Cruz to Make "Major Announcement" at 4pm<br>Update: Carly Fiorina Will be His VP Running Mate

Cruz to Make "Major Announcement" at 4pm
Update: Carly Fiorina Will be His VP Running Mate

Ted Cruz says he has a "major announcement" at 4 PM.
— Teddy Schleifer (@teddyschleifer) April 27, 2016

Given that Trump exceeded his path-to-1237 pace yesterday, winning a luxurious 200 delegates, and that Trump is either tied or ahead in Cruz's absolutely-must-win state Indiana, Cruz is certainly looking for something that shakes up the dynamic of the race in his favor.

He let it be known that he was vetting Carly Fiorina for his VP running mate, and that she was on his short-list for that job. She could bring some strengths to the ticket, though warm-and-fuzzy likability isn't one of them.

Maybe we're past that kind of thinking, though.

Anyway, Cruz is going to announce something major. It might be that Kasich has agreed to a more tangible form of their deal -- though, in that case, I would imagine this would be a Cruz and Kasich statement.

He could also announce and end of the deal, given that it appears to have played badly in the public, and Kasich isn't even really honoring it.

It's hard to think what kind of big announcement Cruz could make at this point that isn't a VP pick or something to do with the deal with Kasich.

Update: Carly Fiorina scores a second huge win this election cycle.

First she was a guest on the Ace of Spades podcast. She probably thought it could get no better than that.

But it did.

Sources confirm to myself & @jdistaso that @tedcruz intends to name @CarlyFiorina as VP pick if #GOP picks him. #nhpolitics #fitn
— Josh McElveen (WMUR) (@JoshMcElveen) April 27, 2016

Posted by: Ace at 11:27 AM

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1 Getting out of the race?

Posted by: Jake (not officially a regular) at April 27, 2016 11:28 AM (RI+91)

2 Howdy

Posted by: Aviator at April 27, 2016 11:28 AM (c7vUv)

3 Pence endorsement?

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 11:28 AM (gmeXX)

4 Trading Indiana Avenue for Electric Company and $300

Posted by: jsg at April 27, 2016 11:30 AM (uUhhd)

5 I don't think Carly would bring anything but fail to a Trump ticket.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 27, 2016 11:31 AM (vvmPQ)

6 two words

CAIT LYN!!!

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 27, 2016 11:31 AM (dBmVV)

7 An endorsement? Pence? Mitch Daniels?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 11:31 AM (so+oy)

8 Meh. If he's not announcing he's getting out he's just delaying the inevitable.

Posted by: creeper at April 27, 2016 11:32 AM (ghfOx)

9 Carly for VP, Kasich drops out. Only two things, aside from suspending the campaign, that merit this much buildup.

Posted by: joncelli, A Stout, Nay, Gravitationally Enhanced Fellow at April 27, 2016 11:32 AM (iLoHX)

10 Beside VP candidate rarely make any difference in a campaign and then they do it is usually negative. Palin was an exeption to that rule, but that was largely because McShitty was roundly hated by conservatives.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 27, 2016 11:32 AM (vvmPQ)

11 If it is a VP announcement, it strikes me as a bad move. Understanding he needs some sort of hail mary and he needs to create buzz, but I think it would probably hurt more than help.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 11:32 AM (gmeXX)

12 Whatever it is, Trump will have something insulting to say about it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 11:33 AM (w4NZ8)

13 Glenn Beck as veep?

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 27, 2016 11:33 AM (0sLvz)

14 Pence

Posted by: Make America Great Again at April 27, 2016 11:33 AM (B+Arn)

15 Something about basketball rings.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 11:33 AM (1xUj/)

16 Sadly, whatever it is I don't think it's going to make any difference...

Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 11:33 AM (O2RFr)

17 Or, yeah, an endorsement, but it's kind of like putting a coat of paint on a car that's barely running.

Posted by: joncelli, A Stout, Nay, Gravitationally Enhanced Fellow at April 27, 2016 11:33 AM (iLoHX)

18 You know what I like about Carly?

She fights.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 27, 2016 11:34 AM (e8ge6)

19 An announcement at 4pm.

Can we expect a flaming skull?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Pox Vobiscum - Get Your Literate Latinate Curses from the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2016 11:34 AM (hLRSq)

20 18
You know what I like about Carly?

She fights.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 27, 2016 11:34 AM (e8ge6)

So does Cruz but that doesn't seem to have helped him.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 27, 2016 11:34 AM (vvmPQ)

21 I hope it is Carly. She'll go after Hillary! like a terrier on a steak bone.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 27, 2016 11:35 AM (e8ge6)

22 Trading Indiana Avenue for Electric Company and $300

Posted by: jsg at April 27, 2016 11:30 AM (uUhhd)

Threadwinner.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Pox Vobiscum - Get Your Literate Latinate Curses from the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2016 11:35 AM (hLRSq)

23 Something about basketball rings.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 11:33 AM (1xUj/)

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I could not believe he said that....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 11:35 AM (8XRCm)

24 You know what I like about Carly?

If it is Her as VP choice I can't wait for the intelligent Tweets from Trump.... Maybe He can call Her ugly again... That will help Him with the Womens vote...

Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 11:35 AM (O2RFr)

25 Time to stock up on Val-u-Rite and popcorn?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 27, 2016 11:35 AM (px66F)

26 4 Trading Indiana Avenue for Electric Company and $300
Posted by: jog at April 27, 2016 11:30 AM (uUhhd)

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LOL

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 27, 2016 11:36 AM (rlfds)

27 That he reads AoSHQ and comments as "Howie Feltersnatch".

Posted by: Howie Feltersnatch at April 27, 2016 11:36 AM (8LWx/)

28 He has decided to identify as a woman.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 11:36 AM (0LHZx)

29 I know if I was a VP hopeful I'd love to jump on a ticket that just got trounced in 5 contests and finished 3 of 3 in most of them.

Posted by: FishUnderTheSea at April 27, 2016 11:36 AM (v/sR3)

30 Bleah. I'm officially back to "no candidate". Ted just can't seem to get it done.

Some folks may be bright, capable, and fine people, but they just don't do well in electoral politics. So it goes.

I hate this century.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 27, 2016 11:37 AM (9krrF)

31 "Maybe we're past that kind of thinking, though."

No, I don't think we are.

What a stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 27, 2016 11:37 AM (u0lmX)

32 Look at it from the potential VP picks point of view. Do you really want to be associated with a campaign with the stench of death about it?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at April 27, 2016 11:37 AM (B+Arn)

33 If it is Her as VP choice I can't wait for the intelligent Tweets from Trump.... Maybe He can call Her ugly again

Le sigh.

I find him utterly loathsome. As of last night I've accepted the inevitability of him as the nominee.

At least I live in a blue state so my vote won't matter anyway.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 11:37 AM (1xUj/)

34 Dropping out of the race and announcing he is going to take the VP slot with Trump.

Voltron is forming.

Trump/Cruz 2016 - GOTTERDAMARUNGG NOW!!

Posted by: Kreplach at April 27, 2016 11:37 AM (3MZBD)

35 I know if I was a VP hopeful I'd love to jump on a ticket that just got trounced in 5 contests and finished 3 of 3 in most of them.

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Which is why Carly is the obvious choice if that is what is happening. She really has no where to go, so this wounldn't affect her political career. If anything it keeps her relevant for the next six weeks.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 11:38 AM (gmeXX)

36 Sold his soul to the Devil.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at April 27, 2016 11:38 AM (dU/fR)

37 We'll see, I guess. In all honesty and the way things are in reality, he probably should drop out. There's no way the GOPe lets him win anyway. his only hope would be to roll in with a huge majority of delegates and ram it down their throats, and they'd still find some way to deny him the nomination.

But he'll probably be announcing a VP choice and blow off the stupid Kasich coalition without saying anything about it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 11:38 AM (39g3+)

38
No, I don't think we are.

What a stupid time to be alive

I keep telling My Husband that We just don't seem to "fit" in this Century anymore....

Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 11:38 AM (O2RFr)

39 though warm-and-fuzzy likability isn't one of them.

*********

He's going to need someone warmer and fuzzier.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 11:38 AM (mcm0N)

40 Can we expect a flaming skull?

I'm all out of Irish Cream. And both flavors Schnapps.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 27, 2016 11:38 AM (9krrF)

41 29 I know if I was a VP hopeful I'd love to jump on a ticket that just got trounced in 5 contests and finished 3 of 3 in most of them.
Posted by: FishUnderTheSea at April 27, 2016 11:36 AM (v/sR3)

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For the 187,176th time....primary results and general election results have virtually nothing to do with each other.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 11:38 AM (0LHZx)

42 I find him utterly loathsome. As of last night I've accepted the inevitability of him as the nominee.

At least I live in a blue state so my vote won't matter anyway.

Me too.... CA.

Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 11:39 AM (O2RFr)

43 He's going to need someone warmer and fuzzier.

You want warm and fuzzy, go to the animal shelter.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 27, 2016 11:39 AM (9krrF)

44 Veeps don't affect general elections, notwithstanding the seemingly near-universal belief that they do. Not sure whether they affect primaries, as I don't recall veep candidates being named in that phase.

Not that it matters probably, but the Kasich "deal" was teh stupid, politically. Not the marker of political shrewdness. And the "basketball rings" thing seems trivial, but is an uncomfortable echo of Cominskey Field and gettin' me a huntin' license - by a smart worthy guy who is not, like the authors of those two jaw-droppers, a dumb unfit disastrous jerkwad.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2016 11:39 AM (QDnY+)

45 22 Trading Indiana Avenue for Electric Company and $300

Posted by: jsg at April 27, 2016 11:30 AM (uUhhd)

Threadwinner.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Pox Vobiscum - Get Your Literate Latinate Curses from the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2016 11:35 AM (hLRSq)

If you get Water Works you'll have a utility-based juggernaut!

Posted by: One of my sisters, trying to talk me into that deal at April 27, 2016 11:39 AM (iLoHX)

46 I keep telling My Husband that We just don't seem to "fit" in this Century

Nobody sane does.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 11:39 AM (39g3+)

47 18 You know what I like about Carly?

She fights.
Posted by: OregonMuse at April 27, 2016 11:34 AM (e8ge6)

I like her. The problem is she doesn't really have the experience you'd want to justify a VP position. However, her performance in the debates should have embarrassed every single other candidate running.

Posted by: AD at April 27, 2016 11:39 AM (QuixQ)

48 Does not matter..

I will NEVER VOTE FOR TRUMP, in any election.

Let the flaming begin, I do not care.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at April 27, 2016 11:40 AM (Gl74b)

49 Coming out of the closet?

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 27, 2016 11:40 AM (RcpcZ)

50

Hmmm...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 11:40 AM (qCMvj)

51 He's out or my name isn't Turdblossom.

Posted by: Karl Rove at April 27, 2016 11:41 AM (nckx1)

52 I find him utterly loathsome.

I understand that. I find him less appealing everyday.

If he had a smidgen of humility, I might feel differently and yes you can be somewhat humble and a leader at the same time. Calvin Coolidge didn't talk about himself all the time. Me! Me! Me! Bleeeeeech

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 11:41 AM (w4NZ8)

53 It might be that Kasich has agreed to a more tangible form of their deal -- though, in that case, I would imagine this would be a Cruz and Kasich statement.

He could also announce and end of the deal, given that it appears to have played badly in the public, and Kasich isn't even really honoring it.

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I would consider either of these even a minor announcement. More like deck chairs, Titanic, you do the math.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 11:41 AM (imhnn)

54 Hopefully he sees the writing on the wall and will end his campaign.

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 11:41 AM (WBahS)

55 4 Trading Indiana Avenue for Electric Company and $300
Posted by: jog at April 27, 2016 11:30 AM (uUhhd)

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Seriously, a real estate deal? What a terrible deal. Utilities suck, just try building apartments there. LAME!

Posted by: SATAN at April 27, 2016 11:41 AM (h/uSM)

56 Oh shit we lost the crucial sippin_bourbon vote

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at April 27, 2016 11:41 AM (dU/fR)

57

Well, Pence as VP hits both VP and upcoming Indiana.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 11:41 AM (qCMvj)

58 It's hard to think what kind of big announcement Cruz could make at this point that isn't a VP pick or something to do with the deal with Kasich.
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Could be a Pence endorsement.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at April 27, 2016 11:41 AM (t5zYU)

59 Cruz will announce Donald J Trump wants to ban shredded cheese in order to make America grate again.

Kasich is a jackass and should've ended his campaign months ago. Heck, he shouldn't have even run in the first place.

Also, shut down the stupid U.N. and move it to Syria.

Posted by: Atilla the Hungry at April 27, 2016 11:41 AM (B03+6)

60 that would've been better with my TRUMP sock...

Posted by: SATAN at April 27, 2016 11:41 AM (h/uSM)

61

I think the Fiorina thing was a trial balloon. Wonder how it polled.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 11:42 AM (qCMvj)

62 I like her. The problem is she doesn't really have the experience you'd want to justify a VP position.

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Not to get into this kind of argument, but these comments always seem silly to me - but they are a reflection of how many (maybe most) people think. Carly has just as much experience as Trump (maybe more). We had this discussion with Palin.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 11:42 AM (gmeXX)

63 Glenn Beck as veep?
Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 27, 2016 11:33 AM (0sLvz)
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The seep creep veep!

Posted by: William Miller at April 27, 2016 11:42 AM (NUqwG)

64
I like her. The problem is she doesn't really have the experience you'd want to justify a VP position.

After 8 years of Obama does that even matter?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 11:42 AM (39g3+)

65 Pence or Mitch Daniels to help in Indiana - but only if he is doing the announcement from Indiana.

Does Carly move the needle in Cali at all; he need to push Trump down to about ~100 delegates in Cali - can Carly do that?

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2016 11:42 AM (cXiMR)

66

I still think Cruz/Rubio is the answer. But Rubio insists he's out.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 11:42 AM (qCMvj)

67 /.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 11:43 AM (NUqwG)

68 He's a Canadian plant sent by Trudeaux to undermine the GOPe?

Posted by: Fritz at April 27, 2016 11:43 AM (UzPAd)

69 I like her. The problem is she doesn't really have
the experience you'd want to justify a VP position. However, her
performance in the debates should have embarrassed every single other
candidate running. Posted by: AD at April 27, 2016 11:39 AM (QuixQ)
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Actually, I beg to differ. She is the only R with serious international business experience. VP can be used as proxy again for trade deals and delegated for funeral duty since she knows a lot of the players -- in and out of government -- in the international arena.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 27, 2016 11:43 AM (MIKMs)

70 41 29 I know if I was a VP hopeful I'd love to jump on a ticket that just got trounced in 5 contests and finished 3 of 3 in most of them.
Posted by: FishUnderTheSea at April 27, 2016 11:36 AM (v/sR3)

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For the 187,176th time....primary results and general election results have virtually nothing to do with each other. Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 11:38 AM (0LHZx)

Don't you need to actually get to the general election for this statement to matter? Cruz and this phantom VP pick aren't getting there so what's your point?

Posted by: FishUnderTheSea at April 27, 2016 11:43 AM (v/sR3)

71 Announcing Carly as VP or revamping the CUCK duo isn't a major announcement. At this point who really thinks that will move the needle?

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 11:43 AM (WBahS)

72 that would've been better with my TRUMP sock...

Posted by: SATAN

I dunno, that probably went fine with some segments of the audience...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 27, 2016 11:43 AM (9krrF)

73 I like her. The problem is she doesn't really have the experience you'd want to justify a VP position.

After 8 years of Obama does that even matter?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 11:42 AM (39g3+)

Look, I'd vote for her. But the media won't allow the Obama standard to apply to anybody on the right. I'm not even sure if it applies to anybody other than Obama.

Posted by: AD at April 27, 2016 11:43 AM (QuixQ)

74 Does Carly move the needle in Cali at all; he need to push Trump down to about ~100 delegates in Cali - can Carly do that?

Nope... She's not well liked here...

Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 11:44 AM (O2RFr)

75 I don't think avoiding the obvious possibility of Cruz suspending his campaign is wise. While it's a slim chance, it is possible. Kasich is betraying the Cruz deal already...it may be Cruz realizes the party will screw him at the convention, and he may as well help Trump win outright than let the establishment game the system.

Posted by: Grimaldi at April 27, 2016 11:44 AM (erWRX)

76 There's something about the name, "Carly," that I like. Don't know why; I've never been involved with a girl named Carly. Is it short for Carla, or something else? I've known a Carla or two.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 27, 2016 11:44 AM (/qeSt)

77 Larry Bird endorsement? That's big and would counter Bob Knight.

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 11:44 AM (WBahS)

78 Much ado about nothing.

I'm not saying that Cruz or Kasich beating Hillary is entirely beyond the realm of possibility, but it's highly unlikely. Either one of them would have to run a near-perfect campaign AND get lucky. All bets are on Hillary.

As for Trump, the only question is whether he gets five states or ten.

So they are fighting like badgers over nothing.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 11:44 AM (T/5A0)

79 Does not matter..

I will NEVER VOTE FOR TRUMP, in any election.

Let the flaming begin, I do not care.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at April 27, 2016 11:40 AM (Gl74b)

Okay.

Anything else you want to share with the group?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Pox Vobiscum - Get Your Literate Latinate Curses from the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2016 11:44 AM (hLRSq)

80 He will follow his own damn advice and drop out.

That's the announcement any individual with a shred of integrity would do.

Why does my side always fuck with their own candidates at every god damned chance they have.

Stop with the purity tests.

Stop with the hand wringing over Trump and embrace the FACT that unfortunately he really is the only chance we have against the lying Clinton machine.

I'm just glad the we seem to finally have somebody with a set of balls, who is a true outsider (minus the piles and piles of cash that ordinary joes don't have) and one who will bring tangible change to the very fucked system we currently have.

Posted by: Triple Twenty at April 27, 2016 11:44 AM (JNU6c)

81 Nebraska goes after Indiana, but I haven't seen any polling. If Pence does not endorse--then the writing is pretty much on the wall.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 11:44 AM (mcm0N)

82 For the 187,176th time....primary results and general election results have virtually nothing to do with each other. Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 11:38 AM (0LHZx)

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Yeah..... because there is a whole History of primary losers going on to win the Presidential Election.

smfh

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (8XRCm)

83 My guess is that he is dropping out. Why name a VP when you're sinking?

And I support Ted.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (voOPb)

84 As for Trump, the only question is whether he gets five states or ten.

So they are fighting like badgers over nothing.

What You said...

Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (O2RFr)

85 I think Cruz is going to announce that he will Co-Star in the Porn with his Tranny Look-Alike.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (etV2e)

86 Don't take the brown acid?

Posted by: Joe Mama at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (t9SwN)

87 Trump is an unlikable centrist left douchebag, and he's still miles better than Hillary Clinton. Compared to her, the dude is Mister Rogers. And just watching the heads explode on the left with him winning would be entertainment enough for years.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (39g3+)

88 VP Bobby Knight.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (k4M/B)

89 it may be Cruz realizes the party will screw him at the convention, and he may as well help Trump win outright than let the establishment game the system.

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I think many of us Cruz supporters would be extremely disappointed if he were to withdrawal. You can't give up now. Would seem to hurt his brand. But who knows.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (gmeXX)

90 Cruz is going to announce his plan for Bold Action on Climate Change. Thus destroying any remaining shred of morale among the sane.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (dBmVV)

91 And the news will be filled tonight with highlights of Trump mocking the Major-ness of whatever it is.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 27, 2016 11:46 AM (h/uSM)

92 If he wanted to maximize his options he would say, "It's time to put aside our differences and support the GOP nominee. That Nominee is Donal Trump. The big difference between Donal Trump and Hillary Clinton is that Donal Trump loves this great nation and will not give it away to undocumented invaders."

Posted by: huh? at April 27, 2016 11:46 AM (Bbcs8)

93 I will NEVER VOTE FOR TRUMP, in any election.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at April 27, 2016 11:40 AM (Gl74b)

____

Gracias / Thank You

Posted by: Democrat Party Permanent Majority at April 27, 2016 11:46 AM (0LHZx)

94 I see Change a'coming...

There will need to be a liberal application of butthurt cream, but it will be worth it in the end.

The Presidency is like a box of chocolates, you don't know what you're going to get until you bite into it.

What an exciting time to be alive.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2016 11:46 AM (Zs4uk)

95 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 11:46 AM (kff5f)

96 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 11:46 AM (kff5f)

97 So are we taking bets?

Cruz suspends
Cruz doubles down

Takers?

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 11:47 AM (nbrY/)

98 As for Trump, the only question is whether he gets five states or ten.

So they are fighting like badgers over nothing.

What You said...

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Honey Trump don't care

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 27, 2016 11:47 AM (h/uSM)

99 He's going to announce that he has the winning numbers to the power ball, and will give them to the RNC if they'll sign a binding contract giving him the nomination.

What? My wild speculation is *just* as valid as anyone else's.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 11:47 AM (kff5f)

100 >>Cruz doubles down

That will be the name of the Porn.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2016 11:47 AM (etV2e)

101 Radio is reporting that Carly gave the Cruz campaign her tax returns. And that she is in Indianapolis today. So, sounds like that is 4:00.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 27, 2016 11:47 AM (B5dMQ)

102 Cruz was speaking to reporters this morning about how the great people of Indiana, with their Midwestern values, are going to set things right, to deny the Evil Donald his 1,237, so that the AnoinTED can take the nomination on the n! ballot, so that, as the Right Hand of the Almighty, the AnoinTED will smite the Godless Hillary in November and all will be well.

So expect an announcement at 4 pm today that Carly will be his VP.

If the 4 pm presser isn't Cruz dropping out he'll continue to kill his brand. What happens when you hang with Romney.

As an ex-CEO, can't Carly find a better way to get out of the house. Take up golf. Learn to fly a plane. Fuck the pool boy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 11:47 AM (r1fLd)

103 Does it have to do with the next Star Wars movie? Cuz I've already seen the leaked sketches for Carrie Fisher's adult underpants. They look AWESOME!!!!11oneoneone

Posted by: CrustyB at April 27, 2016 11:47 AM (GvSpB)

104 88 VP Bobby Knight.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (k4M/B)

Um, he's already endorsed The Donald.

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 11:48 AM (nbrY/)

105 90
Cruz is going to announce his plan for Bold Action on Climate Change.
Thus destroying any remaining shred of morale among the sane. - ghost of hallelujah

Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 11:48 AM (Bbsg+)

106 Indiana voters: Don't waste your vote on Cruz, he's dropping out.

Posted by: Ben Carson at April 27, 2016 11:48 AM (nFdGS)

107 Maybe he's announcing is NBA brackets. Bet he gets them right, too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 11:48 AM (imhnn)

108 @97

Cruz suspends.
Accepts VP slot under Trump
GOPe's plotzes.
Trump/Cruz unleash stemwinder after stemwinder against the hildebeast.

Trump/Cruz win the general in a landslide.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (3MZBD)

109
Oh shit we lost the crucial sippin_bourbon vote
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone

There's still the gin drinker.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (k4M/B)

110 Unveiling the 'deal' he and Trump cut back at the beginning would be a 'BIG' announcement.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (cXiMR)

111 Whatever it is, it won't change the fact that we are so very very very boned.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (evdj2)

112 Cruz suspends
Cruz doubles down

Takers?

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I'll vote against the he suspends. But not sure what I would vote for on. I guess on this I'll go with the early speculation frontrunner and Carly as VP. But I really don't think that is it.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (gmeXX)

113 70 41 29 I know if I was a VP hopeful I'd love to jump on a ticket that just got trounced in 5 contests and finished 3 of 3 in most of them.
Posted by: FishUnderTheSea at April 27, 2016 11:36 AM (v/sR3)

____

For the 187,176th time....primary results and general election results have virtually nothing to do with each other. Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 11:38 AM (0LHZx)

Don't you need to actually get to the general election for this statement to matter? Cruz and this phantom VP pick aren't getting there so what's your point?
Posted by: FishUnderTheSea at April 27, 2016 11:43 AM (v/sR3)

_____

Maybe I misread. I thought you were saying you wouldn't want to be on a ticket, in the general, that lost the last primaries. I've heard this argument a lot, that since Cruz can't win Ohio in the primary, how can he win it in the general? Or Florida.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (0LHZx)

114 I was on board with Cruz beating Trump in the GOP primary, but if the game is now taking it away at the Convention with a huge shortfall of delegates, I think we have a much better shot with Trump than some smoke-filled room ticket.

Even Republicans I know that aren't on board with Trump were basically saying the same thing. Time to move on, take our lumps with a flawed candidate, and start going after Hillary.

And maybe the GOP leaders can do some soul searching for why there was such a revolt.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (sDOgQ)

115

I'm Batman.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (Bbsg+)

116 88 VP Bobby Knight.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (k4M/B)

You've got to admit, it would make close votes in the Senate more interesting.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (iLoHX)

117 I like Carly. Smart, capable, and smarter than any of the media.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (r65B3)

118 If the 4 pm presser isn't Cruz dropping out he'll continue to kill his brand. What happens when you hang with Romney.

Yeah, he's been kind of downhill since he started getting all that 'help' from the GOP. Cruz ran a brilliant campaign for months without them and was on the rise, then he started to compromise and taint his brand.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (39g3+)

119 Trump/RuPaul 2016

Wildcard, bitches.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 11:50 AM (xuouz)

120 He is going to announce his VP pick will be: himself, in a Trump administration.

Posted by: Joe Mama at April 27, 2016 11:50 AM (t9SwN)

121 I think that if Ted was going to suspend, he'd do it from Texas.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 11:50 AM (evdj2)

122 It's probably a Pence endorsement.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 11:50 AM (4ErVI)

123 There's something about the name, "Carly," that I like. Don't know why;

This?

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/195765915026755757/

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 11:50 AM (1xUj/)

124 Bleah. I'm officially back to "no candidate". Ted just can't seem to get it done.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 27, 2016 11:37 AM (9krrF)

Well...

This is how dumb the Republican Party is.

They put in Sloppy ~~Joe~~ John to block Cruz, and instead elected Trump.

Idiocracy Too: The Grand Ole Party Serves Sloppy John's and Gets Trumped

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 11:50 AM (qCMvj)

125 VP Bobby Knight.
--------
Chair-tosser endorsed Trump!

Some headliner at The Nation called it the "Brotherhood of Bullies"

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 11:50 AM (NUqwG)

126 Could be a Pence endorsement.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at April 27, 2016 11:41 AM (t5zYU)

That makes the most sense, I think. A VP announcement seems unlikely to affect the nominating contest and might hurt more than it would help. An endorsement from a major politician in an upcoming key state, to mitigate what was always going to be the Trumpmentum coming from two weeks of primary results in states where teh Donald had a regional advantage, would be tactically astute and more up Cruz's alley.

Posted by: HTL at April 27, 2016 11:51 AM (gVyJ+)

127 It's probably a Pence endorsement.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 11:50 AM (4ErVI)

an endorsement doesn't sound like a press conference big type of thing

but, maybe he's playing the Trump card now - everything is YUGE!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 11:51 AM (qCMvj)

128 I hate to rain on the Trump parade but Hillary wins anyway. Its going to take an act of God to save us from her. She'll win if she has to personally shoot Trump in the face. Then the Obama administration will call it self defense and the press will portray her as heroic and empowered.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 11:51 AM (39g3+)

129 I still think Cruz/Rubio is the answer. But Rubio insists he's out.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 11:42 AM (qCMvj)

Well, actually, that'd be one hell of an announcement.

and a probable game changer.

Becuz, that's a ticket that's gives everyone (mostly) everything (mostly).

Conservatives get Cruz and the GOPe/Romney wing get Mario. Again ala Reagan/Bush.

Not a Mario fan at all, but I can see how that might play out well.

Still, this move is at least a month too late (but probably more).

YMMV.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 27, 2016 11:52 AM (0cMkb)

130 I'd like this primary to be over already, but I don't think Cruz is suspending yet. He will at least stay in and see how Indiana goes.

Unless he is out of cash.

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 11:52 AM (nbrY/)

131 I've got a major announcement too coming in May about that lying, corrupt, money laundering, organized crime family Clinton.

Hillary, Bill, Chelsea, Huma, Cheryl, and more are heading for a Federal Prison.

Posted by: FBI Director at April 27, 2016 11:52 AM (B03+6)

132 CRUZ / CRUZ 2016

He's so awesome he will be his own running mate.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 11:52 AM (0LHZx)

133 60/40 it's a VP pick. Cruz is out of direct ways to damage Trump.
Even with establishment acquiescence he's still in trouble. A VP pick might energize people.

Here's the deal though, the media won't cover it. They'll immediately go to Trump's response.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at April 27, 2016 11:52 AM (tM4uk)

134 You guys did know that I'm one of the Cruz campaign advisors, right?

For finance, no less.

Posted by: Neil Bush at April 27, 2016 11:52 AM (t9SwN)

135 I'm Batman.
Posted by: Ted Cruz at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (Bbsg+)

heh.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 11:52 AM (qCMvj)

136 Well, Indiana is now must win for Cruz so whatever is announced I hope it helps him in Indiana.

Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 11:52 AM (LISuA)

137 Cruz's VP: the Pale Horse.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 11:53 AM (imhnn)

138 @108

Cruz suspends.
Accepts VP slot under Trump
GOPe's plotzes.
Trump/Cruz unleash stemwinder after stemwinder against the hildebeast.

Trump/Cruz win the general in a landslide.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (3MZBD)

***

I like Cruz, but that would be a bad move with two people with such high negatives. Let Carson be VP and put Cruz on SCOTUS, or AG if Cristy Creme wasn't promised it. Assuming Trump can beat crooked Hillary.

Posted by: lymond at April 27, 2016 11:53 AM (wH6vD)

139 128 I hate to rain on the Trump parade but Hillary wins anyway. Its going to take an act of God to save us from her. She'll win if she has to personally shoot Trump in the face. Then the Obama administration will call it self defense and the press will portray her as heroic and empowered.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2

Because according to the media She's "Historic"... or hysteric either way it's a done deal...

Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 11:53 AM (O2RFr)

140 116 88 VP Bobby Knight.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (k4M/B)

You've got to admit, it would make close votes in the Senate more interesting.
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Aficionado at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (iLoHX)

---

Definitely would make C-Span much more interesting.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 27, 2016 11:53 AM (rlfds)

141 I still think Cruz/Rubio is the answer.
-----------
The Dumb and Joke ticket!

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 11:53 AM (NUqwG)

142 Why is Cruz bothering to name a VP when he has virtually no chance of winning the nomination? There's no shame in not having the delegates and a "path to the nomination", but he looks like a loser picking a running mate NOW.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2016 11:53 AM (MMUt4)

143 I hate "big announcement scheduled at...." Just spill it and be done with it.

A couple of years ago there was a horrendous bus crash packed with school kids. They had a scheduled announcement at such and such time instead of just giving the names of the dead. It was cruel and political and they all had to thank each other for what a great job they were doing blah blah blah.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 11:53 AM (iQIUe)

144 An endorsement from Hunter Pence might be cool to baseball fans, but I don't see how it qualifies as a huge announcement. I mean, sure he's a great player but...

what?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 11:53 AM (39g3+)

145 I see our Trumptard infestation has returned.

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius' Underpants at April 27, 2016 11:53 AM (nUqBH)

146 With Presidential bearing, Cruz will announce that for the good of the country he will embrace the suck and so should we.

Posted by: No Prophet Here, So No Stoning Please at April 27, 2016 11:53 AM (jnRfN)

147 Any deal between Trump and Cruz is as bad as Cruz Kasich.

Posted by: akak at April 27, 2016 11:53 AM (0HQPC)

148 "I think many of us Cruz supporters would be extremely disappointed if he were to withdrawal. You can't give up now."

Cruz is young. Trump has taught Cruz a lot of lessons without destroying Cruz's career. Trump also owes a lot to Cruz. Similar to Megyn Kelly. Cruz can hurt Trump but it isn't in Cruz's best interest to do so.

Posted by: huh? at April 27, 2016 11:54 AM (j2xmV)

149 Would be funny if he just dropped out. There goes all the contested convention talk. We'd have to find something else to argue about.

Posted by: brak at April 27, 2016 11:54 AM (MJuTN)

150 So the dems have helped us pick the one candidate that can't beat Hillary. Bill knew what he was doing when he called Trump and encouraged him to run.

Posted by: N.W.A. - Hot Fuzz at April 27, 2016 11:54 AM (uhftQ)

151 113 Maybe I misread. I thought you were saying you wouldn't want to be on a ticket, in the general, that lost the last primaries. I've heard this argument a lot, that since Cruz can't win Ohio in the primary, how can he win it in the general? Or Florida. Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 11:49 AM (0LHZx)

One that is in free fall, lost the last primaries, and isn't going to win the nomination. I would not want to join that ticket.

Posted by: FishUnderTheSea at April 27, 2016 11:54 AM (v/sR3)

152 I hate to rain on the Trump parade but Hillary wins anyway. Its going to take an act of God to save us from her. She'll win if she has to personally shoot Trump in the face. Then the Obama administration will call it self defense and the press will portray her as heroic and empowered.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

The problems is, do you really think if Ted Cruz steals it at the Convention he's going to then go on to beat Hillary?

At this point, I really do think you can make the case that a deeply flawed Trump would outperform a backroom deal Cruz.

Ted Cruz would have a hard time winning anyway, he's a great conservative but a piss poor candidate.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 11:54 AM (sDOgQ)

153 In a world without Trump a Cruz/Fiorina ticket would have been great to go into the general.

Though, without Trmp, I think JEB! or maybe Rubio would be walking to the nomination right now and preparing their best way to lose gracefully to Hillary without ruffling any feathers just like McCain & Romney did dutifully.

Instead prepare for a Trumpian mocking of what I'm sure he will brand as the Cruz/Fiorina Beauty Pagent, Charm, & Totes Losing Extravaganza!

Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 27, 2016 11:54 AM (10hEu)

154 Perhaps Ted will announce that he now self identifies as some form of Weasel.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2016 11:55 AM (ptqRm)

155 @138

Trump needs an insider, Cruz is an insider but not in a bad way.

Also I would love to see him run roughshod as President
of the Seante.

It will become must see TV.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 27, 2016 11:55 AM (3MZBD)

156 He's going to announce that he finally remembers that it's a hoop, not a ring. A hoop.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 11:55 AM (Fmupd)

157 Read this you ******* bunch of ******** ***** *****es.

http://bit.ly/1QAHp4c

Goddamnit I am fired up.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 11:55 AM (xuouz)

158 Announcing Carly a tour VP is hardly a big announcement. The Cruz campaign continues to disappoint.

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 11:55 AM (WBahS)

159 Would be funny if he just dropped out.

as a heart attack.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 11:55 AM (evdj2)

160 123
There's something about the name, "Carly," that I like. Don't know why;

This?

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/195765915026755757/
*
*
Y'know, I hadn't even thought about her except when "You're So Vain" or "Anticipation" comes on the oldies radio! Maybe that is why.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 27, 2016 11:56 AM (/qeSt)

161 Here's the deal though, the media won't cover it. They'll immediately go to Trump's esponse.

It might be sort of amusing-in a dark way-to guess
Trump's clessyresponse:

"Who'd want to look at that face the rest of the campaign?"

"Loser Ted making a last ditch effort to get attention."

"Who cares, Lyin Ted?"

Such an adult, Donald Trump

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 11:56 AM (w4NZ8)

162 137 Cruz's VP: the Pale Horse.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 11:53 AM (imhnn)

_______________

Chavez y Chavez?

Posted by: FishUnderTheSea at April 27, 2016 11:56 AM (v/sR3)

163 Cruz got schlonged last night. And yet, what we are talking about is what will he announce at 4 pm instead of asking him about last night.

Go figure.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 11:56 AM (/tuJf)

164 88 VP Bobby Knight.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 11:45 AM (k4M/B)

Bobby Knight running with Lyin' Ted. Needs to pick up the chair and sit himself down. Used to admire his passion. SAD!

Posted by: D Treezy at April 27, 2016 11:56 AM (wx6iv)

165 Seriously... Right now I don't think either of them can beat Hillary! Just a gut feeling...

Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 11:56 AM (O2RFr)

166 clessyresponse=classy response.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 11:56 AM (w4NZ8)

167 Cruz/Rubio - The Latino Amigos for the win!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 11:57 AM (so+oy)

168 Posted by: naturalfake at April 27, 2016 11:52 AM (0cMkb)

Nope. Rubio is firmly in the Establishment camp, and Cruz has staked out the anti-Establishment position, just not as convincingly as Trump. If Cruz says "Rubio and I will run as a team" it simply feeds into Trump's narrative that says Cruz is really the Establishment, too.

If you haven't read Scot Adams's take on Trump as "Master Persuader" you really should. I say this not because I agree (which I have come to do) but because Adams has made a series of predictions which have all come true. That indicates to me that he's viewing this through the right frame.

I don't know that he's right (I think he is, but we could both be wrong), but he's got a solid case.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 11:57 AM (kff5f)

169 And maybe the GOP leaders can do some soul searching for why there was such a revolt.

Posted by: Bullpup

Never gonna happen

Posted by: Karl Rove (GOPe) at April 27, 2016 11:57 AM (B03+6)

170 The problems is, do you really think if Ted Cruz steals it at the Convention he's going to then go on to beat Hillary?

No, I think Cruz has even less of a chance of beating Hillary. I'm just trying to remind people of reality on the ground out there. Hillary has all the cards, the table, both chairs, and a gun on everyone in the room.

And the GOPe is effectively on her side, because they are afraid of making her angry or running anyone that will actually campaign against her.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 11:57 AM (39g3+)

171 139---I've come around to Hillary being the next Prez. I live in a blue state so my vote won't matter, but I'll vote for Trump because, fuck it....the US is a train wreck anyway, might as well go down with the hand on the throttle.
Hillary doesn't win only if one of two terrible things happen:

She dies, or is incapacitated by a health "event."
We are hit by a terror attack and people want an alpha male.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (MMUt4)

172 Right now, somebody needs to sit down with Bernie and convince him that the cause of World Socialism REQUIRES him to run third party. Because otherwise, Hillary wins.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (iLoHX)

173 I like Cruz, but that would be a bad move with two people with such high negatives. Let Carson be VP and put Cruz on SCOTUS, or AG if Cristy Creme wasn't promised it. Assuming Trump can beat crooked Hillary.
Posted by: lymond

I agree, Ben Carson would be great optics. Someone like Cruz is not going to bring in new voters and would probably repel a lot of independents that would vote for Trump.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (sDOgQ)

174 I drink bourbon through a straw

Posted by: bourbon_straw_drinker at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (/542q)

175 155 @138

Trump needs an insider, Cruz is an insider but not in a bad way.

Also I would love to see him run roughshod as President
of the Seante.

It will become must see TV.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 27, 2016 11:55 AM (3MZBD)

-----------------

This has always been my wish. And if things get turned around, I'd love to see Trump as prez of the senate. The number of heads exploding would be the same.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (Fmupd)

176 Carly... meh.

She is a fighter. A well spoken, well prepared fighter (not the Donald Bidenesque verbal diarrhea/mean girl Tweeting type fighter), but she is a squish!

She was a McCain flunky in '08. She's the bad kind of California Repube, not the Reagan kind. And while it's wonderful that she worked herself through the ranks in the business world, her stints in leadership don't exactly cloak her in glory.

Sure, it puts a woman on the ticket, but in the larger scheme of things, this would be an iffy choice.

Posted by: SMOD/Orbital Nukes 2016! -- The only way to be sure at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (H9MG5)

177 Cruz got schlonged last night. And yet, what we are
talking about is what will he announce at 4 pm instead of asking him
about last night.

Go figure.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 11:56 AM (/tuJf)
=====Did anyone expect anything from the Acela corridor primary? Does anyone expect anything but D in the general?

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (MIKMs)

178 Point was made above that the unbound PA delegates will mostly go for Trump, so that he gained something like 150 delegates yesterday. So even if AnoinTED wins Indiana, where he's behind, how does Trump not win on the first ballot? We're talking loaves and fishes.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (r1fLd)

179 "Trump will lose" losers please form a line behind Jeb Bush and Barack Obama. There will be punch and turds served afterwards.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 11:59 AM (xuouz)

180 We are hit by a terror attack and people want an alpha male.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (MMUt4)

========
We are over due for a terrorist attack.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 11:59 AM (iQIUe)

181

No clue why Cruz would drop out, or why people think he should.

He's in second place, and has run a smart campaign for the most part. He's been wielding a fight against so many adversaries.

It ain't over until it is over.

Trump may/may not have 1237 at the end of the race (is it still mathematically possible?). If he does, it's over, if he doesn't ... rules say...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 12:00 PM (qCMvj)

182 Rush made an interesting point yesterday. Isn't it amazing the media aren't screaming to get looks at Trumps taxes? That issue has completely gone away in the last two weeks.

Rush believes that's because they media wants to use those taxes to make Hillary's case for her that Trump can't possibly be "the friend of the working man" that he's been so far in the primaries. Hillary recognizes the danger of losing the working class to Trump, obviously.

Remember what the media did with Romney's taxes? Rush thinks they want to do the same with Trump's.

Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 12:00 PM (LISuA)

183 "Hillary has all the cards, the table, both chairs, and a gun on everyone in the room."

Defeatism and wrong. Hillary is quite beatable.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 12:00 PM (r1fLd)

184 he's going to tell us he slept in a Holiday Inn last night...

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 27, 2016 12:00 PM (WhYLb)

185 >>Did anyone expect anything from the Acela corridor primary? Does anyone expect anything but D in the general?

No. But the point is Cruz didn't want to spend all day talking about losses last night. He wanted to changed the conversation. He did.

Too little too late but a good tactic.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 12:01 PM (/tuJf)

186 80 He will follow his own damn advice and drop out.

That's the announcement any individual with a shred of integrity would do.

I'm just glad the we seem to finally have somebody with a set of balls, who is a true outsider (minus the piles and piles of cash that ordinary joes don't have) and one who will bring tangible change to the very fucked system we currently have.

Posted by: Triple Twenty at April 27, 2016 11:44 AM (JNU6c)

*********************

Trump likes polling. So let's go through some of it. Unfavorables among married women is at 70%---this is a group Republicans sometimes win.

A Republican running in the general need near 58% of the white vote to win--women makeup about 52% of the electorate.

Then there are the state by state general election polls Trump is about tied with Hillary in Arizona but also Mississippi--which hasn't voted for a Democratic President in 40 years.

Then a couple of days ago--the GW Battleground polling came out. A generic Republican beats Hillary in the area of foreign affairs by 48% to 44%. When they tested Trump against Hillary in this area Hillary beat Trump by an astounding 60% to 33%.

Now someone made the observation that most voters are not "foreign affairs/national security " voters which is probably true most of the time until something happens and then there are a lot of sudden national security voters--and the soccer moms--and dads--go running to Hillary.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 12:01 PM (mcm0N)

187 180 We are hit by a terror attack and people want an alpha male.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (MMUt4)

========
We are over due for a terrorist attack.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 11:59 AM (iQIUe)

The media can hide or downplay anything short of a straight-up nuking.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at April 27, 2016 12:01 PM (iLoHX)

188 He's transitioning...

...to warm-blooded.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 12:01 PM (1xUj/)

189 Cruz has staked out the anti-Establishment position, just not as convincingly as Trump.

Limbaugh pointed out yesterday, according to his website, that Trump effectively stole the rebel image from Cruz. Until that point he was Straight outta Congress, the tattooed guy with the cigarette dangling in the poster, the guy who stood up to them all alone.

Trump demolished that by being more bombastic, more in your face, more unwilling to back down and apologize, and shouting "build that wall" over and over. It was like trying to give a speech when Chris Farley crashes through the wall shirtless and yelling.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:01 PM (39g3+)

190 And maybe the GOP leaders can do some soul searching for why there was such a revolt.

------------------

They already know exactly why there was a revolt. The problem is, is that they don't give a shit.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 12:01 PM (Fmupd)

191 I agree, Ben Carson would be great optics. Someone like Cruz is not going to bring in new voters and would probably repel a lot of independents that would vote for Trump.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (sDOgQ)

and for some reason, he's starting to sound like Crazy Uncle Joe Biden.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 12:01 PM (qCMvj)

192 No, I think Cruz has even less of a chance of beating Hillary. I'm just trying to remind people of reality on the ground out there. Hillary has all the cards, the table, both chairs, and a gun on everyone in the room.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

___________

She goes in with a big advantage, but depending on what poll you're looking at, if 2% of the country changes over to Trump, he wins. That's easily within a big turnout on Trump's side.

And individual states like PA, Hillary is up like 2 points on Trump. If he made a big play for the rust belt, who knows what could happen.

I see Cruz winning less states than Romney.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:02 PM (sDOgQ)

193 Katie Heinz, an IN statehouse reporter tweets the following:

Spokeswoman for @GovPenceIN also confirms Pence does not have any more meetings scheduled w/@tedcruz ahead of IN primary @IndyThisWeek @rtv6

and

Gov. Pence's office confirms he will not be at the 4pm Cruz rally. He will be in Lake County.

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 27, 2016 12:02 PM (0sLvz)

194 How does one have a "must-win" state when they are already mathematically eliminated?

'zat Common Core math?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 27, 2016 12:02 PM (HMt16)

195 No. But the point is Cruz didn't want to spend all day talking about losses last night. He wanted to changed the conversation. He did.

Too little too late but a good tactic.

--------

To some extent true. Now he better deliver on a big announcement. I guess I'm hopeful it is a Pence endorsement - though early word is it is not. That would be helpful to him and would generally qualify as a big announcement without the sort of desperate quality that a VP announcement would have.

Would Mitch Daniels have the same effect?

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 12:03 PM (gmeXX)

196 >>>34 Dropping out of the race and announcing he is going to take the VP slot with Trump.

Voltron is forming.

Trump/Cruz 2016 - GOTTERDAMARUNGG NOW!!
Posted by: Kreplach at April 27, 2016 11:37 AM (3MZBD)

Please, please, please.

Posted by: m at April 27, 2016 12:03 PM (S/1cF)

197 An endorsement for a guy with no mathematical chance?

Posted by: Wingy Menone at April 27, 2016 12:03 PM (QlyN5)

198 We are hit by a terror attack and people want an alpha male.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (MMUt4)
=====
The real problem with that wish is that DT is not alpha. He whines, he ineffectually gestures, boasts about his closets full of gold/shoes, but he has no central principles. Oh, but he loves the 'little people' who love him.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 27, 2016 12:04 PM (MIKMs)

199 How does one have a "must-win" state when they are already mathematically eliminated?

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Commitment to Club for Growth.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:04 PM (NUqwG)

200 And maybe the GOP leaders can do some soul searching for why there was such a revolt.

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They already know exactly why there was a revolt. The problem is, is that they don't give a shit.
Posted by: Soona

THIS! They. Don't. Care.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:04 PM (Jcvz2)

201 >>Trump likes polling. So let's go through some of it. Unfavorables among married women is at 70%---this is a group Republicans sometimes win.

Romney won this group. It's no guarantee that of a win but Republicans don't even stand a chance without winning married women.

For a campaign that lived on polls day in and day out Trump supporters don't seem to want to talk about the general elections polls very much.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 12:04 PM (/tuJf)

202 The story linked on the headlines thread about the recrigerators going dark in Venezuela is a clear example of press bias. A better headline would have been Entire Country Adopts Paleo Diet.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 12:04 PM (imhnn)

203 How does one have a "must-win" state when they are already mathematically eliminated?

Must Win to prevent a first round Trump victory. If Trump gets 1237, it's over and he's the nominee.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 12:04 PM (evdj2)

204 Defeatism and wrong. Hillary is quite beatable.

get back to us in November. Obama was a horrible candidate that shouldn't have ever gotten 1% of the primary vote. He won by a large margin against McCain. He was unpopular, with a lousy economy and a huge disastrous foreign policy failure just before the election. He won again against Romney.

President Clinton. Get used to saying that again.

Not the president we want.
Not even the president we need,
but the president we deserve.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:04 PM (39g3+)

205 182---I love Rush. He's a great broadcaster/educator. But he's a piss-poor prognosticator, and he only does his "See? I told You So?" shtick when he's actually right--which is rare.

Also, The country is not as conservative as Rush (and Mark Levin) say it is. I wish it weren't so, but it's not.
"Center-right" is not "conservative."

Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2016 12:04 PM (MMUt4)

206 "Trump will lose" losers please form a line behind Jeb Bush and Barack Obama. There will be punch and turds served afterwards.
.............
Trump is getting less than half of GOP voters.. arguably, that is (at best) one-quarter of all voters in the country. That is his ceiling,, perhaps some percentage of Cruz/Kasich voters will vote for him in the end, but it still will not take him anywhere near the 50.1% of voters he would need to take the Presidency..

And that is further complicated by the fact that popular vote doesn't even do it.. electoral votes that have been guaranteed red states are now in play with Trump at the head of the ticket.

We lose. Deny this fact all you want, but 25% to 35% of the vote loses to Hillary. And she gets 3-4 SCOTUS picks over the next 4-8 years and amnesty.

Thank you very much.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 12:04 PM (so+oy)

207 129
Well, actually, that'd be one hell of an announcement.

and a probable game changer.

Becuz, that's a ticket that's gives everyone (mostly) everything (mostly).

Conservatives get Cruz and the GOPe/Romney wing get Mario. Again ala Reagan/Bush.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 27, 2016 11:52 AM (0cMkb)

And America gets open borders and amnesty.

Posted by: rickl at April 27, 2016 12:05 PM (zoehZ)

208 My father loved Carling Black Label beer. My nickname was Mabel as in the ad campaign. So don't talk to me about labels or blackness.

Posted by: Carly Fiorina at April 27, 2016 12:05 PM (nckx1)

209 Hmmm. Maybe Ted's actually won a "Major Award!"... like a leg lamp?

Posted by: Old Man Parker at April 27, 2016 12:05 PM (H9MG5)

210 Voltron?

"Form blazing sword!"

And then Voltron did battle with the mightiest monster he ever did face - Krugtron.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 27, 2016 12:05 PM (px66F)

211 "Gov. Pence's office confirms he will not be at the 4pm Cruz rally. He will be in Lake County."

That leaves Mitch Daniels ...

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2016 12:05 PM (cXiMR)

212 Trump's statement last night that regarding Benghazi , 'Hillary slept through her 3 a.m. phone call' was .....enjoyable.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 12:05 PM (Bbsg+)

213 Maybe his big announcement is he's gonna quit and endorse the winner and virtual President-elect-- Trump.

Posted by: Random Thought Generator at April 27, 2016 12:05 PM (gYfnZ)

214 Whatever it is, it will be guaranteed to have the #NeverTrump types feeling confident, feeling a little optimistic that something can be done to stop the monster that lives in their heads.

And then Donald Trump will take their lunch money. Again.

Posted by: Monty James at April 27, 2016 12:06 PM (ZXcF2)

215 Not the president we want.
Not even the president we need,
but the president we deserve.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:04 PM (39g3+)

Yep. We let the Left create a stupid electorate and now we are going to get a vile government, good and hard.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at April 27, 2016 12:06 PM (iLoHX)

216
Remember what the media did with Romney's taxes? Rush thinks they want to do the same with Trump's.
Posted by: MTF

Trump hasn't paid any taxes in at least ten years.

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 27, 2016 12:06 PM (k4M/B)

217 Chief Justice Ted Cruz

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 12:07 PM (Bbsg+)

218 The refrigerators are going out all across Central America. They will not be refrozen in our lifetimes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 12:07 PM (imhnn)

219 Little Mitchie's back?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:07 PM (0LHZx)

220 Why totally ignore that he might suspend?

Posted by: wte9 at April 27, 2016 12:07 PM (xYr9U)

221 Really Ace's first post of the day is a major announcement that he's awake.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 12:07 PM (4ErVI)

222 meanwhile kasich is having a press conference to announce that he is entering the Coney island July 4th
hot dog eating contest!

Posted by: Avi at April 27, 2016 12:07 PM (fijdj)

223 He is the very model of a modern MAJOR general?

Posted by: Show Tunes! at April 27, 2016 12:07 PM (t9SwN)

224 To some extent true. Now he better deliver on a big announcement. I guess I'm hopeful it is a Pence endorsement - though early word is it is not. That would be helpful to him and would generally qualify as a big announcement without the sort of desperate quality that a VP announcement would have.

Would Mitch Daniels have the same effect?
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 12:03 PM (gmeXX)

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Big announcement? Only one thing comes to mind. The much-sought-after Katshit endorsement.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 12:07 PM (Fmupd)

225 That leaves...Daniels ...
Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2016 12:05 PM (cXiMR)
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An endorsement that would complement the Dumb and Joke ticket announcement quite well.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:08 PM (NUqwG)

226 And maybe the GOP leaders can do some soul searching for why there was such a revolt.

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They already know exactly why there was a revolt. The problem is, is that they don't give a shit.
Posted by: Soona

THIS! They. Don't. Care.
Posted by: rickb223

I honestly think they were in such a bubble in that DC Corridor, they didn't understand. They don;t have kids that suddenly go to a school and half the people there don't speak English or are surrounded by billboards in Spanish.

It also doesn't help that the big money in the GOP is from people like the Koch Brothers that absolutely worship at the altar of open borders.

Eventually, the smarter ones will realize money doesn't win elections, votes do. Ask Jeb if he regrets staking his candidacy on Amnesty.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:08 PM (sDOgQ)

227 I always put the toilet ring back down.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at April 27, 2016 12:08 PM (nckx1)

228 180 We are hit by a terror attack and people want an alpha male.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (MMUt4)

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We are over due for a terrorist attack.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 11:59 AM

**************

GW Battleground polling recently came out. A generic Republican beats Hillary in the area of foreign affairs by 48% to 44%. When they tested Trump against Hillary in this area Hillary beat Trump by an astounding 60% to 33%.

If you don't understand statistical significance--a change like that in the results when you "solve" for "generic republican"--is remarkable. IOW--something you do write home about.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 12:08 PM (mcm0N)

229 Trump is getting less than half of GOP voters.. arguably, that is (at best) one-quarter of all voters in the country.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 12:04 PM (so+oy)

____

OK using that brilliant logic, Hillary is getting 55% of the Democrat voters, which is (at best) one third of all voters in the country.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:08 PM (0LHZx)

230 Romney won this group

Yeah he won women, he won independents, he won men, and somehow, he still lost. Funny, that. Either the exit polling is trash, or some shenanigans were going on.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:08 PM (39g3+)

231 From Scott Dilbert Adams:

"Trump rolled out the 'woman card' attack on Clinton. Expect lots of backlash and hollering about sexism. Also expect that 100% of the voting public knows that the 'woman card' accusation is a persuasion death blow to Clinton's campaign. And Trump is the only candidate alive who would dare say it out loud."

Hillary is no Bill. Her instinct is to do things that will pile up votes in states that are already Deep Blue, but alienate voters elsewhere. Overplaying the Woman Card will do this. Being vocally anti-gun will too. She spent years in AK and didn't learn a goddamn thing.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 12:09 PM (r1fLd)

232 We are hit by a terror attack and people want an alpha male.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2016 11:58 AM (MMUt4)

And so they decide to elect a Truther.

Posted by: AD at April 27, 2016 12:09 PM (QuixQ)

233 Limbaugh pointed out yesterday, according to his website, that Trump effectively stole the rebel image from Cruz. Until that point he was Straight outta Congress, the tattooed guy with the cigarette dangling in the poster, the guy who stood up to them all alone.

Yep. I don't know that I would have put it that way until I'd heard someone else do so, but I largely agree.

Cruz wanted to make being an anti-establishmentarian "classy." He wanted to signal that he was just as "serious" as the establishment, but holds grass-roots values. Indeed, those are both probably actually true statements about him.

The problem is that much of the grass-roots isn't interested in "class" or "serious" anymore. They tried that and got schlonged. So now it's time for "bombastic" "classless" and no-holds-barred.

In a race without Trump, Cruz would have been eliminated long ago because all the money was behind Heb! and Rubio, and Cruz wouldn't have even gotten the air-time that he has (first as a quasi-supporter of, and then as a foil to, Trump).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 12:09 PM (kff5f)

234 For a campaign that lived on polls day in and day out Trump supporters don't seem to want to talk about the general elections polls very much.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 12:04 PM (/tuJf)

"Now now, hey settle down. Look, hey listen here you Trumpkins.

OK here's the deal. Ignore the primary results and the voter turnout numbers and the photo-negative media landscape where the Republican nominee is driving the cycle and setting the narrative and the crossover voting and the overton window being shifted on immigration and the military and international trade.

And ignore the delegate count and the spending numbers and the Bush dynasty being told its effete pathetic runt son is out of his element.

Ignore the cultural shift which is reviving an indescribably toxic Republican brand and ignore the fractures in the democrat coalition (which has always thrived on message discipline).

Ignore all that shit, ok? Ignore it! And look at RCP poll number.

Look, that's a +8. Can you fucking count?

I rest my case, Trumpkin."

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 12:09 PM (xuouz)

235 The Presidency is like a box of chocolates, you don't know what you're going to get until you bite into it.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2016 11:46 AM (Zs4uk)

In the case of either a Trump or a Hillary presidency, we all know exactly what we're biting into: a turd.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 27, 2016 12:09 PM (uiwCw)

236 All the ladies love a military man.

Posted by: Gen. Eric Republican, USAF retired at April 27, 2016 12:09 PM (evdj2)

237 Trump is getting less than half of GOP voters.. arguably, that is (at best) one-quarter of all voters in the country. That is his ceiling
Thank you very much.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

Last I read, Trump had more primary votes than Romney did when he ran. And that was barely a contested primary in 2012.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:10 PM (sDOgQ)

238 "In a race without Trump, Cruz would have been eliminated long ago because all the money was behind Heb! and Rubio, and Cruz wouldn't have even gotten the air-time that he has"

Spot on.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 12:10 PM (r1fLd)

239 I would think a Mitch Daniels endorsement would be helpful. He's generally well liked - was well liked as a govenor - and is well liked as Purdue president. I don't know if it would have a huge effect, but who knows.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 12:10 PM (gmeXX)

240 Eventually, the smarter ones will realize money doesn't win elections, votes do.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:08 PM (sDOgQ)

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But money pays for campaigns and a nice job after the exciting, gallant loss occurs.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:10 PM (NUqwG)

241 Maybe Ted is going to announce that the Republican Party is officially dead.

They let an outsider hijack the party and couldn't even steal it back when it was their only hope.

Posted by: Fritz at April 27, 2016 12:10 PM (UzPAd)

242 I hate to rain on the Trump parade but Hillary wins anyway. Its going to take an act of God to save us from her. She'll win if she has to personally shoot Trump in the face. Then the Obama administration will call it self defense and the press will portray her as heroic and empowered.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2

She won't have to shoot Trump in the face. All she will have to do is show up for the presidential debates. We have seen Trump debate and he sucked when he had 9 other people to detract from his poor performance. I hate Hildabest with a passion, but she is not stupid and is a much better debater than Trump. Add in a moderator from the lame stream media and Trump's past behavior, comments, and legal troubles and you have a slam dunk in November. No dem voter ever votes republican but if we could keep the voter turnout down we might have a chance. That won't happen when the media goes full bore for hildabeast and against Trump. He will be presented to the voters in such a way that dems will become motivated and we (the republican/independent conservatives) become the demoralized voter. Add in the given amount of dead voting democrat, and we have Hillary beating Trump better than Regan beat Mondale.

Posted by: lightning at April 27, 2016 12:11 PM (AP+SF)

243 I always put the toilet ring back down.

It must really suck to be a politician and have any stumble or odd statement used to attack and eviscerate you forever. Stuff the very same people who mock it do regularly, but nobody calls them on.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:11 PM (39g3+)

244 Knight >> Trump
Daniels >> Cruz

And the bucket winner is...

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:11 PM (NUqwG)

245 Cruz and Kasich to get married.
Romney to officiate.

Posted by: g6loq at April 27, 2016 12:11 PM (zj+JZ)

246
All the ladies love a military man.
Posted by: Gen. Eric Republican, USAF retired

Modern ladies want a pajama boy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 12:11 PM (k4M/B)

247 >>I rest my case, Trumpkin."

My favorite part of Trump supporters is their amazingly thin skin, just like their hero.

Well that and the fact that they have no more idea what Trump will do if elected than Trump does.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 12:12 PM (/tuJf)

248 TOP 3 ANNOUNCEMENTS BY TED CRUZ AT 4 PM:

3) If elected, I plan to open each Presidential Press Conference by dancing the mambo.

2) I have entered into a Blueberry Pie eating contest with John Kasich...winner takes all delegates.

1) I'm here today to announce my Vice President for the upcoming Cruz administration...

Rudolpho Cruz, my conjoined twin who lives in my left arm pit.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you...Rudolpho!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 27, 2016 12:12 PM (0cMkb)

249 If trump's ceiling is 1/4 then what is cruz's? throw me some math that shows me how cruz is the only way to beat hillary. I'm just not understanding how cruz loses to trump but cruz is the only way we beat hillary

Posted by: nckate at April 27, 2016 12:13 PM (O46jc)

250 Over time, our culture of life in this country has started sliding
toward a culture of death. Perhaps the most significant piece of
evidence to support this assertion is that since Roe v. Wade was decided
by the Supreme Count 43 years ago over 50 million Americans never had
the chance to enjoy the opportunities offered by this country. They
never had the chance to become doctors, musicians, farmers, teachers,
husbands, fathers, sons or daughters. They never had the chance to
enrich the culture of this nation or to bring their skills, lives, loves
or passions into the fabric of country. They are missing, and they are
missed.

guess the author

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 12:13 PM (Bbsg+)

251 OK here's the deal. Ignore the primary results and the voter turnout numbers and the photo-negative media landscape where the Republican nominee is driving the cycle and setting the narrative and the crossover voting and the overton window being shifted on immigration and the military and international trade.

And ignore the delegate count and the spending numbers and the Bush dynasty being told its effete pathetic runt son is out of his element.

Ignore the cultural shift which is reviving an indescribably toxic Republican brand and ignore the fractures in the democrat coalition (which has always thrived on message discipline).

Ignore all that shit, ok? Ignore it! And look at RCP poll number.

Look, that's a +8. Can you fucking count?

I rest my case, Trumpkin."
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 12:09 PM (xuouz)

In every single case where polls are against one side, that side always has an extensive argument about why the polls are biased, unreliable, worthless, and 90% of the time that argument proves to be wrong.

Posted by: AD at April 27, 2016 12:13 PM (QuixQ)

252 All she will have to do is show up for the presidential debates.

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Should both go on to win their nominations, we may have a year without a Presidential debate - which would probably be just fine.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 12:13 PM (gmeXX)

253 I hate Hildabest with a passion, but she is not stupid and is a much better debater than Trump.

Its not so much that she's better, she's just the favorite of the moderators so her bizarre mannerisms and chilling witch laugh is treated as wonderful. Honestly do the debates even matter?

Obama showed up stoned out of his mind and stumbled through the worst debate performance in human history against Romney and... it didn't even make the slightest difference.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:13 PM (39g3+)

254 ...they have no more idea what Trump will do if elected than Trump does.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 12:12 PM (/tuJf)
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I am sure you have more idea what candidate X is going to do than candidate X him/herself does. Great!

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:13 PM (NUqwG)

255 She spent years in AK and didn't learn a goddamn thing.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 12:09 PM (r1fLd)

Actually, she didn't. During those years she spent a lot of time in D.C. working for some what about the chilluns legal group.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 12:14 PM (4ErVI)

256 Posted by: naturalfake

Nice work!

*golf clap*

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 12:14 PM (Bbsg+)

257 We'd have to find something else to argue about.

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How do you feel about anchovies on pizza?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 12:14 PM (imhnn)

258 OK using that brilliant logic, Hillary is getting 55% of the Democrat voters, which is (at best) one third of all voters in the country.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
...............
True. But exit polls consistently show Dem voters will vote enthusiastically for either candidate if their candidate does not get the nomination.

Exit polls say the opposite for Trump.

However, if you look at last night's exit polls, they are more favorable for Trump.. but these are states that are not up for grabs anyway, and he had very high support.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 12:14 PM (so+oy)

259 Look, I didn't vote for Trump and I didn't want Trump as the nominee. But the rank and file GOP voters decided this one issue (immigration) was do or die and that this was the only guy willing to make a stand.

It's a shame these problems came out with such a winnable election ahead of us and not in 2012, but the idea that we're going to salvage this election with Ted Cruz and Kasich stealing it on the Convention floor is bad logic. I could see Hillary winning a 45 state landslide with millions writing in "Trump" on their ballot.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:14 PM (sDOgQ)

260 230 Romney won this group

Yeah he won women, he won independents, he won men, and somehow, he still lost. Funny, that. Either the exit polling is trash, or some shenanigans were going on.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:08 PM (39g3+)

____

He didn't win women. He won married women. He lost single women by 25% or something crazy like that.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:14 PM (0LHZx)

261 Posted by: AD at April 27, 2016 12:13 PM (QuixQ)

Fractures in the democrat party never mattered in the general. They always vote D. It's in their blood.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at April 27, 2016 12:14 PM (tM4uk)

262 This show's in repeats and I wasn't too fond of it the first time around.

Time to pretend to work. Later, Horde.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 27, 2016 12:14 PM (9krrF)

263 Remember a few weeks ago with Cruz ascendant and Trump dead in the water (iteration #14,692)?

Good times. Good times.

Posted by: Wingy Menone at April 27, 2016 12:14 PM (QlyN5)

264 Actually, I beg to differ. She is the only R with serious international business experience. VP can be used as proxy again for trade deals and delegated for funeral duty since she knows a lot of the players -- in and out of government -- in the international arena.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 27, 2016 11:43 AM (MIKMs)

Umm, Trump currently has real estate, commericial and golf enterprises in the following foreign locations.
Istanbul,
Panama
S.Korea
Canada
Phillipines
India
Uruguay
British Columbia
Brazil
Dubai
Scotland
Ireland.

Many of his domestic real estate development has been in partnership with foreign nationals, such as when he purchased the Empire State Building with a Japanese billionaire.

Carly is NOT the only one with international business experience, LOL.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 12:15 PM (6YRzC)

265
236 All the ladies love a military man.
Posted by: Gen. Eric Republican, USAF retired at April 27, 2016 12:09 PM (evdj2)

*******

Ha! Well--when Trump loses the foreign affairs/national security vote to Hillary --where she is polling at 60% and he is only at 33%--Trump ain't just losing the laaaaadies.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 12:15 PM (mcm0N)

266 Look, that's a +8. Can you fucking count?

I rest my case, Trumpkin."
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 12:09 PM (xuouz)

Rest well Cruzlim.
Don't you know it is all about love?: Family!
http://tinyurl.com/j9j79ff

Posted by: g6loq at April 27, 2016 12:15 PM (zj+JZ)

267 " Someone like Cruz is not going to bring in new voters and would probably repel a lot of independents that would vote for Trump. "
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The problem is that Trump actually has extremely high negatives among independents, particularly in the states that matter.
It doesn't matter if independents in NY like him better than Daffy Duck. All that means is that he loses NY by 15% rather than 20%.
It DOES matter that independents in Virginia like him far less than Daffy. He loses the state.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 12:15 PM (T/5A0)

268 I'm just not understanding how cruz loses to trump but cruz is the only way we beat hillary
Posted by: nckate at April 27, 2016 12:13 PM (O46jc)
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Obviously, Cruz will attract large numbers of Demons and independents which Trump can't.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:16 PM (NUqwG)

269 There is a traffic sign nearby that regularly says "9-11 minutes to Pentagon." I should take a picture some day.

Posted by: bjk at April 27, 2016 12:16 PM (x2rNW)

270 If elected, I plan to open each Presidential Press Conference by dancing the mambo.

He's got my vote!

Posted by: Antonio Banderas at April 27, 2016 12:16 PM (39g3+)

271 I don't understand the logic of people who think Cruz is not serious about immigration. Just--wow.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 27, 2016 12:16 PM (f5614)

272 TOP 3 ANNOUNCEMENTS BY TED CRUZ AT 4 PM:

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He's apologizing for calling Bitch Mcconnell a liar.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 12:17 PM (imhnn)

273 Didn't Cruz say he was for boosting HB1 visas?

Posted by: bjk at April 27, 2016 12:17 PM (x2rNW)

274

Yea, actually I had a pretty good idea of what most of the candidates would have done had they been elected since they had an actual record. We could assume that Trump will do what he has supported all his life up until a couple years ago when he decided to seek the Republican nomination.

But I don't think you Trump supporters would like that much.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 12:17 PM (/tuJf)

275 Today i used the Ladies room

Posted by: Ted Cruz at April 27, 2016 12:17 PM (h/uSM)

276 I'm just not understanding how cruz loses to trump but cruz is the only way we beat hillary

Posted by: nckate

>>>

wish|casting - v. gerund

def : (1) Projecting hopes and dreams on desired outcome despite the logical reality

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 12:17 PM (Bbsg+)

277 If trump's ceiling is 1/4 then what is cruz's? throw me some math that shows me how cruz is the only way to beat hillary. I'm just not understanding how cruz loses to trump but cruz is the only way we beat hillary
Posted by: nckate
.............
Cruz cannot beat her either.

The only hope is that Cruz can keep Trump from 1237, and that the convention gives it to someone else.

There is a very slim chance of that happening. But tears WILL be cried by one group or another.. and that is the ONLY way we will win against Hillary.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 12:17 PM (so+oy)

278 I don't understand the logic of people who think Cruz is not serious about immigration. Just--wow.
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 27, 2016 12:16 PM (f5614)
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Cruz is also much more experienced with immigration than the other candidates.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:17 PM (NUqwG)

279 I don't understand the logic of people who think Cruz is not serious about immigration.

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Well I don't understand how Cruz of all people has been labeled as part of the establishment. Strange election.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 12:17 PM (gmeXX)

280 But exit polls consistently show Dem voters will vote enthusiastically for either candidate if their candidate does not get the nomination.

Exit polls say the opposite for Trump.

However, if you look at last night's exit polls, they are more favorable for Trump.. but these are states that are not up for grabs anyway, and he had very high support.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

Actually the don't. I saw a poll where 30% of Democrats said they wouldn't vote for Hillary if she beats Bernie. Of course it's all bullshit, if that actually happened, Hillary would lose 50 states.

Republicans are also puffing up their chest. I remember telling myself I wouldn't vote for McCain, but I did.

I think Trump will gain more outside voters than whatever GOP votes he loses.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:17 PM (sDOgQ)

281 Time for Ted to be a realist and drop out.
I think the voters are sending that mesage too. People that would have voted for Ted earlier are voting for Trump. They see Donald as an acceptable alternative, where they would continue to fight against JEB! Or Little Amnesty.

I caucused for Ted Cruz. Time to pull the plug, he is in his 40's and has plenty of future left.

Posted by: rd at April 27, 2016 12:18 PM (v0YLX)

282 >>>Many of his domestic real estate development has
been in partnership with foreign nationals, such as when he purchased
the Empire State Building with a Japanese billionaire.

Carly is NOT the only one with international business experience, LOL.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 12:15 PM (6YRzC)<<<

Hey, you forgot to mention that I also have my ties made in Cheeyina.

Posted by: D. Trump at April 27, 2016 12:18 PM (H9MG5)

283 >>>168
If you haven't read Scot Adams's take on Trump as "Master Persuader" you really should. I say this not because I agree (which I have come to do) but because Adams has made a series of predictions which have all come true. That indicates to me that he's viewing this through the right frame.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 11:57 AM (kff5f)

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^^^THIS^^^

Anybody who hasn't read Scott Adams take on all this should go way back into the archieves on this. He nailed the rise of Trump way early, and he even had PERFECT timing when predicting the fall of each of the JEB!, Carson, Fiorina, & Rubio campaigns.

It is a lot to go back and read and it is highly entertaining and informative.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 27, 2016 12:18 PM (10hEu)

284 I'm just not understanding how cruz loses to trump but cruz is the only way we beat hillary
Posted by: nckate at April 27, 2016 12:13 PM (O46jc)

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Well for starters, primaries include caucuses which are essentially meaningless votes. 1000 people in Colorado decided that state's primary. In a general election there will be 1M voters.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:19 PM (0LHZx)

285 Cruz could have come out against wet foot/dry foot for Cubans, like Little Marco just did. That would have shown that he was serious about pandering on the issue. He didn't.

Posted by: bjk at April 27, 2016 12:19 PM (x2rNW)

286 I honestly think they were in such a bubble in that DC Corridor, they didn't understand. They don;t have kids that suddenly go to a school and half the people there don't speak English or are surrounded by billboards in Spanish.

And, God forbid, they should get out and talk to their constituents!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:19 PM (Jcvz2)

287
She spent years in AK and didn't learn a goddamn thing.
Posted by: Ignoramus

Hillary in Alaska?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 12:19 PM (k4M/B)

288 He didn't win women. He won married women. He lost single women by 25% or something crazy like that.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:14 PM (0LHZx)

*********

Romney won white women.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 12:19 PM (mcm0N)

289 I look forward to the day when we decide not to elect a baby boomer as President. Looks like it will not be this year.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 12:19 PM (gmeXX)

290 He lost single women by 25% or something crazy like that.

I suspect that's pretty accurate, based on my very unscientific polling of single women. And it says something about a basic cultural shift.

Women used to look for a strong man in their lives to help them feel safe and comfortable. now they look to big government instead. Who needs a man when you get that check from the government for food, housing, health care, and daily needs? All the left has to do is get dimwitted and gullible women to believe that the Republican will take something away or deny them something - no matter how idiotically irrational - and they run into the arms of big government.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:19 PM (39g3+)

291 hey bullpup? ignoramus? are you guys liberal trolls? just wondering.

Posted by: scoville at April 27, 2016 12:20 PM (0adl+)

292 The only hope is that Cruz can keep Trump from 1237, and that the convention gives it to someone else.

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A crossover Lincoln Chafee. A proven track record winning with Republicans, independents, and Democrats!

The party of Lincoln once more!
Optionally add Little Marco to the ticket for a foam party.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:20 PM (NUqwG)

293 Carly seems like a strategic move. Most of the women in my life absolutely refuse to vote for "that disgusting pig" Trump due to how he treats women. Cruz should be able to create a bit of a bright line and give women another reason to vote for him, in spite of his general quirkiness that sets many off.

Posted by: gummy dammit at April 27, 2016 12:21 PM (mKXWp)

294 TOP 3 ANNOUNCEMENTS BY TED CRUZ AT 4 PM:

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That he self identifies as president.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 12:21 PM (imhnn)

295 I don't understand the logic of people who think Cruz is not serious about immigration. Just--wow.
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone

Probably because he was handing out Teddy Bears at the border and talking about doubling visas to Mexico before Trump came on the scene.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:21 PM (sDOgQ)

296 This announcement of Cruz's shows how bad a candidate he is...

What? A Pence endorsement? That would be embarrassing. Page 13 in the Style section.

More likely - Carly for VP announcement.

When the only person who could possibly save Cruz's chances for a candidacy is Sarah Palin, he is going to pick Carly. Who is she going to bring along who isn't already on Cruz's side?

A Palin pick would have shown he could pull Trump's top endorser away and bring a good percentage of the Trump voters along with her.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2016 12:21 PM (Zs4uk)

297 Wednesday kegger & bbq @ WH! Watch me stand on my head & down massive quantities of brew!

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 27, 2016 12:21 PM (nckx1)

298 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 12:17 PM (so+oy)

Tell me again how the RNC saying "Fuck you" to the majority of primary voters will magically turn into a Republican victory in November.

If you go to convention and neither Trump nor Cruz is the candidate, the Republican Party dies. Which, on the plus side, means there might finally be room for a Conservative party. Maybe Conservatives could take over the Libertarian party.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 12:21 PM (kff5f)

299 288 He didn't win women. He won married women. He lost single women by 25% or something crazy like that.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:14 PM (0LHZx)

*********

Romney won white women.
Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 12:19 PM (mcm0N)

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And lost black women 98-2.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:21 PM (0LHZx)

300 Romney won white women.
Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 12:19 PM (mcm0N)
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The the want of more binders.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:22 PM (NUqwG)

301 "You shot Marvin in the face man!"

http://tinyurl.com/h4s5h6g

Body Cam Footage Shows Officer Shooting Suspect in the Face After He Reaches for Gun

He was turning his life around dammit!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2016 12:22 PM (/CXhS)

302 Looks like it is definitely a Carly VP announcement. I'll say this, it is bold. There appears a whiff of desperation, but that is probably where he is. If - and its a big if - he pulls this thing out, it will look like a masterstroke.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 12:22 PM (gmeXX)

303 >>He didn't win women. He won married women. He lost single women by 25% or something crazy like that.

And Trump is losing married women and single women.

You aren't helping your case.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 12:22 PM (/tuJf)

304 Obviously, Cruz will attract large numbers of Demons and independents which Trump can't.
Posted by: RioBravo

Burn the witch!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:22 PM (Jcvz2)

305 Romney won white women.

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I've heard Cruz does well with women. Real well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 12:22 PM (imhnn)

306
Women used to look for a strong man in their lives to help them feel safe and comfortable. now they look to big government instead. Who needs a man when you get that check from the government for food, housing, health care, and daily needs? All the left has to do is get dimwitted and gullible women to believe that the Republican will take something away or deny them something - no matter how idiotically irrational - and they run into the arms of big government.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:19 PM (39g3+)

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Yep. Popping out 4 or 5 babies with 3 or 4 baby daddies = beaucoup bucks from the govt. Easier than working.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:22 PM (0LHZx)

307 Take this into perspective. Look what the country elected, twice. Once wasn't enough, even with the evidence mounting he was not good for the country. Honestly, I don't know what his je ne sais quoi was but he was able to attract voters.

No look at the Republican Primary. Are the voters really focused on the issues? Is that what it is going to take- or does it usually take more than that to elect a candidate. Something beyond, "I am more principled", etc. I think it's more and that's what is being missed.

Romney was a horrible candidate. But he stood out in that Republican field. Why? Do you really need to ask that question. They were mostly duds and retreads.

I support Cruz, but I want to smack him sometimes to find some passion, something beyond the issues I agree with him on. But he's constantly like a blockbuster sequel, where you come in with high hopes and get disappointed every time. He doesn't have that je ne sais quoi. That extra thing that makes people want to vote for him.

Honestly, at this point he could dig up Reagan and put him on the stage. I really don't think it will help. Trump has the momentum and that's usually who wins the race at this point. The guy with momentum.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 27, 2016 12:23 PM (O0lVq)

308 303 >>He didn't win women. He won married women. He lost single women by 25% or something crazy like that.

And Trump is losing married women and single women.

You aren't helping your case.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 12:22 PM (/tuJf)

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I didn't realize stating facts was a "cause".

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:23 PM (0LHZx)

309 It's hard to think what kind of big announcement Cruz could make at this point that isn't a VP pick or something to do with the deal with Kasich.

Posted by: Ace

"...and that's why I'm announcing a $1 Million bounty for proof of the existence of any Trump position he has not changed in the past 18 months."

Posted by: Cruz's Announcement at April 27, 2016 12:23 PM (VAsIq)

310 VP Jim Webb

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 12:24 PM (k4M/B)

311 Women used to look for a strong man in their lives to help them feel safe and comfortable. now they look to big government instead. Who needs a man when you get that check from the government for food, housing, health care, and daily needs? All the left has to do is get dimwitted and gullible women to believe that the Republican will take something away or deny them something - no matter how idiotically irrational - and they run into the arms of big government.

#BigTampon!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:24 PM (Jcvz2)

312 "[Romney] lost single women by 25% or something crazy like that."

For the 99th time, to do an accurate analysis you have to use the electoral map and go state-by-state. Certain cohorts, like unmarried with kids, are over-represented in Deep Blue States. Trump can lose MA and MD by 30% and it won't matter, so long as he can win states that Romney lost like FL and OH.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 12:24 PM (r1fLd)

313 I hate Hildabest with a passion, but she is not stupid and is a much better debater than Trump.

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Sit down and think about what you just wrote. Throughout this election, Trump has faced all the "better debators".

Like I said, just sit down and think about this.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 12:24 PM (Fmupd)

314 I just went and looked it up.

Romney won the white women vote by 56%---and IIRC it was a loss of that demographic by Obama that was almost historic since the last Democrat to lose that group by that much was Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 12:24 PM (mcm0N)

315 252 All she will have to do is show up for the presidential debates.

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Should both go on to win their nominations, we may have a year without a Presidential debate - which would probably be just fine.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 12:13 PM (gmeXX)

Why do we need debates, anyway? What is the point?

Posted by: rickl at April 27, 2016 12:25 PM (zoehZ)

316 The only hope is that Cruz can keep Trump from 1237, and that the convention gives it to someone else.

Okay , I can't argue that logic.

Someone Else 2016 : Invisible , Intangible, Invincible!

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 12:25 PM (Bbsg+)

317 Need to focus on 2020, folks. Jeez, where do you get all the free time to waste on 2016 speculation? It's over, people. Work on your houses.

Posted by: Shady at April 27, 2016 12:25 PM (Jh20h)

318 Looks like it is definitely a Carly VP announcement.
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Or for a real bombshell - The National Enquirer story was really about Carly and Ted. The 9 women were a disaggregation.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:25 PM (NUqwG)

319 If you're announcing a VP at this point in the race it looks like desperation. It's a terrible gamble that some voters will take as pandering...because it is.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 27, 2016 12:26 PM (O0lVq)

320 >>I didn't realize stating facts was a "cause".

I said case not cause. You have been one of the loudest Trumpeters for months. The simple fact is that Trump is polling worse with women that Romney and that is before Hillary and Girl Power spend the next few months turning him into hammered shit.

Trump better hope Hillary gets indicted because short of that he isn't going to come close to Romney's numbers with women.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 12:26 PM (/tuJf)

321 It would be nice to see Carly announced. I've seen a lot of stickers around here from back when she was in the race. (I was a pretty big fan too.)

Posted by: Adlib421 at April 27, 2016 12:26 PM (HNZCg)

322 Popping out 4 or 5 babies with 3 or 4 baby daddies = beaucoup bucks from the govt.

Even the ones that kill all their babies lurve the big government. Its about security and comfort, its about feeling cared for and provided for. Government is what does that for women now, not men in their lives. What's a man provide that they cannot get from elsewhere now? Hugs?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:26 PM (39g3+)

323
After getting shlonged and winning a single delegate Cruz is gonna do what, announce his veep pick?

For what?? For the Ted Cruz Fantasy Presidential League?

Posted by: movie line guy at April 27, 2016 12:26 PM (qAxSt)

324 Tell me again how the RNC saying "Fuck you" to the majority of primary voters will magically turn into a Republican victory in November.

If you go to convention and neither Trump nor Cruz is the candidate, the Republican Party dies. Which, on the plus side, means there might finally be room for a Conservative party. Maybe Conservatives could take over the Libertarian party.
..............
The party dies either way.. neither Trump nor Cruz can beat Hillary. Period.

I didn't say it was a move to unite the party.. I said tears WILL be cried.. there will be a whole lotta butthurt going down.

But, it is the only long shot hail mary path to victory in November, slim though it might be. The other two paths are known losing paths.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 12:26 PM (so+oy)

325 Someone Else 2016 : Invisible , Intangible, Invincible!

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A player to be named later?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 12:27 PM (imhnn)

326 And maybe the GOP leaders can do some soul searching for why there was such a revolt.

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we looked in the sofa, under the bed. We have no idea where our soul is.

Posted by: GOPe at April 27, 2016 12:27 PM (h/uSM)

327 Demographics are killing the GOP. And not just Hispanics. Putting that aside, it's the social demographics. Single mothers outnumber married mothers in many states. The yuuutes aren't getting married anymore. Despite all the SSM craziness, fewer and fewer people are getting married, gay or straight. The shift in population from rural to urban. The trend towards minimalist living, ie the tiny house, the trend away from owning a car.

All these things hurt the GOP and help Democrats.

Plus add in 20-30M illegals who will become legal voters within a decade.....you can do the math what happens electorally.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:27 PM (0LHZx)

328 VP Jim Webb
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

Trump/Webb is a possibility. So is Trump/Cavuto.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2016 12:27 PM (cXiMR)

329 so long as he can win states that Romney lost like FL and OH.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 12:24 PM (r1fLd)

*******

The--other demographics--in Ohio and Florida more than make up for what you describe.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 12:28 PM (mcm0N)

330 Well I don't understand how Cruz of all people has been labeled as part of the establishment. Strange election.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 12:17 PM (gmeXX)

Because he is a Senator. And a lawyer.
Yes, I know all the great things he attempted to do. He was a much better constitutional lawyer than an effective Senator.

I bet if you asked the average Republican primary voter what Cruz did as a lawyer, they would have no idea he has argued and won in front of the Supreme Court. All they know is that he was portrayed by the media and the Democrats as an obstructionist, temper tantrum throwing Senator from redneck Texas who wants to ban abortion and deny people health care. And that he will not win the presidency with that label.

Voters, even those who aren't political junkies like us, are pragmatic. They want someone who they think will appeal to the broadest coalition of their neighbors, someone they can convince others isn't a social radical monster, but has demonstrated he can get things done. Right now, Trump is demonstrating that, and Ted is behind Kasich, of all people.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 12:28 PM (6YRzC)

331 Need to focus on 2020, folks. Jeez, where do you get all the free time to waste on 2016 speculation? It's over, people. Work on your houses.
Posted by: Shady
...........
Why bother? After one month of Hillary as prez we'll have all the really cheap Mexican laborers we need.. they can work on our houses!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 12:28 PM (so+oy)

332 Completely uneducated SWAG, in no particular order

1) "Suspending" his campaign
2) VP pick designed to move the needle nationally but likely won't
3) Some endorsement designed to move the needle in IN

Of these, only the last has any chance of keeping Trump from 1237. Anything else essentially ensures either a surrender. In any case, the last option guarantees an ugly fight all the way to Cleveland. In either case, this almost certainly ends in a Trump nomination which will end any hope of the GOP surviving the coming wreckage of a 40-45 state landslide for the un-indicted felon.

As I'm hoping desperately for the GOP to be burned to the ground, I'm actually feeling pretty OK about all of this.

Posted by: DocJ at April 27, 2016 12:28 PM (5Nr9V)

333 Take it with a grain of salt, but as far as anecdotes go on my wife's Facebook page, the same harpies that are screaming what a woman hater Trump is are the same ones that were going to vote Democrat no matter what. No Republican was ever going to win them over.

Most of the female Republicans I know don't like Trump, but they will vote for him over Hillary. And they also really dislike Cruz, but would fall in line.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:28 PM (sDOgQ)

334 Rush says its a possible Pence endorsement.

Posted by: jacke at April 27, 2016 12:28 PM (fHvnG)

335 Why do we need debates, anyway? What is the point?

It makes a bunch of money for the networks and gives pundits something to talk about for a few days. I seriously doubt it affects a single vote.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:28 PM (39g3+)

336 Shhh. Quiet everybody.

We're about to find out what Donald thinks about foreign policy.

And so is Donald.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 27, 2016 12:29 PM (WIuvp)

337
Romney won white women.

So THAT's where dey at!

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at April 27, 2016 12:29 PM (QlyN5)

338 Someone Else 2016 : Invisible , Intangible, Invincible!

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Iocaine Powder!

Posted by: Vizzini at April 27, 2016 12:29 PM (VAsIq)

339 I said case not cause.

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LOL. Oops.

In either case, I was pointing out Romney lost women, I didn't put it in a Trump context. Romney lost women. That is a fact. Whether I support Trump or not is irrelevant.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:29 PM (0LHZx)

340 Cruz can beat Hillary, both popular and electoral. Plenty of polls in past 6 months have shown that. How many show Donald with a pop vote win, one? Any that show him getting 270? Not that I've heard.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 27, 2016 12:30 PM (f5614)

341 Its not so much that she's better, she's just the favorite of the moderators so her bizarre mannerisms and chilling witch laugh is treated as wonderful. Honestly do the debates even matter?

Obama showed up stoned out of his mind and stumbled through the worst debate performance in human history against Romney and... it didn't even make the slightest difference.

Debates generally don't matter. Obama was a golden boy and already was beloved by the masses, so the debates had little to no effect. Here (as you point out) Hillary is icky to even folks who support her which is why according to most major news sources democrat voter turnout is at "historic lows". I expect that Trump will be Trump and will come up with say "Hinky Hillary" and "Felons of the Future" and all the other tactics he has used in this election. If Hillary can come across as a victim and portray Trump as a misogynistic bully who is also woefully unprepared to be president (ie arms races torture by us troops etc that he has endorsed) she will motivate the voters who did not vote for her in the primary to come out in November. If she does that it is over.

Posted by: lightning at April 27, 2016 12:30 PM (AP+SF)

342 If Cruz is announcing a VP pick, it should have happened months ago. It now reeks of desperation.

I actually like Carly Fiorina a lot, but it seems too little too late.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:30 PM (sDOgQ)

343
For the 99th time, to do an accurate analysis
you have to use the electoral map and go state-by-state. Certain
cohorts, like unmarried with kids, are over-represented in Deep Blue
States. Trump can lose MA and MD by 30% and it won't matter, so long as
he can win states that Romney lost like FL and OH. Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 12:24 PM (r1fLd)
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And so-called 'purple' states? Right now, I see Hillary winning in most red states (except TX) against a fully weaponized DT because he just turns too many people off with NY brash. Just do not see a way for DT to peel off enough to win Electoral College -- and that brings up does he even know about EC?

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 27, 2016 12:30 PM (MIKMs)

344 I could go for Cruz/Carly.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:30 PM (dpnZC)

345 But, it is the only long shot hail mary path to victory in November, slim though it might be. The other two paths are known losing paths.

No. This, too, is a "known losing path" (which assumes I accept your assertion that both Trump and Cruz have no path to victory in the general - which I don't). Because you can't tell your base to f*ck off and win. Well, unless you're the Democrats, but even they have limits.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 12:31 PM (kff5f)

346 Should both go on to win their nominations, we may have a year without a Presidential debate - which would probably be just fine.

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And i promise that i will let Hilary choose the dates for the debates. That way we can ensure that she isn't on the rag those nights. SCARY!

Posted by: TRUMP! at April 27, 2016 12:31 PM (h/uSM)

347 It is great that Cruz announced an announcement rather than just making a announcement. All this anticipatory conversation is likely to be better than that afterward.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:31 PM (NUqwG)

348 There is a guy in a Kasich hat in the sub shop I'm in. He just left and got in a Ford fusion with a Gadsden flag vanity plate.

Fucking Massachusetts

Posted by: Phone of kari at April 27, 2016 12:31 PM (XcZpa)

349 333 Take it with a grain of salt, but as far as anecdotes go on my wife's Facebook page, the same harpies that are screaming what a woman hater Trump is are the same ones that were going to vote Democrat no matter what. No Republican was ever going to win them over.

Most of the female Republicans I know don't like Trump, but they will vote for him over Hillary. And they also really dislike Cruz, but would fall in line.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:28 PM (sDOgQ)

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Exactly. I have yet to meet someone who said "I was going to vote Republican but my goodness Trump said something mean about Rosie O'Donnel so I can't vote GOP anymore".

All the people having fainting spells every time Trump makes a "controversial" statement have never even thought about thinking about voting Republican.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:31 PM (0LHZx)

350
The Republican Party is the Cleveland Browns of politics. They have no business in politics or in the government but they are a member of the League so they get to play their 16 games to a futile end every season.

Why do the Republcans even bother with the presidential elections anymore. Theyre just wasting everyones time.

Posted by: movie line guy at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (qAxSt)

351 And Trump is losing married women and single women.

You aren't helping your case.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 12:22 PM (/tuJf)

Fox's exit polls last night showed Trump with the majority of the female vote. 50-60%

Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (6YRzC)

352 I don't understand the logic of people who think Cruz is not serious about immigration. Just--wow.
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 27, 2016 12:16 PM (f5614)

Handing out teddy bears and soccer balls to illegal "minors" walking into our country.

Verys serious.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (1D4Ef)

353 He was a much better constitutional lawyer than an effective Senator.

Yeah its amazing how little you can accomplish when you're one man against 30 in congress.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (39g3+)

354 And at this point, IMO, it isn't really about beating Hillary. She's going to win at this point regardless of if it's Cruz or Trump. This is more about defining the future of the conservative movement. I would prefer that the movement be based on principled free-market, individual-liberty conservatism, as opposed to know-nothing nationalist populism.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (dpnZC)

355 >>And i promise that i will let Hilary choose the
dates for the debates. That way we can ensure that she isn't on the rag
those nights. SCARY!

Posted by: TRUMP! at April 27, 2016 12:31 PM (h/uSM)
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She's 70. That would be quite a feat. But you were saying?

Posted by: Marcus T at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (O0lVq)

356 Cruz can beat Hillary, both popular and electoral. Plenty of polls in past 6 months have shown that. How many show Donald with a pop vote win, one? Any that show him getting 270? Not that I've heard.
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone

If Cruz could win it cleanly, then yes, he would have had a shot. But that's no longer possible.

If say Trump had buyer's remorse, bowed out and endorsed him.

But Trump will blow it all up if he's not the nominee and far more Republicans voted for Trump than they did Cruz.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (sDOgQ)

357 Demographics are killing the GOP. And not just Hispanics. Putting that aside, it's the social demographics. Single mothers outnumber married mothers in many states. The yuuutes aren't getting married anymore. Despite all the SSM craziness, fewer and fewer people are getting married, gay or straight. The shift in population from rural to urban. The trend towards minimalist living, ie the tiny house, the trend away from owning a car.

All these things hurt the GOP and help Democrats.

Plus add in 20-30M illegals who will become legal voters within a decade.....you can do the math what happens electorally.

IOW, pray for Mr. Maths to rear his head and bankrupt welfare.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:33 PM (Jcvz2)

358 Why do the Republcans even bother with the presidential elections anymore. Theyre just wasting everyones time.
Posted by: movie line guy at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (qAxSt)
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It does soak up large amounts of donor money that could otherwise be used to piss off independents in state and local elections.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:33 PM (NUqwG)

359 For the 99th time, to do an accurate analysis
you have to use the electoral map and go state-by-state. Certain
cohorts, like unmarried with kids, are over-represented in Deep Blue
States. Trump can lose MA and MD by 30% and it won't matter, so long as
he can win states that Romney lost like FL and OH. Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 12:24 PM (r1fLd)

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Right because there are no unmarried with kids in Cleveland, Columbus, Miami or Tampa.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:33 PM (0LHZx)

360 It is great that Cruz announced an announcement rather than just making a announcement. All this anticipatory conversation is likely to be better than that afterward.
Posted by: RioBravo

decent move for 'Pub. It make people talk about something other than the asskicking he got last night

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2016 12:33 PM (cXiMR)

361 UPDATE: Cruz will name Carly Fiorina as his VP running mate at 4.

Posted by: ace at April 27, 2016 12:33 PM (dciA+)

362 236 All the ladies love a military man.

---
then ought to really love the Commander in Chief.

Hey you, with all the stars. Get me a latte, pronto!

Posted by: Barry at April 27, 2016 12:33 PM (h/uSM)

363 259 ----the idea that we're going to salvage this election with Ted Cruz and Kasich stealing it on the Convention floor is bad logic. I could see Hillary winning a 45 state landslide with millions writing in "Trump" on their ballot.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:14 PM (sDOgQ)
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So what? If Trump is the nominee, Hillary will win in a landslide too. Either way, she's in.

Also: if Trump doesn't have the 1237 going in and loses on the second ballot, the nomination will NOT have been "stolen."

And --- there is no way that either Cruz or Kasich lose 45 states. Trump, OTOH, will likely do just that. He will be crushed.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 12:34 PM (T/5A0)

364 Cruz to announce he will shift his campaign to challenging Justin Trudeau for Prime Minister of Canada.

Posted by: Stinky Peterson at April 27, 2016 12:34 PM (QlyN5)

365 I say this as a Cruz supporter and voter. I hope he drops out now that it is impossible for him to get the nomination on the first vote. He can try again in 4 years and not look like a spoiled baby like Kasich.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 27, 2016 12:34 PM (rZ304)

366 Trump is a liberal.
Hence his wins yesterday in the North East.

At this point, I consider all, yes all, of his supporters moderate to Progressive Liberals, based on their support for this idiot.

I will continue to support voter turn out for Senate and House races, but with it without my vote, Hillary will be the next President, barring an indictment.

Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 27, 2016 12:34 PM (Gl74b)

367 While discussing VPs...

It's been suggested that in the general election, Trump should have a black VP.

This is a good idea, but if he goes that way, it's important that he does it right. Someone like Mia Love or Ken Blackwell won't accomplish the task at hand. Any republican or conservative is viewed as white, regardless of their skin color.

If you're going to pick a black, get someone that the whole country views as black. Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.

The VP doesn't do anything anyway, so if you're going for a percentage of the black vote, give them something to vote for.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2016 12:34 PM (Zs4uk)

368 What will the couple's "Uni-name" be? Cruzorina or Tedly?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2016 12:34 PM (2cS/G)

369
Handing out teddy bears and soccer balls to illegal "minors" walking into our country.

Verys serious.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (1D4Ef)
What is wrong with treating these kids humanely?
Cruz has not said that they should stay here permanently. But if they ARE here, they ought to be treated decently, and not treated like dirt.
This is one thing that leads many otherwise reasonable people to turn away from Republicans. While they might agree that illegals need to go home, they would also agree that they should be treated humanely in the process of that.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (dpnZC)

370 351 And Trump is losing married women and single women.

You aren't helping your case.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 12:22 PM (/tuJf)

Fox's exit polls last night showed Trump with the majority of the female vote. 50-60%
Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (6YRzC)

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Don't confuse people with data.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (0LHZx)

371 He's withdrawing from the race since he's been cast as the lead in The Al Lewis Story. Congratulations Ted!

Posted by: Candy Apples & Razor Blades at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (GOK0C)

372 >>>There is a guy in a Kasich hat in the sub shop I'm in. He just left and got in a Ford fusion with a Gadsden flag vanity plate.

Fucking Massachusetts
Posted by: Phone of kari at April 27, 2016 12:31 PM (XcZpa)<<<

Was he getting one of those gigantic Vince Wilfork In-Vince-ible grinders at a Big Y?

I sure could go for one of those... or seven. Mmmmmmmm.

Posted by: Flowbee Mailmanson at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (H9MG5)

373 Correction, with or without...

Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (Gl74b)

374 What Obama voting states would any Republican Cruz or some white knight flip?

Show your work.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (RVjrl)

375 LOL

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (NAv1Q)

376

John Kasich is announcing at 2 that he will be at the Golden Corral in Fishers Indiana from about 4 to 9 tonight.

Posted by: Dr Rev E Buzzles at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (ijIy6)

377 Every anti-Trump talking point had been wrong. Every single one. This absurd notion that Hillary Clinton is bulletproof in a national election will be the butt of jokes by labor day.

And then god willing the conventional conservative wisdom that we should all buy gold and gloomily await the death of our country will prove wrong too.

Posted by: Phone of kari at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (XcZpa)

378 Handing out teddy bears and soccer balls to illegal "minors" walking into our country.

Verys serious.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (1D4Ef)

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I knew at the time that aligning with Beck on this was a really really bad mistake.

It was also when I quit listening to Beck altogether.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (Fmupd)

379 In a counter-move, DJT announces he will be Hillary Clinton's running mate

Posted by: Ronaldo Magnus at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (12kBq)

380 First she was a guest on the Ace of Spades podcast. She probably thought it could get no better than that.

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Woah big news for AOSHQ

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (gmeXX)

381 Well ace, potentially being VP of the US is a letdown after the podcast but you've got to settle sometimes.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at April 27, 2016 12:36 PM (iLoHX)

382 Could not conceive of Cruz accepting a VP slot with Trump. Concede with dignity at the appropriate time, then come back to fight another day. Meanwhile continue to build your credentials and polish your message.

Most Dems I've talked to either think Cruz is a batcrap crazy theocrat fundamentalist, or have bought into the late night comedians' pitches about what a loathsome person he is, yada, yada.

Most of them would NEVER vote for him anyway, but there are some R moderates and Dem centrists who just don't like what they perceive as his religious emphasis, and absolute position on abortion.

Posted by: RM at April 27, 2016 12:36 PM (U3LtS)

383 UPDATE: Cruz will name Carly Fiorina as his VP running mate at 4.

Posted by: ace at April 27, 2016 12:33 PM (dciA+)

Sorry, Rudolpho.

It's not personal...it's politics.

Posted by: Ted Cruz Shedding a Single Tear at 3:37PM at April 27, 2016 12:36 PM (0cMkb)

384 Cruz withdraws, admitting that he was never eligible to be President in the first place.

Posted by: Dogbert at April 27, 2016 12:36 PM (ELOYU)

385 The Canadian Religious Zealot and the woman who blew up HP.....a winning combination if I ever saw one.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:36 PM (0LHZx)

386 Yeah its amazing how little you can accomplish when you're one man against 30 in congress.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (39g3+)

Which highlights where the real problem is...We can elect a most fabulist president, and if the Congress continues on it's path of subsidizing windmills and ignoring the thousands of regulations coming out of DC, it's not going to matter.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 12:36 PM (6YRzC)

387 "Amanda bought this wonderful new smelly cheese to my hotel room at 2am"
Papa Cruz

Posted by: akak at April 27, 2016 12:36 PM (0HQPC)

388 Blame America First!

It's already been done to death, Diplo-Donald.

Believe me!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 27, 2016 12:36 PM (WIuvp)

389 What a bunch of Doubting Thomas's here. Trump had terrible ratings within the GOP when he first announced. Favorables are not set in stone. Trump is a master persuader. H/t Scott Adams

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 12:36 PM (WBahS)

390 decent move for 'Pub. It make people talk about something other than the asskicking he got last night
Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2016 12:33 PM (cXiMR)
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And Trump has a 'foreign policy' address today - though no one can be sure if taking attention from it helps/hurts Cruz/Trump.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:37 PM (NUqwG)

391 John Kasich is announcing at 2 that he will be at the Golden Corral in Fishers Indiana from about 4 to 9 tonight.

Posted by: Dr Rev E Buzzles at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (ijIy6)

____

I literally LOLed. Well done.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:37 PM (0LHZx)

392 Quiet the new president is speaking.

Posted by: redenzo at April 27, 2016 12:37 PM (WCnJW)

393 All the people having fainting spells every time Trump makes a "controversial" statement have never even thought about thinking about voting Republican.

There is something to this. And to Alexthechick's comment that she views Trump very unfavorably but would still vote for him over Hillary. Its hard to say for sure, but I suspect a lot of the negatives are not really all that solid, or more correctly will not translate into voting for his opponent.

Romney was right, there'sa bout 47% of the country that will never, ever vote for the Republican, no matter what. They could run a Satan/Mengele ticket for the democrats and that 47% would shrug, say "still better than that Lincoln/Jesus Republican ticket," and vote for the Dem.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:37 PM (39g3+)

394 Carly is VP pick.

Also Indiana is canceled. Delegates stolen!

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at April 27, 2016 12:38 PM (dU/fR)

395 Alternative 1: Trump wins nomination, Hillary wins Presidency (obviously -- I mean, "duuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"). GOP gets smeared with Trump for rest of our lives. Core Trump supporters say it wasn't Trump's fault, need more Trump next time. Outer ring of Trump supporters realize this was one giant big ass mistake. Try to rebuild for 2020.

Alternative 2: Someone other than Trump wins nomination, Trump supporters stay home, Hillary wins Presidency. GOP avoids most of the Trump smear, but core Trump supporters now believe more than ever that Trump would have won, need more Trump next time. Outer ring of Trump supporters don't get to see The Trumpdenburg crash and burn in November, so they continue following along. GOP remains divided, Dems divide up the spoils. USA probably becomes California writ large.

Posted by: Shady at April 27, 2016 12:38 PM (Jh20h)

396 For the 99th time, to do an accurate analysis
you have to use the electoral map and go state-by-state. Certain
cohorts, like unmarried with kids, are over-represented in Deep Blue
States. Trump can lose MA and MD by 30% and it won't matter, so long as
he can win states that Romney lost like FL and OH. Posted by: Ignoramus

I actually think there is a lot of truth to this. It's the same with the Hispanic vote, all sorts of "Roves" blamed Romney's loss on Hispanic voters but if you looked at the data, had Romney won 70% of the Hispanic vote he still would have lost.

Much of the Hispanic vote is in states that aren't up for grabs like California.

Republicans are never going to win that vote over, McCain was all in with Amnesty and he lost the vote like 70/30.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:38 PM (sDOgQ)

397 Gadsden flag vanity plate.

Fucking Massachusetts
Posted by: Phone of kari at April 27, 2016 12:31 PM (XcZpa)

You can have a Gadsen vanity plate...in MA?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:38 PM (0LHZx)

398 She won the zimbabwian lottery

Posted by: Jeff E at April 27, 2016 12:38 PM (CE+s6)

399 Sigh.

*itches all over*

Stupid hope.

Sigh.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 12:38 PM (mf5HN)

400 rickb223,

Medicaid and Medicare will likely bankrupt the nation in three years, so your prayers are likely to be answered.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at April 27, 2016 12:39 PM (5oarX)

401 So Cruz is trying to counter Trump's foreign policy speech exposure with demographics shenanigans. They ought to tie whomever advised him this was a good move to a yardarm and have them flogged.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 27, 2016 12:39 PM (O0lVq)

402 Hopefully, he is going to announce his is FINALLY dropping out of the race! For heaven's sake - stick a fork in him - he is DONE.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue at April 27, 2016 12:39 PM (ZXK8H)

403 Question: above average height males with freakishly short fingers get Napoleon Syndrome???

Posted by: Napoleon Bonaparte at April 27, 2016 12:39 PM (12kBq)

404 Not surprising. Ted is the type of person that needs a skirt to hide behind.

Posted by: shadowofashade at April 27, 2016 12:39 PM (fmjBk)

405 What is wrong with treating these kids humanely?
Cruz has not said that they should stay here permanently. But if they ARE here, they ought to be treated decently, and not treated like dirt.
This is one thing that leads many otherwise reasonable people to turn away from Republicans. While they might agree that illegals need to go home, they would also agree that they should be treated humanely in the process of that.

Hows about never letting them the fvck in in the first place?
Or is that cruel?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:40 PM (Jcvz2)

406 "What is wrong with treating these kids humanely?"

No drill instructors available.

Otherwise they turn out like Trayvon Martin.

Posted by: huh? at April 27, 2016 12:40 PM (Bbcs8)

407 Good grief. You have got to be kidding me.

Carly Fiasco-RINO?

Can someone lend me a hand here? Trying to sniff glue and inject heroin into my eyeballs simultaneously has just created a horrible mess.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 12:40 PM (noWW6)

408 Yup. This Carly announcement reeks of desperation.

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 12:40 PM (WBahS)

409 Hows about never letting them the fvck in in the first place?
Or is that cruel?

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Its like you didn't read his post.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 12:40 PM (gmeXX)

410 I have an announcement, too--

Cruz is a liar, and my hands are totally normal.

Posted by: Trump at April 27, 2016 12:40 PM (VAsIq)

411 348 There is a guy in a Kasich hat in the sub shop I'm in. He just left and got in a Ford fusion with a Gadsden flag vanity plate.

Fucking Massachusetts

Posted by: Phone of kari at April 27, 2016 12:31 PM (XcZpa)

He's a crazy wingnut extremist by Mass. standards.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 27, 2016 12:41 PM (u0lmX)

412 Handing out teddy bears and soccer balls to illegal "minors" walking into our country.

Look, this one is easy to argue away and show how it wasn't him supporting illegal immigration but... it was incredibly stupid to go there in the first place and was horrific optics at best. It was awful and stupid judgment. And combined with some of the other stuff Cruz has voted for, it seems like he has pretty poor instincts regarding immigration.

We can elect a most fabulist president, and if the Congress continues on it's path of subsidizing windmills and ignoring the thousands of regulations coming out of DC, it's not going to matter.

Even worse, the GOPe would band up with the Democrats and actively fight against a true strong conservative president.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:41 PM (39g3+)

413 "We can elect a most fabulist president, and if the Congress continues on it's path of subsidizing windmills and ignoring the thousands of regulations coming out of DC, it's not going to matter."

Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 12:36 PM (6YRzC)

That's where leadership comes in.

You need someone who will go straight to the people to make the case, who will call out congressmen and senators by name and who will use every carrot and stick available to get something done.

Someone who doesn't embarrass easy.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2016 12:42 PM (Zs4uk)

414 In adhering to the spirit of the "pact", Kasich is also expected to announce Carly as his VP in the coming days.

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 27, 2016 12:42 PM (0sLvz)

415 Think I'll go home early and play with the dog.

Posted by: Weasel at April 27, 2016 12:42 PM (6xtq3)

416 Handing out teddy bears and soccer balls to illegal "minors" walking into our country.

Verys serious.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 12:32 PM (1D4Ef)
What is wrong with treating these kids humanely?

Posted by: chemjeff

__________________

It tells the world we welcome illegals with open arms.

How else do you perceive a Senator handing out Teddy Bears to these kids? It tells the parents America wants them.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:42 PM (sDOgQ)

417 What is wrong with treating these kids humanely?
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In my view - in general, nothing
- all showy with jackass, everything

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:42 PM (NUqwG)

418 Columns of immigrant invaders??? Where the hell are all the Thunderbolts and Lightnings???

Posted by: Curtis LeMay at April 27, 2016 12:43 PM (12kBq)

419 This is one thing that leads many otherwise reasonable people to turn away from Republicans. While they might agree that illegals need to go home, they would also agree that they should be treated humanely in the process of that.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:35 PM (dpnZC)

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You're wrong. The chillren should have been sent back after this horrendous experience and told everyone in their countries how bad it is trying to get into this country illegally. A valuable lesson was lost concerning these criminals and disease vectors.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 12:43 PM (Fmupd)

420 This is one of "those" comment threads isn't it?
Ace- can you get Carly back for another podcast?

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at April 27, 2016 12:43 PM (D2l4b)

421 Its like you didn't read his post.

Yeah. Once they're here. Guess what? Greeting them at the fucking border and welcoming them in with a teddy bear and a soccer ball is kinda shortsighted.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:43 PM (Jcvz2)

422 Even worse, the GOPe would band up with the Democrats and actively fight against a true strong conservative president.

I guess that it's merciful we will be spared that spectacle.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 12:43 PM (evdj2)

423 "Romney was right, there'sa bout 47% of the country that will never, ever vote for the Republican, no matter what. They could run a Satan/Mengele ticket for the democrats and that 47% would shrug, say "still better than that Lincoln/Jesus Republican ticket," and vote for the Dem."

Yup, and that 47% will likely grow by a percent or two every year; or more if a Democrat rules.

Posted by: RM at April 27, 2016 12:43 PM (U3LtS)

424 >>>Sigh.

*itches all over*

Stupid hope.

Sigh.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 12:38 PM (mf5HN)<<<

**offers some calamine lotion**

**and some assistance applying it**

Posted by: worth a shot... **pulls up chair, lights a cigarette, awaits Ravage** at April 27, 2016 12:43 PM (H9MG5)

425 405 What is wrong with treating these kids humanely?
Cruz has not said that they should stay here permanently. But if they ARE here, they ought to be treated decently, and not treated like dirt.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:40 PM (Jcvz2)

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Yes, "kids". Like 17 year old MS-13 gang bangers. And by 17, I mean 27 year olds who claim to be 17.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:43 PM (0LHZx)

426

Update: Carly Fiorina scores a second huge win this election cycle.

Futility.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 12:43 PM (Bbsg+)

427 I like a Cruz/Fiorina ticket.
Carly was my first pick, then Cruz.
I will take this.

But like many said, probably too late for this. Should done this a month ago.

Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 27, 2016 12:44 PM (Gl74b)

428 Where the hell are all the Thunderbolts and Lightnings

They are very, very frightening.

Galileo.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:44 PM (39g3+)

429 "What is wrong with treating these kids humanely?"

One of the old sayings that perennially displays its worth is that "You should not have a hard heart. But you should also not have a heart that's so soft that you bleed to death."

America is bleeding to death. Not least from this idea that anyone from any Third World shithole can just stroll in here and start demanding stuff.

If there is any single lesson that's been learned, it's that a velvet-glove approach to illegal immigration simply encourages orders of magnitude more of it.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 12:44 PM (noWW6)

430 Ah, so Ted's going with my Option 2 from @332

Fantastic. So now I can get-on with planning how to survive from JAN17-JAN19 with President Cankles, a DEM Senate, a Ryan-'led' 221R-214D House and a leftist SCOTUS in hopes for something better to take the place of the by-then buried GOP in time for the 2018 mid-term which will likely be held during the onset of a global economic collapse.

Should be fun, don't you think???

Posted by: DocJ at April 27, 2016 12:44 PM (5Nr9V)

431 Can someone lend me a hand here? Trying to sniff glue and inject heroin into my eyeballs simultaneously has just created a horrible mess.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 12:40 PM (noWW6)

-----

**saunters over**
**looks about**

Dude, you injected the glue into your eyes and sniffed up the heroin.

Sucks to be you.

**saunters off*

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 12:44 PM (8XRCm)

432
Hows about never letting them the fvck in in the first place?

Or is that cruel?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:40 PM (Jcvz2)
That's preferable, of course.
But if they DO make it here, they should be treated humanely.
Do you disagree?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:45 PM (dpnZC)

433
I too have an annoncement: I just ate a triple Baconator.

Posted by: movie line guy at April 27, 2016 12:45 PM (qAxSt)

434 If he wanted a female VP, why not pick Kasich?

Posted by: Stinky Peterson at April 27, 2016 12:45 PM (QlyN5)

435 John Kasich is announcing at 2 that he will be at the Golden Corral in Fishers Indiana from about 4 to 9 tonight.

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Breaking News, Golden Corral plans to announce bankruptcy tonight at 9:15 PM

Posted by: CNN at April 27, 2016 12:45 PM (h/uSM)

436 They are very, very frightening.

Galileo.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:44 PM (39g3+)

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Galileo.
Figaro.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 12:45 PM (8XRCm)

437 This sounds like flailing.

Hasn't pretty much every Carly touched turned south?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 12:45 PM (4ErVI)

438 Oh, gee, big surprise. Two former Bush employees now a team? Come on, people, do you really think Cruz was vetting anyone else? Jeb, Cruz and Fiorina all happened to join the race. Cruz gave Fiorina $500K last summer to keep her in. All of Bush's peeps and his brother are on Cruz's team.

This is Jeb and the Bush family running the show.

Two losers are not going to suddenly become winners. Cruz is mathematically OUT. Even if he wins Indiana, Trump STILL has a path to the nomination. He never will.

Posted by: K-E at April 27, 2016 12:45 PM (Fa5m9)

439 Major announcement coming in a New York minute:

Posted by: Trump at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (VAsIq)

440 Wasn't just kids. Whole families.

Wasn't just teddy bears. Tables were set up with welcoming social workers.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (dU/fR)

441 Sit down and think about what you just wrote. Throughout this election, Trump has faced all the "better debators".

Like I said, just sit down and think about this.

No he hasn't. The prior debates were simply gotcha moments for Trump and he looked BAD. If you remember it was he who refused more debates, with good reason. Sharing the debate stage with 9 other people detracts attention from the audience focusing on any one candidate, but with even that screen Trump did not fair well. When he is on stage, one on one with Hillary you really think that she won't come back at him and then play the victim? Trump will bring up the email and Benghazi and she will talk Trump university and fraud. Then the moderator will ask about his misogyny towards women (possibly bringing up his arresting women who get abortions) and that is all it will take to set the narrative that will motivate the currently unmotivated democratic voter.

So, actually remember his debate appearances. Remember how bad it really was (hands anyone?) and then picture him on stage with Hillary. No contest.

Posted by: lightning at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (AP+SF)

442 I absolutely DID have sexual relations with that model. She was gorgeous.

Posted by: Trump at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (VAsIq)

443 "Romney was right, there'sa bout 47% of the country that will never, ever vote for the Republican, no matter what.

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yeah, MY Base

Posted by: TRUMP at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (h/uSM)

444 Carly must have been something before electricity

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (12kBq)

445 LIE.
________
Yes, "kids". Like 17 year old MS-13 gang bangers. And by 17, I mean 27 year olds who claim to be 17.

_________
You know damn well that is not who Cruz was giving Teddy Bears to.

You are being delibrately disingenuous.

Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (Gl74b)

446
It tells the world we welcome illegals with open arms.

How else do you perceive a Senator handing out Teddy Bears to these kids? It tells the parents America wants them.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:42 PM (sDOgQ)
Oh give me a break. You think kids from Guatemala will make the trek all the way through Mexico just to get a teddy bear?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (dpnZC)

447 Should be fun, don't you think???
Posted by: DocJ at April 27, 2016 12:44 PM (5Nr9V)

Hilarious. I trust you're heavily invested in lead and brass?

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (iLoHX)

448 383 UPDATE: Cruz will name Carly Fiorina as his VP running mate at 4.

Posted by: ace at April 27, 2016 12:33 PM (dciA+)

This will lock up the votes of the three people who wouldn't have voted for Cruz anyway.

Brilliant fucking move.

There is no doubt this guy is a Republican.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (Zs4uk)

449 It's all over except the stunts now.

Posted by: Steven at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (NPZvT)

450 But if they DO make it here, they should be treated humanely.
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General pop - Removed humanely.
Obvious MS-13 - humanely delivered to death squads

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (NUqwG)

451 Update: Carly Fiorina scores a second huge win this election cycle.

Yeah. She can lose as a Presidential AND vice-presidential candidate in the same primary.

Posted by: Stinky Peterson at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (QlyN5)

452
Hey dummy Ted, why didnt you make your big announcement *before* the primaries?

Posted by: movie line guy at April 27, 2016 12:47 PM (qAxSt)

453 Fantastic. So now I can get-on with planning how to survive from JAN17-JAN19 with President Cankles, a DEM Senate, a Ryan-'led' 221R-214D House and a leftist SCOTUS in hopes for something better to take the place of the by-then buried GOP in time for the 2018 mid-term which will likely be held during the onset of a global economic collapse.

Should be fun, don't you think???
Posted by: DocJ at April 27, 2016 12:44 PM (5Nr9V)

*********

Sounds about right.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 12:47 PM (mcm0N)

454 Trump is a liberal.
Hence his wins yesterday in the North East.
At this point, I consider all, yes all, of his supporters moderate to Progressive Liberals, based on their support for this idiot.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 27, 2016 12:34 PM (Gl74b)

Counterpoint: northeastern conservatives, while squishy in places, are far, far more aware of the advanced state of brainwashing and open advocacy of totalitarianism prevalent on the rank and file left and want a shit-flinging wild card who will punch the left in the throat and take the wind out of the snowflake student activist left's sails, not another beltway trial lawyer who's internalized the failure theater, go down with the ship and my principles, can't be un presidential whatever would mother think playbook

Posted by: Phone of kari at April 27, 2016 12:47 PM (XcZpa)

455 Trump to announce that his VP pick is the Rockettes.

Posted by: Stinky Peterson at April 27, 2016 12:47 PM (QlyN5)

456 There is no doubt this guy is a Republican.

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And yet, we are on the verge of nominating a Democrat. Weird.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 12:47 PM (gmeXX)

457 wow, this just confirms my non-support for ted.

Posted by: bjk at April 27, 2016 12:47 PM (x2rNW)

458 But if they DO make it here, they should be treated humanely.
Do you disagree?

For the 30 minutes it takes to load them on a bus and deposit them on the other side of the river? Yes. Months? No.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:47 PM (Jcvz2)

459 "Then the moderator will ask about his misogyny towards women (possibly bringing up his arresting women who get abortions) and that is all it will take to set the narrative that will motivate the currently unmotivated democratic voter. "

And then Trump will fire back with a line on Bill's infidelity.

Posted by: shadowofashade at April 27, 2016 12:47 PM (fmjBk)

460 Cruz is going to announce he's getting his pinnochio honker trimmed, and retiring from politics for a fulfilling life as a porn star.

Posted by: Ti at April 27, 2016 12:48 PM (uyrlv)

461 Cognitive dissonance from TDSville.

The Trump's foreign policy speech is a really good evisceration of the Obama/Clinton record.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 12:48 PM (1xUj/)

462 Yeah. She can lose as a Presidential AND vice-presidential candidate in the same primary.
Posted by: Stinky Peterson at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (QlyN5)
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first woman to do so
first ugly to do so
so many histrionic firsts available

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:48 PM (NUqwG)

463 I guess shes OK, in a competent, knowledgeable non--MILF-y sort of way.

Posted by: Sarah Palin at April 27, 2016 12:48 PM (h/uSM)

464 Oh give me a break. You think kids from Guatemala will make the trek all the way through Mexico just to get a teddy bear?

Clue by four: They made the trip. The bear was gravy. Most got soccer balls.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:49 PM (Jcvz2)

465 "there'sa bout 47% of the country that will never, ever vote for the Republican,"

If the Republican is as RINO as Romney. Romney lied to his supporters. Lots of people who might have voted R didn't because they were sure Mitt Romneycare was lying. After the election Romney confirmed that.

Only two paths to reform. A leader leads to a new system or the old system collapses and is replaced by something for better or worse. To say Romney is a leader is laughable. Burnside Romney.

Posted by: huh? at April 27, 2016 12:49 PM (Bbcs8)

466 Hows about never letting them the fvck in in the first place?

Or is that cruel?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:40 PM (Jcvz2)
That's preferable, of course.
But if they DO make it here, they should be treated humanely.
Do you disagree?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:45 PM (dpnZC)
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Every office I have ever been in has a drawer with 'giveaway' distraction stuff for kids who are stuck there for whatever reason. Doesn't change the fact that they don't belong there. Every police dept has a closet with distraction stuff for kids who are stuck there as well. Doesn't change the fact that they don't belong there.
Keep them distracted while the adults do business.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 27, 2016 12:49 PM (MIKMs)

467 Eh--you forgot the court of appeals appointments and how Hillary takes the first mandate she's ever had --and goes for single-payer.

(Yes we gave her--her "mandate"---yeeeee haas)

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 12:49 PM (mcm0N)

468 I've made my VP pick, too--myself. Trump and his glorious ego. I'm gonna win, and I'm gonna keep winning, just me and myself.

Posted by: Trump at April 27, 2016 12:49 PM (VAsIq)

469 BREAKING: Cruz is also going to announce the names of his first three Supreme Court picks, his 2020 reelection campaign manager, and the location of his Presidential Library.

Posted by: A.S. at April 27, 2016 12:49 PM (0tbQ4)

470 If he wanted a female VP, why not pick Kasich?
Posted by: Stinky Peterson at April 27, 2016 12:45 PM (QlyN5)

That's so mean I wish I said it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 12:49 PM (mf5HN)

471 I'm so ronery

Posted by: Marco Rubio's Garbage Can at April 27, 2016 12:49 PM (12kBq)

472 Sure seems like lots of new people coming in...

But this whole thing really does reek of desperation coming as it does after last night. It's not good trying to do something like this from a position of weakness. Oh well we'll see what happens.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 12:50 PM (4ErVI)

473
America is bleeding to death. Not least from
this idea that anyone from any Third World shithole can just stroll in
here and start demanding stuff.

If there is any single lesson
that's been learned, it's that a velvet-glove approach to illegal
immigration simply encourages orders of magnitude more of it.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 12:44 PM (noWW6)
Look, no one here is saying that the illegals ought to stay, or that their entitled demands ought to be listened to.
I see it this way. If you find an otherwise desperate person on your doorstep, and this person doesn't appear to have violent intent, would you at least give this person a glass of water before calling the police on them? That's all I'm saying.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:50 PM (dpnZC)

474 Should be fun, don't you think???
Posted by: DocJ at April 27, 2016 12:44 PM (5Nr9V)

Hilarious. I trust you're heavily invested in lead and brass?
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (iLoHX)

Prob more than I need but never as much as I'd like, if you're picking-up what I'm laying-down.

Posted by: DocJ at April 27, 2016 12:50 PM (5Nr9V)

475 Uh-oh, more bad news for the Branch Trumpidians:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/ homepage/news/7107785/ Violent-gang-of-ladyboys- mugging-tourists-warn- Thai-police-after-German- man-was-attacked-in- girlie-resort-town.html

Posted by: Country Singer at April 27, 2016 12:50 PM (uiwCw)

476 The Trump boosters demanding Cruz drop out because he is 'mathematically eliminated', they're gonna demand the same of Trump if he doesn't get 1237?

Posted by: mugiwara at April 27, 2016 12:50 PM (d4wsP)

477 Oh give me a break. You think kids from Guatemala will make the trek all the way through Mexico just to get a teddy bear?
Posted by: chemjeff

It's the symbolism, not the actual gift. I thought that was obvious.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:50 PM (sDOgQ)

478 "just to get a "

pussy, section 8 housing and SNAP.

Posted by: huh? at April 27, 2016 12:50 PM (Bbcs8)

479 "What is wrong with treating these kids humanely?"

Cements the message:

"The Cultural Right is more disgusted by the thought of New Englanders
joining the Republican tent than they are about illegals streaming over
the Mexican border, or their Tea Party heroes giving Obama everything he
asked for in the omnibus budget."

Also the fact that you so easily conflate 'forming the welcoming committee' with 'treating kids humanely' shows how captured your mind is by liberal bromides. You'd best unfuck yourself if you want to stand any hope of unfucking your country.

Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 12:51 PM (61Gds)

480 location of his Presidential Library.
Posted by: A.S. at April 27, 2016 12:49 PM (0tbQ4)
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Calgary

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 12:51 PM (NUqwG)

481 Everyone seems pretty low in here. Try rubbing one out before you go...

Posted by: David Carradine at April 27, 2016 12:51 PM (12kBq)

482 Look, no one here is saying that the illegals ought to stay, or that their entitled demands ought to be listened to.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:50 PM (dpnZC)

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Ummm ...... you have.

Repeatedly.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 12:51 PM (8XRCm)

483 470 If he wanted a female VP, why not pick Kasich?
Posted by: Stinky Peterson at April 27, 2016 12:45 PM (QlyN5)

That's so mean I wish I said it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 12:49 PM (mf5HN)

Has everyone forgotten me?

Posted by: Miz Lindsay, that fetching Southern belle at April 27, 2016 12:51 PM (u0lmX)

484
Clue by four: They made the trip. The bear was gravy. Most got soccer balls.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:49 PM (Jcvz2)
The implication was that handing out teddy bears would serve as some incentive for more to make the trip. I think that's a fairly absurd claim.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:51 PM (dpnZC)

485 But if they DO make it here, they should be treated humanely.

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if they can make it here,
hey can make it anywhere...

Posted by: NY at April 27, 2016 12:51 PM (h/uSM)

486 But if they DO make it here, they should be treated humanely.

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if they can make it here,
hey can make it anywhere...

Posted by: NY at April 27, 2016 12:51 PM (h/uSM)

487 I just gave an absolutely wonderful speech on foreign policy. I'm still not sure what it said--that was the first time I saw it--but it's gonna win. Look at the polls: I'm winning all the ones that are right.

Posted by: Trump at April 27, 2016 12:52 PM (VAsIq)

488 361 UPDATE: Cruz will name Carly Fiorina as his VP running mate at 4.

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YESSSSSSSS

Posted by: Tina Fey at April 27, 2016 12:53 PM (h/uSM)

489 Ummm ...... you have.

Repeatedly.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 12:51 PM (8XRCm)
No I haven't. I have said time and again that illegals ought to be deported.
I don't think that they should be entitled to free health care paid for by the government, or free education, or what have you.
All I have said along the way is that they should be treated as human beings, and not like dirt.
If you take that as "wanting to coddle the illegals" then I find that more than a bit sad.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:53 PM (dpnZC)

490 Trump to pick VP candidate at new 'Miss Vice-America' pageant this June in Atlantic City.

Posted by: Stinky Peterson at April 27, 2016 12:53 PM (QlyN5)

491 @476:

Cruz demanded Kasich drop because he had no chance to get the nomination, and yet Cruz nows violates his own demand.

It's called being consistent.

Posted by: shadowofashade at April 27, 2016 12:53 PM (fmjBk)

492 The Trump's foreign policy speech is a really good evisceration of the Obama/Clinton record.

Posted by: Bandersnatch

He thrashed her soundly in his responses to the media questions.

My prediction: We ain't seen nothing yet.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 12:54 PM (Bbsg+)

493 My first choice for VP won't work, because she's running for President, too.

Posted by: Trump at April 27, 2016 12:54 PM (VAsIq)

494 I see it this way. If you find an otherwise desperate person on your doorstep, and this person doesn't appear to have violent intent, would you at least give this person a glass of water before calling the police on them? That's all I'm saying.

Why not close the gate so they CAN'T get to your doorstep?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:54 PM (Jcvz2)

495 I wonder if Carly can see Russia from her front porch?

(get ready for something like that, anyhow)

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 27, 2016 12:54 PM (gyKtp)

496 As someone who lives in the Northeast, I can assure you, the Republican minority isn't some super conservative bunch. They're mostly liberals who want their taxes lowered. Why then they support the guy who promises to jack up their taxes higher than the donks is beyond me, but it isn't because they're in anyway conservative.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 27, 2016 12:54 PM (d4wsP)

497 Maybe Carly is going to announce Ted has her VP pick. They're both equally mathematically eliminaTED, so why not?

Posted by: Steven at April 27, 2016 12:54 PM (NPZvT)

498
Damn it!!! I was hoping to be Cruz's VP. Just Damn it....

~sniff-sniff~

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 12:55 PM (HSmrB)

499 My prediction: We ain't seen nothing yet.

Bbbbbb baby

Posted by: Randy Bachmann at April 27, 2016 12:55 PM (12kBq)

500 484
Clue by four: They made the trip. The bear was gravy. Most got soccer balls.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:49 PM (Jcvz2)
The implication was that handing out teddy bears would serve as some incentive for more to make the trip. I think that's a fairly absurd claim.

The fact that they were welcomed in the first place is sad.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:55 PM (Jcvz2)

501 Look, no one here is saying that the illegals ought to stay, or that their entitled demands ought to be listened to.
I see it this way. If you find an otherwise desperate person on your doorstep, and this person doesn't appear to have violent intent, would you at least give this person a glass of water before calling the police on them? That's all I'm saying.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:50 PM (dpnZC)

Nope. Because the second I open the door, the guy standing to the side that you can't see will kick it in and rob you.

This is actually basic self defense stuff that I thought everyone knew. That poor sobbing woman on the porch at 3:00 a.m. with a flat tire? Very well could be just what she says. She could also be the front for the home invaders on either side.

You don't open the door. You say I'm so terribly sorry, here, let me call the police and AAA and then you lock and bar the door, call the cops and grab your weapon if it's not already to hand. Again, this is basic, basic self defense stuff.

It's not heartless, it's reality.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 12:55 PM (mf5HN)

502 Cruz attempting to win on Democratic terms again (we're the REAL pro-woman party!) Sure it'll go great.

Posted by: Observer at April 27, 2016 12:56 PM (amQdW)

503
[AnoinTED continues to threaten Trump despite getting both his arms and one of his legs cut off]
AnoinTED: Right, I'll do you for that!
Trump: You'll what?
AnoinTED: Come here!
Trump: What are you gonna do, bleed on me?
AnoinTED: I'm invincible!
Trump: ...You're a loony.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 12:56 PM (r1fLd)

504 The implication was that handing out teddy bears would serve as some
incentive for more to make the trip. I think that's a fairly absurd
claim.>>>

The picture in the paper back home of them getting the teddy bear will attract more to come. Not for the teddy bear but because it erases the fear they had of handcuffs and deportation.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 27, 2016 12:56 PM (tf9Ne)

505 No I haven't. I have said time and again that illegals ought to be deported.
I don't think that they should be entitled to free health care paid for by the government, or free education, or what have you.
All I have said along the way is that they should be treated as human beings, and not like dirt.
If you take that as "wanting to coddle the illegals" then I find that more than a bit sad.
Posted by: chemjeff

You make it sound like a US Senator NOT handing out gifts is the definition of being treated unfairly.

Nobody here is saying the kids should be whipped in the public square.

They should receive the same treatment anyone in jail receives. Maybe that will send a message to their shitty parents.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:56 PM (sDOgQ)

506 327 Demographics are killing the GOP. And not just Hispanics. Putting that aside, it's the social demographics. Single mothers outnumber married mothers in many states. The yuuutes aren't getting married anymore. Despite all the SSM craziness, fewer and fewer people are getting married, gay or straight. The shift in population from rural to urban. The trend towards minimalist living, ie the tiny house, the trend away from owning a car.

All these things hurt the GOP and help Democrats.

Plus add in 20-30M illegals who will become legal voters within a decade.....you can do the math what happens electorally.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 12:27 PM (0LHZx)

not too mention that a couple with 130+ IQs is so overtaxed that they have only1-2 kids, while a parasite with an IQ of 82 is subsidized to have as many as she desires.

Posted by: Avi at April 27, 2016 12:56 PM (fijdj)

507 That chin / That face 2016 !

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 12:56 PM (nbrY/)

508 If Trump is smart here, he focuses on Clinton and tying her to Obama, how bad she is, and how he'll do better from here on out. He needs to just ignore Cruz entirely and pretend he's won already, then full steam ahead on defeating Hillary, period.

I don't think he's that smart or capable of focusing.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:56 PM (39g3+)

509 461 Cognitive dissonance from TDSville.

The Trump's foreign policy speech is a really good evisceration of the Obama/Clinton record.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 12:48 PM (1xUj/)

******

Didn't see it, but willing to bet he read it. And I know it's not something that he has internalized and we have absolutely no proof or record of what he would do in the area of foreign policy-- the single greatest and almos sole responsibility of the Presidency.

What we do have is opportunistic pivoting--like the wind --opinion from Trump while he sat on the sidelines offering critique like a movie reviewer for The New York Times. A Frank Rich without consistency.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 12:57 PM (mcm0N)

510 Trump answers by doubling down with Mia Love...
or Beyonce.

Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2016 12:57 PM (DL2i+)

511 Nope. Because the second I open the door, the guy standing to the side that you can't see will kick it in and rob you.

This is actually basic self defense stuff that I thought everyone knew. That poor sobbing woman on the porch at 3:00 a.m. with a flat tire? Very well could be just what she says. She could also be the front for the home invaders on either side.

You don't open the door. You say I'm so terribly sorry, here, let me call the police and AAA and then you lock and bar the door, call the cops and grab your weapon if it's not already to hand. Again, this is basic, basic self defense stuff.

It's not heartless, it's reality.
Posted by: alexthechick

When you've lost the 'ettes, give it up.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 12:57 PM (Jcvz2)

512 Cruz had to pick a VP. Because while the deal with Kasich says Cruz won't campaign in Oregon and NM the deal never said that the candidates VP pick couldn't campaign in those states.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at April 27, 2016 12:57 PM (B+Arn)

513 Gotta say I suspect Fiorina is gonna be a net negative for Cruz in California.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 27, 2016 12:57 PM (21hN3)

514 You make it sound like a US Senator NOT handing out gifts is the definition of being treated unfairly.
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You don't have a heart.

Posted by: Ricky Perry - master of the short campaign at April 27, 2016 12:58 PM (NUqwG)

515 Why can't Cruz fans just say "that was a stupid move by Ted Cruz" instead of defending the Teddy Bear stunt?

I guarantee you had Hillary done that the same thing , these same people would be foaming at the mouth.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 12:58 PM (sDOgQ)

516 You don't open the door. You say I'm so terribly sorry, here, let me call the police and AAA and then you lock and bar the door, call the cops and grab your weapon if it's not already to hand. Again, this is basic, basic self defense stuff.

The presumption of common sense here is really unjustified in modern American culture.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 12:59 PM (39g3+)

517 Acts of Love

Posted by: HEB ! - not dead just really, low energy at April 27, 2016 12:59 PM (Bbsg+)

518 Look at that ticket! Would anybody vote for that?

Posted by: TRUMP at April 27, 2016 12:59 PM (h/uSM)

519 Remember this couple?

http://goo.gl/enxRLK

Reverend and his gf murdered their spouses, got caught, sent to prison, remarried, paroled and live happily ever after? What a travesty.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 12:59 PM (iQIUe)

520 "If he wanted a female VP, why not pick Kasich?"

There was a photo from the other day of Canquelles "inspecting" work at an auto factory, with the sort of creepy North Korean aura with which such industrial visits always reverberate.

I absolutely swear that with my first glance at the face, I thought it was Kasich in a dress. See for yourselves. (SFW.)

http://tinyurl.com/gktppaw

Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 12:59 PM (noWW6)

521 Politics and consistency only occasionally mix.

Posted by: Ricky Perry - master of the short campaign at April 27, 2016 12:59 PM (NUqwG)

522 Why can't Cruz fans just say "that was a stupid move by Ted Cruz" instead of defending the Teddy Bear stunt?

I like Ted Cruz, but yeah, I did say that. This need to defend every stupid thing someone does 'cause he's our guy is just frustrating. If someone does something dumb or wrong, then don't be afraid to note that. Its not like it costs you anything.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:00 PM (39g3+)

523 Trumps speech is excellent.
using a teleprompter, but seems like he's talking extemporaneously

Posted by: Avi at April 27, 2016 01:00 PM (fijdj)

524 I've lost a little respect for Cruz with this announcement.

All Fiorina is going to is be an attack dog and try to damage Trump as much as possible and Team Cruz is still going lose.

So what's the point of saving the eventual nominee?

But this is par for the course with the stupid party.

Oy yoy yoy!

Posted by: Kreplach at April 27, 2016 01:00 PM (3MZBD)

525 Why can't Cruz fans just say "that was a stupid move by Ted Cruz" instead of defending the Teddy Bear stunt?

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Because you keep bringing it up as your basis for why Cruz is bad on immigration. Just give it a rest.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 01:00 PM (gmeXX)

526 Why can't Cruz fans just say "that was a stupid move by Ted Cruz" instead of defending the Teddy Bear stunt?

Because apparently this election cycle supporters of presidential candidates are required to defend any damn-fool thing they say to the nth-degree, at least until the walkback starts.

Posted by: DocJ at April 27, 2016 01:00 PM (5Nr9V)

527 The good news is that while this will have no bearing on this election (Trump is going to be the nominee) it does set Cruz up as being the nominee in waiting to run against Hillary in 2020. Cruz and Ryan will be the most powerful Republicans in Washington next year.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 27, 2016 01:00 PM (4N8Cn)

528 Trump better hope Hillary gets indicted because short of that he isn't going to come close to Romney's numbers with women.
Posted by: JackStraw
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In the heads of Trump followers, there exists a fantasy that those negative numbers don't mean anything. In a miraculous season, Trump, like the Pied Piper, will attract millions of disaffected Democrats and eke out a victory.

They cannot imagine that the zeal that they feel isn't secretly felt by everyone, that the sheer magnificence of Teh Donald's being will not overcome the lavish public shaming that the Dems and media will feed to the swinish multitude.

There is considerable confusion among the Donald followers regarding their vision of Donald, and what he actually is, and between his rants, and his substance.

If cognitive dissonance was deus ex machina then there would be reason to hope that they are correct, as I might live better with a Trumpery than with a Hillary, but... it isn't.

Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 01:01 PM (9mTYi)

529 All Trumptards, November 9th, 2016:

"He would have won if the GOPe had supported him. It's all your fault. He almost won in Mississippi and Utah, and then he'd only have been 215 electoral votes short.

It's all your fault! It's ALL YOUR FAULT *spittle at corner of mouth*

Trump 2020!!!"

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius' Underpants at April 27, 2016 01:01 PM (nUqBH)

530 I'll bet little Marco is kicking himself in the ass now...

Of course, I'll also bet there are lines of people who gave up their careers to work for Marco who would have had fantastic positions in the Trump administration if he had made a deal right after dropping out.

They would like to get a few kicks in too.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2016 01:01 PM (Zs4uk)

531 This race is over. Cruz has no way to win the nomination outright.

The last contested convention ... WAS CLOSE between Ford and Reagan. Ford won two more States than Reagan did, and the difference in the delegate count between the two was barely 100.

AND YET - in that close race - the nomination was given to FORD.

And you guys THINK that you can strip the nomination away from Trump at the convention in a race that HAS NOT EVEN BEEN CLOSE? Trump has nearly twice as many delegates as Cruz.

My GOD guys ... give up the delusion already - it's worse than the GOP establishment, who wandered into this election thinking they actually were going to sew it up like always.

Posted by: Thor at April 27, 2016 01:01 PM (sa6+8)

532 How in the hell is candidate butt-hair winning these primaries? Who in the fuck votes for someone like him. I assume it is mostly dimocrats crossing over, candidate butt-hair as the repub nom is a win/win/win for them.

Posted by: doc at April 27, 2016 01:01 PM (u1SjL)

533 All of the Trump and Clinton supporters will have a field day mocking their looks. Look for posters of Cruz as Grandpa Munster and Fiorina as Lilly. As we know, both Trump and Clinton are the visual Jolie-Pitt of the political world!

Hastert going to prison for 15 months. Clinton remains free. What a world.

Posted by: Cheri at April 27, 2016 01:01 PM (oiNtH)

534 I see it this way. If you find an otherwise desperate person on your doorstep, and this person doesn't appear to have violent intent, would you at least give this person a glass of water before calling the police on them? That's all I'm saying.

Me no got no agua.

Posted by: flygal at April 27, 2016 01:02 PM (TCUz4)

535 So the TV will be insufferable for the next week.
Not a lot of yard signs yet. The early Bernie's are still up and 2 Trumps around the block. More local signs everywhere.

Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2016 01:02 PM (DL2i+)

536 The only hope republicans have to win in the fall is to keep the democratic voter turnout at "historic lows". If turnout is average or they are motivated to get out and vote in November, the Republican nominee (whoever it is) loses. Personally, I think that Trump as the nominee will motivate the currently unmotivated democratic voter, which will result in a loss. There is a possibility that any other Republican candidate could win as long as nothing in their past could be used to get the unmotivated off their butts. Regardless, here is hoping that they all stay home and we get to pick they next Supreme.

Posted by: lightning at April 27, 2016 01:02 PM (AP+SF)

537 The good news is that while this will have no
bearing on this election (Trump is going to be the nominee) it does set
Cruz up as being the nominee in waiting to run against Hillary in 2020.
Cruz and Ryan will be the most powerful Republicans in Washington next
year. Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 27, 2016 01:00 PM (4N8Cn)
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That is my hope. Even as squishy as Ryan is, maybe he could get some spinal infusions from Cruz, Paul and Lee.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 27, 2016 01:03 PM (MIKMs)

538 And you guys THINK that you can strip the nomination away from Trump at the convention in a race that HAS NOT EVEN BEEN CLOSE? Trump has nearly twice as many delegates as Cruz.

Oh no, we won't be stripping the nomination from Trump and giving it to Cruz.

It will be someone like Jeb Bush. I mean, be serious here.

Posted by: GOPe at April 27, 2016 01:03 PM (39g3+)

539 Telegenic Twins 2016

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 27, 2016 01:03 PM (T78UI)

540 Trump is cleaning house with 60% victories and Cruz is . . . picking a VP? This is not gonna work. It looks delusional and desperate.

Posted by: wte9 at April 27, 2016 01:03 PM (xYr9U)

541 OK, I have been avoiding the primary news for weeks (because: depressing circus), but why announce his VP pick when he is at a point where it is mathematically impossible (or near impossible?) to get the nomination?

What am I missing?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 01:03 PM (NOIQH)

542 AND YET - in that close race - the nomination was given to FORD.

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You mean they gave it to the incumbent President? A well respected man who had served his country?

If Trump doesn't win, nothing will have been stripped from him.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 01:03 PM (gmeXX)

543 "they're gonna demand the same of Trump if he doesn't get 1237?"

Not if he has the most votes. :-)

Most people in the GOPe want to keep their sinecures. Some positions are likely to not be funded because the party will lose support if Trump isn't the nominee and if he doesn't win. Big donors will drop the GOPe since they depend on captured government agencies for their income. That's why they bet on all the horses in the race.

Posted by: huh? at April 27, 2016 01:03 PM (Bbcs8)

544 Who are all of these new people? Who was supposed to be watching the door? And goddammit who put the moose in the closet?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 01:03 PM (4ErVI)

545 How in the hell is candidate butt-hair winning these primaries? Who in the fuck votes for someone like him. I assume it is mostly dimocrats crossing over, candidate butt-hair as the repub nom is a win/win/win for them.
Posted by: doc at April 27, 2016 01:01 PM (u1SjL)

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Clinton

Trump

Kinda demolishes the "b-b-b-b-b-but unfavorables" argument.

Eh?

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:03 PM (8XRCm)

546 Just a walk down memory lane ...

At the '76 convention ... Reagan was behind Ford, so he decided to make a "Hail Mary" and name a running mate in order to boost his chances with moderates.

IT BACKFIRED TREMENDOUSLY.

Posted by: Thor at April 27, 2016 01:04 PM (sa6+8)

547 Because apparently this election cycle supporters of presidential candidates are required to defend any damn-fool thing they say to the nth-degree, at least until the walkback starts.
Posted by: DocJ at April 27, 2016 01:00 PM (5Nr9V)

Dude. I'm a Browns and Indians fan. That takes up my entire allotment of defending stupid shit for several millenia and through numerous multiverses.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:04 PM (mf5HN)

548 I've been asking this for weeks now but haven't yet seen an answer that is deeper than, "and then a miracle happened". Can any Trump supporter give an intelligent reason to believe that a guy who is detested by 2/3rds of the country doesn't get blown out in the general election?

Posted by: mugiwara at April 27, 2016 01:04 PM (d4wsP)

549 Trump.

Pretty fucking presidential.

Hopefully, he'll turn around and moon the press at the end of the speech.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2016 01:04 PM (Zs4uk)

550 If Cruz keeps this up he's another Huckabee or Santorum if he runs again.

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 01:04 PM (WBahS)

551

Just damn it!!!

~sniff-sniff~

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 01:04 PM (HSmrB)

552 531 This race is over. Cruz has no way to win the nomination outright.

The last contested convention ... WAS CLOSE between Ford and Reagan. Ford won two more States than Reagan did, and the difference in the delegate count between the two was barely 100.

AND YET - in that close race - the nomination was given to FORD.

And you guys THINK that you can strip the nomination away from Trump at the convention in a race that HAS NOT EVEN BEEN CLOSE? Trump has nearly twice as many delegates as Cruz.

My GOD guys ... give up the delusion already - it's worse than the GOP establishment, who wandered into this election thinking they actually were going to sew it up like always.
Posted by: Thor at April 27, 2016 01:01 PM (sa6+

***********

Just as delusional to think Trump wins the Presidency.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:05 PM (mcm0N)

553 "Cruz and Ryan will be the most powerful Republicans in Washington next year."

Cruz won't quit the race because when he does he goes back to being a first term Senator hated by nearly all the other Senators.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 01:05 PM (r1fLd)

554 here, let me call the police and AAA and then you lock and bar the door,

Okay, fine. That is a perfectly understandable response. But even according to you, you are willing to call AAA *in addition* to calling the police. That isn't even necessary, right? That is treating the person at least with a bit of humanity. I'm speaking against those people who think even calling AAA for the woman with a flat tire is some horrible horrible incentive that will draw more people with flat tires to come to your door. THAT is patently absurd I think.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:05 PM (dpnZC)

555 It will be someone like Jeb Bush. I mean, be serious here.

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Nope.

We are going to insert.....

*drumroll*

ERIC FUCKING CANTOR!!!!

Doent fuck with us.....plebes.

Posted by: GOPe at April 27, 2016 01:06 PM (8XRCm)

556 "If Cruz keeps this up he's another Huckabee or Santorum if he runs again."

Right on.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 01:06 PM (r1fLd)

557 Oh, and Ace, could you please ban all these low functioning Trump bots? I know it's bad for business but things are bad enough having to now contemplate 8 more years of Clintons stealing White House silver-ware without having to listen to Trump dolts gloating.

Posted by: doc at April 27, 2016 01:06 PM (u1SjL)

558 I can see a big advantage to Carly joining herself to the ticket, even if it's ultimately doomed. This will take a moment to explain, so bear with me.

The GOP voters are big on "heir apparents" when it comes to presidential nominations. Positioning yourself as the designated successor of the current guy in charge can pay big dividends when the next presidential election cycle rolls around. But Romney didn't leave an "heir apparent". No one else did all that well in the primary in 2012. And Romney's VP candidate, Ryan, isn't running for president.

Trump is actively disliked by a good-sized chunk of the GOP base - possibly even a majority. Any "heir" designation on his part is thus going to be poison to a very large part of the GOP base, and thus start out with a very large handicap if they decide to run in the next election cycle. My gut says that Cruz isn't going to run in four years, unless he's the one who ends up in the White House next January. But since he's the "anti-Trump" front-runner, anyone who manages to look like his "heir" will get a boost in presidential primary four years from now.

Posted by: junior at April 27, 2016 01:06 PM (t+Qw5)

559 Trump is cleaning house with 60% victories and Cruz is . . . picking a VP? This is not gonna work. It looks delusional and desperate.
Posted by: wte9
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*throws flag*

Oh, you mean that garnering 37% of the voters is 'cleaning house'.

Yes, yes... the enthusiasm is overwhelming.

Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 01:06 PM (9mTYi)

560 At the '76 convention ... Reagan was behind Ford, so he decided to make a "Hail Mary" and name a running mate in order to boost his chances with moderates.

IT BACKFIRED TREMENDOUSLY.

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I'm not so sure it backfired or it just didn't work out. Reagan was likely not going to win that convention fight. For the obvious reason that Ford was the sitting President. Trump is not. In the end, it may work out just the same as it did for Reagan, but this is much different from 1976.

Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 01:06 PM (gmeXX)

561 544 Who are all of these new people? Who was supposed to be watching the door? And goddammit who put the moose in the closet?

Trump is allowing his acolytes to use the internet today...as long as they don't contact their families or try to alert authorities.

Posted by: Marcus Aurelius' Underpants at April 27, 2016 01:07 PM (nUqBH)

562 Nope. Because the second I open the door, the guy standing to the side that you can't see will kick it in and rob you.

This is actually basic self defense stuff that I thought everyone knew. That poor sobbing woman on the porch at 3:00 a.m. with a flat tire? Very well could be just what she says. She could also be the front for the home invaders on either side.

You don't open the door. You say I'm so terribly sorry, here, let me call the police and AAA and then you lock and bar the door, call the cops and grab your weapon if it's not already to hand. Again, this is basic, basic self defense stuff.

It's not heartless, it's reality.--------alexthechick

Exactly.

Posted by: N.W.A. - Hot Fuzz at April 27, 2016 01:07 PM (+aCe4)

563 548 read Scott Adams last post

This ain't that hard

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 01:07 PM (WBahS)

564 Reagan tried this stunt in 1976 with Pennsylvania Senator Richard Schweiker.

Posted by: James T Kirk at April 27, 2016 01:07 PM (GjigR)

565 Cruz and Ryan will be the most powerful Republicans in Washington next year.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 27, 2016 01:00 PM (4N8Cn)

With Scankles as prez, talk about the "most powerful Republicans in Washington" is like referring to the tallest munchkins in Oz.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 27, 2016 01:07 PM (u0lmX)

566 You mean they gave it to the incumbent President? A well respected man who had served his country?

Yes, Ford was so WELL respected that Reagan almost beat him.

Ford was President - but he had never been elected to that position.

And - in any case ... that was a close race. Trump will walk into the convention with over 1,000 delegates (if he doesn't have the requisite number outright). Meanwhile - Cruz won't be anywhere near that.

Yes, the party can survive a super-shenanigan where a guy who got 25 % of the popular vote and a few States gets the nomination over a guy who completely wiped his face in the dirt in the polls.

I don't think so.

Posted by: Thor at April 27, 2016 01:07 PM (sa6+8)

567 Carly would make a fine VP. She's a good a choice as any in the field.

Posted by: Fritz at April 27, 2016 01:08 PM (UzPAd)

568 If Cruz keeps this up he's another Huckabee....

_____

Nope. Huckabee had the common sense to givie it up once he was mathematically eliminated by Romney.

Cruz...??

Not so much.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:08 PM (8XRCm)

569 "If you find an otherwise desperate person on your doorstep, and this
person doesn't appear to have violent intent, would you at least give
this person a glass of water before calling the police on them? That's
all I'm saying."

Alex, I'll take "Weak Metaphors Strained Past The Bursting Point" for a thousand, please.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 01:08 PM (noWW6)

570 This ain't hard as in improving Trumps favorable and increasing Hillarys unfavorables.

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 01:08 PM (WBahS)

571 Dude. I'm a Browns and Indians fan. That takes up my entire allotment of defending stupid shit for several millenia and through numerous multiverses.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:04 PM (mf5HN)

Wow - that is a cornucopia of fail right there. Sorry AtC.

shoves a brownie into the usb port

Posted by: DocJ at April 27, 2016 01:08 PM (5Nr9V)

572 Trump within 3% of Clinton

Posted by: James T Kirk at April 27, 2016 01:08 PM (GjigR)

573 It was really a good choice by Cruz. You never pick a VP that's more attractive than you.

So his options were quite limited.

Me, i can't decide between George Clooney and Bradley Cooper

Posted by: TRUMP at April 27, 2016 01:09 PM (h/uSM)

574 Posted by: Thor at April 27, 2016 01:01 PM (sa6+

But....does anyone have any understanding exactly why this will be, in all likelihood, a contested convention?

It's because the frontrunner was insufficiently popular to get enough delegates.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 27, 2016 01:09 PM (Zu3d9)

575 Trump can't lead in the polls.
Trump can't win a debate.
Trump can't win a primary.
Trump can't win in Florida.
Trump can't win in PA.
Trump can't win the nomination.

Trump can't win the general.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 01:09 PM (xuouz)

576 Cruz won't quit the race because when he does he goes back to being a first term Senator hated by nearly all the other Senators.
Posted by: Ignoramus
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I'm not sure how those who accuse Cruz of being GOPe resolve that in their heads.

At any rate, I regard the fact that Cruz is 'hated by nearly all the other Senators' a rather positive fact.

I run down a list of the Senate, and am hard pressed to find a Senator whose judgement I respect.

Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 01:10 PM (9mTYi)

577 I'm speaking against those people who think even calling AAA for the woman with a flat tire is some horrible horrible incentive that will draw more people with flat tires to come to your door. THAT is patently absurd I think.

Not if it's being shown in her home country about WHOSE house to go to if you have a flat tire.

THAT'S the point. It wasn't just kids showing up. It was propaganda being shown in the home country.

"Go to the USA. See how they'll treat you!"

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 01:10 PM (Jcvz2)

578 545 How in the hell is candidate butt-hair winning these primaries? Who in the fuck votes for someone like him. I assume it is mostly dimocrats crossing over, candidate butt-hair as the repub nom is a win/win/win for them.
Posted by: doc at April 27, 2016 01:01 PM (u1SjL)

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Clinton

Trump

Kinda demolishes the "b-b-b-b-b-but unfavorables" argument.

Eh?
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:03 PM (8XRCm)

**********

Her favorables haven't gone much past 41%---and her unfavorables stay below 54% on average.

Trump's unfavorables are hovering around 60%---sometimes hitting at 65%--and his favorables are averaging around something significantly less than 40%.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:10 PM (mcm0N)

579 "the nomination was given to FORD. "

A man who was very important in the JFK assassination investigation. A man who replaced Agnew just-in-time for Nixon to be forced out. A man who picked Bob Dole as his running mate.

I would think Ford might have been a founding member of GOPe.

They passed a law because of Gerald Ford. You only get to collect one federal retirement check now.
Ford made more in retirement than he did while (nominally) serving.

Posted by: huh? at April 27, 2016 01:10 PM (Bbcs8)

580 I know it's bad for business but things are bad enough having to now contemplate 8 more years of Clintons stealing White House silver-ware without having to listen to Trump dolts gloating.
Posted by: doc at April 27, 2016 01:06 PM (u1SjL)
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One glass of Flint water with a side of safe space for the doc.

Posted by: Ricky Perry - master of the short campaign at April 27, 2016 01:10 PM (NUqwG)

581 A lot of new nics expounding on us having no chance against the Hildebeast. They're like ants. Or more like cockroaches. Oh, wait. They're democrats.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 01:10 PM (Fmupd)

582 All I'm saying is, there is no disconnect between wanting to keep out the illegals/deport the illegals, and also wanting to treat them fairly and decently.

IMO too many people on the right, and around here as well, show nothing but contempt and disdain towards illegals.

I think a Jebbian "act of love" approach goes too far. But I also think that shooting the illegals at the border (as some around here have previously advocated) also goes too far in the opposite direction. That is all.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:10 PM (dpnZC)

583 Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 01:03 PM (NOIQH)

When I was a kid, sometimes a sibling would get me to play chess, which I didn't like. I'd blunder around the board and at some point I'd be reduced to moving my castle back and forth pointlessly when it was my turn, waiting for the checkmate.

Cruz is basically at that point.

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 01:10 PM (nbrY/)

584 Cruz won't quit the race because when he does he goes back to being a first term Senator hated by nearly all the other Senators.

You mean among the minority party GOP in the Senate? Sounds like a pretty good place to be. Especially since all those "angry at Washington" voters won't have Trump as their avatar. Once Trump loses we will never see him again in politics.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 27, 2016 01:10 PM (4N8Cn)

585 Looks like this fall will not be the "Battle of the Lesser Evil" but rather the Battle for Evil.

Posted by: James T Kirk at April 27, 2016 01:10 PM (GjigR)

586 Who are all of these new people? Who was supposed to be watching the door? And goddammit who put the moose in the closet?--------Dack Thrombosis

I'm not new, just wearing a whale of a sock.
And I think the squirrell put the moose in the closet.

Posted by: N.W.A. - Hot Fuzz at April 27, 2016 01:11 PM (0x/TW)

587 Most people in the GOPe want to keep their sinecures. Some positions are likely to not be funded because the party will lose support if Trump isn't the nominee and if he doesn't win. Big donors will drop the GOPe since they depend on captured government agencies for their income.

The "big donors" aren't trump fans. They're Chamber of Commerce types who were all in on Jeb, they won't be the ones bailing on the Republican Party.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:11 PM (39g3+)

588 Well I always suspected she was going to be the VP pick for someone. I thought it would be Trump though.

Go, Ted, go!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 27, 2016 01:11 PM (+9m4J)

589 Her favorables haven't gone much ^below^ 41%---and her unfavorables stay below 54% on average.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:12 PM (mcm0N)

590 Her favorables haven't gone much past 41%---and her unfavorables stay below 54% on average.

Trump's unfavorables are hovering around 60%---sometimes hitting at 65%--and his favorables are averaging around something significantly less than 40%.
Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:10 PM (mcm0N)

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So..... how the hell are they winning???

**waits for an explaination that will never arrive

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:12 PM (8XRCm)

591 Trump can't lead in the polls.
Trump can't win a debate.
Trump can't win a primary.
Trump can't win in Florida.
Trump can't win in PA.
Trump can't win the nomination.
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Um... pluralities, all of them, no?

Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 01:12 PM (9mTYi)

592 "Can any Trump supporter give an intelligent reason to believe that a guy who is detested by 2/3rds of the country doesn't get blown out in the general election?"

Trump and Hillary have much higher negatives than the other three still running. Kasich does best here. It's a strange cycle. Hillary's can be driven even higher.

Turnout is key and it will be different from 2008 and 2012. Polls that don't account for this are suspect. Hillary is unlikely to get Youth turnout, nor Black turnout like Obama. Single Women may not be any higher. Trump can get higher Non-college White, both men and women, and it's the largest single cohort.

Known Unknowns: Will Hispanic turnout be higher? Can high Hillary negatives suppress turnout among Ds? How will Independents break with two candidates with high unfavorables?

Depending on how you dial these in to an actual electoral map, you can get very different results.

Trump can hold the Romney 2012 states and add FL and two to four states like OH. If he does, he wins, even were he to lose the popular vote by five million. Losing MD and MA by 30% wouldn't matter.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 01:12 PM (r1fLd)

593 read Scott Adams last post

This ain't that hard
Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 01:07 PM (WBahS)

I am really sick of "read Scott Adams" as if he were the Oracle of Dolphins.

He made some good points about the appeal of Trump.

Also, you've been socking Megyn Kelly and AuH2O, neither of whom tend(ed) toward throwing race-baiting "cuck" phrases around.

Why don't you come up with your own persona?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 01:13 PM (1xUj/)

594 Fiorina as a VP announcement now, could help bring Cruz a few extra California R's to his fold vs Orange Julius.
As for los of votes either way. I see more Trumpers willing to vote Cruz vs the other way around.
Most of the Trumpers are just mad and generally reacting and projecting. Once Trump is out, they will be left with a choice of Cruz vs Hillary and still be mad, and reacting via emotions. The #NeverTrump crowd however is never Trump on their (ok probably our) principles not raw emotion and most see Trump and Clinton as basically the same level of danger to America.

More Trumpers will convert to Cruz vs #NeverTrumpers.

In between is the independents and Cruz doesn't piss those off by demographics like Trump does. His polling with women in general is so bad he's basically moved them all to the Dem side that Cruz would have opportunity to collect in a general.

Posted by: Janir at April 27, 2016 01:13 PM (Lk5qN)

595 Posted by: Marcus Aurelius' Underpants at April 27, 2016 01:01 PM (nUqBH)

Assuming you're right, how is that different from the Establishmentarians' assertion that Romney lost because "millions of conservatives stayed home?" (A talking point with no bearing on reality at all, yet which continues to this day).

See, this it part of the reason so many do support Trump. He's Romney from the other direction. He's exactly the same kind of opportunistic conservative (read: really a liberal) as Romney. In everything except personality he's basically a carbon copy.

Even listen to their respective talking points - Romney 2012 and Trump 2016. They're basically the same (except for the border security thing).

Against abortion "with exceptions."
America needs a strong foreign policy.
Lower taxes.
"Fix" Obamacare.

The "free" college wasn't on the map 4 years ago, but my guess is that Romney would sound similar to Trump there, too.

Yet Trump "isn't a real conservative." And he's not. Of course he's not. But why is Trump not being "a real conservative" a disqualifier when it was not one for Romney or Jeb?

And, unfortunately for Ted Cruz, the very fact that the Establishmentarians *have* started using this talking point means that it loses virtually all of its credibility with the grass-roots. And that spoils it for when Cruz wants to use it, too.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 01:13 PM (kff5f)

596 Um... pluralities, all of them, no?
Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 01:12 PM (9mTYi)

No.

NY, RI, DE, MD, CT, PA were all majorities.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 01:14 PM (xuouz)

597 Um... pluralities, all of them, no?

Hey, don't knock a plurality!

Here, put some ice on that.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 27, 2016 01:14 PM (39g3+)

598 Will Carly be coming out of a cake?

Posted by: Marcus T at April 27, 2016 01:14 PM (O0lVq)

599 Jeb! can fix it.

Posted by: Jeb! at April 27, 2016 01:14 PM (ml1PM)

600 Trump is making some good points. However, there are some issues.

First, it's Trump.
Second, he's still doing Bush lied, People Died.
Third, he wants a bi-partisan foreign policy. That would mean Half Obama, Half Trump.
Fourth, NATO still has the mission of deterring Russia, despite a reset reset button.
Fifth, he's not for closing a single agency despite the bottomless budgetary pit.
Sixth, he can't understand or explain Obama's "reckless" foreign policy. I can. And it is not reckless--it is reckoned and purposeful.
Seventh, he doesn't understand that the VA is run for the benefit of its unions, not vets just as education is not run for kids.

All these liberal blinders are why he would get rolled in DC.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 27, 2016 01:14 PM (WIuvp)

601 572 Trump within 3% of Clinton

In one poll. And the other poll released the same day had him down 11.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 27, 2016 01:15 PM (4N8Cn)

602
So..... how the hell are they winning???

**waits for an explaination that will never arrive
Posted by: fixerupper
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'Winning', in this case, means winning pluralities. Something like 37%, which jives with the high negatives. The negatives will not change... except as influenced by the Dem slam-ads that are set to Tsunami.

Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 01:15 PM (9mTYi)

603 581 A lot of new nics expounding on us having no chance against the Hildebeast. They're like ants. Or more like cockroaches. Oh, wait. They're democrats.
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 01:10 PM (Fmupd)

*******

Trump's the Democrat Soona--and he'll manage to hang on to your state--Oklahoma.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:15 PM (mcm0N)

604 I want Trump to say he'd offer the VP slot to Carly too if nominated. This whole primary is just already so damned weird. It would be the equivalent of wagering $2 when one of the other contestants wagered $1 on the Price is Right.

Posted by: shillelagh at April 27, 2016 01:15 PM (L3vVL)

605 Okay, fine. That is a perfectly understandable response. But even according to you, you are willing to call AAA *in addition* to calling the police. That isn't even necessary, right? That is treating the person at least with a bit of humanity. I'm speaking against those people who think even calling AAA for the woman with a flat tire is some horrible horrible incentive that will draw more people with flat tires to come to your door. THAT is patently absurd I think.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:05 PM (dpnZC)

You don't think I would actually call AAA do you? That's what you say to calm the person down while you call the cops and wait with gun in hand. You don't call AAA and get the poor AAA guy shot in the head.

I am treating that person humanely by which I mean I comprehend that humanity is fallen and that, sadly, you have to presume harmful intent until clearly demonstrated otherwise. Your premise is that oh that person doesn't seem harmful so said person is okay. Those stories end "Tragedy today in . . . ." far too many times.

Hell, let's scale it back from that. Were you never told do not give milk to the stray cat that's wandering around your garage because then the cat won't leave and it will end up clawing you and giving you rabies?

Same thing. It's not damn humane to act in a manner that indicates to those coming across the border that they will be treated with kindness when arriving. It's cruel. It causes kids to put themselves or be placed in the hands of human traffickers with all the horrors that ensue.

Frankly, your attempts to stake out the moral high ground here are dubious, at best.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:15 PM (mf5HN)

606

Damn it!!!!

~sniff-sniff~

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 01:15 PM (HSmrB)

607 I can't imagine any on-the-fence primary voters thinking "I can't vote Cruz...oh, wait, Fiorina is his VP pick? Well OK then!"

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 27, 2016 01:15 PM (eytER)

608 "Then the moderator will ask about his misogyny towards women (possibly bringing up his arresting women who get abortions) and that is all it will take to set the narrative that will motivate the currently unmotivated democratic voter. "

And then Trump will fire back with a line on Bill's infidelity.

Posted by: shadowofashade at April 27, 2016 12:47 PM (fmjBk)

Thus cementing Hillary's victim status with the "unmotivated" democratic voter. I hate this woman and DO NOT want her to be president. You and I probably think alike. Unfortunately as much as she is repulsive to us, she is simply undesirable to a left leaning voter leading them at this point to not vote. A republican win is possible if the unmotivated democratic voter stays at home in November. If Trump is the republican nominee he won't get democratic votes, but if enough stay home he could win. But they have to stay home.

Posted by: lightning at April 27, 2016 01:15 PM (AP+SF)

609 Why don't you come up with your own persona?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 01:13 PM (1xUj/)

Seconded. Stick around kid.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 01:16 PM (xuouz)

610 Dave in Fla,

What ever happened to your Trump white ghetto theory?Seems Cruz can only win the whitey states.

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 01:16 PM (WBahS)

611 Will Carly be coming out of a cake?
Posted by: Marcus T at April 27, 2016 01:14 PM (O0lVq)
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Hopefully from a gay or lesbian baker.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:16 PM (NUqwG)

612 While things do look pretty bleak for Cruz, adding Carly as VP is shrewd. Assuming Hillary gets the democrat nod, a woman is needed on the (R) side of the ticket. Gender politics absolutely, but it is a move to counter any rhetoric aimed at Shillary as being anti-woman.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 27, 2016 01:17 PM (jxbfJ)

613 Carly as VP?!?! This changes everything!

-said no one ever

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 01:17 PM (WBahS)

614 Trump will counter by announcing he is picking his ego as his running mate.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 27, 2016 01:17 PM (WS0Gv)

615 Winning matters. You don't get to implement any of your ideas by being the defeated.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:17 PM (mcm0N)

616 I dunno. Trump has already broken Romney's popular vote and is now on record to break the record by far. He's pulling in a very wide demographic and is appealing to Reagan Democrats. His numbers with Independents are increasing.

I'll stick with Cruz until he drops, unless he does something underhanded. But I'm starting to feel that Trump in the General is not such a bad thing.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 27, 2016 01:17 PM (O0lVq)

617 @533 Hastert going to prison for 15 months.
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I read that as 'Hastur'.

/sigh

Would have to be a very impressive prison to hold the latter...

Posted by: junior at April 27, 2016 01:17 PM (t+Qw5)

618 of course a major reason to name Carly is just to get the conversation away from 'Trump sweeps 5 states delegates'

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 27, 2016 01:18 PM (h/uSM)

619 'Winning', in this case, means winning pluralities.
Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 01:15 PM (9mTYi)

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You must have missed yesterdays results.

Plus youre telling me that the guys with HIGHEST UNFAVORABLES are winning pluralities and that the unfoavorables are going UP....

.... and the guy with all those unfavorables won MAJORITIES yesterday, despite EVERYBODY claiming that the narrower the field, the worse the asshole would do in the primaries.

You.Fail.

Try again.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:18 PM (8XRCm)

620 615 Winning matters. You don't get to implement any of your ideas by being the defeated.
Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:17 PM (mcm0N)

Eh.

Posted by: Democrat Congressional Minority at April 27, 2016 01:18 PM (L3vVL)

621 216 Trump hasn't paid any taxes in at least ten years.

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 27, 2016 12:06 PM (k4M/B)
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This time, that's likely to be a true statement.

Trump likes him some sweet, sweet depreciation.

Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 01:18 PM (LISuA)

622 Cruz and Kasich are really Kang and Kodos.

Posted by: Bobbymike at April 27, 2016 01:19 PM (rBsH0)

623 I am really sick of "read Scott Adams" as if he were the Oracle of Dolphins.

He made some good points about the appeal of Trump.

"He made some good points" and some spot-on predictions. It's the "spot-on predictions" which make him worth reading. If he had been wrong - like much of the pundit class is so often - then his would be one more voice with an opinion. As it is, he either is just very strangely lucky or *actually* has some relevant insight into what's going on.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 01:19 PM (kff5f)

624 MODERATOR: Mr. Trump- how many wives have you had?

TRUMP: I don't recall, but I know its less than Bill's mistresses. Right Hill?

Posted by: Marcus T at April 27, 2016 01:19 PM (O0lVq)

625 I can't imagine any on-the-fence primary voters thinking "I can't vote Cruz...oh, wait, Fiorina is his VP pick? Well OK then!"
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 27, 2016 01:15 PM

Well, yeah, in this particular situation.

But as a strategy overall, it totes worked in 2008 and 2012 for the winning candidate!

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 27, 2016 01:19 PM (ml1PM)

626

Trump's the Democrat Soona--and he'll manage to hang on to your state--Oklahoma.
Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:15 PM (mcm0N)

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Not very informed are you? Oklahoma went for Cruz. Now go get your shine-box.

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 01:19 PM (Fmupd)

627 591
Trump can't lead in the polls.

Trump can't win a debate.

Trump can't win a primary.

Trump can't win in Florida.

Trump can't win in PA.

Trump can't win the nomination.

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Um... pluralities, all of them, no?

Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 01:12 PM (9mTYi)
You forgot the next one.
Trump can't be a con man, liberal, democrat that suckered us.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 01:20 PM (aRUb8)

628 Angry-faced weasel taps ugly-faced shrew for VP in shrewd move to trump front-runner.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:20 PM (NUqwG)

629 United we stand. Divided we fall.

Trump '16

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 01:20 PM (WBahS)

630 Oh give me a break. You think kids from Guatemala will make the trek all the way through Mexico just to get a teddy bear?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 12:46 PM (dpnZC)

This is why you have no business trying to lead a conservative movement, or being the driving force behind its ideas.

You fall for the Left's propaganda willingly.

There are some 30 year old "minors" walking across the border and now sitting in high school classrooms.

And instead of focusing on the critical need to protect our country, you jump into the emotional trap of "omg poor kids".

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 01:20 PM (1D4Ef)

631 Thus cementing Hillary's victim status with the "unmotivated" democratic voter.

I don't think much of Trump's debate skills. He's frankly terrible at it, mostly because his idea of a debate is to steamroll someone, then force them to leave - or leave himself in a huff. This interview is over!

But last time this came up, Hillary's attack on Trump was utterly demolished by Trump bringing up her defending a serial rapist and sexual predator. I don't think its going to push anyone to Hillary except people who were going to vote for her anyway.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:20 PM (39g3+)

632 Oh, you mean that garnering 37% of the voters is 'cleaning house'.

Yes, yes... the enthusiasm is overwhelming.
Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 01:06 PM (9mTYi)
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If you wanna quibble about the general election (which is what I assume you are doing), go right ahead. But that doesn't change the fact that Cruz looks foolish.

In addition, those who discounted Trump's changes in the primary are fooling themselves if they think the polling being conducted right now for the general will hold accurate.

Posted by: wte9 at April 27, 2016 01:21 PM (xYr9U)

633 "You don't think I would actually call AAA do you? That's what you say to calm the person down while you call the cops and wait with gun in hand. You don't call AAA and get the poor AAA guy shot in the head."

Chemjeff, this is basic common sense.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 27, 2016 01:21 PM (u0lmX)

634
So..... how the hell are they winning???

**waits for an explaination that will never arrive
Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:12 PM (8XRCm)

I am fascinated by this and I'm not kidding.

The nominees for both parties appear to be individuals both of whom have enormous unfavorables. Nevertheless, those are the ones who are winning the primaries.

I don't know how to square that circle. I don't know that it can be squared. But it's intensely interesting.

I mean, people hate both of them yet one will be President, may God have mercy on our souls.

Maybe it's a turnout thing? Only those who for reasons that escape me like either of them will show up to vote? That presumes there's enough of those to offset someone, to pick a person at random, me, who will vote for nearly anyone to keep Hillary Clinton from being elected President.

It's interesting, in the Chinese curse way.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:22 PM (mf5HN)

635 628
Angry-faced weasel taps ugly-faced shrew for VP in shrewd move to trump front-runner.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:20 PM (NUqwG)

Juvenile.
Just sayin'

Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 01:22 PM (aRUb8)

636 Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:15 PM (mf5HN)

You are assuming evil intent on the part of the illegal children. I am not.

If you believe that the illegal children pose a threat to you personally, then sure, go ahead and defend yourself.

I am talking about 13-year-olds who were told a pack of lies about amnesty in the US and who were desperate enough to come here only on the faith of believing rumors and innuendo. I don't believe they come with malice in their hearts. I think they ought to be treated compassionately and decently and not to presume that they are here on some Reconquista mission.

Think of it from their point of view. If your personal situation was so desperate that you were willing to travel a thousand miles by land to a totally different country, based solely on hearing rumors about what the destination had to offer, how would you want to be treated?

And I'm sorry, kids are not cats.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:22 PM (dpnZC)

637 "While things do look pretty bleak for Cruz, adding Carly as VP is
shrewd. Assuming Hillary gets the democrat nod, a woman is needed on the
(R) side of the ticket."

I can't recall which one of the Morons said that, well, we may as well just run Stormy Daniels. Another incredibly prescient suggestion. Pron star for the win!

She probably has much higher positives than Fiascorina. And while Stormy has a whole bunch of lays in her professional history, she hasn't ever ordered any mass layoffs the way that Carly has.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 01:22 PM (noWW6)

638 619 Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:18 PM (8XRCm)
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He won majorities in turnout way down from past primaries. It may well be he didn't do any better at all, but that his voters are showing up and competitors supporters (you know, rational Americans) are dispirited...

Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 01:23 PM (LISuA)

639 Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:22 PM (mf5HN)

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Winner Winner chicken dinner.

**shoves a lemon bar thru the USB port**

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:23 PM (8XRCm)

640 Chemjeff, this is basic common sense.

Remember who you're talking to.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:23 PM (39g3+)

641 There are some 30 year old "minors" walking across the border and now sitting in high school classrooms.

What percentage of the illegal "children" population constituted those 30 years or older?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:23 PM (dpnZC)

642 All these liberal blinders are why he would get rolled in DC.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 27, 2016 01:14 PM (WIuvp)
=====Agree. Old and narrow-minded from an incredibly parochial area of the country. Not a thin dime's worth of difference between Hillary and Donnie except she has been swimming with those particular sharks for a long time and has both the electoral and experiential advantage.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 27, 2016 01:24 PM (MIKMs)

643 635 628
Angry-faced weasel taps ugly-faced shrew for VP in shrewd move to trump front-runner.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:20 PM (NUqwG)

Juvenile.
Just sayin'
Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 01:22 PM (aRUb

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Well it is something that Trump has earned.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:24 PM (mcm0N)

644 Soooo, how about that Trump sweep last night? Not too shabby

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 01:24 PM (WBahS)

645 Juvenile.
Just sayin'
Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 01:22 PM (aRUb

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Thank you for your feedback. Your opinion is highly valued. Have a blessed day.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:24 PM (NUqwG)

646 Updated.

Even though Cruz has been mathematically eliminated from 1,237, lost five primaries yesterday by staggering margins, coming third to Kasich in all but one, and will go into Cleveland with 600 fewer bound delegates than Trump, he'll then -- with the help of Romney-backed super PACs and the Sugar Tits bounce he'll get from pre-gaming Carly as his VP -- turn that around with sleight of hand to ensure that delegates picked by actual voters are instead actually committed to Cruz, so that after Rule 40 eliminates any other potential choices, and after Trump loses the first ballot, the GOP will have no choice but to pick Cruz, given that he'll have stacked the delegate pool in his favor, whereupon he'll be the nominee, and survive the onslaught that he wants to take away Social Security, let people die on hospital doorsteps, and bring back wire hanger abortions, to convince Joe the Plumber in Ohio that he's really, really for the little guy, and Jose in Florida that's he's really, really Hispanic, and then usher in a new era of Constitutionalism, whatever that means, and all will be well.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 01:24 PM (r1fLd)

647 610 Dave in Fla,

What ever happened to your Trump white ghetto theory?Seems Cruz can only win the whitey states.

Refresh my memory, what theory? Trump is doing very well with white working class. Yesterday supports that quite strongly as did his cleaning up in the south.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 27, 2016 01:24 PM (4N8Cn)

648 It's interesting, in the Chinese curse way.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:22 PM (mf5HN)
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Exactly.

Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 01:24 PM (LISuA)

649 I would vote for that ticket.

I don't want Trump as a nominee, but if he wins by the rules he wins and we suffer through it. Rule of law. If we are stupid enough to cast our votes for him we better not be evil enough to destroy the concept of the Republic.

Posted by: Dave at April 27, 2016 01:24 PM (hm8tW)

650
Trump can't lead in the polls.

Trump can't win a debate.

Trump can't win a primary.

Trump can't win in Florida.

Trump can't win in PA.

Trump can't win the nomination.

Trump can't win the general.
>>>>>>>>
Trump within 3% of Hillary.
>>>>>>>>

Imploding.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 01:24 PM (Bbsg+)

651 And instead of focusing on the critical need to protect our country, you jump into the emotional trap of "omg poor kids".

Protect our country from whom? 13-year-old children?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:25 PM (dpnZC)

652 Sorry this is OT, but Hastert given more than a year in prison for taking money out of his bank account? The statute of limitations has no meaning. Hastert was never charged or tried for sex abuse, and yet his sentence was for sex abuse. The legal system in Russia or Argentina might be more honest, how can we pretend to be a civilized society when a man can be convicted for something he legally can't be convicted of? Hastert should have fought the charges, the sex abuse stuff probably would not have been admissable. I don't know why it was admissable in this case either.

Posted by: bjk at April 27, 2016 01:25 PM (x2rNW)

653 Gotta love how Trump took it directly to Hillary and called her out on the 'woman card'

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 01:25 PM (WBahS)

654 I would be thrilled if Trump goes to the convention with 1236, misses the first ballot victory by one, and then the delegates tell Swindlin' Don to gtfo.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 27, 2016 01:25 PM (d4wsP)

655 You are assuming evil intent on the part of the illegal children. I am not.

If you believe that the illegal children pose a threat to you personally, then sure, go ahead and defend yourself.

I am talking about 13-year-olds who were told a pack of lies about amnesty in the US and who were desperate enough to come here only on the faith of believing rumors and innuendo. I don't believe they come with malice in their hearts. I think they ought to be treated compassionately and decently and not to presume that they are here on some Reconquista mission.

Think of it from their point of view. If your personal situation was so desperate that you were willing to travel a thousand miles by land to a totally different country, based solely on hearing rumors about what the destination had to offer, how would you want to be treated?

And I'm sorry, kids are not cats.

All that's missing is an earnest Sally Struthers face and slow emotional background music.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 27, 2016 01:25 PM (eytER)

656 He won majorities in turnout way down from past primaries.

Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 01:23 PM (LISuA)

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You. Fail. Too

Breibart reported earlier this week that Republican votes in teh Primaries are UP 8.7 million voters.

But... by all means.... kep telling yourselves whatever.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:25 PM (8XRCm)

657 Trump, Cruz, who really gives a shit ?

I lose one arm ... ONE DAMN ARM ... and this friggin' Mr. O'Spades you all worship ( you ain't Ace to me. Not anymore, baby ) starts whorin' around with every tramp in the news cycle.

First it's that pretty little blonde slut on Fox. Now it's this dried up old bitch.

AND YOU'RE BACK ON THE TWITTER ?!?!?! Oh fvck this. I. Am. Out.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 01:25 PM (8v0G6)

658 Kids getting here illegally are being trafficked.

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 01:25 PM (nbrY/)

659 Everyone needs to read that Resurgent article in the side-bar.

It is a tough road for Trump between now and California - except for New Jersey.

And, Fiorina helps Cruz in California. If she can take Cruz over the top in Indiana (winner take all), it is a very smart move.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 01:26 PM (so+oy)

660 This is why you have no business trying to lead a conservative movement, or being the driving force behind its ideas.

You fall for the Left's propaganda willingly.

And you fall for blowhard talk show hosts who are selling a narrative instead of thinking critically about the issue for yourself.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:26 PM (dpnZC)

661 Think of it from their point of view.

No. I will think about it from *my* point of view. They're here illegally. I'm sorry that their parents sent them here illegally, but that's pretty well the definition of "not my problem."

"Treating them humanely" does not require giving them teddy bears and soccer balls. That you cannot admit this seems... telling.

"Treating them humanely" would require making sure they were give food, water, and shelter (at a processing center) for the (short) duration of time it took to repatriate them to their country of origin.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 01:27 PM (kff5f)

662 654 won't happen. Trump could lose Indiana and still be fine.

Keep wish casting though

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 01:27 PM (WBahS)

663 NY, RI, DE, MD, CT, PA were all majorities.
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Ah. The last round.

But expecting Trump to do well in the N.E. is a bit like expecting Hillary to do well in the N.E.

While his home state may have voted for him, it wasn't exactly a barn-burner of enthusiasm. By way of example, Cruz collected more votes in Wisconsin than Trump did in New York.

Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 01:27 PM (9mTYi)

664 624 MODERATOR: Mr. Trump- how many wives have you had?

TRUMP: I don't recall, but I know its less than Bill's mistresses. Right Hill?

Posted by: Marcus T at April 27, 2016 01:19 PM (O0lVq)

That would be fucking funny.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 01:27 PM (4ErVI)

665 654 I would be thrilled if Trump goes to the convention with 1236, misses the first ballot victory by one, and then the delegates tell Swindlin' Don to gtfo.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 27, 2016 01:25 PM (d4wsP)

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Heh.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:27 PM (mcm0N)

666
All that's missing is an earnest Sally Struthers face and slow emotional background music.

That obnoxious "arms of the angel" song in the background. Slow motion shots of sad looking children.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:27 PM (39g3+)

667 I have zero tolerance for the trafficking of children.

But our government subsidizes it.

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 01:27 PM (nbrY/)

668 I am talking about 13-year-olds who were told a pack of lies about amnesty in the US and who were desperate enough to come here only on the faith of believing rumors and innuendo. I don't believe they come with malice in their hearts. I think they ought to be treated compassionately and decently and not to presume that they are here on some Reconquista mission.

Think of it from their point of view. If your personal situation was so desperate that you were willing to travel a thousand miles by land to a totally different country, based solely on hearing rumors about what the destination had to offer, how would you want to be treated?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:22 PM (dpnZC)

Do you really think that 13 year olds are just deciding on their own to walk through Mexico to get into America ... and that their parents and their country and Mexico are all unaware of this?

LOL. Do you have any idea how dumb someone appears if they believe that?? "Retarded" doesn't even begin to describe it, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume malice.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 27, 2016 01:27 PM (zc3Db)

669 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 01:26 PM (so+oy)

How does Fiorina help Cruz in CA? She is not well liked there.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 27, 2016 01:28 PM (Zu3d9)

670 "And, Fiorina helps Cruz in California."

I do not understand those words in that order.

Carly lost to Babs Boxer. Senator Ma'am. Dumbest individual in the Senate.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 01:28 PM (noWW6)

671 so one half praised Snowden the other sold computer infrastructure stuff to Iran. Great fucking job GOP

Posted by: the dude at April 27, 2016 01:28 PM (SyKbw)

672
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 01:27 PM (kff5f)
No one said soccer balls or teddy bears were required. But they aren't harmful either.
At least you would give the illegal kids food and shelter, which is more than I can say for some around here.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:28 PM (dpnZC)

673 The Republican Party is the Cleveland Browns of politics.

Dood, you'd have been better off liableing the ewok, at least your corpse would be in one piece.

Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2016 01:29 PM (DL2i+)

674 Oh ... I can take Ted "over the top" *wink* in Indiana, on the tour bus, in the hotel room, and wherever else he wants to go. Bet your ass on that one.

Posted by: Carley Fiorina at April 27, 2016 01:29 PM (8v0G6)

675 Reason why Trump's negatives are so high? The polls have to 7-Eleven people that know who Kasich is.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at April 27, 2016 01:29 PM (B+Arn)

676 No. I will think about it from *my* point of view.

What happened to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:29 PM (dpnZC)

677 And, Fiorina helps Cruz in California. If she can take Cruz over the top in Indiana (winner take all), it is a very smart move.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 01:26 PM (so+oy)

The California thing I think not so much. Our own Torque, who resides there, and others I've heard from that state say Fiorina is poison there due to the HP debacle. I figure since they live there, they've got a better idea of it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 01:30 PM (4ErVI)

678 WMUMR - all the shits, all the time!

Posted by: AoS Guest DJ at April 27, 2016 01:30 PM (Dwehj)

679 Carly as VP!

So do we want America to implode like Lucent or merely peter out like HP?

Either way, we'll get first-rate gender-specific blame-casting. Great pick, Cruz! Yet another example of why I pulled the lever for Trump yesterday, AND made sure I did the best I could to pick pro-Trump delegates.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack What Dispenses Internet Justice at April 27, 2016 01:30 PM (F6RKd)

680 How does Fiorina help Cruz in CA? She is not well liked there.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 27, 2016 01:28 PM (Zu3d9)
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She did win a state-wide Republican primary.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:30 PM (NUqwG)

681 At least you would give the illegal kids food and shelter, which is more than I can say for some around here.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:28 PM (dpnZC)

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Oh FFS Strawman.

Please copy and past the quote from whoever said we should starve the kids and make them sleep ooutside.

**Waits for another answer that will never come.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:30 PM (8XRCm)

682 Cruz never had any hope in CA because while there are still a few people here who will vote for a Republican, there are a very significant subgroup of that bloc who are strongly secularist in outlook and who won't vote for a socon Republican.

And Cruz has now ineradicably identified himself as Churchy McChurchface with those voters. Game over.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 01:31 PM (noWW6)

683 13 year old criminals grow up.

Posted by: freaked at April 27, 2016 01:31 PM (iqxds)

684
Oh FFS Strawman.

Please copy and past the quote from whoever said we should starve the kids and make them sleep ooutside.

A certain commenter has claimed, previously, that he would shoot illegals at the border.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:31 PM (dpnZC)

685 There's something about politics, and especially this presidential race, that makes us all too often keep digging that hole we're in, more furiously every new development and argument.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:31 PM (39g3+)

686 Everyone needs to read that Resurgent article in the side-bar.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 01:26 PM (so+oy)

Before you read it, read the disclaimer in italics at the bottom.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 01:31 PM (xuouz)

687 Keep drinking' "Sippin_bourbon".
I consider you a brain dead jingo with no grasp of reality. The NE ain't what you think. Live free or die.

Posted by: jacke at April 27, 2016 01:32 PM (fHvnG)

688 First she was a guest on the Ace of Spades podcast. She probably thought it could get no better than that.

heh. I forgot about this.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 01:32 PM (qCMvj)

689 Am I the sole guilty conscience, the sole voice of pacifist reason around here?

Posted by: chemtrail at April 27, 2016 01:32 PM (Dwehj)

690 "Treating them humanely" would require making sure they were give food, water, and shelter (at a processing center) for the (short) duration of time it took to repatriate them to their country of origin.

Bottle of water, cheese sammich, and a seat on a bus. Bus is leaving in 30 minutes.

And before anyone says "that's cruel!", the water and sammich is what convicts got fed during lockdowns that would go on for weeks during or after riots.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 01:33 PM (Jcvz2)

691 It's not heartless, it's reality.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 12:55 PM (mf5HN)

Back in my college days (I'm close to Alex's age so get ready to get off my lawn), I hit a deer in the middle of the night. Walked over to a nearby house. Owner just cracked the door and called the sheriff for me. Didn't feel offended because it was me and a friend.

Chemjeff, yes, we need to be humane. But the humane thing to do is immediately ship them back. No asylum hearings, nothing. You get asylum hearings in your country or someplace nearby. What you are seeing though is people are rightly feeling taken advantage of. That doesn't end well.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at April 27, 2016 01:33 PM (n2GmV)

692
While his home state may have voted for him, it wasn't exactly a barn-burner of enthusiasm. By way of example, Cruz collected more votes in Wisconsin than Trump did in New York.
Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 01:27 PM (9mTYi)

And yet, still couldn't get a majority in TX... How about that?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack What Dispenses Internet Justice at April 27, 2016 01:33 PM (F6RKd)

693 Reported shooting at Ohio State, multiple vics, campus locked down.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 27, 2016 01:33 PM (BOYu0)

694 Am I the sole guilty conscience, the sole voice of pacifist reason around here?

----

Yes..

Now pat your better self on the back.

You win.

Feel better??

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:33 PM (8XRCm)

695 But expecting Trump to do well in the N.E. is a bit like expecting Hillary to do well in the N.E.

Perhaps, but this development surprised me.

Make no mistake, I'm an N.E. snob. I've lived all my life in the Northeast and Europe, I don't know whether Al Bundy was the murderer or the TV show guy, I've never even been to a Chik-fil-A. I would have pleasant dinner conversation with Pauline Kael.

I assumed that Trump was supposed to appeal to rubes and bumpkins in that part of the country which is Bathing Optional.

Surely, the sophisticates of the Acela Corridor would reject this boorish buffoon?

But no, he takes MA, NY, CT, RI, PA, and surely will take NJ.

I don't think he has "natural appeal" in the Northeast, but the facts seem to bely my prejudice.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 01:33 PM (1xUj/)

696 Churchy McChurchface.

******

LOL!

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:33 PM (mcm0N)

697 What happened to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?

How are the illegals following the Golden Rule in your formulation?

Doing unto others is a two way street.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 27, 2016 01:34 PM (eytER)

698 Cruz is a really smart guy, second smartest in the race after Carson, but he chose his allies poorly.
Glenn Beck turned him from bad boy of the Senate, legit rebel to preachy macpreacher.

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 01:34 PM (nbrY/)

699 Try to imagine what a true-believer socialist would look like if they committed to a 5-year undercover role as a concern-trolling liberal republican on this blog.

Whodunit?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (xuouz)

700 Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:30 PM (NUqwG)

She was the best funded....by far. And she ran against a perpetual loser.

Not too tough.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (Zu3d9)

701 And yet, still couldn't get a majority in TX... How about that?

To be fair, in a rough 5 man race, getting a majority is a bit tough. That's the same thing as crowing that Trump only got a plurality in a bunch of states. Yeah, against 10 other dudes. I mean, seriously, its like math is new to people.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (39g3+)

702 The Trump's foreign policy speech is a really good evisceration of the Obama/Clinton record.

Posted by: Bandersnatch

He thrashed her soundly in his responses to the media questions.

My prediction: We ain't seen nothing yet.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 12:54 PM (Bbsg+)

crap, missed it

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (qCMvj)

703 I've gotta believe that having Crazy Glenn Beck on the stump for Cruz quickly turned into a net negative.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (4ErVI)

704 I am not a vaginal voter. I don't think this helps.

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (zOTsN)

705 Carly lost to Babs Boxer. Senator Ma'am. Dumbest individual in the Senate.
..........
Of course she did.. it's a blue state. She would not help Cruz in the general.. but she might help him with GOP primary voters.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (so+oy)

706 f water, cheese sammich, and a seat on a bus. Bus is leaving in 30 minutes.

And before anyone says "that's cruel!", the water and sammich is what convicts got fed during lockdowns that would go on for weeks during or after riots.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 01:33 PM (Jcvz2)

Hell, give 'em NY original Pizza, a turducken, and a Snuggie for all I care - on the trip back.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack What Dispenses Internet Justice at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (F6RKd)

707 She was the best funded....by far. And she ran against a perpetual loser.

Not too tough.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (Zu3d9)
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Well sure, it was the Republican primary.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (NUqwG)

708 "And, Fiorina helps Cruz in California."

I do not understand those words in that order.

Carly lost to Babs Boxer. Senator Ma'am. Dumbest individual in the Senate.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 01:28 PM (noWW6)

I'm not saying I agree with it, but the logic there is that the CA primary is for registered Republicans, a group where Fiorina is probably well-regarded, while she lost the general election because of the overwhelming Democrat registration advantage.

Posted by: HTL at April 27, 2016 01:36 PM (gVyJ+)

709 "For the 187,176th time....primary results and general election results have virtually nothing to do with each other."

Yep. Love the new narrative that Trump has more votes in the Republican Primary than Romney or McCain, therefore he will do better in the general. Extended primary race has nothing to do with that I'm sure.

Posted by: Steven S. at April 27, 2016 01:36 PM (JpEvT)

710 Cruz in the senate is still great. Be the conscience.

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 01:36 PM (zOTsN)

711 The Sarah Palining of Carly Fiorina as the biggest idiot on earth by the MSM begins in 5, 4, 3, 2...

Posted by: CrustyB at April 27, 2016 01:36 PM (GvSpB)

712
That obnoxious "arms of the angel" song

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:27 PM (39g3+)
__________________________

That was hurtful....

~sniff-sniff~

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 01:36 PM (HSmrB)

713 I would have pleasant dinner conversation with Pauline Kael.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 01:33 PM (1xUj/)

Bullshit.

She is not just isolated in her tiny little UWS world, she is stupid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 27, 2016 01:37 PM (Zu3d9)

714 Love the new narrative that Trump has more votes in the Republican Primary than Romney or McCain, therefore he will do better in the general.

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Wiat.... just a second.... I thought you guys were claiming R turnout was DOWN ????

Pick a narrative and stick to it please.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:37 PM (8XRCm)

715 All that's missing is an earnest Sally Struthers face and slow emotional background music.

That obnoxious "arms of the angel" song in the background. Slow motion shots of sad looking children.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:27 PM (39g3

------------

These poor hungry chillren have to eat their own boogers just to stay alive

Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 01:37 PM (Fmupd)

716 Glenn Beck turned him from bad boy of the Senate, legit rebel to preachy macpreacher.

That was his strategy from the beginning, to reach out to people who Romney allegedly lost in his election, thus solidifying the Republican base. 15 years ago, 20 years ago, probably a winner. Today? Probably turns off as many Christophobes as it does wins evangelical votes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:37 PM (39g3+)

717 Sometimes the number of primary votes indicate voter enthusiasm and may be predictive of GOTV. Sometimes

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 01:37 PM (zOTsN)

718 Seems a bit early to be announcing a running mate, but I guess he's getting desperate. Whatever. I am proud to have voted for him yesterday. Go Cruz!

I am praying otherwise, but it seems likely at this point that Trump will clinch the nomination. Although Levin made the point that Rassmussen said that last night's wins were already built into his delegate projections and don't necessarily make him more likely you win on the first ballot.

Still not gonna vote for Donnie.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 01:38 PM (6bMel)

719 Carly has next to nil when it comes to get out the vote--in California--infrastructure. Dead Reagan still has more.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:38 PM (mcm0N)

720 Think of it from their point of view. If your personal situation was so desperate that you were willing to travel a thousand miles by land to a totally different country, based solely on hearing rumors about what the destination had to offer, how would you want to be treated?

And I'm sorry, kids are not cats.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:22 PM (dpnZC)

I know for a fact that you know what analogies are. That you are doing the wide eyed OMFG KIDS AREN'T CATS thing is pathetic.

You don't even have an argument here. It's nothing but sheer and utter appeals to emotion.

You are refusing to address the point that your position leads directly and explicitly to those 13 year olds being subjected to all kinds of human trafficking, including sex trafficking, on their way here. You don't think those coyotes are treating them with kid gloves, do you?

Let's not even mention that for all your wailing about compassion, you are just fine with a gun being placed to my temple to pay for their care.

You are also point blank refusing to address the repeated factually true statements made by many here that those "kids" are anything but kids.

I'm sorry, but for the children isn't an argument. It's an anti-intellectual attempt at emotional manipulation that I have long found to be a hallmark that the person making such a statement has no coherent argumentation to make for their position.

But but but Golden Rule is irrelevant when we are talking official government positions and actions. Treating those who arrive here illegally with care and compassion and indices that they are welcome here has a blatantly obvious outcome that those who are treated in such a manner are, in fact, welcome which leads to more people coming here.

This is basic stuff.

You can flail away that you're being the compassionate one. I'm going to continue to sit here and note that the practical effect of your position is to lead to children being made victims of sex trafficking.

But, hey, compassion, right?

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:38 PM (mf5HN)

721 I've gotta believe that having Crazy Glenn Beck on the stump for Cruz quickly turned into a net negative.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (4ErVI)

So you're saying Beck preaching that Cruz is God's Chosen One is a negative?

Posted by: the dude at April 27, 2016 01:38 PM (SyKbw)

722
To be fair, in a rough 5 man race, getting a majority is a bit tough. That's the same thing as crowing that Trump only got a plurality in a bunch of states. Yeah, against 10 other dudes. I mean, seriously, its like math is new to people.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (39g3+)
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To be fair it is his home and one of the most extreme (except perhaps on illegal immigration) Republican parties in the country.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:38 PM (NUqwG)

723 The media will not slime Carley anymore. They will use her to slime Trump. Here's hoping she slimed Hillary

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 01:39 PM (zOTsN)

724 But no, he takes MA, NY, CT, RI, PA, and surely will take NJ.
I don't think he has "natural appeal" in the Northeast, but the facts seem to bely my prejudice.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 01:33 PM (1xUj/)

Here, let me let Leon "Snapping Turtle" Wolf explain it to you:
Today, voters from an area of the country that has no thought or hope of giving Republicans any electoral votes in November will go to the polls. They come from an area that has for years enacted failed economic policies that have caused the region to systematically hemorrhage both population and jobs to other areas of the country - areas like Texas. They come from an area of the country where loudmouthed liberalism is the order of the day.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 01:39 PM (xuouz)

725 So do we want America to implode like Lucent or merely peter out like HP?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack What Dispenses Internet Justice at April 27, 2016 01:30 PM (F6RKd)

We want it to scam people out of their hard-earned money and then get sued for fraud months before the election like Trump University.

Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 27, 2016 01:39 PM (ztrrs)

726 ... Babs Boxer. Senator Ma'am. Dumbest individual in the Senate.

A contest that, unlike her elections in Kali, is not a sure thing.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at April 27, 2016 01:40 PM (ml1PM)

727 Well sure, it was the Republican primary.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:35 PM (NUqwG)

Tom Campbell is even worse than the typical Republican loser in CA. I think this was his third shot at the senate.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 27, 2016 01:40 PM (Zu3d9)

728 Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 01:12 PM (9mTYi)

Forgot "Trump is a spoiler sent by Hilary to split the GOP ticket 3 ways!"

Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 01:40 PM (3ZtZW)

729 Gotta love NeverTrumpers, such as Ace who complains about lack of policy from Trump yet posts an irrelevant detail about the Cruz campaign while ignoring Trump foreign policy speech. Great work!

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 01:40 PM (WBahS)

730 What happened to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:29 PM (dpnZC)

Soon as I crossed the Mexican border I'd be thrown in jail and forgotten, or immediately deported.

So let's do the same.

Posted by: Blano at April 27, 2016 01:40 PM (uiVGU)

731 Kids

14 and 15 year old Central American gang bangers are running drugs and committing murders.

Send them back, before they commit the murders

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 01:41 PM (zOTsN)

732 No one said soccer balls or teddy bears were required. But they aren't harmful either.

Yeah, they are, when one is running for President on the platform of Border Security.

Cruz went to "soften his image" (primarily with Hispanics) and it undermined his message. It was a dumb move. He didn't need to do it; he shouldn't have done it.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 01:41 PM (kff5f)

733 You don't think those coyotes are treating them with kid gloves, do you?

Yeah. I shudder to think what those girls go through on the way to America. There are so many stories of how women are raped at a huge percentage just getting across the border, without little girls and teenagers being involved.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:41 PM (39g3+)

734 Republicans have gotten used to being a marginalized minority with little to no input on day-to-day realities of the American people and they're comfortable with it. In fact their very unpopularity is considered proof that they're right, since the rubes not "getting" them means they're smart.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 01:42 PM (xuouz)

735 Wait... A guy with no chance to win the nomination is naming a VP candidate?

All this does is confirm that Carly will not be Trump's VP.

Posted by: Rory at April 27, 2016 01:42 PM (GoNER)

736 Posted by: Testy Stoic Trumpublican at April 27, 2016 01:38 PM (AhiRu)

Which Western Civilization? Trump seems far more tax and spend than the Washington/Madison/Coolidge/Reagan lineage that made America great.

Actually, he seems more Banana Republic strongman than anything to me, but without the pile of bodies along the way.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 27, 2016 01:42 PM (BOYu0)

737 I don't know how to square that circle. I don't know that it can be squared. But it's intensely interesting.

===

Maybe a kind of Bradley Effect.

Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 01:42 PM (3ZtZW)

738 I'm just trying to make the world a better place, one Fapplebee's Mud Slide at a time. Sigh.

Posted by: chemtrail at April 27, 2016 01:42 PM (Dwehj)

739 I see Moo's back to trolling.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 27, 2016 01:43 PM (Wckf4)

740 I'm not saying I agree with it, but the logic there is that the CA primary is for registered Republicans, a group where Fiorina is probably well-regarded, while she lost the general election because of the overwhelming Democrat registration advantage.
Posted by: HTL at April 27, 2016 01:36 PM (gVyJ+)

So, usually, VP picks are chosen to bolster a national ticket. Here, it's being used to bolster a party ticket. Cruz seems to be moving backwards...

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack What Dispenses Internet Justice at April 27, 2016 01:43 PM (F6RKd)

741 Slavery is alive and well as girls are run across the border to be prostitutes.

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 01:43 PM (zOTsN)

742 Soon as I crossed the Mexican border I'd be thrown in jail and forgotten, or immediately deported.

So let's do the same.
Posted by: Blano

Let's talk about the "compassion" you'd be shown.
Let's go all "Golden Rule".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 01:44 PM (Jcvz2)

743 All this does is confirm that Carly will not be Trump's VP.
Posted by: Rory at April 27, 2016 01:42 PM (GoNER)
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Can't Trump select her as well?

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:44 PM (NUqwG)

744 I don't think he has "natural appeal" in the Northeast, but the facts seem to bely my prejudice.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 01:33 PM (1xUj/)

I would say you're pretty and smart but now I'm distracted by really really wanting a Hate Shake.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:44 PM (mf5HN)

745 Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 27, 2016 01:39 PM (ztrrs)

Sup brah! You seem level-headed! Let's hear your analysis!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 01:44 PM (xuouz)

746 She is not just isolated in her tiny little UWS world, she is stupid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 27, 2016 01:37 PM (Zu3d9)

Kael certainly is isolated - in her coffin 6 ft. under or in an urn on a relative's coffee table, since she died in 2001.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 27, 2016 01:44 PM (u0lmX)

747 I always said I would love a Cruz/Fiorina ticket, but not if he is in a distant second with delegates. I don't see how this helps Cruz at all this late. Maybe in Indiana definitely not much in CA. At least Cruz dumped that worthless loser Kasich.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 27, 2016 01:44 PM (2x3L+)

748 To be fair it is his home and one of the most extreme (except perhaps on illegal immigration) Republican parties in the country.

Describing Texas as "extreme Republican" pretty much says all that has to be about you, sir.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:45 PM (39g3+)

749 Breaking news: Dead body with head wounds found in conference room at Apple HQ in Cupertino. Need to call Monk and Columbo in.

Bad earnings report yesterday. Coincidence?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 01:45 PM (Nwg0u)

750 What happened to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?

I am. I don't immigrate illegally to their countries, either, and when I'm in violation of the law, I readily accept the punishment as defined by law.

Next?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at April 27, 2016 01:45 PM (kff5f)

751 Houston just might be the US capital for human trafficking. It's these girls

Shut the border, save a girl

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 01:46 PM (zOTsN)

752 All of you whining that Trump will get blown out in the general, Presidents McCain and Romney would like to have a word with you about "electability"

Posted by: Tradd at April 27, 2016 01:46 PM (GSJcT)

753 Why would Carly Fiorina even agree to be a candidate for VP at this stage of the primary?

Posted by: mrp at April 27, 2016 01:46 PM (JBggj)

754 735 Wait... A guy with no chance to win the nomination is naming a VP candidate?

All this does is confirm that Carly will not be Trump's VP.
Posted by: Rory at April 27, 2016 01:42 PM (GoNER)

*******

Ya, I think Chris Christie and Sarah Palin are going to mud wrestle for that. Sad!

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:46 PM (mcm0N)

755 I'm a Cruzer, but this week Cruz is just coming off as desperate.

Everything designed to be a negative towards Trump just seems to backfire.

Maybe he'll have that same luck in the general.

Posted by: Blano at April 27, 2016 01:46 PM (sdPF/)

756 But... by all means.... kep telling yourselves whatever.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 27, 2016 01:25 PM (8XRCm)
----------------------------
Question for you: do you have your ATM password written on the back of your card? You probably should do that. And let me keep it for you so it's ready when you need it.

Turnout was down (like half of) in Ct, NY, Md, De and Pa from past primaries this cycle.

So, I guess you. fail.

or something.

Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 01:47 PM (LISuA)

757 Wait... A guy with no chance to win the nomination is naming a VP candidate?

Forget it, they're rolling.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 01:47 PM (xuouz)

758 @117 - that's not really a high bar to clear.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at April 27, 2016 01:47 PM (Ssh+t)

759 Slavery is alive and well as girls are run across the border to be prostitutes.

Yeah, flown into the country to be "masseuses" as well.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:47 PM (39g3+)

760 >>At least Cruz dumped that worthless loser Kasich.

Hey, did I mention that I'm friends with people on the GOPe convention rules committee?

Posted by: John Kasich at April 27, 2016 01:47 PM (c7vUv)

761 Trump will counter by announcing he is picking his ego as his running mate.

LOL,
you may have that backwards, or have missed the opportunity for a hair joke.

Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2016 01:47 PM (DL2i+)

762 I just can't stand Hillary, I would rather elected broken glass to be president of my eye sockets.

So that makes it easy for me.

Posted by: Max Power at April 27, 2016 01:48 PM (q177U)

763 Carly lost to Babs Boxer. Senator Ma'am. Dumbest individual in the Senate.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 01:28 PM

I'm suddenly picturing the DemonSheep (TM) ad with Hillary!'s face on it. Thanks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 27, 2016 01:48 PM (bzd8I)

764 Cruz won't be the nominee next time anymore than Santorum or Gingrich were, most of his votes are purely in the form of NotTrump!

I really don't think policy had anything to do with Cruz losing, most people could tell a mile away the guy simply could never be President.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 01:48 PM (sDOgQ)

765 Turnout was down (like half of) in Ct, NY, Md, De and Pa from past primaries this cycle.

So, I guess you. fail.

or something.
Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 01:47 PM (LISuA)
That was not my observation.
http://6abc.com/politics/voter-turnout-appears-heavier-than-usual-in-pa/1309608/

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack What Dispenses Internet Justice at April 27, 2016 01:49 PM (F6RKd)

766 The only thing good I can see so far from a Trump presidency is that a bunch of people a genuinely dislike plan to leave the country. Sure, they're lying, but it's entertaining.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 27, 2016 01:49 PM (Wckf4)

767 If Texas Republicans are extreme, I don't wanna be mainstream.

To hell with most of the rest of the country.

Posted by: Blano at April 27, 2016 01:49 PM (NHQQx)

768 755 I'm a Cruzer, but this week Cruz is just coming off as desperate.

Everything designed to be a negative towards Trump just seems to backfire.

Maybe he'll have that same luck in the general.
Posted by: Blano at April 27, 2016 01:46 PM (sdPF/)

******

Cruz has made so many strategic errors---one of them being that he continually allows Trump to dictate the field of battle.

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:50 PM (mcm0N)

769 @749 holy moly Inthought you were kidding

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 01:50 PM (nbrY/)

770 Trump will counter by announcing he is picking his ego as his running mate.

LOL,
you may have that backwards, or have missed the opportunity for a hair joke.

Trump Brackets!

Ego
-- Ego
Bluster

--- ?

Spray tan

-- Hair

Hair

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 01:50 PM (1xUj/)

771 f course a major reason to name Carly is just to get the conversation away from 'Trump sweeps 5 states delegates'

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 27, 2016 01:18 PM (h/uSM)

It worked.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 27, 2016 01:50 PM (T78UI)

772 There's room for us all under the collapsing American tent of decadence!

Posted by: chemtrail at April 27, 2016 01:50 PM (Dwehj)

773 Describing Texas as "extreme Republican" pretty much says all that has to be about you, sir.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:45 PM (39g3+)

I am not that old and I remember when Texas was the home of LBJ and Ann Richards.

History began before 2008, after all.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:50 PM (mf5HN)

774

Sidebar update. This is what Steven Crowder was facing when he addressed students at UMass Amherst. My what an outstanding special snowflake this is. I've seen barnyard animals with better manners. In case you missed Crowder's response here it is.[Mis. Hum.]

It's like every mental hospital has opened their doors and let them all out. Gave me the creeps watching this.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 01:50 PM (qCMvj)

775 Guy who isn't getting enough votes announces his running mate is a woman who got even fewer votes than him!

Game changer, I'm sure.

Posted by: tsj017 at April 27, 2016 01:50 PM (4YUWF)

776 If I would say that the Cruz statement at this point is of no real interest or consequence, would that be construed as hatin' on Cruz? Because it isn't.
Maybe the time is here when we can go back to just being objective.

Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 01:51 PM (zuTLp)

777 753 Why would Carly Fiorina even agree to be a candidate for VP at this stage of the primary?

Posted by: mrp at April 27, 2016 01:46 PM (JBggj)

I was just thinking the same thing. Only thing I can come up with is more recognition for a future run for another office.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 01:51 PM (4ErVI)

778 Well that formatting didn't work.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 01:51 PM (1xUj/)

779 >>Protect our country from whom? 13-year-old children?

First, you understand that Obama has encouraged parents in Central and South American countries to send their children precisely so that that argument can be made, right? Like lil' Trojan horses for amnesty/open borders.

Many of these kids are MS13 gangbangers.

Many of these kids are being subjected to all sorts of horrors thanks so Obama encouraging this - most of the girls are raped (by their cartel or coyote escorts), exposed to all sorts of diseases at the border stations, and then overwhelmed when they are placed in schools not knowing the language, culture (some have not even used modern plumbing).

And then --- and you never hear about this part in the news --- the Obama administration let's them be anchors a to justify the rest of their family being flown here by DHS.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 01:51 PM (NOIQH)

780 Apparently, the announcement at 4 will be that Ace has posted a New Thread.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2016 01:51 PM (etV2e)

781 Why would Carly Fiorina even agree to be a candidate for VP at this stage of the primary?

Posted by: mrp at April 27, 2016 01:46 PM (JBggj)

2016 was her last chance at anything in the political world so this will be her final loss in a long career of losing

Posted by: the dude at April 27, 2016 01:51 PM (SyKbw)

782 yes yes, congrats trumpbots on aligning with candidate butt-hair that the dimocrats and Slick Willie are inflicting on us. Enjoy that sure Trump victory in Nov. Just keep believing! It's all gonna turn out yuugely awesome! Just wait, we unbelievers will see!

Posted by: doc at April 27, 2016 01:51 PM (u1SjL)

783 Dead body with head wounds found in conference room at Apple HQ in Cupertino.

Possibly related: what did they do to anger the Chinese so much? Was that the real deal behind the FBI demand to crack Apple, so China could make better Iphone knockoffs?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 01:52 PM (39g3+)

784 "Maybe he'll have that same luck in the general."

Sure.

I'm sure there will be no pressure to open those tax returns. There will be no fraud trial. There will be no oppo dump.

GOP primary does not equal general election or Romney would be president.

Posted by: Harun at April 27, 2016 01:52 PM (UBBWX)

785 I am not that old and I remember when Texas was the home of LBJ and Ann Richards.

History began before 2008, after all.
Posted by: alexthechick

We repo'd Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 01:52 PM (Jcvz2)

786 A female and it sounds like she may have shot herself.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 01:52 PM (iQIUe)

787 Some sort of team up could have likely derailed Trump early on, but the egos of all of these men was never going to allow themselves to take a VP spot.

Some sort of Cruz/Rubio ticket would have beat Trump and we'd probably be cruising against Hillary.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 01:53 PM (sDOgQ)

788 Apparently, the announcement at 4 will be that Ace has posted a New Thread.
Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2016 01:51 PM (etV2e)

We don't get nice things.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:53 PM (mf5HN)

789 Trump isn't going to beat Hillary.
Wish I was wrong, but evidence shows otherwise.
I would gladly take a buffoon over a tyrant.

Posted by: N.W.A. - Hot Fuzz at April 27, 2016 01:53 PM (m3iiU)

790 "2016 was her last chance at anything in the political world so this will be her final loss in a long career of losing"

Same with Trump's VP picks.

Palin, Christie - they are all at the end of their natural careers and looking for a final coattails swan song.

Posted by: Harun at April 27, 2016 01:53 PM (UBBWX)

791 740
So, usually, VP picks are chosen to bolster a national ticket. Here, it's being used to bolster a party ticket. Cruz seems to be moving backwards...
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack What Dispenses Internet Justice at April 27, 2016 01:43 PM (F6RKd)
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Well, she undoubtedly would have been his pick for the general to counter Historic-First Hag anyway. Might as well confirm the choice when it might help with delegates in California.

I guess that's the thinking.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 01:53 PM (T/5A0)

792 Apparently, the announcement at 4 will be that Ace has posted a New Thread.
Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2016 01:51 PM (etV2e)

We don't get nice things.
Posted by: alexthechick

It'll be a used thread.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 01:53 PM (Jcvz2)

793 780 Apparently, the announcement at 4 will be that Ace has posted a New Thread.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2016 01:51 PM (etV2e)

And that Chris Christie is now a coblogger.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 01:53 PM (4ErVI)

794 ...dimocrats and Slick Willie are inflicting on us...
Posted by: doc at April 27, 2016 01:51 PM (u1SjL)

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Dammit. That's why they keep winning!

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:54 PM (NUqwG)

795 >>Philosophically, Donald Trump is suddenly EXCEEDING the expectations of genuine Conservatives.

By reading a canned speech off a teleprompter.

Bang up job.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2016 01:54 PM (etV2e)

796 You've been... living in a dreamworld, Neocon.

This is the world as it exists... today.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 01:54 PM (xuouz)

797
GOP primary does not equal general election or Romney would be president.
Posted by: Harun

Romney knew how to lose like a gentleman.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 01:54 PM (k4M/B)

798 777 753 Why would Carly Fiorina even agree to be a candidate for VP at this stage of the primary?

--

Paid off her campaign debt, iirc

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 01:54 PM (nbrY/)

799 I would gladly take a buffoon over a tyrant.

Why settle when you can have both?

Posted by: DocJ at April 27, 2016 01:54 PM (5Nr9V)

800 Palin, Christie - they are all at the end of their natural careers and looking for a final coattails swan song.

Posted by: Harun at April 27, 2016 01:53 PM (UBBWX)

pretty much though Palin has actually won a political election (hell, more than one) unlike Carly O'Donnell

Posted by: the dude at April 27, 2016 01:55 PM (SyKbw)

801 I am not that old and I remember when Texas was the home of LBJ and Ann Richards.

History began before 2008, after all.
Posted by: alexthechick

The electorate is far more fluid than people think.

The conventional wisdom in 2000 was Tennessee was a safe state for Al Gore. Now that state goes Republican by like 20 points in Presidential years.

Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 01:55 PM (sDOgQ)

802 "We don't get nice things."

Call us.

Posted by: Every Democratic platform, ever at April 27, 2016 01:55 PM (ptqRm)

803 posted by Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage

Trumptards

Trumptard infestation

All Trumptards

Yeah explain to me again how those Trump supporters are so nasty.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 01:55 PM (Bbsg+)

804 If Trump gets 1237 delegates he's the nominee.

Those are the rules.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 01:55 PM (xuouz)

805 753 Why would Carly Fiorina even agree to be a candidate for VP at this stage of the primary?
Posted by: mrp at April 27, 2016 01:46 PM (JBggj)

Because she is a power-hungry apparatchik that can't get hired in corporate America anymore.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack What Dispenses Internet Justice at April 27, 2016 01:55 PM (F6RKd)

806 We don't get nice things.

Posted by: alexthechick

Pfft. *We* don't get nice things.

You have nice things that preceed you into a room.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 01:56 PM (1xUj/)

807 It'll be a used thread.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 01:53 PM (Jcvz2)

You want Kaboom thread.

You'll take imitation of Dennis Miller being raped by a Kodiak bear thread.

You'll get Here's a story about Trump, I hate all of you, collectively and individually thread.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:56 PM (mf5HN)

808 One big loser + an even bigger loser = Sure fire winner!

Ted Cruz for the WIN!

Posted by: Ted Cruz's Brain at April 27, 2016 01:56 PM (M0YXY)

809 I'm using iPhone outside.
This morning I saw something ar American Spectator to give us grief. Trump totals in 4 of 5 states that voted last night were less than Bernie's votes. Go over & look.

I'm trying to chop up dead climber. If one had to die, I'm glad it was that one. It was first to get diseased every year.

Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2016 01:56 PM (sj3Ax)

810 "Some sort of Cruz/Rubio ticket would have beat Trump and we'd probably be cruising against Hillary."

Too many candidates. Who then bought into that "lane" theory. Too much free TV for Trump. (I admit, he's fascinating - doesn't mean he's good presidential material.)

Everyone assumed Trump would fade, too.

But I think the #1 reason: GOP congress caved in too many times to show "they could govern."

The last guy standing against Trump just happens to be the one guy to oppose that.

GOPe will conveniently forget this lesson after Trump loses, and we'll be back to a rump opposition party.

Or Trump wins.

Posted by: Harun at April 27, 2016 01:56 PM (UBBWX)

811 Saw this on a tweet

Trump: No American citizen will ever again feel that their needs come second to the needs of a citizen of a foreign country

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 01:56 PM (nbrY/)

812
Why would Carly Fiorina even agree to be a candidate for VP at this stage of the primary?
Posted by: mrp

Cruz administration will use HP servers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 01:56 PM (k4M/B)

813 Chris Christie will post from the next Bruuuce concert--

"Watch me whip it, watch me nae nae!"

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:57 PM (mcm0N)

814 Cruz won't be the nominee next time anymore than Santorum or Gingrich were, most of his votes are purely in the form of NotTrump!

--

Direct line to The Amazing Kreskin? I don't see much evidence that Cruz voters mostly supported him simply because #nevertrump.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at April 27, 2016 01:57 PM (+FSld)

815 Why would Carly Fiorina even agree to be a candidate for VP at this stage of the primary?
Posted by: mrp at April 27, 2016 01:46 PM (JBggj)

She's already on stage with him and is stumping for him.

It doesn't change much for her.

/shrug

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 01:57 PM (qCMvj)

816 I re Trumps speech

I really liked the themes in it. American first, nationalism, explicit rejection of knee jerk globalism, exercise of sovereignty, change NATO mission, a whole new foreign policy

I liked that. Sue me

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 01:57 PM (zOTsN)

817 If Trump gets 1237 delegates he's the nominee.

Those are the rules.

We will alter the agreement. Pray we do not alter it further

Posted by: Dark GOPe at April 27, 2016 01:57 PM (39g3+)

818 This morning I saw something at American Spectator to give us grief. Trump totals in 4 of 5 states that voted last night were less than Bernie's votes. Go over & look.
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Trump/Sanders !

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:57 PM (NUqwG)

819 Gotta love NeverTrumpers, such as Ace who complains
about lack of policy from Trump yet posts an irrelevant detail about the
Cruz campaign while ignoring Trump foreign policy speech. Great work.
Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 01:40 PM (WBahS)

Trump's "foreign policy speech" was just another pile of shit, the same meaningless platitudes he always spews from his ignorant cakehole. There's nothing there worth paying attention to.

Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 27, 2016 01:57 PM (ztrrs)

820 >>>Apparently, the announcement at 4 will be that Ace has posted a New Thread.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2016 01:51 PM (etV2e)
<<<

If you don't know what the announcement is, then... maybe your best course would be to thread lightly.

Posted by: Walter White at April 27, 2016 01:57 PM (H9MG5)

821 I must run off to see if the ghost of Papa Kasich has delivered my UNICEF kit.

Posted by: chemtrail at April 27, 2016 01:58 PM (Dwehj)

822 Did Ted win a single delegate yesterday?

Posted by: Valiant at April 27, 2016 01:58 PM (3MiF8)

823 That was not my observation.
http://6abc.com/politics/voter-turnout-appears-heavier-than-usual-in-pa/1309608/

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack What Dispenses Internet Justice at April 27, 2016 01:49 PM (F6RKd
---------------------------------

Who are you and why are you talking to me?

Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 01:58 PM (LISuA)

824 is to lead to children being made victims of sex trafficking.

And cutting into Thai airline revenue.

Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2016 01:58 PM (DL2i+)

825 I voted for Cruz in my state's primary. I don't like Trump at all.

But it looks like he will be the nominee. And, as much as I dislike him, I hate the Hildabeast with the heat of a thousand ace sharts.

I don't want him to be the candidate, but if he is, I will vote for him.

Yes, he will probably lose big, but I no longer have any faith at all that Cruz would be able to win.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 27, 2016 01:58 PM (u0lmX)

826 I like Cruz - he's not my first pick, but, meh - but every time I hear him getting really enthusiastic about a topic, i feel like there should be someone improvising on a church organ behind him. Dude sounds way too much, in cadence and tone and style, like an aspiring preacher; chiefly, it's the way he seems to run out of air at the end of a sentence setting forth some Important Point, as if the momentous pronouncement surprises even him.

Also, he seems to lack the belly for a war to the knife, knife to the hilt, sort of struggle with his and our enemies.

And the Beck thing bother me not a little.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 27, 2016 01:58 PM (lutOX)

827
I'm trying to chop up dead climber. If one had to die, I'm glad it was that one. It was first to get diseased every year.
Posted by: Carol

Stay away from Mt. Everest!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 01:58 PM (k4M/B)

828 You have nice things that preceed you into a room.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 01:56 PM (1xUj/)

HEY! That's um.

Fine.

Fiiiiiiinnnnneeeeee be all factual and whatnot.

So. Mean.

Also you misspelled precede.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 01:58 PM (mf5HN)

829 >>We don't get nice things.

Posted by: alexthechick

We have you.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2016 01:58 PM (etV2e)

830
Posted by: Testy Stoic Trumpublican at April 27, 2016 01:48 PM (AhiRu)

Sure, I'll spell it out--you're almost smart enough to grasp something outside your bubble.

Demagoguery against current power he supported previously? Check. Supported Obama overtly in '08, and likely covertly in '12.

Enlists opponents of existing power? Check. Runs as a Republican even though he's really a Bloomberg progressive.

Appeals to fears of common man instead of principles? Check. See any campaign speech of his.

Promises to use unilateral executive power to fix things, by only for good, swearsies? Check. See wall without Congressional approval, giving nukes to Japan and Korea, etc.

Lies, lies, and more lies about his opponents? Check.

Get the comparison now?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 27, 2016 01:58 PM (BOYu0)

831 Chris Christie will post from the next Bruuuce concert--
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From Europe?

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:59 PM (NUqwG)

832
Trump's "foreign policy speech" was just another pile of shit, the same meaningless platitudes he always spews from his ignorant cakehole. There's nothing there worth paying attention to.

The guy can hardly put two sentences together.....But He's gonna make America greaaaaaat again! Yuuuuuge I tell Ya....

Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 01:59 PM (O2RFr)

833 I really liked the themes in it. American first, nationalism, explicit rejection of knee jerk globalism, exercise of sovereignty, change NATO mission, a whole new foreign policy

Sounds like he's at least at the moment moving more toward the presidential approach rather than 'wing it and insult people who make you angry' one for the Primaries. Who knows, Trump might shape up being more professional and smarter about this than he has shown so far.

I don't have much hope for it, but this has been a pretty unpredictable race so far.

All I know is: yesterday don't matter in today's news and media market. All that matters is what you show people today.

Posted by: Dark GOPe at April 27, 2016 02:00 PM (39g3+)

834 Did Ted win a single delegate yesterday?
Posted by: Valiant at April 27, 2016 01:58 PM (3MiF

Yes

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 02:00 PM (xuouz)

835 There are some 30 year old "minors" walking across the border and now sitting in high school classrooms.
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What percentage of the illegal "children" population constituted those 30 years or older?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:23 PM (dpnZC)

Don't care. It's observed, the system incentivizes it, it's wrong, and you want to focus on the kids and the feelz instead of the very real abuses and the long term impact.

You root for the illegals against the interests of your own country.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 02:00 PM (uURQL)

836 Carly is the obvious choice.
I hope Pence endorsement is also announced.
In a week, we will know if Cruz is still a viable candidate.

Posted by: Matthew at April 27, 2016 02:01 PM (7pEow)

837 Over time, our culture of life in this country has started sliding
toward a culture of death. Perhaps the most significant piece of
evidence to support this assertion is that since Roe v. Wade was decided
by the Supreme Count 43 years ago over 50 million Americans never had
the chance to enjoy the opportunities offered by this country. They
never had the chance to become doctors, musicians, farmers, teachers,
husbands, fathers, sons or daughters. They never had the chance to
enrich the culture of this nation or to bring their skills, lives, loves
or passions into the fabric of country. They are missing, and they are
missed.

>>>>

Still no guess on the author?

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 02:01 PM (Bbsg+)

838 where be that gender cat of the day in the sidebar????

Posted by: lindafell de spair at April 27, 2016 02:01 PM (xVgrA)

839 and when I'm in violation of the law, I readily accept the punishment as defined by law.

I have never even seen the Ontario Fish + Wildlife officers.

Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2016 02:02 PM (DL2i+)

840
Did Ted win a single delegate yesterday?
============

In a column today, Fred Barnes quoted a Fox analyst who said that Trump won every county in all five states yesterday.

Posted by: mrp at April 27, 2016 02:02 PM (JBggj)

841 We don't get nice things.

Posted by: alexthechick

We have you.
Posted by: garrett

Dammit garrett! Way to win the thread.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 02:02 PM (Jcvz2)

842 In a week, we will know if Cruz is still a viable candidate.
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But does pliable trump viable?

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 02:02 PM (NUqwG)

843 I know for a fact that you know what analogies are. That you are doing the wide eyed OMFG KIDS AREN'T CATS thing is pathetic.

AtC, it was more than that, c'mon. You were comparing the instinctual reaction of cats to find food, to human beings making judgments beyond mere instinct. And yes, that is a little bit offensive IMO. You are saying that the judgments of these people are no better than the instinctual reactions of animals.

You don't even have an argument here. It's nothing but sheer and utter appeals to emotion.

Not really. It is an appeal to human dignity. That is why we have the whole concept of individual rights to begin with. It is out of respect for the dignity of each individual human being. I'm NOT saying that these children should stay here forever, should get amnesty, should get free education, none of that. I am arguing that IF they show up, they should be treated with some common human decency. That is all.

And no I am NOT saying that they have a "right" to be here. They don't.

You are refusing to address the point that your position leads
directly and explicitly to those 13 year olds being subjected to all
kinds of human trafficking, including sex trafficking, on their way
here. You don't think those coyotes are treating them with kid gloves,
do you?

Where did I endorse human trafficking? See below for more on human trafficking.

Let's not even mention that for all your wailing about compassion,
you are just fine with a gun being placed to my temple to pay for their
care.

For purposes of law enforcement? Yes, that is what the government should do. For purposes of providing some minimal amount of care while they are here temporarily? Yes I am fine with the government doing that. For letting them stay forever? No I don't want the government to do that. Is that clear enough?

You are also point blank refusing to address the repeated factually
true statements made by many here that those "kids" are anything but
kids.

Two people have made claims, not backed up by any substantiation, that the children are anything other than children. RM claimed that they were really 30-year-old adults, with no citation. MooMoo claimed that they were actually MS-17 gang members, with no citation. I would honestly like to know what percentage of these children are something other than what they straightforwardly appear to be - desperate children. I don't doubt that there are some bad actors in the mix, but I don't believe that they constitute anything nearing a majority. Now if you or anyone else have evidence to the contrary I would love to see it. But so far all I have seen are naked claims.

I'm sorry, but for the children isn't an argument. It's an
anti-intellectual attempt at emotional manipulation that I have long
found to be a hallmark that the person making such a statement has no
coherent argumentation to make for their position.

It isn't really about "for the children". Honestly I would argue the same about any illegal who is caught in this country, children or not. They should all be treated with some minimal basic human decency and dignity.

But but but Golden Rule is irrelevant when we are talking official
government positions and actions.

Not really. Our moral views should inform how we wish the government to operate. No I don't want the government to be run like the Bible. But if we believe that people should be treated humanely in our daily lives, why would we not want our government doing the same?

Treating those who arrive here
illegally with care and compassion and indices that they are welcome
here has a blatantly obvious outcome that those who are treated in such a
manner are, in fact, welcome which leads to more people coming here.

Perhaps this is the source of the disconnect. I see a difference between "[t]reating those who arrive here
illegally with care and compassion" and an indication that "they are welcome
here". They aren't welcome here. But they are also human beings who should be treated decently. I think it's patently absurd that giving kids soccer balls is any sort of strong incentive to get kids to arrive here.

This is basic stuff.

You can flail away that you're being the compassionate one. I'm
going to continue to sit here and note that the practical effect of your
position is to lead to children being made victims of sex trafficking.

But, hey, compassion, right?

Well this gets to the whole cause-effect dilemma. Does a generous US welfare system *cause* human trafficking? I think it provides a certain incentive for human trafficking, but I would not label the US welfare state as a *cause* of it. The government should minimize such incentives by not having such a generous welfare system that can attract illegals to come here. I have favored that for a long time. But the cause of why people would engage in the despicable act of human trafficking lies with the individuals themselves.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:03 PM (dpnZC)

844 The Fat Man farts way too much on stage for any possibility of a duet.

Posted by: Bruce Stringbean at April 27, 2016 02:03 PM (Dwehj)

845 >>where be that gender cat of the day in the sidebar????

I know, right? We need emergency kitteh cuteness.

To tide you over: guess the gender of the baby huey-like heckler that was harassing Steven Crowder (link in sidebar).

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 02:03 PM (NOIQH)

846 Protect our country from whom? 13-year-old children?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:25 PM (dpnZC)

30 year old illiterate 3rd worlders being placed into co-ed American classrooms.

And the whole national sovereignty thing.

You don't deserve this country.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 02:03 PM (uURQL)

847

BOOM! NORTH CAROLINA GOVERNOR EXPOSES PETITION FRAUD FROM HB2 ACTIVISTS

go look at the pict

http://bit.ly/1SBmhwJ

My office released a photo of the petitions delivered by HB2 activists today.

Contrary to the media reports, the professional activists only delivered enough petitions to fill two boxes and the stack on the right shows the signatures collected from out-of-state.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 02:04 PM (qCMvj)

848 I'm trying to chop up dead climber. If one had to die, I'm glad it was that one. It was first to get diseased every year.---------Carol

Chipper/shredder worked pretty good on one in Fargo.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 27, 2016 02:04 PM (m3iiU)

849 The Fat Man farts way too much on stage for any possibility of a duet.

We can duet any time!

Posted by: Le P�tomane at April 27, 2016 02:04 PM (39g3+)

850 >>Still no guess on the author?

Easy.
Dusty Bottoms' Speech to the Villagers of Santo Poco.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2016 02:04 PM (etV2e)

851 "Did Ted win a single delegate yesterday?"

3 in proportional RI, where Kasich got 5.

Trump won nearly every county in all five states yesterday, across all demographics. If you say, well they're not real Republicans, then, they're a proxy for Independents across the country.

Cruz is not a national candidate, and he proves it week by week. He won't get the money backing ihim ever again like this cycle. He'll just be a crank in the Senate.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 02:05 PM (r1fLd)

852 30 year old illiterate 3rd worlders being placed into co-ed American classrooms.

Who can now use the restroom with your sixth grade daughter.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 02:05 PM (Jcvz2)

853 "To tide you over: guess the gender of the baby huey-like heckler that was harassing Steven Crowder (link in sidebar)."

How 'bout the species instead.

The rare flop sweated moose knuckle

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2016 02:05 PM (ptqRm)

854 Not really. Our moral views should inform how we wish the government to operate. No I don't want the government to be run like the Bible. But if we believe that people should be treated humanely in our daily lives, why would we not want our government doing the same?

Let's drill down a little, shall we?

A crook breaks into my house. I'm legally empowered to shoot him dead. Is that a Golden Rule violation?

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 27, 2016 02:05 PM (PFy0L)

855 >>>Trump's "foreign policy speech" was just another
pile of shit, the same meaningless platitudes he always spews from his
ignorant cakehole. There's nothing there worth paying attention to.

The guy can hardly put two sentences together.....But He's gonna make America greaaaaaat again! Yuuuuuge I tell Ya....

Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 01:59 PM (O2RFr)<<<

The majority that he read was boilerplate. You can tell he's just reading what someone put in front of him, and he's not very familiar with it.

It got weird when he went off script (typical for him). Kept calling 9/11 a "catastrophe". Uh... not the word I'd use. It was mass murder, a brutal attack, an viscous assault, a violation even. But catastrophe?! That sounds like a large tree fell on the buildings, knocking them over leading to some people getting killed. Weird.

Then there was an ad lib about weapons being the most dangerous thing spreading around the world. Something like that. Strange.

Posted by: SMOD/Orbital Nukes 2016! -- The only way to be sure at April 27, 2016 02:06 PM (H9MG5)

856 Please see >699

Who fits the bill?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 02:06 PM (xuouz)

857 "Cruz chooses Fiorina to be his VP!"

See, I told you it could work.

Posted by: Cart to the Horse at April 27, 2016 02:06 PM (M0YXY)

858
Dusty Bottoms' Speech to the Villagers of Santo Poco.

"Sew, old woman. Sew like the wind!"

Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 02:06 PM (Bbsg+)

859 We don't get nice things.

Here -
http://cheezburger.com/8773503488

Not for the ewok
http://cheezburger.com/8773303296

Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2016 02:06 PM (DL2i+)

860

O'Keefe has a new piece out over at therightscoop too

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 02:07 PM (qCMvj)

861 Ya, I think Chris Christie and Sarah Palin are going to mud wrestle for that. Sad!

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:46 PM (mcm0N)

I really like the cut of your jib and would love to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: Chris Christie at April 27, 2016 02:07 PM (8aOqE)

862 I am shocked (shocked!) to hear that NeverTrumpers hated his foreign policy speech today.

Get Ben Shapiro on the line!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 02:07 PM (xuouz)

863 This is why you have no business trying to lead a conservative movement, or being the driving force behind its ideas.
You fall for the Left's propaganda willingly.
--------------------
And you fall for blowhard talk show hosts who are selling a narrative instead of thinking critically about the issue for yourself.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 01:26 PM (dpnZC)

Do tell me what talk show hosts I'm parroting. When I don't listen to any.

You've falsely accused me of not thinking about the issue. You're a liar. I only deal with your ideas as you present them. You lie about who I am and what I do to make yourself look better.

That's why conservativism failed. Emotional feelgoodism is more important than Truth.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 02:07 PM (uURQL)

864 We have you.
Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2016 01:58 PM (etV2e)

Now that right there is quality sucking up.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 02:07 PM (mf5HN)

865 Don't care. It's observed, the system incentivizes
it, it's wrong, and you want to focus on the kids and the feelz instead
of the very real abuses and the long term impact.

You root for the illegals against the interests of your own country.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 02:00 PM (uURQL)
I see. So one person out of a million illegal kids might be a 30-year-old, and that is the only pretext you need in order to denounce them all as some sort of invading army?
Mark Levin told you that they were full of 30-year-olds, so that is enough proof for you?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:08 PM (dpnZC)

866 The guy can hardly put two sentences together.....But He's gonna make America greaaaaaat again! Yuuuuuge I tell Ya....
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 01:59 PM (O2RFr)

John Bolton was just on Fox. Impressed with Trump's speech.
I guess Bolton is now on everyone's doesn't know what he's talking about list.
Whalid ..., who is one of Trump's foreign policy advisors, stated that Trump's position on NATO is not only correct, but that NATO member nations have been talking for years about how to rebalance the obligations of member nations in NATO, which is one of Trump's objectives for it. He stated that in the speech.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 02:08 PM (6YRzC)

867 Well if Trump wants to win the general He's gonna need the Womens vote, and He's pretty much alienated the entire Sex.... Good luck with that....

Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 02:08 PM (O2RFr)

868 MS-13 among unaccompanied minors:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ow9b2jh

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 02:08 PM (NOIQH)

869 "Now that right there is quality sucking up."

My ears popped, just by reading it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 27, 2016 02:08 PM (ptqRm)

870 It'll be a used thread.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 01:53 PM (Jcvz2)
***
Dead Man's Pants, to quote one of my favorite radio cranks.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 27, 2016 02:09 PM (lutOX)

871 Let's drill down a little, shall we?

Its a common fallacy, usually appealed to by children, that the golden rule means people should never be punished or experience something they do not like.

Do unto others as you would have them to unto you, dad, you can't spank me!

Except the golden rule presumes a standard of love and wisdom taught by the rest of the Bible rather than negating or replacing it all. Punishing someone for doing wrong might be unpleasant and something you'd rather not experience, but its loving to do so an unloving to let them escape consequences for wrongdoing.

Sending kids back to their homes without new toys is not unloving or a violation of the golden rule, obviously. Only someone backed into a corner and determined to never back down would ever even remotely suggest such a thing.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 02:09 PM (39g3+)

872 Nood.

Posted by: johnd01 at April 27, 2016 02:09 PM (ukNFU)

873 Human trafficking.

The groups of girls are brought in to be prostitutes. You understand that right? They ain't dreaming, or college material.

They are child hookers. And it is a big side business for the criminal culture of Mexico which they import to the US. It is stunningly clear you do not live near a border. In addition to child pristitutes, gangs are running across the border.

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 02:10 PM (zOTsN)

874
Still no guess on the author?
Posted by: Mortimer

Trump

http://tinyurl.com/ja8ca7j

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 02:10 PM (k4M/B)

875 Well if Trump wants to win the general He's gonna need the Womens vote, and He's pretty much alienated the entire Sex.... Good luck with that....

I dunno entire sex, but its going to be an uphill battle with quite a few at least. I bet you know at least one woman who'll be voting for him.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 02:10 PM (39g3+)

876 >>Now that right there is quality sucking up.

I'm still gunning for a spot on the Pleasure Corps.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2016 02:10 PM (etV2e)

877 >>Still no guess on the author

I know who it is

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 02:11 PM (nbrY/)

878 Let them all in, I say! Just find me a good spot to shelter in place until the carnage subsides a bit.

Posted by: chemtrail at April 27, 2016 02:11 PM (Dwehj)

879 The majority that he read was boilerplate. You can tell he's just reading what someone put in front of him, and he's not very familiar with it.

--

Aside from his vast business experience, there is a lot he seems not too familiar with. During the $20 bill and Harriet Tubman news last week, I halfway expected him to wonder why we'd put the lady from the maple syrup bottle on the currency.

In all fairness though, he's a Mensa member compared to Hank Johnson, Sheila Jackson Lee and many others already elected.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at April 27, 2016 02:11 PM (+FSld)

880 To tide you over: guess the gender of the baby huey-like heckler that was harassing Steven Crowder (link in sidebar).

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 02:03 PM (NOIQH)

Baby Huey was cute. The beast howling and flapping xer wings at Crowder made my eyes and ears bleed.

Not just because of the extreme obesity. (I'm not a toothpick myself although I am compared to xer.) It's that the creature has deliberately uglified xerself as much as one can without actually cutting off xer nose like that dragon thing did. Awful hair, surly, hateful expression - it's basically spitting in the face of not just Crowder, Milo and Hoff Summers but giving a f you at everyone who has to look at it.

That pitiful thing hates the universe and wants us all to pay.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 27, 2016 02:11 PM (u0lmX)

881 SJWs get schooled in the nood

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 02:11 PM (xuouz)

882 >>Ya, I think Chris Christie and Sarah Palin are going to mud wrestle for that. Sad!

Posted by: It's probably only limping to California at April 27, 2016 01:46 PM (mcm0N)

Can we substitute pudding for the mud?

Posted by: Chris Christie at April 27, 2016 02:11 PM (c7vUv)

883 Who can now use the restroom with your sixth grade daughter.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 02:05 PM (Jcvz2)

Hey man, be humane.

Any foreigner who doesn't like his current situation deserves to walk into America.

Us Americans can suck it and subsidize it.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 02:11 PM (uURQL)

884 845

To tide you over: guess the gender of the baby huey-like heckler that was harassing Steven Crowder (link in sidebar).
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 02:03 PM (NOIQH)

I watched that video and thought "What the fuck is that? Seriously, what the fuck is that thing?"

It's appearance was so baffling and it's speech so unintelligable (was that even English?) I missed whatever it was Sommers was trying to say.

Really, Dude? What the fuck is that?

Posted by: Drill Thrawl at April 27, 2016 02:12 PM (Jybbt)

885 Maybe it is time to change the name to None Uffda Above and get on the ballot. Might score some Electoral Votes and totally screw up this election.

Looking for a VP. Since I need assassination protection, you will need to assume the last name Hisler.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 27, 2016 02:12 PM (FtrY1)

886
That's why conservativism failed. Emotional feelgoodism is more important than Truth.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 02:07 PM (uURQL)
What "Truth"? That the waves of illegal kids are really 30-year-olds? You are the one who doesn't even care what proportion are 30-year-olds or not.

You and your fellow nationalist travelers are the ones engaging in rank emotionalism, by relying on your ignorant fear of illegals to replace moral discernment with blind wrath against anyone who looks different.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:12 PM (dpnZC)

887 Its a common fallacy, usually appealed to by children, that the golden rule means people should never be punished or experience something they do not like.

It's not only a fallacy, but an insult.

And while it may have some utility to govern civil interpersonal relationships, it's a pretty stupid justification for government policy.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 27, 2016 02:12 PM (PFy0L)

888 Isn't this something Cruz should have done earlier?

Seems a bit odd that now that Trump has a clear path to the nomination that Cruz would do this.

Timing is bizarre IMHO.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 27, 2016 02:13 PM (AHDxb)

889 >>>John Bolton was just on Fox. Impressed with Trump's speech.

I guess Bolton is now on everyone's doesn't know what he's talking about list.

Whalid ..., who is one of Trump's foreign policy advisors, stated
that Trump's position on NATO is not only correct, but that NATO member
nations have been talking for years about how to rebalance the
obligations of member nations in NATO, which is one of Trump's
objectives for it. He stated that in the speech.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 02:08 PM (6YRzC)<<<

Yeah. The 'Stache didn't think it was too bad either. Liked the critique of SCOAMF/Cankles failed foreign policies. Liked the brief mention given to bringing back or maybe ramping up(?) missile defense again. But again say that it was a prepared speech and he was largely playing Peanut to the Jeff Dunhams that wrote it.
It's when Donald is being Donald that things get more... interesting.

Posted by: SMOD/Orbital Nukes 2016! -- The only way to be sure at April 27, 2016 02:13 PM (H9MG5)

890 You root for the illegals against the interests of your own country.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 02:00 PM (uURQL)

It's more customers for his job at the university. Notice though that chemjeff always switches gears like this to demand answers to minutiae when he can't win an argument. The argument is that a lot of the "kids" aren't kids but late age teenagers and older with a high percentage of gang bangers. But, he can't address that and instead demands how many 30 year olds. It's desperation.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at April 27, 2016 02:13 PM (n2GmV)

891 I see. So one person out of a million illegal kids might be a 30-year-old, and that is the only pretext you need in order to denounce them all as some sort of invading army?
Mark Levin told you that they were full of 30-year-olds, so that is enough proof for you?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:08 PM (dpnZC)

You root for illegals against the interests of Americans. You're unAmerican, chemjeff.

So the only question I have left is if you're shaming your ancestors, or if you're a 1st/2nd-generation implant.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 02:14 PM (uURQL)

892 Someone does need to teach Trump how to read Tanzania properly

Tan-Za-Ne-A

Not

Tan-Zane-E-A

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 02:15 PM (zOTsN)

893 Chem Jeff the overwhelming number of illegals are not like students in your class. You do not know what you are talking about

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 02:16 PM (zOTsN)

894
relying on your ignorant fear of illegals to replace moral discernment with blind wrath against anyone who looks different.

How Sharptonesque!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 02:16 PM (k4M/B)

895 What "Truth"? That the waves of illegal kids are really 30-year-olds? You are the one who doesn't even care what proportion are 30-year-olds or not.

You lied about me to me. I don't listen to talk show hosts, liar.

How stupid do you have to be to make absurd and trivially disprovable claims?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 02:17 PM (uURQL)

896 chemjeff, you are sounding like Obama ridiculing conservatives for being afraid of "widows and orphans" if they oppose Muslim immigration.

It's a cheap, dishonest smear when Obama does it and I'm sorry you've sunk that low.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 27, 2016 02:17 PM (u0lmX)

897 You and your fellow nationalist travelers are the ones engaging in rank emotionalism, by relying on your ignorant fear of illegals to replace moral discernment with blind wrath against anyone who looks different.

You toss out "nationalist" like it's an insult. I don't think Americans should apologize for believing that borders should be secured, and in fact quite a few are tired of being called racist (however obliquely, as you do) for having a supported, rational opinion on the matter. Hence Trump.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 27, 2016 02:17 PM (PFy0L)

898 893
Chem Jeff the overwhelming number of illegals are not like students in your class. You do not know what you are talking about

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 02:16 PM (zOTsN)

He rarely does. He's a classic university bleeding-heart liberal. Ignore him.

Posted by: Sixkiller at April 27, 2016 02:17 PM (pcyHg)

899 You and your fellow nationalist travelers are the ones engaging in rank emotionalism, by relying on your ignorant fear of illegals to replace moral discernment with blind wrath against anyone who looks different.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:12 PM (dpnZC)

And now chemjeff's true beliefs shine through. We're just racist rubes against the joys of immigration.

Our moral discernment is that we didn't ask them here (nationalism), that it's illegal for them to be here (rule of law), and that ignoring that causes more suffering than if they knew without a doubt they would not be welcomed (moral reasoning).

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at April 27, 2016 02:18 PM (n2GmV)

900 You root for illegals against the interests of Americans. You're unAmerican, chemjeff.

Oh good, you played the traitor card. I was wondering when that would happen.

I'm not rooting for illegals or against illegals per se. I'm rooting for the common decency and humanity of *every single human being*. Every human being is a person with individual dignity whether they are illegal or not. THAT is what it means to be American.

I'm not going to call you a traitor as you called me, I will simply acknowledge that you have a different conception of what it means to be an American. I'm willing to respect that, too bad you cannot do the same.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:18 PM (dpnZC)

901 Every human being is a person with individual dignity whether they are illegal or not. THAT is what it means to be American.

And it also means that people have agency and must accept the consequences of their actions, for good or for ill.

Even illegal aliens.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 27, 2016 02:20 PM (eytER)

902 Well if Trump wants to win the general He's gonna
need the Womens vote, and He's pretty much alienated the entire Sex....
Good luck with that....

Posted by: at April 27, 2016 02:08 PM (O2RFr)

How did he do that, binders full of women? He let a tranny follow you into the bathroom at Target?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 27, 2016 02:20 PM (T78UI)

903 You toss out "nationalist" like it's an insult.

Wanting to secure the border is not nationalist per se.

Wanting to create Fortress America and keep out all the foreigners, is what constitutes the nationalism.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:20 PM (dpnZC)

904 Aside from his vast business experience, there
is a lot he seems not too familiar with.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at April 27, 2016 02:11 PM (+FSld)

Aside from inheriting a fortune and leveraging his celebrity to get people to pay him money to put his name on shit, his "vast business experience" seems to be a big steaming pile of bribery, bankruptcy, fraud, vig-skimming, charlatanism, cronyism, and failure.

Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 27, 2016 02:21 PM (ztrrs)

905 If you're not nationalistic then you are not patriotic.
Patria = nation

Posted by: @votermom at April 27, 2016 02:22 PM (nbrY/)

906 I like it alot, now I have to go up thread to find why someone throws the Anti American card at Chemjeff

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 02:22 PM (8BJMp)

907 chemjeff, apparently there's a nood thus I am not ignoring your points so much as giving up this conversation as willow'd.

I will just say this. That you have elected, of your own free will, to take the COMPLETELY MOTHERFUCKING OBVIOUS analogy that if you leave out help for a being, that being will consider you an easy mark from which you will never be free and turn it into some type of Church Lady I am offended that you think they are like animals tells me all I need to know about your willingness to argue in good faith on this issue.

A word of advice. I've been reading your comments on this matter for a number of months. To say that you have revealed a very ugly side would be putting it mildly. You refuse to credit those who take an opposing view as acting in good faith. Well. Do not be surprised if I and others decide to treat your statements in such a manner.

You've made your statements. I've made mine. You are demonstrably unwilling to listen to alternate views combined with an ever so lovely pastiche of moral highhandedness and outright derision. So be it. I wish you well in bringing others to your position given such tactics.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 02:23 PM (mf5HN)

908
You root for illegals against the interests of Americans. You're unAmerican, chemjeff.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh good, you played the traitor card. I was wondering when that would happen.

He did not use the word "traitor." You did.
There's a lot of space between unamerican and traitor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 02:24 PM (k4M/B)

909 Wanting to secure the border is not nationalist per se.

Wanting to create Fortress America and keep out all the foreigners, is what constitutes the nationalism.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:20 PM (dpnZC)

Bull, you are just redefining the term because you stepped in it again. And if we wanted to stop all immigration that is immoral why? I wouldn't assume you are an evil person if you didn't want anyone in your house.

Axiom: No one has the right to enter another country without the permission of that country.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at April 27, 2016 02:25 PM (n2GmV)

910 And now chemjeff's true beliefs shine through. We're just racist rubes against the joys of immigration.

I believe many of the anti-immigration arguments come with racist assumptions, whether examined or un-examined. I don't think that necessarily makes the arguer a racist, but I do think it behooves those who make those arguments to be able to defend them on non-racist terms.

For instance, one of the arguments against *legal* immigration, that I often see presented here, is that if we allow more Latin Americans to immigrate here, that they will vote for Democrats and turn the US into a socialist hellhole. This argument carries with it an assumption that there is something intrinsic between a person's ideology and a person's heritage in some way. Last I checked, ideology isn't genetic, so I don't particularly find this argument persuasive.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:26 PM (dpnZC)

911 I'm not going to call you a traitor as you called me, I will simply acknowledge that you have a different conception of what it means to be an American. I'm willing to respect that, too bad you cannot do the same.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:18 PM (dpnZC)

chemjeff's idea of "respect" is to build strawmans and lie.

That's not respect, chemjeff.

Note that I didn't call him a traitor, I called him un-American.

You know who else is unAmerican? British. Chinese. Russians. They're not traitors. But they're not American.

But chemjeff, if you feel like a traitor ... maybe you should rethink arguing against American interests.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 02:26 PM (uURQL)

912 One of the things that puzzles me about the Trump candidacy is the extreme emotions engendered both for and against him.

I do not think that Trump will be a particularly good President if elected and for that matter I don't expect he will do all that well as a candidate, even against Hillary Clinton with her enormous negatives.

Nonetheless, I voted for John McCain in 2008 and he was at least as bad. We got to see how bad McCain was as a candidate and, given his pledge to conduct a "Wilsonian" foreign policy I am confident that he would have been a bad President.

The thing is that the alternative to McCain in 2008 was much worse as we have learned to our sorrow. The Democrats are guaranteed to run a much worse alternative this year.

If there were any place else to go on earth or if secession were a practical possibility, the #nevertrump sentiment might have more appeal. The thing is that adults have to make decisions from among the alternatives that exist, not from among the alternatives that wish existed.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 27, 2016 02:27 PM (BDB07)

913 third huge: first was the erection and pointing of http://ricktempest.com to carly for president

we at ricktempest.com may point back to Carly in honor of this huge honor after the official announcement your honors

Posted by: t3h troll at April 27, 2016 02:27 PM (0+srV)

914 Nationalist is not a dirty word or a corrupt idea or an insult Chem Jeff. It's how the world works. Like saying "job" or "home" is an insult

Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 02:27 PM (zOTsN)

915 >>>Wanting to create Fortress America and keep out all the foreigners, is what constitutes the nationalism.

That would constitute sanity, actually.

Posted by: Max Power at April 27, 2016 02:27 PM (q177U)

916 You refuse to credit those who take an opposing view as acting in good faith.

I honestly don't understand how you can write that.

I believe you are acting in good faith based on what you believe is most appropriate for you. I simply don't believe it is the most appropriate course of action overall.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:29 PM (dpnZC)

917 And if we wanted to stop all immigration that is immoral why?

It depends on why you wanted to stop all immigration.

If you wanted to stop all immigration because you believed there was no rational need for any more immigration, then lay out those arguments.

If you wanted to stop all immigration because you didn't want any more of those dirty brown people here, then I would call that a little bit racist, yes.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:31 PM (dpnZC)

918 chemjeff what is the empirical evidence for the hypothesis that latinos favor socialism and that i am a sexual god?

Posted by: t3h troll at April 27, 2016 02:32 PM (0+srV)

919 Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 02:26 PM (uURQL)

Oh bullshit RM. You knew exactly what you were doing.

The unAmerican bit is wanting to sacrifice the wisdom of the Enlightenment for the bloviatings of rank demagogues, such as people like Trump, people like talk show hosts, people like Vox Day, and the like.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:32 PM (dpnZC)

920 Thank you for your feedback. Your opinion is highly valued. Have a blessed day.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 01:24 PM (NUqwG)

Back at ya!

Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 02:32 PM (aRUb8)

921 an eye opener for me was looking into emigrating. shes a very difficult

Posted by: t3h troll at April 27, 2016 02:34 PM (0+srV)

922 >>>92 If he wanted to maximize his options he would say, "It's time to put aside our differences and support the GOP nominee. That Nominee is Donal Trump. The big difference between Donal Trump and Hillary Clinton is that Donal Trump loves this great nation and will not give it away to undocumented invaders."
Posted by: huh? at April 27, 2016 11:46 AM (Bbcs

Unfortunately, that is the only difference between Trump and Clinton.

Posted by: Kevin DuBrow at April 27, 2016 02:34 PM (bMcUX)

923
Well if Trump wants to win the general He's gonna need the Womens vote, and He's pretty much alienated the entire Sex.... Good luck with that....

Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 02:08 PM (O2RFr)
__________________

I'm gonna' vote for Trump. I'm afraid not too....

~sniff-sniff~

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 02:36 PM (HSmrB)

924 If you wanted to stop all immigration because you
believed there was no rational need for any more immigration, then lay
out those arguments.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:31 PM (dpnZC)

There is no need for more immigration at this time. This is self evident. There is even less of a need for an influx of criminal aliens.
If you disagree and feel there IS a need for either, then lay out those arguments.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 02:37 PM (aRUb8)

925 "...your ignorant fear of illegals..."

Ahem...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y39uvy4

Posted by: Murder Victims of Illegals at April 27, 2016 02:38 PM (uhftQ)

926 There is no need for more immigration at this time. This is self evident.

I disagree, it is not self-evident.

If you disagree and feel there IS a need for either, then lay out those arguments.

Because there are certain jobs that Americans can't or won't do.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:39 PM (dpnZC)

927 925
"...your ignorant fear of illegals..."

Ahem...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y39uvy4

Posted by: Murder Victims of Illegals at April 27, 2016 02:38 PM (uhftQ)
And the illegals who are violent murderers, they constitute what proportion of the overall illegal population? Does it even matter to you? And yet *I* am the one accused of putting emotionalism over reason.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:40 PM (dpnZC)

928
Because there are certain jobs that Americans can't or won't do.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:39 PM (dpnZC)
___________________________

Do these certain jobs require two arms/hands? Asking for a friend...

~sniff-sniff~

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 02:40 PM (HSmrB)

929 The women are not a problem.None! I am great with women. The best!

Posted by: Almost a large. at April 27, 2016 02:41 PM (0+srV)

930 765 Turnout was down (like half of) in Ct, NY, Md, De and Pa from past primaries this cycle.

So, I guess you. fail.

or something.
Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 01:47 PM (LISuA)
That was not my observation.
http://6abc.com/politics/voter-turnout-appears-heavier-than-usual-in-pa/1309608/
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack What Dispenses Internet Justice at April 27, 2016 01:49 PM (F6RKd)

It was the longest line I've ever seen in my polling place. The previous record was the 2008 general election.

Posted by: rickl at April 27, 2016 02:41 PM (zoehZ)

931 but chemjeff you ignore labor dhortages on wages when you say that.

Posted by: Almost a large. at April 27, 2016 02:43 PM (0+srV)

932 For instance, one of the arguments against *legal*
immigration, that I often see presented here, is that if we allow more
Latin Americans to immigrate here, that they will vote for Democrats and
turn the US into a socialist hellhole. This argument carries with it an
assumption that there is something intrinsic between a person's
ideology and a person's heritage in some way. Last I checked, ideology
isn't genetic, so I don't particularly find this argument persuasive.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:26 PM (dpnZC)
That seems like a vague strawman. Who, exactly has made a strong case against legal and controlled immigration?
Just curious as to where you find this attitude.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 02:43 PM (aRUb8)

933 Bull, you are just redefining the term because you stepped in it again.

No, you seem to mean "nationalism" means nothing more than "securing the borders". Nationalism as an ideology is a broader term than that. It suggests a superiority of one's culture over others. While I do agree that American values in general tend to be more favorable than others, it's not because they have the label American, it's because they are consonant with transcendent human values, derived from Enlightenment thinking about rights and liberties. That's the difference.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:45 PM (dpnZC)

934 I honestly don't understand how you can write that.

Here. Let me quote you:

"I believe many of the anti-immigration arguments come with racist assumptions, whether examined or un-examined. I don't think that necessarily makes the arguer a racist, but I do think it behooves those who make those arguments to be able to defend them on non-racist terms."

Yeah. Yeah. It's a complete mystery for the ages, an utter mystery, a burrito of mysterious mysteries of mysteriousness as to just why it is that I believe you are lying when you say that you don't get why I believe you refuse to credit others with a lack of good faith.

Mystery.

Utter.

Complete.

Total.

See, here's the thing. When you start from oh your beliefs are racist unless I determine that you are defending them on non-racial grounds? That's not good faith. Calling people racists because you don't like their positions is viciously ugly, not to mention intellectually obscene. It's the antinomy of good faith.

I believe you are acting in good faith based on what you believe is most appropriate for you. I simply don't believe it is the most appropriate course of action overall.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:29 PM (dpnZC)

Right after sotto voce calling me a racist. .

Also I cannot help but note the lovely what's most appropriate for you vs. what is most appropriate overall. There is nothing good faith about attempting to use the linguistic trick of your side is all personal whereas my side is about the principle.

Yeah. No. See, you don't get to do this. Here's the thing, I've read more than your responses to me. I've read your responses to others. I've read your comments for months. I've read your responses to others for months.

You are, by your own actions and words, revealing that you are more than willing to buy into the opposition to immigration, legal or illegal, begins from racist motives. Fine. You are more than entitled to do so. But I am more than entitled to judge you by your own words and deeds.

You are not a fair minded and good faith broker of your position. You are not. And you are doing yourself nothing but hurt by continuing these attempts of wide eyed oh but but see I'm not realllly calling you a racist. Yes, yes, you are. I no longer have patience for your attempts to dissimulate on this point.

By all means, continue down this path you are on. Be warned, however, that it may not end at the place you think.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 02:45 PM (mf5HN)

935 Oh bullshit RM. You knew exactly what you were doing.

The unAmerican bit is wanting to sacrifice the wisdom of the Enlightenment for the bloviatings of rank demagogues, such as people like Trump, people like talk show hosts, people like Vox Day, and the like.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:32 PM (dpnZC)

You've lied that I have done no critical thinking.

You've lied that I listen to talk radio to regurgitate their words.

You've lied that I called you a traitor.

You've lied that you respect my position ... while making all of the above lies and retracting none of them.

You're a habitual liar, and you discredit any ideas you touch.

Please, change. Start owning your words, and retract your lies.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 02:45 PM (uURQL)

936 Hello Michelle.

*Shakes a slighly smaller than large fist.*

Posted by: Almost a large. at April 27, 2016 02:45 PM (0+srV)

937 Do they not realize that they have greatly encouraged lying agitators like

chemjeff ......

Can they really not have realize this?

Maybe that's the most important thing to point out.

Posted by: Testy Stoic Trumpublican at April 27, 2016 02:43 PM (AhiRu)

Ummm... The Trumpeter Swan is a lying agitator. How can you not have realized this???

Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 02:45 PM (aRUb8)

938 It was the longest line I've ever seen in my polling place. The previous record was the 2008 general election.

There was no line at all in my CT precinct.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 02:45 PM (1xUj/)

939 682 Cruz never had any hope in CA because while there are still a few people here who will vote for a Republican, there are a very significant subgroup of that bloc who are strongly secularist in outlook and who won't vote for a socon Republican.

And Cruz has now ineradicably identified himself as Churchy McChurchface with those voters. Game over.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 01:31 PM (noWW6)

AGREE. I am in California and will be voting Trump. I don't know ONE person here voting for Cruz, but I do know several democrats who switched parties to vote for TRUMP - here in SoCal.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue at April 27, 2016 02:48 PM (ZXK8H)

940 Since we've entered silly season, I am naming Barbara Bush as my VP!

Posted by: JEB! at April 27, 2016 02:51 PM (GHtJF)

941 And the illegals who are violent murderers, they
constitute what proportion of the overall illegal population? Does it
even matter to you? And yet *I* am the one accused of putting
emotionalism over reason.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:40 PM (dpnZC)

Is that the standard?...murderers? All other criminal activities are acceptable for admittance to the country and society? If not, what other crime would you list to bar entry?
*Personally, I would start at the crime of illegal entry...but thats just me*

Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 02:51 PM (aRUb8)

942 Ye of little faith!

Cruz '16!

"Be still and know that I am the Lord."

(Even though the Orange Obama thinks he is.)

Posted by: RushBabe at April 27, 2016 02:53 PM (OuXal)

943 I will dominate the woman vote. Alex is a chick. Chicks dig me. QED.

Posted by: t3h Donald at April 27, 2016 02:53 PM (0+srV)

944 Hello Michelle.

*Shakes a slighly smaller than large fist.*

Posted by: Almost a large. at April 27, 2016 02:45 PM (0+srV)
_________________________

That was hurtful and now I'm contemplating suing you for defamation....

~sniff-sniff~

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 02:56 PM (HSmrB)

945 Loser picking another loser to lose with.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 27, 2016 02:57 PM (Xo1Rt)

946 Observations about Hastert (doing my Jim Geraghty impersonation)...

- Hastert is loathsome if he did in fact molest those boys. I've always had my suspicions about men who are eager to hang out with teenage boys (especially coming from the Chicago area).
- However, since homosexuals groom adolescent and young men and homosexuality is now mainstream hunky-dory, how will the legal system handle these cases?
- Where does a former government employee and ex-gym teacher come up with the type of money to pay that kind of extortion money?
- If those boys were truly victimized, they should have come forward earlier. Doing so would have prevented others from the same fate. They have suffered due to his reprehensible behavior but at least one still attempted to profit off of it.
- Getting the conviction on banking fraud is an absolute load of Patriot Act bullshit government intrusion.
- This will only get more convoluted under a TrumpClinton presidency.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 02:59 PM (hqZPQ)

947 Keep drinking' "Sippin_bourbon".
I consider you a brain dead jingo with no grasp of reality. The NE ain't what you think.

_____
Jingo?? Really. Had to laugh at that one. Might want to check the definition of that one.

The North East has gone for dems in the last 6 presidential election.

Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 27, 2016 03:00 PM (Gl74b)

948
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 02:45 PM (mf5HN)
Oh for heaven's sake. You are reading way more into what I wrote than what I actually wrote. I am legitimately not calling you a racist. Why would I do that? I have no reason to believe you are a racist, AtC. But at the same time, I am not going to pretend that *every* argument against immigration starts from non-racist motives. It simply isn't true. I'm not going to argue against reality. I, sincerely and in my heart, do not believe any argument that you have presented starts from a racist presumption. But I do not believe that is the same for every single person on the planet.

And in my statement that you quoted, I believe that there are people who are using arguments that sound good, fair, and nonracist, but if you really examine the argument, actually does have a racist assumption underpinning the argument. I have done the same thing myself. I've used arguments that sounds good on their face, but if you really examine them deeply, realize that they are built on flimsy premises. I don't think it makes one a racist to use an argument built on racist premises when those premises go unexamined by the arguer. I do think it makes one a racist to continue to use those arguments when they are exposed to be based on a racist premise. Do you see the difference?
But I honestly and sincerely do not intend to call you a racist, and I do apologize if my poor choice of words led you to that conclusion. You are one of the commenters that I do respect around here and I am troubled if I have inadvertently damaged our friendship, or at least our acquaintanceship, by careless choice of words on my part.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 03:02 PM (dpnZC)

949 Michelle you can defamate in any bathroom you like.

Posted by: t3h Donald at April 27, 2016 03:10 PM (0+srV)

950
Is that the standard?...murderers? All other criminal activities are acceptable for admittance to the country and society?

Nope, never said that.

The problem lies in portraying violent murderers as representative of the entire whole. They are not.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 03:12 PM (dpnZC)

951 But I honestly and sincerely do not intend to call you a racist, and I do apologize if my poor choice of words led you to that conclusion. You are one of the commenters that I do respect around here and I am troubled if I have inadvertently damaged our friendship, or at least our acquaintanceship, by careless choice of words on my part.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 03:02 PM (dpnZC)

Apology accepted.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 03:14 PM (mf5HN)

952 Boy he's an annoying bastard no wonder his Senate colleagues hate him....he just needs to GTFO....Not Happening Ted ......Please just go away....

Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at April 27, 2016 03:16 PM (6WPRH)

953 atc taking the professor's troll bait.

Posted by: chemojello at April 27, 2016 03:17 PM (qQk+U)

954 Man this looks so incredibly desperate.

Posted by: Deno at April 27, 2016 03:18 PM (eAvOZ)

955 Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 03:02 PM (dpnZC)

You've finally been stood up to with no one to protect you.

Give it up, you've been served.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 27, 2016 03:21 PM (Xo1Rt)

956 Chermjeff, you keep moving the goal posts. AtC has you pegged.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 27, 2016 03:24 PM (m3iiU)

957 I can see where it's going to totally help the overly ambitious LyinTed.......to announce the second most annoying person on the planet........ as a running mate for an election that he cannot in any scenario get the nomination for....... let alone win.....yep I can totally see that....NOT

Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (6WPRH)

958 Ted's going to announce his decorating plans for the White House, no doubt.

Posted by: Grinning Lackey at April 27, 2016 03:36 PM (US2GW)

959 From Politico and got to me via a couple of Facebook friends: "Vote Zodiac Killer / Demon Sheep 2016!" In California a Cruz/Fiorina ticket will be substantially viewed as a joke. And California is not a state that a winner can afford to lose in the general.

Posted by: grayishpanther at April 27, 2016 03:39 PM (ty9Ew)

960 Tomorrows Presstitute conference LyinTed announces Jose Cuervo as his Secretary of State....I see where this is going....Kaitlan Jenner for DHS

Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at April 27, 2016 03:41 PM (6WPRH)

961 Nope, never said that.

The problem lies in portraying violent murderers as representative of the entire whole. They are not.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 03:12 PM (dpnZC)
I agree that you never said that, however the implication was that was some kind of standard...at least that would be a plausible conclusion imo.The question remains, though. What would some other crimes..or behaviors..be, that you would find grounds for exclusion?
*I added "behaviors" because things like gang affiliation is not a crime, but it certainly is not what the country would want more of.*

Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 03:54 PM (aRUb8)

962 Just not seeing Fiorina, as awesome as she is, as making any difference. I'm a huge Cruz fan, but nothing about Fiorina is exciting.

If I were Ted, I'd do something radical...pick someone with an established, rabid fan base to counter Trump's violent pack of attack dogs....Ron Paul, maybe...?

Posted by: MmeBovary at April 27, 2016 03:57 PM (GuTgF)

963 You've finally been stood up to with no one to protect you.

Give it up, you've been served.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 27, 2016 03:21 PM (Xo1Rt)

956
Chermjeff, you keep moving the goal posts. AtC has you pegged.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 27, 2016 03:24 PM (m3iiU)
What have I moved? What exactly have I been "served"? It is not my fault that people assign views to me that I do not hold.
I say treat illegals with decency and humanity, and that leads others to conclude that I favor open borders or "letting them all in" or some such nonsense? How am I responsible for that? I say over and over again that I am not in favor of open borders. How much more clear can I make it? I say that SOME anti-immigration arguments are grounded in racism, and then from that others conclude that I am calling everyone a racist, when I am clearly not? What exactly am I supposed to do to combat that? Pretend that everyone who opposes immigration is a pure nonracist when that is not the case?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 04:00 PM (dpnZC)

964 The focus bias Trumpatrons marinate themselves in is really odd.
Cruz can welcome Fiorina and people find it "odd" or "desperate"

Trump can welcome Alex Jones and it's like.. "Hey!...smart move Mr.Trump!"

Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 04:03 PM (aRUb8)

965 I say treat illegals with decency and humanity,

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 04:00 PM (dpnZC)

Can you define those terms and make a case for them being treated indecently or inhumanly?

Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 04:05 PM (aRUb8)

966 To me, this whole thing reeeeeaks of desperation. After his pathetic basketball ring faux pas this morning and his fail last night...

he is against the ropes and he knows it and Trump knows it and we know it.

Cruz needs to stop being big picture now, and focus on one race at a time. He doesn't need to win it all...he just needs to win Indiana. I don't think this wins him Indiana. It doesn't hurt him. But...I don't think he'll get a bump from it.

Bobby Knight will create more of a bump than Fiorina, and that's just all there is to it.

Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (F5hTl)

967 And perhaps some of the change that AtC and others are seeing in me is that given the utter asshattery of this campaign season, I am no longer going to start with a presumption of innocence from those of "my tribe", i.e., the right. Because evidently there are many in "my tribe" on the right who (a) won't do the same for me, and (b) aren't even all that conservative in the first place, preferring instead to fall for a demagogic fraudulent showman like Trump. That doesn't mean I start from a presumption of guilt either, it only means that I no longer feel inclined to assume everyone on the right has similar goals and motivations in mind.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (dpnZC)

968 Side note: Gov Pence is actively trying to lose re-election by not endorsing.

It doesn't matter who you pick.....but at least pick someone! Show guts, show conviction.

Tepid applause at Cruz's announcement.....yeah this should win him Indiana.

Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:15 PM (F5hTl)

969 Because there are certain jobs that Americans can't or won't do.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 02:39 PM (dpnZC)

This sort of anti-Americanism would be indistinguishable from racism if America were a homogeneous nation...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 27, 2016 04:17 PM (T78UI)

970 Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (dpnZC)

Shorter chemjeff, I don't presume innocence or guilt, I presume....moral ambiguity???

Really, it's sad that we have let him down so badly.

BTW, nationalism doesn't necessarily mean national dominance. Switzerland is nationalistic. It doesn't feel the need to invade its neighbor though. You're just throwing every possible negative into your strawman so you can flamethrower it. If not nationalism, then what? Globalism? Libertarian utopia of a borderless country?

Oh nice to apologize to Alex but I guess the rest of us are racist rubes.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (n2GmV)

971 Does Trump have mental health issues or does it just seem like he is mentally ill? Is he shooting to attract the mentally ill demographic??? Maybe it's just me, but that guy is an intellectual splatter fart.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 27, 2016 04:38 PM (aRUb8)

972 Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Maybe you could announce you're getting out of the race and will help defeat Crooked Hillary, you selfish Canadian.

Posted by: Gobbagoo at April 27, 2016 05:23 PM (H7eLj)

973 Cruz to announce he's a big supporter of that ball ring with the net thingies team the Indiana horse trotters or something like that.

Posted by: doug at April 27, 2016 05:57 PM (Y7fRE)

974 972
Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Maybe you could announce you're getting out of the race and will help defeat Crooked Hillary, you selfish Canadian.

Posted by: Gobbagoo at April 27, 2016 05:23 PM (H7eLj)

973
Cruz to announce he's a big supporter of that ball ring with the net thingies team the Indiana horse trotters or something lik

Thats deep man....deep. Dig it.

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