Wednesday Morning News Dump (8/3/16) [Mis. Hum.]

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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 07:54 AM (9P3OG)

2 Yo!

Posted by: KWDreaming at August 03, 2016 07:54 AM (vvQF4)

3 Looks like MU agrees with me, Huslkamp is a conservative.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 07:54 AM (mpXpK)

4 g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 03, 2016 07:55 AM (ZQfW9)

5
Levin utterly destroys SCOAMF last night on radio and Levin TV about his interference in the election by calling Trump "unqualified."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 07:55 AM (9P3OG)

6
Unfortunately, Trump on an interview with Sturart Varney promises to double Hilary's proposal with close to $1 trillion for "infrastructure."

Ugh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 07:56 AM (9P3OG)

7 Only under the Choom has the government become so corrupt when they active teach foreigners how to break out laws and get away with it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 07:56 AM (mpXpK)

8 LOL, where is the red line? Just another Obama lie.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 07:57 AM (mpXpK)

9
Very disgusted and disheartened at losing Tim Huelskamp in the House.

One more voice of sanity and reason silenced by the Chamber of Crony Crooks.

Let's see if Florida Morons can help put a win on the board for Dan Bongino.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 07:57 AM (9P3OG)

10 Unfortunately J. J. You are the only one of a hand full of people who watch/listen to Levine

Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 03, 2016 07:57 AM (voOPb)

11 George Takei: " Things are really Tanking for Trumps campaign"...links to Cuban's endorsement of Hillary....yeah, thanks George for that insight...

Posted by: KWDreaming at August 03, 2016 07:59 AM (vvQF4)

12 G'mornin' Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 03, 2016 07:59 AM (gUoN4)

13 J.J. Sefton,

Regrettably, the relentless negative advertising and the lack of a Farm Bureau endorsement doomed Tim Huelskamp in the Big First of Kansas.

Even in Kansas the media has a way of turning out good people and putting worthless shills in.
Tim still is a good man, and I wish him well.

In my conversations with him I found a public servant that gets it, and who was into large picture thinking with true public service and representing his constituents.

The bad drive out the good, and I blame the MAIM (Mainstream Agit-Prop and Indoctrination Media). He was painted to be something he was not.

I did the best I could, and helped make the total closer than it could have been.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 03, 2016 08:00 AM (hyuyC)

14 Love all of the Chicago burns obamacare news.

Posted by: Draki at August 03, 2016 08:00 AM (lqGdC)

15
Speaking of Levin, very good interview with Daniel Horowitz about his new book "Stolen Sovereignty."

http://superstore.wnd.com/Stolen-Sovereignty-Hardcover-Daniel-Horowitz

To wit, even if we elect judges out the wazoo for the next 20 years, the judiciary is completely screwed up.

BUT - Congress does have the power to reign them in under Article 3. And that should be a focus going forward. Good thing we have the GOP on our side!

/s

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:00 AM (9P3OG)

16 See? Here's the red line! (Points to red line crudely marked on his lower back, with arrow pointed to moist, worn-out bunghole.)

Posted by: Naked Jay Vee Obama at August 03, 2016 08:01 AM (Jh20h)

17 So when did the Olympics become open to professional millionaire athletes?

I thought it was for amateurs to build international fellowship through sport? Except for the East German team, of course.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 03, 2016 08:01 AM (EZebt)

18 Very disgusted and disheartened at losing Tim Huelskamp in the House.

One more voice of sanity and reason silenced by the Chamber of Crony Crooks.

Let's see if Florida Morons can help put a win on the board for Dan Bongino.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 07:57 AM (9P3OG)

I was in Kansas last week, the ads against Huelskamp were relentless. Apparently his biggest sin: not sucking up to farmers.

Everybody wants to suck the government teet.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2016 08:01 AM (Pz4pT)

19 Good morning Horde. Just another day in post-Constitutional America. Try your best to have a good day, okay?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 03, 2016 08:02 AM (RD7QR)

20 13 Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 03, 2016 08:00 AM (hyuyC)

I've been following him over the past few years and have heard him on the radio. He impresses mightily.
Glad he's one of the good guys.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:02 AM (9P3OG)

21 "Let's see if Florida Morons can help put a win on the board for Dan Bongino. "

While I greatly admire Dan, I remember supporting his political run here in Marylandistan two years ago.

It could have went better.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 03, 2016 08:02 AM (ptqRm)

22 Ugh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 07:56 AM (9P3OG)

I'm not expecting anything from Trump if he gets elected, the only reason I'm even voting for him is in the hope that I might get to see Hillary's head explode if she loses, other than that, it's going to be a crappy four years of hoping we get a better candidate next time.

Posted by: spypeach at August 03, 2016 08:03 AM (nyYhO)

23 10 Unfortunately J. J. You are the only one of a hand full of people who watch/listen to Levine
Posted by: Mis. Hum. at August 03, 2016 07:57 AM (voOPb)

Who's Levine? I listen to Levin!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:03 AM (9P3OG)

24 Empty room tax. That is the kind of insane shit you get with socialism.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 08:03 AM (mpXpK)

25 In Missouri, the Democrat, Mission Continues guy won the Republican Governor's race.

Yay.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2016 08:03 AM (Pz4pT)

26 its bad enough that CNN/NBC/ABC/CBS are burying the iranian arms for hostage crime but Ace?

Posted by: Avi at August 03, 2016 08:03 AM (wwH1X)

27 And so it begins. While reading the article about the park service destroying a historic building, I noticed they had an article about incest and how it shouldn't be considered wrong because you know....love.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 03, 2016 08:05 AM (Ee2nz)

28 While it's devastating on its own that Obama paid Iran that ransom for
the 4 Americans, he had freakin leverage in that moment: he could have
told Iran we would stop all negotiation of the "deal" until they were
released. At this point it should be obvious to all that he's sided with
Iran. Guess this explains why his post-presidential DC house is within
100 ft or so of the Iranian embassy?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2016 08:05 AM (NOIQH)

29 Morning!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 03, 2016 08:05 AM (UpGcq)

30 26 its bad enough that CNN/NBC/ABC/CBS are burying the iranian arms for hostage crime but Ace?
Posted by: Avi at August 03, 2016 08:03 AM (wwH1X)

Patience. The Ewok doesn't stir until late morning at earliest.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 03, 2016 08:05 AM (RD7QR)

31 22 Posted by: spypeach at August 03, 2016 08:03 AM (nyYhO)

Agreed. But it's too bad his instinct is still big government is good; it's just badly managed.

If he hammered away on the failure of Hillary and Obama the unqualified just on the economy, he'd win impressively.

Pivot and pound, Mr. Trump.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:05 AM (9P3OG)

32 6
Unfortunately, Trump on an interview with Sturart Varney promises to double Hilary's proposal with close to $1 trillion for "infrastructure."

Ugh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 07:56 AM (9P3OG)

Infrastructure is a republican issue.

As a party and as conservatives, we should all support intensive infrastructure programs throughout the country.

The only thing we need to change is the value we get for our dollar. Eliminating rules and regulations, firing the bureaucracy, using common sense, going for quality, ending fraud, etc. will be job one for a new president.

Good infrastructure is essential for free enterprise and expansion of the economy.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 08:05 AM (Zs4uk)

33 my attorney general who is running for gov will not help with the voter id case here in NC. i liken that to the oft divorced hillbilly clerk in KY who couldn't do her job because of gay marriage being legal. where is the media outcry against cooper for not doing his job? oh, yeah. democrat.

Posted by: nckate at August 03, 2016 08:08 AM (9Pufo)

34 In other local news, The Baltimore County Council voted agains adopting the County Executives bill to strip the Voluntary component from the federal housing voucher program participation requirements here in the county.

This would have required any residential home owner who wished to rent their property to participate in the Housing Voucher Program. Unlike the actual Federal rules for the program, which makes the participation voluntary on the part of the property owner.

All part of a Federal Suit settlement which the County Executive signed off on without Council input or support.
Mostly in support of his expected effort to run against Governor Larry Hogan (R) in the next election.

Only one of the seven Councilpersons voted to approve the legislation.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 03, 2016 08:08 AM (ptqRm)

35 Tea Party GOP Rep loses primary

The gateway pundit headlined this as a neverTrump versus proTrump analysis. Saying the proTrump won. The argument is very weak.

The Wichita Eagle paper was tgp's source.

First duel between Huelskamp, Marshall shows contrast in political approach

http://bit.ly/28X9tR1

But Marshall positioned himself as a "peacemaker," someone who can reach across the aisle. In contrast, Huelskamp emphasized his unwillingness to waiver on his views.

Marshall, a physician from Great Bend, talked about examples of collaboration from his community leadership positions.

Huelskamp emphasized his disagreements with former House Speaker John Boehner as an example of his fixed ideals.

Here's the bit about Trump

Both candidates made it clear they support Trump and vehemently oppose Clinton. But they offered contrasting approaches to a Trump presidency.

Marshall: "I will support the president and work with him to get things done."

Huelskamp: "One thing to know about Tim Huelskamp is I have conservative principles, and I'm going to stand on those conservative principles. If you don't have conservative principles, I will work against you."

If the Chamber of Commerce and Boehner were against Huelskamp, he had no chance.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 08:08 AM (qCMvj)

36 While it's devastating on its own that Obama paid Iran that ransom for the 4 Americans, he had freakin leverage in that moment: he could have told Iran we would stop all negotiation of the "deal" until they were released. At this point it should be obvious to all that he's sided with Iran. Guess this explains why his post-presidential DC house is within 100 ft or so of the Iranian embassy?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2016 08:05 AM (NOIQH)

It's Valerie Jarret's Presidency. It will be Valery Jarett's post-Presidency.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2016 08:08 AM (Pz4pT)

37 While I greatly admire Dan, I remember supporting his political run here in Marylandistan two years ago.

It could have went better.

Yep. I like the guy a lot. But I think he's getting a reputation as a serial candidate, and the term "carpetbagger" is more than a little apt at this point.

I think he has much more influence as a media person, not as a candidate.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 03, 2016 08:09 AM (PFy0L)

38 32 Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 08:05 AM (Zs4uk)

Hello? Stimulus? And without baseline budgeting that's Stimulus 1-7.

"Eliminating rules and regulations, firing the bureaucracy, using common sense, going for quality, ending fraud, etc. will be job one for a new president."

Yes to that point. Infrastructure is code for Big Government Graft and payoffs to Big Labor.

NO.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:09 AM (9P3OG)

39
Roman Catholic Church to look at female deacons

Someone much more clever than myself quipped that, at the rate Frankie Fabulous is going, he'll declare himself a transwoman named Francine, announce that women can be priests and end up marrying an imam by the end of the year.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 03, 2016 08:09 AM (X6fMO)

40 Infrastructure is a republican issue.

As a party and as conservatives, we should all support intensive infrastructure programs throughout the country.

The only thing we need to change is the value we get for our dollar. Eliminating rules and regulations, firing the bureaucracy, using common sense, going for quality, ending fraud, etc. will be job one for a new president.

Good infrastructure is essential for free enterprise and expansion of the economy.

And the difference between Hillary & Trump?
Hillary will steal/lose it. Trump, who is used to building things, will actually build/fix things.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 03, 2016 08:10 AM (AY/TT)

41 Suck it up buttercup? Or, that's too bad, we feel for you?

dumb decision to have it there

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 08:11 AM (qCMvj)

42 22 spypeach

Getting rid of every Schedule C federal appointee is critical to national survival.

These are the people weaponizing the Executive branch against American citizens. Unelected Federal bureaucrats can bend if the leadership is changes.

Only Trump can even begin to change the character of the swamp that is the Feds today.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 03, 2016 08:11 AM (hyuyC)

43 13 Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 03, 2016 08:00 AM (hyuyC)

The article I linked to said Marshall's major attack was his getting kicked off the Agriculture Committee by Boner because he voted against Boner's cave in on spending.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 08:11 AM (mpXpK)

44 35
If the Chamber of Commerce and Boehner were against Huelskamp, he had no chance.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 08:08 AM (qCMvj)

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Huelskamp was one of the people responsible for bringing down Boehner.

Aside from that, I don't want to work with anyone across the aisle. I want to wipe them out, politically. They are dangerous and hell bent on destroying the country.

I'd like to hear more of that from candidates.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:12 AM (9P3OG)

45 As a party and as conservatives, we should all support intensive infrastructure programs throughout the country.

I also think conservatives should look at infrastructure as state/local issues, and not clamor for Federal involvement.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 03, 2016 08:12 AM (PFy0L)

46 39
Roman Catholic Church to look at female deacons

Someone much more clever than myself quipped that, at the rate Frankie Fabulous is going, he'll declare himself a transwoman named Francine, announce that women can be priests and end up marrying an imam by the end of the year.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 03, 2016 08:09 AM (X6fMO)

Female Richard Deacon? Whoa.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:12 AM (9P3OG)

47 And the difference between Hillary & Trump?
Hillary will steal/lose it. Trump, who is used to building things, will actually build/fix things.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 03, 2016 08:10 AM (AY/TT

That's what we need to hammer home.

Democrats (and some republicans) try to make the republican party out as an enemy of infrastructure. We need to change this perception.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 08:12 AM (Zs4uk)

48 Infrastructure is a republican issue.

Republican vs conservative. Some things could, theoretically, happen without government sponsorship. Never once occurred to a RINO CoC'er.
You are absolutely right about the history, though.

"Internal improvements" and the transcontinental railway. First party platform.
I for one think John C Fremont would have made a hell of a president.
After all the bastards we had after him, it seems so ironic.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 03, 2016 08:13 AM (tIja6)

49 45 Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 03, 2016 08:12 AM (PFy0L)

correct, if states kept their own money they would not "need" governor Santa Clause to aid them.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:13 AM (SzZnW)

50
So, I said ok, I'll try again....rented DeadPool the other night because it got good reviews....

I liked the snark and some of the action but could really really really do without the bathroom humor.

I love watching good movies...it seems like the last two or three years have been really bad....nothing but cr*p films.

Has anyone seen and can recommend any well done films of the past couple years. I need some help here people... thanks

Posted by: In Before TrumpDerangementSyndromeJeff at August 03, 2016 08:14 AM (fsWvx)

51 Infrastructure is a republican issue.

If they actually used the money to upgrade roads and bridges and it put middle class people to work, it could be an winning issue.

But to the Dems, it turns into a green light for all types of environmental impact statements, contracts to crony companies with union labor and project to build light rail systems in places where nobody really needs them.

Posted by: McCool at August 03, 2016 08:14 AM (TQxRy)

52 13 Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 03, 2016 08:00 AM (hyuyC)

Like I said last night it is a weird season....

now Huelenkamp is free to vote for Hillary in peace.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:14 AM (SzZnW)

53 "Has anyone seen and can recommend any well done films of the past couple years. I need some help here people... thanks"

American Sniper was good.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 03, 2016 08:15 AM (ptqRm)

54 I also think conservatives should look at infrastructure as state/local issues, and not clamor for Federal involvement.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 03, 2016 08:12 AM (PFy0L)

How, then, will we get our sports palaces and little ol' trains down Main St to nowhere?? Oh, the huge manatee!!!11!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 03, 2016 08:15 AM (JO9+V)

55 45 As a party and as conservatives, we should all support intensive infrastructure programs throughout the country.

I also think conservatives should look at infrastructure as state/local issues, and not clamor for Federal involvement.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 03, 2016 08:12 AM (PFy0L)

Every 4 years it's the same old shit; our roads and bridges are crumbling. And yet, they aren't.

Aside from a very few national projects, roads and bridges are a state and local issue.

Want to stimulate jobs? Get the government off the back of business. Slash the bureaucracy and regulatory state and cut taxes at least in half.

Watch the tax dollars flow in by increasing the taxpayer base and infrastructure money will appear all by itself.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:16 AM (9P3OG)

56 18 Posted by: BurtTC at August 03, 2016 08:01 AM (Pz4pT)

That was his biggest sin?

Hmm I thought telling the 23% of his party that backed the 2d place finisher in the primary GFYS may have factored into it.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:16 AM (SzZnW)

57 43 Vic We Have No Party

He was tagged as not playing well with others.

Lots of lies in the campaign.

Tim told a small group I was in about him meeting with Boehner after loosing his seat. He didn't listen and was unresponsive to Tim's arguments. The only response was when Tim said he was in Washington to represent his constituents. That got a very brief flicker out of Boehner. As if it was out of the past, something he once believed in.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 03, 2016 08:16 AM (hyuyC)

58
So Boston's Big Dig and California High Speed Rail are good for the economy?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:17 AM (9P3OG)

59 I also saw an article this morning....mind you it's only August 3 - "Hottest Year on Record - Greenhouse Gas Concentrations Still Increasing"

Interesting that they can proclaim it the hottest year on record and it's only the early part of August.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 03, 2016 08:17 AM (vg8iE)

60 52 sven10077

I highly doubt it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 03, 2016 08:17 AM (hyuyC)

61
Okay, kids. Gotta jump. Paying assignment is due today.

Later!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:18 AM (9P3OG)

62 44 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:12 AM (9P3OG)

It was a weird night....

Paul Ryan and Donald Trump both went to bed smiling over the results.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:18 AM (SzZnW)

63 Every town from Hicksville on up now "needs" a $1 billion sewer system improvement, and will very shortly need a federally-controlled water plant.
The Palace of Versailles was built to make vassals of contrary nobles.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 03, 2016 08:19 AM (tIja6)

64 60 Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 03, 2016 08:17 AM (hyuyC)

Sorry he will "follow his conscience" and vote for the aptly named "Johnson" then....he was a never Trumper...

you don't tell 23% of your electorate "you are stupid" and not pay a price.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:19 AM (SzZnW)

65 @32 j west-I've got to hand it to you, that was a good pitch on infrastructure being a "party" and "conservative" cause. Makes me feel better being an "investor" asTrump called it.

Posted by: JROD at August 03, 2016 08:20 AM (TJXOt)

66 It appears that this presidential election presents the voter with a stark choice between big-government left and big-government left.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 03, 2016 08:21 AM (97XyN)

67 Who's Levine? I listen to Levin!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:03 AM (9P3OG

Ya got me

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 03, 2016 08:21 AM (voOPb)

68 Farmers love the government.

Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:21 AM (WHygU)

69 Under Obama, with Hillary's help, $1 trillion basically disappeared. Nearly another trillion disappeared in the stimulus. Nobody has ever had to give an account to where any of that money has gone.

I think I know where it went, but even if I am right, it will never be known.

That one trillion is needed to bring infrastructure back up to the level of even Third World status, is probably understated. Spending $1 trillion on infrastructure probably would be a benefit to the country, if that's where it went. Under Hillary, it would just evaporate again. Under Trump, I think that there is at least a possibility that it might go where it's intended. Some of it at the very least.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 03, 2016 08:21 AM (4ng05)

70 Posted by: In Before TrumpDerangementSyndromeJeff at August 03, 2016 08:14 AM (fsWvx)

"Ex Machina" was strange, but well done and well acted.

"The Drop" was very well acted.

"10 Cloverfield Lane" wasn't bad....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 08:22 AM (Zu3d9)

71 Pivot and pound, Mr. Trump.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:05 AM (9P3OG)

I agree, maybe Trump will take a meeting with the horde, haha.

Posted by: spypeach at August 03, 2016 08:22 AM (nyYhO)

72 58
So Boston's Big Dig and California High Speed Rail are good for the economy?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:17 AM (9P3OG)
=====

Yes, we desperately need to drive to Merced to take a train to get to Bakersfield.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 03, 2016 08:22 AM (EZebt)

73 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:03 AM (9P3OG

Iceberg, Steinberg, Goldberg...they're all the same.

Posted by: Just the punchline at August 03, 2016 08:23 AM (Zu3d9)

74

Civil rights groups demanded police accountability and demanded officers wear a camera at all times. Now those same civil rights groups are demeanding accountability of the data the cameras record. In other words, the civil rights groups who demanded those cameras want to be the judge of what those cameras seem to have recorded.

Demand, demand, demand, demand, until they rule. That is what it's all about. That was always what it was about. Tyrants want to rule. It's what they do, it's all they do. They can't be reasoned with, they can't be negotiated with. And they will never stop.

Posted by: Broydiescamp at August 03, 2016 08:23 AM (Ckzgk)

75 Good movie not a comedy: Creed

Posted by: blaster at August 03, 2016 08:23 AM (2Ocf1)

76 Not only is our government nuts it has become substantially illigitite, out of controly and largely tyrannical.

Voting is not going to get us out of our predicament.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 03, 2016 08:24 AM (FfNUq)

77 (Paul Ryan) said the GOP is "flirting with various forms of progressivism."

Flirting with? Honey, you've already taken it home and are making it breakfast.

Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:24 AM (O7MnT)

78 55 J.J. Sefton

I argue that immigration control is infrastructure spending.

The millions of illegals in CA are above the design margins of the water systems. They put pressure on water treatment plants, water use, roads and bridges by their very existence.

I declaim that it is Green to stop illegal immigration and move those here back home. Move people from a very high carbon footprint to the low carbon footprint that is their country of origin.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 03, 2016 08:25 AM (hyuyC)

79 69 Under Obama, with Hillary's help, $1 trillion basically disappeared. Nearly another trillion disappeared in the stimulus. Nobody has ever had to give an account to where any of that money has gone.
====

It went to "shovel-ready" jobs.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 03, 2016 08:25 AM (EZebt)

80

In case you missed it. (from O'Reilly)

Pokemon Confrontation Caught on Tape

Jesse Watters and Bernard McGuirk watched footage of a 67-year-old veteran's confrontation with youngsters who were playing Pokemon Go in a cemetery. "Maybe he overreacted," McGuirk conceded, "but this was a Vietnam vet against a bunch of pampered ingrates.

These kids are the ones with PTSD - 'Pokeman Twit Stupidity Disorder.'"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYyO1HofVuQ

This was tear-jerking. It would have taken everything in me to not hit these a-holes.

And one of the a-holes uploads it to youtube, and what? expects sympathy?

They showed disrespect and ignorance. And they continued to intimidate and egg him on.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 08:25 AM (qCMvj)

81 One 'infrastructure' program worthwhile is covering this nation with fiber optic cable. Lotta jobs. Take people off the debit side of the equation.

Posted by: free range sorta conservative at August 03, 2016 08:26 AM (ZnIt3)

82 "Voting is not going to get us out of our predicament."

I've been trying since 2012 to convince myself that there's still hope for a peaceful return to representative government.

I can't do it.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 03, 2016 08:26 AM (97XyN)

83 >>>>Under Obama, with Hillary's help, $1 trillion basically disappeared.
Nearly another trillion disappeared in the stimulus. Nobody has ever
had to give an account to where any of that money has gone.

I think I know where it went, but even if I am right, it will never be known.

That one trillion is needed to bring infrastructure back up to the
level of even Third World status, is probably understated. Spending $1
trillion on infrastructure probably would be a benefit to the country,
if that's where it went. Under Hillary, it would just evaporate again.
Under Trump, I think that there is at least a possibility that it might
go where it's intended. Some of it at the very least.
.
.
.
.That $1 Trillion from the Stimulus went into State and Local government pockets to keep them solvent after the housing bubble collapse and they lost big chunks of revenue from dwindling property and payroll taxes. Some might have wound up actually being used to support infrastructure but not much of it.

I remember seeing one of those "obama $$$ building a better future" signs on Route 2 heading towards Hartford in Connecticut. It was there for almost 2 years and nary a shovel of dirt was turned over, as I suspect happened elsewhere.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 03, 2016 08:26 AM (iONHu)

84 The GOP has always been a form of progressivism.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 03, 2016 08:26 AM (tIja6)

85 Y'know, all the Trump supporters who thought that he was brilliantly using the media in the primary... I wonder if they have woke up and realized that all that free publicity he was getting was because the MFM wanted to make sure Hillary got the weakest possible opponent. Not because he was a brilliant manipulator of the media.

Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:26 AM (O7MnT)

86 I meant to say in my last comment that $1 trillion disappeared in the bank bailout.

A point or two: Obama stated that banks had paid back all of the bailout money. If that's true, why did debt not go down? If it's true, where did the paid back money go?

We'll never get answers to where that money went, but it is my belief that the overt push toward globalism is a direct result of that money having disappeared.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 03, 2016 08:27 AM (4ng05)

87 morn' 'rons..

Lots of chicanery and skullduggery afoot from the nasty dims/msm/rinos/gopE/backstabbers/liars/and traitors.

Posted by: willy at August 03, 2016 08:27 AM (Ffw22)

88 Kill List was an interesting flick with a very slow beginning and a hasty, confused ending.

Wakefield was gut-wrenching and heartbreaking all at once.

I recommend Tarkovsky's Stalker. It's out there for free as part of the open culture project. About 4 hours. Classed as sci-fi, but it's an exploration of the human soul.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 03, 2016 08:27 AM (6SBuM)

89 The GOP keeps up with the dysfunction

Everyone is acting like children. Trump needs to pick his fights. And sometimes, he needs to act presidential and agree to disagree.

If he steamrolls everyone, the Dems could take back both houses.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 08:28 AM (qCMvj)

90 The women deacons thing. Anyone want to talk about that?

Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 08:28 AM (6IPEM)

91 One 'infrastructure' program worthwhile is covering this nation with fiber optic cable. Lotta jobs. Take people off the debit side of the equation.

Posted by: free range sorta conservative at August 03, 2016 08:26 AM (ZnIt3)

There is already a ton of fiber cable out there not being used. There isn't much incentive for the ISP's to use it.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 03, 2016 08:29 AM (Ee2nz)

92 77 Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:24 AM (O7MnT)

"We must be the party of markets not business."

//Eddie Munster

What the f*c* does that even mean?

He gave Ogabe extra walking around money last budget for God's sake...

he is not even padding *his* business class biddies as much as empowering Obama to make being HIS buddy rewarding.

A genius folks, Paul Ryan plays eleventy-d chess.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:29 AM (SzZnW)

93 I'm starting to see the suggestion that Trump is mentally unstable, possibly insane in some MSM/lib news sites. This is no doubt connected to Obama unleashing the hounds by stating he is unfit and dangerous, I expect this will be a major theme the next few days. So presumably the LIV's will be panicked into into voting for the crazy ax-lady from a horror movie to save them from Trump?

Dems will burn this country down to stay in power. We are going to need a bigger boat.

Posted by: Ripley at August 03, 2016 08:29 AM (1BQGO)

94 Posted by:�V the K�at August 03, 2016 08:26 AM (O7MnT)

Yeah, it had absolutely nothing to do with the fact he was the only candidate to have an extremely popular position on immigration. One that can win the general election.

Posted by: free range sorta conservative at August 03, 2016 08:30 AM (ZnIt3)

95 Stuck in a hospital waiting room yesterday listening to THE VIEW. Couldn't stand to watch.

Narrative of the day: There is no such thing as media bias in "real journalism". Just look at Walter Cronkite and Barbara Walters. No one knew where they stood on politics.

Posted by: KT at August 03, 2016 08:31 AM (qahv/)

96 89 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 08:28 AM (qCMvj)

I need evidence that the House and Senate under the GOP are useful for anything other than Kabuki theater....

I have not seen it in six years.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:31 AM (SzZnW)

97 Yes, we desperately need to drive to Merced to take a train to get to Bakersfield.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 03, 2016 08:22 AM (EZebt)

But eventually, after a trillion $$$ are spent, you'll be able to get to Chowchilla!

And won't that be grand!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 08:31 AM (Zu3d9)

98 65 @32 j west-I've got to hand it to you, that was a good pitch on infrastructure being a "party" and "conservative" cause. Makes me feel better being an "investor" asTrump called it.

Posted by: JROD at August 03, 2016 08:20 AM (TJXOt)

Want to bring manufacturing back to the US and give us a competitive advantage even with high wages? Use the trillion that Obama pissed away building 500 identical nuclear power plants across the country.

Give the power away free. Allow local private business to distribute it for a charge, but if a steel mill wants their power for next to nothing, they simply build the plant next door to the power station.

Since the power is free, everyone in the country will receive a benefit as they switch from natural gas and oil to electric heating. Areas where air conditioning is the major cost for businesses and homes will expand. The sole factor for how much people and business would pay is how far they are from a power plant.

Is this socialism? Sure, just as much as the interstate road system is. It's a natural solution to the need for power in modern times.

Purists of libertarianism and hard core conservatives who want to live in a survivalist cabin in the wood might oppose this, but if you want an expanding economy in a world filled with low cost workers, this is an answer.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 08:32 AM (Zs4uk)

99 Re: Trump and infrastructure...

Hillary will RAISE TAXES to pay for infrastructure.

Trump is proposing to sell govt bonds to finance infrastructure.

. Our infrastructure is crumbling. But... The Dems/Barky already raped the Treasury to pay off the Dem public employee unions in the name of infrastructure.

Trumps infrastructure and Hillary's are two different things ...not the least of which is that Trumps 's is financed from bonds AND the money will actually go to roads, etc. NOT the public employee unions.

Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at August 03, 2016 08:32 AM (3ZttN)

100 85 Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:26 AM (O7MnT)

Absolutely.

So let's elect her to punish the media.

//Cruz Feyadeen

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:32 AM (SzZnW)

101 More Heads Roll At DNC- a limerick

The Democrat process was bought
Their leaders were put on the spot
The three were unseated
Not 'cause they cheated
But rather because they got caught

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 03, 2016 08:32 AM (NeFrd)

102
The women deacons thing.

Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 08:28 AM (6IPEM)

Is that an all-female gang?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 08:32 AM (Zu3d9)

103 So are we boned?

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 08:33 AM (7HtZB)

104 83 .That $1 Trillion from the Stimulus went into State
and Local government pockets to keep them solvent after the housing
bubble collapse and they lost big chunks of revenue from dwindling
property and payroll taxes. Some might have wound up actually being used
to support infrastructure but not much of it.

I remember seeing
one of those "obama $$$ building a better future" signs on Route 2
heading towards Hartford in Connecticut. It was there for almost 2 years
and nary a shovel of dirt was turned over, as I suspect happened
elsewhere.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 03, 2016 08:26 AM (iONHu)

Most of it went to corrupt inner city Democrats without any challenge by Republicans.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 08:33 AM (mpXpK)

105 The women deacons thing. Anyone want to talk about that?
Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 08:28 AM (6IPEM)

Biblically, female deacons are somewhat of a gray area. There is a decent amount of dispute of if they are or are not in the Bible. Both sides make good points.

My bigger issue is that women tend to drive men out of church roles. I'm not saying it is intentional but a matter of nature.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 03, 2016 08:34 AM (Ee2nz)

106 104 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 08:33 AM (mpXpK)

Hey "they won" man....

//Paul Ryan

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:34 AM (SzZnW)

107 "103 So are we boned?"

Terminally.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 03, 2016 08:35 AM (97XyN)

108 Listen it's easy peasy Chianeese.

If your going to talk a good game then when the war starts, grab a musket and get to the front lines.

If they go down the road of toiling with their conscience then they are pretty much zealots and need to be kicked to the curb.
I mean, some of these people and I bet this guy voted for the author of Ocare in Romney.
You should be a battle hardened mechwarrior by now but instead some chose to go down the road of Benedict Arnold without the medals.

In the end it all is as it should be. I hope Ben Sasse is next along with Ryan. Oh boy do I hope that.

Posted by: Drider at August 03, 2016 08:35 AM (bdzyz)

109 Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 08:32 AM (Zs4uk)

And have the Navy run them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 08:35 AM (Zu3d9)

110 68 Farmers love the government.
Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:21 AM (WHygU)
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Sadly, I think this is true. But at the same time, isn't it almost impossible for farmers to stay in business without them?

Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 03, 2016 08:36 AM (BDZWU)

111 "GM sold 2,406 Volts in July."

And Ford sold over 60,000 F-150's

But, whatever.

Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:36 AM (O7MnT)

112 105 Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 03, 2016 08:34 AM (Ee2nz)

If you squint really hard you can see the UK's decline in our headlines...

The Tory party has decided "we will run as the better guardians of the welfare state", the Church has decided to get its Womyn on.....

The Powers That Be have decided to import Islamia into the neighborhood.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:36 AM (SzZnW)

113 >>>>
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 03, 2016 08:26 AM (iONHu)

Most of it went to corrupt inner city Democrats without any challenge by Republicans.
.
.
.Not sure how they could have challenged anything as the Dems had a majority in the House, Senate and the Presidency, and the Republicans couldn't even stop obamacare.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 03, 2016 08:36 AM (iONHu)

114 Good riddance to Huelskamp. Next in line is Cruz, Lee and Bongino doesn't stand a chance. Grassroots conservatives with their bullshit principles will not be tolerated by GOPe/Nationalist Populist Alliance.

Posted by: JROD at August 03, 2016 08:36 AM (TJXOt)

115 >>Has anyone seen and can recommend any well done films of the past couple years. I need some help here people... thanks

Hmmm, depends on what you're looking for.

Stupid fun popcorn movie: "London Has Fallen"
Interesting, kinda strange sci-fi: "Moon"
Period piece that more fluff than plot: "Hail Caesar!" "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies"

Have friends who loooved "Bridge of Spies' but I haven't seen it yet.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2016 08:36 AM (NOIQH)

116 Ironically, my purist libertarian survival cabin in the wood needs work today. So I'll just hard-core off into the sunrise here and let Mister Liberty pontificate.

"Socialism by people we agree with!" Good Intentions Paving Corp LLC.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 03, 2016 08:36 AM (tIja6)

117 90 The women deacons thing. Anyone want to talk about that?
Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 08:28 AM (6IPEM)

I have a bad feeling about it.

Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2016 08:37 AM (7lVbc)

118 96 I need evidence that the House and Senate under the GOP are useful for anything other than Kabuki theater....

I have not seen it in six years.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:31 AM (SzZnW)
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It's frustrating as hell. We give them historically huge majorities at the national and state level, and all they do is make excuses.

The congress has enormous power it could use to stop a lot of things through not funding and oppose SCOTUS.

They could also prepare counter narratives to all the msm bs. But, they are too stupid, afraid, or eager to help the commies.

Posted by: willy at August 03, 2016 08:37 AM (Ffw22)

119 110 Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 03, 2016 08:36 AM (BDZWU)

That is the price they pay for their subsidies comrade....

the subsidies are there to lock out people from going into the business as much as to aid the farmer in it.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:37 AM (SzZnW)

120 68 Farmers love the government.
Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:21 AM (WHygU)
---

Sadly, I think this is true. But at the same time, isn't it almost impossible for farmers to stay in business without them?
Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 03, 2016 08:36 AM (BDZWU)

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No. Farming is not some unique economy.

Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:38 AM (WHygU)

121 The sacrament of Holy Orders defined by the Catholic Church comes in 3 parts: deacon, priest, bishop. All relegated to men to hold those positions.

Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 08:38 AM (6IPEM)

122 >>I remember seeing

one of those "obama $$$ building a better future" signs on Route 2...

IIRC, a good chunk of change was spent just on those damn signs and related marketing...

Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2016 08:38 AM (NOIQH)

123 From the Washington Examiner:

@JohnJHarwood

longtime ally of Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager: "Manafort not challenging Trump anymore. Mailing it in. Staff suicidal."

Posted by: Gran at August 03, 2016 08:38 AM (XIXhw)

124 Taxman

never heard of this... a bedroom tax

But the sentencing hearing at Manchester crown court last week heard how Mr Fannon had been paying bedroom tax on his son's room.

This is despite Department of Work and Pensions rules which say a family should be given a year after a death before bedroom tax is imposed.

Dubbed a 'spare room subsidy', the tax was imposed in 2013. It means a reduction in housing benefit when a house is 'under-occupied'.

good Lord

I get the extra tax. This guy is 49, and he's being subsidized? No mention of his status or why he is getting subsidized.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 08:38 AM (qCMvj)

125 "I declaim that it is Green to stop illegal
immigration and move those here back home. Move people from a very high
carbon footprint to the low carbon footprint that is their country of
origin.

Posted by: NaCly"

Some years ago some environmental groups, most notably the Sierra Club, started to express concern about illegal immigration and the effect on the environment. Some were even expressing open opposition as the adverse effects are quite obvious.(They trash our beautiful state parks herein Georgia). They were told to shut up and the issue is NEVER discussed in environmental circles. Bringing it up and pointing out the obvious would end a career of an green NGO official.

Posted by: Ripley at August 03, 2016 08:38 AM (1BQGO)

126 114 Posted by: JROD at August 03, 2016 08:36 AM (TJXOt)

"Principles" like telling 23.4% of your client base "f*ck you inbred sister humping corn pone retards I can never back your judgement...."

Yeah a real tragedy Darwin asserted himself there.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:39 AM (SzZnW)

127 Good riddance to Huelskamp. Next in line is Cruz, Lee and Bongino doesn't stand a chance. Grassroots conservatives with their bullshit principles will not be tolerated by GOPe/Nationalist Populist Alliance.

------

This sounds about right.

Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:39 AM (WHygU)

128 What chance does Nehlen have of beating the POS Ryan?

Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at August 03, 2016 08:40 AM (3ZttN)

129 And have the Navy run them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 08:35 AM (Zu3d9)

Good idea.

The reason I want the government to build and operate the plants is that the major cost of nuke sites is the legal, liability, financing and all the other bullshit. If the plants are sited on federal land (which is everywhere across the country) nobody can stop them and they can be built quickly and cheaply.

Also, the US would be far more secure militarily because no matter what happened, the vast majority of the country would have plenty of power.

Let Trump adopt this as his main program if elected and see where the polls go.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 08:40 AM (Zs4uk)

130 Oh, "13 Hours" is good, too. Unnerving.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2016 08:40 AM (NOIQH)

131 115 >>Has anyone seen and can recommend any well done films of the past couple years. I need some help here people... thanks

Hmmm, depends on what you're looking for.

Stupid fun popcorn movie: "London Has Fallen"
Interesting, kinda strange sci-fi: "Moon"
Period piece that more fluff than plot: "Hail Caesar!" "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies"

Have friends who loooved "Bridge of Spies' but I haven't seen it yet.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2016 08:36 AM (NOIQH)

"The Conjuring" is a good recent horror movie

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 08:41 AM (7HtZB)

132 122 Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2016 08:38 AM (NOIQH)

True, they still proudly have the ARRA signs from Ogabe Stimulus here on Kaw Road which needs repaved badly 7 years later....
]

some folks can't follow the bouncing ball.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:41 AM (SzZnW)

133 longtime ally of Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager: "Manafort not challenging Trump anymore. Mailing it in. Staff suicidal."

So I (reluctantly) listen to Michael Savage during the drive home.

What's funny is that he's blaming Manafort for Trump not doing well. Saying Trump needs to stop listening to Manafort and do his own thing.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 03, 2016 08:41 AM (PFy0L)

134 Most of it went to corrupt inner city Democrats without any challenge by Republicans.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 08:33 AM (mpXpK)

There were many places that legend had it where the money went. I personally think it went right into the bank accounts of elites who lost massively when that whole scheme of packaging mortgages and then offering all kinds of exotic derivatives on.

Wherever it went, there wasn't even a few billion dollars worth of value that went into infrastructure. Those projects, as it has been confirmed multiple times, where those signs were erected to tout stimulus spending, were projects already planned and funded without stimulus support.

The trillion dollars, as far as anyone knows, managed to buy a few signs. That's it.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 03, 2016 08:41 AM (4ng05)

135 "Principles" like telling 23.4% of your client base "f*ck you inbred sister humping corn pone retards I can never back your judgement...."

Yeah a real tragedy Darwin asserted himself there.

----

We want someone to shake things up ... so long as they keep our farming spigot flowing.

Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:42 AM (WHygU)

136 "114 Good riddance to Huelskamp. Next in line is Cruz, Lee and Bongino doesn't stand a chance. Grassroots conservatives with their bullshit principles will not be tolerated by GOPe/Nationalist Populist Alliance."

Call it what you will but what has this crowd done for us?
They've signed every document that the Rule for Radicals POTUS tossed in front of them and MORE to their delight.
Playing the "local" game is horseshit. We need a man in the big house and your right. Bitter dead enders should not be tolerated.

Posted by: Drider at August 03, 2016 08:42 AM (bdzyz)

137 I used to listen to Levin, but my hearing has deteriorated and he's completely outside my register now.

Posted by: Phone of kari at August 03, 2016 08:42 AM (cHxrS)

138 >>> Oh, "13 Hours" is good, too. Unnerving.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2016 08:40 AM (NOIQH)
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I just watched that for the first time last week too. Same reaction as you. Required viewing.

Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 08:43 AM (6IPEM)

139 128 Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at August 03, 2016 08:40 AM (3ZttN)

I'd put it at 15-25%...

2018 on the other hand when I decide by (-r) if possible by (-d) if need be as I swore with Cantor?

Look it is bad enough Ryan is ad-blitzing being a "Border Hawk" ala Juan Queeg....

"soon"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:43 AM (SzZnW)

140 103 So are we boned?
Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 08:33 AM (7HtZB)

We're done with the boning and have moved on to the awkward conversation while dressing.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 03, 2016 08:43 AM (RD7QR)

141 120 68 Farmers love the government.
Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:21 AM (WHygU)

Adopt my power idea and all of the vegetables consumed in a city will be grown in 40 story high urban greenhouses with grow light burning 24/7.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 08:43 AM (Zs4uk)

142 All the gals in Ghostbusters are deacons. Suck it haters!

Posted by: Fat Funny Actress DuJour at August 03, 2016 08:44 AM (gjBos)

143 Call it what you will but what has this crowd done for us?

-----

Only helped force Boehner out. Oh well.

Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:44 AM (WHygU)

144 Aside from that, I don't want to work with anyone across the aisle. I want to wipe them out, politically. They are dangerous and hell bent on destroying the country.

I'd like to hear more of that from candidates.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:12 AM (9P3OG)

---
I'm in agreement. For years, I thought that we (dims and Repubs) could reach across the aisle and meet in the middle. Time has shown that Repubs reach across the aisle and adopt the Dim position.

Eff that.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 03, 2016 08:44 AM (6n332)

145 What chance does Nehlen have of beating the POS Ryan?

About the same chance of Donald Trump shrugging off a personal criticism and not making a big deal out of it.

Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:44 AM (O7MnT)

146
The women deacons thing. Anyone want to talk about that?
Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 08:28 AM (6IPEM)

A case could be made that its the Church returning to earlier practice, as Paul (I believe) does mention female deacons. However, I would only accept that argument from someone whom I believed to be theologically sound, like Pope Benedict.

With Frankie Fabulous, however, it will be seen as the first step to women priests and openly gay clergy.

At which point I go Russian Orthodox.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 03, 2016 08:44 AM (X6fMO)

147 >>>Has anyone seen and can recommend any well done films of the past couple years. I need some help here people... thanks

Two foreign films that are excellent if you don't mind subtitles (and I guess not *that* recent), but):

"The Secret In Their Eyes"
"Vitus"

Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2016 08:45 AM (NOIQH)

148 135 Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:42 AM (WHygU)

If it is any solace a part of me suspects in a Grammy wave we lose the seat entirely SH b/c why go 1/2 way in electing a dem lite when you can have the real thing?

I notice a LOT more people are a LOT more principled about "stopping trump by whatever means necessary" than felt the need to play that game that hard with Urkle....

I can't tell ~25% of my clients GFYS on their life choices....

a Pol telling them that on their primary vote is dumb.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:45 AM (SzZnW)

149 I have a bad feeling about it.

Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2016 08:37 AM (7lVbc

The church needs the feminine touch for SJ issues.

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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 03, 2016 08:45 AM (voOPb)

150 Only helped force Boehner out. Oh well.

Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:44 AM (WHygU)

And we got Ryan.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 08:45 AM (Zu3d9)

151 " I used to listen to Levin, but my hearing has deteriorated and he's completely outside my register now."

Hhahah, mine too. Although after Mercer dumped Cruz, I did catch a tidbit of Levin telling people the truth for once in that there are no sightseers in this election.

Pick a side and go for it.

Posted by: Drider at August 03, 2016 08:46 AM (bdzyz)

152 "Wherever it went, there wasn't even a few billion dollars worth of value that went into infrastructure."

All I saw in my area was some roads being re-paved that weren't very bad to begin with (with nice signs of course). Absolutely nothing that would count as major improvement or new infrastructure. That money mostly went to keep state and local govts. afloat and prevent them form cutting their budgets and union jobs.

Posted by: Ripley at August 03, 2016 08:46 AM (1BQGO)

153 Oh, "13 Hours" is good, too. Unnerving.

Great movie.
It showed that the CIA was buying back weapons from the insurgents but it was silent on who we were then selling them to...

Posted by: McCool at August 03, 2016 08:46 AM (TQxRy)

154 longtime ally of Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign
manager: "Manafort not challenging Trump anymore. Mailing it in. Staff
suicidal."

So I (reluctantly) listen to Michael Savage during the drive home.

What's funny is that he's blaming Manafort for Trump not doing well.
Saying Trump needs to stop listening to Manafort and do his own thing.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 03, 2016 08:41 AM (PFy0L)

this started from John Hardwood of NYT and CNBC. please consider the source.

Posted by: runner at August 03, 2016 08:47 AM (c6/9Q)

155 Throw me into the Outer Darkness, but I liked Spy with that plump chick. It was okay, got several chuckles.

Then again, I also liked the updated Vacation movie, albeit slightly less.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 03, 2016 08:47 AM (JO9+V)

156 118 Posted by: willy at August 03, 2016 08:37 AM (Ffw22)

When you accept that the GOP has "reluctantly" decided to aid the socialists as their "sane budget officer" it all makes sense.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:47 AM (SzZnW)

157 Adopt my power idea and all of the vegetables consumed in a city will be grown in 40 story high urban greenhouses with grow light burning 24/7.

It would actually be a fascinating idea; the energy costs of such facilities would be offset by the reduced transport costs. You could also design lighting systems to transmit sunlight through optic fiber or mirrors and minimize energy use further.

You could reduce the need for chemicals by isolating the growing environment from pests. You could have kittehs on the lower levels to control the rats, and superfreeze the ductwork between levels to keep the roaches out. Most of the crop-tending could be handled by gardening robots, which already exist.

Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:48 AM (O7MnT)

158 145 What chance does Nehlen have of beating the POS Ryan?

About the same chance of Donald Trump shrugging off a personal criticism and not making a big deal out of it.

Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:44 AM (O7MnT

Listening to Mark Belling WISN 1130 Milwaukee and sometimes fill in for Rush, he had several segments about this race. Avid listener and usually agree with him. But he was way off base on his thinking why Ryan is being challenged.

I don't know what the numbers are, but this isn't the first time Milwaukee talk radio seems nervous about this race. Supposedly big names are coming in this weekend for Nehlen.

He's not my congressman and if he were I would vote against him in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 03, 2016 08:48 AM (voOPb)

159 Kontroll ' 2003 flick from Hungary.

Lovely cinematography, quite funny in places. Jas a character reminds me of my favorite uncle.

Retelling of inferno/paradiso. Set on budapest subway.

https://youtu.be/OjS8hf6Ck9A

One of my favorite scenes.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 03, 2016 08:48 AM (6SBuM)

160 this started from John Hardwood of NYT and CNBC. please consider the source.

Posted by: runner at August 03, 2016 08:47 AM (c6/9Q)

Good point.

Posted by: Gran at August 03, 2016 08:49 AM (XIXhw)

161 Posted by: In Before TrumpDerangementSyndromeJeff at August 03, 2016 08:14 AM (fsWvx)

"Ex Machina" was strange, but well done and well acted.

"The Drop" was very well acted.

"10 Cloverfield Lane" wasn't bad....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 08:22 AM (Zu3d9)

We just watched 10 Cloverfield Lane.

I liked it.

Ex Machina and The Drop are good movies too.

Nice suggestions!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 08:49 AM (qCMvj)

162 As for the future and good citizenship, there's a lot to be said for shotguns. Cheap, reliable, and likely to be the last firearms confiscated.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 03, 2016 08:50 AM (97XyN)

163 You could also design lighting systems to transmit sunlight through optic fiber or mirrors and minimize energy use further.

Capture rainwater from the roof for irrigation and its self sufficient !

Posted by: McCool at August 03, 2016 08:50 AM (TQxRy)

164 Adopt my power idea and all of the vegetables consumed in a city will be grown in 40 story high urban greenhouses with grow light burning 24/7.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 08:43 AM (Zs4uk)

I've always want to see an actual working building for this just to see how well it would operate.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 03, 2016 08:50 AM (Ee2nz)

165 About the body cameras for police:

Citizens should be filming their encounters with to police and not rely on the criminal system to give them justice.

Given the fact that police are legally allowed to lie to you, do you really trust the State to 'accidently' not have the cameras on, or lose the recording? Even the Russians have enough sense to record their encounters....

Just ask this guy in Idaho:
http://www.ksl.com?sid=40883792&nid=157

Posted by: shadowofashade at August 03, 2016 08:50 AM (bk6hD)

166 119 Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:37 AM (SzZnW)

I'm not saying I believe they can't operate without subsidies. My mom grew up in a dairy farming family and so quite a bit of farming on that side of my family and I'll often hear that subsidies help them out quite a bit. I remember 4 or 5 years ago when milk prices were low and my aunt travelled with others to see Chucky Schumer about helping out the dairy farmers.

It would be really interested to see what farming would look like if it operated in a truly free market. I bet they would be unshackled from a lot of burdens.

Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 03, 2016 08:50 AM (BDZWU)

167 [Maybe one. Come on down to Mexico. ]

Good morning, all. Kinduva lousy day, isn't it? They say Manafort is phoning it in now, not challenging Trump anymore, and the campaign staff is suicidal.

The man needs to quit whining to America about how mean Hillary is being to him, and start telling us how he's going to fight her on OUR behalf.

Imagine some billionaire going before a crowd of hurting middle-class Americans and whining about how he's being treated in a political race. The dude is temperamentally incapable of thinking in any other way it seems. He needs a coach.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 03, 2016 08:51 AM (pC96u)

168
103 So are we boned?

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 08:33 AM (7HtZB)

We're done with the boning and have moved on to the awkward conversation while dressing.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 03, 2016 08:43 AM (RD7QR)

So, uh, call me?
Yeah, sure thing, babe.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 03, 2016 08:51 AM (JO9+V)

169 Capture rainwater from the roof for irrigation and its self sufficient !

Posted by: McCool at August 03, 2016 08:50 AM (TQxRy)

I doubt you could capture enough rain water from the roof to be fully self sufficient with water. But it would help.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 03, 2016 08:51 AM (Ee2nz)

170 I used to listen to Levin, but my hearing has deteriorated

Listening to Levin for long periods will do that....
raises your bp also

Posted by: McCool at August 03, 2016 08:51 AM (TQxRy)

171 The Iran thing stinks so horribly. I think it's important to note that this is a Uniparty push. Val-Jar is a shill for her Iranian overlords to be sure. The Chamber of Cocks club is all for bending over for Iran too: if there's one thing Fortune 100 companies love, it's the clanging dinner bell of "New Markets!!"
Our democracy will be sacrificed at the alters of Muhammadism and earnings.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 03, 2016 08:52 AM (SeD0w)

172 103 So are we boned?
Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 08:33 AM (7HtZB)

Game over man. Game over.

Posted by: Private Hudson at August 03, 2016 08:52 AM (BDZWU)

173 Don't Drink The Water- a limerick

Regarding the Olympics here's my thoughts
(I don't see why you can't connect the dots)
The virus gets inside us
Causing gastroenteritis.
Next thing you know our sprinters have the trots

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 03, 2016 08:52 AM (NeFrd)

174 It would be really interested to see what ~~farming~~Our Entire Economy
would look like if it operated in a truly free market. I bet they would
be unshackled from a lot of burdens.

Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 03, 2016 08:50 AM (BDZWU)

FIFY

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 08:53 AM (Zu3d9)

175 The Rite with Anthony Hopkins was quite good, for what it was.

And it had Rutger Hauer......

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 03, 2016 08:53 AM (6SBuM)

176 Trump's mental health is questioned while my NPD & denial are ignored. It is to laugh.

Posted by: POTUS at August 03, 2016 08:53 AM (gjBos)

177 129 The reason I want the government to build and
operate the plants is that the major cost of nuke sites is the legal,
liability, financing and all the other bullshit. If the plants are
sited on federal land (which is everywhere across the country) nobody
can stop them and they can be built quickly and cheaply.

Also, the US would be far more secure militarily because no matter
what happened, the vast majority of the country would have plenty of
power.

Let Trump adopt this as his main program if elected and see where the polls go.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 08:40 AM (Zs4uk)

The major cost of building a Nuke was endless litigation by the no-nukes eco-nazis who filed endless back to back civil suits halting construction causing the interest costs to go through the roof.

They have learned from that and are now using the same tactics on ALL construction.

The ability to do that was put in place by the Democrats and they have no intention of changing that.

As for letting the government build them, if by some miracle of insanity they did start doing that the cost would go up by an a 99E10th power, the construction time would up to infinity, and the quality would go down by the same amount. That is an insane idea.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 08:53 AM (mpXpK)

178 My family are also dairy farmers; or were. During the Clinton Era, the Government started to really crack down on farmers for 'environmental compliance.' After a while, trying to keep up with the regulators got to be too much hassle. The small farmers mostly closed up shop. Only the large, industrial scale dairy farms and the small 'organic' farms could operate profitably.

Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:53 AM (O7MnT)

179 166 Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 03, 2016 08:50 AM (BDZWU)

If the GOP spent 1/2 the effort it spends subsidizing farmers on opening up world markets to FREE access I suspect we'd have a boom period.

America can literally produce enough food if maximized to feed 2/3d the planet....

we are not subsidizing farmers we are subsidizing hunger.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:53 AM (SzZnW)

180 "Aside from that, I don't want to work with anyone across the aisle. I want to wipe them out, politically. They are dangerous and hell bent on destroying the country.

I'd like to hear more of that from candidates.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 03, 2016 08:12 AM (9P3OG)"

I hope you understand that what you typed sounds great IMHO. It does. Hell after the nonstop thrashing and capitulation that the Republican leaders have put us through over the last 20 or so years I would really love to have some of that.

Here is the deal. That will NEVER happen. Never. It's complete fallacy to seriously think that will ever happen.
I want a guy who will work to get logical, common sense stuff done ala RR/Tip O'neil.

Ain't nobody going to get everything they want with Trump. I've accepted that. We will get "something" with Trump that we want and brother. That is one hell of a lot better than the jack squat that we get from our vaunted R held Congress.

Posted by: Drider at August 03, 2016 08:53 AM (bdzyz)

181 I doubt you could capture enough rain water from the roof to be fully self sufficient with water. But it would help.

With indoor growing, evaporation losses and runoff would be minimized, so really you may need alot less water. Just spitballin' here. Cool concept.

I see alot of posts about using shipping containers for this type of thing

Posted by: McCool at August 03, 2016 08:54 AM (TQxRy)

182 @98 j west-I'm sitting in the parking lot right now at Chevron Richmond facility. I build power plants, work at steel mill (POSCO). Most refineries already have electric power plant on site and send excess out to public power lines. Now you're trying to sell me on sort of socialism. Biggest problem in getting anything built anywhere in this country is the EPA. It took 11years of bullshit to get a power plant in Hayward CA built. Plenty of private business willing to build whatever type of power generation you want. I do not need to be taxed more and described as an investor for this.

Posted by: JROD at August 03, 2016 08:54 AM (TJXOt)

183 If you like war movies, you have to see "My Way." It's a Korean movie based on the true story of a Korean man who saw service in the WWII era with the Japanese, Russian and German armies. Jaw-dropping battle scenes & a story that would be unbelievable if it weren't true.

Also a good recent war movie is "The Day of The Siege" about the battle of Vienna on September 11, 1683

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 08:54 AM (7HtZB)

184
this started from John Hardwood of NYT and CNBC. please consider the source.
Posted by: runner at August 03, 2016 08:47 AM (c6/9Q)
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Oh, woops, I didn't scroll up before posting my good morning bowl of Drearios.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 03, 2016 08:54 AM (pC96u)

185 At which point I go Russian Orthodox.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 03, 2016 08:44 AM (X6fMO)
******
No, dude. Greek Orthodox. Better food.

I have seen that argument and the Paul reference to a deaconess. It doesn't compare to the modern male deacon.
It wasn't a sacramental ministry. They were the equivalent of nuns serving in some capacity in the church and at Mass as an assistant to the priest.

Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 08:54 AM (6IPEM)

186 129 jwest

That's a good plan, jwest. I like it even better when we challenge the big construction firms with a cost plus design, build and operate contract. Let the Navy's role be in the design approval and training areas.

Today, electrical power is civilization.

Add in superconductivity and catalysis research with electric motor improvements for my own Save the Environment program. This would get the few thinking Greens onboard.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 03, 2016 08:54 AM (hyuyC)

187 I'm not saying I believe they can't operate without subsidies. My mom grew up in a dairy farming family and so quite a bit of farming on that side of my family and I'll often hear that subsidies help them out quite a bit. I remember 4 or 5 years ago when milk prices were low and my aunt travelled with others to see Chucky Schumer about helping out the dairy farmers.

It would be really interested to see what farming would look like if it operated in a truly free market. I bet they would be unshackled from a lot of burdens.
Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 03, 2016 08:50 AM (BDZWU)

From FDR and up into the 80's, the gov't agriculture policy was to ensure a certain income level to farmers based on price supports, etc. I don't know if that is still the policy or not. I don't like the current policy. But I do realize without it that farming can be a brutal business even without gov't interference.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 03, 2016 08:55 AM (Ee2nz)

188 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 03, 2016 08:52 AM (NeFrd)

My dad was an Infectious Diseases prof. He loved to collect euphemisms for the various gastrointenstinally challenged places around the world.

"Delhi Belly"
"The Aleppo Two-step"
etc.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 08:55 AM (Zu3d9)

189 The Iran thing stinks so horribly. I think it's important to note that this is a Uniparty push. Val-Jar is a shill for her Iranian overlords to be sure. The Chamber of Cocks club is all for bending over for Iran too: if there's one thing Fortune 100 companies love, it's the clanging dinner bell of "New Markets!!"

Which is why Iran just ordered 100 new jets from Boeing. Just try and 'snap-back' sanctions now.

Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:55 AM (O7MnT)

190 Ugh. It's going to be a lousy enough day as is without the country's continued slide into tyranny elevating my BP. Think I'll call it quits until tomorrow.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 03, 2016 08:55 AM (X6fMO)

191 I think the Manafort story is bogus.

Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2016 08:55 AM (7lVbc)

192 Cloyd Freud is right.

Within its effective range, the common shotgun is about the most destructive firearm your average civilian can possess.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 03, 2016 08:55 AM (6SBuM)

193 I'm all for more nuclear power, but i dont want the federal government building them.

Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:55 AM (WHygU)

194 Got to take care of a neighbor's field.

Later.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 03, 2016 08:56 AM (hyuyC)

195 178 My family are also dairy farmers; or were. During the Clinton Era, the Government started to really crack down on farmers for 'environmental compliance.' After a while, trying to keep up with the regulators got to be too much hassle. The small farmers mostly closed up shop. Only the large, industrial scale dairy farms and the small 'organic' farms could operate profitably.
Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:53 AM (O7MnT)

TFG is doing the same thing with fishermen. I heard on Rush's morning update that commercial fishermen now have to pay for the expense of having a commissar on board their vessels. Only the big ones (i.e. donors) will be able to afford the cost.

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 08:57 AM (7HtZB)

196 >>175
The Rite with Anthony Hopkins was quite good, for what it was. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 03, 2016 08:53 AM (6SBuM)

I was able to watch about the first 15 minutes before deciding that it was another creepy Catholic movie that fetishized mystery. Maybe it got better; I doubt it. Not my chalice of tea.

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 08:57 AM (Bdeb0)

197 Speaking of policy, when I went home a couple of years ago, farmers were bulldozing hundreds of acres of woodland so they could plant corn for ethanol; because the subsidies made it so profitable.

Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:57 AM (O7MnT)

198 @177 Vic-read yor post after I posted above. You are absolutely correct.

Posted by: JROD at August 03, 2016 08:58 AM (TJXOt)

199
The women deacons thing. Anyone want to talk about that?
Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 08:28 AM (6IPEM)
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I have no problem with women deacons per se and with any other pope I'd say Cool, but with this pope it's obviously a step towards weakening the church.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 03, 2016 08:58 AM (pC96u)

200 >>193
I'm all for more nuclear power, but i dont want the federal government building them. Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:55 AM (WHygU)

You'd prefer localities funding their own nuclear plants? Would those same localities also be responsible for monitoring them?

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 08:58 AM (Bdeb0)

201 134 Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 03, 2016 08:41 AM (4ng05)

No need to rely on legend, they actually published it. One huge block went to some "inner city schools" in a huge corrupt blue city. I remember saying, yeah, there some real infrastructure there. They said they would use it to hire more staff. A one time use of a federal grant to hire staff to increase the year-to-year operating costs.

That is illegal in SC but I guess not in a blue State. And BTW, blue States got something like 75% of that "stimulus" and Republicans did bitch about that, but took no action.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 08:59 AM (mpXpK)

202 [After that, after you listen. ]

And Vic, thanks as always for the links in the ONT. I read them every morning.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 03, 2016 08:59 AM (pC96u)

203 I digs the nuke plant plan, but, in the current environment, it will never happen. Between folks wanting more than just 'honest graft,' the environmental impact studies, and the inevitable cost-overruns, thw project would fall to pieces in six months.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 03, 2016 09:00 AM (6SBuM)

204 I think the Manafort story is bogus.

Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2016 08:55 AM (7lVbc)

It does seem very con-veeeeen-ient. I question its authenticity.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 03, 2016 09:00 AM (JO9+V)

205 Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 08:57 AM (Bdeb0)

Criticizing Catholics seems to be what you do....

Tread lightly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 09:00 AM (Zu3d9)

206 I'm starting to see the suggestion that Trump is mentally unstable, possibly insane in some MSM/lib news sites. This is no doubt connected to Obama unleashing the hounds by stating he is unfit and dangerous, I expect this will be a major theme the next few days. So presumably the LIV's will be panicked into into voting for the crazy ax-lady from a horror movie to save them from Trump?

Dems will burn this country down to stay in power. We are going to need a bigger boat.

Posted by: Ripley at August 03, 2016 08:29 AM (1BQGO)

Whatever sticks.

The democrats throw the kitchen sink at republicans/conservatives (anyone not them), and keep doing it 24/7 relentlessly.

It takes a mountain to deflect it.

Trump had no idea what he was getting into. We are talking about the filthiest people in America.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 09:02 AM (qCMvj)

207 it's hard to fight the globalists - they come at you from the left and right, quite a battle

Posted by: runner at August 03, 2016 09:02 AM (c6/9Q)

208
Let's see how Donald does today in Florida. Pence is in Colorado:

- WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 03, 2016 -
DENVER, CO
Governor Mike Pence
2:00 PM

Governor Mike Pence will be holding a Town Hall at Mile High Station
Doors open at 11:30 AM

- WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 03, 2016 -
DAYTONA BEACH, FL
Donald J. Trump
3:00 PM

Donald J. Trump will be holding a Town Hall at Ocean Center
Doors open at 12:00 PM

- WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 03, 2016 -
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO
Governor Mike Pence
6:00 PM

Governor Mike Pence will be holding a Rally at Antlers Colorado Springs
Doors open at 3:00 PM

- WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 03, 2016 -
JACKSONVILLE, FL
Donald J. Trump
7:00 PM

Donald J. Trump will be holding a Rally at Jacksonville Veterans Memorial Arena
Doors Open 4:00 PM

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 03, 2016 09:02 AM (pC96u)

209 164 Adopt my power idea and all of the vegetables consumed in a city will be grown in 40 story high urban greenhouses with grow light burning 24/7.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 08:43 AM (Zs4uk)

Veggies grown this way are not the highest quality. And just like pressing animal/human populations into higher concentrations, plants suffer also from increase disease and lack of vigor.

America is YUUUGE! We have plenty arable land, just too many idjits trying to control it and keep it from being used. (see the Great Valley in commiefornia)

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at August 03, 2016 09:02 AM (zUIph)

210 Cloyd Freud is right.

Within its effective range, the common shotgun is about the most destructive firearm your average civilian can possess.

If you are limited to that range, and your opponent isn't, you're fucked.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 03, 2016 09:02 AM (AY/TT)

211
Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 08:57 AM (Bdeb0)

Criticizing Catholics seems to be what you do....

Tread lightly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 09:00 AM (Zu3d9)
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I didn't see him criticizing Catholics at all.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 03, 2016 09:04 AM (pC96u)

212
I think the Manafort story is bogus.

Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2016 08:55 AM (7lVbc)

It does seem very con-veeeeen-ient. I question its authenticity.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 03, 2016 09:00 AM (JO9+V)
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The evidence certainly seems to support it. I love Trump in a way. In a way.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 03, 2016 09:04 AM (pC96u)

213 Have friends who loooved "Bridge of Spies' but I haven't seen it yet.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 03, 2016 08:36 AM (NOIQH)

I thought this was an okay movie. It was interesting.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 09:05 AM (qCMvj)

214 206 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 09:02 AM (qCMvj)
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That was on the front page of Yahoo this morning. I guess they're not really bothering wearing a false mask of objectivity anymore are they?

Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 03, 2016 09:05 AM (BDZWU)

215 An honest appraisal of the historical record would show that deaconesses in the ancient Church had nun-like duties: assisting at female full immersion baptisms (which we don't do anymore, so moot), care of the poor. stuff like that.

No liturgical roles, but that will be overlooked, in favor of a foot int he door re: women priests.

Lucky for us, that's an impossibililty

Posted by: Sal at August 03, 2016 09:06 AM (MRX6w)

216 I need evidence that the House and Senate under the GOP are useful for anything other than Kabuki theater....

I have not seen it in six years.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 08:31 AM (SzZnW)
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It's frustrating as hell. We give them historically huge majorities at the national and state level, and all they do is make excuses.

The congress has enormous power it could use to stop a lot of things through not funding and oppose SCOTUS.

They could also prepare counter narratives to all the msm bs. But, they are too stupid, afraid, or eager to help the commies.

Posted by: willy at August 03, 2016 08:37 AM (Ffw22)

Makes you want to close yourself off to it all. It will drive you insane if you let it.

The country will be left with what it voted for. Generations of good will lost.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 09:06 AM (qCMvj)

217 Test

Posted by: Lauren at August 03, 2016 09:06 AM (KpRYi)

218 I didn't see him criticizing Catholics at all.
Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 03, 2016 09:04 AM (pC96u)

Pretty blatant yesterday. Building up a track record for himself, looks like.

Posted by: Sal at August 03, 2016 09:08 AM (MRX6w)

219 200
>>193

I'm all for more nuclear power, but i dont want the federal
government building them. Posted by: SH at August 03, 2016 08:55 AM
(WHygU)

You'd prefer localities funding their own nuclear plants? Would those same localities also be responsible for monitoring them?

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 08:58 AM (Bdeb0)

I am for removing the never-ending useless regulations that are ordered by the commissioners appointed by Democrats. And removing the ability of the eco-nazis to serial litigate.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 09:08 AM (mpXpK)

220 Back to farming for second. If you go into farming, are you forced into subsidies? I'm assuming you do, but maybe I'm wrong.

Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 03, 2016 09:09 AM (BDZWU)

221 Sigh, now it works once my huge post vanished into pixy world.

Anyway, I've been reading the latest Isis mag all night.

Why they hate us? Trinitarianism, apparently.

Oh, and they have a crazy conspiracy theory involving Jesus getting a stand in for His crucifixion.

But yeah, they're mostly pissed at the blasphemy of the Godhead.

Of course, that doesn't explain their hatred of The Joooos, but I guess that's an issue for another issue!

Posted by: Lauren at August 03, 2016 09:10 AM (KpRYi)

222 I mentioned a week or so ago my trip to WI and area around Madison. Never in my entire life have I seen 'estates' like some of those farms. Everything was manicured, huge homes, brand-new outbuildings and equipment. The contrast between 'working' farms, very well-kept but not to suburban estates standards, was absolutely shocking. Whoever is buying up these Estates sure has $$$$ because land in that area is almost as expensive as prime subdivision ex-farms in Illinois.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 03, 2016 09:10 AM (MIKMs)

223 hi everyone from sunny Janesville

have a long train trip tonight, layover for 2 hours in horrid Chicago with a 3yo boy. gonna be great!

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 03, 2016 09:11 AM (F+xWX)

224 Throw me into the Outer Darkness, but I liked Spy with that plump chick. It was okay, got several chuckles.

Then again, I also liked the updated Vacation movie, albeit slightly less.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 03, 2016 08:47 AM (JO9+V)

I thought this was funny. I watched it on a whim, but was happy I did. A great get-your-mind off stuff movie.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 09:12 AM (qCMvj)

225 Oh and in other deleted post news...

The little boy I mentioned in the ONT is not septic!

He does, however, have juvenile arthritis so please do pray for him on that front.

Posted by: Lauren at August 03, 2016 09:12 AM (KpRYi)

226 220 Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 03, 2016 09:09 AM (BDZWU)

No, you can try to leverage the cost of your crop on your own and leave the "free" money sitting on the table...

Look subsidies were sold and are still sold as "helping poor Ma and Pa Kent keep the farm in smallville" but the reality is we are now largely funding Archer Daniels Midland with the community chest to sell us food.

I don't hate the farmers for their weird Stockholm Syndrome lives either, in essence you now have the EPA and USDA running your farm through the zealous enforcement of insane "regulations" that now seek to penalize you if you kick up "too much dust."

The whole thing is a microcosm of why the US is fucked really.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 09:13 AM (SzZnW)

227 Posted by: Sal at August 03, 2016 09:06 AM (MRX6w)
*****
Thank you, Sal. That's what I think too. And, yeah, this pope has no possible way to accomplish whatever fantasies he entertains in his own mind.
See: Cardinal Raymond Burke on the limits of papal ministry and power

Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 09:14 AM (6IPEM)

228 Zod's a Tengrist. His pledging of his yurt and thermos proved it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 03, 2016 09:14 AM (6SBuM)

229 226 The whole thing is a microcosm of why the US is fucked really.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 09:13 AM (SzZnW)

But hey, if you are black you can get Pigford-II money for growing tomatoes on your front porch. Passed by a Democrat congress under Obama with help from a few Republicans in the House and a 60 dem Senate.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 09:15 AM (mpXpK)

230

Time to go outside and get some exercise and sun.

Have a good one all.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 03, 2016 09:15 AM (qCMvj)

231 Calling Trump certifiably insane: Fair Game

Pointing out that Obama lived as a Muslim throughout his formative years: UNSPEAKABLE CALUMNY

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 03, 2016 09:16 AM (mBYZv)

232 juvenile arthritis? somehow i didn't think that was a thing how awful

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 03, 2016 09:16 AM (F+xWX)

233

9. If you see a CoC sticker on a business, go elsewhere

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at August 03, 2016 09:17 AM (evdj2)

234 229 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 09:15 AM (mpXpK)

Yup....it is an insane asylum no doubt about it Vic....

We are going to be Rhodesia at some point I think.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 09:17 AM (SzZnW)

235 I've always wanted a yurt. That, and a redheaded sex slave seized in a raid on a village in Russia. Is that asking too much?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 03, 2016 09:17 AM (RD7QR)

236 But hey, if you are black you can get Pigford-II money for growing tomatoes on your front porch. Passed by a Democrat congress under Obama with help from a few Republicans in the House and a 60 dem Senate.

IIRC, the way Pigoford worked is if you are black and even thought about growing tomatoes on your porch but were discouraged because of racism. you get Money From Da Gubmint.

Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 09:18 AM (O7MnT)

237 There's a Pronounced Flaw in This Energy Discussion- a limerick

The power plant discussion is spectacular
And I hope you all won't think I'm too particular
But before we start the push
(As we learned from Dubya Bush)
Don't forget to say it properly. It's "Noo-cular"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 03, 2016 09:18 AM (NeFrd)

238 205
Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 08:57 AM (Bdeb0)
Criticizing Catholics seems to be what you do....Tread lightly. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 09:00 AM (Zu3d9)

That's correct. I think Catholicism is silly.

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 09:19 AM (Bdeb0)

239 237 There's a Pronounced Flaw in This Energy Discussion- a limerick

The power plant discussion is spectacular
And I hope you all won't think I'm too particular
But before we start the push
(As we learned from Dubya Bush)
Don't forget to say it properly. It's "Noo-cular"
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 03, 2016 09:18 AM (NeFrd)

Give it up Seamus, the subject is radioactive.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 03, 2016 09:19 AM (RD7QR)

240 Oh, and they have a crazy conspiracy theory involving Jesus getting a stand in for His crucifixion.

Posted by: Lauren at August 03, 2016 09:10 AM (KpRYi)

"Hey, Bill, can you do me a really really big favor? I'm supposed to be crucified on Friday and me and my buds want to make it look like I died and rose from the dead. We're starting a new religion you see. The whole problem is I really don't care for the dying part of it. Would you be willing to take one for the team? It'll hurt a bit and all -"

"No prob, Jesus! Anything for my main man!"

"Thanks a bunch Bill. Sorry I didn't make you an apostle. Just don't like the number 13."

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 03, 2016 09:19 AM (u0lmX)

241 I don't hate the farmers for their weird Stockholm Syndrome lives either, in essence you now have the EPA and USDA running your farm through the zealous enforcement of insane "regulations" that now seek to penalize you if you kick up "too much dust."
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Several years ago one of the gas pumps on my uncle's farm sprung a leak so a lot of gas spilled out into the ground. My grandpa told me to make sure my relatives from DC not find out about it because they would probably call the EPA and they would have to pay thousands of dollars to get it "cleaned up."

Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 03, 2016 09:20 AM (BDZWU)

242 Muldoon, your pun skills are decaying.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 03, 2016 09:20 AM (RKJF2)

243 As for letting the government build them, if by some miracle of insanity they did start doing that the cost would go up by an a 99E10th power, the construction time would up to infinity, and the quality would go down by the same amount. That is an insane idea.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 08:53 AM (mpXpK)

Vic, you haven't been paying attention for the last 8 years.

The government has the power to take over the entire healthcare industry, to mandate that you buy insurance and to tell you who will be caring for you.

For the government to say they are building 500 nuke plants on federal property and no lawsuits or delays are allowed due to national security is so simple it could be done in an afternoon with the stroke of a pen.

Also, who is going to speak up against free power to seniors, the disabled, widows and orphans? What monster could be for letting these special groups freeze in the winter and die of heat in the summer?

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 09:20 AM (Zs4uk)

244 On Comcast homepage, there is a headline that says the Obama and Kerry sent $400 million to Iran on the day the navy hostages were freed. Of course they don't say anything nefarious was taking place, they are "just doing their job" and "reporting" the news. Nothing to see...

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 03, 2016 09:20 AM (4ng05)

245 That's correct. I think Catholicism is silly.

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 09:19 AM (Bdeb0)

Good for you. But keep the attacks to yourself or you are gone.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 09:21 AM (Zu3d9)

246 I didn't see him criticizing Catholics at all.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Drooper at August 03, 2016 09:04 AM (pC96u

Then you haven't noticed all of his postings. its a continuation.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 03, 2016 09:21 AM (voOPb)

247 IIRC, the way Pigoford worked is if you are black and even thought about growing tomatoes on your porch but were discouraged because of racism. you get Money From Da Gubmint.

====

it's what Strange Fruit was all about

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 03, 2016 09:21 AM (F+xWX)

248 236 Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 09:18 AM (O7MnT)

Right and the level of proof of discrimination?

"Tell aunt Peggy Joesph your story honey chile"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 09:21 AM (SzZnW)

249 Good for you. But keep the attacks to yourself or you are gone. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 09:21 AM (Zu3d9)

The attacks on a denomination/faith? This board is replete with them.

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 09:22 AM (Bdeb0)

250 Something to remember about farmers: Many, many "farmers" live in cities and have never set foot on a farm. They own land, either personally or through REITs and collect subsidies. It's easy to have a position on subsidies when that is a factor in your nest continuing to be feathered.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 03, 2016 09:23 AM (4ng05)

251 241 Posted by: Serenity Now! at August 03, 2016 09:20 AM (BDZWU)

It's hardly a joke....I ran a fuel station at Ft Bliss.

The donks are for freedom of choice....

except for your gas can, light bulb, guns, etc etc etc

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 09:23 AM (SzZnW)

252 This was tear-jerking. It would have taken everything in me to not hit these a-holes.

And one of the a-holes uploads it to youtube, and what? expects sympathy?

They showed disrespect and ignorance. And they continued to intimidate and egg him on.

Its a federal felony to attempt to intimidate anyone over the age of 65.

Not that the DOJ would prosecute. However in Texas, any citizen has the right to use deadly force to prevent the commission of a felony - so we don't see much of that here.

Posted by: An Observation at August 03, 2016 09:23 AM (Cs/V0)

253
Congrats to #KorrynGaines followers on Facebook who were encouraging her not to "surrender" as she should have.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 03, 2016 09:23 AM (iQIUe)

254 See: Cardinal Raymond Burke on the limits of papal ministry and power
Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 09:14 AM (6IPEM)

And by impossiblility, I meant that Pope Francis can declare anything he wants, but that will not automatically make it so.

A misunderstanding that many people have about the job...

Just as two persons of the same gender are not the proper matter for Matrimony, women are not the proper matter for Holy Orders.

Posted by: Sal at August 03, 2016 09:23 AM (MRX6w)

255 That's correct. I think Catholicism is silly.
Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 09:19 AM
*****
Well, the feeling is mutual. No devout Catholic takes you seriously either. Thanks for putting your bias out in the open so that your opinions on the Catholic Church can be ignored fro here on out.

Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 09:24 AM (6IPEM)

256 250 Something to remember about farmers: Many, many "farmers" live in cities and have never set foot on a farm. They own land, either personally or through REITs and collect subsidies. It's easy to have a position on subsidies when that is a factor in your nest continuing to be feathered.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 03, 2016 09:23 AM (4ng05)

IIRC, Bruce Springsteen qualifies as a farmer by the above definition.

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 09:24 AM (7HtZB)

257 For the government to say they are building 500 nuke plants on federal property and no lawsuits or delays are allowed due to national security is so simple it could be done in an afternoon with the stroke of a pen.

If the government did this they would cost 10 times as much. Take 3 times longer to build. Go Chernobyl, and still be called successful and an improvement.

Posted by: buzzion at August 03, 2016 09:24 AM (bMG0w)

258 the jesus stand in thing goes back a long way, pre dating islam. they're not exactly original

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 03, 2016 09:25 AM (F+xWX)

259 253 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 03, 2016 09:23 AM (iQIUe)

No no we are marketing it as "brave gun loving skeet enthusiast mother died heroically fending off a police state."

//BLM

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 09:25 AM (SzZnW)

260 Hey ... while we're on the subject of bashing religions ...

... is there something like a The Reformation for Dummies ? I don't know alot about it. Would like to, without diving into some War and Peace tome.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 03, 2016 09:25 AM (RKJF2)

261 The attacks on a denomination/faith? This board is replete with them.

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 09:22 AM (Bdeb0)

This isn't a bargaining session.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 09:26 AM (Zu3d9)

262 Jwest, re-read what I said. My comments about the feds building the plants wasn't because of elimination of the eco-nazis. It was the general incompetence of the government to build ANYTHING, much less something as massive and complicated as a nuclear power plant.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 09:26 AM (mpXpK)

263 Don't diss the management. The cobs are ace's representatives and it's ace's blog.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 03, 2016 09:26 AM (RD7QR)

264 ... is there something like a The Reformation for Dummies ?

The political history? Or the dogmatic arguments?

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at August 03, 2016 09:26 AM (evdj2)

265 256 Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 09:24 AM (7HtZB)

Yup he grows less than a bushel of taters on his Pony Ring spread and voila "Bruce the Farmer"....

on the one hand "f*c* him" OTOH "why not?" it is not like the subsidies are REAL money or anything amiright Bruuuuuuccccee?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 09:27 AM (SzZnW)

266 Uh oh. There seems to have been some fallout from my last comment.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 03, 2016 09:27 AM (NeFrd)

267 >>> And by impossiblility, I meant that Pope Francis can declare anything he wants, but that will not automatically make it so.
****
Yeah, Sal. That's what I thought you meant. Hi friend!

Posted by: L, Elle at August 03, 2016 09:27 AM (6IPEM)

268 The attacks on a denomination/faith? This board is replete with them.

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 09:22 AM (Bdeb0)

What? Do jokes about green bean casseroles count as attacks on Lutheranism?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 03, 2016 09:27 AM (u0lmX)

269 "Roman Catholic Church to look at Female Deacons"
________________________________

Was this headline left over from Eye-Rape Tuesday?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2016 09:28 AM (KCQo0)

270 244 On Comcast homepage, there is a headline that says the Obama and Kerry sent $400 million to Iran on the day the navy hostages were freed. Of course they don't say anything nefarious was taking place, they are "just doing their job" and "reporting" the news. Nothing to see...
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 03, 2016 09:20 AM (4ng05)

Btw, the guy Kerry negotiated with on the Iran deal, that guy has a son. That son was the best man at the wedding of Kerry's daughter.

Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2016 09:28 AM (7lVbc)

271 Is this an O-pun thread?

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at August 03, 2016 09:28 AM (evdj2)

272 If the government did this they would cost 10 times as much. Take 3 times longer to build. Go Chernobyl, and still be called successful and an improvement.

Not if you call it national security and turn it over to the navy to run.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 03, 2016 09:28 AM (AY/TT)

273 This isn't a bargaining session. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 09:26 AM (Zu3d9)

Clearly. It's an example of one person saying they think something is silly. I don't expect anything in return.

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 09:28 AM (Bdeb0)

274 That is illegal in SC but I guess not in a blue State. And BTW, blue States got something like 75% of that "stimulus" and Republicans did bitch about that, but took no action.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 08:59 AM (mpXpK)

Not to argue, but I take some slight issue in the money from the stimulus that went to states, blue or red, and that is the money that was tagged 'stimulus' would have gone to those states whether there had been a stimulus or not. The stimulus tag got hung on crony capitalist payoffs to justify the idea of the stimulus, but the money, I still contend, evaporated.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at August 03, 2016 09:29 AM (4ng05)

275 Either/Or Grumpy. Keep in mind, I'm pretty damn literal ... so the dogmatic stuff will have to be simple or I'm gonna' get lost.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 03, 2016 09:29 AM (RKJF2)

276 Today, electrical power is civilization.

Add in superconductivity and catalysis research with electric motor improvements for my own Save the Environment program. This would get the few thinking Greens onboard.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 03, 2016 08:54 AM (hyuyC)

The great advances in civilizations always follow great advances in power generation. There are a million things we can't even conceive of that will happen when unlimited, practically free electric power is available.

Communities could decide if they wanted a plant close (exceptionally cheap power) or far away (more expensive). So, if Gary Indiana wanted a plant in town to supply new steel mills, the residents will have as much power as they want for a dollar or two per month. If the people of Malibu California are scared of nuclear power, they can pay to have it transmitted from a plant a few hundred miles away.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 09:29 AM (Zs4uk)

277 Forget about $400M to Iran.

What's important is Trump made a baby cry, then threw it out of the stadium.
Home run.
The crowd went wild!

Posted by: Media at August 03, 2016 09:29 AM (7lVbc)

278 Oh, and they have a crazy conspiracy theory involving Jesus getting a stand in for His crucifixion.

But yeah, they're mostly pissed at the blasphemy of the Godhead.

Of course, that doesn't explain their hatred of The Joooos, but I guess that's an issue for another issue!
Posted by: Lauren at August 03, 2016 09:10 AM (KpRYi)

That's not just ISIS, it's in the Hadith that all Muslims read and believe. Jesus was a prophet, who was "going" to die on the cross, but someone else took his place, and he will come again. To do what, they aren't really clear on, but they do believe he is coming again. They just deny his divinity and his gift of salvation, and think Mohammed is a better prophet because he is the "last" one.

Interestingly, Muslims in countries like Kuwait, Saudi, Jordan, etc, really want to talk about Christianity with Westerners. If they bring it up, you are free to talk about anything in the Bible. But if you bring it up, you are proselytizing, and can be imprisoned or deported.

Posted by: Moki at August 03, 2016 09:30 AM (ezHMO)

279 272 If the government did this they would cost 10 times as much. Take 3 times longer to build. Go Chernobyl, and still be called successful and an improvement.

Not if you call it national security and turn it over to the navy to run.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 03, 2016 09:28 AM (AY/TT)

F-35.

Posted by: buzzion at August 03, 2016 09:30 AM (bMG0w)

280 I heard on the radio on the way to work that Villanova University is arming their campus security, and the SJWs have a sadz.

I don't have a link to the audio that I heard, but there has GOT to be a thread for this today. The opportunities for mockery are limitless.

Posted by: rickl at August 03, 2016 09:30 AM (zoehZ)

281 >>The government has the power to take over the entire healthcare industry, to mandate that you buy insurance and to tell you who will be caring for you.

And how is that working out for everyone?

No, I do not want the government to take over the energy sector and start providing "free" electricity. Every time the government gives me something for free it costs me more money.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2016 09:30 AM (/tuJf)

282 Manafort is on suicide watch because Trump is uncontrollable!
He found the silverware Manafort hid in the filing cabinet and is using it on all the fried chicken!

Posted by: Media at August 03, 2016 09:31 AM (7lVbc)

283
What's important is Trump made a baby cry, then threw it out of the stadium.

And, if Hillary then ate that baby, it would be ignored.

The Dems don't win ANYTHING without the help of the dishonest press.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 03, 2016 09:32 AM (mBYZv)

284 If the government did this they would cost 10 times as much. Take 3 times longer to build. Go Chernobyl, and still be called successful and an improvement.

Posted by: buzzion at August 03, 2016 09:24 AM (bMG0w)

Just like the City of New York trying for 9 years and spending 13 million dollars to fix an ice skating rink, Trump can build it in 3 months under budget.

This is the perfect type of campaign promise that Trump can point to his expertise and the idea that he can eliminate the waste and fraud in the federal system to accomplish a big infrastructure project to help the country.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 09:33 AM (Zs4uk)

285
What? Do jokes about green bean casseroles count as attacks on Lutheranism?
_______________________

No, but the jokes about Luther's hair cut are hurtful.

(sniffs hurtful tears)

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2016 09:33 AM (KCQo0)

286 And, if Hillary then ate that baby, it would be ignored.

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She wouldn't just eat the baby - Planned Parenthood would have to prepare it first.

Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2016 09:33 AM (7lVbc)

287 That ex-Admiral kirby says "we don't pay ransom"

The Rent She Stays the Same!

Sigh. And we are losing to these shits?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2016 09:33 AM (zp+j1)

288 Donna V &&&&& green bean casseroles are fine. It's the green jello jokes that are hard hitting.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 03, 2016 09:34 AM (voOPb)

289 Uh oh. There seems to have been some fallout from my last comment.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 03, 2016 09:27 AM (NeFrd)

It's okay. The half-life is short.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 03, 2016 09:34 AM (JO9+V)

290 Give it up Seamus, the subject is radioactive.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 03, 2016 09:19 AM (RD7QR)

The thread has past it's half-life anyway.

Posted by: Dr. Ray Stantz at August 03, 2016 09:34 AM (KUaJL)

291 No, but the jokes about Luther's hair cut are hurtful.

(sniffs hurtful tears)

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
And Jello salads

Posted by: Bruce at August 03, 2016 09:34 AM (8ikIW)

292 It's okay. The half-life is short.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 03, 2016 09:34 AM (JO9+V)

I guess you've never been in the car with me when I fart on a bad day ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2016 09:35 AM (zp+j1)

293 Here's the Christ wasn't really killed conspiracy:

"Basilides, an early Christian preacher who died around 140 CE, was convinced -likely due to studying the Gospel of Matthew with his teachers, who reportedly had an authentic copy thereof - that Jesus was not crucified, but that it was Simon of Cyrene who died upon the cross. Irenaeus quotes Basilides' belief, saying, "Wherefore he did not himself su er death, but Simon, a certain man of Cyrene, being compelled, bore the cross in his stead; so that this latter being trans gured by him, that he might be thought to be Jesus, was cruci ed, through ignorance and error" (Against Heresies I 24:4)"

Posted by: Lauren at August 03, 2016 09:35 AM (KpRYi)

294 IIRC, Bruce Springsteen qualifies as a farmer by the above definition.

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 09:24 AM (7HtZB)

Don't forget Jon Bon Jovi, Ted Turner and the likes are also "farmers"

Posted by: Timon at August 03, 2016 09:35 AM (396pH)

295 At last! Some glowing reports!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 03, 2016 09:35 AM (NeFrd)

296 Morning horde. Happy Wednesday.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 03, 2016 09:36 AM (mEZce)

297 Hey Muldoon. Niedermeyer's Dead Horse was looking for you last night. Apparently it has something to do with your hobby of being a heart doctor rather than your job of being a bad pun provider.

Posted by: buzzion at August 03, 2016 09:36 AM (bMG0w)

298
European leaders have allowed ISIS to set up a network in europe yet Merkel and Holland, and others, are still in office.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 03, 2016 09:36 AM (iQIUe)

299 272 Not if you call it national security and turn it over to the navy to run.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 03, 2016 09:28 AM (AY/TT)

Navy power plants are NOTHING like the civilian ones. Unfortunately I can not tell you why because they are classified under a system that does not allow them to ever be declassified.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 09:36 AM (mpXpK)

300 293 Here's the Christ wasn't really killed conspiracy:

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It's kind of reassuring to know that we've always had conspiracy theorists.

Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2016 09:36 AM (7lVbc)

301 i looked at TRumps schedule for the next couple of days - rallies/townhalls in battle ground states. that stupid woman - nonstop funraising, urban league "event", manufacturing tours (!). what a loser

Posted by: runner at August 03, 2016 09:37 AM (c6/9Q)

302 European leaders have allowed ISIS to set up a network in europe yet Merkel and Holland, and others, are still in office.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 03, 2016 09:36 AM (iQIUe)

And have the audacity to take shots at Trump!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2016 09:37 AM (zp+j1)

303 At last! Some glowing reports!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 03, 2016 09:35 AM (NeFrd)

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Were keeping an ion you....

Posted by: fixerupper at August 03, 2016 09:37 AM (8XRCm)

304 I can not tell you why because they are classified under a system that does not allow them to ever be declassified.

Posted by: Vic

That's what YOU think

Hic

Posted by: Bruce at August 03, 2016 09:37 AM (8ikIW)

305 The problem with infrastructure spending is the GOP spent years touting the wonders of building schools, roads, etc. in places like Iraq. It is a bad political message to say you want to spend money rebuilding other countries while you don't want to do it here. Granted the GOP moved away from that message somewhat in the last few years, but not enough. It appears they are enamored with the British experience putting down communist in Malaysia. Too much so in my opinion.

Anyway it would be nice if McCain lost his primary. Paul Ryan losing his primary would also be good and would make up for any gains by the CofC.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2016 09:38 AM (KhJh8)

306 If they bring it up, you are free to talk about anything in the Bible. But if you bring it up, you are proselytizing, and can be imprisoned or deported.
____________________

When I was stationed in Kuwait, the locals would always bring up Christianity at the diwaniyas.

I would let them talk and I would listen, but I would ABSOLUTELY not respond for fear of be charged with prostletyzing -- the Kuwaitis or the U.S. military.

If I could have responded, I would have buried them in their false beliefs.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2016 09:38 AM (KCQo0)

307

Posted by: Bruce at August 03, 2016 09:38 AM (8ikIW)

308 It's kind of reassuring to know that we've always had conspiracy theorists.

Did Hannibal really cross the Alps with Elephants, or is that just what Ceasar wants you to think?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 03, 2016 09:38 AM (9krrF)

309 300 293 Here's the Christ wasn't really killed conspiracy:

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It's kind of reassuring to know that we've always had conspiracy theorists.
Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2016 09:36 AM (7lVbc)

Human nature is the same as it ever was, which is why ancient works are still relevant today.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 03, 2016 09:39 AM (RD7QR)

310 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 03, 2016 09:35 AM (NeFrd)

There's a small, deeply disturbed nucleus of commenters who like your punning....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 03, 2016 09:39 AM (Zu3d9)

311 That's what YOU think

Hic
Posted by: Bruce at August 03, 2016 09:37 AM (8ikIW)

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH!!!!

**hic**

Posted by: Hillary!! at August 03, 2016 09:39 AM (8XRCm)

312 Posted by: Lauren at August 03, 2016 09:35 AM (KpRYi)

Quite the conspiracy.
The turning water to wine wasn't enough for them?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 03, 2016 09:39 AM (voOPb)

313 Increased infrastructure spending should be offset with reductions in welfare payments. That welfare check is now a paycheck - now go fill those potholes.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at August 03, 2016 09:39 AM (nFdGS)

314 Did Hannibal really cross the Alps with Elephants, or is that just what Ceasar wants you to think?

Posted by: Brother Cavil

Or Shillary in a gray pantsuit?

Posted by: Bruce at August 03, 2016 09:40 AM (8ikIW)

315 Another thing...

If Trump had a press conference this afternoon and announce this 500 nuke plant program, do you think we would ever hear of Khan again?

This is the type of big, imagination-grabbing idea that can capture the general public and give them a reason to vote for Trump.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 09:40 AM (Zs4uk)

316 Sure, spend a billion on infrastructure. The funds are easy to get--just spend the money allocated on infrastructure instead of diverting them into some donors' pockets for once.

Easy peasy!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 03, 2016 09:40 AM (9krrF)

317 308 It's kind of reassuring to know that we've always had conspiracy theorists.

Did Hannibal really cross the Alps with Elephants, or is that just what Ceasar wants you to think?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 03, 2016 09:38 AM (9krrF)

It does make one wonder how much ancient history, where there are so few sources, is factual & how much may be made up to one degree or another.

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 09:40 AM (7HtZB)

318 >>You'd prefer localities funding their own nuclear plants? Would those same localities also be responsible for monitoring them? Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 08:58 AM (Bdeb0)

>>I
am for removing the never-ending useless regulations that are ordered
by the commissioners appointed by Democrats. And removing the ability of
the eco-nazis to serial litigate. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 09:08 AM (mpXpK)

Agree. I'd think that even eco-types could get behind nuclear power generation: much smaller footprint, self-sufficient Pu plants, no fossil fuel use, efficient...seems like it could be marketed that way. Not sure why it hasn't crossed the ideological divide.

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 09:40 AM (Bdeb0)

319 Here is what Fox said about the "stimulus" money in 2013.

http://tinyurl.com/jhg9kek

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 09:40 AM (mpXpK)

320 I see Kansas Republican farmers are just like any other Free Shit Army soldier.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at August 03, 2016 09:40 AM (/wcVO)

321 Good tidings and sunshine, everyone!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 03, 2016 09:41 AM (9ym/8)

322 When I was stationed in Kuwait, the locals would always bring up Christianity at the diwaniyas.

I would let them talk and I would listen, but I would ABSOLUTELY not respond for fear of be charged with prostletyzing -- the Kuwaitis or the U.S. military.

If I could have responded, I would have buried them in their false beliefs.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2016 09:38 AM (KCQo0)

When were you in Kuwait? I was there right after the first Gulf War.

Yeah, the rules were different for the military-we State wonks had a wee bit more flexibility.

Posted by: Moki at August 03, 2016 09:41 AM (ezHMO)

323 t does make one wonder how much ancient history, where there are so few sources, is factual & how much may be made up to one degree or another.
Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 09:40 AM (7HtZB)

Kinda like "The World according to Fredo"?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2016 09:41 AM (zp+j1)

324 318 Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 09:40 AM (Bdeb0)

because the Goreons are not interested in "forcing western civ to be cleaner" they want to destroy western civ.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 09:42 AM (SzZnW)

325 It does make one wonder how much ancient history,
where there are so few sources, is factual how much may be made up
to one degree or another.

Posted by: josephistan

Even modern history.
See the JEF

Posted by: Bruce at August 03, 2016 09:42 AM (8ikIW)

326 Jwest -

'Trump vows to nuke women, children, blacks, Muslims, immigrants, and LGBTQXYZ'

That would be the headline and meme.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 03, 2016 09:42 AM (6SBuM)

327 315 Another thing...

If Trump had a press conference this afternoon and announce this 500 nuke plant program, do you think we would ever hear of Khan again?

This is the type of big, imagination-grabbing idea that can capture the general public and give them a reason to vote for Trump.
Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 09:40 AM (Zs4uk)

It's too wonkish. Just saying "power plant infrastructure" causes journalists to roll their eyes and fall asleep.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 03, 2016 09:42 AM (RD7QR)

328 Posted by: Lauren at August 03, 2016 09:35 AM (KpRYi)

Always look on the bright side of life. *whistles*

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 03, 2016 09:42 AM (JO9+V)

329 MOAR Isis conspiracy:

Paul was an eeeeevil joooo who purposely corrupted Jesus's message because, jooooo.

Posted by: Lauren at August 03, 2016 09:43 AM (KpRYi)

330 I mean, if thousands of years from now all that survived are Michael Moore's movies & Howard Zinn's books, what would future historians think about our civilization?

Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 09:43 AM (7HtZB)

331 Y'know, all the Trump supporters who thought that he was brilliantly using the media in the primary... I wonder if they have woke up and realized that all that free publicity he was getting was because the MFM wanted to make sure Hillary got the weakest possible opponent. Not because he was a brilliant manipulator of the media.

Posted by: V the K at August 03, 2016 08:26 AM (O7MnT)

This 'push the loser' Democratic Party strategyhas beenpointed out to Trump supporters on several occasions. The most notable recent example was the McCaskill campaign's successful effort in Missouri getting Democrats to crossover vote for Todd 'Legitimate Rape' Akinin the Republican primary.

I personally believe Trump received an inordinateshare of mediacoverage during the primaries to push him to the forefront, but it may be just because Trump, already a reality TV star and public figure,makes for good copy. Who knows? No way of proving it.

Posted by: troyriser at August 03, 2016 09:43 AM (OGbEB)

332 313
Increased infrastructure spending should be offset with reductions in
welfare payments. That welfare check is now a paycheck - now go fill
those potholes.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at August 03, 2016 09:39 AM (nFdGS)
Interestingly enough, there are three states (Maine being one) which re instituted a work requirement for welfare recipients who are single with no dependents. Welfare rolls for that group dropped something like 80%.

Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed - Sorry Ben, we f*cked it up at August 03, 2016 09:43 AM (jxbfJ)

333 >>If I could have responded, I would have buried them in their false beliefs.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2016 09:38 AM (KCQo0)

Ask a Sunni to consider the implementation of Islamic ijtihad in their own community. That's sure to start "animated" discussion...

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 09:43 AM (Bdeb0)

334 F-35.
Posted by: buzzion

Subs.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 03, 2016 09:43 AM (AY/TT)

335
UK Keystone Kops:

https://goo.gl/zlLlnq

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 03, 2016 09:44 AM (iQIUe)

336 She wouldn't just eat the baby - Planned Parenthood would have to ~~prepare it~~ part it out first.

Suggested edit

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 03, 2016 09:44 AM (ptqRm)

337 No, but the jokes about Luther's hair cut are hurtful.

(sniffs hurtful tears)

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2016 09:33 AM (KCQo0)

You know, if Luther lived today he could go to President Hollande's hair stylist and pay $20,000 to look no better than Hollande does.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 03, 2016 09:44 AM (u0lmX)

338 To get the taste buds fired up, mouth drooling, and stomach rumbling - airline food of the past.

http://www.ufunk.net/en/food/vintage-airline-2/

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 03, 2016 09:45 AM (YzoAJ)

339 Not sure why it hasn't crossed the ideological divide.

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 09:40 AM (Bdeb0)

Because the outcome they care about isn't really a cleaner environment. It's the setting up of a sustainable (see what I did there?) wealth redistribution system.

Nuclear power is an unacceptable solution because it doesn't do that.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 03, 2016 09:45 AM (KUaJL)

340
In one year, Police arrest 900 Syrians in England and Wales for crimes including rape and child abuse

http://goo.gl/Lu2qeR

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 03, 2016 09:45 AM (iQIUe)

341 My dad was an Infectious Diseases prof. He loved to collect euphemisms for the various gastrointenstinally challenged places around the world.

The Technicolor Yawn

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at August 03, 2016 09:45 AM (WlGX+)

342 337 Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 03, 2016 09:44 AM (u0lmX)

someone may want to explain to Pierre Hollande that "hairclub for dudes" costs ~ 30 grand IIRC....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 03, 2016 09:45 AM (SzZnW)

343 I mean, if thousands of years from now all that survived are Michael Moore's movies & Howard Zinn's books, what would future historians think about our civilization?

They would think we had some shitty historians, roughly like how we think of the Historia Augusta or Sayf bin Umar.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 03, 2016 09:46 AM (DPMiu)

344 >>Because the outcome they care about isn't really a
cleaner environment. It's the setting up of a sustainable (see what I
did there?) wealth redistribution system.
Nuclear power is an unacceptable solution because it doesn't do that. Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 03, 2016 09:45 AM (KUaJL)

I suppose you're right. Better to curse the darkness than split an isotope.

Posted by: General Zod at August 03, 2016 09:47 AM (Bdeb0)

345 314 Did Hannibal really cross the Alps with Elephants, or is that just what Ceasar wants you to think?"

Caesar was one of the first who was on to the dangers of Republicans. "Here come Elephants! Oh noes!!!"

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 03, 2016 09:47 AM (u0lmX)

346 Always look on the bright side of life. *whistles*

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 03, 2016 09:42 AM (JO9+V)

-----

Keep on the Sunni side
Always on the Sunni side
Keep on the Sunni siiiiiide of liiiiiiife!!!!

**hic**

Posted by: Hillary!! at August 03, 2016 09:47 AM (8XRCm)

347 247 IIRC, the way Pigoford worked is if you are black and even thought about growing tomatoes on your porch but were discouraged because of racism. you get Money From Da Gubmint.
________________

If you are black and willing to sign an affidavit that said you once thought about farming but were discouraged because of racism, you got a $50,000.00 check from the U.S. Treasury, courtesy of the Pigford scam, of which Obama was a part.

There were black lawyers running seminars telling blacks how to get their Pigford checks. It was outright fraud, in billions of dollars, that was aided and abetted by the corrupt Obama administration.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 03, 2016 09:47 AM (NnYnv)

348 @ 38 - "Yes to that point. Infrastructure is code for Big Government Graft and payoffs to Big Labor.
NO."

I'm not so sure that being against roads and bridges because TRUMP! is a winning position...

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at August 03, 2016 09:47 AM (A9HFK)

349 "It's too wonkish. Just saying "power plant infrastructure" causes journalists to roll their eyes and fall asleep."

I'm pretty sure Trump said nobody would need to pay for heat, air conditioning or other power ever again, it would get the public's attention.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 09:48 AM (Zs4uk)

350 WhatWhatWhat -

We called it 'the glorious Technicolor yawn.'

Regionalism, doubtless.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 03, 2016 09:48 AM (6SBuM)

351 I personally believe Trump received an inordinateshare of mediacoverage during the primaries to push him to the forefront,

Who is weaker? Trump or Jeb!?

Please clap.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 03, 2016 09:49 AM (AY/TT)

352 Some suggestions for the art thread

http://www.ufunk.net/en/?p=178001

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 03, 2016 09:49 AM (ptqRm)

353 If you are black and willing to sign an affidavit that said you once thought about farming but were discouraged because of racism, you got a $50,000.00 check from the U.S. Treasury, courtesy of the Pigford scam, of which Obama was a part.

There were black lawyers running seminars telling blacks how to get their Pigford checks. It was outright fraud, in billions of dollars, that was aided and abetted by the corrupt Obama administration.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 03, 2016 09:47 AM (NnYnv)

Do you know how much that final tally ended up being? Because maybe that could be subtracted from whatever reparations number they are screaming about. Seems like that would justify as a "reparations."

Posted by: Moki at August 03, 2016 09:50 AM (ezHMO)

354 Caesar was one of the first who was on to the dangers of Republicans. "Here come Elephants! Oh noes!!!"

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 03, 2016 09:47 AM (u0lmX)

That works on so many levels

Posted by: @votermom at August 03, 2016 09:50 AM (7lVbc)

355 Art up.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at August 03, 2016 09:50 AM (AY/TT)

356 >>I'm pretty sure Trump said nobody would need to pay for heat, air conditioning or other power ever again, it would get the public's attention.

Including the many sentient beings who would point out that it is complete nonsense. Do you honestly believe if the government does something that industry used to charge for it becomes free?

If you're trying to help Trump I would suggest going a different route.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2016 09:51 AM (/tuJf)

357 Nuke plants to run desalinization facilities could help with Cali's drought. But it's not supposed to get better. The intent is widespread misery, big profits, and the opportunity for goodthinkers to be able to go down on themselves in a fit of self righteousness.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 03, 2016 09:52 AM (6SBuM)

358 I thereby apologize to all Lutherans who were deeply triggered, traumatized and offended when I made mock of green jello salads. I was insensitive.

However, I reserve the right to jeer at and scorn lutefisk.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 03, 2016 09:52 AM (u0lmX)

359 The GOP really should change its mascot to some sort of weasel, because "lying cocksucker" isn't a species.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 03, 2016 09:53 AM (97XyN)

360 With sign-ups for health coverage through the Affordable Care Act due to start in three months, the price of insurance on the marketplace for New Jersey will go up by 5 to 26 percent in 2017 price hikes that reflect continued market flux as Obamacare enters its fourth year.

Rate filings made public this week show that health insurance premiums for individual customers appear to be rising faster than health care costs, as props in the law to help insurers weather the markets early turbulence are removed.

But customers wont see those increases unless they renew the exact same coverage they had this year. They can switch plans to get a better price, something more than 40 percent of New Jerseys returning customers did this year.

???

Sure they can donwgrade their plans to one's with higher dedcutables and less American trained DRs who actually speak English or are not Vets.

What a clusterfuck and The FAB is gong to win? Oh SMOD why have thou forsaken us?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 03, 2016 09:54 AM (zp+j1)

361
It's kind of reassuring to know that we've always had conspiracy theoristsu

====

"the conspiracy theorists will always be with you"

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at August 03, 2016 09:54 AM (F+xWX)

362 It does make one wonder how much ancient history, where there are so few sources, is factual & how much may be made up to one degree or another.
Posted by: josephistan at August 03, 2016 09:40 AM (7HtZB)

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Some of the late Roman Empire material seems bogus, like claiming there is this huge army that never seems to be there whenever some Goths or other assorted barbarians show up.

Of course I am sure future historians might be baffled by America having this huge army and yet cannot stop anyone from crossing the southern border. Historians will ask one day...Why did Obama "The Pious Jerk" not use his legions? It must have been a paper army...so who knows about late American Republican sources.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 03, 2016 09:55 AM (KhJh8)

363 IOC of the F-35A after fifteen years from initial award of contract.. why am I reminded of a story from 2005 - "After ten years and $8bn over budget..."

Of course they were talking about the Eurofighter Typhoon and when one of them tangled with two F-15Es and won.

Another thing both share in common. The Typhoon was supposed to have been in service by 1987, the same year the Royal Navy and USMC started looking to replace the Harrier family with what became the JSF/F-35.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 03, 2016 09:55 AM (YzoAJ)

364 Well, here's a feel good story....

John Conyers won his primary contest last night to represent Detroit and southern and western Wayne county in the House of Representatives.He beat out his challenger, a 58 year old black woman who has served as Detroit City Clerk.

Conyers is 87 years old and has been in Congress for.....50 years.

Since Detroit will not elect any republican to any seat for any reason, Conyers is assured of winning his house seat again. Unless he dies first.

A voter was interviewed last night about why she was voting for Conyers. She said because he is all she has ever known. She didn't know this other woman.

And apparently, didn't care to find out anything about her. Another voter said that she thought Winfrey, the opposition candidate, had done some "shady" things while she was in Detroit Gov.

She must thing Conyers, whose wife was imprisoned for theft in office and taking bribes, and whose combined assets with John are in bankruptcy territory vs. what they owe, are "not" shady.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 03, 2016 09:55 AM (NNq1n)

365 I'm not even gonna click on that Mediaite article that says Trump kept asking why he couldn't use nukes during an intel briefing.

Posted by: Chile is Nice This Time of the Century at August 03, 2016 09:56 AM (Jh20h)

366 Including the many sentient beings who would point out that it is complete nonsense. Do you honestly believe if the government does something that industry used to charge for it becomes free?

If you're trying to help Trump I would suggest going a different route.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2016 09:51 AM (/tuJf)

If you impose the same regulations the nuclear industry endures on a lemonade stand, the cost of glass would be $27,000.

By eliminating the red tape, you lower cost to 25 cents, thereby delivering the same product practically for free.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 09:56 AM (Zs4uk)

367 Only a real alpha builds a nuclear reactor.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 03, 2016 09:58 AM (0mRoj)

368
Maduro appoints general Reverol as interior minister despite drug charges in the US

http://dw.com/p/1Jabt

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 03, 2016 10:00 AM (iQIUe)

369 >>By eliminating the red tape, you lower cost to 25 cents, thereby delivering the same product practically for free.

And it never happens. You know this. Don't pretend that Trump has some magical powers that will allow him to change how an embedded bureaucracy operates.

Besides, this just reinforces what I don't like about Trump. I don't want a strong man to come in and nationalize industries. That is the antithesis of America. If I want that I can just vote for Hillary.

If Trump wants to impress then he can talk about working to remove as many crushing regulations as possible to let private industry do what it does far better than government ever has or could.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 03, 2016 10:00 AM (/tuJf)

370 353 Do you know how much that final tally ended up
being? Because maybe that could be subtracted from whatever reparations
number they are screaming about. Seems like that would justify as a
"reparations."

Posted by: Moki at August 03, 2016 09:50 AM (ezHMO)

In 2010 congress appropriated another $1.15B because the original funding had ran out. The total amount of money appropriated came to $1.25B. And if things hold true to form Obama will give more than was appropriated.

And nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 03, 2016 10:00 AM (mpXpK)

371 "Besides, this just reinforces what I don't like about Trump. I don't want a strong man to come in and nationalize industries. That is the antithesis of America. If I want that I can just vote for Hillary."

If it wasn't the nuclear industry, I would be with you. Just the nature of the beast and the extent of the special regulations and concerns in this one particular sector require special action.

Posted by: jwest at August 03, 2016 10:05 AM (Zs4uk)

372 300 293 Here's the Christ wasn't really killed conspiracy:
__________________

Yeah, those Romans were pikers when it came to crucifixions.

And the Jewish high priests who absolutely were threatened by Christ were good with identity theft when it came to executing the one guy they were threatened by.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 03, 2016 10:07 AM (KCQo0)

373 321 Good tidings and sunshine, everyone!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 03, 2016 09:41 AM (9ym/

That's my boy!!!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 03, 2016 10:18 AM (voOPb)

374 The Technicolor Yawn

Laughing at the ground.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at August 03, 2016 10:34 AM (evdj2)

375 Only a real alpha builds a nuclear reactor.

Or a Super Villain.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at August 03, 2016 10:36 AM (evdj2)

376 is there something like a The Reformation for Dummies ? I don't know alot about it. Would like to, without diving into some War and Peace tome.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 03, 2016 09:25 AM (RKJF2)

I really like Hillaire Belloc's "How the Reformation Happened".
More history than dogma. Catholic, but not polemic.

He illustrates the arc of the events using the life of an everyman of the times- what changed when, why and by whom and the effects.

It's old (192

, but had held up well. Plus, no PC.

Posted by: Sal at August 03, 2016 10:54 AM (MRX6w)

377 Yes, Huelskamp was an avid Never Trumper. Please watch this interview to get why he was tossed out yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-EkNBhXLNM

You really think that this year is about candidates who are propped up by big business $$ and lobbyists? Uh, no.

Marshall won b/c Huelskamp has been in the Cruz camp for a long time. He is just like Ryan who bad mouthed Trump even as he won the primaries.

Typically, when an incumbent loses a primary in August it is because grass roots voters are motivated to get him OUT. These were not big business supporters who rallied to get to the polls.

I'm also assuming Ryan is in a lot more trouble that we are being told. Guess we'll see next week. The polls for Kansas were way off, I'm suspecting the polls for Wisconsin may be the same.

Posted by: K-E at August 03, 2016 11:08 AM (eIZ0x)

378 Still trying to process the info in the sidebar...

"I haven't listened to this album since college."

Really?! I prefer "Wish You Were Here", and always did like "Animals" for the guitar in "Dogs"- and the bit they did on WKRP--The video ishere.

But but but... really???? "Time"? "Money"? "The Great Gig in the Sky"? " Breathe"? "Brain Damage"?

What the hell is wrong with some people?

Posted by: Scott at August 03, 2016 03:54 PM (82LNv)

379 You don't take links? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYQ-g99V_cQ

Posted by: Scott at August 03, 2016 03:56 PM (82LNv)

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