McClatchey Reporter: Yes, Jim Asher Told Me to Look Into Obama's Alleged Kenyan Connection

He doesn't say that Asher told him Blumenthal suggested this avenue of investigation, but why would Asher tell him that? A reporter doesn't disclose to a much-more-junior reporter what confidential source is pushing a tip on him.

This is certainly a mile of confirmation for Asher's story -- many of the doubters, both the acknowledged Hillary supporters and the unacknowledged NeverTrump Hillary supporters-- knocked the story down by claiming "Well where's the reporter who looked into this, huh?"

First of all: McClatchy ran the story on their own former editor's statement. They would have said something if their investigation had uncovered the fact that no one at McClatchy ever looked into this.

So, the very fact the story ran at all strongly suggested -- more or less proved, for those of us not shaking pom-poms for Hillary -- that McClatchy had, in fact, verified this part of the story.

Second of all: Well, you were wrong, guys. Again.

But keep spinning for your gal.

Still vigorously spinning for Hillary: Politico, naturally, and even more naturally biased hack Blake Housnell, who plays stenographer for Blumenthal, and credulously relays Blumenthal's claim that he didn't push Birtherism, no, certainly not, he merely urged reporters to look into Obama's connections to Kenya.

What?

Housnell pushes this crap despite his own reporting disclosing the fact that two McClatchy reporters say they were well aware that Asher and Blumenthal were talking during this period -- and then Asher, just coincidentally, sent one on a wild goose chase to Kenya.

I guess, like Ahmad Khan Rahami's motive, we can just never know for sure.

Posted by: Ace at 01:00 PM

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1 Obama, Kerry and Clinton probably want us to talk about global warming.

Just a guess.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 20, 2016 01:01 PM (4ng05)

2 The amazing thing to me is that, for all the hate thrown at Trump and the narrative that he's a giant orange racist clown, he's been the only one to bring up ANY actual policies or policy issues in his campaign. Hilldog and the #Nevers haven't done anything but beat the same stupid, boring drum for months on end. It's one ginned-up story after another.

Posted by: Alex #11 at September 20, 2016 01:01 PM (EUMt/)

3 I hate every single democrat

Posted by: BacktoGA at September 20, 2016 01:01 PM (QUl0c)

4 One liar vetting another liar. Which one to believe?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 20, 2016 01:01 PM (mpXpK)

5
Those darn McClatchy Kids.

Always getting into trouble.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:02 PM (8XRCm)

6 Lying liars gotta lie!

Posted by: Killerdog at September 20, 2016 01:03 PM (sUhbg)

7 I'll just whisper this...

*Rumors circulating that the server guy who advertised for help deleting emails under subpoena, has struck a deal to testify.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 20, 2016 01:03 PM (4ng05)

8 A campaign staffed by "Sid Vicious" and "Rahmbo" would never, ever do such things.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at September 20, 2016 01:03 PM (WzlF7)

9

Im listening to a slowed-down version of "We're Not Gonna Take It" on the radio right now -- it is AWESOME!!!

Posted by: M Magoo's at September 20, 2016 01:03 PM (pf1xp)

10 So he went to Kenya and what did he find out about Obama?

Posted by: IC at September 20, 2016 01:03 PM (a0IVu)

11 It's one ginned-up story after another.
Posted by: Alex #11 at September 20, 2016 01:01 PM (EUMt/)

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Why.... I'm almost beginning to believe that's all they got.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:03 PM (8XRCm)

12 The amazing thing to me is that, for all the hate thrown at Trump and the narrative that he's a giant orange racist clown, he's been the only one to bring up ANY actual policies or policy issues in his campaign. Hilldog and the #Nevers haven't done anything but beat the same stupid, boring drum for months on end. It's one ginned-up story after another.

They have nothing else.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 20, 2016 01:03 PM (hTPJO)

13 This is why I am proud to be featured in Hillary's attack ad. Unlike Trump, she has credibility.

Posted by: Lindsay Graham at September 20, 2016 01:04 PM (kFnmp)

14 Force multipliers have been around before Obama.

Posted by: Clowns in da Woods at September 20, 2016 01:04 PM (afzAq)

15 *gestures hypnotically*

"These are not the smoking guns you are looking for"

*fall flat on face, shits pantsuit, expires*

Posted by: Hillary Wan Kenobi at September 20, 2016 01:04 PM (CS7jF)

16 *Rumors circulating that the server guy who advertised for help deleting emails under subpoena, has struck a deal to testify.

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**dons Keannu Reeve voice.

"Whoa".

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:05 PM (8XRCm)

17 Trump is not a birther. Should be repeated endlessly.
Only the Leftie base would buy this, but then, again you can't fix stupid.

Posted by: tubal at September 20, 2016 01:05 PM (d6TTt)

18 In matters like these, I prefer the Dennis Prager viewpoint: I don't mind that they're biased. I do mind they lie about it.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 20, 2016 01:05 PM (kFnmp)

19 I think the cutest one is the girl with the glasses.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 20, 2016 01:06 PM (VxHD9)

20 Monmouth Florida

Hillary 46
Trump 41

Posted by: Demon at September 20, 2016 01:06 PM (YrjNh)

21 >>Still vigorously spinning for Hillary: Politico, naturally, and even
more naturally biased hack Blake Housnell, who plays stenographer for
Blumenthal, and credulously relays Blumenthal's claim...

Politico also ran a super-sympathetic article about why Hillary is so closed off to the media and others: yeah, it's our fault for criticizing her in her early FLOTUS days.

Aaaaand this dripping-with-empathy profile was written by: Todd Purdam, husband of Dee Dee Myers.

Just one big DC media circle-jerk for Hillary.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 20, 2016 01:06 PM (NOIQH)

22 Next they will claim that Trump said 10 years ago a politician like Obama would be fetching him coffee.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 20, 2016 01:06 PM (ASJzx)

23 Top 30.

Posted by: Weasel at September 20, 2016 01:07 PM (Sfs6o)

24 Trump wasn't on the political scene in 2008.

So...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2016 01:07 PM (v9gSJ)

25 Trump is not a birther.

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Lets be honest. He was pushing it.

But it warms the cockles of my heart he's going to get a pass on it becasue....... Sid Blumenthal..

**chuckle**

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:07 PM (8XRCm)

26 I don't recall meeting this Sidney fellow that you keep talking about.

Posted by: Kim Jong Hill, In a Stylish Smock at September 20, 2016 01:07 PM (57K5j)

27 These have got to be some of the slimiest fucks ever to be involved in politics. Nixon's plumbers would we shocked and appalled.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:07 PM (0mRoj)

28 Trump is not a birther. Should be repeated endlessly.

Oh, come on. You don't remember 'I am hearing things from my investigators in Hawaii and any day now we'll have bombshell news'?

That said, 'Blumenthal started it' is rich, fertile soil.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:07 PM (mgbwf)

29 All in all, for the dem's this is still better than talking about the video of Hillary's seizure.

Even if it shows Hillary's minion is a corrupt racist, and she attempted to slime Barrack.

Her being a lying slimeball politician is still marginally better than her being a zombie. Her being a lying slimeball is already baked into the cake. Her being one of the walking undead, is actual news.

Posted by: simplemind at September 20, 2016 01:07 PM (xVRrG)

30 >> *Rumors circulating that the server guy who
>> advertised for help deleting emails under subpoena,
>> has struck a deal to testify.

Obama's pardon list just got a lot longer.

Posted by: JEM at September 20, 2016 01:08 PM (TppKb)

31 Trump is laying into Hillary Re: Deplorable and irredeemable. Keeps hitting that she has never, ever spoken that harshly about moslum terrorists--but had no problem calling fellow Americans such.

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 20, 2016 01:08 PM (e2Rx3)

32 Monmouth Florida

I thought Monmouth was in New Jersey.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:08 PM (mgbwf)

33 Trump is a Liberal, like Rudy G. ( see how I avoided misspelling his last name?) is a Liberal.
Loves America, loves the working class, understands how real shit works,and believes in personal liberty.
Yeah, I like that.

Posted by: tubal at September 20, 2016 01:08 PM (d6TTt)

34 Trump lies! Trump is racist! Racist and lies, I tell 'ya!

Posted by: Mainstream Propaganda Press at September 20, 2016 01:08 PM (/m8T6)

35 Driveby troll.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2016 01:08 PM (v9gSJ)

36 Monmouth Florida

I thought Monmouth was in New Jersey.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:08 PM (mgbwf)

Troll just talking shit no one cares about.

Posted by: tubal at September 20, 2016 01:09 PM (d6TTt)

37 There would be no birther bs w/o hillary's campaign. Where is the evidence that Trump drug this up prior to hillary's campaign (and when did campaign not equate to surrogate for the candidate?), as referenced in Politico in 4/08? Hillary birthed two things: chelsea and birtherism.

Posted by: ever at September 20, 2016 01:09 PM (kronK)

38 Monmouth Florida

I thought Monmouth was in New Jersey.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:08 PM (mgbwf)

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I thought Monmouth was in Illinois.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:09 PM (8XRCm)

39 I really don't think this buys Hillary much of anything, my guess is most voters do think Obama was hiding something there and just reminds them.

I also don't think the love affair with blacks and Obama is anywhere near what it once was, most have written him off as their standard of living has not been improved.

So the idea that because Trump along with Hillary played this angle seems like it's not going to do anything in November.

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2016 01:10 PM (4Y+8j)

40 New research topic: Is drive by troll activities inversely correlated to Hillary's poll numbers?

Posted by: IC at September 20, 2016 01:10 PM (a0IVu)

41 Freaking news is breaking all over the place.

Anyone or thing named 'Clinton' hardest hit.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 20, 2016 01:10 PM (4ng05)

42 Im listening to a slowed-down version of "We're Not Gonna Take It" on the radio right now -- it is AWESOME!!!
Posted by: M Magoo's at September 20, 2016 01:03 PM (pf1xp)
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I hope that's AFTER you listened to the Tenacious D video of the Star Trek theme that i found for you.

Posted by: bluebell at September 20, 2016 01:10 PM (xpSCc)

43 Driveby troll.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2016 01:08 PM (v9gSJ)

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I wish.

He's going to park and chat a bit, I reckon.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:10 PM (8XRCm)

44 Politico: the low rent version of Buzzfeed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2016 01:10 PM (rwI+c)

45

If you could trace back all the news all the time from multiple outlets you would discover that most news comes from a single source who whispered something into a reporter's ear.

In some cases you might find two different sources who have some common connection.

All the news is orchestrated. News repeaters don't do investigations and uncover the news. News repeaters take phone calls from unnamed inside sources who are not authorized to speak to the press, but do anyway, and have knowledge of the situation and confide in the one priviledged very import news repeater before the source hangs up the phone and calls to the next guy on the list.

Posted by: Woolfurd Pullover at September 20, 2016 01:10 PM (pPTJ4)

46 >>Keeps hitting that she has never, ever spoken that harshly about moslum
terrorists--but had no problem calling fellow Americans such.

That is a key point, and it applies to Obama as well.
After 7+ years of Obama regularly demonizing Americans we've had enough.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 20, 2016 01:10 PM (NOIQH)

47 Rumors circulating that the server guy who advertised for help deleting emails under subpoena, has struck a deal to testify.

You don't happen to have his address handy?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton - dressed for December on an September day at September 20, 2016 01:10 PM (ZFUt7)

48
Lets be honest. He was pushing it.

In 2011. After Hillary started it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2016 01:10 PM (v9gSJ)

49 Did Trump say recently that Obama was born in America?

Posted by: tubal at September 20, 2016 01:11 PM (d6TTt)

50 I hope that's AFTER you listened to the Tenacious D video of the Star Trek theme that i found for you.

Posted by: bluebell at September 20, 2016 01:10 PM (xpSCc)

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Thanks Bluebell!!!

I added it to my gym harcore workout playlist.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:11 PM (8XRCm)

51 Shut your dirty whore Monmouth.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2016 01:11 PM (v9gSJ)

52 Bluebell here's my reply, willowed on the last thread:

I'm going to frame this and hang it on the fridge for my family to see.

Did I just lose all those cool points I just won?

Posted by: bluebell at September 20, 2016 01:05 PM (xpSCc)

Hmm...depends on whether you use a really badass fridge magnet.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:09 PM (0mRoj)

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:12 PM (0mRoj)

53 Monmouth.

Trolls been pushing this all morning...

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 20, 2016 01:12 PM (O2RFr)

54 Just passing along the latest poll numbers. And I seem to recall someone saying Trump was cratering and that would be reflected in the latest polls. Looks like he was right. Again.

Posted by: Demon at September 20, 2016 01:12 PM (YrjNh)

55 I watched an episode of Johnny Carson's show from 1974 I got from YouTube yesterday. One of his guests was that sanctimonious, hypocritical asswipe journalist Jack Anderson. In 1974, the Nixon administration was imploding due to the Watergate cover-up, and Anderson spent a good 5 minutes piously proclaiming how an adversarial press was necessary for the health of this country. Mrs. Muse laughed as I kept screaming at the TV "yeah, that 'adversarial' bullshit only lasts until you get someone you like, you pious prick!" I was consumed with ungodly rage.

On the other hand, Carson's last guest was Susan Sarandon, who looked like she was about 22 years old, so there's that.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 20, 2016 01:12 PM (mqDWt)

56 >>In some cases you might find two different sources who have some common connection.

Yeah, their spouse, brother, and/or neighbor who just happens to be a DC political operative.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 20, 2016 01:12 PM (NOIQH)

57 Well, there's no denying he's a born Kensyan...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 20, 2016 01:13 PM (C9pBZ)

58 This "birther" issue blew up in their faces like it was one of my pipe bombs.

Posted by: Ahmad Khan Rahami at September 20, 2016 01:13 PM (iFgwk)

59 I added it to my gym harcore workout playlist.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:11 PM (8XRCm)
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Put it in the "Supple Leopard" folder.

Insomniac - don't think I've ever seen "badass" and "fridge magnet" used in the same sentence before. Congratulations.

Posted by: bluebell at September 20, 2016 01:13 PM (xpSCc)

60 Sounds like a narrative fight

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 20, 2016 01:13 PM (6BRKY)

61
Monmouth

Hare Lip!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 20, 2016 01:13 PM (IqV8l)

62 Yeah, their spouse, brother, and/or neighbor who just happens to be a DC political operative.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 20, 2016 01:12 PM (NOIQH)

It's pretty much one big incestuous orgy with DC pols, lobbyists, operatives and media.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:13 PM (0mRoj)

63 Keynesian.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 20, 2016 01:14 PM (iFgwk)

64 Former President George H.W. Bush is bucking his party's presidential nominee and plans to vote for Hillary Clinton in November, according to a member of another famous political family, the Kennedys.

Mask Status:

[ ] On
[x] Off

How does even a RINO squish like HW justify this in his own mind? I have NOTHING in common with these people.

Fuck all of 'em.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 20, 2016 01:14 PM (8ZskC)

65 Just passing along the latest poll numbers. And I seem to recall someone saying Trump was cratering and that would be reflected in the latest polls. Looks like he was right. Again.
Posted by: Demon

Because one state poll makes a trend.

And two days ago, Trump was beating Hillary by 5 points in New Mexico of all places.

Sounds more like Hillary is cratering.

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2016 01:14 PM (4Y+8j)

66 I thought Monmouths were extinct?

Posted by: c6dave at September 20, 2016 01:14 PM (6Pf5l)

67 Sounds like a narrative fight
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 20, 2016 01:13 PM (6BRKY)

You need to power through.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 20, 2016 01:14 PM (4ng05)

68 Insomniac - don't think I've ever seen "badass" and "fridge magnet" used in the same sentence before. Congratulations.

Posted by: bluebell at September 20, 2016 01:13 PM (xpSCc)

They do exist. I have a combination fridge magnet/bottle opener that looks like a pulse rifle from the movie "Aliens."

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:14 PM (0mRoj)

69 On the other hand, Carson's last guest was Susan Sarandon, who looked like she was about 22 years old, so there's that.

Cue bathtub scene from "Joe".

*sigh*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:15 PM (mgbwf)

70 20 Monmouth Florida

The hell is 'Monmouth Florida', an old folks retirement home?

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 20, 2016 01:15 PM (mqDWt)

71
Yes, I'm doing so poorly I have to send my trools out to work with cherrypicked lists of counties. Yeah, the state polls are a mess.

But the debate will put me back on top. Wait and see.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton - dressed for December on an September day at September 20, 2016 01:15 PM (ZFUt7)

72 Monmouth is in Wales.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 20, 2016 01:15 PM (KOBAq)

73 The Universal AOSHQ Comment:

*facepalm*

*types*

*deletes*

Posted by: deplorable_sock_rat_eez, now_with_miracle_ingredient_irredeemability_! at September 20, 2016 01:15 PM (Z8DIA)

74 "I thought Monmouth was in Illinois."

It is but it's a small town. Not much there but I think they have a Casey's. So there's that.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 20, 2016 01:15 PM (d76uN)

75 69,
And "The Hunger"...

Woof

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 20, 2016 01:15 PM (C9pBZ)

76 I thought Monmouths were extinct?
Posted by: c6dave at September 20, 2016 01:14 PM (6Pf5l)

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Nope.

They like to collapse bridges in small towns in Ohio.

The Monmouth Prophecies.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:16 PM (8XRCm)

77 How does even a RINO squish like HW justify this in his own mind? I have NOTHING in common with these people.

Fuck all of 'em.
Posted by: Cicero

Seriously, the Clintons were responsible for making him a failed President, but at least they didn't disrespect Khan's father.

If you're a prominent Republican that can't vote for Trump, fine, but have the class to keep to yourself about it.

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2016 01:16 PM (4Y+8j)

78 "Hillary Clinton holds a 5 point lead over Donald Trump in the crucial swing state of Florida. This is slightly less than the 9 point lead she held in a Monmouth University Poll of Sunshine State voters taken last month."

One could call losing half one's lead slightly less.

Once could do that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2016 01:16 PM (rwI+c)

79 In before Boulder terlit hobo calls Poppy Bush a commie again... Oh wait.

Told ya so.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 20, 2016 01:16 PM (IbBNa)

80 Monmouth is in Wales.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 20, 2016 01:15 PM (KOBAq)

Will no one save the Wales? Sadly, too late already for the Monmouths.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 20, 2016 01:16 PM (4ng05)

81 I tell harmless little fibs and serious journalists back me up on this.

Trump LIES! is racist

Posted by: Queen Cnut the elder at September 20, 2016 01:17 PM (GYPqZ)

82 I thought Monmouths were extinct?
Posted by: c6dave at September 20, 2016 01:14 PM (6Pf5l)

Correct. The Woolly Monmouths were hunted to extinction by predatory packs of ShitWeasels.

Posted by: tubal at September 20, 2016 01:17 PM (d6TTt)

83
Monmouth?

Never heard of it.

Is it some kind of fish?
A river by that name?

If I google it, does naked ass show up?

Posted by: Woolfurd Pullover at September 20, 2016 01:17 PM (pPTJ4)

84 Monmouth Florida

I thought Monmouth was in New Jersey.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:08 PM (mgbwf)

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I thought Monmouth was in Illinois.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:09 PM (8XRCm)

It's in Oregon

Posted by: Hillary Wan Kenobi at September 20, 2016 01:17 PM (CS7jF)

85 >> How does even a RINO squish like HW justify this
>> in his own mind? I have NOTHING in common with
>> these people.

I'm following the 48-hour rule on this one, I think.

Posted by: JEM at September 20, 2016 01:17 PM (TppKb)

86 If I had a hammer
I'd hammer on the old witch.
I'd hammer on her Depends,
until they leaked sand.

I'd hammer on that bitch.
I'd hammer on her press friends
and the lies from her and the MSM
all over this land.

Posted by: Zombie Pete Seeger at September 20, 2016 01:17 PM (cCxiu)

87 How does even a RINO squish like HW justify this in his own mind? I have NOTHING in common with these people.
============================
Because the division between Republican and Democrat was just public theatre all along.

The real division is between the uniparty which is bought and paid for, and everyone else who isn't in the uniparty or paying for its protection.

Posted by: simplemind at September 20, 2016 01:18 PM (C6xeQ)

88 Please to continue MSM in mentioning "Hillary" and "connections to" and "Birtherism", because that is what will get cemented in the minds of people, the "no connections" part getting dumped.

A story: It seems LBJ wanted to spread a rumor that his opponent was taking sexual liberties with a pig. A campaign adviser asked why because no one is going to believe it. That wasn't the point, said LBJ, I just want to hear him deny it.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Buy a Basket of Deplorables, Get 10 Irredeemables Free at the Outrage Outlet! at September 20, 2016 01:18 PM (hLRSq)

89 Cue bathtub scene from "Joe".

*sigh*
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:15 PM (mgbwf)

Or "Pretty Baby".

Posted by: tubal at September 20, 2016 01:18 PM (d6TTt)

90 I saw Woolly Monmouth open for Mastodon at the Altanta Arena in '12.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:18 PM (0mRoj)

91 I'm following the 48-hour rule on this one, I think.

Since it's reported by a Democrat, and worse, a Kennedy, I think it's safe to assume lie.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2016 01:18 PM (rwI+c)

92 HuffPo and Rolling Stone and no doubt every other Leftie chat room and blog and other opinion outlets are all still saying HRC has been vindicated; Syd says he didn't do it, and there's no evidence that he did.

And if a videotape existed of Syd sitting in Asher's office in 2007 saying exactly what Asher says Syd said, they still wouldn't.

Posted by: Bluesman at September 20, 2016 01:18 PM (6OALw)

93 They've never had anything except one ginned up story after another. They only have demagoguery. That's it. Obama subsists on it. Hillary too.

My kid has a "taunter" in his class, a little boy who appears to not yet know that he identifies as not heterosexual and runs on his toes. All he does is "taunt." Back in the day, someone would have fixed that. My kid is a better person than I am. He's just like the democrats.

Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 20, 2016 01:18 PM (09Ay7)

94 "Hillary Clinton holds a 5 point lead over Donald Trump in the crucial swing state of Florida. This is slightly less than the 9 point lead she held in a Monmouth University Poll of Sunshine State voters taken last month."

One could call losing half one's lead slightly less.

Bwahahaha.

Up yours, Hector.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2016 01:18 PM (v9gSJ)

95 OT:

Poor NFL. PFT is reporting that ratings for every one of the first seven prime time games are down from last year.

Posted by: joanie weston fan at September 20, 2016 01:19 PM (m/Gc2)

96 77,
One thing about the Bushes - being quiet isn't one of their strong points...
neither is civility

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 20, 2016 01:19 PM (C9pBZ)

97 Well, she took her glasses off. Still cute, tho.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 20, 2016 01:19 PM (VxHD9)

98 Oh well, at least I don't have to consign Victor Davis Hanson to the ash-heap of history along with the rest of NRO, and I am glad, I liked his books.

Posted by: deplorable_sock_rat_eez, now_with_miracle_ingredient_irredeemability_! at September 20, 2016 01:19 PM (Z8DIA)

99 It strikes me that Hillary could vomit green bile, while her head rotates backwards and she incants the name Pazuzu and the lick spittle media will still unanimously declare her to be the winner of the debates.

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 20, 2016 01:19 PM (s7hQ/)

100 In before Boulder terlit hobo calls Poppy Bush a commie again... Oh wait.
Told ya so.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 20, 2016 01:16 PM (IbBNa)

Heh. Poppy ain't no commie, he's an archtypical go-along-to-get-along charter member of the GOPe wing of the UniParty. Trump obviously confuses and frightens him. So he's more comfortable with Hillary.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 20, 2016 01:19 PM (mqDWt)

101 The real birther issue.
Obama has claimed he was born in Kenya to qualify for grants available at Occidental. Federal grants. He lied on a federal form. That is why those records are sealed.

Posted by: DanMan at September 20, 2016 01:19 PM (RusNE)

102 The last piece needed to make it all clear ...

Why did the Obama White House refuse to allow Hillary Clinton to hire Sidney Blumenthal ?

Did Obama Administration staffers (or Obama himself) know that Sidney Blumenthal was raising "racist" claims during the 2008 election ?

Posted by: undocumented illegal investigator at September 20, 2016 01:19 PM (e8kgV)

103 "unacknowledged NeverTrump Hillary supporters"

I don't know anyone in that group who believes Hillary on this, nor have I seen anyone in that group say that.

Not sure why they were included, yet again, in a story that has nothing to do with them.

Many of them would most likely find a way to vote for Trump with story after story coming out about Hillary, but instead every story includes a catcall to them, which just makes them feel like they've made the right decision.

Posted by: Reality Man at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (Ch0fq)

104 I don't get Birtherism. The SCOAMF set out to destroy American medical coverage, manhandle the nation's economy, aid and abet one invasion of Mexican and Central American thugs and a second invasion of Muslim terrorists, and degrade our nation's military. He has single-handedly set back race relations in this country a hundred years. He has assembled an Administration full of race-baiters, incompetents, cronies, rentseekers, and anti-American panderers.

In light of everything destructive toward this country the sonuvabich has done, going after him because he may have been born a Kenyan is an awful lot like going after Capone for tax fraud, and disregarding all the murders and the rackets.

The only difference between the two is that the strategy against Capone worked to some degree. It moved the headquarters of his criminal empire to the inside of a prison.

Posted by: Qoheleth at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (iIzG7)

105 Back in the day, someone would have fixed that. My kid is a better person than I am. He's just like the democrats.

----

There is something to said in favor of sandbox rules.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (8XRCm)

106
Clinton cash can buy a lot of gaslighting in polls. Just don't look at the raw numbers. You don't know how to interpret that information anyway.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton - dressed for December on an September day at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (ZFUt7)

107 Somehow I never thought of Florida as a swing state

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (6BRKY)

108 ABC's Martha Raddatz interviewed Pence a couple of days ago for the ABC Sunday Show and she kept pushing Birtherism, after Trump punked MSM last Friday, while Pence wanted to move on. It's a real insight into MSM thinking. Read Raddatz's comments below with a tone of nasty indignation. She also has a face made for radio:

MIKE PENCE: Well, and I -- I know there's news reports that -- traces Birther movement all the way back to Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2008. But --

MARTHA RADDATZ: You believe that -- Hillary Clinton started the Birther movement?

MIKE PENCE: I -- look. I -- look, I -- I'll let the facts speak for themselves.

MARTHA RADDATZ: Well -- no, I wanna talk about the facts.

MIKE PENCE: What I will tell you --

MARTHA RADDATZ: What's the truth of that?

MIKE PENCE: What I will tell you Martha, look, I -- as I travel across this country, I say this very sincerely, verily -- very respectfully to you. This is not what the American people are talking about. Donald Trump put this issue to an end yesterday in Washington D.C. He respectfully said --

MARTHA RADDATZ: Why did it take him so long to put it to an end?

MIKE PENCE: It's over.

MARTHA RADDATZ: It's not over.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (r1fLd)

109 7 I'll just whisper this...

*Rumors circulating that the server guy who advertised for help deleting emails under subpoena, has struck a deal to testify.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 20, 2016 01:03 PM (4ng05)

On which he will renege in fear of his life. (Who do you fear more, the Clinton crime syndicated or the Congressional GOP?)

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (RD7QR)

110 I saw Woolly Monmouth open for Mastodon at the Altanta Arena in '12.

You must be really old. That was year 12 wasn't it?

Posted by: Woolfurd Pullover at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (pPTJ4)

111 HuffPo writing HRC's campaign off. That's kinda harsh

Posted by: aint no ways tard at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (bsDXW)

112
Either way, the stray voltage of who brought birtherism up first has taken a lot of the hillary health problems off the front page.

I think its time to get back to the Ms. Shakey McRiverdance and the Potato Sack Throwers concert.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (ODxAs)

113 Many Bothans died to bring this polling data to us.

Posted by: Mon Mouthma at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (u0s1P)

114 We counted Hillary voters twice, because weighting and shit.

Posted by: The Merry Pollsters of Monmouth at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (8ZskC)

115 "Poor NFL. PFT is reporting that ratings for every one of the first seven prime time games are down from last year."

They should blame PFT since Mike Florio has been using that site to push lefty BS for years. Florio got his wish.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (OD2ni)

116

Lots of little hits that can be ignored.

We need a YUUUUGGGGEEEEE October Surprise.

A Pithing, if you will. Right in the brainstem. In public.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Deplorably Irredeemable at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (QX0Xt)

117 If it's true that the Bushes are voting for Hillary - my take is it is largely due to wounded egos from Jeb's primary debacle. He was supposed to waltz to the nomination and Trump played hard ball with their son/brother and that is not to be forgiven anytime soon.

Posted by: IC at September 20, 2016 01:21 PM (a0IVu)

118 I am approaching the point where I want to rummage around for the Necronomikon just to see if I can consign the whole Clinton Criminal Crony Party to Dis.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 20, 2016 01:21 PM (5VD/X)

119 Oh, and the bridge wasn't in Ohio. It was over the Ohio...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 20, 2016 01:21 PM (C9pBZ)

120 82 I thought Monmouths were extinct?
Posted by: c6dave at September 20, 2016 01:14 PM (6Pf5l)

Correct. The Woolly Monmouths were hunted to extinction by predatory packs of ShitWeasels.
Posted by: tubal
____________

Liars. The Wooly Monmouths died out because of global warming.

Posted by: Low Information President at September 20, 2016 01:21 PM (57K5j)

121 which just makes them feel like they've made the right decision.

Of course, because the election is about them and their bank account.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2016 01:21 PM (rwI+c)

122 Re: Susan Sarandon's Tits: Ask, and ye shall receive.

http://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/name.php/425

NSFW

Posted by: Hillary Wan Kenobi at September 20, 2016 01:21 PM (CS7jF)

123 >> One thing about the Bushes - being quiet isn't one
>> of their strong points... neither is civility

That's not exactly true. Bush 41 has largely stayed out of the public eye aside from jumping out of planes, and likewise Bush 43 has had comparatively little to say about the JEF.

Watch what we hear from Obama in a year or two.

Posted by: JEM at September 20, 2016 01:21 PM (TppKb)

124 The email in 2007 was considered "racist" so we know Team Clinton was able to recognize "racist" stuff, but it seems Sidney Blumenthal still did push "racist" memes with the press.

Why did the CLINTON FOUNDATION hire this "racist" ?

Posted by: undocumented illegal investigator at September 20, 2016 01:21 PM (e8kgV)

125 89 Cue bathtub scene from "Joe".

*sigh*
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:15 PM (mgbwf)

Or "Pretty Baby".
Posted by: tubal at September 20, 2016 01:18 PM (d6TTt)

Or "Unfaithful." Granted, that wasn't Susan Sarandon, but c'mon!

Posted by: josephistan at September 20, 2016 01:21 PM (7HtZB)

126 I knew this at the time, that it came out of the Hillary campaign. That's not even news. Does <i>everyone</i> have the memory and attention span of a gnat?

Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 20, 2016 01:22 PM (09Ay7)

127 1988 - Al Gore's campaign started the Willie Horton meme against Dukakis that George #41 used in a famous tv ad.

Just throwing that little gem into the mix.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at September 20, 2016 01:22 PM (CbGSW)

128 This is all lies. Sid Blumenthal is a man of honor and integrity. That Asher guy is deplorable and not one of us.

Posted by: Rick Wilson, GOP Consultant at September 20, 2016 01:22 PM (OD2ni)

129 The "donor" said we couldn't cash the check until we got the poll "just right."

Posted by: Monmouth at September 20, 2016 01:22 PM (bsDXW)

130 On the other hand, Carson's last guest was Susan Sarandon, who looked like she was about 22 years old, so there's that.
Posted by: OregonMuse

She has unusual eyes. To me, they make her look older than she was, when she was younger, and younger than she is, now that she's older. Timeless eyes.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 20, 2016 01:22 PM (iFgwk)

131 'The vote President Bush will cast as a private citizen in some 50 days will be just that: a private vote cast in some 50 days,' McGrath told CNN. 'He is not commenting on the presidential race in the interim.'

Lying bitch gotta lie

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 20, 2016 01:22 PM (ATVNj)

132 The real birther issue.
Obama has claimed he was born in Kenya to qualify for grants available at Occidental. Federal grants. He lied on a federal form. That is why those records are sealed.
==============================

Technical term for that is perjury. Its a felony and oh yeah can disqual you from holding elected office. See? Birth has nada to do with it, but he's still unqualified. QED.

Posted by: simplemind at September 20, 2016 01:23 PM (C6xeQ)

133 Or "Pretty Baby".

Oregon Muse was watching Carson from 1974. Pretty Baby and The Hunger were after that. As was the sinktop washing scene in Atlantic City.

Not that there's anything wrong with the other references, I was just being period-appropriate.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:23 PM (mgbwf)

134 It's in Oregon
Posted by: Hillary Wan Kenobi at September 20, 2016 01:17 PM (CS7jF)

Independence for Monmouth!

When do we want it? NOW!

Posted by: Kindltot at September 20, 2016 01:23 PM (KOBAq)

135 Goodbye, beautiful college girl.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 20, 2016 01:23 PM (VxHD9)

136 MARTHA RADDATZ: Why did it take him so long to put it to an end?

MIKE PENCE: It's over.

MARTHA RADDATZ: It's not over.

____

The "BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE GOT!!!!!" is implied.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:23 PM (8XRCm)

137 How is Obama being born in Kenya racist? Was his publicist racist? I don't even get how the accusation, regardless of where it came from, is racist. That only suggests to me that their demagogic vocabulary is getting narrow.

Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 20, 2016 01:23 PM (09Ay7)

138 Oh, and the bridge wasn't in Ohio. It was over the Ohio...

Well, once it collapsed, it was in the Ohio.

Posted by: Woolfurd Pullover at September 20, 2016 01:24 PM (pPTJ4)

139

Not yet, bluebell.

Posted by: M Magoo's at September 20, 2016 01:24 PM (pf1xp)

140 Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 20, 2016 01:14 PM (8ZskC)

Considering the ill health HW is in, I take this all with a grain of salt, expecting another Dem to be spreading F.U.D. around.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Buy a Basket of Deplorables, Get 10 Irredeemables Free at the Outrage Outlet! at September 20, 2016 01:24 PM (hLRSq)

141 It was mostly Rubio attacking Jeb and vice versa. I saw the ads on TV. Trump wasn't being taken seriously at the time.

Jeb' s issue is with the Republican base who didn't trust either of those clowns.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 20, 2016 01:24 PM (IbBNa)

142 h, and the bridge wasn't in Ohio. It was over the Ohio...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 20, 2016 01:21 PM (C9pBZ)

-----

Yup I stand corrected. Point something in Virginia.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:24 PM (8XRCm)

143 Wait, are you talking the Peter Boyle "Joe" film?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 20, 2016 01:24 PM (VxHD9)

144 20
Monmouth Florida

Hillary 46

Trump 41

Posted by: Demon at September 20, 2016 01:06 PM (YrjNh)

No link? No internals? We need a new rule at AOS

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 20, 2016 01:25 PM (mpXpK)

145 How does even a RINO squish like HW justify this in his own mind? I have NOTHING in common with these people.

Fuck all of 'em.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 20, 2016 01:14 PM (8ZskC)

He's a 92 year old wheelchair bound ex president whom the Democrats are using. Just like they wheeled Robert Byrd into the Senate after wiping drool off his chin, and then held a pen for him to sign bills, etc. that he didn't have a clue or a cognizant thought as to what they were about.

The Dems don't have a shred of respect for anyone as long as they might be useful to their purpose.

You realize if you held a photo up of George HW Bush to the average 25 year old, they would have no idea who he is. Or that he is still alive.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 20, 2016 01:25 PM (ntZAP)

146 I still remember the scene in in the movie 2001, when the monkeys discovered the big black Monmouth.

Posted by: johnd01 at September 20, 2016 01:25 PM (ukNFU)

147 Independence for Monmouth!

----

Independence is in Missouri.

Birthplace of Harry S Truman.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:25 PM (8XRCm)

148 @145. That sums it up perfectly.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 20, 2016 01:26 PM (VxHD9)

149 You must be really old. That was year 12 wasn't it?
Posted by: Woolfurd Pullover at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (pPTJ4)

It's true. I only just learned how to walk fully upright.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:26 PM (0mRoj)

150 No link? No internals? We need a new rule at AOS

http://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_FL_092016/

Doing the job Average Joe won't do.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2016 01:27 PM (rwI+c)

151 I still remember the scene in in the movie 2001, when the monkeys discovered the big black Monmouth.

Not "monkeys." We were APES!!!

Asshole.

Posted by: The Monkeys from 2001 at September 20, 2016 01:27 PM (8ZskC)

152 Someone else might trust what a chaotic evil entity from the Abyss has to say without supporting evidence, but I won't

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 20, 2016 01:27 PM (IbBNa)

153 "Hillary Clinton holds a 5 point lead over Donald Trump in the crucial swing state of Florida. This is slightly less than the 9 point lead she held in a Monmouth University Poll of Sunshine State voters taken last month."

There are polls, and there are polls...

This particular poll is a 401 person poll, with a margin of error of plus or minus 5 points.

Plus or minus 5 points. That's 10 points total that the poll can be off. Why even bother having a poll if you're not going to get more accurate than that?

Posted by: jwest at September 20, 2016 01:27 PM (Zs4uk)

154 >>>So he went to Kenya and what did he find out about Obama?

That the JEF is an anti-American crypto-marxist Islamophile racist dissembler.

So in other words, nothing new.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 20, 2016 01:27 PM (fgOnp)

155 He did the mash
He did the Monmouth mash

Posted by: JEM at September 20, 2016 01:27 PM (TppKb)

156 I know the Birther issue predates Trump because all of us here kept saying 'Why is that idiot bringing that shit up again???'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2016 01:27 PM (v9gSJ)

157 OT - Steve Harvey sues NASCAR because racism.
http://tinyurl.com/zyjkdlf

I love the totally 100% non-biased headline at MSN Sports.

"How NASCAR Shot Down Steve Harvey and Earned a Racial Discrimination Lawsuit"

Posted by: josephistan at September 20, 2016 01:27 PM (7HtZB)

158 In light of everything destructive toward this country the sonuvabich has done, going after him because he may have been born a Kenyan is an awful lot like going after Capone for tax fraud, and disregarding all the murders and the rackets.

The only difference between the two is that the strategy against Capone worked to some degree. It moved the headquarters of his criminal empire to the inside of a prison.
Posted by: Qoheleth

Two possibilities for this,

1)
Obama knew it was something Republicans would look stupid going after so he played with it enough to get people upset and keep it alive. So the fault lies with Obama for not killing this issue.

or

2)
There was something there that he wanted to hide.

I personally believe in the 2nd scenario because if a politician can easily clear up an alleged scandal that may hurt them with voters, they won't risk keeping it alive.

But obviously at this point it's just a distraction and we should move on. Trump Pence should simply just repeat that Hillary brought it up first in 2008.

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2016 01:27 PM (4Y+8j)

159 Somehow I never thought of Florida as a swing state

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (6BRKY

More of a rocking chair sort of place.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Buy a Basket of Deplorables, Get 10 Irredeemables Free at the Outrage Outlet! at September 20, 2016 01:28 PM (hLRSq)

160 Missed the prior thread, but there was something it triggered in me I think I need to get off my chest:

My father told the other coaches he thought they should give me a shot at shortstop, because I had a strong arm, and could field the ball cleanly. He later RECANTED when it was discovered I had trouble going to my left, and transferring the ball from the glove to my throwing hand.

I mean, sometimes a father knows best, but that doesn't mean it doesn't still hurt.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2016 01:28 PM (TOk1P)

161 The bridge collapsed into the Ohio River because of the weight of the Intercontinental Railroad.

Posted by: Low Information President at September 20, 2016 01:28 PM (57K5j)

162 the Monmouth Monolith is a well-documented and historical icon of renown

it's ten miles east of A Leppo

Posted by: the Johnson at September 20, 2016 01:28 PM (/542q)

163 Did Steve Harvey do something before he was on Family Feud? Was he a stand up comic or something?

I mean, he's no Sindbad.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2016 01:29 PM (rwI+c)

164 Speaking of Pence, I heard him on the radio the other day and he comes across really well - in terms of his cadence, intonation and verbiage. Very calm and composed.

Posted by: IC at September 20, 2016 01:29 PM (a0IVu)

165 Whoa, Obama sending fundraising letters to Hillary supporters repeating what he said at the CBC event: "...I'll see it as a personal insult to my legacy and the work we've done together if we fail to step up and make sure Hillary takes my place in January."

It's all about MEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Also, "my place"? Kinda sounds like referring to one of the MA Senate seats as the "Kennedy seat." You don't own that place, bro.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 20, 2016 01:29 PM (NOIQH)

166 the Monmouth Monolith is a well-documented and historical icon of renown
it's ten miles east of A Leppo
And four miles south of the Love Shack baby!

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 20, 2016 01:29 PM (5VD/X)

167 This is, yet again, Trump learning something from the Democrats that other Republicans should have learned decades ago: when Democrats accuse you of something, it's probably partly because they are trying to blame you for their own sins. Which means it shouldn't be hard to turn the tables on them, and hang around their necks the evil they're trying to hang on you.

This has been a staple of blogitry for years now: the left accuses their opponents of what the left is already doing. But it has remained somehow uncouth to call them on it.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 20, 2016 01:30 PM (2lndx)

168 So the Monmouth poll shows a shift of +5 for Trump in FL.

Which is in line with the +7 shift of LAT and other
polls.

The trend is the key.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2016 01:30 PM (v9gSJ)

169 I hate every single democrat
Posted by: BacktoGA

I'm mostly pissed at the ones inter-married with the press.

Posted by: DaveA at September 20, 2016 01:30 PM (8J/Te)

170 It was mostly Rubio attacking Jeb and vice versa. I saw the ads on TV. Trump wasn't being taken seriously at the time.

Jeb' s issue is with the Republican base who didn't trust either of those clowns.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo

Jeb was never really in contention, it was delusion for him to think anyone "cost" him the nomination.

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2016 01:30 PM (4Y+8j)

171 I think his birth certificate lists his race as "caucasian." That's why he hid it.

Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 20, 2016 01:30 PM (09Ay7)

172
There are polls, and there are polls...

This particular poll is a 401 person poll, with a margin of error of plus or minus 5 points.

Plus or minus 5 points. That's 10 points total that the poll can be off. Why even bother having a poll if you're not going to get more accurate than that?
=====================

New Headline

Monmouth Poll Shows Trump has closed Gap in Florida now within Margin of Error

Posted by: simplemind at September 20, 2016 01:30 PM (C6xeQ)

173 The Monmouth University Polling Institute surveyed 400 likely voters on landlines and cell phones from Sept. 16 to 19. The poll's margin of error is plus or minus 5 percentage points.

http://fw.to/sOeoflE

Posted by: spypeach at September 20, 2016 01:30 PM (nyYhO)

174 163 Did Steve Harvey do something before he was on Family Feud? Was he a stand up comic or something?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2016 01:29 PM (rwI+c)

He had famous parents - Richard Pryor & Mr. Potato Head

Posted by: josephistan at September 20, 2016 01:30 PM (7HtZB)

175 Heh.
And it's Point Pleasant, WV...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 20, 2016 01:30 PM (C9pBZ)

176 Also, "my place"? Kinda sounds like referring to one of the MA Senate seats as the "Kennedy seat." You don't own that place, bro.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 20, 2016 01:29 PM (NOIQH)

Goes with "my military." A phrase that made my blood boil.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 20, 2016 01:30 PM (SRKgf)

177 171 I think his birth certificate lists his race as "caucasian." That's why he hid it.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 20, 2016 01:30 PM (09Ay7)

So he started off with a lie. The Red version of Original Sin.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 20, 2016 01:31 PM (SRKgf)

178 Whoa, dood,.....my nic has changed........

Posted by: lindafell- deplorable, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic redneck at September 20, 2016 01:31 PM (JNDQi)

179 175 Heh.
And it's Point Pleasant, WV...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 20, 2016 01:30 PM (C9pBZ)

We talking Mothman?

Posted by: josephistan at September 20, 2016 01:31 PM (7HtZB)

180

Monmouth Florida - his arms wide.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 20, 2016 01:31 PM (kdS6q)

181 Hillary addicted Trump to brtherism. She gave him that first hit so its all her fault.

Posted by: him at September 20, 2016 01:32 PM (epLyw)

182
163 Did Steve Harvey do something before he was on Family Feud? Was he a stand up comic or something?

I mean, he's no Sindbad.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2016 01:29 PM (rwI+c)

Yeah. He's a comedian and actor.

Posted by: buzzion at September 20, 2016 01:32 PM (bMG0w)

183 Plus or minus 5 points. That's 10 points total that
the poll can be off. Why even bother having a poll if you're not going
to get more accurate than that?

Posted by: jwest

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Universities/Colleges do these polls as a class project to train students on how to do a polling operation/study.

It's cross-curriculum, so polisci, stats, and marketing classes all get involved in some way. Mainly polisci though.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at September 20, 2016 01:32 PM (CbGSW)

184 Si.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 20, 2016 01:32 PM (C9pBZ)

185 One thing about the Bushes - being quiet isn't one of their strong points...
neither is civility
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 20, 2016 01:19 PM (C9pBZ)

100% disagree with this.

Good lord, George W' civility and refusal to "sully the office of president" and fight back against the daily accusation of the left helped win the WH for Obama.
Of all the things one could accuse him of, not being civil is about as far from reality as it gets.

He has been virtually underground during the entire Obama presidency. He has steadfastly refused to comment on Obama's two terms, stating that he knew what it was like to be criticized as president and would not be engaging in it.

His mother has said more about Obama than GW has, in that she doesn't like the criticism he was receiving from Obama even after Obama won the WH.

It has been rare to even find an article about what Bush was doing currently during the last 8 years. Opening his presidential library and attending funerals of politicians, etc. is about it.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 20, 2016 01:32 PM (ntZAP)

186 So the Monmouth poll shows a shift of +5 for Trump in FL.

Which is in line with the +7 shift of LAT and other
polls.

The trend is the key.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Exactly, Trump surging 5 points from the previous, same poll is the headline.

Other recent Florida polls have put Trump on top.

And this was before two high profile Islamic terror attacks once again on American soil.

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2016 01:32 PM (4Y+8j)

187 133 Or "Pretty Baby".

Oregon Muse was watching Carson from 1974. Pretty Baby and The Hunger were after that. As was the sinktop washing scene in Atlantic City.
Not that there's anything wrong with the other references, I was just being period-appropriate.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:23 PM (mgbwf)

Right. The only movies mentioned were 'Joe' and the one she was currently filming, 'The Great Waldo Pepper'.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 20, 2016 01:32 PM (mqDWt)

188 the Monmouth Monolith is a well-documented and historical icon of renown
it's ten miles east of A Leppo

And four miles south of the Love Shack baby!

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 20, 2016 01:29 PM (5VD/X)

Which is just up the road from the Sugar Shack.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 20, 2016 01:33 PM (X6fMO)

189 OT - Steve Harvey sues NASCAR because racism.
http://tinyurl.com/zyjkdlf

BREAKING: Steve Harvey has withdrawn the lawsuit because he actually meant to sue the Indy Racing League.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 20, 2016 01:33 PM (8ZskC)

190 Jay Guevera, are you referring to Bill Clinton's first inauguration when one Clinton crony said something to the effect of 'their now our helicopters' or something to that effect?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 20, 2016 01:33 PM (5VD/X)

191 If the left's last great hope is the Brither Crap, then I think we're in pretty good shape as long as The Donald come's thru MOnday Night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 20, 2016 01:33 PM (zp+j1)

192 Jeb was never really in contention

Jeb was running on his family name, and name recognition at a time when the Bush family name had been discredited and neutered by the democrats.

Kinda like the son of Joe McCarthy running on a law and order platform, and railing against the commie infiltration of the sixties protest marches.

Posted by: Woolfurd Pullover at September 20, 2016 01:33 PM (pPTJ4)

193 151 "Not "monkeys." We were APES!!!"

Not us.

Posted by: The MonkEEs at September 20, 2016 01:34 PM (h3IJ6)

194 Hillary craters from +9 to +5 in 4 weeks in Florida.

Libs celebrate.

Posted by: Meremortal, second responder at September 20, 2016 01:34 PM (3myMJ)

195 184 - One of the creepiest books I've ever read.

Posted by: josephistan at September 20, 2016 01:34 PM (7HtZB)

196 Uh.....I believe those were Monarchs not Monmouths.

Posted by: c6dave at September 20, 2016 01:34 PM (6Pf5l)

197 My father told the other coaches he thought they should give me a shot at shortstop, because I had a strong arm, and could field the ball cleanly. He later RECANTED when it was discovered I had trouble going to my left, and transferring the ball from the glove to my throwing hand.

I mean, sometimes a father knows best, but that doesn't mean it doesn't still hurt.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2016 01:28 PM (TOk1P)

Every fielder has a weakness (going left, going right, weak arm, whatever), just as every hitter has a hole in his swing. It's just something that needs work.

In your case, besides implying work on going left, you'd just needed to cheat left a little bit until you improved. If you have a strong arm, you can still go into the hole and throw someone out.

So your dad was off base.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (SRKgf)

198 2)
There was something there that he wanted to hide.
======
It was a distraction designed to prevent any further digging.

#1 - get people worked up over the birth certificate
#2 - release birth certificate to much fanfare and disappointment
#3 - any further questions about his past--specifically, his medical records and his college transcripts--are deemed "birther" and racist.

And it has worked because of the media.

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (e2Rx3)

199 189 OT - Steve Harvey sues NASCAR because racism.
http://tinyurl.com/zyjkdlf

BREAKING: Steve Harvey has withdrawn the lawsuit because he actually meant to sue the Indy Racing League.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 20, 2016 01:33 PM (8ZskC)

Literally LOL!

Posted by: josephistan at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (7HtZB)

200 Wait, are you talking the Peter Boyle "Joe" film?

Yes.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (mgbwf)

201 Martha Raddatz looks like Willem Dafoe in drag.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (iFgwk)

202 Trend is the key. LA times tracking trend is now strong Hillary. NBC Survey Monkey trend is to Hillary.

And Monmouth pollster just tweeted that their Iowa and Nevada polls are bad for Trump, as well.

We're in Clinton/Dole territory now.

Posted by: Demon at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (YrjNh)

203 Yeah. He's a comedian and actor.

Posted by: buzzion at September 20, 2016 01:32 PM (bMG0w)

In the same way I am a lover and a fighter. Which is to say, just because they pay you to do it doesn't mean you're necessarily any good at it.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (TOk1P)

204 Hillary craters from +9 to +5 in 4 weeks in Florida.

Get those people back in here. TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!!!!!

Posted by: Hector, Purveyor of Handcrafted Blow-Jobs at the Finest Truck Stops at September 20, 2016 01:36 PM (8ZskC)

205 Can no one rid us of this pesky Troll?

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 20, 2016 01:36 PM (O2RFr)

206 There's an unpublished HP Lovecraft manuscript with the title 'The Madness Over Monmouth'. I understand it's pretty creepy.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 20, 2016 01:36 PM (mqDWt)

207
I downloaded the pdf file for the Monmouth poll and it crashed my phone.

Anyway. 400 people. Telephone. Margin of error 5%.

Junk. Junk. Junk.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:36 PM (ZFUt7)

208 We're in Clinton/Dole territory now.

Posted by: Demon at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (YrjNh)

Who's "we," white man?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 20, 2016 01:37 PM (X6fMO)

209 *conjures up Maxwell's Demon*

"So what is that imp talking about with these 'polls'?"

"He's full of it, projecting his own defeat. As usual."

*dismisses Maxwell's Demon*

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 20, 2016 01:37 PM (5VD/X)

210 Posted by: Demon at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (YrjNh)

I generally try to avoid advice from Demons.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke, redeemed and redeemable at September 20, 2016 01:37 PM (EnGQE)

211 There's an unpublished HP Lovecraft manuscript with the title 'The Madness Over Monmouth'. I understand it's pretty creepy.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 20, 2016 01:36 PM (mqDWt)

I give it a B+ for alliteration.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 20, 2016 01:37 PM (8ZskC)

212 That Monmuoth poll also has Clinton beating Trump on who you "trust more to handle illegal immigration."

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 20, 2016 01:38 PM (Y7bZV)

213 Nixon's plumbers would we shocked and appalled.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:07 PM (0mRoj)

For the most part, theWatergate plumbers considered themselves patriots, E. Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Liddy in particular, so they had that going for them. Hunt, especially, is a tragic, complex, deeply flawedfigure.

Hillary's henchmen--Sid 'Vicious' Blumenthal comes immediately to mind--are just fixers and toadies, errand boys fora ruthless political machine.There's no there there, nothing to them at all.

Posted by: troyriser at September 20, 2016 01:38 PM (wW4M0)

214 190 Jay Guevera, are you referring to Bill Clinton's first inauguration when one Clinton crony said something to the effect of 'their now our helicopters' or something to that effect?
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 20, 2016 01:33 PM (5VD/X)

No, I was thinking of Obongo's statement regarding "my military."

http://tinyurl.com/h3krcq2

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 20, 2016 01:38 PM (SRKgf)

215 Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2016 01:29 PM (rwI+c)

He's been all over, started as a comic but wrote a successful book "Act Like A Woman, Think Like A Man" for single females. He's got his toes in a lot of things and generally has positive things to say. He's always quoting scripture on twitters and motivational stuff, and actually stays completely non-political with it. Having her on his show is her answer to Trump being on Oz (since she can't come up with a damn original thought to save her campaign). I don't blame him for thinking this will help his ratings/bank account.

Posted by: Alex #11 at September 20, 2016 01:38 PM (EUMt/)

216 I reiterate, they should have sent my husband, Joe Wilson. He would have found something...or nothing... sorry, don't recall which.

Posted by: Valerie Plame, Super-secret covert spy at September 20, 2016 01:38 PM (9mTYi)

217

Poles

like from Poland?

Posted by: Woolfurd Pullover at September 20, 2016 01:38 PM (pPTJ4)

218 They are desperate and will throw everything including the kitchen sink at Trump especially this week in the run up to the debate.

They know they have an awful candidate with multiple issues that they so far haven't been able to make go away.

Interesting question for Hillary supporters, as reported the war criminals Bush I and Bush II support your candidate. Do you forgive them now for their crimes against humanity?

Posted by: Cheri at September 20, 2016 01:38 PM (oiNtH)

219 Lol junk like the 2012 state polls were junk!

You'll learn your lesson again if you've forgotten it already.

Posted by: Demon at September 20, 2016 01:38 PM (YrjNh)

220 We're in Clinton/Dole territory now.
Posted by: Demon

No, you're in denial territory right now.

Hillary has collapsed in polling across the board among multiple pollsters in multiple states.

Yesterday Trump was leading by 7 points according to the right-wing rag, the Los Angeles Times.

but keep trying

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2016 01:38 PM (P0Mm9)

221
Jay Guevera, are you referring to Bill Clinton's first inauguration when one Clinton crony said something to the effect of 'their now our helicopters' or something to that effect?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Ron Silver : They're our jets now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 20, 2016 01:38 PM (l5/MU)

222 This one went over like a lead balloon, so they're moving on to the next Trump is evil thing. I think the next one is "Trump abuses his charity for personal stuff!"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 20, 2016 01:39 PM (39g3+)

223
Junk. Junk. Junk.

++++

Monmouth is kinda known for that

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 20, 2016 01:39 PM (6BRKY)

224 Interesting question for Hillary supporters, as reported the war criminals Bush I and Bush II support your candidate. Do you forgive them now for their crimes against humanity?

It may support a reduction in punishment.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016: Brain Damaged? Yes, But Not Too Brain Damaged To Still Be A Scheming, Lying Witch at September 20, 2016 01:39 PM (8ZskC)

225 So your dad was off base.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (SRKgf)

Ok, I made up the dad part, because I was trying to be funny. Actually it was a d*ck coach, who never really gave me the chance to earn the position.

Why?

You know why. His son. Who happened to be my best friend. Still, when I got my shot, his dad gave me ONE game. I made ONE bad throw... on a ball that Ozzie Smith might not have reached, up the middle.

The jerk called me "dreamboat." Really.

No... I'm not still bitter about it, why do you ask.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2016 01:40 PM (TOk1P)

226 Real time breaking news:

Clinton's campaign collapsing in Florida, as we speak.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 20, 2016 01:40 PM (4ng05)

227 The jerk called me "dreamboat." Really.

-----

Shit.

That was YOU??

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:40 PM (8XRCm)

228 "We're in Clinton/Dole territory now."

You wish, respectfully. Willowed post on point:

New NBC poll has Hillary up 5%, while latest LA Times poll has Trump up 5%.

NBC purports to have switched to Likely Voters, but if you dig you can see the Fix. NBC ignores its own survey and assumes that 2016 turnout patterns will mirror that of 2012:

"Given historical patterns and the relative stability of presidential voting, our working assumption is that the electorate in 2016 is more likely than not to resemble the 2012 electorate; we trust the stable patterns in the data more than self-reported responses."

As I've been harping, the one near certainty is that 2016 turnout won't mirror 2012.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 20, 2016 01:40 PM (r1fLd)

229 Yesterday Trump was leading by 7 points according to the right-wing rag, the Los Angeles Times.�

Yeah but Hillary moved from behind by 6.7 to behind by 6.5. That's awesome momentum. By March she'll have closed the gap.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:41 PM (ZFUt7)

230 222 This one went over like a lead balloon, so they're moving on to the next Trump is evil thing. I think the next one is "Trump abuses his charity for personal stuff!"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 20, 2016 01:39 PM (39g3+)

TRUMP PUNCHED A BABY IN THE DICK!

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 20, 2016 01:41 PM (mqDWt)

231 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 20, 2016 01:39 PM (39g3+)

Yeah I thought they'd be hammering skittles more, but it didn't take long to find the feminist M&M meme that said the same thing. We might be spinning into "thousand paper cuts" mode. They know damn well they have no issues, and really have nothing substantive against him, so they'll throw out 10 negative nothing stories a day rather than one big one in an attempt to sour the public's subconscious (or maybe conscious) image of Trump.

Posted by: Alex #11 at September 20, 2016 01:41 PM (EUMt/)

232 Dreamburt LOL

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 20, 2016 01:42 PM (6BRKY)

233 202 Trend is the key. LA times tracking trend is now strong Hillary.

Posted by: Demon at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (YrjNh)

You mean this one?

"Donald Trump's lead widens in USC/LA Times tracking poll ..."

http://tinyurl.com/hb9hqz9

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 20, 2016 01:42 PM (SRKgf)

234 221
Jay Guevera, are you referring to Bill Clinton's first inauguration when one Clinton crony said something to the effect of 'their now our helicopters' or something to that effect?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Ron Silver : They're our jets now.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 20, 2016 01:38 PM (l5/MU)

At least he came around after 9/11, when we had jets that weren't ours in the sky.

Posted by: josephistan at September 20, 2016 01:42 PM (7HtZB)

235 New poll has Trump tied with Hillary in Maine.
MPRC

Clinton 37
Trump 37

Maine went Obama by 15 points in 2012.

Preference cascade?

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2016 01:42 PM (uOueL)

236 "Ron Silver : They're our jets now."

To his credit, Ron came to his senses and actively campaigned for Giuliani over Dinkins a year later, and then fully came around after 9/11. RIP.

Posted by: Benji Carver at September 20, 2016 01:42 PM (OD2ni)

237 Yesterday Trump was leading by 7 points according to the right-wing rag, the Los Angeles Times.

========
LOL.

Troll says that trendline is for Hillary.

The one where she goes from +3, to +1, to -1, to -2, to -5, to -7.

That is trending Hillary alright.

She keeps trending like that and even MN won't vote for her.

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 20, 2016 01:42 PM (e2Rx3)

238 Ron Silver : They're our jets now.>>>

Tell Me about it.

Posted by: Ron Brown at September 20, 2016 01:42 PM (XtAzU)

239 Trend is the key. LA times tracking trend is now strong Hillary.

Posted by: Demon at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (YrjNh)

You mean this one?

"Donald Trump's lead widens in USC/LA Times tracking poll ..."

http://tinyurl.com/hb9hqz9
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 20, 2016 01:42 PM (SRKgf)

------

Just how many sideways pineapples WILL fit in Hector's ass.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:43 PM (8XRCm)

240 OT - Steve Harvey sues NASCAR because racism.
-----------

Fcuk you, asshole.

Posted by: Wendell Scott, NASCAR Hall of Fame member at September 20, 2016 01:43 PM (9mTYi)

241 Demon is right. As of today I'm jumping on the Hillary bandwagon. I'd hate to end up on the losing side.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 20, 2016 01:43 PM (8ZskC)

242 The Monmouth poll is junk because it was a class project for students to learn how to do polling.

They didn't get more than 400 people because $$. It's more about PR for Monmouth and course credit for the students than accuracy.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at September 20, 2016 01:43 PM (CbGSW)

243 I generally try to avoid advice from Demons.

*************

The prog trolls imagine themselves Wormwood and like it.

Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 20, 2016 01:43 PM (09Ay7)

244 we trust the stable patterns in the data more than self-reported responses."

++++++++++++++++++++++
Hillarious.

Rephrased, we don't actually trust the answers of the people we polled so we're going with a historical data model, which showed the democratic candidate winning. Viola! The democratic candidate is winning.

Posted by: simplemind at September 20, 2016 01:43 PM (C6xeQ)

245 Everyone be pollin' everyone 'round here! So hide your land lines, hide yo cell phones, hide yo walkie talkies they be pollin' those too.

Posted by: 'twan Dodson at September 20, 2016 01:44 PM (VxHD9)

246 Monmouth Poll lists this

DEMOGRAPHICS (weighted)
Self-Reported
32% Republican
34% Independent
35% Democrat
46% Male
54% Female
19% 18-34
25% 35-49
28% 50-64
28% 65+
69% White
13% Black
15% Hispanic
4% Other

This is the weighted fraction (IOW manipulated) but they do not tell "how" it was weighted. Obama won FL in 2012 by 1%, so any poll weighted above that is Bogus.

http://bit.ly/2ckfol1

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 20, 2016 01:44 PM (mpXpK)

247 fixerupper, it depends upon how many of the pineapples have rusty razor-wire attached.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 20, 2016 01:44 PM (5VD/X)

248 The jerk called me "dreamboat." Really.

-----

Shit.

That was YOU??

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:40 PM (8XRCm)

Mr. Jenkins??? I thought you died!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2016 01:45 PM (TOk1P)

249 I'm wondering if Trump will ever do so bad in polling that people will say:

"We're in Romney/Ryan territory right now!"

Because objectively speaking, Trump is FAR ahead of where Romney was at this point in the race.

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2016 01:45 PM (uOueL)

250 "Ron Silver : They're our jets now.>>>

Tell Me about it.

Ron Brown

Let me write you a story

Posted by: Dale Brown at September 20, 2016 01:45 PM (J+eG2)

251 153 "Hillary Clinton holds a 5 point lead over Donald Trump in the crucial swing state of Florida. This is slightly less than the 9 point lead she held in a Monmouth University Poll of Sunshine State voters taken last month."

There are polls, and there are polls...

This particular poll is a 401 person poll, with a margin of error of plus or minus 5 points.

Plus or minus 5 points. That's 10 points total that the poll can be off. Why even bother having a poll if you're not going to get more accurate than that?
Posted by: jwest at September 20, 2016 01:27 PM (Zs4uk)

Reposting this because it amuses me so.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at September 20, 2016 01:45 PM (RD7QR)

252 "220 We're in Clinton/Dole territory now.
Posted by: Demon"

Stop being so obvious or I'll stop payment on that check.

Posted by: David Brock at September 20, 2016 01:45 PM (OD2ni)

253
Poll: Venezuela polling high as icon of socialism success.

Posted by: Hector at September 20, 2016 01:46 PM (9mTYi)

254 We need a new rule at AOS

All troll based comments are subject to moderation.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 20, 2016 01:46 PM (SeD0w)

255 #3 - any further questions about his
past--specifically, his medical records and his college transcripts--are
deemed "birther" and racist.
And it has worked because of the media. Posted by: RoyalOil at September 20, 2016 01:35 PM (e2Rx3)
=====

As a parent of a kid in college, all the paperwork I have to complete for the Feds has a big attestation page. They did way back in the day when Obama and Fauxcahontas were going to school as well. Penalties of perjury and all that.

Heh. I guess it is only us deplorables who take that junk seriously.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 20, 2016 01:46 PM (MIKMs)

256 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 20, 2016 01:44 PM (mpXpK)

Thanks for getting that.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:46 PM (ZFUt7)

257
New poll has Trump tied with Hillary in Maine.
Posted by: Maritime

Note: One CD has Trump way ahead, the other CD Hillary.

They balance out to make the state a jump ball overall.

Trump therefor looks to get a sold 1 EV out of the state, with an upside of a possible total of 3.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 20, 2016 01:46 PM (kdS6q)

258 You know why. His son. Who happened to be my best friend. Still, when I got my shot, his dad gave me ONE game. I made ONE bad throw... on a ball that Ozzie Smith might not have reached, up the middle.

The jerk called me "dreamboat." Really.

No... I'm not still bitter about it, why do you ask.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2016 01:40 PM (TOk1P)

Having people coach their kids is always problematic. A friend asked me to help coach his Pop Warner team.

"Why?" I asked. "Neither of my kids is on the team."

"That's exactly why. The other coaches DO have kids on the team, and we need an impartial voice on who's making it and who isn't."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 20, 2016 01:47 PM (SRKgf)

259 So the Monmouth poll shows a shift of +5 for Trump in FL.

Which is in line with the +7 shift of LAT and other
polls.

So, Hillary has collapsed, and her polls aren't looking too good either.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2016 01:47 PM (rwI+c)

260 You would think, after 8 years of pool reporters being locked into closets. getting the Rosen treatment, and corralled in a rope-pen the press would lose a bit of its shine for leftists.

Posted by: A Blinkin at September 20, 2016 01:47 PM (dnWSK)

261 252 "220 We're in Clinton/Dole territory now.
Posted by: Demon"
Stop being so obvious or I'll stop payment on that check.
Posted by: David Brock at September 20, 2016 01:45 PM (OD2ni)

Matt Demon!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 20, 2016 01:48 PM (SRKgf)

262 We need a new rule at AOS

All troll based comments are subject to moderation.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 20, 2016 01:46 PM (SeD0w)

I thought that already was the rule.

If we need a new rule, it's one designated "trusted" trollbuster for each thread. From among us Gold Star level commenters.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2016 01:48 PM (TOk1P)

263 "So, Hillary has collapsed, and her polls aren't looking too good either."

Maybe her pessiary is in too tight.

Posted by: A Blinkin at September 20, 2016 01:48 PM (dnWSK)

264
Headline: Barney Frank poles Hector!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 20, 2016 01:48 PM (9mTYi)

265 As I've been harping, the one near certainty is that 2016 turnout won't mirror 2012.
========
TBH, that really is the million dollar question.

There is so much noise on either side of the question, we're just guessing as to which is true.
I mean, everyone is so, so, so hyper-partisan now that an honest result and analysis is impossible.

One bit of my on worthless analysis to add: In the local Presidential results, I noticed the black precincts voted heavily for Obama in 2008 and 2012.

But, downticket, the other (white) Dems?

They lost.

My opinion is, they were voting for Obama, not the Democrat.

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 20, 2016 01:49 PM (e2Rx3)

266 Honestly, I don't understand how much weighting you can do with a sample size of 400.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2016 01:49 PM (rwI+c)

267
Polling is more art than science.

The soundtrack can make or break a performance.

Asuming the dancer is appealing to the eye.

I try to encourage the more appealing dancers by giving cash donations to support their art.

Posted by: Woolfurd Pullover at September 20, 2016 01:49 PM (pPTJ4)

268 Season 1, Episode 23. "Space Seed". Introducing Khan!

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 20, 2016 01:49 PM (2cS/G)

269 Drudge headline: Hillary's eyes.
Yikes

Posted by: Lizzy at September 20, 2016 01:50 PM (NOIQH)

270 We need a new rule at AOS

All troll based comments are subject to moderation.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin

I wouldn't mind seeing something along those lines if we're taking a vote.

It's like pornography, I know it when I see it.

Not everyone has to follow the same party line, but there's like 3 posters that try to derail the threads every single time with "Trump loses BIG!!!" concern trolling.

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2016 01:50 PM (uOueL)

271 101 The real birther issue.
Obama has claimed he was born in Kenya to qualify for grants available at Occidental. Federal grants. He lied on a federal form. That is why those records are sealed.

The picture of him in the turban was at the financial aid office.

Posted by: x at September 20, 2016 01:50 PM (nFwvY)

272 Here's how it done, numbnuts.

"As a lifelong conservative Republican, I am concerned that ...

... [insert horseshit here]

... and that's why I reluctantly conclude that Hillary is the only choice."

Posted by: David Brock at September 20, 2016 01:50 PM (SRKgf)

273 I guess it's being in Texas gives a different perspective on the Bushes...

And i note that encompasses more than the previous president's national media exposure

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 20, 2016 01:50 PM (C9pBZ)

274 The other coaches DO have kids on the team, and we need an impartial voice on who's making it and who isn't."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 20, 2016 01:47 PM (SRKgf)

----

I used to let my kids have some say in who played.... we actually voted.

You'd think theyd vote their bestus friends, and that happened occasionally, but..... bless their hearts, they usually just wanted to win and voted pretty solid starting lineups.

I, however, ruled the batting order with an iron fist.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:50 PM (8XRCm)

275 Turnout is going to depend on who fears the other side taking the presidency more.

Posted by: A Blinkin at September 20, 2016 01:51 PM (dnWSK)

276 As a parent of a kid in college, all the paperwork I have to complete for the Feds has a big attestation page. They did way back in the day when Obama and Fauxcahontas were going to school as well. Penalties of perjury and all that.

Heh. I guess it is only us deplorables who take that junk seriously.
===========================
Nowadays, perjury of course, depends upon what the meaning of "is" is.

And after Obama is out of office, it will come out that he perjured himself on his grant applications, but it will be excused because:1 doesn't matter now; and 2) all student loans are excused anyway!

Once again a new tower is built in the Kingdom of lies, with a brick stolen from the wall of civilization.

Posted by: simplemind at September 20, 2016 01:51 PM (C6xeQ)

277 Well, since McClatchy actually sent a reporter to Kenya, then they didn't intend to, since doing isn't intent, case closed.

Medals and raises for everyone!

Posted by: James Comey, superdetective at September 20, 2016 01:51 PM (gyKtp)

278 From among us Gold Star level commenters.
Posted by: BurtTC

*shoots BurtTC in the knee*

Sorry, no cripples.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:51 PM (mgbwf)

279 269 Drudge headline: Hillary's eyes.
Yikes

Yikes is right... Maybe that's why she cancelled her fund raising luncheon today...

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 20, 2016 01:51 PM (O2RFr)

280 What a shitty, shitty troll.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2016 01:51 PM (v9gSJ)

281 Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2016 01:40 PM (TOk1P)

Having people coach their kids is always problematic. A friend asked me to help coach his Pop Warner team.

"Why?" I asked. "Neither of my kids is on the team."

"That's exactly why. The other coaches DO have kids on the team, and we need an impartial voice on who's making it and who isn't."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 20, 2016 01:47 PM (SRKgf)

I think that's a good idea, but one reason it happens less than it should perhaps, is people's fears, either that their kid will be molested. Or not given a shot. So they bias against other people's kids.

Honestly though, his son/my friend, was probably better at short than I would have been. Great at most of it, just not terribly consistent. Still, I should have at least been the backup. Instead, I got "stuck" in the outfield, because I DID have the best arm on the team.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 20, 2016 01:51 PM (TOk1P)

282 Matt Demon!

Brad Pitt!

That poor guy is going to get taken to the cleaners.
He was in some good movies too, and quite a hansome fellow who said his lines well. He's going to lose everything.

Posted by: Woolfurd Pullover at September 20, 2016 01:51 PM (pPTJ4)

283 OT - Steve Harvey sues NASCAR because racism.
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Fcuk you, asshole.
Posted by: Wendell Scott, NASCAR Hall of Fame member at September 20, 2016 01:43 PM (9mTYi)

Just read an article about this. Harvey says he has no involvement in this lawsuit,which is being brought by Diversity racing owner, Terrence Cox. He said Harvey wanted to start a Nascar team and was denied by Nascar because they won't allow black owners.

One problem. Harvey says it's a flat out lie, he never wanted to start a Nascar team. He simply wanted to expose underprivileged kids to Nascar and this Cox guy is using his name in his lawsuit. LOL.

The Cox guy in his lawsuit is suing Nascar and and it's teams for racism...including the one team partially owned by Brad Daughtery, a black former NBA star. LOL.

Cox says that all of the drivers in the Sprint Series are White.
I guess he has missed Juan Pablo Montoya, Aric Amirola, Boris Said, and past non white drivers.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 20, 2016 01:52 PM (ntZAP)

284 Trump therefor looks to get a sold 1 EV out of the state, with an upside of a possible total of 3.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 20, 2016 01:46 PM (kdS6q)
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This is the general election. Electoral votes are apportioned and voted by state, not proportionally.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 20, 2016 01:52 PM (MIKMs)

285
Obama won FL in 2012 by 1%, so any poll weighted above that is Bogus.�
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party�

Obama won Pennsylvania by 1/2 of 1% in 2012. So the two states are good 'comparables' for polling. Except they're both being gaslighted out the ass.

These other states aren't seeing huge swings toward Trump unless it's also happening in FL and PA.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:52 PM (ZFUt7)

286 Drudge headline: Hillary's eyes.
Yikes
Posted by: Lizzy
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Holy crap!

Posted by: Jack Elam at September 20, 2016 01:52 PM (9mTYi)

287 I despise having my kids (past the age of about

on teams where the coach is a dad. It's a recipe for disaster. It's always about show-boating their kid, or the reverse (which is less frequent). Also, a parent should never talk to the coach. The kid needs to be given the appropriate words and the kid needs to talk to the coach.

Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 20, 2016 01:52 PM (09Ay7)

288
Having people coach their kids is always problematic. A friend asked me to help coach his Pop Warner team.
...
I've coached my daughter's team for several years. This is the last season as the dynamic between us (on the field) is changing, and not for the better. The only way I will continue is if I can't find a team/coach that I think is worthwhile.

Posted by: ajmojo at September 20, 2016 01:52 PM (1H9ox)

289 Wild gooses in Kenya can be very mean if you chase them.
One gave my sister a nasty bite.

Posted by: Bruce at September 20, 2016 01:53 PM (8ikIW)

290 Btw, in the Florida primary, votes broke for Trump in a major way, even according to Monmuoth. We're talking 8% broke for Trump in one week.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 20, 2016 01:53 PM (Y7bZV)

291 Great googly-moogly!

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 20, 2016 01:53 PM (2cS/G)

292 need to harness the media's spinning. unlimited power for free

Posted by: talgus at September 20, 2016 01:53 PM (UaPF2)

293 >>Here's how it done, numbnuts.

There's also this favorite: "I totes hate both of them! Now let me tell the 1,423rd reason why Trump sucks..."

Posted by: Lizzy at September 20, 2016 01:53 PM (NOIQH)

294
"As a lifelong conservative Republican, I am concerned that"
Posted by: David Brock

"Long time reader, first time poster."

"BTW -- I'm also a girl..."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 20, 2016 01:53 PM (kdS6q)

295 monmouth is pottery

for the reals

Posted by: concrete girl at September 20, 2016 01:54 PM (urZ6i)

296 113 Many Bothans died to bring this polling data to us.

Posted by: Mon Mouthma at September 20, 2016 01:20 PM (u0s1P)

ROFLMAO

You are required to maneuver straight down this narrow path to 270 votes.

Posted by: Gran of the Deplorables at September 20, 2016 01:55 PM (XIXhw)

297 >>>How is Obama being born in Kenya racist?

Anything negative said about Obama is racist. One size fits all.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 20, 2016 01:55 PM (iFgwk)

298 Real Americans are Americans INSIDE. Maybe some Americans who came from other countries legally and then worked to become citizens are better Americans than many born here (you know who you are). In that sense, I say ubama is not an American, not INSIDE, and maybe not the other way either.

Posted by: Eromero at September 20, 2016 01:55 PM (zLDYs)

299

"Long time reader, first time poster."

I remember somebody switched this around on Ace and he got kind of pissy. Lulz.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2016 01:55 PM (v9gSJ)

300
This is the general election. Electoral votes are apportioned and voted by state, not proportionally.
Posted by: mustbequantum

Maine and Nebraska have taken a slightly different approach in recent years. These states allocate two Electoral Votes to the popular vote winner, and then one each to the popular vote winner in each Congressional district (2 in Maine, 3 in Nebraska) in their state. This creates multiple popular vote contests in these states, which could lead to a split Electoral Vote.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 20, 2016 01:55 PM (kdS6q)

301 So Harvey could have a very good lawsuit against Cox. I hope he goes forward with it.

Posted by: Cheri at September 20, 2016 01:55 PM (oiNtH)

302 I think that's a good idea, but one reason it happens less than it should perhaps, is people's fears, either that their kid will be molested. Or not given a shot. So they bias against other people's kids.

When a kid got injured, I was asked to take him to the ER.

Sorry, I'd like to help, but there's no way I'm taking anybody anywhere, for just that reason. Ask one of the moms.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 20, 2016 01:55 PM (SRKgf)

303 Go to Reuters, Trump turned Vermont dark red.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 20, 2016 01:55 PM (Y7bZV)

304 Boss Tweed to Hillary, "From Hell's heart I spit at thee..."

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 20, 2016 01:56 PM (5VD/X)

305 We need a new rule at AOS

All troll based comments are subject to moderation.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin

I wouldn't mind seeing something along those lines if we're taking a vote.

It's like pornography, I know it when I see it.

Not everyone has to follow the same party line, but there's like 3 posters that try to derail the threads every single time with "Trump loses BIG!!!" concern trolling.

When they say, "XYF", and they are corrected AND SHOWN why and how it's "XYZ", and they keep coming back daily any repeating XYF, yeah, they're a troll. A shit stirrer.

Hell, if they aren't a troll unless they participate in personal attacks, let MUMR back. At least he WAS funny. Especially after the auto-changing text.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 20, 2016 01:56 PM (hTPJO)

306 279 269 Drudge headline: Hillary's eyes.
Yikes

Yikes is right... Maybe that's why she cancelled her fund raising luncheon today...
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 20, 2016 01:51 PM (O2RFr)

I couldn't do that if I tried. Is she a lizard?

Posted by: josephistan at September 20, 2016 01:56 PM (7HtZB)

307 CNBC interviewed Hapless Bill Clinton (convicted perjurer) today and he said the economic ills in America are due to capitalism and not enough government largesse.

So much for "Clintonian Economics".

Posted by: MTF at September 20, 2016 01:56 PM (/m8T6)

308 monmouth is pottery

for the reals
Posted by: concrete girl
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Also a rebellion. One of my ancestors participated. He was lucky, only sold into bondage instead of hanged.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 20, 2016 01:56 PM (9mTYi)

309 I saw the Woolly Monmouths open for Sentient Weasels at the Gorge at George in September of 400,000 B.C.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 20, 2016 01:56 PM (CS7jF)

310 Maine and Nebraska both use an alternative method of distributing their electoral votes, called the Congressional District Method. Currently, these two states are the only two in the union that diverge from the traditional winner-take-all method of electoral vote allocation. http://bit.ly/2d2pJHL

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2016 01:56 PM (rwI+c)

311 Also notable.

Those who depend on the welfare state for survival, understand that the welfare state will be less generous when there are more dependents. It might tend to make them less that enthusiastic about open borders.

Arguments re: We aren't able to take of the people we have here now, why are we importing more (?) will resonate with those voters. Not just welfare, but social security etc. Finances trump (pardon the pun) faux concerns about social justice.

Posted by: simplemind at September 20, 2016 01:57 PM (C6xeQ)

312 Wild gooses in Kenya can be very mean if you chase them.
One gave my sister a nasty bite.

Posted by: Bruce at September 20, 2016 01:53 PM

You think that's bad, a moose once bit my sister.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 20, 2016 01:57 PM (bzd8I)

313 Drudge dropped the Bush voting for Hillary story completely...

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 20, 2016 01:57 PM (O2RFr)

314 "I remember somebody switched this around on Ace and he got kind of pissy. Lula."

I think Ace was in the middle of a squat when he read it, and took it wrong.

Posted by: Dale Brown at September 20, 2016 01:57 PM (J+eG2)

315 Is she a lizard?
Posted by: josephistan at September 20, 2016 01:56 PM (7HtZB)

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She identifies as a lizard.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:57 PM (8XRCm)

316 299

"Long time reader, first time poster."

I remember somebody switched this around on Ace and he got kind of pissy. Lulz.

They forgot to say, "Dittos Ace".

Posted by: rickb223 at September 20, 2016 01:57 PM (hTPJO)

317 You think that's bad, a moose once bit my sister.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 20, 2016 01:57 PM (bzd8I)

and right in the middle of filling out those complicated insurance forms, too.

Posted by: Gran of the Deplorables at September 20, 2016 01:58 PM (XIXhw)

318 If we want alien lizard overlords, can we get Jane Badler back?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 20, 2016 01:58 PM (5VD/X)

319 "I mean, everyone is so, so, so hyper-partisan now that an honest result and analysis is impossible."

I disagree. Internal pollsters get paid to try to be objective.

Here are my assumptions, which if I were a pro I'd charge to validate:

1) Black turnout, especially among black men, will be lower. Trump should get at least a smidgen more of those who vote than Romney.

2) White non-college will have a higher turnout and a larger R vote than Romney -- this was Mitt's big problem, as this is the largest cohort by far.

3) Hispanics and Asians will be a push.

4) Youth turnout will be down, and many of those who do vote will vote for the Pothead.

5) Trump's challenge is with White College. Many of the Women here are die hard Hillary. Between now and November Trump can keep driving up her negatives, to suppress turnout. Hopefully the Rs in this cohort come home in the end.

Put this into the 538 interactive map and most realistic scenarios show a Trump win. I expect at least 300 EVs.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 20, 2016 01:58 PM (r1fLd)

320 Bill Clinton (convicted perjurer) today and he said the economic ills in America are due to capitalism and not enough government largesse.
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In other words, control. Because totalitarians are always generous to their peasants.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 20, 2016 01:58 PM (9mTYi)

321 "Long time reader, first time poster."

I remember somebody switched this around on Ace and he got kind of pissy. Lulz.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2016 01:55 PM (v9gSJ)

"Long time poster, first time reader?" That's actually pretty funny, I'm surprised ace got mad.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 20, 2016 01:59 PM (mqDWt)

322 Long time commenter...
First time reader.

It does sort of have a ring to it.

In a subtle way.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 20, 2016 01:59 PM (J+eG2)

323
Holy shit! Hillary's eyez!

She falling apart in real-time. By the debates one eye will be to the left, looking at Trump, the other to the right, looking at the moderator and people at home will be tossing their last meal.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 20, 2016 01:59 PM (ZFUt7)

324 It does sort of have a ring to it.

In a subtle way.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
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It would make a nice hash : (tl:dr)

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 20, 2016 02:00 PM (9mTYi)

325 By Monday. Hillary! will have Betty Davis eyes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 20, 2016 02:00 PM (5VD/X)

326 Nood. Moar Poles.

Posted by: johnd01 at September 20, 2016 02:01 PM (ukNFU)

327 When I was in LL my uncle and his friend coached me, my cousin, the other coach's son and all of our friends.

We went undefeated. Most of the team were on the LL All-Stars (not me, still bitter and vengeful bout it).

Most of the guys on that team went on to win the Texas HS State 5A championship and played college ball. Az St. Univ. of Texas. TAMU.

Anyway, it was a blast.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at September 20, 2016 02:01 PM (CbGSW)

328 Thank you for the information about Nebraska and Maine. I did not know that. Both are very purple, but every little bit helps overcoming the D electoral advantage.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 20, 2016 02:02 PM (MIKMs)

329 Does anyone else find it suspicious that the birther stuff came right out of the blue?

I mean I didn't hear anything about it until like Friday morning and then Trump responded very quickly.

What's really suspicious is that the Monmuth poll asked questions about it on the same day, like they knew the birther stuff was going to be unleashed.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 20, 2016 02:02 PM (Y7bZV)

330 Drudge dropped the Bush voting for Hillary story completely...

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 20, 2016 01:57 PM (O2RFr)

OK, but was anyone here surprised or shocked to hear that Poppy was going to vote for Hillary? I certainly wasn't.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 20, 2016 02:02 PM (mqDWt)

331 She falling apart in real-time. By the debates one eye will be to the left, looking at Trump, the other to the right, looking at the moderator and people at home will be tossing their last meal.

and your problem with that is... ?

Posted by: Alan Colmes at September 20, 2016 02:03 PM (XIXhw)

332 Obama won Pennsylvania by 1/2 of 1% in 2012.

And that was with 130% turnout.

Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 20, 2016 02:04 PM (lHWU9)

333 Put this into the 538 interactive map and most realistic scenarios show a Trump win. I expect at least 300 EV

Posted by: Ignoramus
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Good call I think. I can see the change in the eyes of the Hillary voters. They simply don't even want to talk about the events of the last 10 days. They freeze up a bit when they think someone is going to bring it up.

Posted by: simplemind at September 20, 2016 02:07 PM (xVRrG)

334 I'm no rocket surgeon but Hillary's brain connections remind me of the time a squirrel partially ate through the wiring harness on a Dodge Caravan I owned. All kinds of funky stuff happened and then it just stopped working.
It was really annoying because I had to spend $1500 to fix it but it didn't actually improve the vehicle (other than letting it run) or it's longevity like replacing brakes or struts or other mechanical parts would have done.

Posted by: ajmojo at September 20, 2016 02:07 PM (1H9ox)

335 She falling apart

I think I just found the title for my next "joint"

Posted by: Spike Lee at September 20, 2016 02:07 PM (XIXhw)

336 Pending headline, release date: Monday September 26, 2016 After 10:30 ET Not to be released before the above date and time.

Hillary wins first debate, devastates Trump on all main issues....CNN

Posted by: Colin at September 20, 2016 02:07 PM (du8ty)

337 "As a lifelong conservative Republican, I am concerned that"
Posted by: David Brock

"Long time reader, first time poster."

"BTW -- I'm also a girl..."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 20, 2016 01:53 PM (kdS6q)

"BTW, I'm also bi-curious. . ."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 20, 2016 02:08 PM (X6fMO)

338 Monmouth Florida

I thought Monmouth was in New Jersey.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 20, 2016 01:08 PM (mgbwf)

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I thought Monmouth was in Illinois.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 20, 2016 01:09 PM (8XRCm)

It's in Oregon

I think it's a type of weasel.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at September 20, 2016 02:10 PM (X+nFp)

339 Hillary wins first debate, devastates Trump on all main issues....CNN

Posted by: Colin at September 20, 2016 02:07 PM (du8ty)

Yep... even if she shorts out again during the debate, the headline would be "Clinton Entertains Debate Audience With Clever Mel Tillis Impersonation"

Posted by: Gran of the Deplorables at September 20, 2016 02:10 PM (XIXhw)

340 How is Obama being born in Kenya racist?

Anything negative said about Obama is racist. One size fits all.Posted by: Yuimetal at September 20, 2016 01:55 PM (iFgwk)
****
How is being born in Kenya a negative? (outside of being eligible for president)

Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 20, 2016 02:14 PM (09Ay7)

341 What's really suspicious is that the Monmuth poll asked questions about it on the same day, like they knew the birther stuff was going to be unleashed.Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 20, 2016 02:02 PM (Y7bZV)
*****They did. It was on the left's agenda for the newscycle.

Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 20, 2016 02:16 PM (09Ay7)

342 Like Bush's vote in Texas matters. Besides, as Rush points out, there is only the word of a Kennedy who should have not said anything even if he did say that. Preying on old people is particularly sick.

Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 20, 2016 02:18 PM (09Ay7)

343

~cough-cough-cough-COUGH-COUGH-COUGH- (fart/squirt), cough-cough *shoe flies off-faint's~

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 20, 2016 02:19 PM (HSmrB)

344 Good call I think. I can see the change in the eyes of the Hillary voters. They simply don't even want to talk about the events of the last 10 days. They freeze up a bit when they think someone is going to bring it up.
Posted by: simplemind at September 20, 2016 02:07 PM (xVRrG)

They have gone eerily quiet about her on FB. They content themselves with ludicrous little cartoons about how E-V-I-L is The Trump. Unfortunately for them, he is the one giving NUMEROUS daily, thoughtful, substantive, and yet, rousing speeches, while they have to watch their candidate appear briefly every few making incoherent and untruthful remarks while looking like a fresh corpse.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at September 20, 2016 02:29 PM (kXoT0)

345 9/15 Colorado Leans Clinton �� Toss Up
9/15 Connecticut Likely Clinton �� Leans Clinto
9/15 Missouri Toss Up �� Leans Trump
9/15 New Jersey Likely Clinton �� Leans Clinton
9/14 Maine CD1 Safe Clinton �� Likely Clinton

Surging !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Al Leppo at September 20, 2016 02:33 PM (vmsda)

346 New thread

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at September 20, 2016 02:38 PM (kXoT0)

347 I have long resisted the idea that NeverTrumpers were actually supporting Hillary, but there is definitely a case when you're trying to lay birther-ism at Trump's feet, claiming that Clinton had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Axeman at September 20, 2016 02:48 PM (2mC6G)

348 Asking the reporter to confirm being sent to Kenya is hardly supporting Hillary. It is basic fact-checking and not believing any story without evidence because you like how it sounds.

Posted by: justaguy at September 20, 2016 03:16 PM (wTSvK)

349 189 Harvey now says the whole thing is bullshit and denies hecwas ever going to start a racing team with Diversity or anyone else.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at September 21, 2016 02:41 AM (Kucy5)

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