There Is A Big Difference Between Trump Criticizing General Allen And Him Criticizing The Father Of A Fallen Soldier [CBD]

I'm nobody, but if anyone lost a child in combat they could scream "you fuckhead" to my face and I'd shut up and take it
— Dave in Texas (@DaveinTexas) July 31, 2016

Khan's son Humayun, a Captain in the United States Army, was killed by a car bomb in Iraq in 2004. He was awarded a Bronze Star and a Purple heart.

Khizr Khan spoke to Trump onstage, saying "Have you ever been to Arlington cemetery? Go look at the graves of brave Americans who died defending United States of America. You will see all faiths, genders and ethnicities. You have sacrificed nothing." Khan also questioned if Trump had ever read the Constitution and offered to lend him his copy.

Trump's response?

"Who wrote that? Did Hillary's script writers write it?" .... "I think I've made a lot of sacrifices. I work very, very hard."

Dave in Texas is 100% correct.

But....here is Trump criticizing General John Allen, the architect of our first failed strategy to combat ISIS.

"Let me tell you, I think my kids have more star power, I really do. I think they do, than everybody I saw," Trump said of the DNC. "They had a general named John Allen. And he, I never met him, and he got up and he started talking about Trump, Trump, Trump. Never met him
"And you know who he is? He's a failed, he was the general fighting ISIS. I would say he hasn't done so well, right? Not so well."

I loathe Trump & hate how childishly he expresses criticisms but there's nothing that says generals are untouchable. https://t.co/BdkcYP2cVA
— MoxieMom (@moxiemom) July 30, 2016

And Y-not is correct too.

We have civilian oversight of our armed forces, and we as Americans have our natural rights of free speech, which includes the right to criticize our political and military leaders.

Addendum

Captain Khan, killed 12 years ago, was a hero, but this is about RADICAL ISLAMIC TERROR and the weakness of our "leaders" to eradicate it!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 31, 2016

This is pitch perfect.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 12:00 PM

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1 frist

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at July 31, 2016 12:05 PM (Zrx+N)

2 Yup.

Posted by: steve walsh at July 31, 2016 12:05 PM (SPxQP)

3 This is all becoming just so much background noise that I find it difficult to get riled up one way or the other.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 12:06 PM (0mRoj)

4 Can't wait for Trump's update of his attack on McCain: "I prefer soldiers who didn't get blown up."

Posted by: il padrino at July 31, 2016 12:07 PM (TasoZ)

5 The hand wringing continues unimpeded.

Tomorrow or the next day or the next another bout.

On and on.

And so it goes.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 31, 2016 12:07 PM (dPrPG)

6 Trump did not criticize Mr. Khan. He merely responded to his emotional and political attack.
It is absurd for Mr. Khan to hold Trump responsible for his son's death 12 years and two presidents ago.
Trump had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: NeoKong at July 31, 2016 12:08 PM (XSGUa)

7 Yup, we have the next Cindy Sheehan.

Trump needs to not say things like that - this is a classic Dem move, using victims to attack opponents.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 12:08 PM (NOIQH)

8 I will say trump needs to not feel like he wins every exchange

Keep your eye on the prize, these are traps

Posted by: Ghetto at July 31, 2016 12:09 PM (BCelo)

9 I haven't watched the video.

Did dad vehemently attack the Moslem terrorists who did it as he did the misrepresentation of Trump's immigration policy?

Posted by: andycanuck at July 31, 2016 12:10 PM (LdMbv)

10 Have to ask: Any the MSM/pundits outraged by Trump also criticizing Hillary for calling the family of the Benghazi dead liars?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 12:10 PM (NOIQH)

11 I gotta say, I don't know what this story is about. Read the link.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 31, 2016 12:11 PM (9ym/8)

12 6 Trump did not criticize Mr. Khan. He merely responded to his emotional and political attack.
It is absurd for Mr. Khan to hold Trump responsible for his son's death 12 years and two presidents ago.
Trump had nothing to do with it.
Posted by: NeoKong at July 31, 2016 12:08 PM (XSGUa)

==============
THIS is 100% correct.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 31, 2016 12:11 PM (iQIUe)

13 I'm so fucking tired of this election season, the madness can't end soon enough.

Trump could stand to tone it down a bit when responding to other citizens (who the fuck cares if he lights up other Pols & what not) but idfk, he does that the Dems will send more after him. No win scenario, like Lizzy said.

Posted by: Gaff at July 31, 2016 12:11 PM (0YV0o)

14 Trump stepped into a trap with Khan. Trump is a fighter, but he's a reflexive, mechanical one. Oppose Trump? He's going to fight you and say how terrible you are. Praise Trump? You're wondeful.

He seems incapable of not responding to attacks that are setups. Expect the Democrats to parade a bunch of sympathetic people before the country now, all of whom will attack Trump for something. The golden illegal immigrant who saved a bus load of nuns. etc. All so that they can paint Trump as a monster when he inevitably responds.

The attacks and the responses aren't meant for us -- those who follow the news and politics and can parse the words said and make philosophic defensive statements in response. The attacks are meant for those who dont really know what is going on, but see Trump attacking someone who looks sympathetic.

Posted by: Revenant at July 31, 2016 12:11 PM (3DSAh)

15 Khaaaaaaaaaaannnnnn!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Weasel at July 31, 2016 12:11 PM (zNvaH)

16 You know what?

You lose your moral superiority when you use your pain and sacrifice to promote the very evils that cost you your child. I feel for the man and his pain. I respect his service and his son's. But he doesn't get to use that as a bludgeon to attack just everyone in order to get someone in office that hates the military and all it stands for.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:12 PM (39g3+)

17 Depends. W "shut up and took it" from Sheehan. It wasn't helpful politically though it was the only decent thing to do. The left showcased her then dropped her like a hot rock when she no longer had utility. Sad.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 31, 2016 12:12 PM (JO9+V)

18 17: This is exactly right. If Trump wins, Khan will be a go-to figure of sympathy throughout his tenure. If Hillary (urgh) wins, he'll vanish like a ghostly hitchhiker.

Posted by: il padrino at July 31, 2016 12:14 PM (TasoZ)

19 Trump's policy is Not #Nice.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 31, 2016 12:14 PM (LdMbv)

20 But he doesn't get to use that as a bludgeon to attack just everyone in order to get someone in office that hates the military and all it stands for.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:12 PM (39g3+)

Oh yes he does!

Posted by: MSM at July 31, 2016 12:14 PM (TwnkX)

21 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 31, 2016 12:11 PM (9ym/

Trump needs to pick his battles. That's the point....or at least one of them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 12:14 PM (Zu3d9)

22 He shouldn't have taken the bait, I will say that. But this soldier was killed in 2004. It has no bearing on Trump or his states policies whatsoever. Khan is just being a willing dupe for the DNC and letting them trade on his son's death for political points.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 12:14 PM (0mRoj)

23 *stated

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 12:15 PM (0mRoj)

24
Why do American soliders who died in combat get brownie points bc they are muslim? Is it because no one expects them to be loyal?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 31, 2016 12:15 PM (iQIUe)

25 types and deletes

A lot of hand wringing going on.

Stay sane, my friends.

Posted by: Some guy at July 31, 2016 12:15 PM (QCc6B)

26 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:12 PM (39g3+)

Very well said.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 12:15 PM (0mRoj)

27 OT - The pope said, "Don't use the borders as barriers."

Job 24:2 says, "The wicked displace boundary markers. They steal a flock a feed on them."

Posted by: Dang at July 31, 2016 12:15 PM (k0G44)

28 Trump foreign policy is against the kind of war that killed Khan's son. Khan seemed to argue that non-citizens have constitutional rights they do not actually have. Trump's immigration proposals may be bad policy but they are not unconstitutional.

Posted by: quasimodus at July 31, 2016 12:16 PM (5CS2l)

29 So, Trump wants to ban immigration of Muslims until we have better screening. Dems push Mr. Khan out in front of world as if to say, "even Mulsims die for the USA!"

Great straw man.

No one, including Trump, is saying Muslims, or Lutherans, or Mex-Americans, or even Democrats aren't willing to die for THEIR country (USA).

Some of us just believe we have to do better screening of MUSLIMS now entering USA, unless we want to become Germany, or France, or UK... We already have an issue with native-born USA Muslims terrorizing fellow citizen. Is it even controversial that we should carefully watch new Muslims coming in?

Posted by: Joe Fredericks at July 31, 2016 12:16 PM (BY/vB)

30 That father got up and spoke on behalf of someone who would bring thousands of satanic, islamic terrorists here.
She works to enrich herself and gain power by working for those who must have this country brought to its knees before they can have their satanic global govt.

Posted by: teej at July 31, 2016 12:16 PM (jUilJ)

31 Humayun Khan was killed by a Muslim. The meme that the Dims want is that Trump and Republicans in general are racist. That was Mr. Khan's insinuation, so I'm meh on Trump's response.

Posted by: Gungrabby McGrabberson at July 31, 2016 12:16 PM (2X7pN)

32 Trump is a fighter, but he's a reflexive, mechanical one. Oppose Trump? He's going to fight you and say how terrible you are. Praise Trump? You're wonderful. He seems incapable of not responding to attacks that are setups.

The internet term is "lolcow". Most kids learn that when they behave like this in school, the teasing won't stop.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 31, 2016 12:16 PM (/pUiX)

33 Mr. Khan gave a speech at a national political convention attacking a candidate. He wasn't forced to do this and he stepped into the public political arena of his own accord. He isn't above reproach even though his story is a sympathetic one and responding to his attacks isn't out of bounds.

Trump could have done a better job crafting his statement, however.

Posted by: Motorhead at July 31, 2016 12:16 PM (CSCqJ)

34 ...if anyone lost a child in combat they could scream "you fuckhead" to my face and I'd shut up and take it.

****

I'm going to have to disagree with this sentiment for a couple of reasons.

1. He didn't lose a child. He lost an adult. Adults being autonomous in a mature society, the choices, efforts and outcomes of an adult are not really the property of their parent.

2. Unless I'm being a "fuckhead" I'm not inclined to stand by and let anybody call me that. Most likely, my response would be to disengage and walk away. After all, it wasn't I who killed his son.

In nearly 30 years in my profession I have seen a lot of grieving parents who actually did lose a child, and I have absorbed a lot of anger from grieving parents. But I have not ceded absolute moral authority to grieving parents.

(DISCLAIMER: I am not referencing the specific interaction between Mr. Khan and Mr. Trump)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 31, 2016 12:17 PM (mvenn)

35
Sheehan was dropped by the left when she went uber left and began running for office against democrats.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 31, 2016 12:17 PM (iQIUe)

36 Why doesn't Mr. Khan ask Hillary the same question and speak to her in the same manner?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 31, 2016 12:18 PM (ej1L0)

37 Trump could have done a better job crafting his statement, however.
Posted by: Motorhead at July 31, 2016 12:16 PM (CSCqJ)

Sure. I would've attacked the DNC for exploiting an American soldier's death for cheap political theater.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 12:18 PM (0mRoj)

38 >>Why do American soliders who died in combat get brownie points bc they are muslim?

Because it proves Obama's classic post-Muslim attack lecture that muslims are more patriotic than us and were integral to the founding of this country. Racist!

Also being used to imply Trump wanting to limit muslim immigration/refugees is denying America brave and loyal soldiers.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 12:18 PM (NOIQH)

39 Well there *is* something new under the sun. I completely reject Dave in Texas's position (not for him, that's of course fine, but he's clearly offering it as suggestive of proper behavior, not just an aside about his own druthers).

Khan's "status" lends no power or dignity or acceptability to anything he does or says, any more than if I did or said them. He has no "moral authority", an utterly ridiculous concept that illustrates a *perfect* non-understanding of morality. Nobody has "moral authority" - MORALITY has moral authority.

That's, um, kinda the whole point?

Trump of course almost never has the proper, politically tasty response to such situations, but that's a separate topic.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 12:18 PM (QDnY+)

40 Maybe he could get an extra copy of the constitution for Hillary?

At least she is known for for her deep respect of the military and the sacrifices they've made...

Posted by: Max Power at July 31, 2016 12:18 PM (QCc6B)

41 I loved when Sheehan went on a hungar strike but would have starbucks with scoops of icecream in it 2x a day. LOL

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 31, 2016 12:18 PM (iQIUe)

42 Seems that's many (most?) of our generals are just your standard run of the mill lefty politicians these days anyway. Especially after the Obama purges. They should be treated accordingly.

Posted by: gm at July 31, 2016 12:19 PM (K0tm3)

43 I agree that in this instance, Trump should shrug and focus on the topic he wants instead of this man's comments, but there was one that people are shrieking about which I have no problem with at all. Him saying "his wife wasn't allowed to talk." Because Islam is like that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:19 PM (39g3+)

44 Don't worry Mr. Khan, we'll get that filmmaker! *hic* *siezes* *falls over*

Posted by: Hillary at July 31, 2016 12:19 PM (0mRoj)

45 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 31, 2016 12:17 PM (mvenn)

DiT was being hyperbolic, but the overall point is that responding to the emotional outburst of a grieving parent, no matter how self-serving and politically expedient it was, is an exercise in futility, and one that demeans the responder.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 12:19 PM (Zu3d9)

46 We're baaaack!

Tee hee

Posted by: Journolist at July 31, 2016 12:20 PM (TwnkX)

47 "Trump needs to pick his battles. That's the point....or at least one of them."

Understand that. Just knew nothing of this story at all. Man, I've been under a rock lately.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 31, 2016 12:21 PM (9ym/8)

48 ...and this morning on Fox News, Juan Williams was "outraged" that Trump would invite a foreign country (Russia) to be involved in the US political process. Hillary's e-mails again.

To the fainting couches, pronto!

Which begs a variety of other questions:
Obama's speech at the Brandenburg Gate in 2008
Undocumented contributions to Obama in 2008, because he took his credit card tracker off his website.
The Clinton fund
and of course
The Clinton e-mail server.

That Juan Williams, what a rocket scientist.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 31, 2016 12:21 PM (S6Pax)

49 Khan was just on CNN. I suspect we'll be seeing a lot of him.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 31, 2016 12:21 PM (IqV8l)

50 I may get in trouble for saying this, but personally, when I hear someone scream, "Did you serve in the military?" because they did or they have family that did and they want to rub someone's nose in that fact, they just kinda shit on their service.

Posted by: Dang at July 31, 2016 12:21 PM (k0G44)

51 1. We are in the Victim Era. Black (it is BLM not AALM!) thugs are victims, soldiers are victims, and gender changers are victims. What is your victim qualification?

2. Goodbye Cindy, Hello Khan.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 31, 2016 12:21 PM (NUqwG)

52 You know, after seeing Bruce's remark, i began to wonder if our esteemed cob had actually listened to the DNC speech and the entirety of the comments, or was just going off of the ABC sourced commentary...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 12:21 PM (C9pBZ)

53 #37-Insomniac
That's exactly the angle he should've taken but this small misstep isn't the end of the world.

Posted by: Motorhead at July 31, 2016 12:22 PM (CSCqJ)

54 >>That Juan Williams, what a rocket scientist.

And reliably Leftist tool.
Take comfort, his adult son is a total conservative.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 12:22 PM (NOIQH)

55 I don't know why Mr. Khan was holding up a copy of the Constitution.
Nothing in that document supports his argument about him or his son.
He may as well held up his copy of the TV Guide.

Posted by: NeoKong at July 31, 2016 12:23 PM (XSGUa)

56 While Khan's son was getting blown up the Democrats in Congress at the time like Dick Durbin and the MSM were cheering it on.

I appreciate Khan's son's sacrifice but Khan himself made no sacrifice other than making himself a useful idiot to very crowd that were overjoyed to see those flagged draped coffins arriving by the planeload to Dover.

Posted by: Han Yolo at July 31, 2016 12:23 PM (MNzex)

57 Trump is wrong in how he handled his response to the Kahns. To the detriment of the Kahns, they are now being made media darlings, opening them to scrutiny as they wander farther from the content of their initial speech.

I, too, allow them tremendous leeway in their anger and their grieving and I also know that the media will keep pushing them to say more and more, and that won't bode well for them.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 31, 2016 12:23 PM (SEXy3)

58 Hillary this morning called Pat Smith a liar. But Trump.

Posted by: Gman at July 31, 2016 12:23 PM (VXoTW)

59 53 #37-Insomniac
That's exactly the angle he should've taken but this small misstep isn't the end of the world.
Posted by: Motorhead at July 31, 2016 12:22 PM (CSCqJ)

It's not, but it's certainly an unforced error.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 12:24 PM (0mRoj)

60 >>I don't know why Mr. Khan was holding up a copy of the Constitution.
Nothing in that document supports his argument about him or his son.

His audience likely is not well-versed in the Constitution, so if worked on them.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 12:24 PM (NOIQH)

61 Khizr Khan Tells NBC Republican Leaders Have Reached Out to Him

....

Our job is almost done!

Posted by: Journolist at July 31, 2016 12:25 PM (TwnkX)

62 Emotional outburst?

Seemed more like a thought out ahead of time speech to achieve a goal to me.

Posted by: teej at July 31, 2016 12:25 PM (jUilJ)

63
Khan was just on CNN. I suspect we'll be seeing a lot of him. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 31, 2016 12:21 PM (IqV8l)
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Just like clock boy's parents and Orlando shooter's parents? Sacrifices to anti-Islam.

Don't know about anyone else, but I was disgusted by the red flowers worn by the Thugmoms. Is everyone wearing large buttonieres rather than ribbons now?

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 31, 2016 12:25 PM (MIKMs)

64 Problem with Dave's point is that he wasn't just yelling in Trump's (who, incidentally had nothing to do with the polices that led to his son's death) face. He was using apparent unimpeachable moral authority to attack Trump. The democrats know that it's politicqlly for Trump to attack him, which is why he was there and why the Democrats objected to the GOP using the parents of children slain by illegal aliens.

Posted by: gm at July 31, 2016 12:25 PM (K0tm3)

65 Outburst from a grieving parent?

Respectfully speaking, we must have heard two very different speeches.
And Muldoon is spot on.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 12:25 PM (C9pBZ)

66 9 I haven't watched the video.

Did dad vehemently attack the Moslem terrorists who did it as he did the misrepresentation of Trump's immigration policy?
Posted by: andycanuck at July 31, 2016 12:10 PM (LdMbv)

Khan has called in the past for American Moslems to "stand firm" against terrorists.

He has said, "Among us hides the enemies of the value system of this country. And we need to defend it. And if it means ratting out the traitors who hide behind American passports, that's what we need to do."

This is the man Trump is fighting.

Khan seems to be many times the American that Trump is.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:26 PM (mFkVC)

67 Did Kahn's son die before or after Harry Reid said "This war is lost?" Where was Mr Kahn then?

Also, just the fact that he showed up at the DNC shows me his motivation.

Posted by: freaked at July 31, 2016 12:26 PM (BO/km)

68 62 Emotional outburst?

Seemed more like a thought out ahead of time speech to achieve a goal to me.
Posted by: teej at July 31, 2016 12:25 PM (jUilJ)

Considering his son died 12 years ago, and he did this at the podium of the DNC, I agree with you. This was carefully calculated.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 12:26 PM (0mRoj)

69 I don't know why Mr. Khan was holding up a copy of the Constitution.
Nothing in that document supports his argument about him or his son.
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Better than holding up a copy of the Alien Acts (some portions are still in effect) for his message I suppose. Not a bad symbolic, if irrelevant, choice at all!

Posted by: RioBravo at July 31, 2016 12:27 PM (NUqwG)

70 Why is this guy on CNN and not the parents of children killed by illegal aliens? It's almost as if CNN has an agenda.

Posted by: gm at July 31, 2016 12:27 PM (K0tm3)

71 Don't agree, CBD. There's a variety of appropriate and productive options to respond to this sort of grossly illogical appeal to emotion and ignorance (Khan's statements).

Of course Teh Donald has none of the tools to do so (mostly because he's not a political guy his whole life).

But in this particular case, I can easily rattle off a devastating response that exposes and shames Khan's despicable behavior and puts the focus right back where it belongs - irresponsible and irrational immigration policy (and lawlessness) that gets innocent people killed every day and erodes our civic culture.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 12:27 PM (QDnY+)

72 >>Trump is wrong in how he handled his response to the Kahns. To the
detriment of the Kahns, they are now being made media darlings, opening
them to scrutiny as they wander farther from the content of their
initial speech.

Someone here posted recently that they had met the Khahns and they have been very busy in the speaking circuit already. Maybe closer to Sandra Fluke (budding activist hits bigtime) than Sean Smith's mom (a woman looking for answers).

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 12:27 PM (NOIQH)

73 Trump's mouth and general lack of perception and perspective will deliver our collective asses to the 'tender mercies' of Skankles et Cie ...

Posted by: Dr_No at July 31, 2016 12:27 PM (bICLx)

74 The only winning move is not to play.

Posted by: WOPR at July 31, 2016 12:28 PM (JO9+V)

75 Most of the people who are outraged, outraged at Trump's response are guys who thought the GQ author calling for Bengahzi mom Pat Smith to die was just fine. They called her all sorts of horrific stuff, but questioning this man is beyond the pale!!!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:28 PM (39g3+)

76 55 I don't know why Mr. Khan was holding up a copy of the Constitution.

Posted by: NeoKong at July 31, 2016 12:23 PM (XSGUa)

Perhaps because those are the principles his son died for, he believes in, and Trump is wholly ignorant of? Just a guess.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:28 PM (mFkVC)

77 Why do American soliders who died in combat get
brownie points bc they are muslim? Is it because no one expects them to
be loyal?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

It's a counter-counter narrative.

The Primary Media-DNC narrative is that Muslims have contributed a lot to American society. That's the Obama line.

The counter narrative by normal mortals is that they are not and will not assimilate into mainstream society. Living in Columbus with a large Somali population, I would say that is generally correct. I see them everywhere, and they stick out like a sore thumb. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure this out.

The counter-counter narrative is that this Khan guy was a real patriot, extracting the general from the specific, so to question a Muslim's patriotism is wrong, based on this one specific example.

It's a weak argument, and the counter argument is just that. You cannot make a general case for this from a handful of anecdotes or the actions of a few. But this is a somewhat subtle argument that does not work in the hot media rush of the campaign.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 31, 2016 12:29 PM (S6Pax)

78 >>>
Posted by: Gman at July 31, 2016 12:23 PM (VXoTW)>>>

Wwhy isn't Smith getting the red carpet treatment from CNN?

Posted by: gm at July 31, 2016 12:29 PM (K0tm3)

79 I am all out of fucks to give. Losing someone you loved overseas, while tragic, does not magically imbue your opinions with any inherent value. I'm not sure what any of Trumps statements on Muslim immigration have to do with Khan's death in Iraq in 2004. I don't see what sacrifices have to do with anything. The last nominees that you could speak of making sacrifices were Dole and McCain and I doubt any if these chumps applauding were lining up to vote for them.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 31, 2016 12:29 PM (+b2T3)

80 From here til November, I will sleep in a ditch every night in front of Trump's ranch while the media fawns over my every word and turn the waterworks on and off on command when the cameras start rolling.

He lives in a ranch in New York City, right?

Posted by: Achmed Sheehan at July 31, 2016 12:29 PM (MNzex)

81 75 Most of the people who are outraged, outraged at Trump's response are guys who thought the GQ author calling for Bengahzi mom Pat Smith to die was just fine. They called her all sorts of horrific stuff, but questioning this man is beyond the pale!!!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:28 PM (39g3+)
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What the press did to Pat Smith was abominable as well.

do you think that makes what Trump is doing to Khan any better?

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:30 PM (mFkVC)

82 Perhaps because those are the principles his son died for, he believes in, and Trump is wholly ignorant of? Just a guess.
Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:28 PM (mFkVC)

Your last sentence was the only thing you've said that approaches the truth.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 31, 2016 12:30 PM (dPrPG)

83 You don't need an expensive EKG machine to tell if our classically trained professional journalists with the highest ethical standards are alive or dead.

Just put someone who is, at best, vaguely or even possibly Republican and watch then react.

Posted by: Anchovy at July 31, 2016 12:30 PM (a42oI)

84 the overall point is that responding to the emotional outburst of a grieving parent, no matter how self-serving and politically expedient it was, is an exercise in futility, and one that demeans the responder.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

*****

Sure, I get that. But there is a line (and I have experienced that line) which, if a grieving parent crosses, they should be called on.

I have had a parent expressly imply that I was willing to murder their profoundly disabled child by not providing high-risk invasive medical procedures that would not improve the child's quality or quantity of life. Yes, using the actual word 'murder'. In that circumstance I firmly tell them that they will need to find a new cardiologist. Full stop. No walking it back.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 31, 2016 12:31 PM (mvenn)

85 Trump is not doing anything to Kahn other than pointing out that he is being used by the DNC.

Posted by: freaked at July 31, 2016 12:31 PM (BO/km)

86 do you think that makes what Trump is doing to Khan any better?

Well for one thing he's not saying he wants to beat Mr. Khan to death.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 12:31 PM (0mRoj)

87 Seemed more like a thought out ahead of time speech to achieve a goal to me.

Posted by: teej at July 31, 2016 12:25 PM (jUilJ)

Sure, but the perception is the same, so there is no difference.

It simply wasn't wise for Trump to respond. There are 1,000s of things he can attack Clinton and the Dems with; why jump into this?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 12:32 PM (Zu3d9)

88 Your last sentence was the only thing you've said that approaches the truth.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 31, 2016 12:30 PM (dPrPG)
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so you don't believe Khan's son died for the principles in the Constitution? What leads you to believe that?

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:32 PM (mFkVC)

89 Trump did not criticize Mr. Khan. He merely responded to his emotional and political attack.
It is absurd for Mr. Khan to hold Trump responsible for his son's death 12 years and two presidents ago.
Trump had nothing to do with it.

This Khan guy dragged his son's corpse into the political spotlight. At Hillary's behest. If he hadn't addressed Trump personally, I doubt Trump would have ever mentioned his name. I know the left, and the nevertrumps are trying to make some hay out of this...but the only thing it's accomplishing is keeping Hillary's campaign out of the news, to her detriment.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 31, 2016 12:32 PM (LGnIZ)

90 I'm not going to get played with this Dem emotional bullshit.
Over 10,000 Americans have been killed by Muslims and our families here are in danger because Hillary wants to let millions in here.

I give far more more of a fuck about that than this idiot soap opera.

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at July 31, 2016 12:32 PM (N7G17)

91 I don't care about any of this. Muslim immigration needs to be banned, period. Trump doesn't go nearly far enough, but he's better than anyone else on this subject.

Posted by: rickl at July 31, 2016 12:32 PM (sdi6R)

92 55 I don't know why Mr. Khan was holding up a copy of the Constitution. Nothing in that document supports his argument about him or his son.
He may as well held up his copy of the TV Guide.
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Yep. Trump should have taken advantage of the opportunity this offered him to explain why Muslim immigration needs to be limited. He could have pointed out that there are many ideals expressed in our constitution -- such as freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the separation of church and state, etc., that are opposed by Islam.

Trump could also have said that he was not disrespecting the sacrifice made by Mr. Khan's son, nor was he suggesting that Muslim-Americans are entitled to fewer rights under our laws than any other Americans. He has simply been pointing out that, as a matter of public policy, it is foolish to import millions of foreigners who adhere to an ideology that is antithetical to our own constitution.

We have no obligation to set up a clash of civilizations in our own land, and it is simply idiotic not to recognize that.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 31, 2016 12:33 PM (NnYnv)

93 Well for one thing he's not saying he wants to beat Mr. Khan to death.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 12:31 PM (0mRoj)
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Nah, he's just questioning his treatment of his wife, suggesting his words are insincere, and explicitly stating that Khan shouldn't have the right to say what he did. Nothing bad there at all.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:33 PM (mFkVC)

94 I'm stuck with Trump, but that's what you get with him, a mouth with no filter between that and his brain.

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2016 12:34 PM (bksJQ)

95 You have sacrificed nothing." Khan also questioned if Trump had ever read the Constitution and offered to lend him

What a sleazy dog and pony show that was.

First off, Khizr didn't sacrifice anything. His son did. Second, the fact that he's exploiting his son's death in order to guilt Americans into allowing more Muslims into this country, with the accompanying terrorism and creeping sharia, show that his love for this country and Constitution to be a sham.

Maybe he loves the idea of America transformed into one giant Dearborn.

And if he thinks that Trump has no right to speak on the issue because he didn't lose a son, but he Khizr, should be allowed to advocate stupid, dangerous policies (such as the PCism that allowed for Nidal Hassan), he is stupid as well.

I don't doubt that his son was a noble individual, and if indeed the soul lives on after death, he is no doubt deeply ashamed and disappointed in his dad right now.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 31, 2016 12:34 PM (rDxLs)

96 I'm just tired of bizzaro world. When McCain was defeated in 2008 because we didn't want someone who would think war for every little thing did anyone expect we'd take out a defanged Gaddafi and leave a vacuum in Libya for terrorists to flow into? Did anyone expect we'd encourage, probably help under the covers the removal of a secular president in Egypt? Syria? Blowing up the SOFA in Iraq and undoing whatever progress had been achieved maybe that one was predictable. And Killary who either was too inept to prevent this crap as SoS or is a reckless warmonger who encouraged it is held up as the saner CiC choice?

Yeah Trump speaks before he thinks but he would have a congress, joint chiefs of staff and media who would be at the ready to push back on dumb proposals. Joint chiefs would be fighting a congress mostly made up of idiots that doesn't want to be painted obstructionist patriarchs and a media that will spin that a dumb idea flowing from a democrat is 4th dimensional chess that mere rubes just can't understand.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 31, 2016 12:34 PM (Jen0I)

97 Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:33 PM (mFkVC)

The goalposts are highly mobile. I repeat, the goalposts are highly mobile.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 12:34 PM (0mRoj)

98 so you don't believe Khan's son died for the principles in the Constitution?
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Long Live the Senate! Three Cheers for letters of marque!

Posted by: RioBravo at July 31, 2016 12:34 PM (NUqwG)

99 Hillary let 4 American soldiers die and lied about it.

Trump hasn't...

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at July 31, 2016 12:35 PM (N7G17)

100 So it's the outrage of the day... Expect a new one soon... Yes Trump was an ass to say this, but I think it was more a response to the insults Mr.Khan threw at Him...I would probably apologize and move on...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 12:35 PM (O2RFr)

101 so you don't believe Khan's son died for the principles in the Constitution? What leads you to believe that?
Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:32 PM (mFkVC)

*****

You're going to have to clean up all that straw this time.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 31, 2016 12:35 PM (BlaJc)

102 Can we put off all this discussion until after November? I'm in the situation where I am more or less obligated to pretend this orange julius all these retards decided was a good candidate is actually a good candidate. And an honorable man. Bah.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 31, 2016 12:35 PM (gvSC+)

103 This Khan guy dragged his son's corpse into the political spotlight.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 31, 2016 12:32 PM (LGnIZ)

You feel the same way about Pat Smith at the RNC, right? And the family members of people killed by illegal immigrants?

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:36 PM (mFkVC)

104 Khan waving a Constitution is funny, given that if you quizzed him he'd probably state that sharia law supersedes it.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 31, 2016 12:36 PM (zjvRa)

105 BTW. 96 is mostly a first draft meant for LIVs, not how I think the Horde viewed things. I should have made that clear.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 31, 2016 12:36 PM (Jen0I)

106 I'm stuck with Trump, but that's what you get with him, a mouth with no filter between that and his brain.

***

And, knowing that, he is STILL better than Clinton.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 31, 2016 12:36 PM (SEXy3)

107 Pleasant thread......

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 31, 2016 12:36 PM (9ym/8)

108 Although, personally, I haven't bitched enough about the Never Trump Camp.

I hate those goddamn retard spokesmen for the Never Trump Camp.

Starting with Donald Fucking Trump.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 31, 2016 12:36 PM (gvSC+)

109 If my kid had died, the last thing I would do would be to make a fucking spectacle of myself.

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at July 31, 2016 12:36 PM (N7G17)

110 Can we put off all this discussion until after November? I'm in the situation where I am more or less obligated to pretend this orange julius all these retards decided was a good candidate is actually a good candidate. And an honorable man. Bah.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 31, 2016 12:35 PM (gvSC+)
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Enjoy your pain and suffering. I am!

Posted by: RioBravo at July 31, 2016 12:36 PM (NUqwG)

111 104 Khan waving a Constitution is funny, given that if you quizzed him he'd probably state that sharia law supersedes it.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 31, 2016 12:36 PM (zjvRa)

Fascism wrapped in a flag, carrying a cross, something something.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 12:37 PM (0mRoj)

112 Right now all the turks are demonstrating in Germany. Some yelling that Germany is theirs.
Muslims are also demonstrating in Luton for some unknown reason.

This constant show of strength and numbers by muslims is frightening.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 31, 2016 12:37 PM (iQIUe)

113 106 I'm stuck with Trump, but that's what you get with him, a mouth with no filter between that and his brain.

***

And, knowing that, he is STILL better than Clinton.

What You said...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 12:37 PM (O2RFr)

114 First off, Khizr didn't sacrifice anything. His son did.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 31, 2016 12:34 PM (rDxLs)

Just wanted folks to take a nice, juicy look at this statement.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:37 PM (mFkVC)

115 cindy Sheehan 2.0

Posted by: Utopia at July 31, 2016 12:37 PM (BCelo)

116 @106: Megan McArdle's column despairing that Hillary is the world's most robotic speechmaker is worth some good laughs. She voted for Obama, and she's now demanding they sucker her in again.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 31, 2016 12:37 PM (zjvRa)

117 Khan waving a Constitution is funny, given that if you quizzed him he'd probably state that sharia law supersedes it

***

Is there anything whatsoever to suspect that he or his family is anything but a fully assimilated American family?

This is bullshit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 31, 2016 12:37 PM (SEXy3)

118 Khan is an Immigration lawyer if I read correctly and has ties in some degree with Hillary..... Of course I can't remember where I read that...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 12:38 PM (O2RFr)

119 111 104 Khan waving a Constitution is funny, given that if you quizzed him he'd probably state that sharia law supersedes it.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 31, 2016 12:36 PM (zjvRa)
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Khan has spoken out in favor of the core principles of this nation and against radical Islam. I quoted him above.

I suspect he knows a lot more about the Constitution then Trump.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:39 PM (mFkVC)

120 So if a 22 year old who's been out of the house living on his own with little interaction with his parents VOLUNTEERS for military service without their knowledge or permission (which isn't needed of course but thought I'd add it) dies in combat the parents of that individual can do what exactly? If I think Clinton would make a horrible CinC can they scream in my face "FUCK YOU you've never served?" Well neither have they.

As an individualist living in, a mostly, voluntary society I don't believe moral authorities 'pass onto' relatives. Why I get so tired of politicians referring to what their dad or mom did or how hard their grandpa worked in the coal mines. So, what have you done.

That said Trump is an idiot for even responding.

Posted by: bobbymike at July 31, 2016 12:39 PM (E45gO)

121 Disagree with Dave in Texas. Khizr is using his son as a propaganda tool to pretend that all Muslims are good, patriotic Americans. We see daily, that this isn't the case.

It's important to not give Khizr a bully pulpit to express his false views unopposed. He's a liar who Clinton is using as a shield to candy coat her dangerous views. It must not happen.

Posted by: NJRob at July 31, 2016 12:39 PM (o1h4V)

122 >>You feel the same way about Pat Smith at the RNC, right? And the family members of people killed by illegal immigrants?

Pat Smith's son died because of Hillary's (and Obama's) actions. Further, Hillary has said that Smith and the other families are liars when disputing the content of her conversation with them --- while standing by their caskets. I have no problem with her challenging Hillary's qualifications for being president.

What did Trump have to do with Khan's son's death? Nothing.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 12:40 PM (NOIQH)

123 The more people hear about a Muslim angry at Trump, the more support trump gets

Posted by: Utopia at July 31, 2016 12:40 PM (BCelo)

124 It is interesting to read the articles about Khan and his son and the talks he gave to his son about an American Muslim fighting Muslims in their home countries.

And today he is on CNN lying in stating that Islam has nothing to do with terror attacks.

I'll get destroyed for asking this question but why did Khan Jr. Have soldiers liked up at the gate a year with a suspiciously parked Iraqi vehicle sitting close by for a long period of time after the IEDs began to kill American soldiers in mass a year before?

Yes, I do believe Muslims in our miliary should be vetted over and over again and held to a much higher level of skepticism and scrutiny.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 12:40 PM (a94gW)

125 It's important to not give Khizr a bully pulpit to express his false views unopposed. He's a liar who Clinton is using as a shield to candy coat her dangerous views. It must not happen.
Posted by: NJRob at

Too late Mr. Khan is on every channel ....

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 12:40 PM (O2RFr)

126
You feel the same way about Pat Smith at the RNC, right? And the family members of people killed by illegal immigrants?

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:36 PM (mFkVC)

Trump had nothing to do with that man's death. Nothing at all. Khan elected to drag his dead son into the political spotlight, in an attempt to score some hits on Trump. It didn't work, sorry.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 31, 2016 12:41 PM (LGnIZ)

127 Khan waving a Constitution is funny, given that if you quizzed him he'd probably state that sharia law supersedes it.

If he supports Democrats he probably doesn't know very much about its contents to begin with.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:41 PM (39g3+)

128 36 Why doesn't Mr. Khan ask Hillary the same question and speak to her in the same manner?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 31, 2016 12:18 PM (ej1L0)

Exactly my point. Everything Khan said about Trump could apply to Hillary! as well.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 31, 2016 12:41 PM (Dq9FL)

129 So, let me get this straight. Khizr Khan loses his son in the Iraq War so he decides to attack Trump and support Hillary. Yes, Trump gave lukewarm support for the war in 2002 ("Yeah, I guess so") but then was publicly against it a year before Khan's son died. This sounds a lot like Hillary's view on the war back then, too, though Hillary's initial support for the war was much more enthusiastic than Trump's, which was not surprising considering the implemented policies of her husband's administration again Saddam and Iraq.

Posted by: Slappy at July 31, 2016 12:41 PM (rtfSu)

130 Know what? The Muslim-in-Chief's treasonous policies have given Iraq and Afghanistan to the terrorists, and have rendered ALL of our servicemembers' sacrifices in vain.

So I say to Mr. Khan, "Join the club, pal."

Posted by: rickl at July 31, 2016 12:41 PM (sdi6R)

131 This was some incredibly shameless exploitation by the DNC, but it appears that Trump stupidly walked right into the trap.

If he felt the need to respond and try to turn the narrative around on them, he could have acknowledged the sacrifice that people like Khan have made, but then brought up that between the Fort Hood shooting and the grenade attack in the early days of Iraq, the number of people killed by Muslim soldiers of questionable loyalty is actually greater than the number of Muslim soldiers KIA.

Posted by: HansGruber at July 31, 2016 12:41 PM (EeYhu)

132 Pat Smith's son died because of Hillary's (and Obama's) actions. Further, Hillary has said that Smith and the other families are liars when disputing the content of her conversation with them --- while standing by their caskets. I have no problem with her challenging Hillary's qualifications for being president.

What did Trump have to do with Khan's son's death? Nothing.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 12:40 PM (NOIQH)

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Ok, so Smith and the families who lost folks to illegal immigrant killers are NOT using their deceased loved ones as "political props" but the Khan's are.

No hypocrisy there.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:42 PM (mFkVC)

133 Khan is not simply the parent of a fallen soldier; he's someone who CHOSE to inject himself into politics, using his dead son as a political weapon. So, no, he's not above criticism; he waived that defense, so to speak.

Posted by: Occasional Reader at July 31, 2016 12:42 PM (hgEWn)

134 Who is paying for Mr. Khan's world tour?

The hotels, the rides, the food, huh?

How does one get to ramble from one political event to the next without spending a fortune to do so?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 31, 2016 12:42 PM (ej1L0)

135 Who is paying for Mr. Khan's world tour?

I read He has Clinton "connections." I wish I could find that article...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 12:43 PM (O2RFr)

136 >>> so you don't believe Khan's son died for the principles in the Constitution? What leads you to believe that?
Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:32 PM (mFkVC)

No soldier, sailor, or airman dies for the Constitution. They die for the soldier, sailor, or airman on their right and left. Khan didn't die for the Constitution; he died for the men and women in his unit.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 31, 2016 12:44 PM (+b2T3)

137 If he supports Democrats he probably doesn't know very much about its contents to begin with.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:41 PM (39g3+)

In previous years, this was a case Republican voters could make.

Trump is as opposed to the Constitution as Hillary.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:44 PM (mFkVC)

138 I do not care what Trump said, I do not care what this man's son did.

He is waving the bloody red flag of his son to death and using the "absolute moral authority" card leftist get and conservatives don't to silence Trump and advance a lie.

Hillary Clinton will never be asked about, confronted by or made to
answer to the "absolute moral authority" of the family of Kate Steinle
because the MSM gets to decide what families can speak and which issues
will be brought to the fore.

Again I really don't give a shit what this mans son did, my give a fucks
have been exhausted and whatever sacrifices his son made pale in comparison to
dangers faced by limitless immigration of third world illiterate peasants and Muslims into western
countries.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 31, 2016 12:44 PM (7C/kB)

139 Conservative Treehouse

Khan worked for Jeh Johnson

Trump shouldn't compare his sacrifice to this father's regardless

That being said Trump probably gets several death threats a day

If we aren't supposed to attribute collect guilt to Muslims for the terrorism their coreligionists commit

Than neither can we award collective merit to the Muslim community for the honorable service and tremendous sacrifice of one of their coreligionists

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 12:44 PM (zOTsN)

140 No soldier, sailor, or airman dies for the Constitution. They die for the soldier, sailor, or airman on their right and left. Khan didn't die for the Constitution; he died for the men and women in his unit.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 31, 2016 12:44 PM (+b2T3)
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Why do you think he joined up?

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:45 PM (mFkVC)

141 This will blow over with the next major Muslim terror attack. The left relies on short memories and lulls between awful stuff that reminds people of what matters and what truly is important.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:45 PM (39g3+)

142 It's important to not give Khizr a bully pulpit to
express his false views unopposed. He's a liar who Clinton is using as a
shield to candy coat her dangerous views. It must not happen.

Posted by: NJRob at July 31, 2016 12:39 PM (o1h4V)

Good point, but Trump handed him one by responding in exactly the wrong way.

There are some excellent responses written by the Horde in this thread. And they aren't running for president, so the stakes aren't quite as high.....

I despise Trump, but will vote for him to prevent a Clinton presidency. I just wish he didn't make so many unforced errors!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 12:45 PM (Zu3d9)

143 And according to the Uniparty ROE, I may ask questions and and be critical because my father was a highly decorated Vet buried in Alington National Cemetary who was in perfect health until about 20 years after Nam and his nuelogical system went to Shit without any explanation and slowly died from at least a dozen types of neuropathy and other bizzare nuerolgical illnesses.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 12:45 PM (a94gW)

144 The statement by Dave is Texas is almost word for word what Dave in Letterman said about Cindy Sheehan when Bill O'Reilly was on his show.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 31, 2016 12:45 PM (IqV8l)

145 I don't respect anyone at the Democratic National Convention. At all.

That dead kid? I respect him. The father? Don't give a barrel of pig shit for him, he's a Democrat.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at July 31, 2016 12:46 PM (c1VpD)

146 Muzzie a-hole wants to stand on his sons grave and hide behind the constitution AND appear at the DNC? You can not be a Constitutionalist AND be a democrat. Impossible. Fuck him. And yeah, why didn't his wife say a peep? Oh yeah. Sharia is the highest law.

What about all the rest of Americans -- and yes his own son --- who died because Islam is a shit, violent cult? Is he ready to apologize for that?

BTW-- have we've learned nothing from Ace's Chesterton's Field piece last week? Stop having the vapors.

Posted by: LAST WEEK'S NEWS TODAY at July 31, 2016 12:46 PM (svFmG)

147 What branch of service did Hillary serve in? The speech was about open borders, nothing more. If Trump dropped his opposition to illegal/excessive immigration he could be the Dem nominee. Instead, both sides hate him.

Posted by: Big Ben at July 31, 2016 12:46 PM (TTVQ4)

148 "Did dad vehemently attack the Moslem terrorists who did it as he did the misrepresentation of Trump's immigration policy?"

What do you think?

Khan couldn't attack the people who actually killed his son, because that would have gotten him booed by the DNC delegates.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 12:46 PM (fVubI)

149 In a year or so, a lot of "conservatives" are going to be pretending they didn't take the positions they are right now. They will pretend they didn't defend the things they are defending right now.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:46 PM (mFkVC)

150 Khan job.

Posted by: Dang at July 31, 2016 12:47 PM (k0G44)

151 This Khan guy dragged his son's corpse into the political spotlight. At Hillary's behest. If he hadn't addressed Trump personally, I doubt Trump would have ever mentioned his name.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 31, 2016 12:32 PM (LGnIZ)

Right. Notice how our crack MSM journalists never call this for what it is: an obviously manufactured, tear-jerking stunt as part of a political campaign.

I have little sympathy for Mr.Khan. I would have had a lot more sympathy for him had he not offered himself up as willing tool of the Hillary! campaign and so deserves any and all of the political blowback he's getting.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 31, 2016 12:47 PM (Dq9FL)

152 The most important thing is that Hillary must NOT become president.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 31, 2016 12:47 PM (AroJD)

153 if i lost one of my family in combat, the last thing i would do is piss on their grave to advance any political agenda. guy is a fuckin phoney. period. war is ugly.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 31, 2016 12:47 PM (KP5rU)

154 I just wish I could get paid to post on here like person obviously does by the Hillary camp.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:47 PM (39g3+)

155 Khan man.

Posted by: Dang at July 31, 2016 12:47 PM (k0G44)

156 Well, apparently that "free-diver" made his jump and landed square on the net without a chute.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 31, 2016 12:48 PM (9ym/8)

157 Khan seems to be many times the American that Trump is.

Your agonizing concern:

[x] is so noted.
[ ] not so noted.

Posted by: An Observation at July 31, 2016 12:48 PM (Cs/V0)

158 149 In a year or so, a lot of "conservatives" are going to be pretending they didn't take the positions they are right now. They will pretend they didn't defend the things they are defending right now.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:46 PM (mFkVC)

Such as...?

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 31, 2016 12:48 PM (Dq9FL)

159 148 "Did dad vehemently attack the Moslem terrorists who did it as he did the misrepresentation of Trump's immigration policy?"

What do you think?

Khan couldn't attack the people who actually killed his son, because that would have gotten him booed by the DNC delegates.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 12:46 PM (fVubI)

He did. See my comments above.

But don't let knowledge get in the way of your hypocrisy and emotionally validating anger.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:48 PM (mFkVC)

160 Pretending that this guy just appeared out of thin air is rather funny.
He's been speechmaking and linked with parts of the current administration.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 12:48 PM (C9pBZ)

161 I am sorry for Mr. Kahn's loss, but while his son was alive, Democrats like Ted Kennedy were telling us he and other soldiers were replacing Saddam's torture chambers with torture chambers of their own. John Kerry told students that if they didn't study hard enough, they'd end up just like Mr. Kahn (in Iraq). And who was the Congressman from PA who compared Mr. Kahn and the troops in Iraq to Nazis?

Mr. Kahn, I'm sorry to say, you're expendable to Hillary, whether she wins or loses. Talk to Cindy Sheehan about that.

Democrats don't like this country, and that includes the military. It must have made them break out in hives to see all those flags and patriotic talk the last two days of their convention. Don't judge who they are by those last two nights. Judge how they were those first two night, when there were no flags present (save the Palestinian flag) and the moms of cop killers.

Posted by: Mike at July 31, 2016 12:48 PM (c056A)

162 A Friend of mines only Child was killed early on in the Iraq War... Never did I see Her try to use His death for political purposes... She has however dedicated Her time to help other Families and those who have returned wounded... Ever time something like this happens it' like a knife to her heart as She still remains a Patriot and a Conservative....

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 12:49 PM (O2RFr)

163 I would have had a lot more sympathy for him had he not offered himself up as willing tool of the Hillary! campaign

Right. My heart breaks for anyone who loses a child. It doesn't matter how or why, it hurts and its awful. but what you do with that hurt and where you go with it is on you. You do not get a ticket to do anything you want because you are in pain.

Supporting the very policies and people who hate your son for being a soldier and the military at large is simply not acceptable no matter what you've gone through.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:49 PM (39g3+)

164 160 Pretending that this guy just appeared out of thin air is rather funny.
He's been speechmaking and linked with parts of the current administration

Exactly...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 12:49 PM (O2RFr)

165 This man was only there to advocate for open borders and confer unearned honor on his coreligionists.

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 12:50 PM (zOTsN)

166 In 2004 , Trump was in Las Vegas, building casinos and banging cocktail waitresses two at a time so the players at the table couldn't get any drinks. He has never been a government employee.

In 2004, Hillary was a Senator in charge of trying to de-fund the military, bad mouthing her country and hoping Bill wasn't out raping anyone.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 31, 2016 12:50 PM (ej1L0)

167 If someone screamed "you fuckhead" to my face, I wouldn't stand there and take it.

Mr. Khan's son was a grown man who made his own choices. Giving Mr. Khan absolute moral authority for his son's sacrifice is stupid.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 31, 2016 12:50 PM (fC9RO)

168 Posted by: Inspector Cussword
'That dead kid? I respect him. The father? Don't give a barrel of pig shit for him, he's a Democrat.'

I was trying to think of a way to put my thoughts into words but you just did it.

Posted by: freaked at July 31, 2016 12:51 PM (BO/km)

169 >>>Why do you think he joined up?
Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:45 PM (mFkVC)

Don't know. Do you?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 31, 2016 12:51 PM (+b2T3)

170 >>Ok, so Smith and the families who lost folks to illegal immigrant
killers are NOT using their deceased loved ones as "political props" but
the Khan's are.

?
Any grieving parent who speaks at a political convention, GOP or Dem, is getting politically involved and inviting criticism. Pat Smith can speak to Hillary's incompetence based on her experience - what does Khan's experience have to do with Trump? I'm sorry for his loss, but why is he waving a Constitution as if Trump killed/would have killed his son?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 12:51 PM (NOIQH)

171 Khan has called in the past for American Moslems to "stand firm" against terrorists.
He has said, "Among us hides the enemies of the value system of this country. And we need to defend it. And if it means ratting out the traitors who hide behind American passports, that's what we need to do."
Khan seems to be many times the American that Trump is.

Posted by: person

Have links for all of these quotes, do you?

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 31, 2016 12:52 PM (Dq9FL)

172 emotional outburst of a grieving parent

A planned speech isn't an "emotional outburst".

Try harder next time.

Posted by: moral authority at July 31, 2016 12:52 PM (vPc9h)

173 So why is the farher yelling at Trump in the first place. Trump had nothing to do with the war that killed the man's son.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 31, 2016 12:52 PM (HnTr/)

174 Surprise, surprise, I see Hillary got that "bump" I knew She would... Funny how right after the Rep. Convention Trump went way up..... Not like We didn't know that that was artificially done so that Hillary could look like She's way ahead...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 12:52 PM (O2RFr)

175 There was a muslim that helped us over in Afganistan. He was brought to US, became a citizen, and has now left and joined ISIS.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 31, 2016 12:52 PM (iQIUe)

176 That Khan is for all intents and purposes a Democrat operative is just chaff. That's buried five paragraphs deep in any article about him and his son.

The LIVs saw a grieving father. Sure, it was staged and massaged and carefully scripted, probably as a trap to lure Trump to do EXACTLY what he did.

I want Trump to win (well, actually I just want Clinton to lose), but these optics are not helping.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 12:53 PM (Zu3d9)

177 "Khan was just on CNN. I suspect we'll be seeing a lot of him."

He's going to be Clinton's Secretary of Shariah if she wins, her shadow Secretary of Veterans' Affairs if she loses.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 12:53 PM (fVubI)

178 Whether attacking a general or grieving military parents, it's all just a faux-outrage fest.

No one cares, and nothing he says or she says will matter until two weeks before the election.

As to the grieving parents, let them be the face of warm and fuzzy patriotic America. Put them on every campaign commercial and poster. And that young Clock-Boy Edison too. Great strategy.

Posted by: Yawwwwwwn at July 31, 2016 12:53 PM (J66QD)

179 Late to thread due to house cleaning (which is still going on). I am sure that General's failure to do anything can be laid at the feet of one man/it. Our muzzie president.

He fired all the Generals and Admirals that would not toe his line and those left are political generals.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 31, 2016 12:54 PM (mpXpK)

180 No one is or should immune to criticism, especially General Allen and the parent of a fallen soldier. The left manipulates such people because they would like their status to inoculate them from critic. We are surrendering the debate because the other side can parade a more viable victim. In Allen's case, he's a failed GO and a sellout.

Posted by: Tim O'Neil at July 31, 2016 12:55 PM (GcQVh)

181 Try harder next time.

Posted by: moral authority at July 31, 2016 12:52 PM (vPc9h)

A scripted emotional outburst still looks like an emotional outburst to the LIVs.

Try thinking next time.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 12:55 PM (Zu3d9)

182 154: Meh, he's a GOPe concern troll, more of a #nevertrumper than Hillerista. I recognize his nic from Hotair. His schtick hasn't evolved much. Knows how to ride the line.

Posted by: Jackal at July 31, 2016 12:55 PM (XJo+V)

183 If we aren't supposed to attribute collective guilt to Muslims for the terrorism their coreligionists commit

Than neither can we award collective merit to the Muslim community for the honorable service and tremendous sacrifice of one of their coreligionists
__________________

Exactly. Thousands of innocent Americans have been murdered in the U.S. in the past two decades because our government allowed Muslims to come here. 9/11, Boston Marathon, Ft. Hood, San Bernardino, Chattanooga, Orlando, etc.

Americans have every right to debate the wisdom of allowing unlimited Muslim immigration. The deaths of a few U.S. Muslims in combat doesn't change that.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 31, 2016 12:55 PM (NnYnv)

184 No one cares, and nothing he says or she says will matter until two weeks before the election.

Yeah there's no cultural movement here. Mrs Trump's plagiarism became a meme, but this nobody is even really caring about. Its just one more faux outrage the left is ginning up and going nowhere. Even that steady trickle of outrage thing doesn't really seem to work well any more. People yawn and forget.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:55 PM (39g3+)

185 Islam is a militaristic totalitarian political doctrine that is the antithesis of the Constitution.

And Mr. Khan knows it and is on the side of Islam.

End.Of.Story.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 12:56 PM (a94gW)

186 I think the Dems may have miscalculated on this. They think the same type of scold from high up on the PC grievance totem pole that afflicts them with white guilt will afflict the majority of Americans that way. At this stage of the game, I doubt that is true.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 31, 2016 12:56 PM (rDxLs)

187 He fired all the Generals and Admirals that would not toe his line and those left are political generals.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 31, 2016 12:54 PM (mpXpK)

Yup.

It's amazing that the political generals seem to suck at conducting military campaigns.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 12:56 PM (Zu3d9)

188 Aside from lecturing Trump (wrongly) about what the U.S. Constitution says, Mr. Khan was on television this morning stating that Islam and terrorism are not related.

He's a liar, and should be subject to criticism. I am so fucking sick of so-called "conservatives" acting like a bunch of hyper-sensitive social justice warriors.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 31, 2016 12:56 PM (H6376)

189 Hmm. The Google says he's mentioned with CAIR...
This too shall pass

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 12:57 PM (C9pBZ)

190 >>Khan seems to be many times the American that Trump is.

And really, isn't this the story Obama tells us after every terrorist attack?
Sorry, not buying that narrative about the muslim-American community anymore.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 12:57 PM (NOIQH)

191 182 154: Meh, he's a GOPe concern troll, more of a #nevertrumper than Hillerista. I recognize his nic from Hotair. His schtick hasn't evolved much. Knows how to ride the line.
Posted by: Jackal at July 31, 2016 12:55 PM (XJo+V)
------------

I appreciate the half-hearted defense, but I never posted on Hotair.

Oh, and I dislike the GOPe. I have disliked them for years, and I dislike them just as much now that they have embraced Trump.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:57 PM (mFkVC)

192 "Khan seems to be many times the American that Trump is."

Has he actually done anything, or just mouthed the platitudes while supporting a candidate whose closest adviser comes from the Muslim Brotherhood?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 12:57 PM (fVubI)

193 he's a GOPe concern troll, more of a #nevertrumper than Hillerista.

He'll vote Hillary when the time comes, like a lot of them. You can tell by how they go "yeah Hillary is kinda bad but TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!!!"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 12:57 PM (39g3+)

194 I'll say it for the third time in the last few days, this muslim couple has been everywhere lately shilling for the democrats. I'm sorry they lost their son. They chose to politicize that event. They sought out a response. Where is the media when a parent of a fallen soldier bitches out Obama for the loss of their son? Where is the media when a parent of a fallen soldier bitches about being lied to or dismissed by democrat politicians IN office who had a hand in policies/laws/conflicts that directly put their children in an arena to be killed?

And on a side note, fuck you and the constitution that applies to you. You're all for the constitution at the same time you treat your wife as a second class citizen in your own home and in your relationship. So maybe apply the principles in the constitution to your own life before asking if others have even read it.

Posted by: nckate at July 31, 2016 12:57 PM (9Pufo)

195 Things in the Constitution:

[x] Right to bear arms
[ ] Open borders

Posted by: LAST WEEK'S NEWS TODAY at July 31, 2016 12:59 PM (svFmG)

196 "Perhaps because those are the principles his son died for, he believes in, and Trump is wholly ignorant of? Just a guess."

Then why is he supporting Hillary? She despises a great deal of the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 12:59 PM (fVubI)

197 He fired all the Generals and Admirals that would not toe his line and those left are political generals.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 31, 2016 12:54 PM (mpXpK)

+1 internets for the correct use of "toe the line."

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 31, 2016 12:59 PM (JO9+V)

198 He's a liar, and should be subject to criticism. I
am so fucking sick of so-called "conservatives" acting like a bunch of
hyper-sensitive social justice warriors.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 31, 2016 12:56 PM (H6376)

But within the bounds of propriety and designed to hurt the Dems and Clinton.

Trump could have said many things. But he chose the wrong way to criticize.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 12:59 PM (Zu3d9)

199 At this stage of the game, I doubt that is true.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 31, 2016 12:56 PM (rDxLs)

I am all out of fucks to give .

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 31, 2016 01:00 PM (QPdNE)

200 Posted by: Yuimetal at July 31, 2016 12:56 PM (rDxLs)

I live in an area with a lot of Trump supporters.

The idea of "white guilt" is as foreign to them as futbol.

They may in the end find a reason to not vote for him but this ain't it. Not even close.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 31, 2016 01:00 PM (dPrPG)

201 Like I said Trump should just apologize and move on....

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:00 PM (O2RFr)

202 the big picture? just an orchestrated campaign of personal destruction of trump. every day there will be the worst attacks on his character, psychology, morality & soul. it will be incessant, daily, targeted and most likely successful.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 31, 2016 01:00 PM (WTSFk)

203 Btw,
It's fun watching this and then get the one line news of the event in France...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 01:01 PM (C9pBZ)

204 Never mind. I figured it out.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 31, 2016 01:01 PM (HnTr/)

205 203 Btw,
It's fun watching this and then get the one line news of the event in France...

Because "who cares? " We have a Muslim backlash victim here!!!

The MSM

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:01 PM (O2RFr)

206 Then why is he supporting Hillary? She despises a great deal of the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 12:59 PM (fVubI)
---------------

Trump is just ignorant of and unconcerned with it. The result will be the same.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 01:01 PM (mFkVC)

207
Where can one get the invisible moral armor that allows one to appear on the stage of a political convention, and yet be immune from criticizing that appearance as a political act?

In a 46 Long. Maybe in blue.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 31, 2016 01:02 PM (kdS6q)

208 "do you think that makes what Trump is doing to Khan any better?"

What's he doing? Has he made more statements, or are you spinning a single answer to a direct question into something bigger because you're a #NeverTrump clown?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:02 PM (fVubI)

209 I'll care about this father a lot more when the Benghazi parents start being treated with the same respect by the dens and msm. Until then, he's just another tactically convenient victim for them to trot out until his usefulness passes. Why this site is carrying their water for them in this regard is just another example of how well the uniparty has taught us when and why to wring our hands, imo.

This father could have made a powerful argument for including good Muslims in our society and illustrate their contributions. Instead he went full Sheehan and became a tool by acting like a tool. I don't fault Trump for calling out that behavior, though I agree it could have been done better and should have been delegated to a lieutenant, Coulter, e.g.

Posted by: Major major major major at July 31, 2016 01:02 PM (RsSaL)

210 191
182 154: Meh, he's a GOPe concern troll, more of a #nevertrumper than
Hillerista. I recognize his nic from Hotair. His schtick hasn't evolved
much. Knows how to ride the line.

Posted by: Jackal at July 31, 2016 12:55 PM (XJo+V)

------------

I appreciate the half-hearted defense, but I never posted on Hotair.

Oh, and I dislike the GOPe. I have disliked them for years, and I dislike them just as much now that they have embraced Trump.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:57 PM (mFkVC)

Do you hate the Romans?
Yes
How much?
A lot!
Right, you're in.

Posted by: People's Front of Judea at July 31, 2016 01:02 PM (JO9+V)

211 A scripted emotional outburst still looks like an emotional outburst to the LIVs.

Yes, yes, only you were able to penetrate the facade.

Posted by: moral authority at July 31, 2016 01:02 PM (vPc9h)

212 Trump should just apologize and move on

I think he should move on, but never apologize. I'm sick to death of people apologizing to the left no matter how right they were. Never again, never, no matter what. Never apologize to the enemy. War, right?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 01:02 PM (39g3+)

213 THE BITCH VOTED FOR THE WAR THAT KILLED HIS SON!

And he's shilling for her?

Again. Children --- in utero or out --- are merely expendable props for Democrats.

Evil.

Posted by: LAST WEEK'S NEWS TODAY at July 31, 2016 01:02 PM (svFmG)

214 sharia is incompatible with the US constitution and western civ.

moslems need to go back to the shit holes they came from

Posted by: Jake at July 31, 2016 01:02 PM (wcGos)

215 Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 01:01 PM (C9pBZ)

????

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:03 PM (Zu3d9)

216 ... you do that daily with a complicit media and the default circumstance is trump is bad and worthy of attack. is he defensible in that attack? surely? but what about that other attack? not so much, that's valid. and tomorrow the attack on the other things...etc. etc.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 31, 2016 01:03 PM (WTSFk)

217 "so you don't believe Khan's son died for the principles in the Constitution? What leads you to believe that?"

His father is supporting Hillary for president. Apple, tree, short distance.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:03 PM (fVubI)

218 Posted by: People's Front of Judea at July 31, 2016 01:02 PM (JO9+V)

Splitters!

Posted by: Judean People's Front at July 31, 2016 01:03 PM (0mRoj)

219 Just because your son died in military service, why does that give you greater moral authority to speak on political matters, beyond "my son should not die in vain" or "he did die in vain."

Khan is a stage prop.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 31, 2016 01:03 PM (bQxkN)

220 Khan seems to be many times the American that Trump is.
Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:26 PM (mFkVC)

Anyone who would deny the connection between Islam and terrorism that has killed thousands of Americans isn't any kind of American at all.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 31, 2016 01:03 PM (H6376)

221 This election should be called The Race to Backpfeifengesicht, 2016.

Whenever I turn on the TV, it doesn't matter which candidate is on, I wanna smack 'em.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 31, 2016 01:03 PM (HnTr/)

222 Like I said Trump should just apologize and move on....
Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:00 PM (O2RFr)

******

No way. Once he starts doing that they will try to hound him into apologizing for everything. He said what he thought. Case closed, right or wrong.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 31, 2016 01:04 PM (BlaJc)

223 Whenever I turn on the TV, it doesn't matter which candidate is on, I wanna smack 'em

Me too...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:04 PM (O2RFr)

224 If mr khan said those things I applaud him. Wonderful

But he wasn't at the convention for that. He was at the convention to advocate for Muslim immigration under the false premise that these new citizens would be like his son

That is demonstrably false. There are more Muslims in the US military who have fragged thier fellow soldiers than have won the MOH

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:04 PM (zOTsN)

225 "Nah, he's just questioning his treatment of his wife, suggesting his words are insincere, and explicitly stating that Khan shouldn't have the right to say what he did. Nothing bad there at all."

And yet you equate it to calling for him to be beat to death.

(And did Trump "explicitly state" that Khan shouldn't have the right to say what he did? Or are you making shit up again because you're a NeverTrump clown?)

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:04 PM (fVubI)

226 The shit smeared on the walls really dresses this place up.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 31, 2016 01:05 PM (vP09u)

227 Faux narrative bought. Check. Clinton agenda advanced. Check. Our job is done here.

Posted by: The MFM at July 31, 2016 01:05 PM (Tyii7)

228 "The goalposts are highly mobile. I repeat, the goalposts are highly mobile."

This "person" wears goalposts on his shoulders. Every time he gets push back, those goalposts move naturally.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:05 PM (fVubI)

229 The shit smeared on the walls really dresses this place up.

Most of it has been here for months...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:06 PM (O2RFr)

230

I see two Americas.

Posted by: Jean Lick Packard at July 31, 2016 01:06 PM (ln7w3)

231 Still trying to hear exactly what trump said that requires some sort of apology.

So far, everything seems to circle back to the one abc "report", and he seems to be doing the right thing - let enemies over reach...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 01:06 PM (C9pBZ)

232 Megan McArdle's column despairing that Hillary is the world's most robotic speechmaker is worth some good laughs

Yeah Megan McArdle infuriates me, because she clearly knows better, but always goes back to the Democrat trough. She knows but is such a fool she falls for them every time anyway. That's the worst kind of fool.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 01:07 PM (39g3+)

233 "He was at the convention to advocate for Muslim immigration under the false premise that these new citizens would be like his son That is demonstrably false."

Spot on.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 31, 2016 01:07 PM (bQxkN)

234 "This constant show of strength and numbers by muslims is frightening."

That's the point. It's why the Democrats are running over each other to enforce shariah.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:07 PM (fVubI)

235 How long until Mr. Khan figures in a WH presser with a slew of Muslim's Defending America?

He can bedeck each with a replica of Clock Boy's innovative design of a disassembled Walmart alarm clock duck taped to a briefcase.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 31, 2016 01:07 PM (3Rr8K)

236 I'll bet Khan's only about 9 or 10 million new Muslims getting let into this country away from continuing to care about The Constitution.

Gonna be real funny if his name gets dropped in the next WikiLeaks dump.

Posted by: Han Yolo at July 31, 2016 01:07 PM (MNzex)

237 Posted by: The MFM at July 31, 2016 01:05 PM (Tyii7)

The narrative is a reflexive American one (respect for and deference to the parents of the fallen). Trump should have thought before he spoke, and he could have defused whatever bomb had been planted for him by the Dems. But he chose his usual bombastic style, and it didn't work very well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:08 PM (Zu3d9)

238 And yet you equate it to calling for him to be beat to death.

(And did Trump "explicitly state" that Khan shouldn't have the right to say what he did? Or are you making shit up again because you're a NeverTrump clown?)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:04 PM (fVubI)

It's in the written statement his campaign released. Educate yourself.

Oh, and when did Clinton advocate beating Pat Smith to death? Because as long as we're splitting hairs to try and defend the indefensible, you'll notice the anti-Khan stuff is coming from the candidate himself.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 01:08 PM (mFkVC)

239 Oh, and it's a suspected terrorist event on a ferry...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 01:08 PM (C9pBZ)

240 149 In a year or so, a lot of "conservatives" are going to be pretending they didn't take the positions they are right now. They will pretend they didn't defend the things they are defending right now.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 12:46 PM (mFkVC)

Your desire to lecture others here and to try to claim moral authority is as aggravating as when I see and hear Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Elizabeth Warren do it. I think most people here think Trump's response could have been better but that the accusation against him by Mr. Khan was wholly inappropriate and unfair. I look at Mr. Khan the same negative way I looked at Cindy Sheehan and others that try to use the deaths of their loved ones for political purposes. Then again, at least Sheehan criticized Bush who actually deployed her son to Iraq.

Posted by: Slappy at July 31, 2016 01:08 PM (rtfSu)

241 Trump tweeting this morning:

Captain Khan, killed 12 years ago, was a hero, but this is about RADICAL
ISLAMIC TERROR and the weakness of our "leaders" to eradicate it!

Bingo

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 01:08 PM (NOIQH)

242 I think if anyone was actually watching Mr. Khan, He didn't exactly come off as "likable " Then You have His obedient Wife standing silently there wearing a headscarf... I think most Americans seeing them anywhere else would be wary of them,...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:08 PM (O2RFr)

243
And a transcript of the Khizr Khan DNC speech, for actual quoting:

http://tinyurl.com/j45razx

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 31, 2016 01:09 PM (kdS6q)

244 222 Like I said Trump should just apologize and move on....
Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:00 PM (O2RFr)

He's got nothing to apologize for, so no, he should not. People have got to stop capitulating to the expectations of politically correct assclowns.

People are offended because he suggested that his wife might not have been allowed to speak? So what? Are women not subjugated in Islamic culture, despite the fact that the so-called "progressives" seem completely unconcerned about it?

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 31, 2016 01:09 PM (H6376)

245 there's no validity to this attack on trump whatsoever. the purpose is to say he's a racist unconstitutionally acting against one religion, islam. nonsense. trump is not proposing anything in the slightest unconstitutional.

this attack is particularly spicy because it implies he's against military sacrifice or something unpatriotic like that. also complete nonsense.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 31, 2016 01:09 PM (WTSFk)

246
And yet you equate it to calling for him to be beat to death.

No, not at all. That was in response to my noting the response to Pat Smith - the GQ writer that called for her to be beaten to death. Trump's response to this guy is positively genial and uplifting by comparison.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 01:09 PM (39g3+)

247 See the addendum....Trump's tweet today is exactly what he should have said days ago.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:10 PM (Zu3d9)

248 244 222 Like I said Trump should just apologize and move on....
Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:00 PM (O2RFr)

He's got nothing to apologize for, so no, he should not. People have got to stop capitulating to the expectations of politically correct assclowns.

I guess what I really meant is to do what He just did... More or less explain Himself ....

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:10 PM (O2RFr)

249 241 Trump tweeting this morning:

Captain Khan, killed 12 years ago, was a hero, but this is about RADICAL
ISLAMIC TERROR and the weakness of our "leaders" to eradicate it!

Bingo
Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 01:08 PM (NOIQH)

See, that's not a bad response. (Although the "killed 12 years ago" is a sleazy dig to try and diminish the parent's grief.)

It doesn't excuse his initial behavior.

Let's see if he sticks to it.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 01:11 PM (mFkVC)

250 For every Capt Khan there are 100,000 Samir Khan

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:11 PM (zOTsN)

251 @191 person-You need to go back and read Seamus Muldoon comments and Yuimetal's comment (95). Go back and read Yuimetal's comment and meditate on it a while. At this time I am firmly in the #NeverTrump camp (though not the GOPe side of it), however, this really isn't the subject to whack Trump over the head with it's pretty flimsy. If the hypocrisy belongs to anyone it belongs to Khan.

Posted by: JROD at July 31, 2016 01:11 PM (wnwJC)

252 The Khan guy forfeited whatever moral authoritah he presumes by his involvement with partisan politics. He feels much more than grief.

Posted by: bour3 at July 31, 2016 01:11 PM (Zcelc)

253 Bingo
Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 01:08 PM (NOIQH)

See, that's not a bad response. (Although the "killed 12 years ago" is a sleazy dig to try and diminish the parent's grief.)

It doesn't excuse his initial behavior.

Let's see if he sticks to it.

I disagree mentioning the 12 years was a good idea.....

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:12 PM (O2RFr)

254 "Apologize" for what, exactly? Responding - quite reasonably, on the face of it - that a scripted (and absurd, incoherent) to a political attack on him from a representative of his opponent's campaign was probably, you know, scripted?

A political attack that was absurd and incoherent, even by current Dem standards.

A guy whose son's sacrifices in a war has been squandered by the vermin he now promotes waves a constitution at somebody who had no govt. office during any of the period in question in order to make "points" that have no constitutional aspect whatsoever?

OK.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 01:12 PM (QDnY+)

255 "Is there anything whatsoever to suspect that he or his family is anything but a fully assimilated American family? "

They're Muslim. If they don't believe "divinely ordained" sharia overrides man-made American law, then they're not Muslims. Yet they proclaim they are Muslim.

(And before you sputter about Catholics, they're Christians, and Christ ordered "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and that which is God's unto God". Christians have no objection to there being secular authorities.)

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:12 PM (fVubI)

256 Then again, at least Sheehan criticized Bush who actually deployed her son to Iraq.

Exactly. She may have been unstable to begin with and she may have gone nuts when her son died, but she was a grieving mother who blamed the commander in chief. I have a lot more sympathy for that than this guy's standing to support Hillary Clinton and attacking Donald Trump who had zero to do with his son's demise.

Want to know why your son died? Open up that book you memorized but never studied or understood.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 01:12 PM (39g3+)

257 "Khan has spoken out in favor of the core principles of this nation and against radical Islam. I quoted him above. "

While supporting putting the Muslim Brotherhood in the Oval Office.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:13 PM (fVubI)

258 I guess what I really meant is to do what He just did... More or less explain Himself ....
Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:10 PM (O2RFr)

I agree with that.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 31, 2016 01:13 PM (H6376)

259 Every time I get hopeful I am reminded that Donald Trump is Donald Trump.

Posted by: Grump928(C) denounces himself so you don't have to at July 31, 2016 01:13 PM (rwI+c)

260 I disagree mentioning the 12 years was a good idea

I don't know if its a good idea or not, but its leverage to push attention to the fact that this happened long before Trump ran for president, back when Hillary was in office.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 01:14 PM (39g3+)

261 "..."killed 12 years ago" is a sleazy dig to try and diminish the parent's grief.)"

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 01:11 PM (mFkVC)

No, it isn't.

You are being disingenuous by ignoring the intent of the comment, which is to separate the current administration from the administration who deployed Cpt. Khan to Iraq.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:14 PM (Zu3d9)

262 The year -- 2004

Trump was busy selling condos etc.

Hillary, otoh, was in the Senate and voted for the AUMF in Iraq:

In 2002, Senator Clinton voted in favor of the authorization to use force in Iraq. In addition to this vote, Senator Clinton gave a 20 minute speech in which she stated that Saddaam Hussein was rebuilding his WMD stockpile, pursuing nuclear weapons, and giving aid and comfort to terrorists. She stated that left unchecked, he would continue to do this and would likely destabilize the middle east which would affect American security.

(From thepoliticalguide.com)

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 31, 2016 01:14 PM (gyKtp)

263 I think if anyone was actually watching Mr. Khan, He didn't exactly come off as "likable " Then You have His obedient Wife standing silently there wearing a headscarf... I think most Americans seeing them anywhere else would be wary of them,...
Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:08 PM (O2RFr)

Yup.....wonder what wifey does for a living?

What does the Great Khan do for a living?

Seem to have a lot of time on their hands....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 31, 2016 01:14 PM (ej1L0)

264 257 "Khan has spoken out in favor of the core principles of this nation and against radical Islam. I quoted him above. "

While supporting putting the Muslim Brotherhood in the Oval Office.

Yes He's not just Your "average" Citizen.... He's an advocate for Immigration and I believe He is a member or has some connection to CAIR...He has an agenda and He used His Son's death for that end...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:15 PM (O2RFr)

265
Faux narrative bought. Check. Clinton agenda advanced. Check. Our job is done here.
Posted by: The MFM

At least until tomorrow.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 31, 2016 01:15 PM (IqV8l)

266 "And today he is on CNN lying in stating that Islam has nothing to do with terror attacks. "

And... there it is. He's pushing the BS that all Muslim supremacists do, at least to non-Muslim audiences. No one should listen to him ever again, because he's either ignorant of Islam or purposefully lying to keep people from seeing the danger from Islam.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:15 PM (fVubI)

267 What does the Great Khan do for a living?

Lawyer...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:15 PM (O2RFr)

268 I posted in a different thread that the grieving father worked for Jeh Johnson who got promoted due to the Pretreaus incident. The link is in my nic.

Posted by: Chillin the most at July 31, 2016 01:15 PM (BI43k)

269 Is there anything whatsoever to suspect that he or his family is anything but a fully assimilated American family?

This is bullshit.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 31, 2016 12:37 PM (SEXy3)

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He's an islamist that spoke at the DNC. You need more or do you believe all leftists at the DNC are fully assimilated Americans?

Posted by: NJRob at July 31, 2016 01:15 PM (o1h4V)

270 No, it isn't.

You are being disingenuous by ignoring the intent of the comment, which is to separate the current administration from the administration who deployed Cpt. Khan to Iraq.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:14 PM (Zu3d9)

This is a more generous reading and may be correct. I concede the point.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 01:15 PM (mFkVC)

271 Your desire to lecture others here and to try to claim moral authority is as aggravating as when I see and hear Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Elizabeth Warren do it.

All trolls are Average Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at July 31, 2016 01:16 PM (rwI+c)

272 Killed 12 years ago adds important context. This family has been silent for a dozen years. The mother claims that pictures of her son continue to incapacitate her whoch is why she chose at the last minute to not speak after 12 years.

Conext.

You think the Dems will be sympathetic to Chris Kyles family in 2026? They can't even be civil NOW.

Try again MeowMix.

Posted by: reason - TEXIT at July 31, 2016 01:16 PM (nKoz8)

273 I think elder Khans grief is sincere

I likewise agree that his son died a hero to this nation

It does not follow, however, that the majority of Muslims who immigrate here would adopt our values

There is a mountain of evidence to suggest otherwise.

Khan the elder was their to advocate for them, the anticipated wave of Muslim immigrants. I got no problem attacking that. At all

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:16 PM (zOTsN)

274 Senator Clinton gave a 20 minute speech in which she stated that Saddaam Hussein was rebuilding his WMD stockpile, pursuing nuclear weapons, and giving aid and comfort to terrorists. She stated that left unchecked, he would continue to do this and would likely destabilize the middle east which would affect American security.

All of which was 100% absolute fact. The Clintons were big on removing Hussein from office until 2004 when suddenly she decided it was politically inexpedient.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 31, 2016 01:16 PM (39g3+)

275 Fuck Khan, and frankly fuck Muslims-period.

I look to EUrabia and have no desire for that to be our future.

I'll respect Khan right around the time Hillary! admits she is a lying c*nt who knowingly told falsehoods to the Benghazi deceased's survivors.

IOW "never."

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 01:16 PM (SzZnW)

276 "Ok, so Smith and the families who lost folks to illegal immigrant killers are NOT using their deceased loved ones as "political props" but the Khan's are. "

A soldier who volunteered to serve is a different category from people innocently going about their lives when a foreign national illegally in the US kills them.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:17 PM (fVubI)

277 We have a candidate who is throwing haymakers (nothing but haymakers) in a fight against the media and the Bush/Clinton/Obama status quo who throws nothing but haymakers. Will Trump miss and be penalized? Of course.

But it beats the hell out of the past strategy of not defending against the haymakers and only throwing a light jab every now and then for optics.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 01:17 PM (a94gW)

278
And the Trump Campaign Full Transcript of response on Khizr Khan on ABC This Week Sunday Interview With George Stephanopoulos, with associated campaign statement:

http://tinyurl.com/zr5app5

Because some persons self-anointed moral superiority also apparently includes never linking to jack to support their statements or provide context.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 31, 2016 01:17 PM (kdS6q)

279 In light of this ordeal, Trump should get William Shatner on the campaign trail with him to reprise his most memorable Star Trek II line.

Posted by: mugiwara at July 31, 2016 01:18 PM (rJnvs)

280 Too late Mr. Khan is on every channel ....
Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 12:40 PM (O2RFr)

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Which is why it's important to call out his BS, which Dave in Texas doesn't want to do.

Posted by: NJRob at July 31, 2016 01:18 PM (o1h4V)

281 "Trump is as opposed to the Constitution as Hillary."

Doubtful. And in any case, he'd actually face checks and balances, unlike Hillary. She'd have the press (still) ignoring every crime she commits, while the politicians couldn't bring themselves to move against the Historic First Woman President.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:18 PM (fVubI)

282 Khan is like a hundred year old smoker telling you cigarettes are good for you because look at him.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 31, 2016 01:18 PM (3Rr8K)

283 No, Dave isn't right. Trump didn't do well, but Dave is absolutely wrong. Those aren't kids dying over there. They are men. They made the choice. That doesn't give the parent ANY special privilege. Especially not a muslim father. As far as I can see, his faith is what led him to being killed, one way or the other. His father does need to shut up and understand he is part of the problem.

Posted by: Doom at July 31, 2016 01:19 PM (4JtYT)

284 A soldier who volunteered to serve is a different category from people innocently going about their lives when a foreign national illegally in the US kills them.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:17 PM (fVubI)
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Keep flailing around for an artificial distinction that will stick.

I dislike the trend of political parties using grieving families to make points. But what's acceptable for one is acceptable for both.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 01:19 PM (mFkVC)

285 There are guys who have served who are white supremacists/KKK types. There are guys who have served who are black panthers/black nationalists. I know an Army vet who is a raving communist.

The fact that these people served, and may have served honorably and even sacrificially does not validate their belief system. That is what the Democrat propaganda is trying to push here. They are trying to validate Islam as an acceptable ideology based on this one individual's service. Of course, they would never do that for a KKK-type who served.

We need to face head-on the question of the compatibility of Islam with our Constitution, our common law and our society.

And the answer is, it is not compatible. Islam divides the world into two parts, the part that has submitted to Islam and the part that Islam is at war with. Islam is opposed to freedom of speech and freedom of conscience. And there are other tenets of Islam that cannot be reconciled with our constitution and legal principles.

It's too bad Trump backed off on the Muslim immigration ban. What we never see in the MSM is an actual examination of Islam as a belief system, and a comparison with the American principles of the dignity and worth of every life, inalienable natural rights and equal protection under the law with the principles of Islam. The only thing the MSM puts out on Islam is propaganda of accomplishments in mathematics and art and so forth.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at July 31, 2016 01:19 PM (5xDis)

286 I see Hillary after Her Triumphant Coronation can't even draw more than 200 people to Her "ralleys." She even cancelled one......

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:19 PM (O2RFr)

287 >>"Khan has spoken out in favor of the core principles of this nation and against radical Islam. I quoted him above. "

Khan was on CNN this morning saying the terrorists are not true Islam. We've heard this again and again from the Left, so forgive the horde if they're just not buying Khan's DNC narrative that muslim immigrants should be considered potential great Americans simply because his son served.

If Khan believes that Islamic terrorists have greatly misunderstood the religion he shares with them (and he may, I can't know what's in his heart), then why is he not criticizing *them*?!?

Criticize the people you believe are giving your religion a bad name and making people fear all your community --- don't lash out at the people who have noticed the trend.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 01:19 PM (NOIQH)

288 The irony is that Khan should be criticizing Hillary, not making speeches at the DNC to help her get elected. After all, Hillary actually voted to send Khan's son to Iraq, where he was killed.

The fact that some so-called "conservatives" are falling for this emotional ploy by the Democrats is disheartening, to say the least. I'm not Trump fan either but some of you have decided that you're going to be 100% anti-Trump and thus are ignoring logic and rational thought when it comes to evaluating both Trump's comments and those of his critics.

Posted by: Slappy at July 31, 2016 01:19 PM (rtfSu)

289 "Why do you think he joined up?"

College benefits? Something to do? Wanted to travel?

Wanted to learn how to handle weapons?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:19 PM (fVubI)

290 Interesting question by George Stephy. I wonder, for a matter of comparison, what sacrifices he or Hillary! made for this country. Oh wait, Hillary! sacrificed others to benefit herself.

Posted by: jim at July 31, 2016 01:20 PM (A0Ch9)

291 Khan is no true Scotsman.

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at July 31, 2016 01:20 PM (rwI+c)

292 "In a year or so, a lot of "conservatives" are going to be pretending they didn't take the positions they are right now. They will pretend they didn't defend the things they are defending right now."

We know you will, "person". But we'll likely forgive you anyway.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:21 PM (fVubI)

293

Khan the elder is CAIR?

Will any of these brave journalists ask him about Israel? As long as he is now clothed as a political expert

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:21 PM (zOTsN)

294 268,
Chances of that being reported on?

Zero. Point. Zero.

As has been previously mentioned, the next Mohammedian event will put this in a different light...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 01:21 PM (C9pBZ)

295 A lot of those Democrats voted for the Iraqi war, then immediately reversed course as soon as the election was over. I knew that would happen because I had seen it before during Vietnam. Bush maneuvered to get that vote just before the election so it would be in everybody's mind. I thought that was a mistake.

During the first gulf war my Democrat Senator was Ernest Hollings. He voted against it. His in-State popularity dropped to 10% and if his reelection campaign had come up that year he could have been beaten by the yellow-dogs that all voted for him. After they "forgot".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 31, 2016 01:21 PM (mpXpK)

296 Well, if nothing else, our plant here is eating up bandwidth. Check is in the mail.

Posted by: Media Splatters at July 31, 2016 01:22 PM (Tyii7)

297 "Every time I get hopeful I am reminded that Donald Trump is Donald Trump."

DJT do what DJT do. Got him this far.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 31, 2016 01:22 PM (9ym/8)

298 290 Interesting question by George Stephy. I wonder, for a matter of comparison, what sacrifices he or Hillary! made for this country. Oh wait, Hillary! sacrificed others to benefit herself.
Posted by: jim at July 31, 2016 01:20 PM (A0Ch9)
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For the record, Clinton is as vulnerable as Trump on the "sacrifice" issue. It's a bad question, although Trump should have had a better response.

Posted by: person at July 31, 2016 01:22 PM (mFkVC)

299 Is there anything whatsoever to suspect that he or his family is anything but a fully assimilated American family?

This is bullshit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 31, 2016 12:37 PM (SEXy3)

A) mohammadan
B) democrat
C) general record of anyone else to actually assimilate in living memory

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 31, 2016 01:22 PM (3Liv/)

300 Why didn't Mr Khan speak at the 2008 Republican Convention for John McCain?

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 01:22 PM (a94gW)

301 "Why do you think he joined up?"

College benefits? Something to do? Wanted to travel?

Wanted to learn how to handle weapons?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:19 PM (fVubI)

Private luxury condos by the beach!

Posted by: Private Benjamin at July 31, 2016 01:23 PM (JO9+V)

302 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 31, 2016 01:17 PM (kdS6q)

It sounds much better in its entirety.

But let us not be naive and assume that the MSM is going to treat anyone not named Clinton or Obama fairly.

The perception is reality here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:23 PM (Zu3d9)

303 >>I don't care what that woman up there the mother' has felt, he continued. Her emotions are her own. But for the country in choosing a leader, it's wrong to have someone get up there and tell a lie about Hillary Clinton. Its not true. It's logically not true. I think it's wrong that they ruined their evening with this.

Chris Matthews commenting on the speech by Patrica Smith, mother of Sean Smith who was murdered in Benghazi. You might also recall Hillary has called her a liar.

Of course Trump handled it crudely. Trump. But enough with the handwringing. The left doesn't care about dead soldiers, look how they've treated the memory of Chris Kyle and others. Look at their disgusting display at the DNC that the msm did their best to coverup.

Trump doesn't own anyone an apology. They want to play bloody shirt politics well then expect blowback. The left has no moral authority on any issue.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 31, 2016 01:23 PM (/tuJf)

304 "There was a muslim that helped us over in Afganistan. He was brought to US, became a citizen, and has now left and joined ISIS."

In other words, he helped the US in Afghanistan in order to win a tribal war. Once he was taken out of that environment, he decided the war ordained by Mohammed was more to his liking.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:23 PM (fVubI)

305 Well over 8000 American soldiers have been killed by Muslims since 2001.

Lets wait and hear from their parents.

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at July 31, 2016 01:23 PM (N7G17)

306 " Keep flailing around for an artificial distinction that will stick. "

MeowMix gets up every day, eats a banana and goes to work stapling papers at the DMV. You know why?

YOU KNOW WHY?

Because she is willing to die for her country when the subway is hit with a suicide bomber.

That's why.

Thank you for your dedication to stapling.

Posted by: reason - TEXIT at July 31, 2016 01:24 PM (nKoz8)

307 Ernest Hollings

They-ahs too much consumin' goin' on out they-ah!

Posted by: Media Splatters at July 31, 2016 01:24 PM (Tyii7)

308 Please read the link in my nic- and the blog it is from- for information on Kahn. He worked with and for Jeh Johnson. Besides, since Hillary had The mother of the slain ambassador say not to use the dead to make political points, why was Kahn allowed to?

Posted by: Chillin the most at July 31, 2016 01:24 PM (BI43k)

309

They didn't bring him father up there because he was a dead soldier

They did it because he was a dead Muslim

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:24 PM (zOTsN)

310 I am so sick of this recycled "Conservative chicken hawk" bullshit.
It is not only a general fallacy, but completely off point with the issue of immigration.
Trump is not advocating invading the middle east.
He is advocating not letting in those at war with us.
If anything, he tends to the isolationist strain of America First.
By liberal logic I guess those who have not "worn the uniform" of law enforcement have no right to criticize police tactics either.
I would say our politics are more 1860 than 1968.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 31, 2016 01:24 PM (3Rr8K)

311
College benefits? Something to do? Wanted to travel?

Wanted to learn how to handle weapons?

To travel to strange and distant lands where he could meet interesting people from an ancient culture and kill them.

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at July 31, 2016 01:24 PM (rwI+c)

312 Dave in Texas @DaveinTexas

I'm nobody, but if anyone lost a child in combat they could scream "you fuckhead" to my face and I'd shut up and take it

Someone screaming "you fuckhead" is different than someone trying to work for one side in a political campaign - especially for an America-hating, commie friendly, muzzie-friendly side.

Losing a son in combat down't give the parents any special political power or make the parent untouchable in some special way.

Don't let your ideas of respect run amok. There are limits to everything.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 31, 2016 01:25 PM (zc3Db)

313 "Oh, and I dislike the GOPe. I have disliked them for years, and I dislike them just as much now that they have embraced Trump."

Spoken like a Hillary supporter.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:25 PM (fVubI)

314
It sounds much better in its entirety.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Which is why all you're seeing is pull quotes and overwrought responses to the same. As usual.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 31, 2016 01:25 PM (kdS6q)

315 Jack straw,
Your last para is perfect. I'm stealing it.
Thanks!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 01:26 PM (C9pBZ)

316 I swear. There is something to this media/east coast Stockholm syndrome

The rest of the country doesn't believe that these Muslim immigrants are going to assimilate and become war heroes. At least not for us

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:27 PM (zOTsN)

317 Ldc,
Indeed. Well said.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 01:27 PM (C9pBZ)

318 No, Dave isn't right. Trump didn't do well, but Dave is absolutely wrong. Those aren't kids dying over there. They are men. They made the choice. That doesn't give the parent ANY special privilege. Especially not a muslim father. As far as I can see, his faith is what led him to being killed, one way or the other. His father does need to shut up and understand he is part of the problem.

Posted by: Doom at July 31, 2016 01:19 PM (4JtYT)

It sucks that his kid was killed, but who the hell is Khan to be up there criticizing Trump??

Khan is only up there because of his religion. Did Khan, or anybody else in the Democratic party, condemn Trump because of all the CHRISTIANS that have died defending this country??

Because it's a helluva lot more than 14, yet as usual nobody gives a shit about them. Muslims are part of the Narrative, and Christians, along with conservatives, are to be ignored first, then fought and disposed of.

With all due respect to Mr. Khan, he can go fuck himself.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 31, 2016 01:27 PM (Idu2i)

319 Don't let your ideas of respect run amok. There are limits to everything.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 31, 2016 01:25 PM (zc3Db)

Yes. And Seamus Muldoon made this point upthread.

The Horde is certainly persuasive; I am less enthusiastic about DiT's tweet, but I am also very irritated that Trump fell into the trap......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:27 PM (Zu3d9)

320

Let's just all agree that no parent should ever see their children killed in a war.

No president should ever send good men and women off to die in a war.

Let's just go with that and see where it takes us.

Then we can argue about good wars and bad wars, and good presidents and bad presidents.

Like Bush who sent good men and women off to die needless in Iraq. And President Obama who, after the war was won, gave it all back to the enemy we were fighting. Or the Democrats in the early sixties who said we had to defend South Vietnam against the godless commies and it would be a glorious adventure and drafted millions of men to go off to war, and then in the mid seventies, after the war was won, those same democrats gave it all away, for political reasons, because they hated Nixon, and because the democrat party had been taken over by the godless commies we were fighting.

We are in a war right now, and right now, half the people in this country are on the side of the enemy.

Fuck all y'all. Rot in hell, everyone of you.

Posted by: Arnold Brasscaster at July 31, 2016 01:27 PM (ln7w3)

321 "Trump is just ignorant of and unconcerned with it. The result will be the same."

Right... giving your assertion that Trump is "ignorant and unconcerned" about the Constitution, you honestly believe that the press and other pols will not criticize him and hold him in check -- to the point of impeachment if he's that bad?

Because Hillary, who is *actively* hostile to the Constitution, *WON'T* be held in check. The press won't because she's Their Girl, the Democrats won't because she'll be giving them more power, and the Republicans won't because she's a Historic First.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:28 PM (fVubI)

322 All trolls are Average Joe.
Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at July 31, 2016 01:16 PM (rwI+c)

Who sucks cocks by choice.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 01:29 PM (0mRoj)

323 Last post on this but let me also point out that "immigration lawyers" make money from advocating to let their clients into the country.
I can't imagine that a high profile "let the Muslim immigrants come to the US" stance would hurt his practice any.
If anything, Trump missed the opportunity to point out, businessman to businessman, that Mr. Khan appears to be the one trying to profit directly from his son's death.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 31, 2016 01:29 PM (3Rr8K)

324 I was kind of a spotty lurker back then, did people take erg or palin steele as seriously as some here are taking the current incarnation? Why even respond to such unserious crap?

It's empty teenage contrarianism may bear a strong resemblance to the "principled" histrionics of some regulars, but still.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 01:29 PM (QDnY+)

325 Cool Constitution, Kahn.

Posted by: TFG at July 31, 2016 01:30 PM (svFmG)

326 How's that chicken doing?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 31, 2016 01:30 PM (/pUiX)

327
All trolls are Average Joe.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

Who sucks cocks by choice.
Posted by: Insomniac

And thus will probably get a Navy destroyer named after him....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 31, 2016 01:30 PM (kdS6q)

328 There ws a guy on Gutfield last night that does analysis of negative and positive opinions of the candidates and he was saying that most of Trumps's supposed "gaffes" go this way. He says something that people are shrieking is offensive, most people find it just awful, etc. negative negative, then oddly, Trumps ends up with a positive bounce out of it once the shrieking dies down and people actually think about the entire situation he was addressing.

So it is with this. People are horrified at first(my own reaction) that he would come back and criticize a gold star family. I was thinking this , then Khan and his wife were shown at the podium and Trumps' comments were voiced over, which were that he didn't understand why Khan's wife didn't speak, maybe she wasn't allowed, he didn't know.

And right there in a nutshell, was a perfect caption.

Muslim father whose son died twelve years ago in Iraq, killed, I might add by other Muslims, is attacking a political candidate and waving a pocket constitution around, which doesn't apply to the exec. office said candidate is seeking in how he conducts the actual nuts and bolts of immigration. While he's doing this, his wife is standing there silently, in a head scarf while he wears western clothing.

This is the muslim culture that the Dem present. The Dems who scream constantly about female oppression, inequality, etc. and they paraded a culture whose oppression of women right in front of everyone, while paying or whatever Mr.Khan to howl false charges against Trump.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 31, 2016 01:31 PM (NNq1n)

329 326 How's that chicken doing?
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 31, 2016 01:30 PM (/pUiX)

Prolapsed.

Posted by: The Chicken at July 31, 2016 01:31 PM (0mRoj)

330 We took on erg and stoole for sport and practice. Like shooting clay pigeons.

Posted by: reason - TEXIT at July 31, 2016 01:31 PM (nKoz8)

331 Khan's son was killed in 2004. Wasn't Trump still a Democrat at that time?

Posted by: centralscrutinizer at July 31, 2016 01:32 PM (vI+F1)

332 304 "There was a muslim that helped us over in Afganistan. He was brought to US, became a citizen, and has now left and joined ISIS."

In other words, he helped the US in Afghanistan in order to win a tribal war. Once he was taken out of that environment, he decided the war ordained by Mohammed was more to his liking.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:23 PM (fVubI)

Again Khan Jr was was an officer guarding the gate a year after the IED epidemic began. Why would he have many Maerican soldiers lined up at the Gaye with a parked Iqari Vehicle basically next to them.

Also don't officers have to undergo strict forensic psychological profiles and exams while alive and after death? Where is his? Did he have one? Who is giving these psychologicals? Are they standard or sharia complaiant?

I'm not trying to Shit on this young man's death. He was not the only one to die and injured in the attack, which is my point.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 01:32 PM (a94gW)

333 I joined to dry out and get in some kind of shape else I'd be dead by 30. Got to bang a hot MP babe and drive an EM-50 behind enemy lines. For that they made me a hero. That's the facts, jack!

Posted by: Private Winger at July 31, 2016 01:33 PM (JO9+V)

334 "Donald Trump attacks father of dead soldier with 'I wish him the best of luck."

Oh the horror!

And I do love the article how it gives the text of what the father said, but Trumps answer is only directed at what Snufflepagus was asking.

Posted by: buzzion at July 31, 2016 01:34 PM (bMG0w)

335 My DRUNKENEST diatribes about breaking bitches with crossbows while experimenting with gay bear sticks and extraordinory stories of idiocy, NEVER fell to the level of social ignorance trump displays in every single sentence.

His pouty whiny little new york mouth breathing weak chinned mouth offends me. And his words disgust me. But that fucker, gets what he wants this time around. Why? because YOU STUPID FUCKERS! isolated CRUZ! and let this fucking CHILD! win the nomination, and GOD FUCKING HELP ME! I will vote for him.

I am going to start going to church again. Why? because my life is so great and he's shined a light on my life that allows me to prosper? No, all the good shit that has happened to me in the last 4 years is by my own doing. I believe in god now, because THIS IS A SHITSTORM!

And only a vengeful and angry god active in the lives of man would be able to accomplish this level of degeneracy.

I NOW believe in god, because there is no way anything other than divine intervention could have painted me into this corner.

I am in the whale.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 01:35 PM (92bDo)

336 I'm not trying to Shit on this young man's death. He was not the only one to die and injured in the attack, which is my point.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 01:32 PM (a94gW)

Along those lines, why are the progressive scum bragging about 14 Muslims killed in battle?

When I first heard that my initial response was "that's all?" That ain't much to brag about in my mind.

Again, let's take a wild ass guess at how many Christians and Jew have died for this country. Muslim numbers pale in comparison, but as usual nobody points this out or cares.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 31, 2016 01:36 PM (Idu2i)

337 "Donald Trump attacks father of dead soldier with 'I wish him the best of luck."

Oh the horror!

And I do love the article how it gives the text of what the father said, but Trumps answer is only directed at what Snufflepagus was asking.
Posted by: buzzion at July 31, 2016 01:34 PM (bMG0w)
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Imagine that!

Posted by: RioBravo at July 31, 2016 01:36 PM (NUqwG)

338 334,
Exactly so.

This too, will pass

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 01:36 PM (C9pBZ)

339 I look on the bright side: the Reds are evolving. For generations it's been "Mother this" and "Mother That," as in "Mother Jones" and "Mother Sheehan."

Now they've got "Father Khan." "Mother Khan" didn't get to open her yap.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 01:36 PM (SRKgf)

340 Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 01:35 PM (92bDo)

Umm OK. Can I interest you in a lithium salt lick?

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 31, 2016 01:37 PM (dPrPG)

341 "Keep flailing around for an artificial distinction that will stick. "

So a volunteer soldier serving in a combat zone is, too you, EXACTLY THE SAME as a mother driving her kids home from school who gets t-boned by a drunk Mexican who crossed the desert to work under the table?

If you cannot distinguish between those two, I seriously hope you were never, and are never, in a position to direct military force.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:37 PM (fVubI)

342 All officers do not get psych exams.

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:37 PM (zOTsN)

343 Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 01:35 PM (92bDo)

I'm particulary glad that these lovely children were here today to hear that ...

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at July 31, 2016 01:37 PM (rwI+c)

344 339 I look on the bright side: the Reds are evolving. For generations it's been "Mother this" and "Mother That," as in "Mother Jones" and "Mother Sheehan."

Now they've got "Father Khan." "Mother Khan" didn't get to open her yap.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 01:36 PM (SRKgf)

When my husband permits me to speak, I am only allowed to say "death to America"!

Posted by: Mother Khan at July 31, 2016 01:37 PM (0mRoj)

345 Cool Constitution, Kahn.

Really... Great prop... Like all American Muslims are carrying around a copy of the Constitution to show how Patriotic they are...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:38 PM (O2RFr)

346 Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 01:35 PM (92bDo)

I think this comment should be enshrined somewhere. Awesome.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 31, 2016 01:38 PM (Idu2i)

347 Mr. Trump's a plum lolly and a rat-a-tat-tat to boot!

when he gets electered president I'm a do my happy dance you just watch

Posted by: happyfeet at July 31, 2016 01:39 PM (mLfQi)

348 Well, Trump didn't criticize Khan. At all. But I guess some people are just going to go on pretending that he did.

Incidentally, I would have. I would have done it viciously, too. Guy's a political opportunist. He entered the arena. In the arena, punches are thrown.

Posted by: Anti Antifa at July 31, 2016 01:39 PM (yJ3fO)

349 Was that really wicked pinto. Wow

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:40 PM (zOTsN)

350 I see Mrs. Khan has now found her voice (or somebody found a voice for her) and she is now writing OpEds for the WaPo. What a shocking turn of events. Never could have seen this coming.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 31, 2016 01:40 PM (/tuJf)

351 Khan outta read that pocket constitution, might learn a thing or two on what should be allowed and what shouldn't.

I still detest leftists.

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2016 01:40 PM (bksJQ)

352
I am in the whale.

Goo goo g'joob

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 31, 2016 01:40 PM (IqV8l)

353 >>>People have got to stop capitulating to the expectations of politically correct assclowns.

Exactly. All it does is make your base feel like you are a weak and impotent wuss, like Jeb or Romney, while the Left continues to hate you just as much. Trump may have alienated some, but not me, or most people here, even the ones who think he made a mistake. And as for person? He didn't have person's vote to begin with.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 31, 2016 01:41 PM (rDxLs)

354 I see Mrs. Khan has now found her voice (or somebody found a voice for her) and she is now writing OpEds for the WaPo. What a shocking turn of events. Never could have seen this coming.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 31, 2016 01:40 PM (/tuJf)

"It Takes an IED?"

Also, should "writing" be enclosed in quotes?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 01:42 PM (SRKgf)

355 Psychiatric examinations of officers? Why, I am the one responsible for administering these.

And if you think this ink blot looks like the Prophet, I cut your head off!!!

Posted by: Major Nidal Hassan at July 31, 2016 01:42 PM (5xDis)

356 Khan is the MSM's/DNC 2016 Cindy Sheehan.. As soon as his usefulness is through they'll be done with him...

Posted by: Hawkeye005 (@Hawkeye005) at July 31, 2016 01:42 PM (Tcgst)

357 Again, let's take a wild ass guess at how many Christians and Jew have
died for this country. Muslim numbers pale in comparison, but as usual
nobody points this out or cares.
---
Historic numbers (for the nation) or just in the current war with faithful mohammadans

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 31, 2016 01:42 PM (3Liv/)

358 It doesn't even sound as bad in the actual interview as what the article text is trying to make it sound like.

To me this sounds like they're trying to do when they went for the "Trump vs. the Pope" fight that Trump shoved back down their throats. They want "Donald Trump attacks father of fallen soldier!"

Posted by: buzzion at July 31, 2016 01:42 PM (bMG0w)

359 Khan is a tool, but a tool,is what he wants to be. His ridiculous statement towards Trump while an obedient slave wife stood behind him was repulsive.
Maybe you should read Hillaryis44.org read on Mr Khan, where he came from and why he us in the US.
That is no longer a Hillary site, it's about 99% pro Trump.

We've come a long way baby !

Posted by: sandy at July 31, 2016 01:42 PM (hAahG)

360 Well, Trump didn't criticize Khan. At all. But I guess some people are just going to go on pretending that he did.

Which? The mother, the father, or the child?

Oh, he got it right, the FOURTH time around, GOOD JOB MR. BRILLIAT STRATEGIST Trump.

Yeah I'm me, I don't be me most of the time, but when I'm angry I come back as me.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 01:42 PM (92bDo)

361 I am in the whale.

Sorry honey, I just can't feel you. It's not your fault, sweetie, it's just that I'm used to taking 8-foot dicks.

Posted by: The whale at July 31, 2016 01:42 PM (0mRoj)

362 "Why? because YOU STUPID FUCKERS! isolated CRUZ! and let this fucking CHILD! win the nomination, and GOD FUCKING HELP ME! I will vote for him"

Cruz isolated Cruz. He ran a pretty marginal campaign and hit a lot of wrong notes. And he was a no-class chicken-shit at the convention.

I won't vote for him again.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 31, 2016 01:43 PM (9ym/8)

363 When my husband permits me to speak, I am only allowed to say "death to America"!

Posted by: Mother Khan at July 31, 2016 01:37 PM (0mRoj)

I was hoping for her to yell "Allahu Akhbar" at the DNC.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 01:43 PM (SRKgf)

364 342 All officers do not get psych exams.
Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:37 PM (zOTsN

That is interesting. Thank you for answering a question I asked. I assumed at some point during a war while alive or after death they would.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 01:43 PM (a94gW)

365 200
I live in an area with a lot of Trump supporters.

The idea of "white guilt" is as foreign to them as futbol.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at July 31, 2016 01:00 PM (dPrPG)

Good, because "white guilt" is going to get us all killed. It's already given us Obama, the Avenging Angel of the Third World.

This shit needs to stop, and it needs to stop now. The white race has NOTHING to apologize for.

Posted by: rickl at July 31, 2016 01:43 PM (sdi6R)

366 Wait till they get a load of me!

Posted by: Shere Kahn at July 31, 2016 01:43 PM (JO9+V)

367
What's with this "patriotism" crap from the Democrats?

I remember when Kerry was saying if you didn't stay in school you'd end up as a loser in the military and dead in Iraq.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 31, 2016 01:43 PM (RcpcZ)

368 "It Takes an IED?"

To raze a village?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 01:44 PM (0mRoj)

369 If I had, or was considering buying or building a Cetime C, I'd buy this:

Original armorer's repair kit for Cetme Model C Rifles .308/7.62 NATO, USED

http://bit.ly/2aqScBV

Even if you didn't, you could probably part it out over the next year or two for a profit.

Just saying.

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at July 31, 2016 01:44 PM (rwI+c)

370 If one of the Benghazi parents at the Republican Convention had questioned Hillary lack of sacrifice, all Hell would have come down on that parent.

Still Trump should have been more nuanced from the start in his response, as he was in the end.

Posted by: Arkansas Yankee (Never Ever Crooked, Nagging, Lying, Vindictive, Security Risk Hillary) at July 31, 2016 01:44 PM (Je4OY)

371 This "story" makes the media feel very very good about itself

But nobody believes these immigrants are going to be assimilated military heroes.

It's actually quite ridiculous

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:44 PM (zOTsN)

372 350 I see Mrs. Khan has now found her voice (or somebody found a voice for her) and she is now writing OpEds for the WaPo. What a shocking turn of events. Never could have seen this coming.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 31, 2016 01:40 PM (/tuJf

I wonder what the result would be if you compared the OpEd with the standard press releases for CAIR.

Posted by: buzzion at July 31, 2016 01:44 PM (bMG0w)

373 Incidentally, does Dave in Texas also have his panties in a bunch over Hillary calling the Benghazi families liars?

No?

Oh.

Posted by: Anti Antifa at July 31, 2016 01:45 PM (yJ3fO)

374 Along those lines, why are the progressive scum bragging about 14 Muslims killed in battle?

Oh, lots more have been killed in battle. Just not in battle for our side, that's all.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 01:45 PM (SRKgf)

375 So since I missed (somehow) the entire DNC, some catch-up: the Dems had a guy waving the US constitution around, and making a big deal out of sacrifice in war?

Was that followed by Thomas Sowell giving a lecture on economic freedom, or Alito giving a lecture on the constitution and rule of law? Maybe a talk on a color-blind society from Sen. Tim Scott?

Just wondering.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 01:46 PM (QDnY+)

376 "Really... Great prop... Like all American Muslims are carrying around a copy of the Constitution to show how Patriotic they are..."

That would make an awesome 'shop -- take a picture of screaming Muslims holding up their Korans and replace the Korans with Constitutions.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 01:46 PM (fVubI)

377 The Horde is certainly persuasive; I am less enthusiastic about DiT's tweet, but I am also very irritated that Trump fell into the trap......

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:27 PM (Zu3d9)

We have seen grieving parents "force" awful decisions on us and others and un-Constitutional law on us. Mothers Against Drunk Driving all lost kids to drunk driving accidents. Now, drunk driving isn't even legal (and shouldn't be) but MADD helped to push through some of the worst, most un-Constitutional, offensive and intrusive laws regarding random stops and treating every American like a homocidal criminal, just to assuage their grief. The stupid drunk driving laws have now gotten to the point in many states where riding on your lawn mower with a beer is enough to have a cop come onto your property and arrest you for a DUI - not to mention the silliness of arresting people riding mowers and scooters to bars and getting arrested. Well, I feel bad that they lost their kids in awful ways but that doesn't give them any right to have me stopped on the road and searched for no reason or for laws to be fashioned that have made the idea of "drunk driving" so expansive and ridiculous as to be totally insane.

The list of such examples goes on and on. Grieving parents are one thing but they can almost never be allowed to affect actual policy because their recommendations are, more often than not, purely emotional and totally wrong and they generally enjoy taking advantage of their emotional position to push all sorts of crap.

I am against bringing up grieving parents to try and defend much of anything. It almost never ends well. Not always ... but pretty damn close. The Benghazi parents shouldn't even have to come up and talk about what happened. There are cops and prosecutors and people in the military and CIA whose job it is to do the right thing in that case. But once a grieving parent decides to take the stage it's important that they are not afforded any special treatment, at all. It is of utmost importance. They can get up and try to defend some argument, but they are then not to be treated as grieving parents but as advocates for that particular argument. That is the only sensible way to handle things.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 31, 2016 01:46 PM (zc3Db)

378 355 Psychiatric examinations of officers? Why, I am the one responsible for administering these.

And if you think this ink blot looks like the Prophet, I cut your head off!!!
Posted by: Major Nidal Hassan at July 31, 2016 01:42 PM (5xDis

I was waiting for this name to appear to highlight the problem.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 01:46 PM (a94gW)

379
What's with this "patriotism" crap from the Democrats?

It's the bearded Spock universe Democrats who hate Russia and love the USA.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 31, 2016 01:46 PM (IqV8l)

380 But nobody believes these immigrants are going to be assimilated military heroes.

It's actually quite ridiculous

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:44 PM (zOTsN)

But what about Maj. Hasan?

Oh, you meant heroes for our side. My bad.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 01:46 PM (SRKgf)

381 Cruz isolated Cruz. He ran a pretty marginal campaign and hit a lot of wrong notes. And he was a no-class chicken-shit at the convention.

I won't vote for him again.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 31, 2016 01:43 PM (9ym/

Really? I'm not ready to say that myself as of yet.

I just wonder what we all would do if we had had our Dad and wife attacked like he had. Even politics has it's limits.

You're right about the campaign though. That was pretty pathetic.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 31, 2016 01:47 PM (Idu2i)

382 Trump needs to ask Khan publicly if he supports gay marriage or would be willing to live next door to a gay couple.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at July 31, 2016 01:47 PM (VjPX+)

383 What does the Great Khan do for a living?
Lawyer...
Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:15 PM (O2RFr)

Thanks Donna!

How convenient for him....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 31, 2016 01:47 PM (ej1L0)

384 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 31, 2016 01:46 PM (zc3Db)

Well said.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 01:47 PM (SRKgf)

385 If they send you for a psych evaluation they are looking to kick you out for being a nut job

If they do a forensic psych evaluation after you died it's because they are trying to figure out if you killed yourself

It's not routine and is always a bad sign

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:48 PM (zOTsN)

386 //Which? The mother, the father, or the child?

Oh, he got it right, the FOURTH time around, GOOD JOB MR. BRILLIAT STRATEGIST Trump.

Yeah I'm me, I don't be me most of the time, but when I'm angry I come back as me.//

He criticized none of them, dude. He responded to a hack question by a hack reporter in a calm and measured way.

Posted by: Anti Antifa at July 31, 2016 01:48 PM (yJ3fO)

387 Mr. Khan's son died in 2004 in a war that Hillary Clinton voted for, and while we can all appreciate and respect his son's sacrifice, Trump had nothing to do with his death. Of course, Trump has a tendency to talk stupid, but that's neither here and there. Khan is clearly being used by the Democrats and if his speech at the convention weren't enough, his call for Paul Ryan and other Republicans to repudiate Trump gives the game away.
Is this man suddenly the conscience of the nation? How about if we hear an eloquent and heartfelt speech from a parent of one of those killed in Benghazi--due to Clinton fucking up?
Oh wait, we had one, And the media went "meh."

Posted by: JoeF. at July 31, 2016 01:49 PM (Dml8e)

388 Huh. Amazing how one can be writing columns for a national news source in just 48 hours.
It's almost like there was some planning...

But that's just crazy talk...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 01:49 PM (C9pBZ)

389 What's with this "patriotism" crap from the Democrats?

Try to keep up. The Party line shifted, comrade. Comrade Molotov just returned from Berlin where he signed a pact with von Ribbentrop.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 01:50 PM (SRKgf)

390 The Benghazi parents shouldn't even have to come up and talk about what happened. There are cops and prosecutors and people in the military and CIA whose job it is to do the right thing in that case.

And, most of all, it is the responsibility of the Vichy GOP turds in the House to deal with all the criminality among Barky and his junta that bore the responsibility for those murders.

I didn't want to forget that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 31, 2016 01:50 PM (zc3Db)

391 Trump needs to ask Khan publicly if he supports honor killings.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at July 31, 2016 01:50 PM (VjPX+)

392 Trump needs to ask Khan publicly if he supports female genital mutilation.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at July 31, 2016 01:50 PM (VjPX+)

393 If it's pitch perfect the overwhelming odds are that the real Donald Trump did not write it. The man is a complete narcissist clown who like all narcissists is utterly lacking in empathy. Ask why with the aftermath of the Democrat convention dominating the weekend news cycle, Trump's allies at the New York Post decided to pimp Melania Trump with a nude photo on the cover of its Sunday edition. Maybe because it distracts his supporters from the real news of the weekend? Ya think?

I will not vote for this despicable phony con man. If that upsets you, I suggest you examine your own soul as to the reasons why.

Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at July 31, 2016 01:51 PM (IzBfS)

394 This guy is just giving some version of the "chickenhawk" arguement.
Lefties do this all the time, while at the same time saying that every voice is valuable and should be heard. Unless of course, you disagree with them, and then here's a reason why you should shut up.

I don't need to be a doctor, insurance specialist, combat veteran, economist, black, gay, climate scientist, nor any of a multitude of things in order to have a valid opinion.

That anyone dares tell me when I can or can't opine tells me all I need to know about them. And it ain't good.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 31, 2016 01:51 PM (kKHcp)

395 Chaka Khan, when the walls fell

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at July 31, 2016 01:51 PM (rwI+c)

396 388 Huh. Amazing how one can be writing columns for a national news source in just 48 hours.
It's almost like there was some planning...
But that's just crazy talk...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 01:49 PM (C9pBZ)

I don't know the bios, but do we even know if she speaks English?

I had a Pakistani MD as a neighbor, and in nine years I never saw his wife. Not. Once.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 01:51 PM (SRKgf)

397 I'll say it. I have my doubts about the entire Khan family's motives and the official story for the Gold Star.

Muslims have brought this type of skepticism and cynicism on themselves.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 01:51 PM (a94gW)

398 Wait till they get a load of me!

Posted by: Shere Kahn at July 31, 2016 01:43 PM (JO9+V)

That's my line Bub, back off!!

Posted by: The Joker at July 31, 2016 01:52 PM (Idu2i)

399 Trump needs to ask Khan publicly if he supports Sharia law.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at July 31, 2016 01:52 PM (VjPX+)

400 I'm still waiting for someone to actually show me where Trump insulted Khan. I can't seem to find it, and no one seems to be able to show it to me. I've had people on Twitter post the exchange in the interview, but there are no attacks there. Trump provided a mild response to a hack question. No one's showed me the "attack" yet.

It's almost like people are operating on confirmation bias and not looking at facts.

Imagine that.

Posted by: Anti Antifa at July 31, 2016 01:52 PM (yJ3fO)

401 Trump needs to ask Khan if he supports rape of infidels and keeping us as sex slaves....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 31, 2016 01:52 PM (ej1L0)

402 "Really? I'm not ready to say that myself as of yet. "

Pretty solidified at this point. Guy had a chance to shine and be "bigger" and he missed my a mile.

Just me personally, you see.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 31, 2016 01:52 PM (9ym/8)

403 Well said, TPOP.

Though it should be added that grieving relatives or friends who are grieving the results of *policy*, not "life", are an entirely different matter. Not that their views be accorded any more weight, but that there point is pertinent - i.e. there are actual policies getting people hurt or killed.

You know, like lawlessness in immigration, and a porous border. Both of those are entirely choices made by the elites - so far "tolerated" by the electorate to the extent it hasn't yet forced a return to law and common sense, though that might be in the offing.

Again, policy sense, not "victim" status - examples of what's actually happening, giving a known but uncomfortable reality a human face.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 01:52 PM (QDnY+)

404 391 Trump needs to ask Khan publicly if he supports honor killings.
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at July 31, 2016 01:50 PM (VjPX+)

I think we know the answer, since Mrs. Khan didn't say a peep.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 01:52 PM (SRKgf)

405 That WaPo op Ed was going to be Mr Kahns op Ed until people noticed she didn't speak

Bet you a falafel she didn't write any of it

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:53 PM (zOTsN)

406 I will not vote for this despicable phony con man. If that upsets you, I suggest you examine your own soul as to the reasons why.
Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at July 31, 2016 01:51 PM (IzBfS)

The reasons are clear. You dislike Trump enough that you'd rather have Hillary.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 31, 2016 01:53 PM (kKHcp)

407 Trump needs to ask Khan publicly if he believes Christians are infidels.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at July 31, 2016 01:53 PM (VjPX+)

408 397 I'll say it. I have my doubts about the entire Khan family's motives and the official story for the Gold Star.

Muslims have brought this type of skepticism and cynicism on themselves.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 01:51 PM (a94gW

Along with our government that has been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood and other Muslim groups like it.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 01:54 PM (a94gW)

409 Maybe because it distracts his supporters from the real news of the weekend? Ya think?

Aroo? What did I miss this weekend?

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at July 31, 2016 01:54 PM (rwI+c)

410 "I will not vote for this despicable phony con man. If that upsets you, I suggest you examine your own soul as to the reasons why."

^Lol.

Virtue signal harder, bruh.

Posted by: Anti Antifa at July 31, 2016 01:54 PM (yJ3fO)

411 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 31, 2016 01:46 PM (zc3Db)

Interesting and apt comparison.....

I just took a look at "American Gold Star Mothers Inc." and they are quite careful to be apolitical, at least on their website.

[Great comment.]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:54 PM (Zu3d9)

412 Kahn can speak

And be criticized.

Like everybody else

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:54 PM (zOTsN)

413 Is this man suddenly the conscience of the nation?

A Muslim as the conscience of the nation??

What an imagination you've got.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 01:54 PM (SRKgf)

414 In my opinion the Khan's are guilty of a form of "stolen valor" by claiming the death of their son as their "sacrifice". He was an adult and chose to enter the service. The sacrifice was HIS not THEIRS. I doubt they grieve for their son anymore than the family members of those that die in any other way.

Captain Khan died when there was at least some effort to win the war and find a greater good. Hillery's platform is merely to continue Obama's endless engagement without any hope or strategy for success.

Posted by: Splinterhead at July 31, 2016 01:54 PM (rurcp)

415 I'll say it. I have my doubts about the entire Khan family's motives and the official story for the Gold Star.

Muslims have brought this type of skepticism and cynicism on themselves.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 01:51 PM (a94gW)

Anybody who supports Democrats/progressive scum should automatically be questioned as to motives, intelligence, patriotism and pretty much everything else.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 31, 2016 01:55 PM (Idu2i)

416 Speaking of reading Constitutions, have any Texans read the Texas Constitution? If Ted Cruz were to memorize it, even I would be impressed.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 31, 2016 01:55 PM (NUqwG)

417 So I guess Wallace at Fox gave Hillary a soft ball interview.... Surprise!

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:55 PM (O2RFr)

418 Sorry, but Khan needs to go away. Evidently, his reading comprehension skills are pretty weak if he thinks there is anything in the Constitution that mandates unfettered immigration rights to Muslims worldwide.

Time for us to get nasty and trot out some grieving family to make this exact point, complete with constitution in hand.

Posted by: Baltar at July 31, 2016 01:55 PM (n6tqt)

419 409 Maybe because it distracts his supporters from the real news of the weekend? Ya think?

Aroo? What did I miss this weekend?
Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at July 31, 2016 01:54 PM (rwI+c)

NY Post has a couple of old nekkid pics of Melania Trump from a photoshoot in her modeling days in the 90s. It's old news really. She's really hot though, but that's old news too.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 01:56 PM (0mRoj)

420 "I'm nobody, but if anyone lost a child in combat they could scream "you fuckhead" to my face and I'd shut up and take it."

At what point do you grow a spine and take up for yourself? The 10th time? The 100th? How about murder? does losing a child give you a get out of jail free card for the rest of your life? That may be one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever read.

Posted by: DFCtomm at July 31, 2016 01:56 PM (LzDgA)

421 if he worked for johnson then he's on loan from the wh to the hill.

Posted by: concrete girl at July 31, 2016 01:56 PM (arGLD)

422 The Alabama Constitution has 310,296 words.

It's a trainwreck.

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at July 31, 2016 01:56 PM (rwI+c)

423 413 Is this man suddenly the conscience of the nation?

A Muslim as the conscience of the nation??

Nah, He's an example of the oft quoted Muslim "backlash!" as the MSM would like You to believe...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 01:57 PM (O2RFr)

424 Posted by: Major Nidal Hassan at July 31, 2016 01:42 PM (5xDis

And all we ever needed to learn about Military Psychologists we learned watching Private Will Stockdale interact with Corporal John C Brown in No Time For Sergeants (195

.

https://youtu.be/qYjoUpRsWGE

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 31, 2016 01:57 PM (JO9+V)

425 Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at July 31, 2016 01:51 PM (IzBfS)

I think you are being a bit harsh, but I won't argue too much about anything you wrote, except for the not voting against Hillary part.

Because if you don't vote for Trump it is, pretty much, a vote for Hillary.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:57 PM (Zu3d9)

426 The Democrats do this shit all the time. They dare us, they troll us. No one would sound insensitive in talking about Mr. Khan if he wasn't being used as a tool.
It's similar with other things. No one would be talking about how unattractive Michelle Obama is if they weren't always talking about how "beautiful" she is; or how dopey Chelsea seems to be if they weren't always saying how "accomplished" she is.
They do it all the time--and we fall for it all the time.
So does Trump.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 31, 2016 01:57 PM (Dml8e)

427 Hillary and the Democrats are saying 14 Muslims died in service to the US?

It is probably the case that when you add up the US servicemen killed by Major Hasan and in other attacks, that more US soldiers have been killed by Muslims in the US armed forces than there have been Muslims in the US armed forces who died in service to the US.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at July 31, 2016 01:58 PM (5xDis)

428 >>I will not vote for this despicable phony con man. If that upsets you, I suggest you examine your own soul as to the reasons why.

It doesn't upset me. Your vote, your choice.

Hillary Clinton isn't just a con woman, which she is many times over Trump, she sold out this country many times for personal enrichment. Where is your outrage over that? Or is all your outrage saved for a guy without blood on his hands?

I'm awfully tired of the moral preening on both sides in this election. Neither of these candidates are people I supported or wanted as a nominee. I didn't get what I wanted, boo hoo.

But I'll vote for Trump over the evil grifter and her equally evil husband in a heartbeat and sleep soundly. If Hillary wins and you do nothing to try and stop her, I trust your soul will react accordingly.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 31, 2016 01:59 PM (/tuJf)

429 Was there all of this back and forth bullshit before the north and south got down to shooting in the first civil war?

Posted by: Weasel at July 31, 2016 01:59 PM (zNvaH)

430 Honestly, the father is using his son's death to spread Islam so fuck him.

Posted by: Lauren at July 31, 2016 01:59 PM (64nOq)

431 I will not vote for this despicable phony con man. If that upsets you, I suggest you examine your own soul as to the reasons why.
Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at July 31, 2016 01:51 PM (IzBfS)

If Hillary is elected and rapidly continues us down a path toward being a post-Constitutional, third-world Marxist hell hole, I would suggest that you keep your mouth closed about it. You helped to enable it, so you deserve it.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 31, 2016 01:59 PM (H6376)

432 Is there a network for "Fragged Families"?

Give them some air time

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 01:59 PM (zOTsN)

433 418
Time for us to get nasty and trot out some grieving family to make this exact point, complete with constitution in hand.
Posted by: Baltar at July 31, 2016 01:55 PM (n6tqt)

Exactly. Time to get nasty.

I will not be lectured to by a Muslim. I don't care what his son did.

Posted by: rickl at July 31, 2016 01:59 PM (sdi6R)

434 Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 01:56 PM (0mRoj)

I am really confused by the whole idea that I, or any red-blooded American male voter is going to be put off by some photos of a really, really good looking woman in various states of undress, taken as an accepted part of her employment as a model.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:59 PM (Zu3d9)

435 As Ben Shapiro points out, Muslims killed Capt. Kahn

Posted by: tmitsss at July 31, 2016 02:00 PM (tGfPA)

436 I will vote for this despicable phony con man over the murderous, lying Hillary. If that upsets you, I suggest you examine your own soul as to the reasons why.

Trump/Pence 2016....making you safe from becoming Khan's sex slave and having your clitoris cut off!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 31, 2016 02:00 PM (ej1L0)

437 I will not vote for this despicable phony con man. If that upsets you, I suggest you examine your own soul as to the reasons why.
Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at July 31, 2016 01:51 PM (IzBfS)

*cackle cackle*. Thanks for your *cough cough cough cough* *hic* support! *siezes* *collapses*

Posted by: Hillary at July 31, 2016 02:01 PM (0mRoj)

438 And losing a son in combat doesn't make you any less capable of being a political tool.

Posted by: Lauren at July 31, 2016 02:01 PM (64nOq)

439 Otoh, it's interesting that trump is willing to strike back. More than a few are acting as a puppy suddenly smacked on the nose for the first time.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 02:01 PM (C9pBZ)

440 //They do it all the time--and we fall for it all the time.
So does Trump.//

Eh. He didn't really "fall" for anything. A stupid hack "journalist" asked him a stupid hack question and he responded in a mild and appropriate way. The media then pretended that his mild, even-tempered, response was an "attack." And a lot of "conservatives" went along with that, because (a) they don't like Trump, and (b) Trump's reputation creates a confirmation bias trap for him that *most people* get caught in. Thus, you have an even-tempered response from the man being cast as an over-the-top, quintessentially Trumpian "attack"--and *you're* buying into it.

Confirmation bias. It's a thing.

Posted by: Anti Antifa at July 31, 2016 02:01 PM (yJ3fO)

441 I am really confused by the whole idea that I, or any red-blooded American male voter is going to be put off by some photos of a really, really good looking woman in various states of undress, taken as an accepted part of her employment as a model.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:59 PM (Zu3d9)

Yeah. The horror.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:02 PM (SRKgf)

442 for every Capt Kahn there is a Nidal Hassan

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 02:02 PM (zOTsN)

443 The Jersey Girls, Cindy Sheehan, and now Khizr Khan. What do these people have in common? They are people who have had relatives killed by the jihadists. And, they are all props used by the Left to criticize and silence their opponents.

The theory is that they have more moral authority than others in the public arena, at least in political matters that can be tied to their loss, so everyone else is expected to take criticism from them without responding in kind. Their argument, reduced to its purest form, is "Shut up".

Of course the #NeverTrumpers embrace the tactic. It is what they do. While preening at how conservative only they are, they embrace the tactics and rhetoric of the Left. What a surprise.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 31, 2016 02:02 PM (R+30W)

444 Sigh...this is a testy thread. I'll just watch my lousy Yanks play and watch as they sell off and restock the farm. Oh where have you gone Joe DiMaggio......

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2016 02:02 PM (Ozsfq)

445 "Trump stepped into a trap with Khan"

Yep.

There is a civilized way to make the case for limiting immigration--like now, when Trump is saying we have to limit immigration from terrorist countries.

But he didn't do it. He hugged tight Hillary's tar baby.

Posted by: PJ at July 31, 2016 02:03 PM (cHuNI)

446 434 Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 01:56 PM (0mRoj)

I am really confused by the whole idea that I, or any red-blooded American male voter is going to be put off by some photos of a really, really good looking woman in various states of undress, taken as an accepted part of her employment as a model.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 01:59 PM (Zu3d9)

I don't get it either. If they're looking for pearl-clutching, Moral Majority isn't really a thing anymore. It could be pitched at turning off women voters, though, seeking to appeal to their baser catty and covetous instincts.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 02:03 PM (0mRoj)

447 Anti,
Indeed.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 02:04 PM (C9pBZ)

448 "And, they are all props used by the Left to criticize and silence their opponents. "

Exactly

Posted by: Lauren at July 31, 2016 02:04 PM (64nOq)

449
Sigh...this is a testy thread.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2016 02:02 PM (Ozsfq)

Yes....testy....but it was quite interesting too. My mind was changed by the force of argument, and everyone played sort of nice.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 02:04 PM (Zu3d9)

450 The other strange thing is that there are people who like the idea of hitting back at these Sacred Victims Who Shall Not Be Criticized who are applauding Trump for hitting back. Which is odd, since he didn't hit back. I'm seriously wondering how many people in this threat and every other one have actually read the exchange.

Confirmation bias. It really, really, really, is a thing.

Posted by: Anti Antifa at July 31, 2016 02:04 PM (yJ3fO)

451 In response to Khan's speech, I propose that we protect all Muslims in the US from serving in the military.*

OK. What else you got?

*(Probably keep our military safer, to boot. Right, MAJ. Hasan?)

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:04 PM (SRKgf)

452 I guess this is the usual Dim shift to the right for the election.

They picked up a lot of lackwits on "our side" for TFG that way-

I suspect the same will happen with #NeverTrumps.

In this same vein, they are going hard after Melania Trump this morning with a release of total nude pictures from her modeling days:

Via Insty:

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/240136/#respond

Truly, I don't care about this at all, as had to know the Dims would do this.

And professional model? If there weren't nude pictures of her out there I'd be surprised.

Honestly, I don't know how this will shake out:

I'm all for a beautiful First Lady but I'm not voting for her at all. So, no change here.

But, on the other hand, in some weird way I think that this may be a play to get women's sexually competitive "deny the attractive bitch ahead of me" thang into play.

Like they did with Palin.

And that worked rather well, even with Republican women.

What do you guys thin?

Posted by: naturalfake at July 31, 2016 02:04 PM (0cMkb)

453 The media then pretended that his mild, even-tempered, response was an "attack." And a lot of "conservatives" went along with that, because (a) they don't like Trump, and (b) Trump's reputation creates a confirmation bias trap for him that *most people* get caught in.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at July 31, 2016 02:01 PM (yJ3fO)
----------------------------
Not to mention stupidity. Never underestimate the power of stupidity.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 31, 2016 02:05 PM (NUqwG)

454

He ain't hugging no tar baby

People see what's going on in their towns. They aren't tricked by Kahn the elder

This is a media preening event, for the media

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 02:05 PM (zOTsN)

455 I think some people are doing this wrong.

All these anguished references to "soul" in the context of a mere single vote in an election in a country unmoored from its constitution, awash in lawlessness and institutions that have lost their integrity, fiscal insanity, and disfigured by racism and tribalism (i.e. affirmative action, "diversity").

There's a non-trivial (if still small) chance that election of one candidate might lead to an improvement in some of this. There's essentially no chance that the alternative electoral outcome will lead to any improvement, and a good chance it will lead to exacerbation of all that is bad.

An easy bet in a fairly desperate situation. WTF does "soul" have to do with any of it?

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 02:06 PM (QDnY+)

456 My mind was changed by the force of argument, and everyone played sort of nice.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 02:04 PM (Zu3d9)

changed how?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2016 02:06 PM (Ozsfq)

457 I am really confused by the whole idea that I, or any red-blooded
American male voter is going to be put off by some photos of a really,
really good looking woman in various states of undress, taken as an
accepted part of her employment as a model.
---
Maybe we're supposed to be jealous. Since that's what most of the dems' Hate the Rich platform is about.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 31, 2016 02:06 PM (3Liv/)

458 This (criticizing the Muslim parents) is the stupidest thing Trump has done so far. Really really epically stupid. He just threw away 10 percentage points in the polls.

I had been feeling kind of optimistic about his chances, but after this I am starting to despair. he just can't shut his motormouth.

This was so amateurish, so juvenile, and he fell into the Democrats' trap like a blind tiger.

The best response to the attacks launched at him by surrogates like these is to ignore them.

THe WORST response is to get into a bitch-slap-fest with the surrogate. Because then you are lowering yourself.

It's a lose-lose strategy for Trump: if we loses the argument with the Muslim dad surrogate, then obviously Trump loses - -but even if Trump WINS the argument, Trump still loses, because then he's seen and picking on some random irrelevant person.

Trump needs to be focusing on Hillary, and Hillary alone.

Stop wasting time and political capital bickering with random underlings.

But apparently his ego can't control itself.

Really, really atrocious campaign strategy. Maybe the Dems have finally found his weakness: have random surrogates launch personal attacks against Trump, and wait for him to get in a tiff with them, because he can't control himself.

I predict Hillary will launch into a huge lead after this. Now Trump has a huge hill to climb back.

Posted by: zombie at July 31, 2016 02:06 PM (jBuUi)

459 //"Trump stepped into a trap with Khan"

Yep.//

The only "trap" anyone has stepped into is the confirmation bias trap that just snagged you, son. I suggest reading the actual exchange. There was no "attack" on Khan by Trump. At all or in any way.

That said, there should have been. It's about time we challenge the notion the having a dead kid allows you to enter the political arena without getting punched.

Posted by: Anti Antifa at July 31, 2016 02:07 PM (yJ3fO)

460 What do you guys thin?

I thins we needs more pictures to make a determination.

Posted by: freaked at July 31, 2016 02:07 PM (BO/km)

461 Cruz Isolated Cruz? Are you sure sweetheart? It wasn't you and the MSM jumping on Trumps bandwagon calling him a Liar, for saying "cnn announces ben carson exiting campain." which CNN did SAY!? OR DO YOU FORGET YOUR OWN FUCKING HISTORY YOU FUCKING PATHETIC SHIT!

At the convention, Cruz did not attack trump nor deny him a vote, he denied him an endorsement, because right before .. . .I believe it was OHIO, that Raphael Crus, Ted's father has been linked to the murder of JFK!? Or is that just rough house politics?

It's bully bullshit, and I would have marched across the stage at the next debate, that Trump Ran away from, because TRUMP is a pussy when it comes to actually facing an opponent, and fucked him up.

Cruz WAS! a class act, for NOT attacking Trump, when if Trump came at me like that, maybe Trump wouldn't be a bloody pulp, but his security team would have gotten a pay raise and some medical compensation.

TRUMP is a DEGENERATE STUPID FUCK! Who insults from safety, Like a bully, and WHINES from failure, Like a BITCH, and the proclaims accomplishment through destruction.

FUCK HIM and I HOPE he dies in office, but like I said, That PIECE OF SHIT YOU FUCKING FULL OF SHIT TWATS forced on me, will get my vote. . . . . This time. And know that everything for the next for years is YOUR fault.

What is the nickname for his presidential library? "O-kay? I mean, O-kay?" Real hot bed for future conventions.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 02:08 PM (92bDo)

462 #458
Hillary will probably get a temporary bump from this. Nothing more. Unfortunately, terrorists attack happen regularly, and whatever lead she has will evaporate as voters face reality.

Posted by: Mike at July 31, 2016 02:08 PM (c056A)

463 460 most intelligent thing I've read all day.

Posted by: Weasel at July 31, 2016 02:09 PM (zNvaH)

464 " Sigh...this is a testy thread."

Screw you, buddy!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 31, 2016 02:09 PM (9ym/8)

465 Stop wasting time and political capital bickering with random underlings.
Posted by: zombie at July 31, 2016 02:06 PM (jBuUi)
----------------------------
So no interviews or if interviews a lot of "no comments"s or dissembling.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 31, 2016 02:09 PM (NUqwG)

466

Zombie

Americans just love being lectured by an angry Muslim while his wife stands behind him silently

Everybody know all the Muslims in their community are assimilated war heroes.

Why this makes them want to embrace waves of Muslim refugees

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 02:09 PM (zOTsN)

467 I will not vote for this despicable phony con man. If that upsets you, I suggest you examine your own soul as to the reasons why.
Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at July 31, 2016 01:51 PM (IzBfS)

*****

I don't care if you people write in Cynthia McKinney as long as you STFU about it. The rest of us have a Witch to destroy.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 31, 2016 02:09 PM (BlaJc)

468 An easy bet in a fairly desperate situation. WTF does "soul" have to do with any of it?

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 02:06 PM (QDnY+)

Increasing the black turnout? /kidding

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:09 PM (SRKgf)

469 Greetings:

If I may, the Bronze Star is a somewhat unusual medal as it can be awarded in either "merit" or "valor" (with a 'V' device) categories. When the 'V' device is not mentioned, the "merit" category is usually assumed.

However unfortunate the younger Khan's death during his military service to his country, Papa Khan might want to explain that whole "ummah" versus "infidels" thing the next time he finds himself in front of a microphone.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 31, 2016 02:09 PM (evgyj)

470 Hillary will probably get a temporary bump from this. Nothing more. Unfortunately, terrorists attack happen regularly, and whatever lead she has will evaporate as voters face reality.

They've been crowing about Her "bump" for several days now...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 02:09 PM (O2RFr)

471 Zombie,
Until the next adherent of Mohamed goes off...

People tend to understand the obvious.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 02:10 PM (C9pBZ)

472 //This (criticizing the Muslim parents) is the stupidest thing Trump has done so far. Really really epically stupid. He just threw away 10 percentage points in the polls.//

Relax and unwad your panties. This is a media-created nontroversy. Trump did not attack the parents. (He should have, in my opinion, however.) Please go look up the actual exchange Trump had in which he allegedly attacked the parents, so you can see there was no attack.

You're snagged in a confirmation bias trap. I'm trying to get you out of it.

Posted by: Anti Antifa at July 31, 2016 02:10 PM (yJ3fO)

473

Not attacking surrogates got us President Romney

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 02:10 PM (zOTsN)

474 Not to mention stupidity. Never underestimate the power of stupidity.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 31, 2016 02:05 PM (NUqwG)

What he said.

Posted by: P.T. Barnum at July 31, 2016 02:11 PM (JO9+V)

475 yeah because Trump voted for the Iraq war....oh wait no that was Hillary I think Khan is directing his anger at the wrong person. But then again when Pat Smith said hillary lost her her son in Libya she was called a liar and attacked by the MSM no double standard here.

Posted by: unseen at July 31, 2016 02:11 PM (6ez2Z)

476 Not attacking surrogates got us President Romney

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 02:10 PM (zOTsN)

This.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:12 PM (SRKgf)

477 Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 02:08 PM (92bDo)

*****

There are many fine decaffeinated brands that are as tasty as the real thing.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 31, 2016 02:12 PM (BlaJc)

478 CBD, now that we know you can be turned by relatively civil discourse, there is every incentive to turn up the abuse and really railroad you! At your throat - or at your feet!

And as for the Melania thing, I recall that some photo of Dubya was criticized by the usual vapid sorts back during his re-election campaign. Great photo of him in front of his fighter jet, looking good and as manly as one can when, well, standing in front of the fighter jet you actually fly. Yep, THAT was surely a photo that would get him in trouble with voters (esp. women)!

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 02:12 PM (QDnY+)

479 Oh, and yes, link to said elbows please?
For a friend.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 02:12 PM (C9pBZ)

480 changed how?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2016 02:06 PM (Ozsfq)

My original stance is that Trump should have simply ignored Khan, because nothing good would come from criticism of a "grieving father of a slain hero."

But several people made cogent arguments that Khan had entered into the political sphere, and was simply a Democrat operative with a clear agenda.

This doesn't absolve Trump of his stupidity in giving an interview. He should have assumed that the worst quote would used out of context.

But his response on the website was excellent.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 02:13 PM (Zu3d9)

481 Holy shitballs, go away and come back and it turns into the Trump-Cruz Wars.

Posted by: JROD at July 31, 2016 02:13 PM (wnwJC)

482 What infuriates me about this whole thing is that the Democrats only seem to care about dead soldiers around election season.

They despise the military. When the troops serve in combat overseas, the Democratic press (but I repeat myself) do everything they can to make their jobs harder, treating THEM as the enemy.

Fuck them all.
i'M sorry. That's how I feel.

Posted by: Mike at July 31, 2016 02:13 PM (c056A)

483 461
Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 02:08 PM (92bDo)

Geez. Take a chill pill, dude.

Posted by: rickl at July 31, 2016 02:13 PM (sdi6R)

484 >>But, on the other hand, in some weird way I think that this may be a
play to get women's sexually competitive "deny the attractive bitch
ahead of me" thang into play.

It's a weird, sort of slut-shaming ploy by the Left. The conservatives are supposed to be prudes, so they're saying, "Melania should not be lauded for her success because it was based on using her sexuality!!" Reject Trump because of his slutty wife!

The feminists claim to be all for successful women and 'owning your sexuality', but they revert to form with stuff like this. They are devaluing Melania's success because it's not all from her brains like Hillary's (that's what they tell themselves - Hillary is wicked smaht). Feminism = affirmative action for ugly women.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 02:13 PM (NOIQH)

485 Trump has done nothing.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 02:13 PM (92bDo)

486 I predict Hillary will launch into a huge lead after this. Now Trump has a huge hill to climb back.
---
I'm sure that makes sense to you, but the record to date of "TRUMP IMPLODES" effects on his poll numbers suggests another outcome.

I think you'll find mohammadans aren't nearly as sympathetic figures as you think.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 31, 2016 02:13 PM (3Liv/)

487 You don't know my legacy do you Rickl?

I am LEGEND.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 02:14 PM (92bDo)

488 Off topic kinda But funny. I just finished watching the first season of Boardwalk Empire, which is mostly political IMO.

The frequency and quantity of the word CONCERN made me laugh when I probably should not have been laughing during the show.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 02:14 PM (a94gW)

489 Not attacking surrogates got us President Romney
Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 02:10 PM (zOTsN)

Yup...exactly right! Attack, attack, attack and when you can't figure on what to do next, attack!

Enough of the "nice" guy BS.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 31, 2016 02:15 PM (ej1L0)

490
My original stance is that Trump should have simply ignored Khan, because nothing good would come from criticism of a "grieving father of a slain hero."

But several people made cogent arguments that Khan had entered into the political sphere, and was simply a Democrat operative with a clear agenda.

This doesn't absolve Trump of his stupidity in giving an interview. He should have assumed that the worst quote would used out of context.

But his response on the website was excellent.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 02:13 PM (Zu3d9)

It's a little of both. I think since the father was obviously being political it was legit to respond to him. I don't think comparing scrafices was a great idea, but yes the recent website response was good. And anyway it's a nothing bump in the road. I am waiting for the next wikileaks drop and the next Yankee trade

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2016 02:15 PM (Ozsfq)

491 there is every incentive to turn up the abuse and really railroad you!

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 02:12 PM (QDnY+)

I expect nothing less!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 31, 2016 02:16 PM (Zu3d9)

492 Hmm. Did some comments just vaporize?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 02:16 PM (C9pBZ)

493 "I prefer soldiers who didn't get blown up."

In hard times a mother will tell her son to come back with his shield or upon it. We are quite pampered and wealthy. Lets pray we always are and can always afford to suffer a McCain Or Obama.

Posted by: Ok at July 31, 2016 02:16 PM (CRXed)

494 Well, that was fun.

Went to the noo yawk post so's to get a peek at Melania.

Much more than a peek.

I'm not going to try to assign motive to why they did it (I think I know), but if I were Trump and the issue ever comes up, I know how I'd respond.

Hey guys, she looks better in real life, and gets better every day!
Or sumpin like that.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 31, 2016 02:16 PM (kKHcp)

495 I'm writing in Wickedpinto for president.

Posted by: JROD at July 31, 2016 02:16 PM (wnwJC)

496 "Not attacking surrogates got us President Romney"

Yep.

Frankly, after decades of "this isn't the battle to fight" whenever a confrontation occurred, I'd rather have someone who'll fight all the battles. That way I know they won't let an important one slide.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 02:16 PM (fVubI)

497 I think WickedPinto should be invited to the CenTexMoMee if it happens.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 31, 2016 02:17 PM (Idu2i)

498 Relax and unwad your panties. This is a media-created nontroversy. Trump did not attack the parents. (He should have, in my opinion, however.) Please go look up the actual exchange Trump had in which he allegedly attacked the parents, so you can see there was no attack.

You're snagged in a confirmation bias trap. I'm trying to get you out of it.
Posted by: Anti Antifa at July 31, 2016 02:10 PM (yJ3fO)

473

Not attacking surrogates got us President Romney
Posted by: ThunderB

I understand fully that the media grossly misrepresents what Trump says. All I;m saying is that he should not give them ammunition or even the opportunity to do so.

Trump coud have crushed the narrative if, after the father's rant, he INSTEAD said "If only more Muslims were like this guy's fallen son. I salute his bravery!" and just totally ignored the personal attacks by the father. Respond irrationally with love and hugs. It would have totally disarmed the Democrats and flipped the narrative. Trump would be the one getting bounce out of the Dem convention.

Sometimes Trump thinks strategically. Other times, his ego gets int he way and he blunders.

Posted by: zombie at July 31, 2016 02:17 PM (jBuUi)

499 zombie, I think you forgot the sarc tag.

Hard to see this "story" being in play even 5 days from now.

And we're still weeks away from the storied "time when most voters start to pay attention".

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 02:18 PM (QDnY+)

500 Pics of Melania are to keep LIV women in Hillary's camp. They'll either be jealous or decide it says something bad about Trump.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 02:18 PM (fVubI)

501 Wicked Pinto

You need to pace yourself,

Lotta a days between now and the election

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 02:18 PM (zOTsN)

502 489
Yup...exactly right! Attack, attack, attack and when you can't figure on what to do next, attack!

Enough of the "nice" guy BS.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 31, 2016 02:15 PM (ej1L0)

Yep. This, this, this, and this.

Posted by: rickl at July 31, 2016 02:18 PM (sdi6R)

503 Hey gang, I'm here for the Trump thread.

*pulls out Trump-corn and Trump Soda*

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at July 31, 2016 02:19 PM (RRLg9)

504 Melania pics are for the Bernie Bros

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 02:19 PM (zOTsN)

505 Fuck Khan in the face with a fist.
Clear enough?

Posted by: Hot Dry Anger at July 31, 2016 02:19 PM (c7pBL)

506 the guy with the most surrogates during the PRIMARY is Trump. He owned the media. The same way McCain "owned" the media, when his enemy is republicans and Some good republican bashing is all about it, and don't forget that the press, and the establishment republicans were Trumps surrogates.

So you want to attack the false flags for dirty politics, by calling Ted a Liar, every time you say his name. He was quoting CNN, and then CNN acted as a surrogate, and then defamed cruz, and so did the rest of the media and the republican establishment.

There are so many surrogates on the side of the Trump primary supporters, that you should be awash in bastard babies.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 02:19 PM (92bDo)

507 Zombie are you just going by what is in this post or did you watch the interview or read the full transcript?

Posted by: Buzzion at July 31, 2016 02:19 PM (bMG0w)

508 >>This (criticizing the Muslim parents) is the stupidest thing Trump has
done so far. Really really epically stupid. He just threw away 10
percentage points in the polls./

Maybe a year ago.

Not now, not when we have weekly, sometimes daily reminders here and in Europe that muslim immigrants, regardless of how recent they or they family immigrated, are at war with us.

Not after we've had numerous post-terror attack lectures from Obama scolding us for noticing the Islam connection.

Khan's son assimilated and served his country.
And for every one like him we have an immigrant's son in San Bernardino, Orlando, Chattanooga, Merced who didn't.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 02:19 PM (NOIQH)

509 But, on the other hand, in some weird way I think that this may be a play to get women's sexually competitive "deny the attractive bitch ahead of me" thang into play.

Like they did with Palin.

And that worked rather well, even with Republican women.

What do you guys thin?
Posted by: naturalfake at July 31, 2016 02:04 PM (0cMkb)
---
The bitchiest anti-Palin shrieking I heard was from guys, as have been the "trophy wife" comments.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 31, 2016 02:20 PM (jR7Wy)

510 "All I;m saying is that he should not give them ammunition or even the opportunity to do so. "

He'd have to play Hillary and refuse to deal with the press in any but the most controlled circumstances to do that. He can assume they have their cameras and mics going from the moment he enters their building until he leaves.

Honestly, if he stopped in the restroom at a "news" organization and had a particular difficult bowel movement, the next day the press would be playing the recording as proof of something or other.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 02:20 PM (fVubI)

511 503,
Sounds delicious. And huuuuuge.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 02:20 PM (C9pBZ)

512 This is two bald men fighting over a comb, zombie, but no, the best response would have been to ask why Khan supported a candidate and party that are shredding the constitution - and then to add that while he was building resorts at the time, his opponent was in the Senate, and followed that up by squandering his son's sacrifice while SoS.

But those are the sort of substantive responses Teh Donald is not given to. So there we are.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 02:20 PM (QDnY+)

513 Yup...exactly right! Attack, attack, attack and when you can't figure on what to do next, attack!

Enough of the "nice" guy BS.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 31, 2016 02:15 PM (ej1L0)

Sonuva bitch read my book!!

Posted by: Zombie Gen Patton at July 31, 2016 02:21 PM (JO9+V)

514 Oops that Kahn speech may have backfired on the dems.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/j8lbwyn

$1 pocket US Constitution becomes Amazon bestseller after Khizr Khan

Posted by: Willy J. at July 31, 2016 02:21 PM (BZey7)

515 "The bitchiest anti-Palin shrieking I heard was from guys, as have been the "trophy wife" comments."

Exact opposite for me. A woman whose intelligence I deeply respect fell for the "Palin's Banned Books" scam.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 02:21 PM (fVubI)

516 Hard to see this "story" being in play even 5 days from now.
---
5 days from now we'll be counting down the hours to the olympic opening ceremonies.

Good bet Putin will be up to something like the last couple of games, particularly if he's moody about the lack of Russian representation.

Certain bet some mohammadans will go explodey by then.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 31, 2016 02:22 PM (3Liv/)

517 OLYMPICS DIRTY BOMB FEARS UN atomic agency helping guard Rio Olympics from ISIS terror attack
State-of-the-art scanners will monitor the city for tell-tale traces of radiation

LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2016 02:22 PM (Ozsfq)

518 Also on that point, have their been any updates on the situation in Incirlik?

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 31, 2016 02:22 PM (3Liv/)

519 Hey CBD wanna go to a funeral...urh I mean a Yankee game one of these days? I hear it easy to find parking now a days

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2016 02:23 PM (Ozsfq)

520 488 Off topic kinda But funny. I just finished watching the first season of Boardwalk Empire, which is mostly political IMO.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 02:14 PM (a94gW)

The funny part: the producers found a Republican political machine. Now that took some doing.

And they remind viewers of that fact about every five minutes.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:23 PM (SRKgf)

521 "Sonuva bitch read my book!!
Posted by: Zombie Gen Patton "

George, we could use a man like you right now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 31, 2016 02:23 PM (9ym/8)

522 NGU, to recycle a classic, "if a dirty bomb goes off in Rio, how will they be able to tell?"

Though Rio, last time I spent time there (80s), was not very dirty. Not as clean as some southern cities like Curitiba or Florianopolis, but not bad.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 02:24 PM (QDnY+)

523 Also on that point, have their been any updates on the situation in Incirlik?
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 31, 2016 02:22 PM (3Liv/)

Yes, the fuckin turkish bastards have lifted all restrictions on the Base as far as the Americans are concerned.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2016 02:24 PM (Ozsfq)

524 "if a dirty bomb goes off in Rio, how will they be able to tell?"

Bob Costas will get red body instead of red eye?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2016 02:25 PM (Ozsfq)

525 They have armed soldier on French beaches today to deal with Islamic terror

Posted by: Jake at July 31, 2016 02:26 PM (wcGos)

526 ANYONE can win against hillary buy liscensing "13 hours" and editing in frames.

EVERY TIME there is inaction,or a denial of action or a threat against action or a condescension of action, because that movie demonstrates how little the "proffessionals" think of the "contractors."

EVERY TIME, insert a half second frame cap saying "Hillary Clinton could have said yes."

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 02:26 PM (92bDo)

527 "if a dirty bomb goes off in Rio, how will they be able to tell?"

By the millions of dollars it'll do in property improvements.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 31, 2016 02:26 PM (T/cxb)

528 by the way the dems and the left went after the mom's from benghazi with a buzz saw and I did not hear a peep from the MSM or the left.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2016 02:26 PM (Ozsfq)

529 Has our stalwart CinC said anything about Incirlik? I'm reading that he's been briefed in between putts, but any statements?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 31, 2016 02:27 PM (jR7Wy)

530 This may be tangential, but I can no longer in good conscience recommend military service to young people. I used to believe the military could be a great career choice for many people.

I no longer believe that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 31, 2016 02:27 PM (97XyN)

531 Zombie, even if Trump had said that he was building a shrine to this fallen hero, the media would spin it to make it look like he was Bill Ayers.

What he said wasn't even disrespectful. He didn't say he'd made MORE sacrifices than Mr. Kahn.

By the way, what sacrifices has Hillary made for anyone, besides Hillary Clinton? Isn't that like the witch calling the kettle black.

Posted by: Mike at July 31, 2016 02:27 PM (c056A)

532 507 Zombie are you just going by what is in this post or did you watch the interview or read the full transcript?

Posted by: Buzzion

I'm going by the general media zeitgeist at every media outlet overall. I think the typical headline said "Nationwide Fury at Trump's Cowardly Chickenhawk Insult of War Hero's Mother."

No one but the political addicts read anything but the headlines.

I agree that this will fade, but it is an unnecessary bump in the road, when Trump could have easily jiu-jjitsued the situation to his immense benefit.

Posted by: zombie at July 31, 2016 02:27 PM (jBuUi)

533 499 zombie, I think you forgot the sarc tag.

Hard to see this "story" being in play even 5 days from now.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 02:18 PM (QDnY+)

This. And after tomorrow's terrorist atrocity, the Democrats will bury Khan's speech deeper than whale shit.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:27 PM (SRKgf)

534 Melania pics are for closers.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 31, 2016 02:27 PM (S6Pax)

535 the guy with the most surrogates during the PRIMARY is Trump. He owned the media. The same way McCain "owned" the media
---
Dude, did you even watch the media coverage of Trump? Aside from Lou Dobbs, every bit of it was done in an attempt to make a joke of his campaign. Every position he took (even when they seemed to contradict) was treated as completely unthinkable so-how-dare-anyone-vote-for-him?

They didn't support him, they tried to destroy him, constantly, for the entire campaign and failed gloriously. It worked to Trump's advantage because pretty much everyone hates the media, but that wasn't their intent.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 31, 2016 02:27 PM (3Liv/)

536 #peakTrump

Again. After years of saying it. For reals this time, guys.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at July 31, 2016 02:27 PM (0mRoj)

537 'George, we could use a man like you right now.'

Yes but he wouldn't last five minutes. Once he figured out what transgendered meant he probably have a stroke.

Posted by: freaked at July 31, 2016 02:29 PM (BO/km)

538 The # 1 tending story is Khans wife's op-ed.....

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 02:29 PM (O2RFr)

539 528 by the way the dems and the left went after the mom's from benghazi with a buzz saw and I did not hear a peep from the MSM or the left.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2016 02:26 PM (Ozsfq)

Hillary told Chris Wallace that she is not going to hold a grudge against Sean Smith's mom for not remembering correctly what Hillary said to her at Dover AFB.

What a fine, magnanimous woman!

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at July 31, 2016 02:29 PM (5xDis)

540 Speaking of Turkey, there's a tedious commenter who needs to get back in here and guide us as to NATO's future.

Apparently a candidate made some taboo but obviously correct and mundane (and hoary) comments about NATO, which has imperiled the alliance.

Meanwhile, the largest member state has lashed its economy to Russian gas (and French nukes), made a reasonable attempt to detonate what passes for its civic culture by importing zillions of unskilled unassimilable unaccompanied furriners, and has less military capability (or will) than a mid-size US city's police dept.

And the second largest military in the alliance is now run by a caliph who alternates between shooting down Russian planes and groveling before the Kremlin.

But it's a US candidate's mundane comments that are a "threat" to NATO.

Good times!

Posted by: rhomboid at July 31, 2016 02:29 PM (QDnY+)

541 Pope Francis encouraged hundreds of thousands of young people at a global gathering of the faithful Sunday to believe in a new humanity that is stronger than evil and refuses to see borders as barriers.

A new humanity that burns and drowns people in cages or throws gays off buildings? And get out of your bullet proof pope mobile and tear down the vatican walls and then get back to me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 31, 2016 02:30 PM (Ozsfq)

542 I'm going by the general media zeitgeist at every media outlet overall. I think the typical headline said "Nationwide Fury at Trump's Cowardly Chickenhawk Insult of War Hero's Mother."

Posted by: zombie at July 31, 2016 02:27 PM (jBuUi)

MSM list of optional headlines, depending on what Trump does:

1. "Nationwide Fury at Trump's Cowardly Chickenhawk Insult of War Hero's Mother."

2. "Nationwide Fury at Trump's Cowardly Refusal to Address War Hero's Mother."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:30 PM (SRKgf)

543 Wrote in the book thread ( but not the proper place but it is newsworthy) that Bernie Ecclestone's (Formula one Supremo)mother in Brazil was kidnapped and the criminals are requesting a very large payment.

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2016 02:30 PM (bksJQ)

544
As I live and breathe.

Wicked Pinto.

How you been, sir?

Posted by: irongrampa at July 31, 2016 02:30 PM (X35Yt)

545 515
A woman whose intelligence I deeply respect fell for the "Palin's Banned Books" scam.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 31, 2016 02:21 PM (fVubI)

Back in 2008, I spoke to a female friend. I said, "So what do you think of Palin?'

If looks could kill, I would not be making this comment now. Seriously, I was not prepared for that response, and for a minute there I feared she would actually assault me. She had pure rage in her eyes.

Posted by: rickl at July 31, 2016 02:30 PM (sdi6R)

546 In the same way that in-the-tank Trumpkins manufacture supporting arguments to fill in the gaps and undergird Trump's statements as strategic and deliberate, in-the-tank NeverTrumpers manufacture context, intent, and outright fabricate what he said and to whom in order to make him out to be as despicable as he is in their heads.

What was despicable about what he said? What he said about his wife? Because islam needs to be called out on the tiles daily.

Was it about what he said about his son? Because he never defamed his son.

NeverTrumpers don't care about the Khans, this is just the newest thing to vent their spleen about.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at July 31, 2016 02:30 PM (RRLg9)

547 OLYMPICS DIRTY BOMB FEARS UN atomic agency helping guard Rio Olympics from ISIS terror attack

State-of-the-art scanners will monitor the city for tell-tale traces of radiation

LMAO
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Never fear! The UN is hear!

Just keep your children away from the UN inspectors.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 31, 2016 02:31 PM (S6Pax)

548 MisHum warned me on the sidebar but did I Listen? Noooooooooo.
Anyone have any mind bleach to spare?

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2016 02:32 PM (bksJQ)

549 Back in 2008, I spoke to a female friend. I said, "So what do you think of Palin?'

If looks could kill, I would not be making this comment now. Seriously, I was not prepared for that response, and for a minute there I feared she would actually assault me. She had pure rage in her eyes.
Posted by: rickl at July 31, 2016 02:30 PM (sdi6R)

I think this is consistent with the discussion about Melania above. It's all about jealousy. When women get jealous they hate the object of their jealousy.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 02:32 PM (0mRoj)

550 Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at July 31, 2016 02:30 PM (RRLg9)

Quit spinning for Trump. He fucked up. He needs to quit fucking up and pick his targets better .

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 31, 2016 02:33 PM (MNgU2)

551 Back in 2008, I spoke to a female friend. I said, "So what do you think of Palin?'

If looks could kill, I would not be making this comment now. Seriously, I was not prepared for that response, and for a minute there I feared she would actually assault me. She had pure rage in her eyes.

Posted by: rickl at July 31, 2016 02:30 PM (sdi6R)

Shoulda told her Palin's kids are brighter, better looking, and more popular than hers.

Might as well shoot the moon, I say.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:33 PM (SRKgf)

552 The # 1 tending story is Khans wife's op-ed.....

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 02:29 PM (O2RFr)

Just a coincidence I'm sure.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 31, 2016 02:33 PM (Idu2i)

553 nekked pics of Melenia in new York post

Posted by: Jake at July 31, 2016 02:33 PM (wcGos)

554 535

They
didn't support him, they tried to destroy him, constantly, for the
entire campaign and failed gloriously. It worked to Trump's advantage
because pretty much everyone hates the media, but that wasn't their
intent.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apperently nonvoting democrat at July 31, 2016 02:27 PM (3Liv/)

Nothing ever changes in moronland, and all the old arguments and tactics still work. This place is that old chest freezer out in the garage you bought, but eventually quit using. It's been frozen in ice since 2000.

Posted by: DFCtomm at July 31, 2016 02:34 PM (LzDgA)

555 Shoulda told her Palin's kids are brighter, better looking, and more popular than hers.

and she gets more sex than you would if you were twins ..

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at July 31, 2016 02:34 PM (rwI+c)

556 The # 1 tending story is Khans wife's op-ed.....

Posted by: donna

She can write?

Pretty heretical right there.

I see "Muslim" women driving all the time in Columbus. You can tell because of the full hijab they wear.

I wonder if that messes with their peripheral vision?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 31, 2016 02:34 PM (S6Pax)

557 543,
So, didn't you HEAR WHAT TRUMP DID/SAID/DIDN'T SPEAK OUT AGAINST?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 02:34 PM (C9pBZ)

558 552 The # 1 tending story is Khans wife's op-ed.....
Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 02:29 PM (O2RFr)
Just a coincidence I'm sure.
Posted by: Country Boy at July 31, 2016 02:33 PM (Idu2i)

It was probably trending even before it was published.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:34 PM (SRKgf)

559 530
This may be tangential, but I can no longer in good conscience recommend
military service to young people. I used to believe the military could
be a great career choice for many people.

I no longer believe that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud,

I am Marine to my core, bash anything about me, other than my family and my nature of service. Honor is the only think I truly keep for myself and to attack that is to earn an enemy for life. I am Marine To MY CORE. I will never bash The Corps or other service, I might attack actions by individuals, but I will always praise the service.

And Sadly Cloyd? I agree.

When asked "why didn't you stay." I will tell the truth, I was an angry young man in a bad situation, though not staying is the greatest regret of my life.

But now? "Should I join?" I cannot say yes, in fact, I would actively say no. Because the people I Might have said yes to would server a greater purpose by taking pride in building widgets, than supporting the SJW BS of the Dems, or the the Tormet of a chaotic Trump.

I would say "No, but you deserve to be."

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 02:35 PM (92bDo)

560 >>This. And after tomorrow's terrorist atrocity, the Democrats will bury Khan's speech deeper than whale shit.

Exactly.

*I am really worried about the Rio Olympics - not very confident it is being managed in a way that they could ID and prevent a terror attack.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 02:35 PM (NOIQH)

561 It's not jealousy. Women want to be invited to the lunch table. They are social, They want to be included. Social signals are important. They want to believe as they perceive other women in their cohort beleive So if the cohort is anti Palin, they are anti Palin. If the cohort is pro Hilary, the are pro Hillary

Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 02:35 PM (zOTsN)

562 State-of-the-art scanners will monitor the city for tell-tale traces of radiation
///
Well there are a lot of surplus coal mine canaries available under Obama.

Posted by: Willy J. at July 31, 2016 02:36 PM (BZey7)

563 Nothing ever changes in moronland, and all the old
arguments and tactics still work. This place is that old chest freezer
out in the garage you bought, but eventually quit using. It's been
frozen in ice since 2000.

Posted by: DFCtomm at July 31, 2016 02:34 PM (LzDgA)

Yo

Posted by: Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer at July 31, 2016 02:36 PM (mkppl)

564 I see "Muslim" women driving all the time in Columbus. You can tell because of the full hijab they wear.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 31, 2016 02:34 PM (S6Pax)

Based on my observations, you should put the scare quotes around the word "driving".

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 31, 2016 02:37 PM (kKHcp)

565 *I am really worried about the Rio Olympics - not very confident it is being managed in a way that they could ID and prevent a terror attack.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 02:35 PM (NOIQH)

Gee, what makes you think it's not well-run? Apart from ... everything about it so far?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:37 PM (SRKgf)

566 I'd point out that Trump was the target of a bonafide assassination attempt so yes, sacrificing currently , with his life.

Suck it nevertrumpers.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at July 31, 2016 02:37 PM (BS8yt)

567 Quit spinning for Trump. He fucked up. He needs to quit fucking up and pick his targets better .
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 31, 2016 02:33 PM (MNgU2)

***

Bullshit. He did nothing wrong. You are easily lead into a Media nontroversy by how much you despise Trump.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 31, 2016 02:38 PM (BlaJc)

568 Oh oh. I make joke about asian women drivers.
Now you'll think I'm John Rocker and run me outta here.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 31, 2016 02:38 PM (kKHcp)

569 551
Shoulda told her Palin's kids are brighter, better looking, and more popular than hers.

Might as well shoot the moon, I say.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:33 PM (SRKgf)

Honestly, I wouldn't have gotten a stronger response if I had called her a cvnt right to her face. Taken aback, I was.

Posted by: rickl at July 31, 2016 02:38 PM (sdi6R)

570 Based on my observations, you should put the scare quotes around the word "driving".

Posted by: OneEyedJack

Always in the right lane, going around 60 mph

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 31, 2016 02:39 PM (S6Pax)

571 Nope, no one is above reproach because of some special victim status given to them.

The argument must stand on its own merits, and this guy was full of it.

Posted by: Sjg at July 31, 2016 02:39 PM (gDSJf)

572 My hatred of trump is pretty universal, don't bother pigeonholing me. I fill those pigeon holes, like Bill Clinton does interns.

But I have no choice but to vote for him in the hope he DOESN'T destroy the world as bad as hillary will.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 02:39 PM (92bDo)

573
Brave people rescue woman from car in flood:

http://goo.gl/zE91BU

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 31, 2016 02:39 PM (iQIUe)

574 561 It's not jealousy. Women want to be invited to the lunch table. They are social, They want to be included. Social signals are important. They want to believe as they perceive other women in their cohort beleive So if the cohort is anti Palin, they are anti Palin. If the cohort is pro Hilary, the are pro Hillary
Posted by: ThunderB at July 31, 2016 02:35 PM (zOTsN)

Exactly the source of my qualms re the 19th Amendment: they're so easily stampeded by social signals. Put a bell on the doyenne, and most of the rest will follow her around.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:39 PM (SRKgf)

575 1) My son died in Iraq.
2) ??????
3) Trump hasn't read the constitution!

Is this insensitive? Yes. I have no plans to stop being insensitive to the manipulative.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 31, 2016 02:40 PM (VdICR)

576 550 Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 31, 2016 02:33 PM (MNgU2)

Trump didn't fuck up, Trump is the first pol to get this right.

The GOP gains nothing from allowing the media to attack them with the Cindy Sheehans of the world.

If people were trying to infest this nation with the cockroaches obliterating EUtopia right now they would not be doing as bang up a job as the people who immediately genuflect to the Donks latest "victim of the week."

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 02:40 PM (SzZnW)

577 "Quit spinning for Trump. He fucked up. He needs to quit fucking up and pick his targets better ."

I would agree on this.

Otherwise we will have the most radical progressive of our lifetime's, who will make Obama look like a picker running the show.

That will mean more forgotten people driven into poverty, more BS narratives when she gets our people killed overseas. More of everything that is the suck over the last 8 years only magnified by 10.

Posted by: Drider at July 31, 2016 02:40 PM (6Xbsz)

578 572 Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 02:39 PM (92bDo)

Yup the choice is not between "Good" and "bad" it is between arsenic and zyklon b.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 02:41 PM (SzZnW)

579 Just began season 2 of Boardwalk Empire and 20 minutes in everybody is CONCERNED.

This show is making gangsters appear to be pearl clutchers.
LOL.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 02:42 PM (a94gW)

580 If people were trying to infest this nation with the
cockroaches obliterating EUtopia right now they would not be doing as
bang up a job as the people who immediately genuflect to the Donks
latest "victim of the week."

Posted by: sven10077

The Democrats featured plenty of "victims" at their convention.

Be a victim, vote Democrat.

And Hillary, she's the biggest victim in America. Why don't you people like her more?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at July 31, 2016 02:42 PM (S6Pax)

581 560 Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 02:35 PM (NOIQH)

That's overall a net good in the war on radical Islam....

if/when Jihadi Jim goes nuts in Rio it will force the world to see.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 02:42 PM (SzZnW)

582 And then the guy went on to say some really stupid stuff such as "terror hasn't anything to do with Islam".

Hope your sense of righteousness is ready for 4 years of Hillary.

No matter where or how his son got killed, the bottom line is he's using that death to promote a liar and a fraud and someone who will take your freedoms away in a heart beat and put this country in the toilet for another generation.

Someone losing a son or daughter doesn't give them some sort of permanent cover from being stupid or promoting evil.

In fact the majority of Islam promotes evil and dead son or no dead son the guy is a believer of a death cult that seeks to wipe ME from the earth for no more reason than I don't believe as he does.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 31, 2016 02:44 PM (ECJ+C)

583 Well, if the their son rejected political Islam, and it's notion of an Ummah; a nation state consisting of all Muslims no matter what nation they reside in, with its own soldiers/jihadists, then good for him. It seems he did reject that. But, what does that have to do with letting in possibly millions of unvettable 'refugee' Muslims, consisting mostly of military age males, and putting all American citizens at risk of terror attacks and a culture of sexual molestation of unveiled women? Sorry, not going to be guilted into submission and or shamed into not seeing the quite obvious fruits of what mass Islamic immigration brings.

Posted by: Stephanie at July 31, 2016 02:45 PM (eLvFT)

584
Have we turned this into a gun thread yet?

Bought a Kahr CW9 at the gun show today.

*Cur does happy dance*

Now I need to get a proper IWB holster...... and a couple of extra mags..... and probably some other shit I can't remember right now.......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 31, 2016 02:45 PM (LuZz8)

585 Well We pretty much beat this subject to death.... I'll wait to see what the next disaster will be because You know it's coming...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 02:46 PM (O2RFr)

586 Yup the choice is not between "Good" and "bad" it is between arsenic and zyklon b.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 02:41 PM (SzZnW)

More between zyklon b (Hillary!) and mystery bottle (Trump.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 31, 2016 02:46 PM (3ZoRf)

587 584
Have we turned this into a gun thread yet?

Bought a Kahr CW9 at the gun show today.

*Cur does happy dance*

Now I need to get a proper IWB holster...... and a couple of extra mags..... and probably some other shit I can't remember right now.......
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 31, 2016 02:45 PM (LuZz

Ammunition might be helpful.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 02:46 PM (0mRoj)

588 I just noticed the father stated that terror has nothing to do with Islam.

Welp, there goes the compassion that I had for him and his family.
He is now lodged firmly in the Fuck you crack.

Posted by: Drider at July 31, 2016 02:47 PM (6Xbsz)

589 Quit spinning for Trump. He fucked up. He needs to quit fucking up and pick his targets better .
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 31, 2016 02:33 PM (MNgU2)

According to who, other than Vox and the eeyore brigade here at impotent rage headquarters?

Dems get a muslim couple who lost their servicemember son onstage to trash the candidate for criticizing islam and recommending steps to prevent terrorism and you carry the ball an extra 25 yards for them. Humayun Khan's faith had zero to do with his sacrifice, his service is what should be venerated, and Trump never criticized him.

You say it was an error for him to ask to hear his wife say something because you don't have the guts to spit in the face of the PC police and demand accountability for Islam's subjugation of women. Trump does.

I didn't hear you say a word when a journalist said he'd like to beat Pat Smith to death for speaking at the RNC.

Just go vote dem.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at July 31, 2016 02:47 PM (RRLg9)

590
We are a family with a tradition of military service dating back to the Revolutionary War.

We encompass all the branches, and service ranges from one and done to a career.

I tell the ones who are current to be aware of conditions,but stay the course and realize when this all shakes out we need some competent ones to administer, lest we fall right back into the same shit.

And express my pride in those whos3erve and have served with honor.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 31, 2016 02:47 PM (X35Yt)

591 Trump starts to lose a little traction in the polls and the handwringing begins anew. Slow couple of weeks for the terrorists.

Next weeks terror attack should unite us again against the common enemy. If not that one, the one after that, or the one after that, or the one after that...

Posted by: free range sort of conservative at July 31, 2016 02:47 PM (ZnIt3)

592 I hope everyone one of you that voted for Trump over all the other good candidates are really happy with yourselves...

Posted by: rexbatt at July 31, 2016 02:49 PM (woA40)

593 Bitter Clinger and All That at July 31, 2016 02:44 PM (ECJ+C)

Don't disagree with any of that. That could have been the response from Trump's team instead of Trump directly insulting the Khan's by inferring Mrs Khan kept her mouth shut under threat of violence. Who in gods green earth thinks that was a smart retort?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 31, 2016 02:49 PM (MNgU2)

594 585,
"Trump released nude pics in hateful attempt to body shame super beautiful michelle obama"

It's trending tomorrow!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 02:50 PM (C9pBZ)

595 591 Trump starts to lose a little traction in the polls and the handwringing begins anew. Slow couple of weeks for the terrorists.

Did He really or did they bump up His numbers before the Dem convention so that they could bring them down to show Hillary's Convention bump up?

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 02:50 PM (O2RFr)

596 "I hope everyone one of you that voted for Trump over all the other good candidates are really happy with yourselves..."

I could not be more satisfied. He needs to take a break from Twitter for sure but he will be a fantastic POTUS.

Posted by: Drider at July 31, 2016 02:50 PM (6Xbsz)

597 #284

Utter bullshit. We don't have any conscripted troops and haven't for decades. Joining the military means you are taking on the potential for great risk to life and limb. The US has never been in the practice of treating troops as cannon fodder but losses cannot be avoided. Even the training often presents a substantial risk.

When did Kate Steinle signup to be under fire for the sake of cheap labor and leftist politicians seeking to tilt the demography in their favor?

Posted by: Epobirs at July 31, 2016 02:51 PM (IdCqF)

598 596 "I hope everyone one of you that voted for Trump over all the other good candidates are really happy with yourselves..."

He may bean ass clown but He's Our ass clown...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 02:52 PM (O2RFr)

599
I hope everyone one of you that voted for Trump over all the other good candidates are really happy with yourselves...

Posted by: rexbatt at July 31, 2016 02:49 PM (woA40)

I am! *sticks out tongue*

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 31, 2016 02:52 PM (JO9+V)

600 if/when Jihadi Jim goes nuts in Rio it will force the world to see.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 02:42 PM (SzZnW)

I think the violent wing of the progressive scum (BLM, violent Muzzies in the US & overseas) have been given orders to tone it back between now and the election.

Anything to help their allies in the Democratic party.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 31, 2016 02:52 PM (Idu2i)

601 I hope everyone one of you that voted for Trump over all the other good candidates are really happy with yourselves...
Posted by: rexbatt at July 31, 2016 02:49 PM (woA40)

*****

You may thank those clueless fucks at the GOP for creating Trump, not us.

Cruz ran a terrible campaign. You may also thank him for Trump.

GFY if you wanna blame any of us.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 31, 2016 02:52 PM (BlaJc)

602 All the pundits, left and right (or at least at NRO), have been telling us how splendid the DNC was how shabby the RNC was. But Hillary doesn't seem to be bouncing. Could it be that average Americans are not falling for scripted schtick from gays, lesbians, mothers of thugs, pop stars, smug purveyors of politicized science, abortion advocates and--yes--angry Muslim dads? I feel badly for Khizr Khan, but that doesn't mean we should bow down to him and embrace immigration policies that will lead to terrorists attacks on our citizens. His son's sacrifice does not justify the continuing sacrifice of American lives.

Posted by: Caliban at July 31, 2016 02:52 PM (3GFMN)

603
Ammunition might be helpful.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 02:46 PM (0mRoj)

SHIT. I knew I was forgetting something.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 31, 2016 02:52 PM (LuZz8)

604
I think the violent wing of the progressive scum (BLM, violent Muzzies in the US & overseas) have been given orders to tone it back between now and the election.

It would be a smart move, but over all they're not too smart...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 02:53 PM (O2RFr)

605 592 I hope everyone one of you that voted for Trump over all the other good candidates are really happy with yourselves...
Posted by: rexbatt at July 31, 2016 02:49 PM (woA40)

I am. Trump is the best candidate there is this time around.

Posted by: rickl at July 31, 2016 02:53 PM (sdi6R)

606 Bullshit, Khan is politicizing his son's death and carried on today repeating the terrorists have nothing to do with Islam line on the news shows. He opened himself up to this no matter how anyone feels about his loss. Again, the media isn't giving the Benghazi parents the smallest benefit of a doubt.

Posted by: Patrick Henry at July 31, 2016 02:54 PM (sL8bQ)

607
Another big So Fucking What brought to you by the Big Lie party and their media.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at July 31, 2016 02:54 PM (sIqxP)

608 What happened in France? -referenced above. I can't find anything but muslims attending Catholic masses in show of solidarity. Sadly my cynicism is so high that I wonder who they were showing solidarity with and if this was compassion or a show of strength. .

Posted by: PaleRider at July 31, 2016 02:54 PM (Jen0I)

609 I think the violent wing of the progressive scum (BLM, violent Muzzies in the US & overseas) have been given orders to tone it back between now and the election.

It would be a smart move, but over all they're not too smart...

Posted by: donna at July 31, 2016 02:53 PM (O2RFr)

Yep. And they're not exactly the most disciplined of outfits.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:55 PM (SRKgf)

610
A muslim lecturing someone on the Constitution! It is to laugh.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at July 31, 2016 02:55 PM (sIqxP)

611 600 Posted by: Country Boy at July 31, 2016 02:52 PM (Idu2i)

If the Democrat party can order Jihadi Jim to tone down his violence there needs to be a civil war.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 02:56 PM (SzZnW)

612 608 What happened in France? -referenced above. I can't find anything but muslims attending Catholic masses in show of solidarity. Sadly my cynicism is so high that I wonder who they were showing solidarity with and if this was compassion or a show of strength. .
Posted by: PaleRider at July 31, 2016 02:54 PM (Jen0I)

Or reconnoitering.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 31, 2016 02:56 PM (SRKgf)

613 Congrats, Cur! I have a buddy with a Kahr CW9 and he loves it.

Posted by: Weasel at July 31, 2016 02:56 PM (zNvaH)

614 "Bullshit, Khan is politicizing his son's death and carried on today repeating the terrorists have nothing to do with Islam line on the news shows. He opened himself up to this no matter how anyone feels about his loss. Again, the media isn't giving the Benghazi parents the smallest benefit of a doubt."

He absolutely did. I feel for any family who has lost family members in battle.

BUT

When he started down the road of the BS narrative of terrorism having nothing to do with Islam which is the same road jugg ears and Hillary will take as they murder us at will then that family member loses ever shred of compassion that I mistakenly misplaced.

Posted by: Drider at July 31, 2016 02:57 PM (6Xbsz)

615 The intern that found Khan for Hillary, did he get a bonus?

Posted by: gNewt.....don't like Ryan....better call Paul...Nehlen, that is at July 31, 2016 02:58 PM (ylXIx)

616
All the rotten and evil things the Left actually does in the past week or even the past 48 hours are so quickly forgotten when a Republican merely says something the Left can politicize.

Khizr Khan, the muslim DNC operative and shill, can go shit in his hat.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at July 31, 2016 02:58 PM (sIqxP)

617 Off topic a bit, But what in the holy hell, I just ordered a pizza to pick up and looked at the bill, they added a 11.3% tax to the bill, is this some new pizza tax I'm not aware of? I live in VA and the normal tax rate is like 5.3 or 5.5. Geeze louise.

Posted by: spypeach at July 31, 2016 02:59 PM (nyYhO)

618 If you are a Christian, the criticizes you, or makes you bake cakes for lgbt/whatever the alphabet they've added today, or allow them to marry in your church, or force nuns to pay for abortions and birth control, or use your taxes to pay for baby chop shops under the guise of Planned Parenthood, and we are supposed to shut up and take it, or hide, or acknowledge that we are the "other."

If this family had not put themselves on national television, using their son's death to aggrandize a candidate, I would say that criticizing them would be beyond the pale. But they threw the gauntlet down first, and if they can go on national television and say what they did, then they need to put on their big boy/girl/whatever panties and take the consequences. If you don't want to hear criticism, don't put your face on my television.

Posted by: Moki at July 31, 2016 02:59 PM (ezHMO)

619 615 Posted by: gNewt.....don't like Ryan....better call Paul...Nehlen, that is at July 31, 2016 02:58 PM (ylXIx)

It's the CAIR bears not her intern I'd wager.

I am going back to the fade.

Was fun y'all, see you soon.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 03:00 PM (SzZnW)

620
615 The intern that found Khan for Hillary, did he get a bonus?
Posted by: gNewt.....don't like Ryan....better call Paul...Nehlen, that is at July 31, 2016 02:58 PM (ylXIx)

Doubt they needed that. CAIR probably handed him to the campaign on a silver platter.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 31, 2016 03:00 PM (bMG0w)

621 There is a large piece of pound cake on the counter in Saran Wrap. It taunts me.

Posted by: Weasel at July 31, 2016 03:00 PM (zNvaH)

622 Marseilles ferry reported bomb blast, ship evacuated, Lutherans suspected.

May have made up the last part...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 03:01 PM (C9pBZ)

623 617 Off topic a bit, But what in the holy hell, I just ordered a pizza to pick up and looked at the bill, they added a 11.3% tax to the bill, is this some new pizza tax I'm not aware of? I live in VA and the normal tax rate is like 5.3 or 5.5. Geeze louise.
Posted by: spypeach at July 31, 2016 02:59 PM (nyYhO)
---
It's the Cultural Appropriation Tax, Spypeach.

Stop exploiting my people's culinary traditions and we won't need to redistribute your wealth!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 31, 2016 03:01 PM (jR7Wy)

624 617 Off topic a bit, But what in the holy hell, I just ordered a pizza to pick up and looked at the bill, they added a 11.3% tax to the bill, is this some new pizza tax I'm not aware of? I live in VA and the normal tax rate is like 5.3 or 5.5. Geeze louise.
Posted by: spypeach at July 31, 2016 02:59 PM (nyYhO)

If you are in NoVA, it may be the new restaurant tax they've been itching to try out. Fairfax County has been pushing to add another 3-5% on top of the state and local 8% tax rate for any food provided by a restaurant because "for the children."

Posted by: Moki at July 31, 2016 03:01 PM (ezHMO)

625 SHIT. I knew I was forgetting something.....
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 31, 2016 02:52 PM (LuZz

Glad I could help.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 31, 2016 03:01 PM (0mRoj)

626 621 There is a large piece of pound cake on the counter in Saran Wrap. It taunts me.
Posted by: Weasel at July 31, 2016 03:00 PM (zNvaH)

=============
Ever try it lightly toasted with butter?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 31, 2016 03:02 PM (iQIUe)

627 617 depending on where, they may have applied a meal tax. Some jusisdictions also have a 'dining-in' tax, too, but that likely wouldn't (or shouldn't) apply to carry out. Meal tax would, though.

Posted by: Weasel at July 31, 2016 03:03 PM (zNvaH)

628
Major Nadil Hassan.

If this piece of shit died in Iraq in 2005 by a car bomb instead of shooting up Ft Hood in 2009 in a jihad attack (and surviving to never face trial), the Democrats would have his father on the convention stage.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at July 31, 2016 03:03 PM (sIqxP)

629 Just go vote dem.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at July 31, 2016 02:47 PM (RRLg9)

That is a bit unfair. In between the most hardcore nevertrumps- who won't vote for him, and the Hardcore Trump fans- who would vote for him no matter what, there is a great unwashed sea of people who see him as the lesser of two evils. He is their second or third choice precisely because of what we see as his downsides.

This backbiting may not be the same by degree but it is exactly the same in kind as we have seen the past two elections where many of the same people who are supporting Trump told those supporting Romney or McCain that he would lose because of what he said, or more often what he failed to say.

Trump has challenged the enemy on their home turf- in the public eye and in media. Did you expect them to surrender the field without a fight? No, they will fight tooth and nail and turn everything they have done in the past up to 11 in order to teach you and Trump a lesson about daring to get out of the box that they have set aside for you.

So, yes, none of this was unexpected, but given the fact that a lot of people are in the "Aww, fuck it. I guess Trump" division (who you need, btw) you should not be surprised when they pipe up at what they see as a Trump error.

We need to start being able to take criticism of the candidate without it devolving into primary internecine throwdowns.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 31, 2016 03:03 PM (3ZoRf)

630 Did He really or did they bump up His numbers before the Dem convention so that they could bring them down to show Hillary's Convention bump up?Posted by:�donna�

It's all insanity. PPP wants us to believe that Hillary Clinton 'shored up her support among men' during the convention. I read the words but they didn't make any sense.

I think something else, like methodology, is involved.

Posted by: free range sort of conservative at July 31, 2016 03:03 PM (ZnIt3)

631 Nood

Open thread with a kittah

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2016 03:03 PM (bksJQ)

632 Stop exploiting my people's culinary traditions and we won't need to redistribute your wealth!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 31, 2016 03:01 PM (jR7Wy)

Well shit, sorry, guess I'll just drown my freaking sorrows in a high taxed glass of italian wine.

Posted by: spypeach at July 31, 2016 03:04 PM (nyYhO)

633 617,
"Meals taxes " VA has some of the highest such taxes in the US.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 03:04 PM (C9pBZ)

634 Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 03:01 PM (C9pBZ) Thanks Mouse. That did not come up on BBC nor CNN websites. I know they both have bias but both usually seem pretty good for reporting events.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 31, 2016 03:05 PM (Jen0I)

635 626. No - I don't think it's ever lasted long enough for that.

Posted by: Weasel at July 31, 2016 03:05 PM (zNvaH)

636 Have we turned this into a gun thread yet?

Bought a Kahr CW9 at the gun show today.///

If you bought it at a gun show. Did you get your free loophole machine gun?

Posted by: Willy J. at July 31, 2016 03:06 PM (BZey7)

637 Well shit, sorry, guess I'll just drown my freaking sorrows in a high taxed glass of italian wine.
Posted by: spypeach at July 31, 2016 03:04 PM (nyYhO)
---
You are literally figuratively drinking my people's blood!

*dances tarantella of despair*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 31, 2016 03:06 PM (jR7Wy)

638 #618

Yep, and one has to distinguish between criticism and insane hatred. The guy who expressed the desire to see Pat Smith beaten to death should be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life. He made it clear what kind of person he was in that moment and should feel marked forever after, as he has chosen to treat others.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 31, 2016 03:06 PM (IdCqF)

639 Have we turned this into a gun thread yet?

Bought a Kahr CW9 at the gun show today.

*Cur does happy dance*

Now I need to get a proper IWB holster...... and a couple of extra mags..... and probably some other shit I can't remember right now.......
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
****

Congrats! You will love it. The softest shooting 9mm I have ever owned and easy to conceal. Plus they tend to be very reliable.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale-Skeet Surfer at July 31, 2016 03:07 PM (hVdx9)

640 I've decided that the only way to remain sane though November is to treat any Trump "controversy" the same way the media treats any Hillary controversy which can be summed up as "No biggie. Moving on."

The media created this latest nontroversy (because they are all Democrats) and this sort of partisan outrage should be a bi-weekly distraction.

I still despise Trump. But at this point, when I compare the Trump outrages and teapot tempests to Hillary's seriously disastrous and far reaching acts, they aren't even in the same league.

I would suggest everyone keep that level of perspective.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at July 31, 2016 03:07 PM (CbGSW)

641 Yep, and one has to distinguish between criticism and insane hatred. The guy who expressed the desire to see Pat Smith beaten to death should be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life. He made it clear what kind of person he was in that moment and should feel marked forever after, as he has chosen to treat others.
Posted by: Epobirs at July 31, 2016 03:06 PM (IdCqF)

Yeah. The internet is a great one for showing who people are inside. This guy is that black stuff at the bottom of a port-a-let after they empty it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 31, 2016 03:07 PM (3ZoRf)

642 You are literally figuratively drinking my people's blood!

*dances tarantella of despair*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 31, 2016 03:06 PM (jR7Wy)

And it's delicious

Posted by: spypeach at July 31, 2016 03:07 PM (nyYhO)

643 628
Major Nadil Hassan.

If this piece of shit died in Iraq in 2005 by a car bomb instead of shooting up Ft Hood in 2009 in a jihad attack (and surviving to never face trial), the Democrats would have his father on the convention stage.

Posted by: Mister Magoo's at July 31, 2016 03:03 PM (sIqxP)

Bingo. Well said.

Posted by: rickl at July 31, 2016 03:09 PM (sdi6R)

644 Yawn. I've never met a muslim who wasn't outraged 24/7. Never turn your back.

Posted by: Fritz at July 31, 2016 03:09 PM (WYh6/)

645 If there were some news story overshadowing a possible terrorist attack in France...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 03:10 PM (C9pBZ)

646 No need to fret. Khan's words did not change one vote. He's nobody who matters. Nobody was on the fence and then suddenly thought "Hmmm - that muslim guy with the odd name makes a compelling point - his passionate hyperbole has swayed me to oppose Trump." All he did was reinforce existing views (slightly).

This is because everybody with a brain knows, at the subconscious/gut level, that you can't put any stock into what some muslim says about anything.

Banning their entry is not enough. Removing those already here is the only path to domestic tranquility.

Posted by: Reactionary at July 31, 2016 03:10 PM (TsW/N)

647 642 You are literally figuratively drinking my people's blood!

*dances tarantella of despair*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 31, 2016 03:06 PM (jR7Wy)

And it's delicious
Posted by: spypeach at July 31, 2016 03:07 PM (nyYhO)
---
Gimme *holds up empty wine glass*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 31, 2016 03:11 PM (jR7Wy)

648
Have we turned this into a gun thread yet?

Bought a Kahr CW9 at the gun show today.///

If you bought it at a gun show. Did you get your free loophole machine gun?

Posted by: Willy J. at July 31, 2016 03:06 PM (BZey7)

SHIT. I knew I was forgetting something.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 31, 2016 03:13 PM (LuZz8)

649 584
Have we turned this into a gun thread yet?

Bought a Kahr CW9 at the gun show today.

*Cur does happy dance*

Now I need to get a proper IWB holster...... and a couple of extra mags..... and probably some other shit I can't remember right now.......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 31, 2016 02:45 PM (LuZz

Bullets.....I think that model needs bullets.

Posted by: Subt. JT at July 31, 2016 03:13 PM (qG0hz)

650
If you are a Christian, the criticizes you, or makes you bake cakes for
lgbt/whatever the alphabet they've added today, or allow them to marry
in your church, or force nuns to pay for abortions and birth control, or
use your taxes to pay for baby chop shops under the guise of Planned
Parenthood, and we are supposed to shut up and take it, or hide, or
acknowledge that we are the "other."

If this family had not put themselves on national television, using
their son's death to aggrandize a candidate, I would say that
criticizing them would be beyond the pale. But they threw the gauntlet
down first, and if they can go on national television and say what they
did, then they need to put on their big boy/girl/whatever panties and
take the consequences. If you don't want to hear criticism, don't put
your face on my television.

Posted by: Moki a

I don't know what you were actually saying it is a terriible read, TLDR, BUT, I DID make this observation for myself on facebook when I lost my shit on my own feed after the Pence retreat on the religious defense bill.

I have a question. Sex work is legal in Nevada. Is a Heterosexual woman ALLOWED to deny sex service to a Lesbian Woman? Is a Heterosexual man, ALLOWED to deny sex serves to a homosexual man? Lets take it to the logical extremes. . . THAT DO EXIST!

I think I will fuck a man in the ass, Just to test this argument.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 03:13 PM (92bDo)

651 Gimme *holds up empty wine glass*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 31, 2016 03:11 PM (jR7Wy)

Pours giant glass of nero d'avola morgante through port.

Posted by: spypeach at July 31, 2016 03:14 PM (nyYhO)

652 What a waste of booze, just got three fingers tequilla on a contentions thread, or cheap beer.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 03:15 PM (92bDo)

653 And now we're surprised that Trump is a self centered schmuck? A little late. However, Mr. Khan should be addressing Mr. Obama, who has left the military in harm's way, and his third termer, Hillary, regarding sacrifice...

Posted by: macleod at July 31, 2016 03:17 PM (FSHgk)

654 Ahhhhh. Booze, the cause of and solution to all of life's problems.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 31, 2016 03:18 PM (jR7Wy)

655 So, yes, none of this was unexpected, but given the fact that a lot of people are in the "Aww, fuck it. I guess Trump" division (who you need, btw) you should not be surprised when they pipe up at what they see as a Trump error.

We need to start being able to take criticism of the candidate without it devolving into primary internecine throwdowns.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 31, 2016 03:03 PM (3ZoRf)

============
Pipe up? They never shut the fuck up whether an alleged error or not.

You need to stop with your constant generalizations.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 31, 2016 03:19 PM (iQIUe)

656 So, is Trump an asshole. Yes, I think so. But is he preferable to Hillary? Yes, I think that is the case also. It is a measure of just how awful the last eight years have been and the intense hope to stop these awful policies from continuing and growing.

This is why we in CA made Schwarzenegger the Governor. Even much of the left was aware of how hapless the then Governor was and felt desperate to change things, even with a candidate that would have only been possible in a madcap satire like 'Blazing Saddles' in any earlier decade. The problem with Arnold is he isn't one of his action hero characters who would do would was needed regardless of the hand wringers' objections. He wanted to be loved and wasn't going to fight very hard once the sniping started.

Well, Trump is certainly up for returning in kind, but without much thought along the way. The one great hope is that the claims about the VP selection process were true and that they were looking for someone who would effectively be President. Trump would have his ultimate egoboo and let the VP and Cabinet handle nearly everything. Then Trump would step aside from seeking a second term in favor of Pence running for President and effectively a second term.

Trump simply doesn't strike me as especially interested in the job itself. He appears to have no interest in all in the nuts and bolts of how the government is supposed to work. But installing him in the Oval Office may be the price required to stall the left's assault on everything that made this nation the world greatest defense against them.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 31, 2016 03:22 PM (IdCqF)

657 Pipe up? They never shut the fuck up whether an alleged error or not.

You need to stop with your constant generalizations.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 31, 2016 03:19 PM (iQIUe)

I try to leave it general because I do not want to tar with a brush every member of a specific group unless they deserve it.

And I will continue to try to get people to work together to defeat Hillary (no matter what they think of Trump) instead of fighting each other all the time in giant thundering flame threads.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 31, 2016 03:23 PM (3ZoRf)

658 In case you needed reminding, now the full force of the death star will be brought against Trump.

That's the MSM, the DNC, CAIR, La Raza, Business leaders, and even some in the GOPe.

This was always coming.

I doubt you will ever hear another negative thing about Hillary.

I doubt you will see less than two hundred negative stories about Trump.

They will attack, attack and attack. And Trump, praised for his ability to fight, will be as an elephant swarmed by flies.

This was foretold. Gird your loins.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 31, 2016 03:24 PM (pUDQf)

659 Wait. A tarantula is drinking All Hail Eris' blood?

Posted by: Guy who only skims the comments at July 31, 2016 03:28 PM (sdi6R)

660 Trump initially responded in the wrong way but hey that's Trump.

There needs to be some kind of pushback on all these people who viciously attack Republicans and hide behind claimed absolute moral authority. Mr. Khan wants to call Trump names and be immune from response? Nope. Sorry. That's another rig in the rigged system that people are sick and tired of.

Posted by: deepelemblues at July 31, 2016 03:30 PM (jteju)

661 I find lately that I like to think about what Trump would do if we refused to get all worked up and outraged by these sorts of statements of his.

At first he would probably, in the parlance of the day, double down on being outrageous, saying even more objectionable and offensive things. But then he'd stop, wouldn't he, if we refused to give him the attention he craves?

Depends on his motivation in the first place, I suppose. Why does he say these things? Because he is offended and feels a need to defend himself? Because he is trying to make a broader political or policy point? I don't think so. More likely this is a tactic to get and keep the attention on him - and all for free.

So, Donald, I'll be over here, lurking and listening but not reacting.

Posted by: steve walsh at July 31, 2016 03:32 PM (SPxQP)

662 I think I will fuck a man in the ass, Just to test this argument.Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 03:13 PM (92bDo)

Do you still break bitches?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 31, 2016 03:35 PM (97XyN)

663 Still, Cruz.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 31, 2016 03:37 PM (vP09u)

664 663 Still, Cruz.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 31, 2016 03:37 PM (vP09u)

You know, Cruz is going to grow three inches considering how many times people whip him out.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 31, 2016 03:38 PM (3ZoRf)

665 One has to wonder what the polls would say right now if the GOP candidate was Rubio or even Kasich. I didn't support either of them in the primaries, but I think both of them would have won the election against Hillary.

Posted by: Slappy at July 31, 2016 03:40 PM (rtfSu)

666 >>>You're going to have to clean up all that straw this time.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 31, 2016 12:35 PM (BlaJc)

And this is why we can't have nice things.

Posted by: m at July 31, 2016 03:51 PM (/7Lfc)

667 One has to wonder what the polls would say right now if the GOP candidate was Rubio or even Kasich. I didn't support either of them in the primaries, but I think both of them would have won the election against Hillary.
Posted by: Slappy at July 31, 2016 03:40 PM (rtfSu)

*****

They couldn't even come close to winning the Primaries.

If my Aunt had balls she would be my Uncle.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 31, 2016 03:53 PM (BlaJc)

668 *reads comments*

*types deletes types deletes*

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at July 31, 2016 03:53 PM (R5HRU)

669 And this is why we can't have nice things.
Posted by: m at July 31, 2016 03:51 PM (/7Lfc)

****

Yes, because of poignant observations.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 31, 2016 03:55 PM (BlaJc)

670 Every TrumpFucker creating a LIE about AMA needs to get around to the FACT, that in 2006 I was a CO-CREATOR with Mesablue of the Blog, Absolute Moral Authority. in CONTRADICTION to Sheehan, so FUCK YOUR ASSUMPTIONS and FUCK your ANALYSIS, because You are trite little lashing out children rooting fort the mean kid who serves you best.

You ARE FUCKING IDIOTS! You SMEARED the BEST CANDIDATES we have had in 2 generations, and you created trump, because

Honestly I don't know why. The man has offered nothing.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 03:55 PM (92bDo)

671 Supporting rubio and kasich is supporting a LESS aggressive murderer who prefers strangling.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 03:57 PM (92bDo)

672 Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 03:55 PM (92bDo)

*passes an oxygen mask*

Whoa, my dude, relax and breathe.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at July 31, 2016 03:57 PM (R5HRU)

673 "One has to wonder what the polls would say right now if the GOP candidate was Rubio or even Kasich. I didn't support either of them in the primaries, but I think both of them would have won the election against Hillary."

Geez. Concern trolls.

Posted by: Tuna at July 31, 2016 03:58 PM (JSovD)

674 "as My last breath was leaving my body I was thinking that this would be a less horrible death had it only been someone as gentle as rubio, or as caring as kasic, but I all I got was just this miserable slow death."

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 03:58 PM (92bDo)

675 A little late but could not resist. I disagree DiT is "100% right". Distinction has to be made between an individual expressing his grief yelling at someone at random, and a man politicizing his son death, using it to advance a political candidate. The woman who lost her son in Benghazi came out to offer her support because Hillary is directly responsible for her son's death, and thinks that Trump is a person to not let what happened to her son happen again. What was the point of Khan ? To attack Trump as a muslim hater ? Theatrics? To tell us all that islam is a religion of peace and patriots ? What was he angry about exactly and does Trump have to do with it ?

Posted by: runner at July 31, 2016 03:59 PM (QeI7K)

676 No really, for a while I was an active participant on a blog called, "Moral Authority."

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 03:59 PM (92bDo)

677 I've read the Constitution.

It doesn't give the Radical Islamic terrorists who killed his son a Constitutional Right to enter America--or their sympathizers. It gives Congress the right to regulate admission. Not the Muslim Brotherhood currently in power. Nor Hillary's proposed Dept. of Illegal Immigration.

It says "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." That is not an open invitation to 7th century Death-Cultists.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 31, 2016 04:00 PM (Ndje9)

678 You ARE FUCKING IDIOTS! You SMEARED the BEST CANDIDATES we have had in 2 generations, and you created trump, because

---------

Who? The Canadian and Cuban?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at July 31, 2016 04:00 PM (BS8yt)

679 Clean up in aisle 670.

Methinks there is a violation of Ace's civility mandates.

Posted by: Tuna at July 31, 2016 04:01 PM (JSovD)

680 WickedPinto.....

I was gonna pull the fade but quick question....

Why has "Absolute Moral Authority" been radio silent since 2013 comrade?

https://moralauthority.wordpress.com/

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 04:03 PM (SzZnW)

681 Just for the record and for the Khans.

In 2004, the President of the United States DID NOT LIE to Gold Star Parents about the death of their child, as Hillary Clinton did in 2012 to Patricia Smith.

And he DID NOT LIE, as Hillary Clinton did in 2012 to the Pakistani people, that the cause of the attack on our consulate in Libya was "due to a video".

History tells us the President Thomas Jefferson, drafter of the Declaration of Independence, sent the U. S. Navy to Libya to deal with Muslim pirates, an event recognized today in the Marine Hymn, "to the shores of Tripoli". Today most pirates are Muslim.

SEMPER FI!, means never lying to Gold Star Parents.

It is in Latin, as are many other legal terms, which ought to be familiar to people who have law degrees, even those from Harvard and Yale.

The Koran allows lying by Muslims to unbelievers of that faith. The U. S. Constitution does not.

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at July 31, 2016 04:03 PM (EMi53)

682 679 Posted by: Tuna at July 31, 2016 04:01 PM (JSovD)

Nah WickedPinto is a horde legend...

He was a thing here when I was mostly at LGF and Tepid not here....

"calm" is not one of things at all, makes me look like a mellower Barry Manilow.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 04:04 PM (SzZnW)

683 I'm kinda done with the circular firing squad. I understand NeverTrumpers arguments I really do although I think they've lost sight on the most important thing; stopping the Left and their party of choice is the Democrat party.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at July 31, 2016 04:04 PM (R5HRU)

684 Joe the plumber , never forget.

Your sissy NRO nevertrumper ROE will always lose.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at July 31, 2016 04:05 PM (BS8yt)

685 683 Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at July 31, 2016 04:04 PM (R5HRU)

Yup, if I wanted to be attacked from my left all I have to do is go to Donk Underground led by Bill "Butt" Plugg...

anyway I am going home in a week, I have shopping to do and it is below 90 degrees....

time to go rearrange the sock drawer.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 04:07 PM (SzZnW)

686 Also, old Pakistani professor types are notorious for talking all Oxfordian "ethics" and philosophy in public and exercising a reign of terror by beating their wives and duaghters for every infraction at home. It was a scandal in academia a decade ago.

Posted by: bruce at July 31, 2016 04:08 PM (Y4e3V)

687 .

He seems incapable of not responding to attacks that are setups

====
I could teach him a thing or two about not responding.

Posted by: George W Bush at July 31, 2016 04:09 PM (GSzD5)

688 Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 03:55 PM (92bDo)

10 years, and you're just a bigger jerk.

Posted by: Growler at July 31, 2016 04:09 PM (PjWy4)

689 682
Yes, yes..old timers and all that. Still it is very rude to call fellow posters "fucking idiots". Very rude and uncalled for. From where I sit, it is playing right into the hands of the 'crats.

Posted by: Tuna at July 31, 2016 04:11 PM (JSovD)

690 The best defense is not saying anything. Just let the left run all over you.

Doormats are respected everywhere.

Worked great for me.

Posted by: George W Bush at July 31, 2016 04:12 PM (GSzD5)

691 Ahh..Food Thread. Now we're talking!

Posted by: Tuna at July 31, 2016 04:13 PM (JSovD)

692 689 Posted by: Tuna at July 31, 2016 04:11 PM (JSovD)

Eh, I think the right is determined to lose this race.

My life's goal is now insulating myself from any "Killing Fields" the left feels the need to set up when their Marxism fails(as it always does)

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 04:13 PM (SzZnW)

693 I couldn't hold the character that long, and Douche if I was a jerk the first time, it's because you were worthless and didn't get it. See, 10 years later, I'm a legend, and you are the midget picking at a legend.

I just couldn't maintain the character, it takes a lot of effort to be that angry, Unless the person you are forced to support is clinton, then RAW HATRED is the natural state, since the only option is PURE EVIL.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 04:21 PM (92bDo)

694 Come on everybody!

Wickedpinto after years of hiatus, stepped down from the heights of Mt Olympus , descending from his self-appointed status as WP the God of Bitch-Breaking just so that he could piss his own pants publicly , call you all children and dare you to make him change his soaked britches.

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED????

Posted by: Mortimer at July 31, 2016 04:22 PM (GSzD5)

695 Damn long string of comments to ever catch up...

"I'm nobody, but if anyone lost a child in combat they could scream "you fuckhead" to my face and I'd shut up and take it."

I'd tell them to go fuck themselves in the ass with a chainsaw and maybe they'd feel better about, that or just go join the other side because they are probably already there.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 31, 2016 04:23 PM (P/kVC)

696 VERY rude to call you Primary time Trump supporters idiots, But NOT! at ALL, in Fact LAUDETORY to call Cruz a liar for a liberal media outlets brodacast, or a devout christian a pedophile, to just LIE about everything from alpha to omega, and for me to say I will vote for the piece of shit, and accept the decision of the FUCKING IDIOTS because that's what you are, but to say I will vote for your guy, because you successfully covered all of us in scum?

Yes, I'm very impolite for saying the TRUTH, how HORRIBLE! Okay? Okay?

Maybe I should say the same 4 words over and over again like a self realizing bottom over a 70 minute speech to get your respect, but I don't need your respect, You are fucking whining pathetic retarded losers who think you are tough hiding behind a guy who will flinch at a movie punch.

FUCK YOU!

But Your little BITCH selection gets my vote.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 04:26 PM (92bDo)

697 lmao this is pure comedy

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at July 31, 2016 04:28 PM (R5HRU)

698 Yes, I'm very impolite for saying the TRUTH, how HORRIBLE! Okay?

===

Legend, huh?

Think I'll go read DU or Huffpo.
The troofers are less shrill there.

Posted by: Mortimer at July 31, 2016 04:29 PM (GSzD5)

699 And the are more in line with trumps ideology.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 31, 2016 04:34 PM (92bDo)

700 Its actually a very interesting philosophical point of view. Because I am a person that did some certain things I am a higher level of person than you are and even my stupidest most biased and agenda-driven remarks should be taken as Pearls of Wisdom.

Very elitest.

Posted by: Mortimer at July 31, 2016 04:34 PM (GSzD5)

701 Dovetails nicely with the thread. And provides a real life example.

Posted by: Mortimer at July 31, 2016 04:36 PM (GSzD5)

702 OMG you're internet comment thread famous! OMG that is just so awesome.

Posted by: buzzion at July 31, 2016 04:38 PM (bMG0w)

703 Do the parents of the soldiers that SGT Hasan K. Akbar & MAJ Nidal Hasan murdered in the name of Islam get a serving of Absolute Moral Authority (c) as well?

Someone should ask some of them them about how they feel about Mohammedan immigration.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at July 31, 2016 04:47 PM (j1Wvr)

704 A more glorious demonstration of fuckstickery have few men witnessed.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 31, 2016 05:04 PM (+wjl1)

705 "The bitchiest anti-Palin shrieking I heard was from guys, as have been the "trophy wife" comments."

Just the opposite from my experiences, I heard her called stupid too many times from older women. At the time I disagreed with them, but she unfortunately boarded the crazy train not too long ago.

Posted by: jazzuscounty at July 31, 2016 05:11 PM (iRHb1)

706 Is there anything whatsoever to suspect that he or his family is anything but a fully assimilated American family?

This is bullshit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 31, 2016 12:37 PM (SEXy3)

Sure it has been said before, wearing a bag, alien garb, is not assimilated.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 31, 2016 05:34 PM (P/kVC)

707 I always feel odd saying this but...

Trump is right.

And no, if your kid dies in combat, HE gets my full props and respect. Their parents don't get to scream in my face. That kind of thinking is what Cindy Sheehan rode. And I've known plenty of people who served who had...sub-par parents.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 31, 2016 05:34 PM (hR1Jj)

708 Don't wave a copy of the Constitution in my face, which you obviously haven't read, since its contents have nothing to do with anything you said. Nothing.

And what exactly is the point here? That there are Muslims who don't follow the insane supremacist ideals of Shariah? Yeah we know that. But there are 1.6 billion in the world, and if only one in ten - which is low-balling - either actively engages in or quietly sympathizes with Islamic supremacy, that's 160,000,000 Muslims. So because your adult son was killed by a product of your culture, we're not supposed to be concerned about millions of jihadists and feel guilty about having controls on Muslim immigration after countless attacks? Hey that's some sharp logic. Fuck you. If Muslims took responsibility and cleaned up their act, your son wouldn't have been killed by them.

Posted by: gzulux at July 31, 2016 05:43 PM (yn54h)

709 Why hasn't the Islamic community worldwide taken direct responsibility and actively worked to clean their cesspool of a culture up? Why hasn't the Gulf sheikdoms, and their trillions of petro-dollars, helped out at all with Syrian refugees? Why aren't people like Mr. Khan, who's son was killed by Muslim fanatics, loudly denouncing the nearly constant violence and civilian massacres?

But they say nothing. And they go further. They attack the people who want to discriminate between allowing Muslim killers and non-killers into this country. Wtf is that about? Because in Islam, self-criticism is not allowed in any form. It is *shame*. So Mr. Khan, in his silent acceptance of Islam's current state of Worst Culture On Earth, has absolutely no moral authority to criticize anyone or anything, in this country or anywhere else, concerning Islam.

Posted by: gzulux at July 31, 2016 05:43 PM (yn54h)

710 I have a long list of very specific gripes about things Hillary Clinton has done or said that make me loath her. I believe she lied about Whitewater. I know for a fact that she did a terrible job keeping Chris Stevens alive. She called the families of the Benghazi dead liars. She was cavalier with national security with her email server, and I believe the purpose of that server was to thwart federal FOIA laws. She lied about the content of the emails that were deleted, about the fact that there was no classified information on the server, and so on and so forth. And of course she ain't no ways tired. The list of specific gripes goes on and on.

The complaints I see about Trump usually are simple declarations - he's a con man. He's a racist. He's an idiot. He's dangerous. There's no discussion to be had there, but it would be nice to have specific examples of a con he's pulled off that makes one hate him so.

I'm not trying to convince anyone to vote for him or to change their minds about him, but hopefully a few people will stop and ask themselves if their opinions about him are truly supported by facts or simple tribal signaling - I've known people who have hated Trump since the mid-80s because they can't stand gold filigree or something.

AFAIK, Trump is a tacky, brash, rich businessman who likes to bang hot blondes with big tits. IMO this neither qualifies nor disqualifies him from being POTUS, but for many I think it does, and so they look for reasons to justify this prejudice against such a man, and land on things like conman, idiot, dangerous. People are entitled to their opinions, but just because an opinion is deeply-held doesn't mean it's supported by evidence.

Posted by: major major major major at July 31, 2016 05:44 PM (sW9iC)

711 Just posting here to hotlink the report in my sock for future threads but feel free to read it, thread late-comers.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 31, 2016 06:00 PM (LdMbv)

712 Cindy Sheehan got a huge amount of mileage out of people's reluctance to criticize her.

Posted by: Synova at July 31, 2016 06:18 PM (Ek0Xs)

713 Zombie, I totally agree with you. And we are not saying Trump is wrong on the merits, but that he handed Hillary an issue. Big difference.

Oh well, it's going to be a long, hot summer.

Good luck, all.

Posted by: PJ at July 31, 2016 06:28 PM (cHuNI)

714 Trump is a fucking disgrace. I was on the fence but this is the final straw. I won't for Hillary but there is no way on earth I'm giving this cunt Trumpmy vote.

I'll vote down ticket but sit out the Presidential vote. Both major candidates are completely unfit for the job. But Trump is frankly fucking insane.

Posted by: Vote down ticket at July 31, 2016 06:36 PM (HWO9a)

715 :poop:

Posted by: stace...TEXIT at July 31, 2016 06:47 PM (ozZau)

716 Frack Kahn. When he jumped into the political fray he is in a free fire zone. His son's sacrifice doesn't give a magic mantle of protection for his father to become a political tool and an Islamic Apologist.

Posted by: Ron Snyder at July 31, 2016 06:53 PM (3RGpt)

717 Trump is a fucking disgrace...

I'll vote down ticket but sit out the Presidential vote...

Thanks Ted, we get it.

BTW, Trump may be a fucking disgrace, but he is fucking George Washington reincarnate compared to the 16 tranzi POSs he beat down to get the nomination.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 31, 2016 07:34 PM (P/kVC)

718 714 Soros pay extra for the f bomb troll? When the hag stops denying she lied to the Beghazi parents you people can talk, until then " be quiet, I know you want to save her."

Posted by: Patrick Henry at July 31, 2016 07:58 PM (u+0lh)

719 *applause*

Posted by: Poo-flinging Monkeys at July 31, 2016 07:58 PM (ZKlDy)

720 Kahn attacked the gold star families who feel their loved ones sacrifice was betrayed Obama's and Clintons' hasty exit out of Iraq.

Posted by: Flawless Male logic at July 31, 2016 08:20 PM (J2idd)

721 Kahn says Islam has nothing to do with Jihad.

That is why I will not cry for him. I will cry for the millions of infidels around the world who are killed, lynched, raped, enslaved, and under constant threat of loss of life and property due to Kahn's fellow Muslims.

The ones he says has nothing to do with any of this. The ones he is covering up for by helping the political party that has made it clear it does not give a crap about those oppressed infidels getting killed and raped. The political party who if they get their way will bring that world of infidel oppression to America.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 31, 2016 08:28 PM (KhJh8)

722 Whipping out a pocket Constitition is an old trick of politicians,usually deployed just before they screw you.The Constitutional authoity to control immigration is given to the president.

Posted by: Flawless Male logic at July 31, 2016 08:33 PM (J2idd)

723 Trump never sacrificed, so you should vote for Hillary...According to people who voted for Obama over McCain, and Bill over Bob Dole.

Posted by: jd at July 31, 2016 08:34 PM (VnJQY)

724 Shoebat is on the job:
http://tinyurl.com/j7r8q3p

I stand with Trump.

Posted by: G6loq at July 31, 2016 08:38 PM (zj+JZ)

725 Anyone care to explain how Donald Trump is REMOTELY relevant to this guys' kid dying in Iraq a DECADE ago ?

Give me a fucking break. I get that it's a tragedy, but seriously, Donald Trump has not a fucking thing to do with it. Stop listening to the media spin, dipshit. Trump is not interested in doing anything to someone such as your son. All he wants is to restrict immigration from hot spots like Syria UNTIL we could get a handle on who is coming and why.

Posted by: deadrody at July 31, 2016 09:01 PM (q72NU)

726 This site used to be my go to site each day. Sadly, now I barely visit. Didn't help that I got banned for supporting Trump. It's become Little agreed Footballs lite.

Sad.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at July 31, 2016 09:10 PM (eXTZt)

727 Bye max.

Heh

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 31, 2016 09:30 PM (C9pBZ)

728 A little background on Kizr Khan, courtesy of Walid Shoebat...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/j7r8q3p

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at July 31, 2016 09:48 PM (0OG8D)

729 Oh! I now see that G6loq beat me to that particular punch at #724.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at July 31, 2016 09:50 PM (0OG8D)

730 The visual of a Muslim waving around the constitution while trashing an American presidential candidate, his wife at his side with head bowed and covered, is publicity Trump couldn't have purchased. Fuck the Islamist Khan.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 31, 2016 10:15 PM (pq97T)

731 So when Ace talks about "the moron Horde" he's talking about Texas Dave and the open one, and he means it literally?

This guy Khan is denying that there is a problem with Islam, which makes him a full on Islamofascist, engaged in religiously sanctioned deception about the nature and intentions of Islam, convincing the stupid infidels that those nasty terrorists aren't really Muslims. The idea is to delay a military response until it is too late. Make the infidels think they would be going to war against the wrong people if they blame Islam. It was all laid out by Muhammad. Lie lie lie and lie some more because "war is deception," and in Islam everything is war.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at July 31, 2016 10:49 PM (5SpNa)

732 We've heard this noise before and it is a load of biased bullshit. The media assigns "absolute moral authority" based on party affiliation. When you make yourself a partisan tool you should be called out as a partisan tool. Kahn is a partisan tool. Fuck his opinion. I don't have to give it one ounce of extra credit simply because his son was murdered by other Muslims. So what?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at July 31, 2016 10:56 PM (j1Wvr)

733 Fine. Hammer Trump. He might deserve it. BUT, you gotta hammer Crooked Hillary too Trump trots out his lady with the dead kid.

Would be better if neither side used these human props like toilet paper, but, if they do, then lets get a fair playing field.

Posted by: Big al at July 31, 2016 11:50 PM (g+iKx)

734 I hate to have to defend Trump, but how long a time period after losing a child until you can stop being an asshole to everyone? It's been 12 years. I've lost like 5 family members on that time, including my father. I don't have immunity to be a POS to everyone. You have to eventually move on.

Posted by: rexbatt at August 01, 2016 08:27 AM (woA40)

735 I don't know about this pussy David, but losing a kid in a war gives you zero, zero fucking additional rights when it comes to the overall country. Fucking cucks.

Posted by: WJ at August 01, 2016 08:56 AM (/fWUo)

736 "726
This site used to be my go to site each day. Sadly, now I barely visit.
Didn't help that I got banned for supporting Trump. It's become
Little agreed Footballs lite.

Sad."

Cute. You got band for being a self righteous douchebag supporting trump like an asshole, against qualified conservatives, and instead of defending yourself you stood up and spout all of the worthless crap that you got from trump and his MOSTLY SHIT STIRRING ALLIE'S, that you collected while on your ignorant knees with an open mouth.

I got banned for "gay bear stick." "Real Hero." "If I were Casey Sheehan, I would come back from the dead and beat my mothers ass, or at least not prevent it from happening when someone else did it." Or "Longbows!!!"

It takes effort to build a reference, it's easy to be a douche. You got banned because you are a douche, and your political philosophy is vapid and empty and I'm still voting for your guy because STUPIDITY AND LAZINESS AND HORRIBLE COMMAND OF THE LANGUAGE, and "Okay? Okay? Okay?" is a valid rhetorical device rather than a thoughtful interaction against those who disagree.

CICERO would have murdered himself after the first poll that put trump ahead in the first primary, and that can only happen through the effort of you being deliberately stupid. JUST like TRUMP.

Until you get banned for something that has to be explained, you didn't put any effort into it, you were just an asshole.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at August 01, 2016 10:17 AM (92bDo)

737 "I'm nobody, but if anyone lost a child in combat they could scream "you fuckhead" to my face and I'd shut up and take it"

We need someone who won't take it, Dave.

Posted by: DDT at August 01, 2016 10:55 AM (DUynq)

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