest city in that state.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 14, 2016 10:58 PM (0OG8D)

197
Their automotive center up here was awesome. Killer deals on tires and routine maintenance shit.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2016 10:51 PM (PeNEi)

Yeah, I always used to buy my tires from them.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 10:58 PM (P8951)

198 177 cthulhu

Posted by: lousagirl at December 14, 2016 10:55 PM (9plvG)

Howdy, lous!!! Glad I've got you smiling.....no idea why.....but, y'know -- being a profoundly silly person.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 10:59 PM (EzgxV)

199 It's all the shitheads from the Northeast and Upper Midwest (IL, MN) who have made the state a laughing stock. It's happening to Colorado right now. My fear is it will happen to Texas, as is beginning to happen in Austin already.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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It's already happened in NC. That's why we lost a great Republican governor. For the first time ever, less than half of the voters are NC natives. Fcuking frightening it is.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:59 PM (ZO497)

200 First credit card I ever had was Sears. Why? There was a tiny sears store in the martin marietta plant i worked in. Yeah, sears used to be awesome.

Posted by: lymond at December 14, 2016 10:59 PM (2mv+1)

201 Anyway, if this does turn out to be a troll, ghost of hallelujah gets the Storm-Sapphire Membership to AOSHQ, good for two barrel redemptions,

https://www.inverse.com/article/25127-gas-giant-storms-rubies-sapphires

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 11:00 PM (6FqZa)

202 Sears should have been Amazon. It's a natural evolution, from catalog to virtual shopping. Too bad nobody at Sears had that eureka moment.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 14, 2016 11:00 PM (yIhYo)

203 The only thing I don't get about the chicken bit is chicken chicken.

Posted by: eleven at December 14, 2016 11:00 PM (qUNWi)

204 Hmmmm, a cigar and scotch sounds good on this wintery night. Thanks for the idea PM zombie Winston Churchill.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 14, 2016 11:01 PM (b9JGJ)

205 Yeah, IMHO Sears needs to go big with changing their business model (which has been outdated for decades now), or just call it quits.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 10:57 PM (u8kLQ)

They might do better to try to leverage the memory of the Sears Catalog to launch an "online catalog" and become an Amazon competitor, and use their remaining storefronts as warehouse space for it, retaining only the hardware and appliance sections as traditional retail space. Good way to play to your strengths and your roots at the same time.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 14, 2016 11:01 PM (sp6+W)

206 Mike Hammer: to be fair, your new Dem governor did well to shut Nifong down when he was the state prosecutor. There's theories out that this helped him win.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 11:01 PM (6FqZa)

207 Weirddave, exactly!!

I said on FB yesterday, the *only* major difference between Sears' evolution and Amazon's IMHO, is that Amazon chose to publish *their* catalog on this newfangled contraption called the World Wide Web.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:01 PM (u8kLQ)

208 Sears should have been Amazon. It's a natural evolution, from catalog to virtual shopping. Too bad nobody at Sears had that eureka moment.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 14, 2016 11:00 PM (yIhYo)

=====

IMO, they should have been Walmart.

Posted by: Flyboy at December 14, 2016 11:02 PM (L+dg+)

209 I'll go out on a limb....
"I accidentally slept with a Trump supporter"....could be "Fake News"

I know....crazy talk
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 14, 2016 10:56 PM (oAY8z)

It just sounds way too scripted.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2016 10:57 PM (0mRoj)

It's just a watered down (or maybe lazier) version of "Trump Supporter Pulled Off My Hijab!!!!"

Same deal: needy, passive-aggressive, self-congratulating, superior.

All tied up in a nice, tidy little bundle

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 14, 2016 11:02 PM (oAY8z)

210 Cato, wow, good ideas. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:02 PM (u8kLQ)

211 I had a friend who worked in an office. Super introverted type. Anyway, apparently a secretary had a big crush on him and never told him. She gets a new job and on her last day at the company, she gets a little tipsy at her going away party and sits on the copier...puts the image and a note in his little 'In-Box', and leaves.

Every time he sent anything to the printer/copier for the next 2 years, it came back as a stack of 'fish' copies, where the fish was a giant simple hand-drawn fish. You know like kids make.

If he printed something 5 pages long. 5 pages of fish.

Not to mention the Pepperidge Farms Goldfish showing up, everywhere.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2016 11:02 PM (PeNEi)

212 Sears should have been Amazon. It's a natural evolution, from catalog to virtual shopping. Too bad nobody at Sears had that eureka moment.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 14, 2016 11:00 PM (yIhYo)

yeah but the time between the peak of the catalog business and the appearance of the internets was decades, sears was done by the time the internets became important. walmart would have been the logical internets winner.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 11:02 PM (cPsPa)

213 Drat. I don't know if andycanuck saw me. He doesn't make it to that many ONTs -- is there a better time he's usually around the blog?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 11:02 PM (EzgxV)

214
sears big mistake was getting acquired by kmart.

I'm surprised K-Mart still exists. Every one I see has an almost empty parking lot.

Stores come and go. No more W.T. Grant or Woolworth.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2016 11:02 PM (IqV8l)

215 They might do better to try to leverage the memory of the Sears Catalog
to launch an "online catalog" and become an Amazon competitor, and use
their remaining storefronts as warehouse space for it, retaining only
the hardware and appliance sections as traditional retail space. Good
way to play to your strengths and your roots at the same time.

Hey, there's an idea.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 14, 2016 11:03 PM (yIhYo)

216
With cluck-cluck here, a cluck-cluck there
Here a cluck, there a cluck

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:03 PM (ZO497)

217 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:59 PM (ZO497)

But the good news is that at least NC is now more diverse!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 14, 2016 11:03 PM (wCEn4)

218 Speaking of Colorado, our useless government is still wanking off over JonBenet Ramsey's corpse. Because LOOK AT MEEEE.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 11:03 PM (6FqZa)

219 My first job at 16 was at Sears in the paint dept. Commissioned sales, and during the summer pulled in a shit ton of money (for a 16 year old).

Remember getting the owner of a local Mex restaurant/bar a great deal for like 10 gallons of paint that were sitting in clearance cause someone brought it back after hating the color. He told me to stop into the bar and drinks would be on the house.

Posted by: a Moron wandering down memory lane at December 14, 2016 11:03 PM (ir1zf)

220 196 #169: Texas has more resistance than than that. Austin has been going that way for a long, long time, but it's far from being the largest city in that state.
Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 14, 2016 10:58 PM (0OG8D)

Thanks for cheering me up. Texas may be America's last redoubt. I just hope that they'll let in me and mine as refugees from the People's Republic of California.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:03 PM (SRKgf)

221 The Norks and Russians are laughing at us now. We get so worked up about their "hackers". The ChiComs are just wondering when it is their turn.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2016 11:04 PM (dnWSK)

222 sears is not even really sears it is kmart.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 11:04 PM (cPsPa)

223 >>Yeah, I always used to buy my tires from them.

18-24 Month No Interest Financing on Tires?

Sign me up.

And yes, I will take a 20 dollar In-Store Coupon for a new socket wrench! Thanks.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2016 11:04 PM (PeNEi)

224 I have to laugh how SHOCKED the CIA is over Russian attempts to influence the election when there is a long list of coups overthrowing elected leaders engineered by or supported by the CIA, most recently the 2014 Ukraine coup.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 14, 2016 11:05 PM (Ya7zs)

225 The only thing I don't get about the chicken bit is chicken chicken.

Simple really. It's derived from Chicken, which in turn comes from the union of chicken, chicken, chicken, and chicken. But it all falls under the larger umbrella of chicken.

Make any more sense now?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 14, 2016 11:05 PM (IcT7t)

226 Stores come and go. No more W.T. Grant or Woolworth.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2016 11:02 PM (IqV8l)

woolworth was smart to build the woolworth building. may be the best building in ny.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 11:05 PM (cPsPa)

227 So if I ask some liberal about the consequences of loose immigration policy I am a racist and a xenophobe.

If I mention that global warming hasn't, you know, warmed anything, I get called a denier.

If I provide facts, those facts get called Fake News.

It's as if my opinion doesn't matter.

So why should I give a rusty fuck about any of their concerns?

Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 11:06 PM (rB/gm)

228 I just spent 30 minutes talking my dear hubby through connecting to the Internet at the hotel he is staying at while he is on a business trip.

I do IT support for a living, so you'd THINK I'd be used to how clueless very smart people can be about simple stuff like this and how frustrated they get.

I am fighting the urge to have his home computer print the chicken paper with every print job for the next week or so.

I'm a very bad wife I'm afraid.

Posted by: Lily (formerly of Hot Air) now of AOSHQ at December 14, 2016 11:06 PM (vfC/C)

229 Could you get herpes from a Sears catalog?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2016 11:06 PM (dnWSK)

230 It's Chickens.

All the way down.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2016 11:06 PM (PeNEi)

231 214
sears big mistake was getting acquired by kmart.

I'm surprised K-Mart still exists. Every one I see has an almost empty parking lot.

Stores come and go. No more W.T. Grant or Woolworth.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2016 11:02 PM (IqV8l)

Or Montgomery Ward.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 14, 2016 11:06 PM (R5EqA)

232 Thanks for cheering me up. Texas may be America's last redoubt. I just hope that they'll let in me and mine as refugees from the People's Republic of California.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:03 PM (SRKgf)

****

Open up an account now in a Texas bank. Maybe they'll let you in come the end times if you have assets there...

Posted by: lymond at December 14, 2016 11:06 PM (2mv+1)

233 Mike Hammer: to be fair, your new Dem governor did well to shut Nifong down when he was the state prosecutor. There's theories out that this helped him win.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
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He won for ONE reason. ALL of the media went full-time HB2, and blamed McCrory for it. Over, and over, and over...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:06 PM (ZO497)

234 202 Sears should have been Amazon. It's a natural evolution, from catalog to virtual shopping. Too bad nobody at Sears had that eureka moment.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 14, 2016 11:00 PM (yIhYo)

I wonder if in 50 years, people will be saying, "Damn it's sad about what happened to Amazon. I remember when it was so great."

I can't imagine the emotions being the same, because Amazon is not a brick-and-mortar store and jumping from department to department online is not the same as holding a catalog in your hands.

I remember a game I used to play when I was a kid with store catalogs - OK, I can have one thing on this page - what would I get? I could easily spend an hour "dream buying" while looking through catalogs.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 11:06 PM (P8951)

235 Stores come and go. No more W.T. Grant or Woolworth.

Now there's a blast from the past. Ruffled some brain cobwebs.

Posted by: eleven at December 14, 2016 11:07 PM (qUNWi)

236 In Megan McArdle's article, it says that during Sears' latest earnings call, they reported losing $748 million in the last fiscal quarter.

As I said, sad. Changes have to be made.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:07 PM (u8kLQ)

237 kbdabear: MAD Magazine used to do some funny stuff back in the 1980s. One thing I remembered was a cartoon with a crowd of bearded guys in turbans cheering in the Tehran streets holding signs up, "THANK YOU CIA FOR ALL YOUR MEDDLING".

They might have been being a little sarcastic.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 11:07 PM (6FqZa)

238 I'm a very bad wife I'm afraid.

You didn't reach through the phone and strangle him.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 14, 2016 11:08 PM (IcT7t)

239 I dare say that nothing has been read on the outhouse crappers of America more than a Sears Roebuck Catalog.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2016 11:08 PM (PeNEi)

240 The only thing I don't get about the chicken bit is chicken chicken.

Simple really. It's derived from Chicken, which in turn comes from the union of chicken, chicken, chicken, and chicken. But it all falls under the larger umbrella of chicken.

Make any more sense now?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 14, 2016 11:05 PM

what about chicken^chicken/chicken?

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 14, 2016 11:08 PM (KCxzN)

241 "Could you get herpes from a Sears catalog?"

No, but you can go blind from a Victoria's Secret catalog. Or so I've been told

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 11:09 PM (6FqZa)

242 Now there's a blast from the past. Ruffled some brain cobwebs.
Posted by: eleven at December 14, 2016 11:07 PM (qUNWi)

(Jump to top of page)

====

Here's another one. Ben Franklin.

Posted by: Flyboy at December 14, 2016 11:09 PM (L+dg+)

243 235 Stores come and go. No more W.T. Grant or Woolworth.

Or TG&Y in my neck of the woods.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2016 11:09 PM (rJUlF)

244 I feel like chicken tonight,
like chicken tonight,
like chiken tonight...

Posted by: dude with access to the printer at December 14, 2016 11:09 PM (ir1zf)

245 chicken^chicken/chicken?

=Chicken ^ (chicken-1)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 11:09 PM (6FqZa)

246 >>what about chicken^chicken/chicken?

A Chicken divided amongst itself cannot stand!

Posted by: Zombie Lincoln at December 14, 2016 11:09 PM (PeNEi)

247 Flyboy, I've read there's still a few Ben Franklin stores around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Franklin_(company)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:10 PM (u8kLQ)

248 what about chicken^chicken/chicken?

That's theory, I'm only talking about in practice.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 14, 2016 11:10 PM (IcT7t)

249 Open up an account now in a Texas bank. Maybe they'll let you in come the end times if you have assets there...

Posted by: lymond at December 14, 2016 11:06 PM (2mv+1)

I was kinda hoping we could get in on an ideological rather than financial basis. We could buy our way into lots of places.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:10 PM (SRKgf)

250
HB2?

??

Posted by: Origional Jake at December 14, 2016 11:10 PM (jrFgU)

251 Eat mor chikin!

Posted by: The Chik-Fil-A Cows at December 14, 2016 11:10 PM (u8kLQ)

252 196 #169: Texas has more resistance than than that. Austin has been going that way for a long, long time, but it's far from being the largest city in that state.
Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 14, 2016 10:58 PM (0OG8D)

Spot on.

The large cities are overwhelmingly liberal or free stuff zones but they're surrounded by heavily conservative suburbs. Even Austin is surrounded by conservatives.

The Rio Grande Valley is poor and dependent upon government handouts.

If Trump really does follow through and crack down on illegal immigration, a lot of the blue areas may self-deport.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (nvMvs)

253
I remember a game I used to play when I was a kid with store catalogs - OK, I can have one thing on this page - what would I get?

Used to do that with the Lafayette and Allied catalogs.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (IqV8l)

254 so ebony williams, cute or peculiar?

was thinking cute but the more she is on television the more it seems peculiar is more accurate.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (cPsPa)

255 Thanks for cheering me up. Texas may be America's last redoubt. I just hope that they'll let in me and mine as refugees from the People's Republic of California.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

You're in. I'll vouch for you.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (CJRaf)

256 Montgomery Ward
Western Auto

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (eeTCA)

257 Amazing episode tonight at the grocery store.
I was almost done shopping, when I see a guy come in. We used to work in the same office, he was an appellate attorney with many improbable wins in the state Supreme Court. He's Jewish, VERY "defensive" about Israel sensitive to anti-Semitism, and was a total Democrat until 2000--he voted for GWBush twice, and then McCain in 2008, because the Dems became "too anti-Israel." Then in 2012...he voted for Obama, because Romney was "too pro-capitalist..."
So he asked me about the Trumpocalypse, I told him how happy I was, he started rambling on about dog whistles, DavidDuke, etc, admitted Hillary was in WallStreet's pocket but he voted for her anyway...Also admitted that, as a floridly public figure in NYCity for almost 50 years, with many media outlets against him, Trump has not had even 1 documented anti-Semitic comment. Ok, so I really should have cut it short, but I had to ask him: What do you think about these efforts to get the Trump electors to change their votes? "Well, of course that's just an exercise in futility." Well, what if they start offering each one $100,000 to change their vote and some started to change, what would you think about that?
"Well, if they can succeed in blocking Trump, that would be great!"
Oh, so you'd be willing to put aside the Constitution and accept people violating election law in order to see your candidate win? How is this different from fascism?
"Well, if it prevents a terrible person from getting elected, it's worth it."
So you believe your opinion outweighs the votes of millions of people, the Constitution, and the law?
"In this case, yes."
Woowwww...This is a guy who was literally a Constitutional lawyer, arguing cases at the highest level...Supposed to be all concerned about the fate of the Jews, and democracy...And he's willing to abandon all his political "principles," for a stupid political tantrum.
Amazing.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (+O9YB)

258 Chik-Fil-A now has chicken tortilla soup. Not bad.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (u8kLQ)

259 Great ONT. Loved the Scooby Doo bit

That 4 Chan about the kid whose Dad bought him games reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCtSgb-b7zg

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (kI9U5)

260 250
HB2?

??
Posted by: Origional Jake at December 14, 2016 11:10 PM (jrFgU)

Transgender bathroom bill.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (R5EqA)

261 E=m(chicken)^2

Posted by: zombie Einstein at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (ir1zf)

262 >>That's theory, I'm only talking about in practice.

Nobody in their right mind would argue against Kepler's Laws of Poultry Motion.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2016 11:12 PM (PeNEi)

263 241 "Could you get herpes from a Sears catalog?"

No, but you can go blind from a Victoria's Secret catalog. Or so I've been told

Yeah, but before vicky's there was only sears.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2016 11:12 PM (dnWSK)

264 =Chicken ^ (chicken-1)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 11:09 PM

Ah. The Spatchcock Penumbra...

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 14, 2016 11:12 PM (KCxzN)

265 Used to do that with the Lafayette and Allied catalogs.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
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and Olson Electronics.

Then, there was Heath.... *breaks down sobbing*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:13 PM (eeTCA)

266 202 Sears should have been Amazon. It's a natural evolution, from catalog to virtual shopping. Too bad nobody at Sears had that eureka moment.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 14, 2016 11:00 PM (yIhYo)

Organizations mostly don't do that. They are too hidebound to take advantage of such transformational eureka moments. Instead, they die and are replaced by organizations built from the beginning to do the new thing.

Posted by: Splunge at December 14, 2016 11:13 PM (iMxBJ)

267 241 "Could you get herpes from a Sears catalog?"

maybe if you were sharing it in the outhouse

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 11:13 PM (cPsPa)

268 263 241 "Could you get herpes from a Sears catalog?"

No, but you can go blind from a Victoria's Secret catalog. Or so I've been told

Yeah, but before vicky's there was only sears.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2016 11:12 PM (dnWSK)

National Geographic

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 14, 2016 11:13 PM (R5EqA)

269 47 21 well, it seems the chinese are less tolerant of jihadi culture than the europeans. sure he slapped her but then he got an epic brucette lee ass kicking.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 10:17 PM (cPsPa)

I don't know about the ISIS types, but the Gulf arabs are not fighters. After the first Gulf war, hubby was out and about, and saw two kuwaitis getting into an altercation after a car wreck. They each hit each other, and fell down, and didn't get back up. He stayed to watch to see what happened, and after half an hour, left because they were still on the ground.
Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at December 14, 2016 10:24 PM (VnCI9)

Must be soccer fans.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 14, 2016 11:13 PM (1JnAL)

270 You're in. I'll vouch for you.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (CJRaf)

Thanks!

I had my speech all ready: "Yeah, we're refugees from California, but we're loyal Americans, and hate socialism with the white hot heat of a thousand suns. So the question is, is there a place for me and mine in the Free Republic of Texas?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:13 PM (SRKgf)

271 When I was stationed at Homestead AFB from 91-92, I found that most bars closed at 3AM. Some closed at 5AM, and the Last Chance on US1 near Florida City on the way t Key Largo never closed.

Posted by: Bill R. at December 14, 2016 11:14 PM (jKUeC)

272 169---It's all the shitheads from the Northeast and Upper Midwest (IL, MN) who have made the state a laughing stock.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 10:54 PM (SRKgf)
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It's mass immigration from Meso-America, Asia, and the Middle East.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2016 11:14 PM (Nox3c)

273 I used to love, love, love, going through the Radio Shack catalogs every summer.

Would go over the same pages of tape recorders, stereo receivers and radios, over and over and over and over again. Never got tired of 'em.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:14 PM (u8kLQ)

274 I suspect that that "I accidentally slept with a Trump supporter" story is pure fiction.

Not because I'm a Trump supporter and can't get laid, but because she supposedly asked this guy all sorts of probing questions to make sure she didn't end up sleeping with a Trump supporter, and one of those "probing" questions was not, "So, who do you like for President?"

And when she stumbled across evidence that he might be a Trump supporter, and confronted him with it, his answers to her new line of questioning were the very sort of simplifications that leftists use to describe what they think is going through our heads. "Well, yeah, the Mexicans are taking all our jobs!", as an answer to "Hey, is this a pro-Trump book on your nightstand?"

It's just the sort of thing that the liberal readers of that amateurish blog would consider a really compelling horror story from which they just can't look away, like a train wreck. A Trump Train wreck. "Oh, noes! You let a Trumpkin inside you! Oh, the horror! There but for the grace of a nonexistent Supreme Being go I..."

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 14, 2016 11:14 PM (0OG8D)

275 If he printed something 5 pages long. 5 pages of fish.

Not to mention the Pepperidge Farms Goldfish showing up, everywhere.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2016 11:02 PM (PeNEi)

I don't see where this is going.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 14, 2016 11:15 PM (D2vc1)

276 254 so ebony williams, cute or peculiar?

Cute pictures on her site. I've never seen her on TV, though.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2016 11:15 PM (rJUlF)

277 They might do better to try to leverage the memory of the Sears Catalog to launch an "online catalog" and become an Amazon competitor, and use their remaining storefronts as warehouse space for it, retaining only the hardware and appliance sections as traditional retail space. Good way to play to your strengths and your roots at the same time.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 14, 2016 11:01 PM (sp6+W)

Great idea! Unfortunately, the url sears.com was already taken, apparently.

Reminds me of the joke that said archaeologists had discovered that the Iliad and Odyssey were not written by Homer, but by another poet of the same name.

Posted by: HTL at December 14, 2016 11:15 PM (QaAkH)

278 I was kinda hoping we could get in on an ideological rather than financial basis. We could buy our way into lots of places.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:10 PM (SRKgf)

Well, I think many will be claiming an ideological basis, true or not.

The thing is, what do you spend when you get there? I'm thinking that the Texas banks will have to do something to convert the existing deposits to the new currency.

Posted by: lymond at December 14, 2016 11:15 PM (2mv+1)

279 Thanks for cheering me up. Texas may be America's last redoubt. I just hope that they'll let in me and mine as refugees from the People's Republic of California.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:03 PM (SRKgf)

One of the few things I've done right in life is get here early.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 14, 2016 11:16 PM (D2vc1)

280 woolworth was smart to build the woolworth building. may be the best building in ny.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 11:05 PM (cPsPa)

Cold riveted girders with cores of pure selenium.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 14, 2016 11:16 PM (5Ha/8)

281 Amazing.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus
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Gross rationalization to justify ones action is a common pathology.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:17 PM (ZO497)

282 One of the few things I've done right in life is get here early.
Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 14, 2016 11:16 PM (D2vc1)

I'm just across the Red River, and my daughter's family and my sisters are all still in Texas. Hoping they'll be able to get me in if/when the SHTF.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2016 11:18 PM (rJUlF)

283 281 Gross rationalization to justify ones action is a common pathology.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:17 PM (ZO497)

And a true affinity for limited government and the rule of law is a rare quality. The world would be a much better place if that were not true.

Posted by: Splunge at December 14, 2016 11:18 PM (iMxBJ)

284 It's mass immigration from Meso-America, Asia, and the Middle East.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2016 11:14 PM (Nox3c)

No, not really, I'm afraid. I'm surrounded by lily white oh-so-white NPR listeners from the Northeast and Upper Midwest who cluck their tongues about those inbred conservatives as they sip their wine spritzers with their pinkies extended.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:18 PM (SRKgf)

285 excellent ONT

thanks

Posted by: thathalfricanplayafromthehimalayas - be water my friend at December 14, 2016 11:18 PM (R5HRU)

286 Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha!
Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha!
Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha!
Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha!
Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha!
Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha!
Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha!
Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha! Omaha!

Posted by: Peyton Manning, Jr. at December 14, 2016 11:19 PM (v5iqM)

287 Why did the checksum cross the Raid?

To get to the other array.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Lily (formerly of Hot Air) now of AOSHQ at December 14, 2016 11:19 PM (vfC/C)

288 I live in Benewah County! Lots of Moron types here!

Posted by: scrood at December 14, 2016 11:19 PM (BbkFr)

289 Cold riveted girders with cores of pure selenium.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 14, 2016 11:16 PM (5Ha/

<<<

I guess they just don't make them like they used to, huh?

Posted by: Dr. Peter Venkman at December 14, 2016 11:19 PM (ir1zf)

290 So, had an amazing conversation with a lovely senior lady today at Kohls. She had a Trump button on, and volunteered at the recount in Macomb County in MI. She didn't have problems with her ballots, but there were those that did, and there were several recounts of boxes.

It went like this: box says X ballots. Book of names has X names. Numbr of ballots and number of names must match. If there are off by ONE, the box is not eligible for recount.

She also said something that surprised me. Trump had lawyers there. Plural. I am guessing that he paid for an army of lawyers, and probably had some at every precinct in the state. Which surprised me.

Lovely, wonderful woman. Reminded me to pray on the 19th on this month; I reminded her to pray on the 20th during the inauguration.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 14, 2016 11:19 PM (LNgr4)

291 Crap. Bernard Fox, Dr. Bombay on Bewitched passed away at 89. R. I. P.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2016 11:20 PM (CJRaf)

292 Cold riveted girders with cores of pure selenium.
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 14, 2016 11:16 PM (5Ha/

is that a ghostbusters reference?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 11:20 PM (cPsPa)

293 257: cocaine is a powerful drug. so is lack of oxygen to the brain. talked to a guy at a christmas party last weekend, told me he couldn't sleep for two weeks after the election. i told the old hippey fuck, welcome to my world. i haven't slept for eight god damn years. take your ponytailed shit and tell somebody who gives a fuck. never saw him for the rest of the night.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2016 11:20 PM (KP5rU)

294
so ebony williams, cute or peculiar?

I first read that as cute or perpendicular.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2016 11:21 PM (IqV8l)

295
Sears reminds me of Social Security, or like Greece.

It's been obvious for decades that changes need to be made or else....this would happen.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 14, 2016 11:21 PM (25wCj)

296 It's just the sort of thing that the liberal readers of that amateurish blog would consider a really compelling horror story from which they just can't look away, like a train wreck. A Trump Train wreck. "Oh, noes! You let a Trumpkin inside you! Oh, the horror! There but for the grace of a nonexistent Supreme Being go I..."
Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 14, 2016 11:14 PM (0OG8D)

Plus she's basically using it to brag about how she can attract an attractive guy who's great in bed.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 14, 2016 11:21 PM (FYrz1)

297 All chicken and no chicken make chicken a dull chicken!
All chicken and no chicken make chicken a dull chicken!
All chicken and no chicken make chicken a dull chicken!
All chicken and no chicken make chicken a dull chicken!
All chicken and no chicken make chicken a dull chicken!
All chicken and no chicken make chicken a dull chicken!
All chicken and no chicken make chicken a dull chicken!
All chicken and no chicken make chicken a dull chicken!
All chicken and no chicken make chicken a dull chicken!

Posted by: Chick Torrance at December 14, 2016 11:21 PM (ir1zf)

298 so ebony williams, cute or peculiar?

I first read that as cute or perpendicular.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2016 11:21 PM (IqV8l)

heh

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 11:21 PM (cPsPa)

299
Col Crittendon is mort?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 14, 2016 11:21 PM (25wCj)

300 258 Chik-Fil-A now has chicken tortilla soup. Not bad.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (u8kLQ)

The chicken tortilla soup is much better than their regular chicken soup. Their regular chicken soup has so much flour and/or corn starch that it's globby.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 11:22 PM (EzgxV)

301 Before I continue reading the post, I just have to wonder aloud...

Was Chicken longer than Long Cat?

(Now I wonder aloud... surely I'm not the first to connect these!)

Posted by: mindful webworker with a non-political just bad haircut at December 14, 2016 11:22 PM (5a8XA)

302
I first read that as cute or perpendicular.

I first read this as acute or perpendicular.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 14, 2016 11:22 PM (25wCj)

303 That "I slept with a Trump supporter" article is really rather flattering to Trump supporting men. I mean, she said the guy was handsome, charming, a Marine, great in the sack....

Hey, lady, if you don't want him, you can go back to banging skinny pajama boys with ear gauges and "Coexist" tats. I'm sure there are conservative women out there who won't faint and cry at the sight of a Ann Coulter book on the nightstand.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 11:22 PM (P8951)

304 She also said something that surprised me. Trump had lawyers there. Plural. I am guessing that he paid for an army of lawyers, and probably had some at every precinct in the state. Which surprised me.

Lovely, wonderful woman. Reminded me to pray on the 19th on this month; I reminded her to pray on the 20th during the inauguration.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 14, 2016 11:19 PM (LNgr4)

Trump's not stupid. My guess is that they've quietly been preparing for this for weeks before the election.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 14, 2016 11:23 PM (FYrz1)

305 cthulhu, their regular soup *is* quite thick...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:23 PM (u8kLQ)

306 Last time I tried to do business with Sears was a phone order, it was sloppy, told the order taker no, cancel the order several times (she already had my info) but she wouldn't cancel. I filed a complaint with Card company. They ruled in my favor.
Big hassle. Hey, Sears, it's service, service, service.

If Northern Tool didn't have select clientele they could be next.

Posted by: gNewt at December 14, 2016 11:23 PM (MSiSP)

307 Somehow, this seems appropriate:

The Ammoniated Misunderstanding

(A duet to the tune of The Mexican Hat Dance)

by
Mason Williams

1st Person: Ammonia! Ammonia! Ammonia!
2nd Person: Get off! Get off! Get off!
1st Person: Ammonia! Ammonia! Ammonia!
2nd Person: Get off! Get off! Get off!
1st Person: Ammonia! Ammonia! Ammonia!
2nd Person: Get off! Get off! Get off!
1st Person: Ammonia! Ammonia! Ammonia!
2nd Person: Get off! Get off! Get off!
1st Person: I don't mean that I'm on you, I mean ammonia!
Ammonia!
2nd Person: I don't care what you mean, just get off! Get off!
Get off!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:23 PM (ZO497)

308 Cuter perpendicular.

Posted by: Chick Torrance at December 14, 2016 11:23 PM (ir1zf)

309 "The eyes of the chicken are upon yoooouuuu...."

Posted by: Chick Norris, Texas Ranger at December 14, 2016 11:23 PM (rJUlF)

310 272 169---It's all the shitheads from the Northeast and Upper Midwest (IL, MN) who have made the state a laughing stock.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 10:54 PM (SRKgf)
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It's mass immigration from Meso-America, Asia, and the Middle East.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2016 11:14 PM (Nox3c)

A third "inner passage"?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 11:23 PM (EzgxV)

311 Just five days until Donald Trump is finally confirmed as our next President!

Libs are throwing everything they can grab at the wall to see if something sticks in an effort to stop him, and they still have nothing to show for their efforts.

Still not sick of winning, here!

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 14, 2016 11:24 PM (0OG8D)

312 Maybe that "ravished, nay despoiled; by a Trump voter!" article was a Milo production

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 11:24 PM (6FqZa)

313 She also said something that surprised me. Trump had lawyers there. Plural. I am guessing that he paid for an army of lawyers, and probably had some at every precinct in the state. Which surprised me.

Lovely, wonderful woman. Reminded me to pray on the 19th on this month; I reminded her to pray on the 20th during the inauguration.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 14, 2016 11:19 PM (LNgr4)

Trump's not stupid. My guess is that they've quietly been preparing for this for weeks before the election.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 14, 2016 11:23 PM (FYrz1)

yeah, we may have been slow to warm to the post election lawfare but we eventually figured it out.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 11:24 PM (cPsPa)

314
Col Crittendon is mort?

And Malcolm Merriwether

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2016 11:24 PM (IqV8l)

315
Just five days until Donald Trump is finally confirmed as our next President!

Are you from the future?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 14, 2016 11:24 PM (25wCj)

316 How The US Government Legally Stole Millions From Kim Dotcom

This sort of thing has been going on since the "Zero Tolerance" junk from the 80s came into being. In that, the "legal fiction" was constructed that assets could be seized without any case against the owner since it was the assets that had committed the crime. It was insane, obviously, but that didn't stop it. This was back when the government could seize a boat because someone on it had a joint. The boat had committed the crime and was being, in essence, arrested.

I liked Reagan but that stuff was so far beyond the pale that it defied all reason.

So ... inanimate objects can be guilty of crimes but fetuses who are about to be born are less than inanimate. This is why our legal system is really nothing but a big joke. Lawyers, judges, lawmakers and everyone else associated with this bullshit should hang their heads in shame and get a one-way ticket to the Netherlands to have their less-than-fulfilling lives assisted to the exit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2016 11:24 PM (zc3Db)

317 "Well sir, we've run the tests and found the cause of your severe stomach pain. You have acute appendicitis."

"Nothing cute about it!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:24 PM (u8kLQ)

318 68 I'm convinced that there is some dark conspiracy, using subliminal suggestion to cause me to want a Berretta 92.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:31 PM (ZO497)

Picked up a pair of 96 Centurions for $250 each a few years back. Cop trade-ins. Had Trijicon relamp them for about $50 each. Son and I love them. Mrs IMG used it for CCW qual.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 14, 2016 11:25 PM (di1hb)

319 I'm just across the Red River, and my daughter's family and my sisters are all still in Texas. Hoping they'll be able to get me in if/when the SHTF.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2016 11:18 PM (rJUlF)

From what I hear around here sometimes, if you're in Oklahoma, you might be considered an illegal.

Might wanna show up sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 14, 2016 11:25 PM (D2vc1)

320 is clinton still paying her election team?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 14, 2016 11:25 PM (cPsPa)

321 there is still a Ben Franklin store near us. It is combined with an Ace Hardware, oddly enough.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 14, 2016 11:25 PM (yTnCT)

322 ...well, its not got much spam in it....

Posted by: Idle, Eric Idle at December 14, 2016 11:26 PM (o5vMc)

323 Cry "Havoc!" And let slip the chickens of war.

Posted by: Chick Antony at December 14, 2016 11:26 PM (ir1zf)

324 283
281 Gross rationalization to justify ones action is a common pathology.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:17 PM (ZO497)

And a true affinity for limited government and the rule of law is a
rare quality. The world would be a much better place if that were not
true.
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It's just so sad to see someone who really knows better, but doesn't give a fxck..like an old cop who finally starts taking bribes to pad his pension. He just really bought into all this lunatic stuff about Trump being under the sway of the Jew-haters...Oh, at 1 pt he told me that Stormfront "has four times as many subscribers as they did a year ago." Well, how many is that? "What difference does it make?" If it went from 100 to 400, I cdn't care less, it's irrelevant. "Well, it was more like from 200,000 to 800,000..." Really, where did you get that figure? "Well, I'm not sure of the number..." Look, I don't care about fake news stories like that one.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at December 14, 2016 11:26 PM (+O9YB)

325
is clinton still paying her election team?

If you're referring to the hosts on CNN, no, they do it for free.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 14, 2016 11:26 PM (25wCj)

326 282 One of the few things I've done right in life is get here early.
Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 14, 2016 11:16 PM (D2vc1)

I'm just across the Red River, and my daughter's family and my sisters are all still in Texas. Hoping they'll be able to get me in if/when the SHTF.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2016 11:18 PM (rJUlF)

I don't think we have to worry about Oklahoma. It's a fine state.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at December 14, 2016 11:26 PM (nvMvs)

327
how the fark did that happen?!?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 14, 2016 11:27 PM (25wCj)

328 279 Thanks for cheering me up. Texas may be America's last redoubt. I just hope that they'll let in me and mine as refugees from the People's Republic of California.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:03 PM (SRKgf)
One of the few things I've done right in life is get here early.
Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 14, 2016 11:16 PM (D2vc1)

The problem is I'm a loyal Californian, just as I'm a loyal American, and find one as hard to leave as the other, because it means severing emotional ties. I moved the earth to come back here to live out my days, not realizing how far the rot had progressed, and that combined with family ties keeps me here. For now.

My European-born wife wants to leave, seeing as I do the fiscal and social train wreck that is coming, but as yet I can't, for the reasons mentioned above. So I'm ambivalent, wanting and at the same time not wanting to leave, if that makes sense.

I'm off the hook right now, but when my last family member passes, there's going to be a tough decision ahead of me.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:27 PM (SRKgf)

329 305 cthulhu, their regular soup *is* quite thick...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:23 PM (u8kLQ)

Yeah, but inconsistently so. OTOH, their southwest salad is da bomb.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 11:27 PM (EzgxV)

330 Are you from the future?

Better hold him at bay while I go get ace....

Posted by: eleven at December 14, 2016 11:28 PM (qUNWi)

331 316 This sort of thing has been going on since the "Zero Tolerance" junk from the 80s came into being. In that, the "legal fiction" was constructed that assets could be seized without any case against the owner since it was the assets that had committed the crime. It was insane, obviously, but that didn't stop it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2016 11:24 PM (zc3Db)

The roots go back longer than that. The case United States v. 12 200-ft. Reels of Film is from 1973. It was an obscenity case, but still contains the absurdity of inanimate objects constituting one side of a legal proceeding. (IANAL)

Posted by: Splunge at December 14, 2016 11:28 PM (iMxBJ)

332 Great, Mis Hum was around and saw my thank you.
Didn't see much of last night's thread and that wasn't until this morning.
Bluebell was the only one I was who mentioned the song but enough for me that she liked it.

Hey little shyning man, you around?
I saw you mentioned building a cabinet for your D18.

Posted by: teej at December 14, 2016 11:28 PM (gJ3Vg)

333 That guy printing on his neighbors wifi printer had better watch out. I think he could find himself arrested for that prank. It is very funny, though. I wonder if they would arrest the printer, too, as an ~~accessory~~ peripheral? And the router.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2016 11:28 PM (zc3Db)

334 ONT ONT ONT

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 14, 2016 11:28 PM (WGxp4)

335 Might wanna show up sooner rather than later.
Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 14, 2016 11:25 PM (D2vc1)

If I could find a decent radio job, I'd be there already.

Posted by: Chick Norris, Texas Ranger at December 14, 2016 11:28 PM (rJUlF)

336 "Not because I'm a Trump supporter and can't get laid, but because she supposedly asked this guy all sorts of probing questions to make sure she didn't end up sleeping with a Trump supporter, and one of those "probing" questions was not, "So, who do you like for President?""

Yeah, exactly. She claims she was fooled because he was a pro choice atheist. Jeez, who even asks about that right off the bat when you meet someone?

"So - what do you do for a living? And do you believe in God?"

"I like Thai food too. And abortion. Your thoughts?"

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 11:28 PM (P8951)

337 257---Woowwww...This is a guy who was literally a Constitutional lawyer, arguing cases at the highest level...Supposed to be all concerned about the fate of the Jews, and democracy...And he's willing to abandon all his political "principles," for a stupid political tantrum.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (+O9YB)
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Yep. When the silly starlets and moonbats go bonkers, it's funny. When more normal people do it, it's downright scary.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2016 11:29 PM (Nox3c)

338 the chicken thread. i'm outta here. keep fuckin that chicken y'all.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2016 11:29 PM (KP5rU)

339 I'm off the hook right now, but when my last family member passes, there's going to be a tough decision ahead of me.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Take them with you?

easier said than done ...

Posted by: Adriane the Moving Company Critic ... at December 14, 2016 11:29 PM (AoK0a)

340 cthulhu, will have to try that :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:29 PM (u8kLQ)

341
Just five days until Donald Trump is finally confirmed as our next President!

Ahhhh, you mean until Congress certifies the electoral college. Yes, on the 19th.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 14, 2016 11:30 PM (25wCj)

342 Off, flightless avian sock!

Posted by: Captain Whitbread at December 14, 2016 11:30 PM (rJUlF)

343 five cents on the dollar, for fireworks...
no?
how 'bout three, Hillary?

Posted by: micky at December 14, 2016 11:30 PM (o5vMc)

344 The roots go back longer than that. The case United States v. 12 200-ft. Reels of Film is from 1973. It was an obscenity case, but still contains the absurdity of inanimate objects constituting one side of a legal proceeding. (IANAL)

Posted by: Splunge at December 14, 2016 11:28 PM (iMxBJ)

Thanks for the info. I'm a bit relieved to hear that Reagan's team didn't start it (though they should be ashamed of themselves for using it). SO ... it was another Nixon surprise gift?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2016 11:30 PM (zc3Db)

345 Just be sure to leave me out of this.

Posted by: zombie Chick Hearn at December 14, 2016 11:30 PM (ir1zf)

346 230 It's Chickens.

All the way down.

=====
No It Isn't

Posted by: Infinite number of turtles at December 14, 2016 11:31 PM (FeQVL)

347 Sheesh. Can't even spell my own name right tonight.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2016 11:31 PM (rJUlF)

348 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:27 PM (SRKgf)

I can imagine it's tough. California is a breathtakingly gorgeous state, with so much going for it.

Looking at what Ronald Reagan's old state is doing to itself is like watching a beautiful woman slash her own face with a razor.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 11:31 PM (P8951)

349 Posted by: eleven at December 14, 2016 11:00 PM (qUNWi)

Don't be chickenist.

Posted by: Chicken Little at December 14, 2016 11:32 PM (tHwdc)

350
Haven't you always been Captain Whitebeard??

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 14, 2016 11:32 PM (25wCj)

351 So, "unnamed US intelligence sources" have now accused Putin of PERSONALLY being involved in the US election "hack." This is via NBC "news."

Really? What are we trying to do, deliberately poke Putin so we can have an excuse to attack him/Russia on January 19th and leave Trump to pick up the pieces? Is that Bammys new plan?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 14, 2016 11:33 PM (LNgr4)

352 344 SO ... it was another Nixon surprise gift?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2016 11:30 PM (zc3Db)

You could look at it that way, I guess. How I look at it is this: all bureaucracies go sour over time, fold in on themselves, lose their purpose, start spending much of their energy on counterproductive inanities. It takes great force to resist that. So maybe just the legal system, the weight of precedent and all, finally reaching an inane final conclusion, and having no defense against it, because of a long chain of logic that ended up in a ridiculous place.

Posted by: Splunge at December 14, 2016 11:33 PM (iMxBJ)

353 Take them with you?

easier said than done ...

Posted by: Adriane the Moving Company Critic ... at December 14, 2016 11:29 PM (AoK0a)

Can't. It's my mother, who's very elderly, and in a nursing home, and effectively can't be moved.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:33 PM (SRKgf)

354 You can haf chickens all you want, dahlings. Just remember one thing.

No. Capons.

Posted by: Edna Mode at December 14, 2016 11:34 PM (ir1zf)

355 340 cthulhu, will have to try that :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:29 PM (u8kLQ)

It's best with about 1-1/2 packets of the salsa dressing, so ask for an extra.

Incidentally, two of my favorite places to get fast food are In-N-Out and Chik-fil-A. The first is all about being efficient, the second all about being nice.....and the funny thing is how much their methods, staff, and operations resemble each other.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 11:34 PM (EzgxV)

356 In was born in Texas.

I plan to claim my birthright citizenship.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 14, 2016 11:34 PM (yIhYo)

357 cthulhu, I've noticed those similarities too. Thanks for the salsa tip. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:35 PM (u8kLQ)

358 I'm surprised K-Mart still exists. Every one I see has an almost empty parking lot.

Stores come and go. No more W.T. Grant or Woolworth.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2016 11:02 PM (IqV8l)

K-Mart exists because it bought Sears.

Both exist, along with JC Penny's, because they own the real estate that their stores are located on which gives them great "value". That is how they are able to get financing to keep their doors open.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 14, 2016 11:35 PM (1JnAL)

359 Haven't you always been Captain Whitebeard??

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 14, 2016 11:32 PM (25wCj)

No, that's the name that North Pole dude goes by when he goes to Jamaica for the summer.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 14, 2016 11:36 PM (rJUlF)

360 "Well, I'm not sure of the number..." Look, I don't care about fake news stories like that one.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus
------------

There was a headline front-page story this week in the local rag. Resurgence of the Klan! It turns out that somewhere, a couple of hundred miles east of here, there was gathering of Kluxxers. They counted thirty, thirty! cars at the 'rally'. I figure fifteen of them belonged to Feds, SBI, etc.

So, 15-20 toothless guys.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:37 PM (ZO497)

361 I feel I've emerged from some sort of stasis state. I just finished devouring the post. *belch* It's like a Thanksgiving buffet, with videos.

Posted by: mindful webworker again finally briefly at December 14, 2016 11:37 PM (5a8XA)

362
Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 10:33 PM

LMAO, I am so stealing that. OK?
Posted by: Farmer at December 14, 2016 10:58 PM (o/90i)

Farmer, go for it. I get laughs with that line every week. Well, mostly from myself, but still, laughs.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 11:37 PM (rB/gm)

363 97 Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times

====

I'm not sure whether we're at Stage III or IV.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2016 10:38 PM (EZebt)

When I cleaned up my own act things got much better. It's Scriptural: Nineveh, I looked it up.

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 14, 2016 11:37 PM (PHcLa)

364 #296: Oh, yeah, good point, Alex! That story was definitely orchestrated to present the author (authrix? authress?) in the best possible light. Discerning, but not judgmental. Hot, but not unapproachable.

Hey, come to think of it... this also ties in nicely to liberal chicks telling everyone, "Hey! Don't sleep with a Trump supporter. You should totally put that on your Tinder profile, that Trumpkins need not apply. Don't let an actual Trumpkin put his dick in you, like I did, because I'm an idiot. Sad!"

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 14, 2016 11:37 PM (0OG8D)

365 unnamed US intelligence sources

"Why yes, dear; I am a secret agent, but I can't tell you too much, or else I shall have to kill you. Freshen up your Cosmo, sweetie?"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 11:38 PM (6FqZa)

366 You could look at it that way, I guess. How I look at it is this: all bureaucracies go sour over time, fold in on themselves, lose their purpose, start spending much of their energy on counterproductive inanities. It takes great force to resist that. So maybe just the legal system, the weight of precedent and all, finally reaching an inane final conclusion, and having no defense against it, because of a long chain of logic that ended up in a ridiculous place.

Posted by: Splunge at December 14, 2016 11:33 PM (iMxBJ)

Sure. All complex systems fall apart and die. But that will never be any excuse for anyone to try and make inanimate objects parties in a legal case. And there is less excuse for any judge to allow that (let alone not sanctioning the lawyers who forwarded such lunacy).

There's the natural rise in entropy of every legal system ... but this something altogether different.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2016 11:38 PM (zc3Db)

367 Whether or not Nineveh "cleaned up its act", the Medes still schlonged the place good and hard.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2016 11:39 PM (6FqZa)

368 You could look at it that way, I guess. How I look at it is this: all bureaucracies go sour over time, fold in on themselves, lose their purpose, start spending much of their energy on counterproductive inanities.
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It seems that businesses have a lifetime. They've got to be agile to stay alive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:39 PM (ZO497)

369 351 So, "unnamed US intelligence sources" have now accused Putin of PERSONALLY being involved in the US election "hack." This is via NBC "news."

Really? What are we trying to do, deliberately poke Putin so we can have an excuse to attack him/Russia on January 19th and leave Trump to pick up the pieces? Is that Bammys new plan?

Posted by: shibumi

I said this in the previous thread. Putin is ex KGB. He won't be anywhere near this. That is why he has underlings. "unnamed US intelligence sources" = Shit NBC overheard in a bar after 8 martinis. They're just making stuff up now.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 14, 2016 11:39 PM (pY+s4)

370 Norman Lear create Good Times.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2016 11:40 PM (IqV8l)

371 BTW, remember that Reagan was from Illinois originally and only ended up in California because he was doing Cubs broadcasts from what was then their spring training ballpark.

My uncle was stationed there during WWII, fell in love with California and settled there after the war. (Amusingly enough, after he became a widower, he met his second wife in a bar in San Jose. He was on the next barstool and overheard her say "Kinninnick Avenue." He said, "You have to be from the south side of Milwaukee, I grew up there." It turned out they had grown up less than a half a mile away from each other without ever meeting in Wisconsin and both had moved to Cali in the same year.)

Many of the Silicon valley pioneers - Robert Noyce, for instance - came from the Midwest.

California always got a lot of people from the midwest and east coast escaping the cold. It looks like only in recent decades did that migration become moonbatty. I wonder if it wasn't the influx of hippies in 1967 or so that started that trend.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 11:42 PM (P8951)

372 I'm not sure whether we're at Stage III or IV.

It sure isn't stage III. Got all the weak men we can handle.

Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2016 11:42 PM (7H/2n)

373 Whether or not Nineveh "cleaned up its act", the Medes still schlonged the place good and hard.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
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I never really had much hope for them.

Posted by: Jonah at December 14, 2016 11:42 PM (ZO497)

374 I'm just across the Red River, and my daughter's family and my sisters are all still in Texas. Hoping they'll be able to get me in if/when the SHTF.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread

Get go the Bonham/Ivanhoe area & we'll get you across.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2016 11:43 PM (CJRaf)

375 Looking at what Ronald Reagan's old state is doing to itself is like watching a beautiful woman slash her own face with a razor.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 11:31 PM (P8951)

Perfect simile.

Further complication is that I grew up, and so came to view this as the norm. When I first moved to the Northeast, I couldn't believe how much it sucked, not just culturally but particularly meteorologically. I just wasn't accustomed to having to take the weather into account.

For example, I play on locally-recruited baseball teams in various tournaments across the country, and we kick the crap out of most teams, winning any number of national championships in our age group. One reason is that we practice 52 weeks/year. We're always in shape. We could play competitively tomorrow, perfectly well. And because I grew up here, I view that as the norm, and thus the climactic conditions anywhere else seem like huge impositions.

So you can see why I'm bitter about the liberal infestation here in my beloved state.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:43 PM (SRKgf)

376
Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Chicken Chicken

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 14, 2016 11:44 PM (LuZz8)

377 373 Whether or not Nineveh "cleaned up its act", the Medes still schlonged the place good and hard.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
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I never really had much hope for them.
Posted by: Jonah at December 14, 2016 11:42 PM (ZO497)

Can't believe you're still butthurt over Nineveh.

Posted by: God at December 14, 2016 11:44 PM (0mRoj)

378 Didn't Lear also do All in the Family?

Posted by: teej at December 14, 2016 11:44 PM (gJ3Vg)

379
This week there's Thursday night football and Saturday night football....that no one will watch.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 14, 2016 11:45 PM (25wCj)

380 Posted by: Puddleglum at December 14, 2016 11:39 PM (pY+s4)

They couldn't handle 8 martinis
Maybe 3 glasses of merlot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2016 11:45 PM (voOPb)

381 239 I dare say that nothing has been read on the outhouse crappers of America more than a Sears Roebuck Catalog.

I was google before it was cool.
I was all up Americas ass and going through their shit.

And they welcomed me.

Posted by: THE Sears Catalog at December 14, 2016 11:45 PM (UdULa)

382 Didn't Lear also do All in the Family?

Norman or King?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2016 11:45 PM (CJRaf)

383 Born in San Diego, pretty much raised in Southern CA., with some Bay Area and Idaho Falls, ID years as but a wee tyke.

Left San Diego in '76, when I went active duty with the USAF. Writing was on the wall, even then. Solidly traditional pro-military conservative Republican town was already turning on it's Navy establishments, wanting to devour Miramar NAS, push the 32nd. St. Naval Depot "somewhere else", and close the Naval Training Center and Marine MCRD.

Well, they trimmed Miramar down, from Fightertown USA, the Pac Fleet's fighter/attack jet primary workup and readiness base, to a Marine helicopter station.

And they conned Congress into putting the Naval Training Center onto the BARC list of places to be closed, and so it was.

As I understand it, it's now some f*kd up mix of Section 8 housing, other buildings given to United Way type of SJW crap, and Gawd knows what else.

Camp Elliot? Is it still there?

All that, just in one California county.

Do they still allow one to grill a steak over charcoal in CA?

I still love it out there, but can't risk the multiple jail terms I'd incur for bitch slapping some political appratchick whut tried to tell me not to do this or have to do that.

Texas is still a free State. Will be, too. If we can find a way to prohibit the further influx of fuzz brained hippie slacktards.

Real Americans though, are always welcome here.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 14, 2016 11:46 PM (v5iqM)

384 311 Just five days until Donald Trump is finally confirmed as our next President!

Libs are throwing everything they can grab at the wall to see if something sticks in an effort to stop him, and they still have nothing to show for their efforts.

Still not sick of winning, here!
Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 14, 2016 11:24 PM (0OG8D)

Until 1/20/17 when Trump puts his hand on the Bible and takes the oath is when I will exhale.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 14, 2016 11:47 PM (1JnAL)

385 “Pigeons on the grass alas.
Pigeons on the grass alas.
Short longer grass short longer longer shorter yellow grass.
Pigeons large pigeons on the shorter longer yellow grass alas pigeons on the grass.”

Posted by: Gertrude Stein at December 14, 2016 11:48 PM (ZO497)

386 garrett, just sent you my info.

Let me know if there's anything you want, I have a little bit of rare stuff on CD.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:49 PM (u8kLQ)

387 284
No, not really, I'm afraid. I'm surrounded by lily white oh-so-white NPR listeners from the Northeast and Upper Midwest who cluck their tongues about those inbred conservatives as they sip their wine spritzers with their pinkies extended.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:18 PM (SRKgf)
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But hasn't California always had a passel of moonbats, from limousine 'liberals' to hippies and revolutionary goons? It's just that, back in Reagan's day, there was a passel of staunch conservatives to balance out or even defeat the Left.

Where did those conservatives go? Did they mysteriously disappear and thus open the door to the full triumph of leftism? Or is it that mass immigration tilted the balance of power to the Left and then solidified it?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2016 11:49 PM (Nox3c)

388 With all the talk of moving this state or that state, I was thinking how many here would move back to their home state of country if you had the opportunity? All things being equal of course.

Me. I'd be back in Montana in a flash. Maybe New Hampshire in a pinch since I did enjoy living there for a few years. Young grandkids are keeping me and the Mrs Octiparan here in Oregon.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 14, 2016 11:49 PM (b9JGJ)

389 Jim, I learned to grill with charcoal this past summer.

Yes, still legal in CA. At least for now.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:50 PM (u8kLQ)

390 California always got a lot of people from the midwest and east coast escaping the cold. It looks like only in recent decades did that migration become moonbatty. I wonder if it wasn't the influx of hippies in 1967 or so that started that trend.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 11:42 PM (P8951)

Absolutely correct. It was that "summer of love" and that faggot Scott McKenzie's poxy song "San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)" that caused every leftist retard in the country to want to come here.

Reagan was governor then, but the next thing we knew we had Moonbeam Brown as governor, thanks to leftist shitheads and the name recognition he had from his father (who'd been only the second Democrat governor in the 20th century).

It went downhill rapidly from there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:50 PM (SRKgf)

391
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 14, 2016 11:19 PM (LNgr4)

I read somewhere else a lib whinging about the "army" of Trump lawyers challenging ballots. Like they have no right to be there to make sure these people won't do what they surely want to do.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 14, 2016 11:51 PM (R5EqA)

392 With all the talk of moving this state or that state, I was thinking how many here would move back to their home state of country if you had the opportunity? All things being equal of course.

Nah. Missouri has nothing to offer that Texas doesn't.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2016 11:52 PM (CJRaf)

393 Google Maps Is Tracking Your Every Move, And There's Even A Website To Prove It
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A couple of weeks ago, I followed a link to a YouTube video. It required a sign-in to view. Since Google owns YouTube, I input the Google login info that I haven't used in a very long time. I got routed to a web page that informed me that Google didn't recognize the computer that I was logging in from, and I would need to input a code provided by Google in order to complete my login process.

Nothing particularly unusual about that, as I see it frequently enough.

Usually, though, one of the options available is to have the code sent to you via e-mail. That was *not* an option. The only option available was to have Google call you and provide you with the code using the phone number that you provided.

I got a bit creeped out by that, and decided that the video in question wasn't that important after all.

And of course a few minutes later I got a "helpful" security alert in my e-mail informing me that some miscreant had attempted to log in using my information.

Posted by: junior at December 14, 2016 11:52 PM (ff27+)

394 I also learned yesterday, that most of the best RAID systems... *use up* half your HD space. ...

* slaps forehead *

* types *

* deletes *

Posted by: mindful webworker mindful webworker at December 14, 2016 11:52 PM (5a8XA)

395 389 Jim, I learned to grill with charcoal this past summer.

Yes, still legal in CA. At least for now.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:50 PM (u8kLQ)

However, if you go into a Home Depot in some other state, half the stuff in the BBQ section is stenciled "Not For Sale in California" (as well as a bunch of paint, virtually everything that has a gas engine, and quite a few garden treatments or fertilizers).

Posted by: cthulhu at December 14, 2016 11:53 PM (EzgxV)

396 mindful webworker, I know I know. I'm a dumpkopf. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:53 PM (u8kLQ)

397 With all the talk of moving this state or that state, I was thinking how many here would move back to their home state of country if you had the opportunity? All things being equal of course.
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I AM there. We've been here for generations. It's the assholes from the NE and northern midwest moving here that are destroying the state.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:53 PM (ZO497)

398 cthulhu, wow, gotta check that out next time I'm in Laughlin. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:54 PM (u8kLQ)

399 >>>Jim, I learned to grill with charcoal this past summer.

Yes, still legal in CA. At least for now.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:50 PM (u8kLQ)<<<

Save us, QDP-Kenobi, you're our only hope!

Posted by: chemjeff's steaks at December 14, 2016 11:54 PM (ir1zf)

400 @390
Absolutely correct. It was that "summer of love" and that faggot Scott McKenzie's poxy song "San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)" that caused every leftist retard in the country to want to come here.

Reagan was governor then, but the next thing we knew we had Moonbeam Brown as governor, thanks to leftist shitheads and the name recognition he had from his father (who'd been only the second Democrat governor in the 20th century).

It went downhill rapidly from there.
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I suspect the collapse of the defense industry at the end of the Cold War accelerated things. California had (and still has, actually) a lot of companies associated with the defense industry, and a lot of people lost their jobs.

Posted by: junior at December 14, 2016 11:54 PM (ff27+)

401 chemjeff, no problemo. Ribeye or filet? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:55 PM (u8kLQ)

402 Older sis lives in Texas.
Don't see myself leaving Kansas but life has thrown me a curve in the past.
Couple of damn nasty sliders too so you never know.

Posted by: teej at December 14, 2016 11:55 PM (gJ3Vg)

403 It seems that businesses have a lifetime. They've got to be agile to stay alive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:39 PM (ZO497)

Now look what you have done...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY

Posted by: somejoe at December 14, 2016 11:55 PM (UdULa)

404 388 With all the talk of moving this state or that state, I was thinking how many here would move back to their home state of country if you had the opportunity? All things being equal of course."

I am in my home state - my home county as a matter of fact, after 13 years living in Florida and the DC area.

I moved back to be with my family. We are close-knit.
But the winters are getting harder to take as I'm getting older. After my fall and knee surgery this summer I am terrified of slipping on the ice - and I'm only in my 50's. I can't imagine what it will be like to brave the elements when I'm 70, if I make it to that age.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 11:55 PM (P8951)

405 >>>Me. I'd be back in Montana in a flash.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 14, 2016 11:49 PM (b9JGJ)<<<

I would have liked to have seen Montana.

Posted by: zombie Vasily Borodin at December 14, 2016 11:56 PM (ir1zf)

406 But hasn't California always had a passel of moonbats, from limousine 'liberals' to hippies and revolutionary goons? It's just that, back in Reagan's day, there was a passel of staunch conservatives to balance out or even defeat the Left.

Where did those conservatives go? Did they mysteriously disappear and thus open the door to the full triumph of leftism? Or is it that mass immigration tilted the balance of power to the Left and then solidified it?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2016 11:49 PM (Nox3c)

No. Absolutely not. You're thinking of modern California. Back in the day, California was more like Montana or Wyoming is now, a backwater that was largely ignored by the rest of the country.

At a somewhat later time, California was like Arizona was a few years ago, staunchly conservative, in fact more conservative than Texas is now.

What happened? Where did the conservatives go? Many died off. The rest were swamped by the tidal wave of liberal immigration from the Northeast and Upper Midwest, who showed up, and thought it was great, but just needed governmental programs to make it even better.

The same process is happening today in Colorado and, a bit further behind, in Texas.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:56 PM (SRKgf)

407 Georgia's Secretary of State has now confirmed that its election systems were the subject of cyberattacks on 10 separate occasions with each attack originating from a Department of Homeland Security IP address.

Terrorism?

Posted by: gNewt at December 14, 2016 11:58 PM (MSiSP)

408 Sorry, I wasn't clear. At one time, California did NOT have hippies or limousine liberals, any more than Wyoming does today. California was like flyover country is now, a place where the hip wouldn't be caught dead. That came later.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 14, 2016 11:58 PM (SRKgf)

409 >>>chemjeff, no problemo. Ribeye or filet? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 14, 2016 11:55 PM (u8kLQ)<<<

We're not chemjeff. We're just hoping someone can spare us from being turned to ash.

Posted by: chemjeff's steaks at December 14, 2016 11:58 PM (ir1zf)

410 Oh, yeah, it's from Zero Hedge.

Posted by: gNewt at December 14, 2016 11:59 PM (MSiSP)

411 Where did those conservatives go? Did they mysteriously disappear and thus open the door to the full triumph of leftism? Or is it that mass immigration tilted the balance of power to the Left and then solidified it?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2016 11:49 PM (Nox3c) fnord (Nox3c)

Some aged out (that's "died"), some moved out, a lot of lefties moved in (particularly to SF and LA), massive immigration of left-leaning immigrants who associate the American left with their legendary socialist heroes (or just like the goodies).

In particular a lot of gun owners left (don't know the real percentage) because of regulations and harassment. A lot of business owners left for the same reason (often different regulations).

Rising expenses drove out a number of people not wealthy and not on assistance or subsidies of some sort.

There are several other "political microclimates" that have made populations unwelcome in one way or the other. Communities outside the "big three" (or four) have faced bankruptcies and been treated as nuisances by the state - and that's where the non-left people generally live(d).

Someone should write a book.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 14, 2016 11:59 PM (wB8Tg)

412 @407 Georgia's Secretary of State has now confirmed that its election systems were the subject of cyberattacks on 10 separate occasions with each attack originating from a Department of Homeland Security IP address.
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So here's a question for you.

If you're going to launch a cyberattack on a foreign nation, who is STUPID enough to do so from an IP that can be identified as belonging to you?

/facepalm

Posted by: junior at December 14, 2016 11:59 PM (ff27+)

413 #370: Ha! Norman Lear... you know what cracks me up about that guy?

The Declaration of Independence. He owns one of the original signed copies of it.

See, when the Declaration was written up and signed, the Founding Fathers made several copies, and sent them out in different directions so that they wouldn't all be intercepted by the British authorities.

Norman Lear paid a fortune to buy one of those copies.

Why is this so funny to me? Look at how Lear made his fortune... by adapting British sitcoms for the American market. "All In The Family" was based on the British sitcom "Man About The House". "Sanford And Son" was based on the British sitcom "Steptoe and Son".

After decades of making his money off the British, he went to great expense to buy one of those original signed copies of the Declaration of Independence.

It was all his way of saying, as a man in his seventies, "Screw you, Dad! I'm a man, now!"

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 14, 2016 11:59 PM (0OG8D)

414 chemjeff's steaks, sure. Just mail your steaks to... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 12:00 AM (u8kLQ)

415 >>But the winters are getting harder to take as I'm
getting older. After my fall and knee surgery this summer I am
terrified of slipping on the ice - and I'm only in my 50's. I can't
imagine what it will be like to brave the elements when I'm 70, if I
make it to that age.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersandsand so there

After spending most of my in the North, I'll be good if I never see another snowflake. I may need to bump up the heat tonight - supposed to get down to 45.

Posted by: Aviator at December 15, 2016 12:00 AM (/Nite)

416 >>>Georgia's Secretary of State has now confirmed that its election systems were the subject of cyberattacks on 10 separate occasions with each attack originating from a Department of Homeland Security IP address.
Posted by: gNewt at December 14, 2016 11:58 PM (MSiSP)<<<

The hack is coming from inside the Home...land Security Dept.

Posted by: voice of warning, on the phone at December 15, 2016 12:01 AM (ir1zf)

417 369 351 So, "unnamed US intelligence sources" have now accused Putin of PERSONALLY being involved in the US election "hack." This is via NBC "news."

Really? What are we trying to do, deliberately poke Putin so we can have an excuse to attack him/Russia on January 19th and leave Trump to pick up the pieces? Is that Bammys new plan?

Posted by: shibumi

I said this in the previous thread. Putin is ex KGB. He won't be anywhere near this. That is why he has underlings. "unnamed US intelligence sources" = Shit NBC overheard in a bar after 8 martinis. They're just making stuff up now.
Posted by: Puddleglum

Beyond that, if we had such good Intel on high level Russian decision making, we sure as hell wouldn't be leaking in to NBC

Posted by: Jean at December 15, 2016 12:01 AM (2RVmA)

418 I suspect the collapse of the defense industry at the end of the Cold War accelerated things. California had (and still has, actually) a lot of companies associated with the defense industry, and a lot of people lost their jobs.

Posted by: junior at December 14, 2016 11:54 PM (ff27+)

That hurt, to be sure, but I think the big factor was that moving to California became chic.

I (sorta) joked with my wife that anyplace that is featured in Money magazines "10 best places to live" is automatically off the list, and that if the residents there had any sense, they'd shoot the fucking reporter before he filed his story, bury him, and deny ever having seen him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:02 AM (SRKgf)

419 Georgia was fighting DHS on election security at the time. ...

Posted by: Jean at December 15, 2016 12:02 AM (2RVmA)

420 410 Oh, yeah, it's from Zero Hedge.

Posted by: gNewt at December 14, 2016 11:59 PM (MSiSP)

It ain't here: http://sos.ga.gov/index.php/general/news

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 12:02 AM (EzgxV)

421 @405, Ha! Not too many Soviet subs would make it to the Yellowstone river.

One of my great great grandfathers used to haul freight by wagon from Ft. Benton on the Missouri river to the front range homesteads in the early 1880s. Ft Benton was the furthest point on the Missouri where paddle wheelers could go.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 15, 2016 12:03 AM (b9JGJ)

422 PW, actually All In The Family was based on "'Til Death Do We Part."

I believe that Three's Company was based on "Man About The House."

And, at least Norman Lear was smart enough to acknowledge/understand, Meathead was way too strident a character to be truly likeable; Archie was far more someone the audience could root for.

Lear has admitted many times that in the household he grew up in, *he himself* was Meathead.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 12:03 AM (u8kLQ)

423 406---You're thinking of modern California.
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Well, yes. I'm thinking about the changes between, say, 1980 and 2010, which have been enormous.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 15, 2016 12:03 AM (Nox3c)

424 So here's a question for you.

If you're going to launch a cyberattack on a foreign nation, who is STUPID enough to do so from an IP that can be identified as belonging to you?

/facepalm
Posted by: junior

I give you, The United States Department of Homeland Security! Your welcome. Also, Georgia hasn't been a foreign country since at least 1865.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 15, 2016 12:03 AM (pY+s4)

425 I suspect the collapse of the defense industry at the end of the Cold War accelerated things. California had (and still has, actually) a lot of companies associated with the defense industry, and a lot of people lost their jobs.

Posted by: junior at December 14, 2016 11:54 PM (ff27+) fnord (ff27+)

That also (and the Summer of Migration as mentioned above).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 12:04 AM (wB8Tg)

426 Well, I have to be up at 4:30 tomorrow. Good night, horde.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 15, 2016 12:04 AM (P8951)

427 This whole hacking story is back during worse than the fake news and recount did. The dnc is fucking toast. Their whole playbook is fucked. The racist sexist bigot homophobe line of attack is over. Good luck shit bags.

Posted by: James the worst of the deplorable at December 15, 2016 12:04 AM (jxw6R)

428 >>>Georgia was fighting DHS on election security at the time. ...

Posted by: Jean at December 15, 2016 12:02 AM (2RVmA)<<<

I tried to warn everyone.

**picks up fiddle, starts playing**

Posted by: Charlie Daniels at December 15, 2016 12:05 AM (ir1zf)

429 Well, yes. I'm thinking about the changes between, say, 1980 and 2010, which have been enormous.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 15, 2016 12:03 AM (Nox3c)

California in 2010 would be unrecognizable to those from California in 1970.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:06 AM (SRKgf)

430 One of my great great grandfathers used to haul freight by wagon from Ft. Benton on the Missouri river to the front range homesteads in the early 1880s. Ft Benton was the furthest point on the Missouri where paddle wheelers could go.
Posted by: Octiparan
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My great grandfather operated a store in Oklahoma when it was still an Indian territory.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:06 AM (ZO497)

431 With all the talk of moving this state or that state, I was thinking how many here would move back to their home state of country if you had the opportunity? All things being equal of course.

At one time I was tempted to move back to California, since my brothers all live there. Having visited over the years, no f*cking way.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 12:06 AM (IcT7t)

432 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 11:53 PM (ZO497)

Now, Mike, I'm from the NE and I need to get out of NJ. It's too expensive. If my family moved to your neck of the woods, you wouldn't consider us�"assholes" would you? :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 12:07 AM (tOcW/)

433 California in 2010 would be unrecognizable to those from California in 1970.

Yup. If you ever watch Adam 12 or Dragnet it's unrecognizable.

Bizarre.

Posted by: eleven at December 15, 2016 12:07 AM (qUNWi)

434 Oh bullshit, California was the land of the "ham and eggers" back in Jack London's day. Jack London was one of them. They were outnumbered, but considered "cute." It didn't all start in 1967. It was a long march.

College used to be free there, you know. That had an effect.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2016 12:08 AM (H5rtT)

435 And, at least Norman Lear was smart enough to acknowledge/understand, Meathead was way too strident a character to be truly likeable; Archie was far more someone the audience could root for.

Lear has admitted many times that in the household he grew up in, *he himself* was Meathead./i]

And yet that cocksucker pushed the liberal meme into the mainstream. May he rot in hell.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:08 AM (SRKgf)

436 http://preview.tinyurl.com/ht6xq8h

I give you, The United States Department of Homeland Security! Your welcome. Also, Georgia hasn't been a foreign country since at least 1865.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 15, 2016 12:03 AM (pY+s4)

re: Stupid HLS hacking Israel with fingerprints all over it.

Posted by: gNewt at December 15, 2016 12:08 AM (MSiSP)

437 @423 Well, yes. I'm thinking about the changes between, say, 1980 and 2010, which have been enormous.
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Yup. Gray Davis was the first Dem governor since Moonbeam's first term, and he got thrown out on his ear. Now the Dems have a lock on the state from top to bottom. Even Cooley, who was a popular Republican DA here in LA County, couldn't win the State AG spot (my Dad the other night claimed it was a close vote, but the fact of the matter is that he still lost).

Gavin Newsome and his inevitable run for State Governor have come up a few times in discussions with my parents. We're all dreading it because he's pretty much guaranteed to run, and he's all but guaranteed to win (even if they find a dead boy in his bed). And he makes most of the California Legislature look sane in comparison (and the Legislature is so screwed up that it makes Moonbeam look sane in comparison). My only hope at this point is that the fact that the national Democratic bench has been wiped out tempts Newsome into going straight into a presidential run.

Posted by: junior at December 15, 2016 12:08 AM (ff27+)

438 #422: You might be right on those particular details, Steve. They do sound right to me, now that you've pointed them out.

But, my basic point still stands. This guy makes a fortune copying a multitude of British sitcoms, and then he shells out something like $1.4M to own one of those original copies of the Declaration of Independence.

Just so he could declare his own independence from those BBC producers who'd made him so fabulously wealthy.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 12:09 AM (0OG8D)

439 429 Well, yes. I'm thinking about the changes between, say, 1980 and 2010, which have been enormous.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 15, 2016 12:03 AM (Nox3c)

California in 2010 would be unrecognizable to those from California in 1970.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:06 AM (SRKgf)

Dang, you're makin' me feel old....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 12:09 AM (EzgxV)

440 12 Posts of Christmas, 2016 (Day 2)

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12800

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 15, 2016 12:09 AM (vBeA5)

441 @430. What type of store?

Posted by: Octiparan at December 15, 2016 12:09 AM (b9JGJ)

442 Harvey's, my good man, Harvey's.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 10:23 PM (rB/gm)

Harveys, along with Swiss Chalet, is owned by CARA, the airline catering company. Just no.

White Spot used to be good, back when Nat Bailey ran it.

Posted by: Gray Alien at December 15, 2016 12:10 AM (MiBfH)

443 I'm off to the snoozer.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2016 12:11 AM (v5iqM)

444 I just read the article about the hyperemotional people still getting mileage from their histrionics about the loss of Hillary. It's so ridiculous. I have two friends I've seen since the election who I am sure voted for Hillary. They didn't mention the election and neither did I. They didn't weep, wail or pout or dye their hair. Why? Maybe because they have lives and have a faith life and don't need to be to center of attention. They're also in their late 50's and 60's and have been through elections where their candidate didn't win and they survived.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 12:11 AM (tOcW/)

445 PW and Jay, understood :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 12:11 AM (u8kLQ)

446 4chan is a cesspool most of the time, but will reward honesty and kindness sometimes.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 15, 2016 12:11 AM (VdICR)

447 G'night, Jim!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)

448 Let's see, "Emergency!", which I used to watch with delight when I was a kid, was set in LA, wasn't it? Rampart hospital.

And how about late 50s and early 60s LA, which was the setting of Perry Mason?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 15, 2016 12:12 AM (DW+jj)

449 G'Night, Jim.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 12:13 AM (6gk0M)

450 Be back folks, gotta get something to eat for dinner. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 12:14 AM (u8kLQ)

451 Where and why did Gingy live North of 60, Weird Dave? (I've never been; family is from North Ontario.)

Posted by: andycanuck at December 14, 2016 10:30 PM (ENpER)

Gee, I can truthfully say I have set foot in Nunavut, NWT, and Yukon, but only overnight in Nunavut, but for several weeks each in the latter two.

Posted by: Gray Alien at December 15, 2016 12:14 AM (MiBfH)

452 Oh bullshit, California was the land of the "ham and eggers" back in Jack London's day. Jack London was one of them. They were outnumbered, but considered "cute." It didn't all start in 1967. It was a long march.

College used to be free there, you know. That had an effect.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2016 12:08 AM (H5rtT)

I say bullshit to your bullshit. /kidding

Couple points.

First, I didn't say it started in 1967; I was (implicitly) saying that that's when it really took off. The downfall of the U.S. arguably started in 1789, or in 1863, or in 1913, or in 1920.

Second, college was not free in California at least as of 1960 or so. I have canceled checks to prove it. Back when/if it was free, it applied to such a small proportion of the population as not to be significant.

Third, re Jack London, every state has its wankers. Texas has its wankers now. The question is what proportion of the population do they represent, and how much influence do they have?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:14 AM (SRKgf)

453 The news of Custer's massacre was carried back by paddlewheel steamer.
Now, "Walk on The Water" draws less than a Soviet submarine, but.

There are steamers buried, apparently, everywhere along the Missouri.
Rivers used to move around a lot.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2016 12:14 AM (H5rtT)

454 #442: The White Spot? On Colfax, in downtown Denver? That place has been gone for a long, long time.

It barely outlasted the Brick Oven Beanery, IIRC.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 12:15 AM (0OG8D)

455 ONT is too fast for me to catch-up tonight.

I'll just leave this, as it was one of my favorite Eighties tunes.

Imperfection is Human.

Huey Lewis and the News knew that there was no "Perfect World".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIkOVe0MF1k

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 12:15 AM (6gk0M)

456 Gavin Newsome and his inevitable run for State Governor have come up a few times in discussions with my parents.

Posted by: junior at December 15, 2016 12:08 AM (ff27+) fnord (ff27+)

Yeah, despite the "long march" being pretty successful in CA, that would be the march off the cliff. Massive crony socialist - as in Venezuela (with more kink) for the masses, Country clubs and Big Contracts for the Donor Classes.

Won't be long after that, unless something else major happens.

We've turned around a couple of times, hope we can do it again. It's a long shot, but hey, what isn't?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 12:16 AM (wB8Tg)

457 G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 12:17 AM (6gk0M)

458 442 Harvey's, my good man, Harvey's.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 14, 2016 10:23 PM (rB/gm)

Harveys, along with Swiss Chalet, is owned by CARA, the airline catering company. Just no.

White Spot used to be good, back when Nat Bailey ran it.
Posted by: Gray Alien at December 15, 2016 12:10 AM (MiBfH)

I can't taste the ownership, just the burgers.

White Spot is ok. I think they are only in the west, though.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 15, 2016 12:18 AM (rB/gm)

459 It's possible the DHS hack of Georgia story has some legs -- http://www.ajc.com/news/state --regional-govt--politics/brian- kemp-seeks-donald-trump -aid-alleged-hacking/ njzSSIpqHww8C9dcHlF1PP/

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 12:19 AM (EzgxV)

460 Gavin Newsome and his inevitable run for State Governor have come up a few times in discussions with my parents. We're all dreading it because he's pretty much guaranteed to run, and he's all but guaranteed to win (even if they find a dead boy in his bed). And he makes most of the California Legislature look sane in comparison (and the Legislature is so screwed up that it makes Moonbeam look sane in comparison). My only hope at this point is that the fact that the national Democratic bench has been wiped out tempts Newsome into going straight into a presidential run.

Posted by: junior at December 15, 2016 12:08 AM (ff27+)

Yep. I've said that, relatively speaking, Jerry Brown is the voice of reason in California now. Later the bar may sink such that Newsome fills that role. Governor Newsom, Senators Kamala Harris and Dianne Feinstein? I need a drink.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:21 AM (SRKgf)

461 #448: The head nurse at the hospital on that show was played by the lovely Julie London. A pin-up girl and B-movie actress during WWII. She went on to marry Jack Webb of Dragnet fame. They divorced, and she went on to start a career in singing at the age of 29. She was awesome, by the way. Here's my favorite song from her...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3vra-wYHe8

If you've seen that awful movie V For Vendetta, you might remember this Julie London song as the one good part of it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkD_kYkRk3c

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 12:21 AM (0OG8D)

462 Sears sold houses via it's catalog for God's sakes - houses which are still standing today.

I can remember we got most of our appliances from there - Kenmore stuff was considered solid and reliable and wouldn't break the bank.

But when I was in a local one right before it closed, everything looked cheap and sad and the store was almost empty.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 14, 2016 10:44 PM (P8951)

Sears sold cars, too. (and motorcycles):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allstate_%28automobile%29

Posted by: Gray Alien at December 15, 2016 12:21 AM (MiBfH)

463 I'm out. Peace and grace to all, Hordelings.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 15, 2016 12:22 AM (rB/gm)

464 We've turned around a couple of times, hope we can do it again. It's a long shot, but hey, what isn't?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 12:16 AM (wB8Tg) /i]

That's kinda my take. Hoping as a strategy. I'd despaired until this election, but all joking aside, election of The Donald gives me hope that we may be seeing a sea change. I just hope he doesn't burn me.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:22 AM (SRKgf)

465 No, California was openly mocked 100 years ago as a hotbed of moonbattery. Not just a handful of wankers. Sure, "free college" was a myth maybe, but #1 excuse for hippying off there in the mid-60's was that myth. Maybe that's what everybody was so "disillusioned" about after they got there?

I found out you can't even blame the Gold Rush. R.H.Dana spent two years before the mast working his way there when salt-stiffened cattle pelts were the main stock in trade, and he reported some odd birds even then. He did put an afterword in later editions though, about how weird San Francisco had gotten. That's obviously part of the mythos: the college chum who suckers Jimmy Stewart in "Vertigo" says the same thing, and that was in, what, 1954?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2016 12:23 AM (H5rtT)

466 Now, Mike, I'm from the NE and I need to get out of NJ. It's too expensive. If my family moved to your neck of the woods, you wouldn't consider us "assholes" would you? :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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It is only statistically true, not absolutely.
You are welcome any time.

BTW, reminder: FBC radio
http://www.fbcradio.org/listen/

Upper right corner, Windows Player, if you use Windows.

Last 1/2 hour or so:
Dec 15 - 00:25:26 Break Forth, O Beauteous Heavenly Light 1:18
Dec 15 - 00:25:13 Station ID 0:12
Dec 15 - 00:22:20 While Shepherds Watched Their Flocks 2:53
Dec 15 - 00:20:15 All Glory to God in the Sky 2:04
Dec 15 - 00:17:24 O Holy Night 2:51
Dec 15 - 00:15:36 Angels We Have Heard on High 1:47
Dec 15 - 00:12:47 O Little Town of Bethlehem 2:49
Dec 15 - 00:12:01 Station ID 0:45
Dec 15 - 00:07:19 Wake, Awake, for Night Is Flying 4:42
Dec 15 - 00:05:28 On Christmas Night 1:50
Dec 15 - 00:02:16 The Infant King 3:11
Dec 14 - 23:58:49 I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day 3:27
Dec 14 - 23:56:52 God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen 1:57
Dec 14 - 23:55:47 Lift Up Your Heads, Ye Mighty Gates

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:24 AM (ZO497)

467 Yep. I've said that, relatively speaking, Jerry Brown is the voice of reason in California now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:21 AM (SRKgf) fnord (SRKgf)

That's his stage persona. I don't know what his real game is, but he's thrown that somewhat out the window toward the end of his term. Doesn't need the votes I guess.

Gunmageddon is the big example. After vetoing a variety of measures over the years as too harsh, he just let almost all of the latest batch through (despite obvious challenges forthcoming and some procedural shenanigans).

This may have been because the Ninth Circus Court just shit itself on its own precedents and started ruling things constitutional that they'd ruled against before. Not like they're reliable, but there was a run where they actually seemed to be following the rules.

Or it may just be that it was an act all along. It's not the only topic he's lurched left on recently.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 12:27 AM (wB8Tg)

468 Aside from brand names and mil surplus, they private labeled guns from a number of manufacturers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:53 PM (ZO497)

Sears used "J.C. Higgins" as a brand on a many of the sporting goods. I have a very cool old J.C. Higgins aluminum cooler, covered in brown fake alligator skin.

OTOH, their "Ted Williams" outboard motors were utter junk.

Posted by: Gray Alien at December 15, 2016 12:28 AM (MiBfH)

469 Off, alien sock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 12:28 AM (MiBfH)

470 @476 This may have been because the Ninth Circus Court just shit itself on its own precedents and started ruling things constitutional that they'd ruled against before. Not like they're reliable, but there was a run where they actually seemed to be following the rules.
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It's likely individual judges. While the 9th Circuit as a whole is a mess, there have always been judges that didn't think the same way as the majority of the Circuit. You'd occasionally see a news story about a 9th Circuit judge giving a ruling that didn't fit with the way that the Circuit usually acted. It's possible that some of those have been replaced. Or perhaps they just haven't gotten any of the important cases lately.

Posted by: junior at December 15, 2016 12:29 AM (ff27+)

471 If my family moved to your neck of the woods..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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In fairness, I should ask you how you feel about foot-washers and snake-handlers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:32 AM (ZO497)

472 Slapweasel #455: ONT is too fast for me to catch-up tonight. ...

I had that exact thought, just as I got caught up to this.

Posted by: mindful webworker, alternatingly current at December 15, 2016 12:33 AM (5a8XA)

473 Or perhaps they just haven't gotten any of the important cases lately.

Posted by: junior at December 15, 2016 12:29 AM (ff27+) fnord (ff27+)

I'm not actually as up on the details of this as I should be, but I think we just got lucky with the rotation for a few years/a decade or so. There are 44 judges.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 12:33 AM (wB8Tg)

474 OTOH, their "Ted Williams" outboard motors were utter junk.
Posted by: Gray Alien
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Scott-Atwater? Elgin? Who knows?

My dad bought me a 3 h.p. Elgin on sale at Sears for $50.00. This went on an 8' dinghy that he had built for me. I was in hog heaven. Up until then, I had an old open-flywheel Neptune 1 1/2 h.p.

He was a good man, my dad was.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:35 AM (ZO497)

475 468 Aside from brand names and mil surplus, they private labeled guns from a number of manufacturers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2016 10:53 PM (ZO497)

Sears used "J.C. Higgins" as a brand on a many of the sporting goods. I have a very cool old J.C. Higgins aluminum cooler, covered in brown fake alligator skin.

OTOH, their "Ted Williams" outboard motors were utter junk.
Posted by: Gray Alien at December 15, 2016 12:28 AM (MiBfH)

I have a Ted Williams .30-.30 lever action riffle
It was used
Dad gave to me for 16th birthday
Deer hunting riffle for many a year

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 12:36 AM (voOPb)

476 Both exist, along with JC Penny's, because they own the real estate that their stores are located on which gives them great "value". That is how they are able to get financing to keep their doors open.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 14, 2016 11:35 PM (1JnAL)

most of their stores are long term leases.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 12:36 AM (cPsPa)

477 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:24 AM (ZO497)

Nice line up. Thanks for the info.

The young lady I have been covering for at the churches because she is on maternity leave is coming back to do the Christmas Eve and Christmas service. I think she has the Christmas Eve service well underway and probably the Sunday one too, but I may suggest to her that she does Christmas carols and the theology behind them on Christmas Day. There's a lot of information on that on the internet and it would save her from the work of writing a sermon. Dear, lovely woman is probably exhausted from looking after her active 2 year old and her baby,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 12:37 AM (tOcW/)

478 I have a Ted Williams .30-.30 lever action riffle
It was used
Dad gave to me for 16th birthday
Deer hunting riffle for many a year
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Some of those were made by Winchester.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:37 AM (ZO497)

479 Used to do that with the Lafayette and Allied catalogs.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2016 11:11 PM (IqV8l)

Now that brings back memories!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 12:38 AM (MiBfH)

480 Was changing the filter on the furnace and looked at the "Sears Kenmore" nameplate on the 22-year-old unit. Sighed. Won't easily get parts now, I presume.

Keeps right on heating, although one of the four burners sometimes needs to be encouraged to light. Our repairman (who installed it) has replaced the manifold and otherwise fiddled with it, but problem persists. Still, cheaper to hassle with it than to replace the unit!

Now, watch, having praised the old thing, I'll go home tonight to discover it has died. Please, Lord, no! 5°F predicted for the weekend!

Posted by: mindful webworker, warm now but heading out at December 15, 2016 12:39 AM (5a8XA)

481 OTOH, their "Ted Williams" outboard motors were utter junk.>>>

My dad has a Sears Ted Williams over under 12 gauge shotgun that shoots skeet like a dream. Not worth a lot but I really want to own it someday.

Posted by: Willy J. at December 15, 2016 12:40 AM (bqN/x)

482 I have a 1930s Double Barrel 12 Ga. that was purchased through the Sears Catalog. Belgian Made, Italian assembly.

Pheasant killing machine that thing is.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 12:41 AM (PeNEi)

483 Man, there's a guy in the comments section on "Legal Insurrection" arguing that Yes; The electors should be able to change their votes as a matter of conscience. :^(

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 12:42 AM (tOcW/)

484 I have a 1930s Double Barrel 12 Ga. that was purchased through the Sears Catalog. Belgian Made, Italian assembly.

Pheasant killing machine that thing is.
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 12:41 AM (PeNEi)

funny that is. learned to shoot pheasants with something similar. works as well as any of the expensive guns I bought later. possible the gun is not the flaw in the system.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 12:43 AM (cPsPa)

485 My current unemployment can be traced back to when I lost my job at the place I'd been working for 14 years a little over a year and a half ago (note that I did work during much of the intervening period). They cut 40% of the staff, and I was told privately that the reason was due to a perfect storm of events involving a client that suddenly needed cash, and a contract coming up for renewal with said client. Now I just heard from one of my former co-workers (who kept their job), that the company just laid off a bunch more people.

The company acquired a new CEO shortly before the first round of layoffs. From the look of things, he's managing to be quite successful in running it into the ground.

Posted by: junior at December 15, 2016 12:44 AM (ff27+)

486 Was changing the filter on the furnace and looked at the "Sears Kenmore" nameplate on the 22-year-old unit. Sighed. Won't easily get parts now, I presume.
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Pfft. I had a Chrysler gas furnace. Last I saw it, it was 45 years old and still cooking. Cast iron burner, 1/4" welded steel plenum. Just nothing to go wrong. Blower motor was original too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:44 AM (ZO497)

487 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:32 AM (ZO497)

LOL. Foot washers doesn't bother me. I've done that at some services for Lent, or are you talking about a regular thing? Snake handlers-Truthfully, I think that's tempting God and not appropriate for Christians. In Acts of the Apostles that was a work of the Holy Spirit. It wasn't like they went out to look for snakes and pat themselves on the back for handling them safely.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 12:45 AM (tOcW/)

488 possible the gun is not the flaw in the system.
Posted by: yankeefifth
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Crummy ammo... blame the ammo, or the elevation, or the air density.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:46 AM (ZO497)

489 I found out you can't even blame the Gold Rush. R.H.Dana spent two years before the mast working his way there when salt-stiffened cattle pelts were the main stock in trade, and he reported some odd birds even then. He did put an afterword in later editions though, about how weird San Francisco had gotten. That's obviously part of the mythos: the college chum who suckers Jimmy Stewart in "Vertigo" says the same thing, and that was in, what, 1954?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2016 12:23 AM (H5rtT)

"Some odd birds" doesn't count. Every place has some odd birds, and a boom town (as SF was in 1849) will always have more than its share. After all, New York is chock full of odd birds, including its mayor, isn't it? Boston has had mayors re-elected while in jail (Curley, 191

.

Here's your calibration: the state as a whole was a world beater in 1970. It was characterized as "the science state," it was at the top of the league tables in academic results, it was a juggernaut in the American economy, it dominated aerospace, agriculture, and media, and was the source of the nascent technology industry. If it were dysfunctional then, how did it achieve that status?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:47 AM (SRKgf)

490 >.Crummy ammo... blame the ammo, or the elevation, or the air density.

Those birds that roost near the Missile Silos have really dense feathers.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 12:47 AM (PeNEi)

491 Snake handlers-Truthfully, I think that's tempting God and not appropriate for Christians. In Acts of the Apostles that was a work of the Holy Spirit. It wasn't like they went out to look for snakes and pat themselves on the back for handling them safely.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Just joshing. Probably back in the hollows, though...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:47 AM (NBHj5)

492 Man, there's a guy in the comments section on "Legal Insurrection" arguing that Yes; The electors should be able to change their votes as a matter of conscience. :^(

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 12:42 AM (tOcW/)

Electors do have every right to vote for whoever the hell they decide. They aren't locked in by any state laws (which are clearly un-Constitutional). They are not automatons but actual independent agents.

It was the failure of the electors in 2008 - who were the last line to keep an ineligible candidate out of the office, but the electors failed miserably on that, because they were nothing but a bunch of cowardly turds.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 15, 2016 12:50 AM (zc3Db)

493 Snake handlers...

I honestly believe there are a few religions, as well as offshoots of Christianity, that were literally invented while their founders were in "hold my beer" mode mentally.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 12:51 AM (u8kLQ)

494 469 Off, alien sock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 12:28 AM (MiBfH)

Howdy, AOP. If you have the slightest interest in understanding my behavior the night I got banned, please check my posts in acecomments.mu.nu/?post=367307 @780 through @799.

Short version -- I was relieved and happy that it was andycanuck and not something worse, and tried to tell it as a funny story about my silly self, missing the circuit breakers that should have kept it from alarming andycanuck.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 12:51 AM (EzgxV)

495 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 15, 2016 12:50 AM (zc3Db)

I don't feel like arguing the whole thing, but LI has a good discussion. I personally think you should represent your state by voting for the person who won it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 12:53 AM (tOcW/)

496 California has long been a microcosm of the United States, a place where two groups of people immigrated: the best, and the worst.

The best immigrate because they're blocked by the social structure where they came from, and figure a reshuffle of the cards will favor them.

The worst immigrate because they've blotted their copybooks where they came from, and they want to escape the opprobrium and start over (and/or pull their shit on some new victims).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:53 AM (SRKgf)

497 Crummy ammo... blame the ammo, or the elevation, or the air density.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:46 AM (ZO497) fnord (ZO497)

Somebody keeps messing with your sights.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 12:53 AM (wB8Tg)

498 Hoping Rogue One will be bad is probably a false hope.

Look, they are good at popular culture, credit where credit is due...

Posted by: Max Power at December 15, 2016 12:54 AM (QCc6B)

499 Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 12:51 AM (u8kLQ)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 12:54 AM (tOcW/)

500 I don't feel like arguing the whole thing, but LI has a good discussion. I personally think you should represent your state by voting for the person who won it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 12:53 AM (tOcW/)

If the Founders had wanted that then they would not have made a vote by actual electors but would have had the state legislatures simply declare how many of the state's electoral college votes went to which candidates.

The Constitution is pretty clear. I don't care what they might make up over at Legal Insurrection. The electors are not bound by anything, really, which is why the slates of electors are supposed to be picked very carefully (or just directly voted for as some are in some states).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 15, 2016 12:57 AM (zc3Db)

501 Somebody keeps messing with your sights.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 12:53 AM (wB8Tg)

I jocularly suggested doing that to mosques. "You're bowing toward Mecca? Wait - Mecca is THIS way," producing a compass after positioning a large electromagnet outside. Once they all change orientation, wait a few weeks, and do the same thing again after juicing up the current on the electromagnet a bit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:57 AM (SRKgf)

502 >>California has long been a microcosm of the United States

I have a friend who likes to say that California is Europe without the 1600 year head start.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 12:58 AM (PeNEi)

503 If you haven't read LI how do you know what they made up?.

I have no interest in arguing this. I'm here because I have insomnia and feel like **** too. I have no interest in arguments.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 12:59 AM (tOcW/)

504 497 Crummy ammo... blame the ammo, or the elevation, or the air density.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:46 AM (ZO497) fnord (ZO497)

Somebody keeps messing with your sights.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 12:53 AM (wB8Tg)

I actually have the opposite problem -- I shoot better than I see. I can aim for the center of the big square target, go through a magazine, and find I got an impressive number of 'em in the rings I couldn't make out.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:00 AM (EzgxV)

505 With all the talk of moving this state or that state, I was thinking how many here would move back to their home state of country if you had the opportunity? All things being equal of course.

Me. I'd be back in Montana in a flash. Maybe New Hampshire in a pinch since I did enjoy living there for a few years. Young grandkids are keeping me and the Mrs Octiparan here in Oregon.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 14, 2016 11:49 PM (b9JGJ)

Well, I was born in Vancouver, B.C. Would I ever move back there? Not a chance. It has grown from a liveable city into a vast metropolis, with far too many "diversity Canadians" of all stripes. Traffic jams 24/7. No, thanks. Now there are some regions of Interior B.C. that I would be happy in, but there isn't enough pull to get me to move from place in Alberta, which is home to me now.

And the place in AJ is fast becoming a second home.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:00 AM (MiBfH)

506 Snake handling?

I grabbed the momma out of a nest of garden snakes one time. She was unhappy and bit down on herself and drew ... whatever passes for blood in them - which let me illustrate to the three little kiddos that even non-poisonous snakes can give you an owie.

We were tearing down a dilapidated room, and I found two big (4 to 5 foot) brown snakes living in the walls. I just yanked 'em out, grabbed 'em by the neck and hauled them off to the high grass to nest elsewhere. Funny to see the big, tough cowboy who was helping me get almost stand-on-chair squeamish around snakes.

Of course, he's encountered many not-so-friendly ones, and dispatched them timely with his sidearm...

I don't usually think of these incidents as worship, but kinda makes me admire Creation.

* enters teleporter, dials "home" *

Posted by: mindful webworker, irrelevantly at December 15, 2016 01:00 AM (5a8XA)

507 450 Be back folks, gotta get something to eat for dinner. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 12:14 AM (u8kLQ)

What are you thinking, maybe chicken?

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at December 15, 2016 01:00 AM (VSenK)

508 290
She also said something that surprised me. Trump had lawyers there. Plural. I am guessing that he paid for an army of lawyers, and probably had some at every precinct in the state.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at December 14, 2016 11:19 PM (LNgr4)

We don't understand those words in that order.

Posted by: The GOPe, in every election ever at December 15, 2016 01:00 AM (sdi6R)

509 Snake handling?

I grabbed the momma out of a nest of garden snakes one time. She was unhappy and bit down on herself and drew ... whatever passes for blood in them - which let me illustrate to the three little kiddos that even non-poisonous snakes can give you an owie.

We were tearing down a dilapidated room, and I found two big (4 to 5 foot) brown snakes living in the walls. I just yanked 'em out, grabbed 'em by the neck and hauled them off to the high grass to nest elsewhere. Funny to see the big, tough cowboy who was helping me get almost stand-on-chair squeamish around snakes.

Of course, he's encountered many not-so-friendly ones, and dispatched them timely with his sidearm...

I don't usually think of these incidents as worship, but kinda makes me admire Creation.

* enters teleporter, punches button for "home" *

Posted by: mindful webworker, irrelevantly at December 15, 2016 01:00 AM (5a8XA)

510 I jocularly suggested doing that to mosques. "You're bowing toward Mecca? Wait - Mecca is THIS way," producing a compass after positioning a large electromagnet outside.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:57 AM (SRKgf)

Four Lions (Mecca is in the east):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzv0FM_1jhY

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 15, 2016 01:00 AM (zc3Db)

511 Posted by: mindful webworker, irrelevantly at December 15, 2016 01:00 AM (5a8XA)

Those are interesting accounts. I hope that I don't have snakes living in the walls. Maybe they're more likely to do that in warmer places?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 01:02 AM (tOcW/)

512 * partially teleported, peeks out and says... *

Holy cow, what a weird double posting of long & stupid comment. Sorry.

* vanishes *

Posted by: mindful webworker mindful webworker at December 15, 2016 01:02 AM (5a8XA)

513 LOL Bacon Jeff.

Actually I had some chips and dips. Though I might nuke some bacon strips later, I finally just learned how easy it is to fry bacon that way.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 01:02 AM (u8kLQ)

514 >>Some of those were made by Winchester.

I believe it is.
It shot many a deer over a 30 year period unti I moved up to an .06

It sits safely next to my canoe.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 01:02 AM (voOPb)

515 I have no interest in arguments.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 12:59 AM (tOcW/)

So don't argue. You're the one who posted the comment about what electors can and can't do.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 15, 2016 01:02 AM (zc3Db)

516 Good night everyone. I don't need this.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 01:03 AM (tOcW/)

517 I had an idea for a delicious dish the other day:

What if someone served liver smothered in bacon and onions, but left out the liver? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 01:03 AM (u8kLQ)

518 OK, California, greatest thing evah. I was there in 1966, and found it to be, business-wise, a gossamer hothouse, a medley of extemporanea and bullshit artistes, and yes I am speaking exactly of the vaunted agriculture government contracts, aviation government contracts, and technology government contracts. That's not even counting the music scene, which I liked, at the time. Went back for a while in '77, enough to look around and say, yep, it's over. But if you say it was heaven on earth until one song by the Mamas and Papas, all right then.

But in 1960, UC tuition was free to residents. It skyrocketed to $300 a year by 1968.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2016 01:04 AM (H5rtT)

519 #498: Rogue One just can't suck. It has "donglover" playing Lando.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 01:05 AM (0OG8D)

520 Oh, damn.

Winter Weather Advisory tonight.

I had no idea.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 01:06 AM (PeNEi)

521 Video of cop who caught a Taxi Driver who drove a girl into a back dead end road, climbed in the back seat and molest her.

http://pamelageller.com/2016/12/shocking-caught-act-video.html/

Shocker: Muslim Immigrant

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 01:06 AM (39g3+)

522 Chicken explains everything and nothing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2016 01:06 AM (rH4JY)

523 I actually have the opposite problem -- I shoot better than I see. I can aim for the center of the big square target, go through a magazine, and find I got an impressive number of 'em in the rings I couldn't make out.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:00 AM (EzgxV) fnord (EzgxV)

That's not abnormal.

Most shooters doing 600-1000 foot competition with iron sights can't see the 6" center ring either, but they can hold the sights consistently in place.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 01:07 AM (wB8Tg)

524 You conservatives had better be prepared for the Borking of every single Trump appointee.

Bork
Bork
Bork
Bork
Bork

hehehehehehe OH! MY!

Posted by: Georgie Takeme at December 15, 2016 01:07 AM (TYEKr)

525 Crummy ammo... blame the ammo, or the elevation, or the air density.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:46 AM (ZO497)

well it is not helpful when I am trying to aim and everyone keeps screaming "hen"!

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 01:08 AM (cPsPa)

526 Someone should tell John McCain that Sulu didn't get the memo. The party not in power is supposed to go along with all the appointments of the party in power. It's what McCain has always done when Republicans were in the minority in the Senate.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2016 01:08 AM (rH4JY)

527 @524 You conservatives had better be prepared for the Borking of every single Trump appointee.

Bork
Bork
Bork
Bork
Bork

hehehehehehe OH! MY!
-------------------

And when McConnell follows through on Reid's threat to do away with the filibuster for all nominees, what will it matter?

Posted by: junior at December 15, 2016 01:08 AM (ff27+)

528 I don't care what they might make up over at Legal Insurrection. The electors are not bound by anything, really

It varies from state to state. Some are required by state law to vote the way their state does. As the US Constitution very clearly leaves voting laws up to the states to decide, its up to them to do that kind of thing. So some places, they must vote the way the state did.

Some electors are talking about suing to end those laws.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 01:08 AM (39g3+)

529 California got hit in the nuts, hard, in the 1973 oil crisis.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:10 AM (EzgxV)

530 And let me say this-not directed towards anyone in particular and then I'm leaving. When I don't have insomnia and even when I do sometimes-I often don't like to come here late at night because some people seem like they're drinking and get belligerent. Who needs that? I don't (and no, I'm not drunk; I haven't had a drink today; I have about four drinks a month-maybe).

See some of you tomorrow perhaps. Have a good evening.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 01:10 AM (tOcW/)

531 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at December 15, 2016 01:10 AM (ZLQuU)

532 George Takei talks like a fag and his shit's all retarded.

Sorry. It's true.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2016 01:11 AM (ZLQuU)

533 442: The White Spot? On Colfax, in downtown Denver? That place has been gone for a long, long time.

It barely outlasted the Brick Oven Beanery, IIRC.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 12:15 AM (0OG8D)

No. The White Spot chain of drive-in restaurants (with some inside seating), started in Vancouver, B.C. in 1929 by one Nat Bailey. Burger joint with car hops. Good burgers, good French fries, and their signature Manhattan-style clam chowder. Nat sold out to General Foods in the late 1970's, IIRC. Chain still exists, but has moved itself up-market into the crowded niche occupied by Chili's, Texas Roadhouse, TGI Fridays, yada, yada.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:11 AM (MiBfH)

534 You consider that a "problem", Cooth? "Oh, I shoot so well, my eyes just can't register it."

Lots of people out there would be thrilled to have that particular problem, pal.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 01:12 AM (0OG8D)

535 >>>McConnell

Do the right thing? Bwahhhh best laugh of the new day

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 01:12 AM (voOPb)

536 523 I actually have the opposite problem -- I shoot better than I see. I can aim for the center of the big square target, go through a magazine, and find I got an impressive number of 'em in the rings I couldn't make out.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:00 AM (EzgxV) fnord (EzgxV)

That's not abnormal.

Most shooters doing 600-1000 foot competition with iron sights can't see the 6" center ring either, but they can hold the sights consistently in place.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 01:07 AM (wB8Tg)

Yeah, but I'm talking about an indoor target range.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:13 AM (EzgxV)

537 #532: George Takei is a fag.

Posted by: Lee Trevino in his role as an overxplainer in Happy Gilmore at December 15, 2016 01:14 AM (0OG8D)

538 @535 Do the right thing? Bwahhhh best laugh of the new day
---------------

He held the line on the Supreme Court nominee this year.

And remember that the nuclear option was McConnell's idea to begin with. He just didn't actually follow through with his threat. Now that Reid's made it clear that there's no reason to expect the Dems to respect it, there's no reason for McConnell not to go all the way with it.

Posted by: junior at December 15, 2016 01:15 AM (ff27+)

539 534 You consider that a "problem", Cooth? "Oh, I shoot so well, my eyes just can't register it."

Lots of people out there would be thrilled to have that particular problem, pal.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 01:12 AM (0OG8D)

See @536.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:15 AM (EzgxV)

540 Who needs that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 01:10 AM (tOcW/) fnord (tOcW/)

Nobody I know.

Not rare that I leave for the same reason.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 01:16 AM (wB8Tg)

541
Rogue One just can't suck. It has "donglover" playing Lando.

Is that Don Glover or Dong Lover?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2016 01:16 AM (IqV8l)

542 Feel better, Fenelon!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:17 AM (EzgxV)

543 "Strong men create good times"

Btw, the Taj Mahal closed down.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2016 01:18 AM (rH4JY)

544 most of their stores are long term leases.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 12:36 AM (cPsPa)

Forgot that Sears spun their real estate off into a REIT a while back for a quick infusion of cash.

Penney's looks to be in decent shape though.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 15, 2016 01:18 AM (1JnAL)

545 Scott-Atwater? Elgin? Who knows?

My dad bought me a 3 h.p. Elgin on sale at Sears for $50.00. This went on an 8' dinghy that he had built for me. I was in hog heaven. Up until then, I had an old open-flywheel Neptune 1 1/2 h.p.

He was a good man, my dad was.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 12:35 AM (ZO497)

Elgin was it's own brand. Ted Williams, leastwise some models, were a Tecumseh air-cooled engine atop a leg that had a gearshift, and a rudimentary water pump to cool just the exhaust gases.

Neptunes were cool little motors. I have a rare bird, a Flambeau 2.5 horse. The whole thing was split on its vertical axis, like a clamshell. Cylinder a wet liner that nested into recesses in the opposing halves of the casting.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:18 AM (MiBfH)

546 #539: Okay, cue my Tucker Carlson "confused" face, here, because I'm still not seeing the problem.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 01:19 AM (0OG8D)

547 It varies from state to state. Some are required by state law to vote the way their state does. As the US Constitution very clearly leaves voting laws up to the states to decide, its up to them to do that kind of thing. So some places, they must vote the way the state did.

Some electors are talking about suing to end those laws.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 01:08 AM (39g3+)

As I wrote above, the Constitution does NOT give the states the electoral votes. It gives the state legislatures the right to decide how they will select the electors who will vote. If the Funders had wanted the state to actually vote they would have just written it that way.

States can make all the laws they want but they can't control the votes of their electors. That is just a fact. The state can, perhaps, try to bring some punishment to an elector after the fact but that elector's actual vote is totally out of the state's control. And, if logic reigned in our courts (which it most certainly does not) any state laws trying to bind electors would be found to be un-Constitutional.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 15, 2016 01:19 AM (zc3Db)

548 Yeah, but I'm talking about an indoor target range.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:13 AM (EzgxV) fnord (EzgxV)

Marksmanship is more than detail vision. That's all.

Some people with limited vision think their eyes are too poor to shoot well. That happens, but the line is further than you think.

I mean, if you can't distinguish the front from rear sight, you might want to go with something else.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 01:20 AM (wB8Tg)

549 544 most of their stores are long term leases.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 12:36 AM (cPsPa)

Forgot that Sears spun their real estate off into a REIT a while back for a quick infusion of cash.

Penney's looks to be in decent shape though.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 15, 2016 01:18 AM (1JnAL)

I lost a bunch of money investing in JCP. And GM. And Lucent (twice). And Xerox. And Sears. The more of an institution it is, the more fragile. I actually made money with Kmart, though.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:21 AM (EzgxV)

550 #541: His name is Donald Glover. He once joked about how unfortunate it was that he was 25 before he realized his name is technically DongLover.

You might remember him as Troy from the show Community. He was great there, and he also really does resemble a young Billy Dee Williams. I think he'll be awesome in Star Wars: Rogue One.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 01:22 AM (0OG8D)

551 Short version -- I was relieved and happy that it was andycanuck and not something worse, and tried to tell it as a funny story about my silly self, missing the circuit breakers that should have kept it from alarming andycanuck.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 12:51 AM (EzgxV)

That is basically my understanding of it, Cooth. I am pleased to see you back. Sometimes people just butt heads unnecessarily.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:23 AM (MiBfH)

552 I often don't like to come here late at night because some people seem like they're drinking and get belligerent. Who needs that? I don't (and no, I'm not drunk; I haven't had a drink today; I have about four drinks a month-maybe).

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2016 01:10 AM (tOcW/)

Are you calling me belligerent because I actually responded to your comment?

Okey doke. Yep ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 15, 2016 01:23 AM (zc3Db)

553 Alright Horde, pray for me. I'm about to board a plane from AK to CA, the land of fruits and nuts, to spend Christmas with my in-laws. Pray that I don't choke the everloving shit outta somebody who truly deserves it, and end up in liberal jail hell. Oh yes, pray.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 15, 2016 01:24 AM (cm1Bl)

554 Weird Dave, MisHum, CDR M, whomever:

Here's some good ONT fodder:

https://youtu.be/UOQb7Y5QVO8

Posted by: Country Singer (Gab @BertG) at December 15, 2016 01:25 AM (GUBah)

555 546 #539: Okay, cue my Tucker Carlson "confused" face, here, because I'm still not seeing the problem.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 01:19 AM (0OG8D)

It ain't that my aim is so good; it's that my eyesight's so bad. When you back something ten yards down a lane and the only thing you can see on it is that it's square......it's near enough to the extreme case, where you could reach out and touch the target before firing.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:25 AM (EzgxV)

556 I jocularly suggested doing that to mosques. "You're bowing toward Mecca? Wait - Mecca is THIS way," producing a compass after positioning a large electromagnet outside. Once they all change orientation, wait a few weeks, and do the same thing again after juicing up the current on the electromagnet a bit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2016 12:57 AM (SRKgf)

I wonder if any of them ever actually try to bow in the shortest Great Circle distance to mecca?

And if they do, what happens when you place a gaggle of muzzies at the antipodes to mecca?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:26 AM (MiBfH)

557 His name is Donald Glover. He once joked about how unfortunate it was that he was 25 before he realized his name is technically DongLover.

You might remember him as Troy from the show Community. He was great there, and he also really does resemble a young Billy Dee Williams. I think he'll be awesome in Star Wars: Rogue One.

I don't think he's in Rogue One. He'll be Lando in the upcoming Young Han Solo film.

Posted by: gewa76 at December 15, 2016 01:26 AM (B6OKy)

558 tcn, if I see you choking some liberal here in CA sometime within the next few weeks, I promise to keep walking and whistling ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 01:26 AM (u8kLQ)

559 Hey! Who are you calling "belligerent", Fenelon, you...

...you...

...you beautiful human being, you?

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 01:28 AM (0OG8D)

560 What if someone served liver smothered in bacon and onions, but left out the liver? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 01:03 AM (u8kLQ)

No, you need the liver. It really adds to the bacon and onions.

As a kid, I hated liver. As a grownup, I love it. With bacon and onions.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:29 AM (MiBfH)

561 No one can think clearly or sensibly about this vast and burning topic without in the first instance making up his mind upon the fundamental issue. Does he value the State above the citizen, or the citizen above the State? Does a government exist for the individual, or do individuals exist for the government?

The dhimmi exist to serve the Caliphate. ULULULULULULULULU!!!

Posted by: Caliph Anj-Allah Merkel at December 15, 2016 01:30 AM (rH4JY)

562 Switchback, which is probably 20 years old, probaby the best Killer Thriller I have ever seen.
Don't even go to IMDB, just search it out. Really good movie. Worth a couple hours if you like that sort of thing.
A character study on steroids.

Posted by: Gene Siskel's Ghost at December 15, 2016 01:31 AM (1kfXc)

563 #557: Oh, did I get my unreleased Star Wars sidestories mixed up? Sorry about the confusion; they have so much planned for that franchise in the near future.

I really do think Donald Glover will do a great job playing a young Lando Calrissian in... whatever the Hell movie that happens in.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 01:31 AM (0OG8D)

564 This is pretty neat. You can start it at any year from 1958 on.

http://polygraph.cool/history/

Posted by: rickl at December 15, 2016 01:31 AM (sdi6R)

565 551 Short version -- I was relieved and happy that it was andycanuck and not something worse, and tried to tell it as a funny story about my silly self, missing the circuit breakers that should have kept it from alarming andycanuck.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 12:51 AM (EzgxV)

That is basically my understanding of it, Cooth. I am pleased to see you back. Sometimes people just butt heads unnecessarily.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:23 AM (MiBfH)

I tried to apologize to him downthread, but may have just missed him. Any idea what timeslots he normally occupies? I really feel bad that I got so manic, being that it was such a relief to discover it was someone I knew and liked.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:32 AM (EzgxV)

566 Laughed my ass off at the chicken thing.... my wife thought I was nuts!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 15, 2016 01:34 AM (UpGcq)

567 Switchback, which is probably 20 years old, probaby the best Killer Thriller I have ever seen.
Don't even go to IMDB, just search it out. Really good movie. Worth a couple hours if you like that sort of thing.
A character study on steroids.

Posted by: Gene Siskel's Ghost at December 15, 2016 01:31 AM (1kfXc)

Seconded. Great movie. R Lee Ermey's best performance, too. He was awesome.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 15, 2016 01:34 AM (zc3Db)

568 I tried to apologize to him downthread, but may have just missed him. Any idea what timeslots he normally occupies? I really feel bad that I got so manic, being that it was such a relief to discover it was someone I knew and liked.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:32 AM (EzgxV)

Andy is nearly always on the mid-morning art thread.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:36 AM (MiBfH)

569 #555: Oh, okay. Sorry, it sounded to me like you had amazing aim but just couldn't see so well.

Then again, even if that were the case... it'd be harder to see boobies that way.

Okay, I understand now.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 01:36 AM (0OG8D)

570 Well, I'm off to bed. Good night, everyone!

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 15, 2016 01:38 AM (0OG8D)

571 well, i won't be seeing the pictures of the Russian base, because NoScript blocked their adds, and i'm not paying them a dollar a week to see the occasional article from them...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 01:38 AM (nKLZ2)

572 well, i won't be seeing the pictures of the Russian base, because NoScript blocked their adds, and i'm not paying them a dollar a week to see the occasional article from them...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 01:38 AM (nKLZ2)

Heh. Same problem here. I "temporarily" allowed wired.com, and then Noscript popped a mile-long list of scripts to vet. At that point, I said to myself, "fuck it". I saw one pic of a trawler pulled up on an icy shore.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:42 AM (MiBfH)

573 >>>Alright Horde, pray for me. I'm about to board a plane from AK to CA, the land of fruits and nuts, to spend Christmas with my in-laws.

Be sure to ask how the secession is going. It'd be nice to know if it's picking up momentum at the grassroots.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2016 01:42 AM (rH4JY)

574 G'Night, Prothonotary Warlber.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 01:43 AM (6gk0M)

575 568 I tried to apologize to him downthread, but may have just missed him. Any idea what timeslots he normally occupies? I really feel bad that I got so manic, being that it was such a relief to discover it was someone I knew and liked.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:32 AM (EzgxV)

Andy is nearly always on the mid-morning art thread.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:36 AM (MiBfH)

Thanks! I'll look for him there. It's part of the unfinished business of being back, and one of the pains of being banned. The grief you caused people is frozen into existence, where your ability to apologize and make things better is totally blocked.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:44 AM (EzgxV)

576 Few people are able to understand the impact of the Zongker paper on modern society.

Posted by: Ernie Anastos at December 15, 2016 01:45 AM (rH4JY)

577 Fascinating evening. #1 daughter had another viola recital. Naturally, she carried the rest of those tone-deaf, unscrubbed morons. We chatted of this and that, and I learned the origin of the verb 'to careen' from her. They'd haul a ship to a nice, flat beach at high tide, and then heave it on its side at low. Pirate's own drydock. Amazing.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 01:47 AM (pRDUt)

578 In the further adventures of Peon's house rehab, I got under the east side of the trailer today, jacking it up a little, and re-setting the support pylons. Figure I'm 60% done that chore, now. Nearly got my plump Peon body stuck between the bottom of the trailer and the edge of the adjacent concrete slab, but some prolonged squirming got me free.

I can now walk inside the trailer, without it feeling like a trampoline under foot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:48 AM (MiBfH)

579 572 well, i won't be seeing the pictures of the Russian base, because NoScript blocked their adds, and i'm not paying them a dollar a week to see the occasional article from them...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 01:38 AM (nKLZ2)

Heh. Same problem here. I "temporarily" allowed wired.com, and then Noscript popped a mile-long list of scripts to vet. At that point, I said to myself, "fuck it". I saw one pic of a trawler pulled up on an icy shore.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:42 AM (MiBfH)

You see stuff like that -- and stuff like https://krebsonsecurity.com /2016/12/new-critical-fixes -for-flash-ms-windows/#more-37246 -- and you just shake your head. How can websites continue to believe you want to accept and run whatever garbage a dozen random domains want to serve you just to access their content? I might trust Wired, buy why should that automatically make me trust some gobbledegook non-human readable website?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:50 AM (EzgxV)

580 For the second time...

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 01:51 AM (6gk0M)

581 Fascinating evening. #1 daughter had another viola recital. Naturally, she carried the rest of those tone-deaf, unscrubbed morons. We chatted of this and that, and I learned the origin of the verb 'to careen' from her. They'd haul a ship to a nice, flat beach at high tide, and then heave it on its side at low. Pirate's own drydock. Amazing.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 01:47 AM (pRDUt)

I think that shows up in Stevenson's "Treasure Island". Or maybe a sequel, written by one H.A. Callahan.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:51 AM (MiBfH)

582 You see stuff like that -- and stuff like https://krebsonsecurity.com /2016/12/new-critical-fixes -for-flash-ms-windows/#more-37246 -- and you just shake your head. How can websites continue to believe you want to accept and run whatever garbage a dozen random domains want to serve you just to access their content? I might trust Wired, buy why should that automatically make me trust some gobbledegook non-human readable website?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:50 AM (EzgxV)

Well, I wouldn't trust Wired. Too lefty for me. And the way, I see, if that series of photos is in fact, really awesome, and worthy of wider distribution, well, it will get it eventually, and I can see it then.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:53 AM (MiBfH)

583 AOP, hmmm :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 01:53 AM (u8kLQ)

584 578. Heh. Had a house where, if you put a marble in just the right place in the kitchen, it would roll thru the dining room and then hang a gentle left on its way to the front room.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 01:54 AM (pRDUt)

585 @573 Be sure to ask how the secession is going. It'd be nice to know if it's picking up momentum at the grassroots.
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It's not. The nuts get publicity, but any attempt to actually leave the country would fall flat on its face at the polls.

Posted by: junior at December 15, 2016 01:54 AM (ff27+)

586 Some good news to close out with.

Tomorrow I get up, make a phone call, and write a check.

My last non-mortgage debt will then be paid, 9 months earlier than I had projected.

G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 01:55 AM (IcT7t)

587 580 For the second time...

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 01:51 AM (6gk0M)

Goodnight, Slapweasel!!! Hey, would it be ok if I called you a little later tonight?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:55 AM (EzgxV)

588 Blanco, good news. Good night!

And I have to call it a night too. Thanks to all for tonight's great chat. Weekend's a-comin'... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 01:56 AM (u8kLQ)

589 No, you need the liver. It really adds to the bacon and onions.

As a kid, I hated liver. As a grownup, I love it. With bacon and onions.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:29 AM (MiBfH)

oddly as a kid my mom says I loved liver, then someone forgot to keep feeding it to me until I was old enough to know what it was and I would not touch it ever.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 01:56 AM (cPsPa)

590 Political: Pat Fuckin' Caddell puts you in some fuckin' knowledge

https://youtu.be/qVZcGeuAjus

He speaks about three weeks prior to the election here. He describes the elitists as riding the country into a crater like Slim Pickens. He did some good polling about how 2016 is a sanctioned revolution. It's amazing when he gets angry and shouty.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 15, 2016 01:57 AM (VdICR)

591 582 You see stuff like that -- and stuff like https://krebsonsecurity.com /2016/12/new-critical-fixes -for-flash-ms-windows/#more-37246 -- and you just shake your head. How can websites continue to believe you want to accept and run whatever garbage a dozen random domains want to serve you just to access their content? I might trust Wired, buy why should that automatically make me trust some gobbledegook non-human readable website?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:50 AM (EzgxV)

Well, I wouldn't trust Wired. Too lefty for me. And the way, I see, if that series of photos is in fact, really awesome, and worthy of wider distribution, well, it will get it eventually, and I can see it then.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:53 AM (MiBfH)

You will note that I said "might" trust Wired.

You're absolutely correct that my first inclination would not be to trust them.....and, as far as their "fellow travelers" -- hell, no.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 01:58 AM (EzgxV)

592 Speaking of Sharia, which direction are you supposed to face when fucking a goat?

Is it the same direction as for sodomizing little boys? How about when brutally raping your Yazidi slave girls?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 15, 2016 01:59 AM (DW+jj)

593 Heh. Had a house where, if you put a marble in just the right place in the kitchen, it would roll thru the dining room and then hang a gentle left on its way to the front room.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 01:54 AM (pRDUt)

Heh. I am used to tilted floors, working in wellsite skid shacks that are often ill-levelled.

I put a level on the floor of the trailer, and it's maybe 1/10 of a bubble off plumb, which is a vast improvement on what it had been. And maybe 4 of the ten pylons I've so far dealt with were bearing no weight at all, and the wedges fallen into the dirt.

And I raked several trash bags of litter out from beneath the trailer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:59 AM (MiBfH)

594 Jeez, I'm giving shit to a guy on twatter that claims to be an F/A-18 Aircrew, but doesn't know the difference in black shoes and brown shoes.

Posted by: Country Singer (Gab @BertG) at December 15, 2016 02:00 AM (GUBah)

595 581. I was so impressed I didn't think to ask where she'd learned that. Used the word for ages - learnt it from my mother's people - but never thought it anything other than a quaint way of saying 'to lean bigly.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 02:00 AM (pRDUt)

596 I keep no script on when I'm browsing, but if I run into something interesting that has a bunch of stuff running I'll take it to a different browser to see if it's interesting. I have other programs running that stop hijack attempts if the site has malware. No script for me is to control annoying ads and shit like that.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 15, 2016 02:01 AM (yIhYo)

597 It's almost as if the Netherlands is hell bent on euthanizing the entire country!

What better way to provide housing for incoming refugees? Smart.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2016 02:02 AM (rH4JY)

598 AOP - Elgin/Sears
http://elginoutboards.org/

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 02:03 AM (ZO497)

599 I was so impressed I didn't think to ask where she'd learned that. Used the word for ages - learnt it from my mother's people - but never thought it anything other than a quaint way of saying 'to lean bigly.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 02:00 AM (pRDUt)

Well, "careen" in the general sense means to move haphazardly, like the ball in a pinball machine. Often said of drunks.

But to careen a ship is a very specific and deliberate action.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 02:04 AM (MiBfH)

600 578. Heh. Had a house where, if you put a marble in just the right place in the kitchen, it would roll thru the dining room and then hang a gentle left on its way to the front room.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 01:54 AM (pRDUt)

My old fraternity house, which was newly built when I lived in it, was AFU like that. My room was at the end of the north wing. I could put a can of beer on the hallway floor and it would roll to the end of the south wing.

We sometimes held beer races. Loser had to chug.

Posted by: Country Singer (Gab @BertG) at December 15, 2016 02:04 AM (GUBah)

601 202 Sears should have been Amazon. It's a natural evolution, from catalog to virtual shopping. Too bad nobody at Sears had that eureka moment.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 14, 2016 11:00 PM (yIhYo)
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Organizations mostly don't do that. They are too hidebound to take advantage of such transformational eureka moments. Instead, they die and are replaced by organizations built from the beginning to do the new thing.

Posted by: Splunge at December 14, 2016 11:13 PM (iMxBJ)

The biggest problem with any large organization, and we see it with government too, is inertia. Not just inertia at the top of the food chain, but inertia from the bottom rungs, too. 'Why change anything, Sears will always be here!'

It's like the freedom argument: We'll always have freedom in the US of A, until we don't. And many never see the loss of freedom coming straight at them. Just like many large corporations never see the loss of their business because it has always been there, until they're filling out the Chapter 13 paperwork.

The larger an organization is, the less likely it is to be able to deal with problems with alacrity. When you have to go through twelve levels of corporate or government bureaucracy to get a light bulb changed, you might have a problem.

Posted by: RickZ at December 15, 2016 02:05 AM (dQLTf)

602 578 In the further adventures of Peon's house rehab, I got under the east side of the trailer today, jacking it up a little, and re-setting the support pylons. Figure I'm 60% done that chore, now. Nearly got my plump Peon body stuck between the bottom of the trailer and the edge of the adjacent concrete slab, but some prolonged squirming got me free.

I can now walk inside the trailer, without it feeling like a trampoline under foot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 01:48 AM (MiBfH)

There's a house going up around the corner from us that's prefab by an outfit called Blu homes -- https://www.bluhomes.com/ .

They just delivered the actual 2-story house. It came on a truck, all folded up, and they had to unfold it onsite with a crane over two days. Construction origami.

In a way, it's sad -- the house that was on the lot before was made entirely of redwood. Dated layout, aged finishes, weird modifications.....but all the studs, joists, headers, and everything else was old-growth redwood. New house is MDF and green panelboards and shit.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 02:06 AM (EzgxV)

603 595. I've noticed a similar pattern with other things. As jewbillies, we picked up a lit of scots-irish and obsolete english when we went native, and just sort of added it to the germano-yiddish stock we had already. I think I was 13 when I learned that 'Pinkerton,' in addition to being the family equivalent of 'Judas,' was also the name of a detective agency from the Coal Wars.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 02:07 AM (pRDUt)

604 592 Speaking of Sharia, which direction are you supposed to face when fucking a goat?

Is it the same direction as for sodomizing little boys? How about when brutally raping your Yazidi slave girls?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 15, 2016 01:59 AM (DW+jj)

How's the digestion?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 02:08 AM (EzgxV)

605 AOP - Elgin/Sears
http://elginoutboards.org/

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2016 02:03 AM (ZO497)

Wow! Elgin was so commonplace, I figured they were independent of Sears.

I have a soft spot for these motors because my father was a dealer for them for a while. They are really beautifully made. One of the slimmest lower units you will ever see.

http://oddjobmotors.com/flambeau.htm

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 02:11 AM (MiBfH)

606 596 I keep no script on when I'm browsing, but if I run into something interesting that has a bunch of stuff running I'll take it to a different browser to see if it's interesting. I have other programs running that stop hijack attempts if the site has malware. No script for me is to control annoying ads and shit like that.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 15, 2016 02:01 AM (yIhYo)

If I want to go "all-in" to a website, I'll burn a fresh NOOBS on an SD card for a Raspberry Pi, initialize it, change its name and password, load ufw, access the site, and reformat the SD card. As you might guess, I don't do this often.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 02:13 AM (EzgxV)

607 I'm just paranoid enough to wonder if hitting "update" and seeing no posts since 2:13 (blog clock), then posting this, might show other posts since 2:13.....let's see.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 02:30 AM (EzgxV)

608 Hmmm....nope.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 02:33 AM (EzgxV)

609 604: Glad I checked back in before I checked out for the night.

I'm over whatever it was. My gut still feels a little bit funny, but that's just the aftereffects.

I'm pretty sure it was some kind of food poisoning, likely from some fried chicken I'd left out too long. Some little pathogenic bugs get in the gut, and the gut reacts by dumping fast and furious. And after that, you're clear.

That's usually how food poisoning goes. Unless it's something really serious.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 15, 2016 02:34 AM (DW+jj)

610 609 604: Glad I checked back in before I checked out for the night.

I'm over whatever it was. My gut still feels a little bit funny, but that's just the aftereffects.

I'm pretty sure it was some kind of food poisoning, likely from some fried chicken I'd left out too long. Some little pathogenic bugs get in the gut, and the gut reacts by dumping fast and furious. And after that, you're clear.

That's usually how food poisoning goes. Unless it's something really serious.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 15, 2016 02:34 AM (DW+jj)

Glad to hear you're doing better. We live on a much finer line than many suppose, and food poisoning can really lay you out -- even though the usual "expulsion through any means" fixes many instances as soon as you are empty.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 02:43 AM (EzgxV)

611 try: http://shapran.photoshelter.com/ portfolio/G0000fL4bpQrBces

or

birdinflight.com/contest-new-east-photo- prize/new-east-photo-prize-cape-north-andrey-shapran.html

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 02:48 AM (nKLZ2)

612 That's usually how food poisoning goes. Unless it's something really serious.
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or if you have ulcerative colitis

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 02:49 AM (nKLZ2)

613 got it, the best way to get that kid to read and write......
snare drum and custom sticks for the little one

we'll learn the drum parts to Li'l Drummer Boy
and he will play, and that's that.

All I ever needed was "that's you kid". I was blessed for coaching.

If I can't teach the holding, a long roll via doubles, ratamacue, well...

I surely will have failed, but... as it turns out, fail is not in my vocabulary.

dontchaknow.

God bless you all. Really, bottom of my dearest, darkest heart, I say that.

Posted by: micky at December 15, 2016 02:57 AM (o5vMc)

614 but all the studs, joists, headers, and everything else was old-growth redwood.
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did they at least save that wood?

i'm betting they tore it down with a machine and trashed it all.

i've found 2x4s and other structural members here where i live in Lost Angels, 30's 40's construction, and, from the rings visible in the wood, they were using old growth wood for that too: dense rings, no knots and the developers just rip it all down and haul it off in a dumpster, just so they can build an ugly box for people with more money than taste.

it's fing sad.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 03:07 AM (nKLZ2)

615 what's Sulu's bitch? I've heard the 'oh, my', never gave it a thought.
Does he/xhe dislike/hate me? Fine, for parking. Off my ranch, asshole.

Posted by: micky at December 15, 2016 03:08 AM (o5vMc)

616 **kicks thread, hears a groan. Rolls thread over and goes thru its pockets. Finds less than $20.00, a half pack of generic smokes, and an unopened half-pint of 'Kentucky Deluxe Blended Whiskey.' Pockets loot, then kicks thread in the teeth for wasting his time.**

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 03:09 AM (pRDUt)

617 I'm over whatever it was. My gut still feels a little bit funny, but that's just the aftereffects.

I'm pretty sure it was some kind of food poisoning, likely from some
fried chicken I'd left out too long. Some little pathogenic bugs get in
the gut, and the gut reacts by dumping fast and furious. And after that,
you're clear.

CHICKEN! Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken .Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken!

Fuck it, I'm going to bed. 'Nite all.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 15, 2016 03:14 AM (yIhYo)

618 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3APydMZifg

Oh, wait -- did he say "pegman"? Never mind.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 03:15 AM (EzgxV)

619 614 but all the studs, joists, headers, and everything else was old-growth redwood.
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did they at least save that wood?

i'm betting they tore it down with a machine and trashed it all.

i've found 2x4s and other structural members here where i live in Lost Angels, 30's 40's construction, and, from the rings visible in the wood, they were using old growth wood for that too: dense rings, no knots and the developers just rip it all down and haul it off in a dumpster, just so they can build an ugly box for people with more money than taste.

it's fing sad.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 03:07 AM (nKLZ2)

Nope, dumpsterized. They probably did do a quick analysis on cost/benefit, though. Part of the problem is that most of the antique redwood was covered with lead paint.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 03:21 AM (EzgxV)

620 Part of the problem is that most of the antique redwood was covered with lead paint.
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that's what belt sanders and planers are for...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 03:27 AM (nKLZ2)

621 Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 03:21 AM (EzgxV)

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oh, BTW: welcome back.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 03:28 AM (nKLZ2)

622 621 Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 03:21 AM (EzgxV)

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oh, BTW: welcome back.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 03:28 AM (nKLZ2)

Thank you. I've been reading along with the ONT all along, but really felt bad when I couldn't offer support.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 03:45 AM (EzgxV)

623 i was going to ask you what you did while on vacation...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 03:49 AM (nKLZ2)

624 620 Part of the problem is that most of the antique redwood was covered with lead paint.
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that's what belt sanders and planers are for...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 03:27 AM (nKLZ2)

I can only imagine how freaked the California EPA would be if I started planing a bunch of lead paint off of siding.

Mind you, there is a local golf course called -- with reason -- "Cinnabar Hills", and there's a neighborhood that's situated on a natural asbestos outcrop. A lot of stuff that California considers toxic occurs naturally.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 03:50 AM (EzgxV)

625 623 i was going to ask you what you did while on vacation...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 03:49 AM (nKLZ2)

Same like I do most other times -- worried over people I care about.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 03:52 AM (EzgxV)

626 Structural wood not exposed I would think wouldn't be painted but they still need to be cleaned of fasteners and slit parts cut off. It is a time consuming process but for a better product mihght have been worth it. I have used previously used material very often but almost always if I did the demolition.
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2016 03:53 AM (5sOEp)

627 626 Structural wood not exposed I would think wouldn't be painted but they still need to be cleaned of fasteners and slit parts cut off. It is a time consuming process but for a better product mihght have been worth it. I have used previously used material very often but almost always if I did the demolition.
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2016 03:53 AM (5sOEp)

Another facet is that labor/facilities are wildly expensive in Silicon Valley. If the building had been in the Central Valley, it might have been economical to salvage more lumber. But, here, it got readily dumpsterized. I'm not going to second-guess their project manager, but I can see where they'd do a back-of-the-envelope and blow the whole thing into a dumpster. The costs to figure out the logistics to potentially make it work.....costs around here are just nuts.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 04:00 AM (EzgxV)

628 Don't eat the lead paint and you'll be fine.

Heard a promotion radio spot for a conservative group calling Trump's administration picks his Super Freinds. If they clean house of true beilievers and their regulations I would go along with that moniker.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2016 04:05 AM (5sOEp)

629 Just to let you know how nuts things are, this is a house around the corner from the one I've been talking about -- https://www.redfin.com/CA/Santa-Clara/ 221-Harold-Ave-95050/ home/751439

And almost the same distance away, there are apartments where the postman tells me there are 8-12 names per apartment number.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 04:09 AM (EzgxV)

630 Good Morning Everyone.

"If they clean house of true beilievers and their regulations I would go along with that moniker."

I just read an article that the Feds have revised the Water Regulations out in California so that the Farmers there get a whole lot more of it than they got in the last 8 years.

It's Info Wars but sourced back to the Sacramento Bee.

http://www.infowars.com/trump-effect-lawmakers-

now-fixing-californias-government-fueled-water-

crisis/

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 15, 2016 04:14 AM (d76uN)

631 628 Don't eat the lead paint and you'll be fine.

Heard a promotion radio spot for a conservative group calling Trump's administration picks his Super Freinds. If they clean house of true beilievers and their regulations I would go along with that moniker.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2016 04:05 AM (5sOEp)

Trump is installing people to head agencies they have fought for years and actively loathe, which is massive schadenboner material. The first one where they pull the fire alarm and lock the worthless parasites out in the street could leave me orgasming on the sidewalk wherever I hear the news.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 04:22 AM (EzgxV)

632 Hey, Tic-Tac! Ya ever notice how the snappy dialogue dries up once a guy starts soilin' his Union Suit? - Eddie Dane.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 04:22 AM (pRDUt)

633 Dunkirk 2017 movie trailer at Hotair, looks good.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2016 04:26 AM (5sOEp)

634 Mornin'.

Watching Trump's Wisconsin rally. LOVE the new Thank You Tour podium...Merry Christmas! No Happy Holidays but Merry CHRISTMAS.

Trump - Making Christmas Great Again!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2016 04:28 AM (ul9CR)

635 Heh. Asked #1 daughter if she wanted to do shashka practice this weekend. 'No, daddy. I'll be PMS-ing by then. I'd either cut you or start crying or something. '

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 04:35 AM (pRDUt)

636 Just for fun and games, the Constitution says that the US government can do the following things -- and nothing more nor less:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 04:35 AM (EzgxV)

637 Everything that the US government is supposed to be doing can easily fit within a blog comment. Everything else is unconstitutional, and a violation of the 9th and 10th Amendments.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 04:44 AM (EzgxV)

638 I judge the civilization of any community by simple tests. What is the
degree of freedom possessed by the citizen or subject? Can he think,
speak and act freely under well-established, well-known laws? Can he
criticize the executive government? Can he sue the State if it has
infringed his rights? Are there also great processes for changing the
law to meet new conditions? Judging by these standards, Great Britain
and the United States can claim to be in the forefront of civilized
communities.

Unfortunately this no longer true for the United States, and it had already been declining even before Churchill wrote that statement. But in the 1970s it accelerated at a frantic pace.

The story on the civil assets forfieture above is just one example of both the feds and the local communities that have take a law that was supposed to apply to the drug trade and used it to illegally steal millions from citizens w/o so much as a charge, much less a conviction.

And the regulatory agencies like the EPA are running amuck issuing new regulations with criminal penalties with no input from a legislative body and no oversight other than an equally criminal executive branch.

And depending on whether or not the black robes consider the abuse as a need for liberals, it is OK'd as a "good" despite it being unconsitutional as hell. I reference the terrible ruling on private property held under Kelo in which the liberals rewrote the constitution to say "public purpose" instead of "public use" and thus opened the door to end private property for virtually any reason. And that is only one example of many.

This is the swamp that Trump must clean up.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 04:52 AM (mpXpK)

639 cuthulh you forgot the living breathing part.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2016 04:57 AM (5sOEp)

640 Well Morons, finished my breakfast. And I have completed a preliminary run on my taxes for this year before the end of the year to see what I need for 4th quarter payments.

I need a rocking chair day and it has been a while. I can not find exactly where but it seems that I have $20K more in taxable income this year despite nothing changing in my income coming in other than a few thousand in wife's SS. And I need a shit ton of 4th quarter payment to cover it.

That calls for a rocking chair.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 05:00 AM (mpXpK)

641 I'm already having a good day. Jury duty canceled. I was not looking forward to going to that.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 15, 2016 05:01 AM (J+mig)

642 Check back in later, I have the seal to crack on a bottle of bourbon.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 05:04 AM (mpXpK)

643 Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 15, 2016 04:14 AM (d76uN)

Good morning!

I looked for that video of the artillery "ballet" I mentioned yesterday, but unfortunately I couldn't find it. I did find a fun one though, so I will throw that up this weekend so the Horde can appreciate the finer points of a 155mm howitzer.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2016 05:08 AM (42Mgr)

644 I can only imagine how freaked the California EPA would be if I started planing a bunch of lead paint off of siding.

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only if you told them about it....

just wear a mask and do it outside.

the local AQMD would also have a shit fit, but what they don't know about they can't regulate.

i told R351dent 3vil the SCAQMD said she and the cat's couldn't have a fire last night.

being the daughter of a battleship sailor during the late unpleasantness with our allies the Japanese, i'll leave as an exercise to the readers what she said, but we did have a fire.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 05:09 AM (nKLZ2)

645 I have the seal to crack on a bottle of bourbon.
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i just cracked open a new bottle of vodka, but, since it's after 0200 here and day walkers are appearing, maybe i shouldn't get too tucked into it?

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 05:11 AM (nKLZ2)

646 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2016 05:08 AM (42Mgr)

Towed or Self Propelled?

I'll tell ya awhile back there was a vid of some Marine Cannon Cockers going off on some taliban in astan.

Those guys knew what they were doing but still it was a M777 towed. Lots of room to work.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 15, 2016 05:13 AM (d76uN)

647 Morning all. This bullchip of government employees being able to blow off Congress needs to stop posthaste. They are not their own little fiefdom and they should prosecuted the instant they don't comply.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 15, 2016 05:16 AM (lm/6G)

648 They are not their own little fiefdom and they should prosecuted the instant they don't comply.
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you misspelled "unemployed", IMHO.

w/o benefits of any kind, to include pension.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 05:29 AM (nKLZ2)

649 Mornin'

Posted by: teej at December 15, 2016 05:34 AM (gJ3Vg)

650 Good morning.

Posted by: Catwrangler at December 15, 2016 05:36 AM (DZsvp)

651 Towed or Self Propelled?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 15, 2016 05:13 AM (d76uN)

Towed.....

Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v94qdpJqK9w

Not quite the same as the one I am thinking of: that one had three guns firing and it was awesome....there must have been rounds in the air for five minutes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2016 05:37 AM (42Mgr)

652 They had a full crew. Something that rarely happen when I was in FA from 83-95.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 15, 2016 05:44 AM (d76uN)

653 redc1c4-Absolutely. No more Lerners.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 15, 2016 05:52 AM (lm/6G)

654 someplace on line is a video from back during the '03 invasion of Iraq with Jarhead 155s doing a battery fire of epic proportions...

smoke, noise and outbound mail in large quantities.

it was awesome

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 05:52 AM (nKLZ2)

655 I was on the older towed 155.
I couldn't remember the designation and someone here said it was the M114 I believe.
You can see one or two towards the end of "Stripes" when they're practicing for their graduation hodown.

Posted by: teej at December 15, 2016 05:54 AM (gJ3Vg)

656 647 Morning all. This bullchip of government employees being able to blow off Congress needs to stop posthaste. They are not their own little fiefdom and they should prosecuted the instant they don't comply.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 15, 2016 05:16 AM (lm/6G)

Accountability is essential to liberty. It's the only thing that can keep the totalitarians from keeping a steady march towards totalitarianism. Everyone must be accountable to someone, preferably multiple someones.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 15, 2016 05:55 AM (J+mig)

657 Cato-If anyone tried this in another scenario , you would be out the door and your crap would be mailed to you, postage due.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 15, 2016 06:07 AM (lm/6G)

658 At BB- Priebus says there is going to be a shake up in the way the press works in a Trump admin. Sounds like Donald is going directly to the people.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 15, 2016 06:15 AM (lm/6G)

659 The spy masters have proof that Vlad "hacked the election". They won't share it but it's totes true.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 15, 2016 06:18 AM (d76uN)

660 652 They had a full crew. Something that rarely happen when I was in FA from 83-95.

Did you ever get a "bad round" ?

That was the story we got when one went off the range at Ft. McCoy many, many moons ago and demolished an old abandonded barracks.

But for all I know the story was bullshit.

Posted by: SD at December 15, 2016 06:20 AM (fiGNd)

661 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 15, 2016 06:22 AM (u82oZ)

662 Yeah, I remember years ago congresscritters telling us that they hadn't read the bill they were voting for.

Tried to imagine telling the boss that kind of crap; failed.

I knew then that we were in it, deep.

G'mornin' Horde !

Back w/ coffee & wx report shortly ....

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 15, 2016 06:25 AM (nrnR5)

663 More heat! 20 ℉.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 15, 2016 06:25 AM (u82oZ)

664 Posted by: SD at December 15, 2016 06:20 AM (fiGNd)

Not to my knowledge did we ever get a bad round, if by that you mean a dud. That doesn't mean they don't exist though.

Now Ft. McCoy was a Army Reserve Base so what might have been issued to those training there might not have been the highest quality or might have been just to old to work correctly anymore.

By any chance were you in the 4/75 FA?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 15, 2016 06:29 AM (d76uN)

665 Morning all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2016 06:30 AM (sRFAL)

666 Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 15, 2016 06:22 AM (u82oZ)

Can we do it sitting by the Fireplace? It's kind of hard to do when you are freezing solid.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 15, 2016 06:30 AM (d76uN)

667 Well, I am back for the EMT, have a few links to add to JJ's.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 06:30 AM (mpXpK)

668 More heat! 20 . Posted by: NaCly Dog

More coal to the Nuclear Furnace. It's -2 here

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2016 06:34 AM (8ikIW)

669 I did take some time out to go outside and try to figure out why my overhead yard light went out a few days ago after only having had the bulb changed about a month ago.

No luck. I think the socket had gone bad in the fixture. It did feel lose as I screwed the new bulb in using an extension pole.

I think I am going to put a new fixture down lower that uses flood lights instead of a mercury vapor light. Easier to change, but not sure how they will take rain without some type of cover.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 06:34 AM (mpXpK)

670 By the way DELL sucks. They lie about their ship dates and does any one at that fucked up Company NOT work in India?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2016 06:35 AM (sRFAL)

671 A California college professor who told her students that Donald Trumps election was an act of terrorism has gone into hiding after her comments prompted a firestorm and death threats.

Good. Fuck her and the Union

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2016 06:36 AM (sRFAL)

672 670
By the way DELL sucks. They lie about their ship dates and does any one at that fucked up Company NOT work in India?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2016 06:35 AM (sRFAL)

They used to be the best computer dealer in the US. I bought all my new rigs from them. But I have noticed a severe drop in the quality of their stuff. I got my last computer for wifey from Walmart.

Figure that as long as I am getting less than stellar stuff, may as well get it from the cheapest source available.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 06:37 AM (mpXpK)

673 They used to be the best computer dealer in the US. I bought all my new rigs from them. But I have noticed a severe drop in the quality of their stuff. I got my last computer for wifey from Walmart.

Figure that as long as I am getting less than stellar stuff, may as well get it from the cheapest source available.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 06:37 AM (mpXpK)

Well I got a pretty good price from them with my Military Discount and I am actually ONLY using this computer for the Military...but it was an off the shelf item and it is taking 2 weeks to ship?????

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2016 06:39 AM (sRFAL)

674 673 Well I got a pretty good price from them with my
Military Discount and I am actually ONLY using this computer for the
Military...but it was an off the shelf item and it is taking 2 weeks to
ship?????

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2016 06:39 AM (sRFAL)

Did you get an "off the shelf configuration" or a custom build?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 06:41 AM (mpXpK)

675 Two teachers here in Dekalb County Georgia were forced to resign this week or be terminated after making pro-Trump and supposedly racist statements they made after the election. . Actual statements can't be found so I'm hey were anything approaching racist or hateful but one teacher expressed support for Trumps policy of deporting illegal immigrants. Georgia Teachers Association didn't make the slights effort to defend them and and helped in the negotiation to allow them to resign instead of be fired. The demonizing and hate being directed at these teachers for defending our law and sane immigration policy incredible.

The school they taught in is not far from me. Around 80 % Hispanic, mostly anchor babies and illegals, plenty of Obama's unaccompanied minors. Similar to the one my kids recently escaped for a charter school.

My only hope and expectation of Trump is he sticks to his word on immigration and that it is not too late. Otherwise, his election is just a short reprieve, a bump in the road to Third World status.

Posted by: Ripley at December 15, 2016 06:42 AM (1BQGO)

676 By any chance were you in the 4/75 FA?

281st Maint Co at the time. Doing the Summer of Fun at McCoy - like you surmised.

The story we got was that the round was eccentric, causing it to go off-course. We didn't know if that was the case - or somebody just really, really screwed up.

Posted by: SD at December 15, 2016 06:42 AM (fiGNd)

677 671: I call bs on that. She is not getting death threats. She's drama queening. She's getting off on the attention.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 15, 2016 06:42 AM (BhJh0)

678 Today is not starting well. The heat is not working in my apartment. It is 40 degrees in here. The hot water is also not working, which means I took the quickest recorded shower in human history. I have on 3 layers of clothing, plus blankets.

I guess it's preparation for going outside. It's 1 degree out there.

Crap, crap, crap.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 15, 2016 06:44 AM (P8951)

679 Did you get an "off the shelf configuration" or a custom build?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 06:41 AM (mpXpK)

The ONLY thing I changed was their "suggested" upgrade to Windows 10 Professional and that upgrade they should have on the shelf.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2016 06:44 AM (sRFAL)

680 Tim in Illinois and Bruce:

No Fireplaces for Climate Changers, starring Al Bore.

Denying a environmentalist electricity can keep us warmer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 15, 2016 06:45 AM (u82oZ)

681 675 My only hope and expectation of Trump is he sticks
to his word on immigration and that it is not too late. Otherwise, his
election is just a short reprieve, a bump in the road to Third World
status.

Posted by: Ripley at December 15, 2016 06:42 AM (1BQGO)

This is what happens when public employees are allowed to unionize. If/when those fired teachers sue, because they do have a good cause of action, the only people held accountable will be the taxpayers.

The people who fired them do not give a shit because the damages do not come out of their pocket.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 06:45 AM (mpXpK)

682 I remember many years ago, before the internet was readily available, needing to deal with Dell from our home in Italy where we were stationed.

Very helpful, courteous and committed to doing everything necessary to make a bad situation into a good situation.

I guess everything changes over time.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 15, 2016 06:47 AM (J+eG2)

683 679 The ONLY thing I changed was their "suggested"
upgrade to Windows 10 Professional and that upgrade they should have on
the shelf.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2016 06:44 AM (sRFAL)

Well, you never know if that impacts how they "prep" a unit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 06:47 AM (mpXpK)

684 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2016 06:48 AM (pmSP4)

685 .but it was an off the shelf item and it is taking 2 weeks to
ship?????

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2016 06:39 AM (sRFAL)

You got the rustproofing, didn't you?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2016 06:49 AM (nIGPZ)

686 You got the rustproofing, didn't you?

He probably went the whole nine yards and got the interior ScotchGard as well.

Posted by: SD at December 15, 2016 06:50 AM (fiGNd)

687 It's about 35 here in DC. Damn windy too. On the SUBWAY OF DEATH going home. Assuming the train doesn't derail or get suck'd in a vortex, I should be home soon. Maybe.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 15, 2016 06:50 AM (BhJh0)

688 I can't wait until January when we are told the December was the warmest month it's ever been.

Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2016 06:50 AM (8ikIW)

689 You got the rustproofing, didn't you?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2016 06:49 AM (nIGPZ)

And the undercoating!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2016 06:50 AM (sRFAL)

690 He probably went the whole nine yards and got the interior ScotchGard as well.
Posted by: SD at December 15, 2016 06:50 AM (fiGNd)

Fuck I knew I forgot something.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2016 06:51 AM (sRFAL)

691 The story we got was that the round was eccentric, causing it to go off-course. We didn't know if that was the case - or somebody just really, really screwed up.

Posted by: SD at December 15, 2016 06:42 AM (fiGNd)

I would have to read any reports that might be available about the incident. Standard Policy though is that when a round goes out of an impact area though the immediate Command Structure Responsible is de-certified from the range until responsibility is identified.

The most common problem when a round does go out of the impact area, especially during that time frame, is when the FO is calling a FM and using corrections instead of azimuth and elevation for every round.

The Gunner was never notified that a correction was called off. Leading to a round going out of the impact area.

I'm just going to guess that's what happened here.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 15, 2016 06:52 AM (d76uN)

692 Now Ft. McCoy was a Army Reserve Base so what might have been issued to those training there might not have been the highest quality or might have been just to old to work correctly anymore.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 15, 2016 06:29 AM (d76uN)

Wait a minute... I think I might be recognizing a few things in this story. Was this during the Vietnam era? If so, I think I might be able to shed some light on the mystery of what happened to that barracks building, from a story my dad told me...

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 15, 2016 06:53 AM (J+mig)

693 Did you get the optional Gell-Mann compensation discriminator to offset the low-energy pion interactions from your x-ray equipment?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 06:54 AM (mpXpK)

694 688: and to ignore that glacier in your driveway.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 15, 2016 06:54 AM (BhJh0)

695 haha nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 15, 2016 06:54 AM (mpXpK)

696 Gee, thanks for your expressions of concern.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 15, 2016 06:55 AM (P8951)

697 It's about 35 here in DC. Damn windy too. On the SUBWAY OF DEATH going home. Assuming the train doesn't derail or get suck'd in a vortex, I should be home soon. Maybe.

Dayum. It's 37 in Dallas. Well, just north of.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2016 06:58 AM (CJRaf)

698 696 Gee, thanks for your expressions of concern.

We all just figured anybody hoity-toity enough to have all those ampersands didn't need any advice from the likes of us.

Your best bet is to go get one of those plug-in oil-filled radiant heaters.

Posted by: SD at December 15, 2016 07:00 AM (fiGNd)

699 Clippy with a Bag O DICKS?

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