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Tuesday Morning News Dump (8/16/16)
- The V.A. first it was art, now TV sets that don't work. Job well done-NOT
- Hillary Clinton suborning illegal voting
- Milwaukee man shot by P.D. has lengthy record. No kidding?
- Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me.
- Tragic auto crash in Rio
- F.B.I. considers giving Congress Clinton interview notes
- Obama administration flips off America
- G.O.P talking tough
- Suspect arrested in NYC Imam shooting
- Does this sailor qualify for the Clinton defense?
CaptainPresident Obvious
- We have taken in more Syrian refugees than all of E.U.
- Sore loser
- Huh? Never heard of it. Now it's canceled.
- Genius Award
- Feel good story of the day
Comments
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A big fan of all of Larry Wilmores stuff
Posted by: Bruce at August 16, 2016 07:54 AM (8ikIW)
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Um, who is he again?
Posted by: Bruce at August 16, 2016 07:55 AM (8ikIW)
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Ooo lot of links.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 16, 2016 07:55 AM (L62jT)
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Got the bronze.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 16, 2016 07:57 AM (L62jT)
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Lay's french onion dip and club crackers the breakfast of champions.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 16, 2016 07:58 AM (L62jT)
Posted by: @votermom at August 16, 2016 08:00 AM (7lVbc)
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I downloaded krak's books to my phone.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 16, 2016 08:02 AM (L62jT)
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We're getting to the point where soon, the only thing the police will be doing will be manning DUI check points and investigating homicides the next morning. No more responding to crimes in progress or real-time law enforcement at all. Whose to blame them?
But on the bright side - the anarchists will be happy.
But on the bright side - the anarchists will be happy.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 08:03 AM (4ng05)
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Here s more of Hillary's foreign policy;
"Rampaging South Sudan troops raped foreigners, killed local"
"On July 11, South Sudanese troops, fresh from winning a battle in the capital, Juba, over opposition forces, went on a nearly four-hour rampage through a residential compound popular with foreigners, in one of the worst targeted attacks on aid workers in South Sudan's three-year civil war. They shot dead a local journalist while forcing the foreigners to watch, raped several foreign women, singled out Americans, beat and robbed people and carried out mock executions, several witnesses told The AP. "
http://tinyurl.com/zgpmjcr
"Rampaging South Sudan troops raped foreigners, killed local"
"On July 11, South Sudanese troops, fresh from winning a battle in the capital, Juba, over opposition forces, went on a nearly four-hour rampage through a residential compound popular with foreigners, in one of the worst targeted attacks on aid workers in South Sudan's three-year civil war. They shot dead a local journalist while forcing the foreigners to watch, raped several foreign women, singled out Americans, beat and robbed people and carried out mock executions, several witnesses told The AP. "
http://tinyurl.com/zgpmjcr
Posted by: Marcus T at August 16, 2016 08:04 AM (Ug8ez)
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But on the bright side - the anarchists will be happy.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 08:03 AM (4ng05)
So your suggesting a career change for me to be happy?
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 08:03 AM (4ng05)
So your suggesting a career change for me to be happy?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:04 AM (zp+j1)
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Morning! I got nuthin'
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 16, 2016 08:05 AM (UpGcq)
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Yes, Sylville Smith had a long record. Did the police need to kill him? Who is going to teach the children the skills he had acquired?
Posted by: Chicago Vota at August 16, 2016 08:06 AM (VxB/n)
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So the FBI is considering giving the Clinton interview notes.
I certainly hope they aren't inconvenienced in any way. That would suck. Freaking congress and all of their imposing on people and shit.
I certainly hope they aren't inconvenienced in any way. That would suck. Freaking congress and all of their imposing on people and shit.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 08:07 AM (4ng05)
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Yes, Sylville Smith had a long record. Did the police need to kill him? Who is going to teach the children the skills he had acquired?
Posted by: Chicago Vota at August 16, 2016 08:06 AM (VxB/n)
don't worry, BLM has that covered
Posted by: Chicago Vota at August 16, 2016 08:06 AM (VxB/n)
don't worry, BLM has that covered
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:07 AM (zp+j1)
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So your suggesting a career change for me to be happy?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:04 AM (zp+j1)
Special assistant to Hal Steinbrenner?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:04 AM (zp+j1)
Special assistant to Hal Steinbrenner?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 08:07 AM (Zu3d9)
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BLM and the BP are stating they want to come to the suburbs and "burn them down".
They do realize of course that most of us who live in the "suburbs are well armed and won't just stand around and watch like they do in the city- right?
They do realize of course that most of us who live in the "suburbs are well armed and won't just stand around and watch like they do in the city- right?
Posted by: Marcus T at August 16, 2016 08:07 AM (Ug8ez)
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NYC caught the guy who shot the Imam..
Oscar Morel
http://tinyurl.com/jrfhtze
Decidedly NOT a skandi, More like a white hispanic
Motive yet to be determined..
Oscar Morel
http://tinyurl.com/jrfhtze
Decidedly NOT a skandi, More like a white hispanic
Motive yet to be determined..
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 08:07 AM (TQxRy)
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8 We're getting to the point where soon, the only thing the police will be doing will be manning DUI check points and investigating homicides the next morning. No more responding to crimes in progress or real-time law enforcement at all. Whose to blame them?"
In certain parts of town. And no, I don't blame them one bit. If the people in the inner city don't want police to enforce laws there - well, then let them have what they want. I don't care anymore. As long as it doesn't spread outside the 'hood.
In certain parts of town. And no, I don't blame them one bit. If the people in the inner city don't want police to enforce laws there - well, then let them have what they want. I don't care anymore. As long as it doesn't spread outside the 'hood.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 16, 2016 08:08 AM (P8951)
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Bittersweet story:
The remains of Marine PFC George Traver will return home, nearly 73 years after he was killed in action on Tarawa. He was buried in a mass grave that was only recently located.
RIP and thank you.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3739423/War-hero-finally-coming-home-Remains-
Marine-killed-bloody-WWII-battle-74-years-ago-
finally-identified-help-pocket-knife.html#ixzz4HGMRpSsg
Bittersweet story:
The remains of Marine PFC George Traver will return home, nearly 73 years after he was killed in action on Tarawa. He was buried in a mass grave that was only recently located.
RIP and thank you.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3739423/War-hero-finally-coming-home-Remains-
Marine-killed-bloody-WWII-battle-74-years-ago-
finally-identified-help-pocket-knife.html#ixzz4HGMRpSsg
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2016 08:09 AM (9P3OG)
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16 BLM and the BP are stating they want to come to the suburbs and "burn them down".
They do realize of course that most of us who live in the "suburbs are well armed and won't just stand around and watch like they do in the city- right?
Posted by: Marcus T at August 16, 2016 08:07 AM (Ug8ez
Shhhhh don't let them know
They do realize of course that most of us who live in the "suburbs are well armed and won't just stand around and watch like they do in the city- right?
Posted by: Marcus T at August 16, 2016 08:07 AM (Ug8ez
Shhhhh don't let them know
Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 16, 2016 08:09 AM (voOPb)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2016 08:10 AM (9P3OG)
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Special assistant to Hal Steinbrenner?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 08:07 AM (Zu3d9)
Absolutely , to make damn sure your know who NEVER gets a plaque in Monument Park.
Special assistant to Hal Steinbrenner?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 08:07 AM (Zu3d9)
Absolutely , to make damn sure your know who NEVER gets a plaque in Monument Park.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:10 AM (zp+j1)
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Now that they've determined that there might have been some bad blood between the muzzie and Latino gangs, I'm guessing that it's just about time for the gun control ranting to begin.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 08:11 AM (4ng05)
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Biden and Cankles on the same stage. That's about 70 combined years in Washington, with no achievements between them.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 08:11 AM (+wjl1)
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HillaryAir is absolutely delirious with excitement. McMullen is on the ballot in Utah, so Trump will lose those 5 EVs.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:12 AM (kfFTe)
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20 Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 16, 2016 08:09 AM (voOPb)
Watch who the DoJ go after if G-d forbid something happens. They've learned much from the Freddie Gray show trials.
Watch who the DoJ go after if G-d forbid something happens. They've learned much from the Freddie Gray show trials.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2016 08:12 AM (9P3OG)
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Funny how the shooter in NYC has numerous pictures on the front page while in custody and we know everything about him but his underwear size.
I don't condone what he did of course. But after every Muslim terrorist attack we had to wait days to hear who they were along with the statements about what they did Had nothing to do with Islam blah blah blah.
Oh and the local Jihadis want him hung because they've decided his motive had to do with them being Muslim.
I don't condone what he did of course. But after every Muslim terrorist attack we had to wait days to hear who they were along with the statements about what they did Had nothing to do with Islam blah blah blah.
Oh and the local Jihadis want him hung because they've decided his motive had to do with them being Muslim.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 16, 2016 08:12 AM (Ug8ez)
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at August 16, 2016 08:12 AM (p0XHr)
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6 EVs in Utah that is
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:13 AM (kfFTe)
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So the suspect in the NYC Muslim killing is a Hispanic and the motive might have been a Muslim-Hispanic feud?
My, how inconvenient for the media. If the suspect turns out to have a name like "Jose Torres" it might be difficult to portray him as a white Hispanic. I always thought one problem George Zimmerman had going for him was his name.
It's so surprising that Hispanics and Muslims are feuding isn't it? The left's pet victim groups don't seem to like each other very much.
My, how inconvenient for the media. If the suspect turns out to have a name like "Jose Torres" it might be difficult to portray him as a white Hispanic. I always thought one problem George Zimmerman had going for him was his name.
It's so surprising that Hispanics and Muslims are feuding isn't it? The left's pet victim groups don't seem to like each other very much.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 16, 2016 08:13 AM (P8951)
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HillaryAir is absolutely delirious with excitement. McMullen is on the ballot in Utah, so Trump will lose those 5 EVs.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:12 AM (kfFTe)
excitement or excrement?
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:12 AM (kfFTe)
excitement or excrement?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:14 AM (zp+j1)
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O-Care sticker shock
average increase is 24%
http://tinyurl.com/h2bw7br
Working as planned and right on time for Hillz to propose Medicare for all.
average increase is 24%
http://tinyurl.com/h2bw7br
Working as planned and right on time for Hillz to propose Medicare for all.
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 08:16 AM (TQxRy)
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You know what pisses me off? All of the "Jamaican," "Canadian," and "Bahamian" athletes who are residents of the US, and products of the US university machine. I'd really like to know what the criteria is to be a "Jamaican" Olympian.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 16, 2016 08:17 AM (SeD0w)
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I'd really like to know what the criteria is to be a "Jamaican" Olympian.
I think you have to have once drunk a Red Stripe.
I think you have to have once drunk a Red Stripe.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 16, 2016 08:18 AM (PFy0L)
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26 20 Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 16, 2016 08:09 AM (voOPb)
Watch who the DoJ go after if G-d forbid something happens. They've learned much from the Freddie Gray show trials.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2016 08:12 AM (
We learned from the Korean rooftop brigade
Watch who the DoJ go after if G-d forbid something happens. They've learned much from the Freddie Gray show trials.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2016 08:12 AM (
We learned from the Korean rooftop brigade
Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 16, 2016 08:18 AM (voOPb)
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32 O-Care sticker shock
average increase is 24%
http://tinyurl.com/h2bw7br
Working as planned and right on time for Hillz to propose Medicare for all.
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 08:16 AM (TQxRy)
____
Yep.
Which is why I always cringe when I hear people get excited about O-Care imploding. Yeah it's imploding as it was planned to implode. And once it does, President Hillary with help from Ryan/McConnell will save the time by implementing govt run health care.
average increase is 24%
http://tinyurl.com/h2bw7br
Working as planned and right on time for Hillz to propose Medicare for all.
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 08:16 AM (TQxRy)
____
Yep.
Which is why I always cringe when I hear people get excited about O-Care imploding. Yeah it's imploding as it was planned to implode. And once it does, President Hillary with help from Ryan/McConnell will save the time by implementing govt run health care.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:19 AM (kfFTe)
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Working as planned and right on time for Hillz to propose Medicare for all.
Yep. And HillaryCare 2.0 will be about as successful as HillaryCare 1.0. Before we get there though, we, the people who actually pay taxes, will have to bail out the insurance companies who got swindled into O-care. Then we'll get to Socialist Nirvana.
Yep. And HillaryCare 2.0 will be about as successful as HillaryCare 1.0. Before we get there though, we, the people who actually pay taxes, will have to bail out the insurance companies who got swindled into O-care. Then we'll get to Socialist Nirvana.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 16, 2016 08:20 AM (SeD0w)
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24 Biden and Cankles on the same stage. That's about 70 combined years in Washington, with no achievements between them.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 08:11 AM (+wjl1)
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Depends on how you define achievement. I'd say contributing to the destruction of the greatest country on earth is quite an achievement if you're a devout leftist.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 08:11 AM (+wjl1)
___
Depends on how you define achievement. I'd say contributing to the destruction of the greatest country on earth is quite an achievement if you're a devout leftist.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:21 AM (kfFTe)
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It hasn't been publicized much - after all who has the time in between bashing Trump 24/7 - but Colorado is voting on implementing a state run govt run health care in November. And I think it will pass easily. After all what's not to love, you get freeeeeeeee health care and those evil monstrous murdering corporations get to pay for it all.
Google Colorado Amendment 69 (no that is not a joke)
Google Colorado Amendment 69 (no that is not a joke)
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:23 AM (kfFTe)
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we, the people who actually pay taxes, will have to bail out the insurance companies who got swindled into O-care.
I'm in big pharma... you'll have to pay my industry as well.
Pharma made a sweet deal with Obama with visions of all the prescriptions that would be written through O-Care.
When the $ doesnt materialize. they will downsize
(oooh, thats sounds a little like Jesse Jackson)
I'll have to go on the dole.
Pay me now or pay me later....
I'm in big pharma... you'll have to pay my industry as well.
Pharma made a sweet deal with Obama with visions of all the prescriptions that would be written through O-Care.
When the $ doesnt materialize. they will downsize
(oooh, thats sounds a little like Jesse Jackson)
I'll have to go on the dole.
Pay me now or pay me later....
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 08:24 AM (TQxRy)
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BLM and the BP are stating they want to come to the suburbs and "burn them down".
Thanks for the reminder. It's ammo purchase day.
Thanks for the reminder. It's ammo purchase day.
Posted by: V the K at August 16, 2016 08:26 AM (O7MnT)
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Colorado is voting on implementing a state run govt run health care in November.
Well, states were envisioned as the laboratories to try these concepts out.
pretty sure this has been tried and failed in a few states.
but I'm sure THIS time it will work !
Well, states were envisioned as the laboratories to try these concepts out.
pretty sure this has been tried and failed in a few states.
but I'm sure THIS time it will work !
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 08:27 AM (TQxRy)
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Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 16, 2016 08:09 AM (voOPb)
As I said in the ONT thread, I mentioned the threat against the 'burbs to suburbanites yesterday. They all started laughing. "Sure, just try it!"
As I said in the ONT thread, I mentioned the threat against the 'burbs to suburbanites yesterday. They all started laughing. "Sure, just try it!"
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (whitely waiting for the ballgame) at August 16, 2016 08:27 AM (P8951)
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"O-Care sticker shock
average increase is 24%"
AETNA is dropping out of the exchanges. Huge losses since due to sicker than expected enrollees.
Shocker. Nobody saw that coming.
These insurance companies deserve to go bankrupt and forced out of business and their management team jailed for their complicity in this disaster. If oil execs can be prosecuted for misrepresenting imaginary research that proved global warming was real before anybody heard of it surely these executives can be prosecuted for misrepresenting what they surely knew was a financial disaster in the making.
average increase is 24%"
AETNA is dropping out of the exchanges. Huge losses since due to sicker than expected enrollees.
Shocker. Nobody saw that coming.
These insurance companies deserve to go bankrupt and forced out of business and their management team jailed for their complicity in this disaster. If oil execs can be prosecuted for misrepresenting imaginary research that proved global warming was real before anybody heard of it surely these executives can be prosecuted for misrepresenting what they surely knew was a financial disaster in the making.
Posted by: Ripley at August 16, 2016 08:27 AM (1BQGO)
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but I'm sure THIS time it will work !
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 08:27 AM (TQxRy)
If only Comrade Stalin knew
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 08:27 AM (TQxRy)
If only Comrade Stalin knew
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:28 AM (zp+j1)
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Sources pointed to an ongoing feud between Muslims and Hispanics in the
neighborhood, saying the shooting may have been payback after a group of
Muslims allegedly attacked some Hispanics a few weeks earlier.
I just knew it was Trump and those damn bible-and-gun clinging racist red state white Americans!!!!!!!!
Wait, what?
neighborhood, saying the shooting may have been payback after a group of
Muslims allegedly attacked some Hispanics a few weeks earlier.
I just knew it was Trump and those damn bible-and-gun clinging racist red state white Americans!!!!!!!!
Wait, what?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2016 08:28 AM (NOIQH)
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BLM and the BP are stating they want to come to the suburbs and "burn them down".
Me: Oh, its real easy to get into the city from where we live
Uncle Pat: That just means its easy for the city to come to you.
Me: Oh, its real easy to get into the city from where we live
Uncle Pat: That just means its easy for the city to come to you.
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 08:28 AM (TQxRy)
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These insurance companies deserve to go bankrupt and forced out of business and their management team jailed for their complicity in this disaster. If oil execs can be prosecuted for misrepresenting imaginary research that proved global warming was real before anybody heard of it surely these executives can be prosecuted for misrepresenting what they surely knew was a financial disaster in the making.
Posted by: Ripley at August 16, 2016 08:27 AM (1BQGO)
Yup
Posted by: Ripley at August 16, 2016 08:27 AM (1BQGO)
Yup
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:28 AM (zp+j1)
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ObamaCare isn't failing, it's working. It's designed to destroy the insurance industry and be replaced by single payer.
Posted by: Jean at August 16, 2016 08:29 AM (ngn8T)
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I guess Colorado will be happy when the evil corporations move out of their state. My state will welcome them.
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at August 16, 2016 08:29 AM (8cftc)
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Via Insty:
Hilarious! and just in time for Rapey Tuesday!
Feminist apologist for rapey Bill Clinton!
The "reasoning" involved?
Your grandfather that's right your sweet old grampa was probably a rapist too.
Behold the Majesty of Leftard Synapse Misfires!
http://twitchy.com/sd-3133/2016/08/15/news-to-us-
wonkette-editor-if-bill-clintons-a-rapist-it-doesnt-make-
him-a-bad-feminist/
(remove extra spaces)
Hilarious! and just in time for Rapey Tuesday!
Feminist apologist for rapey Bill Clinton!
The "reasoning" involved?
Your grandfather that's right your sweet old grampa was probably a rapist too.
Behold the Majesty of Leftard Synapse Misfires!
http://twitchy.com/sd-3133/2016/08/15/news-to-us-
wonkette-editor-if-bill-clintons-a-rapist-it-doesnt-make-
him-a-bad-feminist/
(remove extra spaces)
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 08:29 AM (HGtd0)
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McMittens will barely get 1% of the Utah vote. Nobody knows who he is and nobody cares.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 16, 2016 08:29 AM (d85U+)
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I'm pretty sure Larry Wilmore got the kiss of death from King Shit Midas. Failure surrounds Obama like the stench of rape surrounds Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Fritz at August 16, 2016 08:30 AM (2Mnv1)
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The German Bank KfW is funding a waste treatment plant on condition that it be built in "Area C" and only serve the Arab population, the Legal Forum for Israel asserted Tuesday.
According to the Forum, this same bank also funded the establishment of a water purification plant near the Jewish community of Psagot in the Binyamin region, which is dirtying the water flowing through the nearby valley of Wadi Kelt. The Legal Forum warns that the establishment of the new waste treatment plant near the Jewish community of Rimonim will cause serious damage to a nearby archaeological site dating to biblical times.
According to the Forum, this same bank also funded the establishment of a water purification plant near the Jewish community of Psagot in the Binyamin region, which is dirtying the water flowing through the nearby valley of Wadi Kelt. The Legal Forum warns that the establishment of the new waste treatment plant near the Jewish community of Rimonim will cause serious damage to a nearby archaeological site dating to biblical times.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:30 AM (zp+j1)
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49 ObamaCare isn't failing, it's working. It's designed to destroy the insurance industry and be replaced by single payer.
Posted by: Jean at August 16, 2016 08:29 AM (ngn8T
Visit tonight's ONT a certain OB discusses that.
Posted by: Jean at August 16, 2016 08:29 AM (ngn8T
Visit tonight's ONT a certain OB discusses that.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 16, 2016 08:31 AM (voOPb)
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g'mornin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 16, 2016 08:32 AM (ZQfW9)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at August 16, 2016 08:33 AM (VfGfs)
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Re: Imam shooter
They're testing out the
'He was Catholic and hated muslims since 9-11'
angle
http://tinyurl.com/jq9hy8r
They're testing out the
'He was Catholic and hated muslims since 9-11'
angle
http://tinyurl.com/jq9hy8r
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 08:35 AM (TQxRy)
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But I thought all minorities got along so well together with only teh eviil whiteys stirring up trubble
Posted by: @votermom at August 16, 2016 08:35 AM (7lVbc)
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57 Milwaukee
Ferguson
Ya, it's a real puzzle.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at August 16, 2016 08:33 AM (VfGfs)
Don't know about Ferguson, but I can guess.
Milwaukee has a mayor with the pizazz of a houseplant, the ambition of houseplant, and the brains of a, yes, houseplant.
Ferguson
Ya, it's a real puzzle.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at August 16, 2016 08:33 AM (VfGfs)
Don't know about Ferguson, but I can guess.
Milwaukee has a mayor with the pizazz of a houseplant, the ambition of houseplant, and the brains of a, yes, houseplant.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 16, 2016 08:37 AM (voOPb)
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I love Lonnie Wiltmore.
Posted by: Joe at August 16, 2016 08:37 AM (7HtZB)
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Frankly, I take great comfort in the fact that after they are done burning shit down, hurting innocent people, lauding criminals, launching prejudiced invective, threatening mayhem and killing each other, they go right back to the miserable, hopeless, poor, disgusting, dependent lives their Democrat Party Masters and acolytes have given them.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 16, 2016 08:38 AM (Ug8ez)
Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2016 08:38 AM (fA75F)
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I chuckled....
Italian restaurant under fire for selling 'Black Olives Matter' merchandise
http://tinyurl.com/gspbzva
Italian restaurant under fire for selling 'Black Olives Matter' merchandise
http://tinyurl.com/gspbzva
Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2016 08:38 AM (Enq6K)
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Milwaukee has a mayor with the pizazz of a houseplant, the ambition of houseplant, and the brains of a, yes, houseplant.
Houseplants FTW!
Houseplants FTW!
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 16, 2016 08:40 AM (7jTtI)
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I'm not a hunter so help me out with the outrage over the hunter killing a bear with a spear. It seems to me that people should approve of this because under such conditions the bear has at least as much of a chance as the hunter. Or is it just the weird novelty of it?
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 16, 2016 08:40 AM (RD7QR)
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"But I thought all minorities got along so well together with only teh eviil whiteys stirring up trubble
Posted by: @votermom"
Oddly, I haven't noticed illegal Hispanics flooding majority black areas of Atlanta and overwhelming the schools and hospitals there with their anchor babies.
Posted by: @votermom"
Oddly, I haven't noticed illegal Hispanics flooding majority black areas of Atlanta and overwhelming the schools and hospitals there with their anchor babies.
Posted by: Ripley at August 16, 2016 08:40 AM (1BQGO)
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58 Re: Imam shooter
They're testing out the
'He was Catholic and hated muslims since 9-11'
angle
http://tinyurl.com/jq9hy8r
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 08:35 AM (TQxRy)
It took 15 years for the "backlash" to happen.
They're testing out the
'He was Catholic and hated muslims since 9-11'
angle
http://tinyurl.com/jq9hy8r
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 08:35 AM (TQxRy)
It took 15 years for the "backlash" to happen.
Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2016 08:40 AM (7HtZB)
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49 ObamaCare isn't failing, it's working. It's designed to destroy the insurance industry and be replaced by single payer.
Posted by: Jean at August 16, 2016 08:29 AM (ngn8T
If we were smart (which of course, we're not), we would jump on this failure of Obamacare to institute a substitute that would work.
However, in order to do so, we have to get over the knee-jerk reaction to "single payer". We on the right need to understand the terminology and the numbers to make an informed decision.
When we talk about catastrophic care, we're only discussing a tiny percentage of the population who isn't already covered with government "single payer". Trading away that miniscule segment of healthcare in order to get Health Savings Accounts and a direct, free market patient to doctor system for everyday healthcare is a great deal for conservatives.
Of course, only about 2% of the people understand this, so it will never happen.
Posted by: Jean at August 16, 2016 08:29 AM (ngn8T
If we were smart (which of course, we're not), we would jump on this failure of Obamacare to institute a substitute that would work.
However, in order to do so, we have to get over the knee-jerk reaction to "single payer". We on the right need to understand the terminology and the numbers to make an informed decision.
When we talk about catastrophic care, we're only discussing a tiny percentage of the population who isn't already covered with government "single payer". Trading away that miniscule segment of healthcare in order to get Health Savings Accounts and a direct, free market patient to doctor system for everyday healthcare is a great deal for conservatives.
Of course, only about 2% of the people understand this, so it will never happen.
Posted by: jwest at August 16, 2016 08:41 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2016 08:41 AM (NOIQH)
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The thing with Obacamare is it's not just premiums and which insurer is selling what. O-Care basiclaly got rid of insurance. What we have now isn't insurance. If I can get "insurance" after I get sick, it's not longer insurance. And the govt dictates that every policy is exactly the same. They all have to cover the same things and the price is set by the govt as well.
So we already have govt run health care for all intents and purposes. All Aetna, United, BCBS do is administer the paperwork on behalf of the govt. They're govt subcontractors and nothing more.
So we already have govt run health care for all intents and purposes. All Aetna, United, BCBS do is administer the paperwork on behalf of the govt. They're govt subcontractors and nothing more.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:42 AM (kfFTe)
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The thing with Obacamare is it's not just premiums and which insurer is selling what. O-Care basiclaly got rid of insurance. What we have now isn't insurance. If I can get "insurance" after I get sick, it's not longer insurance. And the govt dictates that every policy is exactly the same. They all have to cover the same things and the price is set by the govt as well.
So we already have govt run health care for all intents and purposes. All Aetna, United, BCBS do is administer the paperwork on behalf of the govt. They're govt subcontractors and nothing more.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:42 AM (kfFTe)
Well not exactly. The "networks" are so restrictive, that not is it doubtful your DR is on it ( of course unless your DR is a foreign trained DR who speaks pigeon english), but your Hospital may not even on it
So we already have govt run health care for all intents and purposes. All Aetna, United, BCBS do is administer the paperwork on behalf of the govt. They're govt subcontractors and nothing more.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:42 AM (kfFTe)
Well not exactly. The "networks" are so restrictive, that not is it doubtful your DR is on it ( of course unless your DR is a foreign trained DR who speaks pigeon english), but your Hospital may not even on it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:44 AM (zp+j1)
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WIlmore supposedly made a joke that his cancellation meant that apparently racism was solved in America.
Look, ass, if you think your show is there to solve racism, maybe that's the reason no one was watching.
Look, ass, if you think your show is there to solve racism, maybe that's the reason no one was watching.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 08:45 AM (+wjl1)
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When we talk about catastrophic care, we're only discussing a tiny percentage of the population who isn't already covered with government "single payer". Trading away that miniscule segment of healthcare in order to get Health Savings Accounts and a direct, free market patient to doctor system for everyday healthcare is a great deal for conservatives.
Of course, only about 2% of the people understand this, so it will never happen.
Posted by: jwest at August 16, 2016 08:41 AM (Zs4uk)
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When have you ever known a govt program designed to help 2% of the population NOT balloon to helping 100%? Food stamps was initially a program meant to keep people from starving to death. Now you can buy steak and lobster using food stamps.
Think man, think!
Of course, only about 2% of the people understand this, so it will never happen.
Posted by: jwest at August 16, 2016 08:41 AM (Zs4uk)
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When have you ever known a govt program designed to help 2% of the population NOT balloon to helping 100%? Food stamps was initially a program meant to keep people from starving to death. Now you can buy steak and lobster using food stamps.
Think man, think!
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:45 AM (kfFTe)
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Donald Trump yesterday spelled out an immigration position. "Those who do not believe in our Constitution, or who support bigotry and hatred, will not be admitted for immigration into the country."
from NRO:
It takes an Ivy League education to object to using our borders to keep out Jew-haters, gay-killers, and apostate-stoners. And, sure enough, in the Washington Post, Politico, and elsewhere, a passel of experts tells us that this is crazy, illegal, unconstitutional, and various other adjectives.
from NRO:
It takes an Ivy League education to object to using our borders to keep out Jew-haters, gay-killers, and apostate-stoners. And, sure enough, in the Washington Post, Politico, and elsewhere, a passel of experts tells us that this is crazy, illegal, unconstitutional, and various other adjectives.
Posted by: V the K at August 16, 2016 08:45 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 08:45 AM (Zu3d9)
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I'm not a hunter so help me out with the outrage over the hunter killing a bear with a spear. It seems to me that people should approve of this because under such conditions the bear has at least as much of a chance as the hunter. Or is it just the weird novelty of it?
As I commented yesterday, when Inuit and Native Americans do it, it is cultural, yet when a cracker does it, it's OMG!!
As I commented yesterday, when Inuit and Native Americans do it, it is cultural, yet when a cracker does it, it's OMG!!
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 16, 2016 08:46 AM (7jTtI)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 08:45 AM (Zu3d9)
Hey how do you like the new baby Bombers so far?
Hey how do you like the new baby Bombers so far?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:46 AM (zp+j1)
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I'm not a hunter so help me out with the outrage over the hunter killing a bear with a spear. It seems to me that people should approve of this because under such conditions the bear has at least as much of a chance as the hunter. Or is it just the weird novelty of it?
I think the outrage from the hunters is because A) it problably *looks* bad on video and gives the antihunters something to latch onto. B) When hunting I've been taught to dispatch the animal as quickly and painlessly as possible. Killing a bear with a spear is probably not that.
I think the outrage from the hunters is because A) it problably *looks* bad on video and gives the antihunters something to latch onto. B) When hunting I've been taught to dispatch the animal as quickly and painlessly as possible. Killing a bear with a spear is probably not that.
Posted by: GMan at August 16, 2016 08:47 AM (sxq57)
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Isn't this Whitemore fella the guy that did the Grapenut
teevee commercials? He had a show? I thought he was dead.
I guess I need to catch up on my pop culture stuff. Ignorance of this stuff has it's rewards though.
teevee commercials? He had a show? I thought he was dead.
I guess I need to catch up on my pop culture stuff. Ignorance of this stuff has it's rewards though.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 16, 2016 08:47 AM (d85U+)
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Well not exactly. The "networks" are so restrictive, that not is it doubtful your DR is on it ( of course unless your DR is a foreign trained DR who speaks pigeon english), but your Hospital may not even on it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:44 AM (zp+j1)
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Again you're missing the point. Regardless of what network you're in, the rules/pricing are set by the govt. It's almost like a school district. Doesn't matter what district you live in, the curriculum is set by the state.
People are too focused on the networks and shit like that and fail to see the bigger picture.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:44 AM (zp+j1)
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Again you're missing the point. Regardless of what network you're in, the rules/pricing are set by the govt. It's almost like a school district. Doesn't matter what district you live in, the curriculum is set by the state.
People are too focused on the networks and shit like that and fail to see the bigger picture.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:47 AM (kfFTe)
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jwest ... I understand what you're saying, in principle.
The problem is, the GOP we currently have would turn that into a clusterfvck in no time. Never forget ... they're socialists too.
The best we can hope for on this, as with everything else Federal, is a spectacular crash and burn followed by the whole damn program going away.
The problem is, the GOP we currently have would turn that into a clusterfvck in no time. Never forget ... they're socialists too.
The best we can hope for on this, as with everything else Federal, is a spectacular crash and burn followed by the whole damn program going away.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 16, 2016 08:47 AM (RKJF2)
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It hasn't been publicized much - after all who has the time in between bashing Trump 24/7 - but Colorado is voting on implementing a state run govt run health care in November. And I think it will pass easily. After all what's not to love, you get freeeeeeeee health care and those evil monstrous murdering corporations get to pay for it all.
Google Colorado Amendment 69 (no that is not a joke)
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:23 AM (kfFTe)
I live here in Colorado (exiled because my southern Italian wife couldn't take the heat of south Texas - identical to southern Italy, btw). Anyway... I remember a few months ago, there was an article out on quality of life of different American cities. When they described Denver, they used one word - unaffordable.
I'm certain that state run healthcare will help put the exclamation point on that adjective nicely.
Google Colorado Amendment 69 (no that is not a joke)
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:23 AM (kfFTe)
I live here in Colorado (exiled because my southern Italian wife couldn't take the heat of south Texas - identical to southern Italy, btw). Anyway... I remember a few months ago, there was an article out on quality of life of different American cities. When they described Denver, they used one word - unaffordable.
I'm certain that state run healthcare will help put the exclamation point on that adjective nicely.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 08:48 AM (4ng05)
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I live here in Colorado (exiled because my southern Italian wife couldn't take the heat of south Texas - identical to southern Italy, btw). Anyway... I remember a few months ago, there was an article out on quality of life of different American cities. When they described Denver, they used one word - unaffordable.
I'm certain that state run healthcare will help put the exclamation point on that adjective nicely.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 08:48 AM (4ng05)
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Huh? But if I get free health care won't that make Denver more affordable?
- LIVs all over Denver
I'm certain that state run healthcare will help put the exclamation point on that adjective nicely.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 08:48 AM (4ng05)
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Huh? But if I get free health care won't that make Denver more affordable?
- LIVs all over Denver
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:49 AM (kfFTe)
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Hey how do you like the new baby Bombers so far?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:46 AM (zp+j1)
Very much. It's the only way the Yankees are going to get better, so I'm glad Cashman has pulled his head out of his ass.
Now they need some speed on the bases and maybe they can win a few games.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:46 AM (zp+j1)
Very much. It's the only way the Yankees are going to get better, so I'm glad Cashman has pulled his head out of his ass.
Now they need some speed on the bases and maybe they can win a few games.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 08:49 AM (Zu3d9)
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I'd really like to know what the criteria is to be a "Jamaican" Olympian.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin
It's a tattoo thing.
The difference between "Wendy" and "Welcome to Jamaica mon, have a nice day."
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin
It's a tattoo thing.
The difference between "Wendy" and "Welcome to Jamaica mon, have a nice day."
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2016 08:50 AM (tIja6)
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Denver is basically Los Angeles now....illegals, smog, high cost of living, votes 75% Democrat. Except it also snows in April.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:51 AM (kfFTe)
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>>they go right back to the miserable, hopeless, poor,
disgusting, dependent lives their Democrat Party Masters and acolytes
have given them.Posted by: Marcus T at August 16, 2016 08:38 AM (Ug8ez)
With apologies to Wellington: "They fouled their nests in the same old way, and we returned them to their filth in the same old way." Or something like that...
disgusting, dependent lives their Democrat Party Masters and acolytes
have given them.Posted by: Marcus T at August 16, 2016 08:38 AM (Ug8ez)
With apologies to Wellington: "They fouled their nests in the same old way, and we returned them to their filth in the same old way." Or something like that...
Posted by: General Zod at August 16, 2016 08:51 AM (Bdeb0)
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pretty sure this has been tried and failed in a few states.
*****
Green Mountain Care died in the womb in Vermont, due to high projected costs. Passed by the legislature but never really implemented.
*****
Green Mountain Care died in the womb in Vermont, due to high projected costs. Passed by the legislature but never really implemented.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 08:51 AM (wPiJc)
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Again you're missing the point. Regardless of what network you're in, the rules/pricing are set by the govt. It's almost like a school district. Doesn't matter what district you live in, the curriculum is set by the state.
People are too focused on the networks and shit like that and fail to see the bigger picture.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:47 AM (kfFTe)
I am not focused on anything. Your the one focused on a single part of the Fredocare and on that I do not disagree with you, but the problems are much bigger than that. And because of some of the huge deductibles, it hardly matters what is or is not covered because people are not even using their plans since they are to expensive.
People are too focused on the networks and shit like that and fail to see the bigger picture.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:47 AM (kfFTe)
I am not focused on anything. Your the one focused on a single part of the Fredocare and on that I do not disagree with you, but the problems are much bigger than that. And because of some of the huge deductibles, it hardly matters what is or is not covered because people are not even using their plans since they are to expensive.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:51 AM (zp+j1)
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Soros hack shows spider web of orgs he funded:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/h39e7l4
Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2016 08:41 AM (NOIQH)
This is bound to get next to ZERO MSM coverage, because...
EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS THAT THE OLD EVIL BASTARD HAS BEEN UNDERMINING SOCIETIES FOR DECADES FOR HIS OWN PROFIT...
and since he is all down with the authoritarian leftism... meh.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/h39e7l4
Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2016 08:41 AM (NOIQH)
This is bound to get next to ZERO MSM coverage, because...
EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS THAT THE OLD EVIL BASTARD HAS BEEN UNDERMINING SOCIETIES FOR DECADES FOR HIS OWN PROFIT...
and since he is all down with the authoritarian leftism... meh.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 08:52 AM (4ng05)
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When have you ever known a govt program designed to help 2% of the population NOT balloon to helping 100%? Food stamps was initially a program meant to keep people from starving to death. Now you can buy steak and lobster using food stamps.
Think man, think!
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:45 AM (kfFTe)
What I was saying is that 98% of the people utilizing catastrophic healthcare are already covered by Medicare, Medicaid and veteran's benefits. The remaining 2% are those unfortunate 18 to 62 year olds who contract a serious disease or have an accident.
Let that segment go.
Concentrate on the everyday care and totally eliminating insurance companies by utilizing HSAs and a direct payment to the provider. Allow advertising, let the doctors compete for the business. Have an automated website that takes payment information and shows consumers what the going rate is at different providers for the same procedure.
Think man, think!
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:45 AM (kfFTe)
What I was saying is that 98% of the people utilizing catastrophic healthcare are already covered by Medicare, Medicaid and veteran's benefits. The remaining 2% are those unfortunate 18 to 62 year olds who contract a serious disease or have an accident.
Let that segment go.
Concentrate on the everyday care and totally eliminating insurance companies by utilizing HSAs and a direct payment to the provider. Allow advertising, let the doctors compete for the business. Have an automated website that takes payment information and shows consumers what the going rate is at different providers for the same procedure.
Posted by: jwest at August 16, 2016 08:52 AM (Zs4uk)
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Now they need some speed on the bases and maybe they can win a few games.
Why wouldn't the lead runner just stop on every base and snort that shit up ?
Why wouldn't the lead runner just stop on every base and snort that shit up ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 16, 2016 08:53 AM (RKJF2)
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>>You know what pisses me off? All of the "Jamaican," "Canadian," and "Bahamian" athletes who are residents of the US, and products of the US university machine. I'd really like to know what the criteria is to be a "Jamaican" Olympian.
It's all different now. I was watching some of the Spain vs Argentina basketball game last night. Pau Gasol vs. Manu Ginobili. Some of our volleyball players play professionally in Europe. When baseball comes back in Japan it will be filled with MLB players from around the world.
It's no longer the amateur Olympics.
It's all different now. I was watching some of the Spain vs Argentina basketball game last night. Pau Gasol vs. Manu Ginobili. Some of our volleyball players play professionally in Europe. When baseball comes back in Japan it will be filled with MLB players from around the world.
It's no longer the amateur Olympics.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2016 08:54 AM (/tuJf)
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WIlmore's biggest problem is that the only headlines his show ever made it for getting canceled.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 08:55 AM (+wjl1)
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89 pretty sure this has been tried and failed in a few states.
*****
Green Mountain Care died in the womb in Vermont, due to high projected costs. Passed by the legislature but never really implemented.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 08:51 AM (wPiJc)
Hawaii has or had a state-run health care system
*****
Green Mountain Care died in the womb in Vermont, due to high projected costs. Passed by the legislature but never really implemented.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 08:51 AM (wPiJc)
Hawaii has or had a state-run health care system
Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2016 08:55 AM (7HtZB)
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Larry Wilmore down, Trevor Noah to go.
Always wondered why more singing groups don't hold forth spontaneously in public when stuck in line waiting. Heard a barbershop quartet do that in a K-Mart once, decades ago. It made everybody's day. And how about that Dick Van Dyke?
Always wondered why more singing groups don't hold forth spontaneously in public when stuck in line waiting. Heard a barbershop quartet do that in a K-Mart once, decades ago. It made everybody's day. And how about that Dick Van Dyke?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2016 08:55 AM (tIja6)
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Concentrate on the everyday care and totally eliminating insurance companies by utilizing HSAs and a direct payment to the provider. Allow advertising, let the doctors compete for the business. Have an automated website that takes payment information and shows consumers what the going rate is at different providers for the same procedure.
Posted by: jwest at August 16, 2016 08:52 AM (Zs4uk)
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That can happen today, we don't need a govt program for it. I've had an HSA forever. And I comparison shop as well. All you have to do is ask for the price and most places will negotiate too, and give you significant discounts if you prepay.
The problem is our society doesn't want that because it takes effort. They want Uncle Barack or Aunt Hillary to give them everything for free without having to lift a finger.
Posted by: jwest at August 16, 2016 08:52 AM (Zs4uk)
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That can happen today, we don't need a govt program for it. I've had an HSA forever. And I comparison shop as well. All you have to do is ask for the price and most places will negotiate too, and give you significant discounts if you prepay.
The problem is our society doesn't want that because it takes effort. They want Uncle Barack or Aunt Hillary to give them everything for free without having to lift a finger.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:55 AM (kfFTe)
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 16, 2016 08:56 AM (7jTtI)
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Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:55 AM (kfFTe)
People negotiate with me all the time
People negotiate with me all the time
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:56 AM (zp+j1)
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In Re: Sidebar Reince Priebus.
I disagree. I think he has done a pretty good job this time around. He has kept himself out of the controversy, kept the RNC out of the primaries except as an organizer for certain events, kept the convention on track and on the rules. Considering all of the emotional over-reacting going on, that is no mean feet. That there are still those squawking off with one hare-brained plan after another is nothing he can control, in fact just let them.
I disagree. I think he has done a pretty good job this time around. He has kept himself out of the controversy, kept the RNC out of the primaries except as an organizer for certain events, kept the convention on track and on the rules. Considering all of the emotional over-reacting going on, that is no mean feet. That there are still those squawking off with one hare-brained plan after another is nothing he can control, in fact just let them.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Know Your Place! The Outrage Outlet has Official DNC Oppression Hierarchy Cards! at August 16, 2016 08:57 AM (hLRSq)
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Well back in the old days the commie block teams and athletes were hardly "amateurs".
Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2016 08:57 AM (fA75F)
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It's no longer the amateur Olympics.
It quit being that when the NBA played in the Olympics.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 16, 2016 08:56 AM (7jTtI)
well yes that is partially true, but it was never really "amateur". The Eastern Block were all "Pros" and so were most of the big Track Stars.
It quit being that when the NBA played in the Olympics.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 16, 2016 08:56 AM (7jTtI)
well yes that is partially true, but it was never really "amateur". The Eastern Block were all "Pros" and so were most of the big Track Stars.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:58 AM (zp+j1)
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Hawaii doesn't have a full fledged govt run system like CO is proposing. Vermont would have been close, but it never happened.
And this is why leftists evetually win....it failed in VT. Did they say, oh well we tried? Fuck no. They moved on to the next battle. And if it doesn't pass in CO, they'll try in WA or CA or OR and they'll keep trying until eventually it will happen.
Compare that to Republicans who try one time for a tax cut, it doesn't happen...oh well we tried. Maybe we'll try again in 20 years.
And this is why leftists evetually win....it failed in VT. Did they say, oh well we tried? Fuck no. They moved on to the next battle. And if it doesn't pass in CO, they'll try in WA or CA or OR and they'll keep trying until eventually it will happen.
Compare that to Republicans who try one time for a tax cut, it doesn't happen...oh well we tried. Maybe we'll try again in 20 years.
Posted by: #neverskankles at August 16, 2016 08:58 AM (kfFTe)
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It's no longer the amateur Olympics.
That goes back to the first Soviet appearance in 1952. It was a great era for military precision shooting, I can tell you. All over now, though.
The Cherman bloke who won Men's 50M Rifle is on scholarship at West Virginia.
That goes back to the first Soviet appearance in 1952. It was a great era for military precision shooting, I can tell you. All over now, though.
The Cherman bloke who won Men's 50M Rifle is on scholarship at West Virginia.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2016 08:58 AM (tIja6)
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People negotiate with me all the time
Only because they can't get out of that damn chair, and they haven't made it all the way to "acceptance" yet.
Only because they can't get out of that damn chair, and they haven't made it all the way to "acceptance" yet.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 16, 2016 08:59 AM (RKJF2)
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People negotiate with me all the time
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:56 AM (zp+j1)
****
Yep. I got a crown for $700 instead of $1200 by privately paying the dentist in cash.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:56 AM (zp+j1)
****
Yep. I got a crown for $700 instead of $1200 by privately paying the dentist in cash.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 16, 2016 08:59 AM (oHJJ8)
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Most's people who have a Fredocare plan have a plan about as useless as Tits on Bull.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:59 AM (zp+j1)
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Yep. I got a crown for $700 instead of $1200 by privately paying the dentist in cash.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 16, 2016 08:59 AM (oHJJ
Well that was not with me..I will negotiate, but draw the line at getting raped. LOL
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 16, 2016 08:59 AM (oHJJ
Well that was not with me..I will negotiate, but draw the line at getting raped. LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:00 AM (zp+j1)
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What I was saying is that 98% of the people utilizing catastrophic healthcare are already covered by Medicare, Medicaid and veteran's benefits. The remaining 2% are those unfortunate 18 to 62 year olds who contract a serious disease or have an accident.
****
Do you have a source to cite for these numbers?
****
Do you have a source to cite for these numbers?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 09:01 AM (wPiJc)
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People negotiate hondle with me all the time
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:56 AM (zp+j1)
FIFY....
[and you call yourself a Joooo?]
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 08:56 AM (zp+j1)
FIFY....
[and you call yourself a Joooo?]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 09:01 AM (Zu3d9)
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Local radio guys talking about Biden's treefrogging the hill: Hal- Looks like he was trying to grab her butt. Brian- If he was trying to do that he should have started last Wednesday.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 16, 2016 09:02 AM (RnKax)
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Do you have a source to cite for these numbers?
Completely made up. Just like 73.6% of all other statistics.
Completely made up. Just like 73.6% of all other statistics.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 16, 2016 09:04 AM (RKJF2)
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Well that was not with me..I will negotiate, but draw the line at getting raped. LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:00 AM (zp+j1)
****
This was back in '08 when things were very slow for them.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:00 AM (zp+j1)
****
This was back in '08 when things were very slow for them.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at August 16, 2016 09:04 AM (oHJJ8)
115
Local radio guys talking about Biden's treefrogging the hill: Hal- Looks like he was trying to grab her butt. Brian- If he was trying to do that he should have started last Wednesday.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 16, 2016 09:02 AM (RnKax)
______________________________
that was hurtful...
*hic*
Posted by: Ben Had at August 16, 2016 09:02 AM (RnKax)
______________________________
that was hurtful...
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 16, 2016 09:04 AM (HSmrB)
116
Maybe that feminist so willing to forgive Bill's rapes should see this?
In the email chain, flight records show that former President Bill
Clinton flew around the world multiple times on the billionaire's
private jet, which was dubbed the "Lolita Express" for its reported
reputation of onboard orgies. Clinton took more than 26 flights with
Epstein around the world, and flew 10 times abroad to party at the
Epstein island home in question, during that period, according to FAA
flight logs. The flight logs show that Clinton dismissed his U.S. Secret
Service detail for five of those trips.
Considering ol' Bill lets the SS witness his visits from the "energizer bunny" he must have been up to some really kinky and/or questionable stuff (no SS witnesses?).
http://preview.tinyurl.com/z22s4rq
In the email chain, flight records show that former President Bill
Clinton flew around the world multiple times on the billionaire's
private jet, which was dubbed the "Lolita Express" for its reported
reputation of onboard orgies. Clinton took more than 26 flights with
Epstein around the world, and flew 10 times abroad to party at the
Epstein island home in question, during that period, according to FAA
flight logs. The flight logs show that Clinton dismissed his U.S. Secret
Service detail for five of those trips.
Considering ol' Bill lets the SS witness his visits from the "energizer bunny" he must have been up to some really kinky and/or questionable stuff (no SS witnesses?).
http://preview.tinyurl.com/z22s4rq
Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2016 09:05 AM (NOIQH)
117
Hey Nevergiveup --
I'm not seeing any story that imam shooter had a motive. Where did you hear/see that?
I'm not seeing any story that imam shooter had a motive. Where did you hear/see that?
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:05 AM (ZnIt3)
118
Negotiating is always easier when you've got a madman with an agonizer in your mouth.
Posted by: Fritz at August 16, 2016 09:06 AM (2Mnv1)
119
Do you have a source to cite for these numbers?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 09:01 AM (wPiJc)
I'm not even sure what "catastrophic" means any more.
We have the proverbial "gold-plated plan," but the deductible is so high that we only hit it occasionally (Lithotripsy!).
So for most people in our situation, for all intents and purposes insurance is simply a cost, with no benefit.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 09:01 AM (wPiJc)
I'm not even sure what "catastrophic" means any more.
We have the proverbial "gold-plated plan," but the deductible is so high that we only hit it occasionally (Lithotripsy!).
So for most people in our situation, for all intents and purposes insurance is simply a cost, with no benefit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 09:06 AM (Zu3d9)
120
Quick, non-partisan observation:
Comcast's headlines about Trump are vomit inducing.
That is all.
Comcast's headlines about Trump are vomit inducing.
That is all.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:06 AM (4ng05)
121
Serious Question ...
... anybody think Trump can piss off Hillary! bad enough to induce a stroke during the debate ? 'Cause I would totally watch that.
... anybody think Trump can piss off Hillary! bad enough to induce a stroke during the debate ? 'Cause I would totally watch that.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 16, 2016 09:07 AM (RKJF2)
122
Better yet, someone should ask Hilly why she let her husband pal around with a pedo like Epstein.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 09:07 AM (+wjl1)
123
Hey Nevergiveup --
I'm not seeing any story that imam shooter had a motive. Where did you hear/see that?
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:05 AM (ZnIt3)
Just that his brother said they are good Catholics who were made at and hated Muslims on 9/11?????
I'm not seeing any story that imam shooter had a motive. Where did you hear/see that?
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:05 AM (ZnIt3)
Just that his brother said they are good Catholics who were made at and hated Muslims on 9/11?????
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:07 AM (zp+j1)
124
These insurance companies deserve to go bankrupt and forced out of business and their management team jailed for their complicity in this disaster.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
F-you!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
F-you!
Posted by: GM, Chrysler, Goldman-Sachs, Citigroup, Merrill-Lynch Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac et al at August 16, 2016 09:08 AM (SeD0w)
125
Don't forget about us!
Posted by: Oh, and, GE at August 16, 2016 09:08 AM (SeD0w)
126
>>>"If you do not like Kyrgyzstan you can leave our country and go wherever you want."
"We can pay your travel expenses, even to Syria."
This President of Kyrgyztan is awesome. If more Muslims were like him, there'd be no problem.
"We can pay your travel expenses, even to Syria."
This President of Kyrgyztan is awesome. If more Muslims were like him, there'd be no problem.
Posted by: Roger Waters at August 16, 2016 09:09 AM (uz/Pv)
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Just that his brother said they are good Catholics who were made at and hated Muslims on 9/11?????Posted by: Nevergiveup
Yeah, but where? Source. I just went through six articles and didn't see anything like that.
Yeah, but where? Source. I just went through six articles and didn't see anything like that.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:09 AM (ZnIt3)
128
So for most people in our situation, for all intents and purposes insurance is simply a cost, with no benefit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 09:06 AM (Zu3d9)
But...but...but...
YOU HAVE INSURANCE!!!
What more do you want?
Takers. Sheesh.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 09:06 AM (Zu3d9)
But...but...but...
YOU HAVE INSURANCE!!!
What more do you want?
Takers. Sheesh.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:09 AM (4ng05)
129
Off, pink sock.
Posted by: Yuimetal at August 16, 2016 09:09 AM (uz/Pv)
Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at August 16, 2016 09:10 AM (/CXhS)
131
Maybe we should just do away with health insurance as a model.
Posted by: @votermom at August 16, 2016 09:11 AM (7lVbc)
132
>>Better yet, someone should ask Hilly why she let her husband pal around with a pedo like Epstein.
Well, attempt to ask her - they have to go through Huma, Hillary's gatekeeper, just like Bill does.
Hey, I'm starting to think those two aren't living their lives as a loving married couple, you guys!
Well, attempt to ask her - they have to go through Huma, Hillary's gatekeeper, just like Bill does.
Hey, I'm starting to think those two aren't living their lives as a loving married couple, you guys!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2016 09:11 AM (NOIQH)
133
Yeah, but where? Source. I just went through six articles and didn't see anything like that.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:09 AM (ZnIt3)
NY Post has it
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:09 AM (ZnIt3)
NY Post has it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:12 AM (zp+j1)
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Hey, I'm starting to think those two aren't living their lives as a loving married couple, you guys!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2016 09:11 AM (NOIQH)
_____________________________________
that was hurtful too....
*hic*
Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2016 09:11 AM (NOIQH)
_____________________________________
that was hurtful too....
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 16, 2016 09:12 AM (HSmrB)
135
One of the BIG reasons I fought to get an Age Waiver and Stay in The Navy is the Health Insurance, Tricare.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:13 AM (zp+j1)
136
How soon until the msm refers to the imam shooter as a "white hispanic"?
Posted by: Yuimetal at August 16, 2016 09:13 AM (uz/Pv)
137
My newest gift to my Marvel Universe: Lesbo Lass! She/he/it can morph into LGBTQXYZ or an Olympic athlete or an unprecedented presidential candidate! LL is a corker!
Posted by: STAN LEE at August 16, 2016 09:13 AM (gwG9s)
138
So for most people in our situation, for all intents and purposes insurance is simply a cost, with no benefit.
We have "good" insurance through my employer. Unless, God forbid, me or one of my family ends up in a long hospital stay, there is no benefit. We get a "discount" on (in network!) services, but it comes nowhere near what my employer and I pay for the plan. I have to hit a $7,500.00 deductible, THEN my employer pays the next $5,000.00, THEN insurance kicks in. It sucks.
We have "good" insurance through my employer. Unless, God forbid, me or one of my family ends up in a long hospital stay, there is no benefit. We get a "discount" on (in network!) services, but it comes nowhere near what my employer and I pay for the plan. I have to hit a $7,500.00 deductible, THEN my employer pays the next $5,000.00, THEN insurance kicks in. It sucks.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 16, 2016 09:13 AM (SeD0w)
139
Maybe we should just do away with health insurance as a model.
--
Yes, we should. One's car insurance doesn't cover tire rotation, oil changes, or maintenance related repairs, so why does health insurance?
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Yes, we should. One's car insurance doesn't cover tire rotation, oil changes, or maintenance related repairs, so why does health insurance?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 16, 2016 09:13 AM (7ZVPa)
140
58 Re: Imam shooter
They're testing out the
'He was Catholic and hated muslims since 9-11'
angle
http://tinyurl.com/jq9hy8r
Posted by: McCool
That's some slow-as$ muslim backlash they got workiin' there.
58 Re: Imam shooter
They're testing out the
'He was Catholic and hated muslims since 9-11'
angle
http://tinyurl.com/jq9hy8r
Posted by: McCool
That's some slow-as$ muslim backlash they got workiin' there.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 16, 2016 09:13 AM (kfcYC)
141
Well,CAIR has been hoping for a martyr...
Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2016 09:14 AM (fA75F)
142
That's some slow-as$ muslim backlash they got workiin' there.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 16, 2016 09:13 AM (kfcYC)
Americans just don't backlash like they used to.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 16, 2016 09:13 AM (kfcYC)
Americans just don't backlash like they used to.
Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2016 09:14 AM (Enq6K)
143
>>Yes, we should. One's car insurance doesn't cover tire rotation, oil changes, or maintenance related repairs, so why does health insurance?
If you want something to cost more, subsidize it. You'd think we might have learned that by now.
If you want something to cost more, subsidize it. You'd think we might have learned that by now.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2016 09:14 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 09:15 AM (+wjl1)
145
Maybe we should just do away with health insurance as a model.Posted by: @votermom
I know when I ran a small to middlin' size business I sent the health insurance carrier about $100, 000 a year. I knew everybodies business, when they or spouse got sick, kids injured, that kinda stuff. For that hundred grand we probably all got about five grand in actual services.
Year after year, same ratio - 5% benefit. It's a racket.
I know when I ran a small to middlin' size business I sent the health insurance carrier about $100, 000 a year. I knew everybodies business, when they or spouse got sick, kids injured, that kinda stuff. For that hundred grand we probably all got about five grand in actual services.
Year after year, same ratio - 5% benefit. It's a racket.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:16 AM (ZnIt3)
146
My Leukemia drug cost $10,701.80 a month. I would prefer they don't fuck up my insurance.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 16, 2016 09:16 AM (jsWA8)
147
I guess the insurance companies believed Gruber? Hard to believe such stupidity could exist in the private sector.
Posted by: Yuimetal at August 16, 2016 09:17 AM (uz/Pv)
148
So jwest, if I'm understanding your suggestion, you are saying that whatever small percentage of privately insured patients who have catastrophic (high dollar) injury or illness should be thrown on the taxpayer-funded pile because it's such a small number in the grand scheme of things.
As CBD obliquely points out, that then hinges on what the definition of "catastrophic" is. So in essence you are talking about setting a floor on taxpayer-funded healthcare, below which you would pay for your own care and above which you wouldn't.
What dollar limit do you propose per annum?
'Cause I'll guarantee you, nobody knows what that number should be. Ten grand? twenty? thirty? Similar schemes have been tried locally in various places, and the howling from the entitlement crowd is deafening.
As CBD obliquely points out, that then hinges on what the definition of "catastrophic" is. So in essence you are talking about setting a floor on taxpayer-funded healthcare, below which you would pay for your own care and above which you wouldn't.
What dollar limit do you propose per annum?
'Cause I'll guarantee you, nobody knows what that number should be. Ten grand? twenty? thirty? Similar schemes have been tried locally in various places, and the howling from the entitlement crowd is deafening.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 09:17 AM (wPiJc)
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:17 AM (ZnIt3)
150
>>My Leukemia drug cost $10,701.80 a month. I would prefer they don't fuck up my insurance.
The reason it costs so much is because insurance has been fucked up for a long, long time.
Same reason that one year in college now costs more than my four years combined.
The reason it costs so much is because insurance has been fucked up for a long, long time.
Same reason that one year in college now costs more than my four years combined.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2016 09:17 AM (/tuJf)
151
One's car insurance doesn't cover tire rotation, oil changes, or maintenance related repairs, so why does health insurance?
Well it does make sense to cover "Well Care"- check-ups and basics. Not only does it cut down on bigger bills and treatment down the line, but it is actually cost effective in the long run.
Well it does make sense to cover "Well Care"- check-ups and basics. Not only does it cut down on bigger bills and treatment down the line, but it is actually cost effective in the long run.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:17 AM (zp+j1)
152
So now all the Muslims are going to call for sending the Mess'cans home?
Watching this will require some halal sriracha popcorn.
Watching this will require some halal sriracha popcorn.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2016 09:18 AM (tIja6)
153
The only purpose to insurance-- the reason it was intended-- is to have a pool to pay off catastrophic expenses.
What we have today is not 'insurance,' it is a service plan.
What we have today is not 'insurance,' it is a service plan.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 09:18 AM (+wjl1)
154
His brother Alvin Morel told the New York Post that his brother had anger at Muslims over 9/11 but that it was only 'temporary' and he now 'definitely has no hate' for them.He said: 'The only time we ever felt anything was 9/11,' Alvin Morel said. 'We felt that same anger. We all had a hatred.'
Ditto.
Ditto.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:19 AM (ZnIt3)
155
Yes, we should. One's car insurance doesn't cover
tire rotation, oil changes, or maintenance related repairs, so why does
health insurance?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 16, 2016 09:13 AM (7ZVPa)
It's a flawed analogy, because auto insurance doesn't cover non-maintenance-related repairs either.
But the overall point is valid. If we can return to a system that allowed people to see the actual costs, they would be able to make more rational decisions.
I realize that comparison shopping for a physician is not always the best way to get good care, and I certainly don't do it. But injecting rational economic pressures into what is the largest single market in our economy is not a bad thing.
tire rotation, oil changes, or maintenance related repairs, so why does
health insurance?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 16, 2016 09:13 AM (7ZVPa)
It's a flawed analogy, because auto insurance doesn't cover non-maintenance-related repairs either.
But the overall point is valid. If we can return to a system that allowed people to see the actual costs, they would be able to make more rational decisions.
I realize that comparison shopping for a physician is not always the best way to get good care, and I certainly don't do it. But injecting rational economic pressures into what is the largest single market in our economy is not a bad thing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 09:20 AM (Zu3d9)
156
Well it does make sense to cover "Well Care"- check-ups and basics. Not only does it cut down on bigger bills and treatment down the line, but it is actually cost effective in the long run.
--
Two of my previous employers subsidized annual checkups with blood tests, paying about half the cost, and me paying the other half monthly, separate from my insurance coverage. That was reasonable.
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Two of my previous employers subsidized annual checkups with blood tests, paying about half the cost, and me paying the other half monthly, separate from my insurance coverage. That was reasonable.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 16, 2016 09:21 AM (7ZVPa)
157
I ask you...
After the muzzies went all splodey and shit, was it really a surprise to anyone that the Catholics wouldn't be far behind?
After the muzzies went all splodey and shit, was it really a surprise to anyone that the Catholics wouldn't be far behind?
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:21 AM (4ng05)
158
If you want something to cost more, subsidize it. You'd think we might have learned that by now.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2016 09:14 AM (/tuJf
Our betters have. They want to enslave us so we are nothing but government benefit addicts. I'm guessing 50% of this country can't figure this out nor have brains enough to come in out of the rain.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2016 09:14 AM (/tuJf
Our betters have. They want to enslave us so we are nothing but government benefit addicts. I'm guessing 50% of this country can't figure this out nor have brains enough to come in out of the rain.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 16, 2016 09:22 AM (voOPb)
159
After the muzzies went all splodey and shit, was it really a surprise to anyone that the Catholics wouldn't be far behind?Posted by: Mr Macca Bean
Facts not in evidence. Police have suspicions it was a 'hit for hire'.
Facts not in evidence. Police have suspicions it was a 'hit for hire'.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:23 AM (ZnIt3)
160
157 I ask you...
After the muzzies went all splodey and shit, was it really a surprise to anyone that the Catholics wouldn't be far behind?
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:21 AM (4ng05
Hundreds of years of No Meat Fridays can do that!!!
Viva La Jello Salad
Posted by: Some Lutheran
After the muzzies went all splodey and shit, was it really a surprise to anyone that the Catholics wouldn't be far behind?
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:21 AM (4ng05
Hundreds of years of No Meat Fridays can do that!!!
Viva La Jello Salad
Posted by: Some Lutheran
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 16, 2016 09:23 AM (voOPb)
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:25 AM (ZnIt3)
162
Well Care"- check-ups and basics. Not only does it cut down on bigger bills and treatment down the line, but it is actually cost effective in the long run.
*****
I think that premise is unproven. Even if "preventive care" (actually more frequently takes the form of "early detection") were to prevent X% of say, breast cancer, those patients could easily go on to develop say, heart disease 10 years down the road. Or survive long enough to need long-term skilled nursing care. May merely defer monetary spending, not eliminate it.
*****
I think that premise is unproven. Even if "preventive care" (actually more frequently takes the form of "early detection") were to prevent X% of say, breast cancer, those patients could easily go on to develop say, heart disease 10 years down the road. Or survive long enough to need long-term skilled nursing care. May merely defer monetary spending, not eliminate it.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 09:25 AM (wPiJc)
163
Hard to believe such stupidity could exist in the private sector.
I think in the run-up to Obamacare the Very Big Insurance Companies of America were assured the were cool kids, gonna be eating at the cool kids table and going to the cool kids parties.
Didn't quite work out that way.
IOW, greed overtakes common sense like Usain Bolt in the 100m.
I think in the run-up to Obamacare the Very Big Insurance Companies of America were assured the were cool kids, gonna be eating at the cool kids table and going to the cool kids parties.
Didn't quite work out that way.
IOW, greed overtakes common sense like Usain Bolt in the 100m.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 16, 2016 09:25 AM (SeD0w)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 16, 2016 09:26 AM (oAY8z)
165
24 Biden and Cankles on the same stage. That's about 70 combined years in Washington, with no achievements between them.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
You had right up until you typed Washington; I was thinking PMITA prison instead.
*actually, Biden, though an utter and complete dirtbag asshole, doesn't seem to be much of a crook, as his reported assets are on the way low side for someone feeding at the DC trough for 40+ years*
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
You had right up until you typed Washington; I was thinking PMITA prison instead.
*actually, Biden, though an utter and complete dirtbag asshole, doesn't seem to be much of a crook, as his reported assets are on the way low side for someone feeding at the DC trough for 40+ years*
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2016 09:26 AM (gyKtp)
166
Facts not in evidence. Police have suspicions it was a 'hit for hire'.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:23 AM (ZnIt3)
We all know - in our hearts... Catholics. Why can't we just admit it?
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:23 AM (ZnIt3)
We all know - in our hearts... Catholics. Why can't we just admit it?
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:26 AM (4ng05)
167
At the debates Hillary will stagger around faking a heart attack like I did on Sanford and Son. Big dummy Trump will look like a bully for upsetting her. 'I'm coming Sir Edmund!'
Posted by: Redd Foxx at August 16, 2016 09:26 AM (gwG9s)
168
Well, this is good news. The aunt of the thug who killed the GA police officer, was caught in FL, hiding in the trunk of his sister's car.
Yute's aunt sez he is "a good person," and his arrest was "a plum shock."
And, "If he did that, I'm pretty sure he's sorry."
In other words, he was just starting to turn his life around, until that young officer got in his way.
Yute's aunt sez he is "a good person," and his arrest was "a plum shock."
And, "If he did that, I'm pretty sure he's sorry."
In other words, he was just starting to turn his life around, until that young officer got in his way.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2016 09:26 AM (1ZOkK)
Posted by: V the K at August 16, 2016 09:26 AM (O7MnT)
170
I once wrote an op-ed piece for our local rag, entitled "Die Sooner- Save Money" in reference to PPACA.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 09:27 AM (wPiJc)
171
*actually, Biden, though an utter and complete
dirtbag asshole, doesn't seem to be much of a crook, as his reported
assets are on the way low side for someone feeding at the DC trough for
40+ years*
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2016 09:26 AM (gyKtp)
Proving, once again, his incompetence. Can't even grift right.
dirtbag asshole, doesn't seem to be much of a crook, as his reported
assets are on the way low side for someone feeding at the DC trough for
40+ years*
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2016 09:26 AM (gyKtp)
Proving, once again, his incompetence. Can't even grift right.
Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2016 09:28 AM (Enq6K)
172
That first sentence made no sense (16. THUG was caught hiding in trunk of sister's car. *eyeballs full cup of coffee*
. THUG was caught hiding in trunk of sister's car. *eyeballs full cup of coffee*Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2016 09:28 AM (1ZOkK)
173
171 *actually, Biden, though an utter and complete
dirtbag asshole, doesn't seem to be much of a crook, as his reported
assets are on the way low side for someone feeding at the DC trough for
40+ years*
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2016 09:26 AM (gyKtp)
Proving, once again, his incompetence. Can't even grift right.
Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2016 09:28 AM (Enq6K)
Couldn't this also mean that he's good at hiding stuff?
dirtbag asshole, doesn't seem to be much of a crook, as his reported
assets are on the way low side for someone feeding at the DC trough for
40+ years*
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2016 09:26 AM (gyKtp)
Proving, once again, his incompetence. Can't even grift right.
Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2016 09:28 AM (Enq6K)
Couldn't this also mean that he's good at hiding stuff?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 16, 2016 09:29 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:29 AM (HGtd0)
175
'Nightly Show' Canceled; Larry Wilmore "Saddened" by "Unblackening" at Comedy Central
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Isn't The Daily Show hosted by a black guy now?
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Isn't The Daily Show hosted by a black guy now?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 16, 2016 09:29 AM (/CXhS)
176
The class of 2020 is entering high school this year.
Let the horrible puns about 'Vision' begin.
Let the horrible puns about 'Vision' begin.
Posted by: V the K at August 16, 2016 09:29 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 09:30 AM (+wjl1)
178
Couldn't this also mean that he's good at hiding stuff?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 16, 2016 09:29 AM (KUaJL)
Possible...but not probable.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 16, 2016 09:29 AM (KUaJL)
Possible...but not probable.
Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2016 09:31 AM (Enq6K)
179
172 That first sentence made no sense (16. THUG was caught hiding in trunk of sister's car. *eyeballs full cup of coffee*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2016 09:28 AM (1ZOkK)
Just because that sentenced reminded me of this...
'Impractical Jokers - Sal gets kidnapped'
http://tinyurl.com/gogop2w
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2016 09:28 AM (1ZOkK)
Just because that sentenced reminded me of this...
'Impractical Jokers - Sal gets kidnapped'
http://tinyurl.com/gogop2w
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 16, 2016 09:31 AM (/CXhS)
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>>I once wrote an op-ed piece for our local rag, entitled "Die Sooner- Save Money" in reference to PPACA.
Me likey!!
Me likey!!
Posted by: Ezekiel Emanuel at August 16, 2016 09:31 AM (NOIQH)
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Doesn't take much to get the Catholic hate started around here, does it?
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:29 AM (HGtd0)
It's for the children.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:29 AM (HGtd0)
It's for the children.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:31 AM (4ng05)
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I think that premise is unproven. Even if "preventive care" (actually more frequently takes the form of "early detection") were to prevent X% of say, breast cancer, those patients could easily go on to develop say, heart disease 10 years down the road. Or survive long enough to need long-term skilled nursing care. May merely defer monetary spending, not eliminate it.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 09:25 AM (wPiJc)
Not sure that is true. HBP caught early can prevent a premature stroke of MI and That reduces cost. Same with various forms of Cancer. Same with Diabetes. And on and on
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 09:25 AM (wPiJc)
Not sure that is true. HBP caught early can prevent a premature stroke of MI and That reduces cost. Same with various forms of Cancer. Same with Diabetes. And on and on
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:31 AM (zp+j1)
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Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:29 AM (HGtd0)
All I see are jokes....
Did I miss something?
All I see are jokes....
Did I miss something?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 09:32 AM (Zu3d9)
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Doesn't take much to get the Catholic hate started around here, does it? Posted by: naturalfake
A story from the NY Post. Who took time out from printing pictures of the future Flotus to make a scurrilous charge which damages Donald Trump. Surprised?
A story from the NY Post. Who took time out from printing pictures of the future Flotus to make a scurrilous charge which damages Donald Trump. Surprised?
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:32 AM (ZnIt3)
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Beady-eyed Chris Cuomo was once again praising hijab-wearing Joo/Israel hating fencing bitch.
Thanks, CNN.
Thanks, CNN.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2016 09:32 AM (1ZOkK)
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Government insurance sucks, it's called Tricare, it's the reason I went back to work after I retired. So I could have insurance.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 16, 2016 09:32 AM (jsWA8)
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Just because that sentenced reminded me of this...
'Impractical Jokers - Sal gets kidnapped'
http://tinyurl.com/gogop2w
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 16, 2016 09:31 AM (/CXhS)
I thought I was the only one here who likes that show.
'Impractical Jokers - Sal gets kidnapped'
http://tinyurl.com/gogop2w
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 16, 2016 09:31 AM (/CXhS)
I thought I was the only one here who likes that show.
Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2016 09:32 AM (7HtZB)
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That's some slow-as$ muslim backlash they got workiin' there.
9/11 was a long time after the crusades.
That's some slow-as$ muslim backlash they got workiin' there.
9/11 was a long time after the crusades.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 16, 2016 09:33 AM (IqV8l)
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Just catching up - been on the treadmill...
"Do you have a source to cite for these numbers? "
I used to, back when I was stomping through the halls of congress with Jack Kemp when we were fighting Hillarycare in the '90s.
Remember, I'm the guy who insists that we institute Death Panels, and government paid catastrophic is the best path to that end.
Here's another unsupported statistic - over 50% of the healthcare dollars spent in the U.S. are for seniors in their last 10 days of life.
Of course, the screaming will start by advocating some limits on what the taxpayer will pay for, I'm all for marching anyone over 35 to the gas chamber.
Not really.
However, I do believe there are age and condition based guidelines that should prevent a 90 year old with a failing heart and liver from getting a hip replacement.
"Do you have a source to cite for these numbers? "
I used to, back when I was stomping through the halls of congress with Jack Kemp when we were fighting Hillarycare in the '90s.
Remember, I'm the guy who insists that we institute Death Panels, and government paid catastrophic is the best path to that end.
Here's another unsupported statistic - over 50% of the healthcare dollars spent in the U.S. are for seniors in their last 10 days of life.
Of course, the screaming will start by advocating some limits on what the taxpayer will pay for, I'm all for marching anyone over 35 to the gas chamber.
Not really.
However, I do believe there are age and condition based guidelines that should prevent a 90 year old with a failing heart and liver from getting a hip replacement.
Posted by: jwest at August 16, 2016 09:33 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2016 09:34 AM (tIja6)
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>>Doesn't take much to get the Catholic hate started around here, does it?
>>I blame the Joos.
Or is it.....the Illuminati!!!
Or Opus Dei?
Some dial up Professor Robert Langdon!
>>I blame the Joos.
Or is it.....the Illuminati!!!
Or Opus Dei?
Some dial up Professor Robert Langdon!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2016 09:34 AM (NOIQH)
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Not sure that is true. HBP caught early can prevent a premature stroke of MI and That reduces cost. Same with various forms of Cancer. Same with Diabetes. And on and on
Posted by: Nevergiveup
*****
I'm not sure it's true either.
But just because early detection of HBP and prevention of a stroke can decrease the eventual monetary outlay for treatment of stroke in that individual, I'm not sure it decreases their lifetime spending on healthcare in its entirety.
I don't think that analysis has been done.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
*****
I'm not sure it's true either.
But just because early detection of HBP and prevention of a stroke can decrease the eventual monetary outlay for treatment of stroke in that individual, I'm not sure it decreases their lifetime spending on healthcare in its entirety.
I don't think that analysis has been done.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 09:34 AM (wPiJc)
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I thought I was the only one here who likes that show.
Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2016 09:32 AM (7HtZB)
Only thing I really watch. And they have been having marathons of it lately. Love that show.
Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2016 09:32 AM (7HtZB)
Only thing I really watch. And they have been having marathons of it lately. Love that show.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 16, 2016 09:34 AM (/CXhS)
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At last! The Barry and Mooch love story has been made!
I was attempting to chillax last night, watching everything non-news, when the trailer for "Southside With You" came on.
It's everything you'd expect it to be, minus Barry's bathhouse days, I guess.
I was attempting to chillax last night, watching everything non-news, when the trailer for "Southside With You" came on.
It's everything you'd expect it to be, minus Barry's bathhouse days, I guess.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2016 09:35 AM (1ZOkK)
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Or is it.....the Illuminati!!!
Or Opus Dei?
Some dial up Professor Robert Langdon!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2016 09:34 AM (NOIQH)
Papists. Pretty sure. They hate Catholics. (That's the rumor)
Or Opus Dei?
Some dial up Professor Robert Langdon!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2016 09:34 AM (NOIQH)
Papists. Pretty sure. They hate Catholics. (That's the rumor)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:35 AM (4ng05)
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And if government medical is so groovy, why does the VA suck more than Sandra Fluke.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 16, 2016 09:36 AM (jsWA8)
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>>However, I do believe there are age and condition
based guidelines that should prevent a 90 year old with a failing heart
and liver from getting a hip replacement. Posted by: jwest at August 16, 2016 09:33 AM (Zs4uk)
Hard to be a Logan's Run runner with a wrecked hip. Bob, work up some figures on how much we'd save in addition to sparing the cost of a new hip by nexting some oldster...
based guidelines that should prevent a 90 year old with a failing heart
and liver from getting a hip replacement. Posted by: jwest at August 16, 2016 09:33 AM (Zs4uk)
Hard to be a Logan's Run runner with a wrecked hip. Bob, work up some figures on how much we'd save in addition to sparing the cost of a new hip by nexting some oldster...
Posted by: General Zod at August 16, 2016 09:36 AM (Bdeb0)
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193 I thought I was the only one here who likes that show.
Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2016 09:32 AM (7HtZB)
Only thing I really watch. And they have been having marathons of it lately. Love that show.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 16, 2016 09:34 AM (/CXhS)
I want to see them live, but the cheap seats to their shows are even more expensive than the cheap seats for the G&R reunion show!
Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2016 09:32 AM (7HtZB)
Only thing I really watch. And they have been having marathons of it lately. Love that show.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 16, 2016 09:34 AM (/CXhS)
I want to see them live, but the cheap seats to their shows are even more expensive than the cheap seats for the G&R reunion show!
Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2016 09:36 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2016 09:36 AM (6t8+a)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 16, 2016 09:36 AM (uz/Pv)
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Mornin' Horde. Looks like someone freshened the Hell up a touch this morning, or at least sprayed some Fabreze or something on it.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 16, 2016 09:37 AM (9krrF)
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So, it's...Papey Tuesday!
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2016 09:37 AM (tIja6)
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I don't think that analysis has been done.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 09:34 AM (wPiJc)
One of the difficulties I have with strict economic analysis of healthcare is that in some circumstances there is no alternate use for the expenditure.
Most people, when faced with a serious or life-threatening medical issue will not sit down at the kitchen table and discuss whether they can put off the colonic resection for a year so they can buy that really big flat-screen TV they have always wanted.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 09:34 AM (wPiJc)
One of the difficulties I have with strict economic analysis of healthcare is that in some circumstances there is no alternate use for the expenditure.
Most people, when faced with a serious or life-threatening medical issue will not sit down at the kitchen table and discuss whether they can put off the colonic resection for a year so they can buy that really big flat-screen TV they have always wanted.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 09:38 AM (Zu3d9)
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Mornin' Horde. Looks like someone freshened the Hell up a touch this morning, or at least sprayed some Fabreze or something on it.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 16, 2016 09:37 AM (9krrF)
Nope. It's just the new 'Lemon Scented Burning Sulphur'.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 16, 2016 09:37 AM (9krrF)
Nope. It's just the new 'Lemon Scented Burning Sulphur'.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:38 AM (4ng05)
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Someone has already mentioned this, yes?
http://via.wtvr.com/ya4uL
At least it was wearing a diaper. That's better than what you usually get in San Fransisco.
http://via.wtvr.com/ya4uL
At least it was wearing a diaper. That's better than what you usually get in San Fransisco.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 16, 2016 09:38 AM (9krrF)
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I want to see them live, but the cheap seats to their shows are even more expensive than the cheap seats for the G&R reunion show!
Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2016 09:36 AM (7HtZB)
Sis in Law's sister saw them last year and had a blast.
Those guys have balls of steel.
Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2016 09:36 AM (7HtZB)
Sis in Law's sister saw them last year and had a blast.
Those guys have balls of steel.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 16, 2016 09:39 AM (/CXhS)
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*actually, Biden, though an utter and complete
dirtbag asshole, doesn't seem to be much of a crook, as his reported
assets are on the way low side for someone feeding at the DC trough for
40+ years*
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2016 09:26 AM (gyKtp)
Proving, once again, his incompetence. Can't even grift right.
Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2016 09:28 AM (Enq6K)=====
Check out his kids and grandkids for net worth.
*actually, Biden, though an utter and complete
dirtbag asshole, doesn't seem to be much of a crook, as his reported
assets are on the way low side for someone feeding at the DC trough for
40+ years*
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2016 09:26 AM (gyKtp)
Proving, once again, his incompetence. Can't even grift right.
Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2016 09:28 AM (Enq6K)=====
Check out his kids and grandkids for net worth.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 16, 2016 09:39 AM (MIKMs)
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let's start with Tort Reform
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:39 AM (zp+j1)
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At least it was wearing a diaper. That's better than what you usually get in a San Fransisco Walmart.
(Suggested edit)
(Suggested edit)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2016 09:40 AM (6t8+a)
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One of the difficulties I have with strict economic analysis of healthcare is that in some circumstances there is no alternate use for the expenditure.
Part of the problem is the nature of modern medicine itself. When most of the needs of people could be met by a well-trained and well-stocked village healer, that was one thing. These days, unless all that equipment and those wonder drugs drop in cost by orders of magnitude, that's not really going to be an option in many cases.
Of course then you get into WHY they cost so much. Like I say, for every "government solution" there's a problem government caused to begin with.
Part of the problem is the nature of modern medicine itself. When most of the needs of people could be met by a well-trained and well-stocked village healer, that was one thing. These days, unless all that equipment and those wonder drugs drop in cost by orders of magnitude, that's not really going to be an option in many cases.
Of course then you get into WHY they cost so much. Like I say, for every "government solution" there's a problem government caused to begin with.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 16, 2016 09:41 AM (9krrF)
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Check out his kids and grandkids for net worth.
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Helps to be married to a doctor.
/s
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Helps to be married to a doctor.
/s
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:41 AM (gmeXX)
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let's start with Tort Reform
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:39 AM (zp+j1)
Require lawyers to be first in line for the "death panels". Kill two birds...
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:39 AM (zp+j1)
Require lawyers to be first in line for the "death panels". Kill two birds...
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:41 AM (4ng05)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 09:42 AM (+wjl1)
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At least it was wearing a diaper. That's better than what you usually get in a San Fransisco Walmart.
(Suggested edit)
Point of order, it was my understanding that the operation of a Walmart in the SF area was punishable by death.
(Suggested edit)
Point of order, it was my understanding that the operation of a Walmart in the SF area was punishable by death.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 16, 2016 09:42 AM (9krrF)
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If the NY Post wrote that imam shooter was Jewish* and upset over 9/11 I'd be taking that with a huge grain of salt.
* or Buddhist, or Lutheran, or Presbyterian**, or wiccan, etc.
** maybe not surprised at Presbyterian, they hand deliver wine to each pew.
* or Buddhist, or Lutheran, or Presbyterian**, or wiccan, etc.
** maybe not surprised at Presbyterian, they hand deliver wine to each pew.
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:42 AM (ZnIt3)
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Well Care"- check-ups and basics. Not only does it cut down on bigger bills and treatment down the line, but it is actually cost effective in the long run
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For the individual, but for society at large, I'd say it actually costs more, which only matters is society is collectively paying it through the government.
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For the individual, but for society at large, I'd say it actually costs more, which only matters is society is collectively paying it through the government.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:43 AM (gmeXX)
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I'm not a hunter so help me out with the outrage over the hunter killing a bear with a spear. It seems to me that people should approve of this because under such conditions the bear has at least as much of a chance as the hunter. Or is it just the weird novelty of it?
As I commented yesterday, when Inuit and Native Americans do it, it is cultural, yet when a cracker does it, it's OMG!!
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 16, 2016 08:46 AM (7jTtI)
I think it was more the appearance of things than the kill itself.
Guy baits a "bear feeder".
Waits around literally giggling like a maniac.
Smallish bear shows up.
Guy rises to kill bear.
Bear runs away. i.e.. zero fight or danger.
Guy throws spear.
Bear dies miserably.
Guy celebrates like a retard.
No matter what that looked pretty shitty because no one eats bear, the bear posed no danger. So, it was a trophy kill done in a gruesome and painful manner for the bear by choice.
Not that I care if he hunted and killed a bear, but the optics were horrible to place on the internet.
For this to work, the guy would've needed to confront a rampaging grizzly bear tearing through a kindergarten and stand toe to toe with his spear and kill it.
Then all the celebrating...sure. You earned it pal.
But, this...kill a smallish black bear when it was afraid of you and running away?
Welcome to the Duckweed Club, jack!
As I commented yesterday, when Inuit and Native Americans do it, it is cultural, yet when a cracker does it, it's OMG!!
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 16, 2016 08:46 AM (7jTtI)
I think it was more the appearance of things than the kill itself.
Guy baits a "bear feeder".
Waits around literally giggling like a maniac.
Smallish bear shows up.
Guy rises to kill bear.
Bear runs away. i.e.. zero fight or danger.
Guy throws spear.
Bear dies miserably.
Guy celebrates like a retard.
No matter what that looked pretty shitty because no one eats bear, the bear posed no danger. So, it was a trophy kill done in a gruesome and painful manner for the bear by choice.
Not that I care if he hunted and killed a bear, but the optics were horrible to place on the internet.
For this to work, the guy would've needed to confront a rampaging grizzly bear tearing through a kindergarten and stand toe to toe with his spear and kill it.
Then all the celebrating...sure. You earned it pal.
But, this...kill a smallish black bear when it was afraid of you and running away?
Welcome to the Duckweed Club, jack!
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:43 AM (HGtd0)
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Well it does make sense to cover "Well Care"- check-ups and basics. Not only does it cut down on bigger bills and treatment down the line, but it is actually cost effective in the long run.
I thought this was pretty much disproven for medical. I think it applies to dentistry though.
I thought this was pretty much disproven for medical. I think it applies to dentistry though.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at August 16, 2016 09:43 AM (evdj2)
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One of the difficulties I have with strict economic analysis of
healthcare is that in some circumstances there is no alternate use for
the expenditure.
One of the things I found out dealing with my dads leukemia is that the promise of another 6 months to a year is always tantalizing. The reality is, for him, that it's a tough 6 months of going to the doctor twice a week.
healthcare is that in some circumstances there is no alternate use for
the expenditure.
One of the things I found out dealing with my dads leukemia is that the promise of another 6 months to a year is always tantalizing. The reality is, for him, that it's a tough 6 months of going to the doctor twice a week.
Posted by: Bruce at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (8ikIW)
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The republican nominee for governor in WA, Bill Bryant, says he won't support Trump. Fuck him.
Posted by: Thin Veneer Of Civility at August 16, 2016 09:39 AM (XzRw1)
If Trump loses, it will be in no small part, the fault of these Establishment RINOs. Yeah Trump has to assume a lot of the responsibility also, but these fucks should be hung from the highest tree
Posted by: Thin Veneer Of Civility at August 16, 2016 09:39 AM (XzRw1)
If Trump loses, it will be in no small part, the fault of these Establishment RINOs. Yeah Trump has to assume a lot of the responsibility also, but these fucks should be hung from the highest tree
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (+wjl1)
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Well it does make sense to cover "Well Care"- check-ups and basics. Not only does it cut down on bigger bills and treatment down the line, but it is actually cost effective in the long run.
I thought this was pretty much disproven for medical. I think it applies to dentistry though.
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I suspect it not true for dentistry either. Again, it applies to the individual, but not to society.
I thought this was pretty much disproven for medical. I think it applies to dentistry though.
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I suspect it not true for dentistry either. Again, it applies to the individual, but not to society.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (gmeXX)
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Point of order, it was my understanding that the operation of a Walmart in the SF area was punishable by death.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 16, 2016 09:42 AM (9krrF)
When g'ma Pelosi and Sen. Feinstein found out that Walmart also hired Dem voters, they let it slide.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 16, 2016 09:42 AM (9krrF)
When g'ma Pelosi and Sen. Feinstein found out that Walmart also hired Dem voters, they let it slide.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (4ng05)
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"Point of order, it was my understanding that the operation of a Walmart in the SF area was punishable by death."
It's possible to apply for and receive a waiver.
Depends on how large the International Foods section is.
But, I know better then to go shopping at the one in Lancaster Ohio now.
It's possible to apply for and receive a waiver.
Depends on how large the International Foods section is.
But, I know better then to go shopping at the one in Lancaster Ohio now.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2016 09:45 AM (6t8+a)
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If Trump loses, it will be in no small part, the fault of these Establishment RINOs. Yeah Trump has to assume a lot of the responsibility also, but these fucks should be hung from the highest tree
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Punks haven't shown me anything I didn't already know was there.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Punks haven't shown me anything I didn't already know was there.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 16, 2016 09:45 AM (9krrF)
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Tip your waitress!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (+wjl1)
Or tap your waitress. Give people a choice, right?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (+wjl1)
Or tap your waitress. Give people a choice, right?
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:46 AM (4ng05)
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One of the things I found out dealing with my dads
leukemia is that the promise of another 6 months to a year is always
tantalizing. The reality is, for him, that it's a tough 6 months of
going to the doctor twice a week.
Posted by: Bruce at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (8ikIW)
sorry your father, you and your family are going through this.......
leukemia is that the promise of another 6 months to a year is always
tantalizing. The reality is, for him, that it's a tough 6 months of
going to the doctor twice a week.
Posted by: Bruce at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (8ikIW)
sorry your father, you and your family are going through this.......Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at August 16, 2016 09:46 AM (0O7c5)
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I suspect it not true for dentistry either. Again, it applies to the individual, but not to society.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (gmeXX)
it's very true for Dentistry and I suspect it's also true for medicine also...The problem in quantifying either, is deciding where or what the baseline is.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (gmeXX)
it's very true for Dentistry and I suspect it's also true for medicine also...The problem in quantifying either, is deciding where or what the baseline is.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (zp+j1)
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"But, this...kill a smallish black bear when it was afraid of you and running away?
Welcome to the Duckweed Club, jack! "
This was auto-cucumber?
Please, tell me this was a case of auto-cucumber..
Welcome to the Duckweed Club, jack! "
This was auto-cucumber?
Please, tell me this was a case of auto-cucumber..
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (6t8+a)
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it's very true for Dentistry and I suspect it's also true for medicine also...The problem in quantifying either, is deciding where or what the baseline is.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (zp+j1)
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How do you know it is true for dentistry?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (zp+j1)
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How do you know it is true for dentistry?
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (gmeXX)
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But, I know better then to go shopping at the one in Lancaster Ohio now.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2016 09:45 AM (6t8+a)
The local Walmart, just over the border in NY is a shithole. Filthy, badly stocked, rude or nonexistent help.
I went to one in Southeast Ohio to stock up one of the brats for freshman year. It was like a Nordstroms, only cleaner and with more helpful clerks.
Amazing.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2016 09:45 AM (6t8+a)
The local Walmart, just over the border in NY is a shithole. Filthy, badly stocked, rude or nonexistent help.
I went to one in Southeast Ohio to stock up one of the brats for freshman year. It was like a Nordstroms, only cleaner and with more helpful clerks.
Amazing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 09:48 AM (Zu3d9)
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How do you know it is true for dentistry?
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (gmeXX)
I think he is married to a dentist.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (gmeXX)
I think he is married to a dentist.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 09:49 AM (Zu3d9)
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How do you know it is true for dentistry?
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (gmeXX)
I see and live it every day
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (gmeXX)
I see and live it every day
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:49 AM (zp+j1)
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So the first Dem ever elected as Attorney Gen. of PA. was just convicted of perjury and obstruction.
I think Hillary probably has a cabinet post all lined out for her.
I think Hillary probably has a cabinet post all lined out for her.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:50 AM (4ng05)
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"The Department of Agriculture is trying to identify the woman to find out if the monkey has been registered in Ohio."
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Registered? Another Hillary voter I suppose.
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Registered? Another Hillary voter I suppose.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 16, 2016 09:50 AM (wPiJc)
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How do you know it is true for dentistry?
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (gmeXX)
I think he is married to a dentist.
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So?
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (gmeXX)
I think he is married to a dentist.
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So?
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:50 AM (gmeXX)
237
The republican nominee for governor in WA, Bill Bryant, says he won't support Trump. Fuck him. Posted by: Thin Veneer Of Civility
Someone needs to start an #OnlyTrump* movement in the state. See how long before he does the math and changes his tune.
* punch the button for trump, don't support downticket rinos
Someone needs to start an #OnlyTrump* movement in the state. See how long before he does the math and changes his tune.
* punch the button for trump, don't support downticket rinos
Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 16, 2016 09:50 AM (ZnIt3)
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Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:29 AM (HGtd0)
All I see are jokes....
Did I miss something?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 09:32 AM (Zu3d9)
I just parachuted in and that's how I saw it.
But, if I missed context..and it was a joke-
I denounce myself.
All I see are jokes....
Did I miss something?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 09:32 AM (Zu3d9)
I just parachuted in and that's how I saw it.
But, if I missed context..and it was a joke-
I denounce myself.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:50 AM (HGtd0)
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>>227
One of the things I found out dealing with my dads
leukemia is that the promise of another 6 months to a year is always
tantalizing. The reality is, for him, that it's a tough 6 months of
going to the doctor twice a week. Posted by: Bruce at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (8ikIW)
...and the tantalizing possibility becomes even more so when you're told straightforwardly, as we were by my leukemia-stricken mother-in-law, that at 69 she wasn't ready to go. Alas. Cancer sucks.
One of the things I found out dealing with my dads
leukemia is that the promise of another 6 months to a year is always
tantalizing. The reality is, for him, that it's a tough 6 months of
going to the doctor twice a week. Posted by: Bruce at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (8ikIW)
...and the tantalizing possibility becomes even more so when you're told straightforwardly, as we were by my leukemia-stricken mother-in-law, that at 69 she wasn't ready to go. Alas. Cancer sucks.
Posted by: General Zod at August 16, 2016 09:51 AM (Bdeb0)
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"The Department of Agriculture is trying to identify the woman to find out if the monkey has been registered in Ohio."
Ah yes. 'Agriculture' includes gay outreach and monkey registration.
Which is why we can't, under any circumstances, cut their funding.
Ah yes. 'Agriculture' includes gay outreach and monkey registration.
Which is why we can't, under any circumstances, cut their funding.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 09:51 AM (+wjl1)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 16, 2016 09:51 AM (Mxs5H)
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How do you know it is true for dentistry?
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (gmeXX)
I see and live it every day
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That likely only supports what I said, for individuals, preventative care can be (not always) cheaper in the long run. But for society, preventative care for all is likely more expensive than dealing with the issues as they come.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (gmeXX)
I see and live it every day
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That likely only supports what I said, for individuals, preventative care can be (not always) cheaper in the long run. But for society, preventative care for all is likely more expensive than dealing with the issues as they come.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:51 AM (gmeXX)
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"The Department of Agriculture is trying to identify the woman to find out if the monkey has been registered in Ohio."
It's too busy singing to put anybody down.
"The Department of Agriculture is trying to identify the woman to find out if the monkey has been registered in Ohio."
It's too busy singing to put anybody down.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 16, 2016 09:52 AM (IqV8l)
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I denounce myself.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:50 AM (HGtd0)
No need....we already have.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:50 AM (HGtd0)
No need....we already have.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2016 09:52 AM (Zu3d9)
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I just didn't know if he had seen studies that makes dentistry different from other medical issues. I have seen numerous studies on the medicine side that argues that preventative care is not the collective cost savings that it is touted to be.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:52 AM (gmeXX)
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Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2016 09:47 AM (6t8+a)
Yup.
Auto-cucumber strikes again.
For some reason it hates the word "dickweed".
Yup.
Auto-cucumber strikes again.
For some reason it hates the word "dickweed".
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:53 AM (HGtd0)
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220
The republican nominee for governor in WA, Bill Bryant, says he won't support Trump. Fuck him.
Posted by: Thin Veneer Of Civility at August 16, 2016 09:39 AM (XzRw1)
If Trump loses, it will be in no small part, the fault of these
Establishment RINOs. Yeah Trump has to assume a lot of the
responsibility also, but these fucks should be hung from the highest
tree
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (zp+j1)
some #nevertrump claim that trump will or already has destroy the republican party not understanding that the GOPe already destroyed it....trump is the product of their handy work......not that they are behind him......that trump was the result of their lies to us for oh so many years.......and if cruz was the nominee.....they'd be behaving in the same way.....
The republican nominee for governor in WA, Bill Bryant, says he won't support Trump. Fuck him.
Posted by: Thin Veneer Of Civility at August 16, 2016 09:39 AM (XzRw1)
If Trump loses, it will be in no small part, the fault of these
Establishment RINOs. Yeah Trump has to assume a lot of the
responsibility also, but these fucks should be hung from the highest
tree
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 09:44 AM (zp+j1)
some #nevertrump claim that trump will or already has destroy the republican party not understanding that the GOPe already destroyed it....trump is the product of their handy work......not that they are behind him......that trump was the result of their lies to us for oh so many years.......and if cruz was the nominee.....they'd be behaving in the same way.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at August 16, 2016 09:53 AM (0O7c5)
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But, if I missed context..and it was a joke-
I denounce myself.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:50 AM (HGtd0)
If it make you feel any better, we denounce you, too.
I denounce myself.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:50 AM (HGtd0)
If it make you feel any better, we denounce you, too.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 16, 2016 09:53 AM (4ng05)
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>>monkey registration. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2016 09:51 AM (+wjl1)
If there's a way to work that phrase into a kind of hip-sounding jargon at work, I'm going to find it. "If we can't unbug this client-facing enterprise architecture, we'll have to work a monkey-registration clause into the SOW..."
If there's a way to work that phrase into a kind of hip-sounding jargon at work, I'm going to find it. "If we can't unbug this client-facing enterprise architecture, we'll have to work a monkey-registration clause into the SOW..."
Posted by: General Zod at August 16, 2016 09:53 AM (Bdeb0)
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sorry your father, you and your family are going through this.......
Posted by: phoenixgirl
I appreciate the thoughts. He passed away16 years ago. He was in remission and then almost 2 years later it came back. Tried another experimental chemo and it seemed to help. 8 months later it came back. Out of options and dad was tired of the crap.
Posted by: phoenixgirl
I appreciate the thoughts. He passed away16 years ago. He was in remission and then almost 2 years later it came back. Tried another experimental chemo and it seemed to help. 8 months later it came back. Out of options and dad was tired of the crap.
Posted by: Bruce at August 16, 2016 09:54 AM (8ikIW)
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""The Department of Agriculture is trying to identify the woman to find out if the monkey has been registered in Ohio."
Drivers license, proof of insurance and Monkey registration please.
Ma'am, do you know why I pulled you over?
Drivers license, proof of insurance and Monkey registration please.
Ma'am, do you know why I pulled you over?
Posted by: Things never said by an Ohio Cop. at August 16, 2016 09:55 AM (6t8+a)
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some #nevertrump claim that trump will or already has destroy the republican party not understanding that the GOPe already destroyed it..
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How is the GOP already destroyed? The party is doing great. Trump may damage the party - we'll have to see how the elections turn out - but the party will in with close to certainty continue to survive and have its ups and downs.
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How is the GOP already destroyed? The party is doing great. Trump may damage the party - we'll have to see how the elections turn out - but the party will in with close to certainty continue to survive and have its ups and downs.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:56 AM (gmeXX)
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The Department of Agriculture is trying to identify the woman to find out if the monkey has been registered in Ohio."
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Well, you can be sure that even if he wasn't registered, he probably voted.
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Well, you can be sure that even if he wasn't registered, he probably voted.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 16, 2016 09:56 AM (KUaJL)
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Drivers license, proof of insurance and Monkey registration please.
Ma'am, do you know why I pulled you over?
Posted by: Things never said by an Ohio Cop
Was my trunk monkey showing his ass again?
Ma'am, do you know why I pulled you over?
Posted by: Things never said by an Ohio Cop
Was my trunk monkey showing his ass again?
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 16, 2016 09:57 AM (7jTtI)
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So if a monkey is registered in one State, is there a reciprocating agreement?
Or do you have to sign up at each Walmart you go to?
Or do you have to sign up at each Walmart you go to?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2016 09:58 AM (6t8+a)
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I get that preventive care doesn't necessarily mean lower costs over the lifetime.
But in terms of value - preventive care allows the individual to lead a healthy productive life, which makes him a contributor to the economy
So one has to factor that in too.
But in terms of value - preventive care allows the individual to lead a healthy productive life, which makes him a contributor to the economy
So one has to factor that in too.
Posted by: @votermom at August 16, 2016 09:58 AM (7lVbc)
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255 So if a monkey is registered in one State, is there a reciprocating agreement?
Or do you have to sign up at each Walmart you go to?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2016 09:58 AM (6t8+a)
We clearly need common-sense monkey control.
Or do you have to sign up at each Walmart you go to?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2016 09:58 AM (6t8+a)
We clearly need common-sense monkey control.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 16, 2016 09:58 AM (RD7QR)
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A trunk monkey is definitely an assault monkey.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 16, 2016 09:59 AM (IqV8l)
259
But in terms of value - preventive care allows the individual to lead a healthy productive life, which makes him a contributor to the economy
So one has to factor that in too.
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That's a fair statement. In the end, I think most of us can agree here that it is something that should be left to the individual and not dictated by government over some cost analysis, that frankly no one can ever be certain of. Let the market decide.
So one has to factor that in too.
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That's a fair statement. In the end, I think most of us can agree here that it is something that should be left to the individual and not dictated by government over some cost analysis, that frankly no one can ever be certain of. Let the market decide.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:59 AM (gmeXX)
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That likely only supports what I said, for individuals, preventative care can be (not always) cheaper in the long run. But for society, preventative care for all is likely more expensive than dealing with the issues as they come.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:51 AM (gmeXX)
well as i said above, it fruitless to really even argue about this unless we first set a baseline and definitions of health.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 09:51 AM (gmeXX)
well as i said above, it fruitless to really even argue about this unless we first set a baseline and definitions of health.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 10:00 AM (zp+j1)
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We clearly need common-sense monkey control.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 16, 2016 09:58 AM (RD7QR)
In many cities, it's easier to get a monkey than it is to get a textbook.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 16, 2016 09:58 AM (RD7QR)
In many cities, it's easier to get a monkey than it is to get a textbook.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 16, 2016 10:00 AM (KUaJL)
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That's it, I denounce all this denouncing going on!
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 16, 2016 10:00 AM (9krrF)
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And with that I am off to treat a patient and raise her cost bases
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 16, 2016 10:00 AM (zp+j1)
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Concealed Monkey Carry.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2016 10:00 AM (/tuJf)
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Cancer does suck.
My dad was told he had at most 6 months to live. He made it to half of that. My Mom never recovered from losing him.
My dad was told he had at most 6 months to live. He made it to half of that. My Mom never recovered from losing him.
Posted by: @votermom at August 16, 2016 10:00 AM (7lVbc)
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Art thread up
Posted by: Bruce at August 16, 2016 10:01 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 16, 2016 10:01 AM (ZQfW9)
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i'm glad all the denouncing is over.
I thought I was going to be sent to Moron Re-Education Camp.
I thought I was going to be sent to Moron Re-Education Camp.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 10:01 AM (HGtd0)
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Best way to deal with an errant monkey is with a taser. You've got to shock the monkey.
Posted by: Peter Gabriel at August 16, 2016 10:02 AM (ZnIt3)
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Thank god it was only my lil' monkey that got out!!
*Pets twin miniature giraffes on lap while cheetah w/swarovski-studded collar dozes nearby*
*Pets twin miniature giraffes on lap while cheetah w/swarovski-studded collar dozes nearby*
Posted by: [redacted], monkey-owning Walmart shopper at August 16, 2016 10:02 AM (NOIQH)
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If Trump loses, it will be in no small part, the fault of these
Establishment RINOs. Yeah Trump has to assume a lot of the
responsibility also, but these fucks should be hung from the highest
tree
=========
How many Republicans came out and refused to vote for Reagan?
On one hand, that is bad.
On the other hand, that so many out-and-out Democrats are still calling themselves Republicans is worse.
Establishment RINOs. Yeah Trump has to assume a lot of the
responsibility also, but these fucks should be hung from the highest
tree
=========
How many Republicans came out and refused to vote for Reagan?
On one hand, that is bad.
On the other hand, that so many out-and-out Democrats are still calling themselves Republicans is worse.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 16, 2016 10:03 AM (77emZ)
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>>Best way to deal with an errant monkey is with a taser. You've got to shock the monkey.
Or...spank it?
Or...spank it?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2016 10:04 AM (NOIQH)
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261 >> In many cities, it's easier to get a monkey than it is to get a textbook.
Posted by: joe
Especially assault monkeys, with the thing that goes up.
Posted by: joe
Especially assault monkeys, with the thing that goes up.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2016 10:06 AM (gyKtp)
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PA Atty Gen Kane [Dem]
gets convicted on all 9 counts of leaking Grand Jury testimony to smear an opponent
http://tinyurl.com/znzjo5x
gets convicted on all 9 counts of leaking Grand Jury testimony to smear an opponent
http://tinyurl.com/znzjo5x
Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2016 10:11 AM (TQxRy)
Posted by: UGH at August 16, 2016 10:13 AM (TwnkX)
Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at August 16, 2016 10:14 AM (0O7c5)
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I'm not a hunter so help me out with the outrage over the hunter killing a bear with a spear. It seems to me that people should approve of this because under such conditions the bear has at least as much of a chance as the hunter. Or is it just the weird novelty of it?
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 16, 2016 08:40 AM (RD7QR)
Hunting bear over bait is legal in many areas. Many bears are killed with bows, a "mini spear" if you will.
Bow kills don't always go well, if you shoot high, low, etc. it may take a long time for the bear to die(or deer, or whatever). In order to get the bear in range for a good shot, baiting is used and so it was in this case.
The spear just looks more gruesome to the average person. Shooting a bear with a bow, a crossbow, or a gun , if the shot is not exactly placed, can be just as untimely as far as the bear dying.
I'm assuming the spear was a legal weapon for taking bear in this guy's area. DNR's here and in Canada regulate what weapons can be used so that a kill shot that is "humane" is more likely. Spears are probably down the list and quite in the primitive weapon category.
Bears are also hunted with dogs. You can imagine the PETA people' response to it. They have managed to get bear hunting with dogs stopped in many states and won't rest on that subject until it is illegal everywhere. Of course, their goal is to stop all hunting, followed by all pet and livestock ownership. But as good leftists, they know to eat the elephant they have to start with one bite.
Then they will fight towns etc. who hire professional shooters to rid areas of dangerous nuisance bears.
And whoever up thread said no one eats bear is wrong. I have, it's not exactly gourmet and I'm not exactly looking forward to ever eating it again. Very greasy. Many bear hunters do process the carcass and eat the meat. It's not simply a trophy kill for many bear hunters.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 16, 2016 08:40 AM (RD7QR)
Hunting bear over bait is legal in many areas. Many bears are killed with bows, a "mini spear" if you will.
Bow kills don't always go well, if you shoot high, low, etc. it may take a long time for the bear to die(or deer, or whatever). In order to get the bear in range for a good shot, baiting is used and so it was in this case.
The spear just looks more gruesome to the average person. Shooting a bear with a bow, a crossbow, or a gun , if the shot is not exactly placed, can be just as untimely as far as the bear dying.
I'm assuming the spear was a legal weapon for taking bear in this guy's area. DNR's here and in Canada regulate what weapons can be used so that a kill shot that is "humane" is more likely. Spears are probably down the list and quite in the primitive weapon category.
Bears are also hunted with dogs. You can imagine the PETA people' response to it. They have managed to get bear hunting with dogs stopped in many states and won't rest on that subject until it is illegal everywhere. Of course, their goal is to stop all hunting, followed by all pet and livestock ownership. But as good leftists, they know to eat the elephant they have to start with one bite.
Then they will fight towns etc. who hire professional shooters to rid areas of dangerous nuisance bears.
And whoever up thread said no one eats bear is wrong. I have, it's not exactly gourmet and I'm not exactly looking forward to ever eating it again. Very greasy. Many bear hunters do process the carcass and eat the meat. It's not simply a trophy kill for many bear hunters.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 16, 2016 10:18 AM (JbgDR)
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But, this...kill a smallish black bear when it was afraid of you and running away?
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:43 AM (HGtd0)
I agree that the hunter is a dick in this case.
But there must be someone out there eating bear. A few years back when I went to Weight Watchers, I had a "point guide" assigning points to all sorts of food.
They had Bear meat listed - but not smoked oysters. Smoked oysters on crackers are one of my favorite snacks. Bear meat not so much.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:43 AM (HGtd0)
I agree that the hunter is a dick in this case.
But there must be someone out there eating bear. A few years back when I went to Weight Watchers, I had a "point guide" assigning points to all sorts of food.
They had Bear meat listed - but not smoked oysters. Smoked oysters on crackers are one of my favorite snacks. Bear meat not so much.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 16, 2016 10:27 AM (u0lmX)
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SH
the party is good? i missed the memo.....
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The party hold more elected offices than at any time since the 1920's. Isn't that a sign of a party's health?
the party is good? i missed the memo.....
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The party hold more elected offices than at any time since the 1920's. Isn't that a sign of a party's health?
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2016 10:30 AM (gmeXX)
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Posted by: naturalfake at August 16, 2016 09:43 AM (HGtd0)
Central Pennsylvanians certainly do eat bear. Even Penn State students looked on winning the bear license lottery as a big deal when John studied there.
We had grown our own meat when I was a kid and it hadn't occurred to me that, if you lived in town, hunting might be *necessary* to provide meat on a tight budget and getting a bear and two deer (the women pretty much all hunted too) meant food security in a way I was completely unfamiliar with. And *not* getting them meant lack in a way I was unfamiliar with as well.
Central Pennsylvanians certainly do eat bear. Even Penn State students looked on winning the bear license lottery as a big deal when John studied there.
We had grown our own meat when I was a kid and it hadn't occurred to me that, if you lived in town, hunting might be *necessary* to provide meat on a tight budget and getting a bear and two deer (the women pretty much all hunted too) meant food security in a way I was completely unfamiliar with. And *not* getting them meant lack in a way I was unfamiliar with as well.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 16, 2016 10:41 AM (GDulk)
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Good grief that was a depressing morning dump.
Posted by: Eli Cash at August 16, 2016 10:58 AM (nRL2J)
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As I said in the ONT thread, I mentioned the threat against the 'burbs
to suburbanites yesterday. They all started laughing. "Sure, just try
it!"
Remember Katrina? Cops were confiscating weapons ... for you own protection. I recall video of a cop yelling "GUN!" and jumping a woman in her 70's because she told them "Well I got this." and shows them a 32 caliber revolver with the cylinder flip open. Once the shooting starts ... all hell will break lose. They will disarm whoever will give it up with out a fight. Then leave you and your family defenseless.
to suburbanites yesterday. They all started laughing. "Sure, just try
it!"
Remember Katrina? Cops were confiscating weapons ... for you own protection. I recall video of a cop yelling "GUN!" and jumping a woman in her 70's because she told them "Well I got this." and shows them a 32 caliber revolver with the cylinder flip open. Once the shooting starts ... all hell will break lose. They will disarm whoever will give it up with out a fight. Then leave you and your family defenseless.
Posted by: Paladin at August 16, 2016 12:47 PM (mCOPv)
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Of course Field Marshal Rodham is recruiting undocumented volunteers. Elections don't steal themselves, you know.
Posted by: Zapp Branigan at August 16, 2016 12:59 PM (pInIV)
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