Hacker "Guccifer" Agrees to Plea Deal With Federal Prosecutors, Clearing Way to Cooperate In Hillary Probe

What he can testify to -- I assume, based on his past claims -- is that he hacked Hillary's easily-hacked server, thus establishing her handling of classified US top secret documents was in fact willfully negligent as the statute requires for prosecution.

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1 hey!

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:30 PM (pC96u)

2 Ho!

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:31 PM (pC96u)

3 Hillary has got to go!

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:31 PM (pC96u)

4 3
Hillary has got to go!

I want the hell bitch in prison, but I shudder at the thought of a Biden/Warren ticket.

I can see that ticket winning the election. {{shudder}}

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 06:32 PM (1ZOkK)

5 Halloo

Posted by: @votermom at May 23, 2016 06:32 PM (7lVbc)

6
But srsly, his talk so far sounds pretty unreliable. He's contradicted himself quite a bit and he says he deleted the really hot stuff.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:32 PM (pC96u)

7
New: Clinton campaign declines Fox News' interview for a debate in CA. Sanders had agreed to it.

Pussy!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 23, 2016 06:33 PM (iQIUe)

8 It is amazing how many people who run afoul of Barack Obama find themselves in last-minute legal difficulties during election years.

If she were winning, I think none of this would come to anything. But if she keeps on looking shaky, who knows?

Posted by: JPS at May 23, 2016 06:33 PM (9ziuC)

9 I've already taken care of that "Hillary probe" thingy

Posted by: Huma at May 23, 2016 06:34 PM (n9LsX)

10 As I asked once before, can you imagine the moment in the debate when Trump asks Biden "Is it true that you eat library paste?"

Posted by: mallflower at May 23, 2016 06:35 PM (qSIlh)

11
I want the hell bitch in prison, but I shudder at the thought of a Biden/Warren ticket.

I can see that ticket winning the election. {{shudder}}
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 06:32 PM (1ZOkK)
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Ugh. Tell me about it.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:35 PM (pC96u)

12 i said when they first announced his extradition that they wanted him for his testimony...

another indicator that the e-mail investigation is going places, and isn't just kabuki theater.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 23, 2016 06:35 PM (GnCxR)

13
Ooh, breaking:

Hillary refuses to debate Bernie in California.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:35 PM (pC96u)

14

Casting the net. *clap*

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 23, 2016 06:35 PM (qCMvj)

15 by the way, hasn't it become a standard rule of law that a person who pleads guilty to a crime cannot be used as a witness against a Democrat?

Posted by: mallflower at May 23, 2016 06:36 PM (qSIlh)

16

so this is all happening simultaneously

hmmm....

not too late to change nominees!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 23, 2016 06:36 PM (qCMvj)

17 Things might be looking up

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 06:37 PM (3wHFl)

18 "Ooh, breaking:

Hillary refuses to debate Bernie in California."
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missed by *that* much...

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at May 23, 2016 06:37 PM (GnCxR)

19 Er, as I understand it, just mishandling classified information alone is illegal. Intent is not required.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 06:37 PM (AkOaV)

20 when Trump asks Biden "Is it true that you eat library paste?"

Posted by: mallflower

Never ask a yes/no question.

Your accusation must include the predicate.

"Joe, what's your favorite brand of paste when you get hungry?"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2016 06:37 PM (p2X2f)

21 She was warned, in writing, not to set up the server. She ignored that, as well as the training State Dept leaders all get. She knew what she was doing was not legal, because she went to great lengths to hide it from State technology people (even going so far as to put her own person on the staff) and IG.

What more can they possibly need? Its open and shut.

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 06:38 PM (/m8T6)

22 not too late to change nominees!
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i'm ready!

Posted by: Jeb! at May 23, 2016 06:38 PM (GnCxR)

23 In other words, i think this is all kabuki. Hillary will not be charged.

If the FBI wanted to charge her, they could have charged her with violating the federal records act for keeping all correspondence off the govts servers then not turning them over when she left as SoS until specifically asked. After, of course, deleting half of the emails and printing the remaining ones.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 06:39 PM (AkOaV)

24 re 7 and 13: time to see if Sanders and Trump want to have a go-at-it. Trump will very likely get Sanders all worked up about how the whole thing was rigged in favor of crooked Hillery. Trump can also ask Sanders if he can still work it up, if you get my drift, heh heh.

Posted by: mallflower at May 23, 2016 06:39 PM (qSIlh)

25 As I asked once before, can you imagine the moment in the debate when Trump asks Biden "Is it true that you eat library paste?"
Posted by: mallflower at May 23, 2016 06:35 PM (qSIlh)

Whoa! I just about remember that slur. . .

Posted by: Plum at May 23, 2016 06:39 PM (h+OMg)

26 Er, as I understand it, just mishandling classified information alone is illegal. Intent is not required.
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yup.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 23, 2016 06:39 PM (GnCxR)

27 Underdog Crooked Hillary. That's the news of the day, summarized.

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 06:39 PM (/m8T6)

28 Hang 'em high!

I will donate funding for a suitable rope.

Posted by: Fritz at May 23, 2016 06:40 PM (f40FU)

29 All he has to testify to is how easy it was to roll Granny H's "magic toilet castle"...

game, set, match

Posted by: sven10077 at May 23, 2016 06:40 PM (g8Hfr)

30 If our son had leaked ONE e-mail, by accident, he'd be in Leavenworth now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 06:40 PM (1ZOkK)

31

Hillary says Trump is "not normal."

Hillary's crimes, business as usual. Very "normal."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 23, 2016 06:41 PM (qCMvj)

32 So, will it be health reasons or will Hillary! develop a sudden, heretofore unknown or suspected, desperate need to spend more time with the family?

Posted by: Lily, formerly of HotAir at May 23, 2016 06:41 PM (vivhj)

33 I keep trying to wrap my brain around Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton.

*seizure*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 06:41 PM (1ZOkK)

34
missed by *that* much...

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at May 23, 2016 06:37 PM (GnCxR)
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My heart was purer, though.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:41 PM (pC96u)

35 I want to see Hillary led off to prison in handcuffs but first I want to see her lose the election.

Here's a question. Would Hillary last longer in prison than Jeffrey Dahmer?

Maybe to ensure her safety, she should not be put in with the general population. Maybe she should be kept in a cage suspended from a crane over the White House lawn.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 23, 2016 06:41 PM (QHgTq)

36 willfully, how 'bout always?

Posted by: micky at May 23, 2016 06:41 PM (o5vMc)

37 30 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 06:40 PM (1ZOkK)

The list of things your son could be sanctioned for that "special people" get away with is a long one...

ask him what he thinks of Gay Service members holding hand sand swapping spit in uniform....

Heteros get written up.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 23, 2016 06:42 PM (g8Hfr)

38 Let's get to the important stuff: Is Guccifer Oriental?

Posted by: Aviator at May 23, 2016 06:42 PM (c7vUv)

39
The list of things your son could be sanctioned for that "special people" get away with is a long one...

ask him what he thinks of Gay Service members holding hand sand swapping spit in uniform....

Heteros get written up.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 23, 2016 06:42 PM (g8Hfr)

Yep.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 06:43 PM (1ZOkK)

40 the FBI tends to be thorough, and they also have an interest to chase every lead all the way down to the end, both to see where it goes, and to avoid any surprises during trial, etc.

it will also allow them to try and figure out just what all was compromised, and by who.

i keep hearing rumors that the Russian government is having an internal debate on whether or not to release all the Clinton e-mails they allegedly have.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 23, 2016 06:43 PM (GnCxR)

41 29 All he has to testify to is how easy it was to roll Granny H's "magic toilet castle"...

game, set, match
Posted by: sven10077 at May 23, 2016 06:40 PM (g8Hfr)

I don't see how it makes any difference one way or another -- from a legal perspective -- if anyone actually did hack Hillary's server.

I guess from a PR perspective, it could help. But the media is not going to throw Hillary under the bus. Not this far in to the campaign. And why is the FBI worrying about PR?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 06:43 PM (AkOaV)

42

I want the hell bitch in prison, but I shudder at the thought of a Biden/Warren ticket.

I can see that ticket winning the election. {{shudder}}
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 06:32 PM (1ZOkK)

You spoke my fears. I honestly believe this has been the plan all along with the white house. JEG hates the Clintons with a passion, and this is his grand nose-thumb to her and Bill. And the deal that Biden probably worked out when he agreed to be the VP. If he picked Jim Webb, I could countenance the ticket, but with Fauxcohontas, I am physically sick that she would be anywhere near the White House.

Posted by: Moki at May 23, 2016 06:43 PM (ezHMO)

43 "31

Hillary says Trump is "not normal."

Hillary's crimes, business as usual. Very "normal."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 23, 2016 06:41 PM (qCMvj)"

All the normal people were weeded out of the process very early in this election cycle.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 23, 2016 06:44 PM (QHgTq)

44 >>I've already taken care of that "Hillary probe" thingy
Posted by: Huma

Hey can I get my Sawzall back now?

Posted by: Huma's Handyman at May 23, 2016 06:44 PM (c7vUv)

45 i keep hearing rumors that the Russian government is having an internal debate on whether or not to release all the Clinton e-mails they allegedly have.
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obviously they have them, but I hope they stay out of this.

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 06:44 PM (/m8T6)

46 Guccifer can testify about his hacking which is evidence that Hillary was sharing intel with Sid Vicious, someone who was not authorized and who, in point of fact, the Obamans expressly didn't want anywhere near State. There's a few crimes right there.

Guccifer's testimony will also show that not all the relevant e-mails got turned over to State, as Guccifer had at least a few that weren't.

Wild card is what other e-mails Guccifer may have, and what else gets found if you sniff around the many dirt mounds in Sid's back yard.

I'd be surprised if the FBI hadn't already talked to Guccifer.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 23, 2016 06:44 PM (r1fLd)

47
Here's a question. Would Hillary last longer in prison than Jeffrey Dahmer?

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She'd go to that place where Leona and Martha went. But she just might self-combust with rage.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:45 PM (pC96u)

48 Didn't Bob Guccifer publish "Penthouse" back in the day before he shot Larry Flint?

Let's hope Hillary ends up in an orange jumpsuit and tossing some Shot Caller's salad when she's not doing her laundry.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 23, 2016 06:45 PM (ej1L0)

49 I want the hell bitch in prison, but I shudder at the thought of a Biden/Warren ticket.

I can see that ticket winning the election. {{shudder}}
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 06:32 PM (1ZOkK)

maybe but I doubt it...bring down fat ass, means bringing down her cronies also, which is half the democratic party.
Trump will eat that shit up and slam them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 06:45 PM (V/InG)

50 41 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 06:43 PM (AkOaV)

The Ghost of Johnny Cochran would emit "If her Toilet Server Didn't Shit You Must Acquit!"

Guccifer shows her toilet server did in fact shit.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 23, 2016 06:45 PM (g8Hfr)

51
Let's get to the important stuff: Is Guccifer Oriental?
Posted by: Aviator

Cardassian

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 06:46 PM (k4M/B)

52
i keep hearing rumors that the Russian government is having an internal debate on whether or not to release all the Clinton e-mails they allegedly have.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 23, 2016 06:43 PM (GnCxR)
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I can't imagine why they would release those things, whether before or after the election.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:46 PM (pC96u)

53 Can Hillary hold on until the DNC Convention July 28? A lot of shots across the bow recently, and with no real chance at Dem unity between now and then, her poll numbers will only worsen.

Trump better fire up the nickname generator for Uncle Joe. Looks increasingly like he will be selected at the last minute to run in Hillary's place.

Posted by: ZBBMcFate at May 23, 2016 06:47 PM (k7D+q)

54 The Ghost of Johnny Cochran would emit "If her Toilet Server Didn't Shit You Must Acquit!"

Guccifer shows her toilet server did in fact shit.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 23, 2016 06:45 PM (g8Hfr)

heh. Well I do love the visual AND the analogy, so... ::golf clap::

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 06:47 PM (AkOaV)

55 I would not underestimate the effect of all of a sudden the effective presidential nominee is under a indictment and drops out the effect that will have on the Democrat voters.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 06:47 PM (3wHFl)

56 Did he save any of her emails?

Posted by: ThunderB at May 23, 2016 06:47 PM (zOTsN)

57 56
Did he save any of her emails?

Posted by: ThunderB at May 23, 2016 06:47 PM (zOTsN)

I believe he said he printed them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 06:48 PM (1ZOkK)

58 Orange is the new pantsuit.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 06:48 PM (1ijHg)

59
maybe but I doubt it...bring down fat ass, means bringing down her cronies also, which is half the democratic party.
Trump will eat that shit up and slam them
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 06:45 PM (V/InG)
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That's one way of looking at it. Another is that this is an election about personalities, not issues.

The best way to win would be for Trump to convince that America would continue to LUUUUZE with Biden/Warren.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:48 PM (pC96u)

60 I wouldn't admit keeping any of her emails until I got immunity either

Posted by: ThunderB at May 23, 2016 06:48 PM (zOTsN)

61 I would say the Russians would not bring out her emails, what a fantastic blackmail card to play when they really need it.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 06:49 PM (3wHFl)

62 Since Webb Hubbell, Hillary has always refused probes.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 06:49 PM (1ijHg)

63 "What more can they possibly need? Its open and shut."

Pagliano is probably the more important witness, as he can establish Hillary's specific intent, so that she can't just say that the server got set up without her knowing much about it.

FBI can prove a lot without a live witness, but it's always important in white collar cases to have a witness from the inside.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 23, 2016 06:50 PM (r1fLd)

64
The best way to win would be for Trump to convince that America would continue to LUUUUZE with Biden/Warren.

Joe Biden's been in Washington since I was in kindergarten. Can anyone give me ONE thing he's achieved in all that time?

Posted by: Herpes at May 23, 2016 06:50 PM (uyrlv)

65 Bernie raised $27 million in April, $2 million more than the Hellbitch. She managed not to spend anywhere near as much money though as the Sanders campaign and ended the month with more cash on hand. Bernie is giving it all he's got.

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 06:50 PM (/m8T6)

66
Did he save any of her emails?
Posted by: ThunderB at May 23, 2016 06:47 PM (zOTsN)
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He says they're in Guccifer archives in (I think) the Google cloud.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:50 PM (pC96u)

67 Ooh, breaking:

Hillary refuses to debate Bernie in California.

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!!!!!!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016 Barking For Us at May 23, 2016 06:51 PM (8ZskC)

68 64 Posted by: Herpes at May 23, 2016 06:50 PM (uyrlv)

I have more hair and better teeth than I did in 1986 prole...

//Scranton Joey Plugz

Posted by: sven10077 at May 23, 2016 06:51 PM (g8Hfr)

69 Please... Dont call them hackers. They are freelance code modification specialists.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 23, 2016 06:51 PM (JmjOe)

70 My reading reports of Guccifer was he read a few but thought they were all political emails and didn't see much to interest him. But I get he knows of others who did read more of her emails.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 06:51 PM (3wHFl)

71 Here's a question. Would Hillary last longer in prison than Jeffrey Dahmer?

Boss Dyke would be running the place within two weeks.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 23, 2016 06:52 PM (YFFpo)

72
I would not underestimate the effect of all of a sudden the effective presidential nominee is under a indictment and drops out the effect that will have on the Democrat voters.
Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 06:47 PM (3wHFl)
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This is true. It would take a lot of spinning to convince Joan Walsh and her ilk that Biden deserves it and Hillary doesn't.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:52 PM (pC96u)

73 >>Let's get to the important stuff: Is Guccifer Oriental?
Posted by: Aviator

Cardassian
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

He's part of that family with the big assed women and the tranny?

Posted by: Aviator at May 23, 2016 06:52 PM (c7vUv)

74 if Hillery does get indicted or if it looks like things are headed that way, she drops out, the Obama mob gets to pick the candidate, and Obama gives Hillery a blanket pardon. We'll have the pleasure of seeing her dreams busted down to dirt but she'll never see a moment in a court, much less a prison.

Posted by: mallflower at May 23, 2016 06:52 PM (qSIlh)

75 He also copied and saved Blumenthal's Inbox (including attachments), so he also may have proof Hillary intentionally shared highly classified docs w/someone not read in on them. IIRC, Blumenthal emailed *her* classified docs (the kind where only a handful of people are read in), too.

Posted by: Mother Nature at May 23, 2016 06:52 PM (NOIQH)

76 I wonder if the FBI has reconstructed all of Hillary's deleted "yoga" emails. You know, the ones where the Saudis agree to giver her $25 million and she agreed to let them buy weapons. Those yoga emails.

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 06:52 PM (/m8T6)

77 71,

Isn't that the plot of Chicago (the musical)?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 23, 2016 06:53 PM (C9pBZ)

78
Did he save any of her emails?
Posted by: ThunderB
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He says they're in Guccifer archives in (I think) the Google cloud.
Posted by: iforgot

Couldn't Hillary get some of her GoogleBuddies to get into the cloud and zap them?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 06:53 PM (k4M/B)

79
Trump better fire up the nickname generator for Uncle Joe. Looks increasingly like he will be selected at the last minute to run in Hillary's place.

If they give it to Biden instead of Sanders all hell will break lose at the convention

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 23, 2016 06:53 PM (lKyWE)

80
btw, a little kraut is kleiner in German.

Well, kleiner Deutsche. Kleiner is the German word for "little, small."

We all remember back in 1984 when VW came out with GTI version of the Rabbit. It was a neat little ride. VW's tv ad was a clever little riff on the '60's song "Little GTO."

Kleiner GTI:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zcm4oS9IaM

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 06:53 PM (/7JDl)

81 I wouldn't admit keeping any of her emails until I got immunity either

Apparently Guccifer isn't getting immunity at all. He's pleading guilty, probably in exchange for a recommendation of leniency by the DOJ. The judge doesn't have to go along with the recommendation though, so there's still some risk for him.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2016 06:53 PM (8ZskC)

82
My reading reports of Guccifer was he read a few but thought they were all political emails and didn't see much to interest him. But I get he knows of others who did read more of her emails.
Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 06:51 PM (3wHFl)
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He's a very unreliable interview subject. He's also said he archived everything but deleted some of it because it was too hot. He also said he used to "read Hillary's emails for six hours and then go do his gardening."

We'll just have to see with this guy. A lot of people in the field say hackers tend to be fabulists.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:53 PM (pC96u)

83 74 Posted by: mallflower at May 23, 2016 06:52 PM (qSIlh)

Ok but since Bronk would be doing it like Ford to "heal the country" I am going to take a ball bat to the next Donk who invokes Nixon for anything...

Posted by: sven10077 at May 23, 2016 06:53 PM (g8Hfr)

84 Shit! I am a Conservative. But I am tempted to send Bernie $10.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 06:53 PM (1ijHg)

85 re 64: Biden has a very impressive record of not knowing what he's talking about.

Posted by: mallflower at May 23, 2016 06:53 PM (qSIlh)

86 Rush had a thing today about Clinton Cash. I'm amazed that the book has been out a year and is only now getting attention.

Rush says that Hillary's speaking fees alone will kill her as she collected $22 million from banks and hedge funds. That's fees to Hillary -- not to Bill and not donations to the Foundation. Bernie should have hit her hard on this.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 23, 2016 06:54 PM (r1fLd)

87
Couldn't Hillary get some of her GoogleBuddies to get into the cloud and zap them?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 06:53 PM (k4M/B)
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I wouldn't put it past any of them, but they might be quaking a bit at the eerie proximity of the FBI to the actual facts.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:55 PM (pC96u)

88 I would just love Trmp to nickname Biden "Paste Eating Joe".

Posted by: fixerupper at May 23, 2016 06:56 PM (JmjOe)

89 It's either Hillary or Bernie. If you think the Bernie nuts are going to lose their shit at being ripped off by Hillary, they would be that on steroids if they gave it to Crazy Uncle Joe.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 23, 2016 06:57 PM (/tuJf)

90 Bernie is playing soft-ball. Maybe he plans to run again in 2020.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 06:57 PM (1ijHg)

91
I wonder if the FBI has reconstructed all of Hillary's deleted "yoga" emails. You know, the ones where the Saudis agree to giver her $25 million and she agreed to let them buy weapons. Those yoga emails.
Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 06:52 PM (/m8T6)
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Word is, they did. A lone tweet from Catherine Herridge back in March or April.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:57 PM (pC96u)

92
Couldn't Hillary get some of her GoogleBuddies to get into the cloud and zap them? Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 06:53 PM (k4M/B)

That would be a felony

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 23, 2016 06:57 PM (lKyWE)

93 See, I was right. There hasn't been Hillary leaks, and now stuff is coming out again. National holiday coming up, Friday news dump anyone?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 23, 2016 06:58 PM (6Ll1u)

94 Pretty sure clinton camp will finally nab the guy who pinned hillary to a broken coffee table and forced her to set up an illegal server in the phi psi bathroom against her will. Haven. Monahan.

Posted by: mst3k at May 23, 2016 06:58 PM (lvgAl)

95 Rush says that Hillary's speaking fees alone will kill her as she collected $22 million from banks and hedge funds. That's fees to Hillary -- not to Bill and not donations to the Foundation. Bernie should have hit her hard on this.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 23, 2016 06:54 PM (r1fLd)

Even Conan O'Brien had a joke this past week: "Hilary Clinton decried Donald Trump's 'country club lifestyle' - at a fundraiser where none of you could ever hope to afford."

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 06:58 PM (7qAYi)

96
btw, a little kraut is kleiner in German.
Well, kleiner Deutsche.

A little German...

https://youtu.be/L0lJyDCLYTE

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 06:58 PM (k4M/B)

97
I wish I could speak German. Learning Spanish is more practical, but German is such a more fun language.

Plus, German is very English-like so some of the words are no-brainers. Like dummkopf and wunderbar and luft (air).

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 06:58 PM (/7JDl)

98 I have zero faith that anything will happen to Hillary!. Oh, voters might barely keep her out of office out of disgust, but legal convictions of any sort aren't happening. Some people are more equal than others, and those most equal will just walk away with their personal connections and public money.

If there's an indictment, it'll only be the one on our Justice system.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 23, 2016 06:59 PM (1CroS)

99 87 they might be quaking a bit at the eerie proximity of the FBI to the actual facts.
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That's great phrasing. I am so totally stealing that.

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 06:59 PM (/m8T6)

100 The gti was out pretty much everywhere before the states. Heck, you could buy one in Canada by 79...

But yeah, fun ad.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 23, 2016 06:59 PM (C9pBZ)

101
Pagliano is probably the more important witness, as he can establish Hillary's specific intent, so that she can't just say that the server got set up without her knowing much about it.

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I bet she'll say she mentioned wanting a more "convenient" setup at a meeting, and Bryan completely misunderstood her if he thought she meant he should do anything illegal. Huma et. al. will support that version.

That's one way I see her getting out of it, but we shall see.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:59 PM (pC96u)

102 Are you, you ready for the choo choo?

Biden 2016

Didn't have to waste any time in the primaries. Suck it Hillary

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 23, 2016 06:59 PM (12kBq)

103
That's great phrasing. I am so totally stealing that.
Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 06:59 PM (/m8T6)
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hee hee, be my guest.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 06:59 PM (pC96u)

104
A little German...

https://youtu.be/L0lJyDCLYTE

Classic.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 07:01 PM (/7JDl)

105 Ugh, there's two words that do not go well together: Hillary and probe

Posted by: FaCubeItches at May 23, 2016 07:01 PM (rznWS)

106 At some point the Democrats, media and Obama are going to throw a hissy fit about partisan Republicans, quote Bernie saying "I don't care about your damn e-mails!", and gin up the "It's time to just move on" meme.

Way too much Clinton, MacCauliffe, etc. persecution. Has to be Rethuglican agitators, right? They've been trying to find something on Hilary for years and still have nothing. Just stop it. Stop it now.

**Foot stamp**

Posted by: RM at May 23, 2016 07:03 PM (U3LtS)

107
if Hillery does get indicted or if it looks like things are headed that way, she drops out, the Obama mob gets to pick the candidate, and Obama gives Hillery a blanket pardon. We'll have the pleasure of seeing her dreams busted down to dirt but she'll never see a moment in a court, much less a prison.
Posted by: mallflower at May 23, 2016 06:52 PM (qSIlh)
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That's how I see it playing out right about now.

Or maybe Obama will be a total douche if Biden wins and leave it to him to pardon her.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 07:03 PM (pC96u)

108 The Lucifer wears Gucci.

Posted by: Lauren Schwartzburger at May 23, 2016 07:03 PM (v9E/c)

109 When was the last time we had a Burning Skeleton Head?

Posted by: Weasel at May 23, 2016 07:03 PM (e3bId)

110 I think the only way they can get rid of Hillary! s either post-convention,

then they could go with the Veep to Prez move(since obama will probably determine the VP. He gets his guy in.)

or-

Post-election before January- a riskier move.

But, pre-convention, since Sanders is the only other Dim competing, that would be a tough switcheroo since it would totally alienate the Sanders voters.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 23, 2016 07:05 PM (oU3Bb)

111
People who live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan are called Yoopers. Is that offensive to anyone?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 07:05 PM (/7JDl)

112 Ace should get to work on a burning Hillary skull just in case.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 23, 2016 07:06 PM (6Ll1u)

113 Ka Boo Key. FBI will conclude its investigation with, "Nothing to see here". October surprise.

Posted by: Javems at May 23, 2016 07:06 PM (yOqwj)

114
The thing that gets me about all this Judicial Watch and FBI stuff is that NO ONE in Hillaryland seems to be a bit bothered by it. They presumably know what Pagliano knows -- not necessarily what he said, but definitely what he knows. Same for Lewis Lukens.

So why are they all walking around looking normal? They should look sleepless and have adult diapers bulging over their waistbands.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 07:06 PM (pC96u)

115 Are the FBI looking for a one-armed woman too?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: michelle fields at May 23, 2016 07:06 PM (PLnZs)

116 How about real live Louisiana coon ass's.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 23, 2016 07:07 PM (JmjOe)

117
When was the last time we had a Burning Skeleton Head?
Posted by: Weasel at May 23, 2016 07:03 PM (e3bId)
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A while. Ace decided to give it up since so many felonies were erupting from the White House with no consequences that the burning skull was losing its meaning.

For a Hillary indictment, however . . .

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 07:08 PM (pC96u)

118 Not that it would happen, but what would happen if Hilary (or any other nominee) had to drop out of the race after they got the official nomination? Would the other party run unopposed?

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 07:08 PM (7qAYi)

119 Burning Hillary skull? Boring.
I want a burning Hoveround

Posted by: wooga at May 23, 2016 07:08 PM (EsA7u)

120 Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 07:06 PM (pC96u)

Perhaps 30 years of getting away with it?

Posted by: Golfman at May 23, 2016 07:08 PM (48QDY)

121
But, pre-convention, since Sanders is the only other Dim competing, that would be a tough switcheroo since it would totally alienate the Sanders voters.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 23, 2016 07:05 PM (oU3Bb)
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If they got Warren as Biden's arm-candy they'd be satisfied.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 07:09 PM (pC96u)

122 Scandals like this don't need a burning skull.

Nah, Hitlery needs a graphic with a wrecked walker, broken down amidst scattered bottles of Geritol, Val U Rite and puddles of bitter, angry tears.

And a pair of striped socks and witchy, ugly shoes sticking out from under a house.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 23, 2016 07:09 PM (McRlu)

123
Perhaps 30 years of getting away with it?
Posted by: Golfman at May 23, 2016 07:08 PM (48QDY)
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True . . .

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 07:09 PM (pC96u)

124 Plus, German is very English-like so some of the words are no-brainers
But I wonder what bitte, bitte means?

Posted by: g.i. who just shot a german trying to surrender at May 23, 2016 07:09 PM (PLnZs)

125 Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 07:09 PM (pC96u)

Something about some guy named Icarus.

Posted by: Golfman at May 23, 2016 07:10 PM (48QDY)

126 OT (bathroom wars)
So if women/girls don't have a right to privacy anymore, was Roe wrongly decided?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at May 23, 2016 07:10 PM (Xhvpw)

127
Not that it would happen, but what would happen if Hilary (or any other nominee) had to drop out of the race after they got the official nomination? Would the other party run unopposed?
Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 07:08 PM (7qAYi)
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Ooh, these questions are fun.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 07:10 PM (pC96u)

128 On the Biden ticket as a fallback: the Democrats' media machine certainly is putting in the effort to keep Joey Choo-Choo positioned in the public eye.

I was gobsmacked when someone said that Biden is featured on the cover of the new _Popular Mechanics_. As a proud father. Doing the familial male bonding routine. With his son.

The son would be Hunter Biden. The one who had strings pulled to get him a naval officer accession opportunity despite his advanced age, and who popped positive for drug use on his very first pee test in the Navy just a few days later, and was thrown out on his ear.

Man, the _PM_ articles on Hunter just write themselves. "Create your own improvised cocaine paraphernalia from common household items!"

Posted by: torquewrench at May 23, 2016 07:12 PM (noWW6)

129 Plus, German is very English-like so some of the words are no-brainers
But I wonder what bitte, bitte means?
Posted by: g.i. who just shot a german trying to surrender at May 23, 2016 07:09 PM (PLnZs)

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I dunno.... But he thought you were some guy named Nick Shesan.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 23, 2016 07:12 PM (JmjOe)

130
Plus, German is very English-like so some of the words are no-brainers

Bustenhalter

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 23, 2016 07:13 PM (lKyWE)

131 98 --- I have zero faith that anything will happen to Hillary!. Oh, voters might barely keep her out of office out of disgust, but legal convictions of any sort aren't happening. Some people are more equal than others....

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 23, 2016 06:59 PM
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Actually, losing the WH would be a fate worse than death for her. It's all she has and all she ever has had, that burning desire to be the Historic!!!First!!!, that lust for power.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 23, 2016 07:13 PM (T/5A0)

132 126 OT (bathroom wars)
So if women/girls don't have a right to privacy anymore, was Roe wrongly decided?
Posted by: Tonic Dog at May 23, 2016 07:10 PM (Xhvpw

Local pol said today bathrooms haven't been an issue.

Locker/shower rooms deserve so ecial accommodation.

Settled.

Posted by: Golfman at May 23, 2016 07:13 PM (48QDY)

133 104
A little German...

https://youtu.be/L0lJyDCLYTE

Classic.
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Also from "Top Secret" is a fun trap shooting scene.

http://tinyurl.com/z4bd6wf

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 07:14 PM (/m8T6)

134 Golfman: "Perhaps 30 years of getting away with it?"

Exactly.

The MFM has manufactured a protective shell around Team Clinton and reinforced it for decades. Now all Hillary! has to say is "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" and the Praetorian Guard of a Press gets to work.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 23, 2016 07:14 PM (1CroS)

135
Speak = sprechen.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 07:14 PM (/7JDl)

136 Plus, German is very English-like so some of the words are no-brainers

Bustenhalter

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 23, 2016 07:13 PM
Pics or it didn't happen

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 23, 2016 07:15 PM (IJBEN)

137 Willingful Negligence

or

Willingful Negligee?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton's Yoga Pants at May 23, 2016 07:15 PM (aoFFB)

138 134 Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 23, 2016 07:14 PM (1CroS)

The new newsies love Bronk more than Grammy...

this is a game of Axis and Allies or Risk not checkers...

the Obama wing is trying to co-opt Clinton Inc.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 23, 2016 07:16 PM (g8Hfr)

139 *special. Ugh

Posted by: Golfman at May 23, 2016 07:16 PM (48QDY)

140 Does BHO somehow get 4 more? Some October will he be the Republic's only hope? Will a fearful nation turn to him, implore him, to see us through this crisis?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 23, 2016 07:16 PM (OjM0b)

141 "Joe Biden's been in Washington since I was in kindergarten. Can anyone give me ONE thing he's achieved in all that time?"

As I like to point out to liberal friends and acquaintances who loathe Clarence Thomas, Biden was running the Judiciary Committee at the time, and Biden said that he "could have sunk [Thomas] with the sex stuff," but decided to let the nomination proceed to the floor vote.

That is *always* good for inducing indignant splutters.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 23, 2016 07:16 PM (noWW6)

142 Soros bought out Judicial Watch years ago. They only go after his enemies now.

1/2 /sarc

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 07:17 PM (1ijHg)

143
losing the WH would be a fate worse than death for her. It's all she has and all she ever has had, that burning desire to be the Historic!!!First!!!, that lust for power.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 23, 2016 07:13 PM (T/5A0)
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Just to think of Citizen Clinton having to live like the rest of us mortals instead of running our lives, getting up in the morning in her frigid wing in Chappaqua instead of the White House, reading about politics in the paper instead of living politics in D.C., seeing money lying around waiting to be picked up by some crook other than herself -- I'll take that.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 07:18 PM (pC96u)

144 O/T

Anyone besides me think there was voter fraud in Austria?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 07:19 PM (1ijHg)

145
I forgot how many funny movies Val Kilmer had made.

There's..
Top Secret
The one where's he a genius.

I guess that's it.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 07:19 PM (/7JDl)

146 Actually, losing the WH would be a fate worse than death for her. It's all she has and all she ever has had, that burning desire to be the Historic!!!First!!!, that lust for power.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 23, 2016 07:13 PM (T/5A0)

Yup....Bernie better make sure the convention is safe and that Major Hillary Shaw hasn't just bought a Arisaka Type 99 Type 2 paratrooper rifle.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 23, 2016 07:19 PM (ej1L0)

147 nood.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 07:20 PM (1ijHg)

148 You want to know why nothing is gonna happen to Skankles? Because her 'private' email server is the same set up every other politician has. No one is gonna prosecute her and open the door for their own prosecution.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 23, 2016 07:20 PM (QDVFm)

149 Margarita DeVille: "Actually, losing the WH would be a fate worse than death for her. It's all she has and all she ever has had, that burning desire to be the Historic!!!First!!!, that lust for power."

I used to think that and it would surely sting, but I've come to the conclusion that it is really the quest for money that drives her. Sending her to the poor house without providing avenues for recouping money would be her living hell.

It's be heavenly to see her experience the loss of both.

The first cure for cancer is ridding the flesh of tumor. The Body Politic desperately needs a righteous surgeon.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 23, 2016 07:20 PM (1CroS)

150
nood serious post

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 07:20 PM (/7JDl)

151 Bustenhalter
---
Menschenssiere!!!

Posted by: frank costanza at May 23, 2016 07:21 PM (PLnZs)

152 Anyone else notice how many Trump ads have that horrid bitch cackling?

I think they are on to something. I think they can get an entire country to cringe at the sound of the cackle. And, it has the added advantage of making her need to be even stiffer in public because she will start to dread that every single chuckle can be recorded and used against her.

Seems to me that ordinary people that want to run a little guerrilla action could start attaching her cackle to their own brands of insults. One never knows which themes can go viral. **cackle.**

Posted by: jc at May 23, 2016 07:23 PM (iRJ+A)

153 I want to know how many of Hillary's emails reveal her weakness for celebrity titties. The old hag practically drools on herself when the chest kittens-of-the-day are within her arthritic, claw-like granny grasp.

Posted by: Fritz at May 23, 2016 07:24 PM (f40FU)

154 Posted by: jc at May 23, 2016 07:23 PM (iRJ+A)

Sorta like the *hic?

Posted by: Golfman at May 23, 2016 07:24 PM (48QDY)

155 >>> I have zero faith that anything will happen to Hillary!.

These abortive fits and starts are meant to reassure voters that government is successfully policing itself. Heh.

Posted by: angela urkel at May 23, 2016 07:27 PM (v9E/c)

156 Which hills to die on?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the RNC just sent out a push poll that includes a Republican Threat section where voters are asked: "Which elements of the radical Republican agenda are most dangerous to America's future" (pick any three)

1. Dismantling the Affordable Care Act
2. Restricting women's reproductive rights
3. Reversing marriage equality and other LGBT civil rights
4. Opposing a minimum wage increase
5. Gutting Social Security and Medicare
6. Packing SCOTUS with far right idealogues
7. Obstructing comprehensive immigration reform
8. Denying the existence of climate change
9. Refusing to handle international affairs diplomatically

Debbie left out Trade, unless she's covering it with #9, because it's become a loser for Dems.

This presents a road map for our priorities, folks. We can't have it all -- running on all the issues is a killer for R Presidential candidates. Plus we want mandates on key issues so strong that even Ryan and McConnell will understand.

#1 Trump is for, but you can't let people die in the streets.
#2 Soft peddle.
#3 Soft peddle.
#4 Trump isn't against a small increase.
#5. Stay away from. Death right now.
#6 Trump has already picked his SCOTUS list.
#7 Build the Wall. Reverse Obama's EOs. Start enforcing the law
#8 Looks like Trump is about to go strong on denying climate change. This is a hill to die on as it's necessary to reverse the EPA, and to blow up academia.
#9 Trump will put America and Americans first.

I agree with these priorities. You might not. But that's why I'm a Trumpster. Also because he has Mad Media Skillz and might well get a lot done on these priorities.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 23, 2016 07:27 PM (r1fLd)

157 134
Golfman: "Perhaps 30 years of getting away with it?"

Exactly.

The MFM has manufactured a protective shell around Team Clinton and
reinforced it for decades. Now all Hillary! has to say is "Vast
Right-Wing Conspiracy" and the Praetorian Guard of a Press gets to work.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 23, 2016 07:14 PM (1CroS)

====yeah, but ....
I can't remember which one, but either Woodward or Bernstein already said on one of the leftwing TV channels that the vast RWC did not set up her server.

Posted by: jc at May 23, 2016 07:28 PM (iRJ+A)

158 does it matter that he hacked her in 2013 (he apparently said this in earlier interviews).... which is after she left her post as Madame Sec'y?

Posted by: jb at May 23, 2016 07:30 PM (E8tD/)

159 Convicted Hillary exists in the same dimension as Caitlyn's ovaries.

Posted by: angela urkel at May 23, 2016 07:30 PM (v9E/c)

160 114: So why are they all walking around looking normal?
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Part of it is that they are unusually good liars.

Four of them also retain the same lawyer. This is normally a conflict of interest, but DOJ is allowing it. It tells you that they're coordinating their defense and have some pact not to turn on each other. It also suggests that DOJ has no intent of prosecuting.

https://tinyurl.com/cozy-legal-arrangement

Posted by: therealobladioblada at May 23, 2016 07:30 PM (WVxCU)

161 jc,

It was Woodward. I think at this point, he's the token fossil of The Guard no one listens to anymore. He's no longer "hip" and the New Media doesn't need or heed his Narrative... unless it mimics their own.

Hillary! still only needs to chant the words and the MFM will carry the tune as soon as Sanders burns out if not before. It's a reflex.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 23, 2016 07:34 PM (1CroS)

162 "So why are they all walking around looking normal? They should look sleepless and have adult diapers bulging over their waistbands."

Watch the movie Downfall (2004), if you haven't already. Last days in Hitler's bunker. People mostly acted calm, Hitler mostly too.

Cheryl and Huma go way back with the Clintons. They can only think that this will pass.

The FBI could have worked this less than they have, but who knows.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 23, 2016 07:36 PM (r1fLd)

163 I've got a chicken casserole in the oven.

Son is over.

Husband is home.

Marine buddy and his girlfriend are downtown checking out bars for her to tend while attending local university.

And I'm having the worst hot flash in the history of the earth.

Your ageist fucking comments will not be appreciated.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 07:38 PM (1ZOkK)

164 "... the guy who pinned hillary to a broken coffee table..."

I'd sure like to be that guy! Assuming of course that I enjoyed her "safely", using a Caterpillar D9 condom.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 23, 2016 07:39 PM (LeUrG)

165 If he did hack the server he may have all of the Hillaqry destroyed emails

Posted by: Dave Willmore at May 23, 2016 07:40 PM (D7R4y)

166 "...Hillary's easily-hacked server,..."
When the password is Billsadick yeah it is.

Posted by: harleycowboy at May 23, 2016 07:42 PM (+9AX9)

167
Full disclosure: Steven Crowder is one of those "everyone sucks, both Democrats and Republicans" libertarians. Adam Corolla plays this character, too.

I agree, in general, but mine and Crowders reasons on why both parties suck are different. You know what I mean.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:34 PM (/7JDl)

168 Hillary is now obviously seeking a ...

PARDON ME !!!

Posted by: Albert Camus at May 24, 2016 12:33 AM (e8kgV)

169 I am beginning to think that the Obama kangaroo court in the DOJ will indict her. She is such a weak candidate she is bound to lose; therefore, they will pull in someone they think will win.

Posted by: PJ at May 24, 2016 01:07 AM (cHuNI)

170 Guciffer,
He owes me money.

Posted by: Edward Snowden at May 24, 2016 01:39 AM (b531m)

171 Did anybody hear that Russia might release 20,000 of Clinton's emails?

(Wouldn't that show a breach caused by Clinton's malfeasance or incompetence (take your pick)?)

Posted by: Axeman at May 24, 2016 09:07 AM (2mC6G)

172 I don't trust Whitey Bulger's gang..

Posted by: burt at May 24, 2016 10:59 AM (r1CBK)

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