Overnight Open Thread (7 May 2016)

I hope y'all are ready for Mother's Day tomorrow.

Top 10 Mothers ranked.

War Poems

I might have to get this. Powerful true-war stories told in 6-word poems.

"What's the forecast today? Steel Rain."

Too Many Generals

And I thought we were top heavy in the ranks. Venezuela has more than 4,000 generals.

PC vs Safety

The safety of your fellow citizens is secondary to the mere chance of offending someone. Oakland PD cancels Cinco de Mayo DUI checkpoints to avoid offending anyone. Why not on St. Patrick's Day too? Surely there are some Irish in Oakland that could be offended by a DUI checkpoint.

Dead Pool

DeadPool Gag Reel by Magnificent17

Mission Creep

Pentagon reveals US forces back in Yemen.

Strange Subcultures & Stuff

What it's like to have sex as a 'furry'. I'm sure they'll be demanding bathrooms of their choice too.

In other strange news, China bans 'erotic' banana-eating live streams.
h/t

Anyone game for KFC flavored edible nail polish?

Survival Tips

Pipeline

You know, I think I can sell this as a way to reduce DUIs. Brewery builds a pipeline, sending beer lovers into a froth. I wonder what the over/under for an unauthorized tap is?

West Point Controversy

Black female West Point cadets investigated for 'Black Lives Matter'-like raised fist salute. I suspect nothing will come of this. It is too easy to explain away the raised fist and unless there is something else besides the photo, perhaps Yik-Yak conversations, then that's that.

Kitteh Comet

Why astronomers named this comet after a cat.

Cat Video

Tonight's ONT brought to you by the new smart gun:

Top cat pic via.

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Comments

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1 Woot woot ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 07, 2016 09:54 PM (voOPb)

2 Aloha! And welcome to the enchanted ONT.....

Posted by: new Swede at May 07, 2016 09:55 PM (EzgxV)

3 Good night horde

Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2016 09:55 PM (3wHFl)

4 So where is everyone?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 07, 2016 09:56 PM (voOPb)

5 Warmer weather means folks are out and about.

Posted by: CDR M at May 07, 2016 09:56 PM (McoS+)

6 The survival tips thing is pretty zen.

Posted by: joncelli, Sleepless in Reading at May 07, 2016 09:56 PM (1FhAQ)

7 I'll read it in the morning, which for me might be in the 4 o'clock hour.

Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2016 09:56 PM (3wHFl)

8 YAY ONT

Now to read.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 07, 2016 09:57 PM (wYRTH)

9 Warmer weather hell, it's the ONT baby

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 07, 2016 09:57 PM (voOPb)

10 Beer pipeline? Beer pipeline?

At last, a third faucet on the kitchen sink. The "inexhaustible beer tap" faucet. 200 years from now, people will be amazed that it took this long for us to figure this out.

Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 09:58 PM (iMxBJ)

11 MH: How many walleyes?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 07, 2016 09:59 PM (ucDmr)

12 Gorgeous day here in KC. Royals finally win one.. hope that losing streak is OVER! Bought more plants, got them all potted. Playing in the dirt is my therapy. The columbine is in full bloom in my garden. It looks spectacular! This is my favorite time of year before it gets too hot and miserable.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 07, 2016 10:00 PM (CNHr1)

13 Cat in a pup tent.

I sense trouble.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 07, 2016 10:01 PM (gyKtp)

14 Chavez 1 walleye 12 crappie

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 07, 2016 10:03 PM (voOPb)

15 Vy everyone ask to speak this "bikini team?" I tell them, vere is no sudge team, und vey do not leesten.

Posted by: "Dial A Swede" Hotline Operator at May 07, 2016 10:03 PM (iMxBJ)

16 I have a quick moral lesson.
This week wanted to buy something on ebay I wanted a long time. Hadn't done it for years so got a ebay gift card to pay for it. Figured out how to get the card into it but seller wanted paypal and there it kept getting snagged. On a balance due of $0.00 paypal kept circling me it needed all my bank account numbers. ( not on the coldest day in hell) redoubled paypal account, waited overnight, got emails everything is good tried again same circle. On a whim though forget the gift card, blew right through didn't have a chance to stop it.
So the moral is don't use a ebay gift card on ebay if you have to go through PayPal.

Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2016 10:04 PM (3wHFl)

17 Islamic terrorists are coming? Let's surrender!

Posted by: The Western World at May 07, 2016 10:04 PM (Ntwfo)

18 14: MH good eatin right there.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 07, 2016 10:04 PM (ucDmr)

19 Maybe Jeb! would be the nominee if we had more Generals.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 07, 2016 10:06 PM (k4M/B)

20 17 Islamic terrorists are coming? Let's surrender!
Posted by: The Western World at May 07, 2016 10:04 PM (Ntwfo)

Barack, you are the most wonderful man I have ever known. Your intellect towers over the puny people of our time. But you can't go around calling yourself "The Western World."

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at May 07, 2016 10:07 PM (iMxBJ)

21 That ticklish kitty is absolutely precious. Too cute; I would be tickling him all the time just for the reaction

Posted by: IC at May 07, 2016 10:07 PM (zK6nG)

22 Hola all.

At work, which is where you'll always find me on a Saturday night, yet another reason why I need to get out of here.

Posted by: Blano at May 07, 2016 10:07 PM (sdPF/)

23 Those survival tips are *seared* into my memory.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 07, 2016 10:08 PM (gyKtp)

24 5-million bees stolen in Quebec. Honey-trap nets thieves:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jb48pz8

Posted by: andycanuck at May 07, 2016 10:08 PM (Ntwfo)

25 BTW, #17 is a war story in six words.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 07, 2016 10:10 PM (Ntwfo)

26 Hola all.

At work, which is where you'll always find me on a Saturday night, yet another reason why I need to get out of here.
Posted by: Blano at May 07, 2016 10:07 PM (sdPF/)

******

Damn man. What do you do?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 07, 2016 10:10 PM (PjD3t)

27 Second playoff game tonight! A new bottle of scotch and fresh cigars. And a new fresh thread. It's gonna be a good evening!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 07, 2016 10:11 PM (QDVFm)

28 Dick booping! That's how we handled the Sharks in West Side Story! Gotta sing - gotta dance!

Posted by: The Fabulous Jets at May 07, 2016 10:11 PM (gwG9s)

29 Posted by: andycanuck at May 07, 2016 10:10 PM (Ntwfo)

I don't like that war story.

Posted by: CDR M at May 07, 2016 10:11 PM (McoS+)

30 BLM salute?! Did the Seventies not happen, you blue-eyed devils?

Posted by: derit at May 07, 2016 10:14 PM (OC+TJ)

31 30 BLM salute?! Did the Seventies not happen, you blue-eyed devils?
Posted by: derit at May 07, 2016 10:14 PM (OC+TJ)
***
Dude, that was like 40 years ago. - Tommy Vietor

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 07, 2016 10:15 PM (lutOX)

32 I don't like that war story.
How about...
Second 9/11. Nuke all of Islam.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 07, 2016 10:16 PM (Ntwfo)

33 There will be furry rights at some point. Not allowing people to wear their fursuits in to the office will be a federal crime. I suspect however that polyamory will be the next big frontier in the push for new rights. There also seems to be a bit of a push towards legalized incest among "consenting adults" but I'm yet sure if that will come before or after "trans-species" rights are recognized.

Posted by: Commissar M at May 07, 2016 10:17 PM (eJ7Ky)

34 Anyone seen Captain America: Civil War yet? Thumbs up? Down? Sideways?

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 07, 2016 10:17 PM (Kdx3B)

35 That Cinco de Mayo DUI checkpoint story is just the tip of the iceberg. In parts of NoCal, any DUI checkpoint is soon accompanied by two guys, about 1/4 mile down the road each way from the checkpoint, each holding a sign in Spanish. Don't know what it says, but I think I can guess.

Try that with a sign in English, and see how long they let you stand there.

Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 10:17 PM (iMxBJ)

36 Picard: "Tea, Earl Grey, hot."

Kirk: "Banana cream pie, room temperature."

Splats pie in Picard's face. Watches him cry.

Posted by: eman at May 07, 2016 10:17 PM (MQEz6)

37 Happy Caterday. I took a nap this afternoon and forgot to feed Tom Cat. Poor Kitty. He has a bad mommy.

Posted by: ALH at May 07, 2016 10:18 PM (Z56vq)

38 Dick booping! That's how we handled the Sharks in West Side Story!

I detect a remake of Sharknado in the works, with dancing sharks this time.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 07, 2016 10:18 PM (3C9q2)

39 Damn man. What do you do?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 07, 2016 10:10 PM (PjD3t)

I'm a security guard at a church. We're here 24/7. My shift is 3-11pm.

Posted by: Blano at May 07, 2016 10:18 PM (uiVGU)

40 here !!

but off to watch the latest 'Vanilla Ice Project' with the little jakes.

brb

Posted by: Jake at May 07, 2016 10:19 PM (brrjm)

41 Posted by: Trimegistus at May 07, 2016 10:17 PM (Kdx3B)

I saw it Friday night with my son. It was good. Not great but good. Lots of humor in it. Long flick.

Posted by: CDR M at May 07, 2016 10:20 PM (McoS+)

42 Build 'em, and let the world know we've got 'em.

Doomsday, bitches.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 07, 2016 10:21 PM (lutOX)

43 but off to watch the latest 'Vanilla Ice Project' with the little jakes.

add chocolate, caramel, walnuts, and cherries, and I am so there ...

Posted by: Adriane the Ethnic Food Critic ... at May 07, 2016 10:21 PM (AoK0a)

44 What Rough Progressive, Xirs Hour Come Round At Last

The very pillars of society are being rent asunder, and the mores, customs, and folkways that evolved over countless centuries to provide that ever-so rare balance of virtue and liberty being discarded willy-nilly, by Progressives, who in their mad pride of pseudo-intellectuality, believe that they can create utopia ex nihilo and in vacuo of reality, with themselves as the (un)intellegent designers.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=11690

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 07, 2016 10:22 PM (vBeA5)

45
"He has never demonstrated substantial national appeal. His
hardcore support today consists primarily of the kamikaze Conservatives
who thought the 1960 Goldwater campaign was jolly fun. And there is
reason to doubt that he is well suited to appeal to the electorate that
just produced a Democratic landslide."
- George Will

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 07, 2016 10:22 PM (WVvzl)

46 CDR M at May 07, 2016 10:20 PM (McoS+)

so better than Star Wars 33 1/3 ...

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at May 07, 2016 10:22 PM (AoK0a)

47 I took a nap this afternoon and forgot to feed Tom Cat. Poor Kitty. He has a bad mommy.

My kittehs just jump on me to wake me up if they get a craving for some nom-noms while I'm napping. It's one reason I'd never try to punt them-- the other reason is that they're heavy enough to break a foot bone or two.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 07, 2016 10:23 PM (3C9q2)

48 And just see them rename Paddy Wagons as e.g. Spic Wagons. No, because that would be racist!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 07, 2016 10:23 PM (Ntwfo)

49 As far as I can tell, polyamory is pretty much a done deal. The Left isn't pushing it because nobody's pushing back. Doesn't have that "transgressive" thrill they crave.

No, the next big thing is kiddy-fiddling. That's the pure stuff, uncut. That's what all the liberals are going to discover they totally supported all along and anyone who doesn't is a horrible bigot.

I'm going to put down a marker and say that some time in the next three years a "controversial" feature film (or Netflix/Amazon original TV show) will have a positive portrayal of a sexual relationship between an adult and an underage kid. Not too far underage, maybe 15 or so. Probably it'll be about a lesbian woman and a girl, or an adult woman and a teen boy. Their pure love will be shattered by the disapproval of bigoted white Christians.

The real determining moment will be when Disney does or doesn't jump on the bandwagon. If they do, it'll be war to the knife because their corporate survival will depend on winning. If they don't, the push will run out of steam early.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 07, 2016 10:24 PM (Kdx3B)

50 Tom Cat regurgitated his latest gift on the back patio this afternoon. A headless, tail-less lizard. There were several blood smears on the concrete. The lizard must have put up a real fight.

Posted by: ALH at May 07, 2016 10:25 PM (Z56vq)

51 35 >> Try that with a sign in English, and see how long they let you stand there.

The SC has ruled that holding such signs are free speech and thus protected by the 1st Amendment; cops can't legally harass you for doing that.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 07, 2016 10:25 PM (gyKtp)

52 He has a bad mommy.

Furry discipline gets tangled, does it knot?

Posted by: derit at May 07, 2016 10:26 PM (OC+TJ)

53 Chavez, fishing was limited as my buds water pump went out about 2 hrs into the day. We did ok all things considered

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 07, 2016 10:27 PM (voOPb)

54 I am so ready for " my day" tomorrow. Always involves way too much food but then I get to go to greenhouse and buy flowers and spend the afternoon in my yard. Doesn't get much better than that.

Posted by: Molly k. at May 07, 2016 10:27 PM (4aaDj)

55 The SC has ruled that holding such signs are free speech and thus protected by the 1st Amendment; cops can't legally harass you for doing that.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 07, 2016 10:25 PM (gyKtp)

SOON

Posted by: A Supreme Court with three Hillary Clinton appointees at May 07, 2016 10:28 PM (vBeA5)

56 I'm a security guard at a church. We're here 24/7. My shift is 3-11pm.
Posted by: Blano at May 07, 2016 10:18 PM (uiVGU)

***

Well then, I hope you're on EST and about to go home,

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 07, 2016 10:28 PM (PjD3t)

57 so drudge has a story about how people are rescuing pets left behind by their owners as the fled the beast in fort mccmurray. who leaves their pet when evacuating? well, outside of new orleans anyway.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 07, 2016 10:30 PM (vb33c)

58 Late howdy....

I see MH and chavez did okay

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 10:30 PM (qtHbI)

59 25 BTW, #17 is a war story in six words.
Posted by: andycanuck at May 07, 2016 10:10 PM (Ntwfo)

War story with the 1st Mrs. MH dammit I hate you fuck off and die

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 07, 2016 10:30 PM (voOPb)

60 I'm a security guard at a church. We're here 24/7. My shift is 3-11pm.
Posted by: Blano at May 07, 2016 10:18 PM (uiVGU)

how much stuff does a church have to guard?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 07, 2016 10:30 PM (vb33c)

61
His
hardcore support today consists primarily of the kamikaze Conservatives
who thought the 1960 Goldwater campaign was jolly fun.

1960?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 07, 2016 10:31 PM (k4M/B)

62 53: Good to hear. Glad you did well. Going planer boarding for wllayes on Poygan soon. should be interesting.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 07, 2016 10:32 PM (ucDmr)

63 1960?

Forget it, he's on a roll...

Posted by: t-bird at May 07, 2016 10:33 PM (oFSUK)

64 As far as I can tell, polyamory is pretty much a done deal.

I can haz polyamory with kittehs?

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 07, 2016 10:33 PM (3C9q2)

65 "how much stuff does a church have to guard?"

Dirty little secret, churches got money.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 10:34 PM (qtHbI)

66 "how much stuff does a church have to guard?"

Dirty little secret, churches got money.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 10:34 PM (qtHbI)

well, one day a week.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 07, 2016 10:34 PM (vb33c)

67 RK dude!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 07, 2016 10:35 PM (voOPb)

68 @61

It's an article illustrating how long George Will has been a deuschebag and "CON-servative"

He's talking about Ronald Reagan in that article.

He has a nearly verbatim article at "CON-servative" central, National Review Online.

I don't know who I'd like to punch in the face more, George Will or William Kristol.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 07, 2016 10:35 PM (WVvzl)

69 It doesn't matter if there's anything of value in the church, you still have to guard it from idiots who think there might be.

Plus vandals showing how tolerant they are of diversity.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 07, 2016 10:36 PM (Kdx3B)

70 just for the record, fuck nascash and their kyle bush and joe gibbs charity bullshit. they can't die fast enough for me. what a fuckin joke.if that's racing, i'm dale earnhardt.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 07, 2016 10:36 PM (ucDmr)

71 A beer pipeline?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HG_wfMK7dko

Posted by: Chi at May 07, 2016 10:36 PM (uKWAY)

72
Well then, I hope you're on EST and about to go home,
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 07, 2016 10:28 PM (PjD3t)

Alas, CST.

Posted by: Blano at May 07, 2016 10:37 PM (sdPF/)

73 "RK dude!"

SSSSSSHHHTTTT!

Down low.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 10:37 PM (qtHbI)

74 62 53: Good to hear. Glad you did well. Going planer boarding for wllayes on Poygan soon. should be interesting.

Use to ice fish polygon a lot. Not much open water, we trolled rap alas no planer boards etc

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 07, 2016 10:38 PM (voOPb)

75 Shoot, the Phillies just booped the Marlins.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 07, 2016 10:38 PM (3C9q2)

76 Got an idea for an avant guarde comedic Mother's Day movie - "Mother's Day at Madonna's"

Over the hill singer who thinks she's still sexy with ex spouses, children, and Milky Virus.

Purr gold there.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 07, 2016 10:38 PM (6hLK2)

77 Polyarmory?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 07, 2016 10:38 PM (k4M/B)

78 74: Let you know how it goes.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 07, 2016 10:39 PM (ucDmr)

79 Polyarmory?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 07, 2016 10:38 PM (k4M/B)

it is the planet in star trek where you buy the statue if you are interested in hooking up or something.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 07, 2016 10:39 PM (vb33c)

80 I will always remember where I was when the moon landing happened, 9-11, and Bartolo Colon's 1st career home run

https://twitter.com/NBCSN/status/729120311497633792

Posted by: kbdabear at May 07, 2016 10:40 PM (BIa0z)

81 I'm surprised that the WH hasn't invited some thruple or whatever the hell they're called to a LGBT function yet as the guests of honor.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 07, 2016 10:40 PM (fC9RO)

82 how much stuff does a church have to guard?
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 07, 2016 10:30 PM (vb33c)

The property itself is almost 150 acres total with multiple buildings, including gymnasium, sports facilities, etc. Lots of stuff, combine it with a slightly paranoid leadership (due to an incident in the past), being right on a major thoroughfare and voila, here we are.

Posted by: Blano at May 07, 2016 10:40 PM (NHQQx)

83 "He has never demonstrated substantial national appeal. His
hardcore support today consists primarily of the kamikaze Conservatives who thought the 1960 Goldwater campaign was jolly fun. And there is reason to doubt that he is well suited to appeal to the electorate that just produced a Democratic landslide."
- George Will

But Goldwater came back and won in 1968 and 1972 or was that the other guy?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 07, 2016 10:41 PM (45oDG)

84 The property itself is almost 150 acres total with multiple buildings, including gymnasium, sports facilities, etc. Lots of stuff, combine it with a slightly paranoid leadership (due to an incident in the past), being right on a major thoroughfare and voila, here we are.
Posted by: Blano at May 07, 2016 10:40 PM (NHQQx)

lots to guard for one guy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 07, 2016 10:41 PM (vb33c)

85 Jewells45, sorry, the Tribe is going to take two out of three.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 07, 2016 10:41 PM (FQKBL)

86 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/728991791446265856

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/728991958643826688

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/728992115020046338

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/728992267453669377

Posted by: kbdabear at May 07, 2016 10:42 PM (BIa0z)

87 More Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/728992426325508097

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/728992594059874304

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/728992760968007680

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/728993046537240576

Posted by: kbdabear at May 07, 2016 10:43 PM (BIa0z)

88 Of all the "perverse" groups.... Polygamists are the least "perverse" to Me... I wonder if the Polygamists were all Women or Men if they would be accepted?

Posted by: donna at May 07, 2016 10:44 PM (O2RFr)

89 I think a Vauban-style fortress is an example of a Polyarmory.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 07, 2016 10:44 PM (Ntwfo)

90 I'm surprised that the WH hasn't invited some thruple or whatever the hell they're called to a LGBT function yet as the guests of honor.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 07, 2016 10:40 PM (fC9RO)

Trigglypuff needs to be invited. The only difference between rabid lefty commie queer and Barry is about 700 lbs.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 07, 2016 10:45 PM (45oDG)

91 Dirty little secret, churches got money.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 10:34 PM (qtHbI)

The weekly budget is 200 grand. And they've been blowing past that for a while now.

Quite the operation.

Posted by: Blano at May 07, 2016 10:45 PM (NHQQx)

92 "Polyarmory?"

You'll share your guns. I'll share shit,

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 10:45 PM (qtHbI)

93 Sad to see Cruz at the track. He could be at one of my casinos! I took his nomination so why not his money? Or his veep? Carly, just stop calling. Just stop.

Posted by: TRUMP 2016 at May 07, 2016 10:45 PM (gwG9s)

94
Trigglypuff needs to be invited. The only difference between rabid lefty commie queer and Barry is about 700 lbs.

Isn't that the truth... Obama looks emaciated...

Posted by: donna at May 07, 2016 10:45 PM (O2RFr)

95 As far as I can tell, polyamory is pretty much a done deal.

I can haz polyamory with kittehs?

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 07, 2016 10:33 PM (3C9q2)

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Posted by: Neko Mimi Mode at May 07, 2016 10:46 PM (vBeA5)

96 lots to guard for one guy.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 07, 2016 10:41 PM (vb33c)

Typically 3 of us here at a time, more during the week.

Posted by: Blano at May 07, 2016 10:47 PM (uiVGU)

97 Deadpool is awesome.

That is all

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at May 07, 2016 10:47 PM (R5HRU)

98 70 just for the record, fuck nascash and their kyle bush and joe gibbs charity bullshit. they can't die fast enough for me. what a fuckin joke.if that's racing, i'm dale earnhardt.
Posted by: chavez the hugo

I can't hear you. I have wads of cash in my ears. Now excuse me, I need to go swimming in my pool of $500 bills. HEHEHEHEHE!!!

Posted by: Brian France at May 07, 2016 10:48 PM (pY+s4)

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Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 10:50 PM (qtHbI)

100 98: don't you have a tree to run into?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 07, 2016 10:51 PM (ucDmr)

101 So about China's crackdown on women eating fruit (like bananas) in an "erotic" fashion on webcams:

Does that mean China's government is bananas? B-A-NAN-A-S?

Posted by: Thrawn at May 07, 2016 10:51 PM (wQWv4)

102 average?

well!!

Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at May 07, 2016 10:51 PM (AoK0a)

103 If you are a bartender in New York City, you will be required by law to serve a pregnant woman alcohol.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gus42mn

Seriously, WTF!

Posted by: Drinking for Two at May 07, 2016 10:52 PM (vBeA5)

104 " RK dude!"

That bad or good?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 10:54 PM (qtHbI)

105 77 Polyarmory?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

Sort of Open Marriage/Swingers/moresomes but "serious" with "relationship status". Like communism, it looks good on paper. Or something like that. I'm not really up on the latest definitions for deviancy.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 07, 2016 10:55 PM (pY+s4)

106 Drinking for Two

Tea, one hopes ...

Posted by: and little cucumber sandwiches for all ... at May 07, 2016 10:55 PM (AoK0a)

107 Yeah, I went to see Deadpool at the cinema and wasn't disappointed. It's not Citizen Kane or anything, but, it was very enjoyable. What makes the flick for me, is that it pretty much sticks to the spirit and execution of the original 90's comics. There was some stuff that didn't need to be there and some stuff that could have been included, but, overall it's a hit. The nuffies that butcher the X-Men films should take heed of how Deadpool was done.

Posted by: otho at May 07, 2016 10:56 PM (EWg9n)

108 @Trimegistus: Yeah, I forgot to add that part about the movie/cable TV/Netfilx series. That's a major sign that some "issue" is being pushed into the mainstream.

I agree that legal kiddie diddling is in the future somewhere but it's one of those things that still makes even the more ardent leftards squirm a bit. They will make excuses that the danger of sexual predators in opposite sex restrooms is vanishingly small. However, that 30-something adult neighbor grooming their teenage kid starts to feel personal. It's also a major issue for feminists, for whom sexual trauma is practically a twisted rite of passage. They WILL push the issue at some point but how they sell it to the perpetually angry triggered and traumatized queer feminist cadre is something I can't figure out.

Posted by: Commissar M at May 07, 2016 10:58 PM (eJ7Ky)

109 Seriously, WTF!
Posted by: Drinking for Two
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New York values

Posted by: Chi at May 07, 2016 10:58 PM (WFzg2)

110 And this is my sister wife and our son Four Eyes.

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at May 07, 2016 10:58 PM (V86aL)

111 Will be interested in reading Ace's take on the movie.

Posted by: otho at May 07, 2016 10:59 PM (EWg9n)

112 No ruling.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:00 PM (qtHbI)

113 I hope y'all are ready for Mother's Day tomorrow.

Yup. Flowers a-ready. Supper plans made (dining in, not going out with the masses).

Glad to still have my mom around at 95 (her, that is, not me), still on her (sometimes wobbly) pins, and clear-headed. Gets a little tired after her workout at the gym sometimes...! (Pulls up abacus... calculates...) She's been a mom since 1943!

Going down to visit here with Milady, mother of our three. A wonderful and devoted (if *ahem!* not always sufficiently respected) mom since 1981.

Special mention for my daughter, whose baby, years ago, only made it a few months in the womb, but we consider her qualified as a Mom, too. In the hardest way.

Earlier today we took flowers to our neighbor, a wonderful woman who earlier this year lost the eldest of her three offspring.

Happies and hugs to all moms. They do all the work.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dadperson at May 07, 2016 11:00 PM (5a8XA)

114 103 If you are a bartender in New York City, you will be required by law to serve a pregnant woman alcohol.
Seriously, WTF!
Posted by: Drinking for Two at May 07, 2016 10:52 PM (vBeA5)

More Fetal Alcohol Syndrome means more Democrat voters!

Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 11:01 PM (iMxBJ)

115 No Mother's Day tomorrow. No moma.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:01 PM (qtHbI)

116 "Momma"

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:03 PM (qtHbI)

117 That Cinco de Mayo DUI checkpoint story is just the tip of the iceberg. In parts of NoCal, any DUI checkpoint is soon accompanied by two guys, about 1/4 mile down the road each way from the checkpoint, each holding a sign in Spanish. Don't know what it says, but I think I can guess.

Try that with a sign in English, and see how long they let you stand there.

Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 10:17 PM (iMxBJ)

Sounds like something that needs to be caught on video. Telephoto lens, so the videographer avoids detection.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 07, 2016 11:04 PM (uDjkO)

118 Slow ONT.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:04 PM (qtHbI)

119 Tonight my son took me to see Captain America:Civil War for Mother's Day. As we were leaving the theater, at every exit, were large signs which said "Geese are aggressive. Please exit cautiously."

Posted by: Terentia at May 07, 2016 11:07 PM (0ArPO)

120 Words that must not be spoken.
Topic that must not be taken.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jze2sby

Posted by: Patina Awry Newt at May 07, 2016 11:08 PM (V86aL)

121 Rejoice, Horde! For another ONT has come, and no Yoko, Lena, or Trigglypuff has smitten us! Continue to follow the path of Horde righteousness, and all will be well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at May 07, 2016 11:09 PM (OF/aZ)

122 115 No Mother's Day tomorrow. No moma.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:01 PM (qtHbI)

What, were you hatched???

I'm planning on taking a moment to remember my dear Grandma. Before she passed, I used to send silly gift boxes and such. Now, I can only send my thoughts.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 07, 2016 11:10 PM (EzgxV)

123 119 Tonight my son took me to see Captain America:Civil War for Mother's Day. As we were leaving the theater, at every exit, were large signs which said "Geese are aggressive. Please exit cautiously."
Posted by: Terentia
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And you made it here to comment?
I guess you're faster than your son...

Posted by: Chi at May 07, 2016 11:10 PM (WFzg2)

124 nascar is dead. nobody has told them yet. it's a parody anymore. nobody cares at all.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 07, 2016 11:11 PM (ucDmr)

125 @Terentia"

Awesome your son took you to a movie.

Geese agressing are another thing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:11 PM (qtHbI)

126 "What, were "you hatched???

Oh no, No momma anymore.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:14 PM (qtHbI)

127 "Geese are aggressive. Please exit cautiously."
------
Violent honkies! Must be Trump supporters!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 07, 2016 11:14 PM (Ntwfo)

128 If you are a bartender in New York City, you will be required by law to serve a pregnant woman alcohol.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gus42mn

Seriously, WTF!

Posted by: Drinking for Two at May 07, 2016 10:52 PM (vBeA5)

You know, I'm OK with that. It's up to the woman to decide how much alcohol is "safe" to drink when pregnant. Telling bartenders they can or must refuse service to pregnant women is just making bartenders into proxy agents of the nanny state.

And once a pregnant woman has had a couple of drinks, the bartender, if concerned about the fetus, can cut her off for "being drunk". They have a lot of leeway on that determination.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 07, 2016 11:14 PM (uDjkO)

129 "Geese are aggressive. Please exit cautiously."
------
Violent honkies! Must be Trump supporters!

HEY!

you keep it together with people screaming 'boo' at you left, right, and upside down!!!!

Posted by: Fed up Geese, Local 623 ... at May 07, 2016 11:17 PM (AoK0a)

130 128 You know, I'm OK with that. It's up to the woman to decide how much alcohol is "safe" to drink when pregnant. Telling bartenders they can or must refuse service to pregnant women is just making bartenders into proxy agents of the nanny state.

Telling bartenders they must refuse service to pregnant women is just making bartenders into proxy agents of the state. Telling bartenders they must not refuse service to pregnant women is just making bartenders into proxy agents of the state. Telling bartenders they can choose what to do would be the state leaving them alone.

Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 11:18 PM (iMxBJ)

131 You know, I'm OK with that. It's up to the woman to decide how much alcohol is "safe" to drink when pregnant. Telling bartenders they can or must refuse service to pregnant women is just making bartenders into proxy agents of the nanny state.

And once a pregnant woman has had a couple of drinks, the bartender, if concerned about the fetus, can cut her off for "being drunk". They have a lot of leeway on that determination.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 07, 2016 11:14 PM (uDjkO)

This isn't about the government prohibiting bartenders from serving pregnant women. It is mandating that they must.

That rule is odeous and any bartender that serves a pregnant woman alcohol should have the ever loving shit kicked out of them by whatever decent human beings around.

Posted by: The Ass-Kicking Hat at May 07, 2016 11:20 PM (vBeA5)

132 HEY!

you keep it together with people screaming 'boo' at you left, right, and upside down!!!!
Posted by: Fed up Geese, Local 623
----------------
Not to mention getting bonked on the head everyday at recess!

Posted by: Duck & Duck, Inc. at May 07, 2016 11:20 PM (WFzg2)

133 130 128 You know, I'm OK with that. It's up to the woman to decide how much alcohol is "safe" to drink when pregnant. Telling bartenders they can or must refuse service to pregnant women is just making bartenders into proxy agents of the nanny state.

Telling bartenders they must refuse service to pregnant women is just making bartenders into proxy agents of the state. Telling bartenders they must not refuse service to pregnant women is just making bartenders into proxy agents of the state. Telling bartenders they can choose what to do would be the state leaving them alone.

Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 11:18 PM (iMxBJ)

^^^This guy gets it. How come he's not on a ballot?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 07, 2016 11:20 PM (EzgxV)

134 ""What, were "you hatched???

"I's really hoping you'd follow up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:22 PM (qtHbI)

135 So, I can just see the new bar craze.... Liquor n' Lamaze, the New Happy Hour!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 07, 2016 11:24 PM (McRlu)

136 133 ^^^This guy gets it. How come he's not on a ballot?
Posted by: cthulhu at May 07, 2016 11:20 PM (EzgxV)

Skeletons. There's video of me flipping off a box of kittens.

Okay, I stole that joke from a comic strip called Penny Arcade.

Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 11:25 PM (iMxBJ)

137 "Before she passed, I used to send silly gift boxes and such. "

You can still send them.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:25 PM (qtHbI)

138 Evening horde.

Happy Saturday ONT!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 07, 2016 11:25 PM (hlMPp)

139 Hey, Horde. Saying hi and bye because I hate posting on my phone. The karaoke bar is dead tonight. Might just do a Bob Dylan set to drive the half dozen beer drinkers out so we can go home early.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on his two way wrist phone at May 07, 2016 11:26 PM (ORH4/)

140 Venezuela can't make beer(!) or electricity anymore because of their TrumpenSanders mish-mash of Lefty Populism.

Which is also why they do make too many generals and too much cronyism and repression.

Just posted on the Great Man-Made Beer Famine there. Maybe the kids will think twice with their lager on the line.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 07, 2016 11:27 PM (Ndje9)

141 Okay, I stole that joke from a comic strip called Penny Arcade.

Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 11:25 PM (iMxBJ)

Penny Arcade.

That Christoforo debacle was funny as shit.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 07, 2016 11:27 PM (hlMPp)

142 139 Hey, Horde. Saying hi and bye because I hate posting on my phone. The karaoke bar is dead tonight. Might just do a Bob Dylan set to drive the half dozen beer drinkers out so we can go home early.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on his two way wrist phone at May 07, 2016 11:26 PM (ORH4/)

OMG -- Bob Dylan karaoke!!! Must have clothespins available for singers' noses.....

Posted by: cthulhu at May 07, 2016 11:27 PM (EzgxV)

143 This isn't about the government prohibiting bartenders from serving pregnant women. It is mandating that they must.

That rule is odeous and any bartender that serves a pregnant woman alcohol should have the ever loving shit kicked out of them by whatever decent human beings around.

Posted by: The Ass-Kicking Hat at May 07, 2016 11:20 PM (vBeA5)

Nope. It's the woman's responsibility to govern her alcohol intake to a level that is safe for her unborn child. Bartenders are simply not competent to know for certain is a woman is pregnant, or if so, how far along she is.

Trigglypuff walks into a bar: "Gimme a bourbon, a scotch, and a beer!"

Bartender: "I can't, you're pregnant." "Fuck you! I'm not pregnant, just adiposally gifted." "You're knocked up." "No, I'm not. Do you think any man would do me?" (breaks down into tears.)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 07, 2016 11:28 PM (uDjkO)

144 Yeah, sorry Bertram, polyamory is the current term to describe allegedly "serious, committed" multi-partner relationships. What makes it different from cheating, swinging or old wretched polygamy is that it's supposedly an "orientation". Because you "come out" as poly and it's all honest and out in the open, your partner(s)/spouse(s) should be totes understanding and compassionate. Even better, they should embrace it and happily join in (although it's an orientation, not a lifestyle choice). While this sounds every teen boy's fantasy, a good number of people who push it are women. I knew at least one woman who was in a poly marriage and she was the most horribly miserable person I knew at the time. Apparently, she was the legal wife of the husband and the biological mother of the kids but she constantly bitched about how poorly she was treated by her husband and "other wife". Well , DUH! None of the situations I've personally witnessed have worked out and usually left one partner as a third wheel. So now, the push is to legalize poly marriages. Unlike polygamy, the partners would all be legally married to each other. Imagine what divorce, child custody and estate succession would be like when say, four, six or more people are all married to each other!

Posted by: Commissar M at May 07, 2016 11:28 PM (eJ7Ky)

145 Obama looks emaciated...

I'm seriously considering moving up to SIX-pound dumbbells. #Shredded #AllNatural

Posted by: Barry O at May 07, 2016 11:29 PM (9mTYi)

146 144 Yeah, sorry Bertram, polyamory is the current term to describe allegedly "serious, committed" multi-partner relationships. What makes it different from cheating, swinging or old wretched polygamy is that it's supposedly an "orientation". Because you "come out" as poly and it's all honest and out in the open, your partner(s)/spouse(s) should be totes understanding and compassionate. Even better, they should embrace it and happily join in (although it's an orientation, not a lifestyle choice). While this sounds every teen boy's fantasy, a good number of people who push it are women. I knew at least one woman who was in a poly marriage and she was the most horribly miserable person I knew at the time. Apparently, she was the legal wife of the husband and the biological mother of the kids but she constantly bitched about how poorly she was treated by her husband and "other wife". Well , DUH! None of the situations I've personally witnessed have worked out and usually left one partner as a third wheel. So now, the push is to legalize poly marriages. Unlike polygamy, the partners would all be legally married to each other. Imagine what divorce, child custody and estate succession would be like when say, four, six or more people are all married to each other!

Posted by: Commissar M at May 07, 2016 11:28 PM (eJ7Ky)

I dunno, seems as normal as vacuum to me.

Posted by: Manuel Garcia O'Kelly-Davis at May 07, 2016 11:31 PM (EzgxV)

147 Obama looks emaciated...

For a moment there, I thought you'd Proclaimed that he'd been Emancipated.

Halfemancipated?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 07, 2016 11:31 PM (McRlu)

148 10
Beer pipeline? Beer pipeline?

At last, a third faucet on the kitchen sink.

There is, of course, a danger with that sort of arrangement, pointed out by the great philosopher Tom T. Hall:

Last night I dreamed that I passed from the scene
And I went to a place so sublime
The water was clear and tasted like beer
Then they turned it all into wine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ7j292Y_Cw

Posted by: Anachronda at May 07, 2016 11:32 PM (Oi5b2)

149 Oh fcuk, me and dog of bed.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:32 PM (qtHbI)

150 141 Penny Arcade.
That Christoforo debacle was funny as shit.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 07, 2016 11:27 PM (hlMPp)

Oh, yes. The chagrin of the would-be bully, utterly exposed. That brilliant drawing of Gabe as The Grinch. "wwebsite as on the internet." And I still wonder who put out that amazing video satire, so quickly after the whole thing broke.

Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 11:34 PM (iMxBJ)

151 144: Imagine what divorce, child custody and estate succession would be like when say, four, six or more people are all married to each other!

We're giddy with anticipation!!! {jumps up and down, clapping hands}

Posted by: Divorce Lawyers at May 07, 2016 11:35 PM (pY+s4)

152
"Geese are aggressive. Please exit cautiously."

And they are a protected species so you can't fight back.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 07, 2016 11:35 PM (k4M/B)

153 Nope. It's the woman's responsibility to govern her alcohol intake to a level that is safe for her unborn child. Bartenders are simply not competent to know for certain is a woman is pregnant, or if so, how far along she is.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 07, 2016 11:28 PM (uDjkO)

What about the right to refuse service?

A bartender should not be forced by the government to serve a pregnant woman alcohol.

Posted by: The Ass-Kicking Hat at May 07, 2016 11:36 PM (vBeA5)

154 Hey, Horde. Saying hi and bye because I hate posting on my phone. The karaoke bar is dead tonight. Might just do a Bob Dylan set to drive the half dozen beer drinkers out so we can go home early.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread on his two way wrist phone at May 07, 2016 11:26 PM

LOL, you do know your job Capt. Best wishes for an early exit.

Posted by: Farmer at May 07, 2016 11:38 PM (PzqA/)

155 What about the right to refuse service?

A bartender should not be forced by the government to serve a pregnant woman alcohol.
Posted by: The Ass-Kicking Hat at May 07, 2016 11:36 PM (vBeA5)

What are the legal implications if a woman buys alcoholic beverages and consumes them, then has a baby with fetal alcohol syndrome? Can she sue the bartender who sold her the drinks? If you can sue a homeowner for breaking into his property and getting injured there, what's to stop lawsuits of this nature?

This seems really shortsighted, for the bartenders.

Posted by: Moki at May 07, 2016 11:38 PM (ezHMO)

156 Oh fcuk, me and dog of bed.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:32 PM (qtHbI)

This is the kind of beautiful Aoshq poetry that keeps me addicted to coming here.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 07, 2016 11:39 PM (GzDYP)

157 57 so drudge has a story about how people are rescuing pets left behind by their owners as the fled the beast in fort mccmurray. who leaves their pet when evacuating? well, outside of new orleans anyway.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 07, 2016 10:30 PM (vb33c)

That pisses me off. If you have a pet, it's your responsibility to protect it in situations like that. If you don't want to protect pets, then don't have any. No one is forcing you to have them. I couldn't live with myself if I let my pets behind to die a horrible death in a wildfire. What the hell is wrong with people?

Posted by: Slappy at May 07, 2016 11:39 PM (rtfSu)

158 Yeah, sorry Bertram, polyamory is the current term to describe allegedly "serious, committed" multi-partner relationships. What makes it different from cheating, swinging or old wretched polygamy is that it's supposedly an "orientation". Because you "come out" as poly and it's all honest and out in the open, your partner(s)/spouse(s) should be totes understanding and compassionate. Even better, they should embrace it and happily join in (although it's an orientation, not a lifestyle choice). While this sounds every teen boy's fantasy, a good number of people who push it are women. I knew at least one woman who was in a poly marriage and she was the most horribly miserable person I knew at the time. Apparently, she was the legal wife of the husband and the biological mother of the kids but she constantly bitched about how poorly she was treated by her husband and "other wife". Well , DUH! None of the situations I've personally witnessed have worked out and usually left one partner as a third wheel. So now, the push is to legalize poly marriages. Unlike polygamy, the partners would all be legally married to each other. Imagine what divorce, child custody and estate succession would be like when say, four, six or more people are all married to each other!

Posted by: Commissar M at May 07, 2016 11:28 PM (eJ7Ky)

It will be improvement on society when people realize that whether or not you're genetically predisposed to act a certain way is, by itself, no guide to how you should actually act. I'm not sure why it's taken so long for many people to make that argument.

Posted by: AD at May 07, 2016 11:39 PM (VtV1E)

159 139 Might just do a Bob Dylan set to drive the half dozen beer drinkers out so we can go home early.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread on his two way wrist phone at May 07, 2016 11:26 PM (ORH4/)

Maybe throw in some Leonard Cohen?

Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 11:40 PM (iMxBJ)

160 Polyamory, "throuples"... Anyone ever heard of the "Kerista Commune" and "compersion"? We were told there'd be no 'slippery slope'!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 07, 2016 11:40 PM (kP16F)

161 Good evening, horde.

That ticklish kitteh is funny. I never heard a cat make sounds like that.

But dogs also get weird when the base of their spines right above their tails are scratched. I've always wondered about that and guessed that it is a sensitive spot because it's one they can't reach themselves when they scratch themselves with their hind feet.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 07, 2016 11:40 PM (P8951)

162 Those West Point cadets will be invited to the White House before I leave office.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 07, 2016 11:41 PM (LYCUN)

163 81 I'm surprised that the WH hasn't invited some thruple or whatever the hell they're called to a LGBT function yet as the guests of honor.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 07, 2016 10:40 PM (fC9RO)

I'd prefer that we put all of them, including Obama, in a missile and fire it at the sun.

Posted by: Slappy at May 07, 2016 11:41 PM (rtfSu)

164 Maybe throw in some Leonard Cohen?
Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 11:40 PM (iMxBJ)

I actually like Cohen, but "Famous Blue Raincoat' makes me want to slit my wrists.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 07, 2016 11:41 PM (P8951)

165 Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 11:34 PM (iMxBJ

Shit. There was a video?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 07, 2016 11:44 PM (hlMPp)

166 What about the right to refuse service?

A bartender should not be forced by the government to serve a pregnant woman alcohol.

Posted by: The Ass-Kicking Hat at May 07, 2016 11:36 PM (vBeA5)

Like I said, let her have one or two drinks, Probably won't hurt the kid. Then cut her her off for "being intoxicated". Bartenders don't have to serve intoxicated persons. Accomplishes mostly the same result, and relieves the bartender of having determine if his customer is pregnant. You will agree it's hard to tell, if she's only a few weeks along.

And the really dedicated alkys will be drinking at home from a bottle, anyway.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 07, 2016 11:44 PM (xyDMP)

167 164 I actually like Cohen, but "Famous Blue Raincoat' makes me want to slit my wrists.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 07, 2016 11:41 PM (P8951)

I like some of his stuff a whole lot, but I can still imagine it clearing out a bar full of festive people.

Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 11:44 PM (iMxBJ)

168 But dogs also get weird when the base of their spines right above their tails are scratched. I've always wondered about that and guessed that it is a sensitive spot because it's one they can't reach themselves when they scratch themselves with their hind feet.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 07, 2016 11:40 PM

Hi Donna. Never tried that particular spot, but Bailey, 6 yo lab, just loves to have her butt scratched in general, always has. You sit there and she rubs up against you begging for it to be scratched.

Damn, now I miss my doggehs.

Posted by: Farmer at May 07, 2016 11:46 PM (PzqA/)

169 165 Shit. There was a video?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 07, 2016 11:44 PM (hlMPp)

Oh, yes.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z326wo8

Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 11:47 PM (iMxBJ)

170 Leonard Cohen? Hmm...
(Searching database for First We Take Manhattan)

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the phone at May 07, 2016 11:47 PM (v6tPi)

171
It will be improvement on society when people
realize that whether or not you're genetically predisposed to act a
certain way is, by itself, no guide to how you should actually act. I'm
not sure why it's taken so long for many people to make that argument.

Posted by: AD at May 07, 2016 11:39 PM (VtV1E)

Um, that's pretty much been argued for thousands of years. Certainly the Church has made it clear that you are expected to rise above your baser instincts.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 07, 2016 11:48 PM (fC9RO)

172 Fucked up. Everything is 5 times size.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:48 PM (qtHbI)

173 Jesus Christ, fucked up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 07, 2016 11:51 PM (qtHbI)

174 Posted by: Splunge at May 07, 2016 11:47 PM (iMxBJ

LMAO.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 07, 2016 11:51 PM (hlMPp)

175 What is the sexual orientation of the dog that drags its arse across the carpet?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 07, 2016 11:52 PM (kP16F)

176 Sweet dreams Ricardo!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 07, 2016 11:53 PM (GzDYP)

177 158

It will be improvement on society when people realize that whether or not you're genetically predisposed to act a certain way is, by itself, no guide to how you should actually act. I'm not sure why it's taken so long for many people to make that argument.

Posted by: AD at May 07, 2016 11:39 PM (VtV1E)

If all the members of a polyamorous relationship are willingly engaging in the relationship, how can it be prevented considering we have now redefined marriage to include two people of the same gender? Why does the relationship have to be between only two people? Supporters of gay marriage never have a good response to that question. That's one of many reasons why you don't legalize gay marriage. Two people of the same gender want to be together, fine, but don't expect our government or society to celebrate it or place it legally (or morally) on the same level as heterosexual marriage.

Posted by: Slappy at May 07, 2016 11:54 PM (rtfSu)

178 more than 4,000 generals

Which means they don't have any.

If Colombia wants the place, they can walk in and take it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 07, 2016 11:54 PM (6FqZa)

179 Imagine what divorce, child custody and estate succession would be like when say, four, six or more people are all married to each other!

It would be a bonanza for unemployed/underemployed lawyers.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 07, 2016 11:54 PM (3C9q2)

180 I've spent much of the evening in Eva Cassidy land on YouTube. The room gets a little dusty every time I listen to her sing.

Posted by: rickl at May 07, 2016 11:54 PM (sdi6R)

181 What is the sexual orientation of the dog that drags its arse across the carpet?
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 07, 2016 11:52 PM

xworms

Posted by: Farmer at May 07, 2016 11:55 PM (PzqA/)

182 What is the sexual orientation of the dog that drags its arse across the carpet?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 07, 2016 11:52 PM (kP16F)

That's not sexual. That's tapeworm.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 07, 2016 11:55 PM (GzDYP)

183 Polyamory, "throuples"... Anyone ever heard of the "Kerista Commune" and "compersion"? We were told there'd be no 'slippery slope'!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 07, 2016 11:40 PM (kP16F)

Smath the duo-normative di-archy!!1!

Posted by: Pimp sharing his hoes at May 07, 2016 11:55 PM (vBeA5)

184 Um, that's pretty much been argued for thousands of years. Certainly the Church has made it clear that you are expected to rise above your baser instincts.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 07, 2016 11:48 PM (fC9RO)

Gee, no shit. Not in the civic arena it isn't.

The Church has it own prescriptions for leading a moral life. Making the distinction when this is debated on a political level (that genetics shouldn't be given the weight they're currently given) is a very rare occurrence.

Posted by: AD at May 07, 2016 11:57 PM (VtV1E)

185 Venezuela has more than 4,000 generals.

Pikers. Everyone is a general here!

Posted by: Peruvia at May 07, 2016 11:58 PM (Tyii7)

186 175 What is the sexual orientation of the dog that drags its arse across the carpet?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 07, 2016 11:52 PM (kP16F)

It depends. What kind of carpet is it and is the dog male or female? For example, if it's shag carpeting and the dog is a male, then they obviously get too much of a sexual thrill from doing it and they are obviously gay.

Posted by: Slappy at May 07, 2016 11:58 PM (rtfSu)

187 Polyamory...kiddie fiddling...
If this is the future, why did I even have the heart surgery?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the phone at May 07, 2016 11:58 PM (v6tPi)

188 "Obama looks emaciated...."

Maybe it's wish-casting while we're circling the drain but he doesn't look well and hasn't in quite a while. Of course, the job obviously ages people, even when the play golf and travel to avoid real work while looking busy like JEF. But still, if this guy's lifestyle is or was anything like it has been reported or speculated, it would probably be taking a toll on him now. He's known to have been a pretty serious drug user and his gay/bi orientation is a pretty open secret. RE: Sullivan's "First Gay President" Newsweek cover story. The years of coke and anphetamines, the exposure to various types of VD, hepatitis and of course HIV. I've watched this stuff either directly or as a contributing factor kill a number of friends and loved ones over the years and I have wonder how anyone with that sort of lifestyle dodges an early demise.

Then again, he could be on death's door and you'd never know. The media is totally in the tank for him but honestly, they've always covered up for Dem presidents.

Posted by: Commissar M at May 07, 2016 11:59 PM (eJ7Ky)

189 If all the members of a polyamorous relationship are willingly engaging in the relationship, how can it be prevented considering we have now redefined marriage to include two people of the same gender? Why does the relationship have to be between only two people? Supporters of gay marriage never have a good response to that question.

I agree. That's one of the reasons I was hesitant about it.

Posted by: AD at May 07, 2016 11:59 PM (VtV1E)

190 Diddling. Stupid autocorrect.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread on the phone at May 08, 2016 12:00 AM (v6tPi)

191 185 Venezuela has more than 4,000 generals.

Pikers. Everyone is a general here!

Posted by: Peruvia at May 07, 2016 11:58 PM (Tyii7)

What?!? What is this Venezuela you speak of?!? Is it on Planet Houston?!? Nonetheless, there is only one general -- ME. Now, kneel before Zod.

Posted by: General Zod at May 08, 2016 12:01 AM (rtfSu)

192 Even our pets are lieutenant generals.

Posted by: Peruvia at May 08, 2016 12:01 AM (Tyii7)

193 Commissar M: John F Kennedy was a dead man walking from what I've read of him. All Oswald had to do was wait a few months

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 08, 2016 12:01 AM (6FqZa)

194 My mom would be 1 on any top mom list.
As someone once said, you are the worst persons in the world.

Posted by: June Shelton at May 08, 2016 12:03 AM (IDVkJ)

195
Even our pets are lieutenant generals.
Posted by: Peruvia

Peruvian water dog should be an Admiral.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 12:04 AM (k4M/B)

196 i heard there was a secret chord
that david played to please the lord

Posted by: too many fucking bad movies at May 08, 2016 12:04 AM (6FqZa)

197 Gerbils cannot rise above the rank of colonel, though.

Posted by: Peruvia at May 08, 2016 12:04 AM (Tyii7)

198 whether or not you're genetically predisposed to act a certain way is, by itself, no guide to how you should actually act.

Ah'm bein' repressed!

Posted by: Man pissing on a car at May 08, 2016 12:05 AM (ANVXm)

199 Richard Gere usually promotes his gerbils to the rank of rear admiral

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 08, 2016 12:05 AM (6FqZa)

200 Peruvian water dog should be an Admiral.

It's a trap!

Posted by: Peruvia at May 08, 2016 12:05 AM (Tyii7)

201 I don't blame you for missing your doggehs, Farmer. I miss having one.

How's the Arizona trip going?

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 12:05 AM (P8951)

202 189

I agree. That's one of the reasons I was hesitant about it.

Posted by: AD at May 07, 2016 11:59 PM (VtV1E)

I don't think there's anything stopping bigamy and polygamy now. It's just a matter of time before a case ends up in the courts in which three or more people want to get married and the end result of the Supreme Court ruling is that they are allowed to do so. We (I mean, the Left) are simply destroying the foundations of our society. The end result is obviously not going to be pretty. I'm hoping things don't completely fall apart until after I kick the bucket.

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 12:06 AM (rtfSu)

203 Posted by: Commissar M at May 07, 2016 11:59 PM (eJ7Ky)

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Wow.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:07 AM (0LHZx)

204 i heard there was a secret chord

that david played to please the lord

Although I can not find the quote
I believe it was the brown note

Oh, and, evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 08, 2016 12:07 AM (T/cxb)

205 Those ChiComs has their shit together, I tells ya.

Erotic Banana-Eating Live streams are a total gateway drug!

Start there, and next thing you know, you're eating sushi off a hooker's belly and giving her champagne douches!

[AKA, WestPac '91]

Posted by: Sharkman at May 08, 2016 12:08 AM (CS7jF)

206 153
What about the right to refuse service?
A bartender should not be forced by the government to serve a pregnant woman alcohol.

Posted by: The Ass-Kicking Hat at May 07, 2016 11:36 PM
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Agreed.
The bar-owner should have the freedom to refuse to serve pregnant women alcohol.
They should also have the freedom to refuse to serve fattening foods or drinks to anyone chubby.
Being a nanny bartender may be obnoxious ---so obnoxious that I would avoid the place like the plague---- but it should not be illegal.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 08, 2016 12:08 AM (T/5A0)

207 From what I've seen/heard, polyamory relationships always leave one person left out and feeling underappreciated....so they look outside the relationship!

Posted by: VIvi at May 08, 2016 12:09 AM (11H2y)

208 I didn't (and don't) give a shit if two men want to get married. Same applies to 2 men and a woman, or 3 women or whatever. Won't affect me in the least.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:09 AM (0LHZx)

209 199 Richard Gere usually promotes his gerbils to the rank of rear admiral

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 08, 2016 12:05 AM (6FqZa)

I thought it was Rod Stewart?!? Oh, wait, he's the one that needed semen pumped from his stomach, right? Regardless, I'm sure it's just a matter of time before both those acts not only happen in real life with regularity but that the rest of us are considered bigots for not openly celebrating those acts. The new normal.

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 12:10 AM (rtfSu)

210
how they sell it to the perpetually angry triggered and traumatized queer feminist cadre is something I can't figure out.

Posted by: Commissar M at May 07, 2016 10:58 PM (eJ7Ky)
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Same way they sell all the Islamic atrocities against women: HOW DARE YOU JUDGE THEM?!

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 12:10 AM (5o5ek)

211 As long as they don't serve the wafer thin mints...

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 08, 2016 12:10 AM (6FqZa)

212 Jeff Buckley version is much better than Cohen.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 12:10 AM (VdICR)

213 Regarding the sidebar item regarding creditors taking a haircut on the National Debt....remember that sovereign debt is a solemn promise to tax the ever-loving crap out of someone in the future to make a bond payment.

This is all nice and easy when you're thinking it's going to be in the far future, and the victims will be generations yet unborn. But with the aging of the Baby Boomers and the fantastic increase in the debt, we're not going to make it into that happy future. Some sucker is going to be on the hook to face massive taxation in about ten years.

Will it be "The Rich", as Comrade Sanders proposes? I doubt it -- they can slide off to Belize or Geneva. Will it be "Corporations", as Nazi Pelosi proclaims? Well, corporate tax inversions are popular as a means for companies to slide off to Ireland -- and there's a datum or two about companies like Apple with huge cash balances outside the US -- but there's also the fact that taxing corporations makes them less competitive in a global world.

In a perfect world, this tax would fall upon the very cronies that are responsible for the National Debt -- Academia, the MSM, the foreigners who've had our taxpayer-funded military on speed-dial, the parasites at the UN, public-sector unions, bureaucrats, and the like.....but in the world we live in, The Ruling Class wouldn't think of taxing any of them. Instead, they think they're going to sock it to the middle class, good and hard. Which will work....until it doesn't.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 12:11 AM (EzgxV)

214 180 I've spent much of the evening in Eva Cassidy land on YouTube. The room gets a little dusty every time I listen to her sing.
Posted by: rickl at May 07, 2016 11:54 PM (sdi6R)

Whoa. Had never heard of her, but just listened to her rendition of Time After Time, and it makes the Cyndi Lauper version sound like satire. She's grasped what one could call the "Jerry Garcia Lesson:" virtuosity has its place, but emotion and timing comes first. Sad that she's no longer with us.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 12:12 AM (iMxBJ)

215 I didn't (and don't) give a shit if two men want to get married. Same applies to 2 men and a woman, or 3 women or whatever. Won't affect me in the least.

That indifferent attitude will change once you're forced to abandon your car in the traffic around the local school's Parent Teacher Night.

Posted by: derit at May 08, 2016 12:13 AM (OC+TJ)

216
who leaves their pet when evacuating? well, outside of new orleans anyway.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 07, 2016 10:30 PM (vb33c)
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If they were being bused out of there, they wouldn't be allowed to take pets. But if they just drove off without their pets, yeesh.

I once hosted two families during a fire. We had six dogs and seven cats, most of them strangers to each other. Really, that's how it outta be. Good times, good times.

Posted by: iforgot at May 08, 2016 12:14 AM (5o5ek)

217 208 I didn't (and don't) give a shit if two men want to get married. Same applies to 2 men and a woman, or 3 women or whatever. Won't affect me in the least.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:09 AM (0LHZx)

In a way that is absolutely true. And yet, do you get no feeling, no feeling at all, that such things will feature prominently when the future's version of Gibbon writes our country's story?

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 12:15 AM (iMxBJ)

218 Agreed.
The bar-owner should have the freedom to refuse to serve pregnant women alcohol.
They should also have the freedom to refuse to serve fattening foods or drinks to anyone chubby.
Being a nanny bartender may be obnoxious ---so obnoxious that I would avoid the place like the plague---- but it should not be illegal.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 08, 2016 12:08 AM (T/5A0)

Not comparable. In the first example, it isn't the woman ordering booze that's the problem, it's that her unborn kid is being harmed. In the second example, no one else is being harmed.

Posted by: The Uncomparable Hat at May 08, 2016 12:16 AM (vBeA5)

219 208 I didn't (and don't) give a shit if two men want to get married. Same applies to 2 men and a woman, or 3 women or whatever. Won't affect me in the least.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:09 AM (0LHZx)

Well, you will be made to passionately care about it, whether you are affected by it or not. Your "live and let live" attitude will not be sufficient in the minds of the Left. You will be forced to support it. Then, it won't be long (e.g., decade or two) before many citizens will be mocked and attacked for NOT engaging in a gay or polyamorous relationships themselves. It may seem far-fetched but look how far we've come in just a few years with Obama as President.

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 12:17 AM (rtfSu)

220 In a way that is absolutely true. And yet, do you get no feeling, no feeling at all, that such things will feature prominently when the future's version of Gibbon writes our country's story?

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 12:15 AM (iMxBJ)

We won't end like the Romans.

We'll end like the Hittites.

Posted by: Suppiluliuma II at May 08, 2016 12:17 AM (vBeA5)

221

If all the members of a polyamorous
relationship are willingly engaging in the relationship, how can it be
prevented considering we have now redefined marriage to include two
people of the same gender? Why does the relationship have to be between
only two people? Supporters of gay marriage never have a good response
to that question. That's one of many reasons why you don't legalize gay
marriage. Two people of the same gender want to be together, fine, but
don't expect our government or society to celebrate it or place it
legally (or morally) on the same level as heterosexual marriage.

Posted by: Slappy at May 07, 2016 11:54 PM (rtfSu)

Many on the left saw that as a feature, not a bug. There were plenty of articles with the same general message, "Gays aren't monogamous, so gay marriages won't be either, and thus heterosexuals have to get over their expectations of monogamy as well."

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 12:17 AM (fC9RO)

222 #34 Howard Tayler (Schlock Mercenary) is singing its praises.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 08, 2016 12:18 AM (Kucy5)

223 I don't think bartenders should be given responsibility to determine a customer's rights. Our government wants to protect the unborn? Do they have bartenders at the Planned Parenthood receptionist desk?

"No Mam, you cannot have a beer, but you can go to the next window."

Posted by: OldDominionMom at May 08, 2016 12:20 AM (GzDYP)

224 @213

"Cooth" speak truth!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 12:20 AM (kP16F)

225 A Gibbon will write our history. Or some other damn dirty ape.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 12:21 AM (k4M/B)

226 How's the Arizona trip going?
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 08, 2016 12:05 AM

Swell. It's just sad to see the changes in aged loved ones when you can't visit in person often. They moved to AZ 19 yrs ago and used to be able to visit us in IL and we'd come here. As Blanco observed, they are no longer capable of that so we are down to once a yr get togethers.

It's reassuring they had the good sense to go into asst living w/ their health conditions. We've realized on this visit they are good for about 3 hours at a time, so we visit around lunchtime, give them a break in the afternoon and then do 3 hrs in the evening.

Today we went to lunch and then to the Western Museum in Wickenburg. That was 5 hrs and they were beat. Back for dinner and trashing the politicians, LOL.

They love seeing their dau, and I guess me. LOL We will indulge in the Mother's Day buffet at their place tomorrow. Sounds good, but they always obsess about any bad meal they've ever had there. LOL

It's good to see them and know they are doing as well as they are and are safe.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 12:23 AM (PzqA/)

227 That indifferent attitude will change once you're forced to abandon your car in the traffic around the local school's Parent Teacher Night.
Posted by: derit at May 08, 2016 12:13 AM (OC+TJ)

____

Touche

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:24 AM (0LHZx)

228 America, fuck yea!

Posted by: Jake at May 08, 2016 12:25 AM (brrjm)

229 Slappy, you hit the nail on the head! There's nothing in the Obergfell decision that seems to limit it's reach to only same-sex couples. In fact, there's a female author who's name escapes me at the moment who is in a poly "marriage" and has been pushing this exact line for the past year or more. A number of Conservatives also noted that the push for national gay marriage became a push for "marriage equality" in the two or three years prior to Obergfell. And there's the "all love is equal" slogan. Why should this only apply to hetero and gay couples while otherwise maintaining other legal strictures on marriage such as age, number of spouses or even relationships of spouses? Really, if all love is equal, how can any love be unequal?

Posted by: Commissar M at May 08, 2016 12:25 AM (eJ7Ky)

230 *Wonders how many boomers alive today (or here tonight) have positioned themselves to be able to tell the gub'mint to stuff their Social Security and Medicare handouts...*

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 12:26 AM (kP16F)

231 From what I've seen/heard, polyamory relationships always leave one person left out and feeling underappreciated.

Or in a normal relationship, for that matter. Sorry, I didn't mean 'normal'! I meant primitively Neanderthal!

Posted by: t-bird at May 08, 2016 12:27 AM (yddCj)

232 repost
............
just an observation.

there is a fuckload of out of state plates in Boise.

Not sure what that means.

Not the normal California/Washington either.

some fucko turned onto my street, clearly lost, with Delaware plates.

seen Iowa, Minnesota, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, Missouri

Posted by: Jake at May 08, 2016 12:27 AM (brrjm)

233 Well, you will be made to passionately care about it, whether you are affected by it or not. Your "live and let live" attitude will not be sufficient in the minds of the Left. You will be forced to support it. Then, it won't be long (e.g., decade or two) before many citizens will be mocked and attacked for NOT engaging in a gay or polyamorous relationships themselves. It may seem far-fetched but look how far we've come in just a few years with Obama as President.
Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 12:17 AM (rtfSu)

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Gay marriage has been around for 15 years or so. I think the first state was Hawaii in 2000ish. And amazingly enough, as far as I can tell nobody has forced me to gat marry anyone. It's all in your mind dude.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:27 AM (0LHZx)

234 221

Many on the left saw that as a feature, not a bug. There were plenty of articles with the same general message, "Gays aren't monogamous, so gay marriages won't be either, and thus heterosexuals have to get over their expectations of monogamy as well."

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 12:17 AM (fC9RO)

Wait until we see all these kids who are the children of gay couples but weren't adopted (i.e., gay couple had child using a donor(s) and modern medicine). Obviously, only one of the two "parents" are biologically their parent -- and in some cases, neither are -- so how messed up is that kid going to be? Adopted children face enough difficulties but we're now creating another group of children in which there will be a high percentage of individuals with mental and emotional problems due to their family situations. As if our society didn't have enough problems.

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 12:27 AM (rtfSu)

235 I didn't (and don't) give a shit if two men want to get married. Same applies to 2 men and a woman, or 3 women or whatever. Won't affect me in the least.

My concerns are:

1. Rich guys will hoard all the hot/smart/funny chicks (Yeah, I know, that sounds petty. Still, that's a recipe for social unrest.)

2. I can't think of any polygamous societies that I'd like to copy. Can I say it's because of polygamy? Nope, at least not entirely. But then there's the "Chesterton's fence" thing. You don't know where the thread you're pulling leads to and you should be damn sure before you pull it. We're being pretty cavalier about that lately.

Posted by: AD at May 08, 2016 12:28 AM (VtV1E)

236 219: Then, it won't be long (e.g., decade or two) before many citizens will be mocked and attacked for NOT engaging in a gay or polyamorous relationships themselves. It may seem far-fetched but look how far we've come in just a few years with Obama as President.
Posted by: Slappy

Hey, it worked well for us!

Posted by: Sodom and Gomorrah at May 08, 2016 12:28 AM (pY+s4)

237 Won't affect me in the least.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
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Really? Do you suppose that the nature of society has no impact on you? That you can live in isolation? Even that is an impact.

The story of civil society is the story of man's efforts to control his basest instincts. The sundry mores and taboos which have evolved over thousands of years are not arbitrary, but are the glue which make civilization possible and practical. We abandon them at our own risk. Look around.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 12:29 AM (mxCgt)

238 A Gibbon will write our history.

What a bunch of freaks...

Posted by: Gibbon of Christmas Future at May 08, 2016 12:29 AM (ZxmMG)

239 As long as everyone involved is an adult, who gives a fuck who wants to marry whom? Man, woman, woman, man, man. If it's your thing, whatever. I just don't give a fuck what adults do in the privacy of their homes. I never understand why anyone else does.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:30 AM (0LHZx)

240 Isn't Idaho the state without compulsory auto insurance? Maybe all those out-of-state people are looking to cut out of Flo and the gecko's racket

Posted by: derit at May 08, 2016 12:31 AM (OC+TJ)

241
As long as everyone involved is an adult

What's an adult?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 12:31 AM (k4M/B)

242 238 A Gibbon will write our history.

What a bunch of freaks...
Posted by: Gibbon of Christmas Future at May 08, 2016 12:29 AM (ZxmMG)

He'll probably find a way to blame the Christians again.

Posted by: AD at May 08, 2016 12:32 AM (VtV1E)

243 230 *Wonders how many boomers alive today (or here tonight) have positioned themselves to be able to tell the gub'mint to stuff their Social Security and Medicare handouts...*

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 12:26 AM (kP16F)

Some astounding percentage would have to hock something to cover an unanticipated $400 expenditure.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 12:32 AM (EzgxV)

244 233

Gay marriage has been around for 15 years or so. I think the first state was Hawaii in 2000ish. And amazingly enough, as far as I can tell nobody has forced me to gat marry anyone. It's all in your mind dude.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:27 AM (0LHZx)

Do you really think it's all in my mind? Have you not been paying attention? Plus, I didn't say anything about someone forcing you to marry someone of the same gender. I said you would be forced to care more about it than you apparently do. I also said you'd be mocked for not at least considering alternative relationships. Your "15 years or so" means nothing considering how far we've come in the past few years. Maybe I'm wrong about the way everything will go, but are you willing to bet something of value on that? I'm not.

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 12:32 AM (rtfSu)

245 Really? Do you suppose that the nature of society has no impact on you? That you can live in isolation? Even that is an impact.

The story of civil society is the story of man's efforts to control his basest instincts. The sundry mores and taboos which have evolved over thousands of years are not arbitrary, but are the glue which make civilization possible and practical. We abandon them at our own risk. Look around.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 12:29 AM (mxCgt)

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Of course nature of society has an impact. But the fact 2 men can marry each other is a benign impact. That's the point.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:32 AM (0LHZx)

246 241 What's an adult?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 12:31 AM (k4M/B)

Hint: there aren't any attending Oberlin, or drawing a paycheck from there.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 12:33 AM (iMxBJ)

247 I never understand why anyone else does.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
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Perhaps they are concerned about maintaining a stable society.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 12:33 AM (mxCgt)

248 Do you really think it's all in my mind? Have you not been paying attention? Plus, I didn't say anything about someone forcing you to marry someone of the same gender. I said you would be forced to care more about it than you apparently do. I also said you'd be mocked for not at least considering alternative relationships. Your "15 years or so" means nothing considering how far we've come in the past few years. Maybe I'm wrong about the way everything will go, but are you willing to bet something of value on that? I'm not.
Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 12:32 AM (rtfSu)

____

Anything's possible I suppose. But I'm about 99.999% sure that I will never be forced to marry a man, or marry multiple women.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:33 AM (0LHZx)

249 Obergefell... The Law of "Unintended" Consequences... The mad dash for age-of-consent reform in the Netherlands, Canada, etc. after the legalisation of homosexual "marriage" in those places... Didn't get much press.

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 12:34 AM (kP16F)

250 Gay marriage has been around for 15 years or so. I think the first state was Hawaii in 2000ish. And amazingly enough, as far as I can tell nobody has forced me to gat marry anyone. It's all in your mind dude.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:27 AM (0LHZx)

First state with Gay marriage was Massachusetts.

In Hawaii, their Supreme Court (at the time) said marriage or domestic partnership.

It was only later when their Supreme Court came back and said "LOL JK, it's gotta be marriage".

Interstingly enough, I know plenty of straight couples that opted for the domestic partnership over marriage.

Posted by: The Marriagable Hat at May 08, 2016 12:35 AM (vBeA5)

251 A Gibbon will write our history.
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Give me enough time & a bunch of bananas and I'll write Shakespeare.

Posted by: A random monkey at May 08, 2016 12:36 AM (WFzg2)

252 Anything's possible I suppose. But I'm about 99.999% sure that I will never be forced to marry a man, or marry multiple women.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:33 AM (0LHZx)

Do you think you'll have same or a tougher time finding a woman to marry in a polygamous society?

Posted by: AD at May 08, 2016 12:36 AM (VtV1E)

253 249 Obergefell... The Law of "Unintended" Consequences... The mad dash for age-of-consent reform in the Netherlands, Canada, etc. after the legalisation of homosexual "marriage" in those places... Didn't get much press.
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 12:34 AM (kP16F)

____

Canada legalized SSM in 2005.

And in 2008 the age of consent in Canada was **INCREASED** from 14 to 16.

But do go on....

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:37 AM (0LHZx)

254 Isn't Idaho the state without compulsory auto insurance? Maybe all those out-of-state people are looking to cut out of Flo and the gecko's racket
Posted by: derit at May 08, 2016 12:31 AM (OC+TJ)

...

Dude, you're a local, just waaay norte

These fucks don't realize you can get new plates for $80 a year and not get road skimmed by the locals.

Posted by: Jake at May 08, 2016 12:37 AM (brrjm)

255 239 As long as everyone involved is an adult, who gives a fuck who wants to marry whom? Man, woman, woman, man, man. If it's your thing, whatever. I just don't give a fuck what adults do in the privacy of their homes. I never understand why anyone else does.

If it would stay private, that would be tolerable. When your shoving it in my face demanding acceptance and praise and threatening my job and home unless I do, then we got a problem.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 08, 2016 12:38 AM (pY+s4)

256 Same applies to 2 men and a woman, or 3 women or whatever. Won't affect me in the least.

Polygamy is destabilizing on society, and that does affect you.

Women are viewed as a commodity to be collected. Older men, who have the wealth or power to take more than one wife, marry again and again, thus denying younger men access to the marriage market. There's pressure for women and girls at increasingly younger ages to be married off in order to meet the demands of the market, often pushing girls as young as 13 or 14 into relationships with older men. These young women are also at the mercy of older wives who have greater influence, and may not be happy about the competition for resources/affection. For older women, the ability of a husband to take younger wives without divorcing his first wife reduces her power in the relationship, since he can push her aside much more easily. And an older woman has fewer options than an older man.

As for a situation where a woman takes multiple husbands, those will be a lot rarer since a) most men aren't going to be willing to share, and b) it creates instability that most women don't want. So you'll have an imbalance in the availability of women for marriage versus men. And where it does happen, it's going to horrible for young children. The strange men in mom's bed are unlikely to care about any children that they have no biological connection to, or even worse may actively abuse those children, both physically and sexually.

You want to see what non-monogamous societies look like? Fundamentalist Mormon compounds, and the ghetto.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 12:39 AM (fC9RO)

257 As long as everyone involved is an adult

What's an adult?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 12:31 AM (k4M/B)

A pre-teen girl who is pregnant is considered by the law to be fully competent to make "reproductive choices".

Yet they are not considered competent to get pregnant in the first place.

With that contradiction, which position will be the first to fall when the Left is in charge.

The Left won't go full pedo at first, but establish ephebophilia and hebephilia as "sexual orientations" akin to homosexuality.

Many forget that the pedophiles and homosexuals were allies in the '70's and '80's, especially in places like Germany.

Once Gays found an avenue to acceptance, they droped the pedophiles and tried to scrub history like one of Stalin's air-bruth artists.

Posted by: Not into Francine at May 08, 2016 12:40 AM (vBeA5)

258 In a perfect world, this tax would fall upon the very cronies that are responsible for the National Debt -- Academia, the MSM, the foreigners who've had our taxpayer-funded military on speed-dial, the parasites at the UN, public-sector unions, bureaucrats, and the like.....but in the world we live in, The Ruling Class wouldn't think of taxing any of them. Instead, they think they're going to sock it to the middle class, good and hard. Which will work....until it doesn't.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 12:11 AM

Well said. Now since you and the fianc�e hope to flee Failafornia you could move to my congressional district and I'd vote for you in a heartbeat.

Wait! I live in IL, nevermind. We might be next bankruptcy after PR.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 12:40 AM (PzqA/)

259 Here's a live Leonard Cohen rendition of "Tower of Song" that gives me chills. No, I can't explain why.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zdp5aou

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 12:40 AM (iMxBJ)

260 As long as everyone involved is an adult

So mandatory sterilization & no adoptions, then ...

Posted by: Adriane the Realist ... at May 08, 2016 12:40 AM (AoK0a)

261 Do you think you'll have same or a tougher time finding a woman to marry in a polygamous society?
Posted by: AD at May 08, 2016 12:36 AM (VtV1E)

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Not sure if this is a serios question or not, but I'll answer it.

First off I'm happily married, 10+ years, so I don't see it coming up as an issue any time soon.

But let's say I was singly, no I don't think it would have much of an effect. Allowing poly marriage won't turn us into a "poly marriage society". It'll be a 1-2% thing, just like SSM. And really any woman that wants to be married to 2 dudes, is a woman I don't want anything to do with in the first place. This way, it's making it easier for me to avoid them.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:40 AM (0LHZx)

262 why the world is fucked part 7

Gay pride parades.
Does any one see straight pride parades?

nope?

how come?

Posted by: Jake at May 08, 2016 12:41 AM (brrjm)

263 Do you think you'll have same or a tougher time finding a woman to marry in a polygamous society?

My odds stay at zero, but you make an interesting point. Violence rises.

Posted by: t-bird at May 08, 2016 12:41 AM (9mTYi)

264 250 Gay marriage has been around for 15 years or so. I think the first state was Hawaii in 2000ish. And amazingly enough, as far as I can tell nobody has forced me to gat marry anyone. It's all in your mind dude.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:27 AM (0LHZx)

First state with Gay marriage was Massachusetts.

In Hawaii, their Supreme Court (at the time) said marriage or domestic partnership.

It was only later when their Supreme Court came back and said "LOL JK, it's gotta be marriage".

Interstingly enough, I know plenty of straight couples that opted for the domestic partnership over marriage.

Posted by: The Marriagable Hat at May 08, 2016 12:35 AM (vBeA5)

We're one of them -- with "marriage" being redefined every six months, it's best to stick with relationships you understand.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 12:41 AM (EzgxV)

265 Of course nature of society has an impact. But the fact 2 men can marry each other is a benign impact. That's the point.
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I don't believe that you are that naive.
'Family' and 'marriage' are about much more than a signed piece of paper. It has to do with blood kin/relationships, children. Redefining 'marriage' to a piece of paper relationship between two men is to deny the fact that marriage and all that it entails has evolved as a family relationship. It is a lie.

To airily adopt the attitude that "It doesn't affect me" is to deny an obligation to normalcy and more importantly, to stable, civil society.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 12:41 AM (mxCgt)

266 oy ... chores.

Posted by: Adriane the Realist ... at May 08, 2016 12:42 AM (AoK0a)

267 248

Anything's possible I suppose. But I'm about 99.999% sure that I will never be forced to marry a man, or marry multiple women.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:33 AM (0LHZx)

Probably not. But you will be forced to care and openly support gay marriage and polyamorous marriage or your life will be made difficult. Aren't you seeing what's happening in the news? In some places, men only have to say that they are identifying as a woman today and they can use a women's room, with women and young girls in there. Did you ever think that would happen? And if you oppose it, like Curt Schilling, you have your livelihood destroyed. Are you not seeing this? Our society is changing and it's not for the better.

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 12:42 AM (rtfSu)

268 Canada legalized SSM in 2005.

And in 2008 the age of consent in Canada was **INCREASED** from 14 to 16.

But do go on....

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:37 AM (0LHZx)

Considering that 25 year olds are still "children" under Obamacare (and many act like children well thereafter), this isn't surprising.

The age of consent is higher around most of the world than it has ever been in the past.

In Mexico, many states have lower limits of 14 or "puberty".

Heck, in the 19th century, the age of consent in Delaware was SEVEN.

Posted by: Not into Francine at May 08, 2016 12:43 AM (vBeA5)

269 you know in a poly society you need to keep your women safe, so that means covered and escorted.

otherwise some dude will shoot you and steal your wife.

next question?

Posted by: Jake at May 08, 2016 12:44 AM (brrjm)

270 Probably not. But you will be forced to care and openly support gay marriage and polyamorous marriage or your life will be made difficult. Aren't you seeing what's happening in the news? In some places, men only have to say that they are identifying as a woman today and they can use a women's room, with women and young girls in there. Did you ever think that would happen? And if you oppose it, like Curt Schilling, you have your livelihood destroyed. Are you not seeing this? Our society is changing and it's not for the better.
Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 12:42 AM (rtfSu)

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But I already do support it. So it won't change for me.

Did I ever think a man could use a woman's bathroom? Hello? Didn't you ever see Ally McBeal? I kid, I kid.

And no I don't agree with what happened to Curt Shilling.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:46 AM (0LHZx)

271 Polyarmory?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 07, 2016 10:38 PM (k4M/B)

She wrote books about lots of cats

Posted by: Kindltot at May 08, 2016 12:46 AM (ry34m)

272 Has a single gay rights organisation in the US 'come out', as it were, in explicit support of existing AoC laws?

Canada Egale and Vereniging Martijn in the Netherlands are publicly advocated for lowering their countries' AoC...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 12:48 AM (kP16F)

273 Posted by: Not into Francine at May 08, 2016 12:43 AM (vBeA5)

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I was responding to someone who insinuated that post SSM legalization, Canada decreased the age of consent so gays could marry boys. I pointed out the exact opposite happened.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:49 AM (0LHZx)

274 #49

Didn't Kate Winslet already make that movie?

Posted by: Epobirs at May 08, 2016 12:49 AM (IdCqF)

275 But let's say I was singly, no I don't think it would have much of an effect. Allowing poly marriage won't turn us into a "poly marriage society". It'll be a 1-2% thing, just like SSM.

I just don't get why you think so. I can't of a single polygamous society where it's been anywhere near that low.

And really any woman that wants to be married to 2 dudes, is a woman I don't want anything to do with in the first place. This way, it's making it easier for me to avoid them.

I don't think the problem would be women married to do dude. I just think the competition would be far fiercer. It'd be tougher to get a woman you want.

Posted by: AD at May 08, 2016 12:49 AM (VtV1E)

276 But I already do support it. So it won't change for me.
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I see.
Maybe it isn't all about you.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 12:50 AM (mxCgt)

277 why is big homo in my ONT?

??

fookin homo's

Posted by: Jake at May 08, 2016 12:50 AM (brrjm)

278 I don't think the problem would be women married to do dude. I just think the competition would be far fiercer. It'd be tougher to get a woman you want.
Posted by: AD at May 08, 2016 12:49 AM (VtV1E)

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I just don't think most women would want to share a husband. If more than 1% of them would even consider the possibility, I'd be shocked. And you'd have to be one crazy mother fucker to put up with 2 wives. So I really don't see t his as anything more than a fringe movement.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:51 AM (0LHZx)

279 The problem with polyarmory is the need to keep too many kinds of ammo around.

Posted by: Splunge at May 08, 2016 12:51 AM (iMxBJ)

280 277 why is big homo in my ONT?

??

fookin homo's

Posted by: Jake at May 08, 2016 12:50 AM (brrjm)

"Big Homo"? Isn't that Harvey Fierstein's nickname?

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 12:52 AM (rtfSu)

281 258 In a perfect world, this tax would fall upon the very cronies that are responsible for the National Debt -- Academia, the MSM, the foreigners who've had our taxpayer-funded military on speed-dial, the parasites at the UN, public-sector unions, bureaucrats, and the like.....but in the world we live in, The Ruling Class wouldn't think of taxing any of them. Instead, they think they're going to sock it to the middle class, good and hard. Which will work....until it doesn't.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 12:11 AM

Well said. Now since you and the fiancee hope to flee Failafornia you could move to my congressional district and I'd vote for you in a heartbeat.

Wait! I live in IL, nevermind. We might be next bankruptcy after PR.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 12:40 AM (PzqA/)

The Administration proclaimed loudly and clearly that it was going to screw somebody over for TRILLIONS in order to pour money down the hole that was Solyndra; to let the IRS stonewall Tea Partiers and fish for information to intimidate their contributors; to finance the EPA killing the coal industry (and the Animas Canyon); to party with celebrities in the White House; and to travel around the world to badmouth US citizens. It would be the height of folly to imagine that citizens will meekly pay it when the bill comes due.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 12:52 AM (EzgxV)

282 I see.
Maybe it isn't all about you.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 12:50 AM (mxCgt)

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Didn't say it was. But apparently I am only allowed to give **MY** opinion on how things will affect you, not me.

Duly noted.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:53 AM (0LHZx)

283 218---Not comparable. In the first example, it isn't the woman ordering booze that's the problem, it's that her unborn kid is being harmed. In the second example, no one else is being harmed.
Posted by: The Uncomparable Hat at May 08, 2016 12:16 AM (vBeA5)
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"Unborn kid?" Clump of cells. Not a person, according to no less an authority than Queen Hillary, who is only mouthing the doctrines of the Enlightened Class.

But even if you are an anti-woman bigot who thinks it's a kid, how is it being harmed? By a glass of wine? A beer? One drink? Hardly.

Now personally speaking, I'd like to cut a pregnant woman off after two drinks, nanny that I am. I'd like that freedom.
But how do I know she's pregnant?
Most women aren't obviously so until at least four months along and alcohol is MUCH more dangerous in early pregnancy than late.
If I really, really want to be sure kids aren't harmed, I shouldn't serve any woman of child-bearing age more than one drink. Period.

It's hard being a nanny --- which is why I think the law should butt out of it. Let the mothers and the bar-tenders use their own discretion.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 08, 2016 12:53 AM (T/5A0)

284 I don't see socialism as anything more than a fringe movement.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 12:54 AM (k4M/B)

285 peace out

Posted by: Jake at May 08, 2016 12:54 AM (brrjm)

286 The problem with polyarmory is the need to keep too many kinds of ammo around.
Posted by: Splunge
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I know, right?
6.5 Creedmore? WTF? This is getting complicated.
*recalls a time when a box of .270's covered all needs*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 12:54 AM (mxCgt)

287 Some perspective:

about 2M weddings take place annually in the US

# of gay weddings between June (after SCOTUS) and Nov 2015: 27K. Extrapolate that to a full year and it's 50K give or take

50K vs 2.1M

But yeah, it's like the end of the world man.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:56 AM (0LHZx)

288 Canada had to raise[/i/ its Aoc after it legalised homosexual "marriage" and a virtual 'open season' on minors for adult homosexuals ensued. Some provinces had incredibly low AoC laws until reform... I never claimed the opposite!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 12:56 AM (kP16F)

289 I'm planning on taking a moment to remember my dear
Grandma. Before she passed, I used to send silly gift boxes and such.
Now, I can only send my thoughts.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 07, 2016 11:10 PM (EzgxV)

I went to help a friend help an old friend she calls "Grandma" do yardwork today, but we couldn't find the parts we needed and the store has to order them.

Grandma has mentioned that she told her kids and grand-kids to stop sending Starbucks cards and MacDonalds cards because she feels bad giving them away, and to not bother sending flowers, just send money, because the flowers die.

Today she went through the mail while we were sitting with her on her back porch, and the cards from her grand-kids all had a dollar bill in them

Posted by: Kindltot at May 08, 2016 12:57 AM (ry34m)

290 To airily adopt the attitude that "It doesn't affect me" is to deny an obligation to normalcy and more importantly, to stable, civil society.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 12:41 AM

And that right there is why Mike Hammer makes a world of sense compared to Mr Moo Moo. TY MH

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 12:58 AM (PzqA/)

291 288 Canada had to raise[/i/ its Aoc after it legalised homosexual "marriage" and a virtual 'open season' on minors for adult homosexuals ensued. Some provinces had incredibly low AoC laws until reform... I never claimed the opposite!
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 12:56 AM (kP16F)

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So before gays could get married, they didn't prey on kids. But once they could get married, it was "open season" on kids.

Uh-huh.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:59 AM (0LHZx)

292 So it won't change for me.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
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Maybe it isn't all about you.
Posted by Mike Hammer

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Didn't say it was.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
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Oh, sorry, it certainly looked that way.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 01:00 AM (mxCgt)

293 282

Didn't say it was. But apparently I am only allowed to give **MY** opinion on how things will affect you, not me.

Duly noted.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:53 AM (0LHZx)

Well, at the heart of your defense is that gay marriage doesn't affect you so why should you care who other people marry. Isn't that correct?

A lot of things happen to other people that don't directly impact me (e.g., crimes on the other side of the country), but I care enough to worry about their impact on society. That's all many of us are saying. Significant cultural changes are very difficult to reverse, which is why many of us are now speaking openly and forcefully against some of the destructive changes that have happened and may happen in the future. Others did it before us to ensure that our society would thrive. That's all many of us want to happen in the future. Simply throwing your hands up in the air and saying "live and let live" is a certain path to destruction, whether on marriage issues or some other cultural issue that hasn't come up yet but will in the future.

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 01:01 AM (rtfSu)

294 Was away a bit, came back, scanned comments.

The main topic is polygamous incestuous pederastic furries?

Happy Mothers' Day ONT edition, I see.

*backs away from blog*

Will check back in again after a while... maybe...

Posted by: mindful webworker - dadperson at May 08, 2016 01:02 AM (5a8XA)

295 Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 01:01 AM (rtfSu)

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Fine. Fair enough. A better way to say it is I don't think SSM or Poly Marriage (PM??) will impact society in an adverse way. And since I am part of society, by inheritance, it won't impact me in a negative way.

I realize I am in the minority here, and that's fine. I am simply giving you my opinion.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 01:04 AM (0LHZx)

296 The beginning of AoC reform in Canada:

http://tinyurl.com/zkc5zpr

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 01:05 AM (kP16F)

297 Heck, in the 19th century, the age of consent in Delaware was SEVEN.
Posted by: Not into Francine at May 08, 2016 12:43 AM

Wait! What? OK give us some evidence of that.

Maybe you are confused w/ 7th century Muslims? Well, or just "conservative Muslims" that follow the Koran faithfully.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 01:08 AM (PzqA/)

298 Speaking of wedding I got invited to one this summer. My wife's friend who is getting re-married. Yeay!!! It gets better.....the wedding is in Mexico. My wife will be a bridesmaid. Dress is easily going to be $300, flights $1000, hotel another $1000. Present $250. Double yay!!

Didn't it used to be that second marriages were low key affairs? When did the second wedding start out doing the 1st wedding?

This is where I want marriage reform. You get one shot at the big expensive (for the guests) wedding. After that, keep it simple and local.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 01:08 AM (0LHZx)

299 No safe harbor
no sanctuary

Posted by: derit at May 08, 2016 01:08 AM (OC+TJ)

300 If Colombia wants the place, they can walk in and take it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 07, 2016 11:54 PM (6FqZa)

I wondered a while ago what would happen if Western departments of Venezuela petitioned Bogota for admittance to the republic.

I don't think Colombia wants it. Maybe they will create buffer states.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 08, 2016 01:09 AM (ry34m)

301 Oh, I should mention for the benefit of those people here who are gay or are not "so cons" and support gay marriage. I'm not anti-gay or anti-gay marriage. I oppose the big sweeping constitutional overhaul through judicial fiat that Obergfell represents. I believe that this is a statutory rather than constitutional question. Rather than make the case to the American people, winning hearts and minds and changing laws at the state level, we've gotten "Fuck you haters, we win!" Sure, it accomplishes the task quickly but it never quells the debate. It leaves people angry and more convinced that their voices and establishes traditions can be cast aside at a whim. People on both sides of the battle realize that their "free society" is a thinly veiled dictatorship. And if that's the case, we want to install and perpetuate the dictator(s) who best represent our interests. Who, in fact, can best tell our opponents "Fuck you, we win!"

Please feel free to draw your own conclusions from that.

Posted by: Commissar M at May 08, 2016 01:09 AM (eJ7Ky)

302 296 The beginning of AoC reform in Canada:

http://tinyurl.com/zkc5zpr
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 01:05 AM (kP16F)

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And this had what to do with SSM exactly?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 01:10 AM (0LHZx)

303 287 Some perspective:

about 2M weddings take place annually in the US

# of gay weddings between June (after SCOTUS) and Nov 2015: 27K. Extrapolate that to a full year and it's 50K give or take

50K vs 2.1M

But yeah, it's like the end of the world man.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:56 AM (0LHZx)

Here's another perspective. On the heels of gay marriage being legalized, we're now seeing parents (most liberals, I would imagine) supporting their young children (e.g., under 10 years old) transitioning to the other gender, including having the necessary surgery. How messed up do you think many of those kids are going to be when they get older, especially when they see that their gender confusion was simply a childhood phase?

We're also now being made to feel like we're bigots if we don't want men who simply say that they're identifying as females today (wow, talk about a commitment) to use the ladies room. I don't want my wife or female relatives being put in that situation, especially if the guy's a predator looking to sexual assault a woman. Even if he isn't a predator, why should they be forced into a situation like that?

Many, like yourself, argue against a slippery slope, but we're living it right now.

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 01:11 AM (rtfSu)

304 I'm not anti-gay or anti-gay marriage. I oppose the big sweeping constitutional overhaul through judicial fiat that Obergfell represents. I believe that this is a statutory rather than constitutional question.

_____

I agree. I hated that SCOTUS dictated this vs state legislatures. Within 15 years most if not all states would have legalized SSM sans court rulings.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 01:12 AM (0LHZx)

305 I didn't (and don't) give a shit if two men want to
get married. Same applies to 2 men and a woman, or 3 women or whatever.
Won't affect me in the least.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:09 AM (0LHZx)

"As is often the case between human beings and animals
A close bond of affection can develop
And I became increasingly close to a camel I named Dimitri
Ah, dear Dimitri

No one can really understand the relationship between a man and his camel
As was the case with the army doctors and my superiors
Who sent me to convalesce in the German Democratic Republic."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-95Tgxc84z4

Posted by: Kindltot at May 08, 2016 01:14 AM (ry34m)

306 Here's another perspective. On the heels of gay marriage being legalized, we're now seeing parents (most liberals, I would imagine) supporting their young children (e.g., under 10 years old) transitioning to the other gender, including having the necessary surgery. How messed up do you think many of those kids are going to be when they get older, especially when they see that their gender confusion was simply a childhood phase?

We're also now being made to feel like we're bigots if we don't want men who simply say that they're identifying as females today (wow, talk about a commitment) to use the ladies room. I don't want my wife or female relatives being put in that situation, especially if the guy's a predator looking to sexual assault a woman. Even if he isn't a predator, why should they be forced into a situation like that?

Many, like yourself, argue against a slippery slope, but we're living it right now.
Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 01:11 AM (rtfSu)

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Those parents doing that shit to 10 year old kids.....it's fucked up. But there were fucked up parents well before SSM was legalized. As for predators in bathrooms pretending to be trans, has there actually been a case of this happening?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 01:15 AM (0LHZx)

307 Climate change models, what can't they do?

Posted by: derit at May 08, 2016 01:16 AM (OC+TJ)

308 I just don't think most women would want to share a husband. If more than 1% of them would even consider the possibility, I'd be shocked. And you'd have to be one crazy mother fucker to put up with 2 wives. So I really don't see t his as anything more than a fringe movement.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 12:51 AM

As is the % of trangenders. Yet we have the entire MSM squalking about a NC law and the DOJ threatening to withhold millions of $$$ from NC. Funny how these small, fringe groups get to dictate the agenda.

Maybe it's because people like you say what does it matter, doesn't affect me. Then they move on to the next weirdo micominority cause de jour. You think they're gonna quit cause you give into them and the desire to destroy civilized western society.

Read Cloward/Piven and Alinsky. We've elected one disciple of that genre, about to elect another in the person of Crooked Hillary.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 01:17 AM (PzqA/)

309 Those parents doing that shit to 10 year old
kids.....it's fucked up. But there were fucked up parents well before
SSM was legalized. As for predators in bathrooms pretending to be trans,
has there actually been a case of this happening?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 01:15 AM (0LHZx)

Is that now what they call an affirmative defense?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 08, 2016 01:18 AM (T78UI)

310 301 Oh, I should mention for the benefit of those people here who are gay or are not "so cons" and support gay marriage. I'm not anti-gay or anti-gay marriage. I oppose the big sweeping constitutional overhaul through judicial fiat that Obergfell represents. I believe that this is a statutory rather than constitutional question. Rather than make the case to the American people, winning hearts and minds and changing laws at the state level, we've gotten "Fuck you haters, we win!" Sure, it accomplishes the task quickly but it never quells the debate. It leaves people angry and more convinced that their voices and establishes traditions can be cast aside at a whim. People on both sides of the battle realize that their "free society" is a thinly veiled dictatorship. And if that's the case, we want to install and perpetuate the dictator(s) who best represent our interests. Who, in fact, can best tell our opponents "Fuck you, we win!"

Please feel free to draw your own conclusions from that.

Posted by: Commissar M at May 08, 2016 01:09 AM (eJ7Ky)

Great points. That's another major problem with what's been happening, from ObamaCare, to same-sex marriage, to letting people choose their gender and being called a bigot for not agreeing, etc.: the majority of the public has simply been run over. If we had voted on these issues, I may not have agreed with the majority's decision but I would have at least had a say.

Instead, douchebag Obama and the rest of the fascist leaders from his political party have simply used every trick to get what they wanted, including using the courts to their advantage. This includes the immigration issue, too. It's frustrating for those of us who are getting steamrolled by -- all BS aside -- many people who don't even carry their own weight in our society but have so much influence over its future direction. I'm also worried about what happens in regards to the stability of our society if this tactic of simply steamrolling the opposition (i.e., conservatives) continues. I don't know about you but I don't want a return to the 1860s. It wasn't a particularly good time in our country's history.

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 01:23 AM (rtfSu)

311 Many, like yourself, argue against a slippery slope, but we're living it right now.

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 01:11 AM (rtfSu)

I said that the gay marriage crap would lead to polygamy as its next frontier. And while they are sorta advancing that one slowly, the way they went full throttle on the transsexual crap really threw me for a loop

Same thing, though. They've normalized one perversity, and they're starting on the next. Why? Because maximum perversity is the goal. They want to push as much decadence as they can so our civilization collapses and they can sweep in and rebuild society in their image.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 08, 2016 01:23 AM (HalrA)

312 Maybe it's because people like you say what does
it matter, doesn't affect me. Then they move on to the next weirdo
micominority cause de jour. You think they're gonna quit cause you give
into them and the desire to destroy civilized western society.

Read Cloward/Piven and Alinsky. We've elected one disciple of that
genre, about to elect another in the person of Crooked Hillary.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 01:17 AM (PzqA/)

Exactly. They don't quit. They never rest. Because the goal isn't the one thing they're championing this time. Each thing is a stepping stone on a much longer course, and that cause is the destruction of the entirety of Judeo-Christian culture.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 08, 2016 01:26 AM (HalrA)

313 The Administration proclaimed loudly and clearly that it was going to screw somebody over for TRILLIONS in order to pour money down the hole that was Solyndra; to let the IRS stonewall Tea Partiers and fish for information to intimidate their contributors; to finance the EPA killing the coal industry (and the Animas Canyon); to party with celebrities in the White House; and to travel around the world to badmouth US citizens. It would be the height of folly to imagine that citizens will meekly pay it when the bill comes due.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 12:52 AM

I think the bill has come due for the Rep party w/ the support for Trump and Cruz. Not so much for the general electorate in Nov unfortunately, Hilldabeast will prolly win.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 01:27 AM (PzqA/)

314 Sadly, all attempts to raise the AoC after the legalisation of homosexual "marriage" in Spain failed...

All AoC reforms in this century followed closely on the heels of "SSM" in each nation, so I'm calling not just correlation but causation as well!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 08, 2016 01:28 AM (kP16F)

315 Heck, in the 19th century, the age of consent in Delaware was SEVEN.
Posted by: Not into Francine at May 08, 2016 12:43 AM

Wait! What? OK give us some evidence of that.

Maybe you are confused w/ 7th century Muslims? Well, or just "conservative Muslims" that follow the Koran faithfully.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 01:08 AM (PzqA/)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yfzzyvy

In the rest of the country at the time, the age of consent was 10 or 12.

Of course, a 12 year old in 1880 was far more of an adult than a whiny college student of today.

Posted by: Not into Francine at May 08, 2016 01:29 AM (vBeA5)

316 Today I sent my old Lazy boy to it's next realm via fire. Probably a criminal now.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 01:30 AM (zLLv8)

317 306

Those parents doing that shit to 10 year old kids.....it's fucked up. But there were fucked up parents well before SSM was legalized. As for predators in bathrooms pretending to be trans, has there actually been a case of this happening?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 01:15 AM (0LHZx)

There have been a couple of incidents recently in the news, including one in which a man went into the ladies room and was taking photos with a camera. But that's besides the point anyway, as I can't stand the frequency argument. Incidents will never happen enough to convince people who supported or didn't care about the gender-neutral bathrooms to ever admit they were wrong. If there are five reported rapes in a month across the country, they will simply say that there were only five reported rapes (though that is five women who will be irreparably harmed, all of whom are loved by and special to someone). A stupid decision is a stupid decision. We're actually arguing about whether men and women should be using public restrooms together. I don't know about you, but I don't even use my home bathroom at the same time as my wife. Why would I want a strange man doing so?

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 01:31 AM (rtfSu)

318
Today I sent my old Lazy boy to it's next realm via fire. Probably a criminal now.
Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J.

You're probably the kind of person who would tear the tag off of a mattress.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 01:32 AM (k4M/B)

319 Because maximum perversity is the goal.

I don't think that's quite it, but you might find the difference academic. Ace said in the podcast that liberals try to uproot the status quo, and conservatives of different types will come together to stop it. He said that the liberal idiom is like a shark, it has to keep moving forward all the time.

Similar to what he said about McGuffins and liberal thinking. They don't do things to have them done, they do things to be the sort of person who does things.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 01:32 AM (VdICR)

320 Didn't it used to be that second marriages were low key affairs? When did the second wedding start out doing the 1st wedding?

This is where I want marriage reform. You get one shot at the big expensive (for the guests) wedding. After that, keep it simple and local.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 01:08 AM (0LHZx)

My ex has been married 3 times now (I was #2). Apparently for #3 they went all out as well.

I will concede that it might have been because new hubby at 42 had never been married, but knowing him now, I think a low key affair would have been fine by him.

As usual, my ex wanted to be the center of attention is my guess.

Posted by: Blano at May 08, 2016 01:33 AM (3eoPa)

321 316 Today I sent my old Lazy boy to it's next realm via fire. Probably a criminal now.
Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J.
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Little late for earth day

Posted by: A random monkey at May 08, 2016 01:34 AM (WFzg2)

322 You're probably the kind of person who would tear the tag off of a mattress.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.

But at least your recliner got a Viking funeral.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 01:34 AM (VdICR)

323 I don't see socialism as anything more than a fringe movement.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 12:54 AM

My ministers tell I should completely agree with this statement.

Posted by: Zombie Nicholas II (and millions of dead subjects)

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 01:35 AM (PzqA/)

324 Didn't it used to be that second marriages were low key affairs? When did the second wedding start out doing the 1st wedding?

This is where I want marriage reform. You get one shot at the big
expensive (for the guests) wedding. After that, keep it simple and
local.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 08, 2016 01:08 AM (0LHZx)

The idea now seems to be that the first marriage isn't expected to last.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 08, 2016 01:35 AM (fC9RO)

325 You're probably the kind of person who would tear the tag off of a mattress.>>>

I'm a situational reader so yes I may have done that.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 01:35 AM (zLLv8)

326 319 Because maximum perversity is the goal.

I don't think that's quite it, but you might find the difference academic. Ace said in the podcast that liberals try to uproot the status quo, and conservatives of different types will come together to stop it. He said that the liberal idiom is like a shark, it has to keep moving forward all the time.

Similar to what he said about McGuffins and liberal thinking. They don't do things to have them done, they do things to be the sort of person who does things.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 01:32 AM (VdICR)

They also do things to simply piss people off whom they don't like. Too many adult liberals have the maturity of a child or a young teenager and thus like to do things to aggravate others. They get a kick out of it. Worst of all, they never take any responsibility for their behavior. Now many of them with that attitude are becoming adults and having more of an influence on our society. That's why I'm very pessimistic about the country's future.

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 01:37 AM (rtfSu)

327 Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 01:32 AM (VdICR)

Progress for the sake of Progress, even if it's Progressing straight off a cliff.

I have no idea how they slipped it past all of the lefties who inevitably work on these things, but In Star Trek 6, as the Federation President is addressing the Klingons, he says "We must redefine progress to mean that just because we can do a thing, it doesn't mean we must do that thing."

That's actually a remarkably conservative thought to have come out of post-TOS Star Trek, and I think, one that really speaks to us where we're at right now. The real question is how do we do that redefining, and make the majority of neutrals question this inexorable drive of "progress" for its own sake?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 08, 2016 01:41 AM (HalrA)

328 And on the public restroom thing.....

The deal is, the issue is not just whether some guy can identify as woman, walk in to restroom and rape women. It's some guy walking around naked in the locker room at the gym. How about co-ed showers in high school gyms, college dorms and military barracks? Yep, no possibility for trouble there. The issue is this. Until recently, a man in a women's restroom or locker room was clearly out of place and the threat potential was more readily apparent. Now, you must put blinders on and assess the situation. Is that guy here because he identifies as a woman or because he's a voyeur? If he's a voyeur and I confront him, what repercussions will 8 face when people claim I violated his civil rights?

The point is not to promote fairness and tolerance but to force people to distrust their own innate survival instinct; to halt their process of determining right and wrong. The tiny number of people in society who are "transgendered" are merely being used as a battering ram against your well-evolved nature and instinct.

Posted by: Commissar M at May 08, 2016 01:41 AM (eJ7Ky)

329 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 07, 2016 11:04 PM (uDjkO)

There is so much that is wrong about this. Especially the potential of an alcohol related wreck resulting in the death of a person or persons. But I have been wondering of late, where the heck is MADD these days? They can be nuts sometimes for sure, but "back in the day" they would have been all over this.

Posted by: gracepc at May 08, 2016 01:43 AM (OU4q6)

330 Does that mean China's government is bananas? B-A-NAN-A-S?
Posted by: Thrawn at May 07, 2016 10:51 PM (wQWv4)

Obligatory:

https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Kgjkth6BRRY

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 08, 2016 01:44 AM (rlfds)

331 Grandma has mentioned that she told her kids and grand-kids to stop sending Starbucks cards and MacDonalds cards because she feels bad giving them away, and to not bother sending flowers, just send money, because the flowers die.
Today she went through the mail while we were sitting with her on her back porch, and the cards from her grand-kids all had a dollar bill in them
Posted by: Kindltot at May 08, 2016 12:57 AM

OK, I don't get why Grandma feels bad giving them away. She can regift them to anyone she wants to, not spend her money and make them feel better w/ her gift. WTF?

But then why are her idiot grandkids sending her a buck? That sounds rude, like telling her to pizz off if she doesn't like what they send.

Sounds like there's more to this story. Some old people can be really disagreeable and hard to deal with.

But my guess is that they don't really deal w/ her, call her and think that was just the kiss off way to deal w/ Grandma. Who knows.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 01:44 AM (PzqA/)

332
The point is not to promote fairness and
tolerance but to force people to distrust their own innate survival
instinct; to halt their process of determining right and wrong. The tiny
number of people in society who are "transgendered" are merely being
used as a battering ram against your well-evolved nature and instinct.

Posted by: Commissar M at May 08, 2016 01:41 AM (eJ7Ky)

And the more they get people to halt their process of determining right and wrong, the closer they are to having a world where nothing is right or wrong, which will quickly be replaced by The Party's new morality when it gets out of hand.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 08, 2016 01:47 AM (HalrA)

333 326 319 Because maximum perversity is the goal.

I don't think that's quite it, but you might find the difference academic. Ace said in the podcast that liberals try to uproot the status quo, and conservatives of different types will come together to stop it. He said that the liberal idiom is like a shark, it has to keep moving forward all the time.

Similar to what he said about McGuffins and liberal thinking. They don't do things to have them done, they do things to be the sort of person who does things.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 01:32 AM (VdICR)

They also do things to simply piss people off whom they don't like. Too many adult liberals have the maturity of a child or a young teenager and thus like to do things to aggravate others. They get a kick out of it. Worst of all, they never take any responsibility for their behavior. Now many of them with that attitude are becoming adults and having more of an influence on our society. That's why I'm very pessimistic about the country's future.

Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 01:37 AM (rtfSu)

That's where Sunnstein comes in.....in "Nudge", he posits that a government should always be annoying in some petty, stupid, unsupportable way -- so that, when general annoyance at government spikes, it can retreat on that petty, stupid, unsupportable thing and let an exhausted populace breathe.....and continue wholesale rapine and looting everywhere else. For example, he would assert that the government should keep transgender bathrooms on Page One of every newspaper, above the fold, so that the Federal corruption of the entire healthcare industry can be managed. If people start burning Federal buildings and lynching Federal employees, they can "reluctantly" give ground on the transgender bathrooms issue (which they don't care about, anyway) -- which would leave a relieved population to "recover".....albeit with significant losses.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 01:47 AM (EzgxV)

334 326----They also do things to simply piss people off whom they don't like. Too many adult liberals have the maturity of a child or a young teenager and thus like to do things to aggravate others. They get a kick out of it.
Posted by: Slappy at May 08, 2016 01:37 AM (rtfSu)
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Yep. With some lefties, it's about the sanctimony, the desire to feel and appear holier than the knuckle-draggers. But others are just trolling.

Like the rainbow lights on the White House.
Obama the middle-schooler, flipping the bird at us!
It's almost funny.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 08, 2016 01:48 AM (T/5A0)

335 On the bathroom thing the old way seemed to be working fine. If you looked enough like a chick you could use the women's restroom. And men just gave you extra space in the men's room. The whole thing is bullshit.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 01:49 AM (zLLv8)

336 335 On the bathroom thing the old way seemed to be working fine. If you looked enough like a chick you could use the women's restroom. And men just gave you extra space in the men's room. The whole thing is bullshit.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 01:49 AM (zLLv

Sunnstein's entire point is that Government should continually annoy its populace to further the grander aims of Government. We're paying people who believe their job is to be a constant pain-in-the-ass so we won't revolt and only pay people who do things we want done.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 01:51 AM (EzgxV)

337 >> There is so much that is wrong about this. Especially the
>> potential of an alcohol related wreck resulting in the death
>> of a person or persons.

Think you're missing the point.

California politicians have routinely survived fatalities directly attributable to 'sanctuary' catch-and-release of illegals.

Rule of law is a fantasy in this state.

Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2016 01:52 AM (o+SC1)

338

How To Use A Urinal Like A Lady: A Trans Woman’s Rebel Tour Of North Carolina…

http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=270293

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 01:55 AM (k4M/B)

339 I don't think this nation can ever be called the "land of the free" until bakers, photographers, and ministers are forced to celebrate furry-feathery-scaley three-way marriages!!!

For the children!

-!-

Home, where the rum is.

Posted by: mindful webworker - identifying as a swordfish at May 08, 2016 01:58 AM (gJBE5)

340 I don't know how true or prevalent this is. But I have heard they don't bother punishing illegals who get caught for DUI.

I tend to believe that's the case since I have seen illegals skate on getting punished for other laws a normal American would.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 02:00 AM (zLLv8)

341 338

How To Use A Urinal Like A Lady: A Trans Woman's Rebel Tour Of North Carolina...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=270293

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 08, 2016 01:55 AM (k4M/B)

There's a whole lotta swamps in NC....where people could just disappear.....locals understand that courtesy and respect go a lot farther than in-your-face activism.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:01 AM (EzgxV)

342
340 I don't know how true or prevalent this is. But I have heard they don't bother punishing illegals who get caught for DUI.

I tend to believe that's the case since I have seen illegals skate on getting punished for other laws a normal American would.

Posted by: Mostly lurker Willy J. at May 08, 2016 02:00 AM (zLLv

In most of California, being an illegal immigrant is a "Get Out Of Jail, Free" card -- as well as a "Get World-Class Medical Care and Skip Payment" card, and further a "Get a Supermarket Charge Card That Never Runs Out For Free" card.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:03 AM (EzgxV)

343 Obama said that students shouldn't try to keep speakers off campus whom they disagree with. I guess #trigglypuff et al has made a mark, and he wants to avoid more. Hell Milo said that he would give $50 to Trump for every interruption and they still can't go for ten seconds. Garbage babies.

Much better if they can go uninterrupted, but I don't know if such a video will have just as much internet traffic.

Why am I talking about serious things on an ONT? Because I'm afraid I will forget a certain thought if I don't write it down.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 02:05 AM (VdICR)

344 Heck, in the 19th century, the age of consent in Delaware was SEVEN.
Posted by: Not into Francine at May 08, 2016 12:43 AM

Wait! What? OK give us some evidence of that.
Maybe you are confused w/ 7th century Muslims?...
Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 01:08 AM (PzqA/)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yfzzyvy
In the rest of the country at the time, the age of consent was 10 or 12.
Of course, a 12 year old in 1880 was far more of an adult than a whiny college student of today.
Posted by: Not into Francine at May 08, 2016 01:29 AM

Thanks for the attempt NiF, I do appreciate it. That article doesn't cut it for any real historian.

I've worked in the field for many yrs, but not claiming to be an expert. However the first rule is you need primary sources. An internet article that refers to other articles that refer to other articles does NOT constitute any kind of historic evidence.

I want to see a DE law in it's original form that allows for the age of consent to be SEVEN. That's utter BS until you can produce it. You seem to be pandering for pedophilia. Here we go...

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 02:08 AM (PzqA/)

345

Bartolo Colons home run is a moment of pure joy. Makes me so happy

Posted by: ThunderB at May 08, 2016 02:09 AM (zOTsN)

346 I attempted to play about twenty songs today for electric guitar. I could have said 'played' but I like to allow for how terrible I can be at whatever songs.

Here's one I did well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1722VFxD-qI

38 Special.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 02:11 AM (VdICR)

347 Back home now. Business was so slow tonight the bartender told me to put iTunes on shuffle. Not a single singer tonight.

Cheap oil may be good for the country as a whole, but it's killed business here. No oilfield workers coming in any more to blow their paychecks.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 02:11 AM (rJUlF)

348 On the bathroom thing the old way seemed to be working fine. If you looked enough like a chick you could use the women's restroom. And men just gave you extra space in the men's room. The whole thing is bullshit.
Posted by: Mostly lurker
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It isn't about Tran's, and it isn't about bathrooms. It is the Left/Progs seizing on a political opportunity to exert further control. It is about diminishing freedom and private life.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 02:18 AM (9mTYi)

349 347 Back home now. Business was so slow tonight the bartender told me to put iTunes on shuffle. Not a single singer tonight.

Cheap oil may be good for the country as a whole, but it's killed business here. No oilfield workers coming in any more to blow their paychecks.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 02:11 AM (rJUlF)

If there's one slight small consolation -- you didn't have to listen to a bunch of amateurs attempt to imitate the vocal stylings of Bob Dylan.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:18 AM (EzgxV)

350 Speaking of Mother's Day, if the future belongs to those who show up...

The record for the most babies born to one woman is sixty-nine. (Which, obviously, was not what the couple was doing.) The name-forgotten first wife (!!) of Feodor Vassilyev, a peasant from Shuya, Russia who lived from 1707-1782.

How?

Sixteen pairs of twins, seven sets of triplets, and four sets of quadruplets. 67 of her children survived infancy!

Today I found out video and article:
https://youtu.be/min1j3Pncb8?t=3m31s
http://bit.ly/1rARSIq

Posted by: mindful webworker - father of a daughter and fraternal twins at May 08, 2016 02:19 AM (gJBE5)

351 It isn't about Tran's, and it isn't about bathrooms. It is the Left/Progs seizing on a political opportunity to exert further control. It is about diminishing freedom and private life.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 02:18 AM (9mTYi)

===

This. I wish my millenial friends understood this. They either think that's not what's happening, or they just don't care.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 02:19 AM (rJUlF)

352 If there's one slight small consolation -- you didn't have to listen to a bunch of amateurs attempt to imitate the vocal stylings of Bob Dylan.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:18 AM (EzgxV)

Yeah, well...thank heaven for small favors.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 02:20 AM (rJUlF)

353 348 On the bathroom thing the old way seemed to be working fine. If you looked enough like a chick you could use the women's restroom. And men just gave you extra space in the men's room. The whole thing is bullshit.
Posted by: Mostly lurker
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It isn't about Tran's, and it isn't about bathrooms. It is the Left/Progs seizing on a political opportunity to exert further control. It is about diminishing freedom and private life.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 02:18 AM (9mTYi)

That would have been the old Progressives. In the world of Cass Sunnstein's "Nudge", it's about being the biggest assholes imaginable to divert attention from their massively corrupt enterprises.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:20 AM (EzgxV)

354 @Cato- Absolutely! The point not a world without morals, it's a world without YOUR morals! Leave a society without identity, direction, guidance or history so that it can be reshaped in the "new progressive way" (new Soviet man!). You'll notice how in nearly every great "people's revolution", there's always the identification and perpetuation of a victim class (classes), the tearing down of the old order including almost always the church, the persecution of victimizers and eventual collapse. But ever notice that when the glorious new order is formed, they are always worse? The purges of the lazy, the intellectual, the hedonistic and revolutionary are far worse than anything those groups faced before. ALWAYS! Somebody like Cora Segal aka Trigglypuff, would not survive a year in the fat-queer-feminist anarcho-Marxist society she imagines for herself. If the 1500 calories a day weren't bad enough, the screaming obscenities and insane flailing wouldn't be welcomed at the Party Syndicate Congress. 15 minutes in a labor camp would be a death sentence!

On that note, and having spent the evening being unusually chatty rather than lurking, I must take my leave. Good night fellow morons and moronettes!

Posted by: Commissar M at May 08, 2016 02:22 AM (eJ7Ky)

355 Captain Whitebread: Cheap oil may be good for the country as a whole, but it's killed business here. No oilfield workers coming in any more to blow their paychecks.

Damn, Cap'n.

I think oil states, oil companies (and others) should have come up with some better plan for smoothing out the roller-coastery boom-bust cycles. (But, since I haven't done that for myself, who am I to say?)

Posted by: mindful webworker - Okie by birth and choice at May 08, 2016 02:24 AM (gJBE5)

356 That would have been the old Progressives. In the world of Cass Sunnstein's "Nudge", it's about being the biggest assholes imaginable to divert attention from their massively corrupt enterprises.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:20 AM (EzgxV)

A little mood music:
https://youtu.be/-QRHJ6ZI2z4

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 02:26 AM (rJUlF)

357 mindful,

Yep, you'd think so. Then again, neither have I, so...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 02:27 AM (rJUlF)

358 355 Captain Whitebread: Cheap oil may be good for the country as a whole, but it's killed business here. No oilfield workers coming in any more to blow their paychecks.

Damn, Cap'n.

I think oil states, oil companies (and others) should have come up with some better plan for smoothing out the roller-coastery boom-bust cycles. (But, since I haven't done that for myself, who am I to say?)

Posted by: mindful webworker - Okie by birth and choice at May 08, 2016 02:24 AM (gJBE5)

They had them and they worked.....until the rules of the game got repeatedly changed while parties were in play. We don't have a failure of the free market -- where companies could make various informed bets as to where things were going; we have a failure of the rigged market -- where companies closest to the Administration had advantages funnelled to them after investments were made.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:29 AM (EzgxV)

359 Good-night to Commissar M, and the Cap'n, and the elder god, the Hammer, the chicken, the farmer, and all.

And all the mothers, past, present, and future.

Off to bed, to sleep, and thus time-travel to tomorrow.

♥

Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

Posted by: mindful webworker - love is love and not fade away at May 08, 2016 02:29 AM (gJBE5)

360 That would have been the old Progressives. In the world of Cass Sunnstein's "Nudge", it's about being the biggest assholes imaginable to divert attention from their massively corrupt enterprises.
Posted by: cthulhu
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Package deal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 08, 2016 02:33 AM (9mTYi)

361 Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2016 01:52 AM (o+SC1)

Thanks. I do get that -- having escaped after many years in CA. What I don't get -- and I started noticing this a while back -- is that MADD rarely pops up any more. And in a situation like this, unsurprising for CA admittedly, it is still an irresponsible purposeful policy that could result in an alcohol related death. I just think it's interesting, that they just seemed to have backed off in general. And I suppose in the back of my mind I wonder if any of that has to do with the whole mess around illegals drunk driving and killing, maiming, etc. Or maybe it's just me -- not reading the "right" stuff.

Posted by: gracepc at May 08, 2016 02:34 AM (OU4q6)

362 Why am I talking about serious things on an ONT? Because I'm afraid I will forget a certain thought if I don't write it down.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 02:05 AM

Ah hah, a kindred soul. I make note of the posts I want to comment on and can never keep up.

What, you say I drink too much!

Ok, what were we talking about?

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 02:34 AM (PzqA/)

363 I'm getting outta here, too. Later.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 02:36 AM (rJUlF)

364 Senators' stock portfolios greatly outperform the DOW.

In a better world, their salary would be great sums of money, in the form of Treasury bonds that can't be cashed for 100 years. They would have to sell them for their long-term projected value.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 02:36 AM (VdICR)

365 Cheap oil may be good for the country as a whole, but it's killed business here. No oilfield workers coming in any more to blow their paychecks.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at May 08, 2016 02:11 AM

You didn't have to play Bob Dylan?

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 02:38 AM (PzqA/)

366 The fiancee is watching the series, "The Good Wife". I happened to walk past as Valerie Jarrett was doing a guest spot. As you might imagine, I treated it as nearly stepping on a rattlesnake.

I explained that she was a likely Iranian agent who was widely thought to be Obama's Political Officer.....and got the response, "well, ok then...."

I close my eyes and I see bloodshed, though I wish it were not so....

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:38 AM (EzgxV)

367 Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:03 AM (EzgxV)

And the more elite single The World Is Your Oyster card.

Posted by: gracepc at May 08, 2016 02:41 AM (OU4q6)

368 361 Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2016 01:52 AM (o+SC1)

Thanks. I do get that -- having escaped after many years in CA. What I don't get -- and I started noticing this a while back -- is that MADD rarely pops up any more. And in a situation like this, unsurprising for CA admittedly, it is still an irresponsible purposeful policy that could result in an alcohol related death. I just think it's interesting, that they just seemed to have backed off in general. And I suppose in the back of my mind I wonder if any of that has to do with the whole mess around illegals drunk driving and killing, maiming, etc. Or maybe it's just me -- not reading the "right" stuff.

Posted by: gracepc at May 08, 2016 02:34 AM (OU4q6)

MADD was subsumed into the greater Leftist groupthink, and is now part of the message discipline beating against civilization. I'd bet that the original MADD, torn over children lost to alcohol abuse, would never have thought they'd be in a coalition supporting marijuana abuse and aborting kids.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:43 AM (EzgxV)

369 You seem to be pandering for pedophilia. Here we go...

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 02:08 AM (PzqA/)

A hearty "FUCK YOU" to you to.

Posted by: ಠ_ಠ at May 08, 2016 02:44 AM (vBeA5)

370 The POINT of perverting language, is to make us all willing "thralls" of the state.

Even the ACT of parroting these lies, (even if it is just to get along and go along) makes us less in our own esteem.

THIS is what totalitarian regimes wish.

Every single erosion of your lived truth, every single time you mouth what you KNOW to be a lie, to be polite, to get ahead, to go along...

They don't HAVE to put you in camps in Siberia.

You have shackled yourself.

You are at their mercy and they don't need to bother with the logistics of transport of human bodies anymore.

So long as you spout the "party line" (whatever flavor it is today) to the point where you doubt your own self, or that there is truth in the world...

That's the point!

Doubt yourself.

Posted by: Deety at May 08, 2016 02:47 AM (xPWMR)

371 369 You seem to be pandering for pedophilia. Here we go...

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 02:08 AM (PzqA/)

A hearty "FUCK YOU" to you to.

Posted by: [hat] at May 08, 2016 02:44 AM (vBeA5)

Hat, Farmer -- you're both honorable regulars. Please be sure you're not talking past each other.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:48 AM (EzgxV)

372 I think Milan Kundera made this point better but...

I don't have any of my fucking BOOKS, godammit!

Posted by: Deety at May 08, 2016 02:49 AM (xPWMR)

373 Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:43 AM (EzgxV)

Thx. Shocker! Not really. Just kinda' sad as more and more disappear into the fold.

Posted by: gracepc at May 08, 2016 02:49 AM (OU4q6)

374 370 The POINT of perverting language, is to make us all willing "thralls" of the state.

Even the ACT of parroting these lies, (even if it is just to get along and go along) makes us less in our own esteem.

THIS is what totalitarian regimes wish.

Every single erosion of your lived truth, every single time you mouth what you KNOW to be a lie, to be polite, to get ahead, to go along...

They don't HAVE to put you in camps in Siberia.

You have shackled yourself.

You are at their mercy and they don't need to bother with the logistics of transport of human bodies anymore.

So long as you spout the "party line" (whatever flavor it is today) to the point where you doubt your own self, or that there is truth in the world...

That's the point!

Doubt yourself.

Posted by: Deety at May 08, 2016 02:47 AM (xPWMR)

Well said, Deety -- and, great to see you!

Orwell was all over this in 1984 -- whatever you might think of the Whorf-Sapir hypothesis (that you can only think of things your language has words for), it is indisputable that "renouncing the things your language DOES have words for" pollutes your worldview.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:52 AM (EzgxV)

375 Hat, Farmer -- you're both honorable regulars. Please be sure you're not talking past each other.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:48 AM (EzgxV)

I simply wanted to note that the age of consent used to be higher in the bast, and has increased with the increase of adolesence and a lack of full adulthood.

I noted Delaware in the 19th century as a "WTF" moment, and certainly not as something to advocate!

If there was a misunderstanding, than I appologize for any contribution I made there towards.

Posted by: A Talking Hat at May 08, 2016 02:54 AM (vBeA5)

376 Okay, WOW!

Pedophilia?

Gonna go back to lurking and NOT reading the comments.

Sheesh!

How you doin' Coothi!

Posted by: Deety at May 08, 2016 02:56 AM (xPWMR)

377 Senators' stock portfolios greatly outperform the DOW.
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Pfft.
Cattle futures are where it's at.

Posted by: Corrupt hag at May 08, 2016 03:01 AM (yddCj)

378 376 Okay, WOW!

Pedophilia?

Gonna go back to lurking and NOT reading the comments.

Sheesh!

How you doin' Coothi!

Posted by: Deety at May 08, 2016 02:56 AM (xPWMR)

A trifle bumped-around. Fiancee got laid-off; bunch of micro-crises threw me off my stride; figuring out the tax basis of the $180K I liquidated last year because it wasn't totally secure from Ira, when he was prowling around in my finances, made doing taxes a painful, drawn-out process.....got lots of niggly things, but I know folks with big ones, and I'm doing well in that regard.

How are you doing? I've missed you on the ONT. Did you get a new day job?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 03:03 AM (EzgxV)

379 Trump/Webb 2016!

#MexicanIllegalLivesMatterYoursDoesnt

No Jobs? No Credit? No Problem! We fund national/state/municipal entities, FAST! Call 1-800-FED-SHIT.....

Press (1) if you approve of the DNC new slogan, "Death to America! Kill the Jews! The West is Kaput!", press (2) if you do not approve; please stay on the line to begin your processing for immediate internment in our new Reeducation/ Fun-camps!

Posted by: The Midnight Chalkening at May 08, 2016 03:06 AM (7lKeD)

380 Here's the movie that Ace said was grossly stolen from, to make Raiders of the Lost Ark.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009YBQCCG

It's on Prime. I will watch it tomorrow.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 03:12 AM (VdICR)

381 Posted by: The Midnight Chalkening at May 08, 2016 03:06 AM (7lKeD)

Back in my college days, I (as well as like minded friends), would plaster the campus with anti-Leftist flyers.

We also had "mop brigades" to wash off all the chalk slogans and idiocy that the wacho Leftists on campus would write. The campus police were quite understanding.

Posted by: The Campus Hat at May 08, 2016 03:14 AM (vBeA5)

382 The fiancee and I managed to make it to the monthly DeAnza swap meet. During the last 15%, it turned to rain.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 03:15 AM (EzgxV)

383 I think that what Kundera (as opposed to Orwell) was getting at was the actual lived experience as opposed to the theoretical.

Kundera can be said (by me) to have posited in his works that the very ACT of a green-grocer, putting up fake sales prices for his cabbages, day after day (no matter the legitimate market pressure) eventually gets so overwhelmed spiritually as makes no never-mind.

It's the putting up of the sign.

Every day he is REQUIRED to write what he KNOWS is NOT TRUE.

This will, eventually, eat your heart out.

Posted by: Deety at May 08, 2016 03:17 AM (xPWMR)

384 Here's the movie that Ace said was grossly stolen from, to make Raiders of the Lost Ark.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009YBQCCG

It's on Prime. I will watch it tomorrow.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 08, 2016 03:12 AM (VdICR)

OMG!!!

I thought that it was only me and Bobby Jindal listened to the podcast!

Posted by: Deety at May 08, 2016 03:20 AM (xPWMR)

385 Hat, Farmer -- you're both honorable regulars. Please be sure you're not talking past each other.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 08, 2016 02:48 AM

Apparently that is the case. No idea this was the Hat. Just in on the convo on age of consent. Someone, I didn't know who was claiming a historical fact that DE had the age of consent as seven.

Never heard of such a thing and asked for verification. Got nothing other than a link to other links, that's not how you find the truth, as I said you need primary sources. Else we are all lost on internet BS.

I thought there was a troll here promoting pedophilia. No idea it was the Hat arguing w/ me.

I'm sorry if you are offended Hat, the pedophilia thing was directed at a possible troll, that's all.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 03:23 AM (PzqA/)

386 I'm sorry if you are offended Hat, the pedophilia thing was directed at a possible troll, that's all.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 03:23 AM (PzqA/)

Misunderstanings happen.

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 08, 2016 03:30 AM (vBeA5)

387 If there was a misunderstanding, than I appologize for any contribution I made there towards.
Posted by: A Talking Hat at May 08, 2016 02:54 AM

Be well, I'm tired, on vacation dealing w/ old folks.

Feel free to ignore anything I say for the rest of the night. Well actually, ya'll should just ignore what I say all the time if I think about it.

AZ is nice and warm compared to IL.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2016 03:38 AM (PzqA/)

388 Night all.

Here is "Victim of Changes" by Judas Priest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKSU1W0ZUmQ

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 08, 2016 03:40 AM (vBeA5)

389 "Back in my college days, I (as well as like minded friends), would plaster the campus with anti-Leftist flyers."

Yeah. I got to patrol "Upper Campus" as a sophomore (Student Security Aide).

"Why are you here! We're Seniors!"

"Work Study!"

"This is OUR COMMON ROOM!"

"Kinda why I'm here. I'm actually, personally, CURIOUS as a fellow student, about how much MORE you can fuck-up a grand piano other than jizzing on it."

"Hey! That was WAY before your time!"

SRSLY? I'd *love* to hear more about it (not really) but don't you have a THESIS to write?

Shut Up. Get Bed or Get Writing!

Posted by: Deety at May 08, 2016 03:40 AM (xPWMR)

390 As a freshman in college, living in a coed dorm, things occassionally got out of hand. One fine evening (or early morning, my memory is unclear on that point) our RA came down the hall and told us that we needed to pipe down because he was trying to masterbate.

After giggling our butts off, we did, indeed, quiet down.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 08, 2016 03:50 AM (+YMhA)

391 "That which cannot go on, will not."

cthulhu's (and many others) argument

*see Venezuela, Detroit, Puerto Rico, etc.*

Now come the the Central States Pension Fund (that would be the one that the Teamsters get their retirement checks from) -- it has under $17 billion in assets, and $35 billion in future liabilities; it now has 1 person paying in for every 4 getting a check. With $2.8 billion in payouts every year, it'll be flat broke in 10 years.

An attempt by the board of CSPF to cut bennies in half was shot down by the Treasury Dept., because their assumed 7.5% roi was TOO HIGH.

Heh. hmmm, bailout or a couple of million angry Teamsters in the streets; yeah it's going to be pretty.

(zero hedge link in nic)

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 08, 2016 04:15 AM (gyKtp)

392 Deety, it's always good to hear from you.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 08, 2016 04:25 AM (gyKtp)

393 Sheesh. I got to this little party late tonight indeed. I haven't been around as I've been going through a ringer with my mother. Any regulars may remember I mentioned she had knee replacement surgery and then my father had to go the hospital with balance problems and sky high blood pressure.

Well I thought all was well. My mother was home. Well, for a little over a week, I noticed something was wrong. She had this worried look on her face and was sort of in a funk. Well, the last couple of days, she broke down. She's having some sort of major depressive episode. Absolutely irrational, full of guilt, thinking she's made everybody mad and has done awful things and all that. She's in a terrible state of mind.

Totally irrational. I don't know what happened, if it's some of the medications and we're sort of in a debate about what to do.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 08, 2016 04:33 AM (DW+jj)

394 Wow! Got up a few minutes ago to get a drink of water, drank it, and was on my way back to bed. Looked out the window, and a brilliant display of Northern Lights was in action.

Grabbed my little digital camera, went outside, and tried to take some pics. Could not find a "bulb" or "time" setting on the dial. Got one faint blur for my trouble, before the batteries died.

You know, with a film camera, I could have a chance at some awesome pics. Grrr. Rest the camera on a railing, set the shutter to "B", and hold the button down for a ten-count. Oughta work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2016 04:51 AM (i/8iE)

395 Totally irrational. I don't know what happened, if it's some of the medications and we're sort of in a debate about what to do.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 08, 2016 04:33 AM (DW+jj)

I would suggest writing down the names of all her new meds and researching the side effects of each.

Then check to see if any combination of the new drugs have side effects when combined.

Posted by: Mrs. Huma Wiener at May 08, 2016 04:51 AM (WVsWD)

396 While I am not aware of any drugs that can cause depression, that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Many drugs do alter moods but not in a specific way. They may just amplify what is already there.

Posted by: Mrs. Huma Wiener at May 08, 2016 04:53 AM (WVsWD)

397 /off sock

I always do that.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Not a master of the Sock Puppet. at May 08, 2016 04:54 AM (WVsWD)

398 Glad I checked back. One of the new drugs they put her on is Eliquis, an anticoagulant (blood thinner, as some call them). Depression is listed as a psychological side effect, with an incidence rate of 1 - 10%.

I was able to talk to a nurse who assists one of her doctors and she pooh-poohed that. The side effects are all the adverse events recorded in trials during testing, and postmarketing I think, and they'll always say that doesn't say anything about causation, and poo-poo the notion that an anticoagulant can do something like that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 08, 2016 05:02 AM (DW+jj)

399 That would be the culprit then. Have you looked for an alternative drug? Is she also taking an Asprin a day?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Not a master of the Sock Puppet. at May 08, 2016 05:08 AM (WVsWD)

400 To my story at top, if I could have made it $1 I think it would have worked.
At least it's the 5 o'clock hour
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2016 05:29 AM (3wHFl)

401 Pretty quiet this morning.

Posted by: Infidel at May 08, 2016 05:56 AM (NhVFB)

402 The cat woke me up for her 2 am snack. Light rain outside. Too many cookbooks on Amazon ...

Posted by: Adriane the Realist ... at May 08, 2016 06:05 AM (AoK0a)

403 F'ing Verizon.

The DSL package we purchased, (about the only internet provider in this area), claims d/l speeds of "up to" 7.5 Mbs. The best I've seen, after three weeks, is 0.2 Mbs. Half the time, I don't even get that. It just inexplicably dies entirely. Calls to Verizon have done no good, as they simply claim it has to be the wires in my house, (ignoring the fact that the previous tenants, which are good friends of ours, had no issues with internet at all for the few years they lived here).

It died again yesterday, and finally came back on this morning. I called Verizon yesterday, and they grudgingly admitted that it appears to be a problem with their equipment. It magically turned back on this morning, at it's usual blindingly fast dial up speed. I can at least take advantage of the opportunity to check the news, weather, and stuff before it dies again.

On the plus side, there's no way in hell I'll ever hit that monthly 10 GB data cap Verizon saddle's their DSL customers with.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 08, 2016 06:21 AM (uIctN)

404 238 A Gibbon will write our history

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Hey!

Posted by: Lemurs everywhere at May 08, 2016 06:23 AM (3Mimg)

405 Regular 'progressive': nobody before us was smart so you must do things our way. Or else.

Maximum 'progressive': no one other than me is smart, so you'll do things my way. Or else.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at May 08, 2016 06:54 AM (3Mimg)

406 Hi 'rons,

I'm looking for good books on the history of surveillance; mostly the NSA, but I'll happily take information about other agencies.

Also, conventions and practice of modern espionage. There's some wiggle room in "modern" of course, as I don't know what timeframe's practices have mostly been declassified by relevant agencies. I'm just looking to get a general sense of what it consists of in the modern era.

Posted by: Yuge is the word at May 08, 2016 11:13 AM (KLuJ6)

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