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Kurt Schlicter: You Owe Them Nothing.
A great piece by Kurt, written before the FBI made it official that we're living in a post-constitutional oligarchy.
If the government is now fundamentally transformed, isn't it time citizens fundamentally transformed their relationship with the rogue government?Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: John P. Squibob at July 05, 2016 12:43 PM (rJOC2)
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When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another...
...etc.
...etc.
Posted by: RKae at July 05, 2016 12:43 PM (CnHJS)
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As well as appointed officials.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at July 05, 2016 12:43 PM (rJOC2)
Posted by: RKae at July 05, 2016 12:44 PM (CnHJS)
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Or farting.
Or farting.
Posted by: wth at July 05, 2016 12:44 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill-Yes, back to TEXIT at July 05, 2016 12:44 PM (9ym/8)
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Good luck with that. The government has the power of the gun and legal intimidation. It will take a lot more than what is going on now to get a critical mass of people to rise up.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 05, 2016 12:45 PM (TnUKj)
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I want that divorce you and Drew were talking about a few months back. America has irreconcilable differences. We should split now before it gets worse.
Posted by: gloomhauer at July 05, 2016 12:45 PM (UKFDQ)
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Or farting.
Nope. Farting could be construed as a passive act.
But then some think we should have an Irish rebellion.
Nope. Farting could be construed as a passive act.
But then some think we should have an Irish rebellion.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at July 05, 2016 12:45 PM (rJOC2)
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Good thing the FBI has helicopters because Comey's car keys are lost for good.
Posted by: wth at July 05, 2016 12:46 PM (HgMAr)
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The rule of law has been replaced by the rule of "meh"
Posted by: wooga at July 05, 2016 12:47 PM (dWrNe)
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It's like when illegal aliens pouring into our area would walk home with stolen shopping carts. (A few older ones used their own rolling carts.) We would look and think, if they can break the law why can't we? Within a few months, we saw Caucasians walking home with their stolen carts.
Civilization requires mass assent; it breaks down pretty easily once people stop believing.
Civilization requires mass assent; it breaks down pretty easily once people stop believing.
Posted by: PJ at July 05, 2016 12:47 PM (cHuNI)
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Fucking goddamned FBI, eunuch GOP, and moron Never Trumpers ensure we are going to be looking UP at Caligula in a year.
Grammy can't get proseucted for "accidentally" undermining national security but she promises prosecuting AGW "deniers."
Fuck this place I want out.
Grammy can't get proseucted for "accidentally" undermining national security but she promises prosecuting AGW "deniers."
Fuck this place I want out.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 05, 2016 12:48 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: wth at July 05, 2016 12:48 PM (HgMAr)
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1 Start with little things.
Like spitting in the general direction of elected officials.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at July 05, 2016 12:43 PM (rJOC2)
Funny that STILL no one has collected on providing video of that allegation.
Like spitting in the general direction of elected officials.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at July 05, 2016 12:43 PM (rJOC2)
Funny that STILL no one has collected on providing video of that allegation.
Posted by: Zombie Breitbart at July 05, 2016 12:48 PM (71OEY)
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It was very important to Hillary that we all understood that nothing that she emailed was marked as classified at the time that she sent it.
Why did she bother with that explanation? As we learned today, she didn't even need that defense. She sent things that were marked as classified. No consequences.
Why did she bother with that explanation? As we learned today, she didn't even need that defense. She sent things that were marked as classified. No consequences.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at July 05, 2016 12:48 PM (xN1DB)
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We're close.
The only thing that pushes this over the edge at this point is Trumps assassination.
War is coming. Prepare.
The only thing that pushes this over the edge at this point is Trumps assassination.
War is coming. Prepare.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 05, 2016 12:49 PM (d6rMq)
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isn't it time citizens fundamentally transformed their relationship with the rogue government?
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There is no legitimate government in these united States of America.
There are only wild, lawless brigands seeking to impose their will on us. We should deal with them accordingly.
Not "alter" but "abolish".
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There is no legitimate government in these united States of America.
There are only wild, lawless brigands seeking to impose their will on us. We should deal with them accordingly.
Not "alter" but "abolish".
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at July 05, 2016 12:49 PM (3Liv/)
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NZ here I come. I might choose Costa Rica but there's lots of bugs.
Posted by: wth at July 05, 2016 12:49 PM (HgMAr)
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And the elites wonder why things like Brexit are happening.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 12:50 PM (/tuJf)
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Ha. Just got an invite from a friend to join him in Australia.
He grows wine now...I could do that.
He grows wine now...I could do that.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2016 12:50 PM (r65B3)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 05, 2016 12:50 PM (iQIUe)
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NZ here I come.
NZ has very strict immigration laws. Are you wealthy, or do you have very specialized skills?
NZ has very strict immigration laws. Are you wealthy, or do you have very specialized skills?
Posted by: pep at July 05, 2016 12:50 PM (3e8zv)
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Our only hope now is that she strokes out.
Posted by: Paladin at July 05, 2016 12:51 PM (YNPwP)
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I'm trying to refrain from saying anything that is merely venting, versus what may actually occur.
So I don't know. What's the move? Where does this go?
We know nothing today that we didn't know yesterday, really. The federal government operates to its own liking, with no regard for the written law. Thuggish behavior pervades entities like the TSA, and they're trying to end-around the Bill of Rights.
What's the move? I really would like to know.
So I don't know. What's the move? Where does this go?
We know nothing today that we didn't know yesterday, really. The federal government operates to its own liking, with no regard for the written law. Thuggish behavior pervades entities like the TSA, and they're trying to end-around the Bill of Rights.
What's the move? I really would like to know.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 12:51 PM (TOk1P)
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Honestly, if conservatives that wanted to end this nonsense just stopped paying their taxes this government would fall apart pretty quickly.
I'm amazed how many people will talk about stockpiling weapons, about secession, etc and not the one thing that could destroy the US very quickly.
I'm amazed how many people will talk about stockpiling weapons, about secession, etc and not the one thing that could destroy the US very quickly.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 12:51 PM (Jzg4b)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill-Yes, back to TEXIT at July 05, 2016 12:51 PM (9ym/8)
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Schlichter: "Only power matters."
That's the Left in a nutshell, and that's why it's insane for conservatives to continue playing politics as a gentleman's sport, a polite contest of ideas, as they have lo these past fifty years.
The Left is a machine for seizing and retaining power. There's no limit to how low they will stoop in service of that goal.
That's the Left in a nutshell, and that's why it's insane for conservatives to continue playing politics as a gentleman's sport, a polite contest of ideas, as they have lo these past fifty years.
The Left is a machine for seizing and retaining power. There's no limit to how low they will stoop in service of that goal.
Posted by: Murray at July 05, 2016 12:52 PM (lnL+g)
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You tear up the social contract, you abandon the proper relations between people...well, shit happens.
May the lot of them fry in hell.
May the lot of them fry in hell.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at July 05, 2016 12:52 PM (vyqqu)
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And the elites wonder why things like Brexit are happening.
Posted by: JackStraw
They don't wonder. They just don't care why. They'll make you stay.
And the elites wonder why things like Brexit are happening.
Posted by: JackStraw
They don't wonder. They just don't care why. They'll make you stay.
Posted by: pep at July 05, 2016 12:52 PM (3e8zv)
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Well, after reading that excellent piece, my rage headache has resumed.
So glad my late parents didn't have to witness this shit.
So glad my late parents didn't have to witness this shit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 12:52 PM (1ZOkK)
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The Canadian woke up. He's was a DC Harvard lawyer. Bet he's got something intelligent and direct to say:
twitter.com/tedcruz/status/750368982398410752
Nope. Tweeted a link to a youtube parody video and called it a day.
The Canadian woke up. He's was a DC Harvard lawyer. Bet he's got something intelligent and direct to say:
twitter.com/tedcruz/status/750368982398410752
Nope. Tweeted a link to a youtube parody video and called it a day.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2016 12:52 PM (kdS6q)
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I learned this weekend that SF General Hospital is now Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital. Yes, I can appreciate they must have given them a chunk of change (and which they also benefited From IRS wise) but what a long stupid narcissistic name.
I learned this weekend that SF General Hospital is now Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital. Yes, I can appreciate they must have given them a chunk of change (and which they also benefited From IRS wise) but what a long stupid narcissistic name.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 05, 2016 12:53 PM (iQIUe)
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It is past time for an Art V convention so we can split the country up into parts. The current Democrat Party can not get elected anywhere but urban areas where all the blacks in the FSA have congregated.
We here would still be a two Party system though, the RNCe and the conservatives.
We here would still be a two Party system though, the RNCe and the conservatives.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 05, 2016 12:53 PM (mpXpK)
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"...isn't it time citizens fundamentally transformed their relationship with the rogue government?"
.......................
Treat them like the enemy they are?
.......................
Treat them like the enemy they are?
Posted by: wth at July 05, 2016 12:54 PM (HgMAr)
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What's the move? I really would like to know.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 12:51 PM (TOk1P)
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Please don't throw anything at me, but......
Vote.
To those who say we can't vote our way out of this, I say we have a chance with Trump.
What's the move? I really would like to know.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 12:51 PM (TOk1P)
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Please don't throw anything at me, but......
Vote.
To those who say we can't vote our way out of this, I say we have a chance with Trump.
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 12:54 PM (pC96u)
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It was very important to Hillary that we all understood that nothing
that she emailed was marked as classified at the time that she sent it.
Why did she bother with that explanation? As we learned today, she
didn't even need that defense. She sent things that were marked as
classified. No consequences.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at July 05, 2016 12:48 PM (xN1DB)
--It wasn't a defense. She has no defense. She had to say something to try to convince people that she actually had a defense, and to give her surrogates something to say.The markings are irrelevant. The information is either classified, or it is not.
It was very important to Hillary that we all understood that nothing
that she emailed was marked as classified at the time that she sent it.
Why did she bother with that explanation? As we learned today, she
didn't even need that defense. She sent things that were marked as
classified. No consequences.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at July 05, 2016 12:48 PM (xN1DB)
--It wasn't a defense. She has no defense. She had to say something to try to convince people that she actually had a defense, and to give her surrogates something to say.The markings are irrelevant. The information is either classified, or it is not.
Posted by: Revenant at July 05, 2016 12:54 PM (3DSAh)
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>>>>It was very important to Hillary that we all understood that nothing
that she emailed was marked as classified at the time that she sent it.
Why did she bother with that explanation? As we learned today, she
didn't even need that defense. She sent things that were marked as
classified. No consequences.
.
.
.
.hillary lied every time she opened her mouth during this entire mess she made and the Director of the FBI admitted on National television that everything she told the Country was a lie and the libs have no problem with that.
No classified material-lie.
One server - lie.
She wanted to use only one device to make it simple for her-lie.
Turned over all work related emails-lie.
that she emailed was marked as classified at the time that she sent it.
Why did she bother with that explanation? As we learned today, she
didn't even need that defense. She sent things that were marked as
classified. No consequences.
.
.
.
.hillary lied every time she opened her mouth during this entire mess she made and the Director of the FBI admitted on National television that everything she told the Country was a lie and the libs have no problem with that.
No classified material-lie.
One server - lie.
She wanted to use only one device to make it simple for her-lie.
Turned over all work related emails-lie.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 05, 2016 12:54 PM (iONHu)
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Quite ironic that Comet does this the day after Indepence day.
Posted by: @votermom at July 05, 2016 12:55 PM (7lVbc)
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We have soldiers and Marines in Leavenworth who did NOTHING compared to what the Hell Beast did.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 12:56 PM (1ZOkK)
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The Kurt Schlicter podcast was pretty epic too, if you haven't listened to it yet.
To stock up for long term...JHP or FMJ?
To stock up for long term...JHP or FMJ?
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at July 05, 2016 12:56 PM (xVgrA)
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Mr. BTEG and I and both the BTEG kids have chronic illnesses. Australia or NZ is right out for us. Don't know where else to go.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 05, 2016 12:56 PM (FQKBL)
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The Canadian woke up. He's was a DC Harvard lawyer. Bet he's got something intelligent and direct to say:
twitter.com/tedcruz/status/750368982398410752
Nope. Tweeted a link to a youtube parody video and called it a day.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
It's all a game to the DC Establishment
twitter.com/tedcruz/status/750368982398410752
Nope. Tweeted a link to a youtube parody video and called it a day.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
It's all a game to the DC Establishment
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 12:56 PM (Jzg4b)
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Out - Prosecuting Cankles for her crimes
In - Prosecuting corporations for their crimes against nature by denyingglobal warming climate change whatever the fake scientists decide to call it tomorrow
In - Prosecuting corporations for their crimes against nature by denying
Posted by: the new American Justass System at July 05, 2016 12:56 PM (H9MG5)
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It's time for non-politician political leaders on the right to assemble and plan.
Get started, NOW.
Get started, NOW.
Posted by: artist at July 05, 2016 12:57 PM (TwnkX)
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Lynch was one of the lawyers representing the Clintons during Whitewater?
Man oh man...
OK, definitely time to go fishing.
Man oh man...
OK, definitely time to go fishing.
Posted by: Meremortal, Bigly Matters at July 05, 2016 12:57 PM (3myMJ)
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NZ has very strict immigration laws. Are you wealthy, or do you have very specialized skills?
Posted by: pep at July 05, 2016 12:50 PM (3e8zv)
...............
I'm and engineer (please no pocket protector or lack of sex jokes). And one of my best friends has two pieces of property there. But you're right, they are very strict and I might not qualify.
So... bugs and howler monkeys here I come.
Posted by: pep at July 05, 2016 12:50 PM (3e8zv)
...............
I'm and engineer (please no pocket protector or lack of sex jokes). And one of my best friends has two pieces of property there. But you're right, they are very strict and I might not qualify.
So... bugs and howler monkeys here I come.
Posted by: wth at July 05, 2016 12:57 PM (HgMAr)
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I agree with that piece in all the ways.
I just despair as to the historical manner in which such a separation takes place.
I just despair as to the historical manner in which such a separation takes place.
Posted by: alexthechick - I despair I despair at July 05, 2016 12:57 PM (mf5HN)
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On a lighter note, MegaMillion just went up another 5 million. The jackpot is $319,700,000 or $193,098, 800 after federal taxes.
On a lighter note, MegaMillion just went up another 5 million. The jackpot is $319,700,000 or $193,098, 800 after federal taxes.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 05, 2016 12:58 PM (iQIUe)
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I have been wrong every time. I never believed Obama would be elected in 2008. I was sure he would lose in 2012. I was positive the Supreme Court would sink Obamacare, and I could not believe the lesbian demon bitch would skate on this email thing..........But, Comey said not one word about the supposed Clinton Foundation investigation. Could there be another shoe to drop?............Naw. I should have learned my lessen.
Posted by: c6dave at July 05, 2016 12:58 PM (6Pf5l)
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>>Why did she bother with that explanation? As we learned today, she
didn't even need that defense. She sent things that were marked as
classified. No consequences.
She sent things that were labeled Top Secret Special Access at the time and no consequences. This is a clear violation of the law. A fucking monkey should be able to prosecute this case.
didn't even need that defense. She sent things that were marked as
classified. No consequences.
She sent things that were labeled Top Secret Special Access at the time and no consequences. This is a clear violation of the law. A fucking monkey should be able to prosecute this case.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 12:58 PM (/tuJf)
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It's a good start, but it kind of fails to recognize how much "conservative" fingerprints are all over this mess, too. Unfortunately, many conservatives (the leadership, at the very least) have gone along with all of this stuff, often serving as a loyal rubber-stamp, or offering token verbal resistance, at best.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 05, 2016 12:58 PM (rznWS)
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Sadly, we aren't voting our way out of this http://tinyurl.com/zkgxtlb
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 12:58 PM (kEFn+)
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The last time I remember feeling like this was the day the OJ Simpson "not guilty" vote was announced.
I know there are differences between the two situations. It's just the feeling that the system is truly, irrevocably broken and rigged.
I know there are differences between the two situations. It's just the feeling that the system is truly, irrevocably broken and rigged.
Posted by: RM at July 05, 2016 12:58 PM (U3LtS)
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What's the move? I really would like to know.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 12:51 PM (TOk1P)
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Please don't throw anything at me, but......
Vote.
To those who say we can't vote our way out of this, I say we have a chance with Trump.
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 12:54 PM (pC96u)
I would like to see some movement in how this election is going to play out, and maybe that will happen. Right now though, it looks like, if things stay close, she'll win, because she can get the electoral votes she needs much more easily than he can.
A Trump win will not change much, really. I don't mean to say there's no difference between her and him, what I mean is, the momentum is all in her favor, all in the favor of a continued federal usurpation, and if he is elected, he might not be in any position to change that momentum.
So at best he's slowing it down, until the next time. So we're going to have to have SOMETHING else happen, in addition to voting.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 12:51 PM (TOk1P)
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Please don't throw anything at me, but......
Vote.
To those who say we can't vote our way out of this, I say we have a chance with Trump.
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 12:54 PM (pC96u)
I would like to see some movement in how this election is going to play out, and maybe that will happen. Right now though, it looks like, if things stay close, she'll win, because she can get the electoral votes she needs much more easily than he can.
A Trump win will not change much, really. I don't mean to say there's no difference between her and him, what I mean is, the momentum is all in her favor, all in the favor of a continued federal usurpation, and if he is elected, he might not be in any position to change that momentum.
So at best he's slowing it down, until the next time. So we're going to have to have SOMETHING else happen, in addition to voting.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 12:59 PM (TOk1P)
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What bothers me about today's presser is that he didn't have to say all of that stuff. He could have walked in and said they found no evidence of any crimes and let it go at that. He didn't have to detail everything they found and basically admit hillary had committed multiple crimes. Perplexing.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 05, 2016 01:00 PM (iONHu)
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So when does Pretraeus get his Obama pardon?
Posted by: Iblis at July 05, 2016 01:00 PM (9221z)
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To those who say we can't vote our way out of this, I say we have a chance with Trump.
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Trump won't really fix it beyond demonstrating how little We the People have in common with the foreigners in DC (though actively burning down the international trade/financial system would go a long way towards correcting the power imbalance between us).
But I think there is value in shouting "No!" one last time before the shooting starts.
---
Trump won't really fix it beyond demonstrating how little We the People have in common with the foreigners in DC (though actively burning down the international trade/financial system would go a long way towards correcting the power imbalance between us).
But I think there is value in shouting "No!" one last time before the shooting starts.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at July 05, 2016 01:00 PM (3Liv/)
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I think what pisses me off is how many people don't recognize how truly broken our justice system really is.
So many sheeple will just go along with it.
The only way things change is with a rebellion.
So many sheeple will just go along with it.
The only way things change is with a rebellion.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 01:00 PM (Jzg4b)
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Wasn't there a thing about Whitewater where the FBI thought she was guilty as sin, but did not recommend charging her because they thought there was no way they thought they'd get a guilty verdict?
Is that what we're seeing here?
Oh, and screw the rules. Break 'em every chance you get.
Is that what we're seeing here?
Oh, and screw the rules. Break 'em every chance you get.
Posted by: Chupacabra at July 05, 2016 01:01 PM (F26eZ)
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Boy do I feel stupid for following the rules, regulations, and laws. Who would've thought you could be president, or at least nominated by a major party, by lying, cheating, circumventing, and criminal behavior.
Ben Rhodes and Jonathan Gruber are doing a little dance today.
Ben Rhodes and Jonathan Gruber are doing a little dance today.
Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at July 05, 2016 01:01 PM (/He1L)
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But, I was informed that the disparate convictions of AAs is what is wrong in America!
Posted by: Joe Mama at July 05, 2016 01:02 PM (hS+ZP)
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The only way things change is with a rebellion.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 01:00 PM (Jzg4b)
Which is what the left wants, because they think for some reason they'll win.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 01:00 PM (Jzg4b)
Which is what the left wants, because they think for some reason they'll win.
Posted by: Iblis at July 05, 2016 01:02 PM (9221z)
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Hillary Clinton/Lois Lerner 2016!!!
Because, FUCK YOU!!!
Because, FUCK YOU!!!
Posted by: proudvastrightwingconspirator at July 05, 2016 01:02 PM (uwRNQ)
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Hillary.. left free just like Nadal Hassan, the illegal alien that killed Kate Steinle, the San Bernardino shooters, the Orlando shooter, etc, etc, etc...
Posted by: the new American Justass System at July 05, 2016 01:02 PM (H9MG5)
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"Could there be another shoe to drop?............Naw. I should have learned my lessen."
She is untouchable. Period.
She is untouchable. Period.
Posted by: RM at July 05, 2016 01:02 PM (U3LtS)
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I'm glad you moved this to the center section. Schlicter summarizes it better than I ever could.
Trump will f-this up, of course. Even so, the point is still valid.
Trump will f-this up, of course. Even so, the point is still valid.
Posted by: RobM1981 at July 05, 2016 01:02 PM (VVBN7)
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>>> There is no legitimate government in these united States of America.
There are only wild, lawless brigands seeking to impose their will on us. We should deal with them accordingly.
....
The problem is bigger than that.
Let's pretend that every elected everyone suddenly died of a heart attack along with everyone running to replace them.
You would still have:
- all the unelected czars, secretaries, etc.
- the giant mass of agencies and their millions of employees and unions
- every college, university, secondary and primary school and all their employees, unions, and students
- all the private unions
- all the lobbying groups
Let's say that all these people also suffered simultaneous, fatal heart attacks while lighting hit their facilities and burned them to the ground...
We'd still have to deal with the 52% of the public who have repeatedly voted for this shit.
Let's expand the tragic heart failure plague to include them...
Now you're left with the 43.5% of people who never vote, the majority of which can been seen claiming that Jesse Ventura and Lee Harvey Oswald where amoung the founding fathers that signed the Declaration of the Constitution on July 4, 1976, just after WWII ended, when we declared our independence from China.
...
Tell me again how there is an electoral solution to this?
There are only wild, lawless brigands seeking to impose their will on us. We should deal with them accordingly.
....
The problem is bigger than that.
Let's pretend that every elected everyone suddenly died of a heart attack along with everyone running to replace them.
You would still have:
- all the unelected czars, secretaries, etc.
- the giant mass of agencies and their millions of employees and unions
- every college, university, secondary and primary school and all their employees, unions, and students
- all the private unions
- all the lobbying groups
Let's say that all these people also suffered simultaneous, fatal heart attacks while lighting hit their facilities and burned them to the ground...
We'd still have to deal with the 52% of the public who have repeatedly voted for this shit.
Let's expand the tragic heart failure plague to include them...
Now you're left with the 43.5% of people who never vote, the majority of which can been seen claiming that Jesse Ventura and Lee Harvey Oswald where amoung the founding fathers that signed the Declaration of the Constitution on July 4, 1976, just after WWII ended, when we declared our independence from China.
...
Tell me again how there is an electoral solution to this?
Posted by: Damiano at July 05, 2016 01:02 PM (71OEY)
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This happened because the entrenched establishment is more afraid of the beta-male-led, safe-space Progs than they are of us.
We're doing it wrong.
We're doing it wrong.
Posted by: Oedipus at July 05, 2016 01:03 PM (CXLVd)
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We were played, when the FBI said "no pictures", the fix was in. The rest was cheap theatrics.
Posted by: CaraN at July 05, 2016 01:03 PM (PVXZe)
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Everyone is now a Clogginstein. !!!;
Posted by: Buster Hymannd at July 05, 2016 01:03 PM (c5tLr)
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Hello!! FMJ or JHP for long term stockpiling?
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:03 PM (xVgrA)
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@7: "It will take a lot more than what is going on now to get a critical mass of people to rise up."
Who is going to do this rising? Most of the population *supports* what's going on.
Who is going to do this rising? Most of the population *supports* what's going on.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 05, 2016 01:03 PM (rznWS)
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We're close.
The only thing that pushes this over the edge at this point is Trumps assassination.
War is coming. Prepare.
One might even put it this way:
http://tinyurl.com/hc7cgtm
The only thing that pushes this over the edge at this point is Trumps assassination.
War is coming. Prepare.
One might even put it this way:
http://tinyurl.com/hc7cgtm
Posted by: Weirddave at July 05, 2016 01:03 PM (N8hFs)
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We know nothing today that we didn't know yesterday
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Well, actually, yesterday we didn't 'know' that the FBI would recommend ignoring the law and the obvious evidence and let Hillary and her gang go.
We might have suspected it, or even predicted it, but we didn't know. Now we do, and now we understand all the signs that were before us over the last few weeks.
The Lynch/Bill Clinton meeting is still unclear to me. Was Bill threatening Obama/Lynch? Or was Obama telling the Clinton crime family what they were going to do for him in exchange for no prosecution?
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Well, actually, yesterday we didn't 'know' that the FBI would recommend ignoring the law and the obvious evidence and let Hillary and her gang go.
We might have suspected it, or even predicted it, but we didn't know. Now we do, and now we understand all the signs that were before us over the last few weeks.
The Lynch/Bill Clinton meeting is still unclear to me. Was Bill threatening Obama/Lynch? Or was Obama telling the Clinton crime family what they were going to do for him in exchange for no prosecution?
Posted by: Hearld Coatholder at July 05, 2016 01:04 PM (Wo6be)
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He could have walked in and said they found no
evidence of any crimes and let it go at that. He didn't have to detail
everything they found and basically admit hillary had committed multiple
crimes. Perplexing.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
Kinda reminded me of Marc Antony.
evidence of any crimes and let it go at that. He didn't have to detail
everything they found and basically admit hillary had committed multiple
crimes. Perplexing.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
Kinda reminded me of Marc Antony.
Posted by: Joe Mama at July 05, 2016 01:04 PM (hS+ZP)
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IMHO, they key here is "legal civil disobedience."
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at July 05, 2016 01:04 PM (tvyXw)
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Honestly, if conservatives that wanted to end this nonsense just stopped paying their taxes this government would fall apart pretty quickly.
I'm amazed how many people will talk about stockpiling weapons, about secession, etc and not the one thing that could destroy the US very quickly.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 12:51 PM (Jzg4b)
That's something I've advocated all along.
Tens of millions quit sending money to Leviathan. Make them come after all of us. They can't.
I'm amazed how many people will talk about stockpiling weapons, about secession, etc and not the one thing that could destroy the US very quickly.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 12:51 PM (Jzg4b)
That's something I've advocated all along.
Tens of millions quit sending money to Leviathan. Make them come after all of us. They can't.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:04 PM (oO+cT)
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BREAKING: FBI finds John Wilkes Booth "extremely careless" in discharge of firearm.Stephen Green @VodkaPundit
https://twitter.com/VodkaPundit/status/750349611949142016
BREAKING: FBI finds John Wilkes Booth "extremely careless" in discharge of firearm.Stephen Green @VodkaPundit
https://twitter.com/VodkaPundit/status/750349611949142016
Posted by: Breaking at July 05, 2016 01:04 PM (YQ046)
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Please don't throw anything at me, but......
Vote.
- - - -
I will trust the ballot box one more time but this will be my last election.
I believe the fix is in. If Clinton got off on this, the election will be a joke. And after she wins, it will likely be the last election this country sees.
Vote.
- - - -
I will trust the ballot box one more time but this will be my last election.
I believe the fix is in. If Clinton got off on this, the election will be a joke. And after she wins, it will likely be the last election this country sees.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2016 01:04 PM (r65B3)
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The only way things change is with a rebellion.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 01:00 PM (Jzg4b)
Which is what the left wants, because they think for some reason they'll win.
Posted by: Iblis
I don't think they "want it", that's a big reason why they are trying to disarm us at every opportunity.
The difference between the Left and Right is they want to rule us against our will. The Left NEVER talks about things like secession, they want us under their rule. Our side is fine with the Blue States striking out on their own.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 01:00 PM (Jzg4b)
Which is what the left wants, because they think for some reason they'll win.
Posted by: Iblis
I don't think they "want it", that's a big reason why they are trying to disarm us at every opportunity.
The difference between the Left and Right is they want to rule us against our will. The Left NEVER talks about things like secession, they want us under their rule. Our side is fine with the Blue States striking out on their own.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 01:05 PM (Jzg4b)
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The focus should now shift to Paul Ryan, the turtle and the GOPe. If they don't come out with flame throwers they will lose legitimacy and should be deemed as being formally in the Hillary column.
Posted by: Decaf at July 05, 2016 01:05 PM (dRz86)
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If you ever wonder why the GOPe seems never to do anything constructive to stop the evil march towards fascism that is the progressive party, consider that they too are bought and paid for. The power is the reward. The being "above the little people (others)" is the reward for going along with the great swindle.
Politicians are beholden to corporations, who now supply both the money and the laws which they want passed. You, mere dandelion, are simply an unfortunate consequence of uncontrolled population expansion. Corporations rule all, and politicians are put into place at the whims of the bog money donors, now all corporations thanks to Citizens United.
Globalization means money for the Clinton coffers, which means power, which means that Hillary was never going to jail. Which you knew already, if you're honest with yourself.
The only thing that seems to have changed now is that they no longer care to uphold appearances of propriety. That in itself bothers me more than Hillary now getting a free orange pantsuit. When they quit caring if you know a game is afoot, it means they consider you impotent and or pacified.
Because let's face it, who among us is really going to march on Washington for scalps? And if we did, what would actually come of it other than hot air and some trampled lawns?
Politicians are beholden to corporations, who now supply both the money and the laws which they want passed. You, mere dandelion, are simply an unfortunate consequence of uncontrolled population expansion. Corporations rule all, and politicians are put into place at the whims of the bog money donors, now all corporations thanks to Citizens United.
Globalization means money for the Clinton coffers, which means power, which means that Hillary was never going to jail. Which you knew already, if you're honest with yourself.
The only thing that seems to have changed now is that they no longer care to uphold appearances of propriety. That in itself bothers me more than Hillary now getting a free orange pantsuit. When they quit caring if you know a game is afoot, it means they consider you impotent and or pacified.
Because let's face it, who among us is really going to march on Washington for scalps? And if we did, what would actually come of it other than hot air and some trampled lawns?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 05, 2016 01:05 PM (2PHKP)
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>>>>He could have walked in and said they found no
evidence of any crimes and let it go at that. He didn't have to detail
everything they found and basically admit hillary had committed multiple
crimes. Perplexing.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
Kinda reminded me of Marc Antony.
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.The only thing that might make sense is that he knew if he did that there would be a continuous stream of "leaks" to the press from agents who worked on the case.
evidence of any crimes and let it go at that. He didn't have to detail
everything they found and basically admit hillary had committed multiple
crimes. Perplexing.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
Kinda reminded me of Marc Antony.
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.The only thing that might make sense is that he knew if he did that there would be a continuous stream of "leaks" to the press from agents who worked on the case.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 05, 2016 01:05 PM (iONHu)
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--It wasn't a defense. She has no defense. She had to say something to try to convince people that she actually had a defense, and to give her surrogates something to say.The markings are irrelevant. The information is either classified, or it is not.
Posted by: Revenant at July 05, 2016 12:54 PM (3DSAh)
Yep. Like the story about the video maker causing the outbreaks that led to Benghazi. It was a fiction from the start. Nobody intended it to remain intact throughout, it only provided them cover long enough for the narrative to keep from moving in a direction they did not want it to go. And they knew, eventually, the public would move on dot org. Which it did.
They use the tools they have. Coherent Truth is not even remotely one of them.
Posted by: Revenant at July 05, 2016 12:54 PM (3DSAh)
Yep. Like the story about the video maker causing the outbreaks that led to Benghazi. It was a fiction from the start. Nobody intended it to remain intact throughout, it only provided them cover long enough for the narrative to keep from moving in a direction they did not want it to go. And they knew, eventually, the public would move on dot org. Which it did.
They use the tools they have. Coherent Truth is not even remotely one of them.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 01:06 PM (TOk1P)
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Just jumped on the internet for the first time today. Wow. All I can say is just...wow. Though not at all surprised that this bitch is guilty as sin and free as a bird, I had clung to the belief that maybe, just maybe we weren't a total sump hole of a lawless country. Well, we are. Ever feel a quiet rage bubbling up? I hope enough of this country's citizens feel just that way in November.
Now I fully expect the MFM to engage in 'round the clock, full-on repair mode, complete with calls to put it all behind us and those that don't are only doing so because she's a womyn and/or part of the vast right wing conspiracy. It will be a parade of media insanity to paper over this bitch's crimes.
Now I fully expect the MFM to engage in 'round the clock, full-on repair mode, complete with calls to put it all behind us and those that don't are only doing so because she's a womyn and/or part of the vast right wing conspiracy. It will be a parade of media insanity to paper over this bitch's crimes.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at July 05, 2016 01:06 PM (+FSld)
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To those who say we can't vote our way out of this, I say we have a chance with Trump.
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 12:54 PM (pC96u)
Trump will only slow it down. On the bright side, his win will give us more time to prepare.
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 12:54 PM (pC96u)
Trump will only slow it down. On the bright side, his win will give us more time to prepare.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:06 PM (oO+cT)
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57 So when does Pretraeus get his Obama pardon?
Posted by: Iblis at July 05, 2016 01:00 PM (9221z)
He doesn't...
He is on probation... and they need that 'stick' above his head to ensure he remains silent on all the OTHER crap he knows about.
His prosecution was never about the Law... or Security... it was about Legal Blackmail using the Judicial system.
Posted by: Iblis at July 05, 2016 01:00 PM (9221z)
He doesn't...
He is on probation... and they need that 'stick' above his head to ensure he remains silent on all the OTHER crap he knows about.
His prosecution was never about the Law... or Security... it was about Legal Blackmail using the Judicial system.
Posted by: Don Q. at July 05, 2016 01:06 PM (qf6WZ)
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I'm taking comfort in Rush. "Go ahead and grind your teeth for a while, but come back."
I'm taking comfort in Rush. "Go ahead and grind your teeth for a while, but come back."
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 01:06 PM (pC96u)
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Plunder and Deceit, Corruption and Cronyism, Theft and Tyranny.
At a minimum we owe them a big middle finger. Although the 2 calories it takes to do it probably isn't worth it.
Plunder and Deceit, Corruption and Cronyism, Theft and Tyranny.
At a minimum we owe them a big middle finger. Although the 2 calories it takes to do it probably isn't worth it.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 05, 2016 01:06 PM (ODxAs)
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There's a lady who's sure
All that glitters is gold
And she's buying the stairway to Heaven
...
It makes me wonder
All that glitters is gold
And she's buying the stairway to Heaven
...
It makes me wonder
Posted by: Socratease at July 05, 2016 01:07 PM (FqHs5)
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Figures you all would willow me on a day like this? Sigh
And this Schlicter guy, he sucked as a NFL QB
And this Schlicter guy, he sucked as a NFL QB
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:07 PM (zp+j1)
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If anyone is on the fence about voting for Trump, get the hell down.
Whatever you think about him, if what happened today does not make you want to cast a vote to punish Tia Borracha, then you can leave this website and never post again.
If anyone is on the fence about voting for Trump, get the hell down.
Whatever you think about him, if what happened today does not make you want to cast a vote to punish Tia Borracha, then you can leave this website and never post again.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:07 PM (p4UlV)
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Posted by: Decaf at July 05, 2016 01:05 PM (dRz86)
They already ARE in her column, and it is a fifth column. Nobody in the FBI will resign, their job is o protect oligarchs
They already ARE in her column, and it is a fifth column. Nobody in the FBI will resign, their job is o protect oligarchs
Posted by: CaraN at July 05, 2016 01:07 PM (PVXZe)
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If anyone is on the fence about voting for Trump, get the hell down.
Whatever you think about him, if what happened today does not make you want to cast a vote to punish Tia Borracha, then you can leave this website and never post again.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:07 PM (p4UlV)
He is our very last chance
If anyone is on the fence about voting for Trump, get the hell down.
Whatever you think about him, if what happened today does not make you want to cast a vote to punish Tia Borracha, then you can leave this website and never post again.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:07 PM (p4UlV)
He is our very last chance
Posted by: CaraN at July 05, 2016 01:08 PM (PVXZe)
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59 I think what pisses me off is how many people don't recognize how truly broken our justice system really is.
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The messed up thing is that the BLM protesters are actually pretty close to being right. They're just mistaken about which groups are privileged in the system and which aren't.
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The messed up thing is that the BLM protesters are actually pretty close to being right. They're just mistaken about which groups are privileged in the system and which aren't.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 05, 2016 01:08 PM (KUaJL)
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It's just a special "the law does not apply to this person" ruling.
But just try putting a flaming bag of dog poop at your local Democrat Party HQ.
It's just a special "the law does not apply to this person" ruling.
But just try putting a flaming bag of dog poop at your local Democrat Party HQ.
Posted by: DaveA at July 05, 2016 01:08 PM (8J/Te)
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Whatever you think about him, if what happened today does not make you want to cast a vote to punish Tia Borracha, then you can leave this website and never post again.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:07 PM (p4UlV)
I remember a Car ride with you about 1 month and 1/2 ago...LOL...You've come a long way!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:07 PM (p4UlV)
I remember a Car ride with you about 1 month and 1/2 ago...LOL...You've come a long way!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:08 PM (zp+j1)
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>>>>
The only way things change is with a rebellion.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 01:00 PM (Jzg4b)
Which is what the left wants, because they think for some reason they'll win.
Posted by: Iblis
I don't think they "want it", that's a big reason why they are trying to disarm us at every opportunity.
The difference between the Left and Right is they want to rule us
against our will. The Left NEVER talks about things like secession,
they want us under their rule. Our side is fine with the Blue States
striking out on their own.
.
.
.
.They can't even get to first base in their attempt to disarm us. CT and NY proved that when they had less than a 20% compliance rate with their registration laws.
The only way things change is with a rebellion.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 01:00 PM (Jzg4b)
Which is what the left wants, because they think for some reason they'll win.
Posted by: Iblis
I don't think they "want it", that's a big reason why they are trying to disarm us at every opportunity.
The difference between the Left and Right is they want to rule us
against our will. The Left NEVER talks about things like secession,
they want us under their rule. Our side is fine with the Blue States
striking out on their own.
.
.
.
.They can't even get to first base in their attempt to disarm us. CT and NY proved that when they had less than a 20% compliance rate with their registration laws.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 05, 2016 01:08 PM (iONHu)
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"Trump will only slow it down. On the bright side, his win will give us more time to prepare"
How can people look at his corruption on all levels and think he'll slow the decline one bit?
He cares less than even the Clintons do about the appearance of impropriety.
How can people look at his corruption on all levels and think he'll slow the decline one bit?
He cares less than even the Clintons do about the appearance of impropriety.
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (kEFn+)
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Yo!
Posted by: Yo! at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (GwIKd)
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@50: "I have been wrong every time."
You're hardly alone. If progressivism is the elevation of ideology over reality, conservatism seems to have become the elevation of hope over reality.
You're hardly alone. If progressivism is the elevation of ideology over reality, conservatism seems to have become the elevation of hope over reality.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (rznWS)
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The Texas Declaration of Independence was written overnight. Just sayin'
Posted by: Lauren...TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (JQsZt)
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On a related note, does anyone have Sharkman's email address? Went looking for it yesterday, but couldn't remember which thread he dropped into.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (FQKBL)
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He is our very last chance
Posted by: CaraN at July 05, 2016 01:08 PM (PVXZe)
He's a huge question mark. But to allow what happened today to continue for 4-8 more years means we are going to be on the shit end of the stick and the nation will die.
She must not be allowed to win. Period. Full stop.
He is our very last chance
Posted by: CaraN at July 05, 2016 01:08 PM (PVXZe)
He's a huge question mark. But to allow what happened today to continue for 4-8 more years means we are going to be on the shit end of the stick and the nation will die.
She must not be allowed to win. Period. Full stop.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (p4UlV)
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"19 NZ here I come. I might choose Costa Rica but there's lots of bugs."
New Zealand is a perfect place, no snakes and no animals bigger than a kiwi. What's more they have a conservative-ish government at present.
New Zealand is a perfect place, no snakes and no animals bigger than a kiwi. What's more they have a conservative-ish government at present.
Posted by: Decaf at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (dRz86)
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What bothers me about today's presser is that he didn't have to say all of that stuff. He could have walked in and said they found no evidence of any crimes and let it go at that. He didn't have to detail everything they found and basically admit hillary had committed multiple crimes. Perplexing
Back in the bad old days of Watergate, all the talking politicians on TV were ambushed and accused by reporters, and the slippery Pol said a lot of words that the reportes (in private) called a non denial denial.
I'm thinking this is the same thing. Comey layed out the evidence and then made it clear that Obama/Lynch wasn't going to prosecute, and that he was just following orders of his boss(es).
Back in the bad old days of Watergate, all the talking politicians on TV were ambushed and accused by reporters, and the slippery Pol said a lot of words that the reportes (in private) called a non denial denial.
I'm thinking this is the same thing. Comey layed out the evidence and then made it clear that Obama/Lynch wasn't going to prosecute, and that he was just following orders of his boss(es).
Posted by: Hearld Coatholder at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (Wo6be)
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Whatever you think about him, if what happened today does not make you want to cast a vote to punish Tia Borracha, then you can leave this website and never post again.
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I'm not deliberately writing anything anti-trump except to respond to these types of comments. Want to know the truth - today's actions do actually sort of make me want to vote for him. But I will not, I will not go to hell, and I will not stop posting.
That being said, I think today's actions will drive a lot of people who are on the fence off it.
I'm still not voting for him. And I think Hillary is a criminal. And I think the GOP should start impeaching officials and/or defunding departments.
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I'm not deliberately writing anything anti-trump except to respond to these types of comments. Want to know the truth - today's actions do actually sort of make me want to vote for him. But I will not, I will not go to hell, and I will not stop posting.
That being said, I think today's actions will drive a lot of people who are on the fence off it.
I'm still not voting for him. And I think Hillary is a criminal. And I think the GOP should start impeaching officials and/or defunding departments.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Joe Mama at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (hS+ZP)
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I feel like being "extremely careless" with my taxes from now on.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (1ZOkK)
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They must have pictures of Comey naked with small farm animals.
I have never seen such convoluted and obviously political reasoning in my entire life.
She didn't "intend" to break the law, ergo she's not guilty?
So I can go out and murder someone tomorrow and then say I did not intend to do so and it's just ducky?
The FBI is a pathetic joke.
I have never seen such convoluted and obviously political reasoning in my entire life.
She didn't "intend" to break the law, ergo she's not guilty?
So I can go out and murder someone tomorrow and then say I did not intend to do so and it's just ducky?
The FBI is a pathetic joke.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (O0lVq)
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We know nothing today that we didn't know yesterday
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Well, actually, yesterday we didn't 'know' that the FBI would recommend ignoring the law and the obvious evidence and let Hillary and her gang go.
We might have suspected it, or even predicted it, but we didn't know.
Posted by: Hearld Coatholder at July 05, 2016 01:04 PM (Wo6be)
Sure we did. We knew.
We didn't have evidence we could take into court, but as we all know too well, this isn't court.
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Well, actually, yesterday we didn't 'know' that the FBI would recommend ignoring the law and the obvious evidence and let Hillary and her gang go.
We might have suspected it, or even predicted it, but we didn't know.
Posted by: Hearld Coatholder at July 05, 2016 01:04 PM (Wo6be)
Sure we did. We knew.
We didn't have evidence we could take into court, but as we all know too well, this isn't court.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (TOk1P)
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Hillary Clinton Spokesman: Pleased Career Officials Have Determined No Further Action By The Department Is Appropriate
Weasel Zippers
Actually that says it all "Career Officals"
Career Officals should all be taken out to the rail with some tar and feathers
Weasel Zippers
Actually that says it all "Career Officals"
Career Officals should all be taken out to the rail with some tar and feathers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (zp+j1)
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"When a government has ceased to protect the lives, liberty and property of the people, from whom its legitimate powers are derived, and for the advancement of whose happiness it was instituted, and so far from being a guarantee for the enjoyment of those inestimable and inalienable rights, becomes an instrument in the hands of evil rulers for their oppression."
Posted by: Lauren...TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (JQsZt)
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The focus should now shift to Paul Ryan, the turtle and the GOPe. If they don't come out with flame throwers they will lose legitimacy and should be deemed as being formally in the Hillary column.
Posted by: Decaf
Ryan released a one paragraph waffle, McConnell has pulled back in his shell and said nada, and except for literally one or two people, the other nearly 300 GOP elected officials in DC have rigged for silent running.
The focus should now shift to Paul Ryan, the turtle and the GOPe. If they don't come out with flame throwers they will lose legitimacy and should be deemed as being formally in the Hillary column.
Posted by: Decaf
Ryan released a one paragraph waffle, McConnell has pulled back in his shell and said nada, and except for literally one or two people, the other nearly 300 GOP elected officials in DC have rigged for silent running.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (kdS6q)
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Voting for DT is the only way to stop the hag. If you do not show up to do that you are giving aid to the enemy. DT may be an asshole but he not the enemy.
Posted by: f'd at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (BO/km)
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98 I remember a Car ride with you about 1 month and 1/2 ago...LOL...You've come a long way!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:08 PM (zp+j1)
You misremember. I never said I would not vote for Trump. I said I have serious concerns about his positions on key issues.
But Clinton Must Be Stopped.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:08 PM (zp+j1)
You misremember. I never said I would not vote for Trump. I said I have serious concerns about his positions on key issues.
But Clinton Must Be Stopped.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (p4UlV)
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I'm sure someone has mentioned this already, but it appears that the FBI doesn't know what intent means...
If I push a guy and he hits his head and dies, I am GUILTY of homicide. The act that resulted in death, the push, was INTENTIONAL. If someone bumps me, and I bump into someone who falls and dies, no intent, no guilt.
If I press "send" on an email with confidential info in it, that is the intentional action required. The sender doesn't have to want to hurt the country. Just intentionally sending the info is the crime.
And that doesn't even involve willful negligence of such a degree that rises to intent, legally.
Where is Gabe? Can we get his opinion?
If I push a guy and he hits his head and dies, I am GUILTY of homicide. The act that resulted in death, the push, was INTENTIONAL. If someone bumps me, and I bump into someone who falls and dies, no intent, no guilt.
If I press "send" on an email with confidential info in it, that is the intentional action required. The sender doesn't have to want to hurt the country. Just intentionally sending the info is the crime.
And that doesn't even involve willful negligence of such a degree that rises to intent, legally.
Where is Gabe? Can we get his opinion?
Posted by: Roland Deschaines at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (ait/4)
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The up and downs of the past year are steadily grinding me down! Saturday, The Haggard Queen gets "grilled" by the FBI... Today, no charges! Lemme guess -- Not even T. rump can stop Her Imperial Highness now!
I had been planning to sit out Election Day, though now, casting one more vote against this criminal is the only honourable thing I can do!
I had been planning to sit out Election Day, though now, casting one more vote against this criminal is the only honourable thing I can do!
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 05, 2016 01:11 PM (kP16F)
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I want to throat-punch the Dem strategist defending Hillary on Fox now. Fucking bastard.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:11 PM (1ZOkK)
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"23
NZ here I come.
NZ has very strict immigration laws. Are you wealthy, or do you have very specialized skills?
Posted by: pep at July 05, 2016 12:50 PM (3e8zv)"
At a gathering on the 4th someone was telling me that if you have those skills, the New Zealand government will pay something like $160,000 relocation assistance. It seems that they have some critical shortages in some occupations. Eight years ago this guy never would have thought of living anywhere but the United States. Today he is seriously looking into it.
NZ here I come.
NZ has very strict immigration laws. Are you wealthy, or do you have very specialized skills?
Posted by: pep at July 05, 2016 12:50 PM (3e8zv)"
At a gathering on the 4th someone was telling me that if you have those skills, the New Zealand government will pay something like $160,000 relocation assistance. It seems that they have some critical shortages in some occupations. Eight years ago this guy never would have thought of living anywhere but the United States. Today he is seriously looking into it.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 05, 2016 01:11 PM (QHgTq)
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113
Career Officals should all be taken out to the rail with some tar and feathers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (zp+j1
Tar and feathers. I have a different definition of those.
Career Officals should all be taken out to the rail with some tar and feathers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (zp+j1
Tar and feathers. I have a different definition of those.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:11 PM (p4UlV)
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26
Honestly, if conservatives that wanted to end this nonsense just stopped
paying their taxes this government would fall apart pretty quickly.
I'm amazed how many people will talk about stockpiling weapons,
about secession, etc and not the one thing that could destroy the US
very quickly.
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Less than 1 million people who refused to pay their taxes would choke the court system to a dead halt.
But, are you going to be first?
Who is the John Brown?
No?
No. We're all going to get up tomorrow and go back to work again. Just like today and every day after.
Because we are no where near the "intolerable" stage.
We all admit we are losing ground, faster and more every day.
But--you can't leave your home, your spouse, your children, your steady 3 hots a day.
We are slaves without even the imagination of freedom left to look toward . . . .
Honestly, if conservatives that wanted to end this nonsense just stopped
paying their taxes this government would fall apart pretty quickly.
I'm amazed how many people will talk about stockpiling weapons,
about secession, etc and not the one thing that could destroy the US
very quickly.
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Less than 1 million people who refused to pay their taxes would choke the court system to a dead halt.
But, are you going to be first?
Who is the John Brown?
No?
No. We're all going to get up tomorrow and go back to work again. Just like today and every day after.
Because we are no where near the "intolerable" stage.
We all admit we are losing ground, faster and more every day.
But--you can't leave your home, your spouse, your children, your steady 3 hots a day.
We are slaves without even the imagination of freedom left to look toward . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 05, 2016 01:11 PM (77emZ)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (kdS6q)
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13: "Fuck this place I want out."
They won't let you out.
But for the sake of argument, even if you were to make it out like one of the East Berlin escapees, where would you go?
This goes only one way.
Prepare.
They won't let you out.
But for the sake of argument, even if you were to make it out like one of the East Berlin escapees, where would you go?
This goes only one way.
Prepare.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or TEXIT) at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (z/vX9)
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There is some joking, but people should be prepared. In liberal cities the cops are either voluntarily or being told to not respond when leftist protestors attack conservatives or republicans. "Space to destroy" has become a national policy.
There is some joking, but people should be prepared. In liberal cities the cops are either voluntarily or being told to not respond when leftist protestors attack conservatives or republicans. "Space to destroy" has become a national policy.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (ODxAs)
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You misremember. I never said I would not vote for Trump. I said I have serious concerns about his positions on key issues.
But Clinton Must Be Stopped.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (p4UlV)
I know...I just don't remember you being as passionate...As I remember it was me spitting blood all over the dashboard! LOL
But Clinton Must Be Stopped.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (p4UlV)
I know...I just don't remember you being as passionate...As I remember it was me spitting blood all over the dashboard! LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (zp+j1)
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I've started a post 3 times and then better judgment kicks in and I delete it...
This one may slip past my filter:
I'm going to make it my mission to make a liberal miserable -every day. Nothing (too) illegal, just a constant pin-prick or drip-drip-drip. They opened the floodgate, now time for them to sink or swim.
This one may slip past my filter:
I'm going to make it my mission to make a liberal miserable -every day. Nothing (too) illegal, just a constant pin-prick or drip-drip-drip. They opened the floodgate, now time for them to sink or swim.
Posted by: Nuke it from orbit at July 05, 2016 01:13 PM (1aFpK)
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How can people look at his corruption on all levels and think he'll slow the decline one bit?
He cares less than even the Clintons do about the appearance of impropriety.
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (kEFn+)
What's your plan then?
He cares less than even the Clintons do about the appearance of impropriety.
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (kEFn+)
What's your plan then?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 01:13 PM (TOk1P)
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>>> I will trust the ballot box one more time but this will be my last election.
I believe the fix is in. If Clinton got off on this, the election will be a joke. And after she wins, it will likely be the last election this country sees.
....
Nah. There will always be elections. Venezuela still has elections. All the shitholes in the Mideast have elections. They are a great way for to let the rubes feel like they have a say in things.
It keeps people calm and orderly because they want to believe that there is a rule of law and their vote matters.
Meanwhile, we'll have 138% turnout in swing districts, the Voting Dead, trunks full of ballots, and the dozens of residents of vacant lots everywhere who show up to vote... but absolutely no action taken to address the disenfranchising myth of voter fraud.
I believe the fix is in. If Clinton got off on this, the election will be a joke. And after she wins, it will likely be the last election this country sees.
....
Nah. There will always be elections. Venezuela still has elections. All the shitholes in the Mideast have elections. They are a great way for to let the rubes feel like they have a say in things.
It keeps people calm and orderly because they want to believe that there is a rule of law and their vote matters.
Meanwhile, we'll have 138% turnout in swing districts, the Voting Dead, trunks full of ballots, and the dozens of residents of vacant lots everywhere who show up to vote... but absolutely no action taken to address the disenfranchising myth of voter fraud.
Posted by: Damiano at July 05, 2016 01:13 PM (71OEY)
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Less than 1 million people who refused to pay their taxes would choke the court system to a dead halt.
But, are you going to be first?
*cough* Al Sharpton *cough* But he's "Special."
But, are you going to be first?
*cough* Al Sharpton *cough* But he's "Special."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:13 PM (1ZOkK)
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>>I'm sure someone has mentioned this already, but it appears that the FBI doesn't know what intent means...
Intent does not matter. The law for handling classified information is quite clear on that.
Don't fall for the head fake. Intent is a non-issue in this case.
Intent does not matter. The law for handling classified information is quite clear on that.
Don't fall for the head fake. Intent is a non-issue in this case.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 01:13 PM (/tuJf)
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From a career law enforcement agent perspective , Comey has just stated the most possible corrupt 'reasoning' EVER in American history to ignore a pattern and preponderance of crimes.
Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at July 05, 2016 01:13 PM (713RE)
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I hold this truth to be obvious and evident: No man is created equal in America. You either are a liberal or you are a fucking pawn.
Equality died a long, long time ago.
People not only want to live on their knees, they *demand* it.
Equality died a long, long time ago.
People not only want to live on their knees, they *demand* it.
Posted by: RobM1981 at July 05, 2016 01:13 PM (VVBN7)
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@53: "Sadly, we aren't voting our way out of this"
If voting actually worked, wouldn't we be up to our eyeballs in liberty and justice by now?
If voting actually worked, wouldn't we be up to our eyeballs in liberty and justice by now?
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 05, 2016 01:13 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (p4UlV)
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Posted by: Roland Deschaines at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM
Don't be under the illusion that the law applies to the rich and powerful.
Don't be under the illusion that the law applies to the rich and powerful.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (ODxAs)
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"DT may be an asshole but he not the enemy."
Sorry but I remain unconvinced.
Just Cankles in a different suit from all I've been able to observe over the years.
Sorry but I remain unconvinced.
Just Cankles in a different suit from all I've been able to observe over the years.
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (kEFn+)
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Hello!! FMJ or JHP for long term stockpiling?
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:03 PM (xVgrA)
******
Even split. Gotta practice.
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:03 PM (xVgrA)
******
Even split. Gotta practice.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (M2zF+)
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He cares less than even the Clintons do about the appearance of impropriety.
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (kEFn+)
I'll take my chances.
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (kEFn+)
I'll take my chances.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (oO+cT)
141
Withholding makes tax revolts difficult.
Posted by: Lauren...TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (JQsZt)
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I know...I just don't remember you being as passionate...As I remember it was me spitting blood all over the dashboard! LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (zp+j1)
That's because you do your own dentistry.
I know...I just don't remember you being as passionate...As I remember it was me spitting blood all over the dashboard! LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (zp+j1)
That's because you do your own dentistry.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:15 PM (p4UlV)
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One person who should keep is friggin cake-hole shut today is Bill Kristol.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (p4UlV)
And Glenn Beck. Weepy fuck.
One person who should keep is friggin cake-hole shut today is Bill Kristol.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (p4UlV)
And Glenn Beck. Weepy fuck.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:15 PM (1ZOkK)
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@58: "But I think there is value in shouting "No!" one last time before the shooting starts."
Well, it certainly allows the enemy to get a better bead on you....
Well, it certainly allows the enemy to get a better bead on you....
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 05, 2016 01:15 PM (rznWS)
145
He cares less than even the Clintons do about the appearance of impropriety.
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (kEFn+)
And of course you have evidence of that?
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (kEFn+)
And of course you have evidence of that?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:15 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2016 01:15 PM (NOIQH)
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I'm still not voting for him.
Posted by: SH
#ImWithHer
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (kdS6q)
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Nope. I didn't bring this up. I didn't tell anyone not to vote for him. I just said I won't. I'm sorry that offends some of you. But interpret it however you want.
Posted by: SH
#ImWithHer
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (kdS6q)
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Nope. I didn't bring this up. I didn't tell anyone not to vote for him. I just said I won't. I'm sorry that offends some of you. But interpret it however you want.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:15 PM (gmeXX)
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It may be just as well she wasn't charged. How would they seat a jury? Even among gangsters the Hildabeast is without peer.
Posted by: First Comes Outrage, then Depression at July 05, 2016 01:15 PM (IcWpp)
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He cares less than even the Clintons do about the appearance of impropriety.
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As president, Donald Trump would no more be allowed "impropriety" than any other Republican. Which is none. Any hint of it as an elected office holder and he'd be skinned alive. And you know it.
Besides, DT does not hate America. He's not my guy, but I do think he loves this country and wants to make it right again. He's not an Alinksy disciple. He's not an America hater. That criminal bitch is all those things and worse.
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As president, Donald Trump would no more be allowed "impropriety" than any other Republican. Which is none. Any hint of it as an elected office holder and he'd be skinned alive. And you know it.
Besides, DT does not hate America. He's not my guy, but I do think he loves this country and wants to make it right again. He's not an Alinksy disciple. He's not an America hater. That criminal bitch is all those things and worse.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at July 05, 2016 01:15 PM (+FSld)
Posted by: f'd at July 05, 2016 01:15 PM (BO/km)
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138 "DT may be an asshole but he not the enemy."
Sorry but I remain unconvinced.
Just Cankles in a different suit from all I've been able to observe over the years.
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (kEFn+)
You go with that, champ.
Sorry but I remain unconvinced.
Just Cankles in a different suit from all I've been able to observe over the years.
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (kEFn+)
You go with that, champ.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:15 PM (p4UlV)
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And I think the GOP should start impeaching officials and/or defunding departments.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (gmeXX)
Did you just wake from an 8 year nap?
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (gmeXX)
Did you just wake from an 8 year nap?
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:16 PM (oO+cT)
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I know...I just don't remember you being as passionate...As I remember it was me spitting blood all over the dashboard! LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (zp+j1)
That's because you do your own dentistry.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:15 PM (p4UlV)
Touche
Point to J.J. Sefton
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (zp+j1)
That's because you do your own dentistry.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:15 PM (p4UlV)
Touche
Point to J.J. Sefton
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:16 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: ArthurK at July 05, 2016 01:16 PM (h53OH)
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@123: Well said
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:16 PM (kEFn+)
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What the fudge is this "careless" and "intent" business?! Those aren't components of the law? This is just maddening.
And all the LiV will be out and about to today to rub our noses in a fake and absolutely incorrect statement by Coney the goddamn traitor. Eff all these people straight to hell. I'm donating to Trump today. It will mean nothing but at least there's the chance for one last middle finger to these people before the Granny-ing happens.
And all the LiV will be out and about to today to rub our noses in a fake and absolutely incorrect statement by Coney the goddamn traitor. Eff all these people straight to hell. I'm donating to Trump today. It will mean nothing but at least there's the chance for one last middle finger to these people before the Granny-ing happens.
Posted by: Eli Cash at July 05, 2016 01:16 PM (D8QKp)
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I feel like being "extremely careless" with my taxes from now on.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (1ZOkK)
However many exemptions you currently take, double them at a minimum.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (1ZOkK)
However many exemptions you currently take, double them at a minimum.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (oO+cT)
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That was my point, Jack, intent simply describes the action itself, not the outcome.
Posted by: Roland Deschaines at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (ait/4)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (tf9Ne)
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"The idea of the rule of law today is a lie."
Best line in the article. Scary and sad at the same time.
Best line in the article. Scary and sad at the same time.
Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (/He1L)
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So have the FBI walked out yet like we were told they would do?.... I didn't think so...
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (O2RFr)
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52
It's a good start, but it kind of fails to recognize how much "conservative" fingerprints are all over this mess, too.
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Kinda why the IRS investigation went no where; that was over 1000 days ago that was revealed.
It's a good start, but it kind of fails to recognize how much "conservative" fingerprints are all over this mess, too.
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Kinda why the IRS investigation went no where; that was over 1000 days ago that was revealed.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (77emZ)
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Did you just wake from an 8 year nap?
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:16 PM (oO+cT)
you say that like it would be a bad thing? LOL
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:16 PM (oO+cT)
you say that like it would be a bad thing? LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (zp+j1)
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And I think the GOP should start impeaching officials and/or defunding departments.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (gmeXX)
Did you just wake from an 8 year nap?
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Been saying it on this site for 8 years ... or since I started posting, whichever came last.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (gmeXX)
Did you just wake from an 8 year nap?
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Been saying it on this site for 8 years ... or since I started posting, whichever came last.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (gmeXX)
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He cares less than even the Clintons do about the appearance of impropriety.
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (kEFn+)
If that was so and he was a lawbreaker, you can bet your ass that the NY AG would have had him in prison long ago.
Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:09 PM (kEFn+)
If that was so and he was a lawbreaker, you can bet your ass that the NY AG would have had him in prison long ago.
Posted by: CaraN at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (PVXZe)
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (wmxwV)
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111
They must have pictures of Comey naked with small farm animals.
.................
But he did not "intend" to rape that pig.
They must have pictures of Comey naked with small farm animals.
.................
But he did not "intend" to rape that pig.
Posted by: wth at July 05, 2016 01:18 PM (HgMAr)
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So has Hillary spoken yet?
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:18 PM (O2RFr)
169
Less than 1 million people who refused to pay their taxes would choke the court system to a dead halt.
But, are you going to be first?
Who is the John Brown?
No?
No. We're all going to get up tomorrow and go back to work again. Just like today and every day after.
Because we are no where near the "intolerable" stage.
We all admit we are losing ground, faster and more every day.
But--you can't leave your home, your spouse, your children, your steady 3 hots a day.
We are slaves without even the imagination of freedom left to look toward . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 05, 2016 01:11 PM (77emZ)
All true. No plan of action is without sacrifice. So we each have to ask ourselves: What am I prepared to give up?
The house? The job? The good name I created within my profession?
My kids?
Any one "no" there is enough to stop almost any type of civil action we can devise. It's frustrating, but I'm not going to pretend I'm more pure than others. I'm not yet ready.
But, are you going to be first?
Who is the John Brown?
No?
No. We're all going to get up tomorrow and go back to work again. Just like today and every day after.
Because we are no where near the "intolerable" stage.
We all admit we are losing ground, faster and more every day.
But--you can't leave your home, your spouse, your children, your steady 3 hots a day.
We are slaves without even the imagination of freedom left to look toward . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 05, 2016 01:11 PM (77emZ)
All true. No plan of action is without sacrifice. So we each have to ask ourselves: What am I prepared to give up?
The house? The job? The good name I created within my profession?
My kids?
Any one "no" there is enough to stop almost any type of civil action we can devise. It's frustrating, but I'm not going to pretend I'm more pure than others. I'm not yet ready.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 01:18 PM (TOk1P)
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Comey really blew this one. The occasion totally called for a saucy little tea length number and one, maybe two strands of freshwater pearls with matching earrings.
Posted by: J. Edgar Hoover at July 05, 2016 01:19 PM (8ZskC)
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>>That was my point, Jack, intent simply describes the action itself, not the outcome.
Gotcha. I think Comey brought up the "no intent" thing to throw people off as in there was no intent to break the law and that was the reason for not recommending charges.
It's totally irrelevant. He was just searching for ways to justify his decision.
Gotcha. I think Comey brought up the "no intent" thing to throw people off as in there was no intent to break the law and that was the reason for not recommending charges.
It's totally irrelevant. He was just searching for ways to justify his decision.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 01:19 PM (/tuJf)
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At this point they should just drop the Trump University thing.
I mean there was no intent involved............
I mean there was no intent involved............
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:19 PM (xVgrA)
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@94: "Nobody in the FBI will resign, their job is o protect oligarchs"
There's a reason that the saying: "If you take the King's shilling, you're the King's man" (and its assorted variations) exists, you know.
There's a reason that the saying: "If you take the King's shilling, you're the King's man" (and its assorted variations) exists, you know.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 05, 2016 01:19 PM (rznWS)
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167 111
They must have pictures of Comey naked with small farm animals.
.................
But he did not "intend" to rape that pig.
Posted by: wth at July 05, 2016 01:18 PM (HgMAr)
Worse. He did it of his own free will because he's part of the corruption.
They must have pictures of Comey naked with small farm animals.
.................
But he did not "intend" to rape that pig.
Posted by: wth at July 05, 2016 01:18 PM (HgMAr)
Worse. He did it of his own free will because he's part of the corruption.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:19 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 05, 2016 01:20 PM (wmxwV)
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As I remember it was me spitting blood all over the dashboard! LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (zp+j1)
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Bleeding gums? You should have a dentist look at that.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (zp+j1)
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Bleeding gums? You should have a dentist look at that.
Posted by: bluebell at July 05, 2016 01:20 PM (805dc)
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The only way things change is with a rebellion.
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Indeed. I would prefer the elimination of the plutocracy and other "elites" to be given a go prior to trying to eliminate the state itself.
(You can protect children riding poorly-driven school buses by either eliminating school buses or replacing the poor drivers.)
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Indeed. I would prefer the elimination of the plutocracy and other "elites" to be given a go prior to trying to eliminate the state itself.
(You can protect children riding poorly-driven school buses by either eliminating school buses or replacing the poor drivers.)
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 01:20 PM (NUqwG)
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Ryan released a one paragraph waffle, McConnell has pulled back in his shell and said nada, and except for literally one or two people, the other nearly 300 GOP elected officials in DC have rigged for silent running.
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*shakes head while laughing*
But, of course.
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*shakes head while laughing*
But, of course.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at July 05, 2016 01:20 PM (+FSld)
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We are slaves without even the imagination of freedom left to look toward . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 05, 2016 01:11 PM (77emZ)
I am Cornholius.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 05, 2016 01:11 PM (77emZ)
I am Cornholius.
Posted by: Cornholius at July 05, 2016 01:20 PM (8ZskC)
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176 As I remember it was me spitting blood all over the dashboard! LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (zp+j1)
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Bleeding gums? You should have a dentist look at that.
Posted by: bluebell at July 05, 2016 01:20 PM (805dc)
Regular flossing would have prevented that.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (zp+j1)
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Bleeding gums? You should have a dentist look at that.
Posted by: bluebell at July 05, 2016 01:20 PM (805dc)
Regular flossing would have prevented that.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2016 01:20 PM (0mRoj)
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Nevertrumpers have no principles
You are liars
You are frauds.
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Whatever makes you sleep at night. I sleep fine.
You are liars
You are frauds.
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Whatever makes you sleep at night. I sleep fine.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:21 PM (gmeXX)
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The real meaning of Matthew 22:15-21, the render unto Caesar passage, is what made Christianity anathema to the Roman Empire. We should give Caesar nothing of real selves. We have obligations of charity
and justice to the people with whom we share the world, but none to those who claim to rule over this world when they are not just leaders.
and justice to the people with whom we share the world, but none to those who claim to rule over this world when they are not just leaders.
Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at July 05, 2016 01:21 PM (AbQFZ)
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The government has the power of the gun and legal intimidation.
Exactly. Schlicter's piece is useless. All he's saying is, "hey, run the stop sign at 3 AM if you don't see a cop" or, "hey, cheat on your taxes if you think you can" or "pay under the table when you can."
All little stuff that only irritates the powers that be; nothing that directly stops them in their tracks.
I know Patrick Henry. Kurt Schlicter is no Patrick Henry.
The government has the power of the gun and legal intimidation.
Exactly. Schlicter's piece is useless. All he's saying is, "hey, run the stop sign at 3 AM if you don't see a cop" or, "hey, cheat on your taxes if you think you can" or "pay under the table when you can."
All little stuff that only irritates the powers that be; nothing that directly stops them in their tracks.
I know Patrick Henry. Kurt Schlicter is no Patrick Henry.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2016 01:21 PM (X6fMO)
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"CN has largest standing army in the world at 1M, US has about 100M armed citizens, making direct assault of USA impossible"
From the twitter link.
Someone needs to point out that about 1/2 or so, of that 100M armed citizens are on the side of China, whether they know it or not.
From the twitter link.
Someone needs to point out that about 1/2 or so, of that 100M armed citizens are on the side of China, whether they know it or not.
Posted by: Hearld Coatholder at July 05, 2016 01:21 PM (Wo6be)
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But, are you going to be first?
Who is the John Brown?
No?
No. We're all going to get up tomorrow and go back to work again. Just like today and every day after.
Because we are no where near the "intolerable" stage.
We all admit we are losing ground, faster and more every day.
But--you can't leave your home, your spouse, your children, your steady 3 hots a day.
We are slaves without even the imagination of freedom left to look toward . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 05, 2016 01:11 PM (77emZ)
I am living proof you are wrong.
And I'm sure there are others already.
Who is the John Brown?
No?
No. We're all going to get up tomorrow and go back to work again. Just like today and every day after.
Because we are no where near the "intolerable" stage.
We all admit we are losing ground, faster and more every day.
But--you can't leave your home, your spouse, your children, your steady 3 hots a day.
We are slaves without even the imagination of freedom left to look toward . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 05, 2016 01:11 PM (77emZ)
I am living proof you are wrong.
And I'm sure there are others already.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:21 PM (oO+cT)
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Yesh Atid chairman Yair Lapid lambasted the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees on Tuesday, following the organizations condemnation of the recent demolitions of the homes of two terrorists responsible for a deadly stabbing attack last December.
UNRWA Spokesperson Chris Gunness harshly criticized our decision to demolish the homes of two terrorists who last December stabbed two Israelis to death at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, Lapid wrote on Facebook.
I have one question for Mr. Gunness: Whats it got to do with you? Actually I have another one: Who asked you?
UNRWA is the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees. Its role is clear. It is meant to help Palestinians find work and if they cant find work then to assist them with food and medication.
Thats it. It doesnt have another role. There is nothing in UNRWAs mandate which justifies intervention in security matters. There is nothing in Chris Gunness past which qualifies him to give us advice on how to protect ourselves.
You tell em!
UNRWA Spokesperson Chris Gunness harshly criticized our decision to demolish the homes of two terrorists who last December stabbed two Israelis to death at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, Lapid wrote on Facebook.
I have one question for Mr. Gunness: Whats it got to do with you? Actually I have another one: Who asked you?
UNRWA is the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees. Its role is clear. It is meant to help Palestinians find work and if they cant find work then to assist them with food and medication.
Thats it. It doesnt have another role. There is nothing in UNRWAs mandate which justifies intervention in security matters. There is nothing in Chris Gunness past which qualifies him to give us advice on how to protect ourselves.
You tell em!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:21 PM (zp+j1)
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Have to attend a wedding in up-state NY in August. Husband's nephew is getting married.
So, we'll be amidst a shit-ton of Hillary! supporters. I may "unintentionally" let my feelings be known.
I've had it. They can all DIAF.
So, we'll be amidst a shit-ton of Hillary! supporters. I may "unintentionally" let my feelings be known.
I've had it. They can all DIAF.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (1ZOkK)
188
You're not my countryman SH
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (wmxwV)
189
Oh, someone with a Capital Hill parking sticker finally chimed in:
Sen. James Lankford 8 minutes ago
This is a truly alarming precedent. No one should be above the law.
Oh, someone with a Capital Hill parking sticker finally chimed in:
Sen. James Lankford 8 minutes ago
This is a truly alarming precedent. No one should be above the law.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (kdS6q)
190
Ah, OK, so this convinces me that the NeverTrump people have been right all along, that Hillary is just a peachy keen gal, that "taking a gamble" on some unknown quantity like Trump is so much worse than sticking with the fascist oligarchs who lord over us with contempt and open mockery.
Yeah. That was sarcastic.
There's really nothing left to say.
From my vantage point, Trump isn't unhinged enough, his cannon is insufficiently loose.
We need a drunken ape in the White House armed with an aluminum baseball bat and a flamethrower. That's the only solution at this point. And Trump is as close as we're going to get.
Yeah. That was sarcastic.
There's really nothing left to say.
From my vantage point, Trump isn't unhinged enough, his cannon is insufficiently loose.
We need a drunken ape in the White House armed with an aluminum baseball bat and a flamethrower. That's the only solution at this point. And Trump is as close as we're going to get.
Posted by: zombie at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (jBuUi)
191
164 And I think the GOP should start impeaching officials and/or defunding departments.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (gmeXX)
Did you just wake from an 8 year nap?
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Been saying it on this site for 8 years ... or since I started posting, whichever came last.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (gmeXX)
Really? The GOP? You mean the GOP that passes omnibus spending bills, freaks out over a government shutdown and grows the government even more?
That GOP? Ok. Got it.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (gmeXX)
Did you just wake from an 8 year nap?
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Been saying it on this site for 8 years ... or since I started posting, whichever came last.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (gmeXX)
Really? The GOP? You mean the GOP that passes omnibus spending bills, freaks out over a government shutdown and grows the government even more?
That GOP? Ok. Got it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (p4UlV)
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You're not my countryman SH
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All because I don't support your leader? You should probably rethink things.
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All because I don't support your leader? You should probably rethink things.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:23 PM (gmeXX)
193
The clear and self-evident breakdown of the Rule of Law means that there is no legitimate government in the United States of America. Texas joined the USA by treaty. Treaties with nonexistent entities are unenforceable.
TEXIT! TEXIT NOW!
TEXIT! TEXIT NOW!
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:23 PM (HalrA)
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Worse. He did it of his own free will because he's part of the corruption.
I don't know. He may not be corrupt, he may just be weak and afraid.
I don't know. He may not be corrupt, he may just be weak and afraid.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:23 PM (39g3+)
195
Been saying it on this site for 8 years ... or since I started posting, whichever came last.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (gmeXX)
Really? The GOP? You mean the GOP that passes omnibus spending bills, freaks out over a government shutdown and grows the government even more?
That GOP? Ok. Got it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (p4UlV)
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I can be just as critical of the GOP as you without deciding to vote for Trump. The two are not mutual - though you think they are.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:17 PM (gmeXX)
Really? The GOP? You mean the GOP that passes omnibus spending bills, freaks out over a government shutdown and grows the government even more?
That GOP? Ok. Got it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (p4UlV)
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I can be just as critical of the GOP as you without deciding to vote for Trump. The two are not mutual - though you think they are.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:24 PM (gmeXX)
196
Nevertrumpers have no principles
You are liars
You are frauds.
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Whatever makes you sleep at night. I sleep fine.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:21 PM (gmeXX)
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I believe that NeverTrumpers are highly principled and neither liars nor frauds. However, given their principles, they are useless and evil.
You are liars
You are frauds.
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Whatever makes you sleep at night. I sleep fine.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:21 PM (gmeXX)
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I believe that NeverTrumpers are highly principled and neither liars nor frauds. However, given their principles, they are useless and evil.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 01:24 PM (NUqwG)
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Amanda Marcotte
Not defending Clinton here. Just saying anyone who has cursed out loud when their password expires can probably understand her mistake.
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Wow.
Not defending Clinton here. Just saying anyone who has cursed out loud when their password expires can probably understand her mistake.
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Wow.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 05, 2016 01:24 PM (/CXhS)
198
This decision this AM and the reason for it AND Roberts decision on Fredocare are the 2 biggest blows to freedom in the past 8 years
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:24 PM (zp+j1)
199
@105: "She must not be allowed to win. Period. Full stop."
Ok, taking that at face value -- a very serious question -- how do you answer Malone's question from The Untouchables?
Malone: You
see, what I'm saying is, what are you prepared to do?
Ness: Anything within the law.
Malone: And *then* what are you prepared to do?
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Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 05, 2016 01:24 PM (rznWS)
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The rule of law is dead,
Long live the rule of man!
Long live the rule of man!
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (xVgrA)
201
We need a drunken ape in the White House armed with
an aluminum baseball bat and a flamethrower. That's the only solution at
this point. And Trump is as close as we're going to get.
Posted by: zombie at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (jBuUi)
That is pure poetry. Sadly, Trump doesn't drink.
an aluminum baseball bat and a flamethrower. That's the only solution at
this point. And Trump is as close as we're going to get.
Posted by: zombie at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (jBuUi)
That is pure poetry. Sadly, Trump doesn't drink.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (1ZOkK)
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No
It's more than that. You don't oppose tyranny. You work to cause verifiable harm to my family. You're an enemy. It's quite simple.
It's more than that. You don't oppose tyranny. You work to cause verifiable harm to my family. You're an enemy. It's quite simple.
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (wmxwV)
203
Withholding makes tax revolts difficult.
Posted by: Lauren...TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (JQsZt)
Increase exemptions to 10.
Problem solved.
Posted by: Lauren...TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (JQsZt)
Increase exemptions to 10.
Problem solved.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (oO+cT)
204
"I feel like being "extremely careless" with my taxes from now on. "
Be careful about being careless. All the furies of the government will rain down on you if you somehow get caught up in the system, even if you really haven't done anything wrong. For all but a few of the elite left, they work overtime to crush as opposed to putting their energy and power into figuring out how to let them slide.
Be careful about being careless. All the furies of the government will rain down on you if you somehow get caught up in the system, even if you really haven't done anything wrong. For all but a few of the elite left, they work overtime to crush as opposed to putting their energy and power into figuring out how to let them slide.
Posted by: RM at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (U3LtS)
205
I have a jury summons I won't be responding to. I've already thrown away my 2nd and 3rd notice on the Census.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (Vi3+d)
206
Here comes the barrel...
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (O2RFr)
207
Ryan released a one paragraph waffle, McConnell has pulled back in his shell and said nada, and except for literally one or two people, the other nearly 300 GOP elected officials in DC have rigged for silent running.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
We had a fucking clown car this year, and we wound up with Trump.
This is why. The miserable fuckers would rather rape a kitten than stand against the establishment. So a self funding celebrity with high name recognition walked in and walked away with it.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
We had a fucking clown car this year, and we wound up with Trump.
This is why. The miserable fuckers would rather rape a kitten than stand against the establishment. So a self funding celebrity with high name recognition walked in and walked away with it.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (326rv)
208
However, given their principles, they are useless and evil.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 01:24 PM (NUqwG)
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You have a warped sense of evil.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 01:24 PM (NUqwG)
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You have a warped sense of evil.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (gmeXX)
209
Friends , morons and countrymen--you have been betrayed publicly---comically and contemptuously---by the alleged 'Leader' of the FBI.
Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (713RE)
210
187
Have to attend a wedding in up-state NY in August. Husband's nephew is getting married.
So, we'll be amidst a shit-ton of Hillary! supporters. I may "unintentionally" let my feelings be known.
I've had it. They can all DIAF.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (1ZOkK)
Depending on your definition of "upstate", unless you are in Albany County you may find yourself in mostly Trump country
Have to attend a wedding in up-state NY in August. Husband's nephew is getting married.
So, we'll be amidst a shit-ton of Hillary! supporters. I may "unintentionally" let my feelings be known.
I've had it. They can all DIAF.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (1ZOkK)
Depending on your definition of "upstate", unless you are in Albany County you may find yourself in mostly Trump country
Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed - Sorry Ben, we f*cked up at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (jxbfJ)
211
Sulla 2016.
***
Sulla and Marius were both pretty serious men - and the former kind of brought back the Republic. Clinton, like Obama, are more reminiscent of Elagabalus and Nero...
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Sulla and Marius were both pretty serious men - and the former kind of brought back the Republic. Clinton, like Obama, are more reminiscent of Elagabalus and Nero...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (X7E8f)
212
That's a barrelin'.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2016 01:26 PM (0mRoj)
213
Since they came on the national scene, the Clintons have had to push fundamental concepts of ethics and morals into the ditch to maintain their political viability. Our decline on these matters have been unprecedented in our history, all to preserve the power of these debased criminals.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2016 01:26 PM (+wjl1)
214
Fuck this place I want out.
Posted by: sven10077
Suggestion:
Amerexit. The 50 states should secede from Washington DC.
Heck, I'll even give 'em Guam and Puerto Rico, so the DCers can have some place to work on their tans.
Posted by: sven10077
Suggestion:
Amerexit. The 50 states should secede from Washington DC.
Heck, I'll even give 'em Guam and Puerto Rico, so the DCers can have some place to work on their tans.
Posted by: zombie at July 05, 2016 01:26 PM (jBuUi)
215
The rule of the barrel must be followed even if the rule of is not.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 05, 2016 01:26 PM (Vi3+d)
216
Quoted in the last thread, but just let this sink in:
"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences."
Not even extemporaneous remarks. This was in the written, prepared statement up on FBI.gov. Laws are for little people, on record.
Phrased more honestly: We cannot cover up or deny that Hillary broke this law; we intend to enforce this law against its breakers; we do not question the validity or propriety of this law; but you are not Hillary and Hillary is not you, so we recommend no consequence in the case regarding Hillary whereas we would recommend consequences in the case regarding you.
"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences."
Not even extemporaneous remarks. This was in the written, prepared statement up on FBI.gov. Laws are for little people, on record.
Phrased more honestly: We cannot cover up or deny that Hillary broke this law; we intend to enforce this law against its breakers; we do not question the validity or propriety of this law; but you are not Hillary and Hillary is not you, so we recommend no consequence in the case regarding Hillary whereas we would recommend consequences in the case regarding you.
Posted by: 0302 at July 05, 2016 01:26 PM (wx6iv)
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I believe that NeverTrumpers are highly principled and neither liars nor frauds.
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As are Communists. Get your head straight
I believe that NeverTrumpers are highly principled and neither liars nor frauds.
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As are Communists. Get your head straight
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 05, 2016 01:26 PM (wmxwV)
218
#NeverTrump update from Mr Halloween Prank:
Ben Howe*
I never expected her to be indicted. I also dont expect her to stop being above the law. I just find her less scary than Trump. Sorry.
*Red State EiC.
#ImWithHer
#NeverTrump update from Mr Halloween Prank:
Ben Howe*
I never expected her to be indicted. I also dont expect her to stop being above the law. I just find her less scary than Trump. Sorry.
*Red State EiC.
#ImWithHer
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2016 01:26 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: FBI Director James Comey Cochran at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (H9MG5)
220
The barrel is no longer needed. We can't show he intended to do that...
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (xVgrA)
221
"78
Honestly, if conservatives that wanted to end this nonsense just stopped
paying their taxes this government would fall apart pretty quickly.
I'm amazed how many people will talk about stockpiling weapons,
about secession, etc and not the one thing that could destroy the US
very quickly.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 12:51 PM (Jzg4b)
That's something I've advocated all along.
Tens of millions quit sending money to Leviathan. Make them come after all of us. They can't.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:04 PM (oO+cT)"
Look at Quantitative Easing 1, 2, 3 and 4 ever and tell me that you think that this government is going to be slowed down one iota by not having enough money. They will just print more. And they will come to your house and throw you in prison.
Honestly, if conservatives that wanted to end this nonsense just stopped
paying their taxes this government would fall apart pretty quickly.
I'm amazed how many people will talk about stockpiling weapons,
about secession, etc and not the one thing that could destroy the US
very quickly.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 12:51 PM (Jzg4b)
That's something I've advocated all along.
Tens of millions quit sending money to Leviathan. Make them come after all of us. They can't.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:04 PM (oO+cT)"
Look at Quantitative Easing 1, 2, 3 and 4 ever and tell me that you think that this government is going to be slowed down one iota by not having enough money. They will just print more. And they will come to your house and throw you in prison.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (QHgTq)
222
Depending on your definition of "upstate", unless you are in Albany County you may find yourself in mostly Trump country
Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed - Sorry Ben, we f*cked up at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (jxbfJ)
Husband's family. They're Hillbots.
Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed - Sorry Ben, we f*cked up at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (jxbfJ)
Husband's family. They're Hillbots.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (1ZOkK)
223
Never learned to fake it
Even though you want me to
Don't belong in your world
Won't be coming back no more
Don't want you near me
Don't need you in my life
Leave it all behind me
I close my eyes and
It's all gone
Now I'm on the outside
My reflection on your wall
Bite the hand that feeds me
In order to stay alive
You could never hurt me
The way you hurt yourself
Nothing lasts forever
I close my eyes, and you are gone
You are gone
You are gone
I am what you made me
Don't put the blame on me
You are safe as always
In your world of make believe
I owe you nothing
I gave it all away
Won't see me crawling
Seems like you have lost control
You could never hurt me
The way you hurt yourself
Nothing lasts forever
I close my eyes, and you are gone
You are gone
You are gone
You are gone
I owe you nothing
You are gone
I owe you nothing
Now I'm on the outside
My reflection on your wall
Bite the hand that feeds me
In order to stay alive
You could never hurt me
The way you hurt yourself
Nothing lasts forever
I close my eyes, and you are gone
You are gone
You are gone
You are gone
You are gone
You are gone
I owe you nothing
I owe you nothing
I owe you nothing
I owe you nothing
Even though you want me to
Don't belong in your world
Won't be coming back no more
Don't want you near me
Don't need you in my life
Leave it all behind me
I close my eyes and
It's all gone
Now I'm on the outside
My reflection on your wall
Bite the hand that feeds me
In order to stay alive
You could never hurt me
The way you hurt yourself
Nothing lasts forever
I close my eyes, and you are gone
You are gone
You are gone
I am what you made me
Don't put the blame on me
You are safe as always
In your world of make believe
I owe you nothing
I gave it all away
Won't see me crawling
Seems like you have lost control
You could never hurt me
The way you hurt yourself
Nothing lasts forever
I close my eyes, and you are gone
You are gone
You are gone
You are gone
I owe you nothing
You are gone
I owe you nothing
Now I'm on the outside
My reflection on your wall
Bite the hand that feeds me
In order to stay alive
You could never hurt me
The way you hurt yourself
Nothing lasts forever
I close my eyes, and you are gone
You are gone
You are gone
You are gone
You are gone
You are gone
I owe you nothing
I owe you nothing
I owe you nothing
I owe you nothing
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (gmjUl)
224
Amanda Marcotte
Not defending Clinton here. Just saying anyone who has cursed out loud when their password expires can probably understand her mistake.
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But I'm defending her. And i still want the Duke lacrosse team dead.
Not defending Clinton here. Just saying anyone who has cursed out loud when their password expires can probably understand her mistake.
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But I'm defending her. And i still want the Duke lacrosse team dead.
Posted by: aMANda Marredcoat at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (326rv)
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You don't oppose tyranny.
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I oppose it in all forms. You seem to think that its not tyranny so long as you are running against Hillary.
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I oppose it in all forms. You seem to think that its not tyranny so long as you are running against Hillary.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (gmeXX)
226
This is a truly alarming precedent. No one should be above the law.
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Wow - I'm sure Hillary is quaking in her boots now!
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Wow - I'm sure Hillary is quaking in her boots now!
Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (X7E8f)
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Two-fer-Tuesday Double Shot:
Ben Howe 33 seconds ago
Yes, Trump's best feature is that he's not Hillary. Unfortunately Hillary's best feature is that she's not Trump, which is more impressive.
Two-fer-Tuesday Double Shot:
Ben Howe 33 seconds ago
Yes, Trump's best feature is that he's not Hillary. Unfortunately Hillary's best feature is that she's not Trump, which is more impressive.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2016 01:28 PM (kdS6q)
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If Trump actually stood a chance, this back and forth might be worthwhile. Please, do you honestly believe they will let Trump within ten miles of the White House? Trump will never overcome all the forces arrayed against him. Even the GOPe has abandoned him, along with their donors. You think Trump is going to empty his checkbook to fight Hillary and her Citibank donors? You think Trump will be heard above the constant interviews with La Raza and CAIR? The constant barge of anti-Semitic and racist association the media will portray?
Trump was fucked from the get go. He's only there because they don't care so much about fixing the primaries because they control the general.
Trump was fucked from the get go. He's only there because they don't care so much about fixing the primaries because they control the general.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 05, 2016 01:28 PM (2PHKP)
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>>I don't know. He may not be corrupt, he may just be weak and afraid.
There is another option. He may be very calculating.
If he had come out and recommended charges the election would likely be over. Sure, they could try and jam Biden into the role but as much as the msm loves to paint him as lovable Uncle Joe he blows on the campaign trail. And Bernie would be a disaster. He might not have wanted to be the guy that threw a giant monkey wrench into the process.
He was also probably correct that no jury is going to convict her on this. Clintons never get convicted.
But he really hammered her politically. Being called reckless and careless with national security information by the head of the FBI is pretty damning. Hopefully, Trump uses this in a smart way.
There is another option. He may be very calculating.
If he had come out and recommended charges the election would likely be over. Sure, they could try and jam Biden into the role but as much as the msm loves to paint him as lovable Uncle Joe he blows on the campaign trail. And Bernie would be a disaster. He might not have wanted to be the guy that threw a giant monkey wrench into the process.
He was also probably correct that no jury is going to convict her on this. Clintons never get convicted.
But he really hammered her politically. Being called reckless and careless with national security information by the head of the FBI is pretty damning. Hopefully, Trump uses this in a smart way.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 01:28 PM (/tuJf)
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197 Amanda Marcotte
Not defending Clinton here. Just saying anyone who has cursed out loud when their password expires can probably understand her mistake.
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Wow.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 05, 2016 01:24 PM (/CXhS)
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What the heck does that even mean? That Hillary had to have her own server because she couldn't remember her password? And does it mean she didn't even password protect her email at all?
Not defending Clinton here. Just saying anyone who has cursed out loud when their password expires can probably understand her mistake.
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Wow.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 05, 2016 01:24 PM (/CXhS)
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What the heck does that even mean? That Hillary had to have her own server because she couldn't remember her password? And does it mean she didn't even password protect her email at all?
Posted by: bluebell at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (805dc)
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The UK has this system where attys can sue soldiers for their conduct in war zones. It's bullshit:
http://goo.gl/l9lUV6
The UK has this system where attys can sue soldiers for their conduct in war zones. It's bullshit:
http://goo.gl/l9lUV6
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (iQIUe)
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Ben Howe 33 seconds ago
Yes, Trump's best feature is that
he's not Hillary. Unfortunately Hillary's best feature is that she's not
Trump, which is more impressive.
Fuck him in particular.
I've nearly used up all my fucks today.
Ben Howe 33 seconds ago
Yes, Trump's best feature is that
he's not Hillary. Unfortunately Hillary's best feature is that she's not
Trump, which is more impressive.
Fuck him in particular.
I've nearly used up all my fucks today.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (1ZOkK)
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@123: "No. We're all going to get up tomorrow and go back to work again. Just like today and every day after.
Because we are no where near the "intolerable" stage.
We all admit we are losing ground, faster and more every day.
But--you can't leave your home, your spouse, your children, your steady 3 hots a day.
We are slaves without even the imagination of freedom left to look toward . . ."
Yeah, that whole "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor" thing doesn't get many takers these days. Then again, it didn't get many takers back then, either. We just got lucky that the ones who did take it, backed it to the hilt.
Because we are no where near the "intolerable" stage.
We all admit we are losing ground, faster and more every day.
But--you can't leave your home, your spouse, your children, your steady 3 hots a day.
We are slaves without even the imagination of freedom left to look toward . . ."
Yeah, that whole "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor" thing doesn't get many takers these days. Then again, it didn't get many takers back then, either. We just got lucky that the ones who did take it, backed it to the hilt.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (rznWS)
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We need a drunken ape in the White House armed with an aluminum baseball bat and a flamethrower.
Posted by: zombie at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (jBuUi)
Sooo... Michelle Obama for President???
(hope that don't get me banned!... LOL)...
Posted by: zombie at July 05, 2016 01:22 PM (jBuUi)
Sooo... Michelle Obama for President???
(hope that don't get me banned!... LOL)...
Posted by: Don Q. at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (qf6WZ)
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Speaker Paul Ryan: FBIs Announcement On Hillary Clinton Email Case, Defies Explanation
Weasel Zippers
For what it is worth
Weasel Zippers
For what it is worth
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (zp+j1)
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Wow - I'm sure Hillary is quaking in her boots now!
Posted by: 18-1
Imagine the sound of her cackling laugh today.
Wow - I'm sure Hillary is quaking in her boots now!
Posted by: 18-1
Imagine the sound of her cackling laugh today.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (IqV8l)
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I stopped giving a fuck. And one of the things I no longer do is treat others with respect. I don't hold doors for people, I don't let people in front of me in traffic. Things like that. Society can go fuck itself.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:30 PM (0LHZx)
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As I remember it was me spitting blood all over the dashboard! LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (zp+j1)
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Bleeding gums? You should have a dentist look at that.
Posted by: bluebell at July 05, 2016 01:20 PM (805dc)
Ok now I finally laughed today.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:12 PM (zp+j1)
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Bleeding gums? You should have a dentist look at that.
Posted by: bluebell at July 05, 2016 01:20 PM (805dc)
Ok now I finally laughed today.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:30 PM (oO+cT)
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Wow,Ben Gowe is just all in for Hillary.What a turd that guy turned out to be.
Posted by: steevy at July 05, 2016 01:30 PM (B48dK)
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I just find her less scary than Trump. Sorry.
There is a small subsection of the population that thinks Trump is Hitler. Seriously, they think he's a monstrous, murderous tyrant in waiting. They think he is a dictator who will create monuments out of the skulls of Americans while bathing in the blood of innocents.
How they think he'd do that with a congress and press hostile to him, and where they get that from given his total lack of any such inclinations or behavior in his life, I can only guess.
The man wrote a book about his political ideas, its true, just like Hitler. Except his isn't about paranoiac fantasies and blaming Jews for everything. His is about how America needs to change for the better with some great ideas and some stupid ones in it.
There is a small subsection of the population that thinks Trump is Hitler. Seriously, they think he's a monstrous, murderous tyrant in waiting. They think he is a dictator who will create monuments out of the skulls of Americans while bathing in the blood of innocents.
How they think he'd do that with a congress and press hostile to him, and where they get that from given his total lack of any such inclinations or behavior in his life, I can only guess.
The man wrote a book about his political ideas, its true, just like Hitler. Except his isn't about paranoiac fantasies and blaming Jews for everything. His is about how America needs to change for the better with some great ideas and some stupid ones in it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:30 PM (39g3+)
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I've nearly used up all my fucks today.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM
Save some, you're gonna need them for the coming days...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM
Save some, you're gonna need them for the coming days...
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:30 PM (O2RFr)
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Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 05, 2016 01:24 PM (rznWS)
Yay!!! Our first Barrel participant of the day.
Yay!!! Our first Barrel participant of the day.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:31 PM (oO+cT)
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235 Speaker Paul Ryan: FBIs Announcement On Hillary Clinton Email Case, Defies Explanation
Weasel Zippers
For what it is worth
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (zp+j1)
____
It's worth absolutely $0
Weasel Zippers
For what it is worth
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (zp+j1)
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It's worth absolutely $0
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:31 PM (0LHZx)
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Husband's family. They're Hillbots.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (1ZOkK)
My condolences.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (1ZOkK)
My condolences.
Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed - Sorry Ben, we f*cked up at July 05, 2016 01:31 PM (jxbfJ)
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You don't tug on superman's cape
You don't spit into the chill
You don't pull the mask off that old lone ranger
And you don't mess around with Hill
You don't spit into the chill
You don't pull the mask off that old lone ranger
And you don't mess around with Hill
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 05, 2016 01:31 PM (aXzL9)
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I'll bet Hill and Barky are having a few laffs on AF1.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:32 PM (1ZOkK)
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Apparently the rules are for suckers so vote and vote again and again and again this November.
Posted by: Mr. feverhead at July 05, 2016 01:32 PM (j1Wvr)
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I'm going to start a surfing gang of adrenaline junkies. Using the excessive carelessness standard we will Rob banks while wearing masks of former presidents.
Because YOLO!
Because YOLO!
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 05, 2016 01:32 PM (nhgiS)
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"Depending on your definition of "upstate", unless you are in Albany County you may find yourself in mostly Trump country
Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed - Sorry Ben, we f*cked up at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (jxbfJ)"
Mario Cuomo fundamentally transformed New York by driving out most of the jobs and the people who wanted to work for a living at something other than a government job. There are not many folks left north of the Catskills who don't collect government checks.
Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed - Sorry Ben, we f*cked up at July 05, 2016 01:25 PM (jxbfJ)"
Mario Cuomo fundamentally transformed New York by driving out most of the jobs and the people who wanted to work for a living at something other than a government job. There are not many folks left north of the Catskills who don't collect government checks.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 05, 2016 01:32 PM (QHgTq)
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Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 01:28 PM (/tuJf)
I don't disagree except he went a step farther and basically said he would pursue prosecution of others who wiuld do the same thing as Clinton did. That would have been fine if he had followed up with a resignation announcement.
I don't disagree except he went a step farther and basically said he would pursue prosecution of others who wiuld do the same thing as Clinton did. That would have been fine if he had followed up with a resignation announcement.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 05, 2016 01:32 PM (Vi3+d)
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So according to Comey, Charlie Manson was a little reckless back in the 60's. Why is he in prison then.
Free the reckless.
My God we're screwed.
Free the reckless.
My God we're screwed.
Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at July 05, 2016 01:32 PM (/He1L)
252
Is it just me or is this water getting warm?
Posted by: Frog in a pan at July 05, 2016 01:33 PM (TnUKj)
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Suggestion:
Amerexit. The 50 states should secede from Washington DC.
Heck, I'll even give 'em Guam and Puerto Rico, so the DCers can have some place to work on their tans.
Posted by: zombie at July 05, 2016 01:26 PM (jBuUi)
Eh I mean we need to dump a few states too but we have at this point completely divided into liberal tribes, conservative tribes, and an ultra-selfish elite/Beltway tribe, which are irreconcilable and now frustrate one another at every turn.
DC is disgusting though. So much money and pomp had at the expense of taxpayers whom those on the inside ridicule. There is nothing resembling public service in the higher circles of government. It is entirely selfish, narcissistic power brokering, and the fact that everyone comes out the other end as a member of the 0.1% should have already resulted in demands for reform.
I really don't care about this election when I think hard about it. We've already tipped whether we want to admit it or not.
Amerexit. The 50 states should secede from Washington DC.
Heck, I'll even give 'em Guam and Puerto Rico, so the DCers can have some place to work on their tans.
Posted by: zombie at July 05, 2016 01:26 PM (jBuUi)
Eh I mean we need to dump a few states too but we have at this point completely divided into liberal tribes, conservative tribes, and an ultra-selfish elite/Beltway tribe, which are irreconcilable and now frustrate one another at every turn.
DC is disgusting though. So much money and pomp had at the expense of taxpayers whom those on the inside ridicule. There is nothing resembling public service in the higher circles of government. It is entirely selfish, narcissistic power brokering, and the fact that everyone comes out the other end as a member of the 0.1% should have already resulted in demands for reform.
I really don't care about this election when I think hard about it. We've already tipped whether we want to admit it or not.
Posted by: 0302 at July 05, 2016 01:33 PM (wx6iv)
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Some gunshop should hold a 'Hillary's not in jail sale'
Posted by: GregV61 at July 05, 2016 01:33 PM (H0lcY)
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The barrel is no longer needed. We can't show he intended to do that...
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I suspect that he did intend to do that. His nic has been around loog enough to know the results of cut and past in IE.
However, in my case, since so many of my typos, and wrong word choices are accidential and not intentional, you will knever know when one of those apparently unintentionals typos was actually deliberate.
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I suspect that he did intend to do that. His nic has been around loog enough to know the results of cut and past in IE.
However, in my case, since so many of my typos, and wrong word choices are accidential and not intentional, you will knever know when one of those apparently unintentionals typos was actually deliberate.
Posted by: Hearld Coatholder at July 05, 2016 01:33 PM (Wo6be)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 05, 2016 01:34 PM (IqV8l)
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What the heck does that even mean? That Hillary had to have her own server because she couldn't remember her password? And does it mean she didn't even password protect her email at all?
Posted by: bluebell at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (805dc)
I think she is just trying to frame it as TFB just committed a common blunder that happens to all of us daily.
Posted by: bluebell at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (805dc)
I think she is just trying to frame it as TFB just committed a common blunder that happens to all of us daily.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 05, 2016 01:34 PM (/CXhS)
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251 So according to Comey, Charlie Manson was a little reckless back in the 60's. Why is he in prison then.
Free the reckless.
My God we're screwed.
Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at July 05, 2016 01:32 PM (/He1L)
They just got a little careless with the silverware, that's all.
Free the reckless.
My God we're screwed.
Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at July 05, 2016 01:32 PM (/He1L)
They just got a little careless with the silverware, that's all.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2016 01:34 PM (0mRoj)
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Eh I mean we need to dump a few states too but we have at this point completely divided into liberal tribes, conservative tribes, and an ultra-selfish elite/Beltway tribe, which are irreconcilable and now frustrate one another at every turn.
We can cut some states apart. Leave them southern California, NYC area New York, that kind of thing. Refuse any trade whatsoever with them. Find your food in the city. You can eat rats.
Eh I mean we need to dump a few states too but we have at this point completely divided into liberal tribes, conservative tribes, and an ultra-selfish elite/Beltway tribe, which are irreconcilable and now frustrate one another at every turn.
We can cut some states apart. Leave them southern California, NYC area New York, that kind of thing. Refuse any trade whatsoever with them. Find your food in the city. You can eat rats.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:34 PM (39g3+)
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Yeah, that whole "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor" thing doesn't get many takers these days. Then again, it didn't get many takers back then, either. We just got lucky that the ones who did take it, backed it to the hilt.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (rznWS)
John Adams worked within the system, until he couldn't anymore. He took a lot of heat, including from his cousin, who was in the streets early on.
I think we can, in hindsight, not fault either. And we needed both.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (rznWS)
John Adams worked within the system, until he couldn't anymore. He took a lot of heat, including from his cousin, who was in the streets early on.
I think we can, in hindsight, not fault either. And we needed both.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 01:34 PM (TOk1P)
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Sarah Palin
GOP TRAITORS - HILLARY DELIGHTS IN YOU, FOR SHE CAN'T WIN WITHOUT YOU
http://fb.me/7wrsdbr09
Sarah Palin
GOP TRAITORS - HILLARY DELIGHTS IN YOU, FOR SHE CAN'T WIN WITHOUT YOU
http://fb.me/7wrsdbr09
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 05, 2016 01:34 PM (kdS6q)
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>>I never expected her to be indicted. I also dont expect her to stop
being above the law. I just find her less scary than Trump. Sorry.
Translation: I'm an idiot
Anyone who can't see that this means Hillary is untouchable should be scared.
She will be Obama on steroids now that he's set the precedent of a lawless government.
At least all those GOPe people will perform checks an balances on Trump because they hate him. Meanwhile, they;ll let Hillary get away with anything.
#WASTF
being above the law. I just find her less scary than Trump. Sorry.
Translation: I'm an idiot
Anyone who can't see that this means Hillary is untouchable should be scared.
She will be Obama on steroids now that he's set the precedent of a lawless government.
At least all those GOPe people will perform checks an balances on Trump because they hate him. Meanwhile, they;ll let Hillary get away with anything.
#WASTF
Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2016 01:34 PM (NOIQH)
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#NeverTrump update from Mr Halloween Prank:
Ben Howe*
I
never expected her to be indicted. I also dont expect her to stop being
above the law. I just find her less scary than Trump. Sorry.
*Red State EiC.
#ImWithHer
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Just remember when the divorce happens, the vocal NeverTrumpers made their choice to stand with the uniparty.
Ben Howe*
I
never expected her to be indicted. I also dont expect her to stop being
above the law. I just find her less scary than Trump. Sorry.
*Red State EiC.
#ImWithHer
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Just remember when the divorce happens, the vocal NeverTrumpers made their choice to stand with the uniparty.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (3Liv/)
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Tyranny is not marked out by it's severity but by it's capriciousness.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (rwI+c)
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I don't get it.
Doesn't having a private/secret server constitute intent?
Please someone explain this to me, I missed Comey's presser.
Doesn't having a private/secret server constitute intent?
Please someone explain this to me, I missed Comey's presser.
Posted by: Pam at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (cF0hS)
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (nhgiS)
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But he really hammered her politically. Being called reckless and careless with national security information by the head of the FBI is pretty damning.
Pfffft. You overestimate the FBI's sway.
By the evening news, it'll be reported that Hill is innocent.
No mention of "reckless and careless" will ever be uttered again.
LiV's will never hear.
Pfffft. You overestimate the FBI's sway.
By the evening news, it'll be reported that Hill is innocent.
No mention of "reckless and careless" will ever be uttered again.
LiV's will never hear.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (Oy2Ew)
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How many of team #nevertrump voted for McCain? I'd posit that McCain was a much stinkier piece of shit, so am very curious about that.
Posted by: Chupacabra at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (F26eZ)
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Any of you peeps have kids in high school? I hope if any of then have any notion of joining the military under this regime (or the incoming one) you slap those thoughts right of their heads.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (0LHZx)
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I know Patrick Henry. Kurt Schlicter is no Patrick Henry.
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He also thinks, per his book, that a good, hard ass-raping of the country by President Hillary will light a wildfire of freedom-loving insurgent conservatives who'll implement all these wondrous libertarian ideals that never caught on anywhere anytime as they are anathema to freedom, i.e. full retreat on the culture wars.
Never you mind that the overwhelming response of the populace worldwide to the failures of socialism is . . . more socialism.
Not "more freedom."
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He also thinks, per his book, that a good, hard ass-raping of the country by President Hillary will light a wildfire of freedom-loving insurgent conservatives who'll implement all these wondrous libertarian ideals that never caught on anywhere anytime as they are anathema to freedom, i.e. full retreat on the culture wars.
Never you mind that the overwhelming response of the populace worldwide to the failures of socialism is . . . more socialism.
Not "more freedom."
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (77emZ)
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197 Amanda Marcotte
Not defending Clinton here. Just saying anyone who has cursed out
loud when their password expires can probably understand her mistake.
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Please tell me this is an attempt at humor. Having worked in IT for 30+ years, this statement goes to the top of my "Wall of Shame" I use for the dumbfuckery I've seen over the years.
Not being able to change a password? So this excuses the flagrant abuse of our top secret information? If she can't handle that, HRC has no business running for office - even if it is for dog catcher.
Not defending Clinton here. Just saying anyone who has cursed out
loud when their password expires can probably understand her mistake.
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Please tell me this is an attempt at humor. Having worked in IT for 30+ years, this statement goes to the top of my "Wall of Shame" I use for the dumbfuckery I've seen over the years.
Not being able to change a password? So this excuses the flagrant abuse of our top secret information? If she can't handle that, HRC has no business running for office - even if it is for dog catcher.
Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed - Sorry Ben, we f*cked up at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (jxbfJ)
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Look at Quantitative Easing 1, 2, 3 and 4 ever and tell me that you think that this government is going to be slowed down one iota by not having enough money. They will just print more. And they will come to your house and throw you in prison.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (QHgTq)
The more they print, the faster the collapse comes.
And I won't be going to prison.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (QHgTq)
The more they print, the faster the collapse comes.
And I won't be going to prison.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:36 PM (oO+cT)
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I'm out. Going to try to get some work done.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 05, 2016 01:36 PM (KUaJL)
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267 But he really hammered her politically. Being called reckless and careless with national security information by the head of the FBI is pretty damning.
Pfffft. You overestimate the FBI's sway.
By the evening news, it'll be reported that Hill is innocent.
No mention of "reckless and careless" will ever be uttered again.
LiV's will never hear.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (Oy2Ew)
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If only we had a second major national party who could use some form of mass media to disseminate this information out to the voters. Oh well.
Pfffft. You overestimate the FBI's sway.
By the evening news, it'll be reported that Hill is innocent.
No mention of "reckless and careless" will ever be uttered again.
LiV's will never hear.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (Oy2Ew)
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If only we had a second major national party who could use some form of mass media to disseminate this information out to the voters. Oh well.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:36 PM (0LHZx)
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So considering the fact that the FBI wasn't able to stop the recent ISIS attacks, that they can't Omar Mateen's wife, and they can't prosecute rogue Secretary's of State who sell our country to the highest bidder, can we just retire them?
I'm trying hard to think about what value we are getting out of them...
I'm trying hard to think about what value we are getting out of them...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2016 01:36 PM (X7E8f)
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At this point they should just drop the Trump University thing.
I mean there was no intent involved............
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Trump University: Fraud
Harvard and Yale degrees in queer studies: Elite higher education.
I mean there was no intent involved............
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Trump University: Fraud
Harvard and Yale degrees in queer studies: Elite higher education.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 05, 2016 01:36 PM (aXzL9)
Posted by: navybrat at July 05, 2016 01:36 PM (w7KSn)
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>>Sarah Palin
>>GOP TRAITORS - HILLARY DELIGHTS IN YOU, FOR SHE CAN'T WIN WITHOUT YOU
Is that the same Sarah Palin who didn't get around to giving her lukewarm endorsement to Romney a couple days before the election?
Yea, she's the voice of reason and authority.
>>GOP TRAITORS - HILLARY DELIGHTS IN YOU, FOR SHE CAN'T WIN WITHOUT YOU
Is that the same Sarah Palin who didn't get around to giving her lukewarm endorsement to Romney a couple days before the election?
Yea, she's the voice of reason and authority.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (/tuJf)
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Comey just punted and determined this to be a political issue and should be handled at the ballot box.
Anyone with any principles would be resigning from the DOJ, FBI, U.S. Marshall's, ATF, ICE, DHS, and any other federally controlled law enforcement entity.
But they won't. It would be reckless...
Anyone with any principles would be resigning from the DOJ, FBI, U.S. Marshall's, ATF, ICE, DHS, and any other federally controlled law enforcement entity.
But they won't. It would be reckless...
Posted by: Vodka 4 the win at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (/He1L)
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228 If Trump actually stood a chance, this back and forth might be worthwhile. Please, do you honestly believe they will let Trump within ten miles of the White House? Trump will never overcome all the forces arrayed against him. Even the GOPe has abandoned him, along with their donors. You think Trump is going to empty his checkbook to fight Hillary and her Citibank donors? You think Trump will be heard above the constant interviews with La Raza and CAIR? The constant barge of anti-Semitic and racist association the media will portray?
Trump was fucked from the get go. He's only there because they don't care so much about fixing the primaries because they control the general.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Yeah, right, polls are reliable and unbiased.
And even those, the intentionally skewed polls, show Trump within spitting distance, and often within the margin of error, of Clinton.
Something like 70% of the nation now say they "don't trust the media," so yeah, I do think he can withstand the barrage of media assaults against him.
What worries me are not any of those things you cite, but the well-oiled and perfected voter-fraud systems that the Democratic Party has established in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. They are so blatant with it every two years, just outrageous in-your-face cheating to deliver hundreds of thousands of votes to the Dem machine, and yet no one ever has the gumption to stop them, no matter how many times it is exposed and pointed out.
If anything might sink Trump, it's that voter fraud in battleground states.
Trump was fucked from the get go. He's only there because they don't care so much about fixing the primaries because they control the general.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Yeah, right, polls are reliable and unbiased.
And even those, the intentionally skewed polls, show Trump within spitting distance, and often within the margin of error, of Clinton.
Something like 70% of the nation now say they "don't trust the media," so yeah, I do think he can withstand the barrage of media assaults against him.
What worries me are not any of those things you cite, but the well-oiled and perfected voter-fraud systems that the Democratic Party has established in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. They are so blatant with it every two years, just outrageous in-your-face cheating to deliver hundreds of thousands of votes to the Dem machine, and yet no one ever has the gumption to stop them, no matter how many times it is exposed and pointed out.
If anything might sink Trump, it's that voter fraud in battleground states.
Posted by: zombie at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (jBuUi)
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But he really hammered her politically. Being called reckless and careless with national security information by the head of the FBI is pretty damning. Hopefully, Trump uses this in a smart way.
Posted by: JackStraw
Yeah, no. People supposedly on THIS side are happily pretending that this is nothing and that the eeeeeevvvvvviiilll trump is gonna be more eeeeevvvvvviiiiillller than someone that's been a tax fattened hyena most of her misbegotten life.
To her base, this is an endorsement. Think of how over twenty years ago some people cheered OJ for ripping out the throats of two human beings., they haven't improved in those twenty years.
As for what trump will do with this, he's already started taking shots
Posted by: JackStraw
Yeah, no. People supposedly on THIS side are happily pretending that this is nothing and that the eeeeeevvvvvviiilll trump is gonna be more eeeeevvvvvviiiiillller than someone that's been a tax fattened hyena most of her misbegotten life.
To her base, this is an endorsement. Think of how over twenty years ago some people cheered OJ for ripping out the throats of two human beings., they haven't improved in those twenty years.
As for what trump will do with this, he's already started taking shots
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (326rv)
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Barack Obama on Patraeus: "We have zero tolerance for mishandling classified imformation."
Barack Obama on Hillary: "I call shotgun!"
Barack Obama on Hillary: "I call shotgun!"
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (2PHKP)
Posted by: Bob at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (XrfHH)
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Has anyone heard from Judge Napalitano? He was sure there was no way Hillary wouldn't be indicted...
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (O2RFr)
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In case it got lost upthread:
Didn't the FBI think Hillary! was guilty in Whitewater, too, but they didn't believe they could get a conviction so recommended no charges?
Couldn't it be the same thing here?
Didn't the FBI think Hillary! was guilty in Whitewater, too, but they didn't believe they could get a conviction so recommended no charges?
Couldn't it be the same thing here?
Posted by: Chupacabra at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (F26eZ)
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"I just find her less scary than Trump. Sorry."
So I see whose side Mr. Howe is on...and the real reason why.
So I see whose side Mr. Howe is on...and the real reason why.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (gmjUl)
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by: RoyalOil at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (77emZ)
The Poles and other former Eastern bloc states would disagree.
The Poles and other former Eastern bloc states would disagree.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (Vi3+d)
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (nhgiS)
289
I hope if any of then have any notion of joining the military under this regime (or the incoming one) you slap those thoughts right of their heads.
I keep saying that and people keep getting mad at me. I keep telling them to take their kids out of public schools, too. But its expensive! I won't be able to afford the other car and my daily latte!
I keep saying that and people keep getting mad at me. I keep telling them to take their kids out of public schools, too. But its expensive! I won't be able to afford the other car and my daily latte!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (39g3+)
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I think she is just trying to frame it as TFB just committed a common blunder that happens to all of us daily.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 05, 2016 01:34 PM (/CXhS)
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Oh, I know. But even for a lib, that's a ridiculous comparison.
"I stubbed my foot on my desk, therefore I am going to burn my office down."
"I forgot my password, therefore I am going to set up my own server."
"My husband saw a mouse in the kitchen today, therefore I want to move."
I may have made one of those statements myself today.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 05, 2016 01:34 PM (/CXhS)
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Oh, I know. But even for a lib, that's a ridiculous comparison.
"I stubbed my foot on my desk, therefore I am going to burn my office down."
"I forgot my password, therefore I am going to set up my own server."
"My husband saw a mouse in the kitchen today, therefore I want to move."
I may have made one of those statements myself today.
Posted by: bluebell at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (805dc)
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>>What the heck does that even mean? That Hillary had to have her own
server because she couldn't remember her password? And does it mean she
didn't even password protect her email at all?
She's attempting to pass off the Smartest Woman Ever in Politics (tm) as some sort of everyman who creates a password of "Password" because it's just so dang hard to keep track of these things!! Poor granny didn't mean to make all sorts of highly classified docs available to hackers, she's just not all that tech savvy.
Hooboy, is that lame!
server because she couldn't remember her password? And does it mean she
didn't even password protect her email at all?
She's attempting to pass off the Smartest Woman Ever in Politics (tm) as some sort of everyman who creates a password of "Password" because it's just so dang hard to keep track of these things!! Poor granny didn't mean to make all sorts of highly classified docs available to hackers, she's just not all that tech savvy.
Hooboy, is that lame!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (NOIQH)
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Is that the same Sarah Palin who didn't get around to giving her lukewarm endorsement to Romney a couple days before the election?
Yea, she's the voice of reason and authority.
Posted by: JackStraw
So I can count on your vote this year, right?
Yea, she's the voice of reason and authority.
Posted by: JackStraw
So I can count on your vote this year, right?
Posted by: Mitt at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (326rv)
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I believe that NeverTrumpers are highly principled and neither liars nor frauds. However, given their principles, they are useless and evil.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 01:24 PM (NUqwG)
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That comment pertains to the nominally GOP #NeverTrump group and their allied idiots (based on their proclaimed principles) and NOT to everyone who will never vote for Trump.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 01:24 PM (NUqwG)
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That comment pertains to the nominally GOP #NeverTrump group and their allied idiots (based on their proclaimed principles) and NOT to everyone who will never vote for Trump.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (NUqwG)
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267
But he really hammered her politically. Being called reckless and
careless with national security information by the head of the FBI is
pretty damning.
Pfffft. You overestimate the FBI's sway.
By the evening news, it'll be reported that Hill is innocent.
No mention of "reckless and careless" will ever be uttered again.
LiV's will never hear.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (Oy2Ew)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sadly - this
But he really hammered her politically. Being called reckless and
careless with national security information by the head of the FBI is
pretty damning.
Pfffft. You overestimate the FBI's sway.
By the evening news, it'll be reported that Hill is innocent.
No mention of "reckless and careless" will ever be uttered again.
LiV's will never hear.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:35 PM (Oy2Ew)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sadly - this
Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed - Sorry Ben, we f*cked up at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (jxbfJ)
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217 -------
I believe that NeverTrumpers are highly principled and neither liars nor frauds.
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As are Communists. Get your head straight
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 05, 2016 01:26 PM (wmxwV)
they are "highly principled" enough to hand the country to Hillary, they have no principles at all
I believe that NeverTrumpers are highly principled and neither liars nor frauds.
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As are Communists. Get your head straight
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 05, 2016 01:26 PM (wmxwV)
they are "highly principled" enough to hand the country to Hillary, they have no principles at all
Posted by: CaraN at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (PVXZe)
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>>Sarah Palin
>>GOP TRAITORS - HILLARY DELIGHTS IN YOU, FOR SHE CAN'T WIN WITHOUT YOU
Is that the same Sarah Palin who didn't get around to giving her lukewarm endorsement to Romney a couple days before the election?
Yea, she's the voice of reason and authority.
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Is she calling out voters or just elected officials?
>>GOP TRAITORS - HILLARY DELIGHTS IN YOU, FOR SHE CAN'T WIN WITHOUT YOU
Is that the same Sarah Palin who didn't get around to giving her lukewarm endorsement to Romney a couple days before the election?
Yea, she's the voice of reason and authority.
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Is she calling out voters or just elected officials?
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (gmeXX)
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USA: It was good while it lasted
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Racist for Dinosaurs at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (aXzL9)
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SO looking forward to Hillary!s presidency.....
Surely she's not going legit and strictly using govt email system right ?
Playa's gotta play...
How does she work around transparency now to avoid getting caught again ?
Surely she's not going legit and strictly using govt email system right ?
Playa's gotta play...
How does she work around transparency now to avoid getting caught again ?
Posted by: McCool at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (TQxRy)
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i withdraw my consent to be governed...
if enough people upped their W-2s to max deductions, the $$$ flow to DC would be strangled.
sure, you'd have to cough it up in April, or go to jail, but it would be a start.
if enough people upped their W-2s to max deductions, the $$$ flow to DC would be strangled.
sure, you'd have to cough it up in April, or go to jail, but it would be a start.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (7XWyA)
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I oppose it in all forms. You seem to think that its not tyranny so long as you are running against Hillary.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (gmeXX)
You have a chance to dispose of one tyrant this fall once and for all.
If Trump ends up being a tyrant, we can dispose of him in 4 years.
No way this country is worse off with him in office.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:27 PM (gmeXX)
You have a chance to dispose of one tyrant this fall once and for all.
If Trump ends up being a tyrant, we can dispose of him in 4 years.
No way this country is worse off with him in office.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (oO+cT)
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At this point one must assume that all FBI agents are regime toadys and not law enforcement.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at July 05, 2016 01:39 PM (rwI+c)
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In a statement, Hillary Clinton's campaign spokesman Brian Fallon said her team is "pleased that the career officials handling this case have determined that no further action by the Department is appropriate."
"As the Secretary has long said, it was a mistake to use her personal email and she would not do it again," Fallon said. "We are glad that this matter is now resolved."
"As the Secretary has long said, it was a mistake to use her personal email and she would not do it again," Fallon said. "We are glad that this matter is now resolved."
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 05, 2016 01:39 PM (/CXhS)
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Is that the same Sarah Palin who didn't get around to giving her lukewarm endorsement to Romney a couple days before the election?
Yea, she's the voice of reason and authority.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (/tuJf)
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Looks like in retrospect it was a smart decision on her part seeing as Romney outed himself as being a member of the uniparty.
Yea, she's the voice of reason and authority.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (/tuJf)
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Looks like in retrospect it was a smart decision on her part seeing as Romney outed himself as being a member of the uniparty.
Posted by: Serenity Now! at July 05, 2016 01:39 PM (BDZWU)
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at July 05, 2016 01:39 PM (wmxwV)
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Didn't the FBI think Hillary! was guilty in Whitewater, too, but they didn't believe they could get a conviction so recommended no charges?
In that case, all the evidence had been destroyed, and she was married to the boss.
In that case, all the evidence had been destroyed, and she was married to the boss.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:39 PM (39g3+)
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289 I hope if any of then have any notion of joining the military under this regime (or the incoming one) you slap those thoughts right of their heads.
I keep saying that and people keep getting mad at me. I keep telling them to take their kids out of public schools, too. But its expensive! I won't be able to afford the other car and my daily latte!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (39g3+)
For a lot of people it's not financially possible. Around here, private school is more expensive than state university.
I keep saying that and people keep getting mad at me. I keep telling them to take their kids out of public schools, too. But its expensive! I won't be able to afford the other car and my daily latte!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (39g3+)
For a lot of people it's not financially possible. Around here, private school is more expensive than state university.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2016 01:39 PM (0mRoj)
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I think it is funny that our retarded FBI director believes intent can have bearing on (gross) negligence.
Words. How do they fucking work?
Words. How do they fucking work?
Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (ZVWnB)
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"As the Secretary has long said, it was a mistake to use her personal email and she would not do it again," Fallon said. "We are glad that this matter is now resolved."
Fuck them to hell...
Fuck them to hell...
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (O2RFr)
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I've nearly used up all my fucks today.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (1ZOkK)
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He really is a nasty asshole.
I've nearly used up all my fucks today.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 05, 2016 01:29 PM (1ZOkK)
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He really is a nasty asshole.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (iQIUe)
310
199 report to the barrel.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (iONHu)
311
I see it's crazy o'clock time.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (/tuJf)
312
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (NUqwG)
If your principles allow you to help the bad guys win, rather than soil your little self with less than perfect, you're a delusional POS
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (NUqwG)
If your principles allow you to help the bad guys win, rather than soil your little self with less than perfect, you're a delusional POS
Posted by: CaraN at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (PVXZe)
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they are "highly principled" enough to hand the country to Hillary, they have no principles at all
Posted by: CaraN at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (PVXZe)
Exactly.
Posted by: CaraN at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (PVXZe)
Exactly.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (HalrA)
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I've said for years that the best way to correct the tax system in this country would be for everyone who pays taxes to go to their payroll clerk, and change their W4 to "Married and 9". Then, come April 15th, don't file a return.
Honestly, how many of us can they actually put in jail? Couple of hundred, maybe, but 45 million?
But what do I know, I'm just a Retired Spook.
Honestly, how many of us can they actually put in jail? Couple of hundred, maybe, but 45 million?
But what do I know, I'm just a Retired Spook.
Posted by: Retired Spook at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (bkSF4)
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I hope if any of then have any notion of joining the military under this regime (or the incoming one) you slap those thoughts right of their heads.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
Make Hillary be the one to bring back the draft and then bring back the anti-draft movement.
I hope if any of then have any notion of joining the military under this regime (or the incoming one) you slap those thoughts right of their heads.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
Make Hillary be the one to bring back the draft and then bring back the anti-draft movement.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (IqV8l)
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284 Has anyone heard from Judge Napalitano? He was sure there was no way Hillary wouldn't be indicted...
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (O2RFr)
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He's a Fox guy. Fox guys get paid to bring viewers in. And how do you think he bring in more viewers
a. Telling you thinks you want to hear (Hills will totes be indicted)
b. Telling you things you dont want to hear (anyone with 1/2 a brain knows this is never happening, don't get your hopes up)
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (O2RFr)
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He's a Fox guy. Fox guys get paid to bring viewers in. And how do you think he bring in more viewers
a. Telling you thinks you want to hear (Hills will totes be indicted)
b. Telling you things you dont want to hear (anyone with 1/2 a brain knows this is never happening, don't get your hopes up)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (0LHZx)
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Good luck with that. The government has the power of the gun and legal intimidation. It will take a lot more than what is going on now to get a critical mass of people to rise up.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 05, 2016 12:45 PM (TnUKj
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33%...that is all you need.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 05, 2016 12:45 PM (TnUKj
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33%...that is all you need.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (KhJh8)
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>>Looks like in retrospect it was a smart decision on her part seeing as Romney outed himself as being a member of the uniparty.
AHOY!!!
AHOY!!!
Posted by: PALINISTO! at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (ZVWnB)
319
285 case it got lost upthread:
Didn't the FBI think Hillary! was guilty in Whitewater, too, but they didn't believe they could get a conviction so recommended no charges?
Couldn't it be the same thing here?
Chupacara
Whitewater was a complex mishmash of ambiguous illegalities . The e-mail case was a straight forward violation of the law easily understood by a layperson.
Didn't the FBI think Hillary! was guilty in Whitewater, too, but they didn't believe they could get a conviction so recommended no charges?
Couldn't it be the same thing here?
Chupacara
Whitewater was a complex mishmash of ambiguous illegalities . The e-mail case was a straight forward violation of the law easily understood by a layperson.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 05, 2016 01:41 PM (Vi3+d)
320
We are not voting our way out of this.
Posted by: rd at July 05, 2016 01:41 PM (v0YLX)
321
FBI facebook page is miles long with people screaming for Comey's resignation.
At least there are still a few Americans who recognize when they are being screwed by their gov.
At least there are still a few Americans who recognize when they are being screwed by their gov.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 05, 2016 01:41 PM (HbTvc)
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She's attempting to pass off the Smartest Woman Ever in Politics (tm) as some sort of everyman who creates a password of "Password" because it's just so dang hard to keep track of these things!! Poor granny didn't mean to make all sorts of highly classified docs available to hackers, she's just not all that tech savvy.
Hooboy, is that lame!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (NOIQH)
Amanda Marcotte, whose claim to fame is the promotion of buttsecks between whores and politicians, is taken seriously as a political thinker in this country.
That she's isn't shamed as a whoremonger is all we need to know about the state of the Union.
Hooboy, is that lame!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (NOIQH)
Amanda Marcotte, whose claim to fame is the promotion of buttsecks between whores and politicians, is taken seriously as a political thinker in this country.
That she's isn't shamed as a whoremonger is all we need to know about the state of the Union.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 01:41 PM (TOk1P)
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#26 I'm assuming whoever wrote this doesn't get a paycheck from a company or keep money in a bank.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at July 05, 2016 01:41 PM (Kucy5)
324
128 - This! Fuck up a liberal's day today!
Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at July 05, 2016 01:41 PM (ucB75)
325
GOP TRAITORS - HILLARY DELIGHTS IN YOU, FOR SHE CAN'T WIN WITHOUT YOU
Is that the same Sarah Palin who didn't get around to giving her lukewarm endorsement to Romney a couple days before the election?
Yea, she's the voice of reason and authority.
it gets worse!!!
She dared endorse Gov katshitt amd Ted Cruz....in the same week!!!!
Wait one.......that was me.
Carry on....and vote for me. cause i respect the primaries.
Is that the same Sarah Palin who didn't get around to giving her lukewarm endorsement to Romney a couple days before the election?
Yea, she's the voice of reason and authority.
it gets worse!!!
She dared endorse Gov katshitt amd Ted Cruz....in the same week!!!!
Wait one.......that was me.
Carry on....and vote for me. cause i respect the primaries.
Posted by: Mitt at July 05, 2016 01:41 PM (326rv)
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If your principles allow you to help the bad guys win, rather than soil your little self with less than perfect, you're a delusional POS
Posted by: CaraN at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (PVXZe)
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I may be a delusion POS, but what the hell are you complaining about?
Posted by: CaraN at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (PVXZe)
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I may be a delusion POS, but what the hell are you complaining about?
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 01:41 PM (NUqwG)
327
So...where do I go to get my security clearance back?
Posted by: John Deutch at July 05, 2016 01:42 PM (j1Wvr)
328
You ass. Romney never even wanted Palin anywhere near him. He fucking banned her from the convention and his people smeared her for years.
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at July 05, 2016 01:42 PM (NAv1Q)
329
Billy Jeff flying to pedophilia Island to have sex with children is just a case of excessive carelessness.
YOLO!!!
YOLO!!!
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 05, 2016 01:42 PM (nhgiS)
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I cannot make an informed decision unless I hear what the oracles of conservatism - Romney, Kristol and Will - have to say about this.
/sarc
/sarc
Posted by: IC at July 05, 2016 01:42 PM (a0IVu)
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You have a chance to dispose of one tyrant this fall once and for all.
If Trump ends up being a tyrant, we can dispose of him in 4 years.
No way this country is worse off with him in office.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (oO+cT)
Trump's excesses, if they turn out to exist, will be held in check by two parties in a hostile Congress. Hillary's excesses will be covered, as were Obama's, by playing the Historic First Card, which shields against all prosecution no matter what you've done.
Obama could be found standing in the streets of DC standing on top of a pile of corpses with a smoking gun and they'd decline to prosecute. Same with Hillary. Trump will have no such special protection.
If Trump ends up being a tyrant, we can dispose of him in 4 years.
No way this country is worse off with him in office.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (oO+cT)
Trump's excesses, if they turn out to exist, will be held in check by two parties in a hostile Congress. Hillary's excesses will be covered, as were Obama's, by playing the Historic First Card, which shields against all prosecution no matter what you've done.
Obama could be found standing in the streets of DC standing on top of a pile of corpses with a smoking gun and they'd decline to prosecute. Same with Hillary. Trump will have no such special protection.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:42 PM (HalrA)
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Is that the same Sarah Palin who didn't get around to giving her
lukewarm endorsement to Romney a couple days before the election?
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Well, he didn't really need her, since he had ORCA
lukewarm endorsement to Romney a couple days before the election?
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Well, he didn't really need her, since he had ORCA
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at July 05, 2016 01:42 PM (3Liv/)
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"You know, Loretta Lynch is a wise negro woman..."
-President Hillary Clinton
-President Hillary Clinton
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:43 PM (39g3+)
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330 I cannot make an informed decision unless I hear what the oracles of conservatism - Romney, Kristol and Will - have to say about this.
/sarc
She's guilty but Trump is scary!
/sarc
She's guilty but Trump is scary!
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:43 PM (O2RFr)
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He's a Fox guy. Fox guys get paid to bring viewers in. And how do you think he bring in more viewers
a. Telling you thinks you want to hear (Hills will totes be indicted)
b. Telling you things you dont want to hear (anyone with 1/2 a brain knows this is never happening, don't get your hopes up)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (0LHZx)
Possibly Judge Napolitano has that quaint notion that all are equal before the law.
He is just slow to let go of it and realize exactly what we have for a government.
a. Telling you thinks you want to hear (Hills will totes be indicted)
b. Telling you things you dont want to hear (anyone with 1/2 a brain knows this is never happening, don't get your hopes up)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:40 PM (0LHZx)
Possibly Judge Napolitano has that quaint notion that all are equal before the law.
He is just slow to let go of it and realize exactly what we have for a government.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 05, 2016 01:43 PM (HbTvc)
336
Listening to Hendrix do The Star Spangled Banner, it occurred to me it sounds a lot like what's happening to the country........
Posted by: lindafell de spair in TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:43 PM (xVgrA)
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327 So...where do I go to get my security clearance back?
Posted by: John Deutch at July 05, 2016 01:42 PM (j1Wvr)
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It should be back there in the corner of the bathroom, right behind Hillary's server, right next to your reputation.
Posted by: John Deutch at July 05, 2016 01:42 PM (j1Wvr)
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It should be back there in the corner of the bathroom, right behind Hillary's server, right next to your reputation.
Posted by: bluebell at July 05, 2016 01:43 PM (805dc)
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In 1776, a revolution was fought on the generally on the basis of taxation, representation, and forced housing of troops.
Fast forward to now:
- Every dollar of income is taxed at 10- 39.6%, then taxed again when used to purchase things, then taxed again on the value of property owned, taxed again on any interest or related earnings, then taxed again when you die and leave any remaining assets you have to anyone or otherwise seized in total.
- By unilateral Executive order, private and public land has been seized and billions of tax dollars are being spent without any vote or consent to house, feed, and educate millions of illegal aliens, refugees from foreign countries that have declared war on the US, and others, many of whom have proven to be enemy combatants and other who refuse allegiance to the US and it's laws.
- The vast majority of government enforcement actions have absolutely no basis in law and have never been voted on by anyone. The enforcements are based on regulations created and enforced exclusively by agencies full on unelected bureaucrats who are accountable to no one, with the slight, very loose exception of the Executive Branch.
- Laws and taxes are routinely targeted at individuals (while others are exempted) and specific items, taxes are created punitively, and applied selectively without any regard to due process or equal protection.
- Thanks to Obamacare and John Roberts, we now have a punitive tax that punishes the act of not purchasing something.
- The national debt is now over $19 trillion dollars (officially). If 100% of GDP were seized by the government and used solely for debt service, this debt could not be repaid. Meanwhile, Congress has ceded it's authority to raise the debt limit to the unilateral whim on the President.
The list can go on and on.
Now tell me, how does voting for (or against) anyone do anything to address any of this?
I ask this leaving out the fact that the past 2 (or more) elections have given us swing districts with over 100% turnout, endless lists of voting dead, and other irrefutable signs of fraud that no one is addressing.
Again, how does this get solved at the ballot box?
Fast forward to now:
- Every dollar of income is taxed at 10- 39.6%, then taxed again when used to purchase things, then taxed again on the value of property owned, taxed again on any interest or related earnings, then taxed again when you die and leave any remaining assets you have to anyone or otherwise seized in total.
- By unilateral Executive order, private and public land has been seized and billions of tax dollars are being spent without any vote or consent to house, feed, and educate millions of illegal aliens, refugees from foreign countries that have declared war on the US, and others, many of whom have proven to be enemy combatants and other who refuse allegiance to the US and it's laws.
- The vast majority of government enforcement actions have absolutely no basis in law and have never been voted on by anyone. The enforcements are based on regulations created and enforced exclusively by agencies full on unelected bureaucrats who are accountable to no one, with the slight, very loose exception of the Executive Branch.
- Laws and taxes are routinely targeted at individuals (while others are exempted) and specific items, taxes are created punitively, and applied selectively without any regard to due process or equal protection.
- Thanks to Obamacare and John Roberts, we now have a punitive tax that punishes the act of not purchasing something.
- The national debt is now over $19 trillion dollars (officially). If 100% of GDP were seized by the government and used solely for debt service, this debt could not be repaid. Meanwhile, Congress has ceded it's authority to raise the debt limit to the unilateral whim on the President.
The list can go on and on.
Now tell me, how does voting for (or against) anyone do anything to address any of this?
I ask this leaving out the fact that the past 2 (or more) elections have given us swing districts with over 100% turnout, endless lists of voting dead, and other irrefutable signs of fraud that no one is addressing.
Again, how does this get solved at the ballot box?
Posted by: Damiano at July 05, 2016 01:43 PM (71OEY)
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I hope if any of then have any notion of joining the military under this regime (or the incoming one) you slap those thoughts right of their heads.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
A) I don't think that is true
B) There are much much more like minded people like me in the Military than in my Civilian life
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
A) I don't think that is true
B) There are much much more like minded people like me in the Military than in my Civilian life
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 01:43 PM (zp+j1)
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Trump's people should make a commercial showing all the crimes Comey said the evidence showed, and then Hillary repeatedly lying to the American public in media interviews (she never sent any classified e-mails, she only had one server, she turned over all the government-business e-mails and only retained the ones about yoga and Chelsea's wedding, etc.).
He should also do a commercial using those quotes from State Dept. people saying no past Secretaries of State had ever done things like set up private servers, or burn their daily official schedules, and then connect the dots for the LIV's: the reason Hillary did these things is because she needed to hide the evidence that she was selling her influence over government policy decisions (such as the sale of Uranium One), and she needed to make sure her meetings with "donors" to the Clinton Foundation couldn't be tracked, and that her e-mails couldn't be obtained through FOIA requests.
He should also do a commercial using those quotes from State Dept. people saying no past Secretaries of State had ever done things like set up private servers, or burn their daily official schedules, and then connect the dots for the LIV's: the reason Hillary did these things is because she needed to hide the evidence that she was selling her influence over government policy decisions (such as the sale of Uranium One), and she needed to make sure her meetings with "donors" to the Clinton Foundation couldn't be tracked, and that her e-mails couldn't be obtained through FOIA requests.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 05, 2016 01:43 PM (NnYnv)
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#41 JHP better for tissue damage, FMJ better for ranged fire and penetration.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at July 05, 2016 01:44 PM (Kucy5)
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"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences."
Translation: We have Two Americas, peasant, and you're in the wrong one.
Translation: We have Two Americas, peasant, and you're in the wrong one.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 05, 2016 01:44 PM (s/EUv)
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Honestly, how many of us can they actually put in jail? Couple of hundred, maybe, but 45 million?>>>
They don't need to put us in jail. They can and would garnish your wages which they already need no due process to do.
They don't need to put us in jail. They can and would garnish your wages which they already need no due process to do.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 05, 2016 01:44 PM (tf9Ne)
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Ben Howe could suffer a massive head injury and not get any dumber.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2016 01:44 PM (+wjl1)
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I just realized how funny something is. I'm at work right now, writing IT security documents for a government agency. I'm documenting password security requirements -- risk statements, cost analysis, practicality for user base -- because if we don't follow the rules in this agency, we'll get fined and a bunch of contractors will get fired.
I kid you not.
I just realized how funny something is. I'm at work right now, writing IT security documents for a government agency. I'm documenting password security requirements -- risk statements, cost analysis, practicality for user base -- because if we don't follow the rules in this agency, we'll get fined and a bunch of contractors will get fired.
I kid you not.
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 01:45 PM (pC96u)
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He should also do a commercial
He should do a commercial period... Hillary has spent millions pounding Him in Battle ground States and He has nary one commercial
He should do a commercial period... Hillary has spent millions pounding Him in Battle ground States and He has nary one commercial
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:45 PM (O2RFr)
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Is that the same Sarah Palin who didn't get around to giving her lukewarm endorsement to Romney a couple days before the election?
Yea, she's the voice of reason and authority.
Posted by: JackStraw
Maybe she knew something you don't, Jack.
But go ahead and keep that candle burning for Mitt. I'm sure he has all the answers you need, chum.
Yea, she's the voice of reason and authority.
Posted by: JackStraw
Maybe she knew something you don't, Jack.
But go ahead and keep that candle burning for Mitt. I'm sure he has all the answers you need, chum.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 01:45 PM (TOk1P)
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Bubba meets with Lynch.
Lynch says it's no big deal, will accept whatever the FBI recommends, (as if she's clueless at that point).
Hillary meets with the FBI Saturday.
Obama and Hillary board AF1 for a campaign trip Monday morning.
FBI announces no charges Monday at 11.
Nothing to see here.
Lynch says it's no big deal, will accept whatever the FBI recommends, (as if she's clueless at that point).
Hillary meets with the FBI Saturday.
Obama and Hillary board AF1 for a campaign trip Monday morning.
FBI announces no charges Monday at 11.
Nothing to see here.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 05, 2016 01:46 PM (2PHKP)
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>>You ass. Romney never even wanted Palin anywhere near him. He fucking banned her from the convention and his people smeared her for years.
Palinistas have such convenient memories. Palin decided at the last minute to host some stupid reality tour that just happened to kickoff on the day Romney launched his campaign and then she spent months sniping at him. This after Romney spent the preceding election campaigning for her and McCain after McCain beat him. And you are surprised that he didn't want her around his campaign?
She didn't give her endorsement until she did on to her Facebook followers the day before the election and she thinks she has the standing to tell other people to get on board the Trump train in July?
Fuck her.
Palinistas have such convenient memories. Palin decided at the last minute to host some stupid reality tour that just happened to kickoff on the day Romney launched his campaign and then she spent months sniping at him. This after Romney spent the preceding election campaigning for her and McCain after McCain beat him. And you are surprised that he didn't want her around his campaign?
She didn't give her endorsement until she did on to her Facebook followers the day before the election and she thinks she has the standing to tell other people to get on board the Trump train in July?
Fuck her.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 01:46 PM (/tuJf)
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"For a lot of people it's not financially possible. Around here, private school is more expensive than state university."
If only there were some sort of arrangement by which the demand for a service such as schooling could stimulate an augmented supply of that service, and bring prices down for that service. I'm thinking about a distributed dynamic mechanism requiring no central control. Wild speculation, I know, but bear with me.
We could call it -- heck, I don't know -- a "market"?
If only there were some sort of arrangement by which the demand for a service such as schooling could stimulate an augmented supply of that service, and bring prices down for that service. I'm thinking about a distributed dynamic mechanism requiring no central control. Wild speculation, I know, but bear with me.
We could call it -- heck, I don't know -- a "market"?
Posted by: torquewrench at July 05, 2016 01:46 PM (noWW6)
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330 I cannot make an informed decision unless I hear what the oracles of conservatism - Romney, Kristol and Will - have to say about this.
I just checked Billy Kristol's Twitter feed.
Trump is a conman, Trump is a Nazi, yadda yadda.
Not a word about Killery walking.
PRINCIPLES!
I just checked Billy Kristol's Twitter feed.
Trump is a conman, Trump is a Nazi, yadda yadda.
Not a word about Killery walking.
PRINCIPLES!
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 05, 2016 01:46 PM (s/EUv)
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they better never let me on another jury, because i'll never vote to convict anyone... the same rules apply to everyone in my book.
no charges for her, no one else should be prosecuted for anything either.
no charges for her, no one else should be prosecuted for anything either.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (7XWyA)
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For a lot of people it's not financially possible. Around here, private school is more expensive than state university.
Home school. Or, you know, let the schools turn your kids into Hillary voters.
Everyone talks about how we should fight and wonders what we can do. This is something really simple. It just requires a lot of sacrifices, for your kids. For the future. But no, send em to public schools where they learn about microaggressions and how much of a horrible racist dinosaur you are.
For a lot of people it's not financially possible. Around here, private school is more expensive than state university.
Home school. Or, you know, let the schools turn your kids into Hillary voters.
Everyone talks about how we should fight and wonders what we can do. This is something really simple. It just requires a lot of sacrifices, for your kids. For the future. But no, send em to public schools where they learn about microaggressions and how much of a horrible racist dinosaur you are.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (39g3+)
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54 The last time I remember feeling like this was the day the OJ Simpson "not guilty" vote was announced.
I know there are differences between the two situations. It's just the feeling that the system is truly, irrevocably broken and rigged.
Posted by: RM at July 05, 2016 12:58 PM (U3LtS)
Good point. The common denominator: the most worthless people in the country have the most say.
I know there are differences between the two situations. It's just the feeling that the system is truly, irrevocably broken and rigged.
Posted by: RM at July 05, 2016 12:58 PM (U3LtS)
Good point. The common denominator: the most worthless people in the country have the most say.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (oKE6c)
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There is a quote at the end of this piece by Andy McCarthy that is a head scratcher.Go see what I mean.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/237926/
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/237926/
Posted by: steevy at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (B48dK)
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But he really hammered her politically. Being called reckless and careless with national security information by the head of the FBI is pretty damning.
Posted by: JackStraw
Here'a a little morsel from the rulers' table, peasant. You had best make it last.
Posted by: JackStraw
Here'a a little morsel from the rulers' table, peasant. You had best make it last.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (8ZskC)
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sure, you'd have to cough it up in April, or go to jail, but it would be a start.
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Maybe, maybe not.
I keep seeing commercials for legal firms that will get back taxes reduced by 90%, so long as they're of minimum age and size.
Which means they've gone unpaid long enough to be of those minimums. That those ads are on TV suggest the target audience isn't in prison.
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Maybe, maybe not.
I keep seeing commercials for legal firms that will get back taxes reduced by 90%, so long as they're of minimum age and size.
Which means they've gone unpaid long enough to be of those minimums. That those ads are on TV suggest the target audience isn't in prison.
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (3Liv/)
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So , thanks for letting us on the scoop--TRUMP is the problem.
IN Whatdirty , nasty, unfair world does 'better-than-Trump' exist?
Yea...Jebito.
So , thanks for letting us on the scoop--TRUMP is the problem.
IN Whatdirty , nasty, unfair world does 'better-than-Trump' exist?
Yea...Jebito.
Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (713RE)
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I'm about to launch a drone strike on my ex wife from my Blackberry using the excessive carelessness standard.
YOLO!!!
YOLO!!!
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (nhgiS)
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I just checked Billy Kristol's Twitter feed.
Trump is a conman, Trump is a Nazi, yadda yadda.
Not a word about Killery walking.
PRINCIPLES!
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 05, 2016 01:46 PM (s/EUv)
Another one for the list.
Trump is a conman, Trump is a Nazi, yadda yadda.
Not a word about Killery walking.
PRINCIPLES!
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 05, 2016 01:46 PM (s/EUv)
Another one for the list.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (oKE6c)
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i withdraw my consent to be governed...
if enough people upped their W-2s to max deductions, the $$$ flow to DC would be strangled.
sure, you'd have to cough it up in April, or go to jail, but it would be a start.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (7XWyA)
No, you don't file. Millions and millions refuse to file. Make them come after us.
A few will get nailed, but that's the price we pay to fight, especially if you're an early bird.
if enough people upped their W-2s to max deductions, the $$$ flow to DC would be strangled.
sure, you'd have to cough it up in April, or go to jail, but it would be a start.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (7XWyA)
No, you don't file. Millions and millions refuse to file. Make them come after us.
A few will get nailed, but that's the price we pay to fight, especially if you're an early bird.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (oO+cT)
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Burn it down...going Galt is too slow. These sobs keep defining criminality to just fit outside whatever the progressive communists have done
Posted by: Mike at July 05, 2016 01:48 PM (YaTC9)
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Trump's people should make a commercial showing all the crimes Comey said the evidence showed
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We'll see what goes up next at LyingCrookedHillary.com. Sadly, #s 2 and 3 are about the email scandal. Seems kind of like a reminder of a hopeful fight from yesteryear.
Trump's people should make a commercial showing all the crimes Comey said the evidence showed
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We'll see what goes up next at LyingCrookedHillary.com. Sadly, #s 2 and 3 are about the email scandal. Seems kind of like a reminder of a hopeful fight from yesteryear.
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 01:48 PM (pC96u)
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Fuck her.
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i'd love to, if she was willing, but i'm pretty sure her husband and my wife would have objections to that...
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i'd love to, if she was willing, but i'm pretty sure her husband and my wife would have objections to that...
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2016 01:48 PM (7XWyA)
365
You have nothing to fear from a Hillary Clinton presidency.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at July 05, 2016 01:48 PM (8ZskC)
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People need to stop bashing Trump! Said by people who still can't stop bashing Romney, McCain, Dole....
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (2cS/G)
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54 The last time I remember feeling like this was the day the OJ Simpson "not guilty" vote was announced.
I know there are differences between the two situations. It's just the feeling that the system is truly, irrevocably broken and rigged.
Posted by: RM at July 05, 2016 12:58 PM (U3LtS)
Good point. The common denominator: the most worthless people in the country have the most say.
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The difference being that the OJ jury voted against the state. I actually have a lot of sympathy for the OJ verdict. They felt like a message needed to be sent to the state and they sent it. This is the state protecting itself.
I know there are differences between the two situations. It's just the feeling that the system is truly, irrevocably broken and rigged.
Posted by: RM at July 05, 2016 12:58 PM (U3LtS)
Good point. The common denominator: the most worthless people in the country have the most say.
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The difference being that the OJ jury voted against the state. I actually have a lot of sympathy for the OJ verdict. They felt like a message needed to be sent to the state and they sent it. This is the state protecting itself.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (gmeXX)
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The Deep Thoughts of Ben Howe:
"Yes, Trump's best feature is that he's not Hillary. Unfortunately Hillary's best feature is that she's not Trump, which is more impressive."
"Yes, Trump's best feature is that he's not Hillary. Unfortunately Hillary's best feature is that she's not Trump, which is more impressive."
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (s/EUv)
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I keep saying that and people keep getting mad at me. I keep telling them to take their kids out of public schools, too. But its expensive! I won't be able to afford the other car and my daily latte!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (39g3+)
For a lot of people it's not financially possible. Around here, private school is more expensive than state university.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2016 01:39 PM (0mRoj)
Screw private school. Homeschool.
Yeah it requires lifestyle change, which is why most people won't do it.
We are a nation of spineless pussies.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (39g3+)
For a lot of people it's not financially possible. Around here, private school is more expensive than state university.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2016 01:39 PM (0mRoj)
Screw private school. Homeschool.
Yeah it requires lifestyle change, which is why most people won't do it.
We are a nation of spineless pussies.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (oO+cT)
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Mark the date. We just discovered for certain that the Rule of Law is dead. We are now a Rule of Men. A Rule of Clinton, actually.
No mention of compromising SAP programs, which the emails leaked confirmed. No mention of her redacting confidential markings,which the emails leaked confirmed. No mention that the gross negligence that Comey said she did, in a press conference, is actually a crime they are not charging.
Grossly negligent on matters of National Security but she gets the nuclear football.
My American flag came down today, and it stays down. You NeverTrumpers and fence sitters better wake the fuck up. You thought the nation might be ill, that it might be salvageable. Today you just got the cancer diagnosis. Plan accordingly. I am.
The Legitimate Avenues of Consequence and Accountability are closed to us. This confirms it. All that's left is this year's vote. I planned to vote for Trump anyway, but now I have to vote to do the job the FBI and DOJ won't.
No mention of compromising SAP programs, which the emails leaked confirmed. No mention of her redacting confidential markings,which the emails leaked confirmed. No mention that the gross negligence that Comey said she did, in a press conference, is actually a crime they are not charging.
Grossly negligent on matters of National Security but she gets the nuclear football.
My American flag came down today, and it stays down. You NeverTrumpers and fence sitters better wake the fuck up. You thought the nation might be ill, that it might be salvageable. Today you just got the cancer diagnosis. Plan accordingly. I am.
The Legitimate Avenues of Consequence and Accountability are closed to us. This confirms it. All that's left is this year's vote. I planned to vote for Trump anyway, but now I have to vote to do the job the FBI and DOJ won't.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (zBwYh)
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Completely off topic from that criminal Hillary, and her bestest buddy, Obama...
I got my starter kit from Vapin Viper today. Enough ingredients for about 15 10 ml bottles of ejuice...for 25 dollars.
Price in stores for a 10 ml bottle of ejuice vary from 4 and half, to 5 and a half dollars each.
Pretty damned tasty. First custom flavor.....Wild Cherry, with a hint of peppermint. Definitely worth the price.
I got my starter kit from Vapin Viper today. Enough ingredients for about 15 10 ml bottles of ejuice...for 25 dollars.
Price in stores for a 10 ml bottle of ejuice vary from 4 and half, to 5 and a half dollars each.
Pretty damned tasty. First custom flavor.....Wild Cherry, with a hint of peppermint. Definitely worth the price.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (oq87a)
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Without an actual plan of action, the above article is meaningless emoting. What does he want? For us to ignore all laws? Passive resistance to each and every law? Only some of them? Which ones and when? Or does he want revolution. If so, say it.
Posted by: Alarmism at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (iX06C)
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Planned Parenthood doctors selling baby parts is obviously a case of excessive carelessness.
YOLO!!!!
YOLO!!!!
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 05, 2016 01:50 PM (nhgiS)
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I wonder where eman is?
I wonder where eman is?
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 01:50 PM (pC96u)
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As soon as the various former McCain staffers began to kneecap Sarah Palin in public, a process upon which they embarked while Obama's victory confetti was still being swept up, I inferred that Romneyworld was quietly inducing those staffers to do so, and that it was a pre-emptive strike by the Mittbot to ruin her reputation before the 2012 primary opportunity.
Still have seen nothing to dissuade me from that hypothesis. Romney could be absolutely ruthless with Republican opponents. Would that he had brought the same ruthlessness to the general election and a Democratic one.
(n.b., Palin did end up with a ruined reputation, and is permanently unviable as a candidate now, but sadly, a large measure of that ruination was her own clumsy fault. Whatever the Mittbot may or may not have done behind the scenes would have been merely additive.)
Still have seen nothing to dissuade me from that hypothesis. Romney could be absolutely ruthless with Republican opponents. Would that he had brought the same ruthlessness to the general election and a Democratic one.
(n.b., Palin did end up with a ruined reputation, and is permanently unviable as a candidate now, but sadly, a large measure of that ruination was her own clumsy fault. Whatever the Mittbot may or may not have done behind the scenes would have been merely additive.)
Posted by: torquewrench at July 05, 2016 01:50 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:51 PM (O2RFr)
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333 "You know, Loretta Lynch is a wise negro woman..."
-President Hillary Clinton
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:43 PM (39g3+)
Just like she's a slender one. They must have a food desert in the Capitol buildings.
-President Hillary Clinton
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:43 PM (39g3+)
Just like she's a slender one. They must have a food desert in the Capitol buildings.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 01:51 PM (oKE6c)
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FTSIQ.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2016 01:51 PM (7XWyA)
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>>> I've said for years that the best way to correct the tax system in this country would be for everyone who pays taxes to go to their payroll clerk, and change their W4 to "Married and 9". Then, come April 15th, don't file a return.
Honestly, how many of us can they actually put in jail? Couple of hundred, maybe, but 45 million?
....
Jail? No. Then you wouldn't be available to keep producing things. They won't put you in jail. Not enough jail space, too much time invested...
They have a much simpler solution. Once your filing (or lack thereof) trips the automated system, an automated letter goes out to every bank that has your SSN on record, seizing your assets. You won't now about it until your ATM balance is zero.
Now, you have a choice. You can petition to get your money back (for years or decades, ask anyone who has gotten hit for structuring)... but you have no money to fight or petition.
So, your alternative is to go back to work, do as your told, and accept the addition fees and interest that the government just ordered your employer to withhold from your wages.
Honestly, how many of us can they actually put in jail? Couple of hundred, maybe, but 45 million?
....
Jail? No. Then you wouldn't be available to keep producing things. They won't put you in jail. Not enough jail space, too much time invested...
They have a much simpler solution. Once your filing (or lack thereof) trips the automated system, an automated letter goes out to every bank that has your SSN on record, seizing your assets. You won't now about it until your ATM balance is zero.
Now, you have a choice. You can petition to get your money back (for years or decades, ask anyone who has gotten hit for structuring)... but you have no money to fight or petition.
So, your alternative is to go back to work, do as your told, and accept the addition fees and interest that the government just ordered your employer to withhold from your wages.
Posted by: Damiano at July 05, 2016 01:51 PM (71OEY)
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353
For a lot of people it's not financially possible. Around here, private school is more expensive than state university.
Home school. Or, you know, let the schools turn your kids into Hillary voters.
Everyone talks about how we should fight and wonders what we can do. This is something really simple. It just requires a lot of sacrifices, for your kids. For the future. But no, send em to public schools where they learn about microaggressions and how much of a horrible racist dinosaur you are.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (39g3+)
And being a single father, how then do I homeschool?
For a lot of people it's not financially possible. Around here, private school is more expensive than state university.
Home school. Or, you know, let the schools turn your kids into Hillary voters.
Everyone talks about how we should fight and wonders what we can do. This is something really simple. It just requires a lot of sacrifices, for your kids. For the future. But no, send em to public schools where they learn about microaggressions and how much of a horrible racist dinosaur you are.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (39g3+)
And being a single father, how then do I homeschool?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2016 01:51 PM (0mRoj)
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If anything might sink Trump, it's that voter fraud in battleground states.
Posted by: zombie at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (jBuUi)
Good thing the GOPe has made such a big issue over the integrity of the vote in a Constitutional Republic...
oh wait!
Posted by: zombie at July 05, 2016 01:37 PM (jBuUi)
Good thing the GOPe has made such a big issue over the integrity of the vote in a Constitutional Republic...
oh wait!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 05, 2016 01:51 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2016 01:52 PM (7XWyA)
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There is a quote at the end of this piece by Andy McCarthy that is a head scratcher.Go see what I mean.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/237926/
Posted by: steevy at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (B48dK)
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By Michael Walsh?
There is a quote at the end of this piece by Andy McCarthy that is a head scratcher.Go see what I mean.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/237926/
Posted by: steevy at July 05, 2016 01:47 PM (B48dK)
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By Michael Walsh?
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 01:52 PM (pC96u)
384
345
I just realized how funny something is. I'm at work right now, writing IT security documents for a government agency. I'm documenting password security requirements -- risk statements, cost analysis, practicality for user base -- because if we don't follow the rules in this agency, we'll get fined and a bunch of contractors will get fired.
_________________
342 "To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences."
Translation: We have Two Americas, peasant, and you're in the wrong one.
I just realized how funny something is. I'm at work right now, writing IT security documents for a government agency. I'm documenting password security requirements -- risk statements, cost analysis, practicality for user base -- because if we don't follow the rules in this agency, we'll get fined and a bunch of contractors will get fired.
_________________
342 "To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences."
Translation: We have Two Americas, peasant, and you're in the wrong one.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 05, 2016 01:52 PM (NnYnv)
385
376
YOLO!!!!
Okay, what is YOLO?
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:51 PM (O2RFr)
Yo, Our Love, Obama
YOLO!!!!
Okay, what is YOLO?
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:51 PM (O2RFr)
Yo, Our Love, Obama
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 05, 2016 01:52 PM (2PHKP)
386
368 The Deep Thoughts of Ben Howe:
"Yes, Trump's best feature is that he's not Hillary. Unfortunately Hillary's best feature is that she's not Trump, which is more impressive."
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (s/EUv)
The list grows apace.
"Yes, Trump's best feature is that he's not Hillary. Unfortunately Hillary's best feature is that she's not Trump, which is more impressive."
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (s/EUv)
The list grows apace.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 01:52 PM (oKE6c)
387
Good thing the GOPe has made such a big issue over the integrity of the vote in a Constitutional Republic...
oh wait!
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You mean like voter ID? A lot of GOP govenors have signed such legislation.
oh wait!
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You mean like voter ID? A lot of GOP govenors have signed such legislation.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:52 PM (gmeXX)
388
No way this country is worse off with him in office.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (oO+cT)
Trump's excesses, if they turn out to exist, will be held in check by two parties in a hostile Congress. Hillary's excesses will be covered, as were Obama's, by playing the Historic First Card, which shields against all prosecution no matter what you've done.
Obama could be found standing in the streets of DC standing on top of a pile of corpses with a smoking gun and they'd decline to prosecute. Same with Hillary. Trump will have no such special protection.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:42 PM (HalrA)
Totally agree.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:38 PM (oO+cT)
Trump's excesses, if they turn out to exist, will be held in check by two parties in a hostile Congress. Hillary's excesses will be covered, as were Obama's, by playing the Historic First Card, which shields against all prosecution no matter what you've done.
Obama could be found standing in the streets of DC standing on top of a pile of corpses with a smoking gun and they'd decline to prosecute. Same with Hillary. Trump will have no such special protection.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:42 PM (HalrA)
Totally agree.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:52 PM (oO+cT)
389
376 YOLO!!!!
Okay, what is YOLO?
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:51 PM (O2RFr)
YOLO is "You Only Live Once"
The second most dangerous phrase in the English language, behind the 7 Deadliest Words: "Hold My Beer And Watch This, Y'all!"
Okay, what is YOLO?
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:51 PM (O2RFr)
YOLO is "You Only Live Once"
The second most dangerous phrase in the English language, behind the 7 Deadliest Words: "Hold My Beer And Watch This, Y'all!"
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 01:53 PM (HalrA)
Posted by: donna at July 05, 2016 01:53 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at July 05, 2016 01:53 PM (3Liv/)
392
You
Only
Live
Oonce
So there are no rules. Do anything you want, because after you are dead, there is nothing.
You
Only
Live
Oonce
So there are no rules. Do anything you want, because after you are dead, there is nothing.
Posted by: Hearld Coatholder at July 05, 2016 01:53 PM (Wo6be)
393
26
Honestly, if conservatives that wanted to end this nonsense just stopped
paying their taxes this government would fall apart pretty quickly.
I'm amazed how many people will talk about stockpiling weapons,
about secession, etc and not the one thing that could destroy the US
very quickly.
Before we start doing that we need to stop convicting people in all Federal cases. Once we remove the threat of doing serious jail time for not paying your taxes, well then Katie bar the door. Once people aren't afraid of being sent to prison and spending time locked in a cell with Bubba who thinks they look cute.
Honestly, if conservatives that wanted to end this nonsense just stopped
paying their taxes this government would fall apart pretty quickly.
I'm amazed how many people will talk about stockpiling weapons,
about secession, etc and not the one thing that could destroy the US
very quickly.
Before we start doing that we need to stop convicting people in all Federal cases. Once we remove the threat of doing serious jail time for not paying your taxes, well then Katie bar the door. Once people aren't afraid of being sent to prison and spending time locked in a cell with Bubba who thinks they look cute.
Posted by: southdakotaboy at July 05, 2016 01:53 PM (yh4lQ)
394
The difference being that the OJ jury voted against the state. I actually have a lot of sympathy for the OJ verdict. They felt like a message needed to be sent to the state and they sent it.
They let a multiple murderer go free because of racism on their part against white and hate of cops. Its that simple. Nothing cops did made a double murder by a wife beating scumbag okay. Nothing, ever.
They let a multiple murderer go free because of racism on their part against white and hate of cops. Its that simple. Nothing cops did made a double murder by a wife beating scumbag okay. Nothing, ever.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:54 PM (39g3+)
395
Amanda Marcotte, whose claim to fame is the
promotion of buttsecks between whores and politicians, is taken
seriously as a political thinker in this country.
That she's isn't shamed as a whoremonger is all we need to know about the state of the Union.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 01:41 PM (TOk1P)
Yep. She isn't into getting nailed in the squeaker; she was just miming loyal American taxpayers.
promotion of buttsecks between whores and politicians, is taken
seriously as a political thinker in this country.
That she's isn't shamed as a whoremonger is all we need to know about the state of the Union.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2016 01:41 PM (TOk1P)
Yep. She isn't into getting nailed in the squeaker; she was just miming loyal American taxpayers.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 01:54 PM (oKE6c)
396
366 People need to stop bashing Trump! Said by people who still can't stop bashing Romney, McCain, Dole....
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (2cS/G)
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Trump did not help us get into this awful situation...they did!
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (2cS/G)
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Trump did not help us get into this awful situation...they did!
Posted by: William Eaton at July 05, 2016 01:54 PM (KhJh8)
397
366 Posted by: Lincolntf at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (2cS/G)
I voted for shitheels 1,2 and 3 Linc....
looks like "sane GOPers" won't be able to say the same this fall.
The party's yours, after Grammy wins I quit.
I voted for shitheels 1,2 and 3 Linc....
looks like "sane GOPers" won't be able to say the same this fall.
The party's yours, after Grammy wins I quit.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 05, 2016 01:54 PM (SzZnW)
398
Am I to understand there are to be no prosecutions?
Posted by: Weasel at July 05, 2016 01:54 PM (6xtq3)
399
>>I'm documenting password security requirements -- risk statements, cost
analysis, practicality for user base -- because if we don't follow the
rules in this agency, we'll get fined and a bunch of contractors will
get fired.
Exactly.
And the same thing applies to the private sector: Would you hire a CEO who was known for handling business off the books and who compromised proprietary company info with impunity(like allowing it to be hacked by your competitors)?
I would want nothing to do with a company headed by Hillary, yet we have tech and other ginormous company CEOs supporting Hillary.
*headslap*
analysis, practicality for user base -- because if we don't follow the
rules in this agency, we'll get fined and a bunch of contractors will
get fired.
Exactly.
And the same thing applies to the private sector: Would you hire a CEO who was known for handling business off the books and who compromised proprietary company info with impunity(like allowing it to be hacked by your competitors)?
I would want nothing to do with a company headed by Hillary, yet we have tech and other ginormous company CEOs supporting Hillary.
*headslap*
Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2016 01:55 PM (NOIQH)
400
Bubba meets with Lynch.
Lynch says it's no big deal, will accept whatever the FBI recommends, (as if she's clueless at that point).
Hillary meets with the FBI Saturday.
Obama and Hillary board AF1 for a campaign trip Monday morning.
FBI announces no charges Monday at 11.
Nothing to see here.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 05, 2016 01:46 PM (2PHKP)
..................
Ground breaking for first Fun Camp next month.
Lynch says it's no big deal, will accept whatever the FBI recommends, (as if she's clueless at that point).
Hillary meets with the FBI Saturday.
Obama and Hillary board AF1 for a campaign trip Monday morning.
FBI announces no charges Monday at 11.
Nothing to see here.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 05, 2016 01:46 PM (2PHKP)
..................
Ground breaking for first Fun Camp next month.
Posted by: wth at July 05, 2016 01:55 PM (HgMAr)
401
The CHI has been part of the lawlessnes and globalist agenda for a long time.
Ruby Ridge anyone?
A murderer name of Lon Horiuchi?
Ruby Ridge anyone?
A murderer name of Lon Horiuchi?
Posted by: not the real me at July 05, 2016 01:55 PM (E9vLe)
402
Honestly, how many of us can they actually put in jail? Couple of hundred, maybe, but 45 million?>>>
They don't need to put us in jail. They can and would garnish your wages which they already need no due process to do.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 05, 2016 01:44 PM (tf9Ne)
They don't have enough manpower and firepower to get everybody, or nearly a significant amount.
They don't need to put us in jail. They can and would garnish your wages which they already need no due process to do.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 05, 2016 01:44 PM (tf9Ne)
They don't have enough manpower and firepower to get everybody, or nearly a significant amount.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:55 PM (oO+cT)
403
Escessive Carelessness is 21st century Totalitarianism with YOLO.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 05, 2016 01:55 PM (nhgiS)
404
They don't need to put us in jail. They can and would garnish your wages which they already need no due process to do.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 05, 2016 01:44 PM (tf9Ne)
Exactly.
Why do you think there are a zillion commercials for all these rip off companies that supposedly get the IRS off your back?
Art. V convention is the only way out of this. And before anyone starts telling me that the gov. will just ignore it, (a full clause in the Constitution), the ideas I've heard of other ways to fix the people's relationship with the government are ludicrous at best.
Texas is not going to 'exit" the USA. Not paying taxes(gee, what happens when you go to your employer and tell him you want NO withholding) will land you in bankruptcy and then jail. or the one I marvel at the most, a civil war.
This isn't 1862, the age of telegraph and written letters, cannons and no electricity. Any armed resurrection would be immediately and positively put down by the government, and by the Army, National Guard, and local Law enforcement. Who are far better equipped than any of us.
The best any of us can do is to try to right some of the wrongs through a convention and through the ballot box. Keep trying to work at the local level as much as possible, just as the left did and has done successfully for 50 years. Try to educate young people.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 05, 2016 01:44 PM (tf9Ne)
Exactly.
Why do you think there are a zillion commercials for all these rip off companies that supposedly get the IRS off your back?
Art. V convention is the only way out of this. And before anyone starts telling me that the gov. will just ignore it, (a full clause in the Constitution), the ideas I've heard of other ways to fix the people's relationship with the government are ludicrous at best.
Texas is not going to 'exit" the USA. Not paying taxes(gee, what happens when you go to your employer and tell him you want NO withholding) will land you in bankruptcy and then jail. or the one I marvel at the most, a civil war.
This isn't 1862, the age of telegraph and written letters, cannons and no electricity. Any armed resurrection would be immediately and positively put down by the government, and by the Army, National Guard, and local Law enforcement. Who are far better equipped than any of us.
The best any of us can do is to try to right some of the wrongs through a convention and through the ballot box. Keep trying to work at the local level as much as possible, just as the left did and has done successfully for 50 years. Try to educate young people.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 05, 2016 01:55 PM (HbTvc)
405
Yep. Irish democracy time, folks.
http://granitegrok.com/blog/2012/12/what-is-going-galt-what-is-irish-democracy
Start small, but make it widespread
http://granitegrok.com/blog/2012/12/what-is-going-galt-what-is-irish-democracy
Start small, but make it widespread
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 05, 2016 01:56 PM (lutOX)
406
Part of the blame lies with the GOPe assholes we have had on the Judiciary committee for decades - Lindsey and Hatch in particular - ensuring the Dims 'get there vote' on the floor. Both of those clowns could have voted No on every Clinton or Obama appointment, regardless of qualifications, and been re-elected.
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2016 01:56 PM (Doh4+)
407
The difference being that the OJ jury voted against the state. I actually have a lot of sympathy for the OJ verdict. They felt like a message needed to be sent to the state and they sent it. This is the state protecting itself.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (gmeXX)
Yeah, make excuses for the criminal element you worthless scum.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (gmeXX)
Yeah, make excuses for the criminal element you worthless scum.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:56 PM (oO+cT)
408
Never thought about the jury thing. But that's a great way to fight back. You only need 1/12 people and even in the deepest blue parts of the country, chances are at least one member of the jury is conservative. Stop all convictions of non-violent crime. Cheated on taxes? Meh. Didn't file the proper paperwork to put that addition on your house? Oopsie, no big deal.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:56 PM (0LHZx)
409
Okay, what is YOLO?
Something idiotic low info voter young people yell as they do something absolutely retarded. Its the song of the immature and short sighted. Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
Something idiotic low info voter young people yell as they do something absolutely retarded. Its the song of the immature and short sighted. Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:56 PM (39g3+)
410
The difference being that the OJ jury voted against
the state. I actually have a lot of sympathy for the OJ verdict. They
felt like a message needed to be sent to the state and they sent it.
This is the state protecting itself.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (gmeXX)
Gotta disagree. As charter members of Club 85, the jury didn't have the brain power to think of anything that abstract and philosophical. They considered that OJ's butt was the same color as their butts, and the victims' butts were not, so they voted to acquit. Nothing more than that.
the state. I actually have a lot of sympathy for the OJ verdict. They
felt like a message needed to be sent to the state and they sent it.
This is the state protecting itself.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:49 PM (gmeXX)
Gotta disagree. As charter members of Club 85, the jury didn't have the brain power to think of anything that abstract and philosophical. They considered that OJ's butt was the same color as their butts, and the victims' butts were not, so they voted to acquit. Nothing more than that.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 01:56 PM (oKE6c)
411
The difference being that the OJ jury voted against the state. I actually have a lot of sympathy for the OJ verdict. They felt like a message needed to be sent to the state and they sent it.
They let a multiple murderer go free because of racism on their part against white and hate of cops. Its that simple. Nothing cops did made a double murder by a wife beating scumbag okay. Nothing, ever.
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I agree they let a murderer go free. But there was a history - at least to them - of abuses. Whether they were justified or not, they used their power of jury nullification to push back against the state. On that, I definitely have some sympathy. And it doesn't help when a key detective when asked if he planted any evidence says "I wish to assert my 5th A privilege."
They let a multiple murderer go free because of racism on their part against white and hate of cops. Its that simple. Nothing cops did made a double murder by a wife beating scumbag okay. Nothing, ever.
---------
I agree they let a murderer go free. But there was a history - at least to them - of abuses. Whether they were justified or not, they used their power of jury nullification to push back against the state. On that, I definitely have some sympathy. And it doesn't help when a key detective when asked if he planted any evidence says "I wish to assert my 5th A privilege."
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:56 PM (gmeXX)
412
OT, but some good news from Switzerland...the bastion of common sense in Europe. They had two teenage Muslim girls applying for citizenship but refusing to cooperate with school regulations about swimming lessons with the boys (they wanted a separate girls only pool or something) so the government promptly denied their citizenship request.
Posted by: IC at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (a0IVu)
413
Those Nazis during the Nuremberg Trials should have argued excessive carelessness instead of just following orders.
YOLO!
YOLO!
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (nhgiS)
414
Meme quand je marcherais dans le vallee de l'ombre de la mort, je ne craindrais aucun mal, car l'ombre est le mien... Et aussi le putain vallee est le mien!
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (kP16F)
415
The IRS garnishes wages after there's a judgement against you. If you don't file, how do they do a judgement against you? I'm asking because I honestly don't know how it works. I'm one of those suckers who actually pays taxes.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (0LHZx)
416
People need to stop bashing Trump! Said by people who still can't stop bashing Romney, McCain, Dole....
They stopped during the campaign. You know, that "support the nominee to stop the Democrat" thing we were told the last 20 years? At all costs, no matter how loathsome they were?
Yeah, people did that. But not this time, because suddenly its not their guy.
They stopped during the campaign. You know, that "support the nominee to stop the Democrat" thing we were told the last 20 years? At all costs, no matter how loathsome they were?
Yeah, people did that. But not this time, because suddenly its not their guy.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 01:58 PM (39g3+)
417
Things I could do on election day:
A) Vote for Hillary
B) Vote for Trump
C) Vote for the dork who's name I haven't bothered to learn
D) Write myself in
E) Buy ammo
....
I'm thinking E.
It's the only choice with any potential benefit to me and works universally to solve any issues arising from the consequences of A- D.
A) Vote for Hillary
B) Vote for Trump
C) Vote for the dork who's name I haven't bothered to learn
D) Write myself in
E) Buy ammo
....
I'm thinking E.
It's the only choice with any potential benefit to me and works universally to solve any issues arising from the consequences of A- D.
Posted by: Damiano at July 05, 2016 01:58 PM (71OEY)
418
Scooter Libby served a year in jail for far less.
Posted by: Mike at July 05, 2016 01:58 PM (ISxUB)
419
And being a single father, how then do I homeschool?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2016 01:51 PM (0mRoj)
When you're not at work.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 05, 2016 01:51 PM (0mRoj)
When you're not at work.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 01:58 PM (oO+cT)
420
The way for Texas to leave the Union is to vote to split into five States. The Dim Senators will trip over themselves to get them out. Texas should beg to stay.
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2016 01:58 PM (Doh4+)
421
383 He quotes a paragraph by McCarthy which includes the head scratching sentence at the end of it.
Posted by: steevy at July 05, 2016 01:58 PM (B48dK)
422
Foreign nations have had their Parliaments stormed and overtaken for far, far less than this.
Posted by: artist at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (TwnkX)
423
Am I to understand there are to be no prosecutions?
Posted by: Weasel at July 05, 2016 01:54 PM (6xtq3)
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There actually could be if Trump wins.
Am I to understand there are to be no prosecutions?
Posted by: Weasel at July 05, 2016 01:54 PM (6xtq3)
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There actually could be if Trump wins.
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (pC96u)
424
How about something like millions of taxpayers signing onto a common statement of principles: say something in line with the (former) United States Constitution, and then all file their taxes two months late?
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (k8tEg)
425
Gotta disagree. As charter members of Club 85, the jury didn't have the brain power to think of anything that abstract and philosophical. They considered that OJ's butt was the same color as their butts, and the victims' butts were not, so they voted to acquit. Nothing more than that.
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I think that sort of ignores the times in which this was set. You don't think the Rodney King verdict played any role in the OJ verdict?
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I think that sort of ignores the times in which this was set. You don't think the Rodney King verdict played any role in the OJ verdict?
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (gmeXX)
426
She didn't give her endorsement until she did on to her Facebook followers the day before the election and she thinks she has the standing to tell other people to get on board the Trump train in July?
Fuck her.
Posted by: JackStraw
Howz about I strap her to the roof of the car on my way to Cleveland?
Fuck her.
Posted by: JackStraw
Howz about I strap her to the roof of the car on my way to Cleveland?
Posted by: Mitt at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (326rv)
427
I think everyone is wasting powder on the #nevertards.
I think the fix in with the repuke convention too.
The fix will make the #nevertards happy.
I think the fix in with the repuke convention too.
The fix will make the #nevertards happy.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (WVsWD)
428
"an actual plan of action"
Pray that God protects you and yours from Hilary and her enablers.
Pray that all the people who voted for Obama and Hillary bear the costs of their mismanagement.
Pray that Bill Clinton bears all the costs of enabling his wife. Pray that Bill and Hillary are forced to live together in a house with less than ten rooms and no mor than two bathrooms for the rest of their lives.
Pray that Bill Clinton is continuously monitored and micromanaged by his wife.
Pray that Bill Clinton must write a daily report to Hillary and she surrounds him with lesbians.
Pray that all Hillary's current aides are replaced with male Marine Corp Drill instructors over 60 years old.
Pray that God protects you and yours from Hilary and her enablers.
Pray that all the people who voted for Obama and Hillary bear the costs of their mismanagement.
Pray that Bill Clinton bears all the costs of enabling his wife. Pray that Bill and Hillary are forced to live together in a house with less than ten rooms and no mor than two bathrooms for the rest of their lives.
Pray that Bill Clinton is continuously monitored and micromanaged by his wife.
Pray that Bill Clinton must write a daily report to Hillary and she surrounds him with lesbians.
Pray that all Hillary's current aides are replaced with male Marine Corp Drill instructors over 60 years old.
Posted by: Ok at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (jN+3o)
429
415 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (0LHZx)
IRS knows what you made in your paycheck before you do if you earn wages.
If you are paid salary, or make your primary living off unearned income they are clueless.
IRS knows what you made in your paycheck before you do if you earn wages.
If you are paid salary, or make your primary living off unearned income they are clueless.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (SzZnW)
430
And the same thing applies to the private sector: Would you hire a CEO who was known for handling business off the books and who compromised proprietary company info with impunity(like allowing it to be hacked by your competitors)?
I would want nothing to do with a company headed by Hillary, yet we have tech and other ginormous company CEOs supporting Hillary.
*headslap*
Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2016 01:55 PM (NOIQH)
Mark Dice asked Bernie supporters on Oceanside pier what they thought of Bernie's proposal to nominate Bernard Madoff to be SecTreas because of all his financial experience. The Bernietards were enthusiastic about it.
But the things are going, the joke may be on Dice. We may just end up with Madoff as SecTreas.
I would want nothing to do with a company headed by Hillary, yet we have tech and other ginormous company CEOs supporting Hillary.
*headslap*
Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2016 01:55 PM (NOIQH)
Mark Dice asked Bernie supporters on Oceanside pier what they thought of Bernie's proposal to nominate Bernard Madoff to be SecTreas because of all his financial experience. The Bernietards were enthusiastic about it.
But the things are going, the joke may be on Dice. We may just end up with Madoff as SecTreas.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (oKE6c)
431
I'm going to vote for the NYC douchebag, but I don't have to like it.
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 05, 2016 02:00 PM (2cS/G)
432
Bill Kristol and George Will, wherever you are, FUCK YOU TOO!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 05, 2016 02:00 PM (kTF2Z)
433
420
The way for Texas to leave the Union is to vote to split into five
States. The Dim Senators will trip over themselves to get them out.
Texas should beg to stay.
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2016 01:58 PM (Doh4+)
We joined by treaty and there is no legitimate government in the USA. A treaty with an entity that no longer exists is void.
The way for Texas to leave the Union is to vote to split into five
States. The Dim Senators will trip over themselves to get them out.
Texas should beg to stay.
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2016 01:58 PM (Doh4+)
We joined by treaty and there is no legitimate government in the USA. A treaty with an entity that no longer exists is void.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:00 PM (HalrA)
434
OT, but some good news from Switzerland...the bastion of common sense in Europe. They had two teenage Muslim girls applying for citizenship but refusing to cooperate with school regulations about swimming lessons with the boys (they wanted a separate girls only pool or something) so the government promptly denied their citizenship request.
Posted by: IC at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (a0IVu)
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w00t!
OT, but some good news from Switzerland...the bastion of common sense in Europe. They had two teenage Muslim girls applying for citizenship but refusing to cooperate with school regulations about swimming lessons with the boys (they wanted a separate girls only pool or something) so the government promptly denied their citizenship request.
Posted by: IC at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (a0IVu)
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w00t!
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 02:00 PM (pC96u)
435
OT, but some good news from Switzerland...the bastion of common sense in Europe. They had two teenage Muslim girls applying for citizenship but refusing to cooperate with school regulations about swimming lessons with the boys (they wanted a separate girls only pool or something) so the government promptly denied their citizenship request.
Posted by: IC at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (a0IVu)
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It is not clear from the information available but I will extrapolate and assume they were not pissing and shitting in the pool. That is also good news of some sort.
Posted by: IC at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (a0IVu)
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It is not clear from the information available but I will extrapolate and assume they were not pissing and shitting in the pool. That is also good news of some sort.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 02:00 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 05, 2016 02:00 PM (s/EUv)
437
424 How about something like millions of taxpayers signing onto a common statement of principles: say something in line with the (former) United States Constitution, and then all file their taxes two months late?
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (k8tEg)
When the federal government is already roughly ~18 T in debt, A billion or so coming 2 months late won't make a difference.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (k8tEg)
When the federal government is already roughly ~18 T in debt, A billion or so coming 2 months late won't make a difference.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 05, 2016 02:01 PM (KUaJL)
438
Things I could do on election day:
A) Vote for Hillary
B) Vote for Trump
C) Vote for the dork who's name I haven't bothered to learn
D) Write myself in
E) Buy ammo
....
I'm thinking E.
It's the only choice with any potential benefit to me and works universally to solve any issues arising from the consequences of A- D.
Posted by: Damiano at July 05, 2016 01:58 PM (71OEY)
I guess your incapable of multi tasking?
A) Vote for Hillary
B) Vote for Trump
C) Vote for the dork who's name I haven't bothered to learn
D) Write myself in
E) Buy ammo
....
I'm thinking E.
It's the only choice with any potential benefit to me and works universally to solve any issues arising from the consequences of A- D.
Posted by: Damiano at July 05, 2016 01:58 PM (71OEY)
I guess your incapable of multi tasking?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:01 PM (zp+j1)
439
For the love of...
Auto-c doesn't recognize FBI?
Auto-c doesn't recognize FBI?
Posted by: not the real me at July 05, 2016 02:01 PM (E9vLe)
440
429 415 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (0LHZx)
IRS knows what you made in your paycheck before you do if you earn wages.
If you are paid salary, or make your primary living off unearned income they are clueless.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (SzZnW)
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Fine they know I made $X. But they don't know if that means I owe $Z in taxes or $0 in taxes. Hell maybe I qualify for EITC and they owe me money. My point is without me filing a tax return, they don't know what I owe. So how do they garnish my wages based on a figure that is unknown?
IRS knows what you made in your paycheck before you do if you earn wages.
If you are paid salary, or make your primary living off unearned income they are clueless.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (SzZnW)
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Fine they know I made $X. But they don't know if that means I owe $Z in taxes or $0 in taxes. Hell maybe I qualify for EITC and they owe me money. My point is without me filing a tax return, they don't know what I owe. So how do they garnish my wages based on a figure that is unknown?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:01 PM (0LHZx)
441
I think that sort of ignores the times in which this
was set. You don't think the Rodney King verdict played any role in
the OJ verdict?
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (gmeXX)
I think the exact same thing could happen today, for the exact same reason.
See, e.g., Obongo's election. Color check on butts, then head for the polls. Simple, really.
was set. You don't think the Rodney King verdict played any role in
the OJ verdict?
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:59 PM (gmeXX)
I think the exact same thing could happen today, for the exact same reason.
See, e.g., Obongo's election. Color check on butts, then head for the polls. Simple, really.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:01 PM (oKE6c)
442
Whether they were justified or not, they used their power of jury nullification to push back against the state. On that, I definitely have some sympathy.
They didn't even think that far. They were dumb and easily swayed by the sophistry of the defense team. Later, most of them admitted they were wrong. They didn't defend it with "but fighting the MAN!" they just said they were not thinking straight or the prosecutors did a bad job.
This wasn't some big statement of jury nullification and struggling against the state. It was stupid people being stupid, and racist people being racist against whites.
They didn't even think that far. They were dumb and easily swayed by the sophistry of the defense team. Later, most of them admitted they were wrong. They didn't defend it with "but fighting the MAN!" they just said they were not thinking straight or the prosecutors did a bad job.
This wasn't some big statement of jury nullification and struggling against the state. It was stupid people being stupid, and racist people being racist against whites.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:01 PM (39g3+)
443
It is not clear from the information available but I
will extrapolate and assume they were not pissing and shitting in the
pool. That is also good news of some sort.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 02:00 PM (NUqwG)
So they ARE educable. A bit.
will extrapolate and assume they were not pissing and shitting in the
pool. That is also good news of some sort.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 02:00 PM (NUqwG)
So they ARE educable. A bit.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:02 PM (oKE6c)
444
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 01:10 PM (gmeXX)
The one lesson I learned from the left is to make people accountable for their actions and statements.
If you do not take this singular opportunity to stop HER, NOW,
while you have the last chance available to you out of some delusional "principle", then keep you mouth shut tight for the 8 years of
Hillary's Reign. I don't want to hear Complaint 1.
The one lesson I learned from the left is to make people accountable for their actions and statements.
If you do not take this singular opportunity to stop HER, NOW,
while you have the last chance available to you out of some delusional "principle", then keep you mouth shut tight for the 8 years of
Hillary's Reign. I don't want to hear Complaint 1.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at July 05, 2016 02:03 PM (zBwYh)
445
they used their power of jury nullification to push back against the state
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they used their power of jury nullification to get whitey.
they used their power of jury nullification to push back against the state
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they used their power of jury nullification to get whitey.
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 02:03 PM (pC96u)
446
440 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:01 PM (0LHZx)
You go to HR and tell them "hey I have 42 kids" then the IRS cross indexes your census data and sends out an investigator.
Not really effective unless we have 40 million + scofflaws.
You go to HR and tell them "hey I have 42 kids" then the IRS cross indexes your census data and sends out an investigator.
Not really effective unless we have 40 million + scofflaws.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 05, 2016 02:03 PM (SzZnW)
447
>>They stopped during the campaign. You know, that "support the nominee to stop the Democrat" thing we were told the last 20 years? At all costs, no matter how loathsome they were?
That's simply false. This place was neverMcCain all the way to election day and partially neverRomney. And this was far from the only place. Restate banned anyone who didn't slam Romney.
The reason this time some are having a hard time is because Trump is so far out there. We used to argue daily about who was and who wasn't a conservative. The only bar for Trump for a lot of people is that he isn't Hillary.
I think most will come around before the election but the idea that everybody got on the McCain or Romney train as soon as they were the nominee is flat wrong.
That's simply false. This place was neverMcCain all the way to election day and partially neverRomney. And this was far from the only place. Restate banned anyone who didn't slam Romney.
The reason this time some are having a hard time is because Trump is so far out there. We used to argue daily about who was and who wasn't a conservative. The only bar for Trump for a lot of people is that he isn't Hillary.
I think most will come around before the election but the idea that everybody got on the McCain or Romney train as soon as they were the nominee is flat wrong.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 02:03 PM (/tuJf)
448
"Any armed resurrection would be immediately and positively put down by the government"
Well, dang.
Well, dang.
Posted by: Fightin at July 05, 2016 02:03 PM (noWW6)
449
Yeah, Kurt, I kind of figured that out a while ago.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 05, 2016 02:03 PM (B0X2V)
450
They didn't even think that far. They were dumb and easily swayed by the sophistry of the defense team. Later, most of them admitted they were wrong. They didn't defend it with "but fighting the MAN!" they just said they were not thinking straight or the prosecutors did a bad job.
This wasn't some big statement of jury nullification and struggling against the state. It was stupid people being stupid, and racist people being racist against whites.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:01 PM (39g3+)
Not thinking straight? Let's face it, they didn't have much to think WITH.
This wasn't some big statement of jury nullification and struggling against the state. It was stupid people being stupid, and racist people being racist against whites.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:01 PM (39g3+)
Not thinking straight? Let's face it, they didn't have much to think WITH.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:03 PM (oKE6c)
451
You go to HR and tell them "hey I have 42 kids" then the IRS cross indexes your census data and sends out an investigator.
Not really effective unless we have 40 million + scofflaws.
Posted by: sven10077
Not if your name is Gonzales.
Not really effective unless we have 40 million + scofflaws.
Posted by: sven10077
Not if your name is Gonzales.
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2016 02:03 PM (Doh4+)
452
415 The IRS garnishes wages after there's a judgement against you. If you don't file, how do they do a judgement against you? I'm asking because I honestly don't know how it works. I'm one of those suckers who actually pays taxes.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (0LHZx)
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WEll, it's like this - I've heard:
you get a regular, menial gig, something on paper - go ahead and file, reporting your income from that, & etc, if you feel moved to do so, but know that people do and have and will go DECADES without filing a return.
Now, if you should happen to have hobbies that involve other hobbyists, and some money changes hands, well, the paperwork is so freakin' complicated, and so it's probably safest to just not burden the IRS with trying to help you figure it out.
Or if you've got a cash-business (I've got a laundromat) you should know that you need to be very careful reporting to the IRS, because they are relying on you to provide accurate information.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (0LHZx)
***
WEll, it's like this - I've heard:
you get a regular, menial gig, something on paper - go ahead and file, reporting your income from that, & etc, if you feel moved to do so, but know that people do and have and will go DECADES without filing a return.
Now, if you should happen to have hobbies that involve other hobbyists, and some money changes hands, well, the paperwork is so freakin' complicated, and so it's probably safest to just not burden the IRS with trying to help you figure it out.
Or if you've got a cash-business (I've got a laundromat) you should know that you need to be very careful reporting to the IRS, because they are relying on you to provide accurate information.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 05, 2016 02:04 PM (lutOX)
453
Once your filing (or lack thereof) trips the automated system, an automated letter goes out to every bank that has your SSN on record, seizing your assets. You won't now about it until your ATM balance is zero.
They still need a court order to do that.
Once your filing (or lack thereof) trips the automated system, an automated letter goes out to every bank that has your SSN on record, seizing your assets. You won't now about it until your ATM balance is zero.
They still need a court order to do that.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 05, 2016 02:04 PM (lKyWE)
454
"Any armed resurrection would be immediately and positively put down by the government"
I wouldn't be too sure about that.
I wouldn't be too sure about that.
Posted by: Frank Franco at July 05, 2016 02:04 PM (oKE6c)
455
"Any armed resurrection would be immediately and positively put down by the government"
Me either.
Me either.
Posted by: Augie Pinochet at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (oKE6c)
456
@453 But if you Cloward Piven the system...
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (k8tEg)
457
138 Posted by: ScottJ at July 05, 2016 01:14 PM (kEFn+)
Really? Did you observe Trump compromising National Security? Or lying about the dead in front of their coffins?
Really? Did you observe Trump compromising National Security? Or lying about the dead in front of their coffins?
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (zBwYh)
458
Goddamned undercaffeinated fingers. Partial sock totally ruined that joke.
It should have been "Fightin' Jesus" expressing dismay at the thought of "armed resurrection" no longer being plausible.
It should have been "Fightin' Jesus" expressing dismay at the thought of "armed resurrection" no longer being plausible.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (noWW6)
459
"I think the fix in with the repuke convention too."
I think the fix was in with the R primary. Didn't matter. God showed Trump how to beat the fix.
The fix-is-in "until and unless" rats-leave-a-sinking-ship comes into play. Hillary is over if she is forced into a hospital. One of her campaign symbols foreshadows this.
Could happen any day.
I think the fix was in with the R primary. Didn't matter. God showed Trump how to beat the fix.
The fix-is-in "until and unless" rats-leave-a-sinking-ship comes into play. Hillary is over if she is forced into a hospital. One of her campaign symbols foreshadows this.
Could happen any day.
Posted by: Ok at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (jN+3o)
460
447 Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 02:03 PM (/tuJf)
Horsefuck.
I want my ten grand or so back from those three campaigns then tiger.
I liked Dole just thought he belonged in the Senate as he is a squish.
I hate McCain almost as much as Grammy.
I was "meh" to Mittens.
I max donated all three, can I have my money back if I was REALLY "never moderate?"
Horsefuck.
I want my ten grand or so back from those three campaigns then tiger.
I liked Dole just thought he belonged in the Senate as he is a squish.
I hate McCain almost as much as Grammy.
I was "meh" to Mittens.
I max donated all three, can I have my money back if I was REALLY "never moderate?"
Posted by: sven10077 at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (SzZnW)
461
The IRS garnishes wages after there's a judgement against you. If you don't file, how do they do a judgement against you? I'm asking because I honestly don't know how it works. I'm one of those suckers who actually pays taxes.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
I'm dealing with a situation where the IRS belives I owe them like $40,000.
It's a simple mistake on their part, the most cut and dry situation you have ever seen, any person looking at the return would fix it in 2 seconds and they still can't seem to figure it out despite my CPA and I addressing it.
My point is, this is basically from an issue 3 years ago and absolutely nothing has been done except threatening letters.
They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
I'm dealing with a situation where the IRS belives I owe them like $40,000.
It's a simple mistake on their part, the most cut and dry situation you have ever seen, any person looking at the return would fix it in 2 seconds and they still can't seem to figure it out despite my CPA and I addressing it.
My point is, this is basically from an issue 3 years ago and absolutely nothing has been done except threatening letters.
They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (Jzg4b)
462
The IRS garnishes wages after there's a judgement against you. If you don't file, how do they do a judgement against you? I'm asking because I honestly don't know how it works. I'm one of those suckers who actually pays taxes.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (0LHZx)
Courts do judgements. In certain cases, judgements can be made into garnishments (bankruptcy issues, etc.) by court order.
The IRS does't need that hassle, thanks to regulatory magic!
Case in point: Structuring. No court. No charges. No notice. No investigation. No indication of a crime. Your bank (unknown to you) files a report that shows more than one, regular deposit of less than $10,000. The IRS flags it for a structuring violation, immediately seizes the account (and possibly other accounts) and there is never a court date unless you borrow money to try to sue them to get your money back.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (0LHZx)
Courts do judgements. In certain cases, judgements can be made into garnishments (bankruptcy issues, etc.) by court order.
The IRS does't need that hassle, thanks to regulatory magic!
Case in point: Structuring. No court. No charges. No notice. No investigation. No indication of a crime. Your bank (unknown to you) files a report that shows more than one, regular deposit of less than $10,000. The IRS flags it for a structuring violation, immediately seizes the account (and possibly other accounts) and there is never a court date unless you borrow money to try to sue them to get your money back.
Posted by: Damiano at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (71OEY)
463
Monsieur Moo Moo, from the experience of others I know, they garnish the maximum you would owe, based on the information on you that they have. It is then on you to get whatever you paid over what you should have, back.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (FQKBL)
464
OJ jurors could have watched a tape of OJ killing them, followed by another tape of him saying "damn right I killed the bitch and I'd do it 100 times again" and still he would have been set free. It wasn't about stupid or gullible jurors or Marcia Clark or Furhman. It was about black people saying fuck off whitey.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (0LHZx)
465
463 Monsieur Moo Moo, from the experience of others I know, they garnish the maximum you would owe, based on the information on you that they have. It is then on you to get whatever you paid over what you should have, back.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (FQKBL)
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Yeah that makes sense.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (FQKBL)
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Yeah that makes sense.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:06 PM (0LHZx)
466
Really? Did you observe Trump compromising National Security? Or lying about the dead in front of their coffins?
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (zBwYh)
he did because his is a troll
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (zBwYh)
he did because his is a troll
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:06 PM (zp+j1)
467
Hey lets give "impartial" investigators the authority to put people on secret lists that would deny them gun ownership! What could go wrong?
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 05, 2016 02:07 PM (k8tEg)
468
I just checked Billy Kristol's Twitter feed.
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Thanks for reminding me, gotta delete my Twitter bookmark, too.
No more Drudge, Powerline, or Fox News -- I just can't stand to watch the funeral. Gonna lay off RealClearPolitics for a few weeks, too.
I just checked Billy Kristol's Twitter feed.
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Thanks for reminding me, gotta delete my Twitter bookmark, too.
No more Drudge, Powerline, or Fox News -- I just can't stand to watch the funeral. Gonna lay off RealClearPolitics for a few weeks, too.
Posted by: iforgot at July 05, 2016 02:07 PM (pC96u)
469
The IRS garnishes wages after there's a judgement against you. If you don't file, how do they do a judgement against you? I'm asking because I honestly don't know how it works. I'm one of those suckers who actually pays taxes.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (0LHZx)
If your tax return doesn't show up after showing up for years, you will get a letter, which is the start of it. Since you are late filing, you have already incurred a penalty.
And so it begins.
Don't forget, the IRS is in charge of regulating the Obamacare exchange supplemental you can be eligible to receive. And you must now declare and provide the ID # of your qualifying insurance plan regardless of whether it is from work or from and exchange. The IRS wants to make sure that if you are in a plan that provides more benefits than the poor person in the ghetto neighborhood who get's theirs for free, that you are paying taxes on the "extra benefit".
The IRS will find you. Don't believe the stuff about how if you don't file , they don't know where you are, LOL.
Only Hillary has lost emails. The FBI can only lose a terrorist's wife after she helps him shoot up a night club.
They will not lose you.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 01:57 PM (0LHZx)
If your tax return doesn't show up after showing up for years, you will get a letter, which is the start of it. Since you are late filing, you have already incurred a penalty.
And so it begins.
Don't forget, the IRS is in charge of regulating the Obamacare exchange supplemental you can be eligible to receive. And you must now declare and provide the ID # of your qualifying insurance plan regardless of whether it is from work or from and exchange. The IRS wants to make sure that if you are in a plan that provides more benefits than the poor person in the ghetto neighborhood who get's theirs for free, that you are paying taxes on the "extra benefit".
The IRS will find you. Don't believe the stuff about how if you don't file , they don't know where you are, LOL.
Only Hillary has lost emails. The FBI can only lose a terrorist's wife after she helps him shoot up a night club.
They will not lose you.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 05, 2016 02:07 PM (HbTvc)
470
OT, but some good news from Switzerland...the bastion of common sense in Europe. They had two teenage Muslim girls applying for citizenship but refusing to cooperate with school regulations about swimming lessons with the boys (they wanted a separate girls only pool or something)
How do you swim in a full hefty bag?
How do you swim in a full hefty bag?
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:07 PM (Oy2Ew)
471
"Any armed resurrection would be immediately and positively put down by the government"
No indeed.
No indeed.
Posted by: Suharto at July 05, 2016 02:07 PM (oKE6c)
472
>>I max donated all three, can I have my money back if I was REALLY "never moderate?"
Did I say you Sven? No, I didn't. I said some people
Are you going to pretend that everyone rallied around McCain and Romney because that would be ludicrous. Some are still bashing away on them.
Did I say you Sven? No, I didn't. I said some people
Are you going to pretend that everyone rallied around McCain and Romney because that would be ludicrous. Some are still bashing away on them.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 02:07 PM (/tuJf)
473
Another OT - but I wanted to share this post with the group. This friend of mine is a Muslim, in Malaysia and very vocal about ISIS and Islam. I am expecting a fatwa on him pretty soon.
"Its about time that we Muslims accept the fact that something has
really gone, very very wrong in the understanding and interpretation of
Al Quran. We have to stop taking the easy way out by blaming everything
on US, Jews, Israel and Christians conspiracy. We cannot justify anymore
that the violent and barbaric act of bombing innocent civilians are a
direct repercussion of what is happening in Palestine.
Its about
time that we Muslims realise that we, only we, are the cause of all the
misery now. Its because we were not united in halting the progress of
ISIS ideology. This problem is not a Middle East problem anymore. It is
not confined to the Arabs anymore. When a Malaysian, who grew up
surrounded by Muslims and non Muslims in harmony, who could get
influenced manipulated to the extent of becoming a suicide bomber, then
something is really wrong.
We have to stop looking for a
scapegoat and start looking at ourselves. Where have we gone wrong? Is
it because of the Arabisation of our culture and lifestyle? Is it
because we have been overly fanatic and obsessed with self claimed
scholars, mullahs, imams, mufti and ustaz that we fail to use our brains
to differentiate between right and wrong? Is it because, we allowed
these people to creep in, spread their ideology and influence our people
in the name of Islam? Is it because we were greedy and selfish for
political power and position that we encouraged extremism?
Lets
mirror ourselves. It may be a bitter pill to swallow, but we have to
admit it that we have diverted too far away from the real teaching of
Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. It looks like we are using Islam, Al Quran and
the Prophet as a tool for power and money. We have been too greedy and
selfish to book our place in heaven to the extent of indirectly doing
everything forbidden in Islam. Say what you want. It doesnt make
sense to claim that Islam is a peaceful religion when its followers are
the exact opposite. How we can claim Islam is a loving religion when
its followers keep killing innocent lives. If our Islamic scholars in
Malaysia thinks that ISIS does not represent the true Islam, then come
out and say it. Issue a fatwa. Let it be clear that we are against it.
Instead of being busy with cinemas, political parties, women's boobs and
legs and other petty things"
"Its about time that we Muslims accept the fact that something has
really gone, very very wrong in the understanding and interpretation of
Al Quran. We have to stop taking the easy way out by blaming everything
on US, Jews, Israel and Christians conspiracy. We cannot justify anymore
that the violent and barbaric act of bombing innocent civilians are a
direct repercussion of what is happening in Palestine.
Its about
time that we Muslims realise that we, only we, are the cause of all the
misery now. Its because we were not united in halting the progress of
ISIS ideology. This problem is not a Middle East problem anymore. It is
not confined to the Arabs anymore. When a Malaysian, who grew up
surrounded by Muslims and non Muslims in harmony, who could get
influenced manipulated to the extent of becoming a suicide bomber, then
something is really wrong.
We have to stop looking for a
scapegoat and start looking at ourselves. Where have we gone wrong? Is
it because of the Arabisation of our culture and lifestyle? Is it
because we have been overly fanatic and obsessed with self claimed
scholars, mullahs, imams, mufti and ustaz that we fail to use our brains
to differentiate between right and wrong? Is it because, we allowed
these people to creep in, spread their ideology and influence our people
in the name of Islam? Is it because we were greedy and selfish for
political power and position that we encouraged extremism?
Lets
mirror ourselves. It may be a bitter pill to swallow, but we have to
admit it that we have diverted too far away from the real teaching of
Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. It looks like we are using Islam, Al Quran and
the Prophet as a tool for power and money. We have been too greedy and
selfish to book our place in heaven to the extent of indirectly doing
everything forbidden in Islam. Say what you want. It doesnt make
sense to claim that Islam is a peaceful religion when its followers are
the exact opposite. How we can claim Islam is a loving religion when
its followers keep killing innocent lives. If our Islamic scholars in
Malaysia thinks that ISIS does not represent the true Islam, then come
out and say it. Issue a fatwa. Let it be clear that we are against it.
Instead of being busy with cinemas, political parties, women's boobs and
legs and other petty things"
Posted by: IC at July 05, 2016 02:07 PM (a0IVu)
474
Damian, your posts are absolutely correct. Do you think we just slow grind into mass starvation via the socialization of our country or do we act, in your opinion? My opinion is when the economic collapse that seems baked in occurs, the ebt crowd will riot leading potentially to fed military action domestically, then the larger population uses the ensuing chaos to begin CWII.
Posted by: Mike at July 05, 2016 02:08 PM (YaTC9)
475
380 Re: private school Feel your pain...But , if you lived in what was becoming(rapidly) a very very unsafe ghetto, no doubt you would find a way, painful as it may be to find a new job, etc, to move to a safe place--for the sake of your kids..
The Dem pub schools are RUINING our kids....time to move where parochial or private schools ARE affordable..eg the Deep South.
The Dem pub schools are RUINING our kids....time to move where parochial or private schools ARE affordable..eg the Deep South.
Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at July 05, 2016 02:08 PM (713RE)
476
How do you swim in a full hefty bag?
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:07 PM (Oy2Ew)
With two cinder blocks as water wings.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:07 PM (Oy2Ew)
With two cinder blocks as water wings.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:08 PM (oKE6c)
477
MiFB
Posted by: Just the Punchline at July 05, 2016 02:08 PM (evdj2)
478
' So how do they garnish my wages based on a figure that is unknown?'
They don't need your tax return. They have all the information they need; the tax return is just a mass market perjury trap.
If you don't file, they just make the worse case assumptions on deductions and dependents (even thought they have the correct information) and assess it against you.
The only way to get around it is to work for cash or own a cash based business. And, then stay small enough that they don't have the time to get around to you.
They don't need your tax return. They have all the information they need; the tax return is just a mass market perjury trap.
If you don't file, they just make the worse case assumptions on deductions and dependents (even thought they have the correct information) and assess it against you.
The only way to get around it is to work for cash or own a cash based business. And, then stay small enough that they don't have the time to get around to you.
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2016 02:08 PM (Doh4+)
479
Fine they know I made $X. But they don't know if that means I owe $Z in
taxes or $0 in taxes. Hell maybe I qualify for EITC and they owe me
money. My point is without me filing a tax return, they don't know what I
owe. So how do they garnish my wages based on a figure that is unknown?>>>
They may not know but they also don't care. If you don't file they will "guesstamate" a return for you and take what they think they are owed. Then You can petition them to give the money they took back. The system is rigged.
taxes or $0 in taxes. Hell maybe I qualify for EITC and they owe me
money. My point is without me filing a tax return, they don't know what I
owe. So how do they garnish my wages based on a figure that is unknown?>>>
They may not know but they also don't care. If you don't file they will "guesstamate" a return for you and take what they think they are owed. Then You can petition them to give the money they took back. The system is rigged.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 05, 2016 02:08 PM (tf9Ne)
480
dammit, sock fail, yet oddly appropriate.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at July 05, 2016 02:08 PM (evdj2)
481
Don't give the criminals a danm thing the last 8years. Glad to see me and a feq others were just ahead of the curve. Broke and branded as lazy, but vindicated and ahead of the curve.
Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 05, 2016 02:09 PM (nhgiS)
482
My point is, this is basically from an issue 3 years ago and absolutely nothing has been done except threatening letters.
They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (Jzg4b)
____
I've suspected this as well. At the end of the day they are govt employees, ie lazy, incompetent and looking to do the least amount of work. What's easier? Send a letter or start legal proceedings?
They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (Jzg4b)
____
I've suspected this as well. At the end of the day they are govt employees, ie lazy, incompetent and looking to do the least amount of work. What's easier? Send a letter or start legal proceedings?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:09 PM (0LHZx)
483
My point is, this is basically from an issue 3 years ago and absolutely nothing has been done except threatening letters.
They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
Posted by: Kale
As the interest clock keeps adding up.
They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
Posted by: Kale
As the interest clock keeps adding up.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:09 PM (Oy2Ew)
484
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 05, 2016 02:04 PM (lKyWE)
***
Heh. My business has a bank account.... Of course, I'm the one who has to make the weekly cash deposits.....
I do not have a personal account. I've been 'unbanked' for almost 5 years now. quite freeing, really.
***
Heh. My business has a bank account.... Of course, I'm the one who has to make the weekly cash deposits.....
I do not have a personal account. I've been 'unbanked' for almost 5 years now. quite freeing, really.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 05, 2016 02:09 PM (lutOX)
485
Now is not the time to trash Trump but just because Hillary skates and the FBI is compromised doesn't make Trump's negatives disappear. They just look better by comparison.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 05, 2016 02:10 PM (Vi3+d)
486
472 Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 02:07 PM (/tuJf)
I was here for Juan Queeg I was one of the people whipping for MAVERICK!, I do not recall any anger at Mitt other than "punch Giggles you c**ks**ker"
It doesn't matter, this racer is my last.
"The sane GOP" has no interest in stopping the marxists so I will hide amongst the marxists.
They get to commit felonies that bother "sane GOPers" less than Trump's gauchery....
it is good to be a donk ass motherfucker.
I was here for Juan Queeg I was one of the people whipping for MAVERICK!, I do not recall any anger at Mitt other than "punch Giggles you c**ks**ker"
It doesn't matter, this racer is my last.
"The sane GOP" has no interest in stopping the marxists so I will hide amongst the marxists.
They get to commit felonies that bother "sane GOPers" less than Trump's gauchery....
it is good to be a donk ass motherfucker.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 05, 2016 02:10 PM (SzZnW)
487
Fine they know I made $X. But they don't know if that means I owe $Z in taxes or $0 in taxes. Hell maybe I qualify for EITC and they owe me money. My point is without me filing a tax return, they don't know what I owe. So how do they garnish my wages based on a figure that is unknown?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:01 PM (0LHZx)
Since you didn't file, you are presumed to owe the max and it is up to you to prove otherwise.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:01 PM (0LHZx)
Since you didn't file, you are presumed to owe the max and it is up to you to prove otherwise.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 05, 2016 02:11 PM (HbTvc)
488
Fucking goddamned FBI, eunuch GOP, and moron Never Trumpers ensure we are going to be looking UP at Caligula in a year.
"Grammy can't get proseucted for "accidentally" undermining national security but she promises prosecuting AGW "deniers."
Fuck this place I want out."
Can't disagree with this sentiment but where you gonna go?
Is Gilligan's Island still available?
"Grammy can't get proseucted for "accidentally" undermining national security but she promises prosecuting AGW "deniers."
Fuck this place I want out."
Can't disagree with this sentiment but where you gonna go?
Is Gilligan's Island still available?
Posted by: StrawMan at July 05, 2016 02:11 PM (gRZfJ)
489
The big problem is with-holding, a practice more wicked than the federal income tax itself.
Sure, you can jack up your exemptions to reduce your withheld taxes, but you can only go so far with that before you run into penalties for underpayment --- with interest.
So those who are not self-employed cannot do a tax revolt.
All you can do is try to help the self-employed by paying them in cash. (No wonder the feds want to eliminate IRL money!)
You may also try earning less.
Sure, you can jack up your exemptions to reduce your withheld taxes, but you can only go so far with that before you run into penalties for underpayment --- with interest.
So those who are not self-employed cannot do a tax revolt.
All you can do is try to help the self-employed by paying them in cash. (No wonder the feds want to eliminate IRL money!)
You may also try earning less.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 05, 2016 02:12 PM (T/5A0)
490
Fuck this place I want out."
Can't disagree with this sentiment but where you gonna go?
Is Gilligan's Island still available?
Posted by: StrawMan at July 05, 2016 02:11 PM (gRZfJ)
Svalbard, Norway is an option. Cold as hell, but thanks to a 1920 treaty, Americans have the right to visit and live there.
Can't disagree with this sentiment but where you gonna go?
Is Gilligan's Island still available?
Posted by: StrawMan at July 05, 2016 02:11 PM (gRZfJ)
Svalbard, Norway is an option. Cold as hell, but thanks to a 1920 treaty, Americans have the right to visit and live there.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:12 PM (HalrA)
491
485 Now is not the time to trash Trump but just because Hillary skates and the FBI is compromised doesn't make Trump's negatives disappear. They just look better by comparison.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 05, 2016 02:10 PM (Vi3+d)
FFS, would you stop this shit? It's Trump or Hillary - can you get that through your skull? There is no fucking third choice.
Sheesh.
Sorry. I was gone, but now I'm back.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 05, 2016 02:10 PM (Vi3+d)
FFS, would you stop this shit? It's Trump or Hillary - can you get that through your skull? There is no fucking third choice.
Sheesh.
Sorry. I was gone, but now I'm back.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:12 PM (oKE6c)
492
"It wasn't about stupid or gullible jurors or Marcia Clark or Furhman."
Let's not forget that legal genius Judge Ito.
"It was about black people saying fuck off whitey."
Will always remember one of the black jurors leaving the box and turning to flash a black-power salute to the acquitted O.J., an action not well reported for some reason in the snooze media.
Let's not forget that legal genius Judge Ito.
"It was about black people saying fuck off whitey."
Will always remember one of the black jurors leaving the box and turning to flash a black-power salute to the acquitted O.J., an action not well reported for some reason in the snooze media.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 05, 2016 02:12 PM (noWW6)
493
>>They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
They are Public Employees.
Nothing can motivate them to do their jobs, let alone do their jobs well.
They are Public Employees.
Nothing can motivate them to do their jobs, let alone do their jobs well.
Posted by: garrett at July 05, 2016 02:12 PM (ZVWnB)
494
Are you going to pretend that everyone rallied around McCain and Romney because that would be ludicrous. Some are still bashing away on them.
Posted by: JackStraw
Thanks for covering for us. it's as if those peasants actually WANTED me to build the dang fence, or respect the primaries.
Posted by: JackStraw
Thanks for covering for us. it's as if those peasants actually WANTED me to build the dang fence, or respect the primaries.
Posted by: Mitt at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (326rv)
495
488 Posted by: StrawMan at July 05, 2016 02:11 PM (gRZfJ)
I am thinking I am going north.
My heart rate was 15 beats slower a minute I was so calm in Alberta this weekend.
Yes they are openly socialist they are less communist than we are heading amigo.
I am thinking I am going north.
My heart rate was 15 beats slower a minute I was so calm in Alberta this weekend.
Yes they are openly socialist they are less communist than we are heading amigo.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (SzZnW)
496
The problem I have is that even if Trump wins and puts, I dunno Giuliani in as attorney general, Hillary still walks. Because Don's as willing to take a bribe to look the other way as anyone. And that's just frustrating to me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)
497
Well if we're lucky the property funds in the UK which have suspended redemptions and/or trading will be the first step to the next collapse like the Bear Sterns funds were in 2007/8.
But arm up either way.
But arm up either way.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (oO+cT)
498
My point is, this is basically from an issue 3 years ago and absolutely nothing has been done except threatening letters.
They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
Posted by: Kale
As the interest clock keeps adding up.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT
I'll "win" the case and all interest charges will be voided, I just haven't lawyered up yet because it's still in the back and forth stage.
But my main point is, if millions engaged in this as a protest, the US government would be sunk overnight.
My tax return was not a protest, but in the IRS eyes I basically didn't pay taxes for an entire year and they haven't done shit besides send letters.
If anything, the whole experience makes me "push the envelope" at tax time even more because you see how clueless they really are.
They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
Posted by: Kale
As the interest clock keeps adding up.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT
I'll "win" the case and all interest charges will be voided, I just haven't lawyered up yet because it's still in the back and forth stage.
But my main point is, if millions engaged in this as a protest, the US government would be sunk overnight.
My tax return was not a protest, but in the IRS eyes I basically didn't pay taxes for an entire year and they haven't done shit besides send letters.
If anything, the whole experience makes me "push the envelope" at tax time even more because you see how clueless they really are.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (Jzg4b)
499
Now is not the time to trash Trump but just because Hillary skates and the FBI is compromised doesn't make Trump's negatives disappear. They just look better by comparison.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 05, 2016 02:10 PM (Vi3+d)
------------------------
Kudos on the deft Trump trashing!
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 05, 2016 02:10 PM (Vi3+d)
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Kudos on the deft Trump trashing!
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (NUqwG)
500
Iceland has been importing a low of immigrants lately. They have a decent soccer team, Bjork and awesome clubs. And the muzzy population is 0.0X
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (0LHZx)
501
>>Thanks for covering for us. it's as if those peasants actually WANTED me to build the dang fence, or respect the primaries.
Thanks for making my case, Blue Hen.
Thanks for making my case, Blue Hen.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 02:14 PM (/tuJf)
502
412 OT, but some good news from Switzerland...the bastion of common sense in Europe. They had two teenage Muslim girls applying for citizenship but refusing to cooperate with school regulations about swimming lessons with the boys (they wanted a separate girls only pool or something) so the government promptly denied their citizenship request.
______________
The Swiss have never been as stupid as the rest of Europe.
They didn't join the EU. And they have mandatory gun ownership/training for Swiss men.
______________
The Swiss have never been as stupid as the rest of Europe.
They didn't join the EU. And they have mandatory gun ownership/training for Swiss men.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 05, 2016 02:14 PM (NnYnv)
503
Trying to figure out how to not intentionally not pay my taxes.....
Posted by: Wesley Snipes at July 05, 2016 02:14 PM (W2Rcw)
504
>>> Is Gilligan's Island still available?
Yes, but they aren't accepting immigrants at this time.
The moose out front will tell you when you arrive.
Yes, but they aren't accepting immigrants at this time.
The moose out front will tell you when you arrive.
Posted by: IP at July 05, 2016 02:14 PM (Fol9S)
505
496 The problem I have is that even if Trump wins and puts, I dunno Giuliani in as attorney general, Hillary still walks. Because Don's as willing to take a bribe to look the other way as anyone. And that's just frustrating to me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)
That's long on assumption and short on actual substance.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)
That's long on assumption and short on actual substance.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:14 PM (HalrA)
506
490 Fuck this place I want out."
Can't disagree with this sentiment but where you gonna go?
Is Gilligan's Island still available?
Posted by: StrawMan at July 05, 2016 02:11 PM (gRZfJ)
Svalbard, Norway is an option. Cold as hell, but thanks to a 1920 treaty, Americans have the right to visit and live there.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:12 PM (HalrA)
What does one do in Svalbard? Is there enough room and jobs for several dozen disgruntled Morons?
Can't disagree with this sentiment but where you gonna go?
Is Gilligan's Island still available?
Posted by: StrawMan at July 05, 2016 02:11 PM (gRZfJ)
Svalbard, Norway is an option. Cold as hell, but thanks to a 1920 treaty, Americans have the right to visit and live there.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:12 PM (HalrA)
What does one do in Svalbard? Is there enough room and jobs for several dozen disgruntled Morons?
Posted by: StrawMan at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (gRZfJ)
507
Are you going to pretend that everyone rallied around McCain and Romney because that would be ludicrous. Some are still bashing away on them.
Posted by: JackStraw
Why anyone would bash winning guys that supported their base is a mystery.
Posted by: JackStraw
Why anyone would bash winning guys that supported their base is a mystery.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (326rv)
508
496 The problem I have is that even if Trump wins and puts, I dunno Giuliani in as attorney general, Hillary still walks. Because Don's as willing to take a bribe to look the other way as anyone. And that's just frustrating to me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)
There's a good reason for the next Administration not to prosecute her: it smacks of banana republic payback, and thereby sets a bad precedent.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)
There's a good reason for the next Administration not to prosecute her: it smacks of banana republic payback, and thereby sets a bad precedent.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (oKE6c)
509
So, "I will never vote for a RINO again!" has morphed into "I will stand by Trump, no matter what he ever did or said or will ever do or say".
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (2cS/G)
510
There is no way Hillary does yoga
Posted by: Yo! at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (GwIKd)
511
This isn't 1862, the age of telegraph and written letters, cannons and no electricity. Any armed resurrection would be immediately and positively put down by the government, and by the Army, National Guard, and local Law enforcement. Who are far better equipped than any of us.
The best any of us can do is to try to right some of the wrongs through a convention and through the ballot box. Keep trying to work at the local level as much as possible, just as the left did and has done successfully for 50 years. Try to educate young people.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 05, 2016 01:55 PM (HbTvc)
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There is a good chance that 50% of the U.S. military would defect in any serious constitutional crisis involving something like guns for example. Right now according to the polls Hillary's approval rating with the military is awful. Plus if you throw in how the military in general has been treated by the left over 50 plus years, the VA, just being one example, etc., then that situation becomes even more likely.
So at the least you will have a 50-50 split in the military. If you add to that local law enforcement sympathies varies depending on the part of the country you live it changes the calculus even more. Then we throw in resources like water, food supplies, possession of strategic areas, then the likelihood of a "red" insurrection actually winning, or succeeding in breaking away, goes up even more.
Now the key is the situation needs to be of an important constitutional nature of fundamental importance. Not a wildlife refuge and some guys cattle herd. You would need a useful PR disaster for the progressives and if Hillary wins then we will get one considering she is not exactly thinking straight anymore.
Obama knew when to back down from a "red line" and use other methods, Hillary not so much.
Once again...it only take 33% of the country wanting to roll to reach critical mass. The middle of the road fence sitters are useless people...unlikely to help either side. They will complain, but that is it.
It will be more like the Roman Civil Wars of the late Republic with drones, lasers, rail guns, and even nukes. Not pretty stuff, but never the less a legions vs. legions situation.
The best any of us can do is to try to right some of the wrongs through a convention and through the ballot box. Keep trying to work at the local level as much as possible, just as the left did and has done successfully for 50 years. Try to educate young people.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 05, 2016 01:55 PM (HbTvc)
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There is a good chance that 50% of the U.S. military would defect in any serious constitutional crisis involving something like guns for example. Right now according to the polls Hillary's approval rating with the military is awful. Plus if you throw in how the military in general has been treated by the left over 50 plus years, the VA, just being one example, etc., then that situation becomes even more likely.
So at the least you will have a 50-50 split in the military. If you add to that local law enforcement sympathies varies depending on the part of the country you live it changes the calculus even more. Then we throw in resources like water, food supplies, possession of strategic areas, then the likelihood of a "red" insurrection actually winning, or succeeding in breaking away, goes up even more.
Now the key is the situation needs to be of an important constitutional nature of fundamental importance. Not a wildlife refuge and some guys cattle herd. You would need a useful PR disaster for the progressives and if Hillary wins then we will get one considering she is not exactly thinking straight anymore.
Obama knew when to back down from a "red line" and use other methods, Hillary not so much.
Once again...it only take 33% of the country wanting to roll to reach critical mass. The middle of the road fence sitters are useless people...unlikely to help either side. They will complain, but that is it.
It will be more like the Roman Civil Wars of the late Republic with drones, lasers, rail guns, and even nukes. Not pretty stuff, but never the less a legions vs. legions situation.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (KhJh8)
512
"But if you Cloward Piven the system..."
You don't get your daily latte.
Only true believers (communist) believed in Cloward Piven. At some point the people with the most-to-lose will start pulling strings.
I have to think that the Bush dynasty and the Kennedy dynasty, and the Boston Brahmas and all the Blue Bloods in EU are starting to get worried.
Putin can release stuff that would totally stop competent people from getting up early and going to work everyday. When the competent people stop making surplus wealth is when the s*it hits the fan.
Think when the Hunt brothers tried to corner the silver market. That plan worked similar to Cloward Piven.
You don't get your daily latte.
Only true believers (communist) believed in Cloward Piven. At some point the people with the most-to-lose will start pulling strings.
I have to think that the Bush dynasty and the Kennedy dynasty, and the Boston Brahmas and all the Blue Bloods in EU are starting to get worried.
Putin can release stuff that would totally stop competent people from getting up early and going to work everyday. When the competent people stop making surplus wealth is when the s*it hits the fan.
Think when the Hunt brothers tried to corner the silver market. That plan worked similar to Cloward Piven.
Posted by: Ok at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (jN+3o)
513
"I never expected her to be indicted. I also dont expect her to stop being above the law. I just find her less scary than Trump. Sorry.
*Red State EiC."
Just the sort of nonsense you would expect to hear from the silly twats at Redstate.com. If Hillary is elected the United States will be DONE as a Constitutional republic. What in the blue fuck is scarier than that?
"I never expected her to be indicted. I also dont expect her to stop being above the law. I just find her less scary than Trump. Sorry.
*Red State EiC."
Just the sort of nonsense you would expect to hear from the silly twats at Redstate.com. If Hillary is elected the United States will be DONE as a Constitutional republic. What in the blue fuck is scarier than that?
Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (DDM7c)
514
I remember the OJ verdict. I was in college and my roommate and I were home watching it. And when it was announced both of us just sat there for 30-60 seconds in stunned silence, thinking, we both didn't just hear that did we?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (0LHZx)
515
Thanks for covering for us. it's as if those peasants actually WANTED me to build the dang fence, or respect the primaries.
Thanks for making my case, Blue Hen.
Posted by: JackStraw
And thanks heaps for making mine.
Thanks for making my case, Blue Hen.
Posted by: JackStraw
And thanks heaps for making mine.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (326rv)
516
The Swiss have never been as stupid as the rest of Europe.
They didn't join the EU. And they have mandatory gun ownership/training for Swiss men.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 05, 2016 02:14 PM (NnYnv)
Stupid or smart, the Swiss have always been interested in only one thing: THE SWISS
They didn't join the EU. And they have mandatory gun ownership/training for Swiss men.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 05, 2016 02:14 PM (NnYnv)
Stupid or smart, the Swiss have always been interested in only one thing: THE SWISS
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (zp+j1)
517
Now is not the time to trash Trump but...
You're going to do it anyway when you could have quit while you're ahead.
You're going to do it anyway when you could have quit while you're ahead.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (39g3+)
518
There's a good reason for the next
Administration not to prosecute her: it smacks of banana republic
payback, and thereby sets a bad precedent.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (oKE6c)
Fuck it, we're already there. I want to see payback.
There's a good reason for the next
Administration not to prosecute her: it smacks of banana republic
payback, and thereby sets a bad precedent.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (oKE6c)
Fuck it, we're already there. I want to see payback.
Posted by: Colorado Alex - Fuck it, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (LUG6K)
519
I remember the OJ verdict. I was in college and my roommate and I were home watching it. And when it was announced both of us just sat there for 30-60 seconds in stunned silence, thinking, we both didn't just hear that did we?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (0LHZx)
You are younger than I thought you were.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (0LHZx)
You are younger than I thought you were.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (gmeXX)
520
I'm dealing with a situation where the IRS belives I owe them like $40,000.
It's a simple mistake on their part, the most cut and dry situation you have ever seen, any person looking at the return would fix it in 2 seconds and they still can't seem to figure it out despite my CPA and I addressing it.
My point is, this is basically from an issue 3 years ago and absolutely nothing has been done except threatening letters.
They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
Posted by: Kale
Ive been dealing $90K error on their part for almost a decade. I need to get into plumbing for cash.
It's a simple mistake on their part, the most cut and dry situation you have ever seen, any person looking at the return would fix it in 2 seconds and they still can't seem to figure it out despite my CPA and I addressing it.
My point is, this is basically from an issue 3 years ago and absolutely nothing has been done except threatening letters.
They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
Posted by: Kale
Ive been dealing $90K error on their part for almost a decade. I need to get into plumbing for cash.
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2016 02:17 PM (Doh4+)
521
I remember the OJ verdict. I was in college and my roommate and I were home watching it. And when it was announced both of us just sat there for 30-60 seconds in stunned silence, thinking, we both didn't just hear that did we?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (0LHZx)
You are younger than I thought you were.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (gmeXX)
Just an observation.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (0LHZx)
You are younger than I thought you were.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (gmeXX)
Just an observation.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 02:17 PM (gmeXX)
522
509 Posted by: Lincolntf at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (2cS/G)
Nominate Washington/Marion 2020 I don't give a fuck.
Never Trumpers who put this 16,000 felony cu*t in office will never get my vote again period.
I feel like a 10,000 ton weight has been moved off my shoulders.
I am finally free.
Nominate Washington/Marion 2020 I don't give a fuck.
Never Trumpers who put this 16,000 felony cu*t in office will never get my vote again period.
I feel like a 10,000 ton weight has been moved off my shoulders.
I am finally free.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 05, 2016 02:17 PM (SzZnW)
523
How many of you are willing to hand out flyers on jury nullification outside your nearest federal courthouse?
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 05, 2016 02:17 PM (77emZ)
524
496 The problem I have is that even if Trump wins and puts, I dunno Giuliani in as attorney general, Hillary still walks. Because Don's as willing to take a bribe to look the other way as anyone. And that's just frustrating to me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)
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OK this makes zero sense. If there's one guy who is most likely to NOT take a bribe it's the billionaire. What would you bribe him with exactly? $1M? $100M? $1B? Seriously, how do you bribe someone that is as rich as he is?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)
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OK this makes zero sense. If there's one guy who is most likely to NOT take a bribe it's the billionaire. What would you bribe him with exactly? $1M? $100M? $1B? Seriously, how do you bribe someone that is as rich as he is?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:17 PM (0LHZx)
525
I still say Isle of Man is a promising escape location.
Posted by: Lauren...TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:17 PM (JQsZt)
526
They didn't join the EU. And they have mandatory gun ownership/training for Swiss men.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 05, 2016 02:14 PM (NnYnv)
IIRC, Switzerland applied to enter the EU, but wasn't accepted for some reason that I don't now recall.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 05, 2016 02:14 PM (NnYnv)
IIRC, Switzerland applied to enter the EU, but wasn't accepted for some reason that I don't now recall.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (oKE6c)
527
It is gratifying to work to support the elites and the illegals, that they have brought here to outnumber us, isn't it?
Posted by: Who Knows at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (XTL3w)
528
You don't get your daily latte.
Only true believers (communist) believed in Cloward Piven.
Yeah, the whole "they're working to create collapse so they win!" thing never was convincing to me. The richest and most powerful have the most to lose in that scenario, and they're the ones in charge.
Only true believers (communist) believed in Cloward Piven.
Yeah, the whole "they're working to create collapse so they win!" thing never was convincing to me. The richest and most powerful have the most to lose in that scenario, and they're the ones in charge.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (39g3+)
529
There's a good reason for the next
Administration not to prosecute her: it smacks of banana republic
payback, and thereby sets a bad precedent.
Posted by: Jay Guevara
I never thought Hillary would actually go to prison, just wanted law enforcement to at least say she broke the law and should be prosecuted.
Administration not to prosecute her: it smacks of banana republic
payback, and thereby sets a bad precedent.
Posted by: Jay Guevara
I never thought Hillary would actually go to prison, just wanted law enforcement to at least say she broke the law and should be prosecuted.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (Jzg4b)
530
Once again...it only take 33% of the country wanting to roll to reach critical mass. The middle of the road fence sitters are useless people...unlikely to help either side. They will complain, but that is it.
It will be more like the Roman Civil Wars of the late Republic with drones, lasers, rail guns, and even nukes. Not pretty stuff, but never the less a legions vs. legions situation.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (KhJh
The enemy will be shot first.
The fence sitters will be shot second.
It will be more like the Roman Civil Wars of the late Republic with drones, lasers, rail guns, and even nukes. Not pretty stuff, but never the less a legions vs. legions situation.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 05, 2016 02:15 PM (KhJh
The enemy will be shot first.
The fence sitters will be shot second.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (oO+cT)
531
You are younger than I thought you were.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (gmeXX)
Just an observation.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 02:17 PM (gmeXX)
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (gmeXX)
Just an observation.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 02:17 PM (gmeXX)
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (0LHZx)
532
The photo of the Two Evils in the article is nightmarish.
The author is correct. With the ruling today there are no laws that cannot be broken by the special ruling class. They smirk, as "what does it matter at this point?"
In the olde days rules did matter. Elected officials, sworn to uphold the law with right hand on the Bible, had a moral duty to do their best in obeying law. Don't like it? Take it up the chain to the Supreme Court. Oh, wait. They are corrupt, too.
In the olde days you sort of "thought," at times, the FBI were looking after the good guys and chasing the bad guys. Now they hesitate to be islamophobes (where is Mateen's wife?).
In the olde days you lost elections but still felt like, well, this is America, it will all work out, etc. After all, we have LAWS.
Now? Either a sign I am an adult or this is far worse in history (corruption of all branches of government) than ever before. Thanks, Romney, for losing the election you dummy. Seven and 1/2 years on the road to hell.
If this does not get some people off the fence to vote Trump, then nothing will. Sad day in American history. But life will go on for most of us. I will not let this defeat me, but boy am I po'd.
The FBI basically called Hilz a stoopid and incompetent dunderhead (yes, great qualifications for Leader of Formerly Free World). Who did not mean to weaken national security or lie under oath.
I just hit that guy, impaled in my front windshield while drunk driving as an illegal. Part of his torso is also on my trunk. But I did not mean bad intent and he did get in my way on the sidewalk. Oops! Guess I broke a few laws. What does it matter anyway?
The author is correct. With the ruling today there are no laws that cannot be broken by the special ruling class. They smirk, as "what does it matter at this point?"
In the olde days rules did matter. Elected officials, sworn to uphold the law with right hand on the Bible, had a moral duty to do their best in obeying law. Don't like it? Take it up the chain to the Supreme Court. Oh, wait. They are corrupt, too.
In the olde days you sort of "thought," at times, the FBI were looking after the good guys and chasing the bad guys. Now they hesitate to be islamophobes (where is Mateen's wife?).
In the olde days you lost elections but still felt like, well, this is America, it will all work out, etc. After all, we have LAWS.
Now? Either a sign I am an adult or this is far worse in history (corruption of all branches of government) than ever before. Thanks, Romney, for losing the election you dummy. Seven and 1/2 years on the road to hell.
If this does not get some people off the fence to vote Trump, then nothing will. Sad day in American history. But life will go on for most of us. I will not let this defeat me, but boy am I po'd.
The FBI basically called Hilz a stoopid and incompetent dunderhead (yes, great qualifications for Leader of Formerly Free World). Who did not mean to weaken national security or lie under oath.
I just hit that guy, impaled in my front windshield while drunk driving as an illegal. Part of his torso is also on my trunk. But I did not mean bad intent and he did get in my way on the sidewalk. Oops! Guess I broke a few laws. What does it matter anyway?
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (pfYik)
533
There is a lot you can do against Leviathan without even sticking your neck out. Some thoughts in no particular order:
1 Stop buying stuff
2 Do only what the government directly compels you to do.
3 Pay in cash with a winkwink
4 Cheat the government whenever possible
5 Steal all your entertainment
6 If you know of tax cheating, keep your mouth shut
7 If called to jury, refuse to convict if the law is unjust
8 Discriminate in all your private dealings, without openly saying so
9 If you see a CoC sticker on a business, go elsewhere
10 Vote against all tax levies, particularly school levies
11 Buy firearms and ammo. It's not simply a just-in-case, it's a good financial investment of small sums when savings are yielding 1/4 of a percent.
Good Citizens are chumps.
They need us more than we need them.
1 Stop buying stuff
2 Do only what the government directly compels you to do.
3 Pay in cash with a winkwink
4 Cheat the government whenever possible
5 Steal all your entertainment
6 If you know of tax cheating, keep your mouth shut
7 If called to jury, refuse to convict if the law is unjust
8 Discriminate in all your private dealings, without openly saying so
9 If you see a CoC sticker on a business, go elsewhere
10 Vote against all tax levies, particularly school levies
11 Buy firearms and ammo. It's not simply a just-in-case, it's a good financial investment of small sums when savings are yielding 1/4 of a percent.
Good Citizens are chumps.
They need us more than we need them.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (evdj2)
534
How many of you are willing to hand out flyers on jury nullification outside your nearest federal courthouse?
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Could be fun to do. It is within my right to do.
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Could be fun to do. It is within my right to do.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill-Yes, back to TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (9ym/8)
536
My point is, this is basically from an issue 3 years ago and absolutely nothing has been done except threatening letters.
They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (Jzg4b)
Here's the rub: The only purpose of threatening letters is so they can forestall the statute of limitations. Ex. You get a nastygram, your CPA responses... they have proof you got the nastygram and the statute of limitations clock is stopped.
Then government laziness and inefficiency kicks in. They might take further action. They might not. Time is on their side. I'm half convinced that someone at the local IRS office has an adding machine and a bucket full of collection cases. Once they add up the minimum required, the rest stay in the bucket till next time.
Now, if you fail to respond, it gives you a statute of limitations defense (What letter? I didn't get no letter!) and they will act before the clock runs out.
It's the IRS version of prioritizing. They will get to you eventually.
They are more toothless than people think, and are also clueless.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:05 PM (Jzg4b)
Here's the rub: The only purpose of threatening letters is so they can forestall the statute of limitations. Ex. You get a nastygram, your CPA responses... they have proof you got the nastygram and the statute of limitations clock is stopped.
Then government laziness and inefficiency kicks in. They might take further action. They might not. Time is on their side. I'm half convinced that someone at the local IRS office has an adding machine and a bucket full of collection cases. Once they add up the minimum required, the rest stay in the bucket till next time.
Now, if you fail to respond, it gives you a statute of limitations defense (What letter? I didn't get no letter!) and they will act before the clock runs out.
It's the IRS version of prioritizing. They will get to you eventually.
Posted by: Damiano at July 05, 2016 02:19 PM (71OEY)
537
Fuck it, we're already there. I want to see payback.
Posted by: Colorado Alex - Fuck it, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (LUG6K)
Yeah, me too. I was just saying that some might consider that to be a valid reason not to prosecute her. Sorta like Ford pardoning Nixon for the good of the nation (as it then was).
Posted by: Colorado Alex - Fuck it, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (LUG6K)
Yeah, me too. I was just saying that some might consider that to be a valid reason not to prosecute her. Sorta like Ford pardoning Nixon for the good of the nation (as it then was).
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:19 PM (oKE6c)
538
Jack ass State Department spokes ass is contending the State's Email secruity is not Lax?
Fuckin people
Fuckin people
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:19 PM (zp+j1)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at July 05, 2016 02:20 PM (ry4ab)
540
If there's one guy who is most likely to NOT take a bribe it's the billionaire
That's nonsense. You know what the richest man in the world, a man who had so much money he was by himself 10% of the GNP said when asked how much money was enough?
"more."
John D. Rockefeller had so much money all he could figure out to do with it after buying everything he ever could imagine he wanted was to start giving it away by the dumptruck load. And he wanted more. Because there's never enough to guys like that, never the point at which they are satisfied.
That's nonsense. You know what the richest man in the world, a man who had so much money he was by himself 10% of the GNP said when asked how much money was enough?
"more."
John D. Rockefeller had so much money all he could figure out to do with it after buying everything he ever could imagine he wanted was to start giving it away by the dumptruck load. And he wanted more. Because there's never enough to guys like that, never the point at which they are satisfied.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:20 PM (39g3+)
541
Stupid or smart, the Swiss have always been interested in only one thing: THE SWISS
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (zp+j1)
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HOW XENOPHOBIC!!!!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (zp+j1)
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HOW XENOPHOBIC!!!!
Posted by: MSM at July 05, 2016 02:20 PM (0LHZx)
542
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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Well you will live longer than I thought you might. I'll let you decide if that is a good thing or bad.
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Well you will live longer than I thought you might. I'll let you decide if that is a good thing or bad.
Posted by: SH at July 05, 2016 02:20 PM (gmeXX)
543
The only way to escape the IRS is to be an illegal from south of the border or a democrat politician.
Posted by: brak at July 05, 2016 02:20 PM (MJuTN)
544
527 It is gratifying to work to support the elites and the illegals, that they have brought here to outnumber us, isn't it?
Posted by: Who Knows at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (XTL3w)
Don't forget us!
Posted by: Who Knows at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (XTL3w)
Don't forget us!
Posted by: FSA, 1st EBT Division at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (oKE6c)
545
I notice no shortage of Horde members out today telling others how futile resistance to Federal Power would be.
Personally, I'll make that call for myself ... but your Concern Status is most definitely Noted.
Personally, I'll make that call for myself ... but your Concern Status is most definitely Noted.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (RKJF2)
546
525 I still say Isle of Man is a promising escape location.
Posted by: Lauren...TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:17 PM (JQsZt)
Only if the Brexit isn't derailed by idiotic English politics. Once they're totally free and clear of the EU, it goes high on the list.
Posted by: Lauren...TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:17 PM (JQsZt)
Only if the Brexit isn't derailed by idiotic English politics. Once they're totally free and clear of the EU, it goes high on the list.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (HalrA)
547
This State Department prick is squirming and lying like a pro
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (zp+j1)
548
The idea that wealth precludes, or even deters, corruption and greed is disproven by, say, all of human history.
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (2cS/G)
549
Look on the bright side - as many here have said, correctly, Biden would have been more difficult to beat in the general. the hard core libs don't care if their candidate is a criminal, but many people out there will.
What I implore anyone in a position to influence reading this is to help Trump in any way possible to be a better candidate - there must be someone with influence besides his children that can get through to him.
I would also say that now is the time for Trump and the GOP to meld for the benefit of both, and let's bury the GOPe nonsense for the good of the country.
What I implore anyone in a position to influence reading this is to help Trump in any way possible to be a better candidate - there must be someone with influence besides his children that can get through to him.
I would also say that now is the time for Trump and the GOP to meld for the benefit of both, and let's bury the GOPe nonsense for the good of the country.
Posted by: Soulpatchtony at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (m40v5)
550
2016, OCTOBER: all weapons purchased, liquor and ammo stockpiles fully replenished
2017: planning stage for the BananaBuggy (up armored) and BananaBunker
SHTF: TRA LA LA TRA LA LA LA
2017: planning stage for the BananaBuggy (up armored) and BananaBunker
SHTF: TRA LA LA TRA LA LA LA
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (2uAYF)
551
If anything, the whole experience makes me "push the envelope" at tax time even more because you see how clueless they really are.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (Jzg4b)
Kale, I understand your eyeroll at the IRS based on your current experience.
Please note that bonuses are paid to IRS agents that reach collection goals.
Your file hasn't been turned over to one of them yet. When it does, I don't think you will be as comfortable in your assessment of their abilities.
Remember Lois Lerner and what she and her cohorts did to thousands of individuals who were starting up non profits with the name freedom, or liberty in them. She not only slow tracked the non profit status, but then opened up IRS investigations on the businesses and personal tax files of those individuals. Audited them.
And what has happened to her? Nothing. She retired with immunity from prosecution, her pension and she received a bonus her final year.
And the Republicans. and Trey Gowdy have speechified from the Capitol steps. The Shakespearean Theater time was dramatic.
And then they went home.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:13 PM (Jzg4b)
Kale, I understand your eyeroll at the IRS based on your current experience.
Please note that bonuses are paid to IRS agents that reach collection goals.
Your file hasn't been turned over to one of them yet. When it does, I don't think you will be as comfortable in your assessment of their abilities.
Remember Lois Lerner and what she and her cohorts did to thousands of individuals who were starting up non profits with the name freedom, or liberty in them. She not only slow tracked the non profit status, but then opened up IRS investigations on the businesses and personal tax files of those individuals. Audited them.
And what has happened to her? Nothing. She retired with immunity from prosecution, her pension and she received a bonus her final year.
And the Republicans. and Trey Gowdy have speechified from the Capitol steps. The Shakespearean Theater time was dramatic.
And then they went home.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (HbTvc)
552
There's a good reason for the next Administration not to prosecute her: it smacks of banana republic payback, and thereby sets a bad precedent.
The problem with that is that it lets you get away with anything, no matter how horrific, just by being the opponent of the president.
There's no precedents set by prosecuting a criminal except that of justice. But there is one set by not doing so: injustice. Just like how the Bush administration refused to go after the scumbag staffers who trashed and looted the White House when Clinton left.
The problem with that is that it lets you get away with anything, no matter how horrific, just by being the opponent of the president.
There's no precedents set by prosecuting a criminal except that of justice. But there is one set by not doing so: injustice. Just like how the Bush administration refused to go after the scumbag staffers who trashed and looted the White House when Clinton left.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (39g3+)
553
IIRC, Switzerland applied to enter the EU, but wasn't accepted for some reason that I don't now recall.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (oKE6c)
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The Swiss people rejected a trade agreement with the EU so Switzerland did not pursue their submitted application for EU membership. Unlike most European countries the Swiss take note of the results of referenda.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:18 PM (oKE6c)
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The Swiss people rejected a trade agreement with the EU so Switzerland did not pursue their submitted application for EU membership. Unlike most European countries the Swiss take note of the results of referenda.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (NUqwG)
554
Stupid or smart, the Swiss have always been interested in only one thing: THE SWISS
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (zp+j1)
Imagine a country looking out for its citizens. Where do they come up with this shit?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (zp+j1)
Imagine a country looking out for its citizens. Where do they come up with this shit?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (oKE6c)
555
This Kirby prick is ex Navy right? Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (zp+j1)
556
It's the IRS version of prioritizing. They will get to you eventually.
Posted by: Damiano
Okay, I guess we should all just fall in line.
Better go ahead and hand in your guns also. They'll get them eventually too.
The IRS is an inept, federal agency like all the rest. A credit card company does a better job collecting what they are owed, but everyone is far more terrified of the same type of people that run the DMV.
Posted by: Damiano
Okay, I guess we should all just fall in line.
Better go ahead and hand in your guns also. They'll get them eventually too.
The IRS is an inept, federal agency like all the rest. A credit card company does a better job collecting what they are owed, but everyone is far more terrified of the same type of people that run the DMV.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (Jzg4b)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (qCMvj)
558
I notice no shortage of Horde members out today telling others how futile resistance to Federal Power would be.
Personally, I'll make that call for myself ... but your Concern Status is most definitely Noted.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (RKJF2)
As I said earlier, a nation of spineless pussies.
Personally, I'll make that call for myself ... but your Concern Status is most definitely Noted.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (RKJF2)
As I said earlier, a nation of spineless pussies.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (oO+cT)
559
>>This State Department prick is squirming and lying like a pro
You know what makes it worse? He's a retired Admiral.
Not a dentist though.
You know what makes it worse? He's a retired Admiral.
Not a dentist though.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (/tuJf)
560
"I still say Isle of Man is a promising escape location."
Jeremy Clarkson swears by it. You can own a handgun and everything.
Jeremy Clarkson swears by it. You can own a handgun and everything.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill-Yes, back to TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (9ym/8)
561
The Swiss people rejected a trade agreement with the
EU so Switzerland did not pursue their submitted application for EU
membership. Unlike most European countries the Swiss take note of the
results of referenda.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (NUqwG)
That's it. Thank you.
EU so Switzerland did not pursue their submitted application for EU
membership. Unlike most European countries the Swiss take note of the
results of referenda.
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (NUqwG)
That's it. Thank you.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:23 PM (oKE6c)
562
Stupid or smart, the Swiss have always been interested in only one thing: THE SWISS
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (zp+j1)
Imagine a country looking out for its citizens. Where do they come up with this shit?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (oKE6c)
I did not state that as a insult to the Swiss, just an observation
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:16 PM (zp+j1)
Imagine a country looking out for its citizens. Where do they come up with this shit?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (oKE6c)
I did not state that as a insult to the Swiss, just an observation
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:23 PM (zp+j1)
563
Maybe I'm thinking about this all wrong. What if we do what our ancestors did. Find a small nation to move to, kill off the natives and start anew. That should buy us about 200 years before it too goes to shit.
Posted by: StrawMan at July 05, 2016 02:23 PM (gRZfJ)
564
start with kicking all the libs out of Texas, and strengthening it
then the next state, then the next
start with kicking all the libs out of Texas, and strengthening it
then the next state, then the next
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 05, 2016 02:23 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 02:23 PM (p4UlV)
566
540 If there's one guy who is most likely to NOT take a bribe it's the billionaire
That's nonsense. You know what the richest man in the world, a man who had so much money he was by himself 10% of the GNP said when asked how much money was enough?
"more."
John D. Rockefeller had so much money all he could figure out to do with it after buying everything he ever could imagine he wanted was to start giving it away by the dumptruck load. And he wanted more. Because there's never enough to guys like that, never the point at which they are satisfied.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:20 PM (39g3+)
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Apples and oranges. For Rockefeller, and Ford and every other evil rich titan of industry, it wasn't the money. It was the power, the sense of winning, fucking over the other guy, enlarging the empire. The money was secondary. Which is why none of those guys - or Trump - would take a bribe. It doesn't do anything for their egos.
That's nonsense. You know what the richest man in the world, a man who had so much money he was by himself 10% of the GNP said when asked how much money was enough?
"more."
John D. Rockefeller had so much money all he could figure out to do with it after buying everything he ever could imagine he wanted was to start giving it away by the dumptruck load. And he wanted more. Because there's never enough to guys like that, never the point at which they are satisfied.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:20 PM (39g3+)
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Apples and oranges. For Rockefeller, and Ford and every other evil rich titan of industry, it wasn't the money. It was the power, the sense of winning, fucking over the other guy, enlarging the empire. The money was secondary. Which is why none of those guys - or Trump - would take a bribe. It doesn't do anything for their egos.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:23 PM (0LHZx)
567
So...does this mean the yuuuge Iraq bombings, as well as the Saudi Arabia bombings will now be ignored by the MSM?
Just this morning saw (lefty) Jeffrey Sachs on Morning Joe declaring Hillary's foreign policy, particularly in Libya and the ME, a COMPLETE disaster. He blamed Obama, too, but they were talking about the presidential race.
And he admitted to being a Hillary fan.
Just this morning saw (lefty) Jeffrey Sachs on Morning Joe declaring Hillary's foreign policy, particularly in Libya and the ME, a COMPLETE disaster. He blamed Obama, too, but they were talking about the presidential race.
And he admitted to being a Hillary fan.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill-Yes, back to TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (9ym/8)
569
You know what makes it worse? He's a retired Admiral.
Yup, I thought so...and one of the "Careerists" The FAB thanked
Yup, I thought so...and one of the "Careerists" The FAB thanked
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (zp+j1)
570
OK this makes zero sense. If there's one guy who is most likely to NOT take a bribe it's the billionaire. What would you bribe him with exactly? $1M? $100M? $1B? Seriously, how do you bribe someone that is as rich as he is?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:17 PM (0LHZx)
Ask the politicians and contractors that bribe him.
If you like Trump, I respect that. Your call.
Pretending that a guy who has spent most of his life in real estate, construction, and political circles and who values his net worth at 2-3 times what Forbes does is above being bribed is naive.
Simpler version: Not all bribes are cash bribes.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:17 PM (0LHZx)
Ask the politicians and contractors that bribe him.
If you like Trump, I respect that. Your call.
Pretending that a guy who has spent most of his life in real estate, construction, and political circles and who values his net worth at 2-3 times what Forbes does is above being bribed is naive.
Simpler version: Not all bribes are cash bribes.
Posted by: Damiano at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (71OEY)
571
2016, OCTOBER: all weapons purchased, liquor and ammo stockpiles fully replenished
2017: planning stage for the BananaBuggy (up armored) and BananaBunker
SHTF: TRA LA LA TRA LA LA LA
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (2uAYF)
2016 is the year of selling cloaks and buying swords.
Can't say we weren't warned.
2017: planning stage for the BananaBuggy (up armored) and BananaBunker
SHTF: TRA LA LA TRA LA LA LA
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (2uAYF)
2016 is the year of selling cloaks and buying swords.
Can't say we weren't warned.
Posted by: Blano at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (oO+cT)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (p4UlV)
573
I notice no shortage of Horde members out today telling others how futile resistance to Federal Power would be.
Personally, I'll make that call for myself ... but your Concern Status is most definitely Noted.
Posted by: ScoggDog
+1000
With friends like these.
Good thing these people weren't who we were counting on when the nation was founded on the real Independence Day.
"It's no use rebelling against the Crown, they are invincible! Maybe they'll give us some more scraps if we are obedient."
Personally, I'll make that call for myself ... but your Concern Status is most definitely Noted.
Posted by: ScoggDog
+1000
With friends like these.
Good thing these people weren't who we were counting on when the nation was founded on the real Independence Day.
"It's no use rebelling against the Crown, they are invincible! Maybe they'll give us some more scraps if we are obedient."
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (Jzg4b)
574
Power needs money to perpetuate itself. We have to buy shit but we don't have to buy as much shit.
Start by buying less shit
Start by buying less shit
Posted by: kbdabear at July 05, 2016 02:25 PM (XM9qq)
575
Imagine a country looking out for its citizens. Where do they come up with this shit?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (oKE6c)
I did not state that as a insult to the Swiss, just an observation
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:23 PM (zp+j1)
I know. I wasn't snarking you, but rather our homegrown traitors.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (oKE6c)
I did not state that as a insult to the Swiss, just an observation
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:23 PM (zp+j1)
I know. I wasn't snarking you, but rather our homegrown traitors.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 05, 2016 02:25 PM (oKE6c)
576
The IRS is an inept, federal agency like all the rest. A credit card company does a better job collecting what they are owed, but everyone is far more terrified of the same type of people that run the DMV.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (Jzg4b)
___
Well the IRS does have the power to jail you. They don't do it often, but they can do it. So the fear is justified in that aspect. Worst that happens if you don't pay your Amex bill is a shitty credit score. Worse that happens if you don't pay your taxes is 18 months in prison.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:22 PM (Jzg4b)
___
Well the IRS does have the power to jail you. They don't do it often, but they can do it. So the fear is justified in that aspect. Worst that happens if you don't pay your Amex bill is a shitty credit score. Worse that happens if you don't pay your taxes is 18 months in prison.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:25 PM (0LHZx)
577
There's a good reason for the next Administration not to prosecute her: it smacks of banana republic payback, and thereby sets a bad precedent.
In other words, we should bring a knife to the Democrats' gun fight.
There's a good reason for the next Administration not to prosecute her: it smacks of banana republic payback, and thereby sets a bad precedent.
In other words, we should bring a knife to the Democrats' gun fight.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2016 02:25 PM (X6fMO)
578
>>>>It's the IRS version of prioritizing. They will get to you eventually.
Posted by: Damiano
Okay, I guess we should all just fall in line.
Better go ahead and hand in your guns also. They'll get them eventually too.
The IRS is an inept, federal agency like all the rest. A credit
card company does a better job collecting what they are owed, but
everyone is far more terrified of the same type of people that run the
DMV.
.
.
.
.Oh the IRS does a superb job of collecting, especially if you get any sort of Government check. Social Security, Military Pension, VA disability or the like. Also I have not yet met any employer who even thought of fighting any wage garnishment that the IRS sent them.
Posted by: Damiano
Okay, I guess we should all just fall in line.
Better go ahead and hand in your guns also. They'll get them eventually too.
The IRS is an inept, federal agency like all the rest. A credit
card company does a better job collecting what they are owed, but
everyone is far more terrified of the same type of people that run the
DMV.
.
.
.
.Oh the IRS does a superb job of collecting, especially if you get any sort of Government check. Social Security, Military Pension, VA disability or the like. Also I have not yet met any employer who even thought of fighting any wage garnishment that the IRS sent them.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 05, 2016 02:25 PM (iONHu)
579
Apples and oranges. For Rockefeller, and Ford and every other evil rich titan of industry, it wasn't the money. It was the power, the sense of winning, fucking over the other guy, enlarging the empire. The money was secondary. Which is why none of those guys - or Trump - would take a bribe. It doesn't do anything for their egos.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:23 PM (0LHZx)
*points and laughs*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:23 PM (0LHZx)
*points and laughs*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: Quid Pro Quo at July 05, 2016 02:25 PM (71OEY)
580
Of all the ideas discussed here, jury nullification is the strongest. If they will not obey the laws, then neither should we demand anyone else do so. Traffic violation? Not guilty. Lack of tax payments? Not guilty. Anything that doesn't directly and specifically affect your fellow citizen, not guilty, no matter what.
The idea that wealth precludes, or even deters, corruption and greed is disproven by, say, all of human history.
Yeah, that's just... amazingly ignorant of human nature and history.
The idea that wealth precludes, or even deters, corruption and greed is disproven by, say, all of human history.
Yeah, that's just... amazingly ignorant of human nature and history.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (39g3+)
581
I think this might be as job for MindfulWebworker-if wants to do it:
Do some kind of graphic with Hillary Clinton as a Pig
and underneath it a quote "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others"
Hillary=Animal Farm 2016
I;d buy some stickers or a banner.
Do some kind of graphic with Hillary Clinton as a Pig
and underneath it a quote "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others"
Hillary=Animal Farm 2016
I;d buy some stickers or a banner.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (frf5f)
582
James Comey is to Hillary Clinton as Roscoe P Coltrane is to Boss Hogg
Posted by: kbdabear at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (XM9qq)
583
Pretending that a guy who has spent most of his life in real estate, construction, and political circles and who values his net worth at 2-3 times what Forbes does is above being bribed is naive.
Simpler version: Not all bribes are cash bribes.
Posted by: Damiano at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (71OEY)
___
I'm sure Trump has done a lot of bribing, but I really doubt he has been bribed.
Simpler version: Not all bribes are cash bribes.
Posted by: Damiano at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (71OEY)
___
I'm sure Trump has done a lot of bribing, but I really doubt he has been bribed.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (0LHZx)
584
Prepare.
The future is coming fast and it will be ugly, thanks in no small part to James "Its a tax!" Comey's collapse under progressive pressure.
The future is coming fast and it will be ugly, thanks in no small part to James "Its a tax!" Comey's collapse under progressive pressure.
Posted by: MTF at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (/m8T6)
585
There's a story on Slashdot about this. It might cheer everyone up to know that with 300+ comments not a single person is even trying to defend this. The nerds are outraged. I didn't see that coming - there's always a big split for SJW or global warming articles.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (UBzPO)
586
We now have the Calvinball Rule of Law
Posted by: kbdabear at July 05, 2016 02:27 PM (XM9qq)
587
582 James Comey is to Hillary Clinton as Roscoe P Coltrane is to Boss Hogg
Posted by: kbdabear at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (XM9qq)
Did he make that silly "kew kew kew!" noise?
Posted by: kbdabear at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (XM9qq)
Did he make that silly "kew kew kew!" noise?
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 05, 2016 02:27 PM (0mRoj)
588
What a crock of shit....People get their Security Clearences stripped every day...
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:27 PM (zp+j1)
589
For Rockefeller, and Ford and every other evil rich titan of industry, it wasn't the money. It was the power, the sense of winning, fucking over the other guy, enlarging the empire.
Which is measured by money. Which is why, when asked how much money was enough, he said "more." Not more power not more empire, more money.
Money isn't some separate thing, its a measurement of power and influence, a physical representation of those things. There is nobody, nobody so wealthy that they would turn down more.
Nobody.
Which is measured by money. Which is why, when asked how much money was enough, he said "more." Not more power not more empire, more money.
Money isn't some separate thing, its a measurement of power and influence, a physical representation of those things. There is nobody, nobody so wealthy that they would turn down more.
Nobody.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:28 PM (39g3+)
590
I would also say that now is the time for Trump and the GOP to meld for the benefit of both, and let's bury the GOPe nonsense for the good of the country.
Posted by: Soulpatchtony at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (m40v5)
Either way you look at it- Biden, Hillary, Trump- you cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Anyone who thinks the Republicans can fix this problem (or even believes the GOP cares about anything other than getting as much out of the federal trough as they can) is a fool.
Posted by: Soulpatchtony at July 05, 2016 02:21 PM (m40v5)
Either way you look at it- Biden, Hillary, Trump- you cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Anyone who thinks the Republicans can fix this problem (or even believes the GOP cares about anything other than getting as much out of the federal trough as they can) is a fool.
Posted by: DaveKinNC at July 05, 2016 02:28 PM (/NgNT)
591
Well the IRS does have the power to jail you. They don't do it often, but they can do it. So the fear is justified in that aspect. Worst that happens if you don't pay your Amex bill is a shitty credit score. Worse that happens if you don't pay your taxes is 18 months in prison.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
Hillary has the power to jail you for making a YouTube video she doesn't like.
At some point people are going to need to be willing to make a sacrifice or two for freedom.
But for the record, the list of people actually in prison for tax evasion is incredibly small. It's almost exclusively a tack on of charges for other criminal activity.
And the IRS can only go back a few years to look, even the Supreme Court basically said 3 years was it.
Well the IRS does have the power to jail you. They don't do it often, but they can do it. So the fear is justified in that aspect. Worst that happens if you don't pay your Amex bill is a shitty credit score. Worse that happens if you don't pay your taxes is 18 months in prison.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
Hillary has the power to jail you for making a YouTube video she doesn't like.
At some point people are going to need to be willing to make a sacrifice or two for freedom.
But for the record, the list of people actually in prison for tax evasion is incredibly small. It's almost exclusively a tack on of charges for other criminal activity.
And the IRS can only go back a few years to look, even the Supreme Court basically said 3 years was it.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:28 PM (Jzg4b)
592
"It's no use rebelling against the Crown, they are invincible! Maybe they'll give us some more scraps if we are obedient."
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (Jzg4b)
Maybe some of us with experience have insight into what might work and what is destined to fail.
There's smart ways to fight and then....
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (Jzg4b)
Maybe some of us with experience have insight into what might work and what is destined to fail.
There's smart ways to fight and then....
Posted by: Jen the original at July 05, 2016 02:29 PM (HbTvc)
593
586 We now have the Calvinball Rule of Law
Posted by: kbdabear at July 05, 2016 02:27 PM (XM9qq)
Time to start playing Fizbin.
Posted by: kbdabear at July 05, 2016 02:27 PM (XM9qq)
Time to start playing Fizbin.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party, TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:29 PM (HalrA)
594
Flee to Canada? Like hell. The only way I will reside there is if some of my ashes land there.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at July 05, 2016 02:29 PM (gmjUl)
595
585 There's a story on Slashdot about this. It might cheer everyone up to know that with 300+ comments not a single person is even trying to defend this. The nerds are outraged. I didn't see that coming - there's always a big split for SJW or global warming articles.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (UBzPO)
___
Was the story linked from Drudge? I'm asking because any story linked from Drudge will be 98% comments that are anti-Democrat / Liberal.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (UBzPO)
___
Was the story linked from Drudge? I'm asking because any story linked from Drudge will be 98% comments that are anti-Democrat / Liberal.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:29 PM (0LHZx)
596
So this John Kirby of The State Dept. is speaking on TV right now. It is obvious EVERY Government spokesman has a BS Degree.
Posted by: normal person at July 05, 2016 02:29 PM (Queum)
597
I would also say that if anyone out there in the whole world wide web has the emails - release them - I don't care what damage they do, put them all out there and they will be crowdsourced to death to get the juicy bits.
Posted by: Soulpatchtony at July 05, 2016 02:29 PM (m40v5)
598
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (UBzPO)
Should make for an interesting Democratic convention. Bernie Bros didn't like her to begin with. This is not going to increase her positives.
Should make for an interesting Democratic convention. Bernie Bros didn't like her to begin with. This is not going to increase her positives.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2016 02:29 PM (frf5f)
599
Case in point: Structuring. No court. No charges. No notice. No investigation. No indication of a crime
Structuring is an indication of a crime.
Case in point: Structuring. No court. No charges. No notice. No investigation. No indication of a crime
Structuring is an indication of a crime.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 05, 2016 02:30 PM (lKyWE)
600
Comey, pOS that he is, could have simply resigned and said--let the next guy kiss their ass. I am not. Good bye.
But Comey, in the end, is no more or less than the Soviet era bureaucrat who rationalized ALL....and lost their soul.
Unfortunately our POS took the nations' soul down with his worthless ass.
But Comey, in the end, is no more or less than the Soviet era bureaucrat who rationalized ALL....and lost their soul.
Unfortunately our POS took the nations' soul down with his worthless ass.
Posted by: malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at July 05, 2016 02:30 PM (713RE)
601
Does this prick Kirby have a back bone or any Honor?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2016 02:30 PM (zp+j1)
602
Of all the ideas discussed here, jury nullification is the strongest.
_______
I'm only willing to do that if the law in question is bullshit.
Otherwise, I'm not letting child molesters go free because I'm mad at Hillary and the FBI.
_______
I'm only willing to do that if the law in question is bullshit.
Otherwise, I'm not letting child molesters go free because I'm mad at Hillary and the FBI.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:30 PM (Jzg4b)
603
585 There's a story on Slashdot about this. It might cheer everyone up to know that with 300+ comments not a single person is even trying to defend this. The nerds are outraged. I didn't see that coming - there's always a big split for SJW or global warming articles.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (UBzPO)
Nerds can be surprising. There were a LOT of pissed off gamers, across just about every possible demographic, when Gamergate broke.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 05, 2016 02:26 PM (UBzPO)
Nerds can be surprising. There were a LOT of pissed off gamers, across just about every possible demographic, when Gamergate broke.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 05, 2016 02:30 PM (0mRoj)
604
New post !
Posted by: RioBravo at July 05, 2016 02:31 PM (NUqwG)
605
But for the record, the list of people actually in prison for tax evasion is incredibly small. It's almost exclusively a tack on of charges for other criminal activity.
And the IRS can only go back a few years to look, even the Supreme Court basically said 3 years was it.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:28 PM (Jzg4b)
___
Maybe everyone has seen The Untouchables too many times. I've never been in trouble with the IRS. Even so if I get a letter from them and I see that IRS return address on the envelope, I panic, even though I know I haven't done anything to warrant me panicking.
For whatever reason, we've been ingrained with the notion that IRS = Big Bad Wolf
And the IRS can only go back a few years to look, even the Supreme Court basically said 3 years was it.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:28 PM (Jzg4b)
___
Maybe everyone has seen The Untouchables too many times. I've never been in trouble with the IRS. Even so if I get a letter from them and I see that IRS return address on the envelope, I panic, even though I know I haven't done anything to warrant me panicking.
For whatever reason, we've been ingrained with the notion that IRS = Big Bad Wolf
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:31 PM (0LHZx)
606
"It's no use rebelling against the Crown, they are invincible! Maybe they'll give us some more scraps if we are obedient."
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (Jzg4b)
Maybe some of us with experience have insight into what might work and what is destined to fail.
There's smart ways to fight and then....
Posted by: Jen the original
I guess you forgot about the Boston Tea Party?
Our nation was basically founded on a tax revolt.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:24 PM (Jzg4b)
Maybe some of us with experience have insight into what might work and what is destined to fail.
There's smart ways to fight and then....
Posted by: Jen the original
I guess you forgot about the Boston Tea Party?
Our nation was basically founded on a tax revolt.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:31 PM (Jzg4b)
607
I'm only willing to do that if the law in question is bullshit.
Otherwise, I'm not letting child molesters go free because I'm mad at Hillary and the FBI.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:30 PM (Jzg4b)
____
Non-violent crimes only.
Otherwise, I'm not letting child molesters go free because I'm mad at Hillary and the FBI.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:30 PM (Jzg4b)
____
Non-violent crimes only.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at July 05, 2016 02:32 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at July 05, 2016 02:32 PM (WVsWD)
609
And anyone who believes that Comey making this announcement on the day after Independence Day is a fool. This is another huge FU to the hoi polloi.
Posted by: DaveKinNC at July 05, 2016 02:33 PM (/NgNT)
610
Preznint Barky has been saying Fuk You to the rule of law for his entire time in office. Why would we expect that to change now?
Posted by: Hank at July 05, 2016 02:33 PM (bmbnN)
611
I wonder what Hillary's "Let them eat cake" moment will be.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at July 05, 2016 02:34 PM (J9FkY)
612
Maybe everyone has seen The Untouchables too many times. I've never been in trouble with the IRS. Even so if I get a letter from them and I see that IRS return address on the envelope, I panic, even though I know I haven't done anything to warrant me panicking.
For whatever reason, we've been ingrained with the notion that IRS = Big Bad Wolf
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
I panicked also, and after seeing how they work, figured out pretty quickly what I was dealing with. Morons that can't do much except make threats.
Now, there's a smart way to play the system and a stupid way. Not turning in a tax return would be stupid, pushing the envelope on what you owe is another.
What's funny is the stuff I'm dealing with is completely on the up and up.
For whatever reason, we've been ingrained with the notion that IRS = Big Bad Wolf
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
I panicked also, and after seeing how they work, figured out pretty quickly what I was dealing with. Morons that can't do much except make threats.
Now, there's a smart way to play the system and a stupid way. Not turning in a tax return would be stupid, pushing the envelope on what you owe is another.
What's funny is the stuff I'm dealing with is completely on the up and up.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:34 PM (Jzg4b)
613
Just read that Lee Emery voted for Obama the first time. Oh Gunny how you sting me. Now complaining how Hollywood has blacked balled him for criticizing Obama.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at July 05, 2016 02:34 PM (Vi3+d)
614
428 "an actual plan of action"
A trek towards DC with five-days rations and ....garden implements.
A trek towards DC with five-days rations and ....garden implements.
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at July 05, 2016 02:34 PM (9Z1KY)
615
Remember: your rights end where taxation power begins.
Want to get back? Let the "public service" pensions collapse under their own weight.
Want to get back? Let the "public service" pensions collapse under their own weight.
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at July 05, 2016 02:34 PM (J8/9G)
616
Otherwise, I'm not letting child molesters go free because I'm mad at Hillary and the FBI.
Right, like I said, nothing that directly and specifically affects your fellow citizens. But anything else? Totally walk. This needs to be a movement.
It's no use rebelling against the Crown, they are invincible! Maybe they'll give us some more scraps if we are obedient.
I'm not saying it couldn't work here, but there are enormous differences between now and then. Like, America isn't at war with another country at the time, and America isn't thousands of miles over an ocean away at a time when it took weeks to cross.
Right, like I said, nothing that directly and specifically affects your fellow citizens. But anything else? Totally walk. This needs to be a movement.
It's no use rebelling against the Crown, they are invincible! Maybe they'll give us some more scraps if we are obedient.
I'm not saying it couldn't work here, but there are enormous differences between now and then. Like, America isn't at war with another country at the time, and America isn't thousands of miles over an ocean away at a time when it took weeks to cross.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 05, 2016 02:34 PM (39g3+)
617
Just read that Lee Emery voted for Obama the first time. Oh Gunny how you sting me. Now complaining how Hollywood has blacked balled him for criticizing Obama.
Wait, whut?
Wait, whut?
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at July 05, 2016 02:37 PM (Oy2Ew)
618
I'm not saying it couldn't work here, but there are enormous differences between now and then. Like, America isn't at war with another country at the time, and America isn't thousands of miles over an ocean away at a time when it took weeks to cross.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Washington DC is a ten mile square. It could EASILY be taken over if enough people got fed up.
Bureaucrats who have never even held a gun in their life with cushy jobs are our slave masters.
I'm not saying it couldn't work here, but there are enormous differences between now and then. Like, America isn't at war with another country at the time, and America isn't thousands of miles over an ocean away at a time when it took weeks to cross.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Washington DC is a ten mile square. It could EASILY be taken over if enough people got fed up.
Bureaucrats who have never even held a gun in their life with cushy jobs are our slave masters.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:37 PM (Jzg4b)
619
Yeah, me too. I was just saying that some might consider that to be a valid reason not to prosecute her. Sorta like Ford pardoning Nixon for the good of the nation (as it then was).
But that was after he resigned from the Presidency. Hillary hasn't suffered any consequences. Yet.
But that was after he resigned from the Presidency. Hillary hasn't suffered any consequences. Yet.
Posted by: Fox2! at July 05, 2016 02:41 PM (rjfGJ)
620
104
On a related note, does anyone have Sharkman's email address? Went
looking for it yesterday, but couldn't remember which thread he dropped
into.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius
peterjvaughn1963 at gmail.com
On a related note, does anyone have Sharkman's email address? Went
looking for it yesterday, but couldn't remember which thread he dropped
into.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius
peterjvaughn1963 at gmail.com
Posted by: Jon Corzine at July 05, 2016 02:42 PM (3b9U4)
621
Yeah, what's the plan?
I live and work in the media industries in NYC and LA. People I live next to and work with every day can literally physically assault me with impunity, since the rule of law no longer seems to exist for those of us not politically connected.
So what's the plan? Especially if you're living, like me, in what is essentially enemy territory?
I live and work in the media industries in NYC and LA. People I live next to and work with every day can literally physically assault me with impunity, since the rule of law no longer seems to exist for those of us not politically connected.
So what's the plan? Especially if you're living, like me, in what is essentially enemy territory?
Posted by: Mike at July 05, 2016 02:42 PM (o38N1)
622
I wasn't going to support Trump, but as of today I'm doing it as a massive FUCK YOU TOO to all the elites, GOPe, and #NeverTrump crowd in bed with Hillary
Posted by: kbdabear at July 05, 2016 02:42 PM (XM9qq)
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Just read that Lee Emery voted for Obama the first time. Oh Gunny how
you sting me. Now complaining how Hollywood has blacked balled him for
criticizing Obama.
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sounds like a personal problem to me...
F him.
you sting me. Now complaining how Hollywood has blacked balled him for
criticizing Obama.
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sounds like a personal problem to me...
F him.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2016 02:44 PM (7XWyA)
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Right, like I said, nothing that directly and specifically affects your
fellow citizens. But anything else? Totally walk. This needs to be a
movement.
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half of them in general, and most of them, where i live, voted for Obola, and will vote for the Bitch.
F them all, i'm letting everyone walk... hell, i'm not even calling the cops anymore.
they want a lawless society, i say we give it to them.
fellow citizens. But anything else? Totally walk. This needs to be a
movement.
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half of them in general, and most of them, where i live, voted for Obola, and will vote for the Bitch.
F them all, i'm letting everyone walk... hell, i'm not even calling the cops anymore.
they want a lawless society, i say we give it to them.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2016 02:46 PM (7XWyA)
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Hillary hasn't suffered any consequences. Yet.
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she never will, at least on this planet...
that ship sailed today.
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she never will, at least on this planet...
that ship sailed today.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 05, 2016 02:47 PM (7XWyA)
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That's a great piece. I will take. The time to read it more carefully later.
I came to the same conclusion a long time ago when I realized illegals don't have to follow the laws I do, and are not even expected to.
And "sucker" was the word I applied to myself.
I am - or was - a great believer I the rule of law. But when I realized it only applies to some of us, I no longer did right because in addition to it being against the law to do otherwise, it was also "the right thing to do."
I no longer considered it " the right thing to do." Now I do it because of the punishment. Oh, I still follow the law when no one is looking, and impeccably so. But the notion that this is how we pull together as a team in this society has long since evaporated.
My whole strategy going forward is just to keep my head down. Because I also know that even if you follow the law, they'll get you anyway if they want to. Good thing I'm unimportant.
I came to the same conclusion a long time ago when I realized illegals don't have to follow the laws I do, and are not even expected to.
And "sucker" was the word I applied to myself.
I am - or was - a great believer I the rule of law. But when I realized it only applies to some of us, I no longer did right because in addition to it being against the law to do otherwise, it was also "the right thing to do."
I no longer considered it " the right thing to do." Now I do it because of the punishment. Oh, I still follow the law when no one is looking, and impeccably so. But the notion that this is how we pull together as a team in this society has long since evaporated.
My whole strategy going forward is just to keep my head down. Because I also know that even if you follow the law, they'll get you anyway if they want to. Good thing I'm unimportant.
Posted by: Alana at July 05, 2016 02:51 PM (X6qN4)
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She didn't give her endorsement until she did on to her Facebook followers the day before the election and she thinks she has the standing to tell other people to get on board the Trump train in July?
Fuck her.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 01:46 PM (/tuJf)
If Todd wouldn't throw me into Anchorage Bay, I would over and over
Fuck her.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2016 01:46 PM (/tuJf)
If Todd wouldn't throw me into Anchorage Bay, I would over and over
Posted by: kbdabear at July 05, 2016 02:51 PM (XM9qq)
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Mike, move.
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2016 02:51 PM (Doh4+)
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I'm not letting child molesters go free because I'm mad at Hillary and the FBI.
The idea of jury nullification is that the law is unjust, or unjust as applied to this defendant. Even if the defendant is guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt as the law is written, if you believe the law is unjust or unfairly applied, you should acquit.
The idea of jury nullification is that the law is unjust, or unjust as applied to this defendant. Even if the defendant is guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt as the law is written, if you believe the law is unjust or unfairly applied, you should acquit.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at July 05, 2016 02:53 PM (evdj2)
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Mike, move.
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2016 02:51 PM (Doh4+)
Maybe you're right, Jean. My brother lives in Texas and keeps telling me the same thing.
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2016 02:51 PM (Doh4+)
Maybe you're right, Jean. My brother lives in Texas and keeps telling me the same thing.
Posted by: Mike at July 05, 2016 02:55 PM (o38N1)
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Read this this morning. He's right.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2016 02:56 PM (Yo9Lf)
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The idea of jury nullification is that the law is unjust, or unjust as applied to this defendant. Even if the defendant is guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt as the law is written, if you believe the law is unjust or unfairly applied, you should acquit.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
I was on that train for a long time, I thought everybody did that already.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
I was on that train for a long time, I thought everybody did that already.
Posted by: Kale at July 05, 2016 02:57 PM (Jzg4b)
633
By the way, do I need a more elaborate nickname? I've been posting with a single name for a few years, but is the situation more dire now?
Posted by: Mike at July 05, 2016 03:05 PM (o38N1)
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Kurt is right about this stuff being liberating. Obeying the law is no longer a matter of ethics, but merely one of consequence. If you can hurt your enemies and get away with it, do.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at July 05, 2016 03:12 PM (evdj2)
635
John F. Kennedy said it best; "Those that make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable".
Welcome to the 21st century where the tree of liberty either gets watered or dies. Along with your liberties and freedoms and rights.
Anyone who isn't dismayed by the Government as configured by Obama isn't paying attention and most likely has a post 1990 public education.
Welcome to the 21st century where the tree of liberty either gets watered or dies. Along with your liberties and freedoms and rights.
Anyone who isn't dismayed by the Government as configured by Obama isn't paying attention and most likely has a post 1990 public education.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 05, 2016 03:24 PM (ECJ+C)
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Interesting that in the list of things that he lists that we don't owe the government, the one thing people could withhold that would actually matter isn't listed.
Posted by: Jabari at July 05, 2016 03:36 PM (0tMjj)
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You owe them Trump. Act like you're going to give him to them rather than acting like you've already lost.
Posted by: Dystopia Max at July 06, 2016 02:29 AM (UM8Ie)
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When I can, I point out to the young people who trust me somewhat that the FSA and the illegals are taking THEIR money, THEIR jobs, THEIR future. This slows down the bleeding hearts a bit and gives them something to ponder over.
Yeah. Decades in the belly of the beast will teach you how to subvert.
When I can, I point out to the young people who trust me somewhat that the FSA and the illegals are taking THEIR money, THEIR jobs, THEIR future. This slows down the bleeding hearts a bit and gives them something to ponder over.
Yeah. Decades in the belly of the beast will teach you how to subvert.
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