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Saturday Morning Weird News Dump [Mis. Hum.]

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Here are a few things that didn't make The News Dump this past week.


Have a great weekend Morons. Play nice in the open thread.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:44 AM




Comments

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1 Morning

Posted by: Hanoverfist at July 16, 2016 07:49 AM (L62jT)

2 I love grumpy cat.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at July 16, 2016 07:52 AM (L62jT)

3 Grumpy cat is my spirit animal.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2016 07:53 AM (0mRoj)

4 Morning!

That's pretty much how I look this morning.. but with a hangover..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 16, 2016 07:53 AM (UpGcq)

5 Will Obama deport the PA Imam for allegedly fomenting a coup? Will he set that precedent? And the PA Imam is a big Hillary donor.

Trump should make some hay here

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 07:53 AM (zOTsN)

6 Cooking brisket in a bathtub! Maybe Julia Child can share her recipe with us in the Food thread.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersands and &&& so there) at July 16, 2016 07:54 AM (P8951)

7 Erdogun has been asking for Gulen to be deported since at least 2014. Gulen is a big Hillary donor. And now Erdogun is claiming Gulen fomented a coup of a NATO ally

What does Obama do?

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 07:56 AM (zOTsN)

8 Too bad for Turkey and the rest of the world the coup didn't succeed...

Maybe next time.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 16, 2016 07:56 AM (ej1L0)

9 I once took the vacation of a lifetime.

It was awful.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 07:57 AM (pGs/e)

10 A *fiberglass* tub.

Some people are just way too stupid.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 16, 2016 07:59 AM (+wjl1)

11 Bathtub brisket? Did they pass meat Prohibition when I wasn't paying attention?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2016 07:59 AM (0mRoj)

12 7 Erdogun has been asking for Gulen to be deported since at least 2014. Gulen is a big Hillary donor. And now Erdogun is claiming Gulen fomented a coup of a NATO ally

What does Obama do?
Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 07:56 AM (zOTsN)

Call for restraint then head out to the nearest Turkish bathhouse.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2016 08:00 AM (0mRoj)

13 7 Erdogun has been asking for Gulen to be deported since at least 2014. Gulen is a big Hillary donor. And now Erdogun is claiming Gulen fomented a coup of a NATO ally

What does Obama do?
Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 07:56 AM (zOTsN)

Force everybody to take his mark and worship his image.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:01 AM (Fp5Wm)

14
Slime idly should be banging in Gulen and that somebody is Trump

Gulen is a huge Hillary donor, he has contracts all over USAF bases for charter schools for Islamic military personnel, and he abuses the H1B1 visa program to import teachers from Turkey to work at charter schools on military bases



I don't really beleive he is behind this coup but so what

Will Obama deport an imam for tormenting a coup

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:02 AM (zOTsN)

15 In the previous thread Bruce discussed his trip to a memorial service with his wife and her lefty friend. Not once did any moron ask the vital question of whether or not there was the possibility of a three-way. I don't know you people any more.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at July 16, 2016 08:02 AM (22uju)

16 7 Erdogun has been asking for Gulen to be deported since at least 2014. Gulen is a big Hillary donor. And now Erdogun is claiming Gulen fomented a coup of a NATO ally

What does Obama do?
Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 07:56 AM (zOTsN

Conceded Iraq to Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:03 AM (Fp5Wm)

17 Slime idly is somebody. Jeez

Anyway. Trump could make hay with this if he's smart

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:03 AM (zOTsN)

18 What does Obama do?
Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 07:56 AM (zOTsN)

Some half-assed/hearted response. Blame white people, Islam is not a religion of hate, things must be worked out democratically, yadda, fucking yadda.

Wonder how much King Shit knew about this in advance.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 16, 2016 08:04 AM (voOPb)

19 Having breakfast in the midde of nowhere, Michigan. A lot of hard-working people here getting by, getting stuff done before winter hits. (winter?! Yeah, they're already preparing)

If there was a Day of Rage yesterday, they missed a spot.

Posted by: t-bird at July 16, 2016 08:05 AM (02ckt)

20 I don't know you people any more.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at July 16, 2016 08:02 AM (22uju)

Us evil and malicious so cons have taken over the blog again. I understand that H2 is still accepting applications for commenters.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 16, 2016 08:05 AM (WVsWD)

21
First box office numbers for Girl Ghostbusters are in for Friday and the Thursday sneeks:

https://tinyurl.com/zma5e2c

Officially "mediocre" at best. Since word of mouth is dismal, breaking even is iffy, since over the next couple of weeks there's completion from the new Trek and Jack Reacher movies, not to mention that fruity fish film.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2016 08:06 AM (kdS6q)

22 In re that story of the guy doing 65 in a 45 with no lights on, at night, while wearing a headlamp.

The cops didn't like it, and had his car towed from the arrest scene, but I give him extra points for McGyvering a workable solution to an apparent fuse issue late at night.

Posted by: MTF at July 16, 2016 08:06 AM (/m8T6)

23 Obama didn't know anything in advance. Erdogun is his buddy.

So. Deport an imam and set a precedent

Of keep him and have it pointed out Imam is a dem donor

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:06 AM (zOTsN)

24 Some woman thinks a pilot referring to stewardesses as" pretty young ladies" as sexual harassment? I wonder how she'd react to a supervisor (a clergyman) rubbing his hand up your leg and referring to one's husband saying , "So, when the cats away the mice will play?" Uhhh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2016 08:07 AM (bpZlE)

25 14
Slime idly should be banging in Gulen and that somebody is Trump

Gulen is a huge Hillary donor, he has contracts all over USAF bases for charter schools for Islamic military personnel, and he abuses the H1B1 visa program to import teachers from Turkey to work at charter schools on military bases



I don't really beleive he is behind this coup but so what

Will Obama deport an imam for tormenting a coup

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:02 AM (zOTsN)

Honestly, after last night, nothing would shock me next.

SMOD, UFO'S, FLAT EARTH, SKY NET..... EVERYTHING IS IN PLAY.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:08 AM (Fp5Wm)

26 23 Obama didn't know anything in advance. Erdogun is his buddy.
-----------------
I have no reason to doubt you ThunderB.

If he didn't know anything, quite the Intelligence community we have there. Nor

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 16, 2016 08:08 AM (voOPb)

27 By the way

We have so many Islamic military members that they require their own charter schools on multiple military installations


Hello


That's a problem.

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:10 AM (zOTsN)

28 Fen did that happen to you?

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:11 AM (zOTsN)

29 Sad to hear the coup was a flop.

Posted by: @votermom at July 16, 2016 08:12 AM (7lVbc)

30 Sean Trende says Pence was a great pick for Trump to have made:

http://tinyurl.com/zl7pe6o

Posted by: MTF at July 16, 2016 08:12 AM (/m8T6)

31 The Hertefølger's kids...roam the surrounding forests in search of mythical creatures like fairies and elves. They grow up with a deep sense of appreciation for nature.


Hmmm...
Maybe I should re-read "A Nature Guide to Norway: Plants, Animals and Geography" I must have missed the chapter on fairies.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 16, 2016 08:12 AM (NeFrd)

32 Fen are you ok?

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:13 AM (zOTsN)

33
We have so many Islamic military members that they require their own charter schools on multiple military installations

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Way to assimilate, star-bellied sneetches.

Posted by: iforgot at July 16, 2016 08:13 AM (5o5ek)

34 how the hell do you cook brisket in a bathtub?

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at July 16, 2016 08:13 AM (Cq0oW)

35 Today is the weekly wrap up on my blog
Good way to catch up

Link in Nov

(I need to add my new silver & gold bumper sticker to the sidebar)

Posted by: @votermom at July 16, 2016 08:14 AM (7lVbc)

36 27 By the way

We have so many Islamic military members that they require their own charter schools on multiple military installations


Hello


That's a problem.
Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:10 AM (zOTsN)

Yeah I'm beginning to feel like we are months away from going full Sharia. And I'm not being sarcastic.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:14 AM (Fp5Wm)

37 Nov = nic

Posted by: @votermom at July 16, 2016 08:14 AM (7lVbc)

38
In other media news, Hulu is going to film a series based on Margaret Atwood's pedantic screechy fem novel The Handmaid's Tale.

https://tinyurl.com/zzfdx6d

Spoilers: Men bad, women good, religion icky.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2016 08:14 AM (kdS6q)

39 osted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:11 AM (zOTsN)

Yes; About 30 years ago when I hadn't gotten through the ordination process yet. Nowadays if anyone was going to sexually harrass me they'd probably be either desperate or blind. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2016 08:14 AM (bpZlE)

40 Islam is going to defeat the west. I'm at a loss as to how to prepare for that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 16, 2016 08:15 AM (97XyN)

41

For instance, the USAF just gave this dude permission to open a charter school at Nellis AFB, Nevada. Which is where the Skunkworks are. Who do all USAF experimental stuff, like developing the stealth technology

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:15 AM (zOTsN)

42 Elves are fairies.

Posted by: Gimli at July 16, 2016 08:16 AM (L62jT)

43 how the hell do you cook brisket in a bathtub?

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board


******


Well, first you marinate it in Froot Loops and skim milk for six hours.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 16, 2016 08:17 AM (NeFrd)

44 24 Some woman thinks a pilot referring to stewardesses as" pretty young ladies" as sexual harassment? I wonder how she'd react to a supervisor (a clergyman) rubbing his hand up your leg and referring to one's husband saying , "So, when the cats away the mice will play?" Uhhh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2016 08:07 AM (bpZlE)


Please tell that did not happen to you or anybody you know.
Please say it is a Urban Myth or Dark Humor.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:17 AM (Fp5Wm)

45 Islam is going to defeat the west. I'm at a loss as to how to prepare for that.

====

i don't believe that.

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at July 16, 2016 08:17 AM (Cq0oW)

46 Nellis is where the drone operators are too

Lets have a bunch of Muslims there

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:18 AM (zOTsN)

47 Elves are fairies

====

fairies wear boots

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at July 16, 2016 08:18 AM (Cq0oW)

48 Any active people

Are there hajib all over military bases now?

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:18 AM (zOTsN)

49 Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:17 AM (Fp5Wm)

Nope; It happened..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2016 08:19 AM (bpZlE)

50 In other media news, Hulu is going to film a series based on Margaret Atwood's pedantic screechy fem novel The Handmaid's Tale.

The source of many a paranoiac leftist's delusional fantasies.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 16, 2016 08:19 AM (+wjl1)

51 Spoilers: Men bad, women good, religion icky.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2016 08:14 AM (kdS6q)

BFDs (Big fvcking dildos) wonderful

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 16, 2016 08:21 AM (voOPb)

52 The Turkish "coup" appears to be an Erdogan/Islamist house cleaning and power consolidation operation to disabuse any remaining secularists in the military or government.
Coming to America soon- just replace secularists with Constitutionalists.

Posted by: GasperGoo-TEXIT at July 16, 2016 08:21 AM (X0SOM)

53 Ah Grump kitteh

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 16, 2016 08:23 AM (mpXpK)

54 39 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2016 08:14 AM (bpZlE)
=====================

Forget "desperate or blind", and lets just say they won't harass you out of respect for a good soul.

Posted by: MTF at July 16, 2016 08:23 AM (/m8T6)

55 The girl with the Game of Thrones eyebrows looks like a death trap.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:24 AM (Fp5Wm)

56 Willowed comment from last thread:


144
Your memory of the Bush years is sure different than mine. My
recollection is the first things he did after getting in office was the
no child socialist program and the prescription drug program, 100%
socialism. And he crossed the aisle to join up with Ted the Swimmer to
do it.


After that 90% of his efforts were directed at
invading Iraq. I was against that because I knew it would be another
Vietnam; the US wins and the Democrats give it back to the enemy as soon
as they get control. And that is exactly what happened.


And the best Republican President after WWII is RR even if he wasn't perfect. Perfect would be silent Cal.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 16, 2016 08:24 AM (mpXpK)

57
Sad to hear the coup was a flop.
Posted by: @votermom at July 16, 2016 08:12 AM (7lVbc)
----------------------

I'm really bummed about it. When's Turkey's next election? Or is Erdogan eligible for a second term?

Posted by: iforgot at July 16, 2016 08:25 AM (5o5ek)

58
Or is Erdogan eligible for a second term?
Posted by: iforgot at July 16, 2016 08:25 AM (5o5ek)
-------------------

Or for that matter a third, fourth? I don't know a thing about Turkey.

Posted by: iforgot at July 16, 2016 08:26 AM (5o5ek)

59 Posted by: MTF at July 16, 2016 08:23 AM (/m8T6)

Thanks, That's very nice. I've been very fortunate in that I have run into this with clergy or anyone else since then.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2016 08:26 AM (bpZlE)

60 That is a good looking babe in that crazy woman post. But it just proves never stick it in crazy. But the guy was kind of an idiot turd. Get up from wild sex and than tell woman you are dumping her.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 16, 2016 08:26 AM (mpXpK)

61 Vey sorry about Turkey. No I expect it will be a bloodbath and they'll go full sharia with grinning Obama supporting him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2016 08:27 AM (bpZlE)

62 47 >> fairies wear boots

and you gotta believe it

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 16, 2016 08:27 AM (gyKtp)

63 If that Chinese guy had done that in the US he would be prosecuted. We have a law for everything now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 16, 2016 08:27 AM (mpXpK)

64 that I have run="Haven't"!! run.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2016 08:28 AM (bpZlE)

65
CNN: Jeb Bush trashes Trump on eve of GOP convention

Jeb Bush is carrying his crusade against Donald Trump to the doorstep of the Republican convention, saying that he is not the future of the Republican Party even as it prepares to nominate him.


2016 Republican Presidential Nomination
Estimated Delegates Earned

Jeb Bush - 4

Total spent - Jeb Bush Campaign and Outside Bush groups: $138 million, and the books ain't closed yet.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2016 08:28 AM (kdS6q)

66 "34
how the hell do you cook brisket in a bathtub?

Posted by: Bigby's Ouija Board at July 16, 2016 08:13 AM (Cq0oW)"


I don't know about brisket in a bathtub but here is how to cook a steak in a cooler:

https://youtu.be/YLS4UGD-2Zk

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 16, 2016 08:29 AM (QHgTq)

67 >> Or is Erdogan eligible for a second term?

He came to power in 2002 and was just recently reelected, iirc.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 16, 2016 08:29 AM (gyKtp)

68 And predictably, all the leftist news sites are pegging pence as crazy and stupid. (Quotes on "Legal Insurrection")

I think I need to find some money to donate to Trump.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2016 08:30 AM (bpZlE)

69 Total spent - Jeb Bush Campaign and Outside Bush groups: $138 million, and the books ain't closed yet.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2016 08:28 AM (kdS6q)

His "advisors" are laughing their asses off. Unless the checks bounce.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 16, 2016 08:31 AM (WVsWD)

70 Fawk

Reading Gulens wiki, he claims to be the Islamic reformer the west has been looking for. Pluralism, multi party, interfaith, coalitions with the Vatican and with Jews, pro science.

An Islamic reformer who says Islam must change and be compatable with the west. Who wrote a lengthy editorial condemning the Brussels attacks.

Who says Islam must change. Which is why it is a cult

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 08:31 AM (zOTsN)

71 49 Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:17 AM (Fp5Wm)

Nope; It happened..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2016 08:19 AM (bpZlE)

Jeez, I'm speechless you went through that.

It sounded like something he would say to little children in the past.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:32 AM (Fp5Wm)

72 I guess those Norwegians don't throw rocks in their home.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 16, 2016 08:32 AM (mpXpK)

73
Trump and Pence are proceeding with their joint event in New York today, and Pence will to an event by himself in Indiana later.

Posted by: iforgot at July 16, 2016 08:34 AM (5o5ek)

74 RealClearPolitics has a link up to an Yglesias snark at Vox, making the (headline) point of "Imagine Trump Handling The Coup Well".

This is their theme for the election: Trump is inexperienced and erratic. He won't handle that 3 am call well.

It's truly shocking, after the chaos of the last eight years, not to mention the last eight weeks in Comey-land, that Progressives think it'll be easy to draw a contrast between Trump and Clinton based on competence.

Posted by: MTF at July 16, 2016 08:35 AM (/m8T6)

75 Islam is going to defeat the west. I'm at a loss as to how to prepare for that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 16, 2016 08:15 AM (97XyN)




If that does happen, the SJWs, feminists, gays and other assorted leftists are going to be in for a big surprise when they find out just how open minded and religion of peace they really are

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2016 08:35 AM (GILMl)

76 Islamic State claims responsibility for France attack in Nice





Barry and the MFM will still claim that they don't know the motives, he was a loner and there aren't any ties to terrorist groups

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2016 08:37 AM (GILMl)

77
What's going on at https://www.lyingcrookedhillary.com/? I hope it's down because Trump's team is putting up their latest video.

Posted by: iforgot at July 16, 2016 08:38 AM (5o5ek)

78 Jeb Bush - 4
Total spent - Jeb Bush Campaign and Outside Bush groups: $138 million, and the books ain't closed yet.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2016 08:28 AM (kdS6q)

Time for Jeb! and his whole Clan to go the F away, get real jobs and leave the rest of us alone.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 16, 2016 08:39 AM (ej1L0)

79
RealClearPolitics has a link up to an Yglesias snark at Vox, making the (headline) point of "Imagine Trump Handling The Coup Well".

This is their theme for the election: Trump is inexperienced and erratic. He won't handle that 3 am call well.
--------------------

That's funny. Obama didn't even know it was coming.

Posted by: iforgot at July 16, 2016 08:40 AM (5o5ek)

80 "50
In other media news, Hulu is going to film a series based on Margaret Atwood's pedantic screechy fem novel The Handmaid's Tale.



The source of many a paranoiac leftist's delusional fantasies.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 16, 2016 08:19 AM (+wjl1)"


The story behind Handmaid's Tale is that some college in Alabama had Margaret Atwood as a writer in residence and she repaid their generosity by writing that book. Apparently Ms.Atwood was quite dismayed by the cultural difference between Canada and Alabama.

In The Handmaid's Tale, the protagonist's husband was killed and she was captured when they were trying to flee to freedom in Canada. My word but Canadians are insufferable, self righteous, arrogant little shits. Some day they will go too far and we will send the Michigan National Guard to conquer their country as a weekend training exercise.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 16, 2016 08:40 AM (QHgTq)

81 Whoever invented the cheerful phrase "rise and shine" got punched a couple times.

Posted by: eleven at July 16, 2016 08:40 AM (qUNWi)

82 Islam is going to defeat the west. I'm at a loss as to how to prepare for that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed 8:15 AM
________

I don't see that happening. Here's why:

If you consider all the regions of the world in terms of wealth and security and list them from best to worst, the United States (and similar societies such as Canada) would be on top. Sub-Saharan Africa would be on the bottom. Those high on the list generally enjoy an advanced civilization and high degrees of political, economic and personal freedom. All of the regions on your list are improving - "developing" and "emerging" are favorite terms, and not just in terms of their abilities to buy stuff. Although there are setbacks her and there, the world as a whole, is continually getting better.

With one exception: the Islamic Middle East.

When Sub-Saharan Africa overtakes the Islamic world in wealth and overall happiness and begins to prosper, Middle Easterners will start to seriously question why they're so miserable. When that happens, the old way in that region will fundamentally begin to change and Islam as we know it now will change with it.

(See South America as a case study.)

Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 08:41 AM (pGs/e)

83 RealClearPolitics has a link up to an Yglesias snark at Vox, making the (headline) point of "Imagine Trump Handling The Coup Well".

Name one success of Hillary's as SecState.

Other than personal profiteering.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 16, 2016 08:41 AM (+wjl1)

84 I feel sorry for the moose. The driver shd have seen it and braked. I dont think he was paying attention at all. A lot of people who hit moose die, too. The body comes right thru the windshield and kills the driver.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 08:42 AM (iQIUe)

85 Name one success of Hillary's as SecState.

She profited personally.

Posted by: eleven at July 16, 2016 08:43 AM (qUNWi)

86 Some day they will go too far and we will send the Michigan National Guard to conquer their country as a weekend training exercise.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole

Put us in coach. We're ready.

Posted by: Eagle Scout Troop 557 at July 16, 2016 08:43 AM (lDrRt)

87 3 Grumpy cat is my spirit animal.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2016 07:53 AM (0mRoj)


I'm calling threadwinner.

*sips coffee*

Mornin'.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2016 08:44 AM (sdi6R)

88 Police arrest three in Nice as Islamic State claims truck attack

"The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State," the news agency Amaq, which supports the militant Islamist group, said via its Telegram account.





But he was still a lone wolf and can't figure out his motives except that he could possibly be a right wing, Republican, white guy who was voting for Trump

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2016 08:45 AM (GILMl)

89 82 Islam is going to defeat the west. I'm at a loss as to how to prepare for that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed 8:15 AM
________

I don't see that happening. Here's why:

If you consider all the regions of the world in terms of wealth and security and list them from best to worst, the United States (and similar societies such as Canada) would be on top. Sub-Saharan Africa would be on the bottom. Those high on the list generally enjoy an advanced civilization and high degrees of political, economic and personal freedom. All of the regions on your list are improving - "developing" and "emerging" are favorite terms, and not just in terms of their abilities to buy stuff. Although there are setbacks her and there, the world as a whole, is continually getting better.

With one exception: the Islamic Middle East.

When Sub-Saharan Africa overtakes the Islamic world in wealth and overall happiness and begins to prosper, Middle Easterners will start to seriously question why they're so miserable. When that happens, the old way in that region will fundamentally begin to change and Islam as we know it now will change with it.

(See South America as a case study.)
Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 08:41 AM (pGs/e

Have you ever studied Islam and its history?

They have been unhappy since day one and are leading the global game spreading and populating everywhere.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:46 AM (Fp5Wm)

90 (Caution virtue signalling ahead)

Just bought a kindle ebook through AoS. well worth the entertainment i get from this site. Thanks, Ace, for all you do.

Posted by: goatexchange at July 16, 2016 08:46 AM (Nd4YY)

91 I'm calling threadwinner.

*sips coffee*

Mornin'.


That's rather nonchalanski.

Posted by: eleven at July 16, 2016 08:46 AM (qUNWi)

92 84
I feel sorry for the moose. The driver shd have seen it and braked. I
dont think he was paying attention at all. A lot of people who hit moose
die, too. The body comes right thru the windshield and kills the
driver.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 08:42 AM (iQIUe)

Back when I was still in GA I had a buddy who came home every weekend from Charleston where he was a on a sub. He used to stay late until Sunday night and then haul ass back in a Dodge Dart 340. One of those Sundays he met up with a door running in front of the car. Totaled the car, but he took the deer back to the sub and butchered it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 16, 2016 08:49 AM (mpXpK)

93 Never mind me ...I'm out..British Open is on somewhere.

Posted by: eleven at July 16, 2016 08:50 AM (qUNWi)

94 2,745 Judges have been removed from the Judiciary in Turkey since last night.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2016 08:52 AM (q3w6R)

95 40 Islam is going to defeat the west. I'm at a loss as to how to prepare for that.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 16, 2016 08:15 AM (97XyN)


A feminized society is no match for Islam. And look at the reaction to that 14 year old boy's "white privilege" poem. A whole generation is being taught self-loathing. Kids like that are going to be a mess when they grow up, and will not be capable--or even interested--in carrying on Western Civilization.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2016 08:52 AM (sdi6R)

96 aeerrrrrgggg


door running in front of the car. Totaled the car, but he took the deer back to the sub and butchered it.


door = deer

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 16, 2016 08:52 AM (mpXpK)

97
74 RealClearPolitics has a link up to an Yglesias snark at Vox, making the (headline) point of "Imagine Trump Handling The Coup Well".

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omg, okay, I clicked. What a joke.

Essentially:

"to be a good president you do need to be able to run good meetings. ...

From everything I know about Trump ... he simply doesn't have what it takes."

That's it. Trump can't be a good prez because as far as Matt Yglesias knows, he can't run a meeting.

Posted by: iforgot at July 16, 2016 08:52 AM (5o5ek)

98 I must walk away after the claim is made that happiness will stop 1.6 billion people whose happiness is based on genocide and war and every sadistic impulse you can think of.

Y'all enjoy your day.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:53 AM (Fp5Wm)

99 There are a couple of interesting stories on DM. One is about an expat who settled in Provence 10 years ago and in that time his area became 40% muslim. Now cars burst in flames, they threatened to slit his throat, their is wide unemployment. The other story talks about how the French Riviera has become a jihadi hell hole.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 08:53 AM (iQIUe)

100 French PM says they will "just have to live with terrorism."

When the barbaric threat lives inside your culture, taking advantage of all the privileges until they decide to strike against the most vulnerable, there is one and only one defense: armed citizens. will Europe ever come to this realization?

Posted by: goatexchange at July 16, 2016 08:54 AM (Nd4YY)

101
As to Turkey, once again moderate muslims choose an islamic fundi dictatorship over secular freedom.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 08:55 AM (iQIUe)

102 94 2,745 Judges have been removed from the Judiciary in Turkey since last night.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 16, 2016 08:52 AM (q3w6R

But a F-16 missed the new Palace of Satan with their science bombs we gave them.

Sounds legit.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:55 AM (Fp5Wm)

103 97 omg, okay, I clicked. What a joke.
Posted by: iforgot at July 16, 2016 08:52 AM (5o5ek)
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You hold up traffic gawking at car wrecks, don't you? I admit I didn't click on it; I have a fixed personal rule to only click on Yglesias when I see the word "Bridge" in his headline.

Posted by: MTF at July 16, 2016 08:58 AM (/m8T6)

104 "Car's totaled. Moose up top should have told you!"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 16, 2016 08:58 AM (NeFrd)

105 We're thrilled with the Pence pick. All you rubes need to give up on this outsider thing. Not,,, going,,, to happen.

Posted by: Paul Ryan, Little Marco, & company at July 16, 2016 08:59 AM (r/WuD)

106 If I take the position that BLM concerns me, due to the propensity for violence to occur near or at their gatherings, and later I get a speeding ticket for going 70mph in a 65mph zone with a pregnant woman in labor in the car, just before the exit ramp for a maternity hospital, it's pretty clear to Obama that I am speeding because I'm a racist cracker, speeding because I'm late for a Klan meeting.

Yet the motivations for Nice, Orlando and other attacks confound the fuck out of him, while he tried to study entrails to discover the cause of their actions. multitudes of other

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2016 09:01 AM (ptqRm)

107 I bet young Muslim boys are not being taught self-loathing in the madrassas.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2016 09:01 AM (sdi6R)

108 I'm totaling up all the Worlds' problems I have solved in the last month.

Total is still sitting at zero.

I could use some help here.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 16, 2016 09:02 AM (WVsWD)

109 british open:

boy, can these guys putt.

they'd be really good at miniature golf!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 16, 2016 09:02 AM (WTSFk)

110 I bet young Muslim boys are not being taught self-loathing in the madrassas.

*****


No, they are taught that it is much healthier in mind and spirit to direct their self-loathing at others.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 16, 2016 09:03 AM (NeFrd)

111 It's mid July and people are playing golf in cold weather gear.

Posted by: eleven at July 16, 2016 09:03 AM (qUNWi)

112
There are a couple of interesting stories on DM.
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Those are interesting stories. One of them notes the increase in French who now feel "unease" over Muslim immigrants. In other words, conservative warnings are coming true. People are coming around to what we've been saying for years.

Posted by: iforgot at July 16, 2016 09:04 AM (5o5ek)

113 Have you ever studied Islam and its history?

They have been unhappy since day one and are leading the global game spreading and populating everywhere.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at 8:46 AM
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Not really, no. My understanding is that Islamic brought an improvement of civilization and prosperity wherever it went for the first 500 years.

(The Crusades and the invasion of southern Europe notwithstanding, which were run-of-the-mill clashes of civilizations and attempts at conquest.)

But for the last 500 years, the West had Christopher Columbus, Martin Luther, Isaac Newton, etc., while Islamic world enjoyed pretty much nothing until oil was found. Today, even with all that oil, they still enjoy pretty much nothing. It'll be a matter of time when they will collectively demand something more.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 09:04 AM (pGs/e)

114 mornin' 'rons, i resemble grumpy cat until coffee.

Posted by: willy at July 16, 2016 09:05 AM (TaHM4)

115 Has anyone read the speech that Victor Orban gave yesterday? If not you should.

He has it down right.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 16, 2016 09:05 AM (WVsWD)

116 Happiness is a variation on the neoconservative "democracy whiskey sexy". Slogan. A failure. They thought globalization would expose the Islamic world to Western values like Skinemax and all the kids would embrace their futures as pole dancers.

Guess we need another approach.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 16, 2016 09:05 AM (Cq0oW)

117 Imagine Gilligan's Island, but under islamic rule.


Pretty good show, yes?


Same with Happy Days.

Real side splitters, they would have been.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2016 09:06 AM (ptqRm)

118 One of them notes the increase in French who now feel "unease" over Muslim immigrants.

*****


So they're starting to have some mus-givings, eh?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 16, 2016 09:07 AM (NeFrd)

119 Pet Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2016 09:08 AM (Sfs6o)

120 106 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2016 09:01 AM (ptqRm)
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I look at it this way: Progressives believe that if you are caught driving too fast, it's because you are inherently racist, consumed by white privilege and your car is a deadly weapon wielded irresponsibly in the faces of subjugated minorities, like women, people of color, members of non Judeo-Christian religions and LGBT exceptions to the above. Progressives believe the Place Des Anglais terrorist was victimized by his truck, Trump and anti-immigrant sentiment fed by dark forces all over Europe, but most particularly the Brexit voters of England.

Posted by: MTF at July 16, 2016 09:09 AM (/m8T6)

121 I must walk away after the claim is made that happiness will stop 1.6 billion people whose happiness is based on genocide and war and every sadistic impulse you can think of.
Y'all enjoy your day.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 16, 2016 08:53 AM (Fp5Wm)

The best chance for survival of the West is to keep the muzzies at each others throats, which worked well the last 1000 years. They hate each other just as well as the West. We need to stop being nice and play up their divisions so they go back to and keep on killing each other.

And arrest Hillary.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 16, 2016 09:09 AM (ej1L0)

122 The Eloi are feeling "unease"?

Well...I suppose that's something.

Posted by: eleven at July 16, 2016 09:09 AM (qUNWi)

123 muzzies have never brought anything but death and destruction. All the so-called science they did was in actuality stolen from other cultures, mostly those in India.


IOW it is all a pack of lies.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 16, 2016 09:10 AM (mpXpK)

124 >>>43 Well, first you marinate it in Froot Loops and skim milk for six hours.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 16, 2016 08:17 AM (NeFrd)<<<

Oh, man, that's cereal, isn't it? Way too much effort.

Posted by: millennial at July 16, 2016 09:10 AM (jV8Mq)

125 They hate each other just as well as the West.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at 9:09 AM
________

Italians, then - without the carbonara.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 09:11 AM (pGs/e)

126 "Oh, man, that's cereal, isn't it? Way too much effort."

Just use tap water, and toss in three protein bars instead.

It's easier.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2016 09:11 AM (ptqRm)

127 >>> Islamic brought an improvement of civilization and prosperity wherever it went for the first 500 years.<<<<<

How did Islam "improve" Persian or Egyptian civilization?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 16, 2016 09:12 AM (tEDMc)

128

So Erdogun is clearing more than the military but the judges too? This is a purge plus. Goodbye dissent in Turkey. Farewell any semblance of secularism. The religious police are prolly being recruited as we speak

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 09:13 AM (zOTsN)

129 fen?

Posted by: phoenixgirl you must fight for independence EVERYDAY at July 16, 2016 09:14 AM (0O7c5)

130 So Erdogun is clearing more than the military but the judges too? This is a purge plus. Goodbye dissent in Turkey. Farewell any semblance of secularism. The religious police are prolly being recruited as we speak

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 09:13 AM (zOTsN)



Funny you should say that:

Obama: All parties in Turkey should support Erdogan gov't

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2016 09:15 AM (GILMl)

131 Damn the British Open is dreary dull.

Posted by: eleven at July 16, 2016 09:15 AM (qUNWi)

132
Well, off to meat world. Have a great day.

Posted by: iforgot at July 16, 2016 09:20 AM (5o5ek)

133 OK, that was hilarious.
Phone call from neighbor (who is out on a jobsite) - "I was working on my truck this morning. I think I left my phone lying in the driveway. PLEEEEEEEASE go over and find it before my wife does!"

Posted by: Chi at July 16, 2016 09:20 AM (Keefh)

134 but most particularly the Brexit voters of England."

Yeah. Notice how that coming catastrophe (SWIDT?) somehow never quite arrived?
Still waiting on that collapse in oil prices, financial markets moving from London, and the mystical decrease in GB productions, esp for export...

But I'm sure that'll all happen (those are real predictions, BTW) any day soon.

Yawn.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 16, 2016 09:21 AM (C9pBZ)

135

See he is clearing away any judges who might say his edicts are illegal and unconstitutional


Well this is a fine kettle of fish

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 09:22 AM (zOTsN)

136 Damn the British Open is dreary dull."

See, BREXIT!!!!!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 16, 2016 09:22 AM (C9pBZ)

137 Not really, no. My understanding is that Islamic brought an improvement of civilization and prosperity wherever it went for the first 500 years.


Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 09:04 AM (pGs/e)

hmmm...did this happen while it was busy driving Christianity out of North Africa at sword-point?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 16, 2016 09:22 AM (oQQwD)

138 " Damn the British Open is dreary dull."



It's golf.


In Britain.



Not much to work with for excitement.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2016 09:22 AM (ptqRm)

139 once upon a golf course dreary
while i wandered weak and weary
trying to shoot the lowest open score...

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 16, 2016 09:22 AM (WTSFk)

140
hmmm...did this happen while it was busy driving Christianity out of North Africa at sword-point?

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The history of the early church isn't taught much.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 16, 2016 09:24 AM (Cq0oW)

141 113
My understanding is that Islamic brought an improvement of civilization and prosperity wherever it went for the first 500 years.
Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 09:04 AM (pGs/e)


I honestly don't know where you got that from. Their early conquests in the Middle East and North Africa were places that had known civilization for centuries, and were part of the Roman world. Christianity had already taken root. It was the most advanced region on the planet with the possible exception of China.

The Muslims did not bring any new knowledge or prosperity. They lived off the wealth of the societies they conquered.

500 years from the time of the founding of Islam was the mid 1100s. By that time they had destroyed what was left of the Library of Alexandria and attempted to destroy Egypt's pyramids.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2016 09:24 AM (sdi6R)

142 Every one of these links holes looks like the same hole.

There's no personality to the course. It just seems like 18 of the same thing.

Posted by: eleven at July 16, 2016 09:24 AM (qUNWi)

143 My understanding is that Islamic brought an improvement of civilization and prosperity wherever it went for the first 500 years. "

For those in it's leadership, sure. The rest, not so much.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 16, 2016 09:25 AM (C9pBZ)

144 One of those Sundays he met up with a door running in front of the car. Totaled the car, but he took the deer back to the sub and butchered it.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 16, 2016 08:49 AM (mpXpK)

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A few years ago there were some photos on the internet of a suv that hit a deer. The interior was covered with blood. The deer was decapitated and the driver was killed, too.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 09:26 AM (iQIUe)

145
So they're starting to have some mus-givings, eh?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 16, 2016 09:07 AM (NeFrd)


nous-givings

Posted by: Kindltot at July 16, 2016 09:27 AM (ry34m)

146 I honestly don't know where you got that from"

Pretty much every "world history" class over the last 30 years?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 16, 2016 09:27 AM (C9pBZ)

147 Islam has brought culture growth to a stand still wherever it went

Posted by: ThunderB at July 16, 2016 09:28 AM (zOTsN)

148 A few years ago there were some photos on the internet of a suv that hit a deer. The interior was covered with blood. The deer was decapitated and the driver was killed, too.

When I was in the Army, two soldiers driving around in a rear area of Ft. Hood hit a deer. The deer was embedded in the windshield and both men were killed by its hooves.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 16, 2016 09:30 AM (97XyN)

149 "Islam has brought culture growth to a stand still wherever it went"

Feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2016 09:30 AM (ptqRm)

150 Oh I'm sure turkey already has their religious police, just like they do in all other Muslim countries. Their main job is to make sure sharia law is being observed...coming to a,Erica real soon I wager.

Posted by: IC at July 16, 2016 09:30 AM (KTFfX)

151 It's cold and windy and dreary in the middle of freaking July. How can the British stand that shit?

Posted by: eleven at July 16, 2016 09:31 AM (qUNWi)

152 hmmm...did this happen while it was busy driving Christianity out of North Africa at sword-point?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 16, 2016 09:22 AM
________

If the first duty of a civilization is its own security, then the Christian West failed North Africa miserably.

As to the original point - that Islam is going to defeat the West - do you think this is possible/plausible/inevitable?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 09:33 AM (pGs/e)

153 Of course, Moslems so thoroughly obliterated all traces of the early church that most think it's a European thing only vaguely connected to Israel. If more knew Christianity was a middle eastern thing for near a thousand years and had spread to Asia - in fact was more at home there than in Europe - it might provide perspective, even cachet. As it stands, I think the West is in the course of abandoning it's inheritance while Africans and Latin American churches will be the spear point for a new era of religious wars.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 16, 2016 09:34 AM (Cq0oW)

154 The only place I can think of where Islam may have had a net civilizing influence is sub-Saharan Africa, but even then it was an unintentional side effect, since their main interest in the region was as a source of slaves.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2016 09:34 AM (sdi6R)

155 It's foggy and cool which is great. Once the fog burns off in a few hours the temp hits the 90s. Sunday is suppose to be sunny all day long. Blah.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 09:35 AM (iQIUe)

156 Egypt before Muslim conquests was solidly Christian

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2016 09:37 AM (bksJQ)

157 "As to the original point - that Islam is going to defeat the West - do you think this is possible/plausible/inevitable? "

One one of the two sides you mention is truly and actively at war.

The other is still trying to connect the dots, and understand why they hate us.

I think in the end, Islam loses.
But at a cost in life that will boggle the human mind.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2016 09:37 AM (ptqRm)

158
When we had terrible fires in the area, the smoke in the atmosphere would filter the light and cause plants to look different. It was really strange yet beautiful.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 09:37 AM (iQIUe)

159 My review of Ghostbusters ,
ghost of Busby Berkeley production.
Luckily the editors managed the cut most of the Big musical dance scene, leaving a big gapping whole in the final boss battle . If you have to watch the movie, stay for credits where the pieces of dance number can be seen. Then you will realize how much worse it could of gotten.

Posted by: my name is at July 16, 2016 09:38 AM (mlXE0)

160 "As to the original point - that Islam is going to defeat the West - do you think this is possible/plausible/inevitable?
Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 09:33 AM (pGs/e)"

I think it's inevitable.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 16, 2016 09:39 AM (97XyN)

161 When they poll muzzies and they say that they want sharia law and that suicide bombing is hunky dory, how come no one says, enough!

For years I have heard euros complain and say they must do something but things have just gotten worse.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 09:39 AM (iQIUe)

162 When we had terrible fires in the area, the smoke in the atmosphere would filter the light and cause plants to look different. It was really strange yet beautiful.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 09:37 AM
________

I remember a summer day in the Adirondacks some years ago. The sun was orange all day, like you'd see at sunset. Turned out there were big fires in Quebec. That's what caused it.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 09:39 AM (pGs/e)

163 Volvos are supposedly designed to survive Moose impacts.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 16, 2016 09:40 AM (ry34m)

164 Firehorse give Phillip Jenkins a read if you're interested. He has a 3 book series on the future of Christianity, also a blog that I can not remember the name of.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 16, 2016 09:41 AM (Cq0oW)

165 I think anyone who is attracted to or defends ISIS is morally bankrupt. Everyone knows what they are about. No excuses.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 09:41 AM (iQIUe)

166 Mind you, a moose impact can be pretti nastii.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 16, 2016 09:42 AM (nIGPZ)

167 Firehorse give Phillip Jenkins a read if you're interested. He has a 3 book series on the future of Christianity, also a blog that I can not remember the name of.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 16, 2016 09:41 AM (Cq0oW)
________

Sounds interesting. Thanks for the tip!

Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 09:44 AM (pGs/e)

168 Older sister of a friend of mine, late 40's, straight but totally into "Grrrrl power", posted on FB this moring that as much as she hated to do it, she gave Ghostbusters 2 thumbs down. "Not funny at all" was her capsule review.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 16, 2016 09:44 AM (2cS/G)

169 Actual Moose Test story

http://wp.me/p4pLb7-G7Ks

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2016 09:44 AM (ptqRm)

170 Did you see that video of that pokemon game in Central Park? Thousands of people were rushing into the park holding their stupid phones up. Cars were driving up with the driver hoping out and a shitty park and running into the park. I think I saw Ace there, too.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 09:44 AM (iQIUe)

171 Did you see that video of that pokemon game in Central Park? Thousands of people were rushing into the park holding their stupid phones up. Cars were driving up with the driver hoping out and a shitty park and running into the park. I think I saw Ace there, too.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 09:44 AM (iQIUe)

Obama voters.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 16, 2016 09:46 AM (ej1L0)

172
A Vaporeon popped up in the middle of Central Park and this happened

https://goo.gl/cXYLfv

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 09:47 AM (iQIUe)

173 Mind you, a moose impact can be pretti nastii.

A moose once impacted my sister.

Posted by: db at July 16, 2016 09:47 AM (Wozau)

174 160 "As to the original point - that Islam is going to defeat the West - do you think this is possible/plausible/inevitable?
Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 09:33 AM (pGs/e)"

I think it's inevitable.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 16, 2016 09:39 AM (97XyN)


It certainly looks bleak at the moment, but I wouldn't go that far. An Islamic conquest would condemn the world to a permanent Dark Age.

Incidentally, I was just about to mention a theory that Islam was responsible for Europe's Dark Age in medieval times. At the time of the fall of the Roman Empire in the 400s, much of Europe had a rich civilization. The barbarian tribes absorbed Roman ways, and within a century or two became Christianized. The Roman government collapsed, but civilization didn't grind to a halt. Its inheritors carried on the traditions. Literacy was widespread. Roman Europe was just under new management.

But then when Islam began to spread around 600-700, the theory goes, the trade in papyrus was cut off, forcing Europe to switch to much more expensive parchment. That's when literacy plummeted, and presto: The Dark Age began.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2016 09:49 AM (sdi6R)

175 I once had a Volvo, with a moose knuckle.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2016 09:50 AM (ptqRm)

176 Fast forward 50 years if nothing changes in about 10 maybe 1/2 of Europe will be under sharia laws.

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2016 09:50 AM (bksJQ)

177 It isn't islamophobia when they really are trying to kill you.

The only solution is going to have to come from the people as the elites are fully wedded to suicidal globalism and multiculturalism and are perfectly willing to offer up your life and the lives of your loved ones on the alter to it.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 16, 2016 09:51 AM (PdcPS)

178 A Vaporeon popped up in the middle of Central Park and this happened

Only a matter of time until this technology is used to control the SJW mobs to round up the "undesirables".

Posted by: db at July 16, 2016 09:51 AM (Wozau)

179 My aunt and uncle live just Alaska, I'm told moose strikes are often total writeoffs of the vehical

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2016 09:52 AM (bksJQ)

180 I remember a summer day in the Adirondacks some years ago. The sun was orange all day, like you'd see at sunset. Turned out there were big fires in Quebec. That's what caused it.
Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 09:39 AM (pGs/e)

=======
Yep. I was at a plant nursery and the plants started looking day glo green. The sun was red and this was at 9 or 10 am.

I hate smoke from fires. Anything impeding my breathing makes me anxious.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 09:53 AM (iQIUe)

181 "I'm told moose strikes are often total writeoffs of the vehicle"

Is there a cut-off point for writing off the moose?

Age, mileage, sex?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 16, 2016 09:54 AM (ptqRm)

182 Some French official says they're just gonna have to learn to live with terrorism. If you have ever looked for the personification of the stereotypical cheese eating surrender monkey, look no further.

http://tinyurl.com/j3f9byp

*heaves a sigh of relief*

Posted by: Zombie Neville Chamberlain at July 16, 2016 09:56 AM (DIhU5)

183 And look at the Brexit vote.

The two things animating the people were their desire to regain autonomy and their desire to curtail immigration and what did the elites do after the people have spoken?

They plotted and scheme to have the two people most responsible for the brexit forced out and they installed as prime minister someone from the remain side and who is also in the mass immigration is the only thing that can save us camp.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 16, 2016 09:56 AM (PdcPS)

184 That description of Islam that Firehorse gave is a common meme with militant atheists that have a propensity to become islam apologists right before they go on a rant about evils of the christian crusades. They really love to leave out how the hell islam spread into parts of europe. Before I would even get into a debate with one or anybody for that matter about the subject they would have to explain the islamic crusades that came before the evil christian crusades.

Posted by: JROD at July 16, 2016 09:56 AM (wnwJC)

185 His blog is on Patheos. The primary book is called The Next Christendom


He argues that Christianity will not look like it does now, that even some of the current confessions will not survive the coming century, but new vigorous Christian churches are emerging by the millions in the rest of the world. Currently the largest, Africa and South America, are not linked up and are very different from each other. That is due to change.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 16, 2016 09:58 AM (Cq0oW)

186 When we lived in Alaska the moose (mooses?meese?) preferred to walk along the railroad tracks where the deep snow had been cleared. This led to fairly frequent collisions between trains and moose (mooses?, meese?). The trains always won these encounters. There was some controversy, if memory serves, about whether it was fitting to use the meat of these moose (mooses?, meese?) to supplement the food supplies at prisons and jails.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 16, 2016 09:59 AM (NeFrd)

187 100 French PM says they will "just have to live with terrorism."
Posted by: goatexchange at July 16, 2016 08:54 AM (Nd4YY)


Any Western politician who says that should be dragged out of his office and lynched.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2016 09:59 AM (sdi6R)

188 And given the relatively higher incidence of converts to islam among prison population, I have to wonder if moose limbs are haram...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 16, 2016 10:00 AM (NeFrd)

189 Sadly, I suspect that moose is going to wander off into the woods and die. I saw a cow (of the dairy variety) get "bumped" by a car at low speed; sh!t squirted out of it's southern quadrant. It had to be put down later due to internal injuries.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at July 16, 2016 10:00 AM (Z/Yif)

190 >>There are a couple of interesting stories on DM. One is about an expat
who settled in Provence 10 years ago and in that time his area became
40% muslim. Now cars burst in flames, they threatened to slit his
throat, their is wide unemployment. The other story talks about how the
French Riviera has become a jihadi hell hole.



Gawd, that's sad!
Morning, all!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 16, 2016 10:01 AM (NOIQH)

191 I watched a few Youtube videos of PokemonGo players documenting their "hunts", including one in Central Park. I can see how that would be a great, fun game for middle-school-and-up kids, if not for all the unintended consequences.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 16, 2016 10:02 AM (2cS/G)

192 187 100 French PM says they will "just have to live with terrorism." Posted by: goatexchange at July 16, 2016 08:54 AM (Nd4YY)

This isn't much different than President Cocksucker's pronouncements that Islam doesn't present an existential threat and that "we can absorb" terrorist attacks.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 16, 2016 10:03 AM (97XyN)

193 how the hell do you cook brisket in a bathtub?
I don't know, dude, but don't try using hydrofluoric acid.

Posted by: jesse pinkman at July 16, 2016 10:05 AM (rxiN5)

194 Pokemon Growthefuckup

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 16, 2016 10:06 AM (WlGX+)

195 #80 My word but Canadians are insufferable, self righteous, arrogant little shits.

Before we take 'em over, we need to import all their hot eastern European strippers. And the back bacon. The hockey teams can all come too. We already have Timmy Ho's here, and we can make our own maple syrup.

So that about covers it.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? - Some People Call Me Maurice at July 16, 2016 10:10 AM (WlGX+)

196 >>This isn't much different than President Cocksucker's pronouncements
that Islam doesn't present an existential threat and that "we can
absorb" terrorist attacks.

But we can't absorb a few cops killing citizens, right, Barry?
What happened to zero tolerance when it comes to innocent citizens being slaughtered - jihadis get a few mulligans?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 16, 2016 10:11 AM (NOIQH)

197 Pokemon Growthefuckup

That advice applies to a lot of modern life beyond Pokemon.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 16, 2016 10:11 AM (nIGPZ)

198 Only cook in cast iron bathtubs, not the fiberglass ones.

Posted by: GGE Hades of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 16, 2016 10:12 AM (vbvxt)

199 From the sidebar article:

Erdogan flew into Ataturk airport early Saturday and was greeted by large crowds. He told them: "They have pointed the people's guns against the people. The president, whom 52 percent of the people brought to power, is in charge. This government brought to power by the people is in charge. They won't succeed as long as we stand against them by risking everything."

There's that number again.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2016 10:13 AM (sdi6R)

200 >>The story behind Handmaid's Tale is that some college in Alabama had
Margaret Atwood as a writer in residence and she repaid their generosity
by writing that book. Apparently Ms.Atwood was quite dismayed by the
cultural difference between Canada and Alabama.


Yazidi and Nigerian sex slaves can't be reached for comment....

Posted by: Lizzy at July 16, 2016 10:13 AM (NOIQH)

201 SOCAL WOMAN GETS 6 YEARS IN PRISON FOR KILLING MAN SHE CLAIMS RAPED HER

http://goo.gl/Ykcvw0

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Not sure how she knew these people and how she suckered them into murdering this guy. But, she got off light.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 10:16 AM (iQIUe)

202 There appeared to be that one split second where the moose thought to himself, "I can fly!!!" before reality reasserted itself.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 16, 2016 10:18 AM (NeFrd)

203 A problem that I imagine exists with Pokémon, though I don't know, is that while it does get kids up off the couch and outdoors, it probably does it in proportion to population. So you get a zillion kids poring over Central Park for pixelated game, but probably not so many kids hiking through a State Park. Maybe not a problem, it's possible that local fishing holes and out of the way woodsy spots are well represented. Anyone know?

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 16, 2016 10:20 AM (2cS/G)

204
I'm pretty sure Trump would not side with the islamist dictator if their was a coup which is what obammy did.

Things are going to get much worse in Turkey now.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 10:23 AM (iQIUe)

205 NOOD

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 10:27 AM (iQIUe)

206 174 But then when Islam began to spread around 600-700,
the theory goes, the trade in papyrus was cut off, forcing Europe to
switch to much more expensive parchment. That's when literacy
plummeted, and presto: The Dark Age began.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2016 09:49 AM (sdi6R)

Most historians say the Dark Ages were a myth. What happened was that as Rome shrank and eventually the forts that they had built and abandoned in England and Gaul became a gathering point for the settlements that had been around them. They did this for protection from the thieves. Those settlements eventually because small kingdoms which gradually united into countries over the decades. The so-called "loss of knowledge" never occurred.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 16, 2016 10:30 AM (mpXpK)

207

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 16, 2016 09:22 AM
________

If the first duty of a civilization is its own security, then the Christian West failed North Africa miserably.

As to the original point - that Islam is going to defeat the West - do you think this is possible/plausible/inevitable?
Posted by: FireHorse at July 16, 2016 09:33 AM (pGs/e)

Civilization has two things going for it:
1) man inherently wants to be free. Things may get brutally ugly for a while, but barbarism eventually fails.
2) muzzies hate each pther even worse than they hate us. They eventually kill themselves.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 16, 2016 10:31 AM (gj+X8)

208 192 This isn't much different than President
Cocksucker's pronouncements that Islam doesn't present an existential
threat and that "we can absorb" terrorist attacks.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 16, 2016 10:03 AM (97XyN)

The big difference is nobody believes Obama's lying shit and the French do believe their lying shit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 16, 2016 10:34 AM (mpXpK)

209 Trump has run three tweets in the past hour hitting Crooked Hillary over accusing Trump of having no foreign policy expertise when her foreign policy has been a disaster.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 16, 2016 10:43 AM (rxiN5)

210
Of course there was a lost of knowledge. You can see it in the poorly made bricks and concrete in the UK after the fall of the romans. The seats of knowledge were the monasteries who routinely were attacked by viking raids. However, they managed to survive. Indeed Christianity did save Western Culture.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 16, 2016 11:51 AM (iQIUe)

211 So you get a zillion kids poring over Central Park for pixelated game, but probably not so many kids hiking through a State Park. Maybe not a problem, it's possible that local fishing holes and out of the way woodsy spots are well represented. Anyone know?

There are specific woods and water Pokemon varieties that the game will only spawn in wooded areas and near rivers/lakes, respectively.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 16, 2016 12:05 PM (zjvRa)

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