When Violence Roams the Streets, Intellectuals Quaver in the Shadows

This is disgusting https://t.co/gjZaFhWhRs
— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) June 3, 2016

But some sort of excused this, or contextualized it.

I think we're seeing something similar that happened with the Left after 9/11.

The Left became enraged after 9/11 because it's worldview was repudiated and its influence was diminished. "You're all stupid and racists" because their wooby -- their way of assuaging themselves after a diminishment of influence and power.

They began throwing venom at the rest of the country for not having the wisdom to appreciate their wisdom.

The online conservative commentariat is going down the same dark road.

"What the hell is wrong with people? Why don't they understand?" is a perfectly fine question to ask. I know I ask it all the time.

But another question to ask -- maybe more frequently than that one -- is "What am I not getting? What am I not seeing?"

If you just keep telling yourself that your opponents are Evil and Stupid, well, that's a self-satisfying indulgence, but an unproductive one.

The online conservative (?) commentariat is ghettoizing itself further and further from mainstream opinion, and convincing itself more and more as it self-selects down to tiny numbers that it is a Vital Remnant of Goodness and Good Sense in an increasingly ugly and stupid world.

They are not, by any means, the only people guilty of this, certainly.

But they are doing it now.

I really think that when you're at the point of saying "Everyone around me is stupid, wicked, racist, and evil," you should begin to examine the possibility that perhaps they're not all these things, and perhaps the defect resides more in your own egotistical mental barriers erected to keep any of those barbaric ideas out.

I really don't know what some of these organizations' game-plan is for the future. They seem to desire to become fringe political exotica; well, I won't stand before anyone's dream.

Let me say something about intellectuals. I have long contended that intellectuals had an unfair reputation as being cowards and creatures of decadence, rather than as being vital, important things.

But I have to say, I am reconsidering. The day after another bout of leftist rioting and personal violence in service of suppressing a political rally -- this one apparently undertaken with the connivance and permission of the police, the agents of the state itself, and the support of the mayor -- I see many of the dessicated, decayed, and decadent intellectual class continuing to obsess about their Pet Concerns and Wooby Preoccupations instead of dealing with the frightening reality that is the actual news of the day.

At NRO, I saw earlier only Jim Geraghty talking about the violence of the left. Update: A commenter points out that Jonah Goldberg also wrote on the left's double standard on violence.

Everyone else seemed to decide that reality was too ugly and indecorous to be mentioned in polite company, and retreated to their nicely-manicured gardens.

Nietsche mentioned that in a decadent society, the decayed cultivate "luxurious concerns" -- concerns as luxury goods and badges of rank.

Many of us think that on a day of open challenge to the rule of law and civil politics generally, perhaps these luxurious concerns could be put aside for one day -- or at least a few hours -- to talk about actual reality its ugly, brutish, but inescapable configurations.

And so it is I am re-examining my belief that intellectuals are vital and strong creatures, and falling back into my old bias against them as being decadent, weak, timorous, and frightened by reality.

Something ugly, dangerous, and thoroughly anti-American happened last night.

If you can't summon the courage to your fingertips to comment upon it from a safe distance, then who the fuck needs you?

To Clarify: I don't consider intellectuality a sign of weakness at all. These two things should not be associated with each other.

Ideally, the intellectual is in fact brave -- or, at least, brave in the psychological, social, and mental ways of being brave. (Few intellectuals are physically brave; but then, few men are physically brave, period. You can't hold it against an intellectual that he shies away from physical danger and even discomfort just like 98% of the male population.)

But if the intellectuals themselves choose this path, no one can shy from noticing.

I mean, at least show the bravery of denouncing something easily denounced.

Or would that help Trump too much...? Are we now gaming out which principles we should speak a word in favor of according to which candidate might indirectly benefit from our utterances...?

Posted by: Ace at 04:04 PM

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1 But another question to ask -- maybe more frequently than that one -- is "What am I not getting? What am I not seeing?"

I do this all the time. Trying to put my toes in their shoes.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:02 PM (qCMvj)

2

Goodness Ace, you're spouting my thoughts.

That's why you are #1. You figure out how to say it.

Ace of Spades, now Ace of Clubs.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:04 PM (qCMvj)

3 Alas, I have no parfait.

Posted by: Killerdog at June 03, 2016 04:05 PM (lDh9G)

4 They bring a knife, we bring an egg.

Hopefully someone brings bacon.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 04:05 PM (+wjl1)

5 Many of us think that on a day of open challenge to the rule of law and civil politics generally, perhaps these luxurious concerns could be put aside for one day -- or at least a few hours -- to talk about actual reality its ugly, brutish, but inescapable configurations.

Dear Leftists,

Fix your shit or we're gonna let the bodies hit the floor.

Signed,
Your worst nightmare

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 04:06 PM (yCZVl)

6 "At NRO, I saw earlier only Jim Geraghty ..."

Ace - FWIW, Jonah Goldberg today, "The Left's Violence Double Standard"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z7xgf29

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 03, 2016 04:06 PM (9mTYi)

7 I feel like volunteering to be a security guy for any near by Trump rally. Trump supporters have to start manning up.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:06 PM (Ozsfq)

8 Egging someone is battery. And assault if they see it coming.

Posted by: gm at June 03, 2016 04:07 PM (4ueYo)

9 So at this point is the only difference between Sam Liccardo and Bull Connor that the former doesn't have a cool first name?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:07 PM (X7E8f)

10 It's getting damn scary out there. Is it too late?

Posted by: Splashdown at June 03, 2016 04:08 PM (ffBsA)

11 And so it is I am re-examining my belief that intellectuals are vital and strong creatures, and falling back into my old bias against them as being decadent, weak, timorous, and frightened by reality.

because they are conceptual
not doers
speak and write

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:08 PM (qCMvj)

12 Who is Ben Howe and is he serious? If so , I volunteer to egg the fuck out of him.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 04:08 PM (V8uX9)

13 In 2008 & 2012 the Right viewed Obama as as much of a threat to the country as the Left views Trump now. Yet somehow we were able to avoid assaulting Obama supporters at Obama campaign events. Don't think we'll ever see anyone in the MSM point out this contrast (or the fact that we were right about Obama).

Posted by: Average Guy at June 03, 2016 04:08 PM (LMcFk)

14 So at this point is the only difference between Sam Liccardo and Bull Connor that the former doesn't have a cool first name?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:07 PM (X7E8f)

Or balls under his hose ( see what I did there?)

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:08 PM (Ozsfq)

15 Yea, that about did it for me. I'm not supporting Trump, he hasn't convinced me yet, but I will be voting against Hillary this fall.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 04:08 PM (/tuJf)

16 Even the Right uses the passive voice, as in violence "broke out" instead of the truth, like "the mob attacked."

Yes, last night was organized and paid for. But the mayor and the police and the DNC and Hillary have no interest in finding out who sponsored it. As usual.

Next attack is going to be a fatality, I'm afraid. And then what, a candlelight vigil and healing thoughts? We're getting pretty good at that.

Posted by: PJ at June 03, 2016 04:08 PM (cHuNI)

17
So does this mean where all going to have to look inward to see why we are hated?

Or vice versa?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:09 PM (p4UlV)

18 I doubt there is a game plan only the more they get away with the more you'll get.

Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 04:09 PM (3wHFl)

19 Hopefully someone brings bacon.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 04:05 PM (+wjl1)

and toast
with Salted Butter

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:09 PM (qCMvj)

20 I guarantee you one of these nut bags is going to get shot at some point. It will be well deserved and justified but Trump will be blamed.

This is leftist playbook 101. If you don't like what someone says bully them. Call them racist, bigot, sexist homophobe until they agree with you. If they don't respond to that attack them physically. Not agreeing with a leftist is a crime. The problem is, we now have a candidate that understands their rules.

Posted by: james at June 03, 2016 04:09 PM (8NivZ)

21 Oh yeah the Lefties and 9/11

Like what that Hollywood guy Evan iirc was saying: it's when he noticed they weren't joking.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 03, 2016 04:10 PM (jeVt0)

22 This stuff only can happen in leftard jurisdictions.

Here in America, these punks would get their asses shot off by their victims.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 04:10 PM (jLXo8)

23 Yea, that about did it for me. I'm not supporting Trump, he hasn't convinced me yet, but I will be voting against Hillary this fall.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 04:08 PM (/tuJf)

We're gonna get you, We're gonna get you.

Jack I am your father

Posted by: The Dark Side at June 03, 2016 04:10 PM (Ozsfq)

24 I refuse to see the smashing of shop windows as anything other than a baseball-related accident.

Posted by: Bennn Howwww at June 03, 2016 04:10 PM (+wjl1)

25 because they are conceptual
not doers
speak and write
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
---------

That is why they congregate in academe, the only place where thought and deed are coincident.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 03, 2016 04:10 PM (9mTYi)

26

What would Shakespeare have said?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:10 PM (qCMvj)

27 Do you mind, Ace?

The pissants are defending their pisspots the only way they know how, with sullen passive-aggression.

I marched and protested for ten-plus years in Los Angeles. The party meetings were full of people who talked tough, and would applaud the conservative guest speakers. But there were never more than a handful who would hit the streets, whether for a protest or walking a precinct.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at June 03, 2016 04:10 PM (Kucy5)

28 because they are conceptual

not doers

speak and write
***
I'd say NRO and its ilk are rather like on the conceptualizing as well.

Part, and it is only part, of the reason we are in this mess is the incompetence and cowardice of the nominal mouthpieces of conservatism.

Note that NRO treated John Derbyshire then ANYONE will in end by treated for the San Jose riot....

Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:10 PM (X7E8f)

29 So does this mean where all going to have to look inward to see why we are hated?

Like I give a fvck.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 04:10 PM (yCZVl)

30 Yes, and thank you for saying it, Ace.

Posted by: Pastorius at June 03, 2016 04:10 PM (gMAUH)

31 This ain't ova! It's assault and pepper! And the way those protesters scrambled tells me that the hard-boiled activists will be back to attack the Bacon again. This shitshow isn't going to be over easy.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 04:11 PM (2cS/G)

32
If what happened yesterday ramps up and climaxes at the convention - which I believe it will - the Left will have handed Trump the presidency and in a landslide. Just like they did in '68 and in '72.

Keep hurling eggs, rocks and obscenities while waving the Mexican flag, lefties.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:11 PM (p4UlV)

33 Soon a mob will run up and throw punchs at a Trump supporter at a rally and that person will be a CCW holder and they will defend themselves. It is going to happen and honestly I think the left is desperately waiting for that to happen. In fact I think they are encouraging it.

And yes if confronted with a mob attacking me, I would use deadly force to protect myself or my wife.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 03, 2016 04:11 PM (iONHu)

34 and yet, don't radical feminists think that a man merely looking at a woman is a kind of assault?

Posted by: mallflower at June 03, 2016 04:11 PM (qSIlh)

35 And yes if confronted with a mob attacking me, I would use deadly force to protect myself or my wife.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 03, 2016 04:11 PM (iONHu)

Yup.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:12 PM (Ozsfq)

36 First thing Trump has done that I actually said Yes was calling the news media liars.

Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 04:12 PM (3wHFl)

37 29 Like I give a fvck.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 04:10 PM (yCZVl)

Would have thought by now I wouldn't need a sarc tag.

*shakes head in disappointment*

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:12 PM (p4UlV)

38 Trump needs a Brute squad for his rallies.

But a smart one. Out of the media's eyes. There only a few that are organizing this. Find them. Roll up the network.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 03, 2016 04:12 PM (u82oZ)

39 Something ugly, dangerous, and thoroughly anti-American happened last night.

I realize you're of the Trump half-hearted (at best) vein, but who on the republican side has stood up so far and condemned last nights display of domestic violence?

Who has any balls left in this country?

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (ZnIt3)

40 Nope ... that response to the tall kid fighting back is all, all fucking wrong.

That should have turned into a mass fighting back.

Intellectuals ... of which I think I can at least sit in the team photo with, as a dude with an engineering degree and patents ...

... love to insist that we must THINK our way out of any situation.

Sorry, thinking not required for this current situation. It's time to fight.

We can THINK about what to do after we win the FIGHT. Now is time to FIGHT.

Period.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (fiGNd)

41 How DARE that woman break that starving Mexican's eggs, using her head like a food-smashing Hammer of Hate! Now all his children will go hungry. Genocide!

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (jBuUi)

42 Something anti-American happened last night because it was mostly foreigners causing it.

This is your future, Americans. Embrace it.

Let them put their love all over your body.

Apparently soccer balls, stuffed animals, and subscriptions to The National Review in espanol handed out at the border happened a bit too late.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (4ErVI)

43 Retaliation is all the leftist want.

Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (3wHFl)

44 But there were never more than a handful who would hit the streets, whether for a protest or walking a precinct.
***
Getting fired from your day job, or even arrested, for advancing the left's cause will generally launch the career of a left wing activist.

Until something like that exists on the right side their won't be many conservative activists.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (X7E8f)

45 So does this mean where all going to have to look inward to see why we are hated?

Or vice versa?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:09 PM (p4UlV)

No vice versa, buddy. That's not how it works!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (qCMvj)

46 Not egging anyone on (SWIDT?), but maybe Howe would change his tune if he were Halloween pranked every time he shows his target -er- face in public.

Again, just a thought, not an encouragement.

Posted by: Average Guy at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (LMcFk)

47 Silence is consent.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (9krrF)

48 I realize you're of the Trump half-hearted (at best) vein, but who on the republican side has stood up so far and condemned last nights display of domestic violence?

Who has any balls left in this country?

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (ZnIt3)

Cavuto just did and he was pretty good also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:14 PM (Ozsfq)

49 NaCly: That one is easy. Find the ACORN Soros vans and busses.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 04:14 PM (jLXo8)

50 >>>11 And so it is I am re-examining my belief that intellectuals are vital and strong creatures, and falling back into my old bias against them as being decadent, weak, timorous, and frightened by reality. >>>

because they are conceptual
not doers
speak and write
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:08 PM (qCMvj)>>>

Many are not intellectuals either. They're just like pretending to be smart.

Posted by: gm at June 03, 2016 04:14 PM (4ueYo)

51 Ace, it's simply because they aren't forced to live in this world. This group of "conservatives" makes their living covering others in their same class and then they all have dinner together inside their gated community in D.C. For YEARS they've been telling us through their actions that "it's not THAT bad" or "you're exaggerating and probably racist... But vote Republican!" They don't live in the real world and if they even acknowledge it they'll lose the approval of their perceived betters that they oh so aspire to be.

Posted by: Elegy at June 03, 2016 04:14 PM (TYsVt)

52 Silence is consent.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (9krrF)

yes great point

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:14 PM (Ozsfq)

53 Intellectuals are not the same as intelligent people.

Intellectuals are people who have adopted the habits and appearance of intelligent people. They may be intelligent, or the may not.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 03, 2016 04:14 PM (LUG6K)

54 From Varlam Shalamov's "What I Saw And Learned In The Kolyma Camps":

10. I saw what a forcible argument a simple slap could be for an intellectual.

12. A beating is almost irresistible as an argument

29. The lust for power, for unpunished murder is great

31. I learned that world should be divided not into good and bad people
but into cowards and non-cowards. 95% of cowards are capable of any
meanness, lethal meanness, after light threatening.

Take good notes - this stuff will be on the final.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 03, 2016 04:14 PM (rznWS)

55 Fidd'n to be a fight.
Most of those doing the uproaring are going there with that purpose in mind.
So, the other side is going to start doing likewise.
There are plenty of folks that would think it good fun to go get a rumble going.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 03, 2016 04:14 PM (QM5S2)

56 Howe's "apology":

@BenHowe
I'm not above saying I'm wrong. I didn't think it was a big deal. Apparently it is. Lesson learned. Now let the barrage continue.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 03, 2016 04:14 PM (p2X2f)

57 Note that in the first video, the first group of Trump supporters whop got assaulted are THE EXACT SAME TEENAGERS I photographed at the earlier rally in Burlingame:

http://www.zombietime.com/inside_the_anti-trump_circus/IMG_8263.JPG

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 04:14 PM (jBuUi)

58 And so it is I am re-examining my belief that intellectuals are vital and strong creatures, and falling back into my old bias against them as being decadent, weak, timorous, and frightened by reality.

Something ugly, dangerous, and thoroughly anti-American happened last night.

If you can't summon the courage to your fingertips to comment upon it from a safe distance, then who the fuck needs you?

Ben Howe also said that the woman who was pelted with eggs provoked people by flipping them off and shaking her ass.

So he can take the motherfucking "retraction" that he put out and stick it where the sun don't shine.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 04:14 PM (mf5HN)

59 Trump supporters are out of control and all White! Someone should put a yolk on them!

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 04:15 PM (2cS/G)

60

Ben Howe 24 minutes ago

As I fully expected, all of the fair-weather pacifists in Trump's legions don't give to craps about anti-Trump protestors being maced.

Something from a political lit class taken long ago.

Go far enough right, or far enough left, and you find yourself taking to the same people.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 04:15 PM (kdS6q)

61
Ugly, dangerous, and thoroughly anti-American is no way to go through life, son.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 04:15 PM (IqV8l)

62 43 Retaliation is all the leftist want.
Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (3wHFl)

They really ought to be careful what they wish for. They are very lucky - VERY. LUCKY. - the majority of the American people are decent, patient and law-abiding.

If any or all of those attributes were to change . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:15 PM (p4UlV)

63 See and it's similar even here

I could joke along with everyone about sister fucking trailer trash Hicks - and still do - but push to shove, they're my fellow Americans and on my side. Now I see that a lot weren't joking and I have to re-appraise everything. Worse, the ones that weren't think they have to do the same. What an eye opener

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 03, 2016 04:15 PM (jeVt0)

64 I know one thing you couldn't pay me to attend any of these rallies here on out let alone go to either one of the conventions unless you're providing me with air cover and one of those mechanized attack robots from Pacific Rim.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 03, 2016 04:15 PM (4ErVI)

65 I despise Trump as much as anyone but now I despise this Ben Howe character and Red State even more , if that's possible.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 04:15 PM (V8uX9)

66 I refuse to think of egging (a Halloween prank) as violence against women.

-----

But naming hurricanes after women or calling them "gals" is rape.

Fuck.

Off.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 04:15 PM (8XRCm)

67 I will say this about Trump - the left and the intellectuals on the right keep saying he is at fault for all the violence, hoping to shame him into giving an apology. But he is doubling down, calling out the protestors and appears to be quite happy having rallies in California. And in the process, exposing these illegals for the thugs that they really are.

Posted by: IC at June 03, 2016 04:15 PM (a0IVu)

68 Trump supporters need to start showing up at rallies with ax handles, bike chains, baseball bats, lead pipes...

Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 03, 2016 04:15 PM (LUG6K)

69 Soon a mob will run up and throw punchs at a Trump supporter at a rally
and that person will be a CCW holder and they will defend themselves.
***
If Trump were smart he would have his next big rally in a leftwing controlled city with a conservative state government.

Go to Austin, let this play out, and ask the governor to go after those funding the rioters...

On a side note, I wonder if incidents like this will actually push Trump himself to the right?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:16 PM (X7E8f)

70 I always thought the "intellectuals" basically consigned the 9/11 unpleasantness to the memory-hole faster than they could sip a really fine wine. So it's not surprising this trend has continued, it's not happening in their neighborhoods (yet).

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 03, 2016 04:16 PM (wYnyS)

71 "Retaliation is all the leftist want."

We've heard that tired old saw before from the left. Axe handles encourage civility from idiotic leftist retards.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 04:16 PM (jLXo8)

72 Honestly, I can't help but feel that the state of our country is beyond the influence of TRUE intellectuals. What we have now are partisan gangs each trying to topple the other in a quest to have what's left of the sh*tpile. For awhile there I thought that our country was headed for a civil war. Alas, I think we're headed to something more-or-less akin to the French Revolution.

Posted by: Shinjinrui at June 03, 2016 04:16 PM (4SznG)

73 61
Ugly, dangerous, and thoroughly anti-American is no way to go through life, son.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 04:15 PM (IqV8l)

With that list, life may not be that long.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:16 PM (p4UlV)

74 >>>13 In 2008 & 2012 the Right viewed Obama as as much of a threat to the country as the Left views Trump now. Yet somehow we were able to avoid assaulting Obama supporters at Obama campaign events. Don't think we'll ever see anyone in the MSM point out this contrast (or the fact that we were right about Obama).
Posted by: Average Guy at June 03, 2016 04:08 PM (LMcFk)>>>

Obama's Purple Shirts did the assaulting then as well.

Posted by: gm at June 03, 2016 04:16 PM (4ueYo)

75 " Are we now gaming out which principles we should speak a word in favor
of according to which candidate might indirectly benefit from our
utterances...?"

Of course man, of course.

Coupled with "reverse" virtue signaling of what's left unsaid.

Posted by: muthafucka at June 03, 2016 04:16 PM (L6eip)

76 I currently plan to vote for Gary Johnson just because I don't like Trump or Hillary, but seeing much more of this bull shit from the left and I'll jump to Trump and I suspect to more of this we see, the more it will push people to vote Trump.

Of course, I thought there was no way Obama would be re-elected either so there you go.

Posted by: Scott at June 03, 2016 04:17 PM (Bo7uZ)

77 Hiring MMA fighters to wear Trump gear might settle some of these pricks down. Once they have to decide if their target a normal guy or a well trained fighter.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 03, 2016 04:17 PM (tf9Ne)

78 Before seeing AtC's #58 I was thinking, my, how Ben Howe is becoming douchier and douchier each day. His hatred for all Trump all of the time has eroded whatever follicles he had left.

I believe he is a married man. If I were to throw eggs at his wife and hit her you can bet by God he would think I committed a violent act against his wife.

I've been on the fence about voting for Trump. I might just do it to spite all of these fucking stupid fucks.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 03, 2016 04:17 PM (voOPb)

79 @10: "
It's getting damn scary out there. Is it too late?"

My roommate from school is a Secret Service agent. They're rather worried about what is reasonably likely to happen this year on the campaign trail.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 03, 2016 04:17 PM (rznWS)

80 >>>72 Honestly, I can't help but feel that the state of our country is beyond the influence of TRUE intellectuals.

Posted by: Shinjinrui at June 03, 2016 04:16 PM (4SznG)>>>

The country is being run by and for the insane.

Posted by: gm at June 03, 2016 04:17 PM (4ueYo)

81 Retaliation is all the leftist want.
Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (3wHFl)

They really ought to be careful what they wish for. They are very lucky - VERY. LUCKY. - the majority of the American people are decent, patient and law-abiding.

~~If any or all of~~ WHEN those attributes ~~were to~~ change . . .

Push a man too far......

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 04:17 PM (yCZVl)

82 Folks, everyone has to realize something. All of the radical leftist
groups showing up and doing these outrageous things at Trump's rallies
are HEAVILY financed and run by George Soros and his professional
agitation experts; MoveOn, BlackLives Matters, several Hispanic groups.

George Soros is a BUSINESS PARTNER and social friend of Donald Trump,
and I am sure is FULLY aware that these efforts cause a knee-jerk
reactionary surge of SUPPORT for Trump- as I truly believe they are
intended at the moment. It INCREASES the divisiveness in this country
(the one thing Trump's nomination was guaranteed to do), and continually
adds to Soros 'street army' of radical agitators.
Personally, I'm
thinking George plan is counting on some idiot Trump supporters to
respond with gunfire at some point. And THAT is what the Left and the
media will use to accomplish multiple things: they've been painting
actual conservatism in Trump colors and will kill that with utterly
biased coverage. (Conservatism is FAR more dangerous to the liberals
cause than Trump's national popularism). They will strengthen gun
control efforts. And they will crush Trump at the polls, destroying the
GOP for all time.
I think Trump is far more pawn that player in
this game; he is frankly too ignorant to the world and the political
tactics to be anything else.

Posted by: Mike O at June 03, 2016 04:17 PM (1Kxrv)

83

BRAVO.

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:17 PM (zOTsN)

84 74 Posted by: Average Guy at June 03, 2016 04:08 PM (LMcFk)>>>

Remember the New Black Panther Party poll watchers?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:17 PM (p4UlV)

85 @16: "Next attack is going to be a fatality, I'm afraid. And then what, a
candlelight vigil and healing thoughts? We're getting pretty good at
that."

Yeah, and the "Imagine" sing-a-long should be a hoot!

Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 03, 2016 04:19 PM (rznWS)

86 What we really need right now is someone wearing a bow tie to explain how tax cuts will get us out of this mess.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 03, 2016 04:19 PM (4ErVI)

87 in the old days this would be the eastside going downtown.

nowadays it's almost everywhere.

Posted by: concrete girl at June 03, 2016 04:19 PM (ceWrl)

88 If mayors of cities can't stem the violence that accompanies their voters they have a duty to force them into secure areas for their protests in order to protect others.
It's not as though that hasn't been done before.
That being said, I sincerely hope the Democratic convention in Philadelphia is just the same, or worse, than Chicago convention in '68.

Posted by: Hank at June 03, 2016 04:19 PM (KFvpb)

89 We wouldn't be having these problems if intellectualls were required to work in the rice paddies where they could see where their daily bowl of rice comes from -- Chairman Mao

What we need now are a new Republican Red Guard who will call out the running dog imperalists for public shaming for their greedy profiteering and their oppression of poor people.

Posted by: Wong Chu at June 03, 2016 04:19 PM (yZ0Uj)

90 Oh and here's the thing. I have pretensions, no, not those, not those either, not them, those other ones over there, of being an intellectual.

I'm not kidding that I enjoy and spend time creating these perfectly reasoned and planned out schemes for political systems in my head.

But. Here's the but. But I know and admit that I do that because reality is horrible and I don't wanna and it's way more fun to play Civ With Real People. I know full damn well that my gorgeous intellectual castles in the sky won't survive the first second's contact with reality.

There is a need for reason and thought and people who sit around all day doing so and how can I get me a job like that. But the people who do that then need to go out and see what happens when such things are implemented. If not? It's just intellectual masturbation without the joys of actual masturbation.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 04:19 PM (mf5HN)

91 Where is the RNC!!

Or Mitt Romney

Or the Bushes

Where is the outrage

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:19 PM (zOTsN)

92 >>>76 I currently plan to vote for Gary Johnson just because I don't like Trump or Hillary, but seeing much more of this bull shit from the left and I'll jump to Trump and I suspect to more of this we see, the more it will push people to vote Trump.

Posted by: Scott at June 03, 2016 04:17 PM (Bo7uZ)>>>

Gary Johnson is a fascist thug who likes to smoke dope, so calls himself a Libertarian. He's definiately worse than Trump; and possibly worse than Hillary.

Posted by: gm at June 03, 2016 04:20 PM (4ueYo)

93 What the hell happened to RedState? I mean, it was always a shitty blog, but it really went off the rails.

I've been a part of the conservative movement for a while, and I can definitely find ideological inconsistencies with Trump, but it seems to me it's being WAY overly magnified to the point where the Beltway Right is finding common cause with Left-wing brownshirts.

Posted by: Maritime at June 03, 2016 04:20 PM (ak7o9)

94 Am I the only person who sees the Obergefell decision as the defining event that emboldened the Left and unleashed this Hell on America?

(h/t TheAmishDude)

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at June 03, 2016 04:20 PM (kP16F)

95 >>>>>They really ought to be careful what they wish for. They are very lucky -
VERY. LUCKY. - the majority of the American people are decent, patient
and law-abiding.

If any or all of those attributes were to change . . .

.
.
.
.Yep, and it will not take much more for most law abiding peaceful people to get angry.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 03, 2016 04:20 PM (iONHu)

96 Trump is having a rally in Redding right now. Friday afternoon protesting should be interesting.

Posted by: IC at June 03, 2016 04:20 PM (a0IVu)

97 Dear Ace,

This whole leftist getting -away-with -violence thingy is not an 'either-or' decision in terms of what uniform one may , or may not , wear as part of a response to the violence.

It is strictly a 'will or wont'.

Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at June 03, 2016 04:20 PM (3ZttN)

98 It stopped being about Trump long ago.

Fix that in your minds: This is not about Trump.

It's about power.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 03, 2016 04:21 PM (9krrF)

99
Remember the New Black Panther Party poll watchers?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:17 PM (p4UlV)

"You're about to be ruled by the black man."

Yeah.

And Chinless Holder: "They Dindo Nuffin."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 03, 2016 04:21 PM (1ZOkK)

100 It's the dumbasses on the streets who are being concerned with trivialities, not the intellectuals. The protesters are doing this, like all protesters and activists in recent decades, for vanity. They want to bolster their little psychological hero narrative by pretending they're soldiers in some war for the soul of the country. That's why the SJW leftists with mediocre minds living in their parents' basement flock to this crap, and that's the same reason the alt-right neo-nazis want their race war. They have accomplished nothing in their life but they can't just accept the life their abilities would have allowed them, and so they have to play make-believe to make themselves feel special. They all think society kept 'em down, they would have been rich and appreciated if it hadn't been for capitalism/Jews/globalism/Mexicans/whatever. Protesters are children.

It's these populist clashes that are the nonsense, they are about nothing and they will yield nothing. They're playing a football game with a meaningless outcome while insisting that everyone will die of cancer if their side doesn't win.

Posted by: cjw at June 03, 2016 04:21 PM (onydf)

101 82 Posted by: Mike O at June 03, 2016 04:17 PM (1Kxrv)

This is all interesting except for one thing: Trump himself. They can plot moves and countermoves out the wazoo, just like the GOP and media did for a year now and it backfired.

Not saying your prognostication is wrong, it's just that there are other factors at work, I think.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:21 PM (p4UlV)

102 This was a Tweet from Stephen Miller last after the videos hit the Web:

"Protestors are doing more to get Trump elected than his online anon hentai fanboy army is."

This from an NRO contributor who still thinks "small hands" jokes about Trump are the ne plus ultra of fucking comedy.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 03, 2016 04:21 PM (IgmR9)

103
"40 Nope ... that response to the tall kid fighting back is all, all fucking wrong.

That should have turned into a mass fighting back.

Intellectuals ... of which I think I can at least sit in the team photo with, as a dude with an engineering degree and patents ...

... love to insist that we must THINK our way out of any situation.

Sorry, thinking not required for this current situation. It's time to fight.

We can THINK about what to do after we win the FIGHT. Now is time to FIGHT.

Period.

38 Trump needs a Brute squad for his rallies.

But a smart one. Out of the media's eyes. There only a few that are organizing this. Find them. Roll up the network."

Both of these comments are spot on. A Trump Brut Squad, willing to fight back. Dress just like the protesters and carry anti-Trump signs, then beat the shit out of the instigators when they start violence.

Posted by: UndercoverinLA at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (J3x3K)

104
Trump supporters need to start showing up at rallies with ax handles, bike chains, baseball bats, lead pipes...
Posted by: Colorado Alex

Or egg beaters.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (IqV8l)

105 That poor woman was hit with eggs in the face. It is painful. She was swarmed and she as spit on. Fuck Ben Howe. And his half ass retraction is a half ass retraction. He can still fck himself.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (iQIUe)

106 Peace, love, and tire irons.

Posted by: wooga at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (zaVE0)

107 Every alleged republican should be howling about this fascist outrage

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (zOTsN)

108 This stuff is hitting in the news pretty well now. The left can embrace the suck

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (dULJN)

109 91 Where is the RNC!!

Or Mitt Romney

Or the Bushes

Where is the outrage
Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:19 PM (zOTsN)

Hanging with Bill & Hill?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (voOPb)

110 If only intelligence, rather than insanity, was required to be considered an intellectual.

Posted by: gm at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (4ueYo)

111 Gary Johnson is a fascist thug who likes to smoke dope, so calls himself
a Libertarian. He's definiately worse than Trump; and possibly worse
than Hillary.
***
The libertarian party's outreach to the dopetarians in the 90s led to the former being completely taken over.

Most LP candidates now are more interested in punishing people with draconian environmental and thought crime laws then doing a damn thing about Leviathan.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (X7E8f)

112 Peace, love, and tire irons.

Posted by: wooga at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (zaVE0)

Peace, love, and large-caliber weaponry.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 03, 2016 04:23 PM (LUG6K)

113 The protesters are doing this, like all protesters and activists in recent decades, for vanity.

----

Stop.

Stop using the language of the left.

These are NOT protesters. They are rioters. Criminals. Anarchists or Thugs.

They are NOT protesters.

Words MEAN things.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 04:23 PM (8XRCm)

114 Cops arent stupid. They also have intelligence on the ground. So, why didnt they do anything to protect those people?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 04:23 PM (iQIUe)

115 Trump is having a rally in Redding right now.
------------

I am woman hear me roar...

Posted by: Helen Redding at June 03, 2016 04:23 PM (9mTYi)

116 Just a note. Most of these riots are happening in blue cities with very weak self-defense laws. They're much like no-gun zones.

Posted by: Soona at June 03, 2016 04:24 PM (Fmupd)

117 Good thing that Goldman Sachs and GE paid Vox to help incite this riot.

Posted by: gm at June 03, 2016 04:24 PM (4ueYo)

118 104 Or egg beaters.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (IqV8l)

The pint or quart size?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:24 PM (p4UlV)

119
More on obama's pattern of racist use of "okey-doke."

From the movie Malcolm X, where obama gets his history lessons, evidently. Mr. X at a rally in Harlem talking about white politicians blowing smoke up their asses: "Oh, and I say it again, you've been had. You've been took. You've been hoodwinked. Bamboozled. Led astray. Run amok!"

Here is obama in January 2008 in South Carolina in front of black audience: They're trying to bamboozle you. Don't let people turn you around because they're just making stuff up. That's what they do. They try to bamboozle you, hoodwink you."

Here is obama in Mississipi in front of a black audience in March 2008 on Hillary Clinton and all the whites trying to make obama take a back seat to a Clinton ticket: "See, I was trying to explain to someone the 'okey-doke.' Y'all know the okey-doke? It's when someone's trying to bamboozle you, when they're trying to hoodwink you. They are trying to hoodwink you. You can't say that he's not ready on day one, unless he's willing to be your vice president and then he's ready on day one."

And later in October 2008 here's obama again, this time using his racist dog whistle against John McCain by telling a black audience to not let John McCain "hoodwink" or "bamboozle" them.

Finally, here is obama this week in Indiana: "The one thing I can promise you is if we turn against each other based on divisions of race and religion--if we fall for a bunch of okey-doke just because it sounds funny or the tweets are provocative, then we're not going to build on the progress we started."

obama is telling Blacks they'll go back to the bad old times if Trump is elected. What 'progress' has obama made in improving the lives of a single black person, excluding his own?

There are more unemployed Blacks today than ever. More Blacks on food stamps and in poverty than ever. Eight years of obama and all the Blacks got was....what?

The ol' OKEY DOKE, is all they got from obama.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 04:24 PM (jK3b3)

120 Cops arent stupid. They also have intelligence on the ground. So, why didnt they do anything to protect those people?

Word came down to stand down. Same as Benghazi. Left is ruling currently.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 04:24 PM (yCZVl)

121
86 What we really need right now is someone wearing a bow tie to explain how tax cuts will get us out of this mess.

And wax poetic on the evils of blue jeans.

Posted by: wooga at June 03, 2016 04:24 PM (zaVE0)

122 The Libertarian Party is dead. Small L libertarians are holding their noses and voting against socialists these days.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 04:24 PM (jLXo8)

123 A Trump Brut Squad, willing to fight back. Dress just like the protesters and carry anti-Trump signs, then beat the shit out of the instigators when they start violence.
Posted by: UndercoverinLA at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (J3x3K)

where does the line form?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:25 PM (Ozsfq)

124
There is only one reason for this:

Pride.

Virtue signalling is the product of pride, and that's what all of the #NeverTrump crap is.

Also remember:

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall

Posted by: Ed Anger at June 03, 2016 04:25 PM (RcpcZ)

125 Oh and another thing. Ben Howe made cracks (no pun intended) before his utter fucking bullshit "retraction" about how being pelted with eggs was no worse than glitter bombing.

I have long hated the whole glitter bombing stuff. It's not cute. It's not funny. And, more importantly, deeming that acceptable leads to people thinking hey it's okay to throw things and to security being lax because, whatever, that's just glitter.

So, no, glitter bombing is not okay.

Plus digging glitter out of one's tits is annoying as hell. I've been told. *shifty eyes*

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 04:25 PM (mf5HN)

126 Trump is having a rally in Redding right now.

Poor Otis dead and gone.....

Posted by: Sittin on the Dock at June 03, 2016 04:25 PM (QM5S2)

127 Am I the only person who sees the Obergefell decision as the defining event that emboldened the Left and unleashed this Hell on America?
***
It wasn't the straw that broke the camel's back...its really been a more steady and regular slide into fascism from the Left since not long after the collapse of the Soviet Union. With their former model gone they found a new/old one...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:25 PM (X7E8f)

128 Where is the RNC!!

Or Mitt Romney

Or the Bushes

Where is the outrage

They're at home laughing at the rubes saying they deserve it for not nominating one of their kind.

Posted by: brak at June 03, 2016 04:25 PM (MJuTN)

129 Not that I'm advocating such a course,

but in a perfect world someone would egg Ben Howe and his wife next time they go walking,

and then we could all see after they finished egging him

how Ben and his wife and the egger all sat around and laughed at a prank well-played

and how it was all a jolly good show.

I'm sure that's exactly how it would happen.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 03, 2016 04:25 PM (HGtd0)

130 104 Or egg beaters.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 04:22 PM (IqV8l)

The pint or quart size?
>>>

Either just remember to freeze them.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 03, 2016 04:25 PM (tf9Ne)

131 Plus digging glitter out of one's tits is annoying as hell. I've been told. *shifty eyes*
Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 04:25 PM (mf5HN)

----

Perhaps....... I can help you with that.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 04:26 PM (8XRCm)

132 Or egg beaters.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr
-----------

Omelette pans.

Posted by: Helen Redding at June 03, 2016 04:26 PM (9mTYi)

133 Most LP candidates now are more interested in punishing people with draconian environmental and thought crime laws then doing a damn thing about Leviathan.
Posted by: 18-1

_________

When's the last time you heard any Libertarian talk about ObamaCare? That alone shows you their commitment to smaller government.

At least in my state, they really do seem to be a strategic arm of Soros where they only try to get on the ballot in races that are toss ups where they can serve as a spoiler.

So they strategically avoid districts where their supposed smaller government message would resonate and instead actively try and throw elections to Democrats.

Posted by: Maritime at June 03, 2016 04:26 PM (ak7o9)

134 The libertarian party's outreach to the dopetarians in the 90s led to the former being completely taken over.

If the cost of getting dopetarians into the fight is legalizing their dope ... I'm all in.

As long as they fight.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2016 04:26 PM (fiGNd)

135 The "right of center all-stars" are enraged that the GOP primary voter chose a candidate they ALL think they are smarter than.

Not a big mystery, the butthurt is from the fact that a lot of us who they know can hold their own on the political punditry savvy department refuse to virtue signal that "we are with you guys!"

Yes some cowardice is involved but the primary motivator is I think, laziness intellectually and ego.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 04:26 PM (g8Hfr)

136 Ace, thank you. I had pointed out in a thread earlier, that I became angry watching some of the hand wringing over this last night by some of the #nevertrump twitter people.

They are certainly not to blame for the violence, as they are not the ones out there agitating, but they have contributed to the environment that makes this acceptable, and they have become fellow travelers with these leftist hordes outside Trump events.

While they accuse Trump of inciting this, they are enabling it, by dehumanizing, and mocking Trump supporters with the worst possible terms. Ben Howe has been one of the worst.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at June 03, 2016 04:26 PM (Uy8SG)

137
There are more unemployed Blacks today than ever.

But the unemployment rate is down to 4.7%

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 04:26 PM (IqV8l)

138 Which came first, the Trump or the egg?

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 04:27 PM (2cS/G)

139 I will say this:

Many many years ago, when I was in college, I was walking down the street one evening and a car drove past and I heard a shout and suddenly I felt a brief impact and medium pain on the side of my head, and reach up and felt liquid coursing down my neck.

For a fee seconds I thought I had been shot and was about to die, and I was feeling blood pouring out of my wound.

But I looked down at my hand and saw that it was yellow, and it took a few seconds to realize that it was an egg yolk -- and then I heard laughter and a car full of boys screeched away in the car.

Although I wasn't injured, it seriously was one of the most terrifying moments of my life.

My fear instantly transformed into rage at the boys. In a flash I realized that the road they drove away one was a one-way street that a block later was channeled into a forced left turn that led to another one-way street, and I calculated that they HAD to be at a certain intersection after three blocks of driving -- an intersection that I could reach on foot quickly by going through a back-alley shortcut.

Fueled by a spike in adrenaline I sprinted to that intersection just in time to see the boys there pull up to a red light, and with total unrestrained fury I ran at the car and literally tackled it, threw my arms around the hood and front fender and screamed something incoherent about challenging the attacker to a me-against-all fight right then and there.

Their eyes popped out of their heads is surprise and amazement at my reappearance, and the driver peeled off, running the red light, and flinging me off the hood.

I was injured more by hitting the pavement than I was by the egg.

The nex day my muscles were sore from the PCP-esque top speed sprint I made to the intersection.

I say all this as a way of saying that getting "egged" is no laughing matter. It is seriosuly fucked up.

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 04:27 PM (jBuUi)

140 Spoken like a true Brownshirt, Ben. Bravo.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 04:27 PM (8ZskC)

141 Honestly

Nearly all the masks are off

Prebius and McConnell and Ryan and every single past republican president or presidential candidate should hold a presser and denounce this

It's disgusting

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:27 PM (zOTsN)

142 Ben Howe looks like he sits down to piss

Posted by: brak at June 03, 2016 04:27 PM (MJuTN)

143 Hit somebody with a 5 lb. pork roll and that's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: teh Wind at June 03, 2016 04:28 PM (B3WUC)

144 116 Just a note. Most of these riots are happening in blue cities with very weak self-defense laws. They're much like no-gun zones.
Posted by: Soona

there's a reason Texas doesn't have riots. probably because they know we'd love for them to get froggy.

Posted by: x at June 03, 2016 04:28 PM (nFwvY)

145 Plus digging glitter out of one's tits is annoying as hell. I've been told. *shifty eyes*
Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me

Perhaps....... I can help you with that.

Posted by: fixerupper

The proper technique must, naturally, be documented for training purposes...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 03, 2016 04:28 PM (9krrF)

146 And wax poetic on the evils of blue jeans.
Posted by: wooga
--------

This is about me, isn't?

Posted by: Reverend Blue Jeans at June 03, 2016 04:28 PM (9mTYi)

147 "As long as they fight."

Dopetarians don't fight. Once they get their dope legalized, they turn into stoned and nearly inert Marxist.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 04:28 PM (jLXo8)

148 Yes, a thoughtful verse of Imagine and Amazing Grace would finish off the vigil nicely!

Posted by: PJ at June 03, 2016 04:29 PM (cHuNI)

149 Plenty of unacceptable violence last night. But I'm sorry. I refuse to think of egging (a Halloween prank) as violence against women.

what if it had been a ham sandwich?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:29 PM (qCMvj)

150 Hit somebody with a 5 lb. pork roll and that's gonna leave a mark.
Posted by: teh Wind at June 03, 2016 04:28 PM (B3WUC)

Why would you waste a good 5 lb. pork roll like that?

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 04:29 PM (mf5HN)

151 >>>126 Trump is having a rally in Redding right now.

Poor Otis dead and gone.....

Posted by: Sittin on the Dock at June 03, 2016 04:25 PM (QM5S2)>>>

My home town. I don't think the anti-Trump rioters will want to try for a repeat there ....

Posted by: gm at June 03, 2016 04:29 PM (4ueYo)

152
I believe he is a married man.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Was. Wife kicked his sorry ass to the curb publicly in a Starbucks, because she wanted a real man.

An entertaining story that is googleable, as is his ex's opinion of Life With Ben.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 04:29 PM (kdS6q)

153
"Prebius and McConnell and Ryan and every single past republican
president or presidential candidate should hold a presser and denounce
this"

They need to do more than denounce the violence. They need to denounce the rioters, pointedly. Then invite the Dems to do the same.

Posted by: Hillary! at June 03, 2016 04:29 PM (1BQGO)

154 Cry havoc! And let slip the Hilldogs of war!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 04:29 PM (Nwg0u)

155 Time for the Bush's, ALL of them, to swallow some pride and get off the sidelines and say they are supporting the Republican Nominee. They don't even have to mention his name, just say the Republican Nominee.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:30 PM (Ozsfq)

156 on Jonah's article:

Not a lot there to disagree with....

I even think he is on the verge of "getting it" on Trump...

Trump happened because for a decade when people like me were begging "punch back" the GOP took the Moral High Ground...

now even if we lose I want people hit.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 04:30 PM (g8Hfr)

157 We are becoming a banana republic. Perhaps, "Third world" would be more apt with respect to our politics.

Posted by: Javems at June 03, 2016 04:30 PM (yOqwj)

158 139 Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 04:27 PM (jBuUi)

Years ago, I was mugged by 2 schv-- youths. Got away with $20 and I was unharmed. The next day, I cruised the area with a couple of friends of mine and a few Lousiville Sluggers. They, and maybe me even more, were lucky not to have been there.

I know that kind of rage very well.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:30 PM (p4UlV)

159 If the cost of getting dopetarians into the fight is legalizing their dope ... I'm all in
***
See that's the problem. Now the only libertarian issue the LP cares about is drugs. Otherwise its just another leftwing party....

Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:30 PM (X7E8f)

160 What would happen if one of hillarys! special snow flakes were"egged" at Her rally?Probably by front page news....

Posted by: donna at June 03, 2016 04:30 PM (O2RFr)

161 Dopetarians don't fight. Once they get their dope legalized, they turn into stoned and nearly inert Marxist.
Posted by: Kristophr

Seriously, if weed were legal in all 50 states, these "libertarians" would be at Bernie rallies screaming how they are owed free college.

Posted by: Maritime at June 03, 2016 04:30 PM (ak7o9)

162

*note to self: don't try to do your nails after 3 glasses of wine

TGIF Morons!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:31 PM (qCMvj)

163 I saw one account that she (and several other Trump supporters) "provoked" them.That makes it alright.No?

Posted by: steevy at June 03, 2016 04:31 PM (B48dK)

164 If the cost of getting dopetarians into the fight is legalizing their dope ... I'm all in.

As long as they fight.

Oh, they're in the fight. On the wrong side.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 03, 2016 04:31 PM (9krrF)

165 Dear God, please let them pull this shit somewhere near me in Texas.

I don't get to the range enough.

Amen.

Posted by: Blano at June 03, 2016 04:31 PM (NX95f)

166
Ben Howe thinks it's all her fault:

[pic]

twitter.com/ThankYouDonald/status/738746114417905666

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 04:31 PM (kdS6q)

167 Plenty of unacceptable violence last night. But I'm sorry. I refuse to think of egging (a Halloween prank) as violence against women.

would they remember to show up?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (qCMvj)

168 Dack Thrombosis: "What we really need right now is someone wearing a bow tie to explain how tax cuts will get us out of this mess."

Heh.

And, unforgivably, that has been the M.O. from "conservatives" for decades.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (1CroS)

169 163 I saw one account that she (and several other Trump supporters) "provoked" them.That makes it alright.No?
Posted by: steevy at June 03, 2016 04:31 PM (B48dK)

Provoked means just showing up and being white.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (p4UlV)

170 163 I saw one account that she (and several other Trump supporters) "provoked" them.That makes it alright.No?

Yes. She had a Trump tee shirt on at a Trump rally...

Posted by: donna at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (O2RFr)

171 Are they really intellectuals or are they proving themselves otherwise? Methinks it's the latter.

An "intellectual" possesses a high capacity for thought and knowledge. The learn from facts and circumstances. They don't engage in baseless supposition clouded by their own personal proclivities.

Today's people calling themselves "conservatives" and intellectuals are nothing of the sort. They are largely people with an axe to grind who have hid behind pseudo-intellectualism as a guise for their personal adventures.

Most of these people wouldn't know, much less understand a Hume or Locke if either kicked them in the balls.

I think you'll find many in the #nevertrump crowd quite specious in their arguments. They're not driven by cogent argument. They are driven by pathos, ego, an unwillingness to let go of their predilections and leave the safety of their fraudulent lairs they've built on websites, TV, "think tanks or Congress for that matter.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (O0lVq)

172 Republican Party silent as their voters are beaten.

Beaten

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (zOTsN)

173 Plus digging glitter out of one's tits is annoying as hell. I've been told. *shifty eyes*

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 04:25 PM (mf5HN)

Stop going to the seedier strip clubs.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (LUG6K)

174 Getting fired from your day job, or even arrested, for advancing the left's cause will generally launch the career of a left wing activist.

Until something like that exists on the right side their won't be many conservative activists.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:13 PM (X7E8f)

Uhh, yeah. This.

We have to go to work. Lots of fReEsHiT!!11 to pay for.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (Ycgco)

175 I say all this as a way of saying that getting "egged" is no laughing matter.

In this political atmosphere, getting egged is an overt threat; today an egg, tomorrow an ax handle if you show up here again.

Posted by: Wong Chu at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (yZ0Uj)

176 Provoked means just showing up and being white.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (p4UlV)

And breathing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (Ozsfq)

177 Trump happened because for a decade when people like me were begging "punch back" the GOP took the Moral High Ground...
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I don't think being paid off/blackmailed is quite the same thing as the Moral High Ground.

Anyone doubt that Hastert's "extra curricular" activies, for example, were fully known to at least some on the left?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (X7E8f)

178 Heaven help us once the left starts getting blooded & gets a taste for it.

Posted by: Zhytamyr at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (91nzM)

179 What's the big deal? A few broken windows on some Jew stores is just a Halloween prank.

Posted by: Ben Howe at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (8ZskC)

180
But the unemployment rate is down to 4.7%

Yeah, what a farce obama's BLS has become. This 4.7% unemployment has got to be the Biggest Lie since I don't know when.

Hitler, obama's mentor, apparently, spoke of a Big Lie so "colossal" that no one would believe anyone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

500K able-bodied Americans in their prime working age have left the workforce. They left. Where'd they go? They didn't go anywhere except on the dole. 95 Million Americans do not work today. That is just shocking.

We, obama, actually, has created a 62% participation rate in the workforce! 62%!! That is atrocious.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 04:33 PM (jK3b3)

181 Remember the New Black Panther Party poll watchers?�Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:17

I remember it well. The dude was brandishing a 'billy club'. A device for rendering the recipient unconscious. But the knob-slobbing media decided to refer to it as a stancion(sp?). A word unknown to about 99.99% of Americans.

Yeah, that wasn't intended.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 04:33 PM (ZnIt3)

182 Seriously, if weed were legal in all 50 states, these "libertarians" would be at Bernie rallies screaming how they are owed free college.
Posted by: Maritime at June 03, 2016 04:30 PM (ak7o9)

Would they remember to show up?

People are going to become zombies, but at least they won't even vote at that point.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:33 PM (qCMvj)

183 One of the great byproducts of Trump is the exposure of all the closet leftist "conservative media" types. Fuck them all. And fuck Ben Howe in particular.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 04:33 PM (0LHZx)

184 The media has soft pedaled this. It will mean jackshit unless the mayor and chief of police apologize for their awful comments and lack of response. The goons must be arrested and prosecuted.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 04:33 PM (iQIUe)

185 Cops arent stupid. They also have intelligence on the ground. So, why didnt they do anything to protect those people?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 04:23 PM (iQIUe)

Cops are more familiar than anyone with how corrupt the judicial system is under liberal administrations.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 03, 2016 04:33 PM (wYnyS)

186 Republican Party silent as their voters are beaten.

Beaten
Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (zOTsN)

I'm with you, but I think we both need a drink.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:33 PM (Ozsfq)

187 It's gonna be a long summer, folks.

Posted by: Lurkette at June 03, 2016 04:33 PM (PLmfk)

188 Heaven help us once the left starts getting blooded & gets a taste for it.

When the left gets "blooded", they'll be crying to make it stop.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 04:34 PM (yCZVl)

189 The left may disagree with you Ace, but they'll die protecting your right to...

oh, who am I fuckin' kidding.

They are cowards and lemmings who will cheer their own way to the firing squads.

Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 04:34 PM (VGG67)

190 159 Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:30 PM (X7E8f)

Correct the Libertines will explain to you earnestly that totalitarianism is awesomesauce so long as it is voluntary.

The decision was made in 2001 to infiltrate and neutralize them, and few remaining Libertarians there are living in a delusion they are JUST around the corner from finally thwarting the super state.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 04:34 PM (g8Hfr)

191 Ace, I think one of the problems you might be having in understanding the left right now is that I think many are dealing with serious psychological issues.

Not just your run of the mill stuff; they've been using every freaking bizarre defense mechanism there is since 9/1//2001 to justify their beliefs and actions.

Basically, we're trying to reason with people who have been psychologically unstable for over almost 15 years, and I'm not really sure that can ever work.

/pig-dance-waste of time- annoying to pig

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 03, 2016 04:34 PM (AHDxb)

192 Republican Party silent as their voters are beaten.

Beaten
Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (zOTsN)

What makes you think they think of them - and us - as their voters in the first place?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:34 PM (p4UlV)

193 Seriously, if weed were legal in all 50 states, these "libertarians"
would be at Bernie rallies screaming how they are owed free college.
___
And fritos man. Don't forget the right to free-tos. [giggle] That's some funny shit. Now give me the shit I want man.

Posted by: Some Dopetarian at June 03, 2016 04:34 PM (X7E8f)

194 Remember the New Black Panther Party poll watchers?Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:17

so is the answer wearing Black Panther Party T-Shirts For Trump carrying a billyclub?

(oy, pixy is acting up)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:35 PM (qCMvj)

195 Someone above commented that it's time for us to just "man up."

Basically, yes. I can't tell you how many people I saw last night get hit and then not hit back. If you don't hit back, you're gonna get hit even more. Effect, meet Cause.

There are thousands of us at these rallies. There is no excuse for that woman who was attacked to have been walking alone, or for her attack to go without reprisal from our side. Same for that kid who had to run through the crowd by himself and was chased. Shit, I saw one guy get hit by a dude *smaller than him* and then just walk away sheepishly. Honestly, it was like watching a couple hundred ISIS goons back down a 50,000+ strong Iraqi Army. Pathetic.

So, yeah, "man up" is fucking right.

1: Leave the kids at home; rallies are war now. Sorry if you don't want war, but war is upon you.

2: Bring your tasers and pepper spray, and use them liberally.

3: When hit, hit back. And when you see someone hit, hit back for that person while they also hit back--and have plenty of people with you.

4: When you're pinned in, drive through or get a group and bust through.

In other words, stop being fucking pussies. We're the rugged, traditional, alpha Americans and the left are the betas? Oh, really? Well then we'd better act like it, because that's not what it looked like last night.

The left won't stop what they do until they get a dose of it.

Posted by: Anti Antifa at June 03, 2016 04:35 PM (uy6fc)

196 I really think that when you're at the point of saying "Everyone around me is stupid, wicked, racist, and evil," you should

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Stop posting on the Democratic Underground and fine a site that can distinguish Shinola.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 04:35 PM (Nwg0u)

197 Soon they will be warning about "backlash" against Mexicans.

Posted by: steevy at June 03, 2016 04:35 PM (B48dK)

198 These intellectuals, they have intellectual stammer, of course. Ahhh, ahhh, I say, ahh, ahh. That means they're smart. Rush went on about this yesterday.

Watch any old episodes of firing line, with Buckley arguing with a bunch of leftist lunatic intellectuals. Buckley himself was a hoot, if you noticed his mannerisms, and the bad haired, insanely dressed leftwing lunatic professors of leftist lunacy made him look normal.

And you realize, these people are supposed to be the best and brightest? They're freakin' freak show lunatics run amok.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 03, 2016 04:35 PM (DW+jj)

199 These hardcore #NeverTrump people are the fucking pits.

What a nasty bunch of little pricks.

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at June 03, 2016 04:35 PM (N7G17)

200 Egging a woman is NOT violence in Obama's America, but watching a tranny dude walk into a little girl's restroom and lifting an eyebrow, John Belushi-like, in reproach, is a Crime Against Humanity.

Got it.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 03, 2016 04:35 PM (rW2a0)

201 They are cowards and lemmings who will cheer their own way to the firing squads.

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We'll be shot last! Yay for us!

Posted by: Your Betters at the MSM at June 03, 2016 04:35 PM (AHDxb)

202
The beating of your voters, that must not be the hill to die on

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:35 PM (zOTsN)

203 177 Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (X7E8f)

Then you purge his ass.

Yeah I agree in part though.

I was being generous.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 04:36 PM (g8Hfr)

204 194 Remember the New Black Panther Party poll watchers?Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:17

so is the answer wearing Black Panther Party T-Shirts For Trump carrying a billyclub?

(oy, pixy is acting up)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:35 PM (qCMvj)

Can't remember the nub of the exchange, but I posted that in response to someone who wrote that there was no intimidation in '08.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:36 PM (p4UlV)

205 Until the Progressives and the Left see the Conservatives and the Right as being dangerous, this will continue. Right now, they are just Prey.

Posted by: kraken at June 03, 2016 04:36 PM (sdxPm)

206
I'm with you, but I think we both need a drink.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:33 PM (Ozsfq)

*cheers*

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:36 PM (qCMvj)

207 "I refuse to think of egging (a Halloween prank) as violence against women."

Being struck in an eye by a thrown egg can cause serious injury. Have seen that happen live and in real time.

Not to mention that the woman in question also had rocks and bottles thrown at her.

Ben Howe is one of those pajama-boy sorts who I suspect hasn't ever been in a serious fight in his entire life. Talks tough to cover the fact.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 04:36 PM (noWW6)

208 I expect that some day, one of the anti Trump protesters will be shot and killed, but the damage will have been done before it's shown that it was a radical leftist who fired the shot.
Ben Gitlow, author of "The Whole of Their Lives", one of the original members of the CPUSA, later thrown out for deviate thoughts or something like that, described a commie rally in Manhattan's lower east side one day in the '20s. Several bricks were thrown off a roof, killing one person and injuring others. You can imagine what the commie speakers did with that. According to Gitlow, it was party members who threw the bricks because they knew that a riot would follow.

Posted by: mallflower at June 03, 2016 04:36 PM (qSIlh)

209 And who the fuck is Ben Howe that we should even consider what he says? Has he proved to be some paramount of knowledge, some useful oracle that cuts through the depravity and chaos with some truly revealing thought?

No, he's just another clown from the toxic clown circus, peddling bullshit and knowledge he either read on a website or misrepresents due to his lack of an ability to understand.

Frankly, who gave these people the power they should even be considered?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 03, 2016 04:36 PM (O0lVq)

210 OK I was the one that said man up....and I know the Red Sox's used "Cowboy Up" so that's out.

How about let's "Trump Up"?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (Ozsfq)

211 But a smart one. Out of the media's eyes. There only a few that are organizing this. Find them. Roll up the network.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 03, 2016 04:12 PM (u82oZ)

That's what we need, some right wing street thugs to fight these scum.

Posted by: Blano at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (NX95f)

212 Watch any old episodes of firing line, with Buckley arguing with a bunch of leftist lunatic intellectuals.
***
I remember when Gore Vidal called him a NAZI and he threatened to deck Gore if he repeated it.

When we the last time you remember a conservative intellectual respond like that?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (X7E8f)

213
Ben Howe has been added to the List Of Shits.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (jK3b3)

214
I think you'll find many in the #nevertrump crowd quite specious in their arguments. They're not driven by cogent argument. They are driven by pathos, ego, an unwillingness to let go of their predilections and leave the safety of their fraudulent lairs they've built on websites, TV, "think tanks or Congress for that matter.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (O0lVq)

One word is enough: Pride

Posted by: Ed Anger at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (RcpcZ)

215 Ben Howe is so invested in being anti-Trump -- a position I can sympathize with -- that he can no longer see past that position. Thus, he simply waves off a clear case of assault because to acknowledge and denounce it might help the guy he is working against. It's pathetic.

Posted by: holygoat at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (DbBV5)

216 @79 My roommate from school is a Secret Service agent. They're rather worried about what is reasonably likely to happen this year on the campaign trail.
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I would not be surprised if "the late" Trump's VP ends up as the one being sworn in next January. There's enough hatred and vitriol out there that I strongly suspect there are people out there making serious plans to attempt an assassination.

Posted by: junior at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (mUM5y)

217
Halloween is Druid cultural appropriation. Up yours, Howe.

And Howe, you stole that name from Injuns!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (p4UlV)

218 Only thing I see about the riots on CNN is how they claim Clinton eviscerated Trump by blaming him for the riots.

Posted by: gm at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (4ueYo)

219
Provoked means just showing up and being white.

Alt-white.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 04:38 PM (IqV8l)

220
Who is Ben Howe and is he serious? If so , I volunteer to egg the fuck out of him.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 04:08 PM (V8uX9)

That mewling quim would immediately scream about assault and press charges faster than a teenage boy would jump on a willing, nude Kate Upton.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 03, 2016 04:38 PM (gl5Kd)

221 Trump calls them thugs. Crowd chants build the wall.

For goodness sake, take the gloves off. They are beating your voters

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:38 PM (zOTsN)

222 Ben.

How.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at June 03, 2016 04:38 PM (VGG67)

223 If we're peaceful and turn the other cheek, violence is committed against us and we're called Nazis. When we start punching back, we're called Nazis. Yeah, what names we're called is no longer a good reason not to make a the left bleed anymore. Especially when they're seeking us out to start fights.

I won't be letting any opportunities to righteously punch back (figuratively and literally) pass by anymore. I don't seek them out or start trouble in their own spaces. They want to hear Hillary or feel the Bern at a rally, more power to them. When they come to rallies I am attending to harm and intimidate me and my family, I will make sure I am not the only one afraid of my fellow American by the end of the day.

Because that's where we are now.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 03, 2016 04:38 PM (S2VsH)

224 208 Well yeah,false flag creation of "martyrs" is a leftist staple.

Posted by: steevy at June 03, 2016 04:38 PM (B48dK)

225 People will die and someone is going to have and gun and I think justified in using it.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 03, 2016 04:38 PM (c4yY7)

226 OK I was the one that said man up....and I know the Red Sox's used "Cowboy Up" so that's out.

How about let's "Trump Up"?

I'm liking "lock and load".

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 03, 2016 04:38 PM (9krrF)

227 These hardcore #NeverTrump people are the fucking pits.

What a nasty bunch of little pricks.
Posted by: Mr Wonderful at June 03, 2016 04:35 PM (N7G17)

I don't care that they won't vote for Trump, but they do seem quite childish.

And, I'll say it again. It's silly to think that a vote for anyone but Trump will not skew the vote in favor of Hillary. We have been pounded into submission for this before by the GOP. Now it's acceptable?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:38 PM (qCMvj)

228 209 Posted by: Marcus T at June 03, 2016 04:36 PM (O0lVq)

Ben Howe is a "kept" conservative by CNN....

there are a LOT of "kept" conservatives stress on the "con" including SE "DD" Cupp

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 04:39 PM (g8Hfr)

229 Posted by: junior at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (mUM5y)

Yeah well I still don't think you should write stuff like that. Not yelling at you, just a suggestion

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:39 PM (Ozsfq)

230 212 When we the last time you remember a conservative intellectual respond like that?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (X7E8f)

Warcock telling Leaky Leahy to get fucked.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:39 PM (p4UlV)

231 The average age of an "empire" is 250 years. (Glubb)

The US is approaching that number. Hence:

"Second- or third-generation foreign immigrants may appear outwardly to be entirely assimilated, but they often constitute a weakness in two directions. First, their basic human nature often differs from that of
the original imperial stock. If the earlier imperial race was stubborn and slow moving, the immigrants might come from more emotional races, thereby introducing
cracks and schisms into the national policies, even if all were equally loyal."

From Sir John Glubb; "The Fate of Empires"

http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

It makes for interesting reading.

Posted by: Russtovich at June 03, 2016 04:39 PM (pFXle)

232 3: When hit, hit back.

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To everything
Turn turn turn
There is another cheek
Turn turn turn.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 04:39 PM (Nwg0u)

233 >>>215 Ben Howe is so invested in being anti-Trump -- a position I can sympathize with -- that he can no longer see past that position. Thus, he simply waves off a clear case of assault because to acknowledge and denounce it might help the guy he is working against. It's pathetic.

Posted by: holygoat at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (DbBV5)>>>

Maybe he'd change his mind if people were waiting outside his house to pelt him with eggs every morning.

Posted by: gm at June 03, 2016 04:39 PM (4ueYo)

234 None of this would happen if Jeb Bush was our GOP banner carrier.

Posted by: Ben Howe at June 03, 2016 04:39 PM (8ZskC)

235

And, dare I say it, Ted Cruz denouncing Mitch McCocksickle as a liar to his face in the well of the Senate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:39 PM (p4UlV)

236
Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 04:27 PM (jBuUi)

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Had a similar experience. Was furious with myself afterwards that I didn't think of ripping off the wiper blades and scratching the paint with them. It was a bunch of kids in a nice BMW.

I still dream of having a do-over, after all these years.

Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 04:40 PM (pC96u)

237
Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEMZSn8iLr4

Ben Howe approves of this.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 04:40 PM (kdS6q)

238 226 OK I was the one that said man up....and I know the Red Sox's used "Cowboy Up" so that's out.

Well shit ... I was kinda' hoping I was the guilty party.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2016 04:40 PM (fiGNd)

239 Also, Ben Howe's wife and/or girlfriends, from now until the end of time, are legitimate egg targets. Because as Ben himself insists, "it's not violence".

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 03, 2016 04:40 PM (S2VsH)

240 Seriously. This is the most antiamerican thing ever

Somebody should make an ad of Hillary saying Trump voters "aren't who we are"

And then show several minutes of leftist riots and the text "no, this is who they are"

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:41 PM (zOTsN)

241 They are very lucky - VERY. LUCKY. - the majority of the American people are decent, patient and law-abiding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:15 PM (p4UlV)

You're kinder than I am. I think the left has not been called to account yet because the majority of the American people are lazy, uninterested in politics unless they think the pols are going to take a bene away from them, and ignorant of the issues at hand. A riot? Yawn, let's change the channel and see what the Kardashians are up to.

I didn't used to think that way. I started to when Obama was reelected.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 04:41 PM (u0lmX)

242 239 Also, Ben Howe's wife and/or girlfriends, from now until the end of time, are legitimate egg targets. Because as Ben himself insists, "it's not violence".
Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 03, 2016 04:40 PM (S2VsH)

I would never do that, nor condone anyone doing that. But I'd laugh my ass off if someone did.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:41 PM (p4UlV)

243
I expect the violence will get worse, perhaps deadly. The worst thing is nothing will change because of it. But I do expect a Trump supporter to be killed between now and election day. The police in these blue cities are useless shits.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 04:41 PM (jK3b3)

244 Yes, Buckley had some testosterone. Which seems to be pretty much purged, drained from everyone, our side (supposed) included now. No, we can't have that, it's crude, brutish, and anti-woman. Our guys think like this just as much as the lefties.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 03, 2016 04:41 PM (DW+jj)

245 Maybe Jimmy Kimmel can invite Ben Howe onto his show and have a minor league pitcher throw eggs at him. Just so Ben can show us how fun and pranky egg throwing is.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 03, 2016 04:41 PM (tf9Ne)

246 239 Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 03, 2016 04:40 PM (S2VsH)

Point of order his wife left him....

she'd be an innocent bystander.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 04:41 PM (g8Hfr)

247 So, Red State has no problem with Ben Howe's bullshit?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (iQIUe)

248

Doth Ben Howe protest too much?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (qCMvj)

249 Well shit ... I was kinda' hoping I was the guilty party.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2016 04:40 PM (find)

You can have the credit but we should still come up with a catchy phrase to use. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (Ozsfq)

250 >>>We have been pounded into submission for this before by the GOP. Now it's acceptable?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:38 PM (qCMvj)>>>

I'm always being told by the GOP that I just *have to* vote for the big government Republican nominee. ANd if I don't, the country will be lost. I keep doing it and the country is lost anyway. I barely got myself to do it in 2012. Still haven't made my decision in 2016.

Posted by: gm at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (4ueYo)

251 Gee, the GOP leadership is really up in arms about this attack on the 1st Amendment rights of its members, isn't it?

*crickets*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (8ZskC)

252 "Republican Party silent as their voters are beaten."

The establishment GOP didn't say boo in 2008 when burly New Black Panther Party members, carrying weapons, told elderly white voters to scram from Philly polling places.

The establishment GOP emitted not a peep in 2008, nor again in 2012, as the SEIU "purple people beater" goons sent counterdemonstrators to the hospital, and into wheelchairs.

Why would the establishment GOP speak up now? In addition to their traditional reticence in these matters, in this specific instance, the GOP establishment hate Trump. The left are attacking Trump's base. It doesn't take a ballpoint pen to connect those dots.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (noWW6)

253 241 Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 04:41 PM (u0lmX)

Hope you're wrong. Fear you're right.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (p4UlV)

254 So, how is it supposed to work, this "push back" against the anti-Trump Protesters? You bring your neighbor/friend/spouse to a Trump event to convince him or her that Trump is not a threat, doesn't condone political violence, etc. and then you beat the flippers off the guy who whips an egg at her head? I can totally picture that happening to me, so in some sense, the anti-Trumpers have won. I'll still vote for the buffoon, but I'm not going to pressure anyone else into putting their health/safety at risk to do it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (2cS/G)

255 I don't want to lead an angry mob, though I will be willing to join one.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (evdj2)

256 Ben Howe is so invested in being anti-Trump -- a
position I can sympathize with -- that he can no longer see past that
position. Thus, he simply waves off a clear case of assault because to
acknowledge and denounce it might help the guy he is working against.
It's pathetic.

Posted by: holygoat at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (DbBV5)

I'm seeing a lot of that. There's a very sage piece of advice that says, "Never let your ego get so close to your position that when your position goes, your ego goes with it." The NeverTrumpers have invested their egos completely into their position.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (GUBah)

257 Stop going to the seedier strip clubs.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 03, 2016 04:32 PM (LUG6K)

I DO WHAT I WANT!

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (mf5HN)

258 OK I was the one that said man up....and I know the Red Sox's used "Cowboy Up" so that's out.

Red Sox? Boston Red Socks?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (yCZVl)

259
Look, those thugs just got away with what they did in San Jose, plus all the other violence at previous rallies.

They are emboldened thanks to the media, the mayors, the police, and the Democrats, and the mime Republicans.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (jK3b3)

260 Remember this thing called chaos. This is their goal. They need it.

Posted by: Soona at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (Fmupd)

261 his wife left him....
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 04:41 PM (g8Hfr)

No kidding? I'm going to paint myself the color of shocked.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (S2VsH)

262 Also, Ben Howe's wife and/or girlfriends, from now until the end of time, are legitimate egg targets.

Glitter, or yolk?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (8ZskC)

263 Like Michael Corleone did when the fix was in at the hospital. Trump needs to go to some liberal hotbed for a rally. Hire licensed, badge carrying security with permits to carry. Let them be armed with shotguns, firehoses, and full riot gear. When the shenanigans start, put some bodies on the pavement. If the rioters don't get the message, there may be some blood.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (7YZyt)

264 anyway, the people behind the left probably think that this could be their last chance to win it all. If Hillery gets to the Oval Office, as I've said here previously, the first amendment will be gutted on the grounds that Congress has a reasonable right to take steps to eliminate the corrupting influence of BIG Money on out elections, and the second amendment will be interpreted to mean 'the right of the people while serving in an official state militia." Expect your 401k and other private retirement accounts to be nationalized, for your own good, expect laws and regulations that will leave Hillery in her mansion in Chappaqua while the rest of us slowly get pushed into "smart cities" (with lots of smart municipal unions), expect laws to save the planet that make gasoline go to 8 or 10 dollars a gallon, etc

Posted by: mallflower at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (qSIlh)

265 "I refuse to think of egging (a Halloween prank) as violence against women."

-
I refuse to think of using a baseball bat (the great American past time) as violence.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (Nwg0u)

266 Cops should understand that the white middle class, especially those that live in safe neighborhoods and own firearms, are perhaps the citizens least in need of cops.

I suspect that middle class whites are likely more well-disposed to the cops than other segments of our society.

After watching the cops stand by in Chicago and San Jose as Trump supporters were battered, some middle class whites may revisit their support for the cops.

Posted by: need more coffee at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (m/Gc2)

267 I don't want to lead an angry mob, though I will be willing to join one.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (evdj2)

Lead, Follow, or get out of the way

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:44 PM (Ozsfq)

268 The average age of an "empire" is 250 years. (Glubb)

The US is approaching that number. Hence:

-----

I was think about this just this morning.

How does the "American Empire" end???

A gradual withering of will and power?? Death by a thousand cuts like the British Empire???

Or defeated and crashed like the Roman Empire at the hands of the Gauls and Vandals, creating a power vaccuum that ushered in the Dark Ages??

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 04:44 PM (8XRCm)

269 I don't give a shit about anti-Trump protesters being maced, if the police are doing it. My rationale is fairly straight forward: If the police are macing the protesters then I'm gonna give a lot of leeway to the police in believing that the protesters did something to merit it.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 04:44 PM (4ng05)

270
And speaking of California, the state legislature politburo is about to approve a law that essentially eliminates the 1st Amendment.

Anyone questioning global warming/climate change could be prosecuted and face fines and penalties.

239 years. Fun while it lasted.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:44 PM (p4UlV)

271 Democrat/Socialist/Communist leaders need to be held accountable and tied to their supporters actions - not a word from Dem leadership to stop the violence and crime their members commit

Posted by: Henry Hotlove at June 03, 2016 04:45 PM (AZOJV)

272 Lincolntf: If some goon throws an egg, you pepper spray him.

If you are attacked, you use countervailing force.

You don't bring non-combatants, since the left has turned brownshirt, and you have to use force now to defend your first amendment rights.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 04:45 PM (jLXo8)

273 "Are we now gaming out which principles we should speak a word in favor of according to which candidate might indirectly benefit from our utterances...?"

It's worse. People like Howe want to explore how much they can excuse/support "unjustified violence" (interesting phrase, really). A significant minority if not majority of the decayed on line Right would outright celebrate Trump's assassination, perhaps not openly but even that's not a given.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 03, 2016 04:45 PM (P/lgq)

274 See to the left anyone who disagrees with them is an unperson. And you can't commit violence against a unperson. By disagreeing with the leftist the unperson has shed his humanity, and thus the protections of civilized norms which are reserved exclusively for the leftist elites and their victim dujour.

Posted by: Iblis at June 03, 2016 04:45 PM (+e5cK)

275
I DO WHAT I WANT!

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 04:42 PM (mf5HN)

Then at least take us with you.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at June 03, 2016 04:45 PM (LUG6K)

276 "Republican Party silent as their voters are beaten."

They were silent after the Dems called every GOP gun owner (and Sarah Palin in particular) responsible for the shooting of Gabby Giffords. They're cowards who hate us.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 03, 2016 04:45 PM (S2VsH)

277 You can suppress the vote by making people afraid. That's why the RNC and all republican leadership must speak out

Unless they agree with this conduct

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:45 PM (zOTsN)

278 You can have the credit but we should still come up with a catchy phrase to use. Any suggestions?

Naw ... I'll follow you on this. And honestly ... who asks a Redneck Engineer to come up with an inspiring catch-phrase ?

I have no idea how to start a rebellion. Really don't. Pretty sure I know how to join one.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2016 04:46 PM (fiGNd)

279 Oh, and speaking from some experience, I'd like to see if Howe would change his mind about being surrounded when the shit starts being strewn in the breeze.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 04:46 PM (4ng05)

280
LogCabinRepublicans

Last night in CA an angry mob attacked gay Latino Trump supporter Log Cabin Republicans member Juan Hernandez

twitter.com/LogCabinGOP/status/738811229377056773

Ben Howe approves of this.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 04:46 PM (kdS6q)

281 Sooner or later, this is going to happen in a State where concealed carry is legal. The person exercising it will be the one picking up someone who has attended a rally, and is being assaulted, and as we know, the rallies are "gun free zones".

Then it gets ugly. Pretty soon we are going to stop putting up with the lefts violence towards us. At that time, the left loses.

Posted by: Izapole at June 03, 2016 04:46 PM (uyUBX)

282 Egging is okay?!?!?!?!??

Seriously? If its cool to egg Trump supporters now, next week Ben Howe will wake up to his car being covered in egg.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 04:46 PM (UBBWX)

283 270
And speaking of California, the state legislature politburo is about to approve a law that essentially eliminates the 1st Amendment.

Anyone questioning global warming/climate change could be prosecuted and face fines and penalties.

239 years. Fun while it lasted.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:44 PM (p4UlV)

-----------------

I thought I read something yesterday that this bill has been tabled.

Posted by: Soona at June 03, 2016 04:46 PM (Fmupd)

284
276 "Republican Party silent as their voters are beaten."

They were silent after the Dems called every GOP gun owner (and Sarah Palin in particular) responsible for the shooting of Gabby Giffords. They're cowards who hate us.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 03, 2016 04:45 PM (S2VsH)

They secretly, or not so secretly cheered Lerner and Koskinen. Meh, maybe they were conspiring with them all along.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:46 PM (p4UlV)

285 Democrat/Socialist/Communist leaders need to be held accountable and tied to their supporters actions - not a word from Dem leadership to stop the violence and crime their members commit

Umm, yeah, we'll get right on that, sport.

*picks nose again, examines booger carefully in the sunlight*

Posted by: The MSM, America's Proud Watchdog of Democracy at June 03, 2016 04:46 PM (8ZskC)

286
See to the left anyone who disagrees with them is an unperson. And you can't commit violence against a unperson.

I remember one of their sayings was "no free speech for fascists." And, of course, anyone who disagrees with them is a fascist.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 04:47 PM (IqV8l)

287 I was think about this just this morning.

How does the "American Empire" end???

A gradual withering of will and power?? Death by a thousand cuts like the British Empire???

Or defeated and crashed like the Roman Empire at the hands of the
Gauls and Vandals, creating a power vaccuum that ushered in the Dark
Ages??
---

I'm thinking a combination of the totalitarianism of "1984" with the free sex and drugs of "Brave New World."

We all belong to one another, and Big Brother is watching each and every one of us.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at June 03, 2016 04:47 PM (AHDxb)

288 It's really not that complicated. The people who have told us for years their brethren from the 60's, who spit on my family coming back from Vietnam or disrupted their funerals when they came home were exercising their basic Americans Rights. Ditto when their radical brethren were blowing up police stations or even as of late attacking the police as a form of "protest".

Now they assault people in a peaceful setting because they don't like what they say, and douchebags like Ben Howe stand up with them and thinks it's all just great.

There is no logic. Just people's personal dishonesty and willing to use violence or whatever means are available to further their personal proclivities.

Most of us call that autocratic, or in this case fraudulent as to the cause they've purported to support.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 03, 2016 04:47 PM (O0lVq)

289 283 I thought I read something yesterday that this bill has been tabled.
Posted by: Soona at June 03, 2016 04:46 PM (Fmupd)

Next to the coffee and danish. Levin teed off on it on yesterday's show.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:47 PM (p4UlV)

290 I refuse to think of using a baseball bat (the great American past time) as violence.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (Nwg0u)

That you, Al?
https://youtu.be/Xy3MtznDeqg

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 04:47 PM (GUBah)

291
But not all the Repuplicans are silent all the time. Some do speak up. And when these few Republicans do speak up IT'S ALWAYS TO TAKE THE WRONG SIDE.

Most recently, Nikki Haley, who is a major league shit-for-brains.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 04:47 PM (jK3b3)

292 They need to use this footage in ads

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (zOTsN)

293 Trump can afford to rent a battalion of Pinkertons and should. We are in Times of Future Past here.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (evdj2)

294 After watching the cops stand by in Chicago and San Jose as Trump supporters were battered, some middle class whites may revisit their support for the cops.

Posted by: need more coffee at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (m/Gc2)

I doubt it. The mayor ordered them to stand down, if reports are correct, yet several protesters were arrested and at least one was charged with a felony.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (4ng05)

295 Or defeated and crashed like the Roman Empire at the hands of the Gauls and Vandals, creating a power vaccuum that ushered in the Dark Ages??
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 04:44 PM (8XRCm

Vandals.

Yep. When the EBT crashes, it is the end. A free for all.

Posted by: Golfman at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (48QDY)

296 If I were Trump, for the first debate with Hillary, I'd find the blonde lady in the jersey who got egged and plonk her ass right down in the front row right behind the journos running the debate.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (IgmR9)

297 "215 Ben Howe is so invested in being anti-Trump -- a position I can sympathize with -- that he can no longer see past that position. Thus, he simply waves off a clear case of assault because to acknowledge and denounce it might help the guy he is working against. It's pathetic.
Posted by: holygoat at June 03, 2016 04:37 PM (DbBV5)"

that is 100% on point. I totally get it, you can't vote for the guy, great, stay home, vote for someone else whatever. Howe I guess is voting for HRC... godspeed, no one should take him seriously as a conservative. He and his ilk have elevated #nevertrump to a religion.

Even Erickson is slinking back from the ledge.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (Uy8SG)

298 We have been pounded into submission for this before by the GOP. Now it's acceptable?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 03, 2016 04:38 PM (qCMvj)

*scccccrrriiiittttccchhhh*

This is me being a broken record on this.

I can very easily respect the position of I cannot vote for Trump because Trump is awful.

I cannot, do not and will not respect any of those who did the emotional blackmail of YOU MUST VOTE GOP OR IT'S A VOTE FOR THE DEMS OMG HOW CAN YOU NOT VOTE GOP THE GOP IS OWED YOUR VOTE who are now all but my deep and abiding principles demand that I not vote for Trump because he is so awful and no, that's not a contradiction in the slightest because I say so.

Yeah that's not a position, that's a stance and sod off, swampy with that.

Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (mf5HN)

299 285 *picks nose again, examines booger carefully in the sunlight*
Posted by: The MSM, America's Proud Watchdog of Democracy at June 03, 2016 04:46 PM (8ZskC)

Main course at a North Korean drive through, walk through, crawl through.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (p4UlV)

300 Trump can afford to rent a battalion of Pinkertons and should. We are in Times of Future Past here.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (evdj2)

Yeah but I think the Secret Service might have a problem with that? LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:49 PM (Ozsfq)

301 What the hell happened to Ben Howe? He's so twisted now he thinks it's ok to pelt people with shit because of their political beliefs? Fuck him. It's not a prank. It's something that deserves an elbow to the face for in retaliation.

Posted by: WTF at June 03, 2016 04:49 PM (sGRO7)

302 Ben Howe's anti-Trumpism has gone too far when he's willing to be so callous about a woman getting attacked. That video didn't show a prank.

I can't stand Trump, or Hillary. I dislike Sanders less, but his acolytes include the revolutionary Occupy fringe and that group is intolerable.

Violence has absolutely no place in American elections. That's a bell that is very hard to un-ring.

Posted by: Sulla at June 03, 2016 04:49 PM (yzic7)

303 Weimar! Get your red hot Weimars here!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 04:49 PM (Nwg0u)

304 261 Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (S2VsH)

Yes, Ben proudly has "single father" on his twitter bio...wonder if he is custodial parent....

Ben has never been an intellect, and now he is not even a moral voice.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 04:49 PM (g8Hfr)

305 Going godwin here but, Hitler and SA didn't arise in a vacuum. They were a response to the riots and violence of the Communists. The German political establishment accepted their assistance and lost control of them.

These lefty clowns are almost guaranteeing a Trump victory with their antics; he should be paying them to attack middle aged white women while waving Mexican flags.

Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 04:50 PM (Doh4+)

306 294 After watching the cops stand by in Chicago and San Jose as Trump supporters were battered, some middle class whites may revisit their support for the cops.

Posted by: need more coffee at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (m/Gc2)

I doubt it. The mayor ordered them to stand down, if reports are correct, yet several protesters were arrested and at least one was charged with a felony.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (4ng05)

Doubt away.
See if I lift a finger to help a cop.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 04:50 PM (yCZVl)

307
I predicted this last winter. Everybody here thought I was full of it.

Which is probably true for lots of things. But not this.

It will get worse.

Posted by: Ed Anger at June 03, 2016 04:50 PM (RcpcZ)

308 >>So, Red State has no problem with Ben Howe's bullshit?<<

They've been pushing the same crap on that site. The lead idiot over there is driving the nevertrump bandwagon and rarely has a cogent thing to say.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 03, 2016 04:50 PM (O0lVq)

309 292 They need to use this footage in ads

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (zOTsN)

Especially the vermin chanting "make California Mexico again" and waving the Mexican flag.

Yup. Willie Horton and the landslide.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:50 PM (p4UlV)

310 @60: "Ben Howe 24 minutes ago

As I fully expected, all of the
fair-weather pacifists in Trump's legions don't give to craps about
anti-Trump protestors being maced."

I care, Ben. I really do. I care that the wrong type of mace is being used.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 03, 2016 04:51 PM (rznWS)

311 282 Egging is okay?!?!?!?!??

Seriously? If its cool to egg Trump supporters now, next week Ben Howe will wake up to his car being covered in egg.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 04:46 PM (UBBWX)

Egging a Trump supporting woman? Halloween prank. Egging Ben Howe's care? That would be assault.

I am now a Trump supporter. I don't care what anyone thinks. I will not allow these vermin to scare me into not voting.

Posted by: Moki at June 03, 2016 04:51 PM (ezHMO)

312 The police in these blue cities are useless shits.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 04:41 PM (jK3b3)

As I said in the last thread, the police in the blue cities are also the ones whose careers and lives might be ruined forever if they shoot a black thug in self-defense. The left has as much contempt for cops as they do for us.

And yet these dolts stand and watch when the left attacks the people who are - most likely to respect and defend cops.

If this becomes a pattern, I might not so driven to defend the next cop who shoots a saintly yute who was just getting his life together.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 04:51 PM (u0lmX)

313 301 What the hell happened to Ben Howe? He's so twisted now he thinks it's ok to pelt people with shit because of their political beliefs? Fuck him. It's not a prank. It's something that deserves an elbow to the face for in retaliation.
***

Ben's the kind of guy who, if it were his wife being pelted with eggs, would stand there being The Better Man.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 03, 2016 04:51 PM (IgmR9)

314 "Are we now gaming out which principles we should speak a word in favor of according to which candidate might indirectly benefit from our utterances...?"

-ace

Been that way for quite while now on both sides.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at June 03, 2016 04:51 PM (hTqVx)

315 "Weimar! Get your red hot Weimars here!"

With our current fiscal policy, we are likely to need wheelbarrows for wallets soon.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 04:51 PM (jLXo8)

316 303 Weimar! Get your red hot Weimars here!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 04:49 PM (Nwg0u)

D-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-id y-y-y-y-y-y-you say Weimaraner?!

- - Prezdnt Mashie Niblikc

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:51 PM (p4UlV)

317 Of course now Trump doubles down on calling a US citizen judge "He's a Mexican."

He must be terrified of the trial.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 04:51 PM (UBBWX)

318 Michelle Obama Attacks Trump: We Dont Build Walls To Keep People Out

Who exactly is we?

Weasel Zippers

A) Who elected her
B) What has that scrunt ever built
C) When has a First Lady - and I use that term loosely -- ever been do overtly political

FUCK HER

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:51 PM (Ozsfq)

319 Ben Howe is so invested in being anti-Trump -- a
position I can sympathize with -- that he can no longer see past that position. Thus, he simply waves off a clear case of assault because to acknowledge and denounce it might help the guy he is working against.
It's pathetic.

Posted by: holygoat

I'm seeing a lot of that. There's a very sage piece of advice that says, "Never let your ego get so close to your position that when your position goes, your ego goes with it." The NeverTrumpers have invested their egos completely into their position.
Posted by: Country Singer

All of that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (p2X2f)

320 The violence of the left is one of the many reasons they are nasty to the core. But c'mon, Ace. You are acting like there was something special about the San Jose leftist mob. There is a leftist mob somewhere weekly in America and there has been for 15 years. It's how they roll. Seriously, there is nothing special about the leftist mob du jour.

Posted by: RD Walker at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (ImpgP)

321 294 After watching the cops stand by in Chicago and San Jose as Trump supporters were battered, some middle class whites may revisit their support for the cops.

Posted by: need more coffee at June 03, 2016 04:43 PM (m/Gc2)

_____

I'm long past the point of supporting the cops. They vote 90% Democrat and are a big reason why most cities are bankrupt, thanks to their pensions, overtime, early retirement, etc.

At the end of the day they're members of the Democrat machine. So fuck them.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (0LHZx)

322 "How does the 'American Empire' end??? A gradual withering of will and power?? Death by a thousand cuts like the British Empire??? Or defeated and crashed like the Roman Empire at the hands of the
Gauls and Vandals, creating a power vaccuum that ushered in the Dark
Ages??"

Embrace the healing power of "and".

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (noWW6)

323 Violence has absolutely no place in American elections. That's a bell that is very hard to un-ring.

Posted by: Sulla at June 03, 2016 04:49 PM (yzic7)

A flag is thrown on the comment. Officials are conferring...

Comment-nic mismatch. 10 point penalty.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Comment Quality Control Dept. at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (8ZskC)

324 "Maybe he'd change his mind if people were waiting outside his house to pelt him with eggs every morning.
Posted by: gm at June 03, 2016 04:39 PM (4ueYo)"

You, I'm pretty confident his position that firing eggs into someone's face is a simple "Halloween prank" would change rather quickly in that instance.

Posted by: holygoat at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (DbBV5)

325
303 Weimar! Get your red hot Weimars here!

Well played.

Posted by: Ed Anger at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (RcpcZ)

326 315 "Weimar! Get your red hot Weimars here!"

With our current fiscal policy, we are likely to need wheelbarrows for wallets soon.
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 04:51 PM (jLXo

"Peace has come to Zimbabwe,
it's the 4th of July . . ."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (p4UlV)

327 Some cops are good people. Some are not. In blue states, the cops will be used as paid muscle to protect the Mexicans while they assault the pro-Trump Americans.

I don't want to get into a long discussion about what a legitimate target is or isn't, but if you were part of an assembly to hear a man speak politics (the purpose of the 1st Amendment), and police allied with foreign invaders rained violence down on you, how would your concepts of "law and order" change?

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (S2VsH)

328 Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 04:50 PM (Doh4+)

So you're saying we're damned if we do and damned if we don't?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (V8uX9)

329
These lefty clowns are almost guaranteeing a Trump victory with their antics;

I'm not sure about that. These exact tactics worked quite well for Chavez's last election in Venezuela. I thought the Venezuelans were sure to wake up and save themselves but no, they reelected Chavez.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (jK3b3)

330 Never cared for Redstate.

Nice to see they've gone to '11.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (+wjl1)

331 They need to use this footage in ads

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (zOTsN)

Especially the vermin chanting "make California Mexico again" and waving the Mexican flag.

Yup. Willie Horton and the landslide.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:50 PM (p4UlV)

And they need to do it NOW

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (Ozsfq)

332 First they came for the Trumpeteers and I was not a Trumpeteer, I was a union cop, so I did nothing.

Then they came to shoot cops in the street and nobody gave a damn.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (Nwg0u)

333 When all power is centralized in one entity then all that matters is who controls that entity. Socialist countries are usually violent, not only because their basic premise of separating people from their possessions is inherently violent, but because it becomes imperative that you seize power before the other guy does.

Trump vs. whoever is just a symptom. The problem is that the government is too powerful and makes too many decisions for too many people. At the same time it is not even bothering to perform its actual legitimate functions such as protecting the citizenry.

This is a recipe for the violence we are seeing now. And it is going to get worse because the restrained side, the side that advocates leaving others alone and follows the law has seen that there is no longer any law to follow. This enrages the side that has to this point had a monopoly on violence so they ratchet it up. God only knows where it will all end.

Posted by: Thatch at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (pBZp4)

334 So now only males will attend rallies in support of Donald Trump? Women may have justified fear for their own safety... the Mayor doesn't care, 9-11 calls are ignored.

The press will now eagerly announce that *only* angry men appear at his rallies. A fluster of cuck, this is.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 04:53 PM (ZnIt3)

335 318 C) When has a First Lady - and I use that term loosely -- ever been do overtly political

FUCK HER
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:51 PM (Ozsfq)

See: Clinton, Hilary. Healthcare, 1993

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:53 PM (p4UlV)

336 See: Clinton, Hilary. Healthcare, 1993

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:53 PM (p4UlV)

OK, I;ll give ya that one. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:53 PM (Ozsfq)

337 was Ben Howe the guy who wrote about showing how he wasn't possessive by allowed his wife to boink some guy named Raoul..?

Posted by: mallflower at June 03, 2016 04:53 PM (qSIlh)

338 Michelle Obama Attacks Trump: We Dont Build Walls To Keep People Out
>>>

So the walls around the White House are to keep people in?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 03, 2016 04:54 PM (tf9Ne)

339 This will not end in the manner of the left's choosing. When the levee breaks would be a great name for a song.

Posted by: Afroman at June 03, 2016 04:54 PM (NSLmv)

340 Hot town
Summer in the city.
Back of my neck gettin'
Blood and gritty.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 04:54 PM (Nwg0u)

341 Police Chief in San Jose just blinked and pussied out

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:54 PM (Ozsfq)

342 Can you imagine the street protests when Trump is President?

Recreate '68 doesn't mean a week in Chicago any more. It means something more than that now.

Posted by: Wong Chu at June 03, 2016 04:54 PM (yZ0Uj)

343 San Jose police chief said they didn't respond because the police might get hurt.

Ok

So go ahead, attack the people?

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 04:54 PM (zOTsN)

344 336 See: Clinton, Hilary. Healthcare, 1993

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:53 PM (p4UlV)

OK, I;ll give ya that one. LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:53 PM (Ozsfq)

Was going to include Eleanor Roosevelt but I'm not sure about that. She was too busy being a lesbian.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (p4UlV)

345
I saw Willie Horton and the Landslide open for Hootie and the Blowfish.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (IqV8l)

346 And they need to do it NOW

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (Ozsfq)

Don't hold your breath waiting for the RNC to do it!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (wYnyS)

347 So the walls around the White House are to keep people in?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 03, 2016 04:54 PM (tf9Ne)

Well considering who lives and works there? Maybe

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (Ozsfq)

348 As I fully expected, all of the
fair-weather pacifists in Trump's legions don't give to craps about
anti-Trump protestors being maced."

-----

Can somebody with a Twitter acct send Ben the following message from me??

"Fuck.You. Ben. If you make a moral equivalency between cops using mace to restore order against unruly rioters and unruly rioters assaulting other citizens youre neither an intellectual nor as American as you think you are. Have I said FUCK YOU Ben yet?? Fuck You Ben."

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (8XRCm)

349
San Jose police chief said they didn't respond because the police might get hurt.

Then what's the point of having them there at all?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (jK3b3)

350 I consider pundits and intellectuals very different things.

Pundits generally run in a herd of likeminded people and harden into their own conventional wisdom within seconds of news breaking. Twitter only reinforces this. Very few add valuable thoughts or insight to a political debate. If I were a politician, I'd pay attention to a few of these to try to stay ahead of the news cycle.

Intellectuals are more reserved and studious and publish policy papers and scholarly work. They intend to affect politics behind the scenes. If I were a politician, I'd read these people and meet with them at their institutes to learn why I believe the things I do.

Both serve a purpose. It's just that there are 100 times more pundits, they're 100 times louder than intellectuals, and it's 100 easier to just get fed up and hate them all as one enormous and useless group.

Posted by: Red Stick at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (SQho9)

351 I really think that when you're at the point of saying "Everyone around me is stupid, wicked, racist, and evil," you should begin to examine the possibility that perhaps they're not all these things, and perhaps the defect resides more in your own egotistical mental barriers erected to keep any of those barbaric ideas out.

This is a principle I try to keep in mind. And, after years of Obama, I understand the fury and confusion that the left felt during the Bush administration. I used to mock their despair and sadness, but now I understand better. They have a vision of the nation and what it should be, and thought it was dead, or at least dying.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (39g3+)

352 "After watching the cops stand by in Chicago and San Jose as Trump
supporters were battered, some middle class whites may revisit their
support for the cops."

Today's fun fact: over 40% of the general fund budget in San Jose goes to lavish pensions. With the lion's share of that going to retired "public safety" workers, many of whom will never have faced any genuinely dangerous situations at any point during their public employment.

(In CA, milk inspectors are "public safety" hires. I kid you not.)

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (noWW6)

353 Has it always been the practice of high level politicians to use commencement speeches as political platforms?

I thought it was supposed to be about the students. You know, the ones headed back to Mom's basement.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (hTqVx)

354 If Senaotr Sranders does not get the nomination and win Brattleboro may just join Cannada so that we do not have to put up with a traitor, liar, racist pig like Trump. Presdent Obama woulds be welcome to be the Governor forever in Brattlebor.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (NuElX)

355 Was there a single anti-Trump protester anywhere in that video who was capable of confronting someone alone and to their face?

Take the first scene, with the guy with the build-the-wall t-shirt. Somebody comes up behind him and rips his shirt and then slithers away. He turns, pushes one of the suspects and the guy has NO reaction at all. Just stands there like a huge pussy. Then three or four others charge up and sucker punches the Trump dude from behind. Weakly, of course- Trumpist barely shows any effect.

Then at the end, the gangsta-wannabes scrambling en masses across the intersection after one person.

The threats to free speech are worrisome, obviously, but these thugs are total cowards on top of it. Vicious in groups, but pathetic alone.

So once again, when will the rule of law be gone in this country for good? I am trained, equipped and mentally prepared for lethal violence. Just tell me that's now the name of the game, and theres no point following these democratic principles anymore, and I'll play. These yellow bitches on the left are going to regret it.

Posted by: Randy Weaver 's Revenge at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (1rIwT)

356 Can you imagine the street protests when Trump is President?

Recreate '68 doesn't mean a week in Chicago any more. It means something more than that now.

Posted by: Wong Chu at June 03, 2016 04:54 PM (yZ0Uj)

You gonna be on a rooftop, I take it?

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (GUBah)

357 339 This will not end in the manner of the left's choosing. When the levee breaks would be a great name for a song.
Posted by: Afroman at June 03, 2016 04:54 PM (NSLmv)

Hmmm . . .

- - Page, Plant peering ahead from 1970

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (p4UlV)

358 @114: "Cops arent stupid. They also have intelligence on the ground. So, why didnt they do anything to protect those people?"

To ask the question is to answer it. See also "If only Comrade Stalin knew about these camps, he'd release us!"

Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 03, 2016 04:56 PM (rznWS)

359
Do you know why the San Jose police were at that rally?

To watch the Trump supporters closely. I believe that was their orders.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 04:56 PM (jK3b3)

360 354 If Senaotr Sranders does not get the nomination and win Brattleboro may just join Cannada so that we do not have to put up with a traitor, liar, racist pig like Trump. Presdent Obama woulds be welcome to be the Governor forever in Brattlebor.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 03, 2016 04:55 PM (NuElX)

Hey Shit-for-brains, if he doesn't get the nod it's because the Democrats gave it to Hilary.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:56 PM (p4UlV)

361 >>What would Shakespeare have said?
<<

Cry "Havoc," and let slip the dogs of war
That this fould ded shall smell above the earth...

Posted by: Marcus T at June 03, 2016 04:56 PM (O0lVq)

362 These police chiefs have more stars on their uniforms than the average third world dictator.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 04:56 PM (IqV8l)

363 I'm gonna go out on a limb and take the opposite side of the argument of suggesting that this is an indicator of the end of the republic.

I think it may actually mark a turning point. Add it up:
A failed presidency whose machinations are slowly being exposed to the light, SJW's, the Clinton's becoming the symbol of deceit and corruption, illegals shitting on the goodwill of the asshats who are giving them sanctuary, some indications that young people are becoming fed up with the sheer quantity of feminist and pussified bullshit.

The hippies of the 60's are now 'the establishment' and the dots that lead back to them are slowly being connected by the jackasses themselves.

There may be hope.

It will probably fade fast if Hillary is elected, but hey, Trump's evil.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 04:57 PM (4ng05)

364 Who's that asshole that kept saying ... even when told to eat a bag of dicks ... that some/most of the military and law enforcement will be willing and eager to kick our asses - to keep the peace - when this shit goes down ?

Oh Hell ... that was me !!! I was the asshole.

Get it yet ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2016 04:57 PM (fiGNd)

365 These police chiefs have more stars on their uniforms than the average third world dictator.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 04:56 PM (IqV8l)

And are about as useless

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:57 PM (Ozsfq)

366 Then what's the point of having them there at all?

That is kind of their job; to be the ones who face the danger and face the threat so others do not.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 04:57 PM (39g3+)

367 222 Elizabeth Warren

Know How.

Want Chance.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 03, 2016 04:57 PM (u82oZ)

368 So the walls around the White House are to keep people in?

It would make a dent in the deficit if they were.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 04:57 PM (evdj2)

369 >>San Jose police chief said they didn't respond because the police might get hurt.

Um, isn't riot control and keeping/restoring the peace part of their job?
I don't wish harm on the police, but we've seen what standing back did in Ferguson and Baltimore: things escalated.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 04:58 PM (NOIQH)

370 Of course now Trump doubles down on calling a US citizen judge "He's a Mexican."

He must be terrified of the trial.

-
The judge is a leader of La Raza. He is by definition a racist. It is a disgrace that he is on the bench.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 04:58 PM (Nwg0u)

371 It is pretty much Weimar. When the entitlement state crashes and burns, which it will, and note that it will be *Medicare* and medical spending, growing at about 7% annually, compounded, that is going to blow up first, not SS. They will go to raw printing to keep the checks going out.

Anyone with any sense knows how it will end, how it must, but just like Weimar, they will be driven to do it. Just keep held together for one more month, then one more week, then one more day.

Sometime, the US dollar's reserve currency status is going to be pulled. The Rooskies and the ChiComs are already making plans for this. That is when it will all end. That reserve currency status is what has let them get away with this for so long. It's Wile. E. Coyote running off the cliff and not falling until he realizes it. That reserve currency status has kept us floating in air against all the fiscal and monetary insanity.

When it ends, we go down fast.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 03, 2016 04:58 PM (DW+jj)

372 Of course now Trump doubles down on calling a US citizen judge "He's a Mexican."

He must be terrified of the trial.

The judge is a member of La Raza.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 04:58 PM (yCZVl)

373 OK, is it too early to uncorked the George T. Stagg?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 03, 2016 04:58 PM (O0lVq)

374 359
Do you know why the San Jose police were at that rally?

To watch the Trump supporters closely. I believe that was their orders.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 04:56 PM (jK3b3)

I hope that most of those cops were ordered under threat of suspension, their livelihoods and pensions not to do anything to protect the rally-goers.

If a sizable number of them actually agree with their higher ups, it does not bode well for the rest of the nation when the spaghetti hits the fan. We're going to get our hair mussed and no one will be there to protect us.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 04:59 PM (p4UlV)

375 ?
Has Ben Howe claimed victimhood yet? We all know that's the next stage in this farce.

Ben Howe will tweet he's getting death threats in 5,4,3,2,...

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 04:59 PM (jK3b3)

376
I think it may actually mark a turning point.
-------------------

That's my thought. This system, or organism, or whatever the hell it is, has been pushed out of equilibrium, and now it's righting itself.

Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 04:59 PM (pC96u)

377
Well, that's why the media attends the Trump rallies -- to closely watch the Trump supporters as the thugs engage them.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:00 PM (jK3b3)

378 The judge is a leader of La Raza. He is by definition a racist. It is a disgrace that he is on the bench.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 04:58 PM (Nwg0u)

If the judge is La Raza, I have no problem with whatever Trump chooses to call him.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 05:00 PM (4ng05)

379 You know when people start talking about gun confiscation....and other people say "nah brah, the police would never do that because they're on our side and they're like totes for the constitution and stuff".....yeah about that.....

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:00 PM (0LHZx)

380 365 These police chiefs have more stars on their uniforms than the average third world dictator.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 04:56 PM (IqV8l)

And are about as useless
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 04:57 PM (Ozsfq)

The one shining exception seems to be this Joe Clark from Milwaukee. He's called out Holder a few times, IIRC.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:00 PM (p4UlV)

381 Juan Williams blaming Trump.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 05:00 PM (IqV8l)

382 Look at the bright side. This really does have nothing to do with Islam.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:00 PM (Nwg0u)

383 These police chiefs and sheriffs with all the damned stars, like they think they're Douglass Fuckin' MacArthur have always frosted me, for years.

You're the head of some little podunk *civillian* LEO agency, yet you think you're a 5-star general, leading, what, how many million does an "Army Group" count for?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (DW+jj)

384 337 Posted by: mallflower at June 03, 2016 04:53 PM (qSIlh)

http://tinyurl.com/z9rfy9e

Huffington Post Breanne (the former Mrs. Howe)

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (g8Hfr)

385
We're going to get our hair mussed and no one will be there to protect us.

But they'll be there to arrest us. Just us.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (jK3b3)

386 It's probably been mentioned already but, "egging" is done to *objects* as a prank. Even then it's still vandalism. When done to people it is absolutely violence.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (GDulk)

387 The dope juan williams is attacking trump for the violence? Ass

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (Ozsfq)

388 @187: "It's gonna be a long summer, folks."

As Billy Beck said some years ago: "All politics is just dress rehearsal for civil war."

Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (rznWS)

389 i'd quaver, but that doesn't make me an intellectual, neither.

dagnabit.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (WTSFk)

390 376
I think it may actually mark a turning point.
-------------------

That's my thought. This system, or organism, or whatever the hell it is, has been pushed out of equilibrium, and now it's righting itself.
Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 04:59 PM (pC96u

"Yeah, about that . . .

- - Hank "Tip" Johnson

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (p4UlV)

391 Juan Williams is one stupid person.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (/tuJf)

392
The judge is a member of La Raza.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 04:58 PM (yCZVl)
--------------

The judge is not a member of La Raza. He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (mFkVC)

393 This system, or organism, or whatever the hell it is

It's the smell. I fear I have been infected.by.it.

Posted by: Agent Smith at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (evdj2)

394 "The judge is a leader of La Raza. He is by definition a racist. It is a disgrace that he is on the bench. "

Can you tell Trump that?

Can he please substitute "He's La Raza" instead of "He's Mexican?"

Otherwise, it comes off as racial.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (UBBWX)

395 off topic, fun story of the day, from weasels:

President Barack Obama says the Bible supports his sweeping directive to allow transgender public school students to use the bathroom of their choice.

The president made that remark at a townhall meeting hosted by "PBS NewsHour" in Elkhart, Indiana, Wednesday night.

Obama said people with religious beliefs may disagree with his decision, but he believes he's following Jesus' command to treat others the way he'd want to be treated.

"My reading of Scripture tells me that that Golden Rule is pretty high up there in terms of my Christian belief," he said.

The president said he wants to ensure that all children are treated with kindness and protect transgender students.

(maybe someone should ask him about that thing in the Bible about sodomy)

Posted by: mallflower at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (qSIlh)

396
There soon might come a time, inevitably, when we all need to become our own Buford T. Pussers.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (jK3b3)

397 386 It's probably been mentioned already but, "egging" is done to *objects* as a prank. Even then it's still vandalism. When done to people it is absolutely violence.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (GDulk)

Just thought of this: they were egging them on.

I laughed, I cried.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (p4UlV)

398 I've been trying not to get emotional about this insane election cycle, but the anger is seeping under the door frame....

Posted by: Max Power at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (q177U)

399 Thugs, with third-world breeding. Why would we expect to see them behave in any other way. It's genetics. It must be. There is no other good explanation. It would not be difficult to begin thinking of those heathen bastards as just another form of bacteria that needs to be pushed out of some Arab hell hole. This did happen in some third-world shithole, didn't it? This didn't actually happen in the land of the free, did it?

Posted by: goon at June 03, 2016 05:03 PM (WCaSy)

400 The day after another bout of leftist rioting and personal violence in service of suppressing a political rally -- this one apparently undertaken with the connivance and permission of the police, the agents of the state itself, and the support of the mayor...

It's worth noting the reason the Nazis were able to take control of Germany in the 1930s is through this sort of uneven policing. The brownshirts would attack a protest by the socialists, and the cops would arrest the socialists. The socialists would attack a Nazi march, and the cops would arrest... the socialists.

The Nazis were acting, in effect, as agents of the state even before they were able to secure control of it.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 03, 2016 05:03 PM (yhdIl)

401 If a body hits the floor, it's over. The Republic is like virginity. One prick and it's gone forever.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:03 PM (Nwg0u)

402
- - Page, Plant peering ahead from 1970

Memphis Minnie peering ahead from 1929

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 05:03 PM (lKyWE)

403 Look at the bright side. This really does have nothing to do with Islam.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:00 PM (Nwg0u)

The black guy who chased down and violently tackled the young Trump supporter and then bragged about it on social media - you guessed it, black muslim.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 05:03 PM (4ng05)

404
The judge is not a member of La Raza. He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.

oh for fuck's sake

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:03 PM (jK3b3)

405 I hope the people who got attacked sue the mayor and the police chief.
Maybe we could crowd fund their legal fund.

Posted by: @votermom boiling eggs at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (7lVbc)

406 391 Juan Williams is one stupid person.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (/tuJf)

And dangerous because they let him on the air.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (p4UlV)

407 Some Trump supporters pepper sprayed some protesters.

The one guy had a shit eating grin on his face.

I'm not gonna lie. I'd kinda like to pepper spray them, too.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (UBBWX)

408 Anti-Trump Protesters are just coming out of their shells.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (2cS/G)

409 Just thought of this: they were egging them on.

I laughed, I cried.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (p4UlV)

----

So..... the yolks on her??

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (8XRCm)

410 The judge is not a member of La Raza. He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (mFkVC)

Again, you're telling us an organization calling itself "The Race" is totally separate from a radical racist movement which calls itself the same thing and we are supposed to buy that?

You. are. ridiculous.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (u0lmX)

411 The judge is not a member of La Raza. He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (mFkVC)

____

Yeah I'm sure THAT La Raza is not at all in the business of promoting Mexican nationalism.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (0LHZx)

412 402
- - Page, Plant peering ahead from 1970

Memphis Minnie peering ahead from 1929
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 05:03 PM (lKyWE)

Hey, they were "paying homage."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (p4UlV)

413
Meanwhile, over at Red State, count the dog whistles:

By: streiff

It is almost as if Trump had hired them to make his point....All is needed is one person trying to attend a Trump rally getting killed and we will be on the edge of Horst Wessel territory.

http://tinyurl.com/jhgobok

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (kdS6q)

414 "You can't hold it against an intellectual that he shies away from physical danger and even discomfort just like 98% of the male population"

It is only this way is some parts of society... the upper crust social set...

Because the Elite have Celebrated the Feminine, and dismissed Manhood for a Generation....

Thus... you PUNDITS are this way.... but go out to the country, or near any Military base... and you will se otherwise.

What is happening however is that while we all knew New York, Washington, and Hollywood were full of shit... we... out here in Flyover America... have had enough of being silent about it.

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (qf6WZ)

415
I predicted this last winter. Everybody here thought I was full of it.

Which is probably true for lots of things. But not this.

It will get worse.
Posted by: Ed Anger at June 03, 2016 04:50 PM (RcpcZ)
---------------------

What other predictions do you have? I ask in all non-snarkiness.

Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 05:05 PM (pC96u)

416 Pet Concerns and Wooby Preoccupations was the name of a short-lived band that Fee Waybill belonged to before he joined and became front man for The Tubes.

True story.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 03, 2016 05:05 PM (rW2a0)

417 Seems the current MO is for the authority in charge, whether it's a university president, or the local Mayor or Governor, to order the police to stand back. They are more concerned about their police looking bad - being the next star of a viral YouTube video/#BLM protest/MSM feeding frenzy.

Sure, there are the Lefty types like in San Jose, or at DePaul, who are happy to have the crisis happen so that they can score political points.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:05 PM (NOIQH)

418 409
So..... the yolks on her??
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (8XRCm)

Eggcelent!

- - Vincent "Egghead" Price

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:05 PM (p4UlV)

419 The judge is not a member of La Raza. He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.
Posted by: person

Yeah, and the KKK Lawyers Assn is totes unconnected with the KKK.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 03, 2016 05:05 PM (p2X2f)

420 BOOOOOOOSH!
oops...er, I mean TRUMMMMP!

Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 05:05 PM (HgMAr)

421 392 Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (mFkVC)

"The Race" Lawyers Group

Can there be a "Mighty Whitey" Lawyer's Group I guess?

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:05 PM (g8Hfr)

422 He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.

'The Race' Lawyers Association.

res ipsa loquitur

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 05:05 PM (evdj2)

423 Cali had a ballot item to break up into 7 states, it failed. All the votes are on the coast, and mostly Dem. The right no longer can vote to improve anything.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 03, 2016 05:06 PM (6Ll1u)

424 The judge is not a member of La Raza. He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.

oh for fuck's sake

-----

Trump can't even use La Raza. He'll just say Mexican.

Basically, Trump appears to be okie dokie with identity politics.

apparently the new rule is 3 generations removed from immigrants or you "really" are not a "real American."

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:06 PM (UBBWX)

425 The judge is not a member of La Raza. He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (mFkVC)

oh please.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:06 PM (Ozsfq)

426 None of those words make any sense, in any order.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 05:06 PM (2cS/G)

427
an organization calling itself "The Race" is totally separate from a radical racist movement which calls itself the same thing and we are supposed to buy that?

You. are. ridiculous.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (u0lmX)
-----------------------

Even if the organizations have no formal affiliation, what's with ANY organization that calls itself "The Race"?

Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 05:06 PM (pC96u)

428 416 Pet Concerns and Wooby Preoccupations was the name of a short-lived band that Fee Waybill belonged to before he joined and became front man for The Tubes.

True story.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 03, 2016 05:05 PM (rW2a0)

What about Prairie Prince? I used to call Fee Waybill Way Feeble.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:06 PM (p4UlV)

429 >>>The judge is not a member of La Raza. He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.

conflict of interest, if ever there was one

Posted by: concrete girl at June 03, 2016 05:06 PM (ceWrl)

430 There is a pretty good movie about the Spanish Civil War entitled There Be Dragons. A tagline was there came a time when everybody had to choose a side.

We're closing in on that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:07 PM (Nwg0u)

431 One of my favorites, J.J. I'll be listening to it when the leftards start feeling the pain of the rushing waters!

Posted by: Afroman at June 03, 2016 05:07 PM (NSLmv)

432 The judge isn't a member of the KKK, he's a member of the San Diego KKK Lawyer Association. And the two are like totally different groups and stuff.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:07 PM (0LHZx)

433
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:02 PM (mFkVC)

This cat is totally like that Capt America dummy who used to be here. I forgot his name.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:07 PM (jK3b3)

434
And the Volksgemeinschaft dug for coal near an automobile factory.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:07 PM (p4UlV)

435 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (p4UlV)

Memphis Minnie

http://tinyurl.com/jst9pto

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (wYnyS)

436 apparently the new rule is 3 generations removed from immigrants or you "really" are not a "real American."

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:06 PM (UBBWX)

___

How about this rule....if you join a group called THE RACE, you're a fucking racist piece of shit.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (0LHZx)

437 "Can there be a "Mighty Whitey" Lawyer's Group I guess?"

That is a great question. If Trump had brought up La Raza and then asked this question, it would be interetsing.

Instead he keeps saying :"He's Mexican!"

I know most commenters here don't care about non-white american citizen votes, but that's not a good way to make friends, even if the judge is a political enemy.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (UBBWX)

438 I once threw an egg at a chick.
She hiked up her skirt and caught it in her hoo-hah. Then she used it in her performance art show.

Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (HgMAr)

439
Basically, Trump appears to be okie dokie with identity politics.

Who fuckin cares?

Trump breaks the Left's speech code rules! Oh shit!!

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (jK3b3)

440 The judge is not a member of the He-Man Woman-Haters Club, he's a member of the He-Man Woman-Haters Layers Association.
See, not a misogynist!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (NOIQH)

441 Yeah I'm sure THAT La Raza is not at all in the business of promoting Mexican nationalism.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:04 PM (0LHZx)

85 - 90%. Tops.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (4ng05)

442 I find it strange they never mention Obama the agitator and the left in general.
this has been going on forever, and accelerated the last decade and a half. During Bush they were just filing their nails , primping their rhetoric -training their troops getting ready with what they do for every and any reason. Paid Paid likely by taxpayer funds funneled to the left groupies and of course Soros groupies. Im sure those really creepy tea parties had something to do with all of this uncivil behavior.

Posted by: willow at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (QlyN5)

443 293 Trump can afford to rent a battalion of Pinkertons and should. We are in Times of Future Past here.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (evdj2)
***
He could hire these guys - they've got experience, anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zk_SwGI-q4

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (lutOX)

444 @333

100% correct.

Whenever gov't controls the assets, conflict is inevitable. If the Iraqi gov't didn't control the oil, but it was all owned by private corporations, would there be as much fighting over control of that gov't? Doubtful. Give government this much power over every aspect of people's lives, combine it with the new tribalism, and everything becomes about whose tribe holds the power of gov't and they'll fight for that by whatever means necessary.

Reducing gov't power is still the only solution, and the GOP failed to nominate a candidate willing to do it despite having viable options who would have done it.

Posted by: cjw at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (onydf)

445 Hi Tyrone Washington...I'm Vander Vorheess Vance the IIId a Judge from "Mighty Whitey Partners LLC I'lll be deciding your case"

//Person Liberal Genius

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (g8Hfr)

446 Go long on extendable steel batons.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (+wjl1)

447 La Raza Lawyers Assn. *spit*

I'm pretty sure membership in the White Peoples' Lawyers Association will disqualify you for any judicial post, and might well get you disbarred.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (8ZskC)

448
"My reading of Scripture tells me that that Golden Rule is pretty high up there in terms of my Christian belief," he said.

He must be thinking of the Golden Shower Rule.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (IqV8l)

449 I know most commenters here don't care about non-white american citizen votes, but that's not a good way to make friends, even if the judge is a political enemy.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (UBBWX)

_____

Concern

[X] Noted

[ ] Not Noted

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (0LHZx)

450 399 Thugs, with third-world breeding. Why would we expect to see them behave in any other way. It's genetics. It must be. There is no other good explanation. It would not be difficult to begin thinking of those heathen bastards as just another form of bacteria that needs to be pushed out of some Arab hell hole.
Posted by: goon at June 03, 2016 05:03 PM (WCaSy)

The problem is that plenty with, er, "first world breeding" enable and excuse and contribute to this sort of behavior. Twig boy and trigglypuff are not 3rd worlders from some Arab hell hole, but people of pallor who hate their own race and heritage.

The La Raza types get away with it because they're enabled by leftist whites.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (u0lmX)

451 "How about this rule....if you join a group called THE RACE, you're a fucking racist piece of shit."

How about Trump mentions La Raza and not just keep repeating the ethnicity of the judge?

And, yeah, are you offended by this group, too:

http://irish-lawyers.org/

No, of course not.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (UBBWX)

452
I know most commenters here don't care about non-white american citizen votes,

You just committed AoS blog commenting suicide, bro.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (jK3b3)

453 You don't want to know what Roxy Raye does with eggs. And I mean Ostrich eggs. Or fossilized dinosaur eggs.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (DW+jj)

454
I remember an asshole "historian" on the History Channel trying to differentiate between the Waffen SS and the Algemeiner SS, saying it was only the latter that "may have" engaged in genocide.

I fired off a 6 page letter, single-spaced so fast it was incredible. And that episode never aired again.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (p4UlV)

455 He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.

----

Oh. Fuck. Fer Fucks Sake.

La Raza is tradmarked organization.

Lawyers.... using the name La Raza.... would have to get fucking legal PERMISSION to use the name La Raza in their Lawyers association name.

Lawyers. Using another groups tradmarked name.

THATS your "conclusion"????

It seems your fucking retarded you seem totally unconnected to fucking reality.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (8XRCm)

456 Piss off, Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 05:10 PM (evdj2)

457 Not a member of La Raza, just the La Raza legal arm. Okay! Reminds me of another great song: Pretzel Logic.

Posted by: Afroman at June 03, 2016 05:10 PM (NSLmv)

458 453 You don't want to know what Roxy Raye does with eggs. And I mean Ostrich eggs. Or fossilized dinosaur eggs.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (DW+jj)

Ever hear of or see the Yam Shooter? Now THAT was performance art, let me tell you!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:10 PM (p4UlV)

459 sexypig, Huh? i think we all care that the votes are fellow american votes of any persuasion.
heck even woman can vote in america now! whew surprise!

Posted by: willow at June 03, 2016 05:10 PM (QlyN5)

460 Over 400 posts ... Gun Thread !!!

Best "Sporting Rifle" in the near future ?

Discuss !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2016 05:10 PM (fiGNd)

461 437 Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (UBBWX)

I asked Juan Pablito US citizen if he wanted to vote for Trump amigo...

his 2d cousin twice removed blew up my car.

Maybe people in "La Raza Lawyers LLC" should not be fucking confirmed 98-0?

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM (g8Hfr)

462 Juan Williams is one stupid person.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (/tuJf)
...................

The producer must meet him before each show and say: "Here's your check Juan, now go out there and say something really retarded."

Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM (HgMAr)

463
Jill Filipovic*

Rioting in response to Trump may feel good, but it is so, so, so strategically dumb.

*@Guardian US columnist. Still cool with political violence if it is effective.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM (kdS6q)

464 I know most commenters here don't care about non-white american citizen votes, but that's not a good way to make friends, even if the judge is a political enemy.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (UBBWX)

----

Hey.... asshole. Have the courage to say "racist".

Otherwise .... you can fuck off too.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM (8XRCm)

465 Here's another ethnic lawyer's association:

http://www.iala.info/

so, we have an Irish one, and an Italian one.

Anyone going to call those groups racist?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM (UBBWX)

466 @268: "How does the "American Empire" end???

A gradual withering of will and power?? Death by a thousand cuts like the British Empire???

Or defeated and crashed like the Roman Empire at the hands of the
Gauls and Vandals, creating a power vaccuum that ushered in the Dark
Ages??"

First one, then the other.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM (rznWS)

467
So, the La Raza Lawyers Group. Is that like Goldberg, Goldberg, Goldberg, Himmler and Goldberg?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM (p4UlV)

468
The judge is not a member of La Raza. He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.

And why would a lawyers association name themselves La Raza?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 05:12 PM (lKyWE)

469 Anyone going to call those groups racist?

Seriously Joe, piss off. Shit for brains.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 05:12 PM (evdj2)

470 Jill Filipovic*

Rioting in response to Trump may feel good, but it is so, so, so strategically dumb.

So, a guilty pleasure, like Hagen Dasz.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 05:12 PM (+wjl1)

471
Fucking dunce. I really hope that's not Amish Dude.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:12 PM (jK3b3)

472 anyway i'm wondering if Trump being a jerk , means it's fair game to hit -egg- rip the shirt off his supporters by fellow gop standards?

Posted by: willow at June 03, 2016 05:12 PM (QlyN5)

473 Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (8XRCm)

And, he was on a board which gave out scholarships to Latinos..... only Latinos...

One of which went to an Illegal Alien... it was even on his application that he was undocumented.

It is still a Felony to Knowingly Aid and Abet an Illegal to Stay in this country... to give them financial assistance.

This Judge committed a Felony.

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 03, 2016 05:13 PM (qf6WZ)

474 so, we have an Irish one, and an Italian one.

Anyone going to call those groups racist?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM (UBBWX)

yeah i will. I think all those groups are divisive and basically Un American. Either your an American or your Not....STOP all the hyphenated American Shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:13 PM (Ozsfq)

475 All we are saying is give thugs a chance.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:13 PM (Nwg0u)

476 Presdent Obama should do something about Trump and all the trouble he is causing. Trump liars about are presdent of color just to divide people and take away freedom.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 03, 2016 05:13 PM (NuElX)

477 Anyone going to call those groups racist?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM (UBBWX)

----

La Raza means.... literally... "The Race."

Irish and Italian arent races Einstein.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:13 PM (8XRCm)

478 "ey.... asshole. Have the courage to say "racist". "

Trump has the courage to call an American citizen a "Mexican."

Where are you from? Can I call you Italian? Or German?

Would you be cool with that?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:13 PM (UBBWX)

479
Anyone going to call those groups racist?

Calling your group "The Race" makes it explicitly racist.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 05:13 PM (+wjl1)

480 465 Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM (UBBWX)

So, what you're saying is it's perfectly fine to have the John Birch Law Group and it would have zero affiliation or AFFINITY for the original wonderful bunch of Americans?

Please do not urinate on my leg and advise me of an arriving tropical storm.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (p4UlV)

481 Hey ShitPig are either of those groups organizations with the stated goal of "returning" US soil to their place of ancestral origin?

Why no no they fucking not.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (g8Hfr)

482 That's quite the slur, Sexypig. Can you guess my race?

Posted by: Afroman at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (NSLmv)

483 >>I know most commenters here don't care about non-white american citizen votes,

Like the citizens attacking Trump rally attendees waving the Mexican flag, wearing "Straight Outta Sineola" T's and waving handmade signs saying things like "Make America Mexico Again" - those guys?

Yeah, we can totally get their vote if we can get Trump to be a little nicer.
"Natural conservatives" as the GOPe likes to refer to them.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (NOIQH)

484
I know most commenters here don't care about non-white american citizen votes
Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (UBBWX)

Might as well delete cookies and reset your router to change your hash. You've just given your current nic the true death.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (kdS6q)

485 If Trump hires private security people, they'll be immediately tarred as "goons" and "brownshirts".

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (hTqVx)

486 Hmmm, ADVICE REQUESTED

Just got a scoop on exactly where and when Bernie Sanders will be meeting Robert Reich in a few hours. it is "closed to the public" and only open to the press, but I have a way to charm my way in.

But what would be the point? I don't want to criticize or debunk Sanders at this stage, because I'm hoping that he is able to steal the nomination from Hillary. (Because, despite the fantasy-polls, Sanders would get obliterated by Trump in the general.) Plus, in a such a small setting, it would be increasingly difficult (if not impossible) to maintain my anonymity after my report comes out.

So -- why bother attending? I can't report on it, and even if I did, it would undermine my ultimate goal.

So, despite having this scoop, should I just shrug and let the meeting happen without me?

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)

487 All we did was hit them back first.

- The Hillthugs and the Bernthugs

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (Nwg0u)

488 "He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected."

A member of a group called The Race Lawyers Association couldn't possibly be an anti-American racist, then?

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 05:15 PM (jLXo8)

489 Would you be cool with that?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:13 PM (UBBWX)

----

Yes.... you can call me German... cause thats were Im from.

But you didnt call me that..... you called me a Racist.

THAT I have issue with.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:15 PM (8XRCm)

490 The Judge is obviously a bigot and Trump is still an idiot for appearing to be a bigot.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 05:15 PM (V8uX9)

491
Does the judge consider himself American? Where are his loyalties? If you asked him to identify himself, what would he say? Something like, "It says American on my passport, but I've got the heart of a Mexican"?

Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 05:15 PM (pC96u)

492 Does anyone know if the "skunks as pets" people were their to protect their concerns??

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 03, 2016 05:15 PM (NuElX)

493 482 That's quite the slur, Sexypig. Can you guess my race?
Posted by: Afroman at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (NSLmv)

You could be Jewish with bushy hair circa 1974. Like me!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:15 PM (p4UlV)

494 And, yeah, are you offended by this group, too:

http://irish-lawyers.org/

No, of course not.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (UBBWX)

No, because their primary legal work revolves around DUI/PI defense and liquor license filings, not the establishment of a third world ethnic revolution.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 05:16 PM (GUBah)

495 @302: "Violence has absolutely no place in American elections. That's a bell that is very hard to un-ring."

I take it that you're not overly familiar with American history, then? Violence has been an integral part of many of them.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 03, 2016 05:16 PM (rznWS)

496
Joe's Law: Trolls believe none of the things they post.

Joe's Corollary: Your disgust is their oxygen.

Joe's Conjecture: All trolls are Average Joe.

Joe's Tautology: Average Joe sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:16 PM (evdj2)

497

If mick, wop, and kraut lawyers want to form their own associations, nobody cares.

But La Raza is a racist organization focused on Mexican reclamation of large parts of the United States.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:16 PM (jK3b3)

498
Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)

------------------

ARE YOU KIDDING??!?!?!

GO!!!!!!

At least gather data. At *least.*

Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 05:17 PM (pC96u)

499 490 The Judge is obviously a bigot and Trump is still an idiot for appearing to be a bigot.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 05:15 PM (V8uX9)

No fan of Trump, but how does he "appear" to be a bigot? Because he wants border security and immigration control?

Race card we much, eh?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:17 PM (p4UlV)

500 And, yeah, are you offended by this group, too:

http://irish-lawyers.org/

No, of course not.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (UBBWX)

______

Is their mission to return 1/3 of the US back to Irish? No? Then fuck off.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:17 PM (0LHZx)

501 Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)

The importance of good intelligence cannot be underestimated!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 03, 2016 05:17 PM (wYnyS)

502 "Afroman"

Trump is the one deciding to call people by their race. Ask him. He'd probably call you Spanish or something.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:17 PM (UBBWX)

503 Trump has the courage to call an American citizen a "Mexican."

Where are you from? Can I call you Italian? Or German?

Would you be cool with that?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:13 PM (UBBWX)

You can call me Oriental, I don't care. Hell, my mother's called me that my entire life.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 05:17 PM (GUBah)

504 so i guess it's a get out of responsibility card now if you can claim you are hurt by others rhetoric?
i can respond with physical aggression if one of you morons hurt my feelings??

Posted by: willow at June 03, 2016 05:17 PM (QlyN5)

505 To Clogginstien.... WTF ???

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 03, 2016 05:17 PM (gFEKv)

506
La Raza, in the olden days, would've been deemed 'subversive,' because that's what they are. A subversive racist hate-group.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:17 PM (jK3b3)

507 So, a guilty pleasure, like Hagen Dasz.

-
Hoggin' the Dasz? What's Dasz?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:17 PM (Nwg0u)

508 497

If mick, wop, and kraut lawyers want to form their own associations, nobody cares.

But La Raza is a racist organization focused on Mexican reclamation of large parts of the United States.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:16 PM (jK3b3)

Jack Woltz is listening, and he doesn't care how many woo, dago, guinea, grease balls come out of the woodwork, my kraut mick friend.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:18 PM (p4UlV)

509 The judge is not a member of La Raza. He is a member of the La Raza Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.

And why would a lawyers association name themselves La Raza?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 05:12 PM (lKyWE)

It clarifies thought wonderfully by translating "La Raza" as "The (Master) Race."

If you're judging people by skin melanin content or by lineage rather than by their skills, abilities, and (ahem) the "content of their character" then you are indeed a bigot, and quite probably a racist. You are certainly a bad person, and should be shunned by people of good will.

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:18 PM (s5o+q)

510 Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:16 PM (evdj2)

It's almost like you've seen this guy's posts before!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 03, 2016 05:18 PM (wYnyS)

511
i can respond with physical aggression if one of you morons hurt my feelings??

Yes. Now go get the sammiches.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:18 PM (jK3b3)

512 509 WHERE'S THE GOP LEADERSHIP ? JACKING OFF OVER PHOTOS OF GEORGE BUSH AND ROMNEY?
Posted by: TVOC at June 03, 2016 05:18 PM (XzRw1)

____

I look pretty hot too!!

Posted by: Jon Hunstman at June 03, 2016 05:18 PM (0LHZx)

513
Trump has the courage to call an American citizen a "Mexican."

Where are you from? Can I call you Italian? Or German?

Would you be cool with that?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:13 PM (UBBWX)

Please go see what he actually said.... not what the PRESS wants you to hear...

He specifically said he was of Mexican Heritage.

That is a factual statement.....

He never called him a Mexican...

but please continue with your Trump Derangement syndrome... and misquoting like the MSM does.... its amusing...

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 03, 2016 05:18 PM (qf6WZ)

514
in a such a small setting, it would be increasingly difficult (if not impossible) to maintain my anonymity after my report comes out.
------------------

Delay the release of the report.

Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 05:18 PM (pC96u)

515 Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)

Go and write about it in your future memoir.

Posted by: @votermom boiling eggs at June 03, 2016 05:18 PM (7lVbc)

516 "Is their mission to return 1/3 of the US back to Irish? No? Then fuck off."

If you can show La Raza Lawyers of San Diego are linked to The La Raza, I will accept this argument.

and by the way, if Trump did this, I'd be fine.

Instead its "He's a Mexican!!!!!"

I dson't want Al Shaprton to be able to say "He's white!" and he's a member of the Irish-american lawyers association!!!!

But, eh, i'm in a minority. Trump is the winner and we get exciting white identity politics.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:19 PM (UBBWX)

517 465 Here's another ethnic lawyer's association:

http://www.iala.info/

so, we have an Irish one, and an Italian one.

Anyone going to call those groups racist?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM (UBBWX)

Is it the Irish Race Association? The Italian Race Association?

Talk about a stupid and false moral equivalence.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 05:19 PM (u0lmX)

518 "Trump has the courage to call an American citizen a "Mexican." "

If a naturalized or first generation citizen affiliates with a racist anti-american organization, and advocates an invasion of the US by his former country, then he has de-facto renounced his citizenship.

In a sane country, a federal judge would strip his citizenship, and deport him at the very least. Or even find him guilty of treason.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 05:19 PM (jLXo8)

519 Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)

Go. You don't have to report. Tape it if you can.

It may explain something that happens next month, or at the convention.

Or it could be a completely boring waste of time.

You never know.

Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 05:19 PM (v0YLX)

520 So, can anyone find any substantial connection between the La Raza Lawyers Association and La Raza?

And since we've now accepted racial identity politics, is it fair to say that no Trump-supporting judge should be allowed to preside over a case with a white defendent, since a "Mexican" born in Indiana is not suited to judge Trump?

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:19 PM (mFkVC)

521 Riots are common thru out 20th century American history. Just dont expect ones own side to be cheering the violence against us.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 05:19 PM (iQIUe)

522 So, despite having this scoop, should I just shrug and let the meeting happen without me?

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)

Sounds like you should attend and cheer him on, Zombie. Try to get some flattering photos. Talk about Mutt and Jeff. Sanders and Reich.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at June 03, 2016 05:19 PM (hTqVx)

523 502 "Afroman"

Trump is the one deciding to call people by their race. Ask him. He'd probably call you Spanish or something.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:17 PM (UBBWX)

A) Mexican is not a race. It's a nationality.
B) He's calling the man out for abrogating his oath as a judge because he has an affinity for his countrymen here illegally, as opposed to an affinity for the law.

Please retrieve your box that shines.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:19 PM (p4UlV)

524 Said it before and will say it again.. To the navel gazing elite, unless it happens to them personally, it doesn't matter and the rest of us need to shut up and listen to them tell us what matters.

Ben "Schmoo" Howe and the rest of his coterie are content to chew on the doggie treats thrown to them by their upper stratum of the "intellectual class".

Posted by: kbdabear at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (5VTIh)

525 Huntsman's daughters are pretty damn hot, especially Abby, on FOX now (I'm sure she got that job totally unconnected to her father's connections, of course). I wouldn't fault anyone for jacking off over her.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (DW+jj)

526 I'm just glad the GOP has been fractured and its divided factions are finally free to fight amongst themselves.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (ktzHq)

527 The Irish-American Lawyers Assn is dedicated to eliminating laws that have disproportionately impacted the Irish community, such as those that outlaw drunk driving or assault and battery.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (8ZskC)

528
And since we've now accepted racial identity politics, is it fair to say that no Trump-supporting judge should be allowed to preside over a case with a white defendent, since a "Mexican" born in Indiana is not suited to judge Trump?
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:19 PM (mFkVC)
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should say "non-white" defendant, sorry.

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (mFkVC)

529 516 "Is their mission to return 1/3 of the US back to Irish? No? Then fuck off."

If you can show La Raza Lawyers of San Diego are linked to The La Raza, I will accept this argument.

and by the way, if Trump did this, I'd be fine.

Instead its "He's a Mexican!!!!!"

I dson't want Al Shaprton to be able to say "He's white!" and he's a member of the Irish-american lawyers association!!!!

But, eh, i'm in a minority. Trump is the winner and we get exciting white identity politics.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:19 PM (UBBWX)

_____

Unless your IQ is south of 80, you know damn well what La Raza is all about. It's not about celebrating how awesome tacos and Corona is. It's about reclaiming the SW United States for "the race". So either your IQ is in the 72 range or you're a concern troll who needs to fuck right off.

Which is it?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (0LHZx)

530 Jack Woltz is listening, and he doesn't care how many woo, dago, guinea, grease balls come out of the woodwork, my kraut mick friend.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:18 PM (p4UlV)

You left us second-gen bohunks and polacks out of it. My feelings are hurt.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (u0lmX)

531 Also, I shouldn't have brought this up...the left-wing violence should be its own issue.

I apologize. I'll go back to work now.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (UBBWX)

532 486 So, despite having this scoop, should I just shrug and let the meeting happen without me?
Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)

GO GO GO.

And tape it. And give me the scoop for MY blog, dammit!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:21 PM (p4UlV)

533 And Ben, Kevin, Bill, wherever you are out here .....

FUCK YOU TOO!!!!

Posted by: Lt Col. Frank Slade at June 03, 2016 05:21 PM (5VTIh)

534
Remember, these are the same people who say not only Trump must be destroyed but everyone who supports him or does not hate him. IOW, they want to destroy us, except for the repetitive #nevertrumps here.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 05:21 PM (iQIUe)

535 *Makes note to self to make sure that when the balloon goes up to fly privately to SF and pick up zombie as a companion for the Post-Apocalyptic Awesomeness*

Posted by: Sharkman at June 03, 2016 05:21 PM (rW2a0)

536 530 You left us second-gen bohunks and polacks out of it. My feelings are hurt.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (u0lmX)

I was channeling a scene from "The Godfather." Go yell at Puzo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:21 PM (p4UlV)

537 527 The Irish-American Lawyers Assn is dedicated to eliminating laws that have disproportionately impacted the Irish community, such as those that outlaw drunk driving or assault and battery.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (8ZskC)

____

But nothing about making returning 1/3 of the USA back to Ireland, I assume?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:22 PM (0LHZx)

538 nevermind, im going to hang out where everyone isn't pissed off.

Posted by: willow at June 03, 2016 05:22 PM (QlyN5)

539 The judge is not a member of the KKK. He is a member of the KKK Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.

Posted by: La Raza means The Race at June 03, 2016 05:22 PM (CE0QQ)

540 ARE YOU KIDDING??!?!?!

GO!!!!!!

I agree. You could be there for the next Bobby Kennedy. Probably not but it would be tough to miss that.

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:22 PM (evdj2)

541 527 The Irish-American Lawyers Assn is dedicated to eliminating laws that have disproportionately impacted the Irish community, such as those that outlaw drunk driving or assault and battery

WELL MR. CICERO ... AS A MEMBER OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH COMMUNITY, NOT EVEN CONSIDERED PURE ENOUGH TO BE EITHER SCOTCH OR IRISH ...

... yeah, that's kind of how that shit goes. We drink quite a bit, and fight often. Not always well. But often.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (fiGNd)

542 I haven't been on the HQ much the past couple of weeks . . .

is it still kosher to viciously mock obvious trolls around here?

Uh . . . is there a better, more troll-approved word than "kosher" to use, just there?

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (s5o+q)

543 We're not *THE* Nazis.

We just call ourselves Nazis.

No relation.

Posted by: Nazi Cookie Company at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (+wjl1)

544 The judge is a leader of La Raza. He is by definition a racist. It is a disgrace that he is on the bench.

He's part of a legal group called LaRaza, not the national La Raza group. True, the name is very unfortunate.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (39g3+)

545 531 Also, I shouldn't have brought this up...the left-wing violence should be its own issue.

I apologize. I'll go back to work now.
Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (UBBWX)

On that I absolutely agree. Trump's very thin record and rhetoric are another. And in this instance, I do not see his comments as racist at all.

Vaya con carne.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (p4UlV)

546 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:22 PM (0LHZx)

Did that post just fly over your head?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (V8uX9)

547 You can call me Oriental, I don't care. Hell, my mother's called me that my entire life.

If that is all it takes, you can call me a son of a bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (yCZVl)

548 539 The judge is not a member of the KKK. He is a member of the KKK Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely unconnected.
Posted by: La Raza means The Race at June 03, 2016 05:22 PM (CE0QQ)

____

Is there an echo?

432 The judge isn't a member of the KKK, he's a member of the San Diego KKK Lawyer Association. And the two are like totally different groups and stuff.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:07 PM (0LHZx)

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (0LHZx)

549 Instead its "He's a Mexican!!!!!"

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:19 PM (UBBWX)

Please post a Link where Trump actually said this...

Where it is not your PROJECTION of what you THINK he said?

Because every place I've seen the actual quote, its 'Mexican Heritage'.... which is a factual statement...

Posted by: Don Quixote at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (qf6WZ)

550 536 530 You left us second-gen bohunks and polacks out of it. My feelings are hurt.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (u0lmX)

I was channeling a scene from "The Godfather." Go yell at Puzo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:21 PM (p4UlV)

Eh, what can you expect from dose dagos?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (u0lmX)

551 The guy was honored by the La Raza lawyers group

He sat on the board that gave out scholarships to illegal aliens

You know who they pick to sit on those boards? Their donors. The ones who write the big checks

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (zOTsN)

552 Anyway... this is kinda big, actually. The wife knew more about this story than I did this morning. She had seen actual footage and was pissed off.

Which could mean the MSM has looked at their own Internal polling and decided that carrying water for the democrats in an election which could be a 50 state landslide is definitely not in their best financial interests. Especially with an individual in the white house who has a propensity to 'name names' and exact revenge against opponents.

Things can change in a heartbeat, my friends. And foes.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (ZnIt3)

553 Its like being called the White Race Klan then claiming you have nothing to do with the KKK... when there's a link to the KKK on your website.

Technically its possible, but really unlikely and difficult to believe.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (39g3+)

554 Sexypig: Time to hang it up. Your correlations have proven to be nothing more than equivocations in their poorest forms.

"Trump uses coarse and dumb language at times. Not Good. Sad."; should have been the end of it.

Instead, you proceed on your idiotic course to nowhere.

Stop being a walking hole that never stops digging.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 03, 2016 05:24 PM (OQ9R7)

555 543 We're not *THE* Nazis.

We just call ourselves Nazis.

No relation.
Posted by: Nazi Cookie Company at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (+wjl1)

And all this time Churchill's bad elocution had them looking for "Nar-zees."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:24 PM (p4UlV)

556 "Also, I shouldn't have brought this up...the left-wing violence should be its own issue. "

Nope. Left wingers are all about violence and racism. Period.

This hasn't changed since that socialist a-hole Adolf Hitler ( the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party ) did his thing.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 05:24 PM (jLXo8)

557 If yer not drinkin', yer not fightin, if yer not fighting, yer losing...

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 05:24 PM (2cS/G)

558
He's part of a legal group called LaRaza, not the national La Raza group. True, the name is very unfortunate.

Uh, I don't think it was accidental.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 05:24 PM (+wjl1)

559 So, can anyone find any substantial connection between the La Raza Lawyers Association and La Raza?"

You mean like the link on their page w/text and hyperlinks to La Raza?

Nah. Oh, wait...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 05:24 PM (C9pBZ)

560 Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)

If you do go, don't tell anyone, especially us.

Posted by: rd at June 03, 2016 05:24 PM (v0YLX)

561 Quaver vs. quiver. Discuss.

Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 05:24 PM (LAe3v)

562 When you realize you are in a gutter fight you don't need friends who question your tactics and verbal sophistication. What you need is friends and allies ready to fight with you.

If a resistance to the left is to become a reality it must have leaders ready to fight in that gutter. People like Ben Howe won't be there and therefore are of no use.

Posted by: William Eaton at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (KhJh8)

563 Trump is immune to the regular press. Why would he be effected by the irregular pissant press.

Posted by: DaveA at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (gSkG7)

564
Unless your IQ is south of 80, you know damn well what La Raza is all about. It's not about celebrating how awesome tacos and Corona is. It's about reclaiming the SW United States for "the race". So either your IQ is in the 72 range or you're a concern troll who needs to fuck right off.

Which is it?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM (0LHZx)

Eh, don't bother, Moo. La Raza is racist, anyone who pays attention knows this. There little hobby horse Aztlan, a mythical country that is trotted out like fucking Kwanzaa, is just a rallying point for their separatist bullshit.
"White" identity politics is just code for "shut up", how dare you talk back to my grievance group?

Posted by: kraken at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (sdxPm)

565 "Where are you from? Can I call you Italian? Or German?"
..............

Now you can call me Ray, or you can call me J, or you can all me Johnny...

Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (HgMAr)

566 Quaver vs. quiver. Discuss.
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 05:24 PM (LAe3v)

Item A is askeered.

Item B is aroused.

Mostly.

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (s5o+q)

567 550 Eh, what can you expect from dose dagos?
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (u0lmX)

Did you ever see "Only the Lonely?" When Maureen O'Hara tells John Candy to get married and have "a brood of Polack-Dago mutts!"

Oh my G-d!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (p4UlV)

568
He's calling the man out for abrogating his oath as a judge because he has an affinity for his countrymen here illegally, as opposed to an affinity for the law.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

The exact same situation as the gay California judge who refused to recuse and then overturned our gay marriage initiative.

Not to mention, you know, one or two Supreme Court Justices.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (kdS6q)

569 Hey, we didn't know the name "The Race" was already taken.

Posted by: The La Raza Lawyers Assn. at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (8ZskC)

570 516 Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:19 PM (UBBWX)

Right it is far fucking better the system we have RIGHT now Shitpig.

A Judge gets confirmed on voice vote that is a vocal member of a racist organization dedicated to reconquista....

Let's keep having the GOP Senate Fuck-ups Jedi Hand Wave in rats in the corn.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (g8Hfr)

571 Don't the Irish realize they've been throw into the white privilege bucket with the rest of those who are of European descent?

Poor bastards.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (nfGqA)

572 The protesters chased and taunted Trump's supporters outside the San Jose Convention Center. They surrounded one woman and threw eggs and bottles at her.

"It was unbelievable," said Steve Tong, a Cupertino resident who attended the Trump rally.

Tong said after the rally, he was walking toward a nearby parking structure and saw protesters surrounding and taunting an elderly couple.

----------------------

BOTTLES and taunting the elderly.

Right Ben, it's all just a big Halloween prank.

Posted by: The media Suxs at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (CE0QQ)

573 On that I absolutely agree. Trump's very thin record and rhetoric are another. And in this instance, I do not see his comments as racist at all.

Vaya con carne.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (p4UlV)
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Yeah, just to be clear, these riots are despicable, and Trump bears no blame at all for them. They are an assault on the spirit of free speech and need to be condemned as loudly and often as possible and violent participants need to face jail time.

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (mFkVC)

574 Somehow we have entered a dimension where violence is "free speech" and protected while what we knew as speech (making intelligible sounds with the mouth in order to communicate) has become "violence" and it is the duty of all right thinking persons to stop it. I don't like this dimension. I want to go home.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 05:26 PM (GDulk)

575 ..."Vaya con carne."
-Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:23 PM (p4UlV)

I will go with meat. And for the vegetarians? Every burger you don't eat?

...I'll eat three.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 03, 2016 05:26 PM (OQ9R7)

576 The thing is, the organization made a conscious decision to name itself "La Raza Lawyers Association", and its members have joined that organization, knowing full well the connotations of that phrase regardless of the legal doublespeak explanation on their website. If they had named themselves the "Hispanic Lawyers Association" we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 05:26 PM (GUBah)

577 See the Assn's own 'About Us' page - it was founded by Mario Obledo, MALDEF's then general Counsel in 1971.

http://larazalawyers.org/about-us/

More on MALDEF:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6156

Seems clear La Raza Lawyers Assn is based on illegal immigrants rights/getting them citizenship, which is in opposition to one of Trump's key issues. You can quibble about whether or not they are part of La Raza, but it seems like a clear conflict of interest for the judge.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:26 PM (NOIQH)

578
Yeah.... bummer of a name.

We're really not related to THAT KKK. Have nothing to do with that KKK.

Totally Unrelated.

Totally.

Swearsies.

Posted by: The Legal Association of the KKK at June 03, 2016 05:26 PM (8XRCm)

579 Hmmm, the "Go!" votes are leading the "Don't go" votes.

Easy to type, but still a major hassle for me, to actually go in the flesh to this meeting -- takes a lot of prep, and then performance, then in the aftermath even more work to process the data collected. I may not have the gumption.

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:26 PM (jBuUi)

580 561 Quaver vs. quiver. Discuss.
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 05:24 PM (LAe3v)

Add in "quim" and it's a deal.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:26 PM (p4UlV)

581 is it still kosher to viciously mock obvious trolls around here?"

Sure. That fun never changes.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 05:26 PM (C9pBZ)

582 just don't call me late for supper

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:26 PM (evdj2)

583 it'll be interesting to see next week's polls...this week the beast of Hillary was up 2-3%...I predict next week it's tied or DJT up 1-2%

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:27 PM (0LHZx)

584 I know most commenters here don't care about non-white american citizen votes, but that's not a good way to make friends, even if the judge is a political enemy.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:08 PM (UBBWX)

-------------

You sound so concerned.

Posted by: Soona at June 03, 2016 05:27 PM (Fmupd)

585 "California is going to be a Hispanic state and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. They should go back to Europe."

-- Mario Obledo, founder of the La Raza Lawyers Assn, 1998

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:27 PM (NOIQH)

586 You mean like the link on their page w/text and hyperlinks to La Raza?

Nah. Oh, wait...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 05:24 PM (C9pBZ)
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I would be very interested to see this. Can you post a link?

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:27 PM (mFkVC)

587 Go, zombie, go!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:27 PM (NOIQH)

588 Ah I've had it...I just volunteered for the Trump campaign...All the trolls and never trump people and the violent left convinced me..thanks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (Ozsfq)

589 Steve H. Graham, formerly of Hog On Ice game, now at www.ToolsOfRenewal.com, wrote an excellent post last night there about how we don't live on a God-governed Earth, but rather we live in Satan's Death Camp, and we should govern our spiritual and physical lives accordingly.

Prescient for our current political system.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (rW2a0)

590 557 If yer not drinkin', yer not fightin, if yer not fighting, yer losing...

I've got to get this cross-stitched and framed.

Beautiful. Just beautiful. Too long to get on my head-stone ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (fiGNd)

591
Ever notice that virtually no one is named Hitler or Goebbels?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (p4UlV)

592 So, can anyone find any substantial connection between the La Raza Lawyers Association and La Raza?"

----

Other than a Trademark Protected name???

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (8XRCm)

593 The judge is not a member of La Raza. He is a member of the La Raza
Lawyers Association of San Diego, which seems to be completely
unconnected.

The Storm Front Lawyers Association, no connection whatsoever with Storm Front.

Got it.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (oKE6c)

594 Did you ever see "Only the Lonely?" When Maureen O'Hara tells John Candy to get married and have "a brood of Polack-Dago mutts!"

-
Get me to a safe space!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (Nwg0u)

595 Has Trump's lawyers filed a petition for the Judge to recuse himself? If not, why not? V

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (V8uX9)

596 just don't call me late for supper
Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:26 PM (evdj2)

You're not late for supper yet, unless you're in Newfoundland. If you're in Greenland, you're way late.

It's nightcap time in England. Of course, it's ALWAYS nightcap time in England.

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (s5o+q)

597 I'm always late to the Ace in-depth posts, so I usually don't comment. But I decided to say anyway that you are spot on. My fear for America grows daily, and I say that without one ounce of hyperbole. We're in a bad, bad way. And hardly anyone seems to give a shit.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (+FSld)

598
You can call me Oriental, I don't care.
Posted by: Country Singer

"Hey, dude. I ditched 5th period yesterday. Can I copy your algebra homework at lunch?"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (kdS6q)

599 585 "California is going to be a Hispanic state and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. They should go back to Europe."

-- Mario Obledo, founder of the La Raza Lawyers Assn, 1998
Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:27 PM (NOIQH)

_____

Yeah but dude that has nothing to do with La Raza Lawyers Association **OF SAND DIEGO**

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (0LHZx)

600 560 Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)

If you do go, don't tell anyone, especially us.
Posted by: rd

EXACTLY!

And If I can't discuss the event, under any circumstances, then why bother attending?

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:29 PM (jBuUi)

601 La Razza wants to retake Texas? Good luck with that. They do realize how that's ended for Mexico in the past right?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 03, 2016 05:29 PM (nfGqA)

602 He's part of a legal group called the KKK, not the national KKK group. True, the name is very unfortunate.

Posted by: The racist La Raza at June 03, 2016 05:29 PM (CE0QQ)

603 It's all yours, ScoggDogg, do with it what you will.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 05:29 PM (2cS/G)

604 "Hey, dude. I ditched 5th period yesterday. Can I copy your algebra homework at lunch?"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (kdS6q)

Yeah, in that regard I'm the Asian Obama. He sucks at basketball, I suck at math.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 05:29 PM (GUBah)

605
Yeah, just to be clear, these riots are despicable, and Trump bears no blame at all for them. They are an assault on the spirit of free speech and need to be condemned as loudly and often as possible and violent participants need to face jail time.
Posted by: person
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Face jail time?
I would argue that they should be treated to a free shampooing with Bo Svenson's hickory stick.

Posted by: Chi at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (XGqPs)

606 "Where are you from? Can I call you Italian? Or German?"
.................

Actually, I'm from Kepler-186f and sorry to tell you we love pork.

Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (HgMAr)

607 Ever notice that virtually no one is named Hitler or Goebbels

Admittedly, it has been a struggle...

Posted by: Madame Hitler's Unique Wedding & Events Services, Inc. at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (8ZskC)

608 Ever notice that virtually no one is named Hitler or Goebbels?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (p4UlV)

_____

Or Englebert

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (0LHZx)

609 Other than a Trademark Protected name???
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (8XRCm)

"La Raza" is trademarked?

No shit?

That's really, terribly, surreally hilarious.

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (s5o+q)

610 "California is going to be a Hispanic state and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. They should go back to Europe."

-- Mario Obledo, founder of the La Raza Lawyers Assn, 1998

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:27 PM (NOIQH)

Somewhere they can't follow us? Or do they just want to be left alone to return to eviscerating victims to propitiate the Sun God?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (oKE6c)

611 Cease fire.

Sillypig apologized and left.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (hTqVx)

612 There little hobby horse Aztlan, a mythical country"

Yeah. About that - so descendants of a European conquest who speak that language want it "back"?

Get in line, a**wipes. My ancestors were here long before.

(if trollburger wants to play that game)

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (C9pBZ)

613 >>Ah I've had it...I just volunteered for the Trump campaign

I hope you negotiated for a hat.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (/tuJf)

614 Trump is to Howe, Shapiro, Kristol, and the rest of the GOPe "intellectual class" as Al Pacino was to the Baird School in Scent of a Woman

Posted by: kbdabear at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (5VTIh)

615 I wonder if ladyboys are good at math?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (DW+jj)

616 Ahhhh...where have I seen this before?

Russia 1905 and 1917? Germany 1920s and 1930s? China 1950s and 1960s? South Vietnam 1960s and 1970s? Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela et al present day.

Where ever communism/socialism rears it's misshaped head violence against the rule of law appears.

Thanks Obama!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (ej1L0)

617
"Hey, dude. I ditched 5th period yesterday. Can I copy your algebra homework at lunch?"

Yeah, in that regard I'm the Asian Obama. He sucks at basketball, I suck at math.
Posted by: Country Singer

"Damn! Hey, Dude -- Dude in the glasses...."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (kdS6q)

618 Try that shit in a state that hasn't illegally disarmed its citizens like California, and some of those TERRORISTS will meet their maker. I live near a major city (not in California) and have carried regularly for about a year now.

If you open your eyes and ears, the undercurrents are changing for the worse. It is NOT like before, not in my lifetime, and I am in my late 50's. There is a "last stand" mentality that is starting to appear in the minds and hearts of Joe and Jane America. Oh, and they are nearly universally ARMED. Over 300 million weapons and 12 billion rounds.

If you somehow think that Civil Wat II isn't coming, I truly feel sorry for your sorry ass. The Mayor and Police of a major city just let this attack happen because of one reason: the Candidate was of the opposing party. Law is out the window, mob rule is replacing it. The 1700's that spawned the US Constitution aren't identical, but the tyranny of a runaway government is eerily similar.

Food and ammo. Don't get caught low with either one. You won't get a second chance.

Posted by: New Amerika at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (UsCnO)

619 Yes, our group, Swastika Over Amerika, is being unfairly criticized because of a negative association many people have with Swastikas.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (Nwg0u)

620 576 Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 05:26 PM (GUBah)

Go to their site...it's hilarious....

"The name"

Well yes La Raza *can* mean "the race" but we prefer it is thought of as "the people."

Assholes.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (g8Hfr)

621 Face jail time?
I would argue that they should be treated to a free shampooing with Bo Svenson's hickory stick.
Posted by: Chi at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (XGqPs)
-------------------

Well, then the violence to the nation's principle's will be escalated, and we'll have to throw the stick-wielder in the clink.

Better just to have the police arrest them and see them tried for assault and battery.

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (mFkVC)

622 588 Ah I've had it...I just volunteered for the Trump campaign...All the trolls and never trump people and the violent left convinced me..thanks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (Ozsfq)

Fleet Admiral Nevergiveup has a nice ring to it! Or CNO!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (p4UlV)

623 Ever notice that virtually no one is named Hitler or Goebbels

There was that kid who was named after hitler or something and the State took him away from his "parents"

I forget where that was

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (Ozsfq)

624 588 Ah I've had it...I just volunteered for the Trump campaign...All the trolls and never trump people and the violent left convinced me..thanks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (Ozsfq)

Welcome to the Dark Side.... make sure you get a hat...

Posted by: Dark Helmet, Trump supporter at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (qf6WZ)

625 Ace,
Have you read the Historian Paul Johnson's book, "The Intellectuals"?

It's an important work.

Intellect is the ability to make distinction.

Being an intellectual is another thing entirely.

Posted by: Pastorius at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (gMAUH)

626 601 La Razza wants to retake Texas? Good luck with that. They do realize how that's ended for Mexico in the past right?
Posted by: Marcus T at June 03, 2016 05:29 PM (nfGqA)

___

Give us 20 years

Posted by: Unrestricted Immigration and Birth Rates at June 03, 2016 05:32 PM (0LHZx)

627 Watching the Molly Maguires (1970) with Sean Connery, Richard Harris. It's a oldie but very goody. Saw this in the theater when it came out.

Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 05:32 PM (3wHFl)

628 So he can take the motherfucking "retraction" that he put out and stick it where the sun don't shine.

While you can throw an unboiled egg hard enough to hurt someone I'd guess you'd have to hard-boil it 1st for this procedure. Check with your local ER.

Posted by: DaveA at June 03, 2016 05:32 PM (gSkG7)

629 "By the pricking of my thumbs

Something wicked this way comes"

Old Billy boy couldn't have foreseen all this but some of us did.
The difference is when our thumbs start getting prickly.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at June 03, 2016 05:32 PM (gNgyc)

630 Fleet Admiral Nevergiveup has a nice ring to it! Or CNO!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (p4UlV)

it does

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:32 PM (Ozsfq)

631 Sillypig apologized and left.
Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (hTqVx)

----

Apologized for bringing the topic up.

Did NOT apologize for calling everybody here a racist.

Fire at will.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:32 PM (8XRCm)

632 620
"The name"

Well yes La Raza *can* mean "the race" but we prefer it is thought of as "the people."

Assholes.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (g8Hfr)

Then why not call it "La Gente?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:32 PM (p4UlV)

633 "Damn! Hey, Dude -- Dude in the glasses...."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (kdS6q)

Hahaha! Yeah, that one is spot on. Coke bottle bottoms back then, with the really ugly plastic frames, which my brother referred to as "goggles". Contacts these days, though.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 05:33 PM (GUBah)

634 Zombie, it sounds like something in your gut is telling you not to go.
If that's the case, listen to your gut.

Posted by: @votermom boiling eggs at June 03, 2016 05:33 PM (7lVbc)

635 Fire at will.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:32 PM (8XRCm)

Fire for effect

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:33 PM (Ozsfq)

636
Ah I've had it...I just volunteered for the Trump campaign...All the trolls and never trump people and the violent left convinced me..thanks
Posted by: Nevergiveup

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAf0QnLFS7Q

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:33 PM (kdS6q)

637 ut we prefer it is thought of as "the people."

----

Oh .... like Das Volk???

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:33 PM (8XRCm)

638 I see former LA mayor Tony Villar is trying to get relevant and spouting off again. Hoping to ride the unrest to the governor's office, what a El Douche

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 03, 2016 05:33 PM (6Ll1u)

639 612 There little hobby horse Aztlan, a mythical country"
Posted by: Anon a mouse

I explained it all very clearly in my recent report about the Trump protest in Burlingame.

Quote from my report:

"Welcome to Aztlan: Rise of the Brown Power Movement

The pushback from left-wing Hispanic activists against Trump's proposal to build a wall along the U.S./Mexico border has been swift and intense. A common strategy, as seen here, is to not merely criticize the wall, but to take the most extreme counter-position: To insist that the entire southwestern United States is actually part of Mexico, and that therefore all "white" people need to be deported from what is really Mexican territory. "Aztlan," for those who don't know, is the mythological homeland of the Aztecs, similar to "The Garden of Eden" in Judeo-Christian belief. Setting aside the obvious likelihood that Aztlan is almost certainly fictional -- that is, not a physical place, but a myth -- even the few spots proposed as possible historical locations for Aztlan are all well within the borders of modern Mexico. It was not scholars but Chicano activists who in recent years latched onto the term "Aztlan" and redefined it as "territory now in the United States which at any point in the past was controlled by Spain or Mexico" -- in other words, what we now call "the Southwest," including California and Texas.

So when you see signs at anti-Trump rallies mentioning "Aztlan" -- and there were plenty of them at this one -- remember that it's a reference to "the Reconquista," i.e. support for the "reconquering" of lands ceded by Spain and Mexico to the United States during the 19th century, and (to put it in blunt terms) expelling all non-Hispanics from California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Texas. "

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:33 PM (jBuUi)

640 Listen to Your Heart, Zombie.

Posted by: Roxette at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (VGG67)

641 Juan Williams is one stupid person.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 05:01 PM (/tuJf)
...................
The producer must meet him before each show and say: "Here's your check Juan, now go out there and say something really retarded."
Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM

I think you just insulted Retarded-Americans, err umm Intellectually-Challenged Americans, well Differently oh whatevah!

Posted by: Farmer at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (o/90i)

642 There was that kid who was named after hitler or something and the State took him away from his "parents"

I forget where that was

New Jersey

https://is.gd/rXoB6E

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (evdj2)

643 It is intellectually dishonest to attempt to disconnect the race of a thug from that thug's actions, when time after time that racial group of thugs turns upon its country and the laws of that country. It is homo-sapiens versus neanderthals, as usual, and just as it should be, across the ages. They do not have the intellectual capacity to move beyond their tribalism, and their hatred of the white races, and we are certainly delusional if we believe that they will ever be assimilated in any meaningful way. We need to employ wrath.

Posted by: goon at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (WCaSy)

644 Ah I've had it...I just volunteered for the Trump campaign...All the trolls and never trump people and the violent left convinced me..thanks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (Ozsfq)

Fleet Admiral Nevergiveup has a nice ring to it! Or CNO!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (p4UlV)

The "he's made the right enemies" theory of political alignment.

Sure, it's realpolitik. So what?

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (s5o+q)

645 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (GwIKd)

646 Our name can mean anything, really.

Posted by: National Association of Caucasian People at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (0LHZx)

647 And, yeah, are you offended by this group, too:

http://irish-lawyers.org/

No, of course not.

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:09 PM (UBBWX)

You're a brainwashed POS. You buy into the reality that any white racial group is automatically racist, just for it's existence. It doesn't have to be named "the race", nope if it's white it's automatically racist, or at least guilty until proven innocent. This is the way progressives have conditioned you to think, but maybe think is too strong a word. This is they way they've conditioned you to react.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (bOPU/)

648 so, we have an Irish one, and an Italian one.
Anyone going to call those groups racist?

Posted by: Sexypig at June 03, 2016 05:11 PM (UBBWX)
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No, and I wouldn't necessarily call a Mexican-American Lawyers group racist either.
But La Raza is a radical, left-wing, anti-Anglo, open-borders, anti-American group.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (T/5A0)

649 Seriously, someone mentioned a link on the La Raza Lawyers Association website to La Raza - can anyone post a link to the page that has the link?

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (mFkVC)

650 566 Quaver vs. quiver. Discuss.
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 05:24 PM (LAe3v)

Item A is askeered.

Item B is aroused.

Mostly.
Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:25 PM (s5o+q)

Wait, .... what? Then what's this fuckin' thing on my back?

Posted by: Robin Hood at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (Ycgco)

651 625 Ace,
Have you read the Historian Paul Johnson's book, "The Intellectuals"?

It's an important work.

Intellect is the ability to make distinction.

Being an intellectual is another thing entirely.
Posted by: Pastorius at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (gMAUH)

Intellectual is sort of on par with "truthiness" in that regard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:35 PM (p4UlV)

652 >>Ever notice that virtually no one is named Hitler or Goebbels?

Saw a "60 Minutes" segment where they interviewed the children of the Nazi leaders (this was in the late 70's/early 80's) and many of them chose not to have kids.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:35 PM (NOIQH)

653 Welcome to the Dark Side.... make sure you get a hat...
Posted by: Dark Helmet, Trump supporter at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (qf6WZ)

You know, back in the old days, when you joined the Dark Side, you got a free drink and a canape'.

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:35 PM (s5o+q)

654 If I get hit with an egg, it's going to be Aggravated Assualt and Attempted Murder with a Dangerous Weapon!

-Michele Fields

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at June 03, 2016 05:36 PM (hTqVx)

655 Russia 1905 and 1917? Germany 1920s and 1930s?
China 1950s and 1960s? South Vietnam 1960s and 1970s? Nicaragua, Cuba,
Venezuela et al present day.

Where ever communism/socialism rears it's misshaped head violence against the rule of law appears.

Thanks Obama!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 03, 2016 05:30 PM (ej1L0)
You left out what may be the most apposite example: Spain, 1935.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 05:36 PM (oKE6c)

656 expelling all non-Hispanics from California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Texas. "
Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:33 PM (jBuUi)

___

So we're talking, what, 100K people?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:36 PM (0LHZx)

657
Try that shit in a state that hasn't illegally disarmed its citizens like California

Calfornia isn't disarmed,we had record gun sales last year and with the possible exception of Texas we have more legally registered fire arms than any other state in the country

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 05:36 PM (lKyWE)

658 While you can throw an unboiled egg hard enough to hurt someone I'd guess you'd have to hard-boil it 1st for this procedure. Check with your local ER.

Freezing might be more effective.

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:36 PM (evdj2)

659 La Raza is a radical group. Why wd any atty advocacy group use the same name unless they are part of those nuts? NLG are also moonbats. Trump has every right to call out this federal judge.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 05:36 PM (iQIUe)

660 Wait, .... what? Then what's this fuckin' thing on my back?
Posted by: Robin Hood at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (Ycgco)

If it's not full, it's a semi-quiver.

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:36 PM (s5o+q)

661 >>You know, back in the old days, when you joined the Dark Side, you got a free drink and a canape'.

...and all the cookies you can eat.

Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 05:36 PM (VGG67)

662 637 Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:33 PM (8XRCm)

Correct....

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:36 PM (g8Hfr)

663 This is the SF group - is the judge in the SF one or the San Diego?

Just bing it for yourself.

http://larazalawyers.org/about-us/

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (NOIQH)

664 557 If yer not drinkin', yer not fightin, if yer not fighting, yer losing...
Posted by: Lincolnt
------------------
You took your walk already, right?
Did I miss an update?

Posted by: Chi at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (XGqPs)

665 Video looks like a whole bunch of Mexican and blacks as the agressors?

Anyone else see it that way?

Obama really ended all that race shit hunh?

Posted by: Yo! at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (GwIKd)

666 or go with an ice ball. It would be like stabbing someone with an icicle.

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (evdj2)

667 There was that kid who was named after hitler or something and the State took him away from his "parents"

I forget where that was
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (Ozsfq)

I actually dated a girl whose father wore a Hitler mustache. He hated me. Flip side - he creeped me the hell out.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (4ng05)

668 Yeah, in that regard I'm the Asian Obama. He sucks at basketball, I suck at math.
Posted by: Country Singer

I heard an interview with a guy on NPR (don't judge me!) who has made it big as a chef and restauranteer in Atlanta, if I recall correctly. Anyway, he describes himself as a redneck Asian. He found he likes NASCAR, pickup trucks, mudholes and such.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (Nwg0u)

669 Intellect is the ability to make distinction.
Being an intellectual is another thing entirely.

Dude, that's not a urinal. It's a work of art, and an ironic one at that.

Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (LAe3v)

670 Saw a "60 Minutes" segment where they interviewed the children of the Nazi leaders (this was in the late 70's/early 80's) and many of them chose not to have kids.

Himmler's daughter was a celebrity among European neo-Nazis. Last I read of her she was totally unrepentant and still worshiped her scumbag father. Not sure if she's still alive.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (8ZskC)

671 That La Raza Law group links DIRECTLY to the the National La Raza group.... THAT says it all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (Ozsfq)

672 No, and I wouldn't necessarily call a Mexican-American Lawyers group racist either.
But La Raza is a radical, left-wing, anti-Anglo, open-borders, anti-American group.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (T/5A0)
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No one seems to have been able to find a connection between La Raza and the La Raza Lawyers Association, though. At this point it seems to be a Mexican-American lawyers group.

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (mFkVC)

673 >>or go with an ice ball.

Wrist Rocket and Cocktail Ice Cubes.

Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 05:38 PM (VGG67)

674 Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (g8Hfr)

Did you see their further explanation about "The Cosmic People"?

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 05:38 PM (GUBah)

675 "You left out what may be the most apposite example: Spain, 1935."

Wrong. Franco was a Fascist. Fascism is a form of Socialism, despite the attempts by the modern left to deny that.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 05:38 PM (jLXo8)

676 r go with an ice ball. It would be like stabbing someone with an icicle.
Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (evdj2)

-----

Murder weapon melts away.

**lightbulb**

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:38 PM (8XRCm)

677 You know, back in the old days, when you joined the Dark Side, you got a free drink and a canape'.

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:35 PM (s5o+q)

ffftttt Use to you got a black cape, or at least a black hat. Now all you get is a 'I love Milo lapel pin'(no homo).

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 05:38 PM (bOPU/)

678 >>La Raza is a radical group. Why wd any atty advocacy group use the same
name unless they are part of those nuts? NLG are also moonbats. Trump
has every right to call out this federal judge.

La Raza Lawyer SF was founded by MALDEF general counsel when the org moved from TX to SF in 1971. This dude was a life-long activist who relished the day CA will be taken over by Mexicans.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1173

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (NOIQH)

679 And Utah

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (6Ll1u)

680 671 That La Raza Law group links DIRECTLY to the the National La Raza group.... THAT says it all
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (Ozsfq)
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I genuinely wasn't able to find that - can you link?

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (mFkVC)

681 Calfornia isn't disarmed,we had record gun sales last year and with the possible exception of Texas we have more legally registered fire arms than any other state in the country
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 05:36 PM (lKyWE

--------------------

My. So progressive. Oklahoma has zero weapons registered.

And we like it that way.

Posted by: Soona at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (Fmupd)

682 Calfornia isn't disarmed,we had record gun sales last year and with the possible exception of Texas we have more legally registered fire arms than any other state in the country

And that doesn't include the unregistered weapons, of which, I understand, there are quite a few.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (8ZskC)

683 Took the walk. Neighbor was conspicuously absent from his veranda.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (2cS/G)

684 Fascism is a form of Socialism, despite the attempts by the modern left to deny that.

-----

I love debating with retards that the "National Socialist Party" really, truly, was about Socialism.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (8XRCm)

685 Franco was a Fascist.

That was more the Phalange. Franco himself was more of a caudillo, a Pinochetisto before it was cool.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (6FqZa)

686 I've been a racist for exactly 7 and a half years so I'm thinking maybe I should start acting like one.

Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (HgMAr)

687 Anyway, he describes himself as a redneck Asian. He found he likes NASCAR, pickup trucks, mudholes and such.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (Nwg0u)

You'd be surprised how many of us there are, lol. Another prominent one is Henry Cho.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (GUBah)

688 So when you see signs at anti-Trump rallies
mentioning "Aztlan" -- and there were plenty of them at this one --
remember that it's a reference to "the Reconquista," i.e. support for
the "reconquering" of lands ceded by Spain and Mexico to the United
States during the 19th century, and (to put it in blunt terms) expelling
all non-Hispanics from California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico,
Colorado and Texas. "

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:33 PM (jBuUi)
The funny part - and proof positive that they're nitwits - is that if they DID get to run those states in no time flat they'd be Third World shitholes, just like Mexico. See, e.g., the erstwhile Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 05:40 PM (oKE6c)

689 That La Raza Law group links DIRECTLY to the the National La Raza group.... THAT says it all
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (Ozsfq)
-----------------

I genuinely wasn't able to find that - can you link?
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (mFkVC)

No do your own homework..and while your at it, study up on eminent domain for chemjeff.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:40 PM (Ozsfq)

690 Fuq you Ben.

The ocular hazards of egg throwing

Ocular injury sustained as a result of egg throwing. The raw egg can act as a substantial missile, resulting in significant ocular trauma.

Although raw egg throwing may sound like a minor offence, the ocular and orbital consequences can be severe as described in our case reports.

An egg, like a squash ball, fits into the orbital cavity. Relatively little force is therefore dissipated to the orbital rim, the egg transferring most of its kinetic energy directly to the globe on impact. The result is a severe blunt injury to the eye.

Posted by: The media Suxs at June 03, 2016 05:40 PM (CE0QQ)

691 Posted by: Chi at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (XGqPs)

Don't encourage him to get himself thrown in jail. His wife is out-of-country on a work trip which would be ruined if he did. Wouldn't be good for *his* career either.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 05:40 PM (GDulk)

692 663 This is the SF group - is the judge in the SF one or the San Diego?

Just bing it for yourself.

http://larazalawyers.org/about-us/
Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (NOIQH)

_____

Look at the sponsors of the group...Intel, JnJ, Pilsbury...but remember all the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are totes conservative and "job creators" and we have to fight tooth and nail to make sure they pay no taxes.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:40 PM (0LHZx)

693 I love debating with retards that the "National Socialist Party" really, truly, was about Socialism.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (8XRCm)

Difficult to make headway with people who think that "fascist" and "poopyhead" are exact synonyms, though.

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (s5o+q)

694 No do your own homework..and while your at it, study up on eminent domain for chemjeff.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:40 PM (Ozsfq)
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OK, so you won't support your argument?

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (mFkVC)

695 You should go, zombie, and record it, like the dude did at Mittster's famous 47% meeting.

My two cents...

Posted by: PJ at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (cHuNI)

696
Ben Howe 4 minutes ago

I don't mind saying people were wrong to throw eggs at her. But ppl pretending she was this innocent defenseless girl hiding is ridiculous.

"Apparently high on a controlled substance, she made a sudden movement. In immediate fear for myself, my partner and innocent bystanders...."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (kdS6q)

697 I genuinely wasn't able to find that - can you link?
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (mFkVC)

No do your own homework..and while your at it, study up on eminent domain for chemjeff.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:40 PM (Ozsfq)

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psssssssst....... i think that IS chemjeff......

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (8XRCm)

698 And that doesn't include the unregistered weapons, of which, I understand, there are quite a few.

Is there anyone in this entire freakin' state that hasn't suffered a tragic canoe accident?

Posted by: Gov. Brown at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (LAe3v)

699 Interesting that some people can't "Bing" or even "Google"...

Or understand the concept of not wanting to drive traffic to a site.

Interesting.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (C9pBZ)

700 If we remember from our recent history, the Alinskites, whose members include both Hillary and Obama, their stated goal was to do exactly what is happening now in this country.

This is following the Rules for Radicals playbook letter and verse.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (4ng05)

701 680 671 That La Raza Law group links DIRECTLY to the the National La Raza group.... THAT says it all
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (Ozsfq)
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I genuinely wasn't able to find that - can you link?
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (mFkVC)

Christ.

Maybe we could get the La Raza Lawyers Association to send you a notarized affidavit attesting to their affiliation to La Raza? Would that finally satisfy you?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (oKE6c)

702 >>No one seems to have been able to find a connection between La Raza and the La Raza Lawyers Association, though. At this point it seems to be a Mexican-American lawyers group.

http://sdlrla.com

Link is under the Community section on the right side of the page. Not that hard to find. Took about 20 seconds to find.

Seriously, do you not know what La Raza is all about?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (/tuJf)

703 OK, so you won't support your argument?
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (mFkVC)

LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (Ozsfq)

704 I genuinely wasn't able to find that - can you link?
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (mFkVC)

No do your own homework

Soooo.... no.

Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (LAe3v)

705 And if you listen to the tapes of the San Jose riot, you will hear a leader on a bullhorn talking about how we stole the land from Mexico, blah, blah, so the organized left is using that to foment violence.

Posted by: PJ at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (cHuNI)

706 psssssssst....... i think that IS chemjeff......

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (8XRCm)

____________
He DOES evince the same style, now that you mention it.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (oKE6c)

707 Before the white people leave, they should blow all the damns and irrigation canals.

Aztlan would be pretty fucked without water.

Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (VGG67)

708 psssssssst....... i think that IS chemjeff......
Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (8XRCm)

Wouldn't surprise me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (Ozsfq)

709 Agree with the post 100%. Welcome to the viewpoint of the long reviled demographic slurred for being anti-intellectual. Alas, vindication does not taste sweet.

Posted by: Reactionary at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (TsW/N)

710
@548

Great minds and all that.

Posted by: The racist La Raza at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (CE0QQ)

711 "Seriously, do you not know what La Raza is all about?"

He's just showing us his Concern.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (jLXo8)

712 Wouldn't membership in La Raza be grounds for impeachment? It's an organization that calls for the violent overthrow of the US government.

Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (Doh4+)

713 682 Calfornia isn't disarmed,we had record gun sales last year and with the possible exception of Texas we have more legally registered fire arms than any other state in the country

We don't have to register them in Texas.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 05:43 PM (yCZVl)

714 Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 05:36 PM (lKyWE)

Texas doesn't have a gun registry.

Posted by: Mr. Mxyzptlk at June 03, 2016 05:43 PM (kHJ3a)

715
Ben Howe 4 minutes ago

I don't mind saying people were wrong to throw eggs at her. But ppl pretending she was this innocent defenseless girl hiding is ridiculous.

What a cocksucker.

Ben Howe, you are a cocksucker and someday I hope to tell you that in person.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:43 PM (jK3b3)

716 The best part is how the guy from the tweet does exactly what Ace said they would do in the last paragraph of his clarifying remarks.

Posted by: Gman at June 03, 2016 05:43 PM (VXoTW)

717 And if you listen to the tapes of the San Jose riot, you will hear a leader on a bullhorn talking about how we stole the land from Mexico, blah, blah, so the organized left is using that to foment violence.
Posted by: PJ at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (cHuNI)

Arguably, treason.

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:43 PM (s5o+q)

718 695 You should go, zombie, and record it, like the dude did at Mittster's famous 47% meeting.

My two cents...
Posted by: PJ

But you're missing the point:

I WANT SANDERS TO WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION.

So why in the world would I intentionally discredit him now? Quite the opposite -- I should be campaigning FOR Sanders.

*** Note that I want Sanders to win the nom because once he's the actual nominee, THEN and ONLY THEN will I tear him a new asshole and watch as Trump totally eviscerates him electorally.

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:43 PM (jBuUi)

719
Link is under the Community section on the right side of the page. Not that hard to find. Took about 20 seconds to find.

Seriously, do you not know what La Raza is all about?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (/tuJf)
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Yup, it's there. I don't know that that's a substantial link, but it is a literal link. So I stand corrected.

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:43 PM (mFkVC)

720 696
Ben Howe 4 minutes ago

I don't mind saying people were wrong to throw eggs at her. But ppl pretending she was this innocent defenseless girl hiding is ridiculous.

"Apparently high on a controlled substance, she made a sudden movement. In immediate fear for myself, my partner and innocent bystanders...."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (kdS6q)

Tell me this cocksucker did not really say that. I'm just beside myself.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:44 PM (p4UlV)

721 Why do i get the feeling that PalinSteel has returned?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 03, 2016 05:44 PM (p2X2f)

722 Howe just keeps douching in deeper.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 05:44 PM (+wjl1)

723 Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (mFkVC)

Or you could, go to their website or something?

Or! Lizzy kindly found you the link you've so studiously avoided

http://larazalawyers.org/about-us/

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1173

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 05:44 PM (GDulk)

724 We don't have to register them in Texas.

Just sayin'.

In California, registration is considered more of a "guideline" than an actual law.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 05:45 PM (8ZskC)

725 Ben Howe, you are a cocksucker and someday I hope to tell you that in person.

While looking down at him splayed on the sidewalk.

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:45 PM (evdj2)

726 http://larazalawyers.net/id3.html

Hispanic Scholarship Fund

League of United Latin American Citizens

National Council of La Raza

National Latino Peace Officers Association

California Chicano News Media Association

Hispanic Chamber of Commerce

Pep and anyone else...now eat shit and fuck off

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:45 PM (Ozsfq)

727 663 Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:37 PM (NOIQH)

Correct...

I am particularly amused by their little "we are offended ANY would dare translate our name as the race" bit....

so the German-American Lawyer Guild saying "Ein Volk" is totes a-ok?

German is an Ethnicity as well lads.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:45 PM (g8Hfr)

728 >Ben Howe, you are a cocksucker and someday I hope to tell you that in person.

While looking down at him splayed on the sidewalk.

Covered in eggs.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 05:45 PM (+wjl1)

729 It's kind of cute, though, that some are concerned about Texas' status.

We'll be fine.

Trust me.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 05:45 PM (C9pBZ)

730 706 psssssssst....... i think that IS chemjeff......

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (8XRCm)

____________
He DOES evince the same style, now that you mention it.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (oKE6c)
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Apparently I'm also RedBanzai.

Why is it so important for Trump supporters to believe no-one can have an honest disagreement with them?

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:45 PM (mFkVC)

731 Pouring rain all of a sudden, and I'm 40 feet from the house, where my beer is. So,...umm... nothing....most useless post ever , I don't know why I was compelled to communicate it to anyone, never mind the whole world. Enjoy your day.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (2cS/G)

732 If you throw eggs at a Bernie supporter, they have their best meal in weeks.

Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (HgMAr)

733 Yup, it's there. I don't know that that's a substantial link, but it is a literal link. So I stand corrected.

Let's just say that the La Raza Lawyers Assn. didn't include the link because it wanted to show people what it stands against.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (8ZskC)

734 Look at the sponsors of the group...Intel, JnJ, Pilsbury...but remember all the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are totes conservative and "job creators" and we have to fight tooth and nail to make sure they pay no taxes.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:40 PM (0LHZx)

I seem to remember a connection between IG Farben, Krupp, and many others with the Third Reich. My point being that Fascism and big protected businesses are not without precedent. Racist groups actively working to overthrow the existing rule of law are also not without precedent in The history of Fascism.

Posted by: kraken at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (sdxPm)

735
LMBigSur
Are you blind? She is surrounded!!!

Ben Howe
Other than the giant door shes choosing not to go through because shes shaking her ass and taunting a crowd. Yes.

Jezebel! Harlot of Babylon!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (kdS6q)

736 J.J., I totally made the Fee Waybill story up.

I am at SeaTac Airport trying to prevent a good friend's minor children from being abducted to Dubai by their lunatic Mom and I got bored.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (rW2a0)

737 707 Before the white people leave, they should blow all the damns and irrigation canals.
Aztlan would be pretty fucked without water.
Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (VGG67)

No need. They'll screw up the infrastructure themselves in no time at all.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (oKE6c)

738
Yup, it's there. I don't know that that's a substantial link, but it is a literal link. So I stand corrected.
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:43 PM (mFkVC)

That sounds like that media guy who said that it wasn't really extreme violence. Just a few assaults.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (4ng05)

739
Tell me this cocksucker did not really say that.

I'm not sure which will come next -- Ben cocksucker Howe tweeting he's getting death threats or Ben cocksucker Howe saying his twitter account was hacked.

He's only got those two options to proceed; let's see what he does.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (jK3b3)

740 Reporter manhandled by Trump person? WORST THING EVAR!

Mob violence by anti-Trump people? Meh, they had it coming!

Going to need more kerosene.

I officially just want to watch the world burn.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, readying the webcam at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (9krrF)

741 That sounds like that media guy who said that it wasn't really extreme violence. Just a few assaults.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (4g05)

Well it wasn't like "rape rape"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (Ozsfq)

742 Why is it so important for Trump supporters to believe no-one can have an honest disagreement with them?

In fairness, there isn't much more honest than the argument from personal ignorance.

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (evdj2)

743 If you throw eggs at a Bernie supporter, they have their best meal in weeks.
Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (HgMAr)

Only if they're lacto-ovo vegans.

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (s5o+q)

744 Pouring rain all of a sudden, and I'm 40 feet from the house, where my beer is. So,...umm... nothing....most useless post ever , I don't know why I was compelled to communicate it to anyone, never mind the whole world. Enjoy your day.

I don't understand it either. Now if it was a glass of Jameson's......

Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (LAe3v)

745
LULAC?

As in Leage of Ululating Lebanese Arabic Citizens?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (p4UlV)

746 720 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:44 PM (p4UlV)

Oh it gets better.

The only people who I will take seriously are #NeverTrump people that critique my tweets today. The rest were already my enemy.

-Ben Howe 2:47

Hey Ace you nailed Ben in the nuts with this post.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (g8Hfr)

747 "And if you listen to the tapes of the San Jose riot, you will hear a
leader on a bullhorn talking about how we stole the land from Mexico,
blah, blah"

P.J. O'Rourke had a line from a few years ago, before he became more politically correct, about how the gringoes stole the part of Mexico with all of the jobs, paved roads, and working sanitation systems.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (noWW6)

748 Look at the sponsors of the group...Intel, JnJ, Pilsbury...but remember all the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are totes conservative and "job creators" and we have to fight tooth and nail to make sure they pay no taxes.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 03, 2016 05:40 PM (0LHZx)

Can you say "Danegeld?" I knew that you could.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (oKE6c)

749 Why is it so important for Trump supporters to believe no-one can have an honest disagreement with them?
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:45 PM (mFkVC)

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Because walking in and calling everyone a racist isnt really an honest argument now is it.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (8XRCm)

750 "705 And if you listen to the tapes of the San Jose riot, you will hear a leader on a bullhorn talking about how we stole the land from Mexico, blah, blah, so the organized left is using that to foment violence."

Fine. Declare was on the US after Obama is out of office. I'm sure we have a response to that:

https://youtu.be/N1Kw9TejiUM

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (jLXo8)

751 643 It is intellectually dishonest to attempt to disconnect the race of a thug from that thug's actions, when time after time that racial group of thugs turns upon its country and the laws of that country. It is homo-sapiens versus neanderthals, as usual, and just as it should be, across the ages. They do not have the intellectual capacity to move beyond their tribalism, and their hatred of the white races, and we are certainly delusional if we believe that they will ever be assimilated in any meaningful way. We need to employ wrath.
Posted by: goon at June 03, 2016 05:34 PM (WCaSy)
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The masks come off from the GOPe --- and from those who have only pretended it wasn't about race.

Okay, so Mexican-Americans are Neanderthals. (You earlier called them bacteria --- and all your talk about genetics tells me you're not talking about illegals. Just anyone with Mexican blood, no matter how long they've been here.)
What kind of "wrath" do you want against them?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (T/5A0)

752 Throwing eggs has to be some big Vegan violation. I mean you're exploiting poor chickens. In their minds that ought to be a much bigger crime than assault and battery.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (DW+jj)

753 That sounds like that media guy who said that it wasn't really extreme violence. Just a few assaults.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (4ng05)
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Yeah, that's what I did. I said that the attacks at the Trump rally weren't violent.

Trump supporters... many of them... deserve Trump.

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (mFkVC)

754 Hmm. It seems that some folk don't get the concept of hyperlink, either.

Funny, that.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (C9pBZ)

755
Why is it so important for Trump supporters to believe no-one can have an honest disagreement with them?

hahaha @ the part when you said 'honest'!

Posted by: Mister Magoo at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (jK3b3)

756 Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:43 PM (jBuUi)

No, no, no. Go now, discredit *later*. When it's too late to take back his nomination.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (GDulk)

757 125. Plus digging glitter out of one's tits is annoying as hell. I've been told. *shifty eyes*
Posted by: alexthechick - All Your Parfait Is Belong To Me at June 03, 2016 04:25 PM (

Pics, or it didn't happen.

Posted by: bebe's noobsdedtroy at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (TgmTb)

758 Trump supporters... many of them... deserve Trump.

Thank you.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (Ozsfq)

759 Sorry SexyPig, being a member of Irish Lawyers isn't membership in a race, it's a medical diagnosis related to alcohol poisoning.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (rW2a0)

760 Ben Howe 4 minutes ago

I don't mind saying people were wrong to throw eggs at her. But ppl pretending she was this innocent defenseless girl hiding is ridiculous.

-------------------------

I'm not saying she was asking for it but she was asking for it.

Posted by: The media Suxs at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (CE0QQ)

761 No need. They'll screw up the infrastructure themselves in no time at all.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (oKE6c)

Wait. Whatever do you mean?

Posted by: Zimbabwe, Formerly Rhodesia at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (8ZskC)

762 "Hey Ace you nailed Ben in the nuts with this post."

And did that ever require careful aim.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (noWW6)

763 Ben Howe, you are a cocksucker and someday I hope to tell you that in person.

While looking down at him splayed on the sidewalk.

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It's getting so bad in Chicago the cops are asking victims to fall into previously used chalk outlines. Chalk is not cheap, you know.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (Nwg0u)

764 And that doesn't include the unregistered weapons, of which, I understand, there are quite a few.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 05:39 PM (8ZskC)

Yup.... lakes and rivers are just chock full of.... things...

Posted by: Dark Helmet, Trump supporter at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (qf6WZ)

765 Which is the bigger idiot, Howe or the Vox pinhead?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 05:49 PM (+wjl1)

766 Throwing eggs has to be some big Vegan violation.

It's protected under the emanations of Roe v Wade.

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:49 PM (evdj2)

767
Texas doesn't have a gun registry.

I was only pointing out that California is not disarmed

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 05:50 PM (lKyWE)

768 I'm not saying she was asking for it but she was asking for it.

-
I wonder what she was wearing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:50 PM (Nwg0u)

769 "And why would a lawyers association name themselves La Raza?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic"

Power.

A friend of mine went to a Hispanic Lawyers meeting years ago, as hubby is Hispanic. Loretta Sanzhez gave a talk ENTIRELY IN SPANISH to the lawyers there,condemning white people and pandering to Mexicans so bad that she and her husband and several others got up and left in the middle of it.

Posted by: PJ at June 03, 2016 05:50 PM (cHuNI)

770 Chalk is not cheap, you know.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (Nwg0u)
Not to mention, it's triggering.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 05:50 PM (GUBah)

771
I say, annex Mexico. In 100 years it will be. . . Puerto Rico.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:50 PM (p4UlV)

772 most useless post ever...
Posted by: Lincolntf
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You haven't been reading this thread, have you?

Posted by: Chi at June 03, 2016 05:50 PM (XGqPs)

773 Posted by: Sharkman at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (rW2a0)

You're having quite the week this week.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 05:50 PM (GDulk)

774 Can you say "Danegeld?" I knew that you could.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (oKE6c)

"Once you pay the Danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane."

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:50 PM (s5o+q)

775 >>Why is it so important for Trump supporters to believe no-one can have an honest disagreement with them?

Why do you assume we're all Trump supporters?

This La Raza stuff offends me as an American.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:51 PM (NOIQH)

776 expelling

all non-Hispanics from California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico,

Colorado and Texas. "

note that they aren't even going to try and fuck with Utah and Idaho. Every white person there is crazy heavily armed.

Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 05:51 PM (Doh4+)

777 766 Throwing eggs has to be some big Vegan violation.

It's protected under the emanations of Roe v Wade.
Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:49 PM (evdj2)

Never let a good egg go to waste.

- - Planned Parenthood, Dr. Mengele und Sanger

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:51 PM (p4UlV)

778 Ben Howe looks like an egg.

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:51 PM (evdj2)

779 I don't mind saying people were wrong to throw eggs at her. But ppl pretending she was this innocent defenseless girl hiding is ridiculous.

"Apparently high on a controlled substance, she made a sudden movement. In immediate fear for myself, my partner and innocent bystanders...."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:41 PM (kdS6q)

I can't believe that this jackass could minimize the effect that fear - terror - can have on a person. People can be affected by it for life. I may be old fashioned, but when I see it happen to a women, surrounded by a mob of angry men, that strikes a nerve.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 05:51 PM (4ng05)

780 751 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (T/5A0)

Implying there is a genetic deficiency in La Raza is retarded...

I'm pretty sure I could happily impregnate Daisy Marie barring my wife blowing my brains out.

Instead join me in looking at Scenic Ciudad Juarez and praising the innate superiority of La Raza's Civic Virtue and Business Sense.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:51 PM (g8Hfr)

781 "Once you pay the Danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane."

Posted by: filbert

Or his g**d***ed lutefisk.

Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 05:52 PM (LAe3v)

782 It's getting so bad in Chicago the cops are asking
victims to fall into previously used chalk outlines. Chalk is not
cheap, you know.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (Nwg0u)

I thought they outlawed chalk, and declared Chicago a "safe place."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 05:52 PM (oKE6c)

783 Why is it so important for Trump supporters to believe no-one can have an honest disagreement with them?

Has to be honest first.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 03, 2016 05:52 PM (yCZVl)

784 Jack Woltz is listening, and he doesn't care how many woo, dago, guinea, grease balls come out of the woodwork, my kraut mick friend.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:18 PM (p4UlV)

You left us second-gen bohunks and polacks out of it. My feelings are hurt.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 05:20 PM

Thusly, according to Ben Howe you are allowed to egg JJ, or if you prefer Juan Williams approach you can riot and hit him. Our betters said so, it must be so.

Posted by: Farmer at June 03, 2016 05:52 PM (o/90i)

785 Why do you assume we're all Trump supporters?

This La Raza stuff offends me as an American.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:51 PM (NOIQH)
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I was speaking of the folks who, every time I post, assert that I am Chemjeff or Redbanzai.

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:52 PM (mFkVC)

786 Throwing eggs has to be some big Vegan violation. I mean you're exploiting poor chickens. In their minds that ought to be a much bigger crime than assault and battery.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 03, 2016 05:47 PM (DW+jj)

----

Nope. Poultry Abortions.

Throwing eggs is a sacrament to the left.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:52 PM (8XRCm)

787 "I seem to remember a connection between IG Farben, Krupp, and many
others with the Third Reich. My point being that Fascism and big
protected businesses are not without precedent."

Il Duce said about the Italian variant of same that "fascism is corporatism".

Lefties love to quote that, but they fall silent about it when the big businesses which happen to be in _their_ camp are busily colluding with big government, and deriving favor from big government.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 05:53 PM (noWW6)

788
Actually if the United Negro College Fund's slogan is "a mind is a terrible thing to waste," then Planned Parenthood's is "a mind, a spine, a spleen, a kidney and a liver are terrible things to waste."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:53 PM (p4UlV)

789 Now if you just shoot the eggs at them out of some gals hoo-hah it will be declared performance art.

Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 05:53 PM (HgMAr)

790
Dave Foley*

I don't think all @realDonaldTrump supporters are stupid but if you support Trump and you're not stupid you should be ashamed.

*Yes, the Kids in the Hall/Newsradio one. Sad.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:53 PM (kdS6q)

791 I was speaking of the folks who, every time I post, assert that I am Chemjeff or Redbanzai.

I merely assert that you are valueless twat so, New Category!

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:53 PM (evdj2)

792 Let's just say that the La Raza Lawyers Assn. didn't include the link because it wanted to show people what it stands against.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 05:46 PM (8ZskC)

And the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Ass. is part of the Calif. La Raza Lawyers Ass....

Which also has a direct link on their website to the National Council of La Raza.

Posted by: Don Q at June 03, 2016 05:53 PM (qf6WZ)

793 Every Vegan I know is either sick, commie, gay or anorexic.

I know three, so there is some overlap.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at June 03, 2016 05:53 PM (hTqVx)

794 777 766 Throwing eggs has to be some big Vegan violation.

It's protected under the emanations of Roe v Wade.
Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:49 PM (evdj2)

Never let a good egg go to waste.

- - Planned Parenthood, Dr. Mengele und Sanger
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:51 PM (p4UlV)

More like never let a fertilized egg go to term.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (0mRoj)

795 I mean you're exploiting poor chickens. In their minds that ought to be a much bigger crime than assault and battery.

I've seen worse.

Posted by: The Chicken at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (LAe3v)

796 Why do you assume we're all Trump supporters?

----

Same reason they assume we're all racists.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (8XRCm)

797 790
Dave Foley*

I don't think all @realDonaldTrump supporters are stupid but if you support Trump and you're not stupid you should be ashamed.

*Yes, the Kids in the Hall/Newsradio one. Sad.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:53 PM (kdS6q)
-----------------------

Well, he is Canadian. And frequently drunk.

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (mFkVC)

798 Sorry SexyPig, being a member of Irish Lawyers isn't
membership in a race, it's a medical diagnosis related to alcohol
poisoning.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 03, 2016 05:48 PM (rW2a0)
They get together every year in Scranton, its scary to see so many powerful lawyers drunk and weeping.

Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (Doh4+)

799 I don't think all @realDonaldTrump supporters are stupid but if you support Trump and you're not stupid you should be ashamed.

That's what he says. But what I hear is: 'if your reason for not supporting Trump is to avoid being called "stupid", you're a coward'.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (6FqZa)

800 588 Ah I've had it...I just volunteered for the Trump campaign...All the
trolls and never trump people and the violent left convinced me..thanks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:28 PM (Ozsfq)

Trolls try to deliberately goad people and have a large strain of vulgarity going for them.

The violent Left should be opposed for reasons that are self-evident.

But to lump in people whose main issue is that they (we) can't bring ourselves to support a candidate they think is dishonest, largely matches HRC's policies, but with even less apparent (to us) mental stability, seems like a reach.

Your call about what to do, of course. I simply can't in good conscience vote for either of these candidates, but I don't really think it's fair to lump us in with the violent or the trolls just because we share some of the same ends. We don't have the same motives.

Just something to consider.

Posted by: SARDiver at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (Z3iry)

801
*Yes, the Kids in the Hall/Newsradio one. Sad.

Meh. Actors are notoriously stupid.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (+wjl1)

802 It wasn't a substantial rape, just an out of the way bottom of the page inconsequential rape in her melanin enriched back door.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (ZnIt3)

803 784 Posted by: Farmer at June 03, 2016 05:52 PM (o/90i)

Hey, I ain't no band leader. Yeah, I heard that story!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (p4UlV)

804 675
Wrong. Franco was a Fascist. Fascism is a form of Socialism, despite the attempts by the modern left to deny that.
Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 05:38 PM (jLXo

---------------
Nah, not really. He wasn't into any particular ideology --- and the first thing he did when he consolidated power was to reduce the Falange Party to a meaningless, ceremonial, backroom club.
He was just a pompous military dictator.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (T/5A0)

805 776 Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 05:51 PM (Doh4+)

My personal "Fuck La Raza" Kodak moment came back in 96 on my way to Texas when a Mexican-American explained to me EARNESTLY that Ohio was in fact Mexican ancestral land...

Ohio....Dayton Ohio was under the Spanish and/or Mexican Flag?

No...Aztecs ruled it.

Sure Juan...sure buddy.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (g8Hfr)

806 The Mexican's controlled the missions and a few cities, most of the land was Indian land. Hence the Indian Wars in the west to make way for manifest destiny, and they have been pretty silent on this subject. Except for the fake guy back east who wants to ban redskins, of which 90% of Indians disagree.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (6Ll1u)

807 Not the door all end all site I'm sure but Reverb Press puts Wyoming on the top with 195.7 weapons per 1000 with 114,000 total, Pennsylvania is 11th with 15 per and 191,000 total, 40th California 7.6 per 292,8000, Texas is 18 with 12.8 per and over 337,000 total. New York is on the bottom with 3.3 per and 64,000 total. New Jersey is 40th another unfriendly firearm state.

Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (3wHFl)

808 SexyPig's intervention into the thread really cries out for the return of Politenessman and his Stainless Steel Hanky.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (rW2a0)

809 They get together every year in Scranton, its scary to see so many powerful lawyers drunk and weeping.

You will learn to hate Danny Boy.

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (evdj2)

810 Or his g**d***ed lutefisk.
Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 05:52 PM (LAe3v)

Actually, lutefisk is more of a Norwegian thing.

I say this as (kicks dirt, embarrassed) someone with 1/2 Norwegian ancestry.

I loathe lutefisk with the best of them. Lefse, on the other hand . . .

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (s5o+q)

811 "I say, annex Mexico. In 100 years it will be. . . Puerto Rico. "

Ok do after my second beer I am chortling at that.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (nfGqA)

812 "Ben Howe also said that the woman who was pelted with eggs provoked people by flipping them off and shaking her ass."

Of course, ass-shaking and flipping of the bird are never features of demonstrations by the left themselves. Because "civility", amirite?

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (noWW6)

813
What is a "bohunk?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (p4UlV)

814 >>And the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Ass. is part of the Calif. La Raza Lawyers Ass....

Which is likely also associated with the La Raza Law Students Association (yes, that exists, too)....

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (NOIQH)

815 ..."I am particularly amused by their little "we are offended ANY would dare translate our name as the race" bit....

so the German-American Lawyer Guild saying "Ein Volk" is totes a-ok?

German is an Ethnicity as well lads.
-Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:45 PM (g8Hfr)

Total horseshit. "La Raza" means The Race --Period.

As a German Jew whose ancestors converted to Christianity, I am often confused, as well.

Until a few years ago, I had no idea why my left hand would lead my right hand into the shower.*

*Yes, I used that joke years ago.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (OQ9R7)

816 the morning wood is a terrible thing to waste

Posted by: the Kleenex Corporation at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (6FqZa)

817 No, no, no. Go now, discredit *later*. When it's too late to take back his nomination.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

That's a lot of work for me to go to based on a big IF. It's still a real longshot that he will win the nom. Don't want to waste my time debunking an also-ran candidate.

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:56 PM (jBuUi)

818 "I seem to remember a connection between IG Farben, Krupp, and many others with the Third Reich. My point being that Fascism and big protected businesses are not without precedent."

And instead of eating them last, Albert Speer nationalized them all before the end.

I'm sure many businesses in the US think that by being politically correct, they can talk the socialists here into eating them last as well.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 05:56 PM (jLXo8)

819 PJ,
Yeah, it's fun when a few of the guys realize I comprende ok. Can't read Spanish worth a darn, but biked past a construction group last weekend and heard a comment, so slowed down and fired back. The rest just cracked up, and one guy said something about assuming language in Texas...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 05:56 PM (C9pBZ)

820
*Yes, the Kids in the Hall/Newsradio one. Sad.

Meh. Actors are notoriously stupid.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

He did a full nude scene in a movie and you can see his doodle.

Sad.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 03, 2016 05:56 PM (kdS6q)

821 810 Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (s5o+q)

THEY WANT US TO EAT SNOW filbert...G*DDAMN*ED RACISTS!

//Swedish Chef Lawyers Inc

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:56 PM (g8Hfr)

822 Wow. Sounds like Venezuela is about to explode.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 05:56 PM (/tuJf)

823 Nice job closing that tag, Slapweasel.

*ugh*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 03, 2016 05:56 PM (OQ9R7)

824 What is a "bohunk?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (p4UlV)

Bohemian. From, you know, Bohemia.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 05:57 PM (4ng05)

825 816 the morning wood is a terrible thing to waste
Posted by: the Kleenex Corporation at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (6FqZa)

Will Herr Morgenholz please pick up the white courtesy . . . eww.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:57 PM (p4UlV)

826 Speaking of Nikki Hottie, I'm cutting her some slack today. Just for today. She signed the bill for CCW reciprocity with Georgia this morning.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 05:57 PM (GUBah)

827 I say this as (kicks dirt, embarrassed) someone with 1/2 Norwegian ancestry.

As a quarter Swede, I can only say you should be.

Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 05:57 PM (LAe3v)

828
Dang, should have said "shoot the white courtesy . . ."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:57 PM (p4UlV)

829 Your call about what to do, of course. I simply can't in good conscience vote for either of these candidates, but I don't really think it's fair to lump us in with the violent or the trolls just because we share some of the same ends. We don't have the same motives.

Just something to consider.
Posted by: SARDiver at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (Z3iry)

You made a cogent intellectually and factually correct argument, but for me at least, at this point it ONLY comes down to 2 things: Trump in the White House or a Socialist American hating scum and i choose Trump. And any and all who help by commission or omission to put a democrat in the White House is on the other side from me. But hey that's just me. I am a simple kinda of guy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:58 PM (Ozsfq)

830 824 What is a "bohunk?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (p4UlV)

Bohemian. From, you know, Bohemia.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 05:57 PM (4ng05)

Ok. Danke.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:58 PM (p4UlV)

831 A lot of people said they didn't care about gay marriage until they saw people being forced to bake cakes.
You were made to care.

Now a lot of people say they won't choose between Trump and Hillary/Sanders.
You are being made to choose.

Posted by: @votermom boiling eggs at June 03, 2016 05:58 PM (7lVbc)

832 815 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (OQ9R7)

Heh....

I'm primarily Anglo-Teutonic...

some mornings my right hand beats the hell out of my left in the Bath Tub...others the left strangles the right in Flanders fields.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:58 PM (g8Hfr)

833 What is a "bohunk?"

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A bohunk is a person of the Eastern European persuasion, particularly from the former Yugoslavia. Don't they teach you kids anything in school these days?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:59 PM (Nwg0u)

834 824 What is a "bohunk?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (p4UlV)

Bohemian. From, you know, Bohemia.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 05:57 PM (4ng05)

Ok. Danke.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:58 PM (p4UlV)

Huh. I thought that was the term the 'Ettes used for one of them Duke boys.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 05:59 PM (GUBah)

835 What is a "bohunk?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:55 PM (p4UlV)

I thought it is from "16 Candles"?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 03, 2016 05:59 PM (Ozsfq)

836 I'd like to point out to Ben Howe that the people who came to harass the people they disagree with brought the damn eggs with them with that purpose in mind.

They weren't passing with their shopping when a riot broke out. And they weren't preparing a peace omelet to soothe tensions.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 05:59 PM (+wjl1)

837 How is that woman not innocent? She was trying to enter a bldg to attend a rally. Obviously, Howe is a proponent of thought crimes. How freakin nasty the nevertrumpers are. I'm sick of them.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 03, 2016 05:59 PM (iQIUe)

838 Even if the organizations have no formal affiliation, what's with ANY organization that calls itself "The Race"?

Posted by: iforgot at June 03, 2016 05:06 PM (pC96u)

It is totally benign,Like starting a group calling itself "The People" or "The Volk", folksy, that has a clearly ethnic flavor to it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 03, 2016 06:00 PM (P/kVC)

839
Later gators ..... suppertime.

Gonna have some white meat chicken BBQ, white rice, white grapes with some sparkling white whine.

Vanilla ice cream for desert.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 06:00 PM (8XRCm)

840 The Mexican's controlled the missions and a few cities, most of the land was Indian land. Hence the Indian Wars in the west to make way for manifest destiny, and they have been pretty silent on this subject.

Yep. If the Mexicans prized the Southwest so highly, they should have consolidated their nominal hold on it by overcoming the Indians who actually controlled it. It took the Texans to do that. Either the Mexicans didn't care enough to do the job or they didn't have the competence.

Either way, they lost fair and square.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 06:00 PM (8ZskC)

841 So, how does La Raza deal with the virulent racism in Hispanic culture between those with Spanish ancestry and those with Native American roots? Who are they giving the American West back too?

Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:00 PM (Doh4+)

842 Bohunk, haven't heard that for a long time. People from Bohemia of course.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 03, 2016 06:00 PM (6Ll1u)

843 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:58 PM (p4UlV)

Shouldn't you know that? I thought your family came from Czechoslovakia?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 06:00 PM (GDulk)

844 A bohunk is a person of the Eastern European persuasion, particularly from the former Yugoslavia. Don't they teach you kids anything in school these days?

Kids these days. Most of them have no idea what most racial / ethnic insults mean. No idea.

Guinea
Sheeny
Shine
Wop
Bohunk
Polack
Hebe

Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (LAe3v)

845 Ohio....Dayton Ohio was under the Spanish and/or Mexican Flag?

No...Aztecs ruled it.

Sure Juan...sure buddy.
Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (g8Hfr)

Ah sven, this loaded revisionism is all oover the place. In college, had a black perfesser vigorously maintain that Jesus was black because his parents were really from Egypt ( that's why they ran off there when shit got heavy).
Also, as a bonus stupid, all the Egyptians were black, and their people were Semitic because they were the servant class to the rulers, who were some sort of Master Race. No, not racist at all, the teacher. Because it's settled science that only White People can be racist.

Posted by: kraken at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (sdxPm)

846 A bohunk is a person of the Eastern European persuasion, particularly from the former Yugoslavia. Don't they teach you kids anything in school these days?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Nope.

Bohemia is in the modern-day Czech Republic. NOT Yugoslavia.

Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (jBuUi)

847 Wow. Sounds like Venezuela is about to explode.

-
Boy, I'm glad we're not over there!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (Nwg0u)

848 So La Raza's goal is a MUCH BIGGER failed state of Mexico.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (+wjl1)

849 Ok. Danke.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:58 PM (p4UlV)

Slavs, in other words.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (4ng05)

850 833 What is a "bohunk?"

-
A bohunk is a person of the Eastern European persuasion, particularly from the former Yugoslavia. Don't they teach you kids anything in school these days?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 03, 2016 05:59 PM (Nwg0u)

I only knew "hunkie" as referring to Hungarians.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (p4UlV)

851 It's a portmanteu of Bohemian and Hungarian. Used as a term of disparagement about any central European immigrant, regardless of origin.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (jLXo8)

852 Nood

Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (3wHFl)

853 Either the Mexicans didn't care enough to do the job or they didn't have the competence.

It was more that they got as far as Taos and San Antonio, where the Comanches kept kicking their ass. Then the Republic of Texas took over and the Comanches kicked their ass.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (6FqZa)

854 Yes, Comanche has basically kicked the Spanish out of the West (and the French) before we showed up.

Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:02 PM (Doh4+)

855 Wow. Sounds like Venezuela is about to explode.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 05:56 PM (/tuJf)
........................

Bet they could use a few eggs.

Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 06:02 PM (HgMAr)

856 Technically.... its Bohonk.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 03, 2016 06:02 PM (8XRCm)

857 843 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 05:58 PM (p4UlV)

Shouldn't you know that? I thought your family came from Czechoslovakia?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 06:00 PM (GDulk)

Buz meg, we're Hungarians!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:02 PM (p4UlV)

858 806 The Mexican's controlled the missions ....
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (6Ll1u)
-----------------
Which, of course, were founded by Euro-whites, speaking a European language and following a Near-Eastern Faith.

La Raza sure as hell didn't build that!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 06:02 PM (T/5A0)

859 Bohunk is one from Bohemia, which later was Czechoslovakia. Not Yugoslavia. Bohunks look down on slavs

Posted by: ThunderB at June 03, 2016 06:02 PM (zOTsN)

860 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 03, 2016 05:59 PM (+wjl1)

Exactly. They planned on attacking people and if it hadn't been her it would have been someone else.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 06:02 PM (GDulk)

861 845 Posted by: kraken at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (sdxPm)

The exact formulation is "only people with power can be racist"

you mean like having a bigoted shithead in DC with a weaponized DoJ like that?

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:02 PM (g8Hfr)

862 841,
Exactly. Bunch of Spanish descendants want to yell "first"?

Yeah, kiss my a..

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 06:03 PM (C9pBZ)

863 Posted by: zombie at June 03, 2016 05:43 PM (jBuUi)

You gain nothing by attending, but can lose a great deal. Send a spy or ignore it altogether.

Posted by: Zhytamyr at June 03, 2016 06:03 PM (91nzM)

864
Levin is now going off on the rioters!

Oh boy. Go Great One!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:03 PM (p4UlV)

865 I thought the slang for Hungarian was: "the hottest stripper in the room"?

Posted by: Jean at June 03, 2016 06:03 PM (Doh4+)

866 Wrong. Franco was a Fascist. Fascism is a form of Socialism, despite the attempts by the modern left to deny that.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 05:38 PM (jLXo

---------------

Nah, not really. He wasn't into any particular ideology --- and the
first thing he did when he consolidated power was to reduce the Falange
Party to a meaningless, ceremonial, backroom club.

He was just a pompous military dictator.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 05:54 PM (T/5A0)
I have a different take on Franco. I see him as a Spanish patriot who stepped up when Spain was sliding into the socialist abyss (which it most certainly was in 1935, in many ways there are disturbingly similar to what we're seeing now) as the Reds set about consolidating their hold on power.
Franco obtained support from Mussolini, and later Hitler, to offset the Reds' support from the Stalin as the two fought a proxy war in Spain. After the Civil War, Franco neatly managed to stay neutral in WWII, so he'd played Hitler and Mussolini, and kept Spain out of the war. Some rather fancy footwork, I think.

He was a military dictator, but managed to defang the Red threat at home, and keep Spain stable and out of war through a tumultuous time. So it seems to me that he deserves some props for that.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 06:03 PM (oKE6c)

867 >>It is totally benign,Like starting a group calling itself "The People"
or "The Volk", folksy, that has a clearly ethnic flavor to it.

You forgot the sarc tag?

The founder of the La Raza Lawyers Assn - Mario Obledo - the "godfather of the Latino movement", a life-long activist on behalf of illegal immigrants and worked for/relished the day Mexicans would take over California. He founded other activist organizations like MALDEF.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1173

Posted by: Lizzy at June 03, 2016 06:03 PM (NOIQH)

868 "Ben Howe also said that the woman who was pelted with eggs provoked people by flipping them off and shaking her ass."
........................

Did she not have a nice ass?

Posted by: wth at June 03, 2016 06:04 PM (HgMAr)

869 >>Bet they could use a few eggs.

Yea, but for eating. That's what the fighting is about, they are almost completely out of food.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 06:04 PM (/tuJf)

870 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 03, 2016 06:02 PM (p4UlV)

Ah, my apologies

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 06:04 PM (GDulk)

871 Ah sven, this loaded revisionism is all oover the place. In college, had a black perfesser vigorously maintain that Jesus was black because his parents were really from Egypt ( that's why they ran off there when shit got heavy).
Also, as a bonus stupid, all the Egyptians were black, and their people were Semitic because they were the servant class to the rulers, who were some sort of Master Race. No, not racist at all, the teacher. Because it's settled science that only White People can be racist.
Posted by: kraken at June 03, 2016 06:01 PM (sdxPm)

On the other hand, the American flag flew over Mexico City, as I recall.

So that means it's ours, right?

Posted by: filbert at June 03, 2016 06:05 PM (s5o+q)

872 Bohunk is one from Bohemia, which later was Czechoslovakia. Not Yugoslavia

You are correct.

Posted by: pep at June 03, 2016 06:05 PM (LAe3v)

873 According to accounts at the time, the Aztecs were all cannibals, and used the surrounding tribes as a periodic food source. They only took young men and women for that reason.

The Aztecs were defeated by the Conquistadors because ALL of the surrounding tribes joined up with the Spaniards.

Posted by: Kristophr at June 03, 2016 06:05 PM (jLXo8)

874 Oh no. We've Hungarians here?

Place has really gone downhill.

/

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (C9pBZ)

875
Either way, they lost fair and square.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 03, 2016 06:00 PM (8ZskC)

That's the funny thing about history and humanity, it's never over. They're doing just fine in round 2.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 06:06 PM (bOPU/)

876 866---Jay Guevara

Agree.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (T/5A0)

877 Filbert-
From the Halls of Montezuma...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (C9pBZ)

878 He did a full nude scene in a movie and you can see his doodle.

Sad

---------------------------------

We here at the Charlotte Observer highly suggest showing this movie to your elementary school daughters so we can finally stop this outrageous discrimination of adult male wangs in women's bathrooms.

Posted by: The Charlotte Observer at June 03, 2016 06:07 PM (CE0QQ)

879 Posted by: JackStraw at June 03, 2016 06:04 PM (/tuJf)

Yep. *Now* their government thinks it would be a good idea for all the people to try to grow their own veggies and stuff. Just a little late I'm afraid as no one seems to have remembered that it takes time for things to get ripe enough to eat.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (GDulk)

880
I don't know that that's a substantial link, but it is a literal link.

What the Hell is that supposed to mean?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (IqV8l)

881 According to accounts at the time, the Aztecs were all cannibals, and
used the surrounding tribes as a periodic food source. They only took
young men and women for that reason.

Prescott's history of the Spanish Conquest says that the Aztecs didn't go in for cannibalism as a dietary thing, but only occasionally (not excusing it here) as a rite to ensure their own strength. They apparently ate especially formidable warriors for that purpose. He doesn't mention anything about eating women.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 06:09 PM (oKE6c)

882 He doesn't mention anything about eating women.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 06:09 PM (oKE6c)

That's why Aztec women were so ferocious.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 06:10 PM (GUBah)

883 639 zombie

Thank you. Very informative.

Taken to an extreme -> Mexican-American War, the sequel. We are in casus belli territory.

Well, in a rational, Westphalian sovereignty world, so no worries, mates.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 03, 2016 06:11 PM (u82oZ)

884 I don't know that that's a substantial link, but it is a literal link.

What the Hell is that supposed to mean?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (IqV8l)

See for a minority to be called racist it requires a "substantial link", but for white people a link isn't even required. You're a racists if you don't condemn fast enough.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 06:11 PM (bOPU/)

885 879 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (GDulk)

There are sprouts you can use simple hydroponics to grow in ~ 3 days....

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:11 PM (g8Hfr)

886 Go to their site...it's hilarious....

"The name"

Well yes La Raza *can* mean "the race" but we prefer it is thought of as "the people."

Assholes.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 05:31 PM (g8Hfr)

+++++++++++++++++++++

Cause the rest of you aren't even considered people.
-

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 03, 2016 06:11 PM (P/kVC)

887 I don't know that that's a substantial link, but it is a literal link.

What the Hell is that supposed to mean?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (IqV8l)
It means "you got me, but I've got to draw vacuous distinction in a futile attempt to save face."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 06:12 PM (oKE6c)

888 That's why Aztec women were so ferocious.
Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 06:10 PM (GUBah)

Frustration?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 06:13 PM (oKE6c)

889 "He was a military dictator, but managed to defang the Red threat at
home, and keep Spain stable and out of war through a tumultuous time. So
it seems to me that he deserves some props for that."

When Solzhenitsyn originally came to the West, he started looking up various exiled dissidents from the USSR and visiting them. One was living in Madrid, and took Solzhenitsyn to a photocopy shop so that some documents which had been brought along could be reproduced.

Solzhenitsyn waved a hand at all of the various means of copying things, and said, "Did you have... these... under Franco?"

His host said, "Of course we did!"

Solzhenitsyn said, "Then you don't know what real dictatorship is like."

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 06:13 PM (noWW6)

890 Yep!

Posted by: Country Singer at June 03, 2016 06:13 PM (GUBah)

891 Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:11 PM (g8Hfr)

Probably, but there's no way they have those readily available, and I'm guessing it would take huge amounts of something like that to get even close to the necessary calories. Plus, doesn't replace seed store so you run out of your base material pretty quick.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (GDulk)

892
He doesn't mention anything about eating women.

I thought thats where the Taco came from

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (lKyWE)

893 887 I don't know that that's a substantial link, but it is a literal link.

What the Hell is that supposed to mean?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 03, 2016 06:08 PM (IqV8l)
It means "you got me, but I've got to draw vacuous distinction in a futile attempt to save face."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 06:12 PM (oKE6c)
-----------------------

I admitted I was incorrect, so feel free not to put words in my mouth.

It meant that there is a link between the associations at some level, even if I still don't know what their exact relationship is.

If the Trump University case was taken from the current judge and given to another Hispanic judge with no connection to any group with La Raza in its name, that would be fine with everyone, including Trump, right?

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 06:15 PM (mFkVC)

894 Prescott's history of the Spanish Conquest says that
the Aztecs didn't go in for cannibalism as a dietary thing, but only
occasionally (not excusing it here) as a rite to ensure their own
strength. They apparently ate especially formidable warriors for that
purpose.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 03, 2016 06:09 PM (oKE6c)

Isn't religion automatically good? The West has been so brainwashed by Christianity, and it's obvious goodness, that we take that assumption as fact. It's an incorrect assumption.

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 06:15 PM (bOPU/)

895 "Also, as a bonus stupid, all the Egyptians were black"

Who used their telepathy and antigravity skills to build the Pyramids.

That's what was being taught to pupils in the Oakland, CA public schools at one point.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 03, 2016 06:16 PM (noWW6)

896
I admitted I was incorrect, so feel free not to put words in my mouth.

It meant that there is a link between the associations at some
level, even if I still don't know what their exact relationship is.

If the Trump University case was taken from the current judge and
given to another Hispanic judge with no connection to any group with La
Raza in its name, that would be fine with everyone, including Trump,
right?

Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 06:15 PM (mFkVC)

Would you be willing to give the Aryan Brotherhood Law Association the same benefit of the doubt?

Posted by: DFCtomm at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (bOPU/)

897 Getting here very late, but about Franco (who's still dead).

I hadn't really appreciated (as in known/understood) until relatively recently just what a savvy and successful operator he was when it came to the big game - dealing with Hitler.

He kept Spain out of the fray, notwithstanding relentless and heavy pressure and intimidation from Germany at key points. And "heavy pressure and intimidation", from Germany, after 1940, is the sort of platonic ideal of that concept.

Not much of that rubbed off on later generations, sadly. Spain's idiotic, disgraceful wimp-out following the train bombings stand as the most pathetic performance of a western country since 9/11 (and there's some competition in that category).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 03, 2016 06:18 PM (QDnY+)

898 If the Trump University case was taken from the current judge and given to another Hispanic judge with no connection to any group with La Raza in its name, that would be fine with everyone, including Trump, right?

If my Grandmother had wheels she'd be a school bus.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at June 03, 2016 06:20 PM (rwI+c)

899 886 Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 03, 2016 06:11 PM (P/kVC)

Right...

How many scholarships do they give to non Hispanic blacks, whites, and asians?

"well bro this is for US the people"

fuck them and fuck their apologists.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:20 PM (g8Hfr)

900 Apparently a satire about Hitler returning has hit the bookstores:

Wonder who he'd like in the Dem Primaries:

http://tinyurl.com/Hitler-returns-and-its-a-hoot

Posted by: Sharkman at June 03, 2016 06:22 PM (rW2a0)

901 I guess it wasn't violence-violence and just like in non-rape-rape rape the woman asked for it.

Hey nevertrumpers, these are your overlords, and you will deserve them.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 03, 2016 06:23 PM (QdAXQ)

902 No Leftist(s) can begin a political career grandstanding on any retaliatory violence done to them or their representative group - that they themselves instigated - if none of them are breathing.

Posted by: Far from San Jose at June 03, 2016 06:23 PM (e8U/R)

903
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016 06:15 PM (mFkVC)
The question isn't why this judge is presiding,its why he unsealed the court records.He did it to hurt Trump.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 03, 2016 06:24 PM (lKyWE)

904 891 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 06:14 PM (GDulk)

We're talking balls to the floorboard survival Polli not thriving....

a serious United States would be air dropping Multi-vitamins and water to these people.

We are not a serious United States.

I suggest you read Dean Ing's "Pulling Through"...it has tops on making it 14-21 days in a fallout shelter.

The tips also bear remembering for logistical/economic collapse.

The notion of the sprouts is to add variety and supplement iron rations.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:24 PM (g8Hfr)

905 Presdent Obama should do something about Trumps liesssss !

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 03, 2016 06:29 PM (NuElX)

906 The notion of the sprouts is to add variety and supplement iron rations.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 03, 2016 06:24 PM (g8Hfr)

Exaactly, their a dandy supplement, and something *we* can do for ourselves and almost certainly should. It's too late there, and besides the point when they don't have even the basics of nutrition.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 06:32 PM (GDulk)

907 I don't know that that's a substantial link, but it is a literal link.

What the Hell is that supposed to mean?

It means, I'm not satisfied with just being wrong, I want to look stupid too.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at June 03, 2016 06:35 PM (hTqVx)

908 And yes, I *do* know the correct usage of their and *they're*. I have been having the worst time with homonyms lately.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 03, 2016 06:38 PM (GDulk)

909 323 Violence has absolutely no place in American elections. That's a bell that is very hard to un-ring.

Posted by: Sulla at June 03, 2016 04:49 PM (yzic7)

A flag is thrown on the comment. Officials are conferring...

Comment-nic mismatch. 10 point penalty.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Comment Quality Control Dept. at June 03, 2016 04:52 PM (8ZskC)

Well, Sulla did have some first-hand experience.

Posted by: Sulla at June 03, 2016 06:44 PM (yzic7)

910 Ben Howe is going overboard. He is wrong. The rioters cannot be defended in anyway. They are truly despicable.

The rioters should be in jail. Period. There is no room in America for election violence.

The San Jose Police Chief ,for his refusal to enforce the law, should be indicted, tried, convicted and sentenced to a long prison term.

All that said, it's kinda hard for a hard core Trump supporter to complain about this mob violence, because heir Trump has encouraged it at his rallies. You get what you ask for.

If Trump had defended our Constitution once in a while, instead of trampling it nearly every time he could, one could have more sympathy for the Trump supporters.

Black Kettle meet Black Pot.

Posted by: Unsk at June 03, 2016 07:04 PM (ItEIu)

911 "I really think that when you're at the point of saying "Everyone around me is stupid..."

Americans elected Barack Obama twice to the highest office in their land, and now they're giving me a choice of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Those 3 people are all evil.

Yeah, I think the average voter in America is stupid. And given how much their votes are influenced by their entitlement mentality, possibly evil, too.

Posted by: saltlick at June 03, 2016 07:13 PM (DuXIW)

912 386/Zombie:

"So -- why bother attending? I can't report on it, and even if I did, it would undermine my ultimate goal."

1. Refreshments.
2. Get dirt to use on Hillary later, if necessary.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 03, 2016 07:35 PM (+Wyst)

913 "707
Before the white people leave, they should blow all the damns and irrigation canals.

Aztlan would be pretty fucked without water.

Posted by: garrett at June 03, 2016 05:42 PM (VGG67)"

That is reminiscent of the old joke about Mexicans being mad because the United States stole half their country in 1848 but the thing that makes them especially angry is that we stole the half with all the paved roads, working electricity and good paying jobs.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 03, 2016 07:36 PM (QHgTq)

914 72
For awhile there I thought that our country was headed for a civil war. Alas, I think we're headed to something more-or-less akin to the French Revolution.
Posted by: Shinjinrui at June 03, 2016 04:16 PM (4SznG)

Oh, I'm pretty sure we can have both.

Posted by: rickl at June 03, 2016 07:40 PM (sdi6R)

915 "902
No Leftist(s) can begin a political career grandstanding on any
retaliatory violence done to them or their representative group - that
they themselves instigated - if none of them are breathing.

Posted by: Far from San Jose at June 03, 2016 06:23 PM (e8U/R)"

That sounds like you are suggesting a Saint Bartholomew's Day type reset of the political landscape. While I have no particular problem with the morality of such a thing, it is probably worth remembering the old political saying that elections are useful because they tell who would win a civil war.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 03, 2016 07:45 PM (QHgTq)

916 312
As I said in the last thread, the police in the blue cities are also the ones whose careers and lives might be ruined forever if they shoot a black thug in self-defense. The left has as much contempt for cops as they do for us.

And yet these dolts stand and watch when the left attacks the people who are - most likely to respect and defend cops.

If this becomes a pattern, I might not so driven to defend the next cop who shoots a saintly yute who was just getting his life together.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 03, 2016 04:51 PM (u0lmX)

Karl Denninger once wrote a lengthy post about how cops can only do their jobs because they know that honest, law-abiding citizens have their backs, both rhetorically and physically.

But if their actions alienate good people, they will soon find themselves outnumbered and outgunned by the criminals and gangs.

Posted by: rickl at June 03, 2016 08:13 PM (sdi6R)

917 California LaRaza Lawyers Association

Left sidebar "Links and Affiliates"

Scroll to bottom, links to National Council of LaRaza, based in Washington, DC

http://larazalawyers.net/id3.html

Posted by: NoLongerintheBellyoftheBeast at June 03, 2016 08:14 PM (+12hm)

918 I genuinely wasn't able to find that - can you link?
Posted by: person at June 03, 2016

Hey, person...just STOP your passive-aggressive trolling shit.

With my middle-aged lady google-fu, I found the website along with the link in about 40 seconds.

Posted by: NoLongerintheBellyoftheBeast at June 03, 2016 08:20 PM (+12hm)

919 That sounds like you are suggesting a Saint Bartholomew's Day type reset of the political landscape. While I have no particular problem with the morality of such a thing, it is probably worth remembering the old political saying that elections are useful because they tell who would win a civil war.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at June 03, 2016 07:45 PM (QHgTq)

-----

Not really. Population size is just one of many things that go into the equation of who would win a war of any kind, between nations or within a nation. Factors for victory include: strategic position for a population base, military leaders and tradition, population with soldier skill sets, manufacturing, weapon technology, culture and population unity, organization, food and energy access and supplies, religion, economic systems, definition of victory for each side, etc. I am sure there are more.

There are numerous examples of small populations crushing large ones in wars.

Posted by: William Eaton at June 03, 2016 08:22 PM (KhJh8)

920 Near as I can tell the police in California "there is no general duty to aid another, that police officers owe only a duty to the public at large, and that the police hence have no legal duty to aid a citizen in distress'.

Link:

http://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2094&context=californialawreview

Basically, they have no more duty than trash collectors or janitors or other civil servants or passers-by. Which means the expectations of the community is significantly different than what is actually required of the contractually speaking. Something to keep in mind when some FOP windbag is blabbering on about how the membership is the thin blue line standing in harms way, etc.

Posted by: The Emperor Cletus Augustus at June 03, 2016 08:40 PM (BXWbP)

921 When terrorists attack unarmed service men in Tennessee, armed citizens rally to their locations and stand watch.

When liberals attack unarmed conservatives, police stand by and do nothing.

Either the police are going to do their jobs or armed citizens will.

Especially for any liberal type reading this, think about which you would prefer, but know that your choice will come true.

Posted by: rammer at June 03, 2016 08:43 PM (s6gyr)

922 Just make the 1:10 mark a video ad. White liberals and other masked cowards assaulting hispanics who support Trump and are proud of the US.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 04, 2016 02:11 AM (XwTyM)

923 Being Inteligent is not a crime. Being AN intellectual is a pomposity reserved for those who like to think they are above the natural order of things, when they are so stupid they breed chaos with their every word.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at June 04, 2016 04:01 AM (b9v8M)

924 If you're of Latino heritage, and you see and hear all the ugliness from Trump and his supporters, then you might be angry enough to take a swing at the ignorant hordes coming to cheer on their despot. What goes around, comes around. You may want to label those folks as "leftist", but what other direction do they have to go? I know, south back to Mexico! But the majority of them are here legally. The way I see it, you reap what you sow has never been truer!

Posted by: DontGetIt at June 04, 2016 10:40 AM (mac8H)

925 Not only Goldberg and Geraghty wrote about it, but it was also an official article by The Editors of the National Review. The entire editorial board.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436202/donald-trump-rally-protest-riot-san-jose

Posted by: Irene at June 04, 2016 10:45 AM (QEjSs)

926 It's beginning to look a lot like central america
everywhere you go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt7GV0QyGs4

Posted by: derzornmath at June 04, 2016 12:53 PM (BZHWU)

927 I am aghast at the fixation that some like Red State and The Resurgent have about constantly attacking Trump. I know people who have quit even looking at Red State over that issue. Yes, Trump is not who we should have had as a nominee. Yes, he is a big question mark on most issues. Yes, he is someone who we cannot trust. Yes, his style may not be the smoothest. In spite of all of that we have to look at the big picture. There are a lot more issues out there that need attention. There is still time to figure out by election day how to deal with Trump. But there is way too much tunnel vision at sites like Red State and The Resurgent. The scandal of political censorship at Facebook was largely overlooked at those sites, as an example, because they were so fixated on Trump. Lets end the pitty party and go back to fighting lefties.

Posted by: Raphael at June 04, 2016 01:27 PM (M2zjv)

928 Something went terribly wrong with the right wing commentariat with the rise of Trump. I've struggled to make sense of the Trump phenomenon myself and received almost no help from the pundits and bloggers I've relied on for years. You have been a remarkable exception Ace. Thank you.

After viewing Trump rally videos, I had a strange Harry Potter-esque insight: I haven't chosen Trump; Trump has chosen me. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, lousy haircut and all.

Ps. The mistake made by many, perhaps most, is the belief that Hispanics are a monolithic group. Nothing could be further from the truth. There will be plenty of Hispanic voters for Trump.

Posted by: Mr.Cranford at June 04, 2016 01:48 PM (zfNsX)

929 A big part of this is a failure of the center -- the so-called golden mean. A long time ago, Jose Ortega y Gasset said that both the right and the left tend to have the equivalent of cerebral hemiplegia. If you look at the comments sections on left and right websites, you see more or less mirror image hatred, contempt, and demonization. Every person with a computer is becoming hyper-opinionated and incapable of seeing the weakness in their own point of view. No wonder the best we can do is Hillary and Donald.

Part of this might be that we have a two-party system instead of a multi-party system.

Posted by: Edward at June 04, 2016 02:11 PM (2tHQS)

930 I don't think that word means what you think it means. Kristal, Rove, NRO, Romney, etc., these are not intellectuals.

Posted by: GregBash at June 04, 2016 03:33 PM (K05mI)

931 "The Left became enraged after 9/11 because it's worldview was repudiated and its influence was diminished." What planet did this happen on? The left became re-energized. Even long-dead commies soon found new life. What does this article even say? Lots of anger expressed about something. Breathe deeply. Rewrite. Make sense.

Posted by: ravis at June 04, 2016 06:22 PM (mmP5D)

932 At what point does bringing my Louisville Slugger with my mitt ( Pete Rose Model ) become a 'weapon' ??

Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at June 04, 2016 06:29 PM (uvj0z)

933 This one calls the San Jose riots "criminal assault."

And calls supporters of violent protest against Trump rallies "anti-democratic in its advocacy of violence in response to speech."

http://tinyurl.com/jlmvxt9

Here's another criticizing what happened in San Jose:

http://tinyurl.com/jm2oezx

And another:

http://tinyurl.com/hkskgn7

All within 2 days of the violence. Maybe the intellectuals just needed a day to write.

Posted by: nick at June 04, 2016 06:41 PM (cZLGe)

934 "Mr.Cranford at June 04, 2016 01:48 PM"

Its all about the dollars. Trump didn't need the consultants, he didn't need the lobbyists and he most certainly didn't need Redstate or Newsbusters or NRO, Twitchy or Levin etc.etc, and his voters in the primaries didn't need them either. What is their future? these people fed off the red/blue divide for the past 13yrs, they got you to vote for so and so, they got you to shut down the senate phones in 2006, they got you to go to DC for 9-12 event. They don't have you anymore, the veil has been lifted a time space continuum has been blown open.

If any of those slackers had told you each day on the radio or on their websites that the way to change the Party was to spend 2hrs a month in the Party to become those delegates and precinct captains that elected officials come to and ask for you to vote for them well you would have taken it over by now. 50% of seats are empty and half of the filled ones are lifelong for use of a better word RINOs. If you'd been happy for the last 10yrs they wouldn't have made a dime.

Posted by: JadedByPolitics at June 04, 2016 06:57 PM (jSlyo)

935 "that is 100% on point. I totally get it, you can't vote for the guy, great, stay home, vote for someone else whatever. Howe I guess is voting for HRC... godspeed, no one should take him seriously as a conservative. He and his ilk have elevated #nevertrump to a religion. "
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at June 03, 2016 04:48 PM (Uy8SG)

Howe publicly stated on Twitter, I believe, that he wanted to create campaign videos for Hillary Clinton. And someone else asked the question of how or whether Redstate can "tolerate" Howe. Tolerate him? Many of the their "Frontpage editors" are in the #NeverTrump #KristolMeth crowd right along with him.

Thank you.

Posted by: Cold Warrior at June 04, 2016 08:22 PM (D5d0t)

936 " Tolerate him? Many of the their "Frontpage editors" are in the #NeverTrump #KristolMeth crowd right along with him.
"

Cold Warrior at June 04, 2016 08:22 PM

guess they are PurpleBlueState now

Posted by: JadedByPolitics at June 04, 2016 08:45 PM (jSlyo)

937 guess they are PurpleBlueState now

Posted by: JadedByPolitics at June 04, 2016 08:45 PM (jSlyo)

@Redstate -ers now #PurpleBlueState #ProHillary #FellowTravelers

Tee hee hee.

Thank you.

Posted by: Cold Warrior at June 04, 2016 09:37 PM (D5d0t)

938 Your message has been rejected because long strings of unbroken text are
very annoying. Use the space bar or tinyurl.com as appropriate.

Yea. Annoying is another way of saying you do not have the attention span / brains required for anything longer than a tweet.

factotum666.livejournal.com/829.html

Posted by: Doug Nusbaum at June 04, 2016 10:26 PM (ndbR6)

939 Intellectuals always want to be "above it all." When you are dealing with violence that detachment is the worst response you can have. Violent people only are throttled by superior force.

Posted by: Flyoverman at June 05, 2016 10:19 AM (B4xB3)

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