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Afternoon Open Thread
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: April at November 27, 2016 01:07 PM (e8PP1)
Posted by: HH at November 27, 2016 01:07 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Ronster at November 27, 2016 01:07 PM (GNMjp)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 01:09 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 01:09 PM (mpXpK)
CBC News said Castro was an honorary pall-bearer at his father's, former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau's funeral.
Now they're in hell together.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 27, 2016 01:10 PM (/ZyBQ)
Posted by: April at November 27, 2016 01:11 PM (e8PP1)
Posted by: Mephitis rootsForTexit at November 27, 2016 01:13 PM (DHsoc)
That's probably why all of these socialist schemes either have to collapse on themselves or be violently overthrown.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 27, 2016 01:13 PM (/ZyBQ)
Posted by: 80's music fan at November 27, 2016 01:13 PM (PHcLa)
Posted by: Mephitis rootsForTexit at November 27, 2016 01:14 PM (DHsoc)
Posted by: Fritz at November 27, 2016 01:14 PM (6uMKl)
and she'll have to live with that the rest of her life.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 27, 2016 01:14 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: Mephitis rootsForTexit at November 27, 2016 01:15 PM (DHsoc)
Posted by: Joanne at November 27, 2016 01:15 PM (o/EW5)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 01:16 PM (5sOEp)
Posted by: josephistan at November 27, 2016 01:16 PM (7qAYi)
He was the living embodiment of, "Socialism always works, as long as you're willing to kill enough people."
Posted by: Blanco Basura #Free Cthulhu (with full price purchase of Azatoth or Nyarlathotep) at November 27, 2016 01:16 PM (IcT7t)
Posted by: Diogenes at November 27, 2016 01:17 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 27, 2016 01:18 PM (iLoHX)
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at November 27, 2016 01:19 PM (J8/9G)
Posted by: Emmie Normal at November 27, 2016 01:19 PM (xVuS6)
It's the main reason for my, not "pessimism" per se, but lack of optimism.
It's especially nauseating in cases like this, where some despicable blood-soaked tyrant is praised - inexplicably, as though people were mourning the passing of some SS camp commandant or NKVD executioner.
But it's really the same story on every single issue down the list. Ignorance, false information, and a stunning moral imbecility that demonizes the good or sensible and elevates the vile. Don't know how we even made it this far, looking at half of the people around us.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 27, 2016 01:20 PM (QDnY+)
Hillary Clinton will NEVER be president.
Posted by: Mephitis rootsForTexit at November 27, 2016 01:15 PM (DHsoc)
Maybe she can get a job at Whole Foods, you know, like a regular person. That way she can get her grocery shopping done, you know like a regular person would. Except for her Secret Service protective detail, she could be just like us.
Posted by: Joanne at November 27, 2016 01:21 PM (o/EW5)
applaud! lefties, you weirdos.
Posted by: willow at November 27, 2016 01:22 PM (R7cwD)
re: Canadian Obama -- up there he's considered positively ethnic
There's a rumor that Skippy Trudeau's round-heeled Mom had it off with Fidel back in the day. Note the body language in the following picture of the two together:
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http://tinyurl.com/hqzz9d2
Sure looks like Castro may have been up her St. Lawrence Seaway, IYKWIM.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 27, 2016 01:22 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2016 01:22 PM (dnWSK)
Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Ho, Che, Castro.
Posted by: 80's music fan at November 27, 2016 01:22 PM (PHcLa)
Posted by: Mephitis rootsForTexit at November 27, 2016 01:13 PM (DHsoc)
Exactly. It was capitalism that created a prosperous, independent middle class. Almost every society in history was made up of a tiny hereditary ruling class, and masses of dirt-poor peasants. The so-called "progressives" want to return to that state. The ruling class hates the middle class, because we don't need them.
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 01:23 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: willow at November 27, 2016 01:24 PM (R7cwD)
JFK was a great Democrat president; Castro was a great president. Yeah. No cognitive dissonance there either.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 27, 2016 01:25 PM (7cmcE)
Posted by: josephistan at November 27, 2016 01:25 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 27, 2016 01:26 PM (iLoHX)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 01:26 PM (5sOEp)
Posted by: Infidel at November 27, 2016 01:26 PM (So9FI)
I just read an article by Michael J. Totten, "The Last Communist City".
http://www.city-journal.org/html/last-communist-city-13649.html
It's from 2014, but it's a good link to send to your Facebook friends who are all weepy over Fidel.
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 01:26 PM (sdi6R)
Exactly the way he wanted. You think he wanted to give people liberty? A fair shot? (fair in the sense of equality of opportunity).
No, it "worked" exactly how he intended.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 27, 2016 01:26 PM (mBYZv)
if one wants to grovel and have their children grovel indefinitely, socialism is the way to do it.
freedom for what? and to what? think!
Posted by: willow at November 27, 2016 01:27 PM (R7cwD)
How many times do we have to say it?
YOU.CAN.NOT.TRUST.A.DAMN.THING.THE MFM.REPORTS.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 01:28 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Ruth Ruben at November 27, 2016 01:29 PM (RR9wF)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 27, 2016 01:29 PM (7cmcE)
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 01:30 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Rumcrook at November 27, 2016 01:30 PM (4V3ga)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 01:31 PM (mpXpK)
"Still couldn't make socialism work"
For some values of "work", yes.
He certainly made it work for himself.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at November 27, 2016 01:31 PM (smOe5)
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 01:32 PM (sdi6R)
That's probably why all of these socialist schemes either have to collapse on themselves or be violently overthrown.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 27, 2016 01:13 PM (/ZyBQ
To be fair, he does not want to badmouth his biological father.
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 27, 2016 01:33 PM (A+FdC)
Maybe she can get a job at Whole Foods, you know, like a regular person. That way she can get her grocery shopping done, you know like a regular person would. Except for her Secret Service protective detail, she could be just like us.
Walmart greeter -- immerse her in a sea of deplorables.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at November 27, 2016 01:33 PM (smOe5)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 27, 2016 01:34 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Trigon at November 27, 2016 01:34 PM (HBU7W)
Posted by: Infidel at November 27, 2016 01:26 PM (So9FI)
The trick will be keeping the lid on. When Raul croaks, a lot of people will probably be expecting/hoping for the end of the Communist regime.
Any new guy taking over is going to have a job keeping them in line. He's probably got maybe two weeks to convince the populace that he WILL kick ass if necessary. A moment's hesitation, and he's toast.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:35 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 27, 2016 01:35 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 27, 2016 01:35 PM (iLoHX)
Maybe she can get a job at Whole Foods, you know, like a regular person. That way she can get her grocery shopping done, you know like a regular person would. Except for her Secret Service protective detail, she could be just like us.
Walmart greeter -- immerse her in a sea of deplorables.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at November 27, 2016 01:33 PM (smOe5)
That might even be unconstitutional - such cruel & unusual punishment. But it would be delicious.
Posted by: josephistan at November 27, 2016 01:35 PM (7qAYi)
Is this an attempt to socialize the use of carrots, particularly in chili?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 27, 2016 01:36 PM (DMUuz)
Pepe, Pepe, Pepe
Posted by: teej at November 27, 2016 01:36 PM (JEx0Z)
Posted by: Infidel
Even revolutionaries ossify into conservatives. There are many oppressed who want change, but there are also many people who want keep the totalitarian machine running.
"I am a murderous thug enforcer. And my father was a murderous thug enforcer and his father. I love my family and I want a stable future for them, along the same lines. If we allow for 'inalienable rights' like free speech, life liberty and property, where would that leave me? I wish to stick to the old ways".
Castro has created cultural inertia over the course of life, and I expect that will make things all the more difficult to correct.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 27, 2016 01:36 PM (mBYZv)
http://sli.mg/UU2OPR
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 27, 2016 01:37 PM (A+FdC)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 27, 2016 01:35 PM (FQKBL)
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If it was up to Flyboy, it would be a death sentence.
Posted by: SMFH at November 27, 2016 01:37 PM (CRotO)
39 YOU.CAN.NOT.TRUST.A.DAMN.THING.THE MFM.REPORTS.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 01:28 PM (mpXpK)
So very much this. Always remember who are the purveyors of "fake news".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at November 27, 2016 01:37 PM (smOe5)
Marxism is really nothing more than revenge fantasy. The bloodier and more brutal it is, the better it suits its followers.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
Is that why it's so popular with folks like Danny Glover and Harry Belafonte?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2016 01:37 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Washington Post at November 27, 2016 01:37 PM (EUMr7)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 27, 2016 01:34 PM (FQKBL)
In my dotage, I've learned to excise people and situations that piss me off. I weigh whether on balance I feel better or worse for having something in my life. If the latter, da svidanya.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:38 PM (SRKgf)
55 Why is there a picture of "Carrot Man" on the sidebar?
Is this an attempt to socialize the use of carrots, particularly in chili?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 27, 2016 01:36 PM (DMUuz)
Soneone is trying to set up a "carrotocracy".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Gob-Smacked Rage Monkeys (Suck It, NR!) at November 27, 2016 01:39 PM (smOe5)
He was basically Augustus Caesar, accumulating all power and wealth to himself, and denying such resources to any opponents. His model was brilliant and the model for any other tyrant.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 27, 2016 01:40 PM (y9ZKC)
Pepe, Pepe, Pepe
Posted by: teej at November 27, 2016 01:36 PM (JEx0Z
It's fun.
These Reds breed and infiltrate like islamists breed and infiltrate. Red diaper babies are a real thing. Trudeau is a Red Diaper through and through.
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 27, 2016 01:40 PM (A+FdC)
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 01:32 PM (sdi6R)
They probably just made up the literacy figures, just like our unemployment statistics. It's a lot easier than doing anything about the problem.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:40 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 27, 2016 01:29 PM (7cmcE)
Yeah. While it's fun to speculate that Justine is the son of Fidel, or of Mick Jagger, or Keith Richards, the elder Trudeau was more than enough a tyrant to have ordered Maggie to get an abortion, had she gotten knocked up by any man other than himself.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 27, 2016 01:41 PM (MiBfH)
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 01:41 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 27, 2016 01:22 PM (kdS6q)
Bad Boy mystique turned up to 11!
Powerful
Revolutionary
Known killer
Chicks dig that shit, especially if their man is none of those things.
Yeah, she was on it
Posted by: Call me Kait! at November 27, 2016 01:41 PM (kKHcp)
Hillary Clinton will NEVER be president.
Posted by: Mephitis rootsForTexit at November 27, 2016 01:15 PM (DHsoc)
But ... she's +4!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:43 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 01:43 PM (5sOEp)
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 27, 2016 01:44 PM (A+FdC)
Posted by: Infidel at November 27, 2016 01:44 PM (So9FI)
and the usual excuse for the failure of socialism in Cuba is either:
a -- blame the US for sanctions; or
b -- it wasn't real socialism (leftists seem to like that one)
Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 27, 2016 01:45 PM (2JQBv)
*points to nick*
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 01:30 PM (sdi6R)
I think it's important to deprecate the entire line of work. First by, e.g., saying "You lie like a journalist."
Second, by not otherwise using the term "journalist," which makes them sound like professionals. Use the term "reporters," which is redolent of the imagery of "Front Page" with working stiffs wearing battered fedoras while banging away on typewriters, a cigarette hanging out of their mouths. That image is closer to the truth in any case.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:46 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at November 27, 2016 01:46 PM (CNHr1)
b -- it wasn't real socialism (leftists seem to like that one)
Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 27, 2016 01:45 PM (2JQBv)
To get real socialism you evidently need a whole bunch of true Scotsmen.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:46 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Zombie Fidel at November 27, 2016 01:47 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 27, 2016 01:47 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 01:47 PM (/tuJf)
Bad Boy mystique turned up to 11!
Powerful
Revolutionary
Known killer
Chicks dig that shit, especially if their man is none of those things.
Yeah, she was on it
Posted by: Call me Kait! at November 27, 2016 01:41 PM (kKHcp)
And then they wonder why they get offed. Imagine.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:48 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 27, 2016 01:48 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 27, 2016 01:48 PM (2JQBv)
Posted by: navybrat at November 27, 2016 01:48 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: teej at November 27, 2016 01:48 PM (JEx0Z)
Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 27, 2016 01:48 PM (wV8s/)
"journalist," which makes them sound like professionals. Use the term
"reporters," which is redolent of the imagery of "Front Page" with
working stiffs wearing battered fedoras while banging away on
typewriters, a cigarette hanging out of their mouths. That image is
closer to the truth in any case.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:46 PM (SRKgf)
They are not even reporters. They are talking heads.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 01:48 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Infidel at November 27, 2016 01:44 PM (So9FI)
I know right? I thought it was a joke but damn the pictures don't lie. And neither does the fact that commies bred with white women in America to carry their Red Diaper babies to advance Communism.
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 27, 2016 01:49 PM (A+FdC)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 01:50 PM (5sOEp)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:46 PM (SRKgf)
But back in the day, "reporters" actually did "report". Who, what, when, where, and why. The political spin was the purview of editors and publishers. Now, they all just make shit up. The old way was better.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 27, 2016 01:50 PM (MiBfH)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
Is that why it's so popular with folks like Danny Glover and Harry Belafonte?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2016 01:37 PM (IqV8l)
Marxism is for losers, and they're losers. OK, they mug for the camera, or sing, respectively, but they know perfectly well that but for that lucky break, they'd be on welfare in the ghetto, playing dominoes, drinking malt liquor and bitching about The Man.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:50 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: April at November 27, 2016 01:51 PM (e8PP1)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 27, 2016 01:50 PM (MiBfH)
Yep. Yet another reason to call them "reporters." Maybe it'll induce a reversion to prior form.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:51 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 27, 2016 01:51 PM (2JQBv)
Posted by: April at November 27, 2016 01:51 PM (e8PP1)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at November 27, 2016 01:51 PM (CNHr1)
Hillary may go to jail if she persists. That is the most likely deal that Trump made with Obama. ie Go quietly and you and your friends won't be investigated. Hillary may think she hasn't anything to lose but her nominal friends have a lot.
Posted by: Ok at November 27, 2016 01:51 PM (EJZxz)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 27, 2016 01:52 PM (IBVza)
Posted by: April at November 27, 2016 01:51 PM (e8PP1)
Rolling Stone's reporterette, Rubin Erdeley, is a prime example. When she's not making up shit for Rolling Stone, she was making up screenplays for Hollywood movies.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:52 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2016 01:53 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 01:53 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Mallfly suPreme at November 27, 2016 01:51 PM (2JQBv)
Any system will work with a small group of carefully selected people.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:53 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: teej at November 27, 2016 01:48 PM (JEx0Z)
Oh my bad. It did not blow the margins on my phone when I pasted it. Then when I posted it didn't. I did not mean to blow the margins on people's phones. Sorry. I'll use tinyurl in the future for long URLs
I'll be in the barrel.
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 27, 2016 01:53 PM (A+FdC)
Posted by: Willy J. at November 27, 2016 01:54 PM (MJkxq)
Posted by: navybrat at November 27, 2016 01:48 PM (w7KSn)
This is pretty spot on. It's a lot like the people who hope for a zombie apocalypse or race war or something, because they just know they'll come out on top and be the king of the wasteland. Wannabe commies love to think they'll be the ones putting people against the wall, except when it does happen, hey wait, where are we going and why is there this wall here?
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 01:54 PM (8nWyX)
Define what socialism working would look like. Only examples I've heard of (have never seen) seem to be describing an ant colony.
Posted by: Ok at November 27, 2016 01:54 PM (EJZxz)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2016 01:53 PM (89T5c)
Victorians too. They lumped pickpockets, prostitutes, and actors together into a basket of deplorables who were not fit for civilized society.
Quite right, too.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:54 PM (SRKgf)
Right, you can make any system work if you have the right group of people, in one generation, in small numbers, and the right setting.
But with any sort of real world group of random people and normal life? Not gonna happen. The pilgrims tried really hard to have everything in common and share among each other, and almost starved to death the first year.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 01:55 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at November 27, 2016 01:56 PM (CNHr1)
and that lives that disagree may be snuffed out as easily , because They are applauding Castors actual deeds..
Posted by: willow at November 27, 2016 01:56 PM (R7cwD)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 27, 2016 01:50 PM (MiBfH)
I thought it used to be who, what, where, HOW, and why.
The why was often left to speculation unless given from official sources and editors often spiked paragraphs that explained why, because Editorial.
Nowadays, Why is the whole point of the story, as Vox and many others wouldn't have a reason for being without it.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 27, 2016 01:56 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: Ok at November 27, 2016 01:54 PM (EJZxz)
A family is a good example. But TWO families ... pretty soon the competition starts, interestingly enough, driven by women, each of whom wanted her children to have a leg up.
I've read that that factor alone torpedoed the kibbutz experiment in its traditional (rigorous) form.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:56 PM (SRKgf)
it won't work, because those that decide they dislike their life are not able to leave as monks were.
Posted by: willow at November 27, 2016 01:57 PM (R7cwD)
My breath, it is not held.
Posted by: Halfwise at November 27, 2016 01:57 PM (rB/gm)
Lets reflect a bit more on that. Trump's business practices are sometimes called into question. John Ekdahl couldn't stand him. Yet who is worse? A capitalist, who you don't like, who you can ultimately a) avoid b) sue. Or a totalitarian fuck like Castro or Clinton or Obama, who is every bit as rapacious and greedy as the worst caricature of a capitalist, but who who is backed by the coercive power of the state, so that they can hound, persecute, imprison, or (in the case of Castro) kill you?
It's a question of realizing you can't create utopia through fiat, because humans are corrupt creatures. Calvin was right. So we are left with figuring out the best system to limit the amount of damage corrupt people can do. A powerful central government is just the opposite of that.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 27, 2016 01:57 PM (mBYZv)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 01:57 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:53 PM (SRKgf)
Yep, Israeli kibbutzim are about as communist as it gets, and it works fine with a couple thousand people who chose to live there and can choose to leave. That's probably the most important distinction, never heard of someone being shot by the guards trying to leave a kibbutz.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 01:57 PM (8nWyX)
Second, by not otherwise using the term "journalist," which makes them sound like professionals. Use the term "reporters," which is redolent of the imagery of "Front Page" with working stiffs wearing battered fedoras while banging away on typewriters, a cigarette hanging out of their mouths. That image is closer to the truth in any case.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 01:46 PM (SRKgf)
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I must disagree. The old reporters, coming up through the ranks in an apprentice-like system and thinking of themselves as working stiffs had a better connection to truth than todays college-indoctrinated jourlalists. Even pace the ' comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable bullshit there were a greater number of cynics to leaven the self-righteous liars.
A reporter reports. A journalist crafts a
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at November 27, 2016 01:58 PM (dIc3Q)
Posted by: Rose at November 27, 2016 01:58 PM (HA8mN)
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 01:57 PM (8nWyX)
exactly this!
Posted by: willow at November 27, 2016 01:59 PM (R7cwD)
The why was often left to speculation unless given from official sources and editors often spiked paragraphs that explained why, because Editorial.
Nowadays, Why is the whole point of the story, as Vox and many others wouldn't have a reason for being without it.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 27, 2016 01:56 PM (kKHcp)
Naw, back in the day, the "five w's" of reporting was a thing. If a reporter failed to deliver on one of the "w's", he had messed up. But the "why" part wasn't necessarily the political motive behind the act being reported upon.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 27, 2016 02:00 PM (MiBfH)
Cuba is NOT socialism, it is hardcore communism.
Sweden was more of a socialist country. It has a small uniform country with a small uniform population. Lots o' free shit along with lots o' high taxes.
But it fell apart right quick. That uniform population started falling apart as soon as the lazy lame and looters figured out they could get just as much by not working as they did by working.
And then the ultimate happened. The cockroaches from the middle east saw the open food dishes and the hawt blonds so they crawled out of thre woodwork and flooded the country
At that point even the millions pulled in by Abba and taxed to death can't help.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 02:00 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2016 02:02 PM (TmVQX)
Posted by: willow at November 27, 2016 02:02 PM (R7cwD)
We need to be precise in our language. ALL men/women are not equal by any stretch of imagination; they're considered equal before the law,* but that's it.
Similarly, self-evidently, not everyone is capable of succeeding. They're considered capable of having a chance to succeed, but again, that's it.
Winners gonna win, losers gonna lose.
To be imprecise in language invites idiots to bleat about "inequality." Equality outside of the legal realm ends at conception. That some people fail is an immutable fact of life, but without failure, there is also no success. Not everyone gets a trophy just for participating. You get a trophy when you win. Period.
* Or used to be. Nowadays, not so much.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:02 PM (SRKgf)
1) Revolution -- the people rise up and overthrow oppressive rich and powerful
2) Socialism -- the people select leaders who control industry and society, reeducating and rebuilding the nation for a new generation of enlightened people
3) Communism -- the leadership is no longer needed as a new generation of enlightened people share freely among each other and work according to the needs of the greater good.
Step 3 is never reached, not only because the leaders in step 2 never want to give up power and wealth, but because human beings are innately sinful and corrupt, and cannot live in a stage 3 society.
Marx presumed the stupidity every leftist claims, that people are bad because of bad influences and learning. That if you get rid of those bad influences and reeducate people all will be wonderful.
But that's not just infatile, it makes no sense. If that were the case nobody would ever have been bad to begin with. Where would the bad influences and people come from, if its always external?
The problems with people come from within.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:02 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 01:57 PM (8nWyX)
The kibbutzes failed miserably and the government shut them all down with little fan-fare after a short time of operation.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 02:03 PM (mpXpK)
Trouble is coming down the pike.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2016 02:03 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 02:04 PM (5sOEp)
18 Burn in hell, Fidel.
He was the living embodiment of, "Socialism always works, as long as you're willing to kill enough people."
Posted by: Blanco Basura #Free Cthulhu (with full price purchase of Azatoth or Nyarlathotep) at November 27, 2016 01:16 PM (IcT7t)
Also, it's absolutely necessary to have a foreign benefactor who pours cash into your coffers (USSR up until the early 90s, Venezuela after Chavez took power)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 27, 2016 02:04 PM (LuZz8)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 27, 2016 02:04 PM (3myMJ)
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Nope.
Lefties have always been piss-poor losers.
Posted by: SMFH at November 27, 2016 02:05 PM (CRotO)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:05 PM (39g3+)
Just read artical about Kelly Ann Conway at LI, is she or not the basic
mouth piece for Trump? One one hand its hands off Hillary and the other
its no Mittens (don't want Mittens personally but whatever) for SoS.
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 02:04 PM (5sOEp)
Who wrote the article?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 02:06 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: willow at November 27, 2016 02:06 PM (R7cwD)
Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2016 02:02 PM (TmVQX)
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{{{{{Cheri}}}}}
Prayers up, hun.
Posted by: SMFH at November 27, 2016 02:07 PM (CRotO)
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 01:57 PM (8nWyX)
My understanding is that that statement should be made in the past tense; kibbutzes used to be as close to communism as it was possible to get, but (again, as I understand) the surviving ones are more or less just agricultural villages stripped of the communist ideology. The separate barracks for men, for women, and for children? Gone. Cottages for each family. The handing out of clean clothes from a central laundry? Gone.
The long-term problem with their survival? The original crew self-selected for the experiment. Their kids ... not so much.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:07 PM (SRKgf)
They are the Borg. The individual ant is nothing -- well, there's a queen, who is a big deal. Killing fire ants is a bitch. They have a sense of "smell" such as it is (ability to detect molecules that don't belong) that is to a dog as a dog is to us. And they have a long food chain up to the queen. A food source will pass through a long line of "tasters" before it gets to the queen. And they know exactly which line which food source went through.
If there's anything funny happens, bam, that whole line gets thrown out of the colony, and killed if need be. This makes it extremely difficult to get a poison in there. They've succeeded, but it wasn't easy.
A colony is really an organism of itself. The individual ants are sort of like cells in a multicellular organism, like us. We are the Borg from the POV of our individual cells.
Human beings aren't cells are ants. I don't think the Borg model really works for autonomous individuals of any kind.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 02:07 PM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Infidel at November 27, 2016 02:07 PM (So9FI)
you didn't choose your life they did.
Posted by: willow at November 27, 2016 02:07 PM (R7cwD)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 02:03 PM (mpXpK)
There was some restructuring done, but AFAIK they still exist.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 02:08 PM (8nWyX)
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Nope.
Lefties have always been piss-poor losers.
The whole point of this is to make these 3 States miss the deadline for the Electoral College thus making their votes not count...
Posted by: deplorable donna at November 27, 2016 02:08 PM (O2RFr)
I've read that that factor alone torpedoed the kibbutz experiment in its traditional (rigorous) form.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
If they are proper feminists, they will agree to try to hobble their male offspring by denying them access to Legos. Remember the kindergarten teacher who did that?
As long as they agree their own kids should be hobbled for the sake of social justice, they should get slong just fine.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 27, 2016 02:09 PM (mBYZv)
Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2016 02:09 PM (TmVQX)
Posted by: deplorable donna at November 27, 2016 02:09 PM (O2RFr)
Just look around at how many programs, clubs, agencies, shows, activist efforts, events, and special efforts there are made for daughters and girls today.
Then look for how many there are for boys.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:10 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2016 02:10 PM (TmVQX)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 02:11 PM (5sOEp)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2016 02:11 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:05 PM (39g3+)
Yep. It's easy to theorize, but when your decisions actually get implemented, theory goes out the window. As I used to say, "In theory there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is."
And pushing the countries they lived in toward communism was, I suspect, one of the major drivers of anti-Semitism. Compare and contrast Muslim immigrants trying to push us toward sharia with, say, Sikhs, or whatever. No one has a problem with the latter. They come, they live, they mind their own business. They don't step off the boat and want everyone else to accommodate them.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:11 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: willow at November 27, 2016 02:11 PM (R7cwD)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 27, 2016 02:13 PM (0F67M)
Posted by: Happy Fun Ball at November 27, 2016 02:13 PM (FZkFT)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:13 PM (rJUlF)
I disagree. The whole point is to further delegitimize Trump and they will continue to do this for the next 4 years.
In order for Stein to get a recount in PA, she is going to have to find a county where there is some evidence of voter fraud and the county is willing to push the issue and then find a judge who will agree and order a complete recount. And they need to do this by tomorrow.
So far, nobody has shown any evidence whatsoever of voter fraud in PA. Just left wing activists who claim that the voting didn't line up with polling and exit polling.
Seems pretty unlikely to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 02:14 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 02:14 PM (8nWyX)
Even ants have classes.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 27, 2016 02:15 PM (3hIZX)
Canada needs to wake the Fuck up or a wall goes North as well.
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 27, 2016 02:15 PM (A+FdC)
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 02:08 PM (8nWyX)
Yeah, there are still some local places where people live and work that they call a "Kibbutz" but the businesses are operated along capitalist lines by individuals. So they are "in name only". They are no longer "communist communes". And, they were a miserable failure while they were.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 02:15 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:10 PM (39g3+)
Precisely. It's just Little League and Cub Scouts, and those have been overtaken by SJW viewpoints.
And don't get me started on how teachers differ int heir treatment of boys and girls in the classroom- especially boys deemed ADHD. That is abominable.
Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at November 27, 2016 02:16 PM (VnCI9)
When electors are getting death threats, I have a problem with that.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/17/elector-threats/94003176/
Posted by: SMFH at November 27, 2016 02:16 PM (CRotO)
Well, that and to get Jill Stein a shiny new organization to run that brings money into her purse and keeps her "relevant."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:16 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:10 PM (39g3+)
Exactly. Don't complain, as some do on the left, that all boys do is play video games when you take everything else away from them.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:16 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:18 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2016 02:02 PM (TmVQX)
I am sorry about your Thanksgiving, and losing your friend. Prayers for you, and wishes for a much better Christmas.
Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at November 27, 2016 02:18 PM (VnCI9)
142 The kibbutzes failed miserably and the government shut them all down with little fan-fare after a short time of operation.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 02:03 PM (mpXpK)
There was some restructuring done, but AFAIK they still exist.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 02:08 PM (8nWyX)
Last I read, of the 10 or so that once existed, only 2 remain.
Posted by: Howard Wollowitz at November 27, 2016 02:18 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 27, 2016 02:18 PM (KCxzN)
which means any boy who is acting like a little boy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:18 PM (39g3+)
Beat me to it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:18 PM (SRKgf)
Stein has long been a political gadfly in MA. She has run for numerous offices and always lost save for some local town stuff.
I don't see her relevance lasting much beyond Christmas. She will get some nice parting gifts though.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 02:19 PM (/tuJf)
I'd think the law should allow more that a strongly worded letter in response.
I think if I started harassing local prosecutors or police about the exercise of their duties, I'd be in a wee bit of trouble.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 02:19 PM (DW+jj)
That usually puts an end to the debate.
Posted by: navybrat at November 27, 2016 02:20 PM (w7KSn)
Depends how much publicity and money she can wring out of this recount business. Right now its working out great, because of the desperate hopes of the leftists in journalism.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:20 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 02:21 PM (276bI)
That usually puts an end to the debate.
Posted by: navybrat at November 27, 2016 02:20 PM (w7KSn)
"The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink" - Che Guevara
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:21 PM (SRKgf)
which means any boy who is acting like a little boy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:18 PM (39g3+)
It was even worse for my nephew, who was diagnosed as being on the autism spectrum (high-functioning). His local school district couldn't figure out what to do with him, because he wouldn't conform to the box in which they attempted to fit all their students. He's very intelligent, but was bored with the curriculum. He quit school, with his mom's blessing, a couple of years ago and got a GED. I don't know where he will end up, but I know the public school system failed him.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:22 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: Moki, deplorable mom and sammich maker at November 27, 2016 02:16 PM (VnCI9)
When my Son was 8, his teacher could not get him to write stories for her.... so said he had a learning disability.
Learning plans... school psychologist got involved... and they wanted to put him on medication...
On his break between years (Denver had year round school)... he wrote a Story about a Rat and a Skateboard...
First of the year... I'm in with the Vice Principal and School Psych again... showed them the story... and they STILL wanted to put him on meds...
I walked out talking Lawyers...
His next teacher could not figure out why all this had happened, as SHE had no problems with him...
Oh.... and my Son is a now a Card Carrying Genius... Navy Veteran... MENSA Member... and is back in College with a 4.0 grade point average..
The school system sucks for Boys.
Posted by: Don Q. at November 27, 2016 02:22 PM (qf6WZ)
Stein has long been a political gadfly in MA. She has run for numerous offices and always lost save for some local town stuff.
I don't see her relevance lasting much beyond Christmas. She will get some nice parting gifts though.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 02:19 PM (/tuJf)
I'd call $7 million in totally unaccountable funds to be a pretty nice parting gift, myself.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:23 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 02:03 PM (mpXpK)
Absolutely wrong.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 02:23 PM (42Mgr)
http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_serving.htm
Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 27, 2016 02:23 PM (H5rtT)
A lot of dictators come from fucked-up family backgrounds.
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 02:23 PM (276bI)
Castro did run the world's largest vintage car museum.
Posted by: logprof
They say those cars were only "vintage" on the outside.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2016 02:23 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2016 02:24 PM (jw2Xw)
In any case, all details. A vile oppressive regime that made an island into a prison and slave-labor camp, where the church was persecuted.
That such a hell-hole run by such vile obviously corrupt gangsters could be favorably viewed by so many amongst us pretty much confirms the dire state of "us".
Posted by: rhomboid at November 27, 2016 02:24 PM (QDnY+)
Classic STEM graduate student.
Seriously.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:24 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: saf at November 27, 2016 02:24 PM (+zN6H)
Yea, I was kind of curious about that. I have a good friend who's 3 daughters all spent time in Israel on a Kibbutz. Actually, he and his wife met in one.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 02:25 PM (/tuJf)
It always did, but its gotten exponentially worse lately with the insane push for girls to get preferential treatment and boys to be emasculated. Started under Clinton. I couldn't believe what I was hearing back in the early 90s about how girls were overlooked and ignored in school. Every class I was in through every grade, girls dominated.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:25 PM (39g3+)
No one knew about HIV for the first 25 years of Castro's rule. IIRC, correctly, they generally threw homosexuals into prison, and did execute some of them.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:26 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 01:57 PM (8nWyX)
Bingo.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 02:27 PM (42Mgr)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:27 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 02:27 PM (DW+jj)
So Ofuckstick gets one right. I'm more than bothered by this. Something's up, I say.
Posted by: washrivergal at November 27, 2016 02:28 PM (CFc5L)
I think that was a jinx because the Bears still suck.
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 02:28 PM (276bI)
Medication was also suggested for my nephew. His mom objected stridently.
The school system for boys is a joke.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:29 PM (rJUlF)
http://tinyurl.com/juoremv
Che in particular was very hostile to homosexuals, blacks, and pretty much everyone that didn't worship him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:29 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 27, 2016 02:29 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 02:29 PM (5sOEp)
Barb - If it goes as my saying does "Inside every Leftist is someone who is waiting for the gulags to open" evey one of them.\
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Exactly. What do you do when a full 1/4 of your population is "irredeemable"? The answer is simple.
Posted by: Hillary Gonna Win at November 27, 2016 02:30 PM (EdXI9)
Seriously.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:24 PM (SRKgf)
I agree. He has so much potential, but lately, he's just been in his room playing games. He could probably write some of those games himself if he would just get motivated.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:30 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 02:25 PM (/tuJf)
They are a weird mix of early 20th century socialism and hard-charging capitalism. I think there are more than 250 Kibbutzim still around, but I doubt more than a small % of Israelis live on them. 1%? maybe?
They can be wonderful little test sites for crazy agricultural techniques and specialized manufacturing...little labs that don't cost too much, and have energized workers in them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 02:30 PM (42Mgr)
But back in the day, "reporters" actually did "report". Who, what, when, where, and why. The political spin was the purview of editors and publishers. Now, they all just make shit up. The old way was better.
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Did you read the Deadline Hollywood article last week? It was the one by a guy who'd worked for both the LA Times, and the New York Times.
He apparently worked for the LA Times first, and mentioned that at that newspaper, the reporters were the primary drivers of the stories. They found the stories, wrote them up, and passed them along to their editors.
At the New York Times, it's all about narrative. The various departments at the times will each construct a narrative for their department, sometimes over a year in advance. And then any facts reported will be adapted to that narrative, no matter how much pretzel-making is required to get those facts to fit.
Posted by: junior at November 27, 2016 02:30 PM (ff27+)
Posted by: mpthompson at November 27, 2016 02:30 PM (I/SRC)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2016 01:22 PM (dnWSK)
Yup....the only way for the Cubans to free Cuba is to go all Ceausescu on the commies. The only good commie is a dead commie. Sat Cong.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 27, 2016 02:30 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: P Rick Perry at November 27, 2016 02:31 PM (q5u+N)
If she is just looking for any voter fraud and not concerned with whom it helps or hurts, she can't go wrong to get a recount in Phila. - It would be a modern miracle is there was not voter fraud in Phila. - like 1000's of illegal and/or miscounted votes in Hillary's favor.
Posted by: areswoman at November 27, 2016 02:31 PM (Rx2dv)
There's some form, or forms available, that you drop with the school authorities that preempts any of this "screening" shit which is just a conduit to push all sorts of drugs on them.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 02:31 PM (DW+jj)
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 01:57 PM (8nWyX)
Bingo.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 02:27 PM (42Mgr)
Which is why the communist crap went down the tubes.
As their utopias fail, Communists inevitably face a fork in the road: throw in their cards and accept capitalism, or double down on communism. The latter entails guard towers, informers, secret police, gulags, etc.
There is no third option.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:31 PM (SRKgf)
The problem is that the public school system is designed top-down to focus on the next-to-lowest common denominator. Anyone that stands out (especially dull or bright) is left out. If they are clever, they stop trying so hard and just put in half the effort for the As and Bs.
Its just hostile toward boys and promoting and protective toward girls.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:32 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: navybrat at November 27, 2016 02:33 PM (w7KSn)
The War Against Boys by Christina Hoff Summers, I heard it on Dennis Prager. 11.99 at Amazon
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 02:34 PM (5sOEp)
I believe Siemens is also working a program with a few kibbutzes to test micro power plants.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 02:34 PM (/tuJf)
Yes, but a leftist like Stein doesn't consider that fraud, just social justice.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:34 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 02:23 PM (42Mgr)
As I said, there are a few still operating but they are not operating under the "Kabutz socialist communist system". Those few may be called Kabbutzes but they are not.
It would be like converting a grocery store to a warehouse distribution center and still calling it a grocery store.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 02:34 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 27, 2016 02:35 PM (H5rtT)
These thus have to be rounded up and shot. The blood bath then commences.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 02:35 PM (DW+jj)
So far, nobody has shown any evidence whatsoever of voter fraud in PA. Just left wing activists who claim that the voting didn't line up with polling and exit polling.
Seems pretty unlikely to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 02:14 PM (/tuJf)
Hey that should be no problem! Voter fraud will be all over Philadelphia!
Oh wait, that's the wrong kind of voter fraud.
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 02:36 PM (bMG0w)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 02:31 PM (DW+jj)
Which is why all that crap came to a screaming halt once I walked out of a meeting, saying the next time I hear from them, my lawyer will be answering...
Posted by: Don Q. at November 27, 2016 02:36 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2016 02:36 PM (TmVQX)
Targeting Philly would be a spectacular own goal. I would support this effort without reservation.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 02:37 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:30 PM (rJUlF)
He probably should've skipped a grade back when. That would have addressed his boredom with the curriculum, inter alia.
I don't know if schools still do that, any more than whether they hold back students who struggle at a given grade.
They may not do either of these because of the obvious potential for a huge racial disparity, with the attendant outcry and litigation.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:37 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 02:36 PM (bMG0w)
The difference between "fraud" and "fraud fraud."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:38 PM (SRKgf)
They may not do either of these because of the obvious potential for a huge racial disparity, with the attendant outcry and litigation.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 27, 2016 02:37 PM (SRKgf)
Yeah.... They actually had 'Gifted' programs back when I was in school....
Can you imagine that today???
Posted by: Don Q. at November 27, 2016 02:39 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: ESPN at November 27, 2016 02:40 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:40 PM (39g3+)
But I can't help feeling that they will fail. The percentages won't come out the way they are pressing for, and they will ultimately be rejected.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 27, 2016 02:40 PM (mBYZv)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 02:40 PM (DW+jj)
Posted by: teh Wind at November 27, 2016 02:40 PM (x2bNT)
It worked for castro, he died at 90 worth almost a billion dollars with a
wife and plenty of well cared for mistresses. It always works for the
most agressive top parasites promoting the system. the rest of the
slaves in the system not so much.. but hey Justin treudau says he
brought literacy to the island, so there's that....
*****
Its like the Amway of fairness
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 27, 2016 02:41 PM (18h+i)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 02:43 PM (5sOEp)
Yeah.... They actually had 'Gifted' programs back when I was in school....
Can you imagine that today???
Posted by: Don Q.
I can imagine them. They will just have different qualifications than they used to.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2016 02:43 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2016 02:43 PM (TmVQX)
Maybe the ad wizards finally focus-grouped it properly.
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 02:44 PM (276bI)
Posted by: Science! at November 27, 2016 02:44 PM (hJdFN)
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 02:44 PM (bMG0w)
Posted by: Paul Atreides at November 27, 2016 02:44 PM (VdICR)
Posted by: t-bird at November 27, 2016 02:44 PM (k8DTS)
http://volokh.com/posts/1189140572.shtml
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 02:45 PM (mpXpK)
There was some restructuring done, but AFAIK they still exist.
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Yup. They're still around.
The movie 'Live and Become' briefly features one.
The movie is about a young Ethiopian Christian boy who leaves Ethiopia as part of Operation Moses, and must pretend that he was raised Jewish. While a teenager, he spends a year on the Kibbutz that the grandfather of his adoptive family helps run.
Posted by: junior at November 27, 2016 02:45 PM (ff27+)
Posted by: Dr. Jillenstein at November 27, 2016 02:45 PM (eeTCA)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:40 PM (39g3+)
Yeah, about that...
My daughter wanted to homeschool my granddaughter. The homeschooers in her town didn't exactly welcome her with open arms because she doesn't fit the mold there.
It's sad, because morally, they would agree on a lot, but that group didn't want her because of her tattoos, and that she, sometimes, dyes her hair in bright colors. The biggest thing is that Daughter is agnostic, and the homeschoolers there are quite churchy (I didn't use "Christian" for a reason).
I don't want my granddaughter in public schools, even in small-town Texas, but I understand her frustration in trying to homeschool with no support system whatsover.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:45 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 27, 2016 02:46 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: SMFH at November 27, 2016 01:37 PM (CRotO)
Man with no party's latest nic,to work around the banhammer?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 27, 2016 02:46 PM (YhV5r)
Can you imagine that today???
Posted by: Don Q.
I can imagine them. They will just have different qualifications than they used to.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2016 02:43 PM (IqV8l)
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In our county, I think they still do. G&T programs - I remember reading an article in the Washington Post some years back where it said that 60% of the students in our county were in the "gifted and talented" program. Sixty percent. Let that sink in.
A good book about boys and their troubles today is called Boys Adrift, by Leonard Sax.
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 02:46 PM (uHcnA)
Posted by: creeper...Home on her hill at November 27, 2016 02:47 PM (qXtgU)
Posted by: Idealist at November 27, 2016 02:47 PM (ld7lH)
Posted by: ESPN at November 27, 2016 02:48 PM (Tyii7)
Its definitely a lot harder without that network, particularly for group activities such as sports etc. Its going to be much more of a challenge in some areas and for some people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 02:48 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 02:48 PM (DW+jj)
Schadenboner is the new normal.
Posted by: t-bird at November 27, 2016 02:48 PM (eeTCA)
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 02:49 PM (uHcnA)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 27, 2016 02:49 PM (VdICR)
Posted by: Geraldo Rivera at November 27, 2016 02:50 PM (FqgrG)
There seems to be a progression at work here. Look for the new Harrison Bergeron Learning Curve at your school!
Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 27, 2016 02:50 PM (H5rtT)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 27, 2016 02:46 PM (FQKBL)
I haven't. I still have Favorite Uncle status, but that doesn't means he listens when I suggest he needs to get up and do something.
His mom, my oldest sister, has worked so hard to provide for them for many years after their scumbag dad left. He and his sister are old enough now to help, and they need to. My sister's health keeps getting worse, but she keeps working, and I fear she will truly work herself into the grave.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:50 PM (rJUlF)
Nope. Romney got around 14% of the vote in Philly in 2012. The claim was that 59 districts in Philly gave Romney zero votes and that was true but Philly has over a 1500 voting "districts" so that result was not to surprising. Particularly not for the Historic First Black President.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 02:51 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Jmel at November 27, 2016 02:51 PM (tv+BP)
Posted by: logprof
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And hillbilly engineering school.
What some of of guys do to keep their cars on the road is astounding.
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 27, 2016 02:51 PM (L9ISu)
I posted it with the $10 off coupon in my blog
Link in nic
Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 27, 2016 02:52 PM (Om16U)
By fourth grade, those classes were gone, and I was back with the rest of the students, where I found out it was in my best interests to not seem too smart.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:53 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 27, 2016 02:53 PM (Om16U)
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THIS
/MI SoS is a Republican BTW
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 27, 2016 02:53 PM (OlyEd)
That's t-shirt-worthy, if true. (I know, I shouldn't get all hung up on 'true'. Can't help it)
Posted by: t-bird at November 27, 2016 02:53 PM (eeTCA)
251 The annual Griswolding of the Casa de Bluebell has begun. Big sigh.
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 02:49 PM (uHcnA)
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Here too. Took down the little skeleton man on the door for Halloween and put up the Christmas-y wreath. Decorating complete!
Posted by: Weasel at November 27, 2016 02:53 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 27, 2016 02:49 PM (VdICR)
I would like to point out that Vox.com can go to hell.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:54 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: Bev at November 27, 2016 02:54 PM (zktpf)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 02:54 PM (5sOEp)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 27, 2016 02:55 PM (mBYZv)
Can you imagine that today???
Posted by: Don Q. at November 27, 2016 02:39 PM (qf6WZ)
They're a mixed bag. I got slotted into a G&T program, but I can't remember a single thing about it. Plus, it's kind of analogous to the participation award thing. I never had to expend much effort to get good grades up until about halfway through high school, but then (and in college), I hit a brick wall because I never developed the study skills that were second nature drudgery to everyone else. I suppose it was kind of a participation trophy thing.
"Wow, you're so smart!"
"No... I just read a lot."
: time passes :
"OK, here's calculus and organic chemistry!"
completely fails because he was never before asked to do something he didn't know how to do already
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 02:56 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 27, 2016 02:56 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:30 PM (rJUlF)
Have him check out Udacity and Coursera. Udacity especially has a ton of free courses on programming. There are other online sites with courses (MOOCS) but those are two of the best.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 27, 2016 02:56 PM (/ZyBQ)
By fourth grade, those classes were gone, and I was back with the rest of the students, where I found out it was in my best interests to not seem too smart.
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I was in public skrewl for K-2. They had me tutoring other kids during class time. Then they said 'oh, she's doing well, lets put her up a grade.'
Parents nixed this idea, and sent me to Catholic shool, where reading and math were taught to small groups that all were at the same level. Best thing they could have every done.
/of course, I've never really learned to appear significantly less intelligent, which has been a yuuuuge problem in life. Ah well.
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 27, 2016 02:56 PM (OlyEd)
Posted by: Weasel at November 27, 2016 02:53 PM (Sfs6o)
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Oh, I wish that's all it was here. There are lights going up all over the house. I'm hiding in the basement. I haven't even ironed my turkey napkins yet. Too early for this stuff.
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 02:56 PM (uHcnA)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
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Nail. Head. You hit it squarely.
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 27, 2016 02:57 PM (L9ISu)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 02:57 PM (276bI)
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My high school had Honors classes, which is where I generally spent my time. At one point I got bounced out of Honors English (can't remember why, but iirc it was something stupid), and spent a little time in a regular English course. The teacher was actually pretty good, though we gave her a lot of grief.
The class loved me, though. The teacher would spend a lot of the class time with someone in the class reading the latest assigned book out loud (probably because the teacher guessed that most of the students wouldn't do assigned reading as homework). Whenever we started to get behind in the reading schedule, I was always picked as the designated reader. We *always* got back on schedule whenever that happened, no matter how far behind we were.
Posted by: junior at November 27, 2016 02:57 PM (ff27+)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 27, 2016 02:56 PM (/ZyBQ)
I will. I'll check those out myself.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:58 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 02:49 PM (uHcnA)
Thanksgiving in October here in Canada. Halloween came and went. House fully decorated about 3 weeks ago.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 27, 2016 02:58 PM (/ZyBQ)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 02:58 PM (rJUlF)
I'm heading there right now. I was just passing through.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 27, 2016 02:59 PM (/ZyBQ)
Call that a two-fer...
Posted by: ExurbanDoug at November 27, 2016 02:59 PM (hz5J2)
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 27, 2016 02:56 PM (OlyEd)
I manage by just not talking to people much. Which is ironic, I guess, since I've been in broadcasting for 30 years...
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 03:00 PM (rJUlF)
Have him check out Udacity and Coursera. Udacity especially has a ton of free courses on programming. There are other online sites with courses (MOOCS) but those are two of the best.
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Thanks for the recommendation. I love online learning, and need to do more. Had no idea these sites existed.
/looking for courses on how to deal with the fact that everyone is an idiot...
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 27, 2016 03:00 PM (OlyEd)
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 03:00 PM (bMG0w)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 03:00 PM (276bI)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 27, 2016 02:58 PM (/ZyBQ)
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I weep.
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 03:01 PM (uHcnA)
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And that is a really viable solution.
However...even people who are complete maroons have stories. Entertaining stories that I might use in my life that writes fiction.
I do live alone, which works out quite well for me, and the cat... well, she randomly meows when she wants something, which works for both of us.
So it's all good, at least at home. When I don't answer the phone..
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 27, 2016 03:02 PM (OlyEd)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 27, 2016 03:02 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 03:03 PM (5sOEp)
Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at November 27, 2016 03:00 PM (OlyEd)
Share the link if you find them. I'm sure the Horde would appreciate it.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 27, 2016 03:03 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 03:03 PM (bMG0w)
Posted by: navybrat at November 27, 2016 01:48 PM (w7KSn)
This is pretty spot on. It's a lot like the people who hope for a zombie apocalypse or race war or something, because they just know they'll come out on top and be the king of the wasteland. Wannabe commies love to think they'll be the ones putting people against the wall, except when it does happen, hey wait, where are we going and why is there this wall here?
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 01:54 PM (8nWyX)
¡Socialismo y muerte!
Posted by: Fox 2! at November 27, 2016 03:03 PM (brIR5)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 03:03 PM (DW+jj)
Posted by: james at November 27, 2016 03:04 PM (jxw6R)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 27, 2016 03:05 PM (A3edJ)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 03:05 PM (276bI)
Posted by: ESPN at November 27, 2016 03:05 PM (Tyii7)
Yeah, same thing happened to me, it all came so easily and I was so rarely challenged in school that when I got to college and they gave me real education I failed miserably. Took a while to get on my feet. My guidance counselor couldn't figure out how I could ace philosophy and do so poorly elsewhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 03:06 PM (39g3+)
I am afraid that my vote won't count. Dems are all the time talking about disenfranchisement. Well, they are trying to serve it up big time. Negating an entire state.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:07 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 03:07 PM (DW+jj)
It would be like converting a grocery store to a warehouse distribution center and still calling it a grocery store.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 02:34 PM (mpXpK)
That's just grossly false in so many ways. Everything evolves but there are way more than a "Few" left. And to even contend they were communist in the first place show you have a fundamentally flawed view of what the Kibbutz Movement was and why it was formed.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2016 03:07 PM (dELE3)
The indoor stuff is fine here, except I think the two trees are a little much, but it makes my husband happy. We have a collection of nativity sets, which I like seeing around.
It's the outside that drives me nuts. I'm more of a "wreath on every window and pine roping on the front porch" kind of gal, and I'm married to Clark Griswold, it seems, who wants lights all over the outside of the house, porch, roof, anywhere he can put them. My boys are also up for all that.
So we do both. By daylight, I have the decorations I want, and at night, I hide inside the house.
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 03:07 PM (uHcnA)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2016 03:08 PM (89T5c)
Aside from Mrcainiac, CDR M, and weirddave, I am not familiar with the other players' Horde nicks.
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 03:08 PM (276bI)
Welcome to my world. Living in deep blue states means my vote never counts.
Still vote out of defiance but my candidate almost never wins.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 03:09 PM (/tuJf)
Can you imagine that today???
No Child Left Behind == No Child Allowed Ahead.
I hit a brick wall because I never developed the study skills that were second nature drudgery to everyone else.
That's my sophomore/junior time in college, right there. I still crawled out with a GPA 0.01 above the line for Magna, due to coasting through the first 3 or 4 semesters. Getting that baseline of calculus-based math/science that leads into engineering classes is easy. Engineering classes themselves are less easy...
Posted by: mikeski at November 27, 2016 03:09 PM (lO+tS)
Not have read (yet) all the comments, I feel compelled to point out that socialism worked very well for Fidel and his brother Raul. They both have lived long and prospered.
So far, it has also worked well for Obama, and the leaders of the democrat party in the US.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 27, 2016 03:09 PM (FAndW)
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:09 PM (dFi94)
That is the point.
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 03:09 PM (bMG0w)
Posted by: Socratease at November 27, 2016 03:10 PM (2GbWn)
We win an election that was stacked SO high against us by every single entity not supporting Trump and instead of graciously... well there seems to be the problem.. GRACIOUS is a word that does not exist in lefty loony land.
If those videos by Okeefe were even pretended to be looked into, I bet a LOT from the top down, of folks will be VERY concerned of what might be revealed.
We had all odds against us. A DNC chair that resigned in shame do to the stolen primary from Sanders, and an all but murderous "news media" who are witness domestic terrorism (their riots) and said ZERO.
Now we have some bloody recount BULLSHIT because some rich skank who sucked SO terribly she didn't even garner 2% of the vote kicking up shit and further derailing democracy.
Or to sum it all up:
The left are playing for blood now.
Lets return the favor and look into those damn videos!!
Posted by: groovemetal at November 27, 2016 03:10 PM (ficNf)
Welcome to my world. Living in deep blue states means my vote never counts.
Still vote out of defiance but my candidate almost never wins.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 03:09 PM (/tuJf)
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Yeah, but at least they don't throw it in the crapper.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:10 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 03:03 PM (5sOEp)
--In January Baraq 0bama will no longer be President.
As one blogger put it, in January a New York billionaire and his family will move from their Manhattan penthouse to a public housing unit in Washington that was previously occupied by a black family.
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 03:11 PM (276bI)
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:12 PM (dFi94)
As this is not an official recount, I don't think it will have any impact whatsoever on the elector or the deadline. You can pay to have 2000 Florida recounted if you want, but that wouldn't change anything no matter what you claimed to discover.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 27, 2016 03:12 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Javems at November 27, 2016 03:12 PM (yOqwj)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 03:13 PM (5sOEp)
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I dunno.
Keep in mind: Hillary not only knows where every congress puppet's bodies are buried, she actually said long ago, "Hey, I'll take care of that body for you!"
She owns the closet where all the skeletons are.
Just about everyone in our government is a pedophile.
Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2016 03:13 PM (JTuAn)
"You know, there's a level of of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say 'we need to go green fastest . . . we need to start investing in solar"
At least the guy's honest about admiring tyrants. Most socialist assholes like Obama beat around the bush about it and say things like "I've got a phone and a pen".
Posted by: james at November 27, 2016 03:13 PM (jxw6R)
Everything evolves but there are way more than a "Few" left. And to even
contend they were communist in the first place show you have a
fundamentally flawed view of what the Kibbutz Movement was and why it
was formed.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2016 03:07 PM (dELE3)
No you ARE wrong. The articles I have seen say there are only two left. And my view matches a whole lot of stuff I have seen previously and not from the MFM and Wiki who all love communist shit.
And totally changing the operating theory and environment are not "evolving". It is killing the system and that doesn't even include all the ones that have been permanently shutdown. Both you and CBD are wrong. Face it, communist shit does not work, whether it is done by the Jews in Israel or the Commies in Russia.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 03:13 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 03:11 PM (276bI)
I plan to use "Billionaire Real Estate developer evicts black family from government housing," on inauguration day.
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 03:14 PM (bMG0w)
And totally changing the operating theory and environment are not "evolving". It is killing the system and that doesn't even include all the ones that have been permanently shutdown. Both you and CBD are wrong. Face it, communist shit does not work, whether it is done by the Jews in Israel or the Commies in Russia.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 03:13 PM (mpXpK)
Only 2 left? I don't even know what to say to that. Good luck with that one. Been in Israel much have ya?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2016 03:15 PM (dELE3)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 03:07 PM (DW+jj)
--There was a chapter dedicated to Hemingway in Paul Johnson's Intellectuals (a book I highly recommend and an easier read than it seems.
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 03:15 PM (276bI)
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:12 PM (dFi94)
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Or every state, for that matter?
What I don't understand is how someone with so few votes was able to trigger a recount like that. I understand that it was all a ploy for Hillary to stick her nose in, but still. It just seems too fantastic.
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 03:16 PM (uHcnA)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 03:16 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 03:16 PM (5sOEp)
I really think if Hillary is going to change her mind about accepting the results, Trump needs to change his mind about appointing a special prosecutor.
Posted by: Triston at November 27, 2016 03:16 PM (6RjTQ)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 03:16 PM (276bI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2016 03:17 PM (dELE3)
Posted by: Infidel at November 27, 2016 03:17 PM (So9FI)
Posted by: Mst3k at November 27, 2016 03:17 PM (Z53PH)
Will easily be completed well before the EC votes.
Posted by: Kim Jong Un and Only at November 27, 2016 03:17 PM (GdgAM)
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at November 27, 2016 03:18 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: washrivergal at November 27, 2016 03:18 PM (CFc5L)
Hemmingway loved Cooba. He had a house in a town that I believe was the inspiration for the hometown of the old fisherman in The Old Man and the Sea.
I know he hated Bautista but I didn't know he was a big fan of Castro. I guess it shouldn't be surprising, he was a big fan of communism and was rumored to be a KGB asset.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 03:19 PM (/tuJf)
Will easily be completed well before the EC votes.
Posted by: Kim Jong Un and Only at November 27, 2016 03:17 PM (GdgAM)
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We don't need your guys, thanks.
We can just use the FBI guys that got through all 33,000 extra of Hillary's emails in 8 days and found nothing wrong.
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 03:19 PM (uHcnA)
Posted by: Kim Jong Un and Only at November 27, 2016 03:19 PM (GdgAM)
votes was able to trigger a recount like that. I understand that it was
all a ploy for Hillary to stick her nose in, but still. It just seems
too fantastic.
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 03:16 PM (uHcnA)
Poorly worded State laws. In SC a recount is automatically mandated if a "final" election has less than a 1%+ win. But no candidate may demand one on any other basis. On primaries there is no "recount". Here if no candidate gets more than 50.0% there is a runoff between the top two candidates. You can pull some maneuvers with that too with fake candidates in the mix but it is tough.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 03:20 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at November 27, 2016 03:21 PM (tHwdc)
I hope you are right... From what I have read there is no way WI can make the deadline to be counted by the Electoral College...
Posted by: deplorable donna at November 27, 2016 03:21 PM (O2RFr)
I don't get to see her enough. (She basically raised me when Mom had to go to work when i was 4)
Her husband just recently beat back Cancer, and he is looking really healthy - they're happy as all get out. Life seems to be treating them really well.
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 27, 2016 03:22 PM (L9ISu)
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It's the law in many (if not most) states.
In most states, if the vote is within a certain margin, then the state recounts automatically. If the vote is not within the margin, but a candidate still suspects chicanery, then they can finance the recount themselves.
The idea is that the recount is expensive enough that it's not going to happen unless you're convinced that the recount will reveal that you actually won. The problem here is that Stein's not really paying for it herself. She's (officially, at any rate) crowdfunding it, and doesn't have to pay a dime of her own money.
You need to have a law that allows this as otherwise you could have a situation with blatant fraud that pushes the results above the automatic recount margin, and the losing candidate would be stuck with the result.
Posted by: junior at November 27, 2016 03:22 PM (ff27+)
https://i.sli.mg/wlGlC8.png
Posted by: mpthompson at November 27, 2016 02:30 PM (I/SRC)
Their lapels are very different.
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 03:22 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Ultimate Circle Jerk Champions aka GOP Senate at November 27, 2016 03:22 PM (8J/Te)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 02:34 PM (mpXpK)
As I said....Absolutely wrong.
Stop digging.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 03:23 PM (42Mgr)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 03:23 PM (276bI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2016 03:23 PM (dELE3)
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Yeah. Ain't that a kick in the head.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:23 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 27, 2016 03:24 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 03:16 PM (mpXpK)
This isn't a difference of opinion.
You are spectacularly wrong on the facts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 03:25 PM (42Mgr)
You really want those guys counting ballots? LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2016 03:25 PM (dELE3)
As this is not an official recount, I don't think it will have any
impact whatsoever on the elector or the deadline. You can pay to have
2000 Florida recounted if you want, but that wouldn't change anything no
matter what you claimed to discover.
I hope you are right... From what I have read there is no way WI
can make the deadline to be counted by the Electoral College...
Posted by: deplorable donna at November 27, 2016 03:21 PM (O2RFr)
The article I linked to Faux said that the head State Election Commissioner had ordered it so that is about as "official" as it can get. Whether or not they can get it done is another story.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 03:26 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way
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I wish I could quit my job at the airport so I could once again see snow as something pretty.
As it is, when I see snow come down I just want to shoot myself.
Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2016 03:26 PM (JTuAn)
I detest them. I detest them all. Since 2010, this is all we do here. Elect. Recount. Recall. Elect. Recount. Recall.
So, so very done. Done. Go home Stein, you make me ill.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:27 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Houston Texans at November 27, 2016 03:28 PM (276bI)
"I wish I could quit my job at the airport so I could once again see snow as something pretty."
I hope you aren't on de-icing duty. That looks awful.
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 27, 2016 03:28 PM (3myMJ)
When I was still at Charles' Mansion, that was a word I remember the ponytailed one delivering unto his faithful. Don't trust what you read in blogs besides LGF, said he. Couldn't stay long after that.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 27, 2016 03:29 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2016 03:29 PM (dELE3)
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 03:16 PM (uHcnA)
I like the idea of a recount. It is a reasonable response to suspected voter fraud.
Of course the Devil is in the details.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 03:30 PM (42Mgr)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way
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Gave it up 10 years ago. Said. "Uh-uh. No more. I've done my time in the bucket. Make the kids do it."
Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2016 03:30 PM (JTuAn)
I'm from NorCal and have been rooting against the 40 Whiners all year...
Posted by: deplorable donna at November 27, 2016 03:30 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:31 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2016 01:22 PM (dnWSK)
YES. and they then use the government to implement regulations that now make it harder for others to enter the business space that they made millions in. Then they also have the government write guidelines for bids that are tailored specifically to their company so they are the only ones that can meet the specifications. They may even help write the specifications. Power, corruption, collusion.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 27, 2016 03:31 PM (L7t0A)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way
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I have had some adventures with pushing 767s and having them start sliding.
"Let's see, I'm going this way... the plane's going that way... What does 'turn into the skid' actually mean at this point?!!!"
Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2016 03:32 PM (JTuAn)
I finished mine a couple years ago.
You know those plastic candles that use a 4 watt nightlight bulb? I put those in all the windows facing the street one year.
I liked the look so much, I never took them down.
I even have them plugged into switched outlets, so every night I just flip them on - for ambience, or something.
If I had the money and/or energy, I would make a 20' tall Grinch to counteract the dozen plywood cutout crap my neigh or puts up every year (well, I put it up. 8 hours yesterday, and I'm only about 75% done).
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 27, 2016 03:32 PM (L9ISu)
Posted by: deplorable donna at November 27, 2016 03:32 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 27, 2016 03:32 PM (6FqZa)
I'm curious to what extent these also apply to kibbitzum.
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 03:32 PM (276bI)
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That's the stupid crazy stupid thing. Stein herself said they had no reason to suspect voter fraud.
This is a stalling tactic designed to inject chaos into the Electoral College process.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:33 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at November 27, 2016 03:33 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 27, 2016 03:34 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: DaveA at November 27, 2016 03:34 PM (8J/Te)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2016 03:29 PM (dELE3)
The 49ers ran Singletary out of there because he was too tough on the players. Of course they went to the Super Bowl with the players he developed, including Kaepernick.
And then Harbough was run out of there....
I think there is a pattern. Maybe football players aren't as smart as they think!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 03:34 PM (42Mgr)
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 27, 2016 03:34 PM (Om16U)
Good.
Some of the Steamboat Springs, CO ski bums held a protest over the lack of snow recently, made the local papers. Must have been closet Trumpers.
They had signs reading: "Not My Season" and "Powder to the People!"
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 27, 2016 03:34 PM (3myMJ)
Everybody is just upping stakes in the Pardon-O-Rama
Posted by: DaveA at November 27, 2016 03:35 PM (8J/Te)
"No... I just read a lot."
: time passes :
"OK, here's calculus and organic chemistry!"
completely fails because he was never before asked to do something he didn't know how to do already
Posted by: hogmartin at November 27, 2016 02:56 PM (8nWyX)
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You have just described my life.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 27, 2016 03:35 PM (EnKk6)
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I used to love watching Singletary play. Those eyes. Those scary, scary eyes. Nice guy too. He went to my sister's church.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:36 PM (dFi94)
Of course the Devil is in the details.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 03:30 PM (42Mgr)
And if they find ballot stuffing on part of the Dems, will they announce it or just claim statistical errors?
I would love it if Hillary goes down because Anthony Weiner surfed porn on a laptop Huma was hoarding Hillary's classified material on, and voter ID laws get ushered in because Hillary pushed a recount that discovered fraud.
DNC clearly would be shown to have hired a coyote who was a lobbyist for Acme Industries.
(I can dream, right?)
Posted by: Kindltot at November 27, 2016 03:37 PM (vU79J)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 03:37 PM (276bI)
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 27, 2016 03:34 PM (Om16U)
No, because Philadelphia County voted the right way.
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 03:38 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:33 PM (dFi94)
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See, this is what it seems like to me too. I guess I haven't done enough reading on it, but it just seems strange to me for a very minor candidate who doesn't have a prayer of winning the state to ask for a recount.
I mean, recounts as a general idea are great if the vote is close, or if there is suspected fraud. But this just is weird, and do we know what happens if they don't get done in time (which they won't) for the meeting of the Electoral College? Because then Trump won't have the 270 he needs, right?
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 03:38 PM (uHcnA)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 03:39 PM (276bI)
If you see this, can you drop me a line at catman@kittentanz.com ? I think we are close neighbors! Would love to have other proud North GA Deplorable moron's meet up!
Posted by: catman at November 27, 2016 03:39 PM (22eqm)
tall Grinch to counteract the dozen plywood cutout crap my neigh or
puts up every year (well, I put it up. 8 hours yesterday, and I'm only
about 75% done).
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 27, 2016 03:32 PM (L9ISu)
So you're the architect of your own torment. Now that's a good neighbor!
Posted by: Miley, Duchess of the DSR at November 27, 2016 03:40 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: washrivergal at November 27, 2016 03:40 PM (CFc5L)
Biochem was a killer. It also required lab work that I didn't have background for.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 27, 2016 03:40 PM (vU79J)
Posted by: torabora at November 27, 2016 03:40 PM (Xmx1l)
recounts in time for the Electoral College vote would the election then
go to the House?
Posted by: deplorable donna at November 27, 2016 03:32 PM (O2RFr)
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I've seen so many differing accounts, it's hard to know what's true or not. I think I saw that MI and PA have to have a verifiable suspicion of fraud, and that the candidate asking for the recount be within a certain margin of winning. Which would leave Stein out but not Hillary. I don't know if there is fraud they can point to either. If the votes aren't certified by the Big Day, I have read that certain states can send their Electors anyway if it's reasonable to assume the votes won't change.
I don't know if any of the above is true. Ha!
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:40 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Jillery Steinton at November 27, 2016 03:40 PM (A+FdC)
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Hmm...
Hadn't thought of that.
Out of curiosity, if those states weren't included in the Electoral College totals, would Hillary have more EC votes? That still wouldn't get her the presidency (you need to have more than 50% of the total available votes, after all), but it would be enough to de-legitimize the process in the eyes of some people despite the fact that it was entirely due to Stein's shenanigans.
Posted by: junior at November 27, 2016 03:41 PM (ff27+)
Posted by: torabora at November 27, 2016 03:42 PM (Xmx1l)
Snead to Hightower for 50 yard TD.
Naturally, I left both of them on the bench.
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 03:42 PM (276bI)
Posted by: Colin at November 27, 2016 03:42 PM (mIgf1)
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2016 03:13 PM
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And a white guy will move from his mansions into public housing.
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 27, 2016 03:42 PM (Dhht7)
Posted by: torabora at November 27, 2016 03:42 PM (Xmx1l)
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No. I think I read (too lazy to look it up) that it would be something like 232 for Hillary and 260 for Trump. But because he didn't have the 270, he wouldn't automatically get the presidency just because he had more.
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 03:43 PM (uHcnA)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2016 03:44 PM (dELE3)
We do have a lot of lefty judges, so it could happen I guess.
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 27, 2016 03:44 PM (Om16U)
Posted by: torabora at November 27, 2016 03:42 PM (Xmx1l)
Where and from whom do you think Billy Jeff got the idea?
Posted by: Maggie Tredeau at November 27, 2016 03:45 PM (A+FdC)
We do have a lot of lefty judges, so it could happen I guess.
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 27, 2016 03:44 PM (Om16U)
And that is district specific I think...a real cluster fuck
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2016 03:45 PM (dELE3)
The democrat machine never sleeps.
Bolster and beat your chest up until the rules don't suit your loser ass and you get tossed.
Then after you've carefully calculated how many votes you need to steal states, call for a recount (but don't call for it yourself; have some halfwit who got 1% of the vote do it for you and then claim "process n stuff").
What a total crock of SHIT.
Even when we win in the face of ALL of their cheating tactics we STILL have to claw our way to the WH.
Fucking sickening
Posted by: groovemetal at November 27, 2016 03:46 PM (ficNf)
Take a look at www.270towin.com
You can play around with the electoral college map. It's a useful site.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 03:46 PM (42Mgr)
Posted by: torabora at November 27, 2016 03:46 PM (Xmx1l)
So, who knows what he did with some of those cigars.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 03:47 PM (DW+jj)
Are they gonna check Philly voter rolls if they recount?
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable
Were there any BlackPanther intimidators at the polls this year?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2016 03:47 PM (IqV8l)
I believe the rule is that if someone can demonstrate irregularity in one district, a judge can order a state wide recount.
This is all going to come down to finding a judge that is willing to order this kabuki and the definition of "irregularities".
I've yet to see a claim of anything abnormal save for some lefties claim the vote doesn't match polling data. Which is just dumb.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 03:48 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 27, 2016 03:48 PM (3myMJ)
Read somewhere that Kapernick had a 4.0 GPA in high school. He went to Nevada, not Cal-Berkeley. I suspect that 4.0 was "assisted" because he doesn't come across as a deep thinker. Then, that nasty fuck defensive back in Seattle sounds like a prog bumper sticker and he went to Stanford. I suspect higher education, even at high end institutions, are not as academically rigorous as they used to be.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 27, 2016 03:48 PM (SiA1k)
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 27, 2016 03:34 PM (Om16U)
other that to 2 twits who accuseed the Hacking, NO ONE & I mean NO ONE from Nate Silver to the NeverTrumper who used to be here has taken it seriously
Posted by: Evilpens at November 27, 2016 03:48 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2016 03:47 PM (IqV8l)
I'll bet the Democrat party thought they had it in the bag, and didn't bother dispatching their goon squads...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 03:48 PM (42Mgr)
Posted by: Miley
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Meh. The display is actually kind of pleasant to see from my house when its all lit up at night.
She's ecstatic, and that actually makes me smile, too.
The torment comes in working with/for her.
When you hire someone, do you stand over their shoulder the whole day telling them what they're doing wrong and how to do it right? Didn't think so.
On the plus side, I'll get to make at least $2 per hour, so I've got that going for me!
Posted by: Chi - #FreeCthulhu at November 27, 2016 03:48 PM (L9ISu)
If we were serious about combatting communism we should have fought it in Cuba with helluva lot shorter supply lines.
Posted by: navybrat at November 27, 2016 03:48 PM (w7KSn)
++++
This is what I'm talking about.
Posted by: washrivergal at November 27, 2016 03:49 PM (CFc5L)
About that uniform population..
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2016 03:49 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2016 03:47 PM (IqV8l)
I avoid news all day and night on Nov 8, so I don't know.
I know GOP poll watchers were thrown out / barred from entry.
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 27, 2016 03:49 PM (Om16U)
I believe the rule is that if someone can demonstrate irregularity in one district, a judge can order a state wide recount.
This is all going to come down to finding a judge that is willing to order this kabuki and the definition of "irregularities".
I've yet to see a claim of anything abnormal save for some lefties claim the vote doesn't match polling data. Which is just dumb.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 03:48 PM (/tuJf)
Irregularities meaning their candidate lost.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 27, 2016 03:49 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: torabora at November 27, 2016 03:46 PM (Xmx1l)
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Because Wisconsin doesn't have any restrictions as to who can contest, as long as they are on the ballot. I have a feeling that's going to change. Not in time for this go-round, of course.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:49 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 03:49 PM (DW+jj)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 03:50 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Infidel at November 27, 2016 03:50 PM (a62hT)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2016 03:29 PM (dELE3)
He must be losing again due to racism. I'll bet all of the officials are white supremacists even the black ones
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2016 03:51 PM (auHtY)
"Exactly. It was capitalism that created a prosperous, independent middle class."
The ironic thing is that almost all Commie "revolutionaries" come from the ranks of the middle class.
Not only the tryants - like Castro, Che, Lenin, Trotsky and Mao - but their university fanboys and girls.
The working classes are too busy, you know, working to revolt. They need their "betters" to lead them.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 27, 2016 03:52 PM (P8951)
Pretty much.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 03:50 PM (/tuJf)
Reminds me of a scene from the Jim Carrey movie Liar Liar:
Your honor, I object!
On what grounds?
It's absolutely devastating to my case!
Overruled!
Posted by: Insomniac at November 27, 2016 03:52 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:52 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: torabora at November 27, 2016 03:42 PM (Xmx1l)
His hammer and sickle butt plug in honor of Fidel
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2016 03:53 PM (auHtY)
The left is going to double down on the stupid in response to Trump.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 03:53 PM (DW+jj)
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And nearly all of our tech billionaires are whacked-out leftists.
And blacks keep voting democrat.
And feminists continually defend Islam.
Human beings are weird creatures.
Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2016 03:54 PM (JTuAn)
Those, along with WI, are the only states where we're talking about recounts, as far as I know.
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 03:54 PM (sdi6R)
You can play around with the electoral college map. It's a useful site.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 03:46 PM (42Mgr)
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Thanks, CBD. Now I can see where the 260 number I saw comes from. Right now he has 290, plus the 16 from MI that he has not yet been awarded, so it's just 290. If the 10 from WI and the 20 from PA go into limbo because of recounts, then he only has 260.
Ugh ugh ugh. This needs to end, and soon.
Posted by: bluebell at November 27, 2016 03:55 PM (uHcnA)
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at November 27, 2016 03:55 PM (di1hb)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 03:53 PM (DW+jj)
Well we can only hope so! LOL
Go Keith Ellison GO!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2016 03:55 PM (dELE3)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 03:53 PM (DW+jj)
And I think we should let them!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2016 03:55 PM (42Mgr)
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:55 PM (dFi94)
The left is going to double down on the stupid in response to Trump.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 03:53 PM (DW+jj)
Yes, Democrats. Become the "No White Males Need Apply" party. That will work wonders for your brand.
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 03:56 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2016 03:56 PM (JTuAn)
Other way around. Tomorrow is D Day in Pennsylvania.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 03:57 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: SFGoth at November 27, 2016 03:57 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 27, 2016 03:57 PM (P8951)
Posted by: josephistan at November 27, 2016 03:58 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2016 03:58 PM (r/0kC)
Bernie and Howie = KKK. Yes, Keith Ellison for DNC chair. Encourage them.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 27, 2016 03:58 PM (DW+jj)
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Sort of like the revolts in Africa. "Kill da white people! Kill da white people!" (Kills the white people; looks around; scratches head.) "Um... OK... Anyone here know how to run a farm?"
Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2016 03:58 PM (JTuAn)
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:55 PM (dFi94)
You're right.
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 03:58 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: HH at November 27, 2016 03:59 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:59 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: josephistan at November 27, 2016 03:58 PM (7qAYi)
Me neither. I'm checking the score online.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 27, 2016 03:59 PM (P8951)
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 03:55 PM (dFi94)
Deadline to get an okay to recount?
Posted by: washrivergal at November 27, 2016 03:59 PM (CFc5L)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 04:00 PM (276bI)
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Sort of like the revolts in Africa. "Kill da white people! Kill da white people!" (Kills the white people; looks around; scratches head.) "Um... OK... Anyone here know how to run a farm?"
Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2016 03:58 PM (JTuAn)
Still be plenty of white idiots that will vote for them. Look at the BLM protests - half the people there are white.
Posted by: josephistan at November 27, 2016 04:00 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: grammie winger
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Photoshop and a buttload of card stock.
Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2016 04:00 PM (JTuAn)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2016 04:00 PM (IqV8l)
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Hmm...
Hadn't thought of that.
Out of curiosity, if those states weren't included in the Electoral
College totals, would Hillary have more EC votes? That still wouldn't
get her the presidency (you need to have more than 50% of the total
available votes, after all), but it would be enough to de-legitimize the
process in the eyes of some people despite the fact that it was
entirely due to Stein's shenanigans.
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.None of this makes any difference whatsoever. The left is trying to delegitimize the Trump win. It's all B$ even if they toss Wisconsin to hillary because she still won't win. She needs to sweep all three States to win and that is not going to happen.
As noted above if no candidate is at 270 or better the House decides the election. That is what I think they are trying to make happen. I mean Trump won PA by over 70,000 votes, that's way outside the margin of fraud and error so that State is not going to flip.
Disclaimer: If that did somehow manage to happen it would be Civil War 2.0
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 27, 2016 04:00 PM (iONHu)
They kind of have to. What else do they have?
Posted by: t-bird at November 27, 2016 04:02 PM (k8DTS)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 04:02 PM (/tuJf)
Fidel was 6'3
Pierre Trudeau was 5'8
And Justin Castro looks identical to a young Fidel Castro as the pictures in the thread prove. And Maggie banged him and many others.
Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 27, 2016 04:02 PM (A+FdC)
Posted by: washrivergal at November 27, 2016 03:59 PM (CFc5L)
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Ya, I think they have to submit their request by the end of the business day. I'm not sure how long the Sec of State has to respond. I would assume quickly since we're up against a deadline.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 04:03 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 27, 2016 04:03 PM (Om16U)
Yes.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 04:02 PM (/tuJf)
And didn't they do the same thing in Wisconsin? Wait until the last possible day to file for the recount?
Afterall if the goal is to make it go as long as possible and cause havoc around the electoral college vote you want to wait until the last moment.
Because they would love to shout and cry about the electoral college voting while "Recounts are still going on!"
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 04:04 PM (bMG0w)
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90 minutes before closing time.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 04:05 PM (dFi94)
How prog-guru John Podesta isn't household name as world class underage sex slave op cover-upperer defending unspeakable dregs escapes me.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Posted by: Evilpens at November 27, 2016 04:06 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 04:06 PM (dFi94)
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90 minutes before closing time.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 04:05 PM (dFi94)
Yeah so talking about how "tomorrow is the deadline so its not gonna happen!" is pretty fucking stupid. Their goal is to do it at the last possible second.
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 04:06 PM (bMG0w)
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No Pa. is you have to go to court & show proof of chicanery
Posted by: Evilpens at November 27, 2016 04:07 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2016 04:08 PM (r/0kC)
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Look, man, it was a "handkerchief" with a "pizza related map" that I left somewhere while "playing dominoes on pasta!"
Why does that sound so suspicious to you?!!!!
Posted by: Podesta The Molesta at November 27, 2016 04:09 PM (JTuAn)
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2016 04:09 PM (r/0kC)
If somehow, all 3 States are not able to finish the recounts in time for
the Electoral College vote would the election then go to the House?
Posted by: deplorable donna at November 27, 2016 03:32 PM (O2RFr)
So far only WI has said there would be a recount.
Got interrupted by damn neighbor wanting a ride to get cigarettes because she has already had a jar of my liquor and didn't get cigarettes first. So here is what I found
Michigan - 10
Pennsylvania - 20
Wisconsin - 16
Total 46
Total Electoral votes - 538, 270 needed to win Trump has 306 306 - 46 = 266 Scank has 232. 232 + 46 = 278. So if she somehow manages to take ALL 3 States yes, she wins. But there would have to be some powerful cheating to take all three. Not very likely.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 04:11 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 27, 2016 04:11 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 27, 2016 04:11 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 04:11 PM (mpXpK)
Hence why its not going to be about actually overturning the results. But just have the recounts set to go longer than when the EC votes.
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 04:13 PM (bMG0w)
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 04:13 PM (bMG0w)
The EV's will be counted even if the recounts keep going and going and going.
There will be have to be a law in place by Dec 13 or action by a Court by same date to stop EV's from being counted.
Again the Federal law where it is spelled out.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/5
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 27, 2016 04:18 PM (d76uN)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 27, 2016 04:18 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 04:19 PM (276bI)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 04:19 PM (276bI)
Go dancing flouncer!
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 27, 2016 04:23 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 27, 2016 04:26 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: torabora at November 27, 2016 04:26 PM (Xmx1l)
Just saw on TV that SF lost.
K's average as QB is, what, 2-10?
This looks like reason enough to lose him in January. Who will pick him up ... Detroit?
Posted by: Arbalest at November 27, 2016 04:26 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2016 04:29 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 27, 2016 04:00 PM (iONHu)
Oh yeah.
Us deplorable rednecks are not gonna just shrug our shoulders and say oh, Hillary wins after all, ok.
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 27, 2016 04:30 PM (Om16U)
Posted by: torabora at November 27, 2016 04:31 PM (Xmx1l)
Posted by: logprof at November 27, 2016 04:39 PM (276bI)
Seems it worked really well FOR HIM.
Posted by: scoville at November 27, 2016 04:40 PM (hWh8W)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 27, 2016 04:00 PM (iONHu)
Ima keep saying this til people finally catch on:
Civil War 2.0 has been going on for several years now. It just hasn't gotten to the actual shooting part yet.
Until enough people understand this, the Prog scum will just keep pushing. Not enough people understand that our greatest enemy is other Americans, and that only one thing will fix it.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 27, 2016 04:42 PM (ngWeP)
The EV's will be counted even if the recounts keep going and going and going.
There will be have to be a law in place by Dec 13 or action by a Court by same date to stop EV's from being counted.
Again the Federal law where it is spelled out.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/5
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 27, 2016 04:18 PM (d76uN)
But I don't think its really about stopping the EC from voting. Its about ginning up the outrage that they are voting even while the recount are ongoing. Gotta flare that anger up again before the actual inauguration. Having those recounts going let's them scream "Illegitimate!" even louder
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 04:47 PM (bMG0w)
Howard Dean was too white and
Formal, mathematical proofs exist showing that "too male" does not and cannot be applied to Howie.
Posted by: Yeeeeeaaarrrrggghhhhh at November 27, 2016 04:53 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 27, 2016 04:53 PM (3myMJ)
Is Castro gonna get the standard commie-god treatment?
Stuffed, glass coffin, overblown mausoleum routine?
Posted by: YIKES! at November 27, 2016 04:57 PM (yfObW)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob
This is why only Costco-sized stores can sell liquor in Washington State. Costco bought that legislation.
Posted by: scoville at November 27, 2016 04:59 PM (hWh8W)
But I don't think its really about stopping the EC from voting. Its about ginning up the outrage that they are voting even while the recount are ongoing. Gotta flare that anger up again before the actual inauguration. Having those recounts going let's them scream "Illegitimate!" even louder
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 04:47 PM (bMG0w)
But don't dare question their patriotism!
Posted by: rickl - THE MEDIA IS LYING TO YOU at November 27, 2016 05:03 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Cheri at November 27, 2016 05:09 PM (TmVQX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at November 27, 2016 05:09 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: buzzion at November 27, 2016 04:47 PM (bMG0w)
They can shout all they want. We don't have to play their game. Get your weapons ready.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at November 27, 2016 05:22 PM (d76uN)
Posted by: Empire1 at November 27, 2016 05:24 PM (3U8SO)
Posted by: deplorable donna at November 27, 2016 05:39 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 27, 2016 05:41 PM (3myMJ)
Selected not elected redux?
Yup....
Posted by: deplorable donna at November 27, 2016 05:41 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 27, 2016 05:49 PM (3myMJ)
Dems lose 55 sure electoral votes and have to completely change in order to compete in the rest of America.
Trade agreement with CA screws them.
Everyone not in CA lives happily ever after.
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly all the way at November 27, 2016 05:54 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 27, 2016 05:55 PM (7cmcE)
Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 27, 2016 05:58 PM (Om16U)
stressed out about getting ready for Christmas while having problems at
work. Told her I'd be asking here, and have her permission, so anything
you other Morons can do would be appreciated.
Posted by: Empire1 at November 27, 2016 05:24 PM (3U8SO)
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Will do, Empire 1. "Casting all your cares upon Him, because He cares for you."
The idea behind the word "cast" is to throw, or to toss. So heave your anxieties onto the shoulders of God. He will take the weight, because He really does care about you."
I hope Robin gets some peace and rest.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 05:58 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: grammie winger at November 27, 2016 06:00 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 27, 2016 06:19 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Ned Reid at November 27, 2016 06:36 PM (Nnmy9)
* as an ethnic Spaniard, Castro had little use for other races of Cubans.
* he stole from poor and gave to the rich
* he began as a charismatic nationalist and became a military dictator
* he sent his goon squads into the neighborhoods to round up undesirables
* he silenced the critical press
* he built a prison wall around his nation
In short, he actually DID all the horrible things the Left accuses Donald Trump of doing--yet they worship Fidel and hate the Donald!
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 27, 2016 08:09 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Dr Weevil at November 28, 2016 12:12 AM (I7A6b)
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