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Posted by: weew at September 26, 2016 01:49 PM (EaEMG) Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 01:49 PM (jBuUi) 3
Obviously this Nate Silver character is a hack and a shill for Trump.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at September 26, 2016 01:50 PM (X+nFp) 4
If nothing else comes of Trump's presidency, the collective spaz out of the left will be memorable.
They are going to absolutely lose their shit. Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 26, 2016 01:51 PM (V3IFq) 5
If Nate "30 Pieces of" Silver says Hillary is gonna lose, then she must REALLY be gonna lose! He's been propping up the Dems for eight years.
Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 01:51 PM (jBuUi) 6
I wonder if Lester Holt's marching orders have changed?
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 26, 2016 01:51 PM (/HC6x) 7
There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary. And those who don't
Posted by: Drill Thrawl at September 26, 2016 01:51 PM (E1NNj) 8
This news pleases me.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 26, 2016 01:51 PM (34w2E) 9
And next week, he'll flip it to show a dramatic post debate bounce for h due to her commanding performance.
Posted by: A Blinkin at September 26, 2016 01:51 PM (dnWSK) Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 01:51 PM (hLRSq) Posted by: The Oxford English Dictionary, Yo at September 26, 2016 01:51 PM (zc3Db) 12
I thought at first that awful smell was Hillary's rotting corpse. My mistake.
Posted by: moon over vermont at September 26, 2016 01:52 PM (kUmUV) 13
People are getting wise to the rigged polls and starting to look at the internals where they are giving Scankles a 10%+ bias in States where the Dems either lost or won only by a narrow margin in the last election.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 26, 2016 01:52 PM (mpXpK) 14
If Trump wins, will Americas hat tip over?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2016 01:52 PM (J+eG2) 15
Shit's about to get real, yo.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 26, 2016 01:52 PM (WlGX+) 16
But, what about my legacy?
Posted by: Barry Obama, personally insulted at September 26, 2016 01:53 PM (jkkMG) 17
7 There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary. And those who don't
Posted by: Drill Thrawl No, there are 11 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary, those who don't, and those like us who keep making this hilarious joke! Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 01:53 PM (jBuUi) 18
Clinton +100 in National Association of Deceased Voters poll.
Posted by: THIS JUST IN!!!! at September 26, 2016 01:53 PM (qJhUV) 19
Binary? Nary a bi in sight. It's all gay, all the way.
Posted by: wooga at September 26, 2016 01:53 PM (FcoEk) 20
1% chance for SMOD? I like those odds!
Posted by: deplorable shillelagh at September 26, 2016 01:53 PM (L3vVL) 21
"Oddly, those two figures sum to 100% -- yet I was told this was not a "Binary" election!!! I don't understand."
This is a carbon election: Jill Stein deplores carbon. Gary Johnson emits carbon. Donald Trump is a carbon-based life-form. Hillary Clinton sequesters carbon. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 01:53 PM (hLRSq) 22
Egg McMuffin supporters still hanging on to his excellent 3.2×10^-87 odds of a comet strike hitting the debate.
Posted by: TexasJew at September 26, 2016 01:53 PM (F8kJT) 23
Hillary has a whole 'nother month...to sink further
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2016 01:53 PM (c6/9Q) 24
Zombie. Heh
Posted by: Drill Thrawl at September 26, 2016 01:54 PM (E1NNj) Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 01:54 PM (hLRSq) 26
14 If Trump wins, will Americas hat tip over?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice No, but our Guam certainly will. Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 01:54 PM (jBuUi) 27
Of course, I fully expect that if Hillary manages to escape tonight with a pulse, the MFM will gin up a phony 5-point "bounce" in the polls.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 26, 2016 01:54 PM (WlGX+) 28
I do not know what to think until Luntz's Dunces come through with their penetrating, mouth drooling analysis this evening. Sorry, fellers, that's just the way I roll... Heh! Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2016 01:55 PM (BK3ZS) Posted by: ArthurK at September 26, 2016 01:55 PM (h53OH) 30
Would this qualify as a Shartnado?
Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 26, 2016 01:55 PM (AfbS9) 31
Oh. They happy joy I feel to hear the collective left drop their shit. SPLAT.... Oh joy.
Posted by: USNtakim at September 26, 2016 01:55 PM (hMqvx) 32
Fingers crossed for tonight's debate, if it goes well, it should swing things even further to Trump.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 26, 2016 01:55 PM (dGW8H) 33
The #NeverCruz / #NeverTrump conservative commentariat is now on day 4 of being apoplectic because Ted Cruz will not vote for Hillary. The #NeverTrump crowd never stopped despising and mocking Cruz when he wouldn't endorse Trump yet now they are suddenly indignant that he has "betrayed" them.
Posted by: AstroBevo at September 26, 2016 01:55 PM (DZF+K) 34
Hey you guys.
Evan McMullin is gonna do a live YouTube feed tonight where he answers Lester Holt's questions like he was actually there! No word if Bill Kristol will be watching. Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 01:56 PM (21hN3) 35
Isn't "538" drug-world slang for "Quick, hide the stash up your punani -- the cops are banging on the door!"?
Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 01:56 PM (jBuUi) 36
HE'LL PUT US ALL IN THE CAMPS!!!
Posted by: The Hysterical Sally Kohn at September 26, 2016 01:56 PM (qJhUV) 37
does hillarykaine make anyone else think of hurrycane?
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 01:56 PM (cPsPa) 38
Prediction; the left and the msm will $hit all over Nate Silver now.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 26, 2016 01:57 PM (iONHu) 39
OK --- now we just need Hillary to hold on until it is too late to replace her.
*fingers, arms, and legs crossed!!* Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2016 01:57 PM (NOIQH) 40
2 Hey, that was me who said "the entire left just sharted."
And I'm glad they did! Posted by: zombie ----------' I was really expecting an Al Roker sock on that comment. Posted by: Chi at September 26, 2016 01:57 PM (SmF1m) 41
When I find myself thinking, "I hope we know what we're doing" I remind myself that it may be funnier if it turns out we did not.
Posted by: spongeworthy at September 26, 2016 01:57 PM (mrfTe) 42
"Evan McMullin is gonna do a live YouTube feed tonight where he answers Lester Holt's questions like he was actually there!"
Then it is exactly like Fantasy Football but with politics. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 01:57 PM (hLRSq) 43
hillary has trump right where she wants him now.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 01:58 PM (cPsPa) 44
Debate guarantee:
1. Trump will use some hyperbole. 2. Hillary will call him a liar for it. 3. Media will spend next four days explaining how Trump is a liar and how awesome Hillary is for calling him out. 4. Bonus if Trump tries to defend himself, as the media gets to call him a bully too. Posted by: wooga at September 26, 2016 01:58 PM (FcoEk) 45
I'm bummed that all the cool reviews of hillary's book were blasted into oblivion by amazon...sad
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2016 01:58 PM (c6/9Q) 46
So instead of the big-spender self-dealing Democrat (D) we're getting the big-spender self-dealing Democrat (R). Awesome.
Posted by: thrill at September 26, 2016 01:58 PM (n7Lib) 47
I thought there was no math allowed here
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 26, 2016 01:58 PM (s+qMR) 48
Serious question: What happens if she, you know, passes out on camera?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 26, 2016 01:58 PM (B+qrE) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2016 01:58 PM (J+eG2) Posted by: Cigar Smokers for Clinton at September 26, 2016 01:58 PM (CFAp3) Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 26, 2016 01:59 PM (vUuJ6) 52
The left is figuratively crapping its pants today, in solidarity with Hillary, who will (hopefully) be literally crapping her pants tonight.
Posted by: Revenant at September 26, 2016 01:59 PM (3DSAh) 53
People should be understating their support for Trump so that the left will be blindsided. If they know the truth, they will cheat. Remember, they are sociopaths who are in the habit of rationalizing away any scummy act that they wish to do.
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 26, 2016 01:59 PM (iFgwk) 54
Oddly, those two figures sum to 100% -- yet I was told this was not a "Binary" election!!! I don't understand.
I understand just a little, no comprenda its a riddle! Posted by: Wall of Vodoo at September 26, 2016 01:59 PM (/HC6x) 55
yeah, you would think she would want her podium as close to the floor as possible.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 01:59 PM (cPsPa) 56
So instead of the big-spender self-dealing Democrat (D) we're getting the big-spender self-dealing Democrat (R). Awesome.
You go to war with the army you have. In the end, this is not even remotely a difficult choice. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 26, 2016 01:59 PM (B+qrE) 57
Well that's a comfort. But the only poll that counts is taken in November. My lace curtain Irish friends who are horrified that Trump speaks in vulgarian will have a stroke if he wins.
I'm going to have a Saturday dinner with a group of old college friends four days after the election is over. Half of them will be in sackcloth and ashes, rending their garments, and their women will be wailing lamentations. Thing is, I can't figure out which half will be crying. it will be an amusing evening no matter who wins. Posted by: Skeptical Voter at September 26, 2016 02:00 PM (Sda6L) 58
What's that sound? Hollywood is busy summoning up celebrities for a flood of anti-Trump PSAs and Hillary campaign events.
If you thought the "The West Wing" cast's 'let's get the fake administration band back together!' tour was pathetic, watch what happens next. Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2016 02:00 PM (NOIQH) 59
Remember, that's the "If the election was held today" prediction number. The other models have it close but still going for Hillary. The weird thing is that 538 still has Hillary ahead in the electoral college with the 54.5 to 45.5 odds split.
Posted by: darii at September 26, 2016 02:00 PM (RdrW8) 60
"Evan McMullin is gonna do a live YouTube feed tonight where he answers Lester Holt's questions like he was actually there!"
What about Gary Johnson? Will he try to talk with his tongue out again? Because that was ... entertaining the first time he did it. Posted by: IC at September 26, 2016 02:00 PM (a0IVu) 61
So instead of the big-spender self-dealing Democrat (D) we're getting the big-spender self-dealing Democrat (R). Awesome.
Posted by: thrill at September 26, 2016 01:58 PM (n7Lib) you are assuming facts not in evidence Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:00 PM (cPsPa) 62
Evan McMullin is gonna do a live YouTube feed tonight where he answers Lester Holt's questions like he was actually there!
Who? Posted by: Everyone in America at September 26, 2016 02:00 PM (/HC6x) 63
H bot could shart a gallon of antifreeze tonight and they'll call it macaroni....uh presidential.
Posted by: A Blinkin at September 26, 2016 02:00 PM (dnWSK) 64
Well it is binary because no 3rd party has any chance whatsoever. O electoral votes for 3rd parties since... I don't really want to look it up. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 26, 2016 02:01 PM (ODxAs) Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 26, 2016 02:01 PM (kdS6q) Posted by: guy who confuses Christmas and Halloween at September 26, 2016 02:01 PM (3Liv/) 67
Welp, I was holding out,holding out, holding out along with Cruz in not voting for Trump and then it just started to not make sense to me.
After all who am I to stand in the way of the party and yeah I was a bit miffed as Ted was so than God he endorsed Trump. It lessens the blow for me to vote Trump. I have a clear mind now. Posted by: Drider at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (bdzyz) 68
I, for one, will be a million miles away from any functioning TV set tonight. No way am I gonna actually watch this debate.
No way will I let raw propaganda touch my retinas and eardrums. I choose my filters carefully. Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (jBuUi) 69
Serious question: What happens if she, you know, passes out on camera?
Posted by: Circa I'm sure it's on a 7 second delay. If she goes down, they'll go to 'breaking news' and then have the round table post-debate clowns praise her performance. Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (V3IFq) Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (9P3OG) 71
Put the cocks back in your pants. PUT THEM BACK!
Posted by: Winston Wolfe at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (RD7QR) 72
>>NeverTrumpers would be wise to save face.
Think the Scott Adams switch was indicative of that. He wasn't NeverTrump, but honest about what was in it for him to be voting Hillary. And he's sure enough that Hillary's policies and message are bad enough to now publicly switch to voting Trump. Who will follow after Cruz and Adams? Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (NOIQH) 73
O electoral votes for 3rd parties since... I don't really want to look it up.
1968. George Wallace. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (B+qrE) 74
What a strange coincidence -- Both the NYT and WaPo have published editorials on why DT shouldn't be preezy. And just before the 1st debate no less.
Their flop sweat could drown the East Coast. Posted by: GnuBreed, powering through his deplorability at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (gyKtp) 75
Silver will be dumpstered by the media.....in 3, 2, 1.
Posted by: J. Comey at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (l2Jd8) 76
Gary Johnson will smoke a bowl and yell at his television during the debate.
Posted by: steevy at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (fA75F) 77
If you thought the "The West Wing" cast's 'let's get the fake administration band back together!' tour was pathetic, watch what happens next.
We are getting back together to save you, Hillary! Posted by: The Cast of Punky Brewster at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (/HC6x) 78
BREAKING: Hillary Clinton's campaign has unveiled their new theme song for the home stretch this election season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qc_TxBTKlE Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (LuZz8) Posted by: MSM at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (ODxAs) 80
Who is Evan McMuffinTop's putative running mate? I'm guessing Poppin' Fresh from Tepid Air. Baked Goods for Preznint 2016! Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (BK3ZS) 81
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Well it is binary because no 3rd party has any chance whatsoever. O electoral votes for 3rd parties since... I don't really want to look it up. Posted by: Guy Mohawk Ross Perot in '92, presumably. Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (jBuUi) 82
All right, Trump's going to win. I hope this means Trump supporters will stop bullying people who have decided not to vote for the guy.
Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (O7MnT) 83
Shit. Comey, get away!
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (l2Jd8) 84
But seriously, folks, if Trump steps on his unit in the debates -- or even if Hillary fails to step on hers -- these numbers will change. We still have six weeks.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (RD7QR) 85
Conway or Bannon must read this blog - apparently Mark Geist has been invited to the debate! Let him sit right in front of Hillary, please!!!!
Posted by: IC at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (a0IVu) Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (kdS6q) 87
Haha, they're entering the Long Game phase at Daily Kos: "Progress has never been an uninterrupted move forward." Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (oGNNA) 88
Assume Trump and Hillary are equally bad.
I still vote for Trump because: - Congress will stop Trump from doing evil. - Congress will analingus Hillary to do evil, with the entire federal bureaucracy and media cheering her on. Posted by: wooga at September 26, 2016 02:04 PM (FcoEk) 89
There's an assumption that the EC favors Hillary. But the EC gives more weight to smaller states which are mostly fly-over and red.
PA is no longer a must win for Trump. It is for Hillary. MI too. I've got a four hour Schadenboner. Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2016 02:04 PM (r1fLd) 90
What I don't get is the percentages show Trump ahead, but the state-by-state map (if you tally them all up) has Hillary getting more EC votes. Is Silver going by trend lines here?
Granted, if you add all the states in red up, you get 266 (I think) which is really close, but not a win, so I'm not sure why he has Trump over the 50 mark now. I would have guessed mid- to high 40s. Posted by: T at September 26, 2016 02:04 PM (IKdzI) 91
"No way will I let raw propaganda touch my retinas and eardrums. I choose my filters carefully."
Best filter in the world? Shut the TV off, and let the Horde inform you in the comment section. That's my plan, anyhow. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2016 02:04 PM (J+eG2) 92
"Gary Johnson will smoke a bowl and yell at his television during the debate."
And eat like three bowls of Ramen. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 26, 2016 02:04 PM (l2Jd8) 93
from now on, whatever you program into nate silvers gps, everything goes through fort marcy park.
san diego to houston goes through fort marcy park. Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:05 PM (cPsPa) 94
"All right, Trump's going to win. I hope this means Trump supporters will stop bullying people who have decided not to vote for the guy."
Only if he wins. If he loses by this much > Then yes. Your a full fledged Hillary supporter by default. I'm sure you see the simple logic in that. Posted by: Drider at September 26, 2016 02:05 PM (bdzyz) 95
One of the LIVs I work with (Sanders in the primary) was looking at the latest poll numbers and said something like, Wow, I didn't know that Trump closed the gap in so many states. I just think that many people of my generation (Millennial) and minorities just don't care about this election and will probably stay home. Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2016 02:05 PM (493sH) Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (AfbS9) 97
Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (NOIQH)
I strongly suspect that Adams has upgraded his personal security as well before announcing the switch. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (GDulk) 98
My tinfoil hat is telling me that they're just positioning to be able to call Clinton the "comeback kid" or some such if she doesn't drop dead on the stage tonight.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (UBzPO) 99
95 "No way will I let raw propaganda touch my retinas and eardrums. I choose my filters carefully."
Best filter in the world? Shut the TV off, and let the Horde inform you in the comment section. That's my plan, anyhow. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice Yep. My plan too. Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (jBuUi) 100
>>Serious question: What happens if she, you know, passes out on camera?
Yes, time delay. What happens *after* that depends on her polling? I would bet the long knives come out for her, Barack Obama style (i.e. no fingerprints, done by some 3rd party - a journalist, maybe) in effort to get Biden on the ticket ASAP. Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (NOIQH) Posted by: Serious Cat at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (Uy6ri) 102
79 Gary Johnson will smoke a bowl and yell at his television during the debate.
Probably the best way to watch Posted by: A Blinkin at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (dnWSK) 103
Perusing 538: Killery still way up in VA, 6-8 points, doesn't look like Trump's going to grab that one.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (WlGX+) 104
96 "Gary Johnson will smoke a bowl and
And eat like three bowls of Ramen. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 26, 2016 02:04 PM (l2Jd One minor fix, but that's about the size of it. Posted by: deplorable jwb7605 at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (DofIg) 105
In before the Poll Trool and "Monmouth".
I saw Poll Troll and Monmouth open for Styx (without Dennis DeYoung) at the Mason County Fair in 2005. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (/HC6x) 106
frankly, i don't buy it, that trump is the favorite.
the only supporting factor is that there already is an unprecedented republican majority from a rising tide repudiating the democrats over the past 4 years. in that context a trump victory, any republican victory, makes sense. Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 26, 2016 02:07 PM (WTSFk) 107
79 Gary Johnson will smoke a bowl and yell at his television during the debate.
Pretty much how it's going to be at my pad. Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 26, 2016 02:07 PM (WlGX+) 108
But that doesn't factor in all the voting fraud. by the Clinton Crime Syndicate
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 26, 2016 02:07 PM (EnGQE) Posted by: Pepe, The Irredeemable at September 26, 2016 02:07 PM (vUuJ6) 110
The obvious question should be "Why does Ohio hate women and blacks"?
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 26, 2016 02:07 PM (NuElX) 111
95 "No way will I let raw propaganda touch my retinas and eardrums. I choose my filters carefully."
Best filter in the world? Shut the TV off, and let the Horde inform you in the comment section. That's my plan, anyhow. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice Yep. My plan too. Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (jBuUi) sigh, shameful as it is, that, with periodic shot of Drudge is my plan as well. Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:07 PM (cPsPa) Posted by: A Blinkin at September 26, 2016 02:07 PM (dnWSK) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2016 02:07 PM (J+eG2) Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (BK3ZS) 115
I think this significantly raises the chances of Hillary passing out on stage tonight and suspending campaign with Biden eventually replacing her.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (mN+tK) 116
Posted by: thrill at September 26, 2016 01:58 PM (n7Lib)
There is no evidence that Donald Trump ever sold or compromised the top secret information of this country. There is evidence he would do such thing. These two sentences are enough for me. Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (G2Sc9) Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (EnGQE) 118
That's my plan, anyhow.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice Yep. My plan too. Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (jBuUi) Well, shoot, if we're all doing this, is anyone actually gonna watch? Posted by: Pug Mahon of the Clan Deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (RwwCT) 119
Quick, some Photoshop wizard need to get on this one, http://tinyurl.com/h5xtvxp ...
and do the following: * change the big name on the box to "Hitlery-Kaine" * change the smaller print on the box to "Tyranny Edition" * change the U.S. flag to a Hammer & Sickle. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (v5iqM) 120
96 "Gary Johnson will smoke a bowl and yell giggle at his television during the debate."
And eat like three bowls of Ramen. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 26, 2016 02:04 PM (l2Jd well, he is also going to take a drink of tequila every time someone mentions a leppo. Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (cPsPa) 121
Is Nate Silver at Five Thirty Eight? I usually look there every day.
Posted by: Carol at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (sj3Ax) 122
Shit, zombie.
Just the thought of seeing her stroke out on live TV is enough to make me watch. I wouldn't miss that for a million bucks. I may watch with the tube on mute, playing Billy Squier's "The Stroke" as a background soundtrack. . Posted by: Chi at September 26, 2016 02:09 PM (SmF1m) 123
What happens *after* that depends on her polling?
I would bet the long knives come out for her, Barack Obama style (i.e. no fingerprints, done by some 3rd party - a journalist, maybe) in effort to get Biden on the ticket ASAP. Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (NOIQH) I wonder if Trump would be astute enough to point out that there were still 3 candidates to vote for, should Hillary bow out? It seems to me that the Democrats really can't use the "no choice" argument. Posted by: deplorable jwb7605 at September 26, 2016 02:09 PM (DofIg) Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:09 PM (Hb9w3) 125
Don't bogart that joint my friend and pass it over to me.
I still don't know what an "Aleppo" is. Posted by: Gary Johnson at September 26, 2016 02:09 PM (j8rhH) 126
Hey, wait a minute.
Not everyone can just sit back and read the comments tonight. Some of you bastards need to step up to the plate, and take a hit for the team. Line forms over there>>>>>>>>>>>>> Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2016 02:09 PM (J+eG2) 127
Posted by: thrill at September 26, 2016 01:58 PM (n7Lib)
There is no evidence that Donald Trump ever sold or compromised the top secret information of this country. There is evidence he would do such thing. These two sentences are enough for me. Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (G2Sc9) yep, trump never violated his oath to you. Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (cPsPa) Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (B+qrE) 129
7 There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary. And those who don't
-- there are 2 kinds of people in the world. Those who think that there are 2 kinds of people in the world, and those who do not. I am one of the latter. Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (PNcou) 130
Here in Las Vegas I have not seen one Cankles sign, bumper sticker. Only the old Barry Goldwater commercial with the Nuke Exploding.... Followed by a picture of a smiling Donald Trump....
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (NuElX) 131
From me, I believe.
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (4e+hS) 132
What I want to hear from Trump tonight:
If elected, I will prosecute Hillary Clinton. That's it. That's all. He has my vote sewed up if I hear that. Or uses these words in regards to her ghastliness: "Unindicted" "Yet to be charged" "Highly investigated" Posted by: trendingdown at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (C0NKJ) 133
Posted by: IC at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (a0IVu)
Flowers would have been better though. Hill is too much of a psycho to feel guilt over her or Bill's victims. Humiliation though? I'm betting she can still feel that. Even added anger might be enough to burn through her meds before the debate is over. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (GDulk) 134
Killery still way up in VA, 6-8 points, doesn't look like Trump's going to grab that one.
Virginia has become a red state with a blue tail (DC burbs) that wags the dog. It's how libs flip states and its stunning that GOP-run bluetail states don't adopt Nebraska and Maine's Electoral vote system. Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (O7MnT) 135
Well, shoot, if we're all doing this, is anyone actually gonna watch?
Oh, I'm gonna watch it live. I hate them both, but I don't want to miss it when an O-ring fails and she spurts hydraulic fluid all over the stage. Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (mgbwf) 136
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Doubt it. Silver's the one who gave them hope in 2012 when Romney seemed to be leading in national polls by saying "look at the state polls, look at the state polls." They'll be hoping for whom to come up with some magical figures showing Hillary ahead. It's only if a Trump victory becomes glaringly obvious that they'll start lashing out at him and others. And boy, a lashing out there will be in that case. Posted by: T at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (IKdzI) 137
I mean, everybody understands that Hillary could swallow a gopher whole onstage while howling "We will soon do this to the whole of the human race!" and would still be declared the winner, right?
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (RD7QR) 138
Shut the TV off, and let the Horde inform you in the comment section. ----------------- As far as I can tell, 100% of us are going to do that. We could all be sitting here at our keyboards going "I wonder what's happening!" and "I've got it on without sound and they're kind of waving their hands a bit" and "What are you drinking?" Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (oGNNA) 139
114 The obvious question should be "Why does Ohio hate women and blacks"?
because the Browns suck so bad? Posted by: navycopjoe at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (f7T7k) 140
I SHALL PREDICT THE FUTURE
The audience for tonight's debate will be huge, everyone wants to see if Hillary will collapse on live TV. The questions are irrelevant. IF Hillary gets any difficult questions she will give a non-answer and no one will ask a followup. Trump will be on a short leash and will appear 'presidential' Hillary's team will pump her full of more meds than an East German lady swimmer and after the debate the media will declare her 'fit for presidential duty' On seeing and hearing this voters will believe it and Hillary gets a big post debate bump and will lead in national polls by 2% (whithin the margin or error) Posted by: anon at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (yCcA0) 141
I only hopes this sends a message to those that believe they 'rule' us... they better up their game, because we see them now.
Posted by: willow at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (A1MMY) 142
My dealers, er um, donors have told me if I don't get out and endorse Hillary they'll have my body dumped in a leppo. Is that bad?
Posted by: Gary Johnson at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (fgOnp) 143
... that trump was trailing clinton, and at times badly, is testament to his own flaws as a candidate, not clinton's effectiveness or democrat support.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (WTSFk) 144
96 "Gary Johnson will smoke a bowl and yell at his television during the debate."
And eat like three bowls of Ramen. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 26, 2016 02:04 PM (l2Jd === And get triggered when Trump uses the phrase "illegal immigrants." Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formerly known as Serenity Now!) at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (BDZWU) 145
I'm going to watch tonight, but only to cheer for a 30 car pileup.
Posted by: TexasDan at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (FnuZG) 146
I hope this means Trump supporters will stop bullying people who have decided not to vote for the guy."
Bully? Nonsense. I'm just going to stick hatpins in their ears while they sleep. ;^) I am kidding; i haven't done much bullying unless calling someone a troll-and later apologizing counts. Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (EnGQE) 147
I just got a poll question from the Trump campaign...What specific scandal of HRC do you want Trump to focus on tonight.
I put 'All of the Above' but then realized it is only a 90 minute debate. Posted by: Cheri at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (oiNtH) 148
(A) Don't get cocky, kids.
(B) Hillary expended a lot of resources to lose her lead over Donald Trump. Just like Jeb! What happens if her donors begin to balk about sending in "one more check" and she finds herself running out before the end? Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (hLRSq) 149
Flowers would have been better though. Hill is too much of a psycho to feel guilt over her or Bill's victims. Humiliation though? I'm betting she can still feel that. Even added anger might be enough to burn through her meds before the debate is over.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (GDulk) Polly! have you not been around lately or hav I not been around enough? Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (cPsPa) 150
the obvious question ask Trump is 'Why do you hate white women from Arkansas"????
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (NuElX) 151
After so long in the political wilderness A small ray of warmth to start the spring thaw has me looking up. Though Lucy is there with her football. Do I dare...?
Posted by: USNtakim at September 26, 2016 02:12 PM (hMqvx) 152
Trump better throw people in jail like a Latin American Caudillo or this will all be for naught.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 26, 2016 02:12 PM (QQ+il) Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 26, 2016 02:12 PM (G2Sc9) 154
the only thing I want to see in the debate is Trump reach over, pimp slap Hillary, and say "shut up you lying bitch"
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 26, 2016 02:12 PM (f7T7k) 155
... in fact, given the rising republican tide the past 4 years, shouldn't we have expected a republican win and handily?
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 26, 2016 02:12 PM (WTSFk) 156
The media is really pushing the Secretary Brain Damage will try and get under Trump's skin strategy.
Posted by: Very Undude at September 26, 2016 02:12 PM (2X7pN) Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 26, 2016 02:13 PM (EnGQE) 158
Who knew Nate Silver was a Racist?
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 26, 2016 02:13 PM (vV/gB) 159
"Shit.
There is NO evidence he would do such A thing. " It's OK. Let he who is without Auto-Cucumber Fail cast the first stone. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2016 02:13 PM (J+eG2) 160
It's only if a Trump victory becomes glaringly obvious that they'll start lashing out at him and others. And boy, a lashing out there will be in that case. Posted by: T at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (IKdzI) ------------------ What are they gonna do? They've already shot their "Trump is Hitler" wad. Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 02:13 PM (oGNNA) 161
O electoral votes for 3rd parties since... I don't really want to look it up.
1968. George Wallace. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 26, 2016 02:02 PM (B+qrE) Since I was 5. Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:13 PM (Hb9w3) 162
That's pretty big when one of the founders of Journolist-
coughs up a positive result for Trump. This is getting close to "shit is too obvious time" since we're a little over a month away from the election- Silver needs to start dishing out real stats or lose his status as the go to guy for political statistics.* *Even though, he was a founder of Journolist and thus by definition a faithless Democrat hack. Posted by: naturalfake at September 26, 2016 02:13 PM (0cMkb) 163
Nate Silver is the libs' gold standard.
They must indeed be deficating all over their wimpy probate parts. Posted by: Ace Is The Place at September 26, 2016 02:13 PM (TuUK9) 164
Trump supporters bullying? fgs. like Trump supporters had the media on their side for the last several months.
you know with that racist Nazi b.s from nro, wsj, hotair. etc? Posted by: willow at September 26, 2016 02:14 PM (A1MMY) 165
163
Posted by: IC at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (a0IVu) Who is Mike Geist? Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 26, 2016 02:13 PM (EnGQE) Benghazi survivor. Posted by: IC at September 26, 2016 02:14 PM (a0IVu) 166
>>>Well, shoot, if we're all doing this, is anyone actually gonna watch?
Posted by: Pug Mahon of the Clan Deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (RwwCT) I'M WATCHING!! You just have to filter out what's actually occurring from random delusions and Winona visions. Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 26, 2016 02:14 PM (d9v6L) 167
All right, Trump's going to win. I hope this means Trump supporters will stop bullying people who have decided not to vote for the guy.
Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (O7MnT) ------------------------- Safe space request noted. Posted by: RioBravo at September 26, 2016 02:14 PM (NUqwG) 168
162 The media is really pushing the Secretary Brain Damage will try and get under Trump's skin strategy.
Posted by: Very Undude at September 26, 2016 02:12 PM (2X7pN) Hillary has a clear advantage. She can make eye contact with the entire audience and the cameras simultaneously. Posted by: deplorable jwb7605 at September 26, 2016 02:14 PM (DofIg) 169
How could they put Biden on the ticket with early voting already started? Would have to be a lot of shenanigans.
Posted by: Infidel at September 26, 2016 02:14 PM (Z1SI2) 170
Watching some of my liberal friends totally loose their shit would be a new kind of schadenfreude, even better than flaming skull double pudding cups.
Then again, the only way I'll believe it is if it happens. I stopped wish casting after 2012 and the GOPe stabbed me in the back. Posted by: Gmac- Deplorable forever 'All politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at September 26, 2016 02:15 PM (m5VjQ) 171
Well, shoot, if we're all doing this, is anyone actually gonna watch?
Oh, I'm gonna watch it live. I hate them both, but I don't want to miss it when an O-ring fails and she spurts hydraulic fluid all over the stage. Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (mgbwf) well if her exoskeleton gets hacked by someone who programs in the dougie or plays a feedback loop of her screeching into her ear microphone I will watch the clip on Drudge. Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:15 PM (cPsPa) 172
NATE SILVER IS JUST SAYING.. 'GET OUT THE VOTE' now
Posted by: willow at September 26, 2016 02:15 PM (A1MMY) 173
in fact, given the rising republican tide the past 4 years, shouldn't we have expected a republican win and handily?
Expected it in 2012. Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:15 PM (Hb9w3) 174
HILLARY: And now I will sacrifice this chicken to Cthulhu!
CHICKEN: Squaaaaaaaawk! PUNDITS: A brilliant performance on Hillary's part! Please kill us last, oh Dark One! Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 26, 2016 02:15 PM (RD7QR) 175
Hillary is going to be lowered in from the ceiling supported by an adult sized baby jumper. Feet won't even touch the floor.
This will make her head bobbing and weaving indistinguishable from her vertical body bouncing. Posted by: The media Suxs at September 26, 2016 02:15 PM (vhuiM) 176
We'll see in 3 weeks how things look. So much can change in so short a time period.
The left is clearly panicking though, they are shotgunning everything they can possibly come up with right now, hoping some pellet hits home. Right now its "Trump LIIIEEESSS!!!!!" as loud as possible. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (39g3+) 177
If you thought the "The West Wing" cast's 'let's get the fake administration band back together!' tour was pathetic, watch what happens next.
We're here for you, Hillary! Posted by: The cast of "Baywatch Nights" at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (KUTP5) 178
Nate Silver's site now says Trump is 54.5% likely to win, and Hillary is just is at just 45.5%.
The left's search for a new Sirhan Sirhan begins tonight. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (X6fMO) 179
Everything is working according to my plan for a 269-269 tie which the House will elect Egg McMuffin.
Posted by: Rick Wilson GOP Stategist at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (OD2ni) 180
Clinton may try to get under Trump's skin prompting him to say something untoward but I think he will be prepared for that. Will she be prepared for Trump to do the same? How will she react. That YT video of her screeching like an angry drunk won't play well.
I can't stand it but I will watch and be with you all here at the horde. Posted by: Cheri at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (oiNtH) 181
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (cPsPa)
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? What is there involving an oath that involves the selling or mishandling of classified information? The #NeverTrumpers are as mentally deranged as the Democrats. Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (G2Sc9) 182
Posted by: Pug Mahon of the Clan Deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (RwwCT)
Since that's my plan too, I was sort of wonderingwho we would be sacrificing to the information gods. Jane D'oh frequently volunteers as tribute, but with her recent blood pressure issues that might notbe wise. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (GDulk) 183
What are they gonna do? They've already shot their "Trump is Hitler" wad.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 02:13 PM (oGNNA) Trump is SuperMegaUltraHitler!!!!!!!11111!!!!!!1 Posted by: Every Progtard Everywhere at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (0cMkb) 184
179 NATE SILVER IS JUST SAYING.. 'GET OUT THE VOTE' now
Posted by: willow at September 26, 2016 02:15 PM (A1MMY) He's actually staying true to what he said last week which was if the polls don't change in a week, start worrying. I didn't see what could happen to make them change so this isn't surprising. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (4ErVI) 185
Earlier, I thought they were making a funny.
Now....not so much http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=297614 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (J+eG2) 186
bah
Posted by: woah, the poor hillary supporters, on our side and of course the lefts.. how you have malignedf us at September 26, 2016 02:17 PM (A1MMY) 187
meh, who knows, the dems are devious enough to run some trump is winning psyop as well as fanatic enough to sacrifice themselves in the psyop.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:17 PM (cPsPa) 188
"From Lemmiwinks, I think, who says "the entire left just sharted."
So that's what I'm smelling! I was thinking Russ Feingold had to be in the vicinity.... Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at September 26, 2016 02:17 PM (u0lmX) 189
184 If you thought the "The West Wing" cast's 'let's get the fake administration band back together!' tour was pathetic, watch what happens next.
We're here for you, Hillary! Posted by: The cast of "Baywatch Nights" at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (KUTP5) Oh, Baywatch Nights. Baywatch + The X-Files. How could it fail? Posted by: josephistan at September 26, 2016 02:17 PM (7HtZB) 190
More dazed disbelief from Kos: >>The real freak show is how much money Clinton has poured into advertisements vs Trump. This election is a total freakout. Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 02:17 PM (oGNNA) 191
You can guarantee 4 things.
1) Hillary will be introduced already at the podium, without walking anywhere 2) She will be wearing glasses to control that wandering eye and protect her from glare and distractions 3) She will have a much more difficult to spot earpiece that CNN will make sure they don't shoot any camera angles toward. 4) She will be lit and made up in such a way to look young and healthy and vibrant, while Trump will be yellowish and sinister. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:18 PM (39g3+) Posted by: DONALD TRUMP at September 26, 2016 02:18 PM (4e+hS) 193
Hillary still owns a lot of potential bad things from here to November.
Obama can help gin up black turnout but only at the margin. MSM already made its move for Hillary too much, too soon. Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2016 02:18 PM (r1fLd) 194
In the 1992 election, [Perot] received 18.9% of the popular vote, approximately 19,741,065 votes (but no electoral college votes), making him the most successful third-party presidential candidate in terms of the popular vote since Theodore Roosevelt in the 1912 election. Unlike Perot, however, some other third party candidates since Roosevelt have won electoral college votes. (Robert La Follette had 13 in 1924, Strom Thurmond had 39 in 1948, George Wallace had 46 in 1968 and John Hospers won one in 1972, albeit from a faithless elector).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 26, 2016 02:18 PM (R+30W) 195
"Let's not start ... "
Posted by: Winston Wolf at September 26, 2016 02:18 PM (hSk36) 196
103 95 "No way will I let raw propaganda touch my retinas and eardrums. I choose my filters carefully."
Best filter in the world? Shut the TV off, and let the Horde inform you in the comment section. That's my plan, anyhow. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice Yep. My plan too. Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 02:06 PM (jBuUi) Same. Besides, I have important shit to do. Like, drink beer. Posted by: Deplorable 98ZJUSMC at September 26, 2016 02:19 PM (c4ehu) 197
All right, Trump's going to win. I hope this means Trump supporters will stop bullying people who have decided not to vote for the guy.
Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (O7MnT) You can keep your virtue unsullied. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 02:19 PM (hLRSq) 198
TRUMP pulls out a small rapidly blinking flashlight and aims it at Hillary
HILLARY's head starts rotating, pea soup shooting out of her mouth as she croaks out words in Aramaic. Thick smoke begins coming out of her pantsuit. LESTER HOLT: And that's why Hillary is the most talented candidate ever! *quickly cuts to commercial* Posted by: Ian S. at September 26, 2016 02:19 PM (KUTP5) 199
If Hillary can pull this off the camps are going to be very crowded.
Posted by: Ripley at September 26, 2016 02:19 PM (1BQGO) 200
Rick Wilson After Trump Endorsement, Evan McMullin Is The New Ted Cruz. Yes, but I believe there's an ointment you can get for that..... Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 26, 2016 02:19 PM (kdS6q) 201
I'm listening to Cruz tell Beck why he wrote he's voting Trump.
Posted by: Carol at September 26, 2016 02:19 PM (sj3Ax) 202
in fact, given the rising republican tide the past 4 years, shouldn't we have expected a republican win and handily?
--------------------- Perhaps if the tide were generally lapping something other than the least populated states. Posted by: RioBravo at September 26, 2016 02:19 PM (NUqwG) 203
Lester Holt is a registered Republican. Everyone knows that right?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2016 02:20 PM (UBzPO) Posted by: woah, the poor hillary supporters, on our side and of course the lefts.. how you have malignedf us at September 26, 2016 02:20 PM (A1MMY) 205
"7 There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary. And those who don't."
Funny! And just image, our universities are filled with students who would not get this joke. Posted by: Carmen at September 26, 2016 02:20 PM (RHjCR) 206
Are we at the debate yet? Are the cameras on?? ~cough-cough-cough-COUGH-COUGH-COUGH- fart/squirt,, cough-cough~ -shoe flies off/faints-,, *hic* Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 26, 2016 02:20 PM (HSmrB) 207
The real freak show is how much money Clinton has poured into advertisements vs Trump. This election is a total freakout.
Yeah, given their constant whining about money in politics, you'd think they would consider Trump a superhero. He's winning despite being outspent by a huge margin! But I had a discussion with a couple of lefties on this topic and here's what they finally admitted: They don't give a damn how much money is actually spent. They just want it to be government funds, not private. They want all campaign financing to come from the government instead of from the people. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:20 PM (39g3+) 208
Guys, I don't see these numbers at all at 538. Silver still has Hillary to win.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 26, 2016 02:20 PM (B+qrE) 209
160 the only thing I want to see in the debate is Trump reach over, pimp slap Hillary, and say "shut up you lying bitch"
Posted by: navycopjoe Some Democrat you are. Posted by: GnuBreed, powering through his deplorability at September 26, 2016 02:20 PM (gyKtp) 210
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I'm listening to Cruz tell Beck why he wrote he's voting Trump. Posted by: Carol at September 26, 2016 02:19 PM (sj3Ax) Oh boy....I am almost at the stage of being sorry for Beck. He seems like a hot mess right now. Posted by: IC at September 26, 2016 02:21 PM (a0IVu) 211
Just imagine, I meant to say. Sorry ....
Posted by: Carmen at September 26, 2016 02:21 PM (RHjCR) 212
I saw Binary Election open for Aleppo John, at the Manly Vale, 1985.
Posted by: Roscoe at September 26, 2016 02:21 PM (UqeeU) 213
This will be like a Nascar debate, everyone tunes in to see an accident. Luckily for us we won't be able to smell Hilary's.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 26, 2016 02:21 PM (PNcou) 214
>>>What are they gonna do? They've already shot their "Trump is Hitler" wad.
They're gonna have to go nuclear. Trump is............Nixon!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 26, 2016 02:21 PM (fgOnp) 215
I'll be watching the live action. Under no circumstances will I watch the post-debate "analyses". Is "Down goes Baroness von Harkonen!" a clear enough signal for her spazzing out? Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2016 02:21 PM (BK3ZS) 216
202 "Let's not start ... "
Posted by: Winston Wolf at September 26, 2016 02:18 PM (hSk36) --- Dude, you're WAY too late. Posted by: Milo Y at September 26, 2016 02:21 PM (PNcou) 217
Will she be prepared for Trump to do the same? How will she react. That YT video of her screeching like an angry drunk won't play well.
Trump: "Hillary, let me tell you why you're not fifty points ahead...." Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:21 PM (O7MnT) 218
198 You can guarantee 4 things.
1) Hillary will be introduced already at the podium, without walking anywhere 2) She will be wearing glasses to control that wandering eye and protect her from glare and distractions 3) She will have a much more difficult to spot earpiece that CNN will make sure they don't shoot any camera angles toward. 4) She will be lit and made up in such a way to look young and healthy and vibrant, while Trump will be yellowish and sinister. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:18 PM (39g3+) Heh. Every time they cut to Trump a green screen behind him lit up with flames and mushroom clouds. Actually that would make me want to vote for him even more... Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 26, 2016 02:21 PM (4ErVI) 219
So Ace, what do you think? Is this a binary election? Not sure if you've been entirely clear on this point.
Posted by: bkeyser at September 26, 2016 02:22 PM (hR1bf) 220
meh, who knows, the dems are devious enough to run some trump is winning psyop
as well as fanatic enough to sacrifice themselves in the psyop. Anything that lowers their numbers, I'm good with. Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:22 PM (Hb9w3) Posted by: Hillary the Methane Monster at September 26, 2016 02:22 PM (/f6Nd) 222
146 I SHALL PREDICT THE FUTURE
The audience for tonight's debate will be huge, everyone wants to see if Hillary will collapse on live TV. The questions are irrelevant. IF Hillary gets any difficult questions she will give a non-answer and no one will ask a followup. Trump will be on a short leash and will appear 'presidential' Hillary's team will pump her full of more meds than an East German lady swimmer and after the debate the media will declare her 'fit for presidential duty' On seeing and hearing this voters will believe it and Hillary gets a big post debate bump and will lead in national polls by 2% (whithin the margin or error) Posted by: anon Amended: Pro-Trump conspiracy crowd will micro-analyze every frame of film from the debate and claim to have PROOF that Hillary had a wireless earpiece, had eyes that wander around disconnectedly, was gripping the podium to stay upright, had an auto-injector taped to her side pumping her full of methamphetamines the entire time, and was wearing Depends that got soiled. Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 02:22 PM (jBuUi) 223
220 This will be like a Nascar debate, everyone tunes in to see an accident. Luckily for us we won't be able to smell Hilary's.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 26, 2016 02:21 PM (PNcou) If the Donald were to sniff theatrically and yell JESUS CHRIST WHO BEEFED he would win 99 percent of the white male vote. Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 26, 2016 02:22 PM (RD7QR) 224
217 208
I'm listening to Cruz tell Beck why he wrote he's voting Trump. Posted by: Carol at September 26, 2016 02:19 PM (sj3Ax) Oh boy....I am almost at the stage of being sorry for Beck. He seems like a hot mess right now. Posted by: IC at September 26, 2016 02:21 PM (a0IVu) Invest in Kool Aid futures. Posted by: josephistan at September 26, 2016 02:22 PM (7HtZB) 225
Probably won't watch tonight. The Wifey and I are in for Trump and there's nothing Hillarmort can say/do to change that.
We'll most likely log into World of Warcraft in order to kill things and take their stuff. We could keep it thematic and commit pixelated genocide against the shrieking harpies in Highmountain. Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 26, 2016 02:23 PM (AfbS9) 226
There are 10 kinds of people in this world.
Those who understand binary. And those who don't. And like 8 other kinds! Posted by: Amy Schumer at September 26, 2016 02:23 PM (PNcou) 227
Lester Holt is a registered Republican. Everyone knows that right?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2016 02:20 PM (UBzPO) Amazingly, that doesn't actually mean anything when it comes to stopping MechaTrumpHitler's rampage through the city. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 02:23 PM (hLRSq) 228
Want to hear something funny? JEB! is calling his donors and feeling them out for 2020 and get this, they've said yes.
I guess throwing away 160 million once wasn't enough for them. They are going to double down and lose another 160 million in 2020. Posted by: The media Suxs at September 26, 2016 02:23 PM (vhuiM) 229
Shut the TV off, and let the Horde inform you in the comment section.
That's how I "watch" every debate or speech. If Hillary can pull this off the camps are going to be very crowded. Yes, you know her hate is rising like the dark side of the force. She's broken dozens of pencils scribbling down new names of her enemies. She wins, there will be hell to pay, almost literally. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:23 PM (39g3+) 230
154 (A) Don't get cocky, kids.
(B) Hillary expended a lot of resources to lose her lead over Donald Trump. Just like Jeb! What happens if her donors begin to balk about sending in "one more check" and she finds herself running out before the end? Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (hLRSq) Here's the hilarious thing. If Trump manages to win, every time you hear some leftist dumbass going on about overturning Citizens to "get money out of politics." You'll be able to say, "Trump did a pretty good job of doing that, didn't he?" Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at September 26, 2016 02:24 PM (u0lmX) 231
ok I rsvp'd to the Women for Trump event
I wonder what hubby will say - he's not a Trump fan at all. Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 26, 2016 02:24 PM (Om16U) 232
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:11 PM (cPsPa)
Around but lrking. I'm usually running two threads behind everyone else since I'm *trying* to get work stuff done and have sworn off the HQ during work hours as a massive time suck. If the Horde weren't so informative and entertaining I would be able to quit the HQ like I keep meaning to. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 26, 2016 02:24 PM (GDulk) 233
Yeah, Huma, we just got an indicator light about the Client's sanitary system. Are you close by? Any strong odors? We ran diagnostics, and the numbers don't look real. If you could drive by the next RV dump station, that would be great.
Posted by: Gam-Gam ISS 2.0 Engineering Team, a division of the Clinton Global Health Initiative at September 26, 2016 02:24 PM (SeD0w) 234
I don't like Trump, but don't want Her Evilness in The People's House again. Remember what they did on their way out?
Stole furniture, took all W's from keyboards & other malicious things. Posted by: Carol at September 26, 2016 02:24 PM (sj3Ax) 235
85 All right, Trump's going to win. I hope this means Trump supporters will stop bullying people who have decided not to vote for the guy.
Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (O7MnT) No worries. I can't bring myself to pull the lever for worst-of-RINOs Roy Blunt, but I'm sure you'll understand if we lose the Senate. Posted by: Carmen at September 26, 2016 02:24 PM (RHjCR) 236
I'd give my left nut to hack Hillary's earpiece.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:24 PM (Hb9w3) 237
I don't want to see her jujst stroke out on tv tonight.
I want Trump to get her to do a reenactment of the bitter, drunk, screechy harpy routine that she did on the You Tube video. Oh, and then to start babbling incoherently where her 'pit-crew' have to run out and pull off the stage. I'm a giver. Posted by: Cheri at September 26, 2016 02:25 PM (oiNtH) 238
Lester Holt is a registered Republican. Everyone knows that right?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2016 02:20 PM (UBzPO) Yeah? So is Rick Wilson. Your point? Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2016 02:25 PM (CehCK) 239
>>>2) She will be wearing glasses to control that wandering eye and protect her from glare and distractions
and she'll cleverly deflect her giant glasses with blue Zeiss anti-seizure lenses by wearing an Elton John costume Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 26, 2016 02:25 PM (fgOnp) 240
With a purposeful grimace and a terrible sound
He pulls the cities' high tension wires down. Helpless people on subway trains Scream My God as he looks in on them. Posted by: Mortimer: deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:25 PM (zu88C) 241
Hillary's run a campaign (hell, a lifetime) that's alienated most of half of the electorate.
She's losing white non-college men by 59%, and white college men by 11%. Black men won't turn out for her the way they did for Obama. She won't make this up with woman voters nor Hispanics. A woman D candidate didn't have to do this, but Hillary did. Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2016 02:25 PM (r1fLd) 242
Guys, I don't see these numbers at all at 538. Silver still has Hillary to win.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 26, 2016 02:20 PM (B+qrE) It's because Silver has more than one "prediction" method on his site. The Trump lead is in just one of them. Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 26, 2016 02:26 PM (wtvvX) 243
I don't like Trump, but don't want Her Evilness in The People's House again. Remember what they did on their way out?
Stole furniture, took all W's from keyboards & other malicious things. Posted by: Carol Even worse, the DNA that Billy Jeff left in the WH. Posted by: Cheri at September 26, 2016 02:26 PM (oiNtH) 244
it might be said that trump's rise in the polls is not a matter of his seeming more "presidential", but his being more republican. and espousing more conservative policies.
after his populist surge in the primaries his support was thin among conservatives. rounding out his platform with conservative positions has been key to reaching a lead a republican candidate should have been enjoying all along. Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 26, 2016 02:26 PM (WTSFk) Posted by: tu3031 at September 26, 2016 02:26 PM (qJhUV) 246
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at September 26, 2016 02:24 PM (u0lmX)
The money came and went like shit through a goose. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 02:26 PM (hLRSq) 247
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (cPsPa)
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? What is there involving an oath that involves the selling or mishandling of classified information? The #NeverTrumpers are as mentally deranged as the Democrats. Posted by: the deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (G2Sc9) so is this guy a troll or what? I have read back through the comments he referenced several times and do not have the slightest as to what he is thinking? Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:26 PM (cPsPa) 248
Silver's reliably lefty, but he has a brand to keep; I also suspect he's a bit compulsive about keeping numbers straight. If he's saying this, I have no reason to believe it's not legit.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 26, 2016 02:26 PM (9krrF) 249
I'm going to wear my best tablecloth to the debate, not sure if i should bring doilies though.
Posted by: Hillary at September 26, 2016 02:27 PM (h8+bL) 250
" Lester Holt is a registered Republican. Everyone knows that right?"
Pfft. So are many GOPe who think he's a drooling orangutan and who are going against the nominee. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 26, 2016 02:27 PM (l2Jd8) 251
Lester Holt is a registered Republican. Everyone knows that right?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2016 02:20 PM (UBzPO) Good cover. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2016 02:27 PM (SRKgf) Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 26, 2016 02:27 PM (YEelc) 253
Even worse, the DNA that Billy Jeff left in the WH.
We turned on the UV lights and that place lit up like Las Vegas. Posted by: CSI at September 26, 2016 02:28 PM (39g3+) 254
I didn't want to believe this Silver dude in 2012 and he turned out correct. Being a pessimist I don't want to believe him this time either. Its a conundrum I tell ya. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 26, 2016 02:28 PM (ODxAs) 255
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 26, 2016 02:16 PM (X6fMO)
I figure that's why they released Hinkley. Hoping he still wants to make a name for himself. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 26, 2016 02:28 PM (GDulk) 256
All Hillary has to say in "Liar, Liar, Liar, Liar, Liar.......and the MFM will say she is so brilliant, and the reporters will all have orgasims with joy.
Posted by: Colin at September 26, 2016 02:28 PM (du8ty) 257
229 Pro-Trump conspiracy crowd will micro-analyze every frame of film from
the debate and claim to have PROOF that Hillary had a wireless earpiece, had eyes that wander around disconnectedly, was gripping the podium to stay upright, had an auto-injector taped to her side pumping her full of methamphetamines the entire time, and was wearing Depends that got soiled. Posted by: zombie The truth hurts? Posted by: GnuBreed, powering through his deplorability at September 26, 2016 02:28 PM (gyKtp) 258
i will be singing donna fargo's, 'happiest girl in the whole USA'
Posted by: concrete girl at September 26, 2016 02:28 PM (EH+1/) Posted by: Susan Collins (R) at September 26, 2016 02:28 PM (zu88C) 260
Guys, I don't see these numbers at all at 538. Silver still has Hillary to win. Posted by: Circa Because it's designed that way. Silver is a cheat who games the numbers shamelessly and will always -- always -- have something he will point to after the game is over to prove he was "right". It this case, the to do is about the predicted result of his polls+ forecast, a Romulan cloaked assemblage of weighted and aged poll date, along with a dog's breakfast of other numbers tossed on and off at whim. Then run thru a Monte Carlo simulation. That's what's showing a Trump win atm. There's also stuff on there that says the exact opposite. It's designed to be that way. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 26, 2016 02:28 PM (kdS6q) 261
"I'm going to wear my best tablecloth to the debate, not sure if i should bring doilies though."
Don't forget the place-mats. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 26, 2016 02:28 PM (l2Jd8) 262
55 The left is figuratively crapping its pants today, in solidarity with Hillary, who will (hopefully) be literally crapping her pants tonight. Posted by: Revenant A good potential moment is right at the beginning when Hillary has to climb Mount Podium. (They've get a step there that she will look very tentative stepping up on I think. You want a haiku but you'll get a limerick. Hill's condition is still much in doubt, And she's nervous debating this lout, She'll take some Immodium, For climbing the Podium But sh!t herself on the way out. Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 26, 2016 02:29 PM (kfcYC) 263
"Lester Holt is a registered Republican. Everyone knows that right?"
Mitch McConnell John McCain Lisa Murkowski Susan Collins Shall I go on? Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 26, 2016 02:29 PM (9P3OG) 264
There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary. And those who
FIFY Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 26, 2016 02:29 PM (YEelc) 265
... and the thing is, the truth is, should trump win the presidency, i don't expect him to govern on conservative principles at all. i'd be happy with a very low bar, say on immigration, supreme court, and the military.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 26, 2016 02:29 PM (WTSFk) 266
I don't seriously think Hillary has an exoskeleton under those Mao tarps. That's just silly.
She's taped up like a Running Back with a bad knee from head to toe, but no exoskeleton. And anyone who doesn't see that earpiece from the last town hall is just blind or so desperate to be cool and down with the mainstream they don't want to see it. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:29 PM (39g3+) 267
Remember when Anatoly Karpov put a Soviet hypotherapist in the audience of the '81 World Chess Championship to freak out Victor Korchnoi? Even if the guy was a charlatan, his very presence so upset Korchnoi that he couldn't concentrate and lost the match.
Well, Trump has arranged to have someone in the audience with an ultraviolet (thus invisible to cameras) flashing light set to seizure-inducing frequencies. DID YOU HEAR THAT, TEAM HILLARY?? INFORM HER SO SHE CAN TAKE PREVENTIVE MEASURES! (Such as becoming paranoid and getting freaked out.) Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 02:30 PM (jBuUi) 268
The best thing about a Trump election is that it would totally invalidate the Obama experience - and also just show that O was elected as a faddish piece of identity politics
Posted by: Lurker primus at September 26, 2016 02:30 PM (B3qs7) 269
He picks up a bus and he throws it back down As he wades through the village towards the center of town. Posted by: Mortimer: deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:30 PM (zu88C) 270
221 They're gonna have to go nuclear.
Trump is............Nixon!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 26, 2016 02:21 PM (fgOnp) I fear you may be right, insofar as Nixon gave us the EPA and OSHA. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 26, 2016 02:30 PM (9P3OG) 271
Posted by: Colin at September 26, 2016 02:28 PM (du8ty)
And everybody watching will wonder if her servos seized up again and she needs to be rebooted. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 02:30 PM (hLRSq) Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2016 02:30 PM (BK3ZS) 273
Nate Silver began the "internet famous" chapter of his life as a Daily Kos commenter in late 2007.
Just in case anyone here has forgotten that fact. Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 02:30 PM (21hN3) 274
235 Want to hear something funny? JEB! is calling his donors and feeling them out for 2020 and get this, they've said yes. ------------------- Fine. Sequester the GOPElitist funds in a place where they can't do any harm. Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 02:30 PM (oGNNA) 275
I don't like Trump, but don't want Her Evilness in The People's House again. Remember what they did on their way out?
Stole furniture, took all W's from keyboards & other malicious things. Posted by: Carol at September 26, 2016 02:24 PM (sj3Ax) That was the least of it. The damage they did to the country while they were in office was much worse Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2016 02:31 PM (493sH) 276
HILLARY's head starts rotating, pea soup shooting out of her mouth as she croaks out words in Aramaic. Thick smoke begins coming out of her pantsuit.
Can't. Stop. Laughing. Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 26, 2016 02:31 PM (SeD0w) 277
Trump should ask the wicked witch the questions that Judicial Watch have asked her.
Posted by: OldDominionMom at September 26, 2016 02:31 PM (GzDYP) 278
"245 Lester Holt is a registered Republican. Everyone knows that right?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2016 02:20 PM (UBzPO) Yeah? So is Rick Wilson. Your point?" As is Meghan McCain. Also, Jeff Daniels character on that crappy Aaron Sorkin show on HBO. Posted by: Benji Carver at September 26, 2016 02:31 PM (OD2ni) Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 26, 2016 02:31 PM (V3IFq) 280
Lester Holt is a registered Republican. There a quite a few media types, especially at the state and local level, who do that to be able to claim that they're even-handed when they criticize Republicans.
The editor of the local rag where I live does that and hasn't written a single word of even lukewarm support for any Republican ever. Posted by: Furious George at September 26, 2016 02:31 PM (57K5j) 281
A good potential moment is right at the beginning when Hillary has to climb Mount Podium.
Climb Mount Podium! Tora! Tora! Tora! Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (Hb9w3) 282
>>>235 Want to hear something funny? JEB! is calling his donors and feeling them out for 2020 and get this, they've said yes.
I guess throwing away 160 million once wasn't enough for them. They are going to double down and lose another 160 million in 2020. Posted by: The media Suxs at September 26, 2016 02:23 PM (vhuiM) Maybe not. If Trump is elected, the Fed will tank the economy. Count on it. The Media, the Dems and the GOP-e will blame it on opposition to immigration and 'free trade', i.e. letting the multinationals access the US market from the Third World with cheap labor and no regulation. Unlike with Bush, the Media will not play it that Obama's Bubble burst. It will be all on Trump. There is a lot of money riding on cheap foreign labor and using that to access the US market until the US market collapses. Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (fgOnp) 283
OK, I'm out for the day. Have no intention of watching the "debate." I expect the local news radio will tell me tomorrow morning that Scankles pissing through her catheter bag shows how she's overflowing with emotion for the dreamers in the shadows frightened into silence by TrumpHitler.
I'll come here in the morning for the straight dope. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (X6fMO) 284
They don't give a damn how much money is actually spent. They just want it to be government funds, not private. They want all campaign financing to come from the government instead of from the people. ----------------- I detect a flaw in their logic. Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (oGNNA) 285
should trump win the presidency, i don't expect him to govern on conservative principles at all.
Oh no, Donald Trump is only conservative in anything by coincidence, not ideology. However, he does actually seem to genuinely love America, and Hillary is so horrible, so evil, and so ghastly she must not win. I'd take a Johnson win over Hillary. I'd have cheered if Bernie beat her. I can stand Trump winning mostly because I know it don't matter who's in that office at this point. We just cannot let her succeed in turning a lifetime of evil, corruption, lawbreaking, greed, and horror into a triumphant win of the most powerful job on earth. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (39g3+) 286
Silver did well in 2012 but sharted all over himself 2014. He doesn't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.
Still, if this depresses our trolls, I'll take it. Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (KDlh/) Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (wtvvX) 288
James Comey was a registered Republican
Collin Bowell was a registered Republican Posted by: The media Suxs at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (vhuiM) 289
About that Uber plan for self-flying drone taxi...
Look everyone! A computer animation! They have a COMPUTER ANIMATION!!! I guess we're still that fucking stupid. Posted by: Dang Deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (k0G44) 290
I'd give my left nut to hack Hillary's earpiece.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:24 PM At a minimum, we'll need the bigger one. Posted by: Beelzebub at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (hSk36) 291
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She's got Hillary Clinton eyes (.)(') (~)(,) (^)(v) (,)(') Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Deplorable Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2016 02:30 PM (BK3ZS) Thread winner. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 26, 2016 02:33 PM (jxbfJ) 292
History shows again and again
How nature points up the folly of men Posted by: Mortimer: deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:33 PM (zu88C) Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:33 PM (Hb9w3) 294
"Want to hear something funny? JEB! is calling his donors and feeling them out for 2020 and get this, they've said yes. "
You can't fix stupid. Posted by: Bill Engvall-comletely wearing out his 20-year schtick at September 26, 2016 02:33 PM (l2Jd8) 295
Fainting, long coughing, bug eye stare and big black guy appears and its all over.
Posted by: Skip at September 26, 2016 02:33 PM (JfUI4) 296
Lester Holt is a registered Republican. Everyone knows that right?
Just like I'm a registered Independent. I'm a white, Married, Catholic, Pro-life, Veteran, Gun owner (lost most of them in a horrible boating mishap) middle aged father of two. Who used to be republican, but now I'm independent. Guess why? Posted by: USNtakim at September 26, 2016 02:34 PM (hMqvx) 297
I've decided: I'll watch the debates on mute. That way, I can see if Hillary collapses live, although I think the odds are astronomical. Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 02:34 PM (oGNNA) 298
I don't get this whole "put them in the front row" thing. When they're up on that stage, they can barely see the moderators, let alone the crowd with the lights in their face.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:34 PM (39g3+) 299
120 I think this significantly raises the chances of Hillary passing out on stage tonight and suspending campaign with Biden eventually replacing her.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (mN+tK) She will never voluntarily suspend her campaign. Never. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at September 26, 2016 02:34 PM (u0lmX) 300
219 I saw Binary Election open for Aleppo John, at the Manly Vale, 1985.
And I saw Faithless Electors open for Binary Election. Small world! Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (WlGX+) 301
Someone also mentioned in that previous thread that, in 2012, even after Romney's great 1st debate, he ended up losing by the margin he was behind before that debate.
Trump enters this debate in the lead . . . . Posted by: RoyalOil at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (e2Rx3) 302
Oh I think hillary will hop up on her podium height equalizer like the energizer bunny. She is gonna try to over exaggerate against the things people think about her. I do hope Trumps people are taking pics from behind the candidates during the debate though so everybody can see her box and her stool. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (ODxAs) 303
If Nate "30 Pieces of" Silver says Hillary is gonna lose, then she must REALLY be gonna lose! He's been propping up the Dems for eight years.
Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 01:51 PM (jBuUi) No, Silver's been calling it (mostly) correctly for eight plus years. It's my understanding that--true enough--Silver is a Democrat and leans Left. He is also a pollster whose business depends on getting it right most of the time. Besides, we've been hearing about rigged polls conducted by supposedly reputable firms every election cycle. Presumably, rigged polls can be used as a tool to suppress votes or create a bandwagon effect or shore up a failing candidate or weaken the credibility of another, but I imagine the overall effect of poll tampering isnegligible. I don't know for sure. One truth does emerge with polling controversies, though: the side that whines about it most is the losing side, always. Posted by: troyriser at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (OGbEB) 304
Nate Silver began the "internet famous" chapter of his life as a Daily Kos commenter in late 2007. Posted by: Walter Freeman That's after he went legit and buried his past. Back in the early '00s, he made his rent cheating at online poker using bots, reviewing the same, and poker site sign up commissions. His political forecasting stuff was a hobby, that he made into a career after the online poker ban. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (kdS6q) 305
Has anyone accused the that libertarian candidate of trying to mock a person with Down Syndrome when talked with his tongue sticking out of his mouth in that interview?
Posted by: Dang Deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (k0G44) 306
305 I don't get this whole "put them in the front row" thing. When they're up on that stage, they can barely see the moderators, let alone the crowd with the lights in their face.
It's knowing they're there.... Posted by: deplorable donna at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (O2RFr) 307
And don't forget Kelly Ayotte (NH) is a republican
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (jxbfJ) 308
The best-laid schemes 'o mice an' men gang aft a-gley.
Posted by: Some tiresome Scot at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (RD7QR) 309
I'd take a Johnson win over Hillary. I'd have cheered if Bernie
beat her. I can stand Trump winning mostly because I know it don't matter who's in that office at this point. We just cannot let her succeed in turning a lifetime of evil, corruption, lawbreaking, greed, and horror into a triumphant win of the most powerful job on earth. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (39g3+) --That's pretty much where I am too. Hillary's conduct simply cannot be rewarded with her winning the Presidency. Posted by: Revenant at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (3DSAh) 310
Wonder if you could get in the debates with one of those super LED flashlights with the strobe setting.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (jsWA8) 311
"If Trump is elected, the Fed will tank the economy. Count on it."
Not so sure of this. Fed can hike rates, which is overdue, but can't do it very much without creating enormous problems for itself -- it has a $5 trillion balance sheet that looks like a 1980s S&L. Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (r1fLd) 312
The best thing about a Trump election is that it would totally invalidate the Obama experience - and also just show that O was elected as a faddish piece of identity politics
Posted by: Lurker primus at September 26, 2016 02:30 PM (B3qs7) --------------------------------------- Or that Carter and HW Bush were aberrations in the post-1952 rotation schedule. Posted by: RioBravo at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (NUqwG) 313
As Christopher said, they won't have her walk to the podium and i doubt there willl be any medical problems. They've had a week to get the medications set
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (EnGQE) 314
Huma! Coordinate!!
Posted by: Illary at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (QQ+il) 315
Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 26, 2016 02:23 PM (AfbS9)
Please join Val U Rite Pudding (Horde on Hellscream, Alliance on Rexxar), unless this is a sock and you already have. In which case, never mind the silly 'Ette. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 26, 2016 02:36 PM (GDulk) 316
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305 I don't get this whole "put them in the front row" thing. When they're up on that stage, they can barely see the moderators, let alone the crowd with the lights in their face. It's knowing they're there.... Posted by: deplorable donna at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (O2RFr) Will someone PLEASE bring a tactical flashlight that has a strobe feature? Flash that in FAB's eyes - debate won. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 26, 2016 02:36 PM (jxbfJ) 317
Trump: "Mrs. Clinton, what drug or combination of drugs were you injected with by your handlers before coming out on stage here tonight so you would not lose your balance, blank out, or shart?"
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2016 02:36 PM (CehCK) 318
Oval Office is to Hillary as the One Ring is to Gollum
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 26, 2016 02:36 PM (Om16U) 319
@310: "No, Silver's been calling it (mostly) correctly for eight plus years. It's my understanding that--true enough--Silver is a Democrat and leans Left. He is also a pollster whose business depends on getting it right most of the time."
A pollster who began his life in the political prognostication business as ... A FREAKIN' COMMENTER AT DAILY KOS. Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 02:36 PM (21hN3) Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 26, 2016 02:36 PM (WlGX+) 321
I can stand Trump winning mostly because I know it don't matter who's in that office at this point.
Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:37 PM (O7MnT) 322
But it's not binary!! Principles!! Wah!! Someone else could still win!! I want Harambe or Jill Stein or the Pothead! Principles!! Not voting is an option too!
Posted by: nevertrump at September 26, 2016 02:37 PM (09Ay7) 323
299 History shows again and again
How nature points up the folly of men Posted by: Mortimer: deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:33 PM (zu88C) Trumpzilla! Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:37 PM (0mRoj) 324
306 120 I think this significantly raises the chances of Hillary passing out on stage tonight and suspending campaign with Biden eventually replacing her. Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (mN+tK) She will never voluntarily suspend her campaign. Never. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) Hillary should start small like voluntarily taking a dump. Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 26, 2016 02:37 PM (kfcYC) 325
Are they going to show closeups of Cuban snickering, rolling his eyes, mouthing the word "bullshit" whenever Trump speaks? Especially when he's making a solid point?
Wouldn't surprise me at all... Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at September 26, 2016 02:37 PM (u0lmX) 326
I think this significantly raises the chances of Hillary passing out on stage tonight and suspending campaign with Biden eventually replacing her.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 26, 2016 02:08 PM (mN+tK) She will never voluntarily suspend her campaign. Never. Posted by: Donna and V If she wants them to use the Epipen on her the next time, she will. Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:38 PM (Hb9w3) 327
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Oval Office is to Hillary as the One Ring is to Gollum Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 26, 2016 02:36 PM (Om16U) or to a teenage girl to Carlos Danger?a young boy to Harry the pedarest? Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 26, 2016 02:38 PM (jxbfJ) 328
Trump has not 'won' shit...nor has the ElderlyFelon.
TONIGHT begins the race. May the cosmic controllers create within Granny a couging snot bubble that will qualify as an extra -terrestrial being.... Posted by: !Deplorable Lives Matter! at September 26, 2016 02:38 PM (oBuXO) 329
well, the problem for jeb is that he has the same number of voters and donors.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:38 PM (cPsPa) 330
Bette Davis Eyes
by Kim Carnes Her narratives are pre-polled Her lips spew only lies Her soul is freezing cold She's got Hill'ry Clinton eyes. They wander disconnected As if to hyponotize She'll never get elected With those Hill'ry Clinton eyes. Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 02:38 PM (jBuUi) 331
Progs posing as fake #nevertrump hardest hit.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 26, 2016 02:38 PM (09Ay7) 332
Let's just hope it is a true shart and not a turtle head.
Posted by: ajmojo at September 26, 2016 02:38 PM (1H9ox) 333
They are now officially panicking.
If she backs away from this commitment... http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=297689 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2016 02:38 PM (J+eG2) 334
As far as I can tell, 100% of us are going to do that. We could all be sitting here at our keyboards going "I wonder what's happening!" and "I've got it on without sound and they're kind of waving their hands a bit" and "What are you drinking?"
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (oGNNA) Yeah, I'm sure as hell not watching it. I'm just hoping that someone watching will be an open Trump skeptic.....I'll need reassurance from someone who isn't enthralled by his persona that he didn't screw the pooch like he did after the Orlando shooting (and virtually any other time he opens his mouth without a teleprompter). Posted by: lowtech redneck at September 26, 2016 02:38 PM (egK2C) 335
Huh. Now it's Hillary 48.9 to Trump 51.1. I don't know how 538 works. Real-time updates based on 24/7 polling? Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 02:38 PM (oGNNA) 336
In Colorado among those wealthy college-educated whites I *have* been hearing from Republicans that they are not enthused about Trump yet. I've been telling them "Hey there's a debate Monday".
No pressure! Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 26, 2016 02:39 PM (KDlh/) 337
I try not to get sucked into arguing politics on Facebook, but I just replied to a (lefty, but intelligent open to good-faith debate) friend's post that linked an article with a list of Trump scandals complained that all we're talking about with Hillary are the email server and the Clinton Foundation.
I put up a long list of scandals she was involved in, with brief summaries of the details - WH travel office, FBI files, Chinagate, pardons, "lost" records, Commerce junkets, Lincoln Bedroom renting, destroyed female WJC accusers, prosecution of Billy Dale, jailing of the Youtube video maker to continue selling her Benghazi lie, etc. - and of the various sham investigations; lack of oversight; layers of fall guys / flunkies / buffers; and misuse of government office to consolidate power, destroy her enemies, and shield her from oversight. I then pointed out that I don't like or trust Trump, but that since half his own party hates his guts, he's more likely to be kept in check than she is, whereas she'll weaponize the entire federal bureaucracy and the courts Congress will just let it slide. My conclusion: I hate that Trump is the only thing standing between Hillary and the presidency, but at this point he's all we've got. One reply so far, from a Bernie supporter -- "You may have just convinced me to vote for Trump." My work is done for today. Posted by: Alex at September 26, 2016 02:39 PM (7Yy8M) 338
Someone also mentioned in that previous thread that, in 2012, even after Romney's great 1st debate, he ended up losing by the margin he was behind before that debate.
Yeah, and Obama lost that debate by such a catastrophic margin even the legacy media had to admit it. The looks on their faces were classic, it was so shocking to them to see their idol stoned out of his gourd and totally unprepared. And in the end? Meant nothing. Zero. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:39 PM (39g3+) 339
*wheeze COUGHHACKHACK *
*creak groan THUD* "one" *COUGHCOUGH hork rattle spit* *GACK wheeze wheeze wheeze* *grind THUMP* "two" Posted by: Hillary climbs the stairs at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (zu88C) 340
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Oh, I'm gonna watch it live. I hate them both, but I don't want to miss it when an O-ring fails and she spurts hydraulic fluid all over the stage. Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 26, 2016 02:10 PM (mgbwf) In my imagining I see her face plate popping off, to be left hanging by the wires attached to her camera orbs. Posted by: Keith at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (USf3s) 341
Just the thought of seeing her stroke out on live TV is enough to make me watch. I wouldn't miss that for a million bucks.
I may watch with the tube on mute, playing Billy Squier's "The Stroke" as a background soundtrack. . -- This sounds like a reasonable, workable plan. However, since it's a long debate, rather than looping "The Stroke" I'm thinking Pink Floyd's "The Wall" might be a more appropriate choice. Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (tvyXw) 342
A pollster who began his life in the political prognostication business as ... A FREAKIN' COMMENTER AT DAILY KOS.
Posted by: Walter Freeman ___________ Our Republican state senator was a frequent commenter at Daily Kos at about the same time. Complimented the other commenters for teaching him so much. Hasn't disavowed any of his stances taken back then. Yes, now that you ask--he DID have the backing of the Republican establishment during all three of his runs for state office. Posted by: Furious George at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (57K5j) 343
Trump: "Mrs Clinton, what is the percentage of Americans you believe belong in a basket of deplorables, or are irredeemable, or both?"
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (CehCK) Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (0mRoj) 345
Sadly ... I got a feeling Lester Holt will tilt this thing in Hillary's favor tonite ... prompting Trump to have an epic meltdown.
Posted by: ScoggDog at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (xIBU4) 346
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Fingers crossed for tonight's debate, if it goes well, it should swing things even further to Trump. ======== I'm not sure Trump has to do well. I think they've made him such a monster that all he has to do is show up and be likable. Hillary, of course, has such a deep well of natural charisma to draw upon that she will have to work hard to not outshine Trump by too much. But, seriously: This is an "image" contest, has been since JFK. And which candidate has the most experience working in front of a camera? Posted by: RoyalOil at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (e2Rx3) 347
I've been strongly NeverTrump for a while and the reasons I have been so haven't changed. I thought I wouldn't have to worry because I never thought Trump would be competitive here.
I'm unalterably opposed to the idea of either of them being president, but she would be worse. So it's a lot tougher now to not vote for Trump. Posted by: El Skippito Friskito at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (F26eZ) 348
One lazer pointer in the audience could end it all, in theory anyway.
Posted by: Skip at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (JfUI4) 349
... you're aware of what this means, i hope.
if trump wins, it's a conservative win. if trump loses it's a trump loss. Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 26, 2016 02:41 PM (WTSFk) 350
If someone were to start barking loudly in the audience while Hillary is speaking would they get in any sort of trouble? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: ajmojo at September 26, 2016 02:41 PM (1H9ox) 351
A pollster who began his life in the political prognostication business as ... A FREAKIN' COMMENTER AT DAILY KOS.
Posted by: Walter Freeman So he's the first person in history to turn a hobby into an occupation? Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 26, 2016 02:41 PM (V3IFq) 352
@311: "Back in the early '00s, he made his rent cheating at online poker using bots, reviewing the same, and poker site sign up commissions."
Makes me wonder if he's got any friends at Draft Kings and Fan Duel these days. Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 02:41 PM (21hN3) 353
@94
You're right, he's losing on that map. Silver uses, I believe, a bunch of computer simulations to run thousands of possible outcomes based on current polling ranges (and in some models, background conditions like economy etc.) If Trump is losing on the map but winning a majority of the computer simulations, that means that he is very close behind in several states and is therefore upsetting HRC in at least one state that ends up being the tipping point in a majority of simulated election results. If you look at 538's full projection, most of Trump's leaner states have him with a higher % to win them than HRC has to win *her* leaner states right now. That simply tracked with the national polls, one month ago the situation was reversed and hers were all safe while Trump had a 30% chance of losing Georgia. Posted by: cjw at September 26, 2016 02:41 PM (onydf) 354
Trumpzilla!
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:37 PM (0mRoj) MechaTrumpHitlerZilla! Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 02:41 PM (hLRSq) 355
Just a few months ago Ace was saying Trump could never break 40%, therefore he could never win.
... So was Nate Silver. Posted by: ajmojo at September 26, 2016 02:42 PM (1H9ox) Posted by: Max Power at September 26, 2016 02:42 PM (QCc6B) 357
... sarsparilla all round! win-win, baby! no matter what happens!
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 26, 2016 02:42 PM (WTSFk) 358
linked an article with a list of Trump scandals complained that all we're talking about with Hillary are the email server and the Clinton Foundation.
Yeah that's another trial balloon the Hillary team is floating: Trump's scandals!!!! Its a typical Democrat tactic, accuse your opponent of doing what you already are, so when people compare, you don't seem as bad. OK they both lie, so let's just ignore that problem... Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:42 PM (39g3+) 359
*wheeze COUGHHACKHACK *
*creak groan THUD* "one" *COUGHCOUGH hork rattle spit* *GACK wheeze wheeze wheeze* *grind THUMP* "two" Posted by: Hillary climbs the stairs at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (zu88C) I had to leave my desk and go into the hallway I was laughing so hard Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2016 02:42 PM (493sH) 360
And in the end? Meant nothing. Zero.
Because the Democrats can turn out the vote like nobody can and with extended voting can really get every drooling idiot from every nuthouse, nursing home, and alley-next-to-the-liquor store to vote by election day. Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:42 PM (O7MnT) 361
363 Just a few months ago Ace was saying Trump could never break 40%, therefore he could never win.
... So was Nate Silver. And Me... Posted by: deplorable donna at September 26, 2016 02:42 PM (O2RFr) Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2016 02:42 PM (r1fLd) 363
362 Trumpzilla!
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:37 PM (0mRoj) MechaTrumpHitlerZilla! Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 02:41 PM (hLRSq) Lets save that one for the sequel, Mikey-San. Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:43 PM (0mRoj) 364
She will never voluntarily suspend her campaign. Never.
Posted by: Donna and V If you're in a medically induced coma, you don't have a lot to say about it. Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 26, 2016 02:43 PM (9krrF) 365
A pollster who began his life in the political prognostication business as ... A FREAKIN' COMMENTER AT DAILY KOS.
Posted by: Walter Freeman So he's the first person in history to turn a hobby into an occupation? .... Nope. Posted by: Community Organizer in Chief at September 26, 2016 02:43 PM (1H9ox) 366
Not watching, by the way, but that's because tonight is AWANA night.
Posted by: El Skippito Friskito at September 26, 2016 02:43 PM (F26eZ) 367
85 All right, Trump's going to win. I hope this means Trump supporters will stop bullying people who have decided not to vote for the guy.
Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:03 PM (O7MnT) *** Not a chance. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 26, 2016 02:43 PM (09Ay7) 368
I think I figured out why Heillary's eyes move they way they do.
She's not just a reptilian in a human suit, she's a chameleon. Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 26, 2016 02:43 PM (YEelc) 369
So they are gonna have hourly polls now?
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 26, 2016 02:43 PM (O2RFr) 370
A pollster who began his life in the political prognostication business as ... A FREAKIN' COMMENTER AT DAILY KOS.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 02:36 PM (21hN3) Brandon, one of the AoS co-bloggers, is now in the polling business--and doing very successfully, by all accounts. Do you think his political beliefs cloud his methodology? Keeping in mind, of course, that if he found out unfairly weighting his polls even once then his credibility is gone forever, along with a good chunk of his livelihood. Integrity is everything in that business. One could argue that it's the only thing. Posted by: troyriser at September 26, 2016 02:43 PM (OGbEB) 371
44 Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 01:57 PM (hLRSq)
Egg McMuffin is one of the SCoaMFs at Langley who turned the Middle East into ever browner pools of shit. He's entertaining someone but I don't know who. Posted by: sven10077 at September 26, 2016 02:43 PM (SzZnW) 372
@342: "I don't know how 538 works. Real-time updates based on 24/7 polling?"
Technically, Nate Silver isn't a pollster 'cause he doesn't do any direct polling. Think of 538 as a Real Clear Politics like polling average system with a proprietary secret sauce (weighting system) slathered on top. Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 02:43 PM (21hN3) 373
If you're in a medically induced coma, you don't have a lot to say about it.
Zombie Woodrow Wilson begs to differ. Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:44 PM (O7MnT) Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 26, 2016 02:44 PM (DDM7c) 375
so if one candidate does not make it through the debate does the other get the time?
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:44 PM (cPsPa) 376
Trump: "Mrs Clinton, how does it feel to have the enthusiastic support of so many journalists and media figures?"
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2016 02:44 PM (CehCK) 377
Nate Silver really started out that way? I know 538 leans left, but didn't know he started out at Kos.
Posted by: Carol at September 26, 2016 02:44 PM (sj3Ax) Posted by: Zombie Adolf Hitler at September 26, 2016 02:44 PM (0mRoj) 379
@359: "So he's the first person in history to turn a hobby into an occupation?"
Of course not, but I think it's a bit silly for anyone to insist that he's necessarily non-partisan now that he's got a business to manage and protect. Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 02:45 PM (21hN3) 380
378 Posted by: troyriser at September 26, 2016 02:43 PM (OGbEB)
CAC, unlike Gnat Sliver is not being fed the DNC's polling data. Posted by: sven10077 at September 26, 2016 02:45 PM (SzZnW) 381
Just a few months ago Ace was saying Trump could never break 40%, therefore he could never win.
------ Because of da wimmenz Posted by: Mortimer: deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:45 PM (zu88C) 382
Not a chance. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Quite right my dear. Now where did I put that chafing dish? Posted by: Hannibal Lecter at September 26, 2016 02:45 PM (0mRoj) 383
Trump needs one of those signs that RR had to the effect that there is no limit to what you can do, so long as you don't care who gets the credit.
I don't expect Trump to follow that advice, as he is a vastly different human being. But if he at least tempers the "me, my, my-most-excellent-greatest" stuff then I think we have more than a credible shot. The alternative is simply too vile to contemplate. Posted by: xnycpeasant at September 26, 2016 02:45 PM (c0/+W) 384
9 o'clock start, expected to go 90 minutes with no breaks. I'll start watching it, but I can't promise I'll stick with it. These things are so contrived and stage-managed as to be nearly unrecognizable as debates.
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 26, 2016 02:45 PM (2cS/G) 385
well, I am willing to begrudge almost anyone anything but nothing wrong with silver turning his hobby into a job.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:45 PM (cPsPa) 386
Because the Democrats can turn out the vote like nobody can and with extended voting can really get every drooling idiot from every nuthouse, nursing home, and alley-next-to-the-liquor store to vote by election day.
Posted by: V the K ______________ * clears throat * You forgot me. Posted by: Hundreds of Graveyards at September 26, 2016 02:46 PM (57K5j) 387
One lazer pointer in the audience could end it all, in theory anyway.
Posted by: Skip at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (JfUI4) You mean a laser target designator? Yeah I'm pretty certain that would result in someone meeting an end. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 02:46 PM (hLRSq) 388
I'm wary of polls...I can see them bumping Trump up before the debate and then when Hillary "wins" they will say "See Hillary got a huge bump up in the polls."
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 26, 2016 02:46 PM (O2RFr) 389
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Trump: "Mrs Clinton, how does it feel to have the enthusiastic support of so many journalists and media figures?" Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2016 02:44 PM (CehCK) The best I'm hoping for is some one-liner hits like this one. Oh, and for DJT to not step on his dick. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 26, 2016 02:46 PM (jxbfJ) 390
And it looks like Trump's promise to reduce the size of the Federal payroll may indeed be doable.
http://tinyurl.com/h5vtbpd Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2016 02:46 PM (J+eG2) 391
I think they've made him such a monster that all he has to do is show up and be likable.
I agree. The big flaw with all the stuff they throw at Trump is that exact problem. If you build him up to be a monster and he comes across as likable and presidential, it all works in reverse. People respond to impressions and visuals more than anything else these days at least (maybe always) and all the whining yelling and articles on facebook in the world won't reverse that impression. All Trump has to do is not go whackadoo or seem to threaten Hillary in any way. He has no problem with that, as long as he's on the winning side. Hillary has to come across as reasonable, normal, healthy, and charismatic. She has to seem likable and sane. That's a pretty high bar for her. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:46 PM (39g3+) 392
They've had a week to get the medications set
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (EnGQE) Modern medicine is wonderful, but I doubt it's so advanced they can calibrate things to the drop and get exactly the right reaction every time. Easier to do when you're estimating how much general anesthesia to use when putting a child to sleep as compared to a 240 lb. man. And even then mistakes are made. This is figuring out just the right medication for a woman who will be standing under hot lights for 2 hours. Much trickier. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at September 26, 2016 02:46 PM (u0lmX) 393
Those old bullshit polls that had Georgia in play did do one bit of good: they trolled the Donkeys into running Hillary ads in Georgia. Georgians took one look at her barrow wight face and one listen to her undead voice and ran the polls up Trump's way again. Lots of commie money and time got wasted there.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 26, 2016 02:47 PM (KDlh/) 394
I'm hiding in the basement until it's over, the family gives me an accounting of what happened and I've had a couple drinks.
Sounds like HIllary's campaign strategy, I know. Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 26, 2016 02:47 PM (09Ay7) 395
Is one of the debate rules a prohibition of flash cameras so The Hag doesn't have a nationally viewed seizure?
Posted by: Marcus T at September 26, 2016 02:47 PM (JILvc) 396
My best case scenario for the debates is Donald Trump says really crazy stuff, scares the crap out of Hillary by walking toward her, and she goes into a 2-minute coughing and barking jag, followed by another full body collapse.
Now that's entertainment. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:47 PM (39g3+) 397
Powerline has something up that the DemonRats are desperate today.
Posted by: Carol at September 26, 2016 02:47 PM (sj3Ax) 398
... you're aware of what this means, i hope.
if trump wins, it's a conservative win. if trump loses it's a trump loss. .... Depends whose spinning. In the press it's probably more of if trump wins, it's a republican win due to the 2 or 3 lefty things that Trump emraced (gay marriage, minimum wage waffling, etc). if trump loses, it's a conservative loss because everyone hates conservative racist bigot mysoginist homophobic earth destroyers. Posted by: ajmojo at September 26, 2016 02:47 PM (1H9ox) Posted by: War on Tampons ! at September 26, 2016 02:47 PM (zu88C) 400
In 2012 Obama was able to peddle the lies that (1) Al Quaeda was on the run, he'd ended the Iraq War, and that he'd personally killed bin Laden, and (2) the economy had turned the corner, thanks to Glorious Leader. He needed a lot of lift from false economic stats and a helpful MSM.
Romney also had personal limitations that let him be painted as Scrooge McDuck. Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2016 02:48 PM (r1fLd) 401
Do you think his political beliefs cloud his methodology?
*** Polls are not just an analytical tool, they also drive voting behavior, or at least are believed to...and provide cover for fraud. I'm not accusing Nate Silver of adjusting his results in any way at this point, but the notion that he wouldn't because of worries about his reputation seems rather weak tea. Posted by: 18-1 at September 26, 2016 02:48 PM (X7E8f) 402
If you build him up to be a monster and he comes across as likable and presidential, it all works in reverse. "
Hence their fury at Kimmel for treating Trump like a human being. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at September 26, 2016 02:48 PM (u0lmX) 403
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Standing by! Posted by: War on Tampons ! at September 26, 2016 02:47 PM (zu88C) Standing by! Posted by: Red 7 at September 26, 2016 02:48 PM (0mRoj) 404
Is one of the debate rules a prohibition of flash cameras
My guess is all cameras and phones banned as distractions. Plus, that way, nobody but CNN gets to control the visuals. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 02:48 PM (39g3+) 405
Romney also had personal limitations that let him be painted as Scrooge McDuck.
*** Also, not being sure he wanted to win. Posted by: 18-1 at September 26, 2016 02:49 PM (X7E8f) Posted by: Binders Full of Women ! at September 26, 2016 02:49 PM (zu88C) 407
I'm not buying it until all the dead people, illegal immIgrants, felons and other people ineligible to vote have cast their ballots.
Bet that's not in Nate's margin of error. Posted by: Marcus T at September 26, 2016 02:49 PM (JILvc) 408
Hillary has to come across as reasonable, normal, healthy, and
charismatic. She has to seem likable and sane. That's a pretty high bar for her.>>> Did someone say Bar? Posted by: Hillary at September 26, 2016 02:49 PM (XtAzU) 409
376 I think I figured out why Heillary's eyes move they way they do.
She's not just a reptilian in a human suit, she's a chameleon. Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 26, 2016 02:43 PM (YEelc) Which explains all the identical pantsuits in various colors and the thing on her tongue. Also her amazement at falling balloons. Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 26, 2016 02:49 PM (09Ay7) 410
Sadly ... I got a feeling Lester Holt will tilt this thing in Hillary's favor tonite ... prompting Trump to have an epic meltdown.
Posted by: ScoggDog at September 26, 2016 02:40 PM (xIBU4) Exactly. I think a lot depends on what version of Trump shows up tonight, the quite, sober, rational, and (dare I say it?) humble Trump, or the blustering egomaniacal buffoon Trump? And if it's Trump1, can Hillary force an appearance of Trump2? Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2016 02:49 PM (CehCK) 411
@378: "Do you think his political beliefs cloud his methodology? Keeping in mind, of course, that if he found out unfairly weighting his polls even once then his credibility is gone forever ..."
Has Brandon published one of his analyses in any left-leaning magazines? Or just NRO? Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 02:49 PM (21hN3) 412
I think they've made him such a monster that all he has to do is show up and be likable.
It worked for Reagan. Posted by: tu3031 at September 26, 2016 02:49 PM (qJhUV) 413
I'm still reeling from '08. My sense of hope has diminished powerfully.
Posted by: washrivergal madly and deeply deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:50 PM (CFc5L) 414
403 Is one of the debate rules a prohibition of flash cameras so The Hag doesn't have a nationally viewed seizure?
Posted by: Marcus T I'm quite sure that ALL electronic devices of ANY kind are completely banned at the debate. People will be wanded and X-rayed, like at the airport "extra security" line, and anything -- cell phones, cameras, laser pointers, GoPros, flashlights, frequency scanners, digital recorders, GameBoys, etc. -- ALL OF IT -- will be put into plastic tubs and can only be retrieved later, after the debate is over. Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 02:50 PM (jBuUi) 415
Bet that's not in Nate's margin of error.
*** I would argue it is. If the poll results out of Philly, for example, consistently undercount the number of D votes because you can't poll the dead pollsters WILL eventually include a fudge factor to account for it. Posted by: 18-1 at September 26, 2016 02:50 PM (X7E8f) 416
Romney also had personal limitations that let him be painted as Scrooge McDuck.
-------------------------- Indeed. He was a great likeness. Posted by: RioBravo at September 26, 2016 02:50 PM (NUqwG) 417
"Bet that's not in Nate's margin of error."
And if Nate is sitting there going "Even with all that, we're fcuked", then what? Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2016 02:51 PM (J+eG2) 418
419 Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 02:49 PM (21hN3)
NRO is left leaning by my read these days. Posted by: sven10077 at September 26, 2016 02:51 PM (SzZnW) 419
297 I'd give my left nut to hack Hillary's earpiece.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:24 PM At a minimum, we'll need the bigger one. Posted by: Beelzebub at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (hSk36) All bigger what? Left nut? Posted by: Killerdog at September 26, 2016 02:51 PM (h8+bL) 420
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Standing by! Posted by: War on Tampons ! at September 26, 2016 02:47 PM (zu88C) Standing by! Posted by: Red 7 at September 26, 2016 02:48 PM (0mRoj) Standing - well, sitting & wheezing by Posted by: Porkins at September 26, 2016 02:51 PM (7HtZB) 421
What he really needs to do is get the media and the crowd on his side by playing to his strengths and
what? Posted by: Mitt Romney at September 26, 2016 02:51 PM (zu88C) 422
424 Romney also had personal limitations that let him be painted as Scrooge McDuck.
-------------------------- Indeed. He was a great likeness. Posted by: RioBravo at September 26, 2016 02:50 PM (NUqwG) Those leaked photos of him doing the backstroke in a silo filled with gold coins didnt help either. Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:52 PM (0mRoj) 423
Trump: "Hillary I would like to invite you to join me in a recitation of the United States Pledge of Allegiance."
Turns to flag, places hand on heart. "Unless you would prefer to sit down." Posted by: ajmojo at September 26, 2016 02:52 PM (1H9ox) 424
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well, I am willing to begrudge almost anyone anything but nothing wrong with silver turning his hobby into a job. Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:45 PM (cPsPa) Nate Silver was mentioned as an example of someone with the technological skills and the attention span needed to survive in the new economy in the "Deep Work" book by Cal Newport. I love that book. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 26, 2016 02:52 PM (/NlFx) 425
Those old bullshit polls that had Georgia in play did do one bit of good: they trolled the Donkeys into running Hillary ads in Georgia. Georgians took one look at her barrow wight face and one listen to her undead voice and ran the polls up Trump's way again. Lots of commie money and time got wasted there.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 26, 2016 02:47 PM (KDlh/) Thing is, they should have known better after Jimmah's grandson lost by 8% two years ago in the governor's race. Posted by: Country Singer (gab @BertG) at September 26, 2016 02:52 PM (uiwCw) 426
I heard today that Trump hates small furry animals and would force them to pay higher taxes. So, I am voting for Nurse Ratchet for sure.....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 26, 2016 02:52 PM (NuElX) 427
WaPo fashion editor can't wait to tell us how splendidly Hillary's ear trumpet matches her quilt.
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 26, 2016 02:52 PM (2cS/G) 428
Standing by!
Posted by: War on Tampons ! at September 26, 2016 02:47 PM (zu88C) Wont work this year. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at September 26, 2016 02:52 PM (u0lmX) 429
I think a lot depends on what version of Trump shows up tonight
The question is whether Trump really wants to win - in which case he keeps control of himself - or whether he just wants to be the Trump caricature. Note when Romney had this choice....he choose option 2 - though obviously his caricature had a different profile. Posted by: 18-1 at September 26, 2016 02:52 PM (X7E8f) 430
I couldn't listen to Beck talking to Cruz. I lasted about two minutes.
Posted by: Carol at September 26, 2016 02:52 PM (sj3Ax) Posted by: The media Suxs at September 26, 2016 02:53 PM (vhuiM) 432
I'm not accusing Nate Silver of adjusting his results in any way at this point, but the notion that he wouldn't because of worries about his reputation seems rather weak tea.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 26, 2016 02:48 PM (X7E8f) Weak tea? How? Again: a polling firm's ability to remain a polling firm depends upon (1) their predictive success; (2) their reputation for providing unsullied results. Marketing firms, for example,can't work with deliberately skewed data. Neither can political campaigns or whoever else is paying the bills. Thus,my argument that Silver wouldn't run a rigged poll because he might be found out and lose his multimillion dollarpolling business seems pretty strong to me. Posted by: troyriser at September 26, 2016 02:53 PM (OGbEB) 433
317 Wonder if you could get in the debates with one of those super LED flashlights with the strobe setting.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at September 26, 2016 02:35 PM (jsWA ....and this... Will someone PLEASE bring a tactical flashlight that has a strobe feature? Flash that in FAB's eyes - debate won. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 26, 2016 02:36 PM (jxbfJ) Sadly, but understandably, those wouldn't make it past security. But'cha know what would? Your cel fone, with an app programmed to fire the flash in a strobe pattern. And I'm sure some enterprising 'Ron or 'Ette would know where to go in the medical literature to get the oscilloscope-type strobe pattern best suited to induce seizure in those so afflicted? "Hey, there's an App for That!". (?) But there should be! Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at September 26, 2016 02:53 PM (v5iqM) 434
It's a coordinated psych by the Left to attempt turnout suppression. That way when they cheat and hack their way to a win it won't be so suspicious.
At least that's what The Paychic Friends Network told me. Posted by: Marcus T at September 26, 2016 02:53 PM (JILvc) 435
What are the odds of a full throated cough attack?
This will be my hope for 90 minutes. First, a tickle. Slugs down some water with thickener. People cough in audience. Beast of Benghazi's thought cloud: "People are coughing in audience. My throat tickles. uh-oh. Think about something else! Huma. Grandchildren. There it is again! ugh. Oh, wait, what was the question? What is Trump saying. Tickle.Tickle. TICKLE. Gently clear your throat Hillary. Uh-oh. Here it comes!" COUGH/COUGH/COUGH/HACK/GURGLE/HARF She then opens one of her trusty cough losenges while hacking into fist (Mr. Trump notes her left fist, whew, he won't shake THAT hand after debate) while holding up one index finger to stupid moderator. So moderator give Mr. Trump extra question. In background of Mr. Trump's answer, Hilz will be wheezing and spewing and, yes, still coughing. Possibly aspirating cough drop. But no breaks. Minutes later there is a blissful pause in the horking and snorking. So moderator asks Harridan of Hell an easy question. She attempts to take a wheezy breath to answer. Squeeky strained voice rasps out a few words and she then goes into another coughing fit, nastier than prior as you can hear mucous rattling in upper bronchi between wheezing (she may try to spew into glass at this point, grossing out millions). The debate will continue this way until she either falls off elevated podium due to a seizure of some type or a true done fall out medical emergency (keep in mind that these coughing and hacking jags of her's raise blood pressure, which is not good for the ole clot in her head sinus thingamabob). There is no way I am missing this. If she coughs and rolls her wonky eye and even falls off podium the MSM will declare her the victor...even if she does not answer one single question. Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Deplorable Infidel Queen at September 26, 2016 02:53 PM (Cx8BK) 436
Oh, and I do not give a shart about any poll.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Deplorable Infidel Queen at September 26, 2016 02:54 PM (Cx8BK) 437
NRO is left leaning by my read these days.
*** Whether Trump is, or is not, a real convert to conservatism, he has certainly shown how many supposed conservatives aren't. I'm looking at you NRO. Posted by: 18-1 at September 26, 2016 02:54 PM (X7E8f) 438
So let's say that Trump does win. Does that mean the Left will no longer hold up Nate Silver as the Most Smartest Evah?
Corollary: Does that mean the Right will no longer say that Nate Silver was given inside access to the margin of fraud? If you are sensing some bitterness that 2012 made me state that Nate Silver was right, why, that's ludicrous. Holding a grudge and being bitter doesn't sound like me in the slightest! Posted by: alexthechick - unskewed at September 26, 2016 02:54 PM (mf5HN) 439
Nate Silver was mentioned as an example of someone with the technological skills and the attention span needed to survive in the new economy in the "Deep Work" book by Cal Newport.
I love that book. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 26, 2016 02:52 PM (/NlFx) huh. have not read it. will order it this evening. Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:54 PM (cPsPa) 440
"the entire left just sharted." This must mean, then, that anyone flying with members of the press will live "Sharts on a Plane". Posted by: Arbalest the Deplorable at September 26, 2016 02:54 PM (FlRtG) Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 02:54 PM (21hN3) 442
Why does Trump hate "woman that cough so much" ?????
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 26, 2016 02:54 PM (NuElX) 443
Heh. "Trump picks up endorsement of Immigration Officers" That's the kind of endorsement that should mean something, if endorsements actually meant anything. I don't think we can count on hillary to shake and bake tonight, but if she has a freeze up, a goooglly eye fit, or falls over, I will actually dip my balls in pudding. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 26, 2016 02:55 PM (ODxAs) 444
Hey, where's the poll troll?
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 26, 2016 02:55 PM (O2RFr) 445
Sadly, but understandably, those wouldn't make it past security. But'cha know what would?
Your cel fone, with an app programmed to fire the flash in a strobe pattern. Flashlight app. Can adjust rate of strobe or go SOS. Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:55 PM (Hb9w3) 446
"Hey, there's an App for That!". (?) But there should be!
>>> Why yes there is. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ape.apps.strobe Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 26, 2016 02:56 PM (wrS2o) 447
Drinking game: every cough or cackle, take a drink.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 26, 2016 02:56 PM (KDlh/) 448
@440: "Weak tea? How? Again: a polling firm's ability to remain a polling firm ..."
538 isn't a polling firm! Repeat: NOT A POLLING FIRM! It's a political analysis organization. Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 02:56 PM (21hN3) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2016 02:56 PM (J+eG2) 450
404 My best case scenario for the debates is Donald Trump says really crazy stuff, scares the crap out of Hillary by walking toward her, and she goes into a 2-minute coughing and barking jag, followed by another full body collapse.
Now that's entertainment. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor My best-case scenario is similar, but more extreme: Trump does everything "wrong": He physically menaces Hillary, he acts rude to her, he spouts factual errors, he uses violent metaphors, he employs sarcasm that can be willfully misinterpreted as literal, he casually sneaks promotional advertising statements about his resorts and branded products, he uses hand-gestures like Mussolini, he has nothing coherent to say about various foreign policy questions, he contradicts himself, etc. etc., while Hillary goes gaffe-free the entire night -- and even after all that, TRUMP STILL GETS A POST_DEBATE BOOST IN THE POLLS. Oh, that would be sweet. Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 02:56 PM (jBuUi) 451
Drink every time one of her eyeballs goes rogue.
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 26, 2016 02:56 PM (2cS/G) 452
Drinking game: every cough or cackle, take a drink.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 26, 2016 02:56 PM (KDlh/) Even the Horde can't survive that alcohol poisoning. Posted by: alexthechick - unskewed at September 26, 2016 02:57 PM (mf5HN) 453
RCP has Clinton up by only .2 in Colorado. If Trump wins CO then he can at least tie.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 26, 2016 02:57 PM (FYrz1) 454
A lot of Hillary's VIP and Administration-in-Waiting support has been based on her Inevitableness, so that she was the right one to suck up to. If she starts looking like a loser, that support will collapse. This will be the Clintons last rodeo.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2016 02:57 PM (r1fLd) 455
Allahpundit is overthinking things again, or just so blinded by white heat rage against Cruz for endorsing Trump:
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/26/glenn-beck-grilling-ted-cruz-endorsed-marco-rubio/ Here is a simpler, more to the point explanation: Glenn Beck is a raving lunatic. Ted Cruz's biggest mistake was letting Glenn Beck within 100 feet of him. Posted by: William Eaton at September 26, 2016 02:57 PM (KhJh8) Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 26, 2016 02:57 PM (KDlh/) 457
If you are sensing some bitterness that 2012 made me state that Nate Silver was right, why, that's ludicrous. Holding a grudge and being bitter doesn't sound like me in the slightest!
Posted by: alexthechick - unskewed Pretty sure that Nate Silver effigy with many pointed objects stuck in it was a clue there. Always give the devil his due... Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 26, 2016 02:58 PM (9krrF) 458
It seems fishy to me that the polls show a tie on the exact day of the 1st debate.
That's how jaded I am now. What drives ratings more than a horse race? And what would give Hillary a better boost than having a stellar debate and then have the polls show her rising? I think this is a media mind game. Posted by: petunia at September 26, 2016 02:58 PM (VoCyE) Posted by: Hillary's Floating Eyeball at September 26, 2016 02:58 PM (ODxAs) 460
Trump should come out in a luchador mask with Pepe on it.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 26, 2016 02:58 PM (wtvvX) 461
Has Brandon published one of his analyses in any left-leaning magazines? Or just NRO?
Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 02:49 PM (21hN3) Not my job to track his career. Or Silver's. My point is that both CAC and Silver come from political communities, for lack of a better term. Both were drawn to polling because they're both politically oriented, albeit from opposite ends of the spectrum.Both rely on their respectivereputation for professionalism and integrity to stay in business. That's it, that's all. If you're making the claim that Silver is inherently crooked because he's (apparently) a Democrat, then show your work. Posted by: troyriser at September 26, 2016 02:58 PM (OGbEB) 462
She then opens one of her trusty cough losenges while hacking into fist (Mr. Trump notes her left fist, whew, he won't shake THAT hand after debate) while holding up one index finger to stupid moderator. So moderator give Mr. Trump extra question.
Trump replies: "I answered my question. Hillary's turn." And stares at her. Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:58 PM (Hb9w3) 463
Hey, Ace just updated the post to give me credit for the "sharted' comment!:
"From zombie, who says "the entire left just sharted."" I'm Internet famous for 15 seconds!!!! Woo-hoo! Posted by: zombie at September 26, 2016 02:58 PM (jBuUi) 464
463 Posted by: William Eaton at September 26, 2016 02:57 PM (KhJh
You'd think AP would look around at his battle line and see Grin Breck and well "no one" and grasp "what am I here for?" Posted by: sven10077 at September 26, 2016 02:59 PM (SzZnW) 465
I heard Trump hates his family. I cannot vote for someone who hates his family so I will vote for Nurse Ratchet, I mean Cankles, no...no...no ..I mean Hillary. Thank You... Can I go now ???
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 26, 2016 02:59 PM (NuElX) 466
so is trump bringing cheerleaders?
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:59 PM (cPsPa) Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 02:59 PM (Hb9w3) 468
Holy cow, behold yon petunia appearance!
Posted by: joncelli, Having a Bad Poll Trip at September 26, 2016 02:59 PM (RD7QR) 469
My best case scenario for the debates is Donald Trump says really crazy stuff, scares the crap out of Hillary by walking toward her, and she goes into a 2-minute coughing and barking jag, followed by another full body collapse.
My best case scenario is a shart so severe her military-grade Depends can't hold it in. Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:59 PM (O7MnT) 470
Thus,my argument that Silver wouldn't run a rigged poll because he might be found out and lose his multimillion dollarpolling business seems pretty strong to me. *** Ok, quickly, without going to the internet, how many pollsters that missed the 2012 election results went out of business because of it? Posted by: 18-1 at September 26, 2016 03:00 PM (X7E8f) 471
471 Hey, Ace just updated the post to give me credit for the "sharted' comment!:
"From zombie, who says "the entire left just sharted."" I'm Internet famous for 15 seconds!!!! Woo-hoo! Golf. Clap. Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 03:00 PM (Hb9w3) 472
I can't watch Luntz because he's on Faux & id rather watch CNN.
Posted by: Carol at September 26, 2016 03:00 PM (sj3Ax) Posted by: Brother Cavil, convening Horde Thunderdome at September 26, 2016 03:00 PM (9krrF) 474
I just hope Trump is himself. Not the tv caricature, the benevolent, smart, in command guy who built a billion dollar business.
I know numerous people who work in his organization and swear it is the best place they ever worked and the man is nothing like what his detractors are making him out to be. That's more than I can say for The Hag. Other than she wins the award for most employees with immunity agreements. Posted by: Marcus T at September 26, 2016 03:00 PM (JILvc) 475
It's a political analysis organization.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 02:56 PM (21hN3) Right, a polling firm. Posted by: troyriser at September 26, 2016 03:01 PM (OGbEB) 476
The only thing I can predict about the debate..
The MEDIA will Jump the Shark... They will be so in the tank either pro Hillary or Anti Trump... that the people who watch the Debate will KNOW they are biased... So my ONLY prediction for the debate, is that trust in the media declines from its already historically low rate. Posted by: Don Q. at September 26, 2016 03:01 PM (qf6WZ) 477
Ok, quickly, without going to the internet, how many pollsters that missed the 2012 election results went out of business because of it?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 26, 2016 03:00 PM (X7E8f) yeah, ask Dick Morris how the bad polling numbers work out for you. Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 03:01 PM (cPsPa) 478
My best case scenario is a shart so severe her military-grade Depends can't hold it in.
Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:59 PM (O7MnT) OH MY GOD, IT'S GONNA BLOW!!! Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 26, 2016 03:01 PM (wtvvX) 479
People are coughing in audience. My throat tickles. uh-oh. Think about something else! Huma. Grandchildren. There it is again! ugh. Oh, wait, what was the question? What is Trump saying. Tickle.Tickle. TICKLE. Gently clear your throat Hillary. Uh-oh. Here it comes!" COUGH/COUGH/COUGH/HACK/GURGLE/HARF
Very good, except I would substitute "Swiss bank accounts" for "grandchildren." You know, something she's really fond of. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at September 26, 2016 03:01 PM (u0lmX) 480
If Trump does well in the debate, and the Beast tanks, I may have to pop some popcorn early just to watch Mika, Joe, Chris Cuomo, and Alyson Camerota in the morning.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:01 PM (1ZOkK) 481
If she coughs, Trump should bring her water and ask if she wants his coat.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 26, 2016 03:01 PM (JILvc) 482
@469: "If you're making the claim that Silver is inherently crooked because he's (apparently) a Democrat, then show your work."
My claim, such as it might be, is that Silver is fully cognizant of his ability to influence popular culture. One need not be crooked or corrupt to use such influence to nudge undecided or unenthusiastic voters in one's preferred direction. Please go listen to some of his podcasts if you honestly believe he's not in the nudging business. Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 03:01 PM (21hN3) Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 03:02 PM (Hb9w3) 484
huh. have not read it. will order it this evening.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:54 PM (cPsPa) Check the library if you want to save some bucks. Ace reviewed the book. Since I'm interested in education, I took away different lessons from it. Basically, the premise of the book is that we are now in a technological age where those people who can use the hardcore technological tools to create value, create new tools (languages, programs) or have the capital to invest in technology are going to do very well. Unfortunately, this is happening at the same time as all of today's networking applications has steadily eroded people's ability to concentrate and do the deep concentrating ("Deep Work") necessary to succeed. I'm interested in spreading this message of the importance of concentration to younger students in my education videos; it's one of my messages. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 26, 2016 03:02 PM (/NlFx) 485
1010 1100 1110 is correct.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 26, 2016 03:02 PM (FtrY1) 486
I have inside info.
holt is going to ask trump to name the 11 potential supreme court justices he submitted in that letter months ago. if he can't remember them, he's going to look like an absolutely clueless buffoon. someone needs to inform the trump campaign that Donald needs to memorize at least a few of those names so that the "gotcha" moment is ruined. Posted by: KHAN's Other Wife at September 26, 2016 03:02 PM (taXZ8) 487
Is one of the debate rules a prohibition of flash cameras
Imagine that. He who rules the disco ball would rule the wasteland... Posted by: Dang Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:02 PM (k0G44) 488
Update: Another poll came out, the Monmouth Poll, showing Hillary ahead 46-42, which might be why Nate Silver has now adjusted Trump's odds downwards to 50.9%. ---------------- My view of the Nowcast says he's got 51.1. Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 03:02 PM (oGNNA) 489
If someone were to start barking loudly in the audience while Hillary is speaking would they get in any sort of trouble? Asking for a friend. Posted by: ajmojo at September 26, 2016 02:41 PM (1H9ox) Only if she starts barking back and gets the whole neighborhood going. Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 26, 2016 03:02 PM (lKyWE) 490
I heard today that Trump hates himself and I cannot vote for someone that hates himself. I will be voting Cankles because President Obama said to do it for him. And because I do not want to be perceived as a rasist and don't care if I have a job...I must vote for Cankles... I must vote for Cankles....
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 26, 2016 03:03 PM (NuElX) 491
Oddly, those two figures sum to 100% -- yet I was told this was not a "Binary" election!!! I don't understand.
________ I'm With Xer! Posted by: WaterCow at September 26, 2016 03:03 PM (EJsAU) Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 03:03 PM (21hN3) 493
You'd think AP would look around at his battle line and see Grin Breck and well "no one" and grasp "what am I here for?"
Posted by: sven10077 at September 26, 2016 02:59 PM (SzZnW) ----------------------------------------------------------- Actually I hope Marco does take on Beck so "The Book of Mario" can then be written. Posted by: William Eaton at September 26, 2016 03:03 PM (KhJh8) 494
The final nail in the coughin' will be Shit Midas reiterating his support for Hillary.
Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2016 03:03 PM (2z74n) 495
I'm Internet famous for 15 seconds!!!! Woo-hoo! === e-celebrity is almost as good as real celebrity Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at September 26, 2016 03:03 PM (U0lQa) 496
Trump: "Mrs. Clinton, what drug or combination of drugs were you injected with by your handlers before coming out on stage here tonight so you would not lose your balance, blank out, or shart?"
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2016 02:36 PM (CehCK) As I posted earlier on another thread and GAB: Yeppers, drugs are a helluva thing. They work just fine until they don't. You aren't allergic to them until you are. The amount of meds they have been pumping into her sick old body just to allow her to go to the few events she hasn't cancelled are building up accrued damage that can come due at any second. TICK TOCK Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at September 26, 2016 03:03 PM (kXoT0) 497
486 My best case scenario is a shart so severe her military-grade Depends can't hold it in. Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 02:59 PM (O7MnT) Would be great if the Depends did but at the price of but her pants bottoms suddenly and dramatically inflating - on camera. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (u0lmX) 498
I'm interested in spreading this message of the importance of concentration to younger students in my education videos; it's one of my messages.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 26, 2016 03:02 PM (/NlFx) well, there is no reason to believe that the appearance of social media etc has changed the way work gets done well. When I am working on something difficult I unplug the computer from the Internet and go into a study. Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (cPsPa) 499
I heard Hillary will win by 620,000,000 votes according to CNN.
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (NuElX) 500
No matter how well Trump does the media will paint it as a fail. It will descend into something about his speech, appearAnce or how he "lied". It's what dishonest hacks do.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (JILvc) 501
Hillary's coughing fits are the result of Trump pulling up next to her at a red light, driving a diesel pickup truck, and rolling the coal in her open window.
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (iIzG7) 502
I just thought of something even more delightful for tonight's debate:
What if, as she coughs and spews, there are loud farhting noises coming from the podium, like a lactose intolerant machine gun. Perhaps the acoustics will ramp up the noise and it will be a staccato cascade of hacking and farting. Mr. Trump, from other podium, will just be seen as an observer of the duet. Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Deplorable Infidel Queen at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (Cx8BK) 503
Posted by: troyriser CAC hasn't been a working co-blog since he got involved in the AoSDD. Been years since he was a regular. He's not in the "polling" business. He writes about polls, especially his sad Pennsylvania obsession. The DD took a stab at predictions and modeling early on, but that didn't work out so good. Now it's trying to be an election nights results competitor to AP. And he is quite libertarian, and one may see that influencing what he writes. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (kdS6q) 504
When Hillz coughs, Trump should note:
"Sounds like you've got a frog in your throat..." Depends. Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (Hb9w3) 505
Ok, quickly, without going to the internet, how many pollsters that missed the 2012 election results went out of business because of it?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 26, 2016 03:00 PM (X7E8f) I don't have to surf the fucking Internet. I wrote, '...found out that he deliberately weighted results'. Which is an entirely different legal and moralthing from just getting it wrong. But you know this. Posted by: troyriser at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (OGbEB) 506
485 Ok, quickly, without going to the internet, how many pollsters that missed the 2012 election results went out of business because of it? ---------------- Gallup, sort of. They removed themselves from the business of presidential polling this year although I can't remember what their prediction was in 2012. Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (oGNNA) Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (J+eG2) Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 26, 2016 03:05 PM (wtvvX) 509
so is trump bringing cheerleaders?
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 02:59 PM (cPsPa) Vegas showgirls. His entrance will be yuuge, with feathers bobbing around, babes smiling, sequins flashing randomly in the white lights of the stage, blinding Hillary, shorting out her visual sensor system... Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsors The Hillary Whisperer! at September 26, 2016 03:05 PM (hLRSq) 510
For opening statement, Trump should tear a license plate in half, rip a phone book in half, and then roll up a frying pan and toss it into the crowd.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 26, 2016 03:05 PM (d9v6L) 511
Which is an entirely different legal and moralthing from just getting it wrong.
___ That's right - I could find no intent either. Posted by: James Comey at September 26, 2016 03:05 PM (X7E8f) 512
Our reliable, dispassionate, studied conclusion is that Donald Trump is Lucifer and the forces of good must stand against him!
Posted by: Chuck Todd at September 26, 2016 03:05 PM (/m8T6) 513
Too bad there won't be any morons on the front row. I'd have myself a lil' coughing fit. Actually, more than one.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:06 PM (1ZOkK) 514
An audible shart from The Hag would be great. But I'm sure one thing she's loading up on is immodium.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 26, 2016 03:06 PM (JILvc) Posted by: steevy at September 26, 2016 03:06 PM (fA75F) 516
If she coughs, Trump should bring her water and ask if she wants his coat. Leap across the stage and impale her with an epi-pen. A silver one. Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2016 03:06 PM (2z74n) 517
Too funneh. Gonna be a wild ride from here on.
Hillary joke: Q: Where does Hillary get her pizzas? A: Little Seizures. Posted by: deplorable oddknot still frets at September 26, 2016 03:06 PM (g1MTt) 518
Is anyone going to check her for an earpiece? Seriously.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:07 PM (1ZOkK) 519
Fred Berfall,
Don't worry about voting against Evil Hillary, who cares if The JEF thinks you're a racist. He's almost out of The People's House! It can't be soon enough. Posted by: Carol at September 26, 2016 03:07 PM (sj3Ax) 520
So let's say that Trump does win. Does that mean the Left will no longer hold up Nate Silver as the Most Smartest Evah?
He'll still be smartest, but the voter fraud by the evil vast right wing conspiracy of phallocrats to keep down the heroic 37th female presidential nominee is to blame for her loss. After all, she should be up by 50 points! Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 03:07 PM (39g3+) Posted by: deplorable donna at September 26, 2016 03:07 PM (O2RFr) 522
When I am working on something difficult I unplug the computer from the Internet and go into a study.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (cPsPa) Which is great for you. And that's how I like to work too. But there are books out there "The Shallows" (which I haven't read) and others where people argue that people's attention spans have drastically declined since the appearance of all of these tools. I think that unless kids have strict parents, or someone that forces them to unplug, it's pretty easy for them to be left on the internet, hitting refresh over and over on their favorite blog, hoping for new comments. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 26, 2016 03:08 PM (/NlFx) 523
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 26, 2016 03:04 PM (kdS6q)
Thanks for the update but covering CAC's career wasn't really my point. My point is (and remains) that it is highlyunlikely a reputable polling firm would engage in election year shenanigans since high-profile polling firms depend largely on their reputations to stay in business. That's it, that's all. Posted by: troyriser at September 26, 2016 03:08 PM (OGbEB) 524
If Trump wins the election, Whoopi sez she'll leave The View in '17. Hasn't promised to leave the country. Yet.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:08 PM (1ZOkK) 525
>>so you would not lose your balance, blank out, or shart?"
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2016 02:36 PM (CehCK) The guys get shirts. This gal gets sharts. Posted by: General Zod at September 26, 2016 03:08 PM (Bdeb0) 526
>>>Vegas showgirls. His entrance will be yuuge, with feathers bobbing around, babes smiling, sequins flashing randomly in the white lights of the stage, blinding Hillary, shorting out her visual sensor system...
I don't like the way they cover up the jugs with the feathers! Posted by: Mo Wanchuk at September 26, 2016 03:08 PM (d9v6L) 527
When The Hag tries to sell a policy she sounds like the "Sham-wow" guy. So this should be more like one of those TV reality shows.
Advantage Trump. Posted by: Marcus T at September 26, 2016 03:08 PM (JILvc) 528
An audible shart from The Hag would be great.
Yeah having her cut loose like that scene in Dumb & Dumber would be hilarious. And her barking again. They should drop something from the ceiling to get that gaze again, too. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 03:09 PM (39g3+) 529
Still disappointed Hillz won't be balancing on a stool.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:09 PM (1ZOkK) 530
What if, as she coughs and spews, there are loud farhting noises coming from the podium ---------------- When the odor gets intolerable, Trump should stop, turn to her, and kindly say, "Hillary, you need a bathroom break. You've lost a lot of fluids. And solids." Posted by: iforgot says God bless Snorky at September 26, 2016 03:09 PM (oGNNA) 531
I hope Hillary comes out with that same god-awful screeching, harangue that she released on video last week. That voice caused crop death and rendered livestock infertile in at least 4 states. Posted by: Mortimer: deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:09 PM (zu88C) 532
"... it's pretty easy for them to be left on the internet, hitting refresh
over and over on their favorite blog, hoping for new comments." Infidel, are you peeking in my office window again? I'll hit F5 to see your answer. Posted by: Qoheleth at September 26, 2016 03:09 PM (iIzG7) 533
Just setting the narrative, just like they did during the conventions. Trump up, then a triumphant Hilliary gets a huge bounce that lasts 2 months. They'll be rigging the polls after the debate to show Hilliary way ahead after their pre-written debate scorecards show her dominating - and praying that demoralizes Trump voters enough to keep them from voting.
Posted by: Lymond at September 26, 2016 03:10 PM (wH6vD) 534
First thing President Trump needs to do (after having the WH sanitized) is clean out the DoJ.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:10 PM (1ZOkK) 535
It would be funny if they woke her up late from her nap. Running on stage wiping the sleepies out of her eyes and pulling up her Depends.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 26, 2016 03:10 PM (JILvc) 536
The left will claim victory if Hillary stands successfuly through the debate.
Posted by: steevy at September 26, 2016 03:11 PM (fA75F) 537
James Comey must be getting a little anxious.
Posted by: wth at September 26, 2016 03:11 PM (HgMAr) 538
@531: "... highly unlikely a reputable polling firm would engage in election year shenanigans since high-profile polling firms depend largely on their reputations to stay in business."
And, again, they're not a polling firm. They're a political analysis and commentary organization wholly owned by ESPN and Disney. They survive on advertising clicks. Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 26, 2016 03:11 PM (21hN3) 539
I think that unless kids have strict parents, or someone that forces
them to unplug, it's pretty easy for them to be left on the internet, hitting refresh over and over on their favorite blog, hoping for new comments.>>> I resemble that remark except for the kid part. Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 26, 2016 03:11 PM (P/aDH) 540
Everyone speculates that a Trump loss will lead to a Republican Civil War. But what happens on the Democrat side if Hillary loses.
For one, I think the Clintons are done. They will be unceremoniously thrown out of the party. But I also think the party will go even harder left because the drift of the Democrat Party toward open Communism is downhill and gaining momentum. Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 03:11 PM (O7MnT) 541
Oh, she'll be balancing on a stool tonight.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 26, 2016 03:11 PM (KDlh/) 542
Dear Morons,
For the entire 90 minutes think: "Thoat tickle" over and over again until you see her turkey wobbles turn red (of course this may be due to her allergy to Mr. Trump and her lies coming to the surface of wrinkled throat). Think this until she coughs and coughs and coughs. Then think, harf, harf, harf. As this progresses, think "Left eye wonky" Thus the triad will be complete, unless, of course, there is a body freeze done fall out, which will be the jackpot winner. Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Deplorable Infidel Queen at September 26, 2016 03:11 PM (Cx8BK) 543
>>>Bet that's not in Nate's margin of error.
*** I would argue it is. If the poll results out of Philly, for example, consistently undercount the number of D votes because you can't poll the dead pollsters WILL eventually include a fudge factor to account for it. . . . .The latest Wapo poll for PA had a D+12 sample and that one shows Trump up by 1. obama only got a D+7 in 2008 and hillary isn't going to come anywhere close to that. Nate got famous for predictions because he didn't just use the poll results. He went in and parsed the heck out of every poll's methodology used and balanced that mathematically with previous election turnouts and results. In essence, he unskewed each and every poll and came up with the correct results more often than not. The left loved him in 2008 and 2012. Not sure that is going to happen this time. He needs to watch his back. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 26, 2016 03:11 PM (iONHu) 544
V the K, so like Labour under Cornyn, then?
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 26, 2016 03:12 PM (KDlh/) 545
There's nothing worse than waddling to the restroom hoping nobody notices that moistness seeping thru your garments.
Posted by: Fritz at September 26, 2016 03:12 PM (2Mnv1) 546
I think Trump's best approach is to just ignore horrific things that happen to Hillary. Be presidential, be noble, be professional and look like a leader. No snide cracks, no sarcastic jerk moves. Show some concern if something really awful happens, don't mug for the camera.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 03:12 PM (39g3+) 547
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James Comey must be getting a little anxious. Posted by: wth at September 26, 2016 03:11 PM (HgMAr) As well he should. I'm sure the Beast and her minions have made him a few promises. Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:12 PM (1ZOkK) 548
The left will claim victory if Hillary stands successfuly through the debate.
"So lifelike...", they will fawn. "Practically human!" Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2016 03:13 PM (2z74n) Posted by: Mortimer: deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:13 PM (zu88C) 550
Nood - Mall shooter
Posted by: josephistan at September 26, 2016 03:14 PM (7HtZB) 551
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First thing President Trump needs to do (after having the WH sanitized) is clean out the DoJ. Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:10 PM (1ZOkK) Then the EPA, the IRS, Dept of Education, Dept of Energy, boot Yellen from the Fed, .............. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 26, 2016 03:14 PM (jxbfJ) 552
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 26, 2016 03:08 PM (/NlFx)
What is to be done when it's the *parent* hitting F5 like a crack-addled monkey? It doesn't help that a lot of my work requires internet access so all my good intentions to leave the HQ behind forever usually only last about 2 hours (this is approximately the sixth time I've [not] quit the HQ in the last four years). Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 26, 2016 03:14 PM (GDulk) 553
I think Trump's best approach is to just ignore
horrific things that happen to Hillary. Be presidential, be noble, be professional and look like a leader. No snide cracks, no sarcastic jerk moves. Show some concern if something really awful happens, don't mug for the camera. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 03:12 PM (39g3+) Yeah, this. Plus, can't mock the first Grrrrrlll candidate. Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:14 PM (1ZOkK) 554
Debates should really be like a boxing match - each opponent in his/her corner, getting pumped up by their trainers and jogging around each other, feinting, punching...
Posted by: IC at September 26, 2016 03:14 PM (a0IVu) 555
Hillary's Pre-Debate Prep Checklist:
(1) Anti-seizure meds (2) Throat lozenges (3) Coumadin (4) "Bring me my brown pantsuit!" Posted by: Qoheleth at September 26, 2016 03:14 PM (iIzG7) 556
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HE'LL PUT US ALL IN THE CAMPS!!! Posted by: The Hysterical Sally Kohn at September 26, 2016 01:56 PM (qJhUV) ............ At least Trump Camp will have gambling and hookers. Posted by: wth at September 26, 2016 03:14 PM (HgMAr) 557
For one, I think the Clintons are done. They will be unceremoniously thrown out of the party. But I also think the party will go even harder left because the drift of the Democrat Party toward open Communism is downhill and gaining momentum.
------------- On the one hand, this will be good for the Democrats, because it will force them to find new talent (and I don't mean to imply that Hillary is talent). On the other hand, its not that they will go further left (I'm not even sure possible), but they will stay to the far left they are - Hillary didn't even attempt to bring them back to center. More than a Hillary loss, what will really affect the Dem party is what Trump's first two years are like. Posted by: SH at September 26, 2016 03:14 PM (gmeXX) 558
Anyone remember George the Double You? And the news media? Ya, Trump as president is going to be worse than that. Maybe even as bad as Lincoln. Posted by: Him the Ham at September 26, 2016 03:15 PM (Jw9xt) 559
If the Dem's lose this election they are done for a long time. That means they've unzipped their fly for no reason at all other than to expose themselves to people who finally have figured out what a bunch of fraudulent, dirty, lying, double-dealing bastards they are.
People have long memories when you make them dupes and your personal both that you laugh at when they aren't in the room. They know this. It's why they are freaking they might lose. Posted by: Marcus T at September 26, 2016 03:15 PM (JILvc) 560
1. They will not get close to Hillary with the cameras because of her weird eye movements and the possibility of an earpiece. They'll stay back, maybe on both her and Trump so it's not obvious. 2. If she get all stiff, foams at the mouth and shits her pants they'll cut away to a commercial break because "no one needs to see that". 3. They'll probably be horrible harsh lighting on Trump and a hot air vent blowing in his face all night. 4. Hillary will pull off a really lame "zinger" and the audience and pundits will go absolutely nuts with enthusiasm and zeal. It will be dubbed the turning point of her campaign and the moment she found her voice. Posted by: Dang Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:15 PM (k0G44) 561
541 Just setting the narrative, just like they did during the conventions. Trump up, then a triumphant Hilliary gets a huge bounce that lasts 2 months. They'll be rigging the polls after the debate to show Hilliary way ahead after their pre-written debate scorecards show her dominating - and praying that demoralizes Trump voters enough to keep them from voting.
Posted by: Lymond at September 26, 2016 03:10 PM (wH6vD) Sure, that's the script. However, the Real World might have a way of upending the Narrative. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at September 26, 2016 03:15 PM (u0lmX) 562
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 26, 2016 03:08 PM (/NlFx)
Unless they are playing their favorite video game... or chatting about their favorite subject... Its not that Kids can't or don't concentrate... its that they don't wish to concentrate on what THEY want them to concentrate on. I know... I was one of those kids... 50 years ago... Posted by: Don Q. at September 26, 2016 03:15 PM (qf6WZ) 563
Everyone speculates that a Trump loss will lead to a Republican Civil
War. But what happens on the Democrat side if Hillary loses. === look at their back bench. I think their most likely prospect for a candidate might be Keith Ellison. All the rest are just as bad or worse. Maxine Waters, for example. Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at September 26, 2016 03:16 PM (U0lQa) 564
They will be unceremoniously thrown out of the party.
They have the goods on too many people. And billions of foreign cash. Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2016 03:16 PM (2z74n) 565
Hillary's Pre-Debate Prep Checklist:
(1) Anti-seizure meds (2) Throat lozenges (3) Coumadin (4) "Bring me my brown pantsuit!" Posted by: Qoheleth at September 26, 2016 03:14 PM (iIzG7) ........... (3a) Sponge bath Posted by: wth at September 26, 2016 03:16 PM (HgMAr) 566
this will be good for the Democrats, because it will force them to find new talent
Put me in, coach! Posted by: Zombie Marion Berry! at September 26, 2016 03:16 PM (k0G44) 567
...can't mock the first Grrrrrlll candidate. -------------------------------------------- But the next day Trump should say "we tried to kick a little ass last night." Posted by: HW Bushy at September 26, 2016 03:17 PM (NUqwG) 568
Talent? Ha. It's about what your party represents and gaining credibility you will actually do what you say.
Dems have lied so long about their intentions and delivered nothing that if a president Trump delivers something for them it will rightly cement people's impressions. Posted by: Marcus T at September 26, 2016 03:17 PM (JILvc) 569
Oh, yes, Mortimer @539...she won lots of male votes that day and her "Why am I not 50 points ahead" shriek. Just imagine, Bill and the SS have to see this Hillary every single day in hell. I am pretty confident Bill has a safe room in their compound.
If she comes out "on fire" from her steroids (who cares about her liver and kidneys. What does it matter anymore? Steroids on top of steroids and speed to balance the levadopa and codeine)...you can bet she will be Shrillary and barking mad. But then, my flying monkeys, the drugs will gradually wind down like an old clock til the next rewinding. She will either start with the coughing or wobbling and bobbing and wonky eye. I am thinking after the first hour til she done fall out or it ends and she forgets about the platform and faceplants for a grand finale. Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Deplorable Infidel Queen at September 26, 2016 03:18 PM (Cx8BK) 570
New thread...
What is to be done when it's the *parent* hitting F5 like a crack-addled monkey? It doesn't help that a lot of my work requires internet access so all my good intentions to leave the HQ behind forever usually only last about 2 hours (this is approximately the sixth time I've [not] quit the HQ in the last four years). Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 26, 2016 03:14 PM (GDulk) That's one reason in part why I'm working on videos to help kids study more effectively. And since I'm going to be targeted by SJWs at some point, pissing off the SJW group is now part of my brand. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 26, 2016 03:18 PM (/NlFx) 571
BTW...I think Silver's model probably works with the standard Republican vs. Democrat Presidential election since Nixon's realignment in 1968, or at the very least since Reagan's win in 1980.
However this is not a standard election. For example: Trump is the anti-trade, less hawkish (at least toward Russia) and hated by the wealthy candidate, whereas Clinton is a free-trading internationalist, hawkish (at least toward Russia), candidate, loved by the rich candidate. Posted by: William Eaton at September 26, 2016 03:18 PM (KhJh8) 572
Everyone speculates that a Trump loss will lead to a Republican Civil War. But what happens on the Democrat side if Hillary loses.
For one, I think the Clintons are done. They will be unceremoniously thrown out of the party. But I also think the party will go even harder left because the drift of the Democrat Party toward open Communism is downhill and gaining momentum. Posted by: V the K at September 26, 2016 03:11 PM (O7MnT) If Trump wins the election, most of the neo-cons, pundit class, and Republican big money shift to the Democrats. Then it becomes a Dem civil war over how far left to steer the party. Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 26, 2016 03:20 PM (Ee2nz) 573
I'm not going to cry either of them a river...but, even as a person who does not have the "speaking in front of people is worth than death" gene (in fact, I rather enjoy it).....I do not envy them the pressure they must feel right now. World's biggest stage and they are going to be in the absolute center of it.
Can't quite fathom how intense that would be. Posted by: ajmojo at September 26, 2016 03:20 PM (1H9ox) 574
Killarys not going to pass out tonight....she's got a slow dip vodka IV going...as long as they keep the Valium away from her...she'll be her old..... full glory..... drunken..... lyin self.....and trump will bury her and that Presstitute Holt ...it will be obvious....even tho the lost all crediblilty media hacks..... will chalk it up as a Hillary win....unless she has to be carried off due to nervous breakdown...
Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at September 26, 2016 03:20 PM (6WPRH) 575
I know... I was one of those kids... 50 years ago...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 26, 2016 03:15 PM (qf6WZ) Me too. But I also think concentration needs to be developed. When I was a computer consultant in Ohio, I had the attention span of a monkey on crack. Fortunately, I was in client support with my attention constantly pulled in multiple directions at the same time. I'm much better now but I still have days like this where I'm fine to let myself be distracted. New thread. Posted by: Stateless Infidel at September 26, 2016 03:22 PM (/NlFx) 576
They have the goods on too many people. And billions of foreign cash. Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2016 03:16 PM (2z74n) The Obama Foundation will want that billions in foreign cash. Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 26, 2016 03:22 PM (lKyWE) 577
Ace, are you going to have a live feed tonight? I just get too nervous watching debates live...but I just watch for your comments and if things are going good will tune in..Thanks...
Posted by: Bev at September 26, 2016 03:22 PM (I1lZ5) 578
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I think Trump's best approach is to just ignore horrific things that happen to Hillary. Be presidential, be noble, be professional and look like a leader. No snide cracks, no sarcastic jerk moves. Show some concern if something really awful happens, don't mug for the camera. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2016 03:12 PM (39g3+) Ok. I guess he should nix the idea of coming out on stage wearing those glasses with eyeballs on springs. Posted by: washrivergal madly and deeply deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:23 PM (CFc5L) 579
Maybe not. If Trump is elected, the Fed will tank
the economy. Count on it. The Media, the Dems and the GOP-e will blame it on opposition to immigration and 'free trade', i.e. letting the multinationals access the US market from the Third World with cheap labor and no regulation. Unlike with Bush, the Media will not play it that Obama's Bubble burst. It will be all on Trump. There is a lot of money riding on cheap foreign labor and using that to access the US market until the US market collapses. Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 26, 2016 02:32 PM (fgOnp) I don't doubt that the Fed is going to raise interest rates. They have to at some point. You can't just keep printing money forever. But in the context of President Trump cutting regulations, killing Obamacare, ending waste on green energy/climate change, and increasing spending on military, homeland security (including the wall) and infrastructure (and he hasn't said anything about cutting anywhere), then it might actually be a wise move for the Fed to raise rates, because all those other things are likely to lead to blowout growth in demand and possibly, therefore, to inflation. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 26, 2016 03:23 PM (DC/ZC) 580
Ajmojo...but imagine, if you can, the pressure not to cough, not to head bobble, not to allow eye to go wonky, not to trip, not to sound mean and shrill, not to freeze or done fall out. With the full knowledge that people are watching, not just the debate, but if she will do any of these things.
The pressure, I assure you, is all hers. Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Deplorable Infidel Queen at September 26, 2016 03:24 PM (Cx8BK) 581
The only reason people even site Monmouth polls is that they got lucky at the end of the cycle in Obama's election.
These idiots are using registered voters instead of likely, they have a plus or minus 3.5% margin of error, their weighting is based on 2008 and 2012 - meaning they give a 6 point bias to women voters and they believe 18 to 34 year olds will turn out in higher numbers than +65's. Sure, the kids came out for the Obama election, but every indication on earth is that they don't give a shit about Hillary. Who would treat this poll like fact? Posted by: jwest at September 26, 2016 03:25 PM (Zs4uk) Posted by: Carol at September 26, 2016 03:26 PM (sj3Ax) 583
4. Hillary will pull off a really lame "zinger" and
the audience and pundits will go absolutely nuts with enthusiasm and zeal. It will be dubbed the turning point of her campaign and the moment she found her voice. Posted by: Dang Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:15 PM (k0G44) 100% chance of this. They have probably had all the talent in Hollywood working on it for weeks. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 26, 2016 03:26 PM (DC/ZC) Posted by: jwest at September 26, 2016 03:26 PM (Zs4uk) 585
Would it be bullying if Trump asks Holt for some frebreeze and says it smells like someone chit themselves up here?????
Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at September 26, 2016 03:26 PM (6WPRH) 586
If Trump wins the election, most of the neo-cons, pundit class, and Republican big money shift to the Democrats. Then it becomes a Dem civil war over how far left to steer the party.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 26, 2016 03:20 PM (Ee2nz) --------------------------------------------------------- So it will be a dysfunctional mess of Crony Capitalists, Neo-Cons, and Communists. Posted by: William Eaton at September 26, 2016 03:27 PM (KhJh8) 587
"So it will be a dysfunctional mess of Crony Capitalists, Neo-Cons, and Communists."
Yep, better known as The Borg. Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2016 03:27 PM (r1fLd) 588
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For one, I think the Clintons are done. They will be unceremoniously thrown out of the party. But I also think the party will go even harder left because the drift of the Democrat Party toward open Communism is downhill and gaining momentum. ------------- On the one hand, this will be good for the Democrats, because it will force them to find new talent (and I don't mean to imply that Hillary is talent). On the other hand, its not that they will go further left (I'm not even sure possible), but they will stay to the far left they are - Hillary didn't even attempt to bring them back to center. More than a Hillary loss, what will really affect the Dem party is what Trump's first two years are like. Posted by: SH at September 26, 2016 03:14 PM (gmeXX) They have a lot more seats in the Senate to defend in the midterms than the GOP does. The real bloodletting will be after that happens. Inevitably, they have to find someone with a more centrist voice in order to be credible, and they will. But it will be fun watching the Warren and Sanders show for the next 4 years. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 26, 2016 03:29 PM (DC/ZC) 589
Just bear in mind that even if Trump wins, he'll have to win by at least five percent to overcome Democratic fraud.
Posted by: Brown Line at September 26, 2016 03:29 PM (667Qv) 590
Even if he clinched it tonight with a flawless debate performance, never forget the Clinton's will do ANYTHING to win.
They will steal the election if it comes to that and they will do it shamelessly. Posted by: PBJ1515 at September 26, 2016 03:30 PM (PsdJu) 591
But Trump has the "Audit the Fed" card to play.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at September 26, 2016 03:30 PM (jsWA8) 592
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4. Hillary will pull off a really lame "zinger" and the audience and pundits will go absolutely nuts with enthusiasm and zeal. It will be dubbed the turning point of her campaign and the moment she found her voice. Posted by: Dang Deplorable at September 26, 2016 03:15 PM (k0G44) 100% chance of this. They have probably had all the talent in Hollywood working on it for weeks. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 26, 2016 03:26 PM (DC/ZC) But I give it 50-50 she screws up the delivery somehow, so the sound bite will sound "off" when it's re-run. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 26, 2016 03:30 PM (DC/ZC) 593
Yep, better known as The Borg.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2016 03:27 PM (r1fLd) ---------------------------------------------------------------- I can see one now party plank already: America must fight racist Russia to reestablish "Islamocommunism" in Eastern Europe. Posted by: William Eaton at September 26, 2016 03:31 PM (KhJh8) 594
597 and 598 -- 100% chance that there will be a recount in one or more states, a la Florida 2000.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 26, 2016 03:32 PM (DC/ZC) 595
Hillarys zingers so far have consisted of: ..... the never truthful Hillary accusing Trump of lying....... and the woman who denied a private server.....scrubbed the private server....deleted her emails.....and had all her aides and associates plead the 5th in relation to the above accusing Trump of having something to hide......she's got a big mountain to climb to find a successful "zinger" ....my bet is Donalds zingers Trump her dead mans hand....
Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at September 26, 2016 03:35 PM (6WPRH) 596
Do you know how I know Trump will win? Even my most ardent D social media friends are apologizing for Hillary and basically beggin for votes. It's hilarious. Never seen it before. Everyone else is quiet. The shy Tories are going to be a pretty large group this time. In growing more and more confident every day.
Posted by: Czar Peter at September 26, 2016 03:35 PM (8pwSa) 597
604 Union Millineal males are going Trump across the spectrum....the never voted before Union non college working class afraid of being replaced by border hoppers is going to get out and vote like their jobs depend upon it...Ive been signing them up since the primaries...trump is the cool candidate maw clinton is old tired and crooked
Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at September 26, 2016 03:40 PM (6WPRH) 598
Gallup went out of Presidential polling because old man Gallup said he feared for his and his employees' safety.
Long BEFORE Trump was the nominee. Posted by: Richard McEnroe at September 26, 2016 03:41 PM (Kucy5) 599
The Republicans HAD their civil war. Preince Reince Priebus thinks he won because he drove all the peasants from the realm. But winter is coming and the harvest hasn't been gathered yet. George R.R. Martin is taking notes...
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at September 26, 2016 03:44 PM (Kucy5) 600
Granted she has medical issues, but how hard could it be to answer questions if indeed she has some sort of little helper piping answers in through an earpiece?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 26, 2016 03:54 PM (EnGQE) 601
I wonder what kind of medication cocktail she will be on tonight?
Enough to stop the cough and she will be zoned and unsteady. Posted by: sunny at September 26, 2016 03:54 PM (XBatu) 602
ChristyBlinky, please post more often.
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at September 26, 2016 03:55 PM (pZEKq) 603
Thanks, Miss Wendy. xoxo
I fly in on my broom now and then for Hilz Haggard Harridan snark or terrorist attacks. Remember, focus, debate morons. Mental strength for coughing. You will see her fighting the tickles. You will hear morons coughing in audience. Our mental thoughts will submerge into an implosion of coughing, hacking and spewing. Fifteen minutes in focus, hard. Then move on to head bobble and eye wonkies. xoxo Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Deplorable Infidel Queen at September 26, 2016 04:13 PM (Cx8BK) 604
Why is Hilary running ads in NJ, it is a very expensive media market?
Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2016 04:19 PM (ngn8T) 605
612 Why is Hilary running ads in NJ, it is a very expensive media market?
>>>>> Lots of overlap w/ PA/Philly airwaves is why Posted by: Tradd at September 26, 2016 04:34 PM (GSJcT) 606
You'd have to be a fcuinkg Sype not to want Trump. Skype tribalism is the only thing that explains not wanting an end to white America's systematic displacement.
You #nevertrumpers are TRAITORS. Posted by: Fash the Nationalist at September 26, 2016 04:57 PM (mt/Ry) 607
Posted by: Fash the Nationalist at September 26, 2016 04:57 PM (mt/Ry)
Lol you're too good to be true. Posted by: m-zero-x at September 26, 2016 05:23 PM (zWTYO) 608
New to the horde so hope all of you will find me deplorable enough to join you. Anyway, here if my input for today. I drove around 10 miles around my area in NE suburb of Phila (Montgomery County). This was a route I frequently drove in 2008 and 2012 (retired now) and being a political junkie I would make a note of presidential signage. In 2008 I saw 20 Obama signs for every 6 for McCain. In 2012 there were about 16 Obama for every 8 Romney. Today, amazingly, I saw only 1 large Trump sign outside a car parts business and only 1 Hillary on a lawn. That is it- lack of enthusiasm or fear to put signs out. Thoughts?
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Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings) George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer Top Top Tens
Democratic Forays into Erotica New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party" Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?" Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance Collective Names for Groups of People John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive" Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments John Edwards Campaign Excuses John Kerry Pick-Up Lines Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney Torments in Dog-Hell Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny More Margaret Cho Abuse Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed" Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means Wonkette's Stand-Up Act Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report! Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet The House of Love: Paul Krugman A Michael Moore Mystery (TM) The Dowd-O-Matic! Liberal Consistency and Other Myths Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate "Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long) The Donkey ("The Raven" parody) News/Chat
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