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Now CNN/ORC: Trump Leads in Ohio and Florida

Hm.

Well, I actually did not expect this. I was fighting on Trump's behalf not because I thought there was any point to it except I could not imagine what else I could possibly do except try to stop Hillary from being president.

I just thought it was a morally necessity to resist that outcome to the utmost -- even if any efforts expended were futile.

So I really don't even know what to say.

For a few weeks I've been saying "Well, if Trump doesn't overtake Hillary with all this bad news piling up for her, then it's over, and I can say 'I did my best, and I can just get back to blogging about nonsense," and I was half-hoping for that liberation.

I really did not expect this. I thought there was a chance -- 10%, 15%, something low -- but that it was unlikely.

Now you're telling me this buffoon could actually win?

What?

Then again, this race has shown it is almost nothing but dramatic shifts and sudden reversals, and you'd be foolish to think it's done surprising us.

And don't forget the Toricelli Option.

The Democrats love power a hell of a lot more than they love Granny "Shakes" McFaceplant.

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton said Hillary had "the flu," which she doesn't have, according to her campaign spin. I guess he totally doesn't know what disease his wife is alleged to have

And her doctor did what everyone expected her to do -- claimed she was in the pink of health, didn't bother explaining the whole seizure/convulsion thing that literally everyone in the world has now seen.

Posted by: Ace at 06:05 PM




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1 First

Posted by: @PeeteySDee at September 14, 2016 06:06 PM (nQV+7)

2 Remember when Mitt was leading in Florida by 5%?

That happened.

Posted by: Obi Wan rooting for The Battle of Stalingrad at September 14, 2016 06:07 PM (fi5nC)

3 I keep making the mistake of reading the content. So not first.

Posted by: An Observation at September 14, 2016 06:07 PM (D+7Z3)

4 I'm with you, bro. I vote in PA. I consider it a bell weather. If it turns red or at least even by election day in pollling, I think the Sith Queen loses handily.

Posted by: @PeeteySDee at September 14, 2016 06:07 PM (nQV+7)

5 The arc of tragedy first requires a building of hope...

Posted by: xnycpeasant at September 14, 2016 06:08 PM (c0/+W)

6 Bill call former SOS Rice a "girl." Imagine if Trump had called ANY African-American female a "girl." Yeah, that.

Posted by: ever at September 14, 2016 06:08 PM (kronK)

7 Well, when the other option is death warmed over.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:08 PM (iyWqN)

8 Woof!

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 14, 2016 06:09 PM (8ZskC)

9 8 weeks is an eternity, especially the way this election is going.

So many things can happen between now and Election Day. IMO, all bets are off.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at September 14, 2016 06:09 PM (onq2p)

10 Mr. Trump, did you just say "the next time you open your mouth there better be a dick in it"?

Posted by: October 2016 at September 14, 2016 06:09 PM (c0/+W)

11 death warmed over.

Lying death warmed over...

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 14, 2016 06:09 PM (O2RFr)

12 i still think the child care proposal was a mistake. maybe it will peel off some female voters and we're seeing it in these polls. i doubt it but i'm no political savant.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 14, 2016 06:09 PM (WTSFk)

13 Bill call former SOS Rice a "girl."

Isn't that the female equivalent of "boy" as in "hey, boy, bring me my coffee?"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:09 PM (39g3+)

14 It's getting weird out there.


This is an outlier election.

Check out Texas. That polling. Georgia is weird too.

Smells like realignment.

Posted by: Obi Wan rooting for The Battle of Stalingrad at September 14, 2016 06:10 PM (fi5nC)

15 Heat.

Dehydration.

Pneumonia.

Flu.



Can somebody get their stories together?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:10 PM (iyWqN)

16 Ace, henceforth you must listen to us optimists and value our outlook! Your pessimism has proven inaccurate time and time again.

I say this not as a command, but as a liberating and happiness-inducing suggestion.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 06:10 PM (jBuUi)

17 Trump has a chance, I guess, of grabbing a healthy chunk of the LIV's (TMZ viewers, etc.) that went for Obama. He's new, he's different, he speaks to me! I'll ride those LIV's for all it's worth if it's the only way to beat Hillary

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 14, 2016 06:10 PM (2cS/G)

18
Bill call former SOS Rice a "girl."

Isn't that the female equivalent of "boy" as in "hey, boy, bring me my coffee?"


Only if a Republican does it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2016 06:11 PM (IqV8l)

19 Of course I have not checked the internals on these polls yet and since CNN doesn't even give the breakdown and the sampling given is among the worst there is for polls.


But if it shows a dead heat in FL and OH that means the Republican is really leading by at least 5% if it is like it normally is.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 06:11 PM (mpXpK)

20 Meanwhile, Bill Clinton said Hillary had "the flu," which she doesn't have, according to her campaign spin. I guess he totally doesn't know what disease his wife is alleged to have


The flu, the clap, flesh-eating bacteria. At this point in her life, what difference does it make?

Posted by: Bubba Clinton at September 14, 2016 06:11 PM (8ZskC)

21 October is going to be a long month.

Posted by: Soona at September 14, 2016 06:11 PM (xFPd9)

22 >>> I'm with you, bro. I vote in PA. I consider it a bell weather. If it turns red or at least even by election day in pollling, I think the Sith Queen loses handily.

if trump wins pennsylvania, that's it. Not because PA itself would give him the election (he could still theoretically lose), but because... well, if the PA domino falls his way, a lot of the other swing states will fall his way too.

Posted by: ace at September 14, 2016 06:11 PM (dciA+)

23 I suspect that when all is told this election will be one that breaks the molds and stands apart from all the rest. Just a one-off where the country went nuts and tells you nothing about trends or electoral logic.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:11 PM (39g3+)

24
Hillary will have a cameo on Dancing with the Stars to show she is healthy.

Posted by: Doing the Pickle Polka at September 14, 2016 06:11 PM (CFAp3)

25 I'm really starting to think Trump is a bona fide Black Swan event -- nothing's going to stop him becoming president. Not a cluttered field of better qualified Republicans (and some jerks, of course), not the Clinton Machine or any number of dirty tricks, not even him stepping on his own dick. My fear is whether he's part of a larger, even *worse* Black Swan event whose shape we don't even know.

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at September 14, 2016 06:11 PM (T9DQN)

26 To paraphrase Chuck Berry. Go ... go, Donnie, go. Donnie B. Good.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 06:12 PM (iFgwk)

27 I said from the beginning that Trump was the only Republican candidate who could potentially win by a landslide. I'm still not predicting that, but it's looking like it could really happen.

I'm still worried about vote fraud, which I predict will reach record proportions this year. Look at all the voter ID laws that have been struck down. We all know there is only one reason to oppose them. What's worse, I could see the GOPe colluding with the Democrats this time.

Posted by: rickl at September 14, 2016 06:12 PM (sdi6R)

28 I'm cautiously pessimistic.

Posted by: steevy at September 14, 2016 06:12 PM (fA75F)

29 The damn thing goes down to a tie and there is a duel in the Senate between Harry Reid and Chris Christie.

Posted by: Obi Wan rooting for The Battle of Stalingrad at September 14, 2016 06:12 PM (fi5nC)

30 As a refugee from Hot Gas, I'm wondering that if Trump wins do they play the Humpbot vid or the melting bunny?

Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 14, 2016 06:12 PM (KXpDJ)

31 "Breaking" news over at Hot Air:

Hillary's paid-liar "campaign doctor" releases obviously mendaacious and incomplete "medical record" about Hillary which basically says nothing:

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/14/ breaking-hillary-releases-medical-records-including-pneumonia-diagnosis/

They did this to say "Hey, we DID release her medical records," when this is just of course more bullshit dishonest ass-covering

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 06:12 PM (jBuUi)

32 So then the other guy says: "But first a little ooga booga." I crack myself up. But seriously Shep, let me answer your question about the wall...

Posted by: October 2016 at September 14, 2016 06:12 PM (c0/+W)

33 My liver function is 100 proof!

Posted by: Hillary 2016! at September 14, 2016 06:12 PM (FXW24)

34 >>The Democrats love power a hell of a lot more than they love Granny "Shakes" McFaceplant.


Fucking awesome.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2016 06:12 PM (It7Oy)

35 >>>12 i still think the child care proposal was a mistake. maybe it will peel off some female voters and we're seeing it in these polls. i doubt it but i'm no political savant.

comes at a bad time, too, when he could, theoretically, actually unify more of the GOP behind him. But now he has this liberal entitlement to tell them "You were right the first time."

Posted by: ace at September 14, 2016 06:13 PM (dciA+)

36 Clintons are never known to fucking lie.

I think Trump is gonna win, and I have not said that the whole time.

Wife and I are discussing sending him 500 bucks.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 06:13 PM (SzZnW)

37 Meanwhile, Bill Clinton said Hillary had "the flu," which she doesn't
have, according to her campaign spin. I guess he totally doesn't know
what disease his wife is alleged to have



How could he? He would have to give up those two big titied blond bimbos he had hanging off his arms in Vegas a few months ago, and go back to canker faced McShithead.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 06:13 PM (mpXpK)

38 Hey, Peetey. Haven't seen you around in a while. Of course, I'm not on Twitter anymore. I'm in Ohio, so I guess I have a moral obligation to vote to keep the Hildebeast out of the Oval Office.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at September 14, 2016 06:13 PM (FQKBL)

39 Coz u live in NYC and not in the burbs like us, ace, so u r surprised.

Typing w one finger sorry

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 14, 2016 06:13 PM (Om16U)

40 I'm surprised Camp Hillary! hasn't advanced the idea that her recent seizure wasn't a seizure at all, but rather a hyper-focused yoga super-concentration, um, trance!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2016 06:13 PM (Sfs6o)

41 If you want checks and balances to be back on the table, Trump is the only way to get that.

BOTH parties are going to be gunning for him....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at September 14, 2016 06:13 PM (Saqzi)

42 ... i think trump would as likely gain as many borderline female votes decrying the debt and its harm to the country's future.

i doubt he can do both now. but then again, he will, whatever to seal the deal.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 14, 2016 06:13 PM (WTSFk)

43 At this rate, Trump will be campaigning in Staten Island and Queens in early October...

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 14, 2016 06:13 PM (fgOnp)

44 "I'm wondering that if Trump wins do they play the Humpbot "


Heh. I haven't thought about Humpbot in years.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:14 PM (iyWqN)

45 29 The damn thing goes down to a tie and there is a duel in the Senate between Harry Reid and Chris Christie.
Posted by: Obi Wan rooting for The Battle of Stalingrad at September 14, 2016 06:12 PM (fi5nC)


Add the word "literally" to that sentence and I'm in.

Posted by: rickl at September 14, 2016 06:14 PM (sdi6R)

46 The only reason to oppose voter ID laws is because there are five old black ladies in this country that don't have birth certificates. I know this because the media trots them out every damned time it comes up.

What other reason could there be?

Posted by: Chupacabra at September 14, 2016 06:15 PM (McglG)

47 what would be really cool is if clinton (hillary) would deliver that statement on her super-duper health herself; the tweets are not enough

Posted by: incorrigible runner at September 14, 2016 06:15 PM (c6/9Q)

48 " My liver function is 100 proof!"



Totally pickled. Just like the jar you'll have to open.....again.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:15 PM (iyWqN)

49 Trump opened a campaign office in Los Angeles..yeah, I know.

Posted by: IC at September 14, 2016 06:15 PM (a0IVu)

50 Weren't we told that Hillary's staff had pneumonia, implying that it was the contagious variety? Now we are told it's the bacterial non-contagious variety.

Gotta consider that photo with the little girl I guess.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 14, 2016 06:15 PM (2+ECd)

51
Hillary will have a cameo on Dancing with the Stars to show she is healthy.

She will break dance. Literally.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2016 06:15 PM (IqV8l)

52 For Hillary supporters, her dying in office or being utterly unfit to serve really doesn't matter. Anything to stop the hated Republican. Literally anything is better than a GOP president.

But to be fair, I'd take a deceased Donald Trump over Hillary too. I just have historic, logical, and substantive reasons for it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:15 PM (39g3+)

53 Ace -

I think you mean 'moral necessity', not 'morally necessity'.

Unless you really meant 'morally necessary'?

either way, did you catch the new South Park last night?

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2016 06:15 PM (It7Oy)

54 if trump wins pennsylvania, that's it. Not because PA itself would give him the election (he could still theoretically lose), but because... well, if the PA domino falls his way, a lot of the other swing states will fall his way too.



Posted by: ace at September 14, 2016 06:11 PM (dciA+)


***********

Eh--not necessarily so. The Demographics tell you more and Pennsylvania doesn't match up that well with other states--except---Ohio.

Ohio is weird because that is one of the few states Trump didn't win during the primary.

Posted by: Obi Wan rooting for The Battle of Stalingrad at September 14, 2016 06:16 PM (fi5nC)

55 I could see the GOPe colluding with the Democrats this time.

Posted by: rickl at September 14, 2016 06:12 PM (sdi6R)

They already have. They allowed the Choom to pack the appellate courts. They are all 70% Obama picks now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 06:16 PM (mpXpK)

56 humpbot is too old, something from at least this decade is needed

Posted by: incorrigible runner at September 14, 2016 06:16 PM (c6/9Q)

57 >> If it turns red or at least even by election day in
>> pollling,

Pray for shitrains in Philly.

Enough shitrain to wash away all the vans full of fake ballots.

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 06:16 PM (TppKb)

58 if trump wins pennsylvania, that's it. Not because PA itself would give him the election (he could still theoretically lose), but because... well, if the PA domino falls his way, a lot of the other swing states will fall his way too.

Posted by: ace


I presume you have seen this other new poll from today:

USC/LA Times now has Trump up by FIVE POINTS in national poll:

http://dornsife.usc.edu/cf/unruh/poll.cfm

Trump 47 - Hillary 42, as of today. National.

Yeah, the USC poll has been slanting Trump this year, but this is his hugest lead since the GOP convention. Massive trending line in his direction.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 06:16 PM (jBuUi)

59 Trump-diddly-doo neighbor!

Posted by: Ned Flanders at September 14, 2016 06:16 PM (HgMAr)

60 It's less walking pneumonia, and more boogie-woogie blues. That's what the doctors have told me, anyway.

Posted by: Bubba Clinton at September 14, 2016 06:16 PM (8ZskC)

61 Just saw on FOX, the Administration is considering a joint USA-Russia operation on ISIS...

I need to make a list of "extreme" but popular Trump positions being quietly co-opted by the Obama/Hills/Dems.

Pretty neat election trick if one has no principles at all - adopt the opposition positions and pretend they were always yours.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 14, 2016 06:17 PM (P/kVC)

62 En fuego!

Posted by: The Guy who shouts "En fuego" at September 14, 2016 06:17 PM (TD9KB)

63 Weren't we told that Hillary's staff had pneumonia, implying that it was the contagious variety? Now we are told it's the bacterial non-contagious variety.

Well see, it worked like this: their variety was contagious, just long enough for her to catch it, then it mutated into a non-contagious variety. Evolution in action! SEE GOD-BOY, ITS REAL!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:17 PM (39g3+)

64 43 At this rate, Trump will be campaigning in Staten Island and Queens in early October...

His numbers in Staten Island were insane. I think I might be the only person in my entire precinct who voted for Cruz.

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at September 14, 2016 06:17 PM (T9DQN)

65 I'm waiting for the Nov 8 poll. Ya know, the one that counts. If he can beat the margin of fraud this will be a landslide for Mr. Deplorable.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 14, 2016 06:17 PM (d76uN)

66 >> They already have. They allowed the Choom to
>> pack the appellate courts. They are all 70% Obama
>> picks now.

And don't forget the Mitt/Flake/Collins/etc ads.

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 06:17 PM (TppKb)

67 Soon.

Posted by: Full Scale Electoral Collapse at September 14, 2016 06:17 PM (8ZskC)

68 Can anyone recall a major candidate that had both parties dead set against them?

The Donald has made it this far, and I think the turnout pattern is much different than 2008 and 2012.

270 is the magic #. Trump has a tougher path to get there, but I predict and hope he does. I think PA, MI, IA, OH, and maybe even WI help him get over. YMMV.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at September 14, 2016 06:18 PM (onq2p)

69 "Trump opened a campaign office in Los Angeles..yeah, I know."




Like Patton and Schwartkof, don't let them think any front is off limits. Keep 'em guessing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:18 PM (iyWqN)

70 to lead in ohio and florida is FBD at this point in the game; i was thinking closer to end of october

Posted by: incorrigible runner at September 14, 2016 06:18 PM (c6/9Q)

71 The only reason to oppose voter ID laws is because there are five old black ladies in this country that don't have birth certificates.

How did they register to vote to begin with if they have no ID?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:18 PM (39g3+)

72 Well I've been thinking Trump has been executing on a plan for a while now. He shoots his mouth off, for real, but a lot of what's been done is staged and calculated.

I wish President Trump well and have hopes he'll clean house.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 14, 2016 06:18 PM (sh70B)

73 >>>Then again, this race has shown it is almost nothing but dramatic shifts and sudden reversals, and you'd be foolish to think it's done surprising us.

That's what happens with two unlikable candidates. It's going to fluctuate back and forth to the day of the election. If it looks like Hillary's got it going away, people will get nervous and throw some support to Trump. If it looks like it could be Trump, I expect to see a tilt back to Hillary. Hillary and a Trump can each pull 40-something %, all the sloshing is the 10-15% vacillating or going Johnson or Stein.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 14, 2016 06:18 PM (64GmR)

74 Early voting should be mandatory for all pre Americans.

To further that end, at this pivotal point in our history, I have decided to open voter registration offices in refugee centers throughout Europe.

Because keeping honest hardworking folks who just want to participate in democracy from voting is not who we are as Americans.

Posted by: King Barry at September 14, 2016 06:19 PM (c0/+W)

75 Ya I wouldn't bet on one damn thing.

Posted by: Obi Wan rooting for The Battle of Stalingrad at September 14, 2016 06:19 PM (fi5nC)

76 I think people have finally wised up to what is being done to them. And once they stop listening to leftist lies, all the Katie Courics and Chris Matthews lose their power and influence.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 06:19 PM (iFgwk)

77 I expect by the end of the month, the GOP will be singing Trump's praises and all those jackwagons around the table muttering darkly about supporting Hillary will be patting his back and smiling in photo ops.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:19 PM (39g3+)

78 61
Pretty neat election trick if one has no principles at all - adopt the opposition positions and pretend they were always yours.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 14, 2016 06:17 PM (P/kVC)


Isn't that pretty much what Bill Clinton did with welfare reform?

Posted by: rickl at September 14, 2016 06:19 PM (sdi6R)

79 How did they register to vote to begin with if they have no ID?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor


HA HA HA hahahhahaha!

[Wipes eyes.]

You don't live in a Democratic precinct, do you?

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 06:19 PM (jBuUi)

80 Been saying since day one...Trump takes 41-42 states.

Posted by: Deplorable Diogenes at September 14, 2016 06:19 PM (r65B3)

81 Chris Cuomo is on suicide watch.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:20 PM (1ZOkK)

82 I still remember the Trumpists declaring that he was going to flip New York and New Jersey red. How's that working out?

Posted by: V the K at September 14, 2016 06:20 PM (jn7FC)

83 I've been saying for years that The FAB is almost the worst candidate of all times and since most of it is her personality or lack there of, there is not way for her to correct that.

Trump had never done this before and made a lot of mistakes and some some damn stupid things, but he had/has the ability to turn things around and can be a nice charming guy.

And the fact is if Trump can keep his gaffes to a minimum and stay composed, he is likely to to take this thing. AND AND The FAB is one more "seizure" or major Email drop from falling off the cliff.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:20 PM (Ozsfq)

84 Anyone know a good real estate agent in France?

Not too close to the Muslims, please.

Posted by: Never Trumpers at September 14, 2016 06:20 PM (fgOnp)

85 I still remember the Trumpists declaring that he was going to flip New York and New Jersey red. How's that working out?
Posted by: V the K at September 14, 2016 06:20 PM (jn7FC)


What's Trumpist?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:20 PM (Ozsfq)

86 I don't like Trump, and think he'd be a terrible president but I want Hillary Clinton to lose, and lose big. I want her to suffer failure and humiliation rather than triumph and never pay a price for her evil. I do not want her rewarded for her corruption and lies.

Which is why I'm still certain she wins.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:21 PM (39g3+)

87 If Trump wins, Hollywood will be a ghost town.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:21 PM (1ZOkK)

88 Trump's going to win. He will propose liberal policies, and all the Dems, along with most of the spineless GOPers, will happily go along. Our two party system will look like Europe. As Rush said today, the idea of limited government will be dead.

So... what's the plan for keeping some spark of Constitutionalism alive for the 12 to 20 years during which Trump is the most Conservative president?

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:21 PM (mFkVC)

89 I've said all along that yeah, the GOPe doesn't like Trump and would rather deal with Hillary. But it was also easy for a lot of them because deep-down they never believed he ever had a chance of actually winning, It will be interesting to see how they react from here on in. Do they go nuclear on Trump? Or do they slowly walk it back......
Everyone likes a strong horse.

Posted by: MittRomney at September 14, 2016 06:21 PM (oDgpD)

90 >>>Now you're telling me this buffoon could actually win?

Yes, now. Also see: back at the start of the primary. In the middle of the primary. At the end of the primary. After the convention. Pretty much non-stop since about a month after he entered.

But, yes, now too.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 14, 2016 06:21 PM (R+30W)

91 Those States that have voter ID laws allow a lot more things than a driver's license. And ALL tates that have them will give people an equivalent ID card for free if they can not afford the $5 fee.


The no ID card is an excuse the vote fraud people roll out.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 06:21 PM (mpXpK)

92 "I really did not expect this. I thought there was a chance -- 10%, 15%, something low -- but that it was unlikely."

White non-college is the largest voting cohort out there (by a lot) but the Ds turned on them and the GOPe don't want them in their club.

Trump saw the value in undeveloped land that everyone else was ignoring and built on it.

I made the point here nearly a year ago that if Trump got white non-college turnout up just 5% or so, and had black turnout retreat to pre-Obama levels, and hold everything else the same, Trump would hold Romney's electoral map and win OH, PA and FL and win the election.




Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2016 06:21 PM (r1fLd)

93 If you put a gun to my head, I would say Trump will still narrowly lose the election. I think he'll grab Ohio, NC, even Florida, but not have quite enough to eke out a victory. But I do also think all the people who say Trump is a dead man walking, politically speaking, are going to be stunned on Election Night. Not because he'll win, but because he'll come a lot closer than McCain or Romney.

Posted by: T at September 14, 2016 06:21 PM (Vgw1E)

94 >>> the whole seizure/convulsion thing that literally everyone in the world has now seen.

How about the wandering witch's eye?

Totes normal for a seventy year old lush with a few strikes under her belt?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 14, 2016 06:22 PM (P/kVC)

95 Scorched earth.

That's how we roll.

Posted by: Barak and The Totalitarians at September 14, 2016 06:22 PM (MlXgU)

96 i don't know why some folks keep saying that we are dealing with two "unlikable" candidates - Trump is pretty well liked, rallies are uuuge, support is pretty good, even among african-americans; enthusiasm, new registration up

Posted by: incorrigible runner at September 14, 2016 06:22 PM (c6/9Q)

97 CNN: Hillary is really healthy. Maybe a touch of pneumonia, but as healthy as can be....Trump is overweight, doesn't exercise, and still hasn't released any credible report on his health!

Posted by: Colin at September 14, 2016 06:22 PM (hIWCG)

98 Not so sure about the PA theory. PA is kind of goofy and was in his camp in the primaries. He could still get hammered in the non-methamphetamine drenched states.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 14, 2016 06:22 PM (LWu6U)

99 So I really don't even know what to say.

If Trump makes this happen, the whole world will be stunned.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 06:22 PM (qCMvj)

100 84 Anyone know a good real estate agent in France?

Not too close to the Muslims, please.
Posted by: Never Trumpers


Seriously, the eastern suburbs of Marseille along the coast toward Cassis are really beautiful and still very affordable - - and that area is considered the upscale "as far away from the Muslims as you can get in Marseille" part of Marseille.

Seriously. It's basically adjacent to the Cote d'Azure without the high prices. That's where I'd start looking.

Posted by: zombie at September 14, 2016 06:22 PM (jBuUi)

101 >> I expect by the end of the month, the GOP will be
>> singing Trump's praises and all those jackwagons
>> around the table muttering darkly about supporting
>> Hillary will be patting his back and smiling in photo
>> ops.

And in this piece:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/440006/problem-every-intellectual-defense-trump-ive-ever-read

We find that David French is incapable of reading English.

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 06:22 PM (TppKb)

102 35 ace: absolutely. out of nowhere he gave credibility to all of her entitlement programs, at least her own child care proposal which was a very minor issue.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 14, 2016 06:22 PM (WTSFk)

103 Everyone likes a strong horse.

Amen!

Posted by: Catherine the Great at September 14, 2016 06:23 PM (TD9KB)

104
If Trump wins, Hollywood will be a ghost town.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:21 PM (1ZOkK)


I live in Hollywood,so not completely.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at September 14, 2016 06:23 PM (lKyWE)

105 If Hillary wins, G-D help us.

However, the sight of her boarding AF1 on one of those stair-rider thingies for old folks would be almost worth it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:23 PM (1ZOkK)

106
To further that end, at this pivotal point in our history, I have decided to open voter registration offices in refugee centers throughout Europe.

Remember the editorials by liberals saying residents of other countries should have a say in our presidential elections because our president matters very much to their lives?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2016 06:23 PM (IqV8l)

107 i don't know why some folks keep saying that we are dealing with two "unlikable" candidates - Trump is pretty well liked, rallies are uuuge, support is pretty good, even among african-americans; enthusiasm, new registration up
Posted by: incorrigible runner at September 14, 2016 06:22 PM (c6/9Q)

Yup I agree.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:24 PM (Ozsfq)

108 The medical info Herself released today are total bullshit in that a half truth is always harder to prove and more devastating than a 'lie.

People in the condition-- according to the info Herself released--- do not need TWO doctors walking with them or near them at all times.

Something 'big is missing.

Posted by: !Deplorable Lives Matter! at September 14, 2016 06:24 PM (RO6kX)

109 >> However, the sight of her boarding AF1 on one of
>> those stair-rider thingies for old folks would be
>> almost worth it.

I figure more like a lift bucket.

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 06:24 PM (TppKb)

110 Come on, everyone -- is there anyone here who expected the doctor to come out on national television, tell the truth, and admit "Mrs. Clinton submitted to a complete physical exam, and for the love of God, it was like watching The Abominable Doctor Phibes on late-night." I mean, people have wound up dead for less.

As for Billy Jeff's mistaken comment about her having the flu, expect this at a press conference: "Mah fellow Amuricans, I was mistaken about what Hillary was suffering from, but y'all gotta unnerstand, it's not like she and I share a bed, or even live under the same roof. Haven't lived together since we left the White House, matter o' fact. And at least I know that whatever it is she's got, it's not something that I picked up on Pedo Island and passed on to her; we've only had sex together the one time, y'know."

Posted by: Qoheleth at September 14, 2016 06:24 PM (iIzG7)

111 Well, I've always thought he had a chance, even a good chance, but I'm still glad you're coming around, Ace.

I don't think the DNC dares to replace Tia Borracha; she has surely been saving up dirt on every one of her "friends" and "allies" for decades and they will not want that stuff released. The Clinton Crime Family doesn't command the apparent loyalty of all those people because they are such kind and loving folks.

Posted by: deplorable_sock_rat_eez at September 14, 2016 06:24 PM (Z8DIA)

112 A "Trumpist" is a type of instrument, widely used in the 1700, the modern horn is based on it

Posted by: incorrigible runner at September 14, 2016 06:24 PM (c6/9Q)

113 If Hillary wins I'm going to switch back to being a Dem. An effing completely corrupt goose stepping Party member. Coz it's either that or camps.

Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 14, 2016 06:24 PM (Om16U)

114 "I still remember the Trumpists declaring that he was going to flip New York and New Jersey red. How's that working out?"

It's not over yet. I think New Jersey is a long-shot, but still possible. It depends on whether or not the hood-rats stay home...
New York? Unlikely. But it's been one weird year....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 14, 2016 06:24 PM (oDgpD)

115 "Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets."

Posted by: Travis Bickle at September 14, 2016 06:25 PM (HBC+3)

116 83 And the fact is if Trump can keep his gaffes to a
minimum and stay composed, he is likely to to take this thing. AND AND
The FAB is one more "seizure" or major Email drop from falling off the
cliff.





Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:20 PM (Ozsfq)


The only people those so-called Republican gaffes mean anything to is the MFM. The normal crowd no longer believes the MFM; they shot their wad with Obama. And Trump has played the MFM like a polish guy on Lawrence Welk playing the accordion.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 06:25 PM (mpXpK)

117 Hey I know when *I* am interviewing for a senior management position, I always fake a seizure and leave early. Makes things more interesting.

Also I like to leave like four follow-up emails with contradictory building on what just happened.

So I can relate.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 14, 2016 06:25 PM (C4kJG)

118 I don't find Trump unlikable at all. I had to be dragged kicking and screaming to Team Trump, but I'm happy here. It's kinda cozy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:25 PM (1ZOkK)

119 "How's that working out? "

Well if you remember the night of the Iowa Caucus and the gloating by the cruztards, about the same as Ted's second term as POTUS.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 14, 2016 06:25 PM (d76uN)

120 112 A "Trumpist" is a type of instrument, widely used in the 1700, the modern horn is based on it
Posted by: incorrigible runner at September 14, 2016 06:24 PM (c6/9Q)
--------------

A Trumpist is a Democrat that virulently hates Democrats.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:26 PM (mFkVC)

121 I'm with you, bro. I vote in PA. I consider it a bell weather. If it turns red or at least even by election day in pollling, I think the Sith Queen loses handily.
Posted by: @PeeteySDee at September 14, 2016 06:07 PM (nQV+7)



Mining For Gold
~Cowboy Junkies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kugPD36y5YA

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 06:26 PM (qCMvj)

122 Contradictory bullsh!t, i meant.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 14, 2016 06:26 PM (C4kJG)

123 Ace will be psoting optimistic polls until the end. Does anyone recall Ace ever saying that Obama would win overwhelmingly two times?

Posted by: him at September 14, 2016 06:26 PM (epLyw)

124 @115
Someone sounding a bit David Berkowitzy today...

Posted by: xnycpeasant at September 14, 2016 06:26 PM (c0/+W)

125 "Now you're telling me this buffoon could actually win?"



Yeah, this buffoon could win. He show some semblance of competence in the debates, all while Hilldo struggles to remain conscious.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:26 PM (iyWqN)

126 If my dog was as ugly and stupid as Hilderbeast... I would shave it's ass and teach it to walk backwards..............

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 14, 2016 06:27 PM (NuElX)

127 Aaaand the paid one-name trolls will arrive in 3....2....1.....

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:27 PM (1ZOkK)

128 An imaginary interview with Dr Whateverthefuckhernameis:

The incident on Sunday?

Pneumonia

And the earlier seizures?

Pneumonia

The concussion in 2012?

Also pneumonia

Opens mouth

Yep, same thing. Pneumonia, but she's in remarkably good health because she's a woman who's powering through

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2016 06:27 PM (kTF2Z)

129 I don't think the DNC dares to replace Tia Borracha; she has surely been saving up dirt on every one of her "friends" and "allies" for decades



Those 900 FBI file weren't all Republicans.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2016 06:27 PM (cHbIE)

130
This isn't how it works.
This isn't how any of this work!

Posted by: Hillary Hospice Clinton at September 14, 2016 06:27 PM (yfObW)

131 Ah Ferd but if your dog could learn to walk backwards not such a stupid mutt after all. No?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at September 14, 2016 06:27 PM (c0/+W)

132 Coz it's either that or camps.
Posted by: Deplorable @votermom at September 14, 2016 06:24 PM


But the camps will have a better class of people.

Initially.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2016 06:28 PM (TD9KB)

133 I am wondering about the backlash if they do try to replace her, The Fembots would scream. Also who do they replace her with? Sanders? He did have the next deligate count. He is also toast if it is him. Biden? Trump will destroy him in a debate, just look at his last two VP debates. He was ignored because of his position. That will not fly when he is center stage.

Posted by: Picric at September 14, 2016 06:28 PM (s0VSd)

134 Meanwhile, Bill Clinton said Hillary had "the flu," which she doesn't have, according to her campaign spin. I guess he totally doesn't know what disease his wife is alleged to have

She's Bill Clinton's wife, so she couldn't possibly know what diseases she had.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 14, 2016 06:28 PM (bPMvx)

135 If Trump makes this happen, the whole world will be stunned.

I agree, stunned to silence, like staring incoherently like Cthulhu just showed up. Like Brexit, but 50 times more. Heads may explode on national television like Scanners.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:28 PM (39g3+)

136 She's in perfect health. It's just that stairs are sexist and ageist and poopy heads.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 14, 2016 06:28 PM (gTQoY)

137 How many states are already voting? Did military absentee ballots already go out?

Posted by: Jean at September 14, 2016 06:29 PM (ngn8T)

138 ..it probably won't amount to anything one way or the other.

reality will impose, however, and greenspan (who i respect a great deal) pointed out the perilous stae of things recently. stagflation and a monster destructive debt.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 14, 2016 06:29 PM (WTSFk)

139 Hillary Health Report: In Too Good Of Health.

Posted by: Cantankerous at September 14, 2016 06:29 PM (jOSqt)

140 The Umps give Kershaw EVERY call

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:29 PM (Ozsfq)

141 Link isn't working. But then again it's CNN so I can't say I was all that interested.

Posted by: bananaDream at September 14, 2016 06:29 PM (Ag8Mw)

142 Now if we win one more, that's called a winning streak. It has happened before.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 06:30 PM (kumBu)

143 "All well within the margin of fraud." - Dems

Posted by: wth at September 14, 2016 06:30 PM (HgMAr)

144 Hey, even RedState's hedging their NeverTrump snark these days.

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 06:30 PM (TppKb)

145 Thinking of a Trump victory, mostly I like the part where some of my acquaintances rend their garments, tear their hair out, and gnash their teeth. The rest of him winning is iffy, but there's something to be said for it.

Posted by: deplorable shillelagh at September 14, 2016 06:30 PM (L3vVL)

146 137
How many states are already voting? Did military absentee ballots already go out?

Posted by: Jean at September 14, 2016 06:29 PM (ngn8T)


Lol. My son and over half the Marines he served with never got their ballots.

I raised hell about it here, and it did no good. I literally walked back to my car in tears.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:30 PM (1ZOkK)

147 The Umps give Kershaw EVERY call

Yeah Maddox was the same way with the Braves. Guys like them don't need a 3 foot wide strike zone, its like batter abuse.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:31 PM (39g3+)

148 There is a flip side to that coin. The Clintons love power and wealth more than they love the Democratic Party. They will only let go of the helm if they are dead. The DNC interim chair is their minion, so expect any effort to remove a non-comatose Hillary to go nowhere.

If a graceful retirement spending their loot was on their to do list, they never would have run. But the world's thug elite paid up, now the Clintons have to deliver or guys with sniper rifles and machetes come calling.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at September 14, 2016 06:31 PM (4EqBd)

149 Heads may explode on national television like Scanners.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:28 PM (39g3+)
.............

That would make it worth it by itself.

Posted by: wth at September 14, 2016 06:31 PM (HgMAr)

150 137

How many states are already voting? Did military absentee ballots already go out?



Posted by: Jean at September 14, 2016 06:29 PM (ngn8T)

Lol. My son and over half the Marines he served with never got their ballots.

I raised hell about it here, and it did no good. I literally walked back to my car in tears.




Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:30 PM (1ZOkK)


Meant to mention, this was in 2012.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:31 PM (1ZOkK)

151 Is it me or does it seem that the more shrill CNN gets, the more Trump gains?

I walk past a TV all day long, never hear the sound, but i can 'read' the drumbeat. For the past two days, EVERY CNN headline i see is either Trump tax returns or Trump health records. I think more and more 'average' Americans are thinking:

Hillary collapses in public, and they are calling for TRUMP'S medical records!?
Hillary's 'foundation' has been busted for fraudulent and unethical practices and they are calling for TRUMP's tax returns!? What's next - demands to see Trump's internet server plan?!

Posted by: goatexchange at September 14, 2016 06:31 PM (YFnq5)

152 A Trumpist is a Democrat that virulently hates Democrats.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:26 PM (mFkVC)
as long as he votes for Trump....

Posted by: pompadour (a non poudre) at September 14, 2016 06:31 PM (c6/9Q)

153 NOTHING MATTERS UNTIL AFTER LABOR DAY AND LABOR DAY FALLS AT THE END OF OCTOBER!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 14, 2016 06:31 PM (4ErVI)

154 >> Heads may explode on national television like
>> Scanners.

Ohpleaseplease.

Please, Lord, let there be a four-hour queue of private jets leaving Burbank for parts unknown, never to return.

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 06:32 PM (TppKb)

155 106
Remember the editorials by liberals saying residents of other countries should have a say in our presidential elections because our president matters very much to their lives?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2016 06:23 PM (IqV8l)


Yes, I remember that, especially around the 2004 election. They found a pretty clever way to do that: Bring them here by the millions.

Posted by: rickl at September 14, 2016 06:32 PM (sdi6R)

156 If I go down, we all go down! Don't you understand! That fascist fuck Trump will have us swinging in nooses!

Steiner will come! Steiner will come!!

Das war ein Befehl! Das war ein Befehl!

Accccck... hic... *faceplants* pffftt... drool....

*tossed into van*

Posted by: Hillary in Der Untergang at September 14, 2016 06:32 PM (fgOnp)

157 " If Trump makes this happen, the whole world will be stunned. "




And that's partly why I'm for it. We NEED our BREXIT. We need a re-arrangement of treaties and alliances. We've bent over and taken every damn fucking we can and the world and the world has just assumed we'll do this over and again.



Pardon my French.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:32 PM (iyWqN)

158 Dear Lord,
If you see fit to call Hillary home on Tuesday morning election day, I promise to go to church daily.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2016 06:32 PM (cHbIE)

159 Those poll numbers rise any higher and we pull the plug on 45 million EBT carbs in October and call it a glitch in January.

Posted by: Barak and The Totalitarians at September 14, 2016 06:33 PM (MlXgU)

160 141 Link isn't working. But then again it's CNN so I can't say I was all that interested.

Posted by: bananaDream at September 14, 2016 06:29 PM (Ag8Mw)

++++

There's some extra stuff on the end. Just clip off the bit after .html.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 14, 2016 06:33 PM (R+30W)

161
Ace, forget the next 4-8 years blogging about fasting, films and other miscellany.

Trump may just pull this off and then we'll have our hands full bitching at him about shoving the Overton Window in the wrong direction.

Please G-d.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2016 06:33 PM (9P3OG)

162 A "Trumpist" is a type of instrument, widely used in the 1700, the modern horn is based on it.

It's like a harpsichord, but for the mouth.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 14, 2016 06:33 PM (8ZskC)

163 RELEASE THE BALLOONS!

Posted by: Max Power at September 14, 2016 06:33 PM (q177U)

164 "Yeah Maddox was the same way with the Braves. Guys like them don't need a 3 foot wide strike zone, its like batter abuse.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:31 PM (39g3+) "

But Maddux actually had pinpoint control. I only got pissed when they gave the same strike zone to Smoltz and Glavine.

And don't even talk about Livan Hernandez in 1997. They gave him the Maddux strike zone and he was basically a rookie.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 06:33 PM (kumBu)

165
Michelle Obama will take over as the nominee with the slogan "For the second time in my life I'm proud of my country"

Posted by: Take a knee to the Anthem at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (CFAp3)

166 162 A "Trumpist" is a type of instrument, widely used in the 1700, the modern horn is based on it.

It's like a harpsichord, but for the mouth.
Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 14, 2016 06:33 PM (8ZskC)


Jew's Harp?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (9P3OG)

167 Lena Dunham is threatening to leave the country. I wonder who will take her?

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (1ZOkK)

168 Weren't we told that Hillary's staff had pneumonia, implying that it was the contagious variety? Now we are told it's the bacterial non-contagious variety.

Gotta consider that photo with the little girl I guess.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 14, 2016 06:15 PM (2+ECd)


another good point

the excuse was that everyone in the campaign had it

lies on top of lies on top of lies

we need a timeline - of the lies

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (qCMvj)

169 Dear Lord,
If you see fit to call Hillary home on Tuesday morning election day, I promise to go to church daily.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2016 06:32 PM (cHbIE)
...............

You talkin' to the wrong guy, man.

Posted by: Satan at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (HgMAr)

170 The debates will need a long intermission to make sure Typhoid Hilary doesn't blow a gasket.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (onq2p)

171 165
Michelle Obama will take over as the nominee with the slogan "For the second time in my life I'm proud of my country"
Posted by: Take a knee to the Anthem at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (CFAp3)


I think she's detested even more than Oma Panzersuit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (9P3OG)

172 If/When Trump wins can we start singing " We're coming to take you away Ha Ha" to Fredo?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (Ozsfq)

173 "At this rate, Trump will be campaigning in Staten Island and Queens in early October..."

He's always had a chance to challenge in NY, if not win.

Trump's issue now is to pick up (1) Republican stragglers and (2) suburban women. The childcare thing is aimed at women generally, including #2.

Trump is Giuliani bridge and tunnel. He'll lose Manhattan but can do well in the rest of NYC. We could get a Trump wave in upstate NY -- including a lot of people who haven't voted in a long time. If he can do better in the suburbs, then he can challenge. Hillary's truly fucked if she has to campaign in NY. Trump will hit her as a carpet bagger that uses voters and then forgets them.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (r1fLd)

174 Hey, even RedState's hedging their NeverTrump snark these days.
Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 06:30 PM (TppKb)

****

Fcuk the GOPe doughboy Erik. His positions will not be forgotten and they went way too far to ever redeem themselves.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, Deplorable and Irredeemable at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (89q6K)

175 " Did military absentee ballots already go out?"



Shipped.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:35 PM (iyWqN)

176
> Now you're telling me this buffoon could actually win?

> What?

The Republic is doomed anyway. Might as well make a splashy explosion when we land at the bottom of the cliff.

Posted by: ArthurK at September 14, 2016 06:35 PM (h53OH)

177
I've been lurking Kos, and they're depressed about this.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at September 14, 2016 06:35 PM (5o5ek)

178 167 Lena Dunham is threatening to leave the country. I wonder who will take her?
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (1ZOkK)


North Korea. Kim Jong Un will have someone more repulsive than him to gloat about.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2016 06:35 PM (9P3OG)

179 out?

Posted by: Jean at September 14, 2016 06:29 PM (ngn8T)

Lol. My son and over half the Marines he served with never got their ballots.

I raised hell about it here, and it did no good. I literally walked back to my car in tears.



Posted by: Jane D'oh
****

In states run by Dems this has been especially bad and on purpose from what I have seen. Of course they pretend it was alllll a big boo-boo.
Evil scum...

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at September 14, 2016 06:35 PM (+aCe4)

180 lies on top of lies on top of lies

we need a timeline - of the lies

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (qCMvj)
..............

That would take up too much disk space.
Kind of like my list of Barry's nicknames.

Posted by: wth at September 14, 2016 06:35 PM (HgMAr)

181 >>> i don't know why some folks keep saying that we are dealing with two "unlikable" candidates - Trump is pretty well liked, rallies are uuuge, support is pretty good, even among african-americans; enthusiasm, new registration up
Posted by: incorrigible runner at September 14, 2016 06:22 PM (c6/9Q)

Trump and Hillary both have high negatives. It's not a comment on my personal opinion, and you can choose another word than "unlikable" if you want. But both candidates have high negatives, and so I expect to see vacillation among the undecideds if it looks like one or the other starts pulling away. Almost an opposite preference cascade, because neither is going to pull the numbers for a preference cascade.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 14, 2016 06:35 PM (64GmR)

182 >>>I am wondering about the backlash if they do try to replace her, The Fembots would scream.

Not if it's Warren or Mooch.

Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 06:35 PM (iFgwk)

183 "Normal" may just mean "normal" for Clinton. Stressing that Clinton has had nothing new diagnosed in the last year is a red-flag.

Posted by: LASue at September 14, 2016 06:35 PM (wgFcF)

184 >>I've been lurking Kos, and they're depressed about this.


yeah them and 90% of the "Conservative' commentariat

funny they're all so depressed - I thought they were Against Both Equally. No?

Posted by: ace at September 14, 2016 06:36 PM (dciA+)

185 Heat.

Dehydration.

Pneumonia.

Flu.



Can somebody get their stories together?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:10 PM (iyWqN)



I got all that - after my heart attack.

Posted by: bergerbilder at September 14, 2016 06:36 PM (27WlQ)

186 It's like a harpsichord, but for the mouth.

Posted by: Cicero -- Profoundly Deplorable But Pretty Dependable at September 14, 2016 06:33 PM (8ZskC)

yes, extra blowing power and lung capacity is needed


Posted by: pompadour (a non poudre) at September 14, 2016 06:36 PM (c6/9Q)

187 167 Lena Dunham is threatening to leave the country. I wonder who will take her?
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (1ZOkK)
............

Mars needs women, but we're not THAT desperate.

Posted by: Martians at September 14, 2016 06:36 PM (HgMAr)

188 "I think she's detested even more than Oma Panzersuit. "





Was she in "Tank Girl?"

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:36 PM (iyWqN)

189 "North Korea. Kim Jong Un will have someone more repulsive than him to gloat about."

Maybe Ms. Dunham can catch a ride there with Arrec Barrwin.

Posted by: Qoheleth at September 14, 2016 06:37 PM (iIzG7)

190 When is the last timeBill anc Hillary were seen together

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2016 06:37 PM (8lPj5)

191 "Now you're telling me this buffoon could actually win?"

I'm rooting for the buffoon. Big time.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 06:37 PM (qCMvj)

192 I know you guys won't believe me, but this has the making of a 1972 level blowout .

And I have the charts to show it.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 14, 2016 06:37 PM (BS8yt)

193 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:32 PM (iyWqN)

Wait whut? It's my understanding that if we don't protect Estonia at all costs we are bunch of deplorable pigs.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 14, 2016 06:37 PM (d76uN)

194 173 Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (r1fLd)


As a lifetime New Yorker, with an 8 year stint in LA in between, I guarantee that Trump will not be winning NY State. Much as I wish he could it just ain't gonna happen.

If it does, I'll suck my cock.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2016 06:37 PM (9P3OG)

195 I doubt Trump has any chance to take NY, and if he were to take NJ, it would part of a Nation wide sweep across the Country save NY, CA, MASS, and the District of Columbia and maybe some other super left wing holdouts.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:37 PM (Ozsfq)

196 How did I get in this thread? I was "talking on the phone the whole time". <wink, wink>

Posted by: Hillary! at September 14, 2016 06:37 PM (F1ndw)

197 But the world's thug elite paid up, now the Clintons have to deliver or guys with sniper rifles and machetes come calling.

There is a lot riding on Hillary winning, I can see her loss ending up like the last scenes of Training Day when the Russians come calling.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:37 PM (39g3+)

198 187
Mars needs women, but we're not THAT desperate.
Posted by: Martians at September 14, 2016 06:36 PM (HgMAr)


"Ack! Ack-ack!!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2016 06:38 PM (9P3OG)

199 Kyle Hendricks has a chance to be the next Greg Maddux. Time will tell if he can stay healthy and keep hitters off-balance the way he does.

Even with his great year of leading the majors in ERA so far, he might rank third in Cy Young votes just on his own team.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at September 14, 2016 06:38 PM (onq2p)

200 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at September 14, 2016 06:38 PM (uPt3V)

201 1. Russian hacking media stories
2. Push polls showing Hillary winning
3. Hillary Health Crisis on Tape
4. Trump wins something.
5. The Burning Times

Posted by: Barak and The Totalitarians at September 14, 2016 06:38 PM (MlXgU)

202 Buffalo is pretty conservative, no ? no not the animal , Buffalo NY

Posted by: incorrigible runner at September 14, 2016 06:38 PM (c6/9Q)

203 It's funny how whenever Trump is down in the polls, there's a certain, same crowd that shows up and gets quite a kick with the "I told you so's!" and how it was impossible for Trump to win, blah blah, you deserve this ass kicking, blah blah.

And when he's up in the polls with some good news? They're nowhere to be found. Strangely.


I'm not going to believe this election is won or lost until election night regardless of what the polls say.

Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 06:39 PM (RbF5Z)

204 OT: CNN quotes GOP Rep. saying RNC was hacked by Russians.

CNN panel notes that the Ruskies haven't released any GOP emails. Hinting that Putin is indeed trying to elect Trump.

This will drive the news over the next few days.

Posted by: CJ at September 14, 2016 06:39 PM (UjWEn)

205 Wait whut? It's my understanding that if we don't protect Estonia at all costs we are bunch of deplorable pigs.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 14, 2016 06:37 PM (d76uN)
---------------

Who needs allies? If we bow low enough to Putin, surely he'll ignore us.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:39 PM (mFkVC)

206 Heat.

Dehydration.

Pneumonia.

Flu.

.............

Flatulence

Incontinence

Alcoholism

Posted by: wth at September 14, 2016 06:39 PM (HgMAr)

207 "I got all that - after my heart attack."



Sorry, berg.


Do these symptoms build any pattern for you?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:39 PM (iyWqN)

208 If it does, I'll suck my cock.

If you can actually do that JJ ... you're wasting your time on this blog.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (fiGNd)

209 >>> I'm really starting to think Trump is a bona fide Black Swan event

100% agree

this is crazy

Posted by: Max Power at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (q177U)

210 Two days ago the National Enquirer in the grocery store told me Hillary! is suffering from liver disease, among other ailments.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (1ZOkK)

211 A medical doctor would never lie. Their reputation means too much to them. You can trust Hillary's doctor.

(to himself, under his breath: "Damn!")

Posted by: Krauthammer at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (fgOnp)

212 Ni !

Posted by: the knights of Ni at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (c6/9Q)

213 "Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 14, 2016 06:35 PM (64GmR) "

Also, people who don't like Trump *really* don't like him. Whereas Romney and McCain? Eh, the MSM says they're dumb racists, so the left will buy into it, but they inspired very little passion.

It's like that scene in the Citizen Kane of our generation, Private Parts, when Paul Giamatti's character (Pig Vomit) is asking about Howard Stern's listener feedback. The people who liked him listened for an average of, IIRC, an hour and 10 mins. Biggest reason given - "I want to hear what he says next"

The people who hated him listened for an average of an hour and 30 mins. Biggest reason given - "I want to hear what he says next."

(That's taken from memory from a movie I saw 20 years ago, but I think it was around those numbers)

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (kumBu)

214 Now I'm admittedly proTrump but I also predicted that Trump would hit about 1300 delegates in early March though I overestimated Cruz count at 700

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (BS8yt)

215 "I would rather not have to vote for her, although she is a friend I respect. A 70-year person with a long track record, unbridled ambition, greedy,not [sic] transformational, with a husband still d**king bimbos at home (according to the NYP)."

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (4rXjl)

216 Buffalo is pretty conservative, no ? no not the animal , Buffalo NY
Posted by: incorrigible runner at September 14, 2016 06:38 PM (c6/9Q)


Well not really. It was a heavy Union town and it si NOT that big. The conservative vote in NY comes from Upstate, but NOT Upstate Cities like Buffalo, Syracuse, or Rochester.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (Ozsfq)

217 Bullseye on 200

Posted by: Yo! at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (uPt3V)

218 Who needs allies? If we bow low enough to Putin, surely he'll ignore us.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:39 PM (mFkVC)

++++

Didn't work for Obama. Maybe he didn't bow low enough.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (R+30W)

219


Steve Hayes made quasi list:

nothing wrong
cough
allergies
dehydrated
overheated
pneumonia
flu

(he missed the contagious, everyone in the campaign had it)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (qCMvj)

220 208 If it does, I'll suck my cock.

If you can actually do that JJ ... you're wasting your time on this blog.
Posted by: ScoggDog at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (fiGNd)


Muli-tasking, my friend.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (9P3OG)

221 Fit to serve? I want a second opinion...

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 14, 2016 06:41 PM (O2RFr)

222 Queue up the Culture Club song It's a Miracle

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at September 14, 2016 06:41 PM (m3iiU)

223 And when he's up in the polls with some good news? They're nowhere to be found. Strangely.


I'm not going to believe this election is won or lost until election night regardless of what the polls say.
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 06:39 PM (RbF5Z)

[jumps up and down]

I'm still here to annoy you! Trump is going to win!

And then comes the "fun."

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:41 PM (mFkVC)

224 Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:39 PM (mFkVC)

You really should look up this "hook, line, sinker," stuff.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 14, 2016 06:42 PM (d76uN)

225 64 43 At this rate, Trump will be campaigning in Staten Island and Queens in early October...

His numbers in Staten Island were insane. I think I might be the only person in my entire precinct who voted for Cruz.
Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at September 14, 2016 06:17 PM (T9DQN)

I was wondering about that....if he does really well in Staten Island and Queens would that be enough to offset Manhattan and the Brooklyn hipsters...and if it does, could it effect the pull NYC has on the rest of the state?

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 14, 2016 06:42 PM (P8951)

226 Heat.

Dehydration.

Pneumonia.

Flu.



Can somebody get their stories together?


Can't wait for version 4 of her medical records, either. Should be a doozy!

Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2016 06:42 PM (F1ndw)

227 "If it does, I'll suck my cock."


Will this be on pay-per-view?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 14, 2016 06:42 PM (iyWqN)

228 153 NOTHING MATTERS UNTIL AFTER LABOR DAY AND LABOR DAY FALLS AT THE END OF OCTOBER!
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 14, 2016 06:31 PM (4ErVI)

Halloween has always been a busy night for us.

Posted by: Barak and The Totalitarians at September 14, 2016 06:42 PM (MlXgU)

229 Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (Ozsfq)

oh, i see - the "big city" problem

Posted by: incorrigible runner at September 14, 2016 06:42 PM (c6/9Q)

230 "Fit to serve? I want a second opinion...

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 14, 2016 06:41 PM (O2RFr) "

It's a cookbook!11!!

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 06:42 PM (kumBu)

231 Didn't work for Obama. Maybe he didn't bow low enough.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 14, 2016 06:40 PM (R+30W)
------------------

Well, Trump will continue Obama's rollback of US power, but he'll add in more admiration for totalitarians. So maybe that will make it work.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:43 PM (mFkVC)

232 I wouldn't count on NY state, I hope Trump's ego doesn't make him think it's winnable and spend resources there.


It is crazy though that it wasn't that long ago when states like New Jersey, New York and Illinois weren't automatic blue states at the Presidential level.

Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 06:43 PM (RbF5Z)

233 I'm telling you....
Next up is the hacked Clinton porn

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 14, 2016 06:43 PM (WuI38)

234 I'm going to do something that really matters.

I'm voting for Johnson.

Posted by: High in Hawaii at September 14, 2016 06:43 PM (s0t8a)

235 I was wondering about that....if he does really well in Staten Island and Queens would that be enough to offset Manhattan and the Brooklyn hipsters...and if it does, could it effect the pull NYC has on the rest of the state?
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 14, 2016 06:42 PM (P8951)

Short answer NO
Any "R" to win in NY State has to do well in Upstate NY and Long Island to off set the NYC and Down State

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:43 PM (Ozsfq)

236 Now I'm admittedly proTrump

*******


Nooo!

Posted by: Obi Wan rooting for The Battle of Stalingrad at September 14, 2016 06:44 PM (fi5nC)

237 Muli-tasking, my friend.

You are one pervy old dude ... I'd really like to buy you a brew sometime.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 14, 2016 06:44 PM (fiGNd)

238 2 Remember when Mitt was leading in Florida by 5%?
------------

Hell, I can remember back when Al Gore won Florida.

Posted by: Roy at September 14, 2016 06:44 PM (fWLrt)

239 The day Cruz went down I told my wife "I think Trump could actually win this thing".

And every day has convinced me more. Even the 'scandals'.

Guy and his staff know exactly what they're doing. Granny McFaceplant is going down hard.

Posted by: esch at September 14, 2016 06:44 PM (m75mf)

240
My son and over half the Marines he served with never got their ballots.

I raised hell about it here, and it did no good.
-----------------

I remember Bob Novak wrote about this right before the 2008 election. Everyone is always too busy to fix it.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at September 14, 2016 06:44 PM (5o5ek)

241 I have said from the point of the 2d debate that Trump was in (not sure what debate that was, I forget, so much has happened) - that Trump could win. Not that it was a sure thing, but he could win.

Everyone is unelectable. Until they get elected.

Posted by: blaster at September 14, 2016 06:44 PM (ACqhm)

242 Queue up the Culture Club song It's a Miracle

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at September 14, 2016 06:41 PM (m3iiU)
..........

I belive in miracles
Where you from, you sexy thing?

Posted by: Hot Chocolate at September 14, 2016 06:44 PM (HgMAr)

243 As a lifetime New Yorker, with an 8 year stint in LA in between, I guarantee that Trump will not be winning NY State. Much as I wish he could it just ain't gonna happen.

If it does, I'll suck my cock.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
****

Please let Trump win NY. I need some "relief" IYKWIM.

Posted by: JJ's Rooster at September 14, 2016 06:45 PM (+aCe4)

244 Even with his great year of leading the majors in ERA so far, he might rank third in Cy Young votes just on his own team.

That Clayton Richards guy in San Diego looks pretty amazing, too. I see good things for him.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:45 PM (39g3+)

245 35 >>>12 i still think the child care proposal was a mistake. maybe it will peel off some female voters and we're seeing it in these polls. i doubt it but i'm no political savant.

comes at a bad time, too, when he could, theoretically, actually unify more of the GOP behind him. But now he has this liberal entitlement to tell them "You were right the first time."

Posted by: ace

Hillary's lead in women called for something.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 14, 2016 06:45 PM (iWW0H)

246 Wonder what Thad Cochran thinks about all this...

Posted by: Yo! at September 14, 2016 06:45 PM (uPt3V)

247 Oh, I just had a touch of the flu also.

Posted by: Vince Foster at September 14, 2016 06:45 PM (1JnAL)

248 232
It is crazy though that it wasn't that long ago when states like New Jersey, New York and Illinois weren't automatic blue states at the Presidential level.
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 06:43 PM (RbF5Z)


What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: California at September 14, 2016 06:45 PM (sdi6R)

249 Mrs. Clinton would die before giving up her last shot at the Whitehouse. Dems can try to sell her on "do it for the good of the people or the country" or "you'll forever be the martyr who gave up the most for the country" or "you can step aside and avoid a humiliating loss". It won't fly. She's in the driver's seat and won't take her foot off the gas.

Posted by: B I N G O at September 14, 2016 06:46 PM (xQhxo)

250 Heads may explode on national television like Scanners.



Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:28 PM (39g3+)



Well at least you didn't say Dealey Plaza.

Posted by: JFK at September 14, 2016 06:46 PM (JO9+V)

251 Let's see if the press start repeating the flu lie since they take her word on everything.

I'm sure she is livid that the video is everywhere. This makes me happy. She must have been a joy to be around when she found out there was video footage of her face planting and being thrown into a van.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 14, 2016 06:46 PM (6IPEM)

252 Hell, I can remember back when Al Gore won Florida.

Posted by: Roy at September 14, 2016 06:44 PM (fWLrt)
uuuuuge win

Posted by: incorrigible runner at September 14, 2016 06:46 PM (c6/9Q)

253
Hillary's lead in women called for something.



Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 14, 2016 06:45 PM (iWW0H)

MOAR IDENTITY POLITICS! This time we can outbid the Democrats! I just know it!

Posted by: Donald Trump's Brain Trust at September 14, 2016 06:46 PM (gXKl3)

254 Queue up the Culture Club song It's a Miracle

----------------
Then Fleetwood Mac "Landslide"

Posted by: Roy at September 14, 2016 06:47 PM (fWLrt)

255 I'm so old I can remember when Republican presidents praised dictators.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 14, 2016 06:47 PM (BS8yt)

256 Mrs. Clinton would die before giving up her last shot at the Whitehouse.




You're on!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2016 06:47 PM (cHbIE)

257 >>> Wonder what Thad Cochran thinks about all this...

That's one pretty sheep!

Posted by: Thad Cochran's thought balloon at September 14, 2016 06:48 PM (eiFlk)

258 203 It's funny how whenever Trump is down in the polls, there's a certain, same crowd that shows up and gets quite a kick with the "I told you so's!" and how it was impossible for Trump to win, blah blah, you deserve this ass kicking, blah blah.

And when he's up in the polls with some good news? They're nowhere to be found. Strangely.


I'm not going to believe this election is won or lost until election night regardless of what the polls say.
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 06:39 PM (RbF5Z

Probably should wait until the Inauguration.

Posted by: Barak and The Totalitarians at September 14, 2016 06:48 PM (MlXgU)

259 Yeah, NY is a trap. Just win OH, PA, NC and FL and that's the race. MI and a few others would be gravy.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 06:48 PM (kumBu)

260 "As a lifetime New Yorker, with an 8 year stint in LA in between, I guarantee that Trump will not be winning NY State. Much as I wish he could it just ain't gonna happen."

I did a quick county by county spreadsheet way back starting with prior election results, including the last Governor's contest. It'd be hard for Trump to win NY but he has a shot. Low black turnout, and high upstate turnout and its starts to get close.

Hillary is no longer a NYer. Trump obviously is. That can make a difference.

Just contesting NY will drive MSM insane, and have knock-on effects. It won't just be the fly-over rubes who are revolting.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2016 06:48 PM (r1fLd)

261
Mrs. Clinton would die before giving up her last shot at the Whitehouse.


I'm prepared to accept that offer.

Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2016 06:48 PM (F1ndw)

262 Well, Trump will continue Obama's rollback of US power, but he'll add in more admiration for totalitarians. So maybe that will make it work.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:43 PM (mFkVC)

++++

Donald J. Trump on Wednesday called for a vast expansion of the military, including 90,000 new soldiers for the Army and nearly 75 new ships for the Navy, requiring up to $90 billion a year in additional spending.

[...]

In addition to increasing the Army to 540,000 soldiers and adding the Navy ships, Mr. Trump proposed buying dozens of new fighter aircraft for the Air Force.

To pay for the expansion, Mr. Trump said he would call on Congress to reverse the cuts to military spending made as part of the budget sequester in 2013, which was the result of a compromise reached between Democrats and Republicans.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/08/us/
politics/donald-trump-speech.html

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 14, 2016 06:48 PM (R+30W)

263 Too early for a gun thread ?

Trick question ... it's never too early.

I think I'm going to seal the deal with this Mini Thirty.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 14, 2016 06:48 PM (fiGNd)

264 Buffoon > Criminal

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 14, 2016 06:48 PM (rwI+c)

265 I belive in miracles
Where you from, you sexy thing?



Blast from the past.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 14, 2016 06:49 PM (cHbIE)

266 She must have been a joy to be around when she found out there was video footage of her face planting and being thrown into a van.

Other than her stand in outside the building, has Hillary been seen anywhere public since then? I'm not sure she's even vertical at this point.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:49 PM (39g3+)

267 comes at a bad time, too, when he could, theoretically, actually unify more of the GOP behind him. But now he has this liberal entitlement to tell them "You were right the first time."

Posted by: ace



I really don't think these holdouts are doing so for policy reasons. But they will pretend that's why because they don't want to admit it's mostly an emotional decision, so something relatively small like maternity leave will be trotted out.

Yet these same "pure" people thought nothing of lining up behind the architect of ObamaCare and vote Romney.

Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 06:49 PM (RbF5Z)

268 I'm going to do something that really matters.

I'm voting for Johnson.

Posted by: High in Hawaii at September 14, 2016 06:43 PM (s0t8a)


Dude! Hang loose, mon.

Posted by: Akaw! at September 14, 2016 06:49 PM (qCMvj)

269 I'm surprised Camp Hillary! hasn't advanced the idea that her recent seizure wasn't a seizure at all, but rather a hyper-focused yoga super-concentration, um, trance!

Posted by: Weasel at September 14, 2016 06:13 PM (Sfs6o)


There was no seizure, there was no event, they didn't throw her into the van like a sack of potatoes a side of beef. Hillary simply stumbled and the trusty SS man and her doctor aide assisted her into the van.

Posted by: gNewt....StopIt Susan at September 14, 2016 06:49 PM (4/5px)

270
255 well democracy is unpossible in the Mid East .

That has been recently proven.

There is a reason that region was full of dictators

Posted by: Yo! at September 14, 2016 06:49 PM (uPt3V)

271 CNN: Rep. Mike McCaul (R-Texas) says RNC was hacked. RNC says no data breach. CNN boners currently set to FULL.

Posted by: CJ at September 14, 2016 06:50 PM (UjWEn)

272 "Well at least you didn't say Dealey Plaza.

Posted by: JFK at September 14, 2016 06:46 PM (JO9+V) "

Or R. Budd Dwyer. Now there's a guy who powered through a press conference.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 06:50 PM (kumBu)

273 "Mrs. Clinton would die before giving up her last shot at the Whitehouse..."

Don't tease.

Posted by: Qoheleth at September 14, 2016 06:50 PM (iIzG7)

274 I think I'm going to seal the deal with this Mini Thirty.

I honestly don't see the attraction. IMO, x39 is just not that good a round. I shoot it because I like the AK platform and that's what is most common, but if I were going with a different action, I'd use a different caliber.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 14, 2016 06:50 PM (rwI+c)

275 The depths of her insatiable greed, lust for power, and venality are really frightening. I think I will be more upset if she wins than I was both times with Barky.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 14, 2016 06:51 PM (6IPEM)

276
I agree with the others who say her river dance of death was the turning point, which is ironic in that her years of corruption and lying never even seemed to bother them.

Nevertheless, Flaminco everyone, flaminco.

for now.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 14, 2016 06:51 PM (ODxAs)

277 Yet these same "pure" people thought nothing of lining up behind the architect of ObamaCare and vote Romney.

Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 06:49 PM (RbF5Z)


using "states" decide as an excuse

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 06:51 PM (qCMvj)

278 It is crazy though that it wasn't that long ago when states like New Jersey, New York and Illinois weren't automatic blue states at the Presidential level.
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 06:43 PM (RbF5Z)

What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: California


California was largely considered a red state in those days.

Even into the 90's, Clinton supposedly was terrified he would lose it.

It really wasn't that long ago.

Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 06:51 PM (RbF5Z)

279 Posted by: person(a non grata)

Ah, the severely-conservative troll, the stalwart constitutionalist who somehow can't muster the energy to say word one about Hillary, is back.

Your schtick is played-out, shithead.

Posted by: FOAD at September 14, 2016 06:51 PM (U5sOj)

280 I really don't think these holdouts are doing so for policy reasons. But they will pretend that's why because they don't want to admit it's mostly an emotional decision, so something relatively small like maternity leave will be trotted out.

Yet these same "pure" people thought nothing of lining up behind the architect of ObamaCare and vote Romney.

Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 06:49 PM (RbF5Z)

Bingo. And the Bushies with NCLB, filling the doughnut hole, pushing amnesty, etc. Their policy arguments are disingenuous. It's personal, it's about themselves and their positions.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 14, 2016 06:52 PM (fgOnp)

281 >>The Democrats love power a hell of a lot more than they love Granny "Shakes" McFaceplant.

We have been pretty open about this the past 100 years on a global level.

Posted by: Barak and The Totalitarians at September 14, 2016 06:52 PM (MlXgU)

282 I think I will be more upset if she wins than I was both times with Barky.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 14, 2016 06:51 PM (6IPEM)


Well so would I and that is because Fredo has already done so much damage to America, that I am afraid we can not absorb any more from likes of her.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:52 PM (Ozsfq)

283 I predict the RNC hack will show a lot a back-stabbing and vitriol from the GOP against Trump.

IOW, nothing new.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at September 14, 2016 06:52 PM (onq2p)

284 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 14, 2016 06:48 PM (R+30W)

There ya go. Destroying the narrative. Hope no Estonians were caught in the counter battery fire.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 14, 2016 06:52 PM (d76uN)

285 >> What am I, chopped liver?
>> Posted by: California

As a Californian, I'd have to say, yes.

Actually, you're shredded bean curd chopped liver.

I'd love to hear possible scenarios wherein Trump takes California.

MS-13 starts shooting up Facebook white buses on 101?

Hillary faceplants into the couscous at a Sergey Brin fundraiser?

Sweet Meteorite of Selective Destruction returns Beverly Hills to its 1900 state?

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 06:52 PM (TppKb)

286 Wonder what Thad Cochran thinks about all this...
Posted by: Yo!

Beep-beep

beep-beep

beep-beep

Posted by: Thad Cpchran, impersonating Christopher Pikr at September 14, 2016 06:52 PM (RFeQD)

287

Trump needs to push her buttons at the debates. Make her blow up. She is the one that flies off the handle. Sounds like she has a horrible temper.

Poke the hippo, Donald. Poke the hippo of good health.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 06:53 PM (qCMvj)

288 Ah, the severely-conservative troll, the stalwart constitutionalist who somehow can't muster the energy to say word one about Hillary, is back.

Your schtick is played-out, shithead.
Posted by: FOAD at September 14, 2016 06:51 PM (U5sOj)

Bravo!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:53 PM (Ozsfq)

289 240
My son and over half the Marines he served with never got their ballots.

I raised hell about it here, and it did no good.
-----------------

I remember Bob Novak wrote about this right before the 2008 election. Everyone is always too busy to fix it.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at September 14, 2016 06:44 PM (5o5ek)

and yet every US Navy ship USED to have a very junior Officer.... who had the collateral duty of Voting Assistance Officer...

Do they still even exist?

Posted by: Don Q. at September 14, 2016 06:53 PM (qf6WZ)

290 The reaction on Fox to the reading of Powell's email where he said Bubba was still porking women in NY was priceless.

All this hacking is going to cause some serious black swan events.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 06:54 PM (/tuJf)

291 "Your schtick is played-out, shithead.

Posted by: FOAD at September 14, 2016 06:51 PM (U5sOj) "

He's not 100% wrong. The real "fun" comes after Trump wins and we get to see if he follows through on *any* of the shit he campaigned on.

Even if he doesn't, it's a win because he kept Hillary out/keeps the SCOTUS from flipping liberal for the next century. But as far as AoS dick waggling goes, the game doesn't end on election day.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 06:54 PM (kumBu)

292 6 Bill call former SOS Rice a "girl." Imagine if Trump had called ANY African-American female a "girl." Yeah, that.
Posted by: ever at September 14, 2016 06:08 PM (kronK)


What does it matter, you ignorant, flyover rubes?

We not only own you, we're going to legislate you out of existence.

How do you like them apples?

-----Department of Education/Environmental Protection Agency/Department of JUSTICE.

Justice. Let that sink in......

Posted by: Deplorable 98ZJUSMC at September 14, 2016 06:54 PM (5UjJX)

293 279 Posted by: person(a non grata)

Ah, the severely-conservative troll, the stalwart constitutionalist who somehow can't muster the energy to say word one about Hillary, is back.

Your schtick is played-out, shithead.
Posted by: FOAD at September 14, 2016 06:51 PM (U5sOj)



Allow me to summarize every post he has made this week/month/season.

"Trump is bad! Trump is awful! Trump is the devil! Alt Right! Alt Right Alt Right! Putin!"

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 06:54 PM (z/Ubi)

294

I'm wondering what final card Assange will play.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 06:55 PM (qCMvj)

295 California....

80% of all legal immigrants since 1965 vote D

Posted by: Yo! at September 14, 2016 06:55 PM (uPt3V)

296 New Jersey residents suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder can be legally treated with marijuana under a law signed Wednesday by Governor Christie, the first expansion of the states medical marijuana program since it began six years ago.


LOL

So now when I get out of the Navy, I have something to look forward to!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 06:55 PM (Ozsfq)

297
I'd love to hear possible scenarios wherein Trump takes California.


There isn't one

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at September 14, 2016 06:55 PM (lKyWE)

298 I honestly don't see the attraction.

Glad you chimed in. Tell me what you think.

I've got, literally, 1000 rounds of Wolf MilSpec. I've got an SKS. Never really liked the SKS ... stripper clips top loaded, wood stock, and such. I just don't "handle" it good.

I've got a Mini-14. I shoot 2 MOA with it. I really, really, really like every damn thing about it. I would say I'm proficient at it ... Minute of Chest ... to 300 yards.

Hence ... Mini Thirty. Looked at the CZ. Nice rifle - but I'm thinking Auto Loader and the CZ also only has five round mags. At least that I found.

Thoughts ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 14, 2016 06:55 PM (fiGNd)

299 Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 06:51 PM (RbF5Z)

Illegals breed American citizens.

Posted by: Golfman at September 14, 2016 06:55 PM (48QDY)

300 Mrs. Clinton would die before giving up her last shot at the Whitehouse.



Her proposal is acceptable.

Posted by: Edgar (Bug) at September 14, 2016 06:55 PM (JO9+V)

301 290
The reaction on Fox to the reading of Powell's email where he said Bubba was still porking women in NY was priceless.



They giggled like little kids on the playground.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:55 PM (1ZOkK)

302 Poke the hippo, Donald. Poke the hippo of good health.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 06:53 PM (qCMvj)


Yeah, pardon this visual, but Trump is going to schlong Hillary.

Posted by: blaster at September 14, 2016 06:56 PM (ACqhm)

303 There ya go. Destroying the narrative. Hope no Estonians were caught in the counter battery fire.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 14, 2016 06:52 PM (d76uN)
---------------------------

On the one hand, Trump will abandon our allies and leave a nice big worldwide void to be filled with Russian (which he vociferously supports) and Chinese power. We'll all withdraw into the kind of cozy, isolationist shell that worked so well in the 20s.

On the other hand, he'll build up the military so we're all nice and ready for the inevitable world war that follows.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:56 PM (mFkVC)

304
I predict the RNC hack will show a lot a back-stabbing and vitriol from the GOP against Trump.

IOW, nothing new.



IOW, a typical issue of National Review.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2016 06:57 PM (IqV8l)

305 >> He's not 100% wrong. The real "fun" comes after
>> Trump wins and we get to see if he follows through
>> on *any* of the shit he campaigned on.

This.

But, hey, two reasonable Supreme Court justices and a couple sane Cabinet appointments would be better than anything we'd get from Hillary.

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 06:57 PM (TppKb)

306 Does a slight lead in state polls matter if you don't have a GOTV operation?

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at September 14, 2016 06:57 PM (sjMdG)

307 On the other hand, he'll build up the military so we're all nice and ready for the inevitable world war that follows.
Posted by: person(a non grata)

Oh, blow it out your..... whatever...

Posted by: deplorable donna at September 14, 2016 06:57 PM (O2RFr)

308 I wonder if any other Doctors who aren't being paid immense sums by Hillary but may be Democrats still think this conduct is unethical?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2016 06:57 PM (EnGQE)

309 So... what's the plan for keeping some spark of Constitutionalism alive for the 12 to 20 years during which Trump is the most Conservative president?

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:21 PM (mFkVC)


Nice burning straw man you got going there. I don't recall anyone making the argument that he was Conservative. He is a JFK-era Democrat: loves America and hates her enemies. He is where he is in the campaign because all the Republican contenders yielded the nationalism battle-space to him.

Frankly, you are fvkcing tedious. OK, you hate Donald Trump but you have nothing else substantive to say.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 14, 2016 06:57 PM (5Yee7)

310 I'm wondering what final card Assange will play.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 06:55 PM (qCMvj)


E-mails of Billy Jeff requesting preteen girls on Pedo Island?

Nah, the Beast's fans wouldn't care.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:57 PM (1ZOkK)

311 Even if he doesn't, it's a win because he kept Hillary out/keeps the SCOTUS from flipping liberal for the next century. But as far as AoS dick waggling goes, the game doesn't end on election day.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 06:54 PM (kumBu)



Yes. If for nothing else, ....that!

Posted by: Deplorable 98ZJUSMC at September 14, 2016 06:57 PM (5UjJX)

312 I don't think Trump will take Pennsylvania, but I do think he will take Michigan

He will not take Wisconsin

And at least one state in New England besides New Hampshire (Maine?)

Colorado is a toss-up right now, because it has been Californicated. New Mexico a maybe.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 14, 2016 06:58 PM (RFeQD)

313 I played around with several variations of the electoral map, taking into account the most recent polls and being very generous on giving states to Trump that he's still currently behind in.

I can find a way he wins. Even assuming FL and OH both go his way, the Democrats come out of the gate with a substantial electoral advantage without trying.

Posted by: Damiano at September 14, 2016 06:58 PM (71OEY)

314
On the one hand, Trump will abandon our allies and leave a nice big worldwide void to be filled with Russian (which he vociferously supports) and Chinese power. We'll all withdraw into the kind of cozy, isolationist shell that worked so well in the 20s.

Obama has already done that.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at September 14, 2016 06:58 PM (lKyWE)

315 Thoughts ?

Have you considered getting a straight up AK for your stockpile?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 14, 2016 06:58 PM (rwI+c)

316 Here's hoping that Trump's October Surprise is a tax data release that shows him to be one of the yoogest philanthropists in American history.

But of course, the media would continually say it was all just part of his master plan to become the next adolf hitler.



Posted by: Fast Eddie, D. Th., Church of the Everlasting Biblical Loophole at September 14, 2016 06:58 PM (4bjXi)

317 >>>I think I will be more upset if she wins than I was both times with Barky.


I am NEVER going to flip out like I did in 2012. I was literally gobsmacked that Romney lost. I "didn't know what I didn't know." I'm just gonna nod my head in a cynical (and cool looking) way and break out the Value-rite.

Posted by: Max Power at September 14, 2016 06:58 PM (q177U)

318 All you guys thinking it will be close and whether this state or that state might flip seem to have forgotten what happened just four days ago in NYC.

How does Hillary get out there and campaign? It's not physically possible. Give her too many pep pills and she will collapse again. She can't hide for two months and can't campaign.

And, even before her collapse on 9-11, did you see the "crowd" that showed up for her at that Baptist convention? It was pitiful.

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at September 14, 2016 06:58 PM (m40v5)

319
We'll all withdraw into the kind of cozy, isolationist shell that worked so well in the 20s.

The roaring 20's? I wish.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2016 06:59 PM (IqV8l)

320 The latest bit Wikileaks things has two parts:

1) Huge pay for play by the Democrats to get ambassadorial positions - not really news because I think everyone is aware that's how its always worked with donors.
2) Democrats were aware their email system had been hacked, so they sent out a new email WITH THE NEW PASSWORD IN IT to warn people about it.

That one... good lord, how incredibly clueless can you possibly be?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:59 PM (39g3+)

321 308 I wonder if any other Doctors who aren't being paid immense sums by Hillary but may be Democrats still think this conduct is unethical?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2016 06:57 PM (EnGQE)

Naw.

Posted by: The Clinton Foundation et al at September 14, 2016 07:00 PM (48QDY)

322 295 California....

80% of all legal immigrants since 1965 vote D

Posted by: Yo! at September 14, 2016 06:55 PM (uPt3V)


Actually??? I had Jury duty here in Central Calif twice this year... once State, once Fed...

My county is 26.8% non Hispanic White, 9% Black...

Yet at least 90% of the people in both jury pools (a couple hundred a day) were White or Black.

Now, as the Jury pool is taken directly from the Voter rolls here.... I wonder how many Hispanics are actually registered to vote at all.

Posted by: Don Q. at September 14, 2016 07:00 PM (qf6WZ)

323 318 All you guys thinking it will be close and whether this state or that state might flip seem to have forgotten what happened just four days ago in NYC.

How does Hillary get out there and campaign? It's not physically possible. Give her too many pep pills and she will collapse again. She can't hide for two months and can't campaign.

And, even before her collapse on 9-11, did you see the "crowd" that showed up for her at that Baptist convention? It was pitiful.
Posted by: Soulpatchtony at September 14, 2016 06:58 PM (m40v5)


Of course to be fair, Hillary probably does do better the less people see of her.

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 07:00 PM (z/Ubi)

324 'If it does, I'll suck my cock.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton '


How ya doin?

Posted by: The Chicken at September 14, 2016 07:00 PM (BO/km)

325 ...some spark of Constitutionalism alive for the 12 to 20 years during which Trump is the most Conservative president?

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:21 PM (mFkVC)


What spark of "constitutionalism" are you referring to?

Oh, hell with that..... Fuck You.

Posted by: Deplorable 98ZJUSMC at September 14, 2016 07:01 PM (5UjJX)

326 Lena Dunham is threatening to leave the country. I wonder who will take her?
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 06:34 PM (1ZOkK)

Depends on who really needs an organ/bone/tissue donor and some truly iffy, but, plentiful skin for skin grafts...

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil heart at September 14, 2016 07:01 PM (kXoT0)

327 Well, tomorrow should prove interesting.

Trump on Dr. Oz, and Hillary pretending to be well out in public for the first time in days.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 07:01 PM (1ZOkK)

328 On the other hand, he'll build up the military so we're all nice and ready for the inevitable world war that follows.
Posted by: person(a non grata)


Which war is that?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 07:01 PM (qCMvj)

329 >> On the one hand, Trump will abandon our allies and
>> leave a nice big worldwide void to be filled with
>> Russian (which he vociferously supports) and
>> Chinese power. We'll all withdraw into the kind of
>> cozy, isolationist shell that worked so well in the
>> 20s.

'Abandon our allies'.

Obama's already abandoning our allies, all over the world. He's facilitated Nork and Iranian nukes, he'll do nothing meaningful (that is, economic) to stop China's expansion in the Pacific. He thinks European demographic suicide is a good thing.

Hillary was a key player in all this crap, and the military Brownian motion that defined our Mideast policy.

Too many of our allies are abandoning us anyway. How many operational tanks do the Germans have? It's about time we gave NATO a little tough love.

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 07:01 PM (TppKb)

330 Even if he doesn't, it's a win because he kept Hillary out/keeps the SCOTUS from flipping liberal for the next century. But as far as AoS dick waggling goes, the game doesn't end on election day.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at September 14, 2016 06:54 PM (kumBu)

The SCOTUS will flip liberal anyway. Trump's choices will likely be "moderates" of the sort who always seem to vote lib on the important issues. They sure won't be Constitutionalists or anyone concerned with limiting executive power.

And lets play a little game. Let's say, whoever wins, the Senate is divided 50/50. Now, let's pretend that Trump and Clinton each propose the same big government child leave plan. The bill passes under both presidents, but which president gets more Senators to vote for it? I'd wager Trump, since he gives lots of cover to all the go-along-to-get-along GOPers.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:01 PM (mFkVC)

331 Ignore the troll and it will leave

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 07:01 PM (Ozsfq)

332 Oh, the other big wikileaks: proof the "anti-Trump" protests were faked.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 07:02 PM (39g3+)

333 I'd love to hear possible scenarios wherein Trump takes California.


There isn't one
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic


No one was making that case.

I will say, I have family with a place in Southern California it definitely has a big Trump following, far more than I would have guessed.

Signs on businesses, overpasses, t shirts, etc.

They really are Ground Zero for illegal immigration, but that ship sailed.

Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 07:02 PM (RbF5Z)

334 Sometimes, when I'm not on the Internet and I'm just sitting alone, thinking, my thoughts become overwhelming and I briefly lose consciousness. I attribute this to the inadequacy of my brain to contain a mind as enormous and dynamic such as mine.

If I were to guess, I'd say that Mrs. Clinton has the same problem: a biological vessel too frail to transport her godlike spirit and intellect.

Posted by: WaterCow at September 14, 2016 07:02 PM (jJ6Ws)

335 And, even before her collapse on 9-11, did you
see the "crowd" that showed up for her at that Baptist convention? It
was pitiful.

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at September 14, 2016 06:58 PM (m40v5)



Of course to be fair, Hillary probably does do better the less people see of her.

Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 07:00 PM (z/Ubi)


Her appeal is becoming much more selective.

Posted by: Ian Faith at September 14, 2016 07:02 PM (JO9+V)

336 This sick day business may be working for Hillary - she does better when people can't see her, and she has the President, the First Lady, and her husband who are all more popular than she is campaigning.

Posted by: blaster at September 14, 2016 07:03 PM (ACqhm)

337 Of course to be fair, Hillary probably does do better the less people see of her.
Posted by: buzzion at September 14, 2016 07:00 PM (z/Ubi)


She can longer play that hide and seek game.

She is now tagged as too ill to campaign, so she must come out from under her coward rock.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 07:03 PM (qCMvj)

338 Puppet Show and Hillary Clinton

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 14, 2016 07:03 PM (rwI+c)

339 I'd love to hear possible scenarios wherein Trump takes California.


There isn't one
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at September 14, 2016 06:55 PM (lKyWE)

There is one - Dem voters feel betrayed because days before the election, Hillary faceplants, her numbers in all the other states crater, and they feel betrayed because "Bernie could have won" and either don't vote or vote for Stein.

As far as I know, none of the propositions this year are that important, and the senate race is between two dems so who cares? Zombie and other CA people, what say you?

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at September 14, 2016 07:03 PM (m40v5)

340 Have you considered getting a straight up AK for your stockpile?

Yep. But I hate ... absolutely hate ... a pistol grip.

I think it's because I shot alot as a kid - in the 70s. I hate a "straight" grip. I like the sweeping grip on a revolver, and I like the same sweep on a traditional rifle.

Weird, ain't it ? But it's true.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 14, 2016 07:03 PM (fiGNd)

341 You haven't even seen what I can do yet

Posted by: Assange at September 14, 2016 07:04 PM (ficNf)

342 As I said in the thread below, I wonder how "gently" the SS agents got her into the van?


Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 07:04 PM (1ZOkK)

343 Obama has already done that.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at September 14, 2016 06:58 PM (lKyWE)
-------------------------

To everyone who says this - you're absolutely right! It's important that we STOP DOING THAT!!!

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:04 PM (mFkVC)

344 >>And, even before her collapse on 9-11, did you see the "crowd" that showed up for her at that Baptist convention? It was pitiful.

The fact that Hillary is the worst Dem nominee in memory has always been Trump's best opportunity. And she keeps getting worse.

It definitely feels like he is ahead now.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 07:04 PM (/tuJf)

345 He has to hammer her over the head with the emails, the foundation pay for play, the constant lying, and Benghazi ad nauseum until she gets flustered and irritated and angry and a moderator has to help her and then call out the moderator. Thankfully he is going in expecting to be treated unfairly and that she will be treated with kid gloves. He doesn't need to say anything about policy just attack her and the media the whole time

Posted by: L, Elle at September 14, 2016 07:05 PM (6IPEM)

346 Which war is that?

You have to understand, he starts from the position that everything bad he can imagine, Trump will do or cause. Everything. War, pestilence, famine, tyranny, uneven tire wear, economic collapse, his wife cheating on him, everything.

There's nothing rational or systematic here. Its just total calumny and fear.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 07:06 PM (39g3+)

347 Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:56 PM (mFkVC)

Better stock up on MRE's then. I would avoid anything labeled "dehydrated" Most likely it's horsemeat. Now if you get the Trump Brand Horsemeat it's ok.

That stuff is pretty bigly if a bit deplorable to look at.

Not to mention it tastes fabulous.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 14, 2016 07:06 PM (d76uN)

348 Hillary's degenerative condition is so advanced she will either break a hip or blow out a cankle before the next witch's moon.

Make no mistake, she'll be wheelchair-bound by November, unless the eggheads at DARPA can cobble together a military-grade exo-skeletal apparatus to conceal her unholy decay.

Posted by: Fritz at September 14, 2016 07:06 PM (wOc4Q)

349 Let's play another thought game -

What do Conservatives do when/if Trump nominates a nice liberal "moderate" that can win with Dem support and a few spineless GOPers? What's the plan?

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:07 PM (mFkVC)

350 Yep. But I hate ... absolutely hate ... a pistol grip.

I think it's because I shot alot as a kid - in the 70s. I hate a "straight" grip. I like the sweeping grip on a revolver, and I like the same sweep on a traditional rifle.

Weird, ain't it ? But it's true.


Expensive but top of the AK line, Vepr Pioneer http://bit.ly/2cuYvpX

You can get some Saigas with a similar stock.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 14, 2016 07:07 PM (rwI+c)

351 341 You haven't even seen what I can do yet
Posted by: Assange at September 14, 2016 07:04 PM (ficNf)

Better do it before October 1st.

Posted by: Barak and The Totalitarians at September 14, 2016 07:07 PM (MlXgU)

352 Jesus what an asshole

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 07:07 PM (Ozsfq)

353 "uneven tire wear"

Oh noes!!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 14, 2016 07:07 PM (d76uN)

354 As far as I know, none of the propositions this year are that important, and the senate race is between two dems so who cares? Zombie and other CA people, what say you?

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at September 14, 2016 07:03 PM (m40v5)


Note, it was only a few years ago Calif had a Moderate Repub for Gov.

It was only a few years ago they voted against Gay Marriage.

And, except for Hollyweird and Sillycones Valley... NO Politicians come and talk to Calif.

If you cede that battle space, you will never take that ground... and the Repubs have ceded Calif for years.

Posted by: Don Q. at September 14, 2016 07:07 PM (qf6WZ)

355 It's important that we STOP DOING THAT!!!

By electing the Secretary of State who implemented that.

You sure are smart.

Posted by: said no one ever at September 14, 2016 07:08 PM (U5sOj)

356 There's nothing rational or systematic here. Its just total calumny and fear.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 07:06 PM (39g3+)
-----------------

No, what I do is listen to what Trump says, and not make up an imaginary Trump in my head to make myself feel better about voting for him.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:08 PM (mFkVC)

357 What do Conservatives do when/if Trump nominates a nice liberal "moderate" that can win with Dem support and a few spineless GOPers? What's the plan?

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:07 PM (mFkVC)


Look around for a Bearded Spock?

Posted by: Don Q. at September 14, 2016 07:09 PM (qf6WZ)

358 On the one hand, Trump will abandon our allies and leave a nice big worldwide void to be filled with Russian (which he vociferously supports) and Chinese power. We'll all withdraw into the kind of cozy, isolationist shell that worked so well in the 20s.

On the other hand, he'll build up the military so we're all nice and ready for the inevitable world war that follows.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 06:56 PM (mFkVC)


**************

History can repeat itself and the Russian stuff is weird.

Posted by: Obi Wan rooting for The Battle of Stalingrad at September 14, 2016 07:09 PM (fi5nC)

359 "What's the plan?"

Send in the Estonians! They'll take care of everything.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 14, 2016 07:09 PM (d76uN)

360
I will say, I have family with a place in Southern California it definitely has a big Trump following, far more than I would have guessed.


I'm guessing they live in Orange County or San Diego.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at September 14, 2016 07:09 PM (lKyWE)

361 And lets play a little game.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:01 PM (mFkVC)


Let's play another game.

How did we get here?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 07:09 PM (qCMvj)

362 109 >> However, the sight of her boarding AF1 on one of
>> those stair-rider thingies for old folks would be
>> almost worth it.

I figure more like a lift bucket.
Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 06:24 PM (TppKb)

55K loader

Posted by: Fox2! at September 14, 2016 07:10 PM (r5k3Z)

363 If anything, this election cycle (does it even actually cycle anymore or is a perpetual bullshit machine?) has proven how far the media is willing to go to forward their agenda by any means necessary. I hate to use a common lefty term but the willful dismissal of reality has been nothing short of alarming.

These people have actually succeeded in telling many in the public to not believe their lying eyes. It's down right scary.

Hillary, or any fellow leftist agenda driven friend of the media could shoot somebody in broad daylight and somehow we'd be getting 'analysis' from the likes of NPR CBS ABC etc...

Anytime I see 'analysis' from these dirt bags I know that it will spinning like a top for the lefty.

Posted by: melodicmetal at September 14, 2016 07:10 PM (ficNf)

364 By electing the Secretary of State who implemented that.

You sure are smart.
Posted by: said no one ever at September 14, 2016 07:08 PM (U5sOj)
-----------------------

I am assuming Trump wins. Because he's going to.

And I am asking how you and others intend to curb his many, many negative impulses.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:10 PM (mFkVC)

365 I will say, I have family with a place in Southern California it definitely has a big Trump following, far more than I would have guessed.


I'm guessing they live in Orange County or San Diego.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at September 14, 2016 07:09 PM (lKyWE)


same here
I think it's for another reason down there, from what I hear.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 07:10 PM (qCMvj)

366 This sick day business may be working for Hillary - she does better when people can't see her

I think at this point the more she hides away the more people talk about how she's clearly too ill to do the job. While its true she's her own worst enemy in terms of public perception, I don't think that can be played at this point.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 07:11 PM (39g3+)

367 And I am asking how you and others intend to curb his many, many negative impulses.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:10 PM (mFkVC)


you never have a point

so boring

yay, nood!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 14, 2016 07:11 PM (qCMvj)

368 Heads may explode on national television like Scanners.



Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 14, 2016 06:28 PM (39g3+)


Or local television.

Posted by: R. Bud Dwyer at September 14, 2016 07:13 PM (1JnAL)

369 330
The SCOTUS will flip liberal anyway. Trump's choices will likely be "moderates" of the sort who always seem to vote lib on the important issues. They sure won't be Constitutionalists or anyone concerned with limiting executive power.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:01 PM (mFkVC)


Recent history shows that to be true of most Republican nominees. And the Republican Senate always votes overwhelmingly to approve Democrat nominees.

Posted by: rickl at September 14, 2016 07:13 PM (sdi6R)

370 and not make up an imaginary Trump in my head

Like the one in Putin's pocket.

Yeah, you're not a serial liar or anything.

Posted by: keep flailing, shithead at September 14, 2016 07:13 PM (U5sOj)

371 A buddy of mine is a democrat voting for Trump, he says "I believe he'll pick good people to surround himself"

My response was: "thank God you're not voting for Hillary, but on what evidence?" ... it's all panic and hope, let's be honest about it.

Posted by: m-zero-x at September 14, 2016 07:13 PM (zWTYO)

372 I am assuming Trump wins. Because he's going to.

And I am asking how you and others intend to curb his many, many negative impulses.
Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:10 PM (mFkVC

You keep assuming we will go peaceful into the night and let go of power.

Posted by: Barak and The Totalitarians at September 14, 2016 07:14 PM (MlXgU)

373 Expensive but top of the AK line,

That is a handsome looking rifle ...

... but out of my range. $850 gets me the Mini Thirty, stainless and synthetic, with two mags.

The CZ USA 527 would be my dawg ... if it had a ten round mag. It's pretty much the Ruger Gunsite Scout chambered in 7.62x39. If they offered ten round mags - I'd already have one.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 14, 2016 07:14 PM (fiGNd)

374 October 15 Calavaras County Fair

Puppet Show

Hillary Clinton Campaign Stop

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at September 14, 2016 07:14 PM (HBC+3)

375 I am NEVER going to flip out like I did in 2012. I was literally gobsmacked that Romney lost. I "didn't know what I didn't know." I'm just gonna nod my head in a cynical (and cool looking) way and break out the Value-rite.
Posted by: Max Power at September 14, 2016 06:58 PM
*******
Same here. I'm bracing for her to win just so I don't completely lose it like 2012. I had my hobo friend over to watch the election results. He brought a bottle of Grey Goose over to, you know, celebrate. Both of us were literally screaming at the TV. Both of us just sat there in silence or else swearing once it became apparent stupid Willard was going to lose. I actually cried so much that night fearful for what the next 4 years would bring and it has been worse than I imagined. I went to bed extremely drunk and depressed.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 14, 2016 07:14 PM (6IPEM)

376 How many states are already voting? Did military absentee ballots already go out?

Posted by: Jean at September 14, 2016 06:29 PM (ngn8T)

Damnedest thing - thing one plane carrying all the military absentee ballots from overseas crashed, again.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 14, 2016 07:14 PM (P/kVC)

377 Ricardo-

I had a large blood clot that caused the heart attack, which caused congestive heart failure, which led to pneumonia and pulmonary effusion, then another piece broke off and caused a stroke that took out my salivary glands and taste buds. The anticoagulants (warfarin) caused severe internal bleeding, went off, then got more pulmonary embolisms. No saliva, couldn't eat, teeth rotted, and lost 65 lbs before doing some serious healing.

I'm thinking about running for president.

Posted by: bergerbilder at September 14, 2016 07:15 PM (27WlQ)

378 Author of the "Flight 93 Election" column, Publius Decius Mus, pens a new column defending his position from recent critics.

http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/restatement-on-flight-93/

It's also hotlinked in my sock.

Here's a snippet:
To all the "conservatives" yammering about my supposed opposition to Constitutional principle (more on that below) and who hate Trump, I say: Trump is mounting the first serious national-political defense of the Constitution in a generation. He may not see himself in those terms. I believe he sees himself as a straightforward patriot who just wants to do what is best for his country and its people. Whatever the case, he is asserting the right of the sovereign people to make their government do what they want it to do, and not do things they don't want it to do, in the teeth of determined opposition from a managerial class and administrative state that want not merely different policies but above all to perpetuate their own rule.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 14, 2016 07:16 PM (LdMbv)

379 Recent history shows that to be true of most Republican nominees. And the Republican Senate always votes overwhelmingly to approve Democrat nominees.
Posted by: rickl at September 14, 2016 07:13 PM (sdi6R)
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I concur with this (although they've held pretty strong on Garland).

Republican presidents usually manage to nominate one decent conservative and several squishes. And they're TRYING to find conservatives.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:16 PM (mFkVC)

380 Like the one in Putin's pocket.

Yeah, you're not a serial liar or anything.
Posted by: keep flailing, shithead at September 14, 2016 07:13 PM (U5sOj)
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Look at what Trump says about Putin every... single... time he is brought up. Look at what his surrogates in the press say.

I'm not the one lying here.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:18 PM (mFkVC)

381 "I say: Trump is mounting the first serious national-political defense of the Constitution in a generation."

Spot on. "We the people ...."

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2016 07:18 PM (r1fLd)

382 When you look at any poll, always check the metrics before you form an opinion. Most polling over-sample Democratic by at least 6 points. Media polls are notorious for this, and are therefore automatically suspect.
So, while it might seem like good news that Trump is slightly ahead, you can mentally add some points to his scale, because the pollsters are certainly tweaking the poll to favor Clinton as much as they can.

Posted by: Mark Dietzler at September 14, 2016 07:19 PM (wnprX)

383 Too many of our allies are abandoning us anyway. How many operational tanks do the Germans have? It's about time we gave NATO a little tough love.

Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 07:01 PM (TppKb)


A good "wake up, Europe".

Posted by: gNewt....StopIt Susan at September 14, 2016 07:19 PM (4/5px)

384 I just don't care for 7.62x39, though, like you, I have thousands of rounds a fair bit in the magazine. I think I'd rather have 5.56 in a AK pattern than x39 in a Garand. Does the Mini have a 300BLK option? That would be cool I think.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 14, 2016 07:20 PM (rwI+c)

385 I would bet that Hilary ALREADY spends most or her day in a bed or chair and only walks without assistance when she is in the public eye or absolutely has to.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at September 14, 2016 07:21 PM (onq2p)

386 and yes, yes there is.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 14, 2016 07:21 PM (rwI+c)

387 I didn't believe the polls about Romney losing.

Posted by: gNewt....StopIt Susan at September 14, 2016 07:21 PM (4/5px)

388 "When you look at any poll, always check the metrics before you form an opinion. Most polling over-sample Democratic by at least 6 points"

They often do it by assuming 2012 turnouts patterns, which will certainly be wrong in 2016. How these turnout patterns will change is the big Known Unknown.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2016 07:21 PM (r1fLd)

389 I've had a Mini Thirty for 20 canoe-accident years. It has a light and smooth recoil, which totally surprised me by moving a pretty good quality scope in the stock scope rings. So pay some attention to that mounting.

It is a very reliable action. Of course I've run some real crap though it, so you can make it catch sidelong on ejection. But feeding and firing are just not an issue. If you fit larger, non-stock magazines, not that anyone would actually do that, there's a good chance you'll have to do a little dremel work to get them to engage the same every time.

Very satisfying Garand feel as that action cycles. I think that round behaves a lot like a 30-30, which is OK for a carbine.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 14, 2016 07:22 PM (H5rtT)

390 And I am asking how you and others intend to curb his many, many negative impulses.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:10 PM (mFkVC)


You are a troll, dude. I see that you didn't respond to me calling you out for making a "straw man" statement. So you are saying Trump has worse impulses than Gramma Capone? I lived through the first time Bill and Hillary Clinton were in the White House; she is a nasty piece of work (Bill isn't any better, just twisted in a different way).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 14, 2016 07:23 PM (5Yee7)

391 You are a troll, dude. I see that you didn't respond to me calling you out for making a "straw man" statement. So you are saying Trump has worse impulses than Gramma Capone? I lived through the first time Bill and Hillary Clinton were in the White House; she is a nasty piece of work (Bill isn't any better, just twisted in a different way).
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 14, 2016 07:23 PM (5Yee7)

I lived through Clinton too. Hillary belongs in jail.

I didn't respond to your argument because it was nonsensical. Trump isn't a Conservative - that's the whole point. But given the way electoral politics work, he will be the MOST conservative president to occupy the White House for 12 to 20 years if he wins. His one or two terms will be followed by a Dem administration. And his Trumpist, non-conservative thinking will be the dominant ideaology in the party during that time.

I'm asking how Conservatives intend to make themselves heard during that period.

Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:29 PM (mFkVC)

392 Does the Mini have a 300BLK option?

A fine question ... I have no idea.

But I do like my Mini-14. Shot a ton of shit through it. No problems. Ended up putting a 3x9 on it ... because my eyes are getting old.

But honestly ... like you say, if I didn't have a DAMN PILE of 7.62x39 - I wouldn't give two shits about shooting them. I'd just stick to 5.56 and .308.

I do like the idea of taking a Mini-Thirty hog hunting next spring. And I don't like that SKS. Just don't.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 14, 2016 07:30 PM (fiGNd)

393 Could it be MS?

Posted by: Elizabeth Peterson at September 14, 2016 07:30 PM (uus3S)

394 I'm asking how Conservatives intend to make themselves heard during that period.

How do you intend to do that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2016 07:31 PM (EnGQE)

395 I do like the idea of taking a Mini-Thirty hog hunting next spring.

That's what my T53-54r thumper is for. And the bayonet gives some comfort.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 14, 2016 07:33 PM (rwI+c)

396 Hillary's anti trump ads are being ramped up now. In Ohio.

Posted by: Simplemind at September 14, 2016 07:36 PM (1/dEZ)

397 According to Global Firepower, The German Republic has only 408 Panzers left on active duty. This is disputed by the Bundeswehr itself saying they only have 225 left.

I believe the 408 is more accurate. Plans had been made and the Panzers had already been sent to a scrapyard. Then the Ukraine violence started up again and maybe threw some fear into the Germans and some of the Panzers were recalled.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 14, 2016 07:37 PM (d76uN)

398 That's what my T53-54r thumper is for.

I can't argue with a Mosin. Those are fine pieces. Good guns.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 14, 2016 07:41 PM (fiGNd)

399 I may be wrong but didn't the Clinton campaign say several staffers also had pneumonia recently? Is it common for several people in a small group to develop non-contagious pneumonia in a short period of time?

Posted by: beck at September 14, 2016 07:42 PM (CcIgv)

400 Could it be MS?
Well, it's never lupus.

"Panzer" is the generic German word for tank, also the specific name of several WWII models. I think all current German tanks are Leopard II's, nicht war?
Last I heard they were on the market to other nations.

Gosh, it seems like Germany has about one tank for each nuclear warhead we have.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 14, 2016 07:45 PM (H5rtT)

401 I'm asking how Conservatives intend to make themselves heard during that period.Posted by: person(a non grata) at September 14, 2016 07:29 PM (mFkVC)

Simple, we don't. The trumpists (as opposed to the non-Hillary vote) have no more interest in forming a coalition with traditional constitutionalists than the old establishment did, because they're just as inclined to big government and centralized power as the old guard.

They expect obedience from you, you "troll", nothing more.

Posted by: m-zero-x at September 14, 2016 07:46 PM (zWTYO)

402 I had pneumonia when I was 12 and it kicked my ass for two weeks! How in the Hell can that fat-assed bitch recover from this in 2-4 days? Something stinks about this whole thing and the story in the news that she is working so hard with no sleep and caught pneumonia in order to help us ?? No dice Cankles --- This will not work !!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 14, 2016 07:47 PM (NuElX)

403 Welcome to the party pal. All that ever was required was to listen to both of them speak. Trump is able to and Hillary isn't. That and noticing that even her friends hate her guts.

Posted by: x at September 14, 2016 07:48 PM (nFwvY)

404 Ace is fighting Mean Girls on twitter!!

Let's thug out some more on this thread and gang up on the "troll".


Yeah---we're winning people over!!

Posted by: Thuggy Bear at September 14, 2016 07:50 PM (fi5nC)

405 Posted by: andycanuck at September 14, 2016 07:16 PM (LdMbv)

Thank you for linking to that - what excellent articles -both the first one and his rebuttal.

And he's absolutely right.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. deplorably brandishing ampersands&&&&so there at September 14, 2016 07:50 PM (P8951)

406
I'm sure she is livid that the video is everywhere. This makes me happy. She must have been a joy to be around when she found out there was video footage of her face planting and being thrown into a van.

Apoplectic defined

Hopefully it won't cause a stroke

Posted by: Davo at September 14, 2016 07:51 PM (sMLEE)

407 Buzzfeed has an article proving that NeverTrumpers are really Hillary supporters. Ben Howe is quoted, as well as someone on Evan McMillan's campaign.

Posted by: MikeN at September 14, 2016 07:56 PM (o/eHL)

408 You're welcome, Donna.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 14, 2016 07:58 PM (LdMbv)

409 What do Nixon, Atty. Gen. Mitchell, Haldeman, Erlichman and Hillary have in common?

A: They were all fired during Watergate for being corrupt liars. She was the only Democrat, though.

Respected Democrat Judiciary Committee Chief Counsel Jerry Zeifman fired her, refused to give her a reference, called her a bald-faced liar and wished he'd pressed charges on her.

On behalf of Ted Kennedy's presidential ambition, she tried to deny Nixon a lawyer. When told that Justice Douglas had been allowed a lawyer, she swiped those documents from the public domain.

For over 40 years, she has been a corrupt liar who manipulates public records for presidential ambitions. How bad do you have to be to be the only Democrat disgraced in a Republican scandal?

Nothing--NOTHING--has changed in those four decades. Any health records she produces will be self-serving lies. She's a corrupt liar and always has been.

Posted by: Dr. Wizard of Oz at September 14, 2016 08:01 PM (Ndje9)

410 I am #exceptionallyunlikelytrump and virulently anti-Clinton. More than most, I'd imagine, due to my preference for equal protection under the law and my own potential liability under the laws she so clearly broke.

I find myself in agreement with much of what's posted by #nevertrump writers. I'm also surprised to hear how little I know about what I think.

Posted by: m-zero-x at September 14, 2016 08:05 PM (zWTYO)

411
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No, what I do is listen to what Trump says, and not make up an imaginary Trump in my head to make myself feel better about voting for him.

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You don't have to make up an imaginary Trump to feel better about voting for him. All you have to do is look at the real, actual Hillary.

Posted by: Alana at September 14, 2016 08:26 PM (6nXAR)

412 394 I'm asking how Conservatives intend to make themselves heard during that period.

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Well typically conservatives would ally themselves with the most conservative candidate and try persuade him to do the conservative thing. I'll point out that the Vice President would be Mike Pence, a conservative by any standard; someone who will certainly have the ear of Trump.

Instead a substantial number of conservatives have become neverTrump and burned their bridges and thus destroyed any possible influence they might have.

Posted by: Make American Great Again at September 14, 2016 08:41 PM (BS8yt)

413 Hillary wins and proposes progressive Democrat policies.
Trump wins and proposes progressive Democrat policies.

The suspense is killing me.

Posted by: Buy More Brawndo at September 14, 2016 08:45 PM (vaFpc)

414 A lying dying hag.

Posted by: excelsior at September 14, 2016 08:47 PM (BpvWC)

415 and conservative policies.

Posted by: Make American Great Again at September 14, 2016 08:48 PM (BS8yt)

416 Hillary was trying out for a "Zombie Walk" on audition for the Walking dead. Se really had that Zombie stutter-step-lunge at the people in the car thing down!

Posted by: excelsior at September 14, 2016 08:49 PM (BpvWC)

417 Six words:

Supreme Court Justice Barack Hussein Ofuckface.

Think it over, and for the love of God, get behind Trump and PUSH!

The man has ALL the right enemies. Think of it: ALL THE RIGHT ENEMIES. [Sorry for the caps, but I would like to shout this from the rooftops!]

Posted by: Beverly at September 14, 2016 08:55 PM (of+gh)

418 If you're looking for solace that maybe it's all still futile, I can give some pessimism.

1) The recent national polls don't reflect Trump's rise. They reflect Clinton's loss. Trump was hovering around 40%. He's still hovering around 40%. It's just Clinton has dropped from around 50% post-convention down to 40% along with Trump. The polls are saying that 10% of the country flipped from "I'm with her" to "none of those pieces of crap," rather than 5% switching from pro-Hillary to pro-Trump. Which is interesting, since they're not affirmatively saying third party, either. So they're probably just getting cold feet and will fall back in line with Her soon.

2) There's still no indication that Trump is going to peel away any "tipping point" state to push him over 270. Look at a map that adds up electoral votes. Give Trump every toss-up other than PA, MI, WI, and NH. What's that give you? Trump 266 (or 268 if you're bullish and give him Maine statewide minus the 1st district). What's left of the "toss-up" states is a wall of states Trump isn't even close on -- he's down a solid five points in all of them even looking at the optimistic polls. Trump has yet to show a glimmer of hope that he can win PA, MI, WI, NH, CO, RI (?!?), CN (?!?), VA, or OR.

Well, I guess there's that Ipsos result in Colorado, but that's the nation-wide state-by-state poll that shows him in spitting distance in Washington state and CN (no one else thinks it's close), but down 20 in Maine (where a lot of polls are saying it's within 10) so... let's wait for confirmation of it, eh? It's got odd outlier results in both directions depending on what state you look at.

3) Are we even sure Trump is the less-bigger-government candidate at this point anyway? Trumpcare, Trumpstergarten, Trumpulus... The only issue he seems not to be to the left of Hillary on is immigration at this point.

Posted by: Sayyid at September 14, 2016 09:06 PM (Wz+TY)

419 I hear you, Ace. And I was once you, albeit probably even more vocal with my disdain (if in my smaller theater of discourse).

These days? I'm on the Trump Train, baby.

Two reasons: immigration and free speech. Even if he fucks up the first, and I don't think he will, his very presence in office will justify the second. A good america, and free america, is one where you can engage and troll and dispute and scorn and cheer -- and, yes, take a fucking stupid ass knee -- without consequence. That's the America I want to live in. A vote for Trump is a vote against safe spaces, and nannying, and special snowflaking.

Posted by: Scout at September 14, 2016 09:12 PM (ukad2)

420 Trump is not a buffoon. He will go down as one of the greatest presidents evah. Seriesly.

Posted by: oddknot still frets at September 14, 2016 09:29 PM (g1MTt)

421 Trump averages about 43 in the polls, Clinton 44

Posted by: Make American Great Again at September 14, 2016 09:32 PM (BS8yt)

422 A vote for Trump is a vote against safe spaces, and nannying, and special snowflaking.Posted by: Scout at September 14, 2016 09:12 PM (ukad2)

This is what I was asking for the other day when I was begging somebody to give me reasons to vote FOR Trump. You folks want to win, you'd better start persuading people rather than barking them down. Don't get me wrong, I still want you to lose - I just want the other side to lose a whole lot more.

Posted by: m-zero-x at September 14, 2016 09:33 PM (zWTYO)

423 Children, children, children....Do you remember when you got your diapers changed on election night 1980?

Posted by: butternut at September 14, 2016 09:40 PM (QNFC/)

424 Looking at the battlegrounds , there really is no way Hillary can lose. She has PA, WI, MI, NH, and VA locked up. CO is probably still locked up for her, too. If she puts money back into CO, then it's in play. But there simply is no path for Trump to win.

Posted by: Warriors1965 at September 14, 2016 09:41 PM (YrjNh)

425 424 Looking at the battlegrounds , there really is no way Hillary can lose. She has PA, WI, MI, NH, and VA locked up. CO is probably still locked up for her, too. If she puts money back into CO, then it's in play. But there simply is no path for Trump to win.
Posted by: Warriors1965 at September 14, 2016 09:41 PM (YrjNh)

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Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Posted by: Make American Great Again at September 14, 2016 09:42 PM (BS8yt)

426 To Ace:
"Now you're telling me this buffoon could actually win?"
Ace, I think people have told you many times that Donald Trump could/will win right here on this site. To the morons on this site who told me on another thread that Ace was all about Donald Trump. I ask, how does the quote above sound helpful? When I posted this link:
http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/

you guys said to me that Ace was all about that and had already posted it for all here to read....maybe so but.....
"Now you're telling me this buffoon could actually win?"
Really?
We have two choices in this election. Cankels. OR. Trump. If we get saddled with Hillary Clinton...It's on people like you Ace.

Who's the buffoon Ace?

jus sayin'
ol'

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