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IT Specialist Who Set Up Hillary Clinton's Illegal Email Ignores Congressional Subpeona; Two Workers From Company That Hosted Her Server Plead the Fifth Rather Than Answer Questions Truthfully
Nothing to see here, folks. Just lots of Hillary's cronies saying their lawyers have advised them not to answer questions, as the answers may expose them to legal peril.
Just another day of Clinton's pre-Administration. Pagliano, Clinton's illegal IT guy at State, can't invoke the Fifth, as he was granted immunity by the FBI. He therefore cannot be prosecuted for anything he told them (and if he repeats the same thing to Congress, he can't be prosecuted for that, either). So he just decided to defy the subpoena and not show up at all.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)The House should hold him in contempt and jail him.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 11:38 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: MTF at September 14, 2016 11:38 AM (/m8T6)
"Uh I plead the fifth since uh I can't be prosecuted er you know fuck it I'm just going fishing..."
//Pagliano
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 11:39 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: FNG at September 14, 2016 11:39 AM (1IkXY)
Posted by: William Eaton at September 14, 2016 11:40 AM (KhJh8)
Posted by: davidt at September 14, 2016 11:40 AM (oV6Oc)
Posted by: Sid Vicious at September 14, 2016 11:41 AM (xYNyF)
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 14, 2016 11:41 AM (O2RFr)
Will they even do that?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 14, 2016 11:41 AM (pJeRn)
Posted by: Tsrblke at September 14, 2016 11:41 AM (dzmBR)
Eh my reason for not being able to vote for orange toupee weasel is uh...womynz his war on womynz is at least as bad as Romney's.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 11:41 AM (SzZnW)
From what I've read there isn't much they can do... Not that they would anyway...
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 14, 2016 11:42 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Mortimer, deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:42 AM (zu88C)
Posted by: Congress at September 14, 2016 11:42 AM (gmeXX)
I wish he'd limit that range. Keep it down to options involving handcuffs and whatnot.
Posted by: iforgot -- now on Android! at September 14, 2016 11:42 AM (jk52O)
Absolutely, this f**k is worse than Lois Lerner.
Reason he is doing it is he is a contractor not a civil servant so there is no pension in play....
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 11:42 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2016 11:42 AM (It7Oy)
Posted by: She's with Her at September 14, 2016 11:42 AM (Fapgt)
Posted by: The deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 14, 2016 11:43 AM (FvnN9)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2016 11:43 AM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 14, 2016 11:43 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2016 11:44 AM (It7Oy)
Congress has the power to compel presence and demand answers.
He has the right to plead the fifth until he signs an immunity deal which he did.
There is a nice Capitol jail, it needs used.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 11:44 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Pagliano at September 14, 2016 11:44 AM (/Uo3d)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2016 11:44 AM (3wzsT)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 14, 2016 11:44 AM (2PHKP)
Wonder where they'll find the body.
Posted by: m at September 14, 2016 11:44 AM (/4GEs)
Posted by: Roy at September 14, 2016 11:45 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:45 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 14, 2016 11:45 AM (4ng05)
Posted by: Boot Stomping on a Face Forever at September 14, 2016 11:45 AM (oV6Oc)
Posted by: m at September 14, 2016 11:45 AM (/4GEs)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2016 11:45 AM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2016 11:46 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2016 11:46 AM (3wzsT)
Pepe, you nazi bastard!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (2PHKP)
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (F1ndw)
Posted by: iforgot -- now on Android! at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (jk52O)
Except we're missing all the parts where the protagonist succeeds in exposing the crimes and restoring justice. Heck, we're missing the protagonist period.
Posted by: joe, living deplorably at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (KUaJL)
According to K. Guilfoyle, this will take years to wend its way through the process, so in effect it is a toothless procedure.
Posted by: PJ at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (cHuNI)
Will they even do that?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 14, 2016 11:41 AM (pJeRn)
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Exactly...until I start seeing people being impeached and arrested for contempt then I view everything they do as "failure theater".
The "loud mouth" statement from Ace in regard to Trump needing to do outreach to women yesterday cuts both ways. If you talk big for the cameras and deliver nothing after a while it becomes clear you talk big and carry a twig. The Dems always take the twig and snap it...then go back to Starbucks. Let me know when the GOP is serious about law and order, and then I might give them more respect...
Posted by: William Eaton at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (KhJh8)
Banana. Fucking. Republic.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable
It would be better if we had some actual bananas to go along with it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (IqV8l)
AND it is congress's fault. They have allowed him to do anything he wants and he is showing them that, yes, he will.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (mpXpK)
*continues signing checks for things Obama wants*
Posted by: Paul Ryan at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (/Uo3d)
It would be better if we had some actual bananas to go along with it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (IqV8l)
Yes we have no bananas.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:48 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Picric at September 14, 2016 11:48 AM (s0VSd)
Posted by: She's with Her at September 14, 2016 11:42 AM (Fapgt)
I like that "powering through those subpoenas."
Posted by: m at September 14, 2016 11:48 AM (/4GEs)
The republic is dying, yet any one of these assholes could stop the bleeding with a real show of force backed by LAW.
Or, fuck it. Whatever works for you.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 14, 2016 11:49 AM (2PHKP)
not to answer questions, as the answers may expose them to legal peril.
That, and someone from Clinton Inc. told them they would end up like Seth Rich, John Ashe or Shawn Lucas should they decide to spill the beans.
A Congressional subpoena doesn't work against likely death threats.
The one who spoke yesterday should watch his back....
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 11:49 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 11:49 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2016 11:49 AM (3wzsT)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (IqV8l)
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And vanilla ice cream and hot fudge sauce, too.
Posted by: bluebell at September 14, 2016 11:49 AM (xpSCc)
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 14, 2016 11:49 AM (hJrjt)
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 14, 2016 11:50 AM (RD7QR)
And vanilla ice cream and hot fudge sauce, too.
Posted by: bluebell at September 14, 2016 11:49 AM (xpSCc)
Nothing can make bananas palatable. Nothing.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:50 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: mrp at September 14, 2016 11:50 AM (JBggj)
In etymological news:
sub = under
poena = penalty
Think away the "o" before the "e" in subpoena, like you do in oeconomics.
Posted by: m at September 14, 2016 11:50 AM (/4GEs)
Posted by: josephistan at September 14, 2016 11:50 AM (7HtZB)
Checks and Balances?
We will write a check and ignore the balance.
Posted by: Deplorable Grampa Jimbo at September 14, 2016 11:50 AM (4+VII)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 14, 2016 11:51 AM (2PHKP)
[ ] Something
[X] Nothing
Thank you.
Posted by: The deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 14, 2016 11:43 AM (FvnN9)
No, thank you.
Posted by: m at September 14, 2016 11:51 AM (/4GEs)
In etymological news:
sub = under
poena = penalty
Think away the "o" before the "e" in subpoena, like you do in oeconomics.
Posted by: m at September 14, 2016 11:50 AM (/4GEs)
That's an oexcellent oetymological oexplanation.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:51 AM (0mRoj)
Hey, we've got BlueBell vanilla here!
(see, I can work in Texas in almost any thread)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 11:51 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 14, 2016 11:51 AM (CQO4x)
That's what I heard.... I would however use there "lack" of testimony in an ad saying
" Why are they covering for Hillary ?" What is she trying to hide? "
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 14, 2016 11:51 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 14, 2016 11:51 AM (GDulk)
Will they even do that?
Posted by: Lance McCormick
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Their goal is to score votes for November, not actually do anything to upset the gravy train.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2016 11:51 AM (7ZVPa)
well, ya, it's not like Congress is going to do anything. What are they going to do? Ask Obama's DOJ to prosecute. Ya, sure, like that's going to happen.
Posted by: Weird Lu Phat at September 14, 2016 11:51 AM (6Hkgs)
He's a punk.
And the FBI knows he's a bitch.
We're doing more here in these comments than Chaffetz will ever do.
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 14, 2016 11:52 AM (e2Rx3)
Chaffetz also said there will be consequences. Consequences are the worst!
I'll give you such a pinch!
Posted by: Joe Besser Chaffetz at September 14, 2016 11:52 AM (IqV8l)
The one who spoke yesterday should watch his back....
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search
Herring?
That guy was terrible. Must not have been a lawyer. He had no game when it came to being evasive.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2016 11:52 AM (V3IFq)
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:50 AM (0mRoj)
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Oh I agree. We can have the ice cream and hot fudge sauce and leave the bananas for the rest.
Posted by: bluebell at September 14, 2016 11:52 AM (xpSCc)
Oh, and Chaffetz also said there will be consequences. Consequences are the worst!
Posted by: iforgot -- now on Android! at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (jk52O)
The next subpoena will be all caps AND bolded.
That'll get them!
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:52 AM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton's Yoga Pants Slowly Pealing a Banana at September 14, 2016 11:52 AM (It7Oy)
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In serious, where does Congress get the power to compel citizens to testify? Granted - this person as a federal employee (is he still one?) may be different from a "normal" citizen.
Posted by: Congress at September 14, 2016 11:53 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 14, 2016 11:53 AM (O2RFr)
https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/with_replies
Posted by: andycanuck at September 14, 2016 11:53 AM (LdMbv)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 11:53 AM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Eromero at September 14, 2016 11:53 AM (zLDYs)
Posted by: 16 Paranoia Filled Days Later at September 14, 2016 11:53 AM (x4zgf)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 14, 2016 11:53 AM (qDAJS)
They've obviously never tried Huma flavored nanners...
//Hillary's Twitching Thigh
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 11:53 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 11:54 AM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 11:54 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:50 AM (0mRoj)
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Oh I agree. We can have the ice cream and hot fudge sauce and leave the bananas for the rest.
Posted by: bluebell at September 14, 2016 11:52 AM (xpSCc)
*fistbump*
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:54 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 14, 2016 11:51 AM (CQO4x)
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On my calendar, every day is Sundae.
Posted by: bluebell at September 14, 2016 11:54 AM (xpSCc)
"Look for the union label..."
//AlGore
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 11:54 AM (SzZnW)
Not civil servants. Citizens who would rather not risk getting their lives mysteriously f'd up long after Congress and the MSM have moved on to the next scandal.
Hillary has been intimidating people for decades - just read some of the stuff they did to Kathleen Willey.
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 11:54 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: IC at September 14, 2016 11:54 AM (a0IVu)
Put them in shackles and tell them this is your future if you ain't smart.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 14, 2016 11:54 AM (CQO4x)
Posted by: Marcus T at September 14, 2016 11:54 AM (+YTl9)
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 14, 2016 11:54 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 14, 2016 11:55 AM (2PHKP)
Posted by: Fritz at September 14, 2016 11:55 AM (2Mnv1)
That'll get them!
And strongly worded!
Posted by: deplorable donna at September 14, 2016 11:53 AM (O2RFr)
With lots of exclamation points, to show that this time they're not fucking around.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:55 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 11:55 AM (C9pBZ)
The republic is dying, yet any one of these assholes could stop the bleeding with a real show of force backed by LAW.
In order for evil to succeed, it is simply necessary for good men to do nothing
- - Shit Some Old White Guy Said
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 14, 2016 11:55 AM (X6fMO)
Congress has invoked this power since 1814.
We call it "oversight."
You plead the 1/5th and go home....UNLESS of course you've been given pre-emptive immunity from prosecution...which uh get this DoJ gave Pagliano.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 11:56 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: tonynoboloney at September 14, 2016 11:56 AM (Yba/s)
You can see it here, plain as day. Plead the fifth. Keep your mouth and we'll take care of you and your family. Squeal and you'll be punished.
I think if Hill kicks and/or loses the election, this will all start coming apart. Just like in a Mafia family, it's all based on personal loyalty to the Godfather and fear of retribution. Those two things keep everybody in line. Once the Godfather kicks off, or is thought to be too old or not powerful enough to punish anybody or honor promises of reward, the soldiers start to ignore orders, stop kicking up money, and rebel.
If Hill loses, she won't be able to protect any of these people anymore, her promises of pardons and fake kangaroo investigation leading to acquittals will be forfeit.
That's why they are so desperate to keep her alive and get her to the finish line, even with her last breath. She has promises to fulfill, and if it looks like she can't come through anymore, there will be a vacuum at the top and it will all start falling apart.
It's scary how far and how far up the chain this has reached. (See: Comey) They will do ANYTHING to win this, and I mean ANYTHING. This could get bad.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at September 14, 2016 11:56 AM (1zARK)
But in amongst our new refugees we probably have some Taliban to tally them banana.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:56 AM (ZFUt7)
Posted by: duke at September 14, 2016 11:56 AM (EQNFN)
Posted by: Flyover at September 14, 2016 11:56 AM (BffIL)
Welcome to 2015...
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Welcome, President Trump!
Posted by: The State of Michigan at September 14, 2016 11:56 AM (JBggj)
...Yoga?
Hillary hits the campaign trail again tomorrow.
With her feet or her face is the question...
Posted by: Meremortal, ride to the sound of the guns. at September 14, 2016 11:56 AM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:57 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 14, 2016 11:57 AM (CQO4x)
"Hey, isn't this the entrance to Fort Marcy P...fffft"
/IT guy's last words
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 11:57 AM (C9pBZ)
By weeks end?
Why do you think he failed to show?
He's stable at room temp now.
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 11:57 AM (cHbIE)
But in amongst our new refugees we probably have some Taliban to tally them banana.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:56 AM (ZFUt7)
Daylight come an' me wan' go home.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:57 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: The deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 14, 2016 11:57 AM (FvnN9)
No. The Marshals Service is part of the DOJ. There are two paths. One is to send the Sergeant-at-Arms to arrest him for contempt. The second is to refer it to the US Attorney for DC. The first hasn't been attempted by the House in almost a century, the second was done for both Lerner and and Holder and we know how that worked out.
Before anything happens there has to be a vote of the whole committee to go after him and then a vote on the House floor.
Everyone will be out campaigning in October so nothing is going to happen anytime soon.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 11:57 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: sven10077
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If we had gotten answers to 1/5th of the questions, we would be farther along right now...
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2016 11:57 AM (7ZVPa)
That's almost embarrassing.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 14, 2016 11:58 AM (2PHKP)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 11:54 AM (Ozsfq)
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Trump has hit the Dems harder in one speech then the GOP congress has done in 4 years. He actually made Obama angry, and forced him to quit vacations and golf outings to do real work to counter what Trump was doing.
In other words a real impact...hence why he has the support of people like me.
Posted by: William Eaton at September 14, 2016 11:58 AM (KhJh8)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 14, 2016 11:58 AM (jJ6Ws)
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at September 14, 2016 11:58 AM (/Uo3d)
Ford announces ALL if it's small car production is moving to Mexico
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 11:53 AM (Ozsfq)
Obama wasn't able to give half of their stock to the unions.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 14, 2016 11:58 AM (mpXpK)
Not so much for the worthless fucks that protest the American Flag
NO MORE NFL FOOTBALL FOR ME. FUCK THEM
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 11:58 AM (Ozsfq)
++++
No! Leave them alone!
-- fruitflies
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2016 11:59 AM (3wzsT)
What does the constitution say about... ok never mind.
What was that Quote about 'justice delayed is justice denied'?
So the crimes were committed four years ago, and nothing will happen until there is a Republican president, (if then), and there will have to be a through investigation, and it will take a year or two (after we get a new president) just to get the investigation started, a couple of years for the actual election, and then years to wade through the delays at court, and by then we will have another president (probably democrat) who might well squash the whole thing, some twenty years after the crime was committed. Hell, people could die of old age before that.
Some justice system we got here.
Posted by: Weird Lu Phat at September 14, 2016 11:59 AM (6Hkgs)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 11:59 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 14, 2016 11:59 AM (CQO4x)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2016 11:44 AM (3wzsT)
That there needed to be repeated, with emphasis.
So, I did.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 14, 2016 11:59 AM (v5iqM)
With her feet or her face is the question...
What are the odds on "face"?
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 11:59 AM (cHbIE)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2016 11:44 AM (3wzsT)
That there needed to be repeated, with emphasis.
So, I did.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 14, 2016 11:59 AM (v5iqM)
I don't see any oexclamation points.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:59 AM (0mRoj)
Lynch is claiming, get this, that it was limited immunity that allowed him to talk to FBI without risk of prosecution but not Congress. Convenient, eh?
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 11:59 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 14, 2016 12:00 PM (AroJD)
Welcome to 2015...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 11:55 AM (C9pBZ)
I've owned Ford trucks my entire life... until now. Makes buying actual decent vehicles easier, I guess. At least the list is shorter.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 14, 2016 12:00 PM (4ng05)
Ford announces ALL if it's small car production is moving to Mexico"
Welcome to 2015...
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Hey Union Democrats, how has that worked out for you?
Billy Jeff signed NAFTA, and lots of good factory jobs went away.
Now, thanks to the economic policies of your Lord and Savior Barack, more are going.
Good job union leaders!
One question for you: how are you going to finance your house up north, your boat, and your kids college if there are no union members left to pay dues?
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 14, 2016 12:00 PM (tvyXw)
They can send one of those SWAT teams from the Department of Education or whatever to pick him up. It's not like they're doing anything.
Posted by: TexasDan at September 14, 2016 12:00 PM (FnuZG)
Posted by: Marcus T at September 14, 2016 12:00 PM (+YTl9)
So, we gave this guy immunity and he still tells congress to fuck off?
That's almost embarrassing.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 14, 2016 11:58 AM (2PHKP)
And each instance will get more and more embarrassing. The first guy paves the way for everyone else....and they'll ramp it up.
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:00 PM (Enq6K)
Lynch is claiming, get this, that it was limited immunity that allowed him to talk to FBI without risk of prosecution but not Congress. Convenient, eh?
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 11:59 AM (NOIQH)
Lynch is nothing more than a hatchetbitch for the leftists running the administration.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:00 PM (0mRoj)
>>So, we gave this guy immunity and he still tells congress to fuck off?
Lynch
is claiming, get this, that it was limited immunity that allowed him to
talk to FBI without risk of prosecution but not Congress. Convenient,
eh?
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 11:59 AM (NOIQH)
Wow. One could infer quite a bit from such an arrangement, if one so desired to pull one's head from one's keister.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 14, 2016 12:00 PM (2PHKP)
Nothing can make bananas palatable. Nothing.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable...
I don't care much for them, but bananas foster. You'd be surprised what rum and on fire in some sort of butter/sugar bath on top of vanilla ice cream can do.
Posted by: 16 Paranoia Filled Days Later at September 14, 2016 12:00 PM (x4zgf)
You've probably never experienced a fried plantain (banana) in Costa Rica.
Posted by: Meremortal, ride to the sound of the guns. at September 14, 2016 12:00 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Relax, I'm sure there's TruCons that will tell us factories leaving the US in droves for Mexico and China is ultimately a good thing for the American worker.
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 12:01 PM (RbF5Z)
Posted by: IC at September 14, 2016 12:01 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: M Magoo's at September 14, 2016 12:02 PM (7ydZq)
This Clinton corruption deal just goes on and on, deeper and deeper. Everything they touch turns rotten. The possibility of her election to the presidency is looking more and more like the threat of Divine punishment meted out in the Old Testament.
Posted by: troyriser at September 14, 2016 12:02 PM (UWlp+)
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hmmm
whistle Dixie
twiddle thumbs
hold breath
stern glance
Posted by: John Bobbitt at September 14, 2016 12:02 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: jwest at September 14, 2016 12:02 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable...
Frosted flakes.
My lawn. Off it.
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 12:02 PM (cHbIE)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Yeah, but you're a New York Jets fan, iirc. That's like cheering for a semi-pro team.
I'll allow it.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative but 100% deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (ZFUt7)
hmmm
whistle Dixie
twiddle thumbs
hold breath
stern glance
Posted by: John Bobbitt at September 14, 2016 12:02 PM (h/uSM)
Don't forget the furrowed brow. That will really show him.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (2PHKP)
whistle Dixie
twiddle thumbs
hold breath
stern glance
Posted by: John Bobbitt at September 14, 2016 12:02 PM (h/uSM)
Throw shade
Side-eye
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (0mRoj)
Dodge trucks - Mexico
Chevy and GMC - Nope. Never again.
Ford - still KC and Mich.
Most truck components and assembly from USA?
Toyota.
Seriously. Go figure.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: 16 Paranoia Filled Days Later at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (x4zgf)
Posted by: Meremortal, ride to the sound of the guns. at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: Hilary! at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: Zombies H.R. Haldeman and John Mitchell at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (fgOnp)
Posted by: Paul Ryan at September 14, 2016 11:47 AM (/Uo3d)
Primo.
Posted by: m at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (/4GEs)
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable...
Frosted flakes.
My lawn. Off it.
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 12:02 PM (cHbIE)
No problem. I don't want to stand next to the puddle of puke I just rowfed on it anyway.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (0mRoj)
I'm no lawyer but Isn't it illegal to defy a congressional subpoena
regardless of whatever immunity deal he made with the FBI? His immunity
for whatever crimes he may've committed for Hillary would still hold but
wouldn'tthe actual defiance, the failure to appear, be a criminal act
not under the immunity umbrella?
---
hahahahahahaha
breath
hahahahahaha
Who is going to force this guy to do what he doens't want to do? The FBI? Congress? The Republicans?
There is no rule of laws.
There is just us and them.
They don't need to obey laws.
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 14, 2016 12:04 PM (tvyXw)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, deplorably down with Eph 6:12-13 at September 14, 2016 12:04 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: m at September 14, 2016 11:45 AM (/4GEs)
Ah, but the MSN lead is that Powell said nasty things about... TRUMP...
not kidding.... the bias is so blatant its astounding...
Say what you will ... but the masks are being stripped off this election cycle.. they are not even trying to pretend anymore.
Posted by: Don Q. at September 14, 2016 12:04 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: zombie vince foster at September 14, 2016 12:04 PM (LdMbv)
++++
I think I'd be LOL if all of this results in a civil war and it mostly took place between departmental SWAT teams
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2016 12:04 PM (3wzsT)
Posted by: shibumi who now just wants to yell at stupid people at September 14, 2016 12:04 PM (tvyXw)
You've probably never experienced a fried plantain (banana) in Costa Rica.
Fried by an nude, underaged, Costa Rican hooker?
Um, a friend told me.
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 12:04 PM (cHbIE)
Posted by: Weird Lu Phat at September 14, 2016 12:04 PM (6Hkgs)
Posted by: MSM at September 14, 2016 12:05 PM (856Z8)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (7ZVPa)
Battening down the hatches how? Link?
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at September 14, 2016 12:05 PM (RD7QR)
Germany appears to be battening down the hatches, something is up. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (7ZVPa)
Noch einmal. Third time's a charm.
Posted by: General Zod at September 14, 2016 12:05 PM (Bdeb0)
Ghattas wrote that Peres should be remembered for his tyrannical character and for being responsible for war crimes against us, with us apparently referring to Palestinians.
Ghattas is a member of the Balad party within the Joint List, which was founded by former MK Azmi Bishara, who fled the country under suspicion of giving information to Hezbollah during the 2006 Second Lebanon War. Ghattas has participated in an illegal flotilla to Gaza, and last month called for boycotts and sanctions of Israel at a radical left-wing conference in Montreal, which lost Canadian government partnership because of antisemitic content.
Lovely...he sounds like a democrat
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:05 PM (Ozsfq)
I just think no matter who gets elected we are f*cked, and not in a good way.
Posted by: JackS at September 14, 2016 12:05 PM (hgwL9)
whistle Dixie
twiddle thumbs
hold breath
...throw curling iron
Posted by: Meremortal, ride to the sound of the guns. at September 14, 2016 12:06 PM (3myMJ)
You rang?
//KD Williamson, CW WWW Cooke and all the champs at NRO
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 12:06 PM (SzZnW)
Mmmmmm. Bananas Foster Brooks. -buuuuurp
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 12:06 PM (cHbIE)
Posted by: Zombie-elect Pagliano at September 14, 2016 12:06 PM (4+VII)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
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Huh? Do tell.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 14, 2016 12:06 PM (jJ6Ws)
Toyota far and away makes the best product and most of it is now mostly US based. No UAW either.
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 12:06 PM (RbF5Z)
Posted by: JackS at September 14, 2016 12:05 PM (hgwL9)
If that's how you feel, I suggest you stock on some KY jelly.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:06 PM (Ozsfq)
That's an oexcellent oetymological oexplanation.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:51 AM (0mRoj)
hahahaha
Posted by: m at September 14, 2016 12:06 PM (/4GEs)
Dodge trucks - Mexico
Chevy and GMC - Nope. Never again.
Ford - still KC and Mich.
Most truck components and assembly from USA?
Toyota.
Seriously. Go figure.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (C9pBZ)
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Same with Honda. Most Hondas on the road today have more parts made in America then the so-called American auto makers do. And they are non-union. Btw, I only mention Honda because I drive one and I love it. I'm sure it's the same for the other Japanese automakers like Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Subaru, etc.
Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formerly known as Serenity Now!) at September 14, 2016 12:07 PM (BDZWU)
Posted by: JackS at September 14, 2016 12:05 PM (hgwL9)
If that's how you feel, I suggest you stock on some KY jelly.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:06 PM (Ozsfq)
Preferably before the broken glass and sand industry lobbyists get hold of it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:07 PM (0mRoj)
Relax, I'm sure there's TruCons that will tell us factories leaving the US in droves for Mexico and China is ultimately a good thing for the American worker.
Those trailer park meth heads should move to Mexico.
Posted by: Kevin Williamzon at September 14, 2016 12:07 PM (IqV8l)
Sternly-worded letter.
And I mean, STERNLY.
Posted by: The deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 14, 2016 12:07 PM (FvnN9)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 14, 2016 12:07 PM (09Ay7)
Things in better shape than Hillary Clinton:
1800 yr old Roman road
Shimon Peres
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 12:08 PM (cHbIE)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 14, 2016 12:07 PM (09Ay7)
Lock them in Bawney Fwank's basement.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:08 PM (0mRoj)
not kidding.... the bias is so blatant its astounding...
MSNBC is giving equal play to his anti-HRC comments. He says something like "I keep telling her minions (yes, he uses the word minions) to not rope me into this and they keep doing it and that's not a good idea".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 14, 2016 12:08 PM (mgbwf)
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What do you mean?
Posted by: shibumi
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Shutting embassies in Turkey, and consular schools. A few weeks ago they officially recommended people to store a few days worth of food, etc.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2016 12:08 PM (7ZVPa)
The punishment for not responding to a Congressional subpoena are a fine of between $100 and $1000 and up to 12 months in jail. The Clinton foundation is awash in unregulated cash.
A year at Club Fed in exchange for being set for life seems like a petty easy call.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:08 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: mrp at September 14, 2016 12:09 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: zmdavid at September 14, 2016 12:09 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: GOP Congress at September 14, 2016 12:09 PM (oV6Oc)
Posted by: mrp at September 14, 2016 12:09 PM (JBggj)
I believe it was also called "LBJ's Private bathroom"?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:09 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 14, 2016 12:09 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Paladin at September 14, 2016 12:10 PM (LTquJ)
Posted by: Independent George
________
Same here. My Dad was a big fan of Honda, Toyota and Nissan - which was funny as he had two ships knocked out from under him in the Pacific. (He never had a good thing to say about Mitsubishi, though. Probably saw enough of their handiwork back then.)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 14, 2016 12:10 PM (jJ6Ws)
for the rest of my life, or testify and then be taken for short visit to
Ft. Marcy Park.
Ft Marcy Park? Pagliano doesn't even have to leave his home.
John Ashe died days before he was set to testify in a case against his business partner, a long-time Clinton donor/croney -- he somehow managed to drop a barbell on his neck!
Shawn Luca, lead lawyer in the lawsuit against the DNC and DWS following the leaks was found dead in his bathroom. Last I read, they still haven't released the cause of death. His friends and family are understandable freaked out.
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 12:10 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: m
Yeah, in my county it's pronounced "sa-penis." And you can get out of one if you can prove you're getting a prostrate exam.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 14, 2016 12:10 PM (H5rtT)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 14, 2016 12:10 PM (jJ6Ws)
Had zero comments, eh?
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:10 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Beth M at September 14, 2016 12:10 PM (kiy9d)
>> business and profits for them and their share
>> holders but to have a quintessentially American
>> auto manufacturer do this, displacing a lot of
>> American based jobs in this economy, really sucks.
I think you'll find that a substantial and increasing proportion of Ford passenger-car production has been in Mexico for a long time.
Very few Ford passenger cars are built in the US. Some larger ones are built in Canada.
And that US-built Mustang has its 6-speed manual transmission sourced from a Chinese ZF plant, or at least it did a few years back.
Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 12:10 PM (TppKb)
Not really. As usual, there's more to the story.
That used to be a Truck/SUV plant, then shut down during 08 downturn.
Modified for small/hybrid/electric with much hullabaloo, but that didn't pan out, so they're shifting that production to Mexico, and retrofitting (again) for CUV/small SUV production.
The story should be about O'bumbles hybrid/electric/rechargeable/wind powered car idiocy...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:11 PM (C9pBZ)
Wonder if he kept his pinky finger out while throwing his mini tantrum at a party in the Hamptons?
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:11 PM (Enq6K)
I think there's a hotel or two in DC....the GOP needs to grasp it is in a power struggle with tyrants and get Sgt at Armsat least as hard as Canada's was.
//Sgt at Arms Vickers
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 12:11 PM (SzZnW)
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It requires a lot. Both House and Senate have to vote on it. Then it gets passed to, guess who, the DoJ. They may or may not act .
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:11 PM (9mTYi)
Just how bad what they are trying to hide?
And lines of text don't have viruses, you idiot.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 14, 2016 12:11 PM (B+qrE)
A long, long time ago, there was an Old Capitol Prison.
Put 'em in stocks and throw rotten bananas at 'em.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2016 12:11 PM (IqV8l)
*rubs hands and drools*
Posted by: Bwany Fwank at September 14, 2016 12:11 PM (856Z8)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 14, 2016 12:11 PM (09Ay7)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 14, 2016 12:11 PM (B+qrE)
your boat, and your kids college if there are no union members left to
pay dues?
Posted by: shibumi
Well, see, that's what their retirement fund was for.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 14, 2016 12:11 PM (H5rtT)
You know how many news outlets reported his little subpoena stunt with the FBI undering?
0.0
If he had any balls it would have Comey in that seat and Comey he served the subpoena to.
Even the media couldn't bury that but that's precisely why he called a lackey.
The GOP is a useless and illegitimate political party.
It's a CON and people are waking up to it.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 14, 2016 12:12 PM (O6fJt)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 12:12 PM (oqkO3)
Even if they don't win another election, they've won.
Nothing will ever happen to them. And they have shown the way forward, from Billy Jeff staring down an impeachment and refusing to resign, to today, they've broken ice and plowed a new channel straight through the Constitution; they've lost none of those who have broken laws to do their bidding.
We've had evidence stuffed in pants, destroyed in front of our faces. I'm surprised they don't just go ahead and tell the truth--it would be easier than lying, and still nothing is going to happen.
It's a safer bet to be on the side of the Clintons than on the side of the law. Seriously. If you were in the State Department when Hillary was there, you would be in far more danger following the actual law than you would be breaking it at her direction. At her implication even.
I think you could make an argument that the Clintons have become more powerful than the Federal Government itself. Name one fight the Feds have won with the Clintons. Plus more than half of the Feds are on their side anyway.
Posted by: TexasDan at September 14, 2016 12:12 PM (FnuZG)
Heck, Hillary wins and she could pardon him, right?
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 12:12 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 14, 2016 12:12 PM (CQO4x)
Interim Democratic National Committee Chair Donna Brazile warned against perusing the documents released in the latest DNC hack, alleging that they could have viruses which damage your computer.
Just how bad what they are trying to hide?
And lines of text don't have viruses, you idiot.
She must have been thinking of cooties.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2016 12:12 PM (IqV8l)
Had its first problem recently.
Brake light bulb burnt out.
Posted by: Meremortal, ride to the sound of the guns. at September 14, 2016 12:13 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Afroman at September 14, 2016 12:13 PM (8Vq35)
A bunch of years ago there was a Boston dealership that was promoting zero interest, zero down payment, and zero something else. The pitch line was:
"Mitsubishi! Zero! Zero! Zero!".
Nobody remembers anything any more.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 14, 2016 12:13 PM (mgbwf)
Posted by: Insomniac
________
Ha! Exactly.
Safety was another issue. He got to see Mitsubishi crash-test results up close and personal-like.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 14, 2016 12:13 PM (jJ6Ws)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 14, 2016 12:10 PM (jJ6Ws)
My Dad was on Iwo Jima and refused to buy Japanese for a long time. I eventually got a Honda and he kinda liked it, and broke down and admitted they made a fine car and eventually bought one himself.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:13 PM (Ozsfq)
>> hybrid/electric/rechargeable/wind powered car
>> idiocy...
It's a combination of Obama's CAFE pimping and ZEV credits toward CAFE, and California's EV mandate.
Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 12:13 PM (TppKb)
I would love it if Teh Donald would tease Scankles about having to hide behind Obama's skirts and really get the dog-eating crackhead steamed.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 14, 2016 12:13 PM (X6fMO)
"Mitsubishi! Zero! Zero! Zero!".
Nobody remembers anything any more.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 14, 2016 12:13 PM (mgbwf)
*facepalm*
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:13 PM (0mRoj)
never.
yea
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 14, 2016 12:14 PM (4ng05)
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
If you are still here you might be interested in this. A couple of articles about the Scamp.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j9gg6y8
Posted by: JackS at September 14, 2016 12:14 PM (hgwL9)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 14, 2016 12:14 PM (09Ay7)
Posted by: Willie Cicci: IT Consultant at September 14, 2016 12:14 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: Paul A'Barge at September 14, 2016 12:14 PM (ToDlO)
A year at Club Fed in exchange for being set for life seems like a petty easy call
++++
I'm reminded of Danny Devitos turn in Johnny Dangerously
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2016 12:14 PM (3wzsT)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 14, 2016 12:14 PM (H5rtT)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 14, 2016 12:14 PM (jJ6Ws)
Dodge trucks - Mexico
Chevy and GMC - Nope. Never again.
Ford - still KC and Mich.
Most truck components and assembly from USA?
Toyota.
Seriously. Go figure.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:03 PM (C9pBZ)
No figuring about it. In the 80's Reagan told the Japanese that if they wanted continued access to our markets they had better start building stuff in the US. Plus light trucks had a tariff on them up into the 90's. Yeah, that protecting your manufacturing base was plain evil.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 14, 2016 12:15 PM (Ee2nz)
I have a 2015 Cadillac SRX Luxury AWD with 10,266 miles that I'm putting up for sale this week. Loaded with all the options. $40K ($38K with the special moron discount).
Free delivery anywhere between Michigan and Newport, RI next week.
Posted by: jwest at September 14, 2016 12:15 PM (Zs4uk)
Not so much for the worthless fucks that protest the American Flag
NO MORE NFL FOOTBALL FOR ME. FUCK THEM
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 11:58 AM (Ozsfq)
Serious? Link?
Posted by: m at September 14, 2016 12:16 PM (/4GEs)
I've got an '08 Nissan Frontier 4WD that has been awesome. It's got 88k miles on it.
Had its first problem recently.
Brake light bulb burnt out.
Posted by: Meremortal, ride to the sound of the guns. at September 14, 2016 12:13 PM (3myMJ)
I have an '05 Nissan Murano....120k miles on it. My husband begs me to get a new car every couple of weeks It has had a few problems this last year but it's still plugging along.
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:16 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: iforgot -- now on Android! at September 14, 2016 12:16 PM (jk52O)
Yep. I keep trying to explain this and get blowback
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 14, 2016 12:16 PM (09Ay7)
Posted by: deplorable dagny
So there's no reason to ever respond to a congressional subpoena?
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 12:17 PM (cHbIE)
Not so much for the worthless fucks that protest the American Flag
NO MORE NFL FOOTBALL FOR ME. FUCK THEM
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 11:58 AM (Ozsfq)
Serious? Link?
Posted by: m at September 14, 2016 12:16 PM (/4GEs)
FOX Business had announcement of that 15 minutes ago. I have not seen any other direct link as of yet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:17 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 14, 2016 12:17 PM (B+qrE)
They're losing in the court of public opinion, which is why Hillary will lose the election.
After the election there's a decent chance that Trump's AG (probably Christie) will do something. I'd go after her minions, to make an example, and to see if they'll flip. Were I Trump, as an end game I'd trade a pardon of the Clintons for public humiliation.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2016 12:17 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: Beth M at September 14, 2016 12:17 PM (kiy9d)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 14, 2016 12:17 PM (09Ay7)
>> 90's. Yeah, that protecting your manufacturing base
>> was plain evil.
Still do. Google 'Chicken Tax'.
It's why Ford Transit Express cargo minivans all come into the US with seats and windows, and the seats and windows are stripped out and crushed.
Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 12:17 PM (TppKb)
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This would be the same Donna Brazile that can't understand why her health insurance premiums have gone up, right?
It's often the case that toadys are not very bright.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:17 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 12:17 PM (cHbIE)
Not if you're in the employ of our new aristocracy.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:17 PM (0mRoj)
Just how bad what they are trying to hide?
And lines of text don't have viruses, you idiot.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 14, 2016 12:11 PM (B+qrE)
But the best part of her released statement was the part where she said that Democrats take cyber security seriously....
Posted by: Don Q. at September 14, 2016 12:18 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 14, 2016 12:18 PM (09Ay7)
/RetardsofRedstate
Posted by: Memories at September 14, 2016 12:18 PM (mwcEF)
Posted by: davidt at September 14, 2016 12:18 PM (oV6Oc)
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist
It is funny because the "chicken tax" was basically a protectionist tax that made the Japanese start producing trucks and SUVs in the United States. And they now make them here in droves.
I'm not for all "protectionist" type legislation, but this idea that anything that protects domestic manufacturing is "bad" is a weird, libertarian strain primarily pushed by elite globalists on both sides of the aisle.
We've tried free trade and it's a United States owing China trillions of dollars and manufacturing has largely left the United States.
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 12:18 PM (RbF5Z)
Posted by: JEM at September 14, 2016 12:19 PM (TppKb)
Also, 2014, 120 K miles, only issue is I had to replace the headlamps last week.
(And I did it all by myself! In my best Jeremy Clarkson voice, "I've mended something!").
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 14, 2016 12:19 PM (mgbwf)
Posted by: mrp at September 14, 2016 12:19 PM (JBggj)
FOX Business had announcement of that 15 minutes ago. I have not seen any other direct link as of yet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:17 PM (Ozsfq)
I heard it on FBN early this morning. I believe they said $6k fine per player.
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:19 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Bandersnatch
________
True enough.
You know who do remember stuff? Ex-Soviets. I know a few and make a point of saying "S dnyom pobyetee" (Happy Victory Day) to them every May 9. They're genuinely touched by the sentiment. WWII is part of their cultural DNA. They couldn't forget if they tried.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 14, 2016 12:19 PM (jJ6Ws)
Old school Congress would have had the Sergeant-at-arms arrest Pagliano and throw him into the Congressional jail cell (there used to be one in the Congress building), until he would testify. But that hasn't been used in decades (or longer) and you would still need to have Pagliano be brought into Congress for that to happen.
The DOJ controls the keys. The administrative state rules this country, not our elected officials.
Posted by: Revenant at September 14, 2016 12:19 PM (3DSAh)
I would love it if Teh Donald would tease Scankles about having to hide behind Obama's skirts and really get the dog-eating crackhead steamed.
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Yo Hillary. Baking cookies may be safer. If you can't stand the heat, go back to the kitchen.
Posted by: iforgot -- now on Android! at September 14, 2016 12:20 PM (jk52O)
Posted by: Beth M at September 14, 2016 12:20 PM (kiy9d)
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:16 PM (Enq6K)
This SRX is just the thing for you.
It was driven by a little old lady (who thankfully died in her other car).
Posted by: jwest at September 14, 2016 12:20 PM (Zs4uk)
"Further DNC emails leaked being extensively reported on here:
https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/with_replies
Posted by: andycanuck
Andy, we keep posting links to this; I assume Ace will cover it. As if the widespread pay-for-play angle at the highest levels to sell off the US government isn't damning enough, it's about Insider trading, financial fraud, and massive democrat voter fraud. Apparently the DNC has an automated system that allows them to "rewrite" state voter rolls. Sanders supporters will be livid with rage.
Posted by: An Observer at September 14, 2016 12:20 PM (Fb4oj)
Posted by: setnaffa at September 14, 2016 12:20 PM (jl6Ly)
Posted by: jwest at September 14, 2016 12:20 PM (Zs4uk)
Peacefully in her sleep, unlike her screaming passengers.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:20 PM (0mRoj)
I figure she has Tourette's but instead of blurting out inappropriate curses, she lies involuntarily.
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 14, 2016 12:20 PM (hJrjt)
++++
Jesus don't make a federal case out of it
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2016 12:21 PM (3wzsT)
Posted by: Beth M at September 14, 2016 12:21 PM (kiy9d)
For 50 years, the Big Three claimed they couldn't make a 5-speed, 6-speed, overdrive, what have you (or what you didn't have, and wanted) because we just don't have the mechanical engineering talent in this country to do it.
Just daring you to go ahead and buy that Alfa Romeo.
There's a reason they went to the shitter. It was their attitude, both labor and mgmt.
Whadyagunna do, buy a foreign cah? Not all their products sucked, but 100% of their attitude did.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 14, 2016 12:21 PM (H5rtT)
Except we're missing all the parts where the protagonist succeeds in
exposing the crimes and restoring justice. Heck, we're missing the
protagonist period.
Remember "The Last Action Hero"? Well I liked it. Anyways, my point. When the Villain comes out of the move and realized that in our world....Evil can and actually does WIN!.
Posted by: Paladin at September 14, 2016 12:21 PM (LTquJ)
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I do want to know where Congress derives the power to subpoena someone to testify in front of Congress? I honestly do not know. Is it an implied power?
Posted by: Congress at September 14, 2016 12:21 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: mrp at September 14, 2016 12:19 PM (JBggj)
Or cut their funding
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:21 PM (Ozsfq)
Not for the past few years. Customs put a stop to that loophole, so FoMoCo pays the "chicken tax"
Which, BTW, was a tariff war with W Germany, not Japan. Remember that the top selling import into the US was VW thru '76...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:21 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at September 14, 2016 12:21 PM (3wzsT)
Nobody fucks with the Jesus.
Posted by: Jesus Quintana at September 14, 2016 12:22 PM (0mRoj)
Bing is all over the map with nothing as of today.
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 12:22 PM (cHbIE)
Posted by: Deplorable rickb
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In the old days, it would have constituted a de facto admission that you have something to hide, and would have resulted in further investigation.
These days, Democrats take pride in those who hide and/or evade their crimes and abet them. It is obviously true at the very highest level of the system.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:22 PM (9mTYi)
I crack myself up sometimes.
Posted by: Zombie-elect Pagliano at September 14, 2016 12:23 PM (4+VII)
Srsly?
There needs to be an organized pushback to this like there was to the Target bathroom. Don;t just stop watching, write/call them as well as NFL sponsors. And don;t buy their shirts to burn them - no more NFL swag.
This is unbelievable.
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 12:23 PM (NOIQH)
Pagliano was going to show up but then his brother from Sicily showed up with Tom Hagen and he decided not to appear.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 14, 2016 12:23 PM (OE2ur)
ZF has been building in China for 2 decades plus. Hardly news.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:23 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Deplorable rickb
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In the old days, it would have constituted a de facto admission that you have something to hide, and would have resulted in further investigation.
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If the executive branch is not interested in you, is there any reason to fear the legislative branch? Can they really do anything to you?
Posted by: Congress at September 14, 2016 12:24 PM (gmeXX)
So the FBI is investigating the source of the leak,
but not the uncovered plan to hijack the election.
In an odd way, this is all becoming unexpectedly clear.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 14, 2016 12:24 PM (4ng05)
It was driven by a little old lady (who thankfully died in her other car).
Posted by: jwest at September 14, 2016 12:20 PM (Zs4uk)
You calling me a little old lady bub?!
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:24 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: DLJ at September 14, 2016 12:24 PM (fjnRw)
You're not supposed to sock a regular's nic, but let's make an exception in this case.
Posted by: Roger Goodell Is A Fucking Clown at September 14, 2016 12:24 PM (97XyN)
What *cough-cough-cough,, differ-COUGH-COUGH-COUGH-,,ence at this-COUGH-COUGH-COUGH,, point does-cough-cough-it make-COUGH-COUGH-fart/squirt (shoe flies off-passes out)*
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 14, 2016 12:24 PM (HSmrB)
Posted by: Deplorable Grampa Jimbo at September 14, 2016 12:24 PM (4+VII)
Good news for the sexbot market, then.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 14, 2016 12:25 PM (X6fMO)
Once that happens, whoooie!! you'll regret it.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Simply Deplorable. at September 14, 2016 12:25 PM (d76uN)
Posted by: Congress at September 14, 2016 12:25 PM (gmeXX)
The NFL has gone all SJW. I'm done.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 14, 2016 12:25 PM (OE2ur)
power to subpoena someone to testify in front of Congress? I honestly
do not know. Is it an implied power?
Posted by: Congress at September 14, 2016 12:21 PM (gmeXX)
--Its an implied power based upon Congress' oversight role.
Posted by: Revenant at September 14, 2016 12:25 PM (3DSAh)
Posted by: Congress
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In 1857, Congress enacted a law which made "contempt of Congress" a criminal offense against the United States.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:25 PM (w35Hj)
So the FBI is investigating the source of the leak...
I'd like to say I'm shocked, but....
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 12:25 PM (NOIQH)
Maybe he's heard that hearings before Congress are nothing but Kabuki theater from other witnesses that have shown up in the past.
As far as I'm concerned Congress has no authority over me. Nor does the president.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 14, 2016 12:25 PM (uBUhD)
Posted by: SH at September 14, 2016 12:25 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: IC at September 14, 2016 12:26 PM (a0IVu)
Whadyagunna do, buy a foreign cah? Not all their products sucked, but 100% of their attitude did.
Posted by: Stringer Davis
The legacy costs also put them at a permanent disadvantage. A lot of the price of a new car is paying workers who have long since left. The Japanese companies building in the US don't have those huge costs.
Also, the Big 3 was quite comfortable with the planned obsolescence model where a car was basically going to the junkyard at 60k miles.
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 12:26 PM (RbF5Z)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:26 PM (C9pBZ)
power to subpoena someone to testify in front of Congress? I honestly
do not know. Is it an implied power?
Posted by: Congress at September 14, 2016 12:21 PM (gmeXX)
--Its an implied power based upon Congress' oversight role.
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That's what I figured, but I'm not sure how it applies to a normal citizen. I don't think there is anything in the Constitution that gives Congress the power to require me to testify in front of them.
Posted by: SH at September 14, 2016 12:27 PM (gmeXX)
you, is there any reason to fear the legislative branch? Can they
really do anything to you?
Posted by: Congress at September 14, 2016 12:24 PM (gmeXX)
--Not really. They can make you incur attorney fees, I guess. If you own a business, or are responsible for something they regulate, they might try to make your life miserable in other ways as revenge. But Congress usually cannot keep its eye on the ball long enough to be an effective investigator.You need the DOJ to be actively interested in pursuing the case. The DOJ can destroy you. But only if it wants to.
Posted by: Revenant at September 14, 2016 12:28 PM (3DSAh)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 14, 2016 12:25 PM (OE2ur)
Welcome to the club. It's growing reallllly fast.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 14, 2016 12:28 PM (wtvvX)
Merewife has the same year and model with 100K.
Will not consider giving it up, loves it.
I still think it's one of the best looking cars on the road.
Posted by: Meremortal, ride to the sound of the guns. at September 14, 2016 12:28 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: grammie winger's deplorable basket at September 14, 2016 12:28 PM (bpfzP)
They don't follow their own laws.
Government Agencies no longer obey Congress.
States are no different.
Governors and State Houses do the same.
Counties and Cities...same-same.
So why the fvck do I have to?
This is called anarchy. Look at Lebanon...anarchy can be a lot of fun for awhile. then it becomes a shit hole.
Posted by: Deplorable Diogenes at September 14, 2016 12:28 PM (r65B3)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 14, 2016 12:10 PM (jJ6Ws)
When Mitsubishi cars first came to North America back in the 1970's, they were unmitigated crap, and gained a bad rep for that. I think the current ones are OK, but really nothing on offer in the new car world impresses me much these days. I doubt I will ever buy a new car again.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 12:29 PM (oqkO3)
http://tinyurl.com/j798mdt
Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 14, 2016 12:29 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: Meremortal, ride to the sound of the guns. at September 14, 2016 12:29 PM (3myMJ)
That was set up by my father. He and Hillary were in the olive oil business together. But that was years ago.
Posted by: Frankie "IT" Pantangele at September 14, 2016 12:29 PM (c0/+W)
We've tried free trade and it's a United States owing China trillions of dollars and manufacturing has largely left the United States.
We've never tried free trade. We've tried versions of government managed trade and called it free trade. It would be great if we could start electing politicians who understood that they do more damage than help when they try to screw around with markets they do not understand.
The idea that protectionism is bad isn't some weird libertarian anything. It's basic economics.
Uncle Milton has numerous excellent videos explaining this. Here's one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qqG6OurHaM
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:29 PM (/tuJf)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress
1795 baby....
//https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Randal
In 1821 SCotUS held in Anderson v Dunn that Congress had the power.
In 1857 a law was passed, need I go on?
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 12:29 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: IC at September 14, 2016 12:26 PM (a0IVu)
They've always been about personal destruction.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:29 PM (0mRoj)
Holy sh#t. The DNC has an automated system that allows them to rewrite state voter rolls. #DNCLeak #DNCLeaks
https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/775954020896608256
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 12:29 PM (NOIQH)
That's how I feel when I read the news anymore. Like, for instance, the FBI investigating the leaker of the emails that state that someone is trying to rig the election. Like investigating a shop owner for price gouging after he was robbed at gun point.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 14, 2016 12:29 PM (2PHKP)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 14, 2016 12:25 PM (OE2ur)
Welcome to the club. It's growing reallllly fast.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 14, 2016 12:28 PM (wtvvX)
We need to devise a method of multi-boycotting (for us people who have already been boycotting the NFL for a host of other boycott worthy reasons).
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 14, 2016 12:30 PM (4ng05)
Well I need to go slash my wrists then....
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 12:30 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Will this have any effect at all on immigration? Trying to find an upside here.
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 12:31 PM (iFgwk)
Posted by: grammie winger's deplorable basket at September 14, 2016 12:28 PM (bpfzP)
ZOMG!!!!
Who's Tom Brady?
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:31 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 14, 2016 12:31 PM (H5rtT)
Posted by: JackStraw
You really think we still put up too many trade restrictions with China and Mexico?
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 12:32 PM (RbF5Z)
Toyota.
Used to have one. Loved it. It was the old Toyota 4x4. No model name, just Toyota 4X4. They don't make 'em anymore.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - I speak of the Pompatous of Love at September 14, 2016 12:32 PM (WlGX+)
If that's the case, it must be limited to things over which the Congress has oversight, right? Right?
I mean, like steroids in baseball, right?
We all know, the laws, and therefore Congressional oversight, doesn't apply to criminal malfeasance by Federal officeholders... so long as there's a "D" after their name.
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 14, 2016 12:32 PM (iIzG7)
I am glad it was on a lonely road near the end of my journey.
Posted by: Jinx the Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:32 PM (TnUKj)
They don't follow their own laws.
Government Agencies no longer obey Congress.
States are no different.
Governors and State Houses do the same.
Counties and Cities...same-same.
So why the fvck do I have to?
Because if you don't, you'll be thrown in jail. And if you resist, you'll be shot.
Any questions?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 14, 2016 12:32 PM (X6fMO)
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 12:30 PM (SzZnW)
===============================================
Yeah, I'm pretty broken up about it too. I might have to cancel my trapeze lesson tonight.
Posted by: grammie winger's deplorable basket at September 14, 2016 12:32 PM (bpfzP)
Posted by: xnycpeasant at September 14, 2016 12:32 PM (c0/+W)
Maybe this is why True the Vote was the most harassed org. by the Obama administration?
They are in the business of reviewing and cleaning state voter rolls - they maybe would have stumbled onto and/or stymied this DNC practice?
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 12:32 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:24 PM (Enq6K)
No, no...
As a matter of fact, since it's red it would go with your hair, or eyes, or something.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
Posted by: jwest at September 14, 2016 12:33 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 14, 2016 12:33 PM (2PHKP)
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My '72 Datsun 510. Drove it 196K miles. Sold it for $500. Certainly the best value in an automobile that I've ever had.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2016 12:34 PM (9mTYi)
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Yeah, good luck fining those guys.
Also, the Titans head coach, as well as some police and firemen orgs said they would happily pay any fines the players received.
Needless to say, the NFL has kinda backed down on their fine threats.
Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 14, 2016 12:34 PM (rlfds)
"Convention Crowd Really Hoping Bill Clinton Breaks Tension With Joke About How Terrible He Looks."
nice.
Posted by: General Zod at September 14, 2016 12:34 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: davidt at September 14, 2016 12:35 PM (oV6Oc)
Will this have any effect at all on immigration? Trying to find an upside here.
Posted by: Yuimetal at September 14, 2016 12:31 PM (iFgwk)
Former UAW workers immigrating to Mexico looking for work
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at September 14, 2016 12:35 PM (lKyWE)
https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/775954020896608256
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 12:29 PM (NOIQH)
The DNC is making the mafia look like a bunch of pikers. This should be burning up the internet, but because of the sheer volume of criminal... shit... this will roll quietly off the ducks back and down the lazy river.
We
Are
So
Fucked.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 14, 2016 12:35 PM (4ng05)
If we live in fear of our government, that is tyranny.
Posted by: Deplorable Diogenes at September 14, 2016 12:35 PM (r65B3)
I think the urge is for politicians and frankly people who don't understand free market economics in all countries is to ask big brother government to make things "fair" for them. It has never worked. It will never work. It's a temporary feel good thing that guarantees only one thing, higher prices for consumers. It's not just the US, all counties do this, but as the largest economy in the world by far I'd rather see us lead in a different direction.
Seriously, watch some Friedman. Nobody does a better job of explaining the fallacy of protectionism.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:35 PM (/tuJf)
citizen. I don't think there is anything in the Constitution that gives
Congress the power to require me to testify in front of them.
Posted by: SH at September 14, 2016 12:27 PM (gmeXX)
--Congressional subpoenas are usually tied to oversight over acts of Congress. For example, Congress passes the Clean Water Act and delegates the authority to administer that Act to an administrative agency, like the EPA. Congress, through the "necessary and proper" clause of the Constitution has the implied authority to subpoena EPA officials, etc., to monitor the administration of the Clean Water Act.If Congress was just issuing a subpoena to a private citizen without regard to its governmental oversight role, I think its on shakier legal ground. But, as in the case when Congress subpoenaed the testimony of major league baseball players (because Congress has the implied power to issue subpoenas in furtherance of its express power to regulate the commerce of narcotics and performance enhancing drugs), Congressional authority may touch more conduct than you would expect at first glance.
Posted by: Revenant at September 14, 2016 12:35 PM (3DSAh)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 14, 2016 12:36 PM (BS8yt)
They don't follow their own laws.
Government Agencies no longer obey Congress.
States are no different.
Governors and State Houses do the same.
Counties and Cities...same-same.
So why the fvck do I have to?
Because if you don't, you'll be thrown in jail. And if you resist, you'll be shot.
Any questions?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 14, 2016 12:32 PM (X6fMO)
That's the long and the short of it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:36 PM (0mRoj)
They might want to change their name from National... while they're at it. Hitler was a nationalist, as you well know.
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2016 12:36 PM (F1ndw)
Maybe NFL players who are sick of Goddell and the PC crap could like Jim McMahon did and start wearing head bans. I'd start with Fvck Goddell on it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 14, 2016 12:36 PM (OE2ur)
Don't I know it! Cuba hasn't had a new product line since the 1962 Fords arrived, and they're doing just fine with 'em!
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 14, 2016 12:37 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:37 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Yo! at September 14, 2016 12:37 PM (uPt3V)
Uncle Milty says politicians who undermine liberty need nutted.
We don't cull our ranks enough to obliterate the Safety Hammock.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 12:37 PM (SzZnW)
Will not consider giving it up, loves it.
I still think it's one of the best looking cars on the road.
Posted by: Meremortal, ride to the sound of the guns. at September 14, 2016 12:28 PM (3myMJ)
When I took it to a mechanic for a 'noise' I was hearing after moving to Missouri he said "It only has a 120K miles on it."
Yes, I'm in a semi rural area.
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:37 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: E.T. at September 14, 2016 12:37 PM (c+7Ko)
Why are states allowing this - is this every state, or just ones with Democrat governors?
This is unbelievable.
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 12:38 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: 'sup!?! at September 14, 2016 12:38 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:38 PM (/tuJf)
I recently picked up a '91 Miata, over 100,00 miles and runs like top.
Mine's at 260k and ditto. But I did need a new engine at 230k. They're stacked in warehouses in Japan and you can get the engine for $600.
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2016 12:38 PM (F1ndw)
"Its an implied power based upon Congress' oversight role."
If that's the case, it must be limited to things over which the Congress has oversight, right? Right?
I mean, like steroids in baseball, right?
We
all know, the laws, and therefore Congressional oversight, doesn't
apply to criminal malfeasance by Federal officeholders... so long as
there's a "D" after their name.
Posted by: Qoheleth at September 14, 2016 12:32 PM (iIzG7)
--In practical terms, Congress needs the DOJ on their side. The DOJ is supposed to be a neutral enforcer of the law, not a partisan political agency. But, under Obama, we have seen how that has shifted.A political DOJ, much like a political IRS, is a very dangerous thing.
Posted by: Revenant at September 14, 2016 12:38 PM (3DSAh)
So let me get this straight... the county employee that refused to
grant marraige license goes to jail but these fucks not so much ....
just great Posted by: E.T. at September 14, 2016 12:37 PM (c+7Ko)
You have to admit--she was pretty ugly.
Posted by: General Zod at September 14, 2016 12:39 PM (Bdeb0)
How about a Hillary! death watch thread?
Posted by: wth - thoroughly irredeemable at September 14, 2016 12:39 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:31 PM (0mRoj)
Janine Garafolo's understudy, I think.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:39 PM (TOk1P)
Seriously, watch some Friedman. Nobody does a better job of explaining the fallacy of protectionism.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:35 PM (/tuJf)
I don't really think that Friedman was contemplating a system that promoted industrial decline by over-regulation and over-taxation and active internal multi-national protectionist legislation.
This is not uncle Milt's America.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 14, 2016 12:39 PM (4ng05)
There are some fairly basic graphs which demonstrate that protectionism, whether it's tariffs or quotas, hurts the protectionist side.
The argument doesn't go down well around here lately, as free trade seems to no longer be part of the conservative ethic.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 14, 2016 12:39 PM (mgbwf)
We're on it!
//International Football League Commish Roger Goody
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 12:39 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Sharkman at September 14, 2016 12:25 PM (uBUhD)
Yeah, run with that. Call yourself a sovereign citizen andstop paying taxes. Print your own money. Surround yourself with like-minded friends and gather in a safe place in the woods you call 'The Compound'.
Remember: people have been thinking those kinds of happy thoughts since President Washington put down the Whiskey Rebellion. Just because you believe a certain thing is so does not make it so.
Posted by: troyriser at September 14, 2016 12:40 PM (UWlp+)
Posted by: mrp at September 14, 2016 12:40 PM (JBggj)
As a matter of fact, since it's red it would go with your hair, or eyes, or something.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
Posted by: jwest at September 14, 2016 12:33 PM (Zs4uk)
Speakin' of red and tickets....I drive too fast to own a red car. That's like flipping off a cop on the highway for me.
Beside I live outside your delivery parameters.
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:40 PM (Enq6K)
Pity the DOD sees these events as cheap advertising for recruiting. If I were the SecDef for a day, if fines are levied by the commissioner, I'd cancel all flyovers and military participation in every pre-game event.
Posted by: Deplorable Diogenes at September 14, 2016 12:40 PM (r65B3)
We can be assured he's doing this on advice of legal counsel. These congressional subpoenas don't mean jack shit, and Hillary's team knows it. From the IT guy's perspective, there is no upside to him testifying.
At this risk of sounding trollish, Republicans used to do this, too. During the Bush years, some Democrat-controlled congressional committee would run an interminable "investigation" to figure out how to blame stuff on Republicans, and issue subpoenas to Republican officials in the Bush White House, which would be ignored. I know this because the Democrats would send a photo to their BFFs in MSM showing an empty chair with Karl Rove's name on it. I remember thinking, "well played, Karl."
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 14, 2016 12:40 PM (bPMvx)
Opera clap.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:38 PM (/tuJf)
Surely I can't have been the first to say it.
And don't call me Shirley.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:40 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: joe, living deplorably at September 14, 2016 12:40 PM (KUaJL)
They are your enemy. And they live right next to you.
Posted by: LGoPs at September 14, 2016 12:40 PM (lk5o3)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 14, 2016 12:41 PM (BS8yt)
Posted by: E.T. at September 14, 2016 12:37 PM (c+7Ko)
The fully weaponized government only supports and defends the leftist agenda and punishes those who don't comply. Thanks Barry and the gutless Republicans
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 14, 2016 12:41 PM (OE2ur)
Pagliano, what a sad clown he is.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:37 PM (TOk1P)
Good joke.
Posted by: Rorshach at September 14, 2016 12:41 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Bandersnatch/i]
This would be a lot more relevant if the US actually had free trade. It doesn't. And you don't want it either.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2016 12:41 PM (V3IFq)
Are they also fining those guys who wore Kanye West's specially designed Easy Keezy Weezy Cleezies?
Or whatever.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:41 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Deplorable Diogenes at September 14, 2016 12:40 PM (r65B3)
Not with this CIC in the White House. That fuck backs the stance the NFL and koearneck are taking
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:42 PM (Ozsfq)
Should have happened sooner that guy is quak-a-roni.
Posted by: Dick Milhouse at September 14, 2016 12:42 PM (fi5nC)
Posted by: mrp at September 14, 2016 12:43 PM (JBggj)
I recently picked up a '91 Miata, over 100,00 miles and runs like top.
Mine's at 260k and ditto. But I did need a new engine at 230k. They're stacked in warehouses in Japan and you can get the engine for $600.
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2016 12:38 PM (F1ndw)
My car is a 01 Civic coupe that was going to be headed for the auction that I picked up at the dealership I used to work at. Got it with 122,000 miles for $1000, aside from needing the window motor replaced, no problems at all with it.
:hurries to find wood to knock on:
Posted by: josephistan at September 14, 2016 12:43 PM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 14, 2016 12:39 PM (mgbwf)
I don't think Trump or the majority of his supporters are giving up on free trade. All we want is fair trade.
When deals are made to allow a country to use us as a market, we should be able to sell our goods and services in that country. Up till now, none of the genius negotiators have been able to accomplish that deal.
Posted by: jwest at September 14, 2016 12:43 PM (Zs4uk)
I think the urge is for politicians and frankly people who don't understand free market economics in all countries is to ask big brother government to make things "fair" for them.
Posted by: JackStraw
You didn't answer my question, you just gave platitudes.
"Real" free trade for the US would be zero restrictions or tariffs on imports.
So a foreign country could say "100% tariffs for the Unites States!!!" and the US could not retaliate with their own quotas and restrictions. That would be "protectionist".
Things like "trade deficits" would be a meaningless number.
And many of the same arguments for the completely free movement of goods is also there for people.
This might be some fantasy of a few global elites, but the US is more than an economic trading zone.
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 12:43 PM (RbF5Z)
Should have happened sooner that guy is quak-a-roni.
Posted by: Dick Milhouse at September 14, 2016 12:42 PM (fi5nC)
He's the Bill Nye of the medical community.
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:43 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 14, 2016 12:43 PM (BS8yt)
Should have happened sooner that guy is quak-a-roni.
Posted by: Dick Milhouse at September 14, 2016 12:42 PM (fi5nC)
No just the opposite. The show is in the can and they did discuss his physical health. That was just released by the OZ show 5 minutes ago according to FOX News
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:43 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Colon Pow-wow at September 14, 2016 12:44 PM (HgMAr)
And 50% of our fellow "citizens" back him. Fuck him, and fuck them.
My loyalty to this country is being sorely tried.
Posted by: LGoPs at September 14, 2016 12:44 PM (lk5o3)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:44 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Deplorable Diogenes at September 14, 2016 12:40 PM (r65B3)
Not with this CIC in the White House. That fuck backs the stance the NFL and koearneck are taking
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:42 PM (Ozsfq)
And... it must be noted, DoD pays the NFL to let them have special events that include servicemen and women.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:44 PM (TOk1P)
Should have happened sooner that guy is quak-a-roni.
Posted by: Dick Milhouse at September 14, 2016 12:42 PM (fi5nC)
Really? FBN showed his motorcade arriving at the studio this morning to tape the show.
They are reporting though that he will talk about his child/family care program on the Oz show. I don't know how he avoids his medical tests results that he said he would reveal. That would look.....bad.
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:44 PM (Enq6K)
Really? I think that's exactly what he was contemplating.
If you haven't seen the video I posted above he is primarily arguing with a pro-protectionist economist from Berkley. You can probably guess his politics. And they are specifically arguing the history as well as the current use of protectionism in the US economy.
He goes all the way back to Alexander Hamilton and goes through the disaster with steel and the failure with protectionism in the auto industry.
These are really timeless principles. Protectionism is a short-term sugar buzz with a nasty hangover.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:44 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 12:44 PM (cHbIE)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j9gg6y8
Posted by: JackS at September 14, 2016 12:14 PM (hgwL9)
I've got that one in my files, but thanks! That's one my late Dad would still not discuss in detail, other than to wryly observe the SHTF reactions at Mare Island, with both the Brass and civilian contractors.
As for Japanese vehicles. Honda is unique, in that it came into being after WWII, without "deriving" from an established industrial powerhouse.
Mitsubishi is (justly) famous for it's WWII aircraft, Subaru comes from a major shipbuilder, Toyota made lots of Japan's WWII war material, etc.
Honda started by making high-quality piston rings, as the post WWII "Made in Japan" sources thereof, were crap. Where they got the crap to make the rings, I don't know, cause we'd already bombed the crap out of all of their factories that used to make the high-quality rings that went into fighter engines, etc.
Anyway, Honda's making piston rings led to making engines, making engines led to making and selling motorized bicycles, which led to motorcycles, which took over the world, and paved the way for the Honda automotive empire of today.
And quality has always been at the core of Honda's production, ever since those first piston rings.
Someone upthread mentioned Mitsubishi's crash test weakness. Concur. Visit any auto-body repair shop, and they'll tell ya the same.
Alas, Nissan isn't "Nissan" at heart and soul any more. Not since the French bought a controlling interest in the company in the '90s, when they were near bankruptcy.
If you've ever wondered why Nissans began to show so many design quirks around the early 2000s? Just look at a "French curve" on a protractor, and at French cars in general.
Oh, and one other thing. Honda has always kept more of a "fun to drive" quotient in their mechanical souls. G/F's 2013 Accord is an amazingly competent handling vehicle, and I've got just a wee bit of high-performance driving school in my past, so I can qualify that remark with a bit more than just "nice ride" kind of commentary.
I've put that Accord into a very difficult, decreasing radius, off camber turn, at a high entry speed, heavy braking till the suspension compressed into the turn, and smooth, part throttle through the turn to keep the torque pulling the front wheel drive, just enough to keep the suspension in a steady-compressed-state through the turn. The Accord handled it without a wobble or complaint.
Which couldn't be said of the Camry or Hyundai Elantra on their test drives through the same curve.
Fun though, to watch the salesman (and one saleswoman) blanch in fear and clench the door handles in OMG reactions. And no, I never risked catastrophe, just pushed the cars enough to get a tiny chirp of protest from the tires.
The Toyota wasn't bad, just wasn't steady. The Huyndai, with it's electric-assist power steering, is best left to grocery-getting duties, and steady interstate travel. A twisty road tool, it is not.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 14, 2016 12:45 PM (v5iqM)
Posted by: joe, living deplorably at September 14, 2016 12:40 PM (KUaJL
**********
Sounds like you gotta vote for a republican governor for the block in every damn state you can.
Dick can tell you ---these guys are crooks.
They steal an election from we one time, I try to listen in on these crook bastards--and what does everyone remember?
Watergate.
Posted by: Dick Milhouse at September 14, 2016 12:45 PM (fi5nC)
Sheet. At this stage it's no longer "fair" trade, we'll just settle for "use some more lube, 'k?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:45 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 14, 2016 12:45 PM (Mt8T4)
Posted by: Insomniac - Irredeemably Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:36 PM
No wonder .22 is still in such short supply.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 14, 2016 12:45 PM (TD9KB)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:44 PM (TOk1P)
they used to. THAT absurd practice has been halted after the story broke
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:45 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Rorshach "
I'm in tears.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:44 PM (C9pBZ)
Don't maka me cut you.
Posted by: Canio at September 14, 2016 12:46 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Jinx the Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:32 PM (TnUKj)
Well, your steering and brakes didn't "go out". They just lost the power assist. You could still steer and stop, if you put some muscle into it. My now-deceased Diesel Suburban had the hydraboost run off the steering pump, and when it developed injection pump issues, the engine would quit unexpectedly. I could still steer it and bring to a safe stop on the shoulder of the road.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 14, 2016 12:46 PM (oqkO3)
Posted by: TheQuietMan
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What's left?
Does the right wing ever do anything but move on when a place fills up with leftists? We surrender everything to them. Their cultural territory grows; ours shrinks.
Posted by: RKae at September 14, 2016 12:46 PM (i+OYT)
I'm an Uncle Milty fan par excellence Jack...
Let's try again....Uncle Milty's notion of "free trade" did not imagine an American electorate retarded enough to let EPA aggressively undermine economic efficiency in the name of "total safety/cleanliness"....
if he ever did I challenge you to show me where Uncle Milty came out in favor of the current hyper-regulatory superstate environment.
Quite the contrary he saw Hong kong becoming the engine it was BECAUSE it lacked the regulatory carnivore.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 12:47 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:44 PM (TOk1P)
they used to. THAT absurd practice has been halted after the story broke
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:45 PM (Ozsfq)
Serious question: Are we sure?
I don't put it past either of them to lie about it.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:47 PM (TOk1P)
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Wonder if they made that buy before or after the contract was announced?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2016 12:47 PM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 14, 2016 12:47 PM (kfcYC)
market, we should be able to sell our goods and services in that
country. Up till now, none of the genius negotiators have been able to
accomplish that deal. Posted by: jwest at September 14, 2016 12:43 PM (Zs4uk)
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For once, I agree. Like with immigration, unless the exporting country has reciprocal fair dealings, forget it.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 14, 2016 12:48 PM (MIKMs)
You are absolutely right, I owe my viewership to c*c*suckers who undermine my values because "cultural engagement"...my particular favorite is the use of public education for democrat recruitment.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 12:48 PM (SzZnW)
I don't put it past either of them to lie about it.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:47 PM (TOk1P)
?? How the fuck knows. I am not sure about anything anymore
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:48 PM (Ozsfq)
As Rush said: "There is no reality anymore."
The reckless and entitled lawlessness of the Democrats. The media's beyond disgraceful and utter abdication of their role. The stunning ignorance of the LIVs (including, seemingly, most college educated millenials). And the cowardly obeisance to the Democrats by most Republican office holders. The combination is surreal.
Posted by: RM at September 14, 2016 12:49 PM (U3LtS)
>>"Real" free trade for the US would be zero restrictions or tariffs on imports.
Watch the video I posted. I'm not going to argue endlessly with you about economic principles that have been known for decades.
Protectionism has never worked. Ever.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:49 PM (/tuJf)
AWEE____SSSSSOOOMMMEEE
Hey writing against the regulatory carnivore and demanding we do something about it is hard y'all...
//KD Williamson, CW WWW Cooke and NRO
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 12:50 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at September 14, 2016 12:50 PM (J8/9G)
That was pre war. Post war, the story was that a prime materials source was leftover US supplies that they used in making their "a" type engine...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:51 PM (C9pBZ)
That'll get them!
Posted by: Tami - Powering through being a Deplorable at September 14, 2016 11:52 AM
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: italic at September 14, 2016 12:51 PM (TD9KB)
Fox says he did go into his health with the doc.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:52 PM (1ZOkK)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:44 PM (/tuJf)
You could be right and I'm not trying to start an argument. I actually believe that you are right about the timelessness of the free market principles that Freidman was so great at clarifying. My point though is that this (the system we have now) is not the system he was defending. By-in-large, the true constituents of our political system are no longer the American people, but are the global corporatist powers that the Brexiters were attempting to be rid of. This isn't protectionism that protects a country from what might be portrayed as unfair advantages, but it is rather a system that protects global interests from ANY competition.
That's my perspective.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Make deplorable adorable again!) at September 14, 2016 12:52 PM (4ng05)
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 14, 2016 12:45 PM (v5iqM)
Thanks for the lengthy discussion. I am considering downsizing to a sedan for my next vehicle (which probably won't be for a year or so), and would have considered those other options to an Accord. Based on your assessment, I think I'll stick with Honda.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:52 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:52 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Cousin It at September 14, 2016 12:52 PM (oV6Oc)
This relates to a story about me being an idiot.
An American statistician, W. Edwards Deming, taught statistical methods of quality control to the Japanese after WWII. (It's gone by many names since, including six sigma, but it's all the same). Japan still gives a Deming award for quality in manufacturing.
So, when I was in business school all the smart kids were taking a one credit pass/fail statistics course. I didn't know why, and why should I bother with a one credit pass/fail course? And why were they? They all had good GPAs.
Yeah, of course, I found out too late that it was taught by Deming. I console myself with the thought that I was taught by Deming disciples.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 14, 2016 12:52 PM (mgbwf)
Fox says he did go into his health with the doc.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:52 PM (1ZOkK)
It was filmed today but will be broadcast tomorrow and apparently he DID go into his health
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: Revenant at September 14, 2016 12:19 PM (3DSAh)
THANK YOUThat's what I've been trying to tell the nevertrump dopes forever. It's not the president, it's the army of maggots from the PARTY who come with the elected official.
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (09Ay7)
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (1ZOkK)
One engineer incredulously asked, "dat soon?"
And now you know the rest of the story.
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (cHbIE)
Posted by: no good deed at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (/O5Ax)
How about a Hillary! death watch thread?
Posted by: wth - thoroughly irredeemable
We need to start planning her funeral. Never to soon to prearrange.
I can see her body placed in a giant tampon, giant applicator pushes her into the earth/Mother Gaia.
Posted by: Dang Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (k0G44)
Posted by: italic"
Nah, you're Ace's special friend, along with "centered" and "gray box".
BBL, y'all.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (09Ay7)
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at September 14, 2016 12:54 PM (vtcmf)
I don't put it past either of them to lie about it.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:47 PM (TOk1P)
?? How the f**k knows. I am not sure about anything anymore
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:48 PM (Ozsfq)
Sad, but true.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:54 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: joe, living deplorably at September 14, 2016 12:40 PM (KUaJL)
It looks like there is a system in place with some States, where the Dems have direct access to the voter registration databases, and have the ability to update and change them.
There is anecdotal evidence that the voter registration of many Bernie supporters, was changed so they could not vote in Closed Primaries.
Given the existence of the Catalyst database, which is a progressive database with fields for what you views on issues are, it is not a stretch to think it also tracks who you support. Facebook is known to give information to this database...
So it works like this... you talk about Bernie on your Facebook page, or other social media... it gets noted and sent to Catalyst...
The DNC then takes known Bernie supporters, and changes their voter registration to Repub, Green, or Independent, using their ability to update the State Voter Registration database, so they cannot vote in the closed primary.
Systems are all in place to make this happen...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 14, 2016 12:54 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (Ozsfq)
Okay. Thanks.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:54 PM (1ZOkK)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:49 PM (/tuJf)
It works for me.
Posted by: Corrupt Politician at September 14, 2016 12:54 PM (oV6Oc)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (09Ay7)
Taped today for broadcast tomorrow Thursday
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:54 PM (Ozsfq)
I could be wrong, there may have been a very few; but I remember news articles at the time from conservative outlets being stunned at how many people were willing to go under the bus for them.
Posted by: RM at September 14, 2016 12:54 PM (U3LtS)
Posted by: Ripley at September 14, 2016 12:55 PM (1BQGO)
>>if he ever did I challenge you to show me where Uncle Milty came out in favor of the current hyper-regulatory superstate environment.
>>Quite the contrary he saw Hong kong becoming the engine it was BECAUSE it lacked the regulatory carnivore.
Sven, I have no idea what you are talking about. Of course Friedman was against hyper regulatory, protectionist world we find ourselves in. Why would I be giving you examples of him saying the opposite when that is exactly what I have been saying he said?
Friedman was absolutely pro free trade and anti-protectionism. That is exactly what I've been saying. Protectionism is a Keynesian principle not a free market principle. But I don't like it because it doesn't work. Period.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:55 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Dang Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (k0G44)
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Soon afterwards, Gaia tries to eject it via a 9.1 earthquake and accompanying supervolcano eruption.
Posted by: SMFH at my deplorable self... at September 14, 2016 12:55 PM (rlfds)
Don't miss the most important part of the story. Hillary's IT guy is
more afraid of a sickly elderly lady who he no longer works for than he
is of one of the three ****ing branches of government.
Most people are more afraid of gangsters than they are of the government - that fear is why gangsters exist in the first place. Gangster government - which is what the Dems have given us - is truly something to fear.
Posted by: An Observation at September 14, 2016 12:55 PM (D+7Z3)
Posted by: Karl Marx at September 14, 2016 12:55 PM (RKJF2)
Posted by: The deplorable chiefjaybob, who hates everyone at September 14, 2016 12:55 PM (FvnN9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 14, 2016 12:55 PM (Ozsfq)
Posted by: mustbequantum
but understand, that is "protectionist" to retaliate with trade deals if a country is not meeting your demands.
I just happen to think the US makes really shitty trade deals with these countries, but I certainly do NOT think the problem with our current trade deals is they are still too "protectionist"
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 12:55 PM (RbF5Z)
However, he was not given immunity from tragic accidents, sudden depression and suicide, or any other cause of unexpected deaths that surround and follow the Clintons like a mysterious improbability cloud wherever they go. He's smart enough to realize this.
But of course, there is nothing to see here folks, it's all Republican partisanship and hot air, right! RIGHT?!
Posted by: Rolf at September 14, 2016 12:56 PM (DLsuM)
And now you know the rest of the story."
Ok, one last bit - "Datsun" was originally "Dat Car Company"
Seriously.
And dat's it.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at September 14, 2016 12:56 PM (C9pBZ)
I could be wrong, there may have been a very few; but I remember news articles at the time from conservative outlets being stunned at how many people were willing to go under the bus for them.
That's because the body count was just heating up....
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 12:56 PM (cHbIE)
Looks like we shitcanned that "rule of law" thing just in time.
Posted by: Uniparty Motherfuckers Ruling You at September 14, 2016 12:56 PM (97XyN)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 14, 2016 12:56 PM (BS8yt)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 14, 2016 12:56 PM (09Ay7)
Protectionism has never worked. Ever.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:49 PM (/tuJf)
I agree... but you're assuming a level playing field. What you have if the other side cheats (by currency manipulation, patent/copyright infringement, ect) is a unilateral disarmament on our side, with the other side benefiting from protectionism.
The reason protectionism doesn't ever work is retaliation from the other nations you're protecting against. If you are a bold protectionist country (China) you can screw over a pansy you know won't retaliate (US) and do pretty well.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 14, 2016 12:57 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: RM
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Under the bus is better than six feet under.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 14, 2016 12:57 PM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: deplorable dagny at September 14, 2016 12:56 PM (09Ay7)
That needs to be fixed before we have to put in the guillotines
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 14, 2016 12:57 PM (t06LC)
Ah, such fond times with this family.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 14, 2016 12:58 PM (2PHKP)
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Define "worked".
If your goal is growth at all costs, than sure.
If you've noticed that multicultural internationalists, who don't give a rip about Americans, have taken over both parties and are setting policies at our expense, and you want to put an end to their influence, collapsing international trade is the way to go.
There will be a contraction here as a result. There will also be a substantially greater contraction in the enemy nations (China and Mexico for example) we currently trade with.
Posted by: Laharl at September 14, 2016 12:58 PM (3Liv/)
One engineer incredulously asked, "dat soon?"
And now you know the rest of the story.
Posted by: Deplorable rickb223 at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (cHbIE)
Reminds me of when Johan Benz and Dietrich Von Mercedes got together, to consider forming a new car company. They weren't sure what to name it until Johan accidentally dropped a tire iron on Mercedes' foot, who shrieked and said "Oww Dee!"
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:58 PM (TOk1P)
Here's a guess - feel free to correct any faulty assumptions:
--If they can update voter rolls, they could possibly register a person to vote in more than one county or state to facilitate voter fraud. This could be especially effective in states where there are mail-in ballots because they wouldn't have to hustle around to various polling places on 11/8.
--If they can update voter rolls, they can possibly mess up the registration of declared Republicans/Independents so that they have difficulty voting on election day. If they could change someone's party affiliation they may have the ability to update non-declared Democrats' registration, right?
--Maybe they could also use this to pass on registrations for illegals, dead, and/or fake people? All depends on this was update only, or it included the ability to *add* new registrations.
Posted by: Lizzy, deplorable in search of a basket at September 14, 2016 12:58 PM (NOIQH)
I think we agree more than disagree. It is probably more a question of definitions and it is an extremely complex problem not well suited to blog comments.
Time to go.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:58 PM (/tuJf)
Free trade in an environment where the right refuses to attack things undermining economic efficiency is as stupid as protectionism.
Get back to me when the KD Williamson brigades can be bothered to run on idiocies like the misuse of the clean water act.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 12:58 PM (SzZnW)
142 Chaffetz "will consider a full range of options. "
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hmmm
whistle Dixie
twiddle thumbs
hold breath
stern glance
Posted by: John Bobbitt
Well, as long as he ain't JUST whistling Dixie.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 14, 2016 12:59 PM (kfcYC)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:58 PM (TOk1P)
Oh crep, I said that backwards. Dietrich dropped the tire iron on Johan's foot.
Mein Kampf, I am sucha doom cough!
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2016 12:59 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:55 PM (/tuJf)
Actually it predates Keynes. At one point the US had no income tax and was funded by tariffs...
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 14, 2016 01:00 PM (t06LC)
Seems to have worked for Al Sharpton.
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Proud Deplorable at September 14, 2016 12:53 PM (1ZOkK)
*click* *save*
Posted by: Bob at the IRS at September 14, 2016 01:01 PM (/4GEs)
It predates the English language....
Free Trade has a lot of Americans out of work because of the "carrying cost" of EPA and OSHA....
unless and until we force the politicians to confront that it is not a winning plan.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 14, 2016 01:01 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
By the time I got this thing home I was no longer able to turn the wheel. I will have to repair where it sits.
I am not a small guy, either.
Posted by: Jinx the Deplorable at September 14, 2016 01:02 PM (TnUKj)
>>"Real" free trade for the US would be zero restrictions or tariffs on imports.
Watch the video I posted. I'm not going to argue endlessly with you about economic principles that have been known for decades.
Protectionism has never worked. Ever.
Posted by: JackStraw
There are such things as unfair trade practices that should and would limit free trade. One could favor enforcement of these and still be for free trade.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 14, 2016 01:03 PM (kfcYC)
As we have seen (if we allow it) there is hardly any economic activity undertaken by American citizens that cannot be done cheaper either by moving facilities to third world countries with dirt wages and no environmental and labor regulations or by importing foreign nationals by the tens of millions to do the jobs in the United States.
What about the native-born American citizens whose jobs are replaced by cheaper, unregulated foreign nationals?
Well, we have a locked-in cradle-to-grave welfare state. Even as people are removed from the labor force, they move onto one aspect or another of the welfare regime, even, if necessary, under questionable disability status.
As the tax base erodes from higher value-added economic activity moving to where costs are cheaper, we find government increasingly resorting to deficit spending to continue to try to provide the same benefits, especially budget-busting First World health care and education, to the population.
Meanwhile, eroding real wages prompts the government to expand credit in all forms, including printing money and encouraging mortgage, student, auto, etc. debt in order to keep consumer and business spending at the previous levels to mask the economic weakening.
Free trade economic analysis tends to focus on the economic benefit from reduced prices for goods and services by cheaper foreign nationals performing this economic activity. But they don't fully account for the cost side of trying to continue to have a First World welfare state even as native-born American citizens move down the value-added chain or out of the realm of economic productivity altogether.
They have a basically globalist outlook, in which they implicitly treat the world as a single country, and presumably native-born Americans who are priced out of economic activity by regulatory arbitrage or labor cost arbitrage could move to regions of the world where economic activity is growing due to less regulation or low wages.
We still have a huge domestic market that we can use as a carrot in negotiating our trade deals. We should do so in a way that evens the playing field with unregulated, low wage countries while we still have this market and before the de-industrialization of our work force gets further advanced.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 14, 2016 01:04 PM (fgOnp)
Posted by: Jollyroger
Exactly
Now tariffs make up like 1% of the federal revenue. And income taxes on domestic companies and individuals have been created instead.
And the globalists love this because guess where they now headquarter all their operations? Not in the US.
I would like to see a dramatic increase in tariffs but it would be offset with a lowering of taxes on actual US companies.
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 01:05 PM (RbF5Z)
take a hike or wind up in Fort Marcy Park.
Where'd I put my hiking boots.
Posted by: simplemind at September 14, 2016 01:05 PM (xVRrG)
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 14, 2016 01:04 PM (fgOnp)
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We also could (and should), dismantle the welfare state.
Posted by: Revenant at September 14, 2016 01:06 PM (3DSAh)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn
What is "unfair"?
if a country sells more to us than we sell to them by a factor of a 1000 to 1, is that unfair?
I think so, but some think that's just dandy.
Posted by: Maritime at September 14, 2016 01:07 PM (RbF5Z)
here is a list from a more realistic view, of articles that deal with the Friedman position, and the several limitations on the theory of "comparative advantage".
Free trade has to consider how much we value the burdens on our own industry, in regards to pollution or worker rights or currency manipulation, and other things that we make part of producing our products, but that can be bypassed by giving our dollars to foreigners.
http://tinyurl.com/gsusgh4
Posted by: illiniwek at September 14, 2016 01:08 PM (niOEf)
One even seems to know what he's doing.
Posted by: jwest at September 14, 2016 01:09 PM (Zs4uk)
>>"Real" free trade for the US would be zero restrictions or tariffs on imports.
Watch the video I posted. I'm not going to argue endlessly with you about economic principles that have been known for decades.
Protectionism has never worked. Ever.
Posted by: JackStraw
There are such things as unfair trade practices that should and would limit free trade. One could favor enforcement of these and still be for free trade.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn
That's true Dirks, and just because the US can no longer compete doesn't mean that it's a result of unfair trade practices by the countries who are eating it's lunch.
It may be that the US has hobbled itself with regulations and costs that inhibit its ability to compete and that is the reason why its being beaten like a rented red-headed step donkey.
The real answer is its both, and fortunately President Trump has indicating a desire to address both elements.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 14, 2016 01:09 PM (kfcYC)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2016 12:55 PM (/tuJf)
Tell that to Intel and chip manufacturing in the US.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at September 14, 2016 01:09 PM (Ee2nz)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Heh. As a former engineroom nuc sub sailor I can tell you their eyeballs would have bugged out and they would have been keeping a close eye on the propeller shaft seals.
Posted by: JackS at September 14, 2016 01:09 PM (hgwL9)
We also could (and should), dismantle the welfare state.
Posted by: Revenant at September 14, 2016 01:06 PM (3DSAh)
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An open trading regime works fairly well with other similar welfare states with comparable levels of environmental and labor and safety burdens, such as Canada and Germany.
Where we are getting creamed is by requiring economic activity to meet high standards within the United States but at the same time allowing that same economic activity to move to places like China with low standards and yet still enjoy unrestricted access to sell the same goods and services into the same huge US consumer and business market.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 14, 2016 01:12 PM (fgOnp)
Posted by: JackS at September 14, 2016 01:09 PM (hgwL9)
In the Army (Airborne infantry), we would joke about the easy lives of sailors but always admitted to enormous respect for bubbleheads. Doing that kind of work under those conditions is as ballsy as it gets.
My late Stepfather was a Pacific sailor in WWII. He said there was nothing sadder than the empty mess halls reserved forsubmarine crews at Pearl. An empty mess hall for a given boat meant they didn't come back, none of them.
Brave men.
Posted by: troyriser at September 14, 2016 01:16 PM (UWlp+)
"Yeah Senator, the Clintons had lots of "buffers".
"I was in the olive oil business with Hillary's father".
"The FBI guy said: Hillary did this and Hillary did that, so I said "yeah, sure".
Posted by: jwest at September 14, 2016 01:20 PM (Zs4uk)
states with comparable levels of environmental and labor and safety
burdens, such as Canada and Germany.
Where we are getting creamed is by requiring economic activity to
meet high standards within the United States but at the same time
allowing that same economic activity to move to places like China with
low standards and yet still enjoy unrestricted access to sell the same
goods and services into the same huge US consumer and business market.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 14, 2016 01:12 PM (fgOnp)
--The European socialist systems aren't doing well either. And "low standards" is a comparative advantage in some ways. The answer isn't to force poor countries to adopt US-standards of regulation as the price of doing business in the US. It's to give fair consideration to the value of our regulations in the first place.Do we really want to have OSHA, if we can get rid of it, and employ far more people and have a more dynamic manufacturing sector? Do we really want to price people's labor out of the market by having minimum wage laws?Want to get rid of economic stagnation? Get rid of the regulation. More of the jobs that are "fleeing the country" will stay here. More people here will have jobs. No, the compensation will not be the same -- it will decline. But the current amount of consumption by the US is unsustainable. One look at the projected red ink for our mandatory entitlement programs tells that story.Americans need to adjust to a lower standard of living. We need to get people working, and off the public dole. We need to fairly assess the immense hindrance caused by our massive regulatory/entitlement state, and we need to cut accordingly.We run up the country's credit card and that keeps us from having to make these tough decisions. Its time for that to stop.
Posted by: Revenant at September 14, 2016 01:21 PM (3DSAh)
Posted by: troyriser at September 14, 2016 01:16 PM (UWlp+)
Thanks. Being on a submarine was no big deal. But humping an 80 pound sack on your back and living in some craphole? We had it easy.
Posted by: JackS at September 14, 2016 01:24 PM (hgwL9)
Okay, let's talk about free trade again after Congress and state legislatures remove the US regulatory/welfare state.
Except they won't. It's a pipe dream. We need to start the analysis with the existing fact of the US regulatory/welfare state and proceed from there, and not assuming it is not there as so much free trade economic analysis does.
There is no point allowing the American nation to bleed out economically on a point of unrealistic principle.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 14, 2016 01:26 PM (fgOnp)
Will they even do that?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 14, 2016 11:41 AM (pJeRn)
Sure they will do more than stamp their feet. They will taunt Pagliano about his elderberry scented father and they will fart in his general direction.
Posted by: centralscrutinizer at September 14, 2016 01:27 PM (vI+F1)
The sectors that have too high prices and/or too high wages are those with high levels of government interference: health care, education, housing
The rest of the economy could do fine with deflation and lower wages if this weren't the case.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2016 01:30 PM (r1fLd)
those with high levels of government interference: health care,
education, housing
The rest of the economy could do fine with deflation and lower wages if this weren't the case.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2016 01:30 PM (r1fLd)
--I agree. Deregulating/defunding health care (i.e., ending Medicare/Medicaid, repealing Obamacare, etc); ending Housing subsidies (including Fannie and Freddie, the notion of "mortgage repurchasing" by the government and FHA loans), and ending government issued student loans (and making student loans dischargable in bankruptcy), would be a great start.
Posted by: Revenant at September 14, 2016 01:37 PM (3DSAh)
analysis with the existing fact of the US regulatory/welfare state and
proceed from there, and not assuming it is not there as so much free
trade economic analysis does.
There is no point allowing the American nation to bleed out economically on a point of unrealistic principle.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 14, 2016 01:26 PM (fgOnp)
--The existing fact is that America is a cancer patient and that protectionism is a snake oil remedy (or, at best, a species of palliative care). This particular lymphoma is a society who has been conditioned through normalcy bias for so long to expect a certain standard of living, coupled with a government that increasingly struggles to provide welfare/entitlement benefits and easy credit to people to continue the illusion that their preferred standard of living can be maintained.Perhaps, at this point, the patient is too far gone to take the cure, and will instead choose the snake oil. But that doesn't mean that we should expect good results from it.
Posted by: Revenant at September 14, 2016 01:42 PM (3DSAh)
I'm fine with reducing the regulatory state and agree that it needs to be done.
But until we do, we need to have a counter-balancing mechanism so that goods and services from unregulated countries imported into the US market carry the same economic burden as what is required of US companies.
Otherwise, we are just cutting off our nose to spite our face.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at September 14, 2016 01:48 PM (fgOnp)
All I know is I ain't voting for no greedy 70-year with unbridled ambition whose husband is still dicking bimbos at home.
Posted by: Colin Powell at September 14, 2016 01:58 PM (fgOnp)
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