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War on Women? The Real War is on our Boys [Warden]
It may not be a surprise to many of you that after decades of a leftist controlled public education system that regularly denigrates and shames boys for their masculinity, that boys are now lagging behind girls in school.
Women now comprise 60% of college graduates and are trouncing boys across all measures of academic performance, save one--SAT scores where the boys beat the girls by a significant margin in math and slightly in reading. The response to this disparity, of course, is to label boy's superior SAT scores to, you guessed it, gender biased testing that favors boys. It cannot be the case that boys are better at something. Boys are never better at anything. Our schools are stuffed full of left-wing, female educators who largely despise boys and see their very nature as a problem to be corrected. They've beaten them down, broken their spirits and stuffed them full of Ritalin to shut them up. Is it news to you that 20% of 14 year old boys have been diagnosed with ADHD? It shouldn't be because it's a goddamned outrage. They've literally pathologized masculinity. I have two boys, aged 5 and 10 and I'm mad as hell about how this garbage culture treats them. But here's the thing--I can't change how others act toward me and my family. I can only control what we do. We need solutions--all of us who wish to raise our boys into strong, confident, masculine men rather than the limp and effete pajama-boys we're beginning to see dominate our culture. So what do we do? I have a few recommendations below the fold. Please add yours to the comments.First, grab yourself a copy of Wild at Heart. It's not a book about raising boys, per se, but all of it is dedicated to examining the true nature of masculinity from a Christian perspective. If that turns you off, then just think "nature" and "evolution" instead of God and you'll still find quite a bit of valuable reading here.
Secondly, I think we need to actively and purposefully encourage masculinity in our boys. Men, particularly, should be aware that every single day they are modeling what it means to be a man to their sons--how you interact with your wife, your reaction to problems, your physical and mental toughness, your ability to problem solve, and your strength and courage in navigating life. I am, quite frankly, a radical reactionary when it comes to this feminized culture. I seek to neutralize its effects in my boys by emphasizing and encouraging masculinity in all walks of life. I think that exposing your boys to all of the things that the left hates is a good start--contact sports, martial arts, guns, working with your hands, fishing, woodworking, etc... I can't fill all these roles myself--for example, I'm not the most handy fix-it guy in the world, but I am able to fill in these gaps with other strong male role models like the boys' uncles, grandparents and in-laws. I also take the boys to stereotypically masculine events--car racing, monster trucks, regional pro wrestling, rodeos, football games, etc... If it's loud, dirty or dangerous to the participants, we're there. More importantly, though, I believe that men--fathers particularly--need to push back against the kind of helicopter parenting that so many mothers engage in. This means giving your boys, or even someone else's, the space to adventure, roughhouse, explore, and challenge themselves. It also means accepting a relatively higher level risk of injury. My wife is generally good with letting our boys be boys, but I do have to fight against her protective instincts at times. And this is okay. Parenting used to be a push-pull between husband and wife, finding the right balance between protectiveness and the freedom to explore, learn, test limits and sometimes get injured in doing so. Somewhere in the last 30 years or so, this balance shifted radically to the feminine side. We must shift back to a more healthy state of affairs. I'm not afraid to tell her to back off and let the boys go. It sometimes upsets her, but she also respects it and realizes that I understand them in ways that she doesn't. One of the ways I push back is by giving my kids a lot of room to roam. When we go to the supermarket, I let my 5 year old wander from site when I'm in a fixed location like waiting at the deli. He knows where everything is and where I'll be. He'll wander off, chat with the sample lady, check out the lobster tank and investigate any sales specials in the fruit bargain bin and return with what he discovered. I think it's good for him to explore and gain a sense of independence. It's always interesting to see how startled adults are when they see a kid this age walking alone. It's a mixture of concern and judgment. I don't care about what they think. This was normal when I was a child and things aren't anymore dangerous now than they used to be. The odds of a stranger snatching your kids are next to nil. I've weighed that tiny risk and found it to be acceptable for the simple reason that boys have an innate need to explore and conquer. Whether climbing trees, flailing at each other with stick swords, or tromping through an unknown creek, boys need to feel like adventuring heroes. They cannot do this while someone is constantly shielding them from risk. The risk is the point. Does all of this mean that I spend all my time yelling macho rah-rah slogans at my boys? Of course not. My older one is both thoughtful and sensitive and loves to do artwork. I recognize who God made him to be and also--and this is important--that these things do not negate his masculinity. He can paint a beautiful picture one day and go tearing around the neighborhood on his bike the next. That's who he is, that's what he does, and I'll be damned if I'll let anyone make him feel badly about it.Comments
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So, no gender-ambiguous dolls for the boys?
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at October 25, 2016 08:55 PM (J8/9G)
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Goddamn, my first First!
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at October 25, 2016 08:55 PM (J8/9G)
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Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2016 08:56 PM (Sfs6o)
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Congrats, Kodos..
Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2016 08:57 PM (Sfs6o)
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I give my boys time, room, and toys to be boys. I keep them outdoors as much as possible and support their sense of adventure. Of course this means my wife gets to point out that they've never needed emergency room visits when she's watching them...
Posted by: Drewbicle at October 25, 2016 08:57 PM (iGiss)
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I'm gonna get flamed for this .... the risk aversion in rearing our children is a function of their scarcity. We need to have more kids.
Posted by: Jean at October 25, 2016 08:59 PM (ngn8T)
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Guns lots of guns. Started with air guns and worked on up. Focus, rules.
Posted by: USNtakim at October 25, 2016 08:59 PM (hMqvx)
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Well, the thing to remember is that Boy's enjoy deconstructing things to figure out the why. It's natural. Girls on the other hand are pleased when conformity and order rule the day. I believe the latter has take president.
Posted by: OhNo He Didn't at October 25, 2016 09:00 PM (Blp1s)
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self control and breaking stuff whats not to love.
Posted by: USNtakim at October 25, 2016 09:00 PM (hMqvx)
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THRIPPY: deliberately and fastidiously well-mannered and polite to the point of provoking ridicule or annoyance. Not to be confused with various autism spectrum disorders which may or may not look similar.
Posted by: doomed at October 25, 2016 09:01 PM (UW4Uc)
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I'm 21 and my dad had me read Wild at Heart. I have since passed it along to all my friends and college basketball teamates. Their is an undercurrent going on right now. It's a movement to bring back real men who raise and protect families. Their is something exceptional about this country and the fact that men in our country are rebelling against this instead of going the way of Europe and Japan is the proof.
Posted by: connor at October 25, 2016 09:01 PM (0kVnk)
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Not just masculinity they have pathologized; if you look carefully what they have done is declared that being an alpha male is pathological. The part of the beta male and female attack on alpha males.
Posted by: An Observation at October 25, 2016 09:02 PM (5xI6f)
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Good post. Men have become The Enemy in The Current Year. (Well, at least heterosexual white men...who are cis-gendered...)
Posted by: WARPIG at October 25, 2016 09:03 PM (KL5Ns)
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Are females trouncing males academically? Or are they just trouncing them at repeating what professors want to hear? If the SJW and safe space that appears to be what is being taught and tested for what male could flourish or excel at that.
Posted by: Willy J. at October 25, 2016 09:03 PM (Ha50C)
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>>>I think we need to actively and purposefully encourage masculinity in our boys.
I'm kind of going back and forth on that one.
I treat my boys with love, give them 3 squares a day and try to make sure they get to bed on time, etc.
They are going to be the people they will be. I don't think we have as much control over that as we'd like to believe.
I'm kind of going back and forth on that one.
I treat my boys with love, give them 3 squares a day and try to make sure they get to bed on time, etc.
They are going to be the people they will be. I don't think we have as much control over that as we'd like to believe.
Posted by: Max Power at October 25, 2016 09:03 PM (q177U)
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Join the Boy Scouts, preferably a troop run by a bunch retired military assholes who won't put up with any of this feminized bullshit.
Posted by: DrEvil007 at October 25, 2016 09:04 PM (b04/g)
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Stanley Kubrick was killed after Eyes Wide Shut for a reason.
Public School Teachers are nothing more than agents of Family and Child Services. They despise fathers. They despise boys. They despise the nuclear family.
They honestly believe children are property of the State.
Public School Teachers are nothing more than agents of Family and Child Services. They despise fathers. They despise boys. They despise the nuclear family.
They honestly believe children are property of the State.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:05 PM (uzJKG)
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Excellent post. I have one son. He's 28. I babied him but thank god we did some stuff right cause he's a guys guy now
Posted by: Jaimo at October 25, 2016 09:05 PM (eDc0r)
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The best thing you can do for a young boy is to give him a wooden sword and send him off into the woods to slay dragons.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:05 PM (aL3pd)
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6 - Jean makes an excellent point.
When people had 8 kids, if one of two died in childhood, you still had a bunch to carry on your name and take care of you in your elder years.
These days, people have 1 or 2 (MAYBE 3).
When people had 8 kids, if one of two died in childhood, you still had a bunch to carry on your name and take care of you in your elder years.
These days, people have 1 or 2 (MAYBE 3).
Posted by: WARPIG at October 25, 2016 09:05 PM (KL5Ns)
Posted by: An Observation at October 25, 2016 09:06 PM (5xI6f)
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Speaking of boys...
That stupid lying douche bag Samantha Bee actually did a segment on "Partial Birth Abortions Aren't A Thing."
They're not a "thing." That's what it says in giant letters on the tv, so it must be true.
Crowder rebuts her:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhtphabTpIs
Speaking of boys...
That stupid lying douche bag Samantha Bee actually did a segment on "Partial Birth Abortions Aren't A Thing."
They're not a "thing." That's what it says in giant letters on the tv, so it must be true.
Crowder rebuts her:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhtphabTpIs
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 09:06 PM (qP3+D)
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Don't know if you've already posted this, but it's a great closing debate speech by Milo and very inspiring for boys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDn-xvvhSIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDn-xvvhSIk
Posted by: Carrie at October 25, 2016 09:06 PM (3XZm3)
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Trouncing males academically? What's the breakdown in STEM disciplines?
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at October 25, 2016 09:06 PM (J8/9G)
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We're gonna hit golf balls. Alpha says - you feeling Cofident? Beta says - nah Bro. It's just for fun.
Posted by: The Real Husbands of Orange County at October 25, 2016 09:07 PM (Blp1s)
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Are females trouncing males academically? Or are they just trouncing them at repeating what professors want to hear?
Posted by: Willy J.
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It's a good question and one that occurred to me as I was writing this.
My father taught at a university for most of his career. His observation was that women were better at following specific instructions and men were better problem solvers.
Posted by: Willy J.
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It's a good question and one that occurred to me as I was writing this.
My father taught at a university for most of his career. His observation was that women were better at following specific instructions and men were better problem solvers.
Posted by: Warden at October 25, 2016 09:07 PM (MZ8Zz)
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Never heard of "Wild at Heart" till this thread. Just googled it and it sounds compelling.
Posted by: Max Power at October 25, 2016 09:07 PM (q177U)
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Such a good post. Kudos, man. Kudos.
I've been railing against this very thing for a decade now. Not because I hate girls. I have no kids of my own but I have a niece whom I adore and would end the sun if it made her smile. But I have watched what you describe happen systematically over the past two decades. We should never lift one group up at the expense of another. Women have been empowered for generations, yet we act like we are somehow just breaking through the clouds of oppression and one day soon, girls will be free!
They act that way while Miley Cyrus grinds a panda bear half naked on stage at the VMAs.
And it's a sad world where men are taught to be women. Why, a world like that would be easy to subdue, since men who don't know how to be men are less likely to fight on the way to a cage.
Feminist teachers create emasculated boys. Men grow up pansies. Women look for men, because no one wants a pansy. Can't find one. Woman complain than men are pansies and shut ins who don't know how to do anything scary, like ask a girl out. Woman cheer for feminists because, go girl!
I've been railing against this very thing for a decade now. Not because I hate girls. I have no kids of my own but I have a niece whom I adore and would end the sun if it made her smile. But I have watched what you describe happen systematically over the past two decades. We should never lift one group up at the expense of another. Women have been empowered for generations, yet we act like we are somehow just breaking through the clouds of oppression and one day soon, girls will be free!
They act that way while Miley Cyrus grinds a panda bear half naked on stage at the VMAs.
And it's a sad world where men are taught to be women. Why, a world like that would be easy to subdue, since men who don't know how to be men are less likely to fight on the way to a cage.
Feminist teachers create emasculated boys. Men grow up pansies. Women look for men, because no one wants a pansy. Can't find one. Woman complain than men are pansies and shut ins who don't know how to do anything scary, like ask a girl out. Woman cheer for feminists because, go girl!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:08 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Methos at October 25, 2016 09:08 PM (3Liv/)
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The Big Lie
-- obamacare is just great
-- partial birth abortions aren't a thing
-- obama cut the deficit in half
-- the unemployment rate 5%
-- "Syrian" "refugees" are vetted
-- Indoctrination in schools is also not a thing
The Big Lie
-- obamacare is just great
-- partial birth abortions aren't a thing
-- obama cut the deficit in half
-- the unemployment rate 5%
-- "Syrian" "refugees" are vetted
-- Indoctrination in schools is also not a thing
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2016 09:09 PM (qP3+D)
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Make sure your boys read the classics. Illiad, Odyssy, Song of Roland, Huck Finn, Lord of the Rings, etc. The more that they're exposed to the stories of masculine men, the more they'll be able to rely on those stories as guides when things get rough.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:11 PM (aL3pd)
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If men step out of line in this feminist gynocentric Culture, you run the high risk of having your children taken from you via divorce and/or the State.
And other men refuse to step in and be loud advocates for boys and men because of the feminist gynocentric Culture that will punish them or the fact they are white knights and pussies.
And other men refuse to step in and be loud advocates for boys and men because of the feminist gynocentric Culture that will punish them or the fact they are white knights and pussies.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:11 PM (uzJKG)
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My son isn't a mechanical genius or a great student but he works and plays hard. Starting at a community collage, fixes his own car, fishes and shoots and keeps aquariums. He is 19. I think hes doing well although I was 17 and in bootcamp... so he is not quite up to speed. No we are not hicks we live in the burbs outside of Denver.
Posted by: USNtakim at October 25, 2016 09:11 PM (hMqvx)
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At Trump event:. Black absentee voting is down 37%
Posted by: Jean at October 25, 2016 09:11 PM (ngn8T)
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I have 2 girls, when little if I went to the store and they wanted to wander I would say have it. A few minutes of peace for me. Plus I always knew if they were abducted they would be returned..........
Posted by: Molly k. at October 25, 2016 09:12 PM (B15oO)
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1900-1980 - Boys will be boys
1990-2010 - Boys will be gender neutral
2010-2020 - Boys will be girls
1990-2010 - Boys will be gender neutral
2010-2020 - Boys will be girls
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:13 PM (pUDQf)
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Just a WAG based on life experience and observation, but I don't think whatever we call this absurdly bubble-like control and "safety" for kids these days is linked to small family size.
This trend started before family size had shrunk.
More telling, there was no significant loss rate for kids during the baby boom (economic development, medicine, and vaccines made the experience of prior eras a mere memory), yet families were large, and boys certainly were free and expected to be boys.
I think it's something that snapped in the underlying culture. I know 30-something parents of young kids - the fathers grew up like I did, very free and active, yet now they slip easily/silently into this Huxleyesque prison camp model for kids.
This trend started before family size had shrunk.
More telling, there was no significant loss rate for kids during the baby boom (economic development, medicine, and vaccines made the experience of prior eras a mere memory), yet families were large, and boys certainly were free and expected to be boys.
I think it's something that snapped in the underlying culture. I know 30-something parents of young kids - the fathers grew up like I did, very free and active, yet now they slip easily/silently into this Huxleyesque prison camp model for kids.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2016 09:14 PM (QDnY+)
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Jean, do you have a source for that number? If so, it has to be worrying for Dems.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:14 PM (aL3pd)
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*Need Solutions?*
Blow up your TV throw away your paper
Go to the country, build you a home
Plant a little garden, eat a lot of peaches
Try and find Jesus on your own
-John Prine
Blow up your TV throw away your paper
Go to the country, build you a home
Plant a little garden, eat a lot of peaches
Try and find Jesus on your own
-John Prine
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters... at October 25, 2016 09:14 PM (3myMJ)
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I have 2 girls, when little if I went to the store and they wanted to
wander I would say have it. A few minutes of peace for me. Plus I always
knew if they were abducted they would be returned..........
Posted by: Molly k. at October 25, 2016 09:12 PM (B15oO)
LOL. Please, just take them back!
Reminds me of some of the classic Saturday movies when I was a kid. Wasn't there some movie like the Apple Dumpling Gang or something where a robber kidnapped a young girl and she drove him crazy with all kinds of questions, so he fought through hell to get her home?
I have 2 girls, when little if I went to the store and they wanted to
wander I would say have it. A few minutes of peace for me. Plus I always
knew if they were abducted they would be returned..........
Posted by: Molly k. at October 25, 2016 09:12 PM (B15oO)
LOL. Please, just take them back!
Reminds me of some of the classic Saturday movies when I was a kid. Wasn't there some movie like the Apple Dumpling Gang or something where a robber kidnapped a young girl and she drove him crazy with all kinds of questions, so he fought through hell to get her home?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:14 PM (pUDQf)
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I just finished working with my son on his 3 grade math. I have to say the way they teach subtraction math is bass ackwards. Not sure why they taught it that way.
Posted by: Picric at October 25, 2016 09:15 PM (s0VSd)
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"War on Women?"
"First, grab...."
Hmmmm -- the rest of that did not go where I fully expected it to.
"War on Women?"
"First, grab...."
Hmmmm -- the rest of that did not go where I fully expected it to.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 25, 2016 09:15 PM (kdS6q)
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Government schools.....enough said. You see the big yella bus going here and there picking up people's precious things and taking them to be warehoused in a cesspool for 8 or 9 hours a day then the big yella bus brings back the people's precious things all covered and filled up with the warehouse filth and people do it day after day like it is a good thing.
If the big yella bus did this to people's firearms they would be outraged and 2nd Amendment and all that.
Suffer the poor children.
If the big yella bus did this to people's firearms they would be outraged and 2nd Amendment and all that.
Suffer the poor children.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 25, 2016 09:15 PM (ej1L0)
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I think this is a symptom of the larger breakdown in the relationship between men and women in Western culture. The conflation of granting equal rights to women with the notion that men and women ARE equal has done real damage. Men and women are more different than the same and that's what makes our partnerships that understand that so powerful and productive. One of the major things we have in common though is our default perception of the other gender as a poor example of our own gender. In other words, men are perceived by women as not very good women, and vice versa. We really live in two overlapping realities - for men, reality is physical - for women it's more experiential. Men are their work (which is why it's important for men to have work), and women are their relationships. Of course these are generalizations but useful ones to not forget.
Posted by: Dave at October 25, 2016 09:16 PM (LNakt)
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Women beat, shame and drug the masculinity out of boys. Then they cry that there are no real men any more. They're like the child who murdered his parents begging leniency from the court because he's now an orphan.
Posted by: Insomniac - Broken, No Refunds at October 25, 2016 09:17 PM (0mRoj)
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Make sure your boys read the classics. Illiad, Odyssy, Song of Roland, Huck Finn, Lord of the Rings, etc.
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Robinson Crusoe
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Robinson Crusoe
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 09:17 PM (9Q5BJ)
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A HUGE part of the problem and the main one that needs to be reversed ASAP... IS THE FEMINIST LIE THAT MOTHERS CAN AND SHOULD REPLACE FATHERS.
This is the worst and most failed example of social engineering in history yet nobody speaks up.
It is all about the best interests of the women/mothers/ and the State by extension.
This is the worst and most failed example of social engineering in history yet nobody speaks up.
It is all about the best interests of the women/mothers/ and the State by extension.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:17 PM (uzJKG)
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Plus I always knew if they were abducted they would be returned..........
Posted by: Molly k. at October 25, 2016 09:12 PM (B15oO)
Heh, heh. Is one of them named "Red Chief"?
Posted by: Molly k. at October 25, 2016 09:12 PM (B15oO)
Heh, heh. Is one of them named "Red Chief"?
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at October 25, 2016 09:17 PM (J8/9G)
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Jean - was the absentee voting figure overall, or for a particular state, and was this stated publicly at a campaign rally?
Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2016 09:18 PM (QDnY+)
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As a lurking moronette in a male dominated field (96% dudes), other than giving birth/nursing, and maybe multi-tasking, there are few areas where women out-perform men. Please discuss.
Posted by: busdrivee at October 25, 2016 09:18 PM (q6Qym)
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Government schools.....enough said. You see the big yella bus going here
and there picking up people's precious things and taking them to be
warehoused in a cesspool for 8 or 9 hours a day then the big yella bus
brings back the people's precious things all covered and filled up with
the warehouse filth and people do it day after day like it is a good
thing.
If the big yella bus did this to people's firearms they would be outraged and 2nd Amendment and all that.
Suffer the poor children.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 25, 2016 09:15 PM (ej1L0)
Truth. For some folks, school is necessity to be able to work and put food on the table. But, I know plenty who have said no to public schools and gone home schooling or christian church schools. I imagine that will end soon when Queen Fly gets elected.
Government schools.....enough said. You see the big yella bus going here
and there picking up people's precious things and taking them to be
warehoused in a cesspool for 8 or 9 hours a day then the big yella bus
brings back the people's precious things all covered and filled up with
the warehouse filth and people do it day after day like it is a good
thing.
If the big yella bus did this to people's firearms they would be outraged and 2nd Amendment and all that.
Suffer the poor children.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 25, 2016 09:15 PM (ej1L0)
Truth. For some folks, school is necessity to be able to work and put food on the table. But, I know plenty who have said no to public schools and gone home schooling or christian church schools. I imagine that will end soon when Queen Fly gets elected.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:18 PM (pUDQf)
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Posted by: Jean at October 25, 2016 09:11 PM (ngn8T)
Yeah I saw it was down 23% in North Cackalackey. Awesome
Yeah I saw it was down 23% in North Cackalackey. Awesome
Posted by: F.N.G. at October 25, 2016 09:19 PM (kiSdp)
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On a related note, we think about what we want to teach our boys but we don't always expect what they will teach us. I never wanted boys after having daughters, but my boys have brought us such joy. They have taught us not to take ourselves so seriously. They have let us rediscover the goofy silliness of childhood.
Posted by: Max Power at October 25, 2016 09:19 PM (q177U)
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Rhomboid, stated publicly at event. No breakdown, but they were talking about VA, OH, and PA.
Posted by: Jean at October 25, 2016 09:20 PM (ngn8T)
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I could not believe in the 90s when they push began, whining that girls were being ignored in schools. That they were being pushed back, not being chosen to answer questions, etc.
WHich was just a ridiculous lie. I remember school. All the girls looked like Hermione, bouncing around in their chairs with a hand up as the guys tried to disappear in their desks.
WHich was just a ridiculous lie. I remember school. All the girls looked like Hermione, bouncing around in their chairs with a hand up as the guys tried to disappear in their desks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 25, 2016 09:20 PM (39g3+)
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Make sure your boys read the classics. Illiad, Odyssy, Song of Roland, Huck Finn, Lord of the Rings, etc.
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Robinson Crusoe
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 09:17 PM (9Q5BJ)
Lord of the Flies. The catcher in the rye
Make sure your boys read the classics. Illiad, Odyssy, Song of Roland, Huck Finn, Lord of the Rings, etc.
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Robinson Crusoe
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 09:17 PM (9Q5BJ)
Lord of the Flies. The catcher in the rye
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:20 PM (pUDQf)
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Megain MKelly yelling at Gingrich right now. Newt yelling back.
Posted by: mallfly version 1.00205c at October 25, 2016 09:20 PM (2JQBv)
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Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:14 PM (aL3pd)
GP is where I got my 23% from. One of the commenters.
GP is where I got my 23% from. One of the commenters.
Posted by: F.N.G. at October 25, 2016 09:21 PM (kiSdp)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters... at October 25, 2016 09:21 PM (3myMJ)
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"My son isn't a mechanical genius or a great student but he works and
plays hard. Starting at a community collage, fixes his own car, fishes
and shoots"
I have 2 daughters. It saddens me that their husbands know less about car and home repair than my daughters do. I tried as much as I could to involve my girls in day to day fixing of stuff. They loved it when the were little but put up with it as they got older. One of the few things I did really well with them growing up.
plays hard. Starting at a community collage, fixes his own car, fishes
and shoots"
I have 2 daughters. It saddens me that their husbands know less about car and home repair than my daughters do. I tried as much as I could to involve my girls in day to day fixing of stuff. They loved it when the were little but put up with it as they got older. One of the few things I did really well with them growing up.
Posted by: Willy J. at October 25, 2016 09:21 PM (Ha50C)
61
g'early evenin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 25, 2016 09:21 PM (SZlJt)
62
One of the hardest things about having sons is trying to prepare them to live in a culture and system that hates them just for being male.
Posted by: Insomniac - Broken, No Refunds at October 25, 2016 09:21 PM (0mRoj)
63
Fathers can not be replaced by a Mother. Mothers can not be replaced by a Father. Two "fathers" is not in a childs best interest neither is two "mothers". The best arrangement is one father and one mother. Subversive isn't it....
Posted by: USNtakim at October 25, 2016 09:22 PM (hMqvx)
64
Also, make sure that they know what it means to be a gentleman and how to act. This does not make them a pussy, or a beta male, or a white knight. But knowing how to act means that they take control of their own lives and how they treat others.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:22 PM (aL3pd)
65
Boys throughout history and biologically seek and need affirmation, validation, and confirmation through their fathers. Since the 1960's snowballing since it has been the mothers and the state forcing boys to seek those three things through them. Because of Feminism.
Then when boys grow up they transfer seeking those things through females partners the rest of their lives and will never get it and never mature.
Then when boys grow up they transfer seeking those things through females partners the rest of their lives and will never get it and never mature.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:22 PM (uzJKG)
66
Holy shit! Did you guys just catch Newt and Megyn Kelly going at it?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:22 PM (SEXy3)
Posted by: mallfly version 1.00205c at October 25, 2016 09:22 PM (2JQBv)
68
We could use more radical reactionary men in the public schools. I'm lucky to be in a department where the only men other than my self are coaches, so their politics are tempered by competition. And as a coach, I see a huge need for men who don't curse like sailors and use every program they're in as a stepping stone. Young men need to know you're solid. They need to see commitment.
Posted by: Chris N at October 25, 2016 09:22 PM (jhNNo)
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I think the lack of real men today explains a lot about Trump's support. Not in the way you think, naturally, but in the we gravitate towards someone unafraid to say FU.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:23 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 25, 2016 09:23 PM (3CFdj)
71
Wild at Heart has a huge problem, to me, with the idea of masculinity. He repeatedly mocks the idea of a father being someone who has a duty to make sure that the family is taken care of in his denigration of George Bailey from the movie It's A Wonderful Life. The author spends 2/3 of the book talking about fatherhood and manliness in terms of a cut rate Indiana Jones/Sons of Anarchy member.
While having fun is part of life and a needed thing for all of us, putting one's self in harms way for a thrill, "embracing the wild" I think he called it, is stupid when you have people depending on you to make sure they are clothed, fed and kept safe. That he uses rather dubious theology in the formulation of this, is a problem.
While having fun is part of life and a needed thing for all of us, putting one's self in harms way for a thrill, "embracing the wild" I think he called it, is stupid when you have people depending on you to make sure they are clothed, fed and kept safe. That he uses rather dubious theology in the formulation of this, is a problem.
Posted by: MrScience_ at October 25, 2016 09:25 PM (u4Vgg)
72
I hope Newt told that casting couch cum dumpster to eat shit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 25, 2016 09:26 PM (89T5c)
73
64
Also, make sure that they know what it means to be a gentleman and how
to act. This does not make them a pussy, or a beta male, or a white
knight. But knowing how to act means that they take control of their
own lives and how they treat others.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:22 PM (aL3pd)
+1
I've always said it's like that song, Daddy's Hands. Velvet and stone. Yin and Yang.
Knowing your a man allows you to be a gentleman. Wishing you were a man makes you act an asshole.
Also, make sure that they know what it means to be a gentleman and how
to act. This does not make them a pussy, or a beta male, or a white
knight. But knowing how to act means that they take control of their
own lives and how they treat others.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:22 PM (aL3pd)
+1
I've always said it's like that song, Daddy's Hands. Velvet and stone. Yin and Yang.
Knowing your a man allows you to be a gentleman. Wishing you were a man makes you act an asshole.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:26 PM (pUDQf)
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Lol I'm sure the most accurate place to get absentee numbers is at a Trump rally!
That's about as accurate as Rush saying Carter led Reagan by 9 pts in the final 1980 poll before Election Day! In reality, Reagan had the lead in the final polling by 3-4 pts, due to his Oct 28 debate showing. That was the one and only debate that year.
Rush out and out lied.
That's about as accurate as Rush saying Carter led Reagan by 9 pts in the final 1980 poll before Election Day! In reality, Reagan had the lead in the final polling by 3-4 pts, due to his Oct 28 debate showing. That was the one and only debate that year.
Rush out and out lied.
Posted by: Poll man at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (iakNF)
75
Treasure Island
Moby Dick
Posted by: Meremortal
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30 Seconds Over Tokyo
Johnny Tremain
Moby Dick
Posted by: Meremortal
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30 Seconds Over Tokyo
Johnny Tremain
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (9Q5BJ)
76
Need more males teaching in Preschool and Elementary school and Middle School and High school. Men should be encouraged to join teachers and not just a joke class to fill the role of a football/basketball/baseball coach.
Boys begin to imprint off of males at age 3 to age 6.
The stigma that men that are good with children are pedophiles propagated by hysterical women needs to stop.
Boys begin to imprint off of males at age 3 to age 6.
The stigma that men that are good with children are pedophiles propagated by hysterical women needs to stop.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (uzJKG)
Posted by: Willie Waylon at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (ce4zT)
78
Meagain has some douche general on
Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (P/kVC)
79
It's the POLE man.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (89T5c)
80
After Megyn said of Trump "If he's a sexual predator" Newt lost his shit.
Told her she's obsessed with sex.
Dared her to say the words "Bill Clinton sexual predator"
Her defense for not doing so is that BC isn't running for office.
Told her she's obsessed with sex.
Dared her to say the words "Bill Clinton sexual predator"
Her defense for not doing so is that BC isn't running for office.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (SEXy3)
81
Amen!! My sons bike to school.
Posted by: Scoob at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (eqMu6)
82
74
Lol I'm sure the most accurate place to get absentee numbers is at a Trump rally!
That's about as accurate as Rush saying Carter led Reagan by 9 pts
in the final 1980 poll before Election Day! In reality, Reagan had the
lead in the final polling by 3-4 pts, due to his Oct 28 debate showing.
That was the one and only debate that year.
Rush out and out lied.
Posted by: Poll man at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (iakNF)
Oh, look. Baghdad Bob!
Lol I'm sure the most accurate place to get absentee numbers is at a Trump rally!
That's about as accurate as Rush saying Carter led Reagan by 9 pts
in the final 1980 poll before Election Day! In reality, Reagan had the
lead in the final polling by 3-4 pts, due to his Oct 28 debate showing.
That was the one and only debate that year.
Rush out and out lied.
Posted by: Poll man at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (iakNF)
Oh, look. Baghdad Bob!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (pUDQf)
83
smokem POLE.
Posted by: USNtakim at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (hMqvx)
84
41 I just finished working with my son on his 3 grade math. I have to say the way they teach subtraction math is bass ackwards. Not sure why they taught it that way.
Posted by: Picric at October 25, 2016 09:15 PM (s0VSd)
I have a theory: I think the purpose is to discourage parents from participating in the education of their children. You can't help your kids with schoolwork if you don't understand what the heck they are doing.
When I was growing up, it was set theory. With kids in our local school system, it's lattice multiplication and some weird division algorithm.
All these things are inscrutable to parents, so the school becomes the expert and parents are sidelined.
Posted by: Picric at October 25, 2016 09:15 PM (s0VSd)
I have a theory: I think the purpose is to discourage parents from participating in the education of their children. You can't help your kids with schoolwork if you don't understand what the heck they are doing.
When I was growing up, it was set theory. With kids in our local school system, it's lattice multiplication and some weird division algorithm.
All these things are inscrutable to parents, so the school becomes the expert and parents are sidelined.
Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (xVuS6)
85
Robinson Crusoe
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 09:17 PM (9Q5BJ)
Yup...when I was a little shaver I would climb on the roof of our house and read "Robinson Crusoe" and loved it. Made me think and plan and execute when faced with a problem. Made me want to find adventures wherever they were....
Friday.....what a name.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 09:17 PM (9Q5BJ)
Yup...when I was a little shaver I would climb on the roof of our house and read "Robinson Crusoe" and loved it. Made me think and plan and execute when faced with a problem. Made me want to find adventures wherever they were....
Friday.....what a name.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 25, 2016 09:29 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: zombie at October 25, 2016 09:29 PM (jBuUi)
87
Wild at Heart has a huge problem, to me, with the idea of masculinity. He repeatedly mocks the idea of a father being someone who has a duty to make sure that the family is taken care of in his denigration of George Bailey from the movie It's A Wonderful Life.
++++
never read it, but that is a problem. sounds like flipside first wave feminism actually
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never read it, but that is a problem. sounds like flipside first wave feminism actually
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at October 25, 2016 09:29 PM (U0lQa)
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Her defense for not doing so is that BC isn't running for office.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (SEXy3)
The proper response to that is, "No, the woman who enabled and protected his abhorrent behavior is."
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (SEXy3)
The proper response to that is, "No, the woman who enabled and protected his abhorrent behavior is."
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:29 PM (aL3pd)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 25, 2016 09:29 PM (SZlJt)
90
Heads up, people: I saw this in a sociology textbook I was editing for a major academic publisher, just last year:
"HYPERMASCULINITY is the root cause of RAMPANT INDIVIDUALISM."
Of course, they're only referring to American masculinity.
Unpack this: The sociologists know we're the Land of the Free Because of the Brave. They want to rule over us all. Therefore, they want to cut your nuts off.
And furthermore: their excuses for hating on boys and men aren't the real reason they hate you. Look at what they actually denigrate:
--Physical courage.
--Individualism.
--Logic.
--Concrete achievement.
--Technology.
[Quite often, people hate you for what's good about you; not for what's bad about you -- see, e.g., the moslems' hatred of Christendom.]
"HYPERMASCULINITY is the root cause of RAMPANT INDIVIDUALISM."
Of course, they're only referring to American masculinity.
Unpack this: The sociologists know we're the Land of the Free Because of the Brave. They want to rule over us all. Therefore, they want to cut your nuts off.
And furthermore: their excuses for hating on boys and men aren't the real reason they hate you. Look at what they actually denigrate:
--Physical courage.
--Individualism.
--Logic.
--Concrete achievement.
--Technology.
[Quite often, people hate you for what's good about you; not for what's bad about you -- see, e.g., the moslems' hatred of Christendom.]
Posted by: Beverly at October 25, 2016 09:29 PM (6xK61)
91
80
After Megyn said of Trump "If he's a sexual predator" Newt lost his shit.
Told her she's obsessed with sex.
Dared her to say the words "Bill Clinton sexual predator"
Her defense for not doing so is that BC isn't running for office.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (SEXy3)
was that tonight? i just got home and have the game on......
After Megyn said of Trump "If he's a sexual predator" Newt lost his shit.
Told her she's obsessed with sex.
Dared her to say the words "Bill Clinton sexual predator"
Her defense for not doing so is that BC isn't running for office.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (SEXy3)
was that tonight? i just got home and have the game on......
Posted by: phoenixgirl, gird up your loins, this is not the time to go wobbly at October 25, 2016 09:30 PM (0O7c5)
92
Boys are seen as defective girls in our schools. The American Psychiatric Association says that ADHD affects 5% of the population, but 15% to 20% of the kids are diagnosed as such. But nobody admits the obvious--a lot of misdiagnoses. We see each day the affects of leftist ideology every day. I'm raising a couple of nephews and a niece, so I've been thrust back into the morass. So much of our lives are now controlled by ideas that have been disproven for decades. But those failed concepts become policies and bureaucrats come and go and never question the status quo.
Posted by: IanDeal at October 25, 2016 09:30 PM (teGBX)
93
I have a theory: I think the purpose is to discourage parents from participating in the education of their children. You can't help your kids with schoolwork if you don't understand what the heck they are doing.
When I was growing up, it was set theory. With kids in our local school system, it's lattice multiplication and some weird division algorithm.
All these things are inscrutable to parents, so the school becomes the expert and parents are sidelined.
Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (xVuS6)
I blame the urge to send everyone to college. Everything is geared towards it and teachers and bureaucrats got this fantasy that they were teaching young geniuses so they changed up the curriculum.
I have a theory: I think the purpose is to discourage parents from participating in the education of their children. You can't help your kids with schoolwork if you don't understand what the heck they are doing.
When I was growing up, it was set theory. With kids in our local school system, it's lattice multiplication and some weird division algorithm.
All these things are inscrutable to parents, so the school becomes the expert and parents are sidelined.
Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (xVuS6)
I blame the urge to send everyone to college. Everything is geared towards it and teachers and bureaucrats got this fantasy that they were teaching young geniuses so they changed up the curriculum.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:31 PM (aL3pd)
94
who's bitch is this?
***
Ahem.
It is properly asked, "Who bitch this is?"
More Shakespearean, no?
***
Ahem.
It is properly asked, "Who bitch this is?"
More Shakespearean, no?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:31 PM (SEXy3)
95
Constitutional admendment that children are the property of both parents as a natural right.
The idea that children do not belong to the parents as a natural right is absolutely insane
Contiutional admendment to shared parenting.
RICO the Family Courts.
The idea that children do not belong to the parents as a natural right is absolutely insane
Contiutional admendment to shared parenting.
RICO the Family Courts.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:31 PM (uzJKG)
96
I have two teenage sons, 15 & 17, and we live in the middle of town. My husband and I taught them how to navigate the streets and they both had grand adventures riding bikes. Though finding friends whose parents would allow this when they came over proved a challenge. My kids had school friends who they never invited over as parents would demand that their child not ride bikes. Seriously.
And now to kick all of you guys' parenting butts, we're all headed to the Angola Prison Rodeo this weekend.
And now to kick all of you guys' parenting butts, we're all headed to the Angola Prison Rodeo this weekend.
Posted by: KinLa at October 25, 2016 09:31 PM (hLsQ6)
97
I hope Newt told that casting couch cum dumpster to eat shit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 25, 2016 09:26 PM (89T5c)
HEY! That's my job.
I hope Newt told that casting couch cum dumpster to eat shit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 25, 2016 09:26 PM (89T5c)
HEY! That's my job.
Posted by: GEN John Allen at October 25, 2016 09:31 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:31 PM (SEXy3)
99
Also, make sure that they know what it means to be a gentleman and how to act. This does not make them a pussy, or a beta male, or a white knight. But knowing how to act means that they take control of their own lives and how they treat others.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:22 PM (aL3pd)
"A gentleman's manners are an integral part of him and are the same whether in his dressing-room or in a ballroom, whether in talking to Mrs. Worldly or to the laundress bringing in his clothes. He whose manners are only put on in company is a veneered gentleman, not a real one."
Emily Post, "Etiquette" Chapter 29 (1922). A book that can still be usefully read.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:22 PM (aL3pd)
"A gentleman's manners are an integral part of him and are the same whether in his dressing-room or in a ballroom, whether in talking to Mrs. Worldly or to the laundress bringing in his clothes. He whose manners are only put on in company is a veneered gentleman, not a real one."
Emily Post, "Etiquette" Chapter 29 (1922). A book that can still be usefully read.
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at October 25, 2016 09:32 PM (J8/9G)
100
Thanks, Beverly, very interesting.
Not surprising, but very interesting.
There's such a sickening, dreary, blood-drenched European connotation to "rampant individualism".
Not surprising, but very interesting.
There's such a sickening, dreary, blood-drenched European connotation to "rampant individualism".
Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2016 09:32 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2016 09:32 PM (IqV8l)
102
Kodos, exactly.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:32 PM (aL3pd)
103
The stigma that men that are good with children are pedophiles propagated by hysterical women needs to stop.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (uzJKG)
Something else that infuriates me. Especially being a child-less male. I hate even being around other people's kids because of it. I hate this shit with a passion. The idea that only men with kids are not pedophiles. I remember reading some article on this where the author described how he would hesitate to help a lost child in a mall for fear of someone accusing him of being a monster. What a sick world we've created.
The stigma that men that are good with children are pedophiles propagated by hysterical women needs to stop.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (uzJKG)
Something else that infuriates me. Especially being a child-less male. I hate even being around other people's kids because of it. I hate this shit with a passion. The idea that only men with kids are not pedophiles. I remember reading some article on this where the author described how he would hesitate to help a lost child in a mall for fear of someone accusing him of being a monster. What a sick world we've created.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:32 PM (pUDQf)
104
I'd love to teach Elementary School Science.
But my observations of school hiring is that males with merit and gravitas are not wanted. Young, loyal females with SJW pedigrees are.
You should have seen the Superintendent of one of the largest schools in the state learn I was Chairman and quizmaster of a Constitution Bee effort. It was like I was a pedophile with his own children.
But my observations of school hiring is that males with merit and gravitas are not wanted. Young, loyal females with SJW pedigrees are.
You should have seen the Superintendent of one of the largest schools in the state learn I was Chairman and quizmaster of a Constitution Bee effort. It was like I was a pedophile with his own children.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 25, 2016 09:33 PM (u82oZ)
105
NDH thanks for the correction on that phrase. I've been itching to do that but was too lazy. Even though I never watched the original video clip from which it sprang.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2016 09:34 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: 80's music fan at October 25, 2016 09:35 PM (PHcLa)
Posted by: Infidel at October 25, 2016 09:35 PM (sOAz7)
108
The response to this disparity, of course, is to label boy's superior SAT scores to, you guessed it, gender biased testing that favors boys.
It cannot be the case that boys are better at something. Boys are never better at anything.
To zeroth order, the prime directive for women is to bear and raise children.
That for men is to protect and provide for same.
I denounce myself.*
*But in my defense note that something like 50% (IIRC) of female MDs stand down from practicing medicine within 10 years of being certified, primarily because they prefer to spend time with their children. A rational observer would consider their education to have been a waste of resources.
It cannot be the case that boys are better at something. Boys are never better at anything.
To zeroth order, the prime directive for women is to bear and raise children.
That for men is to protect and provide for same.
I denounce myself.*
*But in my defense note that something like 50% (IIRC) of female MDs stand down from practicing medicine within 10 years of being certified, primarily because they prefer to spend time with their children. A rational observer would consider their education to have been a waste of resources.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 09:36 PM (SRKgf)
109
Emmie You are exactly right. We suffered through "everyday math" with our youngest child. They called it that here in Massachusetts so people wouldn't realize it was common core math This was years before common core was adopted here.
Had to tell the teachers that she was not allowed to do the bullshit "lattice" long division and all the other stupid tricks they were using. 3 years later she when they had basically abandoned the program she was the onlly student who could "do math the old fashioned way"
She struggles with math and this program was a disaster. No need to do basic math tables. Don't worry parents it's a "spiral " program. If your kid didn't catch it first time around we spiral back to that skill and maybe they will understand it then.
Had to tell the teachers that she was not allowed to do the bullshit "lattice" long division and all the other stupid tricks they were using. 3 years later she when they had basically abandoned the program she was the onlly student who could "do math the old fashioned way"
She struggles with math and this program was a disaster. No need to do basic math tables. Don't worry parents it's a "spiral " program. If your kid didn't catch it first time around we spiral back to that skill and maybe they will understand it then.
Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 25, 2016 09:36 PM (3CFdj)
110
AlaBAMA, that's a good point. Has never happened to me (the outrageous, implied presumption that I could not be trusted around kids), but it did, I'm pretty sure I would set aside my 24/7 facade I keep to be civil with so many idiots. And nuke them with 50 megatons of fury.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2016 09:36 PM (QDnY+)
111
I've raised my sons and now try to play the role my Grandfathers did for me...I'm the one to let them shoot the big guns, use a pocket knife and such madness that would create issues if Dad did it - my daughter and daughter-in-law already know I'm crazy and that I would die before I let the kiddos get seriously hurt. So they get to ride in the back of the truck on a buddy's ranch and as much as possible do the things I did growing up. Bonus is how much it pisses off my tree hugging neighbors...
Posted by: jestersix at October 25, 2016 09:36 PM (0NdPS)
112
Gen Allen proves the Peter Principle and that truly shit can be stacked 6 ft high.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 25, 2016 09:37 PM (89T5c)
113
I am so thankful my grandson is living in a home and has male relatives and friends that are not afraid to exhibit testosterone to counteract all this bs.
Posted by: Infidel at October 25, 2016 09:37 PM (sOAz7)
114
*But in my defense note that something like 50% (IIRC) of female MDs stand down from practicing medicine within 10 years of being certified, primarily because they prefer to spend time with their children. A rational observer would consider their education to have been a waste of resources.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Did they not provide a service during the 10 years?
*But in my defense note that something like 50% (IIRC) of female MDs stand down from practicing medicine within 10 years of being certified, primarily because they prefer to spend time with their children. A rational observer would consider their education to have been a waste of resources.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Did they not provide a service during the 10 years?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2016 09:37 PM (IqV8l)
115
90 Heads up, people: I saw this in a sociology textbook I was editing for a major academic publisher, just last year:
"HYPERMASCULINITY is the root cause of RAMPANT INDIVIDUALISM."
Of course, they're only referring to American masculinity.
Unpack this: The sociologists know we're the Land of the Free Because of the Brave. They want to rule over us all. Therefore, they want to cut your nuts off.
And furthermore: their excuses for hating on boys and men aren't the real reason they hate you. Look at what they actually denigrate:
--Physical courage.
--Individualism.
--Logic.
--Concrete achievement.
--Technology.
[Quite often, people hate you for what's good about you; not for what's bad about you -- see, e.g., the moslems' hatred of Christendom.]
Posted by: Beverly
This is important, because what begins in academia leaks into the mainstream. The leakage process used to take decades -- now it takes just years -- and soon it will take just months.
Expect the mainstream/SJW axis to start overtly criticizing "individualism" soon.
Next up: Ayn Rand's Anthem finally becomes true.
"HYPERMASCULINITY is the root cause of RAMPANT INDIVIDUALISM."
Of course, they're only referring to American masculinity.
Unpack this: The sociologists know we're the Land of the Free Because of the Brave. They want to rule over us all. Therefore, they want to cut your nuts off.
And furthermore: their excuses for hating on boys and men aren't the real reason they hate you. Look at what they actually denigrate:
--Physical courage.
--Individualism.
--Logic.
--Concrete achievement.
--Technology.
[Quite often, people hate you for what's good about you; not for what's bad about you -- see, e.g., the moslems' hatred of Christendom.]
Posted by: Beverly
This is important, because what begins in academia leaks into the mainstream. The leakage process used to take decades -- now it takes just years -- and soon it will take just months.
Expect the mainstream/SJW axis to start overtly criticizing "individualism" soon.
Next up: Ayn Rand's Anthem finally becomes true.
Posted by: zombie at October 25, 2016 09:37 PM (jBuUi)
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"Need more males teaching in Preschool and Elementary school and Middle School and High school."
We need more doers teaching all kinds of things. A male or female with some real life experience has got to be better than a BS in education in almost any class. Hell all the way through elementary school. Do teachers need a degree? But no matter how good they are with kids they are not allowed to be teachers without that degree.
We need more doers teaching all kinds of things. A male or female with some real life experience has got to be better than a BS in education in almost any class. Hell all the way through elementary school. Do teachers need a degree? But no matter how good they are with kids they are not allowed to be teachers without that degree.
Posted by: Willy J. at October 25, 2016 09:38 PM (Ha50C)
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65 Boys throughout history and biologically seek and need affirmation, validation, and confirmation through their fathers. Since the 1960's snowballing since it has been the mothers and the state forcing boys to seek those three things through them. Because of Feminism.
Then when boys grow up they transfer seeking those things through females partners the rest of their lives and will never get it and never mature.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:22 PM (uzJKG)
There's an astounding amount of truth in this. Holy shit.
Then when boys grow up they transfer seeking those things through females partners the rest of their lives and will never get it and never mature.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:22 PM (uzJKG)
There's an astounding amount of truth in this. Holy shit.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:38 PM (0mRoj)
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I blame the urge to send everyone to college. Everything is geared towards it and teachers and bureaucrats got this fantasy that they were teaching young geniuses so they changed up the curriculum.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:31 PM (aL3pd)
Heh. I wish this convoluted baloney did produce young geniuses.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 25, 2016 09:31 PM (aL3pd)
Heh. I wish this convoluted baloney did produce young geniuses.
Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 09:38 PM (xVuS6)
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I remember reading some article on this where the author described how he would hesitate to help a lost child in a mall for fear of someone accusing him of being a monster. What a sick world we've created.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:32 PM (pUDQf)
IMO, a man would have to be out of his mind to help a lost child anywhere, at any time, for just this reason. The allegation alone would suffice to ruin his life, because it's one of the cases where the gravity of allegation trumps all.
I helped coach a Pop Warner team, but when a kid got injured, I regretfully declined to take him to the hospital, for just that reason.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:32 PM (pUDQf)
IMO, a man would have to be out of his mind to help a lost child anywhere, at any time, for just this reason. The allegation alone would suffice to ruin his life, because it's one of the cases where the gravity of allegation trumps all.
I helped coach a Pop Warner team, but when a kid got injured, I regretfully declined to take him to the hospital, for just that reason.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 09:39 PM (SRKgf)
120
Gen Allen proves the Peter Principle and that truly shit can be stacked 6 ft high.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 25, 2016 09:37 PM (89T5c)
He thinks Courtney Massengale is a role model.
Gen Allen proves the Peter Principle and that truly shit can be stacked 6 ft high.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 25, 2016 09:37 PM (89T5c)
He thinks Courtney Massengale is a role model.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 25, 2016 09:39 PM (P/kVC)
121
Cleveland up 3 -- 0.
Posted by: eleven at October 25, 2016 09:40 PM (qUNWi)
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"Secondly, I think we need to actively and purposefully encourage
masculinity in our boys. Men, particularly, should be aware that every
single day they are modeling what it means to be a man to their
sons--how you interact with your wife, your reaction to problems, your
physical and mental toughness, your ability to problem solve, and your
strength and courage in navigating life."
You, sir, are a genius.
I have an 11-yr-old son, and it is hard as hell to push back at our societal morons who see normal and healthy boyish endeavors as pathologies that need to be stamped out. But we do.
masculinity in our boys. Men, particularly, should be aware that every
single day they are modeling what it means to be a man to their
sons--how you interact with your wife, your reaction to problems, your
physical and mental toughness, your ability to problem solve, and your
strength and courage in navigating life."
You, sir, are a genius.
I have an 11-yr-old son, and it is hard as hell to push back at our societal morons who see normal and healthy boyish endeavors as pathologies that need to be stamped out. But we do.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 25, 2016 09:40 PM (+O9YB)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 25, 2016 09:40 PM (dtWKK)
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Rush out and out lied.
Posted by: Poll man at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (iakNF)
You forgot to call him an addict too.
I am so GLAD someone SAID that, I couldn't BEAR to think that on my OWN!
You are SO right and SO correct. I ESCHEW Rush from now on and will only listen to SAVAGE.
I THANK you for showing me the WAY and GIVING me PERMISSION to listen to the one TRUE American who SAYS it as it IS!!!11!!11
SAVAGE SAVAGE SAVAGE SAVAGE SAVAGE SAVAGE!
Posted by: Poll man at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (iakNF)
You forgot to call him an addict too.
I am so GLAD someone SAID that, I couldn't BEAR to think that on my OWN!
You are SO right and SO correct. I ESCHEW Rush from now on and will only listen to SAVAGE.
I THANK you for showing me the WAY and GIVING me PERMISSION to listen to the one TRUE American who SAYS it as it IS!!!11!!11
SAVAGE SAVAGE SAVAGE SAVAGE SAVAGE SAVAGE!
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbert-Kline at October 25, 2016 09:40 PM (lPUaT)
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Heh. I wish this convoluted baloney did produce young geniuses.
Posted by: Emmie
Well, if you define genius down...
Heh. I wish this convoluted baloney did produce young geniuses.
Posted by: Emmie
Well, if you define genius down...
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2016 09:40 PM (IqV8l)
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It is properly asked, "Who bitch this is?"
More Shakespearean, no?
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No, that's:
"Who bitch beith this?"
More Shakespearean, no?
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No, that's:
"Who bitch beith this?"
Posted by: Methos at October 25, 2016 09:41 PM (3Liv/)
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I see a huge need for men who don't curse like sailors and use every program they're in as a stepping stone. Young men need to know you're solid. They need to see commitment.
Posted by: Chris
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heh. I took an English Lit course with a terrific Professor. He lectured without notes, didn't need them. Also, he was the wrestling coach. A refined man, and yet, the vocabulary and character of a DI when the situation called for it.
Posted by: Chris
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heh. I took an English Lit course with a terrific Professor. He lectured without notes, didn't need them. Also, he was the wrestling coach. A refined man, and yet, the vocabulary and character of a DI when the situation called for it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 25, 2016 09:41 PM (9Q5BJ)
128
some article on this where the author described how he would hesitate to help a lost child in a mall for fear of someone accusing him of being a monster
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the kids themselves are programmed to see you as such.. i don't blame them or their parents though. there's a lot of sickness out there
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the kids themselves are programmed to see you as such.. i don't blame them or their parents though. there's a lot of sickness out there
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at October 25, 2016 09:41 PM (U0lQa)
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I have a theory: I think the purpose is to discourage parents from participating in the education of their children. You can't help your kids with schoolwork if you don't understand what the heck they are doing.
When I was growing up, it was set theory. With kids in our local school system, it's lattice multiplication and some weird division algorithm.
All these things are inscrutable to parents, so the school becomes the expert and parents are sidelined.
Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (xVuS6)
I think that's part of it. The result of it is it takes smart kids who are eager to learn and reduces them to tears and frustration because they're being fed bullshit that's almost impossible to learn. I've looked at my kids' math assignments and how they were told to approach them, said "fuck this bullshit" (to myself), said "this is idiotic, let me show you how to actually solve the problem" and proceeded to teach them the method that most directly and understandably solves the goddamn problem instead of going through 38 extraneous steps to solve a fucking multiplication or long division problem.
When I was growing up, it was set theory. With kids in our local school system, it's lattice multiplication and some weird division algorithm.
All these things are inscrutable to parents, so the school becomes the expert and parents are sidelined.
Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 09:28 PM (xVuS6)
I think that's part of it. The result of it is it takes smart kids who are eager to learn and reduces them to tears and frustration because they're being fed bullshit that's almost impossible to learn. I've looked at my kids' math assignments and how they were told to approach them, said "fuck this bullshit" (to myself), said "this is idiotic, let me show you how to actually solve the problem" and proceeded to teach them the method that most directly and understandably solves the goddamn problem instead of going through 38 extraneous steps to solve a fucking multiplication or long division problem.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:42 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:42 PM (SEXy3)
131
Stephen(STEPHANIE)Hayes has sand in his pussy because Newt tore into MeAgain Keely
Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2016 09:42 PM (y3aQB)
132
One's son should know what a "catamite" is and how to avoid becoming one!
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at October 25, 2016 09:42 PM (kP16F)
133
We suffered through "everyday math" with our youngest child. They called it that here in Massachusetts so people wouldn't realize it was common core math This was years before common core was adopted here.
Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 25, 2016 09:36 PM (3CFdj)
Yep, it was "Everyday Math" here in Colorado as well. Produced a bunch of kids with extremely weak computation skills.
Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 25, 2016 09:36 PM (3CFdj)
Yep, it was "Everyday Math" here in Colorado as well. Produced a bunch of kids with extremely weak computation skills.
Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 09:43 PM (xVuS6)
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Books books. Anything by Edgar Rice Burroughs or Louis L'Amour or Max Brand.
And speaking of which. The latest Tarzan movie is the best I've ever seen. Very true to the character and tone in the way that ERB wrote them. Hate hate hate that a-hole Saml L Ja;kson, but he was good int he movie. It was nicely similar to the disney cartoon version, but only in ways that are respectful and kind of give a tip of the hat. Specifically the treehouse and some of the in-tree movement of the characters.
And speaking of which. The latest Tarzan movie is the best I've ever seen. Very true to the character and tone in the way that ERB wrote them. Hate hate hate that a-hole Saml L Ja;kson, but he was good int he movie. It was nicely similar to the disney cartoon version, but only in ways that are respectful and kind of give a tip of the hat. Specifically the treehouse and some of the in-tree movement of the characters.
Posted by: Mephitis Texit Texit Texit at October 25, 2016 09:43 PM (fgzLM)
135
Just want to say, warden, that your posts on marriage and child raising are excellent and wise.
Posted by: stace...TEXIT at October 25, 2016 09:44 PM (ozZau)
136
Oddly enough, even though my husband is, indeed, a man's man, he is the one who thinks we need a tighter rein on the boy. I am quite willing to let him roam the neighborhood with a buddy and smack things with sticks, float stuff in the creek, throw rocks into the pond and generally do boy stuff, but my husband thinks he will get into trouble, be abducted or commit some horrible crime (well, he might, but that's a different story).
Of course, I grew up in Alaska, so I am free-range by nature. No old construction pile ever went unmolested in my neck of the woods. We would ride all the way downtown to go to the library (radical concept,I know) by the time we were 8 or 9. Admittedly, I got flashed there once, but mostly I just pointed and laughed. It was funny.
I don't know how kids survive being programmed 24/7/365. I would have blown a gasket.
Of course, I grew up in Alaska, so I am free-range by nature. No old construction pile ever went unmolested in my neck of the woods. We would ride all the way downtown to go to the library (radical concept,I know) by the time we were 8 or 9. Admittedly, I got flashed there once, but mostly I just pointed and laughed. It was funny.
I don't know how kids survive being programmed 24/7/365. I would have blown a gasket.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:44 PM (cm1Bl)
137
103
The stigma that men that are good with children are pedophiles propagated by hysterical women needs to stop.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (uzJKG)
Something else that infuriates me. Especially being a child-less male. I hate even being around other people's kids because of it. I hate this shit with a passion. The idea that only men with kids are not pedophiles. I remember reading some article on this where the author described how he would hesitate to help a lost child in a mall for fear of someone accusing him of being a monster. What a sick world we've created.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:32 PM (pUDQf)
It's all bullshit and harms boys.
Until men and women who are not feminists stands up to the State/feminists/white knights/tribal females and demand change nothing will happen.
Why will people not take a stand? Because the State is weaponized to destroy the dissent by targeting your children.
The point of passive resistance left in the 1990's. What is happing to out boys and children are acts of war by the State and their agents.
It's worth 10's of billions of dollars a year to destroy boys by brainwashing them to be docile servants to women and the State.
The stigma that men that are good with children are pedophiles propagated by hysterical women needs to stop.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (uzJKG)
Something else that infuriates me. Especially being a child-less male. I hate even being around other people's kids because of it. I hate this shit with a passion. The idea that only men with kids are not pedophiles. I remember reading some article on this where the author described how he would hesitate to help a lost child in a mall for fear of someone accusing him of being a monster. What a sick world we've created.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:32 PM (pUDQf)
It's all bullshit and harms boys.
Until men and women who are not feminists stands up to the State/feminists/white knights/tribal females and demand change nothing will happen.
Why will people not take a stand? Because the State is weaponized to destroy the dissent by targeting your children.
The point of passive resistance left in the 1990's. What is happing to out boys and children are acts of war by the State and their agents.
It's worth 10's of billions of dollars a year to destroy boys by brainwashing them to be docile servants to women and the State.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:44 PM (uzJKG)
138
Rush out and out lied.
Posted by: Poll man at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (iakNF)
How is the overtime pay? I could use an extra job?
Posted by: Poll man at October 25, 2016 09:27 PM (iakNF)
How is the overtime pay? I could use an extra job?
Posted by: Infidel [i/] at October 25, 2016 09:45 PM (sOAz7)
139
Another point I really want to throw out there: the Leftists are really, really slavering to have us women and you men hate each other. Then they step in between us and Take Command. Of everything. Including our children.
Women have played a big role in the "feminizing" process, but men have let women get away with it, too. My dearest wish is that we all take a deep breath and a step back, and turn to look at our Real enemies -- then join forces and attack them together. Reunite the great Yin and Yang, and have at 'em!
Women have played a big role in the "feminizing" process, but men have let women get away with it, too. My dearest wish is that we all take a deep breath and a step back, and turn to look at our Real enemies -- then join forces and attack them together. Reunite the great Yin and Yang, and have at 'em!
Posted by: Beverly at October 25, 2016 09:45 PM (6xK61)
140
@30:
Those are big lies.
A couple of even bigger ones:
"Of course, I'll still respect you in the morning".
And, the ABSOLUTE WINNER:
"Hello, I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you".
Those are big lies.
A couple of even bigger ones:
"Of course, I'll still respect you in the morning".
And, the ABSOLUTE WINNER:
"Hello, I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you".
Posted by: Bruce at October 25, 2016 09:45 PM (nIUnC)
141
Did they not provide a service during the 10 years?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2016 09:37 PM (IqV8l)
Yes, but the expectancy here was closer to 30-40 years. If you bought a car, and it crapped out after a year, would you consider that to have been a good use of resources?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2016 09:37 PM (IqV8l)
Yes, but the expectancy here was closer to 30-40 years. If you bought a car, and it crapped out after a year, would you consider that to have been a good use of resources?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 09:45 PM (SRKgf)
142
I am a catamite!
Posted by: Stephen Hayes at October 25, 2016 09:45 PM (89T5c)
143
well shit.
Posted by: Infidel at October 25, 2016 09:45 PM (sOAz7)
144
I will fund research to perfect parthenogenesis.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 25, 2016 09:46 PM (dtWKK)
145
We need more part time teachers who are actually in the work force. I could spring a 2hr block to teach a science or math course once a week.
Posted by: Jean at October 25, 2016 09:46 PM (ngn8T)
146
I have to admire poll man for being able to type while giving John Podesta a beejer.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:46 PM (0mRoj)
147
No kidding. The whole point to sending kids out to explore is to get the friggin energy out of them. They are mini nuclear reactors. Keeping all that bottled and coddled up is a recipe for disaster.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:46 PM (pUDQf)
148
Check out the Good Men Project. You'll...love...it.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey at October 25, 2016 09:46 PM (lePNR)
149
let me show you how to actually solve the problem" and proceeded to teach them the method that most directly and understandably solves the goddamn problem instead of going through 38 extraneous steps to solve a fucking multiplication or long division problem.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:42 PM (0mRoj)
Last year, the boy failed math. Common core crapola.
This year he is a math rock star. Same book, but this year's teacher thinks that if he solves it, he solves it, and method be damned.
I taught him long divison two years ago. He is already ahead of his peers who are learning all the "tricks" but not the substance.
My boss asked him what his favorite subject in school is this year: math.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:42 PM (0mRoj)
Last year, the boy failed math. Common core crapola.
This year he is a math rock star. Same book, but this year's teacher thinks that if he solves it, he solves it, and method be damned.
I taught him long divison two years ago. He is already ahead of his peers who are learning all the "tricks" but not the substance.
My boss asked him what his favorite subject in school is this year: math.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:47 PM (cm1Bl)
150
IMO, a man would have to be out of his mind to help a lost child anywhere, at any time, for just this reason. The allegation alone would suffice to ruin his life, because it's one of the cases where the gravity of allegation trumps all.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 09:39 PM (SRKgf)
The State wants us to no longer be able to rely on each other.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 09:39 PM (SRKgf)
The State wants us to no longer be able to rely on each other.
Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 09:48 PM (xVuS6)
151
Remember Ace's post about the new trend will be that the scientific method is toxic and male.
The new scientific method should be subjective.
That will be taught to our boys and children.
There are no wrong answers as long as you can explain how you got there.
The new scientific method should be subjective.
That will be taught to our boys and children.
There are no wrong answers as long as you can explain how you got there.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:48 PM (uzJKG)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:48 PM (SEXy3)
Posted by: Jean at October 25, 2016 09:48 PM (ngn8T)
154
139 Another point I really want to throw out there: the Leftists are really, really slavering to have us women and you men hate each other. Then they step in between us and Take Command. Of everything. Including our children.
Women have played a big role in the "feminizing" process, but men have let women get away with it, too. My dearest wish is that we all take a deep breath and a step back, and turn to look at our Real enemies -- then join forces and attack them together. Reunite the great Yin and Yang, and have at 'em!
Posted by: Beverly at October 25, 2016 09:45 PM (6xK61)
Men have done this for the purpose of getting women's votes, an unintended consequence of the 19th Amendment.
Women have played a big role in the "feminizing" process, but men have let women get away with it, too. My dearest wish is that we all take a deep breath and a step back, and turn to look at our Real enemies -- then join forces and attack them together. Reunite the great Yin and Yang, and have at 'em!
Posted by: Beverly at October 25, 2016 09:45 PM (6xK61)
Men have done this for the purpose of getting women's votes, an unintended consequence of the 19th Amendment.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:48 PM (0mRoj)
155
Remember Ace's post about the new trend will be that the scientific method is toxic and male.
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Was it here that I read about the claims that science, itself, is misogynistic?
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Was it here that I read about the claims that science, itself, is misogynistic?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:49 PM (SEXy3)
156
Last year, the boy failed math. Common core crapola.
This year he is a math rock star. Same book, but this year's teacher thinks that if he solves it, he solves it, and method be damned.
I taught him long divison two years ago. He is already ahead of his peers who are learning all the "tricks" but not the substance.
My boss asked him what his favorite subject in school is this year: math.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:47 PM (cm1Bl)
Excellent.
This year he is a math rock star. Same book, but this year's teacher thinks that if he solves it, he solves it, and method be damned.
I taught him long divison two years ago. He is already ahead of his peers who are learning all the "tricks" but not the substance.
My boss asked him what his favorite subject in school is this year: math.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:47 PM (cm1Bl)
Excellent.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:49 PM (0mRoj)
157
Reunite the great Yin and Yang, and have at 'em!
Posted by: Beverly at October 25, 2016 09:45 PM (6xK61)
Sounds, oddly, Catholic.
My husband, who converted long after we were married, noted with some satisfaction that the priest who married us told him that if he didn't provide sex on a regular basis, he wasn't fulfilling his part of the marriage contract.
He also thought it was great that we served beer at social functions in the church basement, pretty much all of the time.
Posted by: Beverly at October 25, 2016 09:45 PM (6xK61)
Sounds, oddly, Catholic.
My husband, who converted long after we were married, noted with some satisfaction that the priest who married us told him that if he didn't provide sex on a regular basis, he wasn't fulfilling his part of the marriage contract.
He also thought it was great that we served beer at social functions in the church basement, pretty much all of the time.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:50 PM (cm1Bl)
158
and society wonders about the student loan crisis.
These kids can't figure out simple interest or balance a check book. How could they - it takes 52 steps to solve 23x458
There's a personal finance math elective at the high school my kids attend and we've made each of our kids take it. It should be required They spend months working on college application essays but don't have a clue how student loan interest rates will Impact them if they end up borrowing $ to pay for college
These kids can't figure out simple interest or balance a check book. How could they - it takes 52 steps to solve 23x458
There's a personal finance math elective at the high school my kids attend and we've made each of our kids take it. It should be required They spend months working on college application essays but don't have a clue how student loan interest rates will Impact them if they end up borrowing $ to pay for college
Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 25, 2016 09:50 PM (3CFdj)
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155 Remember Ace's post about the new trend will be that the scientific method is toxic and male.
***
Was it here that I read about the claims that science, itself, is misogynistic?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:49 PM (SEXy3)
Science - REAL science - doesn't give a fuck about anyone's feelz.
***
Was it here that I read about the claims that science, itself, is misogynistic?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2016 09:49 PM (SEXy3)
Science - REAL science - doesn't give a fuck about anyone's feelz.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:50 PM (0mRoj)
160
My husband, who converted long after we were married, noted with some satisfaction that the priest who married us told him that if he didn't provide sex on a regular basis, he wasn't fulfilling his part of the marriage contract.
That's not usually a problem on the man's side. Just sayin'.
That's not usually a problem on the man's side. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:51 PM (0mRoj)
161
It starts right out with male genital mutilation.
Posted by: ronsfi at October 25, 2016 09:52 PM (WC165)
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151 Remember Ace's post about the new trend will be that the scientific method is toxic and male.
The new scientific method should be subjective.
That will be taught to our boys and children.
There are no wrong answers as long as you can explain how you got there.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:48 PM (uzJKG)
Memo to self: do not cross bridges built from here on.
The new scientific method should be subjective.
That will be taught to our boys and children.
There are no wrong answers as long as you can explain how you got there.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 09:48 PM (uzJKG)
Memo to self: do not cross bridges built from here on.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 09:52 PM (SRKgf)
163
One's son should know what a "catamite" is and how to avoid becoming one!
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perhaps you joke. but this was sort of what used to be normal. you were taught the words, bullies might call you by them and you were expected to fight. now shit. jimmy called me a faggot so mom sent me to school in a dress and now its all cool because he can't do that now
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perhaps you joke. but this was sort of what used to be normal. you were taught the words, bullies might call you by them and you were expected to fight. now shit. jimmy called me a faggot so mom sent me to school in a dress and now its all cool because he can't do that now
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at October 25, 2016 09:52 PM (U0lQa)
164
On Bizzaro world a man who takes an injured boy to the hospital is a pedophile while Gerry Studds is not.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2016 09:52 PM (IqV8l)
165
Have you taken the Virtus training?
Posted by: Jean at October 25, 2016 09:48 PM (ngn8T)
I'm absolutely gobsmacked that the Church is using this program. It was written by homosexuals and card-carrying members of NAMBLA. Of COURSE they know about preying on young boys. It is what they do.
I had it forced on me at my earlier parish, and shortly thereafter the Bishop got rid of it.
Boy, if you had any shame before that course....
Posted by: Jean at October 25, 2016 09:48 PM (ngn8T)
I'm absolutely gobsmacked that the Church is using this program. It was written by homosexuals and card-carrying members of NAMBLA. Of COURSE they know about preying on young boys. It is what they do.
I had it forced on me at my earlier parish, and shortly thereafter the Bishop got rid of it.
Boy, if you had any shame before that course....
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:52 PM (cm1Bl)
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Science - REAL science - doesn't give a fuck about anyone's feelz.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:50 PM (0mRoj)
For that matter, neither do men, by and large. Hence the affinity for science.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:50 PM (0mRoj)
For that matter, neither do men, by and large. Hence the affinity for science.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 09:52 PM (SRKgf)
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If you have a strong male and female based relationship - the children will be strong males or females. I have both a son and daughter - both adults now ... both doing great.
If you don't have a strong family you are farming out your kids to the state.
If you don't have a strong family you are farming out your kids to the state.
Posted by: ural at October 25, 2016 09:53 PM (CCEVa)
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I'm absolutely gobsmacked that the Church is using this program. It was written by homosexuals and card-carrying members of NAMBLA. Of COURSE they know about preying on young boys. It is what they do.
I had it forced on me at my earlier parish, and shortly thereafter the Bishop got rid of it.
Boy, if you had any shame before that course....
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:52 PM (cm1Bl)
Wait, wut? The hell is this?
I had it forced on me at my earlier parish, and shortly thereafter the Bishop got rid of it.
Boy, if you had any shame before that course....
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:52 PM (cm1Bl)
Wait, wut? The hell is this?
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:53 PM (0mRoj)
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Wild at Heart -- I preferred the movie, though I think David Lynch took some liberties with the plot.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at October 25, 2016 09:54 PM (VSenK)
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I think that's part of it. The result of it is it takes smart kids who are eager to learn and reduces them to tears and frustration because they're being fed bullshit that's almost impossible to learn.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:42 PM (0mRoj)
Yep. The State wants to train them to believe that problems are too hard for people to solve themselves so we should rely on the State's "experts."
Our community college adopted a textbook that made math harder than it has to be (like the situation you described) and our math teachers nearly revolted. In the textbook, it actually said that the only things worth accomplishing are the things we do in groups.
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Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:42 PM (0mRoj)
Yep. The State wants to train them to believe that problems are too hard for people to solve themselves so we should rely on the State's "experts."
Our community college adopted a textbook that made math harder than it has to be (like the situation you described) and our math teachers nearly revolted. In the textbook, it actually said that the only things worth accomplishing are the things we do in groups.
!
Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 09:54 PM (xVuS6)
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Men have done this for the purpose of getting women's votes, an unintended consequence of the 19th Amendment.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:48 PM (0mRoj)
Which is where we went wrong in the first place.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:48 PM (0mRoj)
Which is where we went wrong in the first place.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 09:54 PM (SRKgf)
172
It starts right out with male genital mutilation.
Hah. One of my minor hobby horses.
Two boys, both unmutilated. Wife said the decision was up to me because she didn't have a penis.
Hah. One of my minor hobby horses.
Two boys, both unmutilated. Wife said the decision was up to me because she didn't have a penis.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2016 09:54 PM (mgbwf)
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That's not usually a problem on the man's side. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:51 PM (0mRoj)
Ayep. No problem, at all, at all.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:51 PM (0mRoj)
Ayep. No problem, at all, at all.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:54 PM (cm1Bl)
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167 If you have a strong male and female based relationship - the children will be strong males or females.
Which is one reason the state provides so much incentive - mostly to women - to blow up their marriages.
Which is one reason the state provides so much incentive - mostly to women - to blow up their marriages.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:55 PM (0mRoj)
175
Send you son to the school that teaches how to throw lightning bolts.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2016 09:55 PM (IqV8l)
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Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:47 PM (cm1Bl)
If you want your boys to be math rock stars, check out Kumon math. It is the old fashioned learn by repetition. My daughter went from being relieved to get a C in middle school to pissed off she didn't get an A+ in Algebra 2.
If you want your boys to be math rock stars, check out Kumon math. It is the old fashioned learn by repetition. My daughter went from being relieved to get a C in middle school to pissed off she didn't get an A+ in Algebra 2.
Posted by: F.N.G. at October 25, 2016 09:55 PM (kiSdp)
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Zombie: Bingo.
I edit academic books for a living and try to avoid the sociology sewage. They're now openly bragging about their "Marxist analysis," with the self-righteous tones of those who Know the All.
They're irredeemably hostile to America, not because of our alleged (mostly slander, btw) sins, but Because we're free, Because we're wealthy, Because we are good -- that last one really chaps their asses, because America, the leader of the Free World (hey, when did you last hear THAT phrase? think about it) is the chief obstacle to their insane goal of quite literally ruling the damn world.
And yes, the de-balling is not only deliberate, they Know What They Are Doing, and Why. Among themselves, they speak of this openly. The crap I have to edit at times is basically these sods writing for each other, not for undergrads, where they still have a bit of a fig leaf over their true motives.
Man, they really are what Whittaker Chambers warned us about -- they've succumbed to the oldest temptation of all: "Ye shall be as gods."
/shudder
I edit academic books for a living and try to avoid the sociology sewage. They're now openly bragging about their "Marxist analysis," with the self-righteous tones of those who Know the All.
They're irredeemably hostile to America, not because of our alleged (mostly slander, btw) sins, but Because we're free, Because we're wealthy, Because we are good -- that last one really chaps their asses, because America, the leader of the Free World (hey, when did you last hear THAT phrase? think about it) is the chief obstacle to their insane goal of quite literally ruling the damn world.
And yes, the de-balling is not only deliberate, they Know What They Are Doing, and Why. Among themselves, they speak of this openly. The crap I have to edit at times is basically these sods writing for each other, not for undergrads, where they still have a bit of a fig leaf over their true motives.
Man, they really are what Whittaker Chambers warned us about -- they've succumbed to the oldest temptation of all: "Ye shall be as gods."
/shudder
Posted by: Beverly at October 25, 2016 09:55 PM (6xK61)
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Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:42 PM (0mRoj)
Let me just state some qualifications here, namely that I have advanced degrees in a technical field and a more than passing experience with mathematics.
I tried (and succeeded) in helping my granddaughter with some math home work, and cam away with the conclusion that the current approved math approach to basics is total BS. I was able to show her the school solution, but it was totally devoid of any rationale as to how the mechanics of the problem worked, did not help her in a day to day application, and basically became a turn the rote and complicated mechanical crank to get an answer. Worse, I came away feeling that if the basic old school approach had been taught first, then the "new" school method could have been introduced as an alternative way to look at things and potentially very useful in formulating estimated values for similar problems. People with degrees in Education teaching math are an abomination!
Let me just state some qualifications here, namely that I have advanced degrees in a technical field and a more than passing experience with mathematics.
I tried (and succeeded) in helping my granddaughter with some math home work, and cam away with the conclusion that the current approved math approach to basics is total BS. I was able to show her the school solution, but it was totally devoid of any rationale as to how the mechanics of the problem worked, did not help her in a day to day application, and basically became a turn the rote and complicated mechanical crank to get an answer. Worse, I came away feeling that if the basic old school approach had been taught first, then the "new" school method could have been introduced as an alternative way to look at things and potentially very useful in formulating estimated values for similar problems. People with degrees in Education teaching math are an abomination!
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 25, 2016 09:55 PM (wCEn4)
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It starts right out with male genital mutilation.
Posted by: ronsfi at October 25, 2016 09:52 PM (WC165)
The point where Stephen Molyneaux lost me was on circumcision.
First squeeze a child's head through a space the size of a man's fist. Then force it to breath, deal with cold and hard surfaces for the first time, then circumcise.
Which is the worst trauma?
Posted by: ronsfi at October 25, 2016 09:52 PM (WC165)
The point where Stephen Molyneaux lost me was on circumcision.
First squeeze a child's head through a space the size of a man's fist. Then force it to breath, deal with cold and hard surfaces for the first time, then circumcise.
Which is the worst trauma?
Posted by: Kindltot at October 25, 2016 09:55 PM (lPUaT)
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In the textbook, it actually said that the only things worth accomplishing are the things we do in groups.
!
Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 09:54 PM (xVuS6)
Jesus. They're even collectivizing math.
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Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 09:54 PM (xVuS6)
Jesus. They're even collectivizing math.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:56 PM (0mRoj)
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Two boys, both unmutilated. Wife said the decision was up to me because she didn't have a penis.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2016 09:54 PM (mgbwf)
Mine came that way from Guatemala. We didn't even debate the subject.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2016 09:54 PM (mgbwf)
Mine came that way from Guatemala. We didn't even debate the subject.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:56 PM (cm1Bl)
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters... at October 25, 2016 09:56 PM (3myMJ)
183
can someone Punch MeAgain Kelly in the Twat
Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2016 09:57 PM (y3aQB)
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Which is where we went wrong in the first place.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 09:54 PM (SRKgf)
Nope, owning property is where it started to fall apart!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 09:54 PM (SRKgf)
Nope, owning property is where it started to fall apart!
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 25, 2016 09:57 PM (wCEn4)
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84--"I have a theory: I think the purpose is to discourage parents from
participating in the education of their children. You can't help your
kids with schoolwork if you don't understand what the heck they are
doing.
When I was growing up, it was set theory. With kids in our local
school system, it's lattice multiplication and some weird division
algorithm.
All these things are inscrutable to parents, so the school becomes the expert and parents are sidelined."
You're so very close, Emmie. The true purpose of common-core is to abort or destroy the students' sense of earned self-confidence. When a student can never be sure if his answer (or, so help me, his "estimate") is correct, then he cannot build confidence in his own abilities. Who then becomes the source of approval and self-esteem? Why, the one who decrees which answers are correct: the teacher.
If PARENTS were able to handily and consistently bat back 100% scores on these assignments, then the kids wd willy-nilly IDOLIZE THEIR OWN OLD-SCHOOL PARENTS, not the educationists. Hence the absurd subjective fake "correct" answers, to demoralize us accomplished adults as well as our little future Comrade-Drones.
participating in the education of their children. You can't help your
kids with schoolwork if you don't understand what the heck they are
doing.
When I was growing up, it was set theory. With kids in our local
school system, it's lattice multiplication and some weird division
algorithm.
All these things are inscrutable to parents, so the school becomes the expert and parents are sidelined."
You're so very close, Emmie. The true purpose of common-core is to abort or destroy the students' sense of earned self-confidence. When a student can never be sure if his answer (or, so help me, his "estimate") is correct, then he cannot build confidence in his own abilities. Who then becomes the source of approval and self-esteem? Why, the one who decrees which answers are correct: the teacher.
If PARENTS were able to handily and consistently bat back 100% scores on these assignments, then the kids wd willy-nilly IDOLIZE THEIR OWN OLD-SCHOOL PARENTS, not the educationists. Hence the absurd subjective fake "correct" answers, to demoralize us accomplished adults as well as our little future Comrade-Drones.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 25, 2016 09:57 PM (+O9YB)
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175 Send you son to the school that teaches how to throw lightning bolts.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2016 09:55 PM (IqV8l)
We already named him Thor.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2016 09:55 PM (IqV8l)
We already named him Thor.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:58 PM (cm1Bl)
187
Nope, owning property is where it started to fall apart!
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 25, 2016 09:57 PM (wCEn4)
Yep, I debated putting that one in in first place.
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 25, 2016 09:57 PM (wCEn4)
Yep, I debated putting that one in in first place.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 09:58 PM (SRKgf)
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168
I'm absolutely gobsmacked that the Church is using this program. It was
written by homosexuals and card-carrying members of NAMBLA. Of COURSE
they know about preying on young boys. It is what they do.
I had it forced on me at my earlier parish, and shortly thereafter the Bishop got rid of it.
Boy, if you had any shame before that course....
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:52 PM (cm1Bl)
Wait, wut? The hell is this?
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:53 PM (0mRoj)
I had to go google it after Jean mentioned it. It's kind of creepy and certainly odd that the catholic church would be promoting a program like that, but I guess they had a PR nightmare to handle.
I'm absolutely gobsmacked that the Church is using this program. It was
written by homosexuals and card-carrying members of NAMBLA. Of COURSE
they know about preying on young boys. It is what they do.
I had it forced on me at my earlier parish, and shortly thereafter the Bishop got rid of it.
Boy, if you had any shame before that course....
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:52 PM (cm1Bl)
Wait, wut? The hell is this?
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at October 25, 2016 09:53 PM (0mRoj)
I had to go google it after Jean mentioned it. It's kind of creepy and certainly odd that the catholic church would be promoting a program like that, but I guess they had a PR nightmare to handle.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 09:58 PM (pUDQf)
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Fewer video games, more outside games. Let 'em scrape their knees, fall of their bikes, etc. Mainly, spend time with men.
Posted by: Amy at October 25, 2016 09:58 PM (VCKg1)
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186 175 Send you son to the school that teaches how to throw lightning bolts.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2016 09:55 PM (IqV8l)
We already named him Thor.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:58 PM (cm1Bl)
You should've named him Tyrone. Or Jamal. Because the Africans know how to throw lightning. They just choose not to do it, that's all.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2016 09:55 PM (IqV8l)
We already named him Thor.
Posted by: Deplorable, Catholic and irredemable Redneck tcn in AK at October 25, 2016 09:58 PM (cm1Bl)
You should've named him Tyrone. Or Jamal. Because the Africans know how to throw lightning. They just choose not to do it, that's all.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 09:59 PM (SRKgf)
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145 We need more part time teachers who are actually in the work force. I could spring a 2hr block to teach a science or math course once a week.
Posted by: Jean at October 25, 2016 09:46 PM (ngn8T)
This. So much this. Most teachers have gone through NEA approved college training courses that teach them nothing about subjects, but everything you need to know to indoctrinate the "children" in the current prog memes. Because it's for them, doncha know?
I taught overseas, with a number of ladies who were accountants, chemists and IT programmers. The small, British school didn't have any "certified" teachers, but those kids were learning stuff, and learning it well. I taught second grade, and had three girls that I started on algebra problems, and they were doing well. I had one little boy, with actual ADHD, and we would go outside and do math and grammar with jody chants, so he could burn off energy and learn something.
The year before, his "certified" teacher was forcing him to defecate in his pants because she didn't want him to get up and go to the bathroom, and disrupt her class.
Sorry to rant, but this is one of my biggest pet peeves-probably because the girls in education when I was in college were blithering idiots, and now they are the principals and the professors teaching new education majors. And they suck.
Posted by: Jean at October 25, 2016 09:46 PM (ngn8T)
This. So much this. Most teachers have gone through NEA approved college training courses that teach them nothing about subjects, but everything you need to know to indoctrinate the "children" in the current prog memes. Because it's for them, doncha know?
I taught overseas, with a number of ladies who were accountants, chemists and IT programmers. The small, British school didn't have any "certified" teachers, but those kids were learning stuff, and learning it well. I taught second grade, and had three girls that I started on algebra problems, and they were doing well. I had one little boy, with actual ADHD, and we would go outside and do math and grammar with jody chants, so he could burn off energy and learn something.
The year before, his "certified" teacher was forcing him to defecate in his pants because she didn't want him to get up and go to the bathroom, and disrupt her class.
Sorry to rant, but this is one of my biggest pet peeves-probably because the girls in education when I was in college were blithering idiots, and now they are the principals and the professors teaching new education majors. And they suck.
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:01 PM (VnCI9)
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Sorry to rant, but this is one of my biggest pet peeves-probably because the girls in education when I was in college were blithering idiots, and now they are the principals and the professors teaching new education majors. And they suck.
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:01 PM (VnCI9)
One of my relatives knew an education major in college. She was unquestionably the dumbest person they'd ever met.
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:01 PM (VnCI9)
One of my relatives knew an education major in college. She was unquestionably the dumbest person they'd ever met.
Posted by: Insomniac - Broken, No Refunds at October 25, 2016 10:02 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at October 25, 2016 10:03 PM (U0lQa)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2016 10:03 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 10:04 PM (xVuS6)
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You should've named him Tyrone. Or Jamal. Because the Africans know how
to throw lightning. They just choose not to do it, that's all.
They throw lightning all over the place on the west and south sides of Chicago. Just aren't very good shots.
to throw lightning. They just choose not to do it, that's all.
They throw lightning all over the place on the west and south sides of Chicago. Just aren't very good shots.
Posted by: Willie Waylon at October 25, 2016 10:05 PM (ce4zT)
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https://tinyurl.com/glk25j8
Networks are losing viewers like crazy
Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2016 10:03 PM (y3aQB)
I hope it continues. It's happening with movies and the liberal stars in them. It's happening with the networks and people dumping ESPN. It's happening with Target and their gender bender bathroom bullshit.
Makes me happy to know I'm part of a group of awake individuals. You can spew your liberal BS all day long. But you can't have my dollars.
https://tinyurl.com/glk25j8
Networks are losing viewers like crazy
Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2016 10:03 PM (y3aQB)
I hope it continues. It's happening with movies and the liberal stars in them. It's happening with the networks and people dumping ESPN. It's happening with Target and their gender bender bathroom bullshit.
Makes me happy to know I'm part of a group of awake individuals. You can spew your liberal BS all day long. But you can't have my dollars.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 10:05 PM (pUDQf)
198
3-0 Native American Indigenous Peoples
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 10:07 PM (pUDQf)
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https://tinyurl.com/hq3yahh
Hillary Has Abnormal Eye Movements, Say Majority of Doctors Surveyed, Reports AAPS
Hillary Has Abnormal Eye Movements, Say Majority of Doctors Surveyed, Reports AAPS
Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2016 10:08 PM (y3aQB)
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Textbooks nowadays are a joke. They're multi-color "socially relevant" pablum interspersed with the odd substantive treatment.
My son's algebra textbook - again, multi-colored (or should I say, a "textbook of multi-color?") had marginal entries about the first black female astronaut to take a shit in space, and things of that ilk. That is relevant to algebra ...how?
Then his chemistry textbook was ridiculous the other way. Page N talked about atoms. Page N+1 talked about glycosylation of proteins. WTF? Were there about 1000 pages of material and several years missing between those pages? They hadn't even mentioned pH yet.
I brought this up to my son's teacher, who said that they hadn't covered pH because they hadn't covered the mole concept yet. I was astonished; they hadn't covered the mole concept, but they were talking about glycosylation??? Methinks the authors were losers washed out of grad school who were trying to convince others - and themselves - that they really were up to it intellectually, and to prove it, they were going to blow away some poor kids.
My son's algebra textbook - again, multi-colored (or should I say, a "textbook of multi-color?") had marginal entries about the first black female astronaut to take a shit in space, and things of that ilk. That is relevant to algebra ...how?
Then his chemistry textbook was ridiculous the other way. Page N talked about atoms. Page N+1 talked about glycosylation of proteins. WTF? Were there about 1000 pages of material and several years missing between those pages? They hadn't even mentioned pH yet.
I brought this up to my son's teacher, who said that they hadn't covered pH because they hadn't covered the mole concept yet. I was astonished; they hadn't covered the mole concept, but they were talking about glycosylation??? Methinks the authors were losers washed out of grad school who were trying to convince others - and themselves - that they really were up to it intellectually, and to prove it, they were going to blow away some poor kids.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 10:08 PM (SRKgf)
201
Sorry to rant, but this is one of my biggest pet peeves-probably because the girls in education when I was in college were blithering idiots, and now they are the principals and the professors teaching new education majors. And they suck.
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:01 PM (VnCI9)
I bet their husbands would dispute that contention.
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:01 PM (VnCI9)
I bet their husbands would dispute that contention.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 10:09 PM (SRKgf)
202
A few years ago our Scout troop was out camping for the weekend at a nearby state park. The program was "patrol activities", which meant that Scouts in each of three patrols had decided what they were doing on Saturday. So, after breakfast, they prepped and left the campsite. Two mothers were there and witnessed this. Questioned followed...
"Where are they going?"
"Somewhere in the park."
"Where?"
"Dunno exactly, but they have park maps."
"Why did no adults go with them?"
"They are a patrol; they look out for one another."
"What is one of them gets hurt?"
"They are a patrol; they know how to treat injuries."
"What if the injury is major?"
"They are a patrol; each one has at least one phone with them and they know our phone numbers."
"What if they leave the park?"
"Again, they have maps, which we reviewed last night and they know they are not to cross any of the major roads that surround this park."
"How come they didn't pack lunches?"
"Their plans are to grill their lunches at * this * site starting at noon. We will transport their foodstuffs and charcoal to there, as well as our own, and join them for lunch."
"Do you allow them to do this all the time?"
"They are Boy Scouts, this is what they are taught to do and this is what they love to do."
"Oh."
A few years ago our Scout troop was out camping for the weekend at a nearby state park. The program was "patrol activities", which meant that Scouts in each of three patrols had decided what they were doing on Saturday. So, after breakfast, they prepped and left the campsite. Two mothers were there and witnessed this. Questioned followed...
"Where are they going?"
"Somewhere in the park."
"Where?"
"Dunno exactly, but they have park maps."
"Why did no adults go with them?"
"They are a patrol; they look out for one another."
"What is one of them gets hurt?"
"They are a patrol; they know how to treat injuries."
"What if the injury is major?"
"They are a patrol; each one has at least one phone with them and they know our phone numbers."
"What if they leave the park?"
"Again, they have maps, which we reviewed last night and they know they are not to cross any of the major roads that surround this park."
"How come they didn't pack lunches?"
"Their plans are to grill their lunches at * this * site starting at noon. We will transport their foodstuffs and charcoal to there, as well as our own, and join them for lunch."
"Do you allow them to do this all the time?"
"They are Boy Scouts, this is what they are taught to do and this is what they love to do."
"Oh."
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at October 25, 2016 10:10 PM (BK3ZS)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2016 10:10 PM (IqV8l)
204
"Paging Mr. Warden: your son has climbed INTO THE LOBSTER TANK! I repeat..."
Posted by: t-bird at October 25, 2016 10:10 PM (/cksx)
205
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at October 25, 2016 10:10 PM (BK3ZS)
Behold the result of feminizing the culture.
Behold the result of feminizing the culture.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 10:12 PM (SRKgf)
206
Hold me with your kung-fu grip, Joe.
Posted by: Barbie at October 25, 2016 10:13 PM (0F67M)
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Happy to learn the nets are losing viewers. If I wanted to hear or watch partisan screeds, I can get that for free from the fools who surround me here in NYC.
Posted by: vivi at October 25, 2016 10:13 PM (11H2y)
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Junior year in college (early 90's), out of the dorms, I moved into an old colonial subdivided into apts sharing a single heating system with thermostat in the central hallway. Across the hall from me was an apparently highly-regarded female professor of "women's studies" - who looked like a 56-year old Sinead O'Connor. Winters became a battle of who could get out to the thermostat the most often and occasionally we'd meet up, usually with her girlfriend in tow. Visibly angry, she would frown and comment about how I felt I "owned" the place. Went on all winter. Nasty woman. When I moved out at the end of the term, I slit open a package of whole whitefish and slid it into the filter/air intake down in the basement.
Going to be one of the toughest but most important battles in the coming revolution - to flip the proportion of liberal SJWs posing as "educators."
Going to be one of the toughest but most important battles in the coming revolution - to flip the proportion of liberal SJWs posing as "educators."
Posted by: Smitty27 at October 25, 2016 10:14 PM (g9d8D)
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If you don't have a strong family you are farming out your kids to the state.
Posted by: ural at October 25, 2016 09:53 PM (CCEVa)
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Back when I was a liberal, I wrote an article proposing a parental licensing scheme, whereby if parents completed certain courses, the state would then grant a license establishing eligibility for state preferences, subsidies, and entitlements.
Yeah, sick, right?
Posted by: ural at October 25, 2016 09:53 PM (CCEVa)
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Back when I was a liberal, I wrote an article proposing a parental licensing scheme, whereby if parents completed certain courses, the state would then grant a license establishing eligibility for state preferences, subsidies, and entitlements.
Yeah, sick, right?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2016 10:14 PM (EZebt)
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To All,
Read Bringing Up Boys. Great book. Yes, it is religious. Crazy thing is that it some predictions from years ago about some of these groups and their plans for our sons... Those predictions have already come true.
Read Bringing Up Boys. Great book. Yes, it is religious. Crazy thing is that it some predictions from years ago about some of these groups and their plans for our sons... Those predictions have already come true.
Posted by: LandosBFG at October 25, 2016 10:16 PM (TD5j6)
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"This means giving your boys, or even someone else's, the space to adventure, roughhouse, explore, and challenge themselves. It also means accepting a relatively higher level risk of injury."
muh baby!
Noooooooooooo!
muh baby!
Noooooooooooo!
Posted by: Shoey at October 25, 2016 10:16 PM (vA94g)
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~200 kkkomments and no one has yet mentioned THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL?!?!?
All I am reading are descriptions of symptoms of reactions to the systemic relentless totalitarian poisoning of the culture by TFS.
None of this arose organically. Nothing here is random. None of it is cohencidence.
Everything is proceeding as planned, according to The Final Solution for the huWhyte Race.
All I am reading are descriptions of symptoms of reactions to the systemic relentless totalitarian poisoning of the culture by TFS.
None of this arose organically. Nothing here is random. None of it is cohencidence.
Everything is proceeding as planned, according to The Final Solution for the huWhyte Race.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 25, 2016 10:17 PM (uHPaX)
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208 Junior year in college (early 90's), out of the dorms, I moved into an old colonial subdivided into apts sharing a single heating system with thermostat in the central hallway. Across the hall from me was an apparently highly-regarded female professor of "women's studies" - who looked like a 56-year old Sinead O'Connor. Winters became a battle of who could get out to the thermostat the most often and occasionally we'd meet up, usually with her girlfriend in tow. Visibly angry, she would frown and comment about how I felt I "owned" the place. Went on all winter. Nasty woman. When I moved out at the end of the term, I slit open a package of whole whitefish and slid it into the filter/air intake down in the basement.
Going to be one of the toughest but most important battles in the coming revolution - to flip the proportion of liberal SJWs posing as "educators."
Posted by: Smitty27 at October 25, 2016 10:14 PM (g9d8D)
Pro tip: dismantle the thermostat and if it's one of those old dial types, disable the connection internally when it's set to a reasonable temperature. Then let her tweak the dial all she likes.
Going to be one of the toughest but most important battles in the coming revolution - to flip the proportion of liberal SJWs posing as "educators."
Posted by: Smitty27 at October 25, 2016 10:14 PM (g9d8D)
Pro tip: dismantle the thermostat and if it's one of those old dial types, disable the connection internally when it's set to a reasonable temperature. Then let her tweak the dial all she likes.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 10:17 PM (SRKgf)
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Back when I was a liberal, I wrote an article proposing a parental licensing scheme, whereby if parents completed certain courses, the state would then grant a license establishing eligibility for state preferences, subsidies, and entitlements.
Yeah, sick, right?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2016 10:14 PM (EZebt)
Sophomoric. And that's normal for 18-19 year old college kids, stretching their ideas and training. Kids go through those phases in college, and, used to be, that they would get out and be contributing members of society. But if you did this after grad school, then yeah, shame on you.
; )
Back when I was a liberal, I wrote an article proposing a parental licensing scheme, whereby if parents completed certain courses, the state would then grant a license establishing eligibility for state preferences, subsidies, and entitlements.
Yeah, sick, right?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2016 10:14 PM (EZebt)
Sophomoric. And that's normal for 18-19 year old college kids, stretching their ideas and training. Kids go through those phases in college, and, used to be, that they would get out and be contributing members of society. But if you did this after grad school, then yeah, shame on you.
; )
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:18 PM (VnCI9)
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It boils down to the State and women only see value in boys and wen as objects to serve their needs.
Boys are being brainwashed into arcing the State and women. That's their sole reason for existence.
Men who serve God and their own self interests are deemed toxic and branded as dangerous.
Boys are being brainwashed into arcing the State and women. That's their sole reason for existence.
Men who serve God and their own self interests are deemed toxic and branded as dangerous.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 10:18 PM (uzJKG)
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Sophomoric. And that's normal for 18-19 year old college kids, stretching their ideas and training. Kids go through those phases in college, and, used to be, that they would get out and be contributing members of society. But if you did this after grad school, then yeah, shame on you.
; )
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:18 PM (VnCI9)
And an object lesson in why the voting age should be at least 21.
; )
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:18 PM (VnCI9)
And an object lesson in why the voting age should be at least 21.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 10:19 PM (SRKgf)
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"This means giving your boys, or even someone else's, the space to adventure, roughhouse, explore, and challenge themselves. It also means accepting a relatively higher level risk of injury."
Just last year, a family was being threatened with jail, and their kids being sent to foster care, because they were "free-range" parents. They let their kids walk a block to the playground by themselves, or walk a few blocks to a bodego to buy milk or an ice cream. The hue and cry was fierce in the DC area, saying these parents were neglectful and harming their kids.
The choice isn't necessarily being a helicopter parent or a realistic one, sometimes it's literally keeping the state from taking your children from you by force. If the ER thinks your kids come in with too many injuries, they are calling CPS. Because nanny state.
Naturally, when a child truly needs intervention, nothing is done. I've never understood why this happens.
Just last year, a family was being threatened with jail, and their kids being sent to foster care, because they were "free-range" parents. They let their kids walk a block to the playground by themselves, or walk a few blocks to a bodego to buy milk or an ice cream. The hue and cry was fierce in the DC area, saying these parents were neglectful and harming their kids.
The choice isn't necessarily being a helicopter parent or a realistic one, sometimes it's literally keeping the state from taking your children from you by force. If the ER thinks your kids come in with too many injuries, they are calling CPS. Because nanny state.
Naturally, when a child truly needs intervention, nothing is done. I've never understood why this happens.
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:22 PM (VnCI9)
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Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:18 PM (VnCI9)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 10:19 PM (SRKgf)
I was 32. *hangs head in shame*
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 10:19 PM (SRKgf)
I was 32. *hangs head in shame*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2016 10:24 PM (EZebt)
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Naturally, when a child truly needs intervention, nothing is done. I've never understood why this happens.
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:22 PM (VnCI9)
Because it's not really about the child's well-being.
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:22 PM (VnCI9)
Because it's not really about the child's well-being.
Posted by: Emmie at October 25, 2016 10:24 PM (xVuS6)
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Teach your boys how to:
* change a tire
* chop wood and make a fire
* be courteous and have good manners....and use them
* play with dogs.....a LOT
* have chores
* respect his mother and see his father as a mentor
* know how to problem =solve and use his wits in a difficult situation.
Just a start list.....
* change a tire
* chop wood and make a fire
* be courteous and have good manners....and use them
* play with dogs.....a LOT
* have chores
* respect his mother and see his father as a mentor
* know how to problem =solve and use his wits in a difficult situation.
Just a start list.....
Posted by: bls at October 25, 2016 10:24 PM (1GoiW)
Posted by: LandosBFG at October 25, 2016 10:27 PM (TD5j6)
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circumcision is not mutilation
grow up, Jesus. its not like they cut off the meatus.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at October 25, 2016 10:03 PM (U0lQa)
Begun the Foreskin wars have.
grow up, Jesus. its not like they cut off the meatus.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at October 25, 2016 10:03 PM (U0lQa)
Begun the Foreskin wars have.
Posted by: Yoda at October 25, 2016 10:29 PM (cmE8J)
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The choice isn't necessarily being a helicopter parent or a realistic one, sometimes it's literally keeping the state from taking your children from you by force. If the ER thinks your kids come in with too many injuries, they are calling CPS. Because nanny state.
Naturally, when a child truly needs intervention, nothing is done. I've never understood why this happens.
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:22 PM (VnCI9)
Same with Public School Teachers.
You hit the nail on the head. The State and it's agents literally constantly threatening to take your kids from you if you don't toe the line.
Threatening ones children with harm and taking them from the parents is the oldest and the most ruthless evil from of terrorism/asymmetrical warfare.
Our country rightfully denounces these practices across the world but sit silent while the State and private businesses makes 10's of Billions a year from The exact same tactics.... We just call it capitalism as a justification.
Naturally, when a child truly needs intervention, nothing is done. I've never understood why this happens.
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:22 PM (VnCI9)
Same with Public School Teachers.
You hit the nail on the head. The State and it's agents literally constantly threatening to take your kids from you if you don't toe the line.
Threatening ones children with harm and taking them from the parents is the oldest and the most ruthless evil from of terrorism/asymmetrical warfare.
Our country rightfully denounces these practices across the world but sit silent while the State and private businesses makes 10's of Billions a year from The exact same tactics.... We just call it capitalism as a justification.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 10:32 PM (uzJKG)
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I was 32. *hangs head in shame*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2016 10:24 PM (EZebt)
Hey, you saw the light. There's many who would keep on in their ignorance, not caring who suffered because of it. You did good, darlin'.
I was 32. *hangs head in shame*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 25, 2016 10:24 PM (EZebt)
Hey, you saw the light. There's many who would keep on in their ignorance, not caring who suffered because of it. You did good, darlin'.
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:32 PM (VnCI9)
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BTW, physicist Richard P. Feynman hated the "new math" set theory crap that came out when his kids were young, in the 1960s. Same objection: complication that was onerous, meaningless, and got in the way of doing math. His kids said later that he knew a thousand shortcuts to problem-solving, and using them got them into trouble with their idiot public school 'teachers.'
Posted by: Beverly at October 25, 2016 10:35 PM (6xK61)
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223- I forgot about teachers-if they even think something is amiss, they are required by law to report it to their principal and CPS. To not report it means they could be fired and prosecuted for child abuse themselves.
I kinda/sorta understand that if a teacher sees a kid with bruises day in and day out, they need to see what's going on, but who writes the law that threatens loss of income for not reporting every little bump or scrape?
I kinda/sorta understand that if a teacher sees a kid with bruises day in and day out, they need to see what's going on, but who writes the law that threatens loss of income for not reporting every little bump or scrape?
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:36 PM (VnCI9)
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Alright, the 6:30 alarm comes early. Have fun on the ONT, y'all.
Posted by: Moki at October 25, 2016 10:37 PM (VnCI9)
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Theoretically and just thinking out loud, this shit would stop asap against our children and boys if 5 to 6 thousand parents for together who have had their children ripped from them by government agents and sought righteous Old Testiment eye for and eye Vengeance on the folks in black robes.
Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at October 25, 2016 10:37 PM (uzJKG)
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"Teach your boys how to:
* change a tire
* chop wood and make a fire
* be courteous and have good manners....and use them
* play with dogs.....a LOT
* have chores
* respect his mother and see his father as a mentor
* know how to problem =solve and use his wits in a difficult situation.
Just a start list....."
I would say the same thing for your daughters.
* change a tire
* chop wood and make a fire
* be courteous and have good manners....and use them
* play with dogs.....a LOT
* have chores
* respect his mother and see his father as a mentor
* know how to problem =solve and use his wits in a difficult situation.
Just a start list....."
I would say the same thing for your daughters.
Posted by: ural at October 25, 2016 10:39 PM (CCEVa)
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Only in (now) pussy nation does this shit run rampant- especially with the Adderall and what not. I let my kids run wild and home school them. I am starting to really hate my own country.
Posted by: Dr. Zaius MD at October 25, 2016 10:39 PM (N0zEO)
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About 15 years ago I worked at the National Science Foundation in the Education and Human Resources Directorate for Dr. Judith Ramaley. Ramaley's directorate was responsible for education outreach, including promoting math and science in elementary and secondary schools. Ramaley's directorate would publish a annual of programs and activities focused at promoting "girls in science." It listed tens of millions of dollars spent toward this end. It was two inches thick. You know how thick the annual was for efforts targeted at boys? Nil; it didn't exist because not one dime was spent two encouraging boys. They used to openly joke there that it was the foundation's "dirty little secret." It made me sick to work there. I'm glad I fled there. Don't even get me started on how they give hundreds of millions of taxpayers' dollars away to foreigners for their advanced educations.
Posted by: Manolo at October 25, 2016 10:47 PM (ehKFG)
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If you kids are at all inclined toward it, encourage them to get into racing at a young age.
Auto racing has it all. The physical danger teaches them to face fear and work through the adrenaline. The construction, maintenance, and repair of the car (and boy howdy will there ever maintenance and repair) teaches them how to work with their hands and fixing a wrecked car between the heat races and feature to make the show teaches them how to problem solve in real time while under pressure. The actual on track competition will teach them to learn from their mistakes in real time, and hone their ability to channel aggression effectively, and to know when to be aggressive (fangs in/fangs out). The racecraft and strategy they learn on-track will also carry over into other parts of their lives. Learning to look far ahead of what's happening right now and see what's likely to be coming is a skill that can be easily repurposed from the racetrack to the rest of life. They'll learn to stay "in the moment" but also to look as far ahead as possible and prepare for what's likely coming.
I started racing when I was 16, and honestly, once you've been sideways on three wheels at 120 MPH on a dirt racing surface (or upside down, or into a concrete wall or another car at 80mph), NOTHING else is really all that exciting or scary anymore.
Do not underestimate the value of being able to easily handle every day adrenaline dumps like it's nothing at all (because to them, it IS nothing at all, certainly nothing compared to the sustained half hour long extreme exposure to main line adrenaline that comes from being in a race car for a full feature race.
Do that once a week, 26 weeks a year, for a couple of years, and suddenly everything else just isn't that scary or jarring anymore.
It IS expensive, but probably less so than trying to expose a kid to all those things one at a time, or sending them to private school, or paying for therapy for years to try and un-do all the shit that gets done to them at school.
Racing will totally overshadow anything else that comes up in their lives, school, girls, jobs, whatever. Everything else will fade into the background, which is where most of that stuff belongs anyway.
Racing cars is probably the best thing that ever happened to me, honestly.
Just be prepared, it can and will swallow the whole family (and they'll probably enjoy it when it happens lol), and all your free time.
Auto racing has it all. The physical danger teaches them to face fear and work through the adrenaline. The construction, maintenance, and repair of the car (and boy howdy will there ever maintenance and repair) teaches them how to work with their hands and fixing a wrecked car between the heat races and feature to make the show teaches them how to problem solve in real time while under pressure. The actual on track competition will teach them to learn from their mistakes in real time, and hone their ability to channel aggression effectively, and to know when to be aggressive (fangs in/fangs out). The racecraft and strategy they learn on-track will also carry over into other parts of their lives. Learning to look far ahead of what's happening right now and see what's likely to be coming is a skill that can be easily repurposed from the racetrack to the rest of life. They'll learn to stay "in the moment" but also to look as far ahead as possible and prepare for what's likely coming.
I started racing when I was 16, and honestly, once you've been sideways on three wheels at 120 MPH on a dirt racing surface (or upside down, or into a concrete wall or another car at 80mph), NOTHING else is really all that exciting or scary anymore.
Do not underestimate the value of being able to easily handle every day adrenaline dumps like it's nothing at all (because to them, it IS nothing at all, certainly nothing compared to the sustained half hour long extreme exposure to main line adrenaline that comes from being in a race car for a full feature race.
Do that once a week, 26 weeks a year, for a couple of years, and suddenly everything else just isn't that scary or jarring anymore.
It IS expensive, but probably less so than trying to expose a kid to all those things one at a time, or sending them to private school, or paying for therapy for years to try and un-do all the shit that gets done to them at school.
Racing will totally overshadow anything else that comes up in their lives, school, girls, jobs, whatever. Everything else will fade into the background, which is where most of that stuff belongs anyway.
Racing cars is probably the best thing that ever happened to me, honestly.
Just be prepared, it can and will swallow the whole family (and they'll probably enjoy it when it happens lol), and all your free time.
Posted by: Not A Republican Anymore, but Damned Sure Not a Democrate Either at October 25, 2016 10:48 PM (iRpFt)
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"...spent toward encouraging..."
Posted by: Manolo at October 25, 2016 10:48 PM (ehKFG)
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Outstanding, Warden. Your boys are fortunate to have such good parents.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 25, 2016 10:54 PM (97XyN)
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Racing cars is probably the best thing that ever happened to me, honestly.
Just
be prepared, it can and will swallow the whole family (and they'll
probably enjoy it when it happens lol), and all your free time.
Posted by: Not A Republican Anymore, but Damned Sure Not a Democrate Either at October 25, 2016 10:48 PM (iRpFt)
Two things I wish my dad had directed me towards as a kid. Racing and golf. I seriously think I would have excelled at both. If he had me swinging a club at 5 or 6, I would have been the next Nicklaus.
At least, that's what I tell myself. lol
Just
be prepared, it can and will swallow the whole family (and they'll
probably enjoy it when it happens lol), and all your free time.
Posted by: Not A Republican Anymore, but Damned Sure Not a Democrate Either at October 25, 2016 10:48 PM (iRpFt)
Two things I wish my dad had directed me towards as a kid. Racing and golf. I seriously think I would have excelled at both. If he had me swinging a club at 5 or 6, I would have been the next Nicklaus.
At least, that's what I tell myself. lol
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 25, 2016 10:59 PM (pUDQf)
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"If you kids are at all inclined toward it, encourage them to get into racing at a young age."
As a parent of adults, I would encourage parents to help them find their wings ... whatever they be.
"If you kids are at all inclined toward it, encourage them to get into racing at a young age."
As a parent of adults, I would encourage parents to help them find their wings ... whatever they be.
Posted by: ural at October 25, 2016 11:01 PM (CCEVa)
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Sex-segregated education.
I went to an all-girls prep school back in the day. Best educational thing that ever happened to me.
Put boys in a structure that is adapted to them and they will thrive.
I went to an all-girls prep school back in the day. Best educational thing that ever happened to me.
Put boys in a structure that is adapted to them and they will thrive.
Posted by: Sal at October 25, 2016 11:12 PM (hA4a+)
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"I also take the boys to stereotypically masculine events--car racing, monster trucks, regional pro wrestling, rodeos, football games, etc... If it's loud, dirty or dangerous to the participants, we're there."
Try taking them to an ice hockey game!
Try taking them to an ice hockey game!
Posted by: joe at October 25, 2016 11:18 PM (timOb)
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Incidentally I'm thinking about starting to homeschool my oldest boys next year (they'll be 6 and 5). I'm lucky enough to have a job where I can work from home in the mornings and go to the "office" after lunch.
How about let's have a weekly AOS homeschooling blog? Maybe form a network of likeminded morons? (That'd be a best-seller for sure: the Moron Method of Homeschooling...)
How about let's have a weekly AOS homeschooling blog? Maybe form a network of likeminded morons? (That'd be a best-seller for sure: the Moron Method of Homeschooling...)
Posted by: joe at October 25, 2016 11:20 PM (timOb)
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All my kids are grown and out of college, but if they were of school age this day and age, I would be homeschooling them before letting them get ground into hamburger by the progressive meat machine we call "education".
Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 25, 2016 11:34 PM (cCxiu)
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Put boys in a structure that is adapted to them and they will thrive.
Posted by: Sal at October 25, 2016 11:12 PM (hA4a+)
I've thought this about football. I helped coach a Pop Warner team, and was astonished at the dynamic evinced there. I'd expected PC "Timmy please do try to make your block next time" shit, but no. Coaches were bellowing across the field at kids who'd missed their block.
Sounds harsh, but with boys, it works. Girls would probably burst into tears, but Timmy next time, by God, makes his block. The DI approach works with boys. Probably not so much with girls.
Posted by: Sal at October 25, 2016 11:12 PM (hA4a+)
I've thought this about football. I helped coach a Pop Warner team, and was astonished at the dynamic evinced there. I'd expected PC "Timmy please do try to make your block next time" shit, but no. Coaches were bellowing across the field at kids who'd missed their block.
Sounds harsh, but with boys, it works. Girls would probably burst into tears, but Timmy next time, by God, makes his block. The DI approach works with boys. Probably not so much with girls.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 25, 2016 11:54 PM (SRKgf)
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What's also changed are the jobs kids have. I had a morning paper route in The Bronx when I was 10 until 14. By the time I was out of high school I had five or six other jobs that got me all over NYC
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 26, 2016 12:08 AM (D5HQE)
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in 1856 Wellington said 'the battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton.'
A lot of this post is absolutely true and crucial - but as I get older I have learned, more and more, that the physical strength and mental toughness and grit and work ethic and integrity were ingrained early by my folks and regularly by Scripture... they are natural masculine virtues that i enjoy observing.
But these days for me the true test of mettle is kindness, grace, patience, and using creativity to elevate others above myself.
As a young boy, to learn that punching the bully is the righteous use of might - that is an old standard... but for a parent to take a scalpel to the onion and demonstrate that in that violence is kindness and self-sacrifice.... that is crucial.
men have far more opportunities to run roughshod over the women, children, progressive betas who never knew any better and maybe had NPR fathers or no fathers at all, and sensitive flowers in our lives... and kindness applied rigorously requires no small measure of focus, strength and self control.
this line of parenting also gives you the opportunity to be the first place where your child hears the well-worn "grace is courage under pressure" or whatever that sop of a man-boy's old quote was.
But hey - it's his year - his Old Man mentioned explicitly that he feared "the Indians of Cleveland."
if they are older boys, turning them onto that KGB wannabe (code-named Argo if memory serves) informant pinko child-of-a-man's writing would be an excellent double-bird.. masculinity in literature to fire your young man into a reader, and then deconstructing the Hemingway worship and teaching your son that to go through life drunk and not in control of your pants is folly.
Ephesians 4:32 is my Petzl for remembering kindness, because it ties the duty of kindness to the iron spikes nailing me to the cross with my Christ...
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Love,
Wolf Larsen
A lot of this post is absolutely true and crucial - but as I get older I have learned, more and more, that the physical strength and mental toughness and grit and work ethic and integrity were ingrained early by my folks and regularly by Scripture... they are natural masculine virtues that i enjoy observing.
But these days for me the true test of mettle is kindness, grace, patience, and using creativity to elevate others above myself.
As a young boy, to learn that punching the bully is the righteous use of might - that is an old standard... but for a parent to take a scalpel to the onion and demonstrate that in that violence is kindness and self-sacrifice.... that is crucial.
men have far more opportunities to run roughshod over the women, children, progressive betas who never knew any better and maybe had NPR fathers or no fathers at all, and sensitive flowers in our lives... and kindness applied rigorously requires no small measure of focus, strength and self control.
this line of parenting also gives you the opportunity to be the first place where your child hears the well-worn "grace is courage under pressure" or whatever that sop of a man-boy's old quote was.
But hey - it's his year - his Old Man mentioned explicitly that he feared "the Indians of Cleveland."
if they are older boys, turning them onto that KGB wannabe (code-named Argo if memory serves) informant pinko child-of-a-man's writing would be an excellent double-bird.. masculinity in literature to fire your young man into a reader, and then deconstructing the Hemingway worship and teaching your son that to go through life drunk and not in control of your pants is folly.
Ephesians 4:32 is my Petzl for remembering kindness, because it ties the duty of kindness to the iron spikes nailing me to the cross with my Christ...
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Love,
Wolf Larsen
Posted by: Wolf Larsen at October 26, 2016 12:35 AM (fP4Az)
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My son is 5. I want to keep him safe, and I fight that. I am fighting regular motherly instinct and, well, I've lost two babies so that plays into things as well.
He climbs everything and is a complete monkey and is good at it too, so I let him. And starting to do pull ups and such. When him and my husband/his father are out at our farm husband lets him run around anywhere he wants to. Except when he needs him to hand him a wrench or something. He's been spray painting his "swords" and has been trying to cut through an old telephone pole with an old blunt hatchet for months now.
I do a bad job at letting him go out and play by himself when we are in town.
Uncle took him exploring out in the creek for hours one day and oh my, he loved it. The other kids came back and he just stayed out there with his uncle until his new nickname was shiver britches.
Don't know where I am going with this. I see that boys are treated badly and hopefully my momma grizzly will stand up for him to be able to be a boy.
He climbs everything and is a complete monkey and is good at it too, so I let him. And starting to do pull ups and such. When him and my husband/his father are out at our farm husband lets him run around anywhere he wants to. Except when he needs him to hand him a wrench or something. He's been spray painting his "swords" and has been trying to cut through an old telephone pole with an old blunt hatchet for months now.
I do a bad job at letting him go out and play by himself when we are in town.
Uncle took him exploring out in the creek for hours one day and oh my, he loved it. The other kids came back and he just stayed out there with his uncle until his new nickname was shiver britches.
Don't know where I am going with this. I see that boys are treated badly and hopefully my momma grizzly will stand up for him to be able to be a boy.
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Life's pretty simple, really. Protect yourself, your loved ones and your DNA, passing down useful knowledge to your offspring so they can do the same. The rest is just details. It's worked for my family for about a million years or so. (knock wood). Good luck, all.
Posted by: MF at October 26, 2016 03:16 AM (qu75y)
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Don't let them have a smart phone. They may as well take estrogen shots. Nothing turns a young man into a self absorbed pussy faster than snapchat/instagram/tumblr. For the same price as a Samsung S7 you can buy a Remington 700. If he needs a phone get a pay-as-u-go flip phone. He'll hate to be seen with it, which is the whole point.
Posted by: Nosegay of Deplorables at October 26, 2016 08:03 AM (EIJH/)
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Good for you, Warden!
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at October 26, 2016 08:48 AM (V71z9)
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In this discussion it is useful to distinguish between manliness and manhood. The former is the form of masculinity. The latter is the substance.
We should teach our boys the attributes of both because manliness provides the best tools for manhood, but anything short of that, teaching manhood must take precedence. Why? Manhood comes down to three principles every boy must learn to live by. First, only speak the truth. Second, protect the weak and vulnerable. Third, honor your commitments.
Manhood sans manliness means a boy who will do the right thing, but without the best tools for doing so. Manliness sans manhood means a boy who will become a predator. Therefore, manhood civilizes the manliness innate in boys. Although the ruthless feminization of our culture deprives our boys lessons in both manhood and manliness, their manliness will still burst out all too often in destructive ways in the absence of disciplining manhood.
So it isn't a generation of pajama boys that will overwhelm us if this campaign of feminization continues. It will be a generation of predators.
We should teach our boys the attributes of both because manliness provides the best tools for manhood, but anything short of that, teaching manhood must take precedence. Why? Manhood comes down to three principles every boy must learn to live by. First, only speak the truth. Second, protect the weak and vulnerable. Third, honor your commitments.
Manhood sans manliness means a boy who will do the right thing, but without the best tools for doing so. Manliness sans manhood means a boy who will become a predator. Therefore, manhood civilizes the manliness innate in boys. Although the ruthless feminization of our culture deprives our boys lessons in both manhood and manliness, their manliness will still burst out all too often in destructive ways in the absence of disciplining manhood.
So it isn't a generation of pajama boys that will overwhelm us if this campaign of feminization continues. It will be a generation of predators.
Posted by: Whiskey Tango at October 26, 2016 09:23 AM (936zy)
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Great thread here everyone. I agree that a regular moron home schooling or education feature would be excellent. The commenters here have a great deal to offer.
Posted by: Emily at October 26, 2016 09:41 AM (QtkD6)
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On Texas voting. I live in a Houston suburban voting district, in a local election an obvious Latino lass in front of me offered her voting cert. and Texas drivers license. The poll official (black lady) noticed a difference in names on the documents, without hesitation told her to get her names straight before she votes in her county. God Bless Texas.
Posted by: Dick Taylor CSA at October 26, 2016 10:05 AM (E1CGA)
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Posted by: Lagnaut at October 26, 2016 10:24 AM (DJ35v)
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My youngest son asked, for his Christmas gift, a stripped lower receiver for an AR-15 build. Graduates as an Mech Engineer in April.
I am so proud.
I am so proud.
Posted by: tonypete at October 26, 2016 10:39 AM (akHM/)
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The typical male Hillary voter (note i didn't say supporter, i'll get to that) doesn't like guns, doesn't like war, would rather drive a Prirus than a Challenger or a pickup truck, avoids masculine lines of work meant to support wives and kids, and thinks if he has totally normal sexual relations with a woman and both parties are satisfied, he must have raped her. I blame low testosterone. However, that guy is white. A black male who supports Hillary (Tyrone refuses to/can't vote) likes guns, big cars, raping women (or at least rapping about it), and loots when he can't get what he wants. Tryone also thinks the only white male he'll ever run into is Pajama Boy and he's an easy mark. Tyrone will find out he is wrong when he meets me. TBH, i'd like to avoid manual labor myself, which is why i carry a pistol and plan on shooting Tyrone rather than having a fist fight.
Posted by: hurricane567 at October 26, 2016 12:01 PM (6de7J)
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In the Army, 33 years ago, now, I was taught a lesson. I wanted to be a pound my chest tough girl. Basically, I was handed my ass because I tried to open a door. The Colonel, a southern gentleman, stopped after I saluted. He addressed me and said, "Young lady, I see you everyday. And everyday, at least once, you see me. It is *I* who will open the door when you are in my presence. You are the lady, and this is my job. Try to remember that." And I did. It gave me great perspective about boys being boys--and later, men being themselves. I tried to teach my boys not to beat the shit out of each other, and to never lay a hand on their sisters, no matter what. Beyond that, I let them do what came naturally and so far, I am not disappointed. I have never read " Wild At Heart" but I promise to give both my boys and my girls a copy, with this blog printed out and tucked inside. We, as a country need to get back to basics and letting our sexes be whom they were meant to be. Everything seems so fucked up if we're thinking like the progressives, who don't believe in anything that matters, at least...in my world.
Posted by: DefendUSA at October 26, 2016 12:04 PM (nAHMK)
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#74
Rush made a generalization-- in fact, Reagan was behind by 9 until June/July 1980. In the end, the predictions were still that Carter would win. Reagan whooped him by 10% in the end. After the summer, then you have your 3-4 point difference.
Rush made a generalization-- in fact, Reagan was behind by 9 until June/July 1980. In the end, the predictions were still that Carter would win. Reagan whooped him by 10% in the end. After the summer, then you have your 3-4 point difference.
Posted by: DefendUSA at October 26, 2016 12:15 PM (nAHMK)
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I agree with all the above, but I think there's something left out. Nowadays, the counterarguments to the feminizers seem always to look at the physical exemplars of masculinity; again, that's fine as far as it goes, but it's incomplete.
The other side is the intellectual aggressiveness. The feminoids know this well, and years ago started on keeping boys from dominating classroom discussions. I recall explaining to a college girlfriend why, whenever a bunch of us got together, the guys ended up arguing about something. Sure, they could keep us from using fists or dueling pistols, but we're still going to fight, even if the blows are only verbal. (Note: she was not a feminist, and partly liked this about us, but was sometimes taken aback.)
I wish I could remember the title, but there's a fun G K Chesterton essay on exactly this, and on why men can't be friends with women the way they are with other men.
The other side is the intellectual aggressiveness. The feminoids know this well, and years ago started on keeping boys from dominating classroom discussions. I recall explaining to a college girlfriend why, whenever a bunch of us got together, the guys ended up arguing about something. Sure, they could keep us from using fists or dueling pistols, but we're still going to fight, even if the blows are only verbal. (Note: she was not a feminist, and partly liked this about us, but was sometimes taken aback.)
I wish I could remember the title, but there's a fun G K Chesterton essay on exactly this, and on why men can't be friends with women the way they are with other men.
Posted by: George LeS at October 26, 2016 12:56 PM (+TcCF)
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Good points! I spent last night with 7 rowdy cub scouts (9 and 10 years old). I was exhausted! But a wise scout leader reminded me that boys have lots of energy and short attention spans. "Squirrel!" anyone!
But it was also fun seeing them work on their physical and social skills. It was a good lesson in humility.
I raised both boys and girls, and regardless of what is pc, boys and girls are different in talents and abilities, and those differences should be allowed and celebrated, not squashed into conformity. It makes me sad to see boys bullied and not allowed to be who they are. BTW: next week I'll be more patient and work with them on THEIR level instead of trying to get them to work on mine!.
But it was also fun seeing them work on their physical and social skills. It was a good lesson in humility.
I raised both boys and girls, and regardless of what is pc, boys and girls are different in talents and abilities, and those differences should be allowed and celebrated, not squashed into conformity. It makes me sad to see boys bullied and not allowed to be who they are. BTW: next week I'll be more patient and work with them on THEIR level instead of trying to get them to work on mine!.
Posted by: Sally at October 26, 2016 01:51 PM (l2TLa)
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Give them some tools and encourage them to take things apart...and put them back together. When they get older teach them to--use a saw, build a box, paint a wall, change the oil in the truck, fix a flat on your bike, change a tire, solder copper pipes, use a level, read a blueprint, fix a sprinkler, did a hole, repair a lamp, wire a light switch, repair a hose, pitch a tent, start a fire, cook, feed the dog, respect and properly use firearms, cast a dry fly, handle a shotgun, skin a pheasant...and the list is endless. If you don't do it no one will. I did all these and more for my daughter and now I'm doing the same for her husband because his father did not.
Posted by: rocdoctom at October 26, 2016 02:07 PM (nP2eK)
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Very well said. One thing I think is good for my 11-year-old son is that when I give him a task -- in the backyard, garage, whatever it is and wherever -- I let him know what the end result needs to be. And then it's up to him to decide how to get there. As long as the job gets done and done well, it's none of my business really what tools, techniques, route or approach he employs. He was a little bit befuddled and even scared the first few times I did this a couple of years ago -- I think he had to unlearn the way one behaves and performs when being micromanaged by teachers and some other adults.
Posted by: Peoria at October 26, 2016 02:24 PM (Ovt8d)
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Manhood comes down to three principles every boy must learn to live by. First, only speak the truth. Second, protect the weak and vulnerable. Third, honor your commitments.
Posted by: Whiskey Tango at October 26, 2016 09:23 AM (936zy)
I love this. I think I'll make a sign for my nephew with this on it for Christmas.
Posted by: Whiskey Tango at October 26, 2016 09:23 AM (936zy)
I love this. I think I'll make a sign for my nephew with this on it for Christmas.
Posted by: mullingthingsover at October 26, 2016 03:15 PM (NrMU9)
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I want to echo a very tangible thing that can be done to turn boys into a proper man. Put them in Scouts. While not perfect, it is the only youth organization out there teaching a code of honor, self reliance, leadership, etc. The outdoors has always been a good teacher. BSA knows that and still puts on a very good program. I was a Scout as a boy (70's) and when I got back involved with my son, I found it was mostly the same organization. That pleased me because what it teaches is timeless. On top of that, they have a lot of fun and adventure, rather than just pretending to by using their thumbs in front of a screen
Posted by: Ned Samtee at October 26, 2016 04:16 PM (HHPuV)
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Know this: just as a tired puppy is a good puppy, so too a tired boy is a good boy. Keep 'em active, keep 'em moving. At the end of the day, you should have to carry them to bed, because they're too tired to get there on their own. An exhausted child has no time for mischief.
Posted by: big sarge at October 26, 2016 04:19 PM (mZwe6)
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I remember being at the range by the woods and my boy wanted to take the .357 snub and hunt a little by himself. At 8 years old he knew all the safety rules was as responsible as anyone. His mother had qualms. Within less than and hour he was back without firing a shot wanting to get on the range to shoot safely. He had demonstrated safety and good judgment even to his mothers satisfaction and I have trusted him ever since with a gun.
(Today he is a Captain in the Marines and a much better shot.)
(Today he is a Captain in the Marines and a much better shot.)
Posted by: 72 Virgins at October 26, 2016 04:55 PM (AB3kT)
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Has been since the 1970's. Female teachers have always hated boys, while giving preferential treatment to girls.
Posted by: Bruce1369 at October 26, 2016 05:06 PM (M8r9V)
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I have not read all the comments and I am late to the party, but there is one thing that bothers me when measuring test scores and other metrics concerning gender. Most boys are still growing between 15 through 18, when most girls have slowed our even stopped during high school years. The body to grow requires sleep and it will shut down to perform that function. Thus, a boy will require more sleep during growth spurts than girls will during the high school years, this affects their education specifically with rote memorization...while some may not be affected too much, others will to the point that it will effect grades. Just my observation has a parent.
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