Some Commenters Are Saying I Misread, Or Over-read, AllahPundit's Post

Here's the specific section I found objectionable. Bolding mine. Some of the bolding supports commenters' claims that AllahPundit is just being neutral and analytical here, describing the situation as it is; other bolding supports my take-away that he's essentially grumbling the Trumpers are, well, deplorable:

The follow-up statement might be enough to protect them in court but the publicity damage has been done. Trumpers seem to have long memories -- about some things. About other things, like the conservative belief that businesses should be able to hire and fire whomever they please because they're private entities, memories might be shorter. But then, that’s true to the spirit of Trumpism, which to some degree is about making the left play by its own rules. Conservatives warned liberals for years that racial identity politics is poisonous to national unity, but Trump won because many working-class (and college-educated) whites voted the way other racial blocs do. Likewise, if the left wants to make it illegal for a Christian business owner to decline service for a gay wedding on conscience grounds, then laws prohibiting retaliation for political activity will be scrupulously applied to GrubHub too. Trump's formal campaign slogan was "Make America Great Again," but really, in practice, "It's Payback Time" would have worked as well.

What I guess I'm zooming in on is tone, which I see here as being grumbling, antagonistic, and condescending.

But "tone" is a very nuanced thing and I may in fact be over-reading here. I can't help but add in the external information I already have about AP's general stance about "Trumpian" spirits.

I don't see it as "Trumpian" to punish a Social Justice Warrior, as if this is some deviation from the Vow of Total and Complete Political Pacifism that exactly none of us have ever sworn to.

I consider it a rather obvious thing -- when they step over the line employing an untoward tactic, you are free to use that same tactic against them -- which has a long, long pedigree.

The idea that this vengeful, intolerant spirit of using the same Social Punishment tactics against those who themselves use Social Punishment tactics is a new thing created by Trump and only subscribed to by Trumpers is... let us say, ahistorical and without support in the literature.

There is a potent and respectable ethic of total pacificism and refusal to retaliate for wrongs in existence. Jesus' turn-the-other-cheek ethic is one example of it.

But that ethic is 1, extremely hard to live by and thus more of a Heroic Ideal than a rule which is observed by most on a day to day basis, and 2, often widely taken to be "metaphor" (I personally disagree -- I think he meant it), and 3, almost never observed in politics.

I would respect someone attempting to live by that ethic -- but I don't really respect the pretense that this is just something we all commonly do in our everyday lives, and failure to maintain fidelity to this ethic is some kind of flaw or deviation, either of the "Trumpian" variety or simple character flaw variety.

And where the hell do conservatives keep getting the idea that people get special rights to be free of all criticism or ostracism -- even if they're playing the game of ostracism and coercion themselves! -- simply because they own a business?

That's a similar rule to liberals claiming media workers have special rights that "civilian" citizens do not.

I don't care what your fucking job is. No special rights. The rules apply to all or the rules apply to none.

This Maloney asshole may implement his policy (in some jurisdictions, at least, where it's not illegal) -- but I am free to implement my policy as fucking well.

And my policy is that I reject and resist attempts to create a Second Class Citizenship for conservatives.

What's everyone else's? Are Principled Conservatives now on board with the project to turn conservatives into official, state-recognized Second Class Citizens?

This isn't a "Trumpian" issue -- this is an issue, if you haven't noticed, which has been going on for years, and in fact was #WhyYouGotTrump.

Trump was not the cause of the issue; the issue was the cause of Trump.

But some people seem to think, as people thought with Obama, that politics began precisely at the moment the results of the last election were called.

Eh. Decide for yourselves.

I think the biggest divider in this "political" discussion is not political at all. It's psychological -- do you lean more to the Deference side of things, or the Defiance side of things?

Obviously I'm on the Defiance side. And I'll be damned to Hell before I willing participate in -- validate -- a never-ending push to deligitimize me as a human being by claiming that I cannot do certain things but my Social Superiors may do them.

If this asshole can boycott his Trumpian employees, then I can damn-sure boycott his business.

No special rules for special people. Not another fucking inch more down that road.

I think it was Camus who suggested that the central affirmation of one's existence was the capacity to refuse, the capacity to say "No."

I'm saying no.

I refuse.

Posted by: Ace at 04:26 PM

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1 That's a similar rule to liberals claiming media workers have special rights that "civilian" citizens do not.

I agree with this. They have the right to kiss my ass.

Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 04:25 PM (LAe3v)

2 I'm with you Ace.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 11, 2016 04:26 PM (xInes)

3 Content-y.

Posted by: garrett at November 11, 2016 04:26 PM (6ToNi)

4 Jam it right back up their squeekhole.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 11, 2016 04:26 PM (QM5S2)

5 Undercover conservative here. My work is full of liberals and many of them will spout off as though of course everybody shares that mindset. Once in a while I will shock them by calling them out on some snide insulting thing.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 11, 2016 04:27 PM (dkExz)

6 No Ace, you're wrong. You read it right the first time. So you're right. Did I make sense?

Posted by: Guest of the Scotts at November 11, 2016 04:27 PM (T+gE4)

7 Allahpundit is probably just glad someone read a post.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at November 11, 2016 04:27 PM (x4zgf)

8 OT, but it's a continuation, so okay. Pence is displacing Christie as the head of the transition team. Could be that Trump didn't like the job he was doing, or that he's picked him for something else and wants him to get on it immediately.

Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 04:28 PM (LAe3v)

9 Shouldn't we follow the wise advice of the USS Clueless? Tit for tat is always the best strategy.

Posted by: davedaveadavarf at November 11, 2016 04:28 PM (0+srV)

10 Eh....I think it is critical and condescending, and the faint mockery of identity politics is virtue signalling done subtly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 11, 2016 04:29 PM (42Mgr)

11 The virtue signaling never stops with clueless never trumping fucks like Analpundit.

Is it really impossible for these bumfucks to espouse their views without coming across as a smarmy, insufferable elitist?

Posted by: #AlwaysTrump - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 11, 2016 04:29 PM (cDWx2)

12 Please Click the Link.

Posted by: Allapundit at November 11, 2016 04:29 PM (6ToNi)

13 What I guess I'm zooming in on is tone, which I see here as being grumbling, antagonistic, and condescending.

Allahpundit? Antagonistic and condescending to people? Doesn't sound a thing like him.

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 04:29 PM (z/Ubi)

14 You're totally right ace

Posted by: village idiot at November 11, 2016 04:29 PM (bf86X)

15 I haven't read any of that, but I'm trying to work up my winners and losers list.

Winners:

1) Scott Adams

2) Climate Skeptics

3) Bakery and pizzeria owners

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 04:29 PM (TppKb)

16 So, is "Trumpian" the new "racist" or whatever slur?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 11, 2016 04:29 PM (IqV8l)

17 Eh. Decide for yourselves.

I choose to be magnanimous in victory. Then when I've lulled my enemies into a false sense of security, I strike like the tiger.

Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 04:30 PM (LAe3v)

18 Christie is reviewing potential WH Pastry Chefs.

Posted by: garrett at November 11, 2016 04:30 PM (6ToNi)

19 >> So, is "Trumpian" the new "racist" or whatever slur?

Wait. I only just ordered my Deplorable T-shirt. You mean I need another one?

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 04:30 PM (TppKb)

20 4) Middle class health insurance consumers

Posted by: davedaveadavarf at November 11, 2016 04:30 PM (0+srV)

21 Ace, this is hilarious.

Military members on Trump win: It is like the day Bin Laden was killed.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/qhtss8j

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 11, 2016 04:30 PM (7ZVPa)

22 The progtards created these rules. They can damn well be held to them.

Posted by: Butch at November 11, 2016 04:31 PM (hXu8T)

23 We almost went over the edge, to a woman that openly stated she supports "global governance".

Hilda privately promoted open markets open border for the hemisphere, and her biggest money was from globalists and foreign countries.

We had patriots being called racists and xenophobes, and top Republicans renege on their promise to support the Republican candidate.

Trump pushed America First ... what do we care what the enemy calls us, for wanting America First, not open borders? Nothing ... 40 years of attacks and PC dominance ... of course putting America first will offend them, and they will perceive their loss as US being vindictive.

Drain the Swamp ... they are a bunch of globalist criminals. call them what you will.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 11, 2016 04:31 PM (LhGBu)

24 So I'm not undercover, but I mostly don't talk politics at work, or any public setting where it would be rude to start a spirited discussion that does not pertain to the purpose of the gathering. Libs OTOH are great at inserting some political jab at people they think are absent from the group into every venue. I may make a point of calling out such BS rudeness more often.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 11, 2016 04:31 PM (dkExz)

25 I saw this over at Weasel zippers
The video shows what many are calling child abuse (psychological, but just as damaging).

I wish I could shove it in Van Jone's face.
Its very disturbing. I watched it once, and cannot watch it again. I got way too angry. I link it here again, though because I think it needs to be seen. It makes a great follow on the video Ace linked to Jonathan Pie.

Trigger? Whatever. it will piss you off. As it should piss off everyone.
http://tinyurl.com/jyc3t7k

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 04:31 PM (5Z34V)

26 Palerider, I'm a teacher with two and 3/4 degrees (master's plus ABD Ph.D). I refuse to discuss politics or have it discussed in front of me--I'll leave if those I"m with prefer that conversation to my company. My colleagues would be shocked if they knew how I voted.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at November 11, 2016 04:32 PM (vLoLa)

27 And I will repeat what I said rephrasing it. Both sides are attacking the same strawman here, The wedding cake issue was a State issue because OR has a specific law that prohibited what those bakers did. its a bad law, but that is not the point.

On the other side there is no federal law at all prohibiting employers from firing employees over political disagreement. So that too would have to be a State law. And if the State is a right to work State employers can fire anyone, at any time, for any reason. As long it does not fall under federal discrimination statutes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 11, 2016 04:32 PM (mpXpK)

28 Avenge Me.

Posted by: Cecil the Lion at November 11, 2016 04:32 PM (6ToNi)

29 I like pep's...pep.

I believe that Conservatives have important issues to fight for: small government, personal liberty, religious freedom, justice and accountability. Those are worth fighting for.

I'm using the word 'fight' advisedly, we are in a fight. We, finally, may....MAY be in the position to inflict some damage on a foe that has for 40 years or more been trying to change America into it's own vision of socialist Europe.

Hit 'em. Hit 'em hard, keep hitting them. Get the twist on them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 11, 2016 04:33 PM (UHLlC)

30 Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 04:31 PM (5Z34V)

I saw this, it was just brutal. Very disturbing and uncomfortable to watch. This is exactly what the marxist indoctrination demands, mothers turning on their own children.

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2016 04:33 PM (jkmtt)

31 Trump won because many working-class (and college-educated) whites voted the way other racial blocs do.

Trump won because many ~~working-class (and college-educated) whites~~ voters voted ~~the way other racial blocs do~~.

Fixed that for him.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at November 11, 2016 04:33 PM (lpHNf)

32 AP is really only pissed about one thing. His newly found irrelevance.

In keeping with that...

I've decided to be grateful for some of President Obama's accomplishments in office and I've found some things to be grateful about:

Tens of millions of new guns and new gun owners in homes around the country. (Good for the 2nd Amendment's survival.)

900 new Republican state legislators in 8 years.

Republican state senate and house legislative majorities in 33 states.

Republican Governor count: 33.

Republican majorities in the Senate and the House.

A future with a more conservative Supreme Court than we would otherwise see.

A removal of any excuse from the GOPe for why they can't get things done in Washington D.C.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at November 11, 2016 04:34 PM (3myMJ)

33 Over/under on when the margins get blown?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 11, 2016 04:34 PM (kTF2Z)

34 I saw this, it was just brutal. Very disturbing and uncomfortable to watch. This is exactly what the marxist indoctrination demands, mothers turning on their own children.

It upset me too... I just wanted to pick that little boy up and take Him away ...

Posted by: deplorable donna at November 11, 2016 04:34 PM (O2RFr)

35 It's the Left that's racist. Except they won't admit because nothing is ever transitive with the Left.

While some of Trump's support is Payback, there's a lot more to it than that.

e.g. I've got a big problem with Illegal Immigration, and there's nothing racist about it. If it were one million Illegals I wouldn't care. When it may actually be 30 million and our federal government is actively promoting it, I have a big problem.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 11, 2016 04:34 PM (SIY7D)

36 It really is irritating.

I used to use Grubhub on a semi-regular basis, and they did a pretty good job most of the time.

Why couldn't they just leave it at that? Why does everything have to become political?

Total f*cking asshat.

Posted by: Kensington at November 11, 2016 04:35 PM (7Kbxu)

37 I boycott there I am?

Posted by: SFGoth at November 11, 2016 04:35 PM (dZ756)

38 My colleagues would be shocked if they knew how I voted.
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom

No they wouldn't They identify each other by their virtue signaling and you aren't participating.

They know.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at November 11, 2016 04:35 PM (3myMJ)

39 I've come to the conclusion that many of the never Trump people were so because they were trying to play politics under rules and for a country which quite honestly is dead, or at best gravely ill. The original post from Ace earlier today talked about rules of engagement, and I think that is correct. We are in a war at the moment, and thankfully only figuratively.

I think that is what is going on here. Mr. AllahPundit is attempting to argue and fight under rules and for a country which no longer exists. Afraid that is not going to work anymore.

Posted by: moon over vermont at November 11, 2016 04:35 PM (kUmUV)

40 Why couldn't they just leave it at that? Why does everything have to become political?

My guess is that Maloney is polishing up his CV as we speak.

Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 04:36 PM (LAe3v)

41
The video shows what many are calling child abuse (psychological, but just as damaging).
I wish I could shove it in Van Jone's face.

Jones would blame Trump without skipping a beat.
I see these assholes all over TV blaming Trump for all the violence. It's like blaming the rape victim.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 11, 2016 04:36 PM (IqV8l)

42 >>Trump won because many working-class (and college-educated) whites voted the way other racial blocs do.

This is just spectacularly wrong.

As is Allahpundit's analysis of the difference between a Christian bakery refusing to make a cake for a gay wedding celebration being the same as a publicly held company seeking to terminate employees for having "bad" political views.

The Christian baker had no problem serving gays and had in fact served this same couple before. What they objected to was being forced to part of a ceremony that went against their Constitutionally protected faith.

Employees of GrubHub who supported Trump weren't trying coerce anyone to move to their beliefs or force them to support Trump. It had zero impact on their job performance or the companies performance. Nobody was refusing to serve Hillary supporters.

This was just sloppy thinking to justify another slap at conservatives who supported Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 04:36 PM (/tuJf)

43 At some point Jazz Shaw became the only guy I could read at Hot Air without rolling my eyes.

Posted by: Kensington at November 11, 2016 04:36 PM (7Kbxu)

44 Time for AllahPundit to go join Charles Johnson and Little Green Footballs in Chucky's mom's basement.

Posted by: One-eyed Cat Peepin' in the Seafood Store at November 11, 2016 04:36 PM (aeVIR)

45 I'm hoping a big helping of smack down is coming, starting in middle of January.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 04:36 PM (GH68B)

46 Have they found Frank Luntz's body, yet?

Posted by: garrett at November 11, 2016 04:36 PM (6ToNi)

47 I WILL admit to being amused at the antics of some of the most virulent NeverTrumpers; a lot of them are so richly enjoying the meltdown of lefty jagoffs everywhere, and it seems to escape them that this was one of the reasons to VOTE for Trump in the first place.

I'm looking at you, Steven Miller of The Wilderness. But certainly he's not the only one, by far.

It reminds me of the story about Grant explaining Sherman's role in pinning down masses of Confederate troops in Grant's grand beat-the-South strategy, and Lincoln summing it up as:

"I see; if Sherman can't skin, he can at least hold a leg while somebody else skins."

These people were too hoity-toity to at least hold a leg, but they want the best part of the hide to adorn themselves.

Not happening. Nope. Sorry.

Maybe a hoof to gnaw at.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 11, 2016 04:37 PM (nd1zx)

48 I don't see Trump winning as payback.

I see it more like Holy Jesus in heaven, we came THISCLOSE to committing national suicide.

Posted by: #AlwaysTrump - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 11, 2016 04:37 PM (cDWx2)

49 44 Time for AllahPundit to go join Charles Johnson and Little Green Footballs in Chucky's mom's basement.

Yup...

Posted by: deplorable donna at November 11, 2016 04:37 PM (O2RFr)

50 It upset me too... I just wanted to pick that little boy up and take Him away ...
Posted by: deplorable donna at November 11, 2016 04:34 PM (O2RFr)

I can imagine this being the entertainment at one of Pedosta's spirit cooking events and him and Huma cackling wildly at their success in social engineering.

God help us all.

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2016 04:37 PM (jkmtt)

51 Allah seemed to become a conservative after 9/11, I wonder if his heart was ever in it, Morrissey is the same way. If you want your conservatism with an order of teeth-nashing and a side of the vapors, they're your guys. If you have any balls, they're not. They're basically political pussies, and not the good grabby kind.

Posted by: DONALD TRUMP!! at November 11, 2016 04:37 PM (4e+hS)

52 I think that is what is going on here. Mr. AllahPundit is attempting to argue and fight under rules and for a country which no longer exists. Afraid that is not going to work anymore.

I agree, and that doesn't mean he was ill-intentioned. He probably thought he was doing the right thing.

I'll point out that most of the country was anti-war before Pearl Harbor. Sometimes a hard jolt is required to make people see reality. It's an open question how many of the Dems will see the light.

Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 04:38 PM (LAe3v)

53 OT, but it's a continuation, so okay. Pence is displacing Christie as the head of the transition team. Could be that Trump didn't like the job he was doing, or that he's picked him for something else and wants him to get on it immediately.
Posted by: pep
...........
Pence is the ultimate Washington insider. He's much better suited than Christie who has known only NJ politics.

I'm sure there will be a place for Christie in a Trump administration though.

In the kitchen???

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 11, 2016 04:38 PM (so+oy)

54 "No they wouldn't They identify each other by their virtue signaling and you aren't participating."
=======

Yeah, this might be true, and everyone around me at work is virtue-signalling on a daily basis.

I just don't have the energy to fake that, though, so I just keep my head down and try to focus on my work.

Posted by: Kensington at November 11, 2016 04:38 PM (7Kbxu)

55 AP has been trolling his readers for years with his end of day qoutes. I never understood why people kept going back there. Salem stock was tanking the last time I checked. Maybe that's why he has his panties in a wad about boycotting.

Posted by: ryukyu at November 11, 2016 04:39 PM (5hp5+)

56 Are Principled Conservatives now on board with the project to turn conservatives into official, state-recognized Second Class Citizens?

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Will being a Second Class Citizen help us get into good schools?

Posted by: SH at November 11, 2016 04:39 PM (gmeXX)

57 Vic. So no federal law, which is a good thing (although if any CEO said "Hillary voters should resign") the EEOC or whatever would find that protected groups are likely to be Hillary voters and therefore such a statement was very illegal.

Fine, liberals always want a law. We should be content with personal sanctions like never having anything to do with grubhub or any other company that pulls this kind of BS. And maybe even listing which other companies use them and which don't and personally choosing to go so far as a 2nd order boycott.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 11, 2016 04:39 PM (dkExz)

58 I'm sure there will be a place for Christie in a Trump administration though.

He's perfect for the 'Building Bridges to the Opposition' position.

You know, the bridges that rout you off six lanes of concrete onto a dirt road leading into a canal.

Those kind of bridges.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 11, 2016 04:40 PM (nd1zx)

59 I just want an Administration to be faithful to the Constitution and govern accordingly; but in all honesty, "It's Payback Time" does work for me to a certain degree.

Posted by: Qoheleth at November 11, 2016 04:41 PM (iIzG7)

60 On Wednesday the associate pastor at my church posted on FB: The feurer presidency begins. This from an Afrikaner who became a U.S. citizen. Told him I was offended and suggested he learn to spell. From here on out if a SJW goes to the Hitler comparison I walk away. As grandma said: there are sticks and then there are fucksticks.

Posted by: WASP & Unashamed at November 11, 2016 04:41 PM (gwG9s)

61 Damn sock.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 11, 2016 04:41 PM (4e+hS)

62 I'm sorry, but yes, we should absolutely use the same tactics against them until they say uncle and stop the bull or we can make them watch the scene from Wargames where the computer plays tic-tac-toe with itself. The first option is satisfying and instructive.

Posted by: no good deed at November 11, 2016 04:42 PM (/O5Ax)

63 If you don't enforce your boundaries then they will never stop encroaching.

Because they are roaches.

Posted by: @Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 11, 2016 04:42 PM (Om16U)

64 I'm just hanging around until the margins get fucked up.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 11, 2016 04:43 PM (qJhUV)

65 Krispy Kreme dumped as Head of Trump Transition team for Pence

Posted by: Evilpens at November 11, 2016 04:43 PM (y3aQB)

66 Seriously I wonder when we will start seeing appointments for Trump's administration.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 04:43 PM (GH68B)

67 >> Will being a Second Class Citizen help us get into
>> good schools?

In California you line up behind the DREAMers and the rich Mideasterners and Russians.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 04:43 PM (TppKb)

68 Your analysis is correct, Ace. Without trying to fight the whole NeverTrump war again, it's plain that they still have some lashing out in their quiver. Ignore them and their behavior for a few weeks. Or more.

Posted by: Afroman at November 11, 2016 04:43 PM (Z5KE5)

69 I'm getting the same tone you are, Ace.

One of the main reasons the GOPe keeps losing is this "I'm above such tactics" attitude, the not fighting back.

So the Trump fought back. Unapologetically.
And the #NeverTrumpers/GOPe was repulsed.

Why are they now feigning surprise that his supporters are - get this! - fighting back against those who tried so damn hard to sink Trump?

I guess they feel the need to once again assert their superiority over us deplorables.

*YAWN*

Posted by: Lizzy at November 11, 2016 04:44 PM (NOIQH)

70 The better explanation for Trumpism is that it's re-branding the R party, which always had a clubbish classist tinge that limited its brand appeal.

If Trump has an effective first term I can see lots more minorities and disaffected others in the D party switching sides. Because at the national level, the D Party is now about promoting the interests of The Borg above all else.

Again, an analogy to NYC urban politics can be made. Rudy barely beat Dinkins in 1993, but in 1997 even Manhattan voted for Rudy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 11, 2016 04:44 PM (SIY7D)

71 I'm sorry, but yes, we should absolutely use the same tactics against them until they say uncle and stop the bull or we can make them watch the scene from Wargames where the computer plays tic-tac-toe with itself.

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I'm always open to watching War Games.

But in seriousness, there are some tactics that I am willing to use against them, but not all. Using the law against them - sure. But I'd rather we just repeal these dumb laws.

Posted by: SH at November 11, 2016 04:44 PM (gmeXX)

72 57
Vic. So no federal law, which is a good thing (although if any CEO said
"Hillary voters should resign") the EEOC or whatever would find that
protected groups are likely to be Hillary voters and therefore such a
statement was very illegal.

Fine, liberals always want a law. We should be content with
personal sanctions like never having anything to do with grubhub or any
other company that pulls this kind of BS. And maybe even listing which
other companies use them and which don't and personally choosing to go
so far as a 2nd order boycott.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 11, 2016 04:39 PM (dkExz)

The EEOC is another one of those BS parts of the DOJ that Trump should eliminate. And I am sure that under Trump they will be reigned in. As for the other I don't know what States this "Grubhub" operates out of but I would have no problem with a boycott against them if they elect to fire people for any reason. Even if they have a "right" to fire someone sometimes it is wise to think twice about it. Especially if you are a company that sells/deals with the public as your customers.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 11, 2016 04:44 PM (mpXpK)

73 I am debating writing, in Sharpie, Obama is not my Preznit on my forehead for liberal in-law dinner tomorrow.

I am still bathing in liberal tears, draining tub, refilling. Repeat. While swilling really good champagne and laughing my fat arse off.

They can riot til Soros' money runs out and it gets too cold for the delicate hurt fweelings. They can write petitions until they black out from rage.

Snowflakes need to have civics and economics in skool again to understand the democratic process.

It is a pity they are such wackos they cannot see themselves for the weak wussies they are. For example, libs, when we lost to Obarfy twice in the past hideous years, we did not riot that I am aware of. Could be wrong! I know I shed about two private tears THEN I MOVED ON WITH LIFE.

My retaliation was to snark, you wimpy babies weeping on Fakebook. I sharpened my mad skillz to snark on the O's and Hilz like no body's bidness. Did I make a fool out of myself wailing on youtube? Nope! Did I riot? Nope! Did I call a shrink? Nope!

Ben Garrison has an excellent cartoon of the wailing masses. I also saw a twitter meme of a kayaker riding the rapids on the tears of the liberals.

Seriously, libs...are you so unaware of your idiotic behavior in response to losing an election that you don't hear us laughing? Clueless! I am enjoying it. Cry and riot some more. But never, ever, think that you nominated an incredibly flawed and corrupt sick candidate. An old hag who is fake as heck with her cackling diseased tongue on display. An elitist that you despise, you little wee minions of stupid. She has a corruption list that would fill a book. She is married to a rapist. She ripped off Haiti. She sold 1/3 of our uranium to Russia for a speech Bill gave and received half a million dollars. Once Algeria paid her Foundation she had them lifted off the terrorist list. She LIED to the parents of the four Americans killed in Benghazi over their flag-draped bodies at Dover Airfield. Yet, she is pure as the driven snow, right? Or the snow after the Huskie peed on it.

For you uninformed weenies, er, weiners (ahahahhahaha), when your tears clear and your eyes unpuff, look at the youtube Clinton Cash to learn more of how her Foundation, which gave only 6% of billions to charity, works.

Oh, and BITE MOI! xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,Deplorable Infidel Queen at November 11, 2016 04:44 PM (Cx8BK)

74 On the other side there is no federal law at all prohibiting employers
from firing employees over political disagreement. So that too would
have to be a State law. And if the State is a right to work State
employers can fire anyone, at any time, for any reason. As long it does
not fall under federal discrimination statutes.
---
That he is not under legal jeopardy is no reason for the rest of us to retaliate against someone who got in our faces about being our enemy.

Posted by: Methos at November 11, 2016 04:44 PM (3Liv/)

75
Camus?! Formidable, Monsieur Ace!

Mais, des Camembert?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 04:44 PM (mbhDw)

76 64 I'm just hanging around until the margins get fucked up.

--

You mean blown.

Either way it's margin p0rn

Posted by: @Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 11, 2016 04:45 PM (Om16U)

77 I don't fit the left's stereotype of a Trump voter, and I don't fit the right's stereotype of a teacher.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at November 11, 2016 04:45 PM (vLoLa)

78
Something about petards and foisting. I kind of dig that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 04:45 PM (mbhDw)

79 So the Trump fought back. Unapologetically.
And the #NeverTrumpers/GOPe was repulsed.

-------------

I don't think that's it.

Posted by: SH at November 11, 2016 04:45 PM (gmeXX)

80 One of the main reasons the GOPe keeps losing is this "I'm above such tactics" attitude, the not fighting back.

That's not necessarily the reason. As Don Corleone so eloquently put it, "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer". Only you have to know which they you consider them to be.

Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 04:45 PM (LAe3v)

81 >> On the other side there is no federal law at all
>> prohibiting employers
>> from firing employees over political disagreement.

Oh, but there ARE state laws. Oh, man, are there state laws.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 04:45 PM (TppKb)

82 Let's say there is someone who is opposed to the Social Security program. Thinks it is unconstitutional, and just generally a bad deal. Feels he would do better to keep the money and make his own investment decisions.

But of course, that is not an option for him. The money will be taken out of his paycheck anyway. So, fast forward. He decides to retire. And, naturally, he applies for his SS benefits. And along comes someone like Allahpundit to dishonestly argue that the guy is a hypocrite because he now wants to collect from this program he always said he opposed.

The rules are the rules. Sometimes, some people think the rules need to be changed. But, until they are changed, we play by the rules that are in force.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 11, 2016 04:45 PM (R+30W)

83
Margin:

"But first you will blow me. Out."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 04:46 PM (mbhDw)

84 How does an associate pastor square the circle between Christianity and Democrat positions on abortion, among many other incompatible views?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 11, 2016 04:46 PM (7ZVPa)

85 Pence to me is the logical choice .
I suspect if Chrisy wants to leave Jersey he will be given a position. I might be suprised if he does.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 04:46 PM (GH68B)

86 Jesus, Ace. Take a step back. You're becoming Charles Johnson. Allahpundit is not your enemy. Anyone who objects to the clear infractions of Cheeto Jesus are not your enemies. Tolerate some diversity of thought on the Republican side, for Christ's sake.

Posted by: Trumpalo at November 11, 2016 04:46 PM (JNMri)

87 Allahpundit is like Andrew Sullivan was - not arguing in good faith.

I don't have the time or energy to read bad faith conservatives anymore.

Posted by: dustydog at November 11, 2016 04:46 PM (6BLvJ)

88 Yes, Trump has demonstrated how to beat Leftists.

And he beat them over there (D.C.) so we don't have to fight them here. We can ignore their silly asses or just laugh at them.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (3myMJ)

89 "60 On Wednesday the associate pastor at my church posted on FB: The feurer presidency begins. This from an Afrikaner who became a U.S. citizen. Told him I was offended and suggested he learn to spell. From here on out if a SJW goes to the Hitler comparison I walk away. As grandma said: there are sticks and then there are fucksticks."

Oh, no. From here on when some f-in fascist calls me or the people I chose to associate with Hitler in public, I'll let 'em have it & educate them on their ignorance and arrogance and let them know that if they do it again I'll smack them silly, rhetorically, and if necessary physically.

There's a new sheriff in town, and I ain't taking this shit lying down any longer.

Posted by: West at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (1Rgee)

90 And if the State is a right to work State
employers can fire anyone, at any time, for any reason. As long it does
not fall under federal discrimination statutes.

------------

While true in theory - not necessarily true in practice as it is easy to imply discrimination.

Posted by: SH at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (gmeXX)

91 I read it the way you read it. In fact I would just like to state right here and now that HOTAIR has become very hard to read for many months now. It feels like they are schooling the rubes just like the left has to school the rubes. Allahpundit has changed. I read who he is really is on the Belmont Club in the comments over there. I am not sure I trust his posts at all anymore.

Posted by: Janetoo at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (t3qE+)

92 So...normally I'm not one for conspiracy theories. Usually, unless I see serious pushback from others, as in the Franklin Scandal, I just let them drop. However, this "pizzagate" conspiracy theory seems have drawn a lot of a attention from people who want it shut down in a very short amount of time: http://bit.ly/2fKCJ2U

The cut and dry is: there's this pizza place in DC frequented by the Podestas, as well as Hillary, Obama, and the rest of the usual suspects. It's run by this creepy guy who liked to fill his instagram account with pictures of all the toddlers who attended his pizza place. A pizza place with a reputation for sexual imagery in the bathrooms and raunchy-themed musical acts. There's a serious conflict between the kind of culture in this pizza place and the number of people involved with it who make very strange comments about all these pictures of toddlers. People have also noted that some of the Podesta emails seem to be discussing "pizza" in very codeword-ish ways.

The Franklin Scandal I mentioned earlier was a conspiracy growing out of a 1989 Washington Times story about a child pornography/sex trafficking ring with connections to the Bush administration. According to the original Times columnist, his ability to research the topic was quickly shut down by the Secret Service. Suffice to say that since then, with the revelations about Penn State, Denny Hastert, Mark Foley, and a lot of other creeps...this shit doesn't seem so out-there anymore.

Posted by: S at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (HCXGq)

93 I see it more like Holy Jesus in heaven, we came THISCLOSE to committing national suicide.

Posted by: #AlwaysTrump - Formerly #NeverHillary at November 11, 2016 04:37 PM (cDWx2)

AMEN

Posted by: @Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (Om16U)

94 The point Allahpundit is attempting to make is so incredibly stupid.

Look, what Allahpundit is mad at is the Trump side right now is strong, happy and united. He wanted us broken and miserable.

The idea that conservatives can't boycott a business that's acting this way because
"principles" is a good illustration of why we were wandering in the wilderness for so long getting our ass kicked.

Thank goodness these NeverTrumpers are no longer opinion leaders that matter.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (f4+HA)

95 >>Jesus, Ace. Take a step back. You're becoming Charles Johnson. Allahpundit is not your enemy. Anyone who objects to the clear infractions of Cheeto Jesus are not your enemies. Tolerate some diversity of thought on the Republican side, for Christ's sake.

And what, pray tell, are some of Cheeto Jesus' infractions?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (/tuJf)

96 Posted by: ChristyBlinky,Deplorable Infidel Queen at November 11, 2016 04:44 PM (Cx8BK)

++++

Beautiful.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (CFc5L)

97 What is really bothering the never-Trumpers and the elites is that it was just proven on a national stage that they have no relevance.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (7ZVPa)

98 I guess I'm a Trumper.

BUT I haven't dug down into the weeds. Will there be some things I don't like? Most assuredly.

For the meantime I'm enjoying the gnashing of teeth and lamentations of the media elites and the Hillary fanboys.

I hope Trump will get more done, with 90% of it to my liking, than Jeb or Rubio or any of the others. GOPe be damned.

Posted by: Golfman at November 11, 2016 04:48 PM (48QDY)

99 You are right. Stop it with the thin skin. You rarely misread the tone of others. The post WAS snarky and condescending coming from a loser trying to sound like his opinions still matter.

They DON'T

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 11, 2016 04:48 PM (NbJXF)

100
Allahpundit doesn't seem to notice the difference between a personal preference boycott and a government enforced service.

Posted by: Rex Ryan at November 11, 2016 04:48 PM (ODxAs)

101 What I am learning from Trump.

When they hit you, don't cry.
Hit back.
Twice as hard and below the belt.

Posted by: @Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 11, 2016 04:48 PM (Om16U)

102 I am a Deplorable Trumper. Bite moi.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,Deplorable Infidel Queen at November 11, 2016 04:49 PM (Cx8BK)

103 Until I go to my grave:

I will either boycott or support whomever I so choose for whatever reasons for however long I choose to do so.

I will also vote for whomever I damn well please whether or not this or that twit thinks I should do so or not.

I suffered through the excesses and illegalities of the Clinton and Obama years without rioting or civil disobedience. I am predicting right here, right now, that Trump's administration will be the most ethical and legal seen in my lifetime because of the constant scrutiny and challenges his plans and policies will face.

It will damn refreshing to see the MSM and others care about the rule of law instead of the rule of feelz.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at November 11, 2016 04:49 PM (kXoT0)

104 I am not going to sit idly and allow myself to be demeaned, falsely accused, ridiculed and reduced to untermenschen status by anyone without vigorously fighting back.

No one is ipso facto better than me.
This applies to the Left and the Right, incidentally.

You want to push my buttons, pumpkin?
Be condescending to my face. In the flesh.
You will be introduced to the Scots- fucking- Irish.
I hope I am being clear.

Posted by: tubal at November 11, 2016 04:49 PM (d6TTt)

105 97 What is really bothering the never-Trumpers and the elites is that it was just proven on a national stage that they have no relevance.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (7ZVPa)

Unfortunately, they still control the levers of power within the government. Hopefully they can be yanked out, root and branch, or at least to the best of President Trump's ability.

Damn, I just love writing that! President Trump.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 04:49 PM (mbhDw)

106 "Tolerate some diversity of thought on the Republican side, for Christ's sake."

He does, all the time. Disagreement isn't intolerance, unless you are a Leftist.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at November 11, 2016 04:49 PM (3myMJ)

107 -- Jesus' turn-the-other-cheek ethic is one example of it. --

That passage from the Sermon on the Mount is frequently cited as an exhortation to pacifism. However, it can be more generously interpreted as a version of Abe Lincoln's famous statement to an unidentified woman supporter.

Woman: "Why do you love your enemies when you should destroy them?"
Lincoln: "Madam, do I not destroy them when I make them my friends?"

It was bits of wisdom such as that that moved Salmon Chase, looking down upon Lincoln's corpse, to say, "There lies the greatest ruler of me that Mankind has ever seen."

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at November 11, 2016 04:49 PM (mj4NC)

108 I was at Little Green Footballs shortly after 9/11.

Its amazing that "Never Forget" was along the upper left hand side of the page, and yet slowly but surely Charles Johnson himself *forgot*. These days he's just as lost as he was prior to 9/11 taking place.

Posted by: Crusader at November 11, 2016 04:49 PM (ewSN2)

109 528 So, Lena Dunham hurts in all the places that make her a women.

She's got sand in it.
Posted by: no good deed at November 11, 2016 04:37 PM (/O5Ax)

---

http://tinyurl.com/z7rmxju

Posted by: Joy and Pain at November 11, 2016 04:49 PM (ahx2/)

110 Here's the thing. He's right about what's happening. He's just wrong about it being bad.

We should have been putting paid to these assholes long ago. But we played with our hands tied behind our back and now we're behind the eight-ball. So now, naturally, we have a lot of work to do, and nobody's used to us actually doing it.

This is why I don't support pacifism. Too often, it means the bad guys win.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, That Deplorable Guy at November 11, 2016 04:50 PM (vyqqu)

111 The tone of Allahpundit and Hot Air in general toward the Trump campaign is the reason I dropped Hot Air from my bookmarks months ago.
I didn't need another not-so-subtle nevertrumper to depress me.

I voted early for Trump here in Texas and proudly so. I will not return to Hot Air. I have decided I don't need to read drivel from people that I mostly don't like. (There are a few exceptions there, but it isn't worth it to me to be subjected to depressing headlines when I can find good commentary elsewhere. Like here.)

Posted by: Nan at November 11, 2016 04:50 PM (HUejd)

112 The media elites and Hollywood types are reacting in fear because they know how they were going to behave after this election when Hillary won. They were going to ruthlessly go about making every conservative - and the never Trumpers - formal second class citizens. They now expect the same in return (they are projecting). I'm not sure I want us to go there. But, I think that Trump, and conservatives (and the never Trumpers if they can find a way to get their head out of their a**es and realize that their obsequiousness would have earned them no respite) need to press our political agenda quickly and relentlessly. They must see all of their efforts come to a quick ruin.

Posted by: Brian at November 11, 2016 04:50 PM (8Gsah)

113 The bad news is the media hasn't learned a thing and will continue hate-based propagandization.

The good news is the media hasn't learned a thing and will continue hate-based propagandization.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 04:50 PM (Nwg0u)

114
The left doesn't realize that if we were a fraction as violent as they claim we are, or if we were as organized and determined as they are.

Man, oh man.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 04:50 PM (mbhDw)

115 >>When they hit you, don't cry.
Hit back.
Twice as hard and below the belt.

I prefer the Jack Reacher philosophy, retaliate first.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 04:50 PM (/tuJf)

116 Screw Allahpander.

The pussified GOPe has refused to throw the Alinsky tactics back in their faces and force them to live by the rules they impose on everyone else.

Trump don't play dat shit. We won, Allahpander. Get over it.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 11, 2016 04:50 PM (WlGX+)

117 He does, all the time. Disagreement isn't intolerance, unless you are a Leftist.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at November 11, 2016 04:49 PM (3myMJ)
THIS

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 11, 2016 04:50 PM (NbJXF)

118 People tend to do things for people they like. If conservatives want Trump to advance their agenda, the best chances for it happening are to treat the man decently.

Posted by: Al at November 11, 2016 04:51 PM (rUBD0)

119 Also, I stopped going to Hot Air when Ed Morrissey endorsed Rick Santorum and turned the site into Catholic Catholic Catholic every day until 5PM. Salem Communications neutered that site with that fat bald dope.

Posted by: S at November 11, 2016 04:51 PM (HCXGq)

120 Allah who?

Posted by: spypeach at November 11, 2016 04:51 PM (CktXf)

121 Big difference between grassroots advocating for boycott of businesses and organizations and government law fare to punish business for incorrect beliefs or thoughts.

Allahpundit seems to commingle them.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 11, 2016 04:51 PM (IDPbH)

122 111 The tone of Allahpundit and Hot Air in general toward the Trump campaign is the reason I dropped Hot Air from my bookmarks months ago.
I didn't need another not-so-subtle nevertrumper to depress me.

I voted early for Trump here in Texas and proudly so. I will not return to Hot Air. I have decided I don't need to read drivel from people that I mostly don't like. (There are a few exceptions there, but it isn't worth it to me to be subjected to depressing headlines when I can find good commentary elsewhere. Like here.)
Posted by: Nan at November 11, 2016 04:50 PM (HUejd)

They dropped me in '10 after I used the word "revolution" in a post about the just-rammed-through Obamacare.

No great loss. This is the place to be.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 04:51 PM (mbhDw)

123 The tone of that piece is snide and condescending, and in a petulant effort to score points off "Trumpers" Allapundit has committed the additional sin of creating false equivalencies and misreporting facts.

Two examples:

01. Whites did not vote "the way other racial blocs do". A margin for Trump (I think the number I saw was 58%) is within the real of reasonable electoral results (say within one standard deviation of the mean), and NOT the same as the blowout numbers that other blocs regularly turn in (90/10 for blacks and 70/30 for Hispanics, approximately).

02. Applying the laws prohibiting retaliation for political activity is, similarly, in no way equivalent to persecuting bakers and pizzeria owners. In fact it is the exact opposite of that. In both cases, conservatives are objecting to the punishment of people for their personal/political views. Only someone with a completely jaundiced eye could get this point so wrong.

And finally, "it's payback time" is just a cheap shot.

Given the election results that just confirmed that snotty Republican elitists represent and/or influence a vanishingly small percentage of the population, this tantrum seems like business model suicide, but hey, what do I know. I'm not a PUNDIT, just a lowly commenter.

Posted by: HTL at November 11, 2016 04:51 PM (mUWne)

124 While true in theory - not necessarily true in practice as it is easy to imply discrimination.

Posted by: SH at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (gmeXX)

Except that federal law only protects minorities. religions, and women from "discrimination". The Democrats tried to add homos a ways back around 2008 I think it was but congress shot it down overwhelmingly. Under Obama the EEC added homos with his pen and phone but the Republicunts did nothing.

And as I said, OR where the bakery thing happened does have homo things on the lawbooks.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 11, 2016 04:51 PM (mpXpK)

125 >> So, Lena Dunham hurts in all the places that make
>> her a women.

She really needs to leave the power tools alone.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 04:52 PM (TppKb)

126 What is really bothering the never-Trumpers and the elites is that it was just proven on a national stage that they have no relevance.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (7ZVPa)

It also proved that they were none too bright. Trump won because he read the anger of the American people over the application of a Double Standard that was so blatantly wrong and so strong that no matter the crime, there would be no attempt at equal justice under the law.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at November 11, 2016 04:52 PM (kXoT0)

127 >>Pence is displacing Christie as the head of the transition team.

I saw something that said that Christie had been pre-election transition and Pence is taking over now, nothing to see here, always planned.

Spin?

Beats me.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2016 04:52 PM (gTQoY)

128 A removal of any excuse from the GOPe for why they can't get things done in Washington D.C.
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at November 11, 2016 04:34 PM (3myMJ)
--------------------------------
You might be underestimating their abilities in this area.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 11, 2016 04:52 PM (NUqwG)

129 The turn the other cheek Jesus also said to destroy the works of evil. It seems that the establishment types want to apply rules to Trumpers they refuse to apply to themselves, like supporting the nominee agreement they signed, or keeping your election promises AFTER you get elected.

The policy of Trump people is simple:cut off the globalist money, that is what is non-negotiable. Its not about paying anyone back, its about getting rid of the political capacity to bribe congressmen(and media types) to violate their oaths and enable tyrants to throw out the rule of law in favor of the rule of money.

The real reason some of these pundits are so mad is they see that globalist money being taken away from them and they are trying their darnedest to find a way to keep it. But justification will get you nowhere.

Posted by: akelm88 at November 11, 2016 04:52 PM (km/D2)

130 I haven't read any of that, but I'm trying to work up my winners and losers list.

Winners:

1) Scott Adams

2) Climate Skeptics

3) Bakery and pizzeria owners

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 04:29 PM (TppKb)
==========================================

Please add my husband to that list. There were seriously-in-the-works emergency measures being developed for Christian ministers forced by the State to perform homosexual marriages. I think we got a reprieve, for now anyway.

Posted by: grammie winger - Red, White and Cubbie Blue at November 11, 2016 04:52 PM (bpfzP)

131
HotFlatus has been sinking anyway for a few years now. Big fat meh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 04:53 PM (mbhDw)

132 113
The bad news is the media hasn't learned a thing and will continue hate-based propagandization.

The good news is the media hasn't learned a thing and will continue hate-based propagandization.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 04:50 PM (Nwg0u)

Got a letter from publisher of NY Slime saying they were shocked about the election and they are sorry they didn't do a better job of predicting Trump, so they will just continue to do what they do and thanks for subscribing.

Sounds like a lot of lefties cancelled their subs because the Slime lied to them an told them Hillary was going to win.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 11, 2016 04:53 PM (NbJXF)

133 I saw something that said that Christie had been pre-election transition

That is correct. That was his title.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 11, 2016 04:53 PM (WlGX+)

134 44 Time for AllahPundit to go join Charles Johnson and Little Green Footballs in Chucky's mom's basement.
Posted by: One-eyed Cat Peepin' in the Seafood Store at November 11, 2016 04:36 PM (aeVIR)

They're not going to like it when Glenn Beck tries to join them.

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 04:53 PM (z/Ubi)

135 >>I prefer the Jack Reacher philosophy, retaliate first.

Be polite, be professional but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

Posted by: garrett at November 11, 2016 04:53 PM (6ToNi)

136 >>>Christie is reviewing potential WH Pastry Chefs.<<<

Official Food Taster might not be a bad appointment for the fat man.

Posted by: Fritz at November 11, 2016 04:53 PM (aylpz)

137 I saw something that said that Christie had been pre-election transition and Pence is taking over now, nothing to see here, always planned.

Spin?

Beats me.
Posted by: Mama AJ

Ditto, but I would have expected it to be better advertised if that was always the plan. This smacks of a canning.

Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 04:53 PM (LAe3v)

138 I'll add myself to the winner column.

Posted by: SH at November 11, 2016 04:53 PM (gmeXX)

139 What is so icky about white people voting their own interest?

Other racial groups do and get a pass

So Trump got 58% of white vote
but Barky Obumbles gets 94% of the black vote and not a peep

those non-racists are racists!!

Posted by: origional Jake at November 11, 2016 04:54 PM (yEME9)

140 What will it take for Allah Pundit and the rest of the Never Trumpers to eat some humble pie and admit that they were wrong every step of the way?

And in admitting they were wrong, maybe open their ears and shut their mouths a little and try to learn from their mistakes?

Or will they just continue to spew their wrong arguments until they magically make the world conform to it?

Posted by: @Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 11, 2016 04:54 PM (Om16U)

141 >> thanks for subscribing.

So you help keep Carlos Slim fat?

Oh, we are SO disappointed in you...

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 04:54 PM (TppKb)

142 100
Allahpundit doesn't seem to notice the difference between a personal preference boycott and a government enforced service.
Posted by: Rex Ryan at November 11, 2016 04:48 PM (ODxAs)

Rex I see you beat me to it.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 11, 2016 04:54 PM (IDPbH)

143 In my opinion the very appellation of "Trumpian" on Allahpundit's part is the insult. His comments cannot be taken as neutral if he assigns a name to a group that is generally taken to be negative.

Posted by: Decaf at November 11, 2016 04:55 PM (nogKi)

144 141 >> thanks for subscribing.

So you help keep Carlos Slim fat?

Oh, we are SO disappointed in you...
Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 04:54 PM (TppKb)

I read that as Carlos Slim Fast.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 04:55 PM (mbhDw)

145 I've come to believe that Allahpundit is a Democrat and that Hot Air is a Trojan Horse web site.

Posted by: jbspry at November 11, 2016 04:55 PM (LTquJ)

146 What will it take for Allah Pundit and the rest of the Never Trumpers to eat some humble pie and admit that they were wrong every step of the way?

----------

I think a lot of them have done that to some extent.

Posted by: SH at November 11, 2016 04:55 PM (gmeXX)

147 Why would anyone read anything allahpundit writes, anyway? I don't get it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 11, 2016 04:55 PM (zc3Db)

148 I saw this over at Weasel zippers
The video shows what many are calling child abuse (psychological, but just as damaging).

I wish I could shove it in Van Jone's face.
Its very disturbing. I watched it once, and cannot watch it again. I got way too angry. I link it here again, though because I think it needs to be seen. It makes a great follow on the video Ace linked to Jonathan Pie.

Trigger? Whatever. it will piss you off. As it should piss off everyone.
http://tinyurl.com/jyc3t7k

-
Removed from Youtube because this is a civil society you sibling-humping, knuckledragging fascists!

What does it show?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 04:55 PM (Nwg0u)

149 My $0.02? 1. I agree Allah's tone does come off as condescending. 2. The media - both liberal and some conservative - learned nothing from this election. They are doubling down on their smugness, blissfully unaware how conservatives are seeing them.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 11, 2016 04:55 PM (VV72c)

150 >>01. Whites did not vote "the way other racial blocs do". A margin for Trump (I think the number I saw was 58%) is within the real of reasonable electoral results (say within one standard deviation of the mean), and NOT the same as the blowout numbers that other blocs regularly turn in (90/10 for blacks and 70/30 for Hispanics, approximately).

While I was told there would not be math here, I do appreciate these numbers.

Point well made.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 11, 2016 04:55 PM (gTQoY)

151 So I have a bunch of extra cigarettes and coffee that I had planned on using for barter in the Fun Camps if anyone is interested.

Posted by: ajmojo at November 11, 2016 04:55 PM (1H9ox)

152 Fvckin' A, Ace. Thank you. So tired of this shit. Tired of the default being non-leftist opinions are bad and wrong.

Posted by: fly gal at November 11, 2016 04:56 PM (9OLTK)

153 I have not read Hot Blair or any neverTrumper site since, oh, a year or so.

I have not watched stupid FOX til last night. Sometimes my husband sneaks on something and I bark like Pavlov's dog in response to Martha Stewart's voice.

To this day I have not heard an entire Obarky speech with sound on. I often watch to see if fly lands again on his purple lips.

I had already declared that I would not even watch the Hag with sound off as she creeps me out. #SpiritCooking

I get my news from Drudge and twitter. Bill Mitchell's twitter was the only one I am aware of who got the el stupido polls correct. He read them right. The rest were floundering around like the passengers in the frigid waters after the Titanic sank.

Everyone can simply bite moi. In no mood to harsh my buzz.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,Deplorable Infidel Queen at November 11, 2016 04:56 PM (Cx8BK)

154 Mitt Romney would have beat Hilary by 10 points!

Posted by: AP at November 11, 2016 04:56 PM (FqgrG)

155 Anyone know if there is a copy somewhere of CNN's election night coverage? I have a hankering to binge watch a replay.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2016 04:56 PM (wfDW1)

156 You spend a lot of time and energy, Ace, refuting those with whom you disagree.

I guess that's being respectful. It's also a tactic used and honed in the practice of law.

I never went to law school, and I don't have any experience with people like the guy who still rather immaturely calls himself Allahpundit. So I have no use for him. Or what he says.

Screw him. He used to be somebody. Now he's not.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 11, 2016 04:56 PM (Pz4pT)

157 The rule of law means that the law applies to all equally.

That includes very very very idiotic laws which which I disagree.

I did not make the rules. But if those rules are to be enforced? Then they must be enforced neutrally.

Posted by: alexthechick - Victory arms! at November 11, 2016 04:56 PM (mf5HN)

158
Got a letter from publisher of NY Slime saying they were shocked about the election and they are sorry they didn't do a better job of predicting Trump, so they will just continue to do what they do and thanks for subscribing.

Sounds like a lot of lefties cancelled their subs because the Slime lied to them an told them Hillary was going to win.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 11, 2016 04:53 PM (NbJXF)

====

And the dominoes keep tipping over.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 11, 2016 04:56 PM (CFc5L)

159 With which. With which. Grammar be hard, yo.

Posted by: alexthechick - Victory arms! at November 11, 2016 04:57 PM (mf5HN)

160 Don't give em an inch Ace. Its still psy-ops and the response is the same:we don't do psy-ops anymore.

Posted by: akelm88 at November 11, 2016 04:57 PM (km/D2)

161 Hot Air serves one purposes, a news aggregation site for ace.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 04:57 PM (/tuJf)

162 the CEO wasn't hiring or firing anyone. He didn't have the guts. He was demanding they fire themselves.

Posted by: Chico Escuela at November 11, 2016 04:57 PM (n6pAK)

163
Any more riots planned for tonight? How about a '68 Chicago cops style response if there are

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 11, 2016 04:57 PM (493sH)

164 >> With which. With which. Grammar be hard, yo.

The witch lost. you don't need to worry about grammar any more.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 04:57 PM (TppKb)

165 but Trump won because many working-class (and college-educated) whites voted the way other racial blocs do.

That's just incorrect. Whites certainly have every right to vote as a racial bloc - and that has nothing to do with following the left's insane rules or anything of the sort - but that is not why Trump won.

As I wrote above, "Why would anyone bother reading any of allahpundit's drivel, to start with?"

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 11, 2016 04:57 PM (zc3Db)

166 I did not make the rules. But if those rules are to be enforced? Then they must be enforced neutrally.

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But guess what. We are in the majority at the federal government and in many states. Let's just get rid of these laws.

Posted by: SH at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (gmeXX)

167 Everyone can simply bite moi. In no mood to harsh my buzz.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky,Deplorable Infidel Queen at November 11, 2016 04:56 PM (Cx8BK)

---

*fistbump*

Click my nic yet?

Posted by: Joy and Pain at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (ahx2/)

168 OT. I want a Simply Irredeemable bumpersticker and/or youtube set to the Simply Irresistable tune.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (dkExz)

169 143 In my opinion the very appellation of "Trumpian" on Allahpundit's part is the insult. His comments cannot be taken as neutral if he assigns a name to a group that is generally taken to be negative.
Posted by: Decaf at November 11, 2016 04:55 PM (nogKi)

Yes it is an insult . It's that wry, snide, snarky hipster condesencion that assholes use whenever they think they can get away with it.
Usually from a safe distance through print or pixels.
Funny how genteel these people become when sitting across from you.

Posted by: tubal at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (d6TTt)

170 I think Allahpundit just hurts in all the places that make him a woman.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (Mt8T4)

171 Conservatism has gotten a bad name, because somewhere along the line it became a movement run by political pacifist.

You should not be involved in politics if you are pacifist, or in military matters, or in law, or business. Maybe a job as a artist would be better, or a monk.

BTW - How much of Christian history has observed strict pacifism? If it did it would not exist today as a religion.

Posted by: William Eaton at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (MuTTO)

172 What is so icky about white people voting their own interest?

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The Love Trumps Hate thugs are Krystalnachting their disappointment in the streets. They are Nazis.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (Nwg0u)

173 Bill Whittle wrote about a study in game theory concerning "The Prisoners Dilemma".

If you're playing a single trial of the game the best course of action is to rat out the other guy. It gives you a chance at the best outcome while eliminating any chance of the worst outcome.

But if playing multiple trials of the game the best strategy is to do to the other guy this time what he did to you last time. Do that every time, without exception. It builds trust that good behavior will be rewarded and bad behavior punished.

From the day Obama announced "I won" the Left has done its best to ram their agenda down the throat of a largely unwilling nation. More often than not they succeeded. Now that we have the White House and both Congressional houses it is absolutely imperative that we shove our agenda down their throats. If we fail to do so we're simply sending the message that elections only have consequences for one side, and if they're patient they can have whatever they want by just waiting it out a cycle or two.

And who knows? Maybe when they see what big government is capable of they'll finally lose their taste for it. Unlikely, yes, but still possible.

Posted by: James Felix at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (EmVCW)

174 159 With which. With which. Grammar be hard, yo.
Posted by: alexthechick - Victory arms!

Take more care. This is the sort of sloppiness up with which we will not put.

Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (LAe3v)

175 Jesus Juan is talking

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (dELE3)

176 Screw him. He used to be somebody. Now he's not.

Most of the NeverTrumpers lost me for good. Jonah, Allah, the twats of the Twitter Condescension Squad. All of them. He wasn't my guy, either, but he was the only person standing between us and Hillary.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (VV72c)

177 OM, if you're around I have a suggestion for the Sunday Book thread: "SJWs Always Lie."

It's a guide to battling SJWers, whom we can all see have been extra-energized in the wake of Trump winning and vowing to undo Obama's legacy.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 11, 2016 04:59 PM (NOIQH)

178 Oh, I just saw video of Coulter saying Trump would win on Bill Maher's show over a year ago. The laughter was off the scale.

WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 11, 2016 04:59 PM (wfDW1)

179 boycotting a bidness ( GrubFuckinHub ) ain't anywhere near the same as putting a family bakery or pizzeria out of business

Kee-ryst, man. Allahpundit is, was, and always will be a Total Dickus. Are we gonna have these stupid fatuous Fake Equivalency disputes forever?

Posted by: Billy Occam at November 11, 2016 04:59 PM (/542q)

180 >>Hot Air serves one purposes, a news aggregation site for ace.

When he's not on Twitter, or here talking up his gains, he's 7 of the 11 unique commenters they have over there.

Posted by: garrett at November 11, 2016 04:59 PM (6ToNi)

181 One of the things I don't clearly understand is how the Inner D Party picked Hillary as the nominee even before the game started. With nearly all the 400 odd super-delegates committing to her early, it made it nearly impossible for a credible opponent to get financial backing. Bernie started as a joke token opponent and then got traction because Hillary was so awful.

I ask this because I'm skeptical that Hillary was the first choice of the Obamans. So things happened behind closed doors I don't clearly understand.

In any event, the outcome showed the Democratic party to anything but democratic. It's a very narrow circle that makes the decisions, often driven by influences and agendas that ill-serve the nominal constituents of the D party. This probably won't change, except that the Clintons will be out.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 11, 2016 04:59 PM (SIY7D)

182 J'non parles "oui"

Posted by: whatmeworry? at November 11, 2016 04:59 PM (dZGNV)

183 A have no problem with payback. As Ace keeps telling folks on Twitter, you don't get to live in a world with two sets of rules. You can try but the other guy will eventually throw that back in your face along with a fist.

A big reason why the "conservative" side of the GOP has worked themselves into irrelevancy is their pure squeamishness and half-assed ideas about civility.

The same people who agree that standing up for yourself will cause a bully to back off are the first ones who try and win the Adult in the Room Olympics when the Left starts picking a fight.

The Right would have saved themselves decades of heartache if they had started during the Bork nomination fiasco and spent every waking moment in front of a camera calling Ted Kennedy and Co a bunch of sorry assed MFers until they knocked that shit off.

Instead we got, and always get now, a bunch of wrinkled brows and concerned eyes like someone farted at a christening.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 11, 2016 04:59 PM (XN0hD)

184 AP can eat a bowl of dicks.

Bigly.

Hasn't been worth reading for quite a while now.

Posted by: Community Organizer at November 11, 2016 04:59 PM (9VLhN)

185 -
Removed from Youtube because this is a civil society you sibling-humping, knuckledragging fascists!

What does it show?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 04:55 PM (Nwg0u)

--

A mother (behind the camera) yelling at a black kid (her son) who looked to be around 6 or 7 years old, that because he had voted for Trump he had to leave the house. She had his suitcase packed (showed it by the door) and he was to take it and hit the streets.

That's as far as I could watch - don't know what else was shown.

Poor kid was bawlin.

Horrible.

Posted by: @Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 11, 2016 04:59 PM (Om16U)

186 >> I think Allahpundit just hurts in all the places that
>> make him a woman.

Sponsored by:

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Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 04:59 PM (TppKb)

187 "The tone of Allahpundit and Hot Air in general toward the Trump campaign is the reason I dropped Hot Air from my bookmarks months ago.
I didn't need another not-so-subtle nevertrumper to depress me."

I'm only half serious when I say this, but I almost got the impression even before Trump that HotAir was like a Soros astroturf site that's purpose was to depress conservatives.

It was clear the articles almost took a certain glee in making you feel it was hopeless, even before Trump entered the stage, it was just defeatism 24/7.

Either these people suffer from some sort of massive depression and their release is sharing it or they are attempting to make conservatives depressed and throw in the towel.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:00 PM (f4+HA)

188 I'm down with defiance. I won't be leaving the country, after all.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at November 11, 2016 05:00 PM (DMUuz)

189 >>
I think Allahpundit just hurts in all the places that make him a woman.

*golf clap*
*wipes tear from eye*

Posted by: Lizzy at November 11, 2016 05:00 PM (NOIQH)

190 "Trump was not the cause of the issue; the issue was the cause of Trump."

Exactly. Trump has some good, bad and indifferent sides to him just like everybody else.

But his biggest strength was he punched back, hard. The left, like Sonny Liston, does not like it when they get hit back. They can't handle it, they panic, they throw temper tantrums and then "Bam" they got hit again. And again and again. Bullies hate it when they taste a knuckle sammich.

Trump was my chance to swing back at the bullies on the left and boy did he connect.
Plus I would have voted for Harambe over the FAB anyways.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 11, 2016 05:00 PM (ej1L0)

191 I've always found allahpundit to be a coward since very shortly after 9/11. He's basically useless.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at November 11, 2016 05:00 PM (nFwvY)

192 Ace did not misread Allahpundit's post.
He is condescending and thinks Trump supporters are deplorable.
He is pissed off that he has been wrong about Trump from the start and that Trump won, so it was racism that got him the win (although Trump did better with blacks & Hispanics than any other R in years and he won counties that Obama won twice).
If Hillary had won he would be doing a tap dance of "I told you so you deplorable racists" instead.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 11, 2016 05:01 PM (aNrvT)

193 I'm down with defiance. I won't be leaving the country, after all.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at November 11, 2016 05:00 PM (DMUuz)

Funny how none of the big mouths are heading for the border any more. Too bad

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 11, 2016 05:01 PM (493sH)

194 Whites did not vote "the way other racial blocs do". A margin for Trump (I think the number I saw was 58%) is within the real of reasonable electoral results (say within one standard deviation of the mean), and NOT the same as the blowout numbers that other blocs regularly turn in (90/10 for blacks and 70/30 for Hispanics, approximately).

Well ... even the expectation that there is some "correct" split of the white vote that would prove that it isn't "racially motivated" (the horror) is incorrect. The left and the right don't represent equally defensible sides in their views of the nation. A reasonable and sane population would have only a sparing vote for the left (just the weak personalities, self-haters and nihilists). If whites had gone 85% for Trump that would be better proof that whites weren't voting racially but were merely that much saner and more well-adjusted than other groups.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 11, 2016 05:01 PM (zc3Db)

195 Why wouldn't the VP elect head up the administration team? What else would he do?

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:01 PM (GH68B)

196 191 I've always found allahpundit to be a coward since very shortly after 9/11. He's basically useless.

He was an eeyore about everything...

Posted by: deplorable donna at November 11, 2016 05:01 PM (O2RFr)

197 I'm with Ace on this one. I'm tired of making nice with feral animals.

Willowed from the previous thread:

Re: Ellison for DNC leadership...

http://tinyurl.com/am3wxph

^ Pelosi holds secret fund-raiser with Islamist & Hamas-linked groups.

Few people understand just how deep this rabbit hole goes...

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2016 05:01 PM (ry4ab)

198 >> boycotting a bidness ( GrubFuckinHub ) ain't
>> anywhere near the same as putting a family bakery
>> or pizzeria out of business

Specifically: private individuals boycotting a business (whether GrubHub or New Balance) ain't anywhere near the same as using the hammer of state power to put a family bakery or pizzeria out of business.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 05:01 PM (TppKb)

199 Time for AllahPundit to go join Charles Johnson and Little Green Footballs in Chucky's mom's basement.

They're not going to like it when Glenn Beck tries to join them.

Plus Eric Erickson, the Red State crowd and nearly all the clowns at National Review Online.

Gonna need a bigger basement!

Posted by: cool breeze at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (StZrq)

200 No

The only perfect freedom.

Posted by: socks socks at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (XimQA)

201 the CEO wasn't hiring or firing anyone. He didn't have the guts. He was demanding they fire themselves.
Posted by: Chico Escuela at November 11, 2016 04:57 PM (n6pAK)

So he could make a list and out them on social media and allow the SJW hyenas to have at them.

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (jkmtt)

202 Jon has a long mustach

Posted by: origional Jake at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (yEME9)

203 Why wouldn't the VP elect head up the administration team? What else would he do?

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Go to funerals like VPs used to do.

Posted by: SH at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (gmeXX)

204 171
BTW - How much of Christian history has observed strict pacifism? If it did it would not exist today as a religion.
Posted by: William Eaton at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (MuTTO)

I suppose you would file your observation under " Inconvenient Historical Facts the Liberal American Evangelical Churches does not want to talk or think about", William.

Posted by: tubal at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (d6TTt)

205 >> Few people understand just how deep this rabbit
>> hole goes...

It sounds like the Democrats want to be out of power as long as UK Labour wants to be out of power.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (TppKb)

206 Hilarious. Henry Davis, Black Trump Supporter non apology, apology.

You must watch. Can't. Breath.

http://tinyurl.com/zlthkc6

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (usi7i)

207 AP can eat a bowl of dicks.

How many dicks come in a bowl?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: A. Cooper at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (DMUuz)

208 157
The rule of law means that the law applies to all equally.

That includes very very very idiotic laws which which I disagree.

I did not make the rules. But if those rules are to be enforced? Then they must be enforced neutrally.

Posted by: alexthechick - Victory arms! at November 11, 2016 04:56 PM (mf5HN)

Be they immigration laws, information security laws (FAB take note), and anti-discrimination laws (Take note GrubHub).Don't like the laws, work to change them. Don't wave the pen and pick up the phone (TFG). Use the Constitutional process.
No rule of law applied equally = anarchy. And there isn't a good ending when that happens.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 11, 2016 05:03 PM (jxbfJ)

209 Even Sean Davis, who I like, was snarking at Trump up until Election Day. I know he's a strong conservative, but this cycle he was also being a dick.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 11, 2016 05:03 PM (VV72c)

210 BTW, for all the people who don't know, part of the Hotair downfall was publicly mocking and attacking their readers on other social mediums like Twitter.

Post a topic on Hotair, and then post a link and something like "look at the idiots responding to my awesomeness and super smartness" on Twitter happened more than once.

(spit)

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at November 11, 2016 05:03 PM (x4zgf)

211 @148

Its trending fast now.
If you google "mom throws out kid for voting trump" you will find lots of links.

The kid voted Trump in the grade school mock election.
She takes it out on him with some serious abuse.
That kids gonna be fucked in the head for a while.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 05:03 PM (5Z34V)

212 @47
That wasn't Sherman, he was talking about. That was Sherman, quoting Lincoln, talking about Sigel.

Sorry for the nit-pick

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 11, 2016 05:04 PM (UHLlC)

213 Turn the other cheek is about physical assault directly upon you, not attacks on others, groups, or your nation. Christians are called upon to defend others, to protect the weak, and to fight evil.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:04 PM (39g3+)

214 This is one of those cases where somebody who supposedly OPPOSES liberals is caught mimicking them.

Allah's implicit assumption is that being OUTRAGED at an employer doing this is the SAME as wanting such a thing to be OUTLAWED. Only a Leftist thinks like that. The call is for a BOYCOTT, not LEGISLATION. The employer gets to hire or fire whoever they damn well please, but that doesn't mean the customers have to LIKE IT.

As to suing them, yeah, that's giving them a taste of their own medicine. Let the bastards gag on it.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 11, 2016 05:04 PM (EnK/R)

215 Mmmmm...Lisa Boothe subbing on The Five tonight...

Posted by: Oedipus at November 11, 2016 05:04 PM (CXLVd)

216 I agree on the tone that you perceive. I also think if we want equal freedoms under the law and in society, we're going to have to stand up for them. Otherwise we might just as well build the camps ourselves and move in. Or save lots of time, and off ourselves.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 11, 2016 05:04 PM (FQKBL)

217
To #181:

To me, the larger game to many on BOTH sides of the isle is "power". When viewed in that lense, it explains why the Republicans have "accomplished" absolutely nothing while having a majority in both houses--they never DESIRED to accomplish anything because letting the Democrats "win" merely meant that those with power continued to acquire more and more of it. NEITHER party gave a rat's ass about actually *helping* little people of the low and middle income classes. Instead, BOTH sides mouthed platitudes about "social justice" in hopes of keeping us asleep while they continued to gobble up the remaining pieces of the game.

We can only hope that Trump can see WHICH (faux) "Republicans" participated in this *conspiracy* against us all, and spend his efforts and time in power to root them out.

Otherwise, our Nation will remain in peril.

Posted by: Crusader at November 11, 2016 05:05 PM (ewSN2)

218 I don't get this part about whites voting in ethnic blocks. No they don't and that's the thing. It wasn't anything like all the white people in PA voting for Trump.

If whites voted like blacks there would never ever be anyone but Republicans voted to national office.

Posted by: blaster at November 11, 2016 05:05 PM (stTTh)

219 >> http://tinyurl.com/zlthkc6

Yeah, that does it.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 05:05 PM (TppKb)

220 213 Turn the other cheek is about physical assault directly upon you, not attacks on others, groups, or your nation. Christians are called upon to defend others, to protect the weak, and to fight evil.

I'm more of an eye for an eye sort of Gal...

Posted by: deplorable donna at November 11, 2016 05:05 PM (O2RFr)

221 Fabulous post, Ace!

Posted by: Cn at November 11, 2016 05:05 PM (wczgi)

222 "AP is really only pissed about one thing. His newly found irrelevance."

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It need not be but he is in a hole and he keeps digging.

Posted by: Decaf at November 11, 2016 05:05 PM (nogKi)

223 How many dicks come in a bowl?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: A. Cooper at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (DMUuz)

- - - - - -

Depends on the donor of said dicks.

In my case, two dicks would fill a bowl nicely, but your mileage may vary. I'd say a typical bowl consists of 5-6 dicks.

Cheers.

Posted by: Community Organizer at November 11, 2016 05:05 PM (9VLhN)

224 The rule of law means that the law applies to all equally.

That includes very very very idiotic laws which which I disagree.

I did not make the rules. But if those rules are to be enforced? Then they must be enforced neutrally.

Posted by: alexthechick - Victory arms! at November 11, 2016 04:56 PM (mf5HN)

Lefties will be perfectly happy having their own, insane laws enforced against them. They really don't mind. They suffer the same under BarkyCare but they still love that and, even worse, want to take it further to a truly national socialist health care industry.

I'm sorry, but you are just way off course if you think it's a good tactic to press insane laws on the left when it's convenient. I assure you that is a losing battle. Even the idea that you think you are able to do that is more than a bit of a fantasy. In the end, you'll just end up having your argument FOR the insane laws hanging in the air and nothing will have been done.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 11, 2016 05:05 PM (zc3Db)

225 Grubhub dude can fire whothehellever he wants. And since I don't use a food delivery of any kind except Mrs. E's sammich service), I don't care.

Posted by: Eromero at November 11, 2016 05:06 PM (zLDYs)

226 I guess my confusion is this seems to say the owner can't/shouldn't do this to the workers and at the same time people should attack the company SJW style.

Isn't the correct choices either yes the CEO can and so can the people or no the CEO cannot and the people should not condemn the company?

Posted by: justaguy at November 11, 2016 05:06 PM (UnMRd)

227 196 @deplorable donna

The closer Hot Gas got to be sold to Sinclair Communications, the more Allah shifted his tone.

Not that I cared much for him anyway... he was an early leader for deleting posts when somebody complained about them.

Sorta like the school board that shuts down Christmas 'cause some muzzie's 'feeling' got hurt.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2016 05:06 PM (ry4ab)

228 204
171

BTW - How much of Christian history has observed strict pacifism? If it did it would not exist today as a religion.

Posted by: William Eaton at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM (MuTTO)

I suppose you would file your observation under " Inconvenient
Historical Facts the Liberal American Evangelical Churches does not want
to talk or think about", William.

Posted by: tubal at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (d6TTt)
and crossfile to the USCCB (and I'm Catholic)

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 11, 2016 05:06 PM (jxbfJ)

229 I thought turn the other cheek was about pride?

Posted by: origional Jake at November 11, 2016 05:06 PM (yEME9)

230 >> If whites voted like blacks there would never ever
>> be anyone but Republicans voted to national office.

If and when we get national voter ID we might never see another Democrat vote for national office outside a half-dozen coastal states.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 05:07 PM (TppKb)

231 It sounds like the Democrats want to be out of power as long as UK Labour wants to be out of power.
Posted by: JEM

Fools like Hillary thought they'd always have the power, while exploiting the minority vote. I guess it didn't occur to them that some day there would be an uprising. Ellison is a lunatic, but the inmates are now in charge of the asylum.

Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 05:07 PM (LAe3v)

232 Siblings? Aren't those the fury little puffballs from Star Trek that multiply like crazy when they eat?

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at November 11, 2016 05:07 PM (+aCe4)

233 225
Grubhub dude can fire whothehellever he wants. And since I don't use a
food delivery of any kind except Mrs. E's sammich service), I don't
care.

Posted by: Eromero at November 11, 2016 05:06 PM (zLDYs)

Actually, I saw somewhere showing a California statute that there are specific conditions which one could not fire an employee for. Political persuasion being one of them. Fuck him - let him hang from the very laws they passed hoping to protect their own skin.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 11, 2016 05:07 PM (jxbfJ)

234 If and when we get national voter ID we might never see another Democrat vote for national office outside a half-dozen coastal states.

Speaking of that did they ever call MI or AZ?

Posted by: deplorable donna at November 11, 2016 05:07 PM (O2RFr)

235
allah's opinion is like his asshole, or however that saying goes

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (mBtaw)

236 'Amontillado?'

'I have my doubts.'

Revenge, retribution, anticipatory retaliation are the orders of the day. For too long, these people have been stamping their boots on our faces.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (yFtyj)

237 I am guessing, as have no idea and not a nanosecond to check, that Hot Smear's readers are down. Would be charitable and bless their hearts...thinking....NOPE!

I hope all the NeverTrumpers go down with their principles. I hope they are weeping as much as the wacked out libs, seeing their book sales tank, their friends abandon them, their sour underoos grow mold, sitting at their lonely laptops with the "T" letter stuck with the rust of their tears.

I want Glenn Beck's "empire" to hit bottom with his gold.

I want all to suffer for their opinionated bullshart that they spewed from every elite and better than thou orifice. I hope their hemorrhoids are raw from diarrhea, bordering on rectal prolapse.

This is mild for what I want to happen to the corruption by the Dims and the Pedo Island Clintons, who sold our national security out like beer pong at a frat party. Does one wonder why the damn Chinese fighter jets are identical to our Air Force's? Does one not wonder what the hell the Filipino maid printed at the Queen of Tertiary Syphilis' home? I want them all jailed. Each and every one. Marched in front of the WH in tar and feathers.

Bite moi, Never Trumpers. You are fortunate that WE WON to save you from worse than tanking on no readers. You were traitors to the cause of beating evil and corruption.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,Deplorable Infidel Queen at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (Cx8BK)

238 "211 @148

Its trending fast now.
If you google "mom throws out kid for voting trump" you will find lots of links.

The kid voted Trump in the grade school mock election.
She takes it out on him with some serious abuse.
That kids gonna be fucked in the head for a while.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 05:03 PM (5Z34V)"

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Disgusting.

Posted by: Community Organizer at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (9VLhN)

239 Hey here's a fantastical idea. Let's internet shame grub hub guy into oblivion.

And yes, that means being just like them.

It is the only way they will learn.

Posted by: blaster at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (stTTh)

240 "I think that is what is going on here. Mr. AllahPundit is attempting to argue and fight under rules and for a country which no longer exists. Afraid that is not going to work anymore. "

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No, he simply changed sides. I remember when he was on our side, his work was sharp and funny.

Now it's all supposedly friendly fire.

Posted by: Decaf at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (nogKi)

241 What the fuck is Allahpundit thinking? The boycott isn't a legal proceeding, it's a First Amendment reaction to a First Amendment action.

Now, if the genius CEO dumped his stock on Monday, or actually created a Hostile Work Environment (debatable) then he's in legal trouble. Right now he's just an idiot.

Posted by: Jason M at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (x2TzY)

242 86 Jesus, Ace. Take a step back. You're becoming Charles Johnson. Allahpundit is not your enemy. Anyone who objects to the clear infractions of Cheeto Jesus are not your enemies. Tolerate some diversity of thought on the Republican side, for Christ's sake.
Posted by: Trumpalo at November 11, 2016 04:46 PM (JNMri)

Yes he is. So are you. So is every single lying hack who worked against Trump calling me a racist, deplorable, etc -- because they were working to get Hillary elected, whether they are honest enough to admit that or not.
Cheeto Jesus turns out is Glenn Beck, not Trump.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (aNrvT)

243 >> Speaking of that did they ever call MI or AZ?

Both Trump. MI by less than 100K votes.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (TppKb)

244 "allah's opinion is like his asshole, or however that saying goes

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (mBtaw)"

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Bleached and loose?

Posted by: Community Organizer at November 11, 2016 05:09 PM (9VLhN)

245 I thought turn the other cheek was about pride?

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I thought it was about S&M.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 05:09 PM (Nwg0u)

246 223
How many dicks come in a bowl?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: A. Cooper at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (DMUuz)

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Depends on the donor of said dicks.

In my case, two dicks would fill a bowl nicely, but your mileage may vary. I'd say a typical bowl consists of 5-6 dicks.

Cheers.

Posted by: Community Organizer at November 11, 2016 05:05 PM (9VLhN)

Since university classroom auditoriums are bowlshaped, I'd say you'll get 150-200 dicks. Plus one big one standing in front of everyone.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 11, 2016 05:09 PM (jxbfJ)

247 Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 05:01 PM (TppKb)

yes, I'll see your "specifically" and raise you a 'many degrees of harm' ( or some such legalese )

Posted by: Billy Occam at November 11, 2016 05:09 PM (/542q)

248 It's funny. I cannot help but see a similarity between these post-election liberals and a schoolyard bully who has finally had the tables turned.

It's all well and good to f*ck with certain people until they collectively drop their backpack, take off their shirt, ball up a fist, and start approaching at an increased rate of speed.

That look (and sometimes terrified scream) of someone who wasn't expecting to get real resistance or prepared to be bullied back in return. Yeah, I'm loving every second of it. And you know what? ***Enough of letting ourselves be victimized by "playing fair."*** No letting up, giving an inch, or ceding points. It's time to play the libs' game by their rules.

Posted by: Shinjinrui at November 11, 2016 05:09 PM (4SznG)

249 >>Even Sean Davis, who I like, was snarking at Trump up until Election Day. I know he's a strong conservative, but this cycle he was also being a dick.

I've been completely over with the purity brigade on the right for years. Gee, Donald Trump isn't a conservative? No shit.

So tell me, after he won the nomination, and I didn't vote for him in the primaries, who was I supposed to support, Hillary? Forget advancing conservative positions, how does going in the complete opposite direction help conservatives?

Pundits who sit around and contemplate their purity or worse work agains me and now don't have the decency to admit they were wrong are worse than useless. I'd rather they just say "thank you" and sit down for a while.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 05:09 PM (/tuJf)

250 If Matt Maloney had sent a similar message to his employees about Clinton, he would already face an investigation by the FBI, the DOJ, the FEC and a host of other organizations.

As such he should expect exactly the same response, from any conservative state AGs right now, and for Trump after inauguration.

The way to stop this sort of scorched earth warfare isn't to get the left engage in it at will, but give it back to them even harder in a fully legal, by the letter of the law manner.

In all seriousness this is the most charitable and kindest response one could imagine. Because of the GOPers continue to allow the left to get away with everything, you will eventually get vigilantism.

Amusingly, this is rather the whole point of this election.

You think Romney is the anti-Christ? Well you get Trump. And be thankful you got Trump because the next guy would have been worse.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2016 05:09 PM (X7E8f)

251 How the living h-e-double hockeysticks was it RACIST for White Folks to vote for White Donny, but, not racist to vote for White Hilly, particularly, when White Hilly along with hubby White Billy have tons of racism and KKK associations in their past?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at November 11, 2016 05:09 PM (kXoT0)

252 What is Allahpundit's real name?

I want to know what to look for when he rebrands himself.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:10 PM (f4+HA)

253
Look at the difference in the two parties/sides.

Just days after the election, the Democrats are back in the War Room, while the Republicans are "reaching out."

Enjoy this time the R's are in power, because The Empire Is Going To Strike Back.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 11, 2016 05:10 PM (mBtaw)

254 Take more care. This is the sort of sloppiness up with which we will not put.
Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 04:58 PM

Hear, hear!

Let AoSHQ remain pointillist of artful grammar, and punctuation, in the realm of smart military blogs.

Posted by: Oxford Comma at November 11, 2016 05:10 PM (DMUuz)

255 I think Social Justice Warriors need to be renamed.Warriors don't cry.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 11, 2016 05:10 PM (hJrjt)

256 Well over 2300 votes in LegalInsurrection's on line poll Sould Trump pardon Hillary?
90% say no -10% said yes.

Nail the Witch to the wall, only way to make sure she doesn't rise again.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:10 PM (GH68B)

257 I'm thinking Hot Air has lost a lot of traffic because of this election.

I too finally dropped it from my bookmarks. I'd only kept it there because I'd use their headlines as a news aggregater.

Decided I don't even need them for that really. I've got more links than I can read from lots of other places, places without the weak sauce fold like a cheap suit attitude.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 11, 2016 05:10 PM (4ErVI)

258 Posted by: justaguy at November 11, 2016 05:06 PM (UnMRd)

Yes you are confused. One does not require the other.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 11, 2016 05:10 PM (IDPbH)

259 Lefties will be perfectly happy having their own, insane laws enforced against them. They really don't mind. They suffer the same under BarkyCare but they still love that and, even worse, want to take it further to a truly national socialist health care industry.

I'm sorry, but you are just way off course if you think it's a good tactic to press insane laws on the left when it's convenient. I assure you that is a losing battle. Even the idea that you think you are able to do that is more than a bit of a fantasy. In the end, you'll just end up having your argument FOR the insane laws hanging in the air and nothing will have been done.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 11, 2016 05:05 PM (zc3Db)

I don't think this assessment is correct. The reason that the Left hasn't had a problem living under Obamacare is because the constituency they care about has benefited, not been harmed by the law. The groups of people who did get harmed by the law (the working middle/lower class) who already had mediocre coverage have seen their premiums go through the roof, and they are conveniently the group that went for Trump the hardest.

Lefties try to design their laws in ways that structurally prevent them from being used against them. They never expected a Republican candidate to be making a class-based argument to appeal to the lower middle class.

Posted by: joe, living deplorably at November 11, 2016 05:10 PM (Pphy8)

260 All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's Reproductive Health Clinic think Trump should choose Al Sharpton as Secretary of State so that persons of color in other countries will be taken care of !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at November 11, 2016 05:11 PM (Fbj4h)

261 Personally, I agree that vengeance is the wrong approach. We should work to repair, to shrink the government, to roll back the wrong and evil, to protect people from predatory leftists and government encroachment, and to build a freer, more prosperous society.

Not punish, not get payback, not vengeance, not "street justice."

Instead of getting GrubHub back using the laws abused to punish cake bakers, roll back those attacks on cake bakers, reverse the decisions, and pass laws to prevent it from happening in the future.

Instead of using the IRS to punish Soros, clean house in the IRS and prevent it from being weaponized again.

It takes too much time and energy to get back at people, and that's time and energy that is better used being creative, constructive, and building the future we want to see instead of a perpetual use of big government to attack one side, then the other.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:11 PM (39g3+)

262 Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 05:03 PM (5Z34V)"

One of the links is to TMZ. That lady can expect a visit from the authorities for sure.

She's the one who posted the vid so she could show her peer group that she was disappoint the MOST.

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2016 05:11 PM (jkmtt)

263 255 - Thats all SJW's do

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:11 PM (GH68B)

264 "It's Payback Time" works just fine with me.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 11, 2016 05:12 PM (Jcg9Q)

265 242 86 Jesus, Ace. Take a step back. You're becoming Charles Johnson. Allahpundit is not your enemy. Anyone who objects to the clear infractions of Cheeto Jesus are not your enemies. Tolerate some diversity of thought on the Republican side, for Christ's sake.
Posted by: Trumpalo at November 11, 2016 04:46 PM (JNMri)

Yes he is. So are you. So is every single lying hack who worked against Trump calling me a racist, deplorable, etc -- because they were working to get Hillary elected, whether they are honest enough to admit that or not.
Cheeto Jesus turns out is Glenn Beck, not Trump.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (aNrvT)

You've become what you hate, whether you want to admit it or not.

Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:12 PM (kPHmB)

266 That kids gonna be fucked in the head for a while.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 05:03 PM (5Z34V)

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As someone who has dealt with teh crazy in my mom (in 2009, she ran off to Houston to marry Obama), it takes some time to unfuck yourself but you do eventually.

Posted by: Joy and Pain at November 11, 2016 05:12 PM (ahx2/)

267 My favorite election pic so far:

http://tinyurl.com/zllefx2

Posted by: Fred Rogers II at November 11, 2016 05:12 PM (AkTSb)

268 OK, all the lily pure NeverTrumpers here's your chance, give Donald your wonderful and valuable advice here on his website where he is asking for ideas.

https://www.greatagain.gov/

Be part of the solution or shut up.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at November 11, 2016 05:12 PM (kXoT0)

269 Speaking of that did they ever call MI or AZ?

Both Trump. MI by less than 100K votes.
Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (TppKb)

But he gets all 16 of MI's EV.
That puts him at 305 to 223 -- more EVs than any R since GHWB & 30 states.
Hillary's popular vote "win" of 400,000 votes (less than 1%) is all from the illegals voting in Texas, FL, NV, AZ, NM & CA.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 11, 2016 05:12 PM (aNrvT)

270 1 Samuel 15:3

Posted by: Billy Occam at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (/542q)

271 I refuse.

Learned the word refusenik re: a Math prof that got thrown out of the USSR for talking to them. Smart guy, horrible teacher, went home and burned my notebook after the final.

Meanwhile didn't we do tit-for-tat (the algorithm Morons) last week.

Posted by: DaveA at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (8J/Te)

272 BTW - How much of Christian history has observed strict pacifism? If it did it would not exist today as a religion.
***
In the middle Ages, the Caliphate had conquered most of Spain and parts of Italy. The conquering armies did not leave because of hug-a-thons or even sharply worded letters.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (X7E8f)

273 One article I'd love someone like Ace to do is what is happening to voters in terms of numbers?

2016 had less voters than 2012, which had less voters than 2008.

Bush got more votes in 2004 than Romney in 2012 or Trump in 2016.

If a Republican was able to turn out a 2004 total, this election would have come close to Reagan's landslides.

Where are these people going?

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (f4+HA)

274 I agree with you, it's not forking payback time we are reacting to a violent hateful movement that has the media spouting their lies and propaganda. He can turn the other cheek till his face bleeds, but I am done playing who's a libertarian with violent liberal anarchist and black supremacists. This isn't payback, it's called responding to the left's hatred on a daily basis. Can't stand the heat, get out of our way.

Posted by: Rose at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (HA8mN)

275 The idea that this vengeful, intolerant spirit of using the same Social Punishment tactics against those who themselves use Social Punishment tactics is a new thing created by Trump and only subscribed to by Trumpers is... let us say, ahistorical and without support in the literature.

I would just like to reiterate ace's point here, and emphasize how STUPID and obviously false this is.

It is normally illegal and immoral to kill or injure people.

But what if they attack you first?

There is nothing vengeful, spiteful, immoral, shameful or unseemly about self defense.

It is idiotic to classify certain actions as immoral regardless of context.

When you employ like tactics against an immoral aggressor, you are still playing by the rules which is why it is legal to kill someone who invades your home.

I do not get this posture that there is some element of cheating if we use the left's tactics against them. Or that we will some how be allowing such tactics to be used against us, when they are already being used against us.

It's like Monty Python and the Holy Grail when Michael Palin was being stoned for heresy.

"I warn you, you're only making it worse for yourself!"

"Worse? How could it be any worse???"

We will not be bringing any measures against ourselves that aren't already being used, if we retaliate in kind.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (OkKDg)

276 253

Look at the difference in the two parties/sides.

Just days after the election, the Democrats are back in the War Room, while the Republicans are "reaching out."

Enjoy this time the R's are in power, because The Empire Is Going To Strike Back.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 11, 2016 05:10 PM (mBtaw)
I agree. Hopefully we have bought at least 4 more years to arm up (more).

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (jxbfJ)

277 It takes too much time and energy to get back at people, and that's time and energy that is better used being creative, constructive, and building the future we want to see instead of a perpetual use of big government to attack one side, then the other.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:11 PM (39g3+)

Completely disagree.

There's no point in creating or building if there are people out there just waiting to destroy it.

Destroy the destroyers, then build is how things will work best going forward.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (Jcg9Q)

278 This Election was for all those normal Americans that were tempted at times to spit on their hands, hoist the pirate flag, and begin slitting throats. Instead we gave the GOPe & Leftards the finger and voted for Trump. I slept well afterwards too.

Posted by: Guy Who Says ARGH! At The Mention Of Hillary at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (ndGCC)

279 264 "It's Payback Time" works just fine with me.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 11, 2016 05:12 PM (Jcg9Q)

Yeah, as someone who didn't get on the the Trump train, I gotta admit I'm still really enjoying the schadenfraude. A lot.

Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (kPHmB)

280 It takes too much time and energy to get back at people, and that's time and energy that is better used being creative, constructive, and building the future we want to see instead of a perpetual use of big government to attack one side, then the other.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I largely agree, but a few "examples" being made also has value.

Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (LAe3v)

281 As such he should expect exactly the same response, from any conservative state AGs right now, and for Trump after inauguration.

Expect, I agree. but not see happen. Instead he should see these agencies being rolled back, defanged, and de-weaponized, so they aren't used like that again against anyone.

Not out of some ethical system of turning the other cheek -- although I have no problem with that -- but out of sheer practical points of time, money, and will. Its going to take too much of all that just to dial back the Obama agenda. We cannot spare any time being petty and bitter when there's so much to do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:14 PM (39g3+)

282 ThePrimordialOrderedPair,

"Why would anyone read anything allahpundit writes, anyway? I don't get it."

This. I always found Allahpundit's posts to be tortuous exercises in mental masturbation. Couldn't really take anything he said seriously because he was basically just a 40 year old boy who attained reached his middle age without attaining anything resembling seriousness or principles. Most of the time I would just skip down and read the commenters. Thankfully most of the good ones ended up here.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at November 11, 2016 05:14 PM (IKsp1)

283 HTL at 123: "Applying the laws prohibiting retaliation for political activity is,
similarly, in no way equivalent to persecuting bakers and pizzeria
owners. In fact it is the exact opposite of that."

This. This right here. This is exactly what I was thinking, written much more clearly than I could have.

Allahpundit basically says: "Look, you conservatives, you like businesses, right? You always think that in a disagreement between a business and an individual, the business is right, like you did with that homophobe baker? Well, here, GrubHub is a BUSINESS. Dummy."

It's as if Allahpundit doesn't understand the reasoning behind conservatives' views, because Allahpundit is not xerself a conservative. Xhe's like an anthropologist living among the primitives, pretending to be one xerself.

I'm thinking not too many conservatives are going to be visiting sites like that. And certainly not too many progressives will -- they have more echo-y echo chambers in which to seek solace and lick wounds. I think maybe Allahpundit should get xer resume' in order.

Posted by: Pastafarian at November 11, 2016 05:14 PM (OWWiT)

284 235
allah's opinion is like his asshole, or however that saying goes

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (mBtaw)

Accepting of liberals?

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 05:14 PM (z/Ubi)

285 You've become what you hate, whether you want to admit it or not.

Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:12 PM (kPHmB)

Bwahahahaha! Using SJW b.s. memes on me? I give a flying fig what guy who supported Hillary but is too dishonest to admit it thinks because ___?

Don't like me, then don't join my fan club bitch.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 11, 2016 05:14 PM (aNrvT)

286 I agree. Hopefully we have bought at least 4 more years to arm up (more).

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (jxbfJ)

We have.

But the day Trump leaves the WH, whenever that day is, y'all better be prepared.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 11, 2016 05:14 PM (Jcg9Q)

287 >>>AP is really only pissed about one thing.<<<

Low testosterone? Low Energy?

Posted by: Fritz at November 11, 2016 05:15 PM (aylpz)

288 Hillary's popular vote "win" of 400,000 votes (less than 1%) is all from the illegals voting in Texas, FL, NV, AZ, NM & CA.

Don't forget all of the dead people in Illinois and Ohio that voted for Hillary as well.

Posted by: Crusader at November 11, 2016 05:15 PM (ewSN2)

289 Juan an idiot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2016 05:15 PM (dELE3)

290 Just delurking to say: Right On, Ace!

JustDave in GR

Posted by: JustDave in GR at November 11, 2016 05:15 PM (KBiU/)

291 You've become what you hate, whether you want to admit it or not.

Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:12 PM (kPHmB)

I hate evil.

That doesn't make me evil. It makes me want to destroy evil. Nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 11, 2016 05:15 PM (Jcg9Q)

292 As for AllahPundit, I don't think he just came up with this view over Trump. I think he has been pretty consistent about not boycotting companies even when they admit they want to destroy conservatives, and sometimes even America.

I am sure he is a good person, and means well, but he must be related to the Civil War general Gen. George B. McClellan somehow. Even the snarky, bitchy, defeatist attitude is like McClellan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_B._McClellan

Posted by: William Eaton at November 11, 2016 05:15 PM (MuTTO)

293 Have not done a deep dive on the numbers, but you can see the NeverTrumpers had a big impact in certain states, like New Jersey. Counties that are usually very Red, like Somerset and Morris, were either close or won by Clinton. These are wealthy counties. On the other hand, Trump got more votes out of Ocean County than any other county in NJ. Ocean County is working class Republican.

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 11, 2016 05:15 PM (O1N2y)

294 268 OK, all the lily pure NeverTrumpers here's your chance, give Donald your wonderful and valuable advice here on his website where he is asking for ideas.

My advice: don't hire Bob Corker. For ANYTHING.

Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 05:16 PM (LAe3v)

295 vengeance is the wrong approach

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During his second inaugural address, Lincoln alled for charity toward all, malice to none. I'm more take all their names, kick all their asses.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 05:16 PM (Nwg0u)

296 Oh is this another thread where the Catholic Church and Christianity in general is condensed into a "yeah they are violent too" by people claiming to be Catholic or Christian and who actually know very little which is factual about its history or doctrine?

Because that really needs a little more then pedestrian comments by Google Professors. Maybe its own blog. Because that's how long it would take for an actual contextual historical discussion.

Maybe you want to knock that off- ok?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2016 05:16 PM (usi7i)

297 Regardless of his views, at least Allahpundit can string sentences together coherently. Most of the HotAir writers are basically mommyblog caliber jackasses.

Posted by: wooga at November 11, 2016 05:16 PM (qA3QY)

298 You're not overreading it. If Allah reads these comments (doubt it), he should know that he's totally tonally switched. Poker tells are everywhere. His powers of analysis have suffered because he's in denial about what he wants.

On Twitter he lets the mask slip a little.

Posted by: Knemon at November 11, 2016 05:16 PM (WvxuI)

299 Well over 2300 votes in LegalInsurrection's on line poll Sould Trump pardon Hillary?

90% say no -10% said yes
***
Publicly humiliate Comey and accept his resignation.

Appoint a new head of the DOJ and FBI.

Have them find a noted fair, but aggressive prosecutor.

Let him investigate the Clinton Foundation and give Hillary her fair day in court....in front of a noted conservative judge.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2016 05:16 PM (X7E8f)

300 Well ... even the expectation that there is some "correct" split of the white vote that would prove that it isn't "racially motivated" (the horror) is incorrect. The left and the right don't represent equally defensible sides in their views of the nation. A reasonable and sane population would have only a sparing vote for the left (just the weak personalities, self-haters and nihilists). If whites had gone 85% for Trump that would be better proof that whites weren't voting racially but were merely that much saner and more well-adjusted than other groups.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 11, 2016 05:01 PM (zc3Db)

From the standpoint of statistical analysis, you start with the results of the population as a whole, and then look at the results for various sub-groups and try to explain them. The further from the value from the overall population you are, the likelier it is that your sub-group is either based on a 'significant' (used in the statistical sense) factor, or has a very high correlation/causation with the actual factor.

So for whites to split 58/42 is not that far off the 'true' (more statistical talk) result, which was (again, I'm rounding here) 48/48. But splits in the 70/30 or 90/10 range indicate that something is definitely going on and that your group selection criteria is either the primary factor or incredibly closely connected with it.

So that's where I was going with that point.

Posted by: HTL at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (mUWne)

301 Don't like me, then don't join my fan club bitch.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 11, 2016 05:14 PM (aNrvT)

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oooh.

a tough guy.

with the name dancing queen.

i'm scared.

really.

can't you tell?

Posted by: Joy and Pain at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (ahx2/)

302 If a Republican was able to turn out a 2004 total, this election would have come close to Reagan's landslides.

Where are these people going?

Peruvia.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (Yu4ah)

303 Juan an idiot
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2016 05:15 PM (dELE3)

The correct term is Person of Addle.

Posted by: Cicero, Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (ZLQuU)

304 I would guess all votes above Trumps total for Hillary are easily fraudulent votes, dead, illegal, double tally, filling in absent voters.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (GH68B)

305 Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (X7E8f)

How about the Gates of Vienna, at a later date?
Because that's how far Islam got.
And it was not settled by a Dialogue Circle, but lots and lots of bloodshed.
And that's why we have Christianity today.
Class over.

Posted by: tubal at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (d6TTt)

306 Catamite for Trump's Cabinet = Allahpundit.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (ej1L0)

307 That wasn't Sherman, he was talking about. That was Sherman, quoting Lincoln, talking about Sigel.

Sorry for the nit-pick

No problem, too lazy to stretch out the arm for Shelby Foote and going by memory.

Anyway, "History is bunk!"--Abe Vigoda.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (nd1zx)

308 236 'Amontillado?'

'I have my doubts.'

Revenge, retribution, anticipatory retaliation are the orders of the day. For too long, these people have been stamping their boots on our faces.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 11, 2016 05:08 PM (yFtyj)

A thousand injuries we have born - but when they ventured on insult, we vowed revenge.

Posted by: @Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (Om16U)

309 294 268 OK, all the lily pure NeverTrumpers here's your chance, give Donald your wonderful and valuable advice here on his website where he is asking for ideas.

My advice: don't hire Bob Corker. For ANYTHING.
Posted by: pep at November 11, 2016 05:16 PM (LAe3v)

What if he creates a Department of "Do the opposite of what that guy tells you"

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (z/Ubi)

310 Don't like me, then don't join my fan club bitch.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 11, 2016 05:14 PM (aNrvT)

May I apply for membership in your fan club please?

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (jkmtt)

311 All we are saying is give hate a chance.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (Nwg0u)

312 FoxNewsResearch
11/11/16 17:15
The Dow's 959.38-point gain this week was the largest weekly point gain in its history.

Paul Krugman wrong again

Posted by: Evilpens at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (y3aQB)

313 "It's Payback Time" works just fine with me.
Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 11, 2016 05:12 PM (Jcg9Q)

Yeah, as someone who didn't get on the the Trump train, I gotta admit I'm still really enjoying the schadenfraude. A lot.

Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (kPHmB)

Yeah I'm enjoying it so much I even debate going on Fuckbook for a week or so just for a few laughs and see which friends/family I need to write out of my life forever.

I have better things to do though still.

*eyes whisky*

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 11, 2016 05:18 PM (Jcg9Q)

314 Yeah, as someone who didn't get on the the Trump train, I gotta admit I'm still really enjoying the schadenfraude. A lot.

So you didn't want to do the work but you sure do want to share in the spoils. Bet you're the type that shows up at parties empty handed and stuffs your face.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 11, 2016 05:18 PM (WlGX+)

315 Yeah, as someone who didn't get on the the Trump train, I gotta admit I'm still really enjoying the schadenfraude. A lot.
Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (kPHmB)

Why would you enjoy something that you had no part in and, in fact, actively worked against?
You're a dishonest hack -- slinging arrows at Trump supporters at how hate-filled and racist they are yet reaping the rewards of their efforts like a welfare queen.
Are you sure you aren't a Democrat? Because you sure act like one.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 11, 2016 05:18 PM (aNrvT)

316 T-The Infowars, guy-Paul Watson has a righteous rant about the anti Trump protests which we al knew are funded by Soros:

http://tinyurl.com/j46kld8

Hillary or Obama spoken against violent protests yet?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 11, 2016 05:18 PM (tOcW/)

317 Look, NeverTrumpers cost Trump the popular vote and likely 2-3 states.

But I think it was probably worth it to get rid of these traitors. We now know who they are and we don't let them back in the fold.

The Bush dynasty was probably dead after Jeb losing the primary, it's REALLY, REALLY dead after the way that family showed its ass torpedoing Trump at every opportunity. Same with the Romney clan.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:18 PM (f4+HA)

318 I can't stand the leftist pundits. Not even to do Ann Coulter's hate watching.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:18 PM (GH68B)

319 Lefties try to design their laws in ways that structurally prevent them from being used against them. They never expected a Republican candidate to be making a class-based argument to appeal to the lower middle class.

Posted by: joe, living deplorably at November 11, 2016 05:10 PM (Pphy

I really could not disagree more. Lefties do not special tailor their laws to skip them out. Lefties just try to make the most insane, un-American, anti-Western laws they possibly can. That is what animates the left - hatred of the West, a self-hate that pushes them straight into nihilism. It isn't a political thing.

Trump didn't make any class-based appeal. He made an appeal to the notion of America, dedicated to "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and to our Posterity" and to the idea that winning is a good thing. This resonated with the lower-middle class because they have lost out on the sale of America to the third world, but Trump made no specific policy recommendations targeted only at that class. His dislike of the open trade bullshit would still exist regardless of the effect on the working class, because they're all awful deals for America. Not giving away jobs in America for nothing is a national issue, not a class issue. It is about having a strong, deep country with a future.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 11, 2016 05:18 PM (zc3Db)

320 --
building the future we want to see instead of a perpetual use of big government to attack one side, then the other.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

-----------------

The other side will never learn the downside to big government without some pain.

Posted by: irright at November 11, 2016 05:19 PM (pMGkg)

321 I can't help but add in the external information I already have about AP's general stance about "Trumpian" spirits.

I think you're right on this, and incorporating external information is completely understandable.

Here's the thing about AP, in opinion: (i) He is contemptuous of Trump. This doesn't offend me personally, b/c I don't much like Trump either, but of course this will piss off people who genuinely like Trump; (ii) he occasionally comes across as a little contemptuous of reluctant Trump supporters, and that annoys me a little, because now it's personal (i.e. he's talking about me).

Ace, you had a tweet a few days ago about not wanting to dance on people's graves, but some people were just begging you to dance on theirs, by continuing to re-litigate Republican nomination. That's understandable, too, but if you're really trying to avoid that dance, you won't be looking for the bitchiness where it's only maybe, kinda, sorta there.

And you can't help having noticed that the last two comments threads have turned into a bit of the SJW wolfpack attacks that you don't like.

Posted by: zincfinger at November 11, 2016 05:19 PM (Bj229)

322 Is it me or do I resent being called a Trumpian, Trump is but a symptom of the problem. If it were not trump it would be anybody but the establishment. Not third party just not the Dems or the GOPe. I guess what I'm trying to say is a smaller constitutional federal govt is all I want.

Posted by: USNtakim at November 11, 2016 05:19 PM (hMqvx)

323 >>>allah's opinion is like his asshole, or however that saying goes

Everyone has one?

Posted by: Hope Solo at November 11, 2016 05:19 PM (qA3QY)

324 I'm with Allah.

My sacred honor compels me to use Grub Hub.

Posted by: Will Folks at November 11, 2016 05:19 PM (4sT4b)

325 I would love to see the Trump administration pull out all those promises Obama made, using the exact same words, but actually carry them out.

Stuff like the most transparent administration ever. Stuff like pushing lobbyists out of the White House. Stuff like putting bills on the internet for people to read and analyze before signing or vetoing.

Things like that which were good ideas that Obama immediately ignored when in power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:19 PM (39g3+)

326 And a Big Beautiful wall.

Posted by: USNtakim at November 11, 2016 05:20 PM (hMqvx)

327 Bwahahahaha! Using SJW b.s. memes on me? I give a flying fig what guy who supported Hillary but is too dishonest to admit it thinks because ___?

Don't like me, then don't join my fan club bitch.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 11, 2016 05:14 PM (aNrvT)

Seeing as Trump won, Allahpundit hurt Hillary by not voting for her. So did I. You're welcome.

Whether you care about something or whether I care about something is of no concern to anybody else.

Your feelings and my feelings count for absolutely nothing in any political argument.

There is not a dime's worth of difference between anybody who thinks they do and a SJW.

Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:20 PM (kPHmB)

328 During his second inaugural address, Lincoln alled for charity toward all, malice to none. I'm more take all their names, kick all their asses.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 05:16 PM (Nwg0u)

Worked out great for him, didn't it?

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 11, 2016 05:20 PM (Jcg9Q)

329
George Soros is running a criminal organization, the sole goal of which is to foment insurrection.

He should be tried for sedition, stripped of his assets and either incarcerated for life or deported.

Thoughts?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 05:20 PM (mbhDw)

330 You're becoming Charles Johnson.

It's Jharles Chonson. That useless, attention-starved loser relentlessly search-engines himself to see who's talking about him. We don't give him the satisfaction.

And unless and until Ace goes full-on Prog and bans 99% of the commenters, you can go eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Takin' My Time on my Ride at November 11, 2016 05:21 PM (WlGX+)

331 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 05:20 PM (mbhDw)

Google how much he owes the US in Taxes

Posted by: Evilpens at November 11, 2016 05:21 PM (y3aQB)

332 them watch the scene from Wargames where the computer plays tic-tac-toe with itself.

It takes 19 or less lines of LISP to teach a computer to always tie tic-tac-toe.

Posted by: DaveA at November 11, 2016 05:21 PM (8J/Te)

333 George Soros is running a criminal organization, the sole goal of which is to foment insurrection.

He should be tried for sedition, stripped of his assets and either incarcerated for life or deported.

Thoughts?

You should start a newsletter?

Posted by: Cicero, Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at November 11, 2016 05:21 PM (ZLQuU)

334 During his second inaugural address, Lincoln alled for charity toward all, malice to none. I'm more take all their names, kick all their asses.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 05:16 PM (Nwg0u)

------------------------------------------------------------------

That is after Lincoln unleashed Sherman on the South...

Posted by: William Eaton at November 11, 2016 05:21 PM (MuTTO)

335 "What if he creates a Department of "Do the opposite of what that guy tells you"

Hey that's our job!

Posted by: Steve Schmidt, Mike Murphy and Rick Wilson at November 11, 2016 05:21 PM (IKsp1)

336 The other side will never learn the downside to big government without some pain.

They'll just learn to use it harder and hold on to power longer to keep using it.

...or we can work to make using that way harder by weakening their power and reducing their influence on our lives.

Which seems like a better long-term solution to you, and has the advantage of not betraying basic principles of small government and liberty?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:21 PM (39g3+)

337 >>Your feelings and my feelings count for absolutely nothing in any political argument

Not really. You didn't bother to vote. Your opinions mean less.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (/tuJf)

338 I would also like to confess that, way back when, I used to read Andrew Sullivan. Then I noticed that he was always getting facts wrong, especially if they involved logic or numbers. And then he lost his mind.

So basically, if Bill Gates is a Nehru jacket and a persian cat away from evil supervillain status, Allahpundit is just a beagle and a Melania pregnancy away from turning into the world's second most annoying Uterus Detective.

Posted by: HTL at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (mUWne)

339 allah's opinion is like his asshole, or however that saying goes

-
"Full of shit"?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (Nwg0u)

340 George Soros is running a criminal organization, the sole goal of which is to foment insurrection.

He should be tried for sedition, stripped of his assets and either incarcerated for life or deported.

Thoughts?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Trump should simply let the Russians have him.

Send a military jet to make on of his private planes land in an inhospitable place.

The man is a domestic terrorist.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (f4+HA)

341 He should be tried for sedition, stripped of his assets and either incarcerated for life or deported.

Sedition laws were taken off the books in the early 20th century for obvious 1st amendment reasons. But he is guilty of trying to undermine and overthrow the government which plainly is treason. I think he should be shown the door as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (39g3+)

342 You've become what you hate, whether you want to admit it or not.

***
In 1941-1945 Americans did a lot of terrible things. But doing them was the only moral choice. Because the alternative was worse.

People get silly when they ask if the ends justify the means. The answer to that question is always what are the ends and what are the means?

Our ends are to save our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Enforcing the letter of the law to do so is hardly an objectionable means.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (X7E8f)

343 I voted for Trump to defeat Hillary but I'm not required to like or trust him. Trump supporters who continue to demand we kneel down to Trump or feel their wrath can kiss my ass.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (IDPbH)

344 Look, NeverTrumpers cost Trump the popular vote and likely 2-3 states.

But I think it was probably worth it to get rid of these traitors. We now know who they are and we don't let them back in the fold.

The Bush dynasty was probably dead after Jeb losing the primary, it's REALLY, REALLY dead after the way that family showed its ass torpedoing Trump at every opportunity. Same with the Romney clan.
Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:18 PM (f4+HA)

Good observation -- it was worth it to get these traitors out, which is why I'm not allowing them to try to weasel their way back in, like AllahPundit & the poster AD here who claims to be "enjoying the scheudenfreude" of Trump's win, something he actively worked against from happening. They need to go join the Dems where they belong.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (aNrvT)

345 333
You should start a newsletter?
Posted by: Cicero, Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at November 11, 2016 05:21 PM (ZLQuU)

Been there, done that. Click the nic.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 05:23 PM (mbhDw)

346 308. And that's why we love you, votermom. A Poe fan on top of it all.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 11, 2016 05:23 PM (yFtyj)

347 He should be tried for sedition, stripped of his assets and either incarcerated for life or deported.

Thoughts?>>>

Pushed out of a C130 at 20,000' sans parachute.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 11, 2016 05:23 PM (tf9Ne)

348
Thoughts?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 05:20 PM (mbhDw)

----------------------------------------------------------

Agreed...

Posted by: William Eaton at November 11, 2016 05:23 PM (MuTTO)

349 Worked out great for him, didn't it?

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 11, 2016 05:20 PM (Jcg9Q)

Right up to when he took the Mrs. to the show, yes.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 11, 2016 05:23 PM (jxbfJ)

350 341 He should be tried for sedition, stripped of his assets and either incarcerated for life or deported.

Sedition laws were taken off the books in the early 20th century for obvious 1st amendment reasons. But he is guilty of trying to undermine and overthrow the government which plainly is treason. I think he should be shown the door as well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (39g3+)

Door. As in trapdoor? Oh yes indeed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 05:23 PM (mbhDw)

351 343 I voted for Trump to defeat Hillary but I'm not required to like or trust him. Trump supporters who continue to demand we kneel down to Trump or feel their wrath can kiss my ass.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (IDPbH)

I honestly don't think anyone here wants that.

Posted by: tubal at November 11, 2016 05:24 PM (d6TTt)

352 I would also like to confess that, way back when, I used to read Andrew Sullivan. Then I noticed that he was always getting facts wrong, especially if they involved logic or numbers. And then he lost his mind.

________

I did as well, and it's amazing to me how he lost his mind all over one single issue, gay marriage, and everything about his ideology changed to accomodate that. And this was still the era where not a single elected Democrat supported gay marriage publicly.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:24 PM (f4+HA)

353 One of the links is to TMZ. That lady can expect a visit from the authorities for sure.

She's the one who posted the vid so she could show her peer group that she was disappoint the MOST.

--

Good news Houston Morons - one of the sites dug up her info and she is SINGLE!

Posted by: @Deplorable votermom @vm on Gab at November 11, 2016 05:24 PM (Om16U)

354 George Soros is running a criminal organization, the sole goal of which is to foment insurrection.

He should be tried for sedition, stripped of his assets and either incarcerated for life or deported in pieces.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 05:24 PM (Nwg0u)

355 So for whites to split 58/42 is not that far off the 'true' (more statistical talk) result, which was (again, I'm rounding here) 48/48. But splits in the 70/30 or 90/10 range indicate that something is definitely going on and that your group selection criteria is either the primary factor or incredibly closely connected with it.

So that's where I was going with that point.

Posted by: HTL at November 11, 2016 05:17 PM (mUWne)

Yes, I understood what you were trying to say but you started with an incorrect assumption - that there is some "fair" splitting of the cotes a group, racially, that can even be determined. There is not. That is what I was explaining in saying that there is no ideological parity between left and right in America. You would not expect a sane American population to split its vote anything near evenly in choice between left and right.

In other words, if white split evenly between dem and GOP that would just demonstrate that the white population is not quite sane and emotionally damaged. To be more specific, lots of whites who voted for barky did so mostly out of racial reasons, but that is exactly opposite of what any sort of even-based statistical analysis would say about the white vote in 2008.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 11, 2016 05:24 PM (zc3Db)

356 344 Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (aNrvT)

McAuliffe's 60,000 pardoned criminals and all the illegal alien and Buick Le Sabre trunk ballots cost him the popular vote.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 05:24 PM (mbhDw)

357 George Soros is running a criminal organization, the sole goal of which is to foment insurrection.
He should be tried for sedition, stripped of his assets and either incarcerated for life or deported.
Thoughts?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 05:20 PM (mbhDw)

Agree....use every means at his disposal Trump should to get Soros in jail and deported and his wealth confiscated.

We can use his confiscated wealth to fund our big, beautiful wall. Deport him to Russia, I hear they are looking for him.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 11, 2016 05:24 PM (ej1L0)

358 315 Yeah, as someone who didn't get on the the Trump train, I gotta admit I'm still really enjoying the schadenfraude. A lot.
Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:13 PM (kPHmB)

Why would you enjoy something that you had no part in and, in fact, actively worked against?
You're a dishonest hack -- slinging arrows at Trump supporters at how hate-filled and racist they are yet reaping the rewards of their efforts like a welfare queen.
Are you sure you aren't a Democrat? Because you sure act like one.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at November 11, 2016 05:18 PM (aNrvT)

Answer 1: Because I don't like the left. They've been doing this stuff for years, and I enjoy them losing it and realizing what deep shit they're in after screwing so many people.

Answer 2: Well, guy I anonymously met on the internet five seconds ago, please provide me a long list of everything I have and haven't done during this campaign.

You are what you hate. There is not a dime's worth of difference between you and an SJW.

Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:25 PM (k9zhU)

359 Trump supporters who continue to demand we kneel down to Trump

Said the straw man.

Posted by: Dang at November 11, 2016 05:25 PM (8b+oT)

360 329

George Soros is running a criminal organization, the sole goal of which is to foment insurrection.

He should be tried for sedition, stripped of his assets and either incarcerated for life or deported.

Thoughts?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 05:20 PM (mbhDw)
RICO statutes. Surely we have more on him than we did on Capone.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 11, 2016 05:26 PM (jxbfJ)

361 ALL MUST TAKE THE TRUMP PLEDGE!!!!

Posted by: Cicero, Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at November 11, 2016 05:26 PM (ZLQuU)

362 Jesus Juan is as stupid as dog shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2016 05:26 PM (dELE3)

363 I'm not a Trumpian, I'm a Trumpet (for Liberty, freedom and our Rights as US citizens)

Posted by: Cn at November 11, 2016 05:26 PM (wczgi)

364 You make GrubHub eats his words and actions so another CEO doesn't get to "purge" and torture his employees for their individual voting decisions.

Believe me, people in Silicon Valley are taking notice and if they see a billion dollar company get destroyed over this, they will make damn sure they don't make the same mistake.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:26 PM (f4+HA)

365 351 343 I voted for Trump to defeat Hillary but I'm not required to like or trust him. Trump supporters who continue to demand we kneel down to Trump or feel their wrath can kiss my ass.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (IDPbH)

- - - - -

Be more dramatic.

Posted by: Community Organizer at November 11, 2016 05:27 PM (9VLhN)

366 George Soros is running a criminal organization, the sole goal of which is to foment insurrection.

He should be tried for sedition, stripped of his assets and either incarcerated for life or deported.

Thoughts?

About what? What's left? You nailed it.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2016 05:27 PM (Yu4ah)

367

But we have a weapon more powerful than any in the whole arsenal of the [Totalitarian Progressive State], and that weapon is our refusal. Our refusal to bow to any order but our own, any institution but our own.Irish democracy, bitchez!

Posted by: What Would Michael Collins Do? at November 11, 2016 05:27 PM (rznWS)

368 "I read it the way you read it. In fact I would just like to state right here and now that HOTAIR has become very hard to read for many months now. It feels like they are schooling the rubes just like the left has to school the rubes. Allahpundit has changed. I read who he is really is on the Belmont Club in the comments over there. I am not sure I trust his posts at all anymore."

--------

What do the comments there say?

Posted by: Decaf at November 11, 2016 05:27 PM (nogKi)

369 >>>Trump won because many working-class (and college-educated) whites voted the way other racial blocs do.

I don't mean to be pedantic here, but isn't Hillary white?

She lost because her politics were evil and in the interests of Democrat leadership consolidating power for itself.

Or, to put it another way, if a black votes against a klansmen, is that racist? Of course not. Race is involved of course, but only because the other party immorally injected that into the equation. In this case, Hillary.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 11, 2016 05:27 PM (OkKDg)

370 342 You've become what you hate, whether you want to admit it or not.

***
In 1941-1945 Americans did a lot of terrible things. But doing them was the only moral choice. Because the alternative was worse.

People get silly when they ask if the ends justify the means. The answer to that question is always what are the ends and what are the means?

Our ends are to save our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Enforcing the letter of the law to do so is hardly an objectionable means.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (X7E8f)

Yep. To be clear, when I say "you've become what you hate," I mean specifically the person I was responding to.

Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:27 PM (k9zhU)

371 See I think ace is talking about the leftwing version of Jesus I call cartoon jesus.

Basically, a bad decision guru for life, a suicide cult where you give away your spleen to arm your enemy.

Fuck that shit. Don't be conned.

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at November 11, 2016 05:28 PM (QztpB)

372 Shit hate keeps me young

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2016 05:29 PM (dELE3)

373 372 Shit hate keeps me young
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2016 05:29 PM (dELE3)

And warm. And winter is coming.

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 05:29 PM (z/Ubi)

374 Believe me, people in Silicon Valley are taking notice

I agree, the market can murder companies that do this, not the government. Target already has taken it in the breadbox, and this has to keep happening. Be a jerk and lose your money. That's the answer, not government power.

I think Soros could easily be tried for treason and found guilty. I don't think there's a single person in the world, even his Spiit Dining demon worshipping son who'd weep a tear if he was hanged to death for his crimes. I think England and Russia would declare a national holiday.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:29 PM (39g3+)

375 "you've become what you hate,"
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I hate what I've become.

Posted by: Trigglypuff at November 11, 2016 05:29 PM (8b+oT)

376 337 >>Your feelings and my feelings count for absolutely nothing in any political argument

Not really. You didn't bother to vote. Your opinions mean less.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 05:22 PM (/tuJf)

We're arguing political debates through feelings now. Awesome.

Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:29 PM (k9zhU)

377 322 Is it me or do I resent being called a Trumpian...

Posted by: USNtakim at November 11, 2016 05:19 PM (hMqvx)

It may or may not be worth noting, but that AP post didn't actually use the word "Trumpian". It did use "Trumpism", and I have no doubt he's used "Trumpian" before.

Posted by: zincfinger at November 11, 2016 05:29 PM (Bj229)

378 --
...or we can work to make using that way harder by weakening their power and reducing their influence on our lives.

------------

In a perfect world I'm on your side. I just don't think it's possible without a certain amount of the left rejecting big government as dangerous.

Posted by: irright at November 11, 2016 05:29 PM (pMGkg)

379 allah's opinion is like his asshole, or however that saying goes

Everyone has one?
Posted by: Hope Solo at November 11, 2016 05:19 PM (qA3QY)

=====

And most stink.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 11, 2016 05:30 PM (UD28m)

380 McAuliffe's 60,000 pardoned criminals and all the illegal alien and Buick Le Sabre trunk ballots cost him the popular vote.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 05:24 PM (mbhDw)

Was it the 2008 or 2012 election that exposed serious irregularities in NV voting machines? Haven't done a search yet, but you seem to be knowledgeable in so many ways.

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2016 05:30 PM (jkmtt)

381 Latest cut-nose-off-to-smite-my-face-ism.

https://tinyurl.com/zx56u3t

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 05:30 PM (Nwg0u)

382 If people weren't so dumb, all Soros' $ and machinations would have no effect.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 11, 2016 05:30 PM (OkKDg)

383 >>We're arguing political debates through feelings now. Awesome.

No. I'm saying quite plainly if you didn't bother to get off you ass and participate then I consider both your opinions and feelings irrelevant.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 05:30 PM (/tuJf)

384 Shit hate keeps me young

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2016 05:29 PM (dELE3)

Keeps me focused too.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 11, 2016 05:31 PM (Jcg9Q)

385 The Republican Establishment is going to kick into " managing expectations" mode any time now.
Even though they are only ancillary to the win, they will insert themselves in to the dialog, by means of their cushy Mass Communications gigs.

They will try and dampen any enthusiasm for Trump and his possibilities, with a combination of " realpolitik" and the attitude of " comity".
Tried and true buzzkills.

Posted by: tubal at November 11, 2016 05:31 PM (d6TTt)

386
He should be tried for sedition, stripped of his assets and either incarcerated for life or deported.

Thoughts?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 05:20 PM

You left out "shot". Other than that, works for me.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 11, 2016 05:31 PM (QZLci)

387 381 Latest cut-nose-off-to-smite-my-face-ism.

https://tinyurl.com/zx56u3t
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I AM SPARTACUS! at November 11, 2016 05:30 PM (Nwg0u)

- - - -

These people are literally retarded.

Posted by: Community Organizer at November 11, 2016 05:31 PM (9VLhN)

388 In 1941-1945 Americans did a lot of terrible things. But doing them was the only moral choice. Because the alternative was worse.

In this sinful world sometimes we are faced with two evil choices, two bad things. We have to sometimes pick one of them, to stop a worse evil or to prevent a worse horror. When we do so, we should then repent and strive to prevent that from ever coming up again. To me, this is the essence of war: a horrendous evil that we must, regretfully and reluctantly, engage in when things get too awful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:31 PM (39g3+)

389 allah's opinion is like his asshole
-----
Should I wipe it, like with a cloth?

Posted by: HILLARY!!! at November 11, 2016 05:31 PM (8b+oT)

390 316 @FenelonSpoke

Obozo made 'pro-forma' noises, and that's about it.

Remember that he met *multiple* time with both BLM and that 'rat working for FAB who coordinated the violence at Trump rallies.

I suspect he's all the right numbers on speed-dial, and perfectly okay with current event.

That's my guess.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2016 05:33 PM (ry4ab)

391

There is a potent and respectable ethic of total pacificism and refusal to retaliate for wrongs in existence.

Yes, and it only works in sufficiently-civilized societies, specifically, those in which all those involved are roughly equal in the society, and have equal access to law and justice.

It fails in Islamic societies. It fails in (traditional) East Asian societies. It was un-imagined in New World (pre-Columbian) societies. It worked for Gandhi, because the British were very much more civilized than the Moguls (and those that came before), everyone knew what would happen if Gandhi failed, and the British knew the eventual outcome.

It fails in high school, and I think we all remember this. "Refusal to retaliate for wrongs" in high school was a useful tactic, because the administration always solves things the easy way (unless you get a lawyer or the police involved) and because high school ends.

Well, it used to end, but the rise of PC and SJWs has extended the conditions to certain areas of modern life.

"Refusal to retaliate for wrongs" is really not an option because, as we've seen (and are seeing in various big cities at night), the SJWs will not stop.

Actually, they will stop, once they feel enough pain, an enormous amount of pain.

So, choose: play their game, tit-for-tat, preferably with interest, until they play by The Rules ... or live under increasingly degrading conditions, with heaps of lies and abuse, forever.

Posted by: Arbalest the Deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:33 PM (FlRtG)

392 389 allah's opinion is like his asshole
-----
Should I wipe it, like with a cloth?
Posted by: HILLARY!!! at November 11, 2016 05:31 PM (8b+oT)

- - -

What difference at this point does it make?

Posted by: Community Organizer at November 11, 2016 05:33 PM (9VLhN)

393 Latest cut-nose-off-to-smite-my-face-ism.

https://tinyurl.com/zx56u3t

Meh. I burned an entire head of lettuce this morning to protest the GrubHub douchebag.

Posted by: Cicero, Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at November 11, 2016 05:33 PM (ZLQuU)

394 I don't miss HA, but there are a few old commenters that it would have been sweet to see rend their garments after the Trump win. Idiots like V7_Sport and joana in particular, since they were obnoxious establishment remoras.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at November 11, 2016 05:33 PM (kumBu)

395 351. All this talk about 'kneeling before Trump' is idiocy. The people who voted for him did not kneel and will not kneel. That was the whole point.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 11, 2016 05:33 PM (yFtyj)

396 Preach. Amen, ACE.

Posted by: JB at November 11, 2016 05:33 PM (5ntXg)

397 You left out "shot". Other than that, works for me.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 11, 2016 05:31 PM (QZLci)

Careful, the boss might still be around.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 11, 2016 05:33 PM (Jcg9Q)

398 Based on the way he had been posting I thought AD might actually be Amish Dude. So that gives you some insight into the behavior of his posts before Tuesday. Now he wants to pretend like he's all high minded and above it all.

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 05:34 PM (z/Ubi)

399 Then they must be enforced neutrally.

IDK if anyone ever expanded the tit-for-tat retaliation with multiples e.g. Hit back 3 times for every one, might be interesting. Certainly over-enforcement of stupid laws on the stupid authors would take them out of the voting to continue the stupid pool thus allowing a quicker repeal.

Posted by: DaveA at November 11, 2016 05:34 PM (8J/Te)

400 Former hitler minion George soros?

Nazi hunt his ass

Posted by: Lord Sir x at November 11, 2016 05:34 PM (nFwvY)

401 I will not submit.

Posted by: Browncoat formerly known as Mike at November 11, 2016 05:34 PM (o38N1)

402 377 @zincfinger

I'm cool with being referred to as a Trumpkin.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2016 05:34 PM (ry4ab)

403 "In multiracial societies, you don't vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion."
-Lee Kuan Yew

Congrats, lefties. You're well on your way to achieving your dream of a totally balkanized society.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at November 11, 2016 05:34 PM (rznWS)

404 60 On Wednesday the associate pastor at my church posted on FB: The feurer presidency begins...

Posted by: WASP & Unashamed at November 11, 2016 04:41 PM (gwG9s)

It's very frustrating; I think many churches are driving people away with this. I'm not particularly religious, but would be interesting in participating in a church. But it's really hard to find one that doesn't do this kind of crap.

Posted by: zincfinger at November 11, 2016 05:35 PM (Bj229)

405 Yes, and it only works in sufficiently-civilized societies,
specifically, those in which all those involved are roughly equal in the
society, and have equal access to law and justice.
***
I've read a few theoretical takes on how Gandhi's pacifism would have worked had Germany or Japan ended up ruling India after WWII. Needless to say it doesn't work.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2016 05:35 PM (X7E8f)

406 383 >>We're arguing political debates through feelings now. Awesome.

No. I'm saying quite plainly if you didn't bother to get off you ass and participate then I consider both your opinions and feelings irrelevant.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 05:30 PM (/tuJf)

No, that wasn't what you were saying. You've now switched it to opinions--which I at least respect--but wasn't my argument or your initial one.

But, good for you. I'm sure you'll feel the same way of many people Trump brings into his administration then.

Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:35 PM (k9zhU)

407 I say tomato.

Posted by: SOMESASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at November 11, 2016 05:35 PM (nQHw/)

408 McAuliffe's 60,000 pardoned criminals and all the illegal alien and Buick Le Sabre trunk ballots cost him the popular vote.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 11, 2016 05:24 PM (mbhDw)

Was it the 2008 or 2012 election that exposed serious irregularities in NV voting machines? Haven't done a search yet, but you seem to be knowledgeable in so many ways.
Posted by: kallisto

I know our Republican Congress won't have the balls, but they could tie voter ID laws to highway funding for states.

This has been tested over and over in the Courts and held up, so if a state doesn't have basic voter ID and purge the voter rolls of dead people, no highway funding.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:35 PM (f4+HA)

409
I did as well, and it's amazing to me how he lost his mind all over one single issue, gay marriage, and everything about his ideology changed to accomodate that. And this was still the era where not a single elected Democrat supported gay marriage publicly.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:24 PM (f4+HA)

He was interesting to read, even if he was histrionic. Then his entire viewpoint changed over whether the rest of the world accorded him the proper respect for who he decided to have sex with. It felt like he decided whether to put ketchup or mustard or burger through the lense of what a gay man might do.

Posted by: El Skippito Friskito at November 11, 2016 05:35 PM (kZVsz)

410 Latest cut-nose-off-to-smite-my-face-ism.

https://tinyurl.com/zx56u3t

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

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Like New Balance gives a fuck. They still have your money in their pockets, dumbasses! LOLZ!

Posted by: Dang at November 11, 2016 05:35 PM (8b+oT)

411 Steve and cold bear- I think you're wrong a bit. The whole planet has big goverment - socialism, communism, dictators. Freedom from government was only to be found here. So one could easily take it humans like or can be talking into having goverment control their lives.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:35 PM (GH68B)

412 The feurer presidency begins...
***
As we all know, the little corporal was elected on a platform of limiting immigration into Germany and cleaning up governmental corruption, right?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2016 05:37 PM (X7E8f)

413 that site used to be deplorable, not any more.

Posted by: wynfred at November 11, 2016 05:37 PM (B5nty)

414 The witch lost. you don't need to worry about grammar any more.

Just because:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js

Probably not for the Inauguration parade but it's gotta get played somewhere.

Posted by: DaveA at November 11, 2016 05:37 PM (8J/Te)

415 "Also, I stopped going to Hot Air when Ed Morrissey endorsed Rick Santorum and turned the site into Catholic Catholic Catholic every day until 5PM. Salem Communications neutered that site with that fat bald dope."

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That was more than compensated for by Allah's constant in your face atheism that followed it.

Posted by: Decaf at November 11, 2016 05:37 PM (nogKi)

416 398 Based on the way he had been posting I thought AD might actually be Amish Dude. So that gives you some insight into the behavior of his posts before Tuesday. Now he wants to pretend like he's all high minded and above it all.
Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 05:34 PM (z/Ubi)

Not really, I'm just enjoying the whining of the left and hoping to be wrong, actually. It wouldn't be the first time or the last.

Posted by: AD at November 11, 2016 05:37 PM (k9zhU)

417 365
351 343 I voted for Trump to defeat Hillary but I'm not required to like
or trust him. Trump supporters who continue to demand we kneel down to
Trump or feel their wrath can kiss my ass.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

-------------------------------------

This.. only I did not vote for Trump. But I was also a "NeverHillary". And am very happy with her loss, and hope she takes a long deserved retirement from political life. Perhaps a few more investigations, and a retirement facility can be found for her...with bars.

For those saying I should not be allowed to celebrate her loss: LOL.

I still do not trust Trump, and plan to hold him just as accountable by calling out his errors, just as I did about Obama. Anyone saying that we should turn a blind eye is setting us all up for failure.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 05:37 PM (5Z34V)

418 >>In this sinful world sometimes we are faced with two evil choices, two bad things. We have to sometimes pick one of them, to stop a worse evil or to prevent a worse horror. When we do so, we should then repent and strive to prevent that from ever coming up again. To me, this is the essence of war: a horrendous evil that we must, regretfully and reluctantly, engage in when things get too awful.

And as Clausewitz said, politics is war by other means.

When faced with a choice between Hillary and the Donald a lot of people realized they had to make a choice between two options. It doesn't mean everyone who voted for Trump think he is the second coming or even all that conservative. We know what he is. And Hillary is far, far worse. She actually is evil.

This after the fact posing by Never Trumpers that somehow they are morally pure by abstaining is just an attempt to justify doing nothing. I don't care at all what they think.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 05:37 PM (/tuJf)

419 I don't see it as "Trumpian" to punish a Social Justice Warrior

+1000

Posted by: The Duke of Mish at November 11, 2016 05:37 PM (Tyii7)

420 We're a smart bunch, Ace.

We don't need you to Trumpsplain stuff to us.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at November 11, 2016 05:37 PM (d/rRV)

421 Has any dem come out with the Russians hacked the election because Trump and Putin are buddies excuse yet?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 11, 2016 05:37 PM (6Ll1u)

422 Ace, I have always thought the basic concept of America as a culture is:

"Ain't gonna."

At some point, pressure always comes to that.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 11, 2016 05:37 PM (OkenW)

423 They are free to fire whoever they want as a business. Just as customers are free to chose whether or not to patronize that business.

Posted by: Lanrick at November 11, 2016 05:38 PM (gb5Af)

424 I'm pretty sure that coroner midgets hat would sail him right outta Oz on a windy day though.

Posted by: DaveA at November 11, 2016 05:38 PM (8J/Te)

425 A lot of these arguments sound vaguely familiar to the ones we had before President Elect Trump won?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 11, 2016 05:39 PM (dELE3)

426 395 @Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants

More to the point, Trump hasn't asked (to my knowledge) anybody to kneel.

Anyone claiming otherwise is probably projecting.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2016 05:39 PM (ry4ab)

427 A ring-necked pheasant is like a giant squid since both have a least two legs, therefore, uh, Burma!!!

Posted by: Allahpundit the not at November 11, 2016 05:39 PM (df+Zi)

428 This is what happens when one snorts cocaine. Immediately after the snort everybody gets really serious about horseshit.

Posted by: R. DUKE at November 11, 2016 05:39 PM (ONH2e)

429 So one could easily take it humans like or can be talking into having goverment control their lives.
***
Protestant Christianity created a culture that could support freedom. Societies that never had that advantage, or more recently rejected it, will go back to the historical norm of strongmen of various flavors.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2016 05:39 PM (X7E8f)

430 Anyone saying that we should turn a blind eye is setting us all up for failure.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon
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Got a link for that?

Posted by: Dang at November 11, 2016 05:39 PM (8b+oT)

431 322 Is it me or do I resent being called a Trumpian...

Posted by: USNtakim at November 11, 2016 05:19 PM (hMqvx)

I prefer to be called a Trumpet.
That way they can blow me.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2016 05:39 PM (Yu4ah)

432 And as Clausewitz said, politics is war by other means.

And, to expand on the point of war, to fight a war without all your strength and might and fury is evil, because to fail to do so causes the war to be extended and prolonged, resulting in longer and more horrors to be perpetrated by both sides. Fast and furious and horrific, shocking and total. Get it done, completely, as quickly as possible or generations suffer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:40 PM (39g3+)

433 Criticize THIS bitch.

http://tinyurl.com/hw2pvoo

Posted by: Joy and Pain at November 11, 2016 05:41 PM (ahx2/)

434 How many dicks come in a bowl?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: A. Cooper at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (DMUuz)

Buy a cup of dicks instead. It is only a couple of ounces less, but the bowl gets sold for about three dollars nore

Posted by: Kindltot at November 11, 2016 05:41 PM (OkenW)

435 Got a link for that? -------------
??

Referring to someone (dunno who) above that implied we all need to get on the Trump train, or get out.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 05:41 PM (5Z34V)

436 I don't see it as "Trumpian" to punish a Social Justice Warrior

+1000

Posted by: The Duke of Mish
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I'll see that +1000 and raise you +2000, sir!

Posted by: Dang at November 11, 2016 05:41 PM (8b+oT)

437 http://tinyurl.com/za2ojsm

Posted by: Joy and Pain at November 11, 2016 05:42 PM (ahx2/)

438 I still think GrubGoob's face looks very punchable.

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2016 05:42 PM (2WITp)

439 I WILL REFUSE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUHsBuCKSdI

Posted by: PAILHEAD at November 11, 2016 05:42 PM (6ToNi)

440 "It also proved that they were none too bright. Trump won because he read the anger of the American people over the application of a Double Standard that was so blatantly wrong and so strong that no matter the crime, there would be no attempt at equal justice under the law."

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There was plenty of anger to read in the comments section of his posts if Allah deigned to read them but he went on Twitter and sneered at his readers instead. That was the beginning of the end of Allah's influence.

Posted by: Decaf at November 11, 2016 05:42 PM (nogKi)

441
The worst case for Trump beats the best case for Hillary.

He might screw up the economy. He might sell us out tot he SJWs. But Hillary would have - it was her damned platform.

We just dodged the likely end of the republic in any meaningful sense.

That doesn't mean there isn't a ton of work even if Trump does come through for us, but it at least means we have a chance....

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2016 05:42 PM (X7E8f)

442 Yes, I understood what you were trying to say but you started with an incorrect assumption - that there is some "fair" splitting of the cotes a group, racially, that can even be determined.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 11, 2016 05:24 PM (zc3Db)

I did not start with an assumption regarding 'fairness". Analytically speaking, you (and by 'you' I mean 'me') start with the 'true' value for the total population (in this case 48/4

and then see if the group/factor you are looking at differs from that enough, statistically speaking, for that to be 'significant'. "Fair" has nothing to do with it.

So the result of any reasonable analysis would conclude that whites did not vote like other racial blocs, and that other factors were in fact more significant drivers for members of that group.

Posted by: HTL at November 11, 2016 05:42 PM (mUWne)

443 I believe the proper way to punish cultural aberrations and perversions like "Social Justice" warriors is through cultural shaming and shunning. Punish them in the culture, not with the government's power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:43 PM (39g3+)

444 Been watching Midway with Charlton Heston on AMC, not a great war movie for Vet Day but is about the turning point in the Pacific War.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:43 PM (GH68B)

445 >>And, to expand on the point of war, to fight a war without all your strength and might and fury is evil, because to fail to do so causes the war to be extended and prolonged, resulting in longer and more horrors to be perpetrated by both sides. Fast and furious and horrific, shocking and total. Get it done, completely, as quickly as possible or generations suffer

Exactly. Absolute War.

Clausewitz was a smart dude.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 05:43 PM (/tuJf)

446 Anyone here that is one of those icky " gun- clingers" ( like me) , stay alert for the reduced price ammo. In honor of President- Elect Donald Trump.
Saw the first signs of it today. .22 and .223 was trending Down.

Good times, good times.

Posted by: tubal at November 11, 2016 05:43 PM (d6TTt)

447 Speaking of voter irregularities. NC Republican governor is behind less than 5,000 votes.

Durham, the blackest city in NC kept it's polls open and extra 90 minutes, held their vote total till the last count and then dumped 90,000 votes into the mix, 80% democrat.

Making Chicago look like pikers.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 11, 2016 05:43 PM (NbJXF)

448 Trump is now suggesting he might "amend" Obamacare rather than repeal and replace it. An Islamic advisor to Trump, Walid Fares, said on CNN that he's not going to "rip up the Iran deal", but renegotiate it instead.

On the other hand, Christie is out as head of the transition team, and Pence is in.

Ying and yang, ebb and flow.

Posted by: Evan3457 at November 11, 2016 05:43 PM (OWrhC)

449 Allahpundit has changed. I read who he is really is on the Belmont Club in the comments over there. I am not sure I trust his posts at all anymore.

Posted by: Janetoo at November 11, 2016 04:47 PM (t3qE+)

Don't tease. Details or link?

Posted by: cool breeze at November 11, 2016 05:44 PM (StZrq)

450 There's a collage at WZ of twats on twatter claiming their 8 years olds are scared and not sleeping well.

The most horrific thing about it is that some poor 8 year old apparently has Sally Kohn as a mother.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at November 11, 2016 05:44 PM (FqgrG)

451 IIRC, Allinsky has a rule about making the other side live up to their beliefs or some such?

I guess that is a one way street. It's not payback time. It is time to go back to the center. Using their tactics pisses the leftists off because they are effective.

FOAD Allah!

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:44 PM (cOHS7)

452 Is there somewhere that *isn't* temper-tantrumy?

Maybe like some deep cavern or orbital platform or something?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2016 05:44 PM (wB8Tg)

453 426. Bingo. The CPT completes mt thought and point perfectly.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at November 11, 2016 05:45 PM (yFtyj)

454
No they wouldn't They identify each other by their virtue signaling and you aren't participating.

They know.

Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at November 11, 2016 04:35 PM (3myMJ)

Witness that safety pin thing making its way around the 'nets. That's not about signaling people who might really be in danger, its about signaling who you voted for.

Or, as I saw tweeted, "I'd be interested in reading your letter to your daughter, if you had really written it to her and not to your peers."

Posted by: El Skippito Friskito at November 11, 2016 05:45 PM (kZVsz)

455 I used to visit Hot Air everyday. Now, it has been deleted from my history, and I will not voluntarily go there ever again. Allah and Ed aren't conservatives, they're Vichy GOPe.

Gulp on that Allahpundit....

Posted by: wytshus at November 11, 2016 05:45 PM (EVi2J)

456 How many dicks come in a bowl?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: A. Cooper at November 11, 2016 05:02 PM (DMUuz)
..................

Is that what you're calling your butthole now?

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2016 05:46 PM (2WITp)

457 My mistake in 448 above. Walid Phares is lebanese Christian, not Islamic.

Posted by: Evan3457 at November 11, 2016 05:46 PM (OWrhC)

458 I'm cool with being referred to as a Trumpkin.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2016 05:34 PM (ry4ab)

I'm cool with being called a motherfucking cocksucker, depending on who's doing the calling.

Posted by: zincfinger at November 11, 2016 05:46 PM (Bj229)

459
@441 "We just dodged the likely end of the republic in any meaningful sense."
------------------------------------------------

For a while about 2 years ago, I believed it was already too late. That we had hit the point of no return.
I am not as bad, today, but still not 100% convinced I am wrong. To me, the election was only about how fast the end gets here. And I still think its coming.

I pray every day I am wrong about this.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 05:46 PM (5Z34V)

460 Muslim Trump voter calls out the "liberal honor brigade"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG6rNcsVOaA

She fears the extremist interpretations of islam occurring over the world.

CNN interview

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2016 05:46 PM (jkmtt)

461 443 I believe the proper way to punish cultural aberrations and perversions like "Social Justice" warriors is through cultural shaming and shunning. Punish them in the culture, not with the government's power.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:43 PM (39g3+)

Yes, but one of the bad things about laws like these for people is that they can only see it's effect when used against their enemies. Sometimes they need an object lesson in seeing it used on allies to get why it is a bad idea.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 11, 2016 05:46 PM (92kX2)

462 Speaking of "wrong". From 3 days ago...take it, Jorge.

http://tinyurl.com/px89ho8

Posted by: tu3031 at November 11, 2016 05:47 PM (qJhUV)

463 hILLRY Suicide Watch Day 3
Anybody see her today?
Gee, I hope she's OK.

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2016 05:47 PM (2WITp)

464 Ace has game on right now. I believe that ruminations have under way in Ace's mind for sometime. And it is now time to pounce.

We have an ideological war under way for both political parties. In the "life cycle " - Birth, Growth, Maturity, Death, I happen to believe that the Republicans are one stage ahead of the Democrats. Minds of the electorate are up for grabs and are looking for something to attach themselves too.

As is reflected in Ace's post, FREEDOM really means something. Right now, I believe that a "Trumpian" mindset is a move in the right direction - FREEDOM wise.

Yah, yah, I gave my self an out.... "right now"

Keep it up Ace because this is just the beginning somewhere in the "cycle of life".....

Posted by: LurkersincebeforeKaboom at November 11, 2016 05:48 PM (vB0KY)

465 HA is owned by Salem Communications, which owns about 50 Christian radio stations. That is why every Sunday they have bible verse.

They now link at least one WaPo story everyday. I think WaPo is giving them a kickback for the hits.

There beta site absolutely sucked. It lasted a week. I go over there just to check out what they have. I stopped commenting there years ago. Too many thin skinned assholes.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 11, 2016 05:48 PM (NbJXF)

466 Trump is now suggesting he might "amend" Obamacare rather than repeal and replace it. An Islamic advisor to Trump, Walid Fares, said on CNN that he's not going to "rip up the Iran deal", but renegotiate it instead.

_______

It was always going to be messy once millions were "on" ObamaCare.

It would be like reforming an entitlement like Social Security or MEdiCare, you can't tear it up over night. That's Obama's fault, not Trumps.

There will probably be some transition, but it's gone. Even Democrats know it doesn't work.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:48 PM (f4+HA)

467 An Islamic advisor to Trump, Walid Fares, said on CNN that he's not going to "rip up the Iran deal", but renegotiate it instead.

Posted by: Evan3457 at November 11, 2016 05:43 PM (OWrhC)

Walid Fares is a smart guy and knows his stuff. He's a good guy, too. He's one of the better advisors concerning dealings with the arab and islamic worlds.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 11, 2016 05:48 PM (zc3Db)

468 You left out "shot". Other than that, works for me.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 11, 2016 05:31 PM (QZLci)

Careful, the boss might still be around.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at November 11, 2016 05:33 PM

In case there was any question, I was referring to judicially-imposed sentences, not lawlessness. Just sayin'.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 11, 2016 05:49 PM (QZLci)

469 Trump supporters who continue to demand we kneel down to Trump or feel their wrath can kiss my ass.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Wow. That's a pretty restrictive policy. Hell, anyone can kiss my ass.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 11, 2016 05:49 PM (NUqwG)

470 The ONLY way to respond to a bully is to treat the bully the way he treats others. Period. Otherwise bullies gonna bully forever.

You let them get away with the small stuff, i.e., the GrubHub dustup, and eventually you get Robt Creamer and Scott Foval hiring thugs to try and beat the snot out of the rest of us at our own rallies.

The Left has strong totalitarian instincts and the only way to show their more loosely affiliated members the danger there is to hit them with their own petard.

Posted by: Boots at November 11, 2016 05:49 PM (EBwPV)

471 446
Anyone here that is one of those icky " gun- clingers" ( like me) , stay
alert for the reduced price ammo. In honor of President- Elect Donald
Trump.

Saw the first signs of it today. .22 and .223 was trending Down.

Good times, good times.
--------------------------------

Damn I just bought a bunch of .223 too, at not a cheap price... grrrr.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 05:49 PM (5Z34V)

472 If you want to read a horrific, grisly story with a grim sense of truth, check out the story of Pippa Bacca

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Bacca

Short version: she decided to hitchhike across the Muslim world to prove it was safe and not filled with hate and brutality. She disappeared and was found raped and murdered.

Life will come calling and all the insisting upon your worldview will not change that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:50 PM (39g3+)

473 I wasn't previously aware of this. It sounds like Allah is being a whiny bitch to me.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 11, 2016 05:51 PM (X2m/e)

474 "Trump was not the cause of the issue; the issue was the cause of Trump."
Yay-men to that.
But....who doesn't like "It's payback time"??

Posted by: scoville unit at November 11, 2016 05:51 PM (hWh8W)

475 @383: "No. I'm saying quite plainly if you didn't bother to get off you ass and
participate then I consider both your opinions and feelings irrelevant."

Participation in a corrupt political system is acceptance and endorsement of the corrupt political system. Your opinions and feelings are therefore irrelevant as well. So nobody has anything to contribute.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at November 11, 2016 05:51 PM (rznWS)

476 "Personally, I agree that vengeance is the wrong approach. We should
work to repair, to shrink the government, to roll back the wrong and
evil, to protect people from predatory leftists and government
encroachment, and to build a freer, more prosperous society.

Not punish, not get payback, not vengeance, not "street justice.""

This is a prescription to lose the country. You actually think that mentally ans psychologically retarded people will like the evil right? They never will, they never compromise, and with few exceptions they never see the light.

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:51 PM (cOHS7)

477 allah gets paid by the pound for his writing...after about 2 ounces I'm done with his 16 level chess game of wordsmithing

Posted by: DanMan at November 11, 2016 05:52 PM (RusNE)

478 Ace, did you not post an article about how you were going to withdraw and play get along with the Liberal fascists after the election? You were going to stop fighting and join the enemy? Maybe I'm just imagining it...maybe I'm just on the wrong site...but it sure seems like something I read here.

Posted by: Chris at November 11, 2016 05:52 PM (C5VQV)

479 Guess what Maloney (virtue signaling phoney)

I'm not order with Grubhub spit in conservatives food tonight.

Just send your drivers out into Baltimore...how can come back alive?

Posted by: Jack at November 11, 2016 05:52 PM (YX9fV)

480 >> This has been tested over and over in the Courts
>> and held up, so if a state doesn't have basic voter
>> ID and purge the voter rolls of dead people, no
>> highway funding.

no highway funding, no law enforcement money, no school money, federal facilities and staff moved out of the state, it's a shame the Federal government has this much control over state behavior but at this moment I want to see it used like a fucking hammer.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 05:52 PM (TppKb)

481 WZ has eight year old tweets by their lying moms? Sally Kohn, fag with adopted kid, says her kid wants to know if Trump is as bad as Caesar.

She expects us to believe that? Seriously? Her eight year old knows who Caesar is? Maybe she takes her to Little Caesars for cheap pizza?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 11, 2016 05:52 PM (NbJXF)

482 Amen, amen, amen.

Posted by: CrankyYankee at November 11, 2016 05:52 PM (TwYBt)

483 Punish, reward, whatever.

In politics, you have to PLAY TO WIN!

All the time. Compromise is getting half of what you wanted, in hopes of getting the other half next week.

All this talk about punish, reward, etc. It is just a means to an end.

Of course, the Left and Democrats do it, to intimidate their own followers and the opposition. And it works.

You don't HAVE to do it, but it is base human nature to WANT to do it. It is the root of a lot of tyrannies and dictatorships around the world.

I don't want that in my country. Sure, I would really like to GET AFTER a lot of the Left really hard.

But in cutting down the laws that protect all of us, who then could stand in the wind that blows through a land without laws? That is what the Left has been gunning for during the decades long march through various institutions. They were getting close. Cut down all the laws and rule by fiat (not the Italian car).

This election may have forestalled them for a while. The answer is follow the law, due process, transparency in as much as possible. Maybe we can ever restore the Budget process, and stop with the continuing resolutions for budgets which we have had for years.

The opposite of Obama and his XO's, his lying and dissembling about any number of issues, and you can name a hundred.

The actual Rule of Law, instead of the rule of the lying jackass.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at November 11, 2016 05:53 PM (RFeQD)

484 Breaking: New poll says Clinton margin shrinking to +3%...

Posted by: Crusader at November 11, 2016 05:53 PM (ewSN2)

485 Anyone here that is one of those icky " gun- clingers" ( like me) , stay
alert for the reduced price ammo. In honor of President- Elect Donald
Trump.

Saw the first signs of it today. .22 and .223 was trending Down.

Good times, good times.

Definitely looking forward to ammo prices going down, and I personally do believe there was some collusion and purposely limiting supply to create scarcity going on with the manufacturers.

The idea that 22 ammo was "sold out" for basically 5 years straight just never made much sense.

As soon as some of the imported brands got here, suddenly the established American brands were able to crank out enough.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:53 PM (f4+HA)

486 There are so m at straw men in this thread it's becoming a fire hazard.

How about we stick with actual events and things which actually happened. Because The War of the Hypothetical is becoming tiresome.

Self defense is actually existential. You challenge that which threatens your existence. I don't see this as punishment. I see it as a defense mechanism

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2016 05:53 PM (usi7i)

487 For 1/2 hr election night I truly feared the end of the country before knowing any result.
20-30 million new Spanish speaking citizens with a few hundred thousand Arabic ones would change a lot.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:53 PM (GH68B)

488 472 If you want to read a horrific, grisly story with a grim sense of truth, check out the story of Pippa Bacca

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Bacca

Short version: she decided to hitchhike across the Muslim world to prove it was safe and not filled with hate and brutality. She disappeared and was found raped and murdered.

Life will come calling and all the insisting upon your worldview will not change that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:50 PM (39g3+)

Horrible but avoidable. She might as well as doused herself in blood and jumped into a shark tank.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 11, 2016 05:53 PM (X2m/e)

489 I agree Ace....thank you, nice post.

Posted by: Brian at November 11, 2016 05:53 PM (cGic1)

490 >> Ace, did you not post an article about how you were
>> going to withdraw and play get along with the
>> Liberal fascists after the election?

What, you expect consistency?

Seriously, though, I think ace's pissy-hissys are mostly targeted at the GOPe cranks, and we're still not sure they're done.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 05:53 PM (TppKb)

491 This after the fact posing by Never Trumpers that somehow they are
morally pure by abstaining is just an attempt to justify doing nothing. I
don't care at all what they think.

=======

If you choose not to decide , you'll still have made a choice.
/Rush

I am a Trumpian who has been living Trumpism for over a year now.

Trump for me was not so much a candidate as much as an act of self defense.

Allahpundit screeching about "voter blocks" and "tactics" tells me that he was not as down on totalitarianism as he pretended to be and that he may well have been a beneficiary.

A pox on the Nevertrumpers and their cowardice.

Posted by: Mortimer, negative, dark, divisive and deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:54 PM (zu88C)

492 Important context is that Grubhub is a public company. In the last two days, it's lost about 10% of its market cap -- a loss of about $300 million, while the stock markets were going up strongly. That wasn't the CEO's money to lose.

What the CEO sent out was similar to the kinds of letters that have been sent out by academic administrators in response to the horror of Trump winning, but even more ham-handed than most. He retracted it the next day, but some damage to the company had already been done.

A CEO who fucks up like this may not be CEO for long. In fact much of the sell-off is the market realizing that this young whipper-snapper may not be the right guy for the job.

Others will hopefully get the message and leave their personal politics at home.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 11, 2016 05:54 PM (SIY7D)

493 This is a prescription to lose the country.

Shrinking the size and power of the government is a prescription to losing the country? Seriously?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:54 PM (39g3+)

494
An Islamic advisor to Trump, Walid Fares, said on CNN that he's not going to "rip up the Iran deal", but renegotiate it instead.

Ripping up the Iran deal at this point is meaningless.Billions in energy contracts and trade deals have already been inked with Europe and they won't go along with reimposing sanctions

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 11, 2016 05:54 PM (lKyWE)

495 It was always going to be messy once millions were "on" ObamaCare.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 05:48 PM (f4+HA)

They're on MediCaid, really. And MediCaid is the health expense issue that has to be taken care of, first, in the bulging feral government budget. barky supercharged MediCaid for BarkyCare, and that was the most dangerous part of the whole POS.

But they are going to have to suffer like I suffered by having my insurance rates jump 200% in 3 years and my deductible climb 100% (all for a narrower network, thank you) in order to provide funds so that those leeches could have a health insurance card even as they continue to do what they always did and fill the emergency rooms whenever they feel a sniffle.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 11, 2016 05:54 PM (zc3Db)

496 I woke up Wednesday morning, a little hung over, but almost giddy with relief. I had little hope that the Beast could be defeated, and yet this happened.

Trump will almost certainly irk me during his tenure as president, but I do know this:

He will not be playing golf during any crisis.

He will not take luxurious vacations on our dime.

He will most likely work harder than any president we've seen in a very long time.

Trump is not perfect. Not even close. But he is not a demon.

So if any choose to call me a Trumpian, otr a Trumpkin, or a Deplorable, I will shrug and say, "meh. At least I'm sleeping better at night than I have in 8 years."

Posted by: Pug Mahon of the Clan Deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:54 PM (RwwCT)

497 Tone? I want to kick ass and take names.

I gotcher tone, ritecheer.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 11, 2016 05:55 PM (0F67M)

498 I guess that is a one way street. It's not payback time. It is time to go back to the center. Using their tactics pisses the leftists off because they are effective.

Yeah, about a year ago I got tired of preening posturing better than thou a-holes in my face. Whenever they started their morally superior naming and shaming nonsense, I would hit back with: That's offensive.

It would shut them right up. Their targets were never supposed to use that term, they were the only ones who were allowed to be offended.

In the other thread where RWC was socking a SJW, I used the "cultural appropriation" attack, turn the tables on the little snots.

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2016 05:55 PM (jkmtt)

499 >>Participation in a corrupt political system is acceptance and endorsement of the corrupt political system. Your opinions and feelings are therefore irrelevant as well. So nobody has anything to contribute.

You sound like one of those clowns burning down Portland. There was nothing corrupt about the election save for the usual Democrat ballot stuffing.

My participation is an attempt to remove as much corruption as possible, hence my vote against the corrupt Clinton machine. If you have any evidence of corruption in public office by Trump then bring it on.

Otherwise, your statement doesn't really mean anything.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 05:55 PM (/tuJf)

500 Wow. That's a pretty restrictive policy. Hell, anyone can kiss my ass.

Personally, I encourage people to look before they leap.

Posted by: Hope Solo at November 11, 2016 05:56 PM (DMUuz)

501 463 hILLRY Suicide Watch Day 3
Anybody see her today?
Gee, I hope she's OK.
Posted by: wth at November 11, 2016 05:47 PM (2WITp)

I do too. I want her to be able to see Trump's inauguration.

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 05:56 PM (z/Ubi)

502 Fuck the SJW's and Allahpundit can suck a bag of donkey cock.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 11, 2016 05:56 PM (89T5c)

503 Breaking: New poll says Clinton margin shrinking to +3%...

Posted by: Crusader at November 11, 2016 05:53 PM (ewSN2)
............

+12 among American born relatives of Muslim Brotherhood

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2016 05:56 PM (2WITp)

504 >> they won't go along with reimposing sanctions

Then they can pay them themselves.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 05:56 PM (TppKb)

505 Ace, did you not post an article about how you were going to withdraw and play get along with the Liberal fascists after the election?

That was working under the assumption that Hillary won. I advised everyone to go 1000% on government assistance, signing up for everything whatsoever to get money and goods from the government as well. If Hillary won, that was the wise move, because we no longer would have any tatters of the constitution left, and no more America to work in.

As it is, we have damn little enough.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:57 PM (39g3+)

506 Principled Conservatives have been preemptively surrendering to the gods of culture pretty much since Reagan left office. That's #HowWeGotRomney and #HowWeGotDole

When we folks in ideological fly-over country decided we were sick and tired of being lied to and bullied by the self-imposed guardians of culture we got #PresidentTrump

So yeah I'm sort of done with the whole preemptive surrender game.

Posted by: DocJ at November 11, 2016 05:57 PM (vOveD)

507 >>> Trigger? Whatever. it will piss you off. As it should piss off everyone.
http://tinyurl.com/jyc3t7k
Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 04:31 PM (5Z34V)

The video was deleted. Anyone know of a copy?

Posted by: LizLem at November 11, 2016 05:57 PM (hvf9s)

508 I do too. I want her to be able to see Trump's inauguration.

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 05:56 PM (z/Ubi)
................

Maybe she'll give him a good price on some fireworks.

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2016 05:57 PM (2WITp)

509 >> Ace, did you not post an article about how you were
>> going to withdraw and play get along with the
>> Liberal fascists after the election?

That was clearly if Hillary won.
I was going to do the same. For self-preservation.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 11, 2016 05:57 PM (Om16U)

510

Here's 84 seconds of Joe Scarborough saying Things that we all know to be true. But it's him saying it. What do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC9QrRRK-UQ

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 11, 2016 05:57 PM (mBtaw)

511 Holy smokes! How did I miss this?

Wikileaks - DNC thanks Allahpundit (Josh Barro) for his hit pieces.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 11, 2016 05:57 PM (StZrq)

512 http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/countdown-with-keith-olbermann/n12348

Old but Gold.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 11, 2016 05:57 PM (VdICR)

513 >>>In 1941-1945 Americans did a lot of terrible things. But doing them was the only moral choice. Because the alternative was worse.

We never were worse than the Germans or the Japanese. Total war is fine, but there are still rules. You don't have to be worse than your opponent to win. War crimes tend to destroy morale and good order and discipline and lead to a less effective fighting force. So we don't have to be worse than the left to beat them. Nor do we want to. Leaders maintain that good order and discipline.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 11, 2016 05:57 PM (X/7Ld)

514 >> A CEO who fucks up like this may not be CEO for
>> long.

Their next shareholder meeting might be interesting.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 05:58 PM (TppKb)

515 Hopefully Trump will set back a lot of Leftist agenda, but there are serious issues with Social Security, health care, and government employee unfunded pentions from local to federal and thanks to Democrats giving away the house.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 05:58 PM (GH68B)

516 allah's opinion is like his asshole, or however that saying goes
Everyone has one?
Posted by: Hope Solo at November 11, 2016 05:19 PM (qA3QY)
=====
And most stink.
Posted by: Flyboy at November 11, 2016 05:30 PM (UD28m)

That's what Vick's Vapor Rub is for....let's you go all night and in the morning your sinuses are nice and clear.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 11, 2016 05:58 PM (ej1L0)

517 484 Breaking: New poll says Clinton margin shrinking to +3%...
Posted by: Crusader at November 11, 2016 05:53 PM (ewSN2)

+++

Every time I see these now I crack up. Oh, what a night.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 11, 2016 05:58 PM (CFc5L)

518 501 463 hILLRY Suicide Watch Day 3
Anybody see her today?
Gee, I hope she's OK.
Posted by: wth at November 11, 2016 05:47 PM (2WITp)

I do too. I want her to be able to see Trump's inauguration.

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 05:56 PM (z/Ubi)

Some lady walking in the woods in the area ran into Hillary and Bill out talking a walk. Bill took a picture of them and I gotta say it's probably the most authentic picture of Hillary I've seen in years. It looks like having the campaign over one way or the other is a huge load off.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 11, 2016 05:59 PM (4ErVI)

519 511 Holy smokes! How did I miss this?

Wikileaks - DNC thanks Allahpundit (Josh Barro) for his hit pieces.
------------------------------------------

What??!!! Is this for real? We've been lied to yet again by another leftie posing as a "conservative"? Damn.

Posted by: Boots at November 11, 2016 05:59 PM (EBwPV)

520 Is it okay to be #SometimesTrump? I'm still not the guy's biggest fan, but I can see that he's currently what we need.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at November 11, 2016 05:59 PM (kumBu)

521
Then they can pay them themselves.
Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 05:56 PM (TppKb)

Yeah that'll work

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 11, 2016 05:59 PM (lKyWE)

522 485
Anyone here that is one of those icky " gun- clingers" ( like me) , stay

alert for the reduced price ammo. In honor of President- Elect Donald

Trump.

Took a gun to local store yesterday. EMPTY. They were glad and sad Trump won. Looks like next week lots of sales on stock they bought for the Hillary "Run"

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 11, 2016 05:59 PM (NbJXF)

523 Every time I see these now I crack up. Oh, what a night.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 11, 2016 05:58 PM (CFc5L)
............

an instant classic

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2016 06:00 PM (2WITp)

524 Perhaps it has already been noted- Robert Vaughn, the Man from UNCLE, has passed.

Posted by: 2016 Takes It's Toll at November 11, 2016 06:00 PM (V+B19)

525

Not punish, not get payback, not vengeance, not "street justice.""

==========
That's lefty-speak.

What is needed is

Consequences.

In whatever form they may take. There's a difference.

You riot? Consequences.

You use government power to control others and encroach on their Constitutional rights? Consequences.

You evade taxes and accept foreign bribes to fund your campaign? Consequences.

Posted by: Mortimer, negative, dark, divisive and deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:00 PM (zu88C)

526
And most stink.

Most?

Do you know people who shit ice cream?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 11, 2016 06:00 PM (mBtaw)

527 But they are going to have to suffer like I suffered by having my insurance rates jump 200% in 3 years and my deductible climb 100% (all for a narrower network, thank you) in order to provide funds so that those leeches could have a health insurance card even as they continue to do what they always did and fill the emergency rooms whenever they feel a sniffle.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

I agree, but there isn't going to be a bill passed with one sentence saying "Affordable Care Act repeal effective immediately"

If I had my way, then yea, fuck these people and what they cost me in premiums, but there will be some sort of transition so insurance companies have time to come up with different plans and options and people can figure out what to sign up for instead.

And unfortunately, it's not going to be "pure" conservative, my guess is there will be some gubmint sweetners for the transition to go smoothly.

Again, the blame for this is on Obama and Democrats saddling us with such a horrible entitlement.

Still way better than what it was.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 06:01 PM (f4+HA)

528 Sally Kohn, fag with adopted kid, says her kid wants to know if Trump is as bad as Caesar.

WORSE!!! CAESAR WON'T THROW US IN THE CAMPS LIKE TRUMP WILL!!!
HIDE ME! HIDE ME!!!

Posted by: The Hysterical Sally Kohn at November 11, 2016 06:01 PM (qJhUV)

529 Some lady walking in the woods in the area ran into Hillary and Bill out talking a walk. Bill took a picture of them and I gotta say it's probably the most authentic picture of Hillary I've seen in years. It looks like having the campaign over one way or the other is a huge load off.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 11, 2016 05:59 PM (4ErVI)

That screams staged to me. What are the chances of a random woman just happening to run into a man and woman with SECRET SERVICE as their security?

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 06:01 PM (z/Ubi)

530 I'm going to go ahead, and not give AP the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: Chris M at November 11, 2016 06:02 PM (k3w9p)

531 Some lady walking in the woods in the area ran into Hillary and Bill out talking a walk. Bill took a picture of them and I gotta say it's probably the most authentic picture of Hillary I've seen in years. It looks like having the campaign over one way or the other is a huge load off.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 11, 2016 05:59 PM (4ErVI)
..............

Don't tell me... they were carrying shovels and their hands were all muddy.
Anybody seen Podesta? Huma?

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2016 06:02 PM (2WITp)

532 Do you know people who shit ice cream?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 11, 2016 06:00 PM (mBtaw)

I shit skittles

Posted by: Blackfoot Barry, dog eater at November 11, 2016 06:02 PM (NbJXF)

533 Sally Kohn, fag with adopted kid, says her kid wants to know if Trump is as bad as Caesar.

--

Caesar was bad?

And is this a dog whistle to the Senate and the Idea of March?

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 11, 2016 06:02 PM (Om16U)

534 The cat was ... mutilated..

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 11, 2016 06:02 PM (0F67M)

535 If her kid knows who Caesar was, then she is a pretty well read little kid.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 11, 2016 06:02 PM (92kX2)

536 "What??!!! Is this for real? We've been lied to yet again by another leftie posing as a "conservative"? Damn.

Posted by: Boots at November 11, 2016 05:59 PM (EBwPV) "

According to Wiki, Josh Barro is 32. There's no way AP is only 32.

(Only ace is allowed to be in the 28-32 age range for that long.)

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at November 11, 2016 06:03 PM (kumBu)

537 Breaking: New poll says Clinton margin shrinking to +3%...

Posted by: Crusader at November 11, 2016 05:53 PM (ewSN2)

---------------

If she takes New Hampshire this could be a short Tuesday night.

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:03 PM (cOHS7)

538
Sally Kohn, fag with adopted kid, says her kid wants to know if Trump is as bad as Caesar.

Didn't know Trump had a salad dressing.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 11, 2016 06:03 PM (lKyWE)

539 >>> Trump is now suggesting he might "amend" Obamacare rather than repeal and replace it.

Semantics?

If they go the repeal route they have to deal with a possibility of a Dem filibuster, which they will and it will be a huge thing the media plays up to gin more outrage at Trump.

If they go the reconciliation route they can get rid of enormous bits of it at a time with simple up and down votes the Dems can't filibuster. So it's repealing without the official "repealing."

Posted by: LizLem at November 11, 2016 06:03 PM (hvf9s)

540 This has all the drama (and substance) of a marital spat.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 11, 2016 06:03 PM (RcpcZ)

541 Some lady walking in the woods in the area ran into Hillary and Bill out talking a walk. Bill took a picture of them and I gotta say it's probably the most authentic picture of Hillary I've seen in years

"some lady" who turned out to be a Hillary campaign worker. Just totally random coincidence they met up! Hillary often goes in the woods taking a walk without Secret Service keeping everyone half a mile away.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 06:04 PM (39g3+)

542 >> Idea of March?

Need to watch that autocorrect there.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 06:04 PM (TppKb)

543
And here's a 2 minute clip that make you smile. Bigly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daIW7y2Q9Xo

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 11, 2016 06:04 PM (mBtaw)

544 Broward will come. *waves fingers*

Posted by: The Other H. at November 11, 2016 06:04 PM (0F67M)

545 AnalPundit, is he Hope Solo's boyfriend?

Posted by: gNewt at November 11, 2016 06:04 PM (zzUT1)

546 I don't want Hillary gone, I want her to pay for her crimes. I want everyone to see the most powerful person in the country in ruin.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:05 PM (GH68B)

547 Burying bodies in the woods already? That was quick.

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2016 06:05 PM (2WITp)

548 "some lady" who turned out to be a Hillary campaign worker. Just totally random coincidence they met up! Hillary often goes in the woods taking a walk without Secret Service keeping everyone half a mile away.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 06:04 PM (39g3+)

Hillary! always struck me as a lady who likes to hang out with normal people.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 11, 2016 06:05 PM (92kX2)

549 Some lady walking in the woods in the area ran into Hillary and Bill out talking a walk. Bill took a picture of them and I gotta say it's probably the most authentic picture of Hillary I've seen in years. It looks like having the campaign over one way or the other is a huge load off.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 11, 2016 05:59 PM (4ErVI)

The "lady" is actually a Dem operative who was part of her campaign. Everything about Hillary is fake.

Posted by: Votermom the Deplorable @vm on Gab.ai at November 11, 2016 06:05 PM (Om16U)

550 >> If they go the reconciliation route they can get rid of
>> enormous bits of it at a time with simple up and
>> down votes the Dems can't filibuster. So it's
>> repealing without the official "repealing."

I like the nibble approach. First you get rid of contraceptive coverage and open up the program to catastrophic/chronic coverage plans...

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 06:05 PM (TppKb)

551 Wikileaks - DNC thanks Allahpundit (Josh Barro) for his hit pieces.

Here is the link. Remove the space before "wikileaks".

https://www.hotgas.net/2016/08/ wikileaks-dnc-email-exchange-allahpundit-josh-barro/

Posted by: cool breeze at November 11, 2016 06:05 PM (StZrq)

552
Only ace is allowed to be in the 28-32 age range for that long.

====

Squats, bro. Squats.

Posted by: Mortimer, negative, dark, divisive and deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:05 PM (zu88C)

553 Didn't know Trump had a salad dressing.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 11, 2016 06:03 PM (lKyWE)

It's what goes in his taco salads.

Posted by: Pug Mahon of the Clan Deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:06 PM (RwwCT)

554
WZ has eight year old tweets by their lying moms? Sally Kohn, fag with adopted kid, says her kid wants to know if Trump is as bad as Caesar.

Trump doesn't whisper to dogs. He yells at them.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 11, 2016 06:06 PM (IqV8l)

555 Semantics?

If they go the repeal route they have to deal with a possibility of a Dem filibuster, which they will and it will be a huge thing the media plays up to gin more outrage at Trump.

If they go the reconciliation route they can get rid of enormous bits of it at a time with simple up and down votes the Dems can't filibuster. So it's repealing without the official "repealing."
Posted by: LizLem

I'm not a parlimentarian expert, but if it can be passed with under 60 votes, it should be able to be repealed by less than 60 votes.

Also, doesn't the Executive Branch have the right to offer "waivers" to anyone?

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 06:06 PM (f4+HA)

556 472 @Christopher R Taylor

ProTip: 'True reality' doesn't give a damn about your reality / opinion.

I guess she didn't have a wise Uncle Jack to school her.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2016 06:06 PM (ry4ab)

557 Breaking: New poll says Clinton margin shrinking to +3%...

Posted by: Crusader at November 11, 2016 05:53 PM (ewSN2)

---------------

If she takes New Hampshire this could be a short Tuesday night.

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:03 PM (cOHS7)
............

Well, John we can give her California, right?

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at November 11, 2016 06:06 PM (2WITp)

558 remember, principled conservatives always tip over and show their bellies to the liberal. what are you racist?

Posted by: jihadi at November 11, 2016 06:06 PM (I64i9)

559 @507

New link. Till they take it down.
Its sickening.

http://tinyurl.com/zoolnuf

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 06:06 PM (5Z34V)

560 "Didn't know Trump had a salad dressing.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 11, 2016 06:03 PM (lKyWE) "

Well, if you mix some Trump Wine with a bit of beef tallow from a Trump Steak, you get a nice little marinade.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at November 11, 2016 06:07 PM (kumBu)

561 Ok, I'm bored with being black. From now on, I am Napoleon Bonaparte.

Posted by: Rachel Dolezal at November 11, 2016 06:07 PM (OkKDg)

562 @470: "The ONLY way to respond to a bully is to treat the bully the way he treats others."

Proportional use of force never solves much. Overwhelming use of force is what is necessary. The goal of force is ultimately to break the opponent's will to keep fighting.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at November 11, 2016 06:07 PM (rznWS)

563 "some lady" who turned out to be a Hillary campaign worker."

Why did I know this as soon as I saw the picture.

She (and he) can't stop.

God, did we just dodge a bullet.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 11, 2016 06:07 PM (SIY7D)

564

What??!!! Is this for real? We've been lied to yet again by another leftie posing as a "conservative"? Damn.

Posted by: Boots at November 11, 2016 05:59 PM (EBwPV)

I doubt it. AP is wordy but he can do a good analysis. Unless he's dumbing it down for BW and twitter.

Posted by: El Skippito Friskito at November 11, 2016 06:08 PM (kZVsz)

565 We never were worse than the Germans or the Japanese. Total war is fine, but there are still rules. You don't have to be worse than your opponent to win. War crimes tend to destroy morale and good order and discipline and lead to a less effective fighting force. So we don't have to be worse than the left to beat them. Nor do we want to. Leaders maintain that good order and discipline.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy

Whole cities bombed to rubble. People burned alive with incendiary raids. Death on an industrial scale. Men, women children. Soldiers, civilians, everybody.

The difference was in the goals. The Fascists of Germany and Japan wanted to impose a world-wide tyranny of terror and brutality the likes of which no one had ever seen. The problematical and "deplorable" to those regimes would die in concentration camps.

The Allies sought to restore world order and freedom (well, not the Soviets, but that is another story). Yes, we used a lot of terrible tactics. Firebombing major cities in Japan, and then finally nukes.

War is terrible. We fought to end war and restore the peace.

That is the difference.

Almighty and most merciful Father, we humbly beseech Thee, of Thy great goodness, to restrain these immoderate rains with which we have had to contend. Grant us fair weather for Battle. Graciously hearken to us as soldiers who call upon Thee that, armed with Thy power, we may advance from victory to victory, and crush the oppression and wickedness of our enemies and establish Thy justice among men and nations.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at November 11, 2016 06:08 PM (RFeQD)

566 In a perfect world, I would agree with the idea of live and let live. Run your business as you see fit, hire who you want, associate with whom you are most comfortable, etc.

We don't live in a perfect world.

Ace, you post is spot on, the rules of lawlessness need to apply equally or not at all.

I also wouldn't frame it as deference or defiance, I'd call it pacifism or defense.

An awful lot of folks on the left (mostly millennials) have never been punched in the face. They need to be merely to find out what it feels like.
It is easy to dish it out, which is what they've been doing with impunity for a generation. It is much tougher to take it, especially if it is understood that "their" rules allow it.
In fact, encourage it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 11, 2016 06:08 PM (kKHcp)

567 Burying bodies in the woods already? That was quick.

Podesta? Was it Podesta? I'll bet it was Podesta!

Posted by: tu3031 at November 11, 2016 06:08 PM (qJhUV)

568 >> Yeah that'll work

"Angela, here's the deal. Does the US market matter more to you, or the Iranians? 'Cause tomorrow morning we're gonna put a tariff on German imports to cover the trade you're doing with Iran."

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 06:08 PM (TppKb)

569 I don't want Hillary gone, I want her to pay for her crimes. I want everyone to see the most powerful person in the country in ruin.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:05 PM (GH68B)
............

That would be like the icing on the cake smeared on the cake girl's nipples.

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2016 06:09 PM (2WITp)

570

What if I *identify* as a blind person and take the blind person's tax deduction?

Who is anybody to say I have sight? I choose not to use or acknowledge my ~~penis~~ eyes.

Serious.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 11, 2016 06:09 PM (mBtaw)

571 >> Podesta? Was it Podesta? I'll bet it was Podesta

Anybody seen Tony The Dick lately?

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 06:09 PM (TppKb)

572 Not one impromptu meeting with Hillary this whole campaign was legit.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:09 PM (GH68B)

573 Oh sweet Jesus.. I'm late but damn Christy... you have a way with words!!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at November 11, 2016 06:09 PM (CNHr1)

574 Bossy Conservative I get your point about the horrors of war, but we were not nearly as horrific as the Japanese and Nazis. Not even close. Both sides did terrible things fighting and killing, but then they added mountains of more evil on top of that, not even counting the death camps.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 06:10 PM (39g3+)

575 @493: "Shrinking the size and power of the government is a prescription to losing the country? Seriously?"

In America as envisioned by most of the Founders, no. In America as currently constituted? Absolutely. Just try to eliminate Social Security, Unemployment, Veteran's Benefits, etc., and watch how many people howl, for example.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at November 11, 2016 06:11 PM (rznWS)

576
If she takes New Hampshire this could be a short Tuesday night.
Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:03 PM (cOHS7)

+++

Laughed again. Told you. I must be some moron for realz.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 11, 2016 06:11 PM (CFc5L)

577 @Maritime

Yep. There was some gouging going on. Glad I didn't panic buy...helps that I have a modest stack already.

I used to buy a lot from ammoman but seeing them jack up prices, only to drop them now has put them in my 'don't bother' column. Might go with SGammo instead, they've been pretty good.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 11, 2016 06:11 PM (UHLlC)

578 Wikileaks - DNC thanks Allahpundit (Josh Barro) for his hit pieces.
Here is the link. Remove the space before "wikileaks".
https://www.hotgas.net/2016/08/ wikileaks-dnc-email-exchange-allahpundit-josh-barro/

Posted by: cool breeze at November 11, 2016 06:05 PM (StZrq)

Whoa! Would like to see ace flaming-skull this one.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at November 11, 2016 06:12 PM (+l+7Y)

579 Josh Barro is too young to be Allahpundit.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 11, 2016 06:12 PM (4e+hS)

580 New link. Till they take it down.
Its sickening.

http://tinyurl.com/zoolnuf
Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 06:06 PM (5Z34V)

Oh dear Lord, that poor kid.

Posted by: Pug Mahon of the Clan Deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:12 PM (RwwCT)

581 567 Burying bodies in the woods already? That was quick.

Podesta? Was it Podesta? I'll bet it was Podesta!
Posted by: tu3031 at November 11, 2016 06:08 PM (qJhUV)

+++

How effin funny!

Posted by: washrivergal at November 11, 2016 06:12 PM (CFc5L)

582 Re: Obamacare

The (D)s are probably fairly happy Trump won for that aspect. Anything that happens now they can blame on him, even though he's only responding to the events they set in motion.

It's like listening to Trayvon's family complaining about his death. Yes, sorry he decided to attack someone that had a firearm, ma'am. Please stop blaming the guy who responded to his actions.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at November 11, 2016 06:12 PM (x4zgf)

583 I'm not a parlimentarian expert, but if it can be passed with under 60 votes, it should be able to be repealed by less than 60 votes.

-------------------------------------------------

I thought they did end up passing it through reconciliation with less than 60 votes because Ted Kennedy was called back to hades for eternity and that 60th vote went with him.

So those weasels pushed it through with reconciliation because Scott Brown won the special election in MA, and had promised to stop the thing.

Seems to me it's like Executive Orders, there's nothing more permanent about them than the paper they're written on.

Posted by: Boots at November 11, 2016 06:13 PM (EBwPV)

584

Posted by: FITP at November 11, 2016 06:13 PM (j0Q8n)

585 Its sickening.
http://tinyurl.com/zoolnuf
Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 06:06 PM (5Z34V)

That poor boy!! Straight up child abuse. What loving parent does this kind of mental anguish kabuki on a child?

If this boy had come out as gay and he mom did this, the left would be CRUCIFYING her right now.

Posted by: LizLem at November 11, 2016 06:14 PM (hvf9s)

586 AP and Ed are summed up well in the comments. AP in particular is nothing more than an irritating, divisive troll...and Ed is his momma. They serve no purpose, support NOTHING but simply look for cracks and then exploit. You finish one of AP's posts and wonder what was the point except everything and everybody sux.
I too dropped them from my daily reads...not going back.

Posted by: wewon at November 11, 2016 06:14 PM (7GtJm)

587 As part of getting rid of Obamacare, would the following work:

Let people buy catastrophic coverage sold across state lines, while also allowing tax-deductible personal health care savings accounts.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 11, 2016 06:14 PM (SIY7D)

588 Why does Sally Kohn think Caeser was bad? He was a great and noble leader. I should know. I am Julius Caeser.

L'etat, c'est moi.

Posted by: Rachel Dolezal at November 11, 2016 06:14 PM (OkKDg)

589 493
This is a prescription to lose the country.

Shrinking the size and power of the government is a prescription to losing the country? Seriously?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 05:54 PM (39g3+

---------------------------

concern troll trolls. Read what i wrote before and don't frame it up like a leftist.

Yeah. If you don't win you don't get to what you want. We lose, the Obama years happen. Not too hard to understand.

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:14 PM (cOHS7)

590 Where is Hillary? She ravaging the bulge of Carlos Danger.

Posted by: R. DUKE at November 11, 2016 06:14 PM (ONH2e)

591
It's like listening to Trayvon's family complaining about his death. Yes, sorry he decided to attack someone that had a firearm, ma'am. Please stop blaming the guy who responded to his actions.
Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at November 11, 2016 06:12 PM (x4zgf)

Not to mention the only reason he was at his fathers house is because she got sick and tired of him.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 11, 2016 06:15 PM (lKyWE)

592 Who are these 'Veterans'?

http://tinyurl.com/jhlentx

Posted by: Joy and Pain at November 11, 2016 06:15 PM (ahx2/)

593
Yep. There was some gouging going on. Glad I didn't panic buy...helps that I have a modest stack already.

I used to buy a lot from ammoman but seeing them jack up prices, only to drop them now has put them in my 'don't bother' column. Might go with SGammo instead, they've been pretty good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Yea, I had a brick of 22 ammo from the like the early 2000s, and I want to say it was like $12 on the price tag.

Now that same brick would be like $40-$50.

The price of lead and brass are not up that much to make the difference, may like $1-$2 more in commodity costs over 10 years for that brick of ammo.

These companies were making big money of the "scarcity" and I see the prices coming back down rapidly.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 06:15 PM (f4+HA)

594 588 Why does Sally Kohn think Caeser was bad? He was a great and noble leader. I should know. I am Julius Caeser.

L'etat, c'est moi.
Posted by: Rachel Dolezal at November 11, 2016 06:14 PM (OkKDg)

Sorry lady, the Rubicon is not a sandwich.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 11, 2016 06:15 PM (92kX2)

595 Just read the post, but not the comments yet. Just wanna say:

*APPLAUSE!*

Posted by: Farmer Joe at November 11, 2016 06:15 PM (Ztfnl)

596 New link. Till they take it down.
Its sickening.

I think its wrong to hit a woman but I'd knock that bitch the hell down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 06:15 PM (39g3+)

597 I was only disappointed on Election night that while I maintained Trump would win Pennsylvania thoughg he would win the Philadelphia surrounding counties. Urban populations in this country vote overwhelming Democrat and am sure now urban sprawl does the same.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:15 PM (GH68B)

598 I can imagine this being the entertainment at one of Pedosta's spirit cooking events and him and Huma cackling wildly at their success in social engineering.

God help us all.
Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2016 04:37 PM (jkmtt)

Oh, I don't think they are cackling very much right now. Their Spirit Cooking now contains their own bitter tears.

Who would want to hire them now? They are both a big part of the reason Clinton wouldn't be shopping for a diamond encrusted pantsuit to wear to the Inaugural Ball. They'll forever have the stench of a failed campaign around them.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 11, 2016 06:15 PM (P8951)

599 I'ms drinking 34/7 bitches.

Posted by: Hillary!?! at November 11, 2016 06:16 PM (4e+hS)

600 Some lady walking in the woods in the area ran into Hillary and Bill out talking a walk. Bill took a picture of them and I gotta say it's probably the most authentic picture of Hillary I've seen in years. It looks like having the campaign over one way or the other is a huge load off.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 11, 2016 05:59 PM (4ErVI)
Not authentic, she knew the woman well and it was staged

Posted by: Cn at November 11, 2016 06:16 PM (wczgi)

601 >> Sorry lady, the Rubicon is not a sandwich.

Of course not. It's a Jeep.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 06:16 PM (TppKb)

602 Simple example: chemical warfare is funny until the return volley.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2016 06:16 PM (usi7i)

603 concern troll trolls

You are a profoundly unserious person.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 06:16 PM (39g3+)

604 All I can say is (pardon ladies and easily put upon)

Fuck Yeah! What Ace said.

I refuse to allow you to make me a second class citizen because of some imaginary slight you think you have been the victim of.

You WILL NOT take away my f'ng rights because you think the mean old world has grabbed you by the pussy.

Posted by: FITP at November 11, 2016 06:16 PM (j0Q8n)

605 I live the rhetorical argument the chic on Kurt's thread is making. File them under arguments my five year old makes.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2016 06:17 PM (usi7i)

606 >>Whoa! Would like to see ace flaming-skull this one.

There is nothing in the wikileaks release that says that Josh Barro is Allahpundit, best I can tell that's just a claim of the Hotgas people who hate Hot Air for going facebook and it's not exactly a surprise that Josh Braro criticizes Republicans. That's his career. He's on MSNBC all the time playing the Andrew Sullivan role.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 06:17 PM (/tuJf)

607 Sorry lady, the Rubicon is not a sandwich.

stolen

Posted by: eleven at November 11, 2016 06:18 PM (qUNWi)

608 603
concern troll trolls

You are a profoundly unserious person.
-------

So the serious person has gone to insults?

Again, do you not understand that if you lose, you live under the victor's rules....and boot.

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:18 PM (cOHS7)

609 Yes, I mean why would anyone ever want to respond in kind? Especially when that tactic elicits no response and has a neutering effect.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2016 06:18 PM (usi7i)

610 25 I saw this over at Weasel zippers
The video shows what many are calling child abuse (psychological, but just as damaging).

I wish I could shove it in Van Jone's face.
Its very disturbing. I watched it once, and cannot watch it again. I got way too angry. I link it here again, though because I think it needs to be seen. It makes a great follow on the video Ace linked to Jonathan Pie.

Trigger? Whatever. it will piss you off. As it should piss off everyone.
http://tinyurl.com/jyc3t7k
Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 04:31 PM (5Z34V)

***************

It's child abuse.

That kid is smart enough--if he watches TV--to realize that he might get beat up by TOTAL STRANGERS for having a Trump sign.

Hell--he knows how nutz it makes his own "mother".

Someone should get this to Melania Trump--she said bullying of children was her number one priority.

Let's see which lady responds FIRST--

Melania or Michelle.

Posted by: Homes at November 11, 2016 06:19 PM (fi5nC)

611 >> Whoa! Would like to see ace flaming-skull this one.

You elect a President who (you pray) will drive the enemies before him and send a few of the cuter women to us for lamentations (the kind that involve baby oil), that's a flaming skull.

You find out a generic debatably-conservative pundit's playing the other side of the field, that's a yawn.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 06:19 PM (TppKb)

612 Let people buy catastrophic coverage sold across state lines, while also allowing tax-deductible personal health care savings accounts.

Posted by: Ignoramus

The plan our company has already offers Health savings accounts as an option. I don't think OBamacare outlaws them, but frankly they are not that popular with a lot of people, if you have a plan where your employer pays a lot of the monthly premium.

Of course, a lot of people are in a bad situation, and are not as fortunate as I might be.

ACA (Obamacare) is a mess and was planned that way (preaching to the choir). But it will have to be fixed stepwise to unravel all the mess and give people and insurance companies an interval to adjust and rejigger the devastation that has been caused by Obama and the Democrats.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at November 11, 2016 06:19 PM (RFeQD)

613 If they go the repeal route they have to deal with a possibility of a Dem filibuster, which they will and it will be a huge thing the media plays up to gin more outrage at Trump.

If they go the reconciliation route they can get rid of enormous bits of it at a time with simple up and down votes the Dems can't filibuster. So it's repealing without the official "repealing."

Posted by: LizLem at November 11, 2016 06:03 PM (hvf9s)

They're talking about the kids on it until 26 and the pre-existing conditions.

You can't get rid of those without 60 votes.

FORTUNATELY, you can use reconciliation to get rid of the mandate and the job killing shit with the full time is now 30 hours stuff.

Canning those last two is a big fucking deal.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 11, 2016 06:19 PM (4ErVI)

614
These companies were making big money of the "scarcity" and I see the prices coming back down rapidly.
Posted by: Maritime

What would prices be doing if Hillary had won?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 11, 2016 06:20 PM (IqV8l)

615 Making people eat shit sandwiches is great until you get a taste yourself.

Hello is this thing on?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2016 06:20 PM (usi7i)

616 I refuse to allow you to make me a second class citizen because of some imaginary slight you think you have been the victim of.

Exactly, fight for liberty, fight for justice, fight for less government and take away the power they used against you. Don't use it yourself, or nothing is gained but a sense of satisfaction. If its wrong for them to do its wrong for us to do as well.

There's a better way, and I hope the Trump administration takes it and gives us a freer, better nation as a result rather than being bogged down in payback.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 06:20 PM (39g3+)

617 I have been told by my Marine NCO spouse that i am the most defiant being he has ever encountered, including all the Teens, puppies, dogs and various cats hes trained. Yup worse than a cat. Thats me.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at November 11, 2016 06:20 PM (YhV5r)

618 I foolishly watched that video of that evil bitch abusing her kid. I can't wait until he grows up and murders her.

Posted by: UGAdawg at November 11, 2016 06:21 PM (HL3BI)

619 What would prices be doing if Hillary had won?

--------------

That's why you couldn't find ammo the last few weeks, or 80%ers, or .......

Posted by: Jukin,The Deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:21 PM (cOHS7)

620 Sorry lady, the Rubicon is not a sandwich.

stolen
Posted by: eleven

The Rubicon? Isn't that guy the Senator from Florida?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at November 11, 2016 06:22 PM (RFeQD)

621 look i do care about the underdog, but your oppression is no reason for me to let you crush me underfoot. i reserve the right not to cooperate with my own destruction. And if i can make you sorry for trying i will.

That way, you'll learn.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at November 11, 2016 06:22 PM (YhV5r)

622 617 I have been told by my Marine NCO spouse that i am the most defiant being he has ever encountered, including all the Teens, puppies, dogs and various cats hes trained. Yup worse than a cat. Thats me.
Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at November 11, 2016 06:20 PM (YhV5r)

So I'm guessing he had to put the chicken in the smoker himself.

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 06:22 PM (z/Ubi)

623 My only burning question on a Friday is whose cans were those dipped in chocolate pudding?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 11, 2016 06:23 PM (usi7i)

624 >> Yup worse than a cat. Thats me.

In other words, I'm now desperately in love with you.

Alas, he's probably better-trained (or at least more practiced) in hand-to-hand combat than I am.

So, I don't know you.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 06:23 PM (TppKb)

625 I never comment here, but I regularly visit this site.

I 100% agree with Ace. Bullies only understand one language and AP's squishy approach won't cut it. I'm done being a verbal punching bag for the crybaby fascistic left.

I'm not saying we become them, but if they hit us, we bury them.

Posted by: TexGal at November 11, 2016 06:23 PM (qs0iF)

626
Tonight's drive home song is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOl4oeHZnBk

(You Sexy Thing or....the I Believe In Miracles song)

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 11, 2016 06:23 PM (mBtaw)

627 The most important things to repeal in OCare are Community Rating and Must Issue. If you have either of those, you have to have a mandate because it's no longer insurance.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 11, 2016 06:23 PM (0F67M)

628

NOUS DEFIONS!

Posted by: In Vino Veritas at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (Mt8T4)

629 585 Its sickening.
http://tinyurl.com/zoolnuf
Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 06:06 PM (5Z34V)

That poor boy!! Straight up child abuse. What loving parent does this kind of mental anguish kabuki on a child?

If this boy had come out as gay and he mom did this, the left would be CRUCIFYING her right now.
Posted by: LizLem at November 11, 2016 06:14 PM (hvf9s)

************************

Na--weirdly--the Facebook comments--left and right--are running mostly anti--this "mother".

Not the way you want to unify the country but--it's getting condemned roundly.

Obama and Trump should visit that kid--together.

Ya--probably one of them wouldn't do that--ugh.

Posted by: Homes at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (fi5nC)

630 These companies were making big money of the "scarcity" and I see the prices coming back down rapidly.
Posted by: Maritime

What would prices be doing if Hillary had won?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

I think ammo and arms manufacturers would jack up prices and push the "scarcity" argument.

Just because I "like" gun manufacturers and am a gun nut, I would be naive to pretend they aren't like any other business and want to maximize profits and take advantage of situations they are given.

Trump winning will be bad for the bottom line of these companies short term, but long term, will be good for everyone that loves the 2nd Amendment.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (f4+HA)

631 This site also posted a picture from CPAC, identifying it as "Allahpundit of Hot Air" and it is clearly Josh Barro.

http://lidblog.com/meet-cpac-bloggers-part-2-including-new/

Wikipedia entry on Josh Barro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Barro

"On October 11, 2016, Barro said he had re-registered as a Democrat in protest against Donald Trump, describing the Republican party as a "party that's trying to destroy the republic."

Posted by: cool breeze at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (StZrq)

632 What would prices be doing if Hillary had won?

Skyrocketing. She had already said she was coming after guns with EO's.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (Yu4ah)

633 Everyone who can grab that video using keepvid and keep it alive. Don't let people forget who we are competing against for our nation.

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (x4zgf)

634 My company's health insurance plan lowered the HSA yearly tax free max from 6K to 2.5K.
They said it was due to B.O. Care.

Posted by: wth at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (2WITp)

635 586 AP and Ed are summed up well in the comments. AP in particular is nothing more than an irritating, divisive troll"

I did not visit Tepid Air much but I remember a while back I did and Allah had a post up about an anti-religion campaign going on in London. Some militant atheist group was putting posters mocking all religious faith on the sides of buses over there and Allah's comment was "Excellent!"

And of course the people in the comments section were outraged, as he intended them to be. I thought "how rude and contemptuous of his own readers he is." Ace is an atheist/agnostic also but he has never, as far as I know, mocked 'rons and 'ettes who believe. Allah is just another sneering Bill Maher type.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (P8951)

636 >> The Rubicon? Isn't that guy the Senator from
>> Florida?

It's a trail up by Lake Tahoe that all the 4x4 guys drive, and it's a Jeep named for the trail.

Posted by: JEM at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (TppKb)

637 Analpundit has been playing some passive-aggressive NeverTrump game for months. Every day he would scour the internet for polls showing Trump losing and post them at Hot Air.

Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (5fSr7)

638 Yay! Finally made it to Houston! Half mile from destination.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (Yu4ah)

639 Sally Kohn, fag with adopted kid, says her kid wants to know if Trump is as bad as Caesar.

What did Caesar do that was supposed to be so bad? He turned Rome into an Empire, sure, but he never went crazy as emperor. He never really got the chance, though that would not have been his style, anyway.

I think Sally Kohn is mixing up her Roman Emperors ... and then putting the blame on her adopted kid.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (zc3Db)

640 >>>Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at November 11, 2016 06:08 PM (RFeQD)

The American soldier never sank to the depths of the acts of German or Japanese soldiers. Yet we still won.

As far as incendiary bombing, it was a failed tactic based on Douhet (fascist), and at least for the RAF, probably did involve a certain sense of payback. Maybe for us in the Pacific as well at that point. But the zoomies don't have to deal with the issues ground troops do, and it still wasn't very effective overall.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at November 11, 2016 06:25 PM (X/7Ld)

641 "They're talking about the kids on it until 26 and the pre-existing conditions."

I don't see how you can have anything close to market insurance while allowing pre-existing conditions. If you analogize to auto insurance, into which risk pool do you put the guy who totals 12 cars a year?

Obamacare puts him into the pool that's mostly self-employed people.

Were it me, I'd put him in the pool that covers Congresscritters and make them pay out of their pocket for the overage.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 11, 2016 06:25 PM (SIY7D)

642 She's already been reported to the Texas child protective services--supposedly.

Posted by: Homes at November 11, 2016 06:25 PM (fi5nC)

643 The most important things to repeal in OCare are Community Rating and Must Issue. If you have either of those, you have to have a mandate because it's no longer insurance.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

Exactly. You are not a free man or woman if the government can tell you what YOU MUST DO!!

Not what you cannot do. It is the Democrat political ideal going back to FDR of POSITIVE RIGHTS, compelled by government.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at November 11, 2016 06:25 PM (RFeQD)

644 I found a conservative blooger who posted a picture of Allahpundit 6 years ago. If that is him, he is not Josh Barro.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2016 06:25 PM (aZq03)

645 "I can't wait until he grows up and murders her.

Posted by: UGAdawg at November 11, 2016 06:21 PM (HL3BI) "

A boy's best friend is his mother.

Posted by: Norman Bates at November 11, 2016 06:26 PM (kumBu)

646 On that video of the crazy mom yelling at her little boy, how exactly did this get posted? Did she actually think the viewers would be on her side, and post it herself?

Posted by: Chris M at November 11, 2016 06:26 PM (k3w9p)

647 512 @BourbonChicken

Color me... unsurprised.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2016 06:27 PM (ry4ab)

648
Trump
Trump
Trump

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!

Posted by: origional Jake at November 11, 2016 06:27 PM (yEME9)

649 That video. I don't even know what to say.

Kind of took away my urge to gloat. That poor little boy. What a freaking monster of a mother. Fuck these people politicizing little kids, sideways, etc. Teachers too. How the hell do you stop this?

And what do you do about the adult woman who thinks posting this online is a great idea? Jesus Christ.

I have been thinking about the Trumphausen Syndrome by Proxy discussion yesterday....a lot. The mentally ill and emotionallly immature screaming garbage babies latching onto politics is the last freaking thing anyone needs.

Posted by: Goldilocks at November 11, 2016 06:27 PM (pOgVG)

650 Posted by: cool breeze at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (StZrq)

The pic you're referring to on lidblog is just a white wall with a half white sleeve on the left margin?

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2016 06:27 PM (jkmtt)

651 In regard to Jesus' turn-the-other-cheek ethic. I ran out of cheeks to turn years ago. I will tolerate the BS no longer.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at November 11, 2016 06:27 PM (kI9U5)

652 There's a better way, and I hope the Trump administration takes it and
gives us a freer, better nation as a result rather than being bogged
down in payback.Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I haven't sought out anyone for payback, but I can tell you this....if my employer intimidates me based upon who I voted for, there WILL be hell to pay.

Just as, if someone is trying to kick my ass because I happen to be white and they make the assumption that I voted for Trump because I hate them....I WILL shoot that mother fucker.

You don't get to fuck with ME because YOU didn't get your way.

I swear I am amazed at the infantilization of the people in this country.

Posted by: FITP at November 11, 2016 06:27 PM (j0Q8n)

653 >>This site also posted a picture from CPAC, identifying it as "Allahpundit of Hot Air" and it is clearly Josh Barro.

It's pretty clearly a picture of a wall without a person.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2016 06:27 PM (/tuJf)

654 ace would be able to tell you who allahpundit is since they saw Brokeback Mountain together. Of course I think they had the homo seat between them.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 11, 2016 06:28 PM (IDPbH)

655 See, here's the thing. I'm lost cold on Trumpers and on all the other epithets for Trump supporters. The Trump phenomenon is insurgency against the party for their abject failure at representing. And now it's got down to the same haughty snobbish diminutions that are at the core of the insurgency so I'm never in any kind of mood to be lectured about conservative inconsistencies, never open to tautology about who and what we are, or should be, about conservative values.. Simply not open. I realize you do have a word for that too; epistemic closure. I got it. And boy, do I have it hard. Now, shut up and learn the lesson delivered you. That is my new attitude and it's not going to change.

Posted by: bour3 at November 11, 2016 06:28 PM (cyVTQ)

656 I genuinely do believe AllahPundit is someone that's playing a game of pretend Conservative and trolling behind "enemy" lines.

Even before Trump, it seemed clear to me that he was not a conservative agent acting in good faith.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 06:29 PM (f4+HA)

657 528 Sally Kohn, fag with adopted kid, says her kid wants to know if Trump is as bad as Caesar.

WORSE!!! CAESAR WON'T THROW US IN THE CAMPS LIKE TRUMP WILL!!!
HIDE ME! HIDE ME!!!
Posted by: The Hysterical Sally Kohn at November 11, 2016 06:01 PM (qJhUV)

He could make a mean salad, though.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 11, 2016 06:30 PM (X2m/e)

658 My thing is you should destroy the ability of ANYONE to destroy their enemies with the political levers of the state- and find a way to make it stick. If you cannot, then we do not live in a democracy, but rather a Banana republic where the spoils are distributed by whichever strongman is in power.

The problem with this is that what Breitbart said is true: politics is downstream of culture. I fear we do not really live in a country with a social contract between the citizenry. If we hold off on using the levers of the state to try to permanently destroy the ability of democrats to be able to use the state against us, then I think we can all agree they will simply go right back to weaponizing every agency as soon as they retake power (which will happen, these things are cyclical.)

Solutions? I can only see a couple and they are not really palatable. I hope someone else can find a better way I am not thinking of.

I make no bones about liking Trump, but at least the man seems to value ability over loyalty. We'll see what happens.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 11, 2016 06:30 PM (92kX2)

659 And of course the people in the comments section were outraged, as he intended them to be. I thought "how rude and contemptuous of his own readers he is." Ace is an atheist/agnostic also but he has never, as far as I know, mocked 'rons and 'ettes who believe. Allah is just another sneering Bill Maher type.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 11, 2016 06:24 PM (P8951)

======

He did/does that shit all the time to jack up the site hit count.

Posted by: Flyboy at November 11, 2016 06:30 PM (UD28m)

660 Politcs follows culture. Culture follows money.

I have never figured out why conservatives are too feckless to punish lefty businesses. Progressives are perhaps 20% of the country. Conservatives are more like 40-50%. All the d*ckheads who are still using FartBook are contributing to the political enemy. Same with Twitter, Netflix, Hollywood movies in general, NFL, etc. Just imagine a national figure calling for a one month moratorium on going to movies. Or, a groundswell movement to cancel Netflix. Or to stop buying through Amazon. FaceBookAppleNetflixGoogle stocks are ridiculously overvalued. In the case of FN&G they are all about advertising revenue. Losing half of their user base would destroy the little prick Zuckerberg. He might even have to move back in with his parents.

WTF? A serious movement could destroy the revenue source of many of our worst enemies. It would NOT take much of a loss of business at the margins to take them down. And we are at least twice the size of the left. And we could ensure that their efforts to retaliate against conservative businesses would fail (see Chick-Fil-A). Time to cut off their oxygen,

Posted by: Lawrence Larson at November 11, 2016 06:30 PM (d/r2I)

661 The Rubicon? Isn't that guy the Senator from
Florida?

Sounds like a gay bar.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 11, 2016 06:30 PM (qJhUV)

662 "Turning the other cheek" was not about allowing someone to beat the crap out of you.

Jesus was talking to the poor, of course. In relations between masters & servants, Roman & Jew a right backhand would be the way a poor person would be hit. By turning their left cheek to their "better" the "better" would have to hit them in a way that would make them equals. It was a form of resistance. It's much more radical and subversive than people realize.

The same goes for "and if someone takes you cloak, give him your tunic too." Masters and Romans were allowed to take your cloak, but not your tunic. By offering the tunic as well you were shaming them.

It's a much more powerful and inspiring than "let someone beat on you."

Posted by: CraftD at November 11, 2016 06:30 PM (PtLDk)

663 I found a conservative blooger who posted a picture of Allahpundit 6 years ago. If that is him, he is not Josh Barro.
Posted by: 18-1

Post the link and share the name if you don't mind.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 06:30 PM (f4+HA)

664 Ken Blackwell... anyone know anything about him? Trump tapped him to help with transition on domestic issues? Just heard from my son. Any info?

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at November 11, 2016 06:31 PM (CNHr1)

665 If this asshole can boycott his Trumpian employees, then I can damn-sure boycott his business.

That's pretty much my position as well. In fact, I've said before that anti-discrimination laws go too far when they dictate how a business owner must run his business. I think a business owner should be able to hire and/or serve who he or she pleases.

And of course, customers have the right to take that into account when choosing which businesses to patronize. Let the free market sort it out.

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:31 PM (sdi6R)

666 And Allhapundit, you're damn right it's payback time ! Time for these insuffarble asshats to get what they dished out.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at November 11, 2016 06:31 PM (1aDmL)

667 I'm very excited about Pence replacing Christie picking personnel. With Pence talking in one of Trump's ears, and Jeff Sessions in the other, we might end up with a much more conservative executive than I ever expected from a Northeastern Liberal Republican.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 11, 2016 06:31 PM (0F67M)

668 You were right. NT gonna NT, even to the extreme of defending bad behavior by an idiot like this grub hub schmuck. Are the NT guys also repeating the crap that MI and WI voters went for Trump because they're all racists, not because NAFTA killed their jobs? Can't accept that their precious globalism has been a failure for everybody but D.C. & Wall Street?

Posted by: Bernette at November 11, 2016 06:31 PM (Hv133)

669 No Sally but Hillary as President would have made USA into Caligula's Rome.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:32 PM (GH68B)

670 Not only should the gloves come off, but the brass knuckles should be put on.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at November 11, 2016 06:32 PM (1aDmL)

671 So I'm guessing he had to put the chicken in the smoker himself.

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2016 06:22 PM (z/Ubi)

and season it, too. As if I even COULD, since he never let me before, and has his own way he likes to do it!
BTW he had THURDS of what i made, last night and nearly foundered himself on that hot dish (thank you luterans from my distant past) Then he took the leftovers to work with him for lunch. So all is forgiven. Tonight i am making Trifle for dessert.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at November 11, 2016 06:32 PM (YhV5r)

672 664 Ken Blackwell... anyone know anything about him? Trump tapped him to help with transition on domestic issues? Just heard from my son. Any info?
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at November 11, 2016 06:31 PM (CNHr1)

*************

IIRC

Secretary of State for Ohio.

Fought of that John Kerry recount fiasco.

Posted by: Homes at November 11, 2016 06:33 PM (fi5nC)

673 I'm very excited about Pence replacing Christie picking personnel. With Pence talking in one of Trump's ears, and Jeff Sessions in the other, we might end up with a much more conservative executive than I ever expected from a Northeastern Liberal Republican.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 11, 2016 06:31 PM (0F67M)

That has always been my hope. Waiting with bated breath .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 11, 2016 06:33 PM (IDPbH)

674 George Soros is running a criminal organization, the sole goal of which is to foment insurrection.

He should be tried for sedition, stripped of his assets and either incarcerated for life or deported.

Yes.

Posted by: free tibet, and all that other sh*t at November 11, 2016 06:33 PM (CL76w)

675 So those weasels pushed it through with reconciliation because Scott Brown won the special election in MA, and had promised to stop the thing.

Seems to me it's like Executive Orders, there's nothing more permanent about them than the paper they're written on.

Posted by: Boots at November 11, 2016 06:13 PM (EBwPV)

*****

I thought the SCOTUS ruled that the actuals words of the law don't matter - and you can do whatever regulations that contradict the law to satisfy the intent of making healthcare affordable.

So all Trump has to do is define a regulation scheme that will work, let the opponents sue in court, and hopefully in 2 years the midterms will give Trump a filibuster proof majority to repeal it completely.

Posted by: Lymond at November 11, 2016 06:33 PM (2mv+1)

676 I don't really want to out AP - asshole or not. But the picture I saw of him is not Barro

Posted by: 18-1 at November 11, 2016 06:33 PM (aZq03)

677 With how AP is about his anonymity, he wouldn't have attended CPAC. And like I and others have said, Barro is too young to be AP, and his background doesn't really fit either - he's from MA and has a Psych degree from Harvard, whereas people are almost positive that AP has a legal background and is a native New Yorker.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at November 11, 2016 06:34 PM (kumBu)

678 Actually, I think I'm falling in love with Allah. I think I'm becoming a Muslim.

I'm so sorry I was so rude and disrespectful to Muslims in the past. I humble myself before you, before great and glorious Allah, creator of the universe, and his prophet Mohammed, may peace be upon him.

Posted by: AllahPudnitz at November 11, 2016 06:34 PM (OkKDg)

679 I read Allah's comments as ace did.

Something infuriating to me, and is one of the reasons we have Trump, is that we're not arguing whether to boycott GrubHub for their repeating the lie (a la "hands up don't shoot") that Trump has certain attributes (racist, homophobic, non-inclusive, etc) but whether we should boycott for the fact that GrubHub was threatening employees for adopting those falsely attributed attributes themselves. THIS IS WHAT THE LEFT WANTS! The truth is lost in a sea of lies over and over and over again with the power of the media behind it and the underlying falsity rolls on (sorry for the all caps yelling but as I said, infuriated).

Posted by: MSTisdale at November 11, 2016 06:34 PM (g9d8D)

680 Ken Blackwell... anyone know anything about him? Trump tapped him to
help with transition on domestic issues? Just heard from my son. Any
info?

John Kenneth "Ken" Blackwell (born February 28, 194

is an American politician and activist who served as the mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio from 1979 to 1980, the Ohio State Treasurer from 1994 to 1999, and Ohio Secretary of State from 1999 to 2007. He was the Republican candidate for governor of Ohio in 2006 and got 37% of the vote against the eventual victor, Ted Strickland. He was the first African American to be a major-party candidate for governor in Ohio. He is a Senior Fellow for Family Empowerment.with The Family Research Council, an organization identified as a hate-group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. You may now continue.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at November 11, 2016 06:34 PM (0F67M)

681 667
I'm very excited about Pence replacing Christie picking personnel. With
Pence talking in one of Trump's ears, and Jeff Sessions in the other, we
might end up with a much more conservative executive than I ever
expected from a Northeastern Liberal Republican.

Posted by: Grump928(C)

====

Absolutely!

We were bitching this morning about Christy and look what happens.

I am convinced that Kelly Ann reads AOSHQ!

Posted by: Mortimer, negative, dark, divisive and deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:34 PM (zu88C)

682 As a Pennsylvanian I am a #NeverChristie.

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:34 PM (GH68B)

683 Posted by: Goldilocks at November 11, 2016 06:27 PM (pOgVG)

This culture has gotten way too comfortable airing their personal laundry on the internet as if it somehow wins them points(?)

Would she have even done it if she could not video it simultaneously? Did this bitch decide to scar her child because she was thinking about people lauding her online.

Some evil people out there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 11, 2016 06:34 PM (92kX2)

684 559 @507

New link. Till they take it down.
Its sickening.

http://tinyurl.com/zoolnuf
Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 06:06 PM (5Z34V)

What an evil cunt. That's child abuse. Period.

Posted by: Insomniac - 1 in 94,609,000 at November 11, 2016 06:34 PM (X2m/e)

685 And as for Allahpundit, he jumped the shark a while ago. Nothing but bitterness coming was coming through with his writing, I couldn't take it anymore.

Posted by: Lymond at November 11, 2016 06:35 PM (2mv+1)

686 " About other things, like the conservative belief that businesses should be able to hire and fire whomever they please because they're private entities, memories might be shorter." Allah seems to be saying here that there's something inconsistent about boycotting these guys because of anti-Trumpian discrimination. There is no inconsistency. They do indeed have the right to fire whomever they please, but I have the right to take my business elsewhere in response to their actions. Just because I believe in their right to fire Trump supporters doesn't mean I have to approve of them doing so.

Posted by: Mikesixes at November 11, 2016 06:35 PM (d3YGF)

687 MeAgain is blaming Trump for giving her the poops by implying that he poisoned her before the first debate.

She apparently leads/drags the reader to her crazy feminist conclusions but so she does not get sued she says something like "I report you decide".

LMFAO!

Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 11, 2016 06:36 PM (Fp5Wm)

688 Now, if emails come out that AP was getting some scratch on the side from the DNC to depress the Trump vote (even though 90% of righties who read the current incarnation of HA are doing it because Ace linked there), that I might believe - AP has had a pretty big fall from grace, and his cats have gotta eat.

But he's not Josh Barro. It just doesn't fit.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at November 11, 2016 06:36 PM (kumBu)

689 @499: "You sound like one of those clowns burning down Portland. There was
nothing corrupt about the election save for the usual Democrat ballot
stuffing.

My participation is an attempt to remove as much corruption as
possible, hence my vote against the corrupt Clinton machine. If you have
any evidence of corruption in public office by Trump then bring it on.

Otherwise, your statement doesn't really mean anything."

Holy strawmen, Batman! I said "participation in a corrupt political system" not merely an election. Government derives its legitimacy from the consent of the governed. If you participate in the process (i.e., the system), you consent to the outcome, even if it isn't the outcome you'd prefer.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at November 11, 2016 06:36 PM (rznWS)

690 Gushka glad things worked out

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:37 PM (GH68B)

691 Wikipedia: "Barro lives in Queens, New York, is gay, and supports same-sex marriage. He is also an atheist."

Posted by: cool breeze at November 11, 2016 06:37 PM (StZrq)

692 No Ace, you're correct; Allah is a Left-defending cuck.

Posted by: The Packetman at November 11, 2016 06:37 PM (WyZtB)

693 656 I genuinely do believe AllahPundit is someone that's playing a game of pretend Conservative and trolling behind "enemy" lines.

Even before Trump, it seemed clear to me that he was not a conservative agent acting in good faith.

Posted by: Maritime at November 11, 2016 06:29 PM (f4+HA)

I get that feeling about pretty much the entire party apparatus. The whole milquetoast squishy let's all get along oh my lord my pearls! clutching shit is just a way to get you to take it up the poop chute from the libs...again and again.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 11, 2016 06:38 PM (4ErVI)

694 https://www.facebook.com/viralthread/videos/598130190359668/

Posted by: bestie21 at November 11, 2016 06:38 PM (JE4Qx)

695 Yeah, I'm really done with highbrow blueblood "We're better than that" crap. Not when they talk about knives and gunfights.

Posted by: Ter at November 11, 2016 06:38 PM (VCHxR)

696 Posted by: @SOEarpiece at November 11, 2016 06:34 PM (0F67M)

FRC. That will do in what's left of the Lib's minds.

Posted by: Golfman at November 11, 2016 06:38 PM (48QDY)

697 My thing is you should destroy the ability of ANYONE to destroy their
enemies with the political levers of the state- and find a way to make
it stick.Posted by: Aetius451AD

EXACTLY this. It must be stopped.

Posted by: FITP at November 11, 2016 06:38 PM (j0Q8n)

698 Blackwell attended Xavier University in Cincinnati, Ohio on a football scholarship. Blackwell received a Bachelor of Science degree in psychology from Xavier in 1970 and his Master of Education degree, also from Xavier, in 1971. He taught at Xavier from 1974 to 1991 and has served as a trustee of Wilberforce University and Wilmington College. After college, he was invited to the Dallas Cowboys' training camp; he gave up football when he was told he would have to convert from linebacker to offensive lineman.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 11, 2016 06:38 PM (0F67M)

699 646 On that video of the crazy mom yelling at her little boy, how exactly did this get posted? Did she actually think the viewers would be on her side, and post it herself?
Posted by: Chris M at November 11, 2016 06:26 PM (k3w9p)

******************

Seems to be the case.

She posted it to a smaller facebook group and then someone sent it to the "Michelle Obama for 2020" facebook group.

That specific group--that is not connected directly to Michelle Obama has denounced it.

Child protective services have been called according to reddit.

I'm not sure what else can be done.

My above ideas might be stupid as hell because it makes it political.

Still I wish CNN and others could be made aware of what--"weaponizing demographics" has turned into.

There is a honeymoon period for any President elect and it is suppose to be a time of coming together.

Ironic because it looks like this is a thread about Republicans continuing to go after each other.

Posted by: Homes at November 11, 2016 06:39 PM (fi5nC)

700 Mike Rowe puts its best, again

http://tinyurl.com/hz3uwpu

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 11, 2016 06:39 PM (39g3+)

701 I think Ken is not to be trifled with.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 11, 2016 06:39 PM (0F67M)

702 Nood.

Posted by: guy who can't spell freind at November 11, 2016 06:40 PM (4Utw1)

703 Since 2008, the number of D senators is down 10%, congressman and state legislators both down 20%, state governors down 36%, and President down 100%.

Maybe Obama deserves his high approval rating.

If Trump has a good first term, and rebrands the R party, the Ds will be in an even worse pickle. Let us pray.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 11, 2016 06:40 PM (SIY7D)

704 Apparently this Blackwell guy is very anti gay. Trump had a lot of LGBT votes. They will feel betrayed.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at November 11, 2016 06:41 PM (CNHr1)

705 Trump's slogan was NOT 'it's payback time' nor did the majority of his followers believe that either.
Thus Ace is correct - Allah's being an ass.
People are sick of the staus quo, and Trump was the ONLY candidate who could possibly fix that.

Posted by: 5Cats at November 11, 2016 06:41 PM (afIvp)

706 Allahpundit's tone has been the same for almost a year with Trump. It's tired and worn out. Tonight he is shitting on Trump for saying maybe the good parts of Obamacare should be kept. He doesn't even have a cabinet yet, let alone be in the job for even a minute and it is the same weaponized Eeyore-ism that was stale before it was weaponized. He should stick to writing about The Walking Dead and hybrid hot-dog pizza. Ugh. Suck-it, dick-weed.

Posted by: Brad at November 11, 2016 06:42 PM (W1BbS)

707 Why do you hate us Muslims? I thought this was a free country.

Posted by: AllahPudnitz at November 11, 2016 06:42 PM (OkKDg)

708 690
Gushka glad things worked out

Posted by: Skip voted deplorable at November 11, 2016 06:37 PM (GH68B)

so am I. Thats why hes getting a special treat tonight. Act nice, show up on time, clean your plate, and you get fruitcup.

Posted by: Gushka Can Has Kittehs what plays fetch! at November 11, 2016 06:42 PM (YhV5r)

709 Re : more Obamacare

I suspect one of the downfalls will be how much extra-legal ability Obama granted to the HHS Secretary.

It's almost like they never expected another party to ever be in control ever again, isn't it?

Posted by: 16 paranoia filled days later at November 11, 2016 06:43 PM (x4zgf)

710 Also, AP's claim that "Trumpians" (that alone is demeaning - I never once heard him refer to Clinonites, or Clintonistas - coincidence?) have short memories and thus our claim that private businesses can hire and fire whom they want has nothing whatsoever to do with a boycott against GrubHub.

On the one hand, Conservatives don't want the federal or state governments telling businesses whom they must hire or fire, but that's not incongruent with refusing to associate with a private business that fires Conservatives b/c they support Trump. What's that saying, the freedom to associate comes with the freedom to NOT associate (or some such thing). Not sure if that made sense.

Posted by: MSTisdale at November 11, 2016 06:45 PM (g9d8D)

711
Oh, the GOPe Self-Defense Force orbited in to defend a fellow member?

Sorry I missed it. I do so love those sort of things.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 11, 2016 06:45 PM (kdS6q)

712 60 On Wednesday the associate pastor at my church posted on FB: The feurer presidency begins. This from an Afrikaner who became a U.S. citizen. Told him I was offended and suggested he learn to spell. From here on out if a SJW goes to the Hitler comparison I walk away. As grandma said: there are sticks and then there are fucksticks.
Posted by: WASP & Unashamed at November 11, 2016 04:41 PM (gwG9s)

I'd find a new church. The fascists are out trashing Portland and they aren't Trump supporters. Nothing liberal about them either.

Posted by: Bernette at November 11, 2016 06:47 PM (Hv133)

713 629 585 Its sickening.
http://tinyurl.com/zoolnuf
Posted by: sippin_bourbon at November 11, 2016 06:06 PM (5Z34V)

That poor boy!! Straight up child abuse. What loving parent does this kind of mental anguish kabuki on a child?

If this boy had come out as gay and he mom did this, the left would be CRUCIFYING her right now.
Posted by: LizLem at November 11, 2016 06:14 PM (hvf9s)

Good God, that is horrifying. That evil bitch isn't fit to raise children.

And wtf was standing there filming that? Her? She actually thought she'd put that up on FB and people would praise her and give her high fives?

Those poor, poor children.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V(deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&and so there at November 11, 2016 06:49 PM (P8951)

714 I thought Allahpukedit and Hot Gas closed up shop 2 years ago when they morphed into a Hillary Clinton site. They are still around? Wow, learn something new everyday!

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 11, 2016 06:49 PM (NAv1Q)

715 Posted by: Pepe, Proud American Nationalist at November 11, 2016 06:36 PM (Fp5Wm)

Just came back from Hillbuzz, their election night coverage:

"1042pmCT- I loved this. Megyn Kelly was crying on TV! She is humiliated and devastated! She'll be advertising her services as a masseuse on craigslist in a few months."

Posted by: kallisto at November 11, 2016 06:50 PM (jkmtt)

716 I liked Allahpundit back when he was doing his "creator of worlds" shtick. Past few years? Not so much.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at November 11, 2016 06:52 PM (Ztfnl)

717 710
What's that saying, the freedom to associate comes with the freedom to NOT associate (or some such thing). Not sure if that made sense.
Posted by: MSTisdale at November 11, 2016 06:45 PM (g9d8D)

That was Ayn Rand. "Freedom of association includes the freedom NOT to associate."

Posted by: rickl the deplorable at November 11, 2016 07:05 PM (sdi6R)

718 I'm in between, but closer to Ace than to Allahpundit.

1. It is futile to attack AP for his opposition to LEGAL remedies here. It is a very well established position among libertarians that there should be no legal penalties for the actions of private agents. (This sometimes moves so far as to say that such actions are acceptable and not just legally untouchable). Personally, I think this is an unconservative view; a misreading of human nature and human society. It seems popular among those who, but temperament and vocation find it easy to change employers. Most are not in that position.
2. There is also a reluctance - which I usually feel - to engage in promiscuous boycotting; it sounds to SJW for us. Here I agree with Ace's previous post: That is true UNLESS the target is an agressor. I won't target those who donated to Hilllary; but I'll target Target.
3. Some of this involves cases of using the law, as it stands on the books, against the people who wrote those laws to be used against us. I cannot see any objection to this, on any rational basis.
4. I am, however, very tired of complaints about tone, and constantly seeing things in class terms. Yes, there's something in that, but Ace has developed tunnel vision over this year. Remember the idea that every heresy involves taking one truth, and setting it above all others? That seems true here (as it is with Allahpundit, as my #1 says). Either way, it is not conservatism.

Posted by: George at November 11, 2016 07:25 PM (+TcCF)

719 that post from Allahpundit actually pushed me over the edge today and I removed HotAir from my RSS feed. I forgave his continuously negative mis-reading of Trumpian activities as part of the heat of the election. But, he's actually gotten worse. And it is the TONE more than exactly what he says. It's a shame. I used to really like him. I expect him to go full Andrew Sullivan any day now.

Posted by: GuyGalt at November 11, 2016 07:28 PM (hEi5G)

720 664 @DeplorableJewells45

Ken Blackwell started out as Cincinnati Councilman, and (as far I know) was the first black Republican to earn a chair. From that point he moved further in politics culminating in his winning the honor of running for governor of Ohio. Unfortunately, he defeated the chosen successor of Taft and earned the wraith of the Ohio GOPe... the support by the party in the election was 'mild' at best. And yes, the 'rat won.

Granted, it's Wikipedia, but here ya go... http://tinyurl.com/zgnnwzp

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 11, 2016 07:38 PM (ry4ab)

721 719 Seriously, right? It's like every day someone has taken a dump in his serial - miserable POS with nothing good to say. Not a big leap to the other side from where he is now.

Posted by: Brad at November 11, 2016 07:39 PM (W1BbS)

722 "No special rules for special people. Not another fucking inch more down that road."

+100 to this.

Posted by: OffendedMan at November 11, 2016 07:42 PM (P/8kS)

723 What's a GrubHub? Can I get some lawn stuff there?

Posted by: Mike at November 11, 2016 07:46 PM (CEH67)

724 I love your brain, Ace. And your spirit.

And yes, not one inch.

Posted by: Alana at November 11, 2016 07:53 PM (ASfgM)

725 I don't see any point in being magnanimous in victory. They certainly aren't magnanimous in defeat. They simply ramp up the "fear" of the "horrible people," along with all then name-calling.

Well, their premises are faulty. They state things as if they are facts - Trump is a "sexual predator;" anyone who voted for him is "racist;" wanting to enforce border law - ANY border law - is racist and xenophobic; etc. ad infinitum.

I reject those premises. And I'm beginning to reject those who believe them, too. Life is too short to listen to that repeated abuse.

Posted by: Alana at November 11, 2016 07:56 PM (ASfgM)

726 AllahPundit almost suggests a "turn thy cheek" religiosity that is not of this world.

Posted by: uncle miltie at November 11, 2016 08:09 PM (GtF1U)

727 Things that you can do to counter some of this leftist nonsense:
1. Join/donate to Judicial Watch (they are outstanding and have a current lawsuit against Hillary Clinton)
2. Join other groups like the Heritage Foundation / Goldwater Institute
3. Personally I will be re-registering as a Republican (after Donald takes office)
4. BOYCOTTS : Minimize your purchases of movie theater tickets and all forms of Hollywood entertainment.
5. BOYCOTTS : Minimize your purchases of all Chinese made products if you can find US made
6. BOYCOTTS: Do not take out any forms of bank loans (at least for awhile if you can possibly live w/o)
7. BOYCOTTS: All companies that supported the Clinton Foundation, such as Coca-Cola and Pepsi (healthier for you any way)
8. BOYCOTTS: Under know circumstance buy a GM, Pontiac, Chevrolet made car. (reason: union pensions/corporate bailouts - pass this on to your childrens children if possible)
9. THINK TANK: create a conservative- type think tank in your area and find ways to reach out to different voting blocka about values. Figure common goals for your community and political races.
10. GROW YOUR own FOOD as much as possible. Even if it is just a box garden.
11. ACQUIRE and MAINTAIN personal property and teach the value of it to those around you - this is America where citizens are actually supposed to able to keep stuff.
12. DO NOT ATTEND COLLEGE: instead join a professional organization and seek a certification. It is cheaper quicker and might be just as valuable as a degree. examples automotive, supply chain, fluid power (hydraulics/pneumatics)
13. DO NOT TRY TO WORK OVERLAY HARD, but emphasize the valie of working and neing productive. Stay in balance.
14. PRAY to God, get out and worship

If you have more points to add please reply.

Posted by: kyle at November 11, 2016 08:16 PM (xHjHR)

728 Allah Pundit is butt hurt. Not sure why. Ace's comments on AP's craven comments are right on target.

Posted by: Soulless at November 11, 2016 08:21 PM (7lqlp)

729 Posted by: kyle at November 11, 2016 08:16 PM (xHjHR)

I think you got it all nicely. ++

Posted by: Mimzey at November 11, 2016 08:42 PM (n3hky)

730
Personally, I believe that private entities have the right to be decriminatory.
However, most on the left are more than eager to inflict their will on others. And while generally, I'm a live and let let sort of guy,the left doesn't want to afford me that consideration. Bullies don't seem to stop if you turn the other cheek. So screw 'em. Hold them to their standards. They said that ALL descrimination is bad and that there should be legal repercussions to those who discriminate.Well, they can enjoy those repercussions too.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 11, 2016 09:00 PM (v3DL/)

731 All lives matter and Ace should have an advisory position in Trump's WH.
Ace, thank you for being a freakin Guardian of the Galaxy.

Posted by: Joe Mack at November 11, 2016 09:08 PM (cJDvr)

732 "Trump won because many working-class (and college-educated) whites voted the way other racial blocs do."

AllahPundit can fuck off. I have never voted for someone because of the color of their skin or because they have dangling genitals.

Posted by: Saxinis at November 11, 2016 09:11 PM (70g5L)

733 You're dead on Ace. Anyone who says otherwise is tone deaf or GOPe.

Posted by: jacke at November 11, 2016 09:35 PM (fO+6C)

734 AllahPundit seems to have been secretly replaced by Charles Johnson of LGF... Not sure when or why.

Posted by: Mike at November 11, 2016 09:49 PM (iDxq/)

735 Folks, we are in an ideological war.

Allahpundit has had people fooled for a long time. He is a rhetorical assassin and his job is to subvert, undermine, and destroy. With the cloak of Conservatism protecting him, he can be quite good at it. His writing is meant to seed doubt in the minds true conservatives. He is an agent for established Republicans in D.C. His articles are also messaging protocols designed to get GOPe on the same page and apply pressure to key players.

Look at his article today about Kellyanne Conway: GOPe desperately wants some entry into the administration through Chief of Staff and there are rumors that Trump is considering Steve Bannon (a great choice to protect the administration from Establishment infiltration). Bannon would be a disaster for GOPe, whereas Conway (as good as she is) would allow the possibility for entryway into the Trump administration by subverters. Bannon shuts that down. So, enter Allahpundit to bring out the messaging: Kellyann Conway would be the best choice for chief of staff. It's all designed to apply pressure.

Also, Allahpundit uses polls to dishearten true conservative voters. He promotes garbage poll after garbage poll to weave a narrative of doubt. So many Republicans questioned Trump's ability to win by uncritically reading Allahpundit posts. Because Hotair brands itself as a conservative blog, people don't understand that they are being manipulated by moneyed interests that have OWNED Republicans for a long time.

Allahpundit is a snake. You should understand that he is trying to fool you. If he's not Josh Barro, he is probably a campaign operative that is operating covertly. I wouldn't be shocked if he were a McConnell or Ryan staffer. Who the fuck knows?

But make no mistake: he is an ideological enemy and is working mischief from within. He should be dealt with accordingly.

Posted by: Zodiac Killer at November 11, 2016 09:53 PM (/l+9E)

736 Trump should appoint Christie to head theDOJ and Rudy as AG then commence the Purge. Everyone wringing their hands about tone and mercy can get bent.

Posted by: Lace Wigg at November 11, 2016 09:54 PM (597GD)

737 And Trump should heed his instincts and hire Bannon as Chief of Staff.

Posted by: Lace Wigg at November 11, 2016 09:57 PM (597GD)

738
268 OK, all the lily pure NeverTrumpers here's your chance, give Donald your wonderful and valuable advice here on his website where he is asking for ideas.

https://www.greatagain.gov/

Be part of the solution or shut up.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at November 11, 2016 05:12 PM (kXoT0)

Please no.

And posts 315 and 317 ... damn hahahahahahaha great stuff.

Posted by: Bernette at November 11, 2016 10:18 PM (JSys4)

739 zincfinger,

I would respond by noting this, which I've said before:

There are some genuinely deep disagreements on the right. Part of the reason we have become dysfunctional and angry is because we have avoided those arguments either out of cowardly conflict avoidance (can't argue with someone "on our side") or in a futile attempt to preserve the mere APPEARANCE of unity by papering over very deep and very much undiscussed disagreements.

It's time to have those disagreements.

No, I do not believe in unilateral disarmament in the face of constant SJW aggressions. I believe in Tit for Tat, and I've said so several times.

I *previously* subscribed to the idea that we should behave the way we wish the left would behave -- with the idea that perhaps one day they would see the power of our approach, and change their own approach to conform with ours.

I have previously urged that sort of approach.

But I look at the evidence, and when the evidence tells me that a course of action has utterly failed -- as the evidence tells me here -- I look for another approach.

I once advocated Treat Them as You'd Wish to be Treated Yourself.

That failed.

I now advocate Treat Them Precisely The Same as They Treat You Until They Feel the Pain of it and Sue for Peace (and agree to more civil rules of engagement).

Playing the pacifist in the face of unceasing aggression is just begging to have your ass kicked forever.

I've had my ass kicked enough. Done.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2016 10:38 PM (8rNrN)

740 I think you have the right philosophy here. It has been proven to be the best approach over the millenia. Think of it as owing your fellow man the appropriate feedback. Human interactions are like machines, I think. Without the proper signals they don't know how to adjust.

Posted by: JackT at November 11, 2016 10:54 PM (QXHTo)

741 What amazes me is that these violent SJWs haven't yet triggered violent overwhelming retribution. The fact concealed carriers manage to stay polite and controlled despite the hostility spewed at shocks me. Unfortunately the time will soon come when these SJWs will be shot and killed during an attack-justifiably. I fear the dam breaking open. Violence approaches in response to their overwhelming hatred. It saddens me. But it will also be the only thing that will get them to stop the attacks.

Posted by: Docgm at November 11, 2016 10:55 PM (NYg1q)

742 Allahpundit is a fag. And a pussy.

Posted by: Rip at November 11, 2016 10:56 PM (BaiXj)

743 I've had my ass kicked enough. Done.
Posted by: ace at November 11, 2016 10:38 P

My first for years were on military bases in the 50's
by the time I was four I was a skilled pugilist...
Even the teen age kids respected me..
It was driven into my fabric that the second you think someone is getting sideways..punch first.
We moved into Austin in a minority neighborhood...our first day there a huge kid..he was 12, told me to give him my money...I hit him so hard it cold cocked him and he fell wiggling...all the other fuckers ran...nobody ever messed with me after that...

Posted by: Beto Ochoa (@Beto_In_Austin) at November 11, 2016 11:06 PM (hCdMd)

744 baller move, bruv.

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2016 11:07 PM (8rNrN)

745 when was the last time Allahpundit said anything specifically conservative, like 2004?

Posted by: jihadi at November 11, 2016 11:17 PM (I64i9)

746 it's the Allahpundits and Ed Morriseys who got it wrong
They wanted to be "Civil" but it's a civil war...
the spineless republicans took their cues from them...

Posted by: Beto Ochoa (@Beto_In_Austin) at November 11, 2016 11:24 PM (hCdMd)

747 Some years ago a Nobel Prize was awarded to game-theorists who concluded that the best, most effective strategy was "tit-for-tat"--that is, do unto others AS THEY DO UNTO YOU. Don't turn the other cheek, and don't seek total, permanent victory either.

Interesting, the only Repubs who really attacked the Dems with (almost) their own tactics were JoeMcCarthy RichardNixon. The 2 most reviled Repubs ever, and 2 of the most effective.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at November 11, 2016 11:39 PM (+O9YB)

748 Zodiak Killer @ 735 nails it.

RedState is another nest of cuck vipers. Patterico's post today is a disappointing failure of imagination and the gratuitous slap at Palin is just lame. Bless their hearts, all these years later, she's still living rent free in their heads.

Ace is right, the veil has been dropped, and the funniest part is that we don't give a shit what a group of powerless fucks think.

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at November 11, 2016 11:45 PM (9HNfr)

749 Allahpundit. Every other tribe gets to vote and lay claim to that which supports their tribe. They can be as racist and violent as they want to be.

We can't even vote in our best interests without pussies like Allahpundit denigrating us.

Allahpundit is the traitor. The RINO. Fuck him and fuck HotAir.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at November 11, 2016 11:45 PM (DeU1P)

750 National Review sent me a subscription request recently, before the election. It was pathetic. It pictured numerous covers where NR mocked Hillary.

Like I would forget the famous "Against Trump" cover.

I did what I always do. I wrote "Trump 2016" on the response card and mailed it back to them in the no-postage-required envelope.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at November 11, 2016 11:51 PM (DeU1P)

751 Tit for tat is legitimate game theory - you punish non-cooperation tit for tat, and its leads to MORE cooperation!

This is why for the Fillbuster - McConnel should never have agreed to restore it fully.

He should have said something like "We reserve the right to remove the filibuster for the issue of our choosing for the exact number of days Reid did so."

That would punish the Dems, while also letting people know why they were punished.

Posted by: Harun at November 12, 2016 12:03 AM (dZQh7)

752 But I think we all know McConnel didn't want to actually get anything done, or force Obama to really veto much stuff

Posted by: Harun at November 12, 2016 12:06 AM (dZQh7)

753 Seems to me Ace is advocating the winning strategy for Prisoner's Logic games: Cooperate until screwed, then follow the last move of the other guy. Crush and destroy, and be ready to cooperate again as needed.

Posted by: Chap at November 12, 2016 12:42 AM (4Gn2F)

754 Use their names and words and then act.

"As for the protesters...as Obama said...I won"

"We're going to pull an Obama and punish our enemies".

"Like Obama said in 2008, you have to get in their faces."

"As Obama put it, if they bring a knife to he fight, we bring a gun."

"Yeah, on this issue we've decided to pull a Harry Reid and do away with the filibuster"

"This one calls for a Nancy Pelosi. Have to pass it to see what's in it."

Posted by: MostlyRight at November 12, 2016 12:55 AM (zlwAE)

755 F*ck Allahpundit. Damned #Nevertrumper.

Posted by: Guido911 at November 12, 2016 01:56 AM (Q0d1T)

756 Ignore them. I think you nailed it. Slime always tries to slither out on nuance. If you have to defend it, it's... not defensible. Not in the days of free speech and real descent. That isn't even just going with your gut. What do your damned lying eyes bring in and your brain decipher? Right. Tell the naysayers to kiss your ass, do it for me... and yourself if you have it to you.

No more forked-tongue talk.

Posted by: Doom at November 12, 2016 03:20 AM (uufFZ)

757 "Tit for tat is legitimate game theory - you punish non-cooperation tit for tat, and its leads to MORE cooperation!

This is why for the Fillbuster - McConnel should never have agreed to restore it fully.

He should have said something like "We reserve the right to remove the filibuster for the issue of our choosing for the exact number of days Reid did so."

That would punish the Dems, while also letting people know why they were punished. "

I agree 100%.

The R leaders should announce the travesty of what the Democrats did exactly when they changed the rule and tell the people that they will go back to the way it is suppose to work after they use it for every minute that the Democrats did.

No more freebies for these mfers.

Posted by: Drider at November 12, 2016 05:13 AM (6Xbsz)

758 2008: 'We won, you lost; sit down, shut up, and get over it.'
2016: 'We lost, you won; sit down, shut up, and get over it.'

Posted by: C Moss at November 12, 2016 08:11 AM (H/315)

759 Re: the duty to turn the other cheek, this explanation makes sense to me. I think it's in Androcles and the Lion by GB Shaw:

A Christian slave gets punched by a Roman guard and does nothing. When asked why, "He says it's my Christian duty to turn the other cheek." When the guard takes advantage and punches him again, the Christian slave decks him, explaining, "...and it's my obligation to give him a chance to do his Christian duty, too."

I'll turn the other cheek. Once.

Posted by: MarkW at November 12, 2016 09:25 AM (QAzDE)

760 Actually, Ace, as Noah says in comment 670, what you are describing is the Brass Rule, not the Iron Rule.

Oh, and the "Iron Law of Oligarchy" page on Wikipedia is worth a read.

Posted by: geewhiz at November 12, 2016 10:40 AM (LG9Ah)

761 Alwaheelpundit can keep waiting for the phone to ring, it's not gonna happen. Hubris is not just a product of the left establishment.

Posted by: Michael Woiwood at November 12, 2016 11:22 AM (3kK4g)

762 Are you F-ING kidding me? Ever since the Clinton War Machine starting attacking the Independent Counsel - no NOT Ken Starr - for setting up shop in Little Rock on actionable evidence of corruption...since F-ING 1994 I've been living with these condescending asswipes.

When Progressives win, they pour battery acid on the wounded. When Progressives lose, they pretend they didn't move the goal posts and immediately seek a compromise to the already compromised positions.

And the GOP in 2010 and 2014 took the mandate of their base and used it to piss back in our faces. And then they buried Ted Cruz in the primaries.

Now all these dickheads think this is about Donald Trump. It's not. We don't want stinkin' compromises. We don't want to play nice or sweet. I want to take a fucking sledgehammer to the Skull of Progressivism and dance like Wild Injuns on the fecal matter that spills from said skull.

If someone wants to compromise then you can sort out which liquor I'm pouring over the cracked Skull of Progressivism before I take I swig and drop the torch and howl like a Hungry Wolf.

Does that paint the picture clearly enough for you Go Along To Get Along fucking sellouts? Good. Let's pass out the sledgehammers. Oh yeah. I vote for rum but I'm flexible.

Posted by: David Galvis at November 12, 2016 01:33 PM (lkBka)

763 Sorry but you got it right the FIRST time. They were the ones who set the rules of engagement and now that the shoe is on the other foot so to speak THEY have to live by them. I have never been PC and I'm not about to start now. Time to take the gloves of permanently and start punching back. This election was the beginning and I am more than willing to keep up the fight to take back my country. I'm tired of being told what to do, how to do it, what to say, how to say it and what is "right" in their eyes.

Posted by: Carson L Crane at November 12, 2016 01:42 PM (n9FA1)

764 739 zincfinger,

I would respond by noting this, which I've said before...

Posted by: ace at November 11, 2016 10:38 PM (8rNrN)

I agree with all of that. And to whatever extent AP thinks it is unseemly to boycott GrubHub, or give them a hit of crippling PR, I disagree with him.

Posted by: zincfinger at November 12, 2016 02:51 PM (dwCy9)

765 Basically, I think Kurt Schlichter has the right idea. Crush the left; enjoy their bitter tears. But, to the greatest extent possible, try to let bygones be bygones with past and possible future allies that you weren't able to agree with this cycle.

Posted by: zincfinger at November 12, 2016 03:02 PM (dwCy9)

766 Grubhub's customers are largely Trump supporters. A boycott campaign should be organized.

Posted by: MikeN at November 12, 2016 07:34 PM (o/eHL)

767 "They were the ones who set the rules of engagement and now that the shoe is on the other foot so to speak THEY have to live by them."

Exactly. Here's how it plays out:

Left: [throws sand in Right's eyes]
Right: Hey that's cheating!
Left: Hahaha bite me
Right: [throws sand in Left's eyes]
Left: Okay lets not allow that anymore....

Every. Single. Time.

They don't back off until their own tyranny is inflicted back on them. Make them remember.

Posted by: Fen at November 12, 2016 07:36 PM (ALCF6)

768 FWIW, I agree with the above poster who mentioned the fact that AP was happy to have SOMEBODY, ANYBODY read a post by AP.

My how times have changed.

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