Mid-Morning Open Thread [CBD]


Hopper Summe Evening 1947.jpg

Summer Evening
Edward Hopper

I like Hopper, and I don't know why. His work seems quirky at best, and often seems excessively maudlin, or maybe just moody. Wow...that sounds stupid. I think I'll just stick to, "I like Hopper."

I also like Dennis Hopper, and he was never better than in a little scene in a little movie called "True Romance." And Christopher Walken wasn't bad either....

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:50 AM




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1
Mine! All mine!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2016 09:53 AM (BK3ZS)

2 1st eggplant gets the parmesan

Posted by: DaveA at August 11, 2016 09:53 AM (8J/Te)

3
BTW, Hopper is also the name of Steven Crowder's dog.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2016 09:54 AM (BK3ZS)

4 She has sturdy, child bearing thighs. A truly Nordic ideal couple. Hi Hector!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 11, 2016 09:55 AM (SeD0w)

5 That woman has some legs on her. Yowza.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale-Skeet Surfer at August 11, 2016 09:55 AM (hVdx9)

6 I hope cum breath troll watches the movie clip.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 11, 2016 09:56 AM (SeD0w)

7
Put Out at First


He ain't getting anywhere...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2016 09:56 AM (BK3ZS)

8 Yeesh, is ANYBODY'S porch that clean? Also, I think we're witnessing the run-up to a date rape and it's not Rapey Tuesday, so I'm going to throw the illegal procedure flag.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at August 11, 2016 09:56 AM (RD7QR)

9 Oh hey. This is the same guy that did Nighthawks, that famous diner painting that you've probably seen.

I always liked the style.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 11, 2016 09:56 AM (KUaJL)

10 Woman does not look happy. Probably found out she makes less money at the steel works then her male coworkers.

Posted by: Bruce at August 11, 2016 09:56 AM (8ikIW)

11 She's goona get et by skeeters in that getup.

Posted by: Melania the beagle at August 11, 2016 09:57 AM (9wsaH)

12 He's asking her permission to proceed to the next level of intimacy. I hope he gets her to sign the release printed in the student handbook.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 11, 2016 09:57 AM (SeD0w)

13 That's her! That's the chick from Fox news that tried to spy on me. I'd recognize her anywhere.

Posted by: Brian Stetler at August 11, 2016 09:58 AM (KUaJL)

14 That woman has some legs on her. Yowza

----

Like a Robert Crumb girl

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 11, 2016 09:58 AM (k7xKb)

15 HmmH. I like me some of the french fried pertaters.
Hmmh

Posted by: Bruce at August 11, 2016 09:59 AM (8ikIW)

16 Someone's about to get lucky.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 11, 2016 10:01 AM (pUDQf)

17 Never seen this one, thanks!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2016 10:01 AM (NOIQH)

18 Art!

Nobody tell the troll where we went, 'kay?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 11, 2016 10:01 AM (9krrF)

19 Actually let's do Crumb for the next art thread LOL

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 11, 2016 10:01 AM (k7xKb)

20 Without seeing who executed the painting, I knew it had to be Hooper. he has a very distinct style.

Posted by: josephistan at August 11, 2016 10:01 AM (7HtZB)

21 True Romance. Tarantino's best work ever. Yes I know he had help.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 11, 2016 10:02 AM (uYSAz)

22
10 Woman does not look happy. Probably found out she makes less money at the steel works then her male coworkers.


Is this an evil country or what?

African Americans once were tallied at 3/5 of a white person. Women earn 3/4 of what men earn. You had better be on board with fractions if you wish to live here.

Time to s p r e a d o u t h e r e o n t h e b e n c h !

Is this a great country or what?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2016 10:02 AM (BK3ZS)

23 Notice that tiny white dot to the right of the guy's neck?

That's the sniper.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 11, 2016 10:02 AM (cPMmb)

24 Feels like a summer romance.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:02 AM (dFi94)

25 OK, just to add to the nice, some very well executed pictures of Maine Coon cats:

http://tinyurl.com/hveztjb

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 11, 2016 10:03 AM (9krrF)

26 They negotiating price?



Posted by: Tami at August 11, 2016 10:03 AM (Enq6K)

27 That girl is definitely a butterface.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 11, 2016 10:03 AM (uYSAz)

28 Bring back the tube tops!

Nothing caused more heart palpitations than the possibility of a slippage.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 11, 2016 10:03 AM (pUDQf)

29 Hopper is one of my favorite artists for all of those reasons you listed and crossed out.

Posted by: DJ at August 11, 2016 10:04 AM (+2t20)

30 >>OK, just to add to the nice, some very well executed pictures of Maine Coon cats


Those are awesome! Love how almost every cat has that same annoyed expression.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2016 10:04 AM (NOIQH)

31 Feels like a summer romance.


Posted by: grammie winger


Tell me more
Tell me more

Posted by: Bruce at August 11, 2016 10:05 AM (8ikIW)

32 That strumpet in the painting appears to be perfectly amenable to some cisherteronormative patriarchal oppression, IYKWIMAITYD...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 11, 2016 10:05 AM (kP16F)

33 Oh, I like this Hopper.

And that girl would have banged the guy, but he obviously said something very wrong.

I hate it when I do that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2016 10:05 AM (mgbwf)

34 Feels like a summer romance.
Posted by: grammie winger



Sandy!
(What movie?)

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:05 AM (b0NwW)

35 I just watched the video of that hack Lemon talking down to Bongino on Trumps Second Amendment comment. If you ever had a doubt the dishonest media isn't in the bag for Democrats there is your proof.

There isn't one modicum of truth that comes out of these people's mouths. There is no cogitative process, no intellectual discernment, no realization of the truth.

There is only Left Wing propaganda focused on electing their God Queen who can do not wrong.

Clinton is probably resoundingly the most unqualified, corrupt, under investigation by the FBI, underwhelming, unaccomplished person to ever run for president.

But you know, lets twist Trumps word to distract from that disgusting amalgam of lies and obfuscation called Clinton.

Talk about people who need a nut punch. They're beyond reasoning, the little smug, partisan hacks sporting their smirks because they know how soho eat they are.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 10:05 AM (MktOj)

36 I think my grandma painted her porch ceiling blue. The trouble with those ceiling light fixtures up there is they get all kinds of bugs and mosquitos caught in them and they're the devil to clean out all the time. Or you could just let them go. I vote for Let Them Go.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:05 AM (dFi94)

37 "It's OK baby. We'll find some way to work around the fact you have a penis."

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:05 AM (0mRoj)

38 Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 11, 2016 10:02 AM (uYSAz)

He wrote it. Tony Scott directed it (thank God!).

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2016 10:06 AM (Zu3d9)

39 32 That strumpet in the painting appears to be perfectly amenable to some cisherteronormative patriarchal oppression, IYKWIMAITYD...
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 11, 2016 10:05 AM (kP16F)

Oppressor? I hardly even touched 'er!

Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at August 11, 2016 10:06 AM (RD7QR)

40 So what's the move here, fellas? You're in the game. Ump said play ball! First base is just a few yards away.

The old "hair brushed behind her ears" move or the "you have some mustard on your chin" move?


Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 11, 2016 10:06 AM (pUDQf)

41 How do you feel about Grace Hopper, computer pioneer?

Or the Dish Network's satellite TV DVR device, the Hoppah?

Posted by: Spellcheck at August 11, 2016 10:06 AM (HKBpI)

42 Sandy!

(What movie?)

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:05 AM (b0NwW)
================================================

Is that Grease? Or am I thinking of Night Stalker?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:07 AM (dFi94)

43 Hopper only did commercials for us. We outbid Stride Rite for his services. RIP Dennis.

Posted by: NIKE at August 11, 2016 10:07 AM (gwG9s)

44 That girl is definitely a butterface

---

Gotta look for a badly drawn girl like that today, at least from what her Facebook page looks like

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 11, 2016 10:07 AM (k7xKb)

45 So, you're saying Hillary Clinton is Sicilian?

Posted by: Crossfit Addict at August 11, 2016 10:07 AM (FKWJm)

46 Tell me more
Tell me more
Posted by: Bruce



Lol. See #34.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:08 AM (b0NwW)

47 The old "hair brushed behind her ears" move or the "you have some mustard on your chin" move?




Posted by: AlaBAMA

I'm going with "C"
Oh, looks like you got a spider on you ass, let me brush that off

Posted by: Bruce at August 11, 2016 10:08 AM (8ikIW)

48 Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 10:05 AM (MktOj)

Maybe it's me, but I heard Trump's comments and, frankly, didn't see anything wrong with them.

And even taken in the most extreme biased interpretation that he's saying the 2A enables the people to rise up against tyrants, well...yeah, I think that's kind of the point. This is like getting mad at the weatherman for telling you you'll get wet if you go out into a rainstorm.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 11, 2016 10:08 AM (PFy0L)

49 Is that Grease? Or am I thinking of Night Stalker?




Grease. :-)

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:08 AM (b0NwW)

50 Actually I think this is what the dame is really doing on that hot sultry night, "I'm not listening!"

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Gold-Rush-Qingjian-Meng-4.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2016 10:09 AM (LTMJL)

51 "Geez Mary Lou. Yer old man's such a cheapskate. Why'd he have to go and hock the porch swing. This bannister is giving me splinters!"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:09 AM (wPiJc)

52
Put Out at First
He ain't getting anywhere...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot




"Ceci n'est pas une pipe."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 11, 2016 10:09 AM (kdS6q)

53 I never knew Heath Ledger was a cross dresser.

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 10:09 AM (1H9ox)

54 That looks like Heath Ledger's Joker in the hospital scene.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 11, 2016 10:10 AM (p6cXT)

55
Whoa. Jinx.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 10:10 AM (xxSK3)

56 I love Hopper's stuff.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 11, 2016 10:11 AM (u0lmX)

57 The look on her face?
She's not picking up what he's putting down.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:11 AM (b0NwW)

58 "That thing I did in your mouth? I promise I won't do that this time."

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:11 AM (0mRoj)

59 I like the way paintings like these unknowingly document a period.
The yellow glow of incandescent bulb.
The clothes.
The style of door.

Posted by: @votermom at August 11, 2016 10:11 AM (7lVbc)

60 *scrolls up and reads Bandersnatch's comment*

Same wavelength. Kowai.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (LTMJL)

61
"Ceci n'est pas une pipe."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 11, 2016 10:09 AM (kdS6q)








Ceci likes laying pipe?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (xxSK3)

62 Something I heard on the radio yesterday:

Dish Network is offering a semi- a la carte menu, where you can drop things like kids channels or sports channels if you don't watch them. This is a big shift away from the fixed-tier model they've been shoving down our throats for a long time. Not quite actual a la carte pricing, which woujld go a long way toward forcing assholes like MSNBC and ESPN toward cleaning up their act, but it's progress.

All that cord-cutting seems to be producing some results.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (v9gSJ)

63 She ain't got nothin' but, nothin' but one safety pin holdin' that thing on. Come on safety pin, POP. Come on baby, POP.

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (1H9ox)

64 "It's not you, baby, it's me. I'm Ghey."
"F*^K you Hector! I was saving myself for tonight, too!"

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (SeD0w)

65 >>I think my grandma painted her porch ceiling blue.

The porch in my childhood home was sky blue.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (NOIQH)

66 That girl's femurs are as long as her torso. That's some crazy disproportion.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (wPiJc)

67 Feels like a summer romance.
Posted by: grammie winger
----

And when the rain
Beats against my window pane
I'll think of summer days again
And dream of you

Posted by: Chad and Jeremy at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (9mTYi)

68 "Honest baby, I don't believe a word of what the other guys say around town. I just want to take a walk through the woods with you."

Posted by: Bruce at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (8ikIW)

69 Whenever I see a Hopper painting, I always think of " The Last Picture Show", not the movie especially, but rarher the book. It's an emotional, evocative thing.
Probably only me, I guess. I wonder how many people take the time to read books now, in our New Utopia?

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (d6TTt)

70 Yesterday, in Ontario, RCMP and a military anti-terrorist unit whacked a loony who called himself "Harun Abdurahman" (birth name Aaron Driver, a muzz convert), who had given indications he was about to go all splodeydope in some large city, probably Toronto.


"Harun" was all over Twitter and other on-line sites with islamist and pro-ISIS propaganda.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (oqkO3)

71 Paradise By The Porch Light

Posted by: Don't Let Your Meat Loaf at August 11, 2016 10:13 AM (zzUT1)

72 This appears to have been painted in the 1930s? That was before women had to be heroin-chic.


Love hopper, I have most of his sailing prints up and a few of his others like the "diner".

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 10:13 AM (eSQgj)

73 Lizzy, those cats do look entertainingly annoyed!

>>And even taken in the most extreme biased interpretation that he's saying the 2A enables the people to rise up against tyrants, well...yeah

I don't think that's a biased interpretation at all. When they take your guns, there's nothing you can do, well maybe there is but that would be a sad day, is basically what he said. That's not a call to kill Hillary, that's a comment on stuff that might happen. It's also not an endorsement of that stuff.

Posted by: Lea at August 11, 2016 10:13 AM (lIU4e)

74 "Why do you keep calling me Calvin?"


"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:13 AM (wPiJc)

75 Looks like a Trump rally with all that whiteness.

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 10:14 AM (1H9ox)

76
I'm not seeing the humor in this heart rending story of rejection.

Posted by: I.C Littlehans at August 11, 2016 10:14 AM (dw3S5)

77 70 Yesterday, in Ontario, RCMP and a military anti-terrorist unit whacked a loony who called himself "Harun Abdurahman" (birth name Aaron Driver, a muzz convert), who had given indications he was about to go all splodeydope in some large city, probably Toronto.


"Harun" was all over Twitter and other on-line sites with islamist and pro-ISIS propaganda.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (oqkO3)

We'll never know the motive for his actions.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:14 AM (0mRoj)

78 4Chan post claiming videos of Crooked Hillary committing treason to be released soon. See the sock link. H/T Blazing Cat Fur blog.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:14 AM (LdMbv)

79 What a great movie clip. I have never seen True Romance, but I will make it a point to see.

Hopper was great in that scene.

Loved him in Hoosiers.

Hated him in Waterworld.

Mixed on Apocalypse Now and Easy Rider, even though those were his landmark roles.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 11, 2016 10:14 AM (4AVeu)

80 I like the way paintings like these unknowingly document a period.
The yellow glow of incandescent bulb.
The clothes.
The style of door.
Posted by: @votermom
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Saddle oxfords, I think.

Posted by: Chad and Jeremy at August 11, 2016 10:14 AM (9mTYi)

81 "So that's a 'no' then is it Mary Lou? Well what about your sister? Does she put out?"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:15 AM (wPiJc)

82 Why yes I'll have sex with you. But it will cost you half.... Of everything. If you are good at something, never do it for free.

Posted by: The Joket at August 11, 2016 10:15 AM (p6cXT)

83 Her femurs are as long as her torso. That's some crazy disproportion.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM


An attempt to humerus?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2016 10:15 AM (zzUT1)

84 I see the kitteh! Bottom left, under the porch...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at August 11, 2016 10:15 AM (kP16F)

85 >>Maybe it's me, but I heard Trump's comments and, frankly, didn't see anything wrong with them. Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 11, 2016 10:08 AM (PFy0L)

Once again, the Left needs to pick a theme: Trump voters are cunning enough to intuit a very nuanced "assassination dog-whistle" in Trump's comment, and are not the gormless proles they've been portrayed as (and he's far from the one-note jackass that he's been portrayed as), or Trump voters are in fact so synaptically challenged that they shouldn't be able to get to a booth or read a ballot, much less present an concerted electoral challenge. They can't be both.

Posted by: General Zod at August 11, 2016 10:16 AM (Bdeb0)

86 70 Yesterday, in Ontario, RCMP and a military anti-terrorist unit whacked a loony who called himself "Harun Abdurahman" (birth name Aaron Driver, a muzz convert), who had given indications he was about to go all splodeydope in some large city, probably Toronto.


"Harun" was all over Twitter and other on-line sites with islamist and pro-ISIS propaganda.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM (oqkO3)

Interesting. Doesn't RCMP have its own SWAT unit? Why get a military unit involved? Maybe he was further along in his preparations than we know...

Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at August 11, 2016 10:16 AM (RD7QR)

87 4Chan post claiming videos of Crooked Hillary committing treason to be released soon. See the sock link. H/T Blazing Cat Fur blog.

I will believe it.

When I see it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 11, 2016 10:16 AM (v9gSJ)

88
Her femurs are as long as her torso. That's some crazy disproportion.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:12 AM

An attempt to humerus?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2016 10:15 AM (zzUT1)







Don't mind him, he's just trying to rib you.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 10:16 AM (xxSK3)

89 Paradise By The Porch Light
Posted by: Don't Let Your Meat Loaf
-----------

*guffaws*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:16 AM (9mTYi)

90 The sniper in the painting is the girl's step -father, and he doesn't need a scope because he's at the window to the left....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 10:17 AM (SIwLd)

91 An attempt to humerus?


You're just trying tibia buzzkill.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2016 10:17 AM (mgbwf)

92 I know that girl! It's Carmen Veranda.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:17 AM (wPiJc)

93 With noses like that, they've got to be brother and sister.

Posted by: Fritz at August 11, 2016 10:17 AM (2Mnv1)

94 We have all of Hopper's Roswell paintings. Edward and Dennis. Top men are studying them. Top. Men.

Posted by: Smithsonian at August 11, 2016 10:17 AM (qlPzn)

95 That's not a very humerus observation, Dr Muldoon.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:17 AM (LdMbv)

96 >>Feels like a summer romance.


As long as it isn't an Endless Love (and there are stacks of newspapers on the other end of the porch).

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2016 10:17 AM (NOIQH)

97 78
4Chan post claiming videos of Crooked Hillary committing treason to be
released soon. See the sock link. H/T Blazing Cat Fur blog.


========

I'd be shocked if the source mentioned here is true.


According to a 4chan post from an anonymous source who appears to have inside knowledge of the coming leaks, hackers have obtained personal videos of Hillary Clinton that will reveal "the real Hillary." The source of the leak is reportedly Clinton's closest aide, Huma Abedin.

Posted by: Tami at August 11, 2016 10:18 AM (Enq6K)

98
Ceci likes laying pipe?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur



The phrase "Ceci n'est pas une pipe." is of course from Rene Magritte's painting The Treachery of Images. However, "Pipe" is also a French slang term for a BJ.

Actually went hypercube with that one.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 11, 2016 10:18 AM (kdS6q)

99 The disturbing part of this painting is that the girl looks just like the guy in drag.

So either they're brother and sister, or it's some weird Norman Bates talks to his tranny alter ego thing.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 11, 2016 10:18 AM (v9gSJ)

100 78 4Chan post claiming videos of Crooked Hillary committing treason to be released soon. See the sock link. H/T Blazing Cat Fur blog.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:14 AM (LdMbv)

Eh. Love ya' Andy but 4chan is the home of anon, and they love to troll.

Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at August 11, 2016 10:18 AM (RD7QR)

101 Hopper in Blue Velvet, nitrous huffing, shouting, 'don't f@*king look at me'. It just seemed as if he wasn't acting at all.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 11, 2016 10:18 AM (ZnIt3)

102 I miss porches. Porches on the front of a house are way better than decks out back.
With porches out front, if people do actually go outside their home (the percentage of whom do dismays me, even in my green leafy family oriented suburb...my family and I are rarely in the house during good weather...eat outside, the kids play outside, boink the missus outside...but we are the exception) they actually get to see and know their neighbors. With the deck out the back, people are still walled off from their neighborhood.

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 10:19 AM (1H9ox)

103 "I'm sorry Johnny. You're a nice guy and all, but Biff's dad owns the steel mill and he has a brand new hot rod."

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:19 AM (0mRoj)

104 Interesting. Doesn't RCMP have its own SWAT unit? Why get a military unit involved? Maybe he was further along in his preparations than we know...

Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at August 11, 2016 10:16 AM (RD7QR)


I guess they had word that a suicide-bomb mission was imminent.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2016 10:19 AM (oqkO3)

105 An attempt to humerus?
Posted by: Duncanthrax

Go ahead, Duncanthrax! Bone my #95 comment why don't you.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:19 AM (LdMbv)

106 I shall rename this painting-

American Gothic: The Early Years

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:20 AM (wPiJc)

107 Hopper's painting are very cinematic and they do look like stills from movie scenes. But it's something like a chicken and egg thing. Was Hopper inspired by films? Or have so many movies been inspired by Hopper's paintings.
I think it's both---but more the latter.

Btw, Dennis Hopper was also an artist and a damn good photographer.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 10:20 AM (SIwLd)

108 According to a 4chan post from an anonymous source who appears to have inside knowledge of the coming leaks, hackers have obtained personal videos of Hillary Clinton that will reveal "the real Hillary." The source of the leak is reportedly Clinton's closest aide, Huma Abedin.
Posted by: Tami at August 11, 2016 10:18 AM (Enq6K)

That doesn't make any sense. Aside from Bill and Shrillary, Huma has the most the lose in possible legal action.

Posted by: Brian Stetler at August 11, 2016 10:20 AM (KUaJL)

109 She crushes walnuts with those thighs when she's not busy springing her man trap on unsuspecting suitors.


Today's word is pekan, aka the fisher cat. It's found mostly in Canada and the extreme northeast and northwest US.

Aaaaaand, it's some sort of a weasel.

No, really!; it's not a feline at all but it kinda looks like one.

(h/t to an old Max Brand novel I'm reading)

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 11, 2016 10:20 AM (gyKtp)

110 Muldoon, you are a pediatric doc are you not?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:20 AM (0mRoj)

111 Gee whiz, Betty! Veronica does butt stuff!

Posted by: Archie Andrews at August 11, 2016 10:21 AM (v9gSJ)

112 "Can I put my tongue in your mouth?"

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:21 AM (BqKyT)

113 Don't mind him, he's just trying to rib you.




Someone is fibian.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:21 AM (b0NwW)

114 Rene Magritte's painting The Treachery of Images


Oh, that's interesting. I didn't know that.

I was thinking about "Ceci n'est pas un viol" (this is not a rape), which was mattress girl Sulkowiz's porn flick.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2016 10:21 AM (mgbwf)

115 Uh oh, Michelle Fields caught plagiarizing:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jlfgfnu

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2016 10:22 AM (NOIQH)

116 Or perhaps this by Sorayama Hajime might be worthy of a post. Two starlets and an F-82 Twin Mustang.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/johfe6c

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2016 10:22 AM (LTMJL)

117 "Butt stuff doesn't count. Tommy told me, and his dad is a pastor."

Posted by: Brian Stetler at August 11, 2016 10:22 AM (KUaJL)

118 Did not know there was a National Porch Shortage. Everybody has a porch where I live. No domicile is without one.
Course we are all Tribal Neanderthals that live in Flyover Country.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 10:22 AM (d6TTt)

119 Huma being the source could mean 'hacked from Huma's computer,' but I still will believe the story when I see it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 11, 2016 10:22 AM (v9gSJ)

120
I was thinking about "Ceci n'est pas un viol" (this is not a rape), which was mattress girl Sulkowiz's porn flick.


Which pretty much confirms that she's an attention whore who's a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:22 AM (0mRoj)

121 Off sock

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 11, 2016 10:22 AM (KUaJL)

122 Uh oh, Michelle Fields caught plagiarizing:

Things got out of hand.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 11, 2016 10:22 AM (v9gSJ)

123
Early Evening At The Clutter Ranch, November 15, 1959

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:23 AM (9mTYi)

124 Still waiting on those en masse resignations from the FBI because of Hillary's non-indictment.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:23 AM (BqKyT)

125 I miss porches. Porches on the front of a house are way better than decks out back.
With porches out front, if people do actually go outside their home (the percentage of whom do dismays me, even in my green leafy family oriented suburb...my family and I are rarely in the house during good weather...eat outside, the kids play outside, boink the missus outside...but we are the exception) they actually get to see and know their neighbors.



Lucky you. Tuesday night at 10:42 pm it was still 92 degrees with a 0 mph breeze.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:23 AM (b0NwW)

126 know that girl! It's Carmen Veranda.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:17 AM


Could be Ulna Thurman ...

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2016 10:23 AM (zzUT1)

127 That doesn't make any sense. Aside from Bill and Shrillary, Huma has the most the lose in possible legal action.

Posted by: Brian Stetler at August 11, 2016 10:20 AM (KUaJL)


Unless Huma figures the whole enterprise is about to go tits-up, and wants to position herself as a whistle-blower?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2016 10:23 AM (oqkO3)

128 116 Or perhaps this by Sorayama Hajime might be worthy of a post. Two starlets and an F-82 Twin Mustang.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/johfe6c
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2016 10:22 AM (LTMJL)

Just FYI that link sent me to pop up and redirect hell.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:23 AM (0mRoj)

129 That doesn't make any sense. Aside from Bill and Shrillary, Huma has the most the lose in possible legal action.

Posted by: Brian Stetler at August 11, 2016 10:20 AM (KUaJL)

Yeah, I agree....that's why the claim is dubious.

Posted by: Tami at August 11, 2016 10:23 AM (Enq6K)

130 There isn't anything wrong with Trump's 2A comment. The media/hysterical progs are like some old lady with dementia who confuses every electrical cord with a cobra.


They're the deranged ones. I would think they would get tired of pissing down their legs, but apparently, the virtue signaling in the echo chamber is sexually stimulating for them.

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 10:23 AM (eSQgj)

131 Muldoon, you are a pediatric doc are you not?


****


Not to the same extent as Chelsea Clinton. Why do you ask?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:24 AM (wPiJc)

132 "Yeah, we don't need to go inside or nuthin'. Maybe we could just make out here on the porch? I dunno. Just thinkin' off the top of my head here. Do you like makin' out? I know I do. Gosh, you're pretty. Even if you do have a face that looks like a skull. Say, you aren't supposed to be "death" or anything like that, are you?"

Posted by: That guy in the painting at August 11, 2016 10:24 AM (k0G44)

133 Uh oh, Michelle Fields caught plagiarizing:

How do we know this? Did someone strong-arm her into confessing?

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:24 AM (BqKyT)

134 Girl: "I'm pregnant."

Guy with money and trustfund "Well, I'm sterile so please explain."

*Girl clintches jaw and gnashes teeth*

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 11, 2016 10:24 AM (p6cXT)

135 Uh oh, Michelle Fields caught plagiarizing:

Things got out of hand.




She needs to be kept at arms length.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:24 AM (b0NwW)

136 123,
yes.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 10:24 AM (SIwLd)

137 I didn't know we needed New York Times standards of fact-checking to link-comment here.

Except I am using NYT standards doing this.

Now I'm confused.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:24 AM (LdMbv)

138 2 Forms of Art today.

Charles must be happy or something.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 11, 2016 10:24 AM (voOPb)

139 119 Huma being the source could mean 'hacked from Huma's computer,' but I still will believe the story when I see it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 11, 2016 10:22 AM (v9gSJ)

That would make more sense. Still in the "too good to be true, so it probably isn't." camp until proven otherwise.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 11, 2016 10:25 AM (KUaJL)

140 "Ceci n'est pas un viol"
-----------

Damn, my French is rusty. I would have guessed that as 'Ceci is not a stringed instrument'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:25 AM (oFSUK)

141 Porche's are from a by gone era. An era where PC was unheard of, were Patriotism was still OK, and America meant something. I miss it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 11, 2016 10:25 AM (zp+j1)

142 Evening At The Clutter Ranch, November 15, 1959
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:23 AM (9mTYi)

Heh. Wonder if anyone in our Postmodern generation would get the reference?

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 10:25 AM (d6TTt)

143 Hey, man, you don't talk to the Colonel. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll... uh... well, you'll say "hello" to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you. He won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say, "Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you"... I mean I'm... no, I can't... I'm a little man, I'm a little man, he's... he's a great man! I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas.

Posted by: Dennis Hopper at August 11, 2016 10:25 AM (mgbwf)

144 112 "Can I put my tongue in your mouth?"
____________________

Not if something else is already in there.

Posted by: Dirty Porch Whore at August 11, 2016 10:25 AM (4AVeu)

145 know that girl! It's Carmen Veranda.


Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:17 AM


Nope.

Porcha De Rossi.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2016 10:25 AM (Zu3d9)

146
That doesn't make any sense. Aside from Bill and Shrillary, Huma has the most the lose in possible legal action.

Posted by: Brian Stetler at August 11, 2016 10:20 AM (KUaJL)





One might argue that she sees the writing on the wall and is trying to cut a deal, with the public at least.

Doesn't hold much water though. Huma's nothing without her association with Frau Gruppencankles. Look at her resume, she has even less of a work history than JugEars and his wife.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 10:25 AM (xxSK3)

147 Avenge me!!!

Posted by: anthony weiner at August 11, 2016 10:25 AM (LdMbv)

148 "Pregnant? How could you be pregnant? Doncha believe in birth control?"

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:26 AM (BqKyT)

149 Not to the same extent as Chelsea Clinton. Why do you ask?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:24 AM (wPiJc)

I have a general information question that I'd like to ask you, offline preferably, to the extent that you're comfortable with same.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:26 AM (0mRoj)

150 Ironic that Michelle Fields lacked proper footnotes.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 11, 2016 10:26 AM (v9gSJ)

151 Dem's are trying to divide and conquer the Second Amendment vote. People who truly understand what's going on wont vote for The Hag anyway. It's the "I'm a gun owner and nobody needs an AW" idiots they are trying to target.

They don't realize what these people are capable of and what their goals are. They are giving up on the real meaning of the Second Amendment because they are too foolish and afraid to fight this constitutional subterfuge.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 10:26 AM (MktOj)

152 Dennis Hopper as "Feck" in River's Edge is basically a rough draft of Frank Booth from Blue Velvet. Both movies came out about the same time, I guess that was his go-to character type in the Eighties.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 11, 2016 10:26 AM (2cS/G)

153 Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 10:22 AM (d6TTt)

No porches in the DC metro. Of course, here you really don't want to "know" your neighbors. Yikes.

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 10:27 AM (eSQgj)

154 140 "Ceci n'est pas un viol"
-----------

Damn, my French is rusty. I would have guessed that as 'Ceci is not a stringed instrument'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:25 AM (oFSUK)

"This is not a rape"

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:27 AM (0mRoj)

155 "Do it on the porch? What makes you think I would stoop so low?"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:27 AM (wPiJc)

156 Did not know there was a National Porch Shortage.
...
I have lived all throughout the upper midwest. It seems as though home builders stopped building porches somewhere around the mid 70s and only recently (less than 10 years) started reincorporating them.
The other thing that came into fashion that grinds my aesthetic gears is how, for much of the same period, the garage is the most prominent part of the home and the view of it from the street. Many homes built during this period look like a garage with a house attached in the back.

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 10:27 AM (1H9ox)

157 Very Americana.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2016 10:27 AM (r65B3)

158 One might argue that she sees the writing on the wall and is trying to cut a deal, with the public at least.

Doesn't hold much water though. Huma's nothing without her association with Frau Gruppencankles. Look at her resume, she has even less of a work history than JugEars and his wife.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 10:25 AM (xxSK3)

Even if she were trying to get out, we'd see this from the FBI or DOJ or whatever, not from an anonymous leak.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 11, 2016 10:27 AM (KUaJL)

159 ow that girl! It's Carmen Veranda.


Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:17 AM


Nope.

Porcha De Rossi.


no, it's Brooklyn DECKer

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 10:27 AM (SIwLd)

160 Uh oh, Michelle Fields caught plagiarizing:

Things got out of hand.


She needs to be kept at arms length.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:24 AM (b0NwW)




She didn't mean no 'arm

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 11, 2016 10:27 AM (493sH)

161 "Aw, there's nothing going on here. Why don't you and me go downtown and grab a cup at Phillie's Diner?"

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:28 AM (BqKyT)

162 Porche's are from a by gone era. An era where PC was unheard of, were Patriotism was still OK, and America meant something. I miss it.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
------------

Well, I *am* dead.

Posted by: Ferdinand Porche at August 11, 2016 10:28 AM (9mTYi)

163 my family and I are rarely in the house during good weather...eat outside, the kids play outside, boink the missus outside...but we are the exception) they actually get to see and know their neighbors. "

The neighbors are all sitting up in their second story bedrooms with binoculars watching you boink the missus.




Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 11, 2016 10:28 AM (u0lmX)

164 "Do it on the porch? What makes you think I would stoop so low?"



I'm gonna hafta step up my game.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:29 AM (b0NwW)

165 >>Not to the same extent as Chelsea Clinton.


Muldoon, did you see that aspiring pediatric cardiologist Chelsea Clinton, who by the way has a PhD in Public Health, was the first one to identify the Zika problem?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2016 10:29 AM (NOIQH)

166 Why do you ask?
Got ahold of some bad baby batter?

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:29 AM (LdMbv)

167 Porches were from an era before air conditioning. People would sit and read and entertain. Especially at night. They brought us out of the hot house into the cool night air.

Decks are not really porches. They are for privacy and suntanning and grilling food and daytime activity. They bring us out from the air conditioned house.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 11, 2016 10:29 AM (4AVeu)

168 >> "Ceci n'est pas un viol

mais je n'avoir un pénis utile

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 10:30 AM (MktOj)

169 35 ... I wonder if Lemon would have the balls to talk to Dan that way if they were both in the studio. Somehow, I doubt it.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2016 10:30 AM (V+03K)

170 I have a general information question that I'd like to ask you, offline preferably, to the extent that you're comfortable with same.

***

As a rule I have tried to avoid that type of thing. If it's general enough that you want to post it here I can give a general response.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:30 AM (wPiJc)

171 my family and I are rarely in the house during good weather...eat outside, the kids play outside, boink the missus outside...but we are the exception) they actually get to see and know their neighbors. "

The neighbors are all sitting up in their second story bedrooms with binoculars watching filming you boink the missus.




Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:30 AM (b0NwW)

172 This was the exact scene of the conversation when I lost my butt cherry.

Posted by: Hope Solo at August 11, 2016 10:30 AM (p6cXT)

173 166 Why do you ask?
Got ahold of some bad baby batter?

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:29 AM (LdMbv)


Shut up, you.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:30 AM (BqKyT)

174 I've always loved Hopper's paintings. They are evocative of a certain time, but they are not maudlin at all. There always seems to be a certain amount of tension, or desperation present just below the surface. Or ennui.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 10:31 AM (SIwLd)

175 The neighbors are all sitting up in their second story bedrooms with binoculars watching you boink the missus.
...
Not to toot my own horn, but they should probably use a telescope.

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 10:31 AM (1H9ox)

176 Guys, if it's supposedly from 4chan, it's garbage.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 11, 2016 10:31 AM (9krrF)

177 Howdy, y'all.

Because it's such a distance shot, it's hard to tell: are their dour expressions because they're about to do it or because they just did?

And is that a cat in the window... or her dad?

Posted by: mindful webworker - not all here at August 11, 2016 10:31 AM (ohWrE)

178 I think the scene with Gary Oldman is an even better scene. Gary Oldman is one of the all time great actors IMO.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 11, 2016 10:31 AM (uYSAz)

179 The other thing that came into fashion that grinds my aesthetic gears is how, for much of the same period, the garage is the most prominent part of the home and the view of it from the street. Many homes built during this period look like a garage with a house attached in the back.
Posted by: ajmojo
----------

Here we are being beset by Bauhaus bullshit. Fill-in housing being constructed in established neighborhoods, all in California/Portland motif.

The assholes have absolutely no respect for the neighborhoods.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:31 AM (9mTYi)

180 But that's not a Porch, it's a Maserati!

Posted by: just the punchline at August 11, 2016 10:32 AM (LdMbv)

181 Living as I do, out here in the Vast Wasteland, devoid of douchbag hipsters and Social Justice Warriors, porches and neighborhood impromptu are still common.
We lack IKEAs, and Whole Foods stores. Alas. All we have left is a sense of community, underserved as it is.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 10:32 AM (d6TTt)

182 4Chan is just a group home for retards

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 10:32 AM (eSQgj)

183 159 ow that girl! It's Carmen Veranda.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:17 AM

Nope.

Porcha De Rossi.

no, it's Brooklyn DECKer

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 10:27 AM (SIwLd)


Melanie Haber?

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:32 AM (BqKyT)

184 Most inner city denizens would prefer eschew a porch, in favor of a Mercedes.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2016 10:32 AM (v5iqM)

185
Perhaps Ms Fields should have kept an MLA Style Manual on hand.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 10:32 AM (xxSK3)

186 Ironic that Michelle Fields lacked proper footnotes.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 11, 2016 10:26 AM (v9gSJ)

Theadwinnah!

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:32 AM (LdMbv)

187 164 "Do it on the porch? What makes you think I would stoop so low?"



I'm gonna hafta step up my game.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:29 AM (b0NwW

There are steps you can take rickb223

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 11, 2016 10:32 AM (voOPb)

188 Porches here are mainly found on the avenue that runs along the shores of Lake Michigan. Large restored Victorians and Prairie style homes inspired by Frank Lloyd Wright. There are a couple of original F L Wright homes down there too, along with the home where Orson Wells was raised. Beautiful porches along the waterfront.


Back by where I live, everyone just drives into their garage, never to be seen again.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:33 AM (dFi94)

189 But that's not a Porch, it's a Maserati!

And Maserati is Italian, who are close to Sicilians who were spawned by Black Muslims.
Or something.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 10:33 AM (SIwLd)

190 "...to toot my own horn..."
-----------

Man, the ONT would get a lot of mileage out of that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:33 AM (9mTYi)

191 As a rule I have tried to avoid that type of thing. If it's general enough that you want to post it here I can give a general response.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:30 AM (wPiJc)

Understandable. Here's the general question: what is your take on the HPV vaccine, and/or where can I find reliable information about it? Most of what I see is either incomprehensible statistical gobbledygook or utter hysteria. I also can't seem to find anything level-headed on risk/benefit. If you are comfortable providing any info on the foregoing that would be much appreciated. If you don't care to discuss I understand that too.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:33 AM (0mRoj)

192 Lemon has given up even the appearance of being impartial. He is simply another dishonest Left Wing propagandist.

One day, people will realize they've voted for politics over country. But it will be too late to even express that without being publicly shamed and prosecuted.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 10:33 AM (MktOj)

193 Thanks CBD. I always enjoy Hopper's paintings. They manage to provide both the atmosphere and a possible story. They aren't detailed or complex scenes but he does a lot with blocks of space and color. And simple as they seem, it is hard to take your eyes off them.

Posted by: JTB at August 11, 2016 10:33 AM (V+03K)

194 Nighthawks is great. Even better is the Photoshop I'm too lazy to find that has Darth Vader in it.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 11, 2016 10:34 AM (u0s1P)

195
That's not a woman.

Posted by: I.C Littlehans at August 11, 2016 10:34 AM (dw3S5)

196 But that's not a Porch, it's a Maserati!
-------------

*spits*

Fascists, the lot of them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:34 AM (9mTYi)

197 Faith and begorrah!

Porches are the work of the Devil!

Filthy heathens.

Posted by: Paddy O'Furniture at August 11, 2016 10:34 AM (4AVeu)

198 Grammie! Have you returned and have you sobered up?

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:35 AM (BqKyT)

199 There are steps you can take rickb223



No! For the love of God, not the ones Herr Gruppenfurher Cankles can't climb!

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:35 AM (b0NwW)

200 Look, they are about to ship me overseas and I may never return. I don't want to leave this world knowing I'll never be with you. You are everything to me.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 11, 2016 10:35 AM (uYSAz)

201
Tell me more
Tell me more
Posted by: Bruce



The Vandals - Summer Lovin'

She was cool but just like the rest
I had to leave her with a phony address

Of course I live there, I love you, you fox
You're welcome anytime at my P.O. Box

www.youtube.com/watch?v=k28JeQloaCA

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 11, 2016 10:35 AM (kdS6q)

202 4Chan post claiming videos of Crooked Hillary committing treason to be released soon. See the sock link. H/T Blazing Cat Fur blog.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:14 AM (LdMbv)




With that crew, it could go either way, totally legit or a grand troll. They're the nitwits that toss out "Sam Hyde, white Tea Party guy" (or some variant thereof) as the suspect every time there's a mass shooting.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 11, 2016 10:35 AM (uiwCw)

203 Nighthawks is great. Even better is the Photoshop I'm too lazy to find that has Darth Vader in it.

Oh, Nighthawks has been parodied to no end. The one that features Elvis, Marilyn and James Dean is almost as well-known as the original.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 10:36 AM (SIwLd)

204 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJbtFAmXPkY

IN the same vain as the Porch...

Enjoy it

Priceless

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 11, 2016 10:36 AM (zp+j1)

205 Got a leaky veranda? A squeaky stoop? Call "Porch-911" for all your porch-related emergencies! Premiering tonight on HGTV.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 11, 2016 10:36 AM (2cS/G)

206 4Chan is just a group home for retards

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 10:32 AM (eSQgj)

Why are you insulting retards like that?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 11, 2016 10:37 AM (WVsWD)

207 You can tell this is from another era because today's average Americans are too fat to get through that front door.

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 10:37 AM (1H9ox)

208 Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:33 AM (0mRoj)

Vaccines are good. I don't even understand why this is remotely controversial.

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 10:37 AM (eSQgj)

209 Veteran NBC broadcaster Chris Marlowe called the gay spouse of beach volleyball player Larissa Franca her 'husband'.

He was referring to Liliane Maestrini, Franca's wife of three years.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:37 AM (LdMbv)

210 Lemon has given up even the appearance of being impartial. He is simply another dishonest Left Wing propagandist.

This is why I'd make a crappy politician. I couldn't go on one of those shows without starting out my answer to every question with "Don [or whoever], everything you just said is bullshit."

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:38 AM (BqKyT)

211 An attempt to humerus?
Posted by: Duncanthrax


Go ahead, Duncanthrax! Bone my #95 comment why don't you.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:19 AM


The bold indicates you're being rather tendontious.

As for boning, per yesterday's update to the AoSHQ Etiquette and Style Guide, initiated by OregonMuse, when folks like Rosie O'Donnell and Lena Dunham show up demanding 'action', the current inhabitant of The Barrel is the the Designated Hitter, aka the Designated Batter.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2016 10:38 AM (zzUT1)

212
206 4Chan is just a group home for retards

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 10:32 AM (eSQgj)

Why are you insulting retards like that?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 11, 2016 10:37 AM (WVsWD)







Yeah! Don't you know that we hate that......errr, they hate that shit.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 10:38 AM (xxSK3)

213 I like conflating Edward Hopper and Dennis Hopper. Guaranteed fun.

Posted by: Don Roeser at August 11, 2016 10:39 AM (wf7iV)

214 No porches in the DC metro. Of course, here you really don't want to "know" your neighbors. Yikes.
Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 10:27 AM (eSQgj)
------------

Dagny, I'm in NOVA and I have a lovely front porch with four white rockers on it. Kind of looks like Cracker Barrel but I don't care.

And I actually have nice neighbors. Some are even conservative! Not too many, but at least we're not alone.

Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 10:39 AM (805dc)

215
Grammie! Have you returned and have you sobered up?


Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:35 AM (BqKyT)
==============================================

I have returned indeed. I have come to realize that Wisconsin is not all it's cracked to be. I miss having a butler. And I miss all you can drink. Mostly all you can drink. I realized that I indeed can drink all I can drink.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:39 AM (dFi94)

216 Thanks Insomniac, nothing popped up here but got Ghosterly and Ad-block running. Still running an AV scan now.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2016 10:40 AM (LTMJL)

217 In whose head does this painting depict what DT is referring to when he says MAGA? The left? The right? subsections thereof?

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 10:40 AM (1H9ox)

218
Veteran NBC broadcaster Chris Marlowe called the gay spouse of beach volleyball player Larissa Franca her 'husband'.

He was referring to Liliane Maestrini, Franca's wife of three years.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:37 AM (LdMbv)









Come on over here and suck your wife's dick!

/just the punch line

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 10:40 AM (xxSK3)

219 >>Vaccines are good. I don't even understand why this is remotely controversial.
Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 10:37 AM (eSQgj)

Vaccines that have been around for 30 years we have a pretty good handle on their side effects. New ones, eh.

Posted by: Lea at August 11, 2016 10:40 AM (lIU4e)

220 209 Veteran NBC broadcaster Chris Marlowe called the gay spouse of beach volleyball player Larissa Franca her 'husband'.

He was referring to Liliane Maestrini, Franca's wife of three years.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:37 AM (LdMbv)

Both of whom have great bodies and are thus a total waste since they are daughters of Sappho.

Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at August 11, 2016 10:42 AM (RD7QR)

221 the current inhabitant of The Barrel is the the [Rosie O'Donnell and Lena Dunham] Designated Hitter, aka the Designated Batter
OMG.
It's batter all the way down.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:42 AM (LdMbv)

222 Anybody else have that big vaccine circle on their upper arm? What is that? Polio? Measles?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:42 AM (dFi94)

223 >>Dagny, I'm in NOVA and I have a lovely front porch with four white
rockers on it. Kind of looks like Cracker Barrel but I don't care.


Sitting in one of the rockers on the Mount Vernon porch is glorious!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2016 10:42 AM (NOIQH)

224 what is your take on the HPV vaccine...?


*****

Not exactly my area of expertise. The purported value of the Human Papilloma Virus vaccine predicated on the notion that there is a causative relationship between HPV and cervical cancer and that preventing HPV would reduce rates of cervical cancer later in life. The efficacy is I think, open to question. The political problems came in when it was being pushed toward younger aged girls (12-13) and was being pushed toward mandatory administration, both of which were seen as promoting sexual activity in early adolescents and taking away parental autonomy.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has shown a willingness (in other areas such as gun control) to cite bogus research and self-referential citations to push political agendas. I canceled my membership in the AAP a few years ago for just that reason. I take everything they put out with a large grain of salt, including their advice to not use large amounts of salt ( )

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:42 AM (wPiJc)

225 Lemon is probably the worst one of the bunch. He is dumb, but he's arrogant as hell. The way he talks down to and patronizes his guests. I saw him do it with Bonigno and I watched him do with Sheriff Clarke, who I thought was going to punch him in the face.
Don Lemon has a baby face. Someone should punch him in the dick....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 10:42 AM (SIwLd)

226 Heh. Pull-down blind in the window.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:42 AM (9mTYi)

227 I have a lovely front porch with four white rockers on it
________________________________

Shhhh. You weren't supposed to ell anyone we're here!

Posted by: Sammy Haggar, Ted Nugent, Bob Seger and Mick Jagger at August 11, 2016 10:43 AM (4AVeu)

228 222 Anybody else have that big vaccine circle on their upper arm? What is that? Polio? Measles?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:42 AM (dFi94)

Smallpox.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:43 AM (mXn0o)

229
In green shoots news, Macy's closing another 100 stores.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 11, 2016 10:43 AM (kdS6q)

230
Anybody else have that big vaccine circle on their upper arm? What is that? Polio? Measles?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:42 AM (dFi94)




TB, I think.

Funny how often you see that mark on actors in period pieces set in Ancient Rome.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 10:43 AM (xxSK3)

231 I have returned indeed. I have come to realize that Wisconsin is not all it's cracked to be. I miss having a butler. And I miss all you can drink. Mostly all you can drink. I realized that I indeed can drink all I can drink.

Got married...check
Got taste of high life...check
Learned wonders of drinking heavily...check

Seems to be progressing normally...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 11, 2016 10:43 AM (9krrF)

232 he's very focused

Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at August 11, 2016 10:43 AM (0O7c5)

233 Anybody else have that big vaccine circle on their upper arm? What is that? Polio? Measles?
Posted by: grammie winger
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Smallpox

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:43 AM (9mTYi)

234 I like conflating Edward Hopper and Dennis Hopper. Guaranteed fun.
Yeah. That McCloud show was great. A cowboy... in New York City. Funny.

Posted by: joey biden at August 11, 2016 10:44 AM (LdMbv)

235 And the NFL does it again. Dallas Cowboys wanted to wear an "Arm in Arm" logo on their helmets this season to honor the police officers killed in Dallas last month. Denied.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 11, 2016 10:44 AM (2cS/G)

236 222 Anybody else have that big vaccine circle on their upper arm? What is that? Polio? Measles?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:42 AM (dFi94)


I noticed that Michael Phelps' upper body is covered with purple circles. I figure its either some weird new mutation of Kaposi's sarcoma, or somebody gave him a whole bunch of hickeys.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:44 AM (BqKyT)

237 213 I like conflating Edward Hopper and Dennis Hopper. Guaranteed fun.

Posted by: Don Roeser at August 11, 2016 10:39 AM (wf7iV)

The painting takes on an ominous "Blue Velvet" vibe. The couple just found a severed ear in the grass.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 11, 2016 10:44 AM (u0lmX)

238 >>Vaccines are good. I don't even understand why this is remotely controversial.


It's weird that our 'I love science' progressive betters are so keen on rejecting so many of the developments that have enabled Western civilization to flourish. The want to leave their kids at risk of contracting awful diseases, starve them of milk and meat (protein!) that would make them big and strong, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2016 10:45 AM (NOIQH)

239
Hell, I thought it was from the TB vaccination.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 10:45 AM (xxSK3)

240 Smallpox.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 10:43 AM (mXn0o)
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Ahhh. Smallpox. Do they still give that? I remember lining up in the school gym with the rest of the children and getting some kind of vaccinations. Seemed it was something we drank though. Not shots. I think we got flouride treatments too.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:45 AM (dFi94)

241 TB, I think

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 10:43 AM (xxSK3)

No vaccine for TB.

It's smallpox.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2016 10:46 AM (Zu3d9)

242 Grammie, welcome back! I saw that you popped in a few times last week. I hope you and the Rev had a lovely time in Cancun or wherever you were.

Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 10:46 AM (805dc)

243 Hell, I thought it was from the TB vaccination.



Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 10:45 AM (xxSK3)

TB is usually done on the inside forearm...and doesn't leave a scar.

Posted by: Tami at August 11, 2016 10:46 AM (Enq6K)

244 Look, they are about to ship me overseas and I may never return. I don't want to leave this world knowing I'll never be with you. You are everything to me.


Yup.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2016 10:46 AM (mgbwf)

245 Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:44 AM (BqKyT)

I saw that too. I thought of the Star Trek episode with the salt-sucking monster...

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 11, 2016 10:46 AM (u0lmX)

246 Grammie! Have you returned and have you sobered up?


Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:35 AM (BqKyT)
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I have returned indeed. I have come to realize that Wisconsin is not all it's cracked to be. I miss having a butler. And I miss all you can drink. Mostly all you can drink. I realized that I indeed can drink all I can drink.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:39 AM (dFi94)



grammie, hi. Don't know if the drinking references are real or not, ( never make assumptions about veracity at AoS ). But, if true, how are you doing? Genuine concern here, as I've had some experience in the area cause of my " leetle problem".

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 10:46 AM (d6TTt)

247 Vaccines are good. I don't even understand why this is remotely controversial.
Posted by: dagny
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Evidence of that is the fact that we don't even *think* about Smallpox anymore.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:47 AM (9mTYi)

248 Good morning, Horde!

It's that time of year again: ramping up for the 3rd Annual Southwest Ohio Moron Meetup.

Tentatively scheduled for mid-October in the Dayton area.

Want to be kept in the loop?

Drop me a line at swohmome@mail.com (and please include your nic).

Posted by: ibguy at August 11, 2016 10:48 AM (vUcdz)

249 >>The political problems came in when it was being pushed toward younger
aged girls (12-13) and was being pushed toward mandatory administration....


Heck, our pediatrician suggested our son get the HPV vaccination when he was ~11 (told us to start thinking about it).

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2016 10:48 AM (NOIQH)

250 Grammie , what you drank for a vaccine was polio .

When I was in school they checked for a scar on your upper arm for what I believe was a smallpox vaccine.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 11, 2016 10:48 AM (TnUKj)

251 Grammie, if you want to continue your butlerific lifestyle to which you've grown accustomed, you're going to have to train your husband.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:48 AM (BqKyT)

252 Bluebell - thank you. We are indeed back from Cancun. Yay us. I have a strong desire to apply for duel citizenship.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:48 AM (dFi94)

253 236 222 Anybody else have that big vaccine circle on their upper arm? What is that? Polio? Measles?
___________________

Smallpox. It is from the scab. You got poked several times and it created a scab, which scarred.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 11, 2016 10:48 AM (4AVeu)

254 Genuine concern here, as I've had some experience in the area cause of my " leetle problem".
Posted by: tubal
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I'm not concerned. Alcohol is an integral part of the Lutheran liturgy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:48 AM (9mTYi)

255
Ahhh. Smallpox. Do they still give that?
Posted by: grammie winger



Routine vaccination of the American public against smallpox stopped in 1972 after the disease was eradicated in the United States.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 11, 2016 10:49 AM (kdS6q)

256 Back in my day, they gave us kids polio vaccine in those little pink sugar cubes.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:49 AM (BqKyT)

257 Shhhh. You weren't supposed to ell anyone we're here!
Posted by: Sammy Haggar, Ted Nugent, Bob Seger and Mick Jagger at August 11, 2016 10:43 AM (4AVeu)
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Get off my porch, dudes. This isn't an old folks home, yet.

Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 10:50 AM (805dc)

258 215: yeah grammie, wisconsin sucks ass. all russ and hillary. Newfoundland is looking better and better. i hate idiots. and, this state is full of them.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 11, 2016 10:50 AM (KP5rU)

259 Grammie , what you drank for a vaccine was polio .
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You're from a later generation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, consuming a sugar cube at August 11, 2016 10:50 AM (9mTYi)

260 Aaaand , obviously, after reading a little further, grammie just was gone on a vacation, drank too many 40s while gone, and tubal outs himself as a fformer " if that's allowed" alcoholic and druggie.
Shit.
Anyway, welcome back. Hope you had a good vacay.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 10:50 AM (d6TTt)

261 Grammie, if you want to continue your butlerific
lifestyle to which you've grown accustomed, you're going to have to
train your husband.


Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:48 AM (BqKyT)
==============================================

He's make a terrible butler. Spills everywhere. Forgets his keys. Loses his glasses. Uses my shampoo because he can't find his. I'm thinking about getting a Golden Retriever. Much more trainable.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:51 AM (dFi94)

262 Evidence of that is the fact that we don't even *think* about Smallpox anymore.




We ran out of blankets.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 10:51 AM (b0NwW)

263 Insomniac, my kids are getting the HPV vaccine.
Insurance covers it.
It's very expensive otherwise though.

Posted by: @votermom's phone at August 11, 2016 10:51 AM (4KRjm)

264 Why are their eyes gouged out?

Posted by: Jeepers Creepers at August 11, 2016 10:51 AM (LQLeS)

265 You're from a later generation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, consuming a sugar cube

If I was any earlier I'd be dead.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 11, 2016 10:52 AM (TnUKj)

266 As bad as plagiarism is for Michelle Fields, she crossed the line by saying she was the drummer for Def Leppard.

Posted by: WeBoned! at August 11, 2016 10:52 AM (T1IWS)

267 Newfoundland is looking better and better. i hate idiots. and, this state is full of them.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 11, 2016 10:50 AM (KP5rU)

But they elected Trudeau in Canada....

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 11, 2016 10:52 AM (u0lmX)

268 251 Grammie, if you want to continue your butlerific lifestyle to which you've grown accustomed, you're going to have to train your husband.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:48 AM (BqKyT)
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Now there's a good idea. How does one go about this? Asking for a friend, of course.

Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 10:52 AM (805dc)

269 How Phelps got those marks:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/gurjkp2

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:52 AM (LdMbv)

270 One problem with the ever expanding list of vaccines is the concept of diminishing returns. A disease with high prevalence that is highly infective and has deadly or disabling consequences (diphtheria, polio) is an apt target of a population immunization program. Diseases with lower prevalence, less virulence and less deadly consequences not so much. But the success of vaccines for measles, mumps, polio, smallpox, etc have led to pushes in virology for more and more vaccines, with less and less population benefit. i.e. HPV vaccine

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:52 AM (wPiJc)

271 He's make a terrible butler. Spills everywhere. Forgets his keys. Loses his glasses. Uses my shampoo because he can't find his. I'm thinking about getting a Golden Retriever.
Posted by: grammie winger
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Uh, but, he's housebroken, right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:52 AM (9mTYi)

272 Anyway, welcome back. Hope you had a good vacay.
Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 10:50 AM (d6TTt)


Dude. That was no vacay, that was her honeymoon. Our grammie is now a respectable married woman.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:52 AM (BqKyT)

273 I'm pregnant jimmy and clothes hangers aren't as accurate as I would wish

Posted by: PP at August 11, 2016 10:53 AM (A1MMY)

274 Hopper paints a moment in a story. The viewer sees the painting and immediately begins developing the relationships between the characters, the setting, and the artist. As for the narrative, Hopper leaves that to us.

Compare Edward Hopper's "Nighthawks" to Norman Rockwell's "Four Freedoms". Two artists with the gift of painting dramatic narrative on a very human, personal scale.


Posted by: mrp at August 11, 2016 10:53 AM (JBggj)

275 Grammie , what you drank for a vaccine was polio .

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I bet they couldn't do that in schools today.






Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:53 AM (dFi94)

276 >>Heck, our pediatrician suggested our son get the HPV vaccination when he was ~11 (told us to start thinking about it).


Be silly not to get it for him as soon as possible, unless there's a medical reason not to.

Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 10:53 AM (c1srJ)

277 Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 11, 2016 10:50 AM (KP5rU)

It could be worse for grammie. She could be in the land of durbin and kirk. durbi and kirk awwkk!! durbie and krkkkk.....aaakkkkk!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at August 11, 2016 10:53 AM (WVsWD)

278 Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 10:50 AM (d6TTt)

Your secret is safe here.





Did y'all hear about chemjeff?

Posted by: Golfman at August 11, 2016 10:53 AM (9HX7k)

279 I noticed that Michael Phelps' upper body is covered with purple circles. I figure its either some weird new mutation of Kaposi's sarcoma, or somebody gave him a whole bunch of hickeys.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:44 AM (BqKyT)

It's that chinese (I think chinese) muscle therapy "cupping" thing where they heat up a hot glass, and then set it on your skin, so when the air inside it cools, the pressure decreases and sucks the skin up.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 11, 2016 10:53 AM (KUaJL)

280 Our grammie is now a respectable married woman.


Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:52 AM (BqKyT)
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Respectable ? You take that back.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:54 AM (dFi94)

281 254 Genuine concern here, as I've had some experience in the area cause of my " leetle problem".
Posted by: tubal
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I'm not concerned. Alcohol is an integral part of the Lutheran liturgy.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:48 AM (9mTYi)

I think Luther himself wanted to make the communion wine Mad Dog 20/20. I guess Melanchthon talked him out of it.

Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at August 11, 2016 10:54 AM (RD7QR)

282 GET TO THE HOPPAH!

Posted by: Ahnold at August 11, 2016 10:54 AM (u0s1P)

283 I have a smallpox vax scar.
Btw it was ised as a plot point in the Outlander book

Posted by: @votermom's phone at August 11, 2016 10:54 AM (yzlKi)

284 He was referring to Liliane Maestrini, Franca's wife of three years.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 10:37 AM (LdMbv)


Well, that's not exactly right, either, is it? Very peculiar, if you get my reference.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2016 10:54 AM (oqkO3)

285 Hopper's true masterpiece, Waterworld, was still two years away.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 11, 2016 10:55 AM (VdICR)

286 267: a complete total idiot can't destroy a whole country. he can onlybtry. then, he runs out of ambition. unless he's an oreo with a whore mother.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 11, 2016 10:55 AM (KP5rU)

287 Sugar cubes? I'd rather get a prick.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 11, 2016 10:55 AM (LQLeS)

288 In Okinawa in the '50s they would line up the kids at the elementary school and the army medics would hit both arms with a battery of shots.

Poor kids held their arms like walking chimps for the rest of the day.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 11, 2016 10:55 AM (TnUKj)

289 . Our grammie is now a respectable married woman.


Well, married at least.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2016 10:56 AM (mgbwf)

290 He's make a terrible butler. Spills everywhere. Forgets his keys. Loses his glasses. Uses my shampoo because he can't find his. I'm thinking about getting a Golden Retriever. Much more trainable.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:51 AM (dFi94)


Sounds like you're just starting to learn how to live with your husband without driving each other nuts.

This should be fun.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:56 AM (BqKyT)

291 Grammie , what you drank for a vaccine was polio .
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Waiter, this drink tastes funny....

Posted by: Mike Hammer, crossing the beams at August 11, 2016 10:56 AM (9mTYi)

292 I don't like live virus vaccines.
Insisted my kids get the polio shot rather than the drops back when they were still pushing the drops.

Posted by: @votermom's phone at August 11, 2016 10:57 AM (IUZoP)

293 The big circular vaccination scar is smallpox.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 11, 2016 10:57 AM (gUoN4)

294 Interesting. Doesn't RCMP have its own SWAT unit? Why get a military unit involved? Maybe he was further along in his preparations than we know...
Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at August 11, 2016 10:16 AM (RD7QR)

He had been under surveillance for two years and the LEO were tipped that he was planning a suicide bombing during rush hour in a large city. When police went to arrest him, he detonated a bomb, but it didn't kill him, just injured him. He refused to surrender and was about to detonate bomb #2, when the police/swat forced shot him dead.

They knew what he was planning and needed the additional bomb expertise.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2016 10:57 AM (Vee9K)

295 The big circular vaccination scar is smallpox.

This was actually a plot point in the Outlander book series...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 11, 2016 10:58 AM (9krrF)

296 >>Grammie , what you drank for a vaccine was polio


Lipton Instant Polio Drink is hard to find, these days.

Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 10:58 AM (c1srJ)

297 Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 11, 2016 10:25 AM (zp+j1)

Today front porches, stoops and lawns -- a favorite of the drive bys.

That said, I love front porches too. My grandparents are long gone, but their brick home with a large front porch still stands. It's on the way to the cemetery where most of my family is buried -- old style -- Slovaks here, Poles there, Italians there. Every time I visit PA. the nostalgia rushes in.

Posted by: gracepc at August 11, 2016 10:58 AM (OU4q6)

298 287 Sugar cubes? I'd rather get a prick.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 11, 2016 10:55 AM (LQLeS)

Well, Bjork is kind of a bitch so I guess the "prick" part fits.

Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at August 11, 2016 10:58 AM (RD7QR)

299 Ace's mom gave him Kaboom for breakfast?

That's nothing. My older brother gave me Chicken Pops.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:58 AM (wPiJc)

300 25 OK, just to add to the nice, some very well executed pictures of Maine Coon cats:

http://tinyurl.com/hveztjb
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 11, 2016 10:03 AM (9krrF)


Found the kittehs!

Posted by: rickl at August 11, 2016 10:59 AM (zoehZ)

301 Genuine concern here, as I've had some experience in the area cause of my " leetle problem".

Posted by: tubal

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I pretty much didn't drink from Christmas till my honeymoon. I probably won't drink again till Christmas. It makes me gain weight so I only indulge on special occasions. Husband doesn't really drink at all, except for communion, so that does make it easier. If you're not around drinkers, I think it's a little easier not to drink. And I don't want to get fat. So there's that.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 10:59 AM (dFi94)

302 grammie, congratulations.
Us guys are trainable, with lots of Behavioral Modification techniques. B F Skinner got his start by hiring himself out to newlywed women.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 10:59 AM (d6TTt)

303
Btw it was ised as a plot point in the Outlander book
Posted by: @votermom's
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A clever one too. I suppose Spandex would have worked too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 10:59 AM (9mTYi)

304 It's just a young Billy and Hillary Clinton on the steps of his ancestral home in Hope.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 11, 2016 11:00 AM (hqZPQ)

305 Porches are too pedestrian. I'd take her in the gazebo.

Posted by: Fritz at August 11, 2016 11:00 AM (2Mnv1)

306 Ahhh. Smallpox. Do they still give that? I remember lining up in the school gym with the rest of the children and getting some kind of vaccinations. Seemed it was something we drank though. Not shots. I think we got flouride treatments too.
Posted by: grammie winger

i have that scar. my mom and dad used to tell the story that i was all smiles just before the needle went in and then my face turned to sheer sadness. i was a baby at fort bragg, when my pop was 82nd...she also fed me fluoride water, and swears that's why i have no cavities to this day.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 11, 2016 11:00 AM (AhcCB)

307 B F Skinner got his start by hiring himself out to newlywed women.
Posted by: tubal
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That rat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:00 AM (9mTYi)

308 Sugar cubes? I'd rather get a prick.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 11, 2016 10:55 AM (LQLeS)

One can get you the other, baby.

Posted by: mister ed at August 11, 2016 11:00 AM (LdMbv)

309 >TB is usually done on the inside forearm...and doesn't leave a scar.
Posted by: Tami at August 11, 2016 10:46 AM (Enq6K)

That just checking for TB, not a vaccine.

Posted by: Lea at August 11, 2016 11:01 AM (lIU4e)

310 Jinx, in elementary on shot day we would be dodging each other - everyone wants to punch the other kid on the arm.

Posted by: @votermom's phone at August 11, 2016 11:01 AM (J1dlk)

311 B F Skinner got his start by hiring himself out to newlywed women.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 10:59 AM (d6TTt)
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Ha!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2016 11:01 AM (dFi94)

312 Ahhh. Smallpox. Do they still give that

My brothers had the scar. I don't. Our DoB's straddle the line when they stopped giving it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 11, 2016 11:02 AM (9krrF)

313 So that's what the B F stands for.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 11, 2016 11:02 AM (hqZPQ)

314 When I was in 3rd and 4th grade my dad was stationed at Fort Sill. We lived on post in a big 4 or 5 bedroom house right across from the parade ground. The thing had 3/4 wraparound porches on first and second stories. Portions were screened in and we often slept out in the summer.

The upper story porch made a great staging area for a Halloween haunted house my brothers and I put on one year. (Ghosts sliding down hidden wires, clanking chains, moaning banshee sounds, etc.)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 11:02 AM (wPiJc)

315 That just checking for TB, not a vaccine.
Posted by: Lea
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Prick Test.

*makes note about fodder for the ONT*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:02 AM (9mTYi)

316 she also fed me fluoride water, and swears that's why i have no cavities to this day.


Flouride is a commie plot to sap our precious bodily fluids.

Posted by: Gen. Buck Turgidson at August 11, 2016 11:02 AM (mgbwf)

317 I noticed that Michael Phelps' upper body is covered with purple circles. I figure its either some weird new mutation of Kaposi's sarcoma, or somebody gave him a whole bunch of hickeys.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 10:44 AM (BqKyT)

It's that chinese (I think chinese) muscle therapy "cupping" thing where they heat up a hot glass, and then set it on your skin, so when the air inside it cools, the pressure decreases and sucks the skin up.



Rio pool water. Nuff said.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 11:02 AM (b0NwW)

318 It's that chinese (I think chinese) muscle therapy "cupping" thing where they heat up a hot glass, and then set it on your skin, so when the air inside it cools, the pressure decreases and sucks the skin up.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 11, 2016 10:53 AM (KUaJL)

Latest fad alternative medicine thing in sports. They showed how it was done the other night, a cup is placed on the area needing treatment and a vacuum pump is placed onto the cup and attached via a valve. Sits there for a few minutes and creates enough suction that blood flows into the area(and tissue experiences microruptures, which is why you see the circular bruises). Supposedly creates enough blood flow to recover muscles quicker.

The bruises last for almost two weeks.....

Rowdy Gaines was asked if he wished it was available when he was diving competitively and he said no, he wouldn't have done it anyway, LOL.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2016 11:02 AM (Vee9K)

319 Flouride is a commie plot to sap our precious bodily fluids.
Posted by: Gen. Buck Turgidson

Hey, that's my line!

Posted by: Gen. Jack Ripper at August 11, 2016 11:04 AM (TnUKj)

320 309
>TB is usually done on the inside forearm...and doesn't leave a scar.

Posted by: Tami at August 11, 2016 10:46 AM (Enq6K)



That just checking for TB, not a vaccine.

Posted by: Lea at August 11, 2016 11:01 AM (lIU4e)

Yeah, I neglected to mention that it wasn't a vaccine. Guess I just assumed everyone knew that already.
When we moved back to the US after living in Asia for 5 years, I had to get my kids physicals to play sports. Part of that was a TB test. My daughter's TB test came up positive. Chest x-ray was negative though. But she had to go on meds for 9 months and we were sent to an infectious disease specialist in Connecticut. His name? Dr. Lee.

Posted by: Tami at August 11, 2016 11:04 AM (Enq6K)

321 That said, I love front porches too. My grandparents are long gone, but their brick home with a large front porch still stands. It's on the way to the cemetery where most of my family is buried -- old style -- Slovaks here, Poles there, Italians there. Every time I visit PA. the nostalgia rushes in.
Posted by: gracepc at August 11, 2016 10:58 AM (OU4q6)


Yes, the only thing I don't like about the house I bought nearly 30 years is that it doesn't have a front porch. And there's no easy way to build that sort of addition.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:04 AM (BqKyT)

322 315 That just checking for TB, not a vaccine.
Posted by: Lea
---------
Prick Test.
*makes note about fodder for the ONT*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:02 AM (

First time I used that test was on an ex father-in- law. He tested positive.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:04 AM (d6TTt)

323 They showed how it was done the other night, a cup is placed on the
area needing treatment and a vacuum pump is placed onto the cup and
attached via a valve.

Back in my day, we called them "milkers." And yes, the bruises do last for 2 weeks.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 11, 2016 11:04 AM (hqZPQ)

324 i have that scar. my mom and dad used to tell the story that i was all smiles just before the needle went in and then my face turned to sheer sadness. i was a baby at fort bragg, when my pop was 82nd...she also fed me fluoride water, and swears that's why i have no cavities to this day.
Posted by: concrete girl at August 11, 2016 11:00 AM (AhcCB)

My dad too. Sis was born at Womack in '67.

If I got the fluoride water it didn't work.

Posted by: Golfman at August 11, 2016 11:04 AM (9HX7k)

325 I must have been going through grade school at the height of polio vaccination; I remember at least three injections (one with this huge compressed-air pistol-thing), and the oral vaccine four or five times more.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 11, 2016 11:04 AM (gUoN4)

326 >>atest fad alternative medicine thing in sports. They showed how it was done the other night, a cup is placed on the area needing treatment and a vacuum pump is placed onto the cup and attached via a valve


That's not mine.

Posted by: Austin Powers at August 11, 2016 11:05 AM (c1srJ)

327 Hey, that's my line!
Posted by: Gen. Jack Ripper



Oh fuck. Did I get that wrong?

Posted by: Gen. Buck Turgidson at August 11, 2016 11:05 AM (mgbwf)

328 Seamus, that sounds like my kind of house.

And I would love a screened in porch. I sit on my porch or our deck as much as I can. When my kids were younger we used to do school out there sometimes.

We all go out there during thunderstorms.

Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 11:05 AM (805dc)

329 Prick Test.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

First time I used that test was on an ex father-in- law. He tested positive.
Posted by: tubal


For being a prick?

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 11:05 AM (b0NwW)

330 The bruises last for almost two weeks.....

Rowdy Gaines was asked if he wished it was available when he was diving competitively and he said no, he wouldn't have done it anyway, LOL.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2016 11:02 AM (Vee9K)


Mecha-hickies!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2016 11:06 AM (oqkO3)

331 Now there's a good idea. How does one go about this? Asking for a friend, of course.
Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 10:52 AM


Step 1. Ask if there's anything he might enjoy, while wearing something 'comfortable' and giving him 'that look'. Afterwards, make him his favorite sammich.

Step 2. Watch his favorite seasonal sporting event with him, making sure his beverage and snacks are replenished frequently.

Step 3. Goto Step 1.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2016 11:06 AM (zzUT1)

332 274, " Hopper paints a moment in a story."

Brilliant.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 11:06 AM (SIwLd)

333 Flouride is a commie plot to sap our precious bodily fluids.
Posted by: Gen. Buck Turgidson at August 11, 2016 11:02 AM (mgbwf)


well I think so

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 11, 2016 11:06 AM (zp+j1)

334 *Looks at painting*

WARNING WARNING! TRANNY ALERT, TRANNY ALERT!!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2016 11:06 AM (TOk1P)

335 The polio vaccine was consumed orally. They don't do smallpox anymore, but considering the concerted effort to turn the US into a third world shithole and revive previously eradicated disease, I wouldn't be shocked if it had to be resumed.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 11:06 AM (BqENW)

336
319 Flouride is a commie plot to sap our precious bodily fluids.
Posted by: Gen. Buck Turgidson

Hey, that's my line!

Posted by: Gen. Jack Ripper at August 11, 2016 11:04 AM (TnUKj)





Chill, guys. I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that until all the facts are in.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 11:06 AM (xxSK3)

337 224 what is your take on the HPV vaccine...?


*****

Not exactly my area of expertise. The purported value of the Human Papilloma Virus vaccine predicated on the notion that there is a causative relationship between HPV and cervical cancer and that preventing HPV would reduce rates of cervical cancer later in life. The efficacy is I think, open to question. The political problems came in when it was being pushed toward younger aged girls (12-13) and was being pushed toward mandatory administration, both of which were seen as promoting sexual activity in early adolescents and taking away parental autonomy.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has shown a willingness (in other areas such as gun control) to cite bogus research and self-referential citations to push political agendas. I canceled my membership in the AAP a few years ago for just that reason. I take everything they put out with a large grain of salt, including their advice to not use large amounts of salt ( )
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:42 AM (wPiJc

HPV is the good (least bad) STD because 90% are carriers anyway right?

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 11, 2016 11:07 AM (p6cXT)

338 Honestly, I wouldn't even know how to use that thing.

Posted by: Austin Powers at August 11, 2016 11:07 AM (c1srJ)

339 Posted by: Lea at August 11, 2016 10:40 AM (lIU4e)

HPV isn't all that new, 10 years old at least? I got it for my male kids years ago. I didn't want them transmitting pap to their wives and their being potentially left with raising kids on their own. They can get cancer from pp too.

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 11:07 AM (eSQgj)

340 The upper story porch made a great staging area for a Halloween haunted house my brothers and I put on one year. (Ghosts sliding down hidden wires, clanking chains, moaning banshee sounds, etc.)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
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Some of the older officer's quarters were very interesting. Every time a base has closed, I have regretted the passing of some of those homes.

Example, Ft. Benjamin Harrison:
http://tinyurl.com/zharlom

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:07 AM (9mTYi)

341 BTW, there is a TB vaccine (BCG) used widely in Asia, not so much in the U.S. Causes future TB tests to be positive so takes away that means of screening for active TB in later years.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 11:07 AM (wPiJc)

342 Yes, the only thing I don't like about the house I bought nearly 30 years is that it doesn't have a front porch. And there's no easy way to build that sort of addition.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:04 AM (BqKyT)
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Do you mean on your house, or houses in general? Because we added our porch to our house after we bought it.

Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 11:07 AM (805dc)

343 Catch everyone later, managed to up a 4.5 hour work day into a 10.5 hour work day... *thud* Bright side - 1.5 hours of overtime.

Don't burn the place down.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2016 11:07 AM (LTMJL)

344 there must have been a polio scare too because i remember having to go to the public school to get the sugar cube with the pink liquid on it.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 11, 2016 11:08 AM (AhcCB)

345 Why not go back to leeches?

Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 11:08 AM (c1srJ)

346 We've got and most of the houses in our neighbourhood have porches too although not the screened type. With a few exceptions though most people sit out in their backyard patios or decks instead.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2016 11:08 AM (LdMbv)

347 The polio vaccine was consumed orally. They don't do smallpox anymore, but considering the concerted effort to turn the US into a third world shithole and revive previously eradicated disease, I wouldn't be shocked if it had to be resumed.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 11:06 AM (BqENW)


The original polio vaccine was injected. The oral one came later. I had both.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2016 11:08 AM (oqkO3)

348 Flouride is a commie plot to sap our precious bodily fluids.
Posted by: Gen. Buck Turgidson

Hey, that's my line!

Posted by: Gen. Jack Ripper at August 11, 2016 11:04 AM (TnUKj)

Chill, guys. I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that until all the facts are in.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
-----------

We've gotten along fine without it.

Posted by: The Brits at August 11, 2016 11:09 AM (9mTYi)

349 Anyone been through F.E. Warren AFB in Wyoming? Everyone I know who was stationed there insists that the dorms and base housing are haunted.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 11, 2016 11:09 AM (hqZPQ)

350
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2016 11:06 AM (zzUT1)
-----------

Wait a minute. That seems to be training me, not him.

Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 11:09 AM (805dc)

351 >Dr. Lee



I used to have to get the tb test every year at work. I hate that thing.

Posted by: Lea at August 11, 2016 11:09 AM (lIU4e)

352 there must have been a polio scare too because i remember having to go to the public school to get the sugar cube with the pink liquid on it.
Posted by: concrete girl
--------------

Epidemic, is the word.

Posted by: The Brits at August 11, 2016 11:10 AM (9mTYi)

353 329 Prick Test.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

First time I used that test was on an ex father-in- law. He tested positive.
Posted by: tubal


For being a prick?
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 11:05 AM (b0NwW)



Yeah pretty much. He would get drunk and call me a " sawed off little Scotsman". And then go on about how he "got tired of listening to me pontificate", as if I was too stupid to understand the meaning of the word.
The guy was a laff riot.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:10 AM (d6TTt)

354 Life before air conditioning. How quickly we forget.

Posted by: Carmen at August 11, 2016 11:10 AM (RHjCR)

355 So, when i was a baby, I actually had polio (born in 1956, vaccine came out in 1957), so when the nuns at the Catholic primary school I went to started lining up the sugar cubes for us, I told them "Joke's on you, sister! This won't do me no good, I already got polio, haw haw haw!"

They told me to shut up and eat the cube anyway.


Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:11 AM (BqKyT)

356 One of the world's most popular high-end teas is Oriental Beauty. It requires the help of the leafhopper insect, which nibbles the leaves, shocking them and forcing the plant to send tasty nutrients to repair the damage caused by the bugs. Will that count in your list of interesting hoppers?

Posted by: Smallish Bees at August 11, 2016 11:11 AM (yjhOG)

357 Well, I *am* dead.

Posted by: Ferdinand Porche at August 11, 2016 10:28 AM (9mTYi)

Another vote for HRC.



Posted by: gracepc at August 11, 2016 11:11 AM (OU4q6)

358 >>HPV isn't all that new, 10 years old at least?

It was when they first started pushing the hell out of it.

Posted by: Lea at August 11, 2016 11:11 AM (lIU4e)

359 Many homes built during this period look like a garage with a house attached in the back.

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 10:27 AM (1H9ox)

AC in most homes now, people would rather sit inside. Growing up no AC, so we were on the porch a lot (old Victorian home). I have seen these housing developments with a huge garage on the front, and a door on the side leading into the house...weird...for me anyway.

Posted by: Colin at August 11, 2016 11:11 AM (tVUA+)

360 Why not go back to leeches?
Posted by: garrett
-----------

Nah, cut to the chase. Bleeding.

Somewhere here, I have a fleam...
*rummages in desk drawer*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:12 AM (9mTYi)

361
(one with this huge compressed-air pistol-thing)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 11, 2016 11:04 AM (gUoN4)







Yeah, the Army loves those air-gun vaccinations. Which is fine if the use 'em correctly, without rushing it. More often, they'd smear the gun on your arm when they pulled the trigger and slice you open like a razor.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 11:12 AM (xxSK3)

362 ...TB vaccine...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 11:07 AM (wPiJc)

I thought BCG wasn't particularly effective.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2016 11:12 AM (Zu3d9)

363 Don't burn the place down.

Posted by: Anna Puma


/turns to flaming emus

Won't be needing you today, ladies.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 11, 2016 11:13 AM (9krrF)

364 I have a tiny front porch and I like to sit outside, but this time of year there are way too many mosquitoes.

Posted by: Lea at August 11, 2016 11:13 AM (lIU4e)

365 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:52 AM (wPiJc)


Thanks for your thoughts. I'll keep researching independently. My concerns are the relative novelty of the vaccine, it's concomitant lack of data on long term efficacy v. side effects, and that it's an "optional" vaccine in that it's not based on herd immunity the way MMR or other vaccines are.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2016 11:13 AM (BqENW)

366 there must have been a polio scare too because i remember having to go to the public school to get the sugar cube with the pink liquid on it.
Posted by: concrete girl


Back in the 40s and 50s, polio was a terrifying disease. My mother told me that in the summertime, all the hospitals had their iron lungs going day and night.

Everybody was scared.

And sometimes the polio victims recovered, and sometimes they didn't.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:13 AM (BqKyT)

367 Just a couple of kids monkeying around up there.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 11, 2016 11:14 AM (p6cXT)

368 >>Somewhere here, I have a fleam...


I have a copy of 'Blood, Sugar, Sex Magic' that is signed by Fleam!

Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 11:14 AM (c1srJ)

369 I have some rubbers in my pocket.

Posted by: deepred at August 11, 2016 11:14 AM (O9OeO)

370 OK folks. Nice areas close to the beach NC or SC? I need a condo to escape to. Something that won't wash away on the next Sandy.

Any suggestions?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 11:14 AM (MktOj)

371 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 10:42 AM (wPiJc

HPV is the good (least bad) STD because 90% are carriers anyway right?

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 11, 2016 11:07 AM (p6cXT)



You must be thinking of something else. Likely one of the herpes viruses, which is very common, and generally transmitted through innocent contact.


HPV is NOT something you want. For men, you can have it, and transmit it to your female partners, even when you have no evidence (or none you notice) of genital warts. For women, they can at times be first aware of it when they get an abnormal result on a PAP Smear.


Yes, there are varieties of HPV, and not all of them are associated with cervical cancer. The vaccine that exists is going to protect against certain varieties, and not others.

In all, it's worth having the vaccine. I do agree with Seamus though, the bigger ethical problem is the dishonesty with which it gets sold, and the fact that parents are being kept out of the decision making process.


That being said, teenage girls (and boys too) should get the vaccine. Unless they are NEVER in contact with other teenagers.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2016 11:15 AM (TOk1P)

372 Yeah, the Army loves those air-gun vaccinations.
Which is fine if the use 'em correctly, without rushing it. More often,
they'd smear the gun on your arm when they pulled the trigger and slice
you open like a razor.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 11:12 AM (xxSK3)

I was wondering if the army still uses those airguns??? I remember them well, never had a problem, just a red welt...

Posted by: Colin at August 11, 2016 11:15 AM (tVUA+)

373

The original polio vaccine was injected. - Salk
The oral one came later. - Sabin

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 11, 2016 11:15 AM (IqV8l)

374 370
OK folks. Nice areas close to the beach NC or SC? I need a condo to
escape to. Something that won't wash away on the next Sandy.



Any suggestions?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 11:14 AM (MktOj)

Times Beach Missouri


jk

Posted by: Tami at August 11, 2016 11:16 AM (Enq6K)

375
I was wondering if the army still uses those airguns??? I remember them well, never had a problem, just a red welt...

Posted by: Colin at August 11, 2016 11:15 AM (tVUA+)






Don't know. It's been over 20 years since I had the pleasure.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 11:16 AM (xxSK3)

376 Back in the 40s and 50s, polio was a terrifying disease.


I was born in '60 and I remember the neighborhood kid with leg braces.

It's amazing how quickly we forget horrors when they've passed.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2016 11:16 AM (mgbwf)

377 Something that won't wash away on the next Sandy.
------------

Okay, now there's yer problem.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:16 AM (9mTYi)

378 364 I have a tiny front porch and I like to sit outside, but this time of year there are way too many mosquitoes.
Posted by: Lea

I have two homes ( I know, 1% bastard ) and the first order of business was to screen in both porches. One of the better investments I've made.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:16 AM (d6TTt)

379 I just listened to the interview between Giuliani and Cuomo. I don't understand why Rudy kept giving Cuomo any deference as being fair. He is not fair. His brother is the governor of NY and a huge Clinton supporter. I mean no conflict of interest there, right? Why do we keep giving these people any respect? They don't deserve it.

Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 11, 2016 11:17 AM (BDZWU)

380 You folks are cruel :-)

I keep telling the family that anything near a beach should be considered a temporary house.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 11:18 AM (MktOj)

381 If HPV vaccine can prevent anal warts, someone please spray some around the HQ to keep the trolls at bay.

Posted by: Roy at August 11, 2016 11:18 AM (VndSC)

382 I had wondered if disease could actually be spread by the air gun vaccines, don't they line you up with others and use the same gun? I don't really remember it well as I hid in the bathroom at school when that day came as I saw other children crying.

also goes for military, do they clean guns between injections?

Posted by: PP at August 11, 2016 11:18 AM (A1MMY)

383 One of the world's most popular high-end teas is Oriental Beauty. It requires the help of the leafhopper insect, which nibbles the leaves, shocking them and forcing the plant to send tasty nutrients to repair the damage caused by the bugs. Will that count in your list of interesting hoppers?

Posted by: Smallish Bees at August 11, 2016 11:11 AM (yjhOG)


So it sounds like the function of this insect could be duplicated by a horticulturalist/farmer using tiny scissors to make incisions in the leaves. Oughta get the juice flowing just fine.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:18 AM (BqKyT)

384 off- ya stinky sock

Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:19 AM (A1MMY)

385 370 OK folks. Nice areas close to the beach NC or SC? I need a condo to escape to. Something that won't wash away on the next Sandy.

Any suggestions?
Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 11:14 AM (MktOj)

Sullivan's Island, SC. It's a few minutes away from Charleston. Can't go wrong there.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 11, 2016 11:19 AM (p6cXT)

386 >>If HPV vaccine can prevent anal warts, someone please spray some around the HQ to keep the trolls at bay.



Go ahead and douse Hope Solo's phone with that, too.

Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 11:20 AM (c1srJ)

387 If HPV vaccine can prevent anal warts, someone please spray some around the HQ to keep the trolls at bay.

Posted by: Roy at August 11, 2016 11:18 AM (VndSC)



Sure, but that does nothing to prevent the links to Hope Solo's pics.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2016 11:20 AM (TOk1P)

388 I was born in '60 and I remember the neighborhood kid with leg braces.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2016 11:16 AM (mgbwf)


That was me. Only now, in my old age, I only have to wear one of them.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:20 AM (BqKyT)

389 Sadly, I'm older than many of you and recall the polio epidemic of 1952. My parents did not allow me to go *anywhere*. They even had a barber come by the house to give haircuts.
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The first summer when I was home in Minnesota was that gosh-awful polio epidemic they had there. We admitted 464 proven cases of polio just at the University Hospital, which is unbelievable. And this was a very severe paralytic form. Maybe two or three hours after a lot of these kids would come in with a stiff neck or a fever, they'd be dead. It was unbelievable. It was just loads of people that came in, sometimes with only a fever but usually a headache and a little stiffness in the neck. And just absolutely terrified. At the height of the epidemic, the people in Minneapolis were so frightened that there was nobody in the restaurants. There was practically no traffic, the stores were empty. It just was considered a feat of bravado almost to go out and mingle in public. A lot of people just took up and moved away, went to another city.

— Richard Aldrich, M.D.
quoted in A Paralyzing Fear

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:20 AM (9mTYi)

390 Someone mentioned Beaufort SC. Then I go to Google and it shows a house on stilts.

Yeah that was a buzz killer for me.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 11:21 AM (MktOj)

391 my aunt had polio. she survived but was lame .

Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:21 AM (A1MMY)

392
These days, a 'crisis' is when there is no cell coverage, or a 'safe space' is not available.

*spits*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:21 AM (9mTYi)

393 The librarian in my elementary school was a polio survivor. She had a metal brace on one leg.
I loved her - she was always so nice to me because I was a "voracious reader" in her words.

Posted by: @votermom's phone at August 11, 2016 11:22 AM (xCv1X)

394 Go ahead and douse Hope Solo's phone with that, too.
Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 11:20 AM (c1srJ)


garrett, is this "Hope Solo" entity of which you speak worth investigating? In the interests of keeping up with Popular Culture?

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:22 AM (d6TTt)

395 Marcus, Carolina Beach, NC is nice. Small and quiet. It's near Wilmington.

Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 11:22 AM (805dc)

396 Now it's dark.

Posted by: Frank Booth at August 11, 2016 11:22 AM (Jk+3L)

397 Latest fad alternative medicine thing in sports. They showed how it was done the other night, a cup is placed on the area needing treatment and a vacuum pump is placed onto the cup and attached via a valve. Sits there for a few minutes and creates enough suction that blood flows into the area(and tissue experiences microruptures, which is why you see the circular bruises). Supposedly creates enough blood flow to recover muscles quicker.

The bruises last for almost two weeks.....

Rowdy Gaines was asked if he wished it was available when he was diving competitively and he said no, he wouldn't have done it anyway, LOL.

Posted by: Jen the original
****

The placebo effect in action.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfing at August 11, 2016 11:22 AM (u0kqM)

398 Good excerpt Mike Hammer, puts it in perspective.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 11, 2016 11:23 AM (TnUKj)

399 >>is this "Hope Solo" entity of which you speak worth investigating? In the interests of keeping up with Popular Culture?


NO!

I haven't refreshed my memory, but I distinctly recall her butthole being a 'Well, I can't un-see that!', moment.

Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 11:23 AM (c1srJ)

400 Sullivan's Island, SC. It's a few minutes away from Charleston. Can't go wrong there.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty
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Right.
After Hugo : http://preview.tinyurl.com/j7c623q

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:24 AM (9mTYi)

401 A Fortune 500 companys foundation has created a fund in partnership with other organizations that is dedicated to funding a group affiliated with the Black Lives Matter movement, according to recent reports.

The Ford Foundation is investing in the Black-Led Movement Fund, reports Fortune. The Black-Led Movement Fund was created by the Ford Foundation in partnership with the Borealis Philanthropy, Movement Strategy Center, and Benedict Consulting.

According to its website, the Black-Led Movement Fund seeks to support philanthropic and field-building activities that strengthen the next generation of social justice leaders.

Weasel Zippers

Fuck Ford. Ya know they give zippo to UJA

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 11, 2016 11:25 AM (zp+j1)

402 Didn't the old "barber-surgeons" do that vacuum thing (called cupping) along with bleedings.Yeah,seems legit.

Posted by: steevy at August 11, 2016 11:25 AM (fA75F)

403 That was me. Only now, in my old age, I only have to wear one of them.
Posted by: OregonMuse



Really, OM? Did you have polio?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2016 11:25 AM (mgbwf)

404 is this "Hope Solo" entity of which you speak worth investigating? In the interests of keeping up with Popular Culture?


NO!

I haven't refreshed my memory, but I distinctly recall her butthole being a 'Well, I can't un-see that!', moment.

Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 11:23 AM (c1srJ)



The phrase "gaping maw" is appropriate.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2016 11:25 AM (TOk1P)

405 Good excerpt Mike Hammer, puts it in perspective.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat
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Parents were scared out of their wits.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:26 AM (9mTYi)

406 Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:19 AM

Willow! How are you and the young'uns-to-be doing?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2016 11:26 AM (zzUT1)

407 Crap, I wasted all my good stuff on the News of the Day thread and everyone's over here.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 11, 2016 11:26 AM (ECJ+C)

408 Baltimore Police Allowed Back Into Schools Guns Will Be Locked In A Safe During the School Day



Hall monitors in a police uniform.

Weasel ZIppers

???? And the Police agree to this? Shame on them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 11, 2016 11:26 AM (zp+j1)

409
404 is this "Hope Solo" entity of which you speak worth investigating? In the interests of keeping up with Popular Culture?


NO!

I haven't refreshed my memory, but I distinctly recall her butthole being a 'Well, I can't un-see that!', moment.

Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 11:23 AM (c1srJ)



The phrase "gaping maw" is appropriate.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2016 11:25 AM (TOk1P)








And "leathery"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2016 11:27 AM (xxSK3)

410 Whoa. Nothing left after Hugo.

Carolina Beach looks nice. Lots of properties.

Thanks folks.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 11:27 AM (MktOj)

411 408 Baltimore Police Allowed Back Into Schools Guns Will Be Locked In A Safe During the School Day

I wouldn't bother going if I were them...

Posted by: donna at August 11, 2016 11:27 AM (O2RFr)

412 399 >>is this "Hope Solo" entity of which you speak worth investigating? In the interests of keeping up with Popular Culture?
NO!
I haven't refreshed my memory, but I distinctly recall her butthole being a 'Well, I can't un-see that!', moment.
Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 11:23 AM (c1srJ)

Ah. Well, then. I'll pass, thanks. Thanks for the heads up.

The newer porn is - disheartening, for the most part. Seems its like an Arms Race anymore. Keeps getting more bizarre.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:27 AM (d6TTt)

413 garrett, is this "Hope Solo" entity of which you speak worth investigating? In the interests of keeping up with Popular Culture?

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:22 AM (d6TTt)

NOOO!
Celebrate not keeping up with pop culture.

Posted by: JackS at August 11, 2016 11:28 AM (hgwL9)

414 Really, OM? Did you have polio?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2016 11:25 AM (mgbwf)


Yes. I was diagnosed with polio when I was 6 months old. My parents noticed I wasn't kicking the covers off of me when I was sleeping in my crib, so they took me in to the doctor who told them, your baby can't move his legs. They don't know how I got it, the only thing the doctors could figure was that my mother had it when she was pregnant with me.

She was asymptomatic, though.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:28 AM (BqKyT)

415 >>The phrase "gaping maw" is appropriate.


It gave me nightmares.

Couldn't eat at Arby's for months.

Posted by: Abby Wombach at August 11, 2016 11:28 AM (c1srJ)

416 So has Jane showed up today? She was so worried yesterday... I hope She contacted Her Doctor...

Posted by: donna at August 11, 2016 11:28 AM (O2RFr)

417 Duncan , the young ones are no more. adopted those tykes out after I realized my chatting at aces might have made them high risk.

Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:29 AM (A1MMY)

418 >>And "leathery"


She ain't from Crinth!

Posted by: Zombie Ricardo Montelbon at August 11, 2016 11:29 AM (c1srJ)

419 At the height of the epidemic, the people in Minneapolis were so frightened that there was nobody in the restaurants. There was practically no traffic, the stores were empty. It just was considered a feat of bravado almost to go out and mingle in public.

A lot of people just took up and moved away, went to another city.





Alternate title: How Epidemics Spread.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 11:30 AM (b0NwW)

420 Beaufort, sc is one of my favorite towns. We avoid myrtle beach and hilton head.

Posted by: nckate at August 11, 2016 11:30 AM (QvwhC)

421 The newer porn is - disheartening, for the most part. Seems its like an Arms Race anymore. Keeps getting more bizarre.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:27 AM (d6TTt)



Let me be the fist to recommend then, do NOT use the search term "arms race" at any of the popular pron websites.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2016 11:30 AM (TOk1P)

422 Corinth, dammit.

Ruined a perfectly good joke.

Posted by: Zombie Ricardo Montelbon at August 11, 2016 11:30 AM (c1srJ)

423 400 Sullivan's Island, SC. It's a few minutes away from Charleston. Can't go wrong there.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty
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Right.
After Hugo : http://preview.tinyurl.com/j7c623q
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:24 AM (9mTYi)

I have family on Mt. Pleasant. Last time I saw Sullivan's Island was 1998, and it was awesome.

Maybe one could buy cheap.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 11, 2016 11:31 AM (p6cXT)

424 Yes, because Carolina Beach never experiences hurricanes:
http://tinyurl.com/jsyzahe

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:31 AM (9mTYi)

425 420 Beaufort, sc is one of my favorite towns. We avoid myrtle beach and hilton head.

Do You believe the poll that has Hillary with in the margin of error in SC? I don't know what to think anymore...

Posted by: donna at August 11, 2016 11:31 AM (O2RFr)

426 417 Duncan , the young ones are no more. adopted those tykes out after I realized my chatting at aces might have made them high risk.

Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:29 AM (A1MMY)

Hey there willow! Long time, no see. You doing well? I took a little break from AoS, but I just can't quit you folks/morons/Horde.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:31 AM (d6TTt)

427 hope solo has no problem dropping a duece.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 11, 2016 11:31 AM (KP5rU)

428 WSJ today has a piece on Zika in Miami. Apparently a few of the infected had no contact with the "known to be infected" neighborhood where most of the patients are from. The authorities are counting on the fact that the mosquito that carries the virus has a "500 foot flight range" to limit the spread. Not sure they understand how this all works.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 11, 2016 11:32 AM (2cS/G)

429 Ruined a perfectly good joke.

Posted by: Zombie Ricardo Montelbon

Heh. I thought Zombie Ricardo had developed a speech impediment.

Bwainsssss

Posted by: Bruce at August 11, 2016 11:32 AM (8ikIW)

430 Wait a minute. That seems to be training me, not him.
Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 11:09 AM


This is the preparatory phase, where you establish trust and build rapport.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2016 11:32 AM (zzUT1)

431 tubal, hi-hi, good to see your nic, life is rough, spouse could really use prayers, other than that. i'm doing ok.

you?

Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:33 AM (A1MMY)

432 Yes. I was diagnosed with polio when I was 6 months old.


I feel like I should say something but everything I've thought of is wrong, so...mumble.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2016 11:34 AM (mgbwf)

433 428

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 11, 2016 11:32 AM (2cS/G)

This is what I was saying during the ebola scare. Look ebola probably wasn't the threat people were panicking about, BUT someday there would almost certainly be a pandemic outbreak of something in the future. And the same assholes who look like they don't know what the fuck they're doing with ebola would be trying to face a real threat.

Now look at us, we're fucked.

Posted by: the real ch3 at August 11, 2016 11:34 AM (IG5KL)

434 Marcus, are you looking to buy a condo at the beach? Our friends have one in Carolina Beach. It's very nice, nothing fancy, older building, solid masonry. Right in the beach. It's not nearly as expensive there as at the more crowded, hipper places.

Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 11:34 AM (805dc)

435 donna, i'm not sure what to believe with the polls. on one hand sc can be uber conservative but on the other lots of people have moved into the coastal areas from up north.

Posted by: nckate at August 11, 2016 11:34 AM (QvwhC)

436 412 399 >>is this "Hope Solo" entity of which you speak worth investigating? In the interests of keeping up with Popular Culture?
NO!
I haven't refreshed my memory, but I distinctly recall her butthole being a 'Well, I can't un-see that!', moment.
Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 11:23 AM (c1srJ)

Ah. Well, then. I'll pass, thanks. Thanks for the heads up.

The newer porn is - disheartening, for the most part. Seems its like an Arms Race anymore. Keeps getting more bizarre.
Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:27 AM (d6TTt)

Roxy Raye was brought up last night. I googled her.

She makes the most delightful cupcakes.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 11, 2016 11:34 AM (p6cXT)

437 Whoops, they are on the beach, not in it.

Anyway, not sure if you were looking to rent a place for vacation, or to buy.

Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 11:35 AM (805dc)

438 Beaufort, sc is one of my favorite towns. We avoid myrtle beach and hilton head.
Posted by: nckate at August 11, 2016 11:30 AM (QvwhC)

Mine also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 11, 2016 11:35 AM (zp+j1)

439 Word is that Hopper was inspired to do Nighthawks by what he saw in NYC on the night of Dec 7/8. People were up late and pensive. The diner in the scene was in the West Village in the teens.

Years ago I saw the original right next to American Gothic (the old timey farmer and wife with the pitchfork) at the Art Institute in Chicago. Great one two punch of Americana

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 11, 2016 11:35 AM (N7aj/)

440 Seems its like an Arms Race anymore.
Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:27 AM


That's hurtful.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at August 11, 2016 11:36 AM (zzUT1)

441 431 tubal, hi-hi, good to see your nic, life is rough, spouse could really use prayers, other than that. i'm doing ok.

you?
Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:33 AM (A1MMY)

Pretty good, other than outing myself as a former alcoholic and druggie in this very post. All based on a lack of patience and reading comprehension.
Ah well, I'm a survivor, didn't get here any other way.
Sorry about the bad patch you are in.

My prayers usually seem to bounce off, but I'll sure have a go for your sake.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:36 AM (d6TTt)

442 That was Dec 7/8 1941

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 11, 2016 11:36 AM (N7aj/)

443 OK folks. Nice areas close to the beach NC or SC? I need a condo to escape to. Something that won't wash away on the next Sandy.
Any suggestions?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 11:14 AM (MktOj)

If you're thinking about buying a place, IMHO don't. Just rent.

Posted by: JackS at August 11, 2016 11:37 AM (hgwL9)

444
Years ago I saw the original right next to American Gothic (the old timey farmer and wife with the pitchfork) at the Art Institute in Chicago. Great one two punch of Americana

Hopper is one of My favorite artists...

Posted by: donna at August 11, 2016 11:37 AM (O2RFr)

445 I just started watching Marco Polo on Netflix. The Kublai Khan was receiving some cupping treatments after being poisoned by some ninja dudes with golden scorpion venom.

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 11:38 AM (1H9ox)

446 421 The newer porn is - disheartening, for the most part. Seems its like an Arms Race anymore. Keeps getting more bizarre.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:27 AM (d6TTt)


Porn is acting on our culture like an addicting drug. We need more and more of it to get the same high.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:38 AM (BqKyT)

447 tubal, it's easy to fall down, getting back up is where we shine.

glad you got up. and thanks for prayers.

Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:38 AM (A1MMY)

448 Willow - Prayers and thoughts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:39 AM (9mTYi)

449 Regarding HPV: Males do tend to become carriers, however I *think* one of the long term effects in males is sterility. I might be wrong, though. I think it's a good vaccine to get. The medical establishment sold it to parents in probably the most condescending way possible, though. It's like all that training I got about working well with patients and keeping physician paternalism in check goes out the window depending on what group is likely to be uncomfortable with a new treatment. That the AAFP and AAP are in bed with the left and tend to manipulate studies in their interest and also refuse to address certain groups concerns doesn't help matters.

Evangelical Christians offended? --> STFU Snake Handlers! WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU! And if you don't do what we say we'll take your kids! MUHAHAHAHA!!!

Blacks, Gays, Women offended? --> Here, write whatever guideline you want, it's totes cool!

Posted by: Jackal at August 11, 2016 11:39 AM (Lyh9/)

450 If you're thinking about buying a place, IMHO don't. Just rent.
Posted by: JackS
-----------

My advice also. I grew up on the coast.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:40 AM (9mTYi)

451 ty Mike. He's a great man , worked really hard for our kids. I would like to see him have some reprieve at this point.

Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:40 AM (A1MMY)

452 Can someone explain to me why Hillary Clinton published an op ed in a major Utah paper? After being a reviled demographic for the left, and after the left painted Romney as a weirdo in 2012, it is bizarre this election cycle to suddenly be pandered to. Of course after the election we will return to being treaded like weirdo Jesus freaks they think we are.

"Exclusive: Hillary Clinton: What I have in common with Utah Leaders--religious freedom and the constitution."
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zu34rcl

Nevermind I think it was Hillary Clinton that said religions would have to change. Don't read the comments, it makes you despair for gullible Utah idiots/dems, but I repeat myself.

Posted by: LizLem at August 11, 2016 11:40 AM (hvf9s)

453 Porn is acting on our culture like an addicting drug. We need more and more of it to get the same high.
....
You're right. I'm so old that I remember when the term "sexual relations" included BJs and cigar dildoing. But that time has passed....

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 11:40 AM (1H9ox)

454 "In all, it's worth having the vaccine. I do agree with Seamus though, the bigger ethical problem is the dishonesty with which it gets sold, and the fact that parents are being kept out of the decision making process."


Got it, but I don't understand why a parent wouldn't want their kid protected from any disease. Is the idea that "my kid doesn't need to be protected from a sexually transmitted disease because I'm such an awesome parent" the reason? You would not only have to parent your own kid assiduously up to marriage but whomever they potentially have sex with throughout their lifetime. Getting it for them early, or the push for that, I have to assume is that many do start having sex early, so the standard has to be earlier than later if you want to stem a public health threat. Secondly, and this is from someone with a 24, 21, 18 and 12 year old, you have a lot more control earlier. Once they hit 18 they can just "not want a shot" or not understand.

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 11:40 AM (eSQgj)

455
Edward Hopper is probably my favorite painter. When asked what his inspiration was he said (paraphrasing), "all I ever wanted to do was paint light on a wall."

He sure did, big time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 11, 2016 11:41 AM (9P3OG)

456 Can someone explain to me why Hillary Clinton published an op ed in a major Utah paper?
...
Simple. T's road to the White House is damn near impossible without Utah. Strange but true.

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 11:41 AM (1H9ox)

457 I feel like I should say something but everything I've thought of is wrong, so...mumble.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 11, 2016 11:34 AM (mgbwf)


Nah, don't worry about it, I'm not some sort of "victim." I've been married for over 30 years, we have 3 grown children who are all grown up and doing very well, we own our own home, and I've been able to work all of my adult life in a profession (computers) where my physical shortcomings were not a disadvantage.

It is God who has given me this good life, and to Him I am very grateful.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:42 AM (BqKyT)

458 The authorities are counting on the fact that the mosquito that carries
the virus has a "500 foot flight range" to limit the spread.

Yeah, nobody told us that.

Posted by: Mosquitos at August 11, 2016 11:42 AM (hqZPQ)

459 Art related: CBD, would it be possible to get some Caspar David Friedrich up ins one of these threads? I mean, yeah, bleak, but epic bleak.

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 11, 2016 11:43 AM (eXSOZ)

460 I think porn can screw up people using it, need more thrills than real lifef/lovers/spouses intimacy can offer.
jmho

Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:44 AM (A1MMY)

461 Nevermind I think it was Hillary Clinton that said religions would have to change.
------------

The things I value don't change. - Gen. Douglas MacArthur

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:44 AM (9mTYi)

462 Porn today is all lighting and ridiculous camera angles that make average dicks look big and big dicks look the size of baseball bats. The girls are all tatts and fake tits. They overact too, riding guys like a meth-crazed maniac.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 11:44 AM (SIwLd)

463

It is God who has given me this good life, and to Him I am very grateful.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:42 AM (BqKyT)

--------------

Beautifully put, OMuse.

Posted by: bluebell at August 11, 2016 11:45 AM (805dc)

464 456 Can someone explain to me why Hillary Clinton published an op ed in a major Utah paper?
...
Simple. T's road to the White House is damn near impossible without Utah. Strange but true.
Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 11:41 AM (1H9ox)


Either that, or the Dems are so confident that Trump is flaming out that they feel they can throw some money at a deep red state and who knows, they might peel off a few votes.

Back during the 1996 election, I used to hear pro-Clinton commercials on conservative talk radio. Same thing.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:45 AM (BqKyT)

465 She was asymptomatic, though.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:28 AM (BqKyT)


If someone in contact with you was treated with the weakened virus inoculation it could have been passed on to you as a normal infection. This is also possible as a second-hand infection that someone in contact with you got from someone else who had been inoculated.

I was under the impression that babies carried a fairly wide immunity from the mother's array of antibodies that lasts a while, but if your mom had never contacted Polio she may have lacked any antibodies to it to pass on.

A quick trawl shows the weakened virus method was the Sabin vaccine and the real issue was with "insufficiently weakened" virus, and possibly people with poor immune systems. Sabin's technique also had individuals shedding viral particles in their feces, which would infect other people, just as un-weakened Polio would, and would cause secondary immunity.

Did you recover the use of your legs?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2016 11:45 AM (ry34m)

466 Nah, don't worry about it, I'm not some sort of "victim."
----------

Plus, he gets to wear one of those spiffy book-pimp hats.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:46 AM (9mTYi)

467 "The authorities are counting on the fact that the mosquito that carries the virus has a "500 foot flight range" to limit the spread."

Thank goodness people don't move around.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at August 11, 2016 11:46 AM (dbxue)

468 Got it, but I don't understand why a parent wouldn't want their kid protected from any disease. Is the idea that "my kid doesn't need to be protected from a sexually transmitted disease because I'm such an awesome parent" the reason? You would not only have to parent your own kid assiduously up to marriage but whomever they potentially have sex with throughout their lifetime. Getting it for them early, or the push for that, I have to assume is that many do start having sex early, so the standard has to be earlier than later if you want to stem a public health threat. Secondly, and this is from someone with a 24, 21, 18 and 12 year old, you have a lot more control earlier. Once they hit 18 they can just "not want a shot" or not understand.

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 11:40 AM (eSQgj)


Agreed. While I would respect the right of parents to reject the vaccine for their teenage children, I would also think it's a foolish decision on their part.


Yes, I believe the word "foolish" is appropriate.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2016 11:46 AM (TOk1P)

469 454: Dagny, that's the main issue. And instead of addressing that concern, the media insulted and otherized the parents with those concerns, which just hardened their opposition. It doesn't help that the word "vaccine" has taken on a bad odor thanks to schmucks like John Edwards, Jenny McCarthy, and that shithead in the UK who wrote the paper linking the MMR to autism. Aforementioned shithead got stripped of his license recently because of fraud in that paper IIRC.

Posted by: Jackal at August 11, 2016 11:47 AM (Lyh9/)

470 It is God who has given me this good life, and to Him I am very grateful.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:42 AM (BqKyT)

Yeah, all my normal bullshitting aside, that's what I think too.
For me, it's a source of strength and reassurance to believe that God's in control, and no matter what we think down here, someone is driving the bus, and it's not my job.

Now back to being the garden- variety Moron.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:47 AM (d6TTt)

471 You're right. I'm so old that I remember when the term "sexual relations" included BJs and cigar dildoing. But that time has passed....

Posted by: ajmojo
- - - -

I found that the Pyramid or Perfecto were the best shapes, but what wrapper did you use?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2016 11:47 AM (r65B3)

472 460 I think porn can screw up people using it, need more thrills than real lifef/lovers/spouses intimacy can offer.
jmho
Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:44 AM (A1MMY)


Exactly right. And I know a couple of men who have abandoned their wives because the p0rn they were into was feeding them false information about what sexual relationships were like and so they grew dissatisfied with what they had.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:48 AM (BqKyT)

473 I asked earlier but has Jane showed up on any of the threads today?

Posted by: donna at August 11, 2016 11:49 AM (O2RFr)

474 My advice also. I grew up on the coast.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:40 AM (9mTYi)

One of my favorite places to go is the Outer Banks. First went there as kid in 1968. I go back every few years. So many places we/I stayed no longer exist due to the hurricanes.

Posted by: JackS at August 11, 2016 11:49 AM (hgwL9)

475 462 Porn today is all lighting and ridiculous camera angles that make average dicks look big and big dicks look the size of baseball bats. The girls are all tatts and fake tits. They overact too, riding guys like a meth-crazed maniac.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 11:44 AM (SIwLd)

Yep. That does not exist out there in the Free Range Real World.

Which is probably a Good Thing, as I think about it.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (d6TTt)

476 462 Porn today is all lighting and ridiculous camera angles that make average dicks look big and big dicks look the size of baseball bats. The girls are all tatts and fake tits. They overact too, riding guys like a meth-crazed maniac.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 11:44 AM (SIwLd)


"Boy the way Ron Jeremy came,
And Seka kept it in the frame,
porn back then was not at all lame,
Those were the days!!!!"


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (9P3OG)

477 I have three issues with Hillary Clinton, I like to call the 3M's, because it's alliterative. Medical, moral, and marital.

I don't think I have to explain them here. Just passing them along into the pubic domain.

Posted by: free range 'sorta' conservative but not 'true' conservative at August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (ZnIt3)

478 "And I know a couple of men who have abandoned their wives because the p0rn they were into was feeding them false information about what sexual relationships were like and so they grew dissatisfied with what they had."

Thankfully, women are completely immune to that, and don't get misled by "romance" novels st all.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (dbxue)

479 I was just perusing the Carolina Beach properties. Lots on inventory on the market.

Yeah I am looking at condos to buy.

I was looking at Beaufort SC also. That also keeps coming up.

I just need to get out of NY. First temporarily. Next permanent.

Yeah I'm under no illusions that there are no places that are safe close to the beach. I would like to go inland more. The family, not so much :-/

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (MktOj)

480 God's in control, and no matter what we think down here, someone is driving the bus, and it's not my job.
---------

“When you have laboriously accomplished your daily tasks, go to sleep in peace. God is awake.”
– Victor Hugo

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (9mTYi)

481 I found that the Pyramid or Perfecto were the best shapes, but what wrapper did you use?
...
Trojan.

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (1H9ox)

482 Exactly right. And I know a couple of men who have abandoned their wives because the p0rn they were into was feeding them false information about what sexual relationships were like and so they grew dissatisfied with what they had.



That's a two way street.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (b0NwW)

483 I'm so old I remember when I started college, I couldn't set foot on the campus until I received all of the vaccinations I missed out on growing up. I crawled to my dorm room bed and passed out from the "high."

Posted by: Fritz at August 11, 2016 11:51 AM (2Mnv1)

484 "I was under the impression that babies carried a fairly wide immunity from the mother's array of antibodies that lasts a while, but if your mom had never contacted Polio she may have lacked any antibodies to it to pass on."



They do, but the mom has to have immunity. I gave my 12 week old Chicken-pox because I had never had them. The first response of the medical community dopes when he got it was that he still needed a vaccine years later because his case wasn't "full" because he had my antibodies when he had it. I had to explain to them that when he had it, he didn't have any f-ing chicken pox antibodies because I didn't have ANY chicken-pox antibodies and that they should run a titer before giving him the vaccine. They did, at my insistence, arguing with me the whole time, and of course he had full immunity because he had had a full case of chicken pox.

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 11:51 AM (eSQgj)

485 Oregon muse, yes I also know of a couple that split for that reason. I know it has its use as some wives/spouses might be gatekeepers and not provide their spouses with what they need, but porn is a sad answer, and I'm sure it would likely make it impossible to repair that side of a relationship, or have reality based expectations of intimacy for future relationships

Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:51 AM (A1MMY)

486 Trojan.

Posted by: ajmojo
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Hard to light the damned thing afterwards though.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2016 11:52 AM (r65B3)

487 I was looking at Beaufort SC also. That also keeps coming up.
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I recall Beaufort as a sleepy little town. Everything was closed on Wednesday. Everything.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:52 AM (9mTYi)

488 A quick trawl shows the weakened virus method was the Sabin vaccine and the real issue was with "insufficiently weakened" virus, and possibly people with poor immune systems. Sabin's technique also had individuals shedding viral particles in their feces, which would infect other people, just as un-weakened Polio would, and would cause secondary immunity.

Did you recover the use of your legs?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2016 11:45 AM (ry34m)


Partially. I used to have to wear braces on both legs, but when I was aboutt 4 or 5 years old, I could do without one of them.

What complicated things was that I also have one of the 4 varieties of osteogenesis imperfecta (brittle bone disease), so I broke my leg a number of times as a yoot. Without that, I might have been able to have a more complete recovery.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:52 AM (BqKyT)

489 I have three issues with Hillary Clinton, I like to call the 3M's, because it's alliterative. Medical, moral, and marital.
...
Unfortunately, she has the ultimate weapon in response.
Menstruation...or Menopausal. Whichever, you pick. But you know what I mean.

Posted by: ajmojo at August 11, 2016 11:52 AM (1H9ox)

490 Posted by: Fritz at August 11, 2016 11:51 AM (2Mnv1)


My husband had to have the full range as an adult law student because his mother had no records and couldn't figure out how to find his records.

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 11:52 AM (eSQgj)

491 480 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (9mTYi)


6 million martyred Jews would beg to differ.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 11, 2016 11:52 AM (9P3OG)

492 446 421 The newer porn is - disheartening, for the most part. Seems its like an Arms Race anymore. Keeps getting more bizarre.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:27 AM (d6TTt)

Porn is acting on our culture like an addicting drug. We need more and more of it to get the same high.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:38 AM (BqKyT)

It is true. The trends in porn are ahead of the curve for the culture. Best example are girls that take pictures with their tongues out like they are getting ready or begging to get blasted in the face. Another example are the trends in cuckholding. I'm sure step siblings are banging each other by now and there step parents. Women teachers banging students

Porn died when Vivid lost the gold standard like Playboy. Now the gold atandarad is dictated by the internet, which really ruined porn.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 11, 2016 11:53 AM (p6cXT)

493 Posted by: LizLem at August 11, 2016 11:40 AM (hvf9s)

I read somewhere that the new schlub (can't remember his name Edmund something? not Muskie) the never Trump segment of Republican Party was put up to keep the 6 Utah electoral votes from Trump. Maybe Utah a possible for HRC.

Posted by: gracepc at August 11, 2016 11:53 AM (OU4q6)

494 >The medical establishment sold it to parents in probably the most condescending way possible, though.

Yes.

>Got it, but I don't understand why a parent wouldn't want their kid protected from any disease.

Vaccines have side effects. They don't recommend every vaccine for every population for that reason. Otherwise we'd all be getting unnecessary, potentially harmful shots. The benefits have to outweigh the costs.

Not that I'm against HPV, I just would have wanted more data to start with and I am more cautious about new things like this. In 30 years, I'd love to see the results.

Posted by: Lea at August 11, 2016 11:53 AM (lIU4e)

495 Chris Walken is the man. He put the fun in funerals in Undertaking Betty and had all the best lines in The Rundown. I've loved his work since The Dogs of War.

Posted by: Locke Common at August 11, 2016 11:53 AM (Mruaf)

496 anyhoo, what a topic.

Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:53 AM (A1MMY)

497 493 Posted by: gracepc at August 11, 2016 11:53 AM (OU4q6)


Well, Mr. Trump will shock everyone and take New York.

/s

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 11, 2016 11:54 AM (9P3OG)

498 That's a two way street.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (b0NwW)


That's true enough. But I believe the husband has the primary responsibility.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:54 AM (BqKyT)

499
Back to the shop.

Later, fellow babies.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 11, 2016 11:54 AM (9P3OG)

500 I get conflicting reports on younger people having sex. On the one hand I hear that sex is easy to get, it's no big deal , and everybody's always screwing everybody else. Blowjobs are like handshakes.

On the other, I hear they find sex boring and would rather play video games (guys) or shop (girls).

Which is it?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 11:56 AM (SIwLd)

501 Got it, but I don't understand why a parent wouldn't want their kid protected from any disease.
Posted by: dagny


*****


The desire to protect an individual from a particular disease hinges on the notion of certainty.

We deal with this uncertainty principle when it comes to requests for cardiac testing. I see parents who request (or demand) a certain test (e.g. echocardiogram) because they "just want to be sure". The practice of medicine however is based on probabilities. A simple medical history seeking symptoms or warning signs of a heart condition might reassure you with a 75% confidence level (made-up number for the sake of discussion). A physical examination listening for abnormal heart sounds might reassure you up to an 85% level of confidence. A chest X-ray and electrocardiogram might reassure you up to a 95% level. An echocardiogram might reassure you to a 98% level.

But just like Zeno's paradox, you cannot achieve a 100% degree of certainty in an uncertain world. And at each step in the sequential filtering process there is a cost (time, money, inconvenience) that must be born by somebody.

Point of diminishing returns.

The same principle applies to vaccines, and HPV is way down the scale in terms of confidence level compared to MMR/DPT, and others.

Whose decision should it be?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 11:56 AM (wPiJc)

502 Chris Walken is the man. He put the fun in funerals in Undertaking Betty and had all the best lines in The Rundown. I've loved his work since The Dogs of War.
Posted by: Locke Common at August 11, 2016 11:53 AM (Mruaf)


Love the guy. For me he's like Robert Duvall quality.
Watched the videos of Walken dancing. Amazing stuff.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:57 AM (d6TTt)

503 494: I agree. I feel the same about the Chickenpox vaccine, which got added to the required schedule via some very shady statistical work. Once you strip all the BS away, it only saves the caregiver a few days off of work. That's it! A shitload of cash and research spent with only that to show for it.

Posted by: Jackal at August 11, 2016 11:57 AM (Lyh9/)

504 479 I was just perusing the Carolina Beach properties. Lots on inventory on the market.

Yeah I am looking at condos to buy.

I was looking at Beaufort SC also. That also keeps coming up.

I just need to get out of NY. First temporarily. Next permanent.

Yeah I'm under no illusions that there are no places that are safe close to the beach. I would like to go inland more. The family, not so much :-/
Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (MktOj

Mt Pleasant, SC. Close to Charleston. Some of the best schools in the country. Charleston was voted recently the best place in the world to live.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 11, 2016 11:58 AM (p6cXT)

505 On the other, I hear they find sex boring and would rather play video games (guys) or shop (girls).

Which is it?
Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2016 11:56 AM (SIwLd)

Kinda tend to believe it. Fantasy is probably endless and boundless, whereas participatory sex requires some level of engagement and effort. Don't think that's a strong drive anymore.

Posted by: tubal at August 11, 2016 11:59 AM (d6TTt)

506 472 460 I think porn can screw up people using it, need more thrills than real lifef/lovers/spouses intimacy can offer.
jmho
Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:44 AM (A1MMY)

Exactly right. And I know a couple of men who have abandoned their wives because the p0rn they were into was feeding them false information about what sexual relationships were like and so they grew dissatisfied with what they had.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:48 AM (BqKyT)

My ex brother in law was a pron addict and after he brought back a Malaysian whore from a business trip and they got divorced, I was amazed at what he'd been having my sister do for decades. It wasn't "sex," it wasn't intimacy, it was more sport. I don't really know how to describe it.


I had always wondered why she felt compelled to always always be dolled up in thongs and 5 in heels, etc. It was like their entire marriage was based on a porn fantasy. For those of you who think that sounds good, it's not and is a real unattractive gross 'look' on some 60 year old old goat who depends on her income for his weed and fast cars.

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 11:59 AM (eSQgj)

507 485 Oregon muse, yes I also know of a couple that split for that reason. I know it has its use as some wives/spouses might be gatekeepers and not provide their spouses with what they need, but porn is a sad answer, and I'm sure it would likely make it impossible to repair that side of a relationship, or have reality based expectations of intimacy for future relationships

Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 11:51 AM (A1MMY)


Right. The husband needs to understand his wife and make adjustments accordingly. But also the wife needs to make similar adjustments. It's all a part of getting to know and love one another so the marriage will be a happy one. And it doesn't happen overnight, it takes years.

A lot of crap thinking also comes in from "romance" books and movies where a couple falls in love and everything just sort of magically meshes together perfectly without effort.

It takes a lot more work than that.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 11:59 AM (BqKyT)

508 To any users of porn who thinks that porn use isn't addictive, try going 30 days without it.

Posted by: josephistan at August 11, 2016 11:59 AM (7HtZB)

509 6 million martyred Jews would beg to differ.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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Oh, well, many millions more in various upheavals.

I don't even understand why I have done some of the things that I have done, let alone understanding why others do what they do. I certainly am not going to imagine that I understand why God has done what he has done.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 11, 2016 11:59 AM (9mTYi)

510 >>That's a two way street


We're never going to escape Hope Solo, are we?

Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 12:00 PM (c1srJ)

511 Polio is a terrible disease, and I remember dad talking about it. I also had a couple of friends who's fathers had it, one was very stiff and the other had a withered leg.

I have great reservations about how the development and testing was done, however.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2016 12:00 PM (ry34m)

512 I was looking at Beaufort SC also. That also keeps coming up.

I just need to get out of NY. First temporarily. Next permanent.

Yeah I'm under no illusions that there are no places that are safe close to the beach. I would like to go inland more. The family, not so much :-/
Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2016 11:50 AM (MktOj)


Beaufort SC is very Military Friendly. Is between MCRD Parris Island and MCAS Beaufort.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 11, 2016 12:00 PM (zp+j1)

513 >Point of diminishing returns.
The same principle applies to vaccines, and HPV is way down the scale in terms of confidence level compared to MMR/DPT, and others.
Whose decision should it be?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 11:56 AM (wPiJc)

Exactly. I am very pro-vaccine, one of the few true public health success stories.

But I still need to see the data.

Posted by: Lea at August 11, 2016 12:00 PM (lIU4e)

514 They do, but the mom has to have immunity. I gave my 12 week old Chicken-pox because I had never had them. The first response of the medical community dopes when he got it was that he still needed a vaccine years later because his case wasn't "full" because he had my antibodies when he had it. I had to explain to them that when he had it, he didn't have any f-ing chicken pox antibodies because I didn't have ANY chicken-pox antibodies and that they should run a titer before giving him the vaccine. They did, at my insistence, arguing with me the whole time, and of course he had full immunity because he had had a full case of chicken pox.
Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 11:51 AM (eSQgj)

Jean Dodds has been working in immunology with dogs and other animals for years and has largely been responsible for the AVMA finally accepting a 3 year vaccination booster protocol instead of the yearly.

Read up on how vaccines are developed and approved. The FDA only requires challenge studies to prove the effiicacy of a vaccine last a year. After that, there is no scientific determination for how long immunity lasts, and how protective a level of titer is. Because there is no money in researching that kind of interest.

So that is where, at least in animals, we had the "take your dog in for annual vaccination" meme that became the standard of care, and was legislated in many states to be required of anyone boarding a dog/cat, showing, etc.

Lots of information on her website. Not an antivaxer by any stretch.

http://www.hemopet.org/education/jean-dodds-veterinarian.html

Posted by: Jen the original at August 11, 2016 12:01 PM (Vee9K)

515 Damn. Willowed again. Ace is awake.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 11, 2016 12:02 PM (BqKyT)

516 Oregon muse, yes marriage is a lot of work takes two, but is worth it with two engaged partners.

Posted by: willow at August 11, 2016 12:02 PM (A1MMY)

517 501: Ultimately, the issue with HPV is that it was sold to parents very poorly and that waiting till 18 to give it is problematic because the kids may well already have contracted the diseases, making the vaccine useless. In theory universal vaccination could provide enough herd immunity to cut down on Cervical Cancer rates. However, confirmatory data won't be available for decades, so it's just theory.

Posted by: Jackal at August 11, 2016 12:02 PM (Lyh9/)

518 at August 11, 2016 11:57 AM (Lyh9/)


Yeah, but I got it at 28 and I had a new born. I think I was naturally immune until I was run-down as hell. Picked it up in the grocery store b/c that's the only place I had been. I was never so sick. It's really miserable for adults.

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 12:03 PM (eSQgj)

519 510 >>That's a two way street


We're never going to escape Hope Solo, are we?
Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2016 12:00 PM (c1srJ)

[Golf clap for successfully crossing the streams]

Posted by: joncelli, Providing the Traditional Responses at August 11, 2016 12:03 PM (RD7QR)

520 There were two, maybe three pics of Hope Solo that were ok. The others, well....I see them in my nightmares.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW- Skeet Surfing at August 11, 2016 12:05 PM (+aCe4)

521 Whose decision should it be?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 11:56 AM (wPiJc)

As a parent, I have to think about what the alternative would be. Could I have protected my child from a possible eventuality, even a remote one, with minimal risk?

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2016 12:07 PM (eSQgj)

522 Hillary may be targeting Utah because of that Mormon spoiler candidate and because of Mitt Romney trying once again to grudge fuck Trump.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 11, 2016 12:11 PM (r1fLd)

523 Could I have protected my child from a possible eventuality, even a remote one, with minimal risk?


Posted by: dagny


*****

Agreed.

The challenge is knowing how to calculate how "remote" the eventuality and how "minimal" the risk. That's a touch calculation, even for thoughtful people.



I also think the Gell-Mann amnesia effect should be kept in mind when considering "expert" advice from governmental or quasi-governmental groups.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 11, 2016 12:14 PM (wPiJc)

524 523: F--k, do I ever hate Hate HAAAATE biostats!

Posted by: Jackal at August 11, 2016 12:16 PM (Lyh9/)

525 The source of the leak is reportedly Clinton's closest aide, Huma Abedin.

Posted by: Tami at August 11, 2016 10:18 AM (Enq6K)

Too good to be true. And the 4Chan sourcing? Never true.

Posted by: troyriser at August 11, 2016 12:32 PM (OGbEB)

526 Anybody see Dennis in "The American Friend"?
Long overlooked Hopper gem.

Posted by: changes at August 11, 2016 12:35 PM (e1eKc)

527 Hopper was killer in Blue Velvet

Posted by: Patrick Henry at August 11, 2016 12:57 PM (wT60j)

528 The Walken-Hopper scene is imo one of, if not the greatest movie-stealing cameo of all time. It's certainly my personal favorite or close to it.

Both hall-of-fame actors are basically in that one scene, although Hopper does another scene when Clarence and Alabama come to visit him, and Walken/Hopper absolutely grand theft with what is otherwise still a pretty kick-ass flick.

Walken is determined to kill Hopper, but knows he wont get any info out of Hopper in the process. Hopper knows he's going to be killed and is equally determined not to give up his son to the mob.

The small but decisive parts played by Brad Pitt, Gary Oldman and a pre-Sopranos James Gandolfini also threaten to steal the film but the "Sicilian scene" tops them all, although I use the line "motherfuckin' Charlie Bronson" pretty much every day.

Posted by: md at August 11, 2016 02:14 PM (uKJIC)

529 So *that's* what Mary Jane rottencrotch looks like. Looks like her panties *are* pink!

Posted by: WaitingForMartel at August 11, 2016 03:04 PM (BYSrJ)

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