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stewart private car.jpg

Private Car
LeConte Stewart

Yup...never heard of this guy, but I like it!

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:12 AM




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1 Really?

Posted by: Shoeless 'ron at July 18, 2016 09:14 AM (JEx0Z)

2 My first "first!" Oh happy day! Love the painting, too.

Posted by: Shoeless 'ron at July 18, 2016 09:15 AM (JEx0Z)

3 I like this one too.
Got a summer flu, in bed from 1:30 pm yesterday until 5:30 this morning. Groooaann.

Posted by: LadyS at July 18, 2016 09:15 AM (C8ztS)

4 How many unseen dead hobos in that boxcar?

Posted by: Shoeless 'ron at July 18, 2016 09:16 AM (JEx0Z)

5 "Summer Flu"

Posted by: LadyS at July 18, 2016 09:15 AM (C8ztS)

Is that what the kids call it nowadays?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2016 09:16 AM (Zu3d9)

6 Lucky Seventh ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at July 18, 2016 09:17 AM (3X3ZR)

7 Aw, hope you feel better soon, LadyS

Posted by: Shoeless 'ron at July 18, 2016 09:17 AM (JEx0Z)

8 do i have to comment on the convention?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 18, 2016 09:17 AM (WTSFk)

9 ... no?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 18, 2016 09:18 AM (WTSFk)

10 It's like looking out the window of your blind and seeing half a dozen deer on opening morning.

Posted by: PabloD at July 18, 2016 09:18 AM (Cn1u8)

11 ... okay! see ya later!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 18, 2016 09:18 AM (WTSFk)

12 Say, any of you boys smithies? Or, if not smithies per se, were you otherwise trained in the metallurgic arts before straitened circumstances forced you into a life of aimless wanderin'?

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 09:18 AM (evdj2)

13 Good morning, everyone.

I like the picture, CBD. Thank you.

Posted by: bluebell at July 18, 2016 09:18 AM (805dc)

14 Damn hobos,where's the railroad cop?

Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2016 09:18 AM (B48dK)

15 Snipers all over the place.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2016 09:19 AM (/7Lfc)

16
It's like looking out the window of your blind and seeing half a dozen deer on opening morning.

Posted by: PabloD at July 18, 2016 09:18 AM (Cn1u










Or like a cat looking out the patio glass door at the bird feeding in the backyard.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2016 09:21 AM (T6P0y)

17 Lots better than walking

Posted by: Mr. Hope's Suitcase at July 18, 2016 09:21 AM (/m8T6)

18 Where's Ernest Borgnine when you need 'im?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 18, 2016 09:21 AM (3hIZX)

19 No ottoman?
No oversized gentleman?

Whew. Dodged one there today, we did.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 18, 2016 09:21 AM (C9pBZ)

20 It's not often that Waldo is just standing there, so obvious. Where's the challenge?

Posted by: mindful webworker - memefully meming at July 18, 2016 09:21 AM (OZZ16)

21
Where's Ernest Borgnine when you need 'im?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 18, 2016 09:21 AM (3hIZX)









Go away. Fappin'

Posted by: Zombie Ernest Borgnine at July 18, 2016 09:22 AM (T6P0y)

22 Alternate title, The Prey Sit, Unaware of The Hunters

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 18, 2016 09:22 AM (RD7QR)

23 The title of the painting adds a whole new dimension to the piece. Nice American humor.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2016 09:22 AM (/7Lfc)

24 Looks like a model railroad shot that was manipulated in Photoshop.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2016 09:22 AM (qUS4G)

25
We flew straight across that river bridge, last night half past two
The switch-man wave his lantern goodbye and good day as we went roling through
Billboards and truck stops pass by the grievous angel
And now I know just what I have to do...

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 09:23 AM (iQIUe)

26 interesting first name. LeConte= The tale (according to google, anyway)

Posted by: Mr. Hope's Suitcase at July 18, 2016 09:24 AM (/m8T6)

27 Don't make me laugh, CBD. It hurts!

Posted by: LadyS at July 18, 2016 09:24 AM (C8ztS)

28 This train is bound for glory.

Posted by: Woody Guthrie at July 18, 2016 09:24 AM (1xUj/)

29 Braaaains

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 18, 2016 09:24 AM (IE+vi)

30 "I wuz rail-roaded, I tell ya!"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2016 09:25 AM (NeFrd)

31 Upper bunk to the camps!

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 09:25 AM (m/IZ9)

32 interesting first name. LeConte


Pfft.

Posted by: Le Chiffre at July 18, 2016 09:25 AM (1xUj/)

33
These hobos are easy to track.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2016 09:25 AM (T6P0y)

34 Tip for that railroad car: make sure you check the potty TWICE before doing your business.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 18, 2016 09:26 AM (IE+vi)

35 Third boxcar, midnight train, destination, Bangor, Maine.
Old worn out clothes and shoes,
I don't pay no union dues,
I smoke old stogies I have found short, but not too big around
I'm a man of means by no means, king of the road.

Posted by: Bruce at July 18, 2016 09:26 AM (8ikIW)

36 Early Art.

Good morning, horde!

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 09:26 AM (7lVbc)

37 Got a summer flu, in bed from 1:30 pm yesterday until 5:30 this morning. Groooaann.
Posted by: LadyS at July 18, 2016 09:15 AM (C8ztS)

I've been sick as a dog the last 5 days! How does this happen?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at July 18, 2016 09:26 AM (RRLg9)

38 Looks like meats back on the table!



Hobo's are easy pickings out there in the open.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 09:27 AM (F1iXz)

39 HOBOS!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at July 18, 2016 09:28 AM (0O7c5)

40 How'd they get the telegraph wires to be so straight?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2016 09:28 AM (NeFrd)

41
One evening as the sun went down
And the jungle fires were burning,
Down the track came a hobo hiking,
And he said, "Boys, I'm not turning;

I'm headed for a land that's far away
Beside the crystal fountains
So come with me, we'll go and see
The Big Rock Candy Mountains.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 09:28 AM (evdj2)

42 I put up a post for D'Souza's Hillary's America (thanks to CBD for reminding me last night with his post)

This is gonna be one of my rare two post days as I will also do a book bomb post later

Link in nic

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 09:28 AM (7lVbc)

43 Now this is my idea of art!

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 18, 2016 09:28 AM (zoehZ)

44 Those depression era hobos were stringy and gamey...I hear tell.

Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2016 09:28 AM (B48dK)

45 Jimmy cracked corn and I don't caaarrrrreeeeee

Posted by: Mike at July 18, 2016 09:28 AM (YMpXZ)

46 I've been sick as a dog the last 5 days! How does this happen?


When a Mommy germ and a Daddy germ love each other very much they look for a nice place to live.

Posted by: Doogie Howser at July 18, 2016 09:28 AM (1xUj/)

47 Apparently the Baton Rouge shooter., a former member of the Nation of Islam, described himself on line as a "sovereign citizen" who refused to accept the authority of the federal government.

Tea Party guy. I thought so.

Posted by: Brian Ross at July 18, 2016 09:29 AM (/m8T6)

48 Transient is a gray meat. You need to trap them and feed them corn for a week to ten days to purify them.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 09:29 AM (evdj2)

49
Good morning America, how are you?
Said don't you know me, I'm your native son
I'm the train they call the City of New Orleans
I'll be gone 500 miles when the day is done

Posted by: Arlo With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 09:29 AM (iQIUe)

50 Those depression era hobos were stringy and gamey...I hear tell.

Posted by: steevy


Probably braising would be the best way of cooking.

Posted by: Bruce at July 18, 2016 09:30 AM (8ikIW)

51 Private Car

LeConte Stewart

that would make a good picture puzzle.

Posted by: docweasel at July 18, 2016 09:30 AM (Ao68V)

52 IllTemperedCur #33 These hobos are easy to track.

We're not going to tie this to a bunch of puns already, are we? To want to do that you'd have to have a loco motive.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I brake for hallucinations at July 18, 2016 09:30 AM (OZZ16)

53 How'd they get the telegraph wires to be so straight?


Just pride in my work, sir. Nothing fancy.

Posted by: Wichita Lineman at July 18, 2016 09:31 AM (1xUj/)

54 I think LeConte Stewart was a running back for the Bills a few seasons ago.

Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 09:31 AM (7HtZB)

55
Driving that train, high on cocaine,
Casey Jones you better watch your speed
Trouble ahead, trouble behind
And you know that notion just crossed my mind

Posted by: Dog Playing Dead at July 18, 2016 09:31 AM (iQIUe)

56 We're not going to tie this to a bunch of puns already, are we? "

You trying to spike this thread already?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 18, 2016 09:32 AM (C9pBZ)

57 "I saw you pee on a box car." -- My favorite joke in 4th grade. My dad worked for the U.P. for decades, and his father retired from there.

Posted by: Matt in Maine at July 18, 2016 09:32 AM (xajII)

58 Just pride in my work, sir. Nothing fancy.

Posted by: Wichita Lineman at July 18, 2016 09:31 AM (1xUj/)


******


You still on the line?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2016 09:33 AM (NeFrd)

59 Still more popular than Amtrak.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 18, 2016 09:33 AM (3hIZX)

60 56 We're not going to tie this to a bunch of puns already, are we? "

You trying to spike this thread already?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 18, 2016 09:32 AM (C9pBZ)

This is such a pain in the caboose.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 18, 2016 09:33 AM (RD7QR)

61 Those depression era hobos were stringy and gamey...I hear tell.

Posted by: steevy


Probably braising would be the best way of cooking.




Pressure cooker.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 09:33 AM (m/IZ9)

62 Must be running through Texas . The bluebonnets in bloom.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 18, 2016 09:34 AM (0QLpr)

63 We're not going to tie this to a bunch of puns already, are we? "

You trying to spike this thread already?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 18, 2016 09:32 AM (C9pBZ)

This is such a pain in the caboose.
Posted by: joncelli





We can track it until it goes 'round the bend!

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 09:34 AM (m/IZ9)

64 You trying to spike this thread already?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 18, 2016 09:32 AM (C9pBZ)


*****

And to think, I used to hold you in such high esteam.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2016 09:35 AM (NeFrd)

65 My dad worked for the U.P. for decades, and his father retired from there.


My grandfather worked for the Central Vermont railroad. I think it was a union featherbedding job, like the steam man on a diesel engine.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 09:35 AM (1xUj/)

66 I like this piece.

Could you imagine people hitching a ride on a freight train like this today? There was a sort of magic of endless possibilities that we've lost in modern society. You used to be able to just get up and go. With nothing but the clothes on your back, you could find a way across the country where nobody knew you, if you even knew where you were going in the first place.

Don't get me wrong. Modern society has a lot of benefits, and I'm very grateful for all the conveniences that I have over people living in years past, but there just isn't a sense of wonder any more. We're all connected to everywhere. You can't really explore anywhere, and no matter where you go, you can be found.

Nowadays, people can drive across the country, guided by the GPS on their phone without ever really having to figure out how to get where they want to be. Am I the only one who would very much enjoy taking a vacation where I'd just start driving and don't really care where I end up?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 18, 2016 09:35 AM (KUaJL)

67 We're not going to tie this to a bunch of puns already, are we? "


That could derail our whole train of thought.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 18, 2016 09:35 AM (3hIZX)

68 Dog Playing Dead at July 18, 2016 09:31 AM (iQIUe)

I was at the Dead and Company show at Fenway on Saturday. First time I've been in Fenway when there was more grass in the stands than on the field. Way more.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2016 09:36 AM (/tuJf)

69
'Women should not laugh in public,' says Turkey's Deputy Prime Minister in morality speech

http://goo.gl/gj5M1R

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 09:36 AM (iQIUe)

70 That could derail our whole train of thought.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 18, 2016 09:35 AM (3hIZX)

Railroad the entire conversation, why don't you?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 18, 2016 09:37 AM (KUaJL)

71 Art? You want art? this is art!

http://tinyurl.com/z77zktg

Posted by: MTF at July 18, 2016 09:37 AM (/m8T6)

72
n the Big Rock Candy Mountains,
There's a land that's fair and bright,
Where the handouts grow on bushes
And you sleep out every night.

Where the boxcars all are empty
And the sun shines every day
On the birds and the bees
And the cigarette trees
The lemonade springs
Where the bluebird sings
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 09:37 AM (evdj2)

73 Look out here she comes, she's coming
Look out there she goes, she's gone.
Steaming straight through Texas
like a mad dog, cyclone.

Big and red and silver
She don't make no smoke
She's a fast rolling, stream-lined
Come to show the folks!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2016 09:37 AM (NeFrd)

74 Nowadays, people can drive across the country, guided by the GPS on their phone without ever really having to figure out how to get where they want to be. Am I the only one who would very much enjoy taking a vacation where I'd just start driving and don't really care where I end up?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 18, 2016 09:35 AM (KUaJL)

Vacations like that often end up taking the wrong exit on 95 and winding up in a "vibrant" part of Baltimore.

Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 09:38 AM (7HtZB)

75 Nowadays, people can drive across the country, guided by the GPS on their phone without ever really having to figure out how to get where they want to be. Am I the only one who would very much enjoy taking a vacation where I'd just start driving and don't really care where I end up?
Posted by: joe



Country isn't as safe as it was in the 20's & 30's.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 09:38 AM (m/IZ9)

76 Am I the only one who would very much enjoy taking a vacation where I'd just start driving and don't really care where I end up?

Posted by: joe


I try and do this during my well planned trips. Some days I try and take the road less traveled. You can find all sorts of interesting stuff along the way. But, I do have a destination in mind.

Posted by: Bruce at July 18, 2016 09:38 AM (8ikIW)

77 Hey, Seamus, did you quit posting the diary entries after D-Day, or have I just been missing them? Well, I do miss 'em, one way or another.

Posted by: mindful webworker - intermittantly of late at July 18, 2016 09:38 AM (OZZ16)

78
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains
All the cops have wooden legs
And the bulldogs all have rubber teeth
And the hens lay soft-boiled eggs

The farmers' trees are full of fruit
And the barns are full of hay
Oh I'm bound to go
Where there ain't no snow
Where the rain don't fall
The winds don't blow
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 09:38 AM (evdj2)

79 Vacations like that often end up taking the wrong exit on 95 and winding up in a "vibrant" part of Baltimore.



Just ask the Grizwolds.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 09:39 AM (m/IZ9)

80 Yes, but you can't be twenty on Sugar Mountain.

Posted by: Neil Young at July 18, 2016 09:39 AM (1xUj/)

81 Nowadays, people can drive across the country, guided by the GPS on their phone without ever really having to figure out how to get where they want to be. Am I the only one who would very much enjoy taking a vacation where I'd just start driving and don't really care where I end up?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 18, 2016 09:35 AM (KUaJL)

=========
A number of people died because they got lost in deserts after relying on their GPS which was wrong. Even maps can be wrong and I speak from experience re maps.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 09:39 AM (iQIUe)

82 On the new Ghostbusters.

A lot of the hate isn't because of anti-feminism. For me it's hatred of how lazy Hollywood has become with remakes and reboots. Except for the gender switching there's not a single original thing in the bit. A reboot at least gives fans the promise of new things to come.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 18, 2016 09:39 AM (r1fLd)

83
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains
You never change your socks
And the little streams of alcohol
Come trickling down the rocks

The brakemen have to tip their hats
And the railway bulls are blind
There's a lake of stew
And of whiskey too
You can paddle all around them
In a big canoe
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 09:40 AM (evdj2)

84 telephone wires are straight because there wasn't any gay wire back then...

Posted by: torabora at July 18, 2016 09:40 AM (t9KMb)

85 Oh, I read of LeConte Stewart - featured in an issue of American Heritage, ages ago. Nice regional artist - really got the sense of a place, as I realized when I lived in Utah for almost three years.

Harvey Dunn is another nice regional artist, also. Sort of semi-impressionalist with a nice sense of place.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 18, 2016 09:40 AM (xnmPy)

86 59
Still more popular than Amtrak.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 18, 2016 09:33 AM (3hIZX)

Better air conditioning.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 09:40 AM (F1iXz)

87 I try and do this during my well planned trips. Some
days I try and take the road less traveled. You can find all sorts of
interesting stuff along the way. But, I do have a destination in mind.


Posted by: Bruce

I should add, I do avoid the aforementioned vibrant parts of the country

Posted by: Bruce at July 18, 2016 09:41 AM (8ikIW)

88
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains,
The jails are made of tin.
And you can walk right out again,
As soon as you are in.

There ain't no short-handled shovels,
No axes, saws nor picks,
I'm bound to stay
Where you sleep all day,
Where they hung the jerk
That invented work
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains ...

I'll see you all this coming fall
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 09:41 AM (evdj2)

89 A number of people died because they got lost in deserts after relying on their GPS which was wrong. Even maps can be wrong and I speak from experience re maps.



Donner party. Party of 8.

Now seating the Donner party. Party of 7.

Donner party. Party of 7.

Now seating the Donner party. Party of 6.......

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 09:41 AM (m/IZ9)

90 When I was a kid, we'd sometimes jump a rattler over to the next town. Risky, but thank goodness, none of us were hurt. Trick is not to run to catch the car, but to run in the direction of it as it comes toward you. Course, they always slowed down in-town. Insane, as I think back on it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 18, 2016 09:41 AM (ROucc)

91 That was Amtrack back when I was a freshman Senator.

I'm really old.

Posted by: Sheriff Joe Biden at July 18, 2016 09:41 AM (t9KMb)

92 Vacations like that often end up taking the wrong exit on 95 and winding up in a "vibrant" part of Baltimore.
Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 09:38 AM (7HtZB)

Ha ha. Back in the days before GPS, it was my job to use the map to navigate while hubby drove. (Very stressful job, navigating by map in real time!)

Vacation plan was to visit the Baltimore aquarium, then go to DC.

We did end up passing through the vibrant section of Baltimore. Lucky it was a slow time of day, I think.

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 09:42 AM (7lVbc)

93 This piece of glorious art makes me hungry.

Have I mentioned the new restaurant nearby called The Traveling Hobo Cafe. All fresh food and filled with Hobo art

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 18, 2016 09:42 AM (ISejo)

94 Ghostbusters- Version Fem has been banned in China, in a big blow to the film's revenue potential. Ghosts are a big no-no in China.

http://tinyurl.com/hvxjwwg

Posted by: MTF at July 18, 2016 09:43 AM (/m8T6)

95 Speaking of telephone lines. I'll never forget as a kid riding a train from NYC to DC and marveling at all the lines that followed the track.



This was before any were buried. I mean six stacks of cross bars on a pole.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 09:43 AM (F1iXz)

96
Which old time candy commercial used a train? Was it Good N Plenty? Or, Chunky's?

Do they still sell those two candies?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 09:43 AM (iQIUe)

97 For a short time there was an app that indicated which neighborhoods were high crime ghettos.
I think the SJWs mobbed them out of existence.

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 09:43 AM (7lVbc)

98 Vacations like that often end up taking the wrong exit on 95 and winding up in a "vibrant" part of Baltimore.
Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 09:38 AM (7HtZB)

Given that I live in Baltimore now, I think I can at least make it to Virginia before making a wrong turn.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 18, 2016 09:43 AM (KUaJL)

99 That's the train to Scranton? right?

Posted by: Sheriff Joe Biden at July 18, 2016 09:44 AM (t9KMb)

100 Good N Plenty is still around,they make a bunch of different flavors now.

Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2016 09:44 AM (B48dK)

101 Which old time candy commercial used a train? Was it Good N Plenty? Or, Chunky's?



Do they still sell those two candies?

Good and Plenty

They still make them both.

Once upon a time there was an engineer,
Choo Choo Charlie was his name we hear....

Posted by: Bruce at July 18, 2016 09:44 AM (8ikIW)

102 92 Vacations like that often end up taking the wrong exit on 95 and winding up in a "vibrant" part of Baltimore.
Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 09:38 AM (7HtZB)

Ha ha. Back in the days before GPS, it was my job to use the map to navigate while hubby drove. (Very stressful job, navigating by map in real time!)

Vacation plan was to visit the Baltimore aquarium, then go to DC.

We did end up passing through the vibrant section of Baltimore. Lucky it was a slow time of day, I think.
Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 09:42 AM (7lVbc)

That happened to my family when I was a little kid on a trip to Florida. And the car broke down in Baltimore.

Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 09:44 AM (7HtZB)

103 For a short time there was an app that indicated which neighborhoods were high crime ghettos.
I think the SJWs mobbed them out of existence.




I'll take "What is a blue state" for $500 Alex.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 09:44 AM (m/IZ9)

104 Ahh...childhood memories.

We'd salvage spikes and year-nails whenever the gandy dancers passed through.

And those old insulators for the lines - glass, mostly, but you'd find the occasional ceramic one. Usually shaped like a dalek. Betcha I've got a hundred or more stashed at the folks' place.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 18, 2016 09:45 AM (ROucc)

105 Mornin hoard.
Missed the dump, and most of the weekend for that matter.
Nice pic CBD.
Still see a rail rider from time to time here in the Midwest. Mostly younger men. Cheaper than flying I suppose.

Posted by: IP at July 18, 2016 09:46 AM (Fol9S)

106 96


Which old time candy commercial used a train? Was it Good N Plenty? Or, Chunky's?



Do they still sell those two candies?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 09:43 AM (iQIUe)

Yes. I hated Chunky's because of the raisins. Tasted like medicine. Train ad?

http://tinyurl.com/jm8zq7h

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 09:46 AM (F1iXz)

107 We'd salvage spikes and year-nails whenever the gandy dancers passed through.



Sashaying thru town!

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 09:46 AM (m/IZ9)

108
For a short time there was an app that indicated which neighborhoods were high crime ghettos.
I think the SJWs mobbed them out of existence.

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 09:43 AM (7lVbc)








My rule of thumb has been to avoid the south side of any town/city. For some reason, that tracks pretty well with the high-crime shit-holes. There are exceptions of course, but it seems to work pretty well if you don't have any info on an area.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2016 09:47 AM (T6P0y)

109 And those old insulators for the lines - glass, mostly, but you'd find the occasional ceramic one.

--

Omg, you just reminded me of those little ceramic rings in my dad's garage. Is that what they were?

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 09:48 AM (7lVbc)

110 103
For a short time there was an app that indicated which neighborhoods were high crime ghettos.

I think the SJWs mobbed them out of existence.




All census traits show percentage of Black residents. Not to imply that Black residents live in High crime ghettos.



I mean that would be honest.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 09:49 AM (F1iXz)

111 Medicine?Chocolate and raisins are a good combo.

Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2016 09:49 AM (B48dK)

112 Heh, I haven't heard the term "gandy dancer" in ages.

I think any kid who grew up model railroading romanticizes the whole affair. My kids didn't. I'll never understand some aspects of those brats.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 09:49 AM (1xUj/)

113 There are exceptions of course, but it seems to work pretty well if you don't have any info on an area.


You can also use google maps and do a restaurant search.
If there are not a lot of chain type restaurants and/or the ones that are there get terrible ratings, it's probably in a "vibrant" area.

Posted by: Bruce at July 18, 2016 09:49 AM (8ikIW)

114 Hate to say it but when I was very young ( pre teen) and dumb my group of friends used to take crap from these trains since they locked the doors with basically a piece of thin wire. I participated once and took home a 50lb sack of rice.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 18, 2016 09:50 AM (0QLpr)

115 IllTemperedCur: My rule of thumb has been to avoid the south side of any town/city...

East St Louis and North Tulsa could fool you.

Posted by: mindful webworker - geo graphically at July 18, 2016 09:50 AM (OZZ16)

116
My rule of thumb has been to avoid the south
side of any town/city. For some reason, that tracks pretty well with the
high-crime shit-holes. There are exceptions of course, but it seems to
work pretty well if you don't have any info on an area.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2016 09:47 AM (T6P0y)

A pretty safe bet. The North side, or high side is usually high income. Charlotte is the only city I know of where that is reversed.
The water was on the South side, so it is the high income side.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 09:50 AM (F1iXz)

117 And occasionally, box of flares or fuzees would 'fall off' a caboose.

The flares were insane - all the intensity of a forest fire in a handy, portable size.

Fuzees were dangerous. Sorta like a mine to signal the engineer. Wheel hits it, the thing sounds like a rifle shot to alert him to stop. I never screwed with the damned things, but knew kids who did.

Railroad cops would beat you bloody if they caught you with one of those.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 18, 2016 09:51 AM (ROucc)

118 Great. Thread's already off the rails.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 18, 2016 09:51 AM (9krrF)

119 I've moved from Trump can win to "it's his to lose."

Yesterday's cop shooting only adds to this. Hillary wanted BLM on simmer not boil, to boost black turnout but not alienate a larger number of whites, who outnumber blacks by more than five to one.

The one certainty out of this is that we'll have passive policing in communities of color, and that as night follows day much higher levels of shootings and murder. Will Obama still call it justice.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 18, 2016 09:51 AM (r1fLd)

120
Just as a side note, the red/pink Good N Plentys use a dye that's made from crushed insects, specifically a parasite found on cactus.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2016 09:51 AM (T6P0y)

121
East St Louis and North Tulsa could fool you.


East St. Louis is a whole other state from St. Louis (and it used to be an affluent area in the '40s).

The bad side of St. Louis is the north side.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 18, 2016 09:51 AM (3hIZX)

122 time there was an app that indicated which neighborhoods were high crime ghettos.

I think the SJWs mobbed them out of existence.



There is a comedian who has a bit about if you're lost in a bad section of town just input Barnes and Noble into your GPS to find your way out.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 18, 2016 09:52 AM (0QLpr)

123 111
Medicine?Chocolate and raisins are a good combo.

Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2016 09:49 AM (B48dK)

Each to his own. I hate that raisin shit in my teeth. Can not stand raisins in cereal. Yuck

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 09:52 AM (F1iXz)

124 100 Good N Plenty is still around,they make a bunch of different flavors now.
Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2016 09:44 AM (B48dK)


Choo-choo Joey was an imbecile,
For 40 years, his mitts were in the till . . .


That's all I got.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 18, 2016 09:52 AM (27m1/)

125 That happened to my family when I was a little kid on a trip to Florida. And the car broke down in Baltimore.
Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 09:44 AM (7HtZB)

Made wrong turn and ended up in bombed out part of Detroit in late 80's. Didn't worry too much because I was driving a '67 Dodge Dart.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 18, 2016 09:52 AM (WVeiZ)

126 There is a comedian who has a bit about if you're lost in a bad section of town just input Barnes and Noble into your GPS to find your way out.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 18, 2016 09:52 AM (0QLpr)

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 09:53 AM (7lVbc)

127 118
Great. Thread's already off the rails.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 18, 2016 09:51 AM (9krrF)

Looks like it's been "switched"?

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 09:53 AM (F1iXz)

128 Votermom -

Yep. Daleks with a threaded base? Those are telegraph/telephone insulators.

Ceramic ones are older, and more rare. Fragile, and not made from scrap glass, like the usual ones.

I've seen a few shaped like donuts....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 18, 2016 09:53 AM (jT3L9)

129 There is a comedian who has a bit about if you're lost in a bad section
of town just input Barnes and Noble into your GPS to find your way out.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 18, 2016 09:52 AM (0QLpr)
___________________________


So true, I'm keeping this for later.

Posted by: IP at July 18, 2016 09:53 AM (Fol9S)

130 Hate to say it but when I was very young ( pre teen) and dumb my group
of friends used to take crap from these trains since they locked the
doors with basically a piece of thin wire. I participated once and
took home a 50lb sack of rice.


I used to schedule our bulk rail cars in. If the wire was cut we would have to reject the whole car. The possibility of tampering was too strong.
Costs a lot of money to replace the car, plus the possibility of down time that then would have to be explained.

Posted by: Bruce at July 18, 2016 09:54 AM (8ikIW)

131 126
There is a comedian who has a bit about if you're lost in a bad section
of town just input Barnes and Noble into your GPS to find your way out.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 18, 2016 09:52 AM (0QLpr)


Not any more. That will just lead you to an abandoned shopping mall.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 09:54 AM (F1iXz)

132 new social network where you can earn money commenting-and it's anonymous so the SJW can't out you. Jawbuck.com

Posted by: pointsnfigures at July 18, 2016 09:54 AM (Cgudb)

133 126 There is a comedian who has a bit about if you're lost in a bad section of town just input Barnes and Noble into your GPS to find your way out.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 18, 2016 09:52 AM (0QLpr)


Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 09:53 AM (7lVbc)

The President was right! It's easier to buy a gun than a book in our cities!

Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 09:54 AM (7HtZB)

134 129 Which is why it is easier to by a gun than a book in the 'hood.Racist.
Barack

Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2016 09:54 AM (B48dK)

135 Looks like some prime hobo hunting right there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 09:55 AM (1ZOkK)

136 Posted by: Bruce at July 18, 2016 09:54 AM (8ikIW)

Yes I still feel guilty today for that stupid sack of rice.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 18, 2016 09:55 AM (0QLpr)

137 The geography of MTG is...special. Money flees east here; the west is worst, followed by north and south. It's like a Pac-Man chasing a ghost.

Of course since Pike Road got incorporated a while back, the eastward push is a bit complicated now. Plus it's majority-minority now and we've had a spike in...incidents lately. Place I'm at is still good but it's a matter of time.

Evac plan has an initial rally point/bolthole but I need to go past that. Problem is my list of ultimate destinations is slim, and I have complicated logistics with dad now. (I'll be the only SOB looting pharmacies for Namenda and Donepezil, I guaran-damn-tee ya.)

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 18, 2016 09:55 AM (9krrF)

138 The bad side of St. Louis is the north side.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles




Still?

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 09:55 AM (m/IZ9)

139 135
Looks like some prime hobo hunting right there.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 09:55 AM (1ZOkK)

"Dry aged"?

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 09:55 AM (F1iXz)

140 Listen to the jingle, the rumble and the roar
As she glides along the woodland o'er the hills and by the shore
Hear the mighty rush of the engine hear those lonesome hoboes call
Traveling through the jungle on the Wabash Cannonball

I remember that song being popular when I was about six, and asking the band at a wedding reception to play it for me. They did.

Posted by: WaitingForMartel at July 18, 2016 09:57 AM (BYSrJ)

141 There is a comedian who has a bit about if you're lost in a bad section of town just input Barnes and Noble into your GPS to find your way out.



Safest place to ride out a riot.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 09:58 AM (m/IZ9)

142 Grew up in a switching and major maintenance town. Overturned hoppers weren't exactly rare. Remember gathering enough coal in one weekend to fuel the campfires for most of the summer.
Corn spills brought in what seemed like swarms of crows and squirrels.

Posted by: IP at July 18, 2016 09:58 AM (Fol9S)

143 We used to steal the chrome tire caps to put on our bikes.Your peers looked down on you if you had black plastic caps.

Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2016 09:58 AM (B48dK)

144
Another American was reported killed in the Nice terror attack and 3 others have broken legs.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 09:58 AM (iQIUe)

145 Votermom -

There are guide books amd references for those things. Like everything, there is a market for them, and it is quite brisk.

(Pro-tip: back in the day, they used to use them as drainage fill when they'd place a new pole. We found them by the bushel whenever they were replacing a run of line.)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 18, 2016 09:59 AM (ROucc)

146 The Bad Neigborhood app was called Sketchy.

SJW's were on that like stink on a hippie, and I don't know if it's "still widely used.
For all the bitching about how racist it is/was, college kids used it a lot so as not to end their nights with "Do you mind if we dance wiff yo dates?"

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 18, 2016 09:59 AM (kKHcp)

147 Yes I still feel guilty today for that stupid sack of rice.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck

It would happen by accident sometimes. We had cars that had 190,000 pounds of sugar or cornsyrup in them. The bottom seal could be broken, but if anyone tried to open it from the bottom it would have gone all over the ground.
The top seal though...

Posted by: Bruce at July 18, 2016 09:59 AM (8ikIW)

148 Posted by: Bruce at July 18, 2016 09:54 AM (8ikIW)



Yes I still feel guilty today for that stupid sack of rice.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 18, 2016 09:55 AM (0QLpr)
=====One of the local small towns published the police blotter and I laughed like a loon because a boxcar was burgled and the perps made off with frozen broccoli -- probably worth quite a bit.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 18, 2016 10:00 AM (MIKMs)

149 I hear that train a-comin',
it's comin' round the bend,
and I ain't tasted hobo since
I don't know when.

But I got some tenderizer
and a pan to fry.
When I smell those hobos comin'
I lick my lips and smile.

Posted by: Zombie Johnny Cash at July 18, 2016 10:00 AM (BYSrJ)

150 @140

Turn it up.


http://tinyurl.com/jp4r6ao

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 10:01 AM (F1iXz)

151 The endless parade of Durant's defraudees.

Posted by: DaveA at July 18, 2016 10:01 AM (8J/Te)

152 Listen to the jingle, the rumble and the roar
As she glides along the woodland o'er the hills and by the shore
Hear the mighty rush of the engine hear those lonesome hoboes call
Traveling through the jungle on the Wabash Cannonball



Ain't no ham like Birmingham! Orange Blossom Special!

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 10:01 AM (m/IZ9)

153 I like the technique in the painting but the subject doesn't interest me much as art. I did like the humor in the title.

I looked up some of his other work. Many of his landscapes have an impressionist feel that is very appealing. He also did linocuts which is something that I want to learn.

Another thought provoking piece for the mid-day art thread. Thanks, CBD. I look forward to this thread every weekday.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2016 10:02 AM (V+03K)

154 Looks like great hobo hunting on that train.

Posted by: Sphynx at July 18, 2016 10:02 AM (OZmbA)

155 A pig just flew past the window and hell must have frozen over.

I agree with EVERY WORD of Leonard Pitt's column today:

http://tinyurl.com/zckc5wg

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 10:03 AM (1ZOkK)

156 The Bad Neigborhood app was called Sketchy.

SJW's were on that like stink on a hippie, and I don't know if it's "still widely used.



Comes up with drawing crap at the iphone app store.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 10:03 AM (m/IZ9)

157 IP -

Grew up in coal country. Heartbreaking seeing the old people walking along the tracks, picking up stray bits of coal that bounced out at the curves in the rail.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 18, 2016 10:05 AM (ROucc)

158 155
A pig just flew past the window and hell must have frozen over.

I agree with EVERY WORD of Leonard Pitt's column today:

http://tinyurl.com/zckc5wg


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 10:03 AM (1ZOkK)

Don't mean to throw sand on you, but no one is playing Pokemon at Auschwitz.

It hasn't been released in Poland.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 10:05 AM (F1iXz)

159 Hobo lives matter.

Posted by: Sphynx at July 18, 2016 10:05 AM (OZmbA)

160 The Bad Neigborhood app was called Sketchy.

SJW's were on that like stink on a hippie, and I don't know if it's "still widely used.



Hordesource an app called "skeevy".
LOL

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 10:05 AM (m/IZ9)

161 HOBOS?

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 18, 2016 10:06 AM (wmxwV)

162 Comes up with drawing crap at the iphone app store.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 10:03 AM (m/IZ9)

My mistake. It may be called SketchFactor.
My neice (who really is my neice, Devious) just called it Sketchy.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 18, 2016 10:07 AM (kKHcp)

163 We need a FPS game with hobos in trains like this

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 18, 2016 10:07 AM (wmxwV)

164 NY Slime lede? Killer was X Marine.



So why not "Killer belonged to Nation of Islam"?



Anti military propaganda.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 10:07 AM (F1iXz)

165 Is it just me or did the stylesheet disappear?

Posted by: Sphynx at July 18, 2016 10:07 AM (OZmbA)

166 I used to play SimCity a lot.

In the bad part of your town, the buildings would all just sort of turn themselves into tenements.

And the ghetto dwellers were always bitching about shit, especially cops.

Just like real life, except the Sims always wanted MORE cops.

I was not a benevolent dictator. If they refused to get jobs I turned off their water and electricity.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 18, 2016 10:07 AM (s/EUv)

167 Other memories:

Chemical tankers - always sorta spooked me.

Cabooses - I remember them.....chimneys and all...

Worst of all - the refrig and medical cars; when you saw those, you knew something awful had happened in the coalfields...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 18, 2016 10:07 AM (ROucc)

168 If you're headed to the north side of Cleveland you will definitely need a paddle to get yourself out.

Posted by: MTF at July 18, 2016 10:07 AM (/m8T6)

169 Hobo lives matter.

Posted by: Sphynx


What are you, some kind of dirty crossbowist Scandi?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 18, 2016 10:08 AM (9krrF)

170 Niece, neice, whatever.
I'd rather screw up once in a while than have auto-cucumber make comedy for me.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 18, 2016 10:08 AM (kKHcp)

171
Ray Donovan was disappointing. So sick of his creepy family. Enough already! People liked the show bc it dealt with the rich and famous - not because of a bunch of irish alkie child abuse victims.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 10:08 AM (iQIUe)

172 It's back!

Posted by: Sphynx at July 18, 2016 10:08 AM (OZmbA)

173 Here is a video from last night of Sheriff David Clarke bitch slapping and damn near making Don Lemon of CNN cry.

http://tinyurl.com/zxwo9wx

Posted by: Taiwan_Joe at July 18, 2016 10:08 AM (sy8f2)

174 Pitts was writing about idiots playing Pokemon Go at the Holocaust Museum, the 9/11 Memorial, and in Arlington.

Seriously.

I hate people (some of them).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 10:09 AM (1ZOkK)

175 I like that work though now I have the urge to read the Boxcar Children books.

That piece has somewhat of a Remington vibe to me but that doesn't really carry over to some of his other works. Maybe it's the subject and the lighting? I'm not sure.

Take this:

http://www.ogden4arts.org/d907_hr.jpg

That has almost a Gauguin feel to it, mainly by the colors.

Or maybe that's just me.

Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 18, 2016 10:10 AM (mf5HN)

176 Slow Joe Biden was a railroad flack
He climbed on a boxcar and didn't look back
He made being sleazy
look incredibly easy
Though he'd long ago run off the track

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2016 10:10 AM (lHb9q)

177 173
Here is a video from last night of Sheriff David Clarke bitch slapping and damn near making Don Lemon of CNN cry.



http://tinyurl.com/zxwo9wx

Posted by: Taiwan_Joe at July 18, 2016 10:08 AM (sy8f2)


Husband and I watched that last night. I thought my husband would hurt his Precious (TV).

Sadly, Sheriff Clarke wasn't armed with the facts he needed to shut Don Lemon up. I was literally yelling them at the TV.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 10:10 AM (1ZOkK)

178 Have to admit, I heard Roger Miller's 'King of the Road' while looking at the painting. It also reminded me of stories about a very young Louis L'Amour who lived that life in the 20s and 30s.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2016 10:11 AM (V+03K)

179 OneEyedJack -

Hey, now.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 18, 2016 10:11 AM (ROucc)

180 This is art I like and can appreciate. Very nice.

Posted by: Weasel at July 18, 2016 10:12 AM (6xtq3)

181 My baby thinks she's a train. She'll give any old bum a ride.

Posted by: Asleep at the Wheel at July 18, 2016 10:12 AM (FpN8r)

182 I think rail cars filled with cases of beer were the real target.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 18, 2016 10:13 AM (0QLpr)

183 "What a Pleasant Journey"

http://tinyurl.com/huz9jyl

From MST3K.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 18, 2016 10:13 AM (u0s1P)

184 My sister had twins.

Named one Denise


Named the other one De Nephew.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2016 10:13 AM (lHb9q)

185 Grew up in coal country. Heartbreaking seeing the
old people walking along the tracks, picking up stray bits of coal that
bounced out at the curves in the rail.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem
Applicants at July 18, 2016 10:05 AM (ROucc)
__________________________________


I bet it was. We had a coal fired power plant in town as most of the towns around us
did. I can remember coal chutes on the outside of houses and fuel oil
drums inside too. All that seems like forever ago now.

Thinking as a kid I didn't grasp the whole of it. The various people we'd meet walking the tracks down to the river and back were just "people". Some were friendly, and some weren't. We couldn't have been 10 when we'd head out on the old abandoned interurban line, off to go fishing. If we were to do that today, mom and dad would get locked up.



Posted by: IP at July 18, 2016 10:14 AM (Fol9S)

186 Here is a video from last night of Sheriff David Clarke bitch slapping and damn near making Don Lemon of CNN cry.

Watching that makes you realize that 99% of these news shows are people parroting talking points like robots. Clarke immediately cuts through the crap and begins speaking like a human being and doesn't follow the programmed exchange, and Lemon is completely flat-footed.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 18, 2016 10:14 AM (3hIZX)

187 Painting looks like Kern Valley NE of Fresno ~1935.

Is it?

Posted by: Rod at July 18, 2016 10:16 AM (pZCCu)

188 My dad taught me this:

The peanut sat on the railroad track
His heart was all a-flutter
Along came the 2:15
Toot-toot!
Peanut butter.

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 10:17 AM (7lVbc)

189 I saw Flat-footed Lemon open for Smashing Pumpkins in '92 at Dole Center Civic Arena.

There wasn't a sour note in the entire set.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2016 10:17 AM (lHb9q)

190 Buenos pendejos, everybody.


Moved cows this morning. Went fine. I fell down on some rocks carrying a bag of feed. Then dad fell down on the same rocks. He thought he was seriously wounded, He wasn't. A little blood on the chin.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 18, 2016 10:17 AM (9ym/8)

191 Toot-toot!
Peanut butter.

***

Nice! Here's another one:


Ooey-gooey was a worm
A woolly worm was he
He crawled atop the railroad track
To wee what he could see

A train was coming very near
But Ooey-gooey could not hear...


...Ooery-gooey!!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2016 10:19 AM (lHb9q)

192 Watching that makes you realize that 99% of these news shows are people parroting talking points like robots. Clarke immediately cuts through the crap and begins speaking like a human being and doesn't follow the programmed exchange, and Lemon is completely flat-footed.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 18, 2016 10:14 AM (3hIZX)

There's a great post a Zman's blog that puts this in perspective.

http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=8059

Well worth a read.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 18, 2016 10:19 AM (kKHcp)

193 There are guide books amd references for those things. Like everything, there is a market for them, and it is quite brisk.

--

Uncle P, I don't have them - just remember them from when I used to play with hisi stuff as a kid.
Also played with asbestos insulated cables. I don't think I chewed on any.

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 10:19 AM (7lVbc)

194

It's Boxcar Willie !

http://www.boxcarwillie.com/

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 10:19 AM (IqV8l)

195 One of my earliest memories is from when my dad took me to a site where a bunch of coal cars had overturned in a river valley. Coal and coal cars everywhere.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 18, 2016 10:22 AM (Nwg0u)

196 "Am I the only one who would very much enjoy taking a vacation where I'd just start driving and don't really care where I end up?

Posted by: joe"

Done that, it can be a lot of fun.
Situational awareness is always important, specially on unfamiliar ground.
Interstates are okay for getting places in a hurry, but American life is lived out on the secondary & tertiary roads.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at July 18, 2016 10:22 AM (3X3ZR)

197 Hillary! sees those boxcars and gets "ideas."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 10:22 AM (1ZOkK)

198 Drudge main headline..

I can't even express the rage I'm feeling right now..


The man is garbage...

Posted by: Kreplach at July 18, 2016 10:22 AM (3Xxpy)

199 Watching that clip, I was surprised Sheriff Clarke didn't make Lemonade out of Lemon. He would have been well withing his rights to squeeze that little shit.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 18, 2016 10:23 AM (jxDGU)

200 196 "Am I the only one who would very much enjoy taking a vacation where I'd just start driving and don't really care where I end up?

Posted by: joe"


The wife and I do that all the time. Long weekends with no plans, just jump in the car and drive.

Posted by: jwest at July 18, 2016 10:24 AM (Zs4uk)

201 175 Take this:

http://www.ogden4arts.org/d907_hr.jpg

That has almost a Gauguin feel to it, mainly by the colors.
===========================

Are they really stacking green hay in that picture?

That won't end well. Maybe park those cars another fifty yards away and the fire might burn down enough to keep the gas tanks from going too.

Posted by: MTF at July 18, 2016 10:25 AM (/m8T6)

202 And my ever-changing hash still says I'm the Fapinator.

Posted by: davidt at July 18, 2016 10:26 AM (FpN8r)

203 66 ... Joe wrote "Am I the only one who would very much enjoy taking a vacation where I'd just start driving and don't really care where I end up?"

If Mrs. JTB and I ever take a relaxed driving trip it would be using the small local and state roads, no timetable or even a single destination. Avoid the Interstates and cities, avoid high speed limits, take the time and use a pace that lets us see the people and the land. I know, I know, echoes of Steinbeck's "Travels With Charley". I always loved the idea of owning my version of his camper truck, Rocinante.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2016 10:26 AM (V+03K)

204 Take this:

http://www.ogden4arts.org/d907_hr.jpg

That has almost a Gauguin feel to it, mainly by the colors.

Or maybe that's just me.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits



It has Gauguin colors, but I see the machinery.

I have a conflicted relationship with the 30s. I love what happened in photography but there was a lot of politics mixed in with that.

And whatever the politics I'm still moved by the whole movement of industrial photography.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 10:27 AM (1xUj/)

205 Just when I think that what comes out of TFG's mouth can't get any worse he spews something worse. At some event yesterday, he made a comment that the Police can make their jobs safer once they admit their failures.

Stunningly bad. I am looking now for the exact quote.

Posted by: Cheri at July 18, 2016 10:27 AM (oiNtH)

206 Clarke immediately cuts through the crap

-
Speaking of crap, didja see Obozo saying police can make the job of being a cop a lot safe' by admitting their failures?
See Drudge.

P.S. I just like to remind you all that nothing is ever Obozo's fault. He just works here.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 18, 2016 10:27 AM (Nwg0u)

207 "I can't even express the rage I'm feeling right now.. "


Sometimes idiots are in control. Gird and protect as much as you can. There will be a correction.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 18, 2016 10:28 AM (9ym/8)

208
I always loved the idea of owning my version of his camper truck, Rocinante.
Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2016 10:26 AM


You could call it Brad.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 10:28 AM (IqV8l)

209 I love road trips. Haven't taken one in ages.

When son was young, we drove from Chicago to Denver to meet husband for a convention he was attending.

Stopped in little towns along the way. Saw John Wayne's birthplace and one of the bridges in Madison County, and the Gateway to the West.

While husband was in a meeting, I drove up to Estes Park. Made it back to Denver just before the major road was closed due to a wild fire.

Good times. Really.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 10:29 AM (1ZOkK)

210 I like Sheriff Clarke. I saw a tweet from his saying that if he were FBI director he would arrest Hillary.

Paging President Trump!

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 10:29 AM (7lVbc)

211 Drudge main headline..

I can't even express the rage I'm feeling right now..


The man is garbage...
Posted by: Kreplach at July 18, 2016 10:22 AM (3Xxpy)

Drudge is a little misleading this time. The article is from the 11th and refers to TFGs comments regarding Dallas, not Baton Rouge.

But have no fear, I'm sure he'll say something equally angering about this latest one.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 18, 2016 10:29 AM (kKHcp)

212 210: If I were Trump, I'd hire him t run the FBI!

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 10:30 AM (Lyh9/)

213 TFG reminded us (re Baton Rouge) not to "jump to conclusions."

Unlike the Cambridge police, St. Trayvon, and Gentle Giant Michael Brown.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 10:30 AM (1ZOkK)

214 IP, did your wife get her test results back yet? Tell us some good news.

Posted by: bluebell at July 18, 2016 10:31 AM (805dc)

215 I see on Drudge that TFG is calling on Americans other than him to "Avoid Divisive Rhetoric"

Posted by: MTF at July 18, 2016 10:31 AM (/m8T6)

216 It has Gauguin colors, but I see the machinery.

I have a conflicted relationship with the 30s. I love what happened in photography but there was a lot of politics mixed in with that.

And whatever the politics I'm still moved by the whole movement of industrial photography.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 10:27 AM (1xUj/)


It's mainly the colors that triggers that association for me.


I find industrial photography fascinating if only because the sheer immensity of many of the machines is awe inspiring.

Here's a link to photos of abandoned industrial sites:

http://bit.ly/1D7jHsw

I am Ozymandias . . . .

Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 18, 2016 10:31 AM (mf5HN)

217 You can almost hear the dialog in that picture.

"Can I still tend the rabbits, George? I didn't mean no harm, George."

Posted by: Damiano at July 18, 2016 10:32 AM (71OEY)

218 " I like Sheriff Clarke. I saw a tweet from his saying that if he were FBI director he would arrest Hillary. "



Sheriff Clark. Mike Brown. I'd hire them both.


Good people.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 18, 2016 10:33 AM (9ym/8)

219 208
I always loved the idea of owning my version of his camper truck, Rocinante.
Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2016 10:26 AM

You could call it Brad.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 10:28 AM (IqV8l)




But you'd only get 3/4's of what he's worth!

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 10:33 AM (m/IZ9)

220 And if you actually strung telegraph wires tightly stretched like that they'd break in a matter of days.
"sag" in wire installations is necessary, and the subject of careful calculation and measurement.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at July 18, 2016 10:33 AM (3X3ZR)

221 I'm no archaeologist but I am pretty sure this picture depicts a time before the invention of spray paint.

Posted by: ajmojo at July 18, 2016 10:34 AM (1H9ox)

222 And if you actually strung telegraph wires tightly stretched like that they'd break in a matter of days.




Injuns would cut it.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 10:35 AM (m/IZ9)

223 I like Sheriff Clark, and wouldn't mind him serving in a Trump admin, even though he's a registered dem.

Posted by: GMan at July 18, 2016 10:35 AM (sxq57)

224 "Sheriff Clark. Mike Brown. I'd hire them both. "



David Brown.


Shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 18, 2016 10:37 AM (9ym/8)

225 No road trips in my near future. Considering the closing of windows, probably not in my future at all.

I hate this century.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 18, 2016 10:37 AM (9krrF)

226 I like Sheriff Clark, and wouldn't mind him serving in a Trump admin, even though he's a registered dem.


I'll take his "dem" over some RINO's.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 10:37 AM (m/IZ9)

227 Moved cows this morning. Went fine. I fell down on some rocks carrying a bag of feed. Then dad fell down on the same rocks. He thought he was seriously wounded, He wasn't. A little blood on the chin.


That reads like poetry to me.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 10:38 AM (1xUj/)

228 Another Baltimore cop found not guilty.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 18, 2016 10:38 AM (r1fLd)

229 223: I bet he's a dem for the same reason my granddaddy was: Strictly for electoral purposes.

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 10:38 AM (Lyh9/)

230 I like Sheriff Clark, and wouldn't mind him serving in a Trump admin, even though he's a registered dem.
...
Paul Ryan is apparently a registered Republican.

Posted by: ajmojo at July 18, 2016 10:38 AM (1H9ox)

231 Was Prez'nit Barky "Shitstain" Sir-Golfs-A-Lot the Petulant C*nt's nostril whistling during the statement, or did he merely regally lift his nose into the air dismissively when reading from his TelePrompTer?

It's funny when he does that last, because though his IQ is reportedly in the 300s, he almost always loses his place and mispronounces his own name.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 10:38 AM (CS7jF)

232 That reads like poetry to me.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 10:38 AM (1xUj/)
------------------

Cowboy poetry.

Posted by: bluebell at July 18, 2016 10:39 AM (805dc)

233 227 Moved cows this morning. Went fine. I fell down on some rocks carrying a bag of feed. Then dad fell down on the same rocks. He thought he was seriously wounded, He wasn't. A little blood on the chin.


That reads like poetry to me.




Poetry? Put it to music and you'd have an old school country song.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 10:39 AM (m/IZ9)

234 Are they really stacking green hay in that picture?



That won't end well. Maybe park those cars another fifty yards away
and the fire might burn down enough to keep the gas tanks from going
too.
Posted by: MTF at July 18, 2016 10:25 AM (/m8T6)


Field peas.

(I cheated, I looked. I guessed alfalfa)

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2016 10:39 AM (ry34m)

235 The other thing that catches my eye in this painting is the angle of the sunlight. The light shines through both open doors on the boxcar, showing through in the shadow of the boxcar on the ground. But the shadow of the guy sitting on top of the boxcar over to the right, is not cast onto the top of the car, but onto the ground, with the gap between his body and arm clearly seen. That seems out of whack to me.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2016 10:39 AM (lHb9q)

236
IP, did your wife get her test results back yet? Tell us some good news.
Posted by: bluebell at July 18, 2016 10:31 AM (805dc)
__________________________________


She did. It's what they are calling a "moderate concern" and the cells are "pre-cancerous".

She goes in this Friday to have them removed, and will have six month checkups for the next two years to monitor things.
Not the worst news to be sure, but it's still a little stressed in the IP house.
Thank you all for your prayers and kind words. It means so much to us both.

Posted by: IP at July 18, 2016 10:40 AM (Fol9S)

237 In 2025, al-Amerika will have that mode of travel, except for our rulers. And those infidel hobos will get a death penalty as runaways. Dred Scott 2.0.

Posted by: Eromero at July 18, 2016 10:41 AM (zLDYs)

238 My first "first!" Oh happy day! Love the painting, too.
Posted by: Shoeless 'ron at July 18, 2016 09:15 AM


They say you never forget your first.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2016 10:41 AM (AEEhl)

239 "I'll take his "dem" over some RINO's."



Word.


Good man.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 18, 2016 10:41 AM (9ym/8)

240 In Illinois at least, party registrations seem to be a function of geography rather than ideology. I live in a suburb far from Chicago, so I am historically R. Someone from an inner suburb would historically be D. nb - 'suburb' flexible because all of northeastern IL and northwestern IN is somehow lumped into Chicago.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 18, 2016 10:42 AM (MIKMs)

241 IP, that's pretty good news, considering what else it could be! Hopefully she will feel much better about things after Friday's procedure, once the bad stuff is removed. Thanks for the update.

Posted by: bluebell at July 18, 2016 10:42 AM (805dc)

242 Take me right back to the track

Posted by: Jack at July 18, 2016 10:44 AM (QM5S2)

243 "sag" ... is necessary, and the subject of careful calculation and measurement.

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 18, 2016 10:44 AM (AEEhl)

244 Posted by: IP at July 18, 2016 10:40 AM (Fol9S)

I'd call that good news too. Will continue to pray for Mrs P.

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 10:45 AM (7lVbc)

245 More good news from over seas.

http://tinyurl.com/hvk4n3h

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 18, 2016 10:45 AM (Nwg0u)

246 Got to get the Family Thruster off the interstate and ask how to get somewhere, days before GPS...but GPS doesn't know the bad areas from the good areas in any city...

Posted by: Colin at July 18, 2016 10:46 AM (HQP2c)

247
Just when I think that what comes out of TFG's mouth can't get any worse he spews something worse. At some event yesterday, he made a comment that the Police can make their jobs safer once they admit their failures.


Sheriff Clark is scheduled to speak at the RNC. I hope he tears the dog-eating crackhead three new assholes.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 18, 2016 10:47 AM (X6fMO)

248 Injuns would cut it.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 10:35 AM


That is hurtful and triggering.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at July 18, 2016 10:47 AM (AEEhl)

249 More good news from over seas.

http://tinyurl.com/hvk4n3h

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 18, 2016 10:45 AM (Nwg0u)


Well, that story has me leaning in a particular direction in the old "Japan: Nuked Too Much, Or Not Enough?" question.

Can you guess which way?

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 10:48 AM (CS7jF)

250 "That is hurtful and triggering.
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren"



Could you just..........shut up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 18, 2016 10:49 AM (9ym/8)

251
"That is hurtful and triggering.
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren"



Could you just..........shut up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 18, 2016 10:49 AM (9ym/








And how.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2016 10:50 AM (T6P0y)

252 245 More good news from over seas.

http://tinyurl.com/hvk4n3h

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 18, 2016 10:45 AM (Nwg0u)

That the Japs, TFG, and the Don Lemons of this world function day-to-day as they insist on creating, perpetuating and believing completely false narratives of reality is astonishing. That so many in the general public swallow this BS is even more astonishing.

Somebody, make it stop.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 18, 2016 10:51 AM (oQQwD)

253
GPS doesn't know the bad areas from the good areas in any city...
Posted by: Colin at July 18, 2016 10:46 AM


I believe there used to be a smartphone app that gave that kind of information but it was banned because of you know what.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 10:51 AM (IqV8l)

254 That is hurtful and triggering.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at July 18, 2016 10:47 AM (AEEhl)



Warren will be on the war path at the dem. convention....probably waving the tomahawk at Trump...I still have a feeling she will be the VP candidate.

Posted by: Colin at July 18, 2016 10:51 AM (HQP2c)

255 Straightest telephone/telegraph lines I ever seen.

Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2016 10:51 AM (Bdeb0)

256 Why is the Baton Rouge cop killer referred to as a "former Marine" rather a current Islamic?

How does the Marine angle play into this? It doesn't.

I mean, he was also a former high school student and a former something-or-other.

Don't tell me what they used to be. Tell who THEY ARE TODAY!

Crappy journalism.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 18, 2016 10:51 AM (4AVeu)

257 A Street Car Named Desire

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 18, 2016 10:51 AM (3zt5o)

258 I like this painting, but I like almost anything railroad. My present husband, my late husband, my father-in-law and I all worked for C and O/CSX. My grandfather worked for the Nickel Plate. It's in our blood I guess.

I always have thought it a million to one coincidence that both my father and my oldest son never met their dad's, as they were each born a few month's after their parent's death in a RR work-related accident.

Posted by: cfomahm at July 18, 2016 10:52 AM (RfzVr)

259 my ever-changing hash still says I'm the Fapinator.
Posted by: davidt at July 18, 2016 10:26 AM (FpN8r)


AoSHQ royalty, parsecs beyond Platinum Membership!

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at July 18, 2016 10:53 AM (AEEhl)

260 Crappy journalism.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 18, 2016 10:51 AM (4AVeu)

Or is it journalism in pursuit of an agenda?

Calling it crappy lets them off the hook.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 18, 2016 10:53 AM (kKHcp)

261 Why is the Baton Rouge cop killer referred to as a "former Marine" rather a current Islamic?
....
I assume this is a rhetorical question as you surely know the answer.

Posted by: ajmojo at July 18, 2016 10:53 AM (1H9ox)

262 I've never believed that Captain John Smith/Pocohauntus story. Sure, that's how he checked into the motel but isn't his name just a little too convenient?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 18, 2016 10:55 AM (Nwg0u)

263 Sheriff Clark is scheduled to speak at the RNC. I hope he tears the dog-eating crackhead three new assholes.


Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 18, 2016 10:47 AM (X6fMO)
=============================================

He is? Wow - that's wonderful! I think the last time something like that happened was Zell Miller.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 18, 2016 10:57 AM (dFi94)

264 What this the Japs do? Link won't load on my tablet.

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 10:58 AM (7lVbc)

265 " I've never believed that Captain John Smith/Pocohauntus story. Sure, that's how he checked into the motel but isn't his name just a little too convenient?"



Ah Hell. Have a drink. Drop your seed.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 18, 2016 10:58 AM (9ym/8)

266 I assume this is a rhetorical question as you surely know the answer.
______________________

Yes.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 18, 2016 10:58 AM (4AVeu)

267 LeConte Stewart was from northern Utah. Love his watercolor landscapes.

Posted by: Elliot m. at July 18, 2016 10:59 AM (vPhnb)

268 Is that a monorail?

Posted by: Homer at July 18, 2016 10:59 AM (FpN8r)

269 "That is hurtful and triggering.
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren"



Could you just..........shut up.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill

Back off, Paleface. She's the real deal.

Posted by: Ward Churchill at July 18, 2016 11:00 AM (8zvUY)

270 TFG: "There are legitimate issues being raised and there's data and evidence to back up the concerns that are being expressed by these protestors."

Really? From what I see, cops occasionally shoot people who assault them or pull guns on them. When that happens, there is always an investigation to determine if correct procedure followed and the officer had a legitimate reason to use deadly force. If not, then the cop is prosecuted.

That seems good enough if a white guy gets shot but as soon as a black guy gets shot, the usual race baiters and "community" groups immediately jump on social media, drum up protests, and a bunch of useful idiots take to the streets and start screaming for vengeance and "justice".

The data I see shows that the vast majority of people killed by guns are black people who are killed by other black people. Less than 1% are killed by cops and 100% of the recent incidents that have erupted into national "conversations" and violence, the officers involved were cleared of any wrongdoing.

The facts that I see are that the President of the United States has repeatedly made baseless accusations that police "acted stupidly" without any facts to support that accusation. When the facts do come out, it is conclusively shown that he is as bad or worse than the Twitter mobs he hopes to "organize."

What I see is that the black community has been and continues to be targeted by political and related organizations that intentionally stoke racial hatred for the purpose of political gain and personal income. I see that these "leaders" and groups have consistently failed to make any measurable improvement whatsoever in any of the communities that they claim to serve. The people are worse off while the "leaders" get elected to lifetime public office or get million dollar contracts on networks and from universities where they get paid a salary yet aren't required to show up for work.

You know where else you find no work union jobs? The mafia. Funny that, huh? Go figure, the people who follow Saul Alinskey tactics end up functioning exactly like the mob organizations that Saul learned from and the results are identical.

The only difference is that the mob got prosecuted and wasn't able to hide behind accusation of "racism". If anyone should be crying about unequal treatment under the law, targeting by law enforcement, and being killed in large numbers by cops, it should be the mob.

Posted by: Damiano at July 18, 2016 11:00 AM (71OEY)

271 I read that piece on Japan and thought, "Huh. I guess two nukes weren't enough."

I refuse to denounce myself.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:00 AM (1ZOkK)

272 LaConte is an unusual first name. I don't think I've ever met a LaConte.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 18, 2016 11:00 AM (dFi94)

273 >>>>GPS doesn't know the bad areas from the good areas in any city...

Posted by: Colin at July 18, 2016 10:46 AM



I believe there used to be a smartphone app that gave that kind of information but it was banned because of you know what.
.
.
.
.Yep, the DOJ back doored that App and killed it because it would steer people away from black neighborhoods. Plus the fact that two people of the group trying to campaign to get it shut down got mugged when they were in a "bad" neighborhood trying to prove it was "racist".

Irony can be pretty ironic at times.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 11:00 AM (iONHu)

274 261 Why is the Baton Rouge cop killer referred to as a "former Marine" rather a current Islamic?
_______________________________

Same stuff with the former Army carpenter who killed the Dallas policeman. A current Black Panther counts more than a former Army carpenter.

Just saying. People need to call the media out on this shit.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 18, 2016 11:01 AM (4AVeu)

275 258. Hail to the railroad workers families. Dad, brother and uncle were Grand Trunk RR employees. Brother died for his love of the RR 40 years ago on 7/14.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at July 18, 2016 11:01 AM (PjWy4)

276 Sheriff Clark is scheduled to speak at the RNC.

I hope he tears the dog-eating crackhead three new assholes.



Me too!
-Reggie

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 11:01 AM (m/IZ9)

277 Fox is going with the Marine veteran meme for the killer.

Jeebus. If he were a tranny EX-Marine, I wonder how they'd treat him?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:02 AM (1ZOkK)

278 What this the Japs do? Link won't load on my tablet.

-
They are amending their US-imposed constitution to re-deify the emperor, end free speech, deny their war crimes, view themselves as the victims of WWII, and seek thanks for liberating much of South East Asia.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 18, 2016 11:02 AM (Nwg0u)

279 Crappy journalism.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 18, 2016 10:51 AM (4AVeu)

Or is it journalism in pursuit of an agenda?

Calling it crappy lets them off the hook.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 18, 2016 10:53 AM (kKHcp)




Never ascribe to stupidity what can adequately be explained by malice.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 11:02 AM (evdj2)

280 What this the Japs do? Link won't load on my tablet.
Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 10:58 AM (7lVbc)


They have gone full 1930 again.

They are blaming Western concepts of natural rights for the ills that were caused by cronyism, outright theft and fiat money.

Like in the 30's

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2016 11:02 AM (ry34m)

281 You could call it Brad.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 10:28 AM (IqV8l)

That girl scares me. She doesn't seem stable.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 18, 2016 11:02 AM (WVeiZ)

282
"That is hurtful and triggering.
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren"



Could you just..........shut up.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill

Back off, Paleface. She's the real deal.

Posted by: Ward Churchill at July 18, 2016 11:00 AM (8zvUY)









Word, brother.

Posted by: Zombie Iron Eyes Cody at July 18, 2016 11:02 AM (T6P0y)

283 "How does the Marine angle play into this? It doesn't."

Several ways; Bush gave them all PTSD with his Elective Wars & terrorists can be anybody-memes.

Obama says to tamp down the rhetoric. That's almost a self-denunciation like the Memphis editor who had to recant "Gunman Targets Whites" headline.

But he means your rhetoric, not his. He can give his "I Have A Motive" speeches all day long, but you need to shut up and let him play the back nine in peace.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 18, 2016 11:03 AM (Ndje9)

284 @votermom:

The Japanese prime minister belongs to a group that Champions Japan as the heroes of World War II, and they are in the process of changing their constitution to get rid of Western ideas of the sanctity of life and to democracy and other such things that stand in the way of their rebirth as a regional power.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 11:03 AM (E0BtF)

285 "Back off, Paleface. She's the real deal."



*Stands back.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 18, 2016 11:03 AM (9ym/8)

286 Grand Funk Railroad

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 11:04 AM (IqV8l)

287 Somebody, make it stop.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 18, 2016 10:51 AM (oQQwD)

If only we had a high profile public figure standing against the professional liars in the media.

Posted by: Phone of kari at July 18, 2016 11:04 AM (FrpSj)

288 They are amending their US-imposed constitution to re-deify the emperor,
end free speech, deny their war crimes, view themselves as the victims
of WWII, and seek thanks for liberating much of South East Asia.
===================================


Seriously? They're going to worship the head politician? Where are they? - Ancient Rome? Egypt maybe?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 18, 2016 11:04 AM (dFi94)

289 http://www.ogden4arts.org/d907_hr.jpg
That has almost a Gauguin feel to it, mainly by the colors.
Or maybe that's just me.
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits

It has Gauguin colors, but I see the machinery.
I have a conflicted relationship with the 30s. I love what happened in photography but there was a lot of politics mixed in with that.
And whatever the politics I'm still moved by the whole movement of industrial photography.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 10:27 AM (1xUj/)


I think I see what you're talking about. It's got that WPA/government subsidized/"art for the public good" vibe to it.

Colors are indeed nice, though.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:04 AM (HA9zO)

290 That girl scares me. She doesn't seem stable.


#8seconds

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 11:04 AM (evdj2)

291 TFG:'...if police organizations and departments acknowledge that there's a problem and there's an issue, that that, too, is going to contribute to real solutions. And, as I said yesterday, that is what is going to ultimately help make the job of being a cop a lot safer."

Shorter TFG: 'Admit that you are all a bunch of racists that get off on hassling and killing black people and, maybe, we will stop killing you"

Huh... sounds a lot like our foreign policy and ISIS/ Al Queda's modus operandi.

Posted by: Damiano at July 18, 2016 11:04 AM (71OEY)

292 It appears Jeff Flake thinks a Muslim immigration ban is racist and all those who support such a thing must be purged from the GOP.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/17/republican-senator-purge-trump-supporters-from-gop/

Considering the polls say around 52% America support a Muslim immigration ban now, and it is probably higher if you count those that want to ban people coming in from countries that all happen to be majority Muslim countries...I guess America will need to purged to Jeff Flake happy and his Globalist donors.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 18, 2016 11:05 AM (KhJh8)

293 284 @votermom:

The Japanese prime minister belongs to a group that Champions Japan as the heroes of World War II, and they are in the process of changing their constitution to get rid of Western ideas of the sanctity of life and to democracy and other such things that stand in the way of their rebirth as a regional power.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 11:03 AM (E0BtF)

Them & China are gonna have lots of fun in the coming years.

Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 11:05 AM (7HtZB)

294 Back off, Paleface. She's the real deal.
Posted by: Ward Churchill at July 18, 2016 11:00 AM


And how!

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at July 18, 2016 11:05 AM (AEEhl)

295
The Japanese prime minister belongs to a group that Champions Japan as the heroes of World War II, and they are in the process of changing their constitution to get rid of Western ideas of the sanctity of life and to democracy and other such things that stand in the way of their rebirth as a regional power.

But if the youth of Japan would rather play video games than reproduce...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 11:05 AM (IqV8l)

296 Capt. Clay Higgins is running for congress in the LA-3. Any of you Acadiana Morons know if he has a chance? Might send a few bucks his way.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 18, 2016 11:05 AM (8zvUY)

297 No point in a "hood finder" app anymore, really. With Section 8, "the hood" can be anywhere.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 18, 2016 11:06 AM (9krrF)

298 Our local BLM idiots had another march yesterday.

Their leader says they're going to start a BLM church.

I wonder how that works?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:06 AM (1ZOkK)

299 281 You could call it Brad.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 10:28 AM (IqV8l)

That girl scares me. She doesn't seem stable.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 18, 2016 11:02 AM (WVeiZ)

Now you why I slammed into the tree.

Posted by: Brad at July 18, 2016 11:06 AM (7HtZB)

300 Seriously? They're going to worship the head politician? Where are they? - Ancient Rome? Egypt maybe?


Posted by: grammie winger at July 18, 2016 11:04 AM (dFi94)

Washington DC?

Posted by: barack at July 18, 2016 11:06 AM (FpN8r)

301 'Admit that you are all a bunch of racists that get off on hassling and
killing black people and, maybe, we will stop killing you"
==========================================


Alternate translation: Her skirt was too short.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 18, 2016 11:06 AM (dFi94)

302 In other words, it looks like they're about to go "Full Tojo".

Forgetting, it would seem, what we taught them at the end of World War 2 with Little Boy and Fat Man:

*Rob't Downey Jr voice, imitating Japanese warlord*:

"You never go 'Full Tojo'. . ."

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 11:06 AM (E0BtF)

303 The powder-keg that is Baltimore City awaits the arrival of the lit fuse: Breaking: Lt. Rice NOT GUILTY of all counts in #FreddieGray case.

Verdict was ready Friday, waited until today to announce. This past weekend was ArtScape (big event downtown - lots of suburbia in town).

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at July 18, 2016 11:06 AM (laQYo)

304 "Word, brother.
Posted by: Zombie Iron Eyes Cody"




Iron Eyes Cody is a good sum sumbitch.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 18, 2016 11:07 AM (9ym/8)

305 The railroad hobo is just a clown's larval stage.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 18, 2016 11:07 AM (VdICR)

306 208
I always loved the idea of owning my version of his camper truck, Rocinante.
Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2016 10:26 AM

You could call it Brad.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 10:28 AM (IqV8l)


Bradley IFV? the M2? OK....

Posted by: Don Q. at July 18, 2016 11:07 AM (qf6WZ)

307 Old Harland's goat was feeling fine,
Ate three red shirts right off the line.
Old Harland gave his goat a whack and tied him to the railroad track. The whistle blew, the train drew nigh, Old Harland's goat was sure to die.
He gave three groans of mortal pain, coughed up the shirts and flagged the train.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at July 18, 2016 11:07 AM (Ceh5y)

308 The Japanese PM is denying the Rape of Nanking ever occurred, among other things.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:07 AM (1ZOkK)

309 Emergency cute kitten with railroad ties (heh heh):

http://www.cohs.org/history/chessie.shtml

I remember the kitten calendars from when I was young.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 18, 2016 11:08 AM (MIKMs)

310 Apocryphal RR story: As you may know, there was a high-profile merger/acquisition in the late 1990s called the "Conrail Split," where Norfolk Southern (NS) and CSX took over Conrail. The Conrail guys were used to a more "relaxed" work environment than NS, which is pretty straightlaced by RR standards--no earrings, no long hair, etc. So, the rumor: A lot of the NS engines didn't have flushable toilets; they had commodes with plastic bags, and you were supposed to retain until the next stop. The annexed Conrail guys were already peeved; they started throwing the full bags out on the right-of-way instead of disposing properly. NS, angered, insisted on printing employees' ID numbers on the bags they issued so they could punish violators. Conrail guys responded by turning the bags inside out and then using them...

I don't know if it was true, but it seemed pretty funny at the time...

Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2016 11:08 AM (Bdeb0)

311 Back off, Paleface. She's the real deal.
Posted by: Ward Churchill at July 18, 2016 11:00 AM

And how!
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at July 18, 2016 11:05 AM (AEEhl)




Hey-how-are-ya! Hey-how-are-ya! Hey-how-are-ya!

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 11:08 AM (m/IZ9)

312 Iron Eyes Cody was the Shaun King of Indians.

Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2016 11:08 AM (B48dK)

313 Our local BLM idiots had another march yesterday.

Their leader says they're going to start a BLM church.

I wonder how that works?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:06 AM (1ZOkK)

Well, you send us a form and become entirely tax exempt and immune from several forms of prosecution! No questions asked!...

...unless your group has anything about "tea", "freedom", or "constitution" in it's name. Then you are a terrorist organization and we forward your application to DHS, begin monitoring you, and start auditing everyone in your group.

Posted by: IRS at July 18, 2016 11:09 AM (71OEY)

314 They have gone full 1930 again.

They are blaming Western concepts of natural rights for the ills that were caused by cronyism, outright theft and fiat money.

Like in the 30's
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2016 11:02 AM (ry34m)

You seem shocked that cultures tend to remain the same at their core. Actually, the Japs are gearing up to fight the Chinese. East Asia is going to be a bloodbath soon. The Chinese are busy ticking everyone off and probably want a war anyways with their inherent instability.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 18, 2016 11:09 AM (WVeiZ)

315 What if this convention is as boring as all the prior conventions?

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:09 AM (gmeXX)

316 The Japanese PM is denying the Rape of Nanking ever occurred, among other things.




Yep. He just went full Tojo.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 11:10 AM (m/IZ9)

317 My Dad ran away from home when he was 12, in 1929, escaped from reform school actually. He rode the rails for four years until he entered the CCC. It wasn't all lolling around in boxcars, many times you had to ride under the train car, "ride the rails".

See 2nd photo from the top on left.

http://tinyurl.com/z2paaqo

Posted by: Javems at July 18, 2016 11:10 AM (yOqwj)

318 Japan going fascist again?Is there anything Obama can't fuck up?

Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2016 11:10 AM (B48dK)

319 308 The Japanese PM is denying the Rape of Nanking ever occurred, among other things.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:07 AM (1ZOkK)

It wasn't "rape-rape"

Posted by: whoppie Gordbelg at July 18, 2016 11:10 AM (7HtZB)

320 HA-ha-ha-ha HA-ha-ha-ha...

Posted by: South Park Indians at July 18, 2016 11:10 AM (FpN8r)

321 The Japanese PM is denying the Rape of Nanking ever occurred, among other things.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:07 AM (1ZOkK)



I was gonna say, isn't that the guy who says there was no Rape of Nanking?

I DON'T WANNA LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES!

*stamps wee feets*

Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 18, 2016 11:10 AM (mf5HN)

322 another acquittal in the Freddie Gray case

Posted by: The Jackhole at July 18, 2016 11:10 AM (M+Lyo)

323 You seem shocked that cultures tend to remain the same at their core. Actually, the Japs are gearing up to fight the Chinese. East Asia is going to be a bloodbath soon. The Chinese are busy ticking everyone off and probably want a war anyways with their inherent instability.



When you have a billion people and you are short 300 million women.......

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 11:11 AM (m/IZ9)

324 If only we had a high profile public figure standing against the professional liars in the media.
Posted by: Phone of kari at July 18, 2016 11:04 AM (FrpSj)

Am feeling like The Donald is our last, best hope.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 18, 2016 11:11 AM (oQQwD)

325 323 All those lonely 1 inch peckers....
Barney Frank

Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2016 11:12 AM (B48dK)

326 Nice painting

Posted by: The Emperor of the North at July 18, 2016 11:12 AM (9mTYi)

327 The Japanese prime minister belongs to a group that Champions Japan as the heroes of World War II, and they are in the process of changing their constitution to get rid of Western ideas of the sanctity of life and to democracy and other such things that stand in the way of their rebirth as a regional power.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 11:03 AM (E0BtF)


Oy.

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 11:12 AM (7lVbc)

328 another acquittal in the Freddie Gray case



Give them room to destroy.


*pops corn*

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 11:12 AM (evdj2)

329 Damn, why did this verdict come out on Monday. Man, I got to go to work./

Posted by: Boyz in da Hood at July 18, 2016 11:12 AM (8zvUY)

330 When I was four or five years old my mom would take me to the towns depot and we'd watch the steam freights roll through. Used to be at least three to four steam engines in the yard waiting to pick up their trains. Had a roundhouse for medium maintainence too.

My uncle was an engineer for Santa Fe that brought freights in and one day took me up into the cab of a steam engine while he broke down his train in the yard. I've been in love with railroading ever since.

A totally different era.

Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2016 11:14 AM (Fmupd)

331 Seriously? They're going to worship the head politician? Where are they? - Ancient Rome? Egypt maybe?
Posted by: grammie winger at July 18, 2016 11:04 AM (dFi94)


That ought to go over real big in heavily secularized Japan.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:14 AM (HA9zO)

332 See 2nd photo from the top on left.

http://tinyurl.com/z2paaqo



Oh I like that. Having grown up as a model railroader I love the trusses.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 11:14 AM (1xUj/)

333 another acquittal in the Freddie Gray case
Posted by: The Jackhole
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That judge is prejudiced, biased, and bigoted.

Posted by: Marilyn Mosby at July 18, 2016 11:14 AM (9mTYi)

334 The Japanese PM is denying the Rape of Nanking ever occurred, among other things.

Yep. He just went full Tojo.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 11:10 AM (m/IZ9)

The Japs never really apologized for anything in WWII. We had to nuke them twice, and that was barely enough, to get them to surrender. Most Asians think their ethnic group is superior to anyone else's. They're working their way up to wanting to prove it. But hey, shipping factories over there isn't a big deal.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 18, 2016 11:14 AM (WVeiZ)

335 This talk of casual road trips inspired by the spirit of the painting got me wondering. Our car (a one car family) does not have GPS or any associated gear and we turned off all tracking features on our cell phones. Never wanted any of it. We value our privacy. Our younger friends don't give any of this a second thought.

We're in our sixties but have always felt this way. Is it a generational thing or we just old fashioned curmudgeons? Maybe it's both.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2016 11:14 AM (V+03K)

336 I was gonna say, isn't that the guy who says there was no Rape of Nanking?

I DON'T WANNA LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES!

*stamps wee feets*
Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 18, 2016 11:10 AM (mf5HN)

It was more of a "drunken grope of Nanking"

Posted by: Japanese PM Shinzo Abe at July 18, 2016 11:14 AM (7HtZB)

337 What is going on in the world?
That Japan shit would have been laughed at as a movie plot just last year.
Things are going t shiitake mushroom status at warp speed.

Am I a weirdo to think it's something literally diabolical?

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 11:15 AM (7lVbc)

338 I'm hoping over the course off the next couple of days speakers at the RNC convention tear into the SCOAMF and Hillary similar to how speakers tore into Kerry in 2004 which forced a very drunk John Kerry to embarass himself by trying to give a late night rebuttal to the onslaught.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 18, 2016 11:15 AM (3Xxpy)

339 But hey, shipping factories over there isn't a big deal.

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If the Chinese want to develop cheap toys and trinkets, who am I to complain?

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:16 AM (gmeXX)

340 Guess not.

Posted by: Andy Reid at July 18, 2016 11:17 AM (FpN8r)

341 Glad I'm not the only one creeped out by the girl who named her car Brad.

Even without seeing her, I know she has crazy ex-girlfriend eyes.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 18, 2016 11:17 AM (s/EUv)

342 308 The Japanese PM is denying the Rape of Nanking ever occurred, among other things.
___________________________

Like the Turkish deny the Armenian Genocide ever occurred.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 18, 2016 11:17 AM (4AVeu)

343 Can't we all please just avoid using divisive rhetoric?

Posted by: Off The Pigs! at July 18, 2016 11:17 AM (/m8T6)

344 337 What is going on in the world?
That Japan shit would have been laughed at as a movie plot just last year.
Things are going t shiitake mushroom status at warp speed.

Am I a weirdo to think it's something literally diabolical?
Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 11:15 AM (7lVbc)

I trace it back to the 2012 dem convention, when the Name of God was booed three times. The smoke of the demonic entered into the country then.

Posted by: Japanese PM Shinzo Abe at July 18, 2016 11:17 AM (7HtZB)

345 I think the Chinese invasion plan for Japan is colloquially known as the "Million Man Swim, v. 2.0" (version 1.0 is the Taiwan plan...)

Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2016 11:17 AM (Bdeb0)

346 Rape of Nanking
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Hellishly brutal amateurs.

Posted by: Mao of Dung at July 18, 2016 11:17 AM (NUqwG)

347 I guess we will see if Tom Clancy was a prophet.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 11:17 AM (evdj2)

348 Iron Eyes Cody was the Shaun King of Indians.

Posted by: steevy



I assume the Native American version of that would be he spent a fortune at tanning salons.

I have to admit since Shaun King has fallen out of the limelight that I miss those pictures of him painfully and artificially flaring his nostrils.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 11:17 AM (E0BtF)

349 Off, Japanese PM sock

Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 11:18 AM (7HtZB)

350 That ought to go over real big in heavily secularized Japan.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:14 AM (HA9zO)

Secularization never holds if it isn't backstopped by some ultimate, general societal belief. The West used to have Christianity. We see how well secularization is holding without it.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 18, 2016 11:18 AM (WVeiZ)

351 Tojo meet Bojo at a Hojo.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 11:18 AM (IqV8l)

352 Of course the CCP denies that their political party killed a lot more Chinese in postwar China then the Japanese did in WWII.

China is now sort of like Prussia. They once said of Prussia (and a unified Germany) that it was a army with a country, rather than a country with a army. China today is a political party with a country, rather than a country with a political party. Better yet is looks like the CCP dumped Communism for Fascism...rather cute considering the left always claimed that fascism was a "conservative" thing.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 18, 2016 11:18 AM (KhJh8)

353 37 Got a summer flu, in bed from 1:30 pm yesterday until 5:30 this morning. Groooaann.
Posted by: LadyS at July 18, 2016 09:15 AM (C8ztS)

I've been sick as a dog the last 5 days! How does this happen?
--------------
Well, almost all zombie apocalypse start with the flu or similar symptoms...........

Posted by: lindafell- TEXIT!! at July 18, 2016 11:18 AM (xVgrA)

354 Most Asians think their ethnic group is superior to anyone else's. They're working their way up to wanting to prove it. But hey, shipping factories over there isn't a big deal.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 18, 2016 11:14 AM (WVeiZ)


The Japanese were the assholes of the Far East until we nuked them. Everybody else depised them. What's working against them is that their population is rapidly aging and they're not having babies. The IJN will have to man their warships and aircraft carriers with 75 year old men.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:19 AM (HA9zO)

355 shouldn't that painting be called "Obama's economy"?

Posted by: mallflower at July 18, 2016 11:19 AM (qSIlh)

356 >>Their leader says they're going to start a BLM church.
I wonder how that works?


*scratches head*
Obvious point: Rev Wright already did that
Exit question: To whom would they pray?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2016 11:19 AM (NOIQH)

357 The IJN will have to man their warships and aircraft carriers with 75 year old men.


or robots.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 11:19 AM (evdj2)

358 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at July 18, 2016 11:20 AM (GwIKd)

359 Rape of Nanking
_________________

The Japanese. Who needs an atomic weapons when bayonets and samurai swords can kill 100,000 people.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 18, 2016 11:20 AM (4AVeu)

360 If the Chinese want to develop cheap toys and trinkets, who am I to complain?
Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:16 AM (gmeXX)

Stupidest reply ever. Largest PC maker, Lenovo. Every PC you buy is mainly made in China. This whole "They only make cheap stuff" is colossal ignorance.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 18, 2016 11:20 AM (WVeiZ)

361 I had the summer flu all last week. Ruined my vacation. Had to cancel a fishing trip.

About 4 days flew by in a blur. Sleep 2 hours, wake up for a few hours. Go on internet. Terrorism, cop killings. It got to the point where I couldn't tell if I was reading the same ones over and over. Hell, I didn't even know what day it was half the time.

Recovered just in time for the weekend before going back to work today.

Worst. Vacation. Ever.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 18, 2016 11:20 AM (s/EUv)

362 The Japanese were the assholes of the Far East until we nuked them. Everybody else depised them. What's working against them is that their population is rapidly aging and they're not having babies. The IJN will have to man their warships and aircraft carriers with 75 year old men.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:19 AM (HA9zO)

And sexbots. Can't forget them.

Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 11:20 AM (7HtZB)

363 Most Asians think their ethnic group is superior to anyone else's

--

Except the Philippines - the whole country has an inferiority complex.

Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 11:21 AM (7lVbc)

364 Well, the rape of Nanking wasn't rape-rape.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 18, 2016 11:21 AM (s/EUv)

365 In 2015, Abe's government refused to admit refugees affected by conflicts in the Middle East and Africa.

==========
This makes sense. And we know the refugees are almost all economic refugees.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 11:21 AM (iQIUe)

366 >>The IJN will have to man their warships and aircraft carriers with 75 year old men. Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:19 AM (HA9zO)

Rum, sodomy, and the prosthetic hip.

Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2016 11:21 AM (Bdeb0)

367 The IJN will have to man their warships and aircraft carriers with 75 year old men.

or robots.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 11:19 AM (evdj2)

Or after a generation of moving away from secularization they'll actually start having kids again.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 18, 2016 11:22 AM (WVeiZ)

368 Old-fashioned style political cartoon perfectly captures Hillary's appeal to established politicians:

https://twitter.com/SENATORCROSS/status/754992104917479424

Posted by: Mr. Hope's Suitcase at July 18, 2016 11:23 AM (/m8T6)

369 >>>>>They have gone full 1930 again.



They are blaming Western concepts of natural rights for the ills that were caused by cronyism, outright theft and fiat money.



Like in the 30's

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2016 11:02 AM (ry34m)



You seem shocked that cultures tend to remain the same at their
core. Actually, the Japs are gearing up to fight the Chinese. East
Asia is going to be a bloodbath soon. The Chinese are busy ticking
everyone off and probably want a war anyways with their inherent
instability.
.
.
.
.The Chinese have historically imploded or exploded on a fairly routine 50 year basis in the last 200 years or so. They are overdue for another one.

Japanese are without doubt the most racist people I have ever encountered in my life. They treat Westerners with dignity and respect due to their culture, but deep down they hate everyone who is not Japanese.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 11:23 AM (iONHu)

370 366 >>The IJN will have to man their warships and aircraft carriers with 75 year old men. Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:19 AM (HA9zO)

Rum, sodomy, and the prosthetic hip.


Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2016 11:21 AM (Bdeb0)


And cute little Ninja Girls... and Sexbots.... and airplanes that turn into Giant Robots!

Posted by: Don Q. at July 18, 2016 11:24 AM (qf6WZ)

371 You're not alone and thinking something diabolical is going on, @votermom. The world has always been Satan's domain, and God has withdrawn his favor from the world as a result of the world's turn toward the Self, abortion, socialism, and all the other leftist pathologies we are currently wallowing in. Even our Pope is a homosexual loving communist, for Heaven's sake, and may even be the last Pope who has been prophesied to be the precursor to the Antichrist.

This will not end well for Humanity. I'm just hoping that God doesn't use fire instead of water to exterminate us this time. He certainly has ample reason to.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 11:24 AM (E0BtF)

372 Stupidest reply ever. Largest PC maker, Lenovo. Every PC you buy is mainly made in China. This whole "They only make cheap stuff" is colossal ignorance.

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So what? Why should I care if they make computers? Computers are basically a commodity these days.

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:24 AM (gmeXX)

373 Trailers for sale or rent!

Posted by: Car Facts at July 18, 2016 11:25 AM (p7X52)

374 SAGEN!!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at July 18, 2016 11:26 AM (0O7c5)

375 She named her car Brad.

That could be why she has been through two boyfriends. No mention if she has a third.

Any actuaries among the Moron Horde? So, Liberty Mutual will sell you optional coverage that will buy you a one-year newer car if you total your existing car. Intuition tells me that most folks never total a car. They have it for several years, maybe a fender-bender and then sell it or trade it in.

Liberty Mutual has found a way to find suckers willing to pay more so they need not worry about "driving a car with only three wheels."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 18, 2016 11:26 AM (1ijHg)

376 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 11:23 AM (iONHu)

The scary part is that with Chinese demographics... because their one child policy and sex selection abortion led to an overabundance of males...

They have a few million cases where there are no women for the men...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 18, 2016 11:26 AM (qf6WZ)

377 362 The Japanese were the assholes of the Far East until we nuked them. Everybody else depised them. What's working against them is that their population is rapidly aging and they're not having babies. The IJN will have to man their warships and aircraft carriers with 75 year old men.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:19 AM (HA9zO)
And sexbots. Can't forget them.
Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 11:20 AM (7HtZB)


Right. I should've said "...they're not having babies and their young men are screwing sexbots."

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:26 AM (HA9zO)

378 So what? Why should I care if they make computers? Computers are basically a commodity these days.
Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:24 AM (gmeXX)


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Geez. If computers are a commodity, then all manufacturing is commodities.

Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2016 11:27 AM (Fmupd)

379 IRS targets conservative groups. TFG: "not a smidgen of corruption"

Police, investigating a burglary call, arrest a man who refused to show identification and repeatedly screamed accusations of racism. TFG: "The police acted stupidly".

Within 10 days, more than 8 police officers are targeted and killed by gunmen who clearly state their motivation is to kill white people and cops. TFG:"police organizations and departments need to acknowledge that there is a [racial] problem... ultimately help make the job of being a cop a lot safer"

There you have it folks, the President of the United States has repeatedly and expressly supported attacks on police due to unsubstantiated accusations of racism but can't find a single thing wrong with government agencies targeting the same people he has described as "bitterly clinging to guns and bibles" and threatened "if they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun".

Posted by: Damiano at July 18, 2016 11:27 AM (71OEY)

380 Stupidest reply ever. Largest PC maker, Lenovo. Every PC you buy is mainly made in China. This whole "They only make cheap stuff" is colossal ignorance.

-------------

So what? Why should I care if they make computers? Computers are basically a commodity these days.
-----------------

"colossal ignorance"

Posted by: RioBravo at July 18, 2016 11:27 AM (NUqwG)

381 373 Trailers for sale or rent!

Posted by: Car Facts at July 18, 2016 11:25 AM (p7X52)


...Rooms to Let: 50 cents.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:27 AM (HA9zO)

382 Sharkman,

A baptism of Spirit and Fire is required to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 18, 2016 11:27 AM (1ijHg)

383 308 The Japanese PM is denying the Rape of Nanking ever occurred, among other things.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:07 AM (1ZOkK)

Wow. I just sat down to the interwebs, and this is what I read. I guess all the pictorial evidence that the JAPANESE took, to record their "triumphs" was all fabricated. But there are plenty of people who don't believe Germany committed the atrocities they committed. And hell, Stalin gets a big ole pass for the many millions he murdered.

I don't understand what is going on in the world today, but I don't think it is a good thing.

Posted by: Moki at July 18, 2016 11:28 AM (ezHMO)

384 If Japan is really thinking about a sequel to their 1930s Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere, then hopefully we will skip all that pesky island hopping crap and just nuke um.

Unless they're only going after the Chicoms. Then Banzi!

Posted by: JackS at July 18, 2016 11:28 AM (hgwL9)

385 Japanese are without doubt the most racist people I have ever encountered in my life. They treat Westerners with dignity and respect due to their culture, but deep down they hate everyone who is not Japanese.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 11:23 AM (iONHu)


I'd call it a tie with Arabs actually from the Middle East...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 18, 2016 11:28 AM (qf6WZ)

386 Geez. If computers are a commodity, then all manufacturing is commodities.

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What is the problem with China making computers? If you don't want one made in China, but one made here. If China shuts down the computer market, we can start making them here very quickly.

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:28 AM (gmeXX)

387 Sheriff Clark is scheduled to speak at the RNC. I hope he tears the dog-eating crackhead three new assholes.


Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Posted by: Cheri at July 18, 2016 11:28 AM (oiNtH)

388 Japan still lacks oil.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 11:28 AM (evdj2)

389 Liberty Mutual has found a way to find suckers willing to pay more so they need not worry about "driving a car with only three wheels."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 18, 2016 11:26 AM (1ijHg)

What's wrong with 3-wheeled cars?

Posted by: Messerschmitt KR200 fans everywhere at July 18, 2016 11:29 AM (7HtZB)

390 China also has another similarity to the Unified Germany from 1870-1945) - They are using something that happened 70 + years ago to justify all sorts of stuff. Imperial Germany (and later Nazi Germany) used Napoleon's invasion of Prussia as a reason to occasionally storm across the borders of France.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 18, 2016 11:29 AM (KhJh8)

391 So what? Why should I care if they make computers? Computers are basically a commodity these days.

Posted by: SH


Because you don't know dick about whats in the logic of the chips.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 11:30 AM (Doh4+)

392 And that is a beautiful painting. My dad was an expediter for the USPS after WWII, and road the trains to guard the mail. He loved it, my mom, not so much. She was at home with four kids to deal with alone (pre-me. I came around years after they thought they were done. Ha.) He would never talk about his war years, but he always had stories of his train riding days.

Posted by: Moki at July 18, 2016 11:30 AM (ezHMO)

393 Another cop exonerated in Baltimore!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 11:30 AM (iQIUe)

394 Actually, the Japs are gearing up to fight the Chinese.
____________________________

(With apologies to Kill Bill, Vol. 2.)

China, glaring at the Japanese: You and I have unfinished business.

Japan, smirking back: Baby, you ain't kiddin'.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 18, 2016 11:30 AM (4AVeu)

395 >>This will not end well for Humanity. I'm just hoping that God doesn't use fire instead of water to exterminate us this time. He certainly has ample reason to. Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 11:24 AM (E0BtF)

IIRC, he claimed he wouldn't waste mankind a second time, though there appears to be biblical precedent for breaking divine oaths...

Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2016 11:30 AM (Bdeb0)

396 Japanese are without doubt the most racist people I have ever encountered in my life. They treat Westerners with dignity and respect due to their culture, but deep down they hate everyone who is not Japanese.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 11:23 AM (iONHu)


Yes, well, every one of Japan's neighbors feels the same way about Japan.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:30 AM (HA9zO)

397 Because you don't know dick about whats in the logic of the chips.

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The logic is designed here in America. The chips are made in China. Again, why should I care?

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:30 AM (gmeXX)

398
What is the problem with China making computers? If you don't want one made in China, buy one made here.

All the parts in the ones made here come from China.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 11:31 AM (IqV8l)

399 ... and they are in the process of changing their constitution to get rid of Western ideas of the sanctity of life and to democracy and other such things that stand in the way of their rebirth as a regional power.

It's like they really have a yen for this.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2016 11:31 AM (AEEhl)

400 What is the problem with China making computers? If you don't want one made in China, but one made here. If China shuts down the computer market, we can start making them here very quickly.
Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:28 AM (gmeXX)


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And then they will be 3-5 times more expensive.

Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2016 11:31 AM (Fmupd)

401 Tojo meet Bojo at a Hojo.




Because he lost his mojo in a dojo and now has to gogo.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 11:31 AM (m/IZ9)

402 *looks at shelves in library*

One one is the Tom Clancy book Debt of Honor and on another is Chang's Rape of Nanking.

And in musical trivia the lyrics of the poem that forms Kimigayo was first set to music by an Irishman at the request of the Japanese.

But yeah that is the question, will 2/3rds of each house vote for these changes. And will a majority of Japanese then vote also to approve it when it's explained all their TV and print entertainment could be censored.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 11:31 AM (P6IAq)

403 And then they will be 3-5 times more expensive.

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Exactly, why would I want to spend 3-5 times more on a cheap computer?

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:32 AM (gmeXX)

404 Well, almost all zombie apocalypse start with the flu or similar symptoms...........
Posted by: lindafell- TEXIT!! at July 18, 2016 11:18 AM (xVgrA)


I think the next one starts with the confluence of K2 synthetic marijuana and Pokemon Go

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 18, 2016 11:32 AM (dBmVV)

405 Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:28 AM (gmeXX)

No. We *can't* start making them quickly here. All the parts are made there and most of our manufacturing infrastructure no longer exists.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2016 11:32 AM (GDulk)

406 This will not end well for Humanity. I'm just hoping that God doesn't use fire instead of water to exterminate us this time. He certainly has ample reason to. Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 11:24 AM (E0BtF)

IIRC, he claimed he wouldn't waste mankind a second time, though there appears to be biblical precedent for breaking divine oaths...



HE can always just end us.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 11:32 AM (m/IZ9)

407 Japan's prejudice against ethnic Koreans has always amused me considering the Japanese are predominately ethnic Koreans.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 11:32 AM (evdj2)

408 TFG:"police organizations and departments need to
acknowledge that there is a [racial] problem... ultimately help make the
job of being a cop a lot safer"



There you have it folks, the President of the United States has
repeatedly and expressly supported attacks on police due to
unsubstantiated accusations of racism but can't find a single thing
wrong with government agencies targeting the same people he has
described as "bitterly clinging to guns and bibles" and threatened "if
they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun".

Posted by: Damiano at July 18, 2016 11:27 AM (71OEY)
=====I think the word is 'submission' and we all, not just the police, must submit.
Hmmmm, what is the word 'Islam' translated in English?

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 18, 2016 11:33 AM (MIKMs)

409 Wake me up first!

Posted by: George Michael at July 18, 2016 11:33 AM (dBmVV)

410 Trains.

When I was a very little kid, Dad Mom would drive my little brother and I out after dinner to watch trains. We'd even drive through a couple of the old railroad yards (I believe Union Pacific and probably Southern Pacific or MKT). More often, we would drive out near the airport and park near the tracks. We could see the track signals red/yellow/green and knew "red" meant a train was coming! Bonus was that we'd also swing by the airport and watch planes - blue runway lights on meant a takeoff or landing! And I could watch that damned rotating green/white aviation beacon on the tower for hours it seemed.

It's nice to remember the very simple things that my folks did for us that made us happy way back when.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 18, 2016 11:33 AM (wtvvX)

411 No. We *can't* start making them quickly here. All the parts are made there and most of our manufacturing infrastructure no longer exists.

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Bull. If push came to shove and we had to make computers for some reason - our country would start making them in no time.

But see I believe in the free market.

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:33 AM (gmeXX)

412 393 Another cop exonerated in Baltimore! Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 11:30 AM (iQIUe)

Is it possible to simply cede Baltimore (and a couple other locations I can think of) in toto to BLM? "Here. It's yours. Burn it down. Meanwhile, nevermind this fence we're building..."

Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2016 11:33 AM (Bdeb0)

413 curse you ampersands...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 18, 2016 11:33 AM (wtvvX)

414 Racist? in China everyone not Chinese is gwalo and they are the Middle Kingdom upon whom all the barbarians must pay respect to.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 11:33 AM (P6IAq)

415 394
Actually, the Japs are gearing up to fight the Chinese.


I think they're going to find it'll be a lot tougher this time around.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:33 AM (HA9zO)

416 Most Asians think their ethnic group is superior to anyone else's

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Except the Philippines - the whole country has an inferiority complex.

Posted by: @votermom

and thus its the best to live in ...

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 11:34 AM (Doh4+)

417 You seem shocked that cultures tend to remain the same at their core. Actually, the Japs are gearing up to fight the Chinese. East
Asia is going to be a bloodbath soon. The Chinese are busy ticking everyone off and probably want a war anyways with their inherent
instability.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 11:23 AM (iONHu)



There is a very traditional way in which societies address the difficulties inherent with having a whole bunch of men in their 20s and not enough women to go around.

We seem to be heading for that at warp speed.

Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 18, 2016 11:34 AM (mf5HN)

418 Because you don't know dick about whats in the logic of the chips.

See? I'm not the only one who flip-flops!

Posted by: John "The Duck Hunter" Kerry at July 18, 2016 11:34 AM (AEEhl)

419 394
Actually, the Japs are gearing up to fight the Chinese.

____________________________



(With apologies to Kill Bill, Vol. 2.)



China, glaring at the Japanese: You and I have unfinished business.



Japan, smirking back: Baby, you ain't kiddin'.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 18, 2016 11:30 AM (4AVeu)

Pulls up chair, reaches for popcorn and beer. Looking forward to the previews of this show.......

Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed - Sorry Ben, we f*cked it up at July 18, 2016 11:35 AM (jxbfJ)

420 Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:32 AM (gmeXX)

The point is that you wouldn't have a choice if China closes their markets due to being at war.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2016 11:35 AM (GDulk)

421 Hurry up, Hillary! Now's your chance to declare yourself the "law and order" candidate!

/s

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2016 11:35 AM (JBggj)

422 Yes, well, every one of Japan's neighbors feels the same way about Japan.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:30 AM (HA9zO)

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Not really - Just China and Korea.

Go talk to people in Vietnam and Philippines today and they will tell you the Chinese are. Before Japan modernized most people in Asia where not fans of China because they had spent a couple thousand years bullying everyone, demanding sex slaves for the Emperors, demanding ever accept their overlordship, and stuff like that.

How do you think China got that big?

Posted by: William Eaton at July 18, 2016 11:35 AM (KhJh8)

423 >>There is a very traditional way in which societies address the difficulties inherent with having a whole bunch of men in their 20s and not enough women to go around. Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 18, 2016 11:34 AM (mf5HN)

Videogaming?

Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2016 11:35 AM (Bdeb0)

424 414 Racist? in China everyone not Chinese is gwalo and they are the Middle Kingdom upon whom all the barbarians must pay respect to.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 11:33 AM (P6IAq)


Racism is the natural state of every culture. Only in the West do you hear complaints about it.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:35 AM (HA9zO)

425
Except the Philippines - the whole country has an inferiority complex.
Posted by: @votermom at July 18, 2016 11:21 AM (7lVbc)

Which is completely undeserved. They are some of the loveliest people I have met around the world. And extremely talented. Filipino singers are wholly overlooked for talent scouts. Most can sing circles around current pop stars.

Posted by: Moki at July 18, 2016 11:36 AM (ezHMO)

426 China has a lack of women due to government diktat.

In Japan, both men and women in prime child bearing years seem to lack any desire to have sex.

Slight difference, but same demographic crash.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 11:36 AM (P6IAq)

427 Not really - Just China and Korea.

You forgot the Filipinos.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:36 AM (HA9zO)

428 416 Most Asians think their ethnic group is superior to anyone else's

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Except the Philippines - the whole country has an inferiority complex.

Posted by: @votermom

and thus its the best to live in ...
Posted by: Jean
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And if you live there, hire a Filipino driver, because nobody wants to drive there.

Posted by: Roy at July 18, 2016 11:36 AM (VndSC)

429 Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 18, 2016 11:33 AM (wtvvX)

I grew up next to a Strategic Air Command base, right next to a Santa Fe line...

We used to get some beer, drive to the end of runway, and watch the B-52s do touch and gos (training base).... then take our empty beer cans and put em on the tracks....

Funny how amused we used to be by the whole thing.... when we were 17

Posted by: Don Q. at July 18, 2016 11:37 AM (qf6WZ)

430 The Norks are worse than the Japanese with regards to racism: An eastern bloc diplomat (GDR I think) once referred to it as Goebblestan. In private they didn't exactly like that they were allied with a fascist regime that made the Nazis look like pikers.

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 11:37 AM (Lyh9/)

431 Japanese are without doubt the most racist people I have ever encountered in my life. They treat Westerners with dignity and respect due to their culture, but deep down they hate everyone who is not Japanese.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

I found this out when I spent a Summer in Hawaii and met what was to be my future Japanese in-laws. I was expected to conform to their culture and ways and they were hyper critical. Needless to say I never married their son as he expected me to conform as well.

Posted by: Cheri at July 18, 2016 11:37 AM (oiNtH)

432
"Sheriff Clark is scheduled to speak at the RNC. I hope he tears the dog-eating crackhead three new assholes."

I'm not sure focusing on Obama is a such a good strategy. The dog eating crack-head is still very popular with the LIV's and consistently polls above 50% approval. Probably better to focus and the alien lizard queen.

Posted by: Ripley at July 18, 2016 11:37 AM (1BQGO)

433 Impressionism, or realism, or both...Nice technique...

Posted by: macleod at July 18, 2016 11:37 AM (Qf5bp)

434 The point is that you wouldn't have a choice if China closes their markets due to being at war.

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I'm not sure I follow. If China closed its market due to a war, I think companies will quickly find a way to make computers because there is a demand. They may be more expensive, but I suspect that would be very temporary as people don't really want to pay a lot for computers, and would simply stop replacing their existing computers if they start costing $2,000 as opposed to $1,000. So the fact that cheap computer manufacturing jobs are shipped off to California does not really bother me.

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:37 AM (gmeXX)

435 Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:33 AM (gmeXX)

Except you just said you didn't want to pay American-made prices. You are arguing circularly.

Also, have you ever actually worked in a factory? I have, there's a lot involved in getting one up and running.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2016 11:37 AM (GDulk)

436 You forgot the Filipinos.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:36 AM (HA9zO)

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Not today...today China is prime enemy number 1.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 18, 2016 11:37 AM (KhJh8)

437 413 curse you ampersands...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 18, 2016 11:33 AM


Operators are standing by to assist & aid & help you.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Help & Support Desk at July 18, 2016 11:38 AM (AEEhl)

438 >>>>Japan's prejudice against ethnic Koreans has always amused me considering the Japanese are predominately ethnic Koreans.
.
.
.
.They may share some of the same DNA but there are difference in all Asian groups from what I have seen. I used to be pretty good at identifying Chinese or Japanese, Philippino, etc when I see Asians. Having lived in those various Countries on and off for about 5 years helps.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 11:39 AM (iONHu)

439 But see I believe in the free market.

Posted by: SH



That puts you in a minority around here since He Who Must Not
Be Named happened.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 11:39 AM (1xUj/)

440 I think they're going to find it'll be a lot tougher this time around.

______________________________

You're right, but the Japanese need only to strike some key dams on the Yellow River and they can kill millions of people downstream, knock out their electricity and flood their breadbasket.

The second major strike would have to be against Hong Kong, to destroy their economy.


Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 18, 2016 11:39 AM (4AVeu)

441 Except you just said you didn't want to pay American-made prices. You are arguing circularly.

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I see. No I don't want to pay more for computers. So should China become too expensive to make them their, then our companies will find a way to make them cheaply without China. That is what they do. There is a price point people are willing to pay for computers. Close china down, we will find something new. There may be a little disruption, but it won't last that long. In the meantime, I'm willing to take that chance to buy cheap computers.

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:40 AM (gmeXX)

442 In domestic entertainment news, Ghostbusters premiered at the #2 spot. Secret Life of Pets retained the #1 spot.

Also Ghostbusters missed the expected $50 million gross mark by $4million for the weekend.

This movie will be in the $5 DVD bin at Wal-Mart by Christmas.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 11:41 AM (P6IAq)

443 I worked for a Japanese company for a number of years. I'd say half of the Japanese managers had a Japanese superiority complex. Didn't bother me too much as I had an American superiority complex. We learned to co-exist. ( of course the difference was I believed the American superiority lie in the ideals of America and they believed it was their ethnicity that was superior)

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 18, 2016 11:41 AM (0QLpr)

444 Anna Puma, I think I have asked you before how you got through the "Rape of Nanking". I've tried, but I just can't do it. and I've read extensively on the concentration camps, and have visited several of them. But I cannot get through that.

Posted by: Moki at July 18, 2016 11:41 AM (ezHMO)

445 But yeah that is the question, will 2/3rds of each house vote for these changes. And will a majority of Japanese then vote also to approve it when it's explained all their TV and print entertainment could be censored.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 11:31 AM (P6IAq)


Oh, I don't know, a disturbingly large number of muslims have indicated that they would live under sharia law. So it wouldn't surprise me if many Japanese people decided to give up free speech and other "western values" to someone who promises to bring back the Japanese empire.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:42 AM (HA9zO)

446 In fact the Philippines are basically begging the Americans and Japanese to come back and put naval assets there. If the Spanish had a navy today the they would beg them to come back as well.

That is how worried they are about the Chinese claiming the ENTIRE South China Sea right up to the Philippines coast. If the CCP gets their way a Filipino ship could never leave their entire western coast without entering into Chinese national waters.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 18, 2016 11:42 AM (KhJh8)

447 In domestic entertainment news, Ghostbusters premiered at the #2 spot. Secret Life of Pets retained the #1 spot.

Also Ghostbusters missed the expected $50 million gross mark by $4million for the weekend.

This movie will be in the $5 DVD bin at Wal-Mart by Christmas.



I have $10 that says "by Labor Day".

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 11:43 AM (m/IZ9)

448 I am Rose of Sharon suckling the nation to health.

Posted by: FLOTUS at July 18, 2016 11:43 AM (3SfgJ)

449 Newegg is completely sold out of AMD 480 8 MB GPUs.

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2016 11:43 AM (JBggj)

450
444 Anna Puma, I think I have asked you before how you got through the "Rape of Nanking". I've tried, but I just can't do it. and I've read extensively on the concentration camps, and have visited several of them. But I cannot get through that.
Posted by: Moki at July 18, 2016 11:41 AM (ezHMO)


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I couldn't either.

Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2016 11:43 AM (Fmupd)

451 That Maryln Mosby DA looks like she is DTF.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 18, 2016 11:43 AM (3zt5o)

452 Computer chips, potato chips. what's the difference?

Posted by: Michael "Genius" Boskin at July 18, 2016 11:43 AM (NUqwG)

453 and would simply stop replacing their existing computers if they start costing $2,000 as opposed to $1,000. So the fact that cheap computer manufacturing jobs are shipped off to California does not really bother me.

Posted by: SH


Just rolling back off of the latest Windows to a Linux build would make the older machines better and boost productivity. It would probably be a net plus for the economy.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 11:44 AM (Doh4+)

454 I am acquainted with a minister who has labored in a church in Tokyo for decades. I should check in with him and find out what he thinks about this new flowering of Japanese nationalism.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:44 AM (HA9zO)

455 I have a stomach ache. I'm going to go buy some shoes, Don't axe each other.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 18, 2016 11:44 AM (dFi94)

456 Posted by: Moki

I also tried to read Chang's book but could not get through it. Horrific.

Chang herself went into a spiraling deep depression and ended her life.

Posted by: Cheri at July 18, 2016 11:45 AM (oiNtH)

457 I'd say half of the Japanese managers had a Japanese superiority complex. Didn't bother me too much as I had an American superiority complex. We learned to co-exist.



Strategically placed M80's around the breakroom would enforce that.

Loud boom every now & then.........

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 11:45 AM (m/IZ9)

458 Nice Roger Miller reference Bruce.
I think the lyrics might have been a touch out of order but then it's been over 20 years since I sang it occasionally so I might have wires crossed.
Most fulfilling time was the only time mom came out to listen. She could only stand by the front door for one song because of the smoke but it was one of her favorites.
When I broke into it her smile went ear to ear.

Posted by: teej at July 18, 2016 11:45 AM (DEtB+)

459 454 I am acquainted with a minister who has labored in a church in Tokyo for decades. I should check in with him and find out what he thinks about this new flowering of Japanese nationalism.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:44 AM (HA9zO)

It's understandable, actually. I think everybody has arrived at the perfectly reasonable conclusion that the US is not going to be there for them in the future.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at July 18, 2016 11:46 AM (RD7QR)

460 455
I have a stomach ache. I'm going to go buy some shoes, Don't axe each other.


Posted by: grammie winger at July 18, 2016 11:44 AM (dFi94)


Don't axe each other what?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:46 AM (1ZOkK)

461 Japanese are without doubt the most racist people I have ever encountered in my life. They treat Westerners with dignity and respect due to their culture, but deep down they hate everyone who is not Japanese.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

Thousands of years of telling yourself that you are spawned from Divinity will do that.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 11:46 AM (E0BtF)

462 It's understandable, actually. I think everybody has arrived at the perfectly reasonable conclusion that the US is not going to be there for them in the future.

Fundamental Transformation ain't just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 11:46 AM (evdj2)

463 A couple of Japanese subs blocking the oil tankers in the Straights of Malacca for a week or two -- would hurt China. That would be a lot easier than hitting HK or dams deep in China.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 11:47 AM (Doh4+)

464 Chang herself went into a spiraling deep depression and ended her life.
Posted by: Cheri at July 18, 2016 11:45 AM (oiNtH)

Oh God bless her. I can understand-that must have been hell to curate and write about. But it seems to me that talking about that a bit more would shut down some of the garbage talk about how evil we were to bomb Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Would anyone want that kind of malice unleashed on the world?

Posted by: Moki at July 18, 2016 11:47 AM (ezHMO)

465 There is a very traditional way in which societies address the difficulties inherent with having a whole bunch of men in their 20s and not enough women to go around.


Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 18, 2016 11:34 AM (mf5HN)

Dance-off, bro!

Posted by: Peter Quill, Star-Lord at July 18, 2016 11:47 AM (7HtZB)

466 454 I am acquainted with a minister who has labored in a church in Tokyo for decades. I should check in with him and find out what he thinks about this new flowering of Japanese nationalism.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:44 AM (HA9zO)

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I actually support a flowering of Japanese nationalism as a check to flowering of Chinese Nationalism.

Japan and India are building an alliance and it will only grow if China keeps making territorial demands of all their neighbors.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 18, 2016 11:47 AM (KhJh8)

467 If we could just broker and underwrite a "master Asian race" vs. "master Islamic religion" war for all the marbles (between Tunisia and Tokyo)...

Mister Kissinger, call for you on line three, line three Mister Kissinger...

Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2016 11:47 AM (Bdeb0)

468 "I have $10 that says "by Labor Day".

The toys are already being marked down, and in the clearance bins at Target.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 18, 2016 11:47 AM (ptqRm)

469 A couple of Japanese subs blocking the oil tankers in the Straights of Malacca for a week or two -- would hurt China. That would be a lot easier than hitting HK or dams deep in China.

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China has nukes, Japan doesn't. Unless Japan is sure we would back them (and I would not be so sure), I would bet on China.

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:48 AM (gmeXX)

470 436 You forgot the Filipinos.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:36 AM (HA9zO)
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Not today...today China is prime enemy number 1.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 18, 2016 11:37 AM (KhJh


Right. Used to be. Until China started flexing its muscles. Having King Putt as our CiC is not doing anything to help world stability.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:48 AM (HA9zO)

471 India is another place with deep racism. It's really hard to figure out, too. The caste clues are subtle (and/or I didnt care).

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 11:49 AM (Doh4+)

472 Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:40 AM (gmeXX)

So.... China cuts off our access to chips..

Just what does the American economy, and Military, do for the year or so it would take to get domestic chip manufacturing going?

Electronic parts are now a strategic resource... both in military and economic terms.

Posted by: Don Q. at July 18, 2016 11:49 AM (qf6WZ)

473 This painting also shows the westward migration of the Rooftop Koreans.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 18, 2016 11:49 AM (rJUlF)

474 "Having King Putt as our CiC is not doing anything to help world stability."

At least he brings improved race relations within the US, right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 18, 2016 11:50 AM (ptqRm)

475 China has nukes, Japan doesn't. Unless Japan is sure we would back them (and I would not be so sure), I would bet on China.
Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:48 AM (gmeXX)

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Trump said he would be ok with Japan getting nukes. Plus everyone admits Japan could have a reasonable nuke arsenal within a year or two. Heck they are probably building one now.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 18, 2016 11:50 AM (KhJh8)

476 China has nukes, Japan doesn't. Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:48 AM (gmeXX)

Japan has Ultraman, China doesn't.

Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2016 11:50 AM (Bdeb0)

477 Most fulfilling time was the only time mom came out to listen. She could only stand by the front door for one song because of the smoke but it was one of her favorites.
When I broke into it her smile went ear to ear.
Posted by: teej at July 18, 2016 11:45 AM (DEtB+)

Thanks for sharing that. It's nice to hear something so sweet, with all of the sorrowful news. Keeps me positive, anyway.

Posted by: Moki at July 18, 2016 11:50 AM (ezHMO)

478 None of those people in Liberty Mutual ads seem stable, or even likeable. Whiners, every single one of them. What a hot mess of an ad campaign, or are they better judges of the zeitgeist than I am ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at July 18, 2016 11:50 AM (3X3ZR)

479 Husband and I spent Christmas in Hawaii years ago (YAY! No in-laws!), and spent an afternoon at a beach on Oahu.

Place was crowded with Japanese tourists, and when it came time to shower and head back to the bed and breakfast, none of the "sweet" little Japanese "ladies" would let me enter the changing room. They just nodded, smiled, and allowed their fellow Japanese women in, and held their arms out that I couldn't come in.

I finally was so pissed I couldn't see straight and said (loudly), "Move out of the way. I'm coming in."

They continued to nod and smile "sweetly" as I forced myself in. Assholes, all of them.

Son said the native Okinawans have a particular dislike of the Japanese, for obvious reasons.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:50 AM (1ZOkK)

480 China has nukes, Japan doesn't. Unless Japan is sure we would back them (and I would not be so sure), I would bet on China.

Posted by: SH


I am certain Japan is a charter member of the "4 turns of a torque wrench" nuclear club. Along with RoK and Taiwan.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 11:51 AM (Doh4+)

481 I saw Spawned from Divinity and Presidential Umbrellas open for The Garden Gates in a tiny little Club in DC in 2011.

The crowd tomatoed them.

Posted by: Oblig. at July 18, 2016 11:51 AM (E0BtF)

482 Love this painting. My dad worked for the UP for many years. We lived in a whole bunch of railroad houses, and I've seen a lot of trains go by. The tradition of the hobo traveler has never really gone away.

Posted by: small town girl at July 18, 2016 11:51 AM (npN26)

483 Moderate amount of ozone in the air this morning.

Posted by: davidt at July 18, 2016 11:51 AM (FpN8r)

484 all I know is, if there is going to be a major crisis involving China, Japan, et al, the we need to elect Hillary so she can keep Kerry as Sec of State. We need people with such incredible accomplishments! And with any luck, they'll do to China what they did to Libya and Syria.

Posted by: mallflower at July 18, 2016 11:51 AM (qSIlh)

485 478 None of those people in Liberty Mutual ads seem stable, or even likeable. Whiners, every single one of them. What a hot mess of an ad campaign, or are they better judges of the zeitgeist than I am ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at July 18, 2016 11:50 AM (3X3ZR)


The ad with the black couple where the husband is portrayed as a blooming idiot irks me. I don't like the others much, either.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 18, 2016 11:52 AM (rJUlF)

486 China has nukes, Japan doesn't. Unless Japan is sure we would back them (and I would not be so sure), I would bet on China.

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:48 AM (gmeXX)


Japan has a Nuclear infrastructure and world class laboratories.

We created the first atomic bombs in 4 years using 1940's technology....

If Japan wanted to go Nuclear... it would not take long at all....

I'd wager the plan and parts are already in place.... (it would be dumb for them NOT to have a plan in place).

Posted by: Don Q. at July 18, 2016 11:52 AM (qf6WZ)

487
I have a stomach ache. I'm going to go buy some shoes

Is that an example of a non sequitur?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 11:52 AM (IqV8l)

488 Erick Erickson: Hey, you know who's just like Hitler yet totes not Hitler?

"The GOP, if Hitler made it through the primaries with 33% of the vote, would swap the elephant for the swastika...

Trump is not Hitler and I have repeatedly defended him on television and radio against others who have compared him to Hitler."

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 18, 2016 11:52 AM (s/EUv)

489 "356 >>Their leader says they're going to start a BLM church.
I wonder how that works?


*scratches head*
Obvious point: Rev Wright already did that
Exit question: To whom would they pray?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2016 11:19 AM (NOIQH) "


They will pray (as they already are) to whatever is getting worshiped by the "sacrament" of abortion.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at July 18, 2016 11:52 AM (3X3ZR)

490 @383 Mok


"I don't understand what is going on in the world today, but I don't think it is a good thing."

Historical revisionism is something you are going to see more of. How many American children lear the lies of Howard Zinn's fables? Wait till JEF is beyound this world and we are Long dead and he be Held up like JFK.


The war crimes of the JIA or Stalins red hoards is something that simply is ignored or glossed over.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at July 18, 2016 11:52 AM (E8UjU)

491 I see Mosbey strikes out again... Another not guilty in the Grey case... When is Her trial?

Posted by: donna at July 18, 2016 11:53 AM (O2RFr)

492 China has the manpower, but no means of transporting them across the Pacific to conquer. Japan hasn't the manpower at all. Should be an odd Pacific War Part II.

Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 11:53 AM (7HtZB)

493 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 11:52 AM (IqV8l)

Not for women. Simple statement of condition and treatment of condition.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2016 11:53 AM (GDulk)

494 Ultraman.

Now that is a very much missed blast from the past.

I loved that show even more than I loved Speed Racer. Of course my crush on Trixie explains that particular silliness.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 11:54 AM (E0BtF)

495 "China has the manpower, but no means of transporting them across the Pacific to conquer."

Really big trebuchets?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 18, 2016 11:54 AM (ptqRm)

496 Should be an odd Pacific War Part II.

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The last one cost us a lot man and treasure. I just presume avoid a new one. Of course that would require a projection of American power.

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:54 AM (gmeXX)

497 Well before Chang's book, I had already read up on things like the execution of a US destroyer's surviving crew by the Japanese - only five beheaded bodies were found. The massacre of the 42 contractors at Wake Island. The suffering the Wake Marines endured in captivity. Fertig's book on the Philippine resistance. How after Midway the Japanese killed a Navy dive bomber pilot and dumped his body overboard. How three Doolittle Raiders were shot in Shanghai by a Japanese firing squad after a kangaroo court found them guilty of war crimes.

Bridge on the River Kwai, Baa Baa Blacksheep, Return from the River Kwai, and Prisoners of the Japanese were all read before Chang's book. And after her book came such as The Rescue and Unbroken.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 11:54 AM (P6IAq)

498 Anybody else love getting the little pop-ups in article online,
"Oh, it looks like you're using an ad-blocker, would you mind turning it off?"

FYNQ.....

Posted by: IP at July 18, 2016 11:55 AM (Fol9S)

499 Don't tell me what they used to be. Tell who THEY ARE TODAY!

Crappy lying journalism. BIRM

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at July 18, 2016 11:55 AM (/XV2Z)

500 Local woman with an urban accent says on radio that evidence doesn't matter, and all the Baltimore Cops should have been hanged.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 18, 2016 11:56 AM (ptqRm)

501 I have a stomach ache. I'm going to go buy some shoes

Is that an example of a non sequitur?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.


"This is your brain on estrogen".

*ducks and runs*

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 11:56 AM (E0BtF)

502 From what I have heard, Japan has had nukes that require very little assembly for quite awhile.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at July 18, 2016 11:56 AM (E8UjU)

503 >> This movie will be in the $5 DVD bin at Wal-Mart by Christmas.

I have $10 that says "by Labor Day".
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 11:43 AM


When you win, you'll have one copy for yourself, and one you could donate to Ace's Hobo Safari Fund Raffle.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Help & Support Desk at July 18, 2016 11:56 AM (AEEhl)

504 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 11:54 AM (P6IAq)

So you pretty much have to work up to it by building a tolerance?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2016 11:56 AM (GDulk)

505 5 China has nukes, Japan doesn't. Unless Japan is sure we would back them (and I would not be so sure), I would bet on China.
Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 11:48 AM (gmeXX)


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Japan has Gozzira. China doesn't.

Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2016 11:56 AM (Fmupd)

506 Japan has Ultraman, China doesn't.>>>

And Me!

Posted by: Godzilla at July 18, 2016 11:57 AM (aVYsC)

507 Trump said he would be ok with Japan getting nukes. Plus everyone admits
Japan could have a reasonable nuke arsenal within a year or two. Heck
they are probably building one now.
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Back in the day when that NK Taepong overshot Japan (199, a well-placed Japanese government official stated that his country could build 200 devices very quickly.

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2016 11:57 AM (JBggj)

508 I don't like the fact that they can detect that I am using an ad blocker.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 11:57 AM (Doh4+)

509 >>> require very little assembly


That's what IKEA says too...

Posted by: IP at July 18, 2016 11:57 AM (Fol9S)

510 You're welcome Moki.
There's still some good out there.
My friends and their kids keep me going.
God, please don't let things come to what it looks like they're coming to.
Even though I know they must.

Posted by: teej at July 18, 2016 11:57 AM (DEtB+)

511 I'm surprised there hasn't been an incident between India & Pakistan yet this year. I mean, why the hell not? The rest of the world is getting in on the Events.

Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 11:57 AM (7HtZB)

512 480: Probably. I've heard some theories that Taiwan actually does have nukes, it's just kept secret. If one of those 3 goes publicly nuclear (or open secret nuclear a'la Israel) the other 2 go nuclear within a year, minimum. Then things get interesting...

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 11:57 AM (Lyh9/)

513 From what I have heard, Japan has had nukes that require very little assembly for quite awhile.
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at July 18, 2016 11:56 AM (E8UjU)



There's a cartoon from I would say late 80s early 90s that was of a Japanese nuclear plant and it was of a lever that had two settings.

Peace and War.

Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (mf5HN)

514 #507 1998

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (JBggj)

515 The Japanese prime minister belongs to a group that Champions Japan as the heroes of World War II, and they are in the process of changing their constitution to get rid of Western ideas of the sanctity of life and to democracy and other such things that stand in the way of their rebirth as a regional power.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 11:03 AM (E0BtF)



Nope.

I was just over in Japan for a couple of weeks.

There is absolutely no call for Japan to "the process of changing their constitution to get rid of Western ideas of the sanctity of life and to democracy and other such things that stand in the way of their rebirth as a regional power.".


What there is is a call for Japan to be able to defend itself against Chinese/North Korean attack because (and this remains publicly unsaid)-

TFG has proven that he( and thus the U.S.) is an untrustworthy ally should the Chinese/North Koreans attack.

You can't do what Oblabla and Hillary! have done and expect people to hope and pray that they will be saved by those clowns.

The Rape of Nanking has as much relevance/responsibility for the average Japanese person of today as slavery does to the average white person of today. That is to say close to zero.

What does have relevance to the average Japanese is that China is increasingly aggressive in a frank military fashion toward Japan, up to and including seizing islands traditionally considered part of Japan.

Imagine the Chinese seizing one of the minor Hawaiian islands with TFG in charge.

What's your confidence level that he would do what was necessary to get that island back?

What people are mistaking is what's necessary in Japanese domestic politics with a statement of policy-

the Japanese have their equivalent to the Democrat party, who always use the Rape of Nanking and other WWII era actions as the Democrats use slavery as a constant excuse for keeping Japan unarmed.

The PM is minimizing that whole era because he wants the nation of Japan and its people to survive in the face of actual contemporary Chinese/North Korean aggression. So, he needs to change the Constitution as it stand to get that ability. Thus needs to talk over the "Japanese Democrats".

Simple as that.

Does anyone believe that if McCain or Romney had been elected over TFG that we would be at this point with America considered an unreliable ally?

No we would not.

Just another wonderful side-effect of this glorious era of Hope and Change.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (0cMkb)

516 I guess it could be a script that runs if an ad blocker is present, and they don't know ... but I'll assume maximum creep value and not read their crap.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (Doh4+)

517 "Unbroken" was a tough book to read. Didn't see the movie because I learned everything I needed to know from the book. Didn't need to see it on the screen.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (1ZOkK)

518 They continued to nod and smile "sweetly" as I forced myself in. Assholes, all of them.

Son said the native Okinawans have a particular dislike of the Japanese, for obvious reasons.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:50 AM (1ZOkK)


Some people, some cultures only respect strength. I think traditional Japanese culture is very similar to the Arab/Muslim cultures of the Mideast. You don't talk to them, you don't reason with them, you don't explain to them the wonders of diversity to them, you knock them out of the way. And if they give you any lip, you give them a fat lip.

This is what I call a "can-do" foreign policy.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (HA9zO)

519
Ultraman.
Now that is a very much missed blast from the past.


Ultraman and the kitty.

http://tinyurl.com/h5dxjef

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (IqV8l)

520 So hours after three Baton Rouge officers are murdered, this motherfucker calls on police to admit their mistakes? Fuck you, Barry!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (bc7LP)

521 Japan has a Nuclear infrastructure and world class laboratories.

We created the first atomic bombs in 4 years using 1940's technology....

If Japan wanted to go Nuclear... it would not take long at all....

I'd wager the plan and parts are already in place.... (it would be dumb for them NOT to have a plan in place).
Posted by: Don Q. at July 18, 2016 11:52 AM (qf6WZ)

I remember a quote, someone asked a 'Japan expert' how long it would take them to get the bomb if they resolved to do it. He said : "About a week." This was during one of the periodic Chinese saber rattling exercises around 10-15 years ago.

As I understand it, it is never the theory, the difficulty lies in the raw materials- and the engineering expertise. The same article detailed that it is not just getting your hands on the right types of Uranium, it is getting the explosives to work just right.

If you watch the documentary "Trinity and Beyond: an atomic bomb movie" you will notice that little boy was a very simple weapon that they were pretty confident would work without testing. Fat Man was the first of what we think of as the classic implosion method- this is what they tested at Trinity.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (3ZoRf)

522 Right. Used to be. Until China started flexing its muscles. Having King Putt as our CiC is not doing anything to help world stability.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:48 AM (HA9zO)

------------------------------------------------------------

I think it is pretty obvious at this point a alliance structure of: Indian-Vietnam-Japan-Philippines will be built to counter Chinese ambitions. The United States and Australia, perhaps other will help when needed for their self interests.

The Chinese will have Pakistan on their side. Maybe Cambodia who has historical problems with Vietnam.

Really the Chinese in my view are making a strategic blunder by making too many demands to fast. Also, the North Korean vs. South Korean situation prevents China from having a close relationship with the South like they could.

The Chinese strategically would benefit by dumping the North and making a deal with the South. However, the CCP fears a unified, and democratic Korea on its border.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (KhJh8)

523 495 "China has the manpower, but no means of transporting them across the Pacific to conquer."

Really big trebuchets?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 18, 2016 11:54 AM (ptqRm)


During WW2, we created a World dominating Navy, Transports, and enough landing craft to support TWO fronts... in about 3 years...

We are so used to thinking in terms of todays US manufacturing methods, that we forget how easy it is to build less sophisticated, but workable, military equipment.

Posted by: Don Q. at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (qf6WZ)

524 Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 11:57 AM (Doh4+)

I'm sure the ability to do that became a priority as soon as ad blockers became common, possibly as soon as they became available.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2016 11:59 AM (GDulk)

525 So Ryan is in trouble for not having diverse enough interns....

Posted by: donna at July 18, 2016 11:59 AM (O2RFr)

526 A China-Japan redline could be crossed if the Chinese pray a joke and put pee-pee in Japan's Coke...

just sayin'.

Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2016 12:00 PM (Bdeb0)

527 When I was in B-school in the 80s about 20% of my class was Japanese. I was impressed by them. They mostly already knew everything we were supposed to be learning as undergrads at Tokyo U. They were in America to improve their English and to learn to golf and ski, which are prohibitively expensive in Japan.

And they are collectivist, not individualistic. I am individualistic but I was amazed by how the hive mind works.

At the end of the first semester another American and I went out for beers with two Japanese. We were talking about which courses to take the next term. The Japanese knew everything about all the courses and all the professors. (I have always been a sort of "what looks good in the catalog?" guy).

I asked how they knew all this stuff. They said, "when one Japanese knows something, we all know it".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 12:00 PM (1xUj/)

528 Some people, some cultures only respect strength. I think traditional Japanese culture is very similar to the Arab/Muslim cultures of the Mideast. You don't talk to them, you don't reason with them, you don't explain to them the wonders of diversity to them, you knock them out of the way. And if they give you any lip, you give them a fat lip.

This is what I call a "can-do" foreign policy.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (HA9zO)

They're both honor/shame societies. Big difference between them & Judeo-Christian societies.

Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 12:00 PM (7HtZB)

529 517 "Unbroken" was a tough book to read. Didn't see the movie because I learned everything I needed to know from the book. Didn't need to see it on the screen.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (1ZOkK)


The movie, which I saw, was sort of a two-dimensional version of the book. It was a good movie, mostly*, but if you've read the book, you don't need to see it.

* the actor that played Watanabe was all wrong for the part, in my opinion.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 12:01 PM (HA9zO)

530 512 480: Probably. I've heard some theories that Taiwan actually does have nukes, it's just kept secret. If one of those 3 goes publicly nuclear (or open secret nuclear a'la Israel) the other 2 go nuclear within a year, minimum. Then things get interesting...

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 11:57 AM (Lyh9/)

I wrote a scenario for an exercise -- one of the little islets essentially equi-distant between RoK, Jap, and Taiwan is the site of a nuclear weapon test. However, no one claims responsibility. All three have active info-war ops blaming the others.

Who did it? What does the US do? What does China do?

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 12:02 PM (Doh4+)

531 Good grief. "Outnumbered" looks like they're in a typhoon.

And there they go with the "former Marine" killer crap.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 12:03 PM (1ZOkK)

532 Who did it? What does the US do? What does China do?
=================

The first thing Japan would do is build a ring of X-band Early Warning stations around the Home Islands and ... oh, wait.

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2016 12:04 PM (JBggj)

533 There's a cartoon from I would say late 80s early 90s that was of a Japanese nuclear plant and it was of a lever that had two settings. Peace and War. Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (mf5HN)

That's Iran.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 18, 2016 12:04 PM (VdICR)

534 522: If you look at China's borders, they're dominated by old eastern bloc kleptocracies/dictatorships/or nonthreatening 3rd world states. The only exception is India. It seems to me china is uncomfortable with western style democracies on their borders. That is one of the biggest reasons they have continued to prop up the Norks. That and the fact they have a sizeable Korean population on the north bank of the Yalu.

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 12:04 PM (Lyh9/)

535 Chinese pray a joke and put pee-pee in Japan's Coke...
____________________

(spews Coke, grabs samurai sword)

Posted by: Japan at July 18, 2016 12:04 PM (4AVeu)

536 One of the personal stories recounted in the sixth book of The Dutch in War Time this Dutch woman briefly mentions how her sister was used by the Japanese as a 'comfort woman'

And how can I forget that never damned enough piece of human excrement Provoo? But I learned of him in Prisoners of the Japanese. An American who willingly served the Japanese and was telling Americans after Wainright's surrender such things as all Western women should give it up for the Japanese.*

*And now that I think about it, a lot of the 'elites' in Europe seem to feel the same way when it comes to Muslims raping the locals.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 12:04 PM (P6IAq)

537 Quick observation:

For people on the right, all you have to do to be called a terrorist is be a person on the right.

For people on the left, you can publicly state your intentions to commit violence, you can associate yourself with a group that publicly states its intention to pursue violence, and that group can subsequently commit multiple acts of violence at the same time members of that group are meeting with the President and still not be called a terrorist.

I guess it must be good to be a leftist.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at July 18, 2016 12:05 PM (4ng05)

538 Bridge on the River Kwai, Baa Baa Blacksheep, Return from the River Kwai, and Prisoners of the Japanese were all read before Chang's book. And after her book came such as The Rescue and Unbroken.

Posted by: Anna Puma


Let us not forget that the two largest newspapers in Japan closely tracked a competition between two Japanese officers during the invasion of China over which of those two men could decapitate a hundred Chinese first. Both papers published daily articles tracking the headcount, so to speak

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest_to_kill_100_people_using_a_sword

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 12:05 PM (E0BtF)

539 And there they go with the "former Marine" killer crap.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 12:03 PM (1ZOkK)

That's been the headline... No mention of His radical hate for "Crackas."

Posted by: donna at July 18, 2016 12:05 PM (O2RFr)

540 movie, which I saw, was sort of a two-dimensional version of the book. It was a good movie, mostly*, but if you've read the book, you don't need to see it.


-
Religion was a big part of the book and essentially nonexistent in the movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 18, 2016 12:05 PM (NyGXG)

541 As I understand it, it is never the theory, the difficulty lies in the raw materials- and the engineering expertise. The same article detailed that it is not just getting your hands on the right types of Uranium, it is getting the explosives to work just right.


That's if you are building an implosion device. We didn't even test the Little Boy cannon style because we knew it would work.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 12:05 PM (evdj2)

542 >>That is one of the biggest reasons they have continued to prop up the Norks. Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 12:04 PM (Lyh9/)

There's an academic in S. Korea, B.R. Myers, who has written some very interesting stuff about North Korea. Youtube has a really good interview video of him--worth a watch if you're interested in N. Korean culture/propaganda...

Posted by: General Zod at July 18, 2016 12:06 PM (Bdeb0)

543 536
One of the personal stories recounted in the sixth book of The Dutch in War Time this Dutch woman briefly mentions how her sister was used by the Japanese as a 'comfort woman'


Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 12:04 PM (P6IAq)


In addition to denying the rape of Nanking, the Japanese PM is denying there were ever "comfort women."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 12:06 PM (1ZOkK)

544 Okay, China and Japan.

Whoever can say "yellow lollipop" three times fast wins.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 18, 2016 12:07 PM (4AVeu)

545 And they are collectivist, not individualistic. I am individualistic but I was amazed by how the hive mind works.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 12:00 PM (1xUj/)

I went to Japan on a business trip with one of my Japanese bosses. While getting drunk one night (We think college kids are champs, these guys are professionals) he brought up gun ownership.

He asked me if I had any guns, and I said I did. He asked me what I had and I told him I had both a shotgun as well as a handgun. He then asked me why I felt I needed them.

I first brought out the "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." But then I went into the fundamental difference in how the culture seems to look at things. A Japanese guy will look at things and say "How can WE fix them." Whereas in the west, it has usually been "How can I fix them." It is a fundamentally different way of looking at the world.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2016 12:07 PM (3ZoRf)

546 Religion was a big part of the book and essentially nonexistent in the movie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 18, 2016 12:05 PM (NyGXG)


Exactly. But I knew from the outset that that would be the case.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 18, 2016 12:07 PM (HA9zO)

547 It happened some time during World War II. The little fighter plane approached the massive aircraft carrier, then landed on the deck. The pilot got out of his plane, and the carrier's commander went out to meet him.

"Sir," said the pilot, saluting the commander sharply, "I think I deserve a medal or something. I have just met in combat and downed five Japanese planes, all without making a single mistake."

"Oh so?" answered the commander. "Me think you make one mistake!"

Posted by: Kevin DuBrow at July 18, 2016 12:08 PM (bMcUX)

548 Clearing Tabs

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manatees
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Posted by: DaveA at July 18, 2016 12:08 PM (8J/Te)

549 I wrote a scenario for an exercise -- one of the little islets essentially equi-distant between RoK, Jap, and Taiwan is the site of a nuclear weapon test. However, no one claims responsibility. All three have active info-war ops blaming the others.

Who did it? What does the US do? What does China do?

Posted by: Jean


I would like to read that, if you're willing to share, Jean. PeterJVaughn1963@ gmail.com

Thx.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 12:09 PM (E0BtF)

550 Sharkman, why read Wiki when Chang recounts that murder spree in her book? Along with a Chinese woman who managed to make it to the International area, with the Western missionaries, after being raped and bayoneted multiple times.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 12:09 PM (P6IAq)

551 Okay, China and Japan.

Whoever can say "yellow lollipop" three times fast wins.


Yerrow rorripop Yerrow rorripop Yerrow rorripop

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 18, 2016 12:09 PM (m/IZ9)

552 They're both honor/shame societies. Big difference between them & Judeo-Christian societies.

Posted by: josephistan at July 18, 2016 12:00 PM (7HtZB)


Actually.... the Christian world up until about 1870 still ran on Honor, and shame....

Posted by: Don Q. at July 18, 2016 12:09 PM (qf6WZ)

553 530: Plausible deniability for all 3. The possibility that Taiwan was nuclear would especially unnerve and frustrate the Chinese for the simple fact any Taiwanese nuclear arsenal would be optimized like the Samson Option in Israel, only easier, because hitting the 3 Gorges Dam with a single nuke would knock China back to 3rd world status PDQ.

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 12:10 PM (Lyh9/)

554 We are so used to thinking in terms of todays US manufacturing methods, that we forget how easy it is to build less sophisticated, but workable, military equipment.
Posted by: Don Q. at July 18, 2016 11:58 AM (qf6WZ)


-----------------


This is true. Even our aircraft of the time (except, perhaps, the B29) were built to only have a very limited lifetime. They found a nice balance between simplicity and effectiveness.

Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2016 12:10 PM (Fmupd)

555 Heh. "Outnumbered." They're about to blow away.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 12:11 PM (1ZOkK)

556 It is a fundamentally different way of looking at the world.

Posted by: Aetius451AD



Yes it is.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 12:11 PM (1xUj/)

557 And I need to scamper.

I need to write story. Which is not set in the fetid jungles of New Guinea nor the frigid cold of Hokkaido in winter.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 12:11 PM (P6IAq)

558 557
And I need to scamper.

I need to write story. Which is not set in the fetid jungles of New Guinea nor the frigid cold of Hokkaido in winter.


Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 12:11 PM (P6IAq)


Fever swamp of DC?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 12:12 PM (1ZOkK)

559 I nap out for two hours and come back to find this still the top thread (250 comments later)??

I hereby volunteer to be willowed.

Posted by: mindful webworker - take me out, coach! I'm ready! at July 18, 2016 12:13 PM (OZZ16)

560 Ultraman and the kitty.

http://tinyurl.com/h5dxjef


I do believe that is the cutest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 12:13 PM (E0BtF)

561 75

I veer off as often as I can, when the spirit moves me, and circumstances allow. Do have end destination.

Driving across country alone, 2 good side trips. In Arkansas, bored, found beautiful Ozark lake in September. Driving southern route to CA decided to go to CO to see sister. Changed route took me to NM (never been before) and my first encounter with a singular mesa. Got out. No sounds. Just simple beauty. Nice.

But you gots to be aware!

Love the pix. Evokes much.



Posted by: gracepc at July 18, 2016 12:13 PM (OU4q6)

562 542: I was actually going to post a link to the wiki entry on Songbun earlier to show just how much of an out and out fascist state the DPRK is and to show just why the other eastern bloc nations were a little uncomfortable with them being on their side.

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 12:14 PM (Lyh9/)

563 Aetius451AD, Japan has all the expertise needed and enough special materials to do it. She can do everything except conduct a full systems test.

RoK and Taiwan have enough expertise, but less special materials. They can also do everything except test.

My guess:

Japan has 2 or 3 dozen weapons, in a second or third generation form. Small and deliverable. I suspect they could ramp up to 100 or so in a year.

RoK probably has about 10 weapons, likely in a simple form for air delivery or use as ADMs. They are probably working very hard on smaller versions.

Taiwan probably has less than 5 weapons, in a relatively simple form.

I doubt the PLA can safely assume anything less than the above. Once you determine they have intent and basic engineering competency -- you just count the reactor cores.

Maybe they don't; but can you bet against it.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 12:14 PM (Doh4+)

564 I hereby volunteer to be willowed.


Are you an 'Ette?

Because this would be where we say "show us your tits".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 12:14 PM (1xUj/)

565 Sometimes I wonder if America of 2016 has even as much industrial infrastructure as America circa 1941, specially the heavy stuff.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at July 18, 2016 12:15 PM (3X3ZR)

566 Sometimes I wonder if America of 2016 has even as much industrial infrastructure as America circa 1941, specially the heavy stuff

-------------

What do you mean by infrastructure - sheer amount of factories?

We produce quite a bit of heavy stuff here.

Posted by: SH at July 18, 2016 12:16 PM (gmeXX)

567 Did Ace forget to set his Scooby Doo Alarm Clock?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 18, 2016 12:16 PM (2PHKP)

568
Okay, Theresa May just told the weenies in Parliament that they need Trident and their enemies need to know that they are prepared to use them. Vapors!

https://goo.gl/nXaulN

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 12:17 PM (iQIUe)

569 >>>>During WW2, we created a World dominating Navy, Transports, and enough
landing craft to support TWO fronts... in about 3 years...



We are so used to thinking in terms of todays US manufacturing
methods, that we forget how easy it is to build less sophisticated, but
workable, military equipment.
.
.
.
.Plus we never went to a full Wartime footing, not like Germany, Russia and Japan did. We didn't have to.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 12:17 PM (iONHu)

570 Plausible deniability for all 3. The possibility that Taiwan was nuclear would especially unnerve and frustrate the Chinese for the simple fact any Taiwanese nuclear arsenal would be optimized like the Samson Option in Israel, only easier, because hitting the 3 Gorges Dam with a single nuke would knock China back to 3rd world status PDQ.

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 12:10 PM (Lyh9/)



Yup.

Any serious war (clarifying point) against a serious country would be a disaster for China.

Their massive dam system is ripe for sequential hits that would create a massive wave of water wiping out significant amounts of people, industry, and leave them without power.

Although, with sheer massive manpower and low tech military transport and weaponry-

they could easily overwhelm any neighbors...if they were really serious about it.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 18, 2016 12:17 PM (0cMkb)

571 He was a famous Utah artist who painted this during the Great Depression. I believe he also taught painting at the University of Utah in the mid-20th century. He also did a number of beautiful landscapes. One of my favorite artists.

Posted by: Sallyo at July 18, 2016 12:18 PM (ARdbK)

572 560
Ultraman and the kitty.



http://tinyurl.com/h5dxjef





I do believe that is the cutest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 12:13 PM (E0BtF)


I'm dying from the cuteness overload.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2016 12:18 PM (1ZOkK)

573 563: I wouldn't overlook the possibility of all 3 of them having thermonuclear weapons as well. Especially Taiwan.

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 12:18 PM (Lyh9/)

574

Turkish police searching NATO airbase.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 12:19 PM (iQIUe)

575 How'd they get the telegraph wires to be so straight?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 18, 2016 09:28 AM (NeFrd)


Good eye, Seamus.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2016 12:19 PM (GSdpU)

576 they could easily overwhelm any neighbors...if they were really serious about it.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 18, 2016 12:17 PM (0cMkb)

Although in the above scenario, they would also be vulnerable to internal factionalism. They keep a tight lid on things, but how well would that work when the dams burst?

You are right though, a Pyrrhic victory might be what they got.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2016 12:20 PM (3ZoRf)

577 Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at July 18, 2016 12:15 PM (3X3ZR)

Pretty sure it doesn't. Power generation would be a real issue too. The coal burning plants weren't mothballed, they were demolished. That means a potentially fatal delay in getting on a *true* war-footing. I hope that is an unanticipated side effect of leftist policies, but am not at all sure it wasn't very much a feature.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2016 12:20 PM (GDulk)

578 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3695849/

Largest nuclear weapons storage facility in NATO?

Posted by: JEM at July 18, 2016 12:20 PM (o+SC1)

579 >>>>Okay, Theresa May just told the weenies in Parliament that they need
Trident and their enemies need to know that they are prepared to use
them. Vapors!

.
.
.
.Wow, she has big balls! Margret Thatcher is smiling in her grave.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 12:21 PM (iONHu)

580
Nice attacker Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel watched Isis beheading videos and dated 73-year-old man

http://goo.gl/K2u3zt

===========
Cheap date?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 18, 2016 12:21 PM (iQIUe)

581 Basic industry.

Making steel, making big castings / forgings, industrial chemistry, mining and refining metals .... stuff like that.

I see a lot of big fabricating, but they're using materials made in other countries.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at July 18, 2016 12:21 PM (3X3ZR)

582 I would like to read that, if you're willing to share, Jean. PeterJVaughn1963@ gmail.com

Thx.

Posted by: Sharkman

I did it for a customer, so I can't send it on.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 12:21 PM (Doh4+)

583 Turkish police searching NATO airbase.

Huh?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 18, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)

584 570: Hence the reason why all 3 of those states going nuclear would permanently constrain China's ambitions. A small state with a decent nuclear capability acts as a counterweight to a larger state with greater manpower. Again, see the Israelis and the Samson option for how that works.

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 12:22 PM (Lyh9/)

585 Anyone ever feel sorry for old Pyrrhus? Your name goes down in history, but also becomes the definition to winning at disastrous cost.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2016 12:22 PM (3ZoRf)

586
Painting reminded me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmOe27SJ3Yc

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 18, 2016 12:23 PM (ODxAs)

587 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 12:21 PM (iONHu)

I'm impressed since the talk was that she was anti-Brexit and might spike the plan. Instead it looks like she lulled the opposition into a false sense of security and then made them beg for their mommies.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2016 12:23 PM (GDulk)

588
Okay, Theresa May just told the weenies in Parliament that they need
Trident


Might help the British teeth.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 18, 2016 12:24 PM (IqV8l)

589 looking for 42 missing helos?

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 12:24 PM (Doh4+)

590 >>> and dated 73-year-old man


That's disgusting.

Posted by: Anna Nicole at July 18, 2016 12:24 PM (Fol9S)

591 I wouldn't overlook the possibility of all 3 of them having thermonuclear weapons as well. Especially Taiwan.

Do they have Tritium?

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 12:24 PM (evdj2)

592 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 12:21 PM (iONHu)


Maggie Deux!

Posted by: gracepc at July 18, 2016 12:25 PM (OU4q6)

593 579: Between that, shuttering the climate change dept., and hiring David Davis as her lead man on the Brexit (He was a major mover in that campaign), methinks she's sending a message to her base that she's making a clean break with Cameron's Labour-lite policies.

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 12:25 PM (Lyh9/)

594 "Okay, Theresa May just told the weenies in Parliament that they need
Trident and their enemies need to know that they are prepared to use
them. Vapors!"

I was reading some comments on a Facebook link from a UK publication about her. Some were saying she was like the Mitt Romney of the UK. Maybe she kept this side of her under wraps?

Posted by: Serenity Now! at July 18, 2016 12:25 PM (BDZWU)

595
re: Typos

Turns out, accidentally mistyping HotSir.com instead of the intended HotAir.com will give you quite a different perspective on the morning's news.

Certainly more leather-clad gay "puppy play" than you find at Ed's place. Except when Ed is off broadcasting his remotes at the Minnesota State Fair. Then -- anything goes at that place.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 18, 2016 12:26 PM (kdS6q)

596 >>> they are prepared to use
them.


This just in...JEF hardest hit.

Posted by: IP at July 18, 2016 12:27 PM (Fol9S)

597 B+rry's doubling down on blaming cops.

Can we impeach him now?

Posted by: torabora at July 18, 2016 12:27 PM (t9KMb)

598
workable, military equipment.
.
.
.
.Plus we never went to a full Wartime footing, not like Germany, Russia and Japan did. We didn't have to.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 12:17 PM (iONHu)


---------------

Yes. We did.

Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2016 12:27 PM (Fmupd)

599 I was reading some comments on a Facebook link from a UK publication about her. Some were saying she was like the Mitt Romney of the UK. Maybe she kept this side of her under wraps?

Posted by: Serenity Now! at July 18, 2016 12:25 PM (BDZWU)

It would be refreshing to see a stealth ultra conservative/libertarian.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2016 12:27 PM (3ZoRf)

600 Police Can 'Make the Job of Being a Cop a Lot Safer' by Admitting Their Failures

Police have controls, Barry, you vapid fuckwit.

How about how much better black America could make itself if it would confront the fact that too many of their young males are violent criminals (and that's not the fault of other people)?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 18, 2016 12:27 PM (QlyN5)

601 How come B+rry is blaming cops when he could blame guns?

Posted by: torabora at July 18, 2016 12:28 PM (t9KMb)

602 Well, from what I've seen Taiwanese seem the most western friendly. They seem to love western culture and items from what I've heard.

Posted by: lindafell- TEXIT!! at July 18, 2016 12:28 PM (xVgrA)

603 597
B+rry's doubling down on blaming cops.



Can we impeach him now?

Posted by: torabora at July 18, 2016 12:27 PM (t9KMb)

racist

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 18, 2016 12:28 PM (2PHKP)

604 I wouldn't overlook the possibility of all 3 of them having thermonuclear weapons as well. Especially Taiwan.

Do they have Tritium?

Posted by: Grump928(c)

Japan does, I havent looked up RoK and Taiwan. Partially, why I said they have simpler forms. Don't need tritium enhancement to make lakes north of Seoul.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 12:28 PM (Doh4+)

605 Nude Fight Thread

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at July 18, 2016 12:28 PM (evdj2)

606 Maybe Gaylord's vapidware is finally stuck in a loop.

Jane D'Oh, oh no not going anywhere near DC if I can help it. Egypt actually.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 18, 2016 12:30 PM (P6IAq)

607 We were on pretty heavy wartime footing. Rationing (that would be entertaining these days with the special snowflakes), liberty gardens, people saving their fats for use in explosives. Kids bringing in scrap metal with their wagons. Copper shortages, rubber shortages.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2016 12:30 PM (3ZoRf)

608 She gave her employees cancer just to watch them die!.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 12:30 PM (Doh4+)

609 591: Don't know, but if they have reactors, they could probably start manufacturing quickly. Are they even a party to the nonproliferation treaty? If not, they could have a stash of the stuff. You could make lithium deuteride easy enough using seawater and lithium. Add fissile core and you have the components for a thermonuclear weapon. In Taiwan's case bigger would be more effective as a deterrent.

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 12:31 PM (Lyh9/)

610 We were on pretty heavy wartime footing. Rationing (that would be entertaining these days with the special snowflakes), liberty gardens, people saving their fats for use in explosives. Kids bringing in scrap metal with their wagons. Copper shortages, rubber shortages.

Posted by: Aetius451AD


I think by wartime footing, he meant 14yo's rounding out infantry battalions. While the rest of the population starves.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 12:32 PM (Doh4+)

611 Me: I hereby volunteer to be willowed.

That worked so well that two new threads appeared!

Bandersnatch: Are you an 'Ette? Because this would be where we say "show us your tits".

You really don't want to see my old moobs.

They are sexagenarian, though.

Posted by: mindful webworker - it ain't about sex at July 18, 2016 12:33 PM (OZZ16)

612 594: She's got bigger balls than Mittens, that's for sure. Supposedly, she was pro exit privately. She publically backed stay out of loyalty to Cameron.

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 12:34 PM (Lyh9/)

613 Here is a video from last night of Sheriff David Clarke bitch slapping and damn near making Don Lemon of CNN cry.

===

I love Sheriff Clarke. What a real man!!

Posted by: Lurkette at July 18, 2016 12:34 PM (PLmfk)

614 Turn it up.


http://tinyurl.com/jp4r6ao

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 18, 2016 10:01 AM (F1iXz)


Hank Snow was a Canuck, from Nova Scotia. Great singer, and a legend of country music.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2016 12:34 PM (GSdpU)

615 Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2016 12:30 PM (3ZoRf)

I've seen statements in the last couple of years that a lot of those thing weren't actually necessary but were part of propaganda efforts to keep the populace involved. Not sure what data backed up the claims though.

On the other hand, if Americans felt like they were sacrificing to fight the war on terror, I suspect that would make it much moe immediate to those of us not actively involved.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2016 12:35 PM (GDulk)

616 >> We were on pretty heavy wartime footing. Rationing (that
>> would be entertaining these days with the special
>> snowflakes), liberty gardens, people saving their fats for
>> use in explosives. Kids bringing in scrap metal with their
>> wagons. Copper shortages, rubber shortages.

US govt relied pretty heavily on private industry but wasn't above a little coercion when a company wasn't pulling its weight in the war effort - the most famous (and fairly modest) case probably reconstituting the management of Ford, booting the senile elder Ford, Bennett, and their minions in favor of grandson Deuce.

Posted by: JEM at July 18, 2016 12:36 PM (o+SC1)

617
This is true. Even our aircraft of the time (except, perhaps, the B29) were built to only have a very limited lifetime. They found a nice balance between simplicity and effectiveness.
Posted by: Soona at July 18, 2016 12:10 PM (Fmupd)



The M4 Sherman is another example

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 18, 2016 12:38 PM (lKyWE)

618 Posted by: Sharkman

I did it for a customer, so I can't send it on.
Posted by: Jean


Darn the luck.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 18, 2016 12:39 PM (E0BtF)

619 I've seen statements in the last couple of years that a lot of those thing weren't actually necessary but were part of propaganda efforts to keep the populace involved. Not sure what data backed up the claims though.

On the other hand, if Americans felt like they were sacrificing to fight the war on terror, I suspect that would make it much moe immediate to those of us not actively involved.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2016 12:35 PM (GDulk)

I have seen the same things. I think they are missing the point.

Hearts and minds of the homefront can sometimes be as important as the front lines if you do not attend to it (although battles obviously do matter more.) Even if having everyone save their brown fats (a radio commercial I heard from Bing Crosby online) does not help (I am betting they got everything dropped off) it energizes the people. It gives everyone skin in the game.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2016 12:43 PM (3ZoRf)

620 >> She's got bigger balls than Mittens, that's for sure.
>> Supposedly, she was pro exit privately. She publically
>> backed stay out of loyalty to Cameron.

May is saying and doing a lot of the right things.

Some disquiet over how Osborne got booted, but he'd made himself radioactive with his 'punishment budget'.

She also made sure to pull Gove's chair away before the music stopped; Gove's bizarre last-minute defenestration of Boris reflected poorly on his judgment, but to then stand for the leadership himself shredded his reputation completely.


She gave Boris the Foreign Office, where he'll be dealing regularly with people he's spent the last decade lampooning in the press.

She axed DECC, the term 'climate' no longer appears in the name of a Cabinet office.

Posted by: JEM at July 18, 2016 12:44 PM (o+SC1)

621 Looks like Ol' Hickory needs some exercise.

Posted by: Fritz at July 18, 2016 12:45 PM (oia+s)

622 >>>>Plus we never went to a full Wartime footing, not like Germany, Russia and Japan did. We didn't have to.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 12:17 PM (iONHu)





---------------



Yes. We did.
.
.
.
.No we didn't. We didn't even come close to what other Countries had to do. Most estimates put the US Wartime Economy at 70-80% of the GDP. In most other Countries it was 100%, Germany and Japan exceeded that during part of the War because of all of their conquered territories. Nothing was made for Civilian use other than food and medicines in Germany, Russia or Japan. The Governments were seizing factories making civilian goods to make war materials without regard to profits or control of corporations.

Americans had all sorts of things that Civilians in Germany, Russia and Japan didn't. They had gas for their cars, no other Country let Civilians have any gasoline or cars except for Doctors and critical Wartime personnel, and then only tiny amounts.

We never instituted any real food rationing like other Countries did.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 12:46 PM (iONHu)

623 May is saying and doing a lot of the right things.

Some disquiet over how Osborne got booted, but he'd made himself radioactive with his 'punishment budget'.

She also made sure to pull Gove's chair away before the music stopped; Gove's bizarre last-minute defenestration of Boris reflected poorly on his judgment, but to then stand for the leadership himself shredded his reputation completely.


She gave Boris the Foreign Office, where he'll be dealing regularly with people he's spent the last decade lampooning in the press.

She axed DECC, the term 'climate' no longer appears in the name of a Cabinet office.
Posted by: JEM at July 18, 2016 12:44 PM (o+SC1)

Is she single, and just a bit crazy?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2016 12:47 PM (3ZoRf)

624 Here's a link to photos of abandoned industrial sites:

http://bit.ly/1D7jHsw

I am Ozymandias . . . .

Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 18, 2016 10:31 AM (mf5HN)


Very cool indeed. There was a time that going underground in defunct mines was part of my work. And there are photos of me "spelunking" in the ruins of the closed Studebaker factory in South Bend. Those buildings now being gone.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2016 12:47 PM (GSdpU)

625 Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2016 12:43 PM (3ZoRf)

Which I think is something we are missing now, and really have been in every conflict since WW2 (except maybe Korea which I know very little about).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2016 12:49 PM (GDulk)

626 Ricardo Kill's story of moving the cows makes me nostalgic for something I have never experienced. Just a profound sadness when comparing a simple (maybe not so simple) chore to the effing reality of this effed up upside down world with that fuckstick still at the helm. Sorry.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 18, 2016 12:53 PM (CFc5L)

627 No we didn't. We didn't even come close to what other Countries had to do. Most estimates put the US Wartime Economy at 70-80% of the GDP. In most other Countries it was 100%, Germany and Japan exceeded that during part of the War because of all of their conquered territories. Nothing was made for Civilian use other than food and medicines in Germany, Russia or Japan. The Governments were seizing factories making civilian goods to make war materials without regard to profits or control of corporations.

Americans had all sorts of things that Civilians in Germany, Russia and Japan didn't. They had gas for their cars, no other Country let Civilians have any gasoline or cars except for Doctors and critical Wartime personnel, and then only tiny amounts.

We never instituted any real food rationing like other Countries did.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 12:46 PM (iONHu)

You make valid points, but in some cases their resources were already stretched before the war began.

For example, food supplies in the Soviet Union were not great to begin with even before the start of Barbarossa. The loss of so much of the farmed and industrialized western areas at the start of Barbarossa also caused a lot of problems. They were on the razor's edge, especially at the beginning.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2016 12:54 PM (3ZoRf)

628 Here's a link to photos of abandoned industrial sites:

http://bit.ly/1D7jHsw

I am Ozymandias . . . .

Posted by: alexthechick -Darth Sugartits at July 18, 2016 10:31 AM (mf5HN)

Thanks for the link, I find this stuff fascinating.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 18, 2016 12:56 PM (3ZoRf)

629 Sharkman, it would work as a nice fictional story.

Posted by: Jean at July 18, 2016 01:10 PM (Doh4+)

630 Family moved to La Grande in 19ought66 and lived in a rented 2 bedroom house about 50 feet from a main rail line.
Rent was real cheap. Bed went into cyclomassage mode 4 or 5 times a night after an earth shattering warning horn.
Note: If you are tired enough you can sleep through anything.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 18, 2016 01:12 PM (FtrY1)

631 Americans had all sorts of things that Civilians in Germany, Russia and Japan didn't.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 18, 2016 12:46 PM


And we did all sorts of things they didn't/wouldn't, like put our women into the workforce (cf. Rosie the Riveter).

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2016 01:22 PM (AEEhl)

632 Making steel, making big castings / forgings, industrial chemistry, mining and refining metals .... stuff like that.

I see a lot of big fabricating, but they're using materials made in other countries.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at July 18, 2016 12:21 PM (3X3ZR)


There is now not one lead smelter operating in the USA. You need bullets to fight a war. Scrap lead might tide you over until mines and smelters can be reopened and rebuilt. Maybe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2016 01:34 PM (GSdpU)

633 620: Firing Osborne was another signal to the base. He wasn't all that popular with them and was linked to Cameron pretty tightly.

Posted by: Jackal at July 18, 2016 02:04 PM (Lyh9/)

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Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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