EMT 6/12/16 [krakatoa]

Sunday Already. If you were in Argentina, that would mean one more work day until the weekend.

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1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Sunday, June 12, 2016. On this day in 1978 David Berkowitz, the "Son of Sam" killer in New York City, was sentenced to 365 years in prison for six killings. At the time of his conviction there was no death penalty in NY. It was later reinstated but was again struck down by the NY Supreme Court in 2004 based on BS. Berkowitz is still getting his three hots and a cot at taxpayer expense.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

2 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at June 12, 2016 05:56 AM (d9qXV)

3 Breaking: Multiple shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando.

http://fxn.ws/1ZHZWlK

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

4 FL police have now named the loon who killed Grimmie. They also said he drove all the way from St Petersburg just to kill her. Good thing FL taxpayers will not have to support his three hots and a cot for life.

http://fxn.ws/1Oj2E0t

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

5 Obama is pushing in 100 of those phony muzzie Syrian refugees per day to be supported by tax payers.

http://bit.ly/1ZHaZeQ

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

6 One of Scankles' temper tantrums is coming back to haunt her. She once screamed "you Jew bastard" at her husband's campaign manager. She now denies it but there are three witnesses. She is pushing hard for the Jewish vote now. The sad thing is she will probably still get it.

http://bit.ly/1U2644A

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

7 Vic has beat me all weekend on the EMT for the first time since October.

Posted by: Skip at June 12, 2016 05:57 AM (d9qXV)

8 Our corrupt DOS admits that Israel is the only country they ever urge to show restraint after an act of terrorism.

http://bit.ly/1ZHuLH7

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

9
Another word is added to the "racism" vocabulary.

http://bit.ly/1WK1gXh

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

10 Big Chief Lyingwatha was not always a Scankles fan.

http://bit.ly/1tpflNU

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

11 Read up on the Brit wind farm scandal. And know this, the same shit is happening here.

http://bit.ly/1rjgvsg

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

12 German courts are already making rulings based on Sharia law. The same thing will happen here if Obama is allowed to continue.

http://bit.ly/1Ucj2yR

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

13 Ramirez

http://bit.ly/1VSX3zA

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:58 AM (mpXpK)

14 And finally, this is how much Weather Underground has been subverted since being bought out by TWC. Quote:

Mainly sunny. Near record high temperatures. High 98F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph.

Highs at or above 98F are routine here at this time of the year. Of course, I keep my own records.

That's it for today folks. Almost nothing out there this morning.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

15

DAY 1,314

149 to go (222 to Inauguration Day )

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mario's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:00 AM (p4UlV)

16 Sunday Already. If you were in Argentina, that would mean one more work day until the weekend.

Everyday is weekend for me. But I had to first work for nearly 40 years to get that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

17 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 12, 2016 06:03 AM (KCxzN)

18 Oh, sure, leave me talking to myself in the other thread.

Krauts are saying 9 dead and 24 wounded.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 06:09 AM (iQIUe)

19
What shooting, where? I see nothing on line.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:15 AM (p4UlV)

20
In #NeverTrump news:

At a private summit Park City, Utah for conservative donors hosted by Mitt Romney, Hewlett-Packard CEO Meg Whitman reportedly compared Donald Trump to Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini and, according to another donor that was present, asked rhetorically why she shouldn't support Clinton.

The Hill

Former California GOP candidate for Governor in "The Year of the Woman".

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 12, 2016 06:15 AM (kdS6q)

21
This shooting --> Berichten zufolge tragen mehrere Geiseln Bomben und befinden sich noch im Gebäude, mindestens 9 Tote gemeldet.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 06:20 AM (iQIUe)

22 At a private summit Park City, Utah for conservative donors hosted by Mitt Romney...

Conservative and Mitt Romney in the same sentence?
Bullshit.

Go away, Mitt. What part of 'you lost' don't you understand?

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 06:20 AM (ZnIt3)

23
It's always about themselves being in power. It has nothing to do with conservatism.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 06:21 AM (iQIUe)

24 20 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 12, 2016 06:15 AM (kdS6q)

As I had feared, the GOP and Trump are foundering and the Democrats are solidifying around the Old Hag.

We're going to lose. And big.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:22 AM (p4UlV)

25 21 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 06:20 AM (iQIUe)

I don't speak German. You got subtitles?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:24 AM (p4UlV)

26
They say shooters but I only find one shooter and he is dead. Also, there are no hostages. First they said 40 shot then they said 20 but with 9 dead.

I am now getting Win 10 popups every couple of hours. This latest one looked like it was trying to install - the fckers.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 06:24 AM (iQIUe)

27 12 German courts are already making rulings based on Sharia law. The same thing will happen here if Hillary is allowed to continue.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Updated it for you Vic

Posted by: Skip at June 12, 2016 06:28 AM (d9qXV)

28 We're going to lose. And big.Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Or, we're going to win. And win big.

I still see the parallels to 1979. Polling in the exact same range to date. The battleground states are in a virtual tie right now.

We will have a non-wimp as candidate who will fight back. It's capitalism v socialism, ninth inning. The umpire is go___ out to the mound to talk to Hillary. She's kicking dirt on his shoes...

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 06:30 AM (ZnIt3)

29
Audio of shooting??

https://goo.gl/vValUM

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 06:30 AM (iQIUe)

30 The computer did a reasonable job interpreting language.
I miss that machine.

Posted by: Skip at June 12, 2016 06:31 AM (d9qXV)

31
I thought the shooting was in Germany. Homo nightclub in Orlando.

Was the shooter a "sand Lutheran?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:31 AM (p4UlV)

32 28 Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 06:30 AM (ZnIt3)

Except the differences between Clinton and Trump on key issues are a lot closer than Carter and Reagan.

I mean, when Trump is out there crowing about wooing disaffected Sanders voters as opposed to us regular Americans, that just pisses me off and raises alarm bells.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:33 AM (p4UlV)

33 One of the teacher friends of my wife posted a FB picture on "women landing on Normandy beach" of course they are also "badass"!!!
One of her libby teacher friends replies...This is why we have to throw out all of the history books!!

I take one look at the pics and you can see the battle hard women jumping one foot off of a LC with her combat skirt and saddle shoes.

Link leads to Snopes
http://tinyurl.com/hjezcul

Posted by: Bruce at June 12, 2016 06:34 AM (8ikIW)

34 100 fake Syrian refugees a day living large on the taxpayers dime and gallop has Obamas approval at 54pct.

The same gallop poll listed real unemployment at over 9pct.

54pct, Unbelievable!

This is what happens when you have no opposition party.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 12, 2016 06:34 AM (nivMO)

35 To me the whole picture is most states votes are written in stone, there is no guessing which way they will go. Only a few are purple and it is a toss up. But the trend is purple to blue and in another 10 years down the road a couple of more purple will change. A Socialist president is coming, as in Venezuela people will vote themselves free stuff and when third dreams meet the road and become reality they have to deal with it. The same thing here will happen.

Posted by: Skip at June 12, 2016 06:37 AM (d9qXV)

36
In rape news, just making stuff up now:

Sixteen California state lawmakers are calling for the state agency that investigates judicial misconduct to take disciplinary action against the judge in the Stanford sexual-assault case that sparked national outrage.

The lawmakers letter said the commission, which can reprimand or remove judges for conduct that violates judicial ethics, could find that Persky engaged in misconduct if it concludes he acted in a way that adversely affected the publics perception of the judiciary.

"Judge Perskys bias, whether intentional or inadvertent, affects the esteem of the judiciary in the eyes of the public, which undermines the public confidence in the integrity and the independence of the judiciary system," the lawmakers wrote.

SFGate

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 12, 2016 06:38 AM (kdS6q)

37
Over at Weasel Zippers, the remains of PFC John Saini USMC finally come home to be laid to rest. He was killed on Tarawa in 1943.

G-d bless you, sir.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:39 AM (p4UlV)

38 Didn't see anything on type of club, but if it's a minority one I wouldn't expect to.

Posted by: Skip at June 12, 2016 06:40 AM (d9qXV)

39 I mean, when Trump is out there crowing about wooing disaffected Sanders voters as opposed to us regular Americans, that just pisses me off and raises alarm bells.Posted by: J.J. Sefton

I suspect, as a former business owner who had dealings with banks (obscenities redacted), that the Donald can speak from the heart about how sleazy those (obscenities once again redacted) are. So he kinda does have that in common with the Bernie people.

Not sure if that will translate into them getting off their lazy asses in November. Not sure that them staying home is a bad thing either.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 06:40 AM (ZnIt3)

40 I mean, when Trump is out there crowing about wooing
disaffected Sanders voters as opposed to us regular Americans, that
just pisses me off and raises alarm bells.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:33 AM (p4UlV)

Candidates from both parties do this after every primary. There's nothing scary or worrisome about it.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 12, 2016 06:40 AM (Rki1x)

41 As long as the judge followed the law and made a record, the sentence is legal. If he didnt, the state would appeal. For the so called rapey lawmakers to get involved smacks more of lefty fascism.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 06:41 AM (iQIUe)

42
Meanwhile, in San Francisco you can pay $16 for a cup of coffee that comes with a BS hard luck story:

https://tinyurl.com/j75uv8v

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 12, 2016 06:42 AM (kdS6q)

43 Meanwhile, in San Francisco you can pay $16 for a cup of coffee that comes with a BS hard luck story:

I'm thinking most people that order it are going to want it in a triple caramel raspberry machiato with sprinkles.

Posted by: Bruce at June 12, 2016 06:45 AM (8ikIW)

44 Everyday is weekend for me.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

Same here.

But I had to first work for nearly 40 years to get that.

Lucky you. I worked for 30 plus years but had to have a heart attack to get to that 'everyday is a weekend for me' 'lifestyle'.

Posted by: RickZ at June 12, 2016 06:45 AM (sEdKH)

45 Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 12, 2016 06:40 AM (Rki1x)

Your equivocation is thoroughly unconvincing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:46 AM (p4UlV)

46 They want to call it homophobia but at this stage it is just as likely to be disgruntled employee or love triangle.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 06:48 AM (iQIUe)

47
Some msm are reporting the distance of the where the singer was shot to the nightclub as if that is relevant.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 06:49 AM (iQIUe)

48
By the way, back in 80 and 84, Ronald Reagan spoke about freedom, free enterprise and liberty. He didn't say "my views on trade are actually pretty close to Bernie Sanders."

That does not instill strength and confidence in me. And if it's about preventing Hilary from winning, it would behoove Mr. Trump to woo the base - the base that Romney, McCain, Dole and all the others shit upon.

But, I'm stupid and I just don't get it, right?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:49 AM (p4UlV)

49 I think the easiest way for Trump to lose is to start talking like the rest of the polished politicians. Canned responses guaranteed not to offend everyone. Slick replies tested by focus groups scattered with a few strategically placed no comments.

Trump will be Trump no matter what. Trump being Trump is why I think he will win handily.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 06:50 AM (WVsWD)

50 46 They want to call it homophobia but at this stage it is just as likely to be disgruntled employee or love triangle.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 06:48 AM (iQIUe)

Who was that homo that they tried to make a martyr out of, but who was actually a crystal meth dealer and killed by a rival dealer?

In this case, homos killed with guns is just begging to be turned into another leftist "Kristallnacht."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:51 AM (p4UlV)

51 49 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 06:50 AM (WVsWD)

And conversely, the easiest way to win is to start talking like a conservative.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:51 AM (p4UlV)

52
Seriously, "Yemen Hayma Hussein al-Haba Coffee - flavors of Dried strawberry, coffee blossom, crystalline" at $65 for a 6 oz bag, cause it was supposedly smuggled out of Arabia up someone tuchus or something:

https://tinyurl.com/z4fjct2

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 12, 2016 06:52 AM (kdS6q)

53 Thanks to Affirmative Action my life has been a weekend. Bitches.

Posted by: POTUS at June 12, 2016 06:54 AM (gwG9s)

54 No JJ, you're not stupid. Just a few data points to keep in mind...
There's no great American love affair between the Clintons and the American people. Bill Clinton never got 50% of the vote.
Eight million fewer democrats voted in this primary than in years past.
I'd say apathy on their side is approaching hysteric proportions.
Disaffected Bernie supporters may switch allegiance or stay home.

We're approaching perfect storm, in the Bermuda triangle, type of an election.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 06:57 AM (ZnIt3)

55 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:51 AM (p4UlV)

But me this but here J.J.

We all know that Trump is not a Conservative in the way that Senator Cruz is. For him to start talking like one would be a sure sign of phoniness.

Trump is not actively shitting on the base. That in itself is quite refreshing.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 06:57 AM (WVsWD)

56 46 They want to call it homophobia but at this stage it is just as likely to be disgruntled employee or love triangle.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 06:48 AM
~~~~
Or an islamonazi. They're not too keen on gays.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 06:57 AM (Lsu4e)

57 52
Seriously, "Yemen Hayma Hussein al-Haba Coffee - flavors of Dried strawberry, coffee blossom, crystalline" at $65 for a 6 oz bag, cause it was supposedly smuggled out of Arabia up someone tuchus or something:

https://tinyurl.com/z4fjct2
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 12, 2016 06:52 AM (kdS6q)

Saudi Arabia is not exactly a coffee growing region. How are they roasting it? Do they stone the grounds or throw them off roofs?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:57 AM (p4UlV)

58 Saudi Arabia is not exactly a coffee growing region.
How are they roasting it? Do they stone the grounds or throw them off
roofs?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Feed the beans to goats and pick the grounds out of the crap.

Like Civet cats.

Posted by: Bruce at June 12, 2016 06:59 AM (8ikIW)

59 55 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:51 AM (p4UlV)

But me this but here J.J.

We all know that Trump is not a Conservative in the way that Senator Cruz is. For him to start talking like one would be a sure sign of phoniness.

Trump is not actively shitting on the base. That in itself is quite refreshing.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 06:57 AM (WVsWD)

G-d bless you, but you just really twist yourself into all sorts of contortions.

*sigh*

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:59 AM (p4UlV)

60 54 Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 06:57 AM (ZnIt3)

You'll recall that SCOAMF lost millions of votes from 08 to 12 and Mitt still got his ass kicked, proportionally even worse than McStains.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:00 AM (p4UlV)

61 G-d bless you, but you just really twist yourself into all sorts of contortions.

*sigh*

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:59 AM (p4UlV)

How am I twisting myself?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 07:02 AM (WVsWD)

62 Who was that homo that they tried to make a martyr out of, but who was actually a crystal meth dealer and killed by a rival dealer?

Matthew Shepard, I believe. The Trayvon of cocksuckerage.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 12, 2016 07:03 AM (ZEzaq)

63 I have spent the last 6 months reading Ace and everyone else tell us how unconservative Trump is.

What did I miss?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 07:04 AM (WVsWD)

64 You'll recall that SCOAMF lost millions of votes from 08 to 12 and Mitt still got his ass kicked, proportionally even worse than McStains. Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Their wasn't a whole lot to like about Mitt and Ryan. I still gag at the thought of the Ryan/Biden debate. Mitt had a good first debate, then surrendered. Neither of them were fighters.

Can't say that about DT.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 07:05 AM (ZnIt3)

65 Your equivocation is thoroughly unconvincing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:46 AM (p4UlV)

Feel free to remain unconvinced. It still happens during every presidential election.

I get that you don't like Trump, and I get that there is plenty about the man not to like. But disliking Trump because of this is reaching.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 12, 2016 07:06 AM (Rki1x)

66
Eighty Six degrees early afternoon yesterday. Twelve hours later it was fourty four.

Posted by: Frankly Potent at June 12, 2016 07:07 AM (7l3Bf)

67 44 Lucky you. I worked for 30 plus years but had to have a heart attack to get to that 'everyday is a weekend for me' 'lifestyle'.

Posted by: RickZ at June 12, 2016 06:45 AM (sEdKH)

I had my heart attack the year I retired. We had one guy who retired and got up the first day of retirement and had a heart attack and died.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 07:07 AM (mpXpK)

68 47 Some msm are reporting the distance of the where the singer was shot to the nightclub as if that is relevant.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 06:49 AM (iQIUe)

Yeah the Fox link above remarks that he had to drive a long way to shoot that girl. And they gave a picture. He was sure a dorky looking turd.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 07:09 AM (mpXpK)

69 Who was that homo that they tried to make a martyr out of, but who was actually a crystal meth dealer and killed by a rival dealer.

Matthew Shepard, I believe. The Trayvon of cocksuckerage.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 12, 2016 07:03 AM (ZEzaq)

I remember a Criminal Minds episode a few years back where one female profiler said, 'It's a hate crime, like Matthew Shepherd'.

The 'Matthew Shepherd was a gay victim of homophobia' meme will live forever because the Truth is just so damn inconvenient. (Pun intended and no apologies to the Gore-acle.)

Posted by: RickZ at June 12, 2016 07:10 AM (sEdKH)

70 Orlando police saying the shooter had a rifle, handgun and a "device" on him. They are checking for other "devices."

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 07:10 AM (Lsu4e)

71 A news conf with the cops shd be starting now.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 07:10 AM (iQIUe)

72 Ugh. Now they are calling it a "domestic terror" incident. Lutherans no doubt.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 07:12 AM (Lsu4e)

73 A news conf with the cops shd be starting now.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 07:10 AM

That's what I'm watching.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 07:13 AM (Lsu4e)

74 Bush v Perot v Clinton is how this election looks to me. Ignore the worst parts of Bush, add in the 'America First' aspects of Perot, and Hillary Clinton is toast.

If DT can thread that needle. And raise the warchest. Which Mittens seems to want to deprive him of.

Veep is gonna be important, too. Someone with strong appeal in battleground states.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 07:16 AM (ZnIt3)

75 Orlando gay nightclub witness: shooting might have lasted a whole song. Club name: Pulse.

Posted by: The Weather Girls at June 12, 2016 07:17 AM (gwG9s)

76
Beserkers.

There was a short story years ago where the author had a throw away line in the story. The hero is walking down the street of some future big city and some guy goes beserk and starts attacking people. Weapon wasn't mention, just 'went beserk'. The most amazing thing what the casual off hand mention, like it was common in the future big city; a road rage kind of story.

All the other characters in the story just dodged around it and went on with their lives. All the author was doing was extrapolating from a theory that population density, the common bumping into people, elbows, and annoyances had an effect on the .0001 percent of the population and they just snapped. It had nothing to do with the story, some kind of detective story, but that one throw away line is the only part of the story that I remember fifty years later.

Posted by: Frankly Potent at June 12, 2016 07:18 AM (7l3Bf)

77 61
How am I twisting myself?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 07:02 AM (WVsWD)

I don't think there are degrees of conservatism. I think either you are or you're not. Many of the things that Mr. Trump supports confirm this. He will clinch the nomination with only about 41% of the votes in the primaries. 60% of GOP voters chose someone else. And he is not actively wooing that very large base. And saying that all other nominees reached out to Democrats is not a solid argument. Especially since Democrats of yore are not the ones we have today. Trying to woo Bernie supporters by saying you agree with him on certain issues (a raving Marxist) is not the same as wooing blue collar Democrats with free market capitalism.

That's my perception, and it raises very deep concerns with me. Not with you. You want to sort of slough it off. And the fact that Hilary Clinton is not being utterly destroyed in the polls is telling. Yes I know, early polling and all. But it should not even be a contest at all. And yet, here we are.

Now, I will enjoy my kosher McMuffin.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:18 AM (p4UlV)

78 Sixteen California state lawmakers are calling for the state agency that investigates judicial misconduct to take disciplinary action against the judge in the Stanford sexual-assault case that sparked national outrage.

Was it within sentencing guidelines?

Did he get the minimum?

If so, what would warrant the minimum? What would be less egregious than this case? What makes this case deserving of punishment beyond that floor?

This is sentencing by torches and pitchforks.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 12, 2016 07:19 AM (nIGPZ)

79 Funny, eh? And we know it was terrorism because we know the dude wasn't a Muslim, wasn't black, most likely, and was not from any favored ethnicity.

Means he's prob a white male. Full bio in about 30 minutes, I'm sure.

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at June 12, 2016 07:20 AM (rrT5s)

80 Hmmm...there were four (4) devices found so far.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 07:21 AM (Lsu4e)

81 Orlando gay nightclub witness: shooting might have lasted a whole song. Club name: Pulse.

======

shouldn't have said that

Donna Summer's I Will Survive?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 12, 2016 07:22 AM (Cq0oW)

82 Just got up, and half of the world news is already over for the day. NY court upholds Cuomo's $15 min wage. Maybe the Judges want some of the $ that the SEIU is pumping into campaigns. Pitty the young starting out worker, no one will hire them and automation will replace many. I guess the lure of union dollars is just to great for the Politicians..

Posted by: Colin at June 12, 2016 07:22 AM (fxoKC)

83 Suspect is dead, but they can't give a description. However, they do know that he was "not from the area." WTH?

Twisting themselves into pretzels.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 07:23 AM (Lsu4e)

84 Orlando gay nightclub witness: shooting might have lasted a whole song.

It's Raining Men?

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 07:23 AM (ZnIt3)

85 79
Funny, eh? And we know it was terrorism because we know the dude wasn't a
Muslim, wasn't black, most likely, and was not from any favored
ethnicity.

Means he's prob a white male. Full bio in about 30 minutes, I'm sure.

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at June 12, 2016 07:20 AM (rrT5s)

The victims were members of the newest "protected" group and darlings of the libs, the gays. And they are just dieing to make the shooter a Southern Baptist redneck with automatic weapons he bought at a gun show.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 07:23 AM (mpXpK)

86 Next update on Orlando shooting will be at 9:30AM.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 07:24 AM (Lsu4e)

87 That's who it would be, even if he were Abdul Hakim fathi from Syria.

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at June 12, 2016 07:25 AM (rrT5s)

88 Oh, wait a minute, the 'Weather Girls' already did that joke.

Sorry.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 07:26 AM (ZnIt3)

89 Meanwhile 3 dead, 14 shot in Chicago....Ho. Hum....Meanwhile, in Baltimore, 13 year old "boy" shot in spat of shootings, whatever that means, Baltimore Sun is always kind of evasive. Chicago Tribune is more factual.

Posted by: Colin at June 12, 2016 07:27 AM (fxoKC)

90 The victims were members of the newest "protected"
group and darlings of the libs, the gays. And they are just dieing to
make the shooter a Southern Baptist redneck with automatic weapons he
bought at a gun show.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 07:23 AM
~~~~~
^^^^ Absolutely.

Police chief already said shooter had a handgun and an "assault rifle," in addition to a "suspicious device" that they do not want to identify as a bomb yet. And they found four other "suspicious devices" so far.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 07:28 AM (Lsu4e)

91 Update from Zip has

When asked about any Islamic involvement, the reply was that there were some indications that shooter leaned towards that ideology.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:29 AM (ptqRm)

92 82 Posted by: Colin at June 12, 2016 07:22 AM (fxoKC)

What is the story on that minimum wage. Did Cuomo pull it out of his ass with pen and phone or did the legislature pass it first?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 07:29 AM (mpXpK)

93 Baltimore County will pay $1.5 million to the mother of a 17-year-old
boy who died after an off-duty county police officer chased him in
Randallstown and allegedly put him in a chokehold in 2012. The
settlement is among the largest ever to be reached in Baltimore County.

Baltimore city/county likes to pay out... must pay to sue the police.

Posted by: Colin at June 12, 2016 07:29 AM (fxoKC)

94
Disco Inferno?

Now, I will go to Hell.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:29 AM (p4UlV)

95 Meanwhile, in Baltimore, 13 year old "boy" shot in spat of shootings, whatever that means, "

Local report is that there are suspicions that the 13 year old was "Targeted" as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:30 AM (ptqRm)

96 91 Update from Zip has

When asked about any Islamic involvement, the reply was that there were some indications that shooter leaned towards that ideology.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:29 AM (ptqRm)

And there it goes. Scrubbed from all the MFM news sites.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:30 AM (p4UlV)

97
One hundred Syrians a day coming to a suburb near you because Obama promised us a 'civilian force as well armed and well trained as the US Military'. for some reason.

You can get there by training and equiping a civilian force up to milspec, or you can reduce funding for military training and equiping and stop training military in warfighting skills and divert your training funding to gender studies and diversity, or you can do both.

The only question has been, 'why does Obama want a well trained and equipt private army, loyal to him?'

Posted by: Frankly Potent at June 12, 2016 07:31 AM (7l3Bf)

98 Hillary Clinton worries me. I support the Republican nominee.

Posted by: Early at June 12, 2016 07:31 AM (0+srV)

99 81
Donna Summer's I Will Survive?
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 12, 2016 07:22 AM (Cq0oW)

Gloria Gaynor.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:31 AM (p4UlV)

100 91 When asked about any Islamic involvement, the reply
was that there were some indications that shooter leaned towards that
ideology.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:29 AM (ptqRm)

That means he was a towel head named mohamed screaming allah akbar while shooting.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 07:31 AM (mpXpK)

101 Probably incensed by something Trump or Bush said.

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at June 12, 2016 07:33 AM (rrT5s)

102 "He will clinch the nomination with only about 41% of the votes in the primaries. 60% of GOP voters chose someone else."

And yet he has gotten more Primary votes than anyone ever.

"And he is not actively wooing that very large base. "

Nor is he actively shitting on them or lying to them.

" Not with you. You want to sort of slough it off."

Maybe but I need some evidence that would stand in Court of Law for proof.

"And the fact that Hilary Clinton is not being utterly destroyed in the polls is telling. Yes I know, early polling and all. But it should not even be a contest at all. And yet, here we are."

How many times have I said I do not believe in polls one way or the other? Believe them if you will. I won't.

Enjoy your Kosher McMuffin. Do they taste any different than the regular kind? To my life, I would not know if I have eaten anything Kosher or not.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 07:33 AM (WVsWD)

103 What is the story on that minimum wage. Did Cuomo
pull it out of his ass with pen and phone or did the legislature pass it
first?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 07:29 AM (mpXpK)

The second part, he set up a commission of selected people loyal to him and they passed it. Privilege of the governor I guess.

Posted by: Colin at June 12, 2016 07:33 AM (fxoKC)

104 Zip, with updates.

And the Islamic tie was supposedly reported by the FBI

http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=276651

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:33 AM (ptqRm)

105 VIA - that's impossible - the FBI would never cop to that. They would persist in the unknown motive dance longer than this.

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at June 12, 2016 07:36 AM (rrT5s)

106 98 Hillary Clinton worries me. I support the Republican nominee.
Posted by: Early at June 12, 2016 07:31 AM (0+srV)

Yes, I agree. But that's just one side of the story.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:37 AM (p4UlV)

107
Orlando Club shooting.

I blame John Wick. If Hollywood would stop making movies that glorify gun violence, these wannabe movie stars wouldn't be acting out their fantasies this way.

Hollywood should be restricted to making musicals where everyone is happy, dancing and singing.

Posted by: Frankly Potent at June 12, 2016 07:37 AM (7l3Bf)

108 Well, if it's an Islamist, there go the 'hate crime' charges.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 07:37 AM (ZnIt3)

109 And there it goes. Scrubbed from all the MFM news sites.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:30 AM
~~~
This government and the media sicken me.

This is an enormous, horrific event--certainly bigger than Charlie Hebdo. But they will keep it as low key as possible, and tell us we are all islamo-haters. And of course, if they have to finally admit the killer was a muslim terrorist, he will certainly be a lone wolf with absolutely no connection to any organized terrorist group. Because of course, islam is a religion of peace! *spit*

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 07:37 AM (Lsu4e)

110 Yahoo said it was "gun violence". All guns are possessed by the devil as soon as they hit the market, and when you buy one it does a "Shining" thing and turns you into a mass killer

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 07:38 AM (6FqZa)

111 Skin to skin, blood and bone
You're all by yourself but you're not alone
You wanted in and now you're here
Driven by hate, consumed by fear

Let the bodies hit the floor x4

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 12, 2016 07:38 AM (Cq0oW)

112
Interesting statistic:

Of the three main religions, only one promotes murder, enslavement, or other forms of repression of non-adherents to that religion, as a core precept of that religion.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 07:38 AM (4ng05)

113 "They would persist in the unknown motive dance longer than this."

Kinda surprised me as well.

But the reference is in a Tweet, so factual accuracy should be taken with a bucket of salt.

Probably global warming caused a white republican Army Vet suffering from PTSD after bombing an orphanage in Cambodia to loose his shit.*

*For those of you playing our home game, that is sarcasm.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:39 AM (ptqRm)

114 102
Enjoy your Kosher McMuffin. Do they taste any different than the regular kind? To my life, I would not know if I have eaten anything Kosher or not.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 07:33 AM (WVsWD)

Brother, I hope and pray to G-d that she does not win. I'm just stating my very grave concerns about how he is now running his campaign and also about how he will govern if he wins.

My McMuffin is just a Thomas' with melted cheese and scrambled egg.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:39 AM (p4UlV)

115 But they will keep it as low key as possible, and tell us we are all islamo-haters. And of course, if they have to finally admit the killer was a muslim terrorist, he will certainly be a lone wolf with absolutely no connection to any organized terrorist group.

"This act indicts you all!

Oh, wait, he's a member of Group X? Well, that doesn't mean all members of Group X are...."

It's all about who you can point fingers at.

The Left only cares about groups they can use as wedges against larger society.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 12, 2016 07:40 AM (nIGPZ)

116
Finally, the shooting is on Puffington.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:40 AM (p4UlV)

117 112

Interesting statistic:

Of the three main religions, only one promotes murder, enslavement,
or other forms of repression of non-adherents to that religion, as a
core precept of that religion.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 07:38 AM (4ng05)

It is not a real religion, it is a violent cult. I don't consider those wing nuts who use snakes at a church to be a valid religion either.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 07:40 AM (mpXpK)

118 Drudge has changed the page.

Take a look.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:42 AM (ptqRm)

119 Police say 'shooter not from the area'.

The area of Syria, by chance?

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 07:42 AM (ZnIt3)

120 My McMuffin is just a Thomas' with melted cheese and scrambled egg.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:39 AM (p4UlV)

What, no pastrami from Katz'?

The guys I used to share Rangers tickets with were Jewish. One guy always called pastrami 'Jewish bacon'.

If I ever had to give up bacon, I could live with pastrami as a substitute.

Posted by: RickZ at June 12, 2016 07:43 AM (sEdKH)

121 If it's Islamic terrorism related that will change a few things, not many just a few.

Posted by: Skip at June 12, 2016 07:44 AM (d9qXV)

122 Of the three main religions, only one promotes murder, enslavement, or other forms of repression of non-adherents to that religion, as a core precept of that religion.

Nitpick here: "three main religions" begs the question as to what those three are. Hinduism has more adherents than Judaism for instance. Also more political power. And then we get into whether Hinduism even counts as a single religion or a matrix of subreligions, like "Judaeo Christianity".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 07:44 AM (6FqZa)

123 Drudge linking to Daily Mail, who reports witness saying shooter may have had bomb/explosive vest on during shooting.

Must be an NRA tie-in that I'm missing somewhere.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:45 AM (ptqRm)

124 "The area of Syria, by chance?"

Dearborn?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:45 AM (ptqRm)

125 also seeing

"organized and well prepared"

some news outlets like the guardian saying domestic terrorism but... might just be plain old terrorism of the foreign kind

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 12, 2016 07:46 AM (Cq0oW)

126 But the reference is in a Tweet, so factual accuracy should be taken with a bucket of salt.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:39 AM
~~~
Local FBI did say that, but quickly added that they are looking into all possibilities. WZ is accurate.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 07:47 AM (Lsu4e)

127 What, no pastrami from Katz'?

I didn't know it could be Kosher without ground carp.
That's a kind of Menno-nice blood libel.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 12, 2016 07:47 AM (tIja6)

128 Oh look, it's not "gun violence" and it's not "domestic terrorism". Sorry media, you couldn't get your Narrative to stick before 8 AM EST.

Kiss my ass, journ-o-listers; you're lower than the murderer in my sight. At least that scummy killer is honest with his intentions. Where' Peter Thiel?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 07:47 AM (6FqZa)

129 It was looking so nice out the window I was thinking of the old porch rocker this morning. Then I looked at the thermometer. It is already up to 80F. By the time I got settled it would already be hot.

Summer is really here. Besides, I need to do up my second quarter taxes today. They are due this week.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 07:47 AM (mpXpK)

130 If it is a muzzie, watch them downplay the fact.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 07:47 AM (iQIUe)

131

The Curley Effect.

PRESIDENT OBAMA'S WEALTH DESTROYING GOAL: Taking The 'Curley Effect' Nationwide.

Yes, it's a 2012 article, but I hadn't seen it before Glenn linked yesterday. If you missed it as well, read the whole thing.

instapundit

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/236007/

WHAT? CURLEY EFFECT!

https://ncncs.wordpress.com/2013/05/28/what-curley-effect/

This blogger explains it's not only the Cloward–Piven strategy or the Keynesian economics theory... it's much more sinister.

it's all in the plan

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 07:47 AM (qCMvj)

132 "f it's Islamic terrorism related that will change a few things, not many just a few."

I'm trying to figure out exactly what it would change.

Not coming up with much.

Unless this guy turns out to have been admitted into our country as a refugee.

And in that case, I expect the Trump, "Build the wall" to ratchet upwards.

But most liberals will continue to try to explain that Islam is our friend, and CAIR will continue to deplore the dreaded anti-Muslim backlash related to tomorrows terrorist bombing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:48 AM (ptqRm)

133 I've been up since 1 am and will pay for it by being drowsy all day.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 07:48 AM (iQIUe)

134 If it is a muzzie, watch them downplay the fact.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 07:47 AM (iQIUe)

I was surprised they even stated it looked like that it could be islamic terrorism. I suspect the witnesses will talk, so they can't hide it if they wanted to.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 07:48 AM (qCMvj)

135
Trump supposedly wooing Sanders supporters doesn't concern me all that much.

Sanders was as much a product of Democrat disaffection as Trump is a result of Republican disaffection. My guess of a fair share of Sanders support was not necessarily a result of any deep felt love for socialism as it was grasping at something that didn't trigger an auto-retching response.

That's just a hunch, naturally but I think it may have some merit in that much of Trump's support does not derive from any evidence of deeply held conservative views of Trump.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 07:48 AM (4ng05)

136 At a rally Friday night in Richmond, Va., Trump repeatedly called Warren
"Pocahontas," prompting some in the crowd to break out in Indian war
cries.

Weak, milk toast Republican leaders are upset (Chicago Tribune) How can we tame this man....

Posted by: Colin at June 12, 2016 07:49 AM (fxoKC)

137 Police have a name by now I'm sure. Guess it would be considered inflammatory to release. Or they have trouble spelling Mohammed or Mohammad.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 07:49 AM (ZnIt3)

138 Drudge has changed the page.

Take a look.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:42 AM
~~~~~
Good on Drudge for telling it like it is. Should have put a siren up though.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 07:50 AM (Lsu4e)

139
Police say 'shooter not from the area'.

The area of Syria, by chance?
Posted by: Lice Wags

From Islamland over at Disney World?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 12, 2016 07:50 AM (kdS6q)

140

Drudge linking to Daily Mail, who reports witness saying shooter may have had bomb/explosive vest on during shooting.

Must be an NRA tie-in that I'm missing somewhere.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:45 AM (ptqRm)

yeah, they hinted that in the presser

he was wearing something

that's why they bombed through the wall and plowed through with a wallbreaking vehicle - they thought it could get worse

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 07:51 AM (qCMvj)

141 "Guess it would be considered inflammatory to release"

Trying to find a photo of the suspect for release from before he hit puberty maybe.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 07:51 AM (ptqRm)

142 Nitpick here: "three main religions" begs the question as to what those three are. Hinduism has more adherents than Judaism for instance. Also more political power. And then we get into whether Hinduism even counts as a single religion or a matrix of subreligions, like "Judaeo Christianity".
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 07:44 AM (6FqZa)

I should have specified 'monotheistic', religions. My bad.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 07:51 AM (4ng05)

143 Problem with witnesses is they might think they heard or saw almost anything. Fort Hood was done by a single asshole but initial reports said it was a crew of extremists. Some said "a white guy" because asshole was a clean shaven Middle Easterner who might kinda sorta look like a Greek.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 07:51 AM (6FqZa)

144 Without running up to the library to chapter-n-verse "Atlas Shrugged," one of Rand's bumbling thug anti-heroes was named Curley something-sinister. When I heard the Curley Effect meme, I just assumed it was from Rand. What do you know, another actual big-city Dem pol with an Ayn Rand name. Coincidences.

Larry and Moe, at least, are off the hook. Shemp, I'm not so sure.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 12, 2016 07:51 AM (tIja6)

145 Honestly, in a situation like this my first suspicion is someone familiar with the target acting on a grudge. Like workplace shootings, almost always its a disgruntled employee or a domestic dispute.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 12, 2016 07:52 AM (nIGPZ)

146 that's why they bombed through the wall and plowed through with a wallbreaking vehicle - they thought it could get worse

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 07:51 AM
~~~~~
They have also already carried out one controlled detonation.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 07:53 AM (Lsu4e)

147 Trump supposedly wooing Sanders supporters doesn't concern me all that much.

Sanders was as much a product of Democrat disaffection as Trump is a
result of Republican disaffection. My guess of a fair share of Sanders
support was not necessarily a result of any deep felt love for
socialism as it was grasping at something that didn't trigger an
auto-retching response.

That's just a hunch, naturally but I think it may have some merit in
that much of Trump's support does not derive from any evidence of
deeply held conservative views of Trump.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 07:48 AM (4ng05)

It's about as alarming, and unexpected as soup or salad with your entree at Denny's.This is normal political maneuvering, and Trump is doing the right thing in trying to deny Hillary those dissaffected voters.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 12, 2016 07:53 AM (Rki1x)

148 Honestly, in a situation like this my first suspicion is someone familiar with the target acting on a grudge. Like workplace shootings, almost always its a disgruntled employee or a domestic dispute.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 12, 2016 07:52 AM (nIGPZ)

yea, same, but in this case it was the FBI saying it could be - which, if it isn't, big mistake on his part

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 07:54 AM (qCMvj)

149 suspect the witnesses will talk, so they can't hide it if they wanted to.

====

already was all over social media like Facebook

i mean it was a packed gay nightclub ffs probably the most talkative and connected subgroup you could find.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 12, 2016 07:55 AM (Cq0oW)

150 Annnnnddddd....it's Muslims

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 12, 2016 07:55 AM (4ErVI)

151 If I ever had to give up bacon, I could live with pastrami as a substitute.
Posted by: RickZ at June 12, 2016 07:43 AM (sEdKH)

Katz's is about a 10 minute walk but they're closed. Anyway, I think their pastrami is overrated. For my money, the best in NYC is Ben's Best in Rego Park, Queens.

There was a time when delicatessens were as numerous as Starbucks is today. Now, almost extinct, sadly.

I miss a nice baked apple.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:56 AM (p4UlV)

152 Ayn Rand for "Curley" probably had that famous Massachusetts crook in mind. The one the voters elected Mayor while he was serving time for fleecing them.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 07:56 AM (6FqZa)

153 Honestly, in a situation like this my first
suspicion is someone familiar with the target acting on a grudge. Like
workplace shootings, almost always its a disgruntled employee or a
domestic dispute.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 12, 2016 07:52 AM (nIGPZ)

----
yea, same, but in this case it was the FBI saying it could be - which, if it isn't, big mistake on his part

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 07:54 AM
~~~~

Not me. Since 9/11, my first suspicion is always islamic terrorists and I work back from there. May not be politically correct, but it's the truth.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 07:56 AM (Lsu4e)

154 I don't get the antagonism against Christianity, which largely is a stabilizing force in a country or community, does charitable work, stresses family values and good citizenship, whose devoted followers are generally kind, generous and non-violent.

Then you have that cult whose devoted followers turn to violence, intolerance, and did i mention violence? When was the last time you saw an Abdullah Hospital? Yet I see plenty of St. Anne's, or some related charitable entity. Why the hate towards one and the protective guarding of the other? It doesn't make sense.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 12, 2016 07:57 AM (dFi94)

155 Man oh man is this going to fire off a cognitive dissonance the likes of which we haven't seen in a few months.

Maybe saying he's a Christian White Muslim might help.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 12, 2016 07:57 AM (4ErVI)

156
Subheadline:

"Brian Ross Hardest Hit."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:57 AM (p4UlV)

157 i mean it was a packed gay nightclub ffs probably the most talkative and connected subgroup you could find.

I shouldn't laugh but this was funny.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 07:58 AM (6FqZa)

158 If it was a southern redneck type who shot up a gay nightclub Obama would have the teleprompter set up already with speechafying on schedule for prime
time.

*crickets*

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 07:58 AM (ZnIt3)

159 "If it was a southern redneck type who shot up a gay nightclub Obama would have the teleprompter set up already with speechafying on schedule for prime
time. "

Maybe it's just a coincidence that Obama knew not to be in Orlando last night.

Just sayin'

*Does this tinfoil hat make my butt look big?*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:00 AM (ptqRm)

160 We're going to lose. And big.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:22 AM (p4UlV)

You've got to cheer up, J.J.

This election is probably the most basic election we've seen in our lifetime. It's a simple choice for the vast majority of people who don't follow the minutia of politics like we do.

Change vs Status Quo.

This is all anyone is going to see in the end. Trump means change. Hillary is text book definition of Status Quo.

The entire country is in a change mood. When polled, Change comes in at about 78%. If Bernie had got the nomination, it would have been a contest, but with Hillary in, it will be a landslide for Trump.

16 republicans and 2 democrats have thrown everything they could think of against Trump, along with 68 million in negative ads. Going negative on Hillary is just about to begin.

Sure, it's been a tough couple of weeks for Trump. But it's 5 months to the election and no one will remember anything about any of this current flap in November.

When the coordinated, methodical attack of Hillary gets going, democrats are going to go into a panic that will make the current reservations about Trump look insignificant in comparison.

Always bet on change. Change wins every time.

Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2016 08:00 AM (Zs4uk)

161 154 Posted by: grammie winger at June 12, 2016 07:57 AM (dFi94)

The problem with Christianity and even Judaism are individuals who subvert their meaning and kill in its name. And this is the constant drumbeat of leftist apologists and Muslims.

But Islam is a "religion" whose central tenet is the death or subjugation of nonbelievers. Therefore, it is not a religion, but a violent, exterminationist death cult that will capture the world or destroy it trying.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:01 AM (p4UlV)

162 I don't get the antagonism against Christianity, which largely is a stabilizing force in a country or community, does charitable work, stresses family values and good citizenship, whose devoted followers are generally kind, generous and non-violent.

Then you have that cult whose devoted followers turn to violence, intolerance, and did i mention violence? When was the last time you saw an Abdullah Hospital? Yet I see plenty of St. Anne's, or some related charitable entity. Why the hate towards one and the protective guarding of the other? It doesn't make sense.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 12, 2016 07:57 AM (dFi94)

There are too many people raised without this foundation anymore. Too many people who have never even connected with the Judeo-Christian world.

What they are exposed to is very different than you and I from birth.

They make no connections. All religion is evil to many now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 08:01 AM (qCMvj)

163 There was a time when delicatessens were as numerous as Starbucks is today. Now, almost extinct, sadly.

I miss a nice baked apple.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:56 AM
~~~~~
Grew up across the street from Rosenblum's Deli on the corner of 100th and Broadway. My Dad always sent me to get him a pastrami on rye with mayo and cole slaw. They used to just roll their eyes and pack everything up seperately for the silly gentile. LOL Excellent deli, but sadly long gone.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 08:02 AM (Lsu4e)

164 160 Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2016 08:00 AM (Zs4uk)

A) Believe me, I pray to G-d you are right.

B) And what exactly will Mr. Trump do once elected? If, as they say, past history is the best predictor or future performance, then I have concerns. But no one seems to want to discuss that.

Okay.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:02 AM (p4UlV)

165 Odd.

According to CNN, the shooter was engaged by Police OUTSIDE the club.

And he then ran into the Club, where all the shooting then commenced.

http://tinyurl.com/jrgmrnt

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:03 AM (ptqRm)

166 163 Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 08:02 AM (Lsu4e)

Pastrami with MAYO?????!!!!!!! What kind of "goyisher" thing is that?!

It's in Annie Hall.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:04 AM (p4UlV)

167 Always bet on change. Change wins every time.
Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2016 08:00 AM (Zs4uk)

I agree with this with one caveat, the GOP establishment is doing everything in there power to stop this from happening and it is SURREAL. Again, they have a sure environment for a win, and again they are trying desperately to lose.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 08:04 AM (qCMvj)

168

another 9:30 est press conference coming

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 08:04 AM (qCMvj)

169 Drudge says Islamic kills 20 in gay bar

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 12, 2016 08:05 AM (QPdNE)

170 I don't get the antagonism against Christianity, which largely is a stabilizing force in a country or community, does charitable work, stresses family values and good citizenship, whose devoted followers are generally kind, generous and non-violent.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 12, 2016 07:57 AM (dFi94)

This is just another of my alcohol induced insane theories, but my thought is that the modern SJW movement, is fueled by resistance to any idea that morality, or social norms may derive from any higher power. This is because, again I believe, that if these strictures derive from G-d, for example, they are necessarily immutable, which puts people wanting to change them in a sticky situation.

Better that they derive from man, since man being imperfect, is subject to making mistakes.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 08:05 AM (4ng05)

171 According to CNN, the shooter was engaged by Police OUTSIDE the club. And he then ran into the Club,

Worst. Police. Ever.

"Excuse me sir - yes you with the six inch beard and the black turban - do you have a licence for that bomb belt and submachine gun? Oh you say you left it in the loo at the gay club? Okay, but don't take too long about it"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:05 AM (6FqZa)

172 And another tidbit from CNN was that all the local hospitals were placed on lockdown due to an abundance of caution.

Seems to reek of a high level concern for follow-on attacks by unknown individuals.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:06 AM (ptqRm)

173
I shouldn't laugh but this was funny

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how so?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 12, 2016 08:06 AM (Cq0oW)

174 A couple of hours ago, some idiot tweeted why werent Hills and Trump issuing statements. Uh, because they are probably still asleep. lol

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:06 AM (iQIUe)

175 "I agree with this with one caveat, the GOP establishment is doing everything in there power to stop this from happening and it is SURREAL."

Free Wooing!! of the Base. Curtesy of the gopE. Money spent by Trump. $0.00. Priceless.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 08:07 AM (WVsWD)

176
Now, I might just have some bananas and sour cream, a la my late Dad.

*sigh*

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:07 AM (p4UlV)

177 Odd. According to CNN, the shooter was engaged by Police OUTSIDE the club.

The shooting began around 2 a.m., and an officer responded, Mina said. The officer engaged in a shoot out outside the club. The gunman then ran into the club.

Shooting begins
Officer reponds
Officer spots shooter outside club
Gunman runs back into club

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 08:07 AM (ZnIt3)

178 The women I have seen interviewed were trannies.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:07 AM (iQIUe)

179 178 The women I have seen interviewed were trannies.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:07 AM (iQIUe)

Will Caitlyn go give mouth to mouth, or mouth to whatsits?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:08 AM (p4UlV)

180 "Okay, but don't take too long about it"

That's the strange part.

Police had already engaged him with weapons, and shooting was in progress outside when he ran into the Club.

This story is going to change thirty times in the next 24 hours as details surface.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:08 AM (ptqRm)

181 From kraut news: #Orlando: the FBI believes that the attacker had a connection to the Jihad, all hostages freed

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:08 AM (iQIUe)

182 Oh, by "engaged" you meant he was shooting. Sorry. Didn't catch the nuance of that term

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:08 AM (6FqZa)

183

that dailymail.co.uk gets info out so quickly every time

Lots of pictures and tweets shown at that link on drudge

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 08:08 AM (qCMvj)

184 177 Gunman runs back into club
Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 08:07 AM (ZnIt3)

Where was the bouncer?

/s

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:08 AM (p4UlV)

185 Pastrami with MAYO?????!!!!!!! What kind of "goyisher" thing is that?!

It's in Annie Hall.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:04 AM (p4UlV)

Well, homemade Russian (which I frequently make) is mayo plus ketchup and chopped pickles plus some spices. I like Russian on my pastrami, even more so on pastrami Reubens.

Posted by: RickZ at June 12, 2016 08:09 AM (sEdKH)

186 I often think to myself, what if a reporter was trapped in some dark alley at night in a bad neighborhood. Who would he rather see coming towards him? A group of men that had just stepped out of St. Paul's Methodist Church, or a group of men that had just stepped out of the local mosque?

Posted by: grammie winger at June 12, 2016 08:09 AM (dFi94)

187 According to CNN, the shooter was engaged by Police OUTSIDE the club. And he then ran into the Club,

Worst. Police. Ever.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:05 AM
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There was only one cop there when it started. He was in uniform and was on "extra duty"--whatever that means (probably moonlighting.)

He did what he could.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 08:09 AM (Lsu4e)

188 180
This story is going to change thirty times in the next 24 hours as details surface.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:08 AM (ptqRm)

"Shooter Linked to Mossad."

I know that that will be coming.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:09 AM (p4UlV)

189 185 Well, homemade Russian (which I frequently make) is mayo plus ketchup and chopped pickles plus some spices. I like Russian on my pastrami, even more so on pastrami Reubens.
Posted by: RickZ at June 12, 2016 08:09 AM (sEdKH)

I'm not with the Deli Police, but okay. Dispensation granted.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:10 AM (p4UlV)

190 Anyway, I have to run. Getting ready to go to my hate-church. See you all later. Have a wonderful day!

Posted by: grammie winger at June 12, 2016 08:10 AM (dFi94)

191 IrishEi, I know better now; I'd reacted to a sparse comment in a blog thread.

*eyes the barrel*

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:10 AM (6FqZa)

192 Will Caitlyn go give mouth to mouth, or mouth to whatsits?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:08 AM (p4UlV)

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Egads. I'm sure he will issue a statement with photos of him with the sadz.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:10 AM (iQIUe)

193 ""Shooter Linked to Mossad."

I know that that will be coming."

I thought for a moment that I had missed the 9:30 Presser.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:10 AM (ptqRm)

194 Shooter Linked to Mossad."

I know that that will be coming.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:09 AM (p4UlV)

False Flag! duh

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at June 12, 2016 08:11 AM (pioKo)

195 antagonism against Christianity

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Christianity: you sin and you suck. don't do anything stupid cuz it'll just make everything worse for you.

Islam: you rock. kill everyone else.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 12, 2016 08:11 AM (Cq0oW)

196 How long before the mayor of Orlando blames this on the "occupation" of the west bank??

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 08:11 AM (WVsWD)

197 B) And what exactly will Mr. Trump do once elected? If, as they say, past history is the best predictor or future performance, then I have concerns. But no one seems to want to discuss that.

Okay.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:02 AM (p4UlV)

You can kind of say that about almost anyone. And when you look at it from that perspective - past performance - that magnifies the terror that people should feel for a Clinton presidency by about a million. SWAG

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 08:12 AM (4ng05)

198
IrishEi, I know better now; I'd reacted to a sparse comment in a blog thread.

*eyes the barrel*

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:10 AM
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No worries hobo. If anyone should be in the barrel, it's the media and government officials who refuse to tell us the truth.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 08:13 AM (Lsu4e)

199 By the way, back in 80 and 84, Ronald Reagan spoke about freedom, free enterprise and liberty.

--

There isn't an R politician today that can/does or will speak about freedom, free enterprise and liberty the way Reagan did, not even Cruz. Nothing is explained to the masses and I don't think I'll ever really understand why. Reagan was an anomaly in modern politics. Donald Trump doesn't have it in him to articulate, or even know, the difference between a free society and a statist one. It's not how he's approaching this run, imo. But then again, no other R did either. Certainly nowhere near the way Reagan could crystalize it.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun! at June 12, 2016 08:13 AM (+FSld)

200 Islam: you rock. kill everyone else.

Q. 3:110 -
Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:13 AM (6FqZa)

201
I guess this means Ace will stick his head in sometime today unless he is off on some adventure with Bikey McBikeFace.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:13 AM (iQIUe)

202 Where was the bouncer?

/s

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:08 AM (p4UlV)

In the ladies room, touching up his lipstick, and eye shadow.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 12, 2016 08:14 AM (Rki1x)

203 We're going to lose no matter who wins.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 12, 2016 08:14 AM (/H5Dl)

204
#Orlando: 1 policeman was injured, the number of those killed is estimated at 20, the attacker shot on the dance floor

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:15 AM (iQIUe)

205 B) And what exactly will Mr. Trump do once elected? If, as they say, past history is the best predictor or future performance, then I have concerns. But no one seems to want to discuss that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:02 AM (p4UlV)

After the election, we just have to hope that Trump is driven by his ego.

If so, he will look for the easiest, most obvious changes that will make immediate impact on the economy and the federal budget.

Luckily, our federal spending is so bloated and ridiculous that Trump will be able to do some "amazing" things very quickly. Also, in order to make these changes (that any idiot could do in his sleep), Trump will push through basic change in the way the government can deal with federal employees.

Is he going to turn the U.S. into a conservative utopia with each decision driven by strict constitutional guidelines? Fuck no.

But he will make headline-grabbing changes that will show the elected lawmakers and the public that things can change if someone just does it.

Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2016 08:15 AM (Zs4uk)

206 "No worries hobo. If anyone should be in the barrel, it's the media and government officials who refuse to tell us the truth."

That's not what the Barrel is for.

What you seek for them is the Tree of Woe

https://youtu.be/09kuOAr_wkc

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:15 AM (ptqRm)

207 There was only one cop there when it started. He was in uniform and was on "extra duty"--whatever that means (probably moonlighting.)

He did what he could.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 08:09 AM (Lsu4e)

yea, it sounds like he saved people in the end
he called it in right away, and 2 more officers arrived shortly

he was off duty moonlighting

from what I heard, shots fired first, then the cop engaged

and devices were assumed to be inside, etc - and if the cop saw he had a vest on, he engaged

no way I'm going to blame an off duty cop for this

they ended up saving people in the end, it may have been worse if there really are explosive devices

of course, we wait and see

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 08:15 AM (qCMvj)

208 #Orlando: 9 policemen were involved in the shootout with the terrorists, the perpetrators had 1 grenade

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This is kraut news again. I still believe there is only oe shooter.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:16 AM (iQIUe)

209 It was closing time. The bouncer at the gay club was probably busy pulling drunks to their feet, and breaking up a catfight over that cute hunk teasing everyone over by the dancefloor. They're usually less on the lookout for allahu akbar on the outside trying to get in

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:16 AM (6FqZa)

210 That last post from me was in very poor taste. Can someone please remove it?

Also, I apologize to the horde for making it.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 12, 2016 08:17 AM (Rki1x)

211 "the perpetrators had 1 grenade "

Another look at sensible grenade laws?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:18 AM (ptqRm)

212 Anyway the cops were certainly caught flat footed, and I'm glad they did what they could.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:18 AM (6FqZa)

213 Another look at sensible grenade laws?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:18 AM (ptqRm)

The grenade show loophole is just insane.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 08:19 AM (4ng05)

214
Last nite I watched Risen. I'm not religious but I would still rate it a pretty good based on Joe Fiennes acting.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:19 AM (iQIUe)

215 I don't get the antagonism against Christianity, which largely is a stabilizing force in a country or community, does charitable work, stresses family values and good citizenship, whose devoted followers are generally kind, generous and non-violent.

Why the hate towards one and the protective guarding of the other? It doesn't make sense.

The leftists see Mohammedans as allies in their war against Western Civilization and individualism and Christianity as an enemy. It's really that simple. Of course the leftists are going to be surprised when they can't control the Mohammedans.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at June 12, 2016 08:19 AM (5Yee7)

216 Conservatives to gays: 'You know Islam and homosexuality are in conflict, right? Ever see the pictures of homosexual men strung from cranes in Iran? Or reports of homosexual men thrown from rooftops? '

Gays: *crickets*

Hate to have such an event change their perceptions, but they have to face the ugly reality. Now maybe they can use their powerful lobbying power to protect themselves.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 08:19 AM (ZnIt3)

217 "The grenade show loophole is just insane."

I know, right?

Maybe a ban on High Capacity Night Clubs?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:20 AM (ptqRm)

218 If this shooter does turn out to be a recent Muslim immigrant, will they still bother holding an election?

Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2016 08:21 AM (Zs4uk)

219 Come and get em while ya can! Get em before the ban!

Posted by: Hand Grenades for sale at June 12, 2016 08:21 AM (WVsWD)

220 Maybe a ban on High Capacity Night Clubs?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:20 AM (ptqRm)

Thanks. I'll take at least 20 minutes to clean my keyboard now.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 08:21 AM (4ng05)

221 A couple of hours ago, some idiot tweeted why werent Hills and Trump issuing statements.

When did it become expected for people to offer useless platitudes in lieu of actual information? What kind of people need a politician to trot out boilerplate about unknown facts?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 12, 2016 08:22 AM (nIGPZ)

222 remember, keeping muslims out is not who Obama and Hillary and rest of the uniparty are. it is who President Trump is. vote accordingly.

Posted by: x at June 12, 2016 08:22 AM (nFwvY)

223 " 'You know Islam and homosexuality are in conflict, right? "

Months ago, I was reading an interview of a gay Iranian citizen who had moved to Israel.

He said it was the only Nation in the middle east where he was safe from persecution, and threat of death.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:23 AM (ptqRm)

224 Maybe a ban on High Capacity Night Clubs?

I'm pretty sure this night club had lots and lots of 'things that go 'up.''

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 12, 2016 08:23 AM (nIGPZ)

225 from the dailymail piece

A bouncer knocked down a partition between the club area and an area in the back where only workers are allowed. People inside were able to then escape through the back of the club.

to answer the question about what the bouncer was doing - one at least was helping

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 08:24 AM (qCMvj)

226 I quit Twitter several months ago. I'm kind of regretting that decision now.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 12, 2016 08:24 AM (Rki1x)

227 I don't get the antagonism against Christianity, which largely is a stabilizing force

The Left want things unstable.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 12, 2016 08:25 AM (nIGPZ)

228 If you have ever listened to Milo at one of his Most Dangerous Faggot appearances, when asked about his position on Islam, he is pretty straight forward.

To paraphrase: These people scare the fuck out of me. They want to kill me for what I am.

He gets it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:25 AM (ptqRm)

229 Obama at 54%. {sigh} There is no cure for stupidity. Sometimes, I really do wish I was a LIV.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun! at June 12, 2016 08:26 AM (+FSld)

230 Sticky Wicket I'm glad you realized it. I hopes others refrain from the casual sarcasm in light of 20 dead. I've been worried this is going to happen at one of our malls. I will say I'm praying that the attack was not some crazy anti-gay white guy.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 12, 2016 08:26 AM (/H5Dl)

231 Sorry if my comments seem to suggest indifference toward this event. I feel for the victims and their families. But with respect to how this is inevitably going to be spun,

my cynicism relief valve exploded years ago.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 08:26 AM (4ng05)

232 Conservatives to gays: 'You know Islam and homosexuality are in conflict, right? Ever see the pictures of homosexual men strung from cranes in Iran? Or reports of homosexual men thrown from rooftops? '

they know all that. I've said it to various people i know and all i got was a shrug.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 12, 2016 08:26 AM (Cq0oW)

233 Drudge is going all in: Holy Month Horror

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:26 AM (6FqZa)

234 Posted by: Skip at June 12, 2016 05:57 AM (d9qXV)

Skip, there is life after the first comment.

Posted by: creeper at June 12, 2016 08:27 AM (tr+NF)

235
And Isis weighs in:

#Thehunter55
We swear to Allah that we will kill you everywhere O disbeliever...
#Pulse

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Twitter is so good at blocking conservatives but they just cant seem to keep these assholes out.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:28 AM (iQIUe)

236 Yeh...Drudge is all in.

I forgot Bombadon was this month too.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:28 AM (ptqRm)

237 it was a sort of resigned, "thats over there, it's their culture, what can you do" thing.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 12, 2016 08:28 AM (Cq0oW)

238 If this shooter does turn out to be a recent Muslim immigrant, will they still bother holding an election?Posted by: jwest

Thinking forward, what possible 'current event' can benefit Hillary? The economy? It moves too slowly.

Trump has marked his ground clearly. Some might argue coarsely, like an animal with urine.

Anything, everything benefits him now.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 12, 2016 08:29 AM (ZnIt3)

239 I was wondering when we'd see muzzies start targeting gays here.

Because there is nothing foolish at all in importing millions of foreign people who despise gays into a country that celebrates gays, right?

But we can't limit muzzie immigration here, because that's not who we are!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 12, 2016 08:30 AM (BNs9e)

240 I guess Hillary and Obama are walking around muttering "inconceivable!"...

Posted by: x at June 12, 2016 08:30 AM (nFwvY)

241 Just woke up to this.

Praying for the victims.

Posted by: @votermom at June 12, 2016 08:30 AM (7lVbc)

242 I love how they are all starting the script early, "domestic terror incident" being reported on all news sites.

Shape that narrative fuckers.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 12, 2016 08:30 AM (nivMO)

243 We swear to Allah that we will kill you everywhere O disbeliever...

And not "we swear to ha-Shem" or "we swear to Christ". For all the lefty sneering at "organised religion" it just seems to be one religion that has this obsession with killing nonadherents to it

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:30 AM (6FqZa)

244 Lefties to blame the NRA in 3...2...1...

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun! at June 12, 2016 08:31 AM (+FSld)

245 Hillary will propose banning immigrants who are homophobic

because that's who we are

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 12, 2016 08:32 AM (Cq0oW)

246 There was a time when delicatessens were as numerous as Starbucks is today. Now, almost extinct, sadly
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:56 AM (p4UlV)
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Count you blessings. There is only one place in this whole town where they have ever heard of a "knish."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 12, 2016 08:32 AM (EZebt)

247 We're going to lose. And big.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 06:22 AM (p4UlV)

We are, indeed. Does the shooting start then?

Posted by: creeper at June 12, 2016 08:33 AM (tr+NF)

248 I just started reading the headlines and without opening the article about what happened in Orlando, I will guess muslim.

Next step is democrats demanding all Americans be disarmed because they are the source of all violence.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at June 12, 2016 08:33 AM (RfIsX)

249 What you seek for them is the Tree of Woe

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:15 AM
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Yes! LOL

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 08:33 AM (Lsu4e)

250 CNN on Twitter: "Gunman in deadly nightclub shooting not from Orlando area, law enforcement official says."

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at June 12, 2016 08:33 AM (t5zYU)

251 Hillary will propose banning immigrants who are homophobic

because that's who we are
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 12, 2016 08:32 AM (Cq0oW)

If she does that, she'll the shit out of Paul Ryan, who had it all worked out in his wonkish mind who we aren't are.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 08:34 AM (4ng05)

252 CNN on Twitter: "Gunman in deadly nightclub shooting not from Orlando area, law enforcement official says."
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at June 12, 2016 08:33 AM (t5zYU)

So... Asian then.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 08:35 AM (4ng05)

253 CNN on Twitter: "Gunman in deadly nightclub shooting not from Orlando area, law enforcement official says."

So they've ruled out Donald Duck and Pluto.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:35 AM (6FqZa)

254 246 There was a time when delicatessens were as numerous as Starbucks is today. Now, almost extinct, sadly
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:56 AM (p4UlV)

I would support legislation to torture and jail store owners who use the words "delicatessen" and "deli" when they have no resemblance to anything like that.

Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2016 08:35 AM (Zs4uk)

255 250 CNN on Twitter: "Gunman in deadly nightclub shooting not from Orlando area, law enforcement official says."
_______________

Maybe he's a "Minnesota man."

They love killing them some infidels too.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 12, 2016 08:35 AM (BNs9e)

256 Once again, Israeli Embassy calls on State Department and White House to not escalate the situation.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 08:36 AM (4ng05)

257
If I were Trump, I'd be all over this incident as complete vindication of my border/immigration policy as well as to hammer Hilary/SCOAMF/Democrats on law and order, 2nd Amendment and everything else.

I hate to use dead people as props, but in this case it really is direct evidence of what happens when open borders, Muzzy-coddling Democrats are allowed to be in power.

This one is a winner, sad to say.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:36 AM (p4UlV)

258 Breaking: Multiple shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando.

http://fxn.ws/1ZHZWlK
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

Interesting. I just read what I thought was a thorough article on the shooting. It mentioned being investigated as domestic terrorism, not once was the word "gay" used.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 12, 2016 08:37 AM (Dj0WE)

259 Usual caveats about early speculation, but may be Jihadist:

https://twitter.com/daveedgr/status/741972098491518977

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at June 12, 2016 08:37 AM (t5zYU)

260 "So they've ruled out Donald Duck and Pluto."

Minnie Mouse as well.

But, I hear that she is F'n Goofy.

So it could be Mickey lost his shit.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:37 AM (ptqRm)

261
Oddly, some of the biggest supporters of islamic terrorism is the LBGT community.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:37 AM (iQIUe)

262 The coverage the night club shooting gets ought to be a wake up call to LiVs about how the news is shaped to obscure fundamentals, but I think the Kardashian news will be what matters in the end!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 12, 2016 08:38 AM (wYnyS)

263 Oddly, some of the biggest supporters of islamic terrorism is the LBGT community.

Our Left sees only one enemy.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 12, 2016 08:38 AM (nIGPZ)

264 Every time they are trying some islamic terrorist jackass, the lbgt are out there with CAIR and the terrorist's family demonstrating.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:38 AM (iQIUe)

265
For Mr. Trump:

"If Democrats and Liberals were the party of the LGBT community, then why are they pro-Sharia and pro-radical Islam? If you're gay and you vote Hilary, you're stupid!"

With love, from Sefton.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:39 AM (p4UlV)

266 Phrases that will come from the MFM today:

1. Lone wolf
2. Distorted the Religion of Peace
3. Background check loophole
4. Domestic
5. Known as good boy born in [insert state]
6. Asian

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun! at June 12, 2016 08:39 AM (+FSld)

267 "So they've ruled out Donald Duck and Pluto."

Although, I understand he's still pissed about that "not a planet thing" so...

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at June 12, 2016 08:39 AM (pioKo)

268
It's a world of Islam, a world of Marx,
Where Israel is blamed with Mossad killer sharks. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:40 AM (p4UlV)

269 "Once again, Israeli Embassy calls on State Department and White House to not escalate the situation."

And now we are even on keyboards.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:40 AM (ptqRm)

270 Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun! at June 12, 2016 08:39 AM (+FSld)
______________

7. Not a real Muslim.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 12, 2016 08:41 AM (BNs9e)

271 "Although, I understand he's still pissed about that "not a planet thing" so..."

You know, Pluto can be described as "not from the area" . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:41 AM (6FqZa)

272 If the murderer is a muzzie, they will blame Trump.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:41 AM (iQIUe)

273 266 Phrases that will come from the MFM today:

1. Lone wolf
2. Distorted the Religion of Peace
3. Background check loophole
4. Domestic
5. Known as good boy born in [insert state]
6. Asian
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun! at June 12, 2016 08:39 AM (+FSld)

1. should be - "Ties to Israel/Mossad"

/s

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:41 AM (p4UlV)

274 As with 'white hispanic,' this will be a 'Christian Muslim.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 12, 2016 08:42 AM (nIGPZ)

275 272 If the murderer is a muzzie, they will blame Trump.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:41 AM (iQIUe)

If the murderer wore socks, walks on two feet and it's a day ending in "Y," they will blame Trump.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:42 AM (p4UlV)

276 Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun! at June 12, 2016 08:39 AM (+FSld)

6. "White Asian"

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 12, 2016 08:42 AM (wYnyS)

277
#Orlando: Security forces investigate vehicles that were parked at the #PulseNightClub at the time

They also found a "device" on the murderer.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:42 AM (iQIUe)

278 *reads headline about muslim v gay nightclub shooting*

*picks up every lamp in room and tosses them against wall*

Posted by: Hilarity Clinton at June 12, 2016 08:43 AM (ZnIt3)

279 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:39 AM (p4UlV)

The chattering class and the Uniparty (BIRM) would shit themselves. It would be yuuuuuuge!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 12, 2016 08:43 AM (1I+17)

280 Just woke up to this.
Praying for the victims.
Posted by: @votermom at June 12, 2016 08:30 AM (7lVbc)

We have to remember this first and foremost.

So many families were affected by this tragedy today. Very sad.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 08:43 AM (qCMvj)

281 I would support legislation to torture and jail store owners who use the words "delicatessen" and "deli" when they have no resemblance to anything like that.

Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2016 08:35 AM (Zs4uk)

Such owners can't spell: De-lie.

Posted by: RickZ at June 12, 2016 08:43 AM (sEdKH)

282
256 Once again, Israeli Embassy calls on State Department and White House to not escalate the situation.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 12, 2016 08:36 AM (4ng05)
========

Don't forget calling on the Orlando Police for "restraint" and to avoid a "disproportionate" response.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 12, 2016 08:43 AM (EZebt)

283 If you want to remain calm on this Sunday, as best you can anyway, do not go to George Takei's FB page....

Posted by: KWDreaming at June 12, 2016 08:43 AM (vvQF4)

284 Chyron on Fox said "shooter had made previous terroristic threats."

Posted by: BignJames at June 12, 2016 08:43 AM (HtUkt)

285 If the murderer is a muzzie, they will blame Trump.

The journ-o-listas would be stupid to do that, since the gunman went after a club likely not overflowing with Trump's base.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:43 AM (6FqZa)

286 Oddly, some of the biggest supporters of islamic terrorism is the LBGT community.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:37 AM (iQIUe)

and Code Pink (
and Hollywood

it's disgusting

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 08:44 AM (qCMvj)

287 We're going to lose. And big.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

try to hold your water

Posted by: x at June 12, 2016 08:44 AM (nFwvY)

288 I've been watching the "star trek continues" fan series, so I'm living happily in that mirror universe where Takei has nothing to do with the Sulu character.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:44 AM (6FqZa)

289 280 We have to remember this first and foremost.

So many families were affected by this tragedy today. Very sad.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 08:43 AM (qCMvj)

THIS. I apologize for my post at 257. But it really is true. Unlike the left dancing on the graves of the kids at Newtown etc.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:45 AM (p4UlV)

290 "Chyron on Fox said "shooter had made previous terroristic threats.""

Odd way to spell "Shooter was known to Law Enforcement but was not on a watch list"

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:45 AM (ptqRm)

291 7. When was the shooter radicalized?
/s

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 12, 2016 08:46 AM (EZebt)

292 Oddly, some of the biggest supporters of islamic terrorism is the LBGT community.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:37 AM (iQIUe)

Pym Fortuyn was one of those rare breed politicians: Gay and anti-muzzie. We see where that got him.

Posted by: RickZ at June 12, 2016 08:46 AM (sEdKH)

293 "shooter had made previous terroristic threats."

If this was a white loser with a Christian background, pretty sure the men with the white coats would have taken him to the happy home after the second threat. As a precaution.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:46 AM (6FqZa)

294 " 7. When was the shooter radicalized?
/s"

Perhaps Trump pushed him over the edge.

/s

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:47 AM (ptqRm)

295 *quietly affixes 'Trump 2016' bumpersticker to terrorists car while police aren't looking'

Posted by: Hilarity Clinton at June 12, 2016 08:47 AM (ZnIt3)

296 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:45 AM (ptqRm

Surprised it wasn't "previous domestic terroristic threats"!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 12, 2016 08:47 AM (wYnyS)

297 258 Interesting. I just read what I thought was a
thorough article on the shooting. It mentioned being investigated as
domestic terrorism, not once was the word "gay" used.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 12, 2016 08:37 AM (Dj0WE)

They called it a "popular gay nightclub" in that initial report.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 08:47 AM (mpXpK)

298 "Chyron on Fox said "shooter had made previous terroristic threats.""

If you see something, say something.

And it will go in law enforcements low-priority 'to do' box.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 12, 2016 08:48 AM (nIGPZ)

299 Perhaps ~~Trump~~ Milo pushed him over the edge.

Fixed for topicality

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:48 AM (6FqZa)

300 If the murderer is a muzzie, they will blame Trump.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 08:41 AM (iQIUe)

They will blame Trump regardless.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 12, 2016 08:48 AM (Rki1x)

301 There was a time when delicatessens were as numerous as Starbucks is today. Now, almost extinct, sadly
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
----------

Agreed, but fast food emporiums have killed off local diners and take-outs of all types. Sad indeed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2016 08:48 AM (9mTYi)

302 301
Agreed, but fast food emporiums have killed off local diners and take-outs of all types. Sad indeed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2016 08:48 AM (9mTYi)

And as the older generations die off, you lose the foods and things that they loved.

Like baked apple. And freedom.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:50 AM (p4UlV)

303 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 07:18 AM (p4UlV)

J.J., I share your skepticism re: Trump butt would respectfully take issue with you on "degrees of conservatism".

I'm a roaring conservative fiscally and constitutionally but more socially liberal (abortion, birth control, some gay rights, weed) than most conservatives. Does that disqualify me from describing myself as a "conservative"?

I think you're boxing yourself in with this. It isn't as black and white as you would like it to be.

Posted by: creeper at June 12, 2016 08:50 AM (tr+NF)

304 ABC News online headline:

"Florida Club Shooting a 'Domestic Terror Incident,' Approx 20 Dead"

No mention of muzzies.

No mention of gays.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 12, 2016 08:50 AM (BNs9e)

305 @283

Serious question...

Why would anyone intentionally go to George Takais Facebook page?

Posted by: Kreplach at June 12, 2016 08:51 AM (nivMO)

306 8. Shooter had "mental health issues," not related to religion of pieces.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 08:51 AM (Lsu4e)

307 Morning all

So they are saying this is a Muzzie attack in Orlando?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2016 08:52 AM (Ozsfq)

308 creeper, I suspect you're in good company in Moron Town at least on the weed thing.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:52 AM (6FqZa)

309
Trump should also say,

"And I find the chutzpah on Hilary and the media for criticizing me about politicizing the mass shooting to be incredible. I mean, here's a woman whose gross incompetence caused the deaths of Ambassador Stevens and 3 other brave Americans, and she lied to the families and to the American people right in front of their caskets! Incredible!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:52 AM (p4UlV)

310 Shooter had "mental health issues," not related to religion of pieces.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 08:51 AM (Lsu4e)

That is NOT what they are saying on FOX News

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2016 08:52 AM (Ozsfq)

311 The journ-o-listas would be stupid to do that, since the gunman went after a club likely not overflowing with Trump's base.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
---------

You misunderstand. It will be because Trump's rhetoric encouraged the gunman. Somehow.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2016 08:53 AM (9mTYi)

312 306 8. Shooter had "mental health issues," not related to religion of pieces.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 08:51 AM (Lsu4e)

Islam is a mental health issue.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:54 AM (p4UlV)

313 The gunman, whose identity was not immediately released, may have leanings toward radical Islam, FBI Special Agent in Charge Ron Harper said when asked whether the suspect had ties to Jihadist terror groups.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2016 08:54 AM (Ozsfq)

314 Agreed, but fast food emporiums have killed off local diners and take-outs of all types. Sad indeed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2016 08:48 AM (9mTYi

There is a bit of irony in that. Mickey D's and the like became popular as America hit the road in the '50s. Travelers were tired of the food fare, and its uneven state of preparation, so longed for something that would be standard while travelling. Bad independent food joints helped create the very monster they now decry.

Posted by: RickZ at June 12, 2016 08:54 AM (sEdKH)

315 "Why would anyone intentionally go to George Takais Facebook page?"

Self flagellation?

Posted by: Hand Grenades for sale at June 12, 2016 08:54 AM (WVsWD)

316 305, morbid curiosity.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at June 12, 2016 08:54 AM (WlQGZ)

317 Posted by: BurtTC at June 12, 2016 08:37 AM (Dj0WE)

They called it a "popular gay nightclub" in that initial report.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2016 08:47 AM (mpXpK)

The piece I read was from AP. Calls it "crowded Florida nightclub." The word "gay" is nowhere in the article.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 12, 2016 08:54 AM (Dj0WE)

318 J.J., are you okay? Sounds like it's getting to you.

Posted by: creeper at June 12, 2016 08:55 AM (tr+NF)

319 Islam is a mental health issue.

Oh come on, perfectly normal people think the sky is supported by invisible pillars and that the sun sets in a puddle of dirty water. It's absolutely not the fever dream of some heatstroked horse trader during a seizure. Also I keel you

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:56 AM (6FqZa)

320 /off splodey sock

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 08:56 AM (WVsWD)

321 You misunderstand. It will be because Trump's rhetoric encouraged the gunman. Somehow.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2016 08:53 AM (9mTYi)
_________________

Yes, by calling for a ban on muzzie immigration, the evil and raaaaacist Trump hurt the feelz of the normally gay-loving muzzie killer.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 12, 2016 08:56 AM (BNs9e)

322 nood book

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 12, 2016 08:57 AM (+pz/4)

323 303 I think you're boxing yourself in with this. It isn't as black and white as you would like it to be.
Posted by: creeper at June 12, 2016 08:50 AM (tr+NF)

Have you looked at Mr. Trump's stance on trade? It's positively Hooveresque.

My belief is so-called "social issues" are in fact issues of morality. And it's not about whether or not I want to control what someone does, but how those who drive those issues seek to use them in order to reshape our society and nation in ways that are destructive politically.

Not black and white, but very deep shades of light and dark to be sure.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:57 AM (p4UlV)

324 *frantically searches YouTube for video to blame muslim v gay killing on*

Posted by: Hilarity Clinton at June 12, 2016 08:57 AM (ZnIt3)

325 This will be characterized as generic religious extremism issuing in homophobic violence, at best.

And a call for more gun control, for certain.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 12, 2016 08:57 AM (lutOX)

326 It's absolutely not the fever dream of some heatstroked horse trader during a seizure. Also I keel you
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 08:56 AM (6FqZa)

That's heatstroked PEDOPHILE horse trader.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 12, 2016 08:57 AM (Dj0WE)

327 "That is NOT what they are saying on FOX News"
It was Moron sarcasm, not actual news quote.

Religion of Pieces was a good tip-off.

G'morning, Doc.

Hell of a day already, isn't it?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:57 AM (ptqRm)

328 Bad time for a new book thread?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2016 08:57 AM (Ozsfq)

329 Shooter had "mental health issues," not related to religion of pieces.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 08:51 AM (Lsu4e)

That is NOT what they are saying on FOX News

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2016 08:52 AM
~~~~~

I know. I was adding #8 to the list at comment #266.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 08:58 AM (Lsu4e)

330 It was a gay muslim who felt oppressed by christians that told him he couldn't be both which lead to his ptsd. This resulted in his snapping after being turned down for the last call dance.

Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at June 12, 2016 08:58 AM (kHJ3a)

331 318 J.J., are you okay? Sounds like it's getting to you.
Posted by: creeper at June 12, 2016 08:55 AM (tr+NF)

Everything's getting to me. Not least of which I'm too old to rock and roll and too young to die. And I'd prefer that the latter happen before the country goes under.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:58 AM (p4UlV)

332 G'morning, Doc.

Hell of a day already, isn't it?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 08:57 AM (ptqRm)

Par for the course

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2016 08:58 AM (Ozsfq)

333 Ahmed was a good boy. He misunderstood Islam, but he was turning his life around. He had recently enrolled in cosmetology school.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 12, 2016 08:59 AM (ZEzaq)

334 Not least of which I'm too old to rock and roll and too young to die. And I'd prefer that the latter happen before the country goes under.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:58 AM (p4UlV)

Your never to old to rock and roll. That is why G-D made the 50s station

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2016 08:59 AM (Ozsfq)

335 Gay club having a latino pride party?

Talk about dividing America

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2016 09:00 AM (Ozsfq)

336 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 12, 2016 08:58 AM (p4UlV)

Oh, I hear you.

Quit wishing to die before the SHTF, though. In the end, what happens to the country is immaterial. Your sole obligation is to survive. Please work on that.

Posted by: creeper at June 12, 2016 09:02 AM (tr+NF)

337 MORE: Orlando shooter ID'd as Omar Mateen, U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie, FL cbsn.ws/1PU8x4x

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at June 12, 2016 09:03 AM (t5zYU)

338 "And I'd prefer that the latter happen before the country goes under."

If I may. You are too Good for that. Keep fighting the Good Fight. When you face your Maker, HE will know.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 12, 2016 09:03 AM (WVsWD)

339 Bad independent food joints helped create the very monster they now decry.
Posted by: RickZ
-----------

Well, convenience, drive-throughs, consistent menus, low-prices, were all contributors.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2016 09:04 AM (9mTYi)

340 333 Ahmed was a good boy. He misunderstood Islam, but he was turning his life around. He had recently enrolled in cosmetology school.
__________

And he would have become a great Muslim-American, in the fine tradition of all those other wonderful Muslim-Americans who have contributed so much to the greatness of America since its founding (in which Muslims also played a key role), and without whom America would not be the powerful and successful nation that it is. But then little Ahmed heard the hateful and raaaaacist words of Donald Trump, and all the hope went out of him, and he changed overnight . . . .

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 12, 2016 09:05 AM (BNs9e)

341 @337

American citizen?

For how long?

I call bullshit on the whole "Domestic Terrorism" angle that's being promulgated just a few short hours after the attack.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 12, 2016 09:05 AM (nivMO)

342 Prediction: Gun sales (and prices) experience new spike next week.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2016 09:06 AM (9mTYi)

343 Omar Mir Seddique Mateen in Port St Lucie is a registered Democrat:
http://voters.findthedata.com/d/b/Omar-Mateen

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 09:08 AM (6FqZa)

344 St Lucie county I mean.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 09:08 AM (6FqZa)

345 If that's the guy, he was born in that same county, so is a natural born citizen

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 12, 2016 09:09 AM (6FqZa)

346 "Omar Mir Seddique Mateen in Port St Lucie is a registered Democrat:
http://voters.findthedata.com/d/b/Omar-Mateen"

Still doesn't prove that he's a US Citizen.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 09:09 AM (ptqRm)

347 American citizen?

For how long?

I call bullshit on the whole "Domestic Terrorism" angle that's being promulgated just a few short hours after the attack.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 12, 2016 09:05 AM
~~~~~

Drudge link says that they can't confirm citizenship.

It will be years before we get any semblance of the truth for any of these islamic terrorist attacks. Who the hell knows or cares what country he's from anyway? islam does not recognize national sovereignty.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 09:11 AM (Lsu4e)

348 @347

My issue is with the MSM already trying to shape the narrative mere hours after the attack.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 12, 2016 09:12 AM (nivMO)

349
"Omar Mir Seddique Mateen in Port St Lucie is a registered Democrat:

Still doesn't prove that he's a US Citizen.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 09:09 AM
~~~~~
Hah! So true.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 09:13 AM (Lsu4e)

350 Calling Mateen a U.S. citizen born to Afghan parents.

Color me shocked!

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 09:17 AM (Lsu4e)

351 "Hah! So true. "

Ten bucks says he still votes in the upcoming General Election too.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2016 09:17 AM (ptqRm)

352 Part of the Boston Bombers team was also an 'American citizen'. Means nothing.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 12, 2016 09:18 AM (/H5Dl)

353 AccuWeather.com is saying that the high for today will be 84, and the current temperature is 86. I blame global warming.

Posted by: rickl at June 12, 2016 09:19 AM (sdi6R)

354 Calling Mateen a U.S. citizen born to Afghan parents

Where are y'all seeing this?

Posted by: no good deed at June 12, 2016 09:21 AM (9nt94)

355 Twitter and foreign press is running circles around the Palace Guard Pravda here.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Bostonian at June 12, 2016 09:22 AM (r6ujM)

356 News conference now moved to 10:15AM.

MSNBC is doing its best, as usual: We don't know what the "gunman's" motive was, or where he got his weapons.

See, he's a gunman, not a terrorist. And the problem is guns. GUNS!!!1!!

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 09:28 AM (Lsu4e)

357 Where are y'all seeing this?

Posted by: no good deed at June 12, 2016 09:21 AM

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/06/12/orlando-nightclub-shooting/

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 09:29 AM (Lsu4e)

358 NOOD Book thread

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 09:31 AM (iQIUe)

359

omar

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 12, 2016 09:32 AM (qCMvj)

360 SnapChat video with sounds of shooting. Bastard wasted no time.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jkyuwl8

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2016 09:34 AM (Lsu4e)

361
So, Mateen's "story" will be that he is mentally ill and was provoked by Trump.

Remember - you read it here first, folks!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 09:34 AM (iQIUe)

362 Man who knew the Amish had decided to Reconquista Orlando?

We live in strange times.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 12, 2016 09:37 AM (g8Hfr)

363
It's:

"Omar Mir Seddique Mateen in Port St Lucie and a Hillary Clinton supporter..."

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 09:38 AM (iQIUe)

364 http://tinyurl.com/j9tlwmv

Heavy.Com Omar Mateen 5 fast facts

Posted by: sven10077 at June 12, 2016 09:41 AM (g8Hfr)

365 Well Bruce with a wang,

understand Grammy H and Barney supporters have been told violence is a-okay for them...

now I am not thrilled he took out his Trump frustrations on a gay Latin nightclub...but you know the Amish....

Posted by: sven10077 at June 12, 2016 09:42 AM (g8Hfr)

366 Ben Carson on F&F making a great deal of sense.

Posted by: Czar Peter at June 12, 2016 09:44 AM (JGNQ+)

367 HONESTLY, COULD LAW ENFORCEMENT AT ANY LEVEL BE MORE FUCKING WORTHLESS?

Posted by: TVOC at June 12, 2016 09:58 AM (XzRw1)

368 Does anyone think if this shooter was a registered republican that fact would be getting a little air time right now?

Fuck.

Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2016 10:05 AM (Zs4uk)

369 367 Posted by: TVOC at June 12, 2016 09:58 AM (XzRw1)

Law Enforcement did their job ably.

They killed the guy, they can't save people and in fact SCotUS has said implicitly that LE has no duty or mandate to "save people."

The cops are crime scene janitors.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 12, 2016 10:06 AM (g8Hfr)

370
Now I got some pali guy all pissed off at me for insulting islam and clinton. LOL

But my trolling ISIS has produced nothing - no death threats, nada!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 10:11 AM (iQIUe)

371
Looks like twitter suspended the isis account. That was fast. Usually it takes days. They have not suspended the account that asked for people to assassinate Trump.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 12, 2016 10:13 AM (iQIUe)

372 50 dead, 53 wounded?

Fuck.

Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2016 10:20 AM (Zs4uk)

373 How inconvenient that shooting is for Obastard and Clinton. The semantic gymnastics should be a new low in dissembling.

Posted by: creeper at June 12, 2016 10:20 AM (ijbjP)

374 372
50 dead, 53 wounded?

Fuck.

Posted by: jwest at June 12, 2016 10:20 AM (Zs4uk)
Are you serious????

Posted by: creeper at June 12, 2016 10:21 AM (ijbjP)

375 374 Posted by: creeper at June 12, 2016 10:21 AM (ijbjP)

Very much so, I will be shocked if it is not 65 dead when the dust settles.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 12, 2016 10:22 AM (g8Hfr)

376 Excuse me for a moment. I think I'm going to be sick.

Posted by: creeper at June 12, 2016 10:24 AM (ijbjP)

377 376 Posted by: creeper at June 12, 2016 10:24 AM (ijbjP)

Hey the great news is Obama is importing them at a rate of 300 a pop.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 12, 2016 10:28 AM (g8Hfr)

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