Thursday Overnight Open Thread (12/15/16)

Quotes of The Day

Quote I

Go after a man's weakness, and never, ever, threaten unless you're going to follow through, because if you don't, the next time you won't be taken seriously. Roy M. Cohn US anti-Communist & lawyer (1927 - 1986)

The JEF and the red line comes to mind.


Quote II

We must always remember that America is a great nation today not because of what government did for people but because of what people did for themselves and for one another. Richard M. Nixon


Quote III

You may have to fight a battle more than once to win it. Margaret Thatcher


What did you do today? Did you spend the day herding cats? It's National Cat Herders Day. Cat herding and coblogging are similar.

Covered earlier today in Mr. Sefton's Morning Report was the anniversary of the best written document by man. The Bill of Rights turns 225 years old today.


In the year 2015 nearly 48 million people were affected by Alzheimer's Disease. In 2010, dementia resulted in about 486,000 deaths. Approximately 6% of the population who are age 65 or older are afflicted with Alzheimer's. It seems that everyone knows someone or some family that has an AD patient.

Hope is on the horizon that AD will be manageable in the near future.

Professor De Strooper, in an interview to mark his appointment, predicted it would be possible within a decade to stabilise or partially reverse Alzheimer’s disease - even if it proved impossible to cure.
‘We won’t be celebrating in 2025 that dementia is cured, but I hope that by then there will be groups of patients who can be treated in much the same way HIV/Aids is treated today,’ he said.

The ONT certainly hopes so, it is a cruel and unrelenting disease.

Drug overdoses now kill more Americans than guns. The intertwined tragedy -- rising death numbers and public indifference -- are growing, not shrinking. Is legalization the way to go? A surge on the war on drugs? Prohibition of certain legal opiates? The ONT does not have the answer. Although it is a subject worth discussion.

Historical comparisons are difficult, but also foreboding. No society long endures knowing escalation of preventable, intentional death of innocents -- right in its midst. To be clear: If we look the other way, we are also complicit in the crime. Edmund Burke said it, and worth memorizing: All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing. What to do? Start caring, learning, understanding and speaking up -- against this accelerating tragedy.


The Police Department of Lancashire, England has agreed to illegal drug testing booths.Talk about Protect & Serve.

The police department of Lancashire, a city in northwest England near Manchester, has come to an agreement with a local charity to operate drug-testing booths near dance clubs.

Drug takers will be able to test the purity of their cocaine or ecstasy in these walk-in booths, which will look like the RVs used in blood donation drives, without fear of legal reprisal.


Perhaps the Clinton Money Laundering Foundation can come to the resuce. Saudi woman arrested for tweeting without wearing Hefty bag.


When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns 3D printers. Australian gang busted with 3D printer.

"We've also seized a 3D printer which was used to manufacture some of those firearms, highlighting a significant risk to the community," Superintendent Amy Gledden told reporters on Sunday.

"It's relatively new technology and it's been tested in forensic areas in different police agencies and this is one time we've actually seized them in Victoria."


Tonight's Musical Interlude


Quite a few of the Moron Horde lives in snow country. What are your snow removal methods? Plow? Snow blower? Hoverboard and shovel? I'm hoping I can get the snow blower working before I need to invest in rope and remember these rules. Do you slip and slide in your boots? Science and winter boots. When it's really bad, your humble Cob puts on cleats.


8 reasons you must teach CBD your son to cook. Besides survival, he may have a coblogger job awaiting him someday.

Cooking is not trivial. Observe food stamp recipients’ tendency to buy junk food because they simply do not know their way around a kitchen. The young man who learns how to cook well will have mastered a valuable life skill. It doesn’t take much time or money—in the end it will save his family both.


The hypocrisy of the Obama administration just oozes. 3% of the eagle population is killed legally annually. You try killing just one. Let the ONT know how that works out for you. Per Wikipedia:

Criminal penalty

The criminal penalty stipulation was increased from a maximum fine of $500 and six months imprisonment to a maximum fine of $5,000 and one year's imprisonment. Furthermore, in the second case of second conviction, the penalty was increased to $10,000 fine and two years imprisonment. The maximum amount of a misdemeanor offense was increased $100,000 under the Criminal Fines and Improvement Act of 1987. In addition, $250,000 will be fined for an individual for a felony conviction. Respectively, $200,000 and $500,000 will be fined in case of an organization for a misdemeanor and felony conviction.[2]

Civil penalty

The civil penalty provision was added, stating anyone who takes, possess, transports, sells, barters, or purchases any dead or alive bald or golden eagles will be fined $5,000 for each violation. In addition, he or she who violates or disturbs any egg or nest will be fined under the civil penalty act. The act allowed the taking, possession, or transporting of the bald and golden eagles in areas where they were endangering wildlife and livestock.


Kids will be kids. You can be one too at The Group.


News clippings, loose change and recycled Christmas cards can be directed here.


Tonight's Runner up 2nd Place Genius Award Winner


The Genius Award Winner.


The Feel Good Story of The Day


Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Joy.

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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 10:03 PM




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1 MIS.HUM.!

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 09:59 PM (tHwdc)

2 No, I have not yet read the content!

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 10:00 PM (tHwdc)

3 Hooooooorde!!!!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil at December 15, 2016 10:00 PM (89UPP)

4 Wait....we're supposed to read the content???

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil at December 15, 2016 10:00 PM (89UPP)

5 Wait....we're supposed to read the content???

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil at December 15, 2016 10:00 PM (89UPP)

Yes, unless it contains carrots.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 10:01 PM (tHwdc)

6 hi all

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:03 PM (WGxp4)

7 Howdy, y'all!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:03 PM (EzgxV)

8 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at December 15, 2016 10:03 PM (ourPG)

9 Ha !!!!


Top 10 baby !

Posted by: Yo! at December 15, 2016 10:03 PM (ourPG)

10 Yo yo

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2016 10:04 PM (IqV8l)

11 Forget caliexit, it's time to turn CA into a giant insane asylum so the rest of us can live in peace without the madness spreading.


That said, another fantastic ont Mis Hum.

Posted by: Bete celebrating at December 15, 2016 10:05 PM (Ojki1)

12 Horde, wondering if anyone can help me with this...

Just purchased a new house that has 5 zone baseboard heating. They're controlled by circulating pumps and a system from the '90s. It has 5 different manual wheel thermostats from the '90s.

I was wondering if there was an affordable way to get all 5 zones controlled / monitored from a central location. Ideally, I'd have 5 individual thermostats but the one in my bed room (for example) would be able to see what the others were set at.

I know I could get 5 nest's or honeywells' redlinks and I think I could control them all from one app, but that seems like overkill.

I don't need to control anything from iphone, if it were cheaper, I'd rather just be able to look at one thermostat and see what the others are set to.

Any thoughts?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:05 PM (WGxp4)

13 Boogabooga.

Also, chicken chicken.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 10:05 PM (tHwdc)

14 Oh, look! It's an ONT.
Found it just now waiting for me.
But not yet a zillion comments, mon?
Maybe I should leave and come back later on?

Or just read the post...!

Posted by: mindful webworker is in da house at December 15, 2016 10:06 PM (5a8XA)

15 Okay, Horde, I have a problem. My 15 year old daughter has her first boyfriend. She isn't allowed to go out on a date yet, and all they are allowed to do is text and talk to each other at school. I am nervous because....teenagers. His teachers have told me that he is a fine young man, though. Parenting is hard and stuff!!

Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:06 PM (BEa9l)

16 Nice content, MisHum!!! Now off to chase the links I pulled....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:07 PM (EzgxV)

17 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 10:08 PM (IcT7t)

18 Jmel,

Your daughter. Intervention team. White windowless van. Convent.

Some assembly required. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 10:08 PM (u8kLQ)

19 This is such an Obama thing to do, threaten action against Russia for "hacks", and then jet off to Hawaii for vacay.

"Obama vows action against Russia for hacks."

http://tinyurl.com/hmmwgec

btw, is this a...another "red line"?

Posted by: Thrawn at December 15, 2016 10:08 PM (cC/ZB)

20 Borrowed from Emmie on the Eichenwald thread:

>> We put the cat to sleep today. Vet was very gentle
>> and sweet and sensitive. I can't believe how hard I
>> am taking it.

Oh, I can. Not a cat person, but I haven't lost a dog in fifty years without crying for a couple days.

Posted by: JEM at December 15, 2016 10:09 PM (TppKb)

21 Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:06 PM (BEa9l)

Invite him over, keep an eye on the little pervert while they spend some time together

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 10:09 PM (voOPb)

22 Okay, Horde, I have a problem. My 15 year old daughter has her first boyfriend. She isn't allowed to go out on a date yet, and all they are allowed to do is text and talk to each other at school. I am nervous because....teenagers. His teachers have told me that he is a fine young man, though. Parenting is hard and stuff!!

Sounds like you could use an Arizona vacation, and bring the young man with you. Careful, though, there's abandoned mineshafts all over out here.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 10:10 PM (IcT7t)

23 Invite him over, keep an eye on the little pervert while they spend some time together
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 10:09 PM (voOPb)

Be sure to be cleaning your shotgun casually while you talk to him.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:10 PM (WGxp4)

24 You may have to fight a battle more than once to win it. Margaret Thatcher

DERP. WAHT DAT MEAN? DERP

Posted by: Your Betters in the GOPe at December 15, 2016 10:10 PM (SkR14)

25 Leftism is a cruel, unrelenting disease too.

Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2016 10:10 PM (iMxBJ)

26 Delicious content.

I had to teach my college roommate to cook eggs, and other simple survival meals. He was 22 years old and never cooked!

Ironic that his dad worked for the Food and Agriculture Organization in Rome.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2016 10:11 PM (EZebt)

27 >> His teachers have told me that he is a fine young
>> man, though.

You're four years ahead of me.

He has a penis. On one hand, you can say 'Thank you Jesus!' On the other, think of you at 15, or 16, or 17, and be a bit afraid.

Posted by: JEM at December 15, 2016 10:11 PM (TppKb)

28 21 Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:06 PM (BEa9l)

Invite him over, keep an eye on the little pervert while they spend some time together
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 10:09 PM (voOPb)

There was a scene in Mel Gibson's "The Patriot" where Heath Ledger was sewn up in a sack by the mother of the girl he was courting before he could spend some time some time alone with her daughter.

Maybe this tradition should be updated for modern times?

Posted by: Thrawn at December 15, 2016 10:11 PM (cC/ZB)

29 ONT brought by Joy, huh?

Huh.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:12 PM (CRotO)

30 Quite a few of the Moron Horde lives in snow country. What are your snow removal methods? Plow? Snow blower?

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My kids. What, I'm not gonna do it. It's friggin cold out there! At least I bought shovels for them.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 15, 2016 10:12 PM (kTF2Z)

31 Hey, Mis Hum - where do you reside in Cheesehead Country? I happen to be in the Fox Valley myself, and word is we're going to get 12+ inches of global warming over the weekend.

I must be making offerings to the wrong gods. In a just world, we would get this during the week, so the plant could be shut for a day.

Packers-Bears game might be interesting on Sunday.

Posted by: The Neon Madman at December 15, 2016 10:12 PM (KSXRc)

32 I'm sure there's a connection between the fact that big pharma wrote Obama care and we are flooded with opiates while marijuana (as or more effective without fatal side effects) is still illegal narcotic. These things are pushed on our people.

Regarding snow removal, the key is to never allow it to get packed and get it off the concrete quickly to leverage our best friend in Colorado, the sun that shines nearly daily

Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 10:12 PM (LfmaH)

33 12 Horde, wondering if anyone can help me with this...

Just purchased a new house that has 5 zone baseboard heating. They're controlled by circulating pumps and a system from the '90s. It has 5 different manual wheel thermostats from the '90s.

I was wondering if there was an affordable way to get all 5 zones controlled / monitored from a central location. Ideally, I'd have 5 individual thermostats but the one in my bed room (for example) would be able to see what the others were set at.

I know I could get 5 nest's or honeywells' redlinks and I think I could control them all from one app, but that seems like overkill.

I don't need to control anything from iphone, if it were cheaper, I'd rather just be able to look at one thermostat and see what the others are set to.

Any thoughts?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:05 PM (WGxp4)



When you say "manual wheel thermostats", what precisely do you mean? Are they electronic at all? Can you pop the top and see wires?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:13 PM (EzgxV)

34 15 Okay, Horde, I have a problem. My 15 year old daughter has her first boyfriend. She isn't allowed to go out on a date yet, and all they are allowed to do is text and talk to each other at school. I am nervous because....teenagers. His teachers have told me that he is a fine young man, though. Parenting is hard and stuff!!
Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:06 PM (BEa9l)

So's the boyfriend.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:13 PM (0mRoj)

35 Konbanwa's y'all!

Posted by: Zettai Ryōiki at December 15, 2016 10:13 PM (kP16F)

36 Horde, I have a problem. My 15 year old daughter has her first boyfriend. She isn't allowed to go out on a date yet, and all they are allowed to do is text and talk to each other at school. I am nervous because....teenagers. His teachers have told me that he is a fine young man, though. Parenting is hard and stuff!!
Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:06 PM (BEa9l)




so how much of what you are nervous about is a result of what you did when you were a kid?



don't stomp on it too hard. you are better off giving her what seems to be a reasonable amount of leash instead of forbidding everything and having her revolt.

don't want her to wind up in court with her head shaved.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:13 PM (cPsPa)

37 Yup, grandma had dementia. Last time I saw her we took her to a Catholic service at the nursing home. She was out of it but fingered the Rosary beads, which she had done for over 70 years previous.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 10:14 PM (exyD+)

38 30 Quite a few of the Moron Horde lives in snow country. What are your snow removal methods? Plow? Snow blower?

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My kids. What, I'm not gonna do it. It's friggin cold out there! At least I bought shovels for them.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 15, 2016 10:12 PM (kTF2Z)

Oh, to that point -- snow blower that's older than me and a good snow shovel.

A good snow shovel is well worth the cost. I think mine cost $40. I've had it for 6-7 years now, it's gone through some bad winters and is still going strong. Never buy a shovel with the stupid metal edge on it, get a hard plastic one with a good "scoop" on it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:14 PM (WGxp4)

39 Hey everybody.

Just when I thought I was done with Jeffrey Wells, he goes... SEMI-RATIONAL on me. Good f***kin' grief!!!

http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2016/12/95402/#more-95402

So it's official, his "hinterland bumblefuck" stuff is him trolling for clicks from (justifiably) outraged conservatives. Or he's bipolar. Or both.

Money quote below. (He's writing about the two new films, Heck Or High Water and Patriots Day. Emphasis is mine.)

"I'm just saying that there's a real acknowledgment to be made about Hell or High Water and Patriots Day being a little more connected to the real-world American culture out there than other films in the Best Picture realm, and that perhaps it should be acknowledged within our liberal bubble that this is the kind of stuff that really matters to hinterland types, and should also matter to the rest of us."

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 10:14 PM (u8kLQ)

40 18

This is so hard because I can't protect her from broken hearts and silly young boys. Watching her grow up is so, so hard.

Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:14 PM (BEa9l)

41 Kitchen kitchen kitchen kitchen
kitchen kitchen kitchen
kitchen kitchen kitchen
kitchen kitchen kitchen
kitchen kitchen kitchen
kitchen kitchen kitchen


Hey is this funny yet?
Evening all.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 15, 2016 10:14 PM (rB/gm)

42 Rogue One was awesome. That's all I'm gonna say.

Posted by: CDR M at December 15, 2016 10:14 PM (9I51B)

43 Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Joy.


*****


Why is that man pushing his father off the cliff in a child's wagon just at the instant he is giving birth to his grandson?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2016 10:14 PM (wPiJc)

44 (I want to note, I *am* reading Wells less often... and laughing at him a lot more, instead of getting angry...)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 10:15 PM (u8kLQ)

45 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil


The NYT review was hilarious because Disney apparently had a lot of "no spoilers" restrictions.

I'll get my spoilers from No. 1 Son when I pick him up in an hour. Unless I hear from whatshername first.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 15, 2016 10:15 PM (mgbwf)

46 Oh, and sometimes I have to send my youngest son up on the roof to brush snow off of the satellite dish. I call him my snow monkey.

Here, hold my hot cocoa and watch this.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 15, 2016 10:15 PM (kTF2Z)

47 You try killing just one. Let the ONT know how that works out for you.

Hell, just pick up a feather and see what happens.

Posted by: no good deed at December 15, 2016 10:15 PM (hJamr)

48 My first Department Head was an "Acting" one, and he described managing academics as like herding cats, and he said the way is not to herd them per se, but to coax them with bowls of milk.

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 10:15 PM (emDjj)

49 When you say "manual wheel thermostats", what precisely do you mean? Are they electronic at all? Can you pop the top and see wires?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:13 PM (EzgxV)

I mean, they're six wire, but they're the, you know, analogue ones. Where you turn a wheel from like 45-90 to set the temperature. The rotary phones of thermostats, if you will.

As opposed to a touch screen one that lights up.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:15 PM (WGxp4)

50 34 15 Okay, Horde, I have a problem. My 15 year old daughter has her first boyfriend. She isn't allowed to go out on a date yet, and all they are allowed to do is text and talk to each other at school. I am nervous because....teenagers. His teachers have told me that he is a fine young man, though. Parenting is hard and stuff!!
Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:06 PM (BEa9l)

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Take the BF to the range, and instill in him that if ANYTHING happens to your daughter, he will be taking the place of the paper target.

Worked for me.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:15 PM (CRotO)

51 So's the boyfriend.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:13 PM (0mRoj)



*chokes on cookie*

That just ain't right.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil at December 15, 2016 10:15 PM (89UPP)

52 When you say "manual wheel thermostats", what precisely do you mean?

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Set back thermostat. Not digital.

I think he's onbthe rightvtrack with the redlinks.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2016 10:16 PM (JmjOe)

53 21 Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:06 PM (BEa9l)

Invite him over, keep an eye on the little pervert while they spend some time together

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 10:09 PM (voOPb)


^^^ This. You want to observe them together for a while.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:16 PM (EzgxV)

54 Jmel the kids today can do EVERYTHING through modern messaging apps like swap pics and vids so you may want to limit phone time I suppose unless you are ok with that ...

It's why they don't want cars anymore - they have FaceTime or Skype and privacy ...

Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 10:16 PM (LfmaH)

55 Quite a few of the Moron Horde lives in snow country. What are your snow removal methods? Plow? Snow blower?

====

I honestly don't remember the last time I shoveled snow. Probably 1993 in Syracuse NY. Heavy heavy Lake Effect snow.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (EZebt)

56 Thanks for all the good links, MisHum. Love the feel good story.

And boy, would I love to see Alzheimer's cured, but I'll be happy for the time being with getting it stabilized.

Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (sBOL1)

57 Alzheimer's is a cruel and horrible disease for both the patient and his/her loved ones. Fuck Alzheimer's.

Posted by: Usntakim at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (hMqvx)

58 Hey cooth.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (CRotO)

59 Old fashioned coal shovel is good for snow.

Posted by: davidt at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (XoldI)

60 31 Hey, Mis Hum - where do you reside in Cheesehead Country? I happen to be in the Fox Valley myself, and word is we're going to get 12+ inches of global warming over the weekend.

I must be making offerings to the wrong gods. In a just world, we would get this during the week, so the plant could be shut for a day.

Packers-Bears game might be interesting on Sunday.
Posted by: The Neon Madman at December 15, 2016 10:12 PM (KSXRc

My guess a ticket could be reasonably purchased.

I grew up in the Valley. Now I live in NW WI.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (voOPb)

61 You try killing just one. Let the ONT know how that works out for you. Per Wikipedia:

Compare the number of conservatives that would want to kill one to the number of leftists that excuse the bird-choppers.

... HEY FOXNEWS!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (SkR14)

62 57 Alzheimer's is a cruel and horrible disease for both the patient and his/her loved ones. Fuck Alzheimer's.
Posted by: Usntakim at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (hMqvx)

^This.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (0mRoj)

63 The NYT review was hilarious because Disney apparently had a lot of "no spoilers" restrictions.

I'll get my spoilers from No. 1 Son when I pick him up in an hour. Unless I hear from whatshername first.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 15, 2016 10:15 PM (mgbwf)



I talked to whatshername a bit ago. We both felt basically the same about it. I think she enjoyed it a bit more than me.

I would rank it 5th. Nowhere near the original 3. Not quite up to par with TFA. Still well ahead of the prequel slop Lucas foisted on us.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (89UPP)

64 Regarding snow removal, the key is to never allow it to get packed and get it off the concrete quickly to leverage our best friend in Colorado, the sun that shines nearly daily
Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 10:12 PM (LfmaH)

THAT is a good point.

I get pissed if anyone even walks on the snow before I shovel / snow blow it. I shovel / snowblow early and often, and make sure I clear the ENTIRE surface (asphalt or my brick sidewalk) + a few inches over so that it gets maximum sun and the snow melt can disappear in to the ground instead of covering my driveway / walkway with water that will refreeze at night

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (WGxp4)

65 36

Okay, I was a naughty bunny in high school. I am nervous about the fact that I will pay for it!!!

Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (BEa9l)

66 Horde, wondering if anyone can help me with this...

Just purchased a new house that has 5 zone baseboard heating. They're controlled by circulating pumps and a system from the '90s. It has 5 different manual wheel thermostats from the '90s.

I was wondering if there was an affordable way to get all 5 zones controlled / monitored from a central location. Ideally, I'd have 5 individual thermostats but the one in my bed room (for example) would be able to see what the others were set at.

I know I could get 5 nest's or honeywells' redlinks and I think I could control them all from one app, but that seems like overkill.

I don't need to control anything from iphone, if it were cheaper, I'd rather just be able to look at one thermostat and see what the others are set to.

Any thoughts?


RasPi's, mini touchscreens, maybe some optocouplers or relays.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 10:18 PM (IcT7t)

67 I miss Teena Marie...

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:18 PM (CRotO)

68 If you live where the snow is like wet cement, cooking spray on your shovel works wonders.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 10:18 PM (exyD+)

69
Old fashioned grain scoop makes the best snow shovel.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2016 10:19 PM (JmjOe)

70 There was a scene in Mel Gibson's "The Patriot" where Heath Ledger was sewn up in a sack by the mother of the girl he was courting before he could spend some time some time alone with her daughter.

Maybe this tradition should be updated for modern times?
Posted by: Thrawn at December 15, 2016 10:11 PM (cC/ZB)



the tradition has been updated for modern times.

http://tinyurl.com/mdy9l97

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:19 PM (cPsPa)

71 One of my FB friends posted a video of Harry Reid today, lying his head off about why Hillary lost. ("Wikileaks!! Comey!!")

My response was: A year from now, Reid will be:

(a) sitting all alone in some dusty complex in Searchlight

(b) shitting his pants all night long, sitting in his own feces

(c) hoping hell isn't as bad as people say it is.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 10:19 PM (u8kLQ)

72 oops,



tiny url http://tinyurl.com/mdy9l97 is not appropriate for work without headphones.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:20 PM (cPsPa)

73 Set back thermostat. Not digital.

I think he's onbthe rightvtrack with the redlinks.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2016 10:16 PM (JmjOe)

Redlink seems... expensive. Do you think I should spend more time looking in to that though?

I also really don't need to monitor the thermostats from anywhere on the planet on my iphone. I mean I guess theres a "cool" factor, but I was hoping there was some like... 10 year old technology that could do what I want and not cost me somewhere between an assload and a fuckton.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:20 PM (WGxp4)

74 Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:06 PM (BEa9l)

you monitoring her phone? snapchat? Instagram? etc. ?

my 13yo niece got asked for nudes just last month and she doesn't even have a boyfriend

Posted by: Origional Jake at December 15, 2016 10:20 PM (jrFgU)

75
Quote I : Don't make threats, because one day, someone will require that you back up those words.

Cooking : I don't really know how to cook. I can heat up my food just fine, and sometimes, I eat it cold.

Posted by: The Unknown Commentator at December 15, 2016 10:20 PM (yfnoz)

76 Quote I : Don't make threats, because one day, someone will require that you back up those words.

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Not a problem.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:21 PM (CRotO)

77 If teens wanna fuck, they're gonna fuck. You scaring the kid is nothing when his dick is waiving around in the open and she's unbuttoning things.

Better off is getting to know him. You want to date my daughter? Your first few dates can be dinner with us. Then dinner and a movie. All out our house. Oh and we'll be inviting your parents over for at least one of the meals. I will have a decent idea on what kind of kid you are before I let you walk out the door with my daughter's life and virginity in your hands. So to speak.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil at December 15, 2016 10:22 PM (89UPP)

78 Posted by: Origional Jake at December 15, 2016 10:20 PM (jrFgU)



So glad I'm not a teenager these days.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 10:22 PM (exyD+)

79 There was a scene in Mel Gibson's "The Patriot" where Heath Ledger was sewn up in a sack by the mother of the girl he was courting before he could spend some time some time alone with her daughter.

Maybe this tradition should be updated for modern times?
Posted by: Thrawn


Sure. Bring back apprenticeships and accountability.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 15, 2016 10:22 PM (SkR14)

80 Oh, you don't want to get caught with a dead eagle or killing one for that matter.

Hell, even a fucking feather will get you in Dutch.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 10:22 PM (UD0Gq)

81 74
She shows me her texts between the two of them. He has told her that I make him nervous. Good!!

Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:23 PM (BEa9l)

82 That is good Jmel.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:23 PM (CRotO)

83 Alzheimer's took my father.

He'd had a good life, outlived all of his generation basically, but it ended at 92 after a long, cruel 8 year goodbye.

With that said, worse in my view would be 8 years of strong mind and failed body.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 15, 2016 10:23 PM (rB/gm)

84 >>>0 year old technology that could do what I want and not cost me somewhere between an assload and a fuckton.

I like that description

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 10:23 PM (voOPb)

85 There was a scene in Mel Gibson's "The Patriot" where Heath Ledger was sewn up in a sack by the mother of the girl he was courting before he could spend some time some time alone with her daughter.

Bundling. It was a real thing, although I don't know how widespread it really was.

By the way, Kurt Eichenwald was on Tucker Carlson and he put on the most cringeworthy display of drug-fueled filibustering and desperation I've ever seen. The guy is one buckle shy of a full strait jacket.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 10:23 PM (39g3+)

86 Airports get permits to kill eagles all the time. My local one did just a few years ago. And they were Bald Eagles, to boot. I don't even think they waited for the Eagles to enter the airport space - just went to their known nest site.

It's for safety. And the children.

Posted by: Chi at December 15, 2016 10:24 PM (ZGag7)

87 49 When you say "manual wheel thermostats", what precisely do you mean? Are they electronic at all? Can you pop the top and see wires?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:13 PM (EzgxV)

I mean, they're six wire, but they're the, you know, analogue ones. Where you turn a wheel from like 45-90 to set the temperature. The rotary phones of thermostats, if you will.

As opposed to a touch screen one that lights up.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:15 PM (WGxp4)



I'd be thinking something Arduino or Raspberry Pi-based. While there are many fairly simple ways of getting temperature information shuttled around, the only way I figure you'd get the thermostat setting from one place to another would be digitally. Current RaspPi's already have Wi-Fi on board and run $35.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:24 PM (EzgxV)

88 Sorry "naughty bunny" is a trigger for me - especially with a Brit accent ... I'll be in my bunk ...

Also, I am losing my father to Demetria it's sad seeing the light fade - he was always so bright and clever and that man is gone now although he's still managing. Just trying to spend time with him while I can now ...

Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 10:24 PM (LfmaH)

89 Yay, MisHum! Thanks for the ONT!

Unfortunately, I can't stick around.

Hope everyone is having a blessed Advent season.

Posted by: Emmie at December 15, 2016 10:24 PM (xVuS6)

90 What are your snow removal methods?

Ariens.

I'm getting too old for a walk behind. I need a rider. The exercise is probably keeping me alive.

Posted by: The Unknown Commentator at December 15, 2016 10:24 PM (yfnoz)

91 65 36

Okay, I was a naughty bunny in high school. I am nervous about the fact that I will pay for it!!!
Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (BEa9l)


You do know about the mother's curse?

"May you have a son/daughter who is just like you."

Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (VnCI9)

92 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:20 PM (WGxp4

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Not that Im aware of. For five zones, on a budget, your prolly looking at 600 just for the thermostats alone.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (JmjOe)

93 In the year 2015 nearly 48 million people were affected by Alzheimer's Disease. In 2010, dementia resulted in about 486,000 deaths. Approximately 6% of the population who are age 65 or older are afflicted with Alzheimer's. It seems that everyone knows someone or some family that has an AD patient.

My own mother is afflicted with Alzheimer's. Every day is a challenge and every day a little of what she was dies off.

Day at a time, some days are good, some are bad. Biggest problem now is that she doesn't recognize her own house and often wants me to "take her home"


Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (Ya7zs)

94 55 Quite a few of the Moron Horde lives in snow country. What are your snow removal methods? Plow? Snow blower?

====

I honestly don't remember the last time I shoveled snow. Probably 1993 in Syracuse NY. Heavy heavy Lake Effect snow.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (EZebt)


--In Canada there are scoops (I bought mine at RONA, the Canadian Lowe's). You push them along until they fill up with snow, then dump.

The last winter I had a house in Winterpeg neighbo(u)r hood boys rang my door and offered to shovel my driveway for me, and I did not heistate to hire them.

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (emDjj)

95 Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:23 PM (BEa9l)



Excellent!

Posted by: mr. burns at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (exyD+)

96 The war on drugs clearly isn't working so the answer is obvious: escalate the war, suspend the 4th and 5th amendments for drugs, and make all possession a capital crime.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (0mRoj)

97 Snowblower and a shovel.

Got a foot of the fluffy white variety, today.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (UD0Gq)

98 You do know about the mother's curse?

"May you have a son/daughter who is just like you."
Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (VnCI9)

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Oh yeah...boy, do I know that curse.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (CRotO)

99 is Jmel a moron or moronette?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (cPsPa)

100 What are your snow removal methods?

Move somewhere it doesn't snow.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 10:26 PM (IcT7t)

101 Posted by: The Unknown Commentator
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Are you typing with a paper bag on your head?

Posted by: Chi at December 15, 2016 10:26 PM (ZGag7)

102 31 HI neighbor. I have 2 sick days left this year and only 3 1/2 days of work left til '17.

Wonder how my boss would react to me using them on Fri and Sat.

Posted by: Bete celebrating at December 15, 2016 10:26 PM (Ojki1)

103 Great ONT , Mis Hum!

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 15, 2016 10:26 PM (Om16U)

104 Snowblower and a shovel.

Got a foot of the fluffy white variety, today.
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (UD0Gq)




doorman

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:26 PM (cPsPa)

105 58 Hey cooth.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:17 PM (CRotO)



Howdy, howdy!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:26 PM (EzgxV)

106 32 I'm sure there's a connection between the fact that big pharma wrote Obama care and we are flooded with opiates while marijuana (as or more effective without fatal side effects) is still illegal narcotic. These things are pushed on our people.

Regarding snow removal, the key is to never allow it to get packed and get it off the concrete quickly to leverage our best friend in Colorado, the sun that shines nearly daily
Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 10:12 PM (LfmaH)

---------------------------------------------------

"National Health Care" = Opium War on Poor White People

To quote Dr. Drew, who probably was quoting conventional medical wisdom:

"Doctors can do 3 things: Drug, Cut, or Offer a Relationship"

Accountants (whether private insurance or government) obviously like easily the quantifiable measures- Drugging and Cutting. The savvy health care consumer looks for the latter.

Posted by: Oschisms at December 15, 2016 10:26 PM (ZsN9X)

107 67 I miss Teena Marie...
Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:18 PM (CRotO)

--Did she pass away?!?!

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 10:26 PM (emDjj)

108 Messaging apps like kik whatsapp even iMessage are easily downloaded onto smartphones or already there - even Facebook has live video now

Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 10:26 PM (LfmaH)

109 My aunt has alzheimers, just was diagnosed. She's been getting increasingly odd and confused, forgetful. Its awful to see, she always was so outgoing and bright and energetic. Having a pretty weak body and a pretty strong mind, that holds a particular horror for me.

Because deep down I fear their mind is fine in there somewhere, beating against the walls of dementia as they close in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 10:27 PM (39g3+)

110 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:20 PM (WGxp4)

I think the cheapest way is to get five internet connected thermostats. they are more than $100 each though.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2016 10:27 PM (42Mgr)

111 regarding snow removal, buy a house with a driveway on the south side.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:27 PM (cPsPa)

112 Day at a time, some days are good, some are bad. Biggest problem now is that she doesn't recognize her own house and often wants me to "take her home"


Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (Ya7zs)

That's heartbreaking stuff. I'm sorry about your mother. I lost an elderly relative to Alzheimer's. It really is a terrible disease.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:27 PM (0mRoj)

113 Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809438713684041728

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809438796685123584

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809438918550716416

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809439024268115968

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809439212479057920

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2016 10:27 PM (Ya7zs)

114 >>doorman


Awesome Seinfeld.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 10:27 PM (UD0Gq)

115 A while ago, logprof.

December 26, 2010

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:27 PM (CRotO)

116 Not a cat person, but I haven't lost a dog in fifty years without crying for a couple days.

Posted by: JEM at December 15, 2016 10:09 PM (TppKb)


Yeah. The furry critters sure become a part of our lives.

Posted by: Emmie at December 15, 2016 10:27 PM (xVuS6)

117 Teena left us in 2010.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 10:27 PM (u8kLQ)

118 71: all of the above. maybe the clownfucker will expire in his bathtub, surrounded by floaters.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 10:28 PM (KP5rU)

119 Awesome Seinfeld.
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 10:27 PM (UD0Gq)




yep

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:28 PM (cPsPa)

120 I live in Michigan. We get a lot of snow. My snowremoval methods:
1. Hire a snowplow service for the driveway.
2. For the walkways, wait until the first blizzard of December to try to start the snowblower. It never starts after sitting for 8 months.
3. Take the snowblower to the hardware store for a tune-up where they tell you that they are behind because everyone else waited until the last minute like you did so it will take 3 to 4 weeks.
4. Shovel the walkways by hand, including when you get 4 straight days of snowfall with an accumulation of at least 2 feet.
5. Sometime in January go pick up your snowblower which now starts like a charm.
6. Tell yourself that next year you will check your snowblower right after Halloween.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 10:28 PM (+lVUW)

121 Not a one of you fuckers has asked Jmel for pics yet? (assuming female. Otherwise, run screaming.) Slackers, all of you.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil at December 15, 2016 10:28 PM (89UPP)

122 Are you typing with a paper bag on your head?

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Ok, I didn't like that sock puppet anyway.

Posted by: The Righteous Anonymity of the Internet at December 15, 2016 10:29 PM (yfnoz)

123 My fil died from Alzheimer's. Looking back it started before I even met him. He was 62. My wife and kids will never be the same. I only knew him for 9 years. My mil is still bitter 14 years later. She never really forgave him for leaving so soon and for having to watch him slowly fade away.

Posted by: Usntakim at December 15, 2016 10:29 PM (hMqvx)

124 More Ginger Thursday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809439331861598209

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809439484660121601

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809439576989245440

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/809439668253130753

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2016 10:29 PM (Ya7zs)

125 106 exactly

Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 10:29 PM (LfmaH)

126 Because deep down I fear their mind is fine in there somewhere, beating against the walls of dementia as they close in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 10:27 PM (39g3+)


That's the way I felt with my Mom. Frightening situation!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 15, 2016 10:29 PM (wCEn4)

127 79 There was a scene in Mel Gibson's "The Patriot" where Heath Ledger was sewn up in a sack by the mother of the girl he was courting before he could spend some time some time alone with her daughter.

Maybe this tradition should be updated for modern times?
Posted by: Thrawn

Sure. Bring back apprenticeships and accountability.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 15, 2016 10:22 PM (SkR14)

The Puritans used to have something called a "bundling board." They recognized it was good for courting couples to have some privacy and intimacy, but didn't want any illegitimate babies, so their solution was to let the young couple share a bed (both remained clothed) with a board separating them, so they could talk and get to know each other without getting too cozy. (Remember he couldn't ask her out to go out for a movie and drinks back then.)

The Bay Colony Puritans had the highest birthrate in the Western world for a while in the late 1600's, so once they got to share a bed without a board, they really went at it.

The Puritans weren't "puritanical" about sex after marriage. The Quakers were actually the prudish ones.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 15, 2016 10:32 PM (P8951)

128 Invite him over, keep an eye on the little pervert while they spend some time together



Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 10:09 PM (voOPb)





^^^ This. You want to observe them together for a while.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:16 PM (EzgxV)

Mr. Deplorable could always tell if the guy had the proper respect and appreciation of his daughter by watching how he behaved with her.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 10:32 PM (tHwdc)

129 "My own mother is afflicted with Alzheimer's. Every day is a challenge and every day a little of what she was dies off.

Day at a time, some days are good, some are bad. Biggest problem now is that she doesn't recognize her own house and often wants me to "take her home"
"

-Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (Ya7zs)

Dear Lord, I ask of you to find solace and comfort for our humbled brethren. Allow him the strength to carry out Your Will.

May Your light shine upon him and find him well.

In Jesus' name, I pray.

-Amen

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 10:32 PM (6gk0M)

130 Before I settled down to read tonight's ONT, I had to finish getting caught up on Michelle's Mirror, which I had been neglecting since Nov 11.

Did you know "our" creeper got a whole post of congratulations there for her move here to Oklahoma? AoSHQ didn't. (Guess she's not so much "our" creeper.)

Heh.. can you imagine if Ace did a post every time one of the ginormous horde of Morons changed residence or got a job or got married or had a kid or grandkid?

Posted by: mindful webworker is an unlikely moniker to be copied at December 15, 2016 10:32 PM (5a8XA)

131 Obviously, the answer to burgeoning opiate addiction is to fight a war then cede Hong Kong in perpetuity to the drug suppliers.

Posted by: Bigby's Pinky at December 15, 2016 10:33 PM (U0lQa)

132 Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 10:28

I hardly used mine last winter.
Didn't take it in
It starts but dies after 10-30 seconds
I'm pissed

Boatload of snow coming this weekend

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 10:33 PM (voOPb)

133 Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31 PM (S2EVS)

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*Waves hand*

This is not the thread you are looking for

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2016 10:33 PM (JmjOe)

134 Get a Yahoo thermostat, comrade!

Posted by: Hacky McHackerface at December 15, 2016 10:33 PM (IqV8l)

135 Mr. Deplorable could always tell if the guy had the proper respect and appreciation of his daughter by watching how he behaved with her.
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 10:32 PM (tHwdc)



you are underestimating how well behaved people can be.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:33 PM (cPsPa)

136 115 A while ago, logprof.

December 26, 2010
Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:27 PM (CRotO)

--Well damn. I wonder if it was even mentioned in the HQ, but then it was Christmastime and I was visiting my folks and not online much so I would have not caught it anyway.

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 10:33 PM (emDjj)

137 The Puritans weren't "puritanical" about sex after marriage. The Quakers were actually the prudish ones.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersandsand so there at December 15, 2016 10:32 PM (P8951)

And the Shakers were the abstinent ones.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 10:33 PM (tHwdc)

138 Wow.

Just saw that Tucker Carlson interview with Kurt Eichenwald in the thread below.

Eichenwald came off as mentally ill IMHO.

And the notebook he kept dragging out...hilarious!

He reminds me of a guy I worked on years ago who had a thing about the Rothchilds.

He used to carry around a bunch of brochures (some handmade(!)) that he would threaten to read from when you didn't believe him or questioned a conclusion he came.

Nutso Rothschild guy should've been a Newsweek reporter. He'd've been better than this clown.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2016 10:34 PM (9q7Dl)

139 134 Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31 PM (S2EVS)

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Bye.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:34 PM (CRotO)

140 We have a flouncer!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:34 PM (0mRoj)

141 65 Saw a t shirt tonight like this "I am going to he'll in every religion"

Posted by: Bete celebrating at December 15, 2016 10:34 PM (Ojki1)

142 This is gonna get interesting!

Posted by: Ray, just Ray at December 15, 2016 10:34 PM (XFS85)

143 my mother had dementia, it sucked to witness that. unbelievable what happens to a persons mind and health. would not wish it on anybody.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 10:34 PM (KP5rU)

144 >>Not a one of you fuckers has asked Jmel for pics yet?


Of what?

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 10:34 PM (UD0Gq)

145 what is this "snow" all y'all are talking about?

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 10:34 PM (nKLZ2)

146 My own mother is afflicted with Alzheimer's. Every day is a challenge and every day a little of what she was dies off.



Day at a time, some days are good, some are bad. Biggest problem now
is that she doesn't recognize her own house and often wants me to "take
her home"







Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2016 10:25 PM (Ya7zs)


My grandma went through the same thing; she wanted to go home to where she grew up with her mom and dad.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 10:35 PM (exyD+)

147 you are underestimating how well behaved people can be.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:33 PM (cPsPa)

Nope - you are underestimating about how perceptive Mr. Deplorable was.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 10:35 PM (tHwdc)

148 What does each thermostat control? You don't have 5 heaters do you?

Just wondering if there is a way to get information at the central point which I assume is the heater.

PS I know nothing about heating or zones.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 15, 2016 10:35 PM (Om16U)

149 146 what is this "snow" all y'all are talking about?
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 10:34 PM (nKLZ2)

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*shrugs*

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:35 PM (CRotO)

150 Fuck off and fuck every uncharitble commenter who is in lockstep in cowardly anonymity with you.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31 PM (S2EVS)

That's rich...accusing Ace and anonymous commenters of cowardice when you are also anonymous.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2016 10:35 PM (42Mgr)

151 Okay, Horde, I have a problem. My 15 year old daughter has her first boyfriend. She isn't allowed to go out on a date yet, and all they are allowed to do is text and talk to each other at school. I am nervous because....teenagers. His teachers have told me that he is a fine young man, though. Parenting is hard and stuff!!

Posted by: Jmel at December 15, 2016 10:06 PM (BEa9l)

Fine young men get raging hard-ons too.

Just sayin'.

Evening all.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 15, 2016 10:35 PM (D2vc1)

152 8 reasons you must teach CBD your son to cook. Besides survival, he may have a coblogger job awaiting him someday.


When I was in junior high we had Home Ec. for both boys and girls. They taught you basics of cooking including following a recipe, making a shopping list, measuring, and so on.

It isn't just a matter of eating junk food, it's a matter of throwing money away. You can buy a loaf of bread, a dozen, eggs, a bag of potatoes, a couple packages of meat, some vegetables, and some fruit and eat very well.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 10:36 PM (+lVUW)

153 Nope - you are underestimating about how perceptive Mr. Deplorable was.
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 10:35 PM (tHwdc)




you've never been a guy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:36 PM (cPsPa)

154 That's rich...accusing Ace and anonymous commenters of cowardice when you are also anonymous.

I read the whole thing, self awareness isn't his strong suit.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 10:36 PM (IcT7t)

155 Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31 PM (S2EVS)

I do think you will be so much happier elsewhere, bless your heart!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 15, 2016 10:36 PM (wCEn4)

156 Hey all.

You know Hillary Clinton will never be president of the US.

Now what's the vote on she actually killed people? My wife is reading a book and is convinced she has done so.

Posted by: Farmer at December 15, 2016 10:37 PM (o/90i)

157 "never threaten unless you follow through or you'll never be taken seriously"

how many campaign assertions has trump reneged on? not limited to lock her up.

in moscow, idaho, we have a saying, "trust but verify". i'll believe trump when i see it.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 15, 2016 10:37 PM (WTSFk)

158 Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31 PM (S2EVS)




Hmmmm.....no Tiki Room quotes......

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:37 PM (EzgxV)

159 chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,

refreshing last nights chicken

Posted by: Origional Jake at December 15, 2016 10:37 PM (jrFgU)

160 OT in the 'Peg

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 10:37 PM (emDjj)

161 Who does a flounce when ave isn't around?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 15, 2016 10:37 PM (Om16U)

162 "The young man who learns how to cook well will have
mastered a valuable life skill."

I led a sheltered, liberal-arts-prep-school life when young. It wasn't until I got to college that I realized, hey! I have to wash my own damn clothes! Fortunately, in those pre-Internet days, I was able to track down how-to... on the back of a box of Tide.

But learning to feed myself waited until I departed college for a year's work on my own. l bought a small unit with a stove-top and a toaster-griddle, which I still have somewhere around here, I think, forty-four years later. I was a master of making soup and toast, and eventually got the hang of rice and a few veggies. Cooking meat, though, I left to the local fast-food restaurants.

I might still be a starved, iggerent fool in the kitchen if Milady the Master Chef hadn't come to save me.

By gosh, all of our kids knew how to cook before they left home. And wash their clothes.

Posted by: mindful webworker the inimitable at December 15, 2016 10:37 PM (5a8XA)

163 Fuck off and fuck every uncharitble commenter who is in lockstep in cowardly anonymity with you.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31 PM (S2EVS)

Would you care to name names of those whom you say are in "lockstep in cowardly anonymity with you."
or would you like to hide behind a anonymous insult?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 15, 2016 10:37 PM (d76uN)

164 At the end of the winter, I let my snowblower run until it is out of gas. Usually in the morning on a nice warm spring day. Then I fill the tank with (No Ethanol) Snowmobile Fuel and add the required amount of StaBil.

Starts right up the morning of the first winter snow.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 10:38 PM (UD0Gq)

165 Well then, I threw my vote away to claim the moral high ground and I'm happy to remain there while being quite pleased I was so wrong about Trump. People need to stop fghting over their own egos (who was right or wrong) and move onto the centrist effective train lol ...

127, If your OWN thoughts aren't strong enough to handle some proxy razzing from Ace, you've got work to do ...

Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 10:38 PM (LfmaH)

166 Anyone catch Assange on Hannity?

The Russians Did Not give Wikileaks the emails.

Second look at Seth Rich?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 15, 2016 10:38 PM (PY9jH)

167 G'night all!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 15, 2016 10:38 PM (wCEn4)

168 ... trump has very little credibility with me because of all the stuff he says and threatens that he clearly doesn't mean.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 15, 2016 10:39 PM (WTSFk)

169 Neighbor bought a used snowblower. It ran great that fall when he tested it, and handled the first snow just fine.

Second snow was ok, third snowstorm he couldn't get it to start unless it was inside. Even then it was a chore.

Turns out that a 4 stroke engine doesn't like 2 stroke fuel.

Posted by: Halfwise at December 15, 2016 10:39 PM (rB/gm)

170 So here is probably my last post ever on AoSHQ...
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31

Your concern is
[ ] Noted
[ ] Not-Noted
[X] Chicken

Posted by: Chuck C at December 15, 2016 10:39 PM (h99GH)

171 I wish ace was in lock step with us - took quite a while to finally drag him to the deplorable side for good.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 15, 2016 10:39 PM (Om16U)

172 164 Fuck off and fuck every uncharitble commenter who is in lockstep in cowardly anonymity with you.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31 PM (S2EVS)

Would you care to name names of those whom you say are in "lockstep in cowardly anonymity with you."
or would you like to hide behind a anonymous insult?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 15, 2016 10:37 PM (d76uN)

---

Nah, that would take some balls, which the flouncing ass does not have.

Much easier to come in here, insult, then flounce the fuck out.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:39 PM (CRotO)

173 G'Night, Hrothgar.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 10:40 PM (6gk0M)

174 1991 White Snow Boss 850... Starts on the first pull -- two pulls if I've left it outside! Also has an electric starter, but I've never used it... Put new tyres and duct tape on it a few years ago...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 15, 2016 10:40 PM (kP16F)

175 I'd be thinking something Arduino or Raspberry Pi-based. While there are many fairly simple ways of getting temperature information shuttled around, the only way I figure you'd get the thermostat setting from one place to another would be digitally. Current RaspPi's already have Wi-Fi on board and run $35.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:24 PM (EzgxV)

Yeah? So I'd have to build out each individual thermostat (I'm sure a redditor has posted instructions), join them to an off-line wifi network, then could hook up touch screens to control them?

Hmmm... might not be a bad idea I guess

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:40 PM (WGxp4)

176 I do think you will be so much happier elsewhere,

---

Uh, no. Unhappy people are unhappy every where they go. Trust me, on this I am an expert.

If you can't believe someone on the internet, who can you believe?

Posted by: The Righteous Anonymity of the Internet at December 15, 2016 10:40 PM (yfnoz)

177 When I was in junior high we had Home Ec. for both boys and girls.

My husband took Home Ec. in high school so he could eat extra during the school day. I never took it, and I was always busy after school with sports. So, I wasn't home when my mother cooked. I just came home to eat. Consequently, I didn't start cooking until I was 28. I plan on having the kids help cook on the weekends to get their feet wet. They definitely need to learn how.

Posted by: no good deed at December 15, 2016 10:40 PM (hJamr)

178 162 Who does a flounce when ave isn't around?
Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 15, 2016 10:37 PM (Om16U)

Which ave? Maria or Caesar?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:40 PM (0mRoj)

179 That Joy photo is just all kinds of awesome!

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (a62hT)

180 Turns out that a 4 stroke engine doesn't like 2 stroke fuel.
Posted by: Halfwise at December 15, 2016 10:39 PM (rB/gm)

I guess it's better than putting straight gasoline in a 2-stroke.

It should be salvageable. I'm sure the oil did a number on the valves though.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (WGxp4)

181 Ave ewok

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (Om16U)

182 Quite a few of the Moron Horde lives in snow country. What are your snow removal methods? Plow? Snow blower?

My solution was to just remove myself from snow country. Much more rewarding.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (D2vc1)

183 167 Anyone catch Assange on Hannity?

The Russians Did Not give Wikileaks the emails.

Second look at Seth Rich?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 15, 2016 10:38 PM (PY9jH)

--Just days after the election Assange put out a statement, and he was adamant that Russia played no part. Also stated he was pro-Stein. The gist of his statement was that Hitlery's camp just had the readily-hackable material, and Team Trump did not.

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (emDjj)

184 Good night, Hrothgar!

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (exyD+)

185 State your opinion and take the slings and arrows that come alongside it.

...otherwise, you're a dick.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (6gk0M)

186
I read the whole thing, self awareness isn't his strong suit.
Posted by: Blanco Basura


It was fairly reasonable up to the point where the door got slammed.

Posted by: Hacky McHackerface at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (IqV8l)

187 smfh, probably a soros employee. in other words, a pussy, onesie wearing, mommas' boy. best to be ignored.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (KP5rU)

188 ... i guess when it comes to trump i'm a sooner: "show me".

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (WTSFk)

189 #127 Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31 PM (S2EVS)

I don't think "fascist" means what you think it means. Also, you are rude. This is not your blog, yet you barged in here with a chip on your shoulder and attitude up the wazoo.

You're here simply to make trouble, whether you are banned or not. So turn up your French nose at us plebes who actually voted. Your hands are clean.

Now brush your teeth and go to bed.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (tHwdc)

190 I do believe Ace decreed a while back that flouncers would be given their stated wish, regardless of whatever outrage they were peddling. So......bye.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (89UPP)

191 But I will be damned if I will be treated like a battered spouse and not speak up about it.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained


How are you being treated like a battered spouse here at ace.mu.nu?

Specific examples, please.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (u8kLQ)

192 >>>>So here is probably my last post ever on AoSHQ because I am pretty sure I will be banned.

Your wish is pretty much my command tonight.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (voOPb)

193 orget caliexit, it's time to turn CA into a giant insane asylum so the rest of us can live in peace without the madness spreading.

Seriously, not necessarily clinically insane, but I believe that a lot of people in the entertainment industry have personality disorders. Narcissism, bi-polar, abnormal need for attention. I also think that it would be interesting to do a study comparing the IQ's of actors with those of a cross section of the American public to see how they compare.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (+lVUW)

194 how many campaign assertions has trump reneged on? not limited to lock her up.

---
AFAIK, none, at least so far...

the MFM, OTOH, keeps telling me he is, or is going to.

to that i say "SecDef Mad Dog Mattis".

my schadenboner is showing no signs of softening.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (nKLZ2)

195 Chicken chicken chicken chicken
Chicken chicken chicken chicken
Chicken chicken chicken chicken
Mushroom mushroom!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (0mRoj)

196 Fuck off and fuck every uncharitble commenter who is in lockstep in cowardly anonymity with you.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31 PM (S2EVS)



That's some mighty fine thinkin' there, Mr Sustained.

Are you one of the Bristol Bay Sustaineds?


Please educate us further with your glorious thoughts.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (9q7Dl)

197 Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 15, 2016 10:39 PM (WTSFk)

---------

This is the ONT.

Shut the fuck up. Nobody cares about your fucking conscience or your damn principles. Its after hours pal.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (JmjOe)

198 So we're all in lock step now? Is that like a Nazi thing?

Jeebus. The butthurt.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (PY9jH)

199 The only bright spot to my fil Alzheimer's is my daughter got her CNA worked in a memory care facility then in a skilled nursing facility and is now working in a hospital. She has a way with demented/Alzheimer's patients. She is starting her nursing degree next month. She is a top performer on her unit and loves her job.

Posted by: Usntakim at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (hMqvx)

200 But I will be damned if I will be treated like a battered spouse and not speak up about it.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:40 PM (S2EVS)


...What's your point?

That you disagree with ace?

I disagree with ace all the time, I don't go to the ONT and tell people who I disagree with to fuck off and call them fascists though...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (WGxp4)

201 >> Fine young men get raging hard-ons too.

So do not so fine dirty old men. Especially a few days after a T shot in the ass.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 15, 2016 10:43 PM (DW+jj)

202 Take the BF to the range, and instill in him that if ANYTHING happens to your daughter, he will be taking the place of the paper target.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:15 PM (CRotO) fnord (CRotO)


"Hey, why do you always go shooting with my Mom instead of spending time with me?!?!"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 10:43 PM (wB8Tg)

203 If Cali were relieved of federal funding it would straighten up tout de suite.

Posted by: gNewt at December 15, 2016 10:43 PM (/8r1I)

204 198 So we're all in lock step now? Is that like a Nazi thing?

--

I think that's goose step. With shiny jackboots.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 15, 2016 10:43 PM (Om16U)

205 My mother died at age 62 of cancer. Her aunt and all three of her brothers died much later - of Alzheimers.

Of all her children, I resemble mom the most. Indeed, it's almost alarming to look in the mirror and see I really have turned into mom. And I have to admit, I'll be nervous when I hit 62.

I'm not sure what sucks more - to die of cancer with your brain intact, so you know exactly what's going on, or to live longer but have your life essentially erased by Alzheimer's. My mother's death was horrible but she died knowing who her spouse and children were. Her brothers didn't.

My dad died of a stroke. That sucked too, but the final end came 2 weeks later, not 6 awful months or years later.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 15, 2016 10:43 PM (P8951)

206 It was fairly reasonable up to the point where the door got slammed.
Posted by: Hacky McHackerface


The "I hate you, Dad!" was a nice touch.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 10:43 PM (IcT7t)

207 slap! all the christmas lights aglow?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 10:44 PM (KP5rU)

208
I do believe Ace decreed a while back that flouncers would be given
their stated wish, regardless of whatever outrage they were peddling.
So......bye.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (89UPP)


What about sashayers, mincing ponces?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 15, 2016 10:44 PM (PY9jH)

209 OK, I've only been skimming the thread.

I'm talking to an 'Ette and asking why anyone would put up an "ace is going to ban me" post in a thread where we know there is no ace.

It's like trying suicide by cop in a mall.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 15, 2016 10:44 PM (mgbwf)

210 ... i guess when it comes to trump i'm a sooner: "show me".
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (WTSFk)

-------

That's Missouri Einstein. Missouri is the Show Me State.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2016 10:44 PM (JmjOe)

211 Damn. Now I want some chicken Marsala.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:45 PM (0mRoj)

212 :-p

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 15, 2016 10:45 PM (WTSFk)

213 Aaaaand while I was formulating that joke, a troby took over.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 10:45 PM (wB8Tg)

214 127. Betcha the dude burned his steaks, too.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 10:45 PM (fWCrN)

215 What about sashayers, mincing ponces?



Bandersnatch can stay.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil at December 15, 2016 10:45 PM (89UPP)

216 What about sashayers, mincing ponces?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 15, 2016 10:44 PM (PY9jH)

Catwalkers
Waddlers
Shufflers

Can't we all just walk along?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 15, 2016 10:45 PM (Om16U)

217 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2016 10:43 PM (wB8Tg)

---

Heh.

Was only one time.

That was enough.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:45 PM (CRotO)

218 188 ... i guess when it comes to trump i'm a sooner: "show me".
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (WTSFk)

--????

Sooner = OK

Show Me = MO

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 10:45 PM (emDjj)

219 Trying to make battered spouse, but I don't know how much batter to make.

Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (iMxBJ)

220 176 I'd be thinking something Arduino or Raspberry Pi-based. While there are many fairly simple ways of getting temperature information shuttled around, the only way I figure you'd get the thermostat setting from one place to another would be digitally. Current RaspPi's already have Wi-Fi on board and run $35.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:24 PM (EzgxV)

Yeah? So I'd have to build out each individual thermostat (I'm sure a redditor has posted instructions), join them to an off-line wifi network, then could hook up touch screens to control them?

Hmmm... might not be a bad idea I guess

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:40 PM (WGxp4)



Replace each thermostat with the RaspPi -- they'd each need a temperature sensor as well. You'd need some easy goofing around to read the analog sensor with a digital input, and some more to boost the RaspPi's 3.3V GPIO levels to standard 5V TTL for the six wire interface. You can run them all headless except one. Probably could get away with $60 at each satellite station.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (EzgxV)

221 >>>>So here is probably my last post ever on AoSHQ because I am pretty sure I will be banned.


You will not be missed.

At least, not as much as LaceWigs, U*G Boots, or ButtWeldedPipeFittings.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (UD0Gq)

222 20 Borrowed from Emmie on the Eichenwald thread:
We put the cat to sleep today. Vet was very gentle
and sweet and sensitive. I can't believe how hard I
am taking it.


This is a very tough thing to do. I did it with a dog of mine. I made the choice to stay with him during the procedure. It was reassuring to me to see what a peaceful end he had.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (+lVUW)

223 every uncharitble commenter who is in lockstep in cowardly anonymity with you.

This is my real name. I live in Salem, Oregon.

Come chat with me if you want.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (39g3+)

224
I suddenly have the hankerin for 'Feelings'.

No not that one, the other one, by Morris Albert.

and ethanol

Posted by: The Righteous Anonymity of the Internet at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (yfnoz)

225 "slap! all the christmas lights aglow?"
-Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 10:44 PM (KP5rU)

Not this year. I was injured and it sucks.

The neighbors were all asking about it, too. Which makes me proud.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (6gk0M)

226 What about sashayers, mincing ponces?

Fops. I need guidance on fops.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2016 10:47 PM (hwA0k)

227 So, Ace, your fascist bending of those who do not bend to the conformity of your thought, and who came to their own honest, heartfelt conclusion has compelled me to tell you as you have told me: Fuck off and fuck every uncharitble commenter who is in lockstep in cowardly anonymity with you.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31

WOW. Maybe you'd have more fun somewhere else. Good luck w/ your angst.

Posted by: Farmer at December 15, 2016 10:47 PM (o/90i)

228 Hope you're feeling better, Slap.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:47 PM (CRotO)

229 219 Trying to make battered spouse, but I don't know how much batter to make.
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (iMxBJ)

Enough to fully immerse them, unless you're first going to cut them into quarters.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:47 PM (0mRoj)

230 Part of the reason I'm going to try (yet again) to stop reading and posting at Jeffrey Wells' Hollywood Elsewhere blog:

Because when all is said and done, and even though I *know* I'm right, I *am* shitting on Wells' rug when I fight with him. Is he a Stalinist? IMHO very much so, yes, and he needs to be called on it all the fuckin' time.

BUT... he pays the hosting fees for his blog/domain/other stuff (I think that's how it works). He gets the advertisers. He does the work. Is he entitled to post whatever mindbendingly awful stupid shit-covered partisan screed he wants, based on that? Yes, in the final analysis, he is.

So it is here at Ace's. You wanna post? Agree? Disagree? Go for it. But don't shit the rug if you're not ready to get your nose (and, entire face) rubbed in your own mess later. We're not crazy or stupid. We are intelligent people capable of making intelligent arguments, and can see a tantrum-thrower coming from 10 miles away.

Me thinks you wanted to just post something extolling your own virtue and bemoaning the fact you can't immediately find a bunch of camp followers, drooling in anticipation of your next great pearl of wisdom. Sorry, that's not us (thank God).

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 10:47 PM (u8kLQ)

231 Replace each thermostat with the RaspPi -- they'd each need a temperature sensor as well. You'd need some easy goofing around to read the analog sensor with a digital input, and some more to boost the RaspPi's 3.3V GPIO levels to standard 5V TTL for the six wire interface. You can run them all headless except one. Probably could get away with $60 at each satellite station.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (EzgxV)

But at $60 each w/ no screen, I'm not that far away from $100 internet enabled app-running thermostats that I can control from my ipad or something...

I don't know. i guess I'll have to put some more thought in to this.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (WGxp4)

232 Remember when the threat to spotted owls shut down the north west timber industry. Before even any evidence that the spotted owl was in danger. People lost their jobs and livelihoods because of the spotted owl dangers, cities and towns died.
Remember the California drought brought about because of the threat to indigenous aquatic life there.
If only the eagles had protectors like the spotted owl.

Posted by: Haile at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (HzNx7)

233 Isn't that the ex pron star I'm watching now on Roseanne? Tracy Lords.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (6Ll1u)

234 226 What about sashayers, mincing ponces?

Fops. I need guidance on fops.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2016 10:47 PM (hwA0k)

And dandies.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (0mRoj)

235 205 My mother died at age 62 of cancer. Her aunt and all three of her brothers died much later - of Alzheimers.

Of all her children, I resemble mom the most. Indeed, it's almost alarming to look in the mirror and see I really have turned into mom. And I have to admit, I'll be nervous when I hit 62.

I'm not sure what sucks more - to die of cancer with your brain intact, so you know exactly what's going on, or to live longer but have your life essentially erased by Alzheimer's. My mother's death was horrible but she died knowing who her spouse and children were. Her brothers didn't.

My dad died of a stroke. That sucked too, but the final end came 2 weeks later, not 6 awful months or years later.
Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 15, 2016 10:43 PM (P8951

Alzheimer's is not the way to go.
Cancer sucks.
ALS sucks.
But Alzheimer's sucks more imho.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (voOPb)

236 If you get older, wire-based, networkable (commercial, actually) thermostats, you'd likely score 'em pretty cheap on some online auction or such.

Then you'd spend between a buttload and a fuckton to wire 'em together through the walls and attic, and have to buy a couple spares in the bargain for the inevitable failure(s).

Now, if you want to just "see" room temps, get something like an Oregon Scientific weather station, with as many sensors/senders as the system can support.

You'd still have to get up and walk to a room to change the temp. But you'd be able to see the readouts from your Fart-O-Lounger, if you install the display accordingly.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (v5iqM)

237 Its 11pm and we got hit by 5 inches or more. Right now its 19f but in the AM it'll be 9f or lower with wind chill. We expect maybe an inch overnight.

Do I shovel now? hmmmm

Posted by: Bigby's Pinky at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (U0lQa)

238 I walk alone.

Posted by: Billy Joe Armstrong at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (hJamr)

239 Thank you, SMFH. I'm doing better.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (6gk0M)

240 229 219 Trying to make battered spouse, but I don't know how much batter to make.
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (iMxBJ)

Enough to fully immerse them, unless you're first going to cut them into quarters.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:47 PM (0mRoj)


No, no, I like her, I just thought a nice bready crust might be a fun variation.

Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (iMxBJ)

241 Just purchased a new house that has 5 zone baseboard heating. They're
controlled by circulating pumps and a system from the '90s. It has 5
different manual wheel thermostats from the '90s.///

My 3 zone forced air system thermostats run to a zone control box like this one

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jo49omy

Honeywell HZ311

If your setup goes to a similar unit that may limit your options. So you would have to work on whats compatible with that control unit.

Posted by: Willy J. at December 15, 2016 10:49 PM (bqN/x)

242 there is nothing like a can of "Quick Start" or generic equivalent starting fluid to fire up a recalcitrant or long unused engine...

had a car sitting in the driveway for several years (long story). changed the oil, which it had needed, and it was obviously well drained, then took off the ducting at the front of the air cleaner assembly, gave it a good shot, and it fired right up on the first try.

still needs to go to the mechanic, because strange noises, but no problem starting it.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2016 10:49 PM (nKLZ2)

243 It's like trying suicide by cop in a mall.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
------------------

There are armed guards here in this mall.
I can't believe they're actually having a dialogue with him. Maybe they are on a coffee break.

Posted by: Chi at December 15, 2016 10:49 PM (ZGag7)

244 Oh, and toffs. Can't forget them.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:49 PM (0mRoj)

245 slap hope you are getting back on track soon.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 10:49 PM (KP5rU)

246 People are weird

Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 10:49 PM (LfmaH)

247 Kurt Eichenwald was fired and disgraced from the New York Times for paying off a kiddy porn producer for a news story

http://nymag.com/guides/money/2007/39957/

He's a peach

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 10:49 PM (39g3+)

248 Has Ace been bending thoughts again?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2016 10:50 PM (hwA0k)

249 Good night, horde.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 15, 2016 10:50 PM (P8951)

250 235. Fops & poppinjays, too

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 10:50 PM (fWCrN)

251 There's something about trying to make a flight home from Atlanta to Savannah.

Husband left 'Nawlins and arrived in Atlanta in time to make his Savannah connection, and it ended up delayed over two hours.

Same thing happened when we returned from Africa. After a long-assed 20 hour flight home, our one hour wait turned into 2 1/2 hours.

It's like Savannah is in some third world country or something.

I know my husband will be beat when he gets home.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 15, 2016 10:50 PM (PY9jH)

252 No, no, I like her, I just thought a nice bready crust might be a fun variation.
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (iMxBJ)

*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:50 PM (0mRoj)

253 My mother, speaking about my oldest brother, once asked her mother, "Ma, why do I have Charlie's kid?"

My uncle was the hellraiser when she was a child and she often heard my grandmother warn, "Someday, you have kids just like you!"

Posted by: Epobirs at December 15, 2016 10:50 PM (AK5Ni)

254 Quite a few of the Moron Horde lives in snow country. What are your snow removal methods? Plow? Snow blower?

I have a Husqvarna 24" snow blower. Also a tractor with a bucket on the front, and a 3-point hitch grader blade on the rear. And armstrong snow shovels. All get used when appropriate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 10:50 PM (MiBfH)

255 Jmel #15: ...My 15 year old daughter has her first boyfriend. ...

I'm sure a shotgun has already been recommended by a Hordeling....



Here, not the video I was looking for, but ... amusing... a bit franker than I would have been with my daughter, but maybe I should've been?

https://youtu.be/kgB46reY6kY

Posted by: mindful webworker - I see dad people at December 15, 2016 10:50 PM (5a8XA)

256 >>Its 11pm and we got hit by 5 inches or more


Captain's Log : Brown Star Date 15.12.16

"Pretty much an average Thursday night in Richard Gere's rectum."

Posted by: Captain Lemmiwinks at December 15, 2016 10:50 PM (UD0Gq)

257 Had friend in college who didn't know how to cook either. Trying to keep it simple for him I told him to boil some hotdogs. A while later I smell burning and rush to the kitchen and see smoke billowing from the pot. He didn't even know how to boil. So he cooked off the water and started the dogs burning.

He became a lawyer if that tells anything.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 15, 2016 10:50 PM (b9JGJ)

258 Its 11pm and we got hit by 5 inches or more. Right
now its 19f but in the AM it'll be 9f or lower with wind chill. We
expect maybe an inch overnight.



Do I shovel now? hmmmm

Posted by: Bigby's Pinky at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (U0lQa)


Given the temperature it's probably the light and fluffy stuff, but get out there now and shovel.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (exyD+)

259 I've tried fucking off, but I keep ending up back here

and I can't really say why, except that I am bad at fucking off

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (oAY8z)

260 247 Kurt Eichenwald was fired and disgraced from the New York Times for paying off a kiddy porn producer for a news story
http://nymag.com/guides/money/2007/39957/
He's a peach
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 10:49 PM (39g3+)


The Times is hiring again!

Posted by: Glenn Thrush at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (iMxBJ)

261 There are armed guards here in this mall.
I can't believe they're actually having a dialogue with him. Maybe they are on a coffee break.
Posted by: Chi at December 15, 2016 10:49 PM (ZGag7)

Run your ass over with a Segway, man. Unless its gecko45. You'll never see him coming.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (0mRoj)

262 Thanks, Chavez. I appreciate it more than you know.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (6gk0M)

263 209 Its weirder than that given Ace has given keys to shoot in this example to cobs and certain posters. It's the equivalent of a ranting YouTube bid the intended target will never see. If you want the Ewok to notice you flounce you need to be a daywalker or luck into one of his sleepless nights.

Posted by: Bete celebrating at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (Ojki1)

264 >>>Hoverboard and shovel?

That's not a hoverboard. You can tell because it has wheels, stays on the ground, and at no point does it actually hover. I don't care what the liars trying to sell the damn thing say, it's just a variation on a skateboard.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (R+30W)

265 Jets win in (ugh) shootout.

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (emDjj)

266 night donna. have heat now?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (KP5rU)

267 Vendette!

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (cPsPa)

268 I have a Husqvarna 24" snow blower. Also a tractor with a bucket on the front, and a 3-point hitch grader blade on the rear. And armstrong snow shovels. All get used when appropriate.

AJ doesn't get that much snow.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 10:52 PM (IcT7t)

269 When you say "manual wheel thermostats", what precisely do you mean? Are they electronic at all? Can you pop the top and see wires?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:13 PM (EzgxV)

Sounds like the old reliable Honeywell Rounds.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 10:52 PM (MiBfH)

270
I'm not sure what sucks more - to die of cancer with your brain intact, so you know exactly what's going on, or to live longer but have your life essentially erased by Alzheimer's.

My father went the first way and mother the second.
Separated by 27 years. Neither way was very pleasant.
I think I'll end up going like mom. Already getting more forgetful. My sister went like dad.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2016 10:52 PM (IqV8l)

271

Never shovel snow while it is still snowing.

And no need to rush, it will still be there tomorrow.

Posted by: The Righteous Anonymity of the Internet at December 15, 2016 10:52 PM (yfnoz)

272 G'Night, Donna of the Ampersands!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 10:52 PM (6gk0M)

273 Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (v5iqM)

Heh. So are you telling me to not be a lazy asshole and to just walk around the house looking at my thermostats when I'm curious as to the current temperature setting?

Because that's probably the right answer if I'm looking at $500+ to digitize it all, and more if I want it networked. At least for now, hopefully prices come down on some of this stuff in the future.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:52 PM (WGxp4)

274 Run your ass over with a Segway, man. Unless its gecko45. You'll never see him coming.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (0mRoj)


*snort*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 15, 2016 10:52 PM (PY9jH)

275 223 every uncharitble commenter who is in lockstep in cowardly anonymity with you.

This is my real name. I live in Salem, Oregon.

Come chat with me if you want.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (39g3+)



The 'rents and sis live in Salem. Mini-MoMe next time I'm in town?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 10:53 PM (EzgxV)

276 Seriously, you can figure out why Eichenwald is at Newsweek, that's the only joint that will take him. He's the Keith Olberman of news.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 10:53 PM (39g3+)

277 got a snow chukker not a blower. electric and light. my drive is gravel, so its always a sloppy job anyway.

getting suited up. night all

Posted by: Bigby's Pinky at December 15, 2016 10:53 PM (U0lQa)

278 >>Never shovel snow while it is still snowing.


Every 10".


Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 10:53 PM (UD0Gq)

279 "No society long endures knowing escalation of preventable, intentional death of innocents -- right in its midst."

"Preventable" - that word is the moral rationale behind countless oppressions.
Yes, drug addiction is preventable, but only at the cost of tyranny. Those who will use drugs shall use drugs. As for their being "innocents", well, if I decide to play Russian roulette and end up blowing my brains out, I can hardly be characterized as an "innocent" victim of a preventable (gun control, anybody?) death, can I.

Posted by: jbspry at December 15, 2016 10:53 PM (QGbEp)

280 chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,

chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,
chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken,



refreshing last nights chicken

Posted by: amy schumer at December 15, 2016 10:53 PM (ENpER)

281 Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (cPsPa)



Y5! I still owe you Scotch.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 10:53 PM (exyD+)

282 Seeing Vendette back is Restaurant Quality Lemonade!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 10:53 PM (6gk0M)

283 134 Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31 PM (S2EVS)

-------------

So very brave of you to tell Ace to fuck off in a thread you know he doesn't read. Your shine box, go get it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 15, 2016 10:53 PM (kTF2Z)

284 C'mon, flounce
Let your body move to the butthurt
Hey, hey, hey
Come on, flounce
Tell your host he's only a fascist
You know you can do it

Posted by: Madonna at December 15, 2016 10:53 PM (iMxBJ)

285 The 'rents and sis live in Salem. Mini-MoMe next time I'm in town?

There are actually a few 'rons in Oregon, mostly Portland area. No 'ettes, sadly. Could be fun to meet up.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 10:54 PM (39g3+)

286 They cant make em anymore.


Mercury switches.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2016 10:54 PM (JmjOe)

287 So it is here at Ace's. You wanna post? Agree? Disagree? Go for it. But don't shit the rug...
---------------

I loved that rug, man. It really tied the room together.

Posted by: Chi at December 15, 2016 10:54 PM (ZGag7)

288 Just watched a PBS special about Burt Bacharach. It was Burt and Dion Warwick with a few others. Nothing wrong with that except for the big gaps in his musical history. Carol Bayer Sager was visible for about 5 seconds with her name mentioned once. Not one sound from her lips. And nothing on his collaboration with Peter Allen.



Posted by: Eye Licking Lizard at December 15, 2016 10:54 PM (/8r1I)

289 Wait....Vendette left??? (I don't mean that sarcastically. I had no idea she wasn't posting here.)

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil at December 15, 2016 10:54 PM (89UPP)

290 Snow removal for 1 mile of narrow, sunken road with hills and dropoffs is a Kubota 70 horse 4wd tractor with 7 foot rear blade and snow bucket on the loader. Tire chains on the rears. Unfortunately no cab, for I use it in the woods quite often and glass and tree limbs are mutually exclusive.

After I get done with my road, I have some neighbors that have grown to depend on me.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 15, 2016 10:54 PM (TnUKj)

291 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2016 10:52 PM (IqV8l)

---

Since I will likely die alone, Alzheimers doesn't bother me...not much worth remembering.

Rather die from that than cancer.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:54 PM (CRotO)

292 Sounds like the old reliable Honeywell Rounds.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 10:52 PM (MiBfH)

yessir

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:54 PM (WGxp4)

293 You will not be missed.

At least, not as much as LaceWigs, U*G Boots, or ButtWeldedPipeFittings.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (UD0Gq)


Don't forget me !

Posted by: Cat Filters at December 15, 2016 10:54 PM (80HyY)

294 261. By far, gecko45 - the mall ninja - was a master of trolling. The Lord Yugemungus taught him everything he knew, bigly.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 10:55 PM (fWCrN)

295 I'm so going to miss watching TFG trotting down the steps of AF One, thin wrists flapping. I only wish we could have one more umbrella episode.

Oh, and Oprah is doing a Farewell to Mooch show next week, for those here who are interested, and I know all of you are.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 15, 2016 10:55 PM (PY9jH)

296 Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (emDjj)

Assange doesn't strike me as a Trump supporter. Neither does Putin, for that matter, though I think Putin probably admires some aspects of Trump's personality and his career.

Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at December 15, 2016 10:55 PM (nvMvs)

297 290 Snow removal for 1 mile of narrow, sunken road with hills and dropoffs is a Kubota 70 horse 4wd tractor with 7 foot rear blade and snow bucket on the loader. Tire chains on the rears. Unfortunately no cab, for I use it in the woods quite often and glass and tree limbs are mutually exclusive.

After I get done with my road, I have some neighbors that have grown to depend on me.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 15, 2016 10:54 PM (TnUKj)

That's some serious equipment.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:55 PM (WGxp4)

298 I loved that rug, man. It really tied the room together.

Right up until Brian Dennehy ate it.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2016 10:55 PM (hwA0k)

299 Your shine box, go get it.

One of those juiceboxes while you're at it. Apple.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 10:55 PM (39g3+)

300
People are weird
Posted by: Random Joe


People are weird when you're a weirdo.
Women seem wicked when you're a loon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2016 10:56 PM (IqV8l)

301
do not ever lift snow, just push snow




Posted by: Origional Jake at December 15, 2016 10:56 PM (jrFgU)

302 Someone wanted an updated version of bundling?


Here ya go:


https://tinyurl.com/zfqwlh6

Posted by: Country Singer (Gab @BertG) at December 15, 2016 10:56 PM (GUBah)

303 It snowed a few inches here but nobody shovels their walk. Nobody has a snow shovel, we get like one inch every three years or so. Melts in a few days. People just crunch over the snow.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 10:56 PM (39g3+)

304
trump
trump
trump

deport
deport
deport

Posted by: Origional Jake at December 15, 2016 10:57 PM (jrFgU)

305 'Night, all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 15, 2016 10:57 PM (PY9jH)

306 Oh, you don't want to get caught with a dead eagle or killing one for that matter.

Hell, even a fucking feather will get you in Dutch.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 10:22 PM (UD0Gq)

Unless you run a windmill farm. Then it's eagle soup every Suinday.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 10:57 PM (MiBfH)

307 303 It snowed a few inches here but nobody shovels their walk. Nobody has a snow shovel, we get like one inch every three years or so. Melts in a few days. People just crunch over the snow.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 10:56 PM (39g3+)

Oh. I no longer live in a city with sidewalks, but when I did, if you didn't shovel they city would give you a ticket for beign a dick.

Plus all the scammers out there waiting to slip 'n fall on your walk and sue you.

So, yeah, we always shoveled.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:57 PM (WGxp4)

308 I didn't even know Oprah still had a show.

Posted by: no good deed at December 15, 2016 10:57 PM (hJamr)

309 Niters, Jane.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:57 PM (CRotO)

310 G'Night, Jane D'oh.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 10:57 PM (6gk0M)

311
That Objection character sure had what sounded like a ChemJeff vibe going for his farewell address.

Hasta la bye-bye, baby!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 15, 2016 10:57 PM (BK3ZS)

312 But once the snow starts here, it usually doesn't go away until to spring.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:58 PM (WGxp4)

313 Unless you run a windmill farm. Then it's eagle soup every Suinday.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Tastes great with extra hobo.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 10:58 PM (u8kLQ)

314 Good night, Jane!

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 10:58 PM (exyD+)

315 There's a bird sanctuary not far from El Rancho Webworker, where they've done a lot toward increasing the eagle population. It's great to be out in the yard and see golden eagles. Saw a pair of bald eagles, not so far overhead one day. Love 'em. Even if they're a potential threat to our kittehs. (Go for the rabbits, bro!)

Then I see windmill parts moving down the highway. Big program to promote eagle cuisinarts here in Okla. I hope we soon outgrow that green-tinged delusion.

Posted by: mindful webworker - bird watcher at December 15, 2016 10:58 PM (5a8XA)

316 You should see the boob's on this KCAL weather chick telling me that it's raining.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 15, 2016 10:58 PM (6Ll1u)

317 Y5! I still owe you Scotch.
Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 10:53 PM (exyD+)




why yes you do. where have you been keeping yourself? not the same here without you.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:59 PM (cPsPa)

318 Good night, horde.
Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 15, 2016 10:50

Sleep well, glad you got heat.

I'm off for a nap myself, maybe see you later.

Posted by: Farmer at December 15, 2016 10:59 PM (o/90i)

319 also, it's forecast to be 0 degrees when I wake up in the morning. As in, no temperature.

Sounds lovely.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:59 PM (WGxp4)

320 311 see 214.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 10:59 PM (fWCrN)

321 Thing is Eagles are nowhere near being threatened.

Fucking things are everywhere, anymore.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 11:00 PM (UD0Gq)

322 Alright, the ambien is taking me down. Goodnight Horde. Try not to fuck up the place tomorrow.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Has Seen Rogue One But Will Not Spoil at December 15, 2016 11:00 PM (89UPP)

323 ..."Unless you run a windmill farm. Then it's eagle soup every Suinday."
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 10:57 PM (MiBfH)

Sounds Swedish. Checks-out, as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:00 PM (6gk0M)

324 296 Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 10:41 PM (emDjj)

Assange doesn't strike me as a Trump supporter. Neither does Putin, for that matter, though I think Putin probably admires some aspects of Trump's personality and his career.
Posted by: Michael the TEXIT at December 15, 2016 10:55 PM (nvMvs)

--Assange was decidely not. I think the feelings between Trump and Putin are mutual. Lots of speculation that Hillary was goading for WWIII wih Russia. Trump might have saved us from the miserable and pointless outcome.

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 11:00 PM (emDjj)

325 G'Night, BCochran.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:00 PM (6gk0M)

326 'Night Jane!

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 11:00 PM (emDjj)

327 273 Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2016 10:48 PM (v5iqM)

Heh. So are you telling me to not be a lazy asshole and to just walk around the house looking at my thermostats when I'm curious as to the current temperature setting?

Because that's probably the right answer if I'm looking at $500+ to digitize it all, and more if I want it networked. At least for now, hopefully prices come down on some of this stuff in the future.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:52 PM (WGxp4)



*Snaps fingers* That's right! You could use Pi Zeros, which are $5/each, but would need an $8 wireless nub. That would lower your price per node by $20.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 11:01 PM (EzgxV)

328 I figure Assange just hates Hillary and the corruption of the Democratic party. Putin probably sees some of himself in Trump but they're rivals, not friends. Trump sees some things he admires or that are like him in Putin, but he's a rival as well. Putin is between him and being number one in Trump's eyes. That's a bad place to be.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:02 PM (39g3+)

329 I shovel the sidewalk and back patio to the pellets. There is a guy down the street that uses his 4 wheeler with a plow on front and does the walks on both sides of the street at about 5:30 am. Sure is a big help.

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2016 11:02 PM (a62hT)

330 Posted by: Willy J. at December 15, 2016 10:49 PM (bqN/x)

hmmm... I'll have to check

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:02 PM (WGxp4)

331 Didn't read all the comments but in case anybody didn't know, fun fact about Roy M. Cohn was that he was en,gaged to Barbara Walters once upon a time when they were both very young. Their mothers were friends or something.

They didn't get around to actually getting hitched tho

Posted by: Boots at December 15, 2016 11:02 PM (EBwPV)

332 Happy Bill of Rights Day!

Today is the 225th anniversary of the first ten amendments to the Constitution coming into effect. The original Bill of Rights contained a preamble stating that the clauses were "declaratory and restrictive" - i.e. they restricted the Federal Government and simply declared already existing rights and liberties. This is in stark contrast with almost every non-American declaration of rights, wherein inherent rights are conflated with promised of government handouts and benefits.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12879

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 15, 2016 11:02 PM (vBeA5)

333 Thrawn #70: ...the tradition has been updated for modern times.
http://tinyurl.com/mdy9l97


Oh, good, that's the one I went looking for. Figured someone would link to that.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dadperson at December 15, 2016 11:02 PM (5a8XA)

334 12 Posts of Christmas, 2016 (Day 3)

"Silent Night" by the Gothard Sisters

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12804

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 15, 2016 11:03 PM (vBeA5)

335
Oh, you don't want to get caught with a dead eagle or killing one for that matter.
Hell, even a fucking feather will get you in Dutch.
Posted by: garrett


Retired from an electric utility. Had to drive all over the state of Indiana working in substations. We had a safety meeting where we were told never to pick up any kind of feathers because only "Native Americans" were allowed to possess any of them.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2016 11:03 PM (IqV8l)

336 "8 reasons you must teach CBD your son to cook. Besides survival, he may have a coblogger job awaiting him someday."

Is a "coblogger" like a lumberjack who fells cornstalks?

Posted by: jbspry at December 15, 2016 11:03 PM (QGbEp)

337 295;,jane, i would love to watch the mooch special. but, i think that's the day i have to reprimer the jeep. or, maybe that's the day i have to wear my white shoes. i'm pretty sure that i will miss it. i can always take a picture of my toilet seat to remind me what i'm missing.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 11:04 PM (KP5rU)

338 Trying to make battered spouse, but I don't know how much batter to make.

Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (iMxBJ)

First, measure the surface area of the spouse, then multiply by chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.
Chicken?

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 11:05 PM (tHwdc)

339
Snow removal (Delmarva Peninsula)

Snow blower (double auger a must for the wet sloppy stuff).

I have, and have used, a snow scoop (Yooper, eh!). Works best with depths no more than six inches and dry snow.

Shovel, a heavy coal shovel type, not those flimsy aluminum or plastic POSs that hardware stores trot out.

Do not let matters get ahead of you, not matter what tool you use. Clearing during and after a storm is extra work, but having surfaces as clear snd wide open as possible is worth it. Our driveway is blacktop and if the snow and ice buildup is kept to a minimum, sunlight will do a great job helping to clear up within several days.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 15, 2016 11:05 PM (BK3ZS)

340 Sorry to hear you're not back to 100%, Slapweasel. I hope you get there soon.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 11:05 PM (EzgxV)

341 199--- The only bright spot to my fil Alzheimer's is my daughter got her CNA worked in a memory care facility then in a skilled nursing facility and is now working in a hospital. She has a way with demented/Alzheimer's patients. She is starting her nursing degree next month. She is a top performer on her unit and loves her job.
Posted by: Usntakim at December 15, 2016 10:42 PM (hMqvx)
-----------------------------------
That is a yuuuuge bright spot.
God bless her!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 15, 2016 11:05 PM (Nox3c)

342 Our house is old. It has ollld wiring with paper and solid wire in the walls, plaster, push button lights, big lintels over the doors, 7 foot ceilings on the first floor, and one of those old mercury switch thermostats. It all works but its getting kind of shabby and we can't afford to fix it all up.

At some point probably in the 70s someone threw up new wallpaper and I think they were either insane or taking lots of acid. One room has yellow circus tent strips, the living room has this hideous vertical rattan type stuff the cat thinks is there to sharpen his claws on. I think they covered up a beautiful wood floor with a nasty carpet. It is just desperate for Chip and Joanna Gaines to fix up, but she'd put that damn shiplap everywhere and french doors in someplace.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:05 PM (39g3+)

343 Heh....I've installed an illegal woodburning stove in my secret lair (a bachelor-pad built inside an industrial building in back of my business). My angel thinks it's quite a treat to have a fire going and the lights out..... life is good.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 11:06 PM (fWCrN)

344 Trying to make battered spouse, but I don't know how much batter to make.

Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2016 10:46 P

I like my plain

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 11:06 PM (voOPb)

345 My parents have a mated pair of eagles nesting about 40 yards from their back deck. Mom took some stunning picture of them. She said she wondered if there were any feathers near the tree where they built the aerie. I told her just to keep on wondering. You don't want to find out firsthand what the fine for your curiosity is.

Posted by: no good deed at December 15, 2016 11:06 PM (hJamr)

346 The blog is now *officially* five-minutes out of phase.

It happens to be about forty seconds every month.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:06 PM (6gk0M)

347 Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 10:59 PM (cPsPa)



Aw, shucks.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:06 PM (exyD+)

348 you could place cheap battery powered digital temp readers in each room the 5 are in and manually adjust each of the 5 as needed

Posted by: Origional Jake at December 15, 2016 11:06 PM (jrFgU)

349 As in, no temperature.

Sounds lovely.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:59 PM (WGxp4)


Comparative temperature scales:

Fahrenheit: 0, cold. 100, hot

Celsius: 0, cold. 100, dead

Kelvin: 0, dead. 100, dead

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 15, 2016 11:07 PM (J8/9G)

350 >>The blog is now *officially* five-minutes out of phase.


But, how do we use that to our advantage?

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 11:07 PM (UD0Gq)

351 Dear Lord, I ask of you to find solace and comfort for our humbled brethren. Allow him the strength to carry out Your Will.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 10:32 PM (6gk0M)

Much appreciated, thank you


Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2016 11:07 PM (Ya7zs)

352 Retired from an electric utility. Had to drive all
over the state of Indiana working in substations. We had a safety
meeting where we were told never to pick up any kind of feathers because
only "Native Americans" were allowed to possess any of them.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2016 11:03 PM (IqV8l)

Trump should use his pen and phone to override this. I will not tolerate some Americans having rights that all Americans cannot enjoy.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 11:07 PM (tHwdc)

353 We've missed you, Vendette.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:07 PM (6gk0M)

354 4. Shovel the walkways by hand, including when you get 4 straight days of snowfall with an accumulation of at least 2 feet.
5. Sometime in January go pick up your snowblower which now starts like a charm.
6. Tell yourself that next year you will check your snowblower right after Halloween.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 10:28 PM (+lVUW)

After the last snowfall of the season, siphon as much fuel as you can out of the tank on the snowblower, and then run the engine at a fast idle until it quits. It should be good to go the next time you refill the tank, whether nect fall, or a month later, when the "last snowfall" turned out not to be.

Alternative: fill fuel tank, add recommended dose of Sta-Bil fuel stabilizer, and run engine long enough that stabilizer-treated fuel can be safely assumed to have filled the carburetor. Say ten minutes.

Modern, ethanol "enhanced" fuel has lousy keeping qualities.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 11:08 PM (MiBfH)

355 We had a safety meeting where we were told never to pick up any kind of
feathers because only "Native Americans" were allowed to possess any of
them.

Yeah, it's illegal to pick up the feathers of any migratory bird in the US. Legally hunted game birds are okay.

Posted by: no good deed at December 15, 2016 11:08 PM (hJamr)

356 Last snow shovel I bought was in 1991 when I moved to New Hampshire. Like Christopher Taylor said, we don't get much snow here in the Willamette valley. However, the snow shovel is great for pushing all the f*ing wet leaves out of the way that bombard my driveway all Fall.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 15, 2016 11:08 PM (b9JGJ)

357 Currently 24° - calling for 18 overnight. High of 33 tomorrow, then 60's & 70's for Saturday and Sunday.
Al Gore is a dick.
(That last sentence may or may not be related to my local weather)

Posted by: Chi at December 15, 2016 11:08 PM (ZGag7)

358 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:07 PM (6gk0M)



I posted like crazy on the CFL thread. But it's nice to know that I was missed...

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:09 PM (exyD+)

359 Comparative temperature scales:



Fahrenheit: 0, cold. 100, hot



Celsius: 0, cold. 100, dead



Kelvin: 0, dead. 100, dead

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 15, 2016 11:07 PM (J8/9G)

Proof that Fahrenheit is the safest temperature scale.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 11:09 PM (tHwdc)

360 You should see the boob's on this KCAL weather chick telling me that it's raining.

My husband never fails to comment on the frontal boundaries of the weather gal.

Posted by: no good deed at December 15, 2016 11:09 PM (hJamr)

361 357. Thought you were leaving?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 11:09 PM (fWCrN)

362 You're quite welcome, kbdabear. Our love is one thing. His love is another. God Bless you!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:09 PM (6gk0M)

363
Battered spouse? Like a tempura?

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2016 11:09 PM (JmjOe)

364
I posted like crazy on the CFL thread. But it's nice to know that I was missed...
Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:09 PM (exyD+)

--There was a CFL Thread?!?!?! Was it during the Grey Cup?

And how about that? The fucking expansion team has won one more recently than the Blue Bombers.

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 11:10 PM (emDjj)

365 Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:09 PM (exyD+)

It's nice to see you here on a school nite

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 11:11 PM (voOPb)

366 Chicken Fried Spouse

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 11:11 PM (UD0Gq)

367 361. Oops. Answered a flouncer whose post vanished.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 11:11 PM (fWCrN)

368 Officer down in Mount Vernon, Washington (Skagit County). Shooter now holed up in a house. Looks like every LEO in the area is converging. Officer transported to hospital, no word on condition.


Scanner: http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/4958


Link: https://twitter.com/breakingskagit?lang=en

Posted by: Country Singer (Gab @BertG) at December 15, 2016 11:11 PM (GUBah)

369 I prefer my battered spouse with beer batter. Its just lighter and fluffier.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:11 PM (39g3+)

370 i never put ethanol in my car, or any other things i have that use gasoline. never have a problem. ethanol sucks donkey dick.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 11:11 PM (KP5rU)

371 ... sorry, just goofing around.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 15, 2016 11:11 PM (WTSFk)

372 358 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:07 PM (6gk0M)



I posted like crazy on the CFL thread. But it's nice to know that I was missed...

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:09 PM (exyD+)



You have been missed. Think you'll be hitting more ONT's in the future?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 11:12 PM (EzgxV)

373 342 Our house is old. It has ollld wiring with paper and solid wire in the walls, plaster, push button lights, big lintels over the doors, 7 foot ceilings on the first floor, and one of those old mercury switch thermostats. It all works but its getting kind of shabby and we can't afford to fix it all up.

At some point probably in the 70s someone threw up new wallpaper and I think they were either insane or taking lots of acid. One room has yellow circus tent strips, the living room has this hideous vertical rattan type stuff the cat thinks is there to sharpen his claws on. I think they covered up a beautiful wood floor with a nasty carpet. It is just desperate for Chip and Joanna Gaines to fix up, but she'd put that damn shiplap everywhere and french doors in someplace.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:05 PM (39g3+)


doesn't cost much money to fix most of that stuff... I mean it would take some time though

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:12 PM (WGxp4)

374 About 7 years back when the DC area got feet of snow, the father and son across the street helped shovel me and the Democrat neighbor out. The son, about 10 at the time, was the biggest conservative you would ever meet. Seriously, I saw him tell Democrats off to their faces. The family moved away, but I'm sure he's a happy camper these days.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:12 PM (exyD+)

375 CFL thread.


???????

Posted by: Origional Jake at December 15, 2016 11:12 PM (jrFgU)

376 I see the possibility of shenanigans with this concussion protocol. Independent observers? Hey, here's a few grand, make sure their QB doesn't finish the game.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 15, 2016 11:12 PM (kTF2Z)

377 Hey Vendette, good to see you in here!

Posted by: Country Singer (Gab @BertG) at December 15, 2016 11:13 PM (GUBah)

378 Poof, he's gone again!!! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 11:13 PM (u8kLQ)

379 I refuse to shovel until it stops - the winds drift and it just doubles the effort. Neighbor has a snow blower and he'll rip the real deep stuff while I'll shovel the real light stuff off of his walk all neighborly like

Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 11:14 PM (LfmaH)

380 375 CFL thread.


???????

Posted by: Origional Jake at December 15, 2016 11:12 PM (jrFgU)



Canadian Football League.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 11:14 PM (EzgxV)

381 370 i never put ethanol in my car, or any other things i have that use gasoline. never have a problem. ethanol sucks donkey dick.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 11:11 PM (KP5rU)


Yeah, I once thought I'd follow that plan, so I found some site that tells you the nearest place to get pure gasoline. "Drive for 90 minutes, and there's this boat pier..." No.

Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2016 11:14 PM (iMxBJ)

382 CFL thread.


???????
Posted by: Origional Jake

Compact Flouresent Lamp...no wait, Canadian Football League

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 15, 2016 11:15 PM (TnUKj)

383 Great, so we have a troll who won't go away, even go away mad.

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 11:15 PM (emDjj)

384 Punters are Fragile and shit.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 11:15 PM (UD0Gq)

385 What the fuck just happened on Thursday Night Football?!?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:15 PM (6gk0M)

386 That dickwad elector, Chris Suprin (I want to call him Chris Supine) will be doing an AMA on Reddit tomorrow, the 16th at 11 a.m.

Posted by: vivi at December 15, 2016 11:15 PM (11H2y)

387 CFL thread:


http://ace.mu.nu/archives/367310.php#367310

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:15 PM (exyD+)

388 doesn't cost much money to fix most of that stuff... I mean it would take some time though

I figure 10-15 grand and the place would be in decent shape, but it would take more like 50 to do it right, because it needs new wiring, new plumbing, the floors are sinking, the porch needs rebuilding, there's no insulation that I'm aware of except in the attic, lots of repainting to do, etc. We really need more than one small bathroom as well, and the garage is too tiny for anything but a Model T or a Smart Car (the VW beetle barely fits) so it would be better as a room. Lots of plans, no money.

Maybe if Steven Spielberg backs a dumptruck full of cash up to the house to make Life Unworthy into a film, I can fix it all up.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:15 PM (39g3+)

389 Scanner: http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/4958


Link: https://twitter.com/breakingskagit?lang=en
Posted by: Country Singer (Gab @BertG) at December 15, 2016 11:11 PM (GUBah)

he's telling the helicopter to leave.

reminds me of
http://tinyurl.com/cr3ypay

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:16 PM (WGxp4)

390 Fake punt fumble?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:16 PM (6gk0M)

391 378. I don't get flouncing. When I left lgf, I just left. Didnt feel the need to post anything about it.

But some people hate daddy, and want some acknowledgment of their empty, futile existence.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 11:16 PM (fWCrN)

392 386 That dickwad elector, Chris Suprin (I want to call him Chris Supine) will be doing an AMA on Reddit tomorrow, the 16th at 11 a.m.
Posted by: vivi at December 15, 2016 11:15 PM (11H2y)


The Brits would say "He doesn't half fancy himself, does he?" What's American for that? "What a douche?"

Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2016 11:16 PM (iMxBJ)

393

'Did we win the Super Bowl?'

Posted by: Seahawk Punter at December 15, 2016 11:16 PM (UD0Gq)

394 What the fuck just happened on Thursday Night Football?!?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:15 PM (6gk0M)




Looks like Ryan got KO'd with that hit to the back of the head. I don't understand him almost losing the ball while he was running, though.

Posted by: Country Singer (Gab @BertG) at December 15, 2016 11:16 PM (GUBah)

395 ou know Hillary Clinton will never be president of the US.

Now what's the vote on she actually killed people? My wife is reading a book and is convinced she has done so.
Posted by: Farmer at December 15, 2016 10:37 PM (o/90i)


A few weeks ago I saw a youtube that ennumerated and described all of the people surrounding the Clintons who have died under suspicious circumstances. Lots and lots of "suicides". Either these people are whacking people right and left or their personalities are so bad that working with a Clinton makes you want to put a bullet through your head.
Anyway, interesting youtube. The Ron Brown plane crash was particularly suspicious.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 11:16 PM (+lVUW)

396 385 What the fuck just happened on Thursday Night Football?!?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:15 PM (6gk0M)

--Shithawks trying to run up the score with a fake punt, then the football gods punishing them.

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 11:17 PM (emDjj)

397 Those neon green Seattle uniforms look like someone stacked stupid on top of retarded.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:17 PM (6gk0M)

398 381: we have multiple stations around here with no ethanol gas. guess we're lucky. i know in some states it's damn near impossible to find no ethanol gas. thanks iowa.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 11:17 PM (KP5rU)

399 >>I don't understand him almost losing the ball while he was running, though.


I'm a punter!

Posted by: Seahawk Punter at December 15, 2016 11:17 PM (UD0Gq)

400 Woke up this morning it was -11. It's a balmy +3 now. I love technology and natural gas. Fireplaces suck as an everyday heat source especially for overnight (off grid cabin taught me this).

Posted by: Willy J. at December 15, 2016 11:17 PM (bqN/x)

401 A few weeks ago I saw a youtube that ennumerated and described all of the people surrounding the Clintons who have died under suspicious circumstances. Lots and lots of "suicides". Either these people are whacking people right and left or their personalities are so bad that working with a Clinton makes you want to put a bullet through your head.
Anyway, interesting youtube. The Ron Brown plane crash was particularly suspicious.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 11:16 PM (+lVUW)

shit, I'd consider suicide if I had to spend my life around the Clintons.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:17 PM (WGxp4)

402 I missed the Eichenwald thread so I'm gonna post about it here again. I've read through his twitter log and even his friends are saying "dude... what the hell was that?? Stay off television."

That was so cringeworthy, I'm sure he thought he was going to show up and demolish Tucker Carlson and be the big man on campus. He came across like the kid who wore the same outfit every day to school and had a briefcase full of his notes about everything he'd whip out in an argument.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:18 PM (39g3+)

403 PS I know nothing about heating or zones.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 15, 2016 10:35 PM (Om16U)

This is in connection with hot water baseboard heaters, like in my Alberta home. I have two zones; it's a smallish house. A "zone" is a complete loop of pipe from the boiler, through one or more heaters, and back to the boiler. And a heating "boiler" is not really a boiler, sensu stricto, because the water doesn't boil, and it runs at atmospheric pressure.

Each zone has its own thermostat, Honeywell Round in my case, that controls an electrically-operated "zone valve" to enable/disable flow in the loop. The boiler itself has thermostats that monitor inlet/outlet temperatures, and kicks in the gas burner when differential between the two becomes too great.

The tiny circulating pump runs 24/7.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 11:18 PM (MiBfH)

404 Why we are asking anything about what happened on Thursday Night Football is a sign that the NFL has a problem.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:18 PM (exyD+)

405 When we lived near Cincinnati we had a huge snow scoop that could just be pushed and tipped. I could clear off our 3000 sq. ft. driveway in an hour with much less strain than a shovel and without trying to start a small engine in the cold.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 15, 2016 11:19 PM (J8/9G)

406 Now what's the vote on she actually killed people?

Personally? No I doubt she ever pulled the trigger. But I'm certain she had people rubbed out. Not just "oopsie we didn't send help" but "who will rid me of this troublesome DNC leak??" hits.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:19 PM (39g3+)

407 As we are about to enter the "bowl games no one knew existed" season.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:19 PM (exyD+)

408 You know what's pure joy? Lou Reed doing Sweet Jane. That and the fact that Hillary will never ever be f'n presif'ndent.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2016 11:19 PM (CPk08)

409 Wasn't there a copter crash in HI with a bunch of Clintonistas on it?

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2016 11:19 PM (a62hT)

410 I love the song "O Holy Night." But Carrie Underpants? Yuck. Hell, Eric Cartman sings it better. Carrie is cute as a button, but she basically just hollers on key. I mute Sunday Night Football during the endless opening sing-song.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at December 15, 2016 11:20 PM (wwTGw)

411 387 CFL thread:


http://ace.mu.nu/archives/367310.php#367310
Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:15 PM (exyD+)

--Hmm, I think I posted in that one. Not sure if I was sober.

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2016 11:20 PM (emDjj)

412 This is the most football I've watched all year, Vendette.

Seven solid minutes of confusion.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:20 PM (6gk0M)

413 Thing about etanol gas is that theres not always ethanol in it.

Ethanol quotas are specd out by tonnage,n ot by percentage.

Its why the label on the gas pump says "may" contain up to 10% ethanol. I can always tell when the refineries are spiking gas again. My mileage takes a dump.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2016 11:20 PM (JmjOe)

414 148 What does each thermostat control? You don't have 5 heaters do you?

Just wondering if there is a way to get information at the central point which I assume is the heater.

PS I know nothing about heating or zones.
Posted by: @votermom @vm at December 15, 2016 10:35 PM (Om16U)

Sorry just saw this since AOP quoted it.

But what he said.

One furnace, it's forced hot water. Basically it burns oil that heats up oil that gets pumped through pipes. There are 5 different (controlled from thermostat) circulators that open and close to allow the hot water from the furnace through.

Those control the temperatures in the baseboards, which in return controls the temperatures in the rooms where the thermostats are.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:21 PM (WGxp4)

415 >>The blog is now *officially* five-minutes out of phase.

But, how do we use that to our advantage?

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 11:07 PM (UD0Gq)


Travel back in time to 19th Century San Fransisco...

Posted by: The Temporal Hat at December 15, 2016 11:21 PM (vBeA5)

416 164 At the end of the winter, I let my snowblower run until it is out of gas. Usually in the morning on a nice warm spring day. Then I fill the tank with (No Ethanol) Snowmobile Fuel and add the required amount of StaBil.

Starts right up the morning of the first winter snow.
Posted by: garrett

When I pick up my snowblower in January, I'm going to ask the hardware guys if this will be okay for mine.
Thanks for the info.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 11:21 PM (+lVUW)

417 heats up water** not oil

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:21 PM (WGxp4)

418 This is the most football I've watched all year, Vendette.



Seven solid minutes of confusion.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:20 PM (6gk0M)

With the rules these days, confusion is right.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:22 PM (exyD+)

419 3% of the eagle population is killed legally annually.

Were there 32 other guys in the Eagles aside from Glen Frey?

Posted by: gewa76 at December 15, 2016 11:23 PM (B6OKy)

420 When I pick up my snowblower in January, I'm going to ask the hardware guys if this will be okay for mine.
Thanks for the info.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 11:21 PM (+lVUW)

I usually leave mine with fuel and it always starts the next year.

But occasionally when I'm smart I'll run it dry then drain the oil. That's what you're supposed to do.

Then in the fall I put new oil and gas in, fire it up, let it run for a while, then am ready for the first snowfall.

Or, like from last year, I did none of that and it started second pull.

::shrug:: 1970's Tecumseh engine. Thing won't die. Isn't too picky.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:23 PM (WGxp4)

421 Back when Charlotte Church was a good girl and not a pop slut, she did a wonderful version of Oh Holy Night

https://youtu.be/BUjJi0l_hOY

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:23 PM (39g3+)

422 The Blog's Clock was last corrected in June, I believe.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:23 PM (6gk0M)

423 how many campaign assertions has trump reneged on? not limited to lock her up.

in moscow, idaho, we have a saying, "trust but verify". i'll believe trump when i see it.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 15, 2016 10:37 PM (WTSFk)

I don't believe he has actually reneged on any, given that, until he takes the oath of office, he has no power to act on any of them.

Now he may be soft-pedaling some promises as a negotiating tactic, but until it's put up, or shut up, time, he hasn't reneged.

Sorry if this bursts your bubble.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 11:23 PM (MiBfH)

424 Anyway, interesting youtube. The Ron Brown plane crash was particularly suspicious.

Posted by: nerdygirl _***

Suspicious as in happening right after getting the deal transferred from security to commerce his plane flies into the side of a mountain or a bullet in the top of his head?

Posted by: gNewt at December 15, 2016 11:24 PM (/8r1I)

425 Slime green uniforms & an Amy Schumer commercial

Ain't life grand?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 11:24 PM (voOPb)

426 Since I will likely die alone, Alzheimers doesn't bother me...not much worth remembering.


Rather die from that than cancer.
Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 10:54 PM (CRotO)



Dear SMFH, please stop being morbid.

It makes me want to swear and that would probably damage my morals.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2016 11:24 PM (wZCfc)

427 anyone see that autism link about not enough protein may have something to do with it?

the brain needs protein I think

Posted by: Origional Jake at December 15, 2016 11:24 PM (jrFgU)

428 Those water based heaters work really well, they give a nice heat almost as good as a fireplaece or wood stove. Just not great for the whole house, you gotta have one in every room.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:24 PM (39g3+)

429 Either these people are whacking people right and left or their personalities are so bad that working with a Clinton makes you want to put a bullet through your head.

A lot of those "suicides" were bullets to the back of the head. So apparently working with the Clintons gives you an extra determination to kill yourself that most people do not posses.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 11:24 PM (IcT7t)

430 What is a "catch", nowadays?

I used to know what a "catch" was.

Now you need a move and control through the ground or something.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:25 PM (6gk0M)

431 133
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 15, 2016 10:31 PM (S2EVS)

LOL.

*turns, lights cigarette, leans back in chair and starts reading a papeback...*


Posted by: Tucker Carlson at December 15, 2016 11:25 PM (8iiMU)

432 the brain needs protein I think

You can keep telling the wife that but I don't think its gonna work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:25 PM (39g3+)

433 I think the brain needs fat.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 11:26 PM (UD0Gq)

434 Second snow was ok, third snowstorm he couldn't get it to start unless it was inside. Even then it was a chore.

Turns out that a 4 stroke engine doesn't like 2 stroke fuel.
Posted by: Halfwise at December 15, 2016 10:39 PM (rB/gm)


I always double check the owners manual before I make the gas oil mix.
Also, I've bought used small appliances, including some really good new, or almost new ones. You can find websites that have the owners manuals to almost anything.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 11:26 PM (+lVUW)

435 The Ron Brown plane crash was particularly suspicious.

Yeah that one is the worst of them, and the least talked about. If he died from the plane crash, why is there a bullet hole in his skull?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:26 PM (39g3+)

436 Grew up with wood for heat. Had a woodstove in the kitchen. And another in the main room. When I was in beantown, radiators seemed a poor substitute (which they were). Here in Texas, every house - I've had three - I installed a woodstove and/or fireplace. Angel finds it a fascinating sort of stubbornness on my part.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 11:26 PM (fWCrN)

437 *Waves at Country Singer*

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:27 PM (exyD+)

438 428 Those water based heaters work really well, they give a nice heat almost as good as a fireplaece or wood stove. Just not great for the whole house, you gotta have one in every room.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:24 PM (39g3+)

Er, I do. There's a baseboard on most cold walls in the house.

The other alternative would be ducting and vents in every room. Which ... I personally dislike.

But I live in NH, so central air isn't a huge concern. If it was, then I'd probably do ducting and forced hot air.

I just prefer the "ambient heat" of baseboard heaters, and the fact that the temperatures dont fluctuate like mad due to dry hot air blowing in my face for 5 minutes, then it cooling down, then repeating.

Especially when it's in the single digits like it is right now and the furnace is running a lot.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:27 PM (WGxp4)

439

All wild birds are protected by state and federal laws, with the exception of the European
starling, rock (feral) pigeon, and English sparrow. This means that you cannot shoot at,
trap, poison, or otherwise kill, capture or possess one without a permit.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2016 11:27 PM (IqV8l)

440 I think the brain needs fat.

Well,then, I'm set.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 11:27 PM (IcT7t)

441 Dear SMFH, please stop being morbid.

It makes me want to swear and that would probably damage my morals.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2016 11:24 PM (wZCfc)


Hey, if morbid gets him through the day, be morbid. My grandmother became a much nicer, better person after she lost her marbles. If I'm lucky, things will happen similarly to me. It's totally cool.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2016 11:27 PM (CPk08)

442 >>I always double check the owners manual before I make the gas oil mix.



FTR - I have a 4 stroke Snowblower.

I wouldn't run a 2 Stroke dry for storage.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 11:27 PM (UD0Gq)

443 I missed something that apparently got yanked. Who is "Objection Sustained", and why is he so pissed?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 11:27 PM (+lVUW)

444 Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at December 15, 2016 11:20 PM (wwTGw)

Just for you I will play an entire Sammy Hagar Xmas LP followed up by an encore of Yoko.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 11:28 PM (voOPb)

445 WTK have I ever done to be punished with seeing Amy Schumer in yoga pants?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 15, 2016 11:28 PM (kTF2Z)

446 Hey, if morbid gets him through the day, be morbid.
My grandmother became a much nicer, better person after she lost her
marbles. If I'm lucky, things will happen similarly to me. It's totally
cool.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2016 11:27 PM (CPk0

SMFH is a female.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:28 PM (exyD+)

447 Looool

Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 11:28 PM (LfmaH)

448 Yeah I don't like forced air either, but its cheap and easy to get. Our wood stove will heat the house but we're all in our 50s now (all 3 brothers) and chopping wood doesn't hold the charm it once did. Plus its a huge amount of work to throw and stack that crap several cords a year.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:28 PM (39g3+)

449 436 Grew up with wood for heat. Had a woodstove in the kitchen. And another in the main room. When I was in beantown, radiators seemed a poor substitute (which they were). Here in Texas, every house - I've had three - I installed a woodstove and/or fireplace. Angel finds it a fascinating sort of stubbornness on my part.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 11:26 PM (fWCrN)

I have two woodstoves. They're nice, but I wouldn't want to use them as my primary heat source. Too cold for that... I'd burn 15 cords a year if I didn't use oil.

In the future, I'd like to get a wood boiler (even though they're semi-illegal now) to heat the house with.

Or maybe a better woodstove. I have cast iron, I'd like one with sandstone.

But again, that's way down the line.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:28 PM (WGxp4)

450 Aw, shucks.
Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:06 PM (exyD+)




well it's true. winsome lasses that know the difference between the American and european weather models are rare.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 11:29 PM (cPsPa)

451 433 I think the brain needs fat.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 11:26 PM (UD0Gq)


IIRC, the brain specifically needs cholesterol.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 11:29 PM (EzgxV)

452 448 Yeah I don't like forced air either, but its cheap and easy to get. Our wood stove will heat the house but we're all in our 50s now (all 3 brothers) and chopping wood doesn't hold the charm it once did. Plus its a huge amount of work to throw and stack that crap several cords a year.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:28 PM (39g3+)

Eh. I enjoy it. And luckily so does my dad (in his 60s). Between the two of us we can split and stack a few cords in a day.

But I cheat sometimes and borrow my buddies log splitter when I have a lot of wood to split at once.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:30 PM (WGxp4)

453 Compact Flouresent Lamp...no wait, Canadian Football League

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 15, 2016 11:15 PM (TnUKj)

Curly fry lights

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 15, 2016 11:30 PM (tHwdc)

454 >>IIRC, the brain specifically needs cholesterol.


We'll find out sooner or later that we need trans fats, too.


If the FDA is against it, it has to be a vital nutrient.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 11:31 PM (UD0Gq)

455 For the New Orleans morons or interested tourists, the Sazerac is getting its own museum. http://tinyurl.com/zsjwrvc

Posted by: no good deed at December 15, 2016 11:31 PM (hJamr)

456 443 I missed something that apparently got yanked. Who is "Objection Sustained", and why is he so pissed?
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 11:27 PM (+lVUW)

concern troll, I wouldn't worry about it. Don't know why Mis Hum banished him. Probably because he was a concern troll. ::shrug::

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:31 PM (WGxp4)

457 Hey, if morbid gets him through the day
--------------

He is one really beautiful dude. Just sayin'

Posted by: Chi at December 15, 2016 11:31 PM (ENQf8)

458 What about grackles, they've got to go.

Posted by: gNewt at December 15, 2016 11:31 PM (/8r1I)

459 I have forced air. House came with it. It's ok. Love the pellet stove. But they both run in this weather. Wish I could have oil heat.

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2016 11:31 PM (a62hT)

460 On the one hand it's illegal to burn wood here when the air get bad - on the other I have NEVER heard of any enforcement of the burn bans.

Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 11:32 PM (LfmaH)

461 449. Growing up, we measured winters in cords of oak

And we wore sweaters indoors, and let the dogs in. The house was never short-sleeves after November.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 11:32 PM (fWCrN)

462 Consequently, I didn't start cooking until I was 28. I plan on having the kids help cook on the weekends to get their feet wet. They definitely need to learn how.
Posted by: no good deed at December 15, 2016 10:40 PM (hJamr)


My mom started me out with buttercream frosting. Next was cake mix cake. Other things that kids could make fairly easily would be pancakes from pancake mix, French toast, grilled cheese, scrambled eggs, hamburgers, sloppy joes, smoked sausage with fried onions and peppers.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 11:32 PM (+lVUW)

463 Thread moving fast again, I see. Try to take a few moments to interact with Milady and get 100 comments behind.

I notice I got #333. Is that half-credit?

Normally I'm saying, don't feed the trolls, don't quote 'em back. But, funny thing, I didn't see the original posts so my curiosity is only satisfied by the the quotebacks. It's socks of one and half a shovel of another, I guess.

Posted by: mindful webworker - slow reader at December 15, 2016 11:33 PM (5a8XA)

464 Yeah? So I'd have to build out each individual thermostat (I'm sure a redditor has posted instructions), join them to an off-line wifi network, then could hook up touch screens to control them?

Hmmm... might not be a bad idea I guess

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 10:40 PM (WGxp4)

You know, zone valves tend to get sticky, and may not open readily when the heating system first gets called upon in the Fall. I have had to unscrew the "motor" which is much like an old-style electric clock movement, grab the stem of the valve with Vise-Grips, and work it to and fro until it turns freely. (And I have 50/50 water and glycol in the system).

I have considered removing the electric zone valves, and replacing them with simple quarter-turn stainless ball valves. Tweak the valves to get my desired balance between zones, and then use one thermostat to control the boiler. Don't know what a heating contractor would have to say about that.

N.B. I leave the temperature set at about 65 degrees all year round.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 11:33 PM (MiBfH)

465 459 I have forced air. House came with it. It's ok. Love the pellet stove. But they both run in this weather. Wish I could have oil heat.
Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2016 11:31 PM (a62hT)

...what do you have, propane?

Oil has its pros and cons. It's not too expensive right now, and its got more BTUs per gallon than propane, so it's working out well.

But a few years ago it was over double the price, which sucked.

It's creeping back up though. I was paying $1.75 a gallon last year, I just paid $1.95 a gallon to fill up this morning.

I have a 375 gallon tank, so... yeah. That $.20 a gallon is noticed.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:33 PM (WGxp4)

466 So the Seattle Highlighters beat the St Louis Copy Papers 24-3.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 15, 2016 11:34 PM (kTF2Z)

467 I have two woodstoves. They're nice, but I wouldn't want to use them as my primary heat source. Too cold for that... I'd burn 15 cords a year if I didn't use oil.

In the future, I'd like to get a wood boiler (even though they're semi-illegal now) to heat the house with.

Or maybe a better woodstove. I have cast iron, I'd like one with sandstone.

But again, that's way down the line.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:28 PM (WGxp4)




get one of the huge soapstone fireplaces.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2016 11:34 PM (cPsPa)

468
We'll find out sooner or later that we need trans fats, too.

We have the fat trans now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2016 11:34 PM (IqV8l)

469 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:31 PM (WGxp4)

He/she/it wanted to be banished
I obliged
Sometimes I take requests sometimes I don't
Tonight I did

You don't come into Aces house and shit on the carpet and walk out

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 11:34 PM (voOPb)

470 concern troll, I wouldn't worry about it. Don't know why Mis Hum banished him. Probably because he was a concern troll. ::shrug::

He flounced, that's why he got the banned.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 11:34 PM (IcT7t)

471 SMFH is a female.
Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:28 PM (exyD+)

I stand corrected. If SMFH is offended that I graced her with a male gender, I will suitably grovel without resentment, reserve, or internally giving even a microscopic crap. No offense. That aside, dementia can be scary for people who experience it, but it isn't always so bad, and may be much less pointless and cruel than some others I have seen. It is all about a bit of luck and in how the people you love handle it. Tricky stuff.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2016 11:34 PM (CPk08)

472 I have considered removing the electric zone valves, and replacing them with simple quarter-turn stainless ball valves. Tweak the valves to get my desired balance between zones, and then use one thermostat to control the boiler. Don't know what a heating contractor would have to say about that.

N.B. I leave the temperature set at about 65 degrees all year round.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 11:33 PM (MiBfH)

So this is a new house to me. Previously I had separate pumps for each zone. I'm not sure how the zone valves will hold up -- I've never really dealt with them before.

I also do all of my own HVAC (and well everything) work, so I'm sure I'll have a ton more to say on the subject by next winter

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:35 PM (WGxp4)

473 433 I think the brain needs fat.
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2016 11:26 PM (UD0Gq)
IIRC, the brain specifically needs cholesterol.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 11:29 PM

Yep, and that's why I head to some delicious leftovers and/or cookies about this time of night.

Be well all. I'm off for a food induced nap, maybe up later.

Posted by: Farmer at December 15, 2016 11:35 PM (o/90i)

474 What about grackles, they've got to go.

Better than the gannet. They wet their nests.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:35 PM (39g3+)

475 I got your stuck valves right here ...

Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 11:35 PM (LfmaH)

476 I have no admonition over people who enjoy Tucker Carlson. He verbally beats the shit out of retarded liberals who have no idea that there was an "Other Side".

What I don't understand is the continuing "entertainment value" of such one-sided beat-downs.

I gain nothing from such a confrontation other than a confirmation bias.

I get meat and skin from a baby seal, at least.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:35 PM (6gk0M)

477 Not offended, get it a lot, AASI.

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 11:36 PM (CRotO)

478 What's all this about fake gnus, then?

Posted by: zombie steve irwin at December 15, 2016 11:36 PM (11H2y)

479 He/she/it wanted to be banished
I obliged
Sometimes I take requests sometimes I don't
Tonight I did

You don't come into Aces house and shit on the carpet and walk out
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 11:34 PM (voOPb)

No need to defend yourself, I apologize if I came off as offensive or attacking you or whatnot.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:36 PM (WGxp4)

480 I wish we could turn the wood stove into a pellet stove or just replace it with one. But honestly, the chimney needs a lot of work, so we should probably not use it much anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:36 PM (39g3+)

481 Harry, no, Gas from those fuckers, Xcel. Propane it way too expensive here.

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2016 11:37 PM (a62hT)

482 467. My mother had these bricks you'd leave on the hearth, then wrap in flannel bags and put in the bed with you. Between those and a dozen or so hounds and various housecats, plus careful woodstove management, you could, with heavy covers and warm pajamas, be quite snug.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 11:37 PM (fWCrN)

483 So ObjectionSustained said he'd probably get banned, then he got banned, yet he keeps posting?

Not seeing the logic here.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 15, 2016 11:37 PM (D2vc1)

484 Chris Payne got fed up with Pelosi's kid filibustering and he finally let her have it. It was great to see...he was way too patient. Why don't they just cut the mic?

Posted by: vivi at December 15, 2016 11:38 PM (11H2y)

485 462 Consequently, I didn't start cooking until I was 28. I plan on having the kids help cook on the weekends to get their feet wet. They definitely need to learn how.
Posted by: no good deed at December 15, 2016 10:40 PM (hJamr)

My mom started me out with buttercream frosting. Next was cake mix cake. Other things that kids could make fairly easily would be pancakes from pancake mix, French toast, grilled cheese, scrambled eggs, hamburgers, sloppy joes, smoked sausage with fried onions and peppers.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2016 11:32 PM (+lVUW)



When the godkids visited, we usually cooked oatmeal cookies that started out as the recipe from the oatmeal container -- but we encouraged the kids to get creative -- both to "cheat" (we taught them to weigh the brown sugar instead of packing it into a cup) and to "enhance" (add a bit more cinnamon than was on the recipe, put in white chocolate chunks or nuts)....then we'd critique how they came out.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 11:38 PM (EzgxV)

486 My cats have taken to curling up in the path of the hot air blowing from the vents of my woodstove.

It snowed yesterday and it took me an hour and a half of sitting in a parking lot and then an hour of driving on ice at 20MPH to get home.

It rarely snows here, and it freaks everyone.


Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2016 11:38 PM (wZCfc)

487 481 Harry, no, Gas from those fuckers, Xcel. Propane it way too expensive here.
Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2016 11:37 PM (a62hT)

Ah. When I lived in the city, we had natural gas. I prefer it to oil.

Much cleaner burning and ended up being cheaper. And it's always there, on demand.

Oil is kind of a bitch. Have to monitor the oil levels and deal with your basement smelling like a gas station from time to time. And it's DIRTY -- I service my furnace 2x a year and its unbelievable how dirty it gets.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:39 PM (WGxp4)

488 @Christopher. Contact the Marion county juvenile alternative work program in Salem for your firewood next year. Good prices, they deliver, and will stack. Been using them going on 12 years. Get your name on their list.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 15, 2016 11:39 PM (b9JGJ)

489 Tonight's Feel Good story is sad. They had to give the kid a ride home after they gave him his gift. I guess they know the "humans" living in that neighborhood fairly well. Thinking ahead, his home will now be a target for thieves because he has a new video game in the house. America, diversity, etc., just great.

Posted by: goon at December 15, 2016 11:40 PM (EaQ6/)

490 You don't come into Aces house and shit on the carpet and walk out

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 11:34 PM (voOPb)

Sure we can!

Posted by: EPA drone at December 15, 2016 11:40 PM (8iiMU)

491 CRT, I had a pellet stove installed with the chimney going out the wall instead of the ceiling. I just love it. Sitting next to it in my rocking chair now.

Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2016 11:40 PM (a62hT)

492 Slap, I'm enjoying the nightly beat downs mainly because I feel my voice has been silenced for years so it's cathartic to watch him let themselves destroy all credibility while I cannot do it myself to my friends on FB

Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 11:40 PM (LfmaH)

493 That's not a hoverboard. You can tell because it has wheels, stays on the ground, and at no point does it actually hover. I don't care what the liars trying to sell the damn thing say, it's just a variation on a skateboard.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 15, 2016 10:51 PM (R+30W)

^^^this^^^

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 11:41 PM (MiBfH)

494 480 I wish we could turn the wood stove into a pellet stove or just replace it with one. But honestly, the chimney needs a lot of work, so we should probably not use it much anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:36 PM (39g3+)

the flue or the chimney? My chimney for my furnace needs to be completely redone (it's crumbling cement block) but the flue is good, so no problem using it.

Previous-previous owner of the house used triple insulated stove pipe for everything. Kind of overkill, but it means I could tear down the cement block ugly ass chimney if I wanted to (which I may do) and just leave the stove pipe.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:41 PM (WGxp4)

495 Posted by: Random Joe at December 15, 2016 11:40 PM (LfmaH)

Yeah. I get that.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:41 PM (6gk0M)

496 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:36 PM (WGxp4)

No probs Harry
Just letting everyone know my philosophy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 11:41 PM (voOPb)

497
I have the entire CD, but it doesn't get better than this, IMHO. Every artist contributes and the whole piece is as uplifting a Christmas song as I have ever heard.

https://youtu.be/DLdK8dB32Rk

Mary's Little Boy Chile
Jester Hairston

A Carnegie Hall Christmas Concert (Sony, 1992)
Andre Previn, New York Philharmonic Orchestra
Wynton Marsalis, Kathleen Battle, Frederica von Stade, Harlem Boys' Choir

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 15, 2016 11:41 PM (BK3ZS)

498 the brain needs protein I think

You can keep telling the wife that but I don't think its gonna work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:25 PM (39g3+)

Ha I knew it wouldn't take long.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 15, 2016 11:42 PM (D2vc1)

499 Holy crap. Genius award winner tonight is from the paper where I work. Dudes, I come here to ESCAPE my job!

Which story was it, BTW? It won't load on my phone. I'm assuming it was either the enterprising tattoo artist or the nekkid burglar...

Posted by: Ex-liberal at December 15, 2016 11:42 PM (XLZh6)

500 "Quite a few of the Moron Horde lives in snow country. What are your snow removal methods? Plow? Snow blower?"

Flame thrower.

No, seriously -- I have a very large propane powered torch for melting ice. And a Cat 247B tracked skid steer. And a 4WD truck with Blizzaks, and a winch.

And sometimes it's almost not enough.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at December 15, 2016 11:43 PM (VSenK)

501 One of the coolest ideas I have seen was at my ex's Mom's house.
They had a secondary air intake for the forced air system installed just above the wood stove.
When they burn a fire, they simply seal off the original one and just turn on the fan setting on the thermostat. Nice, warm heat through the house for next to nothing.

Posted by: Chi at December 15, 2016 11:43 PM (qc1G2)

502 AJ doesn't get that much snow.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 15, 2016 10:52 PM (IcT7t)

When it snows on Four Peaks, I can see it from here. But I still have my home in Alberta, and we get a dump from time to time. Generally dry, powdery snow, but I have seen it get welded into a brick-like substance that would be perfect for building igloos. Such a firm crust, you can walk on it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 11:44 PM (MiBfH)

503 So this is a new house to me. Previously I had separate pumps for each
zone. I'm not sure how the zone valves will hold up -- I've never really
dealt with them before.



I also do all of my own HVAC (and well everything) work, so I'm sure I'll have a ton more to say on the subject by next winter ///

If what you need is a way to observe and track how things are working for future improvement. Something like this may be helpful.


http://preview.tinyurl.com/z6bxg6e

Posted by: Willy J. at December 15, 2016 11:45 PM (bqN/x)

504 My grandmother passed from Alzheimers. I visited her at my aunt's place when she was past remembering me, but she was still happy to have a visitor and still having good times. Unfortunately, she got to the point where she was a continuous danger to herself and others (e.g. putting plugged-in and turned-on curling irons into dresser drawers) and the constant monitoring was too much for my aunt to bear.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 11:45 PM (EzgxV)

505 Marion county juvenile alternative work program

I'll check them out, might be worth doing. I do prefer wood heat by far. Its just that by the time we get around to buying wood its more expensive than gas. Particularly with my thin blooded older brothers burning 18 logs a day.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:45 PM (39g3+)

506 On the rare occasions when snow is a problem at Rancho Webworker, we just stock up beforehand and wait - never hangs around long in Oklahoma.

However, if it does hang around, our neighbor's son-in-law come by with the big tractor with the blade and scrapes off our driveway after doing his Dad-in-Law's. Handy.

Posted by: mindful webworker - let it snow at December 15, 2016 11:45 PM (5a8XA)

507 501 One of the coolest ideas I have seen was at my ex's Mom's house.
They had a secondary air intake for the forced air system installed just above the wood stove.
When they burn a fire, they simply seal off the original one and just turn on the fan setting on the thermostat. Nice, warm heat through the house for next to nothing.
Posted by: Chi at December 15, 2016 11:43 PM (qc1G2)

My new house has a single duct with an inline fan from the wood stove in the basement to a vent near the bedrooms. I'm excited to utilize that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:45 PM (WGxp4)

508 OK, I'm out for the night. Y'all take care.

Posted by: Country Singer (Gab @BertG) at December 15, 2016 11:47 PM (GUBah)

509 I'm excited to utilize that.

Extra credit for proper use of the word "utilize" instead of trying to seem smart by throwing it out instead of "use."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:47 PM (39g3+)

510
Better than the gannet. They wet their nests.


You'll not find that in Olsen's Standard Book of British Birds, the expurgated version.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 15, 2016 11:47 PM (BK3ZS)

511 Learning to cook makes eating cheaper, it gives you more options of what to eat, and it really impresses the girls, especially when you make cookies.

Tonight I made potato bread, and it is tasty. It's just not very crusty.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2016 11:48 PM (wZCfc)

512 469 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:31 PM (WGxp4)

He/she/it wanted to be banished
I obliged
Sometimes I take requests sometimes I don't
Tonight I did

You don't come into Aces house and shit on the carpet and walk out

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 15, 2016 11:34 PM (voOPb)



I figured his odds at about 70/30. He started out ok, but got into a real ugly froth at the end.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 11:48 PM (EzgxV)

513 I live in a section of Galveston with no natural gas infrastructure. No such utilities underground, couldn't get it if I wanted it.

The house was built with electric heat. Terribly inefficient, that. But, the problem with any tank-based system, such as oil or propane, is that those tanks can and will go floating away with rising flood waters.

Only way to solve that is with a ranch-style elevated tank with containment apron. And then try to rig it so the City doesn't go apeshit trying to get removed.

That's the only thing that ever makes living in Austin a consideration. No shortage of patchouli soaked hippies to throw onto the fire.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2016 11:49 PM (v5iqM)

514 Pretty late to the party, but can I just say to "musical jolly chimp":

Go get fucked in every orifice of your flabby ass beta male body by an ebola infested elephant, you pissant, pathetic, petulant wormy little twat waffle.

P.S. Merry Christmas everyone!

Posted by: John Nada - Formerly #NeverHillary at December 15, 2016 11:49 PM (e4QWB)

515 504. My great grandmother and her sister both had PD, as I do. Great grandmother had dementia, and used to call me by my grandfather's name. None of us ever corrected her. Her baby sister, who doed this year, spent her last day on earth cursing the hospice people on three languages for wasting her time and being in hwr house.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 11:49 PM (fWCrN)

516 You should see the boob's on this KCAL weather chick telling me that it's raining.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 15, 2016 10:58 PM (6Ll1u)

How do you know it's raining? Does the water drip off her nipples?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2016 11:49 PM (MiBfH)

517 slapweasel, you still around? Did I get it right that you hurt in the neck? Milady and I had very good luck with longstanding problems after going to a NUCCA chiropractor. Gentle press on the neck to adjust the upper cervical "Atlas" bone into place and stop it pressing on that main nerve going from brain to body - not the twist-and-grind usual chiropractor, which method I tried once and never would again. If it's what's wrong, it works.

Remember: You can always trust legal, medical, financial, and dating advice you get from blog commenters.

Posted by: mindful webworker - medical malpractitioner at December 15, 2016 11:49 PM (5a8XA)

518 The last time I saw my grandma, who was in the depths of dementia, I insisted on taking her to a Catholic service at the nursing home. At the end of the service she was fingering the Rosary beads as she drifted in and out of sleep. She had prayed the Rosary every day for years.

Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2016 11:49 PM (exyD+)

519 Ah, dinner is served, wine is uncorked, and videos are cued up. BBL. Or not.

Posted by: mindful webworker - easy go at December 15, 2016 11:50 PM (5a8XA)

520
Tonight I made potato bread, and it is tasty. It's just not very crusty.
Posted by: Kindltot


*pachi, pachi, pachi*

Never tried that recipe.

did you try the water spritzing?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 15, 2016 11:51 PM (SkR14)

521 G'Night, Country Singer.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:51 PM (6gk0M)

522 3% of the eagle population is killed legally annually.
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Were there 32 other guys in the Eagles aside from Glen Frey?
Posted by: gewa76


Don Henley keeps replicating and is hard to kill.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 11:52 PM (u8kLQ)

523 nite all. time to retire for the evening. everybody sleep well, and stay warm.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 11:52 PM (KP5rU)

524 @464, I did that valve conversion, on the advice of a master plumber, and like it just fine. One old mercury-switch thermostat "bottom-limits" the whole system, and the rest is done by the Aquastat on the boiler. I used to have to rock the balancers several times a year as it got colder and warmer. I guess I finally got it right, because now all I do is reset the run temp on the Aquastat for fall and winter.

I use quarter-turn ball valved on the feed side, and slow-ratio gate valves on the return, so can control the speed of the water running through each circuit.

The original system (1963! ) let the main pump shut off when no circuit was calling for heat. That went through a coupling pretty fast, so we started messing the the engineering. I've seen systems with a separate pump for each circuit, instead of a valve. If those had several speeds, I'd see the sense of it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 15, 2016 11:53 PM (H5rtT)

525 niters chavez

Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 11:53 PM (CRotO)

526 How do you know it's raining? Does the water drip off her nipples?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


She wears a white T-shirt and stands outside without an umbrella...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 11:53 PM (u8kLQ)

527 517. Heh....first time i suspected my angel liked me somewhat was when she grabbed me one day and popped my upper back. At work, mind you. 'I'm sick of seeing you slouch around ,' she said. Sounded like a bomb going off.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 11:56 PM (fWCrN)

528 Previous-previous owner of the house used triple insulated stove pipe for everything. Kind of overkill, but it means I could tear down the cement block ugly ass chimney if I wanted to (which I may do) and just leave the stove pipe.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:41 PM (WGxp4)


Triple wall used to be code here in So. Ill. They reduced it to double wall about 12 years ago, or so. I still have 5 36" lengths of it stored away (and 2 rolled down the hill in the lake that I haven't retrieved yet). I was going to reuse it, but may just re-install with double wall.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at December 15, 2016 11:58 PM (wq8Cl)

529 I have to say that I am a great fan of 1/4-turn ball valves. I've had to repack a couple of the valves in this house and it wouldn't upset me one bit if I never had to do that again.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 15, 2016 11:58 PM (EzgxV)

530 G'Night, Chavez.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 15, 2016 11:58 PM (6gk0M)

531 477 Not offended, get it a lot, AASI.
Posted by: SMFH at December 15, 2016 11:36 PM (CRotO0


waaal, good. I don't try to offend, I just don't care that much for people who are willing to be offended by stupid stuff. Plus, I'm half-way hammered. Have a good night. Toodles.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2016 11:59 PM (CPk08)

532 She wears a white T-shirt and stands outside without an umbrella...
Posted by: qdpsteve

I don't suppose they have an online forecast?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 15, 2016 11:59 PM (TnUKj)

533 Going to call it a night. For those who need to shovel snow, shovel early, shovel often.

Posted by: Vendette at December 16, 2016 12:00 AM (exyD+)

534 505 Marion county juvenile alternative work program

I'll check them out, might be worth doing. I do prefer wood heat by far. Its just that by the time we get around to buying wood its more expensive than gas. Particularly with my thin blooded older brothers burning 18 logs a day.

Whoo hoo!! Just figured out how to copy and paste on the kindle.

Same here on the wood heat. We have one fireplace insert and a regular fireplace. I really should move or buy a new insert for the other fireplace. We put in 750 square feet of heated tile in the part of the house where insert is and I'm finding that it does a nice job of heating the living and cooking areas of the house. Putting the insert in the other fireplace would push the heat towards the sleeping areas.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 16, 2016 12:00 AM (b9JGJ)

535 "The Curse of Oak Island"

...a show about nothing.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:01 AM (6gk0M)

536 Never tried that recipe.



did you try the water spritzing?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 15, 2016 11:51 PM (SkR14)


I don't really have a recipe, what I do is throw in a handful of potato flakes when working up the dough with a bread-hook. It makes a stickier dough, so I roll it in extra flour a bit so I can work it.

I also put a 6" cast iron pan with water in the oven so it bakes very steamy and that does make a difference. I am not sure if taking it out half way through like the books say is important or not, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.
The potato makes the bread more tender, like commercial sandwich bread.

My whole wheat bread, made with a cup of cracked wheat soaked with the yeast and flour starter tends to be crustier. It also tends to be tougher and heavier

Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2016 12:01 AM (wZCfc)

537 G'Night, Vendette.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:01 AM (6gk0M)

538 concern troll, I wouldn't worry about it. Don't know why Mis Hum banished him. Probably because he was a concern troll. ::shrug::
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:31 PM (WGxp4)


Thanks. Sometimes this place is like a soap opera.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 16, 2016 12:01 AM (+lVUW)

539 ::shrug:: 1970's Tecumseh engine. Thing won't die. Isn't too picky.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:23 PM (WGxp4)

FWIW, I have dealt with several 1970's vintage air-cooled engines that lost compression and became hard to start due to the seat of the intake valve receding. Now one would think that the exhaust valve seat gets more abuse, because, hot gases. But for some obscure reason, it's the intake valve that goes. Maybe the exhaust seats are hardened? Anyway, the fix is easy: grind the end of the valve stem on a bench grinder until the desired clearance is achieved (plus a tad).

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2016 12:02 AM (MiBfH)

540 Got a 'niece' from northern China who talks about these things called 'kang' - bed-platforms built ober the horizontal flues of small charcoal stoves. Supposed to be quite cozy. Those and braziers were all they had, out on the steppes.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:02 AM (fWCrN)

541 Posted by: Octiparan at December 16, 2016 12:00 AM (b9JGJ

How much extra was the heat in the floor. Need to do my floors, but it will be a ways off now.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2016 12:02 AM (a62hT)

542 381 370 i never put ethanol in my car, or any other things i have that use gasoline. never have a problem. ethanol sucks donkey dick.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2016 11:11 PM (KP5rU)

Yeah, I once thought I'd follow that plan, so I found some site that tells you the nearest place to get pure gasoline. "Drive for 90 minutes, and there's this boat pier..." No.
Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2016 11:14 PM (iMxBJ)



I found the same website, and there's a place only a few minutes away from me that sells pure gasoline.

But it's 98 octane racing fuel that costs $9.00/gallon. So using it in my car is out of the question, but I do use it in my lawn mower, weed whacker, and snow blower. My little 1.25 gallon gas can lasts about two months, so the extra expense is no big deal.

Posted by: rickl at December 16, 2016 12:03 AM (sdi6R)

543 We used wood heat all last year and most of this year, so when we tried to fire up the furnace, it did nothing. The cause?

The gas intake was full of spiders. Little teeny ones and webs. No gas could get through.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2016 12:04 AM (39g3+)

544 Retired from an electric utility. Had to drive all over the state of Indiana working in substations. We had a safety meeting where we were told never to pick up any kind of feathers because only "Native Americans" were allowed to possess any of them.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


I was told by an Indian woman that in order to get them they have to go through the department of interior. I don't think anyone can just pick up an eagle feather and keep it. Indians can get them, but have to go through some red tape in DC

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 16, 2016 12:04 AM (+lVUW)

545 Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2016 11:49 PM (v5iqM)

Yeah, electric heat sucks. But it can't get that cold in TX where it's a real concern, right?

At least it wouldn't for me -- I keep my heat in the 50's, in a typical new england winter I'm heating my house from December - March, the rest of the year I just suck it up.

I've never gone through a whole tank in a year to date.

Although I have friends who go through a 275 gallon tank in a month and keep their heat at 70 from October through April. Which is nuts.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2016 12:05 AM (WGxp4)

546 515 504. My great grandmother and her sister both had PD, as I do. Great grandmother had dementia, and used to call me by my grandfather's name. None of us ever corrected her. Her baby sister, who doed this year, spent her last day on earth cursing the hospice people on three languages for wasting her time and being in hwr house.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 15, 2016 11:49 PM (fWCrN)

I pray regularly for everyone that has or is effected by Neurological disease you are in my prayers and didn't even know:-P.. It runs in my family grandmother past away with it, mom is still kickin around, my brother is in a power chair i'm barely mobil my son has been diagnosed and is in early stages. Progression is uneven person to person. (SCA, spinalcerrabellar ataxia)

Posted by: USNtakim at December 16, 2016 12:05 AM (hMqvx)

547 There's an old oil tank in the basement for when the house had oil heat at some point. There's probably confederate money hidden in the walls or something, this place has a lot of history. Built in 1919 which in the grand scheme of things isn't terribly old, but its almost 100 years and that's a long time for a house around here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2016 12:06 AM (39g3+)

548 I found the same website, and there's a place only a few minutes away from me that sells pure gasoline.
But it's 98 octane racing fuel that costs $9.00/gallon.
Posted by: rickl


Rickl, is it a "Trick" gasoline station by any chance?
I remember there used to be a few of them here in SoCal.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 16, 2016 12:07 AM (u8kLQ)

549 Chi, I have that ducting system. Since the house, as finished, didn't have any ductwork, when I finally gave in and installed A/C, I used the high-V system with flexible insulated ducts. Looks like the movie Brazil up in there. I put one of the returns just above the woodstove.

When I took the boiler out of service one winter to revise a circuit, I was able to heat the whole house pretty easily with the woodstove and the A/C fan blowing through those ducts. I use it as a booster when we have extended below-zero.

Also, there's one of those Magic Heat exchangers in the first, short upright smoke pipe. I wouldn't have a stove without one. Just about triples the output.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2016 12:07 AM (H5rtT)

550 Snow scoop, for snow removal, commonly known as a Yooper Scooper, used here in PA where our "driveway" is only one car length. When I use it, the neighbors gawk and wonder what it is. Don't have to use it here as much as I did when I lived in lower Michigan.

Posted by: Pet Pal at December 16, 2016 12:07 AM (t1RKl)

551 "The Curse of Oak Island"



...a show about nothing.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:01 AM (6gk0M)
"The Selection" coming on again later this morning on the History channel is kinda interesting. Like the BUDs training documentary but with civilians.

Posted by: Willy J. at December 16, 2016 12:07 AM (bqN/x)

552 546. And you are in mine. I'm lucky it was caught early, and am doing all I can to manage it. I use a walking stick when I have to, and hide my 'bad hand' behind my back, so no one knows. It's not great, but others have it worse.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:07 AM (fWCrN)

553 What's all this about fake gnus, then?

Posted by: zombie steve irwin at December 15, 2016 11:36 PM (11H2y)

Passing counterfeit wildebeests?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2016 12:08 AM (MiBfH)

554 "The Curse of Oak Island"

...a show about nothing.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:01 AM (6gk0M)




well, what about the casing oscillator?



hunting hitler is about even less

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2016 12:08 AM (cPsPa)

555 I'm gonna head to bed but I want to leave one Christmas recommendation: Annie Lennox has an album called Christmas Cornucopia that's just wonderful. She has an amazing, unusual voice and turns all the songs into something fascinating with a celtic sort of bent. And none of those obnoxious earworms or stupid Santa songs, it all very old and traditional.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2016 12:08 AM (39g3+)

556 night Vendette

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2016 12:09 AM (cPsPa)

557 Snow removal advice from a Syracuse native (Buffalo gets more attention but 7 years out of 10, Syracuse gets more snow).

Use the right shovel for the job, especially if you're in a mid-Atlantic or central area that gets different kinds of snow. I have a plastic-blade ergonomic-handle (bent) shovel for lifting. Use that for the powdery snow and when you have more than three inches.

My plow-blade shovel is the cat's whiskers when it's the wet and sloppy snow. It's a solid steel blade that curves up. I cock it on an angle and just slide on down the walk and the snow comes off it like the surf breaking at Waikiki.

Grain scoops are the wrong tool: you try and take a big bite with one and the snow falls off the back. Coal scuttles are the wrong tool too: they're too small so you're spending your energy lifting the shovel instead of the snow.

Posted by: Otto Zilch at December 16, 2016 12:09 AM (5uQlQ)

558 Slapweasel are you in NE Ohio?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2016 12:10 AM (cPsPa)

559 Christopher R Taylor, it was a *long* time ago (I think even before 9/11), but Annie Lennox once did an interview where they talked about abortion.

She provided her pro-choice bona fides, but then said... as I recall it, "there's nothing sadder than an abortion."

Took guts for her to say it, IMHO.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 16, 2016 12:11 AM (u8kLQ)

560 539 ::shrug:: 1970's Tecumseh engine. Thing won't die. Isn't too picky.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2016 11:23 PM (WGxp4)

FWIW, I have dealt with several 1970's vintage air-cooled engines that lost compression and became hard to start due to the seat of the intake valve receding. Now one would think that the exhaust valve seat gets more abuse, because, hot gases. But for some obscure reason, it's the intake valve that goes. Maybe the exhaust seats are hardened? Anyway, the fix is easy: grind the end of the valve stem on a bench grinder until the desired clearance is achieved (plus a tad).

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2016 12:02 AM (MiBfH)



Intake valves are smaller.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2016 12:11 AM (EzgxV)

561
Got a 'niece' from northern China who talks about these things called
'kang' - bed-platforms built ober the horizontal flues of small charcoal
stoves. Supposed to be quite cozy. Those and braziers were all they
had, out on the steppes.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:02 AM (fWCrN)


Look up "Russian Stoves" or "Rocket Stove Mass Heaters"

Some of the traditional Russian stove set ups are for putting a bed on, but mostly they just heat up masses of masonry or rock.
I asked a friend who grew up in Germany and they had a "Russian" stove, and I asked if it was to put a bed on and he looked at me like I thought he grew up with a bone through his nose.

The Rocket stoves are supposed to be extra efficient, but have some engineering quirks, the inventors had to burn some out to realize that mild steel does not hold up to wood smoke.

(and tend to be the sort of people who think cob is a good building material for everything)

Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2016 12:12 AM (wZCfc)

562 559. She's not nothing, that one. Haunting voice and a rare beauty.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:12 AM (fWCrN)

563 Palpatine, yup. And doesn't mouth off about politics very often.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 16, 2016 12:13 AM (u8kLQ)

564 How much extra was the heat in the floor. Need to do my floors, but it will be a ways off now.

It cost about $1400 for the electric mats from Warming Systems in Chicago. That was about 400 sq feet including two thermostats. I misspoke when I said 750 sq heated tile. I didn't heat the title in areas where people wouldn't typically walk. I did have to pay for an electrician to add 20 amps to the breaker box. That was about $500.

It has been a great investment.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 16, 2016 12:13 AM (b9JGJ)

565 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at December 16, 2016 12:14 AM (ZLQuU)

566 Also, there's one of those Magic Heat exchangers in the first, short upright smoke pipe. I wouldn't have a stove without one. Just about triples the output.
Posted by: Stringer Davis
------------------

I'll have to ask if they have one. Never heard of it.
I'd love to have a small wood stove , but the expense precludes me from doing it any time soon.
I was offered a small pellet stove at a pretty good price, but passed on it - I can get all the firewood I want for free. Just have to do the work.

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 12:14 AM (qc1G2)

567 I'll check them out, might be worth doing. I do prefer wood heat by far. Its just that by the time we get around to buying wood its more expensive than gas. Particularly with my thin blooded older brothers burning 18 logs a day.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2016 11:45 PM (39g3+)

Are there any "community forests" anywhere near you? Places where you are permitted to go and fell trees for firewood? We have such in Alberta, but it's the better part of a hundred miles one way, so I have never considered going to wood heat. Coal, probably, in the near future.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2016 12:14 AM (MiBfH)

568 But for some obscure reason, it's the intake valve that goes. Maybe the exhaust seats are hardened? Anyway, the fix is easy: grind the end of the valve stem on a bench grinder until the desired clearance is achieved (plus a tad).

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


AoSHQ / Mechanics edition = youtube gold

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2016 12:14 AM (SkR14)

569 Yeah, I'm in NE Ohio, Y5.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:15 AM (6gk0M)

570
I never make threats--I simply state an outcome.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 16, 2016 12:15 AM (X35Yt)

571 561. Familiar with both systems. 'Masonry mass' and 'rocket stoves' are both answers, but each with its own problems. Farmers of Forty Centuries talks about this, among other things. People in cold climates have more or less perfected the heat problem.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:15 AM (fWCrN)

572 About 20 mi. S of Cleveland.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:16 AM (6gk0M)

573 In the Toledo Museum of Art is a "Swiss Room" that has a woodstove filling about half a cabin. There is a bedstead built right into the top of it, and the flue is shaped to dump heat all through the living area on the way out. The entire issue is made of beautifully embellished glazed porcelain. You wanted to be pretty careful slinging the old firewood around in there.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2016 12:16 AM (H5rtT)

574 The house was built with electric heat. Terribly inefficient, that. But, the problem with any tank-based system, such as oil or propane, is that those tanks can and will go floating away with rising flood waters.

Only way to solve that is with a ranch-style elevated tank with containment apron. And then try to rig it so the City doesn't go apeshit trying to get removed.

That's the only thing that ever makes living in Austin a consideration. No shortage of patchouli soaked hippies to throw onto the fire.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 15, 2016 11:49 PM (v5iqM)

Seems to me Galveston would be an ideal site for an electrically-powered heat pump system. Double as central air in the summer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2016 12:16 AM (MiBfH)

575 Irongrampa!

Welcome back, Sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:16 AM (6gk0M)

576 Horde, question about the timeline of new tech. The saying is that every year usually brings twice as much power for half as much money, right?

Which according to what I see on the web, means that in two years I'll be able to get a 4TB SSD drive for about $300. Or so I hope.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 16, 2016 12:17 AM (u8kLQ)

577 AOP, in Oregon you can get BLM permits to cut firewood - usually downed trees or wood off of slash piles, or you can know someone who has a woodlot who will let you cut.
A friend of the family bitches about her deceased husband who bought a log truck worth of chip-grade logs and had them dumped in the driveway so he could cut them up one summer.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2016 12:18 AM (wZCfc)

578 Chi- There is a local place here. Had a late spring sale on pellet stoves. You could put it on lay-a-way. Had it paid by Sept. and installed in Oct. Best investment I made. Something about fire and heat. BFF that passed gave me a jumper type contraption so if there is no power, I can jump it from the truck. Haven't had to use it yet.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2016 12:18 AM (a62hT)

579 Kindltot, how did Black Lives Matter manage to inject themselves into the lumber biz?!?!? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 16, 2016 12:19 AM (u8kLQ)

580 562, 563.
Proof:

Julia, from the soundtrack to Nineteen Eighty-Four:

https://youtu.be/buGo4dm5xGI

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:20 AM (fWCrN)

581 555 I'm gonna head to bed but I want to leave one Christmas recommendation: Annie Lennox has an album called Christmas Cornucopia that's just wonderful. She has an amazing, unusual voice and turns all the songs into something fascinating with a celtic sort of bent. And none of those obnoxious earworms or stupid Santa songs, it all very old and traditional.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 16, 2016 12:08 AM (39g3+)

--I like Annie and all, but have you *not* heard any Christmas songs performed by Loreena McKennitt???

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfNHPO3kZjupan_0J52e4g8zYmxKgL-6b

Posted by: logprof at December 16, 2016 12:20 AM (emDjj)

582 Yeah, I'm in NE Ohio, Y5.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:15 AM (6gk0M)




I am going to be in and out of there for a while. when you are available we should grab a drink.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2016 12:20 AM (cPsPa)

583 I think you are speaking of "Moore's Law", qdpsteve.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:20 AM (6gk0M)

584 Slap, ah, thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 16, 2016 12:21 AM (u8kLQ)

585 "I am going to be in and out of there for a while. when you are available we should grab a drink."
-Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2016 12:20 AM (cPsPa)

Name the time and place, amigo!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:21 AM (6gk0M)

586 Kindltot, how did Black Lives Matter manage to inject themselves into the lumber biz?!?!? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 16, 2016 12:19 AM (u8kLQ)


Bureau of Land Management. The Forest Service sells firewood permits. They also sell permits to cut Salal, wild fir boughs for wreaths, and permits to gather moss.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2016 12:22 AM (wZCfc)

587 Which according to what I see on the web, means that in two years I'll be able to get a 4TB SSD drive for about $300. Or so I hope.
Posted by: qdpsteve


Moore's Law doesn't necessarily apply to storage.

There are things like energy costs, regulatory costs, etc. will apply inequitably.



Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2016 12:23 AM (SkR14)

588 Wow Kin, I learn new stuff here every day. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 16, 2016 12:23 AM (u8kLQ)

589
Although I have friends who go through a 275 gallon tank in a month and keep their heat at 70 from October through April. Which is nuts.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2016 12:05 AM (WGxp4)



Very high humidity here, with temps in the 50's or '60s, absolutely requires a running furnace to keep the house free of mold n' mildew. That, and a bone-chilling damp and penetrating cold.

If we had Colorado type "dry" cold, we too, could tolerate lower temps without the heat on.

But the climate here, absolutely demands the drying effects of some heat, or the house will turn into a nightmare petri dish of mold n' mildew nightmares and horror.

For example. You'd try to dry off from a shower, but your towel would be cold and damp.

That's what it'd be like here without running heat on most cooler days on this part of the Gulf Coast.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 16, 2016 12:23 AM (v5iqM)

590 Infidel, do not go to a big box store for your electric mats. Huge rip off. I saved $2,000 by going directly to the mat company for the same amount of mats I paid $1,400.

Posted by: Octiparan at December 16, 2016 12:23 AM (b9JGJ)

591 548
Rickl, is it a "Trick" gasoline station by any chance?
I remember there used to be a few of them here in SoCal.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 16, 2016 12:07 AM (u8kLQ)


No, it's a local HVAC place that has a whole tank farm out back with gasoline, diesel, propane, heating oil, and probably other stuff I've forgotten.

Posted by: rickl at December 16, 2016 12:23 AM (sdi6R)

592 weft-cut, what I've noticed is, the prices stay the same, but the storage capacities keep growing yearly.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 16, 2016 12:24 AM (u8kLQ)

593 I wouldn't have a stove without one. Just about triples the output.
Posted by: Stringer Davis
--------

I've often wondered if extracting that heat from the flue doesn't increase soot build-up in the flue.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2016 12:24 AM (ZO497)

594 "Moore's Law doesn't necessarily apply to storage.

There are things like energy costs, regulatory costs, etc. will apply inequitably.
"
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2016 12:23 AM (SkR14)

^This is True^

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:24 AM (6gk0M)

595 581. Heh...dates me, but I first heard of her from listening to Art Bell and Matt Drudge on the radio. Mummer's Song, it was.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:25 AM (fWCrN)

596 Howdy, Jim.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:26 AM (6gk0M)

597 Anyways, who remembers Plastic Bertrand and the song Ca Plane Pour Moi?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v98HEQvtpgo

I couldn't believe the number of covers made of this. It may actually BE a cover.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2016 12:26 AM (wZCfc)

598 Electric heat isn't "inefficient" from a physics standpoint, it's just that electricity is, you know, a way of transporting energy, not making it. Back when many of us chose to believe that the atomic miracle was going to make future electricity cheaper and cheaper, it was a fair-enough decision. Things turned out badly, that is all.

For a while in the 70's, I questioned the wisdom of this family's commitment to a natural gas boiler. As things went along, I ended up converting the clothes dryer and water heater to gas. These aren't engineering decisions so much as political ones. Someday, electric heat may be back.

I miss the electric dryer in the winter. I had a vent-switching box that would direct the moist hot exhaust through a nylon sock-toe into the main rooms. It was luxurious. You can't do that with gas! But, the operating cost is, hmm, probably one-third as much.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2016 12:26 AM (H5rtT)

599 Intake valves are smaller.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2016 12:11 AM (EzgxV)

No. They are normally bigger; rarely the same size as exhaust valves. Reason being, all you have pushing fuel mixture into the engine cylinder is atmospheric pressure, feeding into a partial vacuum caused by the piston descending in the cylinder.

Exhaust valve can be smaller, because the hot exhaust gases are at many times atmospheric pressure at the time the valve opens, and exhausts into basically an infinite volume, so back pressure isn't a concern, unless a restrictive muffler is fitted.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2016 12:27 AM (MiBfH)

600 Name the time and place, amigo!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:21 AM (6gk0M)




ok. will set something up for early January?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2016 12:29 AM (cPsPa)

601 Stop-by and I'll buy, Y5!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:29 AM (6gk0M)

602 I talked a little bit about this Christmas album last night...

http://www.deanamartin.com/album/white-christmas

She's Dean Martin's daughter. She was a guest on Eric Metaxas's show recently. She had all sorts of interesting stories about her dad, and her Uncle Frank and Uncle Sammy. This album also has a duet with Andy Williams, the last thing he recorded before he died.

They played a few snippets from the album; she does sound quite a bit like her father (although, obviously, more feminine).

One interesting thing she said was that Dean died at 3:15am on Christmas morning in 1996, while his mother died at 3:15am on Christmas morning in 1965. Pretty crazy, huh?

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 16, 2016 12:29 AM (0OG8D)

603 You can't do that with gas! But, the operating cost is, hmm, probably one-third as much.
Posted by: Stringer Davis
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Sure you can... *yawn*... gosh... I sure am sleepy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2016 12:30 AM (ZO497)

604 Where are you headed? I can meet you anywhere you stop on your route.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:31 AM (6gk0M)

605 They also sell permits to cut Salal, wild fir boughs for wreaths, and permits to gather moss.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2016 12:22 AM (wZCfc)

So no permits needed for us then?

Posted by: Mick and Keef at December 16, 2016 12:31 AM (MiBfH)

606 Evenin', bruddah Slap!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 16, 2016 12:32 AM (v5iqM)

607 Howdy, Jim!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:33 AM (6gk0M)

608 Y5: email address is home made gravy 71, (all one word), at the yooha dot com.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:36 AM (6gk0M)

609 My daughter and grandbabbies are in NE Ohio, Canton/Akron area. I hear it's cold there.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 16, 2016 12:37 AM (6Ll1u)

610 Our house we bought in the Adirondacks is baseboard hot water, gas furnace. First time I ever had gas, always was oil/fireplace prior. Still mildly uneasy about using gas, due to the fact a house on our former road blew up one year.

So this unit gets watched like a hawk and yearly has a thorough inspection. Same goes for our water heater, it's also gas.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 16, 2016 12:37 AM (X35Yt)

611 @593 Hammer, I'm blessed with a system designed for that sort of thing.
There's a short vertical run, just enough to mount the exchanger, then a 3-foot run to the wall, through a thimble into a big rectangular flue with a clean-out plate on the bottom. I pull those two short interior pipes once a year to clean them anyway, so no worry, and anything that makes it to the flue just precipitates right the hell out.

Magic Heat has a scraper plate built in, with a rod and knob you saw back and forth a couple of times whenever you start a fire up. Anything on the tubes gets knocked off and falls into the fire. Now, two different times (in 30 years) I've let that sucker get away from me, and had to take it out in the summer and hit the insides with oven cleaner and an old toilet brush.

If you had a convoluted piping route, it would be worth thinking about, if you didn't regularly sweep your pipes. But I burn tailings, some green wood, rolled-up papers, even a little soft coal, and never had an issue.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2016 12:37 AM (H5rtT)

612 "My daughter and grandbabbies are in NE Ohio, Canton/Akron area. I hear it's cold there."
-Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 16, 2016 12:37 AM (6Ll1u)

It is all of eleven degrees right now.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:39 AM (6gk0M)

613 Mike, that Soundfly mp3 player/FM transmitter arrived from Amazon today. Just opened the package. It's quite tiny. Haven't had the opportunity to try it yet.

Posted by: Mick and Keef at December 16, 2016 12:39 AM (MiBfH)

614 We are offended by this new show on Fox. The Mick.

http://www.fox.com/the-mick

Posted by: The Irish at December 16, 2016 12:39 AM (bqN/x)

615 Cold weather. Favorite memory of my angel was from the winter last year. She jad me build a yuuge and luxurious fire in the stove, then she snaffled my best pajamas, wrapped herself in my burka, pulled on three blankets, and fell asleep with my house cat curled up on her feet. I never saw such an image of peace in all my life.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:39 AM (fWCrN)

616 Oops, off non-gatherers of moss sock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2016 12:40 AM (MiBfH)

617 I prefer gas to electric, Irongrampa. It is 25% less costly.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:41 AM (6gk0M)

618 Someone must have heard of thermo-coulples and /or

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2016 12:41 AM (SkR14)

619 Someone must have heard of thermo-coulples and /or

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2016 12:41 AM (SkR14)

If you were to cook your wife to death, you would be thermo-culpable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2016 12:43 AM (MiBfH)

620 Oh, and by the way...

If Weft Cut-Loop doesn't pick on you?

You're doing it wrong.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:43 AM (6gk0M)

621 614 We are offended by this new show on Fox. The Mick.

http://www.fox.com/the-mick

Posted by: The Irish
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I aw a commercial for that today. Looks watchable. I recognize the blonde, but don't know where I've seen her. I watch so lititle network tv...

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 12:44 AM (qc1G2)

622 Mike, that Soundfly mp3 player/FM transmitter arrived from Amazon today. Just opened the package. It's quite tiny. Haven't had the opportunity to try it yet.
Posted by: Mick and Keef
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I look forward to a report.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2016 12:44 AM (ZO497)

623 Someone must have heard of thermo-coulples and /or

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2016 12:41 AM (SkR14)

Yes of course we have.


Posted by: Platinum Rhodium at December 16, 2016 12:45 AM (bqN/x)

624 623. Noob! - iron/copper

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:46 AM (fWCrN)

625 @ 617

Got no complaint about the cost thus far, it DOES apper to be a good setup, comparing the two.

Always have been a fan of baseboard hot water, the feeling of the warmth is much nicer than forced hot air, for example.

Only nicer thing is laying on the beanbag pillow in front of the fireplace.

With a snifter of Chivas.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 16, 2016 12:47 AM (X35Yt)

626 cold weather is great. one of my favorite things is walking out into freezing weather, or colder, first thing in the morning and having the cold hit my face right after shaving. bracing, invigorating.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2016 12:48 AM (cPsPa)

627 Posted by: Jim at December 16, 2016 12:23 AM (v5iqM)

Sounds horrible.

Just went out for a smoke -- it's about 5 degrees out, probably around 0% humidity. Not too worried about my towels being moist, more about them being frozen solid.

So cold my nose hairs froze in my 5 minutes outside.

It's glorious being back in 55 degree heat.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2016 12:48 AM (WGxp4)

628
Iron-Constantan
Type J, FTW!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2016 12:48 AM (ZO497)

629 595 581. Heh...dates me, but I first heard of her from listening to Art Bell and Matt Drudge on the radio. Mummer's Song, it was.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:25 AM (fWCrN)

--My buddy and roommate when I was at Florida State introduced me to her , same album (Book of Secrets, which had "The Mummers' Dance") back in the '90s.

Then after I moved to Winnipeg, I found out she hailed from the humble prairie town of Morden, Manitoba. Love her two Christmas albums. I had never heard of "The Seven Rejoices of Mary" before I heard her version. "Emmanual" and "Good King Wenceslaus" by her are fantastic, in every sense of the word.

Posted by: logprof at December 16, 2016 12:49 AM (GsAUU)

630 Noob! - iron/copper

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:46 AM (fWCrN)
I guess for those that cant take the heat.

Posted by: Platinum Rhodium at December 16, 2016 12:50 AM (bqN/x)

631 man this place needs women worse than mars.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2016 12:50 AM (cPsPa)

632 Magic Heat has a scraper plate built in, with a rod and knob you saw back and forth a couple of times whenever you start a fire up. Anything on the tubes gets knocked off and falls into the fire. Now, two different times (in 30 years) I've let that sucker get away from me, and had to take it out in the summer and hit the insides with oven cleaner and an old toilet brush.

If you had a convoluted piping route, it would be worth thinking about, if you didn't regularly sweep your pipes. But I burn tailings, some green wood, rolled-up papers, even a little soft coal, and never had an issue.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2016 12:37 AM (H5rtT)

Is it worth it to get a magic heat blower in my stove pipe? I'm all set up with triple insulated straight shot stove pipe now. My uncle has a magic heat blower in his barn. Seems awesome, but looks like it would be a minor PITA to retrofit my current set up...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2016 12:51 AM (WGxp4)

633 Currently 63 degrees here in AJ, some rain showers in forecast.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2016 12:51 AM (MiBfH)

634 Last piece of heating advice for the night. I have an electric mat that lays under a rug. Cost about $125. It pulls 300 watts on high, and takes the chill off a slab floor no matter how cold the weather. It's a slow heat, but does as much good as a 1500W "milkhouse" blower. I think, given a traditional small bedroom, you could heat the whole room with one. In our big ("great!") room, it's just a little boost, but sure a nice feel on the bestocking'd tootsies.

Matter of fact, it's on right now, and so, to bed.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2016 12:51 AM (H5rtT)

635
Two of the nicer things about cold weather are flannel sheets and a warm wife.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 16, 2016 12:52 AM (X35Yt)

636 Two of the nicer things about cold weather are flannel sheets and a warm wife.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 16, 2016 12:52 AM (X35Yt)




yep. and you are able to snuggle with both of them simultaneously without getting too hot. temperature wise anyway.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2016 12:53 AM (cPsPa)

637
Just went out for a smoke -- it's about 5 degrees out, probably around 0% humidity. Not too worried about my towels being moist, more about them being frozen solid.

So cold my nose hairs froze in my 5 minutes outside.

It's glorious being back in 55 degree heat.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2016 12:48 AM (WGxp4)




And the forecast this weekend is one where we'll probably run the A.C. during the day, only to kick the heat on 'round about 9 or 10 pm.

Prime weather for massive thunderstorms, but this time, there's no fronts moving through to roil the skies.

One thing for sure though. It's always bourbon sippin' weather here!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 16, 2016 12:53 AM (v5iqM)

638 631 man this place needs women worse than mars.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2016 12:50 AM (cPsPa)

--What happened to SMFH? Did she bolt while I was coming home from the bar?

Posted by: logprof at December 16, 2016 12:53 AM (GsAUU)

639 16.5 deg., and falling. Busy night for the boiler.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2016 12:53 AM (ZO497)

640 631. Speak for yourself. Still trying to get my second-best hat back from Umbrella-Girl.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:53 AM (fWCrN)

641 Speak for yourself. Still trying to get my second-best hat back from Umbrella-Girl.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 12:53 AM (fWCrN)




Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2016 12:54 AM (cPsPa)

642 And the forecast this weekend is one where we'll probably run the A.C. during the day, only to kick the heat on 'round about 9 or 10 pm.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 16, 2016 12:53 AM (v5iqM)

Heh! Can't even imagine thinking about AC right now.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2016 12:54 AM (WGxp4)

643 Busy night for the boiler.
Posted by: Mike Hammer



gas, electric, or bunny?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2016 12:55 AM (cPsPa)

644 16.5 deg., and falling. Busy night for the boiler.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2016 12:53 AM (ZO497)

Man, I hope this continent-wide cold snap ends before I have to make the road trip home!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2016 12:55 AM (MiBfH)

645 Last piece of heating advice for the night. I have an electric mat that lays under a rug. Cost about $125. It pulls 300 watts on high, and takes the chill off a slab floor no matter how cold the weather. It's a slow heat, but does as much good as a 1500W "milkhouse" blower. I think, given a traditional small bedroom, you could heat the whole room with one. In our big ("great!") room, it's just a little boost, but sure a nice feel on the bestocking'd tootsies.

Matter of fact, it's on right now, and so, to bed.


Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 16, 2016 12:51 AM (H5rtT)




Stringer.... my email is in my nic. If you don't mind, would you be so kind as to send a link as to the brand, model and source on that rug-warming mat? I think that's just what the Dr. ordered for here!

Highly appreciated!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 16, 2016 12:55 AM (v5iqM)

646 alright all, time for bed. g'night!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2016 12:57 AM (WGxp4)

647 gas, electric, or bunny?
Posted by: yankeefifth
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*snigger*

You left out oil, or as they pronounce it up here in the mountains "all".

Anyhow, natural gas.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2016 12:57 AM (ZO497)

648 Time for the old folk--the warm wife beckons.


Remember, y'all, we are Americans, so that head is head HIGH--with good reason lately.

Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 16, 2016 12:58 AM (X35Yt)

649 So my dog keeps me warm at night, does that happen for you?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 16, 2016 12:58 AM (6Ll1u)

650 649 So my dog keeps me warm at night, does that happen for you?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 16, 2016 12:58 AM (6Ll1u)

When range-fad, battered in Guinness and savory smoked, followed by single-malt.

Posted by: Baraka at December 16, 2016 01:01 AM (GsAUU)

651 >> So my dog keeps me warm at night, does that
>> happen for you?

My dog mostly keeps my wife's feet warm, but he's thermostatic - when he gets too warm he hops off and sleeps on the floor for a while, then an hour later he'll come back.

Posted by: JEM at December 16, 2016 01:01 AM (TppKb)

652 'No, my dear,' I explained, 'the caffeine in the coffee balances out the brandy. Just something to fight the chill....'

Heh.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 16, 2016 01:03 AM (CnpFU)

653 One thing they have in Japan that I'm a little envious of is called a kotatsu (I think it basically means "baby dragon", but I'm not positive, as I haven't seen the kanji for it).

It's basically one of those low tables they favor there, where you sit on the floor to use it. It has a heater underneath it, and a quilted skirt hanging around it. You sit at it, put your legs under the skirt and enjoy the heat underneath it. Sounds pretty awesome!

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 16, 2016 01:04 AM (0OG8D)

654 My cat likes to snuggle for warmth in bed, and come to think of it, she's probably getting impatient for me to show up there. So good night.

Posted by: rickl at December 16, 2016 01:04 AM (sdi6R)

655 Time for the old folk--the warm wife beckons.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 16, 2016 12:58 AM (X35Yt)



I miss my warm hubby.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 16, 2016 01:04 AM (tHwdc)

656 So my dog keeps me warm at night, does that happen for you?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
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Well, it's true that the dog's body temp is higher than mine, but the little creature certainly likes to cozy up. The cat likes to creep under the covers and sleep against my chest. Hell... it gets so that I can't move on account of the livestock.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2016 01:04 AM (ZO497)

657 Did you herd cats today?
Well, i danced a dress rehearsal for a local civic ballet. I think that almost counts. I wasn't in charge by any means but getting a lot of my fellow big rats (mostly middle schoolers i guess) to get it together and stay together and terrify Clara! Yeah, i think i celebrated right!
And no, i didn't dance the sugar plum fairy role... i just chose that nic in protest of the book thread no tutus rule of old and it stuck.
Off to read the content!... or as much as i can take! More rat herding tomorrow!

Posted by: sugar plum fairy #176-671 at December 16, 2016 01:04 AM (ubeNv)

658 >> 16.5 deg., and falling. Busy night for the boiler.

Out here on the Brown Coast it's not that cold right now, but it's raining a bunch, had to go out earlier and make sure all the gutters and drains were guttering and draining.

Posted by: JEM at December 16, 2016 01:05 AM (TppKb)

659 I can't even herd one cat. And she doesn't keep me warm.

Pretty much useless.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 16, 2016 01:06 AM (tHwdc)

660 #654: I have two cats, myself, and they like to sleep with me. It is nice, all right! Good night, Rick.

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 16, 2016 01:06 AM (0OG8D)

661 Well, it's true that the dog's body temp is higher than mine, but the little creature certainly likes to cozy up. The cat likes to creep under the covers and sleep against my chest. Hell... it gets so that I can't move on account of the livestock.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2016 01:04 AM (ZO497)

You may find it necessary to get one or two cold-blooded pets, say turtles, to avoid possible overheating.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2016 01:06 AM (MiBfH)

662 Ugh, it's after 1, goodnight all.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 16, 2016 01:07 AM (tHwdc)

663 I miss my warm hubby.
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 16, 2016 01:04 AM (tHwdc)

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So do I...

Posted by: SMFH at December 16, 2016 01:07 AM (CRotO)

664 >> Hell... it gets so that I can't move on account of the
>> livestock.

If my daughter goes to school without closing her door I will later text her video of the dogs snoring like logs, curled up on her pillow.

Posted by: JEM at December 16, 2016 01:07 AM (TppKb)

665 Niters Miley.

Posted by: SMFH at December 16, 2016 01:07 AM (CRotO)

666 Guess I'll wait for the number.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 16, 2016 01:07 AM (tHwdc)

667 G'Night, Miley

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:07 AM (6gk0M)

668 Nite y'all

Posted by: SMFH at December 16, 2016 01:07 AM (CRotO)

669 So, let's see . . . they can imprison you and take oodles of money from you for killing a bird, but they can't touch you for desecrating the flag?

Hmmmm . . .

Posted by: One-eyed Cat Peepin' in the Seafood Store at December 16, 2016 01:07 AM (aeVIR)

670 608 Y5: email address is home made gravy 71, (all one word), at the yooha dot com.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 12:36 AM (6gk0M)



Hopefully, you've taken appropriate security measures after recent reports of security breaches....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2016 01:08 AM (EzgxV)

671 Oooh, got it! Goodnight, Miss Joy.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 16, 2016 01:08 AM (tHwdc)

672 More an Advent song than a Christmas carol . . .

Anton Bruckner, "Virga Jesse":

https://youtu.be/5LPvoppqOLk

Posted by: logprof at December 16, 2016 01:09 AM (GsAUU)

673 Cooth, were these breaches actually recent, or the revelations of them? That's what's so confusing about Yahoo and their foot-dragging.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 16, 2016 01:09 AM (tHwdc)

674 >> So, let's see . . . they can imprison you and take
>> oodles of money from you for killing a bird

Unless you put up a wind turbine, in which case you can kill a whole lot of them.

Posted by: JEM at December 16, 2016 01:10 AM (TppKb)

675 Good night, Miley! Good night, SMFH!

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 16, 2016 01:10 AM (0OG8D)

676 Well, I am out for the night, too. Busy day planned for the morrow. Night, all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2016 01:11 AM (MiBfH)

677 One of the houses I've owned was built during the energy crisis Carter made. The builder made a passive solar design. He installed radiant heat panels in the ceilings, electric baseboards in the bedrooms and second floor concrete for heat mass to catch the sun. The wood fireplace was massive as far as a heat sink made of stone. I replaced the wood burner fireplace with a gas insert. And could heat the entire house without using any electric heat. $80 a month was the most I paid for heat in Minnesota for that house. I kinda wish I was still there.

Posted by: Willy J. at December 16, 2016 01:11 AM (bqN/x)

678 'Night Slap and Warbler!

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 16, 2016 01:11 AM (tHwdc)

679 666
Guess I'll wait for the number.
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 16, 2016 01:07 AM (tHwdc)
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thread winner

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2016 01:11 AM (nKLZ2)

680 Good night, all y'all turning in.

I am scrunching in all the PTO at work possible so I am going in an hour late . . . so I'm up late for a week night.

Posted by: logprof at December 16, 2016 01:12 AM (GsAUU)

681 >> Unless you put up a wind turbine, in which case you
>> can kill a whole lot of them.

So under the Obama plan, wind-turbine operators are allowed to kill lots of birds. But how do you determine which operators are allowed to kill how many? Will there be quotas assigned based on bald eagle density in the area? Bald Eagle Carcass Credits exchanged on a market like 'carbon credits'?

Hopefully Trump follows through on his disgust for wind turbines and just uses them as drone practice targets.

Posted by: JEM at December 16, 2016 01:12 AM (TppKb)

682
673 Cooth, were these breaches actually recent, or the revelations of them? That's what's so confusing about Yahoo and their foot-dragging.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 16, 2016 01:09 AM (tHwdc)



Ancient breaches (2013), current reports.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2016 01:12 AM (EzgxV)

683 I can't stop laughing about this.

That idiot Eichenwald was ranting on Twitter after his TV meltdown tonight. Somebody with the handle @jew_goldstein sent him a strobing gif. Actual reply from Eichenwald:
"This is his wife. You have caused a seizure. I have your information and have called the police to report the assault."

That's a 911 call you won't forget. "Please help! My husband has been gif assaulted by Jew Goldstein!"

Posted by: gewa76 at December 16, 2016 01:12 AM (B6OKy)

684 I made a last-minute, (literally) beer-run. This kid begged me to buy him beer.

I told him to stay-put while I grabbed a Busch 30-pack.

I gave him a "sixer" at no cost because I would have wanted someone to do that for me when I was his age.

Dude was happier than a clam.

-Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:13 AM (6gk0M)

685 $80 a month was the most I paid for heat in Minnesota for that house. I kinda wish I was still there.
---
except, of course, for being in Minnesota...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2016 01:13 AM (nKLZ2)

686 Well the "kids" are waiting for bed. G'nite everybody!

Posted by: Dude with six turtles at December 16, 2016 01:13 AM (VdICR)

687 G'Night, Logprof.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:14 AM (6gk0M)

688 Oh, and by the way...

If Weft Cut-Loop doesn't pick on you?

You're doing it wrong.
Posted by: Slapweasel


I've never attended a pleasure cruise.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2016 01:14 AM (SkR14)

689 G'Night, AOP.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:15 AM (6gk0M)

690 I'm off to bed, myself. Good night, everyone!

Posted by: The Deplorable Prothonotary Warbler at December 16, 2016 01:15 AM (0OG8D)

691 "I've never attended a pleasure cruise."
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2016 01:14 AM (SkR14)

Of course you haven't.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:16 AM (6gk0M)

692 G'Night, Prothonotary Warler.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:17 AM (6gk0M)

693 Cringed at the enormous binder that said "Tucker Carlson Lies" in big letters. Tucker's enemies will be buying anvils out of the ACME catalog.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 16, 2016 01:17 AM (VdICR)

694 ...warbler even.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:17 AM (6gk0M)

695 except, of course, for being in Minnesota...

Well yes there is the physical and psychological price one pays living in Minnesota.

Posted by: Willy J. at December 16, 2016 01:17 AM (bqN/x)

696 >> That's a 911 call you won't forget. "Please help! My
>> husband has been gif assaulted by Jew Goldstein!"

Actually, I think Eichenwald blamed some incident of his past behavior on epliepsy. So a GIF Assault isn't beyond the realm of possibility.

Speaking of warm dogs, and not beyond the realm of possibility...here Fido, here Fido:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/animals/vile-dog-videos-127439

Posted by: JEM at December 16, 2016 01:18 AM (TppKb)

697 Good night, from me now, y'all!

Posted by: logprof at December 16, 2016 01:19 AM (GsAUU)

698 >> Tucker's enemies will be buying anvils out of the
>> ACME catalog.

Just before Tucker gets them to run off the end of the cliff?

Posted by: JEM at December 16, 2016 01:19 AM (TppKb)

699 *doffs cap @ logprof*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:20 AM (6gk0M)

700 Back again before engaging the transporter.

Palpatine #527: ...my angel... grabbed me one day and popped my upper back. ... Sounded like a bomb going off.

Heh. I expected our doc (a if not the top NUCCA guy) to do something painful, and I felt this gentle press on my neck, a little tiny "click" and he said he was done. I teased that he had one of those old Halloween clickers concealed in his hand.

Funny thing. After a car wreck in '78, I went in for a full check-up and the doc measured my legs and said, "you're a half-inch shorter on the right side than on the left. Has nothing to do with the wreck - you've been that way all your life." Recommended putting a #something insert in my shoe.

Some twenty years later, when I went to the NUCCA doc, he said, exactly the same, "You're a half-inch shorter etc." and then he said, "We can fix that." And by the time I walked out of his office, he had. A myriad of problems I never thought much about - and would never have thought were interconnected - went away as well.

I did feel like I was listing to one side that afternoon until I got used to having both legs the same length for the first time in decades.

I took a cousin to him - she was severely out of whack. I was across the room when he adjusted her, and it really sounded like a gunshot.

Posted by: mindful webworker - striding easy at December 16, 2016 01:20 AM (5a8XA)

701 I made a last-minute, (literally) beer-run. This kid begged me to buy him beer.



I told him to stay-put while I grabbed a Busch 30-pack.

---
major crime here in #Failifornia... the state even deploys decoys to sucker you in.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2016 01:22 AM (nKLZ2)

702 "major crime here in #Failifornia... the state even deploys decoys to sucker you in."
-Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2016 01:22 AM (nKLZ2)

In Ohio it is called "charity".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:25 AM (6gk0M)

703 I suspect it's time I hit it, myself.....G'night, all!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2016 01:26 AM (EzgxV)

704 major crime here in #Failifornia... the state even deploys decoys to sucker you in.

Fuck those busybodies.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 16, 2016 01:26 AM (VdICR)

705 Time to get to the underside of the blankets.

Cats'll be claiming spaces by time I can reach up and switch off the light, too. heh.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 16, 2016 01:26 AM (v5iqM)

706 G'Night, Cthulhu.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:26 AM (6gk0M)

707 G'Night, Jim.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:27 AM (6gk0M)

708 Damn it's cold out there. Had to roll the trash cans out.
22° is when I hate living this far off the road.

So, I was looking for dessert - with all the talk earlier, i decided on a baked potato with butter, sour cream & alms the last scallions on the front porch. And yes, I used a gutter spike. (Saved me maybe 10 minutes?)
Delicious.

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 01:29 AM (qc1G2)

709 The "kid" looked 21, but he was desperate. He must have said "please" twenty times.

...meh. I have enough cash and beer.

Dude got a six-pack charity via Slapweasel Incorporated.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:30 AM (6gk0M)

710 609 My daughter and grandbabbies are in NE Ohio, Canton/Akron area. I hear it's cold there.

It was 10 deg when we came back to Akron from N Canton a couple of hours ago.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 16, 2016 01:35 AM (di1hb)

711 I wouldn't have bought it for him if he was shaking like an alcoholic.

The kid just seemed ...

...pathetic before the 1:00 am deadline.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:35 AM (6gk0M)

712 There is no Guardian Angel of beer, but I was happy to fill-in for him.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:40 AM (6gk0M)

713 Good evening/ morning/ whatever....

'Tis a blistering 20 degrees, where's my tanktop and cutoffs?!

Shovel'd snow a good couple-a hours this yesterday morning-- was about 8 inches deep. (what's that in "weather service inches"? an inch-and-a-half?)

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 16, 2016 01:40 AM (044Fx)

714 The drinking age when I turned was 19. Which only took the fun out of drinking because drinking illegally was way more exciting and just as available.

Posted by: Willy J. at December 16, 2016 01:40 AM (bqN/x)

715 G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:41 AM (6gk0M)

716 There's like 5 patron saints, though.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 16, 2016 01:43 AM (di1hb)

717 'Legal age' for booze was 19 here, too... before fedguv extortion (bye-bye highway $$$) to force 21.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 16, 2016 01:44 AM (044Fx)

718 Goodnight all, thanks for the chat tonight.

Friday's a-comin!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 16, 2016 01:44 AM (u8kLQ)

719 ^*HAH!*^

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:44 AM (6gk0M)

720 OUT...

*National Anthem*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:45 AM (6gk0M)

721 18 Jmel,

Your daughter. Intervention team. White windowless van. Convent Cloistered Convent with papal enclosure.

Some assembly required. ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 15, 2016 10:08 PM (u8kLQ)

Made it even better.

Posted by: Fox2 LAte an Officer of the United States Air Force (Reserve) at December 16, 2016 01:46 AM (brIR5)

722 *stands at attention, hand over heart*

'Night, Slapweasel.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 16, 2016 01:46 AM (044Fx)

723 Just checked the forecast. It's been pretty chilly lately, so glad to see it's 36° ("feels like 28°") which is as cold as it will be tonight.

Tomorrow, a sweltering 55°. Ah, those lovely winds out of the South!

Then, the wind turns. Saturday, 34° high, 5° low with 74% chance of snow. Just in time for the weekend trip to daughter's ballet.

Then sub-freezing all the way to Tuesday, when it's back to temperatures in the 40s and sunny.

OooooooOH-klahoma! North wind? Montana. South wind? Louisiana. West wind? Tornadoes and dust.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Okie by birth and choice at December 16, 2016 01:48 AM (5a8XA)

724 There's like 5 patron saints, though.///

Isn't Patron a type of tequila?

Posted by: Willy J. at December 16, 2016 01:49 AM (bqN/x)

725 Boy, I sure hope this teleporter works. I bought it used from some weirdos calling themselves the Thermians...

* throws switch *

BBBAZZZZZZZPPPPPTHHHSHS KERBLOOOOSH!!

Posted by: mindful webworker - cosmic traveler at December 16, 2016 01:51 AM (5a8XA)

726 ...Boy, I sure hope this teleporter works....

Hope you're not craving lots of sugary stuff now!

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 16, 2016 01:55 AM (044Fx)

727 Must be bedtime, the dog went upstairs...

Nitey-nite.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 16, 2016 01:57 AM (044Fx)

728 G'Night, JQ Flyover.

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 16, 2016 01:58 AM (6gk0M)

729 712 There is no Guardian Angel of beer, but I was happy to fill-in for him.
Posted by: Slapweasel
-------------------

Sain't Pauli Girl!

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 02:04 AM (qc1G2)

730 557 Snow removal advice from a Syracuse native (Buffalo gets more attention but 7 years out of 10, Syracuse gets more snow).

Use the right shovel for the job, especially if you're in a mid-Atlantic or central area that gets different kinds of snow. I have a plastic-blade ergonomic-handle (bent) shovel for lifting. Use that for the powdery snow and when you have more than three inches.

My plow-blade shovel is the cat's whiskers when it's the wet and sloppy snow. It's a solid steel blade that curves up. I cock it on an angle and just slide on down the walk and the snow comes off it like the surf breaking at Waikiki.

Grain scoops are the wrong tool: you try and take a big bite with one and the snow falls off the back. Coal scuttles are the wrong tool too: they're too small so you're spending your energy lifting the shovel instead of the snow.
Posted by: Otto Zilch at December 16, 2016 12:09 AM (5uQlQ)

One of the earliest works in human factors/ergonomics was to define the right size shovel for various products. The ideal shovel tare weight plus load is somewhere in the 18-21 pound range, IIRC. Use a grain scoop for grain, and a coal shovel for coal, and you can shovel all day.

Posted by: Fox2 LAte an Officer of the United States Air Force (Reserve) at December 16, 2016 02:09 AM (brIR5)

731 From MisHum's original post:

"Cooking is not trivial. Observe food stamp recipients’ tendency to buy junk food because they simply do not know their way around a kitchen."

Just last month I actually burst out loud laughing at a quote in this article (http://tinyurl.com/z7amg2s) about a "food justice" event in Berkeley -- a local activist said this about the black students attending the local high-school-for-dropouts:

"The only food they could afford to buy was Hot Cheetos...at the liquor store."

He said that with a straight face.

If you know local geography and the location of that school -- it is ONE BLOCK from a gigantic natural/healthy/produce supermarket that sells an infinite variety of super-healthy food options for less than the price of a bag of Hot Cheetos.

What no one wants to admit is that most people in America CHOOSE to buy what they want to buy, and they are not forced into it by poverty. Most (or maybe even all) of the kids at that school are on food stamps, and anyone with half a brain knows that the bogus "food stamp challenges" are kabuki theater to create sympathy for increases welfare payouts.

Bad shopping/diet decisions are intimately intertwined with other bad decision-making processes people do -- short term pleasure/satisfaction is prioritized over long-term benefits that would entail "delayed gratification." Cooking involves time and effort -- sort of the perfect test case for "delayed gratification." The kind of people who take drugs to get a quick feeling of false achievement, who rob to get money instead of working for it, and so on, are the exact same kind of people who buy bags of Hot Cheetos rather than produce and raw ingredients for a home-cooked meal, or even healthier quick-food options.

It's a matrix of interconnected poor life decisions which in most cases lead to comparative poverty but are not caused by poverty.

/rant off.

Posted by: zombie at December 16, 2016 02:21 AM (jBuUi)

732 I was not going to see Rogue One, and then my brother told me he had two IMAX tickets for tonight.

I really wanted to dislike this movie and bitch about being stuck in the front row.

And I can't.

No spoilers because it's that good. If you're not specifically boycotting Disney, go see it. And if you are, sorry, though my brother feels the same way about Trump voters as the writers do, so the transaction was a wash.

Hey, that's the truth from my point of view.

Posted by: Methos at December 16, 2016 02:21 AM (3Liv/)

733 Well, I'm gone. I discovered Antenna TV in order to watch Newhart (Bob's 2nd show), and after that they run Johnny Carson reruns. Anyway, the one tonight was from '88 in December. Reagan was going out and Bush the elder was going in, and Johnny made some cracks about that.

I realized something. It was like it was just yesterday. I remember the various events that Johnny was joking about. In my mind, it's still about that time, and the damn near 30 years seems like a blur. To some damn Millennial, it would be like ancient history and they would appreciate it or get the jokes.

And watching Carson in action again tonight was a stark contrast to the piss poor hosts on late night TV today. There's no comparison.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 16, 2016 02:27 AM (DW+jj)

734 Ye Olde Apple Fest!

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 02:32 AM (qc1G2)

735 Ya, I'm wearing khakis, and I'm hideous

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 16, 2016 02:33 AM (6Ll1u)

736 It's raining here now, supposed to get down to the 40's tonight. Brr.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 16, 2016 02:43 AM (6Ll1u)

737 i say again: what is this "snow" all y'all keep yammering about?


Posted by: redc1c4, in The Valley, like totally at December 16, 2016 02:46 AM (nKLZ2)

738 *unscramble* Any Moron with anything connected to Yahoo, including those in The Group, should review https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/12/ yahoo-one-billion-more -accounts-hacked/#more-37259 and the links branching off of it. Note also that certain cable companies used Yahoo as their backend, so it's not just if you have "yahoo.com" in your addy. Please pass this on. *return to non-Euclidean geometries*

Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2016 02:47 AM (EzgxV)

739 yeah, sprinkling a tad here as well, far from the "flash floods" we were told to expect.

of course, last year, a "Mega El Nino" we got maybe 7 inches of rain, so there's no way this year's La Nina is going to do anything but tease.

regardless, forecasters gotta hype.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 16, 2016 02:49 AM (nKLZ2)

740 Wow that earlier post.

Looks like it took Trump to blow the bow tie off of Tucker.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 16, 2016 02:55 AM (4ErVI)

741 Nice.
Looks like Leslie Nielsen is the murderer on tonight's Columbo.

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 02:58 AM (qc1G2)

742 Also I gotta admire a post that starts off with a quote from Roy Cohn.

It's hard to get the real skinny on him because his enemies have feasted on his corpse for years after he died. There's a great movie made for HBO starring James Woods as the man that is chock full of the smearing. It even borrows from the gay fantasy Angels in America at points I think which I didn't know at the time.

Hard to say what is true and what isn't. I think more of it is true than not. Not a likeable guy that Roy Cohn and a huge hypocrite (as are we all if not in that particular way we are in our own way). Still wasn't wrong about the Commies or never backing down though.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 16, 2016 03:01 AM (4ErVI)

743 Ha! Columbo staring unabashedly at the belly dancer.

I think he had to stare twice as long.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 16, 2016 03:19 AM (8iiMU)

744 "What do you thnk, lieutenant? "
"I think she's an amazing dancer."
"I mean about the money!"

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 03:25 AM (qc1G2)

745 th!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 16, 2016 03:38 AM (d76uN)

746 (WFB) -- A new video of U.S. celebrities urging electors to vote against President-elect Donald Trump was made by an organization whose website was registered in a foreign country, despite its accusations that foreign influence was to blame for Trump's victory in the presidential election.

The website was created on Nov. 26, and has just this one video post. The site is registered through a Canadian domain.

Whoopsies!

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 16, 2016 04:04 AM (oZEJt)

747 Good Morning Everyone. Lots of twatterati hoping for sotero to null and void the election. I won't put it past him to make the attempt.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 16, 2016 04:08 AM (d76uN)

748 Posted by: GnuBreed at December 16, 2016 04:04 AM (oZEJt)

Irony is lost on that crowd.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 16, 2016 04:09 AM (d76uN)

749 Re: Teaching boys to cook.

My Mom had me in the kitchen young, starting with cleaning pots and pans. As I got a little older, she'd have me prepare garlic and onions, moving on up to bigger items as I got older. She told me once, 'I'm not having any son of mine grow up to be as ignorant in the kitchen as their father'; my Dad could burn water.

When I was a Boy Scout, I practiced cooking for my merit badge. One Saturday morning, I got up early and cooked bacon, sausage, eggs, gravy, canned biscuits and coffee. At about 7 a.m., breakfast was ready. I went in and woke up my Mom to let her know. Much later, was told my Dad didn't want to get out of bed to eat my meal. Mom told him, 'You will get up, you will go eat the food and you will tell him (me) you like it, then you can go back to bed. I'm not going to have you ruin any love of being in the kitchen he has'.

One thing mentioned in passing in the article about cooking was shopping by the poor, and the poor choices they make (pun intended). Mom used to take me grocery shopping at the commissary on the Navy Base on Saturday mornings. Mostly, my job was to watch the cart full of paid groceries while she went to get the car. But she also taught me shopping. She might say to me, we need 8 tenderloin steaks. So she'd continue down the aisles while I picked out the meat. When I came with my selections, she'd go back to the meat counter with me to go over what I picked versus what was left, explaining what picks I made were good and which ones had better choices left in the meat section. She'd teach me things like marbling, whether the fat was trimmed, etc. That was an important life lesson.

As a Boy Scout, my Scoutmaster always use to joke that on camping outings, if he wanted anything to eat, he always came to my patrol as we had the best food. If you can cook spaghetti and meatballs over a campfire, you can cook spaghetti and meatballs in a kitchen.

When I was married, my ex loved that I could cook (because she couldn't). But one thing always bothered me. If I made something for her and she liked it, I could never change the recipe. But I'm an adventurous cook and to this day, I like trying new things and new combos, even with 'established' recipes. I blame my Mom for that as she never followed recipes (except for baking), adding a little of this and a little of that. I've posted some recipes on the food threads. Writing down my recipes is hard because I'm a freewheeling 'eyeball' cook, too, tasting as I go. It takes effort to figure out how much my 'dash', 'splash' or 'pinch' measures out to be.

Posted by: RickZ at December 16, 2016 04:11 AM (dQLTf)

750 741: Patrick McGoohan. Leslie is the murderee. :-)

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 16, 2016 04:15 AM (DW+jj)

751 TFG has vowed to retaliate against Russia for their hackings, saying it will be "at a time of our choosing".

Well you better choose quick, prick; you've got a month. And a mouth. But mostly a mouth. You've got that mouth, and your pen, and a lot of empty words that scare no one, especially Putin.

That sorry sumbitch is taking another Hawaiian vacation on our dime before he goes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 16, 2016 04:18 AM (oZEJt)

752 Nice.
Looks like Leslie Nielsen is the murderer on tonight's Columbo.


Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 02:58 AM


You'll find out soon enough!

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2016 04:18 AM (lmIoG)

753 749 Re: Teaching boys to cook.

My Mom had me in the kitchen young, starting with cleaning pots and pans. As I got a little older, she'd have me prepare garlic and onions, moving on up to bigger items as I got older. She told me once, 'I'm not having any son of mine grow up to be as ignorant in the kitchen as their father'; my Dad could burn water.

When I was a Boy Scout, I practiced cooking for my merit badge. One Saturday morning, I got up early and cooked bacon, sausage, eggs, gravy, canned biscuits and coffee. At about 7 a.m., breakfast was ready. I went in and woke up my Mom to let her know. Much later, was told my Dad didn't want to get out of bed to eat my meal. Mom told him, 'You will get up, you will go eat the food and you will tell him (me) you like it, then you can go back to bed. I'm not going to have you ruin any love of being in the kitchen he has'.

One thing mentioned in passing in the article about cooking was shopping by the poor, and the poor choices they make (pun intended). Mom used to take me grocery shopping at the commissary on the Navy Base on Saturday mornings. Mostly, my job was to watch the cart full of paid groceries while she went to get the car. But she also taught me shopping. She might say to me, we need 8 tenderloin steaks. So she'd continue down the aisles while I picked out the meat. When I came with my selections, she'd go back to the meat counter with me to go over what I picked versus what was left, explaining what picks I made were good and which ones had better choices left in the meat section. She'd teach me things like marbling, whether the fat was trimmed, etc. That was an important life lesson.

As a Boy Scout, my Scoutmaster always use to joke that on camping outings, if he wanted anything to eat, he always came to my patrol as we had the best food. If you can cook spaghetti and meatballs over a campfire, you can cook spaghetti and meatballs in a kitchen.

When I was married, my ex loved that I could cook (because she couldn't). But one thing always bothered me. If I made something for her and she liked it, I could never change the recipe. But I'm an adventurous cook and to this day, I like trying new things and new combos, even with 'established' recipes. I blame my Mom for that as she never followed recipes (except for baking), adding a little of this and a little of that. I've posted some recipes on the food threads. Writing down my recipes is hard because I'm a freewheeling 'eyeball' cook, too, tasting as I go. It takes effort to figure out how much my 'dash', 'splash' or 'pinch' measures out to be.

Posted by: RickZ at December 16, 2016 04:11 AM (dQLTf)




Dammit! I really need to get to sleep.



One of the things about slavishly following a recipe is that the ingredients vary over time. You might have a container of oregano that is 1/5 as pungent as another right next to it. When you're seasoning a dish, you have to use your senses to find the blend point -- dry measures will not do.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2016 04:18 AM (EzgxV)

754 Spoilsports!
The both of you! - he was dead an hour ago, though.

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 04:23 AM (qc1G2)

755 Spoilsports!
The both of you! - he was dead an hour ago, though.


Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 04:23 AM


Steinmetz done it.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2016 04:24 AM (lmIoG)

756 I think I've read through McGoohan & Falk had formed a good friendship. He was a guest a few times.
Robert Culp, too.

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 04:25 AM (qc1G2)

757 Some of the best ever episodes feature the regular guests as the killer. McGoohan, Cassidy, Culp, Shatner. The Robert Vaughn ones are good too. He does slimy pretty good.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2016 04:31 AM (lmIoG)

758 It is very important to show young boys how to make food. And not just the simple things.
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2016 04:31 AM (5sOEp)

759 McGoohan holds the record for most Columbo guest murderers, four, and counting the second run in the late 80s or early 90s whenever it started. He also directed a number of the episodes.

Anyway, he guested twice in the 70s, this episode and "By Dawn's Early Light", and twice in the second run. And MeTV is going to start running those later 90s episodes starting in January. When I don't think they've said.

Now, Robert Culp had three guest murderer appearances in the 70s. And their was one three timer I can't recall at the moment.

And yep McGoohan and Peter Falk were good friends. The network suits actually considered replacing Falk with McGoohan at one point during the 70s run. McGoohan wouldn't hear of it, saying the only Columbo is Peter Falk.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 16, 2016 04:33 AM (DW+jj)

760 Yes! Jack Cassidy was the other three timer.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 16, 2016 04:33 AM (DW+jj)

761 Yes! Jack Cassidy was the other three timer.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 16, 2016 04:33 AM

His killer/s were fucking awesome. Iconic.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2016 04:36 AM (lmIoG)

762 I'm more of a "Scarecrow of Romney Marsh" or "The Prisoner" McGoohan fan. I wasn't into the earlier Secret Agent/Danger Man thing or later Columbo episodes.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2016 04:38 AM (EzgxV)

763 I didn't start learning to cook until I was 40. And like RickZ, I rarely measure anything. My sense of proportions is pretty good though so the results are fairly uniform on dishes I make regularly.

It's never too late, guys (and a few ettes).

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 16, 2016 04:38 AM (oZEJt)

764 "By Dawn's Early Light" was one of the best episodes of anything on tv. Certainly the best detective/cop show episode. McGoohan-Falk worked wonders on that.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2016 04:41 AM (lmIoG)

765 By Dawns Early Light was on earlier this week (maybe last friday?).
Great episode. Filmed at the Citadel!

Dick Van Dyke was a pretty good bad guy. Almost as good as Donald Pleasance.

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 04:42 AM (qc1G2)

766 Dick Van Dyke was a pretty good bad guy. Almost as good as Donald Pleasance.


Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 04:42 AM


Van Dyke was the photographer one, yeah? Yeah, Pleasence was great in the wine one. Very odd fellow. Typical. Cassavetes did a good turn also.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2016 04:45 AM (lmIoG)

767 Morning all. Barky's still calling for Assad to step down. I guess that it hasn't occured to him that he is going to long gone before Assad is.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2016 04:47 AM (XQvbv)

768 Publius,
You have the inside scoop on their programming? Input?
#FreeRockford!

They recently started airing the very early Bonanza - damn those Cartwrights softened a lot over the years. They were ruthless in the beginning.

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 04:47 AM (qc1G2)

769 Poor Jack Cassidy went batshit -- they say that would likely call it bipolar today. He was married to Shirley Jones, and she divorced him there at the end because of his erratic behavior.

The neighbors at his house (I assume out in some ritzy place in CA) spotted him mowing his lawn with a push mower. Buck Naked.

And Shirley came home one afternoon and found him sitting in a chair, buck naked with a drink. He declared himself to be Jesus Christ.

He was killed by falling asleep with a lit cigarette on a suede couch. They had to identify his corpse from dental records.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 16, 2016 04:47 AM (DW+jj)

770 Yep - photographer.

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 04:48 AM (qc1G2)

771 Poor Jack Cassidy went batshit -- they say that would likely call it bipolar today. He was married to Shirley Jones, and she divorced him there at the end because of his erratic behavior.

The neighbors at his house (I assume out in some ritzy place in CA) spotted him mowing his lawn with a push mower. Buck Naked.

And Shirley came home one afternoon and found him sitting in a chair, buck naked with a drink. He declared himself to be Jesus Christ.

He was killed by falling asleep with a lit cigarette on a suede couch. They had to identify his corpse from dental records.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 16, 2016 04:47 AM


Damn. Did not know that. He certainly left a legacy on Columbo. It wouldn't be the same without him. It almost sounds like one of his characters.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2016 04:50 AM (lmIoG)

772 768: They announced it one of their little coming attractions blurbs a week or two ago.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 16, 2016 04:51 AM (DW+jj)

773 Ah, Cassidy. I remember when he was married to Jones, but I didn't know he went all whackadoodle.
He was the magician, and probably another, right?

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 04:51 AM (qc1G2)

774 Zoinking....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2016 04:52 AM (EzgxV)

775 I saw that they're starting MacGyver soon. Maybe already started?
I wish they'd replace MASH with Rockford or maybe Vega$.

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 04:55 AM (qc1G2)

776 Ah, Cassidy. I remember when he was married to Jones, but I didn't know he went all whackadoodle.
He was the magician, and probably another, right?


Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 04:51 AM

Yeah, the magician one, the publisher who hires a bomb maker(?) and one of the greatest ever, the writer that kills his partner, very creepy dude that bumps off the woman at his local store also.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2016 04:57 AM (lmIoG)

777 OK. Be well, yall. Columbo nailed him. Time to rack out.

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 04:57 AM (qc1G2)

778 Let's see if I can remember all three of Cassidy's roles. One was an author who killed his partner, played by Martin Milner of Adam-12 fame.

Second one was a publisher who killed one of his authors who was going to go to a rival publisher when his contract expired. THe author was played by Mickey Spillane.

Third was the magician who was really an ex-Nazi in hiding. THe owner of a nightclub he's working at is blackmailing him and Cassidy thus kills him.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 16, 2016 04:57 AM (DW+jj)

779 That's them.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2016 04:58 AM (lmIoG)

780 National cat herding day.That is exactly how I spent most of yesterday, but I'll save it for the pet thread.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2016 04:58 AM (XQvbv)

781 If you remember Cassidy had some sons who were bobbysoxer heartthrobs. David and Sean. David was a son with his first wife, and he appeared with Shirley in the Partridge Family. Shirley was Sean's mother.

There was a third son I think. Anyway, there's also granddaughter who is also an actress. I saw something that mentioned her roles, but it was all modern stuff I don't know about.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 16, 2016 05:02 AM (DW+jj)

782 So Brian Stelter did a puff piece with Daily Beast, attacking Trump's and defending Obama's treatment of the press.

It basically boils down to that, while Obama has actually attempted to persecute journalists for doing their job, he's never said mean things about them.

Check Newsbusters if you don't believe me.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at December 16, 2016 05:03 AM (FqgrG)

783 David Cassidy probably pulled more trim than Charlie sheen...

Posted by: Chi at December 16, 2016 05:04 AM (qc1G2)

784 "I Think I love You."

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2016 05:05 AM (lmIoG)

785 I have an interesting sidelight about Jack Cassidy. Interesting to me, at least. I may get a few details slightly wrong, because I am about six ounces into a bottle of Crown Royal.

My wife, long ago, was a contestant on the original Gong Show with Dave Barbour as host. It was either the pilot or an early episode. In any event, she was gonged by Jack Cassidy, who made some very cutting comments about her tap-dancing ability. My wife remembers wishing Jack Cassidy into the cornfield, and if you know my wife, you know she can throw triple whammys like nobody since Evil-Eye Fleegle.

Cassidy perished not long after.

As for my wife's performance, it perished when Barbour was canned before the show debuted, and Chuck Barris took his place. They asked her to come back, but she said F U.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at December 16, 2016 05:05 AM (0MKRD)

786 He was big in the early 70's.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2016 05:06 AM (lmIoG)

787 It is down to cat hearding as the other one is still not wanting to be with her sister so stays in the basement back rooms.But even when it is two its funny how when its time to go to the basement they have places they hide and can't be retrieved or paths to make the trip the longest like around love seat over the foot stool around back of chair, the other is behind the sofa waiting for her sister to get to the same point.

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2016 05:16 AM (5sOEp)

788 When I want to herd my cats, I shake the container of dry food. While we strive to give that sparingly compared to wet food, it is nevertheless like crack to our cats.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at December 16, 2016 05:25 AM (0MKRD)

789 Shake a bag of Temptations Kitteh Treats and here they come. Our Kittehs love that sound.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 16, 2016 05:32 AM (d76uN)

790 "The JEF and the red line comes to mind"

What does JEF stands for?

Posted by: Bill at December 16, 2016 05:32 AM (FbFKQ)

791 Jug Eared Fuck IIRC.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at December 16, 2016 05:33 AM (FqgrG)

792 You are correct on JEF.

Posted by: Catwrangler at December 16, 2016 05:35 AM (mdwk9)

793 A teaser. I had some straw in the back of the truck, Didn't unload it the day before. I look in the back and this momma cat comes at me like a she lion. Well, that means kittens. Two.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 16, 2016 05:42 AM (XQvbv)

794 potrzebie

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at December 16, 2016 05:43 AM (0MKRD)

795 More federal overreach? In general the definition of a felony is anything that you can be sentenced to more than one year in jail or fined more than $5,000.


So how can a crime with a $100,000 fine be considered a misdemeanor? In addition, any crime that punishes one offender with a $100K fine and lets another offender off with no charge what-so-ever is blatantly unconstitutional. At least, so says the federal courts a number of times in the past starting with Caldwell v Texas in 1891.


This Obama pen and phone "crime" will be struck down the first time it is challenged.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 16, 2016 05:45 AM (mpXpK)

796 Wind chill on top of Mount Washington in NH is -86F, so bundle up if you plan to hike Big George today.

Posted by: fluffy at December 16, 2016 05:55 AM (jw2Xw)

797 A balmy 11 degrees here this AM. Snow is coming though. How much? Monday we were told 8 to 12 inches OMG WINTER STORM WARNINGS!!!. Through the week it's varied from 5 to 8 today and 3 to 6 tomorrow, to 1 to 3 today and 1 to 3 tomorrow.

Now we are at 3 to 5 today and tomorrow.
But, they can project that the earth will be getting warmer in 20 years?

Posted by: Bruce at December 16, 2016 06:00 AM (8ikIW)

798 >>> But, they can project that the earth will be getting warmer in 20 years?

"Will Shriek Hysterically 4 Grant Money

Please Help"

Posted by: fluffy at December 16, 2016 06:02 AM (jw2Xw)

799 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2016 06:14 AM (u82oZ)

800 Ice pellets on the way, but a heat wave of 27 ℉.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2016 06:19 AM (u82oZ)

801
From IMDB:

Jack Cassidy was father, with Evelyn Ward of son David Cassidy, and father, with Shirley Jones, of sons Shaun Cassidy, Ryan Cassidy and Patrick Cassidy.

He died in a fire at his home after having fallen asleep on a couch while smoking a cigarette and his body was identifed only by the ring he had worn bearing his family's crest.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 16, 2016 06:22 AM (BK3ZS)

802 Mike Ironsides is today's 'bad guy'. Although, I suspect all bad guys in new projects will have red hair, because TRUMP.

Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2016 06:23 AM (2RVmA)

803 Rogue One was awesome. That's all I'm gonna say.

Posted by: CDR M at December 15, 2016 10:14 PM (9I51B)

You obviously don't know how to do a movie review.
Talk to Ace.

Posted by: Paladin at December 16, 2016 06:23 AM (q8X5O)

804 G'mornin' Horde !

-3 degrees, snowing. Must be wanting to get an early start on the 8 - 12 inches they're forecasting.

"But, they can project that the earth will be getting warmer in 20 years? "

With Absolute Certainty + Moral Authority !

Having already been there for the overpopulation and ice age panics, I was already more than half a disbeliever .... then they started with No You Can't See Our Proprietary Algorithm, onward to Oops The Dog Ate Our Raw Data ....
And here we are today where the raw data is being Adjusted before we even get to see it ....

Sorry, /rant

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 16, 2016 06:24 AM (nrnR5)

805 Posted by: creeper, yelling MERRY CHRISTMAS from her hill

Well, well, welllllllllllllllll!

Look who decides to show up.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 16, 2016 06:24 AM (d76uN)

806 15F here inside the Beltway

Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2016 06:26 AM (2RVmA)

807 Not to throw real science into the mix, but here is NOAA data that refutes the warmists:

http://tinyurl.com/j7kxgwd

The original predictions in the original papers are unfulfilled. "Bad scientist, no grant for you." would be appropriate.

Two big volcanic eruptions and we will beg for more coal plants to save the planet with CO2. Note the data point trend below the fitted line.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2016 06:28 AM (u82oZ)

808 {{{Creeper}}} How are you on that hill?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2016 06:29 AM (u82oZ)

809 24F here is the "sunny and warm" South.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 16, 2016 06:29 AM (mpXpK)

810 TIm inIL, do you need a bike flag to be seen above the snow?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2016 06:30 AM (u82oZ)

811 Not to be catty or anything (O.K. I am being) but check out this magazine cover for People Magazine. Did you see this in the supermarket?. Michelle looks like she's about 15 years younger. Quite a photoshop!!

http://tinyurl.com/zjvt4ke

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2016 06:31 AM (tOcW/)

812 Two big volcanic eruptions and we will beg for more
coal plants to save the planet with CO2. Note the data point trend
below the fitted line.



Posted by: NaCly Dog

But the sciencey guys said : Ya know, I just got this feeling that's it's going to get warmer.
Okay, good enough for us!

Posted by: Bruce at December 16, 2016 06:32 AM (8ikIW)

813 NaCly Dog.

Here we have nothing. Haven't seen a single flake yet. I'm in the middle of the state near Peoria.

Disappointing too. Need that Christmas Snowman.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 16, 2016 06:33 AM (d76uN)

814 And a comment following the photos-(There are two photos there): "Wow! Even when you were in the WH you never had a beautiful picture like this."

Why? Because as the Obamas head out the door we're supposed to think that Michelle is as or more stylish and lovely than Trump's wife. So lame.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2016 06:34 AM (tOcW/)

815 test

Posted by: Guy that's always testing at December 16, 2016 06:35 AM (voYu7)

816 Snow removal methods? WE don't need no stinkin' snow removal methods! (glances at Jeeps affectionately).

When the snow gets too deep that we cannot leave the driveway, WE STAY HOME. I used to shove snow, but then it would just snow again. What's the point?

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at December 16, 2016 06:36 AM (ixxO0)

817 Disappointing too. Need that Christmas Snowman.

Posted by: Tim

If you weren't such a traditionalist, you could make one out of the ice pellets (didn't that used to be sleet?) that are forecasted for you.

Posted by: Bruce at December 16, 2016 06:36 AM (8ikIW)

818 What's the point?

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid

My uncle, who had a farm, would always say he'd wait until the fourth to shovel.

The Fourth of July

Posted by: Bruce at December 16, 2016 06:38 AM (8ikIW)

819 >>> Did you see this in the supermarket?. Michelle looks like she's about 15 years younger. Quite a photoshop!!

Another reason why people hate the press.

Posted by: fluffy at December 16, 2016 06:38 AM (jw2Xw)

820 Tim in Illinois, just wait.

A grandfather lived in Peoria, and I still have some distant relatives living there.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2016 06:39 AM (u82oZ)

821 817
If you weren't such a traditionalist, you could
make one out of the ice pellets (didn't that used to be sleet?) that are
forecasted for you.


Posted by: Bruce at December 16, 2016 06:36 AM (8ikIW)

You haven't lived until you get caught on the highway in a sleet storm on a motorcycle w/o a face shield.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 16, 2016 06:39 AM (mpXpK)

822 You haven't lived until you get caught on the highway in a sleet storm on a motorcycle w/o a face shield.


Posted by: Vic

That sounds like too much fun. It's bad enough in a car.

Posted by: Bruce at December 16, 2016 06:40 AM (8ikIW)

823 Creeper's home IP is Pixy Banned. That's why her posts are disappearing.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 16, 2016 06:41 AM (d76uN)

824 822 That sounds like too much fun. It's bad enough in a car.


Posted by: Bruce at December 16, 2016 06:40 AM (8ikIW)

I thought I was going to go down to Tacoma, but somehow I decided to turn around and go back home.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 16, 2016 06:41 AM (mpXpK)

825 The second picture looks a little better-as far as age wise-but the first one is just ludicrous.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2016 06:42 AM (tOcW/)

826 Testing a new mop?

Posted by: Sam the Janitor at December 16, 2016 06:43 AM (ucA/p)

827 It's a cozy 17 near Reagan National Airport. I'm in a train though. Going

Very

Slowly

Home

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 16, 2016 06:44 AM (/sLYh)

828 {in an act of pure desperation, creeper tries it again}

Test

Posted by: creeper, lost in the Witopia web at December 16, 2016 06:44 AM (voYu7)

829 Looks like it will be a lovely sunrise.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 16, 2016 06:45 AM (/sLYh)

830 'Bout time for JJ

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 16, 2016 06:45 AM (mpXpK)

831 Ace!!! Get me out of here!!! Please.

Posted by: creeper, lost in the Witopia web at December 16, 2016 06:46 AM (voYu7)

832 821
817
If you weren't such a traditionalist, you could

make one out of the ice pellets (didn't that used to be sleet?) that are

forecasted for you.




Posted by: Bruce at December 16, 2016 06:36 AM (8ikIW)

You haven't lived until you get caught on the highway in a sleet storm on a motorcycle w/o a face shield.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


I always wore full face hats after a thunderstorm caught me out. Unfrozen water hurt, I don't even want to think what sleet would be like. Even if you were laying down on the tank and just peeking over the top of the speedo and tach it couldn't have been fun.

Posted by: Gmac- Deplorable Conservative at December 16, 2016 06:46 AM (4pjhs)

833 Even my husband laughed at the photo. "Good genes!!", he said.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2016 06:46 AM (tOcW/)

834 Work preps commence.

Have a serene day, everyone.
May every traffic light turn green as you approach.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 16, 2016 06:47 AM (u82oZ)

835
Having already been there for the overpopulation and ice age panics, I was already more than half a disbeliever .... then they started with No You Can't See Our Proprietary Algorithm, onward to Oops The Dog Ate Our Raw Data ....
And here we are today where the raw data is being Adjusted before we even get to see it ....

Sorry, /rant
=========
H. L. Mencken Quotes. The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

Or as I apply it to the Press:

Fear sells fishwrap.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at December 16, 2016 06:47 AM (FeQVL)

836 An inch or two of snow on the way to my hill tomorrow. Son was here this week. I flew him home from Tulsa yesterday...to a wind chill of -30 and six more inches on top of the eight they already have.

Hehehehe. And now you know why I moved, sweetie.

Posted by: creeper, lost in the Witopia web at December 16, 2016 06:48 AM (voYu7)

837 PS... Good Morning Daywalkers!

It's a smoking 23 degrees here this morning.

Posted by: Gmac- Deplorable Conservative at December 16, 2016 06:48 AM (4pjhs)

838 I always wore full face hats after a thunderstorm
caught me out. Unfrozen water hurt, I don't even want to think what
sleet would be like. Even if you were laying down on the tank and just
peeking over the top of the speedo and tach it couldn't have been fun.


Posted by: Gmac- Deplorable Conservative at December 16, 2016 06:46 AM (4pjhs)

It wasn't long after that I bought a face shield.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 16, 2016 06:50 AM (mpXpK)

839 Tried to get this in earlier and failed...

MisHum, I think I love you. That Carrie Underwood version of "O, Holy Night" had me in tears.

I'm not a very good atheist.

Posted by: creeper, lost in the Witopia web at December 16, 2016 06:50 AM (voYu7)

840 Accuweather is not calling for any Snow here today.

Bummer.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 16, 2016 06:55 AM (d76uN)

841 Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at December 16, 2016 06:47 AM (FeQVL)

My favorite Ambrose Bierce definition from 'The Devil's Dictionary':

Conservative, n: A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others.

Posted by: RickZ at December 16, 2016 06:57 AM (dQLTf)

842 So Obama is going to have another insufferable news conference at @ 2:30 today before he heads off to Hawaii. Will he say that the Russian hacking must be investigated and urge the electors not to vote for Trump or will he head out the door with some dignity?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2016 07:01 AM (tOcW/)

843 No headlines today.

CBD on Track2 with no Bar Car.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at December 16, 2016 07:02 AM (d76uN)

844 Being a bad atheist seems like a good thing overall.

That was beautiful. Squared.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 16, 2016 07:02 AM (nrnR5)

845 nood

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 16, 2016 07:03 AM (nrnR5)

846 Conservative, n: A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others.

Never seen that one before. That is good. Very good.

Posted by: SD at December 16, 2016 07:04 AM (fiGNd)

847 Trying to make battered spouse, but I don't know how much batter to make.

Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2016 10:46 PM (iMxBJ)

There's a Tempura Women's Shelter near me.

It's for lightly battered women.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 16, 2016 07:24 AM (4mIHO)

848 Anyone who lives in snow country who doesn't have a decent snow thrower and a wovel deserves the back ache they will get.

Snow thrower for when the snow is deep enough for it to pick it up and actually throw it some distance.

Wovel for when it's less than that. Archimedes principles of leverage are a wonderful thing in relation to snow shovels.

Posted by: Snidely Whiplash at December 16, 2016 11:24 AM (y6b1g)

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