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Food Thread: La Cuisine De L'Amérique Est La Meilleure Du Monde

The neo-luddites are at it again...demanding that we raise chickens the way they think they should be raised. You know, the way six-year-olds want the world to work.

California and Massachusetts (See! Red Sox fans are just incredibly...uh....stupid) are leading the way in the fight against perhaps the most incredible success story of the modern era, the ability to feed the world. Can Egg Producers Recover from November's Great Fall? That "fall" being stupid laws intended to make rich liberals feel good about themselves as they buy $5/dozen eggs. Of course it's not the 1%ers who suffer from rising food prices, and it isn't even much of America. But the people on the margins -- those who struggle to survive -- they are the ones who suffer and in some cases die.

So hipsters with more money than sense can virtue signal at the store by buying "Cage Free" eggs, even though caged hens might very well be safer and happier and healthier than their uncadged counterparts. But by all means, anthropomorphize your food sources!

The Unicorns And Flowing Meadows And Sweetness And Light World:

chicken idyll.jpg

This is what the idiots who buy the hype of free-range/responsibly grown/cage-free imagine the life of chickens from their favorite purveyors.

The Reality-Based World

corporate chicken.jpg

This is what it's really like, and actually, I couldn't find a more realistic photo. But these are animals, and their purpose is to feed us. Should we try to make their lives are as pain free as possible? Of course! But I would take a flame thrower to that flock to save the life of one human.

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From commenter "Donna," of ampersand fame.....

So, this guy is an accomplished writer, but unfortunately for him began life as a frog. But he saw the error of his ways, no doubt in part because he realized that damn! American food can be great!

Anyway, he waxed poetic about our grub:

Ted Morgan (the former Viscount Sanche de Gramont) prefaced the list by saying this:

"There is a great American cuisine, based not on fancy sauces but on matchless and fresh ingredients. The best trout dish is not the pretentious and flavor-disguising 'truite amandine,' but the trout that is fried in butter five minutes after it has been caught.

Ten Matchless American Things to Eat and Drink

1. Virginia Ham (superior to jambon de Bayonne)
2. Maple syrup
3. Jack Daniels sour mash whiskey (better than many cognacs as an after-dinner drink)
4. Soft-shell crabs
5. Florida pompano, perhaps the best saltwater fish in the world (avoid sauces - a dab of butter, a pinch of paprika and lemon pepper, and under the broiler)
6. Bay scallops, so delicate they can be eaten raw
7. Sweet corn, the Indian's greatest gift to the white man.
8. Grain-fed U.S.D.A. prime beef, finely marbled, and far superior to grass-fed Scotch beef and improperly aged French beef.
9. The Idaho potato, the best in the world, worth presenting in a Tiffany case
10. California wines, the finest of which, in recent international blind tasting (bear in mind, Morgan wrote this in 1978 ) have consistently won out over their French counterparts.

I could quibble with the order of the list, and Jack Daniels simply does not belong, but the point is well taken. American food is marvelous...certainly on par with the best that France has to offer. In particular I direct your attention to American beef, which is without peer. I have a bunch of French relatives, and whenever they come to America they want steak! And lobster (because it is obscenely expensive in France).

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Your Beverage Coaster Probably Came from This Small Town in Germany

The factory, in the town of Weisenbach, population just north of 2,500, is the headquarters and main manufacturing center for the Katz Group. Each day, it receives lumber at one end and puts out beer coasters on the other -- by the millions. The company produces 75 percent of the world's beer coasters, according to its own statistics, accounting for 95 percent of the American market.

I like coasters much more than those silly bar napkins, which actually irritate the shit out of me. Uh...folks, drinks tend to be cold, and condensation will always be a problem. Sure, if you are drinking shots the napkin is functional, but a tall beer on a hot day is a disaster waiting to happen.

And coasters allow one to practice hand-eye coordination with the old bar game of flipping it off the edge of the bar with the backs of your fingers and catching it in mid-air. It's good training for the Zombie Apocalypse!

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This is a great summer dressing, poured over fantastic fresh tomatoes!

Well, it's December, and great tomatoes exist only in our imaginations, so use it for salads or even on sandwiches instead of plain old mayo.

Basil-Buttermilk Dressing

  • 2 Cups Packed Basil Leaves
  • 3/4 Cup Buttermilk
  • 2 Green Onions, thinly sliced
  • 3/4 tsp. kosher salt
  • 3/4 cup Mayonnaise
    1/2 tsp. pepper

Blend the basil, buttermilk, sliced green onions and salt in a food processor or blender until smooth.
Transfer to bowl, add mayonnaise and pepper and whisk until smooth.
Let stand for 30 minutes, then check seasoning for salt and pepper.

Shrimp with Ceci Beans and Chiles

1 lb. good quality raw shrimp
1 can ceci beans
1-2 serrano chiles
Juice of one lemon
Extra Virgin olive oil
Chopped flat-leaf parsley
Kosher salt

Boil the shrimp until barely cooked. Overcooked shrimp taste like rubber bands, so be careful. Err on the undercooked side and you will be happy. Dump them in ice water to stop the cooking, then peel, cut into chunks a bit bigger than a ceci bean, and stick them in a bowl.

Open the can of ceci beans, rinse and drain them, and dump into the shrimp.

Now comes the fun part. If you like hot food, simply slice the serranos into thin rings and toss them into the shrimp bowl. If you don’t want the sometimes considerable heat from the serranos, you’ll have to remove the seeds and veins. But this dish looks great with those cool slices of chile so, using your thinnest bladed knife, slice the tips off the chiles and core them without slicing them lengthwise. It will take a few seconds, and don’t forget to wear gloves, or wash your hands thoroughly, or you may experience the joys of a capseicin burn on any mucous membrane you touch. Slice them into those rings I just described and toss them in with the shrimp and beans.

Dress the shrimp with the fresh lemon juice, a few tablespoons of olive oil (use something good), the chopped parsley and (this next step is important) and more salt than you might think. The shrimp aren’t salty, and the beans aren’t salted at all, so the dish will need a healthy dose of kosher salt.

Let it marinate for a few hours before you serve it in ramekins. This can be prepared in advance so your guests can enjoy (or suffer) your company.

Posted by: CBD at 04:00 PM




Comments

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1 Food!

Posted by: HH at December 11, 2016 03:56 PM (DrCtv)

2 Which one is Hillary?

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 03:58 PM (c8Ctg)

3 I had some Hoam once. Wasn't that impressed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 03:59 PM (0F67M)

4 Best eating fish in Florida is the Hogfish.

**Gets out Tee**

It's an ugly Snapper. But it is delicious.

*Waits*

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:00 PM (c8Ctg)

5 You fogot RC Cola in a bottle.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:01 PM (c8Ctg)

6 Got into last thread and forgot food thread was coming up.
Don't forget Cheesesteaks, yean they might have had rolls, steak, onions,peppers, cheese and sauce but who put them together?

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2016 04:02 PM (5sOEp)

7 5th

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 04:02 PM (rH4JY)

8 8th

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 04:02 PM (rH4JY)

9 I found some feathers with light blue on them. There was a scattered pile of them in a field near where I knew someone keeps chickens, like some critter had caught one and ate it there. Are there any chickens with light blueish feathers?

Posted by: freaked at December 11, 2016 04:02 PM (BO/km)

10 11) Maple syrup
12) Peanut butter
13) Our success at taking foreign cuisines and making something unique and equally wonderful

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 11, 2016 04:02 PM (J8/9G)

11 Interesting about the coasters. One town in Germany, eh?

Posted by: HH at December 11, 2016 04:02 PM (DrCtv)

12 I could quibble with the order of the list, and Jack Daniels simply does
not belong, but the point is well taken. American food is marvelous
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Oh. See, I thought Jack Daniels was the one that made the most sense.


Disappointed not to see Wisconsin Cheddar on that list. I mean, come on.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 04:03 PM (dFi94)

13 The food snobs that complain about American food always reduce it down to McDonald's or store bought sauces, which means that's the only "restaurant" they've been to and they like their meat smothered and unrecognizable.

Posted by: JSchuler at December 11, 2016 04:03 PM (HlV/4)

14 >>>It's an ugly Snapper. But it is delicious.


Whoa, Amy Schumer is delicious? I don't think so

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2016 04:03 PM (voOPb)

15 I am lucky enough to get fresh eggs (for free!) from my dear friend who lives two miles away, and her chickens and property look just like picture number one.

And I hate to admit it, but I don't notice any difference in taste from the eggs I get at Costco, my other source of eggs.

And I do love American cuisine, for sure.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:03 PM (sBOL1)

16 14. Carrot Chili

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:04 PM (c8Ctg)

17 Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:00 PM (c8Ctg)

Pan-fried Drumfish at Jacques-Imo's in New Orleans may be the best fish ever....at least in the top 10.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:04 PM (42Mgr)

18 "But I would take a flame thrower to that flock to save the life of one human"

Mmmmmm, flame-broiled!

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 04:04 PM (tHwdc)

19 I like coasters much more than those silly bar napkins
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I bought a coaster for my daughter for Christmas. It says "Men are all the same. They just have different heads so you can tell them apart."

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 04:04 PM (dFi94)

20 I just remembered why I do, indeed, sadly, have to leave the house today.

But it's food-related.

I rediscovered a lost childhood favorite: Galina's Piroshkis.

Probably inauthentic, being deep-fried and having a pastry texture more like a savory, dense cake donut than a baked roll.

But their beef and cheese model is damned near perfect convenience food. They also have a pizza-themed one, spinach and something, chicken I think.

Now, *I can't eat these*, being afflicted with the Dread Non-Tropical Sprue. But my family, particularly my Mom, can.

Discovered them at a discount store. Now I have to find a regular supply. We would talk about these often but neither of us remembered the name.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2016 04:04 PM (wB8Tg)

21 How do you say "big league" en francais?

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 04:05 PM (tHwdc)

22 Mmmm. Food. Nom nom nom.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:05 PM (0mRoj)

23 There are plenty of people who I value less than chickens. Angela Merkel, Valjar, all the migrants, and all the assholes who are spreading the fake news that Russia gave Trump the Presidency.
Chickens are just chickens, the other group are malignant

Posted by: Cn at December 11, 2016 04:05 PM (wczgi)

24 heh. French food. Making the best of being reduced to eating snails.

Posted by: PaleRider, link to funeral expense fund for SMFH's Carl at December 11, 2016 04:05 PM (Jen0I)

25 Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 04:03 PM (dFi94)

Oh...Bourbon certainly belongs...even the Frogs love it.

But Jack Daniels is too sweet.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:05 PM (42Mgr)

26 I like coasters much more than those silly bar napkins, which actually irritate the shit out of me. Uh...folks, drinks tend to be cold, and condensation will always be a problem.

This is so obviously true. I find myself taking napkins from the dispensers just to help the bartender along. It's just gross how they get stuck to the napkins because of condensation. Ugh! What is wrong with people? Coasters are reusable.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (rH4JY)

27 I love Virginia ham, but not everyone does. I'm surprised he's got it at number one.

The best way to have it is in ham biscuits, of course.

Homemade.

With butter.



Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (sBOL1)

28 >> I don't notice any difference in taste from the eggs I get at Costco, my other source of eggs.


She's giving you the old eggs...or they aren't getting enough nutrients.

Fresh eggs will be more orange than yellow hued yolked. Like a deep Goldenrod color.

And they'll sit up in the pan like 19 year old tits.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (c8Ctg)

29 Can't believe he didn't put shrimp and grits on the list.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (EnKk6)

30 Jim Beam before JD every time.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (lXIts)

31 Okay, I worked for a year at a commercial egg ranch. Two chickens to a cage with barely room to turn around. Houses were changed twice a year to have peak production for Easter and Christmas. They fed just enough minerals to have hard shells on the eggs. When you pulled the chickens out, it wasn't unusual for a leg to break. The chickens were turned into soup.

Producers could have avoided this by giving the chickens more room. They are animals and deserve decent treatment. Makes me sick how they raise pigs. Don't give them an opening to go after your industry.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (Lqy/e)

32 They forgot the corned Beef sandwich at the Carngie deli on that top 10 list.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (EZebt)

33 Hey, I love escargot. They're delicious in garlic butter and they disgust everyone else at the table.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 11, 2016 04:07 PM (J8/9G)

34 30 Jim Beam before JD every time.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (lXIts)

This

Posted by: Cn at December 11, 2016 04:07 PM (wczgi)

35 27 I love Virginia ham, but not everyone does. I'm surprised he's got it at number one.

The best way to have it is in ham biscuits, of course.

Homemade.

With butter.



Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (sBOL1)

Make me some?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:07 PM (0mRoj)

36 One of the best American cuisines is - no joke - American Chinese food. In Hawaii, I could get unfamiliar but tasty authentic Chinese or fusion cuisine or food court Panda Express stuff, but I never found a single place that could knock out some classic red naugahyde booth tasseled lantern American-style Chinese like you can get in pretty much any mainland city. It was an odd thing to miss.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 11, 2016 04:07 PM (8nWyX)

37 I'd hit it.

Posted by: Ernie Anastos at December 11, 2016 04:08 PM (rH4JY)

38 >Pan-fried Drumfish at Jacques-Imo's in New Orleans may be the best fish ever....at least in the top 10.


I've had Monk fish that made me want to cry every time I took a bite...because, less.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:08 PM (c8Ctg)

39 I don't mind the little bar napkins. A trick I learned years ago was to sprinkle a bit of salt on the napkin. Then the napkin won't stick to the glass.

Posted by: bocephus at December 11, 2016 04:08 PM (e0YhB)

40 6. Bay scallops, so delicate they can be eaten raw

If I live ten million years, I will look back fondly on how I *never* did this.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2016 04:08 PM (wB8Tg)

41 34 30 Jim Beam before JD every time.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (lXIts)

This
Posted by: Cn at December 11, 2016 04:07 PM (wczgi)

Oh hell no. Beam is easily the worst whiskey I've ever had the displeasure of drinking.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:08 PM (0mRoj)

42 But I would take a flame thrower to that flock to save the life of one human.
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Sounds tasty! Pass the hot sauce, please.

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 04:08 PM (8FCOT)

43 garrett, she's not giving me the old eggs! My son collects them the day they are laid. They're good, sure, but they're . . . eggs. I guess I don't have a discerning palate.

As for the rest, well, I haven't been 19 for quite a few years, so I'll have to take your word for it.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:09 PM (sBOL1)

44 They forgot the corned Beef sandwich at the Carngie deli on that top 10 list.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (EZebt)

Katz's has Carnegie (which is closing at the end of the year) beat by a mile.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:09 PM (42Mgr)

45 13) Our success at taking foreign cuisines and making something unique and equally wonderful

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner


Depends on your audience. We are unsurpassed at making good, hearty, unpretentious food. If you doubt that, all you have to do is travel to a foreign country, where you'll find American chains everywhere. We're not the best at making fussy, finicky food, but we're getting better, if that's the right word. Such food can be a whole different experience, but is not generally worth the effort, and certainly not on a daily basis, IMHO.

It's like the people who wax rhapsodic over a $20k bottle of wine, but who wouldn't be able to pick it out from a selection of much cheaper wines. It's a social status statement, not a gastronomic one.

Scotch, now that's a different story.

Posted by: pep at December 11, 2016 04:09 PM (LAe3v)

46 "But I would take a flame thrower to that flock to save the life of one human"

+++

I think it kinda depends of what human beings you are talking about. 'Cause I've got a running tab of people that I would not save from a chicken mob attack.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:09 PM (CFc5L)

47 Hey, I love escargot. They're delicious in garlic butter and they disgust everyone else at the table.

The one time I've had them, in Brussels, that's exactly what they tasted like; butter and garlic. The snailness of them seemed to be overlookable, like octopus.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 04:09 PM (0F67M)

48 Make me some?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:07 PM (0mRoj)
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Sure! I'll start soaking the ham now.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:09 PM (sBOL1)

49 Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:08 PM (0mRoj)

Carrots in your chili too.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 11, 2016 04:10 PM (lXIts)

50 I think my daughter gets free-range organic eggs. Organic milk too. Her pediatrician said to pick the top 5 things her kids eat, and do the organic thing with those, and don't sweat the rest. Oh yeah, she does the free range organic chickens too. Those kids eat a lot of chicken. Hopefully by keeping them away from hormones and soy, the boys won't grow flabby boobs.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 04:10 PM (dFi94)

51 >>Katz's has Carnegie (which is closing at the end of the year) beat by a mile.



I used to go there with my Grandfather...

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:10 PM (c8Ctg)

52 46 "But I would take a flame thrower to that flock to save the life of one human"

+++

I think it kinda depends of what human beings you are talking about. 'Cause I've got a running tab of people that I would not save from a chicken mob attack.
Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:09 PM (CFc5L)

I have a running tab of people to flamethrow along with the chickens.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:10 PM (0mRoj)

53 I've had Monk fish that made me want to cry every time I took a bite...because, less.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:08 PM (c8Ctg)

Monk fish is great. But too few places trim it correctly, and I think that puts people off. And that's fine with me, because it hasn't skyrocketed in price yet.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:10 PM (42Mgr)

54 Pan-fried Drumfish at Jacques-Imo's in New Orleans may be the best fish ever....at least in the top 10.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:04 PM (42Mgr)

You need to spend some time in the upper-Midwest, I'll put your drumfish up against Walleye, perch or bluegill any day of the week.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2016 04:10 PM (voOPb)

55 I love monkfish! It has the biggest flakes of flesh and it's so tender yet substantial, almost like lobster. Plus, they are the ugliest suckers:

https://tinyurl.com/huepzvx

They were overfished and you couldn't get it for years. I've seen it at Wegman's for a king's ransom.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 04:11 PM (EnKk6)

56 49 Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:08 PM (0mRoj)

Carrots in your chili too.
Posted by: weirdflunky at December 11, 2016 04:10 PM (lXIts)

Heh. Nope. I just find Beam to be disgusting. There's a whole laundry list of bourbons I enjoy.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:11 PM (0mRoj)

57 I guess softshell crabs are good enough if you can't get Maine lobster.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:11 PM (mgbwf)

58 How do you say "big league" en francais?

Le Big-le.

Posted by: pep at December 11, 2016 04:11 PM (LAe3v)

59 I used to go there with my Grandfather...

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:10 PM (c8Ctg)

Which one? (Deli, not grandfather...)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:12 PM (42Mgr)

60 And it's been over 20 years and I still have problems eating eggs. When you have 20 feet of belt covered in smashed eggs, during 90 degree weather, you remember that smell. I have my own chickens but it doesn't matter.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 11, 2016 04:12 PM (Lqy/e)

61 Katz's has Carnegie (which is closing at the end of the year) beat by a mile.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:09 PM (42Mgr)


I've mail-ordered Katz's pastrami before. Worked out to about $30/lb with shipping.

Worth it. Even though I had to mail-order Ba'tampte mustard too, because you can't find it here.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 11, 2016 04:12 PM (8nWyX)

62 48 Make me some?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:07 PM (0mRoj)
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Sure! I'll start soaking the ham now.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:09 PM (sBOL1)

You are a wonderful lady.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:12 PM (0mRoj)

63 grammie, I'm with you on the Wisconsin cheddar. It's good stuff.

I also would put in a vote for Maryland crabs. And I would vote for lobster too, except that it makes me throw up. So no to lobster, yes to crab.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:12 PM (sBOL1)

64 Agreed on adding peanut butter to the list.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 11, 2016 04:12 PM (lXIts)

65 I miss being able to get Ankimo at the Sushi Bar.


Not that I would trust it in Montana.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:13 PM (c8Ctg)

66 58 How do you say "big league" en francais?

Le Big-le.
Posted by: pep at December 11, 2016 04:11 PM (LAe3v)

Royale league. Because of the metric system.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:13 PM (0mRoj)

67 Mis Hum is right. Walleye is really good.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 04:13 PM (dFi94)

68 Yay! The children thread!

Posted by: The Clinton Foundation at December 11, 2016 04:13 PM (EB1oa)

69 One of the best American cuisines is - no joke - American Chinese food.

Indian is coming on strong. I suspect it's closer to the original than Chinese food, but that's just a guess. Give me a good Lamb Masala and I'm a happy camper.

Posted by: pep at December 11, 2016 04:13 PM (LAe3v)

70 They are animals and deserve decent treatment. Makes me sick how they raise pigs. Don't give them an opening to go after your industry.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (Lqy/e)


Unfortunately, most people are "binary thinkers." If you simply want to be humane to food animals, then you're accused of wishing for personal masseuses for each chicken. If you defend eating meat, someone will accuse you of wishing to vivisect Bambi.

Frankly, it's become one of them thar "religious issues."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2016 04:13 PM (wB8Tg)

71 Katz's has Carnegie (which is closing at the end of the year) beat by a mile.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


I work a few blocks down from Carnegie deli. There's always a huge line to get in there. Are you sure it's closing?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 04:13 PM (rH4JY)

72 I would add the Klondike Bar to the list.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 04:13 PM (0F67M)

73 California wine...."Bottle Shock" is a good movie.
Love Alan Rickman in it, at his snobby Brit best.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2016 04:13 PM (NOIQH)

74 I've seen it at Wegman's for a king's ransom.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 04:11 PM (EnKk6)

It's $10-$13/pound around here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:14 PM (42Mgr)

75 The company produces 75 percent of the world's beer coasters

Bierdeckels! Was wondering what you were talking about. Had never seen a wooden coaster at a bar.

Posted by: t-bird at December 11, 2016 04:14 PM (7H/2n)

76 @18
Ha! Great minds & all that

Yes to the Va ham biscuits. There's a place on Midlothian turnpike in Southside Richmond that kills it with the biscuits. I used to buy them by the dozen & eat all day long on them.
WTH was the name of that place?


Oh, and CBD - You had me at "soft-shelled crabs"

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 04:14 PM (8FCOT)

77 Posted by: pep at December 11, 2016 04:09 PM (LAe3v)

Point taken. But I mean, I've had Engish pizza: like tomato sauce poured on cardboard. For good middle-of-the-road food, Tex-Mex, American Chinese and Italian.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 11, 2016 04:14 PM (J8/9G)

78 Royale league. Because of the metric system.

Wouldn't it be League Royale because, Frog.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 04:14 PM (0F67M)

79 I have Jack Daniel's BBQ sauce. I really like it.

Posted by: HH at December 11, 2016 04:14 PM (DrCtv)

80 Are you sure it's closing?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 04:13 PM (rH4JY)

Yup.

http://tinyurl.com/jro3pen

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:15 PM (42Mgr)

81 #11) State fair "food on a stick"

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2016 04:15 PM (NOIQH)

82 Bandersnatch - I've never been a big fan of lobster. I don't think I've ever ordered it in a restaurant. I did enjoy the lobster we had right on the waterfront when we visited Maine.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 04:15 PM (dFi94)

83 Fried Cheese Curds!

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 04:15 PM (dFi94)

84 #11) State fair "food on a stick"

Yes, and preferably deep fried.

Posted by: stace, deplorable at last at December 11, 2016 04:16 PM (ozZau)

85 It's $10-$13/pound around here.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:14 PM (42Mgr)
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I can be there in 4 hours. Pair it with a small salad and an insouciant little white, please.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 04:17 PM (EnKk6)

86 Lower East Side.

Though there was a smaller Kosher Deli that was within walking distance of his apartment on Park Ave that he liked, too.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:17 PM (c8Ctg)

87 While I have youse all here - anybody got any good recipes for appetizers that aren't too heavy? I've got plenty for things that are oozing with melted cheese, etc., but would love to have some that are not gut-busters.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:17 PM (sBOL1)

88 But I mean, I've had Engish pizza: like tomato sauce poured on cardboard.

Was that at an American chain? I mean, if it's really British, then nuff said. Except for their Indian.

Interesting note: I've had pizza in Italy, and it tasted not unlike what you describe. Other countries develop the basic concept, and we turn it into something everyone likes.

Posted by: pep at December 11, 2016 04:17 PM (LAe3v)

89 Fresh eggs will be more orange than yellow hued yolked. Like a deep Goldenrod color.



And they'll sit up in the pan like 19 year old tits.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (c8Ctg)

I always fed my chickens the carrot scrapings. The yolks made the most gorgeous cakes.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 04:18 PM (tHwdc)

90 I love me some lobster. Crab too. They may be 8-legged scavengers but damn they're tasty.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:18 PM (0mRoj)

91 Monkfish used to be called "poor man's lobster", now even it is pricey because of overfishing.

Fish counters at supermarkets depress me. It's all either bland farmed nonsense (tilapia? South American carp that have been raised on pellets; Atlantic salmon that need food dye to be pink, etc.) or woefully overpriced wild caught fish, so priced because they're being fished out of existence. Cod is all previously frozen Pacific cod, where cod is the traditional king of the North Atlantic.

It saddens me as a man who loves fish. Every stock everywhere is stressed to the breaking point.

And I'm guilty because fish tastes good and catching fish is fun.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:19 PM (mgbwf)

92 "But I would take a flame thrower to that flock to save the life of one human."

Napalm-fried chicken? What the hell, I'm willing to try it. What kind of beans on the side?

Posted by: Captain Comic at December 11, 2016 04:19 PM (B5Qml)

93 87 While I have youse all here - anybody got any good recipes for appetizers that aren't too heavy? I've got plenty for things that are oozing with melted cheese, etc., but would love to have some that are not gut-busters.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:17 PM (sBOL1)


Bruschetta on thin slices of toasted baguette.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 11, 2016 04:19 PM (8nWyX)

94 I only have one quibble with that top ten list. It should be George Dickel No. 12 instead of Jack Daniels. A vastly superior Tennessee sippin' whisky.

It's sad that Mrs. JTB is allergic to any seafood and shellfish. I feel bad that she misses out on so much good eating.

Posted by: JTB at December 11, 2016 04:19 PM (V+03K)

95 Pair it with a small salad and an insouciant little white, please.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 04:17 PM (EnKk6)

Seriously? What does it cost wherever you live?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:19 PM (42Mgr)

96
I have been told that chicken raisers need only offer the birds a door to the outside (into a penned in area, of course) in order to have their products qualify as "free range" poultry.

In the next breath they'll say that the beasts almost never go outdoors because... chickens. Imagine that.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 11, 2016 04:19 PM (qurRi)

97 87
While I have youse all here - anybody got any good recipes for
appetizers that aren't too heavy? I've got plenty for things that are
oozing with melted cheese, etc., but would love to have some that are
not gut-busters.





Posted by: bluebell


I made bacon-wrapped water chestnuts for our office Xmas party (yeah, we Feds all just live the high-life), and they seemed to go over very well. Lots of recipes online.

Posted by: pep at December 11, 2016 04:19 PM (LAe3v)

98 I knew Indian food would be coming. Love Indian people, can't stand Indian food.

The whole mustard/tumeric/cumin spectrum is not something I'm up for.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2016 04:20 PM (wB8Tg)

99 I know these folks are fanatics. I worked with a gal, whose mom was in PETA. She told me she wouldn't wear alpaca, because they kill them to get the hair. I told her that was bull. They shear them, just like getting a hair cut. She started wearing alpaca.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 11, 2016 04:20 PM (Lqy/e)

100 I love crab too. My current favorite is stone crab claws, and we're also on a crab (blue) fingers kick at Casa Stace.

Posted by: stace, deplorable at last at December 11, 2016 04:20 PM (ozZau)

101
Homemade fresh salsa always goes over well for parties.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 11, 2016 04:21 PM (qurRi)

102 Bluebell - These go well with wine, not filling or greasy. People I've served them to loved 'em:

http://www.finecooking.com/recipes/cheddar-cayenne-coins.aspx

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2016 04:21 PM (NOIQH)

103 Humane and organic food is a good pro-hunting argument. Free range critters, no antibiotics etc. Too bad I'm a not a good shot. Dad is a decent shot but not a good hunter (get up early to be in place to increase odds of seeing the game - does not happen).

This year I bought my dad a Buffalo hunt. Shoot a youngish cow raised on a big ranch in Nebraska. Hopefully it will not be difficult to cook the bison to taste yummy. Guaranteed meat and much shorter amount of PTO I had to take at any rate.

Posted by: PaleRider, link to funeral expense fund for SMFH's Carl at December 11, 2016 04:22 PM (Jen0I)

104 And they'll sit up in the pan like 19 year old tits.
Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:06 PM (c8Ctg)

What are you, the straight version of Jeffrey Dahmer?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:22 PM (0mRoj)

105
Seriously? What does it cost wherever you live?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:19 PM (42Mgr)
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I kid (make it a hearty red).

When last I saw it -- and this was a while back -- it was like 19 or 20 bucks a pound.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 04:22 PM (EnKk6)

106 I have been told that chicken raisers need only offer the birds a door to the outside (into a penned in area, of course) in order to have their products qualify as "free range" poultry.

In the next breath they'll say that the beasts almost never go outdoors because... chickens. Imagine that.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 11, 2016 04:19 PM (qurRi)
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If that is the only requirement then next they'll add games for chickens and designated nap times.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:22 PM (CFc5L)

107 California legislature passed, and Jerry Brown signed, legislation to regulate methane produced by cattle. Yes, that happened. Milk is already high priced here. When I visit my mother in Idaho, it's easy to see the price difference in dairy products. Beef, I don't know, since I didn't do that much grocery shopping for her on visits. With regulation of methane production by cattle I can see much of beef and dairy production moving out of state or shutting down. Which, of course, leads to higher prices. It's not like everyone in California is in the top 1%. Or 3%. Or 5%. Good on ya, California politicians. They are well-paid, and don't need to concern themselves with the prices of food.

Posted by: GunsGardensandYarn at December 11, 2016 04:23 PM (/K1AJ)

108 anybody got any good recipes for appetizers that
aren't too heavy?

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:17 PM (sBOL1)

Shrimp with ceci beans and chiles.

You can serve it in ramekins. And make it ahead of time.

I think I posted it before, but I'll put it up again.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:23 PM (42Mgr)

109 While I have youse all here - anybody got any good
recipes for appetizers that aren't too heavy? I've got plenty for
things that are oozing with melted cheese, etc., but would love to have
some that are not gut-busters.





Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:17 PM (sBOL1)

I always serve my Asian meatballs. Sautee 2 thinly sliced scallions in a little bit of butter, and mix with 1 lb pork sausage, 1 beaten egg, 3 T soy sauce, 1/4 cup minced water chestnuts, 3 minced garlic cloves (pressed it OK too), 1 T minced fresh ginger and 1/2 c plain breadcrumbs. Roll into 1" balls and bake for 20 minutes at 350-375F. Served with dipping sauce - 1/3 c mayonnaise, 1 T rice vinegar and 1 1/2 tsp wasabi paste. Makes about 45 pieces.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 04:23 PM (tHwdc)

110
Oh hell no. Beam is easily the worst whiskey I've ever had the displeasure of drinking.
Posted by: Insomniac
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Um, no. True story from just last night:

I looked at my bottle of boots shelf bourbon & realized I had maybe a drink & a half.
So I called my next door neighbor, who currently owes me a few 100 bucks (a month now).
"Dude, I need one, two or all three of these things from you tonight.
The money you owe me, whatever bourbon you have in the cabinet, or at minimum a ride to the liquor store."

He gave me his Canadian Mist. That shit is worse than it was when I used to sneak it fom dad's bittle. I much prefer my Colonel's Pride @ $16.99 per handle.

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 04:23 PM (8FCOT)

111 I'm a good shot but a terrible hunter in every other respect. No early rising, no patience, not totally opposed to cleaning but get sick of it fast.

Also would probably end up posting pictures of animals and then go to grocery store later.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2016 04:24 PM (wB8Tg)

112 Bluebell - These are also good, but labor-intensive. I brushed them w/greek salad dressing instead of drizzling w/oil, and made the portions small so one fits on a small toothpick and all fit in one bite.

http://www.finecooking.com/recipes/greek-salad-skewers.aspx

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2016 04:24 PM (NOIQH)

113 Several years back, there was a Dutchman who was experimenting with a way to grow meat in a tank. How is that going? It seems that is the easiest way to put an end to all this conflict. Everyone's happy. It's like how the DVD put an end to the "be kind rewind" bullshit.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 04:24 PM (rH4JY)

114 And what do you guys think about the whole grain-fed versus grass-fed beef thing? Because I've read so much about how cows are ruminants, and grass-fed is so much better because it's how their stomachs are made to work, etc. etc. Which all sounds well and good.

But. One year I bought half a totally grass-fed cow. Every single cut of meat was unbelievably tender, even the so-called tougher cuts. Yet no one liked the taste! We are all so used to the grain-fed stuff, and loved it so much, that we just couldn't get used to the grass-fed stuff. We ate it, it took a year, but we didn't do it again.

Just wondering what you all think about grain-fed vs. grass-fed.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:24 PM (sBOL1)

115 anybody got any good recipes for appetizers that
aren't too heavy?

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:17 PM (sBOL1)

I hear chili with carrots is a thing.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 11, 2016 04:24 PM (lXIts)

116 Love Indian people, can't stand Indian food.

Indians, like Indian food, are either delightful or awful with little in between.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 11, 2016 04:25 PM (J8/9G)

117 Bam! I don't know who Ted Morgan is, but he nailed it.

Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2016 04:25 PM (hOptz)

118 Those Dolphin Cheerleaders are all soaking wet.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:26 PM (c8Ctg)

119 He gave me his Canadian Mist. That shit is worse than it was when I used to sneak it fom dad's bittle. I much prefer my Colonel's Pride @ $16.99 per handle.
Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 04:23 PM (8FCOT)

Well there's your problem right there. That ain't bourbon.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:26 PM (0mRoj)

120 I made butterscotch chip cookies, pumpkin bread, eggnog muffins, and bacon cheese biscuits for a bake sale.

Made savory scones today for a party.

Had planned to make a platter of goodies for a gift exchange at the party, but then I found out about the bake sale. Nuff's enough.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2016 04:26 PM (gTQoY)

121 Pass the hot sauce....somehow that got ingrained into my head that it means Hillary, got to get that out of my head!

Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2016 04:26 PM (ogUTd)

122 I raise my own chickens and their eggs are fucking great. I feed them scraps from the local green grocer and they dig for bugs. The yokes are day glow orange. They are so yoke some.

When they aren't laying I find the regular cheap jumbos are the best value. No where near as good as fresh eggs from my chickens, but actually equal or better to so called "organic" or "free range" eggs.

Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at December 11, 2016 04:27 PM (hUf3d)

123 Jeepers creepers. Look at all those peepers!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 11, 2016 04:27 PM (IqV8l)

124 He gave me his Canadian Mist. That shit is worse than it was when I used to sneak it fom dad's bittle.


Even bad Bourbon is Bourbon, which means it's pretty good.

Most Canadian whiskeys, and I think especially Canadian Mist, are grain alcohol with some whiskey flavor.

That's brain damage stuff.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:27 PM (mgbwf)

125 "Bay scallops, so delicate they can be eaten raw..."
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A decade or two ago you used to see those in the grocery store all the time and they were always much cheaper than those giant sea scallops. (Also much tastier, IMO.)
Now I rarely find them.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 11, 2016 04:27 PM (Nox3c)

126 Yuck. Nasty, stupid chickens.
I hate my chickens but continue to feed them and take care of them even though they are useless and don't even lay eggs anymore. Total money losers. Chickens are the worst.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:28 PM (6IPEM)

127 Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:17 PM (sBOL1)

Oops, forgot the actual recipe for bruschetta:

Shock/blanch and peel four tomatoes, then dice them about the size of the tomato chunks in salsa. Peel and mince two garlic cloves. Toss it all in a saucepan with a splash of olive oil and simmer low for 15-20 minutes, then stir in chopped basil and serve it with a plate of toasted baguette slices and let people top the bread themselves. It's really good if you also have some real mozzarella slices to go between the toast and the bruschetta, but you mentioned that you were already going cheese-heavy...

Posted by: hogmartin at December 11, 2016 04:28 PM (8nWyX)

128 California legislature passed, and Jerry Brown signed, legislation to regulate methane produced by cattle.

Cow farts are one of the greatest sources of global warming. Bishop Katharine Jefferts-Schori said it. Can't have that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 04:28 PM (rH4JY)

129 Just wondering what you all think about grain-fed vs. grass-fed.

Grass-fed all the way for me. I come from a small farm so I remember how good things can taste and how good it is for the soil.

Posted by: t-bird at December 11, 2016 04:28 PM (eeTCA)

130 121 Pass the hot sauce....somehow that got ingrained into my head that it means Hillary, got to get that out of my head!
Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2016 04:26 PM (ogUTd)

*shudder*

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:29 PM (CFc5L)

131 128 California legislature passed, and Jerry Brown signed, legislation to regulate methane produced by cattle.

Cow farts are one of the greatest sources of global warming. Bishop Katharine Jefferts-Schori said it. Can't have that.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 04:28 PM (rH4JY)

What are they going to do, feed them Pepto?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:29 PM (0mRoj)

132 Katz's has Carnegie (which is closing at the end of the year) beat by a mile.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:09 PM (42Mgr)
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*heart skips a beat*

Yet another piece of my childhood gone. Well, got to grow up sometime.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 11, 2016 04:29 PM (EZebt)

133 Several years back, there was a Dutchman who was experimenting with a way to grow meat in a tank.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 04:24 PM (rH4JY)


I think eventually it will be synthetic, but it will be so close to original that your body will be fine with it.

The real problem will be that no one with a properly functioning set of taste buds has ever worked in the food industry. I swear every single time I hear the phrase "it tastes the same (or better)" I just assume the person has no sense of taste at all.

Indians, like Indian food, are either delightful or awful with little in between.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 11, 2016 04:25 PM (J8/9G)


I do admit I have not met all of them.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2016 04:29 PM (wB8Tg)

134 Thanks for all the appetizer ideas, you nice people. They all sound yummy.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:29 PM (sBOL1)

135 Grass Fed, Grain Finished.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:29 PM (c8Ctg)

136
If that is the only requirement then next they'll add games for chickens and designated nap times.


Safe spaces!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 11, 2016 04:30 PM (qurRi)

137 I offered him the bottle back about an hour ago and he said no, keep it for a backup bottle.
Backup for what? When I run out of paint thinner?

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 04:30 PM (8FCOT)

138 Just wondering what you all think about grain-fed vs. grass-fed.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:24 PM (sBOL1)

I agree with you.

It's definitely an acquired taste. Although I wonder whether the feed is the only variable.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:30 PM (42Mgr)

139 99 I know these folks are fanatics. I worked with a gal, whose mom was in PETA. She told me she wouldn't wear alpaca, because they kill them to get the hair. I told her that was bull. They shear them, just like getting a hair cut. She started wearing alpaca.
Posted by: Notsothoreau


I wouldve told her they kill rayon and nylon too

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2016 04:30 PM (voOPb)

140 >>Cow farts are one of the greatest sources of global warming. Bishop Katharine Jefferts-Schori said it. Can't have that.


#WarOnLivestock

They want to make us all vegans.
We do not observe "Meatless Monday."

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2016 04:30 PM (NOIQH)

141 Grass Fed, Grain Finished.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:29 PM (c8Ctg)
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garrett, I wondered about that. Will that taste more what I am used to?

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:30 PM (sBOL1)

142 Grain Finished.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:29 PM (c8Ctg)

No getting around the fact that fat tastes great.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:31 PM (42Mgr)

143 126 Yuck. Nasty, stupid chickens.
I hate my chickens but continue to feed them and take care of them even though they are useless and don't even lay eggs anymore. Total money losers. Chickens are the worst.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:28 PM (6IPEM)

+++

That's interesting. I guess they get too old. How long do chickens live?

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:31 PM (CFc5L)

144 But I would take a flame thrower to that flock to save the life of one human.

And we all know where to get one.

Especially that fat one in the third aisle - with mole.

Do you really think you can use peanut oil in a flame thrower?

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2016 04:31 PM (8J/Te)

145 Cow farts are one of the greatest sources of global warming. Bishop Katharine Jefferts-Schori said it. Can't have that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 04:28 PM (rH4JY)

Tip, buy stock futures for catalytic converters for cattle..Should be big in California...not so much anywhere else.

Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2016 04:31 PM (ogUTd)

146 That's brain damage stuff.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:27 PM (mgbwf)


I believe the expression is "I wouldn't even clean a wound with that."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2016 04:32 PM (wB8Tg)

147
Chickens are the worst.


I, for one, eagerly await my replacement.

-- the chicken who is always getting fooked

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 11, 2016 04:32 PM (qurRi)

148 I've got plenty for things that are oozing with melted cheese, etc., but would love to have some that are not gut-busters.

Posted by: bluebell


Fresh fruit/ fruit supremes, veggies, sun-dried termaters or tapenade on french bread.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 11, 2016 04:32 PM (1G5R8)

149 Way OT but I watched Lucky Number Slevin on Netflix this afternoon. Pretty good crime flick.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:33 PM (0mRoj)

150 Straight grass fed rarely gets to develop the same ammount of interstitial fat, unless they are placed in a lot and fed ground graasses.

Also, the grain produces a slightly more yellowed fat than the grass. I find it is a bit tastier, myself. Bit sweeter.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:33 PM (c8Ctg)

151 I loved that little free-range chicken in the GEICO ad, the one who rode the rails. I was surprised that PETA didn't throw a fit over it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 11, 2016 04:34 PM (Nox3c)

152 It's definitely an acquired taste. Although I wonder whether the feed is the only variable.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:30 PM (42Mgr)
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I figured if we didn't acquire the taste after a year, it wasn't going to happen. It was a shame, really. That was not a cheap cow.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:34 PM (sBOL1)

153 That's interesting. I guess they get too old. How long do chickens live?
Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:31 PM
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Too long. I think 5-7 yrs. I'm down to 3 and started with 8. At least my rooster finally croaked. He was just awful and so mean. He could sing though. I do miss that about him. Even the hens are mean.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:34 PM (6IPEM)

154 It's bloody cold here so there's stew stewing in the pot. Nothing pretentious and flavor-disguising, just meat, potatoes, carrots and parsnips.

And dumplings. There will be dumplings.

Posted by: all doubt removed at December 11, 2016 04:35 PM (Z+wR7)

155 Pan-fried Drumfish at

Shore Lunch Walleye for the win.

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2016 04:35 PM (8J/Te)

156 @149
Great flick.
Cool cast, witty dialogue, decent action - I liked it a lot when I saw it.

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 04:35 PM (8FCOT)

157 Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:33 PM (c8Ctg)

My bet is that you are getting better grass-fed beef than I can get.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:35 PM (42Mgr)

158 In my experience cage-free chickens wind up getting eaten by free-ranging coyotes, martens, and foxes.

Posted by: Zombie Frank Perdue at December 11, 2016 04:35 PM (611Lm)

159 Whenever I hear the Food Police yakking about something, I reach for my Browning.


And I like my chicken fried, thank you very much.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 11, 2016 04:35 PM (5VlCp)

160 143 126 Yuck. Nasty, stupid chickens.
I hate my chickens but continue to feed them and take care of them even though they are useless and don't even lay eggs anymore. Total money losers. Chickens are the worst.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:28 PM (6IPEM)

Soup time at L, Elle's

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 11, 2016 04:36 PM (voOPb)

161 >>Shore Lunch Walleye for the win.


Trout, eggs, black coffe at sun up.

Even better if you still have your waders on.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:36 PM (c8Ctg)

162 L' Elle, I don't mean to sound heartless, but have you considered . . . eating them?

Okay, that sounds heartless. But I mean, if they are no longer giving eggs, and you hate them, why not? They would be great stewing hens, I'll bet.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:36 PM (sBOL1)

163 87>> Try this.
Package of cream cheese
Package of bacon
Package of crab meat
A bunch of cilantro
A dozen large jalapeņos

Cut the tops off the peppers and deseed them. Remove the stems from the cilantro. Finely dice the garlic. Cut the bacon into 1/2 inch pieces and cook it; drain the fat, add some butter and the garlic.

Put the peppers on the grill (or under the broiler) until the waxy outer skin bubbles. Run them under cold water to remove the skin and stop them from cooking.

Mix the remaining ingredients in a bowl and then put it into a plastic bag. Cut the corner off and pipe the mixture into the peppers. Chill them for about an hour.

Serve with cold beer.

Posted by: Barky McFuckstick's Rogue Teleprompter at December 11, 2016 04:36 PM (GUqTq)

164 That was not a cheap cow.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:34 PM (sBOL1)

How could you tell? Nicely manicured hoofs? Elegant diamond studs?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:36 PM (42Mgr)

165 126 Yuck. Nasty, stupid chickens.
I hate my chickens but continue to feed them and take care of them even though they are useless and don't even lay eggs anymore. Total money losers. Chickens are the worst.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:28 PM (6IPEM)

+++

That seems a reasonable age. Not like parrots who can live to over 150, that would be horrible. So when do they stop laying eggs, about 3-4 ?

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:36 PM (CFc5L)

166 I think most of our eggs are produced in Maine.

Posted by: fluffy; Masshole at December 11, 2016 04:37 PM (jw2Xw)

167 >>My bet is that you are getting better grass-fed beef than I can get.


Yeah. For nothing. It's silly.

My neighbor runs 70 pair on our grazing land up north.

If I want Beef, I can just ask for it...but, I'd rather eat the Deer and the Antelope.

Neighbor thinks I am insane.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:37 PM (c8Ctg)

168 How could you tell? Nicely manicured hoofs? Elegant diamond studs?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:36 PM (42Mgr)
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It wasn't wearing a Yankees cap. Backwards.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:37 PM (sBOL1)

169
153 Too long. I think 5-7 yrs. I'm down to 3 and started with 8. At least my rooster finally croaked. He was just awful and so mean. He could sing though. I do miss that about him. Even the hens are mean.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:34 PM (6IPEM)


Give a look at sweasel.com. She's an American who lives in England and writes often about her flock of chickens. Pretty funny stories sometimes.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 11, 2016 04:38 PM (qurRi)

170 Way OT but I watched Lucky Number Slevin on Netflix this afternoon. Pretty good crime flick.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:33 PM (0mRoj)


Yeah, pretty clever dialogue, some action, good actors. Gives you enough information to figure it out but it's okay if you don't until later.

"That's quite a story."
"Charlie Chaplin once entered a Charlie Chaplin look-alike contest in Monte Carlo and came in third. That's a story."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2016 04:38 PM (wB8Tg)

171 It's definitely an acquired taste. Although I wonder whether the feed is the only variable.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:30 PM (42Mgr)


True, but grain-fed is an acquired taste too - it's just that most of us have spent years acquiring it.

In Mark Kurlansky's Cod: A Biography of the Fish that Changed the World, he mentions that in the Caribbean, higher quality salt cod doesn't sell very well and that producers have to intentionally salt it poorly (I don't know quite what that entails). The people there are often the descendants of slaves, and even though they can now afford better quality stuff, it doesn't taste right. It's kind of like the soul food thing, I guess. If you grew up with it, something more expensive and "higher quality" isn't going to be the same.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 11, 2016 04:38 PM (8nWyX)

172 Related to the one little town that make all the coasters:
Almost all dominos are made in Waco, Texas.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at December 11, 2016 04:39 PM (JQyHQ)

173 Cause I've got a running tab of people that I would not save from a chicken mob attack.

Morally that would be wrong, Comedically it would be epic.

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2016 04:39 PM (8J/Te)

174 For the first time, having egg nog spiked with vanilla vodka. Pretty tasty.

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2016 04:39 PM (LXxM7)

175 54 ... MH, Got to agree. When in Wisconsin recently I had walleye for the first time. Now I know why people are such enthusiastic walleye fishermen. Probably the best fresh water fish I ever tasted, even better than most trout. I can get perch in Virginia, although uncommon in restaurants. Wisconsinites really know how to prepare fresh water fish.

Question: Do walleye taste different or better pulled from the ice or open water?

Posted by: JTB at December 11, 2016 04:39 PM (V+03K)

176 5. Florida pompano, perhaps the best saltwater fish in the world
(avoid sauces - a dab of butter, a pinch of paprika and lemon pepper,
and under the broiler)


Salmon cooks very well this way. Most edible fish do, IMHO.

Honestly, the defining characteristic of American cuisine is that this is what ordinary folk working to feed themselves have brought to its pinnacle. The potatoes, the wheat and all made from it, the beef, all of it...that wasn't made by aristocrats for aristocrats. This is the true triumph of the common man: The sweat of our labor puts meals on our plates that would once have made kings cry from joy.

And any sonofabitch of denigrates that or denies it to the American people can go to hell.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at December 11, 2016 04:39 PM (vyqqu)

177 Alberta beef > American beef

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2016 04:40 PM (LXxM7)

178 Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:37 PM (c8Ctg)

I hate you.

Although I found a great place in Tarrytown, just north of the station that serves a great elk burger.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:40 PM (42Mgr)

179 In my experience cage-free chickens wind up getting eaten by free-ranging coyotes, martens, and foxes.
Posted by: Zombie Frank Perdue at December 11, 2016 04:35 PM (611Lm)
****
You have no idea how tempted I am to "forget" to put them back in their coop when I let them out to run around and eat grasshoppers. So many times I have let them out, a pack of coyotes come running toward my house and I have to fire my shotgun to scare them away to protect my stupid chickens that I hate.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:40 PM (6IPEM)

180 it's fun to look at newspapers from 50 or 100 years ago. the ads are interesting, they show how people lived and what things cost.

before the war (ww II), chicken and eggs were much more expensive than they are now, relatively speaking. eggs were about the same price as in stores today, a dollar something a dozen. amazing.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 11, 2016 04:40 PM (WTSFk)

181 CBD, I thought we might be getting a recipe for squirrel stew today.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:40 PM (sBOL1)

182 In Mark Kurlansky's Cod: A Biography of the Fish that Changed the World,


Oh, that's the best book ever. I didn't know anyone else had read it who I didn't waterboard into reading it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:40 PM (mgbwf)

183 >> Alberta beef > American beef


We call that Horse.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:41 PM (c8Ctg)

184 172 Related to the one little town that make all the coasters:
Almost all dominos are made in Waco, Texas.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at December 11, 2016 04:39 PM (JQyHQ)

+++

The stuff you learn here is amazing - grain fed/grass fed, chicken husbandry and coaster and domino manufacturing. All good!

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:41 PM (CFc5L)

185 Working on daughter's B'day dinner.

Fried Chicken w/ waffles and maple surp
Bacon wrapped green beans
Garlic cheese grits
Fried apples
Bread pudding w/ bourbon sauce

Y'all are invited.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 11, 2016 04:41 PM (Dhht7)

186 I kind of have a gripe. Why is shrimp on the Atlantic coast so dang expensive? I can get good shrimp for $5.50/lb straight off the boat back home. Man, I miss that.

Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2016 04:42 PM (hJamr)

187 You have no idea how tempted I am to "forget" to put them back in their coop when I let them out to run around and eat grasshoppers. So many times I have let them out, a pack of coyotes come running toward my house and I have to fire my shotgun to scare them away to protect my stupid chickens that I hate.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:40 PM (6IPEM)

++++

That sounds exciting. No. joke.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:42 PM (CFc5L)

188 ... there are sites that show prices for things from the past. those are interesting, too.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 11, 2016 04:42 PM (WTSFk)

189 Oh, that's the best book ever. I didn't know anyone else had read it who I didn't waterboard into reading it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:40 PM (mgbwf)
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*raises hand*

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:42 PM (sBOL1)

190 It wasn't wearing a Yankees cap. Backwards.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:37 PM (sBOL1)

I sat next to a Red Sox fan last night at dinner (just outside of Boston).

You would have been very proud of him. he didn't spill much food on his lap, and he even chewed with his mouth mostly closed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:42 PM (42Mgr)

191 cbd, here is a picture and article about this chicken change. Frank calls his set up: chicken Disneyland.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22chicken+disneyland%22&t=hs&ia=web

click on the link, should be at the top that mentions this.

I tried to link to it but the commenting software won't let me.

Posted by: sally at December 11, 2016 04:42 PM (kxT6D)

192 170 Way OT but I watched Lucky Number Slevin on Netflix this afternoon. Pretty good crime flick.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:33 PM (0mRoj)

Yeah, pretty clever dialogue, some action, good actors. Gives you enough information to figure it out but it's okay if you don't until later.

"That's quite a story."
"Charlie Chaplin once entered a Charlie Chaplin look-alike contest in Monte Carlo and came in third. That's a story."
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2016 04:38 PM (wB8Tg)

Kansas City shuffle...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:43 PM (0mRoj)

193 Chicken Riggies, Utica Greens, Rudis Chili Sauce, Cornell Chicken, Buffao Wings, Salt Potatoes. Hoffmann Hots. The best cuisine in the world comes from upstate NY.

Posted by: Regular joe at December 11, 2016 04:43 PM (ROIz5)

194 Ten Matchless American Things to Eat and Drink

11) Toll House Cookies (aka Chocolate Chip)

Posted by: cookie monster at December 11, 2016 04:43 PM (IQI2h)

195 Oh, that's the best book ever. I didn't know anyone else had read it who I didn't waterboard into reading it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:40 PM (mgbwf)
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*raises hand*

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:42 PM (sBOL1)




Well, I'll waterboard you anyway. I think it could be sexy.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:43 PM (mgbwf)

196 160. They are probably tough old birds and would only be edible in soup. Were those chickens in my yard I'd probably leave the pen gate open come summer when they birds would go bug foraging, out into coyote territory. Interesting to hear this from L'elle, though because many people I know who raise chickens seem quite fond of them and say the birds are semi-pets.

Posted by: PaleRider, link to funeral expense fund for SMFH's Carl at December 11, 2016 04:43 PM (Jen0I)

197 And any sonofabitch of denigrates that or denies it to the American people can go to hell.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at December 11, 2016 04:39 PM (vyqqu)


THEY MAY TAKE MY LIFE, BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE MY SAUSAGE GRAVY!

Oh, crap. I just realized I have the ingredients, now I have to make fried eggs, sausage gravy and biscuits substitutes.

I say biscuit substitutes because I have the very biscuity hot dog buns, and it's just so much easier.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2016 04:43 PM (wB8Tg)

198 You sound like Rush L. who gets all bent and snarky about stories of people spending dough and time freeing a whale trapped in the ice.

Feel sorry for you.

See if you can get by with last year's X-Box. Spend the money on free range and grass fed. You'll be better for it.

Posted by: Bobby Ahr Dee at December 11, 2016 04:44 PM (zmZ2x)

199 Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:40 PM (mgbwf)

It's a great book. Better than his next one: "Salt."

And have you read "The Big Oyster?" That's fun too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:44 PM (42Mgr)

200 I bet whale is delicious.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:45 PM (c8Ctg)

201 age. Not like parrots who can live to over 150, that would be horrible. So when do they stop laying eggs, about 3-4 ?
Posted by: washrivergal at December 1
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Yup. They also don't lay eggs once the weather gets cold. Stupid lazy pampered chickens. I wish I was a meaner person and could just butcher them but that just seems wrong to eat them after I have raised them since they were chicks. I have no problem with letting my friends hunt my wabbits and doves, but I can't kill my stupid horrible chickens

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:45 PM (6IPEM)

202 >.Way OT but I watched Lucky Number Slevin on Netflix this afternoon. Pretty good crime flick.

Yeah. Also like the song at the end/closing credits (just try not dancing to it).

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2016 04:45 PM (NOIQH)

203 And have you read "The Big Oyster?" That's fun too.


I have not. What's the gist?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:45 PM (mgbwf)

204 185 Working on daughter's B'day dinner.

Fried Chicken w/ waffles and maple surp
Bacon wrapped green beans
Garlic cheese grits
Fried apples
Bread pudding w/ bourbon sauce

Y'all are invited.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 11, 2016 04:41 PM (Dhht7)

*drools*

Posted by: The South at December 11, 2016 04:45 PM (EB1oa)

205
This is what it's really like, and actually, I couldn't find a more realistic photo. But these are animals, and their purpose is to feed us. Should we try to make their lives are as pain free as possible? Of course! But I would take a flame thrower to that flock to save the life of one human



Oh joy, chickens walking around and laying eggs in their shit.

So healthy and good for you!

Posted by: buzzion at December 11, 2016 04:45 PM (bMG0w)

206 Well, I'll waterboard you anyway. I think it could be sexy.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:43 PM (mgbwf)
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He'll waterboard, you, Bluebell, but then he'll cook you breakfast. He's a gentleman cad.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 04:46 PM (EnKk6)

207 Spend the money on free range and grass fed. You'll be better for it.

Posted by: Bobby Ahr Dee at December 11, 2016 04:44 PM (zmZ2x)

You can be a douchebag in political threads, but not here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:46 PM (42Mgr)

208 I wouldve told her they kill rayon and nylon too


I remember when might herds of Naugas thundered across the plains. All gone now.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 04:46 PM (0F67M)

209 And any sonofabitch of denigrates that or denies it to the American people can go to hell.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at December 11, 2016 04:39 PM (vyqqu)


Amen.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 11, 2016 04:46 PM (J8/9G)

210 >>> 11) Toll House Cookies (aka Chocolate Chip)

Invented at the Toll House restaurant in Whitman, MA.

Posted by: fluffy; Masshole at December 11, 2016 04:47 PM (jw2Xw)

211 What's the gist?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:45 PM (mgbwf)

The oyster industry in NYC, from its origins before settlers arrived to its current state.

It's a food geek book, but still....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:47 PM (42Mgr)

212 I say biscuit substitutes because I have the very biscuity hot dog buns, and it's just so much easier.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2016 04:43 PM (wB8Tg)
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Nope nope nope nope nope nopity nopity nope nope.

Real biscuits, buster.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:47 PM (sBOL1)

213 I had a friend who raised a bunch of chickens on his ranch.

he always used to get mad at me for trying not to hit them when I drove around the place.

"Dammit, G -You ever watch the Dukes of Hazard?!
How many barnyards did they roll through?
You ever see them hit a chicken?
"No. Because it's impossible!"

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:47 PM (c8Ctg)

214 Salt and Cod I liked. The Big Oyster and the other one he did on, ironically enough, American cuisines, I wasn't as thrilled with. I like the books that he writes a lot more than the ones that are curated articles where he writes a little introduction for each one.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 11, 2016 04:47 PM (8nWyX)

215 Yeah, pretty clever dialogue, some action, good actors. Gives you enough information to figure it out but it's okay if you don't until later.


Exactly. It's a bit like LA Confidential that way.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:47 PM (0mRoj)

216 Y'all are invited.

I might need directions.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 11, 2016 04:47 PM (IcT7t)

217 Posted by: Bobby Ahr Dee at December 11, 2016 04:44 PM (zmZ2x)


This guy is a troll obsessed with Limbaugh.

Posted by: buzzion at December 11, 2016 04:49 PM (bMG0w)

218 Dallas is a 3.5 pt favorite tonight over the Giants. I would give the points.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 04:50 PM (0F67M)

219 Yup. They also don't lay eggs once the weather gets cold.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:45 PM (6IPEM)


Have you tried putting a work lamp on a timer in the coop? I always heard it was the shorter days and not the cold that makes them slow down laying. Although if they're old enough, that's not going to help either.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 11, 2016 04:50 PM (8nWyX)

220 >Whitman, MA.

Posted by: fluffy; Masshole

Yep. No Yankees fans allowed.

Posted by: cookie monster at December 11, 2016 04:50 PM (IQI2h)

221 Long story ahead.

Went to a local sushi chain a few months ago (sushi was fine, but my favorite eel dragon rolls seem to have disappeared lately) which reminded me I hadn't had plum wine since sometime before John died (no, plum wine was never mentioned, behold the power of the female brain). Last week I finally went to the liquor store and along with the plum wine I got a Vino Verde (I think it was mentioned on a food thread a while back) and a "Galilee White" called Mount Hermon. The Vino Verde was under $7 and is possibly the first wine I've ever *truly* enjoyed drinking. The Israeli wine is perfectly decent (at least to my unrefined palette) but at $15 I won't get it very often. I treat the plum wine like a liqueur since it is like liquid candy so it will last me quite a while unless I decide to use it for cooking.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 11, 2016 04:50 PM (sEDyY)

222 208 I wouldve told her they kill rayon and nylon too


I remember when might herds of Naugas thundered across the plains. All gone now.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 04:46 PM (0F67M)

The plains Indians stampeded them off cliffs.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:50 PM (0mRoj)

223 This guy is a troll obsessed with Limbaugh.

Name one that isn't.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 04:50 PM (0F67M)

224 My brother likes his chickens, but if he didn't all he would have to do to get rid of them is leave them out at night. Every once in while a coon or owl still gets one when the hens are outside too late.

The only thing he doesn't like is that the birds come up on the porch to be closer to the humans inside, and they poop all over it.

We're in the same neighborhood, and here's a dumb thing that happened last week. We're in the middle of the big city, but in a flood basin, so there's some urban wildlife, including exactly two deer, both bucks.

People feed the bucks, and apparently the younger one started becoming aggressive to people because the rut is on. Parks and Wildlife had to come remove it because since people had been playing with it, it had lost its fear.

I don't know if the "removal" involved a high velocity injection of vitamin Pb or not, but if it did I hope someone got some nice backstop and sausage out of Bucky.

Posted by: stace, deplorable at last at December 11, 2016 04:51 PM (ozZau)

225 Yup. They also don't lay eggs once the weather gets cold. Stupid lazy pampered chickens. I wish I was a meaner person and could just butcher them but that just seems wrong to eat them after I have raised them since they were chicks. I have no problem with letting my friends hunt my wabbits and doves, but I can't kill my stupid horrible chickens
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:45 PM (6IPEM)

+++

I wouldn't be able to do it either. I wouldn't want to get to know any kind of meat I eat. I'd wanna stay emotionally detached from my food even if I hated them.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:51 PM (CFc5L)

226 This guy is a troll obsessed with Limbaugh.

Posted by: buzzion at December 11, 2016 04:49 PM (bMG0w)

Weird huh!

Personally I don't find Limbaugh attractive at all, but to each his own...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:51 PM (42Mgr)

227 Thanks for posting Morgan's list, CBD! Yeah, I wouldn't have Jack Daniels on my top ten either. I'd substitute peanut butter(crunchy). And walleye and deep fried cheese curds are great.

Bear in mind that this list dates from 1978, so his picks might be different today. He also had high praise for McDonalds fries, but that's when they were still cooked in beef fat.

I thought it was great that he defended fast food. I imagine food snobs, knowing the guy was once a French aristocrat, made comments to him about terrible American fast food and would have been taken aback if he replied, "Hey, I like KFC!"

Posted by: Donna&&&&V.(brandishing ampersands) at December 11, 2016 04:51 PM (P8951)

228 *backstrap*, not backstop. But you all knew that.

Posted by: stace, deplorable at last at December 11, 2016 04:52 PM (ozZau)

229 The plains Indians stampeded them off cliffs.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 04:50 PM (0mRoj)
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Let us not even mention the plight of the hunted-to-extinction polyester.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:52 PM (sBOL1)

230 Give a look at sweasel.com. She's an American who lives in England and writes often about her flock of chickens. Pretty funny stories sometimes.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 11, 2016 04:38
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Oh yeah? I'll take a look at it. Maybe it will help me hate my terrible chickens less. Here is something nice about chickens that isn't about fried chicken and omelette, they really are quite pretty birds. Even my dead mean rooster was quite majestic. He was a very proud, tough bird. They are also fascinating to watch I. Their interaction with each other. Pecking order, hen pecked, cocky ---- all words that take on a new meaning when you watch them.

Scariest thing in the world. Not coyotes. They're acufly big scaredy cats. A rooster with his hair standing up and claws out coming at you trying to pick a fight. One of the happiest days of my life was the day I found him dead.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:52 PM (6IPEM)

231 Do walleye taste different or better pulled from the ice or open water?

I'm crazy but I'm not ice-fishing crazy!

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2016 04:52 PM (8J/Te)

232 Let us not even mention the plight of the hunted-to-extinction polyester.


It was the seventies. Who can blame us for thinking we'd never run out of them?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 04:53 PM (mgbwf)

233 Agree with the comment on binary thinkers.

And since I live in farm country and have lots of farmer friends and neighbors who raise animals humanely and a couple who are more into the intense factory farm ideas, I can steadfastly say that the general run of the mill farmer takes care of their animals much better than the factory farmer guys. The factory farmer guys are producing a commodity and cannot afford to think about their animals in the same way a smaller producer can.

I'm sorry, but the photo above of the 100,000 chicks being raised in a factory farm doesn't make the argument of how we are 'feeding ' the world as a morally superior agricultural producer. it means we know how to mass produce. The morality of how we do that to other living beings always must be examined.

We have a lot of know how. We should be able to use that know how to continue to improve the short lives of animals produced for food.

And if I choose to buy my food from individual producers who have chosen not to embrace as much profit motive as a giant producer because they don't have to subject their animals or themselves to what it takes to mass produce animals and animal products, that doesn't make me a virtue signaling liberal.
I'm someone who has made a choice in how I treat animals via what I am willing to pay for the privilege of ending their lives and eating them.
For someone who doesn't have the means to pay $3 for a dozen eggs and can only afford $1, I am glad they are able to have that choice. I'm glad I have the choice of going a different route.

I wish the choices were more equal.




Posted by: Jen at December 11, 2016 04:53 PM (be9L9)

234 How do you say "big league" en francais?
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 04:05 PM


Royale with cheese.

Posted by: zombie Vincent Vega at December 11, 2016 04:53 PM (DMUuz)

235 grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016

grammie, been in agricultural production for 30+ years. Now I spend my time (on beh. alf of a major international restaurant chain) defending modern food production from the dim-wits CBD refers to.
Just FYI: There have NEVER, EVER been hormones fed, injected or added in any way to chickens. Like all leftists, animal rights and food production critics are only credible because of the ignorance of their audience.

Posted by: Alamo at December 11, 2016 04:53 PM (aVNi6)

236 I wouldn't be able to do it either. I wouldn't want to get to know any kind of meat I eat. I'd wanna stay emotionally detached from my food even if I hated them.
Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:51 PM (CFc5L)
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I have a friend who told me that growing up, her family bought a pig and kept it down the street at the neighbor's house. And the kids would go down the street and feed the pig and talk to the pig, and he was their cute pig.

And then one day the pig was in the freezer.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:54 PM (sBOL1)

237 I'm sorry, but apple fed smurfs from England are far superior in taste to American grain fed smurfs.

Posted by: Gargamel at December 11, 2016 04:54 PM (rH4JY)

238 American grain fed smurfs are four apples tall.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 04:55 PM (0F67M)

239 I'm currently cooking a bunch of skin-on drumsticks in the crockpot in a bath of the Mt. Hermon white wine, leftover homemade cranberry sauce, a *very* generous squirt of Sriracha sauce, ponzu soy sauce, and sesame oil. I have the drumsticks arrange so that the skin (mostly) isn't in the liquid and am very curious how it turns out. The strange thing is that , when I took the lid off to check, it smelled a little like an Asian peanut sauce even though there are no peanuts involved.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 11, 2016 04:55 PM (sEDyY)

240 You want Walleye through the ice or just after ice out, but well before the spawn.

Firm. Still a decent amount of fat.
Delish.
Boring to fish for, but delish.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:55 PM (c8Ctg)

241 Heh. All this talk about raising chickens reminds me why I also read Stoaty Weasel's joint too...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at December 11, 2016 04:56 PM (vyqqu)

242 >>>Although I found a great place in Tarrytown, just north of the station that serves a great elk burger.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo<<<

When the elk come down out of the mountains to graze in stubble fields 100 feet from the highway, you know the temperature is going to drop severely. This is the best time to get in on a special hunt. 500 head of elk, stubble field, either sex, yummy. Oh, and -15deg F.

Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2016 04:56 PM (hOptz)

243 One of the happiest days of my life was the day I found him dead.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:52 PM (6IPEM)


A neighbor asked me to feed his ducks and chickens while he and his wife were on vacation. The ducks were no problem, the hens were no problem, the rooster tried to kill me.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 11, 2016 04:56 PM (J8/9G)

244 Now I spend my time (on beh. alf of a major
international restaurant chain) defending modern food production from
the dim-wits CBD refers to.

Posted by: Alamo at December 11, 2016 04:53 PM (aVNi6)

So...do you use a 12 gauge or a pistol?

Seriously, it's incredible the amount of Fake News! that permeates our food.

Good on ya!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 04:57 PM (42Mgr)

245 American grain fed smurfs are four apples tall.

Posted by: Grump928(C)


And those are the good American apples, not the smaller, less tasty Euro apples.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at December 11, 2016 04:57 PM (vyqqu)

246 Shh. The vultures ...

Posted by: Just the Punchline at December 11, 2016 04:57 PM (0F67M)

247 > I treat the plum wine like a liqueur since it is like liquid candy so it will last me quite a while unless I decide to use it for cooking.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

Look for a bottle of Slivovitz (Sljivovica, Slivovitza, Schlivowitz, or Slivovitsa), a fruit brandy made from damson plums, often referred to as plum brandy.

Very tasty.

Posted by: eastern european plum brandy at December 11, 2016 04:57 PM (IQI2h)

248 Probably the sesame oil that smells a bit like peanuts, Polliwog.

Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2016 04:58 PM (hJamr)

249 >> 500 head of elk, stubble field, either sex, yummy. Oh, and -15deg F.


Please tell me this is on your place, and you are in Montana.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:58 PM (c8Ctg)

250 I wouldn't be able to do it either. I wouldn't want to get to know any kind of meat I eat. I'd wanna stay emotionally detached from my food even if I hated them.
Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:51 PM
****
I actually want to get a couple steer. I have talked to some friends who have raised them and they said don't name them or else you won't be able to slaughter them. Too late. I already have two names picked out. Angus and Malcolm.
Angus are the breed that do well here in CO.

The steer will wind up being like my chickens. Money losers that I can't slaughter, but I'm set on getting them.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:58 PM (6IPEM)

251 You know what makes for bad meat?

Stress.

The more stress, the worse the meat.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:59 PM (c8Ctg)

252 The ducks were no problem, the hens were no problem, the rooster tried to kill me.
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 11, 2016 04:56 PM (J8/9G)
------------------

Same with the first rooster my friend had. The whole family hated him, as did my son who would take care of the chickens (and other animals) when they went out of town.

They all rejoiced when he got predated one day. Just disappeared.

The next batch of chickens they got, they wound up with two roosters, and were worried they'd have to get rid of one. But those two roosters have been fine together, and far superior to that monster they started with.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:59 PM (sBOL1)

253
Over at sweasel.com, Thursday, she had a post up about the British Government telling everyone about a serious outbreak of avian flu in Europe and that everyone who has chickens should keep their birds inside until further notice; avian flu being carried by wild birds.

So much for free range chickens.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 11, 2016 05:00 PM (BL0JD)

254 Nope nope nope nope nope nopity nopity nope nope.

Real biscuits, buster.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:47 PM (sBOL1)


Rules are for people that aren't slowly killed by rules.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2016 05:00 PM (wB8Tg)

255 One magnificent food left off the "Ten Matchless American Things to Eat and Drink" list is fresh caught Alaskan King Salmon. We get it flown in (western Washington State). Lightly grilled or slow-baked with a light brush of olive oil, lemon, fresh thyme and lavender, and coated with sea salt, and, my God, it's pure heaven.

Posted by: Cascadia at December 11, 2016 05:00 PM (/KZjg)

256 Boring to fish for, but delish.


Not when a 13# pike eats it on your 4# line.

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2016 05:01 PM (8J/Te)

257 I wish the choices were more equal.

Posted by: Jen at December 11, 2016 04:53 PM (be9L9)

Yes, but when people on the margins of starvation begin to die because the developed world wants to feel good about themselves by treating animals as if they were human, we have a problem.

I understand your point, but we simply disagree.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 05:01 PM (42Mgr)

258 Jen at December 11, 2016 04:53 PM

What a huge load. Tell me Jen, when have you visited a "factory farm"? What is your definition? While you're at it, what credentials or experience do you possess to make these judgements?

I work all over the world, including the developing world where food accessibility or food security is constantly at risk. The fat, stupid and affluent people who have never been hungry, or worried that their food is safe make these hugely uninformed pronouncements.
Food activism is leftism in microcosm: People ignorant of food production or animal husbandry criticizing those who produce.

Posted by: Alamo at December 11, 2016 05:02 PM (aVNi6)

259 Today, ingredients.
Tomorrow, Christmas cookies.*

* Some assembly required

Note to self: Doing a double batch of rum balls does not mean you can consume one half performing quality control.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 11, 2016 05:02 PM (FtrY1)

260 233 And since I live in farm country and have lots of farmer friends and neighbors who raise animals humanely and a couple who are more into the intense factory farm ideas, I can steadfastly say that the general run of the mill farmer takes care of their animals much better than the factory farmer guys.
Posted by: Jen at December 11, 2016 04:53 PM (be9L9)
---------------------------------------------

I live in the Midwest a bit of a drive from farm country, and I hope the family farms can continue to hang on by catering to the lib market. We may not like them but why not use them to keep smaller farms profitable? As it is many farmers need to have a job off the farm to keep the farm itself going.

Posted by: Boots at December 11, 2016 05:03 PM (EBwPV)

261 >>>Please tell me this is on your place, and you are in Montana.
Posted by: garrett<<<

It's all legal, Bro.

Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2016 05:04 PM (hOptz)

262 Posted by: pep at December 11, 2016 04:09 PM (LAe3v)

For me, bento boxes are that "fussy, finicky food". I love the concept, and am in awe of all the Japanese mothers who actually make such things every day (although, come to think of it, they probably make them for 1 child not 4) but refuse to spend the time and effort it would take to make a beautiful box that will just get scarfed in two minutes. This is also why we eat "sushi salad" which is all the ingredients of a California roll, but chopped up and mixed together instead of being rolled.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 11, 2016 05:04 PM (sEDyY)

263 >>It's all legal, Bro.


No. I want to come and kill an Elk!

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 05:05 PM (c8Ctg)

264 216
Y'all are invited.



I might need directions.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 11, 2016 04:47


Go S on I-55 from STL for 120 miles. Take exit 99. Make left at first stop light. Go to Sprigg St make right. Left on Bertling. Right into next subdivision. Last house on the right. Serving at 5:30.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 11, 2016 05:05 PM (Dhht7)

265 If you're going State-specific on these things like ham and wine best believe its IOWA sweet corn uber alles~

Posted by: jerbear at December 11, 2016 05:06 PM (vgWWj)

266 Without "industrial farming", the US would have a real problem with starvation like other parts of the world.

A population in excess of 300 million can not be fed by free range farming.

Can not.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 11, 2016 05:06 PM (lXIts)

267 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeBc_3S4gvk

How it's made beer coasters

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2016 05:07 PM (8J/Te)

268 >>IOWA sweet corn uber alles~


Colorado's Olathe corn is to die for!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 11, 2016 05:08 PM (NOIQH)

269 No. I want to come and kill an Elk!

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 05:05 PM (c8Ctg)

If you get an elk then I get a matchmakers fee.

Which of course is some of that elk.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 05:08 PM (42Mgr)

270 Thank you for acknowledging that Jack ain't bourbon.

Posted by: teh Wind at December 11, 2016 05:09 PM (x2bNT)

271 @139 I wouldve told her they kill rayon and nylon too
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Naugas!

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 11, 2016 05:10 PM (H5rtT)

272 That's interesting. I guess they get too old. How long do chickens live?

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 04:31 PM

*****

Too long. I think 5-7 yrs. I'm down to 3 and started with 8. At
least my rooster finally croaked. He was just awful and so mean. He
could sing though. I do miss that about him. Even the hens are mean.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 04:34 PM (6IPEM)

I had chickens in Sweden. The rooster was Bill (he never shut up, crowing even in the middle of the afternoon). The alpha chicken was Hillary. They had a falling out once, she wouldn't even look at him and didn't want to be near him. So I let her out of the pen and she was hanging out with me. She'd follow me on the bench by the back door when I took a cig break from gardening.
You wouldn't think you could have a relationship with chickens, but you kind of can.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 05:10 PM (tHwdc)

273 I only saw 2 bag o dicks comments for Krugtron.

Here's another GBOD.

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2016 05:10 PM (8J/Te)

274 I love bento boxes! They are kind of food art. I love Japanese food. Having made it myself, I now understand why sushi is so expensive. It's so labor intensive to make. All the prep to make sushi is incredibly time consuming. You have to be really dedicated to make sushi.

Jerky too. Takes forever to make

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:10 PM (6IPEM)

275 just put on a pot of cinnamon stewed apples because the kid doesn't eat them fast enough. yummy

chop em up
cinnamon
little nutmeg
fistful of brown sugar
little salt
apple juice, sparingly

cook it down for about 45 minutes

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 05:10 PM (U0lQa)

276 IOWA sweet corn uber alles~


Can't get Iowa corn same-day on the East coast.

Same day corn is sugar, next day corn is starch.

Might as well eat carrot chili.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 05:10 PM (mgbwf)

277 One food arena where the US used to be the best in the world and is now near the bottom of the pack is cider (i.e. alcoholic fermented cider.)

Back in the Revolutionary War era cider was the #1 drink in the nation, far surpassing beer or wine or hard liquor. And people had planted the right kind of apple trees all over the country (as it existed then), so there was always a big supply of the raw material.

In fact, Johnny Appleseed didn't go around planting edible apple trees -- he went around planting cider apple trees! A detail that is now lost to most people's imaginations of history.

"But wait," you're saying, "there's a difference between edible apples and cider apples?"

Yes indeed. There are three fundamental "types" of apples:

"Sweet apples," which is what we now think of simply as "apples" -- the big crunchy sweet kind that you can eat.

"Sour apples," now mostly known as "crabapples," which are mostly useless except for making things with their pectin.

"Bitter apples," now mostly unknown in the US, but still planted widely in France and England. THESE are the apples you are supposed to make true cider out of. As the name implies, they're slightly too bitter to eat, but their chemical makeup is absolutely perfect for fermenting a delicious kind of apple cider, a process during which the bitterness goes away.

If you've ever tasted true cider made from bitter apples (which is what they serve you in Somerset and Normandy), you'll know that cider made from sweet apples is atrocious by comparison.

And that's the tragic part of our story.

Because of the arrival of so many German and Bohemian and Polish immigrants in the second half of the 19th century in the US, beer started to surpass cider in popularity nationwide, and then when Prohibition hit, cider production was stopped entirely. And what happened was that ALL -- or almost all -- the bitter apple trees in the United States were left to die or were torn out and make room for more useful trees.

So that by the time Prohibition ended, there was no longer any way to make true cider in any quantity, and as a result beer took over the casual drinking market almost 100%. Wine only started to make inroads in the '60s and '70s. But cider remain completely forgotten by then.

That is until about 8 years ago, when the "small batch cider" renaissance started in the US, with small startups making cider from apples.

Sweet apples, that is -- because that's all that we have in the US anymore! Yuck!

Cider made from sweet apples is just wrong to a true cider aficionado. So no matter how much effort these America cider microbreweries put into their product, it will never match up to French and British ciders.

In fact, until just a couple years ago, most American cidermakers didn't even know about the existence of bitter apples and didn't know they were doing it fundamentally wrong.

Finally a few people have wised up, and they've started planting bitter apple trees in the US again, but it will still be several years before they are up and producing in sufficient numbers to create enough true cider for the masses.

Until then, we must suffer with an inferior American product! Frowney face!

Posted by: zombie at December 11, 2016 05:11 PM (jBuUi)

278
He gave me his Canadian Mist.

remember CANADA MINTS?

Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at December 11, 2016 05:12 PM (dPSy3)

279 Go S on I-55 from STL for 120 miles. Take exit 99. Make left at first stop light. Go to Sprigg St make right. Left on Bertling. Right into next subdivision. Last house on the right. Serving at 5:30.

Sorry, not gonna make it in time. It the first 1,456 miles between here and STL that are the problem.

But thanks for the invite!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 11, 2016 05:12 PM (IcT7t)

280 >>If you get an elk then I get a matchmakers fee.

>>Which of course is some of that elk.



Well, you have my email!

If I do kill one in the shoulder season, I will send you a London Broil. They are just a tad smaller than blanket.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 05:12 PM (c8Ctg)

281 You know what makes for bad meat?

Stress.

The more stress, the worse the meat.

Posted by: garrett


Would you please tell that to Ernie Anastos? Nothing stresses me out more than seeing him come into the barnyard with that look on his face.

Posted by: the chicken at December 11, 2016 05:12 PM (rH4JY)

282 It wasn't wearing a Yankees cap. Backwards.
Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:37 PM


If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be.

Posted by: Lawrence Peter Berra at December 11, 2016 05:12 PM (DMUuz)

283 Ah, ah, ah, say, ah am most disturbed by the anti-rooster bigotry ah'm seein' in this thread.

Y'all should be ashamed of yourself. Ah am a fine upstanding cock. Jes' ask Miss Prissy if that ain't so.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 11, 2016 05:13 PM (P8951)

284 162 L' Elle, I don't mean to sound heartless, but have you considered . . . eating them?

Okay, that sounds heartless. But I mean, if they are no longer giving eggs, and you hate them, why not? They would be great stewing hens, I'll bet.

Posted by: bluebell
---------------

This is exactly what I was thinking.
Not to be mean, but when a chicken stops laying, it's time to hordesource or ask CBD for a good, easy recipe for coq au vin.

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 05:13 PM (8FCOT)

285 >>cook it down for about 45 minutes


I add a bit of vanilla bean steeped bourbon.

Goes good in oatmeal in the morning.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 05:13 PM (c8Ctg)

286 Ah am a fine upstanding cock.

You've been waiting for years to use that line, haven't you?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 11, 2016 05:14 PM (IcT7t)

287 Your list of great food forgot:

Dungeness crab, cooked within an hour of getting back to the dock
Halibut.
plain whole-wheat or potato bread, still slightly warm from the oven, served with butter
Blackberry jam. Which is ripe berries, sugar, pectin and a touch of lemon juice and nothing more

Runners up is things like cornbread made with buttermilk

Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2016 05:14 PM (typGQ)

288 ooh bourbon.

kid would sleep then, let me tell you.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 05:14 PM (U0lQa)

289 Sorry, not gonna make it in time. It the first 1,456 miles between here and STL that are the problem.



But thanks for the invite!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 11, 2016 05:12 PM

Oh well. Maybe next time you can borrow Ace's time machine.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 11, 2016 05:15 PM (Dhht7)

290 also black raspberry jam and mulberry syrup and indian puddings

not all at once

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 05:16 PM (U0lQa)

291 I always hear stories about these ranches where everyone kills multiple elk eveery year...

Only chance I have ever had to hunt anything like that, rancher's kid jacked a 6x6 right off the tractor 1 1/2 hours before sunup.
The elk all decided to leave the ranch shortly thereafter.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 05:16 PM (c8Ctg)

292 >>> Cider made from sweet apples is just wrong to a true cider aficionado. So no matter how much effort these America cider microbreweries put into their product, it will never match up to French and British ciders.

I'm no aficionado, but Trder Joe's sell something called Henry Hotspur's Hard Pressed which I like a lot. The only other cider I have had is Woodchuck, which I found way too sweet.

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2016 05:17 PM (jw2Xw)

293 The rooster was Bill (he never shut up, crowing even
in the middle of the afternoon). The alpha chicken was Hillary. They
had a falling out once, she wouldn't even look at him and didn't want to
be near him. So I let her out of the pen and she was hanging out with
me. She'd follow me on the bench by the back door when I took a cig
break from gardening.
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 05:10 PM


Wow. That is word-for-word my story, except substitute shopping for gardening.

Posted by: Huma at December 11, 2016 05:18 PM (DMUuz)

294 You wouldn't think you could have a relationship with chickens, but you kind of can.
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016
****
That's too funny, Miley. I have a love-hate relationship with my chickens, mostly hate lately. That rooster made me hate chickens. He was always raping the hens. So much raping. And he was a proud rapist. Just an awful animal. I couldn't even name him hc he was so evil and I didn't want to feel any emotional connection to him. I just called him Mister.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:18 PM (6IPEM)

295 Roosters, like most other male birds, have no penises, and they get along perfectly fine.

We have so much to learn from them.

Posted by: Lana Wachowski at December 11, 2016 05:18 PM (rH4JY)

296 I couldn't even name him hc he was so evil and I didn't want to feel any emotional connection to him. I just called him Mister.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:18 PM (6IPEM)



Cocky bastard probably liked that

Posted by: buzzion at December 11, 2016 05:19 PM (bMG0w)

297 You wouldn't think you could have a relationship with chickens, but you kind of can.


must.resist.bad.joke

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 05:20 PM (0F67M)

298 I am not that stupid about chickens (I really am). I did watch some chickens and a rooster for a couple days while the couple went out of town. This was in Nevada.
The wife told me before they left that the feed was in the barn. The next day I went into the barn looking for the food. Couldn't find it. This goes on for several minutes. In walks one chicken who goes over to a covered barrel that was sitting on a pallet. I lifted the lid and there was the feed. I thought that the chicken was smart for doing that. I was impressed.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 05:20 PM (CFc5L)

299 chickens that got too old to lay eggs would literally be tough old birds. If you raise chickens for meat I'm pretty sure you have to butcher them younger than when they begin laying eggs if you want to be able to roast or fry the chicken vs having to stew it for hours and hours.

Posted by: PaleRider, link to funeral expense fund for SMFH's Carl at December 11, 2016 05:20 PM (Jen0I)

300 weirdflunky at December 11, 2016 05:06 PM

The first casualty flunky would be all those nice open wild spaces we Americans love so much. I was once asked by senior management to engage in an exercise for their edification (actually their amusement I think). I'm an ag economist by training, and they wanted to know the outcome of switching all US chicken (broiler) production to "organic". Ran the numbers over a few days. My best estimate was to plow and place into production (for both feedstuffs and chicken "space") an area the size of West Virginia. That in addition to what land is currently utilized.
Without intensive, modern production- which is an absolute technological miracle btw- we would either starve or have an ecological disaster on our hands.

Posted by: Alamo at December 11, 2016 05:20 PM (aVNi6)

301 Best cheesesteak I ever had was in Colorado Springs. Little place on Nevada Ave. About 3 miles from Mrs. E's parents.

Posted by: Eromero at December 11, 2016 05:20 PM (zLDYs)

302 281 You know what makes for bad meat?
Stress.
The more stress, the worse the meat.
Posted by: garrett
****
This is true. I saw a documentary on the food channel about raising Kobe. They give them beer to drink so they are relaxed and happy. I thought that was interesting.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:21 PM (6IPEM)

303 Must be the winter air. I did poached apples and raisins in Cpt. Morgans dark spiced rum and served over pork chops and mashed sweet potatoes.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 11, 2016 05:21 PM (0PUMp)

304 >> You wouldn't think you could have a relationship with chickens, but you kind of can.


People refuse to recognize the validity of chicken loving.

Posted by: Gonzo at December 11, 2016 05:22 PM (c8Ctg)

305 Beer coasters?

How about the rise of that icon of American ingenuity, the wooden toothpick, all due to one man, Charles Foster.

http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/
strong-me-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-
toothpick-capital-of-the-world

Posted by: american ingenuity at its best at December 11, 2016 05:22 PM (IQI2h)

306 Finally!!


The Pack is back!

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:22 PM (dFi94)

307 finally got the kid to see Santa

waited in the industrial sized line for half hour, cackling mrs Claus hopped up on something illicit is all Hey Hey Hey Santa Woot! Gonna meet The Big Man Himself!

and my kid is already freaked out and shy to begin with, so we get in the tent and he's AHHHH GOTTA GET OUT and so no pictures no nothing

afterwards he's very subdued and says I guess I don't want toys anyway

So its letter writing tonight. poor little boy was torn up.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 05:22 PM (U0lQa)

308 What you people do to me is not considered a relationship!

Posted by: The Chicken at December 11, 2016 05:22 PM (bMG0w)

309 Pompano and champagne, as the great Rocco said.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 11, 2016 05:23 PM (/Qimn)

310
Lessmeat, lessheat.

That's the latest Leftist "cause" to stop global warming AND living healthy AND saving the animals.

All the cool hollywood celerys are jumping on that bandwagon.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 11, 2016 05:23 PM (4iFQH)

311 Posted by: zombie at December 11, 2016 05:11 PM (jBuUi)

Good points. I have really come to like dry hard cider alot, but most American hard ciders are too way too sweet. I dislike most of the nationally marketed stuff.

However, you can find local cider makers who make fine dry ciders.

This is the one I normally buy although it 's a bit pricey:

http://islandorchardcider.com/

I met the lady who runs the place giving out samples at a local liquor store and had a nice chat with her. Her father was from Brittany and she and her husband model their ciders after the ones they drank over there.

The very best dry cider I've had, though, is from New Hampshire (I wish I could remember the name - a friend brought a bottle back for me when she visited her son in Vermont. Farnum something, I think. Bone dry and really delicious with omelets)

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 11, 2016 05:23 PM (P8951)

312 200 I bet whale is delicious.
Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:45 PM (c8Ctg)
*******
Not as good as dolphin.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 11, 2016 05:24 PM (sFenw)

313 So its letter writing tonight. poor little boy was torn up.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 05:22 PM (U0lQa)
=============================

Awww. Some kids just don't like the woop-de-doo thing.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:24 PM (dFi94)

314 I'm no aficionado, but Trder Joe's sell something called Henry Hotspur's Hard Pressed which I like a lot. The only other cider I have had is Woodchuck, which I found way too sweet.
Posted by: fluffy


I've tried Henry Hotspur's and I was surprised that I too liked it. Not bad! HOWEVER, upon close investigation of how it is made -- it's actually more like type of beer make from apples! Which isn't necessarily a bad thing -- but it means that Henry Hotspur's SHOULD be labelled "apple beer" rather than "cider." (They add brewmaster's yeast during fermentation, which isn't done with bitter apples.)

Posted by: zombie at December 11, 2016 05:24 PM (jBuUi)

315 You wouldn't think you could have a relationship with chickens, but you kind of can.
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR
---------------

Et tu, Miley?
Sacre bleu!

Posted by: The Chicken at December 11, 2016 05:24 PM (fVcTE)

316 >>>Please tell me this is on your place, and you are in Montana.





Posted by: garrett<<<

Broadwater County weekend hunt. As far as I'm aware, you need to have a valid license, communicate with local private landowners and you have to sign in/out. It's like a turkey shoot.

I drove to Helena yesterday and saw 200 head of elk grazing off the road in another stubble field near Canyon Ferry. It's going to get cold very soon.

Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2016 05:24 PM (hOptz)

317 I bet whale is delicious.
Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 04:45 PM (c8Ctg)
*******
Not as good as dolphin.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 11, 2016 05:24 PM (sFenw)



Sea Turtle FTW.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 05:25 PM (0F67M)

318 311 was me and not the justly aggrieved rooster.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 11, 2016 05:25 PM (P8951)

319 I recommend the beef. Or the sheep. The goat is very tasty too. Try their fish. The vegetarian offerings are quite tasty as well.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 11, 2016 05:25 PM (sFenw)

320 What you people do to me is not considered a relationship!

Posted by: The Chicken


Nope. It's a job we gotta do.

Posted by: Ernie Anastos at December 11, 2016 05:25 PM (rH4JY)

321

Christmas protip:

I gave a tin of cream filled rolled (into sticks) wafers I got at Costco to some people and they really liked them. You can dip them in coffee, they said.

Creme de Pirouline
Chocolate Hazelnut
only $5.99 for a good size tin

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 11, 2016 05:26 PM (4iFQH)

322 garrett, what do you do with all the stuff you hunt? I mean, I know you eat it, but those are big animals. I would think one antelope/elk/whatever would last a long, long time.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 05:26 PM (sBOL1)

323 I'm not heartless. I can't eat my chickens. I think I'd vomit if I tried to. Plus they're too old. The meat will be no good. I have no problem with hunting but I don't have the stomach do the dressing. It's weird though bc I have no problem cleaning a fish and cutting its head off.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:26 PM (6IPEM)

324 Word is hundreds of antelope on the move in Modoc County.

Posted by: torabora at December 11, 2016 05:27 PM (sFenw)

325 Meat chickens in the US are also almost universally breeds developed just for that purpose. Some of them grow fast enough that they really can't survive anyway if they aren't slaughtered. There's nothing saying you can't raise heirloom breeds for meat, but it isn't commercially viable on a scale that would meet the demand.

Which does get annoying when you actually want a stewing hen, because you're not going to find one at Kroger or Meijer. The Oriental market around here does have them though.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 11, 2016 05:27 PM (8nWyX)

326 >>Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2016 05:24 PM (hOptz)


Thanks for the tip.

I've been wanting to put a Cow in the Freezer for 20 or so years.

Posted by: Gonzo at December 11, 2016 05:27 PM (c8Ctg)

327 314. There's am outfit here in town, the Austin East Ciders, who put out a very nice little line of hard ciders - original, and honey cider. Nothing fancy, but nice.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 11, 2016 05:27 PM (/Qimn)

328
Damn, but you have to quick with the low hanging curveballs around here..

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 05:27 PM (fVcTE)

329


In particular I direct your attention to American beef, which is without peer.


WHAT?!?? Wagyu ISN'T the best? Does this mean that the slight flavor of "dog" isn't desirable?

I'm going to have a little talk with Val-Jar Binks ...

Posted by: Teh Dog-Eater-in-Chief, with less the 40 days left at December 11, 2016 05:28 PM (FlRtG)

330 So its letter writing tonight. poor little boy was torn up.
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 05:22 PM (U0lQa)
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Aw, poor kid. I can relate. I hated crowds even as a kid.

And Santa loves getting letters! Your boy can get more personal in a nice quiet letter-writing session than in that noisy place.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 05:28 PM (EnKk6)

331 323 I'm not heartless. I can't eat my chickens. I think I'd vomit if I tried to. Plus they're too old. The meat will be no good. I have no problem with hunting but I don't have the stomach do the dressing. It's weird though bc I have no problem cleaning a fish and cutting its head off.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:26 PM (6IPEM)


That's cause fish isn't meat.

Posted by: buzzion - Catholic at December 11, 2016 05:28 PM (bMG0w)

332 Creme de Pirouline
Chocolate Hazelnut
only $5.99 for a good size tin
Posted by: Soothsayer at December
***
That's funny. I just sent out 4 of those as gifts to friends. I love those. They were very appreciative. A good gift.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:28 PM (6IPEM)

333 Home raised chicken eggs cost about $1 each. They're pets you know. They have names..Henny, Penny etc.

Posted by: torabora at December 11, 2016 05:29 PM (sFenw)

334 I'm home, I'm tired, I'm hungry, I'm alone, and I am a Jet's Fan? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2016 05:29 PM (SjImc)

335 I've been wanting to put a Cow in the Freezer for 20 or so years.


This is a dirty euphemism, isn't it?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 05:29 PM (0F67M)

336 I can live with apple beer.

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2016 05:29 PM (jw2Xw)

337 Who's going chicken hunting?
We're going chicken hunting!

Posted by: Insane Clown Posse at December 11, 2016 05:29 PM (rH4JY)

338 I've been wanting to put a Cow in the Freezer for 20 or so years.

Posted by: Gonzo at December 11, 2016 05:27 PM (c8Ctg)
==================================

Hillary Clinton will never be President.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:30 PM (dFi94)

339 335 I've been wanting to put a Cow in the Freezer for 20 or so years.


This is a dirty euphemism, isn't it?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 05:29 PM (0F67M)



Banging a fat girl in Toronto?

Posted by: buzzion at December 11, 2016 05:30 PM (bMG0w)

340 Chocolate is good too.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 11, 2016 05:31 PM (sFenw)

341 I'm home, I'm tired, I'm hungry, I'm alone, and I am a Jet's Fan? Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2016 05:29 PM (SjImc)
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You forgot to mention the Army-Navy game.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 05:31 PM (sBOL1)

342 wait - chicken hunting?

is that like, spotlight at the roadside, waiting for them to cross?

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 05:32 PM (U0lQa)

343 Chocolate is good too.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 11, 2016 05:31 PM (sFenw)



While he's at it, may I direct your attention to the lovely Ottoman over there.

The settee is also quite fetching.

Posted by: The Couch at December 11, 2016 05:33 PM (mgbwf)

344 341 I'm home, I'm tired, I'm hungry, I'm alone, and I am a Jet's Fan? Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2016 05:29 PM (SjImc)
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You forgot to mention the Army-Navy game.
Posted by: bluebell
---------------

And the fact that he often has to go to Ports mouth for work.
(That alone is pretty sad)

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 05:33 PM (fVcTE)

345 I had chickens in Sweden. The rooster was Bill (he never shut up, crowing even in the middle of the afternoon). The alpha chicken was Hillary. They had a falling out once, she wouldn't even look at him and didn't want to be near him."

The chickens fit their names perfectly, didn't they?

All you would have needed was a weasel named Sid Blumenthal.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 11, 2016 05:33 PM (P8951)

346 fininally got the kid to see Santaafterwards he's very subdued and says I guess I don't want toys anyway

So its letter writing tonight. poor little boy was torn up.
Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 05:22
****
Awww, Bigby, I'm sad for him. Poor kid. Give him a big hug for me. He sounds so sweet.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:33 PM (6IPEM)

347 Who lost the Bears game? I got held hostage by a phone call.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:33 PM (dFi94)

348 why did the chicken cross the road?

bambambampewpew

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 05:33 PM (U0lQa)

349 You should try our chicken pizza.

Posted by: Comet Pizza at December 11, 2016 05:34 PM (sFenw)

350 why did the chicken cross the road?


To prove to the opossum that it can be done.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 05:34 PM (mgbwf)

351 The coaster-flip bar trick is a staple of mine. if done 'properly', it's a half-flip, done as quickly as possible, in one motion. in my prime, i could to two coasters, one each hand (or a deck of cards), without looking at them on the bar. as with most bar tricks, it's done more skillfully as the pints are consumed. science, ya'll.

Posted by: deplorablegoatsxchange at December 11, 2016 05:35 PM (gOzTJ)

352 You forgot to mention the Army-Navy game.
Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 05:31 PM (sBOL1)


Well have friends in the Army and my Dad was 25 Army Vet..so once in 15 years I can live with.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2016 05:35 PM (SjImc)

353 hogmartin at December 11, 2016 05:27 PM

Actually one "breed", a Cornish-Rock hybrid, with multiple phenotypes. Modern broilers easily can reach 10-12 pounds, and do. These birds are utilized in the debone / further process market.
The reason you don't see them in the store is lack of demand-- you know, that's how the free market works. Convince 20-30,000 friends to clamor for stew or roaster birds at a given weight, and you'll have your wish. And they will be cheap too.

Posted by: Alamo at December 11, 2016 05:36 PM (aVNi6)

354 I'm not heartless. I can't eat my chickens. I think I'd vomit if I tried to. Plus they're too old. The meat will be no good.

I understand the practical aspect, that the meat wouldn't be good. But it seems that despite your protestations, you still have some affection for the rooster. I don't understand that. If I kept some obnoxious, aggressive bird and it one day dropped dead, without me having to do anything, I'd pluck that sucker and stew it just for the experience. I wouldn't feel any connection to it, especially if it was nasty.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 05:36 PM (rH4JY)

355 So its letter writing tonight. poor little boy was torn up.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 05:22
==================


Tell him Santa gets mixed up when so many boys and girls ask him for toys all at the same time. He remembers much better if it's written down in a letter. And he likes to keep all the letters in his special letter drawer.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:37 PM (dFi94)

356 Some jackass should write a dissertation pushing back against the stupid animal rules...

Due out this spring, every moron in attendance gets a free PowerPoint presentation.

Posted by: Tsrblke at December 11, 2016 05:37 PM (dzmBR)

357 If I do kill one in the shoulder season, I will send you a London Broil.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 05:12 PM (c8Ctg)

You are a gentleman and a scholar!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 05:37 PM (42Mgr)

358

Israels most advanced weaponry, two F-35 stealth fighter jets, are set to touch down at Nevatim Air Force Base near Beersheba for the first time on Monday afternoon.

Expected at the ceremony to welcome the jets to Israel will be President Reuven Rivlin, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman, IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Gadi Eisenkot, OC Air Force Maj.-Gen. Amir Eshel and US Secretary of Defense Ash Carter.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2016 05:37 PM (SjImc)

359 NGU - Bibi's going to be on 60 minutes tonight talking about Trump. I assume other things as well.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:39 PM (dFi94)

360 Chocolate is good too.

Posted by: The Chicken


Each night when the day is through,
I don't ask much, I just want ... you.

Posted by: Ozzie Anastos at December 11, 2016 05:39 PM (rH4JY)

361 i could to two coasters, one each hand (or a deck of
cards), without looking at them on the bar.

Posted by: deplorablegoatsxchange at December 11, 2016 05:35 PM (gOzTJ)

Yup! After several drinks it becomes more of a Zen thing than an actual success thing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 05:39 PM (42Mgr)

362 *sings*

I'm dreaming of a White Chili....


So, last night I made a pot of my world famous White Chili, a dish so stupidly easy to make, completely fool-proof, and delicious that anyone can make it and be thought to be a genius chef.

And here's the recipe:


naturalfake's White Chili

2 largish onions
1 orange bell pepper
6 cloves of garlic
3-4 lbs of skinless, boneless thigh meat cut into roughly inch pieces
1 can of cannellini beans
1 can of great northern beans
1 can of golden hominy
3/4-1 16 oz jar of Frontera Salsa Tomatillo
2 can of El Paso Chopped Green Chilies
1 tbs cumin
1.5 tsp ground coriander
1 tsp ancho chili powder
1 tsp white pepper
Salt and pepper to taste

Saute onions, garlic, and bell pepper till just starting to go soft in oven proof pot.

Add everything else (use liquid in bean cans, dump out liquid in hominy can).

Stir, at this point the chili will be somewhat thick. Don't worry water will come out of the ingredients as they cook and leave you with a consistency like a thick soup.
If you're worried or it's too thick at the start use a small amount of chicken stock to the consistency you like.

Cook at 220 for 4-5 hours, raise temp to 230-240 for the last hour. (you can cook longer if you like)

Should work fine in a slow cooker.

Serve with sour cream and fresh chopped cilantro.



An easy and filling dinner with a salad for those busy holiday days.


You're welcome.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2016 05:39 PM (9q7Dl)

363 Posted by: zombie at December 11, 2016 05:11 PM (jBuUi)

Bridging two threads, One of the old mysteries I listened to a while ago was set in New York state at Prohibition time and apparently that area was a *huge* cider-making area at the time.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 11, 2016 05:40 PM (sEDyY)

364 NGU - Bibi's going to be on 60 minutes tonight talking about Trump. I assume other things as well.
Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:39 PM (dFi94)

Thanks I did not know that. I am sure since Fredo has a month and 1/2 left to hurt Israel, Netanyahu will be "diplomatic"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2016 05:40 PM (SjImc)

365 so did ya see the video of trump of trump yesterday at a rally in michigan? to the chants of "lock her up" he said "that was before the election. now we don't care," waving his hand dismissively. not that i'm a vindictive soul, but f* him.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 11, 2016 05:41 PM (WTSFk)

366 As a chicken hawk, I approve this thread.

Posted by: Denny Hastert at December 11, 2016 05:42 PM (rH4JY)

367 Excellent thread...I'd like to add Cajun to the list of American food that is unparalleled...gumbo, etouffee, etc.

Southern cuisine too.

And competitive eating. Nobody thought to do that until we conquered large scale food production.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 11, 2016 05:42 PM (n3MnG)

368 Why is kapershit still vertical? and fuck his parents also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2016 05:42 PM (SjImc)

369 I understand the practical aspect, that the meat wouldn't be good. But it seems that despite your protestations, you still have some affection for the rooster. I don't understand that. If I kept some obnoxious, aggressive bird and it one day dropped dead, without me having to do anything, I'd pluck that sucker and stew it just for the experience. I wouldn't feel any connection to it, especially if it was nasty.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 05:36
****
I was trying to be nice. And you can't just let me, can you?
jk
I didn't want to mention this bc it sounds wrong, but when I found him dead, he was naked. He had beautiful feathers, gorgeous coloring, especially his tail feathers. The hens plucked all his feathers out. I was kind of happy that they got some revenge for all the raping they had to endure bc of his evil nature.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:43 PM (6IPEM)

370 Applejack - 'Merican calvados - is quite nice. Oldtimers would take hard cider and freeze-concentrate it, but distilling always gave better, cleaner results.

Hell of a hangover, either way.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 11, 2016 05:44 PM (/Qimn)

371 The very best dry cider I've had, though, is from New Hampshire (I wish I could remember the name - a friend brought a bottle back for me when she visited her son in Vermont. Farnum something, I think. Bone dry and really delicious with omelets)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn


That's probably because the ONLY cidermakers in the entire United States that still have access to some surviving bitter apple trees are the ones in Vermont and New Hampshire! I'd bet that the one you like so much is made from them (at least partly). People discovered that there were a few old bitter apple trees that "rewilded" and survived for a century or more, growing huge. Now they are being harvested again.

Posted by: zombie at December 11, 2016 05:44 PM (jBuUi)

372 Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 11, 2016 05:23 PM (P8951)


http://www.povertylaneorchards.com/farnum-hill-ciders/where-to-buy/

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2016 05:44 PM (42Mgr)

373 The refs were looking for facetime during the Bears game...real shit calls at the end.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 11, 2016 05:44 PM (n3MnG)

374 I didn't want to mention this bc it sounds wrong, but when I found him dead, he was naked. He had beautiful feathers, gorgeous coloring, especially his tail feathers. The hens plucked all his feathers out. I was kind of happy that they got some revenge for all the raping they had to endure bc of his evil nature.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:43 PM (6IPEM)

+++

This story gets more and more bizarre. The hens revenge.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 05:46 PM (CFc5L)

375 Interception! HA!

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:46 PM (dFi94)

376 Where all da white carrots at?

Posted by: Blazing SockPuppets at December 11, 2016 05:46 PM (8J/Te)

377 http://islandorchardcider.com/

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn


If you look at their Web site, they reveal that they are indeed amongst the new breed of cideries that have planted biter apple trees! So no wonder it's good!

You have keen cider acumen!

Posted by: zombie at December 11, 2016 05:46 PM (jBuUi)

378 That sounds pretty darned tasty, naturalfake. Thanks. *saved*
I love a good white chilli.

BUT, you forgot to list how many carrots...

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 05:46 PM (fVcTE)

379
We have a set of six coasters made of a heavy black stone of some sort. These, as well as six wooden napkin rings that stack on a post, are our 14-month old grandson's favorite toys when he is visiting us, bar none. I set a coaster to spinning on edge and he is fascinated to watch and listen to it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at December 11, 2016 05:47 PM (BK3ZS)

380 f youve ever craved Chipotle while out in the field, 2017 might be your year.

A new Meal, Ready-to-Eat set to debut in 2017 will feature a chicken burrito bowl entree, according to officials with the Army's Combat Feeding Directorate.

The mix of chicken, rice, chili peppers and beans will be in a flexible pouch similar to a commercial tuna pouch, said Julie Smith, senior food technologist at CFD, part of the Natick Soldier, Research, Development and Engineering Center in Massachusetts.

The burrito bowl MRE will also have a trail mix that contains pretzels, peanuts, cashews and almonds. Smith said the mix offers a 3-to-1 carb-to-protein ratio that will aid in the warfighters recovery. A teriyaki meat stick will be included as an alternative to beef jerky.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2016 05:47 PM (SjImc)

381 Grew up many years ago on a small farm. Chickens were our major source of protein. Each spring we'd get 125 chicks from the local farm bureau co-op, straight run which meant about 50-50 male/female ratio. By summer time they would be getting big enough for frying, each week about 25 of them would be harvested, dressed out, and frozen. 25 of the pullets would be kept to become egg-layers. When they were producing, the previous years layers would then become roasting chickens. And repeat. So the useful lifespan of these particular chickens (Plymouth White Rocks) was about 2 years. They would usually produce 12-18 eggs daily but production tends to drop off after 2 years.

Posted by: Tireddoc at December 11, 2016 05:47 PM (69DCz)

382 172 Related to the one little town that make all the coasters:

Almost all dominos are made in Waco, Texas.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at December 11, 2016 04:39 PM (JQyHQ)



Amazing, isn't it, how they still manage to get 'em from Waco to your front door, in 30 minutes or less!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 11, 2016 05:47 PM (v5iqM)

383 Creme de Pirouline
Chocolate Hazelnut
only $5.99 for a good size tin

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 11, 2016 05:26 PM (4iFQH)

Love those. I like to peel them instead of dunk them in coffee though. Yes I am a 42 year old woman who plays with her food.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 11, 2016 05:48 PM (sEDyY)

384 I'm frying a couple of pork chops with sage and proscuitto for dinner. One sage leaf pressed into each side of the two chops, topped with proscuitto.

Serving potato gratin and a "wedge salad" that I do with hearts of romaine, a buttermilk based blue cheese dressing, and halved grape tomatoes. I discovered I was out of bacon, so I'm going to gently fly a piece of proscuitto to break up and serve over the salads.

Gotta get started.

This is a "celebratory" dinner, because I'm finished with Christmas shopping! Woot!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 11, 2016 05:49 PM (PY9jH)

385
This story gets more and more bizarre. The hens revenge

+++

i know. Barnyard Gothic

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 05:49 PM (U0lQa)

386 I was kind of happy that they got some revenge for all the raping they had to endure bc of his evil nature.

Posted by: L, Elle


If he's that bad, I'd just want to bury him too and forget about it. I get it now.

Posted by: Denny Hastert at December 11, 2016 05:50 PM (rH4JY)

387 pedo sock off.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 05:50 PM (rH4JY)

388 >>> http://www.povertylaneorchards.com/farnum-hill-ciders/where-to-buy/

Interesting that you can buy at some state liquor stores in NH, but not all.

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2016 05:51 PM (jw2Xw)

389 bizarre. The hens revenge.
Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 05:46 PM
****
I know. It's been a ride. A bad kind of adventure.
True thing, this happened: My first hen to die was pecked to death by the other hens. They treated her like a loser chicken and ostracized her. She was always the last one out of the coop and would stay back with me so they wouldn't hurt her. She was my favorite. I came to the blog bc I was so sad about her dying. Of course, everyone had nothing but chicken jokes and cheered me up.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:52 PM (6IPEM)

390 That sounds good, Jane D'oh. I'm stuck by myself in a snowstorm so I'm having crackers with liver sausage.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:52 PM (dFi94)

391 That sounds good, Jane D'oh. I'm stuck by myself in a snowstorm so I'm having crackers with liver sausage.


Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:52 PM (dFi94)


Hold a glass up to your USB port and I'll share a nice red wine with you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 11, 2016 05:53 PM (PY9jH)

392 I like the fact that Mr. Orange still casually refers to journalists as "you people."

Wanna know who sucks more than Camille Crimson? The WSJ! The NYT & WaPo are no worse & no better.

Posted by: mnw at December 11, 2016 05:55 PM (HWisp)

393 Hold a glass up to your USB port and I'll share a nice red wine with you.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 11, 2016 05:53 PM (PY9jH)
=================================

You don't have to ask me twice. Clink.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:55 PM (dFi94)

394 No chicken is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a coop of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each chicken's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in aves.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 11, 2016 05:55 PM (sFenw)

395 388 >>> http://www.povertylaneorchards.com/farnum-hill-ciders/where-to-buy/

Interesting that you can buy at some state liquor stores in NH, but not all.
Posted by: fluffy


Bingo! At this Web page on their site, they reveal they they do indeed use bitter apples:

http://www.povertylaneorchards.com/farnum-hill-ciders/farnum-hill-cider-basics/

"Apple Varieties
Bittersweets, containing high tannins and sugars, provide structure, and a certain breadth of aromas and flavors as well as range of sensation, deeper fruit and some of the high tropical perfumes. Varieties such as Dabinett, Yarlington Mill, Chisel Jersey, Ellis Bitter, Ashton Bitter, Somerset Redstreak, Medaille d'Or, odds and ends of others.

Bittersharps, containing high tannins and acid, contribute considerable flavor as above, but also critically important acid for clean fermentation and stimulating taste. Varieties include Kingston Black, Stoke Red, Foxwhelp."

Posted by: zombie at December 11, 2016 05:56 PM (jBuUi)

396 What the animal sjw's forget, or never knew, is that very very very few wild animals die of old age. When they start slowing down, they get savagely eaten. Or if they are the eaters, they starve to death.

Posted by: McGeorge at December 11, 2016 05:56 PM (H4fR0)

397 I know. It's been a ride. A bad kind of adventure.
True thing, this happened: My first hen to die was pecked to death by the other hens. They treated her like a loser chicken and ostracized her. She was always the last one out of the coop and would stay back with me so they wouldn't hurt her. She was my favorite. I came to the blog bc I was so sad about her dying. Of course, everyone had nothing but chicken jokes and cheered me up.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:52 PM (6IPEM)

+++

It is hard to watch and not get involved with their interactions even in this poultry society. I've been victim to this emotional distress with aquarium fish that my kids had. So glad when that was over and the tanks were gone.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 05:56 PM (CFc5L)

398 390. Braunschweiger?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 11, 2016 05:57 PM (/Qimn)

399 They would usually produce 12-18 eggs daily but production tends to drop off after 2 year
********

We call that 'tenure'.

Posted by: Teacher's Union at December 11, 2016 05:57 PM (sFenw)

400 Don't know if anyone mentioned it, but Aldi sells eggs for .79 every day. That's one dozen, large. There have been times I've wandered in and found them on sale (unadvertised) for .59! And this weekend, Kroger had a 3-day sale with 18 large eggs for .99.

Let the hipsters pay for their designer eggs. Those of us on low-carb can pay big bucks to eat this way (have you priced almond flour lately?). Cheap eggs are a blessing for us!

Posted by: SandyCheeks (formerly RushBabe) at December 11, 2016 05:58 PM (joFoi)

401 Thanks for listening to my chicken saga, you guys. I didn't intend to hijack the food thread, but it's been cathartic for me. A lot of pent up frustration bc of the stupid horrible chickens that needed to be expressed, I guess. Thanks for letting me vent.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:58 PM (6IPEM)

402 Braunschweiger?
=========


Well if you want to be all fancy about it.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:58 PM (dFi94)

403 >>I've been victim to this emotional distress with aquarium fish that my kids had.


I once watched an ex-girlfriend discipline a Gold Gourami for being an all around douche to her other fish.

It was hysterical. Cute little German girl in panties with a tiny net and a bad attitude.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 05:59 PM (c8Ctg)

404 L,Elle - the Horde is at its best in such situations.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 05:59 PM (dFi94)

405 Saw a news report about a tagged albatross on Midway island. It was tagged about 1950.
Damn thing is at least 66 years old and is pictured sitting on an egg.

Posted by: navybrat at December 11, 2016 05:59 PM (w7KSn)

406 Wow. That is word-for-word my story, except substitute shopping for gardening.




Posted by: Huma at December 11, 2016 05:18 PM (DMUuz)

Huma, my Hillary was sooo much more human than yours.
------------
That's too funny, Miley. I have a love-hate relationship with my
chickens, mostly hate lately. That rooster made me hate chickens. He
was always raping the hens. So much raping. And he was a proud rapist.
Just an awful animal. I couldn't even name him hc he was so evil and
I didn't want to feel any emotional connection to him. I just called
him Mister.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 05:18 PM (6IPEM)

Roosters are kind of awful. I only had 3 hens and it was rough on them. We gave him to a friend who had about a dozen, and everyone was happier. Especially my neighbor. She'd ride her horse for miles and could still hear him.
So, peace settled on the neighborhood.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 06:00 PM (tHwdc)

407 ALBATROSS!


Get yer ALBATROSS, here!

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 06:01 PM (c8Ctg)

408 Damn thing is at least 66 years old and is pictured sitting on an egg.
Posted by: navybrat at December 11, 2016 05:59 PM (w7KSn)
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Wow. Better it than me.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 06:01 PM (sBOL1)

409 402. Heh....my angel calls it pate, bless her heart, and loves the stuff.....

Of course, she eats a lot of stuff that I really can't understand and don't want to. I just nod and eat.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 11, 2016 06:01 PM (/Qimn)

410 I love a good braunschweiger. With thinly sliced onion & a good mustard.
You can serve it on rye toast points if you want to get all hoity-toity.

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:01 PM (fVcTE)

411 I have no idea what the Dance Of Seduction should look like with chickens.

I know that with orangutans it's pretty much "Mister Orangutan want, ooga booga", like you describe. Bonobos are more equal.

With birds, the most romantic would be the albatross:
http://tinyurl.com/j46sk9h

so saying to your significant-other, "you're an albatross to me", might actually be a compliment, but you have to marry an ornithologist for that.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2016 06:02 PM (6FqZa)

412 garrett, did you see my hunting question to you above? I genuinely am curious if you can eat all that stuff you hunt, and if not, what you do with it.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 06:02 PM (sBOL1)

413 that's how chickens are though. take out the bottom of the pecking order and they'll just find the new one

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 06:02 PM (U0lQa)

414 I like Steven Rinella's show on Netflix , "Meateater", not the best title but ,,. He's a great ambassador for hunting and game cookery . Dude will eat anything . Pretty skilled outdoorsman too .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 11, 2016 06:02 PM (JsMw3)

415 Posted by: zombie at December 11, 2016 05:46 PM (jBuUi)

The owner of Island Orchard cider mentioned to me that limestone soils - common in New England- are the best for growing bitter cider apples. The soil and climate of Door County WI is very similiar to New England; in fact the peninsula reminds me of Cape Cod (rocky and with picturesque and overpriced little towns). In other places, with other soils, they just won't thrive in the same way.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 11, 2016 06:02 PM (P8951)

416 Every can of Pedigree chopped chicken dog food is some old rooster or hen. Juno would love a nice boiled chicken and rice dinner.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 11, 2016 06:03 PM (0PUMp)

417 I see the 2 traitorous assholes The Senile old Bastard from AZ and Miss Lindsey are siding with the Dems in the Senate already. Assholes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2016 06:03 PM (SjImc)

418 I love a good braunschweiger.

It's twoo!

Posted by: lili von schtupp at December 11, 2016 06:03 PM (6FqZa)

419 Throw some anchovies in the basil buttermilk dressing recipe, and you have a Green Goddess dressing.

Posted by: no good deed at December 11, 2016 06:04 PM (hJamr)

420 The company produces 75 percent of the world's beer coasters


Nope. Mine came from Angeles City, Philippines. What a place!!

Posted by: Bill R. at December 11, 2016 06:04 PM (jKUeC)

421 It is hard to watch and not get involved with their interactions even in this poultry society. I've been victim to this emotional distress with aquarium fish that my kids had. So glad when that was over and the tanks were gone.
Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 05:56 PM
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We must have been separated at birth! I have a stupid fish too. I won three at the county fair. Two died within a week and then I have this last stubborn one that has some supernatural will to live. I just bought a nice aquarium for him and a pump and bought him 4 friends to hang out with so he isn't lonely. I can already tell that this will wind up being like the chickens.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:04 PM (6IPEM)

422 >>Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 06:02 PM (sBOL1)


Oh, I won't kill something I don't want to eat.

Like Bear. They are just plain shit to eat. I don't care what anybod tells you. Cooks up like bad pork.

or, Bighorn Sheep and Mountain Goat. Would absolutely love that kind of hunt. But, the meat is for shit. I have seen dogs refuse to eat the stuff. Dogs.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 06:05 PM (c8Ctg)

423 I don't remember which moron posted the story about the couple that went on vacation and left their coop chickens in the care of a brother in law.
Anyway, the chickens were picking on another chicken that was sick, so the BIL took it to the vet, where he spent several hundred dollars to get the vet to nurse it back to health.
He puts it back in the coop with the other chickens, they peck it to death...

Posted by: navybrat at December 11, 2016 06:05 PM (w7KSn)

424 >>Pretty skilled outdoorsman too .


He's an ok dude, too. Met him years ago when he was working on his first book.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 06:06 PM (c8Ctg)

425 PiL. Albatross

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CEToKGfjlmM

A cheer song

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2016 06:06 PM (jw2Xw)

426 Oh, I figured that, garrett. But I'm wondering how long, say, one antelope would last you. I would think a long, long time.

And an elk would be even longer. Like years, I would think, unless you eat it three times a day every day. But even then.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 06:07 PM (sBOL1)

427 403 >>I've been victim to this emotional distress with aquarium fish that my kids had.


I once watched an ex-girlfriend discipline a Gold Gourami for being an all around douche to her other fish.

It was hysterical. Cute little German girl in panties with a tiny net and a bad attitude.
Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 05:59 PM (c8Ctg)

++++

I know it sounds dumber than a libtard but it happens.
You watch the goings on and you want to step in and do something. It is laughable, I realize this.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 06:07 PM (CFc5L)

428 Intercepted again! HA !!!


I do kind of feel bad for Russel Wilson tho. I like him. Still. he's not a Packer, so HA!!

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:08 PM (dFi94)

429 I named the fish Olive for some reason. I think I had too many martinis that night.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:08 PM (6IPEM)

430 Roosters are aggressive and mean as shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 06:08 PM (0mRoj)

431 Cheery song. I blame autocucumber.

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2016 06:09 PM (jw2Xw)

432 We must have been separated at birth! I have a stupid fish too. I won three at the county fair. Two died within a week and then I have this last stubborn one that has some supernatural will to live. I just bought a nice aquarium for him and a pump and bought him 4 friends to hang out with so he isn't lonely. I can already tell that this will wind up being like the chickens.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:04 PM (6IPEM)

LOL!

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 06:09 PM (CFc5L)

433 >>But I'm wondering how long, say, one antelope would last you. I would think a long, long time.


If I am careful with my shots, I get about 40 lbs of meat off an antelope.

Anywhere from 70-110lbs off a deer depending on size.

Cow Elk will put 200-250 lbs, maybe? in the Bin.

I usually eat 2-3 Deer and 2-3 Antelope a year.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 06:09 PM (c8Ctg)

434 Yeah garrett , I always thought he seemed a good chap . When he hunts with Joe Rogan , I swear they're all getting baked after the hunt .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 11, 2016 06:09 PM (JsMw3)

435 My old boss shot a bear once. They were eating that thing forever.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:09 PM (dFi94)

436 414 I like Steven Rinella's show on Netflix , "Meateater", not the best title but ,,. He's a great ambassador for hunting and game cookery . Dude will eat anything . Pretty skilled outdoorsman too .
Posted by: awkward davies at December 11, 2016 06:02 PM (JsMw3)

I like him too, but several years ago, he made a mistake that cost him dearly. He ate bear meat that was medium rare and got trichinosis (it was my parent's generation's fear of trichinosis that had them cooking all meats to death. I actually didn't like steak when I was a kid because my mom always cooked it well done. It wasn't until I was in my early 20's and had a medium rare steak in a restaurant that I realized how glorious steak was. However, it's still pretty easy to get from certain game animals, including bear and boar meat.)

Apparently your body has a delayed reaction to the parasite. He didn't start feeling bad until weeks after the hunt. Then he got very very sick and stayed sick for a long time.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 11, 2016 06:10 PM (P8951)

437 I actually want the fish to thrive and do well so I can dump them in my empty koi pond. I accidentally killed all my original koi bc I stupidly tried to improve the pond and they didn't survive the remodel.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:12 PM (6IPEM)

438 Okay, some pretty good cooks here I guess.
You're making a sauce that is Gallo hearty burgundy wine that has had skillet browned dove breasts baked in it and will have sour cream added after the dove have been removed.
What spices are you going to add to the sauce?
The meat will be knocked off the bones onto a plate of noodles and the sauce poured over all.

Posted by: teej at December 11, 2016 06:12 PM (gJ3Vg)

439 They were eating that [bear] forever.

You don't even have to kill it for that!

Posted by: leonardo dicaprio at December 11, 2016 06:12 PM (6FqZa)

440 Last fall WeaselCat v2 caught a tiny baby mouse and brought it to us alive, so we put it in a box. It was very small so I didn't feel right putting it outside where it would surely die so I went to the pet store and bought about $40 worth of mouse bedding and mouse toys and a little wheel and mouse food and mouse treats. Even named the little fella Mr. Squeakers.
He was happier than shit in his new little world when we went to sleep, and deader than a door nail the next morning.

Posted by: Weasel at December 11, 2016 06:13 PM (Sfs6o)

441 Thanks, garrett. That's a lot of meat. Must be good for GAINZZZ.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 06:14 PM (sBOL1)

442 >>You wouldn't think you could have a relationship with chickens, but you kind of can.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR



You guys got a lot of mileage out of this, and I never saw it coming.

Not often that I underestimate the Horde, but all y'all got me this time!

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 06:14 PM (tHwdc)

443 Posted by: Weasel at December 11, 2016 06:13 PM (Sfs6o)

Wow.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 06:14 PM (CFc5L)

444 >>What spices are you going to add to the sauce?


At a min. Thyme, Salt and Ground pepper.

Herb d'Provence on the other end of the spectrum.

I'd say Bay...but I only like really old really dry bay leaves.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 06:14 PM (c8Ctg)

445 Don't look at me, teej. I just realized the other day that we don't have salt or pepper in the house.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:15 PM (dFi94)

446 Here in the USA, eggs in stores are always refrigerated. When I first went to Korea in 1990, I found that eggs usually sit outside the store, stacked about 10 feet high in the sun. At first I was skeptical of eating them. After living on the economy away from the base, I tried them. In a total time of almost 7 years in country, I never saw a rotten egg.

So, are American chickens so special that their eggs have to be chilled for the consumer?

Posted by: Bill R. at December 11, 2016 06:15 PM (jKUeC)

447 He was happier than shit in his new little world when we went to sleep, and deader than a door nail the next morning.
Posted by: Weasel at December 11, 2016 06:13 PM (Sfs6o)
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Oh, Weasel! That made me laugh. I'm a bad person. We hunted a renegade mouse in our house for a few weeks this summer. The blankety-blank thing was so small it kept eating the peanut butter off the traps. Finally my husband got one of those horrible glue traps, and that got him. I couldn't look.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 06:15 PM (sBOL1)

448 teej, I was going to say Bay leaves and thyme too. S&P of course

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:16 PM (6IPEM)

449 Little known factoid - chickens are cannibals and will eat eggs.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 11, 2016 06:16 PM (P/kVC)

450 Anyway, the chickens were picking on another chicken
that was sick, so the BIL took it to the vet, where he spent several
hundred dollars to get the vet to nurse it back to health.

He puts it back in the coop with the other chickens, they peck it to death...

Posted by: navybrat at December 11, 2016 06:05 PM (w7KSn)

That's the hardest part of dealing with chickens, but there's no point in trying to interfere with nature. My ex brought Bill the rooster into the house after he and Hillary got into a nasty tussle (he was bleeding).

I'll just say, don't do it.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 06:16 PM (tHwdc)

451 It's been snowing since yesterday here. We have about ten inches on the ground and it's still coming down. I froze the turkey carcass fro TG and now have a large pot of turkey soup simmering. Perfect for a day like today.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 11, 2016 06:16 PM (kTF2Z)

452 Wife tells the story when she was a kid her dad had chickens, she had one as a pet and would sleep inside her room.

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2016 06:17 PM (5sOEp)

453 Russel Wilson does a great Jay Cutler immitation.

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 06:17 PM (c8Ctg)

454 O my gosh Packers intercepted the ball again. What is that - 8 times?

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:18 PM (dFi94)

455 Another thing about Rinella - the guy lives in Brooklyn and he tells a story about trapping squirrels on the fire escape of his apartment and cooking them. I don't have much of a desire to eat squirrel, but I would really be leery of eating New York City tree rats.

I imagine he can afford a bigger place now because I kept wondering how the hell you can store the meat from an elk or a moose in a NY apartment. You'd need a huge freezer for that.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 11, 2016 06:18 PM (P8951)

456 Little known factoid - chickens are cannibals and will eat eggs.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 11, 2016 06:16 PM (P/kVC)

Put marble eggs in their nesting area. That'll break them of the habit.

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 06:18 PM (tHwdc)

457 Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:18 PM (dFi94)

Russell's not having a good day.

I'm surprised there is no snow on the field. It's been coming down here all day.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 11, 2016 06:19 PM (P8951)

458 So, are American chickens so special that their eggs have to be chilled for the consumer?
Posted by: Bill R. at December 11, 2016 06:15 PM (jKUeC)

+++
Probably not. Let's ask our resident egg ranchers here.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 11, 2016 06:19 PM (CFc5L)

459 Been to Natick, where they test Army food. Pretty cool place, in fact. I was there to look at boots they were testing, and some guy in a lab coat with a clipboard came into our lab, and put a big food tin of *something* in front of us and asked us to taste it and comment.

Posted by: deplorablegoatsxchange at December 11, 2016 06:19 PM (gOzTJ)

460 So, are American chickens so special that their eggs have to be chilled for the consumer?
Posted by: Bill R. at December 11, 2016 06:15 PM (jKUeC)


Fresh eggs have a 'bloom' on them that kind of seals up the pores in the shell. US eggs are washed, and they no longer have that protection, so they're refrigerated. Unwashed eggs kept outside the refrigerator isn't uncommon in Europe either.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 11, 2016 06:19 PM (8nWyX)

461 Duke, that sounds super yummy. It's soup weather here also. It's 27 degrees outside. I think I'll make soup for dinner. Crab bisque except I have no crab on hand. I think I have all the ingredients to make a chicken noodle soup.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:19 PM (6IPEM)

462 I think I have all the ingredients to make a chicken noodle soup.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:19 PM (6IPEM)
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Well, we know you have one of the ingredients, anyway . . . .

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 06:20 PM (sBOL1)

463 He puts it back in the coop with the other chickens, they peck it to death...

Posted by: navybrat


Nothing wrong with that. Democracy in action.

Posted by: Democrat Chicken at December 11, 2016 06:20 PM (rH4JY)

464 I man, I just got a baked sweet potato out of the oven, put in a few spoonsful of coconut/butter mixture, and it's heaven.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 06:20 PM (EnKk6)

465 Been to Natick, where they test Army food. Pretty cool place, in fact. I was there to look at boots they were testing, and some guy in a lab coat with a clipboard came into our lab, and put a big food tin of *something* in front of us and asked us to taste it and comment.
Posted by: deplorablegoatsxchange at December 11, 2016 06:19 PM (gOzTJ)

How'd it taste?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2016 06:20 PM (SjImc)

466 It's been snowing since yesterday here. We have
about ten inches on the ground and it's still coming down.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 11, 2016 06:16 PM (kTF2Z)
=========================

Snow started here about 5 yesterday afternoon, and it's still coming down. They say it should stop around 10 pm. I don't know how many inches we'll end up with.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:20 PM (dFi94)

467 >> I think I have all the ingredients to make a chicken noodle soup.


You have a Chicken named 'Noodles'?

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 06:21 PM (c8Ctg)

468 Don't know if I will get this exactly right but Russians take eggs, bury them in lye in a long time after dig them up and eat them. Supposedly the most foul-smelling thing you can eat.

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2016 06:21 PM (5sOEp)

469 423 I don't remember which moron posted the story about the couple that went on vacation and left their coop chickens in the care of a brother in law.
Anyway, the chickens were picking on another chicken that was sick, so the BIL took it to the vet, where he spent several hundred dollars to get the vet to nurse it back to health.
He puts it back in the coop with the other chickens, they peck it to death...
Posted by: navybrat
---------------

Ha!
I remember that.
Didn't the couple come home and say "dude, we can be a new chick for $4!"

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:21 PM (VOrHe)

470 >>I don't know how many inches we'll end up with.



The Shadow knows...

Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 06:22 PM (c8Ctg)

471 Speaking of chickens , John McCain is chicken crap. AZ you had a chance man , you had a chance.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 11, 2016 06:22 PM (nkCeM)

472 Bluebell, stop trying to convince me to eat my horrible chickens! Mean. So mean.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:22 PM (6IPEM)

473 Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2016 06:21 PM (5sOEp)

Filipinos...balutes

Posted by: BignJames at December 11, 2016 06:22 PM (x9c8r)

474 >> Supposedly the most foul-smelling thing you can eat.


I don't know about that.

Posted by: Huma Abedin at December 11, 2016 06:22 PM (c8Ctg)

475 Saw a news report about a tagged albatross on Midway island. It was tagged about 1950.


What kind of wine pairs well with 66 year-old albatross?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 11, 2016 06:22 PM (ZLQuU)

476 Best fried fish really is whatever you just caught and cooked.

I've eaten pepper-battered pan fried Crappy fished from a remote Canadian BC lake that tasted as good as anything not named after Mr. Crapper.

One fall morning I caught a slender eight inch sierra kokanee for breakfast, it had the most magnificently colored orange-red flesh I've ever seen. I wrapped it in foil and heated it briefly over campfire coals. The par-cooked meat was so sweet tasting that more than twenty years later I still remember that first astonishing bite.

Posted by: 13times at December 11, 2016 06:22 PM (WHVu+)

477 I hate winter

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2016 06:23 PM (5sOEp)

478 https://is.gd/GynEZd

Bilbo seed cake

but...caraway seed? bygone era...

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 06:23 PM (U0lQa)

479 Speaking of chickens , John McCain is chicken crap. AZ you had a chance man , you had a chance.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 11, 2016 06:22 PM (nkCeM)

Any chance Trump can make McStain an offer he can't refuse?....

Lots of horses in Arizona.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 11, 2016 06:23 PM (5VlCp)

480 I'm surprised there is no snow on the field. It's been coming down here all day.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersandsand so there at December 11, 2016 06:19 PM (P8951)
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We should be able to get out by morning. The snow is supposed to end around 10 o'clock.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:24 PM (dFi94)

481 But L,Elle fried chicken is so good

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2016 06:24 PM (5sOEp)

482 anybody use pop bicuits for dumplings?

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 06:24 PM (U0lQa)

483 >>> Crab bisque except I have no crab on hand.

So, hot milk?

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2016 06:25 PM (jw2Xw)

484 and some guy in a lab coat with a clipboard came into our lab, and put a big food tin of *something* in front of us and asked us to taste it and comment.
Posted by: deplorablegoatsxchange at December 11, 2016 06:19 PM (gOzTJ)
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Soylent Olive Drab.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 06:25 PM (EnKk6)

485 Make McStain the Ambassador to Vietnam

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2016 06:25 PM (SjImc)

486 some guy in a lab coat with a clipboard came into our lab, and put a big food tin of *something* in front of us and asked us to taste it and comment.

Posted by: deplorablegoatsxchange at December 11, 2016 06:19 PM (gOzTJ)

Aaaand?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 11, 2016 06:25 PM (sEDyY)

487 While I have youse all here - anybody got any good
recipes for appetizers that aren't too heavy? I've got plenty for
things that are oozing with melted cheese, etc., but would love to have
some that are not gut-busters.





Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:17 PM (sBOL1)

Late to the thread, had a nap.
I always do a roll up gma did. Room temperature creme cheese, spread on the oblong sliced thin ham, put a trimmed green onion on the long end and roll. wrap each roll in wax paper and twist ends. Can be refrigerated overnight or at least a few hours. Before serving, slice in 1/4 inch slices. Place on tray. They look and taste great!

Posted by: Infidel at December 11, 2016 06:25 PM (a62hT)

488 What kind of wine pairs well with 66 year-old albatross?

Mariner Beverages, of course. If it's aged well

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2016 06:25 PM (6FqZa)

489 Make McStain the Ambassador to Vietnam

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2016 06:25 PM (SjImc)
===================

there ya go

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:26 PM (dFi94)

490 My ex brought Bill the rooster into the house after he and Hillary got into a nasty tussle (he was bleeding).

I'll just say, don't do it.
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR
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Chickens can throw ashtrays?
Huh. Learn something new everyday here.

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:26 PM (VOrHe)

491 So Trump should put McCain out to stud?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2016 06:26 PM (6FqZa)

492 473. The Chinese do the '100 year old egg' with soil and ashes. Pretty foul, I hear.

Angel-clan dig balut, which for them is a fertilized duck or chicken egg allowed to develop a bit before being cooked in the shell. Yeah....not my thing.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 11, 2016 06:26 PM (/Qimn)

493 I must go out back and fetch my virtual eggs.

Posted by: Hipster Douchebag at December 11, 2016 06:27 PM (Tyii7)

494 Eating albatross is an excellent alternative to being a vegan.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 11, 2016 06:27 PM (sFenw)

495 Hey y'all.

Fried Chicken and French Toast....MMmmmmm.

Posted by: SMFH at December 11, 2016 06:28 PM (CRotO)

496 Ha, Skip. I love fried chicken except if I tried to make some out of one of my chickens it would be the worst fried chicken ever bc they would taste bad on purpose just to spite me as a final F You.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:28 PM (6IPEM)

497 If I can make dumpling dough anyone can.

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2016 06:29 PM (5sOEp)

498 So Trump should put McCain out to stud?
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2016 06:26 PM (6FqZa)

Breed.....as in on the bottom.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 11, 2016 06:29 PM (5VlCp)

499 That's my Jordy

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:29 PM (dFi94)

500 http://www.theprairiehomestead.com/2014/07/cook-old-chicken.html

Posted by: SMFH at December 11, 2016 06:30 PM (CRotO)

501 hahaha i actually have some hipster douchebags down the street that raise chickens. Bernie signs everywhere, subarus, goatees, etc

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at December 11, 2016 06:30 PM (U0lQa)

502 Fresh oysters? Clams? Come on.

Barbecuing now. Meat for me, now veggies for Heidi.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'non thinker extraordinaire' at December 11, 2016 06:30 PM (AGr9E)

503 I know it sounds dumber than a libtard but it happens.
You watch the goings on and you want to step in and do something. It is laughable, I realize this.

Posted by: washrivergal


Not all impulses to interfere are "liberal". Like stopping a mugging in progress, for instance. With pets, I don't know, I'd also think it's justifiable.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 11, 2016 06:30 PM (rH4JY)

504 Conch? Just 'cooked' in lime juice? Fresh from a dive?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'non thinker extraordinaire' at December 11, 2016 06:31 PM (AGr9E)

505 Thanks L, Elle and garrett.
Written down and saved.
Yea!! I can start dove hunting again next year.
Ex's recipe and swore after the first time I ate it I'd never wrap dove in bacon and put it on the grill again.

Posted by: teej at December 11, 2016 06:31 PM (gJ3Vg)

506 Dr Maturin in the Patrick O'Brian books is facinated by albatross, I think they eat them in the Desolation Island book.

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2016 06:32 PM (5sOEp)

507 500 http://www.theprairiehomestead.com/2014/07/cook-old-chicken.html
Posted by: SMFH at December 11, 2016 06:30 PM (CRotO)


Nice. Old chickens make really special stock.

Posted by: Splunge at December 11, 2016 06:32 PM (iMxBJ)

508 Ugh, can we cut away from this Fudgepacker game to an interesting one?

Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2016 06:32 PM (L9cry)

509 Posted by: logprof at December 11, 2016 06:32 PM (L9cry)



You hush now.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:33 PM (dFi94)

510 449 Little known factoid - chickens are cannibals and will eat eggs.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 11, 2016 06:16 PM (P/kVC)


Ours love leftover cooked chicken, too.

Posted by: Splunge at December 11, 2016 06:33 PM (iMxBJ)

511 488 What kind of wine pairs well with 66 year-old albatross?

Mariner Beverages, of course. If it's aged well
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2016 06:25 PM (6FqZa)

How's s that compare to manatee?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'non thinker extraordinaire' at December 11, 2016 06:33 PM (AGr9E)

512 Angel-clan dig balut, which for them is a fertilized duck or chicken egg allowed to develop a bit before being cooked in the shell. Yeah....not my thing.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
-----------------

"Develop" huh?
That's a nice way of saying "rot" I guess.
If Andrew Zimmern won't take a second bite, I don't even want to be near it.

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:33 PM (iyJI9)

513 SMFH, not related to food but I heard you do a really good Anita Baker. How about Tony Braxton and Dinah Washington?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 11, 2016 06:33 PM (0PUMp)

514 Speaking of lame horses that get f*cked on the field, the Colts somehow found a way to lose to the Texans today.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2016 06:34 PM (6FqZa)

515 I'm watching Straight Outta Compton. Hmmm. It has my interest. Is this a bad movie worth 2 hrs of my life? This stupid HD will be the end of me. Now, I want to watch tv all of the sudden bc the picture quality is so amazing

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:34 PM (6IPEM)

516 >>Posted by: teej at December 11, 2016 06:31 PM (gJ3Vg)


I like to cook doves in a casserole dish with a brown/wild rice casserole with a morel cream sauce.


Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2016 06:34 PM (c8Ctg)

517 Eating albatross is an excellent alternative to being a vegan.

Posted by: The Chicken


This soup tastes familiar ... NO!!!

Posted by: the husband who ate the albatross soup at December 11, 2016 06:34 PM (rH4JY)

518 "Develop" huh?
That's a nice way of saying "rot" I guess.
If Andrew Zimmern won't take a second bite, I don't even want to be near it.
Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:33 PM (iyJI9)


Not rot or ferment... think 'gestate'.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 11, 2016 06:34 PM (8nWyX)

519 It's apparent to anyone with half a brain that any 'leaked' report from the CIA is a partisan political hit job. Just like their internal operation against Bush.

First, any report on this subject would not be released by any Intelligence service at this point in time . It would be something an enemy of the USA would do. It serves no purpose to release it publicly except to flame discord and raise questions with the elected leadership . If the CIA released this on purpose they are traitors and we really are in a period of a cold civil war.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 11, 2016 06:35 PM (nkCeM)

520 512 "Develop" huh?
That's a nice way of saying "rot" I guess.
If Andrew Zimmern won't take a second bite, I don't even want to be near it.
Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:33 PM (iyJI9)


I don't think they let them rot, but who knows. "Develop" means "grow into an almost-baby". I had one at a food fair. You crack open the top, add some vinegar, drink the juice, and chow down on the little guy. You could think of it as the poultry equivalent of a soft-shell crab. It wasn't bad. I'd have one again if it was handy in a bar, but I wouldn't seek it out.

Posted by: Splunge at December 11, 2016 06:36 PM (iMxBJ)

521 Little known factoid - chickens are cannibals and will eat eggs.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at De
*****
Yup. That is indeed true. They do eat their potential kids. They're such awful animals. Chickens are cannibals.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:37 PM (6IPEM)

522 518. Bingo. The ideal is only a little fuzz and nothing too crunchy.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at December 11, 2016 06:37 PM (/Qimn)

523 @492. On the same trip to the Philippine where I bought my coasters, I also ate balut. My honeyko bought it from a street gender and I was drunk enough to not think about what I was doing. It actually tasted good but it's not something I would probably do again.

Posted by: Bill R. at December 11, 2016 06:37 PM (jKUeC)

524 468 Don't know if I will get this exactly right but Russians take eggs, bury them in lye in a long time after dig them up and eat them. Supposedly the most foul-smelling thing you can eat.
Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2016 06:21 PM (5sOEp)

There's a thing called a "century egg" that involved burying an egg in, among other things, quicklime. It's a Chinese thing, I think. Looks absolutely disgusting.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 06:37 PM (0mRoj)

525 521 Little known factoid - chickens are cannibals and will eat eggs.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at De
*****
Yup. That is indeed true. They do eat their potential kids. They're such awful animals. Chickens are cannibals.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:37 PM (6IPEM)


Uhhhmmm excuse me, theres others in the room.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'non thinker extraordinaire' at December 11, 2016 06:38 PM (AGr9E)

526 Not rot or ferment... think 'gestate'.
Posted by: hogmartin
---------------

Yeah. No need to wonder which came first with balut. You get BOTH in one little shell!

I guess it's the 100 year eggs that I'm think of where they eat rotten, black eggs...

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:38 PM (iyJI9)

527 513 SMFH, not related to food but I heard you do a really good Anita Baker. How about Tony Braxton and Dinah Washington?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 11, 2016 06:33 PM (0PUMp)

---

Yeah, no.

Will be a long, long time before I get that inebriated again.

L,Elle, I liked it, since I'm a big Ice Cube, NWA, and Oakland Raiders fan. Plus growing up in both north and south Cali, it was sorta like a trip down memory lane as far as the music.

otherwise, you probably won't like it.

Posted by: SMFH at December 11, 2016 06:39 PM (CRotO)

528 3
I had some Hoam once. Wasn't that impressed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 11, 2016 03:59 PM (0F67M)


I never had a hoam...thats why I ramble...ramble on.


Posted by: Mimzey at December 11, 2016 06:39 PM (n3hky)

529 Actually grammie, that's OUR Jordy.
Kansas is just loaning him to you fine folks up there for, hopefully, the duration of his hall of fame carreer.

Posted by: teej at December 11, 2016 06:39 PM (gJ3Vg)

530 >>rotten, black eggs...


What,

...like, Hillary?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 11, 2016 06:40 PM (c8Ctg)

531 Posted by: Insomniac at December 11, 2016 06:37 PM (0mRoj)

525 521 Little known factoid - chickens are cannibals and will eat eggs.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at De
*****
Yup. That is indeed true. They do eat their potential kids. They're such awful animals. Chickens are cannibals.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:37 PM (6IPEM)


Uhhhmmm excuse me, theres others in the room.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'non thinker extraordinaire' at December 11, 2016 06:38 PM (AGr9E)


Also, if you look around, it may not be such a bad thing that some animals eat their young.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'non thinker extraordinaire' at December 11, 2016 06:41 PM (AGr9E)

532 teej - he is a fine representative of his home state. Thank you for letting him stay with us for a while. He's looking good tonight.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:41 PM (dFi94)

533 Nood-Canadian football

Posted by: Flyboy at December 11, 2016 06:42 PM (L+dg+)

534 Read another report (Atlantic I think) that it has to do whith the email hacking that changed no ones opinion for or against Hillary. But they need a scapegoat why she lost.

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2016 06:42 PM (5sOEp)

535 Well, I like rap a lot and it's keeping my interest so far.
SMFH, is it sad? It seems like it's going to be a sad movie.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:42 PM (6IPEM)

536 *waves to the pretty lady with the tank

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:42 PM (iyJI9)

537 Our cat gave birth to a litter and then ate all their heads off. We took her to get spayed after that.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:42 PM (dFi94)

538 Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:33 PM (dFi94)

If only they had been playing like this all season!

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 11, 2016 06:42 PM (P8951)

539 The CIA, which we once hated with the heat of a thousand suns is now beyond all reproach. Ironic!

Posted by: Progressive Douchebags at December 11, 2016 06:42 PM (Tyii7)

540 537 Our cat gave birth to a litter and then ate all their heads off. We took her to get spayed after that.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:42 PM (dFi94)


Well isn't this a fun thread. Gees.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'non thinker extraordinaire' at December 11, 2016 06:43 PM (AGr9E)

541 Correction if needed but I thought century eggs were duck eggs.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 11, 2016 06:44 PM (0PUMp)

542 541 Correction if needed but I thought century eggs were duck eggs.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 11, 2016 06:44 PM (0PUMp)


Yes, they are.

Posted by: Splunge at December 11, 2016 06:44 PM (iMxBJ)

543 537 Our cat gave birth to a litter and then ate all their heads off. We took her to get spayed after that.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room
------------------

I remember having gerbils as kids. I was maybe 5 or 6.
While horrified, I still couldnt stop watching them eat the babies.
Sickening and fascinating all at once...

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:45 PM (iyJI9)

544 537
Our cat gave birth to a litter and then ate all their heads off. We took her to get spayed after that.


Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016

Can't really blame her. The heads are the best part.

Posted by: Mimzey at December 11, 2016 06:46 PM (n3hky)

545 537 Our cat gave birth to a litter and then ate all their heads off. We took her to get spayed after that.
Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:42 PM (dFi94)
----
Yeeeeeessshhhh.

Think I'll watch The Walking Dead.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 11, 2016 06:46 PM (EnKk6)

546 Hey Chi : )

L,Elle, there are some sad parts, but it's a drama, so there's bound to be some less-than-happy stuff.

Especially when Eazy-E is thrown into the volcano.

Posted by: SMFH at December 11, 2016 06:48 PM (CRotO)

547 And Jordy was a walk-on at K-State.
A freaking walk-on.

Posted by: teej at December 11, 2016 06:48 PM (gJ3Vg)

548
Got the Christmas wishlist from the 3 and half year old grandson.

He wants Grampa to get him a goat, a donkey and a cow! 😳

Dogs, cats and chickens aren't enough? Oh well. I've been thinking of getting a pair of nanny goats for a while now...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at December 11, 2016 06:48 PM (4DCSq)

549 The vet said that it's their way of dealing with defective offspring. Evidently she sensed that there was something wrong. Or maybe she was just a whack job.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:48 PM (dFi94)

550 543 537 Our cat gave birth to a litter and then ate all their heads off. We took her to get spayed after that.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room
------------------

I remember having gerbils as kids. I was maybe 5 or 6.
While horrified, I still couldnt stop watching them eat the babies.

Sickening and fascinating all at once...

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:45 PM (iyJI9)

Gees Louise...who ARE you people?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'non thinker extraordinaire' at December 11, 2016 06:48 PM (AGr9E)

551 LOL Cannibal Bob

Posted by: SMFH at December 11, 2016 06:49 PM (CRotO)

552 A freaking walk-on.

Posted by: teej at December 11, 2016 06:48 PM (gJ3Vg)
=================

Seriously? I did not know that. Wasn't Tony Romo a walk-on too?

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:49 PM (dFi94)

553 Angel-clan dig balut, which for them is a fertilized
duck or chicken egg allowed to develop a bit before being cooked in the
shell. Yeah....not my thing.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine

-----------------



"Develop" huh?

That's a nice way of saying "rot" I guess.

If Andrew Zimmern won't take a second bite, I don't even want to be near it.

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:33 PM (iyJI9)

Got to boil them before the feathers and bills/beaks develop much. Texture can be off-putting...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 11, 2016 06:49 PM (P/kVC)

554 Got to boil them before the feathers and bills/beaks develop much. Texture can be off-putting...
==============================


See?? My cat fits right in.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:50 PM (dFi94)

555 God help me, the barbeque is ready....I need another drink first.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'non thinker extraordinaire' at December 11, 2016 06:53 PM (AGr9E)

556 382
172 Related to the one little town that make all the coasters:



Almost all dominos are made in Waco, Texas.

And even less related, did you know that almost all newspaper vending machines are made in Shiner, Texas (along with some great beer)?

Posted by: jayhawkone at December 11, 2016 06:53 PM (ZD+J8)

557 I knew cats were evil. This is why I'm a dog person. Dogs wouldn't eat their babies. They're way too nice to do something like that. They just stick to eating their own vomit and poop.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:54 PM (6IPEM)

558 Got to boil them before the feathers and bills/beaks develop much. Texture can be off-putting...
==============================
See?? My cat fits right in.


Your cat even boiled the kittens first? That's an impressive animal.

Posted by: mikeski at December 11, 2016 06:54 PM (lO+tS)

559 Grammie, I had to put down a litter of very sick kittens one time. I used a nicotine derivative that was super effective. My Vet warned me, don't miss, because it was equally effective on people.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 11, 2016 06:54 PM (0PUMp)

560 And even less related, did you know that almost all
newspaper vending machines are made in Shiner, Texas (along with some
great beer)?


Posted by: jayhawkone at December 11, 2016 06:53 PM (ZD+J
======================

I think there's a place that makes almost all the manhole covers too.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:55 PM (dFi94)

561 Our cat gave birth to a litter and then ate all their heads off


Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at December 11, 2016 06:56 PM (Tyii7)

562 My Vet warned me, don't miss, because it was equally effective on people.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 11, 2016 06:54 PM (0PUMp)
========================

Oh. Oh dear.

Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 06:56 PM (dFi94)

563 Ok I shouldn't have came back.
Stick to painting and Boccirini next time.

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2016 06:57 PM (5sOEp)

564 All the Duke's is made in Richmond.

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:58 PM (iyJI9)

565 I know, Skip.
Cats eating cats.
Only would this conversation happen here --- on a food thread no less!

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2016 06:59 PM (6IPEM)

566 Did everyone go upstairs?
I figured "Canadian football" meant hockey. Or maybe soccer.
What's that aboot, anyway, eh?

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 07:00 PM (iyJI9)

567 566 Did everyone go upstairs?
I figured "Canadian football" meant hockey. Or maybe soccer.
What's that aboot, anyway, eh?
Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 07:00 PM (iyJI9)


It's like our football, but they substitute some sort of salted, smoked lean pork loin for streaky bacon. They still call it football, though.

Posted by: Splunge at December 11, 2016 07:07 PM (iMxBJ)

568 Top chicken photo is of FREE RANGE, second is of CAGE FREE. I have a few hens. Don't lay worth a damn anymore, but they amuse me. They have a very roomy coop, and a fortified 8x14 4 ft. tall fenced/cage attached yard. I cannot free range ours because if the hawks don't get them the stray cats will. If they make it past those threats the crows are waiting, and the foxes and raccoon's too. Fisher-cats roam about looking for easy prey too. One rouge hawk can take out a bunch of hens in one day

Sometimes I take them over to our fenced garden to have a day trip, which they love. They follow me right over and go right in. Smart critters, but terribly vulnerable.

Posted by: GrandeMe at December 11, 2016 07:09 PM (2gvNR)

569 467
>> I think I have all the ingredients to make a chicken noodle soup.



You have had a Chicken named 'Noodles'?

FIFY

Posted by: jayhawkone at December 11, 2016 07:10 PM (ZD+J8)

570 Grammie, I had to put down a litter of very sick kittens one time. I used a nicotine derivative that was super effective.


When my father was little and the cat litters were too big he had to put them in a weighted burlap bag and toss them into the river.

Sure, it was emotionally scarring, but it was Americana.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 07:19 PM (mgbwf)

571 Chickens can throw ashtrays?

Huh. Learn something new everyday here.

Posted by: Chi at December 11, 2016 06:26 PM (VOrHe)

Silly boy - chickens don't smoke!

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 07:19 PM (tHwdc)

572 Zweigle's Red Hots from Rochester, NY, best hot dog in the world.

http://www.zweigles.com

Makes Paris cuisine look like freedom fries. Except for the truffles, they are beyond anything here.

Posted by: Joe Mack at December 11, 2016 07:38 PM (iLoHX)

573
Silly boy - chickens don't smoke!

Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at December 11, 2016 07:19 PM (tHwdc)

Only after sex.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'non thinker extraordinaire' at December 11, 2016 07:39 PM (AGr9E)

574 "39 I don't mind the little bar napkins. A trick I learned years ago was to sprinkle a bit of salt on the napkin. Then the napkin won't stick to the glass.
Posted by: bocephus at December 11, 2016 04:08 PM "

Yep. This works nicely in a "pinch".

Posted by: eforhan at December 11, 2016 07:40 PM (QF7Nv)

575 Cheez Whiz didn't make the cut?

And our chickens are happily penned up now because ITS FRIGGIN COLD OUTSIDE.

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at December 11, 2016 07:46 PM (ixxO0)

576 Mis Hum is right. Walleye is really good.
Posted by: grammie winger - Let Every Heart Prepare Him Room at December 11, 2016 04:13

Loved the breakfast special when we were up in the UP. Eggs, hash browns, walleye and a can of Old Mil! Delish.

Posted by: Farmer at December 11, 2016 07:53 PM (o/90i)

577 Thanks for the shrimp recipe, CBD. I will be sure to serve with extra suffering.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 08:02 PM (sBOL1)

578 I think Canadians should play football on ice skates.

I would watch that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 08:03 PM (mgbwf)

579 Also I think I should look at which thread I'm posting in.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 08:04 PM (mgbwf)

580 Also I think I should look at which thread I'm posting in.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 11, 2016 08:04

LOL. I've gotten up in the morning more than once to look at the ONT after I quit posting. Lo and behold, I wasn't there, I was posting in the thread before the ONT. Alcohol may have been involved.

Posted by: Farmer at December 11, 2016 08:27 PM (o/90i)

581 Loved the breakfast special when we were up in the UP. Eggs, hash browns, walleye and a can of Old Mil! Delish.



Posted by: Farmer at December 11, 2016 07:53 PM (o/90i)

Close to me Farmer. Where in the UP?

Posted by: Mimzey at December 11, 2016 09:20 PM (n3hky)

582 Greetings:

I've been to Bayonne and I didn't see anything that I'd put in my mouth never mind my belly.

Posted by: 11B40 at December 11, 2016 09:45 PM (evgyj)

583 While I have youse all here - anybody got any good
recipes for appetizers that aren't too heavy? I've got plenty for
things that are oozing with melted cheese, etc., but would love to have
some that are not gut-busters.

Posted by: bluebell at December 11, 2016 04:17 PM (sBOL1)


Very late to the thread.

I have an 'eat with your fingers' appetizer recipe (I created) which is on the expensive side. Make it for people you really like.

Asparagus-Prosciutto Roll-Ups

Buy as many slices of prosciutto you can afford/need. Buy a bunch of asparagus, counting the spears to get near the number of prosciutto slices. Buy a log of goat cheese, 12-18 oz. or so, depending on the number of roll-ups you'll make.

Soften the goat cheese in a bowl. Add a pinch of dried oregano, a tablespoon or two of minced Kalamata olives, the zest of one lemon and a grind of fresh black pepper. Reserve.

Snap one asparagus spear and use as a measuring stick to cut the rest. In a large saucepan, heat a couple of inches of water. Add the juice of one lemon as well as the lemon halves. Once the water is boiling, add the asparagus and blanch briefly. Remove to an ice bath then drain and dry.

On a large work surface, place a slice of prosciutto. Dot the slice at five points with the goat cheese mixture (like the five on a dice cube) then smear to cover the slice. Place an asparagus spear across the width, not the length. Roll the prosciutto over the asparagus. The prosciutto fat will seal the roll-up as working with the meat warms it up enough.

To store, place thin slices of lemon in a glass container (that has a lid). Layer lemon slices, roll-ups, lemon slices, etc., finishing with lemon slices on top. Cover the container with plastic wrap then the lid. This will keep in the fridge for several days.

To serve, take them out about an hour or so ahead of time. You can serve them as is on a platter. Or you can make individual plates of roll-ups, adding fresh black and green olives and chunks of Parmigiano Reggiano/Auricchio Provolone.

Not heavy at all. But expensive. The last time I made it, 45 roll-ups cost well over $90.

Posted by: RickZ at December 11, 2016 11:38 PM (dQLTf)

584 This is what it's really like, and actually, I couldn't find a more
realistic photo. But these are animals, and their purpose is to feed us.
Should we try to make their lives are as pain free as possible? Of
course! But I would take a flame thrower to that flock to save the life
of one human.


I know that you hate the hippies buttercup, but a couple of things come to mind when I look at that chicken house. They're forced to live very close together, and they're forced to walk around in feces their entire lives, and I imagine the air is foul. This all contributes to disease, and so we give them antibiotics. You know those things that if over used creates super bugs. What fresh bacterial hell is growing in that place, preparing to slough forth into the world? Remember avian flu is awesome!

Posted by: DFCtomm at December 12, 2016 01:44 PM (bAc43)

585 Coq au Vin heavy on both....................save the feathers for stuffin Kapernicks game balls.............

Posted by: saf at December 12, 2016 02:26 PM (+zN6H)

586 I'm late but I'll just drop this here. http://tinyurl.com/hxg9xja
Bald eagles feasting on chickens

Posted by: contagious at December 12, 2016 05:50 PM (evAoO)

587 ^^^ to an "economisty" like Kuigman that's Chicken pluckin good for the GDP..................

Posted by: saf at December 13, 2016 12:04 PM (+zN6H)

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