Wednesday Morning Open Thread (6/15/16) [Mis. Hum.]

[I think MH speared a polar bear....(CBD)]

And here is Milo Yiannopoulos at U.C. San Diego, being his usual inflammatory self. But he says something interesting here...."What I think is a pity is the way the Left has domesticated homosexuals..."

And from commenter "Lauren," speaking of the horror at Disney World.

This I'm a perfect parent and anyone who loses a child tragically is an idiot bullshit has got to fucking stop.

And from commenter "CrustyB:"

I read that at Disney Florida they're searching for a 2-year old who was dragged away by a gator. The press is speculating that it's a white, conservative, evangelical, AR-15 wielding alligator.

And here is convincing evidence that the Orlando terrorist did it because he was a repressed gay Republican....
"I'm the shooter. It's me': Gunman called local TV station during attack, station says

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:00 AM

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1 Good morning, everyone.

Posted by: bluebell at June 15, 2016 07:56 AM (805dc)

2 bite me

Posted by: scrood at June 15, 2016 07:57 AM (3b9U4)

3 No thanks.

Posted by: bluebell at June 15, 2016 07:57 AM (805dc)

4 I guess they left us here to frolic and gambol.

Posted by: bluebell at June 15, 2016 07:59 AM (805dc)

5 Maybe I'll write an opera.

Posted by: bluebell at June 15, 2016 07:59 AM (805dc)

6 And here is Milo Yiannopoulos at U.C. San Diego, being his usual inflammatory self. But he says something interesting here...."What I think is a pity is the way the Left has domesticated homosexuals..."

Ouch.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:00 AM (wXHOL)

7 Or perhaps a movie review.

Posted by: bluebell at June 15, 2016 08:00 AM (805dc)

8 Stay away from Orlando

Posted by: CSMBigBird at June 15, 2016 08:00 AM (jsWA8)

9 What fresh hell will this new day bring? On the plus side. Pay day = Purchases of ammo and 30RD mags. These babies are going to be worth a fortune on the black market after the Dems outlaw them.

Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 08:00 AM (O7MnT)

10 I never get quoted in posts, in spite of my superior intellect.

Yeah. It ain't fair.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 15, 2016 08:02 AM (ZEzaq)

11 Which Impressionist painted that?

Posted by: I give it a E for effort at June 15, 2016 08:02 AM (mF+XC)

12 Orlando : Gunman called . . . while he was waiting for hostage negotiators to deliver pizza.

Because the first rule of hostage negotiations is you have to establish a little rapport, trust between equals, so that a deal can be worked out for mutal benefit.

Posted by: Charly Dont Surf at June 15, 2016 08:04 AM (UhIjG)

13 This gator is not representative of the gator community. You can tell the bad gators. They prey facing Mecca.

Posted by: the gator at June 15, 2016 08:04 AM (ZnIt3)

14 'I'm the shooter. It's me': Gunman called local TV station during attack, station says

"I did it for ISIS," the caller said, according to Gentili, "I did it for the Islamic State."

Barry - See, no connection to Islam or ISIS.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 15, 2016 08:05 AM (GILMl)

15 >>>>>And here is convincing evidence that the Orlando terrorist did it because he was a repressed gay Republican....
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.And Trump made him do it because of all the hate. Yep the left has lost the bubble on this one and they are flailing all over the place.

I admit it is nice to see obama more pi$$ed off at Trump than the terrorists though, should make for some very nice commercials during the General.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 15, 2016 08:06 AM (iONHu)

16 Three hours to kill the wounded, hunt those hiding, and order pizza.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:06 AM (nIGPZ)

17

{ ( | ) ( | ) }
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 08:06 AM (kdS6q)

18 One of my Kids almost died in a pond, swimming, because Dad wasn't paying attention. Dad was oblivious to what was happening.

It also could have been classified as "shit happens".

It won't happen again.

That's all I have to say on this subject

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. at June 15, 2016 08:06 AM (WVsWD)

19 Did anyone try to negotiate with that Florida gator?

Posted by: Charly Dont Surf at June 15, 2016 08:06 AM (UhIjG)

20 It's hump day.

Or are we not allowed to say that any more because it contributes to the climate of h8 and rape culture.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 15, 2016 08:07 AM (KUaJL)

21 I am really really shocked about the gator in Disney story.
That poor little boy.
And I can not imagine what the parents are going through. You bring your toddler to the happiest place on earth and this happens.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:07 AM (7lVbc)

22 Three hours to kill the wounded, hunt those hiding, and order pizza.

To be fair, he ordered deep dish.
They take longer

Posted by: Bruce at June 15, 2016 08:07 AM (8ikIW)

23 I just realized - the reason I need an AR15 with high capacity magazines is to shoot all the liberals that are coming to get it...

Posted by: Dave at June 15, 2016 08:09 AM (kH/If)

24 This Disney story makes me ill. I have a grandson who went from two to three on Monday. We were all at a T-ball game last night. As hard as we tried, we could not keep him corralled all night ling. Do you know how squirmy a two year old can be? And fast. They can be there one minute and POOF two seconds later they are under the bleachers. For the love of God, back off from parent-shaming. Bad things happen. They just happen. There but for the grace of God go we all.

My two cents.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:09 AM (dFi94)

25 I was watching the late night news last night.

The Texas Hostage Taker being shot was mentioned.

His name was not.

The Arabic note was not.

Just an un-named gunman.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 08:09 AM (ptqRm)

26 That's all I have to say on this subject

Posted by: Tim

Yeah, one of those oh fu(k moments you replay in your head.

Posted by: Bruce at June 15, 2016 08:09 AM (8ikIW)

27 I just hope for Orlando's sake this is number 3 in horrible things (one was the Voice singer getting murdered at a concert) and done.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:09 AM (7lVbc)

28 "Saying 'radical Islam' makes no difference," says the guy who insists on calling ISIS, ISIL.

Because *that* does make a difference.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 15, 2016 08:10 AM (EZebt)

29 It's Russia

http://tinyurl.com/jqggtyo

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 08:10 AM (ptqRm)

30 "I did it for ISIS," the caller said, according to Gentili, "I did it for the Islamic State."

Barry - See, no connection to Islam or ISIS.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 15, 2016 08:05 AM (GILMl)

We are seeing right now the question most of us with a conservative bent discussed in college: How would the left deal with a regime like the Nazi's in modern times?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 15, 2016 08:11 AM (3ZoRf)

31 "I did it for ISIS," the caller said, according to Gentili, "I did it for the Islamic State."

Yeah, well who are you going to believe? Some confused self-hating killer conservative homosexual or the President of the United States?

Posted by: major major major major at June 15, 2016 08:11 AM (YcKif)

32 Awww shit. See ya from the barrel.

Posted by: RedDish at June 15, 2016 08:11 AM (5eXg1)

33
"What I think is a pity is the way the Left has domesticated homosexuals..."

Once, vast herds of homosexuals thundered free across the prairie, as far as the eye could see. But, that was in the time of the Red Man, before the White Man and his Iron Horse arrived.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 08:11 AM (kdS6q)

34 14 'I'm the shooter. It's me': Gunman called local TV station during attack, station says

"I did it for ISIS," the caller said, according to Gentili, "I did it for the Islamic State."

Any links to news stations?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:11 AM (wXHOL)

35 Oh dear, RedDish. I think I see why you were willowed.

Posted by: bluebell at June 15, 2016 08:12 AM (805dc)

36 We are seeing right now the question most of us with a conservative bent discussed in college: How would the left deal with a regime like the Nazi's in modern times?

Like they did before Adolf attacked Uncle Joe. They wouldn't care.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:12 AM (nIGPZ)

37
Posted by: RedDish

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBgpErFOSvk

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 08:13 AM (kdS6q)

38 "23 I just realized - the reason I need an AR15 with high capacity magazines is to shoot all the liberals that are coming to get it..."

And they will come--no question about it. After the SSM switcheroo and the bathroon wars, anyone who thinks the Left can be reasoned with is just deluded.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 15, 2016 08:13 AM (ZEzaq)

39 I know salties - the crocs they have is Australia - can be effing fast in grabbing prey even on land . And they are vicious beasts.
Are gators the same way?

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:14 AM (7lVbc)

40 14
Barry - See, no connection to Islam or ISIS.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 15, 2016 08:05 AM (GILMl)

These are not the Islamists you're looking for.

Posted by: King Barky at June 15, 2016 08:14 AM (sdi6R)

41 Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness overrated. Liberty control is now a matter of Homeland Security.

Bow to me, you pathetic Proles.

Posted by: Jeh Johnson, Minister of Safety Dances at June 15, 2016 08:14 AM (s7Fh9)

42 Willowed, just reportin' in that the song "Everglades" (If the skeeters don't get him, the gators will) was by Harlan Howard, who also wrote Tiger by The Tail and I Fall to Pieces. There's a theme. Also? From Detroit.

That song's a southern-gothic novella. Right up there with "El Paso" in my book. And not a single line ripped off from Randy Caliornia.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 15, 2016 08:14 AM (tIja6)

43 "Awww shit. See ya from the barrel."

One thing about the Barrel is that the gators are scared to go in.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 15, 2016 08:14 AM (noWW6)

44 www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBgpErFOSvk
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 08:13 AM (kdS6q)

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That's hilarious.

Posted by: bluebell at June 15, 2016 08:14 AM (805dc)

45 Florida has a lot of ponds, a lot of lagoons, a lot of gators.

Anyway I was in North Carolina a couple years ago. Kinda lost, middle of the night, raining, pitch black. The gps says 'turn right 100 feet'. Yeah, I didn't. A lagoon, ten feet deep, probably, was 100 feet ahead.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 15, 2016 08:15 AM (ZnIt3)

46 Ya know? After almost eight years one would think that people would catch on to Obama's sleight of hand magic tricks.

Posted by: Charly Dont Surf at June 15, 2016 08:15 AM (UhIjG)

47 Years ago my folks had a condo on a golf course in a brand new community in Florida. It was brand new in that the entire town was cut out of the swamp like most of Disney.

The whole place was criss crossed with canals and little ponds which were dug to drain the land. They also served as a kind of super highway for gators.

Their place backed up to the 9th green which was bordered by a canal and a pond. More than once my mom and her dogs were stalked by gators during their morning walk around the pond.

pass

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2016 08:16 AM (/tuJf)

48 Some of us can get willowed without a barrel visit. Sayin.

The shooter was Jeh Johnson's employee. No wonder he's upset.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 15, 2016 08:16 AM (tIja6)

49 Florida has a lot of ponds, a lot of lagoons, a lot of gators.

It's flat, hot, and crowded. Everything I hate.

Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 08:16 AM (O7MnT)

50 On a happier note, granddaughter was awarded the game ball at T-ball last night. She plays a wicked first base. Twenty years from now I expect her to be playing for the Cubs. They will have gender-blendered by then, I'm sure.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:17 AM (dFi94)

51 We are seeing right now the question most of us with a conservative bent discussed in college: How would the left deal with a regime like the Nazi's in modern times?

Seig heil?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:17 AM (wXHOL)

52 Harlan Howard, who also wrote Tiger by The Tail and I Fall to Pieces. There's a theme. Also? From Detroit.

Great songwriter. My HH favorite is "Pick Me Up On Your Way Down," The Charlie Walker classic.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 15, 2016 08:17 AM (WlGX+)

53 Can you catch Zika from a Gator bite?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 08:17 AM (ptqRm)

54 If they had shot the gator before it ate the poor kid, would there be facebook memes denouncing that outrage like there was for the fucking gorilla in Cincinnati? Why no #Justice4Allie hashtags?

Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 08:18 AM (7HtZB)

55 Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 08:16 AM (O7MnT)

With that description I don't think you'd like Houston much either.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 15, 2016 08:18 AM (GDulk)

56 Used to be, you could know-it-all the argument by stating, only alligators are North American; there are no crocodiles in North America.

The salt-water crocodile has been successfully introduced to the Keys.
Whoopee.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 15, 2016 08:18 AM (tIja6)

57
The shooter was Jeh Johnson's employee.

That's a beautiful point. He's so paranoid about mainstream Americans that he can't see a security risk under his own nose.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:19 AM (nIGPZ)

58 21 I am really really shocked about the gator in Disney story.
That poor little boy.
And I can not imagine what the parents are going through. You bring your toddler to the happiest place on earth and this happens.
Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:07 AM (7lVbc)

Yes, it's awful. And telling parents who are already in agony that it happened because they were terrible parents is incredibly cruel.

You don't have to be a parent to realize how quickly bad stuff can happen. Anybody who has babysat toddlers for a few hours knows that all you have to do is look away for a few seconds and there they are picking up a glass shard from the sidewalk or trying to stick a fork in an outlet or something.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 08:20 AM (P8951)

59 The Orlando Sentinel story days the dad tried to wrest the kid back from the gator.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:20 AM (7lVbc)

60 The salt-water crocodile has been successfully introduced to the Keys.

Next, we try to introduce the funnel web spider!

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 15, 2016 08:21 AM (bZ7mE)

61 The final day of getting the new roof on Fortress VIA.

And it is raining.....
unexpectedly.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 08:21 AM (ptqRm)

62 >>Twenty years from now I expect her to be playing for the Cubs. They will have gender-blendered by then, I'm sure.

Maybe she can be a part of the first Cubs team to win the Series since 1908.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2016 08:21 AM (/tuJf)

63
Awaiting the inevitable "man-made global warming has made alligators more aggressive" commrnts from Zealots of the Church of AGW.

Back in the early 80s my sister and I were touring the sculpture garden near Myrtle Beach, SC and we saw what I called a "realistic bronze statue of an alligator" at one point. It was realistic, but it wasn't bronze. It was sunning itself.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 15, 2016 08:21 AM (fOgSR)

64 The shooter was Jeh Johnson's employee.

That's a beautiful point. He's so paranoid about ~~mainstream~~ white Americans that he can't see a security risk under his own nose.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:22 AM (wXHOL)

65 #49 It's flat, hot, and crowded. Everything I hate.

Yep. Spent a ton of time in FL for work and I've grown to truly detest it.

My company just hired a guy in Miami and I was assigned to train him. The Veep planned to have me fly down there to train him, and made the offer sound like it was a teat for me to go to Florida.

I told him I appreciated the thought but I'd rather fly the new guy to me in western NY for training. So that's what we did.

(The trainee was a recent college grad, of Columbian descent but as American as anyone. Very polite, intelligent and well spoken young guy. Raised right, you could tell. The week I spent with him gave me some hope for our recent college grads.)

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 15, 2016 08:22 AM (WlGX+)

66 teat = uh, TREAT

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 15, 2016 08:22 AM (WlGX+)

67 So ... is .357 sufficient to shoot a gator in the head, or do you need to go .44 ?

I gotta' admit, people always thought I was a hard ass when it came to my small kids in public. Wife and I always took one kid each, had a hand ON toddlers or direct eye contact once they got older. Bad things happened when they tried to get away. They only pulled that shit once or twice each.

Kids are 16 and 12 now. I still keep eye contact in public. Paranoid.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 15, 2016 08:23 AM (/yNjy)

68
Christopher Walken age 10.

http://www.realclearlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2031/06/GettyImages-163314685-1137x1600.jpg

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 08:23 AM (pC96u)

69 The salt-water crocodile has been successfully introduced to the Keys.

Next, we try to introduce the funnel web spider!

Can we get some dingoes and 'roos?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:23 AM (wXHOL)

70 Maybe she can be a part of the first Cubs team to win the Series since 1908.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2016 08:21 AM (/tuJ==================================================

As much as I'd love the Cubs to win the WS , I never want to see women in baseball. But I bet baseball will be the first to go, since it's largely non-contact.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:24 AM (dFi94)

71 I don't watch broadcast news. But I came home last evening, and my wife was watching one of the MSN networks. I literally saw no more than 30 seconds of news, but it was enough to convince me that this is no ordinary "getting fucked by our politicians" time.

I saw Ryan, Corker and McConnell supporting the presumptive nominee as no other leaders of a party can. By bashing the shit out of him.

Ryan, is actually calling for MORE muzzie invasion.

I have been following Brexit because of what I feel are parallels - uncanny parallels - between what is happening beneath the surface of that event, with what Trump has stirred up and exposed that is happening below the surface here.

This is an agenda, I'm convinced of it. The fucking jackasses like Ryan, Corker and McConnell, are following instructions.

In Sweden and Germany, you've had politicians publicly stating that they want inbreeding within their societies. Inbreeding to dilute indiginous whites.

Why the fuck does Ryan want MORE muzzie immigration? Right after this horrific terrorist event? Why the hell would he state that now?

We are part of an experiment. A global social experiment and our leaders are poking us with sticks through the bars of our cages, before they inject us with the serum of their experimental plan.

Ryan, Corker, and McConnell have just guaranteed that after Trump, I will never vote for another person with an R after their name. I will literally vote against the Republican party from here on. Either we get a new party, or I will become an activist against Republicans.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 08:24 AM (4ng05)

72
Late Show host Stephen Colbert shocked TV audiences with a comic sketch about Donald Trump's reaction to the Orlando nightclub massacre which ended with him drawing a swastika on a chalkboard.

He wrote the words Muslim, Bad Thing, Not Smart, Radical Islam, Something Going On, Inconceivable, Obama, Trump in a clockwise configuration on the chalkboard. Then after a short monologue he connected several of the words to create a swastika shape.

[video]

https://tinyurl.com/jzwqe9d

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 08:24 AM (kdS6q)

73 So ... is .357 sufficient to shoot a gator in the head, or do you need to go .44 ?

Troy Landry does it with a .22 lr or mag.
Me? Preferably a .577 T-Rex.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:24 AM (wXHOL)

74 "The salt-water crocodile has been successfully introduced to the Keys." Really? Is that to eat the Cobras? Another reason to continue avoiding Florida.

...maybe introduce them into the barrel. Kinda cramped down here.

Posted by: RedDish at June 15, 2016 08:25 AM (5eXg1)

75 Posted by: ScoggDog at June 15, 2016 08:23 AM (/yNjy)
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My parents kept my sister on a leash. True story.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:25 AM (dFi94)

76 Gator? I want a grenade.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:25 AM (7lVbc)

77 Can we get some dingoes and 'roos?

Nah. Why would we want them? Any suitably poisonous reptiles would be considered, though.

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 15, 2016 08:25 AM (bZ7mE)

78
'I'm the shooter. It's me': Gunman called local TV station during attack, station says

"I did it for ISIS," the caller said, according to Gentili, "I did it for the Islamic State."

Any links to news stations?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:11 AM (wXHOL)
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Yeah, but I just closed the tab.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 08:26 AM (pC96u)

79
Once, vast herds of homosexuals thundered free across the prairie, as far as the eye could see.

Aye, the now extinct North American Homobison, fey cousins of the American Bison.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 15, 2016 08:26 AM (fOgSR)

80 "So ... is .357 sufficient to shoot a gator in the head, or do you need to go .44 ? "

Nuke it from Orbit.
It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 08:27 AM (ptqRm)

81 >>As much as I'd love the Cubs to win the WS , I never want to see women in baseball. But I bet baseball will be the first to go, since it's largely non-contact.

Agreed.

And as much as it pains me, I'll be very surprised if the Cubs aren't in the Series this year.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2016 08:27 AM (/tuJf)

82 Can we get some dingoes and 'roos?

Nah. Why would we want them?

In trade for liberals.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:27 AM (wXHOL)

83 I forgot, cool zazzle highly shirt!
I will link to it on my blog

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:28 AM (7lVbc)

84
We are seeing right now the question most of us with a conservative bent discussed in college: How would the left deal with a regime like the Nazi's in modern times?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 15, 2016 08:11 AM (3ZoRf)

They'd join the Nazis.

People don't realize how popular Adolf was among young people, particularly those at universities. Those youthful idealists were the ones who formed the backbone of the SS. That's why I'm always bemused when people talk as if the young have some sort of special wisdom. In fact, young people have shown themselves to be quite susceptible to the lure of totalitarianism.

The faculty also embraced Nazism. Think of all the teaching positions that opened up at German universities once they kicked out the Jews.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 08:28 AM (P8951)

85 Highly= bigly

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:28 AM (7lVbc)

86 Is there some magic in the phrase radical reptilian appetite?

This will not help us with our reptile allies.

Posted by: Fritz at June 15, 2016 08:29 AM (UzPAd)

87 72
Late Show host Stephen Colbert shocked TV audiences with a comic sketch about Donald Trump's reaction to the Orlando nightclub massacre which ended with him drawing a swastika on a chalkboard.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 08:24 AM (kdS6q)

Colbert has a TV audience? Seriously, the Late, Late Show that follows him gets better ratings.

Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 08:29 AM (7HtZB)

88 Why the fuck does Ryan want MORE muzzie immigration?"

Well, a bit early for that, no?

As to the query - unlimited free migration across borders of first world states has been a staple of "educated" thought since the late 70s. Every "model UN", "Student council", and more have preached that with a fervor unmatched since Carrie Nation. Our Mandarin class has been stewing in it for nigh on half a century...

I'm rather surprised that more folks don't know that.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 08:29 AM (C9pBZ)

89 RedDish, are you still stuck in the Barrel? Here's a rope; you've suffered enough.

Posted by: bluebell at June 15, 2016 08:29 AM (805dc)

90 That rope is to help you climb out, by the way.

Posted by: bluebell at June 15, 2016 08:30 AM (805dc)

91 Before the week is out, the Orlando terrorist will be made out to be the real victim of the attack. Mark it.

Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 08:30 AM (7HtZB)

92 Once, vast herds of homosexuals thundered free across the prairie, as far as the eye could see.

--

To be fair, much like the panda, this particular animal, never seemed particularly interested in reproducing. It was only a matter if time before they died out.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 15, 2016 08:30 AM (KUaJL)

93 Ryan, is actually calling for MORE muzzie invasion.

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There are roughly two dozen muslims in Janesville. They opened their first mosque there last year. It appears that he met with them in the last few days. The local paper just has a headline. You have to register to read the whole story. I'm not doing that.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:31 AM (dFi94)

94
Ryan, Corker, and McConnell have just guaranteed that after Trump, I will never vote for another person with an R after their name. I will literally vote against the Republican party from here on. Either we get a new party, or I will become an activist against Republicans.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 08:24 AM (4ng05)
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It's not the R after the name; it's the E.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 08:31 AM (pC96u)

95 >>> The shooter was Jeh Johnson's employee.

"That's a beautiful point. He's so paranoid about mainstream Americans that he can't see a security risk under his own nose."

Jeh Johnson's DHS, on the case:

"'I spent eight hours with a Midwest police force -- 250 officers teaching them about jihad -- and helping them understand about al-Quaeda and the Islamic faith,' Gorka said."

"'After eight hours of talking to them a young woman walks up from the Obama administration from the Department of Homeland Security and says, 'Look Dr. Gorka, that's all very interesting, but I disagree with all of it because the primary threat to America is white supremacists.'"

http://tinyurl.com/zvcwsax

(h/t to John Schindler of 20committee.com)

Posted by: torquewrench at June 15, 2016 08:31 AM (noWW6)

96 Those youthful idealists were the ones who formed the backbone of the SS."

Along with the single best definition of "useful idiots" - the Brownshirts (or SA).

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 08:31 AM (C9pBZ)

97 Thanks bluebell!

/showers

Posted by: RedDish at June 15, 2016 08:31 AM (5eXg1)

98 Gators can be in any body of water in FL, even the beach. People see them occasionally in the ocean near Guana State Park.

Thoughts and prayers for the family @Disney.

No BS, a friend of mine used to work at the Alligator Farm in St. Augustine. Had his arm below the elbow removed by a croc when he was cleaning up and reached over for a broom.

They can move fast.

Posted by: willy at June 15, 2016 08:31 AM (Ffw22)

99 Why the fuck does Ryan want MORE muzzie immigration?"

He is trying to signal to the news media that he is not 'one of them', those republicans who are racist, anti immigrant fascists Trump supporters.

It's probably why McConnel signaled that he 'might be' willing to talk about gun control.

Virtue signaling, I think it's been labeled.

Posted by: Charly Dont Surf at June 15, 2016 08:32 AM (UhIjG)

100 And as much as it pains me, I'll be very surprised if the Cubs aren't in the Series this year.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2016 08:27 AM (/tuJf)
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If that happens, the next event is the appearance of the Four Horseman.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:32 AM (dFi94)

101 Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 08:24 AM (4ng05)

Unfortunately, I can no longer dispense out of hand with theories about 'globalists.'

(And I don't mean that as a euphemism for 'Jews.')

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:33 AM (nIGPZ)

102 toxic masculinity drives gun violence
http://tinyurl.com/hs7ozx5

I wondered how long it would take for the Orlando shooter to be lumped in with conservatives somehow. According to Salon he was just like those right wing gun owners.

Posted by: TheRoboz at June 15, 2016 08:33 AM (KxqEh)

103 We are seeing right now the question most of us with a conservative bent discussed in college: How would the left deal with a regime like the Nazi's in modern times?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 15, 2016 08:11 AM (3ZoRf)

Look up a column titled "Who Goes Nazi?" in the August 1941 issue of Harper's Magazine. It's written by Dorothy Thompson.

That will give you insight into the question, and as a bonus it's still a relevant party game today.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 15, 2016 08:34 AM (PFy0L)

104 I wondered how long it would take for the Orlando shooter to be lumped in with conservatives somehow."

Approx 2.7 seconds. Give or take a half second.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 08:36 AM (C9pBZ)

105 12 Posted by: Charly Dont Surf at June 15, 2016 08:04 AM (UhIjG)

Yup Orlando SWAT let the guy run "The DR Phil Meets the Imam Show" for three hours....

Amarillo PD had their Somali down in less than 30 minutes...makes you wonder.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 08:36 AM (g8Hfr)

106 Inflammatory or flaming? I guess both fit.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 15, 2016 08:36 AM (fiylK)

107
.And Trump made him do it because of all the hate. Yep the left has lost the bubble on this one and they are flailing all over the place.

Perhaps they are flailing, but they are not moving off the "Trump is mean and evil" theme one iota -- at least not those who run their mouths publicly on my social media accounts. Let's not delude ourselves over how big a game changer the Orlando murders were.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 15, 2016 08:36 AM (fOgSR)

108
Inspired By Orlando Massacre, Actress Mara Wilson Comes Out as "Bi/Queer"

To save you the googling, that would be "Matilda" from the same movie.

30ish kid actress with a dead career bandwagons on a massacre to try and make something happen.

Actors, ladies and gents!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 08:36 AM (kdS6q)

109 81 >>As much as I'd love the Cubs to win the WS , I never want to see women in baseball. But I bet baseball will be the first to go, since it's largely non-contact.

I read recently that the hardest pitch thrown by a female player was clocked at 79 mph. If that is your fast ball, you will get shelled by male mlb pitchers. A man who can only throw 79 mph would probably never even make it out of rookie ball. Baseball might be (largely) noncontact, but you still have to be strong as hell to play it.

Look at the woman who tried out as an nfl kicker a few years ago and started crying when she couldn't get the ball anywhere close to the goal post.

Or the women's Olympic soccer team that was just beaten by a bunch of 14 year olds.

The only way I can see women competing on male teams is if they are trannies ie, not really women.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 08:36 AM (P8951)

110 And as much as it pains me, I'll be very surprised if the Cubs aren't in the Series this year.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2016 08:27 AM (/tuJf)
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If that happens, the next event is the appearance of the Four Horseman.

Sweet! I've always wanted to ride the pale horse.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:37 AM (wXHOL)

111 There is a mosque a mile or two away from me. It's Albanian. They fly the American flag outside. I've met a lot of Albanians here in Kenosha (don't know why they'd pick this spot, but oh well). They seem to really like Americans. My hair stylist is Albanian. She got tears in her eyes when I told her my son had been stationed in Kosovo. She wanted to give me a gift. Kept saying thank you over and over again.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:37 AM (dFi94)

112 " If that is your fast ball, you will get shelled by male mlb pitchers"

Of course, I mean hitters.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 08:37 AM (P8951)

113 57 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:19 AM (nIGPZ)

I tweeted that to Obama yesterday.

"Omar Mateen worked for you and Jeh"

If you see me in the camps look for the scar over the loeft eye.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 08:39 AM (g8Hfr)

114 Yup Orlando SWAT let the guy run "The DR Phil Meets the Imam Show" for three hours....

Amarillo PD had their Somali down in less than 30 minutes

...makes you wonder.

If it's worth fucking with Texas?

No. No it isn't.
Muzzies 0.
Texas 2.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:39 AM (wXHOL)

115 round up all the non citizens. Load them onto big freaking planes. Give them two peanut butter sandwiches and two bottles of water. Attach them to cheap parachuts. Free skydiving south of Mexico. Include even hot Scandinavian models to make a point. Use laws on books to arrest and jail imams and others linked to community centers. Build wall. Employ citizens to train and guard borders. Turn off immigration. Tell the world to fix their shit while we fix ours.

Things will get worse. I'm convinced it has been the plan for a long time. I don't see how the outline above would fuck us even more than we will be fucked.

Posted by: an idea at June 15, 2016 08:40 AM (kr/v5)

116 round up all the non citizens.

We don't know where they are!!!

wink wink

Posted by: Bruce at June 15, 2016 08:42 AM (8ikIW)

117 Build wall. Employ citizens to train and guard borders. Turn off immigration. Tell the world to fix their shit while we fix ours.

Cheaper to offer a $5 an ear bounty.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:42 AM (wXHOL)

118 What fresh hell will this new day bring? On the plus
side. Pay day = Purchases of ammo and 30RD mags. These babies are going
to be worth a fortune on the black market after the Dems outlaw them.

Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 08:00 AM (O7MnT)

My condolences on your upcoming tragic canoeing accident, where you lose it all overboard. Alas, alas!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2016 08:42 AM (L1Xf4)

119 If that is your fast ball, you will get shelled by male mlb pitchers."

Ah, catching, pitching, it's all the same. Right?

As to pitches, though - that's not much faster than some BP (batting practice) pitchers (mostly retired players as coaches).

That's a good HS/college level pitch - but only if you've got a couple of other good pitches. A grooved inside 70's FB will just fly over the left field fence...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 08:42 AM (C9pBZ)

120 71 Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 08:24 AM (4ng05)

Yes because what is important here is giving the left decades of undiluted power like they got in the UK to force the need for the Brexit.

We've been sold out true, and the GOP needs broken up on the rocks without a doubt b/c just like the UK the asshole right has sold us out too.

Giving the internationalist left 50 free moves on the dumbfuck bingo board probably is not the way to stop what's coming.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 08:42 AM (g8Hfr)

121 Once, vast herds of homosexuals thundered free across the prairie, as far as the eye could see.

That was the Old Queers. They were sometimes fun to have around. Often.
Now you have the very-special New Queers. Whiny victim bitches, Dad.

Sort of like the actual, real rich: once they're gone, you get to missing them.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 15, 2016 08:43 AM (tIja6)

122 >>Look up a column titled "Who Goes Nazi?" in the August 1941 issue of Harper's Magazine. It's written by Dorothy Thompson. Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 15, 2016 08:34 AM (PFy0L)

Interesting article, though she kind of lost my reader's allegiance with "Nazism has nothing to do with race and nationality." I have a feeling that the most fervent practitioners/promulgators would disagree with that statement wholeheartedly.

Anyway, interesting article, thanks for the tip.

Posted by: General Zod at June 15, 2016 08:43 AM (Bdeb0)

123 Just got an email saying that the largest group moving into Israel right now are French Jews. France apparently has the largest Jewish population of any country in Europe. They are getting out of Dodge. Increasing anti-semitism is cited as the cause.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:43 AM (dFi94)

124 I have high hopes for Brexit.

I also have every expectation that it will not be permitted under any circumstances, whether it requires wholesale fraud or outright martial law.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:43 AM (nIGPZ)

125 Things will get worse.
Posted by: an idea at June 15, 2016 08:40 AM (kr/v5)
___________

Unfortunately, I agree.

I can't help but think, this is odumba's plan. Marshall and other bs comes to mind.

Posted by: willy at June 15, 2016 08:44 AM (Ffw22)

126 84 They'd join the Nazis.

People don't realize how popular Adolf was among young people, particularly those at universities. Those youthful idealists were the ones who formed the backbone of the SS. That's why I'm always bemused when people talk as if the young have some sort of special wisdom. In fact, young people have shown themselves to be quite susceptible to the lure of totalitarianism.

The faculty also embraced Nazism. Think of all the teaching positions that opened up at German universities once they kicked out the Jews.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 08:28 AM (P8951)
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I remember reading in Jonah Goldberg's book Liberal Fascism about how youths at German universities demanded that non-Aryan literature (i.e. Jewish) be banned from universities. Sounds pretty similar to SJWs wanting to ban anything that is deemed "too white" doesn't it?

Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 15, 2016 08:44 AM (BDZWU)

127 111 Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:37 AM (dFi94)

Yeah the Ethnic Albanians are saints...

https://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/ethnic-albanian-foreign-fighters-in-iraq-and-syria

Invariably in Islam "Muslim-insert X" is rendered as "Muslim-insert x"

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 08:44 AM (g8Hfr)

128 As to the query - unlimited free migration across borders of first world states has been a staple of "educated" thought since the late 70s. Every "model UN", "Student council", and more have preached that with a fervor unmatched since Carrie Nation. Our Mandarin class has been stewing in it for nigh on half a century...

I'm rather surprised that more folks don't know that.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 08:29 AM (C9pBZ)

Those guys with those "conspiracy theories" - the tinfoil hatters - yeah - I'll have what they're having. It sure as hell seems like the drunken, glassy eyed mumblings of the new world order, don't seem that far fetched anymore.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 08:45 AM (4ng05)

129 Brexit. I think at the last minute it will magically get voted down. Like with the Irish referendum on independence.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:45 AM (7lVbc)

130 @ 56
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 15, 2016 08:18 AM (tIja6)

There is a native population of American crocs in Florida, they are in the southern most parts of the state. The new crocs are a different type.

Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at June 15, 2016 08:45 AM (kHJ3a)

131 The Elites have been trying for decades to make my jack off fantasy a fucking reality.

Posted by: The Turner Diaries at June 15, 2016 08:45 AM (kr/v5)

132 I believe there was a video of a snowbird trying to pet a gator on YouTube
just a few weeks ago.

Posted by: Colin at June 15, 2016 08:45 AM (fxoKC)

133 I also have every expectation that it will not be permitted under any circumstances, whether it requires wholesale fraud.."

The Al Franken campaign committee has already walked them thru the steps required to stuff ballots into a Land Rover.

It (the vote) won't be that close.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 08:46 AM (C9pBZ)

134 124 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:43 AM (nIGPZ)

The UK is an island...sooner or later people will be put up against a wall if they do not allow people to rule their destiny.

The Brexiters or the EUnuchs someone will pay.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 08:46 AM (g8Hfr)

135
The Irony Dial goes to 11:

Bill Ayers

Isn't there a single legislator who will introduce a bill to ban AR-15s?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 08:46 AM (kdS6q)

136 >>The new crocs are a different type. Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at June 15, 2016 08:45 AM (kHJ3a)

They're Mexican crocs. Mexico isn't sending us their best crocs, either.

Posted by: General Zod at June 15, 2016 08:47 AM (Bdeb0)

137 toxic masculinity drives gun violence
http://tinyurl.com/hs7ozx5

Salon Clickbait should come with a warning.

Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 08:47 AM (O7MnT)

138 Doesn't surprise me. Tick tock.

Posted by: Captain Hook at June 15, 2016 08:48 AM (gwG9s)

139 Bill Ayers

Isn't there a single legislator who will introduce a bill to ban AR-15s?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 08:46 AM (kdS6q)
==================================================

That will make it a lot easier to bomb the University of Wisconsin. Maybe he can get more than one this time.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:48 AM (dFi94)

140 They prey facing Mecca.

Posted by: the gator at June 15, 2016 08:04 AM (ZnIt3)

ISWYDT

Posted by: Gran at June 15, 2016 08:48 AM (XIXhw)

141 Interesting article, though she kind of lost my reader's allegiance with "Nazism has nothing to do with race and nationality." I have a feeling that the most fervent practitioners/promulgators would disagree with that statement wholeheartedly.

Well, I think the point there is that, bottom line, Nazism is the same old song played at a different party. It seems counterintuitive to say that it isn't uniquely German, but consider an interesting question: leaving aside the genocidial policies, what plank of the Nazi philosophy would your average hard Lefty disagree vehemently with?

Not much, sadly.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 15, 2016 08:48 AM (eytER)

142
If that is your fast ball, you will get shelled by male mlb pitchers."

Ah, catching, pitching, it's all the same. Right?

As to pitches, though - that's not much faster than some BP (batting practice) pitchers (mostly retired players as coaches).

That's a good HS/college level pitch - but only if you've got a couple of other good pitches. A grooved inside 70's FB will just fly over the left field fence...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 08:42 AM (C9pBZ)

Pretty much the only way a female could compete at the MLB level is as a knuckleball specialist, rather like Tom Candiotti. Even then, I have my doubts.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 15, 2016 08:48 AM (LuZz8)

143 Pretty much the only way a female could compete at the MLB level is as a
knuckleball specialist, rather like Tom Candiotti. Even then, I have my
doubts.
===================================================

Left field. Duh.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:49 AM (dFi94)

144 I also have every expectation that it will not be
permitted under any circumstances, whether it requires wholesale fraud
or outright martial law.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:43 AM (nIGPZ)

The Brits voting to leave the EU are soon going to be reminded that they are subjects.Unarmed subjects.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2016 08:49 AM (L1Xf4)

145
Well, I think the point there is that, bottom line, Nazism is the same old song played at a different party.

Communism, fascism, Nazism, just different terminology and different uniforms.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:49 AM (nIGPZ)

146 "I did it for ISIS," the caller said, according to Gentili, "I did it for the Islamic State."

Hearsay and speculation. We're working the North Carolina Bathroom Legislation angle at the moment...

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at June 15, 2016 08:49 AM (Z58Xa)

147 Wow, those Trump numbers in the new ABC/CBS polls are historically bad. Dumping him at the convention would not be a bad idea. If he stays the nominee, Hillary will win by 10 pts.

Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 08:50 AM (cxyn3)

148 "Isn't there a single legislator who will introduce a bill to ban AR-15s?"

For some reason, a American Western type story line keeps trying to form in my head.

One where the more the peace loving Native Americans try to enforce their national borders by driving off the Pallor shaded invaders, the more the invaders insist on disarming themselves, their military and the Non-Native invasive settlers.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 08:51 AM (ptqRm)

149 Left field. Duh."

With that kind of arm, I could make it home from 2nd...

Heh.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 08:51 AM (C9pBZ)

150 leaving aside the genocidial policies, what plank of the Nazi philosophy would your average hard Lefty disagree vehemently with?

I don't think they'd have a problem with the genocidal policies either. What they write about white people is what anti-semites write about Jews.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:51 AM (nIGPZ)

151 We were all at a T-ball game last night. As hard as we tried, we could not keep him corralled all night ling. Do you know how squirmy a two year old can be?

As the father of a soon to be 2 year old boy I can attest to this. Little kids are *fast*, and relentless if they want to go somewhere. My boy's favorite thing right now is climbing on an end table from the couch. He knows he's not supposed to, so he waits until I look away. I looked away for 3 seconds last night and I swear he went all the way across the room, climbed onto the couch and onto the table before I could stop him.

I can't even imagine trying to manage him in a place like Disney. Too many people moving around in a semi-random pattern, too many distractions. Ugh.

Posted by: GMan at June 15, 2016 08:51 AM (sxq57)

152 "So ... is .357 sufficient to shoot a gator in the head, or do you need to go .44 ?"

It depends on how well you think you can shoot with a hard recoiling pistol. They can be killed with a .22 and there is some show on The History Channel where they do that all the time.

Probably your best bet would be an AR-15 because most people are better able to hit what they are aiming at with a rifle than a pistol.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 08:51 AM (QHgTq)

153 Isn't there a single legislator who will introduce a bill to ban AR-15s"

Anyone asking the twit as to why the AR?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 08:52 AM (C9pBZ)

154 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 08:52 AM (kff5f)

155 Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 08:50 AM (cxyn3)

Concern:

[X] Noted.

[ ] Not Noted.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:52 AM (nIGPZ)

156
Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 08:50 AM (cxyn3)

Concern:

[x] Noted

[ ] Not noted

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 15, 2016 08:52 AM (LuZz8)

157 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 08:52 AM (kff5f)

158 We've been sold out true, and the GOP needs broken up on the rocks without a doubt b/c just like the UK the asshole right has sold us out too.

Giving the internationalist left 50 free moves on the dumbfuck bingo board probably is not the way to stop what's coming.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 08:42 AM (g8Hfr)

Yeah, because supporting the curroptocrats they way we have been has worked out so wonderfully well.

Look, I don't want to argue about this, but the GOP leaders are no better in any way than the Dems, in my mind. I don't mean to say that I will vote Dem, but I refuse to continue to support the GOP when clearly, they don't give a fuck about what their constituencies want, the don't give a fuck about what conservatives want, and they don't give a fuck about the country.

There is literally nobody out there saying that they want MORE muzzie immigration except other global politicians. If this isn't coordinated, I'll kiss your ass.

Say what you will about Trump, but the phenomenon of Trump is what has exposed this shit. What Ryan, Corker and McConnell exposed themselves to be doing yesterday was to be actively campaigning for one of their own, one of the establishment, Hillary Clinton.

Fuck them.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 08:52 AM (4ng05)

159 I told him I appreciated the thought but I'd rather fly the new guy to me in western NY for training. So that's what we did.

(The trainee was a recent college grad, of Columbian descent but as
American as anyone. Very polite, intelligent and well spoken young guy.
Raised right, you could tell. The week I spent with him gave me some
hope for our recent college grads.)

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 15, 2016 08:22 AM (WlGX+)

Actually I live in Western NY, but having covered Miami from one end to the other for work, its actually one of the nicest cities in Florida. Having extensively covered all the cities in Florida, it was much better than expected. One area was kind of bad, but overall..and..Little Havana was interesting. Miami Beach is a different story, crowded, traffic, and not that great.

Posted by: Colin at June 15, 2016 08:52 AM (fxoKC)

160 I just read about the Orlando alligator story. I can't imagine anything more horrifying than seeing my baby dragged off in the jaws of a gator. Unspeakable horror. What a terrible, rotten, no good few days it's been.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 15, 2016 08:52 AM (+FSld)

161 Hi AllenG

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:52 AM (dFi94)

162 This referendum in Britian about leaving the Eurozone is just the beginning. It will take years to untangle all the laws that keep Britian in the Eurozone, and every step in the process will be fought.

It will be exactly like what would happen in the US trying to undo everthing the left has done over the last one hundred years, and every little change would be fought by mobs in the street.

Posted by: Charly Dont Surf at June 15, 2016 08:53 AM (UhIjG)

163 147 Wow, those Trump numbers in the new ABC/CBS polls are historically bad. Dumping him at the convention would not be a bad idea. If he stays the nominee, Hillary will win by 10 pts.
___________

Who would be your preferred replacement?

Posted by: willy at June 15, 2016 08:53 AM (Ffw22)

164

Geez, y'all are fast.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 15, 2016 08:53 AM (LuZz8)

165

you know what to do

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/06/13/poll-reinstate-federal-assault-weapons-ban/

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 15, 2016 08:53 AM (0O7c5)

166 "Anyone asking the twit as to why the AR?"

AR-15 owners tend to vote conservative?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 08:53 AM (ptqRm)

167 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 08:52 AM (kff5f)

I was starting to wonder if you'd been banned. Busy working at work?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 15, 2016 08:53 AM (GDulk)

168
Ryan, is actually calling for MORE muzzie invasion.

Trump would do this country an enormous favor if his first act as president was to arrest the entire congress for treason.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2016 08:53 AM (X6fMO)

169 "148
"Isn't there a single legislator who will introduce a bill to ban AR-15s?"

For some reason, a American Western type story line keeps trying to form in my head.

One where the more the peace loving Native Americans try to enforce
their national borders by driving off the Pallor shaded invaders, the
more the invaders insist on disarming themselves, their military and the
Non-Native invasive settlers.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 08:51 AM (ptqRm)"

Read the story of the peaceful Chatham Islanders and the Maori.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 08:54 AM (QHgTq)

170
Guy who wrote Hey Wont You Play Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song es meurte.

Posted by: M Magoo at June 15, 2016 08:54 AM (zJeEZ)

171
those Trump numbers in the new ABC/CBS polls are historically bad.
-----------------------

Don't know much about a history book.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 08:54 AM (pC96u)

172 "Just got an email saying that the largest group moving into Israel right now are French Jews"

Those young enough to be told to muster for mandatory IDF service are in for a shock, if they're expecting it to be like French military life. While the French have very rough and tough elite units, the run of the mill recruits have it pretty soft.

What, in Israel, no truffles, pate de fois gras, or red wine in the field rations? Sacre bleu! Zees ees a crime against zee civilization!

Posted by: torquewrench at June 15, 2016 08:54 AM (noWW6)

173 "This is an agenda, I'm convinced of it. The fucking jackasses like Ryan, Corker and McConnell, are following instructions."

I'm not usually given to conspiracy theories, but I think there's been a coup. There very clearly is an agenda, and we're not driving it.

Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 15, 2016 08:54 AM (ZEzaq)

174 Say what you will about Trump, but the phenomenon of Trump is what has exposed this ..."

Exactly so. I'm not sure that TRUMP! is even the driving force for most/much of his support (I know, hardly a surprising point).

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 08:55 AM (C9pBZ)

175 Left field. Duh."

With that kind of arm, I could make it home from 2nd...

!
-Michelle Fields

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:55 AM (wXHOL)

176 Guy who wrote Hey Wont You Play Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song es meurte.

Posted by: M Magoo at June 15, 2016 08:54 AM (zJeEZ)
==============================================

Was that B.J. Thomas? Or did he just sing it?

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:55 AM (dFi94)

177 The upcoming sequel to Finding Nemo features a transgender sting ray. No shit.

Sorry Disney, my kids won't be seeing this movie. Not at theaters, not on cable, not on Blu-Ray.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2016 08:55 AM (L1Xf4)

178 Morning all.

Combination of working-at-work, and not wanting to face the reality of how evil some of my countrymen are- some of them my friends.

Anyone who can look at the Orlando Terror Attack and say the problem is that we didn't unilaterally disarm after Sandy Hook (yes, that came across my feed multiple times on FB) is at best a Useful Idiot, and at worst an apologist for evil.

The idea of actually engaging in political discussion has been too depressing of late.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 08:56 AM (kff5f)

179 Stop quoting the (concern) trolls.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:56 AM (nIGPZ)

180 135
The Irony Dial goes to 11:

Bill Ayers

Isn't there a single legislator who will introduce a bill to ban AR-15s?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 08:46 AM (kdS6q)

Yeah! Real terrorists use pipe bombs!

Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 08:56 AM (7HtZB)

181 163 147 Wow, those Trump numbers in the new ABC/CBS polls are historically bad. Dumping him at the convention would not be a bad idea. If he stays the nominee, Hillary will win by 10 pts.
___________

Who would be your preferred replacement?

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Cruz would be my choice (and it's who I voted for), but anyone who could run a competent campaign would be fine at this point. The critics who said Trump was intentionally trying to lose might have been right.

Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 08:57 AM (cxyn3)

182 Stole this from prior thread.
Academy Sports is pulling modern sporting rifles from their display. In addition, any sale of 10+ boxes of "assault rifle caliber" ammo is to be recorded in an internal database with the buyer's personal contact info.
(summarized for brevity)

https://tinyurl.com/hk6odro

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 07:13 AM (kdS6q)

Alas, we will be seeing another sporting goods chain follow Sports Authority down the toilet. Shocking thing is this company has their HQ in Texas.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at June 15, 2016 08:57 AM (jxbfJ)

183 toxic masculinity drives gun violence
http://tinyurl.com/hs7ozx5

I wondered how long it would take for the Orlando shooter to be lumped in with conservatives somehow. According to Salon he was just like those right wing gun owners.
Posted by: TheRoboz at June 15, 2016 08:33 AM (KxqEh)

It is Salon. nuff said.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 15, 2016 08:57 AM (kKHcp)

184 "Wow, those Trump numbers in the new ABC/CBS polls are historically bad."

I'm not a Trumpkin, have never been, and figure The Donald's mouth has already been digging a deep hole for him to fall into and lose, but I don't trust alphabet-network polls for one second.

They regularly release stuff with what turn out to be ridiculously biased and unrepresentative internals.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 15, 2016 08:57 AM (noWW6)

185 Florida has a lot of ponds, a lot of lagoons, a lot of gators.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 15, 2016 08:15 AM

Yep. And some bottom-feeding plaintiff's lawyer is no doubt salivating right now at the thought of suing Disney for not having a fence around the pond. *spits*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2016 08:57 AM (bzd8I)

186
I just read about the Orlando alligator story. I can't imagine anything more horrifying than seeing my baby dragged off in the jaws of a gator. Unspeakable horror. What a terrible, rotten, no good few days it's been.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 15, 2016 08:52 AM (+FSld)
----------------------

I keep trying to put it out of my mind. If that were my kid, that image would be the last thing I would think of every night and the first thing I'd think of every morning for the rest of my life. I feel so sorry for those poor parents.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 08:57 AM (pC96u)

187 Chips Moman, songwriter.

Toes up.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 08:57 AM (ptqRm)

188 Posted by: torquewrench at June 15, 2016 08:54 AM (noWW6)

I loved Israel when John and I visited. Have to admit I *didn't* love the food.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 15, 2016 08:57 AM (GDulk)

189 The upcoming sequel to Finding Nemo features a transgender sting ray. No shit.

Sorry Disney, my kids won't be seeing this movie. Not at theaters, not on cable, not on Blu-Ray.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2016 08:55 AM (L1Xf4)
=================================================

Someone once coined the phrase "Defining Deviancy Down". I think it was something like that anyway. Moynihan?

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:57 AM (dFi94)

190 Geez, y'all are fast."

Half fast...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 08:58 AM (C9pBZ)

191 181
163 147 Wow, those Trump numbers in the new ABC/CBS polls
Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 08:57 AM (cxyn3)

I read all I need to as soon as I saw ABC/CBS. Not against you beegs, but anything put out by those two MSM outfits isn't worth the time.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at June 15, 2016 08:58 AM (jxbfJ)

192 Do I dare play Devil's Advocate and suggest that Corker, McConnell, and Ryan could be attacking Trump because they genuinely disagree with him?

[Given: If true, it's inappropriate for them to air their disagreements publicly. And Given: It doesn't mean they aren't feckless doorknobs.]

Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 08:58 AM (O7MnT)

193 The upcoming sequel to Finding Nemo features a transgender sting ray. No shit.

Wait. Really?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 08:58 AM (kff5f)

194 As the father of a soon to be 2 year old boy I can attest to this. Little kids are *fast*, and relentless if they want to go somewhere.

--

Also too, this family was from Nebraska, likely with no awareness of the danger. Mr. Black is from Florida, Orlando to be exact. Natives know gators can be anywhere there is water...'cause they are. They've even been known to be found in people's swimming pools. You always need to be alert when you're by a body of water there, especially a shoreline. I see them everywhere when we're down there...little beady eyes barely sticking out of the water.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 15, 2016 08:59 AM (+FSld)

195 190
Geez, y'all are fast."

Half fast...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 08:58 AM (C9pBZ)
Nah - full fast. Go big or go home I say

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at June 15, 2016 08:59 AM (jxbfJ)

196 If the aftermath of the Orlando massacre doesn't open the eyes of these rank & file lefties, nothing will.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:59 AM (7lVbc)

197 I smote ace with blindness now I am coming to destroy the rest of YOU

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 15, 2016 08:59 AM (5KAcM)

198 Do I dare play Devil's Advocate and suggest that Corker, McConnell, and Ryan could be attacking Trump because they genuinely disagree with him?

I'm sure they disagree with what he says. Which is a problem, since what Trump is saying (which may or may not have any connection to what the man believes) is grounded solidly in the real world.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 08:59 AM (kff5f)

199 Once, vast herds of homosexuals thundered free across the prairie, as far as the eye could see. But, that was in the time of the Red Man, before the White Man and his Iron Horse arrived.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 08:11 AM (kdS6q)

Funny, funny stuff.

Posted by: troyriser at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM (UWlp+)

200 Someone once coined the phrase "Defining Deviancy Down". I think it was something like that anyway. Moynihan?

Yes.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM (oVJmc)

201 So, apparently the commenters on that Washington Post article believe we had it coming.

You know, as usual, don't read the comments.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM (q/kmn)

202 erick ericson on beck yesterday, i caught it on the local station who plays beck at night made the first point about this that i actually kind of agree with.......and i don't like erick at all......i think he made a YUGE mistake "uninviting" trump from his shindig after the kelly incident...

anyway.....his point was....when people are talking about needing trump for supreme court nominations......his response was......we are past the point of the supreme court saving our country......

.....then coast to coast cames on and a guest was talking about how interesting trump's name is and that his supporters are called "trumpets" because something about the end times and hearing "trumpets"......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM (0O7c5)

203 193 The upcoming sequel to Finding Nemo features a transgender sting ray. No shit.

Wait. Really?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 08:58 AM (kff5f)

Yes. "Sting-Rhonda" is xer name. No, I'm not joking.

Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM (7HtZB)

204 >>Not much, sadly. Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 15, 2016 08:48 AM (eytER)

Point taken. Another interesting take is applying historian Ian Kershaw's "working toward the Fuhrer" theory to modern Democratic liberalism, i.e. described by Peter Longerich as "the complex of social expectations and motivations projected onto Hitler" by his followers. Democratic leaders don't need to promulgate directives; they just need to keep reiterating the tenets of the ideology and allow their deep-and-wide architecture of industrious grassroots followers to build the ideology into micro-policy. Go to the average community board meeting/school board, etc. and you see the ideology expressed in the sausage-making of microadministration.

Posted by: General Zod at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM (Bdeb0)

205 I read all I need to as soon as I saw ABC/CBS. Not against you beegs, but anything put out by those two MSM outfits isn't worth the time.

I'm not on Team Trump, but if I were, I would consider those polls very carefully before dismissing them. If there are things the campaign needs to fix, it should fix them; and not proceed in denial.

Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM (O7MnT)

206 If the aftermath of the Orlando massacre doesn't open the eyes of these rank file lefties, nothing will.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:59 AM (7lVbc)

Nothing will, trust me.

Posted by: Colin at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM (fxoKC)

207 What the EU is, what it is being sold as, (and not openly in these terms) is a benevolent, or at worst a benign tyranny.

It is a tyranny - it is unelected and unaccountable for anything it imposes on Europe. There is a massive hard sell going on right now that is amazingly fascinating. Huge global entities - corporations and (for lack of a better term) global social engineering interests, are all trying to slam the EU experiment down the throats of the European people, and it is horrifying to me that their efforts reflect what is going on in our own political process.

We're geese, being force fed out grain and soon we'll be foie gras.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 09:01 AM (4ng05)

208 203
193 The upcoming sequel to Finding Nemo features a transgender sting ray. No shit.

Wait. Really?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 08:58 AM (kff5f)

Yes. "Sting-Rhonda" is xer name. No, I'm not joking.

Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM (7HtZB)

and look at the favoritism shown for the male to female......why not female to male? there is always a pecking order......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 15, 2016 09:01 AM (0O7c5)

209 My kid wants to see Finding Nemo. I suspect she is being brainwashed by lefty friends. I really worry about it. She's a Berniebot already. Thinks Trump is horrible. Basically parroting lefty lines.
I did talk to her about how awful Hillary is and why and she was open to that.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:01 AM (7lVbc)

210 Yes. "Sting-Rhonda" is xer name. No, I'm not joking.

Dammit.

And I *like* Disney/Pixar movies.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:01 AM (kff5f)

211 "158
We've been sold out true, and the GOP needs broken up on the rocks
without a doubt b/c just like the UK the asshole right has sold us out
too.

Giving the internationalist left 50 free moves on the dumbfuck bingo board probably is not the way to stop what's coming.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 08:42 AM (g8Hfr)

Yeah, because supporting the curroptocrats they way we have been has worked out so wonderfully well.

Look, I don't want to argue about this, but the GOP leaders are no
better in any way than the Dems, in my mind. I don't mean to say that I
will vote Dem, but I refuse to continue to support the GOP when
clearly, they don't give a fuck about what their constituencies want,
the don't give a fuck about what conservatives want, and they don't give
a fuck about the country.

There is literally nobody out there saying that they want MORE
muzzie immigration except other global politicians. If this isn't
coordinated, I'll kiss your ass.

Say what you will about Trump, but the phenomenon of Trump is what
has exposed this shit. What Ryan, Corker and McConnell exposed
themselves to be doing yesterday was to be actively campaigning for one
of their own, one of the establishment, Hillary Clinton.

Fuck them.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 08:52 AM (4ng05)"

The Saudi crown prince who is the new Saudi ambassador to the US apparently said that the Saudis contribute to both parties before that statement was sent down the memory hole. One other thing that I have noticed about Republicans is that they got a lot less feisty after the Clintons illegally copied all their FBI reports when Bill Clinton first took office. I had previously dismissed talk of blackmail as conspiracy theory stuff but the conviction of Dennis Hastert for kiddie diddling back in the day has caused me to rethink that. Now whenever I see some Republican betraying us, I assume that it is probably because he has a dark secret that he is trying to hide in order to stay out of jail.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 09:02 AM (QHgTq)

212 IMHO: This transgender thing is a fad like hula hoops and CB radios. Eventually, the left will grow tired of it. The trannies will always be with us, but someday, we will have moved on to other things.

Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 09:03 AM (O7MnT)

213 The upcoming sequel to Finding Nemo features a transgender sting ray. No shit.

Wait. Really?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 08:58 AM (kff5f)

Yes. Sting 'Ray' is in the process of becoming Sting 'Rhonda'. The story is up at WeaselZippers.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2016 09:03 AM (L1Xf4)

214 Yes. "Sting-Rhonda" is xer name. No, I'm not joking.

Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM (7HtZB)
=============================================

They are determined to snatch our kids away. They are as bad as that alligator. Worse. The alligator wasn't acting with premeditated evil intent.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 09:03 AM (dFi94)

215 Wow, those Trump numbers in the new ABC/CBS polls are historically bad.

Depends. Currently about 25% of voters are republican. About 28% are democrats. The vast majority, the largest group, belongs to neither party.

Yet the polls are of republican and democrats, ignoring the largest block of voters.

Does that make any sense? Is that representative of anything?

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 15, 2016 09:03 AM (ZnIt3)

216 Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM (O7MnT)

I'm waiting to see if Dave in Florida corroborates the claim.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 15, 2016 09:03 AM (GDulk)

217 Do I dare play Devil's Advocate and suggest that Corker, McConnell, and
Ryan could be attacking Trump because they genuinely disagree with him?>>>

There's no doubt that they disagree with Trump. My doubt is if they disagree with Hillary since they are so silent in comparison on her and the dems.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 15, 2016 09:03 AM (wrS2o)

218 My kid wants to see Finding Nemo. I suspect she is being brainwashed by lefty friends. I really worry about it.

Finding Nemo, or Finding Dory (the new one)? Because I didn't really see anything overly objectionable in Finding Nemo. And the sea turtles were totally awesome, man.

But it's sounding more and more like Finding Dory is just an SJW Crybully's wet dream, and I'm not interested in that.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:04 AM (kff5f)

219 I'm a perfect parent but not everyone is that's why it takes a fucking village, people.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 15, 2016 09:04 AM (5KAcM)

220 Stole this from prior thread."

Should've left it there. As with all early reports, be very careful to verify.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 09:04 AM (C9pBZ)

221 Finding Dory, I mean.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:04 AM (7lVbc)

222 IF Cruz had run a good campaign that connected with voters, he would be the nominee.

IF Jeb had run a good campaign that connected with voters, he would be the nominee.

IF Rubio

IF

IF

IF

well, they didn't so we have Trump.

IF the GOP party leaders can stop Trump at the convention, then we might be able to get a compromise candidate more representative of the party.

IF the voters don't rebel against the party leadership, should they block Trump and nominate someone else.

IF

If

IF

IF

IF

IF

Posted by: Charly Dont Surf at June 15, 2016 09:05 AM (UhIjG)

223 184 "Wow, those Trump numbers in the new ABC/CBS polls are historically bad."

I'm not a Trumpkin, have never been, and figure The Donald's mouth has already been digging a deep hole for him to fall into and lose, but I don't trust alphabet-network polls for one second.

They regularly release stuff with what turn out to be ridiculously biased and unrepresentative internals.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Once the "unskewing the polls" nonsense starts, the election is over. The Bloomberg poll also shows Trump down a gigantic amount and that was done by Selzer, who has the best reputation (along with the MU Law Poll) in the business.

A guy like Ron Johnson (I'm in WI) knows he has no chance to win with Trump at the top of the ticket. He's spending a ton of money already on TV ads to try and keep himself in the game but he's down 10 pts in spite of the effort. When it looked like Cruz was going to win WI and could be the nominee, he was in a statistical tie.

I'll vote for Trump vs Hillary, but nothing he's doing with his "campaign" shows that he's even a little serious about winning.

Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 09:05 AM (cxyn3)

224 .....then coast to coast cames on and a guest was talking about how interesting trump's name is and that his supporters are called "trumpets" because something about the end times and hearing "trumpets"......
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM (0O7c5)

*****

The phrase at that doughy GOPe fuck's website is "Trumpanzees". Yeah, he's a "Conservative".

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 15, 2016 09:05 AM (5ha+F)

225 Anyone asking the twit as to why the AR?

A man with an AR, and his compatriots so armed, might actually resist an organized program to extinguish their lives, liberty, and way of life.

The audacity!

Posted by: Widdle Billy Ayers, standing on your flag in an alley at June 15, 2016 09:05 AM (s7Fh9)

226 Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:01 AM (7lVbc)

The middle-schools here in reddish metroHouston are actively teaching their students that Trump is awful and must be stopped.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 15, 2016 09:06 AM (GDulk)

227 My kid wants to see Finding Nemo. I suspect she is being brainwashed by lefty friends. I really worry about it. She's a Berniebot already. Thinks Trump is horrible. Basically parroting lefty lines. I did talk to her about how awful Hillary is and why and she was open to that.

Take the money you were going to use to take her to see Finding Nemo and donate it to charity.

Tell her, "sorry, no cash. It's what Bernie would want."

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 09:06 AM (wXHOL)

228
Yes. "Sting-Rhonda" is xer name. No, I'm not joking.

Supposedly a dumb joke by Degeneres.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 09:07 AM (nIGPZ)

229 I'll vote for Trump vs Hillary, but nothing he's doing with his "campaign" shows that he's even a little serious about winning.
Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 09:05 AM (cxyn3)

*****

Ron Johnson would get buried with me on the top of the ticket.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at June 15, 2016 09:07 AM (5ha+F)

230
You want to hear horror stories: woman with 5 y/o daughter meets ex con thru her church. Man kidnaps her and daughter, strangles her to unconsciousness, drives off with little girl and throws her into bayou to be eaten by gators.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 15, 2016 09:07 AM (iQIUe)

231 Apropos of absolutely nothing... anyone in the DFW area have a drill press (I have my own Dremmel)?

I'm seriously considering purchasing one of those Polymer80 80/20 lowers, but I don't own a drill press.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:07 AM (kff5f)

232 The MSM lies. It's what they do.
Their polling is no different, but with one or two caeats.

They will be accurate within a week of an election, because their credibility is on the line.
Outside of that timeline they are free to push poll, or carefully phrase questions in such a way as to influence answers, "weight" their polling, all sorts of things that affect how they come to their "big headline"

Do I believe left leaning polls this early in an election cycle?

Not even a little.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 15, 2016 09:07 AM (kKHcp)

233 "196
If the aftermath of the Orlando massacre doesn't open the eyes of these rank file lefties, nothing will.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:59 AM (7lVbc)"

Maybe a handful of them but for most lefties, when reality conflicts with their ideology, it is reality that has to go.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 09:08 AM (QHgTq)

234
News at Judicial Watch:

Hillary's IT stooge has to testify. He tried to invoke the Fifth but the judge says no dice.

In addition, he, unlike the previous witnesses, will be videotaped.

Judicial Watch doesn't say yet when that deposition will take place; it was supposed to be June 6, but the legal maneuvers delayed it.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 09:08 AM (pC96u)

235 Our problem is we go to church in a large movie theater. So when we walk down the hallways to put the kids into their Sunday School classes, we pass all the movie advertisements with the big posters and cartoon characters. So far the kids have never asked to see a movie. Maybe they think that's just how church looks. I suspect one day they'll wise up.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 09:08 AM (dFi94)

236 >>A guy like Ron Johnson (I'm in WI) knows he has no chance to win with Trump at the top of the ticket.

And that is exactly whey many Republicans are holding Trump at arms length right now. A lot of people seem to forget that the presidency is only one of the races happening this fall, the Senate is in play and if things get really ugly the House might be too.

I know there are many who don't care and think there is no difference who is in charge in Congress. I disagree. We would not have Obamacare if not for Obama having both a Dem House and Senate.

Still time to get this right but Trump need to get his shit together.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2016 09:08 AM (/tuJf)

237 Her best friend in school is a girl.who thinks she is gay. Very smart kid and a good kid. I think that's where it's coming from. They've been friends since elementary, so I don't want or think I can squash that. She's 14.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:08 AM (7lVbc)

238 I actually agree with Obozo on one thing. There is no such thing as "Radical Islam."

There is Islam. It is what it is.

So the FBI is swamped. Clowerd-Piven. You don't let people in if they are going to need to be watched.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 15, 2016 09:08 AM (1ijHg)

239 Go to the average community board meeting/school board, etc. and you see the ideology expressed in the sausage-making of microadministration."

Hardly new or newsworthy - thus the correct actions of the founders to limit government, knowing full well that limiting men was a foolish quest.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 09:08 AM (C9pBZ)

240
In addition, he, unlike the previous witnesses, will be videotaped.

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WHOA WHOA. Sorry, LIKE the previous witnesses, he will be videotaped.

They've all been taped, but the video and audio is under seal. Same for IT guy. We'll only get the transcript.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 09:09 AM (pC96u)

241 The middle-schools here in reddish metroHouston are actively teaching"

They're still in session? Did not know that.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 09:10 AM (C9pBZ)

242 The polls don't matter because at this point I will crawl over broken glass to vote against the Dems and the gope.
I regret that I gave only one vote to give to Trump.
I hope he crushes them.all.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:10 AM (7lVbc)

243 I never thought I'd see the day where I'd want to see the inside of a fish taco.

Posted by: Dory at June 15, 2016 09:10 AM (5KAcM)

244
Police receive terror alert that ISIS fighters have left Syria and are heading to France and Belgium to stage attacks

http://goo.gl/gwMvbk
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They have photos of the French police couple who were murdered. Very good looking. The french shd be very very afraid by this bullshit.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 15, 2016 09:10 AM (iQIUe)

245 "231
Apropos of absolutely nothing... anyone in the DFW area have a drill press (I have my own Dremmel)?

I'm seriously considering purchasing one of those Polymer80 80/20 lowers, but I don't own a drill press.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:07 AM (kff5f)"

If you are going to go with a plastic lower, you might want to look at AR15mold.com

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 09:11 AM (QHgTq)

246 Two year olds are yummy.

Posted by: Grendel at June 15, 2016 09:11 AM (1ijHg)

247 231 Apropos of absolutely nothing... anyone in the DFW area have a drill press (I have my own Dremmel)?

I'm seriously considering purchasing one of those Polymer80 80/20 lowers, but I don't own a drill press.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:07 AM (kff5f)

You have a Dremel? Then you can open up your own cut-rate LASIK center!

Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 09:11 AM (7HtZB)

248 "Now whenever I see some Republican
betraying us, I assume that it is probably because he has a dark secret
that he is trying to hide"

When I heard that a gay meat-market nightclub had been shot up, I immediately wondered whether Paul Ryan was among among the victims.

It's impossible to live in or around a heavily gay place like SF and not become wised up to certain "tells" over time. Ryan's got a ton of them.

Not that there's, y'know, any sort of _precedent_ for there being deeply closeted gays inside the D.C. Beltway, and in ostensibly heterosexual marriages to boot. Heavens no.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 15, 2016 09:12 AM (noWW6)

249 These guys seem like morons in the good way.

https://youtu.be/0OGTvIeiYjg

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2016 09:12 AM (B48dK)

250 Two year olds are yummy.

Posted by: Grendel at June 15, 2016 09:11 AM (1ijHg)
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Okay then. I'm gone.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 09:12 AM (dFi94)

251 We're geese, being force fed out grain and soon we'll be foie gras.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 09:01 AM (4ng05)

As I said yesterday, I really think this is a seminal year in history, a turning point like 1776, 1789, 1848, 1968, or 1989.

The forces of populism are in revolt against a powerful, corrupt elite that will do anything and tell any lie to preserve their own power. Like 1848 and 1989, there might be a happy ending in some places and a tragic one in others.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 09:13 AM (P8951)

252 An interest in eighty percent lowers?

Perhaps a purpose built CNC mill would interest you?

https://ghostgunner.net

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:14 AM (ptqRm)

253 Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 09:03 AM (O7MnT)

The professor parent of a autistic girl (young adult and emancipated so the parent couldn't do much) who was pushed into surgical reassignment by a therapist who didn't follow *any* of the rules, is sounding the alarm that she thinks dishonest therapists are targeting Asperger sufferers as they both struggle with identity as an affect of the syndrome and are easily manipulated. Naturally, she is being called a bigot by those profiting from playing god and then dumping the failed results.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 15, 2016 09:14 AM (GDulk)

254 If you are going to go with a plastic lower, you might want to look at AR15mold.com

I'll take a look. I've seen several reviews of the Polymer80 lowers and they've all been good - both in ease of finishing and quality of the final firearm, but I hadn't heard of AR15mold.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:15 AM (kff5f)

255 Always remember: The gators were (probably) there first. Always respect them.

Mornin' Horde. I see today's fresh hell is auditioning to be someone's new luggage.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 15, 2016 09:15 AM (9krrF)

256
"Once the "unskewing the polls" nonsense starts, the election is over."

I'll agree on this one. The polls are probably semi-accurate right now, but what does it matter?

Trump has had 68 million in negative ads run against him, but Hillary hasn't had a penny of bad ads run against her - yet.

If she wasn't ahead now, it would be amazing.

Let's see how the public reacts to this shooting in Orlando and then when Trump lets loose with his campaign against her and the whole corrupt Clinton machine.

No panic here. The change candidate always wins.

Posted by: jwest at June 15, 2016 09:15 AM (Zs4uk)

257 228

Yes. "Sting-Rhonda" is xer name. No, I'm not joking.

Supposedly a dumb joke by Degeneres.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 09:07 AM (nIGPZ)
Why couldn't it have been a tuna fish?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at June 15, 2016 09:15 AM (jxbfJ)

258 A guy like Ron Johnson (I'm in WI) knows he has no chance to win with Trump at the top of the ticket. He's spending a ton of money already on TV ads to try and keep himself in the game but he's down 10 pts in spite of the effort. When it looked like Cruz was going to win WI and could be the nominee, he was in a statistical tie.
-beegs-

Ron Johnson is in trouble in Wi because he was elected in 2010 as a Tea Party conservative, and as part of a wave that promised to thwart Obamas agenda.

He turned out to be just another squish GOPe, who likes the company of Senators and lobbyists.
Just another guy who ran to the front of the parade, said "follow me, boys", and now what? What?

I'll vote for him over having Russ Feingold, but Johnson's been lousy, and his polling may reflect that.

He's no Walker.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 15, 2016 09:15 AM (kKHcp)

259 And number 246 is IMO out of bounds. Come on, Horde...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 15, 2016 09:16 AM (9krrF)

260 Lemme tell ya what's coming up. Two or three weeks ago, a child fell into a gorilla pen and the keepers had to shoot the gorilla to protect the child. Yesterday, and alligator snatched a two year old and ate 'em. Do you know what the common thread is in this. Guns! We must have a new ban to keep them being sold to gorillas and alligators. Of course. we should also ban them from zookeepers. "Never lat a good crisis go to waste!" The motto of libruls and socialists.

Posted by: Old Country Boy at June 15, 2016 09:16 AM (AOwvt)

261
Apropos of absolutely nothing... anyone in the DFW area have a drill press (I have my own Dremmel)?

I'm seriously considering purchasing one of those Polymer80 80/20 lowers, but I don't own a drill press.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:07 AM (kff5f)

If you don't mind taking a drive down to Waxahachie, you're welcome to use mine.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 15, 2016 09:17 AM (tOhFb)

262 "What Ryan, Corker and McConnell exposed themselves to be doing yesterday was to be actively campaigning for one of their own, one of the establishment, Hillary Clinton."

This, exactly.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs_relocating_to_more_rural_area_asap at June 15, 2016 09:17 AM (3X3ZR)

263 Apropos of absolutely nothing... anyone in the DFW area have a drill press (I have my own Dremmel)?>>>

I'm not sure what all needs to be done on the drill press for your project. But if it's mostly for alignment would one of these jigs for a Dremel work?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zj8zb9g

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 15, 2016 09:17 AM (wrS2o)

264 Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:08 AM (7lVbc)

There's a good chance someone is grooming her (the friend) then. Not a guarantee of a bad adult actor, but a high probability.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 15, 2016 09:17 AM (GDulk)

265 Perhaps a purpose built CNC mill would interest you?

Nah. I don't plan on making more than 1 or 2. I can get two 80/20 lowers from Polymer80 for $160.00. Apparently I can get a pack that makes 5 molded 100% lowers from AR15mold.com for about $400 (rough estimate including shipping and any tax).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:17 AM (kff5f)

266 This is largely off topic concerning recent events and it is a few months old but very interesting (to me at least).

So I'm listening to this YouTube video of someone ripping apart Canadian PM Trudeau's speech where he talks about being a feminist. I started to browse through some of the comments and I never realized this before but Justin Trudeau has a real creep factor to him. And by that I mean he's the type of guy you wouldn't leave your young teenage daughter alone with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_6ue_spYQQ

Posted by: Serenity Now! at June 15, 2016 09:17 AM (BDZWU)

267 236 >>A guy like Ron Johnson (I'm in WI) knows he has no chance to win with Trump at the top of the ticket.

Oh, I think Johnson would be struggling no matter who was on top of the ticket.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 09:18 AM (P8951)

268 As I said yesterday, I really think this is a seminal year in history, a turning point like 1776, 1789, 1848, 1968, or 1989.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 09:13 AM (P8951)

The 15th-18th years of almost every Century feature a world-changing event.

1215 - The Magna Carta
1517 - The Protestant Reformation
1618 - The Thirty Years War begins
1815 - The end of the Napoleonic era
1917 - The Communist Revolution
2016-17 is shaping up right on schedule.

Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 09:18 AM (7HtZB)

269
"The parties shall meet and confer to find a date and time for Mr. Pagliano's deposition prior to the close of discovery."

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I keep asking: how is it remotely possible that Team Hillary has not been thoroughly debriefed on Pagliano's remarks to the FBI? He talked under an immunity agreement. I don't care if that agreement requires that Pagliano sew his mouth shut every time he gets within 100 feet of Hillary, her team HAS to have gotten every word out of him. Who the heck is paying his legal bills? Is he even employed right now? Father of two young kids.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 09:18 AM (pC96u)

270 I'm sure Ron Johnson is a superior option to whatever Democrat is nominated; then again, the other senator from Wisconsin is a radical lesbian feminist leftist.

Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 09:18 AM (O7MnT)

271 There's a good chance someone is grooming her (the friend) then. Not a guarantee of a bad adult actor, but a high probability.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 15, 2016 09:17 AM (GDulk)

Oh crap. I didn't even think of that.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (7lVbc)

272 Only 25% of people approve of how Trump has handled Orlando. We are doomed.

Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (xHsw3)

273 I'm late, but I'm with Lauren. Toddlers are ridiculously wily, and then you if you hold firm to them they squirm and sometimes get old and manipulative enough to accuse you of hurting them - because they keep pulling away!

This story is tragic, and then ending will not be so happy as the gorilla one.

Posted by: Lea at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (lIU4e)

274 Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 09:10 AM (C9pBZ)

Got out a week ago. Months before that though my kids' friends who go to public school were cheerfully parroting what they'd been told there.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (GDulk)

275 then coast to coast cames on and a guest was talking
about how interesting trump's name is and that his supporters are
called "trumpets" because something about the end times and hearing
"trumpets"......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 15, 2016 09:00 AM

I wake up early enough to catch the last half hour or so. There's nothing that makes you sit bolt upright at 0430 like some of the cra-cra coming out of that show.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (bzd8I)

276 Drill presses are really handy and "inexpensive". If you need one for a project, I'd consider just getting one of your own.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (q/kmn)

277 259 And number 246 is IMO out of bounds. Come on, Horde...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 15, 2016 09:16 AM (9krrF)

Yeah it is. Not funny - just stupid and disgusting.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (P8951)

278
The 15th-18th years of almost every Century feature a world-changing event.

1215 - The Magna Carta
1517 - The Protestant Reformation
1618 - The Thirty Years War begins
1815 - The end of the Napoleonic era
1917 - The Communist Revolution
2016-17 is shaping up right on schedule.
Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 09:18 AM (7HtZB)
------------------------

Couldn't you do that with any random 3-year span since civilization began? We're a laff riot, we humans.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 09:20 AM (pC96u)

279 I liike Milo; He is a very smart and articulate man. The problem is, (although better phrased by him) is that many gays are not naughty and creatively mischevious anymore. Instead, in their attempt to destroy cultural institutions that stop full allegiance to the state such as the church and the family the left insists that those institutions must accept them in every manner including marriages and the supposed equality of families. This, in turn, is supposed to mean that's there's no difference between a united, loving family with a father and a mother (and please don't hear that as my saying that gays can't be loving and good parents. Of course they can and they are.) I just think it's better for families to be traditional with two parents of opposite gender if possible, because if you don't have that the next thing is that there is no such thing as gender and gender doesn't matter. When the state and the church had more respect and authority it was dangerous to be gay. You could go to jail as did Oscar Wilde. For the most part, unless one is dealing with violent and unbalanced people and Islam what's fundamentally dangerous about being gay in America now? Gay culture has been mainstreamed and as he said "twenty something boo-hooing about their special snowfalkeness' which isn't appreciated is laughable.

Instead, Miol has his speeches cancelled because he's an articulate non violent libertarian with conservative tendencies. It;s the political framework that's considered dangerous by the leftists-not that he's gay.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 15, 2016 09:20 AM (rmw+9)

280 Do you know what the common thread is in this. Guns! We must have a new ban to keep them being sold to gorillas and alligators.

I'm more worried about the gators. Our troops are experienced in dealing with gorilla warfare.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 15, 2016 09:20 AM (9krrF)

281 Omar Mateen was a gay registered Democrat Muslim.... I'll forgive Amanda Marcotte and Al-NYT having a hard time reporting on the fact Omar voted for Obama twice in all likelihood.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 09:20 AM (g8Hfr)

282 Drill presses are really handy and "inexpensive". If you need one for a project, I'd consider just getting one of your own.

Harbor Freight

Posted by: Charly Dont Surf at June 15, 2016 09:21 AM (UhIjG)

283 Orlando has, in the space of a few days, a singer killed by a deranged fan, a terrorist massacre and a toddler killed by a alligator.

Don't think I will be going to Orlando this year.

Posted by: tmitsss at June 15, 2016 09:21 AM (ZYgGF)

284 IllTemperedCurr - Waxahachie isn't too far for me (used to go get season passes to Scarborough Faire every year), so I'll keep that in mind.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 15, 2016 09:17 AM (wrS2o)

The Polymer80 kit comes with a jig, I think, but the reviews I've seen say that a drill press is highly recommended for some of the precision depth stuff you'll need to do.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:21 AM (kff5f)

285 Yes. Sting 'Ray' is in the process of becoming Sting 'Rhonda'. The story is up at WeaselZippers.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2016 09:03 AM (L1Xf4)

This can't be real.

Posted by: Lea at June 15, 2016 09:21 AM (lIU4e)

286 "I'll forgive Amanda Marcotte and Al-NYT having a hard time reporting on the fact Omar voted for Obama twice in all likelihood."

Ten bucks says that he votes for Hillary in the General too.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:22 AM (ptqRm)

287
Only 25% of people approve of how Trump has handled Orlando. We are doomed.
Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (xHsw3)
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Oh god.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 09:22 AM (pC96u)

288 272 Only 25% of people approve of how Trump has handled Orlando.
Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (xHsw3)

That sounds like bullshit to me.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 09:22 AM (P8951)

289 Only 25% of people approve of how Trump has handled Orlando. We are doomed.
Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (xHsw3)

Doctor's calling it. Patient is dead.

RIP 1776-2015

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 15, 2016 09:23 AM (KUaJL)

290 As I said yesterday, I really think this is a seminal year in history, a turning point like 1776, 1789, 1848, 1968, or 1989.

The forces of populism are in revolt against a powerful, corrupt elite that will do anything and tell any lie to preserve their own power. Like 1848 and 1989, there might be a happy ending in some places and a tragic one in others.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 09:13 AM (P8951)

I agree with you absolutely. The hard sell going on for Europe to accept this benign tyranny and GOP leadership finally being exposed as doing the bidding of someone other than the electorate... well sometimes coincidences are too coincidental. We've known for a long time that the Dems were way too uniform for them to be following the wishes of an amorphous constituency, but I think most of us saw the GOP as something different.

Boy were we stupid.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 09:23 AM (4ng05)

291 "Ron Johnson is in trouble in Wi because he was elected in 2010 as a Tea
Party conservative, and as part of a wave that promised to thwart Obamas
agenda. He turned out to be just another squish GOPe, who likes the company of Senators and lobbyists."

See also: AYOTTE, Kelly.

Who is similarly likely to lose.

Two more Senate seats turned back into Democratic hands because the goddamn GOP establishment played this cutesy bait-and-switch crap with their base.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 15, 2016 09:23 AM (noWW6)

292 I wake up early enough to catch the last half hour
or so. There's nothing that makes you sit bolt upright at 0430 like some
of the cra-cra coming out of that show.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (bzd8I)

the ghost ones are the worst

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 15, 2016 09:23 AM (0O7c5)

293 279

Sorry, That came out wrong. Of course the state has authority NOW-lots of it, I meant back when the state considered itself bound to uphold traditional morality because that was good for the society.

I guess Milo gets his dangerous and mischievous side out by critiquing leftist authoritanism. I hoe he has police protection

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 15, 2016 09:24 AM (rmw+9)

294 I don't think they'd have a problem with the
genocidal policies either. What they write about white people is what
anti-semites write about Jews.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2016 08:51 AM (nIGPZ)
There's a fantastic subreddit (I know, I know, reddit) called Stormfront or SJW where they take a random quote from either a Stormfronter or an SJW, remove any language (say "Jews" or "white males") that would identify the speaker as either a Stormfronter or an SJW, and then challenge the reader to figure out whether the speaker is a Stormfronter or an SJW.

It can get very, very difficult to determine which is which.

Posted by: Armando at June 15, 2016 09:24 AM (FwRqg)

295 Of course only 25% approve of Trump post-Orlando: have you seen the reporting?

When you have an electorate that gets all of its news from the FB echo-chamber and the networks, this is the result.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 15, 2016 09:24 AM (q/kmn)

296 275 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (bzd8I)

Art Bell kept me awake....and terrified of idiocy for tens of thousands of miles..

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 09:24 AM (g8Hfr)

297 "the ghost ones are the worst"

Somebody call in to report seeing Buzzion again?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:25 AM (ptqRm)

298 Two more Senate seats turned back into Democratic hands because the goddamn GOP establishment played this cutesy bait-and-switch crap with their base.

When the Republican Party decided that stopping the Tea Party was more important than opposing the Obamacrats, they sealed their fate.

Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 09:25 AM (O7MnT)

299 Only 25% of people approve of how Trump has handled Orlando. We are doomed.>>>

I'm hoping it is that only 25% are brave enough to tell the truth about what they believe. We've been trained for years to walk on eggshells about any non approved message.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 15, 2016 09:25 AM (wrS2o)

300 Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (7lVbc)

She could just be trying to fit in in a society that has made "straight" an insult, but if she is sexually active the chances of it being statutory rape are *really* high.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 15, 2016 09:25 AM (GDulk)

301 Two more Senate seats turned back into Democratic hands because the goddamn GOP establishment played this cutesy bait-and-switch crap with their base.

Everybody blaming Trump for Congressional losses while giving GOPe nickelfuckery a pass can go take a flying leap.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 15, 2016 09:26 AM (9krrF)

302 Only 25% of people approve of how Trump has handled Orlando. We are doomed.
Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (xHsw3)

It was the way the question was asked.

"Do you approve of Trump. . ."

Answer : "NO"

IF the question had been asked differently, there would be a different reaction. But the question was posed in such a way as to produce a desired news item.

Nothing in the news media can be trusted. Nothing.

Posted by: Charly Dont Surf at June 15, 2016 09:26 AM (UhIjG)

303 286 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:22 AM (ptqRm)

The nice thing about being a Jihadist from NYC is you keep voting from paradise.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 09:26 AM (g8Hfr)

304 I've come to the conclusion that country deserves what it gets.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2016 09:26 AM (B48dK)

305 Morning Horde.

Fucking awful what happened to that little boy at the Disney Resort. Made more awful by the fact that it was entirely preventable.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 15, 2016 09:26 AM (gW5Vg)

306 Remember, the MSM frames everything to help the democrats. They have editorial meetings on it, they send emails to their reporters telling them to do it, they belong to closed facebook groups where they discuss how to do it.

So dont believe every shit article/poll you read in the news.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 15, 2016 09:26 AM (iQIUe)

307 Jim Hoff had his youtube account deleted. It seems that they have declared all out war on conservatives in social media.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 15, 2016 09:27 AM (iQIUe)

308 Of course only 25% approve of Trump post-Orlando: have you seen the reporting?

Exactly. Shrillery is being described as "sober" and "calm" while Trump is being described as "incendiary."

Of *COURSE* people are going to support the "sober" "calm" choice - because we've been trained that it's never okay to get angry.

Remember, when someone asks "What would Jesus do?" "Fashion a whip and beat people with it" is among the available options - but no one wants you to think of that one.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:27 AM (kff5f)

309 Paging Beowulf with the banhammer....cleanup on aisle 246.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2016 09:27 AM (bzd8I)

310 I've come to the conclusion that country deserves what it gets.

Yeah. But *I* don't deserve what the country gets.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:28 AM (kff5f)

311 pollster question : " do you approve of Donald Trump's racist reaction to Orlando attack"

answer : "No!"

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2016 09:29 AM (c6/9Q)

312 298
Two more Senate seats turned back into Democratic hands because the
goddamn GOP establishment played this cutesy bait-and-switch crap with
their base.

When the Republican Party decided that stopping the Tea Party was
more important than opposing the Obamacrats, they sealed their fate.

Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 09:25 AM (O7MnT)

^^^^^THISAnd they still haven't learned

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at June 15, 2016 09:29 AM (jxbfJ)

313 "Paging Beowulf with the banhammer....cleanup on aisle 246."

Anybody know how to search hashes to see if it's a regular, with poor taste?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:29 AM (ptqRm)

314 310 Yeah,me either but that's the breaks.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2016 09:29 AM (B48dK)

315
Two more Senate seats turned back into Democratic hands because the goddamn GOP establishment played this cutesy bait-and-switch crap with their base.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 15, 2016 09:23 AM (noWW6)
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Good riddance.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 09:29 AM (pC96u)

316 310 I've come to the conclusion that country deserves what it gets.

Yeah. But *I* don't deserve what the country gets.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:28 AM (kff5f)

Ditto.

Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 09:29 AM (7HtZB)

317 >>Of course only 25% approve of Trump post-Orlando: have you seen the reporting?

So? What did you expect? This is the kind of press we have been getting for decades and you thought Trump was going to change this?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2016 09:30 AM (/tuJf)

318 Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 09:18 AM (7HtZB)

Heh.

Tweeted it
https://twitter.com/votermom/status/743072737040687104

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:30 AM (7lVbc)

319 302
Only 25% of people approve of how Trump has handled Orlando. We are doomed.

Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:19 AM (xHsw3)

It was the way the question was asked.

"Do you approve of Trump. . ."

Answer : "NO"

IF the question had been asked differently, there would be a
different reaction. But the question was posed in such a way as to
produce a desired news item.

Nothing in the news media can be trusted. Nothing.

Posted by: Charly Dont Surf at June 15, 2016 09:26 AM (UhIjG)
Absolutely correct. Anybody studying market research in school knows how you can skew results in how you ask your questions to get the favored result.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at June 15, 2016 09:30 AM (jxbfJ)

320 "Everybody blaming Trump for Congressional losses while giving GOPe nickelfuckery a pass can go take a flying leap.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 15, 2016 09:26 AM (9krrF)"

I heard Haley Barbour being interviewed on the radio and he blamed Ted Cruz shutting down the government for Ken Cuccinelli losing the Governor's race in Virginia.

The thing is that he sounded so sincere I wonder if he believes it.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 09:31 AM (QHgTq)

321 258 A guy like Ron Johnson (I'm in WI) knows he has no chance to win with Trump at the top of the ticket. He's spending a ton of money already on TV ads to try and keep himself in the game but he's down 10 pts in spite of the effort. When it looked like Cruz was going to win WI and could be the nominee, he was in a statistical tie.
-beegs-

Ron Johnson is in trouble in Wi because he was elected in 2010 as a Tea Party conservative, and as part of a wave that promised to thwart Obamas agenda.

He turned out to be just another squish GOPe, who likes the company of Senators and lobbyists.
Just another guy who ran to the front of the parade, said "follow me, boys", and now what? What?

I'll vote for him over having Russ Feingold, but Johnson's been lousy, and his polling may reflect that.

He's no Walker.
--------------------------------------------------------------

I helped out with the Rebecca Bradley WI Supreme Court campaign and the final MU Law Poll came within .01% of our final margin of victory (we won by 4.89%, MU had it 4.9%). That same poll showed Ron Johnson pulling into a tie with Feingold because Cruz looked like a lock to win WI and he could become the GOP nominee. Trump is a gigantic drag on all the down-ballot races.

We were at some of the same events as Ron Johnson and he's a really decent guy, even though he's been a bit disappointing compared to expectations. He's also very honest...he told us that if Cruz could somehow win the nomination, he would narrowly win re-election. But if Trump won, there was nothing he could do and there would have to be a gigantic scandal involving Feingold for him to have a realistic chance. He's a very fatalistic guy.

Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 09:31 AM (cxyn3)

322 313 "Paging Beowulf with the banhammer....cleanup on aisle 246."

Anybody know how to search hashes to see if it's a regular, with poor taste?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:29 AM (ptqRm)

Comes back as Grandpa Jimbo's hash.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 15, 2016 09:31 AM (gW5Vg)

323 >>Yeah. But *I* don't deserve what the country gets.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:28 AM (kff5f)

Well put.

Posted by: General Zod at June 15, 2016 09:31 AM (Bdeb0)

324 Anybody know how to search hashes to see if it's a regular, with poor taste?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:29 AM (ptqRm)

Grandpa Jimbo

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:31 AM (7lVbc)

325 Anybody know how to search hashes to see if it's a regular, with poor taste?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:29 AM

Ctrl F on the browser, I think.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2016 09:31 AM (bzd8I)

326 Why are Republicans talking about guns on TV?

The GOP could easily blame Jihadists inspired by Islam for the mass shooting, yet now they have bought into the progressive narrative and are talking about guns.

Why are we talking about guns at all? The jihadist in this shooting passed all the so called "rigorous" background checks otherwise why did he get a job working as a security for such government agencies as homeland security? Yet now various GOP congressmen, senators, certain people at FOX news, etc. are all talking about guns?

Here is why -

1. They really do believe Islam is just like Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism. None of them have ever picked up the Quran, or even made one attempt to learn about the religion. It is amazing they lecture Obama about how ignorant he is (which is true - Obama is ignorant), but they are no different. How the heck are you going to defeat Jihadism if you have never read, for example, Sura 9 in the Quran? I mean it is all there, the whole Jihadist reason for being.

2. They are easily frightened by leftist, because they went to universities where leftist bullied them into passive and defensive thinking. Many people, like Ace, has pointed out the upper middle class conservative with a education problem. Heck the very word, "Conservative" hints at defensiveness. Hence I am not a conservative anymore, and never will be again.

3. The Republican party prizes free trade, low taxes, cheap labor, and less regulation above all things. This includes the safety of the country, American lives, culture, the constitution, etc. Now trade, low taxes, less regulations are good, but not at the expense of the nation.

So the GOP will sell out other issues, in order to achieve those three things above. The only hills they ever die on are on things like free trade.

Any Republican presidential candidate that does not support those three things above will have to drag a screaming GOP leadership around while also beating off the MSM and Democrat party. Frankly that is almost impossible, hence why it is better this party dies.

All they are doing is slow walking what the Democrats will do in five or ten years. If you see things as I see them, time is the most dangerous factor working against us. The longer this failed drama plays out, the more leftist and their allies will be imported into the country, or rise into positions of power. Thus when this country hits the breaking point, the left will be in a better position strategically to shape the future of the country. The faster that breaking point is reached, the better it will be for our side.

In my view Trump is the last chance to avoid a breaking point (although even that is unlikely). If he loses then we don't have to concern ourselves about leftist supreme courts, or fighting Jihadist in Syria. There won't be a united country anymore for a leftist supreme court to order about, and we will have communist and jihadist fighting us here in America.

A President Paul Ryan, or of his ilk, won't stop any of that. You can't smile and nice talk your way out of this reality.

Posted by: William Eaton at June 15, 2016 09:31 AM (KhJh8)

327 310 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:28 AM (kff5f)

"Deserves got nothin' to do with it"

//Unforgiven

Frankly if by some God given miracle the Brexit wins I may buy a cottage in Jolly Ole' and watch the fun from afar.

The US media and internal security apparatus is trying to convince you that the GOP and NRA are to blame for a Registered Democrat who was a gay Muslim shooting 103 people in a bar.

You think they are gonna walk back from this cognitive dissonance Allen?

You think a group of people capable of lies on this level are going to have gentle hearts with us?

"Good luck"

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 09:31 AM (g8Hfr)

328 306 Remember, the MSM frames everything to help the democrats. They have editorial meetings on it, they send emails to their reporters telling them to do it, they belong to closed facebook groups where they discuss how to do it.

So dont believe every shit article/poll you read in the news.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 15, 2016 09:26 AM (iQIUe)

Yeah. I am surprised that members of the Horde are just accepting that 25% figure at face value.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 09:31 AM (P8951)

329 If it weren't so tragic, it would be hilarious.

The Left always, ALWAYS, responds to these attacks saying teh Gunz!

Apparently, the electorate really is too stupid to live.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 15, 2016 09:32 AM (1ijHg)

330 pollster question : " do you agree with donal trump's controversial statements after the orlando attack ? "

answer : "No !"

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2016 09:32 AM (c6/9Q)

331 Since the majority of people don;'t trust the media, I think it's o.k. to safely assume that the media's report on the reaction to Donald Trump may be inaccurate.
Also, some people are scared to say what they really think because of the danger of being called a bigot' They've had enough of that with Obama.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 15, 2016 09:32 AM (rmw+9)

332 sven,

You mean "Ole Blighty?"

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 15, 2016 09:33 AM (1ijHg)

333 ^^^^^THISAnd they still haven't learned
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at June 15, 2016 09:29 AM (jxbfJ)

Yet those same squishes will be running as "conservatives" in the fall, and who is to say they are not, now that the word has lost all meaning?

Like I said, I'll vote for the asshole (yeah, that include more than one person this fall) because they are marginally better than the alternative, but I won't like it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 15, 2016 09:33 AM (kKHcp)

334 310
I've come to the conclusion that country deserves what it gets.

Yeah. But *I* don't deserve what the country gets.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:28 AM (kff5f)
And that large plot of land in isolated northern Montana is looking better and better every day.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at June 15, 2016 09:33 AM (jxbfJ)

335
Of course only 25% approve of Trump post-Orlando: have you seen the reporting?

When you have an electorate that gets all of its news from the FB echo-chamber and the networks, this is the result.
Posted by: Chupacabra at June 15, 2016 09:24 AM (q/kmn)
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Truth there. Put Trump and Hillary on a stage and see how that argument goes. The percentage may change.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 09:33 AM (pC96u)

336 Anybody know how to search hashes to see if it's a regular, with poor taste?

hash site:ace.mu.nu

I didn't find anything.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 15, 2016 09:34 AM (ZnIt3)

337 You think they are gonna walk back from this cognitive dissonance Allen?

No. Doesn't mean I don't get to complain about it.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at June 15, 2016 09:34 AM (kff5f)

338 Clearly the correct reaction to the Orlando shootings is to fly the pride flag and stack up teddy bears and light candles at the scene.Oh,and outlaw those nasty assault rifle thingies.

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2016 09:34 AM (B48dK)

339 William Eaton,

In other words, they are idiots.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 15, 2016 09:34 AM (1ijHg)

340 Here is basically the difference in approach, and the reactions of the electorate of the last many years (in my weak mind):

Dems: We feel your pain (that was obviously foisted upon you by the evil right and the evil rich) and this is what we will take from the rich to give to you to ease your pain.

Dem electorate: Ok, cool.

GOP: You're not so rich, and in our way of thinking that makes you not so evil. So we're going to prevent the Dems from taking from you to ease the pain of their electorate, because (twinkle in the teeth) we are just like you and unlike those lying Dems, we hear you and we are here to do your bidding (another twinkle).

Republican electorate: Right on goddammit! Long live the Republic!

It's hard to see who were the biggest dupes.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 09:34 AM (4ng05)

341 But if Trump won, there was nothing he could do and
there would have to be a gigantic scandal involving Feingold for him to
have a realistic chance. He's a very fatalistic guy.

Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 09:31 AM (cxyn3)

sounds like he needs to "man up"

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2016 09:34 AM (c6/9Q)

342 Do you think the FBI would be concerned if I informed them that I'm being terrorized by the cost of Obamacare?

Posted by: Fritz at June 15, 2016 09:35 AM (UzPAd)

343
hash site:ace.mu.nu

I didn't find anything.
Posted by: Lice Wags at June 15, 2016 09:34 AM (ZnIt3

Wrong site

Hash acecomments.mu.nu

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:35 AM (7lVbc)

344 Since the majority of people don;'t trust the media, I think it's o.k. to safely assume that the media's report on the reaction to Donald Trump may be inaccurate.

OTOH; if everybody in a bar is telling you you've had too much to drink, maybe it's time to go home.

Again, I think it's hazardous to scoff at polls that don't reaffirm biases. Maybe the poll is skewed, but maybe there's something the Trump campaign can learn from bad polling data that could help them.

Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 09:35 AM (O7MnT)

345 President Obama gets net positive ratings for his response to the shooting in Orlando. 44 percent approve, while 34 percent disapprove. About a quarter don't have an opinion. When asked to assess the responses of the presumptive nominees for President, Americans are divided on Hillary Clinton's response to the attack, while ratings of Trump are more negative. 51 percent of Americans disapprove of the way Trump is responding to the Orlando attack, while just 25 percent approve. Most Democrats (62 percent) approve of Clinton's response, while just half of Republicans (50 percent) approve of Trump's. More independents are critical of Trump's response than Clinton's. Trump recently reiterated his support for temporarily banning Muslims from entering the United States, but most Americans don't support this. 62 percent think the US should not temporarily ban Muslims from entering the country, while 31 percent think the US should do so.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 15, 2016 09:35 AM (ZnIt3)

346 307 Jim Hoff had his youtube account deleted. It seems that they have declared all out war on conservatives in social media.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 15, 2016 09:27 AM (iQIUe)

Well, Hoft just came out as gay. I guess he's now another "dangerous faggot." I can understand why the media would be especially eager to shut up gay conservatives right now.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 09:35 AM (P8951)

347 I don't believe I said I expected anything different, jackstraw? Just pointing out the whys.

Most of us don't deserve to get saddled with this stupid bullshit. But life is not fair, and anyone that tells you different is trying to sell you something.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 15, 2016 09:36 AM (q/kmn)

348 I didn't find anything.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 15, 2016 09:34 AM (ZnIt3)

it was a regular

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 15, 2016 09:36 AM (0O7c5)

349 I also think we're boned, but was that 25% in reaction to Trump's speech on Monday, or on his initial tweet after the Orlando attack, where he made it all about him being right about the attack, rather than about the victims of the attack?

Just trying to find some little ray of hope here.

Posted by: josephistan at June 15, 2016 09:36 AM (7HtZB)

350 311 pollster question : " do you approve of Donald Trump's ~~racist~~ reaction to Orlando attack"

answer : ~~"No"~~ Yes.

What race is muzzie?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 09:36 AM (wXHOL)

351 I don't care about the polls because nothing will make me not vote for Trump at this point.
GOPE must die.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:37 AM (7lVbc)

352 Ray of Hope:

Only 51% disapprove.

Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:37 AM (xHsw3)

353 Most of the dolts out there buy the "religion of peace" bullshit,or at the very least are more afraid of appearing bigotted than terrorism.Just like Europe!

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2016 09:37 AM (B48dK)

354
I've come to the conclusion that country deserves what it gets.

I came to that conclusion years ago.

J.J. thinks we need a Pinochet. I think we need a full-fledged Argentinian "dirty war." The only problem is that I know I'll be swept up in the terror along with the treasonous bastards who deserve a one-way flight over the Bering Sea.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2016 09:37 AM (X6fMO)

355 I cannot believe that some are doing the same "it's the way the question was asked" or "the poll is rigged" or "there were all democrats sampled!"

C'mon, didn't 2012 teach you guys anything?

The results on Orlando are very believable. Obama has a very high job approval on all polls now, so he's going to get good marks here, too. Hillary is only +2 on the question, which isn't that strong, and shows her weakness. Trump, of course, couldn't just tweet out about Radical Islam (he's right on that), he had to make it all about him being right "look at me, I told you so, I was right." It was a tone-deaf response, and once again, shows him doing something a candidate would do only if he were trying purposely to lose.

Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 09:38 AM (cxyn3)

356
This is the kind of press we have been getting for decades and you thought Trump was going to change this?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2016 09:30 AM (/tuJf)
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I'm glad he yanked the WaPo's credentials. Even the Powerline mannequins agreed with that.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 09:39 AM (pC96u)

357 Wormtongue, go away.

Posted by: Charly Dont Surf at June 15, 2016 09:39 AM (UhIjG)

358 Morning all.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 15, 2016 09:39 AM (WuRdh)

359 Beegs, lets pretend the polls are right and true. So the f what? You gonna vote for Hillary?
Quit your crying and man up.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:39 AM (7lVbc)

360 I agree with Lauren about the "I'm a perfect parent" crap. I think it's worst from our governmental betters. I guarantee you that right now on top of the suffering of having lost a child in this horrific way, the parents are suffering the indignity of a CPS investigation while some 23 year old child-less "investigator" is trying to determine whether their other children suffer from neglectful supervision and ought to be removed from their custody. Because helping children.

Posted by: Sambo at June 15, 2016 09:40 AM (CwNIZ)

361 The NEA must be so proud. The Teacher Unions have succeeded in creating an electorate of dumbshits.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at June 15, 2016 09:40 AM (1ijHg)

362 Doesn't help that Paul Ryan et al came out to denounce trump and suck off Islam.

Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:40 AM (xHsw3)

363 Quit your crying and man up.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:39 AM (7lVbc)

Seriously? He gave a reasoned argument and this is your response?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 15, 2016 09:40 AM (gW5Vg)

364 Maybe, in the days after an attack, the candidate should go all flag lowering, candlelight vigil, and empty platitudes.

The truth can annoy the hell out of some people, if you rub their nose in it.

In fact, though I didn't openly state it here, I was hoping DT kept his mouth quiet for a few days. No need to spike the football and chest bump. In the face of tragedy it appears a little unseemly.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 15, 2016 09:41 AM (ZnIt3)

365 359 Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:39 AM (7lVbc)

Frankly the logical response to this level of media power is something that would put me at a Starbuck's drinking lattes with Diogenes Lamp I guess....

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 09:41 AM (g8Hfr)

366 Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 09:35 AM (O7MnT)

I don't like Trump. I think he's a blowhard braggart who frequently puts his foot in his mouth (and almost everybody knows that I will vote for him against Hillary) so certainly he has things to learn. but I still think the way questions are posed are loaded and media coverage is inaccurate.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 15, 2016 09:42 AM (rmw+9)

367
Trump, of course, couldn't just tweet out about Radical Islam (he's right on that), he had to make it all about him being right "look at me, I told you so, I was right." It was a tone-deaf response, and once again, shows him doing something a candidate would do only if he were trying purposely to lose.
Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 09:38 AM (cxyn3)
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Ohhhh, so the 25% was about the tweet, not his speech.

Yeah, I can just see that question. "Do you approve of Donald Trump's self-congratulatory, self-centered, I-told-you-so, in-your-face statement after the horrid tragedy of Orlando?"

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 09:42 AM (pC96u)

368 307 Jim Hoff had his youtube account deleted. It seems that they have declared all out war on conservatives in social media.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 15, 2016 09:27 AM (iQIUe)

Pam Geller had her account that had been there for years deleted from Facebook.

I'll ask this again: How are anti-free speech terms of service different from someone not baking a cake.

I realize that at times I have a hard time connecting dots, but I see no significant different from the two.

If someone can be sued to the point of losing their livelihood, why can't social media be sued for this shit as well?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 09:42 AM (4ng05)

369 So if I finish an 80% polymer lower, how much would it cost me to assemble a basic black rifle?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 15, 2016 09:42 AM (ZEzaq)

370 The results on Orlando are very believable. Obama
has a very high job approval on all polls now, so he's going to get good
marks here, too. Hillary is only +2 on the question, which isn't that
strong, and shows her weakness. Trump, of course, couldn't just tweet
out about Radical Islam (he's right on that), he had to make it all
about him being right "look at me, I told you so, I was right." It was a
tone-deaf response, and once again, shows him doing something a
candidate would do only if he were trying purposely to lose.

Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 09:38 AM (cxyn3)
yeah, which lying media organization are you glued to there, buddy ? Trump never tweeted "look at me". thanks for delivering democrat talking points, though. i'm sure someone appreciates it biggly.

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2016 09:42 AM (c6/9Q)

371 " a bit of a disappointment compared to expectations..."
-beeg-

Way to undersell there.
He has had 6 years to either bolster or diminish his conservative credibility.

He chose poorly.

Wisconsin elected Walker 3 times, and voted for the last standing conservative in the primary this spring.
Johnson made the calculation that moving to the left would help him, and now reaps the reward of tepid support.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 15, 2016 09:42 AM (kKHcp)

372
353 .......or at
the very least are more afraid of appearing bigotted....

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2016 09:37 AM (B48dK)
That sums it up perfectly. We all have been told how evil and wrong hatred/bigotry/discrimination is for the last decade +. We are now so afraid of being labeled as such that we will gladly lay (bow) down before our "betters" and accept whatever tripe they spew and go along with the crowd.The emasculation is now complete.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at June 15, 2016 09:43 AM (jxbfJ)

373
#BattleoftheThames

http://goo.gl/0P57wG

Bob Geldorf, a "remain" takes on a flotilla of Brexit. There are also reports of the people on Geldorf's boat slagging on british fisherman which has pissed people off.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 15, 2016 09:43 AM (iQIUe)

374 >>Most of us don't deserve to get saddled with this stupid bullshit. But life is not fair, and anyone that tells you different is trying to sell you something.

I don't like it anymore than you or anyone else here but those of us who weren't sold on Trump specifically because this is how we saw things unfolding weren't the enemy.

Trump has raised almost no money and is relying on the RNC for fundraising. He has virtually no ground game and has said he will outsource that to the RNC. He is getting beat by a woman every sentient being understands is a multiple felon and someone who put the nations security at risk.

I don't deserve this shit either but the idea that Trump was going to revolutionize the way we elect presidents with his Truth Talking was always nonsense.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2016 09:43 AM (/tuJf)

375 I cannot believe that some are doing the same "it's the way the question was asked" or "the poll is rigged" or "there were all democrats sampled!"

C'mon, didn't 2012 teach you guys anything?

SMDH.

Posted by: V the K at June 15, 2016 09:43 AM (O7MnT)

376 Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 09:42 AM (4ng05)

Because you're a h8r and they're in favor of diversity and progress.

They'll use different words, but this is a good distillation of the argument.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 15, 2016 09:43 AM (KUaJL)

377 363 Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 15, 2016 09:40 AM (gW5Vg)

The election is a binary or trinary event.

You will either vote for Orange Toupee Weasel, Grammy H Depends Jockey, or "Dumbass Number Three" whichever third dumbass you choose.

Nothing on this Earth short of Trump breaking out into Horst Wesel Lied will have me vote for options 2 or 3.

The rest is noise.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 09:43 AM (g8Hfr)

378 Seriously? He gave a reasoned argument and this is your response?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 15, 2016 09:40 AM (gW5Vg)

I have no patience with chicken littles this morning.
Is there anything you and I can do to change polls? They never even poll me.
All this panic panic panic frankly reeks of soviet-style mindgames.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:44 AM (7lVbc)

379
I was hoping DT kept his mouth quiet for a few days. No need to spike the football and chest bump. In the face of tragedy it appears a little unseemly.
Posted by: Lice Wags at June 15, 2016 09:41 AM (ZnIt3)
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He had scheduled a speech for Monday and he gave it. I don't see what was wrong with naming radical Islam and discussing its lethal effects throughout America and the world.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 09:44 AM (pC96u)

380 J.J. thinks we need a Pinochet. I think we need a full-fledged Argentinian "dirty war." The only problem is that I know I'll be swept up in the terror along with the treasonous bastards who deserve a one-way flight over the Bering Sea.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Yeah...I can see something coming. Not very happy about having it pop loose while I'm looking after Dad, otherwise I'd point myself elsewhere and start digging in.

As for a "dirty war", page me when you've figured out how to keep "outside interests" from interfering.

We. Are. So. Totally. Frakked.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 15, 2016 09:44 AM (9krrF)

381 Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 09:31 AM (QHgTq)

Which is ironic because Cuccinelli doesn't blame Cruz and was one of the heads of Cruz's Prsidential campaign.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 15, 2016 09:44 AM (mmU7u)

382 @Cloyd Freud

You can get a very nice rifle build kit from Palmetto State starting at $540 that has everything but the lower.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 15, 2016 09:45 AM (q/kmn)

383 "Doesn't help that Paul Ryan et al came out to denounce trump and suck off Islam."

NTTAWRT

Posted by: Bitch McConnell with an Islamist Dick in His Mouth at June 15, 2016 09:46 AM (ZEzaq)

384 FT has an interesting article (via Drudge) saying the FBI is both swamped by thousands of terror investigations and limited by free speech rights in what it can do. The Orlando ISIS guy, for example, was "a law abiding citizen" right "up until 2 am Sunday".

http://tinyurl.com/j857uwu

Well, no he wasn't. He was a terrorist engaged in planning a mass murder, assisted by his wife and unknown others.

I'm sick of hearing "how could they have possibly known???". The government is willfully blinding itself from considering Islamist associates and practices as precursors to violence. DHS said just yesterday that they consider righties as equal in threat to Jihadists, against all reason and experience.

Ideology is the problem, and excusing the FBI because it pays lip service to the President's inanity should not happen.

Clearly, Omar was a terrorist and not a "law abiding citizen".

The FBI had been informed of his threatening behavior and language. They failed the people of Orlando and all those young people at Pulse paid the price for that failure.

Posted by: MTF at June 15, 2016 09:46 AM (/m8T6)

385 To most telephone poll takers, I am a 28 year old black lesbian, college educated mother of two.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:46 AM (ptqRm)

386 Trump, of course, couldn't just tweet out about Radical Islam (he's right on that), he had to make it all about him being right "look at me, I told you so, I was right." It was a tone-deaf response, and once again, shows him doing something a candidate would do only if he were trying purposely to lose.
Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 09:38 AM (cxyn3)

So Trump said he was right? BFD.
I'm right about it also. He's not the only one that called it.

And I have no problem about rubbing people's noses in it like a puppy who peed on the carpet.

Next time a muzzie shoots, blows up, or cuts someone's head off, I don't care to hear about the handwringing.

Because everyone has been warned. Repeatedly. Don't want to learn from it, then own it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 09:47 AM (wXHOL)

387 "Ohhhh, so the 25% was about the tweet, not his speech.

"

Just his response in general. But people looooved them some Obama response. So I give up. The country can't be saved.

Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:47 AM (xHsw3)

388 369 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 15, 2016 09:42 AM (ZEzaq)

Depends on what you do for a trigger.

Say 39.95-65 bucks or a lower parts kit....

350 bucks to 1200 bucks for an upper....

If you are looking for a basic "oh fuck" get me another rifle rifle for SHTF situations you can finish it for ~450 bucks.

*or* you can buy a build kit...

http://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-15-05/rifle-kits.html

~550-600 bucks not on sale

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 09:47 AM (g8Hfr)

389 Top.Men.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/236329/

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2016 09:48 AM (B48dK)

390 Alea iacta est.
The die is cast.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:48 AM (7lVbc)

391 "369
So if I finish an 80% polymer lower, how much would it cost me to assemble a basic black rifle?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 15, 2016 09:42 AM (ZEzaq)"

It depends.

Once you have a lower you will need to buy a parts kit and an upper. You can google for those prices. I can't tell you the cheapest you can do but there is essentially no upper limit.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 09:48 AM (QHgTq)

392 President Obama gets net positive ratings for his response to the shooting in Orlando. 44 percent approve, while 34 percent disapprove. About a quarter don't have an opinion. When asked to assess the responses of the presumptive nominees for President, Americans are divided on Hillary Clinton's response to the attack, while ratings of Trump are more negative. 51 percent of Americans disapprove of the way Trump is responding to the Orlando attack, while just 25 percent approve. Most Democrats (62 percent) approve of Clinton's response, while just half of Republicans (50 percent) approve of Trump's. More independents are critical of Trump's response than Clinton's. Trump recently reiterated his support for temporarily banning Muslims from entering the United States, but most Americans don't support this. 62 percent think the US should not temporarily ban Muslims from entering the country, while 31 percent think the US should do so.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 15, 2016 09:35 AM (ZnIt3)

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1. Many British liked Chamberlain's agreement with Hitler when it happened. It stopped war! Only afterwards did they change their mind. Polls are like that...

2. Islam preaches what it preaches. You cannot change the truth. The Quran is clear and Muslims believe it is the word of god, 100% The more Muslims you let in, the higher the numbers of mass slaughters of infidels will take place. That is a fact of life. If Trump is to be condemned it is for telling the truth. I guess many more Americans will have to die to learn that truth.

Posted by: William Eaton at June 15, 2016 09:48 AM (KhJh8)

393 Sorry Cloyd Freud my pricing was wrong, they actually start at $490.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 15, 2016 09:48 AM (q/kmn)

394 I don't like Trump. I think he's a blowhard braggart who frequently puts his foot in his mouth (and almost everybody knows that I will vote for him against Hillary) so certainly he has things to learn. but I still think the way questions are posed are loaded and media coverage is inaccurate.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 15, 2016 09:42 AM (rmw+9)

I've never been convinced that Trump was "the right person for the job" either.

That said, I think it would be unwise to underestimate him too terribly much. To give credit to his opponents in the primaries for running shitty campaigns thus causing Trump to win by default, is a bit ingenuous (no disrespect) I think.

Trump won as much as they lost and he did it by (again my opinion) by saying what people either wanted, or felt they needed, to hear.

This scene has not played out yet and Trump is not, me thinks, the idiot that people make him out to be.

The fat lady's taxi hasn't even picked her up from her house yet.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 09:48 AM (4ng05)

395 And here's why:

"Most Democrats (62 percent) approve of Clinton's response, while just half of Republicans (50 percent) approve of Trump's. "

Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:48 AM (xHsw3)

396 We are in the middle of a psychological warfare operation that goes well beyond marketing and packaging.

After being bombarded by non stop advertising, we should be, at least somewhat, immune to the tricks advertising plays with your mind. (Thing Used Car Salesman. Or street corner scam artist.)

Then factor in the magic of large numbers. We have some 160 million voters, some of whom can be persuaded, some are fanatical true believers, some are brain washed robots, and we have Obama; schooled in the mind control rhetoric of Ward Churchill, and Saul Alinsky, and the Franklin School.

Add in machine politics at the local level and vote fraud, and here we are.

So what are we going to do about it? Nothing.
Nothing but hope for the best.

Posted by: Charly Dont Surf at June 15, 2016 09:48 AM (UhIjG)

397 382 @Cloyd Freud
You can get a very nice rifle build kit from Palmetto State starting at $540 that has everything but the lower.
Posted by: Chupacabra at June 15, 2016 09:45 AM (q/kmn)

Thanks. I'm going to have to give that some thought.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 15, 2016 09:49 AM (ZEzaq)

398 Yeah...I can see something coming. Not very happy about having it pop loose while I'm looking after Dad, otherwise I'd point myself elsewhere and start digging in.

As for a "dirty war", page me when you've figured out how to keep "outside interests" from interfering.

Page me when I can fuck shit up and not go to jail for it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 09:49 AM (wXHOL)

399 To bad that gator didn't get the Pulse Shooter when he was scouting Disney.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 15, 2016 09:49 AM (O0lVq)

400 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 15, 2016 09:42 AM (rmw+9)

While I agree that poll questions can be designed to mislead, I don't buy the idea that people answer the way they do because they're afraid of being calling a bigot.

They're afraid of an anonymous pollster?

I've worked the phones for political campaigns. (When I was young, I actually did so for Democrats.) I lasted two weeks in college working for a telemarketing company.

It was my experience that people are not at all afraid of expressing themselves in the strongest terms to anonymous callers. I was called all sorts of things by both Ds and Rs. Do you care what a telemarketer or pollster thinks of you when they call? You'll never see this person face to face.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 09:50 AM (P8951)

401 Ash from The Evil Dead was a loud-mouthed braggart, too.

Just sayin'...

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 15, 2016 09:51 AM (q/kmn)

402 As Rumsfeld would say, you go to.war with the Trump you have.
Something like that.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:51 AM (7lVbc)

403 I took note of Trump's initial tweet and refrained from commenting on it at the time but it seems the Left saw in that tweet what they refuse to see in Obama. Too many I's.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 15, 2016 09:51 AM (mmU7u)

404 �He had scheduled a speech for Monday and he gave it.

Yeah, I know. Scheduled beforehand.

I don't see what was wrong with naming radical Islam and discussing its lethal effects throughout America and the world.

Once again, I know. Something isn't clicking though.

I need a hit of refreshing news from Dave in Florida.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 15, 2016 09:52 AM (ZnIt3)

405 397 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 15, 2016 09:49 AM (ZEzaq)

If you are going Polymer anyway somne have been inspired to use Polymer uppers...

the drawback there is from what I have gathered stress when doing barrel changes eventually ruining the upper.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 09:52 AM (g8Hfr)

406 Because you're a h8r and they're in favor of diversity and progress.

They'll use different words, but this is a good distillation of the argument.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 15, 2016 09:43 AM (KUaJL)

I gotta give them that. Got me there.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 09:52 AM (4ng05)

407 When a Pollster calls, just ask: Do you mind if I record this call for quality control purposes?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:52 AM (ptqRm)

408
if republican "leaders" are disapproving of Trump en masse what can possibly be said of their followers . paul ryan is such a pantywaist

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2016 09:52 AM (c6/9Q)

409 SpaceX webcasts will be starting shortly.

Hosted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLNmtUEvI5A

Technical:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjP8stlzxI

Launch is set for 10:29 am EDT. The webcasts usually start about 20 minutes before.

Posted by: rickl at June 15, 2016 09:52 AM (zoehZ)

410
(((British Toy))) @WelshToy

The millionaire anti poverty activist Geldof is currently involved in a flotilla-off against trawlermen who can earn less than the min wage.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 15, 2016 09:52 AM (iQIUe)

411 Poke Salad Annie
The gator got your grannie (chomp chomp)
Everybody said it was a shame
That your momma was workin' on a chain gang
(A mean, spiteful, straight razor totin' woman)

Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2016 09:52 AM (JBggj)

412 And as much as it pains me, I'll be very surprised if the Cubs aren't in the Series this year.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2016 08:27 AM (/tuJf)

If that happens, the next event is the appearance of the Four Horseman.
Posted by: grammie winger at June 15, 2016 08:32 AM (dFi94)

As a long suffering Cubs fan people ask me, What is the first thing you'll do if the Cubs win the Series. My answer, Head to the nearest confessional and make my peace with God because the world is ending very soon

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 15, 2016 09:52 AM (493sH)

413 359 Beegs, lets pretend the polls are right and true. So the f what? You gonna vote for Hillary?
Quit your crying and man up.
--------------------------------------------------------------

I'll vote for Trump but I would much rather have him dumped at the convention, so Hillary just can't coast to an easy victory.

That tweet after the attack where he tried to personally grandstand instead of just showing sympathy for the victims showed he's not serious about any of this. He's doing nearly exactly what a candidate would do to try and sabotage his own chances.

My own opinion is that Trump never thought he could win the nomination. He figured he might get second or third and build his brand some more, but then the media smelled blood and propped him up so much that he ended up winning. Anyone who didn't realize the media wanted him to win the primary so they could destroy him in the general just hasn't been paying attention to politics for long.

I just can't figure out why Trump, once it became apparent he would win the nomination, didn't take it seriously and build a good campaign apparatus/ground game/fundraising network, if he wasn't just a Dem plant trying to screw with the GOP.

Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 09:52 AM (cxyn3)

414 395 Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:48 AM (xHsw3)

SHHHH we're not supposed to point out that the Butthurt Brigades are in fact driving this horsefuckery.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 09:53 AM (g8Hfr)

415 @mrp

Tony Joe White has a new album out, and it's very good. Just FYI.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 15, 2016 09:53 AM (q/kmn)

416
people looooved them some Obama response. So I give up. The country can't be saved.
Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:47 AM (xHsw3)
--------------------

Well then fuckit. As Rush said, there's no "unity" or "compromise" with those people. They simply have to be overruled.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 09:53 AM (pC96u)

417 Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 09:50 AM (P8951)

I wouldn't be afraid to say what I think to a pollster, but I think the climate has changed during the last eight years.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 15, 2016 09:54 AM (rmw+9)

418 Page me when I can fuck shit up and not go to jail for it.

Join #BLM or "Black Bloc".

Me, I'd love to be able to stock up and figure out how to make myself warlord of some pleasant, out-of-the way corner to live out my remaining years in (relative) peace and (slight) comfort (on a well upholstered throne of skulls). But fate seems to have other ideas, alas, and that throne's likely to have my bones in it rather than on it, alas.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 15, 2016 09:54 AM (9krrF)

419
Page me when I can fuck shit up and not go to jail for it.

What's your skin tone?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2016 09:54 AM (X6fMO)

420 Doctor's calling it. Patient is dead.

RIP 1776-2015

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 15, 2016 09:23 AM (KUaJL)

I don't think a Trump defeat in November will signify the end of the Republic. It will, however, signify the collapse of the Republican Big Tent and the beginning of a third-party split. The victorious Democrats under Hillary will move forward with an authoritarian socialist agenda. Those resistant to the agenda will coalesce around another, neweropposition party or movement.

Years from now, they'll make an epicmovie of this whole era. It'll be a black comedy directed by Quentin Tarentino, with lots of violence and a few cheap laughs.

Posted by: troyriser at June 15, 2016 09:55 AM (UWlp+)

421 399 To bad that gator didn't get the Pulse Shooter when he was scouting Disney.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 15, 2016 09:49 AM (O0lVq)

Now that's a pleasant and funny thought right there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 15, 2016 09:56 AM (gW5Vg)

422 For those of us with Sportsman's Guide memberships, and a need for additional 9mm FMJ...

http://tinyurl.com/h6omfrk

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:56 AM (ptqRm)

423
I'll vote for Trump but I would much rather have him dumped at The convention, so Hillary just can't coast to an easy victory.

--

I see.
That's pretty much political seppuku for the GOP if they do that.
I'm amazed you don't realize that.
If they do do it, it will be because they want to lose to Hillary.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:56 AM (7lVbc)

424
I always read about these little old ladies sitting reading in their lawn chairs near a river and being attacked by gators. And then there are the poor little dogs. Some woman managed to rescue her dog from the mouth of a gator.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 15, 2016 09:56 AM (iQIUe)

425
I can't even stay on one side of this 25% argument. Off to breakfast. See you on the art thread.

Posted by: iforgot (NeverTrumpers, avert eyes) at June 15, 2016 09:57 AM (pC96u)

426 "the drawback there is from what I have gathered stress when doing barrel changes eventually ruining the upper.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 09:52 AM (g8Hfr)"

How often do you change barrels?

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 09:57 AM (QHgTq)

427
scott walker is no better then ryan; when he needed trump's money he just loved everything about him; when his little ego got hurt, he went full-on terminator on trump. another pantywaist.

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2016 09:57 AM (c6/9Q)

428 what can possibly be said of their followers

Well, we know they disapprove of us as well. And have no problem using the same inflammatory rhetoric as the left. That was a real eye-opener for me. I had gotten used to it from Libertarian "allies", but was shocked when so many of the pundits finally said what they *really* thought of their readers.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 15, 2016 09:57 AM (GDulk)

429 401 Ash from The Evil Dead was a loud-mouthed braggart, too.

Just sayin'...
Posted by: Chupacabra at June 15, 2016 09:51 AM (q/kmn)

Yeah, but he had a boomstick.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 15, 2016 09:57 AM (0mRoj)

430 420 Posted by: troyriser at June 15, 2016 09:55 AM (UWlp+)

I'm certain we'll have time to watch it between our five times a day state mandated prayer breaks.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 09:57 AM (g8Hfr)

431 Just his response in general. But people looooved them some Obama response. So I give up. The country can't be saved.

Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 09:47 AM (xHsw3)

It's the same brainless crowd who is utterly clueless about everything and spouts idiotic nonsense like they're hate can't kill our love. No but it can but it can kill you. No matter what happens they will continue to deny the reality that is staring them in the face and and putting them in body bags.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 15, 2016 09:57 AM (493sH)

432 "How often do you change barrels?"

About like underwear.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:57 AM (ptqRm)

433 You can fuck shit up, just blame it on that asshole Johnson.

Posted by: Chupacabra at June 15, 2016 09:58 AM (q/kmn)

434 428 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 15, 2016 09:57 AM (GDulk)

Quite.

Win or lose one nice thing is NRO will wind up in the same toilet as NewsWeak...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 09:58 AM (g8Hfr)

435 Art is here.

NOOD

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 09:59 AM (ptqRm)

436 I see.
That's pretty much political seppuku for the GOP if they do that.
I'm amazed you don't realize that.
If they do do it, it will be because they want to lose to Hillary.
Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 09:56 AM (7lVbc)

============
Oh, I think many do want to lose. They think it will open the race for them to run i 2020. It's pure greed and self interest on their part.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 15, 2016 09:59 AM (iQIUe)

437 "How often do you change barrels?"

About like underwear.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Monthly doesn't seem that bad...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 15, 2016 10:00 AM (9krrF)

438 I can't say for sure but I assume Disney had gator warning signs all around that body of water. It's bad enough to lose a two year old but the manner in which he was lost and the guilt that will be involved will be over whelming. I can't imagine.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 15, 2016 10:00 AM (mmU7u)

439 Eleven muzzie countries have enshrined in law that homosexuals can be put to death.

This is not just a reflection of abhorrent, oppressive, inhuman political regimes.

This is a reflection of Islam. These are ISLAMIC abhorrent, oppressive, inhuman political regimes.

But on the other hand, it may be that Trump is totally off base.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 10:00 AM (4ng05)

440
Florida: where most of the flora and fauna will try to bite you, stab you, sting you, or eat you.

And if you're very very lucky, it'll happen in that order.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at June 15, 2016 10:00 AM (1hM1d)

441 No matter what happens they will continue to deny the reality that is staring them in the face and and putting them in body bags.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 15, 2016 09:57 AM (493sH)

But it's so much easier and nicer to hold candles and build memorials and say "Love Trumps Hate!"

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at June 15, 2016 10:00 AM (P8951)

442
That said, I think it would be unwise to underestimate him too terribly much. To give credit to his opponents in the primaries for running shitty campaigns thus causing Trump to win by default, is a bit ingenuous (no disrespect) I think.

Trump won as much as they lost and he did it by (again my opinion) by saying what people either wanted, or felt they needed, to hear.
------------------------------------------------------------

Trump hit a home run with that first "build a wall" immigration speech and I was pretty impressed immediately after. I became far less impressed when he later came out in favor of planned parenthood, and against the NC bathroom bill. He's certainly no conservative and is probably a moderate democrat in reality.

Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 10:00 AM (cxyn3)

443 #415

Thanks for the heads up, Chup!

Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2016 10:01 AM (JBggj)

444 Nood art

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2016 10:01 AM (B48dK)

445 Thank god for Trump...

It's times like these that show it's going to take someone like Trump to drag the losers, wimps and idiots we have in congressional and senatorial offices across the finish line in the next election.

There a about 4 and half lifetimes until the election. Nobody is going to remember Orlando, the Mexican judge, or anything else that's going on this week in November.

Trump will pull some big things off between now and then, just because he's Trump.

Among those things, will be a play for black, Hispanic and now gay votes. He'll do it by attacking the democrats for using these minorities like slaves and migrants.

He can do this because he has absolutely nothing to lose.

No, he won't win a majority of these groups just now, but he will win enough to win the election.

Posted by: jwest at June 15, 2016 10:01 AM (Zs4uk)

446 Nope Joe. Not a single gator warning sign.

They have signs that say no swimming, but they absolutely allow people to walk on the shore line with their feet in the water, which is what the family was doing.

Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 10:01 AM (xHsw3)

447 "Monthly doesn't seem that bad..."

Hey, let's not go all crazy here!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 10:01 AM (ptqRm)

448 >>I heard Haley Barbour being interviewed on the radio
and he blamed Ted Cruz shutting down the government for Ken Cuccinelli
losing the Governor's race in Virginia. Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 09:31 AM (QHgTq)

Cuccinelli lost to the guy who bragged that he attended a fundraiser while his wife was in the hospital giving birth. To Hillary's bagman. To the guy whose choice as AG, Hering, was inspired idiocy.

Cuccinelli didn't lose because the gummint closed. He lost because he was a terrible red candidate in a blue state that has a state GOP--I'm looking at you, Obenshain, you fool--that defines kalistocracy. And because he doubled down on McConnell's stupidity by not giving back $18k worth of gifts--by the same fixer--until the last minute. And because he didn't campaign in NoVa. And because E.W. Jackson was his running mate, and E.W. Jackson is just stone crazy.

Posted by: General Zod at June 15, 2016 10:02 AM (Bdeb0)

449 BTW - Two of these Islamic countries mentioned in my previous comment are Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Saudi Arabia we have excused and enabled since WWII. Iran we are just beginning to enable.

So yeah. Something for us to take pride in.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 15, 2016 10:02 AM (4ng05)

450 Page me when I can fuck shit up and not go to jail for it.

I think one of the problems we have today is we no longer drink from the skulls of our enemies

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at June 15, 2016 10:03 AM (jxbfJ)

451 Polls right now aren't intended to report. They are intended to shape a narrative.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 15, 2016 10:03 AM (PFy0L)

452 Florida: where most of the flora and fauna will try to bite you, stab you, sting you, or eat you.

And if you're very very lucky, it'll happen in that order.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie

So it's a swampy training ground for Australia, then.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 15, 2016 10:03 AM (9krrF)

453 Posted by: runner at June 15, 2016 09:57 AM (c6/9Q)

that is just silly.
You're obviously not from Wi.
Walker and the Wi GOP withstood quite a bit for a few years, and stood firm.

If your opinion of him begins and ends with how he treats Trump, that say more of you than it does of him.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 15, 2016 10:04 AM (kKHcp)

454 "And if you're very very lucky, it'll happen in that order. "

Florida has Reavers?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2016 10:04 AM (ptqRm)

455 426 Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 09:57 AM (QHgTq)

It depends on how often you shoot it and what level of accuracy you seek.

Look what is the rifle for?

If you want a defense weapon and you plan on putting 30 shots through it a year to test the sights and besides that it is stored in a handy place I'd say go for a Polymer build.

Polymer never rusts, is light and stores well.

If you are going to be precision shooting several times a week killing Varmints spend the extra money make a 20-24" rifle and put a giselle trigger on her etc etc.

If you are buying it for personal defense in case it all goes sideways build the cheapest QUALITY rifle you can b/c you'll either be picking up better rifles off the ground or not using it for long...

not trying to be a wet blanket.

I have built 2000 bucks ARs (*luckily* stolen in S Carolina) and I have built 450 dollar ARs.

The spare 1500 bucks does not make it 3 times the rifle...it makes it more like 1.5 to twice the rifle.

Wife currently has a nice 1300 buck AR with a side charging handle and a bolt lock....

I have a 525 dollar S+W M+P 15 sport with a 200 optic on it...

If things go sideways I'll probably use it or give it to my son and use the Winchester SXP shotgun.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 10:04 AM (g8Hfr)

456
Wayne State University in Detroit is one of the largest schools in Michigan, with some 27,000 students. Until now, all of them had to either take one of three basic math classes to earn their degree, or else test out by performing sufficiently on a relevant SAT, CLEP, or AP test. But going forward, students will not longer have to demonstrate any mathematical competency to graduate, unless their particular course of study requires it.

But if faculty have their way, the school will soon recognize an appreciation for diversity as an extremely essential expertise. Students will have to take three signature classes, two designed for freshmen and one that will serve as a capstone class for upperclassmen. These signature classes will be designed to engage with modern-day issues such as culture, sustainability, health, ethics, and urban development and renewal. In recognition of the importance of diversity, all signature classes will be required to achieve a diversity-related goal such as intercultural knowledge and competence or global learning.

Daily Caller

Send more alligators....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 15, 2016 10:06 AM (kdS6q)

457
They have signs that say no swimming, but they absolutely allow people to walk on the shore line with their feet in the water, which is what the family was doing.

Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 10:01 AM (xHsw3)

He was "paddling around in a foot of water." And was two. That's a wee bit more than dipping your toes in.

Those parents flat fucked up. It's a shame. It's awful. This is why it pays to know where the hell you are and what dangers are around.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 15, 2016 10:06 AM (gW5Vg)

458 "Cuccinelli lost to the guy who bragged that he
attended a fundraiser while his wife was in the hospital giving birth.
To Hillary's bagman. To the guy whose choice as AG, Hering, was inspired
idiocy.

Cuccinelli didn't lose because the gummint closed. He
lost because he was a terrible red candidate in a blue state that has a
state GOP--I'm looking at you, Obenshain, you fool--that defines
kalistocracy. And because he doubled down on McConnell's stupidity by
not giving back $18k worth of gifts--by the same fixer--until the last
minute. And because he didn't campaign in NoVa. And because E.W. Jackson
was his running mate, and E.W. Jackson is just stone crazy.

Posted by: General Zod at June 15, 2016 10:02 AM (Bdeb0)"

And yet, he only lost by 2% after being outspent five to one. I wonder if Cuccinelli could have done better if he had only been outspent four to one or three to one.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 10:07 AM (QHgTq)

459 455 I have a bunch of ARs - some nice ones and some inexpensive ones. Some I built and some I purchased. But when the shit goes all sideways and the shooting starts I'm grabbing my M1A.

Posted by: Weasel at June 15, 2016 10:09 AM (6xtq3)

460 Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 10:01 AM (xHsw3)

That's crazy. I say Disney will face a large settlement. Every public place I've been to in LA where the expectation that people could be close to water with gators had warning signs.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 15, 2016 10:12 AM (mmU7u)

461 Falcon launch in ten minutes.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 15, 2016 10:12 AM (L1Xf4)

462 Trump is a 90s era Democrat.
It's a sign of how effed up our country is that he is now to the right of everyone else running.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 10:13 AM (7lVbc)

463 459 Posted by: Weasel at June 15, 2016 10:09 AM (6xtq3)

The M1a is a nice weapon....you think there's gonna be more 7.62*51 or 5.56*45 laying around?

At any rate if I ABSOLUTELY wanted to hit something I'd grab the M-96 Swede that got stolen.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 10:14 AM (g8Hfr)

464 The name of the Somali guy in Walmart: ((surprise)) moo-ham-it. I bet he used a fully automatic AR-15 too!!/sarc/
It was workplace violence, just like Fort Hood & San Bernadino. As Jon Gabriel said, there is no connection to the Orlando incident except the mooselimb one.***spit***

Posted by: lindafell de spair in Texas at June 15, 2016 10:16 AM (xVgrA)

465
I'll vote for Trump but I would much rather have him dumped at the convention, so Hillary just can't coast to an easy victory....

Posted by: beegs at June 15, 2016 09:52 AM (cxyn3)

OMG.

It's always the eternal unhappy Christmas morning for these metaphorically five year old girls-

all the presents have been opened and Mom is in the kitchen fixing pancakes and Dad is putting little Billy's bicycle together-

and all they can do look under the torn up wrapping paper and under the tree again and again crying about how there must be a pony, really a real pony! cuz they asked Santa Claus so hard!!!!!

It ain't happening.

Maybe after the convention. The #neverTrumps will grow up and reality will at some point occur to them.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 15, 2016 10:16 AM (HGtd0)

466 Speaking of toddlers, I did see the president stand yesterday with islam as the winds shifted in an angry direction.
A toddler, a toddler with a pantload, a toddler with a pantload THAT WASN'T HIS FAULT.
*spit*

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at June 15, 2016 10:17 AM (sJuKe)

467 If your opinion of him begins and ends with how he treats Trump, that say more of you than it does of him.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 15, 2016 10:04 AM (kKHcp)

my opinion of him is based on his performance as wannabe presidential candidate who lost, and whose job is now to support the presumptive republican candidate and not to lead an attack on him to the delight of hilary and obama and the idiot nevertrumpers. since he is now involved himself in a national game and not a local one, his performance will be judged accordingly.

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2016 10:17 AM (c6/9Q)

468 I wonder if Cuccinelli could have done better if he had only been outspent four to one or three to one"

Nah. VA wasn't voting for a GOP candidate no matter what.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 10:18 AM (C9pBZ)

469 463 I'm pretty well set in both calibers and can always reload! I have a couple of Garands that would be on the short list, too. I like rolling old school.

Posted by: Weasel at June 15, 2016 10:19 AM (6xtq3)

470 And exactly why would you expect the shooter to know why he did it? Fucking racist.

Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at June 15, 2016 10:20 AM (aA2hG)

471 "457

They have signs that say no swimming, but they absolutely allow
people to walk on the shore line with their feet in the water, which is
what the family was doing.

Posted by: Lauren at June 15, 2016 10:01 AM (xHsw3)

He was "paddling around in a foot of water." And was two. That's a wee bit more than dipping your toes in.

Those parents flat fucked up. It's a shame. It's awful. This is why
it pays to know where the hell you are and what dangers are around.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 15, 2016 10:06 AM (gW5Vg)"

I am not aware of that many luxury resorts in the United States where parents have to worry about large predators snatching their child while a parent is holding his hand. Somehow I doubt that the Disney Corporation emphasizes this point and I have never seen the Florida Tourist Board mention it in the TV ads they run.

Yes. The parents fucked up. They went to Florida. It is a shitty and dangerous place full of assholes who seem to resent the fact that they have to work for a living, mosquitoes infected with malaria, west Nile virus and Zika, lunatic music fans, murderous Jihadis, and large, fast, amphibious predators. The parents were as stupid to go to Florida as they would have been to vacation in Mexico.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 10:20 AM (QHgTq)

472 I'm seeing how we lose elections. We start believing the dem election trolls.

Posted by: Soona at June 15, 2016 10:20 AM (Fmupd)

473 "468
I wonder if Cuccinelli could have done better if he had only been outspent four to one or three to one"

Nah. VA wasn't voting for a GOP candidate no matter what.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 10:18 AM (C9pBZ)"

If that were true I would have expected Cuccinelli to have lost by more than 2%.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 10:23 AM (QHgTq)

474 Yes. The parents fucked up. They went to Florida. It is a shitty and dangerous place full of assholes who seem to resent the fact that they have to work for a living, mosquitoes infected with malaria, west Nile virus and Zika, lunatic music fans, murderous Jihadis, and large, fast, amphibious predators. The parents were as stupid to go to Florida as they would have been to vacation in Mexico.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 10:20 AM (QHgTq)

Stupid and obnoxious. Florida is happy you'll be staying away!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 15, 2016 10:26 AM (gW5Vg)

475 If that were true I would have expected Cuccinelli to have lost by more than 2%."

The Democrats had the election sewn up long before the GOP trotted out their foolish candidate. Had they garnered more votes, the Dems would've simply upped their numbers to compensate.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 15, 2016 10:27 AM (C9pBZ)

476 Disney has guests from all over the world. They should have signs in multiple languages.

Also they need to get a start on exterminating gators within their property.

Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 10:28 AM (7lVbc)

477 I'm liking that CrustyB character more and more every day.

Posted by: CrustyB at June 15, 2016 10:29 AM (GvSpB)

478 476 Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 10:28 AM (7lVbc)

Haha "good luck"...

https://twitter.com/SereneyRaimonde
That idiot is part of the problem...people have a VERY Disney view of ecology...it kills people every year.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 15, 2016 10:56 AM (g8Hfr)

479 "Stupid and obnoxious. Florida is happy you'll be staying away!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - In Florida at June 15, 2016 10:26 AM (gW5Vg)"

Yep. That makes two of us. I've done my time there and hopefully will never have to go back.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 15, 2016 11:28 AM (QHgTq)

480 I haven't read the whole thread. But from what I've read elsewhere about the crocodile story so far, it wasn't a matter of the toddler getting away from the parents quickly, as much as as it was a matter of the crocodile grabbing the toddler quickly.

The lagoon beach at the Grand Floridian, according to pictures, has lounge chairs, tables, etc. set up, and there is a sign saying "No Swimming." The boy and his mother were playing in the edge of the water. His sister was in a playpen farther from the edge.

The crocodile grabbed the boy. The father tried to wrestle the boy from the crocodile, and the mother tried to save him, too; to no avail.

I figure those parents have a pretty good lawsuit coming for there being no sign stating there is a possibility of crocodiles. It is rare for a crocodile to do this, and has never happened at that lagoon, but still,it is possible and no Disney-goer would expect it. This is one lawsuit I would be heavily in favor of.

But so what. No amount of money could make a dent in the horror of this for that family, or their ruined lives. (Not to mention the boy's loss of his life.)

Posted by: Alana at June 15, 2016 11:58 AM (WQD3o)

481 It was "less than a foot' of water by official reports. And there is NO "no wading" sign, and people do that all the time.

Posted by: SarahW not sure what's real anymore at June 15, 2016 01:10 PM (3fTXW)

482 "Also they need to get a start on exterminating gators within their property.
Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 10:28 AM (7lVbc)"
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Once more, the liberals. Almost had the gators gone back in the 50s, 60s. Then the greenies took over. Mustn't have that. Must let the poor gators run amok again. And so they do.
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Alana - It was NOT a crocodile. It was an alligator. Just a regular, everyday, hungry alligator.
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39 I know salties - the crocs they have is Australia - can be effing fast in grabbing prey even on land . And they are vicious beasts.
Are gators the same way?
Posted by: @votermom at June 15, 2016 08:14 AM (7lVbc)
Only when hungry.
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56 Used to be, you could know-it-all the argument by stating, only alligators are North American; there are no crocodiles in North America.
The salt-water crocodile has been successfully introduced to the Keys.
Whoopee.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 15, 2016 08:18 AM (tIja6)
No. Saltwater crocs have been in far south FL for a long time. Mostly rare and unseen. Not introduced.
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73 So ... is .357 sufficient to shoot a gator in the head, or do you need to go .44 ?

Troy Landry does it with a .22 lr or mag.
Me? Preferably a .577 T-Rex.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2016 08:24 AM (wXHOL
If you can actually hit something that will cause real damage. Otherwise, not so much. Gator hunters often use a "bang stick" which is a long pole with a shotgun shell on the end. Poke the gator on top of the head and the shell goes off. Alligators brain is about as big as a walnut. If you can hit that accurately with your .22 then give it a try. I ain't going there.
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Posted by: Larry Geiger at June 15, 2016 02:22 PM (9xzxW)

483 It's been my experience that tragic events often show what miserable curs fellow humans can be.

Never underestimate the willingness of some to cast aspersions on those suffering the most. Lobbing vicious attacks is far easier for them rather than having to accept that terrible things can happen to good people or that they can't maintain control over everything that happens in their lives.

Posted by: Sjg at June 15, 2016 03:40 PM (gDSJf)

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