Trump: Flag Burning Should be Illegal, Maybe Punished by a Year in Jail or Forfeiture of Citizenship

Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 29, 2016

The media is screaming about this, but failing to note that Hillary Clinton proposed outlawing flag burning in 2005.

Below, Chris Cuomo lectures a Trump aide on the unconstitutionality of anti-flag-burning laws -- completely forgetting that he notoriously claimed that a "Chaplinsky rule" in the Constitution made it okey-dokey to criminalize speech if it offended someone.

It's amazing that this illiterate dum-dum dares to lecture people on what the Constitution says. He's so damn smug in his towering ignorance.

Update: AllahPundit notes that a lot of Trump defenders are offering (as we once did for Bush) a lot of 11th-dimensional chess-type explanations for Trump's outburst, claiming he's playing the long game from wicked angles you can't even see -- trying to deflect from this, prepare the battlespace for that, and generally troll and bait his opponents into making some sort of error.

The most obvious explanation (which Allah notes) is that Trump saw something on "the shows" about flag-burning, decided he didn't like it on a purely gut level, and tossed out his tweet to the world.

Well, it turns out that Trump tweeted at about the time FoxNews had on a segment about flag-burning.

Now, I don't buy the "Trying to Deflect from News He Doesn't Want You to Pay Attention To" explanation (given that a much simpler explanation exists and accords with what was on TV at the time). But it's wrong to say there's no bad news to deflect attention away from -- probably.

Chris Christie is giving a press announcement today, without taking any questions from the media.

I am guessing -- without knowing -- that this has something to do with Bridgegate, or simply noting that he's decided not to seek re-election in 2017.

Eh, would Trump care about that? Probably not really. Still, it does seem there is likely to be some indirectly-affecting-Trump bad news later.

Donald Trump aide: "Flag burning should be illegal. End of story." https://t.co/TBjuvtvc7E pic.twitter.com/AAW5jJ0YEM
— CNN (@CNN) November 29, 2016

Posted by: Ace at 11:48 AM

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1 Stray Voltage.

Posted by: Mike Jonze at November 29, 2016 11:49 AM (Pl1FV)

2 Burn baby burn!

Posted by: johnd01 at November 29, 2016 11:49 AM (ukNFU)

3 Among the troll-master Jedi knights, Trump is Yoda.

Posted by: Roy at November 29, 2016 11:50 AM (VndSC)

4 I'm smart. Not like everybody says.

Posted by: Chris Cuomo at November 29, 2016 11:50 AM (OD2ni)

5 I always love the vids where some idiot is trying to burn the flag and catches himself on fire.

Posted by: HH at November 29, 2016 11:50 AM (DrCtv)

6 Johnny Ola told me about this place.

Posted by: Chris Cuomo at November 29, 2016 11:51 AM (OD2ni)

7 He should have tweeted that flag burning should only be legal if you wrap yourself in it first.

Posted by: Roy at November 29, 2016 11:51 AM (VndSC)

8 Trump= Master Troll. He IS the Puppet Master.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 29, 2016 11:52 AM (ty7RM)

9 It shouldn't be illegal, but if someone whips your ass for it, the act should be treated as "fighting words" imo.

Posted by: BignJames at November 29, 2016 11:52 AM (x9c8r)

10 Think Trump is trolling here. Which considering the volume of grief for a fascist murdering dictator, more power to him.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2016 11:53 AM (92kX2)

11 you wonder if Trump brought this up so people like us can respond "so it's okay to burn a flag on a college campus but not put up "Trump for President" posters..?"

Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 29, 2016 11:53 AM (2JQBv)

12 But if I burned a rainbow flag, I'd be committing a hate crime.

Posted by: josephistan at November 29, 2016 11:53 AM (7HtZB)

13 The only consistent thing about these lefty cretins is their ever present inconsistency.

Posted by: steve walsh at November 29, 2016 11:53 AM (NpU7V)

14 Lieawatha thinks because Democrats had more votes in the country they have a mandate or something.

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2016 11:53 AM (5sOEp)

15 As I've seen on a bumper sticker:

I have no problem with you burning the flag as long as you wrap yourself in it first.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 29, 2016 11:53 AM (KTJxj)

16 I wonder how long it's going to take Cuomo of the other dummies to realize Trump does this stuff on porpoise.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2016 11:53 AM (/tuJf)

17 Flag burning should not be illegal. However, the fine for "stopping" someone from burning the flag should be $1.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 29, 2016 11:53 AM (1H9ox)

18 So a year in prison is too long for flag burning Chris?
Is 6 months OK?

Posted by: Trump Art of the Deal at November 29, 2016 11:54 AM (XtAzU)

19 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at November 29, 2016 11:54 AM (GwIKd)

20 I think it's wrong to burn fags.

Posted by: garrett at November 29, 2016 11:54 AM (MQZBa)

21 Trump needs to be tolerant of flag burning, like Castro.

Posted by: davidt at November 29, 2016 11:54 AM (XoldI)

22 I wonder how long it's going to take Cuomo of the other dummies to realize Trump does this stuff on porpoise.

I, too, also wonder.

Posted by: Ranger Lance at November 29, 2016 11:54 AM (u0s1P)

23 BignJames @9:

"It shouldn't be illegal, but if someone whips your ass for it,"

In Parliament of Whores, PJ O'Rourke refers to a southern state that passed a statute fining $25 for assault on a flag-desecrator.

Posted by: JPS at November 29, 2016 11:55 AM (74LDw)

24 Chris Cuomo has doll's eyes. Cold, dead, brainless doll's eyes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 11:55 AM (PY9jH)

25 >>I think it's wrong to burn fags.

Geez, the Brits are already worse anti-smoking Nazis than we are, don't you start.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2016 11:55 AM (/tuJf)

26 15 As I've seen on a bumper sticker:

I have no problem with you burning the flag as long as you wrap yourself in it first.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 29, 2016 11:53 AM (KTJxj)

Wasn't that a Bob Hope line?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2016 11:55 AM (92kX2)

27 Talk about burning: The Great Smoky Mountain NP is on fire. Gatlinberg and Pigeon Forge are being evacuated. Emergency officials are in a panic over what happens when 10 million tacky t-shirts go up in flames.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 29, 2016 11:55 AM (ty7RM)

28 Maybe he's trolling, maybe not. Either way, Pence has to talk Melania into withholding the Barbarian and the Naughty Slave Girl sessions until Trump promises to stop tweeting so often.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at November 29, 2016 11:55 AM (RD7QR)

29 So, is Trump purposefully laying these Twitter traps that the media and the left (BIRM) keep falling into, or is or entirely accidental? It's getting harder me to not think Trump really is playing 4 dimensional chess when these idiots keep stepping on their own dicks

Posted by: LordDilly at November 29, 2016 11:56 AM (FDRTI)

30 Is that Chris "Remember, it's illegal to read these emails from Wikileaks, only CNN can tell you what's in them" Cuomo? Or is is Chris "Oh no. That sucks. We just accidentally dropped the feed from someone who was saying something we don't like" Cuomo? I mean, they can't be the same guy, no way would CNN employ such an imbecile, right?

Posted by: Flyguy at November 29, 2016 11:56 AM (31X5Y)

31 It's not Cuomo's fault.

His father was a retard, too.

Posted by: garrett at November 29, 2016 11:56 AM (MQZBa)

32 In Parliament of Whores, PJ O'Rourke refers to a southern state that passed a statute fining $25 for assault on a flag-desecrator.

Posted by: JPS at November 29, 2016 11:55 AM (74LDw)

Works for me.

Posted by: BignJames at November 29, 2016 11:56 AM (x9c8r)

33 It's kind of remarkable that a 70 year old man is a master at twitter trolling.

Posted by: josephistan at November 29, 2016 11:56 AM (7HtZB)

34 Immediate deportation of any and all US flag-burners?

Hell to the yeah - deport x2 if they are citizens.

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2016 11:57 AM (jkmtt)

35 Chris Cuomo has doll's eyes. Cold, dead, brainless doll's eyes.

I'd say you're #1 w/a bullet for thread winner.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 29, 2016 11:57 AM (ty7RM)

36 Hopefully, Chris' bro the Gubernor, will never breed with Sandra Lee.

Talk about dumbing down the blood line.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 11:57 AM (PY9jH)

37 Scott Adams would say this is more pacing by Trump. And while I do think flag burning is just a very obnoxious form of free speech by starting with the extreme "right wing" position Trump may get the country to accept something like "if you use fighting words (or actions like flag burning)" in a crowd the police have no obligation to protect you from the backlash."

Posted by: PaleRider with link to the funeral expense fund for SMFH's Carl at November 29, 2016 11:57 AM (Jen0I)

38 It's kind of remarkable that a 70 year old man is a master at twitter trolling.

If the news cycle is just a realty TV show, who better than a reality TV star?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 29, 2016 11:57 AM (u0s1P)

39 I kind of hope that Trump has someone digging up past (or even current) positions and statements that actually aren't batshit insane from people on the left that and then he is just regurgitating them into the twitterverse.
Quoting the Clintons verbatim on amnesty or Obama on gay marriage or whatever.
And then watching the media eat it's own dick trying to bury him.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 29, 2016 11:57 AM (1H9ox)

40 Half the media is going to stroke out or go bankrupt by the time Trump comes up for re-election. Maybe that's the entire point.

Posted by: John Nada - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 29, 2016 11:58 AM (KLyOA)

41 Caution: Being a lib progressive may cause short term memory loss and hypocrisy.

Posted by: auscolpyr at November 29, 2016 11:58 AM (suO/a)

42 Donald J Trump Troll Level - Emeritus

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 11:58 AM (sUwfN)

43 Chris Cuomo is a sfacim like his old man.

Posted by: Zombie Bob Grant at November 29, 2016 11:58 AM (OD2ni)

44 Chris Cuomo has doll's eyes. Cold, dead, brainless doll's eyes.

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Brainless? But I speak!

Posted by: Jar-Jar Cuomo at November 29, 2016 11:58 AM (7HtZB)

45 The Charlie Chaplinsky rule?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2016 11:58 AM (IqV8l)

46 I tend to giggle just a tad whenever a flag burner catches himself on fire.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 11:59 AM (PY9jH)

47 Burning a flag should be punished by putting all person's belongings in a dumpster and lighting on fire. No jail, no fine, but pick out one favorite thing and the clothes you'd like to wear to watch.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 29, 2016 11:59 AM (rHpTt)

48 >>Below, Chris Cuomo lectures a Trump aide on the unconstitutionality of anti-flag-burning laws

This is the same Cuomo who has totally misinterpreted the 2nd Amendment, right? (He has so many gaffes I can't keep 'em straight).

Two words, MSM: Stray Voltage
Trump is trolling you so hard, bros!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 29, 2016 11:59 AM (NOIQH)

49 Donald J Trump Troll Level - Emeritus

I liked Insty's "Supreme Galactic Overlord," but there's lots of good ones out there.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 29, 2016 11:59 AM (u0s1P)

50 So, is Trump purposefully laying these Twitter traps that the media and the left (BIRM) keep falling into, or is or entirely accidental?

Like how he floated Patreaus knowing the media would report on how he leaked emails like Hillary and got in big trouble because of it, unlike Hillary? Because that would be genius.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 29, 2016 11:59 AM (31X5Y)

51 I get the "Jerry Sandusky-I-like-to-rape-black-boys" vibe from Chris Cuomo.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 29, 2016 11:59 AM (vg8iE)

52 "36 Hopefully, Chris' bro the Gubernor, will never breed with Sandra Lee.

Talk about dumbing down the blood line.
Posted by: Jane D'oh"

He already bred with a Kennedy so I'd say he's done enough damage.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 29, 2016 11:59 AM (OD2ni)

53 I hate people who burn the flag or disrespect it. I don't think it should be illegal as long as punching the said burner in the nose is not also illegal...free speech and all. but hey that's just me. And of course what PE Trump tweeted is sure to drive the left bat shit crazier and that is worth something right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 11:59 AM (EbeEQ)

54 >>>talk Melania into withholding the Barbarian and the Naughty Slave Girl sessions

Is that the one where Trump is reclining in a bamboo cage like Conan?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 29, 2016 12:01 PM (rHpTt)

55 This is the same Cuomo who totalled his vintage Camarro drunk driving in the Hamptons this past summer, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 29, 2016 12:01 PM (NOIQH)

56 What if I burn it in the Men's room?

Posted by: Pre-Op Tranny at November 29, 2016 12:01 PM (MQZBa)

57 Like how he floated Patreaus knowing the media would report on how he leaked emails like Hillary and got in big trouble because of it, unlike Hillary? Because that would be genius.
*******************************

I'm starting to think The Don might be a little smarter than I initially thought.

Posted by: John Nada - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 29, 2016 12:01 PM (KLyOA)

58 Phooey, just when the gaming discussion was really taking off. Chris Cuomo is a stupid twat.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 29, 2016 12:01 PM (0mRoj)

59 is it too early to go off topic? I didn't want to post this on the open thread because I though it would be missed by most.

from yahoo news, if you can call it that:

Amid widespread protests and worrying signs of dysfunction in the administration of President-elect Donald Trump, millions across the United States are likely wondering how, or if, it's possible to oust the billionaire from the White House before the 2020 presidential election. While there have long been talks of impeachment hearings, a favorite theory this week for removing Trump from power involves the 25th amendment to the Constitution.

[what signs of dysfunction? Not nominating Robert Reich to be Secretary of the Treasury? And the last paragraph, oh my: after an explanation of how the president can be removed without impeachment: the EXPERT speaks!]

Liberal "GQ" correspondent Keith Olbermann called it an instant impeachment, a sort-of "crazy-man clause." "For my money, he's nuts - couldn't pass a sanity test, open book," Olbermann said. "But of course, Section Four of the 25th Amendment here does not say 'nuts' - or impaired, or erratic or unbalanced or unhealthy or bipolar or narcissist or sociopath or psychopath. It only says 'that the president is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.' "

link if you have time to waste: http://tinyurl.com/h9haxwz

Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 29, 2016 12:02 PM (2JQBv)

60 Where's AtC? It's time for our annual Mocking of Sandra Lee's Christmas "Daycorp(se)."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:02 PM (PY9jH)

61 I respectfully disagree with Mr. Trump. As a proponent of the freedom of speech, the burning of a flag, any flag, even an American flag, cannot be prohibited.

I suggest that we legalize the burning of flags. I also suggest that we statutorily set the penalty for beating the living crap out of a flag-burner as a fine of $1.00.

Warning to protesters: I've got more crumpled one-dollar bills than a Kansas City whorehouse, and I'm looking forward to spending them.

Posted by: Qoheleth at November 29, 2016 12:02 PM (iIzG7)

62 54 >>>talk Melania into withholding the Barbarian and the Naughty Slave Girl sessions

Is that the one where Trump is reclining in a bamboo cage like Conan?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 29, 2016 12:01 PM (rHpTt)

You should hear his Austrian accent!

Posted by: Melania, in slave girl attire at November 29, 2016 12:02 PM (RD7QR)

63 As the recount drama is forgotten in pursuit of the newest Trump dangly thing.

Is the man a genius at media manipulation or is he...I dunno, an autistic savant?

Either way, glad he's going to be president instead of the Beast.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 29, 2016 12:02 PM (xJa6I)

64 >>I tend to giggle just a tad whenever a flag burner catches himself on fire.

Yes, or when they mistakenly purchase a flame-proof one that won't light and they burn their fingers trying to get it to burn!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 29, 2016 12:02 PM (NOIQH)

65 Flag burning? Not on my watch!

Posted by: Rick Monday at November 29, 2016 12:03 PM (Fp4vv)

66 >>It's time for our annual Mocking of Sandra Lee's Christmas "Daycorp(se)."

Why are you women so catty when it comes to Tablescaping?

Posted by: garrett at November 29, 2016 12:03 PM (MQZBa)

67 Trump released a squirrel for the MSM to chase, which they predictably did. This squirrel happened to have it's tail on fire just to make sure.

Posted by: Ripley at November 29, 2016 12:03 PM (1BQGO)

68 If we're going to use Cuomo's "hate speech" exception to the First Amendment, then just categorize flag-burning as hate speech. Voila, not covered by the First Amendment. Cuomo can eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 29, 2016 12:03 PM (0mRoj)

69 If you can be fined $150,000 for misgendering someone,there can be no argument for punishing flag burners.

Posted by: Jeff at November 29, 2016 12:03 PM (C5aJp)

70 I agree with Scalia on this but I guarantee 99% of the other member in my Elks lodge agree with Trump. The divide between media and "man on the street" is bigger here than on any other issue Trump has highlighted. The amount of shock here is silly over what appears to have been an off the cuff tweet responding to a 630 am story Trump saw on Fox today.

Posted by: Cjw at November 29, 2016 12:04 PM (PTHEn)

71 >>I suggest that we legalize the burning of flags. I also suggest that we
statutorily set the penalty for beating the living crap out of a
flag-burner as a fine of $1.00.

Or how about we make them purchase a flag-burning permit for, say, $100 for the environment, you know?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 29, 2016 12:04 PM (NOIQH)

72 12 But if I burned a rainbow flag, I'd be committing a hate crime.

Posted by: josephistan at November 29, 2016 11:53 AM (7HtZB)

That's a fantastic point. And sadly true.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 29, 2016 12:04 PM (WuRdh)

73 Does the left even realize how much they're being trolled? I think they lived in such a safe little bubble for the last few years, where they've done all the trolling, that they can't see that THEY are now the troll-ees.

Trump is really a master at this. Whether he's doing it on purpose or not.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at November 29, 2016 12:04 PM (1zARK)

74 Liberal "GQ" correspondent Keith Olbermann called it an instant impeachment, a sort-of "crazy-man clause." "For my money, he's nuts - couldn't pass a sanity test, open book," Olbermann said. "But of course, Section Four of the 25th Amendment here does not say 'nuts' - or impaired, or erratic or unbalanced or unhealthy or bipolar or narcissist or sociopath or psychopath. It only says 'that the president is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.' "

link if you have time to waste: http://tinyurl.com/h9haxwz

Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 29, 2016 12:02 PM (2JQBv)

What old Keith omits, because he's a fucking imbecile, is that both the VP and the cabinet have to certify to Congress that the President is unfit to discharge his duties, something that's highly unlikely.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at November 29, 2016 12:05 PM (RD7QR)

75 Trump plays the media like the proverbial Stradivarius. He's been doing that for decades starting with the NY tabloids.

This presidency is going to be like nothing we've ever seen before. He's going to blow up the status quo and the notion of how a POTUS acts.

As Bette Davis said, buckle your seatbelts boys, it's gonna be a bumpy ride!

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 29, 2016 12:05 PM (DW+jj)

76 Lefties are making the "the Supreme Court has spoken- it's settled law" argument. It's a good time to lock them down and then ask them about Citizens United. Or D.C. v. Heller. Or Plessy v. Ferguson. Or....

Posted by: Matt at November 29, 2016 12:05 PM (90w0O)

77 Let's ask Chris Cuomo how he feels about 'Draw Mohammed Day'.

Posted by: garrett at November 29, 2016 12:05 PM (MQZBa)

78 Liberal "GQ" correspondent Keith Olbermann called it an instant
impeachment, a sort-of "crazy-man clause." "For my money, he's nuts -
couldn't pass a sanity test, open book," Olbermann said. "But of course,
Section Four of the 25th Amendment here does not say 'nuts' - or
impaired, or erratic or unbalanced or unhealthy or bipolar or narcissist
or sociopath or psychopath. It only says 'that the president is unable
to discharge the powers and duties of his office.' "

Sounds like Olbermann is describing...himself.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 29, 2016 12:05 PM (qJhUV)

79 "31 It's not Cuomo's fault.

His father was a retard, too."

I believe Mario had a lot of anger in him due to his guilt over his abortion support. My father got into it with him at a parade back in the day over Mario's "personal opposition" to abortion. My dad told him that many Nazi guards were personally opposed to gassing Jews, but did it anyway and it was no excuse. Mario got a look of anger I had never seen before and came back at my father screaming while his bodyguards pulled him away. Hit a nerve as they say.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 29, 2016 12:06 PM (OD2ni)

80
Why are you women so catty when it comes to Tablescaping?

Posted by: garrett at November 29, 2016 12:03 PM (MQZBa)

*Sigh* Must I remind the Horde once again, of Ms. Lee's Kocktail Kristmas Tree? A Christmas tree hung with bar ware. Seriously. Or the Christmas she had giant, terrifying Nutcrackers all over the house?

I can only imagine the horrors she inflicts on the NY governor's mansion.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:06 PM (PY9jH)

81 So burning the flag is free speech, but rubbing one out in the ladies' fitting room is a crime!!1??!1!

Well, except at Target, of course.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at November 29, 2016 12:06 PM (sF/De)

82 Where people burn flags, they eventually burn joss.

Posted by: General Zod at November 29, 2016 12:06 PM (Bdeb0)

83 It only says 'that the president is unable
to discharge the powers and duties of his office.' "

Sounds like Olbermann is describing...himself.

Or Obama...

Posted by: deplorable donna at November 29, 2016 12:06 PM (O2RFr)

84 Sometimes, if I close my eyes and drift away, I can hear the words Trump says coming out of the mouths of any of 7 different uncles of mine. All the very definition of salt of the earth.

DT is down with the real struggle.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 29, 2016 12:06 PM (1H9ox)

85 the Dear leader imposed blasphemy laws (you tube guy, Koran burning).

Delaware's own Joe Biden briefly tried a pathetic flag burning law, as did Clinton.

The MFM ignored Trump supporters being attacked.

Several school districts and now one college have openly banned or restricted flags.

let them whine. This will play well.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 29, 2016 12:06 PM (326rv)

86 I get the "Jerry Sandusky-I-like-to-rape-black-boys" vibe from Chris Cuomo.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 29, 2016 11:59 AM (vg8iE)

At Harry Reid's house, that's called "Wednesday."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 29, 2016 12:06 PM (X6fMO)

87 Tripoli Precedent. Pasha Yusuf chopped down the US flag, and got himself the Marines as a consequence. Deliberate destruction of a US flag is a declaration of war upon the United States. As a combatant, you have certain rights -- so long as you are in uniform. Those are the only rights you have, though.

No new laws required.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 29, 2016 12:06 PM (H5rtT)

88 Trump's Tweet is going to spark a firestorm of flag burning, to be covered and defended by the mfm, which will further the growing contempt for all things leftist in the country.

Posted by: davidt at November 29, 2016 12:07 PM (XoldI)

89 69 If you can be fined $150,000 for misgendering someone,there can be no argument for punishing flag burners.

Posted by: Jeff at November 29, 2016 12:03 PM (C5aJp)

Or how about we make them purchase a flag-burning permit for, say, $100 for the environment, you know?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 29, 2016 12:04 PM (NOIQH)

The horde is the best. Stealing these points for when the topic's inevitably brought by some lib trying to rail about how horrible Trump is.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 29, 2016 12:07 PM (WuRdh)

90 Perfect response.

"Are you really gonna defend flag burning?"

I'm loving the look of this president more and more.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at November 29, 2016 12:07 PM (gWX5m)

91 >>Where people burn flags, they eventually burn joss.

Whedon? Ok.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2016 12:07 PM (/tuJf)

92 Note, until 1967 we not only COULD take your citizenship away, but it was illegal to be a dual Citizen.

This was changed by a 5-4 decision by the Supreme Court... effectively taking all questions of citizenship away from the Congress... even though that power is explicitly granted to Congress...

Almost every major social / legal screwup we have, can be laid at the feet, of the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Don Q. at November 29, 2016 12:07 PM (qf6WZ)

93 talk Melania into withholding the Barbarian and the Naughty Slave Girl sessions

I wouldn't mind indulging in a The Young Master and The Naughty Governess session right about now.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 29, 2016 12:08 PM (X6fMO)

94 This would be a good time for Trump to bring up that he has gone to court multiple times with zoning boards for flying flags that are too large. (One in Mar-a-Lago, the other in his California golf course).

Why is it constitutional to limit patriotism, but not an displays against it?

I mean, I'm pro free speech both ways but still.

Posted by: GrapeDrink at November 29, 2016 12:08 PM (MN2VM)

95 * Looks up, sighs *

What is it this time, Barry?

* Listens *

No, that's not what Sen. Warren is talking about.

* Listens, interrupts *

---Look, a "mandate" has nothing to do with you and Reggie. Why don't you go see if there's something on TV?

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at November 29, 2016 12:08 PM (77i7V)

96 link if you have time to waste: http://tinyurl.com/h9haxwz

Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 29, 2016 12:02 PM (2JQBv)

-----------------

Keith Olbermann opining on the sanity of anyone is rich.

Posted by: bluebell at November 29, 2016 12:08 PM (uHcnA)

97 If Cuomo wasn't such a dimwit I'd be worried. This is how Il Duce started out, - as a journalist, I mean.

Posted by: Fritz at November 29, 2016 12:09 PM (2Mnv1)

98 I think Trump likes to watch the usual suspects heads explode just as much as we do.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 29, 2016 12:09 PM (qJhUV)

99 90 Perfect response.

"Are you really gonna defend flag burning?"

I'm loving the look of this president more and more.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at November 29, 2016 12:07 PM (gWX5m)

Actually.... I'd change the 'troll' a bit...

Was the Flag made in America? Illegal to burn...

Made in China? OK then...

Then watch heads explode...

Posted by: Don Q. at November 29, 2016 12:09 PM (qf6WZ)

100 Sandra Lees silver Christmas Tree with matching silver cat.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jppe2jv

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 29, 2016 12:09 PM (P/aDH)

101 Cuomo almost makes me want to join Twitter so I can mock him. But then, that would be wrong since it's like mocking the mentally handicapped.

The media has gone full retard. I don't know why anyone would become a token guest for their ignorant rants.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2016 12:09 PM (lIH7u)

102 I hope no one here risked being arrested by going to Wikileaks.

*snerk*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:09 PM (PY9jH)

103 Trump has one thing no other president has ever had, the ability to ignore the media.

Plenty have had the media in their pocket, but none have ever made the media irrelevant.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at November 29, 2016 12:09 PM (gWX5m)

104 Eh, I wouldn't shed a tear for flag burners going to jail, but my libertarian impulses are against it. There should certainly be time, place and manner restrictions just like every other form of speech, and doing it in certain places or on certain days should be considered incitement. It varies from state to state, but I know in Ohio if you incite felony behavior you are yourself guilty of a felony.

Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at November 29, 2016 12:09 PM (d+yoB)

105 All the News that Fits the Narrative!

Current headlines "above the fold" on The New York Times homepage:

Editorial: Donald Trump's Lies About the Popular Vote
The Upshot: "Serious Voter Fraud"? Um, No
[Trump] Threatening Cuba Will Backfire
Could Trump Really Deport Millions of Illegal Immigrants?
This Week in Hate: Threats of an Anti-Muslim Holocaust
Sharp Critic of Health Law Is Said to Be Pick to Oversee It
Trump Vow to Bring Back Waterboarding Faces Steep Hurdles
Pessimistic, Very Pessimistic: Readers' Moods Darken After Election

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 29, 2016 12:10 PM (SIY7D)

106 The stupid on the left has metastasized thanks to Trump. It's hilarious seeing them try to process this. They realize that flag burning isn't a popular position, so their genius permutation in protest of Trump over this is... ready for it? burning the confederate flag!

I'm not joking. That's how they think they're going to get him on this. Because once he sees them burning the confederate flag, his true colors will be revealed! He won't be able to stop from unlawfully locking them up and see how racist he is!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 29, 2016 12:10 PM (KUaJL)

107 It's ok to use the power of the state to bully people as long as the targets are people you don't like. Executive power is good when the person using it has an "R" next to his name but is dangerous when he has a "D" next to it.

Posted by: rfichoke at November 29, 2016 12:11 PM (vLCft)

108 Progressives like Cuomo are in favor of the heckler's veto, criminalizing speech opposing the global warming theory, and the Columbia wrestling teams sexist musings.

Posted by: Uma Thurmond's Feet at November 29, 2016 12:11 PM (6rGey)

109 I've waited until 100 to post O/T
Any one know of a great Senior prank my daughter and her squad could pull on her HS? The best I've heard of so far: Some kids released 3 piglets into their school. They had spray painted on them #1, #2, #4 respectively.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 29, 2016 12:11 PM (ty7RM)

110 >> Almost every major social / legal screwup we have,
>> can be laid at the feet, of the Supreme Court.

So we need a No Fuckups Amendment to the Constitution?

Yeah, I agree that the Supreme Court's done all kinds of shit wrong, they've probably done as much if not more harm than Congress has.

And the court has the original sin of Taney.

But how do you fix that?

Posted by: Fake News LLC at November 29, 2016 12:11 PM (TppKb)

111 Why are you women so catty when it comes to Tablescaping?
Posted by: garrett at November 29, 2016 12:03 PM (MQZBa)
------------------

Not everyone can decorate with antlers, you know.

Posted by: bluebell at November 29, 2016 12:11 PM (uHcnA)

112 I thought we already had laws for arson.

Posted by: navybrat at November 29, 2016 12:11 PM (w7KSn)

113 Sandra Lees silver Christmas Tree with matching silver cat.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jppe2jv

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 29, 2016 12:09 PM (P/aDH)

Notice her initials in the tree. Still doesn't compare to the tree with all the wine glasses wired to it, topped with a nightmare inducing Nutcracker.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:11 PM (PY9jH)

114 What's the big deal? It's not like there is a rash of people disrespecting the flag going on. Even if it were illegal, how would it affect anyone when we have become so unified as a country over the past 8 years?

Posted by: ajmojo at November 29, 2016 12:11 PM (1H9ox)

115 WTF does he think it's a Rainbow Pride flag?

Posted by: Bigbys other phone at November 29, 2016 12:11 PM (85kAG)

116 I posted on the last thread in relation to this...
We have free speech in the US, DUH. Problem is that "hate" speech should be banned according to the left. In my opinion and the opinions of many many veterans like me flag burning is legal but is hate speech. I'm not hypocritical about this, burn the flag if you must, you just reveal yourself as my enemy. Fuck you. WAR.

Posted by: USNtakim at November 29, 2016 12:12 PM (hMqvx)

117 Vicente Fox: Fidel Castro Was an Authoritarian Leader Similar to Trump

????

Is Vincente Fox a chemist?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:12 PM (EbeEQ)

118 89 69 If you can be fined $150,000 for misgendering someone,there can be no argument for punishing flag burners.

Posted by: Jeff at November 29, 2016 12:03 PM (C5aJp)

Or how about we make them purchase a flag-burning permit for, say, $100 for the environment, you know?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 29, 2016 12:04 PM (NOIQH)

The horde is the best. Stealing these points for when the topic's inevitably brought by some lib trying to rail about how horrible Trump is.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 29, 2016 12:07 PM (WuRdh)

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Posted by: Don Q. at November 29, 2016 12:12 PM (qf6WZ)

119 >> Vicente Fox: Fidel Castro Was an Authoritarian Leader
>> Similar to Trump

No weather girls for you, Vicente. You asswipe.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 29, 2016 12:13 PM (DW+jj)

120 Aliyson Camerota, Cuomo's sidekick, is as crazy as he is. Since leaving Fox, she's letting her progtard flag fly.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:13 PM (PY9jH)

121 As Bette Davis said, buckle your seatbelts boys, it's gonna be a bumpy ride!

That reminds me of one of my favorite stories:

During WWII, almost all of the Hollywood stars who weren't in uniform would put in time at the Hollywood Canteen, either washing dishes, jerking sodas or, in the case of the female stars, dancing with lonely servicemen.

It so happened that one night a reporter caught up with a Marine who was standing on the edge of the dance floor, checking out the talent, and asked him what stars he was hoping to meet.

"Bette Davis," was the instant answer.

"Oh, she's your favorite?" the reporter asked.

"Nope," the Marine grinned. "I just hear she fucks like a mink!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 29, 2016 12:13 PM (X6fMO)

122 I believe Mario had a lot of anger in him due to his
guilt over his abortion support. My father got into it with him at a
parade back in the day over Mario's "personal opposition" to abortion.
My dad told him that many Nazi guards were personally opposed to gassing
Jews, but did it anyway and it was no excuse. Mario got a look of
anger I had never seen before and came back at my father screaming
while his bodyguards pulled him away. Hit a nerve as they say.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 29, 2016 12:06 PM (OD2ni)

As a citizen of NYS, I just want to say your dad is my new hero. Please thank him for me on behalf of thousands of upsate residents.The only way that story could be more awesome was if your dad had punched him out....

Posted by: Agent Cooper at November 29, 2016 12:13 PM (1zARK)

123
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Posted by: Don Q. at November 29, 2016 12:12 PM (qf6WZ)

And they have to pay for the local fire department to be present to ensure a controlled burn.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 29, 2016 12:13 PM (0mRoj)

124 117 Vicente Fox: Fidel Castro Was an Authoritarian Leader Similar to Trump

????

Is Vincente Fox a chemist?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:12 PM (EbeEQ)

I am not quite making it over that intellectual hill...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (92kX2)

125 "They had spray painted on them #1, #2, #4 respectively."

There was a small town in western Massachusetts during the 1940's, that only had two police cars. It was a small town, so no surprise there. They marked the cars "#5" and "#8."

Coincidentally, they had very little crime.

Posted by: Qoheleth at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (iIzG7)

126 Those who burn the American flag self-identify as anti-America. Kaepernick and his ilk are doing with the 'take a knee' act to disrespect America.

The flag does not represent the government, it represents the Citizens of America - all of us - the good.. and the bad like flag burners and Kaepernicks.

Posted by: DrDeano at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (cP8Yw)

127 It was a stupid gaffe by Trump.

I get the whole "let's trigger the right people" strategy but at some point you start wondering if you're also a target of the game.

For the record though, just about every politician of every stripe has waded into this dumb issue, even "super smart and level headed" George HW Bush proposed a silly Constitutional Amendment on flag burning.

Posted by: Maritime at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (g9iYn)

128 >>118
89 69 If you can be fined $150,000 for misgendering someone
Posted by: Jeff at November 29, 2016 12:03 PM (C5aJp)

$150,000? That's a small price to pay for medical-malpractice hilarity...

Posted by: General Zod at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (Bdeb0)

129 was it terrorism at OSU yesterday? Dunno

how about we do like they do: Moslem woman goes to college, claims someone tried to pull her scarf off while saying "Trump will fix you", she later admits she made the whole thing up... but it's important to remember that these things do happen and we need to fight hatred of (fill in the blank)

So let's say, well, we don't know if it was terrorism but it reminds us that terrorist attacks are real and we need to prepare to fight them.

Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (2JQBv)

130
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Posted by: Don Q. at November 29, 2016 12:12 PM (qf6WZ)

Oh, I'm sorry. The lighter you were going to use is a scary black assault lighter with the thing that goes up. You will have to use this tiny little bic instead. After all, nobody needs such a high capacity lighter for lawful purposes. .5 oz of butane is enough.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (KUaJL)

131 I don't like flag burning, but I find it interesting that no one is ever arrested for starting a fire in a public place.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (0tfLf)

132 Is Vincente Fox a chemist?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:12 PM (EbeEQ)

He's a former president of Coca-Cola.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (PY9jH)

133 107 It's ok to use the power of the state to bully people as long as the targets are people you don't like. Executive power is good when the person using it has an "R" next to his name but is dangerous when he has a "D" next to it.
Posted by: rfichoke
________

Actually, that's probably right. At least the mainstream media can be roused from its dreams of President Boyfriend.

Posted by: Furious George at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (77i7V)

134 >> 2 week waiting period to make sure they have
>> cooled down...

We only issue three flag-burning permits a month.

Carbon pollution, you know.

If you burn a flag without a permit the EPA will seize your assets.

Posted by: JEM at November 29, 2016 12:15 PM (TppKb)

135 119 >> Vicente Fox: Fidel Castro Was an Authoritarian Leader
>> Similar to Trump

No weather girls for you, Vicente. You asswipe.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 29, 2016 12:13 PM (DW+jj)

What a dumbfuck. Castro imprisoned, tortured and killed countless numbers of his fellow countrymen, and drove people to attempt dangerous, desperate escapes from his prison island. But Trump said "pussy," so, you know, they're the same.

Dumbfuck.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 29, 2016 12:15 PM (0mRoj)

136 "Alinksy, you magnificent bastard! I read your book!"

D. Trump

Rule 8 :" Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 29, 2016 12:15 PM (SIY7D)

137 Cuomo is all for his brothers attempt to criminalize global warming skepticism and trample the First Amendment. That's before we get to an actual subversion of the law by the other shenanigans.

But you know, criminalizing flag burning is just crazy talk.

Douche. Is that a dick in your mouth or are you just speaking ?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2016 12:15 PM (lIH7u)

138 So we need a No Fuckups Amendment to the Constitution?

Yeah, I agree that the Supreme Court's done all kinds of shit wrong, they've probably done as much if not more harm than Congress has.

And the court has the original sin of Taney.

But how do you fix that?

Posted by: Fake News LLC at November 29, 2016 12:11 PM (TppKb)

Currently there is no legal check to the power of the Supreme Court... no way to over ride their decisions..

One needs to be put in place...

I would suggest it 2/3rds of STATE Legislatures pass a bill over riding a Supreme Court Decision, it is over turned... (note, this is the same bar as a Constitutional Amendment)

Posted by: Don Q. at November 29, 2016 12:16 PM (qf6WZ)

139 Any one know of a great Senior prank my daughter and her squad could pull on her HS? The best I've heard of so far: Some kids released 3 piglets into their school. They had spray painted on them #1, #2, #4 respectively.

That's a classic and hard to beat.
Pro tip: let them loose in different areas. Not all at once in the same place.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 12:17 PM (sUwfN)

140 Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 29, 2016 12:15 PM (0mRoj)

Note... Vincente Fox is not the President of Mexico... he is an EX President...

He is what Obama will be to us... someone the Media gives an undeserved megaphone to...

Posted by: Don Q. at November 29, 2016 12:17 PM (qf6WZ)

141 If all the protesters did was burn flags they'd be more peaceful at least. Maybe he wants to channel their expressions into that

Posted by: Bigbys other phone at November 29, 2016 12:17 PM (85kAG)

142 126 Those who burn the American flag self-identify as anti-America. Kaepernick and his ilk are doing with the 'take a knee' act to disrespect America.

The flag does not represent the government, it represents the Citizens of America - all of us - the good.. and the bad like flag burners and Kaepernicks.
Posted by: DrDeano at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (cP8Yw)

Am I the only one who thinks taking a knee is kind of a mixed message. Kneeling is a sign of fealty or submission. One could argue, in a different context that to kneel during the anthem is actually paying it respect (although one could also argue that given American History and culture, we would not cotton to those kinds of display, but rather show respect by standing tall, with the head up.)

People are strange.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2016 12:17 PM (92kX2)

143 There was a small town in western Massachusetts during the 1940's, that only had two police cars. It was a small town, so no surprise there. They marked the cars "#5" and "#8."

That wouldn't be Stockbridge, would it?

Posted by: Arlo Guthrie at November 29, 2016 12:18 PM (X6fMO)

144 How about I just throat punch anyone who burns a flag?

I'll take the assault misdemeanor in return.

Watch how many people burn flags after they learn it may force them to eat meals through a straw in their neck for the remainder of their miserable, useless lives.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2016 12:18 PM (lIH7u)

145 "Kaepernick and his ilk are doing with the 'take a knee' act to disrespect America."

Kaepernick should take a knee.

Right straight to the nuts.

Posted by: Qoheleth at November 29, 2016 12:19 PM (iIzG7)

146
Note... Vincente Fox is not the President of Mexico... he is an EX President...

He is what Obama will be to us... someone the Media gives an undeserved megaphone to...
Posted by: Don Q. at November 29, 2016 12:17 PM (qf6WZ)

And every bit the belligerently pig-ignorant obnoxious stupid dumbfuck sucker of cock.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 29, 2016 12:19 PM (0mRoj)

147 Outlawing flag burning...unconstitutional perhaps.

Forcing every American to purchase and maintain a flag....maybe not so much....as long as it's a tax.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at November 29, 2016 12:19 PM (gWX5m)

148 130
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Posted by: Don Q. at November 29, 2016 12:12 PM (qf6WZ)

Oh, I'm sorry. The lighter you were going to use is a scary black assault lighter with the thing that goes up. You will have to use this tiny little bic instead. After all, nobody needs such a high capacity lighter for lawful purposes. .5 oz of butane is enough.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (KUaJL)

and a $500 carbon Tax for flag burning...

For the children....

Because... its a TAX....

Posted by: Don Q. at November 29, 2016 12:19 PM (qf6WZ)

149 I don't think that Trump is playing n-dimensional chess with the media here. The simplest explanation is most likely the right one.

Trump says things impulsively. He said that flag burning should be illegal because he thought that.

Lots of people think the same way. Some of us are free speech absolutists, but the average LIV doesn't have enough principles to stand up for something they don't like. So the media is now yelling about how totalitarian Trump is in an aspect that I'd wager way over half the counter would agree is ok to be totalitarian in. Because Trump is Wrong, according to the media, everything he says must be wrong, even the stuff that's popular.

In this instance, I happen to think he's wrong, but this isn't going to hurt him because I know i'm in the minority here.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 29, 2016 12:20 PM (KUaJL)

150 Posted by: Arlo Guthrie at November 29, 2016 12:18 PM (X6fMO)

Only if they had 27 8 by 10 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining how they were to be used as evidence against you.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 29, 2016 12:20 PM (0mRoj)

151 Isn't burning, in an appropriate fashion, an approved method of disposing of a damaged flag?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2016 12:20 PM (MiBfH)

152 Any one know of a great Senior prank my daughter and her squad could pull on her HS? The best I've heard of so far: Some kids released 3 piglets into their school. They had spray painted on them #1, #2, #4 respectively.

Classic!!!!

Far better than what I did ...put fertilizer on the school's front yard in the form of our year. It stood out for months.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2016 12:20 PM (0tfLf)

153 What about a college not wanting to fly one ?

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2016 12:21 PM (5sOEp)

154 >>Any one know of a great Senior prank my daughter and her squad could pull on her HS? The best I've heard of so far: Some kids released 3 piglets into their school. They had spray painted on them #1, #2, #4 respectively.

That's a great one but when it comes to pranks, nobody outdoes the nerds at MIT. These guys take pranks to a whole different level.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2016 12:21 PM (/tuJf)

155 Interesting co-sponsors you got there, "Flag Protection Act of 2005"...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_Protection_Act_of_2005

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 29, 2016 12:21 PM (e8+zH)

156 OSU Diversity Officer Scolds People Sharing Pic Of Dead Terrorist, People Should Think Of His Pain, Black Lives Matter

Weasel Zippers

I kid you not

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:21 PM (EbeEQ)

157 "That wouldn't be Stockbridge, would it?"

I have no independent recollection of that, Senator.

Oops -- wrong script. I meant to say, it may well have been Stockbridge. That story was told to me by my grandfather, when we lived in Chicopee.

Posted by: Qoheleth at November 29, 2016 12:22 PM (iIzG7)

158 Will they [the left] support my "right" to burn a mexican or islamic flag?

How about the right to religious liberty, if someone decides not to participate in a gay wedding by not baking a cake?

/though not

Posted by: willy at November 29, 2016 12:22 PM (Ffw22)

159 speaking of flags, what's the deal with the black-and-white-striped American flags, with one blue stripe? BLM? Election protest? I've seen a few lately...

Posted by: General Zod at November 29, 2016 12:22 PM (Bdeb0)

160 How can we (tangentially) discuss Sandra Lee without mentioning the Kwanzaa cake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we2iWTJqo98

Posted by: hogmartin at November 29, 2016 12:22 PM (8nWyX)

161 Isn't burning, in an appropriate fashion, an approved method of disposing of a damaged flag?

Yes. While chanting "Fuck America"? No.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 12:22 PM (sUwfN)

162 Isn't burning, in an appropriate fashion, an approved method of disposing of a damaged flag?

It is. We used to turn our old one over to the VFW and they would have a ceremony once a year and burn all that were turned in.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 29, 2016 12:23 PM (qJhUV)

163 156 OSU Diversity Officer Scolds People Sharing Pic Of Dead Terrorist, People Should Think Of His Pain, Black Lives Matter

Weasel Zippers

I kid you not
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:21 PM (EbeEQ)

That GFM cocksucker tried to kill eleven people for Allah. Fuck his "pain."

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 29, 2016 12:23 PM (0mRoj)

164
Isn't burning, in an appropriate fashion, an approved method of disposing of a damaged flag?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2016 12:20 PM (MiBfH)

Boy Scout troops do ceremonial flag "retirements," done very respectfully.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:23 PM (PY9jH)

165 156 OSU Diversity Officer Scolds People Sharing Pic Of Dead Terrorist, People Should Think Of His Pain, Black Lives Matter

Weasel Zippers

I kid you not

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:21 PM (EbeEQ)

To hell with banning/not banning flag burning.

Can we ban all diversity officers/officers/policies/claptrap?

Or at least withhold all federal funds to universities that employ such creatures?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 29, 2016 12:23 PM (WuRdh)

166 I would suggest it 2/3rds of STATE Legislatures pass a bill over riding a Supreme Court Decision, it is over turned... (note, this is the same bar as a Constitutional Amendment)
Posted by: Don Q. at November 29, 2016 12:16 PM (qf6WZ)

SCOTUS has gotten so used to being the Final Arbiter of All Things that I'll bet if this amendment were passed, it would somehow be declared "unconstitutional". Seriously.

Nobody ever gives up power voluntarily. Except for Augusto Pinochet. But he doesn't count, because he was a monster. I know this, because that's what th4e NY Times said.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 29, 2016 12:23 PM (PRtT5)

167

I am guessing -- without knowing -- that this has something to do with
Bridgegate, or simply noting that he's decided not to seek re-election
in 2017.
Eh, would Trump care about that? Probably not really.
---
Surely in 150 comments, someone's pointed out that Christie may be blowing up sufficiently that he's off the transition team, which Trump might care about.

"I share your feelings about flag burning scum" is probably the more likely explanation, though.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2016 12:23 PM (3Liv/)

168 "OSU Diversity Officer Scolds People Sharing Pic Of Dead Terrorist, People Should Think Of His Pain, Black Lives Matter "

I am thinking of his pain...and hoping there was plenty of it.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2016 12:23 PM (lIH7u)

169 I think this is a simple dual troll, as per @ClarkHat:

1) When the MFM raises a fuss, you can cite Hillary's bill
2) It's all but guaranteed to cause a temporary increase in idiot leftist demonstrators burning flags, which reinforces the idea that they're anti-American

Posted by: Ian S. at November 29, 2016 12:24 PM (3J/LN)

170 Another day of attention stolen from the Democrats.

*marks calendar*

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 29, 2016 12:24 PM (3myMJ)

171 speaking of flags, what's the deal with the black-and-white-striped American flags, with one blue stripe? BLM? Election protest? I've seen a few lately...

Thin blue line. Police officers. Ambushed officers.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 12:24 PM (sUwfN)

172 I hate with the white hot rage of a thousand suns the fact that any american would stoop to burning the flag or just intentionally disrespecting the flag. Americans have the right of free speech to do anything they want with the flag. Just because we have the right to it doesn't make it the good and proper thing to do. To many Americans have fought and died for that flag in peace and in war. How do we as a nation forget this.

Posted by: USNtakim at November 29, 2016 12:24 PM (hMqvx)

173 159 - the American flag with the blue stripe through it is in support of Blue Lives Matter. My neighbors have one and my kid has a sticker on his car with those stripes.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 29, 2016 12:24 PM (9U1OG)

174 158 Will they [the left] support my "right" to burn a mexican or islamic flag?

How about the right to religious liberty, if someone decides not to participate in a gay wedding by not baking a cake?

/though not
Posted by: willy at November 29, 2016 12:22 PM (Ffw22)

Try burning a rainbow flag and see how many of these wankers hold on to their new-found libertarian perspective on free speech.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 29, 2016 12:24 PM (0mRoj)

175 156 OSU Diversity Officer Scolds People Sharing Pic Of Dead Terrorist, People Should Think Of His Pain, Black Lives Matter

Weasel Zippers

I kid you not
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:21 PM (EbeEQ)

What the everloving f*ck

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at November 29, 2016 12:24 PM (/D5Lf)

176 156 OSU Diversity Officer Scolds People Sharing Pic Of Dead Terrorist, People Should Think Of His Pain, Black Lives Matter

Weasel Zippers

I kid you not
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:21 PM (EbeEQ)

Think of his pain? Actually, yeah. This guy's right. It is some small comfort to think that the terrorist probably felt a lot of pain before he died. Thanks diversity officer!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 29, 2016 12:24 PM (KUaJL)

177 I was raised by braindamaged leftists. I've lived through the past 8 years. This stuff doesn't even register with me anymore as something whose ramifications should be worried about.

The counterargument is usually, "but if you allow this, then the left will try to...". F*ck that STUPID argument. The left already has been trying to shut down free speech anyway. At this point it is idiotic to have scruples about fighting according to the rules, because the left has discarded all pretense in caring about rules or universally applicable moral principles. When you are faced with a lawless sociopathic adversary, it's perfectly moral to hobble them by any means. As a comparison, it's normally illegal to use lethal force, but if someone invades your home and threatens your life, it is perfectly acceptable. "Fair play" or "normal social conventions" doesn't enter into the picture.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 29, 2016 12:25 PM (OkKDg)

178 >> OSU Diversity Officer Scolds People Sharing Pic Of
>> Dead Terrorist, People Should Think Of His Pain,
>> Black Lives Matter

No student loans to any school that has a 'diversity officer'.

Posted by: JEM at November 29, 2016 12:25 PM (TppKb)

179 Nobody ever gives up power voluntarily. Except for Augusto Pinochet. But he doesn't count, because he was a monster. I know this, because that's what th4e NY Times said.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 29, 2016 12:23 PM (PRtT5)

Don't forget Cincinnatus!

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 29, 2016 12:25 PM (0mRoj)

180 156 OSU Diversity Officer Scolds People Sharing Pic Of Dead Terrorist, People Should Think Of His Pain, Black Lives Matter

Weasel Zippers

I kid you not
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:21 PM (EbeEQ)

Are you effing kidding me? What about the people he hurt-what about the fact he intended to KILL people??? Someone needs to be slapped upside the head.

Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at November 29, 2016 12:25 PM (VnCI9)

181 re 110: I would like to see a Constitutional amendment that would give the president and the Congress some ability to overturn Supreme Court rulings. No idea how it would read, but I think we need to get back to that idea of three co-equal branches of government.
by the way, there is a passage in the Constitution that give Congress the power to deny the Courts authority over a matter, but it's never been enforced.

Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 29, 2016 12:25 PM (2JQBv)

182 Yes. While chanting "Fuck America"? No.

Not to be picky, but that's spelled Amerikkka.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at November 29, 2016 12:26 PM (gWX5m)

183 It sounds like he directed that statement to non- citizens. And I agree with him, you burn our flag, you will find yourself on the next bus/boat/ plane out of here.

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 29, 2016 12:26 PM (WCfRV)

184 What about a college not wanting to fly one ?

Posted by: Skip

Good point. And sense the flag is so objectionable, then the dollar must be doubly so. It even has In God We Trust written on it. Clearly such schools would not be willing to accept such objectionable money from the government. So the only right thing to do is cut them off.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2016 12:26 PM (0tfLf)

185 That's a great one but when it comes to pranks, nobody outdoes the nerds at MIT. These guys take pranks to a whole different level.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2016 12:21 PM (/tuJf)

Yeah, like the time a team of merry pranksters switched the contents of the rooms and offices of two entire floors in one of their buildings, and rewired the elevator buttons accordingly. Supposedly it was several weeks before anybody noticed.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 29, 2016 12:27 PM (PRtT5)

186 The victims in the hospitals in Ohio should release pictures of their wounds. Just their wounds, close up.

There's some diversity for you, bastard.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 29, 2016 12:27 PM (3myMJ)

187 It is. We used to turn our old one over to the VFW and they would have a ceremony once a year and burn all that were turned in.
Posted by: tu3031
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Here at Ft. Hammer, we wear out about one flag/year. A local Boy Scout Troop holds a ceremony each year to properly dispose of collected flags.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,. etc. at November 29, 2016 12:27 PM (CxB0h)

188
Try burning a rainbow flag and see how many of these wankers hold on to their new-found libertarian perspective on free speech.
Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000

Easy; claim that you're a mohammadan.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 29, 2016 12:27 PM (326rv)

189 >>Thin blue line. Police officers. Ambushed officers. Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 12:24 PM (sUwfN)

Thanks--I thought the worst. Good to know.

Posted by: General Zod at November 29, 2016 12:27 PM (Bdeb0)

190 174 Try burning a rainbow flag and see how many of these wankers hold on to their new-found libertarian perspective on free speech.
Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 29, 2016 12:24 PM (0mRoj)

Exactly!

For tolerance and inclusiveness, I want to see some of these idiot leftists go to cuber, burn a cuban flag, and chant/scream "down with tyranny" ..see how it works for them

Posted by: willy at November 29, 2016 12:28 PM (Ffw22)

191 "OSU Diversity Officer Scolds People Sharing Pic Of Dead Terrorist, People Should Think Of His Pain, Black Lives Matter "

CNN did a whole slobbering piece on the terrorist trying to gain sympathy. They see the diversity corpse is leaving the building.

Not a word on the victims. Just a lot of fake alllusions that it's really our fault we were not more "welcoming".

How about this. Fuck that loser terrorist bitch.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2016 12:28 PM (lIH7u)

192 Pessimistic, Very Pessimistic: Readers' Moods Darken After Election
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 29, 2016 12:10 PM (SIY7D)

Heh ..... at (D)emocRAT Underground.

Posted by: Deplorable 98ZJUSMC at November 29, 2016 12:29 PM (MHq1d)

193 How can we (tangentially) discuss Sandra Lee without mentioning the Kwanzaa cake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we2iWTJqo98

Posted by: hogmartin at November 29, 2016 12:22 PM (8nWyX)

HAHAHAHAHA! Never gets old. She calls the corn nuts she "decorates" the "kake" with, "acorns." One of the comments: "Now I know why Black Lives Matter is a thing."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:29 PM (PY9jH)

194 "I would like to see a Constitutional amendment that would give the
president and the Congress some ability to overturn Supreme Court
rulings. No idea how it would read..."

"Amendment: No determination of the Supreme Court shall operate with the force of law beyond two years from the date of the Court's decision, unless both houses of Congress shall enact a statute prior to the expiration of the two years codifying the Court's decision. If Cogress does not choose to enact such a law, then the original decision shall not be citable in any subsequent cases before the Court."

Posted by: Qoheleth at November 29, 2016 12:29 PM (iIzG7)

195 Johnny Ola told me about this place.

Posted by: Chris Cuomo at November 29, 2016 11:51 AM (OD2ni)

That's an awesome reference in an 11th dimensional chess sort of way.

Posted by: troyriser at November 29, 2016 12:29 PM (OGbEB)

196 Only the alt-right is against burning the flag.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 29, 2016 12:29 PM (1H9ox)

197 129 was it terrorism at OSU yesterday? Dunno

how about we do like they do: Moslem woman goes to college, claims someone tried to pull her scarf off while saying "Trump will fix you", she later admits she made the whole thing up... but it's important to remember that these things do happen and we need to fight hatred of (fill in the blank)

So let's say, well, we don't know if it was terrorism but it reminds us that terrorist attacks are real and we need to prepare to fight them.

Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (2JQBv)

Or we just call it terrorism. Because that's what it was.

Posted by: buzzion at November 29, 2016 12:29 PM (bMG0w)

198 172 I hate with the white hot rage of a thousand suns the fact that any American would stoop to burning the flag or just intentionally disrespecting the flag. Americans have the right of free speech to do anything they want with the flag. Just because we have the right to it doesn't make it the good and proper thing to do. To many Americans have fought and died for that flag in peace and in war. How do we as a nation forget this?
Posted by: USNtakim at November 29, 2016 12:24 PM (hMqvx)

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You're welcome.

Posted by: Dept of Education at November 29, 2016 12:30 PM (CRotO)

199 (singing) Everybody doesn't like something, but nobody really likes Sandra Lee!

Posted by: Advo at November 29, 2016 12:30 PM (Ms4Um)

200 Let's burn some Mexican flags and see what happens

Posted by: Yo! at November 29, 2016 12:31 PM (GwIKd)

201 Trump's Tweet is going to spark a firestorm of flag burning, to be covered and defended by the mfm, which will further the growing contempt for all things leftist in the country.

Posted by: davidt at November 29, 2016 12:07 PM (XoldI)

Good point. He is maneuvering the leftards into making themselves persona non grata amongst the middle and soft left.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2016 12:31 PM (MiBfH)

202 Eh, I think Trump's just going with his gut here, although politically it makes sense to further divide his supporters from the Democrats who will be forced to defend the act in the hedging way they do. It makes the Trump party the American party, and the opposition something other (of course, except for the fact that most of the Republicans asked so far have said that it's a protected First Amendment activity).

But it's not smart in the context of knowing he'll soon be making at least one appointment to SCOTUS, and you can be sure that the questions about flag burning are already in the hopper because of Trump's tweet.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 29, 2016 12:31 PM (y/9kR)

203 "Amendment: No determination of the Supreme Court shall operate with the
force of law beyond two years from the date of the Court's decision,
unless both houses of Congress shall enact a statute prior to the
expiration of the two years codifying the Court's decision. If Cogress
does not choose to enact such a law, then the original decision shall
not be citable in any subsequent cases before the Court."
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Apply it retroactively two and a half centuries, and you may just have something.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2016 12:31 PM (3Liv/)

204 Pessimistic, Very Pessimistic: Readers' Moods Darken After Election

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 29, 2016 12:10 PM (SIY7D)

Every time I read about how sad NY Times readers are, my mood becomes brighter and happier.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 29, 2016 12:31 PM (u0lmX)

205 I'm pretty sure that Chris Cuomo and the rest of his flag burning brethren would demand prosecution and long prison terms for anyone who burned the Mexican flag

Posted by: kbdabear at November 29, 2016 12:32 PM (Ya7zs)

206 I do get a little tired of the meme that everything Trump does is some kind of gut-level reaction to something that someone else said or did,

as if he'd incapable of higher thought and strategic planning.

Cuz if that's the case, Trump has the smartest gut evah!

Intellectual intestines or some such thing.

If so, after Trump's 8 years as President-

I suggest we remove his gut and install it in a very classy and YUUUGE gold robot with a cartoon raccoon
or honey badger's smiling face-

and run it for President under the monicker

Rightway Raccoon

or

Honest J. Honeybadger.

When Trump's Gut wins, we'd have 8 more years of 90-95% correct decisions.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 29, 2016 12:32 PM (vZ9Fw)

207 Yeah, like the time a team of merry pranksters switched the contents of the rooms and offices of two entire floors in one of their buildings, and rewired the elevator buttons accordingly. Supposedly it was several weeks before anybody noticed.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 29, 2016 12:27 PM (PRtT5)

No one takes the stairs.

Posted by: buzzion at November 29, 2016 12:32 PM (bMG0w)

208 200
Let's burn some Mexican flags and see what happens

Posted by: Yo! at November 29, 2016 12:31 PM (GwIKd)
And rainbow flags. Oh, and do it while flying the Rebel flag.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 29, 2016 12:32 PM (jxbfJ)

209 I think the Chaplinsky Rule was actually a little known Russian law passed during The Great Patriotic War that banned silent movie actors from wearing those little toothbrush mustaches like Hitler had.

Or I'm full of shit. That could be it, too.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 29, 2016 12:32 PM (CS7jF)

210 Let's burn an Islamic flag and see the firestorm. No pun intended.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:32 PM (PY9jH)

211 How can they defend the anti-American alt-left?

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at November 29, 2016 12:32 PM (gWX5m)

212 "DO NOT SHARE THIS POST"

Want to guarantee your shitshow of a post is shared...that's how you do it.

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at November 29, 2016 12:33 PM (fWAjv)

213 "Apply it retroactively two and a half centuries, and you may just have something."

And THAT'S why you should elect me President. I'm Qoheleth, and I approve this comment.

Posted by: Qoheleth at November 29, 2016 12:33 PM (iIzG7)

214 I don't care for images that try to copy the the flag in totality it seems disrespectful to me. I know it's not meant that way, but the urge to wrap a cause in the flag should be resisted. I agree with the "thin blue line" crowd but do not care for the use of the flag to make their point.

Posted by: USNtakim at November 29, 2016 12:33 PM (hMqvx)

215 Just because you have a constitutional right to do something doesn't mean you should do it. Burning the American flag, above all else, conveys the message that you're a flaming asshole. Anything else gets lost in translation.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 29, 2016 12:34 PM (SIY7D)

216 12 But if I burned a rainbow flag, I'd be committing a hate crime.

Posted by: josephistan at November 29, 2016 11:53 AM (7HtZB)

Yeah this. i want the f*cking rainbow back dammit. And the word gay. I want it to mean happy again!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 29, 2016 12:34 PM (APrym)

217 speaking of flags, what's the deal with the black-and-white-striped American flags, with one blue stripe? BLM? Election protest? I've seen a few lately...

Posted by: General Zod at November 29, 2016 12:22 PM (Bdeb0)

I saw that flying on my idiot neighbor's house. I don't know what it is, either.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 29, 2016 12:34 PM (X6fMO)

218 So no one's yet seen fit to comment on Trump buying off Mitch McConnell?

In our government as it's currently constituted it's probably necessary.

Not that it's RIGHT, just NECESSARY.

Posted by: JEM at November 29, 2016 12:34 PM (TppKb)

219 "AllahPundit notes..."

Stop right there. I realize you still care, Ace, but a lot of us have long since stopped caring about whatever comes next in that quote.

Yeah, if the left wants to push this flag-burning thing, we won't be talking about Constitutional protections, we'll be talking about who is responsible for the blood, and those types of debates don't get settled without more blood.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2016 12:34 PM (TOk1P)

220 Althouse linked to a story about a Trump "thank-you" tour. One of her commenters suggested that this might be the reason for the tweet: to encourage the anti-Trump left to show up and burn flags in protest where all the cameras can see them.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 29, 2016 12:34 PM (FYrz1)

221 217 speaking of flags, what's the deal with the black-and-white-striped American flags, with one blue stripe? BLM? Election protest? I've seen a few lately...

Posted by: General Zod at November 29, 2016 12:22 PM (Bdeb0)

I saw that flying on my idiot neighbor's house. I don't know what it is, either.

Thin Blue Line flag. It's pro Police.

Posted by: GrapeDrink at November 29, 2016 12:35 PM (mvBTB)

222 Johnny Ola told me about this place.
Posted by: Chris Cuomo at November 29, 2016 11:51 AM (OD2ni)

He said Soledad O'Brien works there.

Posted by: Fredo Corleone at November 29, 2016 12:35 PM (qJhUV)

223 He almost seems like Br'er Rabbit on this.

"I just named two cabinet members that will help us overturn Obamacare. Can we talk about that? Just please, whatever you do, don't make me talk about flag burning!"

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at November 29, 2016 12:35 PM (gWX5m)

224 No one takes the stairs.
Posted by: buzzion at November 29, 2016 12:32 PM (bMG0w)

No, those pasty white couch potatoes at MIT usually take the elevators.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 29, 2016 12:35 PM (PRtT5)

225 I think a great senior class prank would be to have the cheerleaders run nekid through the lunchroom at high noon.
Think yearbook photos folks.

Posted by: teej at November 29, 2016 12:35 PM (JEx0Z)

226 Trump is the only reason I hope Twitter doesn't go bankrupt soon.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 29, 2016 12:36 PM (1H9ox)

227 So the left tries to stop some dummy in Florida from burning a Koran because of all the outrage doing it will cause. But "Shut up and take it" regarding burning the flag.

I'd say I'm shocked but we all know that's not true.

Posted by: buzzion at November 29, 2016 12:36 PM (bMG0w)

228 Obviously unconstitutional but then so are so many of our laws so I guess why not. It rallies his base at very little cost to trump.

Posted by: SH at November 29, 2016 12:36 PM (otLn5)

229 Seems like setting fire to anything in a public place should already be covered by arson laws.

Posted by: Lauren at November 29, 2016 12:36 PM (IKxp6)

230 How canthey defend the anti-American Alt-Left?
A bit like asking them to defend themselves isnt it?

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2016 12:36 PM (5sOEp)

231 AllahPander is probably wrong anyway (shocka!)

Maybe not Eleventy Dimensional Chess, but there is always some method to Trump's madness. This I have learned.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 29, 2016 12:36 PM (WlGX+)

232 So no one's yet seen fit to comment on Trump buying off Mitch McConnell?
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I don't know about everyone else, but I'm waiting to see whether that means the filibuster is toast.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2016 12:36 PM (3Liv/)

233 180 156 OSU Diversity Officer Scolds People Sharing Pic Of Dead Terrorist, People Should Think Of His Pain, Black Lives Matter "

Too bad the "Diversity Officer" wasn't there within knifepoint of the scumbag yesterday. It wouldn't be the scumbag's pain he'd be thinking about.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 29, 2016 12:36 PM (u0lmX)

234 >>Yeah, like the time a team of merry pranksters switched the contents of the rooms and offices of two entire floors in one of their buildings, and rewired the elevator buttons accordingly. Supposedly it was several weeks before anybody noticed.

They've done so many over the years it's hard to pick a favorite but I've always been partially to the giant ballon they hid under Harvard football stadium. It was during the annual Harvard Yale game which is a huge rivalry and packed to the rafters with students and alumni of both schools.

Somehow, they managed to not only bury a giant ballon with with MIT all over it but they waited until the middle of the game and then inflated it. It rose out of the ground like some giant black death star and then exploded.

Funny as shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2016 12:36 PM (/tuJf)

235 This is one of those unforced dumb things that Trump does, but at the same time, now everyone's paying attention to him so in a Reality Show idiocracy, probably not harming him at all. The press is so ignorant of basic civics -- or so used to Obama violating the constitution -- that they aren't aware Trump can't simply make laws up on the fly, apparently.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2016 12:37 PM (39g3+)

236 217 speaking of flags, what's the deal with the black-and-white-striped American flags, with one blue stripe? BLM? Election protest? I've seen a few lately...

Posted by: General Zod at November 29, 2016 12:22 PM (Bdeb0)

I saw that flying on my idiot neighbor's house. I don't know what it is, either.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 29, 2016 12:34 PM (X6fMO)

It's for fallen officers

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at November 29, 2016 12:37 PM (/D5Lf)

237 OSU "Resident Life" staffer apologizes for terrorist, says he was still a member of the Buckeye family. And don't show a photo of his body or you're so getting unfriended.

http://tinyurl.com/zpyu7xm

Posted by: josephistan at November 29, 2016 12:37 PM (7HtZB)

238 "People Should Think Of His Pain, Black Lives Matter "

Hm. My give a shit meter seems to be broken.

Posted by: Lauren at November 29, 2016 12:38 PM (IKxp6)

239 "So the left tries to stop some dummy in Florida from burning a Koran..."

Imagine what they would have done to Ann Barnhardt -- reading from several passages of the Koran, using bacon strips as bookmarks. That one is going down in history.

Posted by: Qoheleth at November 29, 2016 12:38 PM (iIzG7)

240 Althouse linked to a story about a Trump "thank-you" tour. One of her commenters suggested that this might be the reason for the tweet: to encourage the anti-Trump left to show up and burn flags in protest where all the cameras can see them.

You know this is actually very plausible to me.

Not 11 dimension chess, just living in their little pointy heads.

Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2016 12:38 PM (qUNWi)

241 >> "I just named two cabinet members that will help us
>> overturn Obamacare. Can we talk about that? Just
>> please, whatever you do, don't make me talk about
>> flag burning!"

The flag-burning thing is misdirection.

It's "Look, I hate what these people are doing" but no one (sane) ever expects criminal sanction for it no matter what he says.

And it makes the usual hoo-hahs on the other side jump up and down for a while and make themselves annoying.

Trump really needs to just say "When I tweet a smiley can you idiots all get red-faced for a while so we can hate you more?"

Posted by: JEM at November 29, 2016 12:38 PM (TppKb)

242 I think a neat high school prank would be to successfully awaken and summon Cthulhu to the lunch-room at high noon for a little sanity-harvesting.

Posted by: General Zod at November 29, 2016 12:38 PM (Bdeb0)

243 I saw that flying on my idiot neighbor's house. I don't know what it is, either.
Thin Blue Line flag. It's pro Police.
Posted by: GrapeDrink at November 29, 2016 12:35 PM (mvBTB)

Yes. From an ijr article:

According to Flags Unlimited, the significance of the flag's colors is this:

The Blue represents the officer and the courage they find deep inside when faced with insurmountable odds. The Black background was designed as a constant reminder of our fallen brother and sister officers.

Thin Blue Line USA has more details on the line itself:

The Thin Blue Line represents the relationship of the police in the community as the protectors of the citizenry from the criminal element.

It represents those men and women that are willing to give their life for the peace and harmony of the community they serve. To be an officer, it is no easy task. Everyday brings on new challenges, yet new opportunities do arise.

You make arrests, patrol the streets, and do what no other citizen will ever do. You are the Thin Blue Line that will always stand strong, united, and exhibit true strength from within.

The line featured on the flag is a concept that has been around since 1988.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 29, 2016 12:39 PM (PRtT5)

244 Trump is non-ideological.

I have said over and over - he operates on a different political axis than we are used to. He doesn't go Left-Right, he goes American/anti-American.

Posted by: blaster at November 29, 2016 12:39 PM (stTTh)

245 Last time I cared about something said off-the-cuff by a President, somebody said I could keep my health care.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 29, 2016 12:39 PM (GX63o)

246 Let's see what happens when flag-burning becomes a standard feature at every single anti-Trump "demonstration" on college campuses across the land.

And let's see how it plays in Washington, at the inauguration, when flag-burnings are used in anti-Trump parties on inauguration eve, and the next day.

I want the MFM to "celebrate" all this, with their descriptions using "mostly peaceful," and "dissent."

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 29, 2016 12:39 PM (U6f54)

247
I hate 11th dimensional chess. The people playing it are supposed to look like they're not playing it and spectators are left to guess whether they're playing it or not, which means it's just a guessing game and not really a game at all.

It's all so meta and boring.

Posted by: troyriser at November 29, 2016 12:39 PM (OGbEB)

248 Sloppy analogy and analysis.

Defense of Trump=The defense of Bush.

First, Trump isn't even President yet. Hate Bush or like Bush--people could follow the logic of Bush.

Bush was a sitting war time President during the most devastating attack on the USA CONUS. And, during a new era of terrorism that didn't follow previous nation state norms.

You've borrowed a lot of enemies for Trump. Mitt Romney Republicans, Bush Republicans, Cruz Republicans, Reagan Republicans.

That brings up another point. Bush was attacked for being a RINO because of spending. Spending to get the nation back on track after the devastation of 9/11 and two of the worst national disasters. He also did a pharmaceutical benefit and that was to try to keep seniors on board and voting Republican during a war but also as a compromise to stave off HillaryCare which later morphed into ObamaCare.

In fact many of the same bloggers extolled the wins of supposed Jacksonian Democrats--ala Jim Webb because everyone stupidly believed that Democrats suddenly cared about deficits--Jim Webb never once stood up against any of Obama's Cash for Clunkers or multibillion dollar stimulus plans--he should go down as one of the biggest liars in current history.

Now Trump's Organization is telling people that he has a huge infrastructure spending plan and that was hardly debated during the primary. In fact when spending ideas were talked about on the campaign trail by Trump--he would get upset that people didn't cheer enough and then tell them if they didn't cheer louder he might not spend money on their local infrastructure.

The Trump Organization is telling everyone it is now--The Trump Party.

What does that get you? The guy is old--once he dies what happens?

Does it get you a Cult of Personality like Obama's?

How did that work out for Obama? The Democrat party is decimated. The Democrats got rid of--and refused to work with Blue Dog Democrats. That didn't work out too well now did it?

The Trump Organization--while history does not repeat itself--it does rhyme--and they are making almost the same pattern of mistakes.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at November 29, 2016 12:39 PM (fi5nC)

249 Incidentally I oppose outlawing flag burning. Freedom has to include things I don't like or find offensive, as long as they don't violate other rights. Nobody has a right to avoid seeing a flag burned.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2016 12:39 PM (39g3+)

250 233
180 156 OSU Diversity Officer Scolds People Sharing Pic Of Dead Terrorist, People Should Think Of His Pain, Black Lives Matter "

Too bad the "Diversity Officer" wasn't there within knifepoint of
the scumbag yesterday. It wouldn't be the scumbag's pain he'd be
thinking about.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 29, 2016 12:36 PM (u0lmX)

Share that pic - everywhere. It is a message to any other jihadist-wannabe. Pain? His pain? I don't even care how uncomfortable he is with satan's barbed "unit" tickling him in his special place.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 29, 2016 12:40 PM (jxbfJ)

251 I think a great senior class prank would be to have the cheerleaders run nekid through the lunchroom at high noon.
Think yearbook photos folks.

Posted by: teej at November 29, 2016 12:35 PM (JEx0Z)

http://bit.ly/2gFt3Wu

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 29, 2016 12:40 PM (X6fMO)

252 speaking of flags, what's the deal with the black-and-white-striped American flags, with one blue stripe? BLM? Election protest? I've seen a few lately...

Posted by: General Zod at November 29, 2016 12:22 PM (Bdeb0)

I saw one of those, too, can't remember precisely where, just in the last few days.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2016 12:40 PM (MiBfH)

253 By the way this Stephanie Thompson the OSU diveristy asshole is everything you'd imagine.

https://housing.osu.edu/people/stephanie-clemons-thompson/

Because BLM? LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:42 PM (EbeEQ)

254 The Thin Blue Line represents the relationship of the police in the community as the protectors of the citizenry from the criminal element.

That's where they have it backwards.

That thin blue line is what saves a pedophiles ass from being fed into a wood chipper.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 12:42 PM (sUwfN)

255 Why do people think this was a gaffe or stupid? What negative repercussions will come of it?
Is it because it will somehow make Trump look stupid? Doubt it. Is it because it will make him seem totalitarian? Sure...to the left.
I don't really see the downside. He's saying what 97% of the guys hanging at the VFW or the women running the church social think. And I'd take advice from any random one of them before I would some CNBCMSNBC dipshit.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 29, 2016 12:42 PM (1H9ox)

256 Chris, I think unconstitutional and would oppose, but I don't think it is dumb for trump to raise it. It's a popular issue especially with his base. Seems like a smart firestorm if you ask me.

Posted by: SH at November 29, 2016 12:42 PM (otLn5)

257 249
Incidentally I oppose outlawing flag burning. Freedom has to include things I don't like or find offensive, as long as they don't violate other rights. Nobody has a right to avoid seeing a flag burned.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2016 12:39 PM (39g3+)

Agreed. If he is serious, he is wrong. If it is a typical outrageous Trump comment designed to invoke investigation and interest, he seems to have given all the right people the vapors.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 29, 2016 12:42 PM (GX63o)

258 Seriously, I like that the Donald speaks his mind but a lot of this stuff is off the top of his head. People really need to talk to him about this.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at November 29, 2016 12:42 PM (RD7QR)

259 Sharp Critic of Health Law Is Said to Be Pick to Oversee It

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 29, 2016 12:10 PM (SIY7D)

Oversee? Oh-vir-SEE. OH-versy. That's a funny word. It's fun to say.

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at November 29, 2016 12:43 PM (zke7T)

260 One thing the flag burning debate has done...

It's delayed the proclamation that Price and Chai are obviously alt-right white supremacists.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at November 29, 2016 12:43 PM (gWX5m)

261 One of her commenters suggested that this might be the reason for the tweet: to encourage the anti-Trump left to show up and burn flags in protest where all the cameras can see them.

Frankly it wouldn't surprise me if that happened now, but I really don't think Donald Trump is that subtle. I think he just fires off the first thing that occurs to him because he's DONALD TRUMP so what he thinks is terribly fascinating to everyone.

The Trump Organization is telling everyone it is now--The Trump Party.

What does that get you? The guy is old--once he dies what happens?

I agree, and I agree with the Bush analogy. What works for Donald Trump really only works for him, and you can't build a movement or party around that. He's the candidate of the nation yelling F--- YOU at the left and the establishment, and that's fine as far as it goes.

But its nothing to build a future on. We have to hope that while he has the reins he can steer the nation somewhere less catastrophic in the process, and maybe we can rebuild from the basis of that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2016 12:43 PM (39g3+)

262 Thin blue line. Police officers. Ambushed officers.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 12:24 PM (sUwfN)

Ah. Thank you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2016 12:43 PM (MiBfH)

263 That thin blue line is what saves a pedophiles ass from being fed into a wood chipper.

Ain't it a great country?

Posted by: Harry Reid at November 29, 2016 12:43 PM (X6fMO)

264 It's Trump spouting off as he is wont to do. I voted for him and I'll have to live with it.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at November 29, 2016 12:43 PM (J70i0)

265 How did that work out for Obama? The Democrat party is decimated. The Democrats got rid of--and refused to work with Blue Dog Democrats. That didn't work out too well now did it?

The Trump Organization--while history does not repeat itself--it does rhyme--and they are making almost the same pattern of mistakes.
Posted by: Danube River Guide

Obama and the dems went left, exposing the blue dog democrats and leaving them to bear the brunt of the negative reaction.

The republican party was already more of a ruling party that was also going left, ad episodically talking right.

Trump may or may not be doing what you claim; but he isn't taking the party farther left, not yet anyway.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 29, 2016 12:43 PM (326rv)

266 This is one of those unforced dumb things that Trump does, but at the same time, now everyone's paying attention to him so in a Reality Show idiocracy, probably not harming him at all. The press is so ignorant of basic civics -- or so used to Obama violating the constitution -- that they aren't aware Trump can't simply make laws up on the fly, apparently.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2016 12:37 PM (39g3+)

Ever notice how all of these "dumb, unforced errors" Trump makes all seem to either (a) suck all the oxygen from whatever narrative the Democrats are currently trying to push and/or (b) make the Democrats look stupid?

Ever notice that?

I don't think it's stupid at all. I think Trump is a master troll who knows the MSM/Democrat complex better than they know themselves. He knows exactly where and how to push their buttons so they'll walk off a cliff.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 29, 2016 12:43 PM (PRtT5)

267 >>The most obvious explanation (which Allah notes) is that Trump saw something on "the shows" about flag-burning, decided he didn't like it on a purely gut level, and tossed out his tweet to the world.

That might be true but this is not the first time Trump has brought the flag into his campaign and watched the media mock him. He was known to hug the flag during his rallies to great mocking from Colbert to Mediate.

I do think Trump likes to set the agenda with some of his statements. It's possible that he doesn't know that burning the flag has been decided as lawful by the SC over a decade ago but given his actions including going to court over displaying the flag and 1st Amendment rights I'd be surprised.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2016 12:43 PM (/tuJf)

268 How can we (tangentially) discuss Sandra Lee without mentioning the Kwanzaa cake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we2iWTJqo98
Posted by: hogmartin at November 29, 2016 12:22 PM (8nWyX)

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That is the most disgusting cake I have ever seen, bar none.

Posted by: bluebell at November 29, 2016 12:44 PM (uHcnA)

269 Incidentally I oppose outlawing flag burning. Freedom has to include things I don't like or find offensive, as long as they don't violate other rights.

As long as it's their flag. Try and burn mine and I'll gut you like a carp.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 12:44 PM (sUwfN)

270 Seriously, I like that the Donald speaks his mind but a lot of this stuff is off the top of his head. People really need to talk to him about this.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at November 29, 2016 12:42 PM (RD7QR)

I'll ask the Boss to talk to him...oh wait? Never mind

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:44 PM (EbeEQ)

271 The blue-line flag is pro-police.

Burning the flag is !by definition! not protected by the constitution.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 29, 2016 12:44 PM (VdICR)

272 Flag burning is OK, I guess but I prefer Mexican weather girl hooters.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 29, 2016 12:44 PM (Nwg0u)

273 My laymans legal theory is that flag burning on public property is an incitement to riot. I also believe you don't have the right to burn a cross on public property for the same reason. It's yelling fire in a crowded theater. I understand those that even disagree with that limitation.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 29, 2016 12:45 PM (AEEhl)

274 My favorite MIT hack: dismantling a car, carrying the pieces up into a belltower one by one without being detected, and rebuilding it over the course of a single night. Engineers ALWAYS have the best pranks.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at November 29, 2016 12:45 PM (RD7QR)

275 Crom approves the self-immolation of the flag-wrapped. Burning the flag without a flesh-offering is cheap and forbidden.

Posted by: General Zod at November 29, 2016 12:45 PM (Bdeb0)

276 It's a popular issue especially with his base. Seems like a smart firestorm if you ask me.

I agree, I don't think this hurts him any. Its making his opponents look increasingly hysterical so when he's not the horrific Nazi dictator they scream about, they look even stupider than before.

Or, maybe they're right and he's a tyrant in waiting. I dunno. It seems extremely unlikely, but my crystal ball is broken.

We'll see.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2016 12:45 PM (39g3+)

277 I agree, and I agree with the Bush analogy. What works for Donald Trump really only works for him, and you can't build a movement or party around that. He's the candidate of the nation yelling F--- YOU at the left and the establishment, and that's fine as far as it goes.

But its nothing to build a future on. We have to hope that while he has the reins he can steer the nation somewhere less catastrophic in the process, and maybe we can rebuild from the basis of that.

he's showing them what works, and what doesn't. He can lead them to water. If they choose not to drink, tat isn't Trump's fault.

He called out Stephanopolus; not any of the professional Stupid Party. He flipped three states that obama won twice.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 29, 2016 12:46 PM (326rv)

278 haven't there been incidents where a school forbid students to wear American flag t-shirts on Cinco de Quatro (as the smartest president ever put it) because such a shirt might offend one or more students of Mexican heritage.
Would it be ok for descendants of Montezuma to burn an American flag and a Mexican flag on such occasions..?

Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 29, 2016 12:46 PM (2JQBv)

279 What's the difference between burning a Flag on a lawn and Burning a Cross?

Serious question

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:46 PM (EbeEQ)

280 Danube River Guide,

I keep hearing about this Trump Cult of Personality,

yet I have yet to see any evidence of said cult.

Please provide examples of Trump's Cult of Personality that parallel Obama's.

Thx.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 29, 2016 12:46 PM (vZ9Fw)

281 Whatever happens these next four years, we won't be bored.

Posted by: josephistan at November 29, 2016 12:46 PM (7HtZB)

282 You have right to burn American flag. Veteran has right to beat you senseless. I have right to acquit him from the juror box.

Posted by: SH at November 29, 2016 12:46 PM (otLn5)

283 Allahpundit has been utterly and laughingly wrong on everything to do with Trump this entire last year and a half. Nothing happened to make him any smarter or provide insight into Trump now. Why anyone still reads him, much less quotes him, is beyond me.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 29, 2016 12:47 PM (NLny5)

284 I'm sitting back here, reading the comments as they go by, and thinking about how much I can entertain myself with an American flag, a Gadsden flag, a Gonzales flag, a rebel flag, and a dozen claymores.

Like a spectator sport.

Posted by: Qoheleth at November 29, 2016 12:47 PM (iIzG7)

285 Flag burning is OK, I guess but I prefer Mexican weather girl hooters.

Romanian weather girls are no slouch, either:

http://bit.ly2ggbuiQ

Posted by: Harry Reid at November 29, 2016 12:48 PM (X6fMO)

286 make the Democrats look stupid?

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Isn't that like making water look wet?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 29, 2016 12:48 PM (Nwg0u)

287 Don't know if it was Trump's intent but it will have the idiot protesters burning flags on camera.

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at November 29, 2016 12:48 PM (/D5Lf)

288 The most obvious explanation (which Allah notes) is that Trump saw something on "the shows" about flag-burning, decided he didn't like it on a purely gut level, and tossed out his tweet to the world.

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Allahpundit has been wrong about almost everything for the last two years.

Why did Trump do it? Prime immediate reason number one: He is trying to bait the left into a flag burning rampage, which will once again draw people to Trump, not the reverse, and at the lest get a big thumbs up from his supporters. He does get off baiting people, so if there is a "gut level" it is that, not what AP thinks.

Trump may say and do stupid things sometimes, but the idea that Trump just does this because he sees some news story and decided to tweet it goes against the accumulated evidence we have seen the last two years out of Trump.

But there are other reasons...

Trump has been rather silent on Twitter until the last couple of days. Then he broke out about illegals voting in the election (granted partly in response to Hillary wanting a recount), then this about burning the American flag. Combined with the fact that a Jihadist, who was a refugee from Somalia, went on a rampage at Ohio State yesterday.

Remember Steve Bannon is with Trump now, so are a few other people who would not mind seeing the left get over aggressive and confrontational in a mass freak out. Everyone in the end needs a "Casus belli"...even Trump & Co.

Note: Personally I am not against this either. The left has spent years trying to bait conservatives, our military, and anyone who actually loves this country into doing stupid idiotic things. I think our side has done a remarkable job not taking the bait. Lets see if the left has that kind of patience.

Posted by: William Eaton at November 29, 2016 12:48 PM (MuTTO)

289 What's the difference between burning a Flag on a lawn and Burning a Cross?

Serious question

Whose flag and whose lawn?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 12:48 PM (sUwfN)

290 Apparently the media ignored the warning: "if hypocrisy persists for more than four years, consult a physician"

Lieagra is a helluva drug.

Posted by: jwpaine at November 29, 2016 12:48 PM (hoJm7)

291 Burn the flag you stupid MothrF***ing CUN***. I will never agree with you you can EAT A BAG OF DICKS. You have the right to do so. I also have the right to hate you like you hate me. I will stand with the flag and the US constitution over any hateful cause.

Posted by: USNtakim at November 29, 2016 12:48 PM (hMqvx)

292
By the way this Stephanie Thompson the OSU diveristy asshole is everything you'd imagine.

https://housing.osu.edu/people/stephanie-clemons-thompson/

Because BLM? LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:42 PM (EbeEQ)

Her "hobbies" include reading about social justice, diversity, and inclusion. And she's a yuuge Harry Potter fan.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:49 PM (PY9jH)

293 I don't think it's stupid at all. I think Trump is a master troll who knows the MSM/Democrat complex better than they know themselves. He knows exactly where and how to push their buttons so they'll walk off a cliff.

I honestly don't think he's that clever, I just think he rubs them the wrong way so that they end up looking like jerks. He's doing to them what they've done to the right for 30 years, and its refreshing, but I don't think its deliberate or calculated.

Not that it matters, it ends up the same way no matter what.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 29, 2016 12:49 PM (39g3+)

294 >>My favorite MIT hack: dismantling a car, carrying the pieces up into a belltower one by one without being detected, and rebuilding it over the course of a single night. Engineers ALWAYS have the best pranks.

The tower seems to be a favorite prank destination. One time they turned it into a giant R2D2, another time they used the scaffolding on the tower that was being used to fix the glass up top as a giant Pac Man board and another time they stuck a fire truck up there.

Some of these kids are scary smart.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2016 12:49 PM (/tuJf)

295 Best college prank that I ever heard of?

One guy bet another that he could make the guy's dorm room disappear over Spring break. Of course the guy accepted.

Guy #1 knew that the dorm hallways were going to be repainted while the students were gone. Soooooo,

Guy #1 removed the door knob, slapped up and taped a piece of dry wall, primed it and scrounged a piece of baseboard to match the rest of the hallway.

The paint crew went through all the hallways, and painted over the primed patch.

When guy #2 returned, ta-da! No dorm room.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 29, 2016 12:49 PM (326rv)

296 279 What's the difference between burning a Flag on a lawn and Burning a Cross?

Serious question
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:46 PM (EbeEQ)

Nothing in my opinion. My only exception for either is private vs public property.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 29, 2016 12:50 PM (AEEhl)

297 Better idea... make assault & battery on a flag-burner a minor misdemeanor, punishable by a $5 fine.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 29, 2016 12:50 PM (ry4ab)

298 This is the same media that self censors itself and will not show images of news items because it might have the potential to offend people from one religion, lecturing Americans about free speech.

There are laws against hate speech, many could argue burning the symbol of your country is hate speech. Citizenship should demand more then just shitting, eating , paying taxes or for so many people ( especially last two decade of new citizens ) actually getting more back in benefits.

And love what Trump does, breaking the tighter and tighter hold the left's PC knot that was straggling our culture.

Trump is changing the paradigm of what's acceptable to say, exactly what Obama did for the left . Trump is moving the needle, which is obvious because Clinton just a decade ago, a prominent democrat was for this same position.

Posted by: Sam at November 29, 2016 12:50 PM (1ANfd)

299 People should be able to burn the flag, they just generally shouldn't want to. If nothing else, it is an astoundingly good idiot detector. And as far as it goes, there is very little anyone could have said that would increase the likelihood of people burning flags than Trump saying what he did.

Posted by: djmears at November 29, 2016 12:50 PM (WFjXF)

300 By the way this Stephanie Thompson the OSU diveristy asshole is everything you'd imagine.

https://housing.osu.edu/people/stephanie-clemons-thompson/

Because BLM? LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:42 PM (EbeEQ)

Her "hobbies" include reading about social justice, diversity, and inclusion. And she's a yuuge Harry Potter fan.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:49 PM (PY9jH)

Why do I suspect "strategic placement of peanut butter" is also one of her hobbies?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 29, 2016 12:51 PM (X6fMO)

301 Trump passed a lot of arm chair general judgment on Bush looking from the outside in --over his New York Times newspaper and surrounded by his Manhattan cocktail parties.

He probably is going to learn what it feels like--how much the media lies about war efforts and the military when a Republican is in office.

It's the justice he will deserve--unfortunately the country will have to go along with it.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at November 29, 2016 12:51 PM (fi5nC)

302 251 I think a great senior class prank would be to have the cheerleaders run nekid through the lunchroom at high noon.
Think yearbook photos folks.

Posted by: teej at November 29, 2016 12:35 PM (JEx0Z)

I was in hs - an all girls Catholic hs - back when streaking was a thing. One fine spring day, three guys from the nearby all boys Catholic hs, ran into our cafeteria, buck nekkid except for ski masks (and one guy had tied a blue ribbon around his dong, which was a nice touch). They ran the length of the cafeteria to much applause and delight and ran back out again. It was well planned, because they were never caught.

I thought the old nuns would have grand mal seizures.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 29, 2016 12:51 PM (u0lmX)

303 Analpundit can go fuck an HIV infested elephant up the ass.

I'm tired of seeing him and his ilk pollute the air I breathe with their existence.

Posted by: John Nada - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 29, 2016 12:51 PM (KLyOA)

304 Didn't Keith Olberman have some sort of nervous breakdown in his bathtub after Ann Coulter pointed out he went to Ag school rather than the Ivy League school he was trying to pass off?

Posted by: kathyssaysso at November 29, 2016 12:51 PM (43OZ6)

305 What's the difference between burning a Flag on a lawn and Burning a Cross?

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Al Sharpton likes the one but not the other.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 29, 2016 12:52 PM (Nwg0u)

306 "Better idea... make assault battery on a flag-burner a minor misdemeanor, punishable by a $5 fine."

CPT. Charles: see #61. We're of the same mind, but I offer an 80% discount.

Posted by: Qoheleth at November 29, 2016 12:52 PM (iIzG7)

307 283
Allahpundit has been utterly and laughingly wrong on everything to do
with Trump this entire last year and a half. Nothing happened to make
him any smarter or provide insight into Trump now. Why anyone still
reads him, much less quotes him, is beyond me.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 29, 2016 12:47 PM (NLny5)

He's breaking bad over the election results. I think he's really depressed now that the recount thing turned out to be a bust. Now he's fallen back on nitpicking everything Trump does, like the rest of the dinosaur media.
He goes full little green footballs in 5....4...3...

Posted by: Agemt Cooper at November 29, 2016 12:52 PM (1zARK)

308 The paint crew went through all the hallways, and painted over the primed patch.

When guy #2 returned, ta-da! No dorm room.

Diuuuuuuuuude! LOL

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 12:52 PM (sUwfN)

309 It's kind of funny to hear Sean Hannity blathering on in outrage about Mitt Romney. "Why is Trump even talking to him after all the nasty things Romney said about him."

This from the same guy who told Ted Cruz supporters to put it behind them and get on board the Trump train.

Posted by: V the K at November 29, 2016 12:52 PM (O7MnT)

310 It's the justice he will deserve--unfortunately the country will have to go along with it.

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You concern status:

Not Noted
Noted

Posted by: John Nada - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 29, 2016 12:53 PM (KLyOA)

311 Her "hobbies" include reading about social justice, diversity, and inclusion. And she's a yuuge Harry Potter fan.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:49 PM (PY9jH)

LOL, Yeah I saw that. And from the pic it looks like she enjoys eating also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:53 PM (EbeEQ)

312 By the way this Stephanie Thompson the OSU diveristy asshole is everything you'd imagine.

https://housing.osu.edu/people/stephanie-clemons-thompson/

Because BLM? LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:42 PM (EbeEQ)

I said it yesterday, the diversity commissars will blame Ohio State for not being diverse enough and say the school must be more Muslim friendly. Maybe they can turn the football stadium into a mosque

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 29, 2016 12:54 PM (493sH)

313 He's breaking bad over the election results. I think he's really depressed now that the recount thing turned out to be a bust.
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He's the new Charles Johnson, and as they say, the sequels are always worse than the original.

Posted by: John Nada - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 29, 2016 12:54 PM (KLyOA)

314 311 Her "hobbies" include reading about social justice, diversity, and inclusion. And she's a yuuge Harry Potter fan.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 12:49 PM (PY9jH)

Harry Potter? Talk about a lack of diversity & inclusion. All crackers.

Posted by: josephistan at November 29, 2016 12:54 PM (7HtZB)

315 Trump passed a lot of arm chair general judgment on Bush looking from the outside in --over his New York Times newspaper and surrounded by his Manhattan cocktail parties.

He probably is going to learn what it feels like--how much the media lies about war efforts and the military when a Republican is in office.

Trump has been dicking the media for 30 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 12:54 PM (sUwfN)

316
I don't know, the flag burning industry creates jobs in the flag making industry. I actually don't even care about it, seems silly like when the arabs burn US flags.

I am more worried about Rep. Price and his replacing of obamacare. Seems like he is in the obamacare lite camp, rather than the free market camp, same as the evil paul ryan.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 29, 2016 12:55 PM (ODxAs)

317 If we didn't let them burn flags, we wouldn't get to watch Rick Monday make the greatest play in baseball.

Stole their flag!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0j1CpbC1t4

Posted by: m at November 29, 2016 12:55 PM (3jGss)

318 He was known to hug the flag during his rallies to great mocking from Colbert to Mediate.

Trump also hugged a rainbow flag at at least a couple rallies. Needless to say the MFM couldn't show that because narrative.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 29, 2016 12:55 PM (WlGX+)

319 274

Only MIT engineers could do that? Huh.

Posted by: Your average small-town redneck garage mechanic at November 29, 2016 12:55 PM (Yi9Gb)

320 >>When guy #2 returned, ta-da! No dorm room

We did a similar thing at work. We had offices that were built with aluminum channels and wallboard. While he was on vacation, we took out the section that had the door in it and replaced it with wallboard.

When he came back from vacation we all got in early and hid and watched him try to figure out what the hell happened to his office. We giggled like retards watching him walk around looking at the office like the apes looking at the monolith in 2001.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2016 12:55 PM (/tuJf)

321
Ironically, Trump's bold statement against American-Flag burning to the point of criminal penalty is non-controversial.

Of course the country should adamantly defend the utmost symbol of the country within the the laws of the country itself.
It's only pointy-headed, "abstract"-thinking intellectuals that have clogged up the path to this obvious commonsense.

That said, it is very likely Team Trump has stridently chosen to take a non-controversial position on a topic that is bound to arouse ire and consternation from the Democratics and the Media who stupidly will stupidly see his position as stupid.

Sharp move. All hail Trump.

Posted by: Stoic Trumpublican at November 29, 2016 12:55 PM (dDOWg)

322 306 @Qoheleth

Heh... gotta keep the Clerk of Courts happy. :-p

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 29, 2016 12:56 PM (ry4ab)

323 You concern status:

Not Noted
Noted

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OMG, Pixy stole my special characters!! DAMN YOU TO HELL PIXY!!!!

Posted by: John Nada - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 29, 2016 12:56 PM (KLyOA)

324 The Trump Organization--while history does not repeat itself--it does rhyme--and they are making almost the same pattern of mistakes.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at November 29, 2016 12:39 PM (fi5nC)

President Obama's legacy is tarnished by the fact that his programs and policies failed across the board, everywhere. Obama is obsessed with his legacy yetcan't point to a single noteworthy accomplishment.

I personally think tax breaks for infrastructure spending are a good idea, but that isn't really what you're talking about. What you're talking aboutthe detrimental effect'personality cult' type of thinkinghas on political parties. Truth is, Obama had the Democrats completely under his control. No one can say the same thing about Trump and the GOP. Comes to that, Ronald Reagan caught all kinds of shit from both the Rockefeller Republicans and the far-right while he was President.

We're Republicans. We don't do personality cults.

Posted by: troyriser at November 29, 2016 12:56 PM (OGbEB)

325 Trump has been dicking the media for 30 years.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 12:54 PM (sUwfN)

That ain't all he has been dicking. But am I jealous? You bet your damn ass i am!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:56 PM (EbeEQ)

326 Posted by: Danube River Guide at November 29, 2016 12:51 PM (fi5nC)

I wish you would not have reminded me that Trump called for Bush's impeachment. I was taking my seat aboard the Trump train. Now I'm back to standing in the aisle.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 29, 2016 12:57 PM (AEEhl)

327 Speaking of funny words. On the radio I always hear the weather being given my a Media Urologist. WTH?

Posted by: Bosk at November 29, 2016 12:57 PM (n2K+4)

328 Her "hobbies" include reading about social justice, diversity, and inclusion. And she's a yuuge Harry Potter fan.

It also looks like she enjoys cookouts.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 29, 2016 12:57 PM (qJhUV)

329 304
Didn't Keith Olberman have some sort of nervous breakdown in his bathtub
after Ann Coulter pointed out he went to Ag school rather than the Ivy
League school he was trying to pass off?

Posted by: kathyssaysso at November 29, 2016 12:51 PM (43OZ6)

It was an Ivy League Ag School!! Cornell!!!

Posted by: Keith O at November 29, 2016 12:57 PM (XoldI)

330 We live in a world where the government will make you bake and decorate a cake whether you want to or not to honor a ceremony your religions tells you is wrong.

Spare me the questions about whether this is "losing freedoms".

Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2016 12:57 PM (X7E8f)

331 The President Elect just stream-of-consciousnesses. I don't know whether it's a bad thing or not but it is different from previous Presidents.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 29, 2016 12:57 PM (0F67M)

332 Tripoli Precedent. Pasha Yusuf chopped down the US flag, and got himself the Marines as a consequence. Deliberate destruction of a US flag is a declaration of war upon the United States. As a combatant, you have certain rights -- so long as you are in uniform. Those are the only rights you have, though.

No new laws required.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 29, 2016 12:06 PM (H5rtT)

Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 29, 2016 12:57 PM (CS7jF)

333 He was known to hug the flag during his rallies to great mocking from Colbert to Mediate.
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I believe it was WashPo who labeled his hugging of the flag as bizarre and deranged.

But burning the flag? Totes a reasonable expression of free speech by a sound mind.

Posted by: John Nada - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 29, 2016 12:57 PM (KLyOA)

334 309
It's kind of funny to hear Sean Hannity blathering on in outrage about
Mitt Romney. "Why is Trump even talking to him after all the nasty
things Romney said about him."

This from the same guy who told Ted Cruz supporters to put it behind them and get on board the Trump train.

Posted by: V the K at November 29, 2016 12:52 PM (O7MnT)

I like Sean, his heart is in the right place. But I think he's a bit naive about the occasional necessity of realpolitik, and doesn't like it. Note to Sean: Nobody really does. It's just the way the world works.

Posted by: Agemt Cooper at November 29, 2016 12:58 PM (1zARK)

335 He's the new Charles Johnson, and as they say, the sequels are always worse than the original.

You want AllahPundit.

You'll take Charles Johnson.

You get Ollie Willis.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 29, 2016 12:58 PM (X6fMO)

336 in 2016 America, Trump trolls YOU

the guy's got more swirling moves than that hunky Spanish bullfighter dude

Posted by: Billy Occam at November 29, 2016 12:58 PM (ihtYN)

337
BTW:
Trump's bold statement against American Flag burning is ironic because it is not actually controversial but will nonetheless generate a huge of controversy among the pointy-headed elite.

Posted by: Stoic Trumpublican at November 29, 2016 12:58 PM (dDOWg)

338 327 Speaking of funny words. On the radio I always hear the weather being given my a Media Urologist. WTH?
Posted by: Bosk at November 29, 2016 12:57 PM (n2K+4)

IT'S FUNNY CUZ IT SOUNDS LIKE "MEATIER-OLOGIST"

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at November 29, 2016 12:58 PM (7HtZB)

339 Allahpundit? Really? The nevertrumpiest of the never trumps, he's like those SS soldiers in front of Hitler's bunker who couldn't imagine that perhaps their worldview may have been a bit wrong even as Berlin burned all around them. He's a siece of phit, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Ignatz D. Mouse at November 29, 2016 12:58 PM (nvc/3)

340 304 Didn't Keith Olberman have some sort of nervous breakdown in his bathtub after Ann Coulter pointed out he went to Ag school rather than the Ivy League school he was trying to pass off?
Posted by: kathyssaysso at November 29, 2016 12:51 PM (43OZ6)
===

That is an unfounded accusation! Have you no shame sir!? My rubber duckie, whom I've affectionately named Murrow will back up the veracity of my words, won't you Murrow? What? Why are you going against me on this? I thought we were friends! This is a bigger betrayal then when Katy Tur dumped me!

You sir are a facist. Good night and good luck asshole!!!

Posted by: Keith "bathtub boy" Olbermann at November 29, 2016 12:59 PM (BDZWU)

341 31
It's not Cuomo's fault.

His father was a retard, too.Posted by: garrett at November 29, 2016 11:56 AM (MQZBa)

You're not advocating a pro-abortion stance are you?

Posted by: Central Scrutinizer at November 29, 2016 12:59 PM (vI+F1)

342 So we are having a Change of Command and a Leadership Symposium for out Unit in VA...and I am in charge of Writing and Approving all the Orders and Travel...and DTS ( Defense Travel System) went down today...People are freaking out.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 01:00 PM (EbeEQ)

343 It was an Ivy League Ag School!! Cornell!!!

The ornithology college?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 01:00 PM (sUwfN)

344 I like Sean, his heart is in the right place. But I think he's a bit naive about the occasional necessity of realpolitik, and doesn't like it. Note to Sean: Nobody really does. It's just the way the world works.

Hannity is dumb as a box of rocks, he is like a Hedgehog, hedgehog does 1 thing & does it well, Digging ! Hannity is the same way, he does one thing well & that is repeating the same talking point over & over & over again

Posted by: Evilpens at November 29, 2016 01:00 PM (y3aQB)

345 The only proper response to the democrats/press is "Go Fuck Yourself!"

Posted by: Chris M at November 29, 2016 01:00 PM (k3w9p)

346 if burning the flag, a violent act, is protected speech, then any violent response, such as a beat-down of the burner is also protected speech, by the very same logic.

after all, the parties as just having a discussion...

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 29, 2016 01:01 PM (rubbd)

347 300
Why do I suspect "strategic placement of peanut butter" is also one of her hobbies?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 29, 2016 12:51 PM (X6fMO)
From Training Day movie:
Right. Female judge.

ALONZO
Who?

DOUG
Landers. The stress-case
brunette.

ALONZO
I know her. Sharp lady.

DOUG
Before this guy goes to the
hearing, he gets a hold of some
peanut butter and packs his ass
crack with it. So there he is,
standing tall before the bench to
give his statement and he shoves
his hand down his pants and comes
out with a gob of fuckin' extra-
chunky Jiff. Could'a heard a pin
drop. Bailiffs wouldn't come near
him. He looks the judge right in
her eyes and licks his fingers
clean. Holy shit. The judge, she
screams. All these homeowners are
there to read statements, they run
out of screaming.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 29, 2016 01:01 PM (jxbfJ)

348 Maybe Trump can get Melania to wear some Wonder Woman-esque little outfit with the flag.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 29, 2016 01:01 PM (DW+jj)

349 All Trump has to do when questioned is ask these assholes how the the artist who created 'draw mohammad day' is doing. Because not one of them gave a single shit.

And he is the guy that would do it. And this is after capt kerrey, skipper of the SS Deadbeat blamed the victims for the massacre at the offices of Charlie Hebdo.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 29, 2016 01:01 PM (326rv)

350 My laymans legal theory is that flag burning on public property is an incitement to riot. I also believe you don't have the right to burn a cross on public property for the same reason. It's yelling fire in a crowded theater. I understand those that even disagree with that limitation.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 29, 2016 12:45 PM (AEEhl)

And it wasn't too long ago, the Stalwart Republicans were debating a Constitutional Amendment to outlaw flag burning.

So we toss out terms like "unconstitutional," and at times people seem to forget, for some decades now, constitutional, what is and isn't, is not allowed to be discussed by us lay folk. It is reserved for those Constitutional Scholars, and decided upon by 9 people in robes.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2016 01:01 PM (TOk1P)

351 Shirley Jackson's short story "The Lottery" is suggestive. Liberals can burn flags whenever they want, but the police are tasked with the grim, mandatory duty of randomly selecting a liberal and immolating that liberal, once a month:

"'It isn't fair, it isn't right,' Mrs. Hutchinson screamed, and then they were upon her."

Posted by: General Zod at November 29, 2016 01:01 PM (Bdeb0)

352 OMG, Pixy stole my special characters!! DAMN YOU TO HELL PIXY!!!!

Your special characters:

[ ] Noted

[ X ] Not Noted.

Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2016 01:01 PM (qUNWi)

353 I am more worried about Rep. Price and his replacing of obamacare. Seems like he is in the obamacare lite camp, rather than the free market camp, same as the evil paul ryan.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 29, 2016 12:55 PM (ODxAs)

And the same as the His Most Beautific AndMuch Beloved Donald Trump.

Time and again, Trump has said he would repeal and REPLACE ObamaCare. Repeal and REPLACE. Repeal and REPLACE.

Early in the primaries, Trump expressed admiration for the UK's NHS. Go ahead and deny it if you like but it's out there.

In fact, many of Trump's stated positions on a range of issues are to the frigging left of Paul Ryan.

'Evil Paul Ryan'. Give me a break.

Posted by: troyriser at November 29, 2016 01:01 PM (OGbEB)

354 So here is an idea - make the punishment for burning a flag equal to whatever fine Oregon levied against those Christian bakers....

Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2016 01:02 PM (X7E8f)

355 So ace is still reading HA with all it's WaPo links? Someone is paying them for those links. There is no way they are so stupid that all they read everyday is the WaPo.

No way. Wait a minute this is Hot Air? Never mind.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 29, 2016 01:02 PM (NbJXF)

356 Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 29, 2016 12:56 PM (EbeEQ)

Bill Clinton has been "Dicking Bimbos" even longer

Posted by: Rectum Bowell at November 29, 2016 01:02 PM (y3aQB)

357 "I am guessing -- without knowing -- that this has something to do with Bridgegate, or simply noting that [Christie has] decided not to seek re-election in 2017."

Oh no! This is terrible! If Christie leaves public life, where are we ever going to find another gun-grabbing, Muslim-coddling, Obama-fellating RINO?

Posted by: torquewrench at November 29, 2016 01:02 PM (noWW6)

358 Hannity has made himself filthy rich doing what he does. One may not like what he does, but dumb he is not.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 29, 2016 01:02 PM (WlGX+)

359 by: Guy Mohawk at November 29, 2016 12:55 PM (ODxAs)

I got the opposite feeling from what I've heard from fellow congressmen.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 29, 2016 01:02 PM (AEEhl)

360 It was an Ivy League Ag School!! Cornell!!!

Posted by: Keith O at November 29, 2016 12:57 PM (XoldI)

Pfft. Cornell's the ITT of the Ivy League.

Which reminds me of a joke: a newlywed couple get on the train to Niagara Falls. After eating in the dining car, it's time to go to sleep, so they hop into their berth.

Sounds of heavy breathing and passionate kisses ensue until the wife wonders, if she gets pregnant that night and has a son, where will they send him?

She says Yale. Hubby says Harvard. And they begin bickering, back and forth, between Yale and Harvard.

Finally, the man in the upper berth can take it no longer. "Listen, buddy, roll her over, stick it in her ass and send the results to Princeton!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 29, 2016 01:02 PM (X6fMO)

361 Most people see flag burning as just dissing America. Elites pretend to see it as a 1st amendment issue but have no concern with campaign finance laws or laws against religious liberty. I see it as basically a constitutional protection for being an asshole who should get pummeled. Advantage trump.

Posted by: SH at November 29, 2016 01:03 PM (otLn5)

362 Hmm, I'll settle for the revoking of Green Card status for non-citizens harming the US flag...

...and summary deportation.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 29, 2016 01:03 PM (ry4ab)

363 Off topic

I just finished watching this -
#PizzaGate: What We Know So Far

by a British vegan(!) Trump supporter

She has a great voice, very low-key, I fee like I'm listening to NPR

Great video, imo, to counter the "that's just crazy talk" objection to the pedo stuff.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 29, 2016 01:03 PM (Om16U)

364 314 311 Her "hobbies" include reading about social justice, diversity, and inclusion."

I'll take "person I would least like to sit next to at a dinner party" for $50, Alex.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 29, 2016 01:03 PM (u0lmX)

365 STRAY!

VOLTAGE!

People who want to criminalize speech are now forced to defend the burning of the American flag. LOL

They still don't get it.

Posted by: most deplorable Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at November 29, 2016 01:03 PM (Iy6JT)

366 Neither the media nor the rinos know Trump, or how to deal with Trump. Yet they meekly accepted 8 years of ubama. Well, I never did. I am looking forward to Trump, PRESIDENT Trump, kicking their ass everyday. Or having his minions do it.

Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2016 01:04 PM (zLDYs)

367 >>I am more worried about Rep. Price and his replacing of obamacare. Seems like he is in the obamacare lite camp, rather than the free market camp, same as the evil paul ryan.

I posted a link to Price's replace plan that was already approved by the House and vetoed by Obama last year. You should read it.

It IS based on free market principles and the evil Paul Ryan agrees wholeheartedly. Apparently, so does Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2016 01:04 PM (/tuJf)

368 "Donald Trump does not like flag burning!!!!11!!"

So what? Neither do I.

"He thinks it should be a crime!!11111!!!11!"

It wouldn't bother me either.

"Butbutbut free speech!!!!!!111eleventy11!!!

Get back to me with your defense of free speech when it is speech you don't like. Until then, suck it, Lefty.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Days of Rage and Tears Black Friday Sale at The Outrage Outlet! at November 29, 2016 01:04 PM (hLRSq)

369 Your special characters:

[ ] Noted

[ X ] Not Noted.

******************

YAY!

Posted by: John Nada - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 29, 2016 01:04 PM (KLyOA)

370 He's a siece of phit, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Ignatz D. Mouse at November 29, 2016 12:58 PM (nvc/3)

Years ago though, Ace went to see Brokeback Mountain with him, so.........

Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2016 01:05 PM (TOk1P)

371 358 Hannity has made himself filthy rich doing what he does. One may not like what he does, but dumb he is not.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 29, 2016 01:02 PM (WlGX+)

You could say that about Lena Dunham, Brian Williams and Cher as well.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 29, 2016 01:05 PM (u0lmX)

372 219 "AllahPundit notes..."

Stop right there. I realize you still care, Ace, but a lot of us have long since stopped caring about whatever comes next in that quote.

--

LOL, that was me too. As soon as I see "AllahPundit" I tune out.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 29, 2016 01:05 PM (Om16U)

373
You Can't Say That!!

That's the the Left's favorite phrase. They've conditioned us into keeping our mouths shut when it comes to people doing awful things.

Not anyfuckingmore.

Si Se Puede!
YES. WE. CAN. SAY. THAT.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2016 01:05 PM (0cKff)

374 One tweet and we now have a national conversation about respect for the flag.

And some people say this guy doesn't know what he's doing.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 29, 2016 01:06 PM (3myMJ)

375
372 219 "AllahPundit notes..."

Stop right there. I realize you still care, Ace, but a lot of us have long since stopped caring about whatever comes next in that quote.

--

LOL, that was me too. As soon as I see "AllahPundit" I tune out.

Cosigned.

Allahpundit has nothing at all to say that interests me. He's been too wrong too often.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2016 01:07 PM (0cKff)

376 I do like the idea of minimizing battery charges against someone who batters someone burning the flag. Sort of like a reverse hate law.

Posted by: SH at November 29, 2016 01:07 PM (otLn5)

377 >>>98 I think Trump likes to watch the usual suspects heads explode just as much as we do.
Posted by: tu3031 at November 29, 2016 12:09 PM (qJhUV)

I expect he gets himself right back to work, knowing that we'll take up the pleasure of watching their heads explode.

Posted by: m at November 29, 2016 01:07 PM (3jGss)

378 Cher is bona fide stupid.

She is THE stupid.

Posted by: eleven at November 29, 2016 01:07 PM (qUNWi)

379 "In fact, many of Trump's stated positions on a range of issues are to the frigging left of Paul Ryan."

To the left of Ryan in theory, or to the left of Ryan in practice?

Ryan has a history of shoving through leftist policies while simultaneously claiming he's staunchly upholding rightist orthodoxies.

In the last "cromnibus" bill, Ryan relieved Big Labor of a terrible self-inflicted headache. To wit, repealing the "Cadillac taxes" about to be levied on their health insurance by Obamacare.

Ryan described this as a "key conservative victory".

So: expending political capital to ride to the rescue of a key Democratic constituency, to help them out with leftist legislation they found painful, and that they had originally supported, while removing them as a bloc of support for eventual attempts to repeal that legislation (since it no longer hurts them).

You be the judge! Is this, in clear speaking and common sense, an actual advancement for the right, as Ryan says it was?

Posted by: torquewrench at November 29, 2016 01:07 PM (noWW6)

380 I am outrageously outraged over this outrageous outrage.

Posted by: Spokesman for the Coalition of Outraged-Americans at November 29, 2016 01:07 PM (3hIZX)

381 I don't think it's stupid at all. I think Trump is a master troll who knows the MSM/Democrat complex better than they know themselves. He knows exactly where and how to push their buttons so they'll walk off a cliff.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 29, 2016 12:43 PM (PRtT5)

Sorry but that doesn't fit the "Trump is an idiot" meme
that still sticks around here.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 29, 2016 01:08 PM (d76uN)

382 Anyway, my position, as I ranted on twatter earlier, is that if universities ban swastikas, confederate flags, the n-word, etc, then they should ban flog-burning.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 29, 2016 01:08 PM (Om16U)

383 Ace is in the Major Leagues, Eeyorepundit is in the Grapefruit League.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 29, 2016 01:08 PM (0F67M)

384 Via Insty:
North Dakota access pipeline demonstrators say white people are treating protest like Burning Man. "White people are colonizing the camps. I mean that seriously. Plymouth rock seriously. They are coming in, taking food, clothing and occupying space without any desire to participate in camp maintenance and without respect of tribal protocols. These people are treating it like it is Burning Man or The Rainbow Gathering and I even witnessed several wandering in and out of camps comparing it to those festivals."

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 29, 2016 01:08 PM (VdICR)

385 Jeeeeebus. From Newsbusters, Whoopi goes off in support of flag burning.

"Sometimes people burn the flag, sometimes they burn the neighborhood."

And the idiot is being encouraged by progs to run for office, and is considering it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 29, 2016 01:08 PM (PY9jH)

386 Any one know of a great Senior prank my daughter and her squad could pull on her HS? The best I've heard of so far: Some kids released 3 piglets into their school. They had spray painted on them #1, #2, #4 respectively.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 29, 2016 12:11 PM (ty7RM)

Probably not appropriate for your daughter, but in HS after we'd dissected the fetal pig in science class I remember taking its severed head down to the girl's restroom and propping it in a toilet, face up, mouth agape.

Hanging around the corner from the restroom for a few minutes before returning to class, the screams that emanated shortly made the stealthy effort well worth it.

That's all I got.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 29, 2016 01:08 PM (CS7jF)

387 "STRAY! VOLTAGE!
People who want to criminalize speech are now forced to defend the burning of the American flag. LOL
They still don't get it."

"Alinksy, you magnificent bastard! I read your book!"

D. Trump

Rule 4: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 29, 2016 01:09 PM (SIY7D)

388
I understand the REPLACE part, I can read despite my atrocious comment spelling. It is what it is REPLACED with that counts. I read 2 stories today on what Price thinks that REPLACEMENT should be. And its the same paul ryan plan from years ago. And who still thinks paul ryan is anywhere on the right anymore?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 29, 2016 01:09 PM (ODxAs)

389 I wonder how long it's going to take Cuomo of the other dummies to realize Trump does this stuff on porpoise.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2016 11:53 AM (/tuJf)

The 12th of Neverember, I think. They have yet to figure out that, like any other salesman and marketer, Trump engages in "puffing" and not every expression is to be taken literally.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Days of Rage and Tears Black Friday Sale at The Outrage Outlet! at November 29, 2016 01:09 PM (hLRSq)

390 Remember this is what started it:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/veterans-protest-hampshire-college-stopped-flying-us-flag/

The idiots burned the flag on Veterans Day and then the school removed all the American flags because they were deemed offensive. It was message directed right at our military, and the country in general. It was not a simple run of the mill burn the American flag protest. They did it to provoke our veterans to do something stupid.

Thankfully our veterans are not the "deranged gun toting nuts" the left thinks they are. Instead they did a peaceful counter protest. They have something left does not have: Discipline.

Trump is now sending a message directly to the left gambling (and it is a good gamble based on what we know) that the left will not have that kind of discipline. They will lash out like lunatics...

Posted by: William Eaton at November 29, 2016 01:09 PM (MuTTO)

391 My wife voted for Johnson in Ohio. This isn't the first time since the election that making desecration of the flag illegal has come up. It's the issue she backs Trump on more than any other.

Make of that what you will.

Posted by: Alex #11 at November 29, 2016 01:10 PM (EUMt/)

392 Anytime the left is defending flag burning, they are losing.

Posted by: SH at November 29, 2016 01:10 PM (otLn5)

393 Trump is exactly like a lot of Horde commenters. He likes to mix it up with comments he knows will solicit strong responses. Nothing wrong with that ( as long as I agree with the comment. Another horde trait)

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 29, 2016 01:10 PM (AEEhl)

394 I'm recalling an interview on one of those late night shows with Kevin Spacey. The host asks him who is Frank Underwood talking to in House of Cards when he breaks the fourth wall. Spacey joked that Underwood was talking to Donald Trump. All this talk of Trump being a master troll makes me wonder if Trump was actually listening to what Underwood was saying.

Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formerly known as Serenity Now!) at November 29, 2016 01:11 PM (BDZWU)

395 The most obvious explanation (which Allah notes)
====

Who?

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at November 29, 2016 01:11 PM (toH8T)

396 279 - Nevergiveup

Virginia had a cross-burning case go up before the VA Supreme Court about ten years ago, IIRC. In essence, burning a cross on your own property that is visible from the highway is not protected speech. Reasons include the long history of using a burning cross to intimidate minorities, the current intention to intimidate minorities and essentially because when the gov't finds you to be that big of a turd, they'll skip over any principles that they have put to paper.

[tap tap tap] Virginia v Black, 2003. I was close.

Posted by: Semper Why at November 29, 2016 01:11 PM (SIO61)

397 nood up

Posted by: Cicero Skip at November 29, 2016 01:11 PM (FIrEF)

398 Yet another unforced error - the majority of Americans feel flag burning is protected speech. It's like Trump wants to be hated. Stupid.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 29, 2016 01:11 PM (KY/0q)

399 Louisiana actually passed a law (sponsored by a Dem) that reduced assault of a flag burner to a misdemeanor with a $25 fine.

Now, I don't know if this law has been used. It would probably be struck down as a violation of Equal Protection and a sneaky way around the First Amendment.

They passed this back in the '90s. I have no idea if it's ever been challenged or used or what have you.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 29, 2016 01:11 PM (DW+jj)

400 I think flag burning is stupid, but do not think it should be illegal. I'm all for permitting free speech, including the vile and stupid.

Perhaps the left would like to explain to us why burning a US flag on campus is acceptable, but burning a Mexican or rainbow flag would be grounds for expulsion.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 29, 2016 01:12 PM (u0lmX)

401 North Dakota access pipeline demonstrators say white people are treating protest like Burning Man. "White people are colonizing the camps. I mean that seriously. Plymouth rock seriously. They are coming in, taking food, clothing and occupying space without any desire to participate in camp maintenance and without respect of tribal protocols. These people are treating it like it is Burning Man or The Rainbow Gathering and I even witnessed several wandering in and out of camps comparing it to those festivals."

-
Important safety tip: don't accept any free blankets from the white man.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 29, 2016 01:12 PM (Nwg0u)

402 Stupid.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 29, 2016 01:11 PM (KY/0q)

Yes, you are Bill.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 29, 2016 01:12 PM (u0lmX)

403 Via Insty:

North Dakota access pipeline demonstrators say white people are
treating protest like Burning Man. "White people are colonizing the
camps. I mean that seriously. Plymouth rock seriously. They are coming
in, taking food, clothing and occupying space without any desire to
participate in camp maintenance and without respect of tribal protocols.
These people are treating it like it is Burning Man or The Rainbow
Gathering and I even witnessed several wandering in and out of camps
comparing it to those festivals."

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 29, 2016 01:08 PM (VdICR)

Lousy fucking white people!
I read that this morning and I laughed and laughed and laughed...

Posted by: tu3031 at November 29, 2016 01:13 PM (qJhUV)

404

Dont see how this is bad, pointing out "those guys are dicks"

Posted by: ThunderB at November 29, 2016 01:14 PM (Wa1o7)

405 "Posted by: Bill Wynn"

Hey! Go Fuck Yourself!

Posted by: Chris M at November 29, 2016 01:14 PM (k3w9p)

406 I think flag burning is stupid, but do not think it should be illegal. I'm all for permitting free speech, including the vile and stupid.

Perhaps the left would like to explain to us why burning a US flag on campus is acceptable, but burning a Mexican or rainbow flag would be grounds for expulsion.

Give PE Trump a couple of weeks. ;-)

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 01:15 PM (sUwfN)

407 then they should ban flog-burning.

Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 29, 2016 01:08 PM (Om16U)

Yep. Frogs should be boiled, not burned.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2016 01:15 PM (MiBfH)

408 Sorry but that doesn't fit the "Trump is an idiot" meme
that still sticks around here.
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Actually, the meme is "Trump is a dangerous unstable narcissistic delusional war mongering dictatorial Hitler" is the correct meme.

Bush was an idiot.

Trump is Hitler. New York American Hitler.

Posted by: the MSM at November 29, 2016 01:15 PM (OlyEd)

409 You be the judge! Is this, in clear speaking and common sense, an actual advancement for the right, as Ryan says it was?

Posted by: torquewrench at November 29, 2016 01:07 PM (noWW6)

Sounds like Ryan worked out a quid pro quo in a backroom deal with the Democrats. I don't know if a good deal resulted from the tradeoff since I'm not privvy to backroom deals made in Washington. I'd personally like to see the feds swoop in on one of those meetings and arrest everyone involved. Just because.

Posted by: troyriser at November 29, 2016 01:16 PM (OGbEB)

410
When Trump proposed a more stringent monitoring system of muslims, (so-called muslim registry), it really upset chemjeff.

This is not who we are, was chemjeff's basic argument.

Some people are well-trained chimps.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2016 01:17 PM (0cKff)

411 Nood

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2016 01:17 PM (sUwfN)

412 Probably not appropriate for your daughter, but in HS after we'd dissected the fetal pig in science class I remember taking its severed head down to the girl's restroom and propping it in a toilet, face up, mouth agape.

Hanging around the corner from the restroom for a few minutes before returning to class, the screams that emanated shortly made the stealthy effort well worth it.

That's all I got.
--

It's a new world out there.

Consequently, it might totally work for a girl to do the above prank in the boys bathroom. Just substitute urinal with toilet.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 29, 2016 01:17 PM (OlyEd)

413 Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 29, 2016 01:11 PM (KY/0q)

I love how you never tire of being on the wrong side.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 29, 2016 01:18 PM (3myMJ)

414 295
Guy #1 removed the door knob, slapped up and taped a piece of dry wall, primed it and scrounged a piece of baseboard to match the rest of the hallway.

The paint crew went through all the hallways, and painted over the primed patch.

When guy #2 returned, ta-da! No dorm room.
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 29, 2016 12:49 PM (326rv)

That is diabolical.

Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 29, 2016 01:19 PM (zoehZ)

415 And who still thinks paul ryan is anywhere on the right anymore?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 29, 2016 01:09 PM (ODxAs)

So being on the right is now an issue? Who said Trump was anywhere on the right? What? You thoughtthe GOP nominated a conservative?

Trump is, at best, an old-school Rockefeller Republican, a mainstream moderate on virtually every issue with the exception of immigration. It seems somewhat hypocritical that you and other big-time Trump supporters would be going after a guy like Ryan for not being conservative enough.

Posted by: troyriser at November 29, 2016 01:19 PM (OGbEB)

416 The weather in North Dakota is about to get real. White-out (heh) conditions in gale force blizzards real.

And the dummy reporters covering this Burning Man/Green Weenie mashup aren't any better prepared than the campers.

Posted by: Boots at November 29, 2016 01:20 PM (EBwPV)

417
Thought Experiment:

Imagine someone burning the lgbt flag.
Would it make the fake news? Yes.
Would it be considered a hate crime? Yes, by some.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2016 01:21 PM (0cKff)

418 But if I burned a rainbow flag, I'd be committing a hate crime.

Posted by: josephistan

That's the solution. Declare burning of the American flag to be a hate crime. Take all the bullshit concepts the left has introduced into jurisprudence, and turn it against them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 29, 2016 01:22 PM (OkKDg)

419 398 Yet another unforced error - the majority of Americans feel flag burning is protected speech. It's like Trump wants to be hated. Stupid.
Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 29, 2016 01:11 PM (KY/0q)

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I doubt that is the truth, but even if true they will change their mind when those same people burning the flag start burning other things like buildings, and perhaps people.

Remember most Americans were against entering WWII, then FDR found neat ways to get the Axis Powers to do something stupid.

Remember most Americans were against ending slavery, until Lincoln found neat ways to get the American South to do something stupid.

It is amazing how people can change their mind on something based on circumstances.

BTW: Here is a picture of Steve Bannon with a painting of guess who?

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2015-steve-bannon/___/feat_bannon42__04.jpg

Posted by: William Eaton at November 29, 2016 01:23 PM (MuTTO)

420 Trump is trolling Clinton and the MSM.

http://tinyurl.com/hbubvw3

As others upthread have commented, there will be a rash of flag burnings, making the left look even loonier and more out of touch with the mainstream, as he begins his thank you tour in a red USA hat.

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at November 29, 2016 01:25 PM (TdCQk)

421 meanwhile in Mexico...
That depends on your purpose and how you do it.
According to the Mexican Emblem, Flag and Hymn law, burning the flag is the correct way to dispose of a damaged or old flag but it should be done with respect. If it is not done repectfully or it's not a damaged flag, burning it will get you fined with the equivalent of 250 days of minimum wage (around $1,000 USD)and can get you 35 days of jail time.

Posted by: Al Leppo at November 29, 2016 01:26 PM (vmsda)

422 Ace is in the Major Leagues, Eeyorepundit is in the Grapefruit League.

AllahSuckit is in the Independent League

Posted by: Rectum Bowell at November 29, 2016 01:26 PM (y3aQB)

423 Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 29, 2016 01:18 PM (3myMJ)

He is a Leftard ! it is as natural as getting up & getting a cup of Coffee or having a Cig which ever it is for you

Posted by: Rectum Bowell at November 29, 2016 01:28 PM (y3aQB)

424 Here is the thing that I don't think people get about this in particular and Trump in general...... I think on the gut level, the id level, most Americans agree with this (and many other things Trump has said/done). And after so many years of having any sort of political id ruthlessly destroyed by political correctness a lot of people are happy to let their tits hang out the window.

Of course noone (including Trump, I believe) thinks we even CAN outlaw flag burning (our Superego tells us so), but we sure would like to see the pinko commie fags who do it get kicked in the f'ng teeth

Posted by: FITP at November 29, 2016 01:30 PM (BLVlg)

425 133 107 It's ok to use the power of the state to bully people as long as the targets are people you don't like. Executive power is good when the person using it has an "R" next to his name but is dangerous when he has a "D" next to it.
Posted by: rfichoke
________

Actually, that's probably right. At least the mainstream media can be roused from its dreams of President Boyfriend.
Posted by: Furious George at November 29, 2016 12:14 PM (77i7V)

Actually, George, either Radio Frequency Interference is confused about which party is which or is attempting a troll post. Either way, better luck next time, RFI.

Posted by: West at November 29, 2016 01:32 PM (1Rgee)

426 The American Flag is not just a piece of colored cloth. It is a legal item. The flag serves legal purposes - which is why ships fly a flag and why planting a flag on property serves for a determination of ownership.

Being a legal item - an item that serves very important and serious legal purposes - there is no great argument that it should be allowed to be burned just to express some hate for America. If one is so determined to show how much they loathe the United States then they can burn a picture of a bald eagle or something similar. They can burn an effigy of the President. They can burn and destroy all sorts of things. But they cannot burn an American Flag.

If they tried to burn dollars they would find themselves immediately open to serious jail time. The flag is more important and integral than federal reserve notes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 29, 2016 01:32 PM (zc3Db)

427 If they tried to burn dollars they would find themselves immediately open to serious jail time. The flag is more important and integral than federal reserve notes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 29, 2016 01:32 PM (zc3Db)

You mean it really is against the law to burn your own money? I thought that was a myth.

So all those uber-rich guys in fancy suitsat the swanky country club, sitting around the pool and lighting up cigars with burning banknotes...you're telling me they're committing a crime? Who knew?

Posted by: troyriser at November 29, 2016 01:36 PM (OGbEB)

428 In a country where Muhammad filmmaker goes to jail, people are forced by law to bake queer cakes, and downloading a music clip can get you jailed, the 1st Amendment is dead.

The libs and their cuntservative "constitutionalist" servants who are outrageously outraged by this are hypocrites of the highest order.

Posted by: Drando at November 29, 2016 01:57 PM (Y1uYP)

429 Posted by: Ignoramus at November 29, 2016 12:15 PM (SIY7D)
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this, I do believe.

Posted by: oddnot at November 29, 2016 02:01 PM (g1MTt)

430 I burn flags every year. Click the link for pictorial on how to host your own flag burning. http://fargosbrilliantone.blogspot.com/2013/09/how-to-host-flag-burning.html

Posted by: Flag Disposal Incorporated at November 29, 2016 02:13 PM (aCzO0)

431 So, either he's masterfully playing the media or,
he's viscerally in tune with the unwashed, uncultured, PATRIOTIC mass of voters who typically don't turn out to vote or if they do, don't normally vote for bloodless, country club republicans.

So far the results have been winning... so far.

Also, flag burning is offensive, but the one redemptive thing about it is, that the burner's typically wind up setting themselves on fire.

But apparently its not only fine, but considered art worthy of the support of the public fisc to float a crucifix in urine or spread feces on a statute of the blessed mother. So, in the end, the government is taking a view on speech currently. It supports speech that I find offensive and suppresses other speech I support.

The government is pretty much out of control, and they are going to lose "subscribers" faster than ESPN if they don't figure that out.

Posted by: simplemind at November 29, 2016 02:32 PM (xVRrG)

432 He's trolling the media. Read somewhere that Hilz the Haggard Harridan proposed similar in 2005 or so. The hag co-sponsored an amendment to make it one year of jail time and/or $100k in fines.

The media ties up their panties in knots then reads that Hilz supported this. Oopsie! Never mind!

Same as Hilz saying Trump was a bad boy for saying he would accept the election if legal, and now she is throwing in her tantrum with that scrawny Stein commie.

Liberal rulz only fit if it is in their favor.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,Deplorable Infidel Queen at November 29, 2016 02:55 PM (Cx8BK)

433 Sorry, but I side with the idea that burning a flag (that you own ...) is free speech. And I've been a Boy Scout leader for 24 years and have taught 100's of Scouts how to respect the flag (including burning it in a dignified fashion when it is too damaged for further display). But respect coerced is not respect, it is fear. If we are to preserve freedom and liberty and the concepts of private property, then burning a flag in protest must be legal (however reprehensible the act may be).

Posted by: RonF at November 29, 2016 03:10 PM (l8nW6)

434 "Hilary's bill" was mentioned up thread. In 2005 Sen. Cilinton co-sponsored a bill with Sen. Bennett (R Utah) that would have criminalized flag burning. The Flag Protection Act of 2005. It would have outlawed flag burning, with a penalty of one year in jail and a fine of $100,000. Has a Wiki entry all its own.

Posted by: Lirio100 at November 29, 2016 03:13 PM (JK7Jw)

435 I wish stupid hurt more.

Posted by: Someassholestolemypen at November 29, 2016 03:16 PM (J/Lk+)

436 If he's trolling at the master level, He shoulda did it 3 months ago - mighta got more votes.
Flag burning should be treated as a"fighting words" issue of the 1st amendment - you can do it, but an ass-beetin my ensue.

Posted by: steve at November 29, 2016 03:20 PM (/NSeN)

437 I mean look Ace you can still imagine that everything Trump says or does isn't carefully calculated and that some of it is just him being a hothead because you've read too much Fake News (TM) about him, but come on. The man has built his brand for 30+ years. He knows exactly what he's doing. He knows all he has to do is tweet something controversial and his Legions of Centipedes will joyously pounce at the opportunity to highlight the hypocrisy of those freaking out about his controversial tweet. He knows he has to keep the elan of his supporters high for the trench warfare that will be his entire presidency.

Posted by: deepelemblues at November 29, 2016 03:42 PM (osJSG)

438 "Not 11 dimension chess, just living in their little pointy heads."

True story: Many years ago, during the Reagan administration, I was chatting with a co-working who was a foam-flecked-lips leftist. I happened to mention a news item (I forget what, exactly) and said that I'd seen it in the Washington Times. My co-worker's face screwed up in rage and disdain, when I corrected myself and said that the story had appeared in the Washington Post; and his face immediately relaxed into an expression of benign acceptance. The change was so striking that, just for grins, I said that no, I was right the first time, it was the Times: and his face immediately reverted to the expression of rage. And then I again reversed myself and said, Oops! My bad - it was the Post, and his expression relaxed again.

I swear to you, I did this three more times, and each time it was like seeing one of Pavlov's dogs react to the bell: Washington Times, rage; Washington Post, smiles. Never mind the content of the story: its origin was enough to trigger the reaction.

That was the last day that I took the Left - or a political fanatic of any stripe - seriously.

As for Trump, he's not playing 11-dimensional chess: trolling fanatics doesn't require subtlety.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 29, 2016 05:13 PM (xgyfF)

439 With one small twit Trump has gotten the Progs to support the 1st amendment. What a guy!

Posted by: Bob at November 30, 2016 11:15 AM (fVGlW)

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