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Mid-Morning Open Thread [CBD]
Green, Yellow and Orange
Georgia O'Keeffe
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 09:44 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 09:45 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 19, 2016 09:46 AM (u0s1P)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 19, 2016 09:46 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 09:47 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 19, 2016 09:47 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Patrick Henry at August 19, 2016 09:47 AM (TyBdB)
I dunno I know it makes me a heathen but I think "art" should look like something beyond what my son could do at age 4.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 19, 2016 09:47 AM (SzZnW)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 09:47 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 09:47 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: steevy at August 19, 2016 09:47 AM (fA75F)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 09:48 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: George Kennedy at August 19, 2016 09:49 AM (qlPzn)
The digestive system of lemon jello.*
*Plate 236 - naturalfake's Atlas of the Gross Anatomy of Desserts
Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2016 09:49 AM (HGtd0)
"Top Secret Aerial Surveillance Photo of Central Peruvia in Autumn at the Confluence of the Poco Grande and the No Mas Loco Rivers"
(a little lengthy, but catchy, no?)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2016 09:49 AM (wPiJc)
The best I can say for this is that it fits in with our theme this week.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2016 09:50 AM (805dc)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 09:50 AM (mgbwf)
Georgia O'Keeffe
Uh-huh ... Yeah ... Hmmmmm ....
Well, I guess it beats those blank canvases, at least.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 09:50 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 19, 2016 09:50 AM (77emZ)
itsy bitsy, teeny weeny, yellow polka dot bikini ....
or at least that's the color I'm envisioning it to be.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 19, 2016 09:51 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2016 09:51 AM (JO9+V)
By the time I got back from looking for it, I was willowed.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2016 09:51 AM (805dc)
Posted by: George Kennedy at August 19, 2016 09:49 AM (qlPzn)
Eyes don't fail me now!
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2016 09:52 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2016 09:52 AM (2Mnv1)
Posted by: WaitingForMartel at August 19, 2016 09:53 AM (BYSrJ)
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2016 09:53 AM (JO9+V)
By the time I got back from looking for it, I was willowed.
--
Thank you so much! I got it and will be making this soon for sure. Sans fresh lemons!
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 19, 2016 09:54 AM (+FSld)
A week with photography would be pretty cool.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 19, 2016 09:54 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 09:11 AM (9P3OG)
I
don't which one of the founders it was, but one of them is quoted as
saying that you could not totally eliminate corruption and malfeasance
in government because it was staffed with humans. The only thing you can
do is minimize it to the smallest amount possible by minimizing
government to the smallest amount possible.
But since the end of
the uncivil war that has all gone out the window. Silent Cal rolled it
back some during his day, but those gains were immediately wiped out by
Hoover and FDR and steadily made worse.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 09:54 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 19, 2016 09:54 AM (ZnIt3)
that the next thing is long haul trucking. Driverless trucks.
The trucks will communicate with each other and draft to improve
mileage. They'll be supposedly safe because their speed will be tightly
regulated.
I'm scared to death of Big Scary Trucks as it is. All I need is a fleet of Skynet 18 wheelers.
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[considers covering "Convoy" with a robotic voice modulator; maybe the Steven Hawkins type.]
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 19, 2016 09:54 AM (77emZ)
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 19, 2016 09:54 AM (+FSld)
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Good. We have our standards.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2016 09:55 AM (805dc)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 09:55 AM (mpXpK)
Wtf?
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 19, 2016 09:54 AM (ZnIt3)
LOL. They should give him two medals.
And why are they testing for rat poison?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 09:55 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 09:56 AM (QvdcM)
Posted by: WaitingForMartel at August 19, 2016 09:56 AM (BYSrJ)
Yes it looks like it would be delicious! I was wondering if there were a way to cook the rice in the pan at the same time, but I guess it would be soggify the chicken,
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 09:56 AM (wCEn4)
A week with photography would be pretty cool.
Vargas girls or nose art.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 09:57 AM (ksPsw)
Suggestions:
Steiglitz (Georgia O'Keefe's husband {boyfriend?})
Edward Weston
Ansel Adams (because you can't not)
Dorothea Lange
Mapplethorpe (no, I'm not being ironic)
and maybe Herb Ritts or Albert Watson for modern cred.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 09:57 AM (mgbwf)
that the next thing is long haul trucking. Driverless trucks.
The trucks will communicate with each other and draft to improve
mileage. They'll be supposedly safe because their speed will be tightly
regulated.
I'm scared to death of Big Scary Trucks as it is. All I need is a fleet of Skynet 18 wheelers.
============
[considers covering "Convoy" with a robotic voice modulator; maybe the Steven Hawkins type.]
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 19, 2016 09:54 AM (77emZ)
VOICE ON CB: Your brakes aren't working! You've got to go into the emergency pulloff!
HAL 9000 VOICE: I'm sorry, good buddy, I can't do that.
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 09:57 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 09:57 AM (xxSK3)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 09:56 AM (QvdcM)
Still looks better than Hope Solo's squeakhole.
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 09:58 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 09:57 AM (ksPsw)
Not what I was suggesting!
Well, maybe a little.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 19, 2016 09:58 AM (KUaJL)
Amazing how some of those old dead white guys foresaw how human nature would eventually screw up everything!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 09:58 AM (wCEn4)
Steiglitz (Georgia O'Keefe's husband {boyfriend?})
Edward Weston
Ansel Adams (because you can't not)
Dorothea Lange
Mapplethorpe (no, I'm not being ironic)
and maybe Herb Ritts or Albert Watson for modern cred.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 09:57 AM (mgbwf)
Errrr ... I'll stick with the fingerpainting we've got.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 09:58 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 09:56 AM (wCEn4)
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I've never tried to do that, but I think you're right, because in order to get the rice to cook properly you'd have to cover the pan with foil, and there goes your crispy skin. You want that crispy skin.
My daughters have made this when they were away at college and people come sniffing around, lol.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2016 09:58 AM (805dc)
Amazing how some of those old dead white guys foresaw how human nature would eventually screw up everything!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 09:58 AM (wCEn4)
A Republic if you can keep it.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2016 10:00 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: NCKate at August 19, 2016 10:00 AM (v8s6L)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:00 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 19, 2016 10:00 AM (Ee2nz)
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[considers covering "Convoy" with a robotic voice modulator; maybe the Steven Hawkins type.]
Posted by: RoyalOil
...got a delivery here for ya, one super-sized Green Goblin mask.
/checks paperwork
...my bad, that's for jwest.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 19, 2016 10:00 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:00 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: DaveA at August 19, 2016 10:01 AM (8J/Te)
Driverless semi-tractor/trailers with bad brakes are what nightmares are made of.
Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2016 10:01 AM (2Mnv1)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2016 10:01 AM (lrqKz)
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2016 10:01 AM (GLfTv)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 10:02 AM (6t8+a)
You know what's funny? They're going to let autonomous cars all over the roads while there will still be drivers on trains and subway cars. You would think, if they are even close to autonomous driving that they would have already fully automated friggin cars that run on tracks!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 10:03 AM (zc3Db)
Either that or a hemorrhoid being removed using ancient chinese threading technique.
Posted by: spypeach at August 19, 2016 10:03 AM (nyYhO)
As far as her choice of title, "Green, Yellow Orange": It lacks irony and tension and suffocates the viewer with the obvious.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 19, 2016 10:03 AM (4AVeu)
Steiglitz (Georgia O'Keefe's husband {boyfriend?})
Edward Weston
Ansel Adams (because you can't not)
Dorothea Lange
Mapplethorpe (no, I'm not being ironic)
and maybe Herb Ritts or Albert Watson for modern cred.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 09:57 AM (mgbwf)
LeRoy Neiman?
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2016 10:03 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2016 10:01 AM (lrqKz)
I saw Proctological Bullwhips open for Butthole Surfers in San Francisco in 1989. It was...graphic.
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:03 AM (RD7QR)
If you ever heard Donovan bellow
You'd shake like a bowl full of Jell-O
And if you should meet him
Make sure you greet him:
With "Hello there, Mellow Yellow fellow!"
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2016 10:03 AM (wPiJc)
411 A Jaundiced View of Saffron- A silly limerick in keeping with the theme of the week:
If you ever heard Donovan bellow
You'd shake like a bowl full of Jell-O
And if you should meet him
Make sure you greet him:
With "Hello there, Mellow Yellow fellow!"
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2016 10:01 AM (wPiJc)
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2016 10:03 AM (805dc)
would have already fully automated friggin cars that run on tracks!
Maybe private car drivers need to unionize?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (NOIQH)
autonomous driving that they would have already fully automated friggin
cars that run on tracks!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Union. Protected. Jobs.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (RFeQD)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:00 AM (NOIQH)
Gotta wipe off the screen again.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (lrqKz)
30 Weightlifter Tests Positive for Rat Poison, Loses Medal
Wtf?
Anecdote alert! Apparently, the big bridge (as in cards) association was once lobbying for bridge to be an Olympic
Assuming that's true and not much more involved, I can see both sides. The Olympics should have some standards that apply across the board, but still, yeah. Bridge.
This goes hand-in-hand with my semi-serious proposal for the Anything Goes Olympics: no drug testing, because everything is allowed and even encouraged. Let's see what human limits can be pushed to.
And how the probable deaths that would result would impact future participation. Win-win.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (u0s1P)
If you bing "steiglitz georgia o'keefe" with safe search off you see a lot.
He was a legit pioneering photographer, btw. Each was an acclaimed artist in xer own right and medium.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (mgbwf)
I met a guy last night who works in AI and robotics. He's pretty sure
that the next thing is long haul trucking. Driverless trucks.
The trucks will communicate with each other and draft to improve
mileage. They'll be supposedly safe because their speed will be tightly
regulated.
I'm scared to death of Big Scary Trucks as it is. All I need is a fleet of Skynet 18 wheelers.
============
[considers covering "Convoy" with a robotic voice modulator; maybe the Steven Hawkins type.]
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 19, 2016 09:54 AM (77emZ)
Sounds semi-feasible in good weather, at least on paper. The moment you get rain or snow on the roads, the convoy becomes a death trap for anyone sharing the road.
Winter before last, when I moved from CA to TX, we drove through a NASTY ice storm in W TX that had semi-trucks scattered all over the highways, rolled over or blasted into wreckage. I literally counted over 70 wrecked big rigs on I-20 between Midland and Abilene before I had to stop counting because the roads were getting too dangerous to be distracted.
It terrifies me to think of huge semis on the road without drivers.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (xxSK3)
autonomous cars all over the roads while there will still be drivers on
trains and subway cars. You would think, if they are even close to
autonomous driving that they would have already fully automated friggin
cars that run on tracks!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 10:03 AM (zc3Db)>>>
I'm pretty sure that is a big city Union issue.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (wrS2o)
I like the hawt bikini babe more. FYI, that's not Georgia.
Posted by: Hank at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (3jkkr)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zkaoz5c
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (LLuRe)
autonomous driving that they would have already fully automated friggin
cars that run on tracks!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Union. Protected. Jobs.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (RFeQD)
Even better - government union protected jobs.
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 10:05 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 10:05 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: Robert W Chambers at August 19, 2016 10:05 AM (mL2BD)
Annie Liebeovitz?
Here Perelli calendar for 2017 is da bomb!!
Posted by: Amy Schumer & Lena Dunham at August 19, 2016 10:06 AM (NOIQH)
wondering if there were a way to cook the rice in the pan at the same
time, but I guess it would be soggify the chicken,
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 09:56 AM (wCEn4)
Sorry to butt in but...you could put some chicken broth in the pan, add the rice and then put the chicken on top of it. Cover it and then take the cover off last 15 mins. The chicken would still get crispy on top.
FBN: Maniford resigns!
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 10:06 AM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2016 10:06 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Hank at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (3jkkr)
But she is a peach.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 10:06 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 10:06 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: KITT, doing 75MPH at August 19, 2016 10:06 AM (2Mnv1)
Driverless semi-tractor/trailers with bad brakes are what nightmares are made of.
What's the difference between that and the mexican big rigs coming up from Mexico? Might as well be driverless.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:06 AM (ksPsw)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zkaoz5c
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 10:04 AM (LLuRe)
Oh God, I don't think I could take a week of debates about The War of Northern Aggression.
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:07 AM (RD7QR)
Yeah, I know. And that's not my thing.
Look at his female nudes ("Some Women" and "Lady" are great books), or his photographs of flowers or marble statues.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 10:07 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 09:47 AM (7HtZB)
She actually was when she was young. However, all of those years with Alfred Stieglitz, famous photographer and all-around controlling, womanizing asshole, took away her looks.
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 10:07 AM (OGbEB)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:07 AM (wg0zd)
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 10:06 AM (Enq6K)
Man, I murderated his name, huh?
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM (Enq6K)
Photographer?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 10:05 AM (mgbwf)
Now you are just nitpicking.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM (0tfLf)
Man, the Horde got cheated. All we got were a couple podcasts with Jindal and Fiorina.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2016 10:06 AM (IqV8l)
The week Trump actually is on message, sounding Presidential, and is planning to visit flood-ravaged Louisiana, is the week his campaign staff gets exploded. What do you think our friends in the MSM will focus on?
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM (6t8+a)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2016 10:06 AM (IqV8l)
No surprise. But the Donald needs to get a proper campaign manager now, stat.
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 10:09 AM (7HtZB)
Fawn Liebowitz?
Still life in pottery
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM (6t8+a)
Hahahahahaha
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2016 10:09 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM (RD7QR)
I believe he tapped Kellyann Conway.
...for the role of campaign manager, sickos.
Posted by: Phone of kari at August 19, 2016 10:09 AM (cuZNl)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 10:10 AM (QvdcM)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 19, 2016 10:11 AM (ovpZu)
Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2016 10:11 AM (ry34m)
Posted by: nip at August 19, 2016 10:11 AM (L5nkE)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:07 AM (RD7QR)
There is a very good painting showing South Carolina militia men firing the first shots of the war. Give me some time and I'll track it down.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 10:11 AM (LLuRe)
Posted by: @votermom at August 19, 2016 10:12 AM (7lVbc)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM (RD7QR)
I believe he tapped Kellyann Conway.
...for the role of campaign manager, sickos.
Posted by: Phone of kari at August 19, 2016 10:09 AM (cuZNl)
Is she luxurious and classy?
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:12 AM (RD7QR)
Well...at least it isn't dogs playing poker on black crushed velvet.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM
Or velvet Elvis.
https://youtu.be/jPE3p4kLgL8
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2016 10:12 AM (IqV8l)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Matt-Henry-photography-1.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:12 AM (wg0zd)
Anyhoo, I found a print, had it framed and it's in my man cave.
Posted by: Hank at August 19, 2016 10:13 AM (3jkkr)
Posted by: Peter Maxx at August 19, 2016 10:13 AM (qlPzn)
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM
Or velvet Elvis.
https://youtu.be/jPE3p4kLgL8
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2016 10:12 AM (IqV8l)
Or sad clowns, or urchin yutes with big eyes.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2016 10:14 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: an angry man at August 19, 2016 10:14 AM (2WoCi)
He is a total creep! Ick.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/oktpmqz
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:14 AM (NOIQH)
107 Just waiting for Billy Jeff Clinton to make a cameo...
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Matt-Henry-photography-1.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:12 AM (wg0zd)
What is that? Rape of the Sabines?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:15 AM (xxSK3)
Another is accident avoidance. If you have a split second to jam on the brakes, or swerve, or what, there's limited accountability if something crazy like logs rolling off a trailer. You do the best you can because there's no time to think.
But the car needs to be programmed on how to react-- does it swerve to miss a cyclist? Does it swerve and hit a car, the idea being that the cyclist would be dead but the car's driver would survive? Does it prioritize its own safety (and that of its occupant) over said cyclist? It's basically setting up the autonomous vehicle as a vigilante who decides who's more valuable.
So those are worrisome issues. I could see some highways set up as autonomous-only, or remote-linked-only, but that's pretty 1% and would probably be unpopular. (And then, of course, hackers.)
Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 19, 2016 10:15 AM (u0s1P)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 10:15 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: setnaffa at August 19, 2016 10:15 AM (jl6Ly)
But I am a much bigger fan of that 60's babe - who is it?
Posted by: Chi at August 19, 2016 10:15 AM (yy7cB)
Pravda media who supports the serial liar, money launderer, corrupt physically ill Clinton won't tell you any of this, however:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jcv4hh7
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2016 10:15 AM (6HqlZ)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2016 10:16 AM (wPiJc)
It's just too much of a "too good to be true" with far too many lefties passing it around for emotional blackmail.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 19, 2016 10:16 AM (77emZ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 19, 2016 10:16 AM (LA+m3)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2016 10:17 AM (PFy0L)
The pre-jihadi?
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:17 AM (ksPsw)
Odd fact of the day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Custer
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 19, 2016 10:17 AM (LLuRe)
http://www.matthenryphoto.com/#home
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:17 AM (wg0zd)
The worst problem with autonomous cars (that no one ever talks about, for some reason) is that they can be stopped dead with cardboard obstructions. A couple of pieces of cardboard standing up in the road and the var can't tell that they're cardboard so it has to stop. Carjackers and muggers are licking their lips at the prospect of autonomous cars trying to tool through their neighborhoods. Like shooting fish in a barrel ... and there's no way to fix this.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 10:18 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: LizLem at August 19, 2016 10:18 AM (qrG6s)
Sometimes you have to go through a pervert to get to Kate Upton.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 10:18 AM (QvdcM)
"
Maybe it's the return of "Green Helmut Guy"?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 10:18 AM (6t8+a)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:07 AM (RD7QR)
I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to those particular debates. Guiltier. Getting better, though. I can even let that 'War of Northern Aggression' stuff slide. My Union ancestors don't need me to stick up for them.
That said: Suck it, Grays.
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 10:18 AM (OGbEB)
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 19, 2016 10:19 AM (ZnIt3)
Hmm, I have a pan with a rack that would keep the chicken elevated slightly above the rice while letting the juices drip into the rice!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 10:19 AM (wCEn4)
Posted by: @votermom at August 19, 2016 10:19 AM (7lVbc)
So those are worrisome issues. I could see some highways set up as autonomous-only, or remote-linked-only, but that's pretty 1% and would probably be unpopular. (And then, of course, hackers.)
Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 19, 2016 10:15 AM (u0s1P)
The whole philosophical question of "who should the driverless car try to save? the person in it or someone outside" seems like a no-brainer to me. You prioritize the people in the car. Because otherwise nobody would very buy one. We don't fault a human in an accident for trying to save themselves (and their passengers), why should we program a robot to be any different?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 19, 2016 10:19 AM (KUaJL)
Nope. Already compared to the dead kid on the beach - a senseless death caused by his dad, who was not fleeing war-torn Syria, but leaving Turkey because he wanted a better paying job, better benefits in Europe.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:20 AM (NOIQH)
I take it then, those are fallopian tubes?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:20 AM (TOk1P)
chicken elevated slightly above the rice while letting the juices drip
into the rice!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 10:19 AM (wCEn4)
There ya go! The rice would be very tasty.
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 10:20 AM (Enq6K)
Bing "Green Helmet Guy", or visit our very own Zombie's website for a blast from the past.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 10:20 AM (6t8+a)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2016 10:20 AM (lrqKz)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:07 AM
North: 1 South: 0 Halftime
Don't think of it as debates; think of it as the halftime show.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2016 10:20 AM (PaMwv)
I can't be the only one saying that photo of the little boy "pulled" from the rubble of an airstrike in Syria is staged.
It's just too much of a "too good to be true" with far too many lefties passing it around for emotional blackmail.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 19, 2016 10:16 AM
It sure wouldn't be the first time.
Even the panel on "The Five" were saying "how can we look at this photo and do nothing?"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2016 10:20 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:07 AM (RD7QR)
You're kidding, right. It'a almost as groovy as the Catholic/Protestant slugfests. :^(
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2016 10:21 AM (6HqlZ)
Wtf?
Warfarin? Is that the substance in question here?
Hell, I take warfarin every day (prescribed). It's a blood-thinner. Not sure how it helps weight-lifting, though.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 10:21 AM (rO2Be)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2016 10:21 AM (wPiJc)
I have no doubt the child was genuinely injured.
I think the photog put him in the seat and used some license to scruff him up a bit first, then yeah, staged the shot.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2016 10:22 AM (PFy0L)
Particularly because Google and Ford (IIRC) don;t want any human-driving controls included in them. There would be no manual driving/programming override options.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:22 AM (NOIQH)
Jug Ears is going to try to smack a golf ball with a message on it all the way to LA from Martha's Vineyard.
Posted by: Hank at August 19, 2016 10:22 AM (3jkkr)
Send in 500,000 more male adult single Syrians to America without families to make up for it!!! Ugh
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2016 10:22 AM (6HqlZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:22 AM (wg0zd)
----------------
Haven't seen the photo you mention, but I'll assume it was from the AP & form opinions from there...
Remember all the staged/photoshopped pics that were published at the onset of the Iraq war a few years back?
Posted by: Chi at August 19, 2016 10:22 AM (yy7cB)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 10:23 AM (QvdcM)
There would be no manual driving/programming override options.
That's just stupid. It would have to have a 100% reliability rate, otherwise some poor granny would wind up owning Ford or Google.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:23 AM (ksPsw)
Rush calls them Trumpbart, which is equal parts accurate and hilarious.
Posted by: LizLem at August 19, 2016 10:23 AM (qrG6s)
It's just too much of a "too good to be true" with far too many lefties passing it around for emotional blackmail.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 19, 2016 10:16 AM (77emZ)
If we're going to be strategizing around the possibility of civilian casualties, we've already lost.
I would venture to say, no one in the history of mankind and warfare, has ever won, when they were worried about little boys being pulled out of rubble as a result of their actions against an enemy.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:24 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 10:24 AM (Enq6K)
I suppose the argument is that computer-driven trucks will be better able to respond and less dangerous. Which is assuming facts not in evidence and will get a lot of people killed. I'm guessing the geniuses proposing this haven't spoken to truckers much less driven a truck.
John used to drive I-25 between Ft. Collins and Cheyenne and there were *always* blown over trucks after a windstorm. There is no way a computer will be able to adjust for gusting/swirling winds where the air is still one minute and a 50+ mph wall the next.
Also, do we want some over-arching authority to have that much control over where needed supplies go? Seems easy to abuse and today's technocrats would have no more problem starving the opposition than any of their ideological forefathers.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 19, 2016 10:24 AM (GDulk)
Posted by: Flannery O'Connor at August 19, 2016 10:24 AM (qlPzn)
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty. at August 19, 2016 10:24 AM (WqEER)
Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2016 10:24 AM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:25 AM (wg0zd)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 10:23 AM (QvdcM)
Sure there are. The easy answer is, you show me pictures of your casualties, I send you more bombs.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:25 AM (TOk1P)
That was from green foosball before the site went nuts.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2016 10:25 AM (lrqKz)
District 1 gets 95% of the trucks. Rest of the Districts get to fight over the rest.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:26 AM (ksPsw)
*ahem*
"Maximum Overdrive" written and directed by Stephen King, starring Emilio Estevez.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:26 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:25 AM (TOk1P)
Until you surrender.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:26 AM (TOk1P)
The article mentioned stricynine. Says it's an aid to endurance first used by le Tour de France bicycle peeps. We'll have to mention it to Ace, when he 'hits the wall'.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 19, 2016 10:27 AM (ZnIt3)
There's got to be a clinical definition for this.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 19, 2016 10:27 AM (RKJF2)
What are you talking about?
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 19, 2016 10:27 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: Hank at August 19, 2016 10:27 AM (3jkkr)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 19, 2016 10:27 AM (CHNqM)
Posted by: Obama at August 19, 2016 10:28 AM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 10:28 AM (QvdcM)
Particularly
because Google and Ford (IIRC) don;t want any human-driving controls
included in them. There would be no manual driving/programming override
options.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:22 AM (NOIQH)
Johnny Cab for all your transportation needs!
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2016 10:28 AM (JO9+V)
Wait...is someone transferring bombs to Syria?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 10:28 AM (6t8+a)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:29 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:23 AM (ksPsw)
Well we certainly do not have 100% reliability, with human drivers.
So... unless and until we get to 100% all-machine driven vehicles, the error rate is going to be a multiple of human error times machine error. Made worse by the combination of the two sharing the same roads.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:29 AM (TOk1P)
Voter Mom re: The Tick. Will be hard to capture the magic from the cartoon or comic I think. "Spoon!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:29 AM (wg0zd)
No. Auto pilot can be overrode. Very few chances of a dog or a child running out in front of you at 30,000 feet.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:30 AM (ksPsw)
Also, you never know what some overpaid idiot will do by accident...
"Hey, LaQuiandrinisha, check this out! Those 'self-driving'
trucks, you know how they roll? I bet we can speed 'em all up and get our shit faster if we click this 'Maximum Overdrive' thing here..."
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 19, 2016 10:30 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: random lurker at August 19, 2016 10:30 AM (WF5ei)
Is it ironic no one worries about auto pilot in a plane?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 10:28 AM (QvdcM)
Not really. There's still a flight crew. And it's a big, three dimensional sky up there.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:30 AM (xxSK3)
-------------------------------
Wait...is someone transferring bombs to Syria?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 10:28 AM (6t8+a)
Transferring?
Honestly, I have no idea what we're doing in Syria, and I suspect neither does our government.
However, if... and that's a big IF we are sending bombs to Syria, I'm hoping we're sending them new, and they arrived used.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:31 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:31 AM (wg0zd)
I picked up the tiny "in ear" hearing aids a few days ago. They have a totally different sound than the "behind the ear" models I've been trying for a week.
They have a tinny sound.
Also, they block the air to the inner ear so it feels like you're changing pressure in an airplane.
This is not good.
I'm going back to the originals. Much more comfortable.
Use this information, because I'm sure there are a lot of morons here that need them too.
"WHAT?" "WHAT DID JWEST SAY?'
Posted by: jwest at August 19, 2016 10:31 AM (Zs4uk)
*****
Interesting idea. We could call them...ummm...I've got it...
...railways!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2016 10:31 AM (wPiJc)
There's got to be a clinical definition for this.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 19, 2016 10:27 AM (RKJF2)
Rube-itussin?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2016 10:31 AM (kKHcp)
Also skeptical about how they'll handle extreme weather and the unexpected.
It's a plaintiffs' lawyers paradise.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2016 10:31 AM (r1fLd)
Posted by: Alanis Morissette at August 19, 2016 10:31 AM (2WoCi)
True. And THEY get sued. Now, take the responsibility away from a human & build a car without controls and see where the lawsuit falls on.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:32 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 10:32 AM (QvdcM)
Trains are nice.
"Don't stand between the rails kid"
Beyond that, they're pretty safe and predictable.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 10:32 AM (6t8+a)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2016 10:32 AM (wPiJc)
"Your automatic pilot should automatically deploy."
"But but he's getting limp."
"Well there is an inflation valve in case of that."
"Where is it?"
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:33 AM (wg0zd)
Posted by: Julie Hagerty at August 19, 2016 10:34 AM (wPiJc)
the error rate is going to be a multiple of human error times machine
error. Made worse by the combination of the two sharing the same
roads.
Aaaand that is exactly where I see this going. Our government betters will tell us this is the only way, and we *must* do it for safety. They'll be thrilled at the prospect of being able to shut down cars remotely as needed as well as having some sort of central control on driving routes (easy way to shut down road/control citizens' freedom of movement).
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:34 AM (NOIQH)
Even the panel on "The Five" were saying "how can we look at this photo and do nothing?"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2016 10:20 AM (IqV8l)
Probably a reflection on my lack of compassion, but I looked at that photo and thought that I could care less even if it was real (which I doubted). If you wage anything like total war, massive collateral damage is the price both sides might pay.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 10:34 AM (wCEn4)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:32 AM (ksPsw)
The answer is: TORT REFORM!!!
Posted by: N. Denton at August 19, 2016 10:34 AM (TOk1P)
Monroe contains the graves of numerous Custer relatives, including two of his nephews who also died at the Battle of the Little Bighorn.
There is a Custerphile who has a very detailed site about Custer, with lots of information and photos of the graves in Monroe and the homesites that are still left there.
Dandy, Custers horse that survived is supposedly buried someone on Libbie's last residence in Monroe, a farm, before she moved to NYC.
http://custerlives.com/custer28.htm
Posted by: Jen the original at August 19, 2016 10:35 AM (JbgDR)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2016 10:35 AM (lrqKz)
Is it ironic no one worries about auto pilot in a plane?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 10:28 AM (QvdcM)
Not really. There's still a flight crew. And it's a big, three dimensional sky up there.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:30 AM (xxSK3)
And auto pilot just keeps the plane straight & level. It's not expected to land the plane.
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 10:35 AM (7HtZB)
I'd slightly trust them if they could build a traffic light system that didn't shit the bed when it rains.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:36 AM (ksPsw)
"They're called trains."
Trains are nice.
"Don't stand between the rails kid"
Beyond that, they're pretty safe and predictable.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 10:32 AM (6t8+a)
But that restricts where you can put the Fun Camps. Autonomous semitrucks towing Cattle Cars means access to a lot more potential real estate.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:36 AM (xxSK3)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 10:36 AM (QvdcM)
Wolverines!!!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 10:36 AM (6t8+a)
Exhibition Director: "Shit, I dunno."
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 10:36 AM (JBggj)
*****
Wait...what?
Posted by: Young Kal El and Krypto at August 19, 2016 10:36 AM (wPiJc)
Posted by: zombie Ronald Reagan at August 19, 2016 10:36 AM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 10:36 AM (QvdcM)
No. Just Milla Jovovich.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 10:37 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: dananjcon at August 19, 2016 10:37 AM (NpXoL)
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 10:35 AM (7HtZB)
I believe most of the new planes can land themselves.
Posted by: jwest at August 19, 2016 10:37 AM (Zs4uk)
CNN, "Today a Google semi went off the lip of the Grand Canyon. Two million Glenn Beck Teddy Bears were in it."
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:37 AM (wg0zd)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:32 AM (ksPsw)
Ah comrade, your failure to understand crony corporatism is showing. No "citizen" will be allowed to sue Google because it will have an exclusive license from the Department of Highway Safety and thus not liable for damages.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 10:37 AM (wCEn4)
Even the panel on "The Five" were saying "how can we look at this photo and do nothing?"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2016 10:20 AM (IqV8l)
Best way to limit casualties is to eliminate their ability to wage warfare, quickly.
Posted by: random lurker at August 19, 2016 10:37 AM (WF5ei)
Trump is in Louisiana and Barry is still on a golf course. And the MFM is silent about all of it.
I heard Jerry Rivers say that Barry should have gone to LA but Katrina was ten thousand times worse so you can't compare this to Katrina or Barry's response to Bush. Intercourse him with a rusty goalpost sideways.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2016 10:37 AM (493sH)
Bonus question: What was the autopilots name?
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:38 AM (r65B3)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2016 10:35 AM (lrqKz)
Do Not Forget! There are presstitutes and photographers there who allow the scene to be staged, over and over, to get the right angle etc.
So there are "journalists" out there who damn well know the truth and hide it.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2016 10:38 AM (kKHcp)
Posted by: AceTheCollaborator at August 19, 2016 10:38 AM (/sHci)
Jeb Stuart was trying to circle around from the rear and split the Union line. Custer had a much inferior force but it was a narrow road and he was able to hold it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 10:38 AM (mgbwf)
Bing "Autoland System"
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 10:38 AM (6t8+a)
I think the photog put him in the seat and used some license to scruff him up a bit first, then yeah, staged the shot.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2016 10:22 AM (PFy0L)
Reminds me of the famous Time Life photo of the naked vietnamese girl running down a road crying, naked, because her village was napalmed and her clothes burned off? Which made no sense, but it was effective.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 19, 2016 10:38 AM (JbgDR)
I can't be the only one saying that photo of the little boy "pulled" from the rubble of an airstrike in Syria is staged.>>>
Mostly just made me think of all the people covered in that kind of dust from 9-11
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 19, 2016 10:39 AM (wrS2o)
And auto pilot just keeps the plane straight & level. It's not expected to land the plane.
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 10:35 AM (7HtZB)
Actually, IIRC several of the newer high-tech airliner models have auto-landing systems for emergency use.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:39 AM (xxSK3)
The other day I noticed I have, 3 pictures of women in red dresses on my walls. The pictures and women are very different - one is a 1920's flapper, another is in a evening gown waltzing with a man, and other is a young girl surrounded by dogs and kittehs - and I wasn't consciously looking for prints of women in red (the color scheme of my living room and hallway is gray, black, white and red) - but red is my favorite color and I've owned quite a few red dresses myself over the years.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 10:39 AM (u0lmX)
Bonus question: What was the autopilots name?
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:38 AM (r65B3)
Right at the crash site.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2016 10:39 AM (JO9+V)
It is my belief that the major issue with Islam isn't whether it is moderate or a "religion of peace", or that it deserves respect as being one of the great monotheistic religions.
I believe the greatest issue with Islam is its regard for life. It has none. Even individually, Muslims regard life as utterly worthless. That, if one really dwells on it, is a huge issue.
It can be debated with what regard we should the afterlife, but as far as anyone knows for sure, this life is the one we have.
The other major monotheistic religions generally hold this life in pretty high regard, as precious even. In Islam, that simply is not the case. There is nothing precious about life in Islam and worse, that aspect of Islam is what is being capitalized on by the left and the globalists.
I believe we should spent some time thinking about this, because this is a huge thing. For decades, there have been those who have seen humanity as being a scourge on the earth. That, at least in my opinion, is probably not the healthiest attitude to have for humanity. Holding Islam in any regard other than contempt, is not the healthiest attitude to have for humanity either.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 19, 2016 10:39 AM (4ng05)
Posted by: random lurker at August 19, 2016 10:39 AM (WF5ei)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2016 10:35 AM (lrqKz)
Yep. And in 2016, I have no opinion about whether we should be bombing this nation or that, trying to kill this version of Islamic fanatics or that one, because who knows which is which anymore, but IF we are going to be at war with them, send more bombs. The hard way.
And when the propaganda machine gets going, send more bombs again. And again and again.
Until you show your enemy you have more bombs than they do "innocent victims," you'll never win.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:40 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2016 10:40 AM (wPiJc)
Gracias in advance.
Posted by: major major major major at August 19, 2016 10:40 AM (5Q/hM)
Bonus question: What was the autopilots name?
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:38 AM (r65B3)
Otto!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:40 AM (xxSK3)
"citizen" will be allowed to sue Google because it will have an
exclusive license from the Department of Highway Safety and thus not
liable for damages.
Google/Alphabet is also getting into the car insurance business - no doubt they would want to control the insurance on their self-driving cars (maybe insist on it?) to ensure they are never on the losing end of an insurance settlement related to one of their cars.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:40 AM (NOIQH)
More importantly, where do they bury the survivors?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 10:40 AM (6t8+a)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:41 AM (wg0zd)
Cars don't have to land. But technology does allow a drone to fly and land on its own. It will only get better.
I'm just saying that the technology you see now can be perfected in my opinion. Just like so many other things people thought was not possible.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 10:41 AM (QvdcM)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 10:41 AM (9P3OG)
Bonus question: What was the autopilots name?
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:38 AM (r65B3)
1. Somewhere in Utah.
2. Way too late for the autonomous car.
3. If the autopilots are not named either Hal or Otto it will be extremely wrong.
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:41 AM (RD7QR)
Katrina was a sprinkler head malfunction compared to this.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:41 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: Dang at August 19, 2016 10:41 AM (k0G44)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2016 10:42 AM (kTF2Z)
*****
Interesting idea. We could call them...ummm...I've got it...
...railways!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2016 10:31 AM (wPiJc)
Hahaha okay, granted. But if you're in a car, you have to get to that driverless roadway, and then exit. The big problem-- okay, *a* big problem-- with trains and mass transit is what they call "the last mile." 90-95% of your route is shared by a bunch of other people, so sure, there's potential efficiency. (Especially cargo, which is why we have trains and freighters.) The rest, well, that's the trick.
*If* driverless-capable cars get to be popular enough, repurposing some highways exclusively for them would make sense. They're already off-limits to horses, pedestrians, bikes, and I think farm equipment.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 19, 2016 10:42 AM (u0s1P)
Posted by: Dang at August 19, 2016 10:42 AM (k0G44)
So imagine being glued to the bumper of a robot-car on the way from Kansas City to Boise.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:42 AM (wg0zd)
Posted by: Count de Monet
*****
And they're making good time, too. Going to beat the paramedics by a good half an hour.
(shamelessly stolen)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2016 10:42 AM (wPiJc)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2016 10:43 AM (kKHcp)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:39 AM (xxSK3)
And landing a plane is about 10^10000000 times simpler than navigating an anonymous road with things and people and all manner of things on it, crossing it ...
And, just to reiterate what I wrote above (that everyone seemed to ignore) the fatal weakness with autonomous cars is that they will never be able to understand that a bunch of thugs erected cardboard barriers in the road and the car will be frozen in place while the people are mugged/killed and all their shit stolen. This is an issue with autonomous driving that WILL NOT BE SOLVED and is FATAL to the idea of autonomous cars on normal roads. FATAL.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 10:43 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Count de Monet
- - - -
Ding! Ding! Ding! A winnah!
And good job to IllTemperedCur.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:43 AM (r65B3)
Ribbon around the little man in the boat.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2016 10:42 AM (kTF2Z)
Hey!
Posted by: Tony Orlando at August 19, 2016 10:43 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:38 AM (r65B3)<<<
Otto. And there's an inflation nozzle located just below his belt buckle if he happens to get saggy.
Posted by: Steve McCroskey at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (H9MG5)
We get a red week once a month.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: major major major major at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (5Q/hM)
Same here. I thought the painting looked like an inspiration for a Christo event.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (ZnIt3)
This whole thing is crazy.
Posted by: Lea at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (lIU4e)
But remove the spaces.
Posted by: Dang at August 19, 2016 10:41 AM (k0G44)
Only AoS Platinum Members are supposed to know this!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (wCEn4)
Take out the open spaces. [ i ] starts italics. [ / i ] closes them.
Same deal with S for strikethrough, B for bold, U for underline.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (TOk1P)
Crap
Posted by: Dang at August 19, 2016 10:42 AM (k0G44)
I'm actually a fan of her work, but yeah. This one is, to be charitable, sub-par for her.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 10:45 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: Dang at August 19, 2016 10:45 AM (k0G44)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 19, 2016 10:39 AM (4ng05)
This disregard for human life is probably why the left hearts muslims so much. Kindred souls and all that.
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:45 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:45 AM (wg0zd)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2016 10:37 AM (493sH)
I heard that this morning and had the most urgent need to get up and punch him.
He was excusing Barry from going to LA and it was right of Barry to criticize Bush for simply flying over to see the devastation, because Katrina was way worse than this flood. This flood is bad, but it's nothing like Katrina, because Geraldo was there.
He is still a liberal asshole. He said all this right after giving his opinion, as a lawyer, that Lochte didn't do anything bad in RIo.
Oh, and he and his wife were ROBBED in Rio, right on the beach. Kilmeade, and others were staring at him shocked at this revelation. They , along with me, were envisioning armed men holding them up ,taking money, watches , purses, cameras.
Geraldo went on with his story.
"We were robbed right on the beach, this gorgeous beach in Rio. Some kids came over and took some things out of my wife's bag.
He was absolutely serious.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 19, 2016 10:45 AM (JbgDR)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (TOk1P)
Eh, what's a matter for you?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2016 10:45 AM (493sH)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (ksPsw)
More like 4 days, and the fifth day is spotty at best.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:46 AM (TOk1P)
Jeb Stuart was trying to circle around from the rear and split the Union line. Custer had a much inferior force but it was a narrow road and he was able to hold it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 10:38 AM (mgbwf)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but during Gettysburg wasn't Jeb essentially joy-riding around the countryside having fun rather than you know...... doing his fucking job?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:46 AM (xxSK3)
none. Even individually, Muslims regard life as utterly worthless.
That, if one really dwells on it, is a huge issue.
Exactly. Islam is cruel, and prohibits pretty much everything in life that gives one joy. Stonings, beatings, rape, mutilation are all OK, while music, dance, drinking are not.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:46 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Corona at August 19, 2016 10:46 AM (ragzU)
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Little known fact. George may have been largely responsible for the Union victory at Gettysburg when he prevented Jeb Stuart from hitting the Union line from the back as Pickett was hitting it from the front.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 19, 2016 10:46 AM (ZUOvO)
Posted by: The Barrel at August 19, 2016 10:46 AM (wrS2o)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Imagine people dropping cardboard boxes on highways for laughs. Or pieces of re-tread tire in the road.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (326rv)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2016 10:37 AM (493sH)
He's a complete idiot.
Posted by: Lea at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Dang at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (k0G44)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (zeRiI)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (wPiJc)
This whole thing is crazy.
Posted by: Lea at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (lIU4e)
Not unlike plea bargaining here in the states. Or reaching an agreement with a prosecutor to drop charges.
Or...promising the director of the FBI something in exchange for not recommending charges.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (JbgDR)
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (wCEn4)
Nah, that's for ampersands and such. Gotta let us peons have a little taste. Whets the appetite.
Posted by: random lurker at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (WF5ei)
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (r65B3)
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (wCEn4)
Platinum membership perks for the price of cardboard!!!
This is like finding box seats for todays game in the garbage can while looking for aluminum cans in the parking lot.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2016 10:48 AM (kKHcp)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 10:43 AM (zc3Db)
Yes comrade, but it'll only be peasants that are killed, because the elites will still be allowed to have armed chauffeurs!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 19, 2016 10:48 AM (wCEn4)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:46 AM (xxSK3)
Lee thought so, but Lee was... shall we say, wrong about a few things that week.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:48 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Hrothgar
He faxed in a coupon.
Posted by: Dang at August 19, 2016 10:45 AM (k0G44)
He lifted it from 300 who flounced out of here yesterday!
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:48 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:48 AM (wg0zd)
Posted by: Jen the original at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (JbgDR)
Or paying a bribe...
Posted by: Lea at August 19, 2016 10:48 AM (lIU4e)
was yellow week - can we have a red week, a blue week, a green week and
so on?
We get a red week once a month.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (ksPsw)<<<
We've had red everyday since January 2009, and possibly for another 4 years.
Posted by: U.S.S.A. at August 19, 2016 10:48 AM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:48 AM (r65B3)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but during Gettysburg wasn't Jeb essentially joy-riding around the countryside having fun rather than you know...... doing his fucking job?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
yes, but he got his dumb ass there the evening of the second day. Far too late to have been of use in his primary role; reconaisance for ad the screening of the army.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 10:49 AM (326rv)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (326rv)
Yep. And even stuff just getting blown onto the road. People have not really thought through this whole autonomous driving thing.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 10:49 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:45 AM (RD7QR)
Exactly. And we shouldn't be cavalier about how we deal with this. As a matter of fact, if we want our children and theirs to live in a society where life is not held in high regard - with all of the incredibly profound repercussions that implies, we should be damned emphatic about how we deal with it.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 19, 2016 10:49 AM (4ng05)
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:49 AM (r65B3)
Posted by: Roy G. Biv at August 19, 2016 10:50 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 19, 2016 10:50 AM (C7Ccr)
Hah hah! I beat you to it!
I win I win I win.
*rolls around in clover*
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 10:50 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 10:50 AM (JBggj)
Yep. And even stuff just getting blown onto the road. People have not really thought through this whole autonomous driving thing.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Road kill. How will they deal with that?
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 10:50 AM (326rv)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (TOk1P)
After you let the Irish in, it's pretty hard to start getting picky.
Posted by: jwest at August 19, 2016 10:50 AM (Zs4uk)
This whole thing is crazy.
Posted by: Lea at August 19, 2016 10:44 AM (lIU4e)
Not unlike plea bargaining here in the states. Or reaching an agreement with a prosecutor to drop charges.
Or...promising the director of the FBI something in exchange for not recommending charges.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (JbgDR)
$10k baksheesh for a $50.00 bathroom stall door. Sounds about right.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:50 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: Diogenes
Better slow way down. You only get three italics a week, unless you upgrade your membership.
Posted by: Dang at August 19, 2016 10:51 AM (k0G44)
Posted by: Independent George (or the commenter formally known as Serenity Now!) at August 19, 2016 10:51 AM (BDZWU)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Road kill. How will they deal with that?
Blue plate special in Louisiana.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:51 AM (ksPsw)
cardboard barriers in the road and the car will be frozen in place while
the people are mugged/killed and all their shit stolen.
Now there's a scary image! Just look at what is going n in Calais right now.
Will the car decide that the fastest path from point A to point B is through the hood? Will citizens sue Google/whomever for then altering their program to avoid the hood? Car doesn't know if person on side of the road at traffic light is nana waiting for a bus or someone with a gun wanting to carjack you.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:51 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:46 AM (NOIQH)
And it extends to ALL life, not just human life. This is not a small implication.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 19, 2016 10:52 AM (4ng05)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:52 AM (wg0zd)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but during Gettysburg wasn't Jeb essentially joy-riding around the countryside having fun rather than you know...... doing his fucking job?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:46 AM (xxSK3)
Lee thought so, but Lee was... shall we say, wrong about a few things that week.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:48 AM (TOk1P)
True, and yeah, Lee's thoughts on the matter are what I was referring to.
Then again, one could argue that Lee might not have been as wrong about things that week if Jeb had been doing his job of keeping his commander informed of the enemy's strength and whereabouts.
Meh, Monday Morning Quarterbacking is fun, isn't it?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:52 AM (xxSK3)
Take your nic and add a closing tag to it.
Example:
Before: Measmus Suldoon
After: Measmus Suldoom [ / i ]
Close up spaces in tag, of course.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 19, 2016 10:52 AM (ZnIt3)
Posted by: dog at August 19, 2016 10:52 AM (zeRiI)
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:52 AM (r65B3)
Dogs. Dogs are forbidden, considered unclean. Arabs make a sport out of killing dogs. Iran recently had a government campaign to round up and exterminate dogs.
It's like they're forbidden to learn about total love and loyalty.
Posted by: Robert Crawford at August 19, 2016 10:52 AM (MqB5V)
I have this terrible keen, sweet. lovely highly organized seminary student I'm working with and she will be away on vacation next week, so I will be filling in for her. She texts me-Do you want me to fill in anything for the bulletin for you for next week?. I texted back that I haven't actually thought about it yet but I will get the material to the person who needs it by the time it's due. I refrained from saying, "I have done a few sermons and submitted bulletins for a few years. Take it easy! The place will probably still be here when you return!" ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2016 10:52 AM (6HqlZ)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 10:53 AM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 10:53 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 10:53 AM (wg0zd)
Posted by: Dang
- - - -
good point
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:54 AM (r65B3)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 10:50 AM (326rv)
Yep. These are all issues that you never hear discussed, as if they never happen and roads are always just nice and open and easy to identify and there are no bad actors around who make it their job to attack people while they're in their cars.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2016 10:54 AM (zc3Db)
In this case it was armed security guards at the station that forced them to hand over the payment for alleged damages.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 10:54 AM (QvdcM)
How about resurrecting David Hasselhoff and KITT? Except Michael would be perpetually drunk, and KITT would be on a rampage against humanity for killing the Pontiac brand.
Posted by: Fritz at August 19, 2016 10:54 AM (2Mnv1)
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 19, 2016 09:54 AM (77emZ)
10-4, puny human.
Posted by: AutoTruck 3000 at August 19, 2016 10:54 AM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (326rv)
I remember one episode of "Cheers" in which Woody talks about his cousin who used to paint fake houses & put them on them on train tracks then take pictures of the engineers' faces.
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 10:54 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Dang at August 19, 2016 10:55 AM (k0G44)
Posted by: Yuimetal at August 19, 2016 10:55 AM (mL2BD)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 19, 2016 10:55 AM (97XyN)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:55 AM (ksPsw)
I wonder if this is how Prometheus felt when he gave fire to the humans.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 19, 2016 10:55 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 19, 2016 10:35 AM (lrqKz)
They've learned well the lessons taught to them by the progressives.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 10:55 AM (rO2Be)
Posted by: Emmie at August 19, 2016 10:55 AM (xVuS6)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 10:45 AM (RD7QR)
Exactly. And we shouldn't be cavalier about how we deal with this. As a matter of fact, if we want our children and theirs to live in a society where life is not held in high regard - with all of the incredibly profound repercussions that implies, we should be damned emphatic about how we deal with it.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 19, 2016 10:49 AM (4ng05)
ISIS is just providing post-birth abortions, they're like Planned Murderhood but with a different clientele.
Posted by: random lurker at August 19, 2016 10:55 AM (WF5ei)
road. People have not really thought through this whole autonomous
driving thing.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Road kill. How will they deal with that?
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 10:50 AM (326rv)
Or tumbleweeds. According to my youthful research of watching Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, and the like, they can be quite menacing. Frogs too. And radiated ants, spiders, grasshoppers scorpions, and all manner of creepy crawlies.
ProTip: to escape, push the dame down, hard. She's just gonna twist her ankle anyways in those shoes and then look oh so fetching in hopes that you will carry her, manly like, away from the danger.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2016 10:55 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:56 AM (ksPsw)
out of Brazilian charges. Which is a thing you can do, apparently.
Or more specifically, to get out of the country.
They were hauled off their flights and may have had their passports taken (judge ordered Locte's passport confiscated - what about the others?).
Are they getting any assistance from the US embassy or does the admin just not GAF (like in Sudan where they are ignoring please from US citizens getting attacked, raped)?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 10:56 AM (NOIQH)
See what you guys have done?
You've left an AK-47 on the ground near monkeys.
You're laughing now.
Wait til we figure out where the trigger is!
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2016 10:56 AM (kKHcp)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 10:48 AM (TOk1P)
True, and yeah, Lee's thoughts on the matter are what I was referring to.
Then again, one could argue that Lee might not have been as wrong about things that week if Jeb had been doing his job of keeping his commander informed of the enemy's strength and whereabouts.
Meh, Monday Morning Quarterbacking is fun, isn't it?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
Lee had no idea that the Army of the Potamac had even left their camps, much less that they were moving through Maryland.
In contrast, Union cavalry fought well at Hanover and positioned itself at Gettyburg and stalled an advance, holding ground for I Corps to occupy. Lee had forces streched out to within sight of Harrisburg. he had to recall these and other forces and consoolidate.
Most of his moves after that were colored by this.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 10:57 AM (326rv)
Posted by: random lurker at August 19, 2016 10:55 AM (WF5ei)
Those issues are most definitely related. No doubt about it.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 19, 2016 10:57 AM (4ng05)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 10:57 AM (rO2Be)
Cheater.
Also there's something about the current pixyware that sometimes does and sometimes doesn't close an open tag.
It's as if pixy weren't on our side.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 10:57 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously
- - - - -
no work getting done today!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:57 AM (r65B3)
[like this?]
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:47 AM (r65B3)
If you keep throwing this technical shit out there, sooner or later someone with no technical ability (like me) will try it.
Then, you'll all be sorry.
There won't be any margins. EVERYTHING will be bold and italic, with ampersands dripping from the ceiling.
This shit will get out of hand and someone will get hurt.
Keep your high tech mumbo jumbo hidden along with your secret handshakes. Some things are not meant to be discussed in public.
Posted by: jwest at August 19, 2016 10:57 AM (Zs4uk)
really thought through this whole autonomous driving thing.
================
The people who have really thought through this autonomous driving thing are the people who have freedom for "the masses". The very idea that someone can sit in a decaying Los Angeles neighborhood and say "eff it", then load up the car and start a new life in Texas without an exit visa fill them with rage.
The "autonomous" driving push is a direct attack on the constitutional liberties of American citizens
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 10:59 AM (JBggj)
It's as if pixy weren't on our side.
Hell, it's been calling some of us spammers this morning. Just for using bitly.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 10:59 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 10:57 AM (326rv)
Did he use yellow? Because we've had enough of that around here
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2016 10:59 AM (493sH)
They're going to have a festival to mark the 25th Anniversary of the Crown Heights riots.
Fun for the whole family!
*except dad....we don't know where or who dad is
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 19, 2016 11:00 AM (mEZce)
Posted by: random lurker at August 19, 2016 11:00 AM (WF5ei)
Nervous they are.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 19, 2016 11:00 AM (ZnIt3)
http://tinyurl.com/zk6rovd
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 11:00 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 11:00 AM (r65B3)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Know Your Place! The Outrage Outlet has Official DNC Oppression Hierarchy Cards! at August 19, 2016 11:00 AM (hLRSq)
http://bit.ly/2bnKcBK
We are not obligated to spread their propaganda.
Posted by: Phone of kari at August 19, 2016 11:01 AM (cuZNl)
Then again, one could argue that Lee might not have been as wrong about things that week if Jeb had been doing his job of keeping his commander informed of the enemy's strength and whereabouts.
Meh, Monday Morning Quarterbacking is fun, isn't it?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:52 AM (xxSK3)
Yep, and that was the problem of having someone like Jeb Stuart under one's command. He did his job supremely well, when he was causing general havoc to the rear of the enemy, but cavalry units can be stopped by an equally ballsy cavalry unit on the other side.
If anything, Stuart was expecting to get away with what he had always been able to get away with, and this one time, he wasn't. And Lee, perhaps not fully understanding what exactly Stuart did, thought he was not doing his job correctly. Precisely because he didn't succeed, and because Lee was left "blind."
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:01 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 19, 2016 11:02 AM (97XyN)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously<<<
**takes out boombox**
**starts playing Also sprach Zarathustra**
Posted by: a mysterious black monolith at August 19, 2016 11:02 AM (H9MG5)
Nervous they are.
Nah. If they post after someone else screwed up, their auto close tags will save the blog form going wonky until the original posters sees and catches it.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 19, 2016 11:02 AM (ksPsw)
The people who have really thought through this autonomous driving thing are the people who loathe freedom for "the masses".
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 11:03 AM (JBggj)
http://tinyurl.com/zk6rovd
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 11:00 AM (7HtZB)
Will there be a running-of-the-bulls type event, where Hassidic Jews are chased and then beaten up?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 11:05 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: BurtTC
It was more than perception. he WASN'T doing his primary job, and Lee had to redeploy because of it. he had done another grand sweep, which put him out of communication. When e finally returned, he announced that he had captured a number of wagons, to which Lee replied, "yes, and they are an impediment to me now."
His attack on the third day was far more useful, but failed.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 11:05 AM (326rv)
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 10:59 AM (JBggj)
It's interesting that my wife and I have had this conversation more than once, with her taking the more pessimistic view you have.
In a good and decent world, it would be fantastic (after the myriad bugs have been worked out) for the disabled and old, whose reflexes or vision just aren't up to the task.
Mobility and independence for more years, and an imperfect autonomous car would be a step up from their abilities.
Not to mention drunks.
Hop in the passenger seat, punch in destination, and instant designated driver!
But alas, you are probably closer to the truth.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2016 11:05 AM (kKHcp)
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 11:03 AM (JBggj)
Yup.
Once your car drives you,
they can drive your car.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2016 11:05 AM (0cMkb)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 19, 2016 11:05 AM (VdICR)
Same here. Been eyeing a Browning Buckmark for the hell of it.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2016 11:06 AM (ksPsw)
http://tinyurl.com/zk6rovd
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 11:00 AM (7HtZB)
Are they planning on killing any Orthodox Jews as part of the "celebration?"
Hey, let's have LA celebrate the happy days of the Watts riots! Or, more recently, the day a mob beat the shit out of that cracka Denny!
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 11:06 AM (u0lmX)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 10:46 AM (xxSK3)
According to historian Shelby Foote, Robert E. Lee had a huge temper, a fact of which he was ashamed andwhich he worked all of his life to control. I'm guessingLee's restraint in his meeting with Jeb Stuart after Stuart's 'joyride' was a monumental effort of will on Lee's part.
No one really understands why Jeb Stuart did what he did at Gettysburg. The man was a superb cavalry commander. It doesn't make any sense.
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 11:06 AM (OGbEB)
Lee had no idea that the Army of the Potamac had even left their camps, much less that they were moving through Maryland.
In contrast, Union cavalry fought well at Hanover and positioned itself at Gettyburg and stalled an advance, holding ground for I Corps to occupy. Lee had forces streched out to within sight of Harrisburg. he had to recall these and other forces and consoolidate.
Most of his moves after that were colored by this.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 10:57 AM (326rv)
I think that this was Lee's point. If his primary recon force was doing their job, they MIGHT have found out that the Army of the Potomac was on the move early enough so that Lee could have maneuvered into a more favorable position, rather than being drawn into a meeting engagement against his will.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 11:06 AM (xxSK3)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2016 11:07 AM (6HqlZ)
Once your car drives you,
they can drive your car.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2016 11:05 AM (0cMkb)
Saves time herding people into boxcars if they can have your own car take you straight to the Happy Fun Camps.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 11:07 AM (u0lmX)
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 10:09 AM (7HtZB)
Helmut Newton?
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2016 11:08 AM (0mRoj)
http://tinyurl.com/zk6rovd
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 11:00 AM (7HtZB)
Will there be a running-of-the-bulls type event, where Hassidic Jews are chased and then beaten up?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 11:05 AM (9P3OG)
Can Kristallnacht re-enactments be far behind? Sheesh. I'm going back to bed (after a quart of Val-U-Right).
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 19, 2016 11:08 AM (4ng05)
See me at 349.
The '91 riots was the nail in the coffin of the Dinkins administration.
10 years of Giuliani. It was a great time to be living in New York. And then, 9/11.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 11:08 AM (9P3OG)
I have read the same about Eisenhower.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 11:09 AM (u0lmX)
did at Gettysburg. The man was a superb cavalry commander. It doesn't
make any sense.
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 11:06 AM (OGbEB)
I'm not saying it was aliens, but . . . it was aliens.
Posted by: George Tsoukalos at August 19, 2016 11:09 AM (JO9+V)
Can Kristallnacht re-enactments be far behind? Sheesh. I'm going back to bed (after a quart of Val-U-Right).
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 19, 2016 11:08 AM (4ng05)
Except, unlike re-enactments, these will be actual enactments yet again!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 11:09 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2016 11:09 AM (kKHcp)
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 10:09 AM (7HtZB)
Helmut Newton?
Yes, although currently the late Helmut Newton.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:10 AM (mgbwf)
Yup.
Once your car drives you,
they can drive your car.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2016 11:05 AM (0cMkb)
Saves time herding people into boxcars if they can have your own car take you straight to the Happy Fun Camps.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 11:07 AM (u0lmX)
Plus, after they drop you off at Happy Fun Camp, they get to auto-drive your car off to the local Democrat Party office
"Vote Democrat, get a free car!"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 11:10 AM (xxSK3)
I think the boys in the Teamsters will be stopping by for a little chat.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Know Your Place! The Outrage Outlet has Official DNC Oppression Hierarchy Cards! at August 19, 2016 11:00 AM (hLRSq)
Lots of owner/operators out there who aren't unionized and don't want to be. This is an attack on (1) Small business; (B) a reliably conservative group; (iii) people who are difficult to control.
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 11:10 AM (RD7QR)
Or any particular accouterments to go along with said AR-15?
I haven't quite convinced myself to get one. Mostly cuz I don't need the expense right now.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2016 11:10 AM (0cMkb)
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/027624.php
Posted by: steevy at August 19, 2016 09:47 AM (fA75F)
Ace has seemed a little "off", guess this crapfest of an election season has been getting to him. Perhaps one of you regulars might encourage him to try to lighten up with some "Top Tens".
Posted by: random lurker at August 19, 2016 11:10 AM (WF5ei)
Big red 2" high letters: "Category 3".
It requires an airport to be equipped with a pretty extensive array of specific radars, bearing/location transmitters, and other such, in order to "see" the aircraft on long-final approach, and issue the relevant info as to altitude, heading, drift, rate of descent as seen from the ground, and other data, to the airplane.
The airplane's Cat 3 system co-relates that info with the plane's own instrument readings, and makes the necessary corrections, flying the aircraft on a programmed glide path, all the way down to the runway centerline.
Some planes with the most sophisticated systems incorporate auto-reverse-thrusters, spoiler deployment and auto-braking with this, which are all triggered by the compression of the 'plane's main landing gear struts.
However, a Cat 3 landing, ain't a thing of beauty. Think more of a carrier approach and landing, but at a far gentler glideslope and flare-out, than the carrier approaches 4 degree slope with no flare whatsoever.
Category 3 was designed to safely put the plane down when the runway is in zero-zero conditions, or other condition of under-the-limits visibility from the cockpit.
I'm not sure how many of the large airports out there are equipped to handle Category 3. But last I knew, it damn sure wasn't all of 'em.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 19, 2016 11:10 AM (v5iqM)
Hop in the passenger seat, punch in destination, and instant designated driver!
>>>
I'm not sure they want to give up that revenue stream. It will probably still be illegal to operate a self driving car drunk.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 19, 2016 11:11 AM (wrS2o)
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2016 11:11 AM (805dc)
No one really understands why Jeb Stuart did what he did at Gettysburg. The man was a superb cavalry commander. It doesn't make any sense.
When the Union was on the offensive, the sweeps diverted attention from the main drive, hurt supply lines, and caused Halleck in D.C. to panic. They were very beneficial. it also was the ultimate thrill for Stuart or any other cavalry officer.
In this situation, doing it was extremely stupid. This time, the Army of Northern VA was the one on the offensive. The major forces of their opponent couldn't possibly be in that direction, and they failed to keep track of the Army of the Potomac, which also moved faster than it had previously.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 11:11 AM (326rv)
Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff at August 19, 2016 11:12 AM (H9MG5)
His attack on the third day was far more useful, but failed.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 11:05 AM (326rv)
Ah, but it IS a matter of perception as to what precisely, his primary job was.
It's one thing for Lee to say "Jeb, go be a rebel, do rebellious things, and have fun!" When that's working well, then everybody's happy.
When it doesn't, then you have recriminations as to whether a wild and free cavalry officer is doing his proper duties or not.
You can't have it both ways. And the Lee apologists at times, seem to start with the assumption that if something went wrong, it was somebody's fault, other than Lee's.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:12 AM (TOk1P)
Ooops! The replacement parts for the autonomous trucks are somewhere in Minot, N Dakota!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2016 11:12 AM (ksPsw)
According to historian Shelby Foote, Robert E. Lee had a huge temper, a
fact of which he was ashamed andwhich he worked all of his life to
control."
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 11:09 AM (u0lmX)
Foote's Civil War trilogy is a masterwork.
Posted by: General Zod at August 19, 2016 11:12 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 11:12 AM (7HtZB)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2016 11:09 AM (kKHcp)
Think his name is "Caesar"?
Posted by: random lurker at August 19, 2016 11:13 AM (WF5ei)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 11:13 AM (wg0zd)
apologists at times, seem to start with the assumption that if
something went wrong, it was somebody's fault, other than Lee's. Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:12 AM (TOk1P)
You're exactly right. Lee's orders to Stuart were so imprecise and ambiguous that as much--if not more--blame should accrue to Lee as to Stuart.
Posted by: General Zod at August 19, 2016 11:14 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 10:59 AM (JBggj)
What do you mean I have to have a GPS in my saddle and no reins to control the horse? And that's after I paid the insurance, license, and registration fees!
Posted by: Zombie Thomas Jefferson at August 19, 2016 11:14 AM (wCEn4)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:14 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: Tom Cruise Character in Minority Report at August 19, 2016 11:14 AM (zeRiI)
Or any particular accouterments to go along with said AR-15?
I haven't quite convinced myself to get one. Mostly cuz I don't need the expense right now.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2016 11:10 AM (0cMkb)
It's hard to go too wrong. There are a relatively small number of companies that make the receivers and other parts use to make AR15s under a variety of brand names. The only accoutrements I have on my AR are a bottom rail and vertical forward grip.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2016 11:15 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 11:15 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 19, 2016 11:15 AM (4A6dk)
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 11:06 AM (OGbEB)
Sure it does. He did what he always did. It's just, Lee (and the rest of us) after the fact, decided because something broke down, and didn't go well, there had to be someone to blame.
Hence, Jeb and Longstreet (and poor ol' George Pickett) are convenient for that task.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:15 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2016 11:16 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 11:13 AM (wg0zd)
That'll be billed as the NYC Burning Man.
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2016 11:16 AM (7HtZB)
Of course USA Today doesn't itself urge Obama to end vacation. I'm guessing that wouldn't be appropriate somehow. Or perhaps they don't see the LA devastation as anything significant... like Katrina was. Or maybe black Presidents are held to a different standard, one that is effectively no standard at all.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 19, 2016 11:16 AM (4ng05)
You don't have the Thing that Goes Up?
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:16 AM (TjcfH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 11:17 AM (wg0zd)
like driving today or do I want to take a nap on my drive? But
eventually it will be no choice, only the machines will drive. And
that's why I don't like the idea.
Not eventually - being designed by Google and Ford to never include manual controls. So no choice from the get-go.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 11:17 AM (NOIQH)
Bushmaster.
I've heard to stay away from DPMS.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2016 11:17 AM (ksPsw)
You don't have the Thing that Goes Up?
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:16 AM (TjcfH)
Yeah. In my pants.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2016 11:17 AM (0mRoj)
CNBC is talking to a "lifelong" Republican (former Romney campaign aide) who is voting for the Beast because Trump is dangerous. He claims that the Beast is winning over Republicans. CNBC is wetting its panties.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2016 11:17 AM (493sH)
Posted by: HiHo at August 19, 2016 11:18 AM (CPk08)
No I agree with you. Just like we will likely never do away with currency, we will never do away with manually operated vehicles. I think the paranoia of autonomous driving vehicles is unfounded . As always required at aos, this is just my opinion and not a statement of fact.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 11:18 AM (QvdcM)
Science!
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:18 AM (ZXR6+)
A lot of factors leading up to Gettysburg:
- Hooker reorganized the AoP's cavalry, including the spectacular promotions of Custer, Merritt, and Farnsworth - all of whom proved to be superb cavalry officers. Farnsworth was killed on July 3d, during an ill-considered action ordered by Judson Kilpatrick
- Lee issued ambiguous orders to Stuart. Neither officer apparently learned the lesson from the Brandy Station fight, that the Federal cavalry was on a fighting par with Stuart's horse soldiers and that Stuart would be fighting them on Union ground.
- Meade's Bureau of Military Intelligence (BMI) was an highly professional and effective unit that provided fast and accurate information to Meade, Stanton, and Lincoln. Temporarily blinded by Lee's screen behind the Blue Ridge, as soon as Lee popped into sight in Pennsylvania, the BMI had an accurate AoNV order of battle and unit locations in Meade's hands by July 1.
Bottom Line - Lee's seat of the pants command and control capacity was seriously out-classed by the Federal forces before the first shot was fired on the outskirts of Gettysburg, July 1.
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 11:18 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:18 AM (TjcfH)
A few days after the Battle at LBH George and Tom were buried together in a very shallow grave. Most men were just covered with a little dirt, some stones and brush. A year later the Army returned to retrieve the bodies of the officers for a proper burial.
They found their graves had been disturbed. Whether dug up by indians, animals, or exposed by the weather, their bones were scattered and mixed with horsey bones. They tried their best to get each one's bones in it's proper box, but according to those who were there George's bones might have some of Tom's and a few horsey bones mixed in.
Posted by: JackS at August 19, 2016 11:18 AM (hgwL9)
learn something new...
Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfing at August 19, 2016 11:19 AM (0x/TW)
CNBC is talking to a "lifelong" Republican (former Romney campaign aide) who is voting for the Beast because Trump is dangerous. He claims that the Beast is winning over Republicans. CNBC is wetting its panties.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2016 11:17 AM (493sH)
I'm betting he sounds Concerned.
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 11:19 AM (RD7QR)
Hey I'm back from the Russian fishing trip. Wanna hear?
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:19 AM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: random lurker at August 19, 2016 11:13 AM (WF5ei)
Sure. Why not?
The triumphal holding of the gun over his head. And he clearly had no intention of giving it back.
Oh yeah, he's going back to his clan to lay down the law!
Until the ammo runs out.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2016 11:20 AM (kKHcp)
You sure it still works?
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:18 AM (TjcfH)
Heh. I'm pretty sure it does, but it's, uh, long overdue for a third-party inspection, shall we say.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2016 11:21 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 11:06 AM (OGbEB)
A Union calvary commander had embarrassed him a couple of weeks earlier. He was desperate to regain some glory. That's the theory I've always heard.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 19, 2016 11:21 AM (Ee2nz)
Posted by: donna at August 19, 2016 11:21 AM (O2RFr)
Strongly depends on what you are using for rat poison. If cocaine, yes. If warfarin, no. If .22 hollowpoints, sorta.
Posted by: HiHo at August 19, 2016 11:21 AM (CPk08)
Blinded by the Light (yellow)
Posted by: Douche Springsteen at August 19, 2016 11:21 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:21 AM (TjcfH)
Posted by: Meremortal
Oh, yes of course! And with all the details!
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:21 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 19, 2016 11:22 AM (KP5rU)
THIS.
Robo cars are the mass transit "light rial" of the future. You will be allowed to go somewhere near where you would like at something close to the time you would like to be there. And by near, I mean blocks away and by close I mean within an hour or two.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at August 19, 2016 11:22 AM (394Te)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 11:19 AM (RD7QR)
CNBC is treating him like a defector. The west is weak and decadent. The Soviet Union is the future.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2016 11:22 AM (493sH)
The best firearm is the one you possess.
The worse firearm is the one you haven't bought yet.
But seriously, the question is sort of like "what is the best car to buy?".
What do you want to use it for.
How often?
How important is 100% reliability?
And so on.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 19, 2016 11:22 AM (6t8+a)
Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2016 11:10 AM (0cMkb)
I bought a commie milsurp Yugo SKS for a few hundred bucks,replaced the heavy wooden stock with afairly inexpensive and lightweight Draganov stock, dropped in a recoil buffer and did a fluff and buff on the trigger assembly, replaced the bayonet with a bipod, and sighted it to the point I can hit at near-competitive levels with iron sights at 100 yards. It is always reliable. It never fails.
I believe in commie milsurp.The redscouldn't make a toaster or a washing machine but their weaponry was (and is) top of the line.
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 11:23 AM (OGbEB)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 11:19 AM (RD7QR)
CNBC is treating him like a defector. The west is weak and decadent. The Soviet Union is the future.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2016 11:22 AM (493sH)
Its not exactly the first time a Romney worker decided he was voting democrat in the general election.
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2016 11:24 AM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 19, 2016 11:16 AM (4ng05)
MFM: He's dreamy and the bestest ever. What other standard is there for him?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2016 11:24 AM (493sH)
Ah, but it IS a matter of perception as to what precisely, his primary job was.
It's one thing for Lee to say "Jeb, go be a rebel, do rebellious things, and have fun!" When that's working well, then everybody's happy.
When it doesn't, then you have recriminations as to whether a wild and free cavalry officer is doing his proper duties or not.
You can't have it both ways. And the Lee apologists at times, seem to start with the assumption that if something went wrong, it was somebody's fault, other than Lee's.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:12 AM (TOk1P)
It's not really perception, either Lee gave clear instructions on Jeb's mission priorities or he didn't. I honestly don't know, so I'll defer to any one else's specific knowledge there.
I will say that it's instructive that Lee was angry with Jeb when he finally made contact. I guess it would depend on if you think Lee would be the type of commander who would be pissed at Jeb for following orders, even if those orders left Lee in a bad situation.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 11:25 AM (xxSK3)
10 years of Giuliani. It was a great time to be living in New York. And then, 9/11.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 11:08 AM (9P3OG)
The first time I visited NYC was in '85 and I went there regularly for the next 4 years or so. I enjoyed my visits - but I avoided the subways. Bernard Goetz's ordeal was fresh in my mind, I had seen too many movies which showed thugs moving from car to car looking for victims and I was getting advice from people like - "you'll be OK, just don't wear any expensive looking jewelry or you might get your earrings ripped out of your ears."
Uh, no thanks, I'll walk or take a cab....I'm sorry I never got to enjoy the safer NY of the Rudy years. Now I never will....
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 11:25 AM (u0lmX)
I am > < that close to grabbing an sks or ak for cheap ammo for hogs.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2016 11:25 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:26 AM (ZXR6+)
I'm sure a metric shit ton did last time too.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2016 11:26 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2016 11:17 AM (493sH)
Time for your daily ration of F.U.D. I think that this "lifelong Republican and staffer" only talks with people in his immediate consultant/media/pundit circle and no one else. Hence, why the media has more stories of this phenomenon than I actually experience in real life (R.L. experience = 0).
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Know Your Place! The Outrage Outlet has Official DNC Oppression Hierarchy Cards! at August 19, 2016 11:26 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Dang at August 19, 2016 11:27 AM (k0G44)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 19, 2016 11:27 AM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 11:28 AM (wg0zd)
Eh, I lived in NYC for pretty much the 80s, when it still looked like a Scorcese movie.
I liked gritty, dangerous New York.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:28 AM (mgbwf)
- Hooker reorganized the AoP's cavalry, including the spectacular promotions of Custer, Merritt, and Farnsworth - all of whom proved to be superb cavalry officers. Farnsworth was killed on July 3d, during an ill-considered action ordered by Judson Kilpatrick
- Lee issued ambiguous orders to Stuart. Neither officer apparently learned the lesson from the Brandy Station fight, that the Federal cavalry was on a fighting par with Stuart's horse soldiers and that Stuart would be fighting them on Union ground.
- Meade's Bureau of Military Intelligence (BMI) was an highly professional and effective unit that provided fast and accurate information to Meade, Stanton, and Lincoln. Temporarily blinded by Lee's screen behind the Blue Ridge, as soon as Lee popped into sight in Pennsylvania, the BMI had an accurate AoNV order of battle and unit locations in Meade's hands by July 1.
Bottom Line - Lee's seat of the pants command and control capacity was seriously out-classed by the Federal forces before the first shot was fired on the outskirts of Gettysburg, July 1.
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 11:18 AM (JBggj)
Good, thorough description, that jives with my general perception, so I'm gonna declare you the winner of this discussion.
For what THAT'S worth.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:28 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: TheQuietMan
=====
Creases!
Also, clean...and articulate.
Posted by: David Brooks at August 19, 2016 11:28 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2016 11:25 AM (ksPsw)
SKS. Shoots much more accurately out of the box.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2016 11:29 AM (kKHcp)
Basically, it wasn't Trump that needed to sign a loyalty oath. It was the establishment. They're the ones with the history of jumping ship after all.
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2016 11:29 AM (z/Ubi)
The redscouldn't make a toaster or a washing machine but their weaponry was (and is) top of the line.
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 11:23 AM
The priorities of the commie state.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2016 11:29 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Meremortal
Yeah, how many Russians did you catch?
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 11:30 AM (p/TYF)
Malia Obama isn't about to let a vacation with Mom and Dad stop her
from partying like a pro. According to the Boston Herald, the first
daughter, who seems to have a well-developed eye for a good night out,
attended a party on Martha's Vineyard that ended up getting shut down by
the cops.
The paper claimed the rowdy shindig in sleepy West Tisbury --- where
the first family is spending its annual summer trip --- was closed down
because of noise complaints, but that "Malia, of course, was escorted
home by her Secret Service squad, who, we're told, got her outta there
right quick when the heat showed up!"
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 11:30 AM (NOIQH)
The camps were great, little wooden shacks with two beds and a woodstove. Great food, though all meat was smoked as no refrigeration. Generators for temp electricity in the evenings. Hot showers heated by woodstoves every day were a great luxury.
Now for the fishing.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:30 AM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 11:30 AM (p/TYF)
and how did you attach the treble hooks to the vodka bottle?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2016 11:30 AM (kKHcp)
-
Kilpayrick's unfortunate nickname: Killcavalry and they weren't talking about Rebs.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 19, 2016 11:31 AM (iGzZX)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 11:31 AM (wg0zd)
Teach a teenage girl that she has no responsibility, accountability or limits. What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2016 11:31 AM (0mRoj)
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The liberals would absolutely freak the hell out if they knew that Yugo SKSs come with a grenade launcher.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 19, 2016 11:32 AM (8XRCm)
That's great. I mentioned before a book called "Reeling in Russia", by a guy I met named Fen Montaigne. He travelled all across the Russian continent looking for unspoiled waters and quality fishing and all he found was mining tailings and oil pipeline leaks.
I'm glad you found some pristine wilderness.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:32 AM (mgbwf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2016 11:32 AM (6HqlZ)
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 11:32 AM (JBggj)
Hey, if it's edgy and dangerous you want hipsters, go to Syria. All kinds of excitement going on there.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 11:32 AM (u0lmX)
Posted by: davidt at August 19, 2016 11:33 AM (zeRiI)
I will say that it's instructive that Lee was angry with Jeb when he finally made contact. I guess it would depend on if you think Lee would be the type of commander who would be pissed at Jeb for following orders, even if those orders left Lee in a bad situation.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2016 11:25 AM (xxSK3)
You're right, it's not a question of perception if we're talking about Lee's specific orders, but it is a matter of perception if, as many assume, Lee did NOT give Stuart specific orders, which I believe was generally the case.
Then, if Stuart was told to be bold and wreak havoc, after the fact everyone is free to argue over what that means. Which is where we are today.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:33 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 11:30 AM (p/TYF)
One. He was a camp manager. I met him walking back from the bathroom about 6AM. We drank Vodka at 6AM, that was a first for me. He had a shotgun slung over his shoulder to fire toward any bears and scare them as one was hanging around camp that morning. He have me a bear tooth which I snuck back home.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:33 AM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 19, 2016 11:34 AM (ThLln)
Posted by: davidt at August 19, 2016 11:33 AM (zeRiI)
I'd say there's at least a 50-50 chance. Also, at least one abortion and a couple of DWIs.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2016 11:34 AM (0mRoj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2016 11:32 AM (6HqlZ)
Diligent, Fenelon. She's just being diligent. And maybe a bit of a control freak.
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 11:34 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:33 AM (ZXR6+)
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Goddammit.
Do you even CARE about the position you guys put me in sometimes!?!?!?!
Posted by: BOB from the NSA at August 19, 2016 11:35 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2016 11:29 AM (z/Ubi)
Yeah, I noticed that. If I can suck it up and vote for Trump, they can, the turncoat rat bastards.
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 11:35 AM (OGbEB)
Posted by: davidt at August 19, 2016 11:33 AM (zeRiI)
I'd say there's at least a 50-50 chance. Also, at least one abortion and a couple of DWIs.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2016 11:34 AM (0mRoj)
And the Secret Service there to clean it up until she hits 21. (Actually, is there any cutoff at all?)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 11:35 AM (RD7QR)
Nothing beats being micro-managed bye a newbie!
On the bright side, she is taking responsibility for things getting done in her absence? There has to be a way to gently inform her that you'll call her if you need her assistance
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 11:35 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:28 AM (mgbwf)
So does DeBlasio apparently. He's doing his best to bring it back.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 11:36 AM (u0lmX)
Even during the latter half of the Koch years during the 80s when things were rough and tumble, NYC was still a great place to be. You had the sense that things were on the upswing because the Reagan economy was starting to gain momentum.
Side note: I lived on West 15th Street off 7th Avenue. One day, as I was getting off the train at 14th Street, Bernie Goetz walked right past me. It was a few months or so after the incident and I did a double-take. Wanted to clap him on the back but I was afraid he'd react.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 11:36 AM (9P3OG)
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:36 AM (TjcfH)
Very tempting.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:36 AM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: Colin at August 19, 2016 11:37 AM (tVUA+)
O.K. Now the dear seminary student sent me the bulletin for this week
and dutifully instructed me that the "Call to Worship, Opening prayer
Scripture lessons, hymns and sermon title" needs to be changed for the
service I would do. Really?!! I'm so glad she shared this with me; I
would be so confused otherwise. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2016 11:32 AM (6HqlZ)
Respond, thanks sweetie but this ain't my first rodeo.
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 11:37 AM (Enq6K)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 11:30 AM (p/TYF)
and how did you attach the treble hooks to the vodka bottle?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 19, 2016 11:30 AM (kKHcp)
That's the wrong lure. Use a diamond ring, which greatly increases your chances of hooking a perky young stripper. They just can't resist diamonds, or so I'm told.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 11:37 AM (p/TYF)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 11:35 AM (NOIQH)
Just tell her don't worry, you've got it covered and ENJOY her time off! And if she's more insistent tell her you insist that she take a break! It's all for her, you see.
Posted by: Lea at August 19, 2016 11:37 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Meremortal
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Goddammit.
Do you even CARE about the position you guys put me in sometimes!?!?!?!
Posted by: BOB from the NSA
Nope. That's our job.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2016 11:38 AM (ksPsw)
What a retarded name for that fishing outfit.
Tailwaters - The Freestone Experts!
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:38 AM (TjcfH)
Doesn't work--there are too many variables.
Has to be one or the other.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 19, 2016 11:38 AM (X35Yt)
Meremortal, an unfished stream in Kamchatka... I am sensing a killer movie now.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 11:38 AM (wg0zd)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:32 AM (mgbwf)
Have to thank the Russian military. The city you fly into is Petropavlosk, a submarine base. Once you leave there, the area is completely uninhabited.
I caught Rainbows (lots), Dolly Varden, Pink Salmon and Cunja (sp?) a Russian char.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:38 AM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 19, 2016 11:34 AM (RD7QR)
So I can't write back and gently pull her leg? :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2016 11:39 AM (6HqlZ)
Posted by: fixerupper at August 19, 2016 11:39 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: WaitingForMartel at August 19, 2016 11:39 AM (BYSrJ)
On Dries or Pegging beads?
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:40 AM (TjcfH)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:28 AM (mgbwf)
So does DeBlasio apparently. He's doing his best to bring it back.
Yeah, I know, and I'm not in favor of that.
Someone said "the past is a different country".
It was a world where when the subway car was full you could push on the spring-loaded connectors between cars and be on one of the platforms between them. Do it in a suit and overcoat and you'd find yourself sharing a platform with yutes smoking something.
It was a good time and place to be young and stupid.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:40 AM (mgbwf)
Doesn't work--there are too many variables.
Has to be one or the other.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 19, 2016 11:38 AM (X35Yt)
I think it's a hoot that the self-driving cars can't figure out how to drive when there are too many humans who won't follow the rules of the road.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:40 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 11:40 AM (eINs/)
Posted by: fixerupper at August 19, 2016 11:32 AM (8XRCm)
As a rule, I don't mention the you-know-what when describing my favorite rifle. Or that I use blanks to fire dummyyou-know-whats for, er, practice. Because yes, some people would freak the hell out.
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 11:40 AM (OGbEB)
It was 31 inches long. The guide estimated it at 9 kilos. Took almost 15 minutes to land on a 7 weight.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:41 AM (ZXR6+)
what was the lure of going all the way there?
Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 11:40 AM (eINs/)
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You made that pun on porpoise, didnt you.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 19, 2016 11:41 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Insomniac
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In this case, it is teaching by example.
Posted by: David Brooks at August 19, 2016 11:41 AM (9mTYi)
They have a Bruce Jenner story out already??
Posted by: fixerupper at August 19, 2016 11:39 AM (8XRCm)
I didn't read the article, but there was a headline on Drudge yesterday that Ru Paul "revealed" that the whole purpose of his act was to f**k with society.
Ya think?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:42 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Barky McFuckstick at August 19, 2016 11:42 AM (tkmLz)
LOL; No; I can't. She really a dear and could easily be my daughter but it does make me laugh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2016 11:42 AM (6HqlZ)
Posted by: BurtTC
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I look forward to encountering one at a 4-Way stop.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 11:43 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:43 AM (TjcfH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2016 11:38 AM
There were two videographers along, real Indiana Jones types. The video will be shopped to sporting shows and I'm promised a copy.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:43 AM (ZXR6+)
As far as the yellow, as much as I love the chrome yellow color, that is not a pickchur I would give wallspace.
Darn, I was hoping for Belle from 'Beauty and the Beast' as the final or that gold painting recovered from Nazis.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 19, 2016 11:43 AM (MIKMs)
you could push on the spring-loaded connectors between cars and be on
one of the platforms between them. Do it in a suit and overcoat and
you'd find yourself sharing a platform with yutes smoking something.
It was a good time and place to be young and stupid.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:40 AM (mgbwf)
Loved going to college in NYC when in my early 20's..but I remember meeting an old lady at a bank once, who told me..."Never grow old in New York" and I moved away at 27...
Posted by: Colin at August 19, 2016 11:43 AM (tVUA+)
Posted by: Insomniac
She obviously believes the crap about there being no rules for the obamas not unlike the Clintons...
Posted by: donna at August 19, 2016 11:44 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Unfortunate Healine of the Week at August 19, 2016 11:44 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: BurtTC
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I look forward to encountering one at a 4-Way stop.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 11:43 AM (9mTYi)
Here in St. Louis we don't call those four-ways "stop signs," we refer to them as "suggestion signs."
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:44 AM (TOk1P)
Oh, that sounds awesome.
Here I shall be pedantic to uphold my fishing cred.
Char are not true trout. Trout have darker spots on a light background, char have light markings on a dark background.
Also there's something about volmer teeth, but I don't technically know what those are.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:45 AM (mgbwf)
what was the lure of going all the way there?
Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 11:40 AM (eINs/)
It's touted as the best Rainbow fishing in the world and I'm a believer. The smallest I caught were around 21 inches (3 pounds). The largest was 29 inches (maybe 9 pounds, who knows?).
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:45 AM (ZXR6+)
Like Chernobyl minus the romantic glow?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2016 11:45 AM (ksPsw)
yes...i just cast my line out there, hoping for a nibble.
Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 11:45 AM (eINs/)
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:46 AM (TjcfH)
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That's a real one.
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:43 AM (TjcfH)
That's what she[i/] said.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:46 AM (TOk1P)
Correct, char are related to our Mackinaw and Brookies.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:46 AM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:46 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:28 AM (mgbwf)
So does DeBlasio apparently. He's doing his best to bring it back.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 11:36 AM (u0lmX)
Giuliani ran the city to make it safer. DeBlasio is running it to fill the pockets of progressive groups and their cronies.
And that's the difference
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 11:46 AM (p/TYF)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2016 11:47 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 19, 2016 11:48 AM (bzd8I)
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 11:48 AM (JBggj)
I saw Weaker Dollar open for Inflation, 2016, at Jackson Hole
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 11:48 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 19, 2016 11:48 AM (bzd8I)
Quit yer crabbin'.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2016 11:49 AM (TOk1P)
These Rainbows are the most pure genetic strain in the world. This is where Rainbows originated.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:49 AM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 11:50 AM (JBggj)
Yeah, although I was wary, I had a lot of fun in NY in the '80's. I loved the vitality of the place.
But if I could go back in time, I'd love to experience the Manhattan of the 1950's. (If nothing else to see the Yankees, da Bums and the Giants during a great era for baseball.) To be in the greatest city of the greatest country on earth at a time when Americans were confident and proud - it must have been wonderful.
The difference between then and now? Camille Paglia recently pointed out that Suzanne Pleshette came from exactly the same social milieu as Lena Dunham. Pleshette's parents were wealthy Manhattan artists who sent her to excellent private schools. Paglia said comparing the two women gives you an idea of just how much that scene has deteriorated.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 11:50 AM (u0lmX)
Like mold on bread.
Let me leave this wunnerful quote:
"The bargain that any president strikes with is, you give me this office and in turn my, fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure is gone," Obama said (in 200
. "I am giving myself to you."Good and hard.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 19, 2016 11:51 AM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Meremortal
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That's what the commies always say.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 11:52 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Dang at August 19, 2016 11:27 AM (k0G44)
He used to come into the gun store I once worked for in Nashville. Very personable and humorous guy, and a very imposing figure, 6'7" or 6'8".
Posted by: Country Singer at August 19, 2016 11:52 AM (uiwCw)
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:40 AM (TjcfH)
A few on the surface on mouse patterns, most on large streamers. these fish don't eat bugs, they eat mice and fish. The Dollys will take a dry but they are boring fighters compared to the rainbows. We did keep a few Dollys each day for eating. All other fish released, barbless hooks. The guides are very protective of the fish. I had no hero shots taken, I would take a pic of the fish in the net if it was a good one and tell the guide to let it go. They got nervous if fish were handled at all.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:53 AM (ZXR6+)
Those fish are ridiculously beautiful. From the spots to the colors...the contrast on them is insane.
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:53 AM (TjcfH)
That's an interesting comparison.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 11:53 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Cave Johnson at August 19, 2016 11:53 AM (LyISp)
another wow.
what a great story.
so you really did sort of make it to the end of the rainbow.
or the beginning.
Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 11:54 AM (eINs/)
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 11:50 AM (JBggj)
Incredible luck there. It was cool and overcast almost the entire trip. I came back with maybe three skeeter bites. There were horror stories about how bad they are if it's warm and sunny. Head nets needed, etc.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:55 AM (ZXR6+)
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I hate the guy.
A. He's an older guy.
B. Wears glasses
C. Picks up an unfamiliar 9mm compact and starts hitting an 18" gong 80 yards away.
It's disgusting.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 11:55 AM (9mTYi)
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Ben Secu-Hur.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 19, 2016 11:34 AM (ThLln)
You know it actually could be really good. And well done. But its just too bad that the commercials only focus on the chariot race and Morgan Freeman playing Morgan Freeman. No thanks.
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2016 11:56 AM (z/Ubi)
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Dang.
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 11:56 AM (JBggj)
Gay. You aren't going to hurt a trout if you handle it correctly.
...and...
Barbless hooks can do more damage than barbed hooks. They penetrate a lot deeper and do damage that does not heal as readily.
But, homos gotta homo.
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:56 AM (TjcfH)
or the beginning.
Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 11:54 AM (eINs/)
There were music celebs on this trip that have fished all the great trips, Amazon River for Peacock Bass, New Zealand, Argentina, etc. They agreed that nothing beats this place. These guys fish and hunt with Nugent and have pretty much done it all.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:57 AM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2016 11:57 AM (z/Ubi)
Herewith I shall start a truly geeky fish fight. (No, I don't technically expect anyone to play along).
You have your char, like the brook trout, Salvelinus Fontinalis (little salmon of the spring).
You have your true trout, like the brown trout, Salmo Trutta. Even the Atlantic Salmon is a salmo, Salmo Salar.
The rainbow (and steelhead, which is the sea run version of the same species) was Salmo Garnenieri. They somebody decided that the salmos were Atlantic and the rainbow is a Pacific basin fish, so the rainbow should be named with the five Pacific salmon "Oncorchyncus", so now it's Oncorchyncus Mykiss.
But the five Pacific salmon die when they spawn and the rainbow doesn't. Neither does the Atlantic salmon or the brown trount.
This is a Linnean Binomial fight worth fighting.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2016 11:57 AM (mgbwf)
Someone discussing automated automobiles again? Can't resist that dangling hook...
I lowly recommend "Getting From Here to There," my 30-"Daily Doodle" cartoon from June, 2013, musing on transportation, past, present, and especially future. Take your time; it's thick going, like Chicago highways at 5pm.
Starts here:
http://bit.ly/here2there-01
"They call me mellow yellow, quite rightly..."
* Climbs out before contracting a disease from the green waters *
Posted by: mindful webworker - electrickle banana at August 19, 2016 11:58 AM (wmyHK)
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I hate the guy.
A. He's an older guy.
B. Wears glasses
C. Picks up an unfamiliar 9mm compact and starts hitting an 18" gong 80 yards away.
It's disgusting.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
LOL.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2016 11:59 AM (ksPsw)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 19, 2016 11:59 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 11:59 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Crap.
"Yellow is the color of my true love's hair..."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:00 PM (9mTYi)
In contrast, Union cavalry fought well at Hanover and positioned itself at Gettyburg and stalled an advance, holding ground for I Corps to occupy. Lee had forces streched out to within sight of Harrisburg. he had to recall these and other forces and consoolidate.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 19, 2016 10:57 AM (326rv)
Lee did NOT want to fight a battle at Gettysburg. In fact his orders to the first Confederate division (Heth's) was that they were not to get committed to a general engagement. Heth thought that Buford's cavalry was a bunch of panicky Maryland militia and purposely disobeyed orders. By the time Heth figured out he was wrong, he was too deep in the $h!t to get out.
The guy that really won Gettysburg for the Union was Gen. John Buford. He correctly identified the composition of the approaching Confederate forces and defensible terrain favorable to the Union. He then delayed the Confederates long enough with his two brigades to allow the Army of the Potomac to converge.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 19, 2016 12:01 PM (YQ4mh)
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 12:01 PM (TjcfH)
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Forget it, Mike. It's YouTube.
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 12:01 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 11:56 AM (TjcfH)
Agreed. But I wasn't about to argue with a Russian guide over the finer points of C+R. They do disallow wide gap hooks on the mouse patterns which is a good idea as those patterns are "hook rides up" style which can lead to a hook in the brain.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:01 PM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 19, 2016 12:01 PM (3hIZX)
Posted by: dagny at August 19, 2016 12:02 PM (eSQgj)
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Crap.
"Yellow is the color of my true love's hair..."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:00 PM (9mTYi)
"Don't go where the huskies go
and don't you eat that yellow snow."
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 12:02 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 12:04 PM (Enq6K)
Picks up an unfamiliar 9mm compact and starts hitting an 18" gong 80 yards away.
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Forget it, Mike. It's YouTube.
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 12:01 PM
It might be like the I Love Lucy episode where Lucy is shooting at a faraway target and Ethel is up in a tree banging on a pan whenever Lucy fires.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2016 12:04 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:04 PM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: Hilary Clinton at August 19, 2016 12:05 PM (OwdyX)
Posted by: Goomba at August 19, 2016 12:05 PM (cjdxs)
I think it's an ovary
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That's what I think, too. My second thought was that "sperm" sketch in Woody Allen's "Everything You Wanted To Know About Sex ... (etc., etc.)".
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 12:05 PM (JBggj)
I don't like Keeled Hooks for Trout. They do kill fish and you don't need them. Lots of patterns that don't require them.
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 12:05 PM (TjcfH)
Posted by: Goomba at August 19, 2016 12:06 PM (cjdxs)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 19, 2016 12:06 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2016 12:01 PM (JBggj)
I dunno. My son is a ridiculously good shot with a handgun--any handgun. I think some people are just gifted that way: natural athleticism, marvelous eyesight, amazing hand-eye coordination. I'll give Hickock45 the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 12:06 PM (OGbEB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2016 12:06 PM (6HqlZ)
Posted by: donna at August 19, 2016 12:06 PM (O2RFr)
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Pop. Science article linked there clues you to how they think:
"Autonomous technology is similar: It won't make us safer until it's in most vehicles. Maybe it deserves special treatment to get it on the road."
I read that as: "Government support/mandates, legal exemptions, subsidies, etc."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:07 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Goomba at August 19, 2016 12:07 PM (cjdxs)
Posted by: Virgil Yellow at August 19, 2016 12:07 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 12:08 PM (TjcfH)
541 ace must be cleaning....
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 12:04 PM (Enq6K)
Or doing squats.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 12:08 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Yo! at August 19, 2016 12:08 PM (uPt3V)
Posted by: Dang at August 19, 2016 11:27 AM (k0G44)
He used to come into the gun store I once worked for in Nashville. Very personable and humorous guy, and a very imposing figure, 6'7" or 6'8".
Posted by: Country Singer at August 19, 2016 11:52 AM (uiwCw)
But he likes guns to make up for his lack of masculinity right?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 12:09 PM (QvdcM)
Posted by: Yo! at August 19, 2016 12:09 PM (uPt3V)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 11:50 AM (u0lmX)
Filet Mignon is to Suzanne Pleshette what a week old hunk of hamgurger found in a dumpster is to Lena Dunham.
Posted by: JackS at August 19, 2016 12:09 PM (hgwL9)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 12:09 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:09 PM (ZXR6+)
Bulls and Browns on the Streamer at the end of high water.
Browns and Rainbows on the Dry, Mid Spring. And Mid September.
Steelhead - Sept-Oct. and Feb-March.
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 12:09 PM (TjcfH)
Which is nonsense. Self drive cars will always have a built-in margin of unsafety no matter who else is on the road, because of the limitations of computer judgement. Further, the quality of the other drivers matters significantly more than the quantity; if they're all really good, then the selfdrive jobs are the menace.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 19, 2016 12:10 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:10 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 12:11 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Yeaux at August 19, 2016 12:11 PM (39g3+)
If you spend enough time with guides and article writers you'll be afraid to fish, period.
Posted by: Trouser Trout in a Barrel at August 19, 2016 12:11 PM (8Dorb)
541 ace must be cleaning....
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 12:04 PM (Enq6K)
Or doing squats.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 12:08 PM (u0lmX)
Squats could require cleaning afterwards....just depends.
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 12:12 PM (Enq6K)
"General" location? Sounds like Oregon maybe...
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:12 PM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:09 PM (ZXR6+)
An old Army buddy of mine lives in Kodiak, Alaska. Everyone carries pump shotguns in the woods. The first shell is a noisemaker. The second is loaded with birdshot. Everything after thatis aslug. Same rationale.
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 12:12 PM (OGbEB)
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 12:13 PM (TjcfH)
Yes, I handle them all the time. but you never argue with a Russian guide with a shotgun. They would literally blow kisses at these fish in the net.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:13 PM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 12:14 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Chi at August 19, 2016 12:14 PM (yy7cB)
Sounds like you're talking about fishing in Montana.
Posted by: JackS at August 19, 2016 12:14 PM (hgwL9)
Killer Angels is a great read on Gettysburg. Author Michael Shaara paints it as an escalating fight for who would control the higher ground, topographical and moral.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2016 12:14 PM (r1fLd)
Like mold on bread.
Like milk left in the sun for 3 days.
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2016 11:57 AM (z/Ubi)
Like a piece of cheese wrapped in an old sock in the bottom of a locker.
Yeah, we're all cultured and shit.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 12:15 PM (p/TYF)
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 12:12 PM (Enq6K)
If he's wearing depends, there'll be less cleaning needed.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2016 12:15 PM (0mRoj)
Idaho for the Steelies.
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 12:13 PM (TjcfH)
I can get free lodging in Idaho. Never gone after Steelies, but would like to try.
Merewife in the Bahamas right now, just got two bone fish yesterday. I'm jealous.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:16 PM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 19, 2016 12:16 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Trouser Trout in a Barrel at August 19, 2016 12:16 PM (8Dorb)
I don't want a self-driving car. I still drive a stick, for crying out loud.
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2016 12:16 PM (zoehZ)
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Pop. Science article linked there clues you to how they think:
"Autonomous technology is similar: It won't make us safer until it's in most vehicles. Maybe it deserves special treatment to get it on the road."
I read that as: "Government support/mandates, legal exemptions, subsidies, etc."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:07 PM (9mTYi)
I read that as "I'm an idiot who has never spent a day in a factory with automated equipment and watched as shit got fucked up real good because a photo eye went out or a robot got out of sequence.
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2016 12:16 PM (z/Ubi)
I've got the hook up on the Bow.
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 12:16 PM (TjcfH)
Posted by: JackS
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Heh. I read that as "... flossing in Montana."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:17 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:16 PM (ZXR6+)
The Paolo, he help to give her two bone fish.
Posted by: Paolo at August 19, 2016 12:17 PM (0mRoj)
I've got the hook up on the Bow.
Another great river. Would like that.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:18 PM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 19, 2016 12:18 PM (y9jfe)
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:16 PM (ZXR6+)
The Paolo, he help to give her two bone fish.
Posted by: Paolo
Holy mackerel!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2016 12:18 PM (ksPsw)
Posted by: buzzion
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Houston, we have a problem...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:19 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:19 PM (ZXR6+)
This. Will.
Oh. Eggs.
Eggs left in the sun for a while will stink like Death for a week when broken. You can't wash that smell away with a garden hose.
Posted by: Chi at August 19, 2016 12:19 PM (yy7cB)
Heth thought that Buford's cavalry was a bunch of panicky Maryland militia and purposely disobeyed orders. By the time Heth figured out he was wrong, he was too deep in the $h!t to get out.
When the black hats from the Iron Brigade showed up he knew he was in trouble
Posted by: Bo at August 19, 2016 12:19 PM (lKyWE)
576 I know the wall get willowed and/or ignored, but has anyone used a pedometer app on your smartphone?
Posted by: Chi at August 19, 2016 12:14 PM (yy7cB)
I let mine run on my iPhone. I have no idea as to its accuracy though.
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2016 12:19 PM (z/Ubi)
582 For a group called "Black Lives Matter" the sure aren't doing anything to help all those black people in Louisiana...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 19, 2016 12:16 PM (39g3+)
blm hasn't figured out how to blame the weather on whites yet.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 12:19 PM (u0lmX)
Or an ovary?
Posted by: M Magoo
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Fallopian tubes, Magoo. Put on your glasses.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:20 PM (9mTYi)
His great-great-grandson is Anderson Cooper.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 19, 2016 12:21 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:19 PM (ZXR6+)
The Paolo he LOVE 38 Special! Rockin' Into the Night is the favorites song of the Paolo!
Posted by: Paolo at August 19, 2016 12:21 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 12:21 PM (TjcfH)
Of course. Yes. Fenelon Tubes.
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 19, 2016 12:21 PM (y9jfe)
576 I know the wall get willowed and/or ignored, but has anyone used a pedometer app on your smartphone?
Posted by: Chi at August 19, 2016 12:14
Hawwy Weid does -- he's into all things pedo!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 19, 2016 12:22 PM (H5WWY)
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They weren't robbing convenience stores so their lives don't matter.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 19, 2016 12:22 PM (DfF0K)
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:23 PM (ZXR6+)
Au contraire, there is "environmental justice" activism.
IIRC, the term was coined, or at least popularized, by the one czar who left the Obama admin early in when his commie/shady past came to light (can't think of his name - he's all over CNN).
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 12:23 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: HiHo at August 19, 2016 12:23 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 19, 2016 12:24 PM (C7Ccr)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 12:24 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 19, 2016 12:25 PM (y9jfe)
Posted by: HiHo
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*note to self: cut back on the Scotch*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:25 PM (9mTYi)
His great-great-grandson is Anderson Cooper.
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So Killcavalry begot Killcountry.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 19, 2016 12:25 PM (S6rNx)
By Georgia O'Keefe
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 19, 2016 12:26 PM (3hIZX)
Posted by: Lizzy
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The personification of a water melon.
Wait... can I say that? Is that racist?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:26 PM (9mTYi)
Where have you been?
Posted by: Anthropomorphic Global Warmening at August 19, 2016 12:26 PM (l4AmA)
I don't want a self-driving car. I still drive a stick, for crying out loud.
Posted by: rickl
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I took a Lyft ride not long ago for the first time. (Great idea. I hope someone gets rich off this idea)
The guy had a beautiful new little SUV. I dont know what it was, buT it was a 5 speed. I didn't even know they still made manual gearboxes these days. I haven't seen a new car with one in years .
Posted by: Chi at August 19, 2016 12:27 PM (yy7cB)
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 12:27 PM (ZXR6+)
Posted by: Goomba at August 19, 2016 12:27 PM (cjdxs)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 12:28 PM (oqkO3)
These NeverTrump Republicans are betting there's a conservative electorate that is thrilled they threw their lot in with Hillary. Good luck with that.
FYI, Nixon happily endorsed Barry Goldwater early on despite the Establishment shunning him and Nixon went on to win 49 states.
Posted by: Maritime at August 19, 2016 12:28 PM (Q33jy)
the ones that looked like cow skulls.
not the weird ones.
artists.
Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 12:29 PM (eINs/)
Wait... can I say that? Is that racist?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:26 PM (9mTYi)
No. It's homiophobic. You're calling him a fruit.
Posted by: JackS at August 19, 2016 12:29 PM (hgwL9)
Creatine is one of the few supplements that is proven to work. It aint steroids, tho. Not even close. But it works.
Posted by: M Magoo's at August 19, 2016 12:30 PM (y9jfe)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Actually...
Fourteen arrests in Baton Rouge for looting, as of a couple of days ago. Including a couple of convenience stores. I've seen the mug shots.
#BLM
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 19, 2016 12:30 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: garrett at August 19, 2016 12:08 PM (TjcfH)
Clemenza - Leave the pubes. Take the cannelini.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 19, 2016 12:30 PM (493sH)
the ones that looked like cow skulls.
not the weird ones.
artists.Posted by: concrete girl at August 19, 2016 12:29 PM (eINs/)
You're a poet, aren't you?I'm betting agood one.
Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2016 12:31 PM (OGbEB)
Posted by: Goomba at August 19, 2016 12:32 PM (cjdxs)
I let mine run on my iPhone. I have no idea as to its accuracy though.
Posted by: buzzion
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You answered my unasked question, thank you.
I just found this, but it tells me I walked a mile yesterday - I never left the house/yard .
While this is possible, I think it's off.
Not by a mile, Seamus.
Posted by: Chi at August 19, 2016 12:32 PM (yy7cB)
Posted by: HiHo at August 19, 2016 12:32 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Shrillary's Vagina at August 19, 2016 12:33 PM (Ixqnq)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2016 12:20 PM (9mTYi)
And with binoculars, you can see the far-flung Isles of Langerhans.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 12:33 PM (p/TYF)
Posted by: Goomba at August 19, 2016 12:32 PM (cjdxs)
Same here. Right after this bowl of pasta.
Posted by: jwest at August 19, 2016 12:33 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Goomba at August 19, 2016 12:34 PM (cjdxs)
Posted by: Goomba at August 19, 2016 12:35 PM (cjdxs)
Posted by: Maritime at August 19, 2016 12:28 PM (Q33jy)
Yeah, well, too bad Nixon's endorsement did not result in a 49-state win for Goldwater.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 12:35 PM (p/TYF)
Posted by: OregonMuse
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26 miles across the sea
The Langerhans are calling to me...
Posted by: The Kingston Trio at August 19, 2016 12:36 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: jwest
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*looks at watch*
Dammit, you're supposed to be at the doctor's office.
Posted by: The Kingston Trio at August 19, 2016 12:37 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2016 10:08 AM (0tfLf)
Well, that at least takes some technical skill to pull it off. Yellow blobs, not so much.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 12:38 PM (oqkO3)
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 19, 2016 12:38 PM (MIKMs)
And with binoculars, you can see the far-flung Isles of Langerhans.
Posted by: OregonMuse
Sounds like Firesign Theater.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2016 12:39 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 19, 2016 12:38 PM (MIKMs)
Excellent movie with Helen "GILF for sure" Mirren, "Woman In Gold."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 12:40 PM (9P3OG)
Posted by: Goomba at August 19, 2016 12:40 PM (cjdxs)
Posted by: OregonMuse
Sounds like Firesign Theater.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2016 12:39 PM (IqV8l)
I don't know, I think we're all bozos on this bus.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 12:41 PM (p/TYF)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 12:35 PM (p/TYF)
The JFK assassination is what elected LBJ. Minus the Joe Kennedy cheat factor, Goldwater could have and might have beat him in '64. The economy sucked, we lost Cuba and he almost started World War 3.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 12:42 PM (9P3OG)
"Kuh-limpp-uuh-ffffttt. Goostauve Kllimmpppfffte"
one of those funner names to pronounce.
Posted by: General Zod at August 19, 2016 12:43 PM (Bdeb0)
somewhere here this week. Fascinating piece and the political aspects
would have made the Horde incandescent.
Heh, I suggested that on Wednesday. I enjoyed the movie and had missed the brouhaha about its ownership.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2016 12:43 PM (NOIQH)
Anyhoo, I found a print, had it framed and it's in my man cave.
Posted by: Hank at August 19, 2016 10:13 AM (3jkkr)
http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/2471405.jpg
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 12:43 PM (oqkO3)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 12:44 PM (9P3OG)
Posted by: HH at August 19, 2016 12:44 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 19, 2016 12:45 PM (1ZOkK)
Luego 'rons.
Posted by: Goomba at August 19, 2016 12:45 PM (cjdxs)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 12:42 PM (9P3OG)
I just got finished watching the mini-series "11-22-63", about an English teacher (James Franco) who goes back in time to stop the JFK assassination. He finally does so, returns to the present, and surprise, America is now a post-apocalypic wasteland. Apparently, JFK didn't govern so good.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 12:46 PM (p/TYF)
Posted by: OregonMuse
I think you're missing the point?
Goldwater was basically a pariah and many Republicans thought by distancing themselves from him, they would be rewarded.
They weren't, the next nominee was Richard Nixon, and he clearly didn't pay a political price for early on endorsing "crazy" Barry Goldwater that lost like 45 states.
Ronald Reagan also endorsed Goldwater early on and it didn't hurt his political career either.
This idea that the "holdouts" are going to run the GOP if Trump loses is a Beltway Delusion.
Posted by: Maritime at August 19, 2016 12:46 PM (Q33jy)
Very dear schoolmate of mine, who died at the age of 37 after 11 years with brain cancer, did a lot of pro bono work trying to repatriate Nazi-looted artworks.
As an aside, she went to Harvard and then Harvard Law about the same time as you-know-who. Only she had perfect 4.0's all the way. I wonder what she would've said about him.
RIP Max. Miss you, my dear.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 12:46 PM (9P3OG)
If it's based on the Stephen King book, I'll pass.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 12:47 PM (9P3OG)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 19, 2016 12:45 PM (1ZOkK)
In Los Angeles? Yes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 12:48 PM (9P3OG)
Posted by: Chi at August 19, 2016 12:49 PM (yy7cB)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 19, 2016 12:45 PM (1ZOkK)
He's the reverse Midas. The waters are rising. He's blaming Bush, while golfing.
Posted by: JackS at August 19, 2016 12:50 PM (hgwL9)
The leftists, who now decry processed foods, are the ones who pushed that crap off on the public in the first place. Because "science." Hearty American farm meals were difficult to recreate in tiny urban kitchens and tasty dishes from European immigrant cultures were discouraged and consumers were encouraged to go for the canned and the bland as being healthier. Proggie Eleanor Roosevelt, who had no taste buds to speak of, was a huge proponent of "plain meals" and friends with the female nutritionists who were really pushing this stuff.
So - tell that to the leftists who blame the convenience food culture on capitalism. Like Prohibition, this was a prog blunder that progs then turned around and blamed conservatives for.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 12:50 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Chi at August 19, 2016 12:49 PM (yy7cB)
Not the people. But the electoral situations, although there are other factors that make each on unique in their own right.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 19, 2016 12:51 PM (9P3OG)
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 12:52 PM (Enq6K)
Problem with me is lack of physical conditioning, lack of practical training (i.e., I was USAF under Carter), neighbors I like on both sides too close to use practical ammo, live about a block from the nearest mosque, dozens of rent houses within 1000 feet, and soft tissue sarcoma in my cheek. Too late in life to restart defending y'all and no money left for any hobbies 'til I'm cured. And by then my wife will probably demand I take up something expensive like home repairs (by people with actual contractor licenses) or road trips (that don't include fun places like MD Anderson).
I want to apologize to anyone offended by this. I have a DD-214, so I don't need to; but some folks are perpetually outraged. And I don't really want them to waste their social justice bile and spleen-venting on a short-timer like me.
Posted by: setnaffa at August 19, 2016 12:53 PM (jl6Ly)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 19, 2016 10:19 AM (KUaJL)
Maybe you want to rethink that? Some drivers may be altruistic. A few years ago, there was a big flood on the Red Deer river here in Alberta. A bunch of very foolish people were crowded on the Morrin Bridge on Highway 27 watching the flood waters rage beneath them. Along came a loaded semi truck. Did I mention this bridge is in the bottom of a canyon, so big hills on each side of it? The driver was going pretty fast; no way he could stop, so he steered away from the bridge, and went into the river. Truck and driver never have been found, despite the fact that in late summer, it is a placid stream you can wade across in most places.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 12:53 PM (oqkO3)
sniper: 0
Waldo: 0
cat: 0 (cat vomit, but not actually cat)
It's like I don't know you anymore, horde!
Posted by: mindful webworker - Ace who? at August 19, 2016 12:54 PM (wmyHK)
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 12:55 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: HiHo at August 19, 2016 12:55 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 12:55 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2016 12:56 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: HiHo at August 19, 2016 12:56 PM (CPk08)
I was speaking more to Maritime, but I get your point. Somewhat.
Alas, I decided long ago not to get into politics in the comments. No good can come of it. So I'll just say shalom.
Posted by: Chi at August 19, 2016 12:57 PM (yy7cB)
Posted by: mindful webworker - unapologetically at August 19, 2016 12:57 PM (wmyHK)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 12:53 PM (oqkO3)
Maybe you want to reread what he wrote. If its a situation of you the driver dying or people on the road dying, you're not going to get the blame. Now if you go and they live instead yeah you gave your life for theirs and its all well and good too.
You aren't really in disagreement.
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2016 01:00 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 19, 2016 01:00 PM (ZwMN7)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 19, 2016 12:46 PM (p/TYF)
I haven't seen the series, so I don't know how they address it, but a running theme through the book is that time itself actively tries to prevent changes to the past. I really enjoyed the parts of the book that take place in the past, but once it returns to the dystopian present, King's inability to stick the landing, and his now ever-present lefty politics, come up again. We don't learn much about what caused the changes, but apparently after Kennedy's second term, George Wallace won (as a Republican) and then Reagan won in '76 over Humphrey. It's at some point not long after that that there's nuclear war, because of course. The alterations to time are causing natural disasters, and despite Hillary Clinton being president in the alternate future no one has any hope.
Posted by: El Skippito Friskito at August 19, 2016 01:01 PM (kZVsz)
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2016 01:04 PM (z/Ubi)
I think the issue is that the computer would be programmed to save it's occupants (although, really, a fully automated truck would have no humans to save and *should* be programmed to sacrifice itself) and would mow down the people in the road (I guess that would be one way to deal with BLM roadblocks). Sure, it might not be considered at fault, but that wouldn't help the injured and dead in the way that the human driver's sacrifice did.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 19, 2016 01:08 PM (GDulk)
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Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2016 01:11 PM (dIc3Q)
Posted by: setnaffa at August 19, 2016 01:14 PM (jl6Ly)
Posted by: Meremortal at August 19, 2016 11:38 AM (ZXR6+)
Was it all catch and release, or did you get to eat any, or bring home frozen fish?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2016 01:27 PM (oqkO3)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 19, 2016 01:00 PM (ZwMN7)
So they're hamster powered?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 19, 2016 01:34 PM (QvdcM)
Posted by: buzzion at August 19, 2016 01:04 PM (z/Ubi)
That's a toughie, and personally I think a mom's first duty is to her kids. However, these sorts of tough moral decisions are not ones that should be made automatically by an inanimate object.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 19, 2016 01:55 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 19, 2016 02:13 PM (0wojp)
Posted by: Whitehall at August 20, 2016 06:17 AM (Teh/e)
The model needs to hydrate more ans spend less time in third world countries.
The crappy an lazy nature of art is a symptom of social decline.
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