Overnight Open Thread (6-12-2016)

Obama Allows That ISIS-Allied, Allah Akbar-Shouting Mass Shooter Might be a Terrorist, Immediately Blames America and Guns

Of course. Because it's his nature explained the ideological asshole.

The Muslim Shield and Willful Blindness

Gilroy, a former Fort Pierce police officer, said Mateen frequently made homophobic and racial comments. Gilroy said he complained to his employer several times but it did nothing because he was Muslim. Gilroy quit after he said Mateen began stalking him via multiple text messages - 20 or 30 a day. He also sent Gilroy 13 to 15 phone messages a day, he said.

"I quit because everything he said was toxic," Gilroy said Sunday, "and the company wouldn't do anything. This guy was unhinged and unstable. He talked of killing people." Gilroy said this shooting didn't come as a surprise to him.

DHS Official Who Protected Terrorist Suspect Won't be Punished, Gets a Promotion Instead

Just as insane and infuriating as it sounds. Irene Martin went out of her way to prevent FBI agents from arresting Enrique Marquez, who supplied the guns to Farook and Malik, during an unrelated immigration interview the day after the San Bernadino shootings.

Unfunded Pension Debt Now Exceeds $40,000 Per American Household

I hope you have enough savings to keep all those state, city and federal retirees in the lifestyle they're accustomed to.

Gawker Declares Bankruptcy, Puts Assets Up For Sale

Gawker made the world a worse place so good riddance.

Overwrought WIRED: Gawker's Bankruptcy Is How a Free Press Dies, One VC at a Time

How Democrats Win Debates By Corrupting The English Language

'Loopholes', 'stealing' and 'bans'.

Charles C.W. Cooke: "Forget Manipulative Editing - Katie Couric's Team Likely Violated Federal Law"

The problem for Soechtig - and for her broader argument - is that these transactions weren't in fact legal. Not even close. Under existing federal law, one may obtain firearms outside of one's state of residence only from a federally licensed firearms dealer. Moreover, at least until Mance v. Lynch is resolved, one may legally obtain a handgun only in one's own state of residence. If, as Soechtig claims, a Colorado resident purchased three handguns and a rifle from a private seller in another state, he broke federal law at least four times.

Meanwhile EPIX seems to have memory-holed Couric's documentary.

Why Are There Still Ashtrays on Planes?

How to Mine Platinum From the Side of the Road

Quite educational about chemistry and metal extraction - and yes they did succeed in collecting about $200 worth of platinum. Probably can't scale though.

Fred Blassie's Greatest Work

When Did 'Dumpster Fire' Become a Thing?

Mel Gibson Working On A Sequel To 'The Passion Of The Christ'

Horny Arizona Man Arrested For Attacking Wife

With a knife.

Weekly Commenter Standings

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Honorable Mention:
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Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
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The group. Banned on 12 universities.

Where it's at - the Twitter

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Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:23 PM

Comments

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1 Helluva day.

Posted by: HH at June 12, 2016 11:23 PM (DrCtv)

2 Good evening!

Posted by: speedster1 at June 12, 2016 11:24 PM (vUcdz)

3 ONT!

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 12, 2016 11:24 PM (yxupc)

4 Congrats to the Pittsburgh Penguins!

Posted by: the littl shyning man at June 12, 2016 11:25 PM (U6f54)

5 What a day, indeed.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 12, 2016 11:25 PM (rJUlF)

6 Konbanwa, Horde!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 12, 2016 11:28 PM (kP16F)

7 Irene Martin musta changed her name from Martinez.

Obviously a wise latina.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at June 12, 2016 11:28 PM (U6f54)

8 Yvonne De Carlo: Hottie, Munster chick, hardcore Reagan conservative. Rawr!

Posted by: CrustyB at June 12, 2016 11:28 PM (Hnglq)

9
I hope I can get un-addicted.

(Is Rush back tomorrow?)

Posted by: iforgot at June 12, 2016 11:29 PM (5o5ek)

10 Well maybe I'm in the top ten?

Posted by: Farmer at June 12, 2016 11:29 PM (o/90i)

11 Yvonne De Carlo was a stunningly beautiful woman!

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 12, 2016 11:29 PM (yxupc)

12 How come no one ever told me about Yvonne DeCarlo?

Posted by: cm9000 at June 12, 2016 11:30 PM (2TUVm)

13 iforgot - 398 comments!!!!!

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 12, 2016 11:30 PM (yxupc)

14 It's getting pretty insane out there, when the ONT becomes one's refuge of sanity amongst Teh Horde.

In other words, Greetings, Morons & 'Ettes!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 12, 2016 11:31 PM (v5iqM)

15 Who was that prophet that predicted here that totalitarianism would come to America under the guise of gay marriage?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 12, 2016 11:31 PM (kP16F)

16 Hola, amigoz en loz intertuboz!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 12, 2016 11:32 PM (EzgxV)

17 Yvonne DeCarlo is Italian for Ms. Hurricane Screendoor, isn't it?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 12, 2016 11:32 PM (v5iqM)

18 That strumpet looks like Lily Munster...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 12, 2016 11:33 PM (kP16F)

19 Gabe???

Posted by: andycanuck at June 12, 2016 11:33 PM (PLnZs)

20 Gilroy lost his job because the employer was afraid of Muslim backlash?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 12, 2016 11:33 PM (IqV8l)

21 18
That strumpet looks like Lily Munster...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 12, 2016 11:33 PM (kP16F)

She was indeed.

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 12, 2016 11:34 PM (yxupc)

22 I got Willowed I think in the last thread. I was discussing my WH secretary:

No, she's intelligent as hell, not a bimbo. But utterly debauched.
Everything she says can be interpreted as some innuendo. As Mick Jagger
said, she'd make a dead man come. (Note that I am describing my fantasy
woman here....)

I think ol' Ed Henry got caught horndogging
around recently. Ed Henry! Imagine him in there, tongue tied. He can't
talk. He's hunched over covering the bulge with something.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 12, 2016 11:34 PM (DW+jj)

23 Tomorrow will be interesting.

Posted by: eman at June 12, 2016 11:34 PM (MQEz6)

24
Yvonne de Carlo hair-flip at 1:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuNWf3eTr9Y

Posted by: iforgot at June 12, 2016 11:35 PM (5o5ek)

25 Ed Henry swung a nine pound hammer.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 12, 2016 11:35 PM (IqV8l)

26
Yvonne De Carlo was a stunningly beautiful woman!

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 12, 2016 11:29 PM (yxupc)

She also made great biscuits and got roaringly drunk with The Duke in the movie McLintock!.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 12, 2016 11:35 PM (LuZz8)

27 Yvonne De Boner, I say

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 12, 2016 11:35 PM (dBmVV)

28 How Democrats Win Debates By Corrupting The English Language

'loopholes', 'stealing' and 'bans'.

Pretty sure they learned this from journalists.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 12, 2016 11:35 PM (+lVUW)

29 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/742040759512207360

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/742040982162690049

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/742041233510531072

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/742041492684967936

Posted by: kbdabear at June 12, 2016 11:35 PM (Ih1Fw)

30 Remember kids I take this crown to protect YOU from it.

NGU step up your A-game buddy save ME>

Posted by: sven10077 at June 12, 2016 11:36 PM (g8Hfr)

31 Yvonne DeCarlo...
from the Munsters?
but the eyebrows are just weird.

She was good.

Posted by: Farmer at June 12, 2016 11:36 PM (o/90i)

32 More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/742041676672339968

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/742042429109510144

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/742042635427319808

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/742043063107870720

Posted by: kbdabear at June 12, 2016 11:37 PM (Ih1Fw)

33 Gawker getting flushed is about the only good news I've seen all day. The more news that comes out today about the goat-fucking Mohammedan, the more it becomes clear that TFG's administration isn't just incompetent, it's complicit. Fuck them all straight to hell.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 12, 2016 11:37 PM (0mRoj)

34 They all learned it from Orwell. Who was just reporting what he foresaw...

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 12, 2016 11:38 PM (dBmVV)

35 Fucking seven fucking months fucking to fucking go.

Fuck.

Posted by: eman at June 12, 2016 11:38 PM (MQEz6)

36 Wasn't Maureen O'Hara who led the effort to get a John Wayne medallion or something issued by Congress. I think it just said, "John Wayne, American" Fuck yeah.

Oh, and my ambassadors, generals, intel spooks and all that I was going about, all in the over the top getups, will all sport a logo that simply is "AFY". America, Fuck Yeah!

And then maybe some other little saying somewhere, on their desks or something. Things like "America. We kill you in your sleep. By remote control."

America, we nuked a country once. Don't you forget it, bitch.

America, mess with the best, die like the rest.

You know, shit like that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 12, 2016 11:39 PM (DW+jj)

37
Gilroy lost his job because the employer was afraid of Muslim backlash?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 12, 2016 11:33 PM (IqV8l)
-------------------

Claimed, unconfirmed. I advise caution until Gilroy reveals how he knows what HR's reasoning was and his accounts of racism are confirmed by other G4S employees.

Posted by: iforgot at June 12, 2016 11:39 PM (5o5ek)

38 Even More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/742043328645111808

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/742043645130461188

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/742043932876541953

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/742044374754807809

Posted by: kbdabear at June 12, 2016 11:39 PM (Ih1Fw)

39 Number four on the wall of shame. Damn.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 12, 2016 11:39 PM (0mRoj)

40 Fucking watch you fucking foul fucking mouth, Eman.

Fucker.

/snrk

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 12, 2016 11:39 PM (v5iqM)

41 Yevonne DeCarlo had great biscuits!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2016 11:40 PM (08Znv)

42 At least Ace didn't make top ten sock puppeteers... again...

Posted by: The Socking Hat at June 12, 2016 11:40 PM (vBeA5)

43 50 people were murdered last night, they had family & friends who loved them. I care nothing of The Narrative

Posted by: kbdabear at June 12, 2016 11:40 PM (Ih1Fw)

44 What is this Ed Henry that people are referring to??

Posted by: Farmer at June 12, 2016 11:41 PM (o/90i)

45 Bulldoze every mosque in the country.

Posted by: eman at June 12, 2016 11:41 PM (MQEz6)

46 How Democrats Win Debates By Corrupting The English Language

What a c*ck up

Posted by: derit at June 12, 2016 11:41 PM (OC+TJ)

47 Hey everybody.

Welp, I told my sane bro-in-law about my finding out that my all-time favorite Chicago hot dog place, Mustard's, closed down for good. His response?:

"Guess they couldn't mustard enough business, it's a dog-gone shame. I don't relish this news. Well, will have to ketchup with you later."

I tells ya, I don't get no respect! No respect at all...

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 12, 2016 11:42 PM (q7T0y)

48 Tomorrow will be interesting.

Posted by: eman at June 12, 2016 11:34 PM (MQEz6)

If by interesting you mean how the Left will deflect Orlando into a discussion of gun control and "hate" while completely ignoring Islam.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 12, 2016 11:42 PM (2TUVm)

49 *fires up bulldozer while eating a pork sammich*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 12, 2016 11:42 PM (89T5c)

50
Bulldoze every mosque in the country.

Posted by: eman at June 12, 2016 11:41 PM (MQEz6)

That's a lot of prime real estate. Perfect for that Artisan Bacon Restaurant franchise.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 12, 2016 11:42 PM (LuZz8)

51 There is a mosque in SF near Japan Town.

You can feel the pulsating evil in it.

Like the green glow of the Illearth Stone.

Posted by: eman at June 12, 2016 11:42 PM (MQEz6)

52
What is this Ed Henry that people are referring to??
Posted by: Farmer

Ed Henry was a steel drivin' man.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 12, 2016 11:43 PM (IqV8l)

53 I think Mark Steyn is in for Rush tomorrow

Posted by: Jake at June 12, 2016 11:43 PM (AFayw)

54 Never made the Wall of Shame. Not even close. I'm OK with that.

Surprised the Ewok came in at 18, doesn't seem like he comments all THAT much. But when he does, it's like he's firing off mortar rounds, I guess.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 12, 2016 11:43 PM (dBmVV)

55
I think Mark Steyn is in for Rush tomorrow
Posted by: Jake

Correct

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 12, 2016 11:43 PM (IqV8l)

56
48 Tomorrow will be interesting.

Posted by: eman at June 12, 2016 11:34 PM (MQEz6)

If by interesting you mean how the Left will deflect Orlando into a discussion of gun control and "hate" while completely ignoring Islam.
Posted by: cm9000 at June 12, 2016 11:42 PM (2TUVm)

That, but I really meant Trump's speech.

Posted by: eman at June 12, 2016 11:43 PM (MQEz6)

57 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

Imagine there's no burlap
It's easy if you try
Imagine all the womenz!

Posted by: t-bird at June 12, 2016 11:44 PM (w35Hj)

58 Eman.
Is one of those a verb?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2016 11:44 PM (08Znv)

59 Gawker declares bankrupcy.

Hulk Hogan won't get a penny.

Posted by: Emmanual the Estancion at June 12, 2016 11:44 PM (M5YIm)

60 There's an "Islamic Center" in Cypress, California. Doesn't call itself a mosque for whatever reason.

Whenever I pass by it, I always joke (if I'm with someone), it probably has more undercover FBI members these days than actual members. (I never see anyone anywhere near it.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 12, 2016 11:44 PM (q7T0y)

61 So this jagoff-who-shall-not-be-named and the San Bernadine shooters.

Think anyone at the FBI is realizing that they are just the Shrillary pass away from being the Keystone Cops in the public conscious?

Not that they'll change mind you, but just that they realize it?

Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at June 12, 2016 11:44 PM (Ojki1)

62 59 Gawker declares bankrupcy.

Hulk Hogan won't get a penny.
Posted by: Emmanual the Estancion at June 12, 2016 11:44 PM (M5YIm)

As an unsecured creditor he probably won't get much of anything. Gawker's destruction was the endgame, and it was glorious.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 12, 2016 11:45 PM (0mRoj)

63 33 Gawker getting flushed is about the only good news I've seen all day. The more news that comes out today about the goat-fucking Mohammedan, the more it becomes clear that TFG's administration isn't just incompetent, it's complicit. Fuck them all straight to hell.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 12, 2016 11:37 PM (0mRoj)

You mean, because they consider a couple of Baptist bakeries not wanting to bake cakes for gay weddings a bigger problem than members of a certain non-Christian religion thinking gay people should all be killed?

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 12, 2016 11:45 PM (+lVUW)

64 I just used a word in a comment that ace has been debating at length, as recently as Friday (variation on the word cuckold). In fact, the word is still on the front page in the sidebar now. I did not used the word to call someone a name. I just used the word as an example of how it isn't just the Left that plays the game of corrupting the meaning of words to win a debate. My comment was disappeared. Kind of makes my point. Not even allowed to use the word in the discussion of language corruption.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 12, 2016 11:45 PM (R+30W)

65
Gawker declares bankrupcy.

Hulk Hogan won't get a penny.

Posted by: Emmanual the Estancion at June 12, 2016 11:44 PM (M5YIm)

I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a shit about the money. And I KNOW that Peter Thiel doesn't.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 12, 2016 11:46 PM (LuZz8)

66 62 59 Gawker declares bankrupcy.

Hulk Hogan won't get a penny.
Posted by: Emmanual the Estancion at June 12, 2016 11:44 PM (M5YIm)

As an unsecured creditor he probably won't get much of anything. Gawker's destruction was the endgame, and it was glorious.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 12, 2016 11:45 PM (0mRoj)

Hogan is an ahole. Destroying Gawker without enriching Hogan is what I call a great outcome.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (P8951)

67 Everybody relax, I'm here.

Posted by: DC in River City, Team Mattis at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (e+1S5)

68 "Guess they couldn't mustard enough business, it's a dog-gone shame. I don't relish this news. Well, will have to ketchup with you later."

Your brother-in-law is Seamus Muldoon?

Posted by: small world at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (uhIjp)

69 Democrats aren't corrupting the language, and they're winning debates on the substance of issues.

For example: Health care. President Obama and the Democrats have made it easy for regular people like me to get health care. And now that I have health care, I can go see a doctor. Because you can't get an appointment with a doctor or go to the hospital unless you first have health care.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (xf7Kc)

70 60 There's an "Islamic Center" in Cypress, California. Doesn't call itself a mosque for whatever reason.

Whenever I pass by it, I always joke (if I'm with someone), it probably has more undercover FBI members these days than actual members. (I never see anyone anywhere near it.)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 12, 2016 11:44 PM (q7T0y)

I sure hope that's the case, but given the Islamic infestation of the Federal government I wouldn't bet on it.

Posted by: rickl at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (sdi6R)

71 This is the last website/blog I really care about.

And there won't be another

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (dBmVV)

72 >>> Of course. Because it's my nature explained the ideological asshole.

He also shoehorned himself into the historic narrative of Hamilton tonight at the Tonys. Because of course.

Now they are doing unclever Donald Trump jokes. Book of Moron starring Donald Trump, how inventive!!!!!!

Posted by: LizLem at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (mcqKT)

73 63 33 Gawker getting flushed is about the only good news I've seen all day. The more news that comes out today about the goat-fucking Mohammedan, the more it becomes clear that TFG's administration isn't just incompetent, it's complicit. Fuck them all straight to hell.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 12, 2016 11:37 PM (0mRoj)

You mean, because they consider a couple of Baptist bakeries not wanting to bake cakes for gay weddings a bigger problem than members of a certain non-Christian religion thinking gay people should all be killed?

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 12, 2016 11:45 PM (+lVUW)

Not just that but the Feds had this guy on their radar and the cocksuckers didnt do a fucking thing.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (0mRoj)

74 59 Gawker declares bankrupcy.
Hulk Hogan won't get a penny.
Posted by: Emmanual the Estancion at June 12, 2016 11:44 PM (M5YIm)

There's also the personal judgement against Nick Denton.

Posted by: Maetenloch at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (wqVD1)

75
Everybody relax, I'm here.

Posted by: DC in River City, Team Mattis at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (e+1S5)

Hey, that's my line.

Posted by: Jack Burton at June 12, 2016 11:48 PM (LuZz8)

76 WOOOOO!!

Pittsburgh Penguins win Stanley Cup #4!!!

I'm at work, so I have to tone down my fan boy cheering. A frumpy middle aged guy dancing awkardly around in a SCIF is probably a fireable offence.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 12, 2016 11:48 PM (syGA0)

77 I just noticed that link about the pension debt. It was unsustainable anyway, but the Fed's money printing, ZIRP for the past near 10 years has killed the pension funds, accelerating it. All this debt is basically lies. It cannot be paid back, and what keeps things going is covering it up. That's all the Fed and the boys are doing, trying to keep the fact that there are trillions in bad debt out there that will never be repaid.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 12, 2016 11:48 PM (DW+jj)

78
Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

Imagine there's no burlap
It's easy if you try
Imagine all the womenz!
Posted by: t-bird

Swimwear

https://youtu.be/5CaMUfxVJVQ

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 12, 2016 11:48 PM (IqV8l)

79 34 They all learned it from Orwell. Who was just reporting what he foresaw...

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 12, 2016 11:38 PM (dBmVV)

Actually, Orwell had seen a lot of it in Burma.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 12, 2016 11:49 PM (EzgxV)

80
Fucking seven fucking months fucking to fucking go.

Fuck.
Posted by: eman at June 12, 2016 11:38 PM (MQEz6)---------------------

Enjoy them.

- Obama has canceled out on joining Hillary in some appearance in Wisconsin on Wednesday. I say he's sick of taking heat and he's letting the wrinkly rich white lady fend for herself.

- Obama was so high today he had to delay his paint-by-numbers 3-minute speech about four times.

- Trump is going to pwn Hillary tomorrow in an epic speech in which he says all the things we've been begging Our Betters to say since 9/11/2001. Her drink words will be "and" and "the."

- Bernie Sanders will fight all the way to the convention.

- Jeb Who?

And that's just this week.

Posted by: iforgot at June 12, 2016 11:49 PM (5o5ek)

81 Every mosque is a weapons depot and a terrorist training and recruitment center.

No?

Okay, let's bulldoze them all and see.

Posted by: eman at June 12, 2016 11:49 PM (MQEz6)

82 rickl, I *never* hear about any trouble at that IC, so what that tells me is... something's being done right.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 12, 2016 11:49 PM (q7T0y)

83 South Side going crazy, Puddlegum.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 12, 2016 11:50 PM (89T5c)

84 >>>This is the last website/blog I really care about.

I'm right there with you. I used to read 10-15 websites weekly. Now, if it's not on the HQ it didn't happen.

Posted by: DC in River City, Team Mattis at June 12, 2016 11:50 PM (e+1S5)

85
It cannot be paid back, and what keeps things going is covering it up.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

Can it be covered up forever? If not, when does the bubble burst?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 12, 2016 11:50 PM (IqV8l)

86 Speaking of Ed Henry, I noticed he always had this little smirk on his face. Every time they'd cut to him, he'd be standing there with this little smirk on his face, like the little schoolboy who'd just put a whoopie cushion in the teacher's chair and could hardly contain himself waiting for her to sit.

Now, I think I know what he was smirking about.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 12, 2016 11:51 PM (DW+jj)

87 Democrats aren't corrupting the language, and they're winning debates on the substance of issues.

For example: Health care. President Obama and the Democrats have
made it easy for regular people like me to get health care. And now that
I have health care, I can go see a doctor. Because you can't get an
appointment with a doctor or go to the hospital unless you first have
health care.
.Posted by: FireHorse at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (xf7Kc)

You forgot the sarc tag,

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at June 12, 2016 11:51 PM (0uRNV)

88
Swimwear

https://youtu.be/5CaMUfxVJVQ

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 12, 2016 11:48 PM (IqV8l)

Damn, I KNEW which vid you were putting up, even before clicking.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 12, 2016 11:51 PM (LuZz8)

89 Not too far in the future, the MSM will spontaneously, simultaneously ask 'Is the idea of cash currency outdated?' " Let's investigate.....

Cue Idiocracy EBT cards for all

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 12, 2016 11:52 PM (dBmVV)

90 For example: Health care. President Obama and
the Democrats have made it easy for regular people like me to get health
care. And now that I have health care, I can go see a doctor. Because
you can't get an appointment with a doctor or go to the hospital unless
you first have health care.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (xf7Kc)

I'm assuming by health care, you mean health insurance. Obama didn't make it easier to get. He just passed a law that said you have to buy it or be taxed for not buying it. Said law made it even more expensive.

I don't consider that helpful.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 12, 2016 11:52 PM (HalrA)

91 Think anyone at the FBI is realizing that they are just the
Shrillary pass away from being the Keystone Cops in the public
conscious?

I haven't seen any evidence that there is anyone left in the Federal Government with an ounce of fealty to the constitution.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 12, 2016 11:52 PM (2TUVm)

92 51 There is a mosque in SF near Japan Town.

You can feel the pulsating evil in it.

Like the green glow of the Illearth Stone.
Posted by: eman

I ain't goin' nowhere near that place.

Posted by: Thomas Covenant at June 12, 2016 11:52 PM (syGA0)

93 Annoying to read above that James Corden is going for the Trump jokes. He already does too many of them on the Late Late Show.

He's funny, I like him sometimes, but he's a complete asshole about politics. Guess I'll stick with late-night King of Queens reruns at TV Land.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 12, 2016 11:52 PM (q7T0y)

94 A break from reality, summer fun ... and which Moron is that in the background?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hckyruo

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 12, 2016 11:52 PM (JXE+z)

95 A new life awaits you in the off-world colonies.

I wish.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 12, 2016 11:53 PM (gyKtp)

96 They're interviewing Cuba Gooding Jr. On the ice in SAn Jose. Who knew he was a hockey fan?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 12, 2016 11:53 PM (89T5c)

97 Germane to nothing: My kitten just went up to the television screen and tried to punch Joel Osteen in the face.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 12, 2016 11:53 PM (xf7Kc)

98 There is a huge big mosque on I75 just south of Toledo. Beautiful place. I have never seen one car in the parking lot.

Posted by: Emmanual the Estancion at June 12, 2016 11:54 PM (M5YIm)

99 97 Germane to nothing: My kitten just went up to the television screen and tried to punch Joel Osteen in the face.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 12, 2016 11:53 PM (xf7Kc)

Your cat has good sense.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 12, 2016 11:54 PM (0mRoj)

100 Patina and Cato, thanks for responding. Now we get the fun of:

1. Witnessing FireHorse's lib tantrum meltdown; and
2. The epic skinning, burning, drawing, and quartering of said troll.

DC mentioned above how this is one of the last blogs he frequents a lot. Same here, because I love how good everyone is at flambe-ing the idiots who wander in.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 12, 2016 11:54 PM (q7T0y)

101
I think Mark Steyn is in for Rush tomorrow
Posted by: Jake

Correct
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 12, 2016 11:43 PM (IqV8l)
----------------

Bleah. I'll actually get some work done in that case.

Posted by: iforgot at June 12, 2016 11:55 PM (5o5ek)

102 I don't know how long the bubble will last. No one does, and anyone predicting it is likely wrong.

Economics is part laws of physics, objective reality, and part psychology, the human mind and belief. It's this latter than defies the former and makes things unpredictable completely.

Imagine if the planets didn't have to follow the laws of gravity all the time. They might "believe in" inverse cube, or not be attracted at all. Sort of. But yet gravity always wins in the end.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 12, 2016 11:55 PM (DW+jj)

103 There is a huge big mosque on I75 just south of Toledo. Beautiful place. I have never seen one car in the parking lot.

Posted by: Emmanual the Estancion at June 12, 2016 11:54 PM (M5YIm)

They all have magic carpets. Cars are haram.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 12, 2016 11:55 PM (LuZz8)

104 Thanks for playing, FuckHorse.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 12, 2016 11:56 PM (89T5c)

105
A new life awaits you in the off-world colonies.

Leave the Bronx.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 12, 2016 11:56 PM (IqV8l)

106 60 There's an "Islamic Center" in Cypress, California. Doesn't call itself a mosque for whatever reason.

Mosques in America are always called Islamic Center. Islamic Cultural Center, Islamic Society, and the like. They never put the word 'mosque' in the name.

Posted by: scoville at June 12, 2016 11:56 PM (0adl+)

107 77 I just noticed that link about the pension debt. It was unsustainable anyway, but the Fed's money printing, ZIRP for the past near 10 years has killed the pension funds, accelerating it. All this debt is basically lies. It cannot be paid back, and what keeps things going is covering it up. That's all the Fed and the boys are doing, trying to keep the fact that there are trillions in bad debt out there that will never be repaid.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 12, 2016 11:48 PM (DW+jj)

And the only thing that can kickstart the economy is when it becomes properly valued (at $0).

Posted by: cthulhu at June 12, 2016 11:56 PM (EzgxV)

108 Not that it's unwarranted but, I predict that Mark Levin will inadvertently destroy a lot of car speakers tomorrow.

When that guy gets pissed, it's like trying to listen to a bullhorn siren at point-blank range.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 12, 2016 11:56 PM (q7T0y)

109 A sequel to Passion of the Christ?

wut?

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2016 11:57 PM (qUNWi)

110 Sure FireHorse, now you can get healthcare. By the way, how much do you pay a year? How much are the deductibles? I get to pay right around $7,000 a year with a $2,000 deductible. Just for me. I wonder how much of my premium goes to subsidizing your cheap healthcare.

Posted by: Old Blue at June 12, 2016 11:58 PM (9iR5/)

111 If by interesting you mean how the Left will deflect Orlando into a discussion of gun control and "hate" while completely ignoring Islam.
Posted by: cm9000 at June 12, 2016 11:42 PM (2TUVm)

Problem with gun control as an answer to this incident is that if we had effective gun control, Muslims, being what they are, would simply push gay people off buildings.
Guns don't kill people, Muslim terrorists kill people.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 12, 2016 11:58 PM (+lVUW)

112 Annoying to read above that James Corden is going for the Trump jokes. He already does too many of them on the Late Late Show.

He's funny, I like him sometimes, but he's a complete asshole about
politics. Guess I'll stick with late-night King of Queens reruns at TV
Land.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 12, 2016 11:52 PM (q7T0y)

Doing the same jokes every other comedian does and putting exalted figures off-limits makes him Edgy.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 12, 2016 11:58 PM (2TUVm)

113 72---Now they are doing unclever Donald Trump jokes. Book of Moron starring Donald Trump, how inventive!!!!!!
Posted by: LizLem at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (mcqKT)
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Ah, I see. They're outsourcing joke-writing to fourth-graders in Berkeley.
Broadway is sooooo sophisticated!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 12, 2016 11:58 PM (T/5A0)

114 The kittehs hate Osteen?

Cats hate obsequious.

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2016 11:58 PM (qUNWi)

115 eleven, yup.

"Jesus Returns: This Time It's Personal!!"
:-P

Buzz on the street in Hollywood is that Jim Caviezel is unavailable, so Christ will be played by Steven Seagal.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 12, 2016 11:58 PM (q7T0y)

116 A sequel to Passion of the Christ?

The Last Extemporization of Christ

Posted by: derit at June 12, 2016 11:59 PM (OC+TJ)

117 85
It cannot be paid back, and what keeps things going is covering it up.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

Can it be covered up forever? If not, when does the bubble burst?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 12, 2016 11:50 PM (IqV8l)

All government debt is a promise to tax the ever-lovin' shit outta someone next Thursday. It'll burst when people go, "wait a minute....I'm going to be here next Thursday -- and I don't have any multibillionaires moving-in next to me."

Posted by: cthulhu at June 12, 2016 11:59 PM (EzgxV)

118 83 South Side going crazy, Puddlegum.

I bet!

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 12, 2016 11:59 PM (syGA0)

119 Yvonne De Carlo:

That's Lily Munster? Dang! Didn't realize how good I had it as a kid.

Posted by: t-bird at June 13, 2016 12:00 AM (eeTCA)

120 Corden's saving grace on the Late Late Show? He does a lot of sketches portraying himself as an egotistical buffoon.

It's not enough, but some of them are funny.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:00 AM (q7T0y)

121 Welp, I told my sane bro-in-law about my finding out that my all-time favorite Chicago hot dog place, Mustard's, closed down for good. His response?:
"Guess they couldn't mustard enough business, it's a dog-gone shame. I don't relish this news. Well, will have to ketchup with you later."

I tells ya, I don't get no respect! No respect at all...

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 12, 2016 11:42 PM (q7T0y)

Look, it could've been worse. BiL could've said: "That's why I'm voting for Bernie: he'll guarantee free hot dogs and tax Big Catsup and Big Sauerkraut to pay for it. It'll be great! Eat hot dogs and feel the Bern."

No, I'd say you got off lucky.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 13, 2016 12:00 AM (IWpxJ)

122 Political leaders in North American and Europe who allow Muslim immigration are guilty of the greatest act of treason in all of human history.

Each and every one of them, regardless of party, deserves to be forcibly dragged from their offices and hanged from lampposts.

I only hope I live long enough to be an active participant in said activity.

Posted by: rickl at June 13, 2016 12:00 AM (sdi6R)

123 I'm assuming by health care, you mean health insurance.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 12, 2016 11:52 PM (HalrA)
________

Huh? No, I meant health care (which might be one word - healthcare - an error of mine which may be the source of your confusion.) Healthcare is how you pay for health care. Most people don't get the health care they need because they don't have healthcare. Or the other way around - I forget.

The point is that there's no corruption of the language going on.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 13, 2016 12:01 AM (xf7Kc)

124 James Corden doing a Hotel Heck sketch with Gordan Ramsay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N41_uJ8AnmI

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:01 AM (q7T0y)

125
Economics is part laws of physics, objective reality, and part psychology, the human mind and belief. It's this latter than defies the former and makes things unpredictable completely.

I recently watched an old Avengers episode from the 1960's where some college students and professors were killing British economists who had some magic formula that would unite all of Europe into an economic utopia.

I wonder how they will vote on said utopia?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 13, 2016 12:01 AM (IqV8l)

126 GnuBreed, this might bring a smile to you.

P-51D-5-NA 44-13897 of the 363rd FS/357th FG/VIII AF Fighter Command. Flown by Capt. Charles K. Peters of Biloxi, MS

http://preview.tinyurl.com/grblcvd

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 13, 2016 12:01 AM (JXE+z)

127 Buzz on the street in Hollywood is that Jim Caviezel is unavailable, so Christ will be played by Steven Seagal.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 12, 2016 11:58 PM (q7T0y)

I heard it was Brian Dennehy.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 13, 2016 12:01 AM (IWpxJ)

128 Passion II, The Leavening:

He Rises.

*looks for asbestos eternity suit*

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 13, 2016 12:01 AM (v5iqM)

129 "Passion of the Christ 2: The Second Coming"

Sorry...hadda...

Posted by: scoville at June 13, 2016 12:02 AM (0adl+)

130 Oregon, LOL.

Although at a lot of places, they already have to give away the kraut for free... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:02 AM (q7T0y)

131 Yay Arya!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 13, 2016 12:02 AM (6FqZa)

132 Corden is A LOUD YELLING GAY MAN YAYYYYY!!!!!!

I don't get the appeal.

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 12:02 AM (qUNWi)

133 Huh? No, I meant health care (which might be one word - healthcare - an error of mine which may be the source of your confusion.) Healthcare is how you pay for health care. Most people don't get the health care they need because they don't have healthcare. Or the other way around - I forget.

You're not making any sense.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2016 12:02 AM (0mRoj)

134 Oregon, Brian plays Jesus' dad.

Oh wait...

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:02 AM (q7T0y)

135 I wonder how much of my premium goes to subsidizing your cheap healthcare.

Posted by: Old Blue at June 12, 2016 11:58 PM (9iR5/)
________

Just to be clear, are we talking about my health care or my health care?

Posted by: FireHorse at June 13, 2016 12:02 AM (xf7Kc)

136
And the only thing that can kickstart the economy is when it becomes properly valued (at $0).
Posted by: cthulhu at June 12, 2016 11:56 PM (EzgxV)

Actually it has been found that a printed fiat currency levels at about the cost to produce it if the bills don't get made in larger and larger denominations.

Personally I expect two or so rounds of the Argentine plan: a couple of revaluations (haircut you see) followed by a sort of hard currency.

Of course since the banksters and politicians love giving themselves free money they will start printing again "because inflation is essential to the economy" and "Keynes says . . ."

Posted by: Kindltot at June 13, 2016 12:02 AM (ry34m)

137 For example: Health care. President Obama and the Democrats have made it easy for regular people like me to get health care. And now that I have health care, I can go see a doctor. Because you can't get an appointment with a doctor or go to the hospital unless you first have health care.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (xf7Kc)

Smirk.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 13, 2016 12:03 AM (+lVUW)

138 Shit. One more time.

Huh? No, I meant health care (which might be one word - healthcare - an error of mine which may be the source of your confusion.) Healthcare is how you pay for health care. Most people don't get the health care they need because they don't have healthcare. Or the other way around - I forget.

Again, you're not making any sense.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2016 12:03 AM (0mRoj)

139 115 >> Buzz on the street in Hollywood is that Jim Caviezel is unavailable, so Christ will be played by Steven Seagal.

Well it's not like Seagull is busy nowadays.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 13, 2016 12:03 AM (gyKtp)

140 The basic problem is the belief that some "magic economic formula" is possible. These central planning weasels (I'm looking at you Yellen and the Fed) all have this belief.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 12:03 AM (DW+jj)

141 Believe it or not, Corden is *not* gay. Supposedly he just had a baby daughter with his wife too.

He gives off the vibe he wishes he was, though. Wouldn't surprise me if he "comes out" a few years after he's washed up.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:03 AM (q7T0y)

142 Trump's speeches have been disastrous.. they are amazingly bad this past week..
I look forward to the next several nails in the coffin tomorrow..

His tweets today claiming credit for predicting Islamic attacks was epic stupid.

Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at June 13, 2016 12:03 AM (UpGcq)

143 Just watched "Risen" the other night, it wasn't very good.

Posted by: Ray, it's just Ray Period at June 13, 2016 12:03 AM (LKFFy)

144 You're not making any sense.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2016 12:02 AM (0mRoj)
________

I just won this debate.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 13, 2016 12:04 AM (xf7Kc)

145 God is Brian Dennehey.

But we all knew that.

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 12:04 AM (qUNWi)

146
Inflation is the only way out of the pension fund trap.

But Obama's anti business regulations have made inflation inoperative. So what inflation there is in food prices, the stock market, car prices, is only barely covering up the on going deflation since the housing bust.

What deflation, you ask? 98 million people in the country don't have jobs.

OH, and Obama has found a way to nudge that number somehow.

Posted by: Emmanual the Estancion at June 13, 2016 12:04 AM (M5YIm)

147 There are still people in America who think Islam means peace.

Posted by: Jake at June 13, 2016 12:04 AM (AFayw)

148 cm9000, yup re Corden.

Still miss Ferguson, for whom there were *no* sacred cows whatsoever. Then again... maybe that's why CBS drove him away.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:05 AM (q7T0y)

149 I just won this debate.

No you didn't.

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 12:05 AM (qUNWi)

150 Craig Ferguson, that is.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:05 AM (q7T0y)

151 Posted by: FireHorse at June 13, 2016 12:04 AM (xf7Kc)

How does erroneously referring to health insurance as "healthcare" win any debate?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2016 12:05 AM (0mRoj)

152 Not just that but the Feds had this guy on their radar and the cocksuckers didnt do a fucking thing.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 12, 2016 11:47 PM (0mRoj)

Well, if he didn't refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding, there really wasn't any reason to bother with him.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 13, 2016 12:05 AM (+lVUW)

153 Hi everyone, just got back from a weekend out of town. And I find that the air-conditioning isn't working.

Now, for a caveman or an Amish person, I suspect this would not be a problem.

Kinda is here, though. Just to note, cat is alive and well. And I have (self installed) ceiling fans. Probably won't die.

PS: I was told I kinda seem "rude" here because I post a comment here and there and don't acknowledge follow-ups. So let me explain this a bit.

Generally, when I read a post at AOS, I'm usually "Hey that's great" and I go on.

Sometimes, I think, "Hey, I can add to that," or "Hey, I can offer this objection to that," or even "Hey, I thought of something funny...and I can maybe adapt it to that. If I squint really hard." And I'll post a comment then.

Then I post my comment, and again, I move on to other things.

And apparently people are like "Hi!"and stuff and I never see that, and I seem like a jerk or a tosser or a wanker because I don't say "Hi! I appreciate you!" back, when, of course I mentally always do. Just to be clear, anyone who says "Hi!" when I appear is pretty much completing an application to be my girlfriend. Or boyfriend, I'm not picky.

The only time I go back to see how my comment was received is when I have said something exceptionally brilliant to see how my exceptional brilliance was received. Or not. In which case your application gets tossed into the appropriate pile!

So that's my contribution to the flaming helicopter crash from X-Men Origins Wolverine that IS the ONT.

Let it be seen as read: to those who say HI I say HI back.

And I love you all. I'm not picky. It's too hot to be picky, but that's not the only reason! Damn, you are complicated.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 13, 2016 12:06 AM (AroJD)

154 We need to invest language. Pay your fair share to me, and my foundation will continue its work on a contemporary dictionary to clear up all obfuscation. Will your contribution put its completion over the top? There's only one way to find out by donating as much as you can! You don't hate knowledge--do you?!

Posted by: derit at June 13, 2016 12:06 AM (OC+TJ)

155 Groceries is how you pay for groceries.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 13, 2016 12:06 AM (IqV8l)

156 Since it seems the Stupid is strong tonight, I think I'll go do other stuff.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 13, 2016 12:06 AM (JXE+z)

157 I just won this debate.
No you didn't.

We aren't allowed to argue here, nobody has paid.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 13, 2016 12:07 AM (6FqZa)

158 How does erroneously referring to health insurance as "healthcare" win any debate?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2016 12:05 AM (0mRoj)

Never argue with a fool. After a while the spectators can't remember which one you are.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 13, 2016 12:07 AM (ry34m)

159 FireHorse is a moron in good standing. Secure your weapons.

Posted by: DC in River City, Team Mattis at June 13, 2016 12:07 AM (e+1S5)

160 140 The basic problem is the belief that some "magic economic formula" is possible. These central planning weasels (I'm looking at you Yellen and the Fed) all have this belief.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 12:03 AM (DW+jj)

There is such a "magic economic formula", it has been shown over-and-over again to work, it is time-tested and never fails. Unfortunately it is not that Statist-beloved claptrap peddled by Marx or Keynes -- it was documented by Adam Smith and further explicated by and Hayek and Mises.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 12:08 AM (EzgxV)

161 If you lived in a cave you wouldn't need air conditioning. You might need a dehumidifier.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 13, 2016 12:08 AM (IqV8l)

162 Near me, a former Episcopal church is now an "Islamic Awareness Center"...

The original congregation split with ECUSA over gay marriage, lost the court battle over ownership of the building to ECUSA who then sold it to the caliphate!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 13, 2016 12:08 AM (kP16F)

163 Pencil Necked Geek! A staple of the Dr Demento show. Even more than "Grandma got run over by a reindeer."

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:08 AM (iMxBJ)

164 If you lived in a cave you wouldn't need air conditioning. You might need a dehumidifier.

And bear insurance . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 13, 2016 12:09 AM (6FqZa)

165
Overwrought WIRED: Gawker's Bankruptcy Is How a Free Press Dies, One VC at a Time

by Marcus Wohlsen

Who has a face that was just made to be punched:

[pic] https://tinyurl.com/zqhhv6g

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 13, 2016 12:09 AM (kdS6q)

166 144 You're not making any sense.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2016 12:02 AM (0mRoj)
________

I just won this debate.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 13, 2016 12:04 AM (xf7Kc)

Doubleplusungood bellyfeel.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 12:09 AM (EzgxV)

167 164 If you lived in a cave you wouldn't need air conditioning. You might need a dehumidifier.

And bear insurance . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 13, 2016 12:09 AM (6FqZa)

Bearcare, apparently.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2016 12:09 AM (0mRoj)

168 There has actually been inflation. It's just not generalized (well, they're playing games with the CPI -- been to the grocery store lately? -- but this is not the main thing).

All that money printing went into the stock market, and to keep the value of that bad debt I was talking overvalued. That was it's purpose. Keep the piles of dog shit on the balance sheets from being recognized as dog shit, and valued properly at $0.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 12:09 AM (DW+jj)

169 Ohhh...bear insurance is gonna cost ya.

Oh yeah.

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 12:10 AM (qUNWi)

170 169 eleven

Just ask Leo....

Posted by: speedster1 at June 13, 2016 12:11 AM (vUcdz)

171 I think FireHorse is kidding but it's hard to tell sometimes in these days before Rectification Of Names.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 13, 2016 12:11 AM (6FqZa)

172
Honorable Mention: 18 [302 comments] 'ace'

Consider this place the methadone for twitter addiction.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 13, 2016 12:11 AM (kdS6q)

173 Just ask Leo....

We don't insure him anymore.

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 12:11 AM (qUNWi)

174 Bear insurance make the bears stay away, come, or just compensate for damages for appearance of said bears?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 13, 2016 12:12 AM (ry34m)

175 If you lived in a cave you wouldn't need air conditioning. You might need a dehumidifier

and fire. Living undergound is cold without fire. Unless you go really really deep.

Posted by: Emmanual the Estancion at June 13, 2016 12:12 AM (M5YIm)

176 Obama increased the federal debt by $8 trillion. Borrowing that much money and injecting it into the economy should have had us all swinging from chandeliers drinking champagne. That the economy just barely limped along the whole time shows how hollowed out the underlying economy has become.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at June 13, 2016 12:13 AM (X4FeV)

177 Alan Grayson who lies more than Obama told Jeanine Piro that the terrorist bought a weapon of mass destruction ,a gun that can fire 700 rounds a minute. That whopper is the biggest lie I've heard today. Piro seemed surprised to learn that even when you have a cc permit when you buy a gun you still have a big form to fill out and it gets submitted for instant background check

Posted by: Jen the original at June 13, 2016 12:13 AM (O1RmZ)

178 168 There has actually been inflation. It's just not generalized (well, they're playing games with the CPI -- been to the grocery store lately? -- but this is not the main thing).

All that money printing went into the stock market, and to keep the value of that bad debt I was talking overvalued. That was it's purpose. Keep the piles of dog shit on the balance sheets from being recognized as dog shit, and valued properly at $0.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 12:09 AM (DW+jj)

One could add "rectification of asset values" to "rectification of names"....

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 12:13 AM (EzgxV)

179 ed, bNite all. Comcast is f...ing me over, last posts are dust. So I'm off to bed, be well Morons.

Posted by: Farmer at June 13, 2016 12:14 AM (o/90i)

180 Groceries is how you pay for groceries.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 13, 2016 12:06 AM (IqV8l)
________

Honest-to-God not kidding here:

EBT cards have two options: Food, which is like traditional Food Stamps, and Cash, which can be used for stuff that isn't covered by the SNAP program. Do you know what EBT/SNAP recipients call their method of payment for groceries - for when they buy food?

They call it "food."

So food is how many people pay for food. (ISTN.)

Posted by: FireHorse at June 13, 2016 12:14 AM (xf7Kc)

181 Kindltot, I think it depends on the plan you buy. But even the lower-end plans have are some competitive options for those transitioning into becoming a bear

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 13, 2016 12:14 AM (6FqZa)

182
I just won this debate.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 13, 2016 12:04 AM (xf7Kc)
--------------

Hee hee hee, yes you did.

Posted by: iforgot at June 13, 2016 12:15 AM (5o5ek)

183 Who has a face that was just made to be punched:
https://tinyurl.com/zqhhv6g
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 13, 2016 12:09 AM (kdS6q)

Whoa. I assumed he would look punchable just because of the context of the a-hole story. But that smirk, that smirk. It begs for the face-punch, purely for the theraputic aspects. He might be a better person after the swelling goes down.

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:15 AM (iMxBJ)

184 Shouldn't it be an "Ursinance Policy," with hairy legalese to entrap you into a compliant state of hibernation?

Posted by: derit at June 13, 2016 12:15 AM (OC+TJ)

185 Bear insurance ensures your cave will have the proper amount of bears, like health insurance ensures you have the correct number of health.

Posted by: Barack Obama at June 13, 2016 12:16 AM (uhIjp)

186 176 Obama increased the federal debt by $8 trillion. Borrowing that much money and injecting it into the economy should have had us all swinging from chandeliers drinking champagne. That the economy just barely limped along the whole time shows how hollowed out the underlying economy has become.
Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at June 13, 2016 12:13 AM (X4FeV)

It also shows Obama's unerring ability to funnel money to utterly unproductive uses. The man has a gift.

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:16 AM (iMxBJ)

187 Even a caveman can figure it out.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 13, 2016 12:16 AM (IqV8l)

188 Bear insurance ensures your cave will have the proper amount of bears, like health insurance ensures you have the correct number of health.

A trillion?

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 12:16 AM (qUNWi)

189 165
Overwrought WIRED: Gawker's Bankruptcy Is How a Free Press Dies, One VC at a Time

by Marcus Wohlsen

Who has a face that was just made to be punched:

[pic] https://tinyurl.com/zqhhv6g
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 13, 2016 12:09 AM (kdS6q)

Good lord. His face must be right next to the definition of backpfeifengesicht in the German dictionary.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2016 12:16 AM (0mRoj)

190 Thanks, DC!

Posted by: FireHorse at June 13, 2016 12:17 AM (xf7Kc)

191
Overwrought WIRED: Gawker's Bankruptcy Is How a Free Press Dies, One VC at a Time

One Viet Cong at a time?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 13, 2016 12:17 AM (IqV8l)

192 I don't think these islam guys are very concerned about a backlash, since there has not been one yet,

But they still keep killing us

Posted by: Jake at June 13, 2016 12:18 AM (AFayw)

193 The federal debt is on exponential growth autopilot. It doubles every 7-8 years, like clockwork. That's about two presidential terms, so if you've got a two termer, he doubles it during his tenure. In the details, it comes in spurts and jumps, but that's the average. The human mind is not good with exponential growth.

But this is on autopilot. Entitlements and base-line budgeting programmed that autopilot.

The discrete version of exponential is geometric growth, and you can see that more easily. Each step, each increase, is greater than the sum of all before.

It gets out of hand before you know it, and you're fucked before you realize you're fucked. You're already past the point of no return before, already crossed the event horizon, before you know anything is wrong.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 12:18 AM (DW+jj)

194 His tweets today claiming credit for predicting Islamic attacks was epic stupid.

Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at June 13, 2016 12:03 AM (UpGcq)

This kind of chronic sniping never gets old. There is a freshness to it every time it is done. Again and again.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 13, 2016 12:18 AM (2TUVm)

195 @71, ghost of hallelujah: Word.

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 13, 2016 12:18 AM (kP16F)

196 Shouldn't it be an "Ursinance Policy," with hairy legalese to entrap you into a compliant state of hibernation?

Posted by: derit at June 13, 2016 12:15 AM (OC+TJ)
________

No, not at all. In fact, it would be the polar opposite.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 13, 2016 12:18 AM (xf7Kc)

197 Ohhh...Polat Bear insurance....

That's gonna cost ya...

You betcha.

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 12:19 AM (qUNWi)

198 Polat bears are even worse.

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 12:20 AM (qUNWi)

199 The Bear is loose. Except it turns out that that wasn't woods he was sh!tting in, it was the economy. Oh, well.

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:20 AM (iMxBJ)

200 98 There is a huge big mosque on I75 just south of Toledo. Beautiful place. I have never seen one car in the parking lot.
Posted by: Emmanual the Estancion at June 12, 2016 11:54 PM (M5YIm)

They're probably just using it for ammo storage.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 13, 2016 12:20 AM (+lVUW)

201 and maybe even bats and all that guano coming down

Posted by: the morigu at June 13, 2016 12:20 AM (Bjy3Q)

202
Obama increased the federal debt by $8 trillion. Borrowing that much money and injecting it into the economy should have had us all swinging from chandeliers drinking champagne. That the economy just barely limped along the whole time shows how hollowed out the underlying economy has become.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at June 13, 2016 12:13 AM (X4FeV)
-------------------

Can you imagine what it's going to be like when we start some serious deficit-reduction?

Speaking of caves...

Posted by: iforgot at June 13, 2016 12:21 AM (5o5ek)

203 Ed Driscoll had more today on the Sewer Line Collapse story from yesterday's Thread before the Gardening Thread. Might want to check it out if your home was built between the mid 1940s and the 1970s.

"Coal tar impregnated toilet paper tube"?

Great.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/236012/

Posted by: KT at June 13, 2016 12:21 AM (qahv/)

204 There is a series of nifty YouTube videos for a DIY sheet metal self loading pistol. Chambered in .25, but good enough for getting a better one.

This is why real gun control is futile.

Posted by: Butch at June 13, 2016 12:21 AM (hXu8T)

205 If you look at it, what happened with the response to the Crisis was the bad debt was transferred to the balance sheet of Uncle and the Fed (they can be considered the same entity, of course).

This did happen directly (TARP), but mostly it was indirect. The efforts to "save the system" were simply by making "good" on the bad debt by putting Uncle on he hook for it. The US taxpayer and the "full faith and credit of the US".

Bad private debt became bad sovereign debt. That kept the music going. But it cannot go on forever.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 12:22 AM (DW+jj)

206 189 165
Overwrought WIRED: Gawker's Bankruptcy Is How a Free Press Dies, One VC at a Time

by Marcus Wohlsen

Who has a face that was just made to be punched:

[pic] https://tinyurl.com/zqhhv6g
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 13, 2016 12:09 AM (kdS6q)

Good lord. His face must be right next to the definition of backpfeifengesicht in the German dictionary.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2016 12:16 AM (0mRoj)

I made the mistake of reading the article. That's some wasted minutes I won't ever get back.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 12:22 AM (EzgxV)

207 100 Patina and Cato, thanks for responding. Now we get the fun of:

1. Witnessing FireHorse's lib tantrum meltdown; and
2. The epic skinning, burning, drawing, and quartering of said troll.

Wait a minute. I thought he was joking. You mean he really is too stupid to know the difference between health care and health insurance?

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 13, 2016 12:22 AM (+lVUW)

208 No, not at all. In fact, it would be the polar opposite.

Don't panda to my dictionary project, it's unbearable

Posted by: derit at June 13, 2016 12:22 AM (OC+TJ)

209 168 There has been and continues to be massive inflation, but what they pick to make up the CPI doesn't use those factors.

Health Care (also healthcare)
Housing
Skilled labor
College tuition
Taxes (all forms combined)
Arable land
Water
Insurance

While median family income has declined by 5% over the last 7 years. You don't just *feel* poorer, you are poorer.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 13, 2016 12:22 AM (gyKtp)

210 198 Polat bears are even worse.

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 12:20 AM (qUNWi)

Don't even get me started on Borat bears.....

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 12:23 AM (EzgxV)

211 Always hard to tell with these things unless you are there, but the boos in San Jose - not just for the NHL President Bettman (standard, he's quite unpopular) - but at least the beginning of the skate-the-Cup ritual, were pathetic.

Sorry to any Bay area morons, but in its own way this was a classless sorry performance. Worst sort of sore loser-ship.

Stanley Cup is the oldest trophy in sports (by far, and yes you have to be human, and not on a boat), in the world, and the ritual at the final game is one of the best in sports. Probably *is* the best. Seen plenty of these things finished on the road (on TV), other guys' building, do not recall this sort of boorishness.

Given the state of the world and country, meh, but still, pathetic.

Only bigger screw up was by me. I lost track and didn't see a single game of the finals - oops. However, the pick-up scrimmage the last two weeks has been terrific, lots of ex-college players and 2 or 3 Juniors kids just about to head off to training camp in Canada. So there's that.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 13, 2016 12:23 AM (QDnY+)

212 I made the mistake of reading the article. That's some wasted minutes I won't ever get back.

One of the best responses to most liberals about their latest snit fit is "If you're offended, something must be going right."

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:23 AM (q7T0y)

213 The minute that Government started issuing inflation-adjusted payments, and inflation-adjusted bonds, it was inevitable that the official inflation rate would become a lie, to be set for the convenience of the Government, rather than a useful statistic.

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:24 AM (iMxBJ)

214 The Bear is loose. Except it turns out that that wasn't woods he was sh!tting in, it was the economy. Oh, well.

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:20 AM (iMxBJ)
________

A real sh!tstorm is bruin.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 13, 2016 12:24 AM (xf7Kc)

215 I wonder how much of my premium goes to subsidizing your cheap healthcare.
Posted by: Old Blue at June 12, 2016 11:58 PM (9iR5/)

Well, if he qualifies for medicaid or tax credits, you are also subsidizing his cheap healthcare with taxes.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 13, 2016 12:25 AM (+lVUW)

216 Can you imagine what it's going to be like when we start some serious deficit-reduction?

Speaking of caves...
Posted by: iforgot at June 13, 2016 12:21 AM (5o5ek)

We're gonna have to frack every single friggin inch of federal land to keep out of the poor house. Oh, and invade some countries and take their oil.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at June 13, 2016 12:25 AM (X4FeV)

217 194 His tweets today claiming credit for predicting Islamic attacks was epic stupid.

Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at June 13, 2016 12:03 AM (UpGcq)

This kind of chronic sniping never gets old. There is a freshness to it every time it is done. Again and again.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 13, 2016 12:18 AM (2TUVm)

You try typing with a chronic case of sand in the vagina.

Oh wait, you said sniping.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 13, 2016 12:27 AM (gyKtp)

218 205 If you look at it, what happened with the response to the Crisis was the bad debt was transferred to the balance sheet of Uncle and the Fed (they can be considered the same entity, of course).

This did happen directly (TARP), but mostly it was indirect. The efforts to "save the system" were simply by making "good" on the bad debt by putting Uncle on he hook for it. The US taxpayer and the "full faith and credit of the US".

Bad private debt became bad sovereign debt. That kept the music going. But it cannot go on forever.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 12:22 AM (DW+jj)

.....because, as noted previously, sovereign debt is EXACTLY a promise to tax the-everlovin'-shit out of someone next Thursday.

An amusing wrinkle regarding Trump (who, if anything, understands bankruptcy) is that he might take a run at taxing-the-everlovin'-shit out of anyone who benefits from a US security umbrella, or Mexican remittances, or anyone who bootlegs or jacks American IP, or Chinese manufacturers....before writing it off or reducing American citizens to penury.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 12:28 AM (EzgxV)

219 You try typing with a chronic case of sand in the vagina.

I'm not saying HRC has a lot of sand in her... nether regions, but I've heard that when she walks by, you can hear a "sh-sh-sh" sound.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:29 AM (q7T0y)

220 Sympathy for abused wives: very high
Sympathy for abused wives who married some dude who had devil horns surgically implanted into his skull: somewhat lower

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:29 AM (iMxBJ)

221 Only thing missing from horned guy's head, to make it perfect, is a contact wound from a .45 ACP.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 13, 2016 12:29 AM (GSdpU)

222 The big incentive they have to jigger the CPI is SS. Those COLAs are a bitch. They started those games back in the '90s.

Governments have always jiggered the credit markets. They set the rules. It's like the referees actually being players in the game. They set the rules for the banks and credit markets so that sovereign debt is always preferred and considered "risk free".

Rather than a market determine government's borrowing cost and ability, it is rigged so they get first access to the credit.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 12:29 AM (DW+jj)

223 219 I'm not saying HRC has a lot of sand in her... nether regions, but I've heard that when she walks by, you can hear a "sh-sh-sh" sound.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:29 AM (q7T0y)

If you put your ear up to "it," you can hear the ocean!

Posted by: Huma at June 13, 2016 12:31 AM (iMxBJ)

224
.....because, as noted previously, sovereign debt is EXACTLY a promise to tax the-everlovin'-shit out of someone next Thursday.

The magic economic formula was conceived by J. Wellington Wimpy

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 13, 2016 12:31 AM (IqV8l)

225 Yvonne De Carlo was a stunningly beautiful woman!

Posted by: Sixkiller at June 12, 2016 11:29 PM (yxupc)

Born in Vancouver, B.C. She done sucked all the beauty out of the place. I came along later.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 13, 2016 12:31 AM (GSdpU)

226 219 You try typing with a chronic case of sand in the vagina.

I'm not saying HRC has a lot of sand in her... nether regions, but I've heard that when she walks by, you can hear a "sh-sh-sh" sound.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:29 AM (q7T0y)

That is just the loose folds of skin.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 13, 2016 12:31 AM (3ZoRf)

227 He might be a better person after the swelling goes down.

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:15 AM (iMxBJ)

You know, that's just what I told Juanita.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at June 13, 2016 12:32 AM (IWpxJ)

228 huma and Aetius, yick! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:33 AM (q7T0y)

229 Meh
Needs more Yoko

Posted by: Navycopjoe at June 13, 2016 12:33 AM (EimXz)

230 Only thing missing from horned guy's head, to make it perfect, is a contact wound from a .45 ACP.

Not an arrow? "Johnny, rosin up your bow..cuz the devil's loose in 'zona"

Posted by: derit at June 13, 2016 12:34 AM (OC+TJ)

231 Posted by: sven10077 at June 12, 2016 11:36 PM (g8Hfr)

I'm sure this has been asked before, but:

Do you have a job?

Are you self employed?

Are you a rich retiree?

All of the above?

What's your secret?

Posted by: Blano at June 13, 2016 12:34 AM (lbcdD)

232 What's the difference between a "religion" and a murderous criminal conspiracy?

Posted by: Rokshox at June 13, 2016 12:34 AM (aFCVM)

233 >>205 An amusing wrinkle regarding Trump (who, if anything, understands bankruptcy) is that he might take a run at taxing-the-everlovin'-shit out of anyone who benefits from a US security umbrella, or Mexican remittances, or anyone who bootlegs or jacks American IP, or Chinese manufacturers....before writing it off or reducing American citizens to penury.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 12:28 AM (EzgxV)

... and a bill presented to Iraq for the full cost of liberating the country from Saddam, due immediately and payable in oil.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at June 13, 2016 12:34 AM (X4FeV)

234 Chelsea. That's what comes out of Hillary's cooter. And that's all you need to know about how foul it is.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 12:34 AM (DW+jj)

235 In related news, it's reported that Bill Clinton went to Red Lobster for dinner tonight.

You guessed it, he got crabs.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:35 AM (q7T0y)

236 This is cool: 'Wired' detected my script-blocking and wouldn't let me look at any of their site's content. Fine with me.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 13, 2016 12:36 AM (IWpxJ)

237 171 I think FireHorse is kidding but it's hard to tell sometimes in these days before Rectification Of Names.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 13, 2016 12:11 AM (6FqZa)

Well, then let's fix him up with Mary Cloggenstein from Battleboro, Vermont. Or is she too busy campaigning for Da Bern.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 13, 2016 12:37 AM (+lVUW)

238 218 205 If you look at it, what happened with the response to the Crisis was the bad debt was transferred to the balance sheet of Uncle and the Fed (they can be considered the same entity, of course).

This did happen directly (TARP), but mostly it was indirect. The efforts to "save the system" were simply by making "good" on the bad debt by putting Uncle on he hook for it. The US taxpayer and the "full faith and credit of the US".

Bad private debt became bad sovereign debt. That kept the music going. But it cannot go on forever.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 12:22 AM (DW+jj)

.....because, as noted previously, sovereign debt is EXACTLY a promise to tax the-everlovin'-shit out of someone next Thursday.

An amusing wrinkle regarding Trump (who, if anything, understands bankruptcy) is that he might take a run at taxing-the-everlovin'-shit out of anyone who benefits from a US security umbrella, or Mexican remittances, or anyone who bootlegs or jacks American IP, or Chinese manufacturers....before writing it off or reducing American citizens to penury.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 12:28 AM (EzgxV)

I should also point out that the US should have its pick of all the best and brightest of the world for legal immigration -- because if they stay where they are, they'll have to pay for the security umbrella, the remittances, the jacked IP, etc. We could even charge 'em a "your country fucked-up, pay to make it right" fee to immigrate. But illegal immigration should be unnoticeably small.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 12:37 AM (EzgxV)

239 ... it was inevitable that the official inflation rate would become a lie, to be set for the convenience of the Government, rather than a useful statistic.

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:24 AM (iMxBJ)
________

At least we can still trust the numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 13, 2016 12:37 AM (xf7Kc)

240 Watched "Revenant" last night. That dude needed bear insurance!

Posted by: Ray, it's just Ray Period at June 13, 2016 12:37 AM (LKFFy)

241 I see Milo Y. will be hosting a townhall meeting at Orlando this week.

Stay safe, Milo! It's not just the Muzzies who would like to see you dead.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 13, 2016 12:37 AM (P8951)

242
You try typing with a chronic case of sand in the vagina.
Posted by: GnuBreed

"Cooch dunes"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 13, 2016 12:39 AM (kdS6q)

243 Occupational outlook for layabouts remains flat...unpossible!

Posted by: derit at June 13, 2016 12:40 AM (OC+TJ)

244 BLS = Bureau of Lies and Statistics.

You know the old saw: There are lies, damned lies, and then there are statistics.

I was reading a piece a while back by some economist type. He worked for some damn outfit, maybe an airline, I can't remember. But they were using government economic stats to make predictions. He said that by the early 90s or mid 90s, those predictions starting failing, being off by more than usual.

His opinion was that was when the govt. started really lying with the economic numbers, and it wasn't their models. It was bad data being fed into those models.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 12:40 AM (DW+jj)

245 Meh
Needs more Yoko

Never taunt happy fun Yoko.

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 12:40 AM (qUNWi)

246 12 How come no one ever told me about Yvonne DeCarlo?

Posted by: cm9000 at June 12, 2016 11:30 PM (2TUVm)

Because we were all in our bunks.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 13, 2016 12:42 AM (IWpxJ)

247 If someone found out their surname is not what they thought, grandad was not grandad, should they tell their siblings this? I know they will hate me if I am right (they already hate me).

Posted by: Baldy at June 13, 2016 12:42 AM (1SCTq)

248 osted by: sven10077 at June 12, 2016 11:36 PM (g8Hfr)

I'm sure this has been asked before, but:

Do you have a job?

Are you self employed?

Are you a rich retiree?

All of the above?

What's your secret?

sven is not to be asked. He is.

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 12:42 AM (qUNWi)

249 245 Meh
Needs more Yoko
Never taunt happy fun Yoko.
Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 12:40 AM (qUNWi)

Especially never taunt happy fun Maetenloch, lest you see the two worst of all words: "Challenge accepted."

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:43 AM (iMxBJ)

250
From a G4S brochure:

"From our superior recruiting, training and education to our background checks and screening, our manned security will exceed your expectations."

Well, I bet it will diverge from your expectations. What is with federal security contractors?

>>In 2008, Charlotte, N.C.-based Convergys Corp. came under fire for employing a Muslim computer operator who openly maintained a jihadist website featuring grisly images of American soldiers blown up by al-Qaida terrorists overseas which he said "bring great happiness to me.: Convergys at the time had landed a $2.5 billion federal contract to set up emergency communications centers in the event to terrorist attacks and other disasters.

>>The employee, 22-year-old Sami Khan, turned out to be an al-Qaida operative.

Why do we put a 22-year-old named "Sami Khan" in charge of anything? Anyway, happy ending:

>>He was killed in 2011 in a U.S. drone strike in Yemen.

Posted by: iforgot at June 13, 2016 12:44 AM (5o5ek)

251 247 If someone found out their surname is not what they thought, grandad was not grandad, should they tell their siblings this? I know they will hate me if I am right (they already hate me). -- Baldy

If they already hate you, what do you have to lose?

Posted by: sinalco at June 13, 2016 12:45 AM (yODqO)

252 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 13, 2016 12:45 AM (T/cxb)

253 I should also point out that the US should have its pick of all the best and brightest of the world for legal immigration

Racist. We should pick the stupidest and most worthless for immigration. Just as we're doing now.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 13, 2016 12:46 AM (oKE6c)

254
should they tell their siblings this?
---------------------

Yes. Live wrong and be hated, live right and be hated. Option 2.

Posted by: iforgot at June 13, 2016 12:46 AM (5o5ek)

255 John Williams at shadowstats puts out a newsletter trying to unravel all the jiggery-pokery the government does to the economic statistics it puts out.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at June 13, 2016 12:46 AM (X4FeV)

256 240 Watched "Revenant" last night. That dude needed bear insurance!
Posted by: Ray, it's just Ray Period at June 13, 2016 12:37 AM (LKFFy)

Bear rape insurance is especially expensive. Worse than California Earthquake Insurance. You won't even get above the deductible if your, um, portals return to normal size within three months.

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:46 AM (iMxBJ)

257 241 I see Milo Y. will be hosting a townhall meeting at Orlando this week.

Stay safe, Milo! It's not just the Muzzies who would like to see you dead.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 13, 2016 12:37 AM (P8951)

I would be honored to buy Milo a drink, were we to ever meet.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 12:47 AM (EzgxV)

258 i love the munsters.

i still have an autographed matchbook al lewis/grampa signed from his italian restaurant in greenwich village.

a guy i used to know got it for me because he knew i collected them.

Posted by: concrete girl at June 13, 2016 12:47 AM (ceWrl)

259 115

Buzz on the street in Hollywood is that Jim Caviezel is unavailable, so Christ will be played by Steven Seagal.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 12, 2016 11:58 PM (q7T0y)

Resurrected Steven Seagal to Pontius Pilate: "You may think you're above the law, but you're not above mine."

Posted by: Slappy at June 13, 2016 12:47 AM (rtfSu)

260 247 If someone found out their surname is not what they thought, grandad was not grandad, should they tell their siblings this? I know they will hate me if I am right (they already hate me).
Posted by: Baldy at June 13, 2016 12:42 AM (1SCTq)
--------------------------
You use the phrase "IF I am right."
I wouldn't say anything until you know with absolute certainty.
Then (and ONLY then) you have to ask if it matters enough to upset others. I dunno.

(That's not much help is it?!?)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 13, 2016 12:48 AM (T/5A0)

261 Near me, a former Episcopal church is now an "Islamic Awareness Center"...

The original congregation split with ECUSA over gay marriage, lost the court battle over ownership of the building to ECUSA who then sold it to the caliphate!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 13, 2016 12:08 AM (kP16F)

Heh. The former Western Geophysical building, on Barlow Trail in Calgary, where I once worked, is now an "islamic centre", complete with stars and horns.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 13, 2016 12:48 AM (GSdpU)

262 You are more likely to get sick on a non smoking plane than on a smoking one. Fact.

Posted by: otho at June 13, 2016 12:50 AM (EWg9n)

263 259 Resurrected Steven Seagal to Pontius Pilate: "You may think you're above the law, but you're not above mine."
Posted by: Slappy at June 13, 2016 12:47 AM (rtfSu)

Judas: (tosses 30 pieces of silver on the ground)

Seagal: Those 30 pieces of silver could have saved you a lot of pain.

Judas: I like pain (charges)

* a surprising amount of this is actual dialogue from a Seagal movie

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:50 AM (iMxBJ)

264 You are more likely to get sick on a non smoking plane than on a smoking one. Fact.

Aren't the smoking planes usually on the way to a crash site?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 13, 2016 12:51 AM (T/cxb)

265 "Risen" could have been a lot better if somebody in the production of the movie would have just put a little effort into it.

Posted by: Ray, it's just Ray Period at June 13, 2016 12:51 AM (LKFFy)

266 Aren't the smoking planes usually on the way to a crash site?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 13, 2016 12:51 AM

LOL

Posted by: otho at June 13, 2016 12:52 AM (EWg9n)

267 A little late for the food thread, but slow-cooker posole was quite good. Used ancho chiles. A bit too salty, but that was from the chicken broth. Next time will make my own broth.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 13, 2016 12:52 AM (QDnY+)

268 Yeah somebody asked this the other day - what ever happened to the search for the black boxes from the crashed EgyptAir? Did they recover them?

Posted by: rhomboid at June 13, 2016 12:53 AM (QDnY+)

269 260 247 If someone found out their surname is not what they thought, grandad was not grandad, should they tell their siblings this? I know they will hate me if I am right (they already hate me).
Posted by: Baldy at June 13, 2016 12:42 AM (1SCTq)
--------------------------
You use the phrase "IF I am right."
I wouldn't say anything until you know with absolute certainty.
Then (and ONLY then) you have to ask if it matters enough to upset others. I dunno.

(That's not much help is it?!?)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 13, 2016 12:48 AM (T/5A0)

I dunno -- you could throw it out there as speculation and let them crowdsource your confirmation or denial....but, in the meantime, the relations could factor it into any relevant issues: "Sickle-cell anemia.....but I don't have any black relatives.....unless Baldy is right!!!!"

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 12:53 AM (EzgxV)

270 Bear rape insurance is especially expensive. Worse than California Earthquake Insurance. You won't even get above the deductible if your, um, portals return to normal size within three months.
Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:46 AM (iMxBJ)

Hey now! Sure, Leo had a couple of drinks, but he was still able to consent.

Posted by: The Bear at June 13, 2016 12:54 AM (X4FeV)

271 268 Yeah somebody asked this the other day - what ever happened to the search for the black boxes from the crashed EgyptAir? Did they recover them?

Posted by: rhomboid at June 13, 2016 12:53 AM (QDnY+)

Squirrel!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 12:55 AM (EzgxV)

272 263

Judas: (tosses 30 pieces of silver on the ground)

Seagal: Those 30 pieces of silver could have saved you a lot of pain.

Judas: I like pain (charges)

* a surprising amount of this is actual dialogue from a Seagal movie

Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2016 12:50 AM (iMxBJ)

Yes, "Out For Justice." I used to be a huge Seagal fan, though I was not oblivious to his sub-par to terrible acting skills. But it was mostly downhill for him after the first "Under Siege" and I lost interest. Plus, according to a myriad of Hollywood insiders and fellow actors, he's a world-class prick in real life, which makes it difficult to really support the guy.

Posted by: Slappy at June 13, 2016 12:55 AM (rtfSu)

273 I just saw some pics of the Orlanda massacre clean-up crews - all wearing full hazmat suits...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 13, 2016 12:56 AM (kP16F)

274 235 In related news, it's reported that Bill Clinton went to Red Lobster for dinner tonight.

You guessed it, he got crabs.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:35 AM (q7T0y)

How about the inappropriate joke Bill Clinton told the Red Lobster waitress in an attempt to procure a sexual favor from her?

Clinton: "Hey, honey, do YOU like seafood?"
Waitress: "Yes, I do."
Clinton: "Great. How about you eat my crabs?"

Posted by: Slappy at June 13, 2016 12:56 AM (rtfSu)

275 Seagal's best work was on Mad TV.

Posted by: otho at June 13, 2016 12:56 AM (EWg9n)

276 It's a statistical fact that more Americans are injured each year by weasels than by bears. The bear insurance companies clean up because they know that the weasel exclusion will protect them from having to pay out.

Are you in good hands?

Posted by: The Allstate Guy at June 13, 2016 12:57 AM (sl+zA)

277 Slappy, ah, the happy-go-lucky 1990s... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 12:57 AM (q7T0y)

278 So food is how many people pay for food. (ISTN.)

Posted by: FireHorse at June 13, 2016 12:14 AM (xf7Kc)

Sorry folks, I'm just not drunk enough yet to follow along.

Posted by: Blano at June 13, 2016 12:57 AM (lbcdD)

279 The radical Imam that Omar Mateen listened to was released from prison by a Clinton appointed judge against the advice of prosecutors.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jl2lbz7

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 13, 2016 12:59 AM (hVdx9)

280 Thank God the honey badgers mostly mind their own business.

Posted by: Ray, it's just Ray Period at June 13, 2016 12:59 AM (LKFFy)

281 So food is how many people pay for food.

"food" is slang for the EBT card ...

Posted by: Adriane the Language Critic ... at June 13, 2016 01:01 AM (AoK0a)

282 Hey, Ray Romano is here!

Welcome Ray! Love your comedy! So what's Pat Heaton really like IRL? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 01:01 AM (q7T0y)

283 Chitown

Trump has anymore terrible days like this and he will be moving into the White House

Posted by: ThunderB at June 13, 2016 01:02 AM (zOTsN)

284 Thank God the honey badgers mostly mind their own business.

The downside is that Honey Badgers almost never volunteer in their communities or help the homeless. They just don't give a shit.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 13, 2016 01:02 AM (T/cxb)

285 Maybe they would help more if they knew it was for the children.

Posted by: Ray, it's just Ray Period at June 13, 2016 01:04 AM (LKFFy)

286 265 "Risen" could have been a lot better if somebody in the production of the movie would have just put a little effort into it.
Posted by: Ray, it's just Ray Period at June 13, 2016
---------------------
I thought the script was weak. They started with a good concept, that of a detective story, and I think the first part of the movie worked pretty well.
But they resolved the mystery too soon and the story turned into mush. It just didn't hold together well, IMO.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 13, 2016 01:06 AM (T/5A0)

287 Sorry no hispanic blood, that I know of. Unless baldy is my cousin.

Posted by: Ray, it's just Ray Period at June 13, 2016 01:07 AM (LKFFy)

288 should they tell their siblings this?
---------------------

Yes. Live wrong and be hated, live right and be hated. Option 2.

Posted by: iforgot at June 13, 2016 12:46 AM (5o5ek)

I was gonna say no, but I like iforgot's answer better.

Posted by: Blano at June 13, 2016 01:07 AM (lbcdD)

289 Gonna call it a night all, thanks for the great chat.

Hope everyone has a smooth and easy work week.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 01:07 AM (q7T0y)

290 Yeah, it was just blah, like nobody gave a shit.

Posted by: Ray, it's just Ray Period at June 13, 2016 01:09 AM (LKFFy)

291 Good night all.

Posted by: Ray, it's just Ray Period at June 13, 2016 01:10 AM (LKFFy)

292 Not that it'd amount to much but the execs of G4S Security should be hauled into a House committee hearing and asked why they allowed warnings about Mateen to be ignored, who they've fired, and why haven't they quit in shame.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 13, 2016 01:10 AM (p2X2f)

293 Not going outside next weekend. 120 predicted for the neighborhood on Sunday.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 13, 2016 01:10 AM (T/cxb)

294 In the end, it's all about food. Everything else is gravy.

And sex.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 01:11 AM (DW+jj)

295 Not going outside next weekend. 120 predicted for the neighborhood on Sunday.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 13, 2016 01:10 AM (T/cxb)

Where do you live?

Posted by: Blano at June 13, 2016 01:13 AM (lbcdD)

296 Headline:

"Victory for diversity: Black actors win all four musical acting awards at 2016 Tonys."

LOL. Gee, all four one race? That's sure "diverse!"

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 13, 2016 01:14 AM (T/5A0)

297 Where do you live?

Phoenix metro, but "hell" is an acceptable answer.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 13, 2016 01:14 AM (T/cxb)

298 In seven months President Gabage Can will be out of Office.

His wife, a Debebian Slime Devil, will also be gone.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 01:14 AM (MQEz6)

299 294 In the end, it's all about food. Everything else is gravy.

And sex.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 13, 2016 01:11 AM (DW+jj)

In the end we all die, and nothing up to that point ultimately means anything.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 13, 2016 01:14 AM (0mRoj)

300 Hope everyone has a smooth and easy work week.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 13, 2016 01:07 AM (q7T0y)

Yeah, 16 hrs of deposition in... Orlando this week.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 13, 2016 01:15 AM (P/kVC)

301 Dammit.

Denebian.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 01:15 AM (MQEz6)

302 Phoenix metro, but "hell" is an acceptable answer.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 13, 2016 01:14 AM (T/cxb)

Yikes.

Posted by: Blano at June 13, 2016 01:16 AM (lbcdD)

303
292 Not that it'd amount to much but the execs of G4S Security should be hauled into a House committee hearing and asked why they allowed warnings about Mateen to be ignored, who they've fired, and why haven't they quit in shame.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 13, 2016 01:10 AM (p2X2f)

Ryan's House of Pancakes is worth nothing.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 01:16 AM (MQEz6)

304
292 Not that it'd amount to much but the execs of G4S Security should be hauled into a House committee hearing and asked why they allowed warnings about Mateen to be ignored, who they've fired, and why haven't they quit in shame.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 13, 2016 01:10 AM (p2X2f)

Shame.

You bring up an important matter.

There is no shame.

There is no honor.

There is only the paycheck and the Gang.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 01:18 AM (MQEz6)

305 298 In seven months President Gabage Can will be out of Office.

His wife, a Debebian Slime Devil, will also be gone.
Posted by: eman

Like herpes, they will never go away.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 13, 2016 01:19 AM (syGA0)

306 281 So food is how many people pay for food.

"food" is slang for the EBT card ...

Posted by: Adriane the Language Critic ... at June 13, 2016 01:01 AM (AoK0a)

....and FireHose is playing Humpty-Dumpty:

"'And only one for birthday presents, you know. There's glory for you!'

'I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. 'Of course you don't -- till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'

'But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master -- that's all.'

Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. 'They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs: they're the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs -- however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'

'Would you tell me please,' said Alice, 'what that means?'

'Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. 'I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.'

'That's a great deal to make one word mean,' Alice said in a thoughtful tone.

'When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'I always pay it extra.' "

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 01:21 AM (EzgxV)

307 Apropos of nothing the shittiest you tube video ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM91100gT4c

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2016 01:22 AM (qUNWi)

308
Dammit.

Denebian.
Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 01:15 AM (MQEz6)
-----------------

I'm also wondering about that "Gabage Can."

Posted by: iforgot at June 13, 2016 01:22 AM (5o5ek)

309 Latt� Septroids are killing the culture.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 13, 2016 01:23 AM (GdFQh)

310 295 Not going outside next weekend. 120 predicted for the neighborhood on Sunday.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 13, 2016 01:10 AM (T/cxb)

Where do you live?

Posted by: Blano at June 13, 2016 01:13 AM (lbcdD) 295 Not going outside next weekend. 120 predicted for the neighborhood on Sunday.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 13, 2016 01:10 AM (T/cxb)

Where do you live?

Posted by: Blano at June 13, 2016 01:13 AM (lbcdD)

About 20 minutes north of Hell. Definitely within commuting distance. Then, again, his downtown area doesn't prominently feature a 12' statue of a pile of dogshit.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 01:23 AM (EzgxV)

311 latte'

(Gawd, I hate that punctuational shortcut.)

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 13, 2016 01:24 AM (GdFQh)

312

308
Dammit.

Denebian.
Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 01:15 AM (MQEz6)
-----------------

I'm also wondering about that "Gabage Can."
Posted by: iforgot at June 13, 2016 01:22 AM (5o5ek)

Yeesh.

I blame Bush.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 01:24 AM (MQEz6)

313 How come CAIR gets national press every time a 'nominal' muslim kills someone to explain that islam had nothing to do with it while every time a catholic kills someone all we get from the Pope is crickets?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 13, 2016 01:25 AM (P/kVC)

314 There is no shame.

There is no honor.

There is only the paycheck and the Gang.

Posted by: eman

Shame's only allowed to be flung at those who don't bend to the Left's call for collective obeisance.

Shame's that thing flung at stupid individualists who defy the all-caring state.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 13, 2016 01:25 AM (p2X2f)

315 What's the difference between a "religion" and a murderous criminal conspiracy?
Posted by: Rokshox at June 13, 2016 12:34 AM (aFCVM)

Tex exemption?

Posted by: The Non-Exempt Hat at June 13, 2016 01:26 AM (vBeA5)

316 Maybe the survivors of the Orlando Massacre can get together with the survivors of the Benghazi attacks and chat about being ready for Hillary.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 01:26 AM (MQEz6)

317 Incidentally, for Blanco's amusement, the post-Trump assaults happened one block west and two blocks south of said pile of dogshit. It's too bad they couldn't have gotten it, the thug violence, and the inert SJPD into the same picture.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 01:27 AM (EzgxV)

318
n seven months President Gabage Can will be out of Office.

His wife, a Debebian Slime Devil, will also be gone.
Posted by: eman
---------------------

Think of them slithing and snorking about the Darkworld, trading on their faded grandeur, forced to watch as their Palace of Lies is dismantled and their daughters with their smooth scowls are eclipsed by the brightness and American greatness of Barron, Melania, and Ivanka.

And then there's the Clintons...

Posted by: iforgot at June 13, 2016 01:30 AM (5o5ek)

319 Lye-lah tove, Horde...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 13, 2016 01:32 AM (kP16F)

320 Margarita: I thought the same. But now I want to see someone put on a movie about Roman-era private detectives, like from the books Silver Pigs or Medicus

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 13, 2016 01:34 AM (6FqZa)

321 sahdatay'

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 13, 2016 01:34 AM (GdFQh)

322 This incident is not a total failure. Sure, Mateen slipped of the FBI's radar screen because he was supposed to. He was an Obama supporter. They are always law abiding citizens.

Besides, we can now focus on your guns. Yes, I have doubled my gun packing security team for my rental boys and applied for emergency funding for additional armor for my limo service. As long as we have our guns, our bullet proof limos and our money we are safe.

I am beginning to think you clingers don't appreciate your first black president. Let me remind you that he is the best black president we have had and he has lost every war possible. That is a record that will be hard to Trump.

Posted by: Barney F. at June 13, 2016 01:36 AM (FJH98)

323 I went offline around 1:00, deliberately. Is a rainbow flag flying at half-mast at the WH?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 13, 2016 01:45 AM (9mTYi)

324 I like the concept of a "Designated Carrier" -- http://www.pinkpistols.org/2016 /06/12/pink-pistols-saddened- by-attack-on-orlando-club/ -- certainly makes a lot more sense than current gun laws.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 01:47 AM (EzgxV)

325 "Obama increased the federal debt by $8 trillion."

It's going to be nearly $10T by the time Prince Chooming leaves in January.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 13, 2016 01:50 AM (noWW6)

326 About 20 minutes north of Hell. Definitely within commuting distance. Then, again, his downtown area doesn't prominently feature a 12' statue of a pile of dogshit.

I really think that statue is holding the city back. People from elsewhere must look at it and say to themselves, "Well, if they have a statue of a pile of dog shit, how good a place can this be?"

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 13, 2016 01:50 AM (T/cxb)

327 Ghost is the best thing to listen to while pining for SMOD.

https://youtu.be/sZcW0ougNYI

Hilarious that several songs could be made into explicitly Christian rock songs with the tiniest amount of editing.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 13, 2016 01:58 AM (VdICR)

328 "I just noticed that link about the pension debt. It was unsustainable
anyway, but the Fed's money printing, ZIRP for the past near 10 years
has killed the pension funds, accelerating it."

The Central States Pension Fund run by the Teamsters wouldn't have survived ZIRP in any case. It was looted by the mobbed-up union bosses and their political cronies.

And right now, in the House, Lyin' Ryan is cooking up the federal effort to make good the fiscal deficiencies of the crooked CSPF. Another one of his "key conservative victories", no doubt.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 13, 2016 01:58 AM (noWW6)

329 Gavin McInnis, writing at Taki Mag, makes a very interesting point about M/F pay inequality using these two news points:

The women's pro soccer league complained that their players are paid much less than their male counterparts.

The Australian women's Olympic team was beaten 7-0 by a group of 14-15 year old boys.

Ouch.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 13, 2016 02:03 AM (gyKtp)

330 328
"I just noticed that link about the pension debt. It was unsustainable

anyway, but the Fed's money printing, ZIRP for the past near 10 years

has killed the pension funds, accelerating it."

The Central
States Pension Fund run by the Teamsters wouldn't have survived ZIRP in
any case. It was looted by the mobbed-up union bosses and their
political cronies.

And right now, in the House, Lyin' Ryan is
cooking up the federal effort to make good the fiscal deficiencies of
the crooked CSPF. Another one of his "key conservative victories", no
doubt.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 13, 2016 01:58 AM (noWW6)

Well, if the Federal Government is on the hook for every state's questionable spending, let's all just write our state governments and demand that they get in on the action and spend like there's no tomorrow. State space programs! Guaranteed minimum income of 47 goats per quarter! Monuments to SPAM! In a year or two, there won't be any way to keep the lights on, and Washington DC closes up shop. I can think of worse ways a country can fail.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 13, 2016 02:03 AM (HalrA)

331 235 In related news, it's reported that Bill Clinton went to Red Lobster for dinner tonight.

You guessed it, he got crabs.

*********

And his waitress came home with a Red Snapper.

baddabish!

Posted by: Noam Sayen at June 13, 2016 02:05 AM (bIhmV)

332 I generally never even read the Web site of the place where I am theoretically employed, but someone just sent me a link to the top story now at PJMedia, and it is a doozy:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/06/12/gay-activist-after-orlando-trump-voter/?singlepage=true

I'm a Gay Activist, and After Orlando, I Have Switched My Vote to Trump
BY ANONYMOUS JUNE 12, 2016

Talk about someone getting hit upside the head with a cluebat -- this guy just flipped sides:

"... I'm also sad that the events of Orlando have shattered my political beliefs, as I can no longer swear allegiance to a peace-love-and-unicorns progressive philosophy that only helps to get my fellow queers killed.
...
Since the 1990s, Christian extremists have essentially lost all their power, and are now toothless nonplayers in the "culture wars." Meanwhile, Muslim extremists, with guns, murder us, and on the left our only response is to bleat about "Islamophobia" and jump through hoops trying to explain away the self-evident religious motivation for the killings.
...
I also now realize, with brutal clarity, that in the progressive hierarchy of identity groups, Muslims are above gays. Every pundit and politician -- and that includes President Obama and Hillary Clinton and half the talking heads on TV -- who today have said "We don't know what the shooter's motivation could possibly be!" have revealed to me their true priorities: appeasing Muslims is more important than defending the lives of gay people. Every progressive who runs interference for Islamic murderers is complicit in those murders, and I can no longer be a part of that team."
...etc.

Damn. This essay needs to be spread far and wide.

It's times like these that I wish I did social media. All I can do is comment about it. Twitter and Facebook mavens: meme-ify that sucka!

Posted by: zombie at June 13, 2016 02:05 AM (jBuUi)

333 Well... Hello.

Family reunion weekend, day 3 of 4. Hardly had time to read Ace posts, nor the news. Anything notable happen? (Sorry, dark joking--some news is unavoidable.) Missed my two favorite regular threads, pets and books.

Driving home from the lake this afternoon, just as we got on the Interstate, we were caught in a cloudburst worthy of the name. All traffic which hadn't pulled over was slowed to a crawl, and we all had our flashers on. I was tempted to pull over, and if had just become a hair harder downpour, I would've.

After a few minutes, we drove out of it, though. It was like that scene in Back to the Future where they're controlling the weather - you know, in the far, fantastic future of 2016 - and the rain just stops suddenly altogether.

Been a long time since I've been driving in that bad a storm. Glad it was *only* rain, not windstorm or twisters.

Posted by: mindful webworker - family, man! at June 13, 2016 02:06 AM (UYkjZ)

334 Some spectacular electrical storms here along the front range lately, and some prizewinners are expected tomorrow.

Forgot where I read it, but lightning was the second most common cause of death during the cattle-drive years of the nineteenth century. The first was drowning.

Gotta go out tomorrow and get some more beer. Ran out of lager and this time will get some stuff made in Golden, Colorado Native. It is almost as good as Batch 19, the pre-prohibition style lager Coors made for a little bit and then discontinued.

This one's by AC also, and is a red lager. Yum.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at June 13, 2016 02:09 AM (U6f54)

335 I meant cause of death for COWPUNCHERS, not all the rest of the morons.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at June 13, 2016 02:09 AM (U6f54)

336 326 About 20 minutes north of Hell. Definitely within commuting distance. Then, again, his downtown area doesn't prominently feature a 12' statue of a pile of dogshit.

I really think that statue is holding the city back. People from elsewhere must look at it and say to themselves, "Well, if they have a statue of a pile of dog shit, how good a place can this be?"

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 13, 2016 01:50 AM (T/cxb)

If they just changed the title from "Quetzalcoatl" to "Progressivism", they could make an embarrassment into an asset.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 02:10 AM (EzgxV)

337 Littl shyning man-

Yep. First time I saw prairie and the flatlands, I thought 'Lord, the storms of home would be lethal out here.'

Majestic and beautiful, but utterly deadly.

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at June 13, 2016 02:13 AM (De8zy)

338 332 Posted by: zombie at June 13, 2016 02:05 AM (jBuUi)

Yeah I read that. The problem is the author is anonymous. That could mean a moby, or a rightie troll, or sincere.

No way to tell.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 13, 2016 02:15 AM (gyKtp)

339 332 I generally never even read the Web site of the place where I am theoretically employed, but someone just sent me a link to the top story now at PJMedia, and it is a doozy:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/06/12/gay-activist-after-orlando-trump-voter/?singlepage=true

I'm a Gay Activist, and After Orlando, I Have Switched My Vote to Trump
BY ANONYMOUS JUNE 12, 2016

Talk about someone getting hit upside the head with a cluebat -- this guy just flipped sides:

"... I'm also sad that the events of Orlando have shattered my political beliefs, as I can no longer swear allegiance to a peace-love-and-unicorns progressive philosophy that only helps to get my fellow queers killed.
...
Since the 1990s, Christian extremists have essentially lost all their power, and are now toothless nonplayers in the "culture wars." Meanwhile, Muslim extremists, with guns, murder us, and on the left our only response is to bleat about "Islamophobia" and jump through hoops trying to explain away the self-evident religious motivation for the killings.
...
I also now realize, with brutal clarity, that in the progressive hierarchy of identity groups, Muslims are above gays. Every pundit and politician -- and that includes President Obama and Hillary Clinton and half the talking heads on TV -- who today have said "We don't know what the shooter's motivation could possibly be!" have revealed to me their true priorities: appeasing Muslims is more important than defending the lives of gay people. Every progressive who runs interference for Islamic murderers is complicit in those murders, and I can no longer be a part of that team."
...etc.

Damn. This essay needs to be spread far and wide.

It's times like these that I wish I did social media. All I can do is comment about it. Twitter and Facebook mavens: meme-ify that sucka!

Posted by: zombie at June 13, 2016 02:05 AM (jBuUi)

Remember that I visited PJMedia because of columnists like you, and not because PJMedia radiated goodness upon their columnists.

And, yes -- LGBT who worry about a frown, an expression of concern, and bathroom routing should vote Progressive. LGBT who worry about vicious attacks, inability to defend themselves, and shackling themselves to ideological slavery should vote Conservative.

Note that Dem and GOP didn't figure in there.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 02:17 AM (EzgxV)

340 Exhausted.

Retiring.

Good night, Gracies.

Posted by: mindful webworker - family, man! at June 13, 2016 02:28 AM (UYkjZ)

341 It's currently 69 on the interior thermostat.

While I am well aware of the adage that "a man with a watch always knows what time it is; a man with two watches is never sure....", I base these observations on the "official" internal thermostat. [....and, incidentally, if you want commentary on the differences between the two -- just ask me what time it is....]

As I have gotten older, I have become more predictable in my ways. Currently, I will suffer miserably, hanging on and getting more and more irrational, until the temp is 65 or below. If it hits 63, I can retire and fall instantly asleep. If I awake when the house is cool, I am groggy and disorganized; if the house temperature jogs up by 2 degrees an hour before the alarm, I can almost wake up without the alarm; if it jogs up 5 degrees, there's a 50-50 chance I'll wake before the alarm.

Which makes it almost certain that when Kthublai Khan a stately pleasure dome decrees, I'm going to be running separate AC controls for the sleeping quarters.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 02:33 AM (EzgxV)

342 Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 02:33 AM (EzgxV)

Well that settles it. I will make my Raspberry Pi into a smart thermostat.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 13, 2016 02:37 AM (VdICR)

343 >>>DHS Official Who Protected Terrorist Suspect Won't be Punished, Gets a Promotion Instead

Can she at least be doxxed to the victims' families?

Not that would make a difference. We have now entered the "Armin Miewes" phase of civilization's death spiral: governments conspiring with terrorists to kill their own citizens, and citizens passively approving. It's a sadomasochistic snuff film. I almost want to start slapping and shouting at liberals, to see if they have any fight left in them. I don't want to accept that they are this far gone mentally.

Posted by: Mohammed Dali at June 13, 2016 02:43 AM (dHTO7)

344
342 Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 02:33 AM (EzgxV)

Well that settles it. I will make my Raspberry Pi into a smart thermostat.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 13, 2016 02:37 AM (VdICR)

That may sound silly and mocking, until you compare Raspi @$35 under your control with the Google-owned Nest thermostat that Amazon has for $248.75. With the Nest, you can follow any scheme Google allows you to until they decide to override it; with the Raspi, you can follow any scheme you program into the thing. With the Nest, you can have any security and privacy that Google allows you; with the Raspi, you can clamp things down to the shit that banks use [or better].

I'm not designing the house today -- but, if I were, I probably would be using Raspis as smart thermostats.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 02:50 AM (EzgxV)

345 >>>Overwrought WIRED: Gawker's Bankruptcy Is How a Free Press Dies, One VC at a Time

Gay bankrupts media outlet. Muslims kill gays. The left is starting to devour itself in earnest. For the media to whine about it evokes as much sympathy as a former communist stooge getting an ice pick in the head.

Posted by: Mohammed Dali at June 13, 2016 02:55 AM (dHTO7)

346 I cannot begin to imagine what it would take to wash the taste of Obama's asshole off of the author's tongue -- http://www.theatlantic.com/ magazine/archive/2016/04/ the-obama-doctrine/471525/

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 02:57 AM (EzgxV)

347 Well, just spent hour and a half watching De Carlo and Lancaster in Criss Cross. Not a bad noir flick. Everybody is crooked and buys it in the end.
Now back to read everything after 24.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 13, 2016 02:58 AM (FtrY1)

348 There. My wire-hacking is done. Cut up a yuuuge main wire harness from an old Mercury Villager minivan. Clipped off all the many harness plugs, stripped off the tape jacket, and rolled up each piece of wire separately and hacked it. Meaning, I wrapped it around my fingers, forming an elliptical coil, and then wrapped the free end around the coiled wire a few times. Makes easy-to-handle hanks that tend to stay neatly coiled until needed.

I plan to store this, and much more other wire by making a bunch of sticks, like small laths, with a crosspiece glued on one end, and the other end drilled with a hang-up hole. So I can fill one stick with #10 red wire, and the next with #10 black, and so on. Wires with tracers will be filed according to the base color of the wire, but separately from solid-color wires.

The sticks can all be hung on a pegboard, or from screw hooks in the ceiling. Frees up shelf space, and makes it easier to find the exact right hank of wire for a given use.

If any of you have priced out automotive primary wire lately, you'll know that I have probably just "created" about a hundred bucks' worth of inventory.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 13, 2016 02:59 AM (GSdpU)

349 I'm looking forward for the White House Press Pool to be designated the FOAD. Everything comes in via White House website, everything goes out via YouTube. Convert the WH press room to a storage closet or a urinal.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 03:05 AM (EzgxV)

350 >>>The Muslim Shield and Willful Blindness

Liberals are making the case themselves as to why we should not allow Muslim immigration. Because if we do, liberals would let them get away with anything even if most Muslims were angelic.

This is similar to the argument against nepotism, which most people accept: even if most people could keep the family/professional aspects of their lives separate, too often that would not be the case.

Posted by: Mohammed Dali at June 13, 2016 03:06 AM (dHTO7)

351 If any of you have priced out automotive primary wire lately, you'll
know that I have probably just "created" about a hundred bucks' worth of
inventory.
---
on the main drag, pun intended, there was a 57 Chevy i pulled along side of.

he was running a 350 with 2 650 Holley dual pumps, an Edelbrock manifold and a blower...

pretty sure he wasn't worried about wire harnesses. and no, he said i couldn't have my car back.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 13, 2016 03:06 AM (cqiFV)

352
Driving home from the lake this afternoon, just as we got on the Interstate, we were caught in a cloudburst worthy of the name. All traffic which hadn't pulled over was slowed to a crawl, and we all had our flashers on. I was tempted to pull over, and if had just become a hair harder downpour, I would've.

Posted by: mindful webworker

One of the most haunting things I've seen was while I was driving to Vegas for work during night in August.

Heading down into that valley where the famous 4-story thermometer stands, the skies over the mountains were being assaulted by billowy clouds and thunder.

Heart achingly beautiful.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 13, 2016 03:08 AM (p2X2f)

353 Apropos of nothing in particular -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqmq4iVY6zY

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 03:15 AM (EzgxV)

354 I hope Gibson realizes that a movie about the Maccabees would be more like a prequel. You could argue that Acts would be a sequel. And with some hagiography thrown in, it would be bloody enough for Gibson: many of the apostles met with gruesome ends according to a lot of traditions (and history as well, see Nero).

Posted by: Fred Gwynne at June 13, 2016 03:17 AM (dHTO7)

355 Hey Kids,

anyone home?

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 03:26 AM (iRJ+A)

356 Guess I'll just mosey in and get a cold one outa the fridge. Hmmm. Cold pizza. Maybe I'll take a slice of that, too.

Wow. Someone should dust and vacuum in here.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 03:29 AM (iRJ+A)

357 ey Kids,

anyone home?

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 03:26 AM (iRJ+A)

Yo, jc!!!

I was just thinking about you and your handrail a few days back. I had a flood onto a hardwood floor and swelling caused some places where two adjacent boards buckled upward. I dried them out so that the swelling wouldn't cause or maintain buckling, and I'm thinking of steaming them to go back down. How did you get your steam for the handrail?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 03:37 AM (EzgxV)

358 cthulhu at June 13, 2016 03:15 AM (EzgxV)

I was thinking more like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pBnwf733ZY

I think of Thundercloud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRh_hZCjVJw

as a light rain & Shape of Time as the skies letting loose ...

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at June 13, 2016 03:37 AM (AoK0a)

359 356 Guess I'll just mosey in and get a cold one outa the fridge. Hmmm. Cold pizza. Maybe I'll take a slice of that, too.

Wow. Someone should dust and vacuum in here.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 03:29 AM (iRJ+A)

If you ever raid my fridge, feel free to nab any of the general circulation stuff not in the top back right corner.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 03:39 AM (EzgxV)

360 jc!

How be the Frozen North in June?

I hope things are going well.

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at June 13, 2016 03:39 AM (AoK0a)

361 >>>Guess I'll just mosey in and get a cold one outa the fridge. Hmmm. Cold pizza. Maybe I'll take a slice of that, too.

It's Monday the thirteenth. Pizza and beer make one twice as fat today as on other days.

Posted by: Garfield at June 13, 2016 03:43 AM (dHTO7)

362 How did you get your steam for the handrail?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 03:37 AM (EzgxV)

===In a minimal way. made up a piece of 3" pvc in-home waste pipe surrounded by a larger perforated septic field pipe and then rigid insulation. piped steam in on the end. The steam generator itself were little units. I tried two - one made for wallpaper removal by Wagner and one for steaming wood by Rockler. Both seemed to work, but neither would be up to your task.
On another note, I have set up straight guides and used routers to mill grooves in hardwood floors for inlays. Can your damaged location be a good spot for an inlaid decoration?

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 03:44 AM (iRJ+A)

363 360
jc!

How be the Frozen North in June?

I hope things are going well.

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at June 13, 2016 03:39 AM (AoK0a)
====I'm having a great summer so far. Lotsa light and pretty good weather up until now.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 03:46 AM (iRJ+A)

364 It's Monday the thirteenth. Pizza and beer make one twice as fat today as on other days.

Posted by: Garfield at June 13, 2016 03:43 AM (dHTO7)

=====great. now you tell me. I'm gonna need a conveyor belt.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 03:47 AM (iRJ+A)

365 Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 02:17 AM (EzgxV)

Color me slightly cynical, but it is possible that the letter from the gay activist was actually written by a sock and not a gay activist, because the "peace, love and unicorns " bit sounds like something conservative would write about a progressive?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 13, 2016 04:00 AM (rmw+9)

366 362 How did you get your steam for the handrail?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 03:37 AM (EzgxV)

===In a minimal way. made up a piece of 3" pvc in-home waste pipe surrounded by a larger perforated septic field pipe and then rigid insulation. piped steam in on the end. The steam generator itself were little units. I tried two - one made for wallpaper removal by Wagner and one for steaming wood by Rockler. Both seemed to work, but neither would be up to your task.
On another note, I have set up straight guides and used routers to mill grooves in hardwood floors for inlays. Can your damaged location be a good spot for an inlaid decoration?

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 03:44 AM (iRJ+A)

I've got a unit meant for fabric steaming. I should have the site dry, clean, demo'd, and ready for work tomorrow. A large part of this is that I'm not going to work on any floor while it still has wall-to-wall carpet ~~tetanus devices~~ tack strips, especially half-rusted ones.

I've got about six places where adjacent strips buckled upward. My intent is to sit on a 4x4 inch square with about 100 lbs of weight, and steam the seam from the large end. If it settles and zips together, move the square and steam 2".

I'm thinking it may be best to sand everything before I start.

Alternatively, if a few 'rons advised me that this was an infinite loop, I might be persuaded to demo another layer and rebuild from there.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:02 AM (EzgxV)

367 I'm trying to rescue the FrankenMac external hard drive before it dies.

Got a backup & copies of most of the files.

Tomorrow going to try to clone the bootable partition after I get some sleep.

After a long pause, work is resuming on the guest house bath room. The master bathroom mainline is clear - we think - but the drain pan is cracked so that (yet another tile & concrete & chickenwire DIY) has to come out.

Embarrassed to say that it took us 4 years to hang pictures in the master bedroom. {Plaster over brick, so we started hammering in the hooks, but had the hammer drill on standby.) But Memorial Day weekend we put 4 hooks up over the headboard using much the same pattern as the pictures we hung in the old new house.

Hope your projects are going less scattered than mine ...

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at June 13, 2016 04:07 AM (AoK0a)

368 hope this pic works:

http://i68.tinypic.com/ibxcnl.jpg

I had a local shop cut out card scrapers for the handrail shape. I probably got 40-60 hours left to getting the handrail ready for finish coats. I have no idea how long it will take me to get around to putting in the hours.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 04:12 AM (iRJ+A)

369 Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 13, 2016 02:58 AM (FtrY1)

Nice Futurama reference.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 13, 2016 04:12 AM (VdICR)

370
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 13, 2016 12:48 AM (T/5A0) --- I do not have 100% proof but if it were a civil case, I'd convict... Just need to get DNA from someone.

Posted by: Baldy at June 13, 2016 04:13 AM (1SCTq)

371 just in time, a laugh from the past...

Largo to the rescue!

http://megatokyo.com/strip/1450

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 13, 2016 04:14 AM (cqiFV)

372 Alternatively, if a few 'rons advised me that this
was an infinite loop, I might be persuaded to demo another layer and
rebuild from there.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:02 AM (EzgxV)

====dunno. I was not able to keep wood hot for very long once removed from the steamer. A couple minutes tops. It cools down very quickly.
If you're not gonna remove the carpet tack strips are you planning to put carpet back? If so, why not just plane it flat, fill with a paste, and put it behind you as fast as possible?

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 04:17 AM (iRJ+A)

373 Dick Hyman's Moog album....as if anyone cares -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIutWZqoK-4

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:21 AM (EzgxV)

374 Have further to travel again today for work but not to bad.
Hope it's a better day.
Blog article on the father of Jihadi at LegalInsurrection

Posted by: Skip at June 13, 2016 04:24 AM (d9qXV)

375 Some of Ruth White's early Moog -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt2ygS9W4Cc

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:28 AM (EzgxV)

376 "I cannot begin to imagine what it would take to wash the taste of Obama's asshole off of the author's tongue"

cthulhu, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away Jeff Goldberg was a real journalist who wrote about things that actually happened. Now his role has been diminished to be nothing but a boot-licking toady for Obama. My guess is bribed or blackmailed.

Posted by: FOAF at June 13, 2016 04:29 AM (p0JMG)

377 Skip -

safe travel.

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at June 13, 2016 04:29 AM (AoK0a)

378 The Roses are thirsty,
The Violets are hot,
It's Summertime in Phoenix,
Good Night, Moronic lot ...

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at June 13, 2016 04:32 AM (AoK0a)

379 Remember that guy who allegedly wanted to attack a Gay Pride parage in L.A.?

Apparently he might be gay....

I apologize for not getting the "News of the Week" out on Sunday. It'll be out on Monday.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 13, 2016 04:34 AM (vBeA5)

380 372 Alternatively, if a few 'rons advised me that this
was an infinite loop, I might be persuaded to demo another layer and
rebuild from there.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:02 AM (EzgxV)

====dunno. I was not able to keep wood hot for very long once removed from the steamer. A couple minutes tops. It cools down very quickly.
If you're not gonna remove the carpet tack strips are you planning to put carpet back? If so, why not just plane it flat, fill with a paste, and put it behind you as fast as possible?

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 04:17 AM (iRJ+A)

I'm removing tack strips in order to better visualize the workspace and be more willing to involve myself with it. I can always put in more tack spaces, but I probably only get one bout of tetanus.

The spots where the floor is buckled average about 45 degrees per strip -- as in, the floor strips are 1-1/2 inches and the buckled area is raised over an inch. They raised themselves because of wood swelling with no 2D room to maneuver. That's just about dried out. Next I'm thinking of steaming under flat pressure to coax them back into position.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:36 AM (EzgxV)

381 Next I'm thinking of steaming under flat pressure to coax them back into position.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:36 AM (EzgxV)

====I'll be surprised if that works to your satisfaction in a reasonable length of time.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 04:39 AM (iRJ+A)

382 376 "I cannot begin to imagine what it would take to wash the taste of Obama's asshole off of the author's tongue"

cthulhu, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away Jeff Goldberg was a real journalist who wrote about things that actually happened. Now his role has been diminished to be nothing but a boot-licking toady for Obama. My guess is bribed or blackmailed.

Posted by: FOAF at June 13, 2016 04:29 AM (p0JMG)

Once upon a time his lips bore the sweetness of suckling from his mother's breast, or of her kiss. Now they bear the corruption of kissing the ass of Progressive totalitarianism. I hope his mother never had to witness this degradation.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:42 AM (EzgxV)

383 381
Next I'm thinking of steaming under flat pressure to coax them back into position.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:36 AM (EzgxV)

====I'll be surprised if that works to your satisfaction in a reasonable length of time.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 04:39 AM (iRJ+A)

====but if it does, that will be something pretty damn cool.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 04:42 AM (iRJ+A)

384 381 Next I'm thinking of steaming under flat pressure to coax them back into position.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:36 AM (EzgxV)

====I'll be surprised if that works to your satisfaction in a reasonable length of time.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 04:39 AM (iRJ+A)

*saving throw* Even if that satisfaction is flat enough to throw laminate over and the time is measured in days?

And, BTW, if the answer is "no", I'm likely going to cut-out a chunk of 1955 oak flooring -- with thanks to your good counsel.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:46 AM (EzgxV)

385 The Roses are thirsty,

The Violets are hot,

It's Summertime in Phoenix,

Good Night, Moronic lot ...

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at June 13, 2016 04:32 AM (AoK0a

The roses are dying
The violets frost bit
Summer in PA
I'm not good at poetry

fin

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 13, 2016 04:50 AM (Rki1x)

386 383 381
Next I'm thinking of steaming under flat pressure to coax them back into position.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:36 AM (EzgxV)

====I'll be surprised if that works to your satisfaction in a reasonable length of time.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 04:39 AM (iRJ+A)

====but if it does, that will be something pretty damn cool.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 04:42 AM (iRJ+A)

After cleaning the site, the implements that I will have will be: a section of train rail about 3' long that weighs a lot; a 4" x4" piece of brass that is heavy, but is best used as a focus for the rail; and a source of steam.

My intent was to position the rail/pillow at the start of the buckle, steam the crap out of it, then move up an inch like a zipper as the wood got flexy.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:51 AM (EzgxV)

387
cth:

Lumber and wood products aren't my specialty, but I strongly suspect that you will be time and money ahead by removing the areas of buckled wood flooring and then replacing the flooring with a suitable plywood material.

You might be able then to steam the removed wood strips into something usable, and then replace the plywood, and still be time and money ahead.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 13, 2016 04:52 AM (FlRtG)

388 More Ruth White -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8nzGwfzF8

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:53 AM (EzgxV)

389 You! I want to take you to a gay bar. Gay bar.

I love Islam.

Thanks to all the dumbasses who voted for me. I plan to have you all converted or killed. Historical first--- what a bunch of suckers you all were. Be sure to vote for Hillary--- dupes.

Posted by: Barrack Obama at June 13, 2016 04:54 AM (E8UjU)

390 Morning, Horde.

Posted by: fluffy at June 13, 2016 04:59 AM (2hcmo)

391 And more....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcFqlmHqVb8

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:00 AM (EzgxV)

392 My intent was to position the rail/pillow at the
start of the buckle, steam the crap out of it, then move up an inch like
a zipper as the wood got flexy.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:51 AM (EzgxV)

===I don't think you're going to get it hot enough and keep it hot enough long enough to be worth the effort. If I were in your spot, I'd consider a few things:
1) if I just want laminate over the top -- I'd get myself a powered hand planer and take out the high spots. This will undoubtedly leave holes or a hollow spot underneath. I'd remove any hollow spots (which should be really easy after the planing) and fill all the holes with something that won't shrink. Then sand flat and put the laminate down.
2) if I wanted the look of the old oak floor, I'd think about accent strips or medallions. I'd get it flat enough to get a good router guide screwed down and cut out the appropriate shape and then place the medallions or strips.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 05:02 AM (iRJ+A)

393 387
cth:

Lumber and wood products aren't my specialty, but I strongly suspect that you will be time and money ahead by removing the areas of buckled wood flooring and then replacing the flooring with a suitable plywood material.

You might be able then to steam the removed wood strips into something usable, and then replace the plywood, and still be time and money ahead.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 13, 2016 04:52 AM (FlRtG)

Yeah, I'm almost there. It struck me that (a) the tops of the wood [that I could get to] had poly or lacquer or something, so wouldn't readily take up the steam; and (b) if I got the edges to get enough steam to be bendy, they'd probably experience the same expansion that caused them to buckle in the first place.

I'd like to preserve the 1955 wood, but I'm not totally stupid.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:05 AM (EzgxV)

394 I'm waiting for a Ace beatdown (figuratively) of Sally Kohn who reflexively does her lame talking points.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 13, 2016 05:10 AM (rmw+9)

395 392 My intent was to position the rail/pillow at the
start of the buckle, steam the crap out of it, then move up an inch like
a zipper as the wood got flexy.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 04:51 AM (EzgxV)

===I don't think you're going to get it hot enough and keep it hot enough long enough to be worth the effort. If I were in your spot, I'd consider a few things:
1) if I just want laminate over the top -- I'd get myself a powered hand planer and take out the high spots. This will undoubtedly leave holes or a hollow spot underneath. I'd remove any hollow spots (which should be really easy after the planing) and fill all the holes with something that won't shrink. Then sand flat and put the laminate down.
2) if I wanted the look of the old oak floor, I'd think about accent strips or medallions. I'd get it flat enough to get a good router guide screwed down and cut out the appropriate shape and then place the medallions or strips.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 05:02 AM (iRJ+A)

You're saying nice things, but I'm hearing "demo another layer [of old oak floor]."

I should note that the leak started in a bathroom where my ex-across-the-back-fence neighbor had laid tile over an oak floor. It progressed into an area where wall-to-wall carpeting had been laid over an oak floor at least twice. It bled sideways into a walk-in closet that we had remodeled from an old closet that had partially been part of a bedroom and a piece of adjacent hall.

In other words, the underlying flooring is a complex patchwork that was never meant to work together, previously covered by a wall-to-wall. I should probably simplify.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:13 AM (EzgxV)

396 In other words, the underlying flooring is a complex
patchwork that was never meant to work together, previously covered by a
wall-to-wall. I should probably simplify.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:13 AM (EzgxV)

====there's always a benefit to fast and simple. Hard to argue.

I'll post a pic of some inlay strips I routed into a wood floor. Toughest part is setting the guide.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 05:18 AM (iRJ+A)

397
hope this works.

http://i64.tinypic.com/34ffnew.jpg

you could even use more oak with a contrasting finish color and get a decent look without having to remove it all.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 05:20 AM (iRJ+A)

398 397
hope this works.

http://i64.tinypic.com/34ffnew.jpg

you could even use more oak with a contrasting finish color and get a decent look without having to remove it all.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 05:20 AM (iRJ+A)

Yeah.....no. I need to keep determining the bounds of the project, but you're rapidly heading me towards "blow the 1955 oak, replace with plywood, re-lay the carpet".

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:31 AM (EzgxV)

399 I should probably simplify.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:13 AM (EzgxV)

Demo down to the floor joists and install 3/4" plywood subfloor.

Simple is good.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Am Yisrael Hai at June 13, 2016 05:32 AM (Zu3d9)

400 Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:31 AM (EzgxV)

Not fully up to speed on this one, but sometimes a wood floor can be "fixed" by turning bad pieces upside down or by replacing them with pieces from another part of the floor that is not damaged.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 05:36 AM (MQEz6)

401 399 I should probably simplify.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:13 AM (EzgxV)

Demo down to the floor joists and install 3/4" plywood subfloor.

Simple is good.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Am Yisrael Hai at June 13, 2016 05:32 AM (Zu3d9)

Usual construction of this vintage is that there are floor joists (vertical orientation) on the foundation, above which are floor members (2x8s?) laid flat, running at a slight angle. On top of that is an optional subfloor to make things flat, then flooring.

If I just laid 3/4" ply on the floor joists, I'd be about 2" down from everything else in the house.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:38 AM (EzgxV)

402 I should note that the leak started in a bathroom
where my ex-across-the-back-fence neighbor had laid tile over an oak
floor.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:13 AM (EzgxV)

=====can you salvage enough oak from the bathroom to patch the rest? That way you only have to really strip out one room. If you are going to laminate/carpet over the top, it shouldn't matter if your patches are ugly.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 05:48 AM (iRJ+A)

403 Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:38 AM (EzgxV)

Add 2" or whatever you need to the joists.

I'm a big fan of starting fresh!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Am Yisrael Hai at June 13, 2016 05:52 AM (Zu3d9)

404 Good Morning Morons. Today is Monday, June 13, 2016. On this day in 1740 Georgia colony governor James Oglethorpe began an unsuccessful attempt to take Spanish Florida during the Siege of St. Augustine. During various "deals and transfers" along with the US war on the Seminoles who aided Great Britain during the war of 1812 the US acquired more and more of Florida. In 1821 Spain ceded the remainder of Florida to the US.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:54 AM (mpXpK)

405 The Orlando terrorist was tied to a muzzie imam who has been preaching violent jihad in the US for a long time. He was jailed on weapons charges and tax fraud and the feds tried to get him additional time based on his terrorist activities. Instead the Clinton appointed judge released him early with time served. Liberal Democrats and their supporters are literally killing us and their only solution is to take away our guns in direct violation of the Constitution so it is easier for them to do so.

http://fxn.ws/28vwt4A

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

406 Walmart is to begin experimenting with a grocery delivery service. You order on-line and they will get a driver to deliver them to you. I could deal with this.

http://fxn.ws/1XigXoH

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

407 Laid off workers are beginning to speak out about being laid off due to H1B Visa abuse/fraud. Almost all companies require them to sign a "silence agreement" to get separation pay. The key here is that H1B Visas are only supposed to be used when a company certifies that it can not a fill a position with an American worker. Obviously they are lying when they lay off an America worker to hire cheaper labor on an H1B Visa. So why isn't anyone being prosecuted for this fraud? Answer, neither Party wants them to. This was one of my major gripes with Cruz. He supported this H1B Visa fraud and actually wanted to expand it.

http://nyti.ms/1XQQXBx

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

408 Man with an AR-15 and explosives who was going to a CA "Gay Pride" parade to allegedly kill some people was a follower of Hitler and Scankles. Now there is a likely pair. It appears he was also gay himself.

http://bit.ly/1YkM81L

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

409 WZ reviews a warning made by a former FBI official following the Paris terrorist attacks. He warned back in 2015 that these attacks were coming here because the FBI simply did not have enough people to track all of these muzzies that were being let in. So the Democrats will say more and bigger FBI police State needed to police "immigrants", as well as more gun control. Liberals have no common sense so that is what you will hear instead of STOP letting these phony refugees in. (actually they are too stupid to pour piss out of a boot etc etc)

http://bit.ly/1sBkDoJ

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

410
Idiot Seth McFarland says we need to ban automatic weapons. Some people are too stupid to breath.

http://bit.ly/25WvKaj

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

411 CAIR calls a press conference to make its routine excuses for the latest muzzie outrage in the US, but first ejects a BB reporter.

http://bit.ly/1tqVo9A

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

412 Heh.....at least you have subfloor!

Our house is 1930 construction, so no subfloor. Just hardwood laid on joists.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Am Yisrael Hai at June 13, 2016 05:56 AM (Zu3d9)

413 402 I should note that the leak started in a bathroom
where my ex-across-the-back-fence neighbor had laid tile over an oak
floor.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:13 AM (EzgxV)

=====can you salvage enough oak from the bathroom to patch the rest? That way you only have to really strip out one room. If you are going to laminate/carpet over the top, it shouldn't matter if your patches are ugly.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 05:48 AM (iRJ+A)

The bathroom appears to be an oak floor that someone spread wet grout on, then laid tile. I don't see any cement backer-board from the edge. Any oak in there is unsalvageable.

The hallway leading up to the bath has a couple of wood-expansion eruptions in the floor. I had hoped to steam them flat, but I'm thinking of demoing them out. Off the hallway is a walk-in-closet that also has a wood-expansion eruption. I could demo that in a heartbeat. Everything outside the bath was wall-to-wall -- it'd be just as happy over plywood as over oak.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:56 AM (EzgxV)

414 It appears that Sarah Palin is not impressed with RINO Ryan either.

http://bit.ly/1YkP1j9

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

415 Facebook has banned Pamela Geller for having the nerve to criticize muzzies that Obama is flooding the US with.

http://bit.ly/1Udpuph

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

416 And as expected, Obama and every other blindingly stupid liberal in the US uses this tragedy to advance their insane gun control policies in violation of the law of the land. I still say that ever time you hear a liberal turd advance this stupid argument you counter with a proposal to make the Democrat Party illegal.

http://bit.ly/1WKZzc6

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

417 Surprisingly the GOP leadership is not rolling over (yet) on a new SCOTUS appointment by Obama.

http://dailysign.al/21hkoKC

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

418 Ramirez

http://bit.ly/1U8x5bQ

That's it for today folks. Nothing out there but Orlando shooting, which we pretty much beat to death yesterday.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

419 Our local paper in upstate NY has many articles about violence against gays, and the shooting in Orlando. Not one mentioned that the shooter was Muslim and had connections to radical Islam. All were against mostly Republicans who oppose gay marriage. Politicians from the governor on down condemned the killings and never once mentioned Islam or anything like that,

Posted by: Colin at June 13, 2016 05:59 AM (fxoKC)

420 it'd be just as happy over plywood as over oak.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:56 AM (EzgxV)

===
done.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 06:05 AM (iRJ+A)

421 Another day another lie. On Mornng Mika, David Ignatius claimed the Orlando gunman used the equivalent of an M16. They have no shame.

Posted by: Pimping for Paradise at June 13, 2016 06:11 AM (2X7pN)

422 Back when my wife and I were looking at buying a house whenever I saw a hardwood floor I automatically steered away from that house. While they are nice to look at they have a lot of drawbacks. They are cold in the winter. They have a massive amount of upkeep that must be done. And about once every 5 or 10 years they have to be completely refinished to maintain that "good look".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:11 AM (mpXpK)

423 Laid off workers are beginning to speak out about
being laid off due to H1B Visa abuse/fraud. Almost all companies require
them to sign a "silence agreement" to get separation pay. The key here
is that H1B Visas are only supposed to be used when a company certifies
that it can not a fill a position with an American worker. Obviously
they are lying when they lay off an America worker to hire cheaper labor
on an H1B Visa. So why isn't anyone being prosecuted for this fraud?
Answer, neither Party wants them to. This was one of my major gripes
with Cruz. He supported this H1B Visa fraud and actually wanted to
expand it.

http://nyti.ms/1XQQXBx

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

I'm under those same restrictions. Though in my case, the company I worked for purchased a foreign company, then transferred all their operations out of the U.S. It was really fun training my cheaper foreign replacement.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 13, 2016 06:12 AM (Rki1x)

424 420 it'd be just as happy over plywood as over oak.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 05:56 AM (EzgxV)

===
done.

Posted by: jc at June 13, 2016 06:05 AM (iRJ+A)

It'd be lovely if I could wave a wand and put everything back the way it used to be, but even then I couldn't have the entire closet with hardwood (1/2 came from a hallway, 1/2 from a closet). I couldn't do the hallway with hardwood (it ends buried under tile in the bathroom), and I can't do the entire bedroom with hardwood (there's a 6' extension with plywood floors).

So I might as well demo the buckling hardwood and put down ply so I can re-install the wall-to-wall. That's beige. That I hate so much.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:12 AM (EzgxV)

425 How Democrats Win Debates By Corrupting The English Language

'Loopholes', 'stealing' and 'bans'.

Isn't the real problem stupidity? Which of us has not mentally thought these kinds of parodies ("if you don't give me what I want you're stealing") one after another when reading leftist drivel?

If only a sufficient number of people were slightly smarter, all of Soros' and Steyer's billions, all the media's might would be utterly impotent, of zero effect. People would see through this technique as the insubstantial wraith that it is.

Posted by: Mohammed Dali at June 13, 2016 06:15 AM (dHTO7)

426 I see the various 'celebs' are still sharing their touching thoughts, and tributes with the world.

New game idea: "Touching Celebrity Tribute Bingo".

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 13, 2016 06:16 AM (Rki1x)

427 408 Man with an AR-15 and explosives who was going to a CA "Gay Pride" parade to allegedly kill some people was a follower of Hitler and Scankles."

Good morning, all.

No, he wasn't a Hil/Hitler fan. He compared Hitler and Hillary. It looks like he felt the Bern....

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 13, 2016 06:17 AM (P8951)

428 422 Back when my wife and I were looking at buying a house whenever I saw a hardwood floor I automatically steered away from that house. While they are nice to look at they have a lot of drawbacks. They are cold in the winter. They have a massive amount of upkeep that must be done. And about once every 5 or 10 years they have to be completely refinished to maintain that "good look".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:11 AM (mpXpK)

With hardwood, you have area rugs. Wall-to-wall just collects and hides crud.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:17 AM (EzgxV)

429 One thing we are seeing more and more around here is new homes being built on a concrete slab instead of elevated floor joists. That is a lot cheaper and it avoids some problems that elevated floors have. But it introduced a LOT more problems that are unique to slab floors. I would not have a house built on a slab.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:19 AM (mpXpK)

430 423 Laid off workers are beginning to speak out about
being laid off due to H1B Visa abuse/fraud. Almost all companies require
them to sign a "silence agreement" to get separation pay. The key here
is that H1B Visas are only supposed to be used when a company certifies
that it can not a fill a position with an American worker. Obviously
they are lying when they lay off an America worker to hire cheaper labor
on an H1B Visa. So why isn't anyone being prosecuted for this fraud?
Answer, neither Party wants them to. This was one of my major gripes
with Cruz. He supported this H1B Visa fraud and actually wanted to
expand it.

http://nyti.ms/1XQQXBx

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

I'm under those same restrictions. Though in my case, the company I worked for purchased a foreign company, then transferred all their operations out of the U.S. It was really fun training my cheaper foreign replacement.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 13, 2016 06:12 AM (Rki1x)

Probably wouldn't have done so except for the insane amount of sovereign debt here....(@23

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:20 AM (EzgxV)

431 428 With hardwood, you have area rugs. Wall-to-wall just collects and hides crud.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:17 AM (EzgxV)

Not if you vacuum it regularly and shampoo the carpets about once every two years.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:21 AM (mpXpK)

432 422 Back when my wife and I were looking at buying a
house whenever I saw a hardwood floor I automatically steered away from
that house. While they are nice to look at they have a lot of
drawbacks. They are cold in the winter. They have a massive amount of
upkeep that must be done. And about once every 5 or 10 years they have
to be completely refinished to maintain that "good look".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:11 AM (mpXpK)

With hardwood, you have area rugs. Wall-to-wall just collects and hides crud.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:17 AM (EzgxV)

My grandmother had a house with hardwood floors throughout...and all of it was covered with w/w carpet. Every few years, she'd have the carpet torn out, refinish the wood floors, and then have new carpet installed.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 13, 2016 06:21 AM (Rki1x)

433 My grandmother had a house with hardwood floors
throughout...and all of it was covered with w/w carpet. Every few years,
she'd have the carpet torn out, refinish the wood floors, and then have
new carpet installed.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 13, 2016 06:21 AM (Rki1x)

My MIL's house is like that. What is the point in having a hardwood floor if you are going to put carpet down over the top of it? My FIL once pulled the carpet up and refinished the floor and then put carpet back down!

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:25 AM (mpXpK)

434 Again, the UK paper tell it like it is about the Orlando shooting, The US papers are all about NRA, gun control etc., What a difference.....

Posted by: Colin at June 13, 2016 06:27 AM (fxoKC)

435 429 One thing we are seeing more and more around here is new homes being built on a concrete slab instead of elevated floor joists. That is a lot cheaper and it avoids some problems that elevated floors have. But it introduced a LOT more problems that are unique to slab floors. I would not have a house built on a slab.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:19 AM (mpXpK)

The houses we built that put me through college were on slab. There are advantages and disadvantages of each.

Interestingly, some of the major advantages of slab involve their resistance to plumbing problems, while some disadvantages of slab involve the difficulties of working on plumbing issues in a slab environment. Tricky design might have a slab foundation adjacent to a pier foundation where baths and lavs were on the slab but plumbed from the pier side.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:29 AM (EzgxV)

436
431 428 With hardwood, you have area rugs. Wall-to-wall just collects and hides crud.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:17 AM (EzgxV)

Not if you vacuum it regularly and shampoo the carpets about once every two years.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:21 AM (mpXpK)

I've done both. I'll probably never do wall-to-wall again.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:30 AM (EzgxV)

437 Build up the subfloor and then put in Pergo.

You will feel like you just burned a steak, but that will fade.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 06:31 AM (MQEz6)

438 Good morning

Posted by: @votermom at June 13, 2016 06:32 AM (7lVbc)

439 Saw some tweets that some eyewitnesses claim there were two shooters.
Don't know if that's just eyewitness confusion -- in San Bernardino it was 3, then 2, then after the longest time, a third guy.

Posted by: @votermom at June 13, 2016 06:34 AM (7lVbc)

440 I wonder how much the NRA membership numbers have changed in the last 24 hours.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 06:34 AM (MQEz6)

441 435 Interestingly, some of the major advantages of slab
involve their resistance to plumbing problems, while some disadvantages
of slab involve the difficulties of working on plumbing issues in a slab
environment. Tricky design might have a slab foundation adjacent to a
pier foundation where baths and lavs were on the slab but plumbed from
the pier side.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:29 AM (EzgxV)

From what I have seen around here they create plumping problems when builders did not know how to do them correctly. Had a guy at work come home to a foot of water in the house because pipe had broken off where it penetrated the slab floor. The builder had not routed it through the concrete correctly and the continued chaffing of the PVC pipe on the concrete caused it to fracture.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:36 AM (mpXpK)

442 436
431 428 With hardwood, you have area rugs. Wall-to-wall just collects and hides crud.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:17 AM (EzgxV)

Not if you vacuum it regularly and shampoo the carpets about once every two years.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:21 AM (mpXpK)

I've done both. I'll probably never do wall-to-wall again.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:30 AM (EzgxV)

Other items in "never again" -- we'll probably always do undermount sinks and continuous-surface (granite, quartz) countertops. And the cabinets that have the sink? -- extend them an extra 1-1/2 inches from the wall (width of a 2x4) -- don't ask why.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:37 AM (EzgxV)

443 I'm sick and tired of all these muthafuckin ashtrays on this muthafuckin plane!

Posted by: Samuel L Jackhole at June 13, 2016 06:39 AM (dHTO7)

444 Watch it, make a copy before the memory hole opens.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/h7lh5wx

Eyewitness account of the shooting. Claims more than one shooter.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 13, 2016 06:39 AM (WVsWD)

445 I kinda wish we had hardwood floors that were just waxed instead of poly-urethaned

Posted by: @votermom at June 13, 2016 06:40 AM (7lVbc)

446 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 13, 2016 06:40 AM (ptqRm)

447 445
I kinda wish we had hardwood floors that were just waxed instead of poly-urethaned

Posted by: @votermom at June 13, 2016 06:40 AM (7lVbc)

I thought most people did both.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:42 AM (mpXpK)

448 The list of dead is not complete yet but I've counted four female names already. So the shooter, allegedly upset by the sight of two guys kissing in a bathroom, didn't seem to target gay males specifically.

Not sure what to make of that, if anything.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 13, 2016 06:43 AM (ZnIt3)

449 437 Build up the subfloor and then put in Pergo.

You will feel like you just burned a steak, but that will fade.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 06:31 AM (MQEz6)

I put in some Bruce Laminate a while back. It is a nice material.

Thing is, it's not about the square footage -- I did a hallway and I could have done a basketball court with the same amount of effort....because what kills you is the doors. I had nine doors in my hallway.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:43 AM (EzgxV)

450 439 Saw some tweets that some eyewitnesses claim there were two shooters.
Don't know if that's just eyewitness confusion -- in San Bernardino it was 3, then 2, then after the longest time, a third guy.

Posted by: @votermom at June 13, 2016 06:34 AM (7lVbc)

I'm seeing indications of accomplices blockading the doors while the shooter was active, then fleeing.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:45 AM (EzgxV)

451 Yesterday, the media talked of how Obama cam out for the 15th time to talk of gun violence.

On the 14th time, Mr Obama gave the solution of universal background checks as one of the solutions.

It appears that not only was the perpetrator of this violence given a background check but the FBI talked to him at least 3 times, but still he was able to recently buy two of the weapons used to kill 50 without any difficulty.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at June 13, 2016 06:46 AM (e8kgV)

452 I thought most people did both.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:42 AM (mpXpK)

They do?

Posted by: @votermom at June 13, 2016 06:47 AM (7lVbc)

453 Today is a good day for people on TV shows to abandon decorum.

When Lefty assholes starts spewing retarded lies, stop them, rudely.

Get in their faces.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2016 06:47 AM (MQEz6)

454 I kinda wish we had hardwood floors that were just waxed instead of poly-urethaned�Posted by:�@votermom

That's what I have. Anytime I want to 'perk' them up I either use some cheap dollar store baby oil or more expensive teak oil. Maybe once or twice a year. Quick and easy with wide swifter style pad.

I like the look of a dull sheen. Poly is too shiny and scratches easily.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 13, 2016 06:48 AM (ZnIt3)

455 There is a huge big mosque on I75 just south of Toledo. Beautiful place. I have never seen one car in the parking lot.
Posted by: Emmanual the Estancion at June 12, 2016 11:54 PM (M5YIm)

I do work for one of the board members. That place has been there since the early 80's. I don't believe they are radical, but they're about has helpful as all "moderate" Muslims.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 13, 2016 06:48 AM (Ee2nz)

456 441 435 Interestingly, some of the major advantages of slab
involve their resistance to plumbing problems, while some disadvantages
of slab involve the difficulties of working on plumbing issues in a slab
environment. Tricky design might have a slab foundation adjacent to a
pier foundation where baths and lavs were on the slab but plumbed from
the pier side.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:29 AM (EzgxV)

From what I have seen around here they create plumping problems when builders did not know how to do them correctly. Had a guy at work come home to a foot of water in the house because pipe had broken off where it penetrated the slab floor. The builder had not routed it through the concrete correctly and the continued chaffing of the PVC pipe on the concrete caused it to fracture.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:36 AM (mpXpK)

Ahem. Not saying that I know anything about this....but I'm given to understand that sometimes when the pipes come up in the wrong place, they're "softened" with a torch and adjusted into the right place -- instead of cutting the concrete, digging out the dirt, redoing the join, bringing it up in the right place, backfilling, tamping, and pouring more concrete.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 06:49 AM (EzgxV)

457 The shooter was an obnoxious asshole who was given a pass because he was muslim.

Posted by: Ed Anger at June 13, 2016 06:51 AM (RcpcZ)

458 439
Saw some tweets that some eyewitnesses claim there were two shooters.

Don't know if that's just eyewitness confusion -- in San Bernardino it was 3, then 2, then after the longest time, a third guy.

Posted by: @votermom at June 13, 2016 06:34 AM (7lVbc)

Well think about this he killed 50 and wounded 50. That has to mean between 150 and 200 rounds were expended. The standard AR-15 magazine is 20 rounds so if he was using a standard magazine he would have had to change magazines between 3 to 10 times.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:53 AM (mpXpK)

459

NOOD.

EMT up.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2016 06:54 AM (p4UlV)

460 I'm seeing indications of accomplices blockading the doors while the shooter was active, then fleeing.

There's a story out of a guy who admitted blocking a door because they were afraid the shooter would be able to kill the people fleeing through a hole in a fence, and they were backed up twenty people deep. It was a service door. It that what you are talking about?

Posted by: no good deed at June 13, 2016 06:55 AM (9nt94)

461 452
I thought most people did both.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:42 AM (mpXpK)

They do?

Posted by: @votermom at June 13, 2016 06:47 AM (7lVbc)

I think so. When my FIL refinished his floors after sanding and restaining the floor he put down polyurethane to seal it. The used a paste wax over that for "shine".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 13, 2016 06:55 AM (mpXpK)

462 The standard AR-15 magazine is 20 rounds so if he was using a standard magazine he would have had to change magazines between 3 to 10 times.Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Yet nobody thought to charge the son-of-satan while he was preoccupied with reloading. Tough to say what I'd do in a situation like that but if you're gonna die anyway...

How much time to reload?

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 13, 2016 06:58 AM (ZnIt3)

463 Thermostat reads 63......buh-bye.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 13, 2016 07:01 AM (EzgxV)

464 231 Posted by: Blano at June 13, 2016 12:34 AM (lbcdD)

Yes

Yes

No

A lack of sleep, (not as bad as years prior) and henpecking at 65 words a minute.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 13, 2016 07:15 AM (g8Hfr)

465 460 Posted by: no good deed at June 13, 2016 06:55 AM (9nt94)

Allegedly the shooter said in his "Aloha ISIS" call he was "shooter #4"....

make of it what you will...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 13, 2016 07:16 AM (g8Hfr)

466 Allegedly the shooter said in his "Aloha ISIS" call he was "shooter #4"....

make of it what you will...

Classic mindfuck.
Release three pigs in high school painted 1, 2, & 4. See how long they spend looking for #3.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2016 07:23 AM (/B6Iw)

467 427 Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 13, 2016 06:17 AM (P8951)

If he were 24 I'd say he would have tried Luap Nor at least once....

that type of vibe.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 13, 2016 07:26 AM (g8Hfr)

468 462 Posted by: Lice Wags at June 13, 2016 06:58 AM (ZnIt3)

If trained (which he was) 3/4ths a second....

and the usual modern mag is 30 rounds...

The guy was monologuing like a demonic Dr Phil if there had been one or two CCWs in the crowd...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 13, 2016 07:28 AM (g8Hfr)

469 17 Yvonne DeCarlo is Italian for Ms. Hurricane Screendoor, isn't it?
Posted by: Jim at June 12, 2016 11:32 PM (v5iqM)

Yvonne DeCarlo is Italian for I Am Here For Your Offer To Borrow Funding Which I Would Repay On Installment In Order To Purchase An Automobile.

Posted by: BuddyPC at June 13, 2016 08:17 AM (mIQJh)

470 I suspect Gilroy left for a variety of reasons. I checked
and Gilroy was in an incident that went viral back in 2007 when he was with the Fort Pierce PD. Even though
Gilroy probably did as much as a solo cop could do in the
circumstances, any excessive force incident caught on camera that garnered tens of thousands of views is likely to be a
definite turn off for any future employers. He also may have been told by the small FPPD that he could stay around to make his 20, but he'd have to leave after that.

A job beneath his skill level
plus an obnoxious co-worker may have been more than he wanted to deal
with.

Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at June 13, 2016 08:45 AM (kokyd)

471 Wow, that was WIRED's 2nd or 3rd "defense of Gawker post in a few days.

I'm guessing they had a good "we are posting revenge porn for a blackmailer" scoop they'd already paid for on the back burner ready to go; and are now upset that being an accomplice to extortion has a penalty associated with it?

I don't see why they'd be so up in arms otherwise.

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